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> 
> 
> 
> >and paganistic heathenism, heritically of course.
> I had no clue gamer geeks could turn out so well...
> the Fist of Thor huh...that could be fun.
> 


off the subject of AD&D a bit, but still on the gaming subject...I have 
a couple questions.

1.) why is this on the list? don't get me wrong, I love RPGs and all, 
but how is this raves related...oh yeah, soozi, suzi...however she 
spells it start this thread...

2.) anyone here play any of the White Wolf games? like Vampire: 
the Masquerade (V:tM) and such...cause I *love* Vampire...that is a 
fun ass game...then again, I role-play for the intrigue in that game 
plus it's fun as all hell...

and to make this thread semi-rave related...

Note: you have to know a bit about V:tM to get this...

I had this Toreador in a game...her art? Dancing, to 'rave' music of 
course =)
it was a fun character, I remember the best part about the character 
was that her specialty in Brawl was Cappoeia <spelling?> (however 
you spell the Brazillian <?> martial art that looks like a person is 
dancing)....I remember one time she got in a fight in a party one 
time, and the humans around thought it was part of the dj's 
show/bit...I rolled great each fight turn, in fact it was the best fight 
scene I ever had with a character...gods, I miss that character...now 
when I go home I'll have to get someone to storytell a V:tM game and 
let me play that character, if I can find her...thx for getting me in the 
mood to play a V:tM game you guys...oh well, I'll listen to some 
Dieselboy, get over the urge and get some much needed sleep...

---
Laterz
---Joe

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-(c) 1998 Joe Garcia
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 08:07:32 1999
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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:55:51 PDT Dan Sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  So, basically, If you are having a shit-ass miserable >day.. Just think of 
>me in my misery and realize that you are not alone...

ack! can't say that my _day_ has been all that miserable per se---but the past week or two have just been shitty.  i dunno if i'd rather have one _REALLY_ bad day every once in a while or have to deal with low-grade shittiness for days at a time.  anyway....i extend humblest sympathies and commiseration to all those getting sodomized by the world today...[hm.  come to think of it getting sodomized by the world wouldn't be all THAT bad at this point...]  

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 08:10:51 1999
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    Yes, I had the wonderful opportunity to see Brittney Spears in concert 
Sat night.  If u must know I went with my younger brother and his two friends 
because they needed a ride and had an extra ticket. Anyways, the point of my 
post is that before and during the concert, there were about 3 or 4 vendors 
selling little 4inch glowsticks with Brittney Spears logo's printed on them.  
So by the time it got dark, there were hundreds of little teeny boppers 
jammin to Brittney tunes (which i might add she only sung about half, the 
other were lip-synched) and jammin with there glowsticks. HA! just thought 
i'd share. And if u saw the Buckeyes play sunday, we meant to lose, We cant 
lose!         
                         Peace and Love   Warren  GO BUCKS!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 08:12:28 1999
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On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:06:52 CDT whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com> wrote:
the only hard part is getting wesley to 
>switch subject matter ...he does tend to get obbessive about sucking animals 
>and all

Wesley willis?  obsessive?  i think there's only one real answer to that allegation:

ROCK AND ROLL MCDONALDS

ROCK AND ROLL MCDONALDS

ROCK AND ROLL MCDONALDS

ROCK AND ROLL MCDONALDS

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 08:26:32 1999
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Subject: [mw] Live BCast Tonight! ANGEL ALANIS~LUIS AGUILERA~DJ GRUVE!
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GENERATE!

     11pm-3am Eastern Time..10pm-2am Central Time..9pm-1am Mountain Time..and 
8pm-12am Pacific Time..

For this special Generate Broadcast...Tune Your Real Audio Players to 

pnm://raveradio.raver.org/generate.ram


DJ GRUVE-Full Spectrum/Contaminated-Chicago 10:00-10:45pm CST
    Gonna break it down for ya House style..this man is about to open a night 
in which will never be forgotten! He'll make ya wanna get out your chair..and 
dance to the house beats he lays down!  The showstopper!

ANGEL ALANIS-Full Spectrum/Contaminated/MCM-Chicago 10:45-11:30pm CST
    There's nothing more to say about this guy than PURE SKILLS. Argueably 
one of the best producers in the USA..this man has done it all..from 
Techno..to Hard House..to Disco House..to Breakbeat..to Jungle..he has 
produced everything. He has traveled around the country and world playing 
event after event..and if you've gotten a chance to see him live..you know 
there is no other. This man deserves and gets maximum respect..for his 
upcoming releases on Contaminated as well as many other labels around the 
globe..he will drop a Techno Set for the Generate Audience ears tonight..so 
make sure you listen..and get educated. 'nuff said.

LUIS AGUILERA-Full Spectrum-Chicago  11:30-12:15am CST
    This man is one of the most underated DJs I've ever had a chance to hear. 
His flawless mixing and superior track selection make him hard to beat..no 
matter what style he chooses to spin. Tonight..for this special broadcast..he 
plans to drop some Happy Hardcore on that ass! Stay glued to your computer 
for this guy..he will shock your ears!


We will be on MIRC on EFNET SERVER channel #mw-raves

**This will be the last Generate Broadcast(for a least a while)..so we're 
happy the people who have listened out there have enjoyed it..look for it 
soon back in effect!!  Thanks again for all the support!! Any 
feedback..please direct it here:
turntablepsycho@hotmail.com**
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 08:36:17 1999
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yes yes, angel alanis (atlantis) baha  gonna rip shit up!   funky ass funky
ass

----- Original Message -----
From: <DJTronic1@aol.com>
Subject: [mw] Live BCast Tonight! ANGEL ALANIS~LUIS AGUILERA~DJ GRUVE!


> GENERATE!
>
>      11pm-3am Eastern Time..10pm-2am Central Time..9pm-1am Mountain
Time..and
> 8pm-12am Pacific Time..
>
> For this special Generate Broadcast...Tune Your Real Audio Players to
>
> pnm://raveradio.raver.org/generate.ram
>
>
> DJ GRUVE-Full Spectrum/Contaminated-Chicago 10:00-10:45pm CST
>     Gonna break it down for ya House style..this man is about to open a
night
> in which will never be forgotten! He'll make ya wanna get out your
chair..and
> dance to the house beats he lays down!  The showstopper!
>
> ANGEL ALANIS-Full Spectrum/Contaminated/MCM-Chicago 10:45-11:30pm CST
>     There's nothing more to say about this guy than PURE SKILLS. Argueably
> one of the best producers in the USA..this man has done it all..from
> Techno..to Hard House..to Disco House..to Breakbeat..to Jungle..he has
> produced everything. He has traveled around the country and world playing
> event after event..and if you've gotten a chance to see him live..you know
> there is no other. This man deserves and gets maximum respect..for his
> upcoming releases on Contaminated as well as many other labels around the
> globe..he will drop a Techno Set for the Generate Audience ears
tonight..so
> make sure you listen..and get educated. 'nuff said.
>
> LUIS AGUILERA-Full Spectrum-Chicago  11:30-12:15am CST
>     This man is one of the most underated DJs I've ever had a chance to
hear.
> His flawless mixing and superior track selection make him hard to beat..no
> matter what style he chooses to spin. Tonight..for this special
broadcast..he
> plans to drop some Happy Hardcore on that ass! Stay glued to your computer
> for this guy..he will shock your ears!
>
>
> We will be on MIRC on EFNET SERVER channel #mw-raves
>
> **This will be the last Generate Broadcast(for a least a while)..so we're
> happy the people who have listened out there have enjoyed it..look for it
> soon back in effect!!  Thanks again for all the support!! Any
> feedback..please direct it here:
> turntablepsycho@hotmail.com**
> questions about unsubbing or other mw-raves miscellany?
> *beep*
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>
>

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I am out the door!!  If I do not arrive at Interstellar by Midnight
tommorrow (wed/thurs), then im dead!!!


See everyone there, if I make it!!!!


derek.

Midwest Nutzak Massive REPRAZENT, BEEE-OTCH!!!!



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 12:50:12 1999
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From: Becky Wangenheim <wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu>
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Well, since I'm cc'ing both lists, I think you all knows what's about to
come....

*sigh*

I can't go to ID... *cries* I have 21 hours of classes this semester, plus
an Honors Project and am working 10 hours a week, and there's absolutely
no possible way I can go this weekend, unless I get my own office,
complete with a computer that has Microsoft Word in German, a German
keyboard and a printer....

15 of my 21 hours are German classes, and yesterday I found out that for
Tuesday I have to read 3 German novels, a few long ass "short" stories in
German, write two summaries of 2/3 novels, begin an oral presentation for
my German linguistics class and then do regular homework as well....

So, since I know that if I were to go to ID, I'd get absolutely nothing
done as far as schoolwork goes, and I'm in enough classes where I'm doing
stuff that actually prepares me for my future career as a teacher, I can't
blow off school like I could 2, 3 years ago... =(

I'm so sick of not getting a break on our 3 -day weekends, and instead
having professors say, "WOW! They have an extra day, so let's make it so
noone gets to have any fun!" I am taking Labor Day in the literal sense,
and doing Labor... =(

*cries*

I definitely would love to hear the minutes of the Midwest Rave Summit and
I WANT to heaar long, detailed reviews please....

I'm sorry guys, this totally sucks, but my priorities like family and
school come first, before fun... =(

-Becky =)

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We are already planning on doing this! 

-- Robin 

Adam Sjogren wrote:
> 
> I would like someone to keep a 'minutes' of sorts and post it for those of
> us who cant make it...if thats not too much to ask of course
> 
> >From: Robin Urmanic <bpositive@sprintmail.com>
> >Reply-To: Robin Urmanic <bpositive@sprintmail.com>
> >To: kcpa@egroups.com, pappy@syquil.com, Id-discussion@pubnix.org,
> >stl-raves@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, kc-raves@egroups.com
> >CC: deeluscious@hotmail.com, tamarama303@yahoo.com, hednist32@hotmail.com,
> >pakanuda@hotmail.com
> >Subject: [mw] Midwest Rave Summit -- this weekend at ID!
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:37:24 -0500
> >
> >Finally kids, here is the information you have been waiting for!
> >
> >MIDWEST RAVE SUMMIT
> >5 - 7:30 p.m.  Saturday
> >at Interstellar Dreamfest
> >Main Stage

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I hear that Britney Spears is going to Marquette University. Imagine 
that...the next big Wisconsin even featuring that pop diva: Britney S.!! Ha!


P

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I'm not going to ID either. I guess it sucks to be me...










questions about unsubbing or other mw-raves miscellany?
*beep*
http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html

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                                       |
         sat sep 11 . chicago, il . RETURN TO HARDCORE CHICAGO '99 |

*** Look for the "Return to: Hardcore Chicago" 3rd annual base ball style -=20
collectable dj card's! Ther're everywhere!!! Its been a home run hit every=20
year!!!!
Collect them all '96, '98 and now '99......
The Midwest Major League Grand Slam is Back!

Saturday, September 11th 1999

R E T U R N   TO :
HARDCORE CHICAGO
the king of grand slams

w   i   t   h
Special Guests from Paris France...
SUPERFUNK=20
& SEXYKOOL
MIKE 303  FAFA MONTECO  &  STEPHANE B=20
& LIVE: SEXYKOOL AKA OLIVER GAUTHIER=20
Fiet lux, & Black Jack Records
The International Feature!=20
We've Got The Funk, 'Believe it!!!
Three "Hot Tempered" French House Dj's and one Amazing, Groovy Musician! Wha=
t=20
more could you ask for? There the most anticipated new bunch out of France=20
today!=20
The Presentation!! Bustin out LIVE Act Sexy Kool: OH my goodness live disko=20
rhythms similar to what Mom and Dad loved back in their glory days! Super=20
Funk's Presentation features LIVE SAMPLES, MC - Mike 303 on the VOCODER and=20
in all the MIX. Other dj's and kids that party rite surly are gonna FREAK!! =
A=20
first ever in America! Talk about it - Read about it later!=20
Just remember, "we told you so"!
THE RECORD LABEL!!!! Fiat Lux is one of France's newest and hottest House=20
Record Labels! There main objective is to discover new artists who will=20
completely rock the planet!! Hey if the like's of: Philippe Zdar, Daft Punk,=20
Dimitri From Paris, Dj Sneak, Paul Johnson, Basement Jaxx, Ian Pooley, and=20
Dave Angel are pumpin and love there music, it must be Damn good!=20

ADAM X.
Brooklyn, NY // Sonic Groove, Wax Trax Records
In New York there's the Rumble of subway trains, honking horns, the rattle o=
f=20
the taxi's and Adam X! On the turntables his Dark and Funky Techno Majik is=20
hailed by the underground's most respecting crowds.=20

SOUL GRABBER -LIVE
Paul Jacobs
Toronto Ontario, Canada // Aquarius Recordings, Stickman Records
Putting on a complete show he's gonna let loose and go absolutely wild on th=
e=20
piano keys! Were happy to present you with what DJ ESP and others have said=20
will be a real Pumpin nighttime experience!=20
=20
DIETRICH of Unit Park
Broolkyn // NY Hidden Agenda
A cosmic messenger that always delivers what tells you to get excited! ".=20
LIVE PA and DJ set, twice as nice! AS SEEN IN "MODULATIONS"

DANNY THE WILD CHILD
Chicago // Canvas Recordings
Chicago and does he it well! D & B's Wild Child is home for the weekend so..=
.
Time^=C5 Time^=C5 Time^=C5 for some action. An all out hour of choice rude c=
hewns,=20
rhymin rhythms and supa slick scratchin!=20
   =20
ESP WOODY MCBRIDE
Minneapolis, St Paul // Mile High, Communique USA, & Ovum
VISIT: www.communiqueusa.com
"I Bought some cool analog gear, Pink Floyd synthesizers and stared making=20
really ballistic techno Music"!!!

PAUL JOHNSON
Chicago // Moody, Defected, Riviera, Dust Trax, Night Life Collective
Baby's on Fire, better throw 'em in the water!=20

DJ TRON=20
Chicago // Junior High Recordings, Blood N' Guts, Strike, Brutal Chud
Move over Limp Bizkit cos im in Spin Magazine TOO!=20
   =20
STUDIO NOVA -LIVE
Mazi=20
Chicago // Afterhours, Fiet Lux, Subliminal
Now this is entertainment!! Live Vocal Performers, a Bass Player, a Guitar=20
Player, a Piano Player, & yes defiantly hear the Drummer get wicked!! Let th=
e=20
LIVE on stage celebration begin! Is Marti Gras or is it Mazi?=20

CHICAGO'S MUSHGROOVE Crew:
Frankie Vega  Sonic Boom  Phil Free Art
Matt Druid  J Lunatic  Maddgroove with special guest DJ TRONNE MIXX
A Musically adventurous collective eagerly out to participate in the best of=20
dance floor affairs!=20

DJ MOTION
Chicago, Afterhours
"It aint nothin but a party we've just come to play a groove^=C5..It aint=20
nothin=20
but a party we've just come to make ya move"!

Presenting The=20
ULTIMATE VOLUME ALL-STAR'S
This will be a show in itself!

Crusin cool from Madison to Chicago!
MINDRIVE -a  n d- SYNERGY=20
DJ WARP - DAN X - DJ SKIP - PAUL ANTHONY
DEVASTATING DENNIS - KYLE SZMURLO - DJ SHAFT=20
DEEP STAR & DEELISHOUS

???
What's with the question marks???=20
Were gonna hit ya with the latest in big boys toys around!! Get ready for=20
this, were gonna give it to ya good!! Numark and Hot Jams Records are giving=20
us a pair of the "NEW" Numark Turntables!=20
So^=C5 were giving them to YOU!=20
Decided by the luck of the draw at Midnight, we will present a single ADVANC=
E=20
TICKET HOLDER with 2 brand new Numark Turntabels! Make sure you hold on to=20
those ticket stubs once you enter and YES you must be an advance ticket=20
holder to participate!=20
Come on out and end the last summer of the Millennium as our winner! This ca=
n=20
be your big chance to come strong in the next century and who knows maybe=20
even some day let us introduce you to everyone as The Next "BIG" Show Gun!!=20
With out a doubt a chance like this just doesn't happen every weekend! Thank=
s=20
to Hot Jams for making this possible and YOU for all of your continuous=20
support over the past 6 years!! Be sure and stop by Hot Jams located at 5012 =20
s pulaski and check out the Hardcore Chicago Turntable Display! Good luck=20
from Incredibeets and Mushgroove!

un matodore systema de sonido //  King Kong's boom box aka Diversivied Audio=
.=20
Concert style in every room!! Boy is it gonna sound good! A big shout out to=20
Tim and crew for makin it happen!
LIGHTS  / LASERS // Mark Martin over everybody, powerful and bright like a=20
thousand sun's. "NEW" laser debut, tons of the intelligent light fixtures,=20
and a disko ball bonanza!! (Woody this one's for you!)=20
OVT VISUALZ // Professional and the very best! Big and bold goes the dj or=20
artist, from on the stage to the big screen above live via camera! 16 mm=20
looooooop de loop action, some slides and video. Plain and simply put "It 'l=
l=20
be out of sight"! Credits include: M tv's Amp show, back ground madness for=20
Rabbit In The Moon Live and Presentations seen on a planetary basis! =20
ART SPECTACLE // An Extra funky touch by Wade of core innovations, Isrial=20
"Draxx" Romero and The Glu Cru! Humongungous Life Size Base Balls, An=20
Official Hardcore Chicago Score Board and more!
GRANDSTAND: COLLECT - O - RAMA by Incredibeets  // Looking for a certain pas=
t=20
event Flyer? Most of the time they sure are super natural works of art! We=20
've been collecting flyers and zines for years (since 1992). Come on, we kno=
w=20
you have too! "Reactor, CHA, Free Art, ATP, Ministry Of Truth, Massive, URB"=
!=20
Tons of  Magazines, Home Zines, and Flyers! Who knows YOU might have=20
something we're looking for, WE might have something your looking for. So=20
lets swap or something huh? Look for the Incredibeets flyer / zine collect=20
-o- rama meet in the food and beverage vending area. Hosted by Maddgroove an=
d=20
Phil Free Art! This is for those who remember^=C5..those to remember^=C5..th=
ose=20
who=20
are interested^=C5..if you don't know now you will!
TICKET GIVEAWAYS // Tune in and listen to^=C5 fm frequencies: (chicago) 88.5=20
whpk Sunday nights, 9pm - 2am w/ Matt Positive and Eric Spex. (milwaukee)=20
91.7 wmse Saturday nights, 9pm - 2am w/ Steven K.


ADVANCE TICKETS: $18 / $25 DOOR Advance tickets will be available august =20
31st until september 10th at untitled 2707 n clark - 773.404.9225 and hot=20
jams 5012 s pulaski - 773.581.5267. Only advance ticket holders will have th=
e=20
opportunity to participate in the technics turntable give away / drawing!=20
Vending or guest list inquires can be e mailed to: mgrooveusa@aol.com- no=20
walk up guest list. no exceptions!! GUEST LIST MUST BE PRE-APPROVED.=20

EVENT LOCATION ANNOUNCED DAY OF SHOW ON MAIN INFO LINES!!!
DOORS OPEN 9 PM SHARP / NO OPEN CONTAINERS / BE PREPARED TO BE SEARCHED.

MAIN INFO // 773.509.6869
www.slipmat.net/mushgroove

ADDITIONAL/SUPPORTING INFO LINES:=20
Chicago  / core innovations / 773.509.4974
Chicago / mile high / 773.509.2938=20
Chicago / boogie tribe / 773.509.5050
Milwaukee / dbn / 414.777.3998=20
Madison / erotishock / 608.258.0003=20
Minneapolis / mile high / 651.649.4700
Indianapolis / musique boutique / 317.592.9536=20
Detroit / aphasic press / 313.438.1668=20
Iowa / digital percep. / 317.297.9273=20
St. Louis / superstars / 314.994.1114=20
Louisville / evolution / 502.569.1969=20
Columbus / elemental / 614.470.0929

A MIDWEST PRODUCT!

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Yes, I'm gonna be spinning...hopefully.


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 sat sep 18 . celeveland, oh . SOUNDSTORM |

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 18  SOUnDStorM      CLEVELAND, OHIO

SoundStorm is evidence that the future is now.  On September 18th, L.I.M.E.=20
and Full Spectrum will assemble a dedicated collage of performers from both=20
the U.S. and Britain.  These are some of the artists who are at the=20
cutting-edge of the musical landscape and have proven themselves through=20
years of persistence, hard work, and experience that they are here for the=20
love of the music.  So now it^=D2s time to dream once more those kaleidoscop=
e =20
dreams, to close our eyes, forget the world, and listen with anticipation to=20
the thundering sounds of the underground...

Full Spectrum
L.I.M.E.

Presenting...
                           SLACKER
              (UK/London/XL Records/Hooj Choons)
One of UK^=D2s leading scratch mix djs in the mid 80s, Slacker won critical=20
acclaim in the 90s with the single ^=D1Scared,^=D2 a powerful, atmospheric h=
ouse=20
groove that generated a buzz for five months even though one copy existed-in=20
the capable hands of Sasha.  He has produced remixes for Sister Sledge,=20
Armand Van Helden, Yazz, Boy George, T-Era, Prodigy, and Locust, to name a=20
few and has played globally: Spundae-San Francisco, Stix-Hong Kong,=20
Electroclub-Monterrey, Mexico, Maas-London... He will dazzle you tonight=20
with a varied mix of British progressive and trance along with a unique host=20
of turntable trickery.  This one^=D2s for those in the know.


                          DJ SY & MC STORM
                          (UK/London/Quosh)
The one known as SY has brought crowds to a roar at legendary UK events such=20
as Helter Skelter, Dreamscape, and Slammin^=D2 Vinyl.  Best known for his=20
fast-paced high-energy sets and wicked scratching, Sy also propels the Happy=20
Hardcore sound through the running of the Quosh label and various CD Mix=20
Compilations with Europe^=D2s very own DJ^=D2s Dougal and Vibes.  He rocked =
the=20
house at BONKERS and in Chicago^=D2s Wonderland series. Together with MC STO=
RM,=20
a true lyrical artist in his own, this dynamic duo will be sure to have you=20
jumpin^=D2 & stompin^=D2 !


+1st live p.a. ever!+   ANGEL ALANIS & HALO +1st live p.a. ever!+
               (Chicago/MCM/Contaminated/Full Spectrum)
If there are two words to describe Angel it is that he is versatile and=20
evolving.  His drive as a versatile producer has resulted in numerous=20
hardhouse, techno, and house singles; with a vast array of remixes as part=20
of the package.  His evolving wizardry on the decks shifts from=20
^=D3turntablist^=D4 to impressive e.q. manipulator.  Tonight he celebrates t=
he=20
Summer release of the double album L.P. on Contaminated Records: The=20
Subconscious State of Techno, with a real time analog/digital performance. =20
Totally plugged and historic.  (Not bad for a boy who use to stir dough in a=20
cookie factory :P)
He will team up with another Midwest mover, Halo.  Their combination as the=20
TRUNKIDS has brought forth a widelly respected CD compiliation and their=20
recent project entails an upcoming TRUNKIDS album.  Both of these artists=20
have moved the floors from East to West and beyond...


                                 LION
            (New York/Jungle Nut Productions/Nutty Records)
Originally from Stockholm, Sweden, Lion is the current resident at NYC^=D2s=20
Direct Drive.  For 2 Years he was the correspondent for Atmosphere Magazine,=20
awarded the ^=D3Best Magazine ^=D3 award at the V.I.P. Jungle Awards in Engl=
and=20
1996.  He collaborated with DJ Seoul of Tech Fu-Do to promote the weekly=20
gatherings known as Rumble Sessions and is in pursuit of enveloping the=20
floor with hard-hitting, energetic Drum & Bass, loaded with exclusive dubs=20
and advance cuts.

                                  C4
(Tampa/Funklab Records/ZazooRecords-UK/Street Beat Records/Dreamscape)
The Funklab consists of the collaborative spirits of dj/producers C4 and=20
B.Nice.  It is one of the fastest growing and consistent breakbeat/electro=20
production teams in the U.S. C4^=D2s diverse and eclectic style mixes electr=
o,=20
intelligent breaks, hardhouse, dub house, happy hardcore, and drum & bass,=20
making sure to keep the floor moving to the beat.  Their 1998 hit ^=D1Bad As=
s=20
Mutha^=D2 is currently being remixed by intelligent break and trance produce=
r=20
Graeme L. from the UK.  Future projects include a versus E.P. with South=20
Florida^=D2s Eclipse.  (For those aware of the previous controversy surround=
ing=20
a C4 impostor touring the U.S., tonight the genuine article arrives.)

                                  CZR
                     (Chicago/MCM/Subliminal/Moody)
Inspired by the talents of Chicago legendary DJ International recording=20
artists, including Fast Eddie, Kool Rock Steady, Tyree Cooper, CZR^=D2s=20
production career was catapulted in 1997 with the release of  2 projects. =20
His work alongside house music hero, Darry Pandy, resulted in the first=20
single ^=D3Do You Want My Love^=D4 (released on Chicago^=D2s Moody Recording=
s) and=20
the second release, ^=D3Bad Enough^=D4 (released on Erick Morillo^=D2s world=20
renowned=20
label, Subliminal Records).  Having perfected his craft since the age of 12=20
with the early influences of hip-hop and disco, CZR has also remixed=20
countless projects for Arista, Logic, and ESP-Sun.  His smooth underground=20
house will make you Jack and boogieas the twilight breaks.

                              DELTA-9
                (Chicago/Industrial Strength Records)
This hardcore muthafuka^=D2 makes enough noise on his own that nothing more=20
needs to be said!


                                DJ JES
             (Chicago/IHR/Static Records/Fresca Recordings)
Jes is an original house pioneer, incorporating deep house classics along=20
with the latest techno within his rare grooves and underground style, hence=20
people will sometimes associate him with a tech-house sound.  He held a=20
4-year residency at the infamous Chicago ^=D3Warehouse^=D4 and has produced =
for=20
the last five years on labels such as: Chicago Groove, Catalyst, 4 Track=20
Records, and Afterhours Records.  1999 seems to be a promising year for this=20
14-year dj veteran with releases on his new label, Fresca Recordings.

                              TIGGER
                   (Evolution/L.I.M.E./Bassheads)
This dj has moved around so much that we didn^=D2t know what city to associa=
te=20
him with.  What we do know is that urban folklore has it that he^=D2ll=20
physically bring down the lights whenever he drops the needle on the record.=20
  Jusk ask anyone who attended Bang^=D2 n^=D2 Beatz this past May in Clevela=
nd.

                     LUIS AGUILERA/aka galaga
                     (Chicago/Full Spectrum)
>From the heydays of Chicago^=D2s party crew scene in the 80^=D2s, Luis has=20
played=20
the likes of New Wave, Industrial, Deep Chicago House, Techno, Trance, Hard=20
Acid Trance, Rush House, Happy Hardcore, and Trancecore.  Not discriminating=20
in any musical sensation, but searching and exploring the best in each genre=20
is part of his dj first mentality.  His recent travels to Toronto=20
(Stronghold ^=D198), Mexico (Telarana ^=D199), and his return to the MidWest =
at=20
Drop Bass^=D2 Little Furthur has earned him wider recognition and has made h=
is=20
wallet a lot thinner from the wax he^=D2s bought.

                    ISAAC ^=D3kickin^=D2 it^=D4 CURIEL
                           (Chicago/UC)
An up and coming, Isaac returns to Cleveland with HardHouse written all over=20
his face.  (Whatever the hell that means)

MAIN INFO LINES:
L.I.M.E. LINE -  216.556.4998
FULL SPECTRUM - 773.509.6343

http://fly.to/fullspectrum =3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcommunicate    =20
http://members.xoom.com/djgruve=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dliberate

Support Lines
Cleveland:  Sphere - 216.556.2982
        Teknova - 216.556.2305
Chicago:    Blink - 312.409.8684
        Mushgroove - 773.509.6869
Columbus:   Two Tigers - 614.232.6677
        Collective Intelligence - 614.470.3839
Cincinnati  CBS - 513.395.8576
        Subsonik - 513.682.3282
Milwaukee:  Drop Bass Network - 414.777.3998
St. Louis   Kindred Groove - 314.351.4051
Dayton:         Bounce Theory - 937.496.4624
Pittsburgh: House of Styles - 412.734.8427
        Downlow - 412.355.8425
Indianapolis:   Yellow No. 13 - 317.971.6937
        House of Babylon - 317.592.9236
Louisville: Evolution - 502.569.1969
Nashville:  KFP - 615.366.0266

=3D=3D=3D=3Dand please visit=3D=3D=3D=3D www.downlow.net
        =3D=3D=3D=3D www.lovebomb.org =3D=3D=3D=3D

OOOH^=D2s and AAAH^=D2s :)  Sound:Midnite Blue - Cleveland
                Light:Electrolyte FX - Pittsburgh
                Live Video Mix: Type O - Pittsburgh

This sound, light, and video production team is a must see.  They^=D2re=20
strictly professional and masters at their craft...

Day of Event: $25w/canned food    $30w/out
Limited Advance Tickets Will Go On Sale Between August 28th and September=20
17th For $20 At The Following Locations: Supreme/Chicago - 773.862.7047,=20
Hip-House/Chicago - 773.237.2188, Grand Poo-bas/Cleveland - 216.521.9177,=20
Fame Records/Akron - 330.434.1354, and World Records/Columbus - 614.297.7900

Vending or guest list inquiries may be made to either the main info lines or=20
at fspectrum@yahoo.com. Any other info contact djgruve@hotmail.com  Thank=20
you...

NO DRUGS, MARKERS, ALCOHOL, BAD VIBES...the only way to keep this alive is=20
to keep you and I alive...BRING YOUR DANCING SHOES AND FREE SPIRIT...^=D2nuf=
f=20

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>wow....lora is showing her kinky side....too bad you're trying to include
>me....somebody pinch her and please wake her...or Chris, slap her awake....
>
>knowing lora can't hang
>Shawne

lora has no kinky side....she just IS....and no, you are not invited to this 
slumber party...
~done~
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 13:40:15 1999
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Okay okay okay...

who is this Lora person..and what does she have to do with trance, wesley 
willis, raves advertised on MTV?

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>that has to be the most intelligent, well thought out response i've >read 
>on
>this mailing list... thanks jesse!
>
></sarcasm>
>
>eat a dick!
>
>- -charlie / angelboi-

wwwwhat!  i'll whipe the floor with your tied-dyed ass, hippie!
- -jesse / demonman

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 13:59:28 1999
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WARENGFNK@aol.com wrote:
> 
>     Yes, I had the wonderful opportunity to see Brittney Spears in concert
> Sat night.  If u must know I went with my younger brother and his two friends
> because they needed a ride and had an extra ticket. Anyways, the point of my
> post is that before and during the concert, there were about 3 or 4 vendors
> selling little 4inch glowsticks with Brittney Spears logo's printed on them.
> So by the time it got dark, there were hundreds of little teeny boppers
> jammin to Brittney tunes (which i might add she only sung about half, the
> other were lip-synched) and jammin with there glowsticks. HA! just thought
> i'd share.

I WANT BRITTNEY GLOWSTICKS!!!! I WILL DANCE WITH THEM!!!!

....although to be honest, dey'd most likely end up fishead's ass wif
all de others.
*shrug*

> And if u saw the Buckeyes play sunday, we meant to lose, We cant
> lose!

bah. yer bucks got whooped by miami jus like dey gonna git whooped by da
bagders yo.

buckle up.

....and pack a lunch,
--aRNO
:]
 
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PHILFART@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I hear that Britney Spears is going to Marquette University. Imagine
> that...the next big Wisconsin even featuring that pop diva: Britney S.!! Ha!
> 
> P

ey yo phil! yer still campin out wif me in de woods wif da binocs by her
lake geneva crib right?

...i gets ascared in de woods at night nowdays after dat damn witch
movie.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 14:12:27 1999
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>who is this Lora person..and what does she have to do with trance, wesley
>willis, raves advertised on MTV?

i am the one and only Princess Applesauce and, yes, the world revolves 
around me...
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 14:13:32 1999
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got this from a friend - dunno if yall have seen it yet but this just bugs
me....
http://www.latimes.com/CNS_DAYS/990831/t000077578.html

like he said, its sure to get some blood boiling on both sides of the issue.


From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 14:48:34 1999
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I have the more than complete hitchhikers guide to the universe if n e 1 wants
to read it.  It has all his books in it.  Also, Douglas Adams what drunk off
his ass the whole time he was writing it.  Any Hunter S. fans?
-Stumps

acidiz wrote:

> > It's from a book called The Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...by doouglas
> > adams ... ill lend it to you...
> > shame on you for not having already read it! ;)
> >
> > whendee
> >
> >
>
> if you liked THGTTG, you'd prolly like the book 'good omens', by terry
> pratcher and neil gaiman.  its kinda along the same lines of humor, only
> even better (imho, of course)!  neil gaiman is a kickass writer, all of his
> works are worth a look at.
>
> acidiz
>
> questions about unsubbing or other mw-raves miscellany?
> *beep*
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>Hey Jesse,Where do you think the name RAVER came from? they are >people who 
>go to
>raves, right?

JA!  but i said that i don't like ravers, not people who attend raves, but 
the slimey, rolling, glowing ravers.


>And if my memory serves correct, you dont mind a little
>substance here and there yer self.

JA!  but I don't do 'em at parties..well besides furthur and day rave.. and 
i sure as hell would rather go sober for the rest of my life than to steal 
from another for drugs.



>All good deeds are returned to you, the same as bad deeds. Thats why
>I belive in PLUR.

plur follows the idea of karma?


>Still luv ya bro,Peas n' loveShawn (you know, the naked guy)

love you too:)

jesse

- computer controlled/acid techno live p.a.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 15:12:30 1999
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The tapes were great, nice clean mixing.  And they sound sweet on the subs in
the car, we listened to em all the way to indy saturday night.
Mahalo,
Stumpy

". craig/spree ." wrote:

> My website is:
>
> http://members.xoom.com/djspree
>
> Also, did everyone that we emailed back get the tapes that Tilzs and I sent
> out for the free give-away? Just want to make sure :-)
>
> -Craig/Spree
>
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*1.) why is this on the list? don't get me wrong, I love RPGs and all,
*but how is this raves related...oh yeah, soozi, suzi...however she
*spells it start this thread...


because it is related to experiences had by several listmembers in each
other's presence while attending a "Rave"


*2.) anyone here play any of the White Wolf games? like Vampire:
*the Masquerade (V:tM) and such...cause I *love* Vampire...that is a
*fun ass game...then again, I role-play for the intrigue in that game
*plus it's fun as all hell...

but have you been playing with list-members while at a "Rave?" If not, this
is not raves-related, even while being fun as hell...

*and to make this thread semi-rave related...


yes, thank you =)

*Note: you have to know a bit about V:tM to get this...

I don't know much about trademarks, you'll have to talk to Storm & Atreu,
Inc (tm) about that one

=)

yes i was supposed to leave 3 hours ago...

pixie


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> 1.) why is this on the list? don't get me wrong, I love RPGs and all, 
> but how is this raves related...oh yeah, soozi, suzi...however she 
> spells it start this thread...

Becuz peeps were gaming AT a rave silly.  Therefore, the thread is rave
related.  =P  AND, if I'm at a party, and the MWTrancers fail to invite me
to game with them, may hordes of rot grub sneak into their sleeping bags!
bwoooahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!

> 2.) anyone here play any of the White Wolf games? like Vampire: 
> the Masquerade (V:tM) and such...cause I *love* Vampire...that is a 
> fun ass game...then again, I role-play for the intrigue in that game 
> plus it's fun as all hell...
> 
I don't really like the White Wolf (and related) game systems.  I find it
a little boring personally.  It might have just been the group I was
gaming with, but...   


Ciaooooooooooo  moo.

Kale/DreamSequence


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>>who is this Lora person..and what does she have to do with trance, wesley
>>willis, raves advertised on MTV?
>
>i am the one and only Princess Applesauce and, yes, the world revolves 
>around me...


. . . 

would that be "the real world" ???

=*~_~*=



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dude, you need to get those kids to a rave ASAP or else they face a life of
lameness forever!!!

PJ

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [mw] NRR-Brittney Spears the Raver


    Yes, I had the wonderful opportunity to see Brittney Spears in concert 
Sat night.  If u must know I went with my younger brother and his two
friends 
because they needed a ride and had an extra ticket. Anyways, the point of my

post is that before and during the concert, there were about 3 or 4 vendors 
selling little 4inch glowsticks with Brittney Spears logo's printed on them.

So by the time it got dark, there were hundreds of little teeny boppers 
jammin to Brittney tunes (which i might add she only sung about half, the 
other were lip-synched) and jammin with there glowsticks. HA! just thought 
i'd share. And if u saw the Buckeyes play sunday, we meant to lose, We cant 
lose!         
                         Peace and Love   Warren  GO BUCKS!!
questions about unsubbing or other mw-raves miscellany?
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In a message dated 9/1/99 10:22:31 AM Central Daylight Time, 
kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu writes:

<< > 1.) why is this on the list? don't get me wrong, I love RPGs and all, 
 > but how is this raves related...oh yeah, soozi, suzi...however she 
 > spells it start this thread... >>

lalala....yeah...it's suzi, freek.. geez...I love this.  'however she spells 
it'
bahahaha...whatever...

suzi/s00zi

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I finished listening to your tapes.  I'm not big into HH so I can't give
your two HH tapes due justice.  They were mixed very clean but I just
couldn't get into them.  The third tape, Nice Shoes, by Tilz is totally
awesome though!  It hasn't come out of my car's tape deck since I put it in
(and will probably stay there for quite a bit longer).  Keep up on the
harder stuff.

I would like to keep the Nice Shoes tape and pay ya for it.  I know the idea
of a promo tape is to get your name out there but if it's good I like to pay
up for it.  Lemme know how much you think your work is worth and I'll send
ya off some cash.  

The other 2 HH tapes I'd like to offer to send back to ya or send them on to
someone else on the list who would enjoy HH more than I.

Any takers?


Big thanx again!

PJ


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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 9:34 PM
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My website is:

http://members.xoom.com/djspree

Also, did everyone that we emailed back get the tapes that Tilzs and I sent 
out for the free give-away? Just want to make sure :-)

-Craig/Spree

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Hey you phreaky kids!

If anyone is looking for something to do on Thursday and feel like getting
their butts to Champaign, IL., they can go to Illini Student Union and see
Peter Mannix (Fiz) spin!
He's bringing his skinny butt allll the way back from Boston to spin a
double-extended super long, one hour rippin' Techno set.  
Also, Joe Schiznit will be spinning a dark-a$$, beats to the head, jungle
set.  As well, they have a tripped-our track producer playing his sounds
for the kiddies.
There's someone else, but I can't remember who at this particular moment.

It's a good place to be, AND it's on the way to I.D. for all the Peeps
north of Carbondale!  A couple kids could crash out here and head for I.D.
the next day if they want.

Ciaaaooooo!

Kale/DreamSequence


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Well i just thought i would help enlighten you guys a little more
check this out
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~oml7s/wesley/wesley.html

Whendee

>Let me tell you this: it's not easy to find
>a person who, even though they've never
>seen you before in their life, will let you
>walk up to them and bang your head against
>theirs repeatedly.  It's certainly an
>admirable quality.
>
>
>

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>>Well im new ta thiz lil list, ma names robyn,im a detroit kidee
>>(deEeetroi>t
>>luV!)..umm>m, yeah, ahem--ne wayz i jus wanted ta post thiz lil poem >type
>>We are tha peepz-    tryin ta keep it real
>>    We've been labeled,    we know their expectations for us
>>    But we refuse to conform to thier way of life.
>>    We will continue to spread PLUR  in hopes
>>    of opening minds to tha true meaning of life--
>>    We were not put on thiz earth ta make large sums of money.
>>    Nor were we put here to gain power over others.
>
>i may be jaded, but that poem is shit.   another reason i hate ravers.
>welcome to the real world.  we are put on this earth to survive, and we 
>have
>to make money and walk over other people to make our lives easier.  you
>ravey ideas of a utopian society disgust me.  plus, i think you're all 
>about
>the rolls, man.  just about every raver, not people who attend raves, but
>RAVERS..well..every one of 'em i talk to before a party is like...dude, i
>hear so and so has tweety birds..blah blah...oh yeah sugar cubes..la la
>la...do you have a menthol?  i feel they should be more about the
>music...they preach all this love and shit, but they'll break into your car
>to find enough change to get a roll..or a sack of K..fuck that, i'm so
>disgusted i'm not even making sense.
>
></rant>
>
>
>rave on..*:)*
>
>jesse

I am so happy that people like you are disgusted with the Ravers.  Because 
of course, we are all losers who just wanna roll.  That's all it's about.  I 
front like I am preaching vibes and love and shit, but it's only about the 
rolls. (major sarcasm)

Fuck that!  Who the fuck are you to stereotype?  All you ravers out there, 
let's say fuck the normal people.  Because there is obviously a difference 
in who is *higher up* on the society scale.  *sigh*

I am so irritated *I'm not even making sense.*

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Now it's really too bad when they have to bring up the drug issue before
the fact.  We still don't know if the driver of the vehicle was intoxicated
or not. Even if she was, maybe she was just reaching over to grab a tape or
something and didn't see the curb, who knows...  

The article used the parents emotions to bias other's opinions about raves.
 I think if anything, this article demostrates parents ignorance when it
comes to these parties.  Maybe it would be a good idea to expose children
to raves as early as possible.  That way, when they get older they will be
more mature about some of the illegal things that go on at raves.  It's
sorta the same ideology that Europeans have when it comes to alcohol. (God,
I love Europe :D)

Hey, for those who went to Forever After; who saw the two todlers running
around with glowsicks?  They were twirling their little glowsticks around
during the Kickinbeats set, but I also saw them various other times
throughout the weekend.  I must admit, it was pretty cute.  If I were a
parent, I'm not sure if I would expose my children to raves at that young
an age, but that's just my opinion. 

Ryan  
 





At 10:09 AM 9/1/99 -0400, you wrote:
>got this from a friend - dunno if yall have seen it yet but this just bugs
>me....
>http://www.latimes.com/CNS_DAYS/990831/t000077578.html
>
>like he said, its sure to get some blood boiling on both sides of the issue.
>
>


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Imagine Wesley Willis doing this song...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
MW-ravers


MW-Ravers use computers.
Some are PCs and others are Macintoshes
MW-Ravers can be cool
Sometimes they can be annoying

MW-ravers
MW-ravers
MW-ravers
MW-ravers

Some are from the north 
And some are from the south
They go to raves
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 18:30:58 1999
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On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:
> If anyone is looking for something to do on Thursday and feel like getting
> their butts to Champaign, IL., they can go to Illini Student Union and see
> Peter Mannix (Fiz) spin!

D'oh, I need to figure out a way to be there for that...  His mixtape, I
Bleed for This, on djsets.hyperreal.org is awesome, probably my favorite
on there (I Bleed for This? is also a great magazine on the Internet...
Check out my homepage for a link to it...)

There's just that whole living in Minnesota and having to work tomorrow
and Friday thing I have to get around. :)

Anybody who can go should really go see him, he rocks.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 18:36:15 1999
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my take on the spree/tilz mixes.....
-or-
how i danced in the shower, the bathroom, my old truck [see 'my weekend in
detroit....[long]], at work, back in my POS old truck [again see 'my weekend
in detroit...[long]], and several public places including 2 grocery stores,
a gas station, and a mcdonalds to the gafaw of many others....
-or-
GOT METH?

soooooo....ever have that feeliong that if u stop dancing u will die?  or u
just dont wanna stop dancing wherever the fuck u are?  get these tapes.  to
overuse some classic raver slang....the track selection was DOPE, the mixing
is TIGHT as hell, and over-all on the PHAT-O-METER i give i  a 110 out of
53.

i had the pleasure of seeing spree play in detroit @ pimps a weekend ago and
let me tell u he RIPPED it up.  detroit kidz didnt know wut hit em.   i
thought it wuz funny when i looked around and the ONLY people dancing were
mr. defunkt kandyboi with his funfurpants and mr. more rave than u doris.
thats it.  all the ghetto kids were either big eye'ing ron jerey or just
plain too fucked up to figure out wut to do.  spree u da man.
i'd love to see tilz play at some point if i can ever get a new fuckin CAR
*ahem*

back to the mixes.  thank god for my cd burner.  i burned them to cd and
listened to them all the way to detroit b4 all my shit wuz stolen, and now
thank god for my walkman cause the damn thing hasnt left my head since i
woke up this morning.  i'm still @ work listening and pumping out my CAD
drawings faster than a grenoble monkey on crack [obscure referance to wild
discovery and hyper monkies].

*deep breath*

anyone got thorazine?
-matt


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good god doris dont kill me.  just call me the idiot who cant type!*%^$*(#@(
or just call me the idiot.  either will work.

/me runs and hides in the ghetto


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:-)


>From: Joshua Stump <dotcom@datacruz.com>
>Reply-To: happyusa@hardcorps.org
>To: HappyUSA <happyusa@hardcorps.org>
>Subject: happyusa: www.kickinbeats.com
>Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:32:44 -0500
>
>The web site should now be back up.. its a bit dated, but we are working on
>new content....
>
>www.kickinbeats.com - This issue features new mixes, Phil of FreeART
>interview, new Top 3's, as well as an updated "news" section.
>
>-joshua
>
>.....
>Dj Eor - eor@kickinbeats.com
>WebPage - www.kickinbeats.com/eor
>Kickinbeats - www.kickinbeats.com
>icq# - 1508720
>.....
>
>
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 19:03:09 1999
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Hello peeps!

KickinBeats is BACK!

We're still at the same URL (www.kickinbeats.com). The site is a bit dated 
but we're working on bringing new stuff to ya ear right as we speak! Enjoy 
andthanks for the support!

Chris
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Liquid Vinyl/Cloud 14/Kickin Beats, San Francisco
Bookings: 415-431-8398
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 19:18:44 1999
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Angel Alanis is THE MAN!!!...

Saw him @ Bangin' Beatz in May ( awesome set!!! ). Just got my pre-sale for 
Soundstorm ( Cleveland, Sept. 18, L.I.M.E. productions ) where Angel Alanis 
and Halo ( Trunkids ) will be tag-teaming. I am looking forward to this set 
BIG TIME. The Trunkids C.D., "Muzik Box", is totally phat, super funky 
house, the mixing is flawless. Really cool funky guitar and bass and slick 
transitions between tracks.
I'm not really all that in to House anymore ( mostly Drum 'n Bass, Hard 
Trance, etc...) but this shit can't be denied!!!

HYPERACTIVE is only 3 days away!!! I'm all goosebumpy jus' thinkin' about 
it!!!

Niagara Falls, then Toronto...OR BUST!!!

PLUR-
Aaron

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 19:56:58 1999
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> detroit kidz didnt know wut hit em.  i thought it wuz funny when i
> looked around and the ONLY people dancing were mr. defunkt kandyboi
> with his funfurpants and mr. more rave than u doris. thats it.  All the 
> ghetto kids were either big eye'ing ron jerey or just plain too fucked
> up to figure out wut to do.

Hey... I take offense to that (er sumthing)... I was there and neither
eye'ing Ron Jeremy (why would ANYONE want to do that?) nor fucked up... I
was either doing my patented I-haven't-gotten-down-in-months-but-I'll-
give-it-a-shot pseudo raver skip (tm) or selling tapes... but I WAS
dancing. 

Oh yeah.  And I think Doris is gonna have a problem with you referring to
her as a "Mr."

As for Craig's set, pretty damn good.  I've seen heard him spin a couple a
times now... Favorite so far was in a diy tent at lil' furthur.  Nothing
like kickin it to some hh in the sunshine. mmmmm....

The tapes: the new Spree/Tilz box set o' tapes is pretty wicked.  Tilz
spins "dominator" mmmmm...  Spree is the unidsputed champ of chessy 4x4 ;)
As for the freeform/trancekore split... I dig it.  I dig it lots.  The 3rd
or 4th song on Craig's side is DA' BOMB (tm)... it's the one that comes in
real subliminal-like with the hollow sounding tubey sort of break-down.
You guys wanna drive out to ann arbor to do a tag team in a secure U of M
venue? ;)

oh, and fellahs... wanna meet 15 year old nymphette raver hunnies?
BECOME A HAPPY HARDCORE DJ... I've seen Craig in action... It's a sight to
behold.  Het gets a 110 out of a possible 53 on my PIMP-O-METER ;)
Craig... can you get me a discount at Next Generation?

Anyway... everyone should take a lesson from Defunkt i.e. don't come to
detroit... We'll steal your car and leaving you bleeding in the street ;)

one love
Griggles


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BYE! 
heh, well school started..... you guys just post *SO* much.... so yeah. 
if you need me. im here. =P

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im dumb....im supposed to call him tonite, he msg'ed me on irc and i 
accidentally deleted it...so if anyone has the digits, would you so kindly 
give em to me? thanx a bunch!
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Barney Rubble wrote:

> I have the more than complete hitchhikers guide to the universe if n e
> 1 wants
> to read it.  It has all his books in it.  Also, Douglas Adams what
> drunk off
> his ass the whole time he was writing it.  Any Hunter S. fans?
> -Stumps

as in Thompson? i'm a wanna be HST fan; i've yet to read his books an
shit, but da movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas forkin rawks yo.

--aRNO

http://poofin.com/arno/
1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010

no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor





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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 20:13:43 1999
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Well just like the topic says, my tape - Future Primitive is finally
available for you trance hating bastards =)
It is a 90 minute tape which was profesionally recorded, mastered and
duplicated. The tape comes with a big ass full-color j/card and
includes a track listing. They even shrink wrapped it for me *werd*.
Track listing will be available when I have more time to type all that
shit out. Also - soon to be completed www.djtsar.com. It will feature
party reviews, pics, interviews, some real audio and mp3 sets of mine
as well as other dj's. The site will also contain the track listing on
it. So watch the space.
As far as the tape, 50 lucky bastards (or very unlucky ones) will get a
free copy of my tape at ID :) Others - I'll soon email and let ya know
how to get it. But most likely u'll be able to pick it up at
Untranslatable booths :)

Big cherry pie to all,
misha
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 20:17:39 1999
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 suPz!---shaddup!
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If you liked that, go to the library and get a book called the great shark
hunt.  It is a book with a bunch of his articles in it.  Great stuff.  And
the stories are short enough so that you don't lose interest.
-Stumpalicious

Big Black Betty wrote:

> Barney Rubble wrote:
>
> > I have the more than complete hitchhikers guide to the universe if n e
> > 1 wants
> > to read it.  It has all his books in it.  Also, Douglas Adams what
> > drunk off
> > his ass the whole time he was writing it.  Any Hunter S. fans?
> > -Stumps
>
> as in Thompson? i'm a wanna be HST fan; i've yet to read his books an
> shit, but da movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas forkin rawks yo.
>
> --aRNO
>
> http://poofin.com/arno/
> 1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010
>
> no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor


From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 20:24:34 1999
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GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
YOU JUS MADE ME PISS MY FUCKING PANTS!!!!!
NOW I'M SITTIN HERE AT WERK TRYIN TO GET A SECONDARY PARRALLELL PORT TO
WERK IN A CRAP-ASS HEWLETT PACKARD AND MY PANTS ARE ALL FULL OF
PISS!!!!!

GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!

IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T GET THE FUCK UP HERE TO MEQUON WITHIN 15 FUCKING
MINITS, YOU CAN FORGET ASBOUT THE WHOLE BRITTENY SPEARS THING!!!!!

GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!

whendee wrote:

Well i just thought i would help enlighten you guys a little more
check this out
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~oml7s/wesley/wesley.html

Whendee

PHILFART@aol.com wrote:

> Imagine Wesley Willis doing this song...
>
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> -------------------------------
> MW-ravers
>
> MW-Ravers use computers.
> Some are PCs and others are Macintoshes
> MW-Ravers can be cool
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> Some are from the north
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> They go to raves
> Sometimes they can be annoying
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> MW-ravers
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> You get alot of messages when you're subscribed to MW-raves
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> MW-ravers
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> Rock over London, rock on Chicago
> You can never have enough beer



--
http://poofin.com/arno/
1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010

no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor



From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 20:47:01 1999
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same reason theres:
progressive house
hard house
ghetto house
disco house
cheesy ass generic house
acid house

same reason why theres like a billion diffrent kinds of jungle, and
hardcore, and techno and just about everything

progressive, hard, psy, tech are adjectives.. to describe qualities of the
music

some qualities can be applied to many diffrent generes, such as
progressive.. so can acid..
some just dont work...
ever heard of booty trance? or how about disco jungle?

					-sean


On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> Why are there so many different types of Trance?
> *Progressive Trance
> *Hard Trance
> *Psy/Goa Trance
> *Tech-Trance
> Each have similarities, but sound different.  I think that somebody needs to 
> start coming up with some new names or something.  It gets fucking confusing! 
>  If someone tells me a DJ spins just "Trance" I don't get a clear picture of 
> what they mean.
> -Robert C
> 


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pittsburg and cleveland. defetaly.

> this needs to be part of everyone's review's from now on.  now that i'm
> single, i need to know which cities gots all da purtay hoes ;)
> 
> acidiz
> 
> 
> 


From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 20:54:00 1999
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heh....jim i lost your ADDY soooo yeah..... email me back privately!

From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 20:56:52 1999
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In a message dated 9/1/99, 4:24:32 PM, arnoarr4@milwpc.com writes:
<<GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
YOU JUS MADE ME PISS MY FUCKING PANTS!!!!!
NOW I'M SITTIN HERE AT WERK TRYIN TO GET A SECONDARY PARRALLELL PORT TO
WERK IN A CRAP-ASS HEWLETT PACKARD AND MY PANTS ARE ALL FULL OF
PISS!!!!!

GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!

IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T GET THE FUCK UP HERE TO MEQUON WITHIN 15 FUCKING
MINITS, YOU CAN FORGET ASBOUT THE WHOLE BRITTENY SPEARS THING!!!!!

GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>>
  You forgot to end it Wesley "Big" Willis Style:

ROCK OVER LONDON, ROCK OVER CHICAGO.
BRITNEY SPEARS NEW CD ALBUM IS ON SALE...somewhere on this earth..

From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 21:20:12 1999
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If it's on IRC, all you have to do is look at past messages from that
person, and you can see what he last sent you.

How now brown Huffalump.
Kale/DreamSequence

On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Princess Applesauce In Da House wrote:

> im dumb....im supposed to call him tonite, he msg'ed me on irc and i 
> accidentally deleted it...so if anyone has the digits, would you so kindly 
> give em to me? thanx a bunch!
> **lora**
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 01 21:21:36 1999
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yes....hunter s. thompson...i like a lot of his books...he has this one
book where he is talking about different cities and sports events that he
covers in those cities...and he talks about louisville...and he talks
about how he went to the kentucky derby...really interesting...heheh...he
somehow talks his way all the way from the regular seats into the box
where the colonels sit...and gets a presspass and everything on the
way...all while ingesting chemicals of every sort...

fear and loathing the movie follows the book fairly
closely...hallucinations and all...=)  so if you like the movie, chances
are you will like the book...it's one of the few movies that have acting
that keeps up with the quality of the writing...

as far as douglas adams...i like the hitchhiker's guide...very
interesting...

and when you are going anywhere, don't forget your towel...<smiles>
lauryn


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Actually, I've heard someone spin in a really nice booty track into some
hard acid trance... it sounded bad as all hell.

> 
> some just dont work...
> ever heard of booty trance? or how about disco jungle?
> 
> 					-sean


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> 
> fear and loathing the movie follows the book fairly
> closely...hallucinations and all...=)  so if you like the movie, chances
> are you will like the book...it's one of the few movies that have acting
> that keeps up with the quality of the writing...

I really didn't think much of the movie... there was so many interesting
points that they left out, or couldn't portray.  Naturally I feel this
way, since I read the book first... but still.  I loved the book.  Read it
while I was sitting in the field at Nat. Guard for the summer.  That was
interesting, since the military is...mmm...VERY opposed to drug use, so
having that book sitting around got me a few odd looks.  Krazy army guys.
ah well.

Cheerio!

Kale


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Well if you all are asking about the security breach that was publicized
on tuesday it was one of my co-workers who discovered this. His name is
Todd Bracken and my man knows some shit. Five minutes after he sent the
e-mail to msn the hotmail servers were shut down. How about that for fast
actin mofo's. Not to brag just thought that todd should get some props,
you know how gates and the rest of the cronies at microsoft are.  cool,
philly.



On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Pixie wrote:

> for you hotmail geeks...pretty important, if you care.
> 
> > 
> > http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21490.html
> > 
> 
> 
> 


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so solly


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again, a thousand pardons


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On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, jason111 wrote:

+again, a thousand pardons
+

ditto.
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sometimes it takes 'em a few tries to get it right.
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Its nice to know that wesley can turn you on to water sports...
but honey your supposed to have somebody else there...
so what do you think ...should we invite him to WW2?

"I love you like a milkshake" --wesley willis

whendee

>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>YOU JUS MADE ME PISS MY FUCKING PANTS!!!!!
>NOW I'M SITTIN HERE AT WERK TRYIN TO GET A SECONDARY PARRALLELL PORT TO
>WERK IN A CRAP-ASS HEWLETT PACKARD AND MY PANTS ARE ALL FULL OF
>PISS!!!!!
>
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>
>IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T GET THE FUCK UP HERE TO MEQUON WITHIN 15 FUCKING
>MINITS, YOU CAN FORGET ASBOUT THE WHOLE BRITTENY SPEARS THING!!!!!
>
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>
>whendee wrote:
>
>Well i just thought i would help enlighten you guys a little more
>check this out
>http://www.people.virginia.edu/~oml7s/wesley/wesley.html
>
>Whendee
>
>

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BADGERS?
BADGERS!?!
WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING BADGERS!

And that's what I think.
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>sometimes it takes 'em a few tries to get it right.


who's next... ah gigi!

you ready, are you siked?!

1... 2... 3...


tres
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>Hey, for those who went to Forever After; who saw the two todlers running
>around with glowsicks?  They were twirling their little glowsticks around
>during the Kickinbeats set, but I also saw them various other times
>throughout the weekend.  I must admit, it was pretty cute.  If I were a
>parent, I'm not sure if I would expose my children to raves at that young
>an age, but that's just my opinion. 
>

Well, my honey will be at ID with our child, who is about 4 months old (still in the womb). I hope she is up to camping the whole weekend. I think personally think raves would be great for kids if they had jungle gyms, and moonbouncers, and giant bubbles (look for these at ID), and instead of drugs, everyone would be high on sugar from all the candy. Instead, the only choice for most kids is a romp at some commercial-ass joint like Chuck E. Cheese or DisneyWorld. My kids will never watch a Disney movie or possess a Disney brand object, not while I'm alive. I know kids who are addicted to that Disney crap.

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My favorite combo is BanginHouse

BanginTechno+HardHouse=BanginHouse:)




>Actually, I've heard someone spin in a really nice booty track into some
>hard acid trance... it sounded bad as all hell.
>
>> 
>> some just dont work...
>> ever heard of booty trance? or how about disco jungle?
>> 
>> 					-sean
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whendee mesich wrote:

> Its nice to know that wesley can turn you on to water sports...
> but honey your supposed to have somebody else there...
> so what do you think ...should we invite him to WW2?
>
> "I love you like a milkshake" --wesley willis
>
> whendee

ROT-motherfucking-F-fucking-L!!!!!!!!!!

i'm fucking ON IT!!!!!

i'm callin up fanjo right fucnking NOW!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaaHA!!

can you trak wesley down for us?

"You are so pretty in the mix"

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I can try and track him down...but i am not responsible for his actions and 
I AM NOT going to wrestle with him maybe you and .com  could tag team?

trying to find wesley

whendee

>can you trak wesley down for us?
>
>"You are so pretty in the mix"
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whendee mesich wrote:

> I can try and track him down...but i am not responsible for his
> actions and
> I AM NOT going to wrestle with him maybe you and .com  could tag team?
>
> trying to find wesley
>
> whendee

I'M not gonna wrassle dood EITHER!!! no fuckin way!

TRUNK says he'll take anyone, heh heh! let HIM wrassle wesley!

i bet he'd write a song about the evening.

i bet he'd write a BUNCHA songs!

yeeeeee-ah!


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Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:45:32 -0500
From: Omega Variant <senorlululalo@juno.com>

>God damn!  If you could get her to projectile vomit on command you'd have
>a veritable marketing juggernaut.
>Think of all the sick, twisted fucks (like myself) that would pay $$$ to
>see your beloved pipi toss it-three times no less!

bwahahaha!  send it in to  justmeat.com

or goregallery.com

tho i think both of them prefer rotten stinky dead people who have either
jumped off buildings and exploded, been hit by trains, or blew a hole in
their heads...

yummy!

-prasad


>>our bastard cat pipi reels right to the middle of my room and 
>>projectile
>>vomits (i'm talkin three feet er so, not bad fer a cat) not once, but
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<snip>

> ever heard of booty trance?

My god man, I hope noone EVER comes out with that shite and I actually
DO like trance.

Peace and love,

Mike aka Dr. Blasé
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In a message dated 9/1/99 11:36:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, defunkt@hoam.net 
writes:

<< all the ghetto kids were either big eye'ing ron jerey or just
 plain too fucked up to figure out wut to do.   >>

hMmMMmm...so we r all ghetto kidz that r jus too phukt up ta kno wat ta 
do....well considering we hav absolutely NO happy hardcore in detroit, yes, 
we were amazed and awed an most of uz r nawt used ta dancing ta hhc.But u giv 
uz sum good ol house,jungle, or *detroit** techno an u shall c all tha 
"ghetto kidz" tearin tha floor up

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They've invaded my town again.

I hate them.

Drunken ass fools.  They can't hold a candle to the DRUNKEN MASTERS=81!

Has this happened to any of the other old members of the list?  Lets=20
compare methods of discouragement.  Methods of driving the fools=20
away.  I personally use piss and profanity.  Anyone else have a good=20
method?
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Ok....now....you know that journey that you are desperately longing to take 
when you are feelin a groove but at some point you just don't seem to "break 
through"?  Well...can I just say that today I found the groove I've been 
hoping to find all my life.  (sorry if this sounds corny...but it's such an 
awesome feeling for me right now!)

So...while in the midst of a 13-hour day at work, I decide to listen to 
Spree/Tilz's No Boundaries off Craig's website.   HOLY FUCKING 
SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Craig...all the best to you and may you just keep 
rising!  How long have you been spinning?  Your set is SO incredible...the 
mixing is on (but of course we knew it would be) but your programming and 
overall feel for controlling the energy of your set was absolutely 
BRILLIANT!!!  I definitely would like to request a tracklist!!!!!!

People at work kept looking at me cause I could NOT be still.  :P  I 
wouldn't call myself jaded, just "old enough" to not have known exactly what 
the hardcore sound (especially related to Trance in the fusion of 
Freeform/Trancecore) was all about.  OMG!!!!!!!!!!  I still get chills when 
I listen to it (which I'm doin right now.)

To Spree and any other Trancecore jocks on the list....could you throw any 
and all labels and producers that are Freeform/Trancecore at me????  I feel 
like a monk who's finally found his calling.  Hehehehe....I had NO idea how 
spiritual, emotional and most of all INCREDIBLE this genre was!!!!!!!!!!!!

Craig...again, I cannot stress enough how WELL PROGRAMMED your set is!  You 
grab the listener's attention and just do NOT let go!  In my opinion, 
programming is the most important part of a DJ's job.  Even if a jock isn't 
the best beat-mixer in the world...if he/she can feed off the crowd's energy 
and keep them on the journey....mission accomplished!  I particularly love 
your use of dissonance with your progressions....INCREDIBLE....it's like 
screaming to us,"and if you thought THAT was the limit...let's take it one 
step further!"

Dude...excellent set!!!!!!

Best wishes to all.

Love,

Bop

PS - and yes, it's kinda embarassing to admit...but I started listening to 
Spree's side of the tape and have yet to listen to Tilz...I'm still 
enraptured with Craig's!

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On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 ac5861@wayne.edu wrote:
> Well if you all are asking about the security breach that was publicized
> on tuesday it was one of my co-workers who discovered this. His name is
> Todd Bracken and my man knows some shit. Five minutes after he sent the
> e-mail to msn the hotmail servers were shut down. How about that for fast
> actin mofo's. Not to brag just thought that todd should get some props,
> you know how gates and the rest of the cronies at microsoft are.  cool,

Actually, not to be a bitch, but that hole was known in the underground
for about 8 weeks.  The acknowledgement is generally given to "Hackers
Unite", a hereto unknown group.

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November 13th in Louisville, KY

LOUiPiMPS Records and Garage Productions proudly presents " VARIABLE 02 -
Record Release Party "
Featuring many first time midwest performances from some of the LPS artists
featured on Variable 02.

Moonbuggy
live experimental techno pa
Birmingham, AL

Advancer
live techstep pa
Biloxi, MS

Breastfed
live techno/trance pa
Manhatten, NY

Timmy Static
house (da bangin' shit)
Elizabeth, NJ

Radianation
live eclectech pa
Louisville, KY

DJ Booth
speed garage
Louisville, KY

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> >Hey, for those who went to Forever After; who saw the two todlers running
> >around with glowsicks?  They were twirling their little glowsticks around
> >during the Kickinbeats set, but I also saw them various other times
> >throughout the weekend.  I must admit, it was pretty cute.  If I were a
> >parent, I'm not sure if I would expose my children to raves at that young
> >an age, but that's just my opinion. 
> >
> 
Yeah, I met those parents. But the kids were fucking awesome! I got to
share watermelon and suckers with them and hang with them and stuff. Good
rowdy kids who liked to dance and smile.

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I think it depends on the parents... if they at least stay sober in shifts 
or tottally... i mean which is worse...drunken football/baseball/indy car 
races/sober disney or hanging around a sub culture...i defiantly will take 
my kids(when i have them) to parties ...probally not furthurs...but things 
along the line of ID ... though i wonder could MEAT help a shy kid out of 
thier shell hmmmm?

whendee

p.S. did anyone meet the baby at furthur and lil furthur her name is Solja 
(her parents are venders and i think do the gathering routes) she is one of 
the most amazing 7 month old children i have ever met.
>
> > >Hey, for those who went to Forever After; who saw the two todlers 
>running
> > >around with glowsicks?  They were twirling their little glowsticks 
>around
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> > >throughout the weekend.  I must admit, it was pretty cute.  If I were a
> > >parent, I'm not sure if I would expose my children to raves at that 
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> > >an age, but that's just my opinion.
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my friend just sent me this and with all this talk of kids thought i would 
share...plus i needed a laugh and figured yall did too


>Children's book titles that just didn't make it-
>
>1. You are different and that's bad.
>2. The boy who died from eating all his vegetables
>3. Dad's new wife Robert.
>4. Fun four-letter words to know and share
>5. Hammers, screwdrivers and scissors: an i-can-do-it book
>6. the kids' guide to hitch-hiking
>7. kathy was so bad her mom stopped loving her
>8. curious george and the high-voltage fence
>9. all cats go to hell
>10. the little sissy who snitched
>11. some kittens can fly.
>12. thats it! i'm putting you up for adoption.
>13. grandpa gets a casket
>14. garfield gets feline leukemia
>16. the pop-up book of human anatomy
>15 (damn- i'm copying this off of a print out) the magic world inside
>the abandoned refrigerator
>17. strangers have the best candy.
>18. whining, kicking and crying to get your way.
>19. you were an accident
>20. things rich kids have, but you never will
>21. pop! goes the hamster... and other great microwave games
>22. the man in the moon is actually satan
>23. your nightmares are real.
>24. where would you like to be buried?
>25. eggs, toilet paper and your school
>26. why can't mr. forl and ms. electrical outlet be friends?
>27. places where mommy and daddy hide neat things
>28. daddy drinks because you cry.
>29. bi-curious george.
>30. fox in deto
>x
>woops.
>31. when it rains, the angels are crying and it was probably something
>you did.
>
>there.
>have great days.
>katie
>
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Who be dis Wesley guy?

Ain't no matta, `im goan die......



--- Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:

> TRUNK says he'll take anyone, heh heh! let HIM wrassle
> wesley!
> 
> i bet he'd write a song about the evening.
> 
> i bet he'd write a BUNCHA songs!

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PlasTicPortal wrote:

> Now it's really too bad when they have to bring up the drug issue before
> the fact.  We still don't know if the driver of the vehicle was intoxicated
> or not. Even if she was, maybe she was just reaching over to grab a tape or
> something and didn't see the curb, who knows...

i sold some tickets to a kid on Tuesday who met these people who died.  he said
all 5 were rolling pretty good.the drug tests come back in two to three weeks.
also, if i am not mistaken, i do believe that they have to test for e to find
it.  they might not find it in a normal drug screen.  who knows.
i could totally see this happening tho...
you are rolling...
you got the window down..
morning breeze in your face....
all is good...
the tape you are listening to is goood
you close your eyes
everyone else's eyes are closed....
then you feel like you are flying...
you open your eyes..
then scream holy shit as you fall to your death.
by the way, that road has no curbs at all..
the first jujubeats was in the same location.
because of this fiasco, the labor day massive got it's permits pulled cuz the
promoter couldn't guarantee that the crowd will be 18+
the county pulled his permits.....
and after that, he ended up making appearances on local tv, whining and crying.
if he finds another location, it will be a miracle.
this all sucks cuz i have been answering the phone all day fucking long giving
people the low down on this party......and it is getting rather tiresome.
oh well......
on a better note, this just mark the end of the massive once a month party
schedule that has been going on for the past couple years, each one raising the
price for the same fucking line up.
it can very well force la promoters and what not to be a lot more low key and not
so fucking media hungry.
so this all could end up being for the good.



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Again...imagine our bud, Wesley "Big" Willis Style doing this song...

Brittney Spears

Brittney Spears was on that show on the Disney Channel
That guy in Nsync was on the same show too
Britney spears is loved by millions
I wonder if Christina Agluera (sic) is loved too

Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears

Brittney Spears had breast implants
Or at least thats what some people say
Who cares because Brittney Spears can sing
But what ever happened to Ginger Spice

Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears

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In a message dated 9/1/99 7:56:14 PM Central Daylight Time, 
arnoarr4@milwpc.com writes:

<< i bet he'd write a song about the evening.
 
 i bet he'd write a BUNCHA songs!
 
 yeeeeee-ah!
  >>
He'll write an entire album!!


Raves

I've never been to a rave
I went one day
The music was loud
It kicked monkey ass

I love raves
I love raves
I love raves
I love raves

I went to a rave
There were many kids there
I danced 
Raves kick monkey ass

I love raves
I love raves
I love raves
I love raves

The music was loud at this rave
I was happy and I dance
I went home because I was tired
Raves kick monkey ass

I love raves
I love raves
I love raves
I love raves

Rock over arnoar, rock over nakedgirl
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must find wesley must find wesley must find wesley
i am doing my best :)

>From: PHILFART@aol.com
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>Subject: Re: [mw] Re: GODDAMM YOU PHIL AND WENDY!!!!!!
>Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:43:28 EDT
>
>In a message dated 9/1/99 7:56:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
>arnoarr4@milwpc.com writes:
>
><< i bet he'd write a song about the evening.
>
>  i bet he'd write a BUNCHA songs!
>
>  yeeeeee-ah!
>   >>
>He'll write an entire album!!
>
>
>Raves
>
>I've never been to a rave
>I went one day
>The music was loud
>It kicked monkey ass
>
>I love raves
>I love raves
>I love raves
>I love raves
>
>I went to a rave
>There were many kids there
>I danced
>Raves kick monkey ass
>
>I love raves
>I love raves
>I love raves
>I love raves
>
>The music was loud at this rave
>I was happy and I dance
>I went home because I was tired
>Raves kick monkey ass
>
>I love raves
>I love raves
>I love raves
>I love raves
>
>Rock over arnoar, rock over nakedgirl
>MW-ravers just don't want to understand

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Or how about Jump-ambient?  (or Abient-up)

hee

On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 dani2@mindspring.com wrote:

> My favorite combo is BanginHouse
> 
> BanginTechno+HardHouse=BanginHouse:)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Actually, I've heard someone spin in a really nice booty track into some
> >hard acid trance... it sounded bad as all hell.
> >
> >> 
> >> some just dont work...
> >> ever heard of booty trance? or how about disco jungle?
> >> 
> >> 					-sean
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Hello folks, 
  i was wondering if there was anyone from the St. Louis area on the list 
that is going to go to ID this weekend. If so, I can help to pay for your 
gas, and there might be a little something extra special in it for you as 
well. =)
Let me know if anyone has room......

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Wow, this week has been just one huge clash of culture.  I got back from
Forever After Sunday afternoon and had to move into my new dorm.  Sudenly I
go from a fairground full of ravers to a dorm full drunken overweight
college students... I guess that's the price I pay for education :/  =20

Hey are there any other rave types out there who go to the University of
River Falls?  If you don't know where that is, don't feel bad.  Maybe I'm
just too anti-social, but it seems like I'm the only one around here.
Prove me wrong!!!

Ryan

>They've invaded my town again.
>
>I hate them.
>
>Drunken ass fools.  They can't hold a candle to the DRUNKEN MASTERS=81!
>
>Has this happened to any of the other old members of the list?  Lets=20
>compare methods of discouragement.  Methods of driving the fools=20
>away.  I personally use piss and profanity.  Anyone else have a good=20
>method?
>jaypee
>Drunken Masters
>Dj's and Audio Annihilationists
>ICQ:  2147740
>
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spacemoose does it once again...

http://www.spacemoose.com/strips/moosecat.jpg

--
--------------+ one man's fish is another man's poisson +--------------
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To see the Rave On bumper, click on the blue text
 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/GlowLites/RAVEON.html">RAVE ON 
bumpersticker</A>
( http://members.aol.com/GlowLites/RAVEON.html )


'RAVE ON ' BUMPER STICKERS $ 3.00 EACH.
Order your " RAVE ON " Stickers
by mailing a self addressed and postage paid envelope a long with payment for 
the bumper sticker. Each "RAVE ON" bumper sticker is $ 3.00. 
(MONEY ORDER ONLY) Please put enough postage on the envelope. 
NOTE : PLEASE USE A BIG ENVELOPE SO THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO BEND THE BUMPER 
STICKERS. 

Mail to :
Rave On Bumper Stickers
2029 lakebreeze way
Reston, VA 20191

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>Brittney Spears
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>Brittney Spears was on that show on the Disney Channel
>That guy in Nsync was on the same show too
>Britney spears is loved by millions
>I wonder if Christina Agluera (sic) is loved too

ok look phil... no disrespect here, just a littl critique:

if you don't say something about rockin' like a magic kiss or whoopin' the
horse's ass, you're not really writing a wesley willis song.

chris

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>'RAVE ON ' BUMPER STICKERS $ 3.00 EACH.
>Order your " RAVE ON " Stickers
>by mailing a self addressed and postage paid envelope a long with payment
for 
>the bumper sticker. Each "RAVE ON" bumper sticker is $ 3.00. 
>(MONEY ORDER ONLY) Please put enough postage on the envelope. 
>NOTE : PLEASE USE A BIG ENVELOPE SO THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO BEND THE BUMPER 
>STICKERS. 

DUDE WHAT A FUCKIN DEAL!

I WILL BUY 50 OF THEM AND THEN RESELL THEM FOR $7 A PIECE AT PARTIES!

WERD!

MONEY CHRIS

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In a message dated 9/2/99 1:02:08 AM Central Daylight Time, 
crege@students.wisc.edu writes:
 
 I WILL BUY 50 OF THEM AND THEN RESELL THEM FOR $7 A PIECE AT PARTIES! >>

Sad thing is..  if Money Chris actually did this, he really could make a 
hauling.  Leave it to ravers to pay $30 for a pill and $7 for a bumpersticker.

Jen Sixt-E-bus

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Just sell them $40 bags of oregano.  Just tell them it's some really =
killer
"Roman Red".
It may not drive them away, but these freshman come to school with =
loads of
money and no sense.  You might as well benefit from that.

	-Chris Wundram

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They've invaded my town again.

I hate them.

Drunken ass fools.  They can't hold a candle to the DRUNKEN MASTERS=81!

Has this happened to any of the other old members of the list?  Lets=20
compare methods of discouragement.  Methods of driving the fools=20
away.  I personally use piss and profanity.  Anyone else have a good=20
method?
jaypee
Drunken Masters
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Anyone that is going to SOundStorm in Cleveland on Sept 18th
let me know.. i will make a net meet thing.. party hard and dont forget your
glowsticks.
bahaha doris :P

for more info go to
http://members.home.net/djgruve    <-- Full Spectrum

peave,
mike


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a poem, written by <A HREF="mailto:okiiyama@aol.cometodaddy 
">okiiyama@aol.cometodaddy </A> , i got from the alt.rave newsgroup. Just 
thought I would share the good vibe I got from reading it!

A laser pierces through the atmospheric fog
then like a reaction another slices through the air
beams of red, blue and green, scan over the crowd
scanning, scanning, searching?
slowly inching over the noise of cheering, whistling, and claping
a steady tick
tick....tick..tick.tick.tick.....tick....tick..tick.tick.tick....
another sound slowly emerges from the darkness
a long low and dark note floating easily through the atmosphere
vibrations are felt and people waiting anxiously for what is to come
another rythym a bit more noticeable than the first
ch.chew....ch.chew...ch.chew...ch.chew....ch.chew
feet begin to move, arms start to float up from the sides
more fog is thrown in the crowd
the lasers align themselves and wait
the vibrations are becoming more intense as the bass seems to get louder
Whistles within the crowd are begining their own patterns
A light flashes
but only for a second 
the lasers begin to move again with a new drum beat
THis time more bass is present 
Slowing like a reptile crawling from underneath a rock,
a melody is being interjected
another light flashes
a loud explosion
another light flashes
whisltes surround the atmosphere with laughter
The bass and the beats are louder than ever
again the melody rises
a drum roll
another flash
a split second break
then
at once, together, unified as one
the music, the lasers, the lights, the crowd
begin
...it is only the beginning

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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:52:54 -0500
From: jaypee <pittsj@post.uwstout.edu>

>They've invaded my town again.

move ins are underway here too.  streets closed off, traffic, no
parking...

>I hate them.

live off campus.

>Has this happened to any of the other old members of the list?  Lets=20
>compare methods of discouragement.  Methods of driving the fools=20
>away.

run them off the road.

i live in ann arbor and believe me it can be done!  don't be afraid to
sideswipe that minivan-mom or jogger coz believe me they'll back the fuck
up when they see a ton of steel heading str8 at em.  it's hella easier for
them to get out of my way than for me to get out of theirs.

fuck pedestrians.

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--- acidiz <acidiz@columbus.rr.com> wrote:

> acidiz has reserved some virtual crack rock for you!

Not this again.....

I think I found this site almost a year ago.
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whoever can help me....that would be great.

I'm working on a music video for Naughty By Nature...and I need to
research 20 years of hip hop history in a couple of days. I need a list of
anyone worthy of making a cameo (so, that means...no dead people, because
that's already taken care of).

I need a make a list of anyone and everyone from grandmaster flash to
vanilla ice to rza to erykah badu to ANYONE! eAST cOAST-wEST cOAST-I JUST
NEED THE NAMES OF LIVING AND BREATHING PEOPLE!

We're shooting next week in New York City and Los Angeles. So, I need this
list before the weekend is over. Please, please, please...e-mail ME
PRIVATELY.

june (juneau@nwu.edu)

june nho
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return to chicago: september 13th
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Brittney Spears

Brittney Spears was on that show on the Disney Channel
That guy in Nsync was on the same show too
Britney spears is loved by millions
She whoops a horse's ass

Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears

Brittney Spears had breast implants
Or at least thats what some people say
But what ever happened to Ginger Spice
She whoops a horse's ass

Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears
Brittney Spears

Rock over London. Rock over Hixton, Wisconsin
A man had his whole left side of  his body amputated...that's okay. He'll be 
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In a message dated 9/2/99, 12:44:02 AM, kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu writes:
<<Or how about Jump-ambient?  (or Abient-up)
>>

Illbient...whycan't there be more illbient in themid west.

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I thought they were kinda cute dancing to happy hardcore, but i have to 
ask...couldn't their hearing be damaged by standing 5 feet from a large 
speaker stack for an hour or 2??  I'm not really up on how sensitive 3 year 
old's hearing is, but it can't be healthy for them..

anybody with any concrete information??

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|--- Original Message ---
|From: "DJ Storm ." <djstorm23@hotmail.com>
|To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
|Date: 9/2/99 1:39:19 PM
|

|I thought they were kinda cute dancing to happy hardcore, but
i have to 
|ask...couldn't their hearing be damaged by standing 5 feet from
a large 
|speaker stack for an hour or 2??  I'm not really up on how sensitive
3 year 
|old's hearing is, but it can't be healthy for them..
|
|anybody with any concrete information??
|

I don't have any concrete info on the subject but I do have a
3 year old son and I try to protect his hearing because I know
what the loud music has done to his dad's hearing. :)  My son
likes music but i always turn it down so that it isn't blasting
in his ears.

PS - My son likes house and jungle.  That's what he dances to.
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You are right...but i knew a little boy whose dad spun hardcore and the dad 
would just give him earplugs and his hearing seemed fine...moderation once 
again is probaly the key


>
>I thought they were kinda cute dancing to happy hardcore, but i have to
>ask...couldn't their hearing be damaged by standing 5 feet from a large
>speaker stack for an hour or 2??  I'm not really up on how sensitive 3 year
>old's hearing is, but it can't be healthy for them..
>
>anybody with any concrete information??
>
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>>>so this all could end up being for the good.



whoa...five people dying isn't a good thing in any way

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When is the wrastlin match.  My stumpy lil ass wants some of whoeva!
-Stumpwrestlemaniaman

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>
> Ain't no matta, `im goan die......
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> > TRUNK says he'll take anyone, heh heh! let HIM wrassle
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 02 15:42:52 1999
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Hey everyone :-)

I'll give copies of all 3 of the new tapes that Tilzs and I did to anyone 
that can help me out with this.

Doris (non-woo) Payer just emailed me and she REALLY needs a ride HOME from 
ID on Sunday. She needs to get back to DETROIT. SO, if you are leaving ID on 
Sunday headed for the Detroit Area, Doris could really use your help, and 
I'll hook you up with some free music in return :-) (I'm sure Doris would 
help with gas too, she's cool :-)) Please email me at xotis@hotmail.com or 
Doris at dpayer@umich.edu

Thanks!! :-)

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I would pay a $100 for E! NO, I'D PAY A MILLION DOLLARS!

Matt

P.S. I'm all for $50 bumper stickers.

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/2/99 1:02:08 AM Central Daylight Time, 
> crege@students.wisc.edu writes:
>  
>  I WILL BUY 50 OF THEM AND THEN RESELL THEM FOR $7 A PIECE AT PARTIES! >>
> 
> Sad thing is..  if Money Chris actually did this, he really could make a 
> hauling.  Leave it to ravers to pay $30 for a pill and $7 for a bumpersticker.
> 
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speaking of doris non-woo...
is doris non-non-woo still on the list?

might not need to specify anymore :(

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ah, but the effects on the scene here in Los Angeles can be a good
thing.
if history repeats itself, we are going to now see less and less
massive, overpriced events here because of all the media attention. the
cops will not put up with large scale parties, and find any excuse to
shut them down for the next few months.
more and more smaller and lower priced clubs/parties will start to
happen with less media attention.
i may be wrong, but we have been through this nonsense before, and it
seems we are going to go through it again.

Paul Doyle wrote:

> >>>so this all could end up being for the good.
>
> whoa...five people dying isn't a good thing in any way
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...men / women / other

we are taking the subkulture sound system to interstellar dreamfest this
weekend and have a few open timeslots to fill.  so if you are going,
interested in playing and are not a practicing christian who spins any
one or all of the following styles email me back before late thursday
night (tonight!):

hardcore
noise
techstep
broken beats
goa
hard trance
epic trance
bangin techno
acid
electro

(basically anything but house, progressive anystyle, jump up, and
absolutely no hip hop)

you might want to call 414-224-5343 and leave a message instead of
sending an email since it is kind of late for this request.

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Last fall I was at the Fireside Bowl in Chicago
for a Blonde Redhead/ Quixotic show.
While I was in the bathroom stall relieving myself, 
who should bust open the door but all 
6'6", 300lbs of Wesley Willis.  
He just looked at me, shut the door, and walked away.

Even though the whole experience lasted no longer
than 3 seconds, I haven't been the same ever since.

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true nuff... detroit kids come to get down.

On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 FuNkEgRuvZ@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/1/99 11:36:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, defunkt@hoam.net 
> writes:
> 
> << all the ghetto kids were either big eye'ing ron jerey or just
>  plain too fucked up to figure out wut to do.   >>
> 
> hMmMMmm...so we r all ghetto kidz that r jus too phukt up ta kno wat ta 
> do....well considering we hav absolutely NO happy hardcore in detroit, yes, 
> we were amazed and awed an most of uz r nawt used ta dancing ta hhc.But u giv 
> uz sum good ol house,jungle, or *detroit** techno an u shall c all tha 
> "ghetto kidz" tearin tha floor up
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8 weeks??
muahahahahaha
yeah right.

					-siezer



On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, atomly wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 ac5861@wayne.edu wrote:
> > Well if you all are asking about the security breach that was publicized
> > on tuesday it was one of my co-workers who discovered this. His name is
> > Todd Bracken and my man knows some shit. Five minutes after he sent the
> > e-mail to msn the hotmail servers were shut down. How about that for fast
> > actin mofo's. Not to brag just thought that todd should get some props,
> > you know how gates and the rest of the cronies at microsoft are.  cool,
> 
> Actually, not to be a bitch, but that hole was known in the underground
> for about 8 weeks.  The acknowledgement is generally given to "Hackers
> Unite", a hereto unknown group.
> 
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thats funny... free kevin stickers are like $1 a peice and they still made
enough money to put most of the dollar into his defence fund



On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:

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>  
>  I WILL BUY 50 OF THEM AND THEN RESELL THEM FOR $7 A PIECE AT PARTIES! >>
> 
> Sad thing is..  if Money Chris actually did this, he really could make a 
> hauling.  Leave it to ravers to pay $30 for a pill and $7 for a bumpersticker.
> 
> Jen Sixt-E-bus
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i got my tapes in the mail... they aint to bad.
not to bad at all.



On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, . craig/spree . wrote:

> Hey everyone :-)
> 
> I'll give copies of all 3 of the new tapes that Tilzs and I did to anyone 
> that can help me out with this.
> 
> Doris (non-woo) Payer just emailed me and she REALLY needs a ride HOME from 
> ID on Sunday. She needs to get back to DETROIT. SO, if you are leaving ID on 
> Sunday headed for the Detroit Area, Doris could really use your help, and 
> I'll hook you up with some free music in return :-) (I'm sure Doris would 
> help with gas too, she's cool :-)) Please email me at xotis@hotmail.com or 
> Doris at dpayer@umich.edu
> 
> Thanks!! :-)
> 
> -Craig/Spree
> PS: Don't worry, she'll be back on the list soon :-)
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First off,hello everybody this is Paul Johnson. I hope everyone is well..       
            Now, to the person speaking so negatively about get get down. Did 
you ever stop to think that I made this track so simple because I wanted to? 
Also, the plan was to make a record that the whole world would dance to (I 
did that). I also wanted to make a crossover track that could be played in 
clubs as well as the radio and television,  (I did that). Also If you were a 
follower of me, you would see that out of the 54 records I put out this had 
to be planned. The video has been shot ,MTV and the BOX are both running it. 
And there are six different remix records of it circulating  world wide, It's 
number one in three countries and on the billboard dance charts. To be honest 
with you,this track is the shit and highly respected by my peers and the 
industry,so I feel you should find another track to pick on right now,Because 
you look pretty ridiculous picking on this one....  Thankyou for your 
time,Peace and Love... Paul J.  

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>They've invaded my town again.
>
>move ins are underway here too.  streets closed off, traffic, no
>parking...
>
> >I hate them.
>
>live off campus.
>
> >Has this happened to any of the other old members of the list?  Lets=20
> >compare methods of discouragement.  Methods of driving the fools=20
> >away.
>
>run them off the road.
>
>i live in ann arbor and believe me it can be done!  don't be afraid to
>sideswipe that minivan-mom or jogger coz believe me they'll back the fuck
>up when they see a ton of steel heading str8 at em.  it's hella easier for
>them to get out of my way than for me to get out of theirs.
>
>fuck pedestrians.
>
>-P
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Ok, do a lot of peeps on this list go to U of M?  I go to EMU...just thought 
maybe I'd get to know some of ya.

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okay....i wanta kno who tha fugg wuld ever dare ripp on tha masta paul 
johnson an hiz amazing trak Get GEt Down. i swear, sum kidz wouldn kno skillz 
if thay were slapt in tha face wiff um

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and we thought Ebonics went out in 98  

Ha


FuNkEgRuvZ writes:

> okay....i wanta kno who tha fugg wuld ever dare ripp on tha masta paul 
>  johnson an hiz amazing trak Get GEt Down. i swear, sum kidz wouldn kno 
> skillz 
>  if thay were slapt in tha face wiff um
>  

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<<  i swear, sum kidz wouldn kno skillz  if thay were slapt in tha face wiff 
um >>

-ummm I TOTALLY AGREE... and I think you are one of them!


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damn..i'm too late!!!

I was going to reply to that!

(sigh)

well for the record...

wut the f*(k iz dat?!$@!$%



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>First off,hello everybody this is Paul Johnson. I hope everyone is well..
     
>            Now, to the person speaking so negatively about get get down.
Did 
>you ever stop to think that I made this track so simple because I wanted to? 
>Also, the plan was to make a record that the whole world would dance to (I 
>did that). I also wanted to make a crossover track that could be played in 
>clubs as well as the radio and television,  (I did that). Also If you were a 
>follower of me, you would see that out of the 54 records I put out this had 
>to be planned. The video has been shot ,MTV and the BOX are both running it. 
>And there are six different remix records of it circulating  world wide,
It's 
>number one in three countries and on the billboard dance charts. To be
honest 
>with you,this track is the shit and highly respected by my peers and the 
>industry,so I feel you should find another track to pick on right
now,Because 
>you look pretty ridiculous picking on this one....  Thankyou for your 
>time,Peace and Love... Paul J.  

jesus paul... I don't know what this track is that you're trying so hard to
defend, but as one of the more prominent figures in house music I think
you'd have learned to accept some criticizm by now.  I'm sure not all of
your 54 records (or whatever) have recieved universally positive reviews.
So why does this one small complaint from someone on the mw-raves list
bother you?  I mean, after all, as highly as we may think of ourselves,
mw-raves list people really don't have a whole lot of pull in the rave
scene as a whole.  this one thing is not the difference between your career
sinking or swimming.  So why so defensive?  It seems to me that you made a
crossover track (and remember i haven't heard this track, so i'm judging
solely on second-and info.) because there was some sort of lucrative offer
made... You're getting a lot of money for this, aren't you?  There's
absolutely nothing wrong with that.  But it seems from your response that
this track maybe pushed your concept of artistic integrity.  In other
words, you did it more of the money than because it was a track you loved,
and now you're maybe feeling a little bad about it.  And this post may be
an attempt to justify it to yourself as much as any other person. If this
was a track that you decided to release because it 100% fit some sort of
creative vision, you WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS DEFENSIVE.  the fact that you
are being so defensive, especially in such an ineffective forum, suggests
to me that you're not so happy artistically with the song.  I'm not trying
to make a point about mtv or selling out or anything... I have no problem
with a song being on MTV or the radio or whatever as long as the artist
felt the song was 100% worthy of release, not because some money was offered.

well anyway this is all just me guessing at second-hand information, but
i'm bored today so i thought i'd do it.

chris


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> jesus paul... I don't know what this track is that you're trying so hard to
> defend, but as one of the more prominent figures in house music I think
> you'd have learned to accept some criticizm by now.  

I dunno, if someone has the right to slam on the track, then I don't see
why Paul shouldn't have the right to stand up and explain where he's
comin' from with the track.  Personally I didn't enjoy the track as much
as many other that I've heard from him, (mostly becuz it's more clubby
than what I enjoy) but i can still see the thought put into the track and
respect it for that.

> I mean, after all, as highly as we may think of ourselves,
> mw-raves list people really don't have a whole lot of pull in the rave
> scene as a whole. 

 Maybe YOU don't, but when I talk... somebody listened once!

> this track maybe pushed your concept of artistic integrity.  In other
> words, you did it more of the money than because it was a track you loved,
> and now you're maybe feeling a little bad about it.  And this post may be
> an attempt to justify it to yourself as much as any other person. If this
> was a track that you decided to release because it 100% fit some sort of
> creative vision, you WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS DEFENSIVE.  

 Psychology Degrees, Psychology Degrees, get's yours now at the blue light
special department of WalMart!  (Sorry, I just couldn't help myself hee)


Have a super day alL!

Kale/DreamSequence


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the reason for the defense is because,no matter who you are when you do 
something that's considered crossover all of a sudden your called a sellout 
and if you are stuck in being underground all of your life,you pretty much 
don't have big goals for yourself. My goal has been to reach the world with 
my music and now that that has happened people feel betrayed in some way.. It 
just goes to show you work hard and motherfuckers still want more. You can't 
please everybody......                          Peace and Love to everyone  
Paul J.....

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if anyone in the immediate areas of CINCINNATI, LOUISVILLE, BLOOMINGTON
indiana, OR INDIANAPOLIS are going to interstellar dreamfest and have a
spot in their car, i would be forever grateful if you could pretty please
give me a ride...

i am semi-stuck in the area right now...and i COULD rent a car but i
REALLY dont have the money to dish out for that...especially since i am
already having to shell out money for a new starter and getting my car
towed to a place to get it fixed...funfun..=P

so if you are going through those general areas or are leaving from those
areas...i would REALLY appreciate it if you could gimme a ride....i will
pay gas money there and back...and give ya lotsa free water and sobes and
feed you too all weekend*  =)

peace
lauryn

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Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
 We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
 But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on. 
Any of your Internet Wizards or Hyperreal Staff know what I can
or where I can look?  Now he is back with a vengence and our
mail boxes are full of nasty ass shit.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 02 19:59:44 1999
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play up to his good side, make friends with him, find out where he lives and
then go to his house and whack his stoopid ass...works for me!

peace and love always,

PJ


( I should start my own dear PJ column )



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Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
 We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
 But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on. 
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or where I can look?  Now he is back with a vengence and our
mail boxes are full of nasty ass shit.

Thanks,

Toby

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 02 20:03:06 1999
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try and figure out who his isp is, and tell them.  Then he won't even
have internet access.  Maybe if you can find one of his old e-mails, you
can do a trace rt or an nslookup and find out where he is.  Or possibly,
e-groups would put his isp on their spam list if enough of you
complained.  Then he couldn't send to the group.
Stumpy

tmb4@prodigy.net wrote:

> Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
> wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
>  We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
> was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
>  But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on.
> Any of your Internet Wizards or Hyperreal Staff know what I can
> or where I can look?  Now he is back with a vengence and our
> mail boxes are full of nasty ass shit.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Toby
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ADAM BEYER and CARI LEKEBUSCH in *MINNEAPOLIS*... well ILL BE! mile high
at SURPRISE SURPRISE the roy wilkins auditorium september 18th... and then
september 21st is basement jaxx.. and then september 25th is the allied
substructure party... well ill be... i hope to meet some/all of you crazE
wackE partE kids from around here at one of these 3... and at this mile
high party.. ANDY C? HOT DAMN...  


your daddy,
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> Now it's really too bad when they have to bring up the drug issue before
> the fact.  We still don't know if the driver of the vehicle was
intoxicated
> or not. Even if she was, maybe she was just reaching over to grab a tape
or
> something and didn't see the curb, who knows...
>
> The article used the parents emotions to bias other's opinions about
raves.
>  I think if anything, this article demostrates parents ignorance when it
> comes to these parties.  Maybe it would be a good idea to expose children
> to raves as early as possible.  That way, when they get older they will be
> more mature about some of the illegal things that go on at raves.  It's
> sorta the same ideology that Europeans have when it comes to alcohol.
(God,
> I love Europe :D)

tragically in our society today everyone is looking for something simple to
blame and make them feel better. i play doom so i'm gonna go on a rampage
and kill 20 people, my parents didnt love me so i'm going to abuse my son.
pfffft. people need to learn in life there is no simple explanation.
in this instance a tragic accident gets turned around into raves corrupting
the youth of today. i tend to disagree, but thats another story....

but to come back to the issue at hand - blaming something simple is just an
easy cop-out.  dont do it, it's just not kewl. its called *ignorance*.

hrmph.

/me steps off the soapbox and goes back to werk.
PEACE
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ne one know of a cool site to download some free games for win nt?  I'm
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I think I tossed the info on the Allied Subculture party.  Would someone
be so kind as to forward me a line-up or info line pretty, pretty please
with a big ravey cherry on top.

jake


>and then september 25th is the 
>allied
>substructure party... well ill be... i
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think i recall her telling me she uns*bbed, but missed all the petty
bitching(lord knows I did when I did the same).

man that biergarten at Furthur sure did provide a super net-meat locale

I hope DJ Falcon's biergarten picture of fishead's distended nipple turned
out ok.  They just don't make nipples like that in France

				toastman


On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, .chad sponholz. wrote:

> speaking of doris non-woo...
> is doris non-non-woo still on the list?
> 
> might not need to specify anymore :(
> 
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> 
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http://www.nationalpost.com/network.asp?f=990902/69395
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On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Mark Walsh wrote:
> 8 weeks??
> muahahahahaha
> yeah right.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/306093.asp

MSNBC (owned by Microsoft, as is Hotmail) says it was open for eight
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step one would be to check with your ISP or to post your question to a
related newsgroup or mailing list...not mw-raves.
the net is vast. use your resources.
.
j

> Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
> wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
>  We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
> was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
>  But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on.
> Any of your Internet Wizards or Hyperreal Staff know what I can
> or where I can look?  Now he is back with a vengence and our
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step one would be to check with your ISP or to post your question to a
related newsgroup or mailing list...not mw-raves.
the net is vast. use your resources.
.
j

> Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
> wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
>  We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
> was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
>  But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on.
> Any of your Internet Wizards or Hyperreal Staff know what I can
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i don't think being "underground" prohibits a person from reaching the world
with their music.

there's a catch, though.

chad



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can someone please privately resend me the info kurt posted?

thanks in advance...

bom shankar!
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My apologies if this has already been posted. I'm on the digest so it takes me
longer to get stuff...

Saturday, September 25
Allied Substructure presents
ZODIAK
Return of the kick-ass medium sized warehouse party: Part 01

DJ Speedy & DJ Soulo (Las Vegas)
Dan X (Milwaukee)
Arjay Ketamine (Mpls)
Madkid (Mpls)
Fleak (Mpls)
Mr Science (Mpls)

Allied Substructure 612.909.6827
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:14:19 -0500
From: Omega Variant <senorlululalo@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] allied subculture ho-down.....info please!

I think I tossed the info on the Allied Subculture party.  Would someone
be so kind as to forward me a line-up or info line pretty, pretty please
with a big ravey cherry on top.

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whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
heres my list

1.speed freak
2.hyperactive
3.mike dearborn
4.acid junkies
5.hardfloor

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im sure hes posted this here before but Dj Storm has a kik ass trance set at

<A 
HREF="http://liverave.purerave.com/djstormp.ram">http://www.purerave.com/~djst
orm/sets.html</A> 

check it out


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> whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen

1) plastikman
2) autechre
3) hardfloor
4) prototype 909
5) ?


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>1.speed freak (never heard... replace with green velvet)
>2.hyperactive (umm... yea, definitely hyperactive(rain man voice))
>3.mike dearborn (umm... yea, specially if he uses some of his old djax 
>stuff)
>4.acid junkies (eh... esp woody mcbride)
>5.hardfloor (eh... let's try joey beltram)

those would be my faves...(in parenthesis)

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oh yea!  forgot plastikman... need him.  autechre would be nice too...

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Mine:
1 Rabbit in the Moon
2 Hardfloor
3 Funk D Void
4 Oliver Chesler
5 Woody McBride

<< whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
 heres my list
 1.speed freak
 2.hyperactive
 3.mike dearborn
 4.acid junkies
 5.hardfloor
 
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My favs(Danny):
1. GreenVelvet(tigh ass sheeyat)
2. DanBell(2x) cool little homemade filter box
3.Bak*Edit(me he he he) www.mp3.com/bipolar 
4.AkilahBryant (samples samples)
5.Spacelings and Bassheads(detroit) these guys fukkin rok!!(not anymore tho')


>whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
>heres my list
>
>1.speed freak
>2.hyperactive
>3.mike dearborn
>4.acid junkies
>5.hardfloor
>
>hypo
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Ha, I've been off the list for so long that I almost forgot the most
important pre-party formality! TELLING OTHERS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO WEAR!!

But then I thought. Holy shit, there's 4 days to cover, and I haven't even
packed yet. Should I really wear the same Nautica shirt every day so
people can identify me? Then I asked myself, do people really care? And
the answer was NO!!!! I've never met a goddamn person on this fucking list
except by random happenstance. So I'll see all you fuckers there. And
hopefully I'll get to MAKE YOUR EARS BLEED AT THE DROP BASS SYSTEM.

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WOOO HOO a link to my site!

www.alliedsubstrucure.com will be up in the next couple of weeks


>From: Tanya Swanson <tanya.swanson@sickoptic.com>
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>To: MW-Raves <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [mw] Zodiak in Mpls (9/25)
>Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:38:44 +0000
>
>My apologies if this has already been posted. I'm on the digest so it takes 
>me
>longer to get stuff...
>
>Saturday, September 25
>Allied Substructure presents
>ZODIAK
>Return of the kick-ass medium sized warehouse party: Part 01
>
>DJ Speedy & DJ Soulo (Las Vegas)
>Dan X (Milwaukee)
>Arjay Ketamine (Mpls)
>Madkid (Mpls)
>Fleak (Mpls)
>Mr Science (Mpls)
>
>Allied Substructure 612.909.6827
>Urban Guerilla: 651.257.7269
>
>For more information check Allied's website at
>
>http://members.xoom.com/FreakBoyMN/
>
>
>
>
>
>Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:14:19 -0500
>From: Omega Variant <senorlululalo@juno.com>
>Subject: Re: [mw] allied subculture ho-down.....info please!
>
>I think I tossed the info on the Allied Subculture party.  Would someone
>be so kind as to forward me a line-up or info line pretty, pretty please
>with a big ravey cherry on top.
>
>jake
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In a message dated 9/2/99 5:03:52 PM Central Daylight Time, 
dani2@mindspring.com writes:

<< whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
 >heres my list >>

1. Prophecy of Panic
2. Sky
3. Hyperactive
4. Delta 9
5. Rabbit in the Moon

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Or, have the list server email 10 copies of any public emails, straight to
any new email address that he gets.  Kinda hard to use freemail when every
time you log on, it's packed full.
Weee!

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> then go to his house and whack his stoopid ass...works for me!
> 
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> 
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> Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
> wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
>  We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
> was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
>  But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on. 
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> or where I can look?  Now he is back with a vengence and our
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Toby
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 02 22:44:07 1999
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He could still send through freemails though... they don't list isps of
individuals.  

Kale

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:

> try and figure out who his isp is, and tell them.  Then he won't even
> have internet access.  Maybe if you can find one of his old e-mails, you
> can do a trace rt or an nslookup and find out where he is.  Or possibly,
> e-groups would put his isp on their spam list if enough of you
> complained.  Then he couldn't send to the group.
> Stumpy
> 
> tmb4@prodigy.net wrote:
> 
> > Hey if anyone can hit me back on what to do about this?  I was
> > wondering how someone can take action and what the laws are?
> >  We have an email group, on e-groups, and we have a member who
> > was kicked off for harrasment in general and also sexual harrassment.
> >  But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on.
> > Any of your Internet Wizards or Hyperreal Staff know what I can
> > or where I can look?  Now he is back with a vengence and our
> > mail boxes are full of nasty ass shit.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 02 22:44:27 1999
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NO no... I just wish Keooooki would do live PAs... cuz... well... DAMN
he's kewl!


Kale/DreamSequence

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> Mine:
> 1 Rabbit in the Moon
> 2 Hardfloor
> 3 Funk D Void
> 4 Oliver Chesler
> 5 Woody McBride
> 
> << whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
>  heres my list
>  1.speed freak
>  2.hyperactive
>  3.mike dearborn
>  4.acid junkies
>  5.hardfloor
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>  hypo >>
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someone put some forever after pics up here, check them out some nice
photos here :)
http://www.velocitysolutions.com/forever_after_photos/
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you have seen speed freak do a live PA .. u sure bout that ?????

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1.DJ trance (Jason Blakemore)
2.Omar santana
3.GSM
4.Acid Enema
5.Camel Pimps

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 02 23:04:08 1999
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A few weeks ago I sent out a note about my friend Victor's new shop -
Hotwax in Covington (5 min from Cincinnati). I just wanted to thank
everyone for the great support given to Hot Wax in the first couple
weeks. It is doing way better than Victor ever imagined. This has
allowed him to keep pices low while still getting the best new stuff.
There are new orders every single week - without exception.

I have included a current stock list. As you can see - stuff is way
cheap. I don't know anywhere in the country you can regularly find
imports in the $8.00 - $9.50 range. Again, you can order via email
(hotwax@fuse.net) or via phone (606.261.8880). they will play you tracks
over the phone. Or you can visit the shop at 7 E 8th Street, Covington,
KY (right accross the river from Cincinnati - call for directions).
Hours are Mon - Sat 2:30 - 8:30. Again, thanks for the support.

Robert Curcio

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A Tribe Called Quest	The Low End Theory	Jive	CD	Hip-Hop	15.50
A Tribe Called Quest	The Love Movement	Jive	CD	Hip-Hop	16.10
A Tribe Called Quest	The Love Movement	Jive	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	19.13
A Tribe Called Quest	Check the Rhime / Award Tour	Jive	Vinyl	Hip-Hop
6.13
Aaron Carl	Soldier	SFP 	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Adam Beyer	Short Life E.P.	Drum Code	Vinyl	Techno	$8.39
Adam F	Colours	Astralwerks	CD	Drum & Bass	15.50
Afu-Ra	Defeat	Gee Street	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Airwave	Above the Sky	Bonzai	Vinyl	Trance	8.24
AK1200	Lock and Roll	Moonshine	CD	Drum & Bass	15.50
Alex J	Soul Theory	Nervous	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Ali	Love Letters	Poydor	Vinyl	House	9.99
All Blue	Prisoner	Warner Music	Vinyl	House	9.54
Altered States of Drum and Bass	Various Mixed by DJ Raymond Roker	OM	CD
Drum & Bass	15.95
Ambassador	The Fade	Platipus	Vinyl	Trance	8.74
An Der Beat	Funk	Minifunk	Vinyl	House	8.54
Andreas Bender	Storm EP	Clear Blue	Vinyl	House	8.74
Angel Alanis	Subconcious State of Techno	Contaminated	Vinyl	Techno
$11.99
Antonio	Azande 	Tribal Winds	Vinyl	House	$6.29
Aphex Twin	Selected Ambient Works 85-92	Distance	CD	Ambient	13.99
Aphex Twin	Classics	Distance	CD	Ambient	13.99
Aphrodite	Urban Jungle	Priority 	CD	Drum & Bass	15.12
Aphrodite	Royal	Aphrodite	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	9.04
Aquasky	Bulletproof	Moving Shadow	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.24
Armand Van Helden	2 Future 4 U	Armed	CD	House	15.50
Arsonists	Pyromaniax	Matador	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Art of Trance	Madagascar '99	Platipus	Vinyl	Trance	8.74
Arthur Baker vs. Rennie Pilgrem	Hey Fun	TCR	Vinyl	Breakbeat	$8.29
Atari Teenage Riot	60 Second Wipe Out	Digital Hardcore	CD	Industrial
4.99
B Boy 3000 & Oscar Da Grouch	Cracklab	N20	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	6.64
Banaczech	Zlin And Back	Partisan	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Barenaked Ladies	Stunt	Reprise	CD	Alternative	15.50
Baron Ricks	Rags to Riches	Soul Assassins	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	3.99
Basement Jaxx	Basement Jaxx E.P. 2	Atlantic Jaxx	Vinyl	House	$9.29
Basement Jaxx	Summer Days E.P.	Atlantic Jaxx	Vinyl	House	$8.99
Basement Jaxx	Fly Life E.P. 3	Atlantic Jaxx	Vinyl	House	$9.29
Basement Jaxx	Sleezy Cheeks	Atlantic Jaxx	Vinyl	House	$9.29
Basement Jaxx	Red Alert Remixes	Atlantic Jaxx	Vinyl	House	$6.69
Bateman	Wildlife On One	Wildlife	Vinyl	House	8.24
Beastie Boys	Paul's Boutique	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	17.99
Beastie Boys	Hello Nasty	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	16.49
Beastie Boys	The In Sound from Way Out!	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	7.99
Beastie Boys	Body Movin'	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Beastie Boys	The In Sound From Way Out	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	8.24
Beastie Boys	Scientists of Sound EP	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.64
Ben Long	Audio 16	Audio	Vinyl	Techno	8.49
 Benoit Bishop	Juice Sqeezer E.P.	Enjoy Records	Vinyl	House	$8.99
Big Bud	State of Mind/Transmission	Good Looking 	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	7.96
Big Dirty Beats 2	Various	Moonshine	CD	Breakbeat	15.50
Big L	We Got This	Flamboyant	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Big L	Ebonics	Flamboyant	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Bill Riley	Closing In	Protocall	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.54
Bjorn Torske	Sexy Disco	Svek	Vinyl	House	8.84
Black Attack	Rep Da R.L	Real Deal Recordings	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Black Eyed Peas	Karma	Interscope	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Black Moon	Unleashed Beats	Wreck 	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	7.08
Black Moon	I Got Cha Opin	Wreck 	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Black Onyx	Set Me Free	Basic Beat	Vinyl	Trance	8.84
Black Science Orchestra Part 1	Keep On	Tart	Vinyl	House	$8.59
Black Science Orchestra Part 2	Keep on	Tart	Vinyl	House	$8.59
Blahzay Blahzay	Federal Reserve	Game Recordings	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Blaze presents Funky People	Funky People	Urban	Vinyl	House	$8.49
Blu Belly Bandit	Disco Filtering Mode	Camouflage	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Bluegoose nVs Silverlining	Taken Over	Surreal	Vinyl	House	8.74
Bobby Bare	The Essential	RCA	CD	Country	15.12
Bobby Matos	Live at Moca	Ubiquity	CD	Jazz	15.95
Boo Williams	Fruits of The Spirit	3 to 5	Vinyl	House	3.99
Boogie Down Productions	Love's Gonna Getcha	Jive	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Boogie Down Productions	Jack of Spades	Jive	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
 Boogie Down Productions	My Philosoph	Jive	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Boom Bip & DJ Osiris	The Low End Sequence E.P.	Mush	Vinyl	Downtempo	3.99
Brand New Heavies	Brand New Heavies	Acid Jazz	Vinyl	Downtempo	12.24
Breakbeat Era	Ultra Obscene	XL	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.24
Bryan Zentz	Speaking In Numbers	Tronic	Vinyl	Techno	8.94
BSO Resarch	Stone Draggin EP	Hard Hands	Vinyl	Breakbeat	8.74
Buc Fifty	Dead End Street	Soul Assassins	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Buckshot, 5ft and Evil Dee	War Zone	Duck Down 	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Bumpy Knuckles	A Part of My Life	KJac	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Calico	The basic funk e.p.	Deep Touch	Vinyl	House	6.10
Canny	Walk My Way	Naive	Vinyl	Trance	8.74
Catella (Frank De Wulf)	Drums On A Roll	Music Man	Vinyl	Techno	9.04
Celeda	Be Yourself	Twisted	Vinyl	Trance	6.13
Chemical Brothers	Let Forever Be	Astralwerks	Vinyl	Downtempo	6.74
Chris Liebling	New Begining	CLR	Vinyl	Techno	8.74
Christian Vogel	General Arr	Tresor	Vinyl	Techno	8.24
Christina Aguilera	Self Titled	RCA	CD	Pop	15.50
Circulation	Limited 1	Sm:)e	Vinyl	Trance	$7.99
City Nord	Broken Glass	Critical Edge	Vinyl	Techno	$8.79
Classen Collective	Close To Greatness	JCR	Vinyl	House	7.96
coby	cv200		Merchandise		14.99
COBY Headphones	CV-200		Merchandise		14.99
Coldcut	Autum Leaves	Zen	Vinyl	Downtempo	$7.25
Coldcut , Dj Food and Dj Krush	Cold Krush Cuts	Ninja Tune	CD	Downtempo
18.15
Columbia Carina	Deep Flight	Defender	Vinyl	House	10.49
Columbus Confession 	HIStory E.P.  	DNH	Vinyl	House	$5.89
Common	Car Horn	Groove Attack	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	8.24
Common	One Nine Nine Nine	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Company Flow	Population Control	Official Recordings	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Company Flow	Little Johnny from the Hospital (Instrus Vol. 1)	Rawkus
Vinyl	Hip-Hop	11.99
Company Flow	Funcrusher Plus	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	12.49
Conga Squad	All systems go	Noise Traxx	Vinyl	House	$8.49
Consequence	Nobody	Groove Attack	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	8.24
Craze	Crazee Musick	Bomb Records	CD	Hip-Hop	13.99
Cuts	Made In Brighton	Solid	Vinyl	Techno	5.24
Czech	Worldmad	Stereo Delux	CD	Downtempo	13.99
Dave Angel	Knockout	Rotation	Vinyl	Techno	8.74
Dave Seaman	Buenos Aires	Global Underground	CD	Trance	19.99
DBX	Bleep	Accelerate	Vinyl	Techno	$5.99
Dead Poets Society	Who	EYA	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Death In Vegas	Dirge	Hard	Vinyl	Downtempo	$8.69
Decoder / Substance	Encounters	Breakbeat Culture	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	15.49
Deep Dish	The Future Of The Future	Arista	Vinyl	House	11.99
Defari	People's	ABB Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Del	Phoney Phranchise	Hiero Imperium	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.00
Del 5	The Biggest Thing in Detroit	Tronic	Vinyl	House	3.99
Denard Henry	Sonic Archit	Cipher	Vinyl	Techno	9.24
Depeche Mode	The Singles 86-98	Reprise	CD	Alternative	23.49
Der Dritte Raum	Hale Bopp Remix	Additive	Vinyl	Trance	8.24
Derrick Carter & Chris Nazuka	Red Nail Relic	Bombay	Vinyl	House	6.35
Dharma and Dice	Soul Warrior	Audio Couture	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.24
Dielselboy	Atlantic State	Tech Itch	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Dieselboy	A Soldier's Story	Moonshine	CD	Drum & Bass	15.50
Diggin in the Crates	Day One	D.I.T.C	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Diggin in the Crates	Get Yours	D.I.T.C	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Diggin in the Crates	Internationally Known	D.I.T.C	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Dilated Peoples	Third Degree	ABB Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Dilated Peoples	Rework the Angels	ABB Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Divine Styler	Word Power	DTX	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	13.49
DJ Brokie & Ed Solo	Turntable/Dangerous	Undiluted	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
DJ Dan 	Needle Damage Remixes	Moonshine	Vinyl	House	$5.99
Dj Dan	Dj Mix 2	Moonshine	CD	House	15.50
Dj Dave London	Your Time Will Come	Yes Mate	Vinyl	Trance	6.24
Dj Dmd	Twenty Two: P.A World Wide	Elektra	CD	Rap	4.99
DJ Icey	Beats and Tracks Vol. 8	ECB Records
	Vinyl	Breakbeat	8.99
DJ Icey	Position In Love	Zone	Vinyl	Breakbeat	6.35
Dj Jackie Christie	Hard Tasty Beats	Nervous	CD	House	15.95
DJ Jazz	Rap	Showtyme	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.35
DJ Predator feat Romanthony	Find A Music	Glasgow Underground	Vinyl	House
8.24
DJ Rap	Good To Be Alive	Columbia	Vinyl	House	5.99
DJ Rasoul	True Formula	Large	Vinyl	House	6.35
DJ Rush	Boomerang EP	High Octane	Vinyl	Techno	6.35
DJ Vadim	It's Obvious	Ninja Tune	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.94
Dj Vadim	Friction	Ninja Tune	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
DNA	The Clock	Da Lick	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Don S	Ritmo Infernal	Kontor	Vinyl	Trance	9.04
Down To The Bone	Right On Baby	Intenal Bass	Vinyl	Downtempo	8.84
Dr. Dre	The Chronic	Priority 	CD	Hip-Hop	15.50
Dr. Macabre	Danse Macabre	Magarave	Vinyl	Techno	5.99
Dub Duo	I Love You/ Dream Drummer	NRK	Vinyl	House	$7.99
Dubtribe Sound System	Equitoreal	Zomba	Vinyl	House	6.13
Dus	Why not Vol. 1	Solid State Of House	Vinyl	House	$8.99
Dynamic Source	Enemies	Sudden Def	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.54
Dynamic Syncopation	Ground Zero and The Essence	Ninja Tune	Vinyl	Hip-Hop
6
E Dancer	Banjo	Pias	Vinyl	Techno	$7.99
Earth Wind & Fire	September	INC	Vinyl	House	9.24
El Dorado	Be Free / Iris	In Trance We Trust	Vinyl	Trance	8.84
El Dorado	Be Free / Iris	In Trance We Trust	Vinyl	Trance	8.84
El Stew	No Hesitation	OM	CD	Downtempo	15.95
Electroliners	Loose Coboose	Twitch	Vinyl	Breakbeat	$5.99
Emily 	The disco Bandit E.P.	Yoshi Toshi	Vinyl	House	$6.99
Eminem	Guilty Conscience	Aftermath	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
EPMD	You Gots To Chill	Fresh Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.24
EPMD	Your A Customer	Fresh Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.24
Equator vs. Warlock	Silence EP	RCM	Vinyl	Trance	9.04
Eri Ito	Sona Mi Areru Ec Sancitu	Nite Grooves	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Ernst & Ben	Provider	Yeti	Vinyl	Trance	9.04
Expansion Union	Playing With Lightning	Wax Trax	Vinyl	Techno	5.99
Facs	Strutter	Droppin' Science	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Fanat	Blowin' Up Spots	Hydra	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Farley and Heller	Late Night Sessions III	Ministry of Sound	CD	House
23.99
Fatboy Slim	Better Living Through Chemistry	Astralwerks	CD	Breakbeat
15.50
Filibuster	Don't Give Up	Intercom	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
First Choice	The Player	Philly Groove	Vinyl	House	8.74
Foreign Legion	Overnight Success	ABB Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	3.75
Fragma	Toca Me	Gang	Vinyl	Trance	8.94
Frankie Bones	The Way You Like It	Bellboy	Vinyl	Techno	8.84
Frankie Knuckles	Tears	Essential	Vinyl	House	9.04
Freestyle 2000	Don't Stop the Rock	Pandisc	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	6.13
Freestylers	Here We Go	Freskanova	Vinyl	Downtempo	$7.99
Frontside	Dammerung	Wax Trax	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	5.99
Funky Derrick	Keep It Up	Twisted	Vinyl	House	6.13
Future Soul	Slipping Away	Black Vinyl	Vinyl	House	$8.99
G Flame & Mr. G	Tanacity	Phoenix	Vinyl	House	15.49
Gaetano Parisio	Art 4	NNT	Vinyl	Techno	10.24
Gangstarr	Hard to Earn	Chrysalis	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	18.99
GangStarr	Words I Manifest	Wild Pitch	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Gene Farris	Low Down Dirty World	Farris Wheel	Vinyl	House	$8.39
Gene Hunt	Gene Hunt Classics	Dust Traxx	Vinyl	House	$11.69
Geraldine Hunt and Prince Quick Mix	Can't Fake the Feeling	Twisted	Vinyl
House	6.13
gipsy kings	compas	atlantic	CD	pop	14.50
gipsy kings	cantos de amor	atlantic	CD	pop
	14.50
Glenn Underground	Fly with me (Mark Grant Remixes)	Guidance	Vinyl	House
$6.10
Glenn Underground	Blue	3 to 5	Vinyl	House	3.99
Glenn Underground	The Fish Fry	Mush	Vinyl	Downtempo	3.99
Godfather Don	Do You Know?	Hydra	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
goove glide	record cleaner		Merchandise		21.99
Grand The Visitor	Situation Critical	Blind-Side	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Green Court	Follow Me Remix	Club Guerilla	Vinyl	Trance	8.54
Groovemaster 2	Various	Groove Master 	Vinyl	Classic	10.24
Group Home	Livin' Proof	Payday	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	12.99
Gruv Glide			Merchandise		19.99
Gus Gus	V.I.P	4AD	Vinyl	House	8.24
GZA	Breaker Breaker	MCA	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Half Pint	Green Light	Half Records	Vinyl	House	$8.59
Halo	Big Hair Dave Angel Remix	Eukatech	Vinyl	Techno	8.94
Hard Drive 2000 feat.l Lynae	Never Forget (when you touch me)	Strictly
Rhythm	Vinyl	House	$5.99
Harris & Crump	Boogie City	Flaunt It	Vinyl	House	$8.69
Headphones	Coby Cv-470		Merchandise		16.99
Headphones	Discwasher  Performance Plus		Merchandise		31.99
Heller & Farley	Deep Sensation	Junior Boys Own	Vinyl	House	$8.19
Henrik B	Eilgorhthm Reworks	Zync Remixed	Vinyl	Techno	8.84
Hieroglyphics	The Last One (go the length)	Hieroglyphics Imperium	Vinyl
Hip-Hop	6
High and Mighty	Sun, Moon and Stars	Hydra	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Himmel	Revolution I	Plastik	Vinyl	Trance	6.24
Incense	Gonesh Sticks		Merchandise		.99
Innersphere	Let's Go To Work 99 Mixes	Manmade	Vinyl	Techno	9.24
Innerzone Orchestra	Programmed	Astralwerks	CD	Techno	15.99
Inside Out	Upside Down		Vinyl	House	$8.49
J.B's	Food for Thought	People	Vinyl	Soul
	10.99
J. Cru	Freestyles	Mush	Vinyl	Downtempo	3.99
J-Live	Can I Get It?	Raw Shack	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
J-Live	Longevity	Raw Shack	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.74
Jamie Lewis feat. MIchael Watford	For You	Purple Music	Vinyl	House	7.99
Jamiroquai	Canned Heat	Work	Vinyl	Downtempo	6.13
Jan Driver	Golden Classics	Formaldehyd	Vinyl	House	$8.79
Jan Driver	4 Wheeler	Formaldehyd	Vinyl	House	8.54
Jark Prongo	Shake It    2 x 12	*69	Vinyl	House	$9.99
Jark Prongo	Kucci	Fresh Fruit	Vinyl	House	$8.59
Jean Philippe Aviance	Part 1 Useless	Subversive	Vinyl	House	8.35
Jean Philippe Aviance	Part 2 Useless	Subversive	Vinyl	House	8.35
Jeremiah	Alphabet	Grow	Vinyl	House	9.99
Jeremiah/del campo	Cronotic e.p.	Ray Gun	Vinyl	Techno	$5.99
Jim Hopkins	Watersports E.P.	Journees 	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Jim Hopkins	Serpents Kiss Dreams	Twitch	Vinyl	Trance	6.10
Joel Mull	Eroticon 6	Inside	Vinyl	Techno	$8.49
Joey Beltram	The Sound of 2AM	Moonshine	CD	House	15.50
John Notty	You Don't Know	Bronx Science	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.35
Johnny Fiasco	Vital Signs	Tonic Recordings	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Jordan Fields	Off  tha muthaf@#$in hook e.p.	Catalyst
	Vinyl	House	6.10
Jose Nunez	Hold On	Subliminal	Vinyl	House	9.25
Josh Wink	Profound Sounds Vol. 1	Ovum	CD	House	17.99
Juan Atkins	Kickin' Mastermix	Kickin	CD	Techno	18.99
Julius Papp	Imaginary Voyage	Paper	Vinyl	House	8.94
Junior Cartier	Women Beat Their Men	New Camp	Vinyl	House	$8.49
Juno Reactor	Pistollero	Blue Room	Vinyl	Trance	8.24
Just-Ice	Cold Gettin' Dumb	Fresh Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.99
juvenile	400 degreez	universal	CD	Hip-Hop	14.50
KB Project	KB Project	Elevate	Vinyl	House	$5.99
Ken Ishi	Misprogrammed Day	R & S	Vinyl	Techno	$7.99
Kennith Grahm & DJ Kuya	Kennith Grahm & DJ Kuya	Sun Children Recordings
Vinyl	House	$6.10
Kerri Chandler feat. Treasa 'Diva' Fennie	Heal my Heart	King Street
Vinyl	House	$6.10
Kerri Chandler & Jerome Sydenham	Powder	Mad House	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Kiez Kids	I Found It	Club Tools	Vinyl	House	9.24
Kim English	Unspeakable Joy	Nervous	Vinyl	House	7.08
Kombo	Pop Shit	Infin-T Entertainment	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Kool Keith	Black Elvis	Ruff House	CD	Hip-Hop	15.89
KOT	My Love Is Real	Distance	Vinyl	House	$7.99
Kraftwerk	Tour de France	EMI	Vinyl	Electro
	9.29
KRS-One	5 Burroughs	Jive	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Krumb Snatcha	Gettin Closer to God	MIA	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	3.99
L-Fudge	Dimmin' the Life	Groove Attack	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	8.24
Lamagra & Roland Clark	Sacrifice	Prescription	Vinyl	House	$6.29
Lauryn Hill	Everything is Everything	Ruffhouse	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Lemon 8 and Desert	The Bells of Revolution and Lose It	Twisted	Vinyl
Trance	3.99
Les Rythmes Digitales	Sometimes	Wall Of Sound	Vinyl	House	7.99
Lexicon	Why Don't You	Plastic City America	Vinyl	House	6.35
Liquid Sun	The Beginning	Logic 3	Vinyl	Trance	6.13
Lisa Hall	Chocolate Comatose	F-111	Vinyl	House	11.99
LMNO	Grin and Bear It	Battle Axe	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.00
Lone Catalysts	Due Process	B.U.K.A	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Lord Digga	My Flows is Tight	Game Recordings	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Lords of Acid	Lust	Antler-Subway	CD	Alternative	16.10
Lovestreet	Green Tea E.P.	3 to 5	Vinyl	House	3.99
Low	Owl	Caroline	CD	Downtempo	15.12
LSG 	Part One	HoojChoons	Vinyl	Trance	7.99
LSG 	Part Two	HoojChoons	Vinyl	Trance	7.99
Luker	Encounters	Rumble	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	9.54
Lulu Mushi	Oval Compisitions	Mush	Vinyl	Downtempo	3.99
Luniz	I got 5 on it	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	$6.10
Luniz	I Got 5 On It	Grand Royal	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	6.35
M.F. Doom	The M.I.C	Fondle 'Em	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
M.F. Grimm	Bloody Love Letter	Fondle 'Em	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Maelstrom	Fifth Flight	Flying Rhino	Vinyl	Trance	19.49
Main Source	Looking at the Front Door	Wild Pitch	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Main Source	Breaking Atoms	Wild Pitch	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	10.50
Majistrate	Return	East Side	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Mankind Liberation Front	Isolated	City Of Angels	Vinyl	Trance	5.99
Mantronix	Bass Line	Warlock	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	$5.99
Mara	One	Choo Choo	Vinyl	Trance	$8.49
Marco Vogt	Konigsborner Geschichten	Overdrive	Vinyl	Techno	8.54
Marcus Schulz	U Can Get It	Plastik	Vinyl	Trance	6.24
Marcus Todd	The Format  E.P.	Kool Groove	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Martha Wash	Come	Logic	Vinyl	House	10.87
Masquerade	Black Eyed Boy	21st Century	Vinyl	Trance	9.99
Masters at Work and India	To Be In Love US Remixes	Maw	Vinyl	House	6.24
Mateo Matos	The Real Thing	Glasgow Underground	Vinyl	House	$8.29
Maxell CD Cleaning Kit			Merchandise		8.50
Maxell Headphones	HP-2000		Merchandise		19.99
Maxim	My Web	XL	Vinyl	Downtempo	12.49
Medina Green	Crosstown Beeff	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Men From The Nile feat. Peven Everett	Watch Them Come	Undaground Therapy
Vinyl	House	$11.89
Michael T. Diamond	Music Box Express	Twisted	Vinyl	Trance	8.24
Mike Delgado	Byrd  Mans Revenge E.P.	Sunflower Records	Vinyl	House	$8.29
Mike Parker	Voice Print	Geophone	Vinyl	Techno	6.14
Mike Zoot	High Drama	Guesswhyld	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Miles Maeda	A Little Bit Of Magic	Dirty Loop	Vinyl	House	3.99
Missy Elliot	Da Real World	Elektra	CD	Rap	4.99
Molemen	Buried Alive	Molemen Recordings	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Mood	Unconscious Mc's	Mission Control	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Moodyman	Silent Introduction	Planet E	Vinyl	House	$11.99
Mos Def	The Universal Magnetic	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Mos Def and Talib Kweli	Black Star	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	8.99
Mos Def, Q-Tip and Tash	Body Rock	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Mr. Dibbs	Unearthed Vol. 3	Four Ways to Rock	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	9.99
Mr. Dibbs	231 Ways to Fry an Egg	Four Ways to Rock	Vinyl	Downtempo	6.99
Mr. Dibbs and Dj Fingaz	Face Off	Certified	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	10.24
Mr. Hermano	Vasco De Gama	Mr. Bongo	Vinyl	House	8.24
Mr. Scruff	Keep It Unreal	Zen	Vinyl	Downtempo	$15.25
Mucho Macho	Rap Is Really Changing	Wilja	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	9.99
Mushroom Jazz	Various	OM	CD	Downtempo	18.15
Naked Music	If I fall	Naked Music NYC	Vinyl	Downtempo	$6.10
Nas	Nas Is Like	Columbia	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Nate Williams	Jump Stump	Undaground Therapy	Vinyl	House	6.35
Neon Heights	Cherry Trees	Glasgow Underground	Vinyl	House	$7.99
Neosoul	For The Chosen Few	Audiosphericali	Vinyl	Downtempo	6.65
Nice and Smooth	Early to Rise	Fresh Records	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.99
Nickodemus & Jay B	Present A New Day	Mush	Vinyl	Downtempo	3.99
No I.D	Invisible Beats	Opposition 	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	9.24
Nobody feat. 2 Mex & E.S.P 	Afternoon Focus	Ubiquity	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.50
Noir 4	Point A E.P.	Dark House	Vinyl	House	$8.49
Noise Maker Vol. 1	Unicorn 99	Nukleuz	Vinyl	Trance	8.64
Northern Exposure Sasha and John Digweed	Expeditions	Ultra 	CD	Techno
19.41
Notorious BIG	One More Chance	Bad Boy	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.68
Notorious BIG	Juicy	Bad Boy	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Notorious BIG	Big Poppa	Bad Boy	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Numark DM 2000X			Merchandise		179.99
Oliver Lieb	Subraumstimulation	Orbit	Vinyl	Techno	8.49
OM Lounge	Various	OM	Vinyl	Downtempo	16.49
Onionz Tony & Dano	Extreme Measures E.P.	Moody	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Optic Nerve	Trilogy - Wave 3	Direct Beat	Vinyl	Techno	5.99
Orang'e	The Musik	Nervous Dog	Vinyl	Trance	7.08
Orgy	Stitches	F-111	Vinyl	House	11.99
Ortofon DJ E Cartridge			Merchandise		75.00
Ortofon DJ S Cartrifdge			Merchandise		110
Ortofon DJS Replacement Stylus			Merchandise		30
Ortofon Nightclub Replacement Stylus			Merchandise		30
Ortofon Slip Mats			Merchandise		8.99
Pacewon	Step Up	Ruff House
	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Paul Johnson	Get Get Down	Hot Trax	Vinyl	House	9.24
Paul Johnson	Groove Mission Remixes	Dust Traxx	Vinyl	House	6.35
Peanut Butter Wolf	Styles, Crews, Flows, Beats	Stones Throw	Vinyl
Hip-Hop	5.75
Peanut Butter Wolf	My Vinyl Weighs a Ton	Stones Throw	Vinyl	Hip-Hop
16.99
Pepper Mashay	Step into My Life	Azuli	Vinyl	House	$8.29
Petalpusher	Breakin It Down	Naked	Vinyl	House	6.35
Pete Heller's 	Big Love	Subliminal	Vinyl	House	7.24
Pete Rock and CL Smooth	Mecca and the Soul Brother	Elektra	Vinyl	Hip-Hop
16.49
Pete Tong	Essential Selection	FFRR	CD	House	29.99
Peter Presta	Disco Rama	Waako	Vinyl	House	6.24
Pharoahe Monch	Simon Says	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Pharoahe Monch and Sir Menelik	Mayor and 7XL	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Phats & Small	feelgood	Multiply	Vinyl	House	$8.89
Polyrythm Addicts	Motion 2000	Wreck 	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	7.08
Powerhouse	What You Need	Strictly Rhythm	Vinyl	House	11.50
Prince	1999 The New Master	NPG	CD	Pop	12.31
Prince Po	Love tha Love	Medicinemen Productions	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Prince Poetry	Where Ya Shoes At?	Hydra	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.00
Problem Kids	Mind of A Sister	Discocaine	Vinyl	House	$8.49
Propellerheads	Take California	Dreamworks	Vinyl	Downtempo	5.99
Propellerheads	Take California	Wall Of Sound	Vinyl	Breakbeat	8.49
Public Enemy	There's A Poison Goin' On	Eastlink	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	16.29
Pure Nova	April Morning	Phat Phunk	Vinyl	Trance	6.64
Q-Burns Abstract Message	Feng Shui	Astralwerks	CD	Downtempo	15.50
Q-Tip, LL Cool J, Mase and Mysonne	Violator	Def Jam	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
R.O.O.S	Instant Movies	Twisted	Vinyl	Trance	3.99
Rahzel	Make the Music 2000	MCA	CD	Hip-Hop	15.50
Rahzel	All I Know	MCA	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Rare Drums Vol. 1	Rare Drums Vol. 1	RJ	Vinyl	Breakbeat	$12.50
Rasco	Take It Back Home (Major League Remix)	Stones Throw	Vinyl	Hip-Hop
5.75
Record Care System			Merchandise		14.99
Record Spray	SA-14		Merchandise		2.98
Redman	Da Goodness	Def Jam	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
Reflection Eternal	Fortified Live	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Reflection Eternal	On Mission	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Remote	The Swarm	UR	Vinyl	Techno	$6.10
REQ	Daily Beats	Skin	Vinyl	Breakbeat	$7.99
Rick Wade/B dancer	Diverse Dynamix e.p.	Chord 44	Vinyl	House	5.89
Robert Armani/Ben Simms	Kick Ass 	Morpheus	Vinyl	Techno	$7.99
Robert Hood	Floorplan	Drama	Vinyl	Techno	$6.10
Robert Hood	Floorplan	Drama	Vinyl	Techno	$6.10
Robert Hood	Red Passion 2	duet	Vinyl	Techno	$6.10
Robert Hood	Psychic	M Plant	Vinyl	Techno	6.35
Robin Rush	All For Love	Soul Boy	Vinyl	House	6.35
Roc Raida	Beats for Jugglers 2	Fat Beats	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	10.24
Roni Size and Dj Krust	It's Jazzy / Maintain	Ultra 	CD	Drum & Bass	6.99
Rotess	Electrica Salsa		Vinyl	House	8.84
RZA	Bobby Digital	Gee Street	CD	Hip-Hop	16.10
Salt-n-Pepa	Do You Want Me 92	Next Plateau	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	3.99
Saukrates	Action	Capitol Hill	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Scienz of Life	Power of Nine	Fondle 'Em	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Scratch Trax Foundation	Preach to Part	Island	Vinyl	House	$8.99
Screwball	Senn it All	Tommy Boy	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	$6.10
Sean Boston	My Word	Pentagon	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Shaboom	Sweet Sensation	Warner Music	Vinyl	House	$8.69
Shad-o-man	Shadowman	Yoshi Toshi	Vinyl	House	$6.10
Siah	Pyrite	Fondle 'Em	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Sir Menelik	Space Cadillac Remix	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.00
SJ Slip	Stone Broke EP	Stoner Shit	Vinyl	Downtempo	8.24
Skunk Anansie (Armand Van Helden)	Secretly	Virgin	Vinyl	House	9.24
Smoke City	Underwater Love	Zomba	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	5.99
Souls of Mischief	93' til Infinity	Jive	CD	Hip-Hop	15.50
Spacedust 	Racer
	White	Vinyl	House	9.99
Stephan Laubner	Summerpause	Perlon	Vinyl	Techno	9.04
Stomp & Weaver	Satellites	Hard Leaders	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Strict Flow	People on Lock	Raw Shack	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Studio 45	Forbidden E.P.	BCC	Vinyl	House	$8.49
Studio 45	Farris Wheel	Formaldehyd	Vinyl	House	8.543
Styles of Beyond	Easy Back it Up	Bilawn	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.0
Stylus Care System			Merchandise		6.99
Subroc	It Sounded Like a Roc	Fondle 'Em	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Sunkids	Rescue Me	Yellorange	Vinyl	House	$5.99
Supercar	Computer Love	Pepper	Vinyl	House	8.74
Swirlz Vol. 1	Music for your mind, thoughts for your feet	Parotic Music
Vinyl	Techno	$5.99
Swollen Members feat. Dilated Peoples	Front Street / Counter Parts
Battle Axe	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
Tagashi  Kurosawa
Test Dub
	Test Dub	Krylon	Vinyl	Techno	8.49
Tates Place	Burnin	Dynamite Joint 	Vinyl	Downtempo	$8.29
Terry Hunter	The Disco/Sweet Music	Maw	Vinyl	House	$5.99 
That Kid Chris	Come With Me	Jellybean	Vinyl	Trance	6.14
The Beatnuts	Watch Out Now	Relativity	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.99
The Beloved	The Sun Rising	Virgin	Vinyl	House	9.99
The Brooklyn Funk Essentials	Magick Karpet Ride	Shanachie	Vinyl
Downtempo	7.08
The Chris Bangs Project	Dazzle	Instinct Jazz	CD	Acid Jazz	13.99
The Giant	Hold Mines	PJays	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
The Greyboy Allstars	Live	Relaxed	CD	Jazz	15.95
The Herbaliser	Blow Your Headphones	Ninja Tune	CD	Downtempo	15.12
The High and Mighty	Dirty Decibels	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.75
The High and Mighty	Home Field Advantage	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	13
The Kings Of Tribal	Take Me Higher	Asphalt	Vinyl	House	$6.10
The Roots	You Got Me	MCA	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.13
The Smiths	Best . . . I	Sire	CD	Alternative	15.50
Thirstin Howl	Brooklyn Hard Rock	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.
Thomas Bangalter	Trax on Da Rocks	Roule	Vinyl	House	8.99
Thomas Bangalter	Spinal Scratch	Roule	Vinyl	House	$8.99
Thomas Bangalter	Trax on Da Rocks 2	Roule	Vinyl	House	$8.99
Thor	Aliens Don't Boogie	AE2	Vinyl	Techno	9.99
Timebase	Unity	SB	Vinyl	Breakbeat	8.54
Timo Maas	Der Schieber	Hope	Vinyl	Trance	8.84
Together As One	Various	Moonshine	CD	Various Genres	15.50
Tony Esposito	Kalimba De Luna	Dwboys	Vinyl	House	$8.79
Total Science	Velocity	CIA	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Transa	Carla's Theme	Hook	Vinyl	Trance	8.84
Tricky	For Real	Island	Vinyl	Downtempo	8.94
Tricky with Dj Muggs and Grease	For Real	Island	Vinyl	Downtempo	6.13
Tronix	Night Safe	Frontline	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	8.74
Tru Bash 98	More Cheese	Bashton	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
u-zig	Royal Astronomy	Astralwerks	CD	Ambient	15.99
Ugly Duckling	Everybody C'Mon	1500	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	3.99
Ultramagnetic Mc's 	The Four Horseman	Wild Pitch	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	12.99
Underground Resistance	The Swarm	Underground Resistance	Vinyl	Breakbeat
6.35
Unknown	Booty Call plus 4 others	White	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	5.99
Unknown	Rare Drums Vol.1	White	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	13.99
Unknown	Secrets of Asia	Blutonium	Vinyl	Trance	$8.99
Urban Mania	Double E.P.	Urban Substance	Vinyl	Techno	$13.99
Ursala1000	the leggy e.p	eighteenth street lounge music	Vinyl	Downtempo
$5.99
US3	I'm Thinking About Your Body	Blue Note	Vinyl	Downtempo	3.99
Uziq	Royal Astronomy	Astralwerks	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	18.19
Various	Off Limits mixed by Dixon	Recreation	CD	Jazzy	18.99
Various	Tresor Compilation Vol. 7	Tresor Records	CD	Techno	16.99
Various	Massive #1 (Gaeme Park)	AU	CD	House	21.99
Various	Uncutfunkultrasubbass	Currently Processing	Vinyl	Techno	8.24
Various	My House The Collection	Distance	CD	House	22.99
Various	Om Lounge 2	Om	Vinyl	Downtempo	16.49
Various	Mumia 911	Realized	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.35
Various	TRANCEGLOBALNATION 2	Arcade America	CD	Trance	15.95
Various	Superrapin'	Groove Attack	CD	Hip-Hop	17.57
Various	Austin Powers "The Spy Who Shagged Me"	Maverick	CD	Various	16.10
Various	Deeper Concentration 	OM	CD	Hip-Hop	15.41
Various	No Categories	Ubiquity	CD	Downtempo	18.15
Various	City of Angels OMPS	Warner Brothers	CD	Various	16.10
Various	Everybody Dance Remixes	Atlantic	Vinyl	House	6.13
Various	Sway and King Tech	Interscope	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6.68
Various	Nervous Breakbeats 8	Nervous	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	7.08
Various	Electro Lounge	The Right Stuff	Vinyl	Downtempo	6.13
Various	Hip Hop Independents Day	Wreck 	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	7.08
Various	Valley of the Ultra Beats	Grand Gruyere	Vinyl	Classic	15.24
Various	Lyricist Lounge All-Stars	Rawkus	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	6
Various	New York State of Rhyme	&nbsp;	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	17.49
Various	Urban Jungle Aprodite Mix	Priority 	CD	Drum & Bass	15.12
Various	Brainstorm	React	CD	Techno	22.99
Vitamin C	Vitamin C	Elektra	CD	Pop	4.99
War	Low Rider	War	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	9.04
White Shadow	Invasion of the Beat Jackerz	Black Ace	Vinyl	Hip-Hop	8.62
Wildchild	Renegade Master	Ultra	Vinyl	Drum & Bass	6.35
Woody McBride	Basketball Hereos	Communique	Vinyl	Techno	6.35
Yellow Dance Classics	Vol. 1	Yellow France	Vinyl	House	$8.99
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 you have seen speed freak do a live PA .. u sure bout that ?????
i didnt even know bout martin doing live pas in the states , oh well .... i 
wish i would have seen it  .. . .. by the way where did u see it at?

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WE NEED MORE LIVE P.A.'s @ PARTIES!!! I would really love to see more live 
sets, especially with female vocalists!!! I wanna see some Drum 'n Bass with 
some sweet singing instead of MC'ing for a change... And D.J.'s spin trance 
sets with some awesome Sarah Maclachlan - type vocalist. We need more D.J.'s 
like Colette, who can sing and spin records @ the same time!!!

Anyway... here are the 5 that come to mind...in no part. order...

Dubtribe Sound System
Noel Sanger w/ Nicole Henry
Skylab 2000
Space Girl
Orbital  ( yeah they're really mainstream, but I saw them a month ago & they 
were impressive.)

I'll be seeing Electric Skychurch in Toledo soon, have heard good things 
about 'em & a friend of mine is trying to book Rabbit in the Moon for his 
party in Nov., so I'll get a chance to see them too...

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Everyday... i climb into my chair facing the buzzing screen of compelete lifelessness.
I hunch forward over plasic manmade machines poping my eyes out as they dry to a crisp winkless world for reading... and reading.. and reading...
And each time i read, and read, and read, i delete, delete, delete, pressing those so simple molded keys that are now covered in sugar juices from midnite munchies.  And each time as i gaze at the box with my bloodshot eyes, prying them open, the numbers, the numbers i tell you, grow into mass amounts, adding more and more useless thoughts across my screen.  And as i sit here alone in the darkness pondering of nothing, no, not hearing those hrs. of mp3s i downloaded, but only aware of my snot dripping down my nose, a back ache climbing up my spine and my lungs pushing for air and my finger's joints breaking i ask myself one question. 

Is it worth it?

And i sit straight up, cracking my body back into place from molding my own damn butt into the wooden uncushioned seat.  And i move my head to the side in a thinking position.  I move my toe, only for a second. My eyes pan over to the icon marked as "Read Mail" and look at the 1000 more e-mail i have left to encounter.  I try to smile, breaking the saliva barrier that was pulling my lips together, i release a giggle. A crackle, a loud roar!!!! Of maddness! Nothing else! Pure Maddness!!!! And because of all of you!!! All of you at MW-RAVES!!! This is what i have come to!!!!!!!! Waiting for new messages to come and respond to my idiotic drug infested 2 cents!!!!! What do i do??!?!! KEEP READING!!!! ARE YOU MADD??!?!?!? YES!!!?!??!?!! 

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Ok I can't put them in order of favoritism, so I'm just going to list all
the live PA's I've seen in no particular order because I want to ruin the
thread :p

Underworld (ok this was probably my favorite), Chemical Bothers, Orb
(twice...this may be my favorite too), Orbital, Meat Beat Manifesto, Moby,
Juno Reactor, Skylab 2000, Deepsky, Dubtribe, Prototype 909, Hardfloor, and
um...hell...I know there are a couple more but I can't remember em :(  I've
seen Force and Styles but that wasn't live...and I'll see Hallucinogen in 2
weeks but that won't be live either :/


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Again, I will ask.

Where's the damn hardcore????

*hrmph*

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Talk about kinky!

whendee

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1) aphex twin
2) doormouse @ zen lunatics
3) punisher
4) hardfloor
5) substance p @ schizophrenia

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tmb4@prodigy.net wrote:
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>  But he then just got a free email addy and jumped back on.
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Don't waste your time here, Tobes. This list has already proven it is
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1) plastikman
2) rabbit in the moon
3) 1.8.7
4) aphex twin
5) your mom


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What constitutes a live PA to you guys? i know some people seem to think a
dj with a 303 is a live pa... (i don't)
Just curious.

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this is out of ones that i have seen...

prototype 909
electric skychurch
dubtribe
mike dearborn
hardfloor
punisher

ones that i would LOVE to see:
AUTECHRE <droooooooL>
fuzzbuzz
plastikman (saw him spin...but...)
aphex twin
orbital
chemical brothers (hahah im gonna get FLAMED for this one...but i heard
this tape of a live performance of theirs from about three or four years
ago that was in england and it is all acidy breaky stuff...none of their
"block rockin beats" kinda crap...if the music is good, fuck the bullshit
and get over it...)



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i wrote down your number, and like an idiot seemed to place it somewhere
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>chemical brothers (hahah im gonna get FLAMED for this one...but i >heard
>this tape of a live performance of theirs from about three or four >years
>ago that was in england and it is all acidy breaky stuff...none of >their
>"block rockin beats" kinda crap

I saw them 3 summers ago and they were actually really good...I'd see them
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Uberzone is most DEFINITELY a live fuckin' PA.
Electronic Drums (i.e. uses drumsticks)
Computer
Sequencer,
samplers
hell... I don't know what the hell else, but he impressed the SHIT outta
me.
I gotta agree, 1 little 303 just doesn't cut it.  Toss a few of em
together and that's getting closer.

Ciao!
Kale/DreamSequenceXy

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> What constitutes a live PA to you guys? i know some people seem to think a
> dj with a 303 is a live pa... (i don't)
> Just curious.
> 
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I am a dumb bitch and i erased it...could someone e-mail me privately
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> Uberzone is most DEFINITELY a live fuckin' PA.
> Electronic Drums (i.e. uses drumsticks)
> Computer
> Sequencer,
> samplers
> hell... I don't know what the hell else, but he impressed the SHIT outta
> me.
> I gotta agree, 1 little 303 just doesn't cut it.  Toss a few of em
> together and that's getting closer.
>
> Ciao!
> Kale/DreamSequenceXy

Yeah that's a live pa by most standards. I've never been a big fan of the
whole computer deal for a live setup but i've heard a few performers live
that use them and they sound pretty good. I guess it's the same as having a
music workstation.

do many live pa's actually play any instruments live? i usually try to play
at least one part of every song on the keyboards live if i can. i try to use
the keys so people are like "why doesn't he play those keyboards" hehehe...

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In a message dated 9/2/99 8:19:15 PM Central Daylight Time, 
kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu writes:

<< Uberzone is most DEFINITELY a live fuckin' PA.
 Electronic Drums (i.e. uses drumsticks)
 Computer
 Sequencer,
 samplers >>

I have to Agree...Uberzone is also one of my favorite live PAs. But I 
consitute a live PA as someone not using different equipment to create music 
live. A guy/girl with one 303 might do one of the dopest live PAs ever..so it 
doesn't matter technically what he/she uses..but how and what he/she creates. 
 =)  <flame guard on>

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Ya, they used ta rawk, but oh nooo, they had to go and get fuckin' cheezy
noizy.... sigh.
It's like Prodigy vs The Prodigy... sigh again.

Next it'll be Spree vs The Spree....

heh heh

Kale

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> >chemical brothers (hahah im gonna get FLAMED for this one...but i >heard
> >this tape of a live performance of theirs from about three or four >years
> >ago that was in england and it is all acidy breaky stuff...none of >their
> >"block rockin beats" kinda crap
> 
> I saw them 3 summers ago and they were actually really good...I'd see them
> again if I could be assured they'd play the same kind of stuff.
> 
> fergus :)
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> Yeah that's a live pa by most standards. I've never been a big fan of the
> whole computer deal for a live setup but i've heard a few performers live
> that use them and they sound pretty good. I guess it's the same as having a
> music workstation.
> 
> do many live pa's actually play any instruments live? i usually try to play
> at least one part of every song on the keyboards live if i can. i try to use
> the keys so people are like "why doesn't he play those keyboards" hehehe...
> 
> - Radianation
> http://www.louipimps.com

Ya, Spacemen use Korgs and an ASR-10.. and Cubase to run drums and
sequence over a laptop.
Uberzone uses an ASR-10 I think... though it could well be something else.
K5 uses 2 diff't synths, a DJ, a singer, and CuBase... but I saw them live
recently and they sucked ass.  (another one of those use-to-be-good
things)

Thchuss!
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> I have to Agree...Uberzone is also one of my favorite live PAs. But I 
> consitute a live PA as someone not using different equipment to create music 
> live. A guy/girl with one 303 might do one of the dopest live PAs ever..so it 
> doesn't matter technically what he/she uses..but how and what he/she creates. 
>  =)  <flame guard on>


See, I disagree.  With a 303, you have your tracks mapped out, and just
switch between them... raising and lowering levels of sounds.
That's DJing.... well, more of Computer Jockeying...
but same deal.  There's no mixing involved with just a 303.

Ciao now Smurfette!

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> See, I disagree.  With a 303, you have your tracks mapped out, and just
> switch between them... raising and lowering levels of sounds.
> That's DJing.... well, more of Computer Jockeying...
> but same deal.  There's no mixing involved with just a 303.
>
> Ciao now Smurfette!
>
> Kale/DreamSequence

True - but what do you think most live pa's do? Are you expecting a band to
play live instruments or depeche mode on keyboards? Just curious. When I do
live pa's I usually avoid using midi if at all possible and sync everything
manually that way I can start and stop and switch tracks and stuff. Nothing
is programmed beyond an 8 measure loop (well sometimes a rare 16 measure)
and I punch in parts that I want at any given time. Is this a live pa to
you?

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Speedfreak did  a live PA NYE 96 in Rockford...in a soccer stadium.

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Rave-wise:

MEAT. fun fun fun!

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Bad news:

Being low man on the totem pole.....work puts it in my ass.

Oh well, rave on.

Good newz:

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> 
> True - but what do you think most live pa's do? Are you expecting a band to
> play live instruments or depeche mode on keyboards? Just curious. When I do
> live pa's I usually avoid using midi if at all possible and sync everything
> manually that way I can start and stop and switch tracks and stuff. Nothing
> is programmed beyond an 8 measure loop (well sometimes a rare 16 measure)
> and I punch in parts that I want at any given time. Is this a live pa to
> you?
> 

Nah, midi is fine.  At least it is more than just one machine.  Would you
expect Depeche Mode to just use one keyboard?  Nope, because it wouldn't
take the music writing skill that using more does.  Same with live PAs.

hmph.  *griN*

zoooom-->

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>See, I disagree.  With a 303, you have your tracks mapped out, and just
>switch between them... raising and lowering levels of sounds.

When have you ever seen someone do a live PA with a 303 and that's it
though? Are we talking about a MC 303? (ick, why waste $$$ on one of those).
Just a 303 is going to do jack squat for you, other than acid sounds. You
still need at the very least a drum machine and some effects mods.

Some people might just pre-program all the banks, but with every live PA
i've ever seen, the people have been using at least 2 303s. They make new
programs on the fly by auditioning them, and then they mix em in or double
up the sounds and such. If they are using just one 303, they usually have
something else like a keyboard to make other sounds besides acid.

Then again, theres always the assfucks that just play their DAT and pretend
to be doing something :)

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Using multiple peices of gear doesn't really mean it requires more musical
talent as much as it does coordination. If you sync everything via midi then
you are essentially controlling them all with one unit. And we know that
it's kind of silly to play multiple synths at once (unless you're captain)
and well...

Let's just say a live PA is somebody playing their own tracks live (not
pre-recorded on cd or vinyl etc)... don't get too technical on me and say
that the sequencer is pre-recorded hehehe... oh well i took a shot at it.

Depeche mode was just awesome =) They really did an excellent live show. The
only thing I always wondered about was why didn't they use a beat machine
instead of a tape machine for their beats? weird. oh well...

- Radianation

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> >
> > True - but what do you think most live pa's do? Are you expecting a band
to
> > play live instruments or depeche mode on keyboards? Just curious. When I
do
> > live pa's I usually avoid using midi if at all possible and sync
everything
> > manually that way I can start and stop and switch tracks and stuff.
Nothing
> > is programmed beyond an 8 measure loop (well sometimes a rare 16
measure)
> > and I punch in parts that I want at any given time. Is this a live pa to
> > you?
> >
>
> Nah, midi is fine.  At least it is more than just one machine.  Would you
> expect Depeche Mode to just use one keyboard?  Nope, because it wouldn't
> take the music writing skill that using more does.  Same with live PAs.
>
> hmph.  *griN*
>
> zoooom-->
>
> K
>


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1. Doormouse
2. Psionic Fistfuck
3. Prototype 909
4. Unibomber
5. Woody VS Hyperactive
6. Doormouse
7. Doormouse

wish list:
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6. Wesley Willis
7. Traffik

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I can only say I have seen 2 live P.A.'s,Atomic Babies,and Green velvet.

Atomic Babies were my first rave. I now worship the atomic babies. (I am 
watching a movie on them right now!)

Green Velvet,Whistle 2,both sucked,same night:)

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1) squarepusher
2) orbital
3) tree
4) punisher
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--- Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net> wrote:
> When is the wrastlin match.  My stumpy lil ass wants some
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 Well I know just about everyone on the list will be at ID this
 weekend, but does anybody know if there's anything goin on in
 Indy this weekend?  Unfortunately I can't make it, so was 
 hoping maybe there was something up for us that can't go. I
 don't have flyers for anything this weekend, so I figured 
 there wasn't much goin on. Anyone with info, please mail me.
 The next party I have a flyer for is Pillow Talk the 18th.

        *Shandi*

 ps. I wonder if I saw any of you at Aqua Center.. I got there 
 around 10:30 I'd say, but I got right in within 10 minutes b/c
 I had pre-sales. I mostly hung out with locals and people I
 already knew, but I made a few new friends.. well, just curious..




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> > whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen

1) Plastikman
2) Delta 9
3) Acid Junkies
4) Prototype 909
5) ESP Woody McBride

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> Uberzone is most DEFINITELY a live fuckin' PA.
> Electronic Drums (i.e. uses drumsticks)
> Computer
> Sequencer,
> samplers
> hell... I don't know what the hell else, but he impressed the SHIT outta
> me.


oh yes, uberzone is hands down the best live PAs i've ever seen.  totally
blew me away when i saw him (detroit about 1.5 years ago).  he had the
entire crowd movin' and just kicked everyone's ass all around the floor.
the coolest thing was he didn't look like he were trying too hard, like no
little creases between his eyes and stuff.  just looked like he was having a
fukkin BLAST.

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you know who rocks it with the girl singers (if he has her come with) is my
friend and local hometown hero, Alex of Bassland.  bassland is defunkt, but alex
is still down to play parties and stuff.  the guy is just amazing, and the
nicest guy you could meet.
anyhow, his vocalist has an AMAZING voice.
in my opninion, better than sarah whatever her name is.

Aaron M wrote:

> WE NEED MORE LIVE P.A.'s @ PARTIES!!! I would really love to see more live
> sets, especially with female vocalists!!! I wanna see some Drum 'n Bass with
> some sweet singing instead of MC'ing for a change... And D.J.'s spin trance
> sets with some awesome Sarah Maclachlan - type vocalist. We need more D.J.'s
> like Colette, who can sing and spin records @ the same time!!!
>
> Anyway... here are the 5 that come to mind...in no part. order...
>
> Dubtribe Sound System
> Noel Sanger w/ Nicole Henry
> Skylab 2000
> Space Girl
> Orbital  ( yeah they're really mainstream, but I saw them a month ago & they
> were impressive.)
>
> I'll be seeing Electric Skychurch in Toledo soon, have heard good things
> about 'em & a friend of mine is trying to book Rabbit in the Moon for his
> party in Nov., so I'll get a chance to see them too...
>
> PLUR-
> Aaron
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ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now it
looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone, but
i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify?

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my favs....
1. Bassland or Alex of Bassland with friends.  all on the fly
programing...nothing pre-programmed at all.
2. Skylab 2000
3.  Delta 9
4.  Dimension 23
5.  Acid Enema (if pre programmed stuff off a comp counts)

dani2@mindspring.com wrote:

> My favs(Danny):
> 1. GreenVelvet(tigh ass sheeyat)
> 2. DanBell(2x) cool little homemade filter box
> 3.Bak*Edit(me he he he) www.mp3.com/bipolar
> 4.AkilahBryant (samples samples)
> 5.Spacelings and Bassheads(detroit) these guys fukkin rok!!(not anymore tho')
>
> >whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
> >heres my list
> >
> >1.speed freak
> >2.hyperactive
> >3.mike dearborn
> >4.acid junkies
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> >
> >hypo
> >
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woops, forgot to mention....
if comps don't count...
5. mooses on acid
6. woody mcbride
DJTronic1@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/2/99 5:03:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
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> << whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
>  >heres my list >>
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> 1. Prophecy of Panic
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live pas:

1 dan curtin
2 barada
3 titonton duvante
4 dbx 
5 todd sines

As if ya didn't know,

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Sterling wrote:

> 2 barada

YA!! barada rwaks too.

fergitted bout him.

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down there 

          no big furthur pics yet.
but a few mo pics an tales, an da PEG FAQ.

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umm as far as production, it is one guy.
when he does live stuff, he sometimes has someone (a friend of his) help out.
i don't know who this other guy is.
right now, the act he is doing is with a dj playing records here and there, and
him using his powerbook, effects, live electronic drum set, and some other gear.

a couple of months ago, he did a live pa with africa bambaata djing.
of all things africa was playing some really dope house from what i heard, as
well as the break beat type of stuff.

acidiz wrote:

> ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now it
> looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone, but
> i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
> guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify?
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I have a DJ friend from Holland that tells me there are some events there 
that are promoted solely for young kids, like ages 9-14 or so.  they are 
daytime events & allow one adult per child.  All techno.  I think this is an 
awesome idea, u guys?

In a message dated 9/1/99 8:50:21 PM, demmon@students.uiuc.edu writes:

<<> >Hey, for those who went to Forever After; who saw the two todlers running
> >around with glowsicks?  They were twirling their little glowsticks around
> >during the Kickinbeats set, but I also saw them various other times
> >throughout the weekend.  I must admit, it was pretty cute.  If I were a
> >parent, I'm not sure if I would expose my children to raves at that young
> >an age, but that's just my opinion. 
> >
> 
Yeah, I met those parents. But the kids were fucking awesome! I got to
share watermelon and suckers with them and hang with them and stuff. Good
rowdy kids who liked to dance and smile.

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Yeah, Atomic Babies are the shit!!!

Saw 'em @ UNITY and they were tight, but Dieselboy was spinning on the next 
stage so I kept going back and forth.

I'll see them this weekend @ GROOVE ATTACK, but even cooler I'll get to meet 
them after the party!!! My friend Danielle from Buffalo knows them and
apparently we're invited to thier hotel afterwards...so that should be dope.

By the way, I hope everyone has a groovy time @ I.D. this weekend, seems 
like most of y'all are headed there and it'll be phat... I expect DETAILED 
reviews from you peeps... esp. of Plastikman, Dave Hollands, Odi and 
Imperial Sound System ( really cool Ragga Jungle ).

I'll be back from the Great White North on Sunday, I wanna go to Clockwork 
Sundays in Columbus. But that may be pushing it. Cleveland to Niagara Falls 
to Toronto back to Cleveland and down to Columbus then back to Cleveland in 
the span of 3 days is quite an itinerary!!! I need a freakin' Lear Jet.

I hope to regale you all with tales of splendor and glory upon the 
conclusion of this stupendous weekend... as you will mesmerize me when you 
chronicle your adventures...

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In a message dated 9/2/99 6:33:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
aaronmyers420@hotmail.com writes:

<< I wanna see some Drum 'n Bass with 
 some sweet singing instead of MC'ing for a change. >>

yeah, us mc's can never be sweet or sing for that matter. ;)

our new vocalist lives in new york... so unfortunately... we only tour with 
her on the east coast. =(  but she does have a sweet voice... and we still 
use her vocals for alot of the new stuff.

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watching you all list your top five favorite PA's would be a hell of a lot more
interesting if you mentioned what it was about them that made them so special.
I've heard most of the artists' material that was mentioned, but very few of
them live.

Otherwise,imho, the thread really has no point.

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> Using multiple peices of gear doesn't really mean it requires more musical
> talent as much as it does coordination. If you sync everything via midi then
> you are essentially controlling them all with one unit. And we know that
> it's kind of silly to play multiple synths at once (unless you're captain)
> and well...

Yah, natch, it would require coordination, but I think it requires more
talent than just that though.  In order to lay synth, bass, etc etc over
each other, you must 
A: Have an understanding of music in general... i.e. major/minor chords
etc etc... and this is either acquired or natural of course.
B:  Be able to bring multiple compnents of sound in, in a way that is
musically dynamic and not dischordant (unless of course you're doing
hardcore, in which case it MUST be dischordant...hee)


To me, this is two (of quite a few) things that makeup 'talent', or at
least the ability to program, play, perform a solid track.  Now, some
peeps can do it live (like yourself), and some can't.  The ones that can't
may be able to write a little ditty with their groovebox, but the dynamics
of the track usually fall short.
Now, of course I'm not including the peeps that have talent, can write
tracks, but can only afford a little groovebox, 303 or what have you.  =)

I'm a tired puppy and I just reread this, and discovered that I failed to
cover any part of my the thought I was initially trying to say... but hell
with it, we'll just run with this.  hee

Kale



> 
> Let's just say a live PA is somebody playing their own tracks live (not
> pre-recorded on cd or vinyl etc)... don't get too technical on me and say
> that the sequencer is pre-recorded hehehe... oh well i took a shot at it.
> 
> Depeche mode was just awesome =) They really did an excellent live show. The
> only thing I always wondered about was why didn't they use a beat machine
> instead of a tape machine for their beats? weird. oh well...
> 
> - Radianation
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
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> 
> > >
> > > True - but what do you think most live pa's do? Are you expecting a band
> to
> > > play live instruments or depeche mode on keyboards? Just curious. When I
> do
> > > live pa's I usually avoid using midi if at all possible and sync
> everything
> > > manually that way I can start and stop and switch tracks and stuff.
> Nothing
> > > is programmed beyond an 8 measure loop (well sometimes a rare 16
> measure)
> > > and I punch in parts that I want at any given time. Is this a live pa to
> > > you?
> > >
> >
> > Nah, midi is fine.  At least it is more than just one machine.  Would you
> > expect Depeche Mode to just use one keyboard?  Nope, because it wouldn't
> > take the music writing skill that using more does.  Same with live PAs.
> >
> > hmph.  *griN*
> >
> > zoooom-->
> >
> > K
> >
> 


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Hell ya, and when he friggin lays into those drums in the middle of a
smooth ass track... UHHHH!
He's just all the fuck over 'em and doesn't even look like he's thinking
about it... just roooooollin with it. (No you little ravers, I'm not
talkin' drugs...sheesh)

And some of the sounds he pulls out o' those machines, dood, I swear, he
could just drop one of em in the middle of my sould and leave it there...
I'd die a satisfied individual.  UhhhH!

=)
hee

Kale

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, acidiz wrote:

> 
> 
> > Uberzone is most DEFINITELY a live fuckin' PA.
> > Electronic Drums (i.e. uses drumsticks)
> > Computer
> > Sequencer,
> > samplers
> > hell... I don't know what the hell else, but he impressed the SHIT outta
> > me.
> 
> 
> oh yes, uberzone is hands down the best live PAs i've ever seen.  totally
> blew me away when i saw him (detroit about 1.5 years ago).  he had the
> entire crowd movin' and just kicked everyone's ass all around the floor.
> the coolest thing was he didn't look like he were trying too hard, like no
> little creases between his eyes and stuff.  just looked like he was having a
> fukkin BLAST.
> 
> acidiz
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Yup, Uberzone, one guy.... can't renember his name though>

Prolly just a friend or sound guy tweakin' out one of the machines.

Then again, what the hell do I know. hee
Kale

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> 
> ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now it
> looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone, but
> i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
> guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify?
> 
> thanks
> 
> acidiz
> 
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Ya, and they put out a rekkid... OldSkool or somethin' like that.  Pretty
good, but I like it w/o Bambatta in it.  I like Uberzone raw synth
sound... really clear and cold.  With a rippin bass beat and occasional
purrs in the back.... especially the 303esque buttery purrs that he throws
in.

kale

On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:

> umm as far as production, it is one guy.
> when he does live stuff, he sometimes has someone (a friend of his) help out.
> i don't know who this other guy is.
> right now, the act he is doing is with a dj playing records here and there, and
> him using his powerbook, effects, live electronic drum set, and some other gear.
> 
> a couple of months ago, he did a live pa with africa bambaata djing.
> of all things africa was playing some really dope house from what i heard, as
> well as the break beat type of stuff.
> 
> acidiz wrote:
> 
> > ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now it
> > looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone, but
> > i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
> > guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > acidiz
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his name is Q, and before he was Uberzone, he was Death Method. which was a rather
scary industrial band.
matter of fact, Q did the music for my shops commercial.  not sure when he did the
music, cuz we have had the same fucking commercial for like ummmm.....shit, 4 or 5
years now.
he is one talented mother fucker tho.

DreamSequence wrote:

> Yup, Uberzone, one guy.... can't renember his name though>
>
> Prolly just a friend or sound guy tweakin' out one of the machines.
>
> Then again, what the hell do I know. hee
> Kale
>
> On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, acidiz wrote:
>
> >
> > ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now it
> > looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone, but
> > i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
> > guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify?
> >
> > thanks
> >
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Oh my god if only i had a peg right now ... the night i would have...the fun 
...the joy ... the ...oh what the fock i have pegs and iam drunk just no one 
to play peg the girl with...boo hoo
whendee

>>down there
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>but a few mo pics an tales, an da PEG FAQ.
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If ou guys are all into wrestling and such well For one i will defiantl be 
in that fucking mud pit as i missed it last time ...but early that day ... 
in milwaukee there is a block party (which i have a whole stage 
planned...local bands and djs...hopefully the cowboy crew...COME ON 
ARNO...COME ON BILL will do some wiked ass tag team shite) but one of the 
bars on the block is having actuall pro wrasslers from noonm till 7pm check 
out Onmilwaukee.com in a couple of days for more info ... if you decided to 
come out on the way to ww2 i will be the purple haired girl at the pirate 
radio booth

thats it
whendee

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IT is the first time in 4 or is it 5 or 3 years that FUCK.. I ca nnot 
believe i am actually here(and not in  agood way!)

I used to do it all the time , i WOuld move so fast , talk to so many eople, 
get so HOTT & go home wantin MORE!!!	 felt so alive like i was breaking 
through all the bullshite spoonfe to me I was evolving into...Ya know im a 
trying to write something all meaningfull and I cant CAN NOT do it at some 
dumb ass club playing "techno" 	 do not get what is so appealing about 
setting drunk(which i am) and listening to the same FUCKIN beat for hours on 
end, chain smoking w/glowsticks and spending hoursto look"right" for 
whoever...scary thing is i was wearing 4 year old jeans and a tube top which 
i dumpster dived and didnt even wash and "fit" right in...


Can this change ... do we want it to? DO the majority have to settle for 
SHITE for the underground to survive? They look like they are having fun .. 
is it just my ass shakes to a differnet beat or are they really that 
brainwashed?

whendee

sorry i just couldnt belive my eyes/ears...All i wanted to do was shake my 
ass and the dj couldnt even throw on some booty house

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minimal state - saturday, september 11, 1999 - indianapolis, indiana 

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On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:02:21 -0400 Radianation <radianation@louipimps.com> wrote:
>Depeche mode was just awesome =) They really did an excellent live show. The
>only thing I always wondered about was why didn't they use a beat machine
>instead of a tape machine for their beats? weird. oh well...

ya gotta love 101 when the they make a big deal out of the part before every show where they "start the tape!".  so silly!!  DM live was one of the most awesome experiences for a young techno geek to be tho!  hearing 'clean' on a big ass EV soundsystem outside at a natural amphitheatre was just too cool!!


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> > whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen

1. barada
2. barada
3. barada
4. barada
5. umm...bryan zentz

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> end, chain smoking w/glowsticks and spending hoursto look"right" for 


Ok, I'm sorry that out of your entire email this is the one line that
caught me... but I couldn't help it....

How do you chain smoke a glow stick?

EEEEE HE HE HE HEEEE!

Boy I'm tired.  *grin*

Kale


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So, last night (tonight, whateva) Peter Mannix (Fiz) dropped into Urbana
and proceeded to bounce the roof off of the U of I Student Union.  
Playing his standard Techno shite?  (heh heh, Techno's boring...hee!)
Oh no, instead of playing what everyone expected and waited breathlessly
to hear... what comes outta the little 2" speakers that they had for the
midrange.... RIPPIN JUNGLE AND HARDCORE!!!! WOO HOO

Not all the modern grindy, dirty overly distorted modern hardcore... oh
no, good old fashioned oldskool hardcore!! Tracks circa 94-95.... hells to
the bells ya!
High point?

Fuckin' Bombscare on 45rpm!!!! Yeeeaaaah boyeeee!
hee

Then later, at the after party (we got kicked outta the union at midnight)
Peter spun Tek on 3 tables...woo boy!  

Yay Peter!  
Techno sux!
 
heh heh hehhhhhh

You guys all missed it... too bad so sad.  *griN*

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In a message dated 9/2/99 11:39:53 PM Central Daylight Time, 
djnickel@earthlink.net writes:

<< acidiz wrote:
 
 > ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now 
it
 > looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone, 
but
 > i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
 > guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify? >>

he usually has a DJ scratching with him also..Simply Jeff when I saw 
him..they threw down somethig real nice  =)  But I've never seen him with 
anyone else other than a DJ scratchin for him..=)

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theeo can scratch

so shut up

ID *remember i am gonna run everyone over


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 09:27:32 1999
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i don't know who this latest guy is...he's got a new one for the few gigs he's
playing around here, i know it ain't jeff......

DJTronic1@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/2/99 11:39:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
> djnickel@earthlink.net writes:
>
> << acidiz wrote:
>
>  > ok, now i got all nostalgic and dug out the pics i took of uberzone.  now
> it
>  > looks like there was two guys, not just one.  i'm no expert on uberzone,
> but
>  > i _thought_ it was only one dude.  i dunno, it could have been some sound
>  > guy fiddling with something.  could someone please clarify? >>
>
> he usually has a DJ scratching with him also..Simply Jeff when I saw
> him..they threw down somethig real nice  =)  But I've never seen him with
> anyone else other than a DJ scratchin for him..=)
>
> Tronic



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 12:18:11 1999
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later bitches!!!!!!!!!!

see you all there!!!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 12:54:14 1999
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I'm glad to help ya out steph...if ya need me to post more useless stuff
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 13:02:52 1999
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> > jesus paul... I don't know what this track is that you're trying so hard 
>to
> > defend, but as one of the more prominent figures in house music I think
> > you'd have learned to accept some criticizm by now.
>
>I dunno, if someone has the right to slam on the track, then I don't see
>why Paul shouldn't have the right to stand up and explain where he's
>comin' from with the track.  Personally I didn't enjoy the track as



can i please see the post where the track was slammed in the first place? 
maybe i missed somthing....
**lora**

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>i don't think being "underground" prohibits a person from reaching the 
>world
>with their music.

exactly....
to quote the great michael mccusty: "if you want to be underground, dig a 
hole and crawl in it....the rest of us will be raving"
(i love that and use it all the time)
teeheehee...
see most of you fools in like 12 hours...
**lora**

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>Ha, I've been off the list for so long that I almost forgot the most
>important pre-party formality! TELLING OTHERS WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO WEAR!!


does anyone ever REALLY wear what they said they were going to? i know i 
never have....
ill be the girl wearing big pants and prolly a t-shirt and ive got hair and 
some shoes with three stripes on them and oh yeah, ill be the one whos piss 
ass drunk and prolly peeing on you...
**lora**

---god, how am i ever gonna make it thru a day of work?

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In a message dated 9/2/99, 11:03:22 PM, arnoarr4@milwpc.com writes:
<<6. Wesley Willis>>


I totally agree with this one! He'd whoop a horse's ass.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 13:50:40 1999
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ok sister, i didnt know exactly how i felt abou tyou until right 
now...except for the tube top thing, ive felt the exact same way you do and 
thought i was the only one...glad to know im not the only one having 
doubts....
**lora**


>I used to do it all the time , i WOuld move so fast , talk to so many 
>eople,
>get so HOTT & go home wantin MORE!!!	 felt so alive like i was breaking
>through all the bullshite spoonfe to me I was evolving into...Ya know im a
>trying to write something all meaningfull and I cant CAN NOT do it at some
>dumb ass club playing "techno" 	 do not get what is so appealing about
>setting drunk(which i am) and listening to the same FUCKIN beat for hours 
>on
>end, chain smoking w/glowsticks and spending hoursto look"right" for
>whoever...scary thing is i was wearing 4 year old jeans and a tube top 
>which
>i dumpster dived and didnt even wash and "fit" right in...



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At 09:08 PM 9/2/99 -0400, you wrote:
>What constitutes a live PA to you guys? i know some people seem to think a
>dj with a 303 is a live pa... (i don't)
>Just curious.


DUDE A DJ WITH A 303 IS A LIVE PA TO ME.

BUT EVEN MORE SO, A "LOUI PIMP" IS THE TRUE DEFINITION OF A LIVE PA!!!!1

WERD!

CHRIS

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> Otherwise,imho, the thread really has no point.
--
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> >Last fall I was at the Fireside Bowl in Chicago
> >for a Blonde Redhead/ Quixotic show.
> >While I was in the bathroom stall relieving myself,
> >who should bust open the door but all
> >6'6", 300lbs of Wesley Willis.
> >He just looked at me, shut the door, and walked away.
> >
> >Even though the whole experience lasted no longer
> >than 3 seconds, I haven't been the same ever since.
--
when Wesley played at O'Kayz Corral here in Madison last year, i got to be
headbutted repeatedly by him...in a friendly way. it's his way of saying
"Hi." he made me repeat the words "rock" and "roll" after each impact .

he's a cool guy...totally entertaining. comes up with the greatest lines
ever, and walks around wearing a cassette recorder around his neck. awesome.
.
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> ill be the one whos piss ass drunk and prolly peeing on you...
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> > ill be the one whos piss ass drunk and prolly peeing on you...
>--
>heh...and i'll be the one at the front of the line...yee haw!
>.
>fratboy

and id be glad to pee on anyone in a hawiian shirt....
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the five best live sets i have seen,
1, delta-9 (in my parents basement frying the electricity in the house
forever)
2, ritchie(everytime)
3, hardfloor (intelect)
4, woody + daftpunk (furthur)
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huhhaahuhaahaaaaaaaa. Oh my goodness. At least it wasn't 9 and 1/2 weeks.
phil
p.s. what's up Pix?
Mark Walsh wrote:

> 8 weeks??
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> yeah right.
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> > > on tuesday it was one of my co-workers who discovered this. His name is
> > > Todd Bracken and my man knows some shit. Five minutes after he sent the
> > > e-mail to msn the hotmail servers were shut down. How about that for fast
> > > actin mofo's. Not to brag just thought that todd should get some props,
> > > you know how gates and the rest of the cronies at microsoft are.  cool,
> >
> > Actually, not to be a bitch, but that hole was known in the underground
> > for about 8 weeks.  The acknowledgement is generally given to "Hackers
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> > > ill be the one whos piss ass drunk and prolly peeing on you...
> >--
> >heh...and i'll be the one at the front of the line...yee haw!
> >.
> >fratboy
>
> and id be glad to pee on anyone in a hawiian shirt....
> **hates-frat-boys-lora**
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golden showers and hawaiin shirts...a state of mind.

to all at ID this weekend:
i'll be the fratboy looking fucker in a hawaiian shirt. find me and piss on
me. it's okay...really
.
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On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 DJangelboi@aol.com wrote:

> 1) squarepusher
> ... hasn't seen squarepusher yet, wonders if he ever will

Yea, I'd most likely fly anywhere in the US to see Squarepusher... He's
one of the last few people I have left on my list of people to see before
I die...  Does Portishead count as a live PA?  :)

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help me, please....i dont wanna get lost or stuckin traffic on the 
way....can i get directions to id from madison?
thanx a bunch...
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Did the lauryn girl that needed a ride ever find 1?  We are leaving
first thing in the morn if u still need 1.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:32:26 EDT
From: "Aaron M" <aaronmyers420@hotmail.com>

>WE NEED MORE LIVE P.A.'s @ PARTIES!!! I would really love to see more
>live sets, especially with female vocalists!!! I wanna see some Drum 'n
>Bass with some sweet singing instead of MC'ing for a change... And D.J.'s
>spin trance sets with some awesome Sarah Maclachlan - type vocalist. We
>need more D.J.'s like Colette, who can sing and spin records @ the same
>time!!!

i agree on 2 things: need more PA's at parties, and i think some nice
female vocals on dnb would be nice... might actually make that shit
tolerable :P

there is one trance remix to a sarah maclachlan track that's really really
old S.M song... i can't remember what the hell that song is called,
however, one line that i can recollect is "in this silence i
belieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve".  really really good track.  if anyone
knows it, please reply privately :-)

yeah... the college kids are back.  last night i saw several swarms of
frat boys and sorostitutes walking around.... delta delta delta, can i
helpya helpya helpya?????  fucking whores...

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> Yea, I'd most likely fly anywhere in the US to see Squarepusher... He's
> one of the last few people I have left on my list of people to see before
> I die...
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Here is when I'm planning on going if anyone needs a ride or
wants to car pool.

I know the Kindred Groove Crew and friends are leaving on Sat
at Noon.

I am leaving on Friday night around 7-8pm.
Then comming back to STL late Friday night.

Then leaving to go back on Sat around 5-6pm.
Then comming back home for good on Sunday morning after hearing
Richie for a bit or crashing and then comming home on Monday
afternoon.

I know KG and BK are going to be camping out together with like
7-9 tents so anyone else who want to come and camp with us is
more than welcome.

Peace,

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it is called "silence" and it is by delirium....absolutely one of my
favorite tracks ever...i am a huge sarah mclachlan fan and that song is
just gorgeous...it's kinda rabbit-in-the-moonish sounding in a
way...<shrugs> but i love it...

i also love that song that rabbit in the moon actually did of sarah
mclachlan's "possession"...their remix of "fear" is also okay, but im not
as found of it as i am "possession" or "silence"....

there are also remixes out of "sweet surrender"...if you buy the single
for that song, they are on there...i think one of them is by Roni Size and
the other one is by Uberzone...they are aiight...

she has a CD out of her B-sides and remixes which has the possession and
fear remixes and also a remix by lunar sol (i think that is their name..i
get confused)...

peace
lauryn


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Alrite i'm unsubbing for the weekend even tho most the list we'll be at
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 16:39:11 1999
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> no, he's talking about a sorta thing that some 
> people do to jungle..that's very similar to "up 
> rocking"...thats what b-boys do before they go down
> on the floor.. sorta stepping back and forth... hard
> to describe, but completely different then the 
> detroit stomp/chicago hop/whatever.

i don't know if anybody said this already but i've got
about 40 digests i haven't got time to go through
quite yet so i'll try to explain now. (diagram below)
                           ^
if you're facing this way, | and your feet are in L +
R, you move L to l, and R kicks back a little behind
you (bend the knee), then step back down on R and move
L back to the original spot, as you do that kick R out
a little (straighten the knee), then step back down
with R again. repeat this. then when you can do it
(fast!), throw in some sideways kicks with the left
then the right, mix it up some more and do a spin.
repeat some more. =]
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in no particular order:

coldcut:  a nice integration of all media at one time, albeit maybe not 
exactly inspiring a frenzy on the dancefloor... sure as hell a little more 
interesting to watch than a bunch of tweaked buttons.
tortoise:  again, not exactly the most exciting music in the world, but bar 
none waaaay better in a live environment, then sitting in your room 
contemplating slitting your wrists.  johnny machine kicks major ass.
dj skull:  taking me kinda back to the first mission underground, i remember 
seeing that man kick a hole in my fucking head.  back when chicago hardtechno 
basically told chicago house to go the fuck to sleep.  dj skull melted the 
dancefloor with hard, simple ultimatums to move your ass.
my bloody valentine:  albeit not exactly a techno act, i've seen them three 
times... the first being one of the most amazing shows i had ever seen in my 
lifetime... complete with visuals, lighting, abrasive guitar lines, and an 
electronic drumtrigger... what the hell else is live techno all about.
uk subs: punk rock rar rar rar

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i'm leaving now (later than i had planned, grrr!)

if you are "roughing it" while you are there and happen to have access to
e-mail and want to meet up with me, you can send me a page at 
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I shall see some of you there.

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anythin ggoing on in the cincy area tis weekend? i know Feelgood will be at 
red zone but anyting else?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 17:40:54 1999
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my favorite live pa is computer controlled
*shameless self promotion*

tr909, tb303, sh101, tr707, tr727, fr777, esq1, sq80, r8, drumstation, 
tx81z, mmt-8, the list goes on...

jesse

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- surreal productions/columbus, ohio
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 18:16:19 1999
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Yeah, the track you're talking about is called "Silence" and it is by 
Delirium. I LOVE that track BIG TIME... My friend just bought it in vinyl. 
I've never heard it @ a party or anything though...

It's more melodic than the types of Trance that I usually like, but her 
voice is awesome!!!

On my way out the door for Niagara...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 18:30:44 1999
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hey kids... here's all the info again for what's happening in Omaha
saturday nite...
i'll be a nice guy and pot directions to all of the lists tonite....

also.... if you are in need of a place  to crash after the party so you
can drive home rested, please e-mail me... i can get you hooked up...

AND... there will be a Free end-of-summer/afterparty in the park on
Sunday.  i will be making ffliers for that today and will have them at
the party.  Monday is a holiday, so please consider joining us in the
park for food, DJs, beer, whatevah...

peace and love...

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September 4th 1999
StardusProdukshunz bring you
A NEW BEGINNING
Omaha, Nebraska
September 4th 1999, prepare yourself for a new beginning featuring a
clean, two room 15000 square foot venue with TWO EVMT4 40000 watt
systems.  Intelligent lighting, lasers, video mixing, and giveaways
will be provided.  Our dj lineup for the evening is as follows :
NIGEL RICHARDS : 611 Records, Philly, : Nigel is no stranger to dance
music. As the founder of the record label and store 611, he constantly
has
the most bangin selection.   His techno and house are shure to make you
music. As the founder of the record label and store 611, he constantly
has
the most bangin selection.   His techno and house are shure to make you
move in ways you never thought possible.  Keep your eyes and ears open
for
one of his famous intros. a mind blowing 2 HOUR SET!!! Make sure to catch
his 611 Mix Series mixtapes and Cd's available anywhere fine music is
sold!
TIMESTRETCH : Advance Recordings, Boston : Timestretch is one of the top
stateside junglists as well as the founder of Advance Recordings, one of
the top us d&b labels.  Come witness his utter devastation to the
dancefloor when he drops his dubplates! Trainspotters beware, these
unreleased choons are deadly, believe!
DAN DELIVERANCE : Integrated Recordings, Delaware : Having played such
memorable East Coast parties such as Buzz and Fever alongside greats such
as Dieselboy and Scott Henry, Dans reputation was already larger than
life
when he moved to the midwest. Since residing here, he has made
dancefloors
go crazy from Kansas City to New Orleans with his flawless techno
mixing.If you have not been fortunate enough to catch Dan's sound then
dont miss this opportunity!
SWIFTROCK & STREAK : San Francisco : These unbelievable turntablists will
make an undisputable argument for the turntable as a musical instrument.
Swiftrock was the 1998 VESTAX WORLD CHAMPION!!  On four dexx, they
promise
to provide you with an out of this world experience! You cannot imagine
the skratches and juggles that these two are capable of.  For all the
hiphop headz.
THREEJAY & SEVEN : disco pimps, Chicago : If you have frequented Chicago
and Detroit parties, then chances are you have heard these two house
masters.  Just on the start of their tour, they will provide a 4 table
house performance that will make you groove.  If you dont know who JACK
is, you  betta axe somebody! chitown flava
SPREE : Happy League, Minneapolis : Known for increasing the vibes inna
arena, this midwest favourite is guaranteed to draw reaction.  His
positivly influenced music will be sure to put a smile on your face and
make you want to hug somebody. Strictly 'Ardcore Mate!!
SOURCE : Treefort/Techstyles, Los Angeles : Already well known for his
mixing in the south and west coast, Source is guaranteed to drop some
science!  His production on Treefort and Techstyles labels is among some
mixing in the south and west coast, Source is guaranteed to drop some
science!  His production on Treefort and Techstyles labels is among some
of the best stateside. Be prepared for some smashin junglist action with
many of his own tracks thrown in.
Watch the dubplates spin round and round, smell the acetate. Big up!
UGLY BILL aka PEACEMAKER : San Diego, KC : This Kansas City Favourite
Junglist moved to San Diego and established himself there as a crowd
pleaser and selektah.  We happily bring him back to the midwest to show
off his skillz. Make some noise for his return!
DEATHSQUAD : LUNATIK AND JUMP Omaha, Kingston, Tokyo, whereva :  Wherever
these two touch down they mash up the party.  With a unique blend of
upfront jungle, hiphop, and dancehall, these two have a reputation for
destroying dancefloors and everything else in the venue! With their
reputation for crazy antics, you never know what they are going to do
next. Whatever it is, you can be shure that you dont want to miss it!!
innarubadubstylee SEEN?!!!!!
TONY MARKHAM: Kansas City : Tony has been a name long respekted in the
midwest and has played many parties. If you havent seen Tony yet, then
you
are missing out on an upliftin house groove! Come give respekt to a
midwest veteran, who will surely make you move.
GUTHOOK : Deathsquad, Omaha : This is a name that people have been
talking
about in the junglist community, with a name like that, how can you avoid
attention? Come see what the hype is about, as Guthook plays a truly
WIKKED set of upfront Drum n bass!  Expect the traxx to be nasty and the
mixing to be FLAWLESS! BOH BOH!
SPACE COWBOY : Lincoln, Ne : This bwoy plays some nice trance and tech
house bizness.  Undastand that he will do whatever it takes to get you
bumpin and jumpin.  get nekkid to score extra points!!!
LEE : We're Everywhere, Omaha : Lee has been in the Omaha scene for
awhile, mixing all sorts of music.  He has prepared a special set of
Swedish 
tribal techno for your dancing entertainment pleasure! GetReady!
LOGIK : Omaha : This whizkid is new on the scene, but knows the ropes
already!  He is versatile in his selection of tracks, as he has much
downtempo, oldskool hiphop, house, and breakbeat tunes to throw out.. Get
here early and support the future of the scene!
As you can see, this event is going to be slammin!  If you have never
attended a party in this area before, this is the one to make the trip
to.
Big respekt given for all out of town people who are planning to attend
or
have attended a Stardust Produkshun in the past.  This one promises to be
the best one yet!  please remember no drugz, alcohol, weapons, or markers
:)
info lines are as follows :
OMAHA :
-402.546.2539
-402.554.RAVE
-402.552.7731
St. Louis
-314.567.2041
Kansas City
-816.881.8144
-816.881.8144
email contact info : agodbout@s-cwis.unomaha.edu
for out of town ticket reservations and guest list inquiries or to be on
our mailing list, leave a message on 402.546.2539 with all information
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since ii'm at it.  here are my top 5 real fast:

5. Skylab 2000
4. The Alliance
3. Dj Sy + Dj Demo
2. Adam Beyer vs. Cari Lekebusch
1. Dubtribe

Was richie hawtin live at further?  fuck i can't remember...

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i never thought id give into such a useless thread but here...

1)DUBTRIBE
2)Skylab2000
3)Prototype909
4)Richie
5)Tony Rohr (of prototype909)

**lora**

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Parental Guidance STRONGLY suggested....
Have yo finga next to da volume at ALL times!

http://welcome.to/mobass.com

Click tha skeleton, Mo' Crue,TRUNK, go to da bottom of the
picture.......die.

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heheh i rented a car! heheh =)  yes, somehow i managed to get ahold of a
rental car and now i just gotta get my happy ass to bumblefukk illinois...

so just to let ya know...yes i have a way there....i will be there and
look for me if you end up going to...ill be that girl...you know...the one
with the hair and the pants...the one that dances...hahah..right...

anyway...catch ya later and see you at ID!
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You might be a Redneck Jedi if...

You ever heard the phrase, "May the force be with y'all."

Your Jedi robe is camouflage.

You have ever used your light saber to open a bottle of Bud Light.

At least one wing of your X-Wings is primer colored.

You can easily describe the taste of an Ewok.

You have ever had a land-speeder up on blocks in your yard.

The worst part of spending time on Dagobah is the dadgum skeeters.

Wookies are offended by your B.O.

You have ever used the force to get yourself another beer so you
didn't have to wait for a commercial.

You have ever used the force in conjunction with fishing/bowling.

Your father has ever said to you, "Shoot, son come on over to the
dark side...it'll be a hoot."

You have ever had your R-2 unit use its self-defense electro-shock
thingy to get the barbecue grill to light.

You have a confederate flag painted on the hood of your
land-speeder.

You ever fantasized about Princess Leah wearing Daisy Duke shorts.

You have the doors of your X-wing welded shut and you have to get in through 
the window.

Although you had to kill him, you kinda thought that Jabba the Hutt
had a pretty good handle on how to treat his women.

You have a cousin who bears a strong resemblance to Chewbacca.

You suggested that they outfit the Millennium Falcon with redwood
deck.

You were the only person drinking Jack Daniels during the cantina
scene.

If you hear . . . "Luke, I am your father . . . and your uncle."


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On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Adrienne Rahhal wrote:
0->Ok, do a lot of peeps on this list go to U of M?  I go to EMU...just thought 
0->maybe I'd get to know some of ya.
0->
0->adrienne
0->

Well, there's me, there's Doris (who still hasn't resubbed, I don't
think)... Petey, Jon and Jeff are all on again off again mw-ravers..

if you want to get to know some more u of m partykids, come to my
party tomorrow nite...

<shameless self-promotion>

Sept. 4th in the League Underground

State:Awake presents Trilogy... a 100% free event

the lineup for the night is 

	T-linder (10-11PM)  House
	Gary G. aka Legal Alien (11-12)  Jungle
	The Equinox (12-2)  Techno

Come early and ready to dance.  Free water, candy, punch.  Full
light/visual display.

The League is located at 911 North University, Ann Arbor (it's the
building with the sidewalk all torn up in front)...

</shameless self-promotion>

hope to see you there.  Email me if you need directions anyone...


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Wasn't sure if this was mentioned already on this list; I did a search
and didn't see anything mentioned in the subject headers so my apologies
if this has been mentioned.  I realize it's a bit out of the way for
most on this list, but it's not too far of a drive for those east of
lake Michigan.


                                   Intregal
                                   09.04.99; pittsburgh

                      richie hawtin
          3am-8am; decks, efx & 909
                      minus, plus 8

                     john acquaviva
                           11pm-2am
                 definitive, plus 8

                    kooky scientist
                      2am-3am; live
                 telepathic, plus 8

                       clark warner
                           9pm-11pm
                      minus, plus 8

                                   www.phryl.com
                                   416.760.3161

                                   h.o.s.
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Hi all,

It's been many months since I sent an update so...

Here's the latest news on skylab2000:

First off: The video from "Bottle Rocket" is now online.

http://www.selekta.com/multimedia/video/skylab2000/

This is a 60 minute live video of a skylab2000 show at Tracks 2000 in
Washington DC. It was shot on July 4th at a wicked three room party in ou=
r
nations capitol. Great party!

I know I've previously mentioned that the tracks "Shak" and "Rollergirl"
are each out separate 12"'s from Phatt Phunk records, but if you don't
wanna spend yer hard earned cash, these tracks are also available in MP3
format for free! Get to em by going to http://skylab2000.com/sounds.htm o=
r
http://mp3.com/skylab2000. There's also now a 4 song sampler MP3 on there=
,
so you can hear some other tracks.

Phatt Phunk's website is at http://www.phattphunk.com

There's a brand new skylab2000 single in the works, which is a crazy acid=

trance journey. It's still untitled but we have been playing it live with=

great response. We plan have to a remix on the back, and are talking to a=

very special DJ about doing it. Stayed tuned for the announcement! It wil=
l
be big.

In a few weeks we are off to play some shows in Asia. It's the first trip=

to play in asia for us, so we are quite excited. Hong Kong on the 18th! I=
f
any of you will be there by chance, write me for guest list info.

Upcoming shows include the massive Zen Festival in LA, Austin, Halloween =
in
Houston, San Diego, Phildelphia, and a Fl tour including Pensacola,
Sarasota, and Talahassee.

As usual, check out our web site for masses more info at
http://skylab2000.com

Write me for more info or if you need a press or promo kit.

peace

   |_e_/~  Dennis Barton <db@skylab2000.com>
     )     skylab2000
   ~\/\    Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
      /    http://skylab2000.com

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I'd just like to remind you guys that our party is tommorow night at
the League Underground.  It starts at 10 and runs until 2 or so...

In addition, I was informed this afternoon (thanks for all the notice)
that non U of M students will need to be identified at the door.  You
are all still welcome, but League Programming is insisting that you
sign in.  So, if you don't go to school here and would like to attend,
please email me your name as well as the names of anyone you might be
bringing and I'll put you on the list. If you are a Michigan student,
please don't forget your student ID.  You will not be allowed in
without one.

I'm heading out around 5PM saturday afternoon to help set up. You
non-Michiganites need to give me your names before then.  Thanks.  And
sorry for the inconvenience.

one love,
greg

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On September 4th, State:Awake in conjunction with The University of
Michigan Alumni Association and League Programming offer you

TRILOGY... a 100% FREE event

Held in the League Underground - a clean, legal, secure U of M venue.
The party runs from 10 to 2 AM so get there early.  Free water, candy,
and punch.

the lineup for the night is:

10-11... T-Linder (house)
11-12... Legal Alien (jungle)
12-2...  The Equinox (techno)

The Equinox is currently promoting his new full-length CD out October
2nd

This is our 2nd event - cost free and staying that way.  Come out to
dance.  Come out to hear some good music.  Come out to have fun.  But
please, leave the bullshit at home this time.  Your attendance means
we can continue to offer you a clean, safe, and legal alternative once
a month.  Support DIY...

Maps of the Ann Arbor vicinity can be found online at
http://www.umich.edu/~newsinfo/maps.html

On the map at http://www.umich.edu/~newsinfo/ccamp.html, the Michigan
League is labelled #15.

Your comments, questions, criticisms, and contributions to our efforts
are always welcome... correspondence can be directed to this address
or dpayer@umich.edu

one love,
State:Awake


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jus in case anyjuan was lookin fer mo pick-up ("chat-up") lines.....

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     Went out last night with Rod S in Newcastle, blitzed.
     
     Was in a pub and I went up to a pretty girl and said 
     
     Me: 'excuse me, can you get me some toilet roll out the girls toilet 
     please, coz ther isnt any in the boys and Ive got diarohea'
     
     Girl: 'no' or something
     
     Me: 'bah' so I go to the bar and pretend to get some netty roll and 
     run to the bog.
     
     I come back 
     Girl: 'feel better now?'
     Me: 'Yes, but me shit keeps running out me bot, have you got a tampon 
     I can stick up there'
     Girl 'yak'
     
     I goes of then comes back
     
     Me: 'that was a poor chat up line'
     
     Girl: 'yes, is that you best'
     
     Me: 'Ha, ill gget straight to the point - U wanna come back to mine 
     and suck me big cock'
     
     Girl: lamped is in the ear, bahhh
     

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whendee mesich wrote:

> Oh my god if only i had a peg right now ... the night i would
> have...the fun
> ...the joy ... the ...oh what the fock i have pegs and iam drunk just
> no one
> to play peg the girl with...boo hoo
> whendee

my nipples STILL hurt from furthur..........

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whendee mesich wrote:

> If ou guys are all into wrestling and such well For one i will
> defiantl be
> in that fucking mud pit as i missed it last time ...but early that day
> ...
> in milwaukee there is a block party (which i have a whole stage
> planned...local bands and djs...hopefully the cowboy crew...COME ON
> ARNO...COME ON BILL will do some wiked ass tag team shite) but one of
> the
> bars on the block is having actuall pro wrasslers from noonm till 7pm
> check
> out Onmilwaukee.com in a couple of days for more info ... if you
> decided to
> come out on the way to ww2 i will be the purple haired girl at the
> pirate
> radio booth
>
> thats it
> whendee

ya! jus weaseled outta werkin dat weekend, so at least ME will be there
rawkin out in a vain attempt to redeem da furthur fiasco yo.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 03 21:44:56 1999
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This totally sucks, all my D&D books got burned into nothingness this week 
during a friends apartment fire--so i guess no more running sessions at 
raves for me


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OK, I know ID is this weekend... but I was wondering if any of you party
goers who live in the Iowa/Southern Minnesota want a ride to "A New
Beginning"  I think DJ.com just posted most of the info on it.  
As of now I have 2 seats left in my car (possibly 3).  I will be traveling
down on I-35 and then west on I-80 to Omaha, so if you're on the way and
want a ride just email me privately.  I will be leaving sometime Saturday
afternoon and will probably try and crash somewhere after Sunday during the
day.  

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Please contact us again!

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Damn very impressed by trunks tracks .... 3 words .. hard as hell!!!!!Some 
nice abstract breakore from hell (wonder why this foo hasnt gotten any 
releases on kultbox or dhr)... well keep up the good work ..............

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Welcome to the House of Babylon--
Your connection to all that is funky!

September 18th, 1999
PiLLOW TALK
Pt One of the Pajama Jama Jam

Featuring the following talent:


DJ LARS
Formerly on MTV's THE REAL WORLD, Lars is now making waves
in the house/garage nation.  Check out his new mix CD on
SM:)E Communications (free give-aways all night!).

JAMES PENNINGTON
AKA The Suburban Knight, James makes his way to us from
Detroit.  His unique style of techno has made him quite
in-demand.  His many 12-inch releases have become staples
in the techno community and e is considered by most to
be a genius in his craft!

STEFAN MANCEAU
>From StarBaby Records out of Paris, France, Stefan is more
than a pretty face!  His mutated, edumacated, and sophisticated
brand of techno funk will be a welcomed release from the 4/4
of "normal" techno!

INCUBUS
Fresh out of conquering the Hotlanta/Orlando dancefloors
at many a'club and rave, Incubus' mix of progression and
breaks will trance you into anotha' world!  Not for
the squeemish!

THREEJAY vs DJ SEVEN
>From the UndaGround Elements and Disco Pimps crew
out of Chi-town, a special 4 x 2 tag team disco
pimp house set from two rising stars!

CHOCOLATE: The Freaky AfroNaut (tm)
Not only will he be spinning some funky tech-house,
but he'll be debutting some 100% original tracks in
the mix as well, showing you what "fusion" (techno/
house) is all about!

K-STEP
Along with national recording artist MC SPI, K-Step
will be showing you what "tricknology" is all about!
His jump-up/tech-step blend will jack you and his
skills will amaze you!  Debutting his latest scratch
creation:  The Freudien Slip Scratch!

CHARLES PAUL
Progressive house/trance that is some of the most
beautiful music you've ever heard!  Get their early
and Charles will start off your journey right!

-------------------------------------------------------
$15 all nite w/ PJs
or before midnight

$20 after midenight w/o PJs

Sleeping attire is not required but strongly encouraged!
All DJs are comfirmed and will be appearing in their
sleeping attire.

Sound bi LOG 2
Lights and Bubble Machine bi Introspective Laser and Lighting
Video Mixing on two big screens by Technology Detroit

For more info please contact the
House of Babylon Broduction @
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Be on the look-out for free and disc. tix
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and Sunday night @ INTERSTELLAR DREAMFEST



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    there's a party in Fargo tomorrow (saturday), check  701-298-5224 for
more info...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 04 00:30:01 1999
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Does anyone have any information on Empire going on in Chicago tomarrow 
night? Please send me the info ASAP. Thanks

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> whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
> heres my list

no order.

Maud
Richard Devine
Natural Born Sucker
Doormouse
Mick Parks

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----- Original Message -----
From: Director of Operations <h_of_b@hotmail.com>

> ***DON'T FORGET*********************************************
> September 18th, 1999  ---> PiLLOW TALK
> featuring DJ LARS, JAMES PENNINGTON, STEFAN MANCEAU and more
> ************************************************************


If this is the same DJ Lars that was on the Real World,  I would recommend
going
to anyone that is remotely nearby.  I saw him in San Diego a few years ago
and
he rocked the fukin house.  In fact, (aside from Lars's records being
stolen) the whole
party rocked

Peace and love,

Mike aka Dr. Blasé
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I would like to get in touch with Robert Hood. Does anyone know how to
contact him (email, phone, agent, manager, anything). Please respond to
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 04 01:29:36 1999
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> > whats your top five live p.a. acts you'll seen
>
> no order.
>
> Maud

Winnipeg - September '97
I saw this show one week after seeing Aphex Twin in Minneapolis... and
there was no comparison.  Maud turned out a mad set of tracks that got into
some seriously warped territory... please not that this was almost 2 years
ago... to get an idea of where they're at now check out the International
Rave Heroes release on HiPass.

> Richard Devine

Montreal - November '97, Furthur - August '99.
The man simply does not disappoint.  The '97 was straight up techno for 40
minutes.. followed by a very crazy 20 minutes of improvised breakbeats
(with the aid of Takeshi).... The '99 set was probably heard by at least a
few of you... started out with some noise generated by some sort of box
that he was beating the shit out of and then went into some very fine
broken beats...

> Natural Born Sucker

Montreal - November '97, Furthur - May '98.
acid nightmares filled with fucked rhythms and bursts of noise... trance
inducing, but not trance... hear it and believe.

> Doormouse

Furthur - May '98.
B. E. E. R. unveiled... little else needs to be said.

> Mick Parks

local madness... randomly surfaces for bizarre soundscapes... can't be
thrown in any particular category...


honourable mentions:
Autechre (Winnipeg - March '96)
Davros (Schizophrenia - September '97)
Mark Verbos (Furthur - May '96)
Substance P (Heavy Mental - March '97, Schizophrenia - Sept '97, Furthur
'98 etc..)
Space Time Continuum (Winnipeg - March '96, Winnipeg - May '98)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 04 01:36:17 1999
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--- Radianation <radianation@louipimps.com> wrote:
> What constitutes a live PA to you guys

Playing your own music that you WROTE and spent much time
and effort doing so.

Not playing vinyl,cd, or other peeps shit....nuff said.

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I think the best live PA I have ever heard was
TOOL......well, next to SLAYER.
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In a message dated 9/3/99 12:27:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
lgoller@indiana.edu writes:

<< by lunar sol (i think that is their name..i
 get confused)...
 
 peace
 lauryn
  >>

hmmmmm....too bad of a crack habit???

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TRUNKalicious wrote:
> 
> Parental Guidance STRONGLY suggested....
> Have yo finga next to da volume at ALL times!
> 
> http://welcome.to/mobass.com
> 
> Click tha skeleton, Mo' Crue,TRUNK, go to da bottom of the
> picture.......die.

thassum dope shit yo! waddap widda tape? my geddoass phone lines make RA
kina poofin.....>:[

see ya in da mud,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 04 04:59:35 1999
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Hotwax is indeed a great record store. I went today and got some great
records that I've been wanting for a while, and everyone was friendly --
and the best part, it was really really inexpensive. The most expensive
record I bought was $9.50 and they were all imports. 

If you're in the Cinci area, please support your local businesses. And,
if you're tired of going to Clubhead and Bob not having what you're
looking for (as is what happens to me almost every time) I'm fairly sure
that Hotwax will have it, and if not, they'll be more than happy to
order it for you.

To Hotwax: Thanks for opening.

-ben . elroy (((http://olaris.radiodistortion.com)))

PS - You'll be able to hear some of my recent purchases on my mixshow
Saturday night at 9/8c on the Olaris Network.

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:15:47 EDT
From: "Aaron M" <aaronmyers420@hotmail.com>

>Yeah, the track you're talking about is called "Silence" and it is by
>Delirium. I LOVE that track BIG TIME... My friend just bought it in
>vinyl. I've never heard it @ a party or anything though...

real quick:  i've noticed a few people have mentioned that they haven't
heard this track played yet at a party before.  if you find it, get a hold
of Paul Oakenfold live in sydney, australia.  it was aired on radio one's
essential mix way back when, but he dropped this track about 5 or 6 tracks
into his set (i think it was 2 hours?)... and totally BLEW the house
apart!!!  not that he doesn't do that anyways, but there's one time when
that track was dropped at a party... plus the whole tape just fucking
rules.

altho my favorite part of that particular set is when he dropps this track
and then mixes in the bass from the new track towards the end... holy shit
it's killer... makes me jizz my pants practically... ok i'm drunk and
going to listen to it now... bye....

fuck id4.

zdo/hamered




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Mine would have to be in no particular order:

Psychic TV - At a cool world party in san francisco sometime around 93,
also at private parties they threw 92-94 in SF. Absolutely amazing to see
them at raves and their raves where incredible. Total immersion into
industrial twisted techno where you lose your identity and get lost for an
hour in a land of darkness.

Prototype 909 -DBN New years 97 (?), wicked stuff. Blew me away :)

Skylab 2000, Dreamfest '98 - Loved the song about starting a revolution.

Astral Matrix, Forever After - What i saw of it rocked :)

Doormouse, Furthur '98 - Love the BEER song, you've got mail hehe, that rocked.

those are the ones that stick out most in my head. As for more liva PAs at
parties they are a big hassle, unless they drive and have their own gear
then doubt we will do many more. Had to get all kinds of equipment and
stuff for Astral Matrix, big headache :) Also with live pas need to do
soundchecks, have stuff set up prior to event starting and be able to go,
etc. Quite a hassle, want to do for some smaller parties but not sure if we
will do them for bigger ones..

love & light,

			            Jeffz 
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Here is some important news  on how to order your 
" RAVE ON " BUMPSTICKERS....  

***** Please put in A. MARTON in 'pay to the order' part of the money order 
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To see the RAVE ON BUMPERSTICKER,  double click on the blue text.   <A 
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is there anything going on tonight? someone once said something about a
party called "MATRIX"??? well.. if anyone knows anything other than a
house party... hit me back


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> thassum dope shit yo! waddap widda tape

I funna talk to a guy tanight ta makum dat master....dem
copies be pumped......dem mr. postman deals da
goods.....couple a weeks, I figur....

> see ya in da mud,
> --aRNO

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here's the info kids... sorry for the delay...

take I-80 E or W to the "West Center Rd" exit... exit EAST
take West Center Road to 108th st and take a RIGHT
follow 108th st to Grover and take a RIGHT
venue is the WESTSIDE COMMUNITY CENTER   it is right at the intersection
of 108th + Grover

if you get lost... please refer to phone numbers at end of e-flier...

see everyone there tonite... we will have fliers for the FREE party going
on tommorrow... so be sure you pick one up so you can join in the fun...

peace and love.... have a safe trip...

-pm-

DJ .com
international house of boogie/we're everywhere 1999

September 4th 1999
StardusProdukshunz bring you
A NEW BEGINNING
Omaha, Nebraska
September 4th 1999, prepare yourself for a new beginning featuring a
clean, two room 15000 square foot venue with TWO EVMT4 40000 watt
systems.  Intelligent lighting, lasers, video mixing, and giveaways
will be provided.  Our dj lineup for the evening is as follows :
NIGEL RICHARDS : 611 Records, Philly, : Nigel is no stranger to dance
music. As the founder of the record label and store 611, he constantly
has
the most bangin selection.   His techno and house are shure to make you
music. As the founder of the record label and store 611, he constantly
has
the most bangin selection.   His techno and house are shure to make you
move in ways you never thought possible.  Keep your eyes and ears open
for
one of his famous intros. a mind blowing 2 HOUR SET!!! Make sure to catch
his 611 Mix Series mixtapes and Cd's available anywhere fine music is
sold!
TIMESTRETCH : Advance Recordings, Boston : Timestretch is one of the top
stateside junglists as well as the founder of Advance Recordings, one of
the top us d&b labels.  Come witness his utter devastation to the
dancefloor when he drops his dubplates! Trainspotters beware, these
unreleased choons are deadly, believe!
DAN DELIVERANCE : Integrated Recordings, Delaware : Having played such
memorable East Coast parties such as Buzz and Fever alongside greats such
as Dieselboy and Scott Henry, Dans reputation was already larger than
life
when he moved to the midwest. Since residing here, he has made
dancefloors
go crazy from Kansas City to New Orleans with his flawless techno
mixing.If you have not been fortunate enough to catch Dan's sound then
dont miss this opportunity!
SWIFTROCK & STREAK : San Francisco : These unbelievable turntablists will
make an undisputable argument for the turntable as a musical instrument.
Swiftrock was the 1998 VESTAX WORLD CHAMPION!!  On four dexx, they
promise
to provide you with an out of this world experience! You cannot imagine
the skratches and juggles that these two are capable of.  For all the
hiphop headz.
THREEJAY & SEVEN : disco pimps, Chicago : If you have frequented Chicago
and Detroit parties, then chances are you have heard these two house
masters.  Just on the start of their tour, they will provide a 4 table
house performance that will make you groove.  If you dont know who JACK
is, you  betta axe somebody! chitown flava
SPREE : Happy League, Minneapolis : Known for increasing the vibes inna
arena, this midwest favourite is guaranteed to draw reaction.  His
positivly influenced music will be sure to put a smile on your face and
make you want to hug somebody. Strictly 'Ardcore Mate!!
SOURCE : Treefort/Techstyles, Los Angeles : Already well known for his
mixing in the south and west coast, Source is guaranteed to drop some
science!  His production on Treefort and Techstyles labels is among some
mixing in the south and west coast, Source is guaranteed to drop some
science!  His production on Treefort and Techstyles labels is among some
of the best stateside. Be prepared for some smashin junglist action with
many of his own tracks thrown in.
Watch the dubplates spin round and round, smell the acetate. Big up!
UGLY BILL aka PEACEMAKER : San Diego, KC : This Kansas City Favourite
Junglist moved to San Diego and established himself there as a crowd
pleaser and selektah.  We happily bring him back to the midwest to show
off his skillz. Make some noise for his return!
DEATHSQUAD : LUNATIK AND JUMP Omaha, Kingston, Tokyo, whereva :  Wherever
these two touch down they mash up the party.  With a unique blend of
upfront jungle, hiphop, and dancehall, these two have a reputation for
destroying dancefloors and everything else in the venue! With their
reputation for crazy antics, you never know what they are going to do
next. Whatever it is, you can be shure that you dont want to miss it!!
innarubadubstylee SEEN?!!!!!
TONY MARKHAM: Kansas City : Tony has been a name long respekted in the
midwest and has played many parties. If you havent seen Tony yet, then
you
are missing out on an upliftin house groove! Come give respekt to a
midwest veteran, who will surely make you move.
GUTHOOK : Deathsquad, Omaha : This is a name that people have been
talking
about in the junglist community, with a name like that, how can you avoid
attention? Come see what the hype is about, as Guthook plays a truly
WIKKED set of upfront Drum n bass!  Expect the traxx to be nasty and the
mixing to be FLAWLESS! BOH BOH!
SPACE COWBOY : Lincoln, Ne : This bwoy plays some nice trance and tech
house bizness.  Undastand that he will do whatever it takes to get you
bumpin and jumpin.  get nekkid to score extra points!!!
LEE : We're Everywhere, Omaha : Lee has been in the Omaha scene for
awhile, mixing all sorts of music.  He has prepared a special set of
Swedish 
tribal techno for your dancing entertainment pleasure! GetReady!
LOGIK : Omaha : This whizkid is new on the scene, but knows the ropes
already!  He is versatile in his selection of tracks, as he has much
downtempo, oldskool hiphop, house, and breakbeat tunes to throw out.. Get
here early and support the future of the scene!
As you can see, this event is going to be slammin!  If you have never
attended a party in this area before, this is the one to make the trip
to.
Big respekt given for all out of town people who are planning to attend
or
have attended a Stardust Produkshun in the past.  This one promises to be
the best one yet!  please remember no drugz, alcohol, weapons, or markers
:)
info lines are as follows :
OMAHA :
-402.546.2539
-402.554.RAVE
-402.552.7731
St. Louis
-314.567.2041
Kansas City
-816.881.8144
-816.881.8144
email contact info : agodbout@s-cwis.unomaha.edu
for out of town ticket reservations and guest list inquiries or to be on
our mailing list, leave a message on 402.546.2539 with all information
clearly stated. peace 
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Mother funker

featuring The renegade hardware tour

usual suspects
bailey and mc rage

jj jellybean
snuggles
RYn
casper
mc blackeye
current
kevin cunningham

Mark verbos
colette and dahota
marcus watkins and NIko
josh warner and marko
George david
Pigeon Toe
Linus

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Thank god!!  I am so there!

--- Panked@aol.com wrote:
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>live pas:
>
>1 dan curtin
>2 barada
>3 titonton duvante
>4 dbx
>5 todd sines
>

Fave 5 live P.A.'s..

1. Bassland
2. Uberzone
3. 21 12
4. Skylab 2000
5. Mike Fix [who? don't ask.. trust me..]

Audrey
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I'm at Purdue University in West Lafayette and need rides to

Pillow Talk, Sept. 18 in Indianapolis
-I have an e-flyer if anyone wants more info, I think I sent it to the list
-I need a ride for myself, a friend, and a girl...
-live in dorms
-if anyone is/wants to go(ing) to this...PLS HELP if you can...

Y2K, Oct. 16 in Chicago
-Have e-flyer, will send.
-So far, I think I only need a ride for myself
-if anyone is/wants to go(ing) to this...PLS HELP if you can...

////////////
being in college without a car sucks when you want to party...
for anyone who remembers my post when I needed a ride to 
Rave'm, the temple deal will apply, though it will be smaller than gip's 
since these are parties I'd *really like* to make it to but don't 
*absolutely, must* make it to...

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   a photo form the Mir spacestation of the recent solar eclipse.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap990830.html

   it's kind of creepy but at the same time, cool as hell...makes a killer
desktop background
   .
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   a photo from the Mir spacestation of the recent solar eclipse.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap990830.html

   it's kind of creepy but at the same time, cool as hell...makes a killer
desktop background
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Hey guys I got that allied substructure sight up and going at its address, 
for those of you who don't know who they are its a promoter in minneapolis 
that threw Better Living Through Tricknology and has 2 parties coming up in 
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I just returned from I.D. and for any of you who haven't made it out there
yet - GO.

It's worth the experience. It was about a 3 hour drive for us and even
though I had some shit happen. (speeding ticket, cooler leaked on my
equipment and blankets etc) I still had a great time. Some pictures will be
posted on our website in a day or two.

Oh and get one of those damn masks because you'll get DUST LUNG!!!!!
beware of the big scary spiders. ; )

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-1- Daft Punk
-2- Theory Collapse (the young ones might not know them)
-3- Billy (the guy from Nashville, he kicks hard)
-4- Chip B


French e
cioa baby

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if you want pictures of the eclipse seen from Compiegne France
e-mail me at : Davis_Bassan@paribas.com


French e

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On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, TRUNKalicious wrote:
> I think the best live PA I have ever heard was
> TOOL......well, next to SLAYER.

I dunno, that's a tough call... Those are two of the most amazing bands
I've ever seen live...  I mean, TOOL was amazing and played every one of
their songs that I really wanted to hear (like 46 & 2, Opiate, Sober,
Prison Sex, Hooker With a Penis, etc.) but Slayer OPENED with Reign in
Blood, and how much more hardcore can you get than that?

Speaking of which, I'm about halfway done with a hardcore (as in hardcore
techno, since the song was hardcore to begin with) remix of Reign in
Blood...  Damn that's the coolest riff ever...  And I've been working on
remixing Meshuggah; man that band is amazing...

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967 miles, 27 spider bites  (anyone know what to do about those?), and 5
days of accumulated raver funk later, all I can do is grin when I think
about Intersteller Dreamfest.  So many of you were there that I'll try to
keep this as brief as possible.

The space was awesome, a little spread out, but hey, I got my walkin legs
back.  We were swimmin at least twice a day (wish I would have remembered a
floaty thing!) and taking in the beautiful scenery.  Unfortunately it was
very hot, but I suppose that was to be expected.  Swimming alleviated the
stinky b.o. funk, although it was replaced w/ the lake smell....but we all
smelled like that for the most part so it was bearable.  :D

The sound systems were very well done.....great locations, no bleeding into
each other, and the sound quality was fantastic.

Porta potties are scary...I don't care who you are.

On to the music itself.  I kept constantly losing my schedule, but here's
what I remember....

*Derek Plaslaiko (sp?), who's name I will never be able to pronounce,
therefore I will always call him Derek PLAS-ti-co...he played a bangin set
Friday night and then managed to top it Saturday night...my lord...someone
book him closer to where I live IMMEDIATELY!

*Spree and Matt Positive...really got the crowd goin and dancin their asses
off on the first night.

*Pyro (I think...it was the first guy who played on the second stage
Saturday night)...I was lying in my tent presumably going to take a quick
nap so I might survive the rest of the night.  Our tents were close to the
second stage, and when this guy put on his second track a force beyond
recognition pulled me instantly out of my sleeping bag and I had to run to
the second stage so I might more fully absorb his music.  Mmmm....trance.

*The Return to the Source guys...they played pretty much all night Saturday
night and I was running back and forth from the main stage and the second
stage, but  DAMN these guys tore shit up!!!  My god I've been dying to hear
trance like that on such a great sound system.  I was in heaven.  Very glad
I was camped close to that stage b/c when I was finally too tired to be
dancing anymore, I could chill at my tent and still clearly hear them goin
crazy.

*Dj Dante...only caught the last like 15 minutes of his set, but,
hrm....does he always play things like Pat Metheny remixes?  I'd never heard
him before last night....he got people dancin, but I was not moved.  I
dunno.

*Dica.   Mmmm....I love this kind of noisy-rock-star jungle.  I wish I got
to hear this style of jungle more often.  Well done Jon.

There were many others who I wished I could have heard, but my
up-at-4am-for-work ass was just not going to have it.

The kids doing the End of the Universe Restaurant get a VERY honorable
mention.  They may not have been the fastest at slingin out the food, but I
was very impressed with how good it was.  So nice to see something besides
hot dogs at a party.  Real food for the belly.  I'm sure those guys working
behind the burners were dying in the heat of the day too, so mad props for
feedin us!

I did get to be a part of the mw raves summit for about an hour and a half,
which I thought was very interesting.  Lots of good ideas floating around.
I won't go into details on it though since I think that Robin mentioned
something about posting the 'minutes' here and other places on the net.

Big BIG ups to JJ and Jason and their crew for planning and putting all this
together.  This was definitely a spiritual weekend for me.  I was very
honored to have been a part of this gathering.

A special thanks also goes out to the Urbana kids for being my second family
this weekend.

I hope you all had a great time there this weekend and made it home safe and
sound.  Hello to those of you I got to spend some time with and all of those
new and old faces....way too many to mention specifically. And don't forget
to check for ticks when you're finally gettin home! *smooch*

Koog ~~ Tracy
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We would like to thank you all for showing up and supporting the underground 
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FREE ADVICE FOR PROMOTERS!

I'm looking at a pre-flyer for "Neurodance
at Crashland" in Madison; here's how it starts:

"IN THE TRUE SPIRIT OF EVOLVEING THE RAVE
CEANE WE ARE STRAT AND ABLE TO PROVIDE
OUR GUESTS WITH A NITE OF PURE
ENTERTAINMENT AND ENERGY WHICH PROMISES
TO SET INTO MOTION THE NEXT STEP IN PARTY
VENUES.  THE 'NEO-RAVE'." [sic]

Tip #1: Spell-check the text on your flyers.
You think you can spell, but you can't.  "WE
ARE STRAT AND ABLE"--Who are you?  Is this
an attempt at biblical allusion?  "RAVE CEANE"
--Ceane, isn't that a color??  Ghettotalk is fine
(considering how "ghetto" Madison is:P), but
make it deliberate.

Tip #2: "NEO-RAVE"??  That must mean I can
expect to find a bunch of 40+ year old post-
jazz types lounging on oddly shaped couches
listening to new age music.  Or else there's
hovercraft, a holodeck, and transporter pads,
right?  "NEURODANCE"??  I'll be sure to wear
a turtleneck...  Don't forget your calculator...

Tip #3: If you're going to make pre-flyers, put
*some* kind of information on there.  Like
maybe a couple artists, the kind of venue, the
price, etc.  This one basically just had the name
of the party, the city, the promoter, and the
promoter's phone number.

"FULCRUM LEAGUE TM. PROUDLY PRESENTS
NEURODANCE AT CRASHLAND: MADISON, WI

CONTACT LINES= THE AMAZI'N FULCRUM LEAGUE
D.A.S. PHONE SYSTEM. 1-(608)-242-8671" [sic]

The Amazi'n Fulcrum League D.A.S. Phone System: "Hello?"

Me: "Hi, I'm calling to find out about the Crashland thing."

He: "Who is this?"

Me: "Uh.... My name's Kevin.  So who is this 'Fulcrum
League tm.'?"

He: "Fulcrum League is an outgrowth of Evolution
from Kentucky.  We haven't thrown any
parties in Madison yet.

Me: "So did you just move here from Kentucky?"

He: "No, Evolution is based out of the South."

Me: "...?  Who's gonna spin?"

He: "Mystic Bill--he's not confirmed yet,
Miss Hollie, Mr. S, Lyell Crocodile [spl?],
dj Lovecraft, and Propa' Bear Brix."

Me: "Who the hell is that Bricks dude?"

He: "B-R-I-X.  He owns Vinyl Locust in
Milwaukee."

Me: "Oh, right."

He: "And we're gonna have performance art
in the second room."

Me: "Oh, that's cool, like what kind of
performance art?"

He: "TJ Richter from Milwaukee is doing
some really neat spoken word/projection
show."

Me: "Where's this gonna be?"

He: "I can't tell you that yet."

Me: "How much will it cost?"

He: "$20 pre-sale, $25 at the door."

Me: [Shits brix.]  "Thanks!"  [Thinks: So
this is a "neo-rave"... I think I prefer the
old kind.]

Tip #4: Don't charge $25 for a rave in
this city unless Squarepusher is playing.
(Squarepusher, you know, the discohouse
DJ from Madison?  I think he also goes
by the name "Mr. S":P)

Tip #5: Be sure to have a booth devoted
to selling "RAVE ON" bumperstickers at
about $10 each.  (I know this guy Chris
who can hook it up.)

Tip #6: This one is serious--and one good
thing about the party in question--
performance art is a big plus.  From MEAT
to poetry reading, I think non-standard
(i.e. non-dj) acts at raves really add
another dimension and make them more
attractive to artistic types.  Thumbs up
to live PAs, too--diversify.  (Here I have
to keep all my REALLY good ideas to myself.
Like one minute I suggest Wesley Willis mc
at a rave, then Whendee is trying to find his
contact info... Can we expect Wesley at the
next Drop Bass party?  I'll be expecting
royalties, Kurt:P [and I'm not talking about
kings and queens].  Or at least the oppurtunity
to fingerpaint the line-up on... oh, forget it.)

Tip #7: Where's the hardcore?

Tip #8: Just in general--call your own
infolines frequently and make sure they work.
If you advertize an "AMAZI'N D.A.S. PHONE
SYSTEM" [sic] you should be amazing every
single caller (or, as it seems in this case, THE
single caller).

Tip #9: Have an up-to-date website for every
party and an email address where people can
submit their questions and viruses.

Tip #10 and Disclaimer: Like Chrise pointed out
a few days ago, this list represents a small,
very opinionated fraction of the raving public.
Don't take it too seriously.  Maybe a party
advertizes on MTV and a few people on this
list decide to deem it morally wrong to go--
when in the real world, no one really cares.
And, for myself, I tend to focus on the negative
sides of parties... I'm a tough crowd... But I
really don't mean to offend anyone or ignore
their talents/efforts (are you reading this,
Roni Size?)

RAVE ON! *beep*

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you know, i DEPEND on mw-raves to provide me with a daily dose of fun and 
excitement, filling me with fun anecdotes and interesting reading 
material....and what do i get?
nothing. nobody is posting.
you have all let me down.
val
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 06 02:55:46 1999
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ok. i didnt mean it. that whole luke monteiro comment was uncalled for. im 
so sorry.....
vaL
please forgive me...

*************
yeah. thats what yer mom said.
valerie
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we pretend to be.
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hi everybody

okay i got persuaded into goin up to omaha for this party, we had bad
signs before leaving kc but oh well
and we were on our way . . . 

got up there about 11:45 pm, thought we missed tony markham cause he
was supposedly in the main room, but ALAS i later found out he was
(apparently) in the second room n OH YEAH i got to get down like i know
i should.  managed to make it from room 2 right after hearing some
version of off the wall to the first room where yes they played the
same track . . . it was spooky i tell yahs . . i always wanna sing all
that song but the mix only has a little bit of the chorus . . shrug . .
. so anyway swiftrock n streak got on there next (isn't swiftrock with
one of those dj supergroups??? anybody know which one???) n that was
interesting, i'd never seen anything like that and well i guess it gave
me hope for my mixing that if you can screw up a bunch it'll sound
really good.  *no offense or anything but hey that's really just how i
saw it*

ok . . . next up . . . nigel f****n richards . . . .
i only have 1 question and that's because i already know why his sound
got turned down (the cops told the sound guy to or they'd shut it down)
AND MY ONE QUESTION IS:    

WHERE THE HELL WAS EVERYBODY?????

i know i turned around several times and if there were more than 20
people on that floor well then i would be totally amazed.  shrug.  that
gym was EMPTY.  nice to meet you caroline from minneapolis if yer on
here.  anyway this guy TORE IT UP and YES EVEN THOUGH 
*THE MAN* dan deliverance played next nigel gets set of the night
(sorry mr markham on that one too heheh)

OKAY WELL DAN DELIVERANCE ended up the night in the big room and well
what can i say but THANKS FOR THE CD and WOW it is GREAT . . . i tell
ya big guy if i haven't listened to it 5 times already today . . . wow.

oh yeah n i heard a little bit of some nice hard jungle/dnb stuff in
the second room i dunno when but it was GOOOOOOOOOOD . . .

good call zach c on sellin records at the party . . .

okay well i hope they got everything good to go for church later that
morning there, and OH YEAH what happened to the afterparty out towards
38th and hamilton i think it was??? we saw the sign on the door n
people goin this way n that, just wonderin . . .

oh yeah n please if anyone has the information on the party in omaha w/
SCOTT HENRY comin up please post it up, thanks.

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hey..for all the new peeps and friends I have met from the list..and some of 
the people I have just chatted briefly with..I just wanted to say thanks. I 
will not be on this list anymore..for some time..due to me moving..=)  But I 
will be back on sometime in the near future. If anyone would like my new 
e-mail address..it goes as follows..

turntablepsycho@hotmail.com

Thanks again everyone..I have enjoyed all the posts..and have enjoyed talking 
to everyone I have.  PS**TAPES ARE ON THE WAY TO PEOPLE I PROMISED!!**

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>
>Fave 5 live P.A.'s..
>

1) Kektex
2) Plastikman (at Spastik)
3) Prototype 909
4) Doormouse
5) Uberzone

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On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:15:19 CDT, Princess Applesauce In Da House wrote:

>5)Tony Rohr (of prototype909)
>


I don't know who this Tony Rohr guy is, but he's not
part of Prototype 909.  

P-909 is (was) Jason, Dietrich
and Taylor.

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My interests have always revolved around the local acts.  I've seen great 
performances by big, national acts that cost a promoter thousands of 
dollars..  but a lot of the DJ's I've heard and have really moved me and 
inspired are local and have been local performances..  
(In no particular order)

A.  Adeptus.  He's from Milwaukee, he played at First Avenue about a year and 
some ago and at Natural Progression this past winter.  It was the performance 
at First Ave that messed with my head.  It was so spiritual and beautiful.  
It took a regular  "yes, I like trance" opinion and turned it into a love so 
strong, it even latley has been out-ranking Happy Hardcore for me

B.  DRC.  The first time I saw her she was really inspiring.  (Every time 
since too...)  I might get flamed for this, but a big part of why I loved it 
so much was because she was a girl...  she played a great set, and really was 
a big part of me coming to the decision that mixing was something I wanted to 
get into.  I dig chicks who spin.  (Bring it on!!!)

C.  Spree/Cloudskipper at "Total Fitness", a house party in Jan/Feb.  First 
time I ever saw Cloudskipper, (who is one of my all time favorites.  DJ and a 
friend!)  and the two of them playing together is always something really fun 
to not just listen to, but to watch as well.  I had Heart of Gold stuck in my 
head for about a week.  I've seen them play together many times, but this was 
probably the best.

D.  Brisk.  Funky Charmz.  March 6.  If you were there, you know.   I get 
tired from dancing to HH, but his whole set, my body did not stop.  I'm all 
about Eye Opener  :)

E.  Hm.. Delta 9?  Dan Efex?  DJ Boogie?  Freaky Flow?  CJ Skyy?  
bah!  

Happy Labor Day.

Jen-Sixtybus
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Hey kiddies...

Looks like I am the first to post (HELL YES!)...cuz even as we speak Richie
is still kicking everyone's ass.....speaking of ass kicking...that is what
happened this weekend.

Friday....ass kicked by Spree, Matt Positive, Matt Bandy (who is God),
Trevor Lamont, Nitro and Stan Doublin
Sat....ass kicked by Odi, Dan Effex, Dave Hollands who spun some unexpected
housy shit...yeah baby!
Sun....ass kicked by Matt Positive's dog, Acid Pimp, Benman or B-man?, DJ
Funk's special from the grave appearance, and of course Richie.

Ok that is all I can think of right now except that I have more dirt in my
mouth than in the entire fucking space...was it dusty there?

You know, for all the mw-listies that went, I think the only people I talked
to from here was Suzi (great to see ya girlie!), Craig, Matt and Stan
Doublin.  Where the hell was everyone else?

Peace! and hopefully a more detail review coming in the future after I sleep
72 and get fired from my job....

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Where the hell was I?!?!
Where the hell was I?!
The man wants to know where I was this weekend?!
My ass was at home WISHING I WAS AT ID!!! All who got to go suck!
-moondancer
P.S. Just kiddin' hope you all had a great time and be sure to tell us how 
it went.


>You know, for all the mw-listies that went, I think the only people I 
>talked
>to from here was Suzi (great to see ya girlie!), Craig, Matt and Stan
>Doublin.  Where the hell was everyone else?
>Toby

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On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, vaL vaLenzo* wrote:

> ok. i didnt mean it. that whole luke monteiro comment was uncalled for. im 
> so sorry.....
> vaL
> please forgive me...

Jees, I don't think you can be forgiven... nope.  I just don't know what
to say to you... I'm very dissapointed

...
...

Boy, where's LukeM. when you need a bit of useless input here?

hee!

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> >5)Tony Rohr (of prototype909)
> 
> I don't know who this Tony Rohr guy is, but he's not
> part of Prototype 909.  
> 
> P-909 is (was) Jason, Dietrich
> and Taylor.
> 
> 	Joe

Oh, he went to highschool with them... so he can lay claim.
Or was he their luggage stowage consultant?

=)

Mmmmm crack.

Kale


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<begin transmision>

arriving around 10pm saturday night (due to the nature of our jobs...) we
made our way right into the campsite. i asked about where all the mw-raves
kids were, but no one seemed to know at the door. Check in was perfect.
simple and fast moving!

we drove down and parked by the second stage, and immediately bumped into
some friends of ours from bloomington and indy. found out where they were
camped, and made plans to camp there later. 

we explored a bit, laughed at the cool decor of the drop bass tent
(pennywise the clown anyone??), and then went to the mainstage briefly.
saw more people we knew and then headed back to set up the tent. 

after getting settled, we went to the goa/2nd stage, and i danced for
about 2 hrs. i got to spend some time with the RTTS/Phantasm guys, and
even danced around with them a bit. (hi mitch!) the people were sparse at
the second stage all night apparently. not shocking, considering how the
midwest really doesn't understand how goa works, or what it is. maybe we
got a few converts this weekend...

at 2 we headed over to catch shiva and odi. shiva started her set with the
Sid Vicious rendition of "My way." she got on the mike and yelled at
everyone to pogo too!! not too many punks there i guess....but i was
singing along!!!!

and then the terror began! she fucking kicked the crowd's ass...aside from
the fog machine and my proximity to it, everything was lovely.

and then odi. now, i like jungle, but it's not my favorite genre. and i
like it pretty techy. So, having a dj like odi making me and shiva go "oh
fuck" to each other about a zillion times as we danced together, is a
pretty bad feat!!! odi got all the kids going...and the dancefloor was
packed. he has amazing skills, and did some brilliant cuts and scratches.

after this, we went back to the tent for a bit and chilled. we then caught
the end of holland's set ("and we can make sammmiches.." ) and sat around
behind the stage with the subterror crew watching the laser do some
curiously amazing things.

then it was back to the 2nd stage to catch the end of mindfield live, and
see the beginning of dan efex's set. i'm rather surpruised i barely spent
any time at the goa area...the music was wonderful, but there was little
to no vibe there...when will you people learn ;)

then off to bed. where i didn't sleep at all. for a full 4 hours. argh. i
woke up, and we spent the morning chilling out at our tent, staying out of
the hot sun. we went swimming in the lake which had a rather peculiar
scent ("dude, i figured it out. it's not the water that stinks, it's the
people on shore!!"). very refreshing.

then it was time to dry off, and get ready to spin at 3 on the drop bass
system. i lugged all my records over to the mw raves camp (i have decided
that i need a record ho. applications are being accepted.), and finally
saw a few of ya'll. (chrisE, storm, some of my iowa kids, etc.) storm and
i then drove ove rto the drop bas tent, and waited for kurt to come up and
set up.

and the funniest thing i heard from anyone (except little sarah talking
about .com eating out a candyraver who "tasted like gummi bears") came out
of dica's mouth. he came walking up and sees me and storm and said that he
heard the was trance being spun and he came to "trance out." :)

punk ass mofo. :)

so storm and i spun a 45 minute tag team, and i did my own 45 minutes...
and then i humped the clown. (which had pierced nipples if you didn't
notice...)

we both thank anyone who did come and listen. we did get alot of
passersby saying nice things about the hard screaming goa coming from the
tent...

so, we packed up, and took off. thus this early review. i am sad that i
had to miss so many sets (and pissed as hell we didn't see karl the dog
again!!), but such is the nature of working for a state institution that
doesn't close on labor day. IU blows. :P

hope you all had a lovely time! i know i did!!!  :)

a big thank you to all the people who made ID work! :)

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
varsha
varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu
psychedelic trance liberation front
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"You wouldn't believe it dude! I'm like
the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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>He: "Who is this?"
>
>Me: "Uh.... My name's Kevin.  So who is this 'Fulcrum
>League tm.'?"
>
>He: "Fulcrum League is an outgrowth of Evolution
>from Kentucky.  We haven't thrown any
>parties in Madison yet.
>
>Me: "So did you just move here from Kentucky?"
>
>He: "No, Evolution is based out of the South."
>


Can someone tell exactly who this is.  As far as  I know, I haven't
authorized any "outgrowths."

tim
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On Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:14:37 -0000 "Tracy J. Koogler" <koog@netzero.net>
writes:
>*Derek Plaslaiko (sp?), who's name I will never be able to pronounce,
>therefore I will always call him Derek PLAS-ti-co...he played a bangin 
>set Friday night and then managed to top it Saturday night...my 
>lord...someone book him closer to where I live IMMEDIATELY!

HEY!!!  haven't you heard????

that's PLAYSTATION baybee!!!!

Playstation says... "YOU SUCK!!!"

hehehe... btw.... where are all the Even Furthur pics ppl???

-pm-

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This was my very first Omaha party, and perhaps my last.  I would have
liked to go to ID, but I didn't feel too up to camping one week after
Forever After, and plus there were some people I wanted to see again from
KC.  The drive to Omaha was only about 6 and a half hours, so it wasn't too
bad, but at the same time it wore me out a bit.  
The party was held in some sort of school like building.  The main room was
in the gymnasium, which had the worse possible ventilation.  I could hardly
dance for more than 20min in that room without getting winded and I don't
even smoke!  
The second room wasn't as bad.  It seemed to stay pretty well ventilated,
so I spend most of my time chillin in there.
I spent the beginning of the night waiting for Spree to come on, hoping
that he would lift my spirits some.  When he did come on I was a little
dissapointed.  I was really hoping to see him spin alone and not with that
MC dude he was with.  I guess in my opinion Happy Hardcore has enough
lyrics without an MC, but he still spun an awesome set.  
After this I started to get a really bad stomach ache, I think it was from
some Burger King I had eaten on the way down.  This kept me from doing any
serious dancing, but I was still diggin the music.
I don't know who it was spinning Jungle in the second room around 2
o'clock.  I think it was Timestretch, but I'm not sure.  Whoever it was,
they really ripped shit up!  Even with my stomach hurting I still had to
dance.  Unfortunatly, I had to stop because I started dry heaving :P 
The next couple hours I spent outside getting some fresh air so I missed
most of Nigel Richard's set.  
Ahhhhh!!!
I did get back inside to see Dan Deliverence.  At this point I was still
pretty weak, so dancing was out of the question.  He was really on tho!  He
had some builds that were intense as hell and even being the last DJ of the
night he still kept everyone on their feet and moving.  
I would really like to see Dan spin in Minneapolis sometime, so if any of
you promoters out there are listening, get this guy to MPLS!!!
The security at this party completely sucked.  They really brought down the
vibe.  I'm not sure how many arrests were made, but I know I saw at least 5
people escorted out.  Plus, they were taking away everybody's vicks masks
and calling them paraphenalia.  The security really had something up their
ass.
All in all, the music was great, but the vibe sucked.  I did meet a lot of
people from the KC area and even ran into some of the people I met at
Forever After  :)

All I remember hearing from the people in my car on the way back was, "Dan
Deliverence is HOT!"
For awhile they almost got me thinking the same thing :P

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>You know, for all the mw-listies that went, I think the only people I
>talked
>to from here was Suzi (great to see ya girlie!), Craig, Matt and Stan
>Doublin.  Where the hell was everyone else?
>Toby

i was there but didn't see anybody from the list because i didn't know i was
supposed to be looking for them? =)
Maybe you saw me wearing my navy blue louipimps records t-shirt? I played
stage 2 friday from like 1-3 with all the keyboards and stuff. wish there
were more people out there at that time because it sure makes playing a lot
more enjoyable.
hell i might have talked to some of you and not even known you were on the
list? i have some lovely pictures of people - maybe you are in them.

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On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 03:01:21 EDT, Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:

>My interests have always revolved around the local acts. 

>A.  Adeptus.  He's from Milwaukee, 

Nope, he's from Madison.

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alright here is both parts of our 5 year anniversary, more djs and acts to
be added to both dates.


Liquid Groove presents...

THE LIQUID GROOVE 5 YEAR ANNIVERSARY:  PART 1

Saturday October 30th 1999
Halloween Weekend
Atlanta GA
Studio Central

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~DJ's:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


*playing a special 4 hour extended set*

-S A S H A
 (northern exsposure, twilo, uk)


-J - M A J I K  &  M C   MC
 (metalheadz, uk)


-T H O M A S
 (wicked crew, san fran)


-J I M M Y  V A N   M.
 (balance, twilo, ny)


-T I M E S T R E T C H
 (sessionz, boston)
*first atlanta appearance*


-K A Z E L L
 (liquid groove, LA)

+ plenty of locals T.B.A in the next few days.

2 rooms of turbo sound
FULL COLOR 3D LASERS
Full Decor throughout
Plenty of giveaways

18 and over

More info announcend soon...

24 hour info 404-257-2515
or e-mail liquidgroove@mindspring.com

and then part 2 is below

__________________________________________________________-

Liquid Groove presents...

THE LIQUID GROOVE 5 YEAR ANNIVERSARY: PART 2

Saturday November 6th 1999
Atlanta GA
Nike Pavillion


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~DJ'S~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

*LIVE ACT T.B.A. SOON*

along with...

-J O S H   W I N K
 (ovum, philly)


-D I E S E L B O Y
 (tech itch, philly, uk)


-S I M P L Y  J E F F
 (dr. freeclouds, la)


-D A R A
 (breakbeat science, NY)


+ alot more to be added this week

2 rooms of sound of turbo sound
full color 3d lasers
plenty of free giveaways

18 and over

More info next week.

24 hour info 404-257-2515
or e-mail liquidgroove@mindspring.com

Peaceout
Devin















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My highlights friday were Matt + and Spree doing a tag team during this
Stardust wuz dropped and the HHC rmx of Believe which is total cheese but i
give Matt big props for dropping it..Matt Brandy came on after that and he
played some pretty banging techno which wuznt bad..wnet back to the
MW-Raves camp and hung out and listened to Craig be a pervert :P Went to
see Nitro spin as the sun wuz gettin ready to come up which kicked ass..i
wuz tired so i went to bed..
Ok saturday is when i learned sumthing really big..i decided to eat sum
acid early in the afternoon and was doing fine but then i totally started
freaking out..A lot of people from the list tried to help me and calm me
down but it just didnt work..The drug just controlled me...20 hours of
total hell wuz not worth it..and missing soo much saturday nite..so i
wasted my day by taking acid..it's good to kno that people from this list
tried to help..Gip,Soozi,Lora,Pixie,Tres,Mikey D, Doris,Shawn, Bekka, and
whoevah else i may have left out and you kno who you are. I thank you guys
for caring soo much for me and making sure i didnt do anything really
stupid and checking on..Big thanks to Mikey D and Doris for stayin in the
tent with me Saturday nite while you guys could have been going and
listening to this music. I kno i scared a lot of you guys and i'm sorry..I
learned nevah take more of what you can handle and also to never take acid
again.I didnt learn from the last time i had a bad trip and I defiantly
learned this time..it's not for everyone..if i wuz anywhere else i would
have either got arrested or flipped out a lot harder..Also a big thanks to
Jason and JJ for having people working for them that care and help..Ok
enough about that...Sunday after i woke up and wuz finally calm i went and
found sumone to go home with me and went to work..came back around 11:00 to
catch Benman on the decks and mic, he always brings such a vibe to a
party.after him came Acidpimp who rocked with a nice set of banging techno
but it wuz just a warmup for wut to come next...Richie Hawtin finally came
on a lil after 1:00 and wut wuz in store i had no idea..he took me on a
total journey with his music.playin sum really bangin and hard
shit..slowing it down and speeding it up milkin the 909 and effects Richie
defiantly was a total mindfuck..5 hours of non-stop dancing and when it was
over the crowd kept wanting more..At the end he just fucked it up with the
909..Clark Warner then took the decks and brought us back to reality with
sum really chilled morning music..went to Pixie and Tres tent during that
and finally passed out..Woke up around 8 and went home..I had a wonderful
time at ID except for Saturday but that was a learning expierence for me
and finally made me open my eyes up and see that i dont need that shit to
have a good time..Again big thanks to JJ and Jason for making ID possible
it was really a very special event..it was nice meeting everyone and hope
to see you guys soon :)

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Does anyone know of any websites that sell "chunky" shoes besides 
www.skechers.com........if so,please tell!!!!!
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Are there any pictures from Turned On anywhere on the web?????
Or from Mother Funker in Chicago??????
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okie...i just got back to reality and all and daaaaaaaamn...i must say ID
kicked my ass...definitely one of my favorite parties ever...the vibe on
friday and saturday was incredible...people seemed to be a lot more
friendly than usual...i met lots of kids and saw lotsa smiles...which is
cool cuz here lately it just seems like there is so much attitude kicked
around...but this weekend was kinda refreshing...=) 

got there approximately 830...ran into the mw-crew over by the second
stage listening to misha (...thank you for the tape btw)...from that point
on, the weekend's events just got better and better...=)

the venue was gorgeous...i love outdoor parties where there are actually
trees around and nature...the lake area *was* a little stinky i suppose...

mw-raves was in full effect...never seen so many damn many of us in one
place at one time (hell, even the netparty didnt have that many of us it
seemed...)  i dont even WANT to begin to name off people...cuz gawd knows
that would take all day and i dunno if i am awake enough to even think of
remembering everyone...

as far as dj sets go...RICHIE HAWTIN KICKED MAD ASS...nuff said...i cannot
even put into words how amazed i still am...i walked away from the
mainstage with a silly grin on my face after his set i will have to
say...dante also played a nice set...i missed the dance workshop
though...matt bandy kicked ass as well (but he still needed to "turn down 
his god-ass bass...") heheheh.....i heard part of odi's set, which he
spun a nice set i guess, but im not one for jumpup so i kinda had to
leave...i heard about five minutes of spree and matt positive (your dog
rawks*!) and that's about it (like i said before...i dont do happy
hardcore...) heard derek plaslaiko spin
twice...kicked my ass both times...=)  heard some of matt demmon's
set...which was interesting...i liked...heard a little bit of clark warner
but was too tired to care anymore...=(

my knees officially hate me now...by the time richie's set was over, i was
teetering around and in a nice amount of pain...i inhaled enough dust to
make my throat all messed up...i am also slightly sunburned....but all of
that was but a small pittance for the great time that i had...

driving home wasnt too bad...200 miles...got back a lil bit late, but oh
well...turns up that i prolly could have stayed later but fuggit..im glad
to be back already...=)

a quick shoutout to laura my wondahtwin, derek playstation, jason, pixie
and tres, dica, chris, bekka, storm, doug and annie, shiva, soozi, gip,
james, kurt, chad, tracy, and all the other list members that came out to
play...i sorry if i fergot anyone, but im am in desperate need of sleep so
bear with me here...heheh...

a huge neverending shoutout to jj and jason...you kick ass...=)  thank you
very much for giving us all the opportunity to participate in such a
beautiful event...=)  

other events that were kinda crazy:

the snake over by the drop bass area, setting up/taking down my tent (an
adventure within itself), making fun of the k-hole kid, threatening to
beat dica a million times in one weekend, calling chris dica, being
reminded of WHY i am glad i dont live in memphis anymore <smiles over at
laura>...heheh...

gotta goooooooo...sleep is calling meeeeeeeee...
lauryn
    

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i would just like to take this time to say that i am very helous of everyone 
who went to ID. that would be all.
thank you.
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It rocked.  I was very impressed.  It was more like an interactive art
exhibit than a 'rave.'
I would really love to see more parties thrown that are this creative
and feature more than
just DJs, sound systems and lights.  The biggest reason that I have
partially lost interest
in the rave scene (at least in actually going to parties) lately is
because it's just getting
so stale.  Creativity like this is wonderful.

Standard reviews:
  - Sound: incredible.  Loud but also crisp and clear and not distorted
or out of tune.
  - Lights: they must have had to notify the FAA about that laser.
Awesome.
  - Venue: It's nice to see a party at a venue that isn't hostile to the
concept of a rave
      and that actually works with the party rather than simply
'tolerating it' and then
      taking their money.
  - Crowd: Rather typical modern 'rave' crowd, but nothing very bad.
Everyone was
      pretty friendly and seemed to be having a great time.  Not the
best crowd I've ever
      seen but then again the days when you could throw a large-scale
party and get
      a 90% high-quality crowd are over due to the mainstream press
we've received and
      the fact that it's drawn in such a wider and more mainstream
crowd.  In some ways
      this is good, since it gives more exposure to the music.. but in
other ways it's kinda
      killing the uniqueness of the culture.

This was without any doubt one of the best if not the best run party
I've ever seen.  The
whole Strange Loop/Interstellar Outback/Whoever else was involved crew
has raised
the standards for production quality in the entire scene with this
event.  It was professional
but not sold-out and cheaply 'commercial.'  It was well-run and
organized but not anal
and repressive.  And so on, and so on.

Some of the things I enjoyed most:

- The 'art exhibits..' e.g. peoples' republic of delicous food, etc.
- Ritchie Hawtin
- The goa stage on Saturday night
- The lake
- Meeting a lot of cool people.. many of whose names I have forgotten.
(I'm bad that way)
(Greetings to: The Iowa Massive, ChrisE, Bekka, Princess Applesauce, and
anyone else
I met but forgot about :)
- Getting laughs out of: The Drop Bass stage (I've heard stories before
but I've never
actually witnessed Drop Bass), PRDF, the guys walking around yelling
'Worship Tellie's
Penis' with a mutilated teletubbie on a stick, 'Got Ass' (if you don't
know, don't ask), and
all sorts of other assorted sights.

Some of the things I enjoyed least (sorry, gotta put this in there):

- A large number of rather moronic people-- again this isn't the
promoters' fault but
the fault of the scene going more mainstream.
- The heat
- The lack of running water (at least mostly)
- The mosquitos

Wow.  I'm tired and my feet hurt.

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from this point on, I will be posting all of my reviews ad WORDS.  Words 
will be divided into 2 sections Word to for positive and Word against for 
the negative...I more or less describe my thoughts on the party...no 
shit...is'nt that what a review is all about?? if you are one who likes to 
read detailed descriptions on dj's sets and other thongs of that 
nature...WORDS may not be for you...however, if you are looking for a good 
time via a screen...this could be your chance...oh yeah...word is properly 
pronounced soit rhymes with bird or turd...now lets begin...

Interstellar Dreamfest sept3-6

word to the venue...wow is all that can be said

word to the sound...even for a regular speaker freaker use to being right up 
to the sound, I had to plug my ears when I walked in front of the 
speakers...and not just loud...crisp and clear too

word to the lights and lasers...I coulda watched that argon for years...know 
where I can get one for my room?

word to the lake...nothing like a refreshing swim on a hot day

word to the people who lived on the property...thank you for letting us 
terrorize your hood

word to the promoters...JJ and Jason, you blew my mand and have forever 
changed how I look at parties

word to lookin like a pimp between 2 girls on a golfcart...you had to have 
seen me...my smile wouldn't stop

word to partying sober...drugs suck

word to ricA for the ride...self explanitory

word to the cops I talked to...very friendly and cool

word to the DJ's...amoung the faves...Spree, Matt Positive, Nitro, Richie 
Hawtin, Dan Efex, Stan Doublin, Dante and many others...

word to my friends...whether you be new old or inbetween, I love you 
all...amy and erika, thank you for letting me vent I need it

word to being able to have a great time at a party for the first time in a 
month and a half...drama sucks

word to sandiches...out on the dance floor

word to all vegi food...keep the carnivores away so they are not tempted...

word to poopstains the dog...ask dj booth

word to the peoples republic...you are the coolest, the parades were 
fabulous

word to diversity...both in types of people as well as where you came 
from...

word to the stl vibe patrol...you'r great...thanks for lettin me hang

word to the vibe at the party...always good

word to the rave summitt...lots of great things were brought and 
discussed...if you weren't there please find someone who was...

word to the tractor and trailor...I was gettin real sick of walking

word to jonesburg, mo and jimmy....the guy who hooked us up when we got a 
flat on the way home he also tried to sell us drugs

word to the mechanic shop...(engine-newity) in new florence, mo that was 
open on labor day

__________________________

word against the dust...it is scientifically proven that you eat about 7 
pounds of dirt a year...I ate at least 50 in 4 days

word against whatever happened to the dreamcatcher...I'm pretty sure that it 
was an accident and I hope that whomever did it has appologized.  if you 
have not and happen to be reading this...please appologize to the venue 
owners...they would appreciate it, they told me so themselfs

word against getting fucked over by yet another girl...hey thats 3 in less 
than a month and all in some way because of this scene...PLEASE, if you see 
me trying to hook up at a party...feel free to slap some scence into me and 
remind me of this little note

word against drugs...once again, they suck

word against people who tell others not to do drugs and then do them...umm 
what kind of message does that portray??

word against the heat...trying to sleep during the day in that was almost a 
joke

word against the tractor driver when we were tryng to get to richie...the 
having to yell to get you to move was getting old...(*)

word against not having something to project the lazer on beside the tiny 
ghetto screen..to have seen that in full size would have been nuts

word against the flat tire on the way home...nothing like adding and hour to 
the time the filth stays on you...

______________

oh yeah one more...word to....your mom


dylan dorrell
strung out productions
rave sober
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In a message dated 9/6/99 1:16:56 PM Central Daylight Time, 
djcloudskipper@hotmail.com writes:

<< IMO, this might've been our worst performance since it was the first.  >>

Thats why it was the best.  =P

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WHAT: CEREBRAL GROOVES AFTERPARTY (18+)
WHEN: Monday, Sept 6 (doors 8pm; show 9pm)
WHERE: First Ave Mainroom
COST: ?
DJs:
Atmostphere
Musab
Los Nativos
Eyedea
Abilities
Francisco
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WHAT: LIQUID (18 to attend; 21 to drink)
WHEN: Tuesday, Sept 7 (9:30-12:30)
WHERE: 1421 14th Ave SE (Dinkytown, Mpls)
COST: $5
INFO: 651.220.9780 (ProVibe)
DJs:
Kat in the Hat
Lil' Aaron
CJ Skyy
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: OUR HOUSE
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 8
WHERE: Ground Zero
COST: 18+ $4; 21+ FREE
DJs:
Alayah
Beef
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: PLANET FUNK
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 8 (7:00)
WHERE: The New Union
COST: $5
DJs:
DJ Free-T
DJ Joel Soul
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: ELECTRIC LIGHTS
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 8 (11pm-3am)
WHERE: Central City Theater (343 E Lake St Mpls)
COST: $5
DJs:
DJ Linc
Kamushi
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: STUDIO 33
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 10 (doors @ 8pm)
WHERE: 110 N 5th St (downtown Mpls - warehouse dist - enter in alley)
COST: 18+ $10; 21+ $6
INFO: 612.338.6169
DJs:
-Room One-
Monte Hillman
DJ Drone
Jezus Juice
DJ Echo
Jiz the Goods
Alfredo
Alex Jarvis
-Room Two-
MC Brace & DJ Cypher
Julius Romero
Tyrone & DJ Fuddles
Dr. Strangelove
Karl Who?
CJ Skyy
DJ Spree
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: INNER SANCTUM (18+)
WHEN: Friday, Sept 10 (midnight-3am)
WHERE: Foxfire Coffee Lounge (downtown Mpls)
COST: $5
DJs:
DJ Pull
Slow Derek
Centrific
+others TBA
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: BEATOPIA (21+)
WHEN: Friday, Sept 10 (10pm-3am)
WHERE: First Ave VIP Room
COST: FREE before 11pm with flyer; $3 before 11pm; $5 11pm-12am; $6 
12am-close
DJs:
-vary weekly-
Dean Vaccaro
Alexander East
PD Spinlove
Greg Comstock
Monte Hillman
Alex Jarvis
Alan Freed
E-Tones
Drone
Cee-Bee
Bionic
Jezus Juice
Ravin' Rob
Spiral
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: GROOVE GARDEN (broadcast LIVE on KFAI 90.3 & 106.7 FM)
WHEN: Saturday, Sept 11 (7-9pm)
WHERE: First Ave VIP Room (enter through side door of 1st Ave if club is not 
open for a mainroom show)
COST: FREE!
DJ:
E-Tones
~~~~~~~~~~

WHAT: BLACK ELVIS TOUR (All Ages)
WHEN: Sunday, Sept 12 (5pm doors)
WHERE: First Ave Mainroom
COST: $14 advance; $17 door
INFO: 612.338.8388
DJs:
Kool Keith
DJ Spooky
~~~~~~~~~~

Have fun and party safe!

Tanya :)



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Hey Hey...i finally joined mw-raves after a long awaited journey through the 
midwest...what can i say..i procrastinate a lot ;)  I'm representin' a little 
bit of MPLS love but i'm gonna fight a war for some bangin Techno and 
Tech-house!!!!!!!!What can i say...

Listen all MPLS promotors!!! YES, i'm talking to u..Allied substructure, soul 
theology, provibe, Keepers of the sound...and all u other production 
crews...bring DAN DELIVERANCE to MPLS...or i'm moving to kansas city where 
they have him spinning at "Temple of FU" on NOV 6th where i'll be in sight of 
scott henry, tony markham, Rectangle..huggy...must i say more....<looks all 
confused.."why am i promoting a kansas city party?"..because they have all 
the dj's i wanna see!!!!> If u don't have a dan deliverance tape of 
cut...i'll give u his sample track...but i must have it back ;)....if 
so...then make DD the next contestant on the DJ is friggin Right!!!!  

Anyways i'm  new to mw-raves and would like to give shouts to my girl jen 
sixtybus and all the mpls kids...and if i have made an ass of myself..then 
now u really know me ;)  I can't wait to meet all u midwest kids out 
there!!!!!!!!!
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>~~~~~~~~~~
>
>WHAT: BLACK ELVIS TOUR (All Ages)
>WHEN: Sunday, Sept 12 (5pm doors)
>WHERE: First Ave Mainroom
>COST: $14 advance; $17 door
>INFO: 612.338.8388
>DJs:
>Kool Keith
>DJ Spooky
>~~~~~~~~~~

Is this tour coming through Chicago or
Wisconsin?  Both of these guys have
played in Milwaukee/Madison within the
last year, but I still have to check them
out in the flesh.

I heard Dr. Dooom puts on a really crappy/
short show, but I don't know if that applies
to the Kool Keith monicker.

Maybe I'm all mixed up.  Kool Keith/Mike
Stanley/Dr. Dooom/Dr. Octagon, right?

And DJ Spooky, well, he could just sit
there jacking off and I'd still be impressed.

np: Carl Craig "More Music about Food and
Revolutionary Art" [planet e]... _whew!_

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In a message dated 9/6/99 7:19:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
MadSkLLz79@aol.com writes:

<< Anyways i'm  new to mw-raves and would like to give shouts to my girl jen 
 sixtybus and all the mpls kids...and if i have made an ass of myself..then 
 now u really know me ;) >>


Ahh jeah!  Glad to have this girl and her meatballs on the list.  
Ass is right!   :)  ("oh god, this is so intense..  Jen, you're mah sista!  I 
love you girl!  I'm gonna go to sleep, really I am...  if it weren't for 
these damn meatballs coming out of my head! <waves arms around>) 

Glad to have ya around baby!

Jen (Sixtybus)
-----------------------
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=reader's digest version=

music - ok, it was ritchie & crew.  i feel that speaks for itself.  coolest
part of the evening:  clark warner, kooky scientist, and acquaviva played
some really chill, downbeat music.  without warning, ritchie slides in and
drops this POW POW POW POW kick, hops up on the table, and pounds his fists
in the air with the beat.  the expression on his face was SAVAGE.  i imagine
he played a similar set at ID, so most of you know what happens next :)

lights - this was ritchie's night, so the lights and decorations were all
set to his specifications (or so i was told).  not real extravagant but i
don't like overkill on the lights.

sound - A +++

venue - mad decorations.  very important to the mood

mood (not to be confused with vibe) - this party was ALL about it.  most
parties don't really achieve that certain mood.  this mood
was....um....complete?  not really sure how to describe it.  just surreal, i
guess.

hotty factor - girls 3.5/10 (broken hoes man).

ok, my review sucks, but i don't think anyone else went so i tried!

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>In a message dated 9/6/99 7:19:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
>MadSkLLz79@aol.com writes:
>
><< Anyways i'm  new to mw-raves and would like to give shouts to my girl jen 
> sixtybus and all the mpls kids...and if i have made an ass of myself..then 
> now u really know me ;) >>
>
>
>Ahh jeah!  Glad to have this girl and her meatballs on the list.  
>Ass is right!   :)  ("oh god, this is so intense..  Jen, you're mah sista!
 I 
>love you girl!  I'm gonna go to sleep, really I am...  if it weren't for 
>these damn meatballs coming out of my head! <waves arms around>) 


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
did I mention... HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Caroline, great to have you on the list *finally*

Ryan

"This girl deserves a medal!" <points at sleepy Jen>
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> I heard Dr. Dooom puts on a really crappy/
> short show
> Maybe I'm all mixed up.  Kool Keith/Mike
> Stanley/Dr. Dooom/Dr. Octagon, right?

Everyone that I know that's seen the Black Elvis tour so far has been
disappointed. The whole No Limit takeoff seems like a funny gimmick at
first, but I guess he takes it a little too far. He brings girls on stage
and does all this stupid 2 live crew type stuff... hehe

Yeah dr.octagon/doom/etc are the same guy

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I'm not really going to review this weekend. I'm just going to make a big
list of what was cool.

What Was Cool About My Weekend at Interstellar Dreamfest
an essay by Matt Demmon

-The place was fuckin' rad. Lakes and trees, paths, etc. Plenty large to
hold everyone.
-There were tons of people getting fucked up all day long! It was great to
mess with them, or just laugh out at how fucking hilariously out of their
minds they were!
-Some of the DJs. Spree and Laffey were great. Derek Plaslaiko was great.
Shiva fucking ROCKED. Acid Pimp was pounding yet a little sloppy.
-Getting to spin on 3 seperate occassions, for a total of almost 5 hours.
Thank you Drop Bass and to Kevin and whoever else was in charge of the
chill dome.
-Seeing a ton of friends.
-The Urbana Rave Army was in full effect. I estimate around 40 U-C kids
where there, even the ones that live in Chicago and Minneapolis and Boston
now. We the hardest corest.
-The sound was fucking rockin'.
-The vendor's food was very good.
-Richie.
-Whipping my cock out in front of thousands while Benman played.

What kind of sucked but did not in anyway interfere with me having a
blast:

-The dust.
-Those fucking annoying lights at the main stage. They made me feel like I
was on about 30 hits of acid even though I was sober. I was disoriented
and couldn't walk a straight line.
-The really shitty cheezy jump up jungle.
-BENMAN! He was funny for about 5 minutes.


But anyways, this was not a normal party in anyway. It was set up right,
it was chill, it was intense, it was just hanging with friends. It was
great. Thanks a lot to j-sun and jj. See ya next year fuckos.

Matt


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Hi kids, 
 Since most of this has already been covered....I'm just gonna hit the high 
points of the weekend. 
- ST. Louis Kids- There were so many kids from St. Louis there that it seemed 
like a hometown party. Mad props to the vibe patrol and all the people 
promoting the St.Louis scene. BTW, Toby, I asked about you all weekend and 
yet never found you to meet you. 
- Great talent. (Shiva, Derek Plastiko, ODI, and Hawtin were my faves.)
- 2nd Stage- Phantasm crew provided a nice alternative to the main stage. 
Great people over there too. 
- The lake. Once you got in, it wasnt as smelly as it appeared. Got me a nice 
little sunburn too. 
- ***** The people who own the place (Yoga farm folks)******- It was so 
refreshing to see some people driving around that lived there that enjoyed 
what we were trying to do. These folks were awesome. Thank you for letting us 
share your beautiful space. 
-  Last but not least.   Jeremy, the Tractor driver had the quote of the 
weekend. "You know your a redneck if...... you drive a tractor to a rave!"  I 
thought that the hayride was an added bonus for my $25. 

Hope that everyone had as good a time as I did. It was a great party all 
around. 
<<<<<<<<<<HUGZ>>>>>>>>>>
Laura

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 03:13:13 1999
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i was just kidding about Temple of FU being in Kansas city..it's really in 
Omaha...i just need to lay off the crack sometimes...<writes in a 
notebook..makes personal note"made an ass of myself on sept 6th"...> =Dok..i 
was told by the man himself..after all i couldn't send all u people to kansas 
city on a big hoax..can i? ;)
thanks for putting up with my BS ;)
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I wanted to get ahold of her, since she's moved to Portland, and my
parents live there now.. So I can see mah girl when we visit out there...

Please hit me back privately if you have it... swank@barkingcat.org no
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----- Original Message -----

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THE NEXT TIME YOU'RE HAVING A BAD DAY (this was an 
article in the CALIFORNIA EXAMINER, March 20, 1998):

Fire Authorities in California found a corpse in a burnt out section
of forest while assessing the damage done by a forest fire. The
deceased male was dressed in a full wet suit, complete with a dive
tank, flippers, and facemask. A post-mortem examination revealed
that the person died not from burns but from massive internal
injuries. Dental records provided a positive identification.
Investigators then set about determining how a fully clad diver
ended up in the middle of a forest fire. It was revealed that, on the day of 
the fire, the person went for a diving trip off the coast--some 20 miles 
away from the forest. The firefighters, seeking to control the fire
as quickly as possible, called in a fleet of helicopters with very
large buckets. The  buckets were dropped into the ocean for rapid
filling, then flown to the forest fire and emptied.  You guessed it.
One minute our diver was making like Flipper in the Pacific, the
next the was doing a breaststroke in a fire bucket 300 feet in the
air.  Apparently, he extinguished exactly 5'10" of the fire. Some
days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed.

STILL THINK YOU'RE HAVING A BAD DAY? THINK AGAIN. (The following is taken 
from a Florida newspaper:)

A man was working on his motorcycle on his patio and his wife was in
the house in the kitchen. The man was racing the engine on the
motorcycle and somehow, the motorcycle slipped into gear. The man,
still holding the handlebars, was dragged through a glass patio door
and along with the motorcycle dumped onto the floor inside the
house. The wife, hearing the crash, ran into the dining room, and
found her husband laying on the floor, cut and bleeding, the
motorcycle laying next to him and the patio door shattered. The wife
ran to the phone and summoned an ambulance.  Because they lived on a fairly 
large hill, the wife went down the several flights of long
steps to the street to direct the paramedics to her husband.  After
the ambulance arrived and transported the husband to the hospital,
the wife uprights the motorcycle and pushed it outside. Seeing that
gas had spilled on the floor, the wife obtained some papers towels,
blotted up the gasoline, and threw the towels in the toilet.
The husband was treated at the hospital and was released to come
home.
After arriving home, he looked at the shattered patio door and the
damage done to his motorcycle. He became despondent, went into the bathroom, 
  sat on the toilet and smoked a cigarette. After finishing
the cigarette, he  flipped it between his legs into the toilet bowl
while still seated.  The wife, who was in the kitchen, heard a loud
explosion and her husband screaming. She ran into the bathroom and
found her husband lying on the floor. His trousers had been blown
away and he was suffering burns on the buttocks, the back of his
legs and his groin.  The wife again ran to the phone and called for
an ambulance.
The same ambulance crew was dispatched and the wife met them at the street. 
The paramedics loaded the husband on the stretcher and began carrying him to 
the street. While they were going down the stairs to the street accompanied 
by the wife, one of the paramedics asked the wife how the husband had burned 
himself. She told them and the paramedics started laughing so hard, one of 
them tipped the
stretcher and dumped the husband out. He fell down the remaining
steps and broke his arm.

Now THAT is a bad day...
DOESN'T PAY TO SMOKE EITHER!!!

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no more soda machines for my ass

-Aaron
"The International House of Boogie"



WASHINGTON - by R. S. OAKS  The National Office of Drug Control Policy
and a
cosortium of major prison builders today announced a partnership to
install 1200
new high-tech vending machines in strategic high crime areas within the
next 18
months.
Affectionately dubbed Arrest-O-Matic by its’ creators, these
‘smart-machines’ are
designed to look like ordinary snack, beverage or change machines. The
difference?
They will perform a lightning-fast drug-trace ion detection scan on all
currency it
receives.
If money tests negative the machine wilI dispense the selected product
with a
flashing “Thank You”.
If results are positive for up to 8 illegal drugs the machine will
deliver, with help
from its’ computerized infra-red stereo imaging cameras, twin electronic
Tazer-darts
to stun the suspect long enough to drop and draw a flexible steel cable
net tightly
around the offender and notify authorities to arrive for further
processing.
Any resistance or escape attempts will be detected by motion sensors
which will
increase the voltage to the Tazers until the suspect is safely subdued.
While waiting for police to arrive a pre-programmed audio chip will
inform suspects
of their rights under the Miranda Act and digitally record their
responses.
Arrest-O-Matic telephones police, reports it’s location code, and
detains the suspect.
It seals up the evidence and prints out a scientific lab report of the
drugs found and
the serial number of the currency, along with an audio/video cassette
recording of
the entire arrest sequence.
Officially known as “Computerized Arrestor for Rapid Enforcement -
(CARE)”, each
Arrest-O-Matic is estimated to cost about 1.7 million dollars plus
installation and
maintenance.
Addressing the question of cost, spokesperson Rich Powers received a
standing
ovation in concluding that, “with an annual budget of billions dollars
for the drug
war, this expense, to be paid out over ten years, is insignificant
compared to seeing
the justice of millions of arrogant drug using criminals, flagrant
lawbreakers, finally
sent to prison for a long, long time, which they so rightly deserve”.
Those behind Arrest-O-Matic expect to earn millions in profits from
rewards,
bounties, shared asset forfeiture proceeds; sale and maintenance of the
units; as
well as snack and soft drink sales.
Several overseas governments, including Burma, Brazil and Thailand, have

expressed interest in the units.
Civil liberties advocates have expressed concern about wide-ranging
issues of
privacy, search and seizure, presumption of innocence and some studies
which
claim that 60 to 80 per cent of all U. S. currency carries evidentiary
traces of illegal
drugs, most often cocaine.
The announcement today spurred considerable activity on Wall Street in
construction, computers, and enforcement sectors as states rallied for
big windfalls
from expected prison growth as a result of the CARE units.


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Hiya kiddies!
Welp, I'm back from my flake-out one-night-stand of I.D.  I didn't get
there until Sunday evening...that being last night of course.  
Got one thing to say.
Only I can't, cuz I'm still hacking up rocks from all the dust!  WOO HOO!
hee

Ok, and now about the party...
MMMM MMMM Good.... better than some home cooked chitlins on a sesame seed
bun!
I had an absolute blast, and I don't even like Techno (Sorry Richie,
spin some Jungle, or Trance!!! mmmmmmm heh heh hehhhh)... well, ok, I
discovered I kinda like a certain type of techno, which i wasn't
previously aware that it WAS techno... but we won't go into that.
*scratchscratch*
------------------
MY HI POINTS:
 -Found all the tired-ass, hot-as-hell, wish-I-could-shower,
swam-in-a-slimey-lake-today (3 or 4 times), U/C kids and began to enjoy
myself... thinking the whole time that I was REALLY happy I don't
camp-out.  hee
 -Met Matt Positive, and though he was nice and all, I only hung out with
him because I liked Carl (Karl?).  *grin* 
 -Gave Matt+ Mad Props... not cuz of his spinning, not cuz of productions
past, no no no, mad props cuz he was renting a hotel room and showering
twice a day!  heh heh, sorry had to give out the secret you dog! (Matt,
not Carl...dog that is)
 -Loved Matt Demmons Noise-Insanity-Core set at the DB tent.
 -Don't know who the DJs were in the Ambient tent, but I really liked
about 3 of them.
 -Got a hellified kick out of the DB tent as they jacked Black Sabbath and
other Death Metal during the early (11pm?) evening.  It was really cool,
cuz you'd go walking past that tent, then down into that dark-as-hell path
that spanned between the camping and main stage.
 -Really liked Acid Pimps mixing.
 -Urbana/Chamaign MASSSSSSSSSIIIIIFFF!  hee...
 -Seeing MikeyD about to drop trou next to the "Got Ass" sign, so Peter
could take a pic.  
 -Turning away b4 having to actually SEE mikeys bare ass.

--
Major Suckage:
 -Dust made me puke.  ugh Oh well, price you pay.  =)
 -Note for future reference: Don't go to stinky pond to wash the dust off
your sweaty arms and hands... You don't get clean, you get dusty and
SLIMY!  Yeeeugh!
 -Right when I wanted to be dancing the most....The man being 'the man at
the decks'. Dude... plllleeeeeaaaaase stop dropping the beats out for like
6 minutes to ask me if I feel them.  I became afraid to start dancing, cuz
I just KNEW the beat would dissappear as soon as I did.  sigh  I really
would have liked his mixing... but damn!  rrrrrrrr. 
 -

And the big big sucka thing... The peeps who decided that climbing on the
Dream Catcher was a good idea, and bent the metal frame in half.  So damn
lame... =P

Much love to everyone who was at the party, the promoters, and the little
tree-frog (damn he was cute).  You all did me juuuust right. 
Oh yah... and to the United *something* of Deliscious Food.. WOO HOO! Why
can't you do that at indoor parties?  =)  
(Justin, those knee-hi socks on your boy scout uniform were just tooo
much.  =)

PLURRRY PLURRRY PLURRRY PLURRRRRRRR!!!

plur plur plur rulp rulp rulp!!!

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i hate to spam you with this, but myself and a few friends are offering
hosting services for promoters and other rave-related content at reduced
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> claim that 60 to 80 per cent of all U. S. currency carries evidentiary
> traces of illegal
> drugs, most often cocaine.
 
<snip>

so they are pretty much screwing everyone...if something like that
happened to me, i would be rather pissed off...i would sue...that is a
major violation of civil rights...any city that actually puts those out on
the streets should thoroughly expect lawsuits...granted, they are doing
that in high crime areas...but look how many children might be exposed to
those damn tazers and all of that as well...kids getting drinks could be
stunned because maybe their parents are fuckups, not them...money gets
circulated through so many people so why do they honestly think this will
help out?  if the country decides to go through with installation of these
machines, i will be damned if i ever think of getting a soda ANYWHERE out
of a machine again...=P  

okie...i'm outta here...gotta go back to workin on my japanese
homework...=)

lates
lauryn

------------------------
-lauryn m. goller
-indiana university
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juss wanted to let everyone know a few things...

first off... Scott Henry will NOT be at this party... unfortunately the
pre-fliers were made before the booking was confirmed...

second... Dan Deliverance will be going at on 4 tables with Lee in the mw
banging techno fest of the millineum....

now you know...

peace...

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Heya..
Some friends and I are thinking about heading down to Omaha for PLUR 99.  
Does anyone know how long it takes to get to St Louis from there or where 
somewhere cheap would be to stay?
OOOH!  and could I get a line up too?  I seem to have misplaced my flyer.  Is 
 ADB gonna be there?  =)


Thanks!
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i need to get ahold of a girl with the screen name L3lutopaz, well that was 
her screen name and now it says she isn't a member... i know she is on this 
list... can anyone help?
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Okay..so it was great.

minus the dust and all that crap.

things i noticed, liked, disliked...
i liked the space...so much wilderness..with fucking trash all over it.. 
props to the mw-raves campers fer picking up so well that when i woke up 
alone with the crack head campers behind where we were...i didn't have to do 
much but throw shit in the car..

i liked spree/matt's set..too fucking bad it was mulled over by some 
rock-star wanna-be who cut the set short by 20 minutes.. and 'who' exactly 
told you to do this??  yeah...props to c/karl for not killing this guy.

I didnt' like the ck models camped behind our 'post'... matt, lora, sean.. is 
that some scary shit er what???  "is that mesh or WHAT?"

i fucking horked on AcidPimps set...dooood..he gave me multiples!!! ayayaya!
what a guy...i'm happy he filled between hawtin and 'that one singin' guy
Christ on the PLanet, that was a good set!

Hawtin...Mmmm....yeah.

I didn't like seeing all of the fucked up people running around.. and I swear 
I almost hit people with the 'raver whacker' but damnit...(sigh)...didn't 
mame ONE.  Ya know why they were handing out those lil ribbons at the front 
gate...cuz when people start screwin' around with stuff..they die.  I almost 
wanna say it's too bad more people didn't learn their lessons this 
weekend...but, I'm too friggin' nice to do that.

I didn't like the lights during hawtin...they made me ill..nothing like 
feeling drugged and walking like a gimp when you already have to deal with 
gravel and drugged up morons shoving into you.

Bhahahaa...funny event right before hawtin.. guy smokin' next to me outta 
this huge pipe....and (teehee)...i leaned over and told him ...oh n/m

so the mw-raves camp was nice...man, taco hell..nothing like it on a sunday 
night guys, eh?  Speaking of which...i fell asleep with four people in my 
tent, what happened to them?  I know one lost his keys, the other two 
went...where?

well, despite all the yucky stuff..there were great sets..including chris 
ege's set.. it was....sooo sweet... acidpimp, did i mention that the set he 
spun sunday night made him my newest hawtin jr.?  nitro...fitting as 
always..and quite the mr. snuggles.... 

oh...new people i met and wanna say sumpin' ta...

luis aguilera...damnit..i have this stupid poo-binky and a life guard 
whistle..help me out with an addy por favor...i can't keep a POO binky

andre...yeah..thanks fer making that trip to st louis a lil more enjoyable 
than it could have been.

J-sun...darlin...thanks so much for this....weekend..(that doesn't seem like 
a good enough word, but sleep dep prevents me from elaborating)

The walking sticks...ya know.. the first time i felt you crawling up my arm.. 
it was fine, and then when you made craig piss his pants b/c he wanted you 
'off of me!!!" it was funny even.. but when you and yer buddy decided to 
scare the piss outta me doing 80 mph on the way to Bloomington, I had 
enough...

Well, i might have additional shit to say later..but sleep...a nice 2 hours 
before i go to work..yeah!

suzi/s00zi
ps...i did NOT touch scrotum!!!!!!  I did NOT touch taint!!!!!!  It was the 
evil twin i swear it..*I* didn't do anything... the evil boi came outta 
nowhere!!!!!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 12:06:28 1999
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hey guys...
need some input.
i got a real audio mix up on my web site now...
it's about 20 minutes or less of techno.
here is the link:   http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/technomonkey1.htm
the track listing is located there.
i recorded it so that it would be optimized for a 56k modem.....
so it might lag on anything less...
or may not work on other types of whatchamacallits.
let me know what you all think.
i would appreciate it if my fellow dj's would offer criticism other than

saying "get a better sound card fucker"...i already know that.
sorry it's so short...my hard drive don't have much memory on it.
feel free to check out the rest of the site, and let me know how bad
that sucks too.
k?
right on...
metal rulez the millennium
thanks in advance.

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-techno is my drug of choice
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 13:01:26 1999
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All right all you Urbana kids.....do you guys know if Justin has an email
address?  If yes, could one of you please send it to me?  Thanks!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 14:02:19 1999
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Does ne1 know of ne pawteees taking place in KC or St. Louis this coming
Saturday?  Can ya forward the info onto me?  

thanx

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It's Still In The Crate



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hehe i got to see him play a couple months ago n head butt with him for a 
while after the show

say roc
roc
::bam::

say rawl
rawl
::bam::


song's called suck a crazy sheep dog's dick
suck a crazy sheep dog's dick

SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!!!!!!!

SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nnothing

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 14:36:12 1999
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important message from an old friend.

-chad

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Insipex 
To: mwraves@hyperreal.org ; mw-raves@hyperreal.org 
Cc: modular-list@wizoo.com 
Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:05 AM
Subject: [way OFF] sad.. and sick.. very sick...


*WARNING, DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT
TO BE EXPOSED TO THE SICKEST SIDE OF AMERICA*

I wish this was a joke.. this makes me sad.. very sad..
Please, no discussion of this on the modular list, WAY
to off topic.. but I wanted to let somebody see this..
it has .. well... damn.. this is sad..

http://kids.stormfront.org/

o0o[qiB.]o0o  :(... 

sorry for breaking up the fun times =)..

[qiBbish disclaimer: if you think I am like this, support this
or touch myself to this.. your one dumb fuck ;)  ]..



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 14:41:36 1999
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> >5)Tony Rohr (of prototype909)
> >
>
>
>I don't know who this Tony Rohr guy is, but he's not
>part of Prototype 909.
>
>P-909 is (was) Jason, Dietrich
>and Taylor.

oops...you know what...i meant to type "(or prototype 909)", like it was a 
tie... sorry....
no need to get snippy...
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 07 14:47:57 1999
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My friend came over last night with ABRAND SPANKING NEW WESLEY ALBUM
GReatest HIts VOl.2...it has a 7inch in it also and a 32p age long essay 
called"Why i love wesley willis "by Jello BIafra.

And so much i have never heard before

Like ...
They threw me out of church
Make sure iam out screwing up

and i think bound to be an all time fav of mine

CUT THE MULLET

I am so lucky

whendee

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NothingARN@aol.com wrote:

> hehe i got to see him play a couple months ago n head butt with him
> for a
> while after the show
>
> say roc
> roc
> ::bam::
>
> say rawl
> rawl
> ::bam::
>
> song's called suck a crazy sheep dog's dick
> suck a crazy sheep dog's dick
>
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!!!!!!!
>
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> nnothing

ummmm.

what are we forgetting at the end there?

hmmmmmm?

tell em phil.

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http://poofin.com/arno/
1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010

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>things i noticed, liked, disliked...
>i liked the space...so much wilderness..with fucking trash all over it..
>props to the mw-raves campers fer picking up so well that when i woke up
>alone with the crack head campers behind where we were...i didn't have to 
>do
>much but throw shit in the car..
>

thank sean...he did most of it....

>I didnt' like the ck models camped behind our 'post'... matt, lora, sean.. 
>is
>that some scary shit er what???  "is that mesh or WHAT?"

except for having to stare at that girls tits, it was ok...they were pretty 
entertaining...

>I almost hit people with the 'raver whacker' but damnit...(sigh)...didn't
>mame ONE.

who gave that bitch a mag lite? thats all i want to know...
=P

**lora**
--my review coming later...

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    Well, I brought 2 people with me that had never been to an outdoor,
what a first for them. We got there at exactly 4:20 am sunday morning,
just in time to catch return to the source on system 2.  Those guys were
dope.  Went back to the car and met a group of kids from Springfield,
Mo.  They were the coolest, so we just set up camp w/them.  Just kinda
wandered around for the rest of the night talking to people.  I loved
walking to the main stage with no light, it rocked.  Next was the best
part of my weekend, the hose by the main stage.  If you didn't wash up
in it, you don't know what u were missin.
    I hear u all talk and talk about richie on here, but I had never
heard him and couldn't see what the big deal was.  Well, I found out. It
should be against the law for 1 person to drop the beat that hard for
that long.  He just pounds u with them.  I got in the break circle for
the first time this weekend.  Everyone involved was great, it was all
about combining and not so much about battling.  The people that lived
on the site were great, especially the yoga teacher, man that was
refreshing.  I was amazed at how well everyone used their garbage bags
and cans, very little trash on the ground.  J-Sun and JJ, u guys are the
best.  Easily the best party I have been to and one of the best times of
my life.  Great place, great people, great music.
Physically and mentally drained,
Stumpy


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What a shitty weekend!!!!!
Well the weekend began with a sour note when i learned
that all my friends(the ones who haven't left for
college yet) wanted to stay in town(cincinnati) and
watch the riverfest fireworks, instead of going to ID.
so after a few hours of sulking :-( , i decided i
could still go to a party in columbus on sunday called
clockwork sundays. atleast go to a party right...
wrong! the kid i was supposed to cruise up to columbus
with pulled out at 8PM and said he didn't want to go.
he could've told me that 5 hours EARLIER! so pist as
hell, had no other back up plans and even missed the
shitty fireworks. aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
o well, i ended up chilling with some old friends and
had an ok night.
hope you all had a great time at ID for me, and can't
wait till next weekend and DEJA VU to make up for this
weekend.
~ian~ =)

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i am not "reviewing" this weekends event simply because it meant so many 
different things to so many different people...but i do have a few 
comments...

all you net raver fukkers made my weekend...soozi (who is a crazy 16 year 
old with a mag lite and a staff pass)bekka, doris, sean,
lauryn(my wondertwin), pixie&tres, misha (who talks really funny), james and 
not to mention all the irc fukkers (where was candyhoe=P)

whoevers idea it was to kick chrise off the tables 3 records into his set 
needs to be shot...

thanx to the drop bass crew for cheering me on sunday morning while i was in 
the woods taking care of...well, you know...

playstation's car is very dirty...

again misha talks REALLY funny

maybe the most fun/scary experience i had all weekend was when david 
hollands and i commandeered a golf cart and romped thru the woods and 
such...although we almost ended up in the lake...

i hated the lake...but i swam anyway (can anyone say hot as fukk?)
but those of you who got naked, and you know who you are, thanx for 
sharing...

one thing that worried me was matt+'s dog, where the hell was karl...i only 
saw him once all weekend...is he ok?

good music: richie (duh), derekplaystation, david hollands, odi,vhs or beta, 
chrise at the drop bass area on sunday....

im still recovering, so i may have more to say later....
one more thing...not nearly enough beer...
**lora**


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Chad and ya'll, ghandi's anniversary is coming soon. Many of you may
think this is bullshit. I too am full of hate on occasion, I can dig a
meat show like Trunk can, but this little one is phuct up, and my guess
is his environment perpetuates this. This kid had a bad encounter with
some mothafuckas who have already begun to shape his world attitudes. It
pisses me off, but the only way to get to them is by being so nice it
makes them sick. If they become angry it fuels the fire but again
becomes out of sight out of mind. To really phuc with their minds give
them something to think about that will burn at their soul until they go
either one way or the other. If this page pisses you off, overload his
account with mail telling him what you think, not instigating his
negative actions. If you all are really about PLUR, or the attitude
behind it hook this little brother up with much mail. I would never
scream plur to any of you, but if ya'll were neked, i would give you a
shirt. Actions speak much louder than words. Specially if i just came up
to ya and kicked ya in yer ass, which is basically what i have done to
yound derek. Following is the mail i sent to our little racist. If you
think i am right on then send him mail to and then post the letters to
the list. Word to all of yo mama, and no dicks in the mashed potatoes
please, it gives them a natty aftataste.
          peace, pmp.




I am a Mexican-American and I couldn't agree more with you. Until I am
removed from the members of various races that attempt to oppress me I
will never be able to live up to my full potential. I have no hate or
anger towards anyone, save the members of our society who's ignorace
cause them to blame their shortcomings on an unresponsible third party.
Your projecting the blame on others  makes them out  as a scapegoat in a
situation not applicable to them. Have you considered that members of
one race are not representative of the entire race. You are absolutely
right that some people are idiots, but their color has no bearing on
this sad fact.
Perhaps when individuals realize that it is up to them to change their
shortcomings and ignore the hate of others then they will truly succeed.
Derek, I urge you to search deeper in your self and the environment
which you will be exposed to until the end of your days to find the
correct answers to help you live a deeper and more fulfilling life. I
give you no pity, only these words to encourage you to trek on a more
peaceful journey. If others do you wrong see these actions as being
perpetrated by an individual, a devil if you will, not an entire group.
Every race, religion, subculture has their radicals who choose to live
life filled with hate, do not succumb to one of these roles. Instead be
the best that you can be without forcing yourself to do something that
will eventually hurt yourself and others. Peace my young friend, and do
unto others as you would have them do unto you. This is not religious
young brother... but merely the correct way.     peace to you, phil

".chad sponholz." wrote:

> important message from an old friend.
>
> -chad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Insipex
> To: mwraves@hyperreal.org ; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Cc: modular-list@wizoo.com
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>
> *WARNING, DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT
> TO BE EXPOSED TO THE SICKEST SIDE OF AMERICA*
>
> I wish this was a joke.. this makes me sad.. very sad..
> Please, no discussion of this on the modular list, WAY
> to off topic.. but I wanted to let somebody see this..
> it has .. well... damn.. this is sad..
>
> http://kids.stormfront.org/
>
> o0o[qiB.]o0o  :(...
>
> sorry for breaking up the fun times =)..
>
> [qiBbish disclaimer: if you think I am like this, support this
> or touch myself to this.. your one dumb fuck ;)  ]..
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ok, someone, i dont know who, stole my ben affleck lighter...i am very upset 
as i am sure ben is....please send him home, he is missed..
if you have any information on the whereabouts of ben, please contact me as 
soon as possible...
please help an innocent superstar find his way home...
**lora**

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In a message dated 9/7/99 12:00:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
applesauce909@hotmail.com writes:

<< ok, someone, i dont know who, stole my ben affleck lighter...i am very 
upset 
 as i am sure ben is....please send him home, he is missed..
 if you have any information on the whereabouts of ben, please contact me as 
 soon as possible...
 please help an innocent superstar find his way home...
 **lora**
  >>

This is soooo unfair...that lighter was meant for me to steal...I had a 
little spot all ready to display it at. Please return it so that I'll be able 
to steal it at a later date.

Shawne

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1.  barada
2. funk d'void
3. doormouse
4. mark verbos
5. woody mc bride with live drummer

pa's

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"I'll bet if you try really hard, you can't think of anything" - me
"HnghGNGhg....nope" - tres
"I never realised there were so many weeds here" - Lance on Monday morning
"You talk funny" - Lora to Misha
"What are you on?" "Nothing" "Why not?!!" - some random person i never met
to Misha
"Why are you acting so funny...what did you take?" "Heat" "What kinda drug
is that?" "The kind you're standing under" <envision confused raver walking
away from me wondering what kinda drug I'm talking about (the sun, people)>
"Have a wonderful night guys!!" - Said by the girl who just got done having
sex in the woods. You guys took too long...I was having withdrawals from my
maglite(whihc i was kind enough to lend them, since i had no idea what they
were gonna do)...next time, take your trash out with you (the towel) and may
I suggest bug spray? Maybe some poison ivy block? you know it was THICK on
the ground where you guys laid at, right? (Bwahahahahahhah!!!)  For future
reference, tents work better.


and the repeatable quote from another weekend "You're not you"  this got
said to me this weekend at ID

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thought I'd announce my presense (I'm back after a long vacation)

as if any of you care

I had a blast this weekend.....the most fun I've had in over 2 years.

I really felt like I was with family this weekend. 

Just wish I would've met more of you!!

snipits to come

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just another friendly reminder...

Wednesday September 8th

PHONO

featuring the paper recordings north american tour...

ERIK RUG
(Dirty Jesus, Paper Recordings, Paris France)

MILES HOLLWAY
(Salt City Orchestra, Paper Recordings, Manchester UK)

SYNERGY
(SolidState, Milwaukee)

21+  9pm  Dish 235 south second street
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guess I should introduce myself, being new to the list and all. I've never
actually gotten myself to a rave, but that will change now that I'm in
college. I'm a big fan of the Ozric Tentacles if anybody on here knows who
they are, also listen to classic rock and metal, as well as various types
of electronic music (I'm a big fan of Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV). well,
nice to meet you all, hope to see you around bloomington or indy.

--------------------------------
Donald Dresser
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Where can i get it wendy!!!!!
tell me now!!!!!

    -the logo i sport is the face of the monkey
    -bill
    - smooveb@asapnet.net

ps- sorry  about sunday, i was dead to the world, and didn't even hear you
ringing my bell
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> My friend came over last night with ABRAND SPANKING NEW WESLEY ALBUM




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Well I am very happy to see that ID had a great turnout. It's also good
that so many mw-geeks attended so we should be expecting like 100
reviews on this list that will pretty much say the same goddamn thing
=) j/k
Honestly, I kinda knew that ID wouldn't suck before I even went there.
To say that I wanted to go and was looking forward to it would be
understatement of the year. I definitely had a great time despite
spinning for 2.5 people (gip counts as .5) :) After having heard so
much about how disorganized big outdoor events can be, it was a very
nice surprise to see that Jason and JJ really had it together even on
friday afternoon when  people started showing up. I was pleasantly
surprised when Angels read the rules and told me other things about the
party as soon as I pulled into the gate. From then on it seemed great
:) Thanks to all of you people who made this event possible - it makes
going to parties worthwhile after seeing how many people in the scene
actually give a shit about it. Now on with my review, and actually I
just want to concentrate on a few items:

1. Lora talks EXTREMELY funny
2. It's not a real party without linoleum and midgets
3. Dust sucks
4. EconoLodge in Mt. Vernon, IL rules
5. Lora talks funnier than shit....it must be all the Applesauce in her
mouth (or other locations)
6. Boobs
7. Ass
8. Second stage in my opinion was set up in a better location than the
main stage - nice and secluded. Also stomping on the gravel vs.
stomping on the grass has it's weak points ;) In addition, I thought
that even though the second sound system was smaller and not as loud as
the main one - it sounded better. Intelligent lighting kinda lost it's
effect because you couldn't see the beams cuz the smoke doesn't stay in
open areas :) but the laser totally kicked my ass. I could sit for
hours behind the main stage and look at different shapes that were
projected on the trees. And I don't even do acid :)
9. The parades with firebreathers rocked...especially on sunday night
with the drummers. The mw-raves summit was interesting as well as the
discussion with promoters hosted by Tammy G. Overall it's nice to see
that the whole ID concept was approached not just as a party, but
rather a learning experience for everybody - and it wasn't just done on
paper to sound all badass. 
10. Veggie wraps rock, but I like my fucking steak :)
11. DJ's I really enjoyed - Matt Bandy, VHS or Beta (not dj's but still
- very interesting concept and very good music; these guys should be
booked more), Shiva (OMG she kicked my ass), Derek Playstation (all 3
times, but the last set in the Drop Bass was the best i think), Dante
(simply fucking amazing) and last but not least......
myself....just kidding =) Richie Hawtin. I thought to myself "this guy
will spin some nice tweaky minimal techno so i'll just sit here and
chill". RIGHT! Fucker came on and just KILLED everybody with the hard
shit. And you would think - in 5 hours you can get tired of tweaking
the living bejesus out of 909 and fx processor. HELL NO! He was like a
fucking robot - barely moving, not showing any emotions on his face,
just standing there and tweaking the fuck out of his music. Simple
amazing. I am going to offer him my ass in exchange for a couple mix
tapes...you think that'll work? Anyway...thanks to Dica for taking a
closeup pic of Richie and flipping off some guy on the stage =) I will
post the picture on my site (that is if it comes out well). 
12. Pixie and Tres look cute together in same t-shirts, but Tres looks
kinda cuter :)
13. I missed Dan Efex' set cuz I couldn't stay up that late. However
the goa stuff on Saturday night I couldn't really get into. The kind of
stuff that they played needed to be sped up and played along some acid
trance/techno and some progressive - then it woulda sounded a LOT
better =)
14. Got Ass?
15. Did I mention that Lora talks funny as all hell? I should maybe
teach her how to speak proper english. :)

Anyway....again thanks to all of you who came out. I had a great time
and was very happy to see so many mw-ravers, in particular pixie, tres,
s00zi, gip, lora, lauryn, siezer, chrise, doris, bekka, spree and his
midget show (thanks for 1000 tapes btw) and all others who I might have
forgotten to mention.

See ya at ID-2 (or 3? or Dreamfest 3 and IO 5?)
Misha :)
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>music - ok, it was ritchie & crew.  i feel that speaks for itself.
>coolest part of the evening:  clark warner, kooky scientist, and
>acquaviva played some really chill, downbeat music.

acquaviva's set was really really good IMO, even tho i only caught... what
the last hour and a half of it? :P  missed out on clark warner
unfortunately... as for the kooky scientist, i've never been a huge fan of
his music so that one hour was one i spent chilling outside before the
rain got annoying.

which reminds me... i don't quite understand why phryl decided to stamp
everyone's hands after they paid and then not allow re-entry.  it makes
ZERO sense to me!  for one thing, there was no line at the door, and
people were getting in really really quickly.  security was hella chill,
but what was fucked up was when we asked one of the promoters if we could
get back in with a hand stamped and he said "sure, no problem".  then when
we tried to get back in, the door guy wouldn't let us.  WTF?!?!

i guess it's a good thing the venue wasn't all that well secured.  we
snuck around the back of the building and walked right back in :P

>without warning,
>ritchie slides in and drops this POW POW POW POW kick, hops up on the
>table, and pounds his fists in the air with the beat.  the expression on
>his face was SAVAGE.

oh yes it was!  hehe i remember that!  first hour of his set was kinda
hard tech-trancecore-ish or something...

2 coolest ritchie moments of the night:
-when he dropped a record and physically spun it faster than it was
playing and brought it in, then slowed it back down and you heard the
coolest fxt
-he dropped a record and couldn't quite beatmatch it when he wanted to...
apparently he looked down at the record, flipped it off with both fingers
and mouthed out a clear "FUCK YOU!"  bwahahahahaha!!!

>lights - this was ritchie's night, so the lights and decorations were all
>set to his specifications (or so i was told).  not real extravagant but i
>don't like overkill on the lights.

which makes me ask why they didn't want any glowsticks in the building...
"it will kill our lighting effects".  blah, whatever.

>venue - mad decorations.  very important to the mood

and hot as all bloody hell!  jesus i was standing in front watching him
play and was drenched in sweat.   icky...

i guess the big adventure was held in the same space so there were still
a couple of fuzzy monkeys sitting up in the banners :P

>hotty factor - girls 3.5/10 (broken hoes man).

werd.  raver trash.  eww.

>ok, my review sucks, but i don't think anyone else went so i tried!

ditto.

it was a pretty small party i guess... maybe 1000-2000 ppl.. only 5
porta-potties.  ick.

oh yeah, and speaking of people at the party, i saw the guy and girl who
sold me my first roll... *sigh*... the memories...

*poof*
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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:57:52 EDT
From: Sixtybus@aol.com

>Heya..
>Some friends and I are thinking about heading down to Omaha for PLUR 99.  
>Does anyone know how long it takes to get to St Louis from there or where 
>somewhere cheap would be to stay?
>OOOH!  and could I get a line up too?  I seem to have misplaced my flyer.
>Is ADB gonna be there?  =)

didn't this party happen in january?

or is there a new one happening soon that i don't know about....

blah.

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Well I missed ID, but fuckit I had one of the greatest fookin times of
my life up in Chicago.
Some might say, why the fuck would you drive 4 hours up to Chicago,
when you can go to one of the largest parties this year thats only like
an hour and a half away?  To those piss ants I say "beacause DJ fucking
Bailey is playing you moron!"
This was some of the darkest most sick ass Drum n Bass I have heard in
a long time (since Ed Rush i think).
I got there around 10 or 11, the directions were a bit fucked up for
those that haven't been to Chicago that much.  Got in the space to a
kick ass wearhouse (whith a cargo elevator) and came into the main
room, where i think it was Kevin Ryn? was playing, not bad, alot of
tracks i have and like to play, seems like he was having some problems
with the sound though, 
then snuggles went on, not much to say, a bit boring for me.
then jj jellybean, ring a ding schools in folks.  Some great 92,93
breakbeat hardcore and jungle.  Gotta get him down here sometime for an
old school set.
finnally the one the only Bailey comes on, all I have to say is holly
fucking shit!  He fucking tore it up!  And I gotta get ahold of that
AK1200/(i forgot the other producer) porn style track, anything with
that sick of a bass line and a sample that says "fuck me harder, make
me barf" has got to find its way into my crate!  Bailey is like one of
my absolute favorite junglists and seeing him live was definitely not
disapointing.
next was one of the kats from Usual Suspects, and man that dude ripped
the crowd a new asshole, playing more sick sick sick shit, once you
feel like your gonna collapse and ya just gotta sit yur ass down,
another sick synth line breakdown kicks in and your sayin to yourself
"MAN FUNK DAT".
and as we were leaving Casper was rippin it up as well.

Big up to everyone in da place dancing there asses off
Big fuck you to the kids that shove there way to the front so they can
stand there with there arms crossed and try to look hard, you all are
pussy shitz!
Big up to MC Rage who kept the crowd jumpin, litterally.
Big up to Kid E one of the best stateside MC's that i've heard, no
phoney Jamaican accent here.
And Definite Big Up to all that were involved in throwing this event.
A party the way it should be, with the jungle in the main room, and
that pussy 4 to tha floor shit shoved to tha side!
Chicago you fookin rawk!
PEACE!!@@!!!!!!!
JON GOTTI

p.s. Tim hit me back as soon as you find out!

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Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> writes:
>>came into the main
>>room, where i think it was Kevin Ryn? was playing, not bad, alot of
>>tracks i have and like to play, seems like he was having some problems

Don't tell me dj Ry-n's first name is Kevin... :-)

(Either that or was so drunk this weekend I
don't even *remember* spinning in Chicago...)

Well, the first time I heard Ryn spin (assuming
he's whom you're talking about) I thought the
mc announced was "mc Black Guy"...!?

It took a few months before I figured out "Blackeye."

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Yes, and it's also happening in November as Plur 99: "Hugz and Kisses"

dlux

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, |p.r.a.s.a.d| wrote:

> 
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 02:57:52 EDT
> From: Sixtybus@aol.com
> 
> >Heya..
> >Some friends and I are thinking about heading down to Omaha for PLUR 99.  
> >Does anyone know how long it takes to get to St Louis from there or where 
> >somewhere cheap would be to stay?
> >OOOH!  and could I get a line up too?  I seem to have misplaced my flyer.
> >Is ADB gonna be there?  =)
> 
> didn't this party happen in january?
> 
> or is there a new one happening soon that i don't know about....
> 
> blah.
> 
> -prasad
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>15. Did I mention that Lora talks funny as all hell? I should maybe
>teach her how to speak proper english. :)

shut up you fukkin commie bastard...blah! =)

>Anyway....again thanks to all of you who came out. I had a great time
>and was very happy to see so many mw-ravers, in particular pixie, tres,
>s00zi, gip, lora, lauryn, siezer, chrise, doris, bekka, spree and his
>midget show (thanks for 1000 tapes btw) and all others who I might have
>forgotten to mention.

you forgot to mention ben....hes missing you know...
**lora**

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ID

REVIEW

IN SHORT

1) I don't need directions, I was there last year.
2) Grateful Dead for the last hour of the drive there (got me in the 
right mood)
3) The ghetto ass mw-raves sign
4) MC Spree?
5) I think my ears are bleeding
6) tore out my muffler trying to cross the ditch to the mw-raves site
7) wired it back up with something like coat hanger wire
8) was gonna eat out a girl in broad daylight, but she backed out at 
the last minute
9) Ben Affleck lit my cigerette
10) free Sobe
11) Scrotum
12) Fur Elise at the Drop Bass tent
13) WTF do you mean you don't serve meat?!?!
14) 10 soft, 10 hard, 10 bean, NBG and Mex Pizza
15) POOPSTAINS!!!!
16) Road Rules? Are you fuckin kidding?
17) aight, fuck you....I didn't want to anyway
18) Is your name Doris?
19) Do you have any drugs? THEN EAT 'EM!!!!!!
20) did you pee on that tent or just in their water jug?
21) have sex with ricA....only $10
22) hey, you got a lizard on your shoulder
23) got ass?
24) that clown has nipple rings
25) get a picture of that clown gettin me in the ass
26) holy shit, it IS backwards!!!!
27) dica: "d00d, I'm raving"
28) dica flippin off the stage guy
29) ya know, it would be cool if someone had sex with me right here in 
the middle of this "hay ride"
30) after that taco bell, it's gonna be decks, ricA's effects and a 909
31) it ain't a party w/o linoleum y0!

shouts:
dica			poopstains the dog
gavin			angie
s00zi			storm
doris			cha cha cha
nitro			acid pimp
dj amtrak		bbc
dj tranerek		kg
chris			robin
spahn			j-sun



best time I've had in 2-3 years

---		ricA		---

"fuck you and the PLUR you rode in on"


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Donald Dresser <ddresser@indiana.edu> writes:
>>as well as various types
>>of electronic music (I'm a big fan of Throbbing Gristle/Psychic TV).

This is the one thing raves really need:

Genesis P-Orridge on stage self-lacerating,
masturbating, drinking urine, fucking Cosey
during her trumpet solos, drawing blood
from his scrotum with a syringe and
re-injecting it in his arm, all the while
producing live noise with instruments he
couldn't play in the Da-Da-fuck-history-and-
make-art vein at the Death Factory right
next door to a 17th century mass grave
filled with thousands of corpses victimized
by the Bubonic Plague.

And y'all thought Doormouse was hardcore.

(And y'all thought Marylin Manson was
industrial. :P)

BTW, I'm also a fan of TG/PTV/CTI/Gen/
Cosey/Christopherson and all the wonders
and offshoots of the Industrial label.  Coil is
one of my all-time favorite electronic groups.

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> self-lacerating, masturbating, drinking urine, fucking Cosey
> during her trumpet solos, drawing blood from his scrotum with a syringe
and
> re-injecting it in his arm, all the while producing live noise

sounds like dinner with my parents...

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>8) was gonna eat out a girl in broad daylight, but she backed out at
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bahahaha...don't encourage hime...


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From: Kevin M. Ryan <kevinryan@students.wisc.edu>

> Genesis P-Orridge on stage self-lacerating,
> masturbating, drinking urine, fucking Cosey
> during her trumpet solos, drawing blood
> from his scrotum with a syringe and
> re-injecting it in his arm, all the while

> And y'all thought Doormouse was hardcore.

thats why stuntrock is by dan's side.....mmmmmmmMMMeat!!!!!!!!


-bill




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>9) Ben Affleck lit my cigerette

i bet you took ben....you must die.....
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*puts hand on heart*
beautiful!

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Got there around noon on friday, spent like two hours trying to find where 
pixie camped until i ran into mickey d and he showed me the way.  Finally 
got to camp after walking 15 miles :P and saw that we were camped on the 
other side of the lake, hooray for seclusion!

met more people from louisville than i ever imagined!  even met a kid that 
lives like two blocks away from me!!  met a lot of really cool people, 
especially doogie that lives there, he has to be one of the most intune 
people i've ever met, told me, pixie, and sean stories for hours.  got to go 
canoeing.  still trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with the other 
side of the lake.  i hope karl's ok after take a dip in that shit.

highlights:

RICHIE HAWTIN!!!!!!!!!  it was like he took everything he knew and shoved it 
right up my ass!!!

dante and his dance workshop... that was one of the most amazing experiences 
i've ever had.

derek and jason with their woodchuck to help me come down off that richie 
high monday morning.  :)

dan, lance, stan, bob, and awol fuckin' crackin' my shit up monday morning.

dislikes:

just the fuckin gnats that were hooked on citronella, nothing would kill 
those fuckers, except when they flew into the fire.  :)

quotes:

"Huughghghg.... no" - me

"What star is that?" - awol "I don't know, but tommorow it'll be closer!" - 
lance

"We had momentary loss of vehicle control." - daivd hollands after almost 
killing laura.  :)


thanks to jason and jj for making my weekend one of the most enjoyable in my 
life!


tres
... jaw still on the floor from richie's set

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In a message dated 9/7/99, 10:59:44 AM, arnoarr4@milwpc.com writes:
<<> song's called suck a crazy sheep dog's dick
> suck a crazy sheep dog's dick
>
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!!!!!!!
>
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!
> SUCK A CRAAAAZY SHEEP DOG'S DICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> nnothing

ummmm.

what are we forgetting at the end there?

hmmmmmm?

tell em phil.
>>

Rock ova London, Rock ova Toledo
Potatoes are good



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Well, too bad I can't be two places at once, 'cause it's
the only way this weekend could have been better for
me.  Glad to hear that ID was a blast, it's not like I
expected anything less, but other commitments kept
me from being there, so here's a review of 2 other
events last weekend...

Madlove '99 - Madison, WI

An awesome event for only $10 ?
Yes, it is possible (with a little help from our friends).

A smaller event, featuring mostly locals, yet when
you have locals like Madison does, who needs
superstars ?

This event was at the Lighthouse Theatre, but
the venue was refreshed by a completely new
light setup, about 4 times the sound that
is usually featured and some new decorations.
It just goes to show that it's not the venue, but
the creativity of the promoters that make a party
unique.  The musical highlight of the night would
have to be Adeptus (quickly rising to the status of
the midwest's best Trance DJ), although everyone
performed well.

Venue: 8/10 (decor contributed a lot)
Sound: 7/10 (Clear, but not as loud as possible)
Lighting: 10/10 (Yeah, I'm biased, but it's the best setup I've done in this venue)
Visuals: 4/10 (technical difficulties prevented the intended effect)
Price: 10/10 (Can't go wrong for $10)
Music/Vibe: 9/10 (Solid performances / Very energetic crowd)

Overall: 96/100 - Grade: A



Part 2: Labor - Madison, WI

Labor was "Absolute Zero's" second event, and hopefully
not their last.  Although they had some venue troubles that
landed them in the Lighthouse Theatre too, things worked out
rather well (it sure saved me the trouble of having to go
without sleep to re-setup all the lighting =).    

Although a solid event, being in the same venue 2 nights
in a row kinda makes it feel like a club, but when you have
music like this, you could be in someone's garage and it
wouldn't matter.  All the music was excellent, but one
performance made the night exceptional - Kektex.
For those of you who don't know, Kektex is an Acid
Techno group consisting of D.A.V.E. the Drummer and
Lawrie Immerson.  This was hands down THE best live
PA I have ever experienced.  Starting out banging, and
then progressively getting more and more intense...and, just
when you thought it was at it's peak, it REALLY blew up !
Anyone who thinks the 303 doesn't have any creative
uses left hasn't heard these guys.  Long live the 303 !
Later, D.A.V.E. the Drummer went on to play a slamming set
of Progressive Techno in the second room which briefly
moved to the main room to close out the night in
proper fashion.

Venue: 6/10 (decorations were nice, but same venue 2 nights in a row doesn't help much)
Sound: 8/10 (Loud and clear)
Lighting: 8/10 (Same setup as Friday minus the argon laser)
Visuals: 8/10 (technical difficulties were solved...looked nice)
Price: 7/10 ($20 is a little high, but Kektex made it worth it)
Music/Vibe: 8/10 (Not as many people, but Kektex was like natural Ecstasy for them)

Overall: 90/100 - Grade: B



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i forgot to add; major props to the brandon and all the other dome builders, 
that was my favorite place to be other than my camp!


tres
... hammocks rock!

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If a party says no glass bottles allowed...DON'T BRING GLASS BOTTLES 
IN!!!!!!!!!  It's that simple...then people don't end up running over them 
at the sight and get a flat doing 80 on I-70...isn't that right ricA...

R=Respect...
dylan
word to the word word

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Hi everyone, I just wanted to say thanks to JJ & Jason for putting on ID, it 
was amazing! I had a blast! Even though someone forced Matt and I offstage 
20 minutes early in a really shady, dispicable way, I still had a lot of 
fun! :-) It was soooooo awsome seeing all of you there (Doris, Suzi, James, 
Toby, Glen, Pixie, Misha, Gip, Tracy, and the list goes on and on :-))

I also had a blast on Saturday at New Begening in Omaha, thanks to Aaron for 
bringing me out :-) It was awesome hanging out with the crew up there (never 
can get enough of .com in an IHOP hat and fairy wings...) :-) Hope to see 
you all again soon! :-)

Thanks everyone! :-)

-Craig/Spree
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http://www.kickinbeats.com

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>
>
>     Now that I think of it this really bothered me about the music. Richie
> blow up everyone minds, and after his set a ambent dj came on. He was
good,
> but every one still wanted to dance. All the people from Richie's set
stayed
> for about 10-15 minutes, then almost every one left.


ok, this reminds me of something that i've had a problem with for awhile.
now, most parties have an early-morning/downtempo/chill dj to kind of wind
people down.  i can wind down at home all by myself.  my theory is if you're
hardcore enough to still be around at 8-9 AM you NEED something bumpin' to
keep you awake.  i always seem to go home thinking that i still had like 30
mins of dancing left in me, but the dj put me to sleep.  so, do most people
like the chill-morning sets?  call me curious...

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this saturday...sept 11 go to worlds of fun in KC, MO...where phat pants, 
candy jewelry, anything that might make you recognizeable to others and each 
other...this event is to promote our scene to the public in a POSITIVE way 
so please think before doing stupid stuff... stupid stuff may include but is 
not limited to...getting fucked up, harrassing people, shoplifting, tagging, 
etc.....so...lets go out and have worlds of fun at Worlds of Fun...
For more information on the park and directions on how to get there go to 
http://www.worldsoffun.com

I'm not sure but I think the park is running some kind of discount price if 
you bring in a barques root beer can......I'm not POSITIVE abaout this so I 
would call the park first if I were you....the # should be on the home 
page....

later
dylan

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well, when it depends.....I think like on sat or sun morning of this party I 
thin k that ambiant would have been fine cause peaople knew they need sleep 
during the day for the next night....but on the last morning when I know 
this is the lastchanche to dance.....I'm all about something harder....house 
is the perfect morning music....

dylan

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>>do most people
>>like the chill-morning sets?


Hellz no!!!  Keep me bouncing out the door.

PJ

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> >  Now that I think of it this really bothered me about the music. Richie
> > blow up everyone minds, and after his set a ambent dj came on. He was
> > good, but every one still wanted to dance. All the people from Richie's
set
> > stayed for about 10-15 minutes, then almost every one left.
>
>
> ok, this reminds me of something that i've had a problem with for awhile.
> now, most parties have an early-morning/downtempo/chill dj to kind of wind
> people down.  i can wind down at home all by myself.  my theory is if
you're
> hardcore enough to still be around at 8-9 AM you NEED something bumpin' to
> keep you awake.  i always seem to go home thinking that i still had like
30
> mins of dancing left in me, but the dj put me to sleep.  so, do most
people
> like the chill-morning sets?  call me curious...

hey curious...

I love downtempo/chill/ambient sets in the morning, but at ID, there was a
place for them...it was called the chill dome...and it was extremely
frustrating to want to chill, but the dome was playing super pumpin house or
jungle... (deep house would have been fine) or to want to dance still, but
to have super snoozin downtempo on the main stage. Clark Warner rocks, don't
get me wrong, but that's not what I expected after having Richie work me
like a freeking puppet...the only way I can really best describe it is that
in a weird way, it was like a speed crash, where you are super -pumped up
for a long time and then suddenly, *bAM* nothing... those are just my
opinions though...and i definitely think that chill-out rooms need to return
and be adhered to...the main room or stage really isn't the place for it.

<missing crayons and coloring books and big rolls of art paper and stickers
and candy and goofy little toys blacklites and ambient music> <--ingredients
of a chill out room...for some reason i feel the need to clarify
pixie


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testing my email.. blah blah
new puter

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to top off the mother funker of bad weeks, i just went to cynesthesia and 
bought a supposed "disco house" mix tape.... sounded all good when i had her 
play it out and stufff.... but what else is on this tape is beyond me!!! some 
horrid mix of big band and POP music? dan X surely outdone himself. yea does 
anybody wanna buy a COOL NEW mixtape from Dan X and Toby Tyler. its got sum 
mad phunk*E gruves on it. its almost as cool as skool! 

"part of the un-underground"
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i want one.
hook me up.

nononono, not a groovebox. the things i will be getting need not be groove
approved {tm}.

although, two guys at ID did some things i didn't think possible at the DBN tent
with a mc303 and a mc505.
pretty nice, considering what they were using.   and pretty nice, even if you
don't consider it.

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In a message dated 9/7/99 11:30:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
kevinryan@students.wisc.edu writes:

<< Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> writes:
 >>came into the main
 >>room, where i think it was Kevin Ryn? was playing, not bad, alot of
 >>tracks i have and like to play, seems like he was having some problems
 
 Don't tell me dj Ry-n's first name is Kevin... :-)
 
 (Either that or was so drunk this weekend I
 don't even *remember* spinning in Chicago...)
 
 Well, the first time I heard Ryn spin (assuming
 he's whom you're talking about) I thought the
 mc announced was "mc Black Guy"...!?
 
 It took a few months before I figured out "Blackeye." >>

the dj in question is

kevin cunningham from cleveland/chicago...

entro

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I HAVE A TB303 IN EXCELLENT CONDITION I WILL SELL

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>
>i want one.
>hook me up.
>
>nononono, not a groovebox. the things i will be getting need not be groove
>approved {tm}.
>
>although, two guys at ID did some things i didn't think possible at the DBN
tent
>with a mc303 and a mc505.
>pretty nice, considering what they were using.   and pretty nice, even if
you
>don't consider it.
>
>chad
>
>
>
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"Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com> writes:
>>Madlove '99 - Madison, WI
>>
>>An awesome event for only $10 ?
>>Yes, it is possible (with a little help from our friends).

Only $8 with a canned food!  (Which is a reasonable
but not spectacular price.)

>>The musical highlight of the night would
>>have to be Adeptus (quickly rising to the status of
>>the midwest's best Trance DJ), although everyone
>>performed well.

Yeah... Since when is --ADEPTUS-- a superstar?
He played some excellent progressive tracks and
certainly rocked the main room.  Good job Steve.

I was rocked hardest by --TECHNO B-- from LA.
I hadn't heard of this guy before, and was just
expecting lameness, but then he clocks in at about
155 bpms & gets me all excited.  (I'm not good at
judging bpms, but it was pretty fast, not like
gabber fast but deff not dragging like Detroit.)
So about ten of us jumped around like fools in front
of the speakers until 5am.  After that I left.

--CROWD-- The place wasn't too crowded, and
there seemed to be a lot of younger peeps.  (No
doubt because of ID's demographic pull.)  But it
was well ventilated--which was nice--and there
was lots of room to jump around.  I suppose it's a good
thing that a lot of newbies are getting involved,
diversification is healthy and sustaining.

>>Glad to hear that ID was a blast, it's not like I
>>expected anything less, but other commitments kept
>>me from being there

Yeah, I had to work on Saturday so no ID for me...
At least that's what I thought until I arrived at work
Saturday morning without a wink of sleep only to
discover the Law Library was closed for my shift due
to Labor Day Weekend.  :/

--SHOUTS-- out to those 2 dudes that spontaneously
drove Heather & me to the party from the bus station
at midnight (where/whoever you are); to Sarah for the
cotton candy hook-up; and to Katie for driving all of us
wheel-less losers home in the morning.

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this is one of the best CDs i've bought in a while..
mostly jazzy/funky drum and bass.. some more jump-up-ish stuff near the end, 
plus a lil bit of dark stuff.  Plus, a cool ass 'prince' outro.  If you like 
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Hello Everyone!

Gary G - dj Legal Alien here.

After weeks of hard work, planning and slaving at the
computer (thanks Adam S. for the artwork), I'm finally
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This is a full length continuous mix (73min).  Jazzy
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You can check out two 10 minute samples of the mix at
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These samples are in Real Audio G2 format.

Please email me if you wish to receive a copy.  I'm
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The same site also has all my booking info, as well as
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If you're local to Detroit, Please come out on
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Well for all you kids on mw or KC AND on STL-raves....you may be wondering
where all the posts are?

A little birdie from egroup told me that STL-raves is temporary to
permanently closed down due to in part but not solely to the antics of one
Mr. Ian Hard.  It seems the egroups frowns on soliciting  sex to 15 and 17
year olds by a 30 plus man and the emails about selling drugs probably did
not help as well and the hate mail /death threats might have been a minor
infraction of the egroups policies.

So if you know anyone on the STL-Raves list that is NOT on mw, MO, or
KC-raves...pass it along that egroups is down and HOPEFULLY will be back up
soon.

I will keep you posted...but when its back on you will know.....

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I WONT BUY

On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Mike @ Full Spectrum wrote:

> I HAVE A TB303 IN EXCELLENT CONDITION I WILL SELL
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad_Sponholz@firstar.com <Chad_Sponholz@firstar.com>
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 5:59 PM
> Subject: [mw] speaking of the 303
> 
> 
> >
> >i want one.
> >hook me up.
> >
> >nononono, not a groovebox. the things i will be getting need not be groove
> >approved {tm}.
> >
> >although, two guys at ID did some things i didn't think possible at the DBN
> tent
> >with a mc303 and a mc505.
> >pretty nice, considering what they were using.   and pretty nice, even if
> you
> >don't consider it.
> >
> >chad
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Some photos we took at ID are posted here
http://www.louipimps.com/events/id.htm

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>WASHINGTON - by R. S. OAKS  The National Office of Drug Control Policy
>and a
>cosortium of major prison builders today announced a partnership to
>install 1200
>new high-tech vending machines in strategic high crime areas within the
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

I gotta say something about this.

first, can you post a URL or something?

second, what a bunch of baloney (bologna)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 00:37:26 1999
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Speaking of ID pics, I should be getting mine back in a couple days (I'm
cheap, what can I say?)  There's going to be a lot of black and whites,
which should be interesting....I'm going to try to get them scanned to put
up on the web, but alas I have no webpage and really have no desire to spend
the time setting one up right now.  So if anyone is interested in putting
them up on their page, I could email them to you or something.  Hit me
privately please.

Koog ~~ Tracy
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> CONTACT LINES= THE AMAZI'N FULCRUM LEAGUE
> D.A.S. PHONE SYSTEM. 1-(608)-242-8671" [sic]

tim (evolution) you might want to try the same above number to get the
lowdown.  even more strange about this party was the fact that this guy
called me a bout tj richters info and he said he was calling from
madison about a party he was doing in madison, but the caller id said
212-611-5317?...a new york number.  i asked him about this and he said
he's in madison?  i wrote the number down becasue i wanted to call it
back, but didn't.  tim you might want to try that number also.  i
suppose it could have been a cel phone number, but now he's saying he's
from the south and not the east coast.  soemthing is very strange. 
doesn't really matter though, $25 is just insane for this line-up.

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In a message dated 9/7/99 1:20:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dj_tsar@yahoo.com 
writes:

<< 12. Pixie and Tres look cute together in same t-shirts, but Tres looks
 kinda cuter :) >>

Tres!!!  Nooooooooo....are you two going to be that mid40 couple walking 
through the mall with the same sweatsuits on while powerwalking past all the 
kids?????

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 01:28:58 1999
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Baby walk yo ass down to atomic and pick it up (they are the only ones in 
milwaukee who are hard enough to carry his shit!)

and dont worry about sunday i already knew you that you are a punk ass bitch 
;P

whendee

p.s. there was atypo in my origanal letter jello's essay is 2 pages not 32


>
>Where can i get it wendy!!!!!
>tell me now!!!!!
>
>     -the logo i sport is the face of the monkey
>     -bill
>     - smooveb@asapnet.net
>
>ps- sorry  about sunday, i was dead to the world, and didn't even hear you
>ringing my bell
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minimal state - saturday, september 11, 1999 - indianapolis, indiana

Scarab Records and Muzique Boutique are proud to present minimal state

Featuring:

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midnight - 6am
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Information:

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Scarab Upcoming Events:
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Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
> The mw-raves summit was interesting as well as the
> discussion with promoters hosted by Tammy G. 

Just wanted to clear up any confusion. The rave summit was hosted by the
Kansas City Promoters Association. I guess we should have told everyone
a bit about us! But, if you are referring to the girl who was on the
mike alot during the summit, that would be me. :-) Tammy G. hosted the
workshop on promoting and she made some comments during the rave summit. 

> Overall it's nice to see
> that the whole ID concept was approached not just as a party, but
> rather a learning experience for everybody - and it wasn't just done on
> paper to sound all badass.

Yes, I have to second that! It made a big difference! 

btw, nice to meet ya', Misha!

-- Robin 
Kansas City
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y'all forgive me fer quotin ALL a phil's shit, but m'man is SOOOOOOOO
right on time, i wanted to make sure everyone gottit.

my only discrepancy is dat i _do_ pity this kid, cause i've been in his
shoes an way beyond. i truly feel sorry fer people who think dat way,
cause i know how shitty it is first hand. but phil is so right about
showin love to oppose hate. ain't no otha way.

toleratin the intolerant (as beings, not idealology) is by far the
hardest part of tolerance, but that's the only way to truly demonstrate
that love will, eventulally, conquer all.

peace,
-aRNO

Phillip M Pompa wrote:
> 
> Chad and ya'll, ghandi's anniversary is coming soon. Many of you may
> think this is bullshit. I too am full of hate on occasion, I can dig a
> meat show like Trunk can, but this little one is phuct up, and my guess
> is his environment perpetuates this. This kid had a bad encounter with
> some mothafuckas who have already begun to shape his world attitudes. It
> pisses me off, but the only way to get to them is by being so nice it
> makes them sick. If they become angry it fuels the fire but again
> becomes out of sight out of mind. To really phuc with their minds give
> them something to think about that will burn at their soul until they go
> either one way or the other. If this page pisses you off, overload his
> account with mail telling him what you think, not instigating his
> negative actions. If you all are really about PLUR, or the attitude
> behind it hook this little brother up with much mail. I would never
> scream plur to any of you, but if ya'll were neked, i would give you a
> shirt. Actions speak much louder than words. Specially if i just came up
> to ya and kicked ya in yer ass, which is basically what i have done to
> yound derek. Following is the mail i sent to our little racist. If you
> think i am right on then send him mail to and then post the letters to
> the list. Word to all of yo mama, and no dicks in the mashed potatoes
> please, it gives them a natty aftataste.
>           peace, pmp.
> 
> I am a Mexican-American and I couldn't agree more with you. Until I am
> removed from the members of various races that attempt to oppress me I
> will never be able to live up to my full potential. I have no hate or
> anger towards anyone, save the members of our society who's ignorace
> cause them to blame their shortcomings on an unresponsible third party.
> Your projecting the blame on others  makes them out  as a scapegoat in a
> situation not applicable to them. Have you considered that members of
> one race are not representative of the entire race. You are absolutely
> right that some people are idiots, but their color has no bearing on
> this sad fact.
> Perhaps when individuals realize that it is up to them to change their
> shortcomings and ignore the hate of others then they will truly succeed.
> Derek, I urge you to search deeper in your self and the environment
> which you will be exposed to until the end of your days to find the
> correct answers to help you live a deeper and more fulfilling life. I
> give you no pity, only these words to encourage you to trek on a more
> peaceful journey. If others do you wrong see these actions as being
> perpetrated by an individual, a devil if you will, not an entire group.
> Every race, religion, subculture has their radicals who choose to live
> life filled with hate, do not succumb to one of these roles. Instead be
> the best that you can be without forcing yourself to do something that
> will eventually hurt yourself and others. Peace my young friend, and do
> unto others as you would have them do unto you. This is not religious
> young brother... but merely the correct way.     peace to you, phil
> 
> ".chad sponholz." wrote:
> 
> > important message from an old friend.
> >
> > -chad
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Insipex
> > To: mwraves@hyperreal.org ; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > Cc: modular-list@wizoo.com
> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:05 AM
> > Subject: [way OFF] sad.. and sick.. very sick...
> >
> > *WARNING, DON'T READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT
> > TO BE EXPOSED TO THE SICKEST SIDE OF AMERICA*
> >
> > I wish this was a joke.. this makes me sad.. very sad..
> > Please, no discussion of this on the modular list, WAY
> > to off topic.. but I wanted to let somebody see this..
> > it has .. well... damn.. this is sad..
> >
> > http://kids.stormfront.org/
> >
> > o0o[qiB.]o0o  :(...
> >
> > sorry for breaking up the fun times =)..
> >
> > [qiBbish disclaimer: if you think I am like this, support this
> > or touch myself to this.. your one dumb fuck ;)  ]..
> >
> > -
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>From: "Angela Larson" <imaqt96@hotmail.com>
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>
>Are there any pictures from Turned On anywhere on the web?????
>Or from Mother Funker in Chicago??????
>Angela
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People asked for them...I got my lazy ass up and made a page 
(quickie) with some of the pics I took...some are pending (need to 
finish the roll and get it developed)

anyone interested go to:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7269/parties/party.html

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 05:06:54 1999
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I haven't seen any posts about it and was wondering how it
went.....

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--- "Kevin M. Ryan" <kevinryan@students.wisc.edu> wrote:

> Genesis P-Orridge on stage 

You can stop right there.
Half these kids are lost at this point.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 05:28:24 1999
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Listen, review, god dammit.

http://welcome.to/mobass.com
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 05:59:34 1999
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TRUNKalicious wrote:
> 
> Listen, review, god dammit.

whaddap wioddaz mptreez yo?!? like i said, me geddo lines won play RA
fer shit, (i _did_ eeeek out all ya trax, jus wif 10-20 sec.
re-buffewring pauses every 10-20 secz!) but i _can_ getme sum mp'z if i
lettit go all night...:]

bah! i jus went to yer site ta reprazent which o youse trax i liked
best, an it ain't showin em?!

i think it'was da first juan.

anyhouse, 
TRUNK:bangin-boomin-breakcore-metal shit. quite tasty IMHO yo.
i dig it. you should too.

fuckface.

love, 
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even being from the south, which is notoriously racist, i have never 
encountered such a thing as this site...i really find it hard to believe 
that the person who wrote all this is actually only 10 years old....but that 
could just be me being sheltered from this sort of thing growing up....i 
grew up with my mom always telling me everyone was equal NO MATTER WHAT, and 
my father telling me that some people were better than other people (my mom 
being the one i believed because she actually had a logical reason for her 
way of thinking, that being that god made everyone different from each other 
so we could all see what was good and unique in ourselves)
i guess it just goes to show that we need to be very careful what we say and 
do around our children, they are little sponges....this frightens me to no 
end and i really hope someone gets ahold of this kid before its too late...
point i took from the site: hate kills...
god im sad...this actually made me cry, esp. when i saw the pic of this 
little guy....
and i guess theres nothing we can do right? this little kid doesnt deserve 
or probably understand all the hate mail...btw, where are this guys parents?
**lora**

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> 
> > >  Now that I think of it this really bothered me about the music. Richie
> > > blow up everyone minds, and after his set a ambent dj came on. He was
> > > good, but every one still wanted to dance. All the people from Richie's
> set
> > > stayed for about 10-15 minutes, then almost every one left.

Well, if you left, then you missed out as Clark Warner's set was
beautiful! After about half-hour or so he worked in some very downtemp
but danceable beats. 

I am surprised at the close mindedness of those who made this comment! I
suppose you had no problem when, after 2 hours of solid ass-whippin',
Ritchie took his set down to such a minimal, trancey state that almost
everyone was standing around talking. This went on for a half-hour or 45
minutes. I was glad for the rest and I think Ritchie did that on purpose
because he could sense that we couldn't take any more "hard and fast."
But, alot of ppl left during this part only to miss the endof Ritchie's
set when he pounded it back up to "heart-attack" range once again! 

I thought Clark Warner's set was a perfect end to Ritchie, being in such
a stark contrast to the frenzied 909 beatz end of it. As Clark and
Ritchie are friends, I would not be surprised if Ritchie requested to be
followed up by Clark Warner. I don't know about you, but Ritchie's set
left me so physically drained that I was already sitting down just
before the end of Ritchie's set. I couldn't have danced another step!

I know what you mean though about not being (musically) dropped like a
hot potato out of the microwave, but I've never heard such moving
ambient or downtempo music as Clark played. Yes, I was definitely moved!
And, not having found the time to go down to the chill dome much all
weekend, I might not have ever been exposed to this beautiful stuff if
it hadn't been played on the main stage. 

If you stuck around and used the hour of Clark Warner's set to rest and
chat with friends, you were treated to a most funky and bumpin' set of
house, breaks and tribal from 6:30-8:00 played by Jordan from Fresno! I
never thought I would see the "dead" come back to life, as I did when
the first strains of that House music hit after Clark's last record! 

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Kevin M. Ryan wrote:
 
> somebody should post the minutes of this summit to the list...
> i'm really curious :)

Well, Sheesh! give us a couple days. Don't worry, we are definitely
planning on posting an account of the summit as soon as we recover. ;->

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When I wrote to this kid I told him that I didn't believe that he wrote his
intro himself.  The language is too polished for a 10 year old to have come
up with.  And I doubt his beliefs came to him of his own free will...more
than likely his parents are behind it.  I wished him the opportunity someday
to go out and experience people for himself instead of adopting his parents
beliefs.

PJ


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even being from the south, which is notoriously racist, i have never 
encountered such a thing as this site...i really find it hard to believe 
that the person who wrote all this is actually only 10 years old....but that

could just be me being sheltered from this sort of thing growing up....i 
grew up with my mom always telling me everyone was equal NO MATTER WHAT, and

my father telling me that some people were better than other people (my mom 
being the one i believed because she actually had a logical reason for her 
way of thinking, that being that god made everyone different from each other

so we could all see what was good and unique in ourselves)
i guess it just goes to show that we need to be very careful what we say and

do around our children, they are little sponges....this frightens me to no 
end and i really hope someone gets ahold of this kid before its too late...
point i took from the site: hate kills...
god im sad...this actually made me cry, esp. when i saw the pic of this 
little guy....
and i guess theres nothing we can do right? this little kid doesnt deserve 
or probably understand all the hate mail...btw, where are this guys parents?
**lora**

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Paul Doyle wrote:
> 
> When I wrote to this kid I told him that I didn't believe that he wrote his
> intro himself.  The language is too polished for a 10 year old to have come
> up with.  And I doubt his beliefs came to him of his own free will...more
> than likely his parents are behind it.  I wished him the opportunity someday
> to go out and experience people for himself instead of adopting his parents
> beliefs.

i think that kid's the son of some way crusty OG white coward type... i
can't place the first name, but i know a cat with the last name o
"black" (irony here) was runnin dat stormfront shit years an  years ago
an before that he was some kina OG kkklown wizard dragon fairie er
sumpin. so i think yer right in assuming that this poor kid hasn't had a
hell of a lotta variety in his upbringing.

--aRNO
 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 14:39:25 1999
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i was just sitting around listening to de la soul...

and some crazy shit happened.

i started getting ideas, and my mind started racing and turning around and
around.

i realized what the responsibility of artists and those who really
appreciate art is.

and then i took into acount all the things i've heard and seen in the
past. and went over them again and again in my head.  and they blended
together and eventually all came to the same rhythm.
and realized that what it was was basically all the same message.

i envision such a bright future for us.  people like you who know what i'm
talking about are few and far between.  

but something crazy is happening.  something rediculous.
people are starting to understand.

people who understand should know that you have my full support.  i'll
find out what you're doing and offer what i can to help.
and one day, i hope you'll trust me enough to do the same.

this, i guess is my way (right now) to let you know.

thank you.
for everything.

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I have to agree, most people that are still there anytime after 4:30-5 wanna 
dance really bad, that's the best to pump out nothing slower than 145bpm--i 
personally appreciate it alot moreat 6 in the morning that 11 at night


>ok, this reminds me of something that i've had a problem with for awhile.
>now, most parties have an early-morning/downtempo/chill dj to kind of wind
>people down.  i can wind down at home all by myself.  my theory is if 
>you're
>hardcore enough to still be around at 8-9 AM you NEED something bumpin' to
>keep you awake.  i always seem to go home thinking that i still had like 30
>mins of dancing left in me, but the dj put me to sleep.  so, do most people
>like the chill-morning sets?  call me curious...
>
>acidiz
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 15:10:33 1999
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http://www.treasuremall.com/fisher/


I don't know, imho I think Einstein was still right.
But what do I know?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 15:17:10 1999
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When I saw Kiball Collins, Sandra Collins, James Christian, Dj Trajic, and god
knows who else, the closing set was perfect.  Kimball went on last, and his set
was mellow enough for all the chill people and still hard enough for the people
who still wanted to dance.  Maybe a progressive set like that is the way to go.
And there is some decent mw progressive talent.  I saw Havok one night here in
lou and he tore my shit up.
PeAz,
Stumps

Adam Sjogren wrote:

> I have to agree, most people that are still there anytime after 4:30-5 wanna
> dance really bad, that's the best to pump out nothing slower than 145bpm--i
> personally appreciate it alot moreat 6 in the morning that 11 at night
>
> >ok, this reminds me of something that i've had a problem with for awhile.
> >now, most parties have an early-morning/downtempo/chill dj to kind of wind
> >people down.  i can wind down at home all by myself.  my theory is if
> >you're
> >hardcore enough to still be around at 8-9 AM you NEED something bumpin' to
> >keep you awake.  i always seem to go home thinking that i still had like 30
> >mins of dancing left in me, but the dj put me to sleep.  so, do most people
> >like the chill-morning sets?  call me curious...
> >
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> >
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Anyone ever been at a Moontribe event at 8 AM?  You can have your cake AND
eat it


> Adam Sjogren wrote:
> 
> > I have to agree, most people that are still there anytime after 4:30-5 wanna
> > dance really bad, that's the best to pump out nothing slower than 145bpm--i
> > personally appreciate it alot moreat 6 in the morning that 11 at night
> >
> > >ok, this reminds me of something that i've had a problem with for awhile.
> > >now, most parties have an early-morning/downtempo/chill dj to kind of wind
> > >people down.  i can wind down at home all by myself.  my theory is if
> > >you're
> > >hardcore enough to still be around at 8-9 AM you NEED something bumpin' to
> > >keep you awake.  i always seem to go home thinking that i still had like 30
> > >mins of dancing left in me, but the dj put me to sleep.  so, do most people
> > >like the chill-morning sets?  call me curious...
> > >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 15:59:50 1999
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A girl from Springfeild Mo gave me a DJ Dan tape at ID this weekend but
I dont know which tape it is.  It has a song with a robot like voice
saying something along the lines of We disco dance from outer
space...........take you away.  If anyone can id this tune, it would be
greatly appreciated.  Also, does anyone other than louipimps have id
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hey all you supastar dj's out there...I want YOU to play in KC... however I 
need to hear your shit first...send me tapes to show me what you got...I 
enjoy all styles of electronic music and alway give good words about tapes I 
like to other Promoters in the area...

hook me up and I'll try to do the same for you...

word...
dylan dorrell
strung out productions
1001 s. cedar box 433
ottawa, ks 66067

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Thought some of you might be interested--there was an article in this week's 
NYPress (my current home).  George Tabb reveiwed a book called Pills-A-Go-Go 
by Jim Hogshire.  (Published by Feral House, $16.95).  According to Mr. 
Tabb, a self-proclaimed avid pill-popper, the book is informative, 
interesting, and well-written, and also includes a host of Internet and 
Literature references.  It traces pills through history, explaining their 
history, current marketing techniques, doctor-pharmacist relations, effects 
of certain pills, and finally, how to extract things from pills and get more 
intense effects.

They might have a web address that carries the full article, but I'm not 
sure.

Enjoy!

-Andrea

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He he he, TRUNK'S GOING TO EAT YOU FOR DINNER, CANDYRAVER!

> 
> > Genesis P-Orridge on stage 
> 
> You can stop right there.
> Half these kids are lost at this point.
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babe instinct - disco babes from outer space

its a great tune.  it think its on 'funk the system' or something like that.
i've heard it in
*gasp* a few clubs i've checked out.


> A girl from Springfeild Mo gave me a DJ Dan tape at ID this weekend but
> I dont know which tape it is.  It has a song with a robot like voice
> saying something along the lines of We disco dance from outer
> space...........take you away.  If anyone can id this tune, it would be
> greatly appreciated.  Also, does anyone other than louipimps have id
> pics up yet???
> Mahalo,
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Disco Babes from outer space. It's by Disco Babes from Outer Space on NYC 
label Subliminal. It's produced by Praga Kahn...the guy responsible for 
Injected with a Poison.

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Well while we're on the topic of naming tracks, does anyone have any
info on a song with these really cheesy lyrics: you can be my burger
girl, i can be your bun, we can make sandwiches?  They played it
twice on the mainstage saturday night at ID and it's been in my head
ever since.  Super cheez, but great beat.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 17:54:36 1999
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around $800 for it.
excellent mint condition


mike d / gruve
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 17:56:10 1999
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It wasnt a party... It was THE party. To spend any amount of time trying to 
relate the vibe, the thickness of spirit there would be futile. I cant 
express the beauty of the venue, the massive re-unions between so many old 
friends, the pure and awesome power of it all. I just cant do it. There were 
a few downsides, but everything has a few downsides.. The overall party was 
just perfect. I guess the only thing I can say is.. I will see you all next 
year!!

   Love to all

          Dan Sharp... (0_o)

p.s. for the record, I was wearing spotted white and black dalmation pants 
or greenish/brown pants with inserts almost all weekend.

p.s.s. To the unknown individual who flipped me off(from the MW-wests raves 
camp) while I was doing trash duty.. Mad love to you..

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 18:03:29 1999
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about that  song....it's called sandwiches...there are only 5 thats right 5 
copies of it in the werld...I have herd 3 of those 5 coppies spun...thats 
all I know about it though....other than it's great...

dylan

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>Well while we're on the topic of naming tracks, does anyone have any
>info on a song with these really cheesy lyrics: you can be my burger
>girl, i can be your bun, we can make sandwiches?  They played it
>twice on the mainstage saturday night at ID and it's been in my head
>ever since.  Super cheez, but great beat.
>
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Hey, anyone seen copies of tracks from "Fuck Jungle".  I can't remember
what number in the series the CD was, but I want a couple from it.  One is
called "9mm" I think... mostly cuz the sample goes:
"The only fuckin' peace(piece)
 The only fuckin' peace
 The only fuckin peace they understand is 9 mother-fuckin' millimeter"

And a few others.  Some are by DJ Wally I know, but I've never seen any of
them on Vinyl.

Cheerio!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 18:25:45 1999
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>about that  song....it's called sandwiches...there are only 5 thats right 5
>copies of it in the werld...I have herd 3 of those 5 coppies spun...thats
>all I know about it though....other than it's great...


ask derek... he's the one of the people that played it saturday night.


tres
... i want a 909 :(

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>Tres!!!  Nooooooooo....are you two going to be that mid40 couple walking
>through the mall with the same sweatsuits on while powerwalking past all 
>the
>kids?????


no, we'll be the technoheads who's kids keep tellin' 'em to stop going to 
"their" parties cause we embarass them!  :)


tres
... will become the oldest candy raver in the world!!! :D

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busy couple of weeks.....
but i miss you fools too much to go w/o you any longer.
isn't that special.

austria was great fun.  "welcome to my house" was broadcast on an austrian
radio station...my friend listened to it.  didn't go raving/clubbing at
all.  sorry, no reports there.  queen of rave went cow-tipping instead.
ate lots of chocolate, pretended to be a tourist in vienna, hung out in
the mountains.  came to the conclusion that austria is keepin it real.
don't make me explain.  found a shirt that read "what, no kangaroos in
austria??" with a picture of some cows jumping around.  was rather amused.

ID was fuckin incredible.  i just wish i hadn't still been on
austria-time.  i assume everything that needed to be said
about it already has been said, so i won't type up a big review.  y'all
probably know how amazing it was by now.  and no, i do not have the
ability to make myself invisible, i was just.....ummm.....busy.  =)  but i
was really happy to see everybody that i did, even if i didn't spend much
time w/ anybody (looking back i wish i had).  i would have spoken up
during the mw-rave summit, but i can't handle hearing my own voice =P
(esp. coming from a bunch of massive speakers)  so for once, i kept my 2
cents to myself.  i don't wanna start naming off names cause the list
wouldn't end, but thanks to ricA for having the balls to run after a
random girl to ask her if her name was doris, and thanks to craig, misha,
and the joe.to massif for letting me party rockstar-style.  and to kevin
for driving.  everybody else, i love you just the same, but i wanna keep
this relatively short.
didn't sleep through richie's set this time, words cannot explain how glad
i am about that.  god damn.  good music all weekend long.  job more than
well done by jj and j-sun.

moving the next day wasn't too amazing an experience.  but, as you all can
see, i have a phoneline as of today, which, due to you ppl, will most
likely be tied up 24/7 by me checking my email.  hey now there's something
to look forward to.


derek playstation thinks he's more rave than i.  as if.

oh and if you're happy i'm back (yah, right), thank gip.  =D

did i miss anything good?
**doris**


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I wanna be able to tech the grandkids how to dance, they would be like damn
gramps has skillz.  Actually, I have been making a notebook of all the flyers
from the parties I go to so that I can show the youngins all the parties I
went to when I was just a little tike.  Well, it was nice to finally meet you
Tres.  Sorry I didn't hang out a little more, but I got there late and u guys
were so damn far away.
Stumps


"Atreu ." wrote:

> >Tres!!!  Nooooooooo....are you two going to be that mid40 couple walking
> >through the mall with the same sweatsuits on while powerwalking past all
> >the
> >kids?????
>
> no, we'll be the technoheads who's kids keep tellin' 'em to stop going to
> "their" parties cause we embarass them!  :)
>
> tres
> ... will become the oldest candy raver in the world!!! :D
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well, it just came out recently.  godfather and ritchie hawtin (yes, i'm
serious) played it.  godfather spun it 2 weekends ago and told me he just
had it sent to him a few days before.

> about that  song....it's called sandwiches...there are only 5 thats right
5
> copies of it in the werld...I have herd 3 of those 5 coppies spun...thats
> all I know about it though....other than it's great...
>
> dylan
>
> >Well while we're on the topic of naming tracks, does anyone have any
> >info on a song with these really cheesy lyrics: you can be my burger
> >girl, i can be your bun, we can make sandwiches?  They played it
> >twice on the mainstage saturday night at ID and it's been in my head
> >ever since.  Super cheez, but great beat.



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It's early February, ....  Im working at Record Time....  I go into the
Dance Room and Brian Gillespie asks me to hang on a sec and could he get my
opinion on something....  He wasnt sure what i or anyone else would
think....   He played it.... I freaked out....  He told me it was some new
stuff that Paris, the Blak Fu and my friend Andy Toth were working on.....
I begged him for a dubplate of it!!!!  then Brian got fired like 2 or 3
weeks later....  He got me a burned CD of it... He gave a few to some other
people....  one was Rich Hawtin....  I saw Rich at Record time a couple
weeks later and he was pulling up as I was leaving....  I asked what he was
listening to... He said it was a CD Brian gave him... I asked if he heard
Sandwiches....  we both just started jumpin up and down in the parking
lot!!!  Brian got me my Dubplate (he only made 2...one for me and one for
himself)   when Little Further rolled around,  i told Hawtin I had a
dubplate of it.... So, i let him play it... why not!?!?   nice reaction,
eh????


Well, now theres whites of it...  It's coming out through Star 67
Distribution in about a month....  the artist is "Detroit Gran
Pooh-Bahs".....


I also heard another forthcoming track.... even sicker!!!!!   Ill have a dub
of that within the next couple weeks (hopefully).....

Oh, theres also going to be a video for it....  Brian and i were discussing
it last night.....  And believe me, THAT is going to be funny!!!!


Oh, and as far as who I know of that owns the track....  Myself, Brian
Gillespie, Hawtin, Clark Warner, Brendan Gillen, Carlos Souffront, Liz
Copeland from WDET, Shake, David Hollands, and .Com......  there are others,
but not sure who...


There ya go....

any more questions????


Oh, and thanks to everyone for the interest and support!!!!

derek.



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>about that  song....it's called sandwiches...there are only 5 thats right 5
>copies of it in the werld...I have herd 3 of those 5 coppies spun...thats
>all I know about it though....other than it's great...
>
>dylan
>
>>From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
>>Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [mw] name that track
>>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Well while we're on the topic of naming tracks, does anyone have any
>>info on a song with these really cheesy lyrics: you can be my burger
>>girl, i can be your bun, we can make sandwiches?  They played it
>>twice on the mainstage saturday night at ID and it's been in my head
>>ever since.  Super cheez, but great beat.
>>
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-----Original Message-----
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>>about that  song....it's called sandwiches...there are only 5 thats right
5
>>copies of it in the werld...I have herd 3 of those 5 coppies spun...thats
>>all I know about it though....other than it's great...
>
>
>ask derek... he's the one of the people that played it saturday night.
>


Did I?????   i tottally dont even know... I know i played it at the DBN
tent.... In fact, i was mad at myself because I thought I *didnt* play it on
the main stage!!!!


Hmmm.... I guess the DAT's will have the answer.....right JJ????


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Heres the lyrics too... So we can all hug each other and sing it around the
campfire....


I know You Wanna Do It
You Know I Wanna Do It too
Out Here On The Dance-Floor
And We Can Make Sandwiches

You Can Be The Bun
And I Can Be The Burger, Girl
I Know You Wanna Do It
and We Can Make Sandwiches

So Make Your Thighs Like Butta
Easy To Spread
And We Can Make Sandwiches

Out Here On The Dance-Floor
Come On, We Can Do It
Yeah We Can Make
Sandwiches


ahhhh.... Just makes me wants some S'mores right now.... Dont you???


derek.

See you bitches at the barn!!!!





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I WONT BUY

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Mike @ Full Spectrum wrote:

> around $800 for it.
> excellent mint condition
> 
> 
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the voice says "we're disco babes from outer space, our ufo's take you away"
it's by disco babes from outerspace i dunno the rekkid name but it's on 
subliminal

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i think therez a white lable of that out now but not many, like 50

the 12" ain't gonna be out for a while

oh wellz
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...you suck.

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Alright, i wasn't gonna bother but u ppl r too fuckin much!   Esp u
derek for posting those lyrics...haha.  Hmm, where do i begin...

Got there at 4 am, mad rush to find the mw-raves tent area...took
forever...found chrise first which was SUPER cool of course...heh..then
finally found my best grrl suzi and spree..and was informed about a lil'
scrotum incident..heh.  Met rick from KC and THE trance dj...no not u
tzar..we've met be4...haha.

Anyway, didnt' do much during the day cuz it was too damn hot...oh
except go swimmin' in the stinky lake...uh huh.  Still, the space was
absolutely amazing.  And i'm not one to talk much bout vibe, despite
gruve's insistance that i'm all bout candy, but the word doesn't even
begin to do justice to this gathering which everyone contributed to in
their own special way..u'r all so beautiful..heh.

As far as the music goes...derek u rocked it out...AND u remembered who
i was this time...heh.  Not havin been brave enuff to venture into the
goa/trance land i mostly stuck to the main stage.  David Hollands was
very good as well...track selection got better as his set went along.
Uh what else...as far as richie goes...it's all been sed i think...and
the clark warner debate...i passed out shortly after he came on..but in
general, i enjoy his sets after richie...think the downtempo stuff is an
excellent way to end things...encourages us all to think...about what a
great experience the whole weekend was...to take a deep breath and gain
a deep sense of appreciation for it all...before we got in our cars and
left it all behind.

Alright i'm gettin carried away...glad to have finally met pixie, tres,
lora, etc.  Oh and hellige...damn yer a trip....sat. night just would
not have been the same without u..haha.

Nice to see everyone again, like lauryn, tzar, lil' sarah, jon for bein
so fond of canadians...be aware the invasion is soon to come, etc.  Dan
in case u didn't remember me..that was me sittin with chrise at yer site
when u were cookin them dogs and feedin the fish.  Uh, and it was a
pleasure to talk techno with mikeyd...damn he knows his shit!  Gip,
thanks for the bracelet...i'm sure it had somethin to do with my weekend
turning out as great as it did...haha.

Oh and thanks kev for drivin' doris and mine's asses 8 hrs each
way...boi u'r a trooper.

Thank u, thank u, thank u...for such a great weekend...oh and pics
coming soon...hopefully...
k, time to head off to skool...

lata kidz,
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I was hanging around the old house one day getting bitched at for not "putting the wash in the dryer when told to" and blah blah blah stuff like that when i realized i wasn't walking, i was dancing.... but to what beat????? NOTHING ELSE THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing machine!!!!! and i just started to do sum madd dance moves and added sound effects and shit and it was fucking cool as all hell it made my day.  SPINNING RECORDS ON A TURNTABLE? Fuck that.... i spin a cycle.... on my washing machine!!!!!!!! (*soap sold separately)

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NOTHING ELSE THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing machine!!!!!

Fuck that.... i spin a cycle.... on my washing machine!!!!!!!! (*soap sold 
separately)
>


I like washing machines...the spin cycle...mmmmmmm....throw in ALL my 
clothes sit on top...and ROCK OUT!!..

whendee

P.S. DOnt try this at at your corner laundramat ..last time i did i was 
kicked out... thats what i get for being naked in the city

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Is there ANY "raver" who hasn't done this?

yeah yeah I know there are like 50 on this list that won't admit it...pussy
closet washing machine dancers!

fergus :p

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hay...there was NO scrotum incident!!!  NONE!

hehe..it's all a lie from EVIL spree!  ONLY Evil Spree would MC!


believe me..believe the truth!!!
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whoa, i wanna meet the evil spree

FreakBoy


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>hay...there was NO scrotum incident!!!  NONE!
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I groove out to the washing machine...then I chill out to the dryer. 
I spend way too much time in the laundry room...

spencer;-)

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I often try to type in rythm


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>I groove out to the washing machine...then I chill out to the dryer.
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>spencer;-)
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no no no!!!  he is evil!!!  EEEeeevil!



ask anyone at the mwraves camp....bad bad bad..!

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So does this evil spree spin gabber?






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> So does this evil spree spin gabber?

If there's any justice....... :)

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hot damn this is a good tape!!  i got my chubby lil hands on it at ID and
have been listening to it ever since (well it's only been 2 days, but
yanno).  i've listened to it 2 times already today.  can't say anything
about the mixing b/c frankly, i have not paid attention to it, but the boy
has taste (when it comes to music, at least).  hit this kid up for a
copy!!  it's on the trancy side of things (but not the pretty
put-you-to-sleep kind) so i know at least some of you will appreciate the
suggestion.
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Hehe...and someone actually took the time to make up moshing guidelines.

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alexi delano will be spinning at velvet (ponti(cr)ac, MI) tomorrow nite.
who's with me?

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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Adam Sjogren wrote:

> whoa, i wanna meet the evil spree
> 
> FreakBoy

Yea, does the evil Spree write real hardcore?  :P

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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, Adam Sjogren wrote:
> I often try to type in rythm

Yea, I find myself doing this all of the time at work, sadly enough...
I'll be sittin there rockin out to my headphones on max volume (which the
people by me don't like to much, since I have MDR-V900s and they get quite
loud, as you know)...  I'll be chillin writing my Java code and start
typing to the beat until I devolve into just pounding on the enter along
to some crazy jungle rhythym.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 21:19:12 1999
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i'll keep it brief for those who didn't go; i know you're all sick of
hearing how awesome it was. that's cause it was! undoubtably one of the
best events i've ever been to. i'll just have to leave it at that. thanks
to everyone who made my weekend so meaningful, definately worth the 11
hour drive from minneapolis. i think i really needed this weekend for a
lot of reasons. the only thing better than the music was the company with
whom it was shared. i am ready for fall now.

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"e-TriNiTy" <e-trinity@gurlmail.com> writes:
>>i was dancing.... but to what beat????? NOTHING ELSE
>>THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing machine!!!!!

Funny you should bring it up; they've been
discussing the *exact* same thing on the
604=Goa list since Monday when somebody
posted one of those "You know you're a
raver when..." schmiznits...  (BTW, you
just passed the test Stephie.)

Like, you mw-ravers are *so yesterday*!

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-goa@party.net [mailto:owner-goa@party.net]On Behalf Of
>>Milton Durr
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:40 AM
>>To: 604@party.net
>>Subject: Re: [604] funny true raver thing
>>
>>
>> >You not only notice that household appliances like washing machines can
>> >generate a funky beat, you also argue about whether it's tribal or
>> >trance.
>> >
>>
>>
>>Guilty as charged!
>>
>>M

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ok..having been present for the madness..

mr. spree's mind was descending to a mike mccusty-like level..it was kinda 
scary- just pure filth was emanating from his mouth..

then again..i have to believe him on the "scrotum incident"..even though i 
wasn't present for said incident, spree was kind enough to give me a copy of 
his new tape (blizzard- it rocks btw.)..so i'll believe him...:)

if s00zi were to give me a free tape or 2, maybe i'd believe her instead..:)

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i don't normally review mixtapes, so you know this one has to be good.
picked it up among a slew of others at id, (most of which i haven't
had a chance to check out yet, soon enough ;). this tape is bangin!
a complete three turntable assault on the senses. relentless. i only wish
it was longer! (only 60 minutes.) the j-card is super schnazzy too, lotsa
pix of urbana kids (some of which i took), a very sweet touch to an
all-around awesome tape. it hasn't left my car stereo yet. if you want a
copy check his addy in the cc, otherwise i think matt laffey, er,
positive, nabbed a few to vend. once again peter, er, fiz, has officially
rocked my world! thanks, guy.

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ok...i promised i would review this tape if i was given one so here goes.

DJ Tsar's Future Primitive:
"it has a good beat and you can dance to it", "the mixing is good", "the
track selection is dope"

hmmm...well i have 3 other tapes of his and this is by far the best. side A
is sorta chill and just the sorta thing i like to listen to when i'm home
chillin. but yet still fast enough to bounce around to.
side B tho is my fav. it's faster and more in your face kinda stuff. plus i
REALLY liked the track selection and the mixing is smooth.  

i would rank it in the top 3 of favorite tapes.

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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:37:25 -0400 "Derek Plaslaiko"
<plaslaik@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
>Oh, and as far as who I know of that owns the track....  Myself, 
>Brian Gillespie, Hawtin, Clark Warner, Brendan Gillen, Carlos Souffront,

>Liz Copeland from WDET, Shake, David Hollands, and .Com......  there are

>others, but not sure who...

woohoo... look at that shit... ritchie hawtin stealin my shit!!!  why i
oughtta....

kids... this track is gonna be HUGE...  i just did a tape with Lee, and
it is the final track of my mix... everyone that i have played it for in
this neck of the woods has been diggin it... very simple... very
minimal... and sooooo damn infectious...  much love to Playstation for
hookin this brotha up... 

peace...

-pm-

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ok kids... i got inspired...

tell me whatchu think of these lyrics.. (respect paid to DJ Deeon for "Da
Dik Suk")

"Touchin' Spree's taint...
is what i wanna do!
Grazin' his scrotum...
until it turns blue!"

i think this is platinum!!! It's gonna be bigger than Wild Thang!

peace...

-pm-

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 >i just did a tape with Lee, and it is the final track of my mix... 

and I'd like to add that this tape is DOPE!!!

heard it on the way home from FA

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> > Oh, and as far as who I know of that owns the track....  Myself, Brian
> > Gillespie, Hawtin, Clark Warner, Brendan Gillen, Carlos Souffront, Liz
> > Copeland from WDET, Shake, David Hollands, and .Com......  there are others,
> > but not sure who...
>
>

.com was nice enough to let me end my set this past weekend @ A New Beginning
with this track.....The crowd loved it.

.com is my hero:)

-Aaron
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<<  i know you're all sick of hearing how awesome it was. that's cause it 
was!  >>

Actually...
I didn't go but everyone i talked to said that besides Richie Hawtin, ID 
wasn't all that.  Also,  that not many people were there.  It seems nearly 
everyone on this list was there and/or Spun there.  How did it compare to 
other camping events this year like Further, Little Furthur and Rave Em and 
Bail E?  Better or worse?
Trying to find the truth...
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other than Richie Hawtin it wasn't all that? LOL! rave'em & bail-e SUCKED
compared to ID. can't compare the furthurs cuz i didn't go to'em. and i
didn't spin at ID but i did do a little bit of babysitting and i still
thought ID  WAS all that.

there's the truth for ya

Gip

At 05:38 PM 9/8/99 EDT, RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
>Actually...
>I didn't go but everyone i talked to said that besides Richie Hawtin, ID 
>wasn't all that.  Also,  that not many people were there.  It seems nearly 
>everyone on this list was there and/or Spun there.  How did it compare to 
>other camping events this year like Further, Little Furthur and Rave Em and 
>Bail E?  Better or worse?
>Trying to find the truth...
>-Rob C
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DJ Dara of smile recordings, host of velocity, and co-owner of
breakbeatscience, has now officially been added to the lineup.

Bringing the current lineup to:

Dom+Roland (moving shadow, uk)
Deep Rooted (no u-turn, uk)
tech itch+decoder (technical itch/moving shadow, uk)
dara (breakbeatscience, nyc)
dan doormouse (distort/addict, fuckin' stallis)
eye-d (influential/kultbox/nsmm, netherlands)
mc rage (true playaz, uk)
controlled substance (nsmm/thermal recordings, san fran)
source (tree fort/nsmm, san fran)
kaoss (nsmm, orlando/omaha)
mc ill-esha (nsm, vancouver)
atomik (too cool for a crew, omaha)
nu jack (nsmm, omaha)

and of course, the entire evening will be hosted by .com. I'm not sure if
he know this or not yet. Oh well.

Of course,GRILLOTRON 2000 will be in omaha, april 22, of next year.

You can check www.grillotron.com for updates, although I really haven't
done all that much to update it lately.

More to come....
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>other than Richie Hawtin it wasn't all that? LOL! rave'em & bail-e SUCKED 
>compared to ID. can't compare the furthurs cuz i didn't go to'em. and i 
>didn't spin at ID but i did do a little bit of babysitting and i still 
>thought ID  WAS all that.
>
>there's the truth for ya


i'll help out a bit here... been to all furthur's besides '94, '97, and '98 
and i must say ID was the best party i have been to in all my raving 
years!!!  and you can quote me on that!


tres
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The truth is, If people are saying that besides ritchie hawtin that the 
event wasnt all that.. They either.. A. werent there. or B. really havent a 
clue.

  Ritchie played an awesome set, but it was also a flawed set(YES, I said 
it!!) there were numerous fuck-ups... But he was still mind-numbing..

But, lets remark on other highlights..

DANTE's workshop.. If you were not there and were not involved, you missed 
out on such a vibe producing event..

ODI's set..nuff said..

  JORDAN's set... Have I mentioned that this person is quite possible the 
kindest person that I have met in years... He made everyone feel like home..

J-sun's set.. Early morning bliss for me....

Amongst so many others that were X-tremely beautiful...

There was a tremendous turn-out... Sorry that you were not there...
I feel that no-one should respond any further to this question..

WAS IT BETTER OR WORSE...??? Is this so you can feel better or worse about 
not being there??  How can you really compare furthers and dreamfests and 
bail-e's?? Each events had there high's and there lows.. Let it ride there.. 
Let it rest.. It was beautiful, much like further was beautiful.. I think 
that maybe this list's response to the event is so much stronger due to the 
fact that this list had so many people that participated in the event in 
numerous ways..

People are entitled to there opinions.. But to some of us on here... That 
event is near and dear to us..

        Love to all

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aiight...hit me up wit some wtw2 info pretty please...=)

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I was told only like 1000 people were there.. anybody know a more accurate 
number?
-Robby C


<< There was a tremendous turn-out... Sorry that you were not there...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:17:45 1999
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Ok, sorry to burst everyone's hate luvin bubble, but the STL e-groups
is down because Mikee was just tired of the whole thing.  It has
nothing to do with Ian, in fact Ian and Mikee and I were all hanging
out last night at Double X's house with one of the Mindfield cat's (Ben
i think his name was) who played at ID.

--- TOBY M BROSNAHAN <TMB4@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Well for all you kids on mw or KC AND on
> STL-raves....you may be wondering
> where all the posts are?
> 
> A little birdie from egroup told me that STL-raves
> is temporary to
> permanently closed down due to in part but not
> solely to the antics of one
> Mr. Ian Hard.  It seems the egroups frowns on
> soliciting  sex to 15 and 17
> year olds by a 30 plus man and the emails about
> selling drugs probably did
> not help as well and the hate mail /death threats
> might have been a minor
> infraction of the egroups policies.
> 
> So if you know anyone on the STL-Raves list that is
> NOT on mw, MO, or
> KC-raves...pass it along that egroups is down and
> HOPEFULLY will be back up
> soon.
> 
> I will keep you posted...but when its back on you
> will know.....
> 
> Toby
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Best party yet.
Thank you j-sun and jj.
Thanks to everyone else.

lil sarah
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> the voice says "we're disco babes from outer space, our ufo's take you away"
> it's by disco babes from outerspace i dunno the rekkid name but it's on
> subliminal

Artist: Babe Instinct
Title: Disco Babes from Outer Space
Mixes by: Harry "Choo Choo" Romero + Pianoheadz
Label: Subliminal Records (US)

Came out late 1998 in the US, slightly earlier in the UK I believe.

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NOW THAT WOULD BE FUNNY!!!!!

teehee

suzi/s00zi

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:20:25 1999
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  Why does it matter.. and who is your source????

Does it matter if there were only 50 or 50000???

        If you want perfect accuracy.. Go next year and count...
          Or maybe even volunteer to help out...

              But til then.. Does it really matter?? I mean.. Does it??

    Love to all
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:21:31 1999
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g0d damnit ...

i wil give you a free tape or two...umm...how does umm...lauryn hill and wu 
tang sound?

suzi

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:21:32 1999
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>
>Best party yet.
>Thank you j-sun and jj.
>Thanks to everyone else.
>
>lil sarah
>from iowa
>
>ps. it's nice to be back on the list ;D
>
>ITS NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK... WISH I WOULD HAVE SEEN YOU THERE>..


   Love to you...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:23:13 1999
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i hope that isn't a poke at me..


(sigh)

suzi/s00zi..

so who's goin' ta WTW this weekend?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:24:11 1999
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and whoz tape is this????  im all about anythng trancey :)

Happy BerfDay to me
Gabe

dpayer@umich.edu writes:

> hot damn this is a good tape!!  i got my chubby lil hands on it at ID and
>  have been listening to it ever since (well it's only been 2 days, but
>  yanno).  i've listened to it 2 times already today.  can't say anything
>  about the mixing b/c frankly, i have not paid attention to it, but the boy
>  has taste (when it comes to music, at least).  hit this kid up for a
>  copy!!  it's on the trancy side of things (but not the pretty
>  put-you-to-sleep kind) so i know at least some of you will appreciate the
>  suggestion.
>  **doris**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:24:37 1999
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blah there wuz way more then that..when i came back Sunday nite i asked at
the gate and they said they had close to 3000...they had at least 1500
Friday nite..

James

At 06:04 PM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>I was told only like 1000 people were there.. anybody know a more accurate 
>number?
>-Robby C
>
>
><< There was a tremendous turn-out... Sorry that you were not there...
> I feel that no-one should respond any further to this question. >>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:30:46 1999
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when reveiwing a tape it is very helpfull to describe what type of music it 
is!

Gabe
 jes@pubnix.org writes:

> i don't normally review mixtapes, so you know this one has to be good.
>  picked it up among a slew of others at id, (most of which i haven't
>  had a chance to check out yet, soon enough ;). this tape is bangin!
>  a complete three turntable assault on the senses. relentless. i only wish
>  it was longer! (only 60 minutes.) the j-card is super schnazzy too, lotsa
>  pix of urbana kids (some of which i took), a very sweet touch to an
>  all-around awesome tape. it hasn't left my car stereo yet. if you want a
>  copy check his addy in the cc, otherwise i think matt laffey, er,
>  positive, nabbed a few to vend. once again peter, er, fiz, has officially
>  rocked my world! thanks, guy.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:45:40 1999
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Ok this is by far the best tape to come from the commie bastard, hell it
might even get him the 13 year old candy ravers he just loves..Side A is
really good, it's on the progressive tip..Side B starts off with a really
bad ass trancey break track which sets the mood for the whole side..This is
the best side by far and it has Kaycee's Escape on it which is such a
beautiful tape..I suggest e-mailing him for the tape of if you are under
the age of 16 and female write him up privately and sumthing will be
arranged for you to come ovah get the tape...alright there you go misha a
review of your damn tape..

James


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 22:50:26 1999
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DJ Dayzee of Ruffneck Ting records UK is going to be playing tomorrow
night in St. Louis with MC Chicaboo at club Babylon on Washington
street, other DJ's include Tre', Pe-Pe, and Jim K spinning some old
school.  
cover is $8 for guys and $6 for girls i believe.
Peace!!@!!!!!

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Kaycee's Escape on it which is such a beautiful tape

goddamnit i'm a crackhead it should have been track


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hahahah....i found the ben affleck lighter!  hahah laura..no one stole it
you freak...you left him in my jacket pocket...hahah...=)

do i get a reward or something?  <evil grin>

werd to yer momz
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even though dica JUST_FUCKING_POSTED ALL THIS!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

ummm.

sorry.

hope to see all of your smiling plurry faces there. i'll be wearing
sandalwood Land's End(tm)  chinos, Sperry Topsiders(tm) w/ no socks, a
pink Izod(tm) Lacoste(tm) polo with the collar turned up, and a forest
green Speigel's(tm) shetland sweater draped over my shoulders, and i'll
be drinking Absolute(tm) bloody mary's all night whilst mingling with
all the beautiful people.

*huggums*
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2. FEMALE & MALE MUD WRESTLERS (BRING LOTS A DOLLARS)
3. HARDCORE WHITE TRASH WRESTLING (BLOOD LOSS)
4. CRAP ASS MUSIC
5. YOU BRING THE REST, INCLUDING TENTS TO SLEEP IN, ADDITIONAL FOOD FOR
THE GRILL, A HARD ON FOR HARDCORE, WHATEVER YOU NEED SURVIVE UNTIL THE
EXIT GATES OPEN ON SUNDAY MORNING.



DIRECTIONS:


FROM MILWAUKEE TAKE I-43 SOUTH TOWARDS BELOIT.  25 TO 30 MILES LATER
EXIT ONTO HWY 83 IN MUGWONAGO.  PROCEED NORTH (RIGHT) AND TURN LEFT AT
THE 1ST STOPLIGHTS BY CITGO.  THE NEXT STOP SIGN IS COUNTY ES, TURN
LEFT.  AFTER 1/2 MILE TURN RIGHT ONTO COUNTY J, WHICH RUNS NEXT TO THE
ELEGANT FARMER.  DOWN THE ROAD THE SPEED LIMIT DROPS TO 35 MPH, MY
FAVORITE POLICE SPEEDTRAP, SLOW DOWN CAUSE YA'LL ALMOST THERE.  LESS
THAN 2 MILES AFTER THE SPEED LIMIT JUMPS UP TO 55 MPH, YOU WILL PASS
COUNTY E.  THE BARN IS LOCATED AT THE THIRD HOUSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE
OF COUNTY J AFTER YOU PASS COUNTY E.  THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE MARKED BY
REFTECTORS; PULL IN TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

FROM MADISON TAKE I-94 EAST; EXIT HWY 67 IN OCONOMOWOC.  TURN RIGHT
(SOUTH) ON HWY 67AND AFTER ABOUT 1/2 HR. YOU' LL DRIVE PAST A SIGN
MARKING LITTLE PRARIE.  SOON THERE AFTER YOU WILL TURN LEFT ONTO HWY
20.  IN A FEW MILES HWY 20 VEERS RIGHT, CONTINUE FORWARD ONTO COUNTY J.
APPROX. 5 MILES LATER THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT, LINED
WITH REFLECTORS AND DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A HORSE RANCH.  IF YOU PASS
COUNTY E YA'LL DROVE TO FAR.


FROM CHICAGO TAKE I-94 TO HWY 20 IN RACINE.  HEAD WEST (LEFT) ON HWY 20
FOREVER AND THROUGH WATERTOWN AND SO ON UNTIL HWY 83.  TURN NORTH
(RIGHT) ON HWY 83, ONCE YOU DRIVE OVER I-43 FOLLOW THE MILWAUKEE
DIRECTIONS TO THE BARN.

ANYONE ELSE CALL 414-617-4940 FOR MISGUIDANCE.

DAY OF PARTY YOU LOOSE US WE FIND YOU NUMBER IS 414-617-4940.

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to all of you bitches and all you hoes.....
the wheels are in motion....the mud has been set, and chlorinated.....
the rough and tumble world of white trash wrestling on display for your virgin eyes....
SEE THE BLOOD! FEEL THE FURY! HEAR THE EVIL!
Saturday, Sept. 11.
Come see the sequel to best damn pay per view not on TV.

> -LIVE-
> doormouse
> davros
> stunt rock
> vEnetian snares
>
> -DJ'S-
> anonymous
> adjust
> bootie heaven w/ unibomber, dica, .com, dallmann
> franjo
> west bend posse
>
> tickets are 10 bux or 15 w/ an official t-shirt....call or e-mail massive records (414)906-1751 or massive@execpc.com
> BYOB, tent, food, etc.
> 4 pm sat-death
> call massive records of jeff's phone the DAY OF THE EVENT for info.
> massive records...(414)906-1751
> jeff's phone...(414)617-4940
>
> info also available here:
> www.angelfire.com/ma/distort/wtw.html
>
> -spread the word, tell everyone you know, forward to every list/message board/person you know
>




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 23:24:14 1999
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actually
funny we should talk about the wonders of the laundry, i love to do laundry, 
im not joking. i find it to be incredibly satisfying when the clothes come 
out all warm and smellin' all good. plus, the entertainment of the washing 
machine..its all too good to be true. can i do someones laundry for them? 
please?

>From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw]discover phat beats within your own home!
>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I groove out to the washing machine...then I chill out to the dryer.
>I spend way too much time in the laundry room...
>
>spencer;-)
>
>--- Fergus <fergus@primenet.com> wrote:
> > Is there ANY "raver" who hasn't done this?
> >
> > yeah yeah I know there are like 50 on this list that won't admit
> > it...pussy
> > closet washing machine dancers!
> >
> > fergus :p
> >
> > -
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bahahah..you rule....

tha's awsome..the homeless now have a free country to call their own!!!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 08 23:36:18 1999
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I gotta give props, Indy dancers took the
cake this year @ Interstellar for Liquid
stylee, Kool-Aid and cru have taken it to a
whole new level!  But I must admit I was
holding back alot this year, I played tourist 
boy this year (minus the camera).

As far as steps, this one kid named Steve
from Alburqurque (sp?), New Mexico dominated,
hands down.

I wish I brought out Dan and the Rec Shop
Cru to represent in the circles, but the best
dancer I saw in the circle this year patterned
A.G. (former Rec Shop) from Raw Footage.

Trust me, the best dancers weren't there this
year @ Interstellar...

- t

--- Mark Walsh <siezer@dtmf.org> wrote:
> 
> ive met ALOT of good ass dancers from louiville...
> 
> > I liked to do the LOUiPiMPS dance... it's rather
> nifty and we made it up
> > while driving in the car. I just stand there
> (mostly still, but you can move
> > around a little without lifting your feet) ... put
> your right arm a little
> > above waist level, bent, fist straight out forward
> and pump with the music
> > ... it's really amusing when 3 or 4 of us are
> doing it at the same time...
> > and can easily be mistaken for masturbating if you
> move your arm the wrong
> > way... anyhow.
> > 
> > hah... but it's hard to explain dance moves. i
> just dance and yell and clap
> > when i am having fun. i don't try to bust out all
> my old moves and stuff...
> > it's just different now - i could care less if i
> look like an old man
> > dancing i'm having fun damnit =)
> > 
> > - Radianation
> > 
> 
> 

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Yeah, that shit happens to me everytime i get together with my self. My girl
helps a lot with my flow of creativity. We were probably all going to be
professional musicians, skaters, artists, what have you. Then we all got
socialized by our environments, parents, societies telling us that we have to
grow up, get jobs, have 2.4 children, two cars with a garage to fit them in
and all that otha bullshit. My girl and I have been looking for friends, or
whatever cuz our best friends are scattered here and there and we never quite
found new friends who match the caliber of the ones we are unable to be with
all the time. Point is when i first joined the list i saw some shit that made
me think " fucking nother dead end, these peeps are talking about shits that i
don't want to be about." Preaching one thing but doin another. Now that i have
unsubbed and resubbed and met all ya'll who probably feel the same way about
the same shit boat that we're all floatin in my views have changed a bit.
Between the racist shits, the love of the music, the fact that we don't have
to wear 50 inch fucking bells to love what it's all about, the desire to
create our own music that is an extension of us, and the fact that we won't be
another zombie clone in corporate America if we can help it makes me happy. Im
stressin' right now ya know, trying to finish school, make money, bein'
pressured to conform to attitudes that i hold untrue. Ya'll make me happy to
be part of a group of people who may be different as hell, but all about the
same things. Believe it or not we all had to abandon parts of  our lives that
perhaps we didn't want to lose, but by playing on these computers, making
music, helping each other out, and giving and taking different ideas from each
other we are still artists, all of us. We are the shit, we are the new world
order, we are the future. This message, to most is incomprehensible, but to
many of you, whose minds are as fast and sketchy as mine it may make sense. I
don't know many of you but i understand you, and often how you got to where
you are. Yeah we are all dicks sometimes, but deep down when you wash off all
the shit...well,. We are the best of the best, even when we think we aren't. I
hope to see some of you real soon and i would like my girl and I to run into
you all. She's on the list too, and if ya think im cool wait till ya talk to
her. She's so cool she makes me look like bill gates. Oh and by the way,
Trunk, ya gotta check out some of the software i have. Im telling you hook up
sequencers, 808's, a pc, midi, and turntables and that shit will drop
devastation like a smart bomb. I hope ya'll made it through this without no
delay.     Peace to you all, and smile, everyone will think yer up ta
somethin.                Phil  (The Preacher)

".chad sponholz." wrote:

> i was just sitting around listening to de la soul...
>
> and some crazy shit happened.
>
> i started getting ideas, and my mind started racing and turning around and
> around.
>
> i realized what the responsibility of artists and those who really
> appreciate art is.
>
> and then i took into acount all the things i've heard and seen in the
> past. and went over them again and again in my head.  and they blended
> together and eventually all came to the same rhythm.
> and realized that what it was was basically all the same message.
>
> i envision such a bright future for us.  people like you who know what i'm
> talking about are few and far between.
>
> but something crazy is happening.  something rediculous.
> people are starting to understand.
>
> people who understand should know that you have my full support.  i'll
> find out what you're doing and offer what i can to help.
> and one day, i hope you'll trust me enough to do the same.
>
> this, i guess is my way (right now) to let you know.
>
> thank you.
> for everything.
>
> _
> chad@hyperreal.org
> http://www.hyperreal.org/~chad
> 414299wako
>
> if you feel the need to get funky... by all fucking means, do so.
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> I gotta give props, Indy dancers took the
> cake this year @ Interstellar for Liquid
> stylee, Kool-Aid and cru have taken it to a
> whole new level!  But I must admit I was
> holding back alot this year, I played tourist
> boy this year (minus the camera).
>

kool-aid is prolly the best liquid dancer in the midwest.  if you've seen
him , then you understand what i mean.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 16:35:03 -0700
From: franjo vukovic <unknownalias@theglobe.com>
To: venetian snares <vsnares@aphextwin.zzn.com>,
     stunt  rock <clfst@hotmail.com>, ronny <deelish@execpc.com>,
     mikey <littleangelfck@hotmail.com>, kevin christman <distort@msn.com>,
     jason snell <kamphetamine@yahoo.com>, dr buthcher MD <ggick@indiana.edu>,
     dlux <dlux@not-so-massive.com>, dj adjust <adjust@x0x.com>,
     damien kardaras <damienchris@hotmail.com>,
     chuck goldman <cgoldman@execpc.com>, chris yates <_zaq@excite.com>,
     chris hill <chill_98@yahoo.com>, c8 list <c8@mail.ameth.org>,
     bill bunion <smooveb@asapnet.net>, arno <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>,
     abelcain <the13th_hour@yahoo.com>, Matt Magyar <DJDelerius@aol.com>,
     Julia Jaksic <julia@enteract.com>, Jethrox <dropbass@execpc.com>,
     DJ .com <phlurgg@juno.com>
Subject: WTW Round 2

ONCE AGAIN, FORWARD THIS TO ANY, AND EVERY LIST YOU SEE FIT.TELL YOU MOM, BRING THE KIDS...IT'LL BE FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY.$10 in advance, $15 at the door.


Saturday, Sept. 11, 1999

you heard about the last one, don't miss this one.


Music:::

4-6...west bend posse
6-7...andy puls
7-9...bootie haus
9-10...dj adjust
10-11...venetian snares
11-12...anonymous
12-1...doormouse
1-2...stunt rock
2-3...abelcain
3-4...franjo
4-???...go to hell dirty slut


DIRECTIONS:


FROM MILWAUKEE TAKE I-43 SOUTH TOWARDS BELOIT. 25 TO 30 MILES LATER EXIT ONTO HWY 83 IN
MUGWONAGO. PROCEED NORTH (RIGHT) AND TURN LEFT AT THE 1ST STOPLIGHTS BY CITGO. THE
NEXT STOP SIGN IS COUNTY ES, TURN LEFT. AFTER 1/2 MILE TURN RIGHT ONTO COUNTY J, WHICH
RUNS NEXT TO THE ELEGANT FARMER. DOWN THE ROAD THE SPEED LIMIT DROPS TO 35 MPH, MY
FAVORITE POLICE SPEEDTRAP, SLOW DOWN CAUSE YA'LL ALMOST THERE. LESS THAN 2 MILES AFTER
THE SPPED LIMIT JUMPS UP TO 55 MPH, YOU WILL PASS COUNTY E. THE BARN IS LOCATED AT THE
THIRD HOUSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF COUNTY J AFTER YOU PASS COUNTY E. THE DRIVEWAY
WILL BE MARKED BY REFLECTORS; PULL IN TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

FROM MADISON TAKE I-94 EAST; EXIT HWY 67 IN OCONOMOWOC. TURN RIGHT (SOUTH) ON HWY
67AND AFTER ABOUT 1/2 HR. YOU' LL DRIVE PAST A SIGN MARKING LITTLE PRARIE. SOON THERE
AFTER YOU WILL TURN LEFT ONTO HWY 20. IN A FEW MILES HWY 20 VEERS RIGHT, CONTINUE
FORWARD ONTO COUNTY J. APPROX. 5 MILES LATER THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE WILL BE ON YOUR
LEFT, LINED WITH REFLECTORS AND DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM A HORSE RANCH. IF YOU PASS
COUNTY E YA'LL DROVE TO FAR.


FROM CHICAGO TAKE I-94 TO HWY 20 IN RACINE. HEAD WEST (LEFT) ON HWY 20 FOREVER AND
THROUGH WATERTOWN AND SO ON UNTIL HWY 83. TURN NORTH (RIGHT) ON HWY 83, ONCE YOU
DRIVE OVER I-43 FOLLOW THE MILWAUKEE DIRECTIONS TO THE BARN.

for more info, contact doormouse at massive records (414)906-1751 or massive@execpc.com.day of, you can call jeff's
phone (414)617-4940 for info also.tickets sold strictly at the door.this is a byob,tent,food,grudge match event....come
prepared. 



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It's just a bunch of pussy-ass trance!!!  :)

and misha... why don't you spin something good like latin house or 
something!


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having been there from saturday night to monday morning, i thought id
was an excellent event, easily one of my top ten. there was so much
effort put into everything, on the behalf of many people, and it clearly
showed. things like the "vibe patrol" people walking around on sunday
night, cheering, banging drums, making an atmosphere i haven't felt in
years, and greatly missed.

richie's set was definitely the musical highlight for me, but that said,
i think he was tired and it showed. he came on a little later than
scheduled, and finished up a little earlier than scheduled. from what i
heard, sunday was his fourth day in a row spinning, and so the fact that
he wasn't quite up to par was very understandable. flying around the
world and doing four or five hour dj sets four days in a row can't be
easy, so i'm just glad he was able to be there and play for us.

it seems that lately he's been ending his sets by playing with the 909,
cranking up the speed to end in a fury of beats, reminiscent of Moby's
"thousand" track from years ago. since richie is one of the very few djs
left that i get excited to hear spin anymore, i'm hoping this is just a
phase.

criticism aside, i have yet to see another dj make a crowd start
screaming at nothing but a 909 hihat going "tick ... tick ... tick ...
tick ... tick ... tick ... tick ... tick ... "

-kc


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 00:43:01 1999
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Omigawd, speakin o trance...Two words: John
Phantasm...This man is the future!  Hard acidic
psychedelic trance UK style!...This man's beats 
were taking over people's bodies!!!...Most of the
rekkids he was spinnin @ Interstellar were his own
stuff even!...Book this man, and they will come!!!

Props also go out to the Drop Bass Cru for keepin
things hard all night long!!!...Hardcwoh, you know
the scwoh!

- Second Coming

--- satori <satori@dtmf.org> wrote:
> > Trance is by far my favorite style of techno - you
> can be rolling,
> > tripping, peaking, or coming down - no matter what
> your state is, you
> > can be totally absorbed into the music, the music
> just becomes you...
> well the entire idea of trance is to be absorbing
> and lulling..(hence the
> word TRANCE)...and sometimes if you try real hard
> and pay REAL close attention
> you can even get 'lost in the music' SOBER! oh
> wow...
> oh nevermind, whats the point of that.
> i dont mind trance, but my god i wish ohio, at
> least, would start
> spinnin more than trance and house....
> 
> we need bangin techno and about any kind of non
> prozac-influenced-hardcore
> or some darkstep...
> *I* actually like raspy samples, distorted bass
> lines and dark ambient
> strings...
> 
> 'sides
> house makes me violent.
> 
> micah
> 
> y
> 
> 

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yes again...

i thought some ppl might find it enlightening to know that i heard one of
the two guys who wrote the movie script on the local radio this morning
and in his words, the gory thing were teeth, mike was standing in the
corner, and the little handprints were of the kids the blair witch killed.

IMO the movie is better because they don't show the witch at the end...
makes it much scarier...

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Derek Plaslaiko wrote:

> derek.
>
> See you bitches at the barn!!!!

do you mean _THE_ barn?! as in WTW2?

if so, i'll be the guy dressed as the construction worker stud from The
Village Peeple, cept my jeans will be buttless, and i'll be wearing a
Penis Viking helmet instead of the hard hat.

a Penis Viking helmet is like a regular viking helmet, cept instaeda
horns ya got big dicks stickin up.

BYE!@!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 01:20:38 1999
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Occasionally I rip the tags off of unsuspecting mattresses...

muhahahahahahahaha!!!!!

-Craig

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Oh yes, some of which you took Jes... don't think that putting Demon-Kale
up on your web page will be forgiven... oh no... you will most definitely
be attacked by a herd of rampaging carnivorous Hippos, who will rub you
down with red meat for your evil deed.

And maaaaan is Peter gonna get it too.

grrrr.

Kale/DreamSequence

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> it was longer! (only 60 minutes.) the j-card is super schnazzy too, lotsa
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whoever u talked to is a nutcase, it was the shit.  Best party i have
been to.  There may not have been as many people there as some would
have thought.  But I liked that, made it much more intimate.  Like they
say quality over quantity, and there was plenty of quality.
Stumps

RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
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> <<  i know you're all sick of hearing how awesome it was. that's cause it
> was!  >>
> 
> Actually...
> I didn't go but everyone i talked to said that besides Richie Hawtin, ID
> wasn't all that.  Also,  that not many people were there.  It seems nearly
> everyone on this list was there and/or Spun there.  How did it compare to
> other camping events this year like Further, Little Furthur and Rave Em and
> Bail E?  Better or worse?
> Trying to find the truth...
> -Rob C
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>Actually...
>I didn't go but everyone i talked to said that besides Richie Hawtin, ID
>wasn't all that.  Also,  that not many people were there

Well, I didn't even see Richie (had to leave Sunday morning) and I thought
it was all that and a bag of chips.  Of course I'm biased.  It seemed to me
that there were TONS of people there, but really I have absolutely no idea
how to judge a group of people that is so spread out...hrm.  Anyone know the
word on how many people were actually there?

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okie....there is a party in bloomington, indiana (where i go to
school...woohooo) and it's on the 18th of this month (the same day the
roots and method man and too short and eminem are playin here)...

playing are:

mike dearborn
dj speedy
skywalker
d-phine
dj redman
topspeed
agent 2012
dj strictnine
double t

it's 15$ with a student id or before midnight
2 rooms

this event is being held by rice and beans...they usually do hiphop events
things around town...
their info line is 812 335 2034

if you go, get ahold of me...i will be there =)  but you guys should try
and come down and make a weekend out of it!  

peace
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Gotta unsub for a couple of weeks due to financial shortcomings at present.
Should be back soon for those that care.

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The irony of life is that you die. I think that you shouldn't be afraid to
die and you should remember that every fuckin' day. I am pissed at myself
for everytime that i have treated people like shit. Everytime I think of
fucking somebody over because im being a dick, or everytime i just take
what i want cuz i have no money, or everytime i say that ill get to
something that i just never get to i should slap myself. I have no idea
why i sent this to ya'll and im sure you probably wont either but think
about shit fore you do it. Appreciate the shit ya got, because when yo
times up what goes around comes around and the worst thing to have biting
your ass is karma for all the stupid shits that could have been avoided.
P.S. Chad you have my props and support for being the man. We need more
like you cuz you got some good shit goin'. Whatever you wanna do, Im like
Dr. Octagon, Ill be in ya corner.       peace phil


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--- dylan dorrell <ddorrell@hotmail.com> wrote:
> hey all you supastar dj's out there...I want YOU to play
> in KC... however I 
> need to hear your shit first...

http://welcome.to/mobass.com

LOOK FOR TRUNK!!!!

die....
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I now have a new job, so I also have a new e-mail address.

So if anyone cares my new address is: api@techgallery.com

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 03:23:21 1999
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YOU CAN DO IT!!!

> i'll help out a bit here... been to all furthur's besides '94, '97, and '98 
> and i must say ID was the best party i have been to in all my raving 
> years!!!  and you can quote me on that!
> 
> 
> tres
> ...



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 03:26:08 1999
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YES!! so now she'll stop accusing *ME* of having it
rock on



On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, lauryn g. wrote:

> hahahah....i found the ben affleck lighter!  hahah laura..no one stole it
> you freak...you left him in my jacket pocket...hahah...=)
> 
> do i get a reward or something?  <evil grin>
> 
> werd to yer momz
> lauryn
> 
> ------------------------
> -lauryn m. goller
> -indiana university
> ________________________ 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 03:35:39 1999
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hrmm... ill give you there are some good dancers from indiana..
bloomington to be more exact...
most kids from indianapolis ive seen cant dance worth a shit..
but then again ive only been there like 3 or 4 times

best dancers ive seen so far:

two black douds from detroit at glow after sun came up 
davey from bloomington
lynn from louiville
curt from dayton

as for dreamfest dancers...
i wasnt paying them too much attention.. i was too busy dancin my own ass
off with tres n pixie =)

oh yeah.. sean (tres n pixies friend.. not me...) was doing a pretty good
job dancing with the crazy people that came out of the wood during hawtins
set =)

					-sean


On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, vision one wrote:

> I gotta give props, Indy dancers took the
> cake this year @ Interstellar for Liquid
> stylee, Kool-Aid and cru have taken it to a
> whole new level!  But I must admit I was
> holding back alot this year, I played tourist 
> boy this year (minus the camera).
> 
> As far as steps, this one kid named Steve
> from Alburqurque (sp?), New Mexico dominated,
> hands down.
> 
> I wish I brought out Dan and the Rec Shop
> Cru to represent in the circles, but the best
> dancer I saw in the circle this year patterned
> A.G. (former Rec Shop) from Raw Footage.
> 
> Trust me, the best dancers weren't there this
> year @ Interstellar...
> 
> - t
> 
> --- Mark Walsh <siezer@dtmf.org> wrote:
> > 
> > ive met ALOT of good ass dancers from louiville...
> > 
> > > I liked to do the LOUiPiMPS dance... it's rather
> > nifty and we made it up
> > > while driving in the car. I just stand there
> > (mostly still, but you can move
> > > around a little without lifting your feet) ... put
> > your right arm a little
> > > above waist level, bent, fist straight out forward
> > and pump with the music
> > > ... it's really amusing when 3 or 4 of us are
> > doing it at the same time...
> > > and can easily be mistaken for masturbating if you
> > move your arm the wrong
> > > way... anyhow.
> > > 
> > > hah... but it's hard to explain dance moves. i
> > just dance and yell and clap
> > > when i am having fun. i don't try to bust out all
> > my old moves and stuff...
> > > it's just different now - i could care less if i
> > look like an old man
> > > dancing i'm having fun damnit =)
> > > 
> > > - Radianation
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 03:43:22 1999
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<insert comment about "knowing you're a raver when" here>

;)


>I was hanging around the old house one day getting bitched at for not
"putting the wash in the dryer when told to" and blah blah blah stuff like
that when i realized i wasn't walking, i was dancing.... but to what
beat????? NOTHING ELSE THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 03:50:44 1999
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I had no clue who you guys were talking about till i saw him in a preview 
tonight and put his face to his name ...id do him...but only if i can tie 
him up and whip him first :)
whendee

>hahahah....i found the ben affleck lighter!  hahah laura..no one stole it
>you freak...you left him in my jacket pocket...hahah...=)
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DAN DOORMOUSE vs TRUNK!!!!!
WTW IN THA MUD!!!!!!

Stay tuned.....

He challenged me, him gonna die....


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Saturday, September 25                           Indianapolis      FUNK 
enterprises invites you to enroll.....

---------------------------COLLEGE---------------------------------

your audio professors:

Dan Efex-Chicago
Jeffree Dee-FUNK enterprises, Milwaukee
Matt Bandy-SUBterror/Alien Squad, Lexington
Gizzmo-SUBterror, Kokomo
Jay-C   -Dynamic Groove, Milwaukee
Top Speed-Cruch Entertainment, Indianaoplis
DJ Tsar-Level 9.0/K-Krew, Evansville
Bodaleg-Boogie Nights, St. Louis
Tim Krochalk-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
Christina-Docile, Indianapolis
Nate the Natural-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
DJ Booth-Garage Prod, Louisville
Matt Aiden-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis

this will be held in a multi-level venue w/ two rooms of sound
Lighting by Light Fantastik

FUNK enterprises 317.375.7744        Kindred Groove 314.995.9215
         Indianapolis                            St. Louis


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Just wondering if anyone was going to Deja Vu this Saturday in Columbus, I'd 
like to meet some of you guys :-) And if anyone lives around Ohio State 
University any would like to show an incoming freshman around the campus, 
let me know!! This is my last rave before I start college, so I want to make 
it special :-)


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>Just wondering if anyone was going to Deja Vu this Saturday in Columbus, I'd 
>like to meet some of you guys :-) And if anyone lives around Ohio State 
>University any would like to show an incoming freshman around the campus, 
>let me know!! This is my last rave before I start college, so I want to make 
>it special :-)

ill be there... just hoping it's not another bacon-fest as was clandestine..
:)

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>i don't normally review mixtapes

i do!  :P

and i hafta concur.. this tape fucking ROCKS.  hard, banging minimal techno 
stuff, some bleepy, some deeper stuff.  it flows a lot like richie's set at 
ID.  relentlessly assaulting you to the bitter end.  come back from boston, 
beeyotch!

blaze dis one.
jon

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ok so it's already all been said, more or less...  dreamfest was an
excellent time...  even pushing some of those old parties from my
starry-eyed candyraver days out of my top 5 party list.  

Anyway, I'll run thru a few of my personal highlights and then I'm going to
attempt what nobody else is loser enough to do - list all the netravers i
saw there.

so friday night... saw derek play... he was excellent.  found bekka and
doris pretty much right as they got there... spent pretty much the whole
weekend hangin with bekka... doris went and disappeared into various
rockstar hotels though. not exactly proper behavior for a professional
netraver!  friday was pretty chill though, I went to bed kinda early.  But
then again I woke up early too.  Saturday's daytime highlights were
swimming in the stinky lake and... uh.. i guess just hangin out around the
mw-raves area.  Actually most of my highlights are just hanging out.
Saturday night my first set was cut short after the 3rd record because of
dante and his hippie dance workshop.  can't say i was especially happy
about that.  Saturday night was spent mostly sleeping, but i did manage to
be awake for "dj playstation" and also again for david hollands... i spent
most of david's set listening to mikey spin in the chillout dome though...
still what i heard of david's set was good.

sunday... we actually slept in!  then it was time for a "shower" courtesy
of a hose and some soap that kids left us.  then more hanging around.  then
derek played on the DBN system, followed by matt demmon, and then myself.
I was a little out of practice, but i felt pretty good about my set.  Hope
some other people liked it.  No damn hippies cut me off that time.... ha!
sunday night was richie...  i actually spent most of the time out on the
hill behind the main stage just chillin... but he sounded excellent as
ever.  then clark came on... i really enjoy his stuff but the time that he
plays it is usually right when i'm about to pass out.  and that's what
happened here.  

monday was pack up and leave day...  by the time we dragged ourselves out
of the tent, almost everyone was gone... and the mw-raves area was clean.
wow.  we scored the last two ID t-shirts on the way out for $5 a piece,
which was awesome.  Oh yeah, and i ended up driving derek plaslaiko's car
to madison while he rode back to detroit in an RV.  don't ask.  I did
manage to get to work 90 minutes late though. ha!

anyway, here's what you've been waiting for... the massive computer geek list:
bekka, doris, kevin, me, dica, spree,  matt positive, derek plaslaiko,
misha/tsar, adam/ckeeper, tracy koogler, heather dehart, matt hellige, matt
demmon, jen palmer, jes, gip, james martin, lauryn/gimmejungl, s00zi,
sean/siezer, lora, ricA, dj storm, doug/varsha/dj boo, mikeyd, micah/satori
(thanks for the shirt btw), j-sun, lil sarah, chad sponholz, adam meadows,
dan sharp, robin urmanic, spahn,  and about a million more...  by the way,
i have pictures of pretty much everyone i listed here, and they will be
posted soon. 

see you all next year! (because of course jason and jj will do it again...
otherwise i will come to louisville and egg their houses!)

ok.

chris

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An Everyday Survival Kit

Toothpick
Rubber band
Band aid
Pencil
Eraser
Chewing gum
Mint
Candy Kiss
Tea Bag

Here's why:

Toothpick - to remind you to pick out the good qualities in others.
Rubber band - to remind you to be flexible, things might not always
go  the way you want, but it will work out.
Band Aid - to remind you to heal hurt feelings, yours or someone
else's.
Pencil - To remind you to list your blessings everyday.
Eraser - to remind you that everyone makes mistakes, and it's okay.
Chewing gum - to remind you to stick with it and you can accomplish
anything.
Mint - to remind you that you are worth a mint to your family and
friends.
Candy Kiss - to remind you that everyone needs a kiss or a hug
everyday.
Tea Bag - to remind you to relax daily and go over that list of your
blessings.

This is my gift to you. May you be richly blessed.
To the world, you may just be somebody...but to somebody, you may be the 
world.
Send this to anyone who you think needs to know that they are loved
by someone in their lives. Make someones day just a little brighter
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--- jes <jes@pubnix.org> wrote:
> 
> i'll keep it brief for those who didn't go;

No, no I didn't...


 i know you're
> all sick of
> hearing how awesome it was.

Yes, yes I am.....
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you forgot one...

handgun

handgun - to remind you to kill happy peoople, do-gooders and especially
those who forward chain letters they think are nice or 'cute'

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At 11:45 PM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
><insert comment about "knowing you're a raver when" here>
>
>;)
>
>
>>I was hanging around the old house one day getting bitched at for not
>"putting the wash in the dryer when told to" and blah blah blah stuff like
>that when i realized i wasn't walking, i was dancing.... but to what
>beat????? NOTHING ELSE THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing
>machine!!!!! <


Has anybody ever used a sample of the washing machine in a track?  That
would make for some wack-ass techno....

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 REVIEW MY GOD DAMN TRACKS OR I WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

http://welcome.to/mobass.com

FIND TRUNK! LISTEN! REVIEW!

GOD DAMMIT!!!!
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--- Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:

> hope to see all of your smiling plurry faces there. i'll
> be wearing
> sandalwood Land's End(tm)  chinos, Sperry Topsiders(tm)
> w/ no socks, a
> pink Izod(tm) Lacoste(tm) polo with the collar turned up,
> and a forest
> green Speigel's(tm) shetland sweater draped over my
> shoulders, and i'll
> be drinking Absolute(tm) bloody mary's all night whilst
> mingling with
> all the beautiful people.

I'll be wearing SPEEDOS!!!!!!!!!!

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i'll be there, prolly working the door/doing pat-downs.  do me a big favor
and pass this on to anyone you feel should hear this:  this is the first
medium-sized (for ohio, anyway) party columbus has had since all the media
shiznit went down, so it WILL be scrutinized.  this will set a standard to
all the people who say 'so raves aren't about
dealing/fucking/tagging/getting fucked up?  well, prove it.'

the venue operator is aware of the risk he could be taking in allowing this
event to take place (you'll know what i mean when you get there ;)) and will
not allow any bullshit.  so please please please please DON'T DO ANYTHING
STUPID!!!!!!!  there aren't any venues left in columbus because of the
reputation our scene has, regardless of what the truth is.  maybe we deserve
this rep.  i hope not.  the lack of columbus parties is largely due to
promoters seeing that all their work get spoiled by a bad apple or two (or
forty).  its frustrating.

remember what you represent.  take pride in yourself and your scene.  and
remember:  they're called PARTIES because you're supposed to have FUN!

thanks!

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       WE HAVE TO WEAR CLOTHES!!!!!!!

i guess i can scrounge up some tiny outfit...where are my wonder women 
underrroos?

whendee

>>
>
>--- Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:
>
> > hope to see all of your smiling plurry faces there. i'll
> > be wearing
> > sandalwood Land's End(tm)  chinos, Sperry Topsiders(tm)
> > w/ no socks, a
> > pink Izod(tm) Lacoste(tm) polo with the collar turned up,
> > and a forest
> > green Speigel's(tm) shetland sweater draped over my
> > shoulders, and i'll
> > be drinking Absolute(tm) bloody mary's all night whilst
> > mingling with
> > all the beautiful people.
>
>I'll be wearing SPEEDOS!!!!!!!!!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 06:59:26 1999
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Heres a small review, but ya gotta promise to tear my shit up too:)
I cant give ya too much shit cause my tracks arent all that anyway.

1)Rage? Rage against the evolution of a 2x2 beat. Sometimes all of that "Rage" can block creativity.
2)Crush? So you can do BakEdits, you're screwin around with the 
"Reverse" with yer sampler. But eventually things get out of time and
so does rythmn. Things eventually develop beyond 2beats, eve tho' its some old RaveBreak sample. Damn i'm havin flashbacks of Hyperactive93'. he he
3)wont load?
4)Keeps freezin up, or is that yer MetalRaveMadness?

Ok, now you gotta give me THE shittiest review you can produce.
And anyone else out there in a bad mood.

www.mp3.com/bipolar

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--- Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:

> if so, i'll be the guy dressed as the construction worker
> stud from The
> Village Peeple,

Speedos...black. And some Converse ALL STARS....black.
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--- Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:

> if so, i'll be the guy dressed as the construction worker
> stud from The
> Village Peeple,

Speedos...black. And some Converse ALL STARS....black.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 08:04:20 1999
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alright...here it is.....the following were written as i listened to the
tracks....so forgive the rambling.....

rage:  reminded me sort of older Speedfreak/biochip c type hardcore for
some reason....  interesting, funny samples, all over the map.  in my
opinion you can't go wrong with metal, scarface, and other random shit.
the beats are rather simple, but i like it that way....i can't really be
a good judge cuz i am not a big fan of jungly type stuff.  i like what
seems to be a hybrid between hardcore and jungle tho....

crush: ummm starts off as like ghetto house......then goes into
something that seems to be like a punk rock stab at the current state of
rotterdam hardcore......then into some definitely old school type
hardcore, with the obligatory synths and "fuck you" samples..this bit
sounds like what would happen if like dark raver and mark n had a
bastard child who produced music.....then into what it would sound like
if there was such a thing as a washining machine effex processor for the
end......
kind of all over the map....should be renamed "multiple personality
disorder".....

trunksteppah: name alone says jungle.....now...lets see...hmmmm...ummm
metal!   wow.....scary...who is that geetar riff from?  ac/dc meets 3D
and trunk is their bastard demon child from hell....that is the vibe i
get here....
some other eerily geetar riff that sounds like it came from adam and the
ants or some shit.  distorted breaks...creepy bass line....hmmm...if the
dj's in la played jungle like this, i would be a happy camper and
actually go to see jungle dj's play.... the drums seem to be kind of
stuttered, wierd..... goes into some wierd what i call a typical jungle
breaks....the middle of it (?? not sure if it's the middle or if there
are 2 tracks here) i am honestly kind of bored with....after the brief
interlude, more dnb....a little over repetitive at the start...the
samples used aren't your typical overused samples that seemingly every
fucking producer uses, this i like.  3/4 of the way through, we got more
metal stuff....including the actual drumming from dare i say a slayer
track?  fun.....now this is
interesting....hahhaahahhaha....weeeeeeeeeeeee.  holy shit, a
jungle(?)/slayer track complete with full on metal
scream?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!  never thought i would see the day....
woo hooo...i can see it now, pits in the jungle room!
weeeeeeeee.....what?  into a straight up hardcore type beat at the
end??!?!???!?!??! porn samples........need i say more?  i would say cut
all the crap in the middle and we have some fun with this one....

metal militia:.....it's all about Slayer here baby!  fucking rocking
start!  two devil signs in the air here, my hair is growing at about a
foot a minute! not nearly as repetitive as the previous track.
even more slayer!
yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaawwwww

jungle type stuff with pulp fiction samples, clockwork, and more metal
......once again all over the map....more metal with a slow hardcore
type beat...ooooo, like that sample from the shining..
so far, this is a pretty fun clusterfuck of a track......then into
prophecy samples, add some wierd acidic type jungle... rotterdam synth
shit....more 94-96 rottendam influenced jungle type stuff
good one.

overview.....i like em. why? cuz i like it when i hear artists who use
their many musical influences in their production, and let them all
show.  the trunksteppah could be shorter, and i can do without that
middle part that is rather over repetitve and reminds me too much of
your typical jungle. the other three were good fun, and i like em.

now, do me a favor and review my dj set....i need some more input from
other people on this...
go here, click the link, and bam....techno...
 http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/technomonkey1.htm
don't hold back.....i want honest reviews on this.
thanks
TRUNKalicious wrote:

>  REVIEW MY GOD DAMN TRACKS OR I WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
>
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> FIND TRUNK! LISTEN! REVIEW!
>
> GOD DAMMIT!!!!
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--- jared griffith <djnickel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> alright...here it is.....the following were written as i
> listened to the
> tracks....so forgive the rambling.....

> metal militia:.....it's all about Slayer here baby! 
> fucking rocking
> start!  two devil signs in the air here, my hair is
> growing at about a
> foot a minute!

NEED I SAY MORE???????
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--- jared griffith <djnickel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> alright...here it is.....the following were written as i
> listened to the
> tracks....so forgive the rambling.....

> metal militia:.....it's all about Slayer here baby! 
> fucking rocking
> start!  two devil signs in the air here, my hair is
> growing at about a
> foot a minute!

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--- p®óFè$$ïøñâ£ ®ãVë® <professionalraver@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tea Bag - to remind you to relax daily and go over
> that list of your
> blessings.

Tea Bag - to remind you of when you rented that stupid
movie "Pecker", when you should have rented "Orgazmo"
...but then it reminded you that all the true freaks
live in Baltimore...and that reminded you of your
Ultraworld days, so it was 'all good'...

Okee Okee, howz bout "Ravah Survival Kit":

A Molly - cuz she makes you sm;)e & keeps yur feet 
          movin all night long & she keeps you awake
          for the long drive home

Bottled H2O - cuz sometimes Molly gets evil & trys to
              dehydrate yah

Extra Loochie - fo mo h2o and gas and Taco Bell 

A Flashlight - to keep you from walkin into the trees
               when you're walkin thru them dark dark
               trails @ them crazy 3 day outdoor partys
               in southern Illinois

A chain - connected to your keys, cuz yur a Jack Ass
          and have locked your keys in the car or have
          just plain lost em too many times!

A pen - to write down all dem digits you be collectin
        from all them fly hunnies

A Trojan - in case you 'get lucky' ;)

- Porn Again

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On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:26:57 -0400 (EDT) "|p.r.a.s.a.d|" <livnfour@engin.umich.edu> wrote:
>it was a pretty small party i guess... maybe 1000-2000 ppl.. 

um.  ok.  so 1000 people is "a pretty small party" to you people?

jeez i gotsta move...


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oh hey yeah....i jus got dis in zee mail the other day and i'm a diggin it! yeah uh huh!!  =)


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Hello, my name is Misha.

I have been observing the behavioral patterns of a certain happy
hardcore dj this past weekend at ID (don't tell him I said this but his
name is Spree), and I was amazed by the amount of candy ass that he
gets.
Therefore I have decided that while I still love trance it is getting
me nowhere as far as getting laid which basically destroys the whole
purpose of why I even began dj'ing. That is why I am switching to
spinning happy hardcore. My dj name will be TsAr-E-o. Look for me at a
friendly candy ass party near u :)

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>YOU CAN DO IT!!!


*bahahhahah*  I wish the sticker that they were handing out that said this
were big enough to put on my bumper.  Hrm......ideas forming....

Small funny story about that though.  Sometime Sat. morning we were all out
chillin in our camping area.  Jason Clark and some other kids flew by on one
of those golfcarts yelling and screaming and just basically having a good
time while being very obnoxious.  After they had gone...someone in one of
the areas relatively close to us said, "I think that's the fucker who's
throwing this party, even ~he's~ having fun!"  I could only laugh.  See, I
think one way to tell if it's a good party is if the staff are having a good
time too....yeah, they're going to be scurrying around, but you'll catch
them dancin or bobbin their heads or yelling and screaming....  Right on.

Koog ~~ Tracy
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Then a cab driver you will be."

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>g0d damnit ...
>
>i wil give you a free tape or two...umm...how does umm...lauryn hill and wu
>tang sound?
>

umm...big no on tha lauryn hill.....anything else??

otherwise, my scrotum comment stands...


Dj Storm
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>>Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:43:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: vision one <vision4217@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] Describe your favorite dance move
>>Omigawd, speakin o trance...Two words: John
Phantasm...This man is the future!  Hard acidic
psychedelic trance UK style!...This man's beats
were taking over people's bodies!!!...>>

just to let y'all know..there'll be an all goa/psy trance party
next weekend (friday) in pittsburgh..
check
http://cenotaph.org/gyrophare/

for more info........

i'll be there......

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Saturday, September 11th
FAMILY REUNION
A FREE DAY PARTY

DJ 3D - Forte Recordings
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John B.I.D. Simmons - Soul Foundation

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...when did he get a jamaican/british accent? 
(as demonstrated while mc-ing at id)

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Anyone here that lives a l'il bit southwest of the midwest? (I know there's
a couple, so I'm not that far off) get back to me...pretty pretty please =)

danke!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 13:46:40 1999
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Anyone interested in checking out Brian E's new tape "Disillusion" GOA and
psychedelic trance), you can e-mail him at bme0980@silver.sdsmt.edu or check
him out on the web at

http://members.xoom.com/djbriane

You can also see/hear him do his THANG at Zoop Production's "The Hills are
Alive" in Rapid City, SD on Saturday, September 18th along with:

DMX - hard house - Denver, CO
Shahzad - hard progressive house/epic trance - Denver, CO
Freakboy - hard acid techno/hard trance - Minneapolis, MN
& locals Willie, Esis, Fevah, and Dr. Jekyll

Check out the events section on the Zoop site for more info:

http://smoke.sdsmt.edu/zoop

Tanya :)

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>and whoz tape is this????  im all about anythng trancey :)

>Happy BerfDay to me
>Gabe

>dpayer@umich.edu writes:

> hot damn this is a good tape!!  i got my chubby lil hands on it at ID and
>  have been listening to it ever since (well it's only been 2 days, but
>  yanno).  i've listened to it 2 times already today.  can't say anything
>  about the mixing b/c frankly, i have not paid attention to it, but the boy
>  has taste (when it comes to music, at least).  hit this kid up for a
>  copy!!  it's on the trancy side of things (but not the pretty
>  put-you-to-sleep kind) so i know at least some of you will appreciate the
>  suggestion.
>  **doris**

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hey kids- i haven't posted since i first logged on about a month ago,
i've neglected you! (if you're on mw-raves, hello, i am sarge, and this
will have to do for an introduction) however, juno was quite fucked until
i was gone two weekends ago and our power went out; it erased all of my
email saved to folders, and some of my addresses, but on the good side,
juno now works correctly. =[  anyway, as promised, a review-

left late from kc, about twelve, got to id about 8, 10 that night. scoped
the site, really good choice, thank god that none of the trails were dead
ends that i could find. mmmmmm... if you remember me, hi amy and stacy,
hope to get to know you bth better at parties upcoming, i'm sure we will.
(you met stickman, milkshake and i at the stage behind the main stage
friday night) main stage was well set up, and as i approach the drop bass
tent, i see that spree is spinning- :):):):)! trying to look composed, i
ask if he has mix tapes. "Sure, just a second." and neither he or matt
positive would let me pay them. love you guys. further exploring, i walk
to the second stage and dj tsar is kicking some very nice trance. i
talked to pixie, near the stage, hi babe, and she said she could get me a
mixtape, but she wanted me to find her later and although i tried
valiantly, i eventually gave up. :( through being a bum for a little
while, i endeavored to find some kc kids, but was not rewarded until much
later when i found angie. so good to see you as always, dear. we walked
to the main stage, but i wasn't really digging the groove, so i headed
back to the tent to wait for matt positive to play with spree at 1:30. at
this point i would like to comment on the sheer beauty of the venue.
again, kudos to the site team. highlights- the dreamcatcher, the lake,
and easy access to all areas from all areas. however, as many have
mentioned, the dust was a  happy hardship. at one point i remember
feeling the groove in the drop bass tent, and then apologizing moments
later for covering all the kids with an inch or so of dirt. sorry. <=[  

bored at about 12:30, i walk over to main stage, and spree is playing
early, and well. i ran to wake up my friends, and he was just getting off
when i got back. however, he and matt did play later in the night,
really, really good set, the first set i saw that attracted masses,
although i could have done without the cher track. icky. in any case, i
kicked up alot of dust, and wore my ass out. thanks again, guys. the set
was so good that some girl came bounding out of the dancefloor and gave
me a big hug cause she couldn't resist. i love that. wherever you are,
thankyou. oh, and word to the kids i met there, rose & rose & company,
and a warm fuzzy for james, (chi-town) very, very sorry about the vibro
massagers. i'll make it up to you when i'm in town. yes, i hope to be up
there relatively soon for the next party you recommend to me. do you have
that footage of the hardcore set? say you do, and email me privately with
details how to get a copy from you. 

as had been previously planned, i left about two o' clock the next day to
drop by kc and grab some kids for a new beginning. however, though i
tried you keith, you weren't at home, and i found out that guffie made it
to id, chez had to move in the morning, etc. so my traveling buddy was
maria. thank you so much dear, you were the party, and you are my roadie
for life. ;) new beginning had a pretty good venue, it was clean at
least, that was a change, and so many of my kids were there! too many to
name, i love you all.
however, i didn't really get into the music that night, too much drama.
apparently there is a law requiring security at parties in omaha, and
some of them were real jerks. 
some kids were arrested, and several kids had vicks & stuff confiscated
as paraphernalia. geez. anyway, i had a rather good time, despite the bad
vibes floating, and if you didn't know, stickman and i printed those yes!
and built-in bra stickers. we are very proud. props to doug. man, you are
a sticker fiend. i think about every raver there at forever after was
covered, and nb was even better. hi michelle, danny, rebecca, and all of
our omaha kids. despite drama, and a rather short party, we did have a
good time, thanks to the promoters, and all involved. oh, word to kid,
who rode in our car to the afterparty. wish i'da got your info. maria and
i didn't stay long at the after party, as i had to get back to
interstellar, and she to work. what a ride back. again, you are welcome
anytime, babe. 

hehe- after i left me travlin' buddy, i promptly ran out of gas. (sigh)
however, a good samaritan helped me out, candied out and all, and i was
soon back on the road. i decided to stop home and get some sleep, but
instead ended up in a parking lot crashed out. (hadn't seen sleep since
many moons) when i awoke, i was speaking dreamily to someone, who i
discovered were two cops. whoa, i'm awake! what did i just say? i
couldn't remember, and they were giving me a really strange look, like i
just pulled a hotdog stand out of my ass, and served them lemonade out of
an aerosol can. yeah, that's pretty much the look. after doing my tired
best to put on a good face for the sake of ravers everywhere,  the police
checked for warrants and let me go. (big sigh) 

made it back to id, thanks mainly to ice and cigarettes, about
nine-thirty.  the whole vibe had changed, and there were many, many
faces. i wish i could have been two places at once. richie played a great
set, of course, hadn't heard him live, and that night was really good,
thanks to the company of milkshake, james, and two amazing people named
sarah and rachel. you guys saved me. i'll email you soon. 

when i awoke, the party was winding down, and i felt very satisfied with
my weekend. at this point, props to the wonder twins, eric and brook,
eda, rocky, beth, amy, and to danny, aforementioned. i look forward to
seeing you as soon as possible, are you coming to raver day? i hope stick
hops on here and tells his story, i don't have the stamina. but it's
quite a tale. 

okay, now to the whacked stuff. fuck pickpockets, show a little mercy,
heartless bastards. as always, if you sold bunk pills, fuck you, you
deserve worse. and a special note- some kid told a friend of mine he'd
give her a pill for fifteen if she'd fool around with him. you're a
fucked up monkey, i hope you grow nerve endings in your hair, you fuck. i
have never heard of such disrespect. of course, the kids who tore down
the dreamcatcher have serious issues, what would make you do such a
thing? and if you keep doing it, where will we party? you will answer to
the mighty sarge. and all though not all of us were pigs, we trashed the
place, kids. i am very disappointed in us. is this scene really about
plur, and righteously good music? that"s what i was told.  lets not blind
people with our blatant disrespect for property. society at large is not
ignorant of our existence; each time a kid is arrested for selling or
using drugs, or we deface the venue, or mad drama breaks out, it brings
us that much closer to restrictive laws that could stifle the beautiful
scene that is blowing up here in the midwest. please don't forget. 

whew- that's it, that's my weekend. i'll be at raver day, and i hope to
see you all there. please remember that we will be in the eyes of the
public, and party responsibly. i have no doubt that some of us will
succomb to the temptation to (insert drug reference here), what with the
prospect of roller coaster rides and games and rides and whatnot, but
please think before you act, and give them something positive to say
about us. unless they're assholes. then stick and i will break out the
whoopass. see you all there.

-sarge out-

ps- if you've a note for stick or i, the addy is cannedheat@juno.com
also, tara-(punxangels@aol.com) i hope you will be at raver day, come
find me. i haven't met you yet, and i think i need your help. see you
soon. =)

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OH MAN that sucked ass!  I've never heard a track so bad!!!
It sounded a lot like two balloons being rubbed together with no
inclination of any kind of rhythm.  I played it, and had a herd of wild
moose show up at my door rutting.
Could you pppppplllllleeeeeaase make something with SOME kind of musical
ability?  
I think I'm gonna be sick.

Ok, now maybe I'll go actually listen to it.  hee

Kale/DreamSequence

On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, TRUNKalicious wrote:

>  REVIEW MY GOD DAMN TRACKS OR I WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!
> 
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> GOD DAMMIT!!!!
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>hahahah....i found the ben affleck lighter!  

Good, now get the fuck off of my back about it!!!

princess applesauce my ass

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>YOU CAN DO IT!!!


ALL NIGHT LONG!!!!

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Got Ass?

Friday September 10, 1999
at the Channing Murray Foundation
1209 W. Oregon 
Urbana IL

Come Celebrate the Funkiest Part of the Human Body!
Get Ready To Move Your Ass With:

Dave Siska -- Smooth Slow Ass Action From WNUR Chicago

Kevin Vogel -- Live Pfisting Action from St Louis

Syntax -- This Anal Explorer will Rip You A New Asshole With his Huge
          Basslines

Jerry Lundegaard -- Deep Jungle Cuts from Your Rectum

Pepper Jackson -- "I Like It When People Stick Fingers Up My Ass When I
	           DJ"

Fast Action and DJ Heumann -- Double Anal Penetration to Widen Your Hole

party goes from 9 pm to 1 am (and im werkin hard on an afterhours  ..any
help out here???)

cost: $7
      $5 if you show us your bare ass
      $2 if you let us take a picture

Rural AmeriKa cumming atcha baby!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 15:34:04 1999
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I was thinking about sampling the noises that the transformers make when they
change from robot to vehicle, animal, etc. and making a beat from that.  Mix in
the transformer theme song a little and it would be all good.
-Stumps

PlasTicPortal wrote:

> At 11:45 PM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
> ><insert comment about "knowing you're a raver when" here>
> >
> >;)
> >
> >
> >>I was hanging around the old house one day getting bitched at for not
> >"putting the wash in the dryer when told to" and blah blah blah stuff like
> >that when i realized i wasn't walking, i was dancing.... but to what
> >beat????? NOTHING ELSE THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing
> >machine!!!!! <
>
> Has anybody ever used a sample of the washing machine in a track?  That
> would make for some wack-ass techno....
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> Ryan
> ~yes, I dance to the washing machine in my underwear  :>)
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this was in a local paper called "real detroit."
as opposed to...you know...fake detroit.

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ok, I had this 7 page e-mail all ready to send....and you know what, i just
can't do it.

to everyone i met and saw again: brandon, doug, amy, jordan, tracey, s00zi,
mikey, giles, prdf, jason, gip, misha, lora, lauryn, sarge, dan, lance,
stan, awol, bob,  brian, nick, derek, jason's family, sean, craig, the kids
from colorado (ross and rachel), the kids from the east coast, trout, stevie
t (yep i saw you, hope you had a good time) jj, the angels, millie, james b,
james again ( i'm not kidding, i'll kick yer ass) the irc mw raves ops,
gawd, i'm forgetting seven billion people...if i forgot you, e-mail me a
virtual slap and i will remember, robin, all the kindred groove kids i met
sunday night while you were walking around with your shirts on, dica, kurt
(i saw you walk by, but you were too fast for me to flash you), rick, erin,
john, the guy who spun ambient in the chill dome sunday afternoon...forgot
your name, and everyone else who was there and made the weekend wonderful...

and my tres...who finally showed up friday and calmed my severe separation
anxiety

thank you all!! and it couldn't have happened without the little
people...thanks little people!!!

if you were there, you know...if you weren't, you're sick of hearing about
it....

much love and respect to each and every one of you...and many many respects
and love also to jason and jj for loving us enough to provide the
opportunity for all of us to make it happen, and providing the money to pay
for it ;) or something like that...y'all know what i'm trying to say
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That was his MC---MC ADB


>From: jes <jes@pubnix.org>
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>...when did he get a jamaican/british accent?
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> That was his MC---MC ADB

Yeah but word on the streets is that ADB is actually Spree. After all, most
DJs MC for themselves, right? :). Personally, I like to get on the mic and
yell out "LIGHTAH!!!!" right when the bassline drops...  People love it when
I do it, especially when theres no music playing.

LIGHTAH!

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doris...oh my...how could i forget you..

and bekka....i forgot you too...

=(

i so sowwy... =( will you ever forgive me?

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well it's bad that you forgot bekka...but doris. well, anyone who loses
their "I NEED ASS" bracelet doesn't deserve to be mentioned

Gip

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>doris...oh my...how could i forget you..
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What parties are going on this weekend in Chicago? None of the websites have 
the current listings. So tell me what's the 411.

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>LIGHTAH!


WOOOO!!!!  YEAHHHHH!!!!


i personally love yelling fire!!  that really gets those ravers blood a 
pumpin'!


tres
... who made who?

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It's been done in an old electro track.. can't remember the name of it
right now though.

Kale/DreamSequence

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:

> I was thinking about sampling the noises that the transformers make when they
> change from robot to vehicle, animal, etc. and making a beat from that.  Mix in
> the transformer theme song a little and it would be all good.
> -Stumps
> 
> PlasTicPortal wrote:
> 
> > At 11:45 PM 9/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > ><insert comment about "knowing you're a raver when" here>
> > >
> > >;)
> > >
> > >
> > >>I was hanging around the old house one day getting bitched at for not
> > >"putting the wash in the dryer when told to" and blah blah blah stuff like
> > >that when i realized i wasn't walking, i was dancing.... but to what
> > >beat????? NOTHING ELSE THAN THE.... AMAZING ONE OF A KIND.... washing
> > >machine!!!!! <
> >
> > Has anybody ever used a sample of the washing machine in a track?  That
> > would make for some wack-ass techno....
> >
> > Ryan
> > ~yes, I dance to the washing machine in my underwear  :>)
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>Return-Path: c8-admin@mail.ameth.org
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>Guns n' Roses' first studio track in six years, "Oh My God," will be
featured 
>in a commercial for the science-fiction movie "End of Days,"
>The song is expected to appear on the soundtrack to the film and on an 
>upcoming GNR album, which is as yet untitled and has no release date. The 
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>fuck yeah, i can't wait!!!!!!
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> Clark Warner then took the decks and brought us back to reality 

right on! that was a great set, i know i didn't mention it in my review,
but what would that be called, categorically? and does anyone know what
all he spins? i'd love to hear more.

=)=),
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> 
> i personally love yelling fire!!  that really gets those ravers blood a 
> pumpin'!
> 
> 

That, or "BOMB!!!"... then quietly saying 'ass' so that YOU know it isn't
really a bomb that you are yelling about... fergit everyone else.  
heh heh hehhhh

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Isn't return to chicago hardcore this weekend?

>From: CeveraS@aol.com
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>What parties are going on this weekend in Chicago? None of the websites 
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>>...when did he get a jamaican/british accent?
>>(as demonstrated while mc-ing at id)

>That was his MC---MC ADB

negative. ADB was not MCing at ID. During Spree/Positive tag team, 
Spree got on the mic and demonstrated what he could do as an MC (not 
much). 

anyway, enough out of me

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a note on the dreamcatcher:

i was told by someone who lives/works at oak shores on friday afternoon that
climbing on the dreamcatchers was allowed, as long as it was one person at a
time, and the person wasn't making an effort to tear the dreamcatcher down.
(ie shaking the ropes while hagning from them, general roughhousing, etc) I
myself had no desire to climb on them for the simple fact that I was afraid
my good intentions would go astray, but i'm sure it didn't take long for
that ok message to travel. in which case, thank goodness for making people
sign waivers, or putting up a sign releasing liability, otherwise, it seems
to me that either oak shores or the person giving mis-information would have
been responsible for the girl who fell and eventually went to the hosptal
(from what i heard)

in the future, i would suggest placing a sign near the dreamcatchers to
thwart confusion and conflicting wishes as to whether or not climbing was
allowed.
pixie

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> > i personally love yelling fire!!
> That, or "BOMB!!!"...

Both those things sound TOTALLY EXTREME! Slam back a Dew my brothers, it's
time to go Sky Surfing!

It's just the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight..

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Howdy'yall I'za new ta dis hur list an wuz wondrin' if there was an easier way
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Mushgroove's Annual Return To Hardcore Chicago is this Saturday. 
773-509-6869.  
U can't help but tripp over there big ass flyers in all the stores around 
Chicago. I was at the one last year... no comment.
-Robby C in the mix


<< What parties are going on this weekend in Chicago? None of the websites 
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No fair, I wanna be tied up n whipped  :(
-Stumps

whendee mesich wrote:

> I had no clue who you guys were talking about till i saw him in a preview
> tonight and put his face to his name ...id do him...but only if i can tie
> him up and whip him first :)
> whendee
>
> >hahahah....i found the ben affleck lighter!  hahah laura..no one stole it
> >you freak...you left him in my jacket pocket...hahah...=)
> >
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This place has got the Hardcore Chicago info posted for those who may need 
it...

http://www.nodal.com

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 16:36:38 1999
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> > That was his MC---MC ADB
>
> Yeah but word on the streets is that ADB is actually Spree. After all,
most
> DJs MC for themselves, right? :). Personally, I like to get on the mic and
> yell out "LIGHTAH!!!!" right when the bassline drops...  People love it
when
> I do it, especially when theres no music playing.
>
> LIGHTAH!

or better yet just yell 'SCOOOTAH' whenever the cheese euro-pop stops and
get a record contract....

*---<|:D


ok thats lame i admit it.


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Where exactly can I find a virtual slap to send to u???

Pixie wrote:

> ok, I had this 7 page e-mail all ready to send....and you know what, i just
> can't do it.
>
> to everyone i met and saw again: brandon, doug, amy, jordan, tracey, s00zi,
> mikey, giles, prdf, jason, gip, misha, lora, lauryn, sarge, dan, lance,
> stan, awol, bob,  brian, nick, derek, jason's family, sean, craig, the kids
> from colorado (ross and rachel), the kids from the east coast, trout, stevie
> t (yep i saw you, hope you had a good time) jj, the angels, millie, james b,
> james again ( i'm not kidding, i'll kick yer ass) the irc mw raves ops,
> gawd, i'm forgetting seven billion people...if i forgot you, e-mail me a
> virtual slap and i will remember, robin, all the kindred groove kids i met
> sunday night while you were walking around with your shirts on, dica, kurt
> (i saw you walk by, but you were too fast for me to flash you), rick, erin,
> john, the guy who spun ambient in the chill dome sunday afternoon...forgot
> your name, and everyone else who was there and made the weekend wonderful...
>
> and my tres...who finally showed up friday and calmed my severe separation
> anxiety
>
> thank you all!! and it couldn't have happened without the little
> people...thanks little people!!!
>
> if you were there, you know...if you weren't, you're sick of hearing about
> it....
>
> much love and respect to each and every one of you...and many many respects
> and love also to jason and jj for loving us enough to provide the
> opportunity for all of us to make it happen, and providing the money to pay
> for it ;) or something like that...y'all know what i'm trying to say
> pixie
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dammit!!!

you're one of the little people, i didn't forget you ;)

> Where exactly can I find a virtual slap to send to u???



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just wanted to say thanks to j-sun and jj for throwing such a great
birthday party for me this past weekend. and for those of you who
attended...i thank you as well. i had a great time...even tho i didn't get
any PRESENTS! 

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(sorry if this is a repeat...)

can someone tell me where this event is?

The stupid cow on 314-848-BASS just acts like everyone should know =
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 16:55:28 1999
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Does anyone have any info about a party in louisville friday.  I have
heard rumors about it, but don't know where, how much, whos spinnin,
etc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 16:59:55 1999
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WTF I cant understnd a word of this, am I getting that old?


>From: "nik" <jkeat@infinet.com>
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>Howdy'yall I'za new ta dis hur list an wuz wondrin' if there was an easier 
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--------------------
SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 11TH, GRAND RAPIDS, MI
p616.com presents...

enjoy!

DJ DAZY - House - LOS ANGELES
TOM SMITH - Jack House - Battle Creek
DJ JD - CCTech - Lansing
OP-MODE - Hard House - Holland
GREG RAPIER - House/Techno - GR

10pm-6am

This is an Intimate, Limited Capacity Event (250) so buy pre-sale, or come
early!

Pre-sale tickets are $12 / $16 at the door
Pre-sale's are available at the Hip Hut (Grand Rapids) and Wave
Transmissions (Lansing)

VENUE:  The party will be at 10 WESTON (Downtown Grand Rapids) -call info
line or check p616.com the day of event for detailed directions

SOUND:  Ample sound for the cozy 100+ capacity dance floor :)

NINTENDO VIDEO PROJECTION:  For all you Power Players out there, we'll have
an old-school Nintendo hooked up and projected on the dance floor wall for
your viewing and playing enjoyment!

INFO: 616/752-8202
WEB: http://p616.com
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>WTF I cant understnd a word of this, am I getting that old?


>>Howdy'yall I'za new ta dis hur list an wuz wondrin' if there was an easier
>>way
>>to keep up on raves going on in muh area wif out havin' muh mailbox
>>flooded?


    dood's juz makin' wit da jive talk yo, all the kids are doin' it, you
want to be like all the other kids, don't you? c'mon, get with it!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:05:16 1999
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Hey, go to Liquidskymusic.com, it's one of my favorites. All kinds or samples
in real audio of all their shit. Soul slinger helps compile all of those
liquid sky jungle compilations of which "fuck jungle" is one of. This shit is
the dopest jungle in the world. The DJ wally track on that disc has to be one
of the hardest. I know lots of record stores that get liquid sky vinyl but the
workers usually snatch it up on the day that they receive their shipments. Try
liquid sky... i think they ship their rare vinyl at a fee, or have someone
press it yourself. Small price to pay for jungle like this.
"ohhhh shit, im in love with the motherfuckers".        phil

DreamSequence wrote:

> Hey, anyone seen copies of tracks from "Fuck Jungle".  I can't remember
> what number in the series the CD was, but I want a couple from it.  One is
> called "9mm" I think... mostly cuz the sample goes:
> "The only fuckin' peace(piece)
>  The only fuckin' peace
>  The only fuckin peace they understand is 9 mother-fuckin' millimeter"
>
> And a few others.  Some are by DJ Wally I know, but I've never seen any of
> them on Vinyl.
>
> Cheerio!
>
> Kale/DreamSequence
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:07:01 1999
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Then again....I'm not one of those wack little kids...you want references??? 
I got em....don't spread stuff unless you know what your talking about...

dylan
strung out productions


>From: "daisy raves" <daisyraves21@hotmail.com>
>To: ddorrell@hotmail.com, stl-raves@egroups.com, kc-raves@egroups.com,  
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>Subject: Re: [mtn-raves] KC area promoter needs Mixtapes
>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 23:23:59 MDT
>
>I dunno but this sounds like a desperate cry for mixtapes..
>I know too many whack little kids on the puter who say  they're promoters
>and try to get tapes from anyone they can...
>
>haha
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "dylan dorrell" <ddorrell@hotmail.com>
>>To: stl-raves@egroups.com, kc-raves@egroups.com, mtn-raves@hyperreal.org,
>>mw-raves@hyperreal.org, mo-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [mtn-raves] KC area promoter needs Mixtapes
>>Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:21:23 PDT
>>
>>hey all you supastar dj's out there...I want YOU to play in KC... however 
>>I
>>need to hear your shit first...send me tapes to show me what you got...I
>>enjoy all styles of electronic music and alway give good words about tapes
>>I
>>like to other Promoters in the area...
>>
>>hook me up and I'll try to do the same for you...
>>
>>word...
>>dylan dorrell
>>strung out productions
>>1001 s. cedar box 433
>>ottawa, ks 66067
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:28:58 1999
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i'll be there. hope to see you all partying your ass's
off. 
~ian~ =)

--- Vachon Pugh <pbcheese@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone was going to Deja Vu this
> Saturday in Columbus, I'd 
> like to meet some of you guys :-) And if anyone
> lives around Ohio State 
> University any would like to show an incoming
> freshman around the campus, 
> let me know!! This is my last rave before I start
> college, so I want to make 
> it special :-)
> 
> 
> Spaz

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:33:27 1999
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We are looking for someone to do the Comin From Tha D tour in the Midwest
(Not Chicago, MN,or Milw) during the month of October.

DJ Godfather
DJ Assault

and you can pick from these cats (depending on the date)

Keith Tucker
Adult.
Terrence Parker
Sean Deason
Shake
Ectomorph

Let me know,

Jon Layne
Area Code Management
248.738.1070 fon
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:34:32 1999
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Another well thought out, articulate and thought provoking e-mail?
FUCK THAT... this is mw-raves, after all.

So, today I:

	1.  woke up to the blaring of my alarm for the second morning
	    in a row. FUCK SCHOOL.

	2.  ate some honeycomb, showered, got dressed, grabbed my bag
	    and my walkman while running out the door to catch
	    the bus.

	3.  Rode the bus up to north campus for Discrete Structures
	    (doesn't that make you cringe?).

	4.  bopped my head to Tilz's Nice Shoes the whole way.  Wicked
	    acid.

	5.  Walk in to class and wonder if someone is fucking with
	    me.  I see 303 in 4 foot tall letters on the board.  Then
	    I realize it's the course number.

	6.  I start laughing uncontrollably at the irony.

	7.  Pocket-protector toting compu-geeks shoot me dirty looks
	
	8.  I sit down and shut up.

If that's not enough, I just opened pine to check my mail.  What does
it tell me?  "Folder INBOX opened with 303 messages"  

spooky

one love,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:40:37 1999
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isn't that a strip club?  Now that's a good place for a party.  Think of
how much money the girls would make on lap dances from all the little
rollin raver bois

Ian wrote:

> i'll be there. hope to see you all partying your ass's
> off.
> ~ian~ =)
>
> --- Vachon Pugh <pbcheese@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Just wondering if anyone was going to Deja Vu this
> > Saturday in Columbus, I'd
> > like to meet some of you guys :-) And if anyone
> > lives around Ohio State
> > University any would like to show an incoming
> > freshman around the campus,
> > let me know!! This is my last rave before I start
> > college, so I want to make
> > it special :-)
> >
> >
> > Spaz
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:42:31 1999
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ok
so i'm driving to the big BK for lunch today and a thought occured to me.
what the fuck is up with the 'detroit lean'?  u know - seat at a 12 degree
angle to the floor, right arm completely cradling the top 1/2 of the
steering wheel, and head leaning so far to the left its hanging out the
window....
maybe someone from detroit can expain this to me, but i just dont
understand.  do u LIKE the feel of bugs stuck between your teeth or wut?  is
it just fun to drive 75mph stick yer head out the window and pretend to be
in a hurricane?
or maybe i have it wrong... is there like a 'new york lean' or a 'san
francisco lean'?  wuts the differance then?
oh wait now i'm scared.  since i'm from grand rapids i must inherently have
a 'grand rapids lean' right?  that mean if i drive into detroit lean
territory will i get my shit tagged or punked?

all for the love of wasting time:
always in search of useless facts to know and yell......especially at
work....


btw this isnt ment to offend detroit kids or something, but it IS called
detroit lean for *some* reason....   =D


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 17:49:38 1999
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> or maybe i have it wrong... is there like a 'new york lean' or a 'san
> francisco lean'?  wuts the differance then?

there isn't one...they are all collectively known as "pimpin the seat" or "
the whitebread g-thug lean" or " let's laugh at the white boy cause he looks
ridiculous driving his car" lean

i often wonder if these people realize just how much the rest of the world
is laughing at them...i mean, they have to, right? even sitcoms make fun of
them....but yet they persist in dressing/acting that way

i guess maybe that means they are truly underground?
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 18:04:06 1999
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teehee...no it wasn't...it was evil spree in the flesh...wanted to get the 
crowd goin'..

adb was no present...

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actually, one of the Lexington guys got married a couple of years
back and we took him to that strip club.....

they made alot of money that night :)  

PS - everyone was sober....
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|isn't that a strip club?  Now that's a good place for a party.
 Think of
|how much money the girls would make on lap dances from all the
little
|rollin raver bois
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 18:13:04 1999
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I still can't fuckin get over how much fun I had at I.D. next year I'm gonna 
have to make it a point to get to know all of you fucks...
anyway...thats all I have to say except this...dica...GO RAVE...

plur
please leave underwear reaking

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if not I hear you can by them cheap as fuck by the dozen down at the 
bakery...

rave sober you drug infested pukes...
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God, go to the southend of louisville and everyones got the whiteboy g-funk lean
goin on.  I tried to drive like that once and almost wrecked, it is hard as
hell.  An artform even.
Stumpman

defunkt wrote:

> ok
> so i'm driving to the big BK for lunch today and a thought occured to me.
> what the fuck is up with the 'detroit lean'?  u know - seat at a 12 degree
> angle to the floor, right arm completely cradling the top 1/2 of the
> steering wheel, and head leaning so far to the left its hanging out the
> window....
> maybe someone from detroit can expain this to me, but i just dont
> understand.  do u LIKE the feel of bugs stuck between your teeth or wut?  is
> it just fun to drive 75mph stick yer head out the window and pretend to be
> in a hurricane?
> or maybe i have it wrong... is there like a 'new york lean' or a 'san
> francisco lean'?  wuts the differance then?
> oh wait now i'm scared.  since i'm from grand rapids i must inherently have
> a 'grand rapids lean' right?  that mean if i drive into detroit lean
> territory will i get my shit tagged or punked?
>
> all for the love of wasting time:
> always in search of useless facts to know and yell......especially at
> work....
>
> btw this isnt ment to offend detroit kids or something, but it IS called
> detroit lean for *some* reason....   =D
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----- Original Message -----
From: TRUNKalicious <trunkout@yahoo.com>

> REVIEW MY GOD DAMN TRACKS OR I WON'T SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

Trunk Steppah:  i was told to turn this track down because it gave the tech
next to me a headache!!!!! Great job!!!! you win the cowboy deejays highest
award!  the "can you  please turn that down, people can't hear their games"
award.  This award was born when the cowboy dj posse played at a network
gaming party, and the promoter made me turn down the system during arno's
set.

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>Subject: Re: [mw] WHO'S GOING TO DEJA VU?
> isn't that a strip club?
--
yup. there's one in kalamazoo. in one of the rooms, the girls are on a 6
inch stage like an arms length away from the audience, totally naked, and
they play this game where they stick their butts up in the air and you toss
crumpled up bills in an attempt to hit their bungholes. age limit is 18 and
up...pervs, check it out.
gosh, i sure am glad that i'm not into such sick and depraved activities.

gotta go read the bible now.
.
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ha.  a whole subject line and not a single complete word.

does anybody know of any sets that are up on the web that have mc-ing over
them, but are NOT jungle?  and it would have to be GOOD mc-ing, not just
some random dood yelling random stuff every once in a while.
i have to prove that austrian mc's suck.
**doris**

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 I'm big on shouting   RIDDIM or BLOD CLOT
or if yer really wasted shout CHEWBACCA, noone can understand it anyway and
it sure is fun.

"Atreu ." wrote:

> >LIGHTAH!
>
> WOOOO!!!!  YEAHHHHH!!!!
>
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> tres
> .... who made who?
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maybe if you spun nail bomb gabber, the stuff that makes ya wanna chomp on 
nails and jack off with a fistfull of broken glass, you could have a peace 
of my ass.

*hugz*
jesse/slut

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From: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
Hello, my name is Misha.
I have been observing the behavioral patterns of a certain happy
hardcore dj this past weekend at ID (don't tell him I said this but his
name is Spree), and I was amazed by the amount of candy ass that hegets.
Therefore I have decided that while I still love trance it is getting
me nowhere as far as getting laid which basically destroys the whole
purpose of why I even began dj'ing. That is why I am switching to
spinning happy hardcore. My dj name will be TsAr-E-o. Look for me at a
friendly candy ass party near u :)Misha
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>maybe if you spun nail bomb gabber, the stuff that makes ya wanna chomp on
>nails and jack off with a fistfull of broken glass, you could have a peace
>of my ass.
>
>*hugz*
>jesse/slut


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....I may never stop laughing.....I'm gonna start 
spinning THAT shit.....then maybe I'll get laid.... 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....and even if I don't thats still the 
funniest fucking thing I have read in a ling time.....
I luve Gabber

dylan

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y is it all i can picture is that little shooting star going across the
screen and the words...'the more u know'...sung to a gay ass jingle?  u know
wut i mean...

i think its time people learn how dumb they are.  i'm gonna make it a point
to stop all seat pimp-ers of the detroit variety [not to b confused with
male prostitutes] and tell them how dumb they look.

3 guesses on how fast it'll take to get my ass shot at?

....hiding out in the safety of my -=ghetto-free=- workplace....

> i often wonder if these people realize just how much the rest of the world
> is laughing at them...i mean, they have to, right? even sitcoms make fun
of
> them....but yet they persist in dressing/acting that way



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In a message dated 9/9/99 11:28:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dpayer@umich.edu 
writes:

<< does anybody know of any sets that are up on the web that have mc-ing over
 them, but are NOT jungle?  and it would have to be GOOD mc-ing, not just
 some random dood yelling random stuff every once in a while.
 i have to prove that austrian mc's suck.
 **doris**
 
 (if there isn't anything up online, does anybody have a tape they wanna
 copy for me?)
  >>

me

http://www.angelfire.com/il/sigidysick

go to mc'ing... and check the realaudio... all hip hop freestyles from yours 
truly.

i don't know if you'd consider them good... but its my hip hop shit... and 
its not random shouts... its actual text

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what's the matter with puttin a little lean into yo drivin?  heheh...i
like to stick my foot out the window while i drive...of course you gotta
lean waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in yer seat to do that too though...heheh

as ghetto as i wanna be...
lauryn 


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Hello Everyone!  

Gary G - dj Legal Alien here ( please send any replies to this email to
djLegalAlien@yahoo.com)

After weeks of hard work, planning and slaving at the
computer (thanks Adam S. for the artwork), I'm finally
proud to announce the release of my brand new mix
CD!!!

This is a full length continuous mix (73min).  Jazzy
and upbeat jungle with some suprises to definitely get
your ass moving.

You can check out two 10 minute samples of the mix at
http://members.xoom.com/LegalAlien/djinfo.html
These samples are in Real Audio G2 format.

Please email me (djLegalAlien@yahoo.com) if you wish 
to receive a copy. I'm not charging very much for these, 
only enough to cover my expenses.

The same site also has all my booking info, as well as
the list of the parties I'll be playing in the future,
and past bookings.

If you're local to Detroit, Please come out on
September 24th to S.T.R.O.B.E. and support local DJs. 
This event is only $10, and I'll be headlining with an
extended 2 hour set from 11:30pm - 1:30am.  This will be
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Peace and Respect
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>
> actually, one of the Lexington guys got married a couple of years
> back and we took him to that strip club.....
>
> they made alot of money that night :)
>

sorry to disappoint you guys but the party will not be at a 'gentleman's
club'.  ;)

however, any ladies wishing to dance with their titties hanging out for
folded up fliers instead of dollar bills can come to my house afterwards for
an after-hours.  age limit of 17, please.

here's a hint on the venue tho:  bring plenty of quarters!
muwahahaha

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I haven't lived in Detroit for 6 years so I'm curious.......

what ever happened to Esham? you know the sadistic satanic red wearin 
rapper.

just wunderin

pussy ain't got no face

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I also wonder what is up with the "lean."  But don't forget how they gotta 
hang their head out the window and lean on one hand partially covering your 
face as to remain "mysterious"- hell, they're hiding the rest of their body, 
why not their face??  Then you get the look like, "I know you lookin at me 
cuz I'm bad but I'm just gonna hide my face in my hand and look away cuz I'm 
a bad ass mo'fo' and who cares what kinda car I'm in!!"   LOL

No offense,
  curlycue

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> > or maybe i have it wrong... is there like a 'new york lean' or a 'san
> > francisco lean'?  wuts the differance then?
>
>there isn't one...they are all collectively known as "pimpin the seat" or "
>the whitebread g-thug lean" or " let's laugh at the white boy cause he 
>looks
>ridiculous driving his car" lean
>
>i often wonder if these people realize just how much the rest of the world
>is laughing at them...i mean, they have to, right? even sitcoms make fun of
>them....but yet they persist in dressing/acting that way
>
>i guess maybe that means they are truly underground?
>pixie
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> I also wonder what is up with the "lean."  But don't forget how they gotta
> hang their head out the window and lean on one hand partially covering
your
> face as to remain "mysterious"- hell, they're hiding the rest of their
body,
> why not their face??  Then you get the look like, "I know you lookin at me
> cuz I'm bad but I'm just gonna hide my face in my hand and look away cuz
I'm
> a bad ass mo'fo' and who cares what kinda car I'm in!!"   LOL

oh dont forget about the ghetto 'i'm listening to something and all i can
hear is the bass' head bob, and possibly the 'raise the roof' arm geasture
to tha g's on the street corner.

well i think the hiding the face with the hand part has a good explanation -
they're all hardened criminals so they have to conceal their identity from
the everyday schmo who might turn them in.  that and they have to hide their
face when they're driving **SOMEONE ELSE'S CAR**%^$$#)%#)*&%^#(*^&%$

....still pissed bout some mofo stealin my car in detroit....


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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:
> there isn't one...they are all collectively known as "pimpin the seat" or "
> the whitebread g-thug lean" or " let's laugh at the white boy cause he looks
> ridiculous driving his car" lean

I've always referred to it as "pimp-tiltin" your seat...  That's just the
phrase my brother always used to describe it...  I even wrote a song
called "pimptilt."

I often have to pimp tilt my seat since I'm 6'7"+ and I don't fit in a lot
of cars too well... :)

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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Trevor Lamont wrote:
> Does anyone know which list covers Arkansas?

The freak-with-your-cousin-raves list. :)  Just kidding..  I believe
there's an se-raves...  Go to http://www.hyperreal.org/raves and check it
out.

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And let's not fergit "Hypah hypaaaah!"
Ah yes, the good ol' days, when it wasn't cheezy to be cheezy... ok, maybe
mildly... like a light cheddar or swiss.
Kale

> 
> or better yet just yell 'SCOOOTAH' whenever the cheese euro-pop stops and
> get a record contract....
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i named the shortcut on my desktop to hyperterminal "hypa hypaaaa!"

=j

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:

> And let's not fergit "Hypah hypaaaah!"
> Ah yes, the good ol' days, when it wasn't cheezy to be cheezy... ok, maybe
> mildly... like a light cheddar or swiss.
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********** <A 
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Friday September 10th in Chicago
by future forces
1-847-604-0579 / 1-414-297-9587
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featuring dj's:
LION nyc
first chicago appearance layin down some serious 
dubplate buisness!

DJ FUNK chicago
celebrating his brand new release 
"BOOTY HOUSE ANTHEMS" free giveaways!

DJ 3D vs DELTA 9
for the first time ever, a tag team hard house set
to shake up the crowd a bit

KEVIN CUNNINGHAM vs KID ENTROPY
and you thought danny could scratch, just wait
till you hear this cleveland native rip shit up
battling it out on the decks with some tough ass
drum and bass

VICTOR OROZCO
a future forces resident from milwaukee on the
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JERRY SANCHEZ
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full scale venue, full scale sound, full scale lights!
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This guy is the shit!  Someone should definetly check him out.  I got his new 
tape... "Burning Your Undies"  It's pretty dope.  It's like Speed Metal meets 
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from: FUTURE FORCES (ftrforces@aol.com) 
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we've gone monthly with our future forces events and we're always looking to 
bring in differet dj's and acts. we're currently booking for december and on. 
if you have any easy to book (agents are so hard to deal with) dj's that are 
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BrotherlyLuv@incest.org

EEEEE HE HE HE HE HEEEE!

Kale/DreamSequence

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    I haven't seen anything new by him or Natas in years.

   "Slit your wrists drink an orange juice."

   Damn, I miss that shit.

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

> I haven't lived in Detroit for 6 years so I'm curious.......
> 
> what ever happened to Esham? you know the sadistic satanic red wearin 
> rapper.
> 
> just wunderin
> 
> pussy ain't got no face
> 
> ricA
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 13:51:02 -0400
From: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>

>isn't that a strip club?  Now that's a good place for a party.  Think of
>how much money the girls would make on lap dances from all the little
>rollin raver bois


hahaha yeah there's one down the street from me.  lots of nasty skank ho's
shakin around their tiny lil titties.  i heard some chick tossed her
panties across the room and hit some guy in the face... a couple of days
later he had to go to a clinic with a case of herpes.

ewww

zod/let me see dat pussy pop!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 21:24:41 1999
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I hope not....drugs are against the law....THE LAW DAMN YOU...if you got any 
of those drugs them EAT THEM!!!! the LAW will be after you and you don't 
want any evidence do you???

ravers suck
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Superstars of Love's Millenia Anxiety Variety Show
Thursday September 30th in St. Louis featuring The Chemical Brothers
Live in concert performing their ass-kickin southern Rock n Roll show
also playing will be the All Time High Experience(sex/freakshow),the Midwest 
Avengers and dj's James Holroyd, Bodaleg, and Stan Doublin.
This is no ordinary rock n roll tour date!  The venue is an old haunted 
theatre, plus amazing visuals, & performance artist TJ Richter

SPOOKS IN SPACE Halloween Thrill Orgy Saturday Oct. 30th
Carl Craig - Planet E Detroit
Sandra Collins - Twilo NYC
Nitro - Better Days Kansass City
Bodaleg - Boogie Knights Stl
Stan Doublin - Kingred Groove
More info to be announced...
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Saturday, Sept. 11 in Cleveland, OH
The Future Consortium brings you..

FUTURE SHOCK

with:

Dr. Trance
Bagadonuts
Sine
HeSoHi
Tr-Generation
Jason Alias

And in the TFC room..

Lemon Lyman
Bagel
Hubajube
Woojay
1-Auxy
G-13

$15, $10 if you attend the Madura Fest earlier that day..
For more information, call the TFC infoline at 216-491-2187
http://futureconsortium.com

Live Netcast brought to you by the Chemlab
This broadcast will be in mp3 format, so WinAmp or XMMS or a comparable mp3
player will be needed to listen!
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hope to see ya there..

-steve

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On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, jon dica! wrote:

> >i don't normally review mixtapes
> 
> and i hafta concur.. this tape fucking ROCKS.  hard, banging minimal techno 
> stuff, some bleepy, some deeper stuff.  it flows a lot like richie's set at 
> ID.  relentlessly assaulting you to the bitter end.  come back from boston, 
> beeyotch!

it's funny...right in the middle of richie's set, peter was like...hey
matt, throw away all those tapes i just gave you...this is *the* stuff
that rocks (or words to that effect). well, all i can say is fuck
you...your tape made my week! i've seriously listened to it like 10 times.
i'd suggest to all you MW rug-rats that you hunt a copy down...  

gonna come back for a positive thursdays peter?

matt


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>or if yer really wasted shout CHEWBACCA, noone can understand it anyway and 
>it sure is fun.


"WHAT A WOOKIE!"


tres
... berserker!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 21:52:12 1999
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I am trying to get a lil' ol' club going here..

What I have is a venue in central, il. that will house 800 people. What I 
need is a sound system that I can rent along with lighting. Anyone help me 
out.. I imagine that 10-30,000 watts would more than pump this place. It has 
two levels,(so two different rooms). The second room already has sound 
installed.. Anyone who could quote me some figures and or offer me some 
suggestions would rate real high in my book my favors to return..

  Love to all

  DAN SHARP (0_o)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 21:53:23 1999
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Wow, that letter made me have to go to the bathroom with a handful of
broken glass. You are the girl of my dreams. Will you join with me in
unholy matrimony?

Matt Demmon

look for my next tape, full of Six-Sixty-Six stuff and DOORMOUSE's rectum

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Jesse Settle wrote:

> maybe if you spun nail bomb gabber, the stuff that makes ya wanna chomp on 
> nails and jack off with a fistfull of broken glass, you could have a peace 
> of my ass.
> 
> *hugz*
> jesse/slut
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> From: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
> Hello, my name is Misha.
> I have been observing the behavioral patterns of a certain happy
> hardcore dj this past weekend at ID (don't tell him I said this but his
> name is Spree), and I was amazed by the amount of candy ass that hegets.
> Therefore I have decided that while I still love trance it is getting
> me nowhere as far as getting laid which basically destroys the whole
> purpose of why I even began dj'ing. That is why I am switching to
> spinning happy hardcore. My dj name will be TsAr-E-o. Look for me at a
> friendly candy ass party near u :)Misha
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any1 know where i can find some? ive got a bunch if any1 wants to put them on 
there site




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Yo motherfucker, where's my cut of the pie? I made that line up, you got
to PAY THE PRICE when you use my lines.

Matt

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, dylan dorrell wrote:

> I hope not....drugs are against the law....THE LAW DAMN YOU...if you got any 
> of those drugs them EAT THEM!!!! the LAW will be after you and you don't 
> want any evidence do you???
> 
> ravers suck
> dylan
> rave sober you schmucks
> 
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tsia

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 21:58:08 1999
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DJ DAN.
SCOTT HENRY
PAUL VAN DYK
TALL PAUL
or
DOC MARTIN.

Any help would be appreciated..


Thanks and love to all

  Dan Sharp (0_o)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 22:01:02 1999
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Neener neener neener, I got to see him play twice in Urbana last thursday.
Once was techno on 3 turntables. I sat on the speaker and watched. It was
fun. I'm going to stop pestering the list with mindless garbage now.

Matt

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Matt Positive wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Sep 1999, jon dica! wrote:
> 
> > >i don't normally review mixtapes
> > 
> > and i hafta concur.. this tape fucking ROCKS.  hard, banging minimal techno 
> > stuff, some bleepy, some deeper stuff.  it flows a lot like richie's set at 
> > ID.  relentlessly assaulting you to the bitter end.  come back from boston, 
> > beeyotch!
> 
> it's funny...right in the middle of richie's set, peter was like...hey
> matt, throw away all those tapes i just gave you...this is *the* stuff
> that rocks (or words to that effect). well, all i can say is fuck
> you...your tape made my week! i've seriously listened to it like 10 times.
> i'd suggest to all you MW rug-rats that you hunt a copy down...  
> 
> gonna come back for a positive thursdays peter?
> 
> matt
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 22:05:33 1999
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no you aren't, don't lie


> Neener neener neener, I got to see him play twice in Urbana last thursday.
> Once was techno on 3 turntables. I sat on the speaker and watched. It was
> fun. I'm going to stop pestering the list with mindless garbage now.
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first learn how to fucking speak correctly so that we might have the
patience to read your damn e-mail.

--- nik <jkeat@infinet.com> wrote:
> Howdy'yall I'za new ta dis hur list an wuz wondrin'
> if there was an easier way
> to keep up on raves going on in muh area wif out
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Its at the Babylon Club on Washinton, the address is 1521 Washington
ST, its on the flier if you would pay attention.

--- Aaron Stigberg <Aaron_Stigberg@ama-assn.org> wrote:
> (sorry if this is a repeat...)
> 
> can someone tell me where this event is?
> 
> The stupid cow on 314-848-BASS just acts like
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 22:16:26 1999
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Oh, don't bother even writing anything to Peter, Matt, I dogged him for
all 5 days he was back, cuz he NEVER friggin writes.  Tried to chalk it up
as he has to work so hard.
Ya right, 60 hour work week?  Pshaaa, childs play!

hee

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so i'm looking for a new job and i heard there might need for a
mw-raves-list-ho.  i was wondering what the job duties include, how much it 
pays, and if it means i get to have misha suck my dick?

please direct all comments towards my ass.

thank you

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If you were wondering what city, its in St. Louis, it doesn't say that
on the flier, sorry my bad!

--- Aaron Stigberg <Aaron_Stigberg@ama-assn.org> wrote:
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> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 22:35:12 1999
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from what I heard, the only member who's still with the band it Axl,
and the rest of the band is going to consist of the former touring band
of Trent Resnor (his first one), and that GNR is going to be an
industrial band now.  I don't know if this is absolutely true, but the
person who told this to me said it with a straight face.

--- chris ege <crege@students.wisc.edu> wrote:
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> >From: Dolomite91@aol.com
> >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:56:49 EDT
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> >Guns n' Roses' first studio track in six years, "Oh
> My God," will be
> featured 
> >in a commercial for the science-fiction movie "End
> of Days,"
> >The song is expected to appear on the soundtrack to
> the film and on an 
> >upcoming GNR album, which is as yet untitled and
> has no release date. The 
> >soundtrack, also due in November, will feature a
> new song from rap-rockers 
> >Limp Bizkit, too,
> >
> >fuck yeah, i can't wait!!!!!!
> >
> >oh, wait, yes, i can
> >
> >hehehe, later
> >mike.m.
> >http://members.xoom.com/spork_recs/mikem.htm
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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jesse's my kinda woman too.  plus he gives a good reach-around.
and he looks bad ass when guarding your little furthur camp with a big ol
hockey stick.
http://poofin.com/arno/havesome%20hamsteakLF99.jpg

     -the logo i sport is the face of the monkey
     -bill
     - smooveb@asapnet.net

----- Original Message -----
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> Wow, that letter made me have to go to the bathroom with a handful of
> broken glass. You are the girl of my dreams. Will you join with me in
> unholy matrimony?
>
> Matt Demmon
>
> look for my next tape, full of Six-Sixty-Six stuff and DOORMOUSE's rectum
>
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Jesse Settle wrote:
>
> > maybe if you spun nail bomb gabber, the stuff that makes ya wanna chomp
on
> > nails and jack off with a fistfull of broken glass, you could have a
peace
> > of my ass.
> >
> > *hugz*
> > jesse/slut
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 22:53:56 1999
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arno and i need someone to carry our rekkids to center st. days this
saturday.  and to pick us up when we fall down at the barn party later that
evening (we fall down a lot.)   i believe you are qualified, provided you
don't start fallin down yerself.

     -the logo i sport is the face of the monkey
     -bill
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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [mw] nrr: i need a job


> so i'm looking for a new job and i heard there might need for a
> mw-raves-list-ho.  i was wondering what the job duties include, how much
it
> pays, and if it means i get to have misha suck my dick?




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 09 22:54:42 1999
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<if you didn't know, stickman and i printed those yes!
<and built-in bra stickers. we are very proud.

Hey, where can I get some of those YES stickers?  I've been to both Forever
After and A New Beginning and both times got covered with those.  :)  
I think it's time to make a modification tho....
you should make stickers that say ASS and then stickers that say TITS!!!
or BOOB!!!

yes, Tres, help me out on this one, BooBs really do make the world go
round!!! 0 0

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Jungle Sky sux
Soul Slinger can eat a dick
DJ Wally bites nutz
nuf said!

--- Phillip M Pompa <ac5861@wayne.edu> wrote:
> Hey, go to Liquidskymusic.com, it's one of my
> favorites. All kinds or samples
> in real audio of all their shit. Soul slinger helps
> compile all of those
> liquid sky jungle compilations of which "fuck
> jungle" is one of. This shit is
> the dopest jungle in the world. The DJ wally track
> on that disc has to be one
> of the hardest. I know lots of record stores that
> get liquid sky vinyl but the
> workers usually snatch it up on the day that they
> receive their shipments. Try
> liquid sky... i think they ship their rare vinyl at
> a fee, or have someone
> press it yourself. Small price to pay for jungle
> like this.
> "ohhhh shit, im in love with the motherfuckers".    
>    phil
> 
> DreamSequence wrote:
> 
> > Hey, anyone seen copies of tracks from "Fuck
> Jungle".  I can't remember
> > what number in the series the CD was, but I want a
> couple from it.  One is
> > called "9mm" I think... mostly cuz the sample
> goes:
> > "The only fuckin' peace(piece)
> >  The only fuckin' peace
> >  The only fuckin peace they understand is 9
> mother-fuckin' millimeter"
> >
> > And a few others.  Some are by DJ Wally I know,
> but I've never seen any of
> > them on Vinyl.
> >
> > Cheerio!
> >
> > Kale/DreamSequence
> >
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no dick sucking, but he will lick your balls for you.

--- "Atreu ." <atreu3@hotmail.com> wrote:
> so i'm looking for a new job and i heard there might
> need for a
> mw-raves-list-ho.  i was wondering what the job
> duties include, how much it 
> pays, and if it means i get to have misha suck my
> dick?
> 
> please direct all comments towards my ass.
> 
> thank you
> 
> tres
> ...
> 
> "You wouldn't know a subtle plan if it painted
> itself purple
> and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing
> 'Subtle
> Plans Are Here Again'"
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>>
>No fair, I wanna be tied up n whipped  :(
>-Stumps
>


Well come to ww2 and maybe if your naughty enough youll get your
wish ;)

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i need the URL for WTW2, ASAP.
TTFN.
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http://www.angelfire.com/ma/distort/wtw.html

or in jive:

http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=jive&url=http%3A%2F%2F
www.angelfire.com%2Fma%2Fdistort%2Fwtw.html

     -the logo i sport is the face of the monkey
     -bill
     - smooveb@asapnet.net

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> i need the URL for WTW2, ASAP.
> TTFN.
> .
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--- "Atreu ." <atreu3@hotmail.com> wrote:
> so i'm looking for a new job and i heard there might
> need for a
> mw-raves-list-ho.  i was wondering what the job
> duties include, how much it 
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> dick?
> 

Misha sucks pretty much any dick that he can get his slutty ass lips
on.

> please direct all comments towards my ass.
> 
> thank you
> 
> tres
> ...


How about i direct something else towards your ass? :)

Welcome

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joshua(ex victor house resident) told me he was throwin a party in
louiville this weekend... maybe thats the friday party??



On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:

> Does anyone have any info about a party in louisville friday.  I have
> heard rumors about it, but don't know where, how much, whos spinnin,
> etc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> -Stumps
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Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER? 
and why does that party this friday have to be 18+? just ignore all the 
little kids living in this town? AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a 
tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why? 
Freezing
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i didn't want to write my review of this tape yesterday cause everybody
else was, but now i just gotta say a few words.  out of the slew of tapes
I received at ID this is one of the top ones (even though I got a copy
MUCH earlier but couldn't listen to it cause SOMEONE won't send me the
tapes I forgot in their car [AHEM, BECKY!])  not only does it look
schnazzy, but is also very well-done quality-wise as well as mixing- and
track-selection-wise. there's some damn gorgeous tracks on there.  side a
consists of that pretty put-you-to-sleep trance i was talking about
yesterday -- i fell asleep while listening to it (that's not a bad thing
tho).  Side b doesn't lull you quite as much (it's a bit faster and harder
[more my style]) and includes some breaks here and there, which add a nice
touch of diversity to the tape.  it even has a track w/ vocals that sound
like they could be straight from an oldskool happycore track.  bahaha =P
 
so yeah, this one's for all the kids that are into the progressive/pretty
side of trance.  hit this kid up for a copy, and promoters, book the boy,
he deserves it.
**doris**



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carl mothafukkin craig....whoa...hmmmm...sounds like yet another trip to
stL for a halloween party...=) heheh bringin back the old tradition of stl
halloween trips...heheh....yes...i love it...

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Check this out,

''''''''''''''''''''www.hyperreal.org/armadillo/submerged




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I had written:
>Tip #4: Don't charge $25 for a rave in
>this city unless Squarepusher is playing.
>(Squarepusher, you know, the discohouse
>DJ from Madison?  I think he also goes
>by the name "Mr. S":P)

Somebody responded:
>>However a point of clarification MR.S is not squarepusher.
>>MR.S is a member of the unit and one of madison's secret weapons.

I'm glad somebody cleared this up for
me.  Here I was all summer thinking
I was seeing Squarepusher spinning
ghetto house at local $5 events... Is my
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In a message dated 9/9/99 7:55:13 PM Central Daylight Time, RaVeR1420@aol.com 
writes:

<< Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER? 

I'm loving it!  I absolutley am.  I went skating (boarding) yesterday after a 
really long shift at work and was just like "la la la la!!"  and the fact 
that I was wearing a hoodie not because I'm most comfortable in them, but 
because I really needed one thrilled me to death!!

AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a 
 tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why? 

Damn, which tape?  I think it's a little more than  50 cents though...   =P   
I think the least amount of money I've ever spent in that place was probably 
$15, and that was for a presale.  Lets see.. there were my $80 overalls..  my 
$60 pants..  blah blah blah..  Not a cheap place, period.

Freezing >>

Freezing and LOVING it!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 03:38:32 1999
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Hello all, I am new to this list.  I am having one hell of a time finding out 
about raves in the Twin Cities.  Do any of you know of any happeining anytime 
soon?  Thanks a lot people look forward to talking to all of you later.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 04:03:15 1999
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ummmm it's not craig who's MC'ing..it's some other d00d...<while craig's 
spinnin...the mc is hollaring "everybody dance to spree because your on 
Extascy> bwahahaha...but the mc is really cool as well as craig ;)
latah caroline"meatball"skillz

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 04:09:12 1999
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hell yeah there's parties here...me llamo caroline ;)....donde MPLS...yo 
quero taco bell...tu es ?? uhh i forgot i only talk 2 languages: english and 
bad english...but off to the casino for me to buy mama a new life =D...haha 
...email sometime and i'll give u the 411 on mpls 
=D caroline

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 04:23:44 1999
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> ummmm it's not craig who's MC'ing..it's some other d00d...<while craig's 
> spinnin...the mc is hollaring "everybody dance to spree because your on 
> Extascy> bwahahaha...but the mc is really cool as well as craig ;)
> latah caroline"meatball"skillz

jes' orignal post had to do with Spree MCing during our set at Dreamfest
on friday night. her comment was that he seemed to have mysteriously 
acquired an english accent...im pretty sure she's know's what an MC's
function is though...i've heard her complain about blackeye
enough...hahahah!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 05:31:48 1999
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>Hey, where can I get some of those YES stickers?  I've been to both Forever
>After and A New Beginning and both times got covered with those.  :)  


Doug from KC has a whole slew of them

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>@@TaeTiger@@ *feel the power of Dexomethorphan!*
>


and we've found a WINNER!!!!

you da man d00d

ricA

obviously he doesn't know what he's fucking with 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 06:28:14 1999
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--- Tad Ghostal <smooveb@asapnet.net> wrote:
> Trunk Steppah:  i was told to turn this track down
> because it gave the tech
> next to me a headache!!!!! Great job!!!! you win the
> cowboy deejays highest
> award

I get an award for that CRAP!!!
What is this world coming to?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 06:35:40 1999
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>Does anyone have any info about a party in louisville friday.  I have
>heard rumors about it, but don't know where, how much, whos spinnin,
>etc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>- -Stumps

There is a party by Sanctum Sound and/or Astroglide (I always get them
confused) Friday Night in Louisville. This party is the one that was moved
from a few weeks ago. The location should be the same place Kevin B. had his
party before Serenity by the 54 Lumber or whatever (off of bardstown rd.) I
don't know the info line and this information is Second Hand so if it's
wrong I'm sorry.

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--- RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> This guy is the shit

Um....OK.....

Damn....my tape is out already?
Damn bootleggers....

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 07:02:41 1999
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So, DJ Nickel did my review.....
I do his...
http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/technomonkey1.htm
is where ya find it.

Good track selection...but is that wreck about a 3rd a the
way through supposed ta be there? If not...sorry fer
pointin'!

I would have to say this is yer run a tha mill techno ravey
kinda stuff....makes ya wanna FUCK!!!!

So go and listen.

I ya still wanna review....go to mobass below.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 09:24:33 1999
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ender Wiggin wrote:

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>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Ender Wiggin wrote:
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>you posted this not once, but twice.
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i own this city..dammit!!!!!!!! well not really....it owns me!!!!!! i am just 
a little gal who conforms to society..working retail..to make ends meat...by 
the way i lost 90 bones at mystic =/....no meat on the table for me...maybe i 
should look up into veganism =O bwahaha...look me up sometime...i'm all ova 
the place..i'll be the one who's wearing meatballs in muh hair y0...
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Um... school is starting again, I really dont go to parties to often
anymore.  There are more important things in life  so....


goodbye.  

someday I may resub *shrug*


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 13:00:41 1999
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maybe this is pretty twisted, but durring this so called "ambient ending", a 
friend and i sat on the hill behind the main stage, watching the laser 
thingy (which was very cool and trippy) and talked about various ways to die 
in the lake, your tent, the woods, ect...
i think richie did it to us though....
ok, i admit it, it was very twisted....
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 13:43:53 1999
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We've been away for a month, but now we're back.

Djs Centrific
Arjay Ketamine
Dj Jevne

12:30 to 3:00
This event is to be 18+, but we're pretty flexible on this.
$5.00
downtown next to South Beach inbetween 3rd and 4th streets.
Thanks everyone for your support

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 13:47:06 1999
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>
>so who's goin' ta WTW this weekend?
>

not me...im sittin home in my non-muddy living rrom, watching movies with no 
mud in them....
not playing with mud...
**anti-mud-lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 13:49:39 1999
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if he plays anything like he talks, it cant be good....
i wanna hear this fukkin pussy trance...
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 13:50:57 1999
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ok..i'll admit it..i'm only reviewing this tape for misha because i feel 
sorry for him...

see..he's not getting any right now, and I figure by giving this tape a good 
review (read on) it will help him become a big name dj.  Soon (because of my 
review) he'll be as big as Oakenfold or Sasha and then he'll get all the 14 
year old action that he's soooo wanted for the past few years...

so anyway..the tape..

first..the basics...it's got a real nice cover, great sound quality, and a 
full tracklisting (dammit..every dj needs to put a track listing on their 
tapes)..

so what is it?

well it's a combo between progressive trance, and vocally progressive 
house..generally a bit lighter than what i normally listen to in trance, but 
dj tsar does this style justice...
the mixing is excellent, and the set programming is well done.  the tape 
shows that he has carefully selected his tracks to flow together quite 
nicely.  While it does flow between prog. trance and some vocal handbag 
stuff, it adds variety, and keeps the tape interesting from start to finish.

I've heard many progressive trance tapes where 1 side was really good and 
the other side (usually the second) bored the piss out of me...not so with 
this tape...both sides are very nicely done..

so how do you contact the crazy russian to get a copy of this tape?? his 
email addy is dj_tsar@yahoo.com

for those promoters out there...i saw him spin live at ID this past weekend, 
and his skills on the decks are just as good as those on the tape...he's not 
one of those djs who can't live up to the tapes he puts out- he definitely 
has the ability live...

ummm...finally..thanks to misha for the tape!!! :)

Dj Storm
Hard Trance/ Psychedelic Trance
Psychedelic Trance Liberation Front  Agent# 604
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>>hahahah....i found the ben affleck lighter!  hahah laura..no one stole it
>>you freak...you left him in my jacket pocket...hahah...=)

ok, i didnt leave ben anywhere....you stole him in a jelaous rage...
gawd lauryn...ill make you a ben lighter....you didnt have to steal mine....
=)
**lora**

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NRR

 

got it?


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At 11:37 PM 9/9/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Hello all, I am new to this list.  I am having one hell of a time finding
out 
>about raves in the Twin Cities.  Do any of you know of any happeining
anytime 
>soon?  Thanks a lot people look forward to talking to all of you later.
>
>
ZODIAK!!!
I don't want to post the info right now because I'm too lazy  :P 
but it's on the 25th.

ta ta,
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>arno and i need someone to carry our rekkids to center st. days this
>saturday.  and to pick us up when we fall down at the barn party later that
>evening (we fall down a lot.)   i believe you are qualified, provided you
>don't start fallin down yerself.


well that sucks, i fall down alot... but usually i'm falling forward...

as for carrying records... i can hardly carry mine!  those bitches are 
heavy.


tres
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At 10:31 AM 9/10/99 EDT, Atreu . wrote:

>as for carrying records... i can hardly carry mine!  those bitches are 
>heavy.

you can hardly carry your records? you have 1 record and it's the "Puppy
Love" 45 by donny osmond.

Gip

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At 12:02 AM 9/10/99 EDT, you wrote:
>ummmm it's not craig who's MC'ing..it's some other d00d...<while craig's 
>spinnin...the mc is hollaring "everybody dance to spree because your on 
>Extascy> bwahahaha...but the mc is really cool as well as craig ;)
>latah caroline"meatball"skillz

wow.. you know what I love?

a bunch of morons who weren't even at interstellar dreamfest trying to tell
us who was MCing.

c'mon guys, tell us some more!

PLUR ON!

chris

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i got somthin of yours....
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 15:02:42 1999
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>first..the basics...it's got a real nice cover,

Agreed. Noticed that right off the bat. Very professional, very nice

>great sound quality, and a
>full tracklisting (dammit..every dj needs to put a track listing on their

Agree here also!

>dj tsar does this style justice...
>the mixing is excellent, and the set programming is well done.  the tape
>shows that he has carefully selected his tracks to flow together quite
>nicely.  While it does flow between prog. trance and some vocal handbag
>stuff, it adds variety, and keeps the tape interesting from start to 
>finish.

Agree here also. This tape is very good. If you like this style of music, I 
would suggest picking this one up. Both sides are excellent, mixing is solid 
and it looks great.


Find it, buy it, you will not be disapointed!

Tilzs

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 15:02:54 1999
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I have heard nothing but good things about this tape, what do I need to do to
get 1?
-Stumps

"DJ Storm ." wrote:

> ok..i'll admit it..i'm only reviewing this tape for misha because i feel
> sorry for him...
>
> see..he's not getting any right now, and I figure by giving this tape a good
> review (read on) it will help him become a big name dj.  Soon (because of my
> review) he'll be as big as Oakenfold or Sasha and then he'll get all the 14
> year old action that he's soooo wanted for the past few years...
>
> so anyway..the tape..
>
> first..the basics...it's got a real nice cover, great sound quality, and a
> full tracklisting (dammit..every dj needs to put a track listing on their
> tapes)..
>
> so what is it?
>
> well it's a combo between progressive trance, and vocally progressive
> house..generally a bit lighter than what i normally listen to in trance, but
> dj tsar does this style justice...
> the mixing is excellent, and the set programming is well done.  the tape
> shows that he has carefully selected his tracks to flow together quite
> nicely.  While it does flow between prog. trance and some vocal handbag
> stuff, it adds variety, and keeps the tape interesting from start to finish.
>
> I've heard many progressive trance tapes where 1 side was really good and
> the other side (usually the second) bored the piss out of me...not so with
> this tape...both sides are very nicely done..
>
> so how do you contact the crazy russian to get a copy of this tape?? his
> email addy is dj_tsar@yahoo.com
>
> for those promoters out there...i saw him spin live at ID this past weekend,
> and his skills on the decks are just as good as those on the tape...he's not
> one of those djs who can't live up to the tapes he puts out- he definitely
> has the ability live...
>
> ummm...finally..thanks to misha for the tape!!! :)
>
> Dj Storm
> Hard Trance/ Psychedelic Trance
> Psychedelic Trance Liberation Front  Agent# 604
> http://www.purerave.com/~djstorm
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 15:09:07 1999
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The party tonight (Studio 33) is 18+ because it's at The Quest. Sorry pal...
people gotta cover their asses.

Tapes that are professionally duped with printed j-cards and all cost
somewhere in the neighborhood of $4 to produce. I believe the DJ is reimbursed
by Cynthia (of Cynesthesia) for that amount (or somewhere in that ballpark)
when the tapes sell and she takes the profits. I'm not sure if you've noticed
but EVERYTHING in Cynesthesia costs a pantsload. I was told that markup there
is like 180%. If you ask me, she'd probably do a lot better if the markup were
lower as sales would more than likely skyrocket but, hey, I'm not running the
store now, am I? If you want cheaper tapes you have some options. If you see a
DJ play at a club or a party and you like what you hear, go up to him/her and
ask if they have a tape you can buy. Another option is to watch for DJs
advertising their new tapes on this list. Offer them $5 to send you a copy.
There are usually tape vendors at parties selling tapes as well. I'm not sure
what the tapes are going for there but they're probably at least a little less
than at the store.

I hope that helps you out a bit.

Tanya :)

Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:54:31 EDT
From: RaVeR1420@aol.com
Subject: [mw] whats the deal (Minneapolis)

Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER? 
and why does that party this friday have to be 18+? just ignore all the 
little kids living in this town? AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a 
tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why? 
Freezing
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Any local who makes their own tapes knows it takes a hell of alot more than 
50 cents to produce


>From: RaVeR1420@aol.com
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>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:54:31 EDT
>
>Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER?
>and why does that party this friday have to be 18+? just ignore all the
>little kids living in this town? AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a
>tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why?
>Freezing
>joe
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> There are usually tape vendors at parties selling tapes as well. I'm not
sure
> what the tapes are going for there but they're probably at least a little
less
> than at the store.

most vendors sell for $8-10 for single tapes (10 being more prevalent) and
nine times outta ten, the vendor people will haggle with you if you buy 3 or
more, and are short on cash


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That's not very nice. Did you ever think that Soul Slinger has feelings
too.                   I shall let loose the dogs of war upon your
wretched soul. You will be shiting like a spiked log for two weeks and the
hex will be lifted. Mecca lecca hi mecca hiny ho.           philly



On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Jon Gotti wrote:

> Jungle Sky sux
> Soul Slinger can eat a dick
> DJ Wally bites nutz
> nuf said!
> 
> --- Phillip M Pompa <ac5861@wayne.edu> wrote:
> > Hey, go to Liquidskymusic.com, it's one of my
> > favorites. All kinds or samples
> > in real audio of all their shit. Soul slinger helps
> > compile all of those
> > liquid sky jungle compilations of which "fuck
> > jungle" is one of. This shit is
> > the dopest jungle in the world. The DJ wally track
> > on that disc has to be one
> > of the hardest. I know lots of record stores that
> > get liquid sky vinyl but the
> > workers usually snatch it up on the day that they
> > receive their shipments. Try
> > liquid sky... i think they ship their rare vinyl at
> > a fee, or have someone
> > press it yourself. Small price to pay for jungle
> > like this.
> > "ohhhh shit, im in love with the motherfuckers".    
> >    phil
> > 
> > DreamSequence wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey, anyone seen copies of tracks from "Fuck
> > Jungle".  I can't remember
> > > what number in the series the CD was, but I want a
> > couple from it.  One is
> > > called "9mm" I think... mostly cuz the sample
> > goes:
> > > "The only fuckin' peace(piece)
> > >  The only fuckin' peace
> > >  The only fuckin peace they understand is 9
> > mother-fuckin' millimeter"
> > >
> > > And a few others.  Some are by DJ Wally I know,
> > but I've never seen any of
> > > them on Vinyl.
> > >
> > > Cheerio!
> > >
> > > Kale/DreamSequence
> > >
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>you can hardly carry your records? you have 1 record and it's the "Puppy
>Love" 45 by donny osmond.


hmmm... funny how you know the name of donny osmond songs?!?!

actually my only record is Toto IV....


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I heard they don't have raves there anymore. There's this new thing called
"wigs" that everyone goes to. You should check them out.

Matt

On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 TaeTiger15@aol.com wrote:

> Hello all, I am new to this list.  I am having one hell of a time finding out 
> about raves in the Twin Cities.  Do any of you know of any happeining anytime 
> soon?  Thanks a lot people look forward to talking to all of you later.
> 
> 
> @@TaeTiger@@ *feel the power of Dexomethorphan!*
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At 11:20 AM 9/10/99 EDT, Atreu . wrote:
>
>hmmm... funny how you know the name of donny osmond songs?!?!

well it's not too tough to remember when:

a. it's the only track you spin and you continually rewind
b. you wear the t-shirt that has the iron-on of donny's face on it with the
words, "I'm Donny's #1 fan" on the back
c. your dj name is DJ donny osmond

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OK, I watched the MTV music awards last night, and low and behold, our good
friend Brittany Spears performed her "hit" number "One more time".  Gues
what though? Midway through the tune, it busts into a jungle remix of the
song! I swear to god!

What is our world coming to? I was OK when Bowie bit offjungle, but this
Brittany Spears buisness is just unacceptable...

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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, ricA wrote:

> >@@TaeTiger@@ *feel the power of Dexomethorphan!*
> >
> and we've found a WINNER!!!!
> 
> you da man d00d
> 
> ricA
> 
> obviously he doesn't know what he's fucking with 
> 
OH MY GOD!, I hope he doesn't EXPAND his mind like *I* have through the
powers of dextromorphan hydrobromide! At only $5 a hit, we'll have SUPER
geniuses running all OVER the streets!

Matt


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> friend Brittany Spears

Oh BTW, just realized I misspelled Britany Spears name several times =]

think of it as an intentional mistake, as a protest to the American music
industry... yeah thats it...

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Hmmm, not a hell of a lot more.

0.63 for 90 minute bulk tapes
0.08 for the cases
0.03 for the labels
0.20 for laser printed j-cards
=
94 cents for me to produce my latest tape of tracks. Plus about 850
billion hours of making the music and mastering. And another bunch of
hours to dupe, cut, fold, and stick. And of course this was DIY. Even if
youd send a DAT and a cover design to a duping plant, it should only cost
about $2-3 apiece in quantities over a hundred.

Matt

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Adam Sjogren wrote:

> Any local who makes their own tapes knows it takes a hell of alot more than 
> 50 cents to produce
> 
> 
> >From: RaVeR1420@aol.com
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> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [mw] whats the deal (Minneapolis)
> >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:54:31 EDT
> >
> >Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER?
> >and why does that party this friday have to be 18+? just ignore all the
> >little kids living in this town? AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a
> >tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why?
> >Freezing
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I know, we had a crew at our house and we were all scared.  To make it worse,
it was actually a decent remix.
-Stumps
oh no, did I just say what I think I did

Brandon Ivers wrote:

> OK, I watched the MTV music awards last night, and low and behold, our good
> friend Brittany Spears performed her "hit" number "One more time".  Gues
> what though? Midway through the tune, it busts into a jungle remix of the
> song! I swear to god!
>
> What is our world coming to? I was OK when Bowie bit offjungle, but this
> Brittany Spears buisness is just unacceptable...
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>well it's not too tough to remember when:
>
>a. it's the only track you spin and you continually rewind
>b. you wear the t-shirt that has the iron-on of donny's face on it with the
>words, "I'm Donny's #1 fan" on the back
>c. your dj name is DJ donny osmond


well...

a. i also play my toto rekkid, that way music's constantly going
b. the shirt says, "i wish i was donny osmond's brother!" not "i'm
   donny's #1 fan"
c. my dj name is DJ Donny Osmond tho

:)

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Raver day...Worlds of fun...tomorrow sept 11...come to KC and have a good 
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>ummmm it's not craig who's MC'ing..it's some other d00d...

some people just don't get it.....

*shakes head*

sheesh

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is there ne kind of after party going on?  how late does world of fun stay
open till?  I just happen to be flying into KC tomorrow and I'm lQQkin' for
sumthin' fun to do.

PJ




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Raver day...Worlds of fun...tomorrow sept 11...come to KC and have a good 
time...meeting at 3p.m. at the fountain...if I know you have drugs...i'll 
yell stupid shit at you...have fun...

dylan

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 16:44:12 1999
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I'm sitting here checking my e-mail over and over and am getting nothing new 
so fuck it...I'm leaving this peice of shit chair now...I need to find me a 
girl...any girls out there wanna help me out...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 16:51:19 1999
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sooooo......
another day, another day of werk, another day going out to lunch.
from the mind that brought u 'wtf is up with the detroit lean'....
defunkt-on-nothing-but-lunch-[for-a-change] (TM) is proud to present today's
oddity:

so i'm driving to lunch.  i drive by a church on the way to subway [mmmmm
roast beef].  the sign says: 'GOD IN DA HOUSE'
(!!!)
i'm not shitting you.  not 'the', but 'DA' in big bold capitol fucking
letters.  DA of DA bears and DA bulls variety.

does this strike anyone else as being slightly scary?  i mean last time i
checked arsineo hall wasnt GOD.  /me shudders

so like is this gods new 'hip' image?  is he trying to apeal more to the
younger generation?  will 'amen' be replaced with 'wooo woooo woooo woooo'
barking noises?

thoughts?  flames?  praises?
i have to stop going out to eat.

....just roman meal bakery - thought u'd like to know....

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 17:13:20 1999
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so all this month comedy central has been having a vote for which south park 
episode they will play the following week.  you know like a viewer's choice 
thingamajig!  so anyway this is the last week to vote and the episode i 
really want to see is #1 but is only leading by 10 or less votes.  so what 
i'm asking is for all you people sitting around hitting your refresh/send & 
recieve buttons waiting for that life-changing post to mw-raves got to

http://www.comedycentral.com/southpark/vote/main.tin

and vote for "Episode 301 Rainforest Shmainforest"


tres
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btw... if you get really really bored, you can sit there and vote over and 
over and over again (*wink, wink... nudge, nudge*).


ok back to my "extremely" busy day at work...


tres
... hi ho, hi ho... Hi HO!

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That's not that twisted, im with you. After listening to the darkest of
the darkside of drum n' bass, and terror ragga jungle, my roommate and i
discussed, at length, many innovative ways of torture. Sick and wrong. I
put the evil in devil.   Six million ways ta die...choose one. phil




On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Princess Applesauce In Da House wrote:

> 
> maybe this is pretty twisted, but durring this so called "ambient ending", a 
> friend and i sat on the hill behind the main stage, watching the laser 
> thingy (which was very cool and trippy) and talked about various ways to die 
> in the lake, your tent, the woods, ect...
> i think richie did it to us though....
> ok, i admit it, it was very twisted....
> **lora**
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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Atreu . wrote:

0->>LIGHTAH!
0->
0->
0->WOOOO!!!!  YEAHHHHH!!!!
0->
0->
0->i personally love yelling fire!!  that really gets those ravers blood a 
0->pumpin'!
0->
0->
0->tres
0->... who made who?
0->

or the always popular... COPS!!!!!!

The kids in D-town are trained like pavlovian dogs, now.  At the last
party I went to, the speakers blew and the sound cut out.  I watched
as six b-b0ys immediately emptied out their pockets in the nearest
trash and headed for the wall to 'assume the position'

j/k %)

one love,
griggles



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 17:38:40 1999
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School is back in session and so is the Aliensquad

presenting

Abduction 00:05      Friday September 17, 1999          Lexington Kentucky

featuring:

Terrance Parker - Detroit  
Intangible Records

Dylan Drazen - Brooklyn
The Love Zone

Bob-A-Dob - Cincinnati
Clubhead Records

Trevor Lamont - Lexington
Aliensquad, Teamsters



As usual this will be an intimate event with the D.J. on the floor. 
This will help foster a true connection with the D.J.

We will have free bottled water and candy like all our events.  We look
forward to having everyone out to enjoy the reemerging Lexington scene

FOR MORE INFO VISIT OUR WEB SITE AT WWW.ALIENSQUAD.COM 
or CALL US AT 606.296.7800

keep an eye out on Abduction 00:06....info coming soon





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Ya, no lie.  All you damn peeps who don't like trance, and got free one,
gotta give it up! (sorry, I refuse to use the word 'yo' as any part of a
sentence; descriptive of itself excluded)
Either the tape, or dat ass.  hee

Kale/DreamSequence


On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:

> I have heard nothing but good things about this tape, what do I need to do to
> get 1?
> -Stumps
> 
> "DJ Storm ." wrote:
> 
> > ok..i'll admit it..i'm only reviewing this tape for misha because i feel
> > sorry for him...
> >
> > see..he's not getting any right now, and I figure by giving this tape a good
> > review (read on) it will help him become a big name dj.  Soon (because of my
> > review) he'll be as big as Oakenfold or Sasha and then he'll get all the 14
> > year old action that he's soooo wanted for the past few years...
> >
> > so anyway..the tape..
> >
> > first..the basics...it's got a real nice cover, great sound quality, and a
> > full tracklisting (dammit..every dj needs to put a track listing on their
> > tapes)..
> >
> > so what is it?
> >
> > well it's a combo between progressive trance, and vocally progressive
> > house..generally a bit lighter than what i normally listen to in trance, but
> > dj tsar does this style justice...
> > the mixing is excellent, and the set programming is well done.  the tape
> > shows that he has carefully selected his tracks to flow together quite
> > nicely.  While it does flow between prog. trance and some vocal handbag
> > stuff, it adds variety, and keeps the tape interesting from start to finish.
> >
> > I've heard many progressive trance tapes where 1 side was really good and
> > the other side (usually the second) bored the piss out of me...not so with
> > this tape...both sides are very nicely done..
> >
> > so how do you contact the crazy russian to get a copy of this tape?? his
> > email addy is dj_tsar@yahoo.com
> >
> > for those promoters out there...i saw him spin live at ID this past weekend,
> > and his skills on the decks are just as good as those on the tape...he's not
> > one of those djs who can't live up to the tapes he puts out- he definitely
> > has the ability live...
> >
> > ummm...finally..thanks to misha for the tape!!! :)
> >
> > Dj Storm
> > Hard Trance/ Psychedelic Trance
> > Psychedelic Trance Liberation Front  Agent# 604
> > http://www.purerave.com/~djstorm
> >
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Hey all :-)

Just wanted to settle this for everyone. When I spun with Matt + on Friday 
night at Intersteller Dreamfest, I jumped on the mic because I thought it 
would be fun (it was, for me at least ;-)) :-) When I spun on Saturday 
night, at A New Begening, in Omaha, my MC that I often use, ADB, was there 
MCing for me. He's originally from the UK and has a strong brittish accent. 
As for the question of my accent on Friday night, I didn't try to 
impersonate an accent at all, maybe because of the dust in the air, my voice 
was fukked up or something, who knows :-) Either way, I know I suck as an 
MC, but Friday night was all about having fun, and MCing during Matt +'s and 
my set was a lot of fun :-) I just hope everyone had as much fun as Matt and 
I were having :-) What a wikked time! :-)

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Ya, but matt, your tapes are 3 minutes long, and made out of recycled
camel mucus!
How cheap can you get?

jees.

heeeeee!

Oh, and I ended up picking up a trance track and came across a 3D plate at
rec. serv.  =)
Kale

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, matt wrote:

> Hmmm, not a hell of a lot more.
> 
> 0.63 for 90 minute bulk tapes
> 0.08 for the cases
> 0.03 for the labels
> 0.20 for laser printed j-cards
> =
> 94 cents for me to produce my latest tape of tracks. Plus about 850
> billion hours of making the music and mastering. And another bunch of
> hours to dupe, cut, fold, and stick. And of course this was DIY. Even if
> youd send a DAT and a cover design to a duping plant, it should only cost
> about $2-3 apiece in quantities over a hundred.
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Adam Sjogren wrote:
> 
> > Any local who makes their own tapes knows it takes a hell of alot more than 
> > 50 cents to produce
> > 
> > 
> > >From: RaVeR1420@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: RaVeR1420@aol.com
> > >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: [mw] whats the deal (Minneapolis)
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:54:31 EDT
> > >
> > >Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER?
> > >and why does that party this friday have to be 18+? just ignore all the
> > >little kids living in this town? AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a
> > >tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why?
> > >Freezing
> > >joe
> > >
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Now that is an idea I can definately agree with, TRANCEHEADS UNITE!!!  Actually, I
am gonna send misha some cash when I get home tonight.
PeAz,
Stumps

DreamSequence wrote:

> Ya, no lie.  All you damn peeps who don't like trance, and got free one,
> gotta give it up! (sorry, I refuse to use the word 'yo' as any part of a
> sentence; descriptive of itself excluded)
> Either the tape, or dat ass.  hee
>
> Kale/DreamSequence
>
> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:
>
> > I have heard nothing but good things about this tape, what do I need to do to
> > get 1?
> > -Stumps
> >
> > "DJ Storm ." wrote:
> >
> > > ok..i'll admit it..i'm only reviewing this tape for misha because i feel
> > > sorry for him...
> > >
> > > see..he's not getting any right now, and I figure by giving this tape a good
> > > review (read on) it will help him become a big name dj.  Soon (because of my
> > > review) he'll be as big as Oakenfold or Sasha and then he'll get all the 14
> > > year old action that he's soooo wanted for the past few years...
> > >
> > > so anyway..the tape..
> > >
> > > first..the basics...it's got a real nice cover, great sound quality, and a
> > > full tracklisting (dammit..every dj needs to put a track listing on their
> > > tapes)..
> > >
> > > so what is it?
> > >
> > > well it's a combo between progressive trance, and vocally progressive
> > > house..generally a bit lighter than what i normally listen to in trance, but
> > > dj tsar does this style justice...
> > > the mixing is excellent, and the set programming is well done.  the tape
> > > shows that he has carefully selected his tracks to flow together quite
> > > nicely.  While it does flow between prog. trance and some vocal handbag
> > > stuff, it adds variety, and keeps the tape interesting from start to finish.
> > >
> > > I've heard many progressive trance tapes where 1 side was really good and
> > > the other side (usually the second) bored the piss out of me...not so with
> > > this tape...both sides are very nicely done..
> > >
> > > so how do you contact the crazy russian to get a copy of this tape?? his
> > > email addy is dj_tsar@yahoo.com
> > >
> > > for those promoters out there...i saw him spin live at ID this past weekend,
> > > and his skills on the decks are just as good as those on the tape...he's not
> > > one of those djs who can't live up to the tapes he puts out- he definitely
> > > has the ability live...
> > >
> > > ummm...finally..thanks to misha for the tape!!! :)
> > >
> > > Dj Storm
> > > Hard Trance/ Psychedelic Trance
> > > Psychedelic Trance Liberation Front  Agent# 604
> > > http://www.purerave.com/~djstorm
> > >
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As a true junglist this sickens me to the breakbeat core of my soul. Fuck
Mouseketeers, fuck spears, fuck the music awards. As my old friend jack
burton says "son of a bitch must pay." I abhor brittany spears, and all
the silicon in the world wouln't change my mind. Thank you brandon for
enlightening me of this disturbing fun fact. Now if you'll excuse me i off
to go induce vomiting.   peace...i feel faint and dizzy. phil




On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Brandon Ivers wrote:

> OK, I watched the MTV music awards last night, and low and behold, our good
> friend Brittany Spears performed her "hit" number "One more time".  Gues
> what though? Midway through the tune, it busts into a jungle remix of the
> song! I swear to god!
> 
> What is our world coming to? I was OK when Bowie bit offjungle, but this
> Brittany Spears buisness is just unacceptable...
> 
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 << Six million ways ta die...choose one.>>

six million and one...with your eyes closed...=)

richie twisted my mentals too...seems to have that effect on me every time
i see him...it was like he took my brain out and molested it for a few
hours and then put it back in my head feeling *rather* fukt...no wonder i
had a silly grin on my face afterwards....<giggle>

 a few other tekno djs, evil tekstep/darkstep jungle, or
noisecore...they might do that to me...but it's hard to find someone who
will fuck with my brain that hardcore...

peace
lauryn

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 18:28:01 1999
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> Either way, I know I suck as an
> MC, but Friday night was all about having fun,

yeah but happy hardcore is pretty serious music. Maybe it's time you start
treating it as such...

BTW, didn't anyone ever teach you that if you aren't good at something then
you shouldn't try to do it? Gezzzz.... (thanks Dad!)

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so i spent 2 hours in the lab on one of those new mac G3's with the
painfully small keyboard and the stupid round mouse that doesn't work for
shit scanning and uploading these pics.  you'd better all damn well
appreciate them.

http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~crege/id.html

have fun.

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Don't believe him that's the evil spree


>From: ". craig/spree ." <xotis@hotmail.com>
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] Spree = MC^2
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:54:02 PDT
>
>Hey all :-)
>
>Just wanted to settle this for everyone. When I spun with Matt + on Friday
>night at Intersteller Dreamfest, I jumped on the mic because I thought it
>would be fun (it was, for me at least ;-)) :-) When I spun on Saturday
>night, at A New Begening, in Omaha, my MC that I often use, ADB, was there
>MCing for me. He's originally from the UK and has a strong brittish accent.
>As for the question of my accent on Friday night, I didn't try to
>impersonate an accent at all, maybe because of the dust in the air, my 
>voice
>was fukked up or something, who knows :-) Either way, I know I suck as an
>MC, but Friday night was all about having fun, and MCing during Matt +'s 
>and
>my set was a lot of fun :-) I just hope everyone had as much fun as Matt 
>and
>I were having :-) What a wikked time! :-)
>
>-Craig/Spree
>http://members.xoom.com/djspree
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I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Who the hell is Brittany Spears?

>From: <ac5861@wayne.edu>
>Reply-To: <ac5861@wayne.edu>
>To: Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] God Save Me! Brittany Spears gone Jungle??
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:14:26 -0400 (EDT)
>
>As a true junglist this sickens me to the breakbeat core of my soul. Fuck
>Mouseketeers, fuck spears, fuck the music awards. As my old friend jack
>burton says "son of a bitch must pay." I abhor brittany spears, and all
>the silicon in the world wouln't change my mind. Thank you brandon for
>enlightening me of this disturbing fun fact. Now if you'll excuse me i off
>to go induce vomiting.   peace...i feel faint and dizzy. phil
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Brandon Ivers wrote:
>
> > OK, I watched the MTV music awards last night, and low and behold, our 
>good
> > friend Brittany Spears performed her "hit" number "One more time".  Gues
> > what though? Midway through the tune, it busts into a jungle remix of 
>the
> > song! I swear to god!
> >
> > What is our world coming to? I was OK when Bowie bit offjungle, but this
> > Brittany Spears buisness is just unacceptable...
> >
> > Brandon
> >
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> Who the hell is Britany Spears?

Since I know that you never listen to commercial radio or MTV, Ill let you
in on the big secret.  She is a pop sensation, along with the likes of
'nsync, backstreet boys, and all the other hoards of groups that have
official fan club magazines in the teen section at bookstores.

damn adam, you gotta stop being so damn underground!

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> from what I heard, the only member who's still with the band it Axl,
> and the rest of the band is going to consist of the former touring band
> of Trent Resnor (his first one), and that GNR is going to be an
> industrial band now.  I don't know if this is absolutely true, but the
> person who told this to me said it with a straight face.
>

robin fink (tour guitarist from '92ish - '96ish) was contracted to gnr for 2
years.  during that time he did lots of guitar work with axl.  no word on
how much of robin's work will be on the new gnr album (i won't really care.
not a fan of axl :P) but once the contract was up he was rehired by reznor
for his upcoming tour to support the new album 'the fragil'.  as far as axl
going industrial, he's a business man.  industrial is so old news.  kids
like this 'electronica' stuff nowadays.

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> as far as axl
> going industrial, he's a business man.  industrial is so old news.

Yeah but a lot of metal types are doing industrial type crossover tunes,
such as Days Of The New, Powerman 5000, and some other crap I can't
remember. They are even using old industrial breaks....bring on the drills!

Industrial may be old, but it appeals more to the KICKASS MAN type than
trance and techno anyway =].

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Im about as underground as the top of the sears tower, or the teenage mutant 
ninja turtles---pick one!
>
>damn adam, you gotta stop being so damn underground!
>
>Brandon
>

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>so what i'm asking is for 

aight..ya got my vote

>waiting for that life-changing post to mw-raves

...and I've been waiting awhile now!

pj

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so all this month comedy central has been having a vote for which south park

episode they will play the following week.  you know like a viewer's choice 
thingamajig!  so anyway this is the last week to vote and the episode i 
really want to see is #1 but is only leading by 10 or less votes.  so what 
i'm asking is for all you people sitting around hitting your refresh/send & 
recieve buttons waiting for that life-changing post to mw-raves got to

http://www.comedycentral.com/southpark/vote/main.tin

and vote for "Episode 301 Rainforest Shmainforest"


tres
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> >so what i'm asking is for
>
>aight..ya got my vote
>
> >waiting for that life-changing post to mw-raves
>
>...and I've been waiting awhile now!


well... i have this strange feeling that you're going to waiting for awhile 
longer!  :)


tres

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Damn!!!  I gave up seeing my shrink hoping that MW-Raves was gonna help me
figure it all out!


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> >so what i'm asking is for
>
>aight..ya got my vote
>
> >waiting for that life-changing post to mw-raves
>
>...and I've been waiting awhile now!


well... i have this strange feeling that you're going to waiting for awhile 
longer!  :)


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Hey all,

Since I'm going on at 8pm tonight (big up the opening DJ massive!) I've 
decided to do an all Trancecore/Freeform set with some brand new records 
that TIlzs and I just got. My set will be folowed up by some wikked trance 
from CJ Skyy from Provibe. So if you want to hear some Freeform on a loud 
system, stop down early tonight at the Quest.

*** Freakboy, give me a call if you want to go, I have a comp for you, plus 
I need to talk to you about some D&D related stuff ;-) 386-6784 or just 
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didgeridoo for dat ass

check it:  http://216.99.203.61:8000/

aawwwww  yeaaahhhhhhh!!!

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>Damn!!!  I gave up seeing my shrink hoping that MW-Raves was gonna help me
>figure it all out!


man if this list helps you figure it all out, i'll give you a cookie!


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hello! my name is chrsie and i don't know how to properly name my links

At 01:31 PM 9/10/99 -0500, chris ege wrote:
>
>so i spent 2 hours in the lab on one of those new mac G3's with the
>painfully small keyboard and the stupid round mouse that doesn't work for
>shit scanning and uploading these pics.  you'd better all damn well
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>http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~crege/id.html
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I was bored at work and I voted about 20 times
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>I was bored at work and I voted about 20 times
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two nights ago i was stuck at work for like two or three hours so i sat 
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dagnabbit...if i'm gonna attempt sarcasm the least i could do is spell
correctly.

At 03:31 PM 9/10/99, roman511@netusa1.net wrote:
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Yea, what party is tonight again?  Besides the obvious (Inner Sanctum,
Beatopia, etc)

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Yea, I lost $226 at the casino a few nights ago... That wasn't very cool;
I could've gotten some really expensive drugs and had a really cool time.
Oh well, gambling rules.

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did anyone see the minidisc ad in which the guy walks into the room where
his friend is recording something on minidisc, hears the weird
rewinding/recording noise and says, "Cool. Is this ambient jungle?"

cracked my shit up...

bom shankar!
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Adam Sjogren wrote:

> Any local who makes their own tapes knows it takes a hell of alot more than 
> 50 cents to produce

Actually, my DIY tapes cost around $0.75 to make..  $6 for some UR-90s and
a laser printer will get you a long way, if you're willing to dub them
yourself...  But that's what DIY's all about, I guess. :)

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WTF...practically the only picture I'm in and it's a fuckin broken 
link!!!

fix it Chris!!!

damn, ain't we cool? (aka chris couldnt come up with a witty caption 
for this one) sean/siezer, lora/applsauce, dj storm, and ricA 
(http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~crege/group.jpg)

hook it up

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So, you think Doormouse is HARDCORE? I'll show him the hardcore at WTW2 tomorrow night! He challenged...I accepted...WW3.
Watch the worlds of CORE collide! This will not be on pay-per-view so show the fuck up!

That's right, bitches, posting from my pager on digest! 

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Yowsers I barely have time to scratch myass let alone dub all my own 
tapes--besides, not to be a dick, but i would want my tapes to be nice and 
professional looking--maybe I'm just a tape snob though

as underground as the sears tower

> > Any local who makes their own tapes knows it takes a hell of alot more 
>than
> > 50 cents to produce
>
>Actually, my DIY tapes cost around $0.75 to make..  $6 for some UR-90s and
>a laser printer will get you a long way, if you're willing to dub them
>yourself...  But that's what DIY's all about, I guess. :)



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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Adam Sjogren wrote:
> Yowsers I barely have time to scratch myass let alone dub all my own 
> tapes--besides, not to be a dick, but i would want my tapes to be nice and 
> professional looking--maybe I'm just a tape snob though

Yea, I made all of those tapes while I was still in high schoool...  Wow,
that means that I haven't released anything in the last year except
MP3s...  I should really get a tape or CD out sometime...

Anyway, it doesn't take much time; I'd just leave the master in my A deck
and pop in a new tape and start dubbing whenever I got the chance...  You
could just leave and next time you came back switch it...  You kind of get
into a habit of doing it after a while...

But my next tape will probably be mass-duplicated since I have money
now...  Of course I'm a computer programmer, so it's not like I don't have
tons of spare time... I should just set a tape dubber up next to my
computer at work...  If I just spent less time reading mw-raves everyday
I'd probably be able to accomplish a lot more. :)

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> If I just spent less time reading mw-raves everyday
> I'd probably be able to accomplish a lot more. :)

can we add this into the FA-Q?

pixie <guilty as charged, and like so many others, waiting for that
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I got a pic of ricA at ID....it's got dica and stan doublin and nitro and a 
bunch of other peeps in it too...

>From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
>Reply-To: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
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>Subject: RE: [mw] interstellar dreamfest pics are up!
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:50:08 -0500
>
>WTF...practically the only picture I'm in and it's a fuckin broken
>link!!!
>
>fix it Chris!!!
>
>damn, ain't we cool? (aka chris couldnt come up with a witty caption
>for this one) sean/siezer, lora/applsauce, dj storm, and ricA
>(http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~crege/group.jpg)
>
>hook it up
>
>ricA

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Oh my god I can't belive it, I've been having the most god awful shitz
lately, GOD HELP ME!
p.s. Soul Slinger still sux!

--- ac5861@wayne.edu wrote:
> 
> That's not very nice. Did you ever think that Soul
> Slinger has feelings
> too.                   I shall let loose the dogs of
> war upon your
> wretched soul. You will be shiting like a spiked log
> for two weeks and the
> hex will be lifted. Mecca lecca hi mecca hiny ho.   
>        philly
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Jon Gotti wrote:
> 
> > Jungle Sky sux
> > Soul Slinger can eat a dick
> > DJ Wally bites nutz
> > nuf said!
> > 
> > --- Phillip M Pompa <ac5861@wayne.edu> wrote:
> > > Hey, go to Liquidskymusic.com, it's one of my
> > > favorites. All kinds or samples
> > > in real audio of all their shit. Soul slinger
> helps
> > > compile all of those
> > > liquid sky jungle compilations of which "fuck
> > > jungle" is one of. This shit is
> > > the dopest jungle in the world. The DJ wally
> track
> > > on that disc has to be one
> > > of the hardest. I know lots of record stores
> that
> > > get liquid sky vinyl but the
> > > workers usually snatch it up on the day that
> they
> > > receive their shipments. Try
> > > liquid sky... i think they ship their rare vinyl
> at
> > > a fee, or have someone
> > > press it yourself. Small price to pay for jungle
> > > like this.
> > > "ohhhh shit, im in love with the motherfuckers".
>    
> > >    phil
> > > 
> > > DreamSequence wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey, anyone seen copies of tracks from "Fuck
> > > Jungle".  I can't remember
> > > > what number in the series the CD was, but I
> want a
> > > couple from it.  One is
> > > > called "9mm" I think... mostly cuz the sample
> > > goes:
> > > > "The only fuckin' peace(piece)
> > > >  The only fuckin' peace
> > > >  The only fuckin peace they understand is 9
> > > mother-fuckin' millimeter"
> > > >
> > > > And a few others.  Some are by DJ Wally I
> know,
> > > but I've never seen any of
> > > > them on Vinyl.
> > > >
> > > > Cheerio!
> > > >
> > > > Kale/DreamSequence
> > > >
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Not to mention 99% of it sucks...


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>you're trying, aren't you?!

U know me ;)

Actually,
SOME Hardcore tracks are really good... But no one should base their whole 
lives around hardcore like some people on this board seem to do.  It's didn't 
get the name "Gabber-HOUSE" for nothing.

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> >you're trying, aren't you?!
>
>U know me ;)
>
>Actually,
>SOME Hardcore tracks are really good... But no one should base their whole
>lives around hardcore like some people on this board seem to do.  It's 
>didn't
>get the name "Gabber-HOUSE" for nothing.


i must've been under a rock for some years now, but i didn't there was a 
such thing as "gabber-house"!

wouldn't that be like writing evil-happy hardcore tracks???


tres
... guess i'm just an oxymoron.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 21:52:45 1999
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This is Grace.  Im new to the list so i was just popping in to say hello.  Im 
from st/. louis and went to id this past weekend.  that about it.

Much love
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 21:59:27 1999
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Well, while we're at it, I'm new too- and from stl.  I joined about a
week ago to fill the void when stl-raves went down and I didn't have
any email to keep me busy at work anymore.  

and to anyone I met at dreamfest- HI!

BIG HUGZ,
spencer

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> i must've been under a rock for some years now, but i didn't there was a 
> such thing as "gabber-house"!

well duh, how else could it all be just sex, drugs, and gabba haus?!?

> 
> wouldn't that be like writing evil-happy hardcore tracks???

hey, if evil spree can happen, anything can.

> 
> tres
> ... guess i'm just an oxymoron.

*bites her tongue*



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:07:01 1999
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>I joined about a week ago to fill the void when stl-raves went down and I 
>didn't have any email to keep me busy at work anymore.



well... you'll have plenty now!  :)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:13:25 1999
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Ok most of you probably don't know, but every Thursday night here in
St. Louis Double X and I (wow correct english!) host a little DJ night
at the South Grand Coffee house, it features 3 Dj's a night with a
rotating lineup, all styles of electronic music are represented from
Deep House to some bad ass Gabber.  Its only $2 to enter and this money
goes toward a drink at the coffee bar.  So if any of ya are in town on
a Thursday night, its a pretty cool little thing to go to, if ya ever
need directions hit me at this e-mail.
OK that out of tha way, a big fuck you to Dysphonix and Tre' last night
who both begged me to let em play last night and neighther one showed
up.  I saw Tre' later on and he gave some lame ass excuse about how he
had to get a ride from Jim K to Babylon and he totally forgot, OK I
guess apology accepted, maybe (but Dan has no fucking excuse ya ass
wipe).  Well instead of these pukes, those who came were treated to a 2
hour set by Double X and his 202, and an hour of some sick ass Drum n
Bass.
p.s. this usually doen't happen!

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I was on my way home from work, and the weather was beautiful, the music
I was listening to was beautiful, and I got this crazy idea to grab a
boom box and I think I am going to go dance in the park.
-stumpman

Atreu . wrote:
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>well duh, how else could it all be just sex, drugs, and gabba haus?!?

oh yeah... <opens mouth... inserts foot>


i need to go home...


tres
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----- Original Message -----
From: <RobertC4me@aol.com>
> Actually,
> SOME Hardcore tracks are really good...

and some are bad, like any other genre

> lives around hardcore like some people on this board seem to do.  It's
didn't
> get the name "Gabber-HOUSE" for nothing.

i'm with tres on this one.....gabber-house?
we got enough genres already, don't we?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:25:03 1999
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Hey,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:30:00 1999
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> > get the name "Gabber-HOUSE" for nothing.
>
>i'm with tres on this one.....gabber-house?
>we got enough genres already, don't we?


yeah... i remember back when it was called "techno"... all of it!

*sniff*
:`\

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:33:43 1999
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Oh my god, Dayzee (the jungle DJ from the Uk, not that house crap)
fookin kicked ass last night at club Babylon.  
And yes you were right Bary she is absolutely HOT!  Even my girlfriend
wanted to get on her!  ANd her MC Chicaboo is hot too, what is it about
female jungle DJ's?  Is there a prerequisite that you have to be
absolutely gorgeous? (whoever wrote that clause i wanna shake there
hand)
Remember, Got Vibe is going on this next weekend (the 18th)  come see
my ass tear it up, and bring your paddles!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:35:20 1999
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In a message dated 9/10/99 5:30:11 PM Central Daylight Time, 
atreu3@hotmail.com writes:

<< yeah... i remember back when it was called "techno"... all of it!>>

A quote once heard in my car:

"Oh my god!  This tape is so dope!  This is like trancey-jungle-harder happy 
hardcore"

I always had thought it was happy hardcore..  silly me!

Jen

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:39:06 1999
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Well come Gracie, Jon, and Spens[q]er.....

St. Louis is in the house!

You are all in for a REAL TREAT on this list.

Now come on guys/gals/some of both/none of each make sure and NOT scare the
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:43:42 1999
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In a message dated 99-09-10 17:25:47 EDT, RobertC4me@aol.com writes:

<< Not to mention 99% of it sucks... >>
 oh really? I think hardcor eis very vreative and has a nice dark negative 
attitude ... i personally love it , give me something dark between 200 and 
400 bpm and i will go fuckin nutz ... btw how much hardcore have u heard to 
even say that 99 percent of it sucks ? Sound like a bullshit statement to me .
DJSUER
NT+
...Hardcore motherfucker.......

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:44:38 1999
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ah, they'll be ok since they didn't post in candy-etard-fourth grader-speak
and didn't ask a bunch of dippy questions ;D like "what's a rave?" and "i so
totally dig that new Britney Spears jungle remix! don't you?"


> Now come on guys/gals/some of both/none of each make sure and NOT scare
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:45:46 1999
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In a message dated 99-09-10 18:19:45 EDT, smooveb@asapnet.net writes:

<< i'm with tres on this one.....gabber-house?
 we got enough genres already, don't we? >>

well gabber house .. hmmm .. rob gees popular track ... anyone that says 
hardcore techno gabber house is dead ,,fuck you ...... 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:46:42 1999
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Go play in some traffic...






    But do it with style...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 22:55:45 1999
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if these directions arent exact (no exit, construction etc.) remember this:

THE BLACK HOLE is located at 3057 w. 26th st between california and kedzie in 
chicago. just under the viaduct and inside the black iron fenced walgreens 
parking lot

from milwaukee

I-94 and go South for 86.1 miles 92.0 miles 
Continue on N Racine Ave and go South for 0.3 miles 92.4 miles 
Turn right on N Ogden Ave and go Southwest for 3.0 miles 95.4 miles 
Turn left on S California Ave and go South for 1.2 miles 96.5 miles 
Turn right on W 26th St and go West for 0.3 miles to 3057 W 26th St
enter walgreens parking lot on left
look for the "black hole" sign, park and enter

from madison

I-90 and go Southeast for 140.8 miles 
Continue on N Racine Ave and go South for 0.3 miles 
Turn right on N Ogden Ave and go Southwest for 3.0 miles 
Turn left on S California Ave and go South for 1.2 miles
Turn right on W 26th St and go West for 0.3 miles to 3057 W 26th St
enter walgreens parking lot on left
look for the "black hole" sign, park and enter

from st louis

I-55 and go Northeast for 289.4 miles 
Continue on S California Ave and go Northeast for 1.4 miles 
Turn left on W 26th St and go West for 0.3 miles to 3057 W 26th St
enter walgreens parking lot on left
look for the "black hole" sign, park and enter

from indiana

I-90 Express Ln,I-94 Express Ln,Dan Ryan Express Ln W and go North for 2.4 
miles
Continue on I-90,I-94,Dan Ryan Expy W and go West for 0.2 miles 
Bear right on I-55,Stevenson Expy S and go West for 3.2 miles 
Continue on S Kedzie Ave and go Northwest for 1.5 miles Turn right on W 26th 
St and go East for 0.2 miles to 3057 W 26th St
enter walgreens parking lot on right
look for the "black hole" sign, park and enter

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 23:04:35 1999
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hey kids...	

I know this is directed at a small audience, but i just wanted to inform
those interested that I will be spinning this evening on 89.7 KIWR, the
River, from 11PM - 2AM.  Well, I won't be spinning for three hours, but I
will have big chunks of each hour, so if you can please tune it in and
check it out.  I'll be bringing a friend to spin during the middle
segment, not saying who because i haven't really told the station yet,
but trust me, you'll wanna check it out.  If this list is ANY indication
you guys like him... a LOT.

wish me luck... I'm actually gonna attempt to spin a ghetto set on the
radio.  You wanna talk about tuff to makeradio-friendly... sheesh!!!!
heheh...

peace....

-pm-

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 23:08:41 1999
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:35:50 -0500 "TOBY M BROSNAHAN" <TMB4@prodigy.net>
writes:

>(points finger at TRUNK and dot.com)
>
>Behave or no more MEAT for you!


HEY!!!!  once again the mighty .com has wild accusations flung his way...
I WILL NO LONGER STAND FOR THIS PERSECUTION!!!


i'm a good boy... just ask around... i'm sure everyone will agree.  i'm
innocent.

PLUR!

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>did anyone see the minidisc ad in which the guy walks into the room where
>his friend is recording something on minidisc, hears the weird
>rewinding/recording noise and says, "Cool. Is this ambient jungle?"
>
>cracked my shit up...

chrise and i did...and ive been waiting all day for someone else to post 
about it....that was some funny shite...
we need to be careful, were taking over the world you guys...
personally, i couldnt be happier about our world domination...
*evil grin* bwahhahaahhhaaaahhaha!
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 10 23:17:57 1999
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pleeeeeessssseeeeee, play the pussy pop!
a bit too racy for radio, i think not!

--- "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com> wrote:
> hey kids...	
> 
> I know this is directed at a small audience, but i
> just wanted to inform
> those interested that I will be spinning this
> evening on 89.7 KIWR, the
> River, from 11PM - 2AM.  Well, I won't be spinning
> for three hours, but I
> will have big chunks of each hour, so if you can
> please tune it in and
> check it out.  I'll be bringing a friend to spin
> during the middle
> segment, not saying who because i haven't really
> told the station yet,
> but trust me, you'll wanna check it out.  If this
> list is ANY indication
> you guys like him... a LOT.
> 
> wish me luck... I'm actually gonna attempt to spin a
> ghetto set on the
> radio.  You wanna talk about tuff to
> makeradio-friendly... sheesh!!!!
> heheh...
> 
> peace....
> 
> -pm-
> 
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> Massive '99
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>>Hey, where can I get some of those YES stickers?  I've been to both 
>Forever
>>After and A New Beginning and both times got covered with those.  :)  
>
>
>
>Doug from KC has a whole slew of them
>
>ricA

indeed. doug should still have more, and we just got some more as well;
(stick & i) however, i think you might be even more interested in the new
ones we've got- if only you knew. hehehe. ;)

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>ah, they'll be ok since they didn't post in candy-etard-fourth grader-speak
>and didn't ask a bunch of dippy questions ;D like "what's a rave?" and "i 
>so
>totally dig that new Britney Spears jungle remix! don't you?"

if the newbies cant hang they cant hang....but pix is right, they should be 
fine, i didnt see the word *yo* in any of the posts...but i did like the 
britney spears remix....dammit....its better than her other shit (lora 
knows)
now im going to duck because im sure youre all throwing virtual rotten fruit 
at me...
**lora**

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somebody requested info on the louisville party tonight. the number is
588-5777

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ahh...knew there was somethin good bout livin around da motor city!...heh./me
thinks .com needs to come shake his booty up here sometime.


> .. I'm actually gonna attempt to spin a ghetto set on the
> radio.  You wanna talk about tuff to makeradio-friendly... sheesh!!!!
> heheh...
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I WAS THE SECRET MC! I was trained in Jamaica from ages 5-7.

Matt

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

> >ummmm it's not craig who's MC'ing..it's some other d00d...
> 
> some people just don't get it.....
> 
> *shakes head*
> 
> sheesh
> 
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Plus he was drunk. I saw it. No one who wasn't drunk would MC.

Matt

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, . craig/spree . wrote:

> Hey all :-)
> 
> Just wanted to settle this for everyone. When I spun with Matt + on Friday 
> night at Intersteller Dreamfest, I jumped on the mic because I thought it 
> would be fun (it was, for me at least ;-)) :-) When I spun on Saturday 
> night, at A New Begening, in Omaha, my MC that I often use, ADB, was there 
> MCing for me. He's originally from the UK and has a strong brittish accent. 
> As for the question of my accent on Friday night, I didn't try to 
> impersonate an accent at all, maybe because of the dust in the air, my voice 
> was fukked up or something, who knows :-) Either way, I know I suck as an 
> MC, but Friday night was all about having fun, and MCing during Matt +'s and 
> my set was a lot of fun :-) I just hope everyone had as much fun as Matt and 
> I were having :-) What a wikked time! :-)
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Gabber is not hardcore. Gabber is a subset of hardcore. 99% of Gabber does
not suck, it's merely derivative and mostly monotonous. Just like most
genres of electronic music. I like some gabber. I only own one gabber
record. I call myself a hardcore DJ. If a record has stupid ass vocal
samples using the word fuck, I don't buy it because it sucks. Wait, it's
derivative.

Matt

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> >you're trying, aren't you?!
> 
> U know me ;)
> 
> Actually,
> SOME Hardcore tracks are really good... But no one should base their whole 
> lives around hardcore like some people on this board seem to do.  It's didn't 
> get the name "Gabber-HOUSE" for nothing.
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For those of you not in the broadcast area, point your browsers to:
     www.webradio.com/kiwr
  --- I think that's the right address. It's live radio on the net, baby! yeah!

            peace.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 00:32:41 1999
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okay...

i dunno if i can really REVIEW something this amazing, but i'll just give my 
little subjective viewpoints and hope it means somethin' to someone...

highlights:

the vibe, the great attitudes, the people in general...

"Sandwiches"...i haven't stopped singing it...

the pillow fight in our hotel

the tractor-flatbed rides

driving a golfcart (and being driven around by a maniacal jj)

the parade o' freaks with torches and crazy outfits!  it was like a 
bacchanalia...those are my people!!!

the drop bass system...crazy bastards!!! those are my people too...

playing on a LOUD ASS MUTHAFUCKIN SYSTEM

RITCHIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and i thought the chill music was 
great...what the hell else ya gonna do?  try and bang out some more techno?  
why bother?)

dancing with a cute girl in cat ears...i never even got her name :(

hangin out with my fellow SUBterrorists all weekend

great music ALL weekend...how rarely that occurs... ;p

not-so-covert broccoli bombing with JOHNb (and gizzmo running along with a 
video camera)

watching the massive laser from behind the stage with my crew

seeing all my friends


lowlights:

the dust

the howling dog in the hotel room next to ours and the other hotel who 
didn't let us in our room til 4 in the fucking afternoon (while our records 
fried in the sun)

getting stung by a hornet on my hand

missing most of dante's set

happy hardcore...ick...

the wall o' bugs on monday morning

missing the KC organized talk thingie on saturday cuz we didn't get to sleep 
til 5 cuz of the aforementioned hotel crap

missing my friends who couldn't go (hi to steph, kate, kara, tina, nate, 
shannon and everyone else)


WOW!!!! i thought nothing could top the first dreamfest!  that will always 
live on in my memories, but ID was an amazing experience...so much more than 
just a party...

during ritchie's set, i danced continuously for 4 hours (haven't done that 
in years).  i kept catching glances and smiles from other people who were 
enjoying it too.  it was so much what it should be...we were all loving it, 
and not afraid to smile and dance with other people we didn't know.  i met 
lots of great people, and i'm so thankful to jason and jj for allowing me to 
be a part of it.

thanks to everyone involved...

dj shiva

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Ok so I am another newbie, but I just found out the Britney spears jungle
remix was done by Jordana (previously 1.8.7), I kinda like it too. (also
dodging rotten tomatoes)

>If the newbies cant hang they cant hang....but pix is right, they should
>be fine, i didnt see the word *yo* in any of the posts...but i did like
>the britney spears remix....dammit....its better than her other shit
>(lora
>knows)  now im going to duck because im sure youre all throwing virtual
>rotten fruit at me...  **lora**

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That kinda figures, can we all start singing "music sounds better with
you" to a jungle beat.
Some of her shit has been really good, but im just not into that whole
cheese factor, i think Aphrodite covers that areana well enough without
any help.

--- Sarah <sarahb@cyberspace.org> wrote:
> 
> Ok so I am another newbie, but I just found out the
> Britney spears jungle
> remix was done by Jordana (previously 1.8.7), I
> kinda like it too. (also
> dodging rotten tomatoes)
> 
> >If the newbies cant hang they cant hang....but pix
> is right, they should
> >be fine, i didnt see the word *yo* in any of the
> posts...but i did like
> >the britney spears remix....dammit....its better
> than her other shit
> >(lora
> >knows)  now im going to duck because im sure youre
> all throwing virtual
> >rotten fruit at me...  **lora**
> 
> Sarah
> 
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Jon Gotti wrote:

> That kinda figures, can we all start singing "music sounds better with
> you" to a jungle beat.

oooooo baybay...


> Some of her shit has been really good, but im just not into that whole
> cheese factor, i think Aphrodite covers that areana well enough without
> any help.
> 
Yeah but I do think her pop remixes have a bit more flavor than Afrodite.
You just have to accept it for what it is: fun stuff. God knows there is
enough "serious" jungle out there and she covers that area pretty well
too. I don't know, just my half penny.

pEaCe
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matt <demmon@students.uiuc.edu> writes:
>Gabber is not hardcore. Gabber is a subset of hardcore. 99% of Gabber does
>not suck, it's merely derivative and mostly monotonous. Just like most
>genres of electronic music. I like some gabber. I only own one gabber
>record. I call myself a hardcore DJ. If a record has stupid ass vocal
>samples using the word fuck, I don't buy it because it sucks. Wait, it's
>derivative.
>
>Matt

No shit.  I was under the impression that gabber
almost doesn't exist in the US.  Has anybody
ever heard gabber played out at a rave?  I know
I haven't.  Hardcore, on the other hand, is pretty
standard faire.  Most of what's classified as
hardcore isn't even that fast, it just has a
particular distorted/overcompressed sound on
the bass drum kick.  I can't even name one
person associated with gabber :/  But I can
tell you that your typical Delta 9/Nasenbluten/
Ron D Core selection is not it--most of those
tracks have a comfortable mid-100s bpm count.
It's easy to dance to.  It's certainly not the 700
bpm gabbercore supposedly coming out of
Rotterdam..Go to http://www.satelliterecords.com
and listen to the tracks they have classified as
hardcore...  It's almost all the same speed as
techno, jungle, & other genres.  Hell, that Omar
Santana track is slower than most house.  But I
don't know much about gabber/hardcore, so fill
me in.  Is there gabber around here?

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 It's certainly not the 700
> bpm gabbercore supposedly coming out of
> Rotterdam..

Most of the hardcore coming out of Holland now a daze is reeeeely slow.
 You know that Partycore shite
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Sarah <sarahb@cyberspace.org> writes:
>Yeah but I do think her pop remixes have a bit more flavor than Afrodite.
>You just have to accept it for what it is: fun stuff. God knows there is
>enough "serious" jungle out there and she covers that area pretty well
>too. I don't know, just my half penny.

The beginning of a new subgenre, perhaps?

"Happy jungle"?

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-------------ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES----------------

for all of you people who have just joined mw-raves please let your voice
be heard!

don't just sit there on your ass and watch as people post meaningless
comments!!
post some of your own!!!!

I've been on mw-raves for almost 5 months now....... and I still consider
myself a newbie

let your voice be heard, or else email me back and we'll start our own
mailing list.....
maybe we'll call it mw-ravespam or mw-ravepreteenchat or whatever... :P

Ryan

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In a message dated 99-09-10 22:14:55 EDT, kevinryan@students.wisc.edu writes:

<< No shit.  I was under the impression that gabber
 almost doesn't exist in the US.  Has anybody
 ever heard gabber played out at a rave?  I know
 I haven't.  Hardcore, on the other hand, is pretty
 standard faire.  Most of what's classified as
 hardcore isn't even that fast, it just has a
 particular distorted/overcompressed sound on
 the bass drum kick.  I can't even name one
 person associated with gabber :/  But I can
 tell you that your typical Delta 9/Nasenbluten/
 Ron D Core selection is not it--most of those
 tracks have a comfortable mid-100s bpm count.
 It's easy to dance to.  It's certainly not the 700
 bpm gabbercore supposedly coming out of
 Rotterdam..Go to http://www.satelliterecords.com
 and listen to the tracks they have classified as
 hardcore...  It's almost all the same speed as
 techno, jungle, & other genres.  Hell, that Omar
 Santana track is slower than most house.  But I
 don't know much about gabber/hardcore, so fill
 me in.  Is there gabber around here? >>



The different types of hardcore are :
Breakore : jungle breaks orientated hardcore ,Artists : Shizou , EC8or ,etc
Speedkore: Fast and abstract hardcore .. at the same time evil Artist/labels 
: Death squad , Bloody fist , doormouse
gabber/hardcore : Slow and lots of synths (200bpm and under) Artist/labels : 
DJpaul,Lenny d,  and most of all the dutch hardcore
Happy hardcore : very happy basslines , happy synths , lots of vocals , 
basically happy, Artist :Paulina taylor , Phil free , deejaysd. sy , 

there you go ... thats my understandings of hardcore ... and im basing my 
opinions on my 5 year experience as a hardcore dj

DJSUER
NT+
..... hardcore sucks.....

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In a message dated 99-09-10 22:14:55 EDT, kevinryan@students.wisc.edu writes:

<< No shit.  I was under the impression that gabber
 almost doesn't exist in the US.  Has anybody
 ever heard gabber played out at a rave?  I know
 I haven't.  Hardcore, on the other hand, is pretty
 standard faire.  Most of what's classified as
 hardcore isn't even that fast, it just has a
 particular distorted/overcompressed sound on
 the bass drum kick.  I can't even name one
 person associated with gabber :/  But I can
 tell you that your typical Delta 9/Nasenbluten/
 Ron D Core selection is not it--most of those
 tracks have a comfortable mid-100s bpm count.
 It's easy to dance to.  It's certainly not the 700
 bpm gabbercore supposedly coming out of
 Rotterdam..Go to http://www.satelliterecords.com
 and listen to the tracks they have classified as
 hardcore...  It's almost all the same speed as
 techno, jungle, & other genres.  Hell, that Omar
 Santana track is slower than most house.  But I
 don't know much about gabber/hardcore, so fill
 me in.  Is there gabber around here? >>

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 any flyer design people out there or any contact info please get in touch 
with me.

thanks,
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   yo,yo,yo,,,
      wuts goin down all u krazie,hyped out party kids!!! ahhhh finaly back 
to knowin wut the hell is goin on in the rave world again...as most of u all 
know,the St.Louie list got shut off =(.....so here i am,an lemmie introduce 
myself,=). my name is Rachel,but most know me as RayRay,and im from beautiful 
St.Louis,haha,yea well anyways,i prolly know a majority of u all,,actually 
wut does the mw area exaclty mean,,like wut  states are up in this 
shit??ooooh man i so wish i could be out doin my thangiethangthang right now 
but i have the flu,which i know i picked up at Inerstellar,but o well cuz 
that was fuckin phatt.all i know is i best be gettin better before the 18th 
next weekend for Got Vibe =),,which i better see each and everyone of u 
there,,cuz u know me i gotta represent my city,,,where my stl kiddies at!!??? 
anyways imma bout to be up offa here so ill be hearin from u all soon,,,aight 
stay reeeaal!!!.........laters         
                                  love rachel aka rayray

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hey... thanks to mike for the info...

I'll be spinning LIVE tonite from 11PM - 2AM on KIWR, 89.7 the River

they have a net broadcast http://www.webradio.com/kiwr

the studio line is 712.323.4100   CALL IT!!!

heheh

werd

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--- Princess Applesauce In Da House 
> **anti-mud-lora**

I thought you were a "tuff girl".
I guess I'll just put you in the "like other girls" category.
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Hey, come check her, Wildchild and JoJo Rock at Spacerush in Cleveland on
Oct 9th.  These three ladies will rock all you rude boys and girls.


-----Original Message-----
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>Oh my god, Dayzee (the jungle DJ from the Uk, not that house crap)
>fookin kicked ass last night at club Babylon.
>And yes you were right Bary she is absolutely HOT!  Even my girlfriend
>wanted to get on her!  ANd her MC Chicaboo is hot too, what is it about
>female jungle DJ's?  Is there a prerequisite that you have to be
>absolutely gorgeous? (whoever wrote that clause i wanna shake there
>hand)
>Remember, Got Vibe is going on this next weekend (the 18th)  come see
>my ass tear it up, and bring your paddles!
>peace and chicken grease!
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 03:29:56 1999
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Trance is boring and I don't like it much. I REALLY PREFER SOME FUCKING GODFLESH!
 
TRUNK

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yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, (has to pause to keep from laughing himself onto
the floor)
all the rest of the St. Louis twirps are writing intro's and I didn't
(bastard) so I guess I ought to.
Im Jon Gotti (dugh), 
been living in this ghetto ass city way to long, 
been going to parties (mainly in STL)for between 4 and 5 years, and
have been spinning jungle/drum n bass (whatever the hell the name is
for it now) for around 4 years.
If you ever happen to see me on a flier here in the loui come, I'll
rock your fookin ass, 
and if your a promoter, book my ass cuz i need to get out of here more
often (too much PLUR for a dark head like myself) (have played out in
both Indiana, and Omaha).  If you need a tape hit me back at this
e-mail addy, Im going to be recording a live tape at Got Vibe this next
weekend on the 18th. 
p.s. Misha, bring your paddle, its time to play spank the candy raver!

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TRUNKalicious wrote:
> 
> --- Princess Applesauce In Da House
> > **anti-mud-lora**
> 
> I thought you were a "tuff girl".
> I guess I'll just put you in the "like other girls" category.

I CAN WHOOP SOME GIRLIE ASS IN DAT MUDPIT YO!!!!!!!

I'LL TAKE ON _ANY_ GIRL!!!!


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--- chris ege <crege@students.wisc.edu> wrote:
> http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~crege/id.html

I don't know what was better....
The way the pics made me remember what I missed and how
much fun I had last year....

Or Chris' commentary......








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4802810@skytel.com wrote:
> 
> So, you think Doormouse is HARDCORE? I'll show him the hardcore at WTW2 tomorrow night! He challenged...I accepted...WW3.
> Watch the worlds of CORE collide! This will not be on pay-per-view so show the fuck up!
> 
> That's right, bitches, posting from my pager on digest!
> 
> It's all downhill from here.
> 
> TRUNK

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RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >you're trying, aren't you?!
> 
> U know me ;)
> 
> Actually,
> SOME Hardcore tracks are really good...

like.........?

> But no one should base their whole
> lives around hardcore like some people on this board seem to do.

WORD!! ey dood, you should come out to East Troy on saturday! there's
this PHAT progressive-goa-trance party goin on at this barn........

>  It's didn't
> get the name "Gabber-HOUSE" for nothing.

YEAH!!!! it didnn't get that name for NOTHING!!!!!
WERD EM THE_FUCK_UP!!!!!!

you tell em brotha!!!

keep skoolin suckaz an checkin heads in da place yo!!

PLUR!!!
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RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Not to mention 99% of it sucks...

hohoho! you ain't seen hardcore REALLY suck till ya seen ME try ta spin
it bitch!!!

ummm.

when i can figgur out da mixer.

love,
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--- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> what is it about
> female jungle DJ's?  Is there a prerequisite that you
> have to be
> absolutely gorgeous? 

In my world, ABSOLFUCKINTOOTLY!!!!!

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>hohoho! you ain't seen hardcore REALLY suck till ya seen ME try ta spin
>it bitch!!!
>
>ummm.
>
>when i can figgur out da mixer.



buahahaha!!!

still pissed i missed dat, yo!!!


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--- Gabberizer@aol.com wrote:
i personally love it , give me something
> dark between 200 and 
> 400 bpm and i will go fuckin nutz 

Thatz my boy!
How bout that fuckin dub???

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Kevin M. Ryan wrote:
> No shit.  I was under the impression that gabber
> almost doesn't exist in the US.  Has anybody
> ever heard gabber played out at a rave?  I know
> I haven't.  Hardcore, on the other hand, is pretty
> standard faire.  Most of what's classified as
> hardcore isn't even that fast, it just has a
> particular distorted/overcompressed sound on
> the bass drum kick.  I can't even name one
> person associated with gabber :/  But I can
> tell you that your typical Delta 9/Nasenbluten/
> Ron D Core selection is not it--most of those
> tracks have a comfortable mid-100s bpm count.
> It's easy to dance to.  It's certainly not the 700
> bpm gabbercore supposedly coming out of
> Rotterdam..Go to http://www.satelliterecords.com
> and listen to the tracks they have classified as
> hardcore...  It's almost all the same speed as
> techno, jungle, & other genres.  Hell, that Omar
> Santana track is slower than most house.  But I
> don't know much about gabber/hardcore, so fill
> me in.  Is there gabber around here?

DOOD!!!??? that was soooooo forkin backwards you've gotta be trollin yo.
nice one.

--aRNO

np: Nasenbluten -Mid 100's BPM Brick Shithouse
next up: 800 BPM OG Dutch-Style Gabber
 
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ok Chrise you will die...dont worry your day is coming and i will find a
good pic of you to post...sucka

James

At 01:31 PM 9/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>so i spent 2 hours in the lab on one of those new mac G3's with the
>painfully small keyboard and the stupid round mouse that doesn't work for
>shit scanning and uploading these pics.  you'd better all damn well
>appreciate them.
>
>http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~crege/id.html
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--- "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com> wrote:

> i'm a good boy... just ask around... i'm sure everyone
> will agree.  i'm
> innocent.

Yeah, and ask those same people about me.
I'm not an asshole, I just play one on mw-raves.
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--- PlasTicPorTal <ryan.d.summers@uwrf.edu> wrote:
> -------------ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES----------------
> don't just sit there on your ass and watch as people post
> meaningless
> comments!!
> post some of your own!!!!

Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
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--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>    yo,yo,yo,,,
>       wuts goin down all u krazie,hyped out party kids!!!

Normally, I would tear this girl a new ass.....
I don't care right now.
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  wut the hell do u mean tear me a new ass??? okay at least i aint bitin 
nobodys style hahahaha  ...get a life,dont try to break somebody for not 
talkin the same '"slang"' as u do .............some of u all just fuck my 
shit up,,,talk about some PLUR guys!!!!!!!          love rachel aka rayray

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Little Spanish Eddie <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> writes:
>DOOD!!!??? that was soooooo forkin backwards you've gotta be trollin yo.
>nice one.
>
>--aRNO
>
>np: Nasenbluten -Mid 100's BPM Brick Shithouse
>next up: 800 BPM OG Dutch-Style Gabber

???  Okay, okay...

Usually when I play the Brick Shithouse EP
I spin it at 33 rpms, I always thought it
sounded awkward at 45 even though that's
what the label says.  And the flipside goes a
bit faster than Side A.  But it still seems like
DJs typically spin Nasenbluten at the slower
speed (e.g. Stuck in Stallis the Slapper Side).

Are you saying Gabber doesn't go fast?  Does
the bear shit in the woods?  In *1991* gabber
albums were being recorded at 200-300 bpms,
and djs in Belgium spun them much faster.
(Imagine one of those on 45 or 78 instead of 33.)
At the same time in the US, techno/garage/house
was still poking along in the early 100s (with the
single exception of Moby's "Thousand").  It was
common for Gabba djs to push 800 bpms; I've
never seen/heard a hardcore DJ go anywhere
near that in the US (even though I'm sure it
happens), much less in '91-92.

My point was that a lot of what is being passed
off as hardcore these days goes painfully slow
(re-read my post and visit the link if you don't
believe me).  Gabber, at least earlier this decade,
was notorious for being the fastest sickest music
around.  Maybe that's all changed by now.  I really
don't know.  But from the reading I've done on the
early (1991-1994) Gabber scene in Holland, Gabbers
really did some crazy shit, and spun hardcore a lot
faster than *most* modern hardcore DJs seem to.  I'm
sure there's exceptions.

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At 21:12 10-9-99 -0600, you wrote:

>Gabber is not hardcore. Gabber is a subset of hardcore.

Okay... Sorry... Couldn't help myself... Gabber and hardcore are two 
differnt names for exactly the same thing. The term gabber became somewhat 
laden around 1994/1995, which is when the bigger companies here in the 
Netherlands started calling gabber hardcore. Same thing.

"Gently place the balls into the mouth and... hummmmmm."

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ok, truck is like the animals at the zoo, you don't provoke them, you
don't feed them, don't poke them with long sticks, you just sit there
and observe. Seriously though, trunk has seniority and if you just sit
back and watch he can provide hours of endless entertainment (ok, well
more like seconds of ammusment)
Just a piece of advice from someone who has been on this list WAY too
long.
Laine

--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>   wut the hell do u mean tear me a new ass??? okay
> at least i aint bitin 
> nobodys style hahahaha  ...get a life,dont try to
> break somebody for not 
> talkin the same '"slang"' as u do .............some
> of u all just fuck my 
> shit up,,,talk about some PLUR guys!!!!!!!         
> love rachel aka rayray
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i'm chilling at firstar on cottage grove road in madison.
data migration on a 56k connection sucks...could have been out of this fucking
place by 10:30.
also, i liked brooklyn center better.

stop by the branch from 8am untill noon tomorrow... you might catch a glimpse of
a preppy bald headed freak with a pager the size of arkansas (no, really...my
hip hurts).

carry on.

btw, i'm hanging out with someone you miss tomorrow.

peace,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 06:28:40 1999
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On October 9, 1999 in Indianapolis, IN...

SUBterror and The Purple Underground present:

SUBliminal

featuring extended sets by (in order of appearance):

J Cross (d n b-SUBterror) - his final Indy appearance before departing for 
enemy infiltration

Adam Jay (techno-SUBterror/Azure Records) - bludgeoning will occur

DJ Shiva (techno-SUBterror/The Goddess Complex) - fresh from terrorizing 
Interstellar Dreamfest...anything could happen...

Matt Bandy (techno & house-SUBterror/Alien Squad) - twisting the boundaries 
of techno and house, get ready to shake yo booty

doors open at 12 am...$5 at the door...no guest list (geez, it's $5)

Low prices...good music...NO BULLSHIT

for info and directions: 317.335.MIXX

supporting vm:

Azure Records 317.767.5962
Beatnix 317.335.4475



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 06:37:15 1999
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>>RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Not to mention 99% of it sucks...
>
>hohoho! you ain't seen hardcore REALLY suck till ya seen ME try ta spin
>it bitch!!!
>
>ummm.
>
>when i can figgur out da mixer.
>
>love,
>--aRNO
>
>BOy you betta be able to handle yo shit tomorrow...otherwise this nakedgirl 
>will have to kick yo ass!!

  B.T.W. For all you milwaukee kids the 2 of the cowboy djs will be spinning 
sat (thats today ) at 4pm at a block party on cnter st in the heart of 
riverwest...show the fuck up


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 06:40:50 1999
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> 
> Is it going to be some nice psy/goa trance party at silvester 1999 around?

For all the non-Europeans, silvester is New Years.

hee, crazy feriners.  =)

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>From: RAYJAY420@aol.com
>Reply-To: RAYJAY420@aol.com
>To: trunkout@yahoo.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw]Wutup kiddies!!
>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:21:26 EDT
>
>   wut the hell do u mean tear me a new ass??? okay at least i aint bitin
>nobodys style hahahaha  ...get a life,dont try to break somebody for not
>talkin the same '"slang"' as u do .............some of u all just fuck my
>shit up,,,talk about some PLUR guys!!!!!!!          love rachel aka rayray
>
>-
Hey maybe he meant it in a good way...a good ass tear can be the perfect end 
to a nice date once in awhile ;)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 07:07:48 1999
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hey, just wanted ya'll to know, I'm here again.. I'm sure I didn't miss much, 
other than the usual genre bashing and the incompletely publicized complex 
inside jokes... ahhh, it's good to be back on.  I'm stuck at skool with 7000 
clones of Ambercrombie wearing "individuals"   Where are the normal people?? 
oh well...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 07:21:40 1999
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where abouts is this abercrombie land of individuals. Mine is located in 
Columbus, OH home of the Buckeyes.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 08:02:59 1999
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I was walking along the U of M (Minnesota) campus tonight, looking rave as 
ever in my pigtails, old navy tech vest and  38' Kiks when some boy screams 
at me from across the street  "HEY!! Where the beats at?!!"

Jen (Sixtybus)

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>Why is it so COLD? its what SEPTEMBER?

    it was cold for one day. pansy ass! get used to it! you live in
Minnesota for christs sake!

>and why does that party this friday have to be 18+? just ignore all the
>little kids living in this town?

    cuz everything good has an age limit. when you're 18 you'll be glad
there is.

AND why does cynesthesia charge $13 for a
>tape?? doesnt it take like 50cents to produce? why why why why?


    costs more than that, and there's this funny little thing called
capitolism, see people want to MAKE MONEY. it's amazing, I know, but it's
true, they charge you MORE than it costs to produce, what you mean cynthia
doesn't do that for FUN? hmm, well I'll be damned... grow up dood, quit
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i went to the louisville party tonight by sanctum sound (i think?) and
actually had some fun. the sound system was a little lacking but the vibe
was pretty decent. dj booth played a wonderful set and i had a chance to
pass out some pre-flyers for our release party. a lot of nice kids at this
party, but i must suggest that they be more careful with their substance
abuse. it was really obvious in the bathrooms. i just hope nobody gets
caught doing stupid stuff like that. be more discrete pleeeeeeeeeze! i
didn't really get to hear anybody else perform. i suspect there were 300-400
people? (that might be pushing it, i'm bad at counting heads) ...

the major bonus of the evening was the $1 draft beer. sorry i'm a beer guy
=)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 09:46:35 1999
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yeah, book this guy...he's the shit, plus he wants to paddle the plurry asses 
of candy ravers. i'd pay to see that.
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In a message dated 99-09-11 00:59:02 EDT, Eye-D@zeelandnet.nl writes:

<< Okay... Sorry... Couldn't help myself... Gabber and hardcore are two 
 differnt names for exactly the same thing. The term gabber became somewhat 
 laden around 1994/1995, which is when the bigger companies here in the 
 Netherlands started calling gabber hardcore. Same thing. >>

THANK YOU MUCH ... now finally someone that knows what the fuck they sayin ...
to the rest , go back to school

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> Usually when I play the Brick Shithouse EP
> I spin it at 33 rpms, I always thought it
> sounded awkward at 45 even though that's
> what the label says.

Industrial Strength is notorious for misprinting labels... Brick Shithouse EP
plays at 33rpm...

>  And the flipside goes a bit faster than Side A.  But it still seems like
> DJs typically spin Nasenbluten at the slower speed (e.g. Stuck in Stallis
> the Slapper Side).

For the most part Nasenbluten doesn't really do speedcore (although a handful
of their tracks do fit into that sound.. Cocksucker, Ku Klux Kunts, Fuck
SF)...


> Are you saying Gabber doesn't go fast?  Does
> the bear shit in the woods?  In *1991* gabber
> albums were being recorded at 200-300 bpms,
> and djs in Belgium spun them much faster.

a lot of the early gabber stuff that I've heard from Holland was actually in
the 180-200bpm range... the fastest stuff that I've been able to track down
is Alles Naar De Klote by Euromasters which had a pair of 250bpm remixes...
in fact, a lot of the most influential hardcore of the period was much slower
(a lot of the early PCP material is 140-180).

> At the same time in the US, techno/garage/house
> was still poking along in the early 100s (with the
> single exception of Moby's "Thousand").

Hardly the single exception... some of the Probe records stuff was pretty
crazy... Cybersonik's Jackhammer/Machine Gun 12" (which fluctuates between
140 and 280bpm) is a good example... and stateside producers were doing some
pretty insane stuff with the acid sound (Woody McBride, Laura Grabb, Lenny
Dee, Oliver Chesler, Freddie Fresh).. in fact, a lot of those folks were
releasing tracks in Europe on labels like Labworks and Rising High... a lot
of this stuff wasn't strictly about speed, but it wasn't a stranger to it
either.

> My point was that a lot of what is being passed
> off as hardcore these days goes painfully slow

a lot of the new-style stuff from Holland does... but if you look into the
stuff coming out of France (Epiteth, Hardcore Intuitive Virus, Sans Pitie,
Anti-Kore, Karnage...), Germany (Napalm, Speedcore, Total Brutal) and other
parts of Europe (Headfuck from Italy is a good example, Loop from Austria).

> Gabber, at least earlier this decade, was notorious for being the fastest
> sickest music around.  Maybe that's all changed by now.  I really don't
> know.  But from the reading I've done on the early (1991-1994) Gabber scene
> in Holland, Gabbers
> really did some crazy shit, and spun hardcore a lot faster than *most*
> modern hardcore DJs seem to.  I'm sure there's exceptions.

over time the 'gabber' sound out of Holland grew pretty cliched... a lot of
the labels fell into a pattern of doing formula records and turned stale..
While Nasenbluten and the like were putting out tracks on Industrial Strength
and DJ Freak was doing some of the sickest tracks of all time for the UK
label Kill Out, DJ Paul was doing stuff like Rainbow in The Sky and
'hardcore' covers of stuff like Sunscreem's Luv U More... as for the speeds
of stuff back in the day... there's a lot of talk about how fast some of it
was... but I've never been able to track down much in the way of specific
tracks that were that fast (at least not stuff that made it to vinyl,
anyhow)...


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I'm not used to waking up this early... so there's a bunch of structural fuck ups
that I figured I should fix.

re: early gabber

> the fastest stuff that I've been able to track down is Alles Naar De Klote by
> Euromasters which had a pair of 250bpm remixes...

should say 'fastest stuff from that period'... although a few of you probably
know that I've got records faster than that now.

> > At the same time in the US, techno/garage/house
> > was still poking along in the early 100s (with the
> > single exception of Moby's "Thousand").

should be pointed out that Moby's Thousand is actually a vari-speed track that
starts out at about 140bpm and peaks in pneumatic drill range... it's arguable
that DJ Freak's track 1000 (from the DOA 2x12" on Crapshoot) is faster, but that
release didn't have the same sort of major label exposure... the 'fastest' track
of all time probably goes to Johnny Violent for the cut he did on Shocker, but
I'd suggest Freak's 1000 as the fastest track with discernable beats.

> a lot of the new-style stuff from Holland does... but if you look into the
> stuff coming out of France (Epiteth, Hardcore Intuitive Virus, Sans Pitie,
> Anti-Kore, Karnage...), Germany (Napalm, Speedcore, Total Brutal) and other
> parts of Europe (Headfuck from Italy is a good example, Loop from Austria).

(oops... I seem to have forgotten to actually conclude with anything here)...
anyhow.. if you look into some of the other labels I mentioned you'll find that
speed in hardcore is alive and well and that that it's not as centred
geographically as it once was... and thusly isn't dominated by any one country's
output the way it was in the past... some other labels to check out

Europe - Suburban Trash, Strike, Hangars Liquides/Horde Liquide, Blut, Fischkopf,

                S.O.D.O.M., Killing Rate
N.America - Distort, Addict, Deadly Systems, Beat To Death, Freakshow, LowRes
elsewhere - Kak-A (Japan), UHF (Australia), Bloody Fist (Australia), X
(Australia)


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> Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
> the daily but just reads....to reply to this post with
> "HI"....how many peeps got the balls to intro yersef?

ummm - hi
i'm matt and no one but i think like doris and bobbity know me.  i sometimes
post, usually when i'm bored off my ass and dont mind getting flamed.

<plug for n3rds>
i usually sit on efnet's wonderful #mw-raves and idle all day
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YEAH!!! what fishead said!

umm. that's what i was gonna say too!! ;]

i like DJ Torgull gabber.

-aRNO

dj fishead wrote:
> 
> > Usually when I play the Brick Shithouse EP
> > I spin it at 33 rpms, I always thought it
> > sounded awkward at 45 even though that's
> > what the label says.
> 
> Industrial Strength is notorious for misprinting labels... Brick Shithouse EP
> plays at 33rpm...
> 
> >  And the flipside goes a bit faster than Side A.  But it still seems like
> > DJs typically spin Nasenbluten at the slower speed (e.g. Stuck in Stallis
> > the Slapper Side).
> 
> For the most part Nasenbluten doesn't really do speedcore (although a handful
> of their tracks do fit into that sound.. Cocksucker, Ku Klux Kunts, Fuck
> SF)...
> 
> > Are you saying Gabber doesn't go fast?  Does
> > the bear shit in the woods?  In *1991* gabber
> > albums were being recorded at 200-300 bpms,
> > and djs in Belgium spun them much faster.
> 
> a lot of the early gabber stuff that I've heard from Holland was actually in
> the 180-200bpm range... the fastest stuff that I've been able to track down
> is Alles Naar De Klote by Euromasters which had a pair of 250bpm remixes...
> in fact, a lot of the most influential hardcore of the period was much slower
> (a lot of the early PCP material is 140-180).
> 
> > At the same time in the US, techno/garage/house
> > was still poking along in the early 100s (with the
> > single exception of Moby's "Thousand").
> 
> Hardly the single exception... some of the Probe records stuff was pretty
> crazy... Cybersonik's Jackhammer/Machine Gun 12" (which fluctuates between
> 140 and 280bpm) is a good example... and stateside producers were doing some
> pretty insane stuff with the acid sound (Woody McBride, Laura Grabb, Lenny
> Dee, Oliver Chesler, Freddie Fresh).. in fact, a lot of those folks were
> releasing tracks in Europe on labels like Labworks and Rising High... a lot
> of this stuff wasn't strictly about speed, but it wasn't a stranger to it
> either.
> 
> > My point was that a lot of what is being passed
> > off as hardcore these days goes painfully slow
> 
> a lot of the new-style stuff from Holland does... but if you look into the
> stuff coming out of France (Epiteth, Hardcore Intuitive Virus, Sans Pitie,
> Anti-Kore, Karnage...), Germany (Napalm, Speedcore, Total Brutal) and other
> parts of Europe (Headfuck from Italy is a good example, Loop from Austria).
> 
> > Gabber, at least earlier this decade, was notorious for being the fastest
> > sickest music around.  Maybe that's all changed by now.  I really don't
> > know.  But from the reading I've done on the early (1991-1994) Gabber scene
> > in Holland, Gabbers
> > really did some crazy shit, and spun hardcore a lot faster than *most*
> > modern hardcore DJs seem to.  I'm sure there's exceptions.
> 
> over time the 'gabber' sound out of Holland grew pretty cliched... a lot of
> the labels fell into a pattern of doing formula records and turned stale..
> While Nasenbluten and the like were putting out tracks on Industrial Strength
> and DJ Freak was doing some of the sickest tracks of all time for the UK
> label Kill Out, DJ Paul was doing stuff like Rainbow in The Sky and
> 'hardcore' covers of stuff like Sunscreem's Luv U More... as for the speeds
> of stuff back in the day... there's a lot of talk about how fast some of it
> was... but I've never been able to track down much in the way of specific
> tracks that were that fast (at least not stuff that made it to vinyl,
> anyhow)...
> 
> --
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"defunkt" <defunkt@hoam.net> writes:
>anyone else at work bored on a saturday morning?  arg.  at least i know i'm
>doin somethin tonight....

Haha...
I work as "consultant" in the Law Library computer lab
here on campus, and at times like this (Saturday
morning) there's not a single person in the lab.  I just
sit here for hours doing whatever I want.

Finally getting paid to check my email... :-)

Maybe, if I'm lucky, I'll even learn a thing or two
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> Maybe, if I'm lucky, I'll even learn a thing or two
> about gabber ;)

y waste yer time?

OOOOOOOO

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>   yo,yo,yo,,,
>      wuts goin down all u krazie,hyped out party kids!!! ahhhh >finaly 
>back
>to knowin wut the hell is goin on in the rave world again...as most >of u 
>all
>know,the St.Louie list got shut off =(.....so here i am,an lemmie 
> >introduce
>myself,=). my name is Rachel,but most know me as RayRay,and im from 
> >beautiful
>St.Louis,haha,yea well anyways,i prolly know a majority of u >all,,actually
>wut does the mw area exaclty mean,,like wut  states are up in this
>ut i have the flu,which i know i picked up at Inerstellar,but o well >cuz 
>that was fuckin phatt.all i know is i best be gettin better >before the 
>18th
>next weekend for Got Vibe =),,which i better see each and everyone of >u
>there,,cuz u know me i gotta represent my city,,,where my stl kiddies 
> >at!!???
>soon,,,aight
>stay reeeaal!!!.........laters
>                                  love rachel aka rayray



ok, not as bad a one of the recent newbies..but damn.   you all know how i 
feel about this.  now i'm gonna be sick in da MUD!


watup, mwraves in da house peeeps yooo!!!!!!!!

jesse



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exactly.  there's not much you can say about hardcore that is bad, unless 
you're one of those jazzy house people who think hardcore listeners are 
strung out and need to "chill....man"

i do think that the breaks hardcore that sounds like fast rap is bad, but 
that may even be thrown in the category of happy hardcore, which repulses 
me...unless the fast rap is a track by nassenbluten, but the track i'm 
thinking about is actually just a hiphop beat and someone screaming...(see 
delta9: unkind mindgrind)

jesse/fistful of glass

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 15:29:41 1999
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Jesse Settle wrote:
> 
> exactly.  there's not much you can say about hardcore that is bad, unless
> you're one of those jazzy house people who think hardcore listeners are
> strung out and need to "chill....man"

shutdaFUCKup anyway jesse!! what da fuck do YOU know?! NUFFIN!!!

...now go get me some cigarrettes ana girlie magazine fore i wack yer
sister in de ass wif a hockey stick again!!!!

beeeeeyatch,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 15:53:21 1999
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             hahaaha this jesse kid really just doesnt know now does 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 16:06:45 1999
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Actually Hardcore is what we americans called dutch GabberHaus.  The
originaol hardcore is British breakbeat.

Oh and btw as a former gabber dj I never saw a record much over 250 bpm and
I played most tracks at about 180-190.  thats a nice comfortable, easily
dancable speed.

tim

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>In a message dated 99-09-11 00:59:02 EDT, Eye-D@zeelandnet.nl writes:
>
><< Okay... Sorry... Couldn't help myself... Gabber and hardcore are two
> differnt names for exactly the same thing. The term gabber became somewhat
> laden around 1994/1995, which is when the bigger companies here in the
> Netherlands started calling gabber hardcore. Same thing. >>
>
>THANK YOU MUCH ... now finally someone that knows what the fuck they sayin
...
>to the rest , go back to school
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 16:14:02 1999
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alright kidz,

i've just decided...gonna drive up to toronto to see gaetek and marco
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 16:45:39 1999
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'sup freaks...

  Consider this my 'formal' introduction... I've been wanting to join for a
while, but I've procrastinating hardcore...nothing like getting your
hometown mailing list shutdown to give a little incintive...My name (like
you can't tell from the mail addy) is Daniel, I hail from St.Louis (the city
of love...in the state of Misery), and have been keeping up with these kinds
of lists ever since I found out that I can flagrantly abuse my e-mail and
internet at work(since I have no computer @ home), and not get caught. I've
been on this list for about 4 hours now so I definately fall into the newbie
category as far as mailing lists go, but you'll hear more from me, sometimes
it's hard to find the time to reply/post shit, but if something is on my
mind, I'll say it(and get paid while I'm doing it too!!!!
mwouaaaa-haaa-haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa)


Are there any writers on this list, or did anyone go to Paint Louis, or was
everyone too busy getting mind-fucked by the wizard of sickness @ dreamfest?
The expo meant alot, but I know where I was.....gooooooo Richie!!!!!

///D@/\/|3L\\\

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org
> [mailto:mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of defunkt
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 9:16 AM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [mw] newbie reporting in SIR! or something
>
>
> > Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
> > the daily but just reads....to reply to this post with
> > "HI"....how many peeps got the balls to intro yersef?
>
> ummm - hi
> i'm matt and no one but i think like doris and bobbity know me.
> i sometimes
> post, usually when i'm bored off my ass and dont mind getting flamed.
>
> <plug for n3rds>
> i usually sit on efnet's wonderful #mw-raves and idle all day
> </plug for n3rds>
>
> anyone else at work bored on a saturday morning?  arg.  at least
> i know i'm
> doin somethin tonight....
>
> peace
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 17:13:59 1999
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hey, i have an idea.  let's change our name to
neo-stl-raves-with-some-chumps-from-the-rest-of-the-mw-list.  wheee!!
hey are ppl gonna get pissed now if info is posted that's not pertinent to
st. louis and surrounding areas?  cause, you know, who wants to hear
about areas in the minority, like the rest of the mw....
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Daaaamn.... Thanks for the warm welcome, It's good to know made soooo many
friends already...

plur....right doris?

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> hey, i have an idea.  let's change our name to
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 17:34:28 1999
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Yea, when did hardcore start getting so slow?  Oh well, I just wrote a
song that's 524BPM and the bass drum is still intelligible... Time to go
faster. :)

And what's with all this slow ass party core?  If it's under 160 it's
DEFINITELY not hardcore. :)

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oh no!!
i got this pre-flyer a while ago for a party on 9/11 featuring dj rap as
the headliner.  i was planning on taking some kids to it tonite, but just
called the info line, and there is no mention of the party whatsoever.
(i never did see the real flyer, but just figured i was outta the loop)

does anybody know what's up with that?  it was gonna be called
"emergency," and put on by crystal productions in detroit.  has it been
cancelled?  has the info line just not been updated?  what?!

if anybody could enlighten me by tonight, i'd really appreciate it.
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Little Spanish Eddie wrote:
> I CAN WHOOP SOME GIRLIE ASS IN DAT MUDPIT YO!!!!!!!
> 
> I'LL TAKE ON _ANY_ GIRL!!!!
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How Kaufmanesque of you.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 18:05:34 1999
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i have a question.. and i know it was in the letter we got when we first 
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how do i unsub?  or at least go to digest


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 18:06:58 1999
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There will be another TRUNK! Muh girlz got a bun in the oven.....stay tuned as the terror unfolds....
 
TRUNK

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anyone got direx for the shindig tonight?
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 18:13:01 1999
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does anyone remember when hardcore was jungle? not to confuse anyone,  but i 
think that both gabber and hardcore are dead, so neither one is going to beat 
the other in a cage match.  if you like the harder side of techno, i would 
suggest checking out history of the future,  that is if you like your music 
fast, cheap and evil.  as far as i am concerned,  if you say you like 
gabber/hardcore and listen to it,,,alot....alone....without your crew,  then 
more power...but if, when no one is around, you slip in that paul johnson 
(derrik carter, e-tones....) tape and think to yourself,  i cant stand beats 
that i cant get my groove on to,  then dont look back, stand up and say it "I 
hate Hardcore/Gabber,  they swore to me mental orgasims and all i got was a 
headache".... appologies to all those whose life is dedicated to the 
preservation of the beats that make my ears bleed (allied, hardcore prophesy, 
etc.)...

---oliver (recent transplant to chicago)
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doris <dpayer@umich.edu> writes:
>oh no!!
>i got this pre-flyer a while ago for a party on 9/11 featuring dj rap as
>the headliner.

Dude, totally go see DJ Rap.

She's HOT!

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> There will be another TRUNK! Muh girlz got a bun in the oven.....stay
tuned as the terror unfolds....
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> TRUNK
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congrats dood!  i wish you all the luck!  i'm moving to a small island
somewhere far!

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BubbIeGirI@aol.com wrote:

> i have a question.. and i know it was in the letter we got when we first
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> how do i unsub?  or at least go to digest
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godamn the last time we went through this jeff added a thing that is attached to
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Hey all you out there in this grand world.

I'm not new to the scene, just switching it up a little.
Formerly an unformal mtn raver by name of Antithesis, I come to you ready to 
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The faster music is, the better it is, right?

My sets range from 150BPM to 250, and I play Nasenbluten at 45. Oh wait, I
play some 90BPM breakcore records too. I think it's because I have this
problem when instead of hearing individual kicks, you hear a low tone
instead. Isn't that so cool?

Let's stop talking about hardcore, because it's really just for pussies.

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> talk about some PLUR guys!!!!!!!          


no please don't


stayin real reeeeaal,

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hello all
Im new to the list
I used to be on the st. louis list but thats down right now?  So I thought 
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Well, we've most certainly got a lot of ass. This is a review of Rural
Amerika's first party in a long time.

So, the gimmick was that it was $7 to get in, $5 if you showed your ass,
and $2 if you let a perverted, sick laughing motherfucker called Mike D
take a picture. Let's just say quite a few rolls of film were used.

Dave Siska-I liked his tracks a lot. Some really pretty techno and electro
mixed in with the more banging stuff. I chilled out to him for a couple
hours while guarding the side door. He's also a super super nice guy. Book
him please.

Kevin Vogel's live Pa-Well, the sound in the second room was kind of
shitty, even though it was the same exact system as the first. He was
doing some interesting things, but when you can't hear the midrange,
what's the point of techno?

Syntax-I missed his drumnbass set, but his techno set was very nice as
usual. Pretty tight, and very beautiful tracks.

Pepper Jackson-What can I say, she's a fucking jungle superstar.


My only complaint was the fucking LIGHTS. There weren't any! You could of
at least turned the roomlights down a little bit, or at least got some
colored bulbs for a little ambience. Luckily we found the dimmers halfway
through the party and made it just dim.

The afterhours was... interesting. Let's just say it was on the fraternity
side of town, and I refuse to ever go over there again. Nothing bad
happened, it's just not my scene.

And to wrap it all up: I give mad props to the Urbana scene for rebounding
from anything and everything, and still being a friendly loving happy
little bundle of fun. All the new kids coming on up are great, and there's
always promoters to fill the gap. We fucking love music and partying down
here, and I encourage all of you out of town fucks to come down here and
hang for a change of pace. There will be parties on Sept 25, Oct 1, Oct
22, Nov 13, and Dec 4 that I know of for sure.

Keep up on the latest info at:
http://gro.rollin.com
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~demmon/sunshine.html

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I'm going to Hardcore Chicago tonight.  They've got at least 1 DJ that 
everyone should be interested in weather you like House, Techno or 
Hardcore... I think they left Jungle out tho, so you ruffneck Junglists may 
want to stay home.  
I mean... u gotta keep it real and be into only one music at a time right*?   
   
If u see a tall Mexican guy wearing a 
Too Live Crew hat tonight that's me.
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>--- Princess Applesauce In Da House
> > **anti-mud-lora**
>
>I thought you were a "tuff girl".
>I guess I'll just put you in the "like other girls" category.
>===

i am NOT like other girls...i just dont like being hit inthe face with 
mud...i do wanna see the pics though...i know you all love me so mucha nd 
you want me therebut its just not gonna happen...
boo fukkin hoo....
get over it...
later mud-fukks
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>I CAN WHOOP SOME GIRLIE ASS IN DAT MUDPIT YO!!!!!!!
>
>I'LL TAKE ON _ANY_ GIRL!!!!

but you wont be taking on me....im not going....maybe next time....
psshh yeah right...im not goin in any mud...
im proud to be a pussy...
eat a dick yall*  =)
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>how do i unsub?  or at least go to digest

ok, see the little blue words at the bottom of this very mail???
click them with your little pointy thingy.....
your resident cynical bitch...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 20:49:38 1999
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I think it is cool as hell that there are finally some kids from St.
Louis on the list.  I think there were a total of 5 or so before the
St. Louis list got turned off.  

St. Louis represent!

--- doris <dpayer@umich.edu> wrote:
> hey, i have an idea.  let's change our name to
> neo-stl-raves-with-some-chumps-from-the-rest-of-the-mw-list.
>  wheee!!
> hey are ppl gonna get pissed now if info is posted
> that's not pertinent to
> st. louis and surrounding areas?  cause, you know,
> who wants to hear
> about areas in the minority, like the rest of the
> mw....
> plur
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Trying to figure out some really dark djs for a future event...Anyone know
of any darkwave, deathtrance or extremely dark djs of any genre? (already
know fishead, eye-d, e-sassin can get there :) but curious about some leads
to others..dark, twisted...not evil (what is evil anyways? :) is what i am
interested in (feel free to contact me to send tapes if you get down to the
dark side :).
love & darkness (hehe),

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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Jeffz wrote:
> Trying to figure out some really dark djs for a future event...Anyone know

Dark?!!
Oh damn!  Why's it alwayz got ta be all about the color?!!  Damn,
promotahs always tryin' ta keep the white boyeee down!
You think cuz I be light n' stuff that I ain't got no rhythm ta mix?  Ya
prolly think I cain't jump n' shit neither!

Damn, best not be lettin' me see yer face in my tuba class, homey.

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Hey!
Hit me back.  I lost your e mail address :)

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any part-ees goin on in detroit this weekend???? There hasnt been very many 
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hello all...I've been on this list for the past year...don't usually post
much cuz I don't see the point to saying something if you don't have
anything important to say (hint, hint)...this list is like a drug...I can't
seem to stop reading inane mw posts...help me someone, anyone???

seriously though, my name's Nathan, I live in St. Louis...I am NOT a
candykid like many I know...I was at ID this last weekend...it rocked, nuff
said...basically I go to school and promote with everyone's favorite crew...

that's all I care to say...maybe I'll post again within the next
year...please keep the insanity up...I've got ethernet and a delete
button...hehe

oh, and there's a baby Trunk on the way?  Is he gonna come out flipping the
world off?  May the Gods save us all


***FRIENDLY REMIDER***
This Weekend
St. Louis
*Got Vibe?*


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 11 23:19:49 1999
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>Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
>the daily but just reads....to reply to this post with
>"HI"....how many peeps got the balls to intro yersef?

okay, since i've posted a grand total of.... once! (and that was just to
bitch about clandestine) i suppose i fit into that category.  i read the
digest, and laugh at you people often.  i'm karolyn, i go to university of
dayton, which i do believe has the highest concentration of
tube-tops/flare-pants in the world, well maybe in ohio, um.. at least in
dayton.

oh wait, i forgot.  "HI"

karolyn (who is feeling rather silly because she replied to a post where
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this shit was way too funny...

http://dnj.edge.net/index.ez?viewStory=4885


man i wish they had one of those youth conferences designed to help
children cope with life this weekend close to me... *sniffle*... and i was
just making a breakthrough in group!  :P

enjoy :)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 12 00:12:52 1999
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i go by adam_louis

cause louis is my middle
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i finally got on the list
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I would first like to thank all of the newbies who have answered the call 
and finally posted something on the board.

I would secondly like to reply to fergus and say that I have moved from 
Denver CO to Beloit WI.  Since most of you won't know where Beloit is, I'll 
tell you. It's the smallest stopping point halfway between Chicago and 
Madison on the 90.

Third, I would like to tell karolyn that you have to learn to accept the way 
people talk or write.  But it's good you replied anyway.

My last statement will be to all.  Remember the good times.
(By the way, what's going on in Chicago next weekend?  I need some more good 
times.)




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Does anybody ever do this?
Example: i was goin though my old cd collection, came across Daft Punk. Well 
may as well give it a listen. Track 6--Fresh. This odd feeling i havent felt 
in a vast amount of time swept over me. I guess some may call this happiness. 
i call it weird. 

So is this normal? or should i stop stealing my sister's ritalin?

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Syceda Rhythm and Infinite Rhythm presents...

MIGRATION II
Saturday September 25, 1999
Kansas City, MO
Infoline:  816-920-3578

Featuring Smitten Recording Artists from the U.K.:

PUNK FLOYD
Chris Liberator (2 hour DJ set) 
DDR [Live PA]
Geezer and Roland the Bastard (first U.S. appearance as Tarball and
Lungbutter [Live PA]) 

n.9 - Lawrence, KS Acid Techno Sensation

and introducing High Lonesome from San Diego, CA


This night will provide an evening of acid techno and trance from
the U.K.'s leading producers. 

$15.00 w/ canned food donation

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Syceda Rhythm and Infinite Rhythm presents...

MIGRATION II
Saturday September 25, 1999
Kansas City, MO
Infoline:  816-920-3578

Featuring Smitten Recording Artists from the U.K.:

PUNK FLOYD
Chris Liberator (2 hour DJ set) 
DDR [Live PA]
Geezer and Roland the Bastard (first U.S. appearance as Tarball and
Lungbutter [Live PA]) 

n.9 - Lawrence, KS Acid Techno Sensation

and introducing High Lonesome from San Diego, CA


This night will provide an evening of acid techno and trance from
the U.K.'s leading producers.  A very rare Midwest appearance of
talent that highlighted Further.

Look for brightly colored pre-flyers at this weekend's events and full
page flyers in the upcoming week.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 12 03:00:34 1999
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At 12:43 11-9-99 -0500, atomly wrote:

>And what's with all this slow ass party core?  If it's under 160 it's 
>DEFINITELY not hardcore. :)

(How do I get lured into this...?)

Well... Hardcore did pretty well here in the Netherlands. However... 
*musically*, the stuff that Marc Acardipane (PCP/Dance Ecstasy 2001) made 
was always way up there. Dutch hardcore from mid 1997 and onwards has been 
nothing but severely watered down Marc Acardipane formulas.

It's amazing people still look up to the Netherlands so much... All good 
things are happening on the labels Fishead mentioned in an earlier post. 
All far from Dutch.

Eye-D

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Eye-D wrote:

> It's amazing people still look up to the Netherlands so much... All good
> things are happening on the labels Fishead mentioned in an earlier post.
> All far from Dutch.

i definitely have to agree here.  Los Angeles is all stuck on this fucking
bullshit that is known as "hardcore".  all of it sounds more like hard house.
fuck, there is some fucking booty ass latin house that is faster than what the
dutch are currently putting out.the hardest "name" dj out here is Ron D Core,
and shit, he usually plays pretty slow stuff.  if he is playing the harder
stuff, he still plays it slow.
there are a group of "unknowns" out here who play some hard shit, but all the
kids want pussy ass hardcore that "they can dance too".  fuck that, i want
hardcore that is a head fuck.
yeah i agree the good stuff is on the labels fishead mentioned.
i am soo looking forward to October 23 out here!  we are getting our dose of
proper hardcore from fishead, doormouse, and anonymous.  the only thing that i
hope is that i ain't booked to play at the same time as those guys so i can
check them out!  woo hoo!

>
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I still get goose bumps when i hear BlueMonday or TaintedLove.
Not to mention the complete flashbacks i get when i hear any of the RedSeries(Dave Clark and Aphrohead) or Spastik(guess).
I cant wait till I' bout40' when half of this shit is Muzak and i'm strollin thru' the mall in ma WheelieChair.

WEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!


Everyone go see "Idle Hands"
Jessica Alba is preeeetty fukkin unstoppable

owt...

RaVeR1420@aol.com wrote:
> Does anybody ever do this?Example: i was goin though my old cd collection, came across Daft Punk. Well 
may as well give it a listen. Track 6--Fresh. This odd feeling i havent felt 
in a vast amount of time swept over me. I guess some may call this happiness. 
i call it weird. 

So is this normal? or should i stop stealing my sister's ritalin?

-joe

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 12 06:27:54 1999
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> does anyone remember when hardcore was jungle?

hardcore and jungle both came evolved from the same style of music... british
hardcore spawned jungle, dutch hardcore spawned gabberhaus... imho, hardcore has
never pointed ot a specific style of music it's pointed to a desire to do
something that stepped away from the current trend.

> not to confuse anyone,  but i think that both gabber and hardcore are dead, so
> neither one is going to beat the other in a cage match.

have you ever had your pegs clipped all over your cock??

if not, then you're not entitled to an opinion... it's that simple.
don't waste your time trying to come up with something witty 'cause... like...
I'm drunk and shit... so I'm too busy laughing at my own jokes to bother with
yours.


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So it's 1am, I'm in limbo between getting back from a movie and going
out to the clubs, so perfect time to check my email- and DAMN do I
have a lot of it.  While I was away, looks like the entire stl-raves
list signed up- suddenly being on for a week seems like a long time. 


So now I know more about the history of hardcore, gabber and jungle. 
That should come in handy if they ever come out with a rave version
of trivial pursuit ;-)

What's all  this about brittney spears going jungle?  That would've
been amusing- too bad I didn't get past chris rock's racist and not
at all funny monologue.  Must be bitter his career's not going
anywhere- maybe he should try being funny...

Again, to all the st. louis people (and to piss of a few people too
while I'm at it):

yo,yo,yo,yo,yo...oh, he hell with it.

I guess this really isn't rave related.  This is the kind of crap
that comes out at 2am- it's time to go party.

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>Third, I would like to tell karolyn that you have to learn to accept
>the way people talk or write.  But it's good you replied anyway.

aah! is it just me or does that first sentence make me sound like a scary
narrowminded evil person? maybe it is just me.
but i didn't mean to come across like that, so, my bad. ;)

wow i'm up to three posts now..

Karolyn (who is in her freaking dorm room and not at deja-vu ... not the
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Hellz ya!  Taioed love! Woo Hoo!  You know that when you play tainted
love (remix by Soft Cell vs. Club 69) on 45 (as opposed to 33) it mixes
pretty damn well with Jungle!  weeeee!
And Blue Monday...mmmmmmmmm.... puuurrrrrrrrdrdrddrdrdrdrdr



> Not to mention the complete flashbacks i get when i hear any of the RedSeries
(Dave Clark and Aphrohead) or Spastik(guess).   I cant wait till I'
bout40' when half of this shit is Muzak and i'm strollin thru' the mall in ma WheelieChair.

 WEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kale/DreamSequence...drunk as sixtenn mutha fuckas... woo haa!



 
> 
> Everyone go see "Idle Hands"
> Jessica Alba is preeeetty fukkin unstoppable
> 
> owt...
> 
> RaVeR1420@aol.com wrote:
> > Does anybody ever do this?Example: i was goin though my old cd collection, came across Daft Punk. Well 
> may as well give it a listen. Track 6--Fresh. This odd feeling i havent felt 
> in a vast amount of time swept over me. I guess some may call this happiness. 
> i call it weird. 
> 
> So is this normal? or should i stop stealing my sister's ritalin?
> 
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there were a lot of things i liked about this party;  there were 4 things i 
loved about this party:

1.  Dirty Collings
   n.: impress dirty ass jungle dj.  I really dug his set.

2.  Anonymous(josh)
   v.:  to flail one's hands in the air wildly and grit yo teeth!

3.  Doormouse live
   n.:  the climax of the love affair between hate and technology.

4.  Cute ass candy girl gettin' naked in the mud.
   who gives a fuck.:  dood, she was hot to trot n all that jazz.
   i had to give her some gum to get that mud out of 'er mouth yo...dica was 
thinkin' about givin' er sumpin' sumpin' else to get da mud out hoes mouth.


then there was a whirlwind of all this other shit, all this other music, the 
booty haus tag team n' all.  Mad props to Lauryn*gimmejungle and 
playstation.  super dope props to girlie for having more balls than me and 
gettin' naked, mad props to shawn for running around in his birfday suit, 
but he needs to get a cute raver girl body.  chris, mail me privy for yo #'s 
n shit.


jesse


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ok, now i _think_ fits:  kevorkian death cycle on the RAS DVA label.  its
kinda darkwave/electro.  but its absolutly pure evil.

muaahaaahaahaaa

acidiz


> Trying to figure out some really dark djs for a future event...Anyone know
> of any darkwave, deathtrance or extremely dark djs of any genre? (already
> know fishead, eye-d, e-sassin can get there :) but curious about some
leads
> to others..dark, twisted...not evil (what is evil anyways? :) is what i am
> interested in (feel free to contact me to send tapes if you get down to
the
> dark side :).
> love & darkness (hehe),
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i hoped i wouldn't have to write something like this but i need to vent.

well, first i would like to thank those of you who attended deja vu last
night.  i hope you all had fun.  most importantly the space was RESPECTED.
this was our main concern, and everyone was absolutely great.  (for those
who didn't go, the event was held in a nice, large arcade with a even bigger
outside area)  twice the number of people showed up than we had anticipated,
but we kept the line moving and the space didn't get too crowded.  we worked
our asses off trying to set everything up in the very limited time we had.
we had from 10:00 - 11:00 to get it together, which we did <whew>.

now the bad stuff.  right around 4:30ish cops showed up and asked us
(nicely) to turn the sound outside down.  we sent a runner over to comply.
no problem, right?  well, at just that moment, some random girl runs out of
the bulding and grabs a can of pringles from the donation box.  she opened
it and flung it all around.  i'd like to add that this young lady's eyes
were pointed in different directions.  she then steps up to one of the
police officers and asks, 'i need more acid.  do you have any???'.

i felt like an empty tin can slowly crushed to the ground.  everyone was
stunned.  looked at one of my partners and was like 'did that just
happen?!?!'.  the cop answered 'yes it did.  this party is OVER.'

moral of the story:  no matter what, the stupid people always win.  you can
quote me.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 12 16:00:39 1999
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Get ready to go MENTAL this Saturday in the Twin Cities...

Sat, Sept. 18 Mile High, Communique, Depth Probe, and Compass will make
you go MENTAL!!!!!!

Direct from Sweden, two of the most influential tekno heads of the
nineties come to the Midwest (for real!) to rock and shock....
Cari Lekebusch and Adam Beyer-Hybrid Records, Sweden

New-school leaders in the world of drum n bass, pushing borders across
the world...
Adam C and Shimone-RAM Records, UK

Midwest favorite Terry Mullen, New York's Honey Miss Dijon, Merlin,
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Mountain, Fiat Lux, Mike G, Kani, The Karma Crew, The Digital
Perceptions Crew, and the Mile High Crew-Lil Ronnie, Nic D, Beef, and
Ken Earley.

We are bringing you the famous Soundburnt sound system, with ever MORE
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8pm-8am
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Can U really miss this party???????????


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I left WTW2 early due to "child-bearing" issues,I am moving back to KC, getting married, quitting Motorola, and a bunch a other shit has to be dealt with in short time....but none of the matters....THE FUCKING NFL SEASON KICKS OFF TODAY!!!

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What's it going to take before we take our scene back from the "stupid
people"? Are we going to wait until police and government make raves
impossible, until the only possible way to hear our music is in clubs or
in daytime events thrown like concerts without any dancing (because it's
easier to prevent drugs from being sold)?

We talked bout this issue at the Rave Summit at ID. Some good ideas were
mentioned. We'll try to get a review/summary of the Summit posted as
soon as possible. 

-- Robin 
Kansas City

acidiz wrote:
> she then steps up to one of the
> police officers and asks, 'i need more acid.  do you have any???'.
> 
> i felt like an empty tin can slowly crushed to the ground.  everyone was
> stunned.  looked at one of my partners and was like 'did that just
> happen?!?!'.  the cop answered 'yes it did.  this party is OVER.'
> 
> moral of the story:  no matter what, the stupid people always win.  you can
> quote me.

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> no problem, right?  well, at just that moment, some random girl runs out of
> the bulding and grabs a can of pringles from the donation box.  she opened
> it and flung it all around.  i'd like to add that this young lady's eyes
> were pointed in different directions.  she then steps up to one of the
> police officers and asks, 'i need more acid.  do you have any???'.

NO FUCKIN' WAY!  Ok, never in my life have I even HEARD of crazy stupidity
like that in full effect!  Acidiz dood, I send mega *comfies* to you.  
And if that damn gurl is on this list, you suck the major bone.  Stop
doing drugs, you shoulda gone to jail, and you are loser-burger from hell.

Ok, now I feel better about things. 
=)
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1.  fuck internet slime - someone already purchased - listen.to/entro - for 
reasons of the obvious 
2.  our new url will be:   http://beam.to/entro
3.  boring stuff was updated - bio, news, and a cute little picture.  
4.  trying to get new mixes, freestyles, and old tracks back up realaudio by 
the end of this week.
5.  debating on putting up mp3's of the new stuff.  let me know if you are 
interested.
6.  fuck the man.

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      ohhhhhhh naw,,, Hold the fuck up on that one!!!
     Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,but u 
really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an callin 
em some kindergarden names for it aight....u know it's not like us party kids 
gotta take drugs to have fun and get a good vibe,,,which is wut all sober 
party kids think,,,it's just the fact it makes a back rub about 1000 times 
more intence,,and helps me keep my energy up all night from dancin hardcore 
as i do,which i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too.So i 
juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to 
understand to good =)~.well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus my 
beautiful St.Louis kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!
                   love rachel aka rayray
             

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GEEZUS FUCKIN SHIT!  It isn't about kids using drugs!  It's about kids that are
using drugs being irresponsible and MAKING SURE EVERYBODY AROUND THEM KNOWS
THEY ARE FUCKED UP! (PACIFIERS, PAPER FACE MASKS...)*  People that act like
this don't care about the music or the scene.  No wonder the police and
communities all over this country hate raves.  

As far as drugs enhancing back rubs, do you go to a concert to get a fucking
backrub?  Take your drugs at home and do your 'intense backrubs' there.  I know
it must be really fun to be in the middle of a dancefloor giving backrubs while
everybody stares at you wondering what in the hell kids are doing SITTING on a
dancefloor rubbing each other's backs.  OR GO TO A FUCKING MASSAGE PARLOR! 
There's a helluva lot more love in a place like that than there is at a rave,
well most of them at least. 

Kindergarden names?  More like a kindergarden attitude that provokes responses
such as the one you responded to.  Never in my life have I seen people try to
'show off' like kids at parties.  The worst of all are the kids who are there
for the drugs and them alone.  Why don't people like that just wear a shirt
that says, "HEY EVERYBODY I'M FUCKED UP, I'M COOL!! RIGHT?  THIS MAKES ME FIT
IN, RIGHT?"





--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>       ohhhhhhh naw,,, Hold the fuck up on that one!!!
>      Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,but u 
> really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an callin
> 
> em some kindergarden names for it aight....u know it's not like us party kids
> 
> gotta take drugs to have fun and get a good vibe,,,which is wut all sober 
> party kids think,,,it's just the fact it makes a back rub about 1000 times 
> more intence,,and helps me keep my energy up all night from dancin hardcore 
> as i do,which i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too.So i 
> juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to 
> understand to good =)~.well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus my 
> beautiful St.Louis kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!
>                    love rachel aka rayray
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i really shouldn't...its not like it will make me feel better.
ahh, why not?


>       ohhhhhhh naw,,, Hold the fuck up on that one!!!

holding

>      Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,

um, what i am has nothing to do with this, nor did i state whether or not
i'm straightedge.  but thank you for assuming incorrectly.  it helps prove
my point about those with IQ's in the double-digits.  they really do win,
even if only in their own minds.

but u
> really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an
callin
> em some kindergarden names for it aight....

did i??  don't put words in my mouth that i did not say. 'aight'?

u know it's not like us party kids
> gotta take drugs to have fun and get a good vibe,,,

i totally agree with you.  no need for me to add more.

which is wut all sober
> party kids think,,,

you like to assume a lot.

it's just the fact it makes a back rub about 1000 times
> more intence,,

this is very important.  sorry i didn't take that into consideration.
actually, the girl was getting a backrub from one of the cops, and he shut
it down because she wouldn't give up the digits.  i made up the rest.

and helps me keep my energy up all night from dancin hardcore
> as i do,which i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too

great.  this is not a discussion on whether drugs are bad or not.  i'm
squashing this now.  please re-read my original email and look for CONTENT.
i relayed a story about why a party got shut down.  i _did_ call this girl
stupid, in so many words.  she did get the party shut down and fucked up
1300 people's time.  well, maybe things are different in st. louis (i won't
ASSUME things are the same all over, because that would be unfair and
unintelligent of me) but in my area its not considered a good thing for
people to ask COPS for DRUGS!!!  how can you possibly defend this girl?
please tell you you are not for real.

So i
> juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to
> understand to good =)~

oh my god, you were that girl, weren't you??

.well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus my
> beautiful St.Louis kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!
>                    love rachel aka rayray

*sigh*  see, she won.  i dignified her trolling with a responce.  *looks
around*  maybe i'm the stupid one.  :P

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In a message dated 9/12/99 7:27:52 AM GMT Daylight Time, 
fishead@mb.sympatico.ca writes:

<< have you ever had your pegs clipped all over your cock??
 no.
<<if not, then you're not entitled to an opinion... it's that simple.
opinion about what, i thought we were talking about gabber/hardcore, i'm 
confused...
unless you are trying to metaphorically describe gabber as "clipping pegs to 
my cock", 
and if you are then we are in agreement.
<don't waste your time trying to come up with something witty 
advise taken
<'cause... like...
conj...prep...
<I'm drunk 
yep
<and shit... 
apparently
<so I'm too busy laughing at my own jokes to bother with
<yours.
appologies.  
thank you for your opinion on the matter and information you provided at the 
begining of your reply.  point taken fishead,  hardcore will never die.


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hi.  since i have been back in the mw for like 2 weeks and been on the
list for less i have all these chances to post.  ; )

my name is chad.  i live in lexington, ky (quite possibly the most
conservitve city ever)  and kick it at the alienquad events when ever
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> > don't just sit there on your ass and watch as people post
> > meaningless
> > comments!!
> > post some of your own!!!!
> 
> Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
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> "HI"....how many peeps got the balls to intro yersef?
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what are pegs?



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               wellwellwell...

       okay first of all......i totaly agree with u about the kids just there 
for the drugs,,,thats bullshit,,and i wish all those kids would just disapear 
from the scene,,but just to letcha know ,,i aint one of those kids aight!!now 
second of all.....talkin about the kids sittin on the dancefloor givin 
backrubs and gettin backrubs piss me off too!! when i was talkin about a 
backrub bein more intence,,,im talkin about after u just busted ur ass for 
about 30 minutes dancin and ur takin a break and   some kid or one of ur 
peoples comes up to u and starts rubbin ur back,,I SURE AS FUCK AINT GUNNA 
TELL EM TO STOP AIGHT!!!of course,,,if we're on the dancefloor imma tell 
em,,,yo lets move over here or sumthin,if not that would be like dissin wut 
im sayin.soo anyways thanx for BOMBIN me on that bullshit,,haha, when i guess 
u didnt hear wut i was sayin,,but now hopefully u do!!yea i coulda bombed ur 
ass right back but i aint that type of person....and if u thought i offended 
u for be drug free,,,,hell naw,,,,i can give u hellah props for choosin to be 
that way!!! 
                so save the drama fo' yo mama!!!!!!
          love rachel aka rayray

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           ooooohhhh my goodness......
    we have alot of misunderstanding on this list now dont we........i was 
NOT defending that girl in any way shape or form,,,,,the whole reason why i 
made the post wuz becuz of some kid who posted ,,,,some shit about it and 
said ,,drugs are stupid or i dont remember her exact words,but called anybody 
who did drugs at parties immature.so okay u just BOMBED my ass for 
nuthin!!!okay im for rill ...im alrady sick of this shit,,,,i think WE ALL 
need to read the posts just a little bit better before we decide to jaw on 
somebody okay kids??!! and yea ,,and as for assuming i wasent sendin that out 
sayin all u guys are drug free party kids,,,i was sayin to all those drug 
free party kids,,,,and about the assuming that all str8edge party kids think 
that we have to take drugs to have fun,,,,i say that becuz EVERY sober party 
kid ive ever talked to baout it says that!!!!!!!  soo thats that.......later 
                        

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>      Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,but u 

Mm, not knowing me makes it kinda hard for you to judge on that one, eh?
Prolly shouldn't make that judgement till you've met me.  

> really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an callin 
> em some kindergarden names for it aight....

I have every right to do so if that persons ability to handle themselves
under the influence affects mine or 1000 other kids enjoyment of a party
(or anything else).  Especially in this situation, where people paid money
to go enjoy themselves all night at an event, which was shut down due to
one person's (One damn person!!!) inability to control their actions.  

>u know it's not like us party kids gotta take drugs to have fun and get a
>good vibe,,,which is wut all sober party kids think,,,

Kind of a broad judgement call on that one, but for the sake of keeping
my train of thought, I'll just nod and smile.

i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too.So i
> juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to 
> understand to good =)~.

Oh I understand perfectly.  But everything your talking about doesn't have
anything to do with why I frown on this particular gurl.  I didn't say
"all you druggies quit doing drugs!"  And it isn't my opinion.  
Since making broad statements seems to be your style (sorry for the
judgement call on that), let me sum up my previous email in 2 comments:

1.  Don't do things that you can't handle.
2.  Don't screw with other peoples enjoyment.

>well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus my beautiful St.Louis
>kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!

Ciao ya krazy gurl... =)
And all you MWRavers...
And all phreaky St. Louis friends down there too.  

Ow... hangover...ow...

=)
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They go on your cock.

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 DJangelboi@aol.com wrote:

> what are pegs?
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Really?
Damn, no wonder why they make really bad suppositories!

shwew!
Kale

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drugs, drugs drugs.......
damn.... that's a real shame that some fucked up girl had to get the party
shut down.  I would agree that was one of the stupidest things I've ever
heard of.  But I wouldn't say that drugs were the sole cause of her
stupidity.  Maybe mama didn't love her enough as a child or something....
who knows and who really cares.....

Just outa curiosity,
I wonder how many people on this list are straight edge and how many people
use illegal drugs.  This will be my little survey.  Everybody can rank
themselves on a scale from 1-10
"1" being completely straight edge
and "10" being a total crackhead....

all in all I'd give myself a 6

and just to let all of you know, the main reason why I go to parties is to
hear music that I can't hear any place else.  I have produced tracks on my
computer and am currently learning how to spin.... I would say that drugs
play a very small *roll* in my life, but right now I've been to more
parties fucked up that sober... =( which I do feel bad about.  

I'll be waiting to hear from ya!

Ryan




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Anybody from MW-raves planning to be in attendance?
bar the fact it happens to be a Mile High Event. 
but with all this school goin on doest everybody just need a release?
catch ya there.

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Here's my take on the whole drug thing.  I have alot of non-raver friends how 
have house partys and when i go to a party that they through i usually take 
beer cause thats what they do when they party they drink if they did not 
allow me to drink then that part seems to me pretty lame...Now when i am at a 
rave i do what i do at raves now dont get me wrong there are times when i go 
to a raves sober and they are pretty tight but just like beer makes a house 
party more fun so does what i do at raves.  i think that drugs can just 
enhance the fun at a party...

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RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:

> talkin about the kids sittin on the dancefloor givin
> backrubs and gettin backrubs piss me off too!! when i was talkin about a
> backrub bein more intence,,

hooked on phonics werked for me!

> ,im talkin about after u just busted ur ass for
> about 30 minutes dancin

30 minutes?!???!?!damn, you have no stamina!

> and ur takin a break and   some kid or one of ur
> peoples comes up to u and starts rubbin ur back,,I SURE AS FUCK AINT GUNNA
> TELL EM TO STOP AIGHT!!!of course,,,if we're on the dancefloor imma tell
> em,,,yo lets move over here or sumthin,

wow, so you do have respect for others.  to bad you didn't understand what acidiz
was saying...i haven't seen anyone say anything about being anti-drug.  matter of
fact i would assume that the rest of this list (like me) are anti-stupid people
doing stupid shit while on drugs.
if you can't be responsible while under the influence, then maybe you shouldn't
do substances.

> if not that would be like dissin wut
> im sayin.

what?  what the hell do you mean?

> soo anyways thanx for BOMBIN me on that bullshit,

you spout off about bullshit, you are gonna get called on it....especially when
you make assumptions about people and their statements.

> ,haha, when i guess
> u didnt hear wut i was sayin,,

you didn't understand or hear what anyone has said on this subject.by the way
what the fuck does you getting a back rub while on some chemical have to do with
why this party got shut down?

> but now hopefully u do!!

no, you are dumb.don't breed.

> yea i coulda bombed ur
> ass right back but i aint that type of person....and if u thought i offended
> u for be drug free,,,,

what is up with the commas?and shouldn't it be "offended you for beING drug
free"?

> hell naw,,,,i can give u hellah props for choosin to be
> that way!!!
>                 so save the drama fo' yo mama!!!!!!

you brought the drama on yourself.

>           love rachel aka rayray
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Rural Wisconsin, that is.

It's on the calendar, but I haven't seen anyone post the information 
here.  The venue is big and out of the city so things should go 
smoothly.  It's also VERY easy to get there from Interstate 94. 
There's alot of parking space and a hotel or two nearby for those who 
don't want to or can't drive back.   It should be a damned good time. 
Wear straw hats and flannel farms shirts and hang with the locals!

 
Sat Sept. 25 . Eau Claire, WI . STARLIGHT

DJ Hurricane (formerly of the Beastie Boys, TVT Records, No sleep 
productions/ Atlanta)
DJ Ani (formerly of Dee-lite, Zoo York/ New York)
DJ Robert Armani (Dancemania/ Chicago)
E.S.P. Woody McBride (Communique Records/ Minneapolis)
Mindrive (Erotishock/ Madison)
Dieselboy(611 records/Teck-Itch/UK)
DJ Ack (Sheldiack, Drunken Masters/Oshkosh)
Jaypee (Drunken Masters/Menomonie)
Alfredo and Jiz the Goods (OHB, Minneapolis)
Elliot and DLO (Milkclub Productions/Milwaukee)

Pre-sale tickets - $20 At the door $26/ 25 with a canned food item.
Pre-sale tickets will be available at CYNESTHASIA/ 612 824-7126
Call Clone voice-mail for other pre-sale locations and directions to the venue.

Distance to Eau Claire, WI:
Minneapolis = 1.5 hours
Madison = 2.5 hours
La Crosse = 1.5 hour
Milwaukee = 3.5 hours
Chicago = 4.5 hours
Green Bay = 2 .5 hours
Duluth = 3.5 hours
Sound by Slamhammer
Lights by Clone Fusion
Visuals by Network 10 multimedia
Information lines: Clone - 651-649-4585, Network 10 - 414-256-1350



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RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:

>            ooooohhhh my goodness......
>     we have alot of misunderstanding on this list now dont we........i was
> NOT defending that girl in any way shape or form,,,,,

girl?  what girl?

> the whole reason why i
> made the post wuz becuz of some kid who posted ,,,,some shit about it and
> said ,,drugs are stupid or i dont remember her exact words,but called anybody
> who did drugs at parties immature.

no he didn't.  he said the girl was stupid.he said that the actions of one
stupid, immature person who can't handle their high caused the party to get shut
down.

> so okay u just BOMBED my ass for
> nuthin!!!

bzzzzzzzz......wrong.  you made stupid assumptions and generalizations about
someone's post that you didn't even read all the way through.

> okay im for rill ...im alrady sick of this shit,,,,i think WE ALL
> need to read the posts just a little bit better before we decide to jaw on
> somebody okay kids??!!

take your own advice.  you are the only one who read any post wrong.if you want,
i can forward you acidiz's original email about the party getting shut down.

> and yea ,,and as for assuming i wasent sendin that out
> sayin all u guys are drug free party kids,,,i was sayin to all those drug
> free party kids,,,,and about the assuming that all str8edge party kids think
> that we have to take drugs to have fun,,,,i say that becuz EVERY sober party
> kid ive ever talked to baout it says that!!!!!!!  soo thats that.......later

what the fuck are you saying?!?!?!?!?!?please sober the fuck up before you send
email!  shit, this part alone makes you look incredibly stupid or high, or both.
damn!-

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Has anyone noticed a few subject lines missing the traditional [mw]
prefix this morning?  or is my mail just fucked up?

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PlasTicPorTal wrote:

> Just outa curiosity,
> I wonder how many people on this list are straight edge and how many people
> use illegal drugs.  This will be my little survey.  Everybody can rank
> themselves on a scale from 1-10
> "1" being completely straight edge
> and "10" being a total crackhead....

i would have to rate myself a 5.  i do most of my shit at home cuz it's more
fun and i don't havet to drive anywhere!  occasionally i do shit at parties,
depends on my gut feeling about the party.i mainly go to hear good (hopefully)
music and dance.

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> I still get goose bumps when i hear BlueMonday or TaintedLove.
> Not to mention the complete flashbacks i get when i hear any of the
RedSeries(Dave Clark and Aphrohead) or Spastik(guess).


    There are certain things I associate with different music, I always
think of one of my ex's when I listen to Soul Coughing, I have a definitely
physical reaction (good) listening to Smashing Pumpkins' "Disarm", it's
cool... Pitchshifter's "Kill, eat, exploit the weak" (not actual song title)
always reminds me of my time in North Dakota, so yes, to answer your
question, certain music does remind me of stuff, but then again freshly cut
grass reminds me of my old house on 39th & 23rd, it's a psychological thing,
we associate all kinds of ridiculous shit...

      - Matt Murphy -
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hmmmmmmmm..... 
this is also a Mile High party right?
Zodiak is also that weekend and I haven't been to a Allied Substructure
party yet... Please help me decide!!!!

also, are there going to be presales for Zodiak?

Hey does anybody know when the last time they had a rave in Eau Claire was?
 Just wondering.....

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Drug Useage Rating:

1

What can I say...I party sober and am sober all the time.

Sober and Responsible Ravers Unite!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 12 21:23:45 1999
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> We are bringing you the famous Soundburnt sound system, with ever MORE
> firepower!

> Can U really miss this party???????????


    Am I the only one who thought soundburnt was just that? way overboard on
the sound system? I've been to alot of parties (yeah shuddup) and I've heard
alot of friggin loud systems, most leave a high pitched ring in your ears
for a day or two, but at soundburnt, after stuffing kleenex in my ears cause
I could FEEL my eardrums compressing, I still had a ringing till the next
wed, but it wasn't high, it was low this time. BASS ring... hmm... Any party
that wastes so much money on the system that it's painful and then makes you
pay for it at the door with higher prices is another party I won't be going
to. Besides, I think we've all been to the stupid convention center a few
times, when will the boys from mile high start doing things different? What
happened to innovation, improvement? I realize keeping everything the same
is nice and easy for a business trying to make money, but frankly as a
partygoer I really don't care about their business making money, I care
about partying and having a good time. Consider this a challenge to Mile
High; do something different, make some changes, your act has gotten
stagnant.

      - Matt Murphy -
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I think its they put RE: (subject) then [mw]
if the subject is long it wont appear in most mailboxes, just sort of cut off 
after a few words. Oh im not a scientician or anything, but yanno.
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oui.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 12 21:55:01 1999
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squarepusher is tom jenkinson (lived in london, i think he just moved north 
of the city though),  a man who loves fusion.  he started putting shit out in 
the mid-90s,  electronic drum programing is what they call it.  his early 
influences were mainly dub,  but later he got into 70's jazz fusion.  (miles 
davis, charlie parker, dizzie gilispe).  techno influences have been said to 
be LFO and carl craig.  originally signed on zoom records as the duke of 
harringay, he was later wanted by ninja tune, warp, and r&s,  but his 
friendship with richard james (aphex twin) his first album as squarepusher 
was released on rephlex.  in '96 he signed to warp and released many albums 
with them since.  if you like jazz and complex jungle,  chunky intelligent 
beats blended with crazy jazz melodies and harmonics,  squarepusher is the 
best there is.  (in my limited opinion.)

--oliver

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Once again....
Drugs? Drugs er bad.

M'kay?
 
TRUNK

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I am pretty much done with raving...I am serious.

I will take digest for as long as I can take it...if you need me I will be reached ETERNALLY at trunkout@yahoo.com

A LOT of changes are coming up for muh girl and I and I don't see myself having a 3rd coming back to raving..or mw-raves for that fact.

so...if ya need to get me..
trunkout@yahoo.com

Now....I'm REALLY going underground.....
 
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>     Am I the only one who thought soundburnt was just that? way overboard
on
> the sound system? I've been to alot of parties (yeah shuddup) and I've
heard

RIDER!!! ALL HAIL THE RIDER!!!

> BASS ring... hmm...

All thanks to THE RIDER!!!

> your act has gotten stagnant.

Matt, they are bringing Andy C for gods sake. Andy fucking C!! Almost better
than the RIDER!!

Brandon


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  All,

  Just thought I would let everyone know that ESP woody mcbride played at 
crobar on friday and will do so every 2nd friday of the month. Next weekend 
is DJ ICEY, and i think sandra collins, and maybe someone else.. Anyhow..

  His set started off really clubby(these kids would dance to anything).. I 
was kinda getting frustrated and decided that this was how it was destined 
to be, then all of a sudden...

  He started playing even worse clubby shit.. At this point I tried to stick 
my lightstick into my brain via my left eye..

  About an hour later, it finally got going.. Did I mention yet that these 
kids would dance to anything??? But, towards the end, it got extremely tasty 
and I munched up all the scumptious tracks that were played just for me..

All i can say.. MR. WALLOFBASS@aol.com, if you want my ass shaking all over 
the dance floor next time you are at the crobar, you better leave that 
clubby shit at home, and bring only the tastiest of tracks..

       Thats all
   Love to all,
        Dan Sharp

  p.s. JASON OR J.J.  you guys still alive???

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From: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
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Subject: [mw] Hardcore Chicago Review
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heres my quick review.
me & luis aguilera got to dolton around 1:45.   sounded good from the
outside got in and sounded like one big train wreck.  which we call
"southside murder"  which because they had 3 sound systems playing on one
floor at the same time... shitty set-up.  and why they didnt use the
upstairs i dunno.   we walk up and tron is playing on this small rinky dink
system which you can only hear if you are standing directly in front of the
speakers.   we walk to the "main" stage which was right behind tron and adam
x was throwin down.. very good!
then studionova came on and did a live pa.  it was good.. interesting but
got boring at some parts.  towards the end of the set he rawked tho.  nice
job mazi!   then that sexy kool crew came on.. all of them spun.. or maybe
just 2 of them.. anyways they threwdown, dope indeed.  lots of old skool
tracks as well.
skip threwdown. doing some crazy shit...
highlight of the night was soulgrabber.  that boy did a live pa which was
amazing.  we left half through it. cause of lack of sleep.

anyway thats my review.

mike


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hi, so I'm going to be in minneapolis next weekend, and I'm almost 
considering going to hyper or whatever it's called.

someone convince me that it'll be worth my $30 or whatever ridiculous amount 
they're planning on charging.  and remember that I'm well aware of who the 
performers are, and am looking forward to some of them.

adam beyer, cari lekebusch, and andy c/shimon...  sounds good but do i 
really want to pay something stupid to have my ears bleed for weeks 
afterwards?  and will there be anything more to it than just a big stupid 
open room with some speakers and lights at one end?

otherwise, I'm up for just hanging out with some of you hip minneapolis 
people on saturday night.  anyone?

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Hey all! I'm new to the list and just wanted to say HI. Anyone know of 
anything phat goin on in Detroit soon? Let me know. Later kids.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Sharp <kode_@hotmail.com>
To: acidiz@columbus.rr.com <acidiz@columbus.rr.com>; RAYJAY420@aol.com
<RAYJAY420@aol.com>
Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 6:09 PM
Subject: [mw] ESP review from CRO-BAR


>
>  All,
>
>  Just thought I would let everyone know that ESP woody mcbride played at
>crobar on friday and will do so every 2nd friday of the month. Next weekend
>is DJ ICEY, and i think sandra collins, and maybe someone else.. Anyhow..
>
>  His set started off really clubby(these kids would dance to anything).. I
>was kinda getting frustrated and decided that this was how it was destined
>to be, then all of a sudden...
>
>  He started playing even worse clubby shit.. At this point I tried to
stick
>my lightstick into my brain via my left eye..
>
>  About an hour later, it finally got going.. Did I mention yet that these
>kids would dance to anything??? But, towards the end, it got extremely
tasty
>and I munched up all the scumptious tracks that were played just for me..
>
>All i can say.. MR. WALLOFBASS@aol.com, if you want my ass shaking all over
>the dance floor next time you are at the crobar, you better leave that
>clubby shit at home, and bring only the tastiest of tracks..
>
>       Thats all
>   Love to all,
>        Dan Sharp
>
>  p.s. JASON OR J.J.  you guys still alive???
>


OH, did they decide to do a Pert commercial while you were waiting to get
in?

PFFTT!! Crobar..

hehe

Rob


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Subject: [mw] the whole drug thing


>Here's my take on the whole drug thing.  I have alot of non-raver friends
how
>have house partys and when i go to a party that they through i usually take
>beer cause thats what they do when they party they drink if they did not
>allow me to drink then that part seems to me pretty lame...Now when i am at
a
>rave i do what i do at raves now dont get me wrong there are times when i
go
>to a raves sober and they are pretty tight but just like beer makes a house
>party more fun so does what i do at raves.  i think that drugs can just
>enhance the fun at a party...
>
>-

I would do LOADS of drugs at parties if I could be relatively safe in saying
that I wouldnt die or get sick..
All you ppl who are about to say "Well, i NEVER get bad drugs", forget it..
Your brain is prlly able to fly offa exlax..

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go to reddog on monday nights.   slammin!

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [mw] ESP review from CRO-BAR


>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Sharp <kode_@hotmail.com>
>To: acidiz@columbus.rr.com <acidiz@columbus.rr.com>; RAYJAY420@aol.com
><RAYJAY420@aol.com>
>Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 6:09 PM
>Subject: [mw] ESP review from CRO-BAR
>
>
>>
>>  All,
>>
>>  Just thought I would let everyone know that ESP woody mcbride played at
>>crobar on friday and will do so every 2nd friday of the month. Next
weekend
>>is DJ ICEY, and i think sandra collins, and maybe someone else.. Anyhow..
>>
>>  His set started off really clubby(these kids would dance to anything)..
I
>>was kinda getting frustrated and decided that this was how it was destined
>>to be, then all of a sudden...
>>
>>  He started playing even worse clubby shit.. At this point I tried to
>stick
>>my lightstick into my brain via my left eye..
>>
>>  About an hour later, it finally got going.. Did I mention yet that these
>>kids would dance to anything??? But, towards the end, it got extremely
>tasty
>>and I munched up all the scumptious tracks that were played just for me..
>>
>>All i can say.. MR. WALLOFBASS@aol.com, if you want my ass shaking all
over
>>the dance floor next time you are at the crobar, you better leave that
>>clubby shit at home, and bring only the tastiest of tracks..
>>
>>       Thats all
>>   Love to all,
>>        Dan Sharp
>>
>>  p.s. JASON OR J.J.  you guys still alive???
>>
>
>
>OH, did they decide to do a Pert commercial while you were waiting to get
>in?
>
>PFFTT!! Crobar..
>
>hehe
>
>Rob
>
>
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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 RaVeR1420@aol.com wrote:

> Anybody from MW-raves planning to be in attendance?
> bar the fact it happens to be a Mile High Event. 
> but with all this school goin on doest everybody just need a release?
> catch ya there.
> 
> joe
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heyas! I'm planning on going. I live in milwaukee bu ill sill be there.
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heyas kiddiez. Tis jax, formally on this list as RavePunk. I'm living in
Milwaukee now so feel free to email me here. Where's Arno? email me boi!
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>mad props to shawn for running around in his birfday suit,
>but he needs to get a cute raver girl body.

Yo, thanks brother. But if I had a cute lil raver girly body, I doubt I'd 
ever leave the house.

Peas,
Shawn

PS: Anyone wit pics o' my funky lil butt, email um' to me hey.
rustynail@bigfoot.com

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  i amso sissapointed...those girlies were payed and all the did was 
play...me and ny homegirl  FUCT SHIT UP  and werent scared of a litlle 
gravel

I will write more about the evening soon but i need mo sleep....

ass all torn up
whendee


>
>4.  Cute ass candy girl gettin' naked in the mud.
>   who gives a fuck.:  dood, she was hot to trot n all that jazz.
>   i had to give her some gum to get that mud out of 'er mouth yo...dica 
>was
>thinkin' about givin' er sumpin' sumpin' else to get da mud out hoes mouth.
>
>
>then there was a whirlwind of all this other shit, all this other music, 
>the
>booty haus tag team n' all.  Mad props to Lauryn*gimmejungle and
>playstation.  super dope props to girlie for having more balls than me and
>gettin' naked, mad props to shawn for running around in his birfday suit,
>but he needs to get a cute raver girl body.  chris, mail me privy for yo 
>#'s
>n shit.
>
>
>jesse
>
>
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kevin m. ryan wrote:

>Dude, totally go see DJ Rap.
>
>She's HOT!


wow..way to reduce her to nothing but a piece of meat.

i applaud you on your idiocy.

try going to see a dj because of talent instead of tits...

let the flames begin...

dj shiva (who has tits and is not particularly "hot", but can wreck 
turntables...and that's what counts)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 00:12:43 1999
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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:49:57 CDT "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
writes:
>
>wow..way to reduce her to nothing but a piece of meat.
>
>i applaud you on your idiocy.
>
>try going to see a dj because of talent instead of tits...
>
>let the flames begin...


ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
have to question...

peace...

-pm-

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 00:15:43 1999
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haha,
true, very true.  she her chest does the talking.

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>On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:49:57 CDT "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>writes:
>>
>>wow..way to reduce her to nothing but a piece of meat.
>>
>>i applaud you on your idiocy.
>>
>>try going to see a dj because of talent instead of tits...
>>
>>let the flames begin...
>
>
>ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
>have to question...
>
>peace...
>
>-pm-
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 00:59:11 1999
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D_rug U_sage R_ating:

25

i do MAAAAADDDD fucking drugs!! whatever i can get my fucking hands on,
whenever i can get my fucking hands on it. right now i'm all loopy on
valium and morphene.
crank and scotch-gard are my current favorites.

hope that helps,
--aRNO
 
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in the room. Big bag of fuckin' drugs, a couple of fuckin'
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 01:08:37 1999
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IM about zero usage.

. I am too wary of some of the freaks with an iq lower than their age trying
to make the stuff and sell it..
Ive done em before and its been good.. I wanna keep it that way..

btw, im talking about the good stuff, not mj or any of that..

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 01:09:07 1999
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DJangelboi@aol.com wrote:
> 
> what are pegs?

http://poofin.com/arno/PEGS%20FAQ.txt


sheeesh.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 01:22:37 1999
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Um, yeah, RayJay, 

The kind of comments Acidiz and I made are not about a couple
straightedge ppl telling others not to use drugs. I am not straightedge,
and I try really hard not to preach my personal views about drugs to
others. This is about even being able to HAVE raves. If the
irresponsible drug use does not stop, many of us are afraid that our
music will be shoved into clubs and any parties will become sooo
scrutinized that it will be virtually impossible to have even moderate
drug use. WE must "police" ourselves or what little freedom we have will
be taken away. 

And it doesn't hurt to rememember that being able to take drugs at a
party is NOT a right. Drugs ARE illegal. 

-- Robin 

RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
> 
>       ohhhhhhh naw,,, Hold the fuck up on that one!!!
>      Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,but u
> really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an callin
> em some kindergarden names for it aight....u know it's not like us party kids
> gotta take drugs to have fun and get a good vibe,,,which is wut all sober
> party kids think,,,it's just the fact it makes a back rub about 1000 times
> more intence,,and helps me keep my energy up all night from dancin hardcore
> as i do,which i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too.So i
> juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to
> understand to good =)~.well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus my
> beautiful St.Louis kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!
>                    love rachel aka rayray
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In a message dated 9/12/99 3:46:54 PM Central Daylight Time, 
RaVeR1420@aol.com writes:

<< Anybody from MW-raves planning to be in attendance?
 bar the fact it happens to be a Mile High Event. 
 but with all this school goin on doest everybody just need a release?
 catch ya there. >>


No way.  I've had it with Mile High.  Never had a good time at their parties. 
 
I'll be in South Dakota with some cool kids at a Zoop party.

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> > themselves on a scale from 1-10
> > "1" being completely straight edge
> > and "10" being a total crackhead....

i'm about a 6...I love dancin' messed up.

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Hi, I just moved to the Midwest from Colorado.  This summer a friend of
mine started taking me to raves.  I am now now hoked, and would liek to
continue this experinece now that I am at college.  Any infromation any
one could give about the rave scene around Peoria and Central Illinois
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 01:40:21 1999
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>wow..way to reduce her to nothing but a piece of meat.
>
>i applaud you on your idiocy.
>
>try going to see a dj because of talent instead of tits...

shiva does it again!

congratulations!



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:00:37 1999
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can someone give me the scoop on whats up in the lexington area.  i
know aliensquad is here in town but is there anything else?  also
where to get choonz-

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:05:47 1999
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i would like to know what parties are coming up out there. Specifically 
Columbus... but any city is fine. Or if there are any good websites to look 
at. Also specifically the dates of sept 25, oct 15, 16, nov 6, 7.
just email me privately

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:05:51 1999
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I'm so happy to see all these new names on the list!  For awhile I thought
mw-raves was dying on me.  
Hopefully I'll get to meet some of you people in the future
I will be much more active with this list now that I have a job where I do
basically nothing but surf the net all day. Whoohooo!!!!

Keep the Newbies comin!!!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:09:48 1999
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>godamn the last time we went through this jeff added a thing that is 
>attached to
>every piece of e-mail that is sent on here including the one you just sent 
>that
>says "questions about this mailing list?" than right below in hypertext 
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>FIGURE IT OUT THEN PULL YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!

gage is long gone, genius.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:11:56 1999
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   uhhhhh well if ur talkin about all the time,,,,,,ide give myself about a 7 
or 8 but if one of those illeagal drugs ur talkin about the 
doeeeessshhha,,,then ide have to say 10,,,***i love u mary jane***,,,but i 
dont consider weed a drug,,,it's just an herb yo!!! 
   big smiles =)        love rachel aka rayray

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:14:05 1999
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At first I didn't think I had any chance of
getting with DJ Rap, but then I read this
article and it got my hopes up.  After all,
I *am* 100% American, and 100% man!

Now I just have to figure out how to get
her into my apartment...

http://www.getrealdetroit.com/9999/bassbetty.htm
(courtesy of Doris's earlier post)

>DJ RAP ON WHY AMERICAN MEN ARE BETTER.
>It's a well known fact that English guys are boring and ugly. I
>keep saying to girls in England, we need to do a swap because
>the girls in England are all really cool and beautiful but the English
>guys are like "Eww!" You come to America and the guys are pretty
>cute, so we need to swap sides.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:15:20 1999
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>Just outa curiosity,
>I wonder how many people on this list are straight edge and how many people
>use illegal drugs.  This will be my little survey.  Everybody can rank
>themselves on a scale from 1-10
>"1" being completely straight edge
>and "10" being a total crackhead....

666.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:15:23 1999
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SoundStorm - 9.18.99    Cleveland
check it
webpage with all the info
http://members.home.net/djgruve - Full Spectrum

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>i would like to know what parties are coming up out there. Specifically
>Columbus... but any city is fine. Or if there are any good websites to look
>at. Also specifically the dates of sept 25, oct 15, 16, nov 6, 7.
>just email me privately
>
>jackie
>
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       as in ben's words..........in this life I love,somethings I love more 
than others =)
   figure it out for urself        love me

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you got a problem.
there is probably a local chapter of NA somewhere in your local area.
obviously you smoke too much "herb" cuz it's affecting your fucking typing
skills.
is there a subtitling program on aol so the rest of us can read their mail?
just wondering!

RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:

>    uhhhhh well if ur talkin about all the time,,,,,,ide give myself about a 7
> or 8 but if one of those illeagal drugs ur talkin about the
> doeeeessshhha,,,then ide have to say 10,,,***i love u mary jane***,,,but i
> dont consider weed a drug,,,it's just an herb yo!!!
>    big smiles =)        love rachel aka rayray
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:19:33 1999
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hi =)

I was just gunna throw in my $.02  I think theres nothing wrong with doing a 
lil bit of drugs at a party, as long as you party RESPONSIBLY and safely.  I 
think its important that anyone and everyone chossing to do drugs at parties 
or otherwise be informed about the drug and know their limits.  I think 
people should try to be more respectful about their drug use at parties.  
Soem things dont need to be out in the open for everyone to know.  I have a 
BIG problem with people that are only goin to parties to sit on the floor and 
get fucked up, and care nothing about the scene, what happens to it, or the 
immage of the scene that they portray.  I personally know a few people that 
are like that...
I am not a xtraight edge, but i think its safe to say that i personally know 
my limits and my drugs.  Im not just at a party fer the drugs, and most of 
the time im sober at parties anyways...sorry if this is long and boring for 
you guys to read...

Much love
Gracie

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show me your tits, cunt!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:26:16 1999
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    uhhhhh ,,,
     that part that u cant understand is directed to a certain person!! so 
maybe before u sound like a stupid ass,askin wut the hell i'm talkin 
about,think about it first. Oh yea and when i said we all need to read the 
posts just a lil bit better,i was includin myself in that.hahaha an u can 
call me stupid all u want cuz i think it's funny,,,i know i'm a bit ate 
up,maybe a lil too ate up in the head but hey i do know wut the hell i'm 
sayin when i post,and if u cant understand a part,then maybe that tells u 
that it's my beef with somebody else.dont try to bring drama on urself,,which 
u are doin but i've decided im gunna be mature about all this,,and everythang 
else from here on out ,on this list since SOME people just like to start shit 
cuz they have nobody else to talk to.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:27:00 1999
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in an earlier post, for some reason, i referred to the upcoming party in 
minneapolis as "hyper" when in reality it's called "mental."

at any rate, anyone think it will be worth my time?

carry on.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:29:01 1999
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Well the thing is that beer is not illegal to consume if you are at
least 21 years of age, if the cops come to a house party and underage
kids are drinking beer then they can break up the party, usually they
won't make any arrests. Technically they can arrest the underage kids
drinking and the people of age that live at the house, but all and all
it's really no big deal, nobody looses any large sums of money and in
general nobody gets sued. Drugs ARE illegal and if a cop goes to a
party and sees even one kid fucked up or busts one drug deal they can
shut the party down, this in turn can lead to many arrests including
that of the promoter, confiscation of all the profits and ultimately
destroy a scene. 
Just think about it, you hear that a party got shut down and all of the
afore mentioned things took place, would you want to go to the next
party in that town thrown by that promoter? I know i wouldn't, I'd
probably even be a little bit sketchy on going to another party in that
city for a while. 
The situation i just described isn't entirely dissimilar to what
happened in my homecity, it's one of the main reasons i left, and i do
not want to see it happen to another city ever again. Most of you have
no idea what it's like to see the scene you grew up in be reduced to a
former shell of its self, and i hope that you never have to go through
something like that, so make a choice, drugs or your scene. 
If you want to do drugs do them at home.
Laine
P.S. this was not an attack on vent6, and is not directed towards him
specifically at all

--- Vent6@aol.com wrote:
> Here's my take on the whole drug thing.  I have alot
> of non-raver friends how 
> have house partys and when i go to a party that they
> through i usually take 
> beer cause thats what they do when they party they
> drink if they did not 
> allow me to drink then that part seems to me pretty
> lame...Now when i am at a 
> rave i do what i do at raves now dont get me wrong
> there are times when i go 
> to a raves sober and they are pretty tight but just
> like beer makes a house 
> party more fun so does what i do at raves.  i think
> that drugs can just 
> enhance the fun at a party...
> 
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> 


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:31:07 1999
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Sorry if someone posted this already, but does anyone know if there are any 
pages with Rave'm and Bail-E or Even Further pics from this year??
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:32:35 1999
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*starts rant*
*ripping new asshole mode on*
first you dumb ass, put the fucking bong down.
second, that was a private post directed at you only.
RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:

>     uhhhhh ,,,
>      that part that u cant understand is directed to a certain person!! so
> maybe before u sound like a stupid ass,askin wut the hell i'm talkin
> about,think about it first

why the hell was my name in the fucking recipients list then?  what the fuck?

> . Oh yea and when i said we all need to read the
> posts just a lil bit better,i was includin myself in that.hahaha an u can
> call me stupid all u want cuz i think it's funny,,,i know i'm a bit ate
> up,maybe a lil too ate up in the head but hey i do know wut the hell i'm
> sayin when i post,and if u cant understand a part,then maybe that tells u
> that it's my beef with somebody else

if i can't then how the fuck can the person that it is directed at?  and if you
are directing something specifically to someone, please use their name in the
mail.

> .dont try to bring drama on urself,,which
> u are doin but i've decided im gunna be mature about all this,,and everythang
> else from here on out ,on this list since SOME people just like to start shit
> cuz they have nobody else to talk to.

wrong.  wrong and wrong.  if someone makes an unjustified post (like you did), i
am going to speak up about it.  if someone like yourself makes comments, attacks,
or misunderstands someone else's post, then you are going to get mails about it,
regardless of what you think it is.if it's drama, then so be it.


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 Anyone have a review of Minimal State in Indy last night? I was 
 out of town, so I missed it.  I heard it was supposed to be really
 small and local, as far as Scareb throwing it.
     
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 02:39:06 1999
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im about a 4, or 3.  I dont like to be rollin at parties cuz then i tend to 
not have enough dancin energy, and i HATE that...but i enjoy doing shit if 
its like a house party, or small gathering of my friends...
Much love
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 03:08:26 1999
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> >DJ RAP ON WHY AMERICAN MEN ARE BETTER.
> >It's a well known fact that English guys are boring and ugly. I
> >keep saying to girls in England, we need to do a swap because
> >the girls in England are all really cool and beautiful but the English
> >guys are like "Eww!" You come to America and the guys are pretty
> >cute, so we need to swap sides.


hey i'd be down w/ that.  then we'd get all the blokes w/ the sexy
accents.  =D   swap all you must.  
**doris**

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----- Original Message -----
From: <RAYJAY420@aol.com>



>     uhhhhh ,,,
>      that part that u cant understand is directed to a certain person!!

ok, now all of your posts since joining this list have been incoherent and
mildly annoying.  i just wanted to know if you realized exactly how fried
you sound.  you will argue vehemently with myself, robin, and jared about
points WE NEVER STATED!!!  here is a simple example:  (person 1) hi, my name
is mike.  i like the color green (person 2) yo ya stoopid beatch, you know
dat peanut buttah,,,,,and jelly is way bettah than chocklatt,,,,,,cake!  ya
footy ass!  weeerd up to da underground retarded lunatic socciety!


so
> maybe before u sound like a stupid ass,askin wut the hell i'm talkin
> about,think about it first.

!?!?

Oh yea and when i said we all need to read the
> posts just a lil bit better,i was includin myself in that.hahaha an u can
> call me stupid all u want cuz i think it's funny,,,i know i'm a bit ate
> up,maybe a lil too ate up in the head but hey i do know wut the hell i'm
> sayin when i post,

no, you don't.

and if u cant understand a part,then maybe that tells u
> that it's my beef with somebody else.

hun, nobody understands what you're saying.  *kind smile*

dont try to bring drama on urself,,which
> u are doin but i've decided im gunna be mature about all this,,and
everythang
> else from here on out ,

werd.  lets see how long it lasts. *starts watch*

on this list since SOME people just like to start shit
> cuz they have nobody else to talk to.

*stops watch* oops!

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you are invited
to be the:

                BEST DRESSED

Saturday, October 30       Indianapolis

w/ Djs:   Dan Doormouse-Massive Music Source, Milwaukee
          Incubus-Riot Squad, Sarasota  FL
          Nauti Groove-Scrubbing Bubble Prod, Cinci
          Manifest-Offworld/Ever Fresh, Cinci
          Shiva-SUBterror, Indy
          Dave Wulle-Docile, Indy
          + more tba= suspense(Halloween in IN)

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From: "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
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>From: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
>Reply-To: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
>To: "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com>
>CC: "Freaks" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] RE:dj rap & the mysterious link between tits and 
>turntables
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:16:21 -0500
>
>haha,
>true, very true.  she her chest does the talking.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ .com <phlurgg@juno.com>
>To: goddess_one@hotmail.com <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [mw] RE:dj rap & the mysterious link between tits and
>turntables
>
>
> >On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:49:57 CDT "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
> >writes:
> >>
> >>wow..way to reduce her to nothing but a piece of meat.
> >>
> >>i applaud you on your idiocy.
> >>
> >>try going to see a dj because of talent instead of tits...
> >>
> >>let the flames begin...
> >
> >
> >ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
> >have to question...
> >
> >peace...
> >
> >-pm-
> >
> >DJ .com
> >international house of boogie/Midwest Nutzack Massive '99

very nice.  you just proved my point.  fuckin assholes...

shiva

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 03:18:11 1999
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bahaha
blossom.  just cause i called you blossom you get all pissed. jeez us
you tell me i look like screech would i get all pissed?

mike 

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>> >DJ RAP ON WHY AMERICAN MEN ARE BETTER.
>> >It's a well known fact that English guys are boring and ugly. I
>> >keep saying to girls in England, we need to do a swap because
>> >the girls in England are all really cool and beautiful but the English
>> >guys are like "Eww!" You come to America and the guys are pretty
>> >cute, so we need to swap sides.
>
>
>hey i'd be down w/ that.  then we'd get all the blokes w/ the sexy
>accents.  =D   swap all you must.  
>**doris**
>
>ps: do i look like blossom???????
>
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----- Original Message -----
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BAHAHAHAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!

i've only seen a pic on some website, but i'd have to say no because your
nose doesn't weigh more than your leg.

acidiz


> ps: do i look like blossom???????



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-----Original Message-----
From: dj shiva <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:14 PM
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turntables


>
>
>
>>From: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
>>Reply-To: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
>>To: "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com>
>>CC: "Freaks" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>>Subject: Re: [mw] RE:dj rap & the mysterious link between tits and
>>turntables
>>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:16:21 -0500
>>
>>haha,
>>true, very true.  she her chest does the talking.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: DJ .com <phlurgg@juno.com>
>>To: goddess_one@hotmail.com <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>>Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>>Date: Sunday, September 12, 1999 7:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [mw] RE:dj rap & the mysterious link between tits and
>>turntables
>>
>>
>> >On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:49:57 CDT "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>> >writes:
>> >>
>> >>wow..way to reduce her to nothing but a piece of meat.
>> >>
>> >>i applaud you on your idiocy.
>> >>
>> >>try going to see a dj because of talent instead of tits...
>> >>
>> >>let the flames begin...
>> >
>> >
>> >ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
>> >have to question...
>> >
>> >peace...
>> >
>> >-pm-
>> >
>> >DJ .com
>> >international house of boogie/Midwest Nutzack Massive '99
>
>very nice.  you just proved my point.  fuckin assholes...
>
>shiva
>

it's all good, when i play everyone looks at my tits.  i know the pressure
baby.  i'm not a fuckin asshole.  i am nice
shiva you still love me baby?   peace girl

mikey


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 03:33:39 1999
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In a message dated 9/12/99 10:31:23 PM Central Daylight Time, 
mattis@primary.net writes:

<< top Senate Bill 1428
 The Lycaeum's home page has been blackened in protest of legislation 
currently working its way through the US Senate. The Methamphetamine 
Anti-Proliferation Act of 1999, led by Senators Hatch and Feinstein, would 
effectively end free speech on the Internet under the guise of protecting 
people from methamphetamine. Publishing drug information on the Internet 
would become a felony, punishable by up to ten years in federal prison. 
Simply linking to a web site containing drug information will also become a 
crime -- so if the Partnership for a Drug-Free America were to provide a link 
to our site as an example of all they think is evil in the world, they would 
face jail as well. This is a misguided attempt to suppress the truth in a war 
where disinformation, censorship, and outright lies are too often the 
prohibitionists' main tools. If this bill becomes law, sites such as the 
Lycaeum and Erowid could disappear from the web entirely, and the door to 
further censorship on the Internet will be wide open.
 
 We urge everyone, regardless of opinion regarding drug use, to contact their 
legislators and protest this blatant offense to free speech. Let them know 
that the Hatch-Feinstein legislation is unconstitutional, ineffective, and 
fundamentally wrong.
 
 We at the Lycaeum are dedicated to providing the world with truthful and 
accurate information about drugs, regardless of political climate and popular 
opinion. We have faith that in the end, truth shall prevail and the crimes 
currently being perpetrated by our government will come to an end.
 
 Join us in working for peace and compassion, not a war on our fellow 
citizens in the name of drugs.
 the Lycaeum staff 
 
 
 
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HI


>From: TRUNKalicious <trunkout@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: TRUNKalicious <trunkout@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] CALLING ALL NEWBIES!!
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:10:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
>--- PlasTicPorTal <ryan.d.summers@uwrf.edu> wrote:
> > -------------ATTENTION ALL NEWBIES----------------
> > don't just sit there on your ass and watch as people post
> > meaningless
> > comments!!
> > post some of your own!!!!
>
>Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
>the daily but just reads....to reply to this post with
>"HI"....how many peeps got the balls to intro yersef?
>===
>TRUNKalicious  Mo'BASS  NSMM
>4802810@skytel.com  GET ME RIGHT NOW!!!
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>http://welcome.to/mobass.com  My crew and tracks
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after making a last minute email and a few phone calls, i was on my way to 
toronto, canada, to see marco corolla and gaetek.  through the tunnel to 
meet bekka at canadian burgerking(note:  they call a whopper w/ cheese a 
royale avec fromage)...

nice and long 4 hour trip which included a stop at a service station which 
had a wendys and three men speaking the language of tom green.  bekka and i 
had quite a bit of time to get to know eachother and it turns out we know so 
many of the same people from the list.  of course, she had never heard of my 
till yesterday when i emailed her.

the trip actually didnt seem to take so long, cuz we had fun time talking 
and me giving her a hard time about her accent.  we met her friend ian at 
his work, dropped off her car at his place and proceeded to toronto.

toronto is one of the coolest cities ive ever seen in real life.  bekka and 
ian both assured me it was like new york city but with nice people and 
cleaner streets.  there was more but im absent minded right now.

the space was a giant basement warehouse looking room with high ceilings, 3 
large stacks of good speakers and decent lights.  it was clean, the floor 
was solid concrete and the crowd was cool.  i didnt get offered drugs once.

gaeteks set kicked my ass.  it was some hard ass fucking tekno, with barely 
any mistakes.  great track selection, im definitely going to get a tape by 
him.

marco came on about 3:30 and had a nice opening tracking with people 
talking.  his set wasnt as hard as gaeteks in my opinion, which is good, cuz 
he had some tracks that blew me away.  excellent mixing and crowd control.  
he knew when to slow it down with some not so hard tracks and then spun some 
harder stuff and the crowd loved it.  i know i did.

i spent most of time in the vacinity of bekka, she was a great dancing 
partner, and she's real cute.

after the party, we went to ians to get some rest and then headed back.

it was great night and definitely left me with a good feeling.  plus i made 
two friends.

peace,

derik

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Just saying hey whats up! I've been on the list for about 3 months now and 
posted like twice.. my name's Sarah and im from the northwest burbs of 
chicago!
PEACE

>  
>  
>  HI
>  
>  
>  >From: TRUNKalicious <trunkout@yahoo.com>
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>  >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>  >
>  >
>  >
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>  > > don't just sit there on your ass and watch as people post
>  > > meaningless
>  > > comments!!
>  > > post some of your own!!!!
>  >
>  >Just as a test....I want each person who DOES NOT post on
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>  >"HI"....how many peeps got the balls to intro yersef?
>  >===
>  >TRUNKalicious  Mo'BASS  NSMM
>  >4802810@skytel.com  GET ME RIGHT NOW!!!
>  >trunk@public-enemy.com  My secretary
>  >http://www.wudang.com  My style
>  >http://welcome.to/mobass.com  My crew and tracks
>  >http://www.not-so-massive.com  My psuedo crew
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ARE THERE EVER ANY RAVES IN ROCKFORD???????........JUST CURIOUS

ME ;)~


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heres a flyer i picked up...dont know the promoters and cannot vouch for
them, but heres the info...

11/6/99
BALISTIC-CINCINNATI, OH
(513) 395-3619
VENOM / DJ BIZZ / JAY GOODWILL / TREVOR LAMONT / ROBERT CURCIO / PERRY ELLIS
/ GOATBOY / XIAN / BOBADOB / MANIFEST / RPD / MPH / BLONDIE / TIM MCMAHON /
ELEVEN 11 / GLAZE

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940B morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@hotmail.com
yahoo messenger: djoracle
new website: http://zap.to/djoracle

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> i would like to know what parties are coming up out there. Specifically
> Columbus... but any city is fine. Or if there are any good websites to
look
> at. Also specifically the dates of sept 25, oct 15, 16, nov 6, 7.
> just email me privately
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 04:40:36 1999
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> very nice.  you just proved my point.  fuckin assholes...
> 
> shiva


Doods!  We should catch DJ Shiva when she spins, I hear she's hot!


hee
*pokes shiva in the ribs*

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 04:43:52 1999
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As important as this particular fwd is, isn't there something in the
MW-Raves FAQ about just posting a website addy for info like this, instead
of sending a long as Fwd to the list?

This is my Fwd.
There are many like it,
but this one is mine.
=)
Kale/DreamSequence


On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 XxEntRezXx@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/12/99 10:31:23 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> mattis@primary.net writes:
> 
> << top Senate Bill 1428
>  The Lycaeum's home page has been blackened in protest of legislation 
> currently working its way through the US Senate. The Methamphetamine 


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 04:48:05 1999
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Some girl at Infiltration gave me this and i thought it was nifty so
i'm posting it.
           
                This Roll we Ride
Once the drug enters your body, the anticipation of what is to come
almost turns you on. Slowly you begin to feel your body transform into
happiness. Dance! Dance! Dance! - is all I wanted to do. The entire
experience was so heavenly, that each "person" I looked at had an
angelic glow (or were those just the glow sticks?) Well, every
wonderful emotion - all "rolled" into one. Bliss - is the word.
Anything icy became your best friend. If only the entire world could
roll. Everyone could be so happy and beautiful.
Oh, but wait. There's a whole other part: SEX. You haven't ecperienced
fabulous sex, until it is done rolling. There id something inside you
telling you to make your lover happy: and that's just what you do. Your
both feel that need, so you're working smoothly yet diligently to
please one another. Your body becomes full with sexual feelings you
never knew existed. There's no stopping you, you feel like it's your
reason for living and could do it forever. The sex was like an
improvised dance that we made up along the way and it feels so good.
Why did it have to end? Well, it didn't.  Rolling, rolling, - I was
still rolling. Dance alot more, check on my pals, then dance more and
more. Eventually this euphoric ordeal will be on hold, and we'll fell
like "ordanaries." But we know that it is in us forever now. There's no
denying it - you can hold the magic in your hand all over again with a
little pill we call X.
  Post Script - To my fellow ravers: spend all the time possible to
obtain what you're searching for, then never let it go.
    I love You Guys!
          Tifany
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 04:56:16 1999
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 SEX. You haven't ecperienced
fabulous sex, until it is done rolling. 

Hardly.
SEX on:
Crystal!!!!!!!!
Crystal+Acid!!!!!!
Crystal+Acid+TicTacs(E)!!!!!

Sex on E(pure E) is funny cause ya wanna do is lay around naked:)

HugsNDrugs mmm......

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I got 2 things to say about that :

1. what the FUCK is so nifty about that pile of tasteless horseshit wet
dream of some drugged out 14 yr old candy slut?

2. will these idiotic drug related posts ever stop in this PUBLIC
mailing list accessible by EVERYBODY? First we talk about trying to
preserve our freedom of speech and bla bla bla and then someone pastes
something this goddamn retarded and ruins the whole fucking thing.

get a life
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do you yahoo?

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>
>I got 2 things to say about that :
>
>1. what the FUCK is so nifty about that pile of tasteless horseshit wet
>dream of some drugged out 14 yr old candy slut?
>
>2. will these idiotic drug related posts ever stop in this PUBLIC
>mailing list accessible by EVERYBODY? First we talk about trying to
>preserve our freedom of speech and bla bla bla and then someone pastes
>something this goddamn retarded and ruins the whole fucking thing.
>
>get a life
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I tend to think so.

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d00d your crazy

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>I tend to think so.
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> << Anybody from MW-raves planning to be in attendance?
>  bar the fact it happens to be a Mile High Event.
>  but with all this school goin on doest everybody just need a release?
>  catch ya there. >>
>
>
> No way.  I've had it with Mile High.  Never had a good time at their
parties.
>
> I'll be in South Dakota with some cool kids at a Zoop party.

    that should be alot of fun, there's just something about parties in
little tiny towns that are just a blast, and they're cheap too! Tanya can we
see some info on this thing?

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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, whendee mesich wrote:
>   i amso sissapointed...those girlies were payed and all the did was 
> play...me and ny homegirl  FUCT SHIT UP  and werent scared of a litlle 
> gravel
> 
> I will write more about the evening soon but i need mo sleep....
> 
> ass all torn up
> whendee

Yea, I must say that Whendee and Rita or Tina or whatever her name was
really ripped it up in the mud pit...  This party definitely deserves a
review, but I have to get some much needed recovery sleep before I write
my big long review...  

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 06:21:56 1999
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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Little Spanish Eddie wrote:

> D_rug U_sage R_ating:
> 
> 25
> 
> i do MAAAAADDDD fucking drugs!! whatever i can get my fucking hands on,
> whenever i can get my fucking hands on it. right now i'm all loopy on
> valium and morphene.
> crank and scotch-gard are my current favorites.

Yea, aRNO, much like myself, was all fucked up this morning next to the
fire at WTW2...  I'm surprised anybody from that party made it home and
especially that any of us can manage to type now...  That's why hardcore
fans own the scene :)

I'm still not sure how I made it to Minneapolis, I just know I owe Emily
big time since I made it somehow...  I really wonder if that guy in the
field that was getting beer poured on him has any comprehension of what's
going on right now.

Anyway, I'd say that people on drugs can still enjoy music quite a bit...
sure, I do like to party sober and really get into the music, but
(especially with hardcore) drugs can really enhance the experience too, ya
know?  Sure e-tards ruin a scene, but that doesn't mean all drugs ruin
raving.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 06:28:53 1999
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whats the whole point of freedom of speech if every time someone talks about 
somthing 'illegal', sombody freaks out.  did i miss somthing? is freedom 
abusable, not by definition.  it is conforming to what you will to do.  is 
the rave scene so fragile that if somebody says (god forbid) something 
positive about drugs...publically,  that the "underground" will crumble 
because the government wills it so.  freedom of speech is one right that is 
given to us.  it is the right to express your opinion however you wish, 
without constraint, as long as it does not infringe on the activities of 
others and their rights.  this  part may be what dj tsar is concerned about,  
but why?.  your scene is not going to come crashing down because some "candy 
ass raver" wrote about what she thought was a positive experience on "X" at a 
party.  big fucking deal.   the internet is the newest way to express ideas.  
alow monologue to become dialogue through listening.... that's where 
education starts and ignorance ends.

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"jon dica!" wrote:

> gage is long gone, genius.

excuse i meant CHad
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 06:58:48 1999
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hey everyone, i used to be on this list, a long long time ago, when the prof. 
earache would keep the flames hot and the main concerns were drugs and the 
cops and ravers rights.  now i see little has changed.  just new names and 
new lingo.  
i hope things will change.  one thing that i would suggest is people 
educating more and bitching less.  try to give more insight on a dj than "he 
fukkin roks da hows" and "she gots tits but i dont know much about her 
music"/.. .  
anyway... i am currently residing in deerfield il, a near north burb of 
chi-town/  i recently moved from se mpls... where i will return in jan. 
(brrr,)  i love to dance to house (:paul johnson, gene farris, d. carter, 
e-tones:)  and love to spin hard techno (:bush, scandinavia, communique 
records, ... jeff mills adam x esp dj hell green velvet robert armani sven 
vath:)  
i respect the detroit kids (may mills atkins)  and the richards from canada 
(james and hawtin) and squarepusher... and i like to dance to jungle only 
when i have had a few newcastles and it isnt 
throwdownjumpupawshitdashitscomminatjajungle.  
i dont like hardcore,  it makes the ravers walk around in circles, confused 
and wondering what their parents are doing. 
i hope to be going to california for that music festivle on oct 9&10 with 
every headliner that never came to the midwest,  (squarepusher, jega, bola, 
moby, d. may, j. atkins, underworld, yada yada yada).. and a few roknrolers 
(beck, perry farrel, tool, yadayadayayayaydada).  anyone for a good ole 
fashion midwest caravan?

-oliver.  

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...and more importantly...why do we want to put them on our dicks???  jus'
wonderin'  

pj

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9.99 

I go to hear music I can't in other places, to dance my ass off and to meet
very very cool people.  Ravers seem so normal to me.

pj

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> 
> drugs, drugs drugs.......
> damn.... that's a real shame that some fucked up girl had to get the party
> shut down.  I would agree that was one of the stupidest things I've ever
> heard of.  But I wouldn't say that drugs were the sole cause of her
> stupidity.  Maybe mama didn't love her enough as a child or something....
> who knows and who really cares.....
> 
> Just outa curiosity,
> I wonder how many people on this list are straight edge and how many
> people
> use illegal drugs.  This will be my little survey.  Everybody can rank
> themselves on a scale from 1-10
> "1" being completely straight edge
> and "10" being a total crackhead....
> 
> all in all I'd give myself a 6
> 
> and just to let all of you know, the main reason why I go to parties is to
> hear music that I can't hear any place else.  I have produced tracks on my
> computer and am currently learning how to spin.... I would say that drugs
> play a very small *roll* in my life, but right now I've been to more
> parties fucked up that sober... =( which I do feel bad about.  
> 
> I'll be waiting to hear from ya!
> 
> Ryan
> 
> 
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cuz it's fun and erotic
or something
or
maybe they all just want to be like Bob Flanigan (R.I.P) and try to top him!
ha! good luck fuckers

Paul Doyle wrote:

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> wonderin'
>
> pj
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 07:34:56 1999
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ooopppss...I meant .99

always been straight edge when it comes to drugs

pj

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> 9.99 
> 
> I go to hear music I can't in other places, to dance my ass off and to
> meet
> very very cool people.  Ravers seem so normal to me.
> 
> pj
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	PlasTicPorTal [SMTP:ryan.d.summers@uwrf.edu]
> > Sent:	Sunday, September 12, 1999 3:31 PM
> > To:	mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject:	Re: [mw] deja vu + Survey =)
> > 
> > drugs, drugs drugs.......
> > damn.... that's a real shame that some fucked up girl had to get the
> party
> > shut down.  I would agree that was one of the stupidest things I've ever
> > heard of.  But I wouldn't say that drugs were the sole cause of her
> > stupidity.  Maybe mama didn't love her enough as a child or
> something....
> > who knows and who really cares.....
> > 
> > Just outa curiosity,
> > I wonder how many people on this list are straight edge and how many
> > people
> > use illegal drugs.  This will be my little survey.  Everybody can rank
> > themselves on a scale from 1-10
> > "1" being completely straight edge
> > and "10" being a total crackhead....
> > 
> > all in all I'd give myself a 6
> > 
> > and just to let all of you know, the main reason why I go to parties is
> to
> > hear music that I can't hear any place else.  I have produced tracks on
> my
> > computer and am currently learning how to spin.... I would say that
> drugs
> > play a very small *roll* in my life, but right now I've been to more
> > parties fucked up that sober... =( which I do feel bad about.  
> > 
> > I'll be waiting to hear from ya!
> > 
> > Ryan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Bob was tripped out!  I'll always remember when he nailed his dick to a
board.  Ouch! 



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> cuz it's fun and erotic
> or something
> or
> maybe they all just want to be like Bob Flanigan (R.I.P) and try to top
> him!
> ha! good luck fuckers
> 
> Paul Doyle wrote:
> 
> > ...and more importantly...why do we want to put them on our dicks???
> jus'
> > wonderin'
> >
> > pj
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DJangelboi@aol.com [SMTP:DJangelboi@aol.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:22 PM
> > > To:   mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject:      [mw] pegs?
> > >
> > > what are pegs?
> > >
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> 
> --
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>  ghettoe ass soundsistem famillee
>  friends of friends netwerk
>   g.a.s. famillee/f.o.f. netwerk website:
>    http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/
> -techno is my drug of choice
>   Ipso Facto Body Piercing:
>    http://www.ipso-factobodypiercing.com
>   Ipso Facto Uber-Goth online catalog:
>    http://www.ipso-facto.com
> "i'm so goth, i fart cobwebs!"
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 07:48:42 1999
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all hail Bob!  the true king of hardcore!
Bob makes meat look like a Barney episode on methadone!
Bob! Bob!  woo!
the man is the king.

Paul Doyle wrote:

> Bob was tripped out!  I'll always remember when he nailed his dick to a
> board.  Ouch!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jared griffith [SMTP:djnickel@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 2:14 AM
> > To:   mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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> >
> > cuz it's fun and erotic
> > or something
> > or
> > maybe they all just want to be like Bob Flanigan (R.I.P) and try to top
> > him!
> > ha! good luck fuckers
> >
> > Paul Doyle wrote:
> >
> > > ...and more importantly...why do we want to put them on our dicks???
> > jus'
> > > wonderin'
> > >
> > > pj
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: DJangelboi@aol.com [SMTP:DJangelboi@aol.com]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 2:22 PM
> > > > To:   mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject:      [mw] pegs?
> > > >
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> > --
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> >  friends of friends netwerk
> >   g.a.s. famillee/f.o.f. netwerk website:
> >    http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/
> > -techno is my drug of choice
> >   Ipso Facto Body Piercing:
> >    http://www.ipso-factobodypiercing.com
> >   Ipso Facto Uber-Goth online catalog:
> >    http://www.ipso-facto.com
> > "i'm so goth, i fart cobwebs!"
> >
> >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 10:29:28 1999
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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:53:23 -0500 "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com> wrote:
>ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
>have to question...

ummm...yeah....saw her here in denver last night....and uhhh...yeah she cheesed out on a bunch of her mixes....couple that with her whole attitude of letting  beauty work for her  (admitted by her in the article...not to mention the fact that she gratuitously told the reporter that she was taking a bath when he called to do the interview...)....i dunno...the picture don't look so good for her "talent"....the thing that sucks for everyone (male and female alike) is when people play off their looks like this instead of cultivating talent....brings everyone down imho...

fuel for the fire...(and bring on the chicks that rock the house regardless of looks)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 11:23:48 1999
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....the thing that sucks for everyone (male and female alike) is when people 
play off their looks like this instead of cultivating talent....brings 
everyone down imho...
>
>fuel for the fire...(and bring on the chicks that rock the house regardless 
>of looks)


that was exactly my point.  when people talk about going to see rap cuz of 
her tits, it not only degrades every talented woman dj who could wipe the 
floor with rap's ass (not to mention it makes rap herself look like an 
asshole for playing into it), it also puts money in the pockets of assholes 
who would overlook TRUE talent just to make a greasy buck offa some tits.  
that makes the promoters PIMPS, the people who would pay to see her jiggle 
her tits are now equivalent to JOHNS (and stupid ones at that), and talented 
women who put their hearts into what they do are left NOT booked and 
DEVALUED because of the whole sordid mess.

but i guess thinking with the brains in the upper half of the body wasn't 
the first line of action in this discussion now was it?

.the instigator.
   dj shiva

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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:09:27 CDT dj shiva <goddess_one@hotmail.com> wrote:
it also puts money in the pockets of assholes 
>who would overlook TRUE talent just to make a greasy buck offa some tits.  

ach...sad thing is that over 4000 kids (male and female) payed 25-30 bux to see dj rap here in Denver last nite...now...i can't complain TOO much...cuz i got paid for chill sound...(everybody'z gotta pimp sump'n)...heh...at least it gave me a place to hang out while all that hype was being slung....tha massive sceen here in denver is really no place to be looking for quality talent tho...[just imho]....
    
>but i guess thinking with the brains in the upper half of the body wasn't 
>the first line of action in this discussion now was it?

shoo.  if'n someone ever accuses the majority of ravers of actually <thinking> in the first place....well...lemme know kay?  =)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 12:10:21 1999
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Who the fuck cares about the freedom of speech? Freedom  of speech
doesn't mean freedom to be dumb and post NRR  drug-related e-mails to
mw-raves mailing list. Last time I checked those e-mails were posted on
mw-candyraver-geeks (Doris is the admin on that one:).

But seriously, I don't care about all this drug bullshit, but think
about what kind of perception that kinda stuff creates in the eyes of
an "outsider" so to speak, not necessarily some government
organization. And on top of that, last time I checked, drugs were
illegal. So even if some/all of us don't approve that state of affairs,
that's just tough shit. I think we should respect the law or at least
pretend that we do and deal with it. What we cannot do, however, is sit
here and yell about the freedom of speech and how if we don't post some
drug-related wet dream of some candy raver in mw-raves, we will lose
all the freedom we have. There's time and place to talk about any
subject, and a list with 100's of subscribers some of whom (including
me) may be offended by this crap is definitely not the place for it.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 12:26:28 1999
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It's pretty sad when you need a drug to make sex this wonderful.  Maybe I'm
just insane, but if wanting to please your lover and filling your body w/
sensual feelings is something that happens only when you're rolling, perhaps
you need to re-evaluate who you're fucking.  Sorry, but this post makes it
sound like the only thing that can make sex great is the aid of e, and from
my experience, that's just not true.

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>Oh, but wait. There's a whole other part: SEX. You haven't ecperienced
>fabulous sex, until it is done rolling. There id something inside you
>telling you to make your lover happy: and that's just what you do. Your
>both feel that need, so you're working smoothly yet diligently to
>please one another. Your body becomes full with sexual feelings you
>never knew existed. There's no stopping you, you feel like it's your
>reason for living and could do it forever.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 13:07:14 1999
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It's all about breaking party-core DOA records and fuckin' up the needle so 
the next DJ has to worry. That's not just being an asshole...but a true 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 13:50:37 1999
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Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com> said:

>Who the fuck cares about the freedom of speech? Freedom  of speech
>doesn't mean freedom to be dumb and post NRR  drug-related e-mails to
>mw-raves mailing list.

Really?  I thought it might.  I mean, historically, drugs have been a part
of the scene for good or ill.  How about a bit of tolerance for those who
might want to pass something on?

>But seriously, I don't care about all this drug bullshit, but think
>about what kind of perception that kinda stuff creates in the eyes of
>an "outsider" so to speak, not necessarily some government
>organization.

What a bunch of bullshit.  I mean, seriously.  Go the the Hyperreal web
site.  What the fuck is right there on the main page?    Here.. I'll
refresh your memory:  http://www.hyperreal.org/drugs/.  Gee, that's pretty
bad, man.. I mean, just THINK about what the general public is going to
think about us when they see that the people who provide this list has DRUG
information on their web site!  Besides, I think it's a bit late to think
about outsider perception.  The image of our "scene"  has allready been
created for us by the likes of Hardcopy, NBC Dateline, and a host of other
tabloid style television "news" programing.

>And on top of that, last time I checked, drugs were
>illegal.

So is oral sex in some states.  Do you think people are going to stop?


>So even if some/all of us don't approve that state of affairs,
>that's just tough shit. I think we should respect the law or at least
>pretend that we do and deal with it. What we cannot do, however, is sit
>here and yell about the freedom of speech and how if we don't post some
>drug-related wet dream of some candy raver in mw-raves, we will lose
>all the freedom we have. There's time and place to talk about any
>subject, and a list with 100's of subscribers some of whom (including
>me) may be offended by this crap is definitely not the place for it.


"that's just tough shit"?  "I think we should respect the law..."??  What
the fuck is that?  I thought that's the point of participating in
elections.  If you don't like a particular law or represenative, you have
the possibility of voting someone in who can change things.  I realize
that's a bit simplistic, but jesus man.  I may agree with you in that
posting to a public list material that might be considered incriminating
isn't the smartest thing to do, but it -=IS=- a public list.  People can
post what they want, offensive or not, as long as it have some sort of
relevance to the rave scene.  Like I said before, for good or ill, drugs
have been a part of the scene.  Not everyone has the same beliefs as you or
I, and many things that they say may be offensive, but they -=DO=- have a
right to say these things.

Sorry about the rant.  It's Monday morning, I'm hung over, I'm at work, and
I have strong feelings about this subject.   No hard feelings?





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"Angela Larson" <imaqt96@hotmail.com> writes:
>ARE THERE EVER ANY RAVES IN ROCKFORD???????........JUST CURIOUS
>
>ME ;)~

Aw, c'mon, Even Furthur '98 was practically
up your ass!

What else do you want?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 13:58:22 1999
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You are all mad, cause when I do drugs, I am cool, and when you do them. 
Well, you are a bunch of cracked out rock whores....

Maybe if you learned the art of looking cool when you did your drugs, you 
wouldnt have all these hang ups.

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W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. 99'
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dj's..

STATIC
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cia, normal/paradox,la

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inependent, chi

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hot mix, chi

YORK
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2 rooms.. lights and lasers by Quazar illumination..
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 14:11:59 1999
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Here is the E-Flyer for anyone interested in the South Dakota party this 
weekend.

Tilzs

Saturday Sept 18th, 1999
Zoop Productions presents:

_The Hills Are alive_

DJ's:

DMX (Denver, CO)
303 collective. He was in Rapid City a year ago where he tore it up
at "The Sound of Music" with his mad scrathing skills We've got him
back for an extended set on 3 turntables

Shahzad (Denver, CO)
Impulse Entertainment. A Colorado favorite, Shahzad has been rocking
the decks all over Denver with his energetic style of house and
trance. Prepare to be taken away by Shahzad's Hard Progressive House
and Epic Tance as he makes his first ever Rapid City, appearance.

FreakBoy (Mineapolis, MN)
Affiliated with Allied Substructure. Hard and fast is how he does it
and thats how you're gona get it when you get freaked by FreakBoy's
hard acid techo style.

+ Locals

Brian E
Willie
Isis
Fevah
Dr. Jekyell

Location: Buffalo Chip Campground. Sturgis, SD

Directions from Rapid City or Spearfish:
I-90 to Stugis. Exit I-90 at Junction Ave (Exit 32). Take Junction
Ave north to Laselle. Turn right onto Lazelle (HWY 34,79). Go 3
miles east on HWY 34,79 past Brown High School and Ft Meade. Keep to
the right on HWY 34 as it forks into 34 and 79. Turn right soon after
the fork onto Alkali Rd. The chip is on the right near the propane
tanks.

OR From Rapid City.
North on Elk Vale Rd (Exit 61 I-90) 22 miles north to the T in the
road. Go left 14 miles until you reach the campground.

Cost: $6 at the door

Infolines:
605.348.8932 Rapid City, SD
303.607.PLUR Denver, CO
651.257.7269 Twin Cities, MN

CAMPING WELCOME.
Bring warm clothes (may get cold at night), food and water.
DO NOT BRING ALCOHOL!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 14:13:23 1999
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> > I'll be in South Dakota with some cool kids at a Zoop party.

>    that should be alot of fun, there's just something about parties in
>little tiny towns that are just a blast, and they're cheap too! Tanya can we
>see some info on this thing?

>      - Matt Murphy -

Responding as summoned Monsieur Murphy!!

This Saturday, September 18th 1999

Z O O P   P R O D U C T I O N S 

presents...

THE HILLS ARE ALIVE

DMX - 303 Collective - Denver, CO
He was here a year ago for "The Sound of Music" where he tore it up with his
mad scratching skills. We've got him back for a special extended set on 3 turntables!

Shahzad - Impulse Entertainment - Denver, CO
A Colorado favorite, Shahzad has been rocking the decks all over Denver with
his energetic style of house and trance. Prepare to be taken away by Shahzad's
Hard Progressive House and Epic Trance as he makes his first ever Rapid City appearance.

Freakboy - Allied Substructure - Minneapolis, MN
Hard and fast is how he does it and that's how you're gonna get it when you
get freaked by Freakboy's hard Acid Techno style.

Rapid City's Own:
Brian E
Willie
Isis Fevah
Dr. Jekyll

Camping Welcome - Bring warm clothes (may get cold at night), food and water.
Do NOT bring alcohol!

Location:
Buffalo Chip Campground
Sturgis, SD

Cost: $6

Info Lines:
605.348.8932  Rapid City, SD
303.607.PLUR  Denver, CO
651.257.7269  Twin Cities, MN

Find more info at:

http://smoke.sdsmt.edu/zoop

~~The "cool kids" will be leaving Minneapolis around 6 pm on Friday if anyone
would like to caravan out there! We'll be making a bonus stop Saturday
afternoon at Mt Rushmore... RAVE ON!!~~

Tanya :)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 14:16:42 1999
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> What a bunch of bullshit.  I mean, seriously.  Go the the Hyperreal web
> site.  What the fuck is right there on the main page?    Here.. I'll
> refresh your memory:  http://www.hyperreal.org/drugs/.  Gee, that's pretty
> bad, man.. I mean, just THINK about what the general public is going to

See, now that's screwy example.  90% of the drug talk on MW-Raves is
"Boyyeeee was I fucked up", "Boyeeee was he/she fucked up", "boyeeee does
anybody got crack that I can buy?", "So how many people do crack?"...

Maybe, and this is definitely a maybe, %10 is informative, useful, or
capable of presenting the same insight as .org/drugs/.  Talking about how
fucked up everyone gets does NOT present a good face on the scene,
promoters, or the kids that enjoy going to parties.  Providing a page that
is educational, doesn't necessarily present a good face, but it's
tolerable by 'outsiders', since it may help someone survive.

> So is oral sex in some states.  Do you think people are going to stop?

Nope peeps aren't going to stop, but if a governor started talking about
how he gets blown nightly, he would likely not be governor for long...
let's try to overlook our humjob president, not that he's gonna be around
for another term.

> "that's just tough shit"?  "I think we should respect the law..."??  What
> the fuck is that?  I thought that's the point of participating in
> elections.  If you don't like a particular law or represenative, you have
> the possibility of voting someone in who can change things.  I realize
> that's a bit simplistic, but jesus man.

I'm not even gonna get started on politics, law, voting, changing
legislation... That's a neverendig argument.

  I may agree with you in that
> posting to a public list material that might be considered incriminating
> isn't the smartest thing to do, but it -=IS=- a public list.  People can
> post what they want, offensive or not, as long as it have some sort of
> relevance to the rave scene. 

I agree with ya about having that right, for the most part.  But when/if
the postings are used as a source of investigation by a parent or
government, it's everyone that gets the shaft from these posts.

> Sorry about the rant.  It's Monday morning, I'm hung over, I'm at work, and
> I have strong feelings about this subject.   No hard feelings?

Heh heh, I did the hangover thing yesterday.... does THIS HELP
ACHCHHAGGGFHGHGHGHGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

hee

Have a great day at work/school/tanning-bed folks!  I"m off to school to
go fly a plane for a couple hours... ahh... life is so tough. 


Kale/DreamSequence


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 14:17:09 1999
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honey

sweetheart...listen up

if she's pullin stupid ass ignorant stunts like that, she has no business
doing drugs. it's time for her to go back to school and learn responsibility
and respect.  how you can defend her actions is beyond  my capabilities of
comprehension. wise up.

pixie



>       ohhhhhhh naw,,, Hold the fuck up on that one!!!
>      Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,but u
> really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an
callin
> em some kindergarden names for it aight....u know it's not like us party
kids
> gotta take drugs to have fun and get a good vibe,,,which is wut all sober
> party kids think,,,it's just the fact it makes a back rub about 1000 times
> more intence,,and helps me keep my energy up all night from dancin
hardcore
> as i do,which i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too.So
i
> juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to
> understand to good =)~.well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus
my
> beautiful St.Louis kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!
>                    love rachel aka rayray
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 14:26:14 1999
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i am always down for some flame wars =) hence this morning's post ... i
hope those of u in the middle of typing some bullshit to me will figure
out that i was kidding and stop...and if not - go ahead and send your
bs this way =)

Seriously though, the subject of drugs is a very very sensitive one.
The main issue here is what kind drug-related info should and shoulnd't
be posted in mw-raves. Well, in my eyes, since the drugs are indeed a
part of the scene (too big a part but oh well eh) drug-related
information should be available. BUT! And here's the big ass HUGE but.
Drug related information has some meaning behind it ONLY when it has
some educational purpose to it (i.e. scientific explanation of drug's
effects on human body, consequences of drug use, what to do when a
person OD's, etc. etc.) Some wet dream confession of a candy raver is
not anything educational in any way. If we as a group of concerned
individuals want to clean up this scene and make it appealing and
flourishing and so on, we need to, if not show to others how to have
fun at parties without chemicals, but at least educate people, give
them facts, encourage moderation, etc. What the hell is some 15 year
old candy raver going to think after reading that post - "RIGHT ON!
ROLLING IS BADASS YO", and things will continue being the way they are.

Fuck the law, really it's what we make of this "scene" we call ours.
Think of it this way, when you live somewhere for a long time, you try
to make your home as much to your liking as possible. Well the same
exact attitude should be toward the scene. We live in it, we have to
make something we really want out of it. 

Just use common sense is all.


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Where's the Part 2 that talks about the Puking?
And the part when you finally realize the feelings you get from it are fake 
and that the world's not a beautiful place and that not all people are good?
Maybe I should write it...
-Robert C

<<                 This Roll we Ride
 Once the drug enters your body, the anticipation of what is to come
 almost turns you on. Slowly you begin to feel your body transform into
 happiness. Dance! Dance! Dance! - is all I wanted to do. The entire
 experience was so heavenly, that each "person" I looked at had an
 angelic glow (or were those just the glow sticks?) Well, every
 wonderful emotion - all "rolled" into one. Bliss - is the word.
 Anything icy became your best friend. If only the entire world could
 roll. Everyone could be so happy and beautiful.
 Oh, but wait. There's a whole other part: SEX. You haven't ecperienced
 fabulous sex, until it is done rolling. There id something inside you
 telling you to make your lover happy: and that's just what you do. Your
 both feel that need, so you're working smoothly yet diligently to
 please one another. Your body becomes full with sexual feelings you
 never knew existed. There's no stopping you, you feel like it's your
 reason for living and could do it forever. The sex was like an
 improvised dance that we made up along the way and it feels so good.
 Why did it have to end? Well, it didn't.  Rolling, rolling, - I was
 still rolling. Dance alot more, check on my pals, then dance more and
 more. Eventually this euphoric ordeal will be on hold, and we'll fell
 like "ordanaries." But we know that it is in us forever now. There's no
 denying it - you can hold the magic in your hand all over again with a
 little pill we call X.
   Post Script - To my fellow ravers: spend all the time possible to
 obtain what you're searching for, then never let it go.
     I love You Guys!
           Tifany
 *Happy Raving* >>

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 15:23:17 1999
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>> >ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
>> >have to question...
>
>very nice.  you just proved my point.  fuckin assholes...

hey shiva, pull your head out of your fukn arse!  what dotcom was 
implying/saying is that Rap is a terrible dj.  if you think otherwise, feel 
free to debate that, and maybe drop a comment or two about her music and her 
mixing (or lack thereof), rather than bringing your constant feminist 
tirades upon us.  use some discretion, and please read things before blindly 
replying.

thanks.


////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus
-----------------------------------------------------------
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scene, i do my own thing.  my mind is the machine gun, my body is the 
bullets, and my audience is the target."  -GG Allin

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 15:26:58 1999
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Subject: [mw] tape review- brian e- disillusion.....
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ok..i'm a week late in getting this out, but here goes..

a little background first...brian e is one of the few psy/goa trance dj's in 
the midwest, and hails from the unlikely state of South Dakota.  As part of 
Zoop Productions, he's been throwing parties in that area for more than a 
year now..

so the tape..

first off (as usual)..artwork on the cover is very visually appealing..the 
nice fractal designs go with the music selection quite well..

sound quality is excellent..

So what is this tape? well..it's brian spinning psychedelic/goa trance.  His 
track selection is excellent, and well programmed.  He threw in a few 
personal favorites, as well as many tracks I have not heard (until this 
tape).  Yes, another tape that has a full tracklisting on the jcard..and I'm 
glad.

Very few psychedelic trance tapes come out of the midwest, and it's great to 
see another tape show up.  Hopefully, in the next year or so, this style 
will get more and more popular around here, to present an 
alternative/counterpoint to the progressive trance that is already quite 
popular.

so, in short- i recommend this tape highly, for anyone who wants to explore 
the deeper and darker side of trance.

how do you find this tape?
you can email brian e at psyche604@hotmail.com
or check his webpage at
http://members.xoom.com/djbriane/main.html

finally...thanks to brian for the tape!!

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Sex isn't any better with drugs... it's just "different." And it helps you 
get girls into bed sometimes when you tell them lines like "You haven't have 
sex until you had sex on ________" (fill in the blank)  It's just a scam 
mostly.

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Yeah, so what is it about sex and rock icons?

I don't mind joking around about DJ Rap because
she herself makes a big deal about looking attractive,
and recognizes that it's an asset to her career.  Rap/ 
Charissa was a stripper before she was a DJ.  Do I 
appreciate her music?  I have no idea what it sounds 
like.  I have one of her older 3X12"s w/ Voyager, but 
haven't heard any of the new stuff.  But she is hot.  
I've seen her image plastered across 12" covers and in 
magazines... She's conciously changed her image 
over the last few years, and it's working.

Probably my favorite pop star ever is Madonna.  And
it just happens that she's all about glam too... I think
she looked more attractive in the early 80s when she
was truly glam.  But I also love her music, and that
has nothing to do with her appearance.  Even though
everyone disses the "Ray of Light" album, I have to
say it's my favorite, minus the title track.

And Anna Vissi too, who is/was the #1 singer in 
Greece, and is basically the Greek answer to 
Madonna.  I got into that when I visited Greece.
And she's pure glam.  Somebody on this list was
telling me (sorry, who were you?) about how she
had to be hospitalized on multiple occasions 
because she was "ripped" at mass orgies...
(Whatever that means.  :/   )

And male pop stars make a market out of sexuality
as much as women.  (You think those hoardes of
teenage girls were screaming/passing out in front
of the Beatles because they were so enraptured by
the music?)  James Brown was all about his live
appearance, and his music certainly didn't suffer.

It's probably just that the American public wants to
see all of it's celebrities idealize the traditional/
standard opinion of what is attractive (and the 
traditional opinion is pretty naive: big tits = beauty
is hardly a realistic/informative prejudice).

And anyone who's glanced at more than a couple
of my posts over the last year knows I'm not all
about boobs when it comes to performers.  

The fact is I'm all about ass.


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ok..i would go to this party just for these 2 guys..

>>FreakBoy (Mineapolis, MN)+ Locals
>>Brian E

but this takes the cake!!!

>>Location: Buffalo Chip Campground. Sturgis, SD


how could you not go to a party at the "Buffalo Chip Campground" :)

Dj Storm
Hard Trance/ Psychedelic Trance
Psychedelic Trance Liberation Front  Agent# 604
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> "You haven't have sex until you had sex on ________" (fill in the blank)
It's just a scam

Hmmm, I dunno about that one... I've gotten quite a few girls into bed with
that line, doesn't seem like much of a scam to me.

Usual Senario:
Me: Hello Date

Date: Hello Brandon

Me: You haven't had sex until you had sex on "____" possible fills: a)
Extasy b) Asprin c) roofies d) crack e) Brandon f) PLUR g) Trick Daddy's new
hit single "Nigga Nann"

Date: take me now

Maybe it's just my dazzling personality and dashing good looks though...
Brandon










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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 16:00:41 1999
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Liquid Groove presents...

THE LIQUID GROOVE 5 YEAR ANNIVERSARY

Saturday October 30th 1999
Atlanta GA
Halloween Weekend
Studio Central


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~dj's~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Main room:

-S A S H A
 (northern exsposure, twilo, UK)
 playing a very special 4 hour extended set


-T H O M A S
 (wicked crew, san fran)
 This is thomas' 1st appearance in atlanta in probably 2 - 3 years.


-J I M M Y  V A N  M.
 (twilo, balance, NYC)


-K A Z E L L 
 (liquid groove, LA)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Room: 2~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


-J - M A J I K  & M C  M C
 (metalheadz, Infra Red Rec.s, UK)


-T I M E S T R E T C H 
 (advance recordings, boston)


-R O B B I E  B.
 (dubwarz, genetix, atlanta)


-H Y S T 
 (break_fast, Atlanta)


-J - M O O D A 
 (speaker junkies, atlanta)



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~INFO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Location:
Studio Central
(pleazures venue)

2 ROOMS OF MASSIVE TURBOSOUND

MAIN ROOM: 
-18 STACKS: 18 over 18 of Turbosound to blow the roof off this building.
-TRUE Full Color 3D lasers provided by PAWN lasers
-Full decor throughout
-Full array of intelligent lighting
-Plenty of free giveaways


ROOM 2:
-8 stacks OF 8 over 8 of Turbosound. More then enough for this room
-Full Decor throughout
-Full Array of intelligent lighting
-Plenty of free giveaways


This will be an 18 and over event. ID's will be strictly enforced

Flyers will be out by this friday and tickets will be on sale next week.

We will be having a cash prize contest for the best costume.

Stay tuned for more info later this week.

24 hour info: 404-257-2515
or e-mail liquidgroove@mindspring.com

Peaceout
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 16:20:44 1999
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Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com> said:

>Who the fuck cares about the freedom of speech? 
me me me me me,
>Freedom  of speech doesn't mean freedom to be dumb and post NRR  
drug-related e-
>mails to mw-raves mailing list.
oh really?  i have a feeling that because mw-raves is a PUBLIC FORUM and 
unfortunatly drugs are rave related (have been ever since i can remember) and 
yes not just drug horor stories, but also empirical drug experiences that 
were positive (yes i do believe it happens).  
>But seriously, I don't care about all this drug bullshit, but think
>about what kind of perception that kinda stuff creates in the eyes of
>an "outsider" so to speak, not necessarily some government
>organization.
any takers on this one?  personally i dont think anyone not involved with the 
scene is going to put up with 100 emails a day so they can "figure out the 
inner workings of the scene".  anyone with that much time on there hands....
>And on top of that, last time I checked, drugs were
>illegal.
does not mean you cant talk about them (see first amendment, constitution, 
united states)
 >I think we should respect the law or at least
>pretend that we do and deal with it. What we cannot do, however, is sit
>here and yell about the freedom of speech and how if we don't post some
>drug-related wet dream of some candy raver in mw-raves, we will lose
>all the freedom we have.
pretend that we respect the law?  then lets pretend that we respect the right 
of another even though it makes us feel sick when they talk about something 
like sex (ewww).   i appologise for defending the rights of some horny 
teenager on some insignificant e-mail forum,  but i kinda get upset when 
someone is trying to silence a member of a PUBLIC forum.  

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 16:28:36 1999
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you all fight too much!!!!!!  especially for ravers!!!  if somebody wants to 
say something dumb... just let them.. their opinion most likely wont change 
if you bitch at them.  all your doing is fillin up my mailbox with something 
other than my own opinions and morals... their yours!!! please don't preach 
to those who have different ones than you!!  NO MORE FIGHTING!! >:o(

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ok, so i was going to stay out of this sticky situation of sorts.  but
for some reason i feel like i should say something......so here goes

Kevin M. Ryan wrote:

> Yeah, so what is it about sex and rock icons?

sex, looks, and all that shit is what really sells albums.  i am sorry
but people like Madonna, Backstreet Boys, New Kids on the Block and the
whole lot don't have talent.  their only talent was in looking good and
being able to dance.  they have the looks, and their careers depended on
them.  they don't actually write any of the music, they have producers
to do that, so it's not like they actually have to fucking work or
anything.  It kind of reminds me of milli vanilli..... they got those
two guys cuz of their looks, cuz the guys who wrote and sang the
material were fat and ugly.  fat and ugly doesn't sell records.  it's a
simple fact whether you are a male or female artist. now mind you i am
taking about mainstream type music here.now, unfortunately, it seems
that the techno/jungle/whatever fucking genre it is, is falling into the
same trap.  this is especially true of the Dj? Rap situation.  i really
don't like the fact that now magazines or whatever are trying to put
faces to what (in my opinion) was a faceless music genre.  i loved the
fact that you didn't know who or what Daft Punk looked like, that was
probably the most beautiful statement that any artist in this scene has
done.

> I don't mind joking around about DJ Rap because
> she herself makes a big deal about looking attractive,
> and recognizes that it's an asset to her career.

it's the only thing she's got going.  her music fucking sucks.

> Rap/
> Charissa was a stripper before she was a DJ.

and what do strippers rely on most?  definitely not talent.

>  Do I
> appreciate her music?  I have no idea what it sounds
> like.  I have one of her older 3X12"s w/ Voyager, but
> haven't heard any of the new stuff.  But she is hot.
> I've seen her image plastered across 12" covers and in
> magazines... She's conciously changed her image
> over the last few years, and it's working.

that right there is exactly why she is selling records.  do you think
she would if she didn't have her image plastered everywhere?  i haven't
seen a shot of her without some sort of cleavage.she does nothing for
the women who are trying to work hard and actually do have talent in
this scene.  she turns it into a fantasy world, and also makes it so
that men in the scene start basing whether or not a female dj has talent
on her looks.

> Probably my favorite pop star ever is Madonna.  And
> it just happens that she's all about glam too... I think
> she looked more attractive in the early 80s when she
> was truly glam.  But I also love her music, and that
> has nothing to do with her appearance.  Even though
> everyone disses the "Ray of Light" album, I have to
> say it's my favorite, minus the title track.

i wouldn't necessarily say that you love her music.  you should say that
you love the music that is written for her by other people.  she is just
the center piece of the table so to speak....kind of fits the attitude
and the images surrounding her music.  she is the face that sells the
records.if she was fat and ugly, do you think she would have lasted as
long as she has?
i don't think so.

> And Anna Vissi too, who is/was the #1 singer in
> Greece, and is basically the Greek answer to
> Madonna.  I got into that when I visited Greece.
> And she's pure glam.  Somebody on this list was
> telling me (sorry, who were you?) about how she
> had to be hospitalized on multiple occasions
> because she was "ripped" at mass orgies...
> (Whatever that means.  :/   )

not sure of who this is.

> And male pop stars make a market out of sexuality
> as much as women.  (You think those hoardes of
> teenage girls were screaming/passing out in front
> of the Beatles because they were so enraptured by
> the music?)  James Brown was all about his live
> appearance, and his music certainly didn't suffer.

true.  i also site Rolling Stones, and all the little teeny bopper acts
of the past 15 years.  tho james brown i really don't think used his
sexual image to sell records.  james brown is the only male artist out
out of this lot that i think actually had talent.

> It's probably just that the American public wants to
> see all of it's celebrities idealize the traditional/
> standard opinion of what is attractive (and the
> traditional opinion is pretty naive: big tits = beauty
> is hardly a realistic/informative prejudice).

they want to see it cuz that is how it is presented to them.  there
really is no alternatives because we are force fed on a daily basis
through the media that looks means everything, and if you don't look
like these pop icons then you won't succeed.  it sucks, it's bullshit,
and i don't buy it for one second.  i am going to do everything i can to
teach my daughter that looks aren't everything, not to rely on them to
get her through life.  cuz once she does, and once she looses those
looks, everything around her will fall.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 16:31:28 1999
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Well peeps, i'm sorry all of you didn't like the story, but don't bitch
at me bout the content, I DIDN'T WRITE IT! I picked it up at
Infiltration and and thought it was nifty, ok? Some of you need to
chill out and remember PLUR before you go throwin flames over a story.
Later peeps.
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another no talent act that was trying to rely on her looks rather than her "talent" was traci lords who tried to break into techno a little while ago.
funny thing is, when i saw her (don't ask) she didn't even know how to turn on the tables and mixer!  hahahahah.  then she couldn't mix, so keoki had to come out and help, but somehow, the mixing didn't get any better!  ahahahahhahhahhaa.
they just acted like they were rocking the crowd while drinkin and almost fell over the tables.  thank god they cut the act short! ahahhahahha.

Psyko Slinky bong wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:53:23 -0500 "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com> wrote:
> >ummm... ANYONE whou would go see DJ Rap because of "talent" i SERIOUSLY
> >have to question...
>
> ummm...yeah....saw her here in denver last night....and uhhh...yeah she cheesed out on a bunch of her mixes....couple that with her whole attitude of letting  beauty work for her  (admitted by her in the article...not to mention the fact that she gratuitously told the reporter that she was taking a bath when he called to do the interview...)....i dunno...the picture don't look so good for her "talent"....the thing that sucks for everyone (male and female alike) is when people play off their looks like this instead of cultivating talent....brings everyone down imho...
>
> fuel for the fire...(and bring on the chicks that rock the house regardless of looks)
>
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RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> Sex isn't any better with drugs... it's just "different." And it helps you
> get girls into bed sometimes when you tell them lines like "You haven't have
> sex until you had sex on ________" (fill in the blank)  It's just a scam
> mostly.

just like the whole "blue balls" thing that guys say....fuck that, my nuts have
never hurt from blue balls, it's all a sham girls!  ehehhehe.
if blue balls really did exist why not just go home and choke the chicken?  i
mean what the fuck, can't guys just respect a woman's decision to not have sex
without trying to make up some excuse to get laid?

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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Corey Burton wrote:

>  P.S. I'm not some 15 year old thats just there for the drugs, i'm 18
> and i've gone quite a few times sober and had a blast.

*shaking my head*

looks like we've got quite the authority on our hands now, doesn't it?

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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, DJ Storm . wrote:

> ok..i'm a week late in getting this out, but here goes..
> 
> a little background first...brian e is one of the few psy/goa trance dj's in 
> the midwest, and hails from the unlikely state of South Dakota.  As part of 
> Zoop Productions, he's been throwing parties in that area for more than a 
> year now..
> 
> so the tape..
> 

You do know that you are using another very well known DJ
s name right? DJ Storm, a very well known Drum&Bass DJ from the UK who
along with Kemistry (R.I.P) basically started Metalheadz.

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> You do know that you are using another very well known DJ
> s name right? DJ Storm, a very well known Drum&Bass DJ from the UK who
> along with Kemistry (R.I.P) basically started Metalheadz.
>
> you might want to change your name

BwaAHhAhHAhAhHAhAHHAhAhHA

<remembering that so she can tell all the little candyravers running around
with the nickname pixie to change their names>

Storm is not known as DJ Storm, she is known as Storm

Storm
DJ Storm
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you obviously haven't heard dj storm then... i actually was surprised to see 
the name pop up on the list here (mw)  but i have had his tape for a 
while... and it is serisously some of the most beautiful music.  his 
psychedelic trance is AMAZING.  besides... imagine how many dj's there are 
out there... everybody's gotta come up with somethin!!!  so check storm out!

-phatty matty from cincinnati



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>On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, DJ Storm . wrote:
>
> > ok..i'm a week late in getting this out, but here goes..
> >
> > a little background first...brian e is one of the few psy/goa trance 
>dj's in
> > the midwest, and hails from the unlikely state of South Dakota.  As part 
>of
> > Zoop Productions, he's been throwing parties in that area for more than 
>a
> > year now..
> >
> > so the tape..
> >
>
>You do know that you are using another very well known DJ
>s name right? DJ Storm, a very well known Drum&Bass DJ from the UK who
>along with Kemistry (R.I.P) basically started Metalheadz.
>
>you might want to change your name
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have you haven't had sex until you've had sex on mE.
passion, yeah, bla bla.   dance, motion, bla bla.
wiggle, spit, slurp....bouncey bouncey.

that goes there, this goes here.  
rub rub *slap*
WOOHOOO!

watch out for the whirlwind!

I think some people are confused about rights.
If you think about it, do you really want me telling you what yours are?

oof! now i tripped down the steps and into a room where
i can hold my foot and count to three.  oh! now i see you there.

there are some who won't do it responsibly, and if you don't like it, you
have the power to change it.

with that in mind...

techniques in a nutshell. how the heck did these techniques get in this
huge nutshell?  no doubt they were put there by beethoven, the queen,
wayne, garth, and vego the carpathian...with a little help from their
friends, of course.

this room all of a sudden has so many doors.  looking around, it's fairly
hard to decide which one.   i'm fairly confused.  i fairly like the word
fairly.

and out i slip, quietly, to a place you can slightly imagine if you fairly
try.

chad

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God damn then am i supposed to change my dj name cuz there were actual
Tsar's in Russia?


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Be quiet..
   We dont like your opinions on anything.. And who the hell are you to say 
that we fight too much??

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merely pointin it out... fight on

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a list of the have been electronic rock star dj poster boys(girls) who had no 
talent:
keoki
dj funk
crystal method
fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)

anyone else have any contributions?

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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:
> just like the whole "blue balls" thing that guys say....fuck that, my nuts have
> never hurt from blue balls, it's all a sham girls!  ehehhehe.
> if blue balls really did exist why not just go home and choke the chicken?  i
> mean what the fuck, can't guys just respect a woman's decision to not have sex
> without trying to make up some excuse to get laid?

While I agree with you that men have to respect a woman's decision
regardless, blue balls really do happen regardless of whether it's ever
happened to you.  But, like you said, spankin it isn't that bad... :)

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At 02:19 PM 9/12/99 EDT, RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>      ohhhhhhh naw,,, Hold the fuck up on that one!!!
>     Okay ,,,thats really great that ur a straightedge and drugfree,,but u 
>really have no right at all to be tellin peoples to stop doin drugs an
callin 
>em some kindergarden names for it aight....u know it's not like us party
kids 
>gotta take drugs to have fun and get a good vibe,,,which is wut all sober 
>party kids think,,,it's just the fact it makes a back rub about 1000 times 
>more intence,,and helps me keep my energy up all night from dancin hardcore 
>as i do,which i'm sure thats one of the amin reasons for other kids too.So i 
>juss thought i'de  make that clear to u,,cuz uh well..u didnt seem to 
>understand to good =)~.well imma be up offa here.......laters to all plus my 
>beautiful St.Louis kiddies up in this bitch........reprefuckinsent..!!!!
>                   love rachel aka rayray
>             

But the girl was a fucking moron.....I think that may be what he was trying
to get at.  Oh and you know what??  I took grammar in grade school...it did
wonders.

steen

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On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, jon dica! wrote:
> 
> 666.
> 
> 
You're ravin now!

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> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)

or come up with a comprehensible MTV Music Video Awards performance...

can someone enlighten me on the rumour floating around that ESP Woody
McBride has taken to spinning club-type music?





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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 17:18:34 1999
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Sat, Sept. 18th, 1999
Kindred Groove asks:

got vibe?

Our goal to revitalize the St. Louis scene has been more than met: the scene 
is flourishing
and great things are happening everywhere. Take a look around; there are so 
many beautiful brothers and sisters in our family. None of us could ever 
possibly meet them all -but isn't it fun trying? We're working to rebuild our 
reputation as "the city of love", but it's not possible without you. As we 
approach our 6th party, we ask you: got vibe? Do you smile at people you 
don't know? got vibe? Do you give without being asked? got vibe?
Do you really know what PLUR is all about? got vibe? Share the music. Feel 
the love. Do
you have it in you? 

Line up:

Traxx, Chicago, Soul Foundation/Tresor, House

A house master since even before the days of rave, Traxx has become a world 
renowned
DJ and producer. He's moved thousands during performances at the legendary 
Love
Parade in Berlin and Ministry of Sound in the UK - get ready to jack your 
body! 


DJ Champ, San Francisco, WCG Productions, House

As an awesome addition to the SF Rave Scene, DJ CHAMP has rocked parties
throughout California and Seattle with his high energy performances and style 
of music.
His stop in St. Louis during his KNOCKOUT TOUR '99 promises to be a show that 
is
not worth missing!

Devastating Dennis, Chicago, House

Miss Hollie, Madison, FLY entertainment/Eucalyptus, Breaks

Mary Jane, Memphis, ESP/Global Energy Musik, Trance

Tag Team:
Stan Doublin, St. Louis, Kindred Groove/FUNK enterprises, House
+
Bodaleg, St. Louis, Boogie Knights, House

DJ Tsar, Evansville, Level 9.0/K-Krew, Trance

Matt Bandy, Lexington, SUBterror/Aliensquad, House

DJ True, Kansas City, The House Coalition, House

Jon Gotti, St. Louis, Jungle Mafia, Jungle

Hypo, St. Louis, Kindred Groove, Techno

DoubleX, St. Louis, Techno

Matthew Ryan, St. Louis, Surveillance Records, Techno

Admission: $15
Doors open 11pm.
2 rooms of pounding sound + awesome lights & laser 
Free toys and surprises throughout the evening!

Must be 17 to enter, bring ID.
As always: no drugs, no alcohol, no bad vibe.
Expect to be searched upon entry. 
Sorry, no ins and outs.

Kindred Groove: 314.995.9215  http://kindredgroove.com


Support Lines:
St. Louis - Boogie Knights - 314/567-2041
Kansas City - Flip/Ultra Omega - 816/545-4402
Chicago - Mushgroove - 773/509-6869
Memphis - Esp - 901/226-9024
Louisville - StrangeLoop - 502/569-1757
Iowa - Subconscious Collective - 515/239-4685

Coming in November, More Good Stuff...

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> >can someone enlighten me on the rumour floating around that ESP Woody
> >McBride has taken to spinning club-type music?
>
>
>     rumor? he always has, been a club DJ in Mpls for a long time...

hrmm, color me stupid...the last couple of times i heard him spin i could
have sworn he played acidy-techno-type music, not clubby-pop-electronica,
which is what i was told he was heard spinning this weekend...i was not,
however, refering to *spinning* in clubs, but spinning clubby type
music...in my world two very different things

apparently i'm living in an unparallel universe...sorry.




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Woody spun Madonna's "Ray Of Light" at one of his Mpls parties "Stoopid
Fresh". It was a bit disturbing, I have to admit...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 17:29:47 1999
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PLEASE tell me that someone wasn't passing that out to random people at
a party. That is bad for the scene on so many different levels. I'm all
for freedom of speech but whatever happened to keeping things on the
downlow and not advertising to the world that there are massive amounts
of drugs at parties. I promise you that a cop read that flier, or
whatever you want to call it, and he may has simply dismissed it as
bullshit, or he may go back to all his other cop buddies and sugest
that they start cracking down on these "rave parties".
Do your drugs if you want, but for the love of god do them in
moderation, don't advertise that you are doing them and PLEASE do not
pass out fliers about them unless it is educational.
Laine
P.S. Corey, i know you didn't write it, i'm not bitching at you, just
bitching in general

--- Corey Burton <allanon13@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well peeps, i'm sorry all of you didn't like the
> story, but don't bitch
> at me bout the content, I DIDN'T WRITE IT! I picked
> it up at
> Infiltration and and thought it was nifty, ok? Some
> of you need to
> chill out and remember PLUR before you go throwin
> flames over a story.
> Later peeps.
> Corey
>  P.S. I'm not some 15 year old thats just there for
> the drugs, i'm 18
> and i've gone quite a few times sober and had a
> blast.
> 
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I would like to contradict this false and unworthy statement about DJ
Funk. I have seen him on 4 occassions, all purely by accident and against
my will. The first two times, admittedly he sucked. However, the 3rd time
I saw him, he spun many flavors of house, and even a little hard techno,
and he was moderately tight. And the last time I saw him, at Forever
After, he spun all booty and HE FUCKING WORKED IT. Admittedly, his music
is a little simplistic, but don't slam his mixing.

Matt

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 Speakerphreak@aol.com wrote:

> a list of the have been electronic rock star dj poster boys(girls) who had no 
> talent:
> keoki
> dj funk
> crystal method
> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
> 
> anyone else have any contributions?
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speaking of stupid thigs seen recently on fliers or otherwise, how does
everyone like the latest flyer by UE (undaground elements out of chicago?)
entitled "Genuine Raver" with a note at the top that says "contains 150
tablets of E"

i don't think i need to elaborate on my feelings about this...anyone else?




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I'm gone for like two days and come back to like 400 messages in my box. I
realize that the St.Louis raves list went down, and therefore we've got an
influx of a buncha new people, but what the heck??? Did anyone read the
FAQ that is sent as everyone is subscribed? I don't know what's going to
happen with the bandwith of this list, but we've had problems with it in
the past, and I'm sure that this much posting isn't going to help issues
much...

I guess my biggest question is, is St.Louis raves going back up, or is
this a permanent thing? Because with this much mail, I might have to go to
digest form, because unfortunately, real life allows me not to be able to
sit in front of the computer all day and check my email...

Let's just say guys, watch what you post, and if it is something that has
been and can be taken private, please keep it there...

-Becky =)

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> implying/saying is that Rap is a terrible dj.  if you think otherwise, feel 
> free to debate that, and maybe drop a comment or two about her music and her 
> mixing (or lack thereof), rather than bringing your constant feminist 

Personally I like DJ Rap's jungle mixing.  She's not the best I've ever
heard, but she is so far from the worst, it's not even funny.  I like
several of the jungle tracks that were produced with her name (debate
whether she wrote 'em or not some other time).

The fact that she's bootiful doesn't make too much of a diff to me.
There's lawts of beautiful gurls who can't spin, and I wouldn't see them.
Regardless of how  peeps want to bag on her for not being the best DJ in
the world, you simply can't make it as a DJ in the scene by pure looks...
at least not IMHO.
Well, ok, I might be able to. Cuz damn!
 hee!

Kale/DreamSequence

p.s. And just to settle some confusion in this frigging list, I'm a
guy damnit!  When you are born in Hawaii, it's a state law you have to
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>
>speaking of stupid thigs seen recently on fliers or otherwise, how does
>everyone like the latest flyer by UE (undaground elements out of chicago?)
>entitled "Genuine Raver" with a note at the top that says "contains 150
>tablets of E"
>
>i don't think i need to elaborate on my feelings about this...anyone else?
>
  IM KINDA PISSED MYSELF, I ATE THE ENTIRE FLYER AND I DIDNT EVEN SEE ANY 
TRACERS OR ANYTHING.. WHAT A FUCKIN RIP-OFF

         COULD IT BE, THAT I AM NOT GENUINE?? I AM A POSER??

  OR MAYBE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ME:

  DAN SHARP/GENUINE RAVER: CONTAINS 150 TABLETS OF E???
   I KNOW I HAVE MORE THAN THAT IN HERE...

             ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS PLEASE HELP..
    I THINK IM IN A K HOLE.. (0_O)

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> I would like to contradict this false and unworthy statement about DJ
> Funk. 
I'm sorry Matt, I'm simply gonna have to deny you that option.  DJ Funk
sucked every time I've seen him mix.  I've heard him 4 or 5 times, and was
shocked at how bad I thought he was.  I really like the tracks he
produces, but live?  Damn it sucks goat cheese.

Kale/DreamSEquence



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premixed records?
ass n titties

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>
>> I would like to contradict this false and unworthy statement about DJ
>> Funk. 
>I'm sorry Matt, I'm simply gonna have to deny you that option.  DJ Funk
>sucked every time I've seen him mix.  I've heard him 4 or 5 times, and was
>shocked at how bad I thought he was.  I really like the tracks he
>produces, but live?  Damn it sucks goat cheese.
>
>Kale/DreamSEquence
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Brandon Ivers wrote:

> Woody spun Madonna's "Ray Of Light" at one of his Mpls parties "Stoopid
> Fresh". It was a bit disturbing, I have to admit...
> 
> Brandon
> 
(putting fireproof suit on)

I like that song. William Orbit did the production so who cares if it is a
Madonna song? Ditto the Britney Spears thing the other night. If an
underground producer is hired for a pop thing and it is still a good tune
does it matter?

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> mw-raves mailing list. Last time I checked those e-mails were posted on
> mw-candyraver-geeks (Doris is the admin on that one:).
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> If an underground producer is hired for a pop thing and it is still a good
tune
> does it matter?

no it doesn't really matter, but like I said, it's a bit disturbing. Woody
pretty much built the scene up around this area, and when you listen to some
of his old drop bass tracks, it's hard to imagine the same person would spin
a song like "Ray Of Light".  It's more disturbing because it shows how this
music is aging, and the people associated with it are aging as well...

As for the Britany Spears thing, I was more surprised than anything else.
Just as surprised as when I started to notice 170+ bpm breakbeats in the
background of Revlon commericials as well... its a natural reflex I guess =]

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if people have personal opinions about something, is anyone's opinion ever
going to be "right?"


hrmm...a point that seems to be continually missed. In my personal opinion,
good remixer does not a hit tune make (as a rule, that is). But I'm sure the
top 40 people disagree.

another example: I like Jordana and her music. I am not fond, however, of
the Britany Spears Remix. Does this mean I automatically think Jordana
sucks? or that her remixing capabilities suck? Absolutely not, but some
people here seem to think so. All it means is that I don't like the song
"Baby One More Time" no matter which way you slice it, and no, I wouldn't
like it as a jungle track. This also doesn't mean I think Britany shouldn't
use techno styles in her music. In my opinion, as long as she isn't raping
the style for it's marketability, she can make gabber tracks for all I care.
If I like them, I'll listen to them. If not, I'll say I think they suck, and
people will go "but so and so major gabber producer remixed it, does that
mean you think they suck? or that the music isn't underground anymore? blah
blah blah? blah blah blah?!!"

quit thinking in absolutes.
pixie




> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Brandon Ivers wrote:
>
> > Woody spun Madonna's "Ray Of Light" at one of his Mpls parties "Stoopid
> > Fresh". It was a bit disturbing, I have to admit...
> >
> > Brandon
> >
> (putting fireproof suit on)
>
> I like that song. William Orbit did the production so who cares if it is a
> Madonna song? Ditto the Britney Spears thing the other night. If an
> underground producer is hired for a pop thing and it is still a good tune
> does it matter?
>
> (watching as some of the boys here get out their flamethrowers)
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I thought that was one of the funniest fliers I've seen in a long time.
Funny stupid, not funny ha-ha.

Matt

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> speaking of stupid thigs seen recently on fliers or otherwise, how does
> everyone like the latest flyer by UE (undaground elements out of chicago?)
> entitled "Genuine Raver" with a note at the top that says "contains 150
> tablets of E"
> 
> i don't think i need to elaborate on my feelings about this...anyone else?
> 
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ummm
chemical brothers
prodigy
traci lords
dj rap
jason blakemore (tired ass la dj)
joey beltram (tired of hearing the same set)

Speakerphreak@aol.com wrote:

> a list of the have been electronic rock star dj poster boys(girls) who had no
> talent:
> keoki
> dj funk
> crystal method
> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
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>heard, but she is so far from the worst, it's not even funny.  I like
>several of the jungle tracks that were produced with her name (debate
>whether she wrote 'em or not some other time).

Pete Parsons used to be her engineer.  meaning, that she came in, gave him 
an idea of what she wanted the track to sound like, and he made it.  so 
"her" music really isn't hers.  she has a different engineer now, i think.  
and now, her tracks REALLY suck, imho.  "bad girl"?  you got THAT right!


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> prodigy

OK this thread is getting really stupid now. To say that Prodigy has no
talent is ridiculous. They may have been media darlings for a bit, but it
was with good reason. Just because they got popular does not mean they have
no talent. I don't think I'd even be interested in Electronic music if it
wasn't for the album "The Prodigy Experience"! Charly and Wind It Up still
give me goosebumps even after hearing them each 100's of times...

As for the others... would it be safe to say that they "suck" simply because
they've managed to transcend underground dance music? They obviously have
some shread of talent, or they wouldn't be where they are today.

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alright, i think i need to clarify a bit.
prodigy's new music fucking sucks.
i don't know what i would be doing now if it weren't for the experience album
either.
it's still a good album.  my problem is with the newer releases. shit, gilted
generation was their last decent album. it seems that they are going with a more
chemical brothers formula so that they can make commercially viable tracks.
that is my opinion, and i know some people out there are going to disagree with
it.  but the new prodigy just doesn't tickle my eardrum as much as their older
stuff.  and i could say the same thing about the chemical brothers, i do as a
matter of fact, and yes even fat boy slim has released some decent tracks.  but
i don't like them now, not cuz they are "mainstream", but because i just don't
like the feeling i get when i hear their tracks.
if i weren't going to like someone cuz they were mainstream then i wouldn't like
The Orb or Orbital.  some may argue that they aren't mainstream, but i would
disagree.  i know people who have never been to a party or even know shit about
this scene that know about those two bands and have seen them at regular concert
venues.  also both bands have had their songs in major motion pictures and or
commercials.  that is pretty mainstream in my opinion.


Brandon Ivers wrote:

> > prodigy
>
> OK this thread is getting really stupid now. To say that Prodigy has no
> talent is ridiculous. They may have been media darlings for a bit, but it
> was with good reason. Just because they got popular does not mean they have
> no talent. I don't think I'd even be interested in Electronic music if it
> wasn't for the album "The Prodigy Experience"! Charly and Wind It Up still
> give me goosebumps even after hearing them each 100's of times...
>
> As for the others... would it be safe to say that they "suck" simply because
> they've managed to transcend underground dance music? They obviously have
> some shread of talent, or they wouldn't be where they are today.
>
> Brandon
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:
> chemical brothers
> prodigy

OK, I completely agree with you on the rest of them, but I have to say
that Prodigy and Chemical Brothers both definitely had their day.  Sure,
having said that, they both had their day before they became popular, but
you can't tell me that their older stuff wasn't quite good when it came
out.  Hell, I still like some of those songs a lot (i.e. "Poison").

Just because they suck now and rely completely on image instead of music
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Hehe, i was pure/straight @ both Interstellar
(the second night)& Deja Vu, but I still like 
to check on how high the prices are nowadaze...
Woo, inflation!

--- jared griffith <djnickel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> PlasTicPorTal wrote:
> 
> > Just outa curiosity,
> > I wonder how many people on this list are straight
> edge and how many people
> > use illegal drugs.  This will be my little survey.
>  Everybody can rank
> > themselves on a scale from 1-10
> > "1" being completely straight edge
> > and "10" being a total crackhead....
> 
> i would have to rate myself a 5.  i do most of my
> shit at home cuz it's more
> fun and i don't havet to drive anywhere! 
> occasionally i do shit at parties,
> depends on my gut feeling about the party.i mainly
> go to hear good (hopefully)
> music and dance.
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-->Live web cast from this event!!!!!!!
-->
-->DJ RAP

of course, you won't be able to check her out over real audio... :(

one love,
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DJ Nickel wrote:
>and what do strippers rely on most?  definitely not talent.

Hi all, I'm Diz from Columbus.  I'm new to the list and I just wanted to 
send a PLURRY shout out to all of you!

Nickel - I think you're a prejudiced ASSH*LE.  I'm a "stripper" and what you 
say is total BS.  We are dancers, and guess what! Dancing takes talent, 
which I have in total abundance.

Sorry to have to come all out with a rant like that.  But I'm sick of taking 
attitude about what I do.  Did I meantion I'm on the dean's list at my 
college? Oh...but I guess "strippers" don't rely on talent.

What a great way to give my intro...oh well... ;-D

Peace,
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Whoa FLAME ON


Adam Sjogren
a.k.a. FreakBoy
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>DJ Nickel wrote:
>>and what do strippers rely on most?  definitely not talent.
>
>Hi all, I'm Diz from Columbus.  I'm new to the list and I just wanted to
>send a PLURRY shout out to all of you!
>
>Nickel - I think you're a prejudiced ASSH*LE.  I'm a "stripper" and what 
>you
>say is total BS.  We are dancers, and guess what! Dancing takes talent,
>which I have in total abundance.
>
>Sorry to have to come all out with a rant like that.  But I'm sick of 
>taking
>attitude about what I do.  Did I meantion I'm on the dean's list at my
>college? Oh...but I guess "strippers" don't rely on talent.
>
>What a great way to give my intro...oh well... ;-D
>
>Peace,
>~ Diz ~
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHAT: OUR HOUSE (18+)
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 15 (8pm-1am)
WHERE: Ground Zero (15 NE 4th St, Mpls)
COST: $3 for 18+; Free for 21+
DJs: 
Alayah
Jevne
Beef

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHAT: ELECTRIC LIGHTS
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 15 (11pm-3am)
WHERE: Central City Theater (343 E Lake St Mpls - 4th & Lake)
COST: $5
DJs: 
DJ Linc
Kamushi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHAT: PLANET FUNK (AA)
WHEN: Wednesday, Sept 15
WHERE: The New Union (3141 Central Ave NE, Mpls)
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DJ Joel Soul - Jazzy Funk House

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Slow Derek
Centrific
+ Other(s) TBA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHAT: BEATOPIA (21+)
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WHERE: First Ave VIP Room
COST: FREE before 11 with Beatopia flyer, $3 before 11pm, $5 11-12am, 12-3am
$6 
INFO: 612.332.1775
DJs vary weekly:
Dean Vaccaro
Alexander East
PD Spinlove
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Alan Freed
E-tones
Drone
C-Bee
Bionic
Jezus Juice
Ravin' Rob
Spiral

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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612.289.6312
612.871.4444
ADD'L INFO: Free BBQ & cold drinks while supplies last
Free tapes & CDs
Open Mic from 5-7pm
DJs:
DJ Musa Salaam
DJ Ben Ganja
DJ Psychomatic
DJ Lazy T
Lady P - MC
Fame - MC
Kanser Troop
Kokigami
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Pee Pee Dread - Ragga Jungle Lyricist

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WHAT: MENTAL
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WHERE: Roy Wilkins River Center X-hall (St Paul)
COST: $25 Sept 10-17; $30 day of show
INFO: 651.649.4700
612.996.9298
773.509.2938
DJs:
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Adam Beyer
Andy C
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Miss Honey Dijon
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Woody McBride
Merlin
Lil Ronnie
Ken Earley
Nic D
Beef
DJ Balance
MC Brace
DJ Mountain
Mental Floss
DJ Mike G
Fiat Lux
Digital Perceptions Crew
Karma Crew
Kani 

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Have fun and be safe!

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All strippers on the list must immediately report to DJ Tsar for
further instructions.


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> OK this thread is getting really stupid now. To say that Prodigy has no
> talent is ridiculous. 

I agree, well kinda.  _The_ Prodigy kicked ass, and they can float all
that old music till the end of time and I won't bust on them for it.
However, all the newer stuff that they've been putting out under Prodigy
is just noisy and pretty lame.
For me, it's the same thing with Chemical Brothers.  I still like their
old shit, but all their newer (last couple years) is loud and lame.
Keoki, who has the mixing skill of a drunk water buffalo, has produced
tracks that I like(d) very much, but it's just so hard to take him
seriously when he sucks so bad these days.

> As for the others... would it be safe to say that they "suck" simply because
> they've managed to transcend underground dance music? 

Nope, but it would be safe to say they suck if you think they suck.  =)


Zooooooooooom to the moooooon!

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>You do know that you are using another very well known DJ
>s name right? DJ Storm, a very well known Drum&Bass DJ from the UK who
>along with Kemistry (R.I.P) basically started Metalheadz.
>
>you might want to change your name
>
Wow you might be the most perceptive person I've ever met

Damn Storm I bet you didn't know that

You must be new to the list huh Sarah


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> of course, you won't be able to check her out over real audio... :(
> 
Damn!  If the Late show can have 'crash cams', why can't we get dildo cams
for RA!!!!  

sigh.

> 
> p.s. I like tits

What a coincidence!  me too!
Mmmmmm...... purrrrrdrddddrdrdrrrrr...

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bahahaha...

what do they get?


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>I'm a "stripper" and what you 
>say is total BS.  We are dancers, and guess what! Dancing takes 
talent, 
which I have in total abundance.

Whoa!! you know what....I'm a dancer too!! I dance ta parties 
(sometimes) but I don't take my clothes off and solicit myself on a 
fucking auction block to the highest bidder. hence the term 
"STRIPPER"!!! Now as far as talent goes....yeah I guess it does take 
talent to con money out of men/women whom come there to spend money and 
end up spending more than they thought they would've. Talent as a con 
artist? Yes. Talent as a dancer? No. Dancing is a form of self 
expression and something talent has nothing to do with. You say it 
takes talent to be a STRIPPER? I say it takes nice tits and a tight 
ass!!

>Did I meantion I'm on the dean's list at my 
>college? Oh...but I guess "strippers" don't rely on talent.

hrmmmm....well since this is your intro, I i guess you wouldn't have 
mentioned that you were on the dean's list. Hrmmmm.....I wonder what 
list that might be. Makes you think.
And what the fuck does stripping and talent have to do with school (or 
fucking) anyway?

This is a good one....I'm sure there are going to be alot more than 
just me replying to this one. 

Bring on another 400 messages tonight!!

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Discord 23 wrote:

> DJ Nickel wrote:
> >and what do strippers rely on most?  definitely not talent.
>
>
> Nickel - I think you're a prejudiced ASSH*LE.  I'm a "stripper" and what you
> say is total BS.  We are dancers, and guess what! Dancing takes talent,
> which I have in total abundance.

some have talent and make it dancing.  i differentiate between "strippers" and
"dancers".my girlfriend/mother of my child is a "dancer".  Dita is a "dancer".
the old school striptease ladies, they are "dancers".  flappers were "dancers".
"dancers" convey sensuality without trying to pretend like the pole is a dick.
"dancers" are elegant.
"strippers" are girls who think they can dance, have no elegance, have no
sensuality, and act like they are acting out a porno scene.  the porno scene
thing is very far from atractive.  i don't like seeing girls act the way they do
in porn, much less on stage when they don't even have a partner.
by the way, you jumped to a conclusion here and assumed that i was insulting
you.  if you consider yourself a "stripper" then yes i did.  if you consider
yourself a "dancer", then i didn't.
and in either case, "dancers" and "strippers" rely on the stupidity of some men
to make money.

> Sorry to have to come all out with a rant like that.  But I'm sick of taking
> attitude about what I do.  Did I meantion I'm on the dean's list at my
> college? Oh...but I guess "strippers" don't rely on talent.

talent does not equal intelligence.  you might want to hit some one up for some
clarification before you make assumptions.  thanks.

> What a great way to give my intro...oh well... ;-D

hello!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 19:52:19 1999
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> expression and something talent has nothing to do with. You say it 
> takes talent to be a STRIPPER? I say it takes nice tits and a tight 
> ass!!
> 

Oh I disagree completely.  I mean, have you seen the whole ping pong ball
shooting thing?  Now THAT is a talent!  Though I don't see it having
anything to do with dancing.

Wooo haaaa!  Ok my last email for a while,  I think I've added my $425 for
the day... well, maybe not.  We'll see.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 19:53:19 1999
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actually all it takes is a willingness to take your clothes off and peddle
your naked body for money, and a shitload of no self-respect. attractiveness
is not a factor. ability and willingness to pretend to be a sexual fantasy
for dirty old men and college boys is.

coming from an ex-stripper...so don't even try to play that crap with me. i
finally decided pretending to like those creeps so they'd buy me "drinks"
just wasn't my thing. if it's yours, more power to ya, I guess, but it
doesn't take any talent to shake your ass for dollar bills, hon, or to act
like you'd fuck a guy so he'll give you money

(and yes, I'm aware that customers who "just want to talk" exist, and if you
believe that line, i have no idea how you made dean's list)

pixie




> You say it
> takes talent to be a STRIPPER? I say it takes nice tits and a tight
> ass!!



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 20:08:25 1999
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YES!!!  it was quite delicious.  godbless happy hardcore.  it makes my
world a better place.  i didnt get to stay all nite as planned but
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 20:10:48 1999
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:

> actually all it takes is a willingness to take your clothes off and peddle
> your naked body for money, and a shitload of no self-respect. attractiveness
> is not a factor. ability and willingness to pretend to be a sexual fantasy
> for dirty old men and college boys is.
> 
> coming from an ex-stripper...

Wow you are an ex-stripper? Me too.

>so don't even try to play that crap with me. i
> finally decided pretending to like those creeps so they'd buy me "drinks"
> just wasn't my thing. if it's yours, more power to ya, I guess, but it
> doesn't take any talent to shake your ass for dollar bills, hon, or to act
> like you'd fuck a guy so he'll give you money


Listen to her. She knows what she is talking about.

> (and yes, I'm aware that customers who "just want to talk" exist, and if you
> believe that line, i have no idea how you made dean's list)


Easy pixie. We all believed that at some point. Sometimes you just want to
believe that.

> pixie

> 
> 
> 
> 
> > You say it
> > takes talent to be a STRIPPER? I say it takes nice tits and a tight
> > ass!!
> 
> 
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Is it just me or does it seem like a lot of girls in the scene strip or
have stripped for a living...HMMMMMMMMMMM ... ponder =)


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> > > You say it
> > > takes talent to be a STRIPPER? I say it takes nice tits and a tight
> > > ass!!

I tend to believe that I have a nice tits and a tight ass

(at least i like to show off my tits)

Can i be a stripper




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>Is it just me or does it seem like a lot of girls in the scene strip or
>have stripped for a living...HMMMMMMMMMMM ... ponder =)

Is it me or did we have this discussion on this list about 7 or 8 
months ago? or was it last year? Damn......it's been that long?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 20:19:19 1999
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tom and ed (rowlands and simmons) met at college in the late 80's.  tom had 
released a few records on deconstruction records (founded in 1987 and was 
mostly responsible for bringing dance music mainsteam in the 90s).  they 
found common ground in their love for acid house music and began spining at 
house parties together, calling themselves the dust brothers (after the west 
coast hip-hop crew who did a whole bunch of mixs and helped out the beasties 
and beck and etc.).  they soon started making their own shit (around 1993) 
and were asked to do a bunch of remixes.  in 1995 they were signed to virgin 
records(changing their name to chemical bros. for legal reasons) and the rest 
you probably lived through (the block rockin beats on the mainstream radio 
station)..
oh shit, class just started gotta go..

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 20:22:20 1999
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> > (and yes, I'm aware that customers who "just want to talk" exist, and if
you
> > believe that line, i have no idea how you made dean's list)
>
> Easy pixie. We all believed that at some point. Sometimes you just want to
> believe that.

you are right, though I never really believed it, I think I tried to believe
it at one point to justify what I was doing, but it didn't work.

Something that just occured to me: Hon, if you are on the dean's list at
school, then it's awfully hard for me to believe that you had to settle for
a job like stripping. when I was stripping, i would have killed to be in
school, because it would have given me better job opportunities just to say
I was in school (and yes, I lived in Columbus at the time) there are much
better opportunities out there for someone who is as smart as you are ( or
say you are...don't get mad, but I don't know you) you just have to bite the
bullet and look for them. Trust me, stripping is NOT where it's at...if you
really think it is, then why are you going to school?




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  All I gotta say is.. If anyone wants me to strip nekid and run around at 
their party.. I am available for immediate bookings..

You may have seen exploits of mine at interstellar dreamfest and before that 
lil' further amongst others..

  I am proud of being nekid, and will even do an awkward, non-arousing strip 
tease to boot..

Hit me back if yer interested...

           Love to all
                (0_o) Dan Sharp

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My new set opening.....


I want you do dance nekkid, if you want I'll join you




Adam Sjogren
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 20:49:34 1999
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Consider it so...
    Name the time and place.. I will be there...
          No fear, except cold water..
              Dan Sharp (0_o)
>

My new set opening.....
>
>
>I want you do dance nekkid, if you want I'll join you
>
>
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hey i think nickel has a point... if all strippers relied soley on their 
talent then the strippers at wtw2 wouldnt have been scared of scratching and 
bruising their "attractive" bodies in the mud pit...
i know that some dancers have amazing talent ...but most patrons are looking 
at your tits and your ass not your dance moves.

whendee


>DJ Nickel wrote:
>>and what do strippers rely on most?  definitely not talent.
>
>Hi all, I'm Diz from Columbus.  I'm new to the list and I just wanted to
>send a PLURRY shout out to all of you!
>
>Nickel - I think you're a prejudiced ASSH*LE.  I'm a "stripper" and what 
>you
>say is total BS.  We are dancers, and guess what! Dancing takes talent,
>which I have in total abundance.
>
>Sorry to have to come all out with a rant like that.  But I'm sick of 
>taking
>attitude about what I do.  Did I meantion I'm on the dean's list at my
>college? Oh...but I guess "strippers" don't rely on talent.
>
>What a great way to give my intro...oh well... ;-D
>
>Peace,
>~ Diz ~
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where do you work, exactly?



On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Discord 23 wrote:

> DJ Nickel wrote:
> >and what do strippers rely on most?  definitely not talent.
> 
> Hi all, I'm Diz from Columbus.  I'm new to the list and I just wanted to 
> send a PLURRY shout out to all of you!
> 
> Nickel - I think you're a prejudiced ASSH*LE.  I'm a "stripper" and what you 
> say is total BS.  We are dancers, and guess what! Dancing takes talent, 
> which I have in total abundance.
> 
> Sorry to have to come all out with a rant like that.  But I'm sick of taking 
> attitude about what I do.  Did I meantion I'm on the dean's list at my 
> college? Oh...but I guess "strippers" don't rely on talent.
> 
> What a great way to give my intro...oh well... ;-D
> 
> Peace,
> ~ Diz ~
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i used to go out with a stripper...


On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:

> actually all it takes is a willingness to take your clothes off and peddle
> your naked body for money, and a shitload of no self-respect. attractiveness
> is not a factor. ability and willingness to pretend to be a sexual fantasy
> for dirty old men and college boys is.
> 
> coming from an ex-stripper...so don't even try to play that crap with me. i
> finally decided pretending to like those creeps so they'd buy me "drinks"
> just wasn't my thing. if it's yours, more power to ya, I guess, but it
> doesn't take any talent to shake your ass for dollar bills, hon, or to act
> like you'd fuck a guy so he'll give you money
> 
> (and yes, I'm aware that customers who "just want to talk" exist, and if you
> believe that line, i have no idea how you made dean's list)
> 
> pixie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > You say it
> > takes talent to be a STRIPPER? I say it takes nice tits and a tight
> > ass!!
> 
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 21:11:06 1999
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>Oh I disagree completely.  I mean, have you seen the whole ping pong ball
>shooting thing?  Now THAT is a talent!  Though I don't see it having
>anything to do with dancing.
>
>
  Hey i have been practicing my kegels whenever i am on th computer and i am 
planning on running away with my friends circus next summer so if any of you 
gals have any pointers send them my way.

whendee

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I was at Further. As you can see from the picture, I was pretty out of it
the whole time doing drugs and all... 

www.delusionsofreference.com



this picture was taken Friday night, the party had only begun y0!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 21:14:42 1999
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OK people so me and Misha aka Superstar DJ Tsar are going down to Atlanta
for Liquid Groove's 5 year to see Sasha and J Majik..we already got a place
to stay and everything so all we need is sum people to go..so if you can be
in the Louisville/Lexington area Friday oct 29th (there's an all jungle
party that nite in Louisville that nite we plan on attending) please e-mail
me back privately..all we ask is you help pay for gas...alrite hopefully
people will wanna go even tho misha is goin but i will make sure he's a
good boi...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 21:22:33 1999
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so they're finally up.  (thanks to greg and his server space)
the pics aren't as interesting and the comments not as witty as chrise's,
but they'll do for some reminiscing.
sorry i'm missing some shots of some cool ppl....y'all know i love ya
anyway =)

enjoy:

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 21:22:35 1999
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ditto...
my only strip show was at massive at lil furthur and then mud wrestling this 
past weekend...i have been offered the opputunity to shake it to some booty 
house on top of the amps... and i think i will do it just to see if any 
little shitheads say anything about my beutifull hairy legs , 'cause i will 
be on the speakers and can kick them in thier candy heads...
whendee


>>  All I gotta say is.. If anyone wants me to strip nekid and run
>around at
>their party.. I am available for immediate bookings..
>
>You may have seen exploits of mine at interstellar dreamfest and before 
>that
>lil' further amongst others..
>
>  I am proud of being nekid, and will even do an awkward, non-arousing 
>strip
>tease to boot..
>
>Hit me back if yer interested...
>
>           Love to all
>                (0_o) Dan Sharp
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Subject: [mw] Anyone for Atlanta Halloween weekend???


> OK people so me and Misha aka Superstar DJ Tsar are going down to Atlanta
> for Liquid Groove's 5 year to see Sasha and J Majik..we already got a
place
> to stay and everything so all we need is sum people to go..so if you can
be
> in the Louisville/Lexington area Friday oct 29th (there's an all jungle
> party that nite in Louisville that nite we plan on attending) please
e-mail
> me back privately..all we ask is you help pay for gas...alrite hopefully
> people will wanna go even tho misha is goin but i will make sure he's a
> good boi...
>



Ok if peeps from the midwest region are panning on attending the Liquid
Groove 5 year anniversary i strongly advise that you buy advance tickets.
Last year we sold out for this event and had to tturn way about 800 peeps
alot of those peeps were from out of town and did not get advance tickets
and i would hate to see anyone drive a long ways and not be able to get in.
And i have already got a huge response about this event. We will be
releasing the sale of tickets and mail orders next week and this party will
NOT be over $25. It will be limited amount for $20, $22 till a certain date
and $25 after. We do not have a ticket outlet close to the midwest but we do
do mail order tickets and please trust us on our mail orders we are
extremely legit and will not rip anyone off, we've been doing this for 5
years now so please trust us. I will be sending out all the info on how to
get mail orders and all our ticket outlets (we DO NOT do ticket master). If
you would like anymore info please feel free to e-mail me back and i will
answer any and all questions.

Peaceout
Devin



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   thats exactly wut im fuckin sayin !!!!!
         and when i brought that up they just fought some more!!!oh well i 
guess they can do wut they wanna do , 
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BE QUIET YA DAMN HIPPY

                    (0_o) Dan Sharp
      This announcement was brought to you by the letter:

                                F

>
>    thats exactly wut im fuckin sayin !!!!!
>          and when i brought that up they just fought some more!!!oh well i
>guess they can do wut they wanna do ,
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Thursday September 16, 1999
The Cheetah And Slacker Productions Present

EUPHORIC

 Featuring The Fresh Sounds of

STAN DOUBLIN-kindred groove/st.louis

DEEJAY RECHARGE-midwest avengers/cheetah resident/st.louis

BODALEG-st.louis

DON TINSLEY-adobe/st.louis

TWOTONE-stl jungle/st.louis

DANSKI-boogie knights/st.louis

The Cheetah is located in Downtown St.Louis
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            hey ,
  how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? the St.Louie one is up and 
runnin again =),im sooo happy, i love my city,where i can talk ghetto as i 
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Fuck that!
DJ Shiva is one hot bitch!

> dj shiva (who has tits and is not particularly
> "hot", but can wreck 
> turntables...and that's what counts)
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We are glad yer ghetto hic a** is getting off our oh so cool list.. We dont 
need yer types...
   hehehehe
          buh bye..
            if yer ghetto server could actually work you wouldnt need to use 
our oh so perfect list..
           nuff said..

              Good Riddance..
                  (0_o)  Dan Sharp

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>
>             hey ,
>   how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? the St.Louie one is up 
>and
>runnin again =),im sooo happy, i love my city,where i can talk ghetto as i
>fuckin want and not get bitched at,unlike the midwest list inernet geeks!!
>anyways so somebody help me out please      love rachel aka rayray
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In a message dated 99-09-13 19:23:31 EDT, RAYJAY420@aol.com writes:

<<            hey ,
   how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? the St.Louie one is up 
and 
 runnin again =),im sooo happy, i love my city,where i can talk ghetto as i 
 fuckin want and not get bitched at,unlike the midwest list inernet geeks!!   
 anyways so somebody help me out please      love rachel aka rayray >>

damn people are more stoopid than i thought .... theres a couple of sentences 
on everyones mail with all the FAQ about the list ... and u still ask for 
help .... damn do me a favor ... kill yer self

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 23:49:56 1999
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 23:50:51 1999
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I'm 99%of the time sober,
but I still give myself a 10
cuz im a total crackhead!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 13 23:53:44 1999
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i have id pics scanned and ready fer action, but no where to put them... doy 
ou have somewhere i cna put them?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 00:06:40 1999
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I have heard/read it can make it harder to come, too. Especially for
guys. 

-- Robin 

RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Sex isn't any better with drugs... it's just "different." And it helps you
> get girls into bed sometimes when you tell them lines like "You haven't have
> sex until you had sex on ________" (fill in the blank)  It's just a scam
> mostly.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 00:14:25 1999
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Give a 12 pack of guiness , a nice lookin slut and some motherfuckin 
spedkore... and i promess you .,.... i never leave the hous e... and when 
isay a slut i mean it .. i dont like sweet girls i like slutz

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 00:28:56 1999
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hola my names mark aka lil mark back in the day i grew up in the
midwest scene i started going to parties around 94-95 well now im a
marine and im currently deployed in panama.  dont let the marine thing
scare you i think im a pretty level headed guy still and i didnt let
them brainwash me.  ok now to the subject @ hand im in panama city
right now and i get plenty of time off to hit the town soo...  first
off panama is a third world country but there is a small scene of dance
music junkies composed of the small rich elite kids that are
privelaged.  now in panama there are a handful of clubs that play
underground music.  Bacos,taboos,my place, and new york new york.  the
dance music scene plays jungle mostly like intelligent stuff. hip hop
of course very little garage ive heard trance alittle bit and and latin
reggae.  latin reggae being the most popular.  a kind of slowed down
4/4 beat thats too complicated to describe but very very cool.  now
about the clubs i'll get to them later so toon in and i'll get you the
411 later peace and love midwest and stay underground.  dont forget to
write lots of reviews on parties cause i want to hear whats going on in
the states.  and if theres any chicago house heads let me know of any
good recent mixtapes i need to get a hold of alright!!!>>mrk
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 00:30:59 1999
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Whew! Rick, give the judges' bench a rest! You may not agree with or
understand girls (or guys) who strip, but you are not the "right"
police. 

What are you getting so worked up about?

-- Robin 
No! I'm not a stripper!

richard shebestak wrote:
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> (sometimes) but I don't take my clothes off and solicit myself on a
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 00:33:49 1999
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>Give a 12 pack of guiness , a nice lookin slut and some motherfuckin
>spedkore... and i promess you .,.... i never leave the hous e... and when
>isay a slut i mean it .. i dont like sweet girls i like slutz


   Can't I be both ... and a bottle of Southern Comfort instead?

proud to be an  sweet ethical slut
whendee



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 00:33:50 1999
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Hehehe, I was waiting for this to come up -- AGAIN. This was actually an
interesting thread on the list about a year or so ago. 

-- Robin 

Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
> 
> Is it just me or does it seem like a lot of girls in the scene strip or
> have stripped for a living...HMMMMMMMMMMM ... ponder =)
> 
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Speakerphreak@aol.com writes:
>> a list of the have been electronic rock star dj poster boys(girls) who
>>had no
>> talent:
>> keoki
>> dj funk
>> crystal method
>> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
>>
>> anyone else have any contributions?

Are you implying these people got where they
are in the music world because they're attractive?

DJ Funk, um, well, maybe he's kinda cute in
that funky hat (no disrespect to the deceased here),
Crystal Method, oh boy, have you seen these guys?
waaay too nerdy to be supermodels, Fatboy Slim, uh
he's just kinda gangly, Keoki, well, I wouldn't want
to bump into him in a public shower :/  ... :P

(I guess as a heterosexual male I'm not THE best
judge, but you get the idea.)

If you're pointing out that these guys are getting a
lot of press, well that's true, but it isn't because
they're so unusually good looking, it has to do with
marketing, what the public wants, their personalities,
and above all their music.  This doesn't really relate
to the "tits" thread.

I mean, if Crystal Method got where they are because
of pretty faces, I should be bigger than Elvis by now...

:P  (that means I'm joking)

np: Billie Ray Martin "Your Loving Arms" 12"
<-- another hottie!

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. . . For Boo 4 on Oct. 10th (Sunday)?  If unfamiliar with the lineup, I can 
post if anyone's interested.  It definetly contains some mind-blowing 
talent.  NYC (Chelsea--Manhattan) is my new residence.  As a "born & raised" 
midwest kid, I'm hoping some kids are coming out.  If anyone is, please e me 
privatly so we can hook it all up.
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Anyone go to the party in Grand Rapids this last Saturday?

adrienne

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In a message dated 9/13/99 19:33:16, nakedgirl666@hotmail.com writes:

<< Can't I be both ... and a bottle of Southern Comfort instead?

proud to be an  sweet ethical slut
whendee>>

damn where do u live .. i need me a whore


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 03:15:31 1999
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i am going to skool here.  i started going to the aliensquad parties
last spring - the dieselboy party in fact.  i am just curious as to
what is here (all i know of is a-squad).  i live in dallas & there is
a ton of stuff there- record stores and promoters and what not.  i
mostly want to know who throws parties and on what time schedule. 
over the summer there were several parties in dallas every weekend in
addition to the club scene - which many are 18+ not like here.  
and i would like to know where to pick up cd's of the dance variety -
some of the harder to find stuff (not the crap that makes it to z103). 

peace-

chad 







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> |--- Original Message ---
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> |Date: 9/12/99 7:00:14 PM
> |
> 
> |can someone give me the scoop on whats up in the lexington area.
>  i
> |know aliensquad is here in town but is there anything else?
>  also
> |where to get choonz-
> |
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> Are you new to Lexington?  What do you know about it?  I can
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 03:35:37 1999
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Right now, I would have to rate myself at about a 6.  I used to be a 10, but 
I cut back alot, which I am very proud of :) I've never been to a party 
sober, but am kinda looking forward toit :)

~Spaz~

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 03:49:39 1999
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i finally got my film developed.
furthur pix at: http://pubnix.org/~jes/pictures/partypix.html#ef99
dreamfest pix at: http://pubnix.org/~jes/pictures/partypix.html#id99
(they're on the same page, so you can just scroll down)

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http:huizen.dds.nl/~eye-d/s00zi/



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 04:28:50 1999
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add former lead singer of dee-Lite Lady Miss Kier aka DJ Kier.

And sorry about the hype...but Goldie was a joke everytime I saw him.

the end.

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:

> ummm
> chemical brothers
> prodigy
> traci lords
> dj rap
> jason blakemore (tired ass la dj)
> joey beltram (tired of hearing the same set)
> 
> Speakerphreak@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > a list of the have been electronic rock star dj poster boys(girls) who had no
> > talent:
> > keoki
> > dj funk
> > crystal method
> > fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
> >
> > anyone else have any contributions?
> >
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> 
> 
> --
> -jared (a.k.a. dj nickel)
>  booking: djnickel@earthlink.net
>  a.i.m. screen name deejnickel
>  ghettoe ass soundsistem famillee
>  friends of friends netwerk
>   g.a.s. famillee/f.o.f. netwerk website:
>    http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/
> -techno is my drug of choice
>   Ipso Facto Body Piercing:
>    http://www.ipso-factobodypiercing.com
>   Ipso Facto Uber-Goth online catalog:
>    http://www.ipso-facto.com
> "i'm so goth, i fart cobwebs!"
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 04:32:15 1999
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Damn!  Again?  Jees, how long's it gonna take for peeps to notive the
little blurb?  It seems the only people who are noticing the little
statement at the bottom of every post, are the peeps that wanna stay ON
mw-raves!  jees.

=)
Kale/DreamSequence

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:

>             hey ,
>   how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? the St.Louie one is up and 
> runnin again =),im sooo happy, i love my city,where i can talk ghetto as i 
> fuckin want and not get bitched at,unlike the midwest list inernet geeks!!   
> anyways so somebody help me out please      love rachel aka rayray
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Fuck DJ RAP!!
Ray Ray has got to go.
Drugs and alcohol take your life force away from you and make
you live a shorter life....so keep it up kids...


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 04:41:30 1999
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I had sex sober and it made a BABY!!!
Nuff said....shut the fuck up already!


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HELP ME!!!! How do I get on mw-raves?

I hear the latest thread is about a 16 y/o drug addicted, yet responsible
raver,ex-stripper (who is Suzi's sister and dated the evil Spree before
Happy Hardcore made him gay) and she made the deans list while filming a sex
scene at ALL A'BOUT IT with DJ Funk, who had been shot dead by Biggie just 2
weeks prior.

werd to your mama peeps...ho's down wiff OPP?

-Toby

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Alex....you are the man.
Don't step to DJ Suer.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 04:58:23 1999
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All I have to say is I love it......it saves SOOOO much time.

And, I can still be an ASS...maybe even more.


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Pulled this off another list...found it extra amusing. 
june

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:09:26 PDT
From: b i j o u <vbijou@hotmail.com>
To: sisterdjs@hyperreal.org
Subject: the future of drum n bass

hahaha!
courtney, this has to be the funniest joke
what a great way to start a monday :)

bijou

From: Alex Zakharov <sidrow@ionsys.com>
To: forwardbound@ffwd.com
Subject: [forwardbound] Press Release ;)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:49:51 -0400


NEW YORK CITY, NY. --SEPTEMBER 10, 1999 -- Contrast Artist Management, a 
booking agency for primarily "underground" drum and bass, house, and techno 
DJs and PAs, today announced that it will be handling all domestic bookings 
for the live drum and bass PA of pop artist Britney Spears.

The PA, consisting of Britney on vocals, San Francisco Phunckateck
prettyboy DJ Abstract working the beats and basslines, and New York Calvin 
Klein model turned DJ Mark Rhonson on the turntables adding some hip hop 
flavor, will be touring the United States this fall.

"I see this as a tremendous step for stateside drum and bass, and I'm
really excited to work with this group," said Contrast founder and CEO 
Courtney Powell. "Underground producers in this country have been working 
for such a long time to get the recognition that UK superstars like Goldie 
have had. Having an artist of Britney's stature on our side to help fight 
for the cause is really the big push that we've all been waiting for."

DJ Abstract, of San Francisco's Phunckateck crew, was Britney's first
choice to provide the beats. "He's just so adorable," she says of him. "I 
mean, the N'Sync boys even seem jealous." She is quick to point out, 
however, that with a slew of domestic releases on his resume and his own 
label Pneuma Recordings seeing enormous success, Alex Posell is more than 
just a pretty face... Albeit a pretty face sure to add a perfect Seventeen 
Magazine marketing slant. "I'm excited
about this project," he says. "I think Britney is really talented, and 
despite what people may think, she makes a perfect mascot and spokesperson 
for what drum and bass is all about. No one really
knows it, but she's been down for a long time. I mean, probably since even 
before Brown Paper Bag hit MTV."

Mark Rhonson, former Calvin Klein model, is probably best known for his hip 
hop sets at posh NYC hangouts such as Life, where he plays Puff Daddy 
records for models and other beautiful people on a weekly basis. Britney and 
Contrast expect that adding Mark to the mix will add not only a true hip hop 
vibe, but also an attraction for the older crowd, thus updating Britney's 
image from Teen Queen to True Industry Player.

Britney Spears revolutionized the world of pop music earlier this week when 
she placed an authentic jungle breakbeat behind one of her songs at the MTV 
Music Awards. She was enthusiastic about her audience's response, and 
excited to move forward with her plans to become an underground drum and 
bass artist.

A possible spot remains in the lineup for a drum and bass MC. Candidates are 
encouraged to get in touch with project manager Courtney Powell, who can be 
reached at courtney@contrastmusic.com.

          For booking information, please email
bookings@contrastmusic.com,
or call 212-238-3648.


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Goldie,  tagger, mugger, the hardcore hip-hop criminal record profile... born 
in england, street educated in miami and new york,  moved back to england to 
be the hardcore bloke that he was and around 1992 at the age of 28, infuenced 
by technos twisted cousin hardcore, mixed it reggae and fused it with dub and 
helped create what we call today, jungle.  his release on metalheads (later 
changed to metalheadZ) called Angel EP was key in the inovation of 
'inteligent hardcore' or jungle.    in 1995 he released what has been 
acclaimed the greatest jungle album ever...Timeless.  he also dated bjork and 
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>>      - Matt Murphy - wrote:
there's just something about parties in
little tiny towns that are just a blast, and they're cheap too! 

oh hell yeah!!  the zoop kids rock!  they also have a strange knack for pulling locations out of nowhere at the last minute!!!  (anyone go to their sound of music party?)

anyway y'all should check 'em out if ya can!!

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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:13:12 -0700 jared griffith <djnickel@earthlink.net> wrote:
funny thing is, when i saw her (don't ask) she didn't even know how to turn on the tables and mixer!  hahahahah.  then she couldn't mix, so keoki had to come out and help, but somehow, the mixing didn't get any 
BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
better!  ahahahahhahhahhaa.

omigod!  this has GOT to be a joke.  Tracy lords vs. keoki?



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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:28:50 -0500 Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com> wrote:
>Woody spun Madonna's "Ray Of Light" at one of his Mpls parties "Stoopid
>Fresh". It was a bit disturbing, I have to admit...

he also dropped 'listen to the music' by the doobie brothers at a party in northern colorado a couple years ago.  (and i must admit that 'ray of light' and nearly all things madonna are a guilty pleasure for this hardcore mother...)

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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:20:43 EDT RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>            hey ,
>  how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? 


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

(deep breath)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!


(wipes tear from eye....)  Gosh thanks for the grins ray ray  =-)


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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:07:20 -0500 Robin Urmanic <bpositive@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>I have heard/read it can make it harder to come, too. Especially for
>guys. 
>

coming in't the hard part.  it's the hard part that's the hard part.  ie:  for some guys...having sex on e is a little bit like attempting to stuff a sausage in a piggy bank.

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[yuss it happened to me but it did <eventually> work out....(honest!!)....but still...i've had better sex sober...e-puddling naked is fun tho.... =]

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hell yeah!! she's leavin??!!! WOOO!!!!

now we won't have to listen to her trendy teenie bopper "let's go rave with
barbie" tirades and we can go back to having meaningful internet geek
conversation!! YEA!!

=P``

pixie



>            hey ,
>  how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? the St.Louie one is up
and
>runnin again =),im sooo happy, i love my city,where i can talk ghetto as i
>fuckin want and not get bitched at,unlike the midwest list inernet geeks!!
>anyways so somebody help me out please      love rachel aka rayray
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  Whats funny about this, is that I was taking grief about how I reacted to 
Ray Ray saying she was leaving the list and going back to the St. Louis 
list. Now, I carefully have re-read her post, and all i can say is.. 
STAN/RAY RAY.. go play in some traffic and get off my ass..

        I am experimenting with the DARK SIDE TO CANDY RAVING..
    Dont mess with an angry candykid...

                     (0_o) Dan Sharp

>hell yeah!! she's leavin??!!! WOOO!!!!
>
>now we won't have to listen to her trendy teenie bopper "let's go rave with
>barbie" tirades and we can go back to having meaningful internet geek
>conversation!! YEA!!
>
>=P``
>
>pixie
>
>
>
> >            hey ,
> >  how the hell do i get off the Midwest list?????? the St.Louie one is up
>and
> >runnin again =),im sooo happy, i love my city,where i can talk ghetto as 
>i
> >fuckin want and not get bitched at,unlike the midwest list inernet 
>geeks!!
> >anyways so somebody help me out please      love rachel aka rayray
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Psyko Slinky bong wrote:
> >I have heard/read it can make it harder to come, too. Especially for
> >guys.
> 
> coming in't the hard part.  it's the hard part that's the hard part.  

Yeah, that, too. 

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can anyone get me some info on this party?  i heard about it thru the
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> http:huizen.dds.nl/~eye-d/s00zi/

    huh? look at pic 06, I didn't know madkid played ID???

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> >> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)

Hey there judgemental, you've never seen norman cook spin have you?

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yep


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BLOSSOM.....WHOA.....WHOA......WHOA!!!!!                   Phil being
possessed by stupid Joey.....WHOA.

doris wrote:

> > >DJ RAP ON WHY AMERICAN MEN ARE BETTER.
> > >It's a well known fact that English guys are boring and ugly. I
> > >keep saying to girls in England, we need to do a swap because
> > >the girls in England are all really cool and beautiful but the English
> > >guys are like "Eww!" You come to America and the guys are pretty
> > >cute, so we need to swap sides.
>
> hey i'd be down w/ that.  then we'd get all the blokes w/ the sexy
> accents.  =D   swap all you must.
> **doris**
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nope it's not a joke.
didn't any of you people hear or see the Traci Lords house record she released?
she played the E-nit festival (the first one) in like 1995 or some shit.
it was her, keoki, "world premier" f.s.o.l. movie/video, and a couple other people, i forgot who.
now, you all may be asking why i went to this thing?
cuz well, f.s.o.l. is pretty damn cool, and i am a perry farrell junky (porno for pyros was supposed to play), and there was one or two other dj's that i wanted to see, and i got to go for free!
plus it was pretty damn entertaining to see traci lords try to dj! ahhahahha.

Psyko Slinky bong wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:13:12 -0700 jared griffith <djnickel@earthlink.net> wrote:
> funny thing is, when i saw her (don't ask) she didn't even know how to turn on the tables and mixer!  hahahahah.  then she couldn't mix, so keoki had to come out and help, but somehow, the mixing didn't get any
> BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
> better!  ahahahahhahhahhaa.
>
> omigod!  this has GOT to be a joke.  Tracy lords vs. keoki?
>
> dis=c0!
> you.eff.owe.t3chno
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 16:25:04 1999
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oh my dan please come back to the brighter side :P  the dark side is not
for you

James



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hello everyone,
my name is sam, and i'm new to this list. so let me tell you more about 
myself, i am a trance lover and hard house. i am 21 years old. i lived out 
on my own since i graduated h.s in 96. i've had the same b/f for 5 years 
now, and yeah i live with him. i live in michigan. linden to be exact. and 
if any of you kids are going to barely legal 2 let me know, we can meet up 
there. cuz i'll be there for sure...


Luv ya, talk to you later
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awesome fucking saturday/sunday.

started out @ Center St. days festival thing. Boopusher dropped some
junglinz. me an Dr. Thunder split an hour o core. Dr. Thunder ended wif
stuntrock's addict002 track in da mix wif some millivannilli
girl-you-know-its-true-remix. forkin wintage. i played 2 torgull
rekkids, ambush006, fear, industrial terror squad, mo fear, sonic
overkill, titanium steel, stella michelson, mo sonic overkill, total
output, etc. untill the people unfortunate enough to live right next to
where da stage was were screamin at me to turn it off. musta done sumpin
right! hehe!
started to get a wee bit too buzzed as i knew i had a long night ahead,
so i ate one wee yohimbe pill roun 7pm. got jacked instantly, but not in
a pleasent way. by the time wendy, angelus, micronaught an i got to de
party, i was ready to horque and did so all over de parkin lot as soon
as i got out de car. felt somewhat better after that though.
the hired strippers were fixin ta get nekkid right then, so we all
procured big-ass 64oz. megabuddy cups o beer and checked da shit out.
they were fly an all, but jus kinda prancin about da mud-pit, not doin
much wrasslin, an it took ferever fer dem hoez ta get dem clothes off.
best part was when stuntrock an matt jumped in there an threw da girlies
aroun a bit and whipped mud at us innocent spectaters. it'was rounabout
dis time dat i saw me homegirl heather/tweaksuks an finally met derek
whas-hiss-name playstation,( you da man yo. send me yer snal addy so i
can send ya a copy of yer OG beatbox tape) and i met de lovely lauryn g
AGAIN (didn't recognize ya at first, i was kina tore up dat night at
furthur in de beer garden yo).
hmmmm. oh yeah, there was music there too!! saw a bit of dirty collins.
anonymous absolutely fuckin TORE shit da fuck UP!!!! really diverse, but
hard an dark throughout set, an all da while he's bangin his head and
pumpin fists in da ayer like a tru player, which rawked da crowd like a
magikist. anonymous whoops a cheetah's ass. then i think we drank da
mead. jus when ya thought that da music couldn't sound any better than
with anonymous, danmouse stepsup fer da dual fastracker-of-death. the
crowd roared like a lion. dood played everythang from da AO-hell trak,
to B-E-E-R, to da new wrasslin bit, and a shitload new shite and new
remixes of past shit, all absolutely fucking relentlessly as da barn
damn near fell in on itself from everybody all-out RAGE-ing. dan whips a
wildebeast's ass.
i think after dat's when we ran into atomly, jason111, an lauryn again.
then it was time fer da REAL mudwrasslin to commense!! wendy and rna
fuckin stepped in da pit, tore off dem clothes, and proceeded ta whup da
shit outta each other fer a good twenty minits er so, putting the hired
strippers ta fucking shame. that whupped a wombat's ass. jus as the
warrior princesses got dey nekkid asses to de hayowse fer showaz, the
cops made thier obligatory hassle stop. somehow, as always, jeff managed
to send em on their way an da music fired up again. i spent pretty much
da resta da night drankin, trippin, an talkin shit when i wasn't too
busy skipping through the adjacent soybean fields freakin out on the
stars. i saw a shitload of shooting stars as well. i'd tell y'all what i
wished for, but then i'd have ta kill ya, and that would be a hassle. oh
yeah, shawn got nekkid again, and gave me a piggy back ride around da
fire fore fallin down an dumpin me on my arse. fuckin nekkid people.
word up to dica & chrisE, jesse, wendy, atomly, jason111, laurynG,
derek, heather, smooveB, nekkidman shawn, boopusher and da resta our
posse, da massive posse, da distort/addict posse, any other posse's i
may have fergotten, and esp. to jeff and his kin fer continuing to trow
down this crazy shit again an again.

that party fucking rocked my world.

--aRNO

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>I didn't know madkid played ID???

Yep, I took him to the airport myself.....he was there!

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From: Sarah <sarahb@cyberspace.org>
To: Matt Colston <driverfnd@hotmail.com>
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Matt Colston wrote:

> i don't even know what to say about this.  got this off mw-raves list
> i'm about to email this lady at the end of this monstrosity of an idea and 
> tell her to keep her slimy green hands off of the drum and bass scene...

This madness all started with that Jordana/187 remix of "One More Time" on
the MTV awards the other night. Apperantly Britney likes Drum&Bass, big
deal. 

> as 
> far as brittney spears, i don't know what she's thinking, but i definitley 
> better not see her name on a flyer
> 

You're too late. Here is a flyer I found after doing a search for Britney
on the G.R.I.D at hyperreal. 

         31-12-1999

                                    Earthcore Entertainment
                                    Jungle Massive Australia
                                           Clan Analogue
                                               and
                                             Fusion
                                           bring to you:

                              Dawn of the Millenium


                    Three of Australia's top organisations bring you THE 
                    party to kick off the next 1000 years!! With an unreal 
                    lineup of talent from all over the world this event
promises 
                    to be the largest event in Australia's history.


       House/Progressive Trance Arena

       Paul Oakenfold (UK)
       Sasha & Digweed (UK)
       Judge Jules           (UK)
       Towa Tei              (Japan)
       Richard Humpty Vision (USA)
       Kevin Saunderson (USA)
       Sandra Collins (USA)
       DJ Vadim  (Russia)
       DJ Brink (New Zealand)
       Bollocks (New Zealand)

       Drum and Bass Arena

       UK
       Aphrodite
       Mickey Finn
       Rob Playford
       DJ Rap with MC Fearless
       Shy FX
       Bad Company


       US
       Soulslinger
       Britney Spears (spinning a special Drum&Bass set!)
       Abstract
       E-Sassin
       Jordana
       AK1200

       Live PA Arena
       The Prodigy
       The Chemical Bros
       Britney Spears with DJ Abstract
       Lady Miss Kier
       The Crystal Method
       Black Grape

       Australia Arena (brought to you by Clan Analogue and Earthcore)

       Venom
       Coco Pop
       Pebbles
       Ronnit
       Nutra Sweet
       Liz Millar
       Biftek
       Fiona Horn
       Niquita
       Sam G
       Trish
       Kundalini
       Queen Martine
       Lush
       Kate S
       Kung Fu Vixen
       Lisa D
       Chewy
       Kayla


       This event is going down at the Melbourne West Gate Sports and
Entertainment 
       Centre. It will run from 1900 New Year's Eve on through until 1100
New Year's Day! 
       Tickets MUST be bought in advance and are $45 + booking fee.
Tickets are available at 
       all TicketTron locations. They will most definately go fast so get
yours EARLY. For 
       additional information please callthe Fusion line - (02) 9698 8863




> >From: <jtn312@hecky.acns.nwu.edu>
> >Reply-To: <jtn312@hecky.acns.nwu.edu>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [mw] the future of drum n bass (fwd)
> >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:03:12 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >Pulled this off another list...found it extra amusing.
> >june
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:09:26 PDT
> >From: b i j o u <vbijou@hotmail.com>
> >To: sisterdjs@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: the future of drum n bass
> >
> >hahaha!
> >courtney, this has to be the funniest joke
> >what a great way to start a monday :)
> >
> >bijou
> >
> >From: Alex Zakharov <sidrow@ionsys.com>
> >To: forwardbound@ffwd.com
> >Subject: [forwardbound] Press Release ;)
> >Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:49:51 -0400
> >
> >
> >NEW YORK CITY, NY. --SEPTEMBER 10, 1999 -- Contrast Artist Management, a
> >booking agency for primarily "underground" drum and bass, house, and techno
> >DJs and PAs, today announced that it will be handling all domestic bookings
> >for the live drum and bass PA of pop artist Britney Spears.
> >
> >The PA, consisting of Britney on vocals, San Francisco Phunckateck
> >prettyboy DJ Abstract working the beats and basslines, and New York Calvin
> >Klein model turned DJ Mark Rhonson on the turntables adding some hip hop
> >flavor, will be touring the United States this fall.
> >
> >"I see this as a tremendous step for stateside drum and bass, and I'm
> >really excited to work with this group," said Contrast founder and CEO
> >Courtney Powell. "Underground producers in this country have been working
> >for such a long time to get the recognition that UK superstars like Goldie
> >have had. Having an artist of Britney's stature on our side to help fight
> >for the cause is really the big push that we've all been waiting for."
> >
> >DJ Abstract, of San Francisco's Phunckateck crew, was Britney's first
> >choice to provide the beats. "He's just so adorable," she says of him. "I
> >mean, the N'Sync boys even seem jealous." She is quick to point out,
> >however, that with a slew of domestic releases on his resume and his own
> >label Pneuma Recordings seeing enormous success, Alex Posell is more than
> >just a pretty face... Albeit a pretty face sure to add a perfect Seventeen
> >Magazine marketing slant. "I'm excited
> >about this project," he says. "I think Britney is really talented, and
> >despite what people may think, she makes a perfect mascot and spokesperson
> >for what drum and bass is all about. No one really
> >knows it, but she's been down for a long time. I mean, probably since even
> >before Brown Paper Bag hit MTV."
> >
> >Mark Rhonson, former Calvin Klein model, is probably best known for his hip
> >hop sets at posh NYC hangouts such as Life, where he plays Puff Daddy
> >records for models and other beautiful people on a weekly basis. Britney 
> >and
> >Contrast expect that adding Mark to the mix will add not only a true hip 
> >hop
> >vibe, but also an attraction for the older crowd, thus updating Britney's
> >image from Teen Queen to True Industry Player.
> >
> >Britney Spears revolutionized the world of pop music earlier this week when
> >she placed an authentic jungle breakbeat behind one of her songs at the MTV
> >Music Awards. She was enthusiastic about her audience's response, and
> >excited to move forward with her plans to become an underground drum and
> >bass artist.
> >
> >A possible spot remains in the lineup for a drum and bass MC. Candidates 
> >are
> >encouraged to get in touch with project manager Courtney Powell, who can be
> >reached at courtney@contrastmusic.com.
> >
> >           For booking information, please email
> >bookings@contrastmusic.com,
> >or call 212-238-3648.
> >
> >
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And I picked him up from the airport, so he was def. there..
                (0_o) Dan Sharp


>From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
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>
> >I didn't know madkid played ID???
>
>Yep, I took him to the airport myself.....he was there!
>
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-----Original Message-----
Anyone go to the party in Grand Rapids this last Saturday?
--------------------------

.. anyone on this list from the area? ..

.. the dazy party - it went quite smooth .. everyone i talked to had a great
time, so i'm happy :) .. met up with lots of old friends and new .. there
are more cyber-geeks up here in michigan than just the mw-ravers too :) ..
saw a lot of people from the Yahoo! Michigan Ravers Club - in that club,
there's like 188 or so members from MSU/lansing, UofM/AnnArbor, Detroit
Area, and some from west michigan .. i'm not sure if anyone needs an invite
or not to join, but if anyone is interested, email me for one ..

.. space was dope .. it's an art gallery / community theature type place ..
the art gallery area was the chill space, the theature area (flat floor and
a stage) was the dance area .. we ended up letting people in through the
basement (pretty good size smoke/chill area, up a level to the dance floor,
then up another half level to the chill area (couches, $1 waters, projected
nintendo, etc.) .. all carpeted but the basement .. i think it was a *big*
help for the mood having the 2 chill areas .. a lot of times, people just
wanna chill, hang out in a nice quiet place and talk - i know i do! :) -
if/when you wanna dance, yo - there's the dance floor! :) .. people say it's
all about the music, but imho, it's all about the people, the music just
brings the people together .. blah blah ..

.. we started letting people in at like 10:05pm, the sounds were fully
operational by 11pm, just in time for Greg Rapier .. he kicked it off with a
smooth house / techno set, 12:30-1:30, DJ JD shredded wheat on some techno
cuts, 1:30-3am, DJ DAZY was first class all the way - skills indeed :) ..
with a name like "dazy", it's amazing how many people didn't realize that
she was a girl till she stepped up to the decks! :) (haha) .. tight .. from
3-4am, Tom Smith jacked the house as always with the battle creek dance
floor representation in full effect (crowd was all cheers after the set) ..
next up from 4am-5am was Op-Mode - a nice hard and funky house set - no rest
for the wicked ;) ..

.. turnout was like 260 people with about 30 of them being guests - perfect
size for the venue .. nice and intimate .. i took like 3 rolls ... of film
:) .. i'll be getting the kodak cd on wednesday, so i'll e the list when i
get them posted on p616.com ..

see ya!

art

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Attention: Everything related to Britany Spears performing and
collarborating with DnB artists is a JOKE!

I am amazed at how many people have fallen for this whole bit...  The party,
the thing with Phunkatech, all that is a joke =].

Brandon

P.S. Jordana did NOT do the thing for Britany Spears, it was a bullshit
rumor to begin with.

P.S.S. Do not open an email with the subject "Good Times". If you do, your
entire hard drive will be erased, and your computer's processor will burn
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I bet you feel real stupid now don't you?!?!


tres
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 17:28:55 1999
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i'm moving back to west allis in october.

you don't get too excited about it... it's just one of those things you
just have to do.

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>-- Robin
>No! I'm not a stripper!

but you should be!  bahahaha!


////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus
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>From: "Lowrey,  Dennis" <DLowrey@frk.com>
>To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>,
>"'sacraves@hyperreal.org'" <sacraves@hyperreal.org>
>CC: "'ynos77@hotmail.com'" <ynos77@hotmail.com>,  "'riga420@aol.com'"
><riga420@aol.com>, "Pelletier, Joseph" <JPellet@frk.com>
>Subject: FW: FYI
>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:56:37 -0700
>
>
>
>
>Start saving your pennies guys!
>
>
>From the Ministry Of Sound Website
>
>DJ equipment manufacturers Vestax caused shockwaves at this week?s Plaza
>sound equipment trade fair when they revealed a prototype model
>of their new home vinyl-cutting lathe. Due for release next spring, the
>Vestax machine is the first new vinyl cutter to be released for over twenty
>years and could have a huge impact on the 12? dance market. The lathe works
>in exactly the same way as a lathe in a professional cutting house, using a
>diamond cutter to scratch grooves into the vinyl. At a predicted £4000, the
>DiY vinyl-maker doesn?t come cheap, but there will no doubt be plenty of
>people prepared to pay for the privilege of cutting their own dub-plates 
>and
>
>acetates. At present there are only a handful of cutting houses offering
>such facilities or indeed cutting vinyl at all, but the Vestax cutter 
>should
>
>provide a welcome shot in the arm for the vinyl market, as well as taking
>the bedroom production revolution to its logical
>conclusion. What with CDRs, MP3 and now DiY vinyl, it seems to be getting
>easier than  ever for bedroom producers to get their music out there, all 
>of
>
>which leaves us asking ?
>why the hell didn?t someone think of this before??
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 17:47:02 1999
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okay...so i am finally back from madison...and finally got some
sleep...(and finally went to class too...<pats myself on the back>...so i
suppose now i can give you a review for the wtw party...

i had a lot of fun...consumed mass beer...mud wrestled...it was
interesting...the music was pretty good...to start off with, i heard my
friend joel spin (i dont know what he is spinnin under these days...but he
spins tekno...mostly of the swedish kind...stompy 'n drummy...i liked it.)
next up, there was da bootyhaus...which was pretty crazy...after that,
here and there i caught bits and pieces of different people's
sets...anonymous was pretty good...as was doormouse...what i heard of them
anyway...i spent most of the night engaged in conversation or asleep...was
tired...=P

but anyways...i should now give some shout outs...first to derek...hahah
and you didnt think i would get in the mud...i showed you! heheheh...=)
and to jason...thanks! =)  and to miss applesauce...i luvz yew*....and to
chrise and dica..ill be back for halloween!...and to arno...=) and to
whendee... wooohooo girls who get in the mud rawk*...and to
trunk...congrats on the wee one* on da way...and to jesse...nice to
finally meet you...and to everyone else that i might have
forgotten...ooopz...i has a bad memory...=P  

well...i have a lot of catching up to do on homework since i kinda slacked
off for the past couple of weeks...so dont really expect a lot of posts
from me for a lil while...gotta lotta stuffz to do...but if you want to
email me privately or whatever, i will get back to you...i just dont have
a lot of time to keep up with the list right now...

at any rate...im out..

lates*
lauryn =)

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I am SOOOOOOOOO getting one of these

dub plate pressure for all the massive


LIGHTAH, RAIDER, SLAYER

okay im done


>From: ". craig/spree ." <xotis@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: ". craig/spree ." <xotis@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] FW: FYI
>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:38:26 PDT
>
>>From: "Lowrey,  Dennis" <DLowrey@frk.com>
>>To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>,
>>"'sacraves@hyperreal.org'" <sacraves@hyperreal.org>
>>CC: "'ynos77@hotmail.com'" <ynos77@hotmail.com>,  "'riga420@aol.com'"
>><riga420@aol.com>, "Pelletier, Joseph" <JPellet@frk.com>
>>Subject: FW: FYI
>>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:56:37 -0700
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Start saving your pennies guys!
>>
>>
>>From the Ministry Of Sound Website
>>
>>DJ equipment manufacturers Vestax caused shockwaves at this week?s Plaza
>>sound equipment trade fair when they revealed a prototype model
>>of their new home vinyl-cutting lathe. Due for release next spring, the
>>Vestax machine is the first new vinyl cutter to be released for over 
>>twenty
>>years and could have a huge impact on the 12? dance market. The lathe 
>>works
>>in exactly the same way as a lathe in a professional cutting house, using 
>>a
>>diamond cutter to scratch grooves into the vinyl. At a predicted £4000, 
>>the
>>DiY vinyl-maker doesn?t come cheap, but there will no doubt be plenty of
>>people prepared to pay for the privilege of cutting their own dub-plates
>>and
>>
>>acetates. At present there are only a handful of cutting houses offering
>>such facilities or indeed cutting vinyl at all, but the Vestax cutter
>>should
>>
>>provide a welcome shot in the arm for the vinyl market, as well as taking
>>the bedroom production revolution to its logical
>>conclusion. What with CDRs, MP3 and now DiY vinyl, it seems to be getting
>>easier than  ever for bedroom producers to get their music out there, all
>>of
>>
>>which leaves us asking ?
>>why the hell didn?t someone think of this before??
>>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 17:55:47 1999
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His name was on the flyer at Cynestasia and Let it Be. His plane landed at 
the gate I was flying out of on Saturday, so we chatted for a bit, he was 
there no doubt :-)

-Craig
http://members.xoom.com/djspree
http://www.kickinbeats.com

>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:25:42 -0500
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>Subject: Re: [mw] for those of you who care...my pix of ID are up
>
> > http:huizen.dds.nl/~eye-d/s00zi/
>
>     huh? look at pic 06, I didn't know madkid played ID???
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 18:01:56 1999
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ok i havnt really followed this string but i did see the mention of sex and 
drugs.  personally when rolling anything more than forplay  bring me down 
from my roll as do alot of me friends say


probaly TMI but o well
gabe

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>His name was on the flyer at Cynestasia and Let it Be. His plane landed at
>the gate I was flying out of on Saturday, so we chatted for a bit, he was
>there no doubt :-)


>> > http:huizen.dds.nl/~eye-d/s00zi/
>>
>>     huh? look at pic 06, I didn't know madkid played ID???


    ok, ok guys, I get it, he was there, I was surprised, that's all, I
believe you now, stop posting about it!!! =]

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>I am SOOOOOOOOO getting one of these
>
>dub plate pressure for all the massive


    hehe, you might want to start by getting a set of tables first... =]

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 18:19:29 1999
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<Hey there judgemental, you've never seen norman cook spin have you?
 yes i saw him spin at homelands in england about 3 months ago.  it was one 
of the worst acts that i saw at the festivle.  he also spun in mpls recently 
at the quest and did not improve.  his albums are average,  better living 
through chemistry was a joke.  he is constantly bragging about his drug use, 
and the fact that he has not spun a sober set in xx years.  cool man, so 
cool...
he has been releasing shit since the late 80's,  his first "chartbuster" was 
a remix of i know you got soul.   he released a whole bunch more "top twenty 
hits" under a plethera o psudonyms including beats international, freak power 
and the ever so top 40 pizzaman.  most of these song were written in what is 
now known as the "big beat' formula.  he has become as of late, a cliche of 
himself... not really progressing at all,  just sort of regugitating what has 
worked for him in the past,  and if you think that most top twenty hits are 
ground breaking and incredible (um, macarana, ray of light, im horny) then i 
dont know what to tell you.  as far as his mixing ability goes, it is second 
rate, his track selection is weak and his mixes are mostly rushed and 
sketchy.  this has been my impression... he jumps around and looks at the 
crowd and is like "i am fuking in heaven", 
 he recently got married to (i think her name is )zoe,  a club dj from 
london. 

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-->Drugs and alcohol take your life force away from you and make
-->you live a shorter life....so keep it up kids...

Same goes for smokin' and drinkin'!!!! Not to mention masturbation and
not going to church every Sunday!!!!

Remember folks, if it feels good, then that's all the motivation
you should need.  And of course it's worth over-doing it.  

Live fast.  Die young.  Make the cops shut the party down when you're
thru.

flame on,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 18:40:31 1999
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Who needs tables?
>
>
> >I am SOOOOOOOOO getting one of these
> >
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    no idea, some of those less talented DJs think they're useful, but you
and I know better, I just plug the amp into my butt while I spin the record
on my nose and use my fingernail to read the records. I'm underground you
see.

        -- Matt Murphy --

>Who needs tables?
>>
>>
>> >I am SOOOOOOOOO getting one of these
>> >
>> >dub plate pressure for all the massive
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well kids here is the scoop, infinity is throwing the first all trance and 
progressive house party that has hit detroit.

TRANCEFORMERS
Sept 25,1999

line up

mars and mystre
drc
thomas michael
jason blackmore
wilhelm k
cdx
scotty v.

$20.00 pre-sale
$20.00 out of state w/ id----please buy your tickets online.
www.tixtogo.com/go/infinity
$25.00 @ the door
$30.00 after 12:30

info line 810-220-9883




Luv ya, talk to you later
Sam

i'll be at this party for sure.....just look for me. i'll let you know what 
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Hey Sam,  :)

You forgot to give the url with the flyer online.  :)

www.audioartproductions.com

I'll be there and so will a bunch of my friends.  Look forward to meeting 
you!  :)

Later guyz,

Bop / Jim

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I am back.
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Awww...Geeezzz...and im gunnah be outta town.....

I miss all the good stuff.....

derek.



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From: Sam Merrill <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
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>well kids here is the scoop, infinity is throwing the first all trance and
>progressive house party that has hit detroit.
>
>TRANCEFORMERS
>Sept 25,1999
>
>line up
>
>mars and mystre
>drc
>thomas michael
>jason blackmore
>wilhelm k
>cdx
>scotty v.
>
>$20.00 pre-sale
>$20.00 out of state w/ id----please buy your tickets online.
>www.tixtogo.com/go/infinity
>$25.00 @ the door
>$30.00 after 12:30
>
>info line 810-220-9883
>
>
>
>
>Luv ya, talk to you later
>Sam
>
>i'll be at this party for sure.....just look for me. i'll let you know what
>i'll be wearing if you ask.
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TOMORROW NIGHT!!!!!

September 15

Intuit Productions 2 Year Anniversary


BIG ROOM

DJ RAP
Kenny Ken
G Squad
MC Fearless
Lauren Flax
8en

LOUNGE

Carlos Souffront
Scott Zacherias
Kelvin Larkin

STUDY

DJ Die and Breakbeat Era Listening Party


Located at Motor @ 3515 Caniff, Detroit

Doors @ 9:00 PM    
www.intuit-solar.com


18+  $15 adv

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>I am back.
>-stumps


it's like crack ain't it?!?!

oops... didn't mean to mention "drugs" on this "public-list"...


tres
... what, me bad?!

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ugh!!  somebody kick me before i kick myself for going to rekkid time
today and picking up some flyers.  turns out the vinyl syndicate tour is
coming to detroit, featuring

sniper  (snipuh!!)
mystical influence
dj slip
unknown soljah
l. natural
and fury.

:9

excuse me while i go change my panties, i'm feeling a little moist.

BUT it's the same night as soundstorm in cleveland, which i've been
planning on going to for MONTHS.  what's a girl to do?!?!  now i could
just drive the 4 hrs to toronto to see those jungle people any weekend,
but they're coming to ME, and i won't be there?!?  :/
where should i get my rave on????
another example of ignorance being bliss....


oh and by the way i was at the airport to pick up madkid, so he MOST
DEFINITELY was at ID.  i hope this clears up any confusion  =P~
**doris**

ps: only 2 cigarettes left in what is supposed to be my last pack.  ever.
*gets jittery at the thought*  somebody gimme some support!
and kids, don't get addicted to any chemicals now, habits like that are a
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once again i wuz driving to lunch....

i noticed the trees are already changing colors.  damn - where has the year
gone?  i had one of those interesting introspective 'flashback' thingies on
the past year.  bouncing around listening to spree's 'no boundries' and i
think its like the 2nd or 3rd track where like that twangy guitar thing
comes in to the beat.  i just went whoa and had to like pull over and
seriously just contemplate the world for a minute.  its amazing how music
can effect u emotionally sometimes.  but u know i wouldnt have it any other
way.  thats y i listen to it.  especially electronic music.  to me its the
artists palette and my life is the canvas; i can create anything my mind can
imagine.

that'll b 3.99$.  please drive thru
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>ps: only 2 cigarettes left in what is supposed to be my last pack.  ever.
>*gets jittery at the thought*  somebody gimme some support!
>and kids, don't get addicted to any chemicals now, habits like that are a
>bitch to kick!


hey... i smoked for almost ten years and i kicked it!!

pssst....


YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!


tres

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> 
> I'll be there and so will a bunch of my friends.  Look forward to meeting 
> you!  :)
> 

hush, derek.
i'll be there too.  wooo!!
so who else is coming ravin' w/ us?


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>bouncing around listening to spree's 'no boundries' 

That's Spree AND Tilsz..........give credit where credit is due.

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No way dood, just use the press, and play it back using the $1000 diamond
needle!

Kale/DreamSequence

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i ment spree's side of the tape.  my bad  =D


> >bouncing around listening to spree's 'no boundries' 
> 
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ooo!!  ooo!!  ooo!!
/me raises his hand

ms doris ma'am i am.  unfortunately without the funfur though as it wuz also
the victim in an unfortunate situation involving my transportation vs. the
ghetto.  old story.


> >
> > I'll be there and so will a bunch of my friends.  Look forward to
meeting
> > you!  :)
> >
>
> hush, derek.
> i'll be there too.  wooo!!
> so who else is coming ravin' w/ us?


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WOO HOO!!!  I'm flyin' into deetroit for this pawtee

hope to meet all of you cool detroit peepholes!

PJ


-----Original Message-----
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well kids here is the scoop, infinity is throwing the first all trance and 
progressive house party that has hit detroit.

TRANCEFORMERS
Sept 25,1999

line up

mars and mystre
drc
thomas michael
jason blackmore
wilhelm k
cdx
scotty v.

$20.00 pre-sale
$20.00 out of state w/ id----please buy your tickets online.
www.tixtogo.com/go/infinity
$25.00 @ the door
$30.00 after 12:30

info line 810-220-9883




Luv ya, talk to you later
Sam

i'll be at this party for sure.....just look for me. i'll let you know what 
i'll be wearing if you ask.

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September

I'll remember

A love once new has now grown old

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>September
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Hey all...

I'm gonna be picking Paul up at the airport...so if anyone else is flying in 
and needs a lift...let me know asap!  I work until 4pm on that Saturday...so 
I can only help ya out after 4:30pm...but the offer is there if you need it!

Luv you guyz.

*FUZZY HUGZ*

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You're all invited...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THE BASSMENT

Milwaukee's Premier Monthly Technoclub

Friday, September 17th 

2401 West Wisconsin [Side Entrance]
Milwaukee, Wisconsin


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Bassment is back at ya with a very special birthday bash for none
other than DJ Huggie. It will be a Global Energy evening as we are
bringing in his labelmate DJ Speedy. Don't miss what plans to be a magical
night.
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- DJ Huggie with Vector Tribe [Los Angeles, CA]
  (Global Energy Musik, Phatt Phunk, Funked Up Recordings)

The birthday boy will be returning to Milwaukee once again... this time
he's bringing his cadence drum squad Vector Tribe to play along with him.
This is Vector Tribe's first appearance with Huggie in Wisconsin... you
don't want to miss it.

- DJ Speedy [Las Vegas, NV]
  (Cactus Recordings, BML Thrust, Global Energy Musik)

Speedy is a personal favourite of ours and it was only natural that we
bring him out to play at Huggie's birthday bash. His headstrong
techno/trance get's crowds moving across the nation. Look out for his
new track 'Spiders Everywhere' that is currently charted by Carl Cox.

- Paul Matthew [Mke]
  (Amnesia Recordings)

Never before have we seen the response this DJ has received for a hometown
performance. This will be Paul's last performance at The Bassment for a
while as he concentrates on other projects.

- DJ Dan X [Mke]
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Dan has proven himself on the local club circuit to be a DJ that knows how
to program a set to perfection. Watch this guy... This is his year.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

All Ages

21+ W/ID to consume alcohol

414-344-BASS

2401 West Wisconsin Ave (Side Entrance)

Doors open 7:30pm - 2:30am

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Reply directly to this email for discounted admission





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You MUST be joking!!!

Paul Doyle wrote:

> WOO HOO!!!  I'm flyin' into deetroit for this pawtee
>
> hope to meet all of you cool detroit peepholes!
>
> PJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Merrill [mailto:kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:01 PM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [mw] detroits first trance party
>
> well kids here is the scoop, infinity is throwing the first all trance and
> progressive house party that has hit detroit.
>
> TRANCEFORMERS
> Sept 25,1999
>
> line up
>
> mars and mystre
> drc
> thomas michael
> jason blackmore
> wilhelm k
> cdx
> scotty v.
>
> $20.00 pre-sale
> $20.00 out of state w/ id----please buy your tickets online.
> www.tixtogo.com/go/infinity
> $25.00 @ the door
> $30.00 after 12:30
>
> info line 810-220-9883
>
> Luv ya, talk to you later
> Sam
>
> i'll be at this party for sure.....just look for me. i'll let you know what
> i'll be wearing if you ask.
>
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mmmm...nope, what do ya think I'd be joking about?  I got an invite to
detroit and to meet up with some cool people.  everyone I've chatted up off
of this list from detroit seem to be some pretty awesome people and I never
joke when it comes to people

mkay?

PJ


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You MUST be joking!!!

Paul Doyle wrote:

> WOO HOO!!!  I'm flyin' into deetroit for this pawtee
>
> hope to meet all of you cool detroit peepholes!
>
> PJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Merrill [mailto:kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:01 PM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [mw] detroits first trance party
>
> well kids here is the scoop, infinity is throwing the first all trance and
> progressive house party that has hit detroit.
>
> TRANCEFORMERS
> Sept 25,1999
>
> line up
>
> mars and mystre
> drc
> thomas michael
> jason blackmore
> wilhelm k
> cdx
> scotty v.
>
> $20.00 pre-sale
> $20.00 out of state w/ id----please buy your tickets online.
> www.tixtogo.com/go/infinity
> $25.00 @ the door
> $30.00 after 12:30
>
> info line 810-220-9883
>
> Luv ya, talk to you later
> Sam
>
> i'll be at this party for sure.....just look for me. i'll let you know
what
> i'll be wearing if you ask.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 20:56:29 1999
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I'm not much of a forward guy, but this one is an exception.  Please go
there

_______________________________________________________________________________
For everyone with a conscience:

This is a really neat web site. All you do is click
a button and somewhere in the world some hungry person gets a  meal to
eat at no cost to you. The food is paid for by corporate sponsors. All
you do is go to the site and click.  Visit the site and pass the word.

http://www.thehungersite.com

Sincerely,

JOHN R. GAGAIN JR.
Program Administrator
Model U.N. and Education

United Nations Association of the USA
801 Second Avenue
New York, NY 10017

Phone: 212.907.1300 ext.326            Fax: 212.682.9185
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IM NEVER QUITTING HAHA


>From: "Atreu ." <atreu3@hotmail.com>
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>
>>ps: only 2 cigarettes left in what is supposed to be my last pack.  ever.
>>*gets jittery at the thought*  somebody gimme some support!
>>and kids, don't get addicted to any chemicals now, habits like that are a
>>bitch to kick!
>
>
>hey... i smoked for almost ten years and i kicked it!!
>
>pssst....
>
>
>YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 21:16:13 1999
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I need to get in contact my brotha...


Hit me back...
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I think everyone is looking for him....
Matt email me! I forgot your address.
I have a  question

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 21:48:35 1999
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SoundStorm -  9.18.99   Cleveland Ohio

check out the website driving directions, info #'s, time slots & other info.
http://members.home.net/djgruve


goes like this...



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 21:51:49 1999
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SoundStorm - 9.18.99  Cleveland Ohio

check out our website http://members.home.net/djgruve  for driving
directions, time slots, info #'s and other info

goes somethin like this...

Soundstorm Room:

9:00-10:30           luis aguilera (aka-galaga)
10:30-12:00          C-4
12:00-1:00           Delta-9
1:00-2:15            Angel Alanis + Halo (TRunKids)
2:15-3:30            DJ Sy and MC STORM
3:30-5:00            Slacker
5:00-6:00            CZR



Thunder Room:

9:00-10:30           Special D & B dj (?????)
10:30-12:00          Tigger
12:00-1:00           Isaac "kickin' it" Curiel
1:00-2:30            DJ Lion
2:30-4:00            DJ JES
4:00-6:00            Josh Blink's Royal Rumble:
                     featuring Joshua Grant and friends

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 22:50:49 1999
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Just a reminder!

This Saturday in Indianapolis, Indiana is
PiLLOW TALK - Pt One of the Pajama Jama Jam!

Things to expect for the night!

The performers:

DJ LARS - SM:)E Communications - Germany
JAMES PENNINGTON - UR - Detroit
STEFAN MANCEAU - StarBaby - Paris, France
INCUBUS - Hotlanta/Orlando
DJ THREEJAY - UndaGround Elements - Chicago
    **dj seven will not be attending**
CHOCOLATE: The Freaky AfroNaut (tm) - Earth
K-STEP feat. nat'l recording artist MC SPI
CHARLES PAUL - Amanda's Treeyack - Indy

(all performers will be appearing in their PJs)

The Venue:

A virgin venue fully air-conditioned on the east side
of Indianapolis.  The Venue will include a chill area,
complete with mattresses, pillows, and bean-bags for
recuperation, as well as two VIP areas.

(as more and more legitimate venues are opening themselves
up to our scene, we do hope you will act respectful to the
employees of the conference center as well as the venue
itself.)

The Sound:

Log 2

Need we say more.



The Lights:

Log2 complimental Tommy Suttle from Lousiville's
Project 17!


The Visuals:

Live video mixing from accomplished Detroit VJ
CHANNEL 03!


The Security:

Firm but friendly, so you can expect to feel safe and
welcomed!

The Price:
$15 before midnight
$15 all nite w/ your PJs/sleeping attire
$20 after midnight q/o PJs.

For directions to the event, log on to
MW-RAVES on Saturday after 12PM (noon)
or call The House of Babylon Broductions
@ 317 592 9236 after 2PM on Saturday!


Hope to see everyone out in full force!

Come and dance and be a part of the eXperience!



Brandon Harris
CEO House of Babylon Broductions
Chocolate: The Freaky AfroNaut (tm)
317 592 9236
888 724 3178  (pg)
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***DON'T FORGET*********************************************
September 18th, 1999  ---> PiLLOW TALK
featuring DJ LARS, JAMES PENNINGTON, STEFAN MANCEAU and more
************************************************************
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How many times does someone come up to you with eyes- opened-wide, right infront of your face, and tell you a COME-TRUE fantasy that only god has been in.  If you build it they will come.  PICTURE:

a field of weed... you and five other friends.... stocked up on garbage bags...... and have all the time in the world to stuff as many as you want full.... and free will to do whatever you want with it afterwards.

and only two hours away.  This saturday is going to change my life forever.  I'll let you mw-raver ppl know how it goes.  If you read the paper and see an article about 6 kidds pulled over with possession 10 jumbo sized garbage bags full of marijuana.... that's me. 


Please officer, don't ask to look in the trunk.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 14 23:09:46 1999
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so, do you think Vestax will accept my left nut for a down payment?

--- ". craig/spree ." <xotis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >From: "Lowrey,  Dennis" <DLowrey@frk.com>
> >To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.org'"
> <sfraves@hyperreal.org>,
> >"'sacraves@hyperreal.org'" <sacraves@hyperreal.org>
> >CC: "'ynos77@hotmail.com'" <ynos77@hotmail.com>, 
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> ><riga420@aol.com>, "Pelletier, Joseph"
> <JPellet@frk.com>
> >Subject: FW: FYI
> >Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:56:37 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Start saving your pennies guys!
> >
> >
> >From the Ministry Of Sound Website
> >
> >DJ equipment manufacturers Vestax caused shockwaves
> at this week?s Plaza
> >sound equipment trade fair when they revealed a
> prototype model
> >of their new home vinyl-cutting lathe. Due for
> release next spring, the
> >Vestax machine is the first new vinyl cutter to be
> released for over twenty
> >years and could have a huge impact on the 12? dance
> market. The lathe works
> >in exactly the same way as a lathe in a
> professional cutting house, using a
> >diamond cutter to scratch grooves into the vinyl.
> At a predicted £4000, the
> >DiY vinyl-maker doesn?t come cheap, but there will
> no doubt be plenty of
> >people prepared to pay for the privilege of cutting
> their own dub-plates 
> >and
> >
> >acetates. At present there are only a handful of
> cutting houses offering
> >such facilities or indeed cutting vinyl at all, but
> the Vestax cutter 
> >should
> >
> >provide a welcome shot in the arm for the vinyl
> market, as well as taking
> >the bedroom production revolution to its logical
> >conclusion. What with CDRs, MP3 and now DiY vinyl,
> it seems to be getting
> >easier than  ever for bedroom producers to get
> their music out there, all 
> >of
> >
> >which leaves us asking ?
> >why the hell didn?t someone think of this before??
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here's so more info for those who care

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:35:32 EDT
To: mtn-raves@hyperreal.org

Check it out DJ's...;)

>>>..For all the DJ's out there -

- Vestax have developed their own vinyl compound to cut on to.
- Each disc can store 25 mins per side of near pro vinyl quality
- Cutting head will need to be changed approx. every 20 cuts
- Vinyl will be available from Vestax at around =A325 for 3 discs

This bit is good...
- Life time of vinyl close to that of pressed records, longer than acetate
wohoo - no more skipping after a few plays !

there is a pic at http://www.sapphires.co.uk/plasa99.htm

It costs around 4000, which is not cheap of course, but think about it...

25 mins per side for 8-ish quid - it's currently 35 quid for a 10" plate
that can hold 8 mins per side, so you're getting 3 times as much music for
less than a quarter of the price !

If you have a big crew that plays out a lot then clubbing together for one
of these will be a lot cheaper than cutting 'standard' acetates all the
time - assuming the sound quality is good and the replacable cutting head
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i know. its so hard..i just did it, but i wasnt smoking for 10 years. i was 
smoking for 5 years. what happens is you go through stages....first is 
complete faith. then a minute after your last cigarette you start thinking 
about one more pack. then you have another cigarette. then you stop for a 
while, and bum off people once in a while. then you pretend you dont smoke 
when you really do, like after you eat. then you finaly quit. its a complex 
process. but now i think i finally quit. and im no longer an awful bitch!

maybe.
val
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we pretend to be.
kv.

>From: "Atreu ." <atreu3@hotmail.com>
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>To: dpayer@umich.edu, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:44:03 EDT
>
>>ps: only 2 cigarettes left in what is supposed to be my last pack.  ever.
>>*gets jittery at the thought*  somebody gimme some support!
>>and kids, don't get addicted to any chemicals now, habits like that are a
>>bitch to kick!
>
>
>hey... i smoked for almost ten years and i kicked it!!
>
>pssst....
>
>
>YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!
>
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>and the ever so top 40 pizzaman.  most of these song were written in what 
>is
>now known as the "big beat' formula.

pizzaman and mighty dub katz tracks have little to NONE to do with big beat. 
  pull your head out of your ass... just cuz it's "Top 20" doesn't mean it's 
talentless.


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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:20:40 -0500 (CDT), powdered toastman wrote:

>here's so more info for those who care
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:35:32 EDT
>To: mtn-raves@hyperreal.org
>
>Check it out DJ's...;)
>
>>>>..For all the DJ's out there -
>
>- Vestax have developed their own vinyl compound to cut on to.
>- Each disc can store 25 mins per side of near pro vinyl quality
>- Cutting head will need to be changed approx. every 20 cuts
>- Vinyl will be available from Vestax at around =A325 for 3 discs
>
>This bit is good...
>- Life time of vinyl close to that of pressed records, longer than acet=
ate
>wohoo - no more skipping after a few plays !
>
>there is a pic at http://www.sapphires.co.uk/plasa99.htm
>
>It costs around 4000, which is not cheap of course, but think about it.=
..
>
>25 mins per side for 8-ish quid - it's currently 35 quid for a 10" plat=
e
>that can hold 8 mins per side, so you're getting 3 times as much music =
for
>less than a quarter of the price !
>
>If you have a big crew that plays out a lot then clubbing together for =
one
>of these will be a lot cheaper than cutting 'standard' acetates all the=

>time - assuming the sound quality is good and the replacable cutting he=
ad
>ain't too expensive...
>
>


Or you can buy a $450 CD deck, a $500 computer, a $200 CD burner,
and 75 min. discs for $1 each.  Do the math and tell me which is better.=


	Joe

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> > >> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
>  
>  Hey there judgemental, you've never seen norman cook spin have you?


all the live recordings / TV footage i've heard/seen of him spinning... are 
dope!  to put it old-skool-ly, he rocks the party.    check this out, if you 
want..

http://www.astralwerks.com/ram/fbs_newyear.ram

i love it.. and i'm not a big fan of FBS.. seriously.  he makes me mad.. but 
we're talking about his DJing skills here, aren't we?


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> ugh!!  somebody kick me before i kick myself for going to

*kick*

>  sniper  (snipuh!!)

dublate
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-ppppppprrrressssuuuureeee


>  excuse me while i go change my panties, i'm feeling a little moist.

<joey voice on>   woah!   </joey voice off>


>  BUT it's the same night as soundstorm in cleveland, which i've been
>  planning on going to for MONTHS.  what's a girl to do?!?!  now i could
>  just drive the 4 hrs to toronto to see those jungle people any weekend,
>  but they're coming to ME, and i won't be there?!?  :/
>  where should i get my rave on????

who's going to be at Soundstorm?

*i'd* go to the detroit party, but then again, i don't have a car and... i 
love.. love... *love* jungle.  hmm.


-charlie / angelboi-

oh, and go Doris...   woo!!!  wait, i mean, go doris [non woo]... woohoo! 

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i will be at tranceformers also with friends...  
-sarah

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, doris wrote:

> > 
> > I'll be there and so will a bunch of my friends.  Look forward to meeting 
> > you!  :)
> > 
> 
> hush, derek.
> i'll be there too.  wooo!!
> so who else is coming ravin' w/ us?
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hi.......................................(time passes)...............
.....................................................................
........Ok...i'm done.


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count me in.
-sarah

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Mike @ Full Spectrum wrote:

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> >
> > I'll be there and so will a bunch of my friends.  Look forward to
meeting
> > you!  :)
> >
>
> hush, derek.
> i'll be there too.  wooo!!
> so who else is coming ravin' w/ us?
>

i will.  i've been waiting to see thomas michael again for a long time.  i
hope he lives up to the first time i saw him :)

acidiz

p.s.  i hope i don't piss anyone off by saying this, but HOW does wilhelm k
still get booked around the midwest?  he has got to be the scene's most
hated man in this region of the country.  its not like he's that great of a
dj either.  sheesh.




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friday, september 24th    New Beginning Productions presents..

+Made In Detroit+

..Punisher..             (Seismic/Reload records)
..Darryl Steele..   
..Magda                  (Women
vs. Minx..                 on Wax)
..jeff woodward..      (Detroit Housing Commission)
..angelboi..             (Consoul Detroit)

+special guests!

more info:
(810).856.2070

hope to see you all there!

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i'll be there as well.  i'll be the girl putting the full spectrum booth
to shame.  w00ha.  

On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 arthursc@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:

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can't diss like that doris.  meanbean

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>
>i'll be there as well.  i'll be the girl putting the full spectrum booth
>to shame.  w00ha.  
>
>On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 arthursc@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:
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>> 
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that's funny cuz i was wondering the same thing about thomas michael! ahhahaha.

let us know if he played the same set that he played last time you saw him!
hehehhee.
-talking shit :)

acidiz wrote:

> > >
> > > I'll be there and so will a bunch of my friends.  Look forward to
> meeting
> > > you!  :)
> > >
> >
> > hush, derek.
> > i'll be there too.  wooo!!
> > so who else is coming ravin' w/ us?
> >
>
> i will.  i've been waiting to see thomas michael again for a long time.  i
> hope he lives up to the first time i saw him :)
>
> acidiz
>
> p.s.  i hope i don't piss anyone off by saying this, but HOW does wilhelm k
> still get booked around the midwest?  he has got to be the scene's most
> hated man in this region of the country.  its not like he's that great of a
> dj either.  sheesh.
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and the fbs thread makes its way to the mid west.....

sorry-  it was on the txraves list when i first subbed there.  it was
mostly about whether his muzic was any good and whether or not he has
sold out.  so there is some thoughts to kick around

and on a lighter note is anyone going to abduction this fri?

peace-

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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> Or you can buy a $450 CD deck, a $500 computer, a $200 CD burner,
> and 75 min. discs for $1 each.  Do the math and tell me which is better.

depends.  if you want to hear your stuff played out on the dancefloor,
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>friday, september 24th    New Beginning Productions presents..
>
>+Made In Detroit+
>
>..Punisher..             (Seismic/Reload records)

I saw punisher play live in toronto a few weeks ago, and I was really
impressed.  I hear she spins techno but I don't really know much about
that.  Anyway her live PA is drum & bass... sorta.  Really bleepy electroey
jungle though.  Almost reminiscent of like autechre or something...
anyway, if she's doing a PA, she's highly reccomended.  I really can't
speak for her skills as a dj though.  anyone?

chris

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ya, we had her for our last party in indy, her dj skills aren't that hot and
her live pa was really really really boring when i seen her in cleveland
last year.

mike

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>>friday, september 24th    New Beginning Productions presents..
>>
>>+Made In Detroit+
>>
>>..Punisher..             (Seismic/Reload records)
>
>I saw punisher play live in toronto a few weeks ago, and I was really
>impressed.  I hear she spins techno but I don't really know much about
>that.  Anyway her live PA is drum & bass... sorta.  Really bleepy electroey
>jungle though.  Almost reminiscent of like autechre or something...
>anyway, if she's doing a PA, she's highly reccomended.  I really can't
>speak for her skills as a dj though.  anyone?
>
>chris
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>>well kids here is the scoop, infinity is throwing the first all trance and
>>progressive house party that has hit detroit.
>>

uh-oh!  don't tell me the virus is spreading!!!

AAAGH!


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>Or you can buy a $450 CD deck, a $500 computer, a $200 CD burner,
>and 75 min. discs for $1 each.  Do the math and tell me which is better.



Joe.... If ll this afformentioned equipment was FREE...Id still want the
Vinyl!!!!


call me crazy... I mean, Ive got all that shit, besides the CD deck (and
mind you, I *DO* love playing on CD's)......  But, theres just something
about Vinyl that gets my pancreas HOT!!!!


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All right, does anyone know who is throwing this party?

>Sat Sept. 25 . Eau Claire, WI . STARLIGHT
>
>DJ Hurricane (formerly of the Beastie Boys, TVT Records, No sleep
>productions/ Atlanta)
>DJ Ani (formerly of Dee-lite, Zoo York/ New York)
>DJ Robert Armani (Dancemania/ Chicago)
>E.S.P. Woody McBride (Communique Records/ Minneapolis)
>Mindrive (Erotishock/ Madison)
>Dieselboy(611 records/Teck-Itch/UK)
>DJ Ack (Sheldiack, Drunken Masters/Oshkosh)
>Jaypee (Drunken Masters/Menomonie)
>Alfredo and Jiz the Goods (OHB, Minneapolis)
>Elliot and DLO (Milkclub Productions/Milwaukee)
>
>Pre-sale tickets - $20 At the door $26/ 25 with a canned food item.
>Pre-sale tickets will be available at CYNESTHASIA/ 612 824-7126
>Call Clone voice-mail for other pre-sale locations and directions to the
venue.
>
>Distance to Eau Claire, WI:
>Minneapolis = 1.5 hours
>Madison = 2.5 hours
>La Crosse = 1.5 hour
>Milwaukee = 3.5 hours
>Chicago = 4.5 hours
>Green Bay = 2 .5 hours
>Duluth = 3.5 hours
>Sound by Slamhammer
>Lights by Clone Fusion
>Visuals by Network 10 multimedia
>Information lines: Clone - 651-649-4585, Network 10 - 414-256-1350
>
>
>
>jaypee
>Drunken Masters
>Dj's and Audio Annihilationists
>ICQ:  2147740
>
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Here's the lineup schedule for Abduction 00:05 taking place in Lexingotn KY 
September 17th, 1999:

10p-11p	Tig
11p-1230a	Trevor Lamont
1230a-2a	Bob-A-Dob
2a-4a 		Terrance Parker
4a-7a		Dyan Drazen

As always, the dj's are on the floor to provide a more intimate atmosphere. 
And we ALWAYAsprovide free water and candy for da masses.
Please leave all guns, drugs and attitudes at home.


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he has been returned home....so stop the search...
im not naming any names, but a certain Indiana University student with the 
initials L.G. returned him to me while in Wisconsin this past weekend for 
WTW...
thanx for all your help and concern...
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, chris ege wrote:

+>..Punisher..             (Seismic/Reload records)
+
+I saw punisher play live in toronto a few weeks ago, and I was really
+impressed.  I hear she spins techno but I don't really know much about
+that.

punisher's a she?  what an evil bitch.  

+anyway, if she's doing a PA, she's highly reccomended.  I really can't
+speak for her skills as a dj though.  anyone?

i purchased "Mmmm" on Seismic whilst in madison last weekend along with
some other nice records.
needless to say, it's the coolest thing i've ever heard (nowadays, i only
buy the coolest things i ever hear).  i bet she could pull off being a
good dj. i should check it oot.

by the way, i ran accross DBX ACC-100 ya know, the one with phreak on it.
is this re-released?  i was looking for it forever, and all of a sudden
when i had long since given up, i just chanced upon it.
i'm happy about that one.

oh, i also mentioned stewart walker's live pa at http://www.betalounge.com
shortly before furthur.  if you haven't listened to it yet, i strongly
suggest you do.... you can also listen to other allright dj's while you're
there.  10 sponholz points if you can tell me my favorite part of
stewart's set.

might as well listen to Sho while you're there, too.  he's ok.

while i'm at it:
gang starr/hard to earn - everyone needs to be put in their place.
digable planets/blowout comb - ladybug will be mine, oh yes, she will be
mine.
pink floyd/dark side of the moon - well, duh.
anything sung by ella fitzgerald
ward willits house
sid meier
thomas jefferson
jefferson airplane
bill watterson
mr. rogers

...and i think there were others.

chad
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Tracy J. Koogler wrote:

+All right, does anyone know who is throwing this party?
+>Information lines: Clone - 651-649-4585, Network 10 - 414-256-1350

looks like Clone and/or Net10.

yay. dj Hurricane.

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what? did someone say trainwreck hurricane?

or did someone say "can't match a beat outside his former beastie boys
studio" hurricane?

sometimes sounds like "can't hold his liquor" hurricane...the man sucks

not sure, i have wax in my ears...


> yay. dj Hurricane.



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(rave-type music related)

so i'm wandering aimlessly through my work as always, when i happen across
the soundtrack for PI laying on a co-worker's desk. i excitedly snatch it up
and head back to my desk to play it, open the case, and it contains nothing
more than a copy of GnR's Appetite For Destruction

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>All right, does anyone know who is throwing this party?
>
> >Sat Sept. 25 . Eau Claire, WI . STARLIGHT

i'm pretty sure it's Network 10.


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what a great surprise. appetite for destruction is GnR's best album ever. it
rules! fuck yeah -> metal!!!
that Pi soundtrack has nothin but that weird tekno crap on it anyway. that
shit ain't even real music.

stealing from co-workers, eh? punished with late 80's metal? karma's a
bitch. ;-)

> so i'm wandering aimlessly through my work as always, when i happen across
> the soundtrack for PI laying on a co-worker's desk. i excitedly snatch it
up
> and head back to my desk to play it, open the case, and it contains
nothing
> more than a copy of GnR's Appetite For Destruction
>
> they will all die.


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I don't care what any of you says, if someone offered you millions to do what
you loved doing, you would do it in a heartbeat.  If you wouldn't, you are a
fool.  Fat Boy is doing what he loves, and getting paid to do it.  Why is going
mainstream such a bad thing?  Doesn't the general public have the same right to
good music as we do (it's not their fault that they aren't as cool as us and
have known about this stuff for years).  So lets spread the vibe and diversify
the scene a little.
Peaz,
Stumpman
(sorry if I am a lil mean for the next few weeks, I havn't had a smoke in 3
days)

DJangelboi@aol.com wrote:

> > > >> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
> >
> >  Hey there judgemental, you've never seen norman cook spin have you?
>
> all the live recordings / TV footage i've heard/seen of him spinning... are
> dope!  to put it old-skool-ly, he rocks the party.    check this out, if you
> want..
>
> http://www.astralwerks.com/ram/fbs_newyear.ram
>
> i love it.. and i'm not a big fan of FBS.. seriously.  he makes me mad.. but
> we're talking about his DJing skills here, aren't we?
>
> -charlie / angelboi-
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stealing? never...borrowing unbeknownst to them? maybe ;)

> stealing from co-workers, eh? punished with late 80's metal? karma's a
> bitch. ;-)

eh, not lately...i had her spayed...




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WTW people, read on...

      The FDA is considering additional warnings
      on beer and alcohol containers. Some of the
      suggestions are as follows:
 
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
      make you think you are whispering when you
      are not.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol is a
      major factor in dancing like an asshole.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
      cause you to tell the same boring story over
      and over again until your friends want to
      SMASH YOUR HEAD IN.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
      lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really
      dying for you to telephone them at 4:00 AM.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
      leave you wondering what the hell happened
      to your pants.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol
      may cause you to roll over in the morning
      and see something really scary (whose
      species and/or name you can't remember).
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol is
      the leading cause of inexplicable rug burns
      on the forehead and knees.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol
      may create the illusion that you are tougher,
      handsomer and smarter than some really,
      really big guy named Chuck.
      *****************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol
      may lead you to think people are laughing
      with you.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
      cause an influx in the time-space continuum,
      whereby small (and sometimes large) gaps of
      time may seem to disappear.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
      actually cause pregnancy.
      ******************************************
      WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may deaden
      the nerves and cause self mutilation with folding metal
      chairs and steel oil drums and the ingestion of your own
      piss.


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I saw him in Cincy once and not only was the man bad but he had
a nerve to take his shirt off.  His tits were bigger than the
girl I was with.   

O the humanity.............

|--- Original Message ---
|From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
|To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
|Date: 9/15/99 2:24:00 PM
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|what? did someone say trainwreck hurricane?
|
|or did someone say "can't match a beat outside his former beastie
boys
|studio" hurricane?
|
|sometimes sounds like "can't hold his liquor" hurricane...the
man sucks
|
|not sure, i have wax in my ears...
|
|
|> yay. dj Hurricane.
|
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Ah man, we're not gonna start on the mainstream/underground thing again
are we?
All it does is generate 400 emails a minute, with everyone saying the same
things in 400 different ways.  All ending up in the fact that some people
don't want mainstream people 'invading' the scene, and others do.

I survived and added greatly to one wave of this, I feel sorry for the
tons of mwravers that have been through several waves.
=)

K

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:

> I don't care what any of you says, if someone offered you millions to do what
> you loved doing, you would do it in a heartbeat.  If you wouldn't, you are a
> fool.  Fat Boy is doing what he loves, and getting paid to do it.  Why is going
> mainstream such a bad thing?  Doesn't the general public have the same right to
> good music as we do (it's not their fault that they aren't as cool as us and
> have known about this stuff for years).  So lets spread the vibe and diversify
> the scene a little.
> Peaz,
> Stumpman
> (sorry if I am a lil mean for the next few weeks, I havn't had a smoke in 3
> days)
> 
> DJangelboi@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > > > >> fat boy slim (the man cant spin records)
> > >
> > >  Hey there judgemental, you've never seen norman cook spin have you?
> >
> > all the live recordings / TV footage i've heard/seen of him spinning... are
> > dope!  to put it old-skool-ly, he rocks the party.    check this out, if you
> > want..
> >
> > http://www.astralwerks.com/ram/fbs_newyear.ram
> >
> > i love it.. and i'm not a big fan of FBS.. seriously.  he makes me mad.. but
> > we're talking about his DJing skills here, aren't we?
> >
> > -charlie / angelboi-
> >
> > -
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"Trevor Lamont" <tlamont@gte.net> said:

>I saw him in Cincy once and not only was the man bad but he had
>a nerve to take his shirt off.  His tits were bigger than the
>girl I was with.


Holy shit.  That's amazing.  I can't wait to see it for myself.  I'll be
piss drunk, grabbing at his tits, telling him that I love him.  Who has a
camcorder?



"You must always be intoxicated. It is the key to all: the one question. In
order not to feel the horrible burden of Time breaking your back and
bending you toward the earth, you must become drunk, without truce.  But on
what? On wine, poetry, or virtue, as you wish. But you must become drunk."

						-Baudelaire

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 15:45:37 1999
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR . . . but kinda: WARNING : do not read while drinking root beer
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i read this while drinking root beer, and the results were messy.  my pants 
are wet now...

derik

>
>WTW people, read on...
>
>       The FDA is considering additional warnings
>       on beer and alcohol containers. Some of the
>       suggestions are as follows:
>
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
>       make you think you are whispering when you
>       are not.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol is a
>       major factor in dancing like an asshole.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
>       cause you to tell the same boring story over
>       and over again until your friends want to
>       SMASH YOUR HEAD IN.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
>       lead you to believe that ex-lovers are really
>       dying for you to telephone them at 4:00 AM.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
>       leave you wondering what the hell happened
>       to your pants.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol
>       may cause you to roll over in the morning
>       and see something really scary (whose
>       species and/or name you can't remember).
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol is
>       the leading cause of inexplicable rug burns
>       on the forehead and knees.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol
>       may create the illusion that you are tougher,
>       handsomer and smarter than some really,
>       really big guy named Chuck.
>       *****************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol
>       may lead you to think people are laughing
>       with you.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
>       cause an influx in the time-space continuum,
>       whereby small (and sometimes large) gaps of
>       time may seem to disappear.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may
>       actually cause pregnancy.
>       ******************************************
>       WARNING, the consumption of alcohol may deaden
>       the nerves and cause self mutilation with folding metal
>       chairs and steel oil drums and the ingestion of your own
>       piss.
>
>
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Hey you guys--keep this going!
-Andrea

>One woman was beaten to DEATH by an angry mob of fundamentalists for
>accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving.
>The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women. The situation
>is
>getting so bad that one person in an editorial of
>the Times compared the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews
>in
>pre-Holocaust Poland.
>Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and
>have
>been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper
>attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front
>of
>their eyes. Another was stoned to death for trying to leave the country
>with
>a man that
>was not a relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go out in
>public
>without a male relative. Professional women such as professors,
>translators,
>doctors, lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs
>and
>stuffed into their homes, so that depression is becoming so widespread
>that
>it has reached emergency levels.
>There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide
>rate
>with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate
>among women, who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe
>depression and would rather take their lives than live in such
>conditions,
>has increased dramatically. Homes where a woman is present must have
>their
>windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must
>wear
>silent shoes so that they are never heard.
>Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior. Because
>
>they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either
>starving to death or begging on the street, even if they hold a Ph.D.
>There
>are almost no medical facilities available for women, and relief
>workers,
>in
>protest, have mostly left the country, taking medicine and psychologists
>
>and
>other things necessary to treat the sky-rocketing level of depression
>among
>women.
> >At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly
>lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their
>burqua,
>unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Others
>
>have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or
>crying, most of them in fear. One doctor is considering, when what
>little
>medication that is left finally runs out, leaving these women in front
>of
>the president's residence as a form of peaceful protest.
>It is at the point where the term 'human rights violations' has become
>an
>understatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their
>women
>relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much
>right
>to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh
>or
>offending them in the slightest way. David Cornwell has said that those
>in
>the West should not judge the Afghan people for such treatment because
>it
>is
>a 'cultural thing', but this is not even true.
>Women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress generally as they wanted,
>
>and
>drive and appear in public alone until only 1996 -- the rapidity of this
>
>transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide.
>Women who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human
>freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as sub-human in the
>name
>of
>fundamentalist Islam. It is not their tradition or 'culture', but is
>alien
>to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where fundamentalism
>is
>the rule.
>Besides, if we could excuse everything on cultural grounds, then we
>should
>not be appalled that the Carthaginians sacrificed their infant children,
>
>that little girls are circumcised in parts of Africa, that blacks in the
>US
>deep south in the 1930-60s were lynched, prohibited from voting, and
>forced
>to submit to unjust Jim Crow laws.
>Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are
>women
>in a Muslim country in a part of the world that Westerners may not
>understand.
>If life can threaten military force in Kosovo in the name of human
>rights
>for the sake of ethnic Albanians, then NATO and the West can certainly
>express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice
>committed
>against women by the Taliban.
>STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women
>in
>Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves support and action
>by
>the people of the United Nations and that the current situation in
>Afghanistan will not be tolerated. Women's Rights is not a small issue
>anywhere and it is UNACCEPTABLE for women in 1999 to be treated as
>sub-human
>and so much as property. Equality and human decency is a RIGHT not a
>freedom, whether one lives in Afghanistan or anywhere else.
> > >
> > >1) Rainer Ostermayer, Karlsruhe, Germany
> > >2) Eleonora Ostermayer, Karlsruhe, Germany
> > >3) Gabriele Blodau, Karlsruhe, Germany
> > >4) Irene Pieper-Seier, Oldenburg, Germany
> > >5) Christine Scharlach, Berlin, Germany
> > >6) Susanne Hannappel, Berlin, Germany
> > >7) Thomas Murphy, Berlin, Germany
> > >8) Jacqueline Harrington, Dublin, Ireland
> > >9) Caroline Regan, Sligo, Ireland
> > >10) Joanne Regan, Limerick, Ireland
> > >11) Paula Carroll, Limerick, Ireland
> > >12) Patricia Ocarroll, Brighton, MA, USA
> > >13) Erin Walker, Saugus, MA, USA
> > >14) Jennifer Kosmas, Saugus, MA, USA
> > >15) Joanne Sullivan, Lynn, MA, USA
> > >16) Jennifer Zenga, Vandenberg AFB, CA, USA
> > >17) Cynthia Easler, Colorado Springs, CO, USA
> > >18) Robin Everett, Annandale, VA, USA
> > >19) Susan Abbott, Boston MA, USA
> > >20) Maria Laura Acebal, Washington, DC, USA
> > >21) Andrea J. Weiss, Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > >22) Ed Kimble, Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > >23) Laura Williamson, Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > >24) Ericka Edgar, Los Angeles, CA, USA
> > >25) Patricia Chen, Los Angeles, CA USA
> > >26) Laryna Rodriguez, San Diego, CA USA
> > >27) Candie Chang, Diamond Bar, CA USA
> > >28) Mary Tam, San Diego, CA USA
> > >29) Jan Marovic, San Diego, CA USA
> > >30) Anastasia Kunac, San Diego, CA USA
> > >31) Christina Zuber, San Diego, CA USA
> > >32) Karen Greenmeier, Chicago, IL USA
>       33)Aaron D. Lipski,Milwaukee, WI USA
> >   34) Beth Schenk, Milwaukee, WI USA
>35)  Sally Haldorson, Milwaukee, WI  USA
>36) Matt Kotar, Milwaukee, WI USA
>
>
>
> > >>Please copy and paste this message into a new e:mail message, sign
>to
>support, AND include your city or town,state, and country. Then e-mail
>to
>as
>many people as possible.
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Hi everyone :-)

Does anyone know of any software based synthesizer's for either mac or 
DOS/Windows? Basically something that can generate sounds :-) Please let me 
know, thank you! :-)

-Craig/Spree
http://members.xoom.com/djspree
http://www.kickinbeats.com

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>Hi everyone :-)
>
>Does anyone know of any software based synthesizer's for either mac or
>DOS/Windows? Basically something that can generate sounds :-) Please let me
>know, thank you! :-)
>
>-Craig/Spree
>http://members.xoom.com/djspree
>http://www.kickinbeats.com



and on the same note... let me know too!


tres
... is still waiting for someone to give him a 909... come on,
    where you at?!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 16:16:27 1999
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They have a simulated 303, 505, 808, and 909 on the web somewhere to download.
Just do a search for it on yahoo.  I think u get like a 30 day free trial then u
are supposed to pay for it (or just go get it again under a different e-mail
address).  Hope this helps.
-Stumpy

"Atreu ." wrote:

> >Hi everyone :-)
> >
> >Does anyone know of any software based synthesizer's for either mac or
> >DOS/Windows? Basically something that can generate sounds :-) Please let me
> >know, thank you! :-)
> >
> >-Craig/Spree
> >http://members.xoom.com/djspree
> >http://www.kickinbeats.com
>
> and on the same note... let me know too!
>
> tres
> ... is still waiting for someone to give him a 909... come on,
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hey!!!
whats so wrong with a  little guns n roses to brighten ones day???
i think the better deal would most definitely be GnR. frankly, i wish i had 
that album...it IS the best one.
that would have made my day!
val



>so i'm wandering aimlessly through my work as always, when i happen across
>the soundtrack for PI laying on a co-worker's desk. i excitedly snatch it 
>up
>and head back to my desk to play it, open the case, and it contains nothing
>more than a copy of GnR's Appetite For Destruction
>
>they will all die.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 16:25:07 1999
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This is what I'm looking for :-)

-Craig

>But if you want to make analog sounds you'll need some kind of software
>based mondular synth....

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 16:26:33 1999
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same here... i already have rebirth and it just doesn't do it for me.

tres


>This is what I'm looking for :-)
>
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>>But if you want to make analog sounds you'll need some kind of software
>>based mondular synth....

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<evil pictures of axl gyrating on stage replay themselves in my mind as i am
forced to wonder once again what the fork i was thinking when i demanded an
"appetite for destruction" t-shirt for christmas at the tender age of 13>


now had it been SKYNARD that i found, everything would have been fine...



> hey!!!
> whats so wrong with a  little guns n roses to brighten ones day???
> i think the better deal would most definitely be GnR. frankly, i wish i
had
> that album...it IS the best one.
> that would have made my day!
> val



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ok..this post wins the "they're coming to take me away ha-ha" award (tm) for 
being a bit off the wall...we at the dj funk is dead award (Tm) committee 
reaaally hope this is a joke..

otherwise, well, hopefully the DEA will show mercy...:)


>>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:51:48 -0500
From: "Stephie Wefie" <e-trinity@gurlmail.com>
Subject: [mw] field of dreams (think:weed)

How many times does someone come up to you with eyes- opened-wide, right
infront of your face, and tell you a COME-TRUE fantasy that only god has
been in.  If you build it they will come.  P
ICTURE:
a field of weed... you and five other friends.... stocked up on garbage
bags...... and have all the time in the world to stuff as many as you
want full.... and free will to do whatever you want with it afterwards.
and only two hours away.  This saturday is going to change my life
forever.  I'll let you mw-raver ppl know how it goes.  If you read the
paper and see an article about 6 kidds pulled over with possession 10
jumbo sized garbage bags full of marijuana.... that's me.
Please officer, don't ask to look in the trunk.>>

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either that or hopefully the owner is too stoned to aim straight with his
shotgun

> ok..this post wins the "they're coming to take me away ha-ha" award (tm)
for
> being a bit off the wall...we at the dj funk is dead award (Tm) committee
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Dear Stephie Wefie:

	This is the FBI.  Thanks for the tip.  We'll see you Saturday.


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on top of it all i keep wondering if they've figured out that if they ditch
4 of the people, there's so much more room...



> ok..this post wins the "they're coming to take me away ha-ha" award (tm)
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I would try Rebirth 2.02 made by the Propellerheads

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> They have a simulated 303, 505, 808, and 909 on the web somewhere to
download.
> Just do a search for it on yahoo.  I think u get like a 30 day free trial
then u
> are supposed to pay for it (or just go get it again under a different
e-mail
> address).  Hope this helps.
> -Stumpy
>
> "Atreu ." wrote:
>
> > >Hi everyone :-)
> > >
> > >Does anyone know of any software based synthesizer's for either mac or
> > >DOS/Windows? Basically something that can generate sounds :-) Please
let me
> > >know, thank you! :-)
> > >
> > >-Craig/Spree
> > >http://members.xoom.com/djspree
> > >http://www.kickinbeats.com
> >
> > and on the same note... let me know too!
> >
> > tres
> > ... is still waiting for someone to give him a 909... come on,
> >     where you at?!
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You know we love to keep you guys informed of who's on
when...

Main Room
11- Devastating Dennis (Chicago, House)
12- Stan Doublin and Matt Bodaleg (STL, House)
1- DJ Champ (SF, House)
2:30 Traxx (Chicago, House)
4- Miss Hollie (Madison, Trance)
5- Mary Jane (Madison, Trance)

Second Room-
11- Double X (STL, Techno)
12- Matt Ryan (STL, Techno)
1- John Gotti (STL, Jungle)
2- DJ Tsar (Evansville, Trance)
3- Hypo (STL, Techno)
4- Matt Bandy (Louisville, House)
5- DJ True (KC, House)

There will be signs posted at the venue too, but
thought you might want to plan on coming early so you
don't miss Dennis and Mike (DoubleX).

We'll post directions on Saturday...



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ok, i have this one called TB2000, it's inspired by the 303, it's a
shareware program, and you can make some fucked up noises with it.  the
reg fee is $20, not bad.  go here:
 http://www.demonweb.co.uk/c3sys/index1.htm
they have like 3 soft synth programs on there, there is timbre wolf, and
some other one that is a virtual polysynth.  all of them are $20.  you
can't record any noises until you pay the $20 (unless you can crack the
program.  they are all for windows.
for other windows synth programs go here and poke around:
 http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Windows/software_synthesizers.html

for mac synth shit go here:
 http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac/software_synthesizers.html
hope this helps!
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I'll be at Transformers too!  Not like you guys know me or anything, but 
I'll be there!

;-)
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>hush, derek.
>i'll be there too.  wooo!!
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so there are some new pictures up...for some reason, "spot the s00zi" will
have to be delayed until i figure out why my feeblebrained co-worker didn't
scan the picture when it was included in the pile marked "scan these or die"

the pictures are at www.bluegrass.net/~pixie

the following pics are new

arch.jpg
archlean 1 & 2 .jpg (note: amanda told me everything would look surreal if i
did this...it didn't, but the angle made the aforementioned arch.jpg turn
out really neat)
antonio.jpg
stumpman.jpg
prettykitty.jpg (an actual honest to goodness picture of me, kitty included)
superspree.jpg (spree at ripple effect)

sorry, but at the moment i have absolutely no interest in sorting my
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>>> digable planets/blowout comb - ladybug will be mine, oh yes, she will be
mine.

whatever happened to Ladybug of the Dig Planets???  her voice was the 
smoothest.  my mom even dug her style!  if anyones knows...then help me solve 
the mystery : )
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 06:00:33 -0400, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:
>
>>Or you can buy a $450 CD deck, a $500 computer, a $200 CD burner,
>>and 75 min. discs for $1 each.  Do the math and tell me which is better.
>
>Joe.... If ll this afformentioned equipment was FREE...Id still want the
>Vinyl!!!!
>
>call me crazy... I mean, Ive got all that shit, besides the CD deck (and
>mind you, I *DO* love playing on CD's)......  But, theres just something
>about Vinyl that gets my pancreas HOT!!!!
>
>

Well, the concept is cool...

"Hey look at this record.  I made it."
"No, I mean I MADE THE RECORD ITSELF."  =) hehehe.

But over all, it's impractical.

Hey, while were at it, let's go back dirt paved roads.

	Joe

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> Well, the concept is cool...
>
> "Hey look at this record.  I made it."
> "No, I mean I MADE THE RECORD ITSELF."  =) hehehe.
>
> But over all, it's impractical.

perhaps...but being a vinyl junkie is probably impractical in itself...hell,
i'm an overall impractical person...practical doesn't make perfect ;) and
yes, i'm a LONG way from perfect...

> Hey, while were at it, let's go back dirt paved roads.

well, if we did that, they could probaby do a hell of a lot better job
paving them this time around....on top of that, maybe they'd leave route 66
alone this time and not engulf it with 55, 44, and 40...making finding route
66 nearly impossible now, let alone trying to DRIVE on it...but we'll find
out over New Year's and report back...ok now that I've stepped WAY off
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> 
> "Hey look at this record.  I made it."
> "No, I mean I MADE THE RECORD ITSELF."  =) hehehe.
> 
> But over all, it's impractical.
> 
> Hey, while were at it, let's go back dirt paved roads.
> 

Hell w/ that dood!  Just imagine being able to press those tracks that you
have on CD, and have NEVER EVER SEEN on vinyl.... stuff from like 92, 93,
that simply isn't pressed any more, and the prod. companies are gone
anyway!

Ohhh... sigh... old skool purrrdrdrrdrrrr


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> But over all, it's impractical.

oh, and I suppose your gonna tell me that churning my own butter and driving
a wind up car are impractical too, eh? Quiet everyone, Millenium Man has
spoken!

Brandon

P.S. look out for my new 12" single co-produced with Britany Spears entitled
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hey kidz i found a really kikass musik program..     mixman.com   
go download a demo and be wasting your entire day here!!!   no really its a 
good prog,mp3 exports    you just need to register to get more sounds, or 
crack the auth code :)


let me know what you think or if you know anything about it
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All I gots ta say is I want a full garbage back not to trace to this e-mail
address and talk to a few cop friends of mine  ;)
-stumps

Pixie wrote:

> either that or hopefully the owner is too stoned to aim straight with his
> shotgun
>
> > ok..this post wins the "they're coming to take me away ha-ha" award (tm)
> for
> > being a bit off the wall...we at the dj funk is dead award (Tm) committee
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 17:53:36 1999
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>Well, the concept is cool...
>
>"Hey look at this record.  I made it."
>"No, I mean I MADE THE RECORD ITSELF."  =) hehehe.
>
>But over all, it's impractical.
>
>Hey, while were at it, let's go back dirt paved roads.

I don't think it's really all that impractical...  maybe if you think of it
as a consumer product, but I really don't think that's how vestax will
market it.

It's the first lathe to be produced in 25 years.  Yes, it's a big deal.
There are very few places anywhere that can cut an acetate for you.  When
this thing comes out, anyone with a very small amout of capitol can start
their own plate-cutting business.  Not many people are going to have the
$8000 or however much to buy one for their own personal use, but the big
thing is that now there can concievably be a place in every city where you
can get a plate cut.  That means no more fedexing your dat to some remote
place and then waiting for the plate to come back to you.  Also, with
lathes everywhere, it's a sure thing that prices will drop.

So you really have to think about how it's gonna be used... for the
consumer, a cd-r is the most economic way to get your music out there.  but
vinyl is still preferable to cd for mixing puproses, and this machine will
allow a lot of people to get their music onto an easily mixable format.

chris

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What are all the louisville kiddos up to this weekend?  Anyone goin to
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 18:15:24 1999
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Hey, this is my roommate Shelley, with some info on the upcoming:

Asphalt Productions presents...
IMPACT...drum and bass
October 29, 1999
In Louisville, KY
$12

B-Boy 3000 Crew:
R.A.W., APX1,
Curious, MC ?
(Mictlan Records, LA)
Finally they are all here, together, in the midwest.  Not to be missed.

3D
(Forte Records, Chicago)
You asked for it...you get it!!!  Prepare yourself.

Alaska
(Bulletproof Robotics Industries, Pittsburgh)
Finally someone in the robotics industry has released a cyborg service
droid exceeding all previous droids.
Bulletproof would like to welcome you to the apocolypse.

Imperial Sound System
(Louisville, Ky)

Amalgamm
(Louisville, Ky)

Louisville's best junglists will surprise you with their skills.

Main Info Line: 502-569-1716
In cooperation with New Machine Chicago: 312-329-6126
And Untranslatable Concepts: 502-584-3337
Brand new EAW sound system, Atmospheric Enhancement by Isotope
Doors open promptly at 8PM.  First 23 people through the door will get a
free long-sleeve drum and bass shirt
Cover: $12
If you are under 21, add $1 for cover
This is an 18+ event with a full bar for those over 21.  ID required.
Location: Headliners Music Hall, 1386 Lexington Road.  No backpacks
allowed.
I hope you are as excited as we are about what is going to hit
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Saturday, September 25, 1999   St. Louis, MO

Erk Production presents:
HARVEST  
A 24 Hour music event.

DJs to include:
-Matt Druid
-DeeJay Recharge
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Saturday, September 25, 1999   St. Louis, MO

Erk Production presents:
HARVEST  
A 24 Hour music event.

DJs to include:
-Matt Druid
-DeeJay Recharge
-Two-Tone
-DJ K-Nine
-Primo
-DNS

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>"Trevor Lamont" <tlamont@gte.net> said:
>
>>I saw him in Cincy once and not only was the man bad but he had
>>a nerve to take his shirt off.  His tits were bigger than the
>>girl I was with.
>
>
>Holy shit.  That's amazing.  I can't wait to see it for myself.  I'll be
>piss drunk, grabbing at his tits, telling him that I love him.  Who has a
>camcorder?

Doesn't anyone care about talent anymore!?

All you people seem to notice in a dj is the
size of his tits!!

Freakin' chauvinists...

Party in Wisconsin!  WOOOP!


PS.
His tits were bigger than the girl you were with?
Those puppies must've been at least like 5 feet
each!  I'd pay to see that.  :P

PPS.
"What do we want?  Tuition free!  When do we
want it?  Now!"  If you should ever go to college,
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you do turn into a mindless horde, take care not to
do it in front of my apartment.  I'm *trying* to
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"Aaron M" <aaronmyers420@hotmail.com> wrote:
WE NEED MORE LIVE P.A.'s @ PARTIES!!! I would really love to see more liv=
e
<br>sets, especially with female vocalists!!! I wanna see some Drum 'n Ba=
ss
with <br>some sweet singing instead of MC'ing for a change... And D.J.'s =
spin
trance <br>sets with some awesome Sarah Maclachlan - type vocalist. We ne=
ed
more D.J.'s <br>like Colette, who can sing and spin records @ the same
time!!!<br><br>Anyway... here are the 5 that come to =



You should check out MC Mis-Ty from Substitution.  She has a killer voice=
=2E =

There isn't anyone like her in the country.

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Hi...I'm new to the list.  My name is Britney Spears and I have big fat
soggy titties.  Before I had big fat soggy titties I was on the Mickey
Mouse Club......But now all i have are two really big and really fat soggy
titties.
So...if you'd like to hang out with me.....and watch my big fat soggy
titties bounce up and down while I dance with my own britney spears
glowsticks....hit me up.

***********ha ha ha....ok...i'm slap happy***

Anyway....I'm Christine....most call me STeen....i subbed to this list a
couple of months ago but then unsubbed becuase I thought it was crap.  But
I'm back....My boyfriend, Phil, Is on here and he talks about all y'all
like he knows you...so I said...Hmmm....let me see what this things all
about.  So...i resubbed awhile ago and have just been laughing my big fat
soggy titties off at you people!  (not really...i'm actually small
breasted) You guys are oh so funny. Making my days at this lame ass job go
by pretty fast.I just thought I'd formally introduce myself.......I go to
Wayne STate here in Detroit....it's ghetto..i hate it....but the what the
fuck can i do, eh?  I need to finish school.  

Alright....well...enough from my stankin' ass....Hi, Bekka! Hi, Doris!  How
are you guys doing?

word a su madre,
steen
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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 Live as if you'll die today"			
	         - James Dean

Christine Abuel
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:53:23 -0500, chris ege wrote:


>
>I don't think it's really all that impractical...  maybe if you think of it
>as a consumer product, but I really don't think that's how vestax will
>market it.
>
>It's the first lathe to be produced in 25 years.  Yes, it's a big deal.
>There are very few places anywhere that can cut an acetate for you.  When
>this thing comes out, anyone with a very small amout of capitol can start
>their own plate-cutting business.  Not many people are going to have the
>$8000 or however much to buy one for their own personal use, but the big
>thing is that now there can concievably be a place in every city where you
>can get a plate cut.  That means no more fedexing your dat to some remote
>place and then waiting for the plate to come back to you.  Also, with
>lathes everywhere, it's a sure thing that prices will drop.
>
>So you really have to think about how it's gonna be used... for the
>consumer, a cd-r is the most economic way to get your music out there.  but
>vinyl is still preferable to cd for mixing puproses, and this machine will
>allow a lot of people to get their music onto an easily mixable format.
>
>chris
>
>

Good point.

	Joe

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 19:19:45 1999
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Ha!  Britney must die!!  Loved your email...welcome to the list.  I am from 
D-Town also.  What HS did you graduate from?

Peace!
Adrienne

>Hi...I'm new to the list.  My name is Britney Spears and I have big fat 
>soggy titties.  Before I had big fat soggy titties I was on the Mickey 
>Mouse Club......But now all i have are two really big and really fat soggy 
>titties. So...if you'd like to hang out with me.....and watch my big fat 
>soggy titties bounce up and down while I dance with my own britney spears 
>glowsticks....hit me up.
>
>***********ha ha ha....ok...i'm slap happy***
>
>Anyway....I'm Christine....most call me STeen....i subbed to this list a
>couple of months ago but then unsubbed becuase I thought it was crap.  But
>I'm back....My boyfriend, Phil, Is on here and he talks about all y'all
>like he knows you...so I said...Hmmm....let me see what this things all
>about.  So...i resubbed awhile ago and have just been laughing my big fat
>soggy titties off at you people!  (not really...i'm actually small
>breasted) You guys are oh so funny. Making my days at this lame ass job go
>by pretty fast.I just thought I'd formally introduce myself.......I go to
>Wayne STate here in Detroit....it's ghetto..i hate it....but the what the
>fuck can i do, eh?  I need to finish school.
>
>Alright....well...enough from my stankin' ass....Hi, Bekka! Hi, Doris!  How
>are you guys doing?
>
>word a su madre,
>steen
>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
>"Dream as if you'll live forever....
>  Live as if you'll die today"
>	         - James Dean
>
>Christine Abuel
>cabuel@sun.science.wayne.edu
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>www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Field/7909
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>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 19:39:22 1999
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Hey guys/girls!

Could all happy hardcore DJ's/fans please respond to 
cloudskipper@kickinbeats.com? I've got a question to ask. Thanks!

Chris

DJ Cloudskipper
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sorry, I just can't help myself sometimes....

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>  I saw punisher play live in toronto a few weeks ago, and I was really
>  impressed.  I hear she spins techno but I don't really know much about
>  that. 

i saw her do a live techno PA in detroit last febuary... it was really dope.  
I'm almost positive she's just spinning, but i'm not sure what style [techno 
or jungle].  I'll try and find out.. hopefully i'll seeya guys there! 


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Hey everybody, the people at my work are kind of dumb and changed all of
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>>From the Ministry Of Sound Website
>
>DJ equipment manufacturers Vestax caused shockwaves at this week?s Plaza
>sound equipment trade fair when they revealed a prototype model
>of their new home vinyl-cutting lathe. Due for release next spring, the
>Vestax machine is the first new vinyl cutter to be released for over twenty
>years and could have a huge impact on the 12? dance market. The lathe works
>in exactly the same way as a lathe in a professional cutting house, using a
>diamond cutter to scratch grooves into the vinyl. At a predicted =A34000,=
 the
>DiY vinyl-maker doesn?t come cheap, but there will no doubt be plenty of
>people prepared to pay for the privilege of cutting their own dub-plates=
 and
>
>acetates. At present there are only a handful of cutting houses offering
>such facilities or indeed cutting vinyl at all, but the Vestax cutter=
 should
>
>provide a welcome shot in the arm for the vinyl market, as well as taking
>the bedroom production revolution to its logical
>conclusion. What with CDRs, MP3 and now DiY vinyl, it seems to be getting
>easier than  ever for bedroom producers to get their music out there, all=
 of
>
>which leaves us asking ?
>why the hell didn?t someone think of this before??
>


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http://www.maz-sound.com/synths_without_frames.html

Try there. It's a pretty good site. Even though I still like using trackers, 
you can never have enough synths and stuff.

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Craig, you need a Nord Modulator!..:)
http://www.clavia.se/

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there are a lot of software programs that you can buy...i dont know a lot
you can download for free though...

ones that are kinda nice to play around with...

rebirth...the second version...has 2 303's, a 909 (yummy), and an 808...
logic
fruity loops
acid
cubase (really nice program...really expensive..$300something...)

if you have midi equipment (aka a keyboard and standard midi is allowed on
your computer...)...then you might try:

cakewalk
unisyn
digital performer
freestyle (what we use here at the university)
finale

some of the midi programs require you to have a basic knowledge of reading
music...others dont...=)

just my input...there prolly are more programs to be had...im just stating
basic ones that have synth/midi capabilities...im not including sampling
programs at all..if you need those names, ill let ya know...

peace
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Life 9 would like to anounce the release of our first promotional
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Abduction 00:05      Friday September 17, 1999          Lexington
Kentucky

featuring:

Terrance Parker - Detroit  
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The Love Zone

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We will have free bottled water and candy like all our events.
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:53:23 -0500 chris ege <crege@students.wisc.edu>
writes:
>I don't think it's really all that impractical...  maybe if you think 
>of it as a consumer product, but I really don't think that's how vestax 
>will market it.

yeah... as i mentioned last nite... could you imagine how much money
could be made if you own a lathe in chicago????  sick amounts of money. 
that is why the UK has a thriving dubplate movement.  There are a rather
large amounts of lathes crammed into a small geographical area.  In the
UK it's possible to finish up a track, run to your buddy's shop, get a
plate made and drop it in front of a crowd that nite.  The possibilities
this offers the US techno scene are limitless...

>So you really have to think about how it's gonna be used... for the
>consumer, a cd-r is the most economic way to get your music out there. 
> but vinyl is still preferable to cd for mixing puproses, and this
machine 
>willallow a lot of people to get their music onto an easily mixable 
>format.

also... the quote about the format lasting almost as long as commercial
vinyl got me thinking... for the first time... it might very well be
financially possible to create individualized battle records.  what DJ
wouldn't want a record full of personalized samples in his crate.  With
dubplates this wasn't possible because of the whole "don't touch" thing,
but if this "vinyl compound" lives up to Vestax's claims... well... quite
simply... the possibilities are endless...

Vestax needs to get sample plates out so we can see what exactly we're
talking about... until then... it's mostly hype...

peace...

-pm-

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>could you imagine how much money
>could be made if you own a lathe in chicago????  sick >amounts of money. 

anyone else in chicago wanna go into business???  I wouldn't mind getting
sick from having tooooo much money!

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I'd really recommend Stomper for drums and bass and something like
hammerhead for arranging loops... I used to generate my samples with a
Windows program called SFX I believe.. It was really neat since you laid
out your sample in a circuit like manner (like a wave generator plugged
into a distortion, etc)...  It was quite neat, you should try that if you
can find it.

Also stuff like Goldwave, CoolEdit and SoundForge is very helpful for
samples.

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> Hey, this is my roommate Shelley, with some info on the upcoming:
>
> Asphalt Productions presents...
> IMPACT...drum and bass
> October 29, 1999
> In Louisville, KY
> $12
>
> B-Boy 3000 Crew:
> R.A.W., APX1,

R.A.W. is the absolute best jungle dj i have ever seen.  imo the best the us
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>- -->Drugs and alcohol take your life force away from you and make
>- -->you live a shorter life....so keep it up kids...
>
>Same goes for smokin' and drinkin'!!!! Not to mention masturbation >and not 
>going to church every Sunday!!!!

perhaps you should just stick to the finer things in life and consume mass 
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In a message dated 99-09-15 18:20:06 EDT, professionalraver@hotmail.com 
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<< perhaps you should just stick to the finer things in life and consume mass 
 quantites of chocolate and mt dew....it works for me >>

hmmmmmm ,,,, mountain dew makes you steril just like drugs and chocolate isnt 
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HEY EVERYBODY,
Don't miss out

Friday September,17th
The Cheetah & Vitamin-e
presents

RICHARD "HUMPTY" VISSION-Aqua Boogie
with 
DJ BODALEG- Boogie Knights, St.Louis

and maybe deejay recharge
might pop up and rock the house
just like he did when BAD BOY BILL came down

The Cheetah
1224 Washington Ave
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hi all,

i have a minty 101 for trade.  you know, roland sh-101, used by everyone and 
their mother for cool shit, well, i'm looking to get 500 bucks for:

Roland sh-101 in great shape, works perfectly, has battery cover
has leather guitar strap, has mod grip/w box, has ORIGINAL manual.

i'm also looking to trade for a sampler, like an emu esi-32 or roland s550, 
something real cool with a lot of flexibility, and at least a 50khz sample 
rate.

let me know you nuggetheadz

jesse

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solidstate and erotishock present...

FADED

thursday september 23, 1999

Josh Wink
Synergy
Chad Mindrive

18+  21 to drink
Cardinal Bar  418 East Wilson Street  Madison, WI
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puttin the hump back in Hump Day, KYND returns to the air again tonite to
bring your your mid-week funk break...  dim the lights... get yourself a
cold drink... slip on a set of headphones... and settle in for the smooth
sounds of 40 Ozs of Wednesday

from 10PM - 2AM CDT set those Real Players pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra

tonite's guests- 

.com
Lee
DLux

tonite's a chance for ladies... as we here at KYND will be unveiling our
brand-new contest... WIN A DATE WITH .COM!!!

as always... we will be chatting all nite on irc in #mw-raves.  be sure
to stop in and say "hi"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 22:51:04 1999
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ooooo ooooo ooooo I wanna win a date with .com!
where do i sighn up!

--- "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com> wrote:
> puttin the hump back in Hump Day, KYND returns to
> the air again tonite to
> bring your your mid-week funk break...  dim the
> lights... get yourself a
> cold drink... slip on a set of headphones... and
> settle in for the smooth
> sounds of 40 Ozs of Wednesday
> 
> from 10PM - 2AM CDT set those Real Players
> pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra
> 
> tonite's guests- 
> 
> .com
> Lee
> DLux
> 
> tonite's a chance for ladies... as we here at KYND
> will be unveiling our
> brand-new contest... WIN A DATE WITH .COM!!!
> 
> as always... we will be chatting all nite on irc in
> #mw-raves.  be sure
> to stop in and say "hi"
> 
> peace and love...
> 
> -pm-
> 
> DJ .com
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 22:59:40 1999
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WTW2

   My frame of mind was perfect ... i had spent all day at center st 
celebration running a stage i had planned and everything went great
Doktor thundar and Geddobirdliberty kicked some ass...i just wish i hadnt 
been running errands during most of their set.

After disassembling the stage and running home and packing my bag we were on 
are way...made the obligatory convience store run and ran into my wrassling 
challenger rena ,talked some shit and then finally got to the party.

    After we had settled in...made a few drinks and found the rest of the 
crew...the strippers started in the mud pit...now i was really worried that 
i was going to look like a compete pansy in the pit...but these gals 
sucked...i was so offended that they were getting PAID and couldnt even put 
on a better show...so rena and i went into the barn where doormouse was 
spinning some booty...it was pretty much empty so myself and rena took the 
whole floor and started shaking our asses...;when dan turned the volume all 
the way down and told us he was only spinning this shit so everybody would 
watch the strippers...i replied along the lines that i would rather dance to 
weak bootty house then watch those wimps..where as he told me to go kick 
there asses ...i really wanted to but couldnt see myself going in the pit 
till i had more*gasp* drugs in my system.

  went and watched bondy try and get in the pit with the girls and it looked 
like he got chastised a bit for that so i challenged him to  a match but he 
chickened out...i dont think he wanted to lose face by being beaten by a 
girl ;)

   went and danced for awhile and was feeling all tingly when rena told me 
IT WAS TIME.. , we went and changed and i got mike to be my roadie...and 
stepped into the pit...fuck it was cold but well worth to squirm around with 
a naked girlie while all you cheered us on...man i love exhibitionism. After 
I had worn her out...chris from canda took us up to the house for a 
shower...that ws the only time i thought i was going to lose my shit...13 
year old girlies ,parents, and barney on the fridge as i stood butt ass 
naked in the kitchen making small talk...finally took our shower and got 
back to the barn in time for doormouse.

  I love how crazy he gets the crowd ... there is something about hadcore 
that gets me so horny, I did the bassbin barncle for awhile and then took a 
breather... the rest of the night i just ran around talkin shit with 
everybody and finding laps to lay in...i know i met a few of you mw list 
kids but all i remember is llauryn. Sorry next time i will try and talk to 
you guys some more. 	I want to thank arno for breakfast and being such a 
kick ass guy. I want to thank jeff for pulling together another insane/sexy 
party...though i wish i could have been hired for the pit ...making rent 
would have been sweet.
i am sure i am forgetting a lot... the only thing i wish could have been 
different ...more live sex... but i always want that!


hopeing for a fuck on a speaker
whendee

P.S. the bruises on my ass are starting to fade

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Okay big guy... This is a message from earth.. SH101s are not worth five
bills...

Game over..

Please insert quarter to try again..

Rob
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Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:37 PM
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>
>
>hi all,
>
>i have a minty 101 for trade.  you know, roland sh-101, used by everyone
and
>their mother for cool shit, well, i'm looking to get 500 bucks for:
>
>Roland sh-101 in great shape, works perfectly, has battery cover
>has leather guitar strap, has mod grip/w box, has ORIGINAL manual.
>
>i'm also looking to trade for a sampler, like an emu esi-32 or roland s550,
>something real cool with a lot of flexibility, and at least a 50khz sample
>rate.
>
>let me know you nuggetheadz
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 23:16:46 1999
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well, i've seen plenty of people sell 101's for 450 with no manual, no 
strap, no mod grip, no case..ok...

i think 50 bucks is well worth all the add ons.

jesse



>Okay big guy... This is a message from earth.. SH101s are not worth five
>bills...
>
>Game over..
>
>Please insert quarter to try again..
>
>Rob
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jesse Settle <skreds@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:37 PM
>Subject: [mw] 101 for trade
>
>
> >
> >
> >hi all,
> >
> >i have a minty 101 for trade.  you know, roland sh-101, used by everyone
>and
> >their mother for cool shit, well, i'm looking to get 500 bucks for:
> >
> >Roland sh-101 in great shape, works perfectly, has battery cover
> >has leather guitar strap, has mod grip/w box, has ORIGINAL manual.
> >
> >i'm also looking to trade for a sampler, like an emu esi-32 or roland 
>s550,
> >something real cool with a lot of flexibility, and at least a 50khz 
>sample
> >rate.
> >
> >let me know you nuggetheadz
> >
> >jesse
> >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 23:20:06 1999
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:30:31 -0400
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Okay, as you can see, you can see my name, Rob..

Im a total loser with an addiction to those little things you see at radio
shack. Most of you walk by them and wonder what to do with them.

Im no genius, but some ppl would say I am, and I dont always know why..

I do live PA, but since im not a blatant shameless self-promoting slut, I
wont tell you my music name.

I mod the hell outta of analog anything, and I know a little about digital,
for all you sicko type digital folk.

Im friends with DJ Tsar.
Im also friends with the indy crew Shiva and Adam Jay.. They were nice
enough to welcome me warmly into the Indy scene.. Some of the ultimate best
in humanity shines brightly from these individuals.

Anyone with any questions, or with gear that needs to be repaired or modded
in the indy area and wants it done at a fair price and with professional
flair, give me an email.

Anyone with questions about my job with electric vehicle systems  and
electro-chem storage systems aka battery backups and such, email me, i
*might* be able to help you..

My hobbies are mostly technical stuff that ppl dont care about.. ;)

I love techno, some trance, dark jungle, etc.

I got loads of gear and have worked at a few music repair places, so if you
have any questions about gear, I might be able to help.

Just looking forward to good conversation and meeting some cool ppl on here!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 23:22:07 1999
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Yeah, ur prolly right on second thought.

I guess if its pure mint... cool.. And you gotta have that "80s built"
sound.

Rob
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From: Jesse Settle <skreds@hotmail.com>
To: cyborg_0@iquest.net <cyborg_0@iquest.net>
Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [mw] 101 for trade


>
>well, i've seen plenty of people sell 101's for 450 with no manual, no
>strap, no mod grip, no case..ok...
>
>i think 50 bucks is well worth all the add ons.
>
>jesse
>
>
>
>>Okay big guy... This is a message from earth.. SH101s are not worth five
>>bills...
>>
>>Game over..
>>
>>Please insert quarter to try again..
>>
>>Rob
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jesse Settle <skreds@hotmail.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>>Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:37 PM
>>Subject: [mw] 101 for trade
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >hi all,
>> >
>> >i have a minty 101 for trade.  you know, roland sh-101, used by everyone
>>and
>> >their mother for cool shit, well, i'm looking to get 500 bucks for:
>> >
>> >Roland sh-101 in great shape, works perfectly, has battery cover
>> >has leather guitar strap, has mod grip/w box, has ORIGINAL manual.
>> >
>> >i'm also looking to trade for a sampler, like an emu esi-32 or roland
>>s550,
>> >something real cool with a lot of flexibility, and at least a 50khz
>>sample
>> >rate.
>> >
>> >let me know you nuggetheadz
>> >
>> >jesse
>> >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 15 23:33:46 1999
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I have told all you people before about this  but i see that it has
fallen on deaf ears.
I have some of this software and although i have not discovered even 30%
of it's capabilities it is only as much as you make it. I now have
soundforge, fruity loops, I have done endless things with mixman studio
pro, like putting samples of Vader, dark lord of the sith in hardcore
jungle mixes. My girl Steen made a trancey track with Obi Wan Kenobi,
saying you will...you will... you will... never find a more wretched
hive of scum and villany.
We have beatles samples. although i still have difficulties compressing
and converting specific wav. files that the computer cannot understand
from mixman and acid dj. or else i would have some wicked shite.
Basically i have more of these programs than i know what to do with but
the dopest shites is playing with all of it. I took this shit ass rigged
cable and hooked it up to my speaker jack on the back of my hard drive.
Then i took the other end and plugged it into my stereo receiver(amp),
then through the tape deck i could record my demos. pretty sweet but it
don't mean a thang if it ain't got that swing....of the turntables that
is. If my girl and I can hopefully one day afford some decks and a
burner it will be on like saigon. I m telling you guys though some of
the software, especially the older versions, are  about as user friendly
as DOS. So if you guys want i can play some more and maybe give some
answers. One of the coolest programs that i have is called fruity loops
and you just program beats so technically its like a 303, 808, and 909's
super basic. So anyway thats what i want to do. And i heard some info
about your earlier discussions from my girl. Well im telling you if i
ever spin at a party i may spin some records that people don't like. I
have a madonna record but i use the instrumentals and change pitch and
speed. I will spin what i like and i will hold and rock a mad groove so
that people don't have the chance to sit down. Keep it rockin' all night
long. It don't matter whatcha got on the platters as long as the beats
get phatter and phatter. So if ya wanna play that ray of light single i
may choose to mix harder shit but more power to ya.              so im
off to read some production management in hopes that i can streamline my
internal business. peace and im audi 5000                  phil


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ok, if anybody has pictures or realvideo of this, i want the link!  i love 
to see naked party girlies!  =O

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What's so wrong with Guns and Roses?
They kicked ass right b4 I discovered Jane's Addiction.......


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Have any of you made plans to attend our record release party (Variable 02)?
Any suggestions or comments are welcome. This party is not only to celebrate
the release of our new compilation, but to also to showcase the artists
involved with our label that many of you haven't seen before. As of now we
have 4 spectacular Live PA's booked and 3 Solid DJ's. For more information
go here http://www.louipimps.com/events/

I want to know what you like and don't like about parties... ie. venues,
music styles, attitudes, fees, etc. Please email me privately. Any feedback
is appreciated and I'll try to see to it that you get one of our 18x24
posters for the release for free.

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Are you fucking NUTS to send that LONG as chain letter....or
just stupid?

This ain't the place for that shit.


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Look for a program called REBIRTH.



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Hey Stan.....
Where's the HARDCORE????



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 00:00:16 1999
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old threads, sorry.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/specials/
sheffield_99/newsid_447000/447058.stm

on the same site as the planet with 2 suns article
there's an article about why there are only 2 human
sexes. their theory is if we had more sexes, we'd have
more sex =] because of more potential mates. it says:

"For example, imagine that you are in a disco and the
lights have gone out. You're looking for someone to go
home with and the law is the first person you bump
into is the person you choose. If there are only two
sexes, then on average, half the time, the person you
meet is not going to be a potential mate."

well he can speak for himself, although i don't know
if i'd necessarily want to go home with the first
person i ran into at the disco. it could be some nasty
stinky person. but at the same time, potential mates
aren't limited to 1 sex (i think everybody is
naturally bisexual but most people have been
conditioned out of it) unless you want to procreate +
nobody wants that with somebody they just met anyway.
but if there were many human sexes, there probably
would be a lot of orgies going on or something! ;)

about the travelling to other galaxies + planets
thread, if you use solar wind from our sun (a star),
you can use it from any other star just the same, so
if the spacecraft is solar powered, it won't be stuck
out there forever. and turning around doesn't have to
happen instantaneously. the spacecraft could use a
combination of solar wind, and slingshotting around
planets (since stars are too hot), for power, in any
galaxy. it could slingshot on one planet to get part
of its yaw (the turning direction), and get the rest
from another. and you don't need an astrophysicist
(except to help you determining stuff like planetary
mass + orbits), you need a rocket scientist, or
better, a propulsion scientist, since we're trying to
find systems faster + more efficent than rockets. i'm
not one of these, so i don't know if anybody's making
progress on space drives or cold fusion. there is
though a really cool idea about how to obtain infinite
(for our purposes at least) power from a black hole,
in the book "black holes and time warps", by kip
thorne. it involves a giant rotating (i think)
toroidial framework around a back hole. also, i don't
think we can be in any rush to get to other stars or
galaxies, it's not going to happen soon, we will
probably have been dead for centuries when it happens,
so it doesn't matter all that much if we can travel
close to the speed of light, because getting there
will take years anyway. we're going to have to use a
mobile space colony (hopefully several, with various
travel itineraries). it will be sort of like a
travelling miniature planet (in a different shape).
generations will pass before it gets anywhere. read
the "rama" series, by arthur c. clarke + gentry lee,
which is about an alien version of this. i REALLY want
to see a rama MOVIE series. i think it has the
potential to be at least almost as important as star
wars.

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If you are a TRACKER or have ever wondered what you can do with
NO MONEY to make yer own tracks.....go to MoBass....the URL is
below....


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At 11:58 AM 9/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I would try Rebirth 2.02 made by the Propellerheads


a good program, but I would recomend the Retro AS-1
great analog synth program and you can even sequence it with an external
sequencer or Cubase/Calkwalk. 

I know with the Win98 version there are some bugs, but I'm not sure about
the mac.....

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Thanks for the tip.  I eagerly await the FIFTEENTH notice in my
mailbox that vestax is revolutionizing the dj business by
manufacturing the first vinyl lathe in over 20 years... Thank you.

we get the picture people.... let it die.


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i just wanted to make SURE everyone got this VERY important message!!

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bah! fuck all this shit abouta damn LIGHTER!!!!! I HAVE BEEN WITHOUT A
REMOTE CONTROL FOR MY CABLE BOX FOR THE PAST_FUCKING_WEEK!!!!

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

*ahem*

however, i am very pleased to inform you all that as of this morning, I
HAVE OBTAINED MY ASS A_NEW_REMOTE!!!!

yes, the horror of having to actually GET UP OFF THE COUCH to change a
goddamn channel, not to mention the emotional trauma of HAVING TO
ACTUALLY SIT THROUGH COMMERCIALS has mercifully come to an end.

you see, this morning, as i was preparing to race downtown to the Warner
Cable(tm) offices to plead for an end to my suffering, who should appear
in my driveway like a Beautiful Angel Of Mercy And Salvation, BUT THE
CABLE GUY HIMSELF!!!!! fully strapped with all the remote controls one
could wish for.........ahhhhhhhhh, PRAISE GOD AND BABY JESUS!!!

now i can look forward to going home tonight after werk and gracefully
surfing through all 60+ channels whilest stoned outta me head on
high-grade marijuana like a MAN, and not some sort of
no-remote-control-havin lowlife piece of hamster-shit-encrusted
schmegma-louse.

i wish to sincerley thank those who've helped me make it through this
horrible period of my life:

wendy, for councilling and consoling and keeping me from truly going
over the edge.

josh, for taking the time to drop off what you thought was the proper
remote by dan's store; even though it didn't work (and i collapsed in a
heap of frustrated tears when i found that out), now that i have a
proper remote and all is well, i can say, "it's the thought that counts"

and dan, for caring for the remote josh dropped off so tenderly and
sweetly untill i was able to pick it up.

and of course, most of all, TO THE CABLE GUY IN SHINING ARMOR WHO CAME
TO MY RESCUE THIS MORNING!!!!!!!

I LOVE YOU ALL!!!

*sob*

--aRNO

http://poofin.com/arno/
1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010

no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor



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Unfortunately Club X took so long confirming the final details for insomnia
that we lost the booking for dieselboy.  Insomnia is still going on with

Mellowman
DJ Booth
D-Phine
Qiom
Eastwood and others

$7
Friday September 24th
Club X

Insomnia will be occurring every two weeks


I should confirm in the next day or so that we will have Wildchild from
London on Oct 8th.  Just have to make the travel arrangements are favorable.





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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 01:51:28 1999
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I will be making sure the pics get put up on poofin.com
in the meantime you can buy my wrassling panties for 50 bucks

trying to make rent
whendee


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If you are lookin for a bad ass software synth, check out "Reality" 
www.seersystems.com .  Its incredible, although it is a bit complicated, 
there are stock sounds though. You must use something to trigger it 
ie:external keyboard, sequencer, etc...

If you are looking to synthisize drum sounds then check out "Stomper" 
www.stomper.com  EXCELLENT!

Peas Brothers n' Sisters,
Shawn

P.S. If yall gots necked pics of me from WTW2, email um' to me.
13thstep@beer.com

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:00:51 PDTFrom: ". craig/spree ." 
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Subject: [mw] Software Synthesizer?Hi everyone :-)
Does anyone know of any software based synthesizer's for either mac or
DOS/Windows? Basically something that can generate sounds :-) Please let me
know, thank you! :-)- -Craig/Spreehttp://members.xoom.com/djspree
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 03:36:04 1999
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Put a few Pictures from Forever After up online, courtesy of suzi, go check
them out on the Subconscious Collective
webpage(www.welcome.to/SubconsciousCollective) click on the pictures link
in the sidebar.

			            Jeffz 
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A BEAUTIFUL STORY:
A woman came out of her house and saw 3 old men with long white beards
sitting in her front yard. She did not recognize them. She said "I don't
think I know you, but you must be hungry. Please come in and have something
to eat.""Is the man of the house home?", they asked."No", she said "He's 
out."
"Then we cannot come in", they replied.
In the evening when her husband came home, she told him what had happened.
"Go tell them I am home and invite them in!" The woman went out and invited
the men in."We do not go into a house together," they replied.
"Why is that?" she wanted to know.
One of the old men explained: "His name is Wealth," he said pointing to one
of his friends, and said pointing to another one, "He is Success, and I am
Love." Then he added, "Now go in and discuss with your husband which one of
us you want in your home."
The woman went in and told her husband what was said. Her husband was
overjoyed. "How nice!!", he said. "Since that is the case, let us invite
Wealth. Let him come and fill our home with wealth!"
His wife disagreed. "My dear, why don't we invite Success?"
Their daughter-in-law was listening from the other corner of the house. She
jumped in with her own suggestion: "Would it not be better to invite Love?
Our home will then be filled with love!"
"Let us heed our daughter-in-law's advice," said the husband to his wife. 
"Go
out and invite Love to be our guest."
The woman went out and asked the 3 old men, "Which one of you is
Love? Please come in and be our guest."
Love got up and started walking toward the house. The other 2 also got up 
and
followed him. Surprised, the lady asked Wealth and Success: "I only invited
Love, Why are you coming in?"
The old men replied together: "If you had invited Wealth or Success, the
other two of us would've stayed out, but since you invited Love, wherever He
goes, we go with him. Wherever there is Love, there is also Wealth and
Success!!!!!!"OUR WISH FOR YOU...
Where there is pain, we wish you peace and mercy.
Where there is self-doubting, we wish you a renewed confidence in
your ability to work through them.
Where there is tiredness, or exhaustion, we wish you understanding, 
patience,
and renewed strength.Where there is fear, we wish you love, and courage.
You have two choices right now:1. Delete this, or...
2. Invite love by sharing this story with all the people you care about.
I hope you will choose #2. I did.Peace to you my friend

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MW-RAVERS, 

  Hey all you STL kids out there.......... Isn't this the same night as the 
Familiar Faces crews last party, Accelerator? I sure hope not, just when STL 
gets a good thing going then something comes along and WHAM!!!! Now its a 
hard call on what to attend. Someone give me some feedback if you know what's 
up, but right now, I'm still planning on going to Accelerator. 

Let me know. 

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Everyone:

>>some good sets on it and the webcasts are great also.
     www.trancedomain.com

Please check out my friend Jason's broadcast every Wednesday night from 10pm 
til whenever he get's bored.  :)  Jason Dunne is DA BOMB!  And a great 
person as well...:)

PLUR,

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 04:44:52 1999
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some of the archived music from tfc's future shock are up on
http://chemlab.org under the music section.  these files are 32k mp3 files
that should stream in winamp or a comparable mp3 player without having to
download them.   these and more will also be availiable at
http://futureconsortium.com.

more to come..

enjoy!
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A LIQUID AFFAIR
 
A BENEFIT PARTY FOR FLUID RECORDS OPENING SOON IN THE KC AREA

WITH DJ'S
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read the subject and you will know the score...dazee and chickaboo make
another appearance in the queen city after their mindblowing set as part of
the kung-fu knowledge tour last spring...call 513.665.9999 for more info,
venue: dv8-walnut st. downtown cincinnati

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940B morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
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Saturday, September 25                           Indianapolis      FUNK 
enterprises invites you to enroll.....

---------------------------COLLEGE---------------------------------

your audio professors:

Dan Efex-Chicago
Jeffree Dee-FUNK enterprises, Milwaukee
Matt Bandy-SUBterror/Alien Squad, Lexington
Gizzmo-SUBterror, Kokomo
Jay-C   -Dynamic Groove, Milwaukee
Top Speed-Crush Entertainment, Indianaoplis
DJ Tsar-Level 9.0/K-Krew, Evansville
Bodaleg-Boogie Nights, St. Louis
Tim Krochalk-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
Christina-Docile, Indianapolis
Nate the Natural-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
DJ Booth-Garage Prod, Louisville
Matt Aiden-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis

this will be held in a multi-level venue w/ two rooms of sound
Lighting by Light Fantastik

FUNK enterprises 317.375.7744        Kindred Groove 314.995.9215
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 05:42:42 1999
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in case you have been keeping up with the lift clubnight, GEORGE ACOSTA was
previously scheduled to appear on this date at lift...DJ SS AND MC WARREN G
have been booked as replacements...looks like september has been quite the
month for dnb fanatics in the area...those of you who missed aphrodite last
week should be kicking yourselves...on a related side note, GROUP THERAPY,
the subsonik affiliated sunday weekly will be hosting DJ 3D from chicago on
SUNDAY 9/26/99...im not sure of the rest of the lineup, but i have been
assured that this will be a very special and notable appearance by mr 3D...
dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@hotmail.com
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 05:53:07 1999
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i don't think this is on the calendars yet. sorry for
the short notice. i just got the infoline + things
have been a little hectic. i'm posting all the info i
have about the lineup (i don't have all the details
about each performer).

Internal Affairs presents:
PHAT FREE 2 (pre-party to Soundstorm)
this saturday, noon-9pm

ian mariano: cleveland
deep blue
kid napalm
exigence: north royalton, oh/internal affairs/live pa
dave hutchinson: kent, oh
antik: live pa-jungle
judocats
kid velocity
moke: orrville, oh/hard techno
<----------------------.
photon (me): strongsville, oh/internal affairs/ hard 
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                                 possible 2hr
tagteam-'
(i just found out about the tagteam idea + have never
met this guy yet so we're going to try it in practice
first to be sure it will work.)

this party is free + should be outside, so bring a
jacket since it's starting to get a little cold at
night.

np: dj hype & dj zinc-true playaz 3 deck mixup
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sorry i hit the send button by accident too soon on
that message now it is gone + the infoline is not on
it. this is the infoline 216.556.4607. that's for phat
free 2, saturday in cleveland.


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Anybody who watches the FX channel notice the Married with Children commercials with several amen breaks?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 06:14:13 1999
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Oh...that was me.

TRUNK

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 06:24:40 1999
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another old thread. i've got all these old messages
like 40 digests to go through. =/ anyway on the death
test i got these results: i am likely to die on:

aug 06, 2052
at the ripe old age of 76.

by that time my neural networks should be transferred
to computer so i won't really be dead.

this is what might kill me:

cancer 20%
alcoholism 14%
alien abduction 10%
loneliness 7%
contagious disease 7%
auto-erotic asphyxiation 6% (how did they know this?
there wasn't a question about it. am i the only girl
who has done this? i don't think i'm at risk of
strangling myself though (anymore). orgasms are better
when you hold your breath because you feel high.)

i wonder why i'm at such a big risk for cancer. i
don't smoke or sunbathe a lot or hang out at the
nuclear power plant. i'm probably at a greater risk
for heart disease because i eat a lot of ice cream. at
least i'm not at risk for 3rd degree burns. that is a
frightening death to imagine.

only 3% have had team sex. i'm on that team too. gives
me a contaigious disease risk probably. that reminds
me when is the mw-sex-meet? ;) this came up on the
pb-cle list once. maybe it's like a net meet. or maybe
it's like a swim meet. i wonder how many different
strokes can be used? (breaststroke? backstroke?
freestyle sex?) what are we going to call the
cleveland sex team? who gets to judge? go cleveland!

np: happy 2b hardcore 3 (amateur review to follow)
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I know where I'll be on the 25th!



--- FUNK enterprises <funkenterprises@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Saturday, September 25                          
> Indianapolis      FUNK 
> enterprises invites you to enroll.....
> 
> ---------------------------COLLEGE---------------------------------
> 
> your audio professors:
> 
> Dan Efex-Chicago
> Jeffree Dee-FUNK enterprises, Milwaukee
> Matt Bandy-SUBterror/Alien Squad, Lexington
> Gizzmo-SUBterror, Kokomo
> Jay-C   -Dynamic Groove, Milwaukee
> Top Speed-Crush Entertainment, Indianaoplis
> DJ Tsar-Level 9.0/K-Krew, Evansville
> Bodaleg-Boogie Nights, St. Louis
> Tim Krochalk-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
> Christina-Docile, Indianapolis
> Nate the Natural-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
> DJ Booth-Garage Prod, Louisville
> Matt Aiden-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
> 
> this will be held in a multi-level venue w/ two
> rooms of sound
> Lighting by Light Fantastik
> 
> FUNK enterprises 317.375.7744        Kindred Groove
> 314.995.9215
>          Indianapolis                            St.
> Louis
> 
> Saturday, September 25                          
> Indianapolis
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somebody put out ken, he's on fire.



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 07:24:50 1999
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Well....  2 things....


1: Anyone with half a brian (let alone tits or testicles) can mix D&B from
the airy little intros or breaks.....  And this is exactly what she did.....
So, from that I make my judgement....  She sucks!!!


2:  Doris is WAAAAYYY hotter!!!

Love always,
derek.



"I want specifics on the general idea.... I want to think what I should
know...I want you to do me what to show."





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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 07:37:39 1999
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(i've had this cd around for a little while + finally
decided to write a review. it's a totally amateur
review. i'm not a professional critic of anything. a
lot of these tracks remind me of a lot of other wierd
stuff, has that happened to anybody else?)

anabolic frolic: happy 2b hardcore 3
the beatmatching is just a little off a few times here
+ there but it's not really distracting. other than
that, the mixing is perfect.

unique-distant skies: this track is a little too
mellow for my tastes, in happy hardcore at least, it's
ok though.

bang!-break of dawn: this is more upbeat. it's a
pretty good track although the singing isn't exactly
spectacular.

brisk & trixxy-eurolove: this goes "love is like a
fantasy for you and me together we'll live in
harmony". it has a nice breakdown with these funny
squeaky bleepy sounds. it has a good stompy feel like
previous happy 2b hardcores.

triple j-wonderful world: this one goes "shake like an
eathquake cut like a guillotine. where lovers are
dancing on clouds that are silver and white seasons
are changing and rainbows are shining all night". more
happy stompyness + pretty sounds.

trixxy-sunrize: this track is kind of trancey, not all
that happy. it has some girl saying "i can see the
sunrise".

visa-don't go away: the singing on this reminds me of
some cheesy europop group like ace of base. but i
still like the track. also more trancey, less happy.

bang!-shooting star: the singer in this track has a
voice like some country music singer, i don't know
who. it's weird. lots of pianos in the track. it goes
"like a shooting star across the midnight sky".

innovate-innovate: more happiness. =] the singing goes
"innovate! redefine! innovate! redesign!" pianos again
and an acid bassline.

sy & demo-sensation: this track has some guy rapping
at the beginning. he says "i'm the (something i can't
understand) like farrakhan". that's weird. anybody
know what that's about? farrakhan isn't somebody i'd
expect to be mentioned in a happy hardcore track.
later on, there's a breakdown & this track sounds just
like "plastic dreams" with the notes rearranged into a
different melody.

dj slam-till we meet again: there's a girl singing
"now summer has turned to fall the leaves turned gold
& brown at the end of another day the sun goes down on
a magical starlit night the beauty shines so bright
(some other words i can't understand) and it feels so
right" for some reason this reminds me of final
fantasy 7. this is also fairly stompy with a bunch of
pianos.

kingsize & eternity-you belong to me: this starts out
with this girl rapping that sounds sped up then
timestretched. then it gets really fast and happy. =]

sy & demo-tears run cold: this track uses a vocoder!
there's a breakdown with the robot voice saying "tears
run cold" + that part sounds a lot like the song
"tainted love" it has the same type of synthesizers.
this track is kind of sad + kind of happy.

demo & ad man-pleasure & pain: the pleasure is the
instrumental parts of the track, the pain is the
singing. it's this guy with a voice like the singers
in dumb top 40/alternative groups like matchbox 20 +
dave matthews band. it's so nasal + annoying. i wish
this track was instrumental or had a different singer,
then it would be really good. it has a bunch of air
raid sirens + pianos.

brisk & trixxy-eyeopener: i love this track. =] it has
these trumpet sounds + jungle beats in the breakdown,
then there's this girl (another ace-of-base-or-la-
bouche-type singer) singing "open your eyes see all
the love in me i've got enough forever don't be afraid
take all you need from me and we'll be (?) together",
then it gets really fast + happy with more trumpets.
then there's this guy rapping, he has a voice just
like busta rhymes but a different style. sounds like
previous happy 2b hardcores also.

hyperactive-let me play: this has some girl singing "i
can never face another day yeah if there ain't no
ravers' groove to let me play" weird. kind of trancey,
still happy though.

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No see... That was done on purpose!!!


How else would he get all those Spiders and Snakes off of him?????


derek.

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From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
To: ravelings <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 2:59 AM
Subject: [mw] !


>
>somebody put out ken, he's on fire.
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Hmmmm...


Was anyone else confused by this message?????


derek.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phillip M Pompa <ac5861@wayne.edu>
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:34 PM
Subject: [mw] Listen up god dammit


>I have told all you people before about this  but i see that it has
>fallen on deaf ears.
>I have some of this software and although i have not discovered even 30%
>of it's capabilities it is only as much as you make it. I now have
>soundforge, fruity loops, I have done endless things with mixman studio
>pro, like putting samples of Vader, dark lord of the sith in hardcore
>jungle mixes. My girl Steen made a trancey track with Obi Wan Kenobi,
>saying you will...you will... you will... never find a more wretched
>hive of scum and villany.
>We have beatles samples. although i still have difficulties compressing
>and converting specific wav. files that the computer cannot understand
>from mixman and acid dj. or else i would have some wicked shite.
>Basically i have more of these programs than i know what to do with but
>the dopest shites is playing with all of it. I took this shit ass rigged
>cable and hooked it up to my speaker jack on the back of my hard drive.
>Then i took the other end and plugged it into my stereo receiver(amp),
>then through the tape deck i could record my demos. pretty sweet but it
>don't mean a thang if it ain't got that swing....of the turntables that
>is. If my girl and I can hopefully one day afford some decks and a
>burner it will be on like saigon. I m telling you guys though some of
>the software, especially the older versions, are  about as user friendly
>as DOS. So if you guys want i can play some more and maybe give some
>answers. One of the coolest programs that i have is called fruity loops
>and you just program beats so technically its like a 303, 808, and 909's
>super basic. So anyway thats what i want to do. And i heard some info
>about your earlier discussions from my girl. Well im telling you if i
>ever spin at a party i may spin some records that people don't like. I
>have a madonna record but i use the instrumentals and change pitch and
>speed. I will spin what i like and i will hold and rock a mad groove so
>that people don't have the chance to sit down. Keep it rockin' all night
>long. It don't matter whatcha got on the platters as long as the beats
>get phatter and phatter. So if ya wanna play that ray of light single i
>may choose to mix harder shit but more power to ya.              so im
>off to read some production management in hopes that i can streamline my
>internal business. peace and im audi 5000                  phil
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 07:42:36 1999
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Doris is hot!  she is my love muffin.
and derek is my slutty love muffin.

Love,
mike

-----Original Message-----
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To: Hippy Ravers.... <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 2:25 AM
Subject: [mw] DJ Rap...Last night @ Motor


>Well....  2 things....
>
>
>1: Anyone with half a brian (let alone tits or testicles) can mix D&B from
>the airy little intros or breaks.....  And this is exactly what she
did.....
>So, from that I make my judgement....  She sucks!!!
>
>
>2:  Doris is WAAAAYYY hotter!!!
>
>Love always,
>derek.
>
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>
>"I want specifics on the general idea.... I want to think what I should
>know...I want you to do me what to show."
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 07:51:13 1999
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Subject: Re: [mw] FREE!!! soundstorm pre-party - saturday noon-9pm, cleveland
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Also pre-party for SoundStorm in Chicago @ Supreme Records friday from 5-9pm
info:  773.862.7047 - Supreme or Blink - 312.409.8684

mike d / gruve
Full Spectrum Chicago
djgruve@home.net
ICQ:  10894517 | AOL IM:  gruve303
http://members.home.net/djgruve - Full Spectrum
http://www.angelalanis.com

-----Original Message-----
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To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>;
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Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:53 AM
Subject: [mw] FREE!!! soundstorm pre-party - saturday noon-9pm, cleveland


>i don't think this is on the calendars yet. sorry for
>the short notice. i just got the infoline + things
>have been a little hectic. i'm posting all the info i
>have about the lineup (i don't have all the details
>about each performer).
>
>Internal Affairs presents:
>PHAT FREE 2 (pre-party to Soundstorm)
>this saturday, noon-9pm
>
>ian mariano: cleveland
>deep blue
>kid napalm
>exigence: north royalton, oh/internal affairs/live pa
>dave hutchinson: kent, oh
>antik: live pa-jungle
>judocats
>kid velocity
>moke: orrville, oh/hard techno
><----------------------.
>photon (me): strongsville, oh/internal affairs/ hard
>|
>                                   + minimal techno
><-|
>
>|
>                                 possible 2hr
>tagteam-'
>(i just found out about the tagteam idea + have never
>met this guy yet so we're going to try it in practice
>first to be sure it will work.)
>
>this party is free + should be outside, so bring a
>jacket since it's starting to get a little cold at
>night.
>
>np: dj hype & dj zinc-true playaz 3 deck mixup
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 08:00:27 1999
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Subject: [mw] 3 Days till ***SoundStorm    Directions Posted
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SoundStorm    9.18.99    Cleveland USA

Full Spectrum & L.I.M.E.  http://members.home.net/djgruve

The event will take place at The Agora Theatre.
The Agora Theatre is located at: 5000 Euclid Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio

MAIN INFO LINES:
L.I.M.E. LINE - 216.556.4998
FULL SPECTRUM - 773.509.6343

SoundStorm Room:
9 - 10:30 - Luis Aguilera aka Galaga
10:30 - 12:00 - C-4
12:00 - 1:00 Delta 9
!:00 - 2:15 - Angel Alanis + Halo aka TRunKids feat. Colette on vocals
**First Ever Live PA
2:15 - 3:30 - Dj Sy & MC Storm
3:30 - 5:00 - Slacker
5:00 - 6:00 - CZR
Thunder Room:
9:00 - 10:00 - Special D & B DJ ????
10:30 - 12:00 - Tigger
12:00 - 1:00 - Issac "kickin it" Curial
1:00 - 2:30 - Lion
2:30 - 4:00 - Dj Jes
4:00 - 6:00 - Josh Blink's Royal Rumble Feat. Josh Grant & friends

For presale locations visit the Full Spectrum website
http://members.home.net/djgruve
presale go until friday for $18

VISIT THE WEBSITE FOR PINPOINT DRIVING DIRECTIONS





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..I'm back on the list  (and I have LOTS of stuff to tell ya'..)
                  it'll all haveta wait, tho 'cuz it's waaaay past my
bedtime... ;P 

c-ya !!  (uh, if the new hurricane doesn't knock out the power lines,
that is..heh heh..)

x's and o's,
jessica / jes c
<3  *hugz and kisses 2 all mw-ravers, 'cuz they were MISSED!!*  <3
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um, yipes!  by the way, as many should well know, my name's not Linda -
I'm at someone else's house right now &  i just installed juno so i could
import my old account 

 ..jus' call me jes c..

smooches, 
jessica / jes c
-fukkin shit up-
-been up too long-

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represent the beatz u feel"  *yawn*  ;-O 






























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In Britain they have the best cigarette label and bilboard warnings....my
favorite.  WARNING smoking will kill you.


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>I HAVE BEEN WITHOUT A
>REMOTE CONTROL FOR MY CABLE BOX FOR THE PAST_FUCKING_WEEK!!!!
>
>AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

ok, so we havent had a remote for a little over a week ourselves....you 
think we can borrow the help youve had?? theres seven of us and we are all 
crying....
of course, all we need is batteries....
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just a correction on the date.  The date is November 5, 1999.
 


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IMPORTANT MESSAGE:

Please spare a minute to read this mail.  Thank you.

The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women.  The situation is 
getting so bad that one person in an editorial of the New York Times 
compared the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in 
pre-Holocaust Poland.

Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have 
been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if 
this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes.  One 
woman was beaten to DEATH by an angry mob of fundamentalists for 
accidentally exposing her arm while she was driving.  Another was stoned to 
death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative.  
Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male 
relative; professional women such as professors, translators,doctors, 
lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and stuffed 
into their homes, so that depression is becoming so widespread that it has 
reached emergency levels. There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society
to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating 
that the suicide rate among women, who cannot find proper medication and 
treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives than live 
in such conditions, has increased significantly.  Homes where a woman is 
present must have their windows painted so that she can never be seen by 
outsiders.  They must wear silent shoes so that they are never heard.  Women
live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior.  Because they
cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either starving to 
death or begging on the street, even if they hold Ph.D.'s.  There are almost 
no medical facilities available for women, and relief workers have mostly 
left the country.  At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found 
still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in 
their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do anything but slowly waste away. 
  Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, rocking or crying, 
most of them in fear.  One doctor is considering, when what little 
medication that is left finally runs out, leaving these women in front of 
the president's residence as a form of peaceful protest.  It is at the point 
where the term 'human rights violations' has become an understatement.
Husbands have the power of life and death over their female relatives, 
especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or 
beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending 
them in the slightest way.

David Cornwell has said that those in the West should not judge the Afghan 
people for such treatment because it is a 'cultural thing', but this is not 
even true.  Women enjoyed relative freedom to work, dress generally as they 
wanted, and drive and appear in public alone until only 1996 -- the rapidity 
of this transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide; women 
who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human freedoms 
are now severely restricted and treated as sub-human in the name of 
right-wing fundamentalist Islam.  It is not their tradition or 'culture', 
but is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where 
fundamentalism is the rule.  Besides, if we could excuse everything on 
cultural grounds, then we should not be appalled that the Carthaginians 
sacrificed their infant children, that little girls are circumcised in parts 
of Africa, that blacks in the U.S. deep south in the 1930's were lynched, 
prohibited from voting, and forced to submit to unjust Jim Crow laws, 
because it was 'cultural'.  Everyone has a right to a tolerable human 
existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country in a part of the world 
that Westerners may not understand.

If we can threaten military force in Kosovo in the name of human rights for 
the sake of ethnic Albanians, then NATO and the West can certainly express 
peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against 
women by the Taliban.


                              *************
STATEMENT:

In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women in Afghanistan 
is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves action by the people of the United 
Nations and that the current situation in Afghanistan will not be tolerated. 
  Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere and it is UNACCEPTABLE for 
women in 1999 to be treated as sub-human and so much as property.  Equality 
and human decency is a RIGHT, not a freedom, whether one lives in
Afghanistan or anywhere else.

*****
1)  Shahana S Ahmed, Nairobi, Kenya
2)  Tashmin Khamis, Karachi, Pakistan.
3)  Frank Haupt, Bern, Switzerland
4)  Adrian Coad, Strasbourg, France
5)  Brian Skinner, Loughborough, England
6)  Paul Chung, Loughborough, England
7)  Bryan Knell, Woodhouse Eaves, England
8)  Richard Tiplady, Chesham, England
9)  Carolyn Skinner, Ilford, England
10) Fiona Bower, Lewisham, England
11) Angela H. Moor, Lewisham, England
12) Ian L. Moor, Lewisham, England
13) Hugh Shanahan, Cambridge, England
14) Anne-Christine Davis, Cambridge, England
15) Tom Kibble, London, England
16) Sten Larsson, Stockholm, Sweden
17) Goran Sjonell, Stockholm, Sweden
18) Frans J.M. Konig, Velp, The Netherlands
19) Carl Steylaerts, Zandbergen, Belgium
20) Marc Michaux, Hasselt, Belgium
21) Pinh Pinh Yu, Antwerp, Belgium
22) Marianne Meire, Sevilla, Spain
23) Tessa Vermeiren, Antwerp, Belgium
24) Dr. Youssef Ben Abdeljelil, Antwerp, Belgium
25) Gertrudis Van de Vijver, Gent, Belgium
26) Jan Bransen, Utrecht, The Netherlands
27) Pieter Pekelharing, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
28) Ido de Haan, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
29) Ger Groot, Brussels, Belgium
30) Renee van de Vall, Maastricht,The Netherlands
31) David Hamers, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
32) Ivo Schoofs, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
33) Jacco Scheer, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
34) Erwin Voogd, Woerden, The Netherlands
35) Andrew Flewitt, Ilkeston, England
36) Marjolein Roerhorst, Ilkeston, England
37) Jan Roerhorst, Utrecht, The Netherlands
38) Jeroen Vedder, Utrecht, The Netherlands
39) Mark Roos, Utrecht, The Netherlands
40) Mike Platenkamp, Utrecht, The Netherlands
41) Buddy Love (aka Von Regan Davis), Toledo, Ohio, USA
42) Marcel Schooler, Budd Lake, United States
43) Marcia Carr, London, England United Kingdom
44) Jim SeKoch, Detroit, Michigan USA

****
Please sign to support,and include your town and country.  Then copy and 
e-mail to as many people as possible.  If you receive this list with more 
than 50 names on it, please e-mail a copy of it to:

Mary Robinson, High Commissioner, UNHCHR
webadmin.hchr@un.org

and to:

Angela King, Special Advisor on Gender Issues and the Advancement of Women,
United Nations
daw@undp.org

Even if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill the 
petition.  Thank you.  It is best to copy rather than forward the petition.

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>i am sure i am forgetting a lot... the only thing i wish could have 
been 
>different ...more live sex... but i always want that!
>
>
>hopeing for a fuck on a speaker

MAN, I need to find me a girl like this!!! 

gettin no play in KC

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Many of you prolly don't care, but being stranded here, this is a welcomed 
releif.  I need a car, or private jet or something.
I'll prolly be there, it's better than spending $5 at a house party and 
having some guy in a polaris jacket and rusty wallis hat trying to take you 
woman home with him....
I'll wear something distinctive....uhhh, I'll wear flashing bracelets, 
yeah... so don't be afraid to come say high
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4th time this has been posted in two days.
As important as it is, it doesn't have much to do w/ MW Raves, and should
(at a minimum) have the world famous "NRR"...which I've added.  More
appropriately, it shoulda been posted to a website for everyone to read,
and the site posted to the list... yes, no?
IMHO

Kale/DreamSequence

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Jim SeKoch wrote:

> IMPORTANT MESSAGE:
>=20
> Please spare a minute to read this mail.=A0 Thank you.
>=20
> The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women.=A0 The situatio=
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i thought the mixmag tour with dj craze, banco de gaia, and sdf-one was
gonna be at lift/dv8 on the 23rd.  what up?

"Thursday Sept 23rd: From Formation Records: DJ-SS and MC Warren G
w/Jeremiah at Club DV8 on Walnut in Cincinnati."

and whats the deal wth the whole dv8/lift ting?  same club different
nights?

thanx
jim

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Sorry about repetition...didn't even see it on the list before this morning! 
  Apologies if you got upset.  :(

Bop

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>somebody put out ken, he's on fire.

and he has snakes all over him too
**lora**

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Lift is a weekly club night.  It is every Thursday in Cincinnati.
 DV8 is the name of the club where it is held.


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|From: DJSterling@webtv.net (Sterling)
|To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
|Date: 9/16/99 9:36:35 AM
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|i thought the mixmag tour with dj craze, banco de gaia, and
sdf-one was
|gonna be at lift/dv8 on the 23rd.  what up?
|
|"Thursday Sept 23rd: From Formation Records: DJ-SS and MC Warren
G
|w/Jeremiah at Club DV8 on Walnut in Cincinnati."
|
|and whats the deal wth the whole dv8/lift ting?  same club different
|nights?
|
|thanx
|jim
|
|Life9@webtv.net
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> Where there is pain, we wish you peace and mercy.

Wherever there is injustice, you will find us...

wherever there is suffering, we'll be there...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 15:13:09 1999
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> >somebody put out ken, he's on fire.
> 
> and he has snakes all over him too

and spiders.  bring on the raid.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 15:23:53 1999
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i deleted the mail that whoever it was sent about the life-expectancy 
site....anyone got the URL...i wanna check it out....
it cant be accurate tho....were ravers dammit...
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dusty bottoms, ned needlelander, and lucky day! yeow!

"would you like to kiss me on the veranda?"
"the lips would be fine."

> Wherever there is injustice, you will find us...
> wherever there is suffering, we'll be there...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 16:02:12 1999
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http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/

I was thinking of doing this myself, any comments? HOHOHOHO

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yes i think we should do this, have a big midwest personal ad section, 
that's great 13 yr olds lookin for love in all the wrong places, lookin for 
love with too many faces, a lonely whooo oh lookin for looooove


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>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
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>I was thinking of doing this myself, any comments? HOHOHOHO
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>>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/


yeah....mullet in full effect. What is he? Like 13?

haha

ricA
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he's 11, didn't you listen??

I think he's HOT*!



> >>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
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so who is going to harass this kid?  I know someone wants to


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>he's 11, didn't you listen??
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>he's 11, didn't you listen??
>
>I think he's HOT*!


hmmmm... maybe i should grow my hair out???


tres
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> so who is going to harass this kid?  I know someone wants to

dont harass him! I feel sorry for the poor kid!  Look at the bottom:

"don't break up with me after I like you"

it just doesn't get more poigant than that!

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for those of you who don't know him...the person in that pic is actually
Dica. 

Gip

At 11:02 AM 9/16/99 -0500, Brandon Ivers wrote:
>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
>
>I was thinking of doing this myself, any comments? HOHOHOHO
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 16:31:32 1999
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I think for once everyone can stop bitchin about nrrr posts this is a human 
issue...we say we wnaty the seen to change , what if the next big party was 
a benifit for one of these hospitals and the fact that has been posted four 
times should matter even less...you think those women can ignore there life?

there are ways to change things , and this petion is a start...so until you 
get off YOUR ASS  and do something shut up

whendee


>4th time this has been posted in two days.
>As important as it is, it doesn't have much to do w/ MW Raves, and should
>(at a minimum) have the world famous "NRR"...which I've added.  More
>appropriately, it shoulda been posted to a website for everyone to read,
>and the site posted to the list... yes, no?
>IMHO
>
>Kale/DreamSequence
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>On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Jim SeKoch wrote:
>
> > IMPORTANT MESSAGE:
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> > Please spare a minute to read this mail.  Thank you.
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> > The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women.  The situation 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 16:34:24 1999
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muahahaha!!!  thanks to anybody that voted...

Watch the winning episode from last week:
Rainforest Schmainforest on Wednesday, Sept. 22 at 10 p.m./7 C!


it won by like 1200+ votes!


tres
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 16:36:01 1999
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>dont harass him! I feel sorry for the poor kid!  Look at the bottom:
>
>"don't break up with me after I like you"
>
>it just doesn't get more poigant than that!


hey lets go find him, give him candy, sprinkle him with glitter, and prance 
around him signing the PLUR song!!! =D


tres
... do i get my candy raver badge now??

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 16:36:16 1999
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Funny you should ask... Ken and I were just talking about all the FUN things
were gonna do!!!!


Wait...You all waited for his .Wav file to open, right...???    THAT was
scary!!!!

derek.

"I want specifics on the general idea.... I want to think what I should
know...I want you to do me what to show."


-----Original Message-----
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>so who is going to harass this kid?  I know someone wants to
>
>
>>From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
>>Reply-To: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
>>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>>Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
>>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:13:49 -0400
>>
>>he's 11, didn't you listen??
>>
>>I think he's HOT*!
>>
>>
>>
>> > >>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
>> >
>> >
>> > yeah....mullet in full effect. What is he? Like 13?
>> >
>> > haha
>> >
>> > ricA
>> > Porch Honky Militia
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 16:46:53 1999
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I think you should be his girlfriend pixie, wouldnt he feel cool if some 
older woman from the midwest wanted him, you could stroke his mullet and 
clean his glasses


>From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
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>
>he's 11, didn't you listen??
>
>I think he's HOT*!
>
>
>
> > >>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
> >
> >
> > yeah....mullet in full effect. What is he? Like 13?
> >
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everyone at work is rolling on the ground after i played the wav


>From: "Derek Plaslaiko" <plaslaik@ix.netcom.com>
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>Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
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>
>Funny you should ask... Ken and I were just talking about all the FUN 
>things
>were gonna do!!!!
>
>
>Wait...You all waited for his .Wav file to open, right...???    THAT was
>scary!!!!
>
>derek.
>
>"I want specifics on the general idea.... I want to think what I should
>know...I want you to do me what to show."
>
>
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>
>
> >so who is going to harass this kid?  I know someone wants to
> >
> >
> >>From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> >>Reply-To: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> >>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
> >>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:13:49 -0400
> >>
> >>he's 11, didn't you listen??
> >>
> >>I think he's HOT*!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > >>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > yeah....mullet in full effect. What is he? Like 13?
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> >> > haha
> >> >
> >> > ricA
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> yes i think we should do this, have a big midwest personal ad section, 
> that's great 13 yr olds lookin for love in all the wrong places, lookin
> for love with too many faces, a lonely whooo oh lookin for looooove
----
"wooking por nerp in de wong paces...wooking per nerp"

damn, this kid is more aggressive than i will ever be!
kudos, kid. kudos. 

besides, if i record my own voice, people would think their computer
has been possessed by the devil or something. say, that's an idea..
just filter the .wav through some processor...then i can sound like
barry white! 

"anything...for a lady"

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What the hell does he say? 

"Please ????????? ??? ??????????. Thanks for stopping by"

I played it several times and can't figure this out.

ricA
Porch Honky Militant

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everyone at work is rolling on the ground after i played the wav


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If anybody knows how I can contact this guy please let me know.  
Phone #?  E-Mail?  I need to ask him something.
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What the hell does he say? 

"Please ????????? ??? ??????????. Thanks for stopping by"

I played it several times and can't figure this out.
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i heard that if you play it backward, it will reveal satanic messages.

*yawns* *ponders leaving work to play FF8*

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From: powdered toastman <psenet@cs.uchicago.edu>
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ok, what's up here.  My state is a pretty cool place to live.  But the
onyl references I see to my state on this site are

1) that Smurfette girl's web site(apparently she lives in the same town as
me, too)

2) mullet-boy

whelp, if any of you are still interested in some hot 11-year old action,
drop me a line.  I'm sure I can work something out for you

		toastman

	p.s. chix really do dig mullets around here.

	p.p.s is Devil Girl still on here? I know she will empathize.


On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:

> everyone at work is rolling on the ground after i played the wav
> 
> 
> >From: "Derek Plaslaiko" <plaslaik@ix.netcom.com>
> >Reply-To: "Derek Plaslaiko" <plaslaik@ix.netcom.com>
> >To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>, <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
> >Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:40:29 -0400
> >
> >Funny you should ask... Ken and I were just talking about all the FUN 
> >things
> >were gonna do!!!!
> >
> >
> >Wait...You all waited for his .Wav file to open, right...???    THAT was
> >scary!!!!
> >
> >derek.
> >
> >"I want specifics on the general idea.... I want to think what I should
> >know...I want you to do me what to show."
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: FreakBoy <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
> >
> >
> > >so who is going to harass this kid?  I know someone wants to
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> > >>Reply-To: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> > >>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > >>Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
> > >>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:13:49 -0400
> > >>
> > >>he's 11, didn't you listen??
> > >>
> > >>I think he's HOT*!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > >>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > yeah....mullet in full effect. What is he? Like 13?
> > >> >
> > >> > haha
> > >> >
> > >> > ricA
> > >> > Porch Honky Militia
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
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why is it I can't see the picture???    i wanna see the mullet!!!

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"please pm me <?> i am on yahoo chat"



> What the hell does he say? 
> 
> "Please ????????? ??? ??????????. Thanks for stopping by"
> 
> I played it several times and can't figure this out.
> 
> ricA
> Porch Honky Militant
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kasjogren [mailto:kasjogren@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 11:48 AM
> To: mw-raves
> Cc: kasjogren
> Subject: FW: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
> 
> 
> everyone at work is rolling on the ground after i played the wav
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>yes i think we should do this, have a big midwest personal ad section,
>that's great 13 yr olds lookin for love in all the wrong places, lookin for
>love with too many faces, a lonely whooo oh lookin for looooove


and i want to be the first to sign up.....that was so funny...after a long 
ass fukkin shitty day i am finally smiling...
i actually got spit at today...im wearing my cute little hat with the cute 
little pink mousey ears and this sad lookin old lady was walkin opposite me 
on the sidewalk on the way to work this morning...i decided i would smile at 
her and try to brighten her day (which took alot of effort considering it 
was approx 7:00 am) and she just looks at me and goes "who do you think 
youre fooling with that hat?"
and proceeds to spit at me and walk along her little way mumbling stuff to 
herself...
**forgot-to-take-her-st.johns wort-today-lora**

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>>he's 11, didn't you listen??
>>
>>I think he's HOT*!

i would totally *go with* this guy...
**lora**
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 17:22:36 1999
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great.  anyone want to move on?
please?

chad

_          
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414299wako

if you feel the need to get funky... by all fucking means, do so.
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this is the best thread EVER


>From: ".chad sponholz." <chad@hyperreal.org>
>Reply-To: ".chad sponholz." <chad@hyperreal.org>
>To: "pay attention." <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Hello My Future Girlfriend
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>great.  anyone want to move on?
>please?
>
>chad
>
>_
>chad@hyperreal.org
>http://www.hyperreal.org/~chad
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>
>if you feel the need to get funky... by all fucking means, do so.
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Liquid Groove presents...

THE LIQUID GROOVE 5 YEAR ANNIVERSARY 5.1

Saturday October 30th 1999
Atlanta GA


-Over the past 5 years, LG has introduced Atlanta to the
cream of global musical talent. Following tradition...This years
highly anticipated event, 5 years being our most significant
anniversary thus far, we've decided to make it extra special -
2 incredible celebrations, i week apart, in 2 seperate locations.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~DJ'S~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Main Room:

Back for another anniversary session, needing no 
introduction, the legendary...

- S A S H A
  *Playing an extended  4 hour set
  2:00 - 6:00


- T H O M A S
  (Wicked Crew, 360 SF) 6:00 - close
  A rare treat for our 5 year anniversary. Introducing the man some say
  brought the original Dub Funk sound to the west coast. Thomas
  incorporates anything from twisted house to sonic funk.


- J I M M Y  V A N  M A L L E G H E M 
  (Balance, Twilo, NYC) 12:30 - 2:00
  Head man over at the well respected Balance promote group. He also
  runs Euros Euphony as well as being a jet setting twilo resident. Get
  ready for Jimmys return to LG.


- K A Z E L L 
  (Liquid Groove, LA) 11:00 - 12:30
  No anniversary would be complete without our original rude boy!


Room: 2

- J - M A J I K  &  M C  M C
  (Metalheadz, Infra Red Recs, UK)
  The man Goldie calls "The Luke Skywalker of Drum and Bass"
  J-Majik has been dishing out some serious tunage for the
  last 6 years is on the Infra Red tour promoting "Night Visions"
  that will be released in November. Check out "Night Visions" at
  peoplesounds.com


- T I M E S T R E T C H
   (Advance Recordings, Boston)
  The notorious DJ/Producer behind Advance recordings makes
  his first appearance in Atlanta showing why he is one of americas
  most upfront Drum and Bass DJ's.


- R O B B I E  B.
  (Dubwarz, Genetix, Atlanta)


- H Y S T
  (break_fast, Atlanta)


- J - M O O D A
  (Speaker Junkies, Atlanta)


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~INFORMATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

*FULL TURBOSOUND RIGS IN BOTH ROOMS
*18 and up welcome with ID
*GENUINE Full Color Animated 3d laser show by P.A.W.N.
*Doors open at 11:00 pm - 9:00 AM
*Full themed decor thoughout

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~LOCATION~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Studio Central
150 Central Ave.
Downtown Atlanta GA
Corner of Central Ave and Memorial Dr.

Directions:

>From the North:
Go I-75/85 south into downtown to
Exit #93 (Martin luther king dr exit)
Go straight off the exit. Go straight
to Washington St. and go left. Go to
the 3rd light (Memorial dr.) and go
right. Venue is 1 block on the right.


>From the South:
Go I-75/85 north to exit 91
(Fulton st./Central Ave downtown exit)
Follow sign reading Central Ave/Ga Dome.
Go to the 2nd stop light (Memorial Dr.)
venue is on the left.


>From the West:
Go I-20 east to Exit 24
(Windsor st./Spring st./Turner Field exit)
Go straight off the exit to your third
stop light (central ave.) and go left.
Go to your first light (Memorial dr)
Venue is on the left.


>From the East:
I-20 west to Exit 24 (Capitol Ave/downtown/Ga dome exit)
Go to your first light (Capitol Ave) and
go right. Go to your 1st light (Memorial dr.)
and go left. Go to your 2nd light (Central ave)
Venue is on the right.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~TICKET PRICE AND INFO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Limited amount of presales for $22
$25 dollars after and @ the door.

Buy tickets ONLY from these stores

Wish   404-880-0402
Wish  770-814-0940
Rewind  404-827-9463
Satellite 404-880-9746
Spins (NC) 336-274-8530
Faith Records (TN)615-726-3700
Bad Seed (AL) 205-933-7333
Big Apple Music (SC) 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy (AL) 256-534-3198
R.P.M. (GA) 912-234-0093
Knee Deep (NC) 704-335-0442

or you can mail order tickets. To mail order tickets 
call 404-257-2515 and leave message saying you need 
to mail order tickets and someone will call you back
with instructions on how to mail order.


Upcoming events:

11/6/99 - Josh Wink, Dieselboy, Dara, Simply Jeff + more t.b.a. @ Nike
11/27/99 - Special Line-up t.b.a.
12/4/99 - t.b.a.
12/11/99 The return of BEYOND in NC
12/31/99 - Liquified Pleazure 2000
1/15/2000
1/22/2000
2/14/2000


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I think the people on this list need to reevaluate their fucking
priorities.  Someone posts a couple messages about millions of
oppressed HUMAN BEINGS being stoned, beaten, and mistreated on the
other side of the world.  People go apeshit about not rave related
stuff coming from the list.  On the other hand, some honky-tonk 12
year old from Wyoming and his silly homepage have managed to clog my
mailbox in the last two hours.  Obviously there's some pertinence to
what we're SUPPOSED to be discussing here.  Does the kid party?  Take
drugs?  Like techno music?  Oh... maybe because on first glance you
can tell he's an exceptional DORK that made you people think he had
something (in common?) we should be discussing.  

Maybe I'm just cranky

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 18:58:03 1999
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ok i'll bite....where you gonna be?  :-)

At 11:45 PM 9/15/99 -0700, Stan Doublin wrote:
>I know where I'll be on the 25th!
>
>
>
>--- FUNK enterprises <funkenterprises@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Saturday, September 25                          
>> Indianapolis      FUNK 
>> enterprises invites you to enroll.....
>> 
>> ---------------------------COLLEGE---------------------------------
>> 
>> your audio professors:
>> 
>> Dan Efex-Chicago
>> Jeffree Dee-FUNK enterprises, Milwaukee
>> Matt Bandy-SUBterror/Alien Squad, Lexington
>> Gizzmo-SUBterror, Kokomo
>> Jay-C   -Dynamic Groove, Milwaukee
>> Top Speed-Crush Entertainment, Indianaoplis
>> DJ Tsar-Level 9.0/K-Krew, Evansville
>> Bodaleg-Boogie Nights, St. Louis
>> Tim Krochalk-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
>> Christina-Docile, Indianapolis
>> Nate the Natural-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
>> DJ Booth-Garage Prod, Louisville
>> Matt Aiden-FUNK enterprises, Indianapolis
>> 
>> this will be held in a multi-level venue w/ two
>> rooms of sound
>> Lighting by Light Fantastik
>> 
>> FUNK enterprises 317.375.7744        Kindred Groove
>> 314.995.9215
>>          Indianapolis                            St.
>> Louis
>> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 19:08:58 1999
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> ....YOU NOT ONLY NOTICE THAT THE HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES LIKE WASHING
>    MACHINES CAN GENERATE A FUNKY BEAT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ARGUE ABOUT
>    WHETHER IT'S JUNGLE OR TRANCE

Ok, I had a thought, and this continues an old thread on
mw-raves(?)...I think...oh damn, I can't keep this email straight
anymore...anyway-

Has anyone ever heard anyone sample any of the Windows sounds?  The
default startup & shutdown are kind of trancey- they were done by
Brian Eno I think (just some random trivia that you probably don't
care about- too bad).  Maybe I've just got too much damn time on my
hands, but I've been causing errors all morning to the point of
getting a fairly steady beep from the error noise.

It's time for my medication...
spencer

--- Free K <fre_que1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>        YOU KNOW YOU ARE A RAVER WHEN.......
> 
> ....YOU HAVE SLEEPING PATTERNS THAT WOULD KILL NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS
> 
> ....YOU START TO CONVERT ALL YOUR DAD'S OLD 1977 POLYESTER
> SWEATSUITS
> 
> ....ALMOST EVERY LETTER IN THE ALPHABET HAS AN ALTERNATIVE MEANING
> TO
>    YOU
> 
> ....YOU BEGIN TO THINK OF BLOWPOPS AS A SEPERATE FOOD GROUP
> 
> ....THE ODOMETER ON YOUR CAR INCREASES IN BIG CHUNKS OVER THE
> WEEKEND
> 
> ....YOU GET AN EVIL GRIN EVERYTIME YOU SEE THE COMMERCIALS FOR "E"
>    THE ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK
> 
> ....YOU CAN KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE,"REALLY,NOT
>    THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE ON ANYTHING...I'M SERIOUS!"
> 
> ....FOOD,WATER,AIR,AND VICK'S...ALL ARE ABOUT EQUAL IMPORTANCE
> 
> ....YOU CAN LIVE FOR AN ENTIRE WEEKEND OUT OF YOUR BOOKBAG
> 
> ....YOU ARE NO LONGER JUST A RAVER...BUT ALSO A
>    PROMOTER,DJ,VENDOR,ECT.
> 
> ....YOU HAVE TROUBLE NAMING FIVE FRIENDS WHO ARE NOT PIERCED
>    SOMEWHERE!
> 
> ....YOU'LL PAY $20 FOR A TICKET TO A PARTY THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN AND
>    $30 FOR A PILL THAT MAY VERY WELL BE ASPRIN, BUT YOU WILL NOT
> PAY $2 FOR
> THAT BOTTLE OF WATER
> 
> ....YOU NOT ONLY NOTICE THAT THE HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES LIKE WASHING
>    MACHINES CAN GENERATE A FUNKY BEAT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ARGUE ABOUT
>    WHETHER IT'S JUNGLE OR TRANCE
> 
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get ahold of the mushgroove posse, he is down wit them
773.509.6869


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>If anybody knows how I can contact this guy please let me know.  
>Phone #?  E-Mail?  I need to ask him something.
>Thanks.
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Subject: [az-raves] NRR:  Condoms

I thought this was funny but kinda sick.  Thought some of you would have a use for this:



National Condom Week

             YOU WILL EXPERIENCE GREAT SEX WITHIN FOUR DAYS
OF RECEIVING THIS
             LETTER, PROVIDED YOU SEND IT ON.

             LIST OF POSSIBLE SLOGANS PROMOTING NATIONAL
CONDOM WEEK

             1.      COVER YOUR STUMP BEFORE U HUMP

             2.      BEFORE YOU ATTACK HER, WRAP YOUR
WHACKER

             3.      DON'T BE SILLY, PROTECT YOUR WILLY

             4.      WHEN IN DOUBT, SHROUD YOUR SPOUT

             5.      DON'T BE A LONER, COVER YOUR BONER

             6.      YOU CAN'T GO WRONG IF YOU SHIELD YOUR
DONG

             7.      IF YOU'RE NOT GOIN TO SACK IT, GO HOME
AND WHACK IT

             8.      IF YOU THINK SHE'S SPUNKY, COVER YOUR
MONKEY

             9.      IF YOU SLIP BETWEEN HER THIGHS, BE SURE
TO CONDOMIZE

             10.     IT WILL BE SWEETER IF YOU WRAP YOUR
PETER

             11.     SHE WON'T GET SICK IF YOU WRAP YOUR
DICK

             12.     IF YOU GO IN HEAT, PACKAGE YOUR MEAT

             13.     WHILE YOU'RE UNDRESSING VENUS, DRESS UP
YOUR PENIS

             14.     WHEN YOU TAKE OFF HER PANTS AND BLOUSE,

                       ZIP UP YOUR  TROUSER  MOUSE

             15.     ESPECIALLY IN DECEMBER, GIFT WRAP YOUR
MEMBER

             16.     NEVER, NEVER DECK HER WITH AN UNWRAPPED
PECKER

             17.     DON'T BE A FOOL, VULCANIZE YOUR TOOL

             18.     THE RIGHT SELECTION WILL PROTECT YOUR
ERECTION

             19.     WRAP IT IN FOIL BEFORE CHECKING HER OIL


             20.     A CRANK WITH ARMOR WILL NEVER HARM HER

             21.     NO GLOVE, NO LOVE!

             22.      IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IT OFF, HAVE IT
ON


              Since the copy must tour the world, you must
make ten
copiehours.
           and send them to others. This is no joke. Send no
money. Send
copies to people

           You have been selected to receive this letter
because the person
who sent this to you either thinks you need good luck, they
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                   IF YOU SEND THIS LETTER TO:
              - 0 people, your life will be a living hell
              - 1-3 people, your  relationship will be fun
but won't last long
              - 4-6 people, someone will get a crush on you
              - 7-10 people, you will get messed up on
Friday night
              - 11-14 people, some girl/guy will ask for
your number
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your dreams
              - 20-24 people, someone will ask you out
              - 25-29 people, your relationship will last
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Got this from homey the clown....thought I'd share

ricA

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 10:33 AM
To: richard.shebestak
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Subject: AC's best ways to mack da honeys


Went out last night, blitzed.

     Was in a pub and I went up to a pretty girl and said

     Me: 'excuse me, can you get me some toilet roll out the girls 
toilet
     please, coz ther isnt any in the boys and Ive got diarohea'

     Girl: 'no' or something

     Me: 'bah' so I go to the bar and pretend to get some netty roll and
     run to the bog.

     I come back
     Girl: 'feel better now?'
     Me: 'Yes, but me shit keeps running out me bot, have you got a 
tampon
     I can stick up there'
     Girl 'yak'

     I goes of then comes back

     Me: 'that was a poor chat up line'

     Girl: 'yes, is that you best'

     Me: 'Ha, ill gget straight to the point - U wanna come back to mine
     and suck me big cock'

     Girl: lamped is in the ear, bahhh



toodles

AC
P.E.G.S.
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i would laugh if i understood it.

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spencer wrote:

> > ....YOU NOT ONLY NOTICE THAT THE HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES LIKE WASHING
> >    MACHINES CAN GENERATE A FUNKY BEAT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ARGUE ABOUT
> >    WHETHER IT'S JUNGLE OR TRANCE
>
> Ok, I had a thought, and this continues an old thread on
> mw-raves(?)...I think...oh damn, I can't keep this email straight
> anymore...anyway-
>

Oh yeah speaking of all this don't you guys trip when you have one of your
discs in and it scratches on a beat for like a four count and then goes back
to normal and you're like "damn, that was a perfect break beat" i love that.
I would also like to sample a modem dial up and throw it in a tune, how
sweet is that. Oh and Derek most of my messages don't make that much sense,
but im a talking heads fan, and like their album says "stop making
sense."         phil


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 Anyone goin to pillow talk in indy saturday night?  Just curious..

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> On the other hand, some honky-tonk 12
> year old from Wyoming and his silly homepage have managed to clog my
> mailbox in the last two hours.
--
clog your mailbox? you connecting with a 9600bps modem or something? i'm on
28.8 and they've been zipping in and right to the trash faster than i can
say mullet.

> Maybe I'm just cranky
--
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now drop your shit and rave.
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That is fucking exactly what im talking about. I sent shit to that list
in hopes that i could contribute to relieving(sp?) some oppresion in this
world. I love electronic music but it does not consume me...my priorities
are straight, and i don not have MULLET. I think that im all right for
being that way. So Im right with you brother. So maybe im just pissed and
cranky too, well fuck that, i am pissed and cranky and i fucking hate
everyone. I want to grab my shotgun and just go plain fucking buck nutty.
I hope my girls in the same mindset so we can be pissed together. Oh and
hey O.G. damiani, since we're on the same frequency hit this url
up...http://www.thehungersite.com/thankyou-cgi-ht1.html..... everytime
you go to this site and hit the button corporate sponsors, or so they
say, feed a hungry person througout the world. Ill be around and if
anyone would like to register to vote talk to me and we will see what we
can do to get anyone who isn't in the swing of things where they need to
be. I hope all of this political action isn't frightening anyone, and
even if it did i really don't give a fuck. All who really are interested
can hit me up.     Phil

Griggles wrote:

> I think the people on this list need to reevaluate their fucking
> priorities.  Someone posts a couple messages about millions of
> oppressed HUMAN BEINGS being stoned, beaten, and mistreated on the
> other side of the world.  People go apeshit about not rave related
> stuff coming from the list.  On the other hand, some honky-tonk 12
> year old from Wyoming and his silly homepage have managed to clog my
> mailbox in the last two hours.  Obviously there's some pertinence to
> what we're SUPPOSED to be discussing here.  Does the kid party?  Take
> drugs?  Like techno music?  Oh... maybe because on first glance you
> can tell he's an exceptional DORK that made you people think he had
> something (in common?) we should be discussing.
>
> Maybe I'm just cranky
>
> greg
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DAMMIT!!!! THE PAGE WON LOAD FER ME!!!!!

this is almost as bad as not having a cable remote!!!

I WANNA SEE THE MULLET!!!!
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It's gone now, I wanted to send a link to my mom at her work..  but it's not 
even there.    :(

Jen

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Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:

> It's gone now, I wanted to send a link to my mom at her work..  but
> it's not
> even there.    :(
>

WWHAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

> Jen
>
> bring on the "fat chicks in party hats"

  i_GUESS_!!

dey don got no mullets dough......

*sniff*

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>It's gone now, I wanted to send a link to my mom at her work..  but 
it's not 
>even there.    :(

Yeah....I get "Shugashack sucks :)"

wasssup wit dat?

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>http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu/~broncobh/
>
>I was thinking of doing this myself, any comments? HOHOHOHO


welp... it's gone and all it says now is "Shugashack sucks :) "


????


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> welp... it's gone and all it says now is "Shugashack sucks :) "

Yeah, I don't know what the deal is, maybe he got a girlfriend!

I guess we all win in the end...

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> >http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu
now says...
GOA WAY
no way....way...
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Jim SeKoch wrote:

> IMPORTANT MESSAGE:
>
> Please spare a minute to read this mail.  Thank you.
>
> The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women.  The situation is
> getting so bad that one person in an editorial of the New York Times
> compared the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in
> pre-Holocaust Poland.
>

<<<snip snip>>>

> Angela King, Special Advisor on Gender Issues and the Advancement of Women,
> United Nations
> daw@undp.org
>
> Even if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill the
> petition.  Thank you.  It is best to copy rather than forward the petition.

why in the fuck is this being posted on mw-raves for the second day in a
row...this is definently NOT RAVE RELATED and do you really think that by
signing this anything's going to change, the only way anything changes is by
active protest/resistence, not by typing your name on some internet chain mail
and patting yourself on the back think "i am such a humanitarian"...also i think
we ought to take care of the oppressed women right here in our own country, i.e.
battered and sexually discriminated against, before we go trying to help some
far off third world country

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All government, all law and authority finally rests on force & violence,
on punishment or fear of punishment...
TEAR IT DOWN & LET THE TRUTH BEGIN!!!   F.T.W.

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 21:10:45 1999
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You know i think the world would be a whole better of a place to live if 
John Locke's social contract was required reading


>From: Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani <blitz666@uswest.net>
>Reply-To: Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani <blitz666@uswest.net>
>To: The Shit List <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>CC: Jim SeKoch <boppity@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mw] PLEASE take a minute to read...
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:08:37 -0500
>
>Jim SeKoch wrote:
>
> > IMPORTANT MESSAGE:
> >
> > Please spare a minute to read this mail.  Thank you.
> >
> > The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women.  The situation 
>is
> > getting so bad that one person in an editorial of the New York Times
> > compared the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in
> > pre-Holocaust Poland.
> >
>
><<<snip snip>>>
>
> > Angela King, Special Advisor on Gender Issues and the Advancement of 
>Women,
> > United Nations
> > daw@undp.org
> >
> > Even if you decide not to sign, please be considerate and do not kill 
>the
> > petition.  Thank you.  It is best to copy rather than forward the 
>petition.
>
>why in the fuck is this being posted on mw-raves for the second day in a
>row...this is definently NOT RAVE RELATED and do you really think that by
>signing this anything's going to change, the only way anything changes is 
>by
>active protest/resistence, not by typing your name on some internet chain 
>mail
>and patting yourself on the back think "i am such a humanitarian"...also i 
>think
>we ought to take care of the oppressed women right here in our own country, 
>i.e.
>battered and sexually discriminated against, before we go trying to help 
>some
>far off third world country
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>As long as government exists...PEACE CANNOT
>All government, all law and authority finally rests on force & violence,
>on punishment or fear of punishment...
>TEAR IT DOWN & LET THE TRUTH BEGIN!!!   F.T.W.
>
>I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
>and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
>your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
>I am chaos.  I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.
>
>http://www.users.uswest.net/~blitz666
>ICQ# 23795954
>Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/23795954
>AOL Instant Messenger: blitzgrafx
>
>bLiTz
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 21:11:27 1999
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fight crime, suppress evil!  you go girl  :)

pj

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> Where there is pain, we wish you peace and mercy.

Wherever there is injustice, you will find us...

wherever there is suffering, we'll be there...

Wherever liberty is threatened, you will find

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 21:29:36 1999
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> > >http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu
>now says...
>GOA WAY


damn pussy trance dj's!!!!!!


grrrr...


tres
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 22:00:59 1999
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Ok, I'm on my way home so this'll have to be quick, but I actually
HAVE a track somewhere where they sample to modem dial up- and it
works REALLY well.  I'll try to dig it up.

building a better network,
spencer

--- Phil Pompa <ac5861@wayne.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> spencer wrote:
> 
> > > ....YOU NOT ONLY NOTICE THAT THE HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES LIKE
> WASHING
> > >    MACHINES CAN GENERATE A FUNKY BEAT, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ARGUE
> ABOUT
> > >    WHETHER IT'S JUNGLE OR TRANCE
> >
> > Ok, I had a thought, and this continues an old thread on
> > mw-raves(?)...I think...oh damn, I can't keep this email straight
> > anymore...anyway-
> >
> 
> Oh yeah speaking of all this don't you guys trip when you have one
> of your
> discs in and it scratches on a beat for like a four count and then
> goes back
> to normal and you're like "damn, that was a perfect break beat" i
> love that.
> I would also like to sample a modem dial up and throw it in a tune,
> how
> sweet is that. Oh and Derek most of my messages don't make that
> much sense,
> but im a talking heads fan, and like their album says "stop making
> sense."         phil
> 
> 

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doesn't doormouse's aol track already sample the modem dialup sound, along
w/ a buncha other aol-related crappe?  (welcome.  you have mail.) maybe
it's not doormouse's track, but it's on one of his tapes.  whatever.  
point is, it exists.  so there.


On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, spencer wrote:

> Ok, I'm on my way home so this'll have to be quick, but I actually
> HAVE a track somewhere where they sample to modem dial up- and it
> works REALLY well.  I'll try to dig it up.

> > love that.
> > I would also like to sample a modem dial up and throw it in a tune,
> > how
> > sweet is that. 




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 23:25:22 1999
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Guess we wasted the poor kids bandwidth for the month!!!!


Now he'll never get a chick, and it's all our fucking fault!!!!


derek.

(im done after that one!!!)

"I want specifics on the general idea.... I want to think what I should
know...I want you to do me what to show."


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>> > >http://www.oakland.edu/~ksdeleeu
>>now says...
>>GOA WAY
>
>
>damn pussy trance dj's!!!!!!
>
>
>grrrr...
>
>
>tres
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 16 23:34:49 1999
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>Guess we wasted the poor kids bandwidth for the month!!!!
>
>derek.


actually we didnt.  this thread has been on the internet and spreading like 
wildfire for over a week.  i think it originated on a quake server, probly 
blues news...

peace,

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> Help me out here as there are many different people
> into different things!
> Just what style of Hardcore would you like more of?
> Happycore, Trancecore, Gabber.. what floats your 
> boat and why?

hi brisk! =] i have your happyhardcorefoundation cd!
it's really cool. what is trancecore? is it like a
combination of trance + hardcore? i'm not the biggest
fan of trance, i like to hear it once in a while
(pretty + melodic trance or hard trance) + i do. but i
don't hear enough happy hardcore or plain hardcore. i
like happy hardcore that is super happy and fast and
hard and stompy and has lots of breakbeats. i like
plain hardcore if it sounds dark + evil or has
breakbeats or both. i don't like them combined though
(like happy gabber/partycore, etc.).
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can anyone send me an email address or phone number of professional
tape vendors i can hook up with?  im looking for some recent chicago
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I just thought I'd share this link with everybody. I haven't read it all but
what I have read, it is VERY good reading.

http://www.hooked.net/~donut/imaginal.html

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 01:41:35 1999
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hey any househeads know of any recent tapes out i need to look for and
if you can hook me up with an email address or phone #thnxXX mrk

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RaVeR 1420:  will you do me a favor? 
 DJangelboi:     sure 
 RaVeR 1420:     at your 'jungle party' mix in some raffi 
 RaVeR 1420:     baby beluga 
 DJangelboi:     raffi? who? 
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day 
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 RaVeR 1420:     ask mw-raves 
 DJangelboi:     i know who raffi is.. 
 DJangelboi:     i'm not a frickin' happy hardcore DJ, jeez 
 RaVeR 1420:     see thats not happy hardcore, it hasnt been used 17,039 
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is anyone going to mental in minnesota this weekend?  i need a ride if you 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 02:43:19 1999
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check out www.synthzone.com and www.hitsquad.com for demo and shareware.

xo
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>ok, i have this one called TB2000, it's inspired by the 303, it's a
>shareware program, and you can make some fucked up noises with it.  the
>reg fee is $20, not bad.  go here:
> http://www.demonweb.co.uk/c3sys/index1.htm
>they have like 3 soft synth programs on there, there is timbre wolf, and
>some other one that is a virtual polysynth.  all of them are $20.  you
>can't record any noises until you pay the $20 (unless you can crack the
>program.  they are all for windows.
>for other windows synth programs go here and poke around:
> http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Windows/software_synthesizers.html
>
>for mac synth shit go here:
> http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac/software_synthesizers.html
>hope this helps!
>--
>-jared (a.k.a. dj nickel)
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i believe that tour (mixer t.g.i.m.) is coming in october...also, look out
for the moonshine over america tour in october in one of the most intimate
settings of the tour...check the lor trout sent out for the exact
date...lift is the club night, dv8 is the current venue for the lift club
nights...it has been in different venues around the city over the past 3-4
years but the theme is the same...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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> i thought the mixmag tour with dj craze, banco de gaia, and sdf-one was
> gonna be at lift/dv8 on the 23rd.  what up?
>
> "Thursday Sept 23rd: From Formation Records: DJ-SS and MC Warren G
> w/Jeremiah at Club DV8 on Walnut in Cincinnati."
>
> and whats the deal wth the whole dv8/lift ting?  same club different
> nights?
>
> thanx
> jim
>
> Life9@webtv.net
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aight:

this is juanna dem wack-down-a-case-o-beast-an-take-care-a-all-16
messages-in-me-reply-box-an-whatever-else-i-feel-like-fartinin-out-nights.

....prepare yoseffz fo a barrage from whoever i am tonight.

don't hate me because i'm beautiful,
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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) doris <dpayer@umich.edu> writes:
>doesn't doormouse's aol track already sample the modem dialup sound, 
>along w/ a buncha other aol-related crappe?  (welcome.  you have mail.) 
>maybe it's not doormouse's track, but it's on one of his tapes. 
whatever.  
>
>point is, it exists.  so there.

ummm... Doormouse, Distort #002.  I believe the "unofficial" name to be
"Cult of AOL"

yet anutha rekkid that dica does not have... hehehe  t;)

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you boys and your fuckin beer...i am going to settle down with a few 
screwdivers ,a bong... and well probally m vibrartor 'cause ia m always 
horny when im on my rag :P

whendee




>aight:
>
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>messages-in-me-reply-box-an-whatever-else-i-feel-like-fartinin-out-nights.
>
>....prepare yoseffz fo a barrage from whoever i am tonight.
>
>don't hate me because i'm beautiful,
>--aRNO
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>np: Misfits -Earth A.D.
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>in the room. Big bag of fuckin' drugs, a couple of fuckin'
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Well, I suppose it's time to sample the life of Wisconsin.
If anyone here has seen any of the performers that are going to be in Eau 
Claire on the 25th please leave a post about how they are.  I really don't 
feel like going and forking over $26 ($25 with a can) to see people who just 
can't spin.  I'm sure you can all relate.




Thanks, and keep the party going.




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Full Spectrum Chicago
773.509.6343
cause we got the fresh stuff!.

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Subject: [mw] does anyone know any reliable tape vendors to sell me chicago
house


>can anyone send me an email address or phone number of professional
>tape vendors i can hook up with?  im looking for some recent chicago
>house mxtpsXXXXmrk
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shhhhhew.

as a flat-out-party-core-reprazent motherfucker in de past, an juan who
still digs a bangin-ass partycore set, yet rawks-out to alla dem
twisted-ass hell-core breakbeat motherfuckers.......

i muss start off by sayin dat i'm spoiled like Yoplait-yogurt in da sun
fer a week; my defo (-nition) of hardcore is what i'm priveledged to
hear on an almost weekly basis from de likes of dan doormouse &
anonymous.....that kinda beatin leads to furthur local addictions ala
abelcain (davros), substanceP, unibomber, and yes, even poor ol
stuntroawk. i like my hardcore to sexemplify the fucking word
"HARDCORE", which no HH choon has ever had da ballz ta do, no matter how
many effects have been applied to da juno 101 while remixed wif crap-ass
pop-tunes. IMHO, alla da flat-out whoop-a-wherewolf-witha-belt choons
dat i've heard, have been "gear independant", meaning dat da artist
throws down, as opposed to da drum machine/and/or da song dat's remixed.
i admidt that me lack of sexposure to HH may bias me opinion, but so far
all i've heard was re-hashed drums over re-hashed crap-ass songs that
sucked big giant elephant dicks to begin wif.

oh, sorry. i fergot about adding a juno 101 line.....;]

i would like to see/hear/feel more core ala traffik, doormouse, sonic
overkill, torgull, unibomber, total output, sub-urbane, stella
michelson, memetic, xylocaine, lasse steen (et. all) i.e. people who
fucking MEAN IT!!!!!

not chumps who run a 909 @ 180bpm an call it hardcore yo.

...i feel like i just stepped out of a salon,
--aRNO
 
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01101111 01001000 11001011

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<jaw drops>

That is completley..  retarded.



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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:04:50 CDT whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com> wrote:
you boys and your fuckin beer...i am going to settle down with a few  screwdivers ,a bong... and well probally m vibrartor 'cause ia m always horny when im on my rag :P

hm.  yeah all that stuff sounds purty good.  think i'll start out with the vibrator tho.  i ain't on the rag but i'm sure as hell horny.  =P

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Anyone on here live by carbondale that is goin to "got vibe" in st.
louis??? My ride just punked out on me and now i'm screwed...please
please please help me out here..I will love you forever


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 05:56:28 1999
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I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight and 
had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is out there...


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WHAT  WE  LOVE  ABOUT  RAVES 

~Glowing teeth under fluorescent lights. 

~People who dance with glowsticks. 

~Being in your mom's car and hearing the -BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM- when the place 
is still 5 minutes away. 

~The smell of baby powder. 

~People who pass water around especially when I really need it. 

~Dancing around backpack piles. 

~Using whistles to hype up the crowd. 

~"Facing off" with someone on the dance floor and getting a smile. 

~Dancing in front of a massive speaker stack, and watching your shirt flutter 
with every beat. 

~Walking out of a dusty warehouse at 8:00 am, feeling the sun on your face, 
and looking up at a clear blue sky. 

~When people come over to you and go "Dude, what are you on?? You gotta be 
the happiest guy in here." 

~Trancing watching people dance when the whole crowd moves like a wave. 

~Getting about a million goose bumps the moment before a song absolutely
explodes with energy. 

~That cold rush when you put Vap-o-rub on your face. 

~People who bring in backpacks full of "rave goodies" (Blowpops, bottled 
water that is actually cold, pixy sticks, glitter, etc.). 

~Looking around the floor when you're dancing and knowing that every one of 
those people is having as much fun as you. 

~Reaching for the lasers, seeing if you can hold one, just to make sure you 
aren't tripping. 

~How I sit in skool and dream about the weekend and how Chill the summer is 
gonna be. 

~How lasers bounce off reflective sunglasses up on yo head. 

~When they go to about 9 in the morning so I don't have to sit and wait for 
my mom to pick me up. 

~When people that you have never seen treat you like their best friend. 

~Smart drinks. 

~Talking to a newcomer, then seeing him almost every weekend after that. 

~Getting "sprinkled" with water and getting a chill cause it was unexpected. 

~Dancing to some hardcore, trying to keep up with the music even though itis 
impossible. Giving it all your energy. 

~Going out of my way to tell the DJs that they are really good. 

~Feeling like you could run a few miles the last 10 minutes of a rave, then 
falling asleep on the way home. 

~Having breakfast the morning after with friends, and the waitress going "you 
kids didn't sleep well last nite did ya?" if she only knew...... 

~The "I am deaf for life" feeling as you are walking out. 

~Singing disco songs on the way to and from the party. 

~Preaching my opinions on techno and stuff for no reason, then realizing that 
no one can hear me cause it is to loud and they weren't just ignoring me! 

~Walking out of that dark place and into the sunshine in the morning, being 
glad your sunglasses were waiting for this moment up on yo head all night.
 

~Knowing what that person who just bumped into you is about to say. You 
saying it before they do. 

~Hysterically laughing for no reason. 

~Leaving your backpack somewhere for 2 hours, then coming back to see that it 
wasn't moved or even opened. 

~Watching people talk to walls and speakers and stuff. 

~Going into deep thought about how the place has more sweaty people then gym 
class and why it smells so much better than a locker room. 

~Singing cheesy songs in line and before you know it there are about a 
hundred or so kids singing along. 

~Having burping contests with your friends while on line. 

~When the asthma kids pass around those prescription inhalers. 

~When you can yell out "my friend is puking anyone have any candy??" and 5 
hands will shoot up in the air above the crowd with pixie stix and suckers... 

~Going to Chene park after the party (a park in detroit) and seeing 50 or so 
other raver kids already there, and more show up.. just to hang out for 
awhile.. 

~Walking through a hallway and meeting about 20 new people that you hang with 
at every party after that.. 

~Socializing in the nitrous line. 

~Using flyers when there's no toilet paper just because you dont care. 

~Seeing one of your friends, not on any drugs, just start crying in the 
middle of the dancefloor because the party is SO GOOD and he doesn't know 
what to do.. 

~A smile from across the room has a different meaning.. 

~Knowing that if you are in any trouble, any amount of those kids that you 
don't know will come and help you.. 

~Going to the packard plant for a party and later comparing black boogers and 
rave gunk rings in the bathroom at Dennys in the morning.. 

~Walking in and seeing everyone you know and you feel so cool because all the 
kids are your friends..

~You can ask someone for a drink of their water and they wont look at you 
like a crazy stranger.. they smile and pass it over.. 

~When you're puking in the bathroom and some girl come in there, shuts you in 
with her, and pees while talking to you because you're sitting on the floor 
about to puke again.. 

~Just the feeling of "if they only knew.. while they were all asleep.." 

~Standing in the shower the next morning being able to close your eyes and be 
back at the party, as black grime, and rave smell washes down the drain. 

~Trying to explain to your parents what that damn party smell actually 
consists of....and why you like it so much.. 

~Knowing that you aren't having a siezure and it's just those damn strobe 
lights. 

~Being able to hear the bass thumping in your brain long after you've left 
the party. 

~Leaving with half eaten ring pops on your finger and half empty candy 
necklaces around your neck. 

~Being so excited to see the people that you haven't seen in so long...even 
though to this day you still don't know their name. 

~Feeling that while you're in the partee, that you're in a completely
different world than is outside (it's a dream world).

~Walking up to a complete stranger just to tell them "I think you're cute" 
and not have them give you a strange look, like you were trying to pick them 
up or something..nah, I was just being nice.

~Eating at Perkins with your brain making the sickest music ever after a 
party.

~Throwing a party and realizing how many friends you've made because of this 
music.

~Seeing the same kids at three different parties in three different states.

~That moment when someone you've seen a million times smiles at you and comes 
over and starts talking to you for the first time.

~Free parties.

~Strangers who come up to you and tell you that they love the way you dance.

~Random hugs.

~Going to another city for a party and meeting people who ask you if you need 
a place to crash afterwords.

~The person who took you to your first party.

~Knowin' that any raver boy will pretend to be your boifriend when big scary 
icky guys, who don't belong at parties in their stoned washed jeans & 
metalica t-shirts try to pick you up.

~Learning some strangers entire life story before the nite is over.

~Answering someone elses' whistle call from across the room and you can't see 
who the other person is.

~Catching the distinct smell of weed and looking around hoping to mooch a 
hit, but no one appears to be smoking in the vicinity...

~Going out at midnite thinking that everyone elses' nite is ending, and yours 
hasn't even begun yet.

~Getting all excited when you look at your watch and realise you have a good 
5 hours left, till you have to go to the afterhours that is.

~Going up to someone on the floor all hunched over, with their head in there 
hands, to ask them if they are ok....And they say they are having the best 
time of their life.

~That inevitable decision, you can get just one more pill, but you won't have 
gas money or food money for the next 3 days.

~You have no money, and someone splits a pill with you, just because you 
would of done the same.

~The feeling that no one is rolling, but when you take a pill, suddenly 
everybody is rolling.

~Going home and emptying your pockets and finding lollipop wrappers, and more 
wrappers, and more wrappers.

~Having someone run up to you all excited yelling "oh my gawd, i haven't seen 
you in so long" ....and you have absolutely no clue who they are..... (play 
along, at least they're happy)

~When the DJ drops the tightest song, and making eye contact with someone 
else who loves the song just as much.

~When someone gives you the best plastic bead bracelet because they thought 
you were cute, or you just needed it.

~Discussing the deep sentimental value of each piece of plastic jewelery on 
your body.

~That same beat that keeps replaying in your head 3 hours after you've left.

~Knowing the stories about how everyone got those weird nicknames, like Sink, 
Fern, Cherry, and Lollee.



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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, whendee mesich wrote: >... screwdivers ,a bong... and
well probally m vibrartor 'cause ia m always horny when im on my rag :P
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Wow.... I'm thinking that you might want some saran wrap, or a plastic
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>I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight and
>had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is out
there...


Actually, during .com's show wed night, I wandered into a REal Audio/video
cast of a female spinnin booty. It was groovetech radio or something.
Sounded good too. But I had to leave and listen to my man on da mic.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 07:00:21 1999
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seeing that it's on the day after my party...i'm gonna party like a rock star
"so there's gonna be a lot of coke and tight leather pants?"~matt
look for me...i'll be the twistecone...hahaha
caroline

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i'll be in mpls...for return of the medium size warehouse parties..."zodiak" 
with some honky dory trance =D
caroline

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since i've gotten more than a few phone calls, emails, and general questions 
about it... let me clarify it very matter of factly for the list and what 
not...

i will be appearing in MADISON on October 16th... i have signed contracts 
with the people in MADISON throwing in a people house... and this was the 
only booking i have clarified and will be attending.

any other parties that 'say' i am appearing are plainly put... not stating 
the truth.

thanks for your time and love to all

entro

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MadSkLLz79@aol.com said:

>i'll be in mpls...for return of the medium size warehouse parties..."zodiak"
>with some honky dory trance =D


"Honky dory trance"?  In MPLS?  Hmmm.. last I checked, MPLS was a 
major metropolitan area, and metro areas aren't particularly 
conducive to "honky dory trance".  However, if you're looking for a 
-real- honky tonk style party, a place like Eau Claire, Wisconsin 
would be the place to be, right?

Compare:

Eau Claire, WI:  Smallish WI, city.  Many farming communities in 
immediate vicinity.  Therefore, a likely location of a bona-fide 
"honky-tonk"

Minneapolis, MN:  Major metropolitan area, located in Minnesota, 
therefore, not a likely location.  Furthermore, Minnesota residents 
are typically not very well liked by honest to god, Wisconsin 
honkey-tonk types.

SO.. do you want to hang with the locals and experience the 
"Honkey-Tonk" thing in full effect?  Or, do you want to experience a 
pale faxcimilie therof?  You decide.  ; )



jaypee
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alright, check out this wonderful, prime example of how racism exists in
our judicial system....
beautiful article
check it out and get pissed....
 http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/00/02/news-emmers.shtml
by the way, this is an everyday occurence in these 2 cities.
also, in the lovely city of Irvine, CA the police like to pull you over
if your car is worth less than $7,000, has primer, stickers, or
generally doesn't look like it "belongs" in their city.
this is the sort of ugliness that occurs in my part of the states, and
the people responsible for doing this shit like to pretend that it
doesn't happen.
fuck em...
now it's in their face!

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-techno is my drug of choice
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> doesn't doormouse's aol track already sample the modem dialup sound, along
> w/ a buncha other aol-related crappe?  (welcome.  you have mail.) maybe
> it's not doormouse's track, but it's on one of his tapes.  whatever.
> point is, it exists.  so there.

it's on the Fuckin' Doormouse tape that Untranslatable carries...
it shows up on wax on Distort #2, but leaves off the extended intro with all
the carrier tones.

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I like distorted shit...for a couple of minutes. Other than that I like 
hardcore that sounds good. 

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Rice & Beans presents:

ULTRA-VIOLET
Saturday 9/18 - Bloomington IN

Mike Dearborn - Chicago
DJ Speedy - Las Vegas (techno/trance)
Skywalker - Buffalo/Nashville (trance)
d-phine - blgtn (breaks)
DJ Redman - E. Chicago (chi. house)
TopSpeed - Indy (hip-hop)
Double T - DC/blgtn (drum'n bass)
Varsha - blgtn (psy trance)
Adam Jay - Indy (techno)

2 stages/16,000+ watts of sound/custom lighting/lots of fans
$15 before midnight or w/ student ID
$20 otherwise

main info - 812.335.2034

****some of these people may not be confirmed...please call the
infoline for more info****


bom shankar!
--varsha

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varsha
varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu
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Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
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freeway!"

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i sure hope not.  cause if ANY female were ignorant enough to degrade
women as a direct result of laying a record on a platter (SHE would be the
direct cause for insults to women being broadcast on a massive speaker),
i'd have to come lay the smackdown on her.
or, if she really were the female version of dj funk, she'd be dead
anyway.  which would be good.
ass n titties
**doris**


On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:

> I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight and 
> had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is out there...
> 
> 
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> ~Glowing teeth under fluorescent lights. 

that's nasty.  i try to avoid that sight.

> 
> ~People who dance with glowsticks. 

*no comment*
but one member of the mw-raves-family has demonstrated where that
glowstick needs to go.

> 
> ~Being in your mom's car and hearing the -BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM- when the place 
> is still 5 minutes away. 

your mom's car?!?  
isn't it past your curfew??  
being cracked out in hs....not cool.

> 
> ~People who pass water around especially when I really need it. 

bahaha, except when they try to slip you G as water (but that only happens
when you're as cute as greg  =P~)

> 
> ~Dancing around backpack piles. 

more like tripping over?  or having yours stepped on?

> 
> ~Using whistles to hype up the crowd. 

the last time someone used a whistle in close proximity to me, i told her
to go somewhere else with that.  needless to say, she didn't do a very
good job of hyping me up.  and she had the nerve to give me attitude about
that too.

> 
> ~When people come over to you and go "Dude, what are you on?? You gotta be 
> the happiest guy in here." 

and answering "nothing" and having ppl go "omg how do you DO that?!?!?"

> 
> ~Trancing watching people dance when the whole crowd moves like a wave. 

that's cause they're all doing the detroit shuffle.

> 
> ~Getting about a million goose bumps the moment before a song absolutely
> explodes with energy. 

ok i liked that one  =)

> 
> ~That cold rush when you put Vap-o-rub on your face. 

ew

> 
> ~People who bring in backpacks full of "rave goodies" (Blowpops, bottled 
> water that is actually cold, pixy sticks, glitter, etc.). 

i was with ya up until the glitter part....

> ~Reaching for the lasers, seeing if you can hold one, just to make sure you 
> aren't tripping. 

if you even *think* about doing something like that, you must be tripping.

> 
> ~How I sit in skool and dream about the weekend and how Chill the summer is 
> gonna be. 

do you live to rave??  get a life!  sit in skool and pay attention, and
during the summer, umm, sleep a lot  =P

> 
> ~How lasers bounce off reflective sunglasses up on yo head. 

what the hell are you wearing sunglasses for?!?  it's night!!!  you're
inside!!!

> 
> ~When they go to about 9 in the morning so I don't have to sit and wait for 
> my mom to pick me up. 

i thought you stole her car (cause you don't really have that permit yet)
and took it down there already.  unless you had her drop you off there.
which would be even worse.

> 
> ~When people that you have never seen treat you like their best friend. 

yes, i love fake compassion induced by a chemical.

> 
> ~Going out of my way to tell the DJs that they are really good. 

kissing their ass and trying to get my picture taken with them.  

> 
> ~The "I am deaf for life" feeling as you are walking out. 

i don't really enjoy that...  i like my eardrums when they're functioning.

> ~Knowing what that person who just bumped into you is about to say. You 
> saying it before they do. 

*not rave enough to know*  apparently

> 
> ~Leaving your backpack somewhere for 2 hours, then coming back to see that it 
> wasn't moved or even opened. 

where the hell do *you* party?!??!

> 
> ~Watching people talk to walls and speakers and stuff. 

i think that's more tragic than funnny.

> ~When the asthma kids pass around those prescription inhalers. 

and the kids w/ add whip out the adderall....  crush it up, it tastes like
candy and works like a charm.

> ~Socializing in the nitrous line. 

ew

> 
> ~Knowing that if you are in any trouble, any amount of those kids that you 
> don't know will come and help you.. 

oh please.

> 
> ~Going to the packard plant for a party and later comparing black boogers and 
> rave gunk rings in the bathroom at Dennys in the morning.. 

awwwwwwww :(  packard..... :~(  r.i.p.

> 
> ~Walking in and seeing everyone you know and you feel so cool because all the 
> kids are your friends..

do you *really* think they know your name??

> ~Just the feeling of "if they only knew.. while they were all asleep.." 

that one's especially fun when you pass by all the ppl going to church on
sunday morning.  just something about that...  =)

> 
> ~Random hugs.

by sweaty strangers reeking of vapo rub??  err....

> ~Knowin' that any raver boy will pretend to be your boifriend when big scary 
> icky guys, who don't belong at parties in their stoned washed jeans & 
> metalica t-shirts try to pick you up.

or when someone invites him to a threesome and he doesn't have the balls
to agree and tells them he has to go hang out w/ his g/f now.
bwahahaha!!!!

> ~Catching the distinct smell of weed and looking around hoping to mooch a 
> hit, but no one appears to be smoking in the vicinity...

that's annoying  =P

> ~Going up to someone on the floor all hunched over, with their head in there 
> hands, to ask them if they are ok....And they say they are having the best 
> time of their life.

umm...can't they go home and have the time of their life there if all it
takes is loud music and being a puddle in the corner?

> 
> ~That inevitable decision, you can get just one more pill, but you won't have 
> gas money or food money for the next 3 days.

oh brotha....

> ~When someone gives you the best plastic bead bracelet because they thought 
> you were cute, or you just needed it.

only if it reads "i need ass" 

> ~Knowing the stories about how everyone got those weird nicknames, like Sink, 
> Fern, Cherry, and Lollee.

how do you think i got my name, plurfaerie  =)
rave on!
**doris**  aka plurfaerie.



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> I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight
> and had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is
> out there...

well, my wife ain't on crack, and ain't black, a don't got no fly hat like
dj funk, and most importantly isn't dead... but she spins ghetto house...

shoulda seen her mom the first time she came by and annie was spinning...

thought i was gonna die from laughter!!! all you could hear was "suk a
dik" coming from our basement...


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> > I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight
> > and had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is
> > out there...
> 
> well, my wife ain't on crack, and ain't black, a don't got no fly hat like
> dj funk, and most importantly isn't dead... but she spins ghetto house...

oh yeah..i forgot...she can beatmatch too...that makes her infinately
different from dj funk...

and she's cute... :)

> shoulda seen her mom the first time she came by and annie was spinning...
> 
> thought i was gonna die from laughter!!! all you could hear was "suk a
> dik" coming from our basement...


bom shankar!
--varsha

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the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

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eh...this is probably too far away and too lately posted for the bulk o ya....but figgered i'd post it anyway...

lil' more noise in yer S:N ratio....

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> <jaw drops>
> 
> That is completley..  retarded.
--
I AM SOFA KING!
WE TAH DID!

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> > ~Trancing watching people dance when the whole crowd moves like a wave. 
> 
> that's cause they're all doing the detroit shuffle.
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what's the detroit shuffle?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 14:56:25 1999
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Thanks for the link.  I was reading it last night and at the same time I had
a CD playing.  By the time I got to the bottom of the page I realized that I
was really hearing deep into the song that was playing...like I was hearing
beyond every single beat...and I had listened to this song many times
before.  It's like my ears opened up and I had a new listening for the
world.  Then I put my head phones on, laid out on my floor and happened to
notice all of the veins on the back of my hand and how they are all
connected into a pattern.  Not sure what happened but it was cool!

Are there any electrical engineers or inventors out there???  hit me back

PJ 




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I just thought I'd share this link with everybody. I haven't read it all but
what I have read, it is VERY good reading.

http://www.hooked.net/~donut/imaginal.html

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Someone had mentioned somthin' about posting a transcript of the rave summit
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 15:33:12 1999
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Check out this article in the Village Voice about Breakbeat Era (Roni and
Die's new project)

http://www.villagevoice.com/arts/9937/romano.shtml

Yet another article telling us that drum'n'bass in still caught in a "white
nerd metal" rut.  Anyone think this is true?  I think they might be right,
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Sorry about the negativity in advance


>~People who dance with glowsticks.

ppl who dance WITHOUT glowsticks you how many times someone has glow-chucked 
me and ruin my night by taking out my bad knee


>~Being in your mom's car and hearing the -BOOM-BOOM-BOOM-BOOM- when the 
>place
>is still 5 minutes away.

Knowing that the party is gonna get busted if you can hear it 5 mintues away

>~The smell of baby powder.

the smell of vomit

>~People who pass water around especially when I really need it.

that's actually a urine sample

>~Dancing around backpack piles.

dancing ON backpacks

>~Using whistles to hype up the crowd.

i hate whistles

>~"Facing off" with someone on the dance floor and getting a smile.

wouldnt that be a contradiction to facing off


>~Walking out of a dusty warehouse at 8:00 am, feeling the sun on your face,
>and looking up at a clear blue sky.

ditto

>~When people come over to you and go "Dude, what are you on?? You gotta be
>the happiest guy in here."

IM ON PCP


>~Getting about a million goose bumps the moment before a song absolutely
>explodes with energy.

ditto

>~That cold rush when you put Vap-o-rub on your face.

i think thats the sick rush

>~People who bring in backpacks full of "rave goodies" (Blowpops, bottled
>water that is actually cold, pixy sticks, glitter, etc.).

i hate sweets

>~Looking around the floor when you're dancing and knowing that every one of
>those people is having as much fun as you.

im quite sure they are having more

>~Reaching for the lasers, seeing if you can hold one, just to make sure you
>aren't tripping.

Okay, if you actaully reach for the laser then your tripping

>~How I sit in skool and dream about the weekend and how Chill the summer is
>gonna be.

makes me glad school is over, and you need to pay more attention in school 
cause you cant spell

>~How lasers bounce off reflective sunglasses up on yo head.

wait a minute sunglasses?

>~When they go to about 9 in the morning so I don't have to sit and wait for
>my mom to pick me up.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>~When people that you have never seen treat you like their best friend.

E

>~Smart drinks.

i like them except they suck after about 1 in the morning cause there is no 
ice

>~Talking to a newcomer, then seeing him almost every weekend after that.

i love they ones that constantly harass you

>~Getting "sprinkled" with water and getting a chill cause it was 
>unexpected.

look i have enough moisture on me i dont need anymore thank you

>~Dancing to some hardcore, trying to keep up with the music even though 
>itis
>impossible. Giving it all your energy.

house raver


>~Feeling like you could run a few miles the last 10 minutes of a rave, then
>falling asleep on the way home.

thats the crack wearing off

>~Having breakfast the morning after with friends, and the waitress going 
>"you
>kids didn't sleep well last nite did ya?" if she only knew......

that crazy adult


>~The "I am deaf for life" feeling as you are walking out.

why would you enjoy this, another reason you should pay more attention in 
school

>~Singing disco songs on the way to and from the party.

NOBODY sings disco songs in any car im in

>~Preaching my opinions on techno and stuff for no reason, then realizing 
>that
>no one can hear me cause it is to loud and they weren't just ignoring me!

they are all just deaf from the speakers

>~Walking out of that dark place and into the sunshine in the morning, being
>glad your sunglasses were waiting for this moment up on yo head all night.

oh THATS what the sunglasses were for

>~Knowing what that person who just bumped into you is about to say. You
>saying it before they do.

what? get the fuck outta my way

>~Hysterically laughing for no reason.

crack addict

>~Leaving your backpack somewhere for 2 hours, then coming back to see that 
>it
>wasn't moved or even opened.

thats what you think

>~Watching people talk to walls and speakers and stuff.

and knowing the goverment will be paying for them to live in a padded cell 
in a few years

>~When the asthma kids pass around those prescription inhalers.

thats real cool until the asthma kid dies cause his inhaler is nowhere to be 
found

>~When you can yell out "my friend is puking anyone have any candy??" and 5
>hands will shoot up in the air above the crowd with pixie stix and 
>suckers...

lets not see whats wrong with him lets just cover it with candy

>~Socializing in the nitrous line.

whoa ive never been in LINE to get nitrous, i guess our parties arent that 
cool

>~Using flyers when there's no toilet paper just because you dont care.

yeah and scratching yourself till you bleed but your so fucked up you dont 
notice

>~Seeing one of your friends, not on any drugs, just start crying in the
>middle of the dancefloor because the party is SO GOOD and he doesn't know
>what to do..

get of the drugs for starters

>~Knowing that if you are in any trouble, any amount of those kids that you
>don't know will come and help you..

no, they'll just try and cover it with candy

>~You can ask someone for a drink of their water and they wont look at you
>like a crazy stranger.. they smile and pass it over..

thats cool

>~When you're puking in the bathroom and some girl come in there, shuts you 
>in
>with her, and pees while talking to you because you're sitting on the floor
>about to puke again..

whoa why is there a girl in my bathroom would be my first thought

>~Just the feeling of "if they only knew.. while they were all asleep.."

and man i wish i was asleep

>~Standing in the shower the next morning being able to close your eyes and 
>be
>back at the party, as black grime, and rave smell washes down the drain.

just getting the grime off is good enough for me

>~Being able to hear the bass thumping in your brain long after you've left
>the party.

brain damage

>~Leaving with half eaten ring pops on your finger and half empty candy
>necklaces around your neck.

thats why i hate sweets

>~Feeling that while you're in the partee, that you're in a completely
>different world than is outside (it's a dream world).

again, thats the drugs

>~Walking up to a complete stranger just to tell them "I think you're cute"
>and not have them give you a strange look, like you were trying to pick 
>them
>up or something..nah, I was just being nice.

thats what you say unless they say wanna fuck and then your true intentions 
come out

>~Seeing the same kids at three different parties in three different states.

thats cool, lets you know you the hardcore ravers are

>
>~Free parties.

never been to one

>~Random hugs.

they are actually slipping the drugs into your place cause they cops just 
busted in

>~Going to another city for a party and meeting people who ask you if you 
>need
>a place to crash afterwords.

thats way cool

>~Knowin' that any raver boy will pretend to be your boifriend when big 
>scary
>icky guys, who don't belong at parties in their stoned washed jeans &
>metalica t-shirts try to pick you up.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS, "who don't belong at parties" you the fuck are you to 
decide who does and does not belong at parties -- maybe i think your 
uneducated-not paying attention in school-underage-suburban ASS doesn't 
belong at parties but it's not my place to make that judgement and it's not 
yours either.  You need to grow the fuck up little girl, anybody who wants 
to go and listen to the music and dance belongs there--i encourage friends 
of mine that "don't belong at parties" to go for just that reason.  You need 
to be a little less closed minded.

I hate suburan peeps!

On that note im done bitching and ranting

Adam Sjogren
a.k.a. FreakBoy
"The Pyschedelic Avenger"
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yeah... but where did his legs go?

>No see... That was done on purpose!!!
>
>How else would he get all those Spiders and Snakes off of him?????
> >
> >somebody put out ken, he's on fire.


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Abductees:

Everything is ready to go for Friday night.  For those new 
to this
mailing list, Friday night (9/17/99) is our fifth abduction 
party
this year.  We will be hosting Detroit and Intangible 
records'
Terrence Parker in his first trip down to Lexington EVER. 
 Giving him
support on the 12s will be Brooklyn's Dylan Drazen from 
 New York and
Cincinnati's Bob-a-dob from Clubhead records.  On our end 
we'll be
supplying our own Trevor Lamont to round out the line-up. 
 Times of
sets are likely to be shifted around at the DJs' fancy, so 
a line-up
will be posted at the event.  We have secured a beautiful 
virgin
location (really you won't believe how nice this place is) 
for this one so
be prepared to respect the venue or feel our wrath.

The proceeds from this one will be donated to WRFL 
Lexington's
alternative (non profit) radio station and the place to 
hear DJ
Cosmic and DJ Matt Bandy every Friday night.  The cost will 
be our
standard $10 and as always we ask that there be no alcohol, 
weapons,
drugs, markers or difficult people.  The dance floor will 
be strictly
non smoking, however we have gone to great lengths to make 
a
convenient and better than average smoking area 
availablejust off the main space.
Because of the very limited number of venues available in 
Lexington we will be very protective of
this one.  If everyone exercises good judgement we will be 
able to
throw more and more parties at more and more spaces. 
 Please help us
make sure everyone follows the rules so we can continue to 
support
Lexington's growing scene.  Enough of the downbeat stuff... 
:)

We'll be getting started around 10 or 11 PM at the 
Georgetown College Conference and Training Center.  To get 
there from the South:

Take I-75 North to Exit 125 (Georgetown) turn left off the 
ramp onto US 460 and take a left at the stop light onto 
Cherry Blossom Way which is also US 460 by-pass west.  At 
the second stop light turn right onto Lemons Mill Road (Hwy 
1962 West)  Turn into the driveway bearing the Georgetown 
College Sign.  The Conference and Training Center is 
straight ahead at the stop sign.

>From the North:
Take I-75 South to Exist 126 (Georgetown);  turn right off 
the ramp onto Cherry Blossom Way which is also US 460 
by-pass West.  Go through (4) traffic lights and turn right 
onto Lemons Mill Road (Hwy 1962 West)  Turn into the 
driveway bearing the Georgetown College Sign.  The 
Conference and Training Center is straight ahead at the 
stop sign.

>From the East:
Take I-64 West to I-75 North and follow directions from 
South.

>From the West:
Take I-64 East to I-75 North and follow directions from the 
South

Hope to see you all there tonight.  This promises to be a 
standard Aliensquad event with everything that you've come 
to expect from that.  Come out and support quality DJs and 
help out WRFL at the same time.  Keep the scene alive!

**Aliensquad**




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> --
> what's the detroit shuffle?


ask candy chrise.  he knows.

(or look around any underground electronica rave party event.  if there's
a buncha kids holding their hats and walking in place, they're doing the
detroit shuffle... in other places it might be known as the raver skip,
but i'm proud to have my city associated w/ such a creative form of
bodily expression, thus detroit shuffle it is.)


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> in other places it might be known as the raver skip,
> but i'm proud to have my city associated w/ such a creative form of
> bodily expression, thus detroit shuffle it is.)

around here it's called the raver dance, and believe me when I tell you that
I wrote the fucking book on it.  All those other bitches copied my style
BLHAHAHAH

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In a message dated 9/17/99 10:44:29 AM Central Daylight Time, 
kasjogren@hotmail.com writes:

<< >~How lasers bounce off reflective sunglasses up on yo head. >>

One of my worst pet peeves is people who wear sunglasses inside or at night.  
Now I have this darkened ice skating arena at night thing to irritate me too

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With all the terry mullen fans on here, I thought this would be of
interest.  

Getting vibe...
spencer

--- Raveworld <contest@raveworld.net> wrote:
> Date: 17 Sep 1999 05:00:44 -0000
> To: List Member <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> From: Raveworld <contest@raveworld.net>
> Subject: New Shows - Exclusive sets!
> 
> Raveworld - http://www.raveworld.net
> 
> YOUR WEEKEND STARTS HERE:
> 
> This week features house legend, Terry Mullan. "Terry Mullan
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i somehow do not see how exactly bootyhouse should be taken as
degrading...i think it's hilarious...

face it, if women made booty house, ninety percent of women would be all
bout it...hence why women who never liked 2LiveCrew always were caught
singin along to shite like "you gotta lick it before you stick it..."
(blah)...i think it's the same damn shit...but i find it all humorous...

it's just about sex...well except for maybe shit like "beat that bitch
with a bat" or something retarded like that...but it's about stuff that is
a part of most of our lives or has been at one point in time..whatever..

fuck being politically correct...fuck the dumb shit...yes, dj funk
sucks...but it isnt necessarily because of his tracks...it's ALL on his
spinning skills...if some girl got up on the decks and sucked at spinning
as bad as dj funk does, i would be all about her being dead as
well..(heheh)...

you see, if a guy produces booty house, it's offensive and degrading
towards women...if a girl would do it, she would be considered a "pioneer"
or whatever...it's stupid...just let the shit be...bitch about the skills
the dj has..not necessarily the bootyhouse...heheh cuz im sorry...im gonna
dance and shizz when dica and .com are up there spinnin...=) booty haus
rawkz yo...heheh

lates
lauryn

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 16:24:43 1999
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Sorry I had to add my 2 cents into this one. I Think Ghetto house music is a
art form shared by many people such as Deeon, Funk, Wax Master, Slugo,Jammin
Gerald, Dale Urban ect. Hell even Paul Johnson has done his share of Ghetto
tracks.

Just to set the records straight I've done plenty of ghetto house tracks and
I totally love & respect women, in fact my last ghetto house records "My
Womenz Wayz" was a women talking about the men the way men talk about them,
so i feel it's room for a women in the ghetto game.

The music i made wasn't designed to disrespect all women just the ones that
has put them selves out their to be disrespected. everybody's not a Hoodrat,
Bitch, Hoe or Chicken head but you must admit out of everybody you know I'm
sure you can group one of them in one of those categories. and this doesn't
apply just to females their is a few guys out their with the same qualities.

I fell everybody has their own choice of music and they should follow what
makes them happy House, Ghetto,Techno, Trance,Hardcore, D&B ect.

Peace & Love

Pushpac Production / Publishing U.S.A
Shannon L. Syas, D.J Skip C.E.O
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Sweetie please tell me you are joking! Words cannot degrade anyone in and by 
themselves...degradation comes from a long history of a society based on 
control and power. I have come to redifeine the words for myself and not let 
them have power over me ...i went from feeling like shit if a guy from 
school called me a slut or a ho or a bitch,i would wonder if it was 
true...until i realiezed that the things i was doing to be called such 
names( mostly loving more then one person at a time) were not bad and then 
the names were not bad and so when i go and dance to an ass and titties or 
cock and balls song I just laugh and am able to dance and actuallly feel 
more powerfull for not letting it get to me.

I dont know if that explains my point of view...sometimes i hate email...

whendee

P.S. Plus you got to admit some booty house can be sexy as shit

>>
>i sure hope not.  cause if ANY female were ignorant enough to degrade
>women as a direct result of laying a record on a platter (SHE would be the
>direct cause for insults to women being broadcast on a massive speaker),
>i'd have to come lay the smackdown on her.
>or, if she really were the female version of dj funk, she'd be dead
>anyway.  which would be good.
>ass n titties
>**doris**
>
>
>On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
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> > I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight 
>and
> > had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is out 
>there...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 16:33:03 1999
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FreakBoy wrote:

  >~You can ask someone for a drink of their water and they wont look at
you
  >like a crazy stranger.. they smile and pass it over..

  thats cool

  Ok, this is the second time I have seen someone post about how cool
this is today.  Listen up:  HEPATITIS C IS
  GROWING LIKE CRAZY IN OUR SCENE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SHARING WATER AND
  VICKS, THERE IS NO CURE AND IT WILL KILL YOU!  PLEASE BUY YOUR OWN
H20, ITS NOT
  THAT EXPENSIVE!!!!!!

Sorry bout the yellin kids, but I know a kid in tx who is ver very sick
right now and I would hate to see any of you
kids fall victim to the same.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 16:53:40 1999
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Hmmm..speaking of Ghetto House. Is it me or I can't find too many Dancemania 
records. What's up with that. I'm looking for that Bangski Track. Somehow in 
the home of Ghetto House and Dancemania, I can't find it. Y'know, there are a 
few non-"bang dat hoe" tracks that rock. Hell..Robert  Arman & DJ Rush have 
pust stuff out on Dancemania.

Boom boom boom.

Pi 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 16:56:32 1999
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>Minneapolis, MN:  Major metropolitan area, located in Minnesota,
>therefore, not a likely location.  Furthermore, Minnesota residents
>are typically not very well liked by honest to god, Wisconsin
>honkey-tonk types.

Thank god, the only thing worse than honest to god honkey tonk types in 
Wisconsin, is honest to god Honkey-tonk types in Texas

Ill take this as a compliement to Minnesotans

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In a message dated 9/17/99, 12:47:22 PM, stumpyky@aye.net writes:
<< Ok, this is the second time I have seen someone post about how cool
this is today.  Listen up:  HEPATITIS C IS
  GROWING LIKE CRAZY IN OUR SCENE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SHARING WATER AND
  VICKS, THERE IS NO CURE AND IT WILL KILL YOU!  PLEASE BUY YOUR OWN
H20, ITS NOT
  THAT EXPENSIVE!!!!!!
>>

This is sad to hear. A while ago I'd gladly share my H2O with anybody that 
asked. Sometimes Someone would offer me thier water and I wouldn't think 
twice about it (I was thirsty). Now, I don't trust too many people out there. 
I'm afraid to think what might be in the water. 

What happened? It used to be you could trust a fellow event going person. You 
could accept candy and wouldn't mind a sticker. Now all that is changed...

Blah

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Rob Micek wrote:

> Well, I suppose it's time to sample the life of Wisconsin.
> If anyone here has seen any of the performers that are going to be in Eau
> Claire on the 25th please leave a post about how they are.  I really don't
> feel like going and forking over $26 ($25 with a can) to see people who just

$25 with a can good, most can goods anymore are more than $1.00 unless you get
something really shitty, where is the incentive in bringing a canned good or
more like the promoters do not want to give that extra 1 or 2 dollars for a 2-3
dollar discount as is with any canned good discount i have ever seen and yes i
can talk shit cause when i threw parties with a canned food discount i took at
the very very least 2 bucks off if not 3....what a bunch of CHEAP ASS MONEY
HORDING PROMOTERS, especially when the party is 26 dollars oh well with a canned
good you can attend a 25 dollar party (which is probably worth 15 maybe 20) for
25 dollars and save a buck whoo hoo
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 17:09:26 1999
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Phil et al,

>>Now, I don't trust too many people out there.  I'm afraid to think what 
>>might be in the water.  What happened? It used to be you could trust a 
>>fellow event going person. You could accept candy and wouldn't mind a 
>>sticker. Now all that is changed...

Trust is an important issue at parties....at my last party I did pass out 
water to people who looked really overheated or just plain thirsty...but I 
didn't realize the hepatitis situation was rampant.  :(  But still...I think 
that trust is a personal issue.  And at least within the confines of a 
party....I've yet to have any experience that would make me NOT trust anyone 
I've met.  I guess one good solution is to just swap things like 
candy/water/whatever with folks you know well enough to know that they don't 
have some alterior motive behind their love or generosity.  *shrug*

One things for sure...you guyz can all trust me.  :)  I have way too much 
respect for people (inside and out of parties) to not give you all the 
benefit of the doubt.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Love,

Boppity

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The problem with hepatitis is that it is very like aids in its qualities (they
are in the same family).  It can be dormant just like HIV, so as sincere as that
person you have known for years is being about giving you a little water when you
are winded is being, they may not know that they are spreading something, due to
the fact that they don't even know they have something to spread.  All I'm sayin
is be careful, don't wanna lose n e good people.
Love to ya all,
-stumpman

PHILFART@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/17/99, 12:47:22 PM, stumpyky@aye.net writes:
> << Ok, this is the second time I have seen someone post about how cool
> this is today.  Listen up:  HEPATITIS C IS
>   GROWING LIKE CRAZY IN OUR SCENE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SHARING WATER AND
>   VICKS, THERE IS NO CURE AND IT WILL KILL YOU!  PLEASE BUY YOUR OWN
> H20, ITS NOT
>   THAT EXPENSIVE!!!!!!
> >>
>
> This is sad to hear. A while ago I'd gladly share my H2O with anybody that
> asked. Sometimes Someone would offer me thier water and I wouldn't think
> twice about it (I was thirsty). Now, I don't trust too many people out there.
> I'm afraid to think what might be in the water.
>
> What happened? It used to be you could trust a fellow event going person. You
> could accept candy and wouldn't mind a sticker. Now all that is changed...
>
> Blah
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> One of my worst pet peeves is people who wear sunglasses inside or at
night.
--
i have to actually interject here. dancing with sunglasses on can be really
nice if one wants to totally immerse themselves in the music and reduce
visual distractions...especially at parties with too much lighting. i love
listening to headphones in complete darkness too. and when i drop my shit
and start getting down, i don't want to be looking at anything, much less a
bunch of cracked out boners. it may look dumb, but try it sometime.
speaking of which, anyone know of any place in the madison area that has
sensory deprevation tanks?

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>   Ok, this is the second time I have seen someone post about how cool
>   this is today.  Listen up:  HEPATITIS C IS
>   GROWING LIKE CRAZY IN OUR SCENE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SHARING WATER AND
>   VICKS, THERE IS NO CURE AND IT WILL KILL YOU!  PLEASE BUY YOUR OWN
>   H20, ITS NOT
>   THAT EXPENSIVE!!!!!!
> Sorry bout the yellin kids, but I know a kid in tx who is ver very sick
> right now and I would hate to see any of you
> kids fall victim to the same.
--
if i had a nickel for everytime that i got sick after a party where i was
sharing my water, i'd have a whole lotta nickels. it's hard to tell a really
thirsty person "no" when thay need water, but you need to think about the
consequences and look out for yourself at the same time.

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> One things for sure...you guyz can all trust me.  :)  I have way too much 
> respect for people (inside and out of parties) to not give you all the 
> benefit of the doubt.
--
yeah you can trust me too. >:-)         *sharpens stright razor*

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as silly as this seems, it took me more than two years of partying before
i even started noticing lighting and lasers, much less other people on the
dancefloor. i wasn't all fucked up on drugs; i was all fucked up on music,
the intensity of what came to me from the huge speakers. i'd go to a
party, make my way up front, and dance with the speaker, usually with my
eyes closed, until someone came and told me it was time to leave.
occasionally i'd have a bathroom or water break, can't go without those.
of course now i talk to people and check out the laser sometimes, do
 you know, party stuff, though my main focus is still dancing my ass
off. the past few years my eyes have been mostly open when i dance (though
sometimes unfocused). i kinda miss those days when raving was all about
escapism through music. *music is my drug of choice!*

=j

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, jason111 wrote:

> i have to actually interject here. dancing with sunglasses on can be really
> nice if one wants to totally immerse themselves in the music and reduce
> visual distractions...especially at parties with too much lighting. i love
> listening to headphones in complete darkness too. and when i drop my shit
> and start getting down, i don't want to be looking at anything, much less a
> bunch of cracked out boners. it may look dumb, but try it sometime.
> speaking of which, anyone know of any place in the madison area that has
> sensory deprevation tanks?
> 
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> i kinda miss those days when raving was all about
> escapism through music. *music is my drug of choice!*

yeah I know what you mean.  Matt, Lucas, and I (all from the list) used to
go to parties and dance for 6-7 hours straight, regardless of blisters
and/or leg injuries.  One time, I even took a huge trip before a party, and
still danced on it even though dancing on that leg ended up causing a
two-month long leg injury =].

Now, I don't even dance anymore :(.  What happened?? hehe

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bang bang bang skeet skeet skeet
first you bang then you skeet

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>Hmmm..speaking of Ghetto House. Is it me or I can't find too many
Dancemania
>records. What's up with that. I'm looking for that Bangski Track. Somehow
in
>the home of Ghetto House and Dancemania, I can't find it. Y'know, there are
a
>few non-"bang dat hoe" tracks that rock. Hell..Robert  Arman & DJ Rush have
>pust stuff out on Dancemania.
>
>Boom boom boom.
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 18:27:34 1999
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Actually, if you check out www.losers.org there are tons of these... My
personal favorite is some guy named "Kevin," who has this disclaimer about
how gay guys needn't bother mailing him... His picture's hilarious too.

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These are ranked on a scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being the highest.The 
catagories are
    o Presentation - First impression of the tape before listening
    o Programming - Track selection and how well they fit with one another
    o Mixing - How well the tape is mixed

If your interested in any of these tapes, Contact the DJ about getting a 
copy for yourself.

Reviewed by Tilzs tilzs@hotmail.com

--------------------------------

Tsar - "Future Primitive"
Style: Progressive Trance
Contact:
    Phone:  502.340.0099
    E-Mail: ga@purerave.com
    Web:    www.djtsar.com

Presentation: 9
  This tape stuck out right away. The tape itself is gold foil, it goes very 
well with the J-card. Someone spent some time on this J-Card. It has a bit 
of an older "historic" feel to it. Kind of like something you would see on 
the cover of a history textbook or an add for something on the History 
Channel. The J-card includes a track listing. The track listing is a little 
hard to read..therefore the 9.

Programming: 9
  This tape starts off with some breaks, although I'm not a breaks fan I 
found it refreshing. The tracks on this tape are pretty good. Some of them 
get a bit vocally for my tastes, but they work out well. The entire tape 
flows well an it is very enjoyable to listen to. I thought the first side 
was a bit more upbeat and the second was a bit more down tempo, but not the 
stuff that would make you want to sleep, just enjoyable.

Mixing: 9.5

  Tsar's mixing is excellent. Nuff said!

Overall: Excellent tape. If you are a progressive trance fan, find this 
tape. It will not disappoint.

------------------------------------

Jevic - "The Warrior" - New Jersey
Style: Acid Trance / Acid Techno
Contact:
    Phone:   732.441.2998
    Web:     www.sympty.com

Presentation: 7.5
  Nice looking J-card. It has a Manga/Street Fighter looking guy looking all 
pissed and ready to kick ass. There is also this green glow around him that 
gives him a super natural look. The J-card does not include a track listing 
which is unfortunate. The Tape itself is standard black with white text. 
Nothing that stood out.

Programming: 7.5
  Track selection is par. The first side of this tape is Acid Trance. Starts 
off with some older tracks that I have not heard for a couple of years. The 
first side uses tracks that have some very minor cords. It is pretty dark, 
but not overly hard. I would enjoy very much to hear this at a party. Side 2 
is banging hard Acid Techno. Very aggressive, especially track 3 which I 
think is the most evil predatory acid track ever. If anyone has it, I'll buy 
if from you. I thought the sequencing of side 2 could have been a bit 
better. It works, but I think it could have worked more in a different 
order.

Mixing:	8
  It is on for the most part. Couple of spots get off for a second, but he 
corrects them. A few other things could be better, but the overall tape has 
nothing that stands out as "bad".

Overall: Pretty good acid tape. I like it, I listen to it. One thing I did 
notice is the sound quality of this tape is EXCELLENT, it is loud and does 
not distort. I saw Jevic at Rave 'em and Bail E 3 in WI, (which is where he 
gave me this tape) and he sounded good live.

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Brian E - "Disillusion" - Rapid City, South Dakota
Style:    Goa/Psi Trance
Contact:
    Phone:  605.355.0903
    E-Mail: djbraine@mail.com
    Web:    http:// members.xoom.com/djbraine

Presentation: 8.5
  The J-card art is something that I would suspect for Goa Tape. It is dark 
blue fractal art. It includes a track listing which is always a plus in my 
book. The tape itself is purple and goes with the J-card really well.

Programming: 8
  Pretty good goa/psi trance. It is not the super crazy sounding someone was 
on something when they made this goa, but more uplifting styled.Tracks fit 
together fairly well. I really like Laughing Buddha track on side, the 
Infected Mushroom track on side 2 and the final track on side 2 kicks my ass 
every time..its good. Personally I like side 2 more than side 1, but the 
programming on both sides is fairly solid.

Mixing:  8
  The mixing good. A couple of spots sound a bit weird, but don't sound 
off.I have been watching Brian progress as a DJ from when he started. I am 
fairly impressed with how far he has come with his mixing ability.

Overall: Yeah, a good goa/psi tape. I don't see many goa tapes being 
released these days. This one is a keeper and will get played in my car a 
lot. Also nice to see some talent coming out of South Dakota (so what if I'm 
a bit biased about South Dakota!).


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Alex Whalen - "Waimea" - Washington, D.C.
Style:	  Trance \ Progressive Trance
Contact:
  Phone:  516.271.7983
  E-Mail: alexwhalen@yahoo.com

Presentation: 5.5
  Unfortunately, I receive this tape without a J-card. The tape itself looks 
pretty good.It is silver with black text. No J-card also means no track 
listing, which is also a let down.

Programming: 9
   This tape is really well put together. The tacks flow nicely with one 
another. This tape reminds me a bit of a PO CD or some other trance mix that 
has recently come out of the UK.It contains some tracks that I have heard 
and a few that I haven't.

Mixing: 9
   Mixing is really tight. Like I said before, the tracks flow nicely and it 
is in part do  to the smooth mixing. Like Tsar's tape, this tape easily 
competes with any trance CD that has come out of the UK recently.


Overall: Very good tape. This will also get played in my car a lot. 
Tranceheads, mail Alex to see if he has any of these left. Mail him some $$ 
for his troubles, and you'll have a very good trance tape on your hands.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com>
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> Now, I don't even dance anymore :(.  What happened?? hehe
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Uh, you became a DJ.

DJs don't dance.
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Full Spectrum
L.I.M.E.
present   SoundStorm      Cleveland Ohio


SoundStorm Room:
9 - 10:30 - Luis Aguilera aka Galaga
10:30 - 12:00 - C-4
12:00 - 1:00 Delta 9
!:00 - 2:15 - Angel Alanis + Halo aka TRunKids feat. Colette & Jason Torres
on Horns
2:15 - 3:30 - Dj Sy & MC Storm
3:30 - 5:00 - Slacker
5:00 - 6:00 - CZR
Thunder Room:
9:00 - 10:00 - Special D & B DJ ????
10:30 - 12:00 - Tigger
12:00 - 1:00 - Issac "kickin it" Curial
1:00 - 2:30 - Lion
2:30 - 4:00 - Dj Jes
4:00 - 6:00 - Josh Blink's Royal Rumble Feat. Josh Grant & friends

MAIN INFO LINES:
L.I.M.E. LINE - 216.556.4998
FULL SPECTRUM - 773.509.6343

The event will take place at The Agora Theatre.

The Agora Theatre is located at: 5000 Euclid Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio


>From Pittsburgh, Youngstown, and all other points East...

-take 80 West to exit 12 (Rt. 21). Go 3 lights and turn left on Miller
Rd. Follow signs for 77 North. From 77 North, take into Cleveland to
90 East take to Carnegie (Exit 172C). Turn right on Carnegie and take to
E.40th. On E.40th, turn left and at the first light turn right on Prospect.
Go about a 1/4 mile down and space and parking is on the left side. (5000
Euclid Avenue - The Agora Theatre)


>From Columbus, Cincy, and Indy...

-take 70 East to 71 North. Take 71 North into Cleveland and get on 90
East take to Carnegie (Exit 172C). Turn right on Carnegie and take to
E.40th. On E.40th, turn left and at the first light turn right on Prospect.
Go about a 1/4 mile down and space and parking is on the left side. (5000
Euclid
Avenue-The Agora Theatre)


>From Chicago, Detroit, and all other points West...

-(Chicago, Milwaukee) take 80/90 East into Cleveland and stay on 90
East to Carnegie (Exit 172C). Turn right on Carnegie and take to E.40th. On
E.40th, turn left and at the first light turn right on Prospect. Go about a
1/4
mile down and space and parking is on the left side. (5000 Euclid
Avenue-The Agora Theatre)


-(Detroit) take 75 South to 80 East to Exit 8 (Rt. 57). Take 57 North
(Loraine). Immediately after getting on 57 North, get on 90 East
(Cleveland) take to Carnegie (Exit 172C). Turn right on Carnegie and take to
E.40th. On E.40th, turn left and at the first light turn right on Prospect.
Go about a 1/4 mile down and space and parking is on the left side. (5000
Euclid Avenue-The Agora Theatre)

>From Buffalo and all points Northwest...


-take 90 West into Cleveland. Once in Cleveland, take to Prospect
Avenue (Exit 173A). Turn left on Prospect. Go about 1/4 mile past
E.40th. Space and parking is on your left. (5000 Euclid Avenue-The
Agora Theatre)


Remember: Drive safely....Doors open at 9:00pm. sharp. We suggest
that everyone arrive early to avoid the lines...

mike d / gruve
Full Spectrum Chicago
djgruve@home.net
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"I'm a DJ cause I can't dance"
Mr. Science

>From: "Luke Rider" <zaphod@spacestar.net>
>Reply-To: "Luke Rider" <zaphod@spacestar.net>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
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> > Now, I don't even dance anymore :(.  What happened?? hehe
>-----------------------------
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>
>Uh, you became a DJ.
>
>DJs don't dance.
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> party....I've yet to have any experience that would make me NOT trust anyone 
> I've met.


don't worry, that'll pass soon enough.  you party in detroit, after all.


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Hey Suckas!  Anyone in the Detroit area planning on going to the Vinyl
Syndicate tour??  If you are let me know.....I would fancy to meet any of
you moogida foogidas....

Steen 
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 Live as if you'll die today"			
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Christine Abuel
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Hey kids,

I was surfing on the net...again.  And I came across some neat info.  

In Oakland California, there is a priest you got kicked out of the Roman
Catholic Church because of his strong beliefs in gay rights and feminism.
He then joined some Anglican branch and now he integrates all forms of
Electronic Music into his masses/ceremonies.  Can you imagine hearing
trance/techno/Goa...etc, etc. etc.  at *church*??  I thought this was
pretty tripped out.  So I just had to share.  

I guess this priest is all for raves and what not...he thinks that they're
good for the youth of america.  And I guess he also has a book out called
"The Cosmic coming of Christ"....and it's supposed to be about the
importance of Electronic music.

I don't know...this whole thing seemed kind of crazy....I'm Catholic, but
i'm not a religious fanatic....so don't worry..I'm not trying to thump any
bibles on your head.  Simply trying to share some interesting trivial
information (well actually nothing's trivial....heh heh I learned that from
Brandon Lee)....if I can remember the site I found that at, I'll let you
all know.

Have a good weekend y'all....(whoa I used y'all...i've suddenly become
possessed by the essence of John Brennan of the Real World....)

Till then.....

peace and love,
steen
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Christine Abuel
Student Assistant 
Office of the Academic Senate
Wayne State University
1276 Faculty/Administration Building
(313) 577-2288
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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
> this is the best thread EVER

Yep, might as well shut down the Internet now, the pinnacle of all online
conversation has now been reached.  

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i was just wondering , after this whole happy things business, and the 
mention of glitter, if anyone is as anti glitter as i am..see, my grandma 
told me when i was little that if i got glitter in my eye, i would go blind 
cause it would cut my eyeball...!..., so i have an irrational (or maybe not 
so) fear of glitter.thus, I HATE it. i guess i can never *be* as rave as i 
wanna be...
i just remebered that and thought id share.

*************
yeah. thats what yer mom said.
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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, immovable objekt wrote:
> actually we didnt.  this thread has been on the internet and spreading like 
> wildfire for over a week.  i think it originated on a quake server, probly 
> blues news...

Hey, maybe he finally scored. :)

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>From www.ecstasy.org 

Warning: 'China White' pills contain DOB
Three visually identical pills, sold as ecstasy in the UK and known as China 
Whites, Technos or White Russians, have been laboratory tested over the last 
month. 

The pills are white with a hard gloss finish and are identical on both sides. 
They have no logo and no score and are well made. Weight ~200 mg. 
Measurements: 0.705cm diameter, 0.43cm thick in centre, 0.31cm thick at edge. 

Two of the pills had no active component. One contains DOB 
(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-Bromoamphetamine). The DOB-containing pill, on being broken 
across, has the occasional tiny blue speck visible within the tablet 
substance.

User reports of these pills vary with some reports of no effects, and some 
reports of bad experiences.

It seems likely that these tablets come from the same manufacturer and the 
differing effects may reflect inadequate mixing of the active DOB with 
fillers.

DOB is a very potent drug with a typical dose being 1-5mg. Effects can take 
three to four hours to appear, and may last up to twenty four hours.

The danger of DOB lies in the possibility of overdose, especially if the user 
believes they are taking MDMA (or similar substance) and, feeling no effects 
after an hour, decides to take more. There have been reports of deaths due to 
overdose of this drug.

In a Marquis test for DOB the reagent initially stays clear then very slowly 
turns a greenish colour. As the amount of chemical is so small the green 
colour may be masked by other ingredients and the reagent may stay fairly 
clear.

More information about DOB is available at the London Toxicology Group, and 
in Alexander and Ann Shulgin's PiHKAL (substance no. 62). 

 

 

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> He then joined some Anglican branch and now he integrates all forms of
> Electronic Music into his masses/ceremonies.  Can you imagine hearing
> trance/techno/Goa...etc, etc. etc.  at *church*??  I thought this was

Ok, I have a hard time picuturing ALL forms of electronic music...
Picture this....
(fade in)
"...to smite the eeeeevil that corrupts our land.  For it is YOUUUR duty
and obligation to..."(mega bass kicks in and ghetto 4-4 beat slams into
the room)
  vocals:  "HIT IT BANG FUCK IT KICK IT.... BEAT THAT BITCH WITH A BAT!!!"

hmm I dunno if I would want to experience that change in ANYONE's church.
*grin*

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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Phil Pompa wrote:
> Oh yeah speaking of all this don't you guys trip when you have one of your
> discs in and it scratches on a beat for like a four count and then goes back
> to normal and you're like "damn, that was a perfect break beat" i love that.
> I would also like to sample a modem dial up and throw it in a tune, how
> sweet is that. Oh and Derek most of my messages don't make that much sense,
> but im a talking heads fan, and like their album says "stop making
> sense."         phil

Actually, Dan Doormouse samples a modem in his AOHell song.

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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Brandon Ivers wrote:
> Yet another article telling us that drum'n'bass in still caught in a "white
> nerd metal" rut.  Anyone think this is true?  I think they might be right,
> but I've been liking white nerd metal lately so fuck em

Yea, I'd say white nerd metal is probably my favorite style of music right
now besides drum & bass and hardcore...  All of my friends (who mostly
hate techno) are in white nerd metal bands and they rule. :)

That's why I'm writing metal-breakcore...  It's the greatest....  Just
kind of tough to not make it sound like a big clusterfuck (not that that's
a bad thing)...

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>> Now, I don't even dance anymore :(.  What happened?? hehe
>-----------------------------
>
>
>Uh, you became a DJ.
>
>DJs don't dance.


    hehe, yeah, shit, I don't even dance anymore... WTF??? I just don't have
the time, too fuckin busy to waste time on crappy overpriced parties just so
I can do a little groovin... it sucks that it's come to this, I really
really really like dancing too, I used to go all night 3 nights a week, now
I can barely get out every other week... jeez... it's sad... can't wait till
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http://www.hepfi.org/HCV.htm

good website. This shit is scary. Not sure if somebody already posted a
place to learn about this, but I wouldn't fuck around with sharing water and
stuff like that.

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thought y'all might like this info...

> friends,
>
> paxahau's webcasting project will launch this sunday from www.paxahau.com
> and will open with dj's and D label recording artists acid
> pimp (poker) and flex (previously known as ikon).  the D link is on the
> paxahau.com links page.
>
> webcasts will be every sunday evening (est) and schedule will expand
rapidly
> with more dj's and online events.  casts will focus
> primarily on techno and experimental electronic music and we are currently
> interested in other dj's and live performances fitting
> that direction of sound.
>
> you will need the latest full version of winamp, download from:
> www.winamp.com - attached is a nice plug in for your winamp
> listening/viewing pleasure. (it was 116k...i removed it for posting to the
list -j111)
>
> please feel free to listen and email results and/or suggestions through
the
> website.  all schedules and listening instructions will
> be posted regularly.
>
> thank you.
>
>
>
> www.paxahau.com



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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:
>   Ok, this is the second time I have seen someone post about how cool
> this is today.  Listen up:  HEPATITIS C IS
>   GROWING LIKE CRAZY IN OUR SCENE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SHARING WATER AND
>   VICKS, THERE IS NO CURE AND IT WILL KILL YOU!  PLEASE BUY YOUR OWN
> H20, ITS NOT
>   THAT EXPENSIVE!!!!!!

Yea, water is such an abundant and necessary thing, I really think that
the blame has to fall on the shoulders of fucking promoters for trying to
take the kids for everything they're worth.  How much trouble would it be
to just have free water...  Or make people pay for a cup and get free
refills if you're scared that they're going to waste your precious cups.
I don't know how many shitty parties I've been to where I've had to pay
several dollars for a bottle of warm water; at least keep it cold if I'm
going to pay that much for it.  

Seriously, if they're charging $20+ for a rave how do they expect all of
these young kids to be able to pay up to $10 more for water that night?

Sure, a lot of the kids are spoiled suburban kids, but that doesn't mean
that the rest of them have to get hepatitis or dehydrartion.

I think I'm just sick of the promoter mentality lately where they just
waste a ton of money on overhyped DJs and a shitty venue, and pocket the
rest of it.  You show me a broke promoter and I'll show you an honest man.

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that would be me...altho I usually mix it with hardcore ;p

it's fergcore baby!!!!!

fergus :)

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http://www.louipimps.com/artists/dj_booth/ram/djbooth_a.ram
enjoy side a of dj booth's mixtape.

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> I don't know how many shitty parties I've been to where I've had to pay
> several dollars for a bottle of warm water; at least keep it cold if I'm
> going to pay that much for it.
--
FYI...actually, the human body absorbs water more effectively at room
temperature. it just doesn't feel as refreshing that way.

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I've been reading about all this hoopla about ravers getting HCV (Hepatitis 
C) from sharing water bottles.  I work in a hospital and have just spent a 
half hour pouring over info about HCV and the most recent studies have have 
found the virus in saliva but haven't have founded proof of this of a way of 
transmission.  And anyway if this is the case there are plenty of people at 
raves sharing way more saliva by various ways that their water bottles are 
the last things they need to worry about.  Maybe the increase of HCV in the 
rave community has something to do with unprotected sex and sharing of 
needles which is the two main ways of transmitting this virus.  HCV is 
transmitted in the same way as HIV.  Exposure to blood is the the real risk 
here.  The amount of saliva a person would have to be exposed to is 
tremendous.  And then the person would have to have an open sore or cut for 
the virus to transmit though.  Here's some info I'll pass along from our 
hospital archives.  This is documented studies.

(2) HCV has been detected in saliva (Couzigou, 1993; Komiyama, 1991;
                            Abe, 1991), and transmission via a human bite 
has been reported (Figueredo,
                            1994). However, the epidemiologic importance of 
this route of transmission
                            within the home and among health professionals 
exposed to saliva requires
                            further study (Figueredo, 1994).

Thanks for your time

Rachel

P.s I also agree that water should be cheap or free at parties.

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As Trevor has said many many times, want free water, go to one of his parties.
I don't know about the rest of you, but with Terrance Parker, Dylan Drazen, Bob
A Dob, and Tevor an the lineup for 10 bucks and free water you better beleive
that I will be Abducted tonight.  So Stop the spread of crazy disease and go to
an aliensquad event.
pEaZ,
Stumpman

Rachel S wrote:

> I've been reading about all this hoopla about ravers getting HCV (Hepatitis
> C) from sharing water bottles.  I work in a hospital and have just spent a
> half hour pouring over info about HCV and the most recent studies have have
> found the virus in saliva but haven't have founded proof of this of a way of
> transmission.  And anyway if this is the case there are plenty of people at
> raves sharing way more saliva by various ways that their water bottles are
> the last things they need to worry about.  Maybe the increase of HCV in the
> rave community has something to do with unprotected sex and sharing of
> needles which is the two main ways of transmitting this virus.  HCV is
> transmitted in the same way as HIV.  Exposure to blood is the the real risk
> here.  The amount of saliva a person would have to be exposed to is
> tremendous.  And then the person would have to have an open sore or cut for
> the virus to transmit though.  Here's some info I'll pass along from our
> hospital archives.  This is documented studies.
>
> (2) HCV has been detected in saliva (Couzigou, 1993; Komiyama, 1991;
>                             Abe, 1991), and transmission via a human bite
> has been reported (Figueredo,
>                             1994). However, the epidemiologic importance of
> this route of transmission
>                             within the home and among health professionals
> exposed to saliva requires
>                             further study (Figueredo, 1994).
>
> Thanks for your time
>
> Rachel
>
> P.s I also agree that water should be cheap or free at parties.
>
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At 03:03 PM 9/17/99 -0500, DreamSequence wrote:
>Ok, I have a hard time picuturing ALL forms of electronic music...
>Picture this....
>(fade in)
>"...to smite the eeeeevil that corrupts our land.  For it is YOUUUR duty
>and obligation to..."(mega bass kicks in and ghetto 4-4 beat slams into
>the room)
>  vocals:  "HIT IT BANG FUCK IT KICK IT.... BEAT THAT BITCH WITH A BAT!!!"
>

Yeah....I'm with you on that one....or even better...imagine some preacher
dude preaching about preacher stuff and then DJ Godfather busts in with
"HOES TAKE OFF YOUR CLOTHES.....HOES GET NEKID....SHAKE THAT SHIT TO THE
LEFT....."  

I'd probably lose control of my anal sphincter.......ewwwww gross.

Well....seriously though.....i imagine that this guy would be incorporating
nice ambient stuff....as opposed to the bootie and hardcore....

As for me, I wouldn't like the change too much either.  Something more
along the lines of separation between church and parties.........Just
thought that was some interesting stuff.....

Take it easy.....

steen
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PiLLOW TALK
pt 1 of the Pajama Jama Jam
9/18/99

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause
but we may or may not be able to provide directions
to th evenue until AFTER 1PM Saturday afternoon.


Please contact us @ 317 592 9236 after midnight
tonight just to double check.

Again, we SHOULD be able to post directions
to the venue after midnight tonight.  Otherwsie,
check back tomorrow either on MW-RAVES or our
voice mail.


Thank you!




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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:53:03 EDT PHILFART@aol.com writes:
>Hmmm..speaking of Ghetto House. Is it me or I can't find too many 
>Dancemania records. What's up with that. I'm looking for that Bangski
Track. 
>Somehow in the home of Ghetto House and Dancemania, I can't find it.
Y'know, 
>there are a few non-"bang dat hoe" tracks that rock. Hell..Robert  Arman
& DJ Rush 
>have pust stuff out on Dancemania.

well... with the demise of Dancemania (one Chip rekkid does not institute
a return in my mind) finding old ghetto tracks has become a challenge. 
>From my understanding, Dancemania simply ran outta of money for
re-pressings so was forced to sell off most of it's back stock in hopes
of getting out of debt.  If you can't find it at Barney's, I wish you
luck.

p.s.  last time i talked to Funk... his claim is that most of the
releases to come out on the new Funk Records will be formatted Ghetto
House on one side, Chicago Ghetto Techno on the other... so i expect to
see more bangers real soon... i'm all for Bang Dat Hoe tracks, but the
more wall-bangers the better as far as i'm concerned...

peace...

-pm-

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ok i'm sorry i know this is muy nrr, but very *very* few forwards make me
smile, and this one did.  so share the joy w/ me.


---------- Forwarded message ----------


   Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says 


   Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers 


   Drunk Gets Nine Months in Violin Case 


   Iraqi Head Seeks Arms 


   Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus? 


   Prostitutes Appeal to Pope 


   Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over 


   Include Your Children when Baking Cookies 


   Clinton Wins on Budget, But More Lies Ahead 


   Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told 


   Miners Refuse to Work after Death 


   Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant 


   Stolen Painting Found by Tree 


   Two Sisters Reunited After 18 Years at Checkout Counter 


   War Dims Hope for Peace 


   If Strike Isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last a While 


   Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures 


   Enfields Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide 


   Red Tape Holds Up New Bridges 


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   Kids Make Nutritious Snacks 


   Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors 


   New Vaccine May Contain Rabies 


   Man Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge

hehe thought you may like some of those :)  latah.

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> Sweetie please tell me you are joking! Words cannot degrade anyone
in > and by themselves...degradation comes from a long history of a
society > based on control and power. I have come to redifeine the
words for
> myself and not let them have power over me ...i went from feeling
like > shit if a guy from school called me a slut or a ho or a bitch,i
would > wonder if it was true...until i realiezed that the things i
was doing > to be called such names( mostly loving more then one
person at a time) > were not bad and then the names were not bad and
so when i go and
> dance to an ass and titties or cock and balls song I just laugh and
am > able to dance and actuallly feel more powerfull for not letting
it get > to me.

I've noticed that a lot of girls who are overtly feminist (in a truly
positive sense) like, or even love, ghetto house, and don't
necessarily find it offensive because they don't take it seriously for
exactly the reason you just described: it's all about who controls a
word.  Think about what kind of connotations different
words--especially potentially derogatory ones--in our society have. 
Who uses these words? How are they used?  Do men control the word
"dyke" or do women?  What about "cunt"?  For a girl to accept ghetto
house in all its campiness is to conquer it.  If you fight against
something, you've already lost in a way because you've let it get to
you.  If you accept it and dismiss it as not even worth taking
seriously, THEN you've defeated it.

Think about the difference between black->black use of "nigger" versus
white->black.  It's not just about the intent, it's about who's
controlling the word.  For black people to have claimed this word, and
use it, is to have conquered it.  For anyone else to start using it is
to shake that control.

In the case of ghetto house, I think it also has a LOT to do with not
only controlling the words, though, but being in control of your own
sexuality.  I tend to think most girls are preoccupied with being
attractive, but also want to be in control of who (or what) they
attract... no one wants to be a victim, or live in fear because their
dress accentuates their beauty.  The one living in fear is not in
control.  The one covered head to toe, with only a pair of eyes
visible beneath a shapeless wrap, is not in control.

The question is whether DJ Funk is in control of "ass and titties"
when he plays his tracks, or whether the chicas are.  If you have to
alter your behavior as a result, then you're being controlled by those
words. You can have just as much self-respect dancing to ghetto house
as you can sitting in a corner plugging your ears; but who's more of a
victim: the self-respecting girl ostracizing herself from the party,
or the self-respecting lass getting down because she likes the MUSIC?

be cool,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 23:08:55 1999
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Don't confuse them with China Loves.....china loves are small, hard pressed 
and have a chinese hyrogliphic character on one side.  According to reports 
on Bluelight...the China Loves are very good rolls and safe.

Love and Respect,

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I've read on several websites about parties and MDMA that, at least in 
Europe, abandoned churches make for INCREDIBLE parties....acoustically is a 
given, but the sheer mood and tone it puts people in it's like free 
decorating.  :)  I for one would LOVE to have a party in a dark marble 
cathedral off in the country.  :)

Laterz...

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i dunno if there is or not but i wanna be one !!!!

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----Original Message Follows----

 >I was listening to the ghetto tape Michael McCusty made for me tonight and
 >had to wonder if something such as a female version of DJ Funk is out
there...


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Well, two things then:

1). It didn't discount transmission by saliva, saying that it simply
"required further study."

2). Many ravers (any non-candy raver that refuses to wear a pacifier,
basically) have open sores in their lips, which would increase the risk,
or at least I'd hypothesize.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 23:20:22 1999
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Ok, my first question for the Village Voice is "who the fuck is Lamb?"
Fuck them, as long as were not impressing the mainstream media with
crossover bullshit, I think were doing the right thing.  I'm not
against getting popularity and press in the mainstream, the more people
who can hear the music the better.  What I am against is compromising
artistic talent for the sake of selling a platinum album.  The farther
that Drum n Bass strays from the path that the last urban breakbeat
music did i.e. my beloved hip hop (may it R.I.P.) the fucking better!

--- Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com> wrote:
> Check out this article in the Village Voice about
> Breakbeat Era (Roni and
> Die's new project)
> 
> http://www.villagevoice.com/arts/9937/romano.shtml
> 
> Yet another article telling us that drum'n'bass in
> still caught in a "white
> nerd metal" rut.  Anyone think this is true?  I
> think they might be right,
> but I've been liking white nerd metal lately so fuck
> em
> 
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What: Got Vibe? Net Meet

When: 1 am  (I know this is when Champ goes on, but don't worry he's one for
an hour and a half!)

Where:  As you walk into the venue walk forward to the bathroom and turn
left, only way you can turn. Then follow the path past the rink all the way
to the back wall.  There will be signs.  I will try and make some name tags.

Why: So you can put faces to names and meet new people

How:  Your smart kids, you figure it out!

See you mutha fuckers there!  I am sooooooo excited.....hell yeah!

Toby
Kindred Groove
Boogie Knights

****Doors OPEN at 11pm so be there on time to avoid the lines!!!****




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just in case any of you promoters out there are looking to have someone
do some flier art for you, or if some DJ's are looking for j-card
desighn or something to that effect
Note: forwarded message attached.

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Hello...

    A friend of mine has been assisting me in the search of freelance work on 
flyers and cd covers.  He forwarded me your addy and thought that I should 
see if you could further my search any?...  I have a few pictures available 
to send if desired... I don't have any of my own 3D work available to show 
you at this time... but I have been working on gathering my portfolio 
together... and plan on posting my own site for that...
    If you have any information that could lead me to the right individuals 
to speak to concerning flyers and cd covers or what not... I would be most 
appreciative...

Thanks...
William

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 17 23:44:38 1999
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Sure make your net meat when i get onto the decks,
I see how it is
no one loves me i know


--- TOBY M BROSNAHAN <TMB4@prodigy.net> wrote:
> What: Got Vibe? Net Meet
> 
> When: 1 am  (I know this is when Champ goes on, but
> don't worry he's one for
> an hour and a half!)
> 
> Where:  As you walk into the venue walk forward to
> the bathroom and turn
> left, only way you can turn. Then follow the path
> past the rink all the way
> to the back wall.  There will be signs.  I will try
> and make some name tags.
> 
> Why: So you can put faces to names and meet new
> people
> 
> How:  Your smart kids, you figure it out!
> 
> See you mutha fuckers there!  I am sooooooo
> excited.....hell yeah!
> 
> Toby
> Kindred Groove
> Boogie Knights
> 
> ****Doors OPEN at 11pm so be there on time to avoid
> the lines!!!****
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Well i guess that since i spend most of my time with steen and the fact
that she shows me her boobies...every day...than i guess i too would be
meeting some of you. Peace philly
"the droid mentioned someone by the name of Ben Kenobi, I was wondering if
you knew him."
"know him, of course i Know him"
"oh you do"
"yeah...he's me."   may the force be with ya'll on this fine evening.


On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Christine Abuel wrote:

> Hey Suckas!  Anyone in the Detroit area planning on going to the Vinyl
> Syndicate tour??  If you are let me know.....I would fancy to meet any of
> you moogida foogidas....
> 
> Steen 
> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
> "Dream as if you'll live forever....
>  Live as if you'll die today"			
> 	         - James Dean
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> Christine Abuel
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After a close call at customs, Cari Lekebusch and Adam Beyer have
arrived in the Twin Cities and are ready to wreck havoc upon the
midwest!
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Well Zoop, South Dakota only know rave promoters, has seemed to cause a bit 
of a media frenzy.

http://splooge.sdsmt.edu/Raveon.asf

This is what happens when you drop 3500 flyers on a city with nothing else 
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:36:52 -0400
From: Christine Abuel <cabuel@sun.science.wayne.edu>

>I guess this priest is all for raves and what not...he thinks that
>they're good for the youth of america.  And I guess he also has a book
>out called "The Cosmic coming of Christ"....and it's supposed to be about
>the importance of Electronic music.

i remember meeting a guy like that at hullabloo 9 back in february.  at
least the guy looked like a priest (actually he looked more like the pope)
so i HAD to go up and say hi to him.  he was cool for a 60 year old dude
at a party :P

but i agree, progressive trance in church would rule.

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>I've read on several websites about parties and MDMA that, at least 
>in Europe, abandoned churches make for INCREDIBLE 
>parties....acoustically is a given, but the sheer mood and tone it 
>puts people in it's like free decorating.  :)  I for one would LOVE 
>to have a party in a dark marble cathedral off in the country.  :)
--
i've been to a couple of parties in masonic temples. the atmosphere 
is slightly eery and very cool. lots of mathematical references and 
symbols built into the various rooms makes you wonder just what it is 
that goes on there...


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 04:15:22 1999
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>if i had a nickel for everytime that i got sick after a party where i was
>sharing my water, i'd have a whole lotta nickels. it's hard to tell a 
>really
>thirsty person "no" when thay need water, but you need to think about the
>consequences and look out for yourself at the same time.
>

what kills me is when i tell someone i'm sick so they won't drink my water, 
so they tell me "it's okay...i am too".  oh really?!?!?! but you were gonna 
drink outta my water and give it back to me, huh?

very plurry of them, eh?

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>~Knowin' that any raver boy will pretend to be your boifriend when big 
>scary
>icky guys, who don't belong at parties in their stoned washed jeans &
>metalica t-shirts try to pick you up.

THANK THE LORD FOR THAT!  damn those people that don't belong at our 
PRECIOUS raves!

amen, sister!  let's keep our raVe pure!


keepin' it realer than you,
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 On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:45:39   Griggles wrote:
>Dear Stephie Wefie:
>
>	This is the FBI.  Thanks for the tip.  We'll see you Saturday.
> 

Okay guys- that wasn't very funny now- that really freaked me out there for a second, i've been having a really stingy day with all the cops being on my back lately and that just burst my trigger. 
  Hell- why not make it a date? Would you like my license plate number and full description of my car too?  Would that help you out?  Or how about my credit card #'s so you can go on a shopping spree afterward as a celebration??? Wouldn't that be fun now?!?!?! Ah fuck off you stupic FBI cunts.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 04:49:20 1999
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here's the deal after speaking with frankie @ hot jams.

DM got purchased by someone else.  the old workers stole a fuckload of the 
masters... so they're hard up to repress a lot of the shit, and they're 
trying to remaster some of it.

there have been recent releases on white label (up to DM 278, i believe) and 
hopefully DM will once again flourish.  but right now they're still 
regrouping under new ownership, as far as i know.


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LOL  hey ass nice comentary  i must agree with about half that was off some 
web site i had it from a long time ago and didn't look it over some of it was 
really cool shit. imho 

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remember when everyone used to be friendly to each other at parties. not 
because they were "fuckin candy ravers" or "plur bandits" but just because 
they were happy to be out dancing and listening to some kick ass grooves.  i 
don't think it takes 25lbs. of plastic jewlrey to smile.  

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 06:41:11 1999
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the current URB mag. (sept. oct) has what i would call the most poignant 
article to date that i have read on the current status of the scene.  i 
suggest you all read it.  it talks about that whole issue of drugs in the 
scene.  woody is interviewed among others.  it is very intelligent and well 
researched and about five pages long.  

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Nope sure doesn't, but then again, it doesn't take a hat to protect your
head from the sun indoors, or a piercing to express your 'individuality,
or a tat to 'express your inner self man', or a $90 item to cover your
upper body, or a $5000 sound system in your car to play music...

But each of those things makes certain individuals smile a little bit
more, so why should it be a problem for them to have them?

What friendliness and good times with others _does_ take at parties, (or
anywhere) is acceptance of whoever you happen to be there with.  

You seem to have a prob with candy ravers, which is straight... that's
your opinion... kewl bananas, but don't try and lay your inability (or
whoever else you might be speaking of) to be friendly, on the
actions/inactions of others, unless you can link it to you.  I think that
if a couple (or 75 *grin*) plastic bracelets adorned about someone can
ruin your night, you should seek a mental hygiene consultant.  =)

Peace out schnoops!

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On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 AlienSoulthief@aol.com wrote:

> remember when everyone used to be friendly to each other at parties. not 
> because they were "fuckin candy ravers" or "plur bandits" but just because 
> they were happy to be out dancing and listening to some kick ass grooves.  i 
> don't think it takes 25lbs. of plastic jewlrey to smile.  
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hey all,

there's not a lot of em up yet, but zully finally gave me some pics to scan, 
so here they are:

http://www.maxart.net/shiva/IDPics.html

enjoy!

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i have no problem with "candy ravers" at all.  i was just pointing out that 
you don't have to be "candy" to be nice  and those fucking wierdos are the 
friendly outgoing people i guess you couldn't detect the sarcastic voice it 
my typed words. my post ment no animosity towards anyone.   you completely 
missed the whole point of what i was trying to say   : (    i was just 
reminiscing back to when everyone used to be nice to everyone not just "candy 
kids"    sorry if i insulted anyone. i have nothing against candy kids or 
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Stephie Wefie wrote:

+ On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:45:39   Griggles wrote:
+>Dear Stephie Wefie:
+>
+>	This is the FBI.  Thanks for the tip.  We'll see you Saturday.
+> 
+
+Okay guys- that wasn't very funny now- that really freaked me out there
+for a second,

it did? really?

+i've been having a really stingy day with all the cops
+being on my back lately and that just burst my trigger.

if all the cops are on your back, that might tell you one or more of the
following things (and perhaps a few that aren't listed):

1. that cops are fat, ugly, stupid, evil doughnut-eating robots that have
nothing better to do than bother innocent raver girls.

2. that it could be possible (bear with me for a second here..) that you
might have made a few decisions in the past that drew the police in your
general direction.   but then, it's probably not this one, because
reversing that trend would require some effort.

3. with all that weight on your back, you may have a promising carreer
ahead of you as a camel, or at least a pack mule.

+about my credit card #'s so you can go on a shopping spree afterward as
+a celebration??? Wouldn't that be fun now?!?!?!

come to think of it... >8D

+Ah fuck off you stupic
+FBI cunts. ---

and they're stupid, too.

but seriously, if there's one thing you can count on in this world it's
that fact that IF you're being pursued by the FBI, they, in all
likelihood, will not inform you via e-mail or refer to you as Stephie
Wefie.  Unless Wefie is your real last name... and, if that's the case, you
have some funny parents.

although, an FBI agent named griggles would be pretty scary. "yikes!"
"yikes!" again for good measure.

+"ravers aren't hermits"

rectangles aren't squares.  

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No insult here  =)

Just misunderstood ya.  But noooooow I understand... and...umm... well
take everything I said, and point it at candy raver haters!  
Grr.

hee

Kale/DreamSequence

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 AlienSoulthief@aol.com wrote:

> i have no problem with "candy ravers" at all.  i was just pointing out that 
> you don't have to be "candy" to be nice  and those fucking wierdos are the 
> friendly outgoing people i guess you couldn't detect the sarcastic voice it 
> my typed words. my post ment no animosity towards anyone.   you completely 
> missed the whole point of what i was trying to say   : (    i was just 
> reminiscing back to when everyone used to be nice to everyone not just "candy 
> kids"    sorry if i insulted anyone. i have nothing against candy kids or 
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his e mail addy is dentwin@aol.com

he is a very good friend of mine and is very good. if any1 is interested 
please contact him, you will not be dissapointed!   BTW   hes from cincy

GabrieL


just in case any of you promoters out there are looking to have someone
do some flier art for you, or if some DJ's are looking for j-card
desighn or something to that effect
Note: forwarded message attached.

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Hello...

    A friend of mine has been assisting me in the search of freelance work on 
flyers and cd covers.  He forwarded me your addy and thought that I should 
see if you could further my search any?...  I have a few pictures available 
to send if desired... I don't have any of my own 3D work available to show 
you at this time... but I have been working on gathering my portfolio 
together... and plan on posting my own site for that...
    If you have any information that could lead me to the right individuals 
to speak to concerning flyers and cd covers or what not... I would be most 
appreciative...

Thanks...
William

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What in gods name do I have to do, to get a copy of his set from ID????


I am willing to give up the following:

1st born
left arm at the elbow
big toe on either foot
2nd born
cash
possible trade for WIFE, but will need the WIFE back.

I am open to suggestions..

  Thanks for you time..
      Love to ALL:

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Here are your directions for tonight's
event in Indy.

PiLLOW TALK - The Pajama Jama Jam (pt 1)

But first some helpful tips!

Please have all pockets emptied for inspection =

upon arrival at the event.  The security staff
is tight, but friendly.  Some were ravers back
in the day before going to marines, army, etc..
So, they wanna have just as much fun as you do!

There will be Rangers patroling the parking lot
and the county has enacted a new law.  NO ALCOHOL
BEVERAGES ON PREMISES!!!!  That includes in the
parking lot.  You can be arrested if you are =

caught consuming alcohol even in the comfort of your
automobile.  So, get your swerve on before entering
the park!

We are working with the owners of the conference
center regarding smoking.  There may be a seperate
area (The Fireplace Lounge) designated for smoking.

We'll let you know.  If that is the case, you can
ONLY smoke in the lounge.  ViOLATERS WILL BE EJECTED!
Otherwise, we'll have a leniant pass - out policy!

Chocolate's mom will be at the door.  Please, respect
her (she's had it rough tryin' to raise a freaky
afro-naut!) ;^)

The space is air-conditioned.
The space is nice.
The bathrooms are clean!

Let's respect the space, space owners, and space employees!

The event starts at 10PM and goes until 6AM, with an
afterhours to proceed by MUSIQUE BOUTIQUE!

Now, on to directions

The venue - POST ROAD COMMUNITY PARK CONFERENCE & BANQUET HALL
1313 S. Post Rd (between washington st and brookville rd on the
east side of town)

FROM DETROIT/Ft. WAYNE/MUNCIE
I-69 South
465 South
I-70 East
Post Rd exit
Turn Right off of the exit (southbound)
And follow general directions (provided below)

CHICAGO, LAFAYETTE =

I-65 South
  into downtown Indy
I-70 East
Post Rd exit
turn Right off of exit  (southbound)
Follow general directions (provided below)

BLOOMINGTON (IN)
37 North
465 East/North
I-70 East
Post Rd Exit
turn Right off exit (Heading South)
Follow general directions (provided below)

CLEVELAND, OH
I-71 South into Columbus and follow Columbus'
directions!

COLUMBUS, DAYTON, & SPRINGFIELD (OH) and RICHMOND (IN)
I-70 W
Post Rd exit
turn Left (southbound) =

Follow general directions (provided below)
***NOTE --- Post Rd exit will be BEFORE you
***hit downtown Indy.  If you've made it to =

***downtown Indy you've gone too far!

St. Louis, MO
I-70 E
past downtown Indy
Post Rd exit
turn Right (going southbound)
Follow general directions (provided below)!

LOUiSVILLE (KY), GREENWOOD (IN)
I-65 North =

into downtown Indy
I-70 East =

Post Rd exit
Turn Right (Heading South)
Follow general directions (provided below)

CINCY (OH)
I-74 W (into Indy)
465 East/North
I-70 East
Post Rd exit
turn Right off exit (headed Southbound)
Follow general directions (provided below)



***GENERAL DIRECTIONS:***
Once everyone is on Post Rd
Proceed Southbound down Post Rd
(Make sure the number streets are going in DESCENDING order!)
Once you pass Washington St (there'll be an Amaco on the Right)
   continue going southbound down Post Rd for 1.5 mile
   and look for the sign for the Banquet Center on the
   left.  Pull in.  Park.  Dance!

Please print this out and keep with you =

during the trip.  If you get lost, remember
the following:

*   465 loops around the city

*   Post rd is better accessed using I-70
    and is on the OUTSIDE of the 465 loop.

Call the info line to verify!

317 592 9236

10PM-6AM
$15 before midnight (or all night w/ PJs)
$20 after midnight w/o PJs.

PLEASE NO OBSCENE or INDESCENT OUTFITS!

Safe journey!





Joey Coco
VP of Operations
House of Babylon Broductions of Indianapolis
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mike d hey what up im that kid that was asking about mix tape vendors
can you email me a list of of recent chicago house tapes im talking
like within the last 3 weeks you see im in panama and ive been down
here for about a month and im feening for some new house tapes please
hook it up>>>mrk

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if you have send me whats out and where i can get them?always
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On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Dan Sharp wrote:

> What in gods name do I have to do, to get a copy of his set from ID????

yeah right, good luck. richie's pretty tight on the bootleg tip. i've
heard crazy stories about him taking away people's recording gear b/c they
were attempting a boot. heard another one about a store in toronto that
was selling unauthorized copies of his sets; he or his crew (this is just
a story i heard, so all of it's iffy) busted in and just took a whole lot
of stuff as "compensation" for the bootlegs already sold. so, uh, good
luck. if you do get a hold of one, i wouldn't go announcing it publically.

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314/995.9215

Okay, the party is at Aloha Skate Island in North
County, where Vibalicious was held.

>From downtown, take Hwy 40/I-64 West to I-170 North. 
Follow I-170 until it ends at I-270 and take I-270
heading East.  Exit at Hwy 367 North (towards Alton),
go a few lights to Parker Rd.  Turn right on Parker,
the venue is at the intersection of Parker and Pattern
Drive.  

Remember to bring your ID.  Doors open at 11.  We may
try to start letting people in early so we can have
some folks inside when the music starts.

The parking lot fills up early, please park where we
ask as you enter so we can fit as many cars as
possible.

Remember, this is a non-smoking facility...don't
worry, we've made the smoking area larger this time
:).

Oh, and we will have big fans this time though I think
it'll be cooler regardless.

We have more sound for the main room, cooler lights
for the main room + more lights for the 2nd room, and
a better laser, plus something way fun for the chill
area.

Can't wait to see everyone! 

Tammy
Kindred Groove


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  How does a local house party DJ get bookings for the real big shows?

A buddy is curious from the lameity of house parties.
He needs our help.  

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Anatomical Gift Statement- 
   Upon my death wish I wish to donate:

__Any Organs or parts

__I Refuse to make an anatomical gift.

_*_Only the following organs or parts:
                           -everything but my boobies

Signed: Stephie Wefie (and yes that is my last name)
Date: 9/18/99
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Just thought it is important to let others know just incase you find my dead body laying around a rave. Thanks.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 21:00:55 1999
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On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 05:38:31   AlienSoulthief wrote:
>i have nothing against candy kids or 
>beaded jewlrey.  chill

silly rabbit, beaded jewelry is for hippies!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 21:01:12 1999
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I noticed a lot of hostile people posting things on this message board over
the past year or so. It's ok to voice your opinions. Some people seem to
think that by saying really bold statements and using a lot of profanity
they can get their point across and be done with it. But as we all know
somebody else on the list will disagree and then dissect what the original
poster said and here we have the focus of the argument on how the person
stated the comments and not what they were trying to get across.

My solution? Please make intelligent posts with facts backing up what you
are saying. Don't be so hostile when you post. It really accomplishes little
compared to an intelligent, well thought-out post. Thanks for listening and
I hope you don't think I'm putting myself on a pedestal, for I also make
this mistakes from time to time.

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>
>Anatomical Gift Statement-
>    Upon my death wish I wish to donate:
>>
>_*_Only the following organs or parts:
>                            -everything but my boobies
>
>Signed: Stephie Wefie (and yes that is my last name)
>Date: 9/18/99
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 22:04:32 1999
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Could someone hook me up with City of Grooves info line or directions?


thanks,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 22:29:42 1999
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Can someone hook me up with City of Grooves info line or flat out 
directions?



thanks steve

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 22:57:54 1999
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I don't think there's is a net meet planned..but just in case there isn't 
one:

how's
time: 1 am
place: by the Purdue Beat Society booth (Adam will be vending)

sound? 
if there is a meet planned...someone let me know...if not, hope to 
see you all there...I don't think many people are going but hopefully 
I'll see some new faces and meet some more people.

---
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 23:03:52 1999
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so is anyone on aol or i.m.?
just wonderin...im bored at work and lookin for people to talk to
**no-one-will-ever-love-me-lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 18 23:12:00 1999
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mememe!
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yeah. thats what yer mom said.
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we pretend to be.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tammy G. <tamarama303@yahoo.com>
To: STL Raves <stl-raves@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 3:17 PM
Subject: [stl] got directions? HERE THEY ARE!!!


>I am sooooo excited about the party tonight!  Miss
>Hollie brought one of my favorite old skool tracks to
>throw down for me!  Yippeee!!!!  All DJs are confirmed
>and several are already in town.
>
>Okay, the party is at Aloha Skate Island in North
>County, where Vibalicious was held.
>
>From downtown, take Hwy 40/I-64 West to I-170 North. 
>Follow I-170 until it ends at I-270 and take I-270
>heading East.  Exit at Hwy 367 North (towards Alton),
>go a few lights to Parker Rd.  Turn right on Parker,
>the venue is at the intersection of Parker and Pattern
>Drive.  
>
>Remember to bring your ID.  Doors open at 11.  We may
>try to start letting people in early so we can have
>some folks inside when the music starts.
>
>The parking lot fills up early, please park where we
>ask as you enter so we can fit as many cars as
>possible.
>
>Remember, this is a non-smoking facility...don't
>worry, we've made the smoking area larger this time
>:).
>
>Oh, and we will have big fans this time though I think
>it'll be cooler regardless.
>
>We have more sound for the main room, cooler lights
>for the main room + more lights for the 2nd room, and
>a better laser, plus something way fun for the chill
>area.
>
>Can't wait to see everyone! 
>
>Tammy
>Kindred Groove
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hey...i will be there...will be at the netmeet...the one that joe set
up at 1am by adam's table.......anyways...i should be wearing pajamas
<giggle> gettin into the spirit of things....fuckit...=) they will be navy
blue satin pajamas (long sleeves, long pants...) so if you see me, say
hello...

lates
lauryn

ps...what time is james pennington supposed to come on?  

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 00:19:29 1999
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So, somehow I missed like 5 digests....did I miss anything?

Does anyone care?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 00:56:04 1999
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tonight, saturday sept. 18, 1999

in Bloomington, IN (1 hour south of indy)

Rice N' Beans Prod. presents:

ULTRA VIOLET

w/ DJs:

Mike Dearborn (Techno / Majesty Rec. / Chicago)
DJ Speedy (Progressive Techno / BML / Las Vegas)
Skywalker (Trance / Buffalo)
Top Speed (hiphop scratchmasta / Indy)
Adam Jay (Techno / SUBterror / Indy)
Gizzmo (D n B / SUBterror / Indy)
d-phine (Breaks / Bloomington)

for info call:  812.335.2034

2 rooms...

party responsibly...


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added number six... hopefully next week... four more go up online...

http://beam.to/entro    

nada much else... unless you've got the japanese laser disc version of 'leon.'

i'm out

entro

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 05:05:44 1999
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complete this months member survey at www.raverporn.net and you could get a
new turntable

also,  we are still accepting submissions fo rthe dj contest , more info at
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 05:58:42 1999
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> 
> What in gods name do I have to do, to get a copy of his set from ID??
> 

Just wait until next month when the new Richie Hawtin Mix CD, DecksFX909
is released.  You'll love it, and it raises the bar for what is
considered a "DJ Mix."

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 05:59:52 1999
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Greetings mw-ravers!

After a 4 month vacation from the list I have decided to 
sign up again sporting a new email addy, formerly NeXXus8@aol.com.

Three cheers for finally ditching AOL! ;P

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 06:18:54 1999
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Is anything going on in Louisville on the 24 or 25 of this month?
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	I saw sumwhere that UFO! wuz going to be in Louisville..can sumone give me
the info plz!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 08:58:29 1999
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jason111 wrote:

> i've been to a couple of parties in masonic temples. the atmosphere
> is slightly eery and very cool. lots of mathematical references and
> symbols built into the various rooms makes you wonder just what it is
> that goes on there...

hmmmm people do not realize the importance Freemasonry plays within our
society.  We walk around on a daily basis with possession of and using
two of the oldest and most well known symbols of Freemasonry, just look
on the back of the one dollar bill.  On the left you see the eye above
the pyramid and below it "Novus Ordo Seclorum", which translated means,
"New World Order" and also on the right you have the Eagle with the
banner in his mouth, clawfulls of arrows on right and a bush on the left,
all of these have special meanings having to do with Freemasonry, if you
want to know there is tons of info on the web just do a search for
freemasons or related subjects such as "secret societies", "shiners", &
"ordo templi orientis"

it's all about the N.W.O. (New World Order) and this ain't Monday
Nitro...BEWARE!!!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 14:39:26 1999
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 Hi.. It's 9:20 in the morning and I'm extremely cracked out gettin
 ready to go to work, but I wanted to post first. Um, what was the
 deal at Pillow Talk in indy last night??  House of B has never
 really done such a bad job with a party before, IMHO. First, every-
 body shows up at 10 like it says on the flyer, and nobody can get in.
 They finally come out at 11 to tell us they can't open the doors
 until 11:45 when the police there.  I waited a total of 3 and a half
 hours to get in, luckily I had got there a little early so I was
 pretty close to the doors.  The turnout was unbelievable for this 
 party for some reason.  It seemed like everyone was talking about
 how stupid this party was gonna be, but then like 1000 kids showed
 up anyways..  

 The line to get in was as bad as, or worse, as Ghetto Fabulous a 
 few monthes back.  The venue overall SUCKED!  It had one small entrance
 with only ONE security guard.. and in the post from the promoter 
 last night, they promised an air-conditioned venue, which I don't
 see how they consider opening a few windows and turning on some
 ceiling fans constitutes as air-conditioning.. maybe it was just
 they crammed too many of us into too tight of quarters to notice any
 air?  Anyways, they STILL had the balls to charge everyone $15 
 despite having to wait forever to get in and miss the first 3 DJs.
 Another thing that pissed a lot of people off, was that after only
 about an hour of letting people in, they ran out of water. None of
 the drinking fountains worked, so people drank from the sinks in the
 bathrooms all night.

 Then there was only one very small room for the amount of people 
 they tried to pack in, so there was barely dancing room.  Not to
 mention there were about 20 some people that climbed in the
 windows after they shut the doors and stopped letting people in.
 I bet they turned away 2/3 of the line of kids there last night.
 Then back by the bathrooms, there was this area with some coke 
 machines and stuff, and security was bitching at everyone to move
 out because "it was a fire hazard and they were gonna shut it
 down."  But what they fail to realize, THERE WAS NO WHERE ELSE FOR 
 US TO GO!  The venue was just way too small to support even the
 people that did get in last night.  You couldn't walk without
 stepping on someone or running into people.

 I guess the music was alright, nothing too spectacular. I had gone
 to see Lars, so I was happy to actually get into the party in time
 for him. The lighting was so-so, and the fog was really starting 
 to piss me off after a while. They completely over did it, and you 
 could hardly see anything at all.  The funniest thing I saw all
 night was, before my friends and I got in, this guy fucked up on
 something comes stumbling out the front door, and starts to take
 a piss right on the bushes by the door, but he falls over in his 
 own piss and starts freaking out when these guys are trying to pick
 his stupid ass up!  I got a little annoyed with some kids there. 
 The same stupid girl asked me 4 times if I wanted to buy some
 shrooms.. and these stupid kids in front of me were screaming
 5 feet from the police that they were selling some "good K" and
 other DRUGS, and shit like that. 

 All and all, I was disappointed with the whole party and I wish I
 would have taken my $15 elsewhere.. Anybody else that went feel
 the same?

     /shandi




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 17:10:36 1999
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Greetings from the post-Mental Twin Cities.  Mile High would like to
thank all of you who made your way to Mental this weekend.  We had a
sick time watching some of the most MENTAL talent in the world!
Unfortunately, Terry Mullen did not make it to the party.  He did not
arrive on his flight and we have not heard from him.  As friends of
Terry, we hope that everything is o.k.  We apologize to anybody who
specifically came out to see Terry play.  Hopefully the rest of the
talent helped to make up for it.  We appreciate the support from you,
the partiers, who continue to represent and help enable us to throw the
best parties that we can possibly dream up!  Things are just getting
rollin!
Jack Trash, ESP Woody McBride, Rich Best
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 18:23:18 1999
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i dunno...i didnt get in...we got there kinda late granted, but we didnt
get in...got all decked out in my pajamas and everything...grrrr...

the venue has been used before and there were problems with it before as
far as size is concerned...my friends who i went up there with said if
they knew it was going to be in that venue, they wouldnt have wanted to
go...nice try with the whole "not posting the directions til the afternoon
of the party"....blah

there was not a lot going on in the immediate area (save bloomington,
which i should have went ahead and went to...saved the drive up there then
at least)...so HofB should have figured on a crowd being there...besides,
indy is growing scenewise...so people should wise up to the fact there are
going to be quite a lot of people going out now...

needless to say, i am not happy with it at all...i missed mike dearborn
playing here in town on a chance to hear james pennington...and i didnt
get to hear him...=P blah...

get a bigger venue next time already...geez...=P enuff said...

peace
lauryn 

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AlienSoulthief@aol.com wrote:

> i have no problem with "candy ravers" at all.  i was just pointing out that
> you don't have to be "candy" to be nice  and those fucking wierdos are the
> friendly outgoing people i guess you couldn't detect the sarcastic voice it
> my typed words. my post ment no animosity towards anyone.   you completely
> missed the whole point of what i was trying to say   : (    i was just
> reminiscing back to when everyone used to be nice to everyone not just "candy
> kids"    sorry if i insulted anyone. i have nothing against candy kids or
> beaded jewlrey.  chill

I don't know about you, but here where I live (Southern Ohio) a candy kid
is typically someone who is only into the scene for drugs and is only friendly
because of the drugs they are on.  They are also typically very young and
rather clueless.

"OMG!!  I'm rolling so I'll be really friendly to everyone!"

However, the 'old-skool' concept of a candy raver was somewhat different.
Old-skool candy kids are cool-- I've met a few.  My favorites are the non-
druggie types that make it their job to make sure everyone is having a good
time.  :)

Wow.. I posted.. I must be bored.



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Dan Sharp wrote:

> What in gods name do I have to do, to get a copy of his set from ID????
>
> I am willing to give up the following:
>
> 1st born
> left arm at the elbow
> big toe on either foot
> 2nd born
> cash
> possible trade for WIFE, but will need the WIFE back.
>
> I am open to suggestions..
>
>   Thanks for you time..
>       Love to ALL:
>
>          Dan Sharp (0_o)

I'll second that.  I am also willing to give my immortal soul for
either Hawtin's set or the Phantasm Records PA or any of the
other kick-ass sets from ID.

If '<insert-kick-ass-set> live at Interstellar Dreamfest' tapes
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Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani wrote:

> jason111 wrote:
>
> > i've been to a couple of parties in masonic temples. the atmosphere
> > is slightly eery and very cool. lots of mathematical references and
> > symbols built into the various rooms makes you wonder just what it is
> > that goes on there...
>
> hmmmm people do not realize the importance Freemasonry plays within our
> society.  We walk around on a daily basis with possession of and using
> two of the oldest and most well known symbols of Freemasonry, just look
> on the back of the one dollar bill.  On the left you see the eye above
> the pyramid and below it "Novus Ordo Seclorum", which translated means,
> "New World Order" and also on the right you have the Eagle with the
> banner in his mouth, clawfulls of arrows on right and a bush on the left,
> all of these have special meanings having to do with Freemasonry, if you
> want to know there is tons of info on the web just do a search for
> freemasons or related subjects such as "secret societies", "shiners", &
> "ordo templi orientis"
>
> it's all about the N.W.O. (New World Order) and this ain't Monday
> Nitro...BEWARE!!!

Speaking of strange occult stuff.. did anyone notice some of the wierd
occultic references at ID?

Things I noticed included:

All sorts of strange tags scrawled into the dust on objects and on peoples'
cars.. they weren't gang tags but were occultic symbols!  I thought it was
kinda funny-- probably the 'millenium phenomenon'.  Examples I saw
were: an inverted pentagram on the back of a minivan with the quote 'we
are family, we are one!', an upright pentagram on a car window with the
caption 'unity', etc.

Also, did anyone else see the couple of girls up by the main stage on
Saturday
night with matching t-shirts that said 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole

of the law?' who were dancing in a line?

If anyone else has read the book 'Illuminatus!' did anyone notice how the
setup of Dreamfest resembled the festival in the last chapter?  Complete
with the lake, the 'collector' and the little secret dome behind the main
stage?  They're emmanentizing the eschaton!!!!!!  (I thought about
running around and yelling this to see what sorts of reactions I'd get)

Is it just me or are people getting wierd due to the millenium.  I remember
reading about how church membership, occultic involvement, and other
'spiritual' kinds of activities are not only increasing but are getting
increasingly
bizarre and cultish.  The same thing probably happened last time the year
approached a <gasp!> nice even number.  :)

I've always thought an end-of-the-world parody theme new years 2000 or
2001 party would be a good idea.  Call it something like 'Behold a Pale
Horse'
and have the hand stamp when you go in be a barcode.  LOL  (Does Drop
Bass read this list?? :)



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Fuck A Rave!
The 49ers are on FOX!

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i'm watching this documentary and i did not know that ... when voyager was 
sent up into space in hope of one day flying the hell out of our solar 
system... they bolted four or five gold plated records on the frame of it... 
equiped with a stylus as well... each on the records labelled "the sounds of 
earth."  each record contains a greeting from each nation around the world as 
well as some other useless vocal information... 

i wonder what kind of stylus operates under zero g

entro

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OH my god...is it true..am i thie first to post a review?Wow.  Anyways. Here 
it is.

Doors opened at 11, and I got their a little bit late ( like 11:30) and when 
I got to the venue there was no line at all!  It was great!!!  This was the 
first stl party that ive ever been to, that I didnt have to wait in line for. 
 ANother plus for me ( besides the AMAZING good vibes, and the GREAT music) 
were the security officers.  I dont know if they got the same security that 
has done other parties or something...but they just seemed nicer than usual.

    The vibe at this party was just so great.  Their were kids their from all 
over.  I actually met a few kids that drove all the way down from Virgina 
just to go to this party!  There also didnt seem to be any shady people, and 
I didnt see one  person get sick!  And i LOVE when that happens...I hate 
watching people hurt themselves...

    I was sober at this party and I had an amazingf time.  All of the djs 
were GREAT.  Jon Gotti threw down a great set.  ALso, im not a big house fan, 
but i was loving the house at this party.I definately like house much more 
now.  I dont think ive ever danced so much at a party before .  I was 
bouncing between the second room and the main room all nite. I probaly was 
only NOT dancing for about 45 minutes all night long.  I ACHE so bad now. but 
it was definately worth it. I just wanna thank everyone that was at the party 
for making it get just tha5t great..and for the djs playing some amazing 
music!

Much love
Gracie

ps.  i wouldnt suggest going to denys and ordering eggs straight from a 
rave..they just dont taste right =)

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ok Mission Underground 2
majesty productions
at the mendell gymnasium
Someone from the UK could not come becuase of passports or something
was it the advent or oliver bondizo of hardfloor???
i cant remember
and who was the replacement?

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We walk around on a daily basis with
> possession of and using
> two of the oldest and most well known symbols of
> Freemasonry, just look
> on the back of the one dollar bill.  On the left you
> see the eye above
> the pyramid and below it "Novus Ordo Seclorum",
> which translated means,
> "New World Order

Hey don't tell me, 
everytime I look at my back in a mirror, I'm looking right into that
pyramid with the eye in it
"Beware"

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anyone know who produced the little whistle song?
Laine

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Stephie Wefie wrote:
> 
>   How does a local house party DJ get bookings for the real big shows?
> 
> A buddy is curious from the lameity of house parties.
> He needs our help.

fucking Dr. Thunder fucking TOLD you i dunno HOW
many_fucking_times?!?!?!

goddamn. here it is, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!:

ONLY play parties where da kids wouldn't know a skilled DJ from a
fucking hole-in-da-head, in-da-motherfucking-head yo; frat parties, IPX
parties, Rocky Horror Picture Show "cast" parties...... we've had good
luck wif dese yo bitch.

love,
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Miss Thang wrote:
> 
> anyone know who produced the little whistle song?
> Laine

yes, t'was_I_who made little whistle.....those fucked-up squeakin sounds
is me whackin hamsters wif a hammer.......

......pooptail.

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terry mullen didnt show. 
took lots of acid to compensate
FREAKOUT FREAKOUT FREAKOUT!!!!
--sorry if i said/did anything i would regret later to any of you who went--

ps happy belated birthday Caroline!

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sorry.


i jus amused da living shit outta meself an felt da need to share.

*big wet girlie kisses on der bottem*
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 22:50:42 1999
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> Speaking of strange occult stuff.. did anyone notice some of the wierd
> occultic references at ID?
> 
> Things I noticed included:
> 
> All sorts of strange tags scrawled into the dust on objects and on
peoples'
> cars.. they weren't gang tags but were occultic symbols!  I thought
it was
> kinda funny-- probably the 'millenium phenomenon'.  Examples I saw
> were: an inverted pentagram on the back of a minivan with the quote
'we
> are family, we are one!', an upright pentagram on a car window with
the
> caption 'unity', etc.
> 
> Also, did anyone else see the couple of girls up by the main stage on
> Saturday
> night with matching t-shirts that said 'Do what thou wilt shall be
the whole
> 
> of the law?' who were dancing in a line?
> 
> If anyone else has read the book 'Illuminatus!' did anyone notice
how the
> setup of Dreamfest resembled the festival in the last chapter? 
Complete
> with the lake, the 'collector' and the little secret dome behind the
main
> stage?  They're emmanentizing the eschaton!!!!!!  (I thought about
> running around and yelling this to see what sorts of reactions I'd
get)
> 
> Is it just me or are people getting wierd due to the millenium.  I
remember
> reading about how church membership, occultic involvement, and other
> 'spiritual' kinds of activities are not only increasing but are
getting
> increasingly
> bizarre and cultish.  The same thing probably happened last time the
year
> approached a <gasp!> nice even number.  :)
> 
> I've always thought an end-of-the-world parody theme new years 2000 or
> 2001 party would be a good idea.  Call it something like 'Behold a
Pale
> Horse'
> and have the hand stamp when you go in be a barcode.  LOL  (Does Drop
> Bass read this list?? :)

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Subject: Re: [mw] DJing for Dummies
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parties where kids don't know a skilled DJ from shite?
I thought that was all parties.
Boy was I wrong!

--- Little Spanish Eddie <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:
> Stephie Wefie wrote:
> > 
> >   How does a local house party DJ get bookings for
> the real big shows?
> > 
> > A buddy is curious from the lameity of house
> parties.
> > He needs our help.
> 
> fucking Dr. Thunder fucking TOLD you i dunno HOW
> many_fucking_times?!?!?!
> 
> goddamn. here it is, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
> 
> ONLY play parties where da kids wouldn't know a
> skilled DJ from a
> fucking hole-in-da-head, in-da-motherfucking-head
> yo; frat parties, IPX
> parties, Rocky Horror Picture Show "cast"
> parties...... we've had good
> luck wif dese yo bitch.
> 
> love,
> --MC PoopTail
>  
> http://poofin.com/arno/
> 01101111 01001000 11001011
> 
> I'd love to have fuckin' chairs
> in the room. Big bag of fuckin' drugs, a couple of
> fuckin'
> chicks running around. Fuckin' rock-n-roll, baby."
> 
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RaVeR1420@aol.com wrote:
> 
> terry mullen didnt show.

SHUT THE_fuck_UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO_FUCKING_WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????

i like terry mullen.


he is my good buddy in the mix.
he is on my side at last.
he is a good house DJ especially because he's gay.
he is on my side in the mix.

Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen

New School Fusion was a really good tape.
I liked it alot in the mix.
We listened to it on the way down to many Chicago parties.
and when it was over we listened to B96.

Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen

Terry Mullen is a very good DJ.
but sometimes he doesn't show up when he's supposed to.
He's still one of my favorite house DJ's though.
even though Justin Long is better looking.

Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen
Terry Mullen

Rock over London, Rock on Astor Shithouse,
Milwaukee's Best -It Doesn't Get Any Better Than This

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Jon Gotti wrote:
> 
> parties where kids don't know a skilled DJ from shite?
> I thought that was all parties.
> Boy was I wrong!

errrrrr. ya gotta point there.

howsabout "parties where techno et, all is for the most part, unheard
of."

i scared a buncha people @ Center St. Days Festival-Thing,
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ummmm.

nuffin.

sorry.
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hahahahahah

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 23:25:47 1999
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Hey all you silly lookin kids out there.
Its your old pal Jon Gotti puttin in his buck 25 on the party here in
STL this Saturday.
Got Vibe fookin rawked!
I had a great time, 
first of all, Misha, Tres, and Pixie, you guys should have come down
sooner, I could have shown you my favorite spots in STL, like the
crackhouse next to my apartment.  Oh well, next time.
We got to the space right before the party started, everyone was in
full effect with their "I'm one of Jon Gotti's Bitches" shirts on,
(sorry I'll make a shitload more for all of you people that wanted one
and couldn't get one, man im such a pimp!).  Those big screw thingys
were pretty fucking cool, except when the little roll bunny's decided
to use them as a place to veg out (wish I would have made it back from
Denny's in time to tacle there little asses!).  And Tres man, next time
we get out to  a party together, you better bring that pen laser, it
sure helps hitting the mark with my fooking paddle.  
Double X's Diana the dominatrix song kicked ass! even though you
couldn't hear it at first, "push push ooo ya, fuck me fuck me!".  (hey
everyone should book him, he's a great booty house DJ, hehehe).
Matt was good, 
I had a good time playing, even though there was no mic hookup, I
didn't get to tape the set because someone forgot to inform hypo I was
going to (i.e. the first DJ).  And the god damn needle kept skiping,
now that kinda pissed me off at times.  Oh, by the way Misha could you
get that pic of me on the net somewhere, please put under it the
caption "jungle bunny".  
Misha spun some pussy ass trance.
and then we all headed to Denny's where we proceeeded to piss off
everyone in the place by singing "music sounds better with K"
ah the afterglow,
thanx to KG for a great time.
big thanx to Stan for being a cool guy (one of these days I'll make
your ass like jungle, even if it means I have to bind and gag you!)
and thanx to Rica for being a nice guy, even after we left him to get
his ass kicked by a bunch of pissed off candy ravers.
Just when I almost gave up on this city, you all turn my shit around.
PEACE!!!@!!!!!
and RULP!
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Jon Gotti

Jon Gotti is this kid from not from Wisconsin.
I like the party reviews that he does.
They make me laugh.
Jon Gotti whoops a chinchilla's ass.

Jon Gotti
Jon Gotti
Jon Gotti
Jon Gotti

Jon Gotti is my good buddy in the mix.
He is on my side at last.
His posts on MW-Raves are funny sometimes.
He really rocks like a Magikist.

Jon Gotti
Jon Gotti
Jon Gotti
Jon Gotti

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sorry, forgot to mention one of the most important parts of the party,
(like you all wanted to hear any more from me)
The "I beat up Ian Hard at Got Vibe" video should kick ass!
Big up to Blue Boy, Anne Marie "smart-ass" Steinmos, Gracie, and Spike
for a wonderful ass kicking!
p.s. you gotta see where I WWF his ass
Jon Gotti, next wrestler on Monday Nitro!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 23:44:58 1999
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jason111 is a guy who is on MW-Raves.
He is my good buddy in the mix.
I met Him once at White Trash Wrestling Too.
He is on my side at last.

jason111
jason111
jason111
jason111

I think jason111 is a funny guy.
Not funny in a bad way though.
I saw him at a party once.
He gave me my new DJ name.

jason111
jason111
jason111
jason111

Rock over London, Rock on River Hills,
3DFX -whoooooo boy!!!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 19 23:52:31 1999
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> valerie
> AIM: valgrL17

joe
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:01:25 1999
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hey folks... 

once again it's sunday... yer relaxing your tired muscles... yer
wondering where your pants are... yep... it's Cracked Out Sunday.  We
here at KYND feel your pain, so once again we return to the internet
airwaves tonite to bring you even more insanity...

tonite... 10PM - 2AM... set those Real Players to
pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra

featuring:
.com
Dlux
Lee
Atomik
Kryme
Nujack

****************************
SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM DLUX:

IM GONNA ROCK THIS MUTHA FUCKA TO THE BREAKA DAWN. EAT A DICK CAPTAIN.

THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES, BOOSTER. BABY BITCH BLACK STIKE ATTACK WITH THE
DING DONG BASS. LIKE MY MAN LUNADICK WOULD SAY "what a 'g'wan?"

BUK! BUK!

hardcore will never lie.

**************************

as always... we will be chatting all nite in the #mw-raves channel on
irc...

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http://www.not-so-massive.com/cam.html

peace...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:01:37 1999
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yo yo yo yo yo,
guess what,
Misha aka DJ Tsar, had sexual intercourse with RayRay from STL, (you
know, everyones favorite candy ghetto raver who probably came from some
millionare family living in West county).  We'll, he did need to get
laid pretty bad, maybe the diseases were worth it.
btw. rica kinda got in that ass too, but he only gave her oral
gratification, and according to the chief-of-staf of the US govenment,
that doesn't count (your in the clear buddy).


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:05:46 1999
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Hey everyone, I won the contest last week.
And what a date it was.
Man its true, ghetto house DJ's do have big dicks!

--- "DJ .com" <phlurgg@juno.com> wrote:
> hey folks... 
> 
> once again it's sunday... yer relaxing your tired
> muscles... yer
> wondering where your pants are... yep... it's
> Cracked Out Sunday.  We
> here at KYND feel your pain, so once again we return
> to the internet
> airwaves tonite to bring you even more insanity...
> 
> tonite... 10PM - 2AM... set those Real Players to
> pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra
> 
> featuring:
> .com
> Dlux
> Lee
> Atomik
> Kryme
> Nujack
> 
> ****************************
> SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM DLUX:
> 
> IM GONNA ROCK THIS MUTHA FUCKA TO THE BREAKA DAWN.
> EAT A DICK CAPTAIN.
> 
> THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES, BOOSTER. BABY BITCH BLACK
> STIKE ATTACK WITH THE
> DING DONG BASS. LIKE MY MAN LUNADICK WOULD SAY "what
> a 'g'wan?"
> 
> BUK! BUK!
> 
> hardcore will never lie.
> 
> **************************
> 
> as always... we will be chatting all nite in the
> #mw-raves channel on
> irc...
> 
> also... watch us LIVE on the web at
> http://www.not-so-massive.com/cam.html
> 
> peace...
> 
> -pm-
> international house of boogie/Midwest Nutzack
> Massive '99
> ___________________________________________________________________
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:07:45 1999
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After talking to friends this weekend at the got-vibe denny's run, i was 
satisfied that others would want to be included in my 'info' book.

I have been compiling promoters and djs for a bit now.  I have been running a 
sort of dj exchange with several friends of mine and some other contacts.
The purpose of this system is a trade off of local djs to different places.. 
and an easy way to exchange information about djs (critiques and booking), 
spaces, everything.

Please email me back privately and i will ask you for specific information 
and try to get you hooked up with the people you need to talk to or the 
information you need.

Thanks

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:12:07 1999
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Make sure you all go and see my first movie!

TRUNK/Doug

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:26:17 1999
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4802810@skytel.com wrote:
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> Make sure you all go and see my first movie!
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> TRUNK/Doug

DOOD!~!!????

WTF are youse talkin bout, you wood alchohol-swillin, cat-shit-smokin,
gas-sniffin FREAK!!!???

i like movies.

love,
-aRNO

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:28:28 1999
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Jon Gotti wrote:
> 
> yo yo yo yo yo,
> guess what,
> Misha aka DJ Tsar, had sexual intercourse with RayRay from STL, (you
> know, everyones favorite candy ghetto raver who probably came from some
> millionare family living in West county).

shaddafuckup yo. everyone knows dat trance DJ's get laid even more
infrequently than _I_ do!!!!!

love,
--goapooptail
 
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01101111 01001000 11001011

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 00:55:17 1999
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although i would have liked to go to see beyer/liekenbush in mpls., i could 
not find a ride from chicago to the twin cities.  too bad, right.  instead i 
went down to wicker park to see what was going on and happened to be 
strolling by the mad bar around 1130 and heard some music and saw some 
dancing and payed my five bones and entered into a room filled with happy 
dancing folks and derrik carter on the decks.  i have never had so much fun 
at a bar, ever.  the after hours was nice, lots of room to dance.  i think im 
begining to like chicago after all.  

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I just thought I'd make it official  :)

maybe we could all chip in and buy you some meatballs ;)

yada, yada, yada.....
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I went down to Atlanta with every ill expectation and stereotype about
the south in mind - but all i can say is THAT PLACE WAS THE FUKKIN BOMB
and a HELL of a place to par-tay.

i had such a completely incredibley wonderous time i can't even begin to
tell you.  atlanta was loads of fun.  i had such an incredible time in
fact, that i think I am a born again raver.  My time in atlanta renewed
my faith in parties and the scene and the music.  I am a changed girl. 
My bitchy jaded-ness has been replaced with knowlege that there still are
fun places and fun parties and carefree people who know how to PARTY like
nowhere I've ever seen in all of my years of ravedom.

the seemingly impossible has been accomplished -- Atlanta has rocked my
shit.

the first party i went to was at (an apparently much-used venue called)
The Atrium.  It was the friday the 13th party last month in August. 
There was mad vibe.  The people there were just great - even the (pardon
my blunt-ness) dumb people were really cute and nice and more than
tolerable.  ohh....and were there breaks.  so many breaks, ..funky
breaks, even ELECTRO....  my god, I was in heaven.  I tore shit up that
night.  I was kickin it with the breakers and going OFF.  

SIMPLY JEFF was SIMPLY AMAZING.  oh mah gawd.  you MUST see him on a good
night -- he really blew me away, and I'm not easy to impress.  funky
breaks aren't even my absolute favorite breaks by any means, but I
couldn't say I could've been more impressed or elated during his set. 
there was a local on in the other room early in the A.M., and he kicked
my ass also ('cuz i had half his rekkidz and it was lots of fun to dance
during that set since I knew most of his tracks like the back of my hand)

I also went to FutureFest '99, and there was an electro dj on from
florida named DJ X who blew me away there.  Overall it was.....A Blast. 
It was a 24-hour party, and it kicked my ass.

Atlanta is kewl as shit -- you don't hear those tell-tale southern
accents, and when you actually do, they're charming.  Everyone knows how
to party, cuz it's a real party city.

I can't wait to get back for a second look, though i spent 11 days there.
 sorry i can't tell you every little detail -->  I'm getting rushed to
get off the computah....

I'm sure you get the message though -- atlanta rocked my @$$.  ..and
coming from a girl of descriminating taste, that means ALOT.

gotta fly...c-ya soon...

kisses,
jessica / jes c
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 02:08:18 1999
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well, much to my delight, I am only a mere 10 minute drive from Buzz
(which is now called "Sting", btw) and I could even take the metro (dc's
subway) there and  it's only maybe a 15 minute train ride.

A local kiddie I met there said that a few months ago, there was a major
drug bust there when the club was still under the name of Buzz, and it
was closed down for a little while, and then it re-opened at the same
location under the name "Sting".  Apparently it had been over-ridden with
crack, but the bust changed things a bit.

First off, let me be proud to say that that is the first event I've been
to in awhile where nobody came up to me and asked if I needed and rolls
or meth or acid or whatevah.  This wasn't because I looked like some
shady-ass cop or something, either, because I looked like a fully decked
out nautica-clad ravah gal.  The ppl I met were really friendly and it
was an experience that made me look forward to all the fridays to come
thereafter.  And I'm only 10 minutes away.  woo-hoo.  I got used to
driving two hours here, two hours there, running around the midwest to go
to stuff, and now there's something happening in what might as well be my
own backyard (well, even if that's a little stretch since I live in an
apartment 15 stories up)..

My roomie went to another club that nite, so I went to buzz/sting alone. 
It was kind of eerie walking around an alien scene where i didn't know
anybody, but as I predicted, I wasn't lonely after about an hour of
walking around in there 'cuz ppl are nice and I met some right-on peeps.

DJ RAP was really really good, though I'm more of a d&b fan now and she
threw down some wicked (but hard) tracks - good music is good music, and
it was $9.  no, not $19 with a canned good, not $90....  just nine bucks.
 wow.  I wish I had payed more attention to who all was spinning that
nite - I know it was a slew of kats from the UK and then scott henry and
a couple of other locals.  (I was preoccupied with either socializing
with friendly strangers -or- throwing down on the dancefloor since I
hadn't danced 
-anywhere- since I had gotten here, so I was going to DIE of pop n' lock
withdrawal or something, but i digress..) 

the layout of the club is as follows:  after being patted down and ID-ed
if your 21 (uh, or trying to be) you get your ticket, walk up to this
door where they take away your ticket, and then walk in.  that's the main
room, which is smaller than I had invisioned, but relatively spacious
nonetheless.  There's a "new" wooden dancefloor and the acoustics in the
place in general are pretty *nice*.  It's also well-ventilated and
comfortable, NOT hot as hades and suffocating, like other experiences
I've had.  From there you can go to a larger outdoor area which is
another wooden dancefloor, different djs spinning and places to sit. 
from the mainroom, if you continue straight you'll eventually come to a
really really freakkin huge room remnant of a warehouse space with again
different djs spinning different stuff.  there's an upstairs that I
barely bothered to check out and there's prolly 10 bars here and there
within the place.   I like Buzz (now "Sting").  This will be my home for
the next hundred fridays.  Oh yes, it will be.  :D

Again, props to the place for not being grossly cracked out.  I think
this might have to do with the place being 19 and up.  This guy had a
huge tub of freeze pops and he was giving them out to whoever - and
though i may be one to turn down the occasional blow-pop or pixie stick,
those icee things are pretty kewl if you're hot and thirsty from dancing.
 :)  there was a guy selling roses, and my new friend from maryland
bought me a couple 'cuz he was such a sweetheart.  :)  aww.  see? 
kiddies here are nice.

some general DC info:
the first person i met here, at the record store (12" Dance), was Jevon
Jackson from 
chi-town --> which was ironic ~ the 1st person i meet being from the
midwest.  I haven't been to any other record stores yet (gimme some time,
I've only been here for 2 weeks), but according to jevon that's the only
good record store in DC.  it's okay, but small and literally crammed full
of vinyl.

things are alot more expensive here - a salad bar at a sh*tty place is
about $10.

I've been through 2 hurricanes.  (now.)  they might be a bummer of
coastal living, but I'd prefer one over the tornados and tornado alley
and tornado watches and warnings and severe tornado-spawning storms so
there.  hurricanes aren't really threatening unless you own beachfront
property or something.  

I like the fact that i can drive for a little over an hour and go to the
beach.  I like the 
ocean.  :D

there's something to do in the way of clubs or parties everynite of the
week here, and I can't say I've ever been happier with the place I
reside.  (and I've lived in ALOT of midwestern cities)  

the only thing missing is ...some midwestern people...  if i know you, I
miss you.

*smooches* and Take Care  :)

x's and o's,
jessica / jes c
<3
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it was alright...but not worth $15 I payed for it...AT ALL.

I am *never* going to a house of babylon party for a *long* time 
(probably 6+ months)...

this was my first house of babylon party and I must say I was not at 
all impressed.

first off, we get there at like 10...when the first dj is supposed to be 
start...stay in line for over an hour before they say that they can't 
open the doors until security gets there...then when security does 
arrive, it takes 2 more hours to get in because they have 1 guard 
and 1 entrance for like over 1000+ kids wanting to get in...what were 
they thinking? I thought this would be huge, apperently HoB didn't or 
sumthing...anyways, standing in line sucked...and I think it should 
have been a $5 party from the way they were doing shit...the 
security were absolute cocks (from what I saw)...you couldn't sit 
anywhere...and if you were walking you couldn't walk with out 
stepping on someone...the sign at the door said pass-outs were 
allowed after 3, and then after 3, they told us there were no pass-
outs (WTF!)...

the dance floor was crowded but I had fun...as always, and yes, I 
was sober (this time) but believe me...the whole ordeal made me 
wish I wasn't...

well, my whole point is that:
1.) I had fun (like I always do at any party/gathering)
2.) HoB did not make a good impression on me and quite a few 
others that I knew who also had never been to a HoB party b4 too.
3.) HoB needed to get their shit together for that party because it 
was horrid. and if they throw another party like it...hopefully they 
learned what *not* to do

things I remember from the party:
1.) The 'squirrel' guy...
2.) The philosopher/rapper dude.
3.) "oh, they must be security" (while waiting for security to arrive)
4.) "hey, they're not with security" (after security arrived)
5.) "I need to bring a box full of records with me next time." (Patrick)
6.) "what are you smiling about?" (gozem to me)
7.) "excuse me, you can't sit here..."
8.) "we need everybody to back up..."

---
Laterz
---Joe

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 Hi, does anyone know if there is a party scheduled in Indy on
 October 9?  I have a friend coming down for northern Indiana, 
 that wants to go to his first party.. I don't think I've seen
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Somebody been watchin' too much Millenium??

Me!

The same episode with devils had one of 'em singin' Black
Flag!

That show rules ALL!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 04:35:42 1999
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Well...haven't been to a rave in a while...don't see myself at one soon (with the kid and marriage and all).

Am I selling out? Maybe.
Get to be 31, with child, married, and corporate...then see how ya feel. 

It just doesn't matter that much anymore.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I CAN'T BE THE SUPREME CROTCHITY ASSHOLE OF THIS HERE LIST!!!

Take care, kiddies.

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> I'll second that.  I am also willing to give my immortal soul for
> either Hawtin's set or the Phantasm Records PA or any of the
> other kick-ass sets from ID.
> 
> If '<insert-kick-ass-set> live at Interstellar Dreamfest' tapes
> don't come out I'm gonna be pissed.
> 

I'm sure there's a "Ben Mann, TOO-d@mn-live at I.D." tape out... I think
it has even been edited to squeeze in more talking and less beats!

Gotta get me some o' dat!

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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Little Spanish Eddie wrote:

+parties, Rocky Horror Picture Show "cast" parties...... we've had good
+luck wif dese yo bitch.

jaimmie is trixie (and dr. scott, on occasion)... go see her every
saturday :)

midnight at the oriental.

chad
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trunk@public-enemy.com wrote:

> Somebody been watchin' too much Millenium??
>
> Me!
>
> The same episode with devils had one of 'em singin' Black
> Flag!
>
> That show rules ALL!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 05:52:41 1999
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Me and some fellow cabbies were having a secret agent cab drivers' business
meeting at a local bar tonight (which means heavy drinking and loads of the
video game Crazy Taxi) and I happened to notice that Savage Aural Hotbed is
playing here in Iowa City at the Que bar this coming Friday, the 24th.  I've
seen them play at Stairway to Headphones and Furthur 98, and these guys are
a fucking trip...all kinds of machinery and whatnot, a very live pa, not to
be missed if you can help it.  The show starts at either 9 or 10.  It's a
19+ bar....$4 for 21+ and $5 for minors.  You WILL be id'ed at the door
regardless.  Any of you out-of-towners who are thinking you might like to
make the trip, email me privately and I'll hook you up w/ directions.

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I went to this new record store in Cincinnati/Covington and believe me it is 
the shit!!!! They had crazy new records and the people were all cool as hell. 
I had a chance to met and talk to Perry Ellis and Kenya Dubois. I think they 
may have something to do with the store but i am not sure. they were dropping 
knowledge about all kinds of shit music, life, DJs, etc. the store is called 
HotWax and the record prices are really good and i don't really spin.

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Well, I'm logged in to IM all day at work...cause I get bored as all
hell.  Gotta love your IT department- the fine art of making it look
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It was Advent that didnt show....But i dont think that a replacement was
added....Though im not sure.... I know Rolondo played, but i cant rememebr
if he was on the flyer...I dont think he was, as i was suprised (i think) to
see him there....



I dunno...Thats fucking 2 and a half years ago!!!!

I dont remeber yesterday!!!  *lol*


derek.




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>ok Mission Underground 2
>majesty productions
>at the mendell gymnasium
>Someone from the UK could not come becuase of passports or something
>was it the advent or oliver bondizo of hardfloor???
>i cant remember
>and who was the replacement?
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(unless your talking about a different one)


Frankie Knuckles


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>anyone know who produced the little whistle song?
>Laine
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there is a track called  whistle  from paul johnson
so there is another..
has this annoying whistling all the way through it.
old track

mike

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>(unless your talking about a different one)
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>>anyone know who produced the little whistle song?
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In a message dated 9/19/99 11:35:56 PM Central Daylight Time, 
4802810@skytel.com writes:

<< Am I selling out? Maybe.
 Get to be 31, with child, married, and corporate...then see how ya fee >>

hey yo .. more power to yo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just fuckin release the tracks 
and feed yer kids with that money ... mayb eeven MTV .... hahahhahah ... 

call me up foooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani wrote:
> 
> > jason111 wrote:
> >
> > > i've been to a couple of parties in masonic
> temples. the atmosphere
> > > is slightly eery and very cool. lots of
> mathematical references and
> > > symbols built into the various rooms makes you
> wonder just what it is
> > > that goes on there...
> >
> > hmmmm people do not realize the importance
> Freemasonry plays within our
> > society.  We walk around on a daily basis with
> possession of and using
> > two of the oldest and most well known symbols of
> Freemasonry, just look
> > on the back of the one dollar bill.  On the left
> you see the eye above
> > the pyramid and below it "Novus Ordo Seclorum",
> which translated means,
> > "New World Order" and also on the right you have
> the Eagle with the
> > banner in his mouth, clawfulls of arrows on right
> and a bush on the left,
> > all of these have special meanings having to do
> with Freemasonry, if you
> > want to know there is tons of info on the web just
> do a search for
> > freemasons or related subjects such as "secret
> societies", "shiners", &
> > "ordo templi orientis"
> >
> > it's all about the N.W.O. (New World Order) and
> this ain't Monday
> > Nitro...BEWARE!!!

For the best explanation of the significance of
the pyramids to Freemasons, check: http://www.
greatdreams.com/chap2.htm

Of course, you do realize by learning more about
the "Secrets of Life", you take a bigger bite into
the Forbidden Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.  However,
you must attain total enlightenment to fully realize 
what you are truly up against.

> 
> Speaking of strange occult stuff.. did anyone notice
> some of the wierd
> occultic references at ID?
> 
> Things I noticed included:
> 
> All sorts of strange tags scrawled into the dust on
> objects and on peoples'
> cars.. they weren't gang tags but were occultic
> symbols!  I thought it was
> kinda funny-- probably the 'millenium phenomenon'. 
> Examples I saw
> were: an inverted pentagram on the back of a minivan
> with the quote 'we
> are family, we are one!', an upright pentagram on a
> car window with the
> caption 'unity', etc.
> 
> Also, did anyone else see the couple of girls up by
> the main stage on
> Saturday
> night with matching t-shirts that said 'Do what thou
> wilt shall be the whole
> 
> of the law?' who were dancing in a line?
> 
> If anyone else has read the book 'Illuminatus!' did
> anyone notice how the
> setup of Dreamfest resembled the festival in the
> last chapter?  Complete
> with the lake, the 'collector' and the little secret
> dome behind the main
> stage?  They're emmanentizing the eschaton!!!!!!  (I
> thought about
> running around and yelling this to see what sorts of
> reactions I'd get)
> 
> Is it just me or are people getting wierd due to the
> millenium.  I remember
> reading about how church membership, occultic
> involvement, and other
> 'spiritual' kinds of activities are not only
> increasing but are getting
> increasingly
> bizarre and cultish.  The same thing probably
> happened last time the year
> approached a <gasp!> nice even number.  :)
> 
> I've always thought an end-of-the-world parody theme
> new years 2000 or
> 2001 party would be a good idea.  Call it something
> like 'Behold a Pale
> Horse'
> and have the hand stamp when you go in be a barcode.
>  LOL  (Does Drop
> Bass read this list?? :)

Actually Drop Bass is notorious for its satanic
icon use.  And the Massive boys have always been
pretty rude and evil.  Ironically, the giant
Dream Catcher was definitly spiritual symbolism.
Native American symbolism.  One Indian legend
tells of the birth of a white buffalo.  This
prophecy came true the week of Interstellar Two
in Janesville, Wisconsin.  There was another eerie
prophecy that came true at the time of IO4, having 
to do with a creator of a scene, Rabbit and the Moon, 
a Vision Quest, Sitting Bull, and the Great Spirit.
But that is Top Secret ;)
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DJ sofa kings a guy on mw-raves
and he seems to be halfway funny guy
He makes up really crappy songs for the mix

DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king


I don't really know to much about the guy
except he writes about 2 songs a day

DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king

DJ sofa king must get a lot of ass 
because he sold out and is now all hollywood

DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king


Lets all give DJ sofa king a big round of applause
and tell him to get his ass off the sofa

potato chips 
beer cans
lost of cheap porn

DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king
DJ sofa king

fuck yeah

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Hello everyone.I already know alot of you or alot about you thru my husband,Doug(Varsha to the trance fans).I finally have computer access and am on this much talked about list.
I heard there was some smack bein talked about female ghetto house DJs.Feel free to repeat it.I'd love to comment.Thanks to everyone who realizes that my feminine ass spinnin ghetto is just what this world needs, mostly because it shows how dumb a man would have to be to be singing things like "get off my dick-lick my balls" in a serious manner.The whole point of ghetto is to make you dance and DEFINATELY make you laugh
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i went. it was ok. i had fun i guess.

didn't get there till two, since that was a good hour before cari
lekebusch was supposed to get on. but fuckin terry mullen didn't show
(what a shock), which messed up the schedule, so i missed the first hour
of cari's set. grrrr. what i did catch of it was fun, a little slower than
i expected from the swede.

then andy c was up. three words: *fuck mc brace* he basically ruined what
could have been a good set for me. why the hell would you fly in a uk
junglist and then give him a stateside shitte mc, much less one that has a
strong reputation for having lame rhymes and being unable to shut the fuck
up and let the music speak for itself? my comment to brace: "a
ring-a-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-
ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding" over and over again does not
get the crowed hype, nor does it count as "dope." he must have been taking
lessons from blackeye...

then adam beyer was up, and he just rocked it. used a third source (that
new pioneer mixer that everyone's been all about lately?) to generate
tones which he laid over the beats so smoothly. did not play his full hour
and a half. my complaint here (geez, i'm in a crotchety mood this morn) is
that they split up adam and cari. when i saw them in melbourne they
performed a back to back assault which just devastated the warehouse.
*sigh* 

we left as soon as miss honey dijon came on.

one more negative comment and then the good stuff: there was no second
room, only a corner which was bleeeeeding. i could hear brace droning even
when i was right up in front of the second "room" speakers. no escape!
blah.

the lights were a little out of hand, but i'm a believer in the school of
minimal lighting. the visuals were awesome though. lots of shouts of
graffiti mixed in, which i'm a sukka for. and many of those big white
sphere things being projected onto, which is pretty neat-o was well.

the sound was amazingly good for the size of the system. yes, we all know
their speaker set up is taller and longer and louder than any in the mw. i
am convinced this is a penis size thing. but the quality was still good,
not sacrificed for quantity. andy c dropped a few tracks that made my
stomach convulse in knots from the bass, which was no fun. i had to spend
some time behind the speakers just to ensure i wouldn't blow chunks from
the sound. 

the crowd was an interesting mix, not the usual 90% suburban high school
raver crowd that gets so old. matt (demmon) and chad came up from urbana,
and i had a blast hanging out with them and showing them the town. i think
they fell in love with let it be. saw some kids from green bay that were
our neighbors at dreamfest, shot the shit with dan xanthous. i think there
were some other net dorks there, but i don't know that many minneapolis
kids, and besides, i spent half my time there hiding from mc brace (ok,
i'll shut up about him now). 

all in all not bad, i had fun i guess. glad i got a presale, would not
have paid thirty bills for this event. i was there for adam and cari more
than for the party itself, so my perspective is a little different. got my
dance on, which is, in the end, all that matters.

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To all of you who know and love my friend Glen, DJ Storm,I  have a great picture of him passed out on the ground somewhere near the trance stage at ID.Hopefully we will get it on Varsha's web page soon...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 15:11:47 1999
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> i dunno...i didnt get in...we got there kinda late granted, but we didnt
> get in...got all decked out in my pajamas and everything...grrrr...

dude! i am glad to see that someone did that! :) but sorry you didn't get
in...we had mad fun in b-town...

> nice try with the whole "not posting the directions til the
> afternoon of the party"....blah

hmm...how (dare i say...) shady....

> there was not a lot going on in the immediate area (save bloomington,
> which i should have went ahead and went to...saved the drive up there
> then at least)...

shoulda...could have come to the afterparty and jumped a passed out adam
jay! i know you missed that lauryn!! ;)

> needless to say, i am not happy with it at all...i missed mike dearborn
> playing here in town on a chance to hear james pennington...and i didnt
> get to hear him...=P blah...

review on ultra-violet (b-town) on it's way...

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
varsha
varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu
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the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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I tried to jump a passed out Adam Jay but he was too sleepy to care







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> i dunno...i didnt get in...we got there kinda late granted, but we didnt
> get in...got all decked out in my pajamas and everything...grrrr...

dude! i am glad to see that someone did that! :) but sorry you didn't get
in...we had mad fun in b-town...

> nice try with the whole "not posting the directions til the
> afternoon of the party"....blah

hmm...how (dare i say...) shady....

> there was not a lot going on in the immediate area (save bloomington,
> which i should have went ahead and went to...saved the drive up there
> then at least)...

shoulda...could have come to the afterparty and jumped a passed out adam
jay! i know you missed that lauryn!! ;)

> needless to say, i am not happy with it at all...i missed mike dearborn
> playing here in town on a chance to hear james pennington...and i didnt
> get to hear him...=P blah...

review on ultra-violet (b-town) on it's way...

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
varsha
varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu
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http://beam.to/varsha
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the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 15:19:51 1999
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Actually, there wasn't any smack being talked about them.  Someone was
wondering if there WERE any female Ghetto DJs.  
No one said anything bad about any that exist.

It's just that it doesn't need to be said, since we all know that females
can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.  And a female ghetto dj
is just trying to point out the looks and boobies.

Ohhh!  eeeeh aaaah hahahahahahahahooo ho ho hoohehehahEHAHAH
eheooheeeeeee!
hee
*rofl*
*wipes tear out of his eye*
Oh, boy.  I kill myself.  hee

Now get on with your bad self, you supah fly Queen B you!

=)
Kale

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Annie McClintock wrote:

> Hello everyone.I already know alot of you or alot about you thru my husband,Doug(Varsha to the trance fans).I finally have computer access and am on this much talked about list.
> I heard there was some smack bein talked about female ghetto house DJs.Feel free to repeat it.I'd love to comment.Thanks to everyone who realizes that my feminine ass spinnin ghetto is just what this world needs, mostly because it shows how dumb a man would have to be to be singing things like "get off my dick-lick my balls" in a serious manner.The whole point of ghetto is to make you dance and DEFINATELY make you laugh
> -Annie
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I can't comment on Misha's activity's (wouldn't be professional, ya know)
but there is picture proof of ricA gettin in close with lil Miss Thangy
Thang, yo yo. Misha's got 'em...where they at, punk??

sheeit

> yo yo yo yo yo,
> guess what,
> Misha aka DJ Tsar, had sexual intercourse with RayRay from STL, (you
> know, everyones favorite candy ghetto raver who probably came from some
> millionare family living in West county).  We'll, he did need to get
> laid pretty bad, maybe the diseases were worth it.
> btw. rica kinda got in that ass too, but he only gave her oral
> gratification, and according to the chief-of-staf of the US govenment,
> that doesn't count (your in the clear buddy).
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> Hello everyone.I already know alot of you or alot about you thru my
> husband,Doug(Varsha to the trance fans).I finally have computer access
> and am on this much talked about list.

i swear that the highlight of my day is NOT coming home and saying,
"Honey, today on the list, so and so said..."

i swear. i really do.

> I heard there was some smack bein talked about female ghetto house
> DJs.Feel free to repeat it.I'd love to comment.Thanks to everyone who
> realizes that my feminine ass spinnin ghetto is just what this world
> needs, mostly because it shows how dumb a man would have to be to be
> singing things like "get off my dick-lick my balls" in a serious
> manner.The whole point of ghetto is to make you dance and DEFINATELY
> make you laugh

hey sweetheart, i have one thing to say:

get off my dick...
lick my balls!

heh heh.

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
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varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu
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"You wouldn't believe it dude! I'm like
the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 15:37:03 1999
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> Actually, there wasn't any smack being talked about them.  Someone was
> wondering if there WERE any female Ghetto DJs.  
> No one said anything bad about any that exist.

well, there was a comment about female ghetto djs being "degrading" to the
female sex...

that was quickly resolved...

> It's just that it doesn't need to be said, since we all know that females
> can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.  And a female ghetto dj
> is just trying to point out the looks and boobies.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!
heh heh!!

Kale is a punk. :)

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
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"You wouldn't believe it dude! I'm like
the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 15:40:14 1999
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> Actually, there wasn't any smack being talked about them.  Someone was
> wondering if there WERE any female Ghetto DJs.  
> No one said anything bad about any that exist.

i said that it would be a shame if they did =)   but i don't feel like
getting into the whole ghetto house debate again so don't expect me to
repeat myself or reply to anyone who feels like telling me their opposite
opinion once again.


IN ANY CASE   (didn't feel like making this a separate post),
i was just reading my school's paper, and there was a short article about
a girl that fell out of her dormroom window and died last year.  besides
alcohol, they also found ghb in her system, so for some reason they felt 
the need to insert this paragraph:
<< GHB, which has similar effects to ecstasy, is commonly used at raves
and parties, according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse.>>
and conveniently neglected to mention the fact that it naturally occurs in
your body in small amounts.

now, i don't really give a shit, i won't go writing a letter to the
editors or anything, but it kinda irks me that they inserted
that paragraph, since it had NOTHING to do w/ the rest of the article (it
was about her parents suing the school - a whole other issue i could bitch
about for a while) and only serves to give parties (or at least the idea
of "rave") a bad name in the public eye.

but whatever, right?  there are more important things to worry about in
the world.  just thought i'd share.
**doris**



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Hey Paul, hit me back, I was wondering if you could fill me in on info
dealing with pressing trax.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 15:46:45 1999
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Um...ok...even if this is true...who the fuck cares?  That's THEIR 
business...not the Net's.  Show some fucking respect...posts like that are 
not cool...they're pathetic...I don't care if it was a joke either...it's 
still pathetic....grow up.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 16:02:15 1999
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Who are we showing respect for again? a goddamn mailing list full of
people who talk shit and bitch? COMMON MAN you can't expect us to be
serious 100% of time and talk about "raving" ... we gotta get laid too
:)

misha

p.s. i attempted to post a pic of ricA and RayRay on here but i guess
the file was 2 big...i'll post a link soon tho =)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 16:12:21 1999
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whee!! well, at least the before and after rocked, and the during was still
fun due once again to the abilities of mw-ravers to give two fucks and run
around harrassing ravers for amusment and sometimes profit (see jon gotti's
"i'm such a pimp")

Kindred Groove made a better-than-average effort. The party was held in a
skating arena (flashback: first StL party, Kindred Groove, skating arena,
Ripple Effect) which was very nicely sized for a one room party...not made
for two. The bleed into the second room wasn't bad, just annoying at
times...mostly because the sound in the second room didn't kick enough to
keep the first room's sound out. The second room was interesting...if you've
ever been to a skate rink, well, the lounge area was used for the second
room...what was interesting was that it had been sectioned off with thin
plastic sheeting with arched doorways cut into it...kinda neat looking, but
still not entirely effective when trying to minimize sound bleed. The sound
in the second room could have been much better...I really don't think it's
fair to relegate a sound system that can only slightly top my friend Sean's
system in his truck to the guys in the second room...just because they're in
the second room instead of the main room and just because they all got to be
on the flyer in little itsy bitsy print doesn't mean they deserve crappy
sound, but it was bearable. Keep in mind, I'm not going to get technical
here, I don't know the first thing about wattage and all that crap...all I
know is the sound wasn't loud enough...have I said that enough times?
ok...moving on...poo-poo on the skate rink people for telling us we could
have skates (props to ricA for saying to the guy "can we have skates?" "no,
this is a dance party" ricA: "it IS???") poo-poo on the kids sitting against
the walls, poo-poo on all the kids hogging the Tubular Twists with their
rolled-out, cracked-out need to LOUNGE the entire night in the middle of the
floor with them (silly raver, toys are for people who will actually play
with them, not use them as makeshift roll chairs) poo-poo on all the bitches
in the bathroom who kept giving me dirtly looks because I had the wonderful
experience of getting a nosebleed (OHMIGOSH!! What did you snort?? are you
ok??? *smack* fukoff)
At one point I felt like screaming "Hey, at least I didn't put anything up
my nose to get mine!!"

other factors: quick moving line (which I heard about, I wasn't in it), the
smoking area needed to be bigger, but that may not have been forseen...the
smoking area was very nice, and if KG built it, props. nice big space, great
price if you like house A LOT, thanks for the net-meet sign, and a final
poo-poo on only three bathroom stalls.

DJ's: got to see Mel again and meet his wife!!! Traxx married!! as Tres put
it, *damn* we are getting old...the only other dj's I really had a chance to
see were the Supahstar and his local pimp for the night...of course I'm
speaking of Superstar Dj Tsar and Jon Muthafukin Gotti. Jon rocked....the
only jungle dj the whole night, my island in a sea of house...nice dark evil
stuff ( his words...he wasn't lying) and a true jungle bunny...Tsar spun
more beautiful, uplifting, hard pussy ass trance...what was really nice was
that I saw more people dancing in the second room during those two sets than
I saw dancing in the main room all night...I guess better sound dost not
always a better room make ;) Plus, everyone in the second room was getting
down and makin a whole lotta noise...gotta love the energy....we Got Vibe =)

Yo Yo Yo lemme give mah ghetto shout outs n propz to da mid-west repraznet
yo...doin they thangy thang all nite lawng was da one an only ricA (awesome
to meet you finally...thanks for runnin around with me...next time we need
ta pimp da partay, you with your shooters and me gettin down on da ground
;)) Mistah Mutafukin Jon Gotti and his Alpha Bitch Angie....y'all gots ta
step dis way ferreal yo, soon, s00zi, who made a most fashionably late
appearance, Gip, who is a punk-ass for forgetting Tres' bracelet, but is
still awesome, cause he's Gip...and to Misha....that ghetto commie pimpin da
hoes...sheeit dawg, yo...

quotes of the nite:
"You know, that one song that I played that's all pretty" - Misha (who spins
trance)
"Hey, I have my ass-hairs peirced!!" - John Muthafukin Gotti
"Can I please have my picture taken with you??!!" - ricA to RayRay, who had
no clue our mission of the evening was to spot her and document the event
"happyhappyhappyhappyhappyhappyhappy...." - some random girl walking past us

and props to the ability of mw-ravers to always stand out in a crowd of
multi-list-meets...you know us, we're the ones not wearing fuzzy backpacks
and backwards visors and carrying cell phones  and op'ing
(over-plastic..similar to og'ing - over-gold)

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Theres a happy hardcore track called whistle. I take it that that's not the 
track being talked about.

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they were dropping 
knowledge about all kinds of shit music, life, DJs, etc.

hmm...

I wanna know about shit music too.

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I refuse to listen to any more promoters get defensive when we give
criticism about the responsibilities of the promoter to their parties and
party-goers. Alien Squad threw another fine quality Abduction this past
Friday. This was my third Abduction, and I refuse to miss another one. The
space was nice...the hallway leading to the outside smoking area was a bit
BRIGHT, but that is my one and only complaint the entire night (well, except
for Terrence Parker's scratching) Everyone was dancing, at one point I think
I might have seen 3 people sitting down inside....the smoking area was
outside due to this being a school, but that doesn't bother me, and quite
frankly I think it should be that way more often...less cigarette butt trash
to clean up off the floor. There was absolutely no shade...in fact, there
was such an absence of shade, that I think it's what made that hallway so
damn bright! The bathrooms stayed immaculate all night ( well, the girls,
and in the wonderful land of raving, I think these are the only ones that
ever really get judged) Free water again...I don't know how many times I can
stress that water is a natural part of your body...if you want people to
dance, give them free water. I don't comprehend how someone can throw a
party expecting people to come and dance their asses off, knowing they are
going to dehydrate just from the fact that they are exerting energy, and
deny them free access to the one thing that will replenish those lost
fluids...THAT IS UNHEALTHY PEOPLE!!!!!!! I have three words for anyone who
charges for water (or charges more than the cost of the water per bottle
from Sam's Club: GREEDY ASS MUTHAFUKERS. You deserve no support. Try
learning to make smart drinks...earn your money with something worth the
money paid for it...charging for water is pretty evil.

Ok, enough of that rant. Aliensquad knows exactly what they are doing, and
they don't need any petty politics, shiny flyers, or shady security to prove
it, and they don't have to hide behind any excuses after the parties over,
because there ain't a damn thing to excuse. In the immortal words of the
Nike ad: Just Do It!!

Dj's for the night: Bob-A-Dob (no comment) Terrence Parker was having an
off-night, it seemend...either that, or he does need to stop scratching over
his records...many times it was off beat, and it got a bit annoying when you
were trying to groove for a minute, and he would start scratching,
completely throwing off the beat...Matt Bandy....as usual, awesome set, nuff
said...he always gets me dancing...and whoever played the bleepy techno
towards the end rocked out naked... (not sure if that was still Matt or if
someone else had come on by then, we were in the back and I couldn't see
that far) It irritated me that so many kids always leave when the bleepy
techno comes on, but oh well, I guess not everyone can be cool ;)

pixie
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>He then joined some Anglican branch and now he integrates all forms of
>Electronic Music into his masses/ceremonies.  Can you imagine hearing
>trance/techno/Goa...etc, etc. etc.  at *church*?? 

Is this guy's name Rev/Pastor Fox? I heard about this. He has his 
sermon and then ends with DJs and everyone going crazy ont he 
dancefloor. 

He came to Denver last year. dis=c0!, you think you could fill us in on 
what happened? You were there (if my memory serves me correct).

I guess he even spins trance!!

anyway

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not sure what this is. I have deleted the attachment for obvious reasons,
but in case this turns out to be some sort of mail virus, I just wanted to
give you guys a heads up

pixie

----- Original Message -----
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> Test: Pretty Park.exe  :)
>
>    Joe Hughes
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 17:36:14 1999
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OK I asked around at work. It is a virus. Don't open anything with that
.exe. attachment.

pixie


> not sure what this is. I have deleted the attachment for obvious reasons,
> but in case this turns out to be some sort of mail virus, I just wanted to
> give you guys a heads up
>
> pixie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > Test: Pretty Park.exe  :)
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>I don't care if it was a joke either...it's 
>still pathetic....grow up.

YEAH!!!! I don't care if it was a joke either.....IT WAS STILL FUNNY AS 
HELL!!!!!!

shut the fuck up and laugh

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>p.s. i attempted to post a pic of ricA and RayRay on here but i guess
>the file was 2 big...i'll post a link soon tho =)

hrmmm...I bet you all want to know what was so big about that picture, 
huh?

hehe

moosecock

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 17:41:58 1999
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okay...guess what..it was a ravey joke.

i wonder sometimes if ravers are allowed by that (invisible heirarchy) to 
enjoy something other than raves... and if so, are 'secular' jokes included 
in that?


suzi/s00zi...yeah tha's right...eat it.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 18:09:04 1999
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I think Pixie about covered it.  Aliensquad always doe shit right, if
you haven't been to one of the Abductions, go.  10 bucks for great DJ's,
free water and free candy.  The vibe at these parties is always the
best.  Thanks Trevor, had a blast.  I especially liked the armbands that
said abductee.  When you gonna throw a booty house abduction?
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 18:24:46 1999
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If you missed the Chicago premiere at the Chicago Underground Film Festival, Better Living Through Circuitry showed last night at the MCA as part of ResFest 99. 

It's a documentary covering just about every aspect of rave culture missed by Barbara Walters on 20/20 and the Fox Files when they did their own takes on parties from the mass media point of view. After watching it, a part of me wished this movie would have been released much earlier when I was in high school so my parents could have known that I wasn't hanging out with a bunch of crackheaded candyravers. The theme revolves around the importance of technology being able to constantly transform the music and the scene. They talked to DJs in their studios (Frankie Bones, Wolfgang Flur, Spooky, Carl Cox, Roni Size, Moby and Keoki), performers on the road (crystal method, electric skychurch), promotors, flier designers, visuals experts (OVT), ravers, non-ravers who go to parties and of course candy ravers :o)*

A large chunk is devoted to the rave spirituality and how it is related to the drugs that kids use at parties. It was definitely NOT anti-drug although they did always stress the need to be responsible about the use of drugs, especially mixing them.
They justified the use of drugs by referring to primitive cultures that took mind-altering chemicals and gathered to dance and chant to the beat of various drum and instrument patterns that turn on/off receptors in the brain. They showed just as many kids that were stuck, rolling and/or tripping as there were straight sober, but everyone seemed eager to talk about their experiences. I guess it's the same when people who have never been to a party first discover that I've been going to parties for a while. First, they ask about the drugs, then about where they are, then about the cops. I suppose it's pretty easy to be excited about something that is taboo to people living in the real world.

The best part of the film is the NRG. It's been a while since I really felt an all-around good vibe at a party (Little Furthur to be exact), but this film takes everything that is the vibe and puts it into words, moving pictures and sound (there is a lot of really good Hi-NRG techno with some amazing visuals). I was impressed with such an open-minded approach to a life that I can hardly justify in my own words.

Tim
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>>Um...ok...even if this is true...who the fuck cares?  That's THEIR
>>business...not the Net's.  Show some fucking respect...posts like that are
>>not cool...they're pathetic...I don't care if it was a joke either...it's
>>still pathetic....grow up.
>>
>>Jim

I completely agree with Jim.  On one hand, I really
enjoy hearing about people getting laid--that's just
who I am.  On the other, I have to imagine there's lots
of people on this list (like a few hundred) who weren't
involved in that particular inside joke and really don't
give a shit.

At the very least try to make it rave related... There
could've been a necrophilic 3-way with DJ Funk's corpse
or some insightful glowstick insertions or something...

I think we should start an alternate list called
mw-ravers-who-get-laid so you and I could talk about our
various conquests (I'm sure you're all dying to know how
I finally lured DJ Rap into my apartment and then, well, NRR).

>>YEAH!!!! I don't care if it was a joke either.....IT WAS STILL FUNNY AS
>>HELL!!!!!!

You really thought that post was funny as hell?  I thought
it was approximately as funny as the fact that I fucked
your mother last night.

Aww sheeyat!



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Live
Love
Learn
Grow
Together
Pleazure presents
The Final Stop Along the Pathway to Enlightenment
Saturday October 9, 1999
Atlanta, GA

International House Superstar, Grammy nominee and all around pimp daddy!
ROGER SANCHEZ (R-Senal/NYC) Room II 2:30-6:30am
As a DJ, house music legend Roger S. can be found playing renowned events
throughout Europe such as Tribal Gathering as well as regular stints at
London’s Ministry of Sound and Cream.  As part of the S-Men Trio (alongside
Sneak and Junior S) Roger is one of the most celebrated House Music Stars in
the world.
As a producer his countless production and remix work includes artists:
Underworld,
Daft Punk, Sneak, Frankie Knuckles, Janet and Michael Jackson and has graced
just about every acclaimed major and independent label.  The pimp front man
for Roland Electronics, he is back in Atlanta for his only appearance this
year
for an extended 4 hour set!

and on the dnb tip, direct from the UK, the pioneers of atmospheric &
intelligent drum n’ bass for their last southeastern appearance this year
(Room I)
LTJ BUKEM (Good Looking Records/UK) 2:30-4:30am
BLAME (Good Looking Records/UK)  1-2:30am
MC CONRAD (Good Looking Records/UK)  1-4:30am

the DMC Battle of the Century: Room II 1:30-2:30 am
DJ CRAZE (1998 World DMC Champ/Miami)
VS. INFAMOUS (1998 W. Hemisphere DMC Champ/Miami)
an amazing 4 turntable DMC scratch battle you will not want to miss

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> > valerie
> > AIM: valgrL17
>
>joe
>AIM: KnytmareAD
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This was taken from the STL-Raves list from Joe Wittlich.....

MY WEEKEND WAS COOLER THAN YOURS, COOLER THAN GOT VIBE, ETC!!!!!
lemme just tell u all the story, and you will agree that u wish u woulda
hung out with me an my peeps instead of goin to the BEST PARTY ST LOUIS HAS
EVER SEEN.
FRI.-
     went to deep grooves to get a new record.  didnt see anything that
great, so i got some obscure, unheard- of- by- me- house.
     took my tables to my friend's big ass house.
11:00
     spinning all kinds of shit tryin to appeal to complete non- raver, non-
cool people that just wanted to turn on the radio to hear 107.7 or 104.1 or
some shit...so i started spinnin hip hop, which im not good at cuz i just
have some records for puttin on when im chillin

             (NOTE:this get together sported the WORST vibe in the WORLD!!!
it was crackleing in the air like static electricity)
12:00
     fellow cool person and fellow small time deejay Imran comes over.
gave me some much needed relief from the decks.
12:30
     FIGHTS BEGIN TO ERUPT THROUGHT THE HOUSE
12:45
     My used to be good friend whos throwin the party begins spitting on the
walls, pissing in the plants, ripping up the chair coushins, etc in his dads
500,000 dollar house. in addition, he mixes spoiled orange juice, yukon
jack, jack daniels, vodka, rum, gin, beer, wine, water from a cup/ashtray,
and his dads wedding pictures (torn to shreds, of course...you just cant put
whole pictures in a drink, ya know!!!!!) in a pitcher and begins to drink
it...i smelled it an almost puked and i hadent had anything to drink.
12:45
     indoor/outdoor sound system gives a final ckckcckracccckkkkkkk
1:00
     as i am packing up my shit saying "man i cant believe im friends with
theese people" to my girlfriend, the "owner" of the house trys to pick me up
and throw me on the ground saying "get your fu*kin shoes off the
carpet...yer messing it up!!!!!!!!!"
     Needless to say, a brawl ensues, dangerously close to the wobbly ass
card table with my life savings sitting on top of it.
     I get out with no marks other than a broken tooth, pack up my car,
almost run over the crazy drunk host, and go home.

SAT. Jarrett, the crazy dwunk, threatens the life of his girlfriend, her
dad, and five of my friends...gets thrown in jail...gets bailed out by his
mom who is being lied to, and calls me up to tell me that I am on drugs and
there are people out to get me.
    Later, he breaks into a friends house where he wants to move in, and
"cleans" it by throwing the cat box, kittens, cats, clothes, and food from
the fridge out the door.......
SUN. Once again, jarrett calls me....says"JOE ARE U OK????   when you called
me acouple hours ago(which i hadent) what happened??? u are still on those
drugs...and why are you walking through walls???you are gonna hurt
yourself!!!!"   i told him he was crazy and hung up

LATER>>>>>>>he goes to the house he "cleaned" again...throws the kittens
that we found out again...and ....heres the kicker..............RIPS OUT ALL
THE CARPET AND TAKES IT AWAY TO A DUMPSTER.
no cats, no carpet, person that lives there tells landlord to press charges.
at nite, .....he calls my girlfriend and tells her to get me put away for
being "on drugs" and walking thru walls...........

To Be Continued.....


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stumpyky1 & stumpmantx here

Adrienne Rahhal wrote:

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-->besides alcohol, they also found ghb in her system, so for some
-->reason they felt the need to insert this paragraph: << GHB,
-->which has similar effects to ecstasy, is commonly used at raves
-->and parties, according to the National Institute on Drug
-->Abuse.>> and conveniently neglected to mention the fact that it
-->naturally occurs in your body in small amounts.

<snip>

-->about for a while) and only serves to give parties (or at least the idea
-->of "rave") a bad name in the public eye.

It's time to take it deep underground.  The idea of a 'rave' as simply
a drug haven has been perpetuated and perpetrated almost to the point
of urban lore. I can't count how many conversations I've had that go
something like:

	me - Yeah, I go to raves
	them - Really?  That's where you can get, like, drugs.  Right?

The fact of the matter is, that after 7up, 90210, MTV, and a slew of
other corporate sponsors have sunk their teeth in, there's no letting
go.  Any kid with a friend who can drive and a lie to feed his parents
can make it out to the next big 'rave.' He can hear about it on the
news and in school and pick up flyers in the mall.

This world is filled with people just looking for every and any means
of escape.  So this kid picks up a big, glossy, gate-fold flyer with a
million dj's this and that in big tall letters. And he KNOWS, that's
right, he FUCKING KNOWS that he can go there and find all manner of
chemical substance to treat that pain and suffering.  His teachers,
his peers, his parents, his psychiatrist... they all shit on him day
in and day out.  

Take a look around the next weekend you party.  You'll be stepping
over this kid all night long, if you're not lying in a puddle next to
him.  And you know what?  Becoming catatonic for 4-6 hours is actually
fun for him.  So you'll be able to see him next weekend, too.  And the
one after that and the one after that....  until he gets tired of it,
or he figures parties cost too much, and he's already met enough
people to sell him dope that he doesn't have to go 'raving' to score.
Or maybe his mom was cleaning out her little baby's closet and found
his CRACK PIPE and now he's in rehab. 

Personally, I'm sick and tired of it.  I've seen too many cracked out
15 year olds.  I've seen to many fights over drug deals.  I've seen
too many robberies and o.d.'s and people foaming out the mouth whilst
telling me they're having the time of their lives.  There's nothing we
can do about it.  Let them have it.  Next month McDonald's is debuting
their new line of 'rave' happy meal toys - glow sticks, glitter,
plastic bracelets, and visors for all the little kiddies.  Rave the
fuck on.  Let's start building something else.  Let's start making a
scene worth writing about.  Let's re-invent the wheel, 'cause there's
too many motherfuckers weighing down this bus for any real progress to
be made.

It's gotten too huge and unwieldly, and the day isn't long off when it
will collapse under it's own weight.  Mark my words. There are too
many kids coming in for too many of the wrong reasons. Once you could
count on someone getting themselves educated before they managed to do
serious bodily and mental damage.  It used to be, if you were new, you
were there with someone old... someone who would show you the ropes.  
But now they hear about it and they show up and in ten minutes someone
will have offered them that dose they were looking for.  And they're
taken, hook, line, and sinker - because his big brother or some kid in
the locker room or some character in a movie said e made you feel
nice.  Without a bit of forethought they'll swallow that pill and
heaven help him if he doesn't drink enough water, or if it was just a
nice fat hit of ketamine or rat poison.  There's a million things that
can go wrong if he's not careful.  Ask yourself this - can you protect
all those kids in all those parties from themselves?  Nope... let them
have their rave experience.  It's like watching the local news these
days. There's just too much death and destruction.  Tune out.

I'm rambling.

one love,
Greg


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dgroove303

same thing on MSN instant messenger.


On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:24:28 -0400, Barney Rubble wrote:

>stumpyky1 & stumpmantx here
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>
>dgroove303
>
>same thing on MSN instant messenger.
>
>
>On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:24:28 -0400, Barney Rubble wrote:
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>>stumpyky1 & stumpmantx here
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>>Adrienne Rahhal wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [mw] nrr: aol instant messenger

varshaPTLF



bom shankar!
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>It's time to take it deep underground.  The idea of a 'rave' as >simply a 
>drug haven has been perpetuated and perpetrated almost to >the point of 
>urban lore. I can't count how many conversations I've >had that go 
>something like:

       >me - Yeah, I go to raves
       >them - Really?  That's where you can get, like, drugs.  Right?

Jeeesssshhhh!  Those conversations piss me off.  It is getting harder for me 
to defend myself when I say I go to raves.  Usual conceptions from my 
dumbfounded friends go as follows:  (these are notable quotes)

      "Isn't that where people have open sex all over the place?"
      "That's where people go to get high.  I know for a fact b/c it was on 
(fill in TV program here)."
      "So you are a big druggie, huh?"  Add disgusted look on face.
      "I heard that's where a bunch of people go to do drugs and the cops 
don't give a fuck."
      "Why would anyone want to do that?"

It goes on and on....when will it end?  Must we deal with the lashes from 
society forever?

Love to Rave
  Adrienne

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Ha, here's my weekend. Drove from Champaign on Friday with Chad Cumby and
managed to
hit LaCrosse by midnight despite delays and unusual circumstances. Got
drunk with friends Tina and Adgria, shot the shit about punk rock with
random people, and viewed LaCrosse afterbarlife. Spent the night, and all
four of us left the next day for Minneapolis. Stopped to see Chad's friend
Michelle in Winona, and made Minneapolis in time to go to Let it Be. I
bought some records. The rock and roll section looked amazing, but I
didn't have the time or money to scour it. I picked up electronic shit
instead. Went back to Jes Davis' place, took nap. Went to party about 1
O'clock in order to miss Terry Mullen. Shimone was just finishing,
sheee-it. But Cari put up a very nice varied set. Andy C is the fucking
best jungle DJ I've ever seen. I managed to but MC Brace aside for the
most part. Adam Beyer is like 7 feet tall. And he kicked my fucking ass
from left to right. I didn't get sick of swedish techno, and even at the
end of his set when I was almost passed out on the floor, my head was
bobbing. Miss Honey Dijon started. She's really fucking tall too. We left.
Went back to the Davis mansion, slept. Woke up a little later than
planned, got some lunch, played with Rocko the dog, and took off. The
drive's really not that bad with two people. I had no problems.

Mad props to Jes and Mark for their hospitality, and Minneapolis is a
pretty fucking cool city. Everyone should go visit.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 19:44:31 1999
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Jesus H Christ...we've been through this many a time by now. Why does
everything in this list have to be "rave" related? Because it's called
mw-raves? So who gives a fuck? We made a joke and we laughed...other
people do the same thing at one point or another...the whole DJ Funk
thing  was probably some inside joke originally too so WHO CARES. Just
because we're RAVERS doesn't mean we can't engage in other
conversations...this list is a just a medium of communication amongst
buncha people who happen to be friends...

Misha



> At the very least try to make it rave related...
> There
> could've been a necrophilic 3-way with DJ Funk's
> corpse
> or some insightful glowstick insertions or
> something...

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"HotStuffOL"

Talk to me, I don't care who you are!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 19:54:26 1999
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anybody for starting a list called  mw-non-raves-related? so we can all go
join it, and the people who bitch can stay here and talk about raves and
rave dj's and rave accessories and rave drugs and raves and ravers and rave
clothing and raves in their area and rave all day long?

ooh wait, that would suck, because then we couldn't talk about anything
raves related...hrmm, how about just having a discussion board where people
who live in or are interested in the mw and who happen to go to or at one
point went to raves and/or who listen to rave-type music can be a part of
any number of discussions on any number of subjects simply because we have a
common factor semi-uniting most of us? is that possible? Some of the people
on here I don't think I could ever be friends with, cause I can't keep up a
rave-related conversation 24-7...and god forbid that any one of us might
want to have a discussion with people we don't see every day or in person
about something non-rave-related...that's just a horrible thought.

Fuck the internet for making us think we could connect with other people all
over the world with common interests and talk about something we don't have
in common.

Rave On!!!
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okay, a store name and like address or telephone number would have been
nice to have... =) I know that Kenya DuBois was on the list at one time or
another, can you offer up any more info? as to what kind of selection of
music and stuff they have? I mean there are a billion different kinds of
techno and three billion people with different opinions about what's good
and not, and so if they specialize in something specific, that would be
cool to know too...

-Becky =)

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> Jesus H Christ...we've been through this many a time by now. Why does
> everything in this list have to be "rave" related? Because it's called
> mw-raves? So who gives a fuck? We made a joke and we laughed...other
> people do the same thing at one point or another...the whole DJ Funk
> thing  was probably some inside joke originally too so WHO CARES. Just
> because we're RAVERS doesn't mean we can't engage in other
> conversations...this list is a just a medium of communication amongst
> buncha people who happen to be friends...

hell, i just want to see the pictures!! bring on the naked ricA!!!!

woohoo!!!

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
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I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
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-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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Ha, I just signed back on after a week's absence, and I have no idea
what's going on! My code name is "BiggTitts01"

Matt

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:

> "HotStuffOL"
> 
> Talk to me, I don't care who you are!
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didn't someone come up with a private mw-raves list? Invite only and 
shit? I think it waas like a year ago.......

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Does anyone know anything phat happening this weekend in Detroit? I heard 
about Transformers but I don't know much about it. If anyone's got any info, 
lemme know. Help me out yo. *much thanks*
<Tara P

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 20:14:54 1999
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>Does anyone know anything phat happening this weekend in Detroit? I heard
>about Transformers but I don't know much about it. If anyone's got any 
>info,
>lemme know. Help me out yo. *much thanks*
><Tara P
>

Yeah, lemme know 2.  Thanks!

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 LOL!  The squirrel guy was in front of my friends and I at one point,
 and we was obsessing over it and he kept demanding that we pet it, 
 because it was real and shit. That boy was seriously on something.

 That police officer was being a real asshole. Some guy next to me
 simply asked him if they were going to shut the damn thing down,
 and he said something like.. God I wish I could you crazy raver fag..
 or something, I swear. I know there's nothing you can do about it,
 cuz cops get away with whatever the hell they want, but still.. that's
 out of line.

 Anyone else see the crazy guy that came up from Louisville wearing the
 red shirt that said like DRUGS ARE MY LIFE or something.. he kept 
 rambling to me about how he used to be a pharmacist so he could steal
 drugs and shit..  And did anyone else see the guy stumble out the
 front doors and start taking a piss, then fall over in his own piss
 and start freaking out cause some guys were trying to pick him up?

 God, for being such a bad party.. I had fun, too!

    peace.

  /shandi



> things I remember from the party:
>1.) The 'squirrel' guy...
>2.) The philosopher/rapper dude.
>3.) "oh, they must be security" (while waiting for security to arrive)

>8.) "we need everybody to back up..."




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 Ok, about 3 people have responded to me with different parties that
 are supposedly going on in indy on october 9.. I was on hyperreal
 today and the calendar has some party called Pass on the vibe or 
 something listed for indy oct. 9. Anybody have official info, please
 post or pass it my way...

 peace.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 20 20:42:01 1999
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I guess my ass got chewed...

I have no problem with NRR posts.  Half of my posts
are NRR. I DO get a little annoyed by NRR posts that:

(1) Don't have "NRR" in the subject heading so I
don't know that I should delete them.

(2) Are inside jokes.  There's 500+ people on this
list, and the vast majority of us weren't there that
night with Rica and RayRay to really "get" this post.
If you were there, congratulations.

(3) Are offensive.  Joking about how X and Y had sex
is just bad form, unless it's obvious you're joking,
which it wasn't.  And I'm no conservative priss, I
just don't like to see (what at the time appeared to
be) such disrespect.  I wasn't there, I don't know
better.

(4) Are dumb.  And not dumb in a good or clever way,
but just dumb.  People actually thought that was funny?
I got over that kind of stupid sexual humour when I
graduated from Middle School.  When I made the "fuck
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---------

My last post was an attempt to say these things without
appearing hostile (and just joking along a little), because
I honestly didn't mean to contribute to a flame war, but
apparently everything has to be a flame war on this list.

Discretion and etiquette are good things!  Use them!  I'm
not advocating anything here that isn't already in the FAQ.

Maybe I am being a little bit hypocritical.  But please
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And no, Pixie, you're not allowed to (a) have friends or (b)
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hey everyone, i have a friend going to minn. on the 28 and staying for the 
weekend if there's gonna be a party, can you guys help my friend out. if you 
know of any parties on that weekend can you please email me back and  let me 
know. it'll be much appreciated....


Luv ya, talk to you later
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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, tara phillips wrote:

> Does anyone know anything phat happening this weekend in Detroit? I heard 
> about Transformers but I don't know much about it. If anyone's got any info, 
> lemme know. Help me out yo. *much thanks*
> <Tara P

here you go......yo.  i hope these parties are phat enough for your
tastes.

there are 2 parties on saturday, tranceformers and twilight.
tranceformers has thomas michael, mars and mystr-e, drc, jason blakemore,
and a few locals.  info: 810.220.9883.
twilight has little louie vega (doing a 6hr set), ninjaboy, and dave and 
courtney.  info: 248.988.0365
dunno bout the prices, but i think saying that they'll be overpriced will
be a safe assumption.

there are also 2 smaller parties on friday.  strobe (legal alien,
whistleboi, melody, n-durance, darkwater, trancender - 734.326.5105, $10)
and made in detroit (punisher, daryl steele, magda and minx, jeff woodward
and whistleboi [w00p, double-booking, rockstar style baybee], angelboi -
810.856.2070)

wow am i in the loop or WHAT?!
i am so cool.
**doris**


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they play it always

its some guy narrating the 'origins' of house music or somethin???

its so.... different. In HIS house there is HOUSE music (i wish i didnt kill 
my brain.. i could remember who that was spinnin') but anyhoo, does anybody 
know what im talking about? 

loopy la zippy ska woo woo candy muah plur
joe

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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Candy Raver wrote:

> If you missed the Chicago premiere at the Chicago Underground Film
> Festival, Better Living Through Circuitry showed last night at the MCA
> as part of ResFest 99.

any idea how those of us *not* living in chicago could go about seeing
this?  is it gonna come to independent theaters and be impossible to
catch, like modulations?

> 
> showed just as many kids that were stuck, rolling and/or tripping as

stuck???


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Tranceformers:

Sat. Sept. 25th.
810..220..9883

Line Up:

Thomas Michael
Marrs&Mystre
DRC
Jason Blakemore
Wilhelm K
CDX
Scotty V

$20 presale (tickets went out Saturday to the stores)
$20 at door w/out of state ID
$25 at door
$30 after 12:30am

There's also Twilight on Saturday the 25th...but the flyer's at home and I'm 
at work.  :P  It's the Little Louie Vega party.  If noone posts the info 
before I get home, I'll hit you back.

Later,

Bop

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>  Ok, about 3 people have responded to me with different parties that
>  are supposedly going on in indy on october 9.. I was on hyperreal
>  today and the calendar has some party called Pass on the vibe or 
>  something listed for indy oct. 9. Anybody have official info, please
>  post or pass it my way...

well, if you knew what was good for you, you'd be at subliminal...you
can't beat this price and the talent with a stick. (well, maybe the
talent, but only if you ask them nicely...)

i know where i will be...

---

On October 9, 1999 in Indianapolis, IN...

 SUBterror and The Purple Underground present:

SUBliminal

featuring extended sets by (in order of appearance):

J Cross (d n b-SUBterror) - his final Indy appearance before departing
for enemy infiltration

Adam Jay (techno-SUBterror/Azure Records) - bludgeoning will occur

DJ Shiva (techno-SUBterror/The Goddess Complex) - fresh from
terrorizing Interstellar Dreamfest...anything could happen...

Matt Bandy (techno & house-SUBterror/Alien Squad) - twisting the
boundaries of techno and house, get ready to shake yo booty

doors open at 12 am...$5 at the door...no guest list (geez, it's $5)

Low prices...good music...NO BULLSHIT

for info and directions: 317.335.MIXX

supporting vm:

Azure Records 317.767.5962
Beatnix 317.335.4475


bom shankar!
--varsha

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I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

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> they play it always

> its some guy narrating the 'origins' of house music or somethin???

> its so.... different. In HIS house there is HOUSE music (i wish i didnt
> kill
> my brain.. i could remember who that was spinnin') but anyhoo, does
> anybody
> know what im talking about?

-------------------------

In the beginning there was Jack, and Jack had a groove. And from this
groove came the groove of all grooves. And while one day viciously
throwing down on his box Jack declared 'Let there be house music' and
house music was born. I am, you see, I am the creator and this is my
house, and in my house there is only house music.

But I am not so selfish because once you enter my house it then
becomes our house and our house music.

And you see no one owns house music because house music is a universal
language spoken and understood by all. You see house is a feeling that
no one can understand really unless you are deep into the vibe of
house. House is an uncontrollable desire to jack your body. And as I
told you before, this is our house, and our house music, and in every
house there is a people, and in this house the people is jack.

And some of you may wonder, who is Jack and what is it that Jack does?
Jack is the one who gives you the power to jack your body. Jack is the
one who gives you the power to do the snake. Jack is the one who gives
you the key to the weekly world. Jack is the one who learns you to
work your body. Jack is the one who can bring nations and nations of
all jackers together under the one house.

You may be black, you may be white, you may be Jew or gentile it
doesn't make no difference in our house.





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!

it's Jack, hon...

somebody else can tell you the name and the person who wrote it, but we (my
friends and I) always referred to it as Jack the Biscuit, and it's been
waaay too long ago for me to remember why

In the beginning there was Jack, and Jack had a groove, and from this groove
came the groove of all grooves, and while one day viciously throwing down in
his box, Jack boldly declared, "let there be house" and house music was
born. "I am, you see, I am the creator, and this is my house, and in my
house there is only house music.  but I am not so selfish, because once
you've been to my house, it then becomes our house and our house music.  And
you see, no one man owns house, because house music is a universal makeup
spoken and understood by all, you see, house is a feeling, and no one can
understand the feeling unless he's deep into our house.  House is an
uncontrollable desire to jack your body, and as I told you before, this is
our house and our house music, and every cop should understand that for the
people, and in this house of the people is Jack.  Now some of you might
wonder, who is Jack, and what it is that Jack does.  Jack is the one who
gives you the power to do a state, Jack is the one who gives you THE KEY to
the way we were, Jack is the one who learns you how to work your body, Jack
is the one that can bring NATIONS OF ALL PEOPLES TOGETHER under one house.
You may be black, you may be white, you may be Jew or gentile, it don't make
no difference in our house....

pixie
<who has no worries about this message clogging the list, because it is
super-rave related>


> they play it always
>
> its some guy narrating the 'origins' of house music or somethin???
>
> its so.... different. In HIS house there is HOUSE music (i wish i didnt
kill
> my brain.. i could remember who that was spinnin') but anyhoo, does
anybody
> know what im talking about?
>
> loopy la zippy ska woo woo candy muah plur
> joe
>
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Pleazure / Atlanta is ecstatic to be the southeast coordinator/promoter of
*GLOBAL DANCE 2000*
this is a 5 week run in Cancun, Mexico
the dates run from Feb 20-March 26
you chose the week you would like to attend
some of the artists confirmed:
JEFF MILLS
PAUL OAKENFOLD
DAVE RAPLH
ERICK MORILLO
CAJMERE/GREEN VELVET
FRANKIE BONES
GROOVERIDER
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DERRICK CARTER
DAVE CLARKE
WOODY MCBRIDE
STICKMEN
PAUL WALKER
ANNE SAVAGE
JOHNNY FIASCO
Atlanta's own DEAN COLEMAN
and many many more
there are over 40+ world renowned DJs to be at this event

6 nights of clubbing and one outdoor festival on a deserted island
AND GET THIS entertainment fee which includes ALL 7 nights of talent AND all
you can drink for $99 there will be travel/hotel packages available or you
may chose to find your own way there!

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ok, so right, i actually wrote stuff already about got vibe yesterday when i got home, but sumfin fud up...so i must start anew. I actually think my posts showed on stl-raves, but oh well, here is me sayin how things are again....

WOWIE ZOWIE! GOT VIBE was sooooooooooo awesome!!! Everything was great, hooray for KG, and hooray for the kidz, handclappin, whistles blowin! 
The Djs were outstanding. Jon (GOD)ti, goddamn brutha, he don't never be givin a sistah a brizzeak!  I was nonstop dancing, 'cept when i thought i was gonna die from heavy beats stompin all over me.  Mista gotti, you make me wanna leave the one I'm with, start a new relationship...pssshhh, not likely, damn you Djs are such whores. teehee. um, anyhow, Tsar ripped it all apart, and I had to throw Derick into the room, cuz he would have missed out on some serious shit. I went outside during part of miss holly's set, and i heard this really beautiful song, very affective with an emotional piano piece. Me  being the friggen pank that I am, stayed outside 'cause I thought it was coming from someone's car....omg how stupid am I. So when I came back in and saw all the kids in tears with their sprits elevated to the sky, I nearly committed sepuku. Imagine, a rave warrior missing out on the most emotionally intimate moment of the night. UGH!!! But I let it go, so what if I lost out on mass catharsis?!! ;(  
Anyhow, I was really impresses with Mary Jane, being that she was the last Dj in the big room and was the last trance artist after many before, she really kept the people movin'. Seriously, she hit it hard, and no one, no one, was allowed to quit on her. It was like we were all locked in some sort of bondage with her music. A slavery that no one could resist, however. We wanted to be her bitch. But I dunno why she calls herself Mary Jane, after her set i felt like I had been puffing on crack!!  I was some majorly devastated humanity, it was so crazy. I loved the smaller room the most, but I did manage to not neglect the hypnotic house that kicked my ass at the beginning in the rink area.  It took people a while to move their bodies. I guess they had to lose their inhibitions. See, i never even bring mine with me to a party. I will dance and dance no matter how fuckin dumb I look. that is exactly what I did. But how could anyone not? If you were not movin the whole night than you were either  E-tarded, or just someone who needs some help, cuz honey, you missed out. 
Alright, so the net meet was short but sweet, it was good to put faces to the screen names. Thanx Toby for the very helpful name tags. And of course, it was absolutely wonderful to see the people who are always huggin me at every party; nice to see you all again. 
I noticed an unnatural number of unmoving masses of people just lyin' on the sides of the rink....hmmm. I am going to remain neutral on the whole drug thing, it really is a matter of making the decisions that are right for you, but I will not, will not, become indifferent on the issue of dancing. Uh uh, momma aint havin none of dat. When the song said "you should be dancin'", you should have pulled yourself off the floor, and moved your ass. Really, it doesn't matter if you do the funky chicken or the funky broadway, I just wanna see you groove. 
To the folks who were cuttin' a rug out on the floor, hell yes. So many were pulling out their bag O' tricks and just going nonstop. And those breakers were terrific, that girl from tennessee destroyed gravity's wishes.  
Okay, so i will try and wrap this up, thanx for still readin', by the way.   
As i left the party I spied some  kids  who were playing a happy hardcore anthem from their car, I couldn't resist. We waved from across the street and then danced as if the party had simply relocated itself to the parking lot. How fun  is that. 
Afterwards, I had a most interesting time at the waffle house. (howdy mike! thanx for bruno da kid, richard.)  We were solicited for church attendance by an elderly and slightly abrasive gentleman, but we gracefully declined. He noticed my Jesus T-shirt (yes, i will say it again, Jesus does save...at Shop 'n Save,) alas, it was no use in trying to convince him that we were simply on a christian overnight. Well, it was kind of true... I  mean, it definitely was a religious experience. 
anyhow, thanx for such a great party KG, and thanx to all the good kids for feeding the scene energy so that these happenings can continue. 
YAY!!! :) 
Raving for Jesus,
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ok, so right, i actually wrote stuff already about got vibe yesterday when i got home, but sumfin fud up...so i must start anew. I actually think my posts showed on stl-raves, but oh well, here is me sayin how things are again....

WOWIE ZOWIE! GOT VIBE was sooooooooooo awesome!!! Everything was great, hooray for KG, and hooray for the kidz, handclappin, whistles blowin! 
The Djs were outstanding. Jon (GOD)ti, goddamn brutha, he don't never be givin a sistah a brizzeak!  I was nonstop dancing, 'cept when i thought i was gonna die from heavy beats stompin all over me.  Mista gotti, you make me wanna leave the one I'm with, start a new relationship...pssshhh, not likely, damn you Djs are such whores. teehee. um, anyhow, Tsar ripped it all apart, and I had to throw Derick into the room, cuz he would have missed out on some serious shit. I went outside during part of miss holly's set, and i heard this really beautiful song, very affective with an emotional piano piece. Me  being the friggen pank that I am, stayed outside 'cause I thought it was coming from someone's car....omg how stupid am I. So when I came back in and saw all the kids in tears with their sprits elevated to the sky, I nearly committed sepuku. Imagine, a rave warrior missing out on the most emotionally intimate moment of the night. UGH!!! But I let it go, so what if I lost out on mass catharsis?!! ;(  
Anyhow, I was really impresses with Mary Jane, being that she was the last Dj in the big room and was the last trance artist after many before, she really kept the people movin'. Seriously, she hit it hard, and no one, no one, was allowed to quit on her. It was like we were all locked in some sort of bondage with her music. A slavery that no one could resist, however. We wanted to be her bitch. But I dunno why she calls herself Mary Jane, after her set i felt like I had been puffing on crack!!  I was some majorly devastated humanity, it was so crazy. I loved the smaller room the most, but I did manage to not neglect the hypnotic house that kicked my ass at the beginning in the rink area.  It took people a while to move their bodies. I guess they had to lose their inhibitions. See, i never even bring mine with me to a party. I will dance and dance no matter how fuckin dumb I look. that is exactly what I did. But how could anyone not? If you were not movin the whole night than you were either  E-tarded, or just someone who needs some help, cuz honey, you missed out. 
Alright, so the net meet was short but sweet, it was good to put faces to the screen names. Thanx Toby for the very helpful name tags. And of course, it was absolutely wonderful to see the people who are always huggin me at every party; nice to see you all again. 
I noticed an unnatural number of unmoving masses of people just lyin' on the sides of the rink....hmmm. I am going to remain neutral on the whole drug thing, it really is a matter of making the decisions that are right for you, but I will not, will not, become indifferent on the issue of dancing. Uh uh, momma aint havin none of dat. When the song said "you should be dancin'", you should have pulled yourself off the floor, and moved your ass. Really, it doesn't matter if you do the funky chicken or the funky broadway, I just wanna see you groove. 
To the folks who were cuttin' a rug out on the floor, hell yes. So many were pulling out their bag O' tricks and just going nonstop. And those breakers were terrific, that girl from tennessee destroyed gravity's wishes.  
Okay, so i will try and wrap this up, thanx for still readin', by the way.   
As i left the party I spied some  kids  who were playing a happy hardcore anthem from their car, I couldn't resist. We waved from across the street and then danced as if the party had simply relocated itself to the parking lot. How fun  is that. 
Afterwards, I had a most interesting time at the waffle house. (howdy mike! thanx for bruno da kid, richard.)  We were solicited for church attendance by an elderly and slightly abrasive gentleman, but we gracefully declined. He noticed my Jesus T-shirt (yes, i will say it again, Jesus does save...at Shop 'n Save,) alas, it was no use in trying to convince him that we were simply on a christian overnight. Well, it was kind of true... I  mean, it definitely was a religious experience. 
anyhow, thanx for such a great party KG, and thanx to all the good kids for feeding the scene energy so that these happenings can continue. 
YAY!!! :) 
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ok, so right, i actually wrote stuff already about got vibe yesterday when i got home, but sumfin fud up...so i must start anew. I actually think my posts showed on stl-raves, but oh well, here is me sayin how things are again....

WOWIE ZOWIE! GOT VIBE was sooooooooooo awesome!!! Everything was great, hooray for KG, and hooray for the kidz, handclappin, whistles blowin! 
The Djs were outstanding. Jon (GOD)ti, goddamn brutha, he don't never be givin a sistah a brizzeak!  I was nonstop dancing, 'cept when i thought i was gonna die from heavy beats stompin all over me.  Mista gotti, you make me wanna leave the one I'm with, start a new relationship...pssshhh, not likely, damn you Djs are such whores. teehee. um, anyhow, Tsar ripped it all apart, and I had to throw Derick into the room, cuz he would have missed out on some serious shit. I went outside during part of miss holly's set, and i heard this really beautiful song, very affective with an emotional piano piece. Me  being the friggen pank that I am, stayed outside 'cause I thought it was coming from someone's car....omg how stupid am I. So when I came back in and saw all the kids in tears with their sprits elevated to the sky, I nearly committed sepuku. Imagine, a rave warrior missing out on the most emotionally intimate moment of the night. UGH!!! But I let it go, so what if I lost out on mass catharsis?!! ;(  
Anyhow, I was really impresses with Mary Jane, being that she was the last Dj in the big room and was the last trance artist after many before, she really kept the people movin'. Seriously, she hit it hard, and no one, no one, was allowed to quit on her. It was like we were all locked in some sort of bondage with her music. A slavery that no one could resist, however. We wanted to be her bitch. But I dunno why she calls herself Mary Jane, after her set i felt like I had been puffing on crack!!  I was some majorly devastated humanity, it was so crazy. I loved the smaller room the most, but I did manage to not neglect the hypnotic house that kicked my ass at the beginning in the rink area.  It took people a while to move their bodies. I guess they had to lose their inhibitions. See, i never even bring mine with me to a party. I will dance and dance no matter how fuckin dumb I look. that is exactly what I did. But how could anyone not? If you were not movin the whole night than you were either  E-tarded, or just someone who needs some help, cuz honey, you missed out. 
Alright, so the net meet was short but sweet, it was good to put faces to the screen names. Thanx Toby for the very helpful name tags. And of course, it was absolutely wonderful to see the people who are always huggin me at every party; nice to see you all again. 
I noticed an unnatural number of unmoving masses of people just lyin' on the sides of the rink....hmmm. I am going to remain neutral on the whole drug thing, it really is a matter of making the decisions that are right for you, but I will not, will not, become indifferent on the issue of dancing. Uh uh, momma aint havin none of dat. When the song said "you should be dancin'", you should have pulled yourself off the floor, and moved your ass. Really, it doesn't matter if you do the funky chicken or the funky broadway, I just wanna see you groove. 
To the folks who were cuttin' a rug out on the floor, hell yes. So many were pulling out their bag O' tricks and just going nonstop. And those breakers were terrific, that girl from tennessee destroyed gravity's wishes.  
Okay, so i will try and wrap this up, thanx for still readin', by the way.   
As i left the party I spied some  kids  who were playing a happy hardcore anthem from their car, I couldn't resist. We waved from across the street and then danced as if the party had simply relocated itself to the parking lot. How fun  is that. 
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anyhow, thanx for such a great party KG, and thanx to all the good kids for feeding the scene energy so that these happenings can continue. 
YAY!!! :) 
Raving for Jesus,
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Help!!! My backpack was "lost" at Got Vibe!! I am going to assume that it simply got lost and "accidentally" was placed into someone else's possession, cause I know that there is some form of inherent decency in us all, ahem. 
I last placed it next to my friend's stuff by the right wall in the rink are at around 5, i think.
Anyhow, It was black with a yellow and blue "starbrite" patch safety pinned on it, the front pocket said the word "love" on a purple and orange/yellow sunray pattern background, there was lime green terrycloth bordered with purple terry that lined the top of the pocket along the zipper division. It has springs attached to the pocket zipper. It is pretty well aged and beaten up. 
I don't know why anyone would want this, it really has no value to anyone but me. My debit card and phone card was in it but i canceled those as soon as I got home. And i don't think I have pissed off anyone well enough for them to want to seek some sort of cruel tempered revenge... i hope. 
This backpack is a lot to me, I hand painted and decorated it in 10th grade. That is forever ago. It had my keys, my glitter, my sanrio and anime stickers, my candy, my GOT VIBE T-shirt, and most importantly my journal. My journal is super personal, and there are so many things that no one else should have access to. To be able to read someones journal without permission, is to violate another's mind; to dissect a life with an unfair judgement. I write things in there so I have something to remind me of my life experiences as my memory dwindles away.  My journal was one of those blue bound lab books, it had a painting of what seems to be a colorful yet disinterested fictional female character with a cyborg like quality. It also had  a drawing on the other side. Both sides had japanese writing.  Oh speaking of which, that damn bag had my japanese composition that was due today!! ARGHHHH!!! ok, i am calm. But please, if you have any info on it's whereabouts, reply reply reply. Or if you see some schmo carrying around  my conspicuous bag and laughing about a really terrible poem that some rave girl wrote in her journal, reply!!!  it would mean a lot to me!!
I promise a whole lotta sweet lovin to it's returner....well, i dunno bout all dat. 
thank you for reading, doing this much helps already!!!!

with so much love,
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NO!!!   REALLY!!!!    Ken *IS* on fire!!!!


derek.


>
>(2) Are inside jokes.  There's 500+ people on this
>list, and the vast majority of us weren't there that
>night with Rica and RayRay to really "get" this post.
>If you were there, congratulations.
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Ummmm....Did I mention that Ken was on fire????


*shruggs*


derek.


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>Jesus H Christ...we've been through this many a time by now. Why does
>everything in this list have to be "rave" related? Because it's called
>mw-raves? So who gives a fuck? We made a joke and we laughed...other
>people do the same thing at one point or another...the whole DJ Funk
>thing  was probably some inside joke originally too so WHO CARES. Just
>because we're RAVERS doesn't mean we can't engage in other
>conversations...this list is a just a medium of communication amongst
>buncha people who happen to be friends...
>
>Misha
>
>
>
>> At the very least try to make it rave related...
>> There
>> could've been a necrophilic 3-way with DJ Funk's
>> corpse
>> or some insightful glowstick insertions or
>> something...
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Mr Fingers- Can You Feel It (original vocal mix)

I think it got repressed on John Aquaviva's "Skills" LP set....The companion
for the mix CD of the same title...


Oh...And Doris, nice job...You proved ONCE AGAIN that you are more
rave...You beat Pixies post by 1 min!!!!


Kudos.

derek.




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>they play it always
>
>its some guy narrating the 'origins' of house music or somethin???
>
>its so.... different. In HIS house there is HOUSE music (i wish i didnt
kill
>my brain.. i could remember who that was spinnin') but anyhoo, does anybody
>know what im talking about?
>
>loopy la zippy ska woo woo candy muah plur
>joe
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At 06:17 PM 9/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
>NO!!!   REALLY!!!!    Ken *IS* on fire!!!!

and he's covered with snakes!


oh and btw:

YOU'RE RUNNING OVER MY LEGS!  AAAAAAGH!

hi derek, i have your sweater.

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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:13:36 -0400, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:

>Ummmm....Did I mention that Ken was on fire????
>
>
>*shruggs*
>
>


Wait...did you just say that Ken was on fire ????

Oh shit...

 ;)

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May as well add mine......

PlasTicPorTal (bet you couldn't guess that one ;D  )

>gruve303
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>>On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:24:28 -0400, Barney Rubble wrote:
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Ok I think everyone already said most everything for me except.....
EAT A DICK!!!!
im sorry, maybe I should just post shit about drugs and blowpops just
to satisfy your ass,
phat chace bitch,
oh and I think this goes out to Kevin Ryan tooo.

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> Um...ok...even if this is true...who the fuck cares?
>  That's THEIR 
> business...not the Net's.  Show some fucking
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> not cool...they're pathetic...I don't care if it was
> a joke either...it's 
> still pathetic....grow up.
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Gotti,

>>EAT A DICK!!!!

Whip yours out and I will.

>>im sorry, maybe I should just post shit about drugs and blowpops just to 
>>satisfy your ass

Nowhere did I say anything about keeping discussions on Raves...I simply was 
commenting on the fact that I thought that spreading a rumor like that on 
the net was in very poor taste and was disrespectful to the people 
involved...

>>phat chace bitch,

chance has an N in it sweety.

And don't worry...you're dick's too small to satisfy my ass. (Mind you...he 
has a big dick...it's just still too small.)  LOL.

Love,

Bop

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Return to Paradise or something like that...it's supposed to be in 
Chicago (I think)...anyways, anyone have any info they can send 
my way? thx for the help...

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What ruined rave? ONE ANSWER; the lure of fame, sex, and big money.

Once djs started charging 2k for an hour of spinning, promoters driving a
new car they paid cash for, the drug dealer stole your boyfriend/girlfriend,
the promoters collaborating with the local gangbangers...

Esp with the money it cost to host an event, it just isnt even worth it to
throw a small party.. The only way you can really make any real amount of
money is to let every dumbass 15 yr old dopehead come in... The most you can
do is to hope this dumbass kid doesnt 86 themself at your event.

AND dont DARE throw anyone out.. Remember the vibe kiddies!

So, there are many conflicts from a promoter standpoint.

Basically, as i see it, the money is what made ppl who dont give a shit
about the ideals behind a rave start throwing a rave.. The only reason they
were doing it was for the money (drugs, sex, and of course whatever else
comes with it).

In turn, the djs starting seeing these greedy fools and starting asking for
a bigger cut.. Pretty soon, all the cool ppl can no longer afford to throw a
decent event. But, of course, if youre a dope dealer, you have plenty of
money to begin with, and you dont really care if you have to go to court to
fight off some dumbass lawsuit cuz your rave got broke up..

The rest of us have to worry about these things.. We have jobs, homes,
careers, etc, that the authorities are more than willing to try to take
away.
We have seen one persons life tore up by just this sort of situation.

So, the scene ends up having an abundance of thugs leftover, ppl who just
completely dont give a shit about anything... Such is rave today.
And it will stay that way, unfortunately.

Really, the only way to fight it is to have raves thrown not by 1 or 2 ppl
as i so often see, but raves thrown by 10-20 ppl, so that any one person
doesnt have as much to lose if it gets broken up or something..
But, unfortunately, everybody is into this "individuality" bullshit and they
all want to be in the spotlight... "I work alone", "I dont want to deal with
other ppl" blah blah.. Everybodys got some fukn personality hangup that
keeps them from cooperating with one another..
I mean, as for the problems at raves, sure, some drug dealer or gangbanger
thats picking fights at your event might be able to intimidate a couple of
ppl, but when 20 - 30 ppl swarm them, the problems cease.. Its a lot easier
to negotiate with em when you have the upper hand.

With teamwork, raves could be AMAZING! But, I dont see it, cuz everyone is
on such a fukn ego trip and wants to be "G Money" and shit, I dont see it
happened.. Trust is also a big word.. Unfortunately, no one has any..
Kinda fukt up for a scene that expouses Peace Love UNITY and Respect,
dontcha think?
Your average raver is nothing more than a spoiled kid who never grew out of
the terrible 2s..

ITs also just a whole lot of work for us working ppl, ie ppl who work more
than 40 hrs a week... I mean, me and mischa threw a couple of raves, but
they were SO MUCH DAMN WORK that i dont really know if i EVER want to hold
another event again.
With more ppl, it woulda been a LOT easier, but.. Everybody is too cool for
that shit i guess, afraid that they wont be in the spotlight.

So, there u have the problem along with the solution.. So, who wants to
commit some money and collaborate to throw a huge event here in indy?

Ill be lucky if I get 5 ppl, and out of those 5, more than likely ill be
lucky if i end up with only 1 of them not backing out..
Prove me wrong. I wish you all would.

Rob

Im serious.. Email me if your interested.





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>(2) Are inside jokes.  There's 500+ people on this
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Someone posted on the midwest-trance list about a club
thing going down this weekend in KC with Punk Floyd...

Can anyone forward me the info?

One-million-thank-yous ;)


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Anybody where was there will know exactly what I'm talking about.  Roni 
Size/Breakbeat Era and crew were absolutly amazing at the Metro! Die was 
tight, and Breakbeat Era was dope too. Their drummer was easily the best 
drummer i've ever seen. He played the Amen break like he was drinking a glass 
of water. But you had to stay until the end to experience Size. I swear he 
played some of the tightest D&B ever produced.  Mad dubplates. Mad flavor. 
And then, they were just standin' around talking to everyone! True musicians. 
True people.
Support the Full Cycle crew to the fullest!

Drew Nice
(Syndicate Detroit)
p.s. - for dj booking, send e-mail to this address or call 773.687.1013

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this is NOT a club thing....it's a party.

Wanna cum?

Cum to KC and I'll make sure you get there

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okay...when i get back my computer, i will be gimmejungl...or teknohoe...

depending on mood...=P

lates
la la la la lauryn....


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Return To Paradise
Chicago
Oct. 23rd
www.shadefree.com, full flier online

it's gonna rawk!!!

PJ




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Return to Paradise or something like that...it's supposed to be in 
Chicago (I think)...anyways, anyone have any info they can send 
my way? thx for the help...

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Shall be hosted by yours truly, dlux and your good buddies at the nsmm.
Details to come.  Picture a romantic WTW.

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To tell someone they are raves is .....

Avey


As in "ahh-vay".....


Like Aveda...or some shit...

Just thought Id keep ya all up to date on the new shit!!!


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Ok...NOBODY said I know how to spell....


So, in case you couldnt figure out on your own....





>To tell someone they are raves is .....
>                                           ^^^^^^


raves= Ravey


Go on with your evening now!!!


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My instant message name is DJSKIP67 

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ok, so whats the deal with this mw-raves spelling bee?
im takin it ALL!!!
SPELLING BEE REPRAZENT.
winner does all the laundry.
werd.
valerie
fukkin hosers.

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is my IDOL.
thats all i have to say....i work harder and harder every day to be like 
her.
tank you,
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> tank you,
> val

tee aych ay enn kay.
you lose the spelling bee.
you can still do my laundry though.
and i'm still better-hung than you.
thank you,
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coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...

the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.

location and date TBA.

email me if you're interested in entering.

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So kiddies, who's gonna throw the next MW-Raves net Party?


I'm ready to jump in my little truck and go bounce all night....  all
night.... all night looong.

Screw the big ol' parties, net-ravers are the cooooolest!

Oooo.. maybe we can all just RealAudio together and have an e-rave... you
don't even have to leave your house... plus you can get all the free
friggin water you want and don't have to complain about it... but then we
wouldn't have anything to complain about.  Let's just do it the old
fashioned  way.

=)
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                 wuttafuckisup Gotti???
          okay i had to post for this shit,becuz okay get this right...im 
talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online just now,and he says hey 
,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the list about u fuckin a dj and 
havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some rich ghetto candy 
raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any candy,,,for two u KNOW 
that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto ass shit,u've even dropped me 
off at my house before which if u remember isnt much aight...i know u were 
tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really dont apreciate it....i know 
wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid =)~,well guess wut ,thursday at 
S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u didnt get the pleasure of 
spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason to post sumthin to get me 
all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now im laughin about it ,cuz i 
know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im really gun woop ya ass!! 
=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my girls to help!!)  by the way 
i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin sex in the dark corner 
all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that tape u promiced me,i better 
be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as fuck 
wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love rachel aka rayray

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Ya, I mean Misha and ricA were so upset about this whole thing, they
called me and told me how much of a dirty bastard I was.
I'm so sorry for hurting there feelings, 
I really am!

> Nowhere did I say anything about keeping discussions
> on Raves...I simply was 
> commenting on the fact that I thought that spreading
> a rumor like that on 
> the net was in very poor taste and was disrespectful
> to the people 
> involved...
> 
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>Anybody where was there will know exactly what I'm talking about.  Roni
>Size/Breakbeat Era and crew were absolutly amazing at the Metro! Die was
>tight, and Breakbeat Era was dope too.

Hrm.  Are you talking about the gig they played March 98?  I was there....I
didn't think they were as tight as they could have been, the singer was a
little off-pitch, and there were some other problems.  It was cool to hear
them live, and from what I understand this was not a show that was up to
their normal standards.  I guess they had been travelling awhile, and yeah,
that can wear on ya.  If I heard they were going to be in the mw again I
would definitely go, but I certainly didn't think this show was the bomb
biggety.

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For party info - go to www.thirtythreeandathird.dhs.org.  The flyers are
on the web.  And if you are really bitching about prices - email me and I
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please, everyone, go to http://www.bigfoot.com, look me up,
and pay $40 for "public information" that's available about me.

is this really legal?!  if so, shouldn't i get a cut?

i wouldn't be so upset if ALL information was this available.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:08:47 1999
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*can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.

I buy my boobies at Victoria's secret , so That isn't the case.I am damn
cute though;)
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*can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.

I buy my boobies at Victoria's secret , so That isn't the case.I am damn
cute though;)
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hey,
ya, im guilty as charged,
i'm sorry, I know it's not nice to make jokes at
someone elses expence, but damn it, ya just had ta be
there!
your more than welcome to come whoop my ass,
I actually enjoy it;-)

--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>                  wuttafuckisup Gotti???
>           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz
> okay get this right...im 
> talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online just
> now,and he says hey 
> ,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the list
> about u fuckin a dj and 
> havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some
> rich ghetto candy 
> raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any
> candy,,,for two u KNOW 
> that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto ass
> shit,u've even dropped me 
> off at my house before which if u remember isnt much
> aight...i know u were 
> tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really
> dont apreciate it....i know 
> wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid =)~,well
> guess wut ,thursday at 
> S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u
> didnt get the pleasure of 
> spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason to
> post sumthin to get me 
> all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now
> im laughin about it ,cuz i 
> know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im
> really gun woop ya ass!! 
> =)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my
> girls to help!!)  by the way 
> i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin
> sex in the dark corner 
> all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that
> tape u promiced me,i better 
> be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as
> fuck 
> wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love
> rachel aka rayray
> 
> -
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> 
> 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:17:31 1999
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Chad_Sponholz@firstar.com wrote:

> please, everyone, go to http://www.bigfoot.com, look me up,
> and pay $40 for "public information" that's available about me.
>
> is this really legal?!  if so, shouldn't i get a cut?
>
> i wouldn't be so upset if ALL information was this available.
>
> chad

There is also www.knowx.com and other things (KnowX charges
small fees based on individual pieces of information).

Not only is big brother watching, but any dope with a credit card
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:20:26 1999
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Ok, let me just point one thing out, 
RAYRAY cannot except a personal appology from someone,
cuz she cares too much about what other people think
about her.
For this I say, apology taken back
I meant every word I said
Fuck you RAYRAY
you deserved it for being a cracked out candy raver

--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>  
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 
> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:33:19 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] directed to a certain person or
> 2....
> To: RAYJAY420@aol.com
> 
> hey,
> ya, im guilty as charged,
> i'm sorry, I know it's not nice to make jokes at
> someone elses expence, but damn it, ya just had ta
> be
> there!
> your more than welcome to come whoop my ass,
> I actually enjoy it;-)
> 
> --- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
> >                  wuttafuckisup Gotti???
> >           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz
> > okay get this right...im 
> > talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online
> just
> > now,and he says hey 
> > ,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the
> list
> > about u fuckin a dj and 
> > havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some
> > rich ghetto candy 
> > raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any
> > candy,,,for two u KNOW 
> > that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto
> ass
> > shit,u've even dropped me 
> > off at my house before which if u remember isnt
> much
> > aight...i know u were 
> > tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really
> > dont apreciate it....i know 
> > wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid
> =)~,well
> > guess wut ,thursday at 
> > S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u
> > didnt get the pleasure of 
> > spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason
> to
> > post sumthin to get me 
> > all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now
> > im laughin about it ,cuz i 
> > know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im
> > really gun woop ya ass!! 
> > =)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my
> > girls to help!!)  by the way 
> > i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy
> havin
> > sex in the dark corner 
> > all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that
> > tape u promiced me,i better 
> > be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as
> > fuck 
> > wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love
> > rachel aka rayray
> > 
> > -
> > questions about this mailing list?
> > http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
> > 
> > 
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
> 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:21:53 1999
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i don't have an exact figure right now

500+ is accurate, but not precise.  i'll post an exact number later.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:26:12 1999
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------Original Message------

>i swear that the highlight of my day is NOT coming home and
"Honey, today on the list, so and so said..."



I would like to let every one know that this is a lie.I am perpetually
saying I don't know who that is, Why do I care what they said on the damn
list?
Although I did like the story about the cat projectile vomiting.
>
>
>hey sweetheart, I have one thing to say
get off my dick...lick my balls!

heh heh.

Hey Douglas, I have one thing to say...NO SEX FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!

This is just one example of life as a married couple...

Annie

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
varsha
varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu
psychedelic trance liberation front
http://beam.to/varsha
ICQ #29038461

"You wouldn't believe it dude! I'm like
the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem!
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:31:32 1999
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Hey I am back on the list (albeit in digest form this time) and I was
wondering if any one could give me a quick summary of what I missed in the
past 4 months?

Also, when replying to a message that I post please go ahead and "cc" it
to me as well.  Otherwise, it will be buried in the digest (I assume, I
havent got one yet) and I probably wont read it.  

Hi to all my friends.
Fuck you to all my enemies.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 03:39:18 1999
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  dam boy ,,wut the hell,,i wanted u to apologize over the list so all of the 
god dam mw doesnt think im some STL party slut!!! aight well if u wanna get 
all krazie about it ,whatever....i just didnt think u had enough in u to 
apoligize in front of everyone u could post bullshit about other people in 
front of.....which u even said that u wouldnt,so act however u wanna act 
about it. Ummmm and one last time,I think ur mistakin me for somebody else if 
u keep callin me a dam candy raver!!! rayray wears no dam tacky bracelettes 
or neclaces,thankuverymuch =).(no offence to any candykids out there,do ur 
thang)   anyways so hope u can get over it jon
            love rachel aka rayray

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I want to have Kenya DuBois's baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
if you haven't met him you should..... by the way does anyone really know him 
i'm wondering if he is single???????

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Enjoy.

one love,
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:13:22 -0500
From: James Bucknell <jbucknell@hearst.com>
To: nyc-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject: (nyc)And in the beginning...



In the beginning there was Jack, and Jack had a groove. And from this groove
came the groove of all grooves. And while one day viciously throwing down on his
box Jack declared 'Let there be house music' and house music was born. I am, you
see, I am the creator and this is my house, and in my house there is only house
music.
But I am not so selfish because once you enter my house it then becomes our
house and our house music.
And you see no one owns house music because house music is a universal language
spoken and understood by all. You see house is a feeling that no one can
understand really unless you are deep into the vibe of house. House is an
uncontrollable desire to jack your body. And as I told you before, this is our
house, and our house music, and in every house there is a people, and in this
house the people is jack.
And some of you may wonder, who is Jack and what is it that Jack does?
Jack is the one who gives you the power to jack your body. Jack is the one who
gives you the power to do the snake. Jack is the one who gives you the key to
the weekly world. Jack is the one who learns you to work your body. Jack is the
one who can bring nations and nations of all jackers together under the one
house.
You may be black, you may be white, you may be Jew or g gtile it doesn't make no
difference in our house.





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Syceda Rhythm presents...

SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 25, 1999
INDEPENDENCE, MISSOURI  (15 minutes from downtown K.C.)
INFOLINE:  816-920-3578

An evening of acid techno and trance featuring:

Smitten recording aritists from the U.K.

*PUNK FLOYD*
CHRIS LIBERATOR
DDR
GEEZER
ROLAND T. BASTARD

with n.9 - Lawrence, KS (two hour opening set)

and introducing High Lonesome - San Diego, CA

Party starts at 10:00pm.  Pre-sale tickets will be available day of
event.  We are encouraging KC residents (and surrounding areas) to 
purchase tickets early to help prevent long lines and congestion at the
front doors.

$15.00 w/ canned food donation

Pre-sale information will be available Friday September 24, 1999.

Please direct inquiries and guestlist requests to this address.

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fuck you.  I think I'm the man with info on command (dang, that
rhymed).  Feeling cool for about two seconds, then I realize that
you've already posted the forward _I_ sent you.  Burst my fucking
bubble.  Now I just look like a schmuck... where you at?  Wanna go get
coffee tommorow night with Gabe?


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doris your a dork

-----Original Message-----
From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
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>> they play it always
>
>> its some guy narrating the 'origins' of house music or somethin???
>
>> its so.... different. In HIS house there is HOUSE music (i wish i didnt
>> kill
>> my brain.. i could remember who that was spinnin') but anyhoo, does
>> anybody
>> know what im talking about?
>
>-------------------------
>
>In the beginning there was Jack, and Jack had a groove. And from this
>groove came the groove of all grooves. And while one day viciously
>throwing down on his box Jack declared 'Let there be house music' and
>house music was born. I am, you see, I am the creator and this is my
>house, and in my house there is only house music.
>
>But I am not so selfish because once you enter my house it then
>becomes our house and our house music.
>
>And you see no one owns house music because house music is a universal
>language spoken and understood by all. You see house is a feeling that
>no one can understand really unless you are deep into the vibe of
>house. House is an uncontrollable desire to jack your body. And as I
>told you before, this is our house, and our house music, and in every
>house there is a people, and in this house the people is jack.
>
>And some of you may wonder, who is Jack and what is it that Jack does?
>Jack is the one who gives you the power to jack your body. Jack is the
>one who gives you the power to do the snake. Jack is the one who gives
>you the key to the weekly world. Jack is the one who learns you to
>work your body. Jack is the one who can bring nations and nations of
>all jackers together under the one house.
>
>You may be black, you may be white, you may be Jew or gentile it
>doesn't make no difference in our house.
>
>
>
>
>
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>  All and all, I was disappointed with the whole party and I wish I
>  would have taken my $15 elsewhere.. Anybody else that went feel
>  the same?
>
>      /shandi

fyi, those of you who went to this debacle missed a kewl party i hour away 
(bloomington, in) that featured mike dearborn absolutely whoopin' ass on the 
tables.  adam jay fuggin' rocked out too...

but, y'know, none of them were on mtv, so i guess it doesn't matter, huh?

shiva

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That should have been a private post sent ONLY to jon
gotti, there is no need to create drama on a public
forum when you are only addressing one person.
Threating others over petty gossip is just downright
childish and a waste of bandwith. Please think before
you write posts to the whole list, ask yourself if
your post is rave related, if not write NRR, does the
post apply to more than two or three people, if not,
write to those people personally, PLEASE. I'm not
trying to be rude but too many people have been
addressing personal disputes via the list and it needs
to stop.
Peace
Laine

--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:
>                  wuttafuckisup Gotti???
>           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz
> okay get this right...im 
> talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online just
> now,and he says hey 
> ,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the list
> about u fuckin a dj and 
> havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some
> rich ghetto candy 
> raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any
> candy,,,for two u KNOW 
> that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto ass
> shit,u've even dropped me 
> off at my house before which if u remember isnt much
> aight...i know u were 
> tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really
> dont apreciate it....i know 
> wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid =)~,well
> guess wut ,thursday at 
> S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u
> didnt get the pleasure of 
> spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason to
> post sumthin to get me 
> all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now
> im laughin about it ,cuz i 
> know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im
> really gun woop ya ass!! 
> =)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my
> girls to help!!)  by the way 
> i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin
> sex in the dark corner 
> all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that
> tape u promiced me,i better 
> be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as
> fuck 
> wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love
> rachel aka rayray
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chris ege wrote:
> 
> coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> 
> the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> 
> location and date TBA.
> 
> email me if you're interested in entering.

i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you no
dis yo.

-- 
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 well if anyone cares, i am on aol IM right now...
   blissfatho    
yes, no "m"
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On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:13:48   Ryan Summers wrote:
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>May as well add mine......
>
>PlasTicPorTal (bet you couldn't guess that one ;D  )
>
>>gruve303
>>
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>*can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.
>
>I buy my boobies at Victoria's secret , so That isn't the case.I am damn
>cute though;)
>Annie

i'll vouch for that!  and she has great taste in women...and 
men...ummm...i'm so confused...

;p

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--- Princess Applesauce In Da House <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> > so is anyone on aol or i.m.?
> > just wonderin...im bored at work and lookin for people to talk to
> > **no-one-will-ever-love-me-lora**

my IM addy is:  djshiva420

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Miss No'thang, you should be-e a school teacher. Or a dictator for a 
communist country. You don't want anybody to have fun.  It was bad enough 
when your 14 year old boyfriend threatened to beat me-e up.  Now you are 
trying to run this list too? Lighten up, baby. If you want to see-e how 
she-e threatened me-e, go to www.ianhardrecords.com
She was going to get Johnie Cochran on my ass.  I don't have No'thang to 
take. Help promote the killing of dogs, cats, and PLURheads in North 
America. On a rave related not, there are tons of pictures from Got Vibe on 
my site. The video should be-e up by the end of the week. Remember, Help 
promote the killing of dogs, cats, and PLURheads in North America.
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
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gotti, there is no need to create drama on a public
forum when you are only addressing one person.
Threating others over petty gossip is just downright
childish and a waste of bandwith. Please think before
you write posts to the whole list, ask yourself if
your post is rave related, if not write NRR, does the
post apply to more than two or three people, if not,
write to those people personally, PLEASE. I'm not
trying to be rude but too many people have been
addressing personal disputes via the list and it needsto stop.PeaceLaine
--- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:>                  wuttafuckisup Gotti???
>           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz> okay get this right...im
>talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online just> now,and he says hey
>,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the list> about u fuckin a dj 
>and
>havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some> rich ghetto candy
>raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any> candy,,,for two u KNOW
>that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto ass> shit,u've even dropped 
>me
>off at my house before which if u remember isnt much> aight...i know u were
>tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really> dont apreciate it....i 
>know
>wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid =)~,well> guess wut ,thursday 
>at
>S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u> didnt get the pleasure 
>of
>spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason to> post sumthin to get 
>me
>all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now> im laughin about it 
>,cuz i
>know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im> really gun woop ya 
>ass!!
>=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my> girls to help!!)  by the 
>way
>i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin> sex in the dark 
>corner
>all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that> tape u promiced me,i 
>better
>be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as> fuck
>wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love> rachel aka rayray>

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fox....hm...this could have been one of the peeps involved in the techno cosmic
mass.  the name doesn't sound too familiar but the idea seems like it's right
on.  the first one two years ago followed a similar format...with multiple
speakers doing what seemed like endless spoken word pieces about the power and
religiosity of dance, and the gathering of the new tribe and etc etc and blah
blah blah.  and then they busted out the beats...(matter--whom some of you
probably know--played at that first t.c.m.)....i guess the one they threw this
year moved even MORE towards the spoken word aspects of the techno cosmic mass. 
in any case i think it's a great idea...IN THEORY...in practice it tends to draw
lots of new-age-y old lady types...there was a palpable energy in the
room....but it was just such an old-lady vibe that it made me queasy and i ended
up leaving way before they got to the beats...anytime someone tries to give me a
damn sermon about how dancing=religion....i wanna cram a damn sock in their
throat and turn up the music...

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252
of
575 total subskribers.

if i had a dollar for every time i've said that...

this figure accounts for people who are subskribed to both the digest and
the "normal" version.

this sparked my curiousity.

for those interested in mw-raves' energy, here's a nibble.
andrew had a pretty good idea, imho.

http://www.2numerology.com/numbers.fm$retrieve?recnum=0001642&Layout=destiny&HTML=destinyDesc

and now, back to your web-surfing while eating raw chef boyardee
(pronounced bo-YARD-ee) lasagna out of the can... and feeling pretty good
about that.

i was going to say something about things that were loud.
but i decided not to.

peace,
chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 09:06:26 1999
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http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/contributions/posts/our.community.html

tricked you.

i'll try to get the whole old site/new site situation under control and
organized shortly.

also, some of you have submitted links to me to put on the new site.
i still have your messages, and will add the links shortly.
if they're not on the site within a few weeks, i ask you to please kindly
submit them to me again (in a few weeks, please, not now)

currently outsourcing the region/city page duties...volounteers?
(now, please, not in a few weeks)

a kind non-subskriber is currently taking care of dee-troit.
but we have many other cities to choose from.

qualifications are:

you must know your shit, or be able to find your shit and present it,
visually, on the Web {tm}.

what i'm looking for in the page itself:

i'm not TOO picky.  i'm looking for one page only.  it should look nice.
should feel like what's positive about your city, or what you feel is
positive about your city.

it should have information.

http://www.mw-raves.org/regions should give you an idea of the areas we
need to cover.  also, if you follow the links to any one of the states,
you'll find out exac-it-aly what kind of information we're looking for.

if you have the ambition, work out a city page and show me what you got.
in the event of duplicates, i'll decide (based on the above criteria, and
none (that i can think of offhand) beyond that) which page goes up.

so, lemme know.  and thanks if i got your attention.

-chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 09:14:38 1999
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Too bad. I already got to bring the camera in.  From what I hear, your just 
a girlfriend of a KG member. All the people who really are in Kindred Groove 
love me-e,  so good luck getting me-e banned. By the way, you asked me-e to 
take you off the Ians' bitches page. That I did. Shouldn't you be-e getting 
ready for high school or somethin'? As always, I encourage the eating of 
cats and dogs in South Korea.
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
4600 Chippewa PMB 161
St. louis, Mo.63116
314.994.1284
Ian Hard Records
Virtual Web Technology
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www.ianhardrecords.com
ianhard@ianhardrecords.com>From: Miss Thang <junglejunkey@yahoo.com>
>To: Ian Hard <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Not Miss No'thang!
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>OK, i was being genuine when i said that it would
>benefit you to take me off your page, it was not a
>threat and i'm sorry that you took it that way. I was
>merely saying that if you took me off your page i
>would be happy, and if i am happy that means you have
>one more person part of KG that is willing to give you
>a chance to prove that you are trust worthy, and that
>means that we don't ban you, and we let you take your
>camera in our parties, that is how it would benefit
>you. So once again i politely ask you to take me off
>your page.
>Thankyou
>Laine
>
>--- Ian Hard <virtualweb3@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Miss No'thang, you should be-e a school teacher. Or
> > a dictator for a
> > communist country. You don't want anybody to have
> > fun.  It was bad enough
> > when your 14 year old boyfriend threatened to beat
> > me-e up.  Now you are
> > trying to run this list too? Lighten up, baby. If
> > you want to see-e how
> > she-e threatened me-e, go to www.ianhardrecords.com
> > She was going to get Johnie Cochran on my ass.  I
> > don't have No'thang to
> > take. Help promote the killing of dogs, cats, and
> > PLURheads in North
> > America. On a rave related not, there are tons of
> > pictures from Got Vibe on
> > my site. The video should be-e up by the end of the
> > week. Remember, Help
> > promote the killing of dogs, cats, and PLURheads in
> > North America.
> > I'm Ian Hard
> > Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> > 4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> > St. louis, Mo.63116
> > 314.994.1284
> > Ian Hard Records
> > Virtual Web Technology
> > www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> > sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> > www.ianhardrecords.com
> > ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> >
> >
> > gotti, there is no need to create drama on a public
> > forum when you are only addressing one person.
> > Threating others over petty gossip is just downright
> > childish and a waste of bandwith. Please think
> > before
> > you write posts to the whole list, ask yourself if
> > your post is rave related, if not write NRR, does
> > the
> > post apply to more than two or three people, if not,
> > write to those people personally, PLEASE. I'm not
> > trying to be rude but too many people have been
> > addressing personal disputes via the list and it
> > needsto stop.PeaceLaine
> > --- RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:>
> > wuttafuckisup Gotti???
> > >           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz>
> > okay get this right...im
> > >talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online
> > just> now,and he says hey
> > >,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the
> > list> about u fuckin a dj
> > >and
> > >havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some>
> > rich ghetto candy
> > >raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any>
> > candy,,,for two u KNOW
> > >that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto
> > ass> shit,u've even dropped
> > >me
> > >off at my house before which if u remember isnt
> > much> aight...i know u were
> > >tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really>
> > dont apreciate it....i
> > >know
> > >wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid
> > =)~,well> guess wut ,thursday
> > >at
> > >S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u>
> > didnt get the pleasure
> > >of
> > >spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason
> > to> post sumthin to get
> > >me
> > >all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now>
> > im laughin about it
> > >,cuz i
> > >know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im>
> > really gun woop ya
> > >ass!!
> > >=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my>
> > girls to help!!)  by the
> > >way
> > >i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy
> > havin> sex in the dark
> > >corner
> > >all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that>
> > tape u promiced me,i
> > >better
> > >be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as>
> > fuck
> > >wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love>
> > rachel aka rayray>
> >
> >
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>252
>of
>575 total subskribers.
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buncha lurkers. good thing y'all don't post or i'd have to unsub again...


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Subject: [mw] Miss No'thang has a crush on me-e!
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Here is a post to stl-raves that cracks me-e up. Little Miss No'thang
calls it I HATE IAN HARD. Now that's not very PLUR of her would you say? To 
make this rave related, you can download a video of her at my website.  
www.ianhardrecords.com  I wouldn't bother.  She's not much to look at.
I'm Ian Hard
ok, ya know, i was actually starting to overlook the
things ian has done in the past because he was nice
and took me off his web page, but then, right after
the party is over he comes back twice as bad saying i
threated him!!!!!! I'll go on ahead and clear up what
he misundestood as a threat.. i said in an e-mail that
i was part of KG and so was nathan, so it would
obviously be beneficial for him to take off the nasty
thing he said about us on his webpage (i didn't say
why, i assumed that he would figure it out, silly me)
reason being if we happen to discuss actually trusting
the creep at a meeting i would say "hey, he's not that
bad, i'm willing to give him a chance." But not now, i
think we've been way too nice to him, john, you still
like the idea of taking him out back and taking a few
baseball bats to his ass, cuz the guy NEEDS some sensebeat into him.Laine

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what is bandwidth?
can someone please explain to me how bandwidth is wasted and if it is able to 
shit and piss please explain to me please how how how to waist your presious 
band-width
i n n nneed to know

           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz>
> > okay get this right...im
> > >talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online
> > just> now,and he says hey
> > >,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the
> > list> about u fuckin a dj
> > >and
> > >havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some>
> > rich ghetto candy
> > >raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any>
> > candy,,,for two u KNOW
> > >that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto
> > ass> shit,u've even dropped
> > >me
> > >off at my house before which if u remember isnt
> > much> aight...i know u were
> > >tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really>
> > dont apreciate it....i
> > >know
> > >wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid
> > =)~,well> guess wut ,thursday
> > >at
> > >S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u>
> > didnt get the pleasure
> > >of
> > >spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason
> > to> post sumthin to get
> > >me
> > >all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now>
> > im laughin about it
> > >,cuz i
> > >know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im>
> > really gun woop ya
> > >ass!!
> > >=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my>
> > girls to help!!)  by the
> > >way
> > >i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy
> > havin> sex in the dark
> > >corner
> > >all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that>
> > tape u promiced me,i
> > >better
> > >be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as>
> > fuck
> > >wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love>
> > rachel aka rayray>
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:34:47 -0500
From: jason111 <jt111@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] herr tertadian ist subskriber nummer...

>252
>of
>575 total subskribers.
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:52:40 GMT
From: "Ian Hard" <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
Subject: [mw] Miss No'thang has a crush on me-e!

Here is a post to stl-raves that cracks me-e up. Little Miss No'thang
calls it I HATE IAN HARD. Now that's not very PLUR of her would you say? To 
make this rave related, you can download a video of her at my website.  
www.ianhardrecords.com  I wouldn't bother.  She's not much to look at.
I'm Ian Hard
ok, ya know, i was actually starting to overlook the
things ian has done in the past because he was nice
and took me off his web page, but then, right after
the party is over he comes back twice as bad saying i
threated him!!!!!! I'll go on ahead and clear up what
he misundestood as a threat.. i said in an e-mail that
i was part of KG and so was nathan, so it would
obviously be beneficial for him to take off the nasty
thing he said about us on his webpage (i didn't say
why, i assumed that he would figure it out, silly me)
reason being if we happen to discuss actually trusting
the creep at a meeting i would say "hey, he's not that
bad, i'm willing to give him a chance." But not now, i
think we've been way too nice to him, john, you still
like the idea of taking him out back and taking a few
baseball bats to his ass, cuz the guy NEEDS some sensebeat into him.Laine

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>ass!!
>=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my> girls to help!!)  by the 
>way
>i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin> sex in the dark 
>corner
>all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that> tape u promiced me,i 
>better
>be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as> fuck
>wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love> rachel aka rayray>

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:59:53 -0500
From: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
Subject: [mw] AOL IM THING

I'm online too

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:35:37 -0400
From: "Psyko Slinky bong" <dis_c0@disinfo.net>
Subject: [mw] re: preacher dj

fox....hm...this could have been one of the peeps involved in the techno 
cosmic
mass.  the name doesn't sound too familiar but the idea seems like it's right
on.  the first one two years ago followed a similar format...with multiple
speakers doing what seemed like endless spoken word pieces about the power and
religiosity of dance, and the gathering of the new tribe and etc etc and blah
blah blah.  and then they busted out the beats...(matter--whom some of you
probably know--played at that first t.c.m.)....i guess the one they threw this
year moved even MORE towards the spoken word aspects of the techno cosmic 
mass. 
in any case i think it's a great idea...IN THEORY...in practice it tends to 
draw
lots of new-age-y old lady types...there was a palpable energy in the
room....but it was just such an old-lady vibe that it made me queasy and i 
ended
up leaving way before they got to the beats...anytime someone tries to give 
me a
damn sermon about how dancing=religion....i wanna cram a damn sock in their
throat and turn up the music...

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>*can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.
>
>I buy my boobies at Victoria's secret , so That isn't the case.I am damn
>cute though;)
>Annie

i'll vouch for that!  and she has great taste in women...and 
men...ummm...i'm so confused...

;p

shiva

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:50:37 CDT
From: "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] nrr: aol instant messenger

- --- Princess Applesauce In Da House <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> > so is anyone on aol or i.m.?
> > just wonderin...im bored at work and lookin for people to talk to
> > **no-one-will-ever-love-me-lora**

my IM addy is:  djshiva420

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:19:16 -0500
From: Superstar DJ Sofa King <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] first annual mw-raves spelling bee

chris ege wrote:
> 
> coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> 
> the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> 
> location and date TBA.
> 
> email me if you're interested in entering.

i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you no
dis yo.

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:24:15 -0500
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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:19:16 -0500
From: Superstar DJ Sofa King <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] first annual mw-raves spelling bee

chris ege wrote:
> 
> coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> 
> the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> 
> location and date TBA.
> 
> email me if you're interested in entering.

i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you no
dis yo.

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:24:15 -0500
From: "Tiffany Minx" <blissfathom@mailcity.com


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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:19:16 -0500
From: Superstar DJ Sofa King <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] first annual mw-raves spelling bee

chris ege wrote:
> 
> coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> 
> the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> 
> location and date TBA.
> 
> email me if you're interested in entering.

i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you no
dis yo.

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Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:24:15 -0500
From: "Tiffany Minx" <blissfathom@mailcity.com


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 11:25:41 1999
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Hey guys, my cousin is running a very cool website
http://www.themusicresource.com/ that has all the titles a cdnow or
amazon.com have but they are cheaper and can be shipped in like 2 or 3 days.

Check it out and spread the word.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 12:26:32 1999
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just so everyone knows tranceformers is only $20.00 (presale), i have no 
idea of how much twilight is, but i'd guess that, that one is overpriced....

smiles
~sam~

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To: tara phillips <taraphillips@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [mw] d-town parties
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:46:19 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, tara phillips wrote:

 > Does anyone know anything phat happening this weekend in Detroit? I heard
 > about Transformers but I don't know much about it. If anyone's got any 
info,
 > lemme know. Help me out yo. *much thanks*
 > <Tara P

here you go......yo.  i hope these parties are phat enough for your
tastes.

there are 2 parties on saturday, tranceformers and twilight.
tranceformers has thomas michael, mars and mystr-e, drc, jason blakemore,
and a few locals.  info: 810.220.9883.
twilight has little louie vega (doing a 6hr set), ninjaboy, and dave and
courtney.  info: 248.988.0365
dunno bout the prices, but i think saying that they'll be overpriced will
be a safe assumption.

there are also 2 smaller parties on friday.  strobe (legal alien,
whistleboi, melody, n-durance, darkwater, trancender - 734.326.5105, $10)
and made in detroit (punisher, daryl steele, magda and minx, jeff woodward
and whistleboi [w00p, double-booking, rockstar style baybee], angelboi -
810.856.2070)

wow am i in the loop or WHAT?!
i am so cool.
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In a message dated 9/20/99 5:19:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
DrewNice1@aol.com writes:

<< Anybody where was there will know exactly what I'm talking about.  Roni 
 Size/Breakbeat Era and crew were absolutly amazing at the Metro! Die was 
 tight, and Breakbeat Era was dope too. Their drummer was easily the best 
 drummer i've ever seen. He played the Amen break like he was drinking a 
glass 
 of water. But you had to stay until the end to experience Size. I swear he 
 played some of the tightest D&B ever produced.  Mad dubplates. Mad flavor. 
 And then, they were just standin' around talking to everyone! True 
musicians. 
 True people. >>

unfortunately i only stayed to witness die... (the hot twist or whatever the 
fuck it was called was f'ing groovy) played some familiar dubplates... rocked 
the spot... played some medieval plate that has no i.d. that i heard one of 
the usual suspects drop as well as this thing bailey played that sounds like 
a bambata remix... plus some ray keith and dillinja dubplates that were ok... 
his mixing (aside from what everyone was saying cos the record was skipping - 
*dubplates*.) was impeccable.

i would have liked to witness roni... but honestly from tapes that i have of 
him... i'm surprised everyone was all up in arms about him... as of two years 
ago he couldn't mix that well and there could be no blaming the dubplates at 
that point either.

hmmm

maybe he got better

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ummm....rayray....weren't you leaving?


On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 RAYJAY420@aol.com wrote:

>   dam boy ,,wut the hell,,i wanted u to apologize over the list so all of the 
> god dam mw doesnt think im some STL party slut!!! aight well if u wanna get 
> all krazie about it ,whatever....i just didnt think u had enough in u to 
> apoligize in front of everyone u could post bullshit about other people in 
> front of.....which u even said that u wouldnt,so act however u wanna act 
> about it. Ummmm and one last time,I think ur mistakin me for somebody else if 
> u keep callin me a dam candy raver!!! rayray wears no dam tacky bracelettes 
> or neclaces,thankuverymuch =).(no offence to any candykids out there,do ur 
> thang)   anyways so hope u can get over it jon
>             love rachel aka rayray
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ooooh you just hope that his girlie (at least she was last time i checked)
is too swamped w/ work to read her mail, cause she just re-s*bscribed.

oooooo drama!!  bitchfight!!!  w00p!


On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 Blisscartel@aol.com wrote:

> I want to have Kenya DuBois's baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> if you haven't met him you should..... by the way does anyone really know him 
> i'm wondering if he is single???????
> 
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Mike @ Full Spectrum wrote:

> doris your a dork
> 

yeah but i won the mw-raves spelling bee!

why ooh you apostrophe arr eee.

ka-BLAM, bitch!!


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hit me back with an e-mail at djfergus@hotmail.com please


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 14:11:15 1999
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I know this is a bit out of the midwest, but it's close for out
North/South Dakota and Minnesota friends!

	Saturday October 9th, GB Productions Presents....

		Destined For Utopia

Featuring Main Room:

>From New York, New York --- Frankie Bones (Sonic Groove Records)
>From London, England	--- Chris Liberator (Stay up Forever Records)
>From Leeds, England     --- Mark EG (Cluster, Bonsai, M8 Magazine)

...and locals...

	Bambz		 --- Feel Free Records, EMCC
	Multidimensional --- Alchemy Records, EMCC (LIVA PA) 
	justrich	 --- CHC, WWC
	Zan		 --- Symptom Technologies

Second Room featuring:

>From Vancouver, BC       --- Morph.Com.223

...and locals...
	
	Pulse		 --- Acid techno Birthday lovin
	TypeOne		 --- swingin jungle action
	Lomax		 --- makin you dance
	Grubb		 --- Hard freakin housish beats
	Piranha		 --- Darker than Dark Jungle 

Tickets on sale NOW at:
	Frenzee: Portage Place Skywalk -- 204-989-2267
	The Cause: 202-99 Osborne      -- 204-452-5047
	The Wax Museum

Ticket Prices: (IN CHEAP CANADIAN DOLLARS! $1.00 US = $1.50 CDN)
	1st  40 @ Frenzee	   - $20  SOLD OUT!!!!
	next 60 @ Frenzee 	   - $23  SOLD OUT!!!!
	Advance up to the Event    - $25  STILL AVAILABLE!
	At the Door (if available) - $30

OUT OF TOWN GUESTS: $25 at the door with Valid Photo-ID (A portion of the
available tickets will be reserved for out of town guests at the door)

Crazy lights! Crazy Sound! Full legal venue.

Hotel Information: (nearest to the venue). Rooms are as available.

Holiday Inn Winnipeg South
1330 Pembina Highway
1-800-423-1337
Quote "Great Rates" When reserving.
$79 double
$89 triple
$99 quad
About 65 rooms available, first come first served. 

Canadinns Fort Garry
1824 Pembina Highway
1-888-332-2623
NO ROOMS on October 9th
Rooms available for October 10th
$89 double
$99 triple
$109 quad
(Waterslide!)

Canadinns Express Fort Garry
1792 Pembina Highway
1-888-332-2623
$70 double
$80 triple
$90 quad
(available both nights)

If you have any questions, feel free to email us!

The GB Productions Crew.











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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 14:25:24 1999
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Yes, I represent voodoo child, and we will be throwing this party on
Octoer 23.  For more information, contact shade free's web site at
http://www.shadefree.com and stay tuned for our new we site =]
peace 
-toy

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On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Joe Garcia wrote:

> Return to Paradise or something like that...it's supposed to be in 
> Chicago (I think)...anyways, anyone have any info they can send 
> my way? thx for the help...
> 
> ---
> Laterz
> ---Joe
> 
> "I find big signature files annoying as hell, don't you?"
> -(c) 1998 Joe Garcia
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 14:45:23 1999
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well i was just curious on who is going to tranceformers, cuz i would like 
to meet up with you....
i'll be there for sure.

Luv ya, talk to you later
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 15:08:52 1999
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Sam et al,

>>well i was just curious on who is going to tranceformers, cuz i would like 
>>to meet up with you....i'll be there for sure.

Well...why don't we all try to meet up at Doris's vending table at some 
point in the party?  I jokingly said last night on IRC that I'm gonna get a 
T-shirt made that says,"Nobody Knows I'm Boppity" on it...maybe I should 
really do it!  :)  hehehehe   Anyone know where a Detroit party boy can go 
and get T-shirts made?  :)

Anyhoo...to answer Sam's question....of my little gang who's going we have 
me, Paul Doyle, Jeff (from mw-trance), Steen (hey gurl!), two friends from 
Flint, and a guy I just met this saturday at In the Realm.

Well...if they ever get the damned tickets out in the stores (the promoter 
told me Saturday night that the tickets went out that afternoon...but 
they're not in stores yet...grrrrrr) I'll let ya know.  :)

Anyone who's gonna be there want a beaded pacifier necklace?  :)  I'll be 
passing em out.  :)

Later all...

Jim

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> 
> Well...why don't we all try to meet up at Doris's vending table at some 
> point in the party?  

woohoo!  sounds good.  that obviously answers the question of whether or
not i will be there as well.  so yeah, make it midnite or summin, and come
find me behind my booth.  maybe i'll give you candy.  =P

> I jokingly said last night on IRC that I'm gonna get a 
> T-shirt made that says,"Nobody Knows I'm Boppity" on it...maybe I should 
> really do it!  :)  hehehehe   Anyone know where a Detroit party boy can go 
> and get T-shirts made?  :)

hit up darian for the shirt, her fonts are cool =D  she made me a shirt
that reads "I'M WITH THE DJ!"  of course i don't have the balls to wear it
out cause ppl wouldn't get the joke, but it's a fun thing to have.

> 
> Anyhoo...to answer Sam's question....of my little gang who's going we have 
> me, Paul Doyle, Jeff (from mw-trance), Steen (hey gurl!), two friends from 
> Flint, and a guy I just met this saturday at In the Realm.

w00, steen!  i had no idea!  also, don't forget greg/griggles, who will be
there as well (so if you see a guy behind the booth, that's not me in bad 
lighting, that's him).  maybe some crackhead asian kid named pete will be
there as well, but i don't assume anybody remembers him cause he was only
on mw for a little while and never posted much.  he'll bring saki and
spicy asian stir fry.

> 
> Anyone who's gonna be there want a beaded pacifier necklace?  :)  I'll be 
> passing em out.  :)

sure, i'll have one =)  want anything in return?  like, say, a foot up
your ass?  =)

plur,
**doris**


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Hey chrise, at least we know who's *not* going to win the spelling bee!


tres
... jus' doin' his thangy-thang!!!

buahahahaha!!!!



>                  wuttafuckisup Gotti???
>           okay i had to post for this shit,becuz okay get this right...im
>talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online just now,and he says hey
>,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the list about u fuckin a dj and
>havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some rich ghetto candy
>raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any candy,,,for two u KNOW
>that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto ass shit,u've even dropped 
>me
>off at my house before which if u remember isnt much aight...i know u were
>tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really dont apreciate it....i 
>know
>wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid =)~,well guess wut ,thursday at
>S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u didnt get the pleasure of
>spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason to post sumthin to get me
>all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now im laughin about it ,cuz 
>i
>know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im really gun woop ya ass!!
>=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my girls to help!!)  by the 
>way
>i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin sex in the dark corner
>all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that tape u promiced me,i 
>better
>be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as fuck
>wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love rachel aka rayray

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 15:37:04 1999
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Doris et al...

>>so yeah, make it midnite or summin, and come find me behind my booth.  
>>maybe i'll give you candy.  =P

Doh!  Nah...just gimme a hug.  :)

>>hit up darian for the shirt, her fonts are cool =D

Ok...paging darian......paging darian....

>>w00, steen!  i had no idea!  also, don't forget greg/griggles, who will be 
>>there as well

I know!  I realized I forgot to mention his name after I sent the last 
email.  Sorry Griggles!!!  It wasn't on purpose!  :)

>>sure, i'll have one =)  want anything in return?  like, say, a foot up
your ass?  =)

Oh baby talk DIRTY to me!  Bwahahahahahaha!

Doris, you're the aviest!

Luv,

Jim

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Paul Doyle wrote:

> Someone had mentioned somthin' about posting a transcript of the rave
> summit
> that was held at ID...I would like to hear what went down.  Post up or
> send
> my way.

you an me are nowhere near cool enough to be allowed dat kina infomation
yo, so don even try it!! ....you jus keep eatin a shitloada aacid an
buggin out by cops at all da parties yo goto an everythang will be fine.

i feel like i jus stepped out of a salon,
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Found an original pressing of Black sabbath w/war pigs and ironman and
all kinda of other cool shit last night in my pops record collection.  I
made a super phat jungle tune w/ironman, my 01w/s, and the sequencer on
my comp.  Its my first jungle tune yet.  I will post it to my page in a
few days when it is done, slowed down power cords actually make a decent
sorta bassline.
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.chad sponholz. wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Sep 1999, Little Spanish Eddie wrote:
>
> +parties, Rocky Horror Picture Show "cast" parties...... we've had
> good
> +luck wif dese yo bitch.
>
> jaimmie is trixie (and dr. scott, on occasion)... go see her every
> saturday :)
>
> midnight at the oriental.

awww hell no. das smooveB's gig yo. i only saw dat movie juance years an
years ago while drunk off me face. all i remember is dat everyjuan was
throwin rice and yellin shit da hole time. fucking jerks.

love,
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bah. Massive Rekkids could whup ass all over yer wussy Cincinnati sto.
do they have tv's wif gay-black porn and gummo on em at this Cincinnati
joint?!
i didn't think so.

love,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 16:08:32 1999
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You know, I am not tryin to point any elbos or anything, but there weren't near
as many people who thought they were the list admin before the stl raves list
when down.  We are more than ravers people, if all we did was rave, that would
be lame, and the scene would definately go nowhere.  Don't get mad when people
talk about other things, if you don't want to read it delete it.  It is the key
right below insert directly to the right of your enter key.  Personally, I want
to hear about everyones nrr sides, we all know about who spins what and where
everyone is from, why not get a little more intimate and try to actually get to
know each other on the list.  Scary thought, eh?If we can't do that then maybe
we do need another list: mw-iwannaknowmoreaboutsomeonethanhowravetheyare  anyone
interested?  Once again sorry I am bitching, but I really need a ciggarette and
I am bitching at everyone today.
pEaz,
Stumpalumpagus

Pixie wrote:

> anybody for starting a list called  mw-non-raves-related? so we can all go
> join it, and the people who bitch can stay here and talk about raves and
> rave dj's and rave accessories and rave drugs and raves and ravers and rave
> clothing and raves in their area and rave all day long?
>
> ooh wait, that would suck, because then we couldn't talk about anything
> raves related...hrmm, how about just having a discussion board where people
> who live in or are interested in the mw and who happen to go to or at one
> point went to raves and/or who listen to rave-type music can be a part of
> any number of discussions on any number of subjects simply because we have a
> common factor semi-uniting most of us? is that possible? Some of the people
> on here I don't think I could ever be friends with, cause I can't keep up a
> rave-related conversation 24-7...and god forbid that any one of us might
> want to have a discussion with people we don't see every day or in person
> about something non-rave-related...that's just a horrible thought.
>
> Fuck the internet for making us think we could connect with other people all
> over the world with common interests and talk about something we don't have
> in common.
>
> Rave On!!!
> pixie
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thank you soo much for the lovely song! *sniffle*
i enjoyed it very much in the mix.
but you didn't end it properly, so i'm sorry to say that i cannot marry
you now.
sometimes that's the way the shit-tower crumbles yo.

better luck next time, shitass.
love,
Superstar DJ Sofa King

AlienSoulthief@aol.com wrote:

> DJ sofa kings a guy on mw-raves
> and he seems to be halfway funny guy
> He makes up really crappy songs for the mix
>
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
>
> I don't really know to much about the guy
> except he writes about 2 songs a day
>
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
>
> DJ sofa king must get a lot of ass
> because he sold out and is now all hollywood
>
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
>
> Lets all give DJ sofa king a big round of applause
> and tell him to get his ass off the sofa
>
> potato chips
> beer cans
> lost of cheap porn
>
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
> DJ sofa king
>
> fuck yeah
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Psyko Slinky bong wrote:

> ...i wanna cram a damn sock in their
> throat and turn up the music...

hmmmmm.

a sock huh?

did i ever tell ya bout socks?

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>>YEAH!!!! I don't care if it was a joke either.....IT WAS STILL FUNNY AS
>>HELL!!!!!!

You really thought that post was funny as hell?  I thought
it was approximately as funny as the fact that I fucked
your mother last night.

Aww sheeyat!

Philly wrote: Now i don't really give a fuck either but i damn near pissed my
pants at this last line. I don't care if this is rave related but him fucking
your mother is just too much. Stop it ,.....im gonna pee my pants.


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As some of you know and many of you do not I was scheduled to play at a 
party called 'The Hills are Alive' in the Black Hills region near Rapid 
City.  The events that insued are confusing at best but here goes.

Thursday September 16th

I called the promoters to check on everything and make sure it was all good 
to go.  They said that everything was going as planned even though an 
article had been ran in the Rapid City Journal about Raves and Drugs, mainly 
K.  I thought this was kind of funny since I can't imagine 300-400 kids in a 
K-Hole at a party, talk about non motivation to dance.  Apparently a local 
christian radio station had made a big fuss over this event taking place on 
the air but had seem to come of it, maybe people finally stopped listening 
to the rantings of people that believe in a notion of god, then again......

Friday September 17th

Made plans to leave Minneapolis after work since I was driving out there 
with some friends, we were going to leave around 7 at night and get there 10 
hours later, but at 4:30pm I was told everything was on hold.  Apparently 
enough good wholesome christian activists called and complained that the 
police would be doing the city an injustice by letting this 'drug orgy' go 
on and the Police convinced the owner of the venue (a campground) to renig 
on the contract.  They did this by telling him that they would be setting up 
roadblocks along the way there and that they would search everyone there 
with drug dogs, and basically make his life a living hell.  Later that night 
the local TV station ran their top story "Rave On! Off?"  First off I want 
to commend the station for it's unbiased newscasting, I was very surprised 
to see this from a small town TV station.  One of the people interviewed was 
the Officer in charge of taking down this horrible 'drug orgy'  He stated 
that he has known about these parties going on for 8 years (yeah in fuckin 
rapid city, I lived in Dallas most of my life and didn't even know that 
raves existed until 5 1/2 years ago) and that he had been working undercover 
for serveral years on this production company (the company hasnt even been 
around several years and his great undercover work was asking kids what the 
promoters GAVE them for FREE with their 4 DOLLAR ticket price.  At this 
point I knew that I was dealing with utter stupidity, who the hell would 
pass out drugs to everyone and charge 4 dollars) He KNEW FOR A FACT that 
this party was actually a cover for drug trafficing from Denver and 
mentioned that everyone there was on drugs and that several young girls had 
been kidnapped in the process (Slander anyone?)

At this point I realized what I was dealing with, ignorant gullable people 
looking for a cause to rally around, they didnt care about founding out waht 
was really going on, only to feed there self rightgeous need to do someone 
'moral' and good in 'the eyes of god'

I talked to the promoters all night about if the party was going to go on, 
and at 11:30 that night they told me they had a new venue and come out in 
the morning. went to bed

Saturday September 18th

After a TEN HOUR DRIVE and a stop at Wall Drug (which BTW the is the dumbest 
tourist trap in the world and should be destroyed) We got to Rpaid City and 
went to Brian E's place, they had gotten a roller rink to have the party at 
and the Pre Party in the park had just started, which Brian left for, the 
people I was with went to eat and Heather, another Zoop gal took me to the 
pre-party to check things out.  It was really cool, alot of different types 
of people having a great time dancing to a local DJ underneath a covered 
thing-a-ma-jib.  I was introduced to all the Zoop kids.  They thanked me for 
coming out and told them that it would be my pleasure to play in such a 
budding scene (i didnt use those exact words but it sounds really nice 
doesnt it)  At this point a reporter from the paper showed up and the Zoop 
kids went to talk to her and ask if I wanted to as well, of course I did.  
She asked about my views on drugs in the rave scene and I basically told her 
that every music event has a very small percentage of drugs use that 
coresponds directly to the percentage of use overall in America, and hey 
show me a Willie Nelson concert with drugs use (that quote made the front 
page) That the officers should be trying to help the promoters throw a safe 
party not harass them and right one que guess who shows up, that's right 
Rapid City's Finest.  They said there was a noise complaint (kinds hard 
since there wasnt a house within 1000 yards) and shut it down, everyone left 
peacefully and they told everyone that the party started at 11 in the 
roller-rink (big mistake with the cops there)

well in the 15 minutes it took to get back to Brian's apartment the cops had 
descended on the new venue and told the owners to shut it down or they would 
be in trouble for harboring drug dealers(at this I am thinking slander suit 
against the city cause this is getting WAY outta hand)  We sat and talked 
about alternative including a generator and having it renegade or 
"peacefully protesting" with music outside of city hall.  They tried to 
contact the media for support but couldn't get ahold of anybody, and it had 
seemed that the Christian Coalition and the Misguided if not all out 
ignorant Polica Force had won but wait there's more.....


Fuck the PO-lice we were gonna have a house party, private property 
nieghbors wanted to go to the party so no noise complaint and hell it could 
fit a few hundred people, yeah these guys were gonna lose there shorts 
financially and they couldnt pay the out of towners but we all WANTED to 
make sure these kids had a party---so to the basement we went.  About 
150-200 people showed up, I was in the basement playing for an hour and a 
half so Im not sure what the count was but I can tell you I havent felt a 
thicker vibe in a long time--these kids were so happy just to get the chance 
to hear people play, they didnt care about anything but having a good time, 
hell some random person gave me a brand new pair of socks when i bitched 
about getting mine wet.

Lo and behold the cops showed and Jay of Zoop had finally had enough and 
told them exactly what they were going to do--they were not invited to this 
party, this was private property and if they did not leave he was going to 
call the cops on the cops and have them ticketed, then they told him that a 
nieghbor had called in a noise complaint--he flat out told them 'no they 
didn't, nobody called in a noise complaint (knowing the nieghbors were 
partying inside) and now that you've ran out of excuses leave my property, 
and THEY DID.  I was so proud of this kid for not letting the 5-0 ruin 
anymore of the the good time that they managed to salvage.

I'm not sure what happened in the aftermath, I know they are talking to the 
cops to try and make sure this kind of blatant injustice does not take place 
again and that the South Dakota scene isn't crushed.  I learned alot this 
weekend.  I learned that all of of that get to go to parties every weekend 
without fear of it being shutdown need to shut the fuck up, we are very much 
spoiled brats, we bitch about long lines, water, candy or not candy, its too 
hot, its too cold, i dont like glow sticks --- SHUT THE FUCK UP --- You need 
to appreciate what you have and realize that alot of people who just want to 
dance and have a good time, that includes everything from candy ravers to 
cowboys (yes cowboys),don't even get that and we think we have a right to an 
argon laser and 36 bass bins at every party

ppphhhhttttt whatever, try partying in South Dakota


Im done now

Adam Sjogren
a.k.a. FreakBoy
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AlienSoulthief@aol.com wrote:

> what is bandwidth?
> can someone please explain to me how bandwidth is wasted and if it is
> able to
> shit and piss please explain to me please how how how to waist your
> presious
> band-width
> i n n nneed to know

aighty; you don't fucking need to know sexactly_WHAT_bandwidth is, you
jus need to know dat if you waste it by quoting a hole shitload of shit
(see example below), all the beautiful people who _DO_ know what
bandwidth is will come to yer house one night when you least suspected
it an wack yer pee-pee.

...and believe me, cause i forkin know from sexperiance, you DON'T want
that!!!

hope that helps! :)
-aRNO


>
>
>            okay i had to post for this shit,becuz>
> > > okay get this right...im
> > > >talkin to a friend thats on the mw list online
> > > just> now,and he says hey
> > > >,gotti and somebody else posted sumthin on the
> > > list> about u fuckin a dj
> > > >and
> > > >havin a sexually transmitted disease,and bein some>
> > > rich ghetto candy
> > > >raver.........okay gotti for one,,,i dont wear any>
> > > candy,,,for two u KNOW
> > > >that i live in St.Charles,,which is some ghetto
> > > ass> shit,u've even dropped
> > > >me
> > > >off at my house before which if u remember isnt
> > > much> aight...i know u were
> > > >tryin to be funny or sarcastic hahah,but i really>
> > > dont apreciate it....i
> > > >know
> > > >wut it is,,u want a good ass woopin huh kid
> > > =)~,well> guess wut ,thursday
> > > >at
> > > >S.Grand its on babeee,it's on!!!! haha im sorry u>
> > > didnt get the pleasure
> > > >of
> > > >spankin my ass at Got Vibe =( but thats no reason
> > > to> post sumthin to get
> > > >me
> > > >all rowdy,,,even tho at first i was pissed but now>
> > > im laughin about it
> > > >,cuz i
> > > >know ur jokin,,, well,u better be jokin or else im>
> > > really gun woop ya
> > > >ass!!
> > > >=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my>
> > > girls to help!!)  by the
> > > >way
> > > >i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy
> > > havin> sex in the dark
> > > >corner
> > > >all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that>
> > > tape u promiced me,i
> > > >better
> > > >be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as>
> > > fuck
> > > >wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love>
> > > rachel aka rayray>
> > >
> > >
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:34:47 -0500
> From: jason111 <jt111@execpc.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] herr tertadian ist subskriber nummer...
>
> >252
> >of
> >575 total subskribers.
> - --
> buncha lurkers. good thing y'all don't post or i'd have to unsub
> again...
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:52:40 GMT
> From: "Ian Hard" <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [mw] Miss No'thang has a crush on me-e!
>
> Here is a post to stl-raves that cracks me-e up. Little Miss No'thang
> calls it I HATE IAN HARD. Now that's not very PLUR of her would you
> say? To
> make this rave related, you can download a video of her at my website.
>
> www.ianhardrecords.com  I wouldn't bother.  She's not much to look at.
>
> I'm Ian Hard
> ok, ya know, i was actually starting to overlook the
> things ian has done in the past because he was nice
> and took me off his web page, but then, right after
> the party is over he comes back twice as bad saying i
> threated him!!!!!! I'll go on ahead and clear up what
> he misundestood as a threat.. i said in an e-mail that
> i was part of KG and so was nathan, so it would
> obviously be beneficial for him to take off the nasty
> thing he said about us on his webpage (i didn't say
> why, i assumed that he would figure it out, silly me)
> reason being if we happen to discuss actually trusting
> the creep at a meeting i would say "hey, he's not that
> bad, i'm willing to give him a chance." But not now, i
> think we've been way too nice to him, john, you still
> like the idea of taking him out back and taking a few
> baseball bats to his ass, cuz the guy NEEDS some sensebeat into
> him.Laine
>
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> >ass!!
> >=)..(ha yea right ,maybe if i get like 20 of my> girls to help!!)  by
> the
> >way
> >i did miss ur set.....u know me i was too busy havin> sex in the dark
>
> >corner
> >all night,oh yea,oooh yea...and i better get that> tape u promiced
> me,i
> >better
> >be the 1st!!!!   dont forget Thursday ,i sure as> fuck
> >wont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!        laters        love> rachel aka
> rayray>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:59:53 -0500
> From: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
> Subject: [mw] AOL IM THING
>
> I'm online too
>
> gruve303
>
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:35:37 -0400
> From: "Psyko Slinky bong" <dis_c0@disinfo.net>
> Subject: [mw] re: preacher dj
>
> fox....hm...this could have been one of the peeps involved in the
> techno
> cosmic
> mass.  the name doesn't sound too familiar but the idea seems like
> it's right
> on.  the first one two years ago followed a similar format...with
> multiple
> speakers doing what seemed like endless spoken word pieces about the
> power and
> religiosity of dance, and the gathering of the new tribe and etc etc
> and blah
> blah blah.  and then they busted out the beats...(matter--whom some of
> you
> probably know--played at that first t.c.m.)....i guess the one they
> threw this
> year moved even MORE towards the spoken word aspects of the techno
> cosmic
> mass.
> in any case i think it's a great idea...IN THEORY...in practice it
> tends to
> draw
> lots of new-age-y old lady types...there was a palpable energy in the
> room....but it was just such an old-lady vibe that it made me queasy
> and i
> ended
> up leaving way before they got to the beats...anytime someone tries to
> give
> me a
> damn sermon about how dancing=religion....i wanna cram a damn sock in
> their
> throat and turn up the music...
>
> _____________________________________________________________Re: [mw]
> MW
> raves is about to get cool
>
> >*can't spin, and only get by on looks and boobies.
> >
> >I buy my boobies at Victoria's secret , so That isn't the case.I am
> damn
> >cute though;)
> >Annie
>
> i'll vouch for that!  and she has great taste in women...and
> men...ummm...i'm so confused...
>
> ;p
>
> shiva
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:50:37 CDT
> From: "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] nrr: aol instant messenger
>
> - --- Princess Applesauce In Da House <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> > > so is anyone on aol or i.m.?
> > > just wonderin...im bored at work and lookin for people to talk to
> > > **no-one-will-ever-love-me-lora**
>
> my IM addy is:  djshiva420
>
> shiva
>
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:19:16 -0500
> From: Superstar DJ Sofa King <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] first annual mw-raves spelling bee
>
> chris ege wrote:
> >
> > coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> >
> > the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> >
> > location and date TBA.
> >
> > email me if you're interested in entering.
>
> i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you
> no
> dis yo.
>
> - --
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> 01101111 01001000 11001011
>
> I'd love to have fuckin' chairs
> in the room. Big bag of fuckin' drugs, a couple of fuckin'
> chicks running around. Fuckin' rock-n-roll, baby."
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:24:15 -0500
> From: "Tiffany Minx" <blissfathom@mailcity.com
>
> ===
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:19:16 -0500
> From: Superstar DJ Sofa King <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] first annual mw-raves spelling bee
>
> chris ege wrote:
> >
> > coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> >
> > the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> >
> > location and date TBA.
> >
> > email me if you're interested in entering.
>
> i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you
> no
> dis yo.
>
> - --
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> 01101111 01001000 11001011
>
> I'd love to have fuckin' chairs
> in the room. Big bag of fuckin' drugs, a couple of fuckin'
> chicks running around. Fuckin' rock-n-roll, baby."
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:24:15 -0500
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>
> ===
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:19:16 -0500
> From: Superstar DJ Sofa King <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] first annual mw-raves spelling bee
>
> chris ege wrote:
> >
> > coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> >
> > the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> >
> > location and date TBA.
> >
> > email me if you're interested in entering.
>
> i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you
> no
> dis yo.
>
> - --
> http://poofin.com/arno/
> 01101111 01001000 11001011
>
> I'd love to have fuckin' chairs
> in the room. Big bag of fuckin' drugs, a couple of fuckin'
> chicks running around. Fuckin' rock-n-roll, baby."
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:24:15 -0500
> From: "Tiffany Minx" <blissfathom@mailcity.com
>
> thank you
>
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  --stump wrote--
> be lame, and the scene would definately go nowhere.  Don't get mad when people
> talk about other things, 

And why not?  If you can get mad about people getting mad about people
posting off topic things, then THEY certainly have the right to get mad
about peeps posting off topic things... umm... I think that makes sense.
i know in my brain it makes sense, but then again... heh

>It is the key right below insert directly to the right of your enter key.  

Yup, and it does exactly nada when you are using pine or other text based
email program... but the 'd' button works pretty good.
However, being able to delete it, does not mean it didn't take like 10
minutes to download all the ones that you are going to delete.
However again, I use Pine, so it takes no time to DL.  hee

Personally, I want
> to hear about everyones nrr sides, we all know about who spins what and where
> everyone is from, 
I agree witcha... just put the good ol' NRR on there and I'm straight with
almost all of it.  

>why not get a little more intimate and try to actually get to know each
other on the list.  

Hell ya... and if you were a gurl, I'd get all kinds o' intimate on your
ass!  woo hoo!

> I am bitching at everyone today.

Oh maybe you are a gurl.

*ducks the barrage of gurl-mail coming his way, and happily bounces out of
the email room giggling all the way*


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> > coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> > the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> > location and date TBA.
>
> i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you no
> dis yo.

yeah right... maybe if they limited the drinking to Zima and accepted
Wisconics spellings... and even then it's a long shot.

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This concerns the Party in South Dakota this past weekend. Please check it 
out, it is pretty interesting.

http://smoke.sdsmt.edu/~party/events/hills_alive/zooparticle1.jpg
http://smoke.sdsmt.edu/~party/events/hills_alive/zooparticle2.jpg

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That was definetly a crazy weekend, I'm never again going to complain about 
the hour-long car trip to my grandparents house.  =P
I got to meet someone who's face was swollen shut from too many drugs (I'm 
assuming),  see a mountain with a buncha heads in it, visit Wall Drug (shoot 
me) where a little girl started freaking out because of the size of mine and 
my friends pant size (Aren't we so rave?), slept on the worlds most 
comfortable couch, and have an omlette served to me by a retarded waiter.  
If that doesn't consitute as a rad weekend, I'm stumped as to what does!  And 
that doesn't even include the party itself!!!  I was only there for FreakBoy 
and DMX, both were really good.  Rocked my world..  and stuff.  
That's it.  Thanks to Brian and Heather for the place to stay.  :)

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Hey, I was wondering if any of you know how I can get ahold of MC Blaise's 
booking number. thanks!

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Eye wood vary mush lighk two partisipate en thiss competition. Tank u
and God blec u      PHILLIP

chris ege wrote:

> coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
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Hey, I was wondering if any of you know how I can get ahold of MC
Blaise's booking number. thanks!
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> I'll be doing the ravesafe table.  

Did everybody see this? I want EVERYONE to go and check out this table. 
If Jeff is doing what I think he is doing, you are all in for some 
outstanding education and will all learn ALOT.

PROPS to Jeff!!

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Wow, I'd kick ass in the mw-raves spelling bee.  I went to the state
spelling bee when I was in elementary school.  Oh wait, that's nothing to
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Yea, we definitely need another net-party.  Maybe I should talk to my
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 19:13:36 1999
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Hey, to all you going to Tranceformers....I am going and maybe we can meet 
somewhere at the party.  I am taking my roommate (new to the scene) and a 
few other peeps.  I'd like to get to know some of ya.  Keep me posted!

Rave on,
  Adrienne


>
>>>well i was just curious on who is going to tranceformers, cuz i would 
>>>like
>>>to meet up with you....i'll be there for sure.
>
>Well...why don't we all try to meet up at Doris's vending table at some
>point in the party?  I jokingly said last night on IRC that I'm gonna get a
>T-shirt made that says,"Nobody Knows I'm Boppity" on it...maybe I should
>really do it!  :)  hehehehe   Anyone know where a Detroit party boy can go
>and get T-shirts made?  :)
>
>Anyhoo...to answer Sam's question....of my little gang who's going we have
>me, Paul Doyle, Jeff (from mw-trance), Steen (hey gurl!), two friends from
>Flint, and a guy I just met this saturday at In the Realm.
>
>Well...if they ever get the damned tickets out in the stores (the promoter
>told me Saturday night that the tickets went out that afternoon...but
>they're not in stores yet...grrrrrr) I'll let ya know.  :)
>
>Anyone who's gonna be there want a beaded pacifier necklace?  :)  I'll be
>passing em out.  :)
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>Later all...
>
>Jim
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be advised...the spike and mike sick and twisted festival of 
animation is making a stop in detroit in december. it looks to be the 
only midwest appearance this year. here's the info:

    Detroit, MI
    Magic Bag Theatre
    December 14, 1999 thru January 2, 2000
    (248)544-3030

more info can be had at http://www.spikeandmike.com
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Hmm....speaking of which..

i am throwing a lil party in march...and i was planning to list mw-rave list 
kids.. and kind of mix n match them.. (grin)...as far as exclusive mw-raves 
list party... i'm all for another..


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hey here's a completely novel idea.  let's meet at midnight by the
untranslatable booth.  now we just have to tell everybody else, they might
not be in the know.


On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Adrienne Rahhal wrote:

> Hey, to all you going to Tranceformers....I am going and maybe we can meet 
> somewhere at the party.  I am taking my roommate (new to the scene) and a 
> few other peeps.  I'd like to get to know some of ya.  Keep me posted!
> 
> Rave on,
>   Adrienne
> 
> 
> >
> >>>well i was just curious on who is going to tranceformers, cuz i would 
> >>>like
> >>>to meet up with you....i'll be there for sure.
> >
> >Well...why don't we all try to meet up at Doris's vending table at some
> >point in the party?  I jokingly said last night on IRC that I'm gonna get a
> >T-shirt made that says,"Nobody Knows I'm Boppity" on it...maybe I should
> >really do it!  :)  hehehehe   Anyone know where a Detroit party boy can go
> >and get T-shirts made?  :)
> >
> >Anyhoo...to answer Sam's question....of my little gang who's going we have
> >me, Paul Doyle, Jeff (from mw-trance), Steen (hey gurl!), two friends from
> >Flint, and a guy I just met this saturday at In the Realm.
> >
> >Well...if they ever get the damned tickets out in the stores (the promoter
> >told me Saturday night that the tickets went out that afternoon...but
> >they're not in stores yet...grrrrrr) I'll let ya know.  :)
> >
> >Anyone who's gonna be there want a beaded pacifier necklace?  :)  I'll be
> >passing em out.  :)
> >
> >Later all...
> >
> >Jim
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 19:37:05 1999
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1. will this be a spelling related event?

.....if so, COUNT ME IN!
..aww.yeah.bring.on.the.laundry.
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no meet and the left speaker at 6am when i am gettin my cleveland seabreeze
& mustache ride by doris

-----Original Message-----
From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
To: Adrienne Rahhal <curlycue3@hotmail.com>
Cc: boppity@hotmail.com <boppity@hotmail.com>; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>hey here's a completely novel idea.  let's meet at midnight by the
>untranslatable booth.  now we just have to tell everybody else, they might
>not be in the know.
>
>
>On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Adrienne Rahhal wrote:
>
>> Hey, to all you going to Tranceformers....I am going and maybe we can
meet
>> somewhere at the party.  I am taking my roommate (new to the scene) and a
>> few other peeps.  I'd like to get to know some of ya.  Keep me posted!
>>
>> Rave on,
>>   Adrienne
>>
>>
>> >
>> >>>well i was just curious on who is going to tranceformers, cuz i would
>> >>>like
>> >>>to meet up with you....i'll be there for sure.
>> >
>> >Well...why don't we all try to meet up at Doris's vending table at some
>> >point in the party?  I jokingly said last night on IRC that I'm gonna
get a
>> >T-shirt made that says,"Nobody Knows I'm Boppity" on it...maybe I should
>> >really do it!  :)  hehehehe   Anyone know where a Detroit party boy can
go
>> >and get T-shirts made?  :)
>> >
>> >Anyhoo...to answer Sam's question....of my little gang who's going we
have
>> >me, Paul Doyle, Jeff (from mw-trance), Steen (hey gurl!), two friends
from
>> >Flint, and a guy I just met this saturday at In the Realm.
>> >
>> >Well...if they ever get the damned tickets out in the stores (the
promoter
>> >told me Saturday night that the tickets went out that afternoon...but
>> >they're not in stores yet...grrrrrr) I'll let ya know.  :)
>> >
>> >Anyone who's gonna be there want a beaded pacifier necklace?  :)  I'll
be
>> >passing em out.  :)
>> >
>> >Later all...
>> >
>> >Jim
>> >
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Cont mee en, I spel gud.. eye wen 2 colage..

    Luv u smert peepal awt therr..

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 20:22:56 1999
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hey Kevin, hit me back..  sorry for the waiste of bandwidth.



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does anyone have the flyer for DEE DAY 4, or at least
the web page for ATP or Direct Drive?  I wanna know
the line up for this thing.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 21:29:42 1999
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The lineup is up on the mw-raves calendar.  
It looks to be one HELL of an event.
Point your browser here:   
http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/cal
-Robert

> does anyone have the flyer for DEE DAY 4, or at least
>  the web page for ATP or Direct Drive?  I wanna know
>  the line up for this thing.
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dj fishead wrote:

> > > coming soon to a party or other rave-related event near you...
> > > the first annual mw-raves spelling bee and drinking contest.
> > > location and date TBA.
> >
> > i would whip everyone ana cheetah's ass in dis soooooooo hard an you
> no
> > dis yo.
>
> yeah right... maybe if they limited the drinking to Zima and accepted
> Wisconics spellings... and even then it's a long shot.

*sigh* fishead's all green wiffit over me mad turntablismatical skillz
again i see......

it ain't easy being Numba_1_OG Playa 2-7 Adidas Bankroll Posse Masta "A"
sometimes.

zima's got 5.5% alchyhol BTW yo,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 21 21:39:02 1999
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So, I've decided to finally become unlazy and after a year of being
dormant release some music.  So I was wondering: does anybody out there
know of a good tape duplication place and a good CD duplication place?  I
know if I get vinyl I'm going to have it pressed at www.urpressing.com,
since they have very good prices and they were very helpful when I talked
to them about my split 7-inch...

Also, does anybody out there know of good record labels that I should send
demo tapes to?  I make jungle, experimental, hardcore, trip-hop and rock
stuff and so far I'm only sending it to Rephlex... I suppose I could send
it to the obvious ones like Astralwerks and Moonshine too.

And if anybody wants a copy just e-mail me.  I could send you a DIY one
for free or whatever.

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hey bill
lost your number call me

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I'm desperately looking for a ride for MC Marauder from columbus to
cleveland for SUBMERGED 2 on Sept 25th, 1999. He just moved down there for
school and needs a ride to cleveland in order to play. your gas and
admission will be paid for. also, marauder's a friendly person and has
good taste in music. please e-mail me privately with your phone number or
questions and i'll get back to you ASAP! thanks.

matt

p.s.
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I have some of the summiton videotape. I will post some of the video on my 
web site by the end of the week. www.ianhardrecords.com  Don't worry, you 
didn't miss much. Just a bunch of people sitting around thinking they were 
important. PLUR me.
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Virtual Web Technology
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>From: Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
>Reply-To: Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
>To: Paul Doyle <pdoyle@taylormgmt.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] rave summit at ID
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:39:46 -0500
>
>Paul Doyle wrote:
>
> > Someone had mentioned somthin' about posting a transcript of the rave
> > summit
> > that was held at ID...I would like to hear what went down.  Post up or
> > send
> > my way.
>
>you an me are nowhere near cool enough to be allowed dat kina infomation
>yo, so don even try it!! ....you jus keep eatin a shitloada aacid an
>buggin out by cops at all da parties yo goto an everythang will be fine.
>
>i feel like i jus stepped out of a salon,
>--aRNO
>
>http://poofin.com/arno/
>1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010
>
>no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor
>
>
>
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There is a list like that. It is stlahole@e-groups and anything goes. No 
PLUR allowed. Join us, you'll love it. Bring your barf bag.
I'm Ian Hard
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>From: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>
>Reply-To: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>
>To: Pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] MW-Non-Raves
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:19:33 -0400
>
>You know, I am not tryin to point any elbos or anything, but there weren't 
>near
>as many people who thought they were the list admin before the stl raves 
>list
>when down.  We are more than ravers people, if all we did was rave, that 
>would
>be lame, and the scene would definately go nowhere.  Don't get mad when 
>people
>talk about other things, if you don't want to read it delete it.  It is the 
>key
>right below insert directly to the right of your enter key.  Personally, I 
>want
>to hear about everyones nrr sides, we all know about who spins what and 
>where
>everyone is from, why not get a little more intimate and try to actually 
>get to
>know each other on the list.  Scary thought, eh?If we can't do that then 
>maybe
>we do need another list: mw-iwannaknowmoreaboutsomeonethanhowravetheyare  
>anyone
>interested?  Once again sorry I am bitching, but I really need a ciggarette 
>and
>I am bitching at everyone today.
>pEaz,
>Stumpalumpagus
>
>Pixie wrote:
>
> > anybody for starting a list called  mw-non-raves-related? so we can all 
>go
> > join it, and the people who bitch can stay here and talk about raves and
> > rave dj's and rave accessories and rave drugs and raves and ravers and 
>rave
> > clothing and raves in their area and rave all day long?
> >
> > ooh wait, that would suck, because then we couldn't talk about anything
> > raves related...hrmm, how about just having a discussion board where 
>people
> > who live in or are interested in the mw and who happen to go to or at 
>one
> > point went to raves and/or who listen to rave-type music can be a part 
>of
> > any number of discussions on any number of subjects simply because we 
>have a
> > common factor semi-uniting most of us? is that possible? Some of the 
>people
> > on here I don't think I could ever be friends with, cause I can't keep 
>up a
> > rave-related conversation 24-7...and god forbid that any one of us might
> > want to have a discussion with people we don't see every day or in 
>person
> > about something non-rave-related...that's just a horrible thought.
> >
> > Fuck the internet for making us think we could connect with other people 
>all
> > over the world with common interests and talk about something we don't 
>have
> > in common.
> >
> > Rave On!!!
> > pixie
> >
> > -
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> > http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
>
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>Just a bunch of people sitting around thinking they were 
>important. 

That's quite a bold statement considering that just about every single 
person who helped plan and put on that summit is on this list.

But you're fearless right? I mean, c'mon, you threw Free E. 

I won't go into the motives for that meeting. If you'd like to know the 
motives, I'll scan the flyer and send it to you.

anyway

ricA

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Ian,


Hey bud, it's Vachon.  I'm up here, let's hook up....

573-2149

I'm not living in a dorm,  I live in Harrison apartments off of Lane Avenue. 
It's still on campus though.  talk to you later.


PS.
If I'm not home, leave a voice mail and i'll get back to you. I've been 
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Dude, your sig file is fucking huge. The least you could do is organize it
in an artful way so someone who tries to read it can figure out what all
those damn addresses and phone numbers are for.

PLUR

Matt

On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Ian Hard wrote:

> There is a list like that. It is stlahole@e-groups and anything goes. No 
> PLUR allowed. Join us, you'll love it. Bring your barf bag.
> I'm Ian Hard
> Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> 4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> St. louis, Mo.63116
> 314.994.1284
> Ian Hard Records
> Virtual Web Technology
> www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> www.ianhardrecords.com
> ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> 
> 
> >From: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>
> >Reply-To: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>
> >To: Pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] MW-Non-Raves
> >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:19:33 -0400
> >
> >You know, I am not tryin to point any elbos or anything, but there weren't 
> >near
> >as many people who thought they were the list admin before the stl raves 
> >list
> >when down.  We are more than ravers people, if all we did was rave, that 
> >would
> >be lame, and the scene would definately go nowhere.  Don't get mad when 
> >people
> >talk about other things, if you don't want to read it delete it.  It is the 
> >key
> >right below insert directly to the right of your enter key.  Personally, I 
> >want
> >to hear about everyones nrr sides, we all know about who spins what and 
> >where
> >everyone is from, why not get a little more intimate and try to actually 
> >get to
> >know each other on the list.  Scary thought, eh?If we can't do that then 
> >maybe
> >we do need another list: mw-iwannaknowmoreaboutsomeonethanhowravetheyare  
> >anyone
> >interested?  Once again sorry I am bitching, but I really need a ciggarette 
> >and
> >I am bitching at everyone today.
> >pEaz,
> >Stumpalumpagus
> >
> >Pixie wrote:
> >
> > > anybody for starting a list called  mw-non-raves-related? so we can all 
> >go
> > > join it, and the people who bitch can stay here and talk about raves and
> > > rave dj's and rave accessories and rave drugs and raves and ravers and 
> >rave
> > > clothing and raves in their area and rave all day long?
> > >
> > > ooh wait, that would suck, because then we couldn't talk about anything
> > > raves related...hrmm, how about just having a discussion board where 
> >people
> > > who live in or are interested in the mw and who happen to go to or at 
> >one
> > > point went to raves and/or who listen to rave-type music can be a part 
> >of
> > > any number of discussions on any number of subjects simply because we 
> >have a
> > > common factor semi-uniting most of us? is that possible? Some of the 
> >people
> > > on here I don't think I could ever be friends with, cause I can't keep 
> >up a
> > > rave-related conversation 24-7...and god forbid that any one of us might
> > > want to have a discussion with people we don't see every day or in 
> >person
> > > about something non-rave-related...that's just a horrible thought.
> > >
> > > Fuck the internet for making us think we could connect with other people 
> >all
> > > over the world with common interests and talk about something we don't 
> >have
> > > in common.
> > >
> > > Rave On!!!
> > > pixie
> > >
> > > -
> > > questions about this mailing list?
> > > http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
> >
> >
> >-
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

> 
> >Just a bunch of people sitting around thinking they were 
> >important. 
> 
> That's quite a bold statement considering that just about every single 
> person who helped plan and put on that summit is on this list.
> 
This list is a bunch of people sending email they think is important. How
can we improve the scene? How can we get more PLUR at parties? Will free E
help?

Yes it will.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 00:38:05 1999
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got my piracetam today from ias in england via airmail.

will research and advise.

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Been taking my piracetum for exactly 6 days now. I have been taking 4 800mg 
tablets a day(and might I note, that I have seen rolls with better press 
jobs on the tablets), anyhow... I have noticed I can feel the reaction to 
them within a hour each morning of taking them. So far, I havent noticed any 
genius type thinking patterns occuring or any new nueral paths blazing about 
the ol' cranium, but I will keep you posted...


  And the color has to go.. Orange pills??

        Anyhow.. til my next update..

  Love to all,

      Dan Sharp

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i think we should get our own version of stlahole@egroups.whatever
if i knew how to start an e-mail list, i would do it myself, but since i 
dont....ill supervise.
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There are now some pics up from Even Furthur:


http://www.dropbass.net/html/dbn_efpics.html

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ok, maybe I've been living under a rock here in my cozy little college town, but
what the heck is this piracetam?  I'm assuming from the post that it is some new
chemical substance.
Does anybody have any valid web links or places I could go to research this?
Thanks....

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i think i'd also like to add that MC Marauder is a sexy ass mofo. and he is 
very crescent fresh. he will probably repay your generosity and hospitality 
with MADD sexual favors....
val

>From: Matt Positive <mplaffey@midway.uchicago.edu>
>Reply-To: Matt Positive <mplaffey@midway.uchicago.edu>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] Columbus people...Submerged 2
>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:06:11 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
>I'm desperately looking for a ride for MC Marauder from columbus to
>cleveland for SUBMERGED 2 on Sept 25th, 1999. He just moved down there for
>school and needs a ride to cleveland in order to play. your gas and
>admission will be paid for. also, marauder's a friendly person and has
>good taste in music. please e-mail me privately with your phone number or
>questions and i'll get back to you ASAP! thanks.
>
>matt
>
>p.s.
>if you want line-up info, etc on SUBMERGED 2, check out:
>http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/cal
>
>
>
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*************
yeah. thats what yer mom said.
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we pretend to be.
kv.
q: why dont cannibals eat clowns?
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FOR INFO ON PIRACETUM GOTO WWW.NUBRAIN.COM

THEN LOOK UNDER NOOTROPICS..AND THEN CLICK ON PIRACETUM, AND THEN READ 
AWAY...

              GOD ITS GOOD, ITS SO GOOD...
                              (0_O)
>ok, maybe I've been living under a rock here in my cozy little college 
>town, but
>what the heck is this piracetam?  I'm assuming from the post that it is 
>some new
>chemical substance.
>Does anybody have any valid web links or places I could go to research 
>this?
>Thanks....
>
>Ryan
>
>
>
>
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Is MC Marauder a 14-year old candy raver?

Matt

P.S. I have a digital media class this semester. I spend a lot of time in
the computer lab. Watch out.

On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, vaL vaLenzo* wrote:

> 
> i think i'd also like to add that MC Marauder is a sexy ass mofo. and he is 
> very crescent fresh. he will probably repay your generosity and hospitality 
> with MADD sexual favors....
> val
> 
> >From: Matt Positive <mplaffey@midway.uchicago.edu>
> >Reply-To: Matt Positive <mplaffey@midway.uchicago.edu>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [mw] Columbus people...Submerged 2
> >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:06:11 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >
> >I'm desperately looking for a ride for MC Marauder from columbus to
> >cleveland for SUBMERGED 2 on Sept 25th, 1999. He just moved down there for
> >school and needs a ride to cleveland in order to play. your gas and
> >admission will be paid for. also, marauder's a friendly person and has
> >good taste in music. please e-mail me privately with your phone number or
> >questions and i'll get back to you ASAP! thanks.
> >
> >matt
> >
> >p.s.
> >if you want line-up info, etc on SUBMERGED 2, check out:
> >http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/cal
> >
> >
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> valerie
> AIM: valgrL17
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> kv.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 01:57:41 1999
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This link may have been posted in the hayday of the tracker/synth
discussion, but if not:
 www.united-trackers.org
wonderful site, informative ya ya ya
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I've been to parties in many, many different cities, but there's always
one thing that remains the same...

There's always some kid with glowing objects more than eager to wave them
in front of your face.

glowtweak:  "Want a LIGHTSHOW?!!?!" *kid either sweats or drools all over
himself*
::time elapses::
jes c:  *pats kid affectionately on the head and thinks to herself, 'uhh,
thanks dude.  how silly you'd feel if you knew how sober i was.'*


kisses,
jessica / jes c
<3

ps-
there's also always someone who spontaneously gives you a backrub,
assuming you're rolling as hard as they are 'cuz you're talking to them
and being nice.

friendly e-tard:  *rubs back*  "R U Rolling??"
jes c:   "Nope, I'm just ..naturally.. nice."




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slowed down power cords actually make a decent sorta bassline.
                  Stumps

Yup they do!
Check my shit out at MoBass below.
Feel tha noise!


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be advised...the spike and mike sick and twisted festival of
animation is making a stop in detroit in december.
============>
I have NOT missed a tour in seven years.

"What kind of shit makes a sick fuck like TRUNK laugh?"

There ya have it kiddies!



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 How many of you will be at College in Indy sat?  If a lot are planning
 on we should have a netmeet or something.. just a thought..  I've 
 haven't got to meet anybody off the list yet..

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Lincoln001@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hmm....speaking of which..
> 
> i am throwing a lil party in march...and i was planning to list mw-rave list
> kids.. and kind of mix n match them.. (grin)...as far as exclusive mw-raves
> list party... i'm all for another..


Hell yeah!  I had a ton-o-fun last March...

I'll make zee lammies!  Someone really needs to get this
damn laminator away from me. ;P


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I have yet to go to one of those, and I'd really like to.  I'm out of school 
now, and not starting up again until either the winter or the fall, and don't 
really have much of a commitment to anything.  ("I have to work on Monday at 
8:30 am"  --nothing like that, anyways)  I don't think Urban Outfitters would 
be too upset if I took a weekend off.  I thought I'd be for sure able to make 
it to the last one in Urbana.. but that didn't work out.  blah blah blah.
Color me there.  For real!

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> 
> >>hit up darian for the shirt, her fonts are cool =D
> 
> Ok...paging darian......paging darian....


I hear myself being beckoned from Michigan, do I hear that
a t-shirt is in order???  Pretty soon the whole state 
will be clad with my fashions (if Doris ever gets the balls
to wear hers in public) ;P

Snag me a record from Mars &/or Mystere and it shall be done!
<clicks heels> ;)  I *wish* I could make it up there this
weekend (and believe me, I strongly considered it) but alas, 
my bones are road-weary from the summer.

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smitty's out cali
he does a good job 
that who we go through

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>So, I've decided to finally become unlazy and after a year of being
>dormant release some music.  So I was wondering: does anybody out there
>know of a good tape duplication place and a good CD duplication place?  I
>know if I get vinyl I'm going to have it pressed at www.urpressing.com,
>since they have very good prices and they were very helpful when I talked
>to them about my split 7-inch...
>
>Also, does anybody out there know of good record labels that I should send
>demo tapes to?  I make jungle, experimental, hardcore, trip-hop and rock
>stuff and so far I'm only sending it to Rephlex... I suppose I could send
>it to the obvious ones like Astralwerks and Moonshine too.
>
>And if anybody wants a copy just e-mail me.  I could send you a DIY one
>for free or whatever.
>
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:15:53 -0500 Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com> wrote:
>Psyko Slinky bong wrote:
>
>> ...i wanna cram a damn sock in their
>> throat and turn up the music...
>
>hmmmmm.
>
>a sock huh?
>
>did i ever tell ya bout socks?
>
nope.  tell us a story uncle arno!!  (or should i say uncle betty?  =)



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hey y'all out there.

just wonderin if anyone o ya that spins super dark and evil music would be interested in playin out in colorado  halloween night on the trust collective soundsystem.  

we're looking for super evil shite---preferably in the hardcore/breakcore/morphbeat or dark jungle etc arenaz.  so all o ya peepz that play christian farm trance or whatever hold off eh?  =)

e me back and we see what we can see.


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10.8.99 Columbia Mo
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Dynamics. $10 @ the door/ $8 with dog or cat food donation.
Full Moon Area
IRIX - Boulder, Co. (trust/deadly systems)
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TONY MARKHAM - KC (Ultra Omega/Boogie Knights)
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> Word is there's a party in KC on Saturday Oct 8. Anyone have any details?
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 07:31:49 1999
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On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Dan Sharp wrote:

+
+Been taking my piracetum for exactly 6 days now. I have been taking 4 800mg 
+tablets a day(and might I note, that I have seen rolls with better press 
+jobs on the tablets), anyhow... I have noticed I can feel the reaction to 
+them within a hour each morning of taking them.

you aren't taking nootropil(r), then, i'm assuming.
my pills are 1200mg...took two spaced out over 2 hrs, and noticed the
effects, as you said, within an hour.  a pleasant sensation of fairly
clear thought... i can see how it might intensify other psychoactives.

however, this smart drug was really put to the test tonight... work was a
bitch, and i got caught in a meeting and missed hooking up with a friend
on leave from the navy (unless she magically appears at my door tonight
yet) (that's what you  call digressing)

at any rate, i like it...the effects are subtle, nice.  music sounds like
it should, and becomes part of your surroundings rather than something
you really need to pay attention to.  not like lsd, or anything, but it is
a bit easier to focus.  i like a clear head, and it feels a bit like after
a trip without the tiredness (physically and mentally).  and, of course,
there's no visuals.  lights may or may not seem more intense...i think
that just happens to me depending upon my mood.

however, some of this
could be aftereffects of 25mg of ephedrine i
had this afternoon (yes, i know... i VERY rarely take this...i don't like
palpatations).

if you buy this stuff expecting a high...you will be sorely dissapointed.

+ So far, I havent noticed any 
+genius type thinking patterns occuring or any new nueral paths blazing about 
+the ol' cranium, but I will keep you posted...

you haven't noticed them? ;)  dude, you're just modest.

i think the potential with this drug lies in the fact that your ability to
focus is enhanced...and there's no chance for it to overwhelm you to the
point where you're caught in awe from its effects.  it's nice.  worth the
money?  *shrug*  remains to be seen.  i'll use it as recommended for
awhile... see how i feel about myself.

now, on the other end of the spectrum, anyone i know and trust experiment
with salvia divinorum?

i think it would be responsible to respond privately to this one...

-chad
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This site had me rollin' on the ground laughing!

www.hamsterdance.com

;-) Renee'!

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Thanks to anyone who attended SoundStorm this past weekend in Cleveland.
The party was dope, even tho we only got 500 people and lost our asses we
still had fun. Sy & Storm did a kickass set & Angel Alanis' Live PA was
probably the best pa i've seen in my 7 yrs of partying. Delta 9 proved he is
one hardcore mutha fuck!
 Stay tuned our next event will be in Chicago & we have a all mighty
surprise.  It's gonna be big!
Also thanks to everyone that helped pass out  flyers for us, we apperciate
your help.

peace,
Full Spectrum & L.I.M.E.

mike d / gruve
Full Spectrum Chicago
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Hello my name is Hilary and i am from the Twin Cities, and i just wanted to 
let everyone know who i was.  :O) umm yeah thnx buh bye

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Subject: [mw] "Her PLURness" <luvworld@excite.com>: RAver BEwARE!
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--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: "Her PLURness" <luvworld@excite.com>
To: simenx@aol.com, ASHLEYEAKIN@ALTAVISTA.NET, efieramosca@att.com,
djtom33@hotmail.com, makossa_187@raveworld.net, cannedheat@juno.com
Subject: RAver BEwARE!
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:09:54 PDT
Message-ID: <937901394.16530.477@excite.com>

Hi everyone,
   > 
   >  This is Emanuel from DanceSafe.
   > 
   >  We put a warning out last week about the green triangles going
around
   >  containg high doses of DXM, the nasty chemical in Robotusin cough
syrup.
   We
   >  would like to raise the level of our warning in response to the
high
   number
   >  of green triangle casualties at Quest. Before we left at 3:00am,
eight
   >  people had already been sent away in ambulances after consuming one
or
   more
   >  of these pills.
   > 
   >  Once again, the current green triangles do not contain any ecstasy.
   Rather,
   >  they contain dextromethorphan (DXM). Taking one of these pills is
the
   >  equivalent of downing an entire bottle of Robotusin cough syrup.
   > 
   >  The effects of DXM vary, but generally, it doesn't make you feel
good.
It
   >  makes most people dizzy and very "out of it," and some people
experience
   >  hallucinations. In some people, it makes their skin itch. Virtually
nobody
   >  feels like dancing on DXM. And some people have such a bad reaction
that
   >  they need to be hosptalized! This drug is nothing like ecstasy. It
was
put
   >  in these pills only because it is cheaper and the manufacturers can
make
   >  more profits.
   > 
   >  WARNING!   This drug is VERY DANGEROUS to take along with real
ecstasy!
   > 
   >  DXM and MDMA (real ecstasy) are "contraindicated." This means that
if
they
   >  are taken together, it can create a life-threatening situation.
This
is
   >  because both drugs are metabolized through the same liver enzyme
(CYP-2D6)
   >  and inhibit the breakdown of each other. YOU CAN EASILY OVERDOSE IF
YOU
   MIX
   >  DXM AND ECSTASY!
   > 
   >  What is particularly frightening about this situation, aside from
the
fact
   >  that SO MANY of these pills were going around, is that a lot of
people,
   >  after taking a green triangle and realizing it was fake, wanted to
take
   >  some real ecstasy in the hopes that it would make them feel better.
We
   >  counseled many people last night to resist this temptation and NOT
take
   any
   >  other ecstasy tablets during the night. We understand how let down
someone
   >  might feel wanting to experience the mild, pleasant empathy of
   >  ecstasy--conducie to dancing--and then suddenly finding themselves
feeling
   >  wasted, completely out of it, and totally unable to dance. The
temptation
   >  to find a real ecstasy tablet at this point may be very great for
some
   >  people. While we were able to convice some people to resist this
urge,
   some
   >  people gave in and a few ended up hospitalized.
   > 
   >  Please, whoever is selling the green triangles, STOP selling them.
Take a
   >  loss for the sake of somebody else's life.
   > 
   >  If you have a green triangle, DO NOT TAKE IT. DXM is not very
pleasant,
   and
   >  is dangerous if mixed with Ecstasy.
   > 
   >  If everybody helps spread the word about these pills, we can get
them
out
   >  of the community, and perhaps save somebody's life.
   > 
   >  To see a picture of these pills, go to:
   >  http://www.harmreduction.net/dancesafe/eresults.html
   > 
   >  Also, another fake pill going around last night was called
"Popeyes"
or
   >  "Pink Panthers." It was a yellowish pill with a "P" on it. These
pills
   >  contain NO ECSTASY. We do not yet know what they contain, but we
are
   >  sending one off to the laboratory tomorrow. The people who took
them
   >  reported that they felt nothing, but they nevertheless could
contain
   >  something dangerous to some people, or dangerous if mixed with
something
   >  else. DO NOT TAKE THE "P" PILLS!

Peace out everyone, and be selective to your precious bodies.  MISS
YOU!!!
Yaze




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 11:40:39 1999
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Hey who is all going to this party up in ChiTown?

With a line up this phat, its going to be hard to miss! Paul Johnson, Boo
Williams, Skipp, Paul Anthony, Mystic Bill....and on and on...

I know Amber, Spencer, myself,  and maybe like 4 other people are going to
go....so hit me back if your going and maybe we can car pool or set up a net
meet or something.

Peace,

Toby
Kindred Groove, St. Louis
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-----Original Message-----
From: DeeJay Recharge <deejayrecharge@usa.net>
To: mo-raves <mo-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:03 PM
Subject: Harvest-1999


HARVEST-DIRECTIONS Saturday September 25, 1999 St.Louis, MO U.S.A.
>From Downtown St.Louis, MO

Take Interstate 55 South (roughly 35 miles)
to Exit 174B/ Highway 67 South (just past Festus)
Travel 21 miles to 1st right after huge JESUS billboard
(Space Walker building on corner)
Go One Block
At 1st stop sign turn right on to Barry Road
Follow to Entrance gate on Right!

P.S. This Part Is Still On People So Make Sure You Show Up!
Print these directions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In a message dated 9/21/99, 5:41:41 PM, RobertC4me@aol.com writes:
<<It looks to be one HELL of an event.>>

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From: "Princess Applesauce In Da House" <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
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throw some snakes on him...they'll put the fire out!
**lora**

--just doin my job...


>NO!!!   REALLY!!!!    Ken *IS* on fire!!!!
>
>
>derek.
>
>
> >
> >(2) Are inside jokes.  There's 500+ people on this
> >list, and the vast majority of us weren't there that
> >night with Rica and RayRay to really "get" this post.
> >If you were there, congratulations.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:06:49 1999
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In a message dated 9/21/99, 5:41:41 PM, RobertC4me@aol.com writes:
<<It looks to be one HELL of an event.>>

Yes and no. No disrespect to the promoters, but not seeing Lenny Dee or any 
other big  hardcore acts kinda pissed me off. When I say big hardcore acts I 
mean outta state/ outta the US talent. I mean, I always thought that Dee Day 
had at least one hard act. Well...maybe there will be an event worthy of 
being a Halloween event. 

Death

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:13:27 1999
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From: varsha <varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu>
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>  How many of you will be at College in Indy sat?  If a lot are planning
>  on we should have a netmeet or something.. just a thought..  I've 
>  haven't got to meet anybody off the list yet..

I'll be there with the SUBterror kids...and i'll probably be heckling
Misha for playing pussy-ass trance too. 

bom shankar!
--varsha

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:16:26 1999
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>I simply was
>commenting on the fact that I thought that spreading a rumor like that on
>the net was in very poor taste and was disrespectful to the people
>involved...

ok, i think everyone involved in this *rumor* has responded to it, and they 
*know* its a joke, damn, i think they even started it, so i think its a good 
idea if you keep you *comments* to yourself...

>>>phat chace bitch,
>
>chance has an N in it sweety.

ok, and youve never ever made a typo????

>And don't worry...you're dick's too small to satisfy my ass. (Mind

ok, lets talk about DISRESPECT
**lora**
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:32:14 1999
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I'll be playing pussy ass trance from 11:30 - 1:00 so
PLEASE don't have a netmeet then or i'll fucking nuke
your yankee asses =)
Come say hi tho =)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:32:15 1999
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I'll be playing pussy ass trance from 11:30 - 1:00 so
PLEASE don't have a netmeet then or i'll fucking nuke
your yankee asses =)
Come say hi tho =)

misha
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:36:32 1999
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Shit I posted this crap twice...sorry all

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 13:43:17 1999
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>Hey I am back on the list (albeit in digest form this time) and I was
>wondering if any one could give me a quick summary of what I missed in the
>past 4 months?

ok, adam youre a smart guy....you should know what went on here...
drama, drama, every once in a while some party info, shit talkin, and some 
BLAH BLAH BLAH!....
any questions???
i love this list...
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 14:01:00 1999
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ok, ya know, i was actually going to overlook the fact that someone was just 
bitching about trashing someone in a public forum...
also, lets not threaten anyone...its so un-plurry...
damn yall, i leave for one freakin day and everything gets outta 
hand...youre all grounded...
**lora**


>ok, ya know, i was actually starting to overlook the
>things ian has done in the past because he was nice
>and took me off his web page, but then, right after
>the party is over he comes back twice as bad saying i
>threated him!!!!!! I'll go on ahead and clear up what
>he misundestood as a threat.. i said in an e-mail that
>i was part of KG and so was nathan, so it would
>obviously be beneficial for him to take off the nasty
>thing he said about us on his webpage (i didn't say
>why, i assumed that he would figure it out, silly me)
>reason being if we happen to discuss actually trusting
>the creep at a meeting i would say "hey, he's not that
>bad, i'm willing to give him a chance." But not now, i
>think we've been way too nice to him, john, you still
>like the idea of taking him out back and taking a few
>baseball bats to his ass, cuz the guy NEEDS some sensebeat into

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>> >               << A bear walks into a bar and sits down. He bangs on 
>>the> >
> >> bar with his paw and demands a beer. The bartender approaches and say> 
> >"we
> >> don't serve beer to bears in bars in Billings, Montana." The bear,
> >> becoming angry, demands again that he be served a beer. The bartender
> >> again tells him "We don't serve beer to bears in bars in Billings,
> >> Montana". The bear, very angry now, says "if you don't serve me a> 
> >beer,
> >> I'm going to eat that lady sitting at the end of the bar." The> 
> >bartender,
> >> once again says " sorry, we don't serve beer to bears in bars in
> >Billings,
> >> Montana." The bear goes to the end of the bar, and as promised, eats> 
> >the
> >> woman. He comes back to his seat and again demands a beer The> 
> >bartender
> >> says "sorry, we don't serve beer to bears in bars in Billings, Montana> 
> >
> >> that are on drugs." The bear says I'm not on drugs.
> >>               The bartender says "Yes, you are, that was a
> >> barbitchyouate."

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 14:39:46 1999
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ok, i am right with you people on abotu 65-70% of the shite said on this 
here list...but the rest of it is complete b.s.
i take my raving VERY seriously (just as much as the next person)
some people go to raves as an escape from their *realities*, i go because it 
is PART of my reality...but at the same time, i think we all need to step 
back and take all this for what it really is:
ENTER*freakin*TAINMENT...
just a thought...
begin flaming....NOW!
PLUR me rotten babEE!
**lora**

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 15:06:37 1999
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Lora,

>>ENTER*freakin*TAINMENT...just a thought...

You hit the nail on the head girl.  :)

*and for the record, I've apologized for being a butthead with that post the 
other day...I was in a bad mood and I vented in the wrong places*

PLUR,

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Yea, aRNO has a, um, special use for socks... :)

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Psyko Slinky bong wrote:

> hey y'all out there.
> 
> just wonderin if anyone o ya that spins super dark and evil music would be interested in playin out in colorado  halloween night on the trust collective soundsystem.  
> 
> we're looking for super evil shite---preferably in the hardcore/breakcore/morphbeat or dark jungle etc arenaz.  so all o ya peepz that play christian farm trance or whatever hold off eh?  =)
> 
> e me back and we see what we can see.

Ooh, I'd be interested in doing this, but isn't this the same night as WTW
Round 3?

Can anybody confirm that WTW3 is Halloween?  That's why my friend Jason
(Bombardier) told me but I haven't seen any fliers or anything yet.

Anyway, if there's WTW I can't possibly miss it; that was one of the most
amazing experiences of my life.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 15:32:44 1999
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we'll be havin' some fun in the barn on helloween.

trust in the lord.


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i say we have the netmeet at midnite...in the opposite room that dj tsar is
spinning.

Gip

At 06:34 AM 9/22/99 -0700, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
>I'll be playing pussy ass trance from 11:30 - 1:00 so
>PLEASE don't have a netmeet then or i'll fucking nuke
>your yankee asses =)
>Come say hi tho =)


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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, jon dica! wrote:
> we'll be havin' some fun in the barn on helloween.
> trust in the lord.

Amen brother!

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Anyone want to do lunch today?  I'm getting hungry...

:)

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In a message dated 9/22/1999 9:01:22 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
applesauce909@hotmail.com writes:

<< hand...youre all grounded...
 **lora** >>

Do we all get a spanking?? Or can just I have one in private???

givin Lora her only chance to physically abuse me
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Hey, are any of you Minneapolis netravers going to Tricky this weekend?  I
know he's not exactly ravy, but I'm expecting it'll still be quite a good
show.  Certainly better than Bassment Jaxx. :)  But not as good as Massive
Attack last year, of course.

And also, Zodiak is this weekend, right?  I suppose I should go to that to
support my local Freakboy.  Besides, I'm all about bringing back the
kick-ass medium-sized warehouse party.

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i just got another computer. a celery ;P 500, it hauls ass! what's this
got to do with zodiak you ask? well i splurged and got the dvd, so now i'm
a broke ass mofo. but i could drop ten bills this weekend, considering how
few and far between warehouses are these days...will there be any
hardcore?

=j

> And also, Zodiak is this weekend, right?  I suppose I should go to that to
> support my local Freakboy.  Besides, I'm all about bringing back the
> kick-ass medium-sized warehouse party.


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>i just got another computer. a celery ;P 500, it hauls ass! what's this
>got to do with zodiak you ask? well i splurged and got the dvd, so now i'm
>a broke ass mofo. but i could drop ten bills this weekend, considering how
>few and far between warehouses are these days...will there be any
>hardcore?


    Only 500? Luke, brandon, and I are all sitting on Celeron 550 systems,
fully decked with 3D audio and high-end video, big hard drives, and CD
burners. Come play with us on saturday, we're gonna have a little LAN party
most of the day before the party... =] yeah we're nerds, but that's why they
call us net-nerds... oh yeah, and there's definitely gonna be hardcore, our
local king of hardcore Mr. Arjay Khetamine will be there, in fact he's
throwing it, so he'll definitely be playing, although he may opt to go with
his hard techno set he's been spinning lately, for $10 you can't afford NOT
to! shit, that reminds me, gotta get my presales...

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To all:


  Seeking a friend who can listen to all of my complaining and then offer me 
advice on what to do. Need to have real life experience dealing with 
extremely messed up situations. Need to be trustworthy as to all 
conversations must be kept off the record. Relationship experience a major 
plus..

  Send all applications to be my friend to

kode_@hotmail.com

         p.s. As most of my posts are sarcastic and often humorous.. This is 
not.. I am serious...
  Thanks for yer time..

  love to all
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In a message dated 9/22/1999 12:20:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
kode_@hotmail.com writes:

<< To all:
 
 
   Seeking who can listen to all of my complaining and then offer me 
 advice on what to do. Need to have real life experience dealing with 
 extremely messed up situations. Need to be untrustworthy as to all 
 conversations must be kept on the record. Relationship experience a major 
 plus..
 
   Send all applications to be my friend to
 
 kode_@hotmail.com
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In a message dated 9/22/1999 12:28:11 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Oldsklo 
writes:

<< In a message dated 9/22/1999 12:20:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
kode_@hotmail.com writes:
 
 << To all:
  
  
    Seeking who can listen to all of my complaining and then offer me 
  advice on what to do. Need to have real life experience dealing with 
  extremely messed up situations. Need to be untrustworthy as to all 
  conversations must be kept on the record. Relationship experience a major 
  plus..
  
    Send all applications to be my friend to
  
  kode_@hotmail.com
   >>
  >>

Now this sounds like the MW mailing list......

watching the mw-knife twist in his back
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Arjay Ketamine will be spinning hardcore at zodiac

tickets are 10 before midnight and presales 15 after midnight
check out the link below for the skinny

Adam Sjogren
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Ok, since he is only giving you one chance, feel free to physically
abuse the stumpman anytime you feel the need.
Your humble servant,
stumpster

Oldsklo@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/22/1999 9:01:22 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> applesauce909@hotmail.com writes:
>
> << hand...youre all grounded...
>  **lora** >>
>
> Do we all get a spanking?? Or can just I have one in private???
>
> givin Lora her only chance to physically abuse me
> Shawne
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In a message dated 9/22/1999 12:35:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
stumpyky@aye.net writes:

<< Ok, since he is only giving you one chance, >>

One chance is all she needs/deserves...

havin 20/20 vision
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:14:33 -0500, Matt Murphy wrote:

>    Only 500? Luke, brandon, and I are all sitting on Celeron 550 systems,
>fully decked with 3D audio and high-end video, big hard drives, and CD
>burners.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....

Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
no respect from me ;)

Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro

	Joe

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Thnx  allot for the welcome Phil!!  :o) *HIl*




What up, welcome to the list, you will find sometimes that things get to be a
bit on the side of madness, but for the most part it can be fun. Im phil and 
im
from detroit. If you post intelligently you will earn more respect than if you
do not, good luck and have much fun.           peace.

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check it out:

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 18:03:54 1999
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Sorry to disagree but...

I thought Soundstorm SUCKED!!!

Lots of kids I talked to agreed... some complaints included...

1) $30 ( $25 w/canned good ) was WAY to much for this event. The lineup was 
decent, but anything more than $20 for that lineup is absurd. I get in to 
all Agora events for free ( thanks Jamie!!! ) otherwise I wouldn't have went 
to Soundstorm.
2) The Agora completely SUCKS ASS!!! Everyone is so sick of that place and 
it's stormtrooper/thug security squad. These guys are way out of hand. They 
are worse than the BTS or any of the pushers. It has gotten to the point 
where most kids will not go there, under ANY circumstances, no matter who 
you book or what you charge. Even some straightedge kids I know feel this 
way...
3) Many people were searched/shaken down for no reason @ all. My friend 
handed someone a lighter and they were both hasseled, told to empty pockets 
and even remove thier shoes!!!
4) The party was supposed to end @ 6am, but they shut it down @ 5. And where 
was Halo, by the way!!!

There's more but I gotta go. I will say the lights and visuals were great, 
music was okay, Angel and Colette were good. I know Will from L.I.M.E., and 
he's a good promoter but I'm sorry, this was not a good event @ all. I'm 
sorry to hear you guys lost your asses, but we cannot stand the Agora 
anymore. Upcoming events will draw less and less people until things change, 
or prod. co's. get smart and find better venues. Christ, I get in for FREE 
and I still don't wanna go there!!!

BOYCOTT THE AGORA!!!
Aaron

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
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Subject: [mw] SoundStorm Thanks
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 03:24:15 -0500

Thanks to anyone who attended SoundStorm this past weekend in Cleveland.
The party was dope, even tho we only got 500 people and lost our asses we
still had fun. Sy & Storm did a kickass set & Angel Alanis' Live PA was
probably the best pa i've seen in my 7 yrs of partying. Delta 9 proved he is
one hardcore mutha fuck!
  Stay tuned our next event will be in Chicago & we have a all mighty
surprise.  It's gonna be big!
Also thanks to everyone that helped pass out  flyers for us, we apperciate
your help.

peace,
Full Spectrum & L.I.M.E.

mike d / gruve
Full Spectrum Chicago
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 18:27:06 1999
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>>    Only 500? Luke, brandon, and I are all sitting on Celeron 550 systems,
>>fully decked with 3D audio and high-end video, big hard drives, and CD
>>burners.
>
>Yeah, yeah, yeah....
>
>Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
>with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
>no respect from me ;)
>
>Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
>with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro


    hehe, that would be pretty sweet, but I'm just running a celeron 550,
128MBs of ram, an 18GB 7200rpm HD, SCSI CD-R and ZIP, A3D 2.0 soundcard, and
a voodoo3 3000, the DVD drive is coming as soon as I figure out how much
money I have left this month... =]

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 18:38:04 1999
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Subject: [mw] NRR: any java coder here?
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it's been too long since my last java course and i haven't done
much with it since (well, wrote one simple servelet about 6 months
ago, but that's about it). 

i am stumped with a homework problem...

use recursion to output table with 4 columns and n rows (n>1, taken
from the user). first column is the n int, 2nd is the i th fibonacci
number, 3rd is ratio of i th fibonacci number to its predecessor..fib(i)/
fib(i-1), 4th is (5/3)^i.

any thoughts? e-mail me :> i'll be eternally grateful.

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ok, only one person gets the privlege of being physically abused by me...and 
im giving you all one guess who it is...
**lora**

<< Ok, since he is only giving you one chance, >>

One chance is all she needs/deserves...

havin 20/20 vision
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C'mon lora.....can you be any more obvious?

Everybody knows now that it's ricA


ricA
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"Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com> said:

>Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
>with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
>no respect from me ;)
>
>Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
>with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro


Oh, and what about my prototype quad  PPC G4 machine? Overclocked to 1.2
GHz,  and is running Mac OS 10 with a 500 GB hot swappable UltraSCSI-2 LVD
RAID level 0, 1.5 GB of RAM,  3 ATI Rage Nexus video cards driving 3
Hitatchi 21" monitors, an Aurora Design Igniter video capture board with
the optional TV tuner (so I can watch V.I.P. with Pamela Lee-Anderson), and
a complete Digidesign ProTools recording studio.  So there.  ; )

Of course, there's only a prototype or two running at Apple right now.
Someday I'll own this thing and stop having wet, geeky dreams about it.

MW-Raves geeks UNITE!


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ok enuff of this l33t comp sci n3rd talk you're turning me on.....

/me runs to the bathroom


> >>    Only 500? Luke, brandon, and I are all sitting on Celeron 550
systems,
> >>fully decked with 3D audio and high-end video, big hard drives, and CD
> >>burners.
> >
> >Yeah, yeah, yeah....
> >
> >Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
> >with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
> >no respect from me ;)
> >
> >Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
> >with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro
>
>
>     hehe, that would be pretty sweet, but I'm just running a celeron 550,
> 128MBs of ram, an 18GB 7200rpm HD, SCSI CD-R and ZIP, A3D 2.0 soundcard,
and
> a voodoo3 3000, the DVD drive is coming as soon as I figure out how much
> money I have left this month... =]
>
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But what are you guys talking about???

In a message dated 9/22/99, 1:47:24 PM, events@dynamicgroove.com writes:
<<>    Only 500? Luke, brandon, and I are all sitting on Celeron 550 systems,
>fully decked with 3D audio and high-end video, big hard drives, and CD
>burners.

Yeah, yeah, yeah....

Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
no respect from me ;)

Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro>>

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Now that I figured out how to properly send things, it's only polite to
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>Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
>with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
>no respect from me ;)
----
ha! you all suck.

486/dx2 66mhz running win 3.11 is where it's at! 8 meg of ram
(upgraded from the standard 4!) 4x cd-rom!(yes! quad speed!). 
i don't even know how big the hd is, 20 meg or some such obscene 
amount. got netscape 2 on there to boot. ultimate machine! 

get with the retro computing trend with this 16 bit beauty!
buy now and we'll include the boot disk absolutely free!

paid $1300 for it. computer renaissance would just laugh if i
bring it in - it's priceless! make your offer today!

next month offering: commodore64. 8 bit heaven! abundant 64k of ram
and the familiar "38911 basic bytes free" blue display!

john.dove


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hehehe yeah right... lora has a standards. =)



On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

> C'mon lora.....can you be any more obvious?
> 
> Everybody knows now that it's ricA
> 
> 
> ricA
> Porch Honky Militant
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TIS I!!!


On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:

> 
> ok, only one person gets the privlege of being physically abused by me...and 
> im giving you all one guess who it is...
> **lora**
> 
> << Ok, since he is only giving you one chance, >>
> 
> One chance is all she needs/deserves...
> 
> havin 20/20 vision
> shawne
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Do any of you st. louis people know a guy named ryan who is a real good
dancer and just moved there recently from springfeild?  I think his
e-mail addy is soma336@aol.com or a girl named callie whos addy is
calista_ _ _@yahoo.com
Any info would me much appreciated,
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:21:03 -0500, Chandratat, John    wrote:

>
>get with the retro computing trend with this 16 bit beauty!


Ha Ha.  I got you beat.  I also have a Mac SE.

What is that ?  6 mhz...maybe 8 ?  ;)

	Joe

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 13:33:39 -0500, Matt Murphy wrote:

>
>    hehe, that would be pretty sweet, but I'm just running a celeron 550,
>128MBs of ram, an 18GB 7200rpm HD, SCSI CD-R and ZIP, A3D 2.0 soundcard, and
>a voodoo3 3000, the DVD drive is coming as soon as I figure out how much
>money I have left this month... =]
>
>        -- Matt Murphy --
>
>

>>
>>Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
>>with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro
>

Whoops...I forgot my eMagic Audiowerk 8 digital soundcard and
Ricoh MP6200 CD-RW.  =)

	Joe 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 22 20:15:19 1999
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hey fawn. i met you at forever after and at a new beginning and just was 
seeing if anybody i met recently was on this e-group. my name is mitch, you 
gave me a whistle in mason city and we just chatted very briefly at a new 
beginning. anyway i just wanted to say hello if ya remember meeting me. PLUR

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Just cuz pixie likes her NRR so much, I'm making a special allowance and
even gonna post nrr... just for hrr..

Anyway John, I don't have your answer, and really can't even give it a
single thought cuz I'm stumped on my own c++ problem right now... stupid
'perfect numbers'... grrr... can't even use math.h!!  What the hell is
this!!!  

hee
Ah well, looks like this is one that won't get turned in running.  =)

Kale/DreamSequence


On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, john chandratat wrote:

> 
> it's been too long since my last java course and i haven't done
> much with it since (well, wrote one simple servelet about 6 months
> ago, but that's about it). 
> 
> i am stumped with a homework problem...
> 
> use recursion to output table with 4 columns and n rows (n>1, taken
> from the user). first column is the n int, 2nd is the i th fibonacci
> number, 3rd is ratio of i th fibonacci number to its predecessor..fib(i)/
> fib(i-1), 4th is (5/3)^i.
> 
> any thoughts? e-mail me :> i'll be eternally grateful.
> 
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Oh you scare me phil.... 
You'd get kicked off of mw-trance, just for posting such a thing...
You're obviously not geeky enuff. sigh
hee
Kale/DreamSequence

On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 PHILFART@aol.com wrote:

> But what are you guys talking about???
> 

>> In a message dated 9/22/99, 1:47:24 PM, events@dynamicgroove.com
writes:
>>    Only 500? Luke, brandon, and I are all sitting on Celeron 550
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so, im in the shower this morning and I am struck with the most
brilliant idea?
Why the fuck not have a question of the Day?
Hmmmmmmmm, I apologize if I am not    AVEY enough, or  if you are more
RAVE than I , or if all of my posts are not RAVE related, but most of
you people seem to know a hell of a lot about computers and if i need
help yer god damn right i m gonna hit this list up for some answers.
Also everyones always gives their opinions  when we don't ask for it so
i figure fuck it, give a forum for people to provide opinions. God
forbid if it is not rave related considering ALL I EVER DO IS GO TO
RAVES, ya know, gimme a break. So if  anyone else would participate in
this hit me up, if not well fuck it, i just wasted some list space and
time. Aight, later on, hopefully we can all learn something other than
who fuct who.         phil


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hell with that!
I got a damn abacus... given, it's a generator driven, turbo 1+2=5000,
triple lubed bars (for maximum slide potential) and... ooo get this... and
multicolored beads for non-binary data flow!!
WOO HOO!  I can't even read what I'm writing right now, it's just a bunch
of little beads goin' click click click click...
all night

click click
tick click
forever...click click... on and on ... aaarrrrrgbghhhh!!!!
MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP!@!!!

sigh
hee
Kale/DreamSequence


 On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:21:03 -0500, Chandratat, John    wrote:
> 
> >
> >get with the retro computing trend with this 16 bit beauty!
> 
> 
> Ha Ha.  I got you beat.  I also have a Mac SE.
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> What is that ?  6 mhz...maybe 8 ?  ;)
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You are most certainly not rave enough if you have to post to the list
apologizing in case you aren't

sheesh ;)


> Hmmmmmmmm, I apologize if I am not    AVEY enough, or  if you are more
> RAVE than I , or if all of my posts are not RAVE related


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Dude,

>>Hmmmmmmmm, I apologize if I am not    AVEY enough, or  if you are more 
>>RAVE than I...

You and Steen are DEFINITELY avey enough!  :)  Unfortunately though, Doris 
will always be the most avey of all.  :)

Never stand in her way....mwahahahaha.

Later bro!

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 anybody wanna organize this??

    *Shandi*


>i say we have the netmeet at midnite...in the opposite room that dj tsar
>is spinning.
>
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:28:25 -0500 (CDT) atomly <atomly@cyrus.net> wrote:
>Yea, aRNO has a, um, special use for socks... :)


what you mean spankin' widdem?


shaww....big deal!  everyone does THAT!!


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In a message dated 9/10/99 10:45:07 AM Central Daylight Time, 
demmon@students.uiuc.edu writes:

<< Hmmm, not a hell of a lot more.
 
 0.63 for 90 minute bulk tapes
 0.08 for the cases
 0.03 for the labels
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 =
 94 cents for me to produce my latest tape of tracks. Plus about 850
 billion hours of making the music and mastering. And another bunch of
 hours to dupe, cut, fold, and stick. And of course this was DIY. Even if
 youd send a DAT and a cover design to a duping plant, it should only cost
 about $2-3 apiece in quantities over a hundred.
 
 Matt
  >>

but then if you're gettin em from the list...
another .70 something for a padded envalope and .77 shipping 
and $5 ends up not bein a bad price at all

peace
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In a message dated 9/10/99 10:45:07 AM Central Daylight Time, 
demmon@students.uiuc.edu writes:

<< Hmmm, not a hell of a lot more.
 
 0.63 for 90 minute bulk tapes
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 =
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 billion hours of making the music and mastering. And another bunch of
 hours to dupe, cut, fold, and stick. And of course this was DIY. Even if
 youd send a DAT and a cover design to a duping plant, it should only cost
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 Matt
  >>

but then if you're gettin em from the list...
another .70 something for a padded envalope and .77 shipping 
and $5 ends up not bein a bad price at all

peace
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well i found this on the raveteam website... so its not like im devulging 
some private information. Well Tommorrow Never Dies on October 9th will held 
in the Saint Paul Armory... Am i the only one seeing a pattern? the last 3 
major parties in Minneapolis have been held in used before (over-used..) 

All Mixed Up--> Bethel Ice Arena
Mental-----------> Roy Wilkins X hall
Tommorrow never Dies-> St Paul Amory. 

yes yes an All night venue is hard to find... but THAT hard????? i mean yes 
the trend has been towards ice arenas... i would like to see one that hasnt 
been used before.. much more interesting than the ARMORY? i mean Better 
Living Through Tricknology was a great set up...  But 4 times in the Armory? 
3 (or 4) in Bethel, and 3+ in the X hall. At least allied substructure has a 
lovely idea in bringing back "The kick-ass medium sized warehouse partie" And 
'Right To Dance' coming up from Soul Theology and Underground Revival does 
look promising for a new venue.... So Minneapolis does have some hope. Oh 
well this post was just one big opinion. 

-=Dont ask me.... Im just a kid=-
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no fair, I was gonna do the War Pigs jungle mix.
awwwww

--- Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net> wrote:
> Found an original pressing of Black sabbath w/war
> pigs and ironman and
> all kinda of other cool shit last night in my pops
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> and the sequencer on
> my comp.  Its my first jungle tune yet.  I will post
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> few days when it is done, slowed down power cords
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Is s/he really a man????

And if you went to Mental in MPLS... was s/he the one who spun the track
" i like the sound when you...Clap my hands...?"

Im just full o' questions.
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>we'll be havin' some fun in the barn on helloween.
>
>trust in the lord.

            AND FUCK THE DEVIL!!!!

>
>////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus
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Subconscious Collective presents...

Renewal
coming to Mason City, IA (Equidistant between Des Moines & Minneapolis, 
right on MN border on Iowa Side)

with djs:

Dj Dread - VR/Uptown Underground Records - Hard Trance - Connecticut
Kered - Nocturnals Productions - Hard Funky House - Connecticut
Tilzs - Zoop Productions - Trancecore -  Minneapolis
Freakboy - Allied Substructure - Acid Trance - Minneapolis
Tony Markham - Hard House - Kansas City
DJ Storm - Psychedelic Trance Liberation Front - Goa Trance/Ambient - Milwaukee
Reaktor - Subconscious Collective - Hardcore/Jungle - Ames

Ticket price to be determined (most likely around 10-13). This is just a 
pre-eflyer more djs will be added.

			            Jeffz
                             =( Subconscious Collective )=
                 http://www.welcome.to/SubconsciousCollective

	           ** Next Event:Renewal, December 18th **

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From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
Subject: [mw] Fwd: [stl] NSMM, Faded and Bass Invasion Present: Smokin'
To: curtain pantsed people <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
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for all you jungle cats (or bunnies) out there.

--- dlux@not-so-massive.com wrote:
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:43:00 -0700
> From: dlux@not-so-massive.com
> To: stl-raves@eGroups.com
> Subject: [stl] NSMM, Faded and Bass Invasion
> Present: Smokin'
> 
> All you jungle and hardcore starved MO kids are
> getting are finally
> getting your fill. A few weeks ago I said I would
> help make it happen
> and thanks to Faded, Jon Gotti (our newsest NSMM
> addition) and Bass
> Invasion, I can make good on that promise.
> 
> Friday, October 22: SMOKIN' in St Louis. 
> 
> Who's playin? WHO'S PLAYIN?!?!
> 
> Tech Itch and Decoder
> 
> That's who. These guys have been on just about every
> major UK dnb label
> in existence, and now are bringing their collection
> of the some of the
> sickest dub's in the world to St Louis. 
> 
> There will be some major additions to this lineup in
> the following
> days, so keep an eye on this list for what promises
> to be a ground
> breaking event for the entire state.
> 
> The rest of the confirmed lineup? I'll let faded or
> jon take care of
> that one, I ran out of paper, the list was too damn
> big.
> 
> dlux, NSMM
> 
> Oh, and thanks alot jon.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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anyone care to offer up an opinion on the vestax 17a?  I was going to buy a 
nice scratch mixer but I've decided they're a little out of my range and 
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So the 17a looks nice, i know i can trust vestax, and the price is good.  
anyone have any actual experience with it though?  Or any reccomendations of 
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hey Joshua!! Nice to have ya on the list...i am new on the list as well!!  I 
am Hilary nice to have met ya!! :o)



Now that I figured out how to properly send things, it's only polite to
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thnx allot...it's a long stroy and i will tell everyone about it one day  :o)




your dj name rules!  :)

pleasure to have you on this godforsaken list.  you will love it, then you 
will learn to hate it.  :P


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 02:41:53 1999
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:32:27 -0500
Subject: [mw] KYND tonite... 40 Ozs of Wednesday
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thats right folks...

finally, your mid-week excuse to drink away your sadness has come back to
the internet!!!  do you like the show? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU LIKE!!!
 Because tonite, KYND is gonna unbutton it's 500 dolla shirt... it's
gonna walk onto the people's airwaves... and as the dozens.... and dozens
of our fans begin chanting our name (40! 40! 40!)... oh screw it... this
is silly.  just listen to the damn show or we'll be forced to take our 40
Oz... loob that sumbitch up... turn it sideways and stick it straight up
your candy ass!!!

set those Real Players to pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra from 10PM - 2AM CDT

also... check out the ultra-cool studio cam at
http://not-so-massive.com/cam.html

tonite's guests-

.com
Dlux
FTS eternal (we hope)
Atomik
Pharaoh

as always... we will be chatting all nite in the #mw-raves on irc on
EfNet... stop in and say "hi"

peace...

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Awww Joe i didn't know you were on here!!! cute....thnx for the welcome 
sweety..love ya much...*hugz*  *Hil*



hey hil!!!!!!
glad to have you on Mw-Raves!!!!!!!!
:::::Hugs and kizzes::::
later babe!
-joe



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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:44:55 -0400
From: jessica <jessica@quickcard.com>
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Subject: {pb-cle} FW: DanceSafe Drug Warning! 

I thought the PB list should know about this too.

Lots of Love and Hugs
Jessica

-----Original Message-----
From:	DeepRaver [SMTP:DeepRaver@ij.net]
Sent:	Wednesday, September 22, 1999 2:11 PM
To:	florida-raves@ravedata.com
Cc:	SERAVES@AMERICAN.EDU; nw-raves@hyperreal.org; txraves@io.com; 
mtn-raves@hyperreal.org; ne-raves@world.std.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org; 
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Subject:	|NER| DanceSafe Drug Warning! - Forwarded

Hi everyone,

This is Emanuel from DanceSafe.

We put a warning out last week about the green triangles going around
containing high doses of DXM, the nasty chemical in Robotusin cough syrup.
We would like to raise the level of our warning in response to the high
number of green triangle casualties at Quest. Before we left at 3:00am,
eight people had already been sent away in ambulances after consuming one
or more of these pills.

Once again, the current green triangles do not contain any ecstasy.
Rather, they contain dextromethorphan (DXM). Taking one of these pills is
the equivalent of downing an entire bottle of Robotusin cough syrup.

The effects of DXM vary, but generally, it doesn't make you feel good. It
makes most people dizzy and very "out of it," and some people experience
hallucinations. In some people, it makes their skin itch. Virtually nobody
feels like dancing on DXM. And some people have such a bad reaction, that
they need to be hospitalized! This drug is nothing like ecstasy. It was put
in these pills only because it is cheaper and the manufacturers can make
more profits.

WARNING!   This drug is VERY DANGEROUS to take along with real ecstasy!

DXM and MDMA (real ecstasy) are "contraindicated."
This means that if they are taken together, it can create a
life-threatening situation. This is because both drugs are metabolized
through the same liver enzyme (CYP-2D6) and inhibit the breakdown of each
other. YOU CAN EASILY OVERDOSE IF YOU MIX DXM AND ECSTASY!

What is particularly frightening about this situation, aside from the fact
that SO MANY of these pills were going around, is that a lot of people,
after taking a green triangle and realizing it was fake, wanted to take
some real ecstasy in the hopes that it would make them feel better. We
counseled many people last night to resist this temptation and NOT take any
other ecstasy tablets during the night. We understand how let down someone
might feel wanting to experience the mild, pleasant empathy of
ecstasy--conducive to dancing--and then suddenly finding themselves feeling
wasted, completely out of it, and totally unable to dance. The temptation
to find a real ecstasy tablet at this point may be very great for some
people. While we were able to convince some people to resist this urge,
some people gave in and a few ended up hospitalized.

Please, whoever is selling the green triangles, STOP selling them. Take a
loss for the sake of somebody else's life.

If you have a green triangle, DO NOT TAKE IT. DXM is not very pleasant, and
is dangerous if mixed with Ecstasy.

If everybody helps spread the word about these pills, we can get them out
of the community, and perhaps save somebody's life.

Also, another fake pill going around last night was called "Popeyes" or
"Pink Panthers." It was a yellowish pill with a "P" on it. These pills
contain NO ECSTASY. We do not yet know what they contain, but we are
sending one off to the laboratory tomorrow. The people who took them
reported that they felt nothing, but they nevertheless could contain
something dangerous to some people, or dangerous if mixed with something
else. DO NOT TAKE THE "P" PILLS!

Thanks everyone!

Emanuel
DanceSafe

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Andrew Rikarts,  MCPS,  MIS Manager,  National Health Agency Associates, 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 02:51:28 1999
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, DarylsD wrote:
> www.mp3.com/doormouse

This is the greatest news... Ever.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 02:56:27 1999
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if anyone has Dan Efex's booking info (email/phone #) would they please
email it to me.  Or if dan is still on this list would he email me.

Is there some dj phone book anywhere that I could use?  Some reference of  
dj contacts?

thanks,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 03:39:33 1999
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hit me back with your phone number chica ;)  


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 03:42:06 1999
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ya know, it's really cute that you so happily accept the warm welcome
extended to you from this wonderful mw-family, and all the power to ya for
being welcomed w/ such open arms.  but considering that i
never see the original messages, but only your replies to it, i have to
assume that the original messages were sent in private.  so, um, do me a
favor and keep it there?  i, for one, wouldn't want my private
correspondence quoted on the list, and thanking everyone separately might
be considered a tad excessive.
or maybe i'm just being a petty bitch  *shrug*
nothin personal hon =)  rave on.
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call this number!!
oh come on cheapass, it's a 1-800 number!
get offline and call!


1-800-578-7453





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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 04:06:39 1999
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Screw you...Im BURNING!!!!



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hahahahahahahahahaha
i am going to talk to a reprezanative
awww the bitches arent open
fuck there luv
the prob dont even make menthols

whendee

>>call this number!!
>oh come on cheapass, it's a 1-800 number!
>get offline and call!
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and swap in my new one: jt111@tds.net
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it's a guy dressed in drag

-----Original Message-----
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>Is s/he really a man????
>
>And if you went to Mental in MPLS... was s/he the one who spun the track
>" i like the sound when you...Clap my hands...?"
>
>Im just full o' questions.
>joe.
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hi,


i just moved to madison, so if any of you kids like it dirty, let me 
know....276-8629

muchas gracias a dica y balerie balenzo for taking me to woodmans and 
showing me the ropes of comparative shopping:)

you guys rock!

jesse


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> 
>             AND FUCK THE DEVIL!!!!
> 
> >
> >////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus


Actually, unless you married him, wouldn't that be a sin?
And that leaves the question of whether marrying him/her would be ok...
cuz:
1.  He/She's the devil
2.  He/she might very well be the same sex as you.

Then leaves the question of which religion is right... or if they're all
wrong.

Or, has the devil actually twisted us all completely around, and all the
things that we think are sins are actually good things, and all our good
deeds are incredibly bad?

Which means that raving is actually bad, but all the mainstream people
think it's good....  no wait.

hee
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>Hi everyone,
>
>This is Emanuel from DanceSafe.
>
>We put a warning out last week about the green triangles going around
>containing high doses of DXM, the nasty chemical in Robotusin cough syrup.
>We would like to raise the level of our warning in response to the high
>number of green triangle casualties at Quest. Before we left at 3:00am,
>eight people had already been sent away in ambulances after consuming one
>or more of these pills.
>
>Once again, the current green triangles do not contain any ecstasy.
>Rather, they contain dextromethorphan (DXM). Taking one of these pills is
>the equivalent of downing an entire bottle of Robotusin cough syrup.
>
>The effects of DXM vary, but generally, it doesn't make you feel good. It
>makes most people dizzy and very "out of it," and some people experience
>hallucinations. In some people, it makes their skin itch. Virtually nobody
>feels like dancing on DXM. And some people have such a bad reaction, that
>they need to be hospitalized! This drug is nothing like ecstasy. It was put
>in these pills only because it is cheaper and the manufacturers can make
>more profits.
>
>WARNING!   This drug is VERY DANGEROUS to take along with real ecstasy!
>
>DXM and MDMA (real ecstasy) are "contraindicated."
>This means that if they are taken together, it can create a
>life-threatening situation. This is because both drugs are metabolized
>through the same liver enzyme (CYP-2D6) and inhibit the breakdown of each
>other. YOU CAN EASILY OVERDOSE IF YOU MIX DXM AND ECSTASY!
>
>What is particularly frightening about this situation, aside from the fact
>that SO MANY of these pills were going around, is that a lot of people,
>after taking a green triangle and realizing it was fake, wanted to take
>some real ecstasy in the hopes that it would make them feel better. We
>counseled many people last night to resist this temptation and NOT take any
>other ecstasy tablets during the night. We understand how let down someone
>might feel wanting to experience the mild, pleasant empathy of
>ecstasy--conducive to dancing--and then suddenly finding themselves feeling
>wasted, completely out of it, and totally unable to dance. The temptation
>to find a real ecstasy tablet at this point may be very great for some
>people. While we were able to convince some people to resist this urge,
>some people gave in and a few ended up hospitalized.
>
>Please, whoever is selling the green triangles, STOP selling them. Take a
>loss for the sake of somebody else's life.
>
>If you have a green triangle, DO NOT TAKE IT. DXM is not very pleasant, and
>is dangerous if mixed with Ecstasy.
>
>If everybody helps spread the word about these pills, we can get them out
>of the community, and perhaps save somebody's life.
>
>Also, another fake pill going around last night was called "Popeyes" or
>"Pink Panthers." It was a yellowish pill with a "P" on it. These pills
>contain NO ECSTASY. We do not yet know what they contain, but we are
>sending one off to the laboratory tomorrow. The people who took them
>reported that they felt nothing, but they nevertheless could contain
>something dangerous to some people, or dangerous if mixed with something
>else. DO NOT TAKE THE "P" PILLS!
>
>Thanks everyone!
>
>Emanuel
>DanceSafe
>
>=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB
>Andrew Rikarts,  MCPS,  MIS Manager,  National Health Agency Associates,=
 Inc.
>                     > > http://www.DeepRaver.com/resume.html < <=20
>                     "So many idiots...so few comets!" -- anonymous
>=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB
>*Any opinions expressed herein are my own, unless otherwise noted.*
>
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i'm not sure why i need advice on this.

i mean, a link is a link is a link, right?

i was asked to excange web page links with www.scottsdaleravers.com and 
www.zenfestla.com because they've added a link to my page.

should i do it?

am i obligated to now?  
please offer input... i plan on writing them, but i want your input first.

something about these sites doesn't mesh with my idea about what the
community should be, and i personally don't want to add the link, but i
think this is more something you should decide.

however, the sites do have a lot of information that could be read by a
few more people if they had our link.

thanks if you are taking this seriously,
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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:55:27 -0500 (CDT), atomly wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, DarylsD wrote:
>> www.mp3.com/doormouse
>
>This is the greatest news... Ever.
>

I went there and it was some pop band called "Doormouse"
It was NOT _the_ Doormouse, that we all know and love.

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Princess Applesauce In Da House wrote:

+ok, i think everyone involved in this *rumor* has responded to it, and they 
+*know* its a joke, damn, i think they even started it, so i think its a good 
+idea if you keep you *comments* to yourself...

i think what kevin is trying to say, is that whoever happened to open up
and read the messages is involved now.

i didnt' know it was a joke.

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On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Princess Applesauce In Da House wrote:

i take my entertainment seriously.

nothing better than quality entertainment. :)
it's how i'll remember us.

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chris, this is  nice mixer.

we used it at everest, and i was very pleased.
i'm actually planning on getting one myself.

for what i'm doing, anwyays, it felt good.  everything withing reach, but
not too cluttered.  

you can read all the specs, so i'm just offereing up my opinion.

i say, a scratch mixer is unneccessary unless it's all you plan to do with
it...

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HILARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!  this is another one of my girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!  <shakes 
ass>....glad you could make it...djboobwack is straight up my ghetto bootay 
sista....btw i can make it on friday to foxfire...i work 7-3 in the 
morn....so renee and i will pick you up...
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while i really like design of that mixer, the faders are cheapo, and won't
last too long. if you want nice faders that will last, drop another $100
bucks and look at the Numark mixers. they're new 2 channel mixer looks and
feels a lot like the high end ($700 range) Vestax mixers. price: $389 at
audio depot (i was lookin' at it today). if you want a 4 channel mixer, i've
had the Numark 1820x for a year and half, bought for just over $400 at Full
Compass, and very pleased with how it's held up.

of course, i still think about getting a Vestax PMC-50..

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well if you were partying before those 3 parties...you would have known they 
threw them in various places...yes, the last 3 parties have been in repeated 
places....but c'mon...they use to have them in roller rinks., ice areas...my 
ass..bringing back cheap kick ass *coughZODIAKcough* warehouse 
parties...etc..so long live warehouses and the men's bathroom!!!!!!!!  see 
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I'll second the recommendation on the pmc-17.  I've had one of these for
close to a year and a half and haven't had any serious problems with it
(would recommend taking a small screwdriver and tightening the mounting
hardware on all the faders, though)... the expandability of it is
nice... effects in/out toggles on each channel... takes three tables...
the third table (centre channel/sub) isn't attached to the crossfade,
which some people may find weird, but I've come to like it...

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 >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:06:03 -0400 (EDT)
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 >Subject: [mw] NRR but funny as hell

 >call this number!!
 >oh come on cheapass, it's a 1-800 number!
 >get offline and call!


i just called and .... that really wasn't that funny


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"chris ege" <chrisege@hotmail.com> said:

>So the 17a looks nice, i know i can trust vestax, and the price is 
>good.  anyone have any actual experience with it though?  Or any 
>reccomendations of anything else in that ($300) price range?

Trust Vestax?  Nope.  Sorry.  They've partnered up with Numark now, 
so you can't trust them at all any more.  I've played with a PMC-17a 
a couple of times and it's actually a pretty nice deck.  Nice feel, 
good faders, etc. All in all, it was pretty good.

I'm still saving my money to purchase a PMC-50a, and if it sucks, 
well, I'll just spend the time and money to replace the parts myself 
because the PMC-50a is the ONLY mixer that I've seen that has the 
features that I want.  From what I've heard, since Vestax has joined 
Numark, their customer service has gone to shit.  But, that's just 
what I've heard.  Check it out thoroughly in a shop before you buy, 
if you have a chance.




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 08:27:30 1999
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I've been looking for a mask of the guy from the movie "Mask" for halloween, 
but I've had no luck. To keep the subject alive, I have written a follow up 
article to the "Need a mask" article in the Ian Daily news (9/19/99).  The 
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Oh kool...  I'll code this for you!!!  When do you need it by?

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got mixed feelings about vestax.  certainly--for the money...you can't get a better mixer.  at least not in the states as far as i know.  when i got mine i just about wet my pants for three months straight.  it sounds great, has great features, solid faders...but the honeymoon has to end sometime.  and if for some reason something on it should break (and it will break eventually)  you would do better to have a knowledgeable friend who can tinker on it....cuz i don't think anywhere in the states services them...(and when tracoman did they took their sweet time about it....try being without a mixer for three months....rrgh!!!)

anyway like i said if i'm so damn pissed about vestax mixers why did i say fuck it and just buy a new one when the old one finally became too beat to function anymore?

i dunno.  if you don't absolutely crave the three turntable input feature i would say check out one o those rane turntablist scratch mixers---never used one but they look and feel pretty nice...comparable features...but more durable from everything i've heard about rane.  (and they have balanced outs too...)

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i picked up a rane mmx-8 mojo at guitar center recently for $400...its hard
to touch esp w/ its 4 table inputs, and high end feel...only downers about
it for me are the lack of full kills (+/- 15 high low) (+/-8 on the mids)
and its height (taller than your tables) ...other than that its an
untouchable deal...the new numarks are nice, and i almost bought one but put
the rane and numark side by side and theres no comparison in quality (though
the numark sm-1 is *much* improved)

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> I'll second the recommendation on the pmc-17.  I've had one of these for
> close to a year and a half and haven't had any serious problems with it
> (would recommend taking a small screwdriver and tightening the mounting
> hardware on all the faders, though)... the expandability of it is
> nice... effects in/out toggles on each channel... takes three tables...
> the third table (centre channel/sub) isn't attached to the crossfade,
> which some people may find weird, but I've come to like it...
>
> --
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rane mixers are monsters in size but they are really good in quality &
performance same with the apex series.
pioneer boards suck! my opinion.  and i dont like the roland boards,
everything sounds "daft punk"

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>i picked up a rane mmx-8 mojo at guitar center recently for $400...its hard
>to touch esp w/ its 4 table inputs, and high end feel...only downers about
>it for me are the lack of full kills (+/- 15 high low) (+/-8 on the mids)
>and its height (taller than your tables) ...other than that its an
>untouchable deal...the new numarks are nice, and i almost bought one but
put
>the rane and numark side by side and theres no comparison in quality
(though
>the numark sm-1 is *much* improved)
>
>dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
>940B morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
>techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@hotmail.com
>yahoo messenger: djoracle
>new website: http://zap.to/djoracle
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: dj fishead <fishead@mb.sympatico.ca>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 12:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [mw] vestax pmc-17a
>
>
>> I'll second the recommendation on the pmc-17.  I've had one of these for
>> close to a year and a half and haven't had any serious problems with it
>> (would recommend taking a small screwdriver and tightening the mounting
>> hardware on all the faders, though)... the expandability of it is
>> nice... effects in/out toggles on each channel... takes three tables...
>> the third table (centre channel/sub) isn't attached to the crossfade,
>> which some people may find weird, but I've come to like it...
>>
>> --
>> --------------+ one man's fish is another man's poisson +--------------
>>     hardcore editor : massive magazine : http://www.massivemag.com
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something about these sites doesn't mesh with my idea about what the
community should be, and i personally don't want to add the link, but i

ok, chad if you dont want to do it, DONT....my mom, who i think ive proven 
is a real smart lady, always told me that my first instinct was (almost) 
always right, everything after that was just b.s. and/or 
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In a message dated 9/22/99, 4:21:24 PM, kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu writes:
<<You'd get kicked off of mw-trance, just for posting such a thing...
You're obviously not geeky enuff. sigh
hee
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Yes..I'm not into that geeky stuff. Just music. That's about as geeky as I 
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that's why it was so funny! In this months issue of EQ Magazine, they test
out several free mp3 storage web sites using the band name "Doormouse"
I laughed so hard I peed in a cup and drank it!


On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:55:27 -0500 (CDT), atomly wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, DarylsD wrote:
> >> www.mp3.com/doormouse
> >
> >This is the greatest news... Ever.
> >
> 
> I went there and it was some pop band called "Doormouse"
> It was NOT _the_ Doormouse, that we all know and love.
> 
> 	Joe
 


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WOO HOO we are loved =)

But in everybody else's defense venues are SUPER hard to find in minneapolis



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ouch.


> 
>  anybody wanna organize this??
> 
>     *Shandi*
> 
> 
> >i say we have the netmeet at midnite...in the opposite room that dj tsar
> >is spinning.
> >
> >Gip
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What's going on this weekend in Chicago?

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I'm kinda lost on something... possibly didn't read the first post well
enuff.  Do they want to put a link to THEIR site on they mwraves site, or
do they want to put a link from their site to ours?

If they want a link from theirs to ours, I would agree with you in that I
kinda like our little net-city of mw-ravers.  Although the Luke Monteiro's
(the swedish kind) of the world may add a bit of spice to mw, having 50 of
them would not be my favorite thing.

If they want a link on mw to their site, I don't see a prob personally.
Just put it on some back-water webpage that no one will ever see.

Ah, I'm just rambling and don't know what I'm talking about, so I'm gonna
shut up... cuz I'm cool... really really cool.... and so avey that I can
barely stand my plurry little self.
=)

 Kale/DreamSequence

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PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:

> 
> 
> something about these sites doesn't mesh with my idea about what the
> community should be, and i personally don't want to add the link, but i
> 
> ok, chad if you dont want to do it, DONT....my mom, who i think ive proven 
> is a real smart lady, always told me that my first instinct was (almost) 
> always right, everything after that was just b.s. and/or 
> rationalization....think about it....or dont....
> **lora**
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sometimes maybe you should just step back and appreciate the fact that you
can go to a party, albeit in the three same spaces...why not send out a
request for promoters to get more creative with the space, and be happy with
what you got? i'm pretty sure there's some south dakota kids on here ( and
maybe they've already replied...i'm toolazy to read ahead this morning) who
would have been really happy to have a space they'd used over and over again
a little while back...i'm not trying to flame you and i'm not on your case,
but seriously, there are more important things to worry about....

and then there's the token ol' diy...if you don't like it, change it, if you
can't, be supportive of those that are trying their hardest to give you a
good time and give them a hand...

if someone says pl*r i'm going to smack them...
pixie



> the last 3
> major parties in Minneapolis have been held in used before (over-used..)
>
> All Mixed Up--> Bethel Ice Arena
> Mental-----------> Roy Wilkins X hall
> Tommorrow never Dies-> St Paul Amory.



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>
> What's going on this weekend in Chicago?
>
> -

This....

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Not me dood!
I'm as geeky as I gotta be!  WOO HOO!
BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOING BOING BOING!

ahhh... that's better.  I hadn't properly established my geekiness for the
day.

=)
Kale/DreamSequence

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PLUR


>From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
>Reply-To: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] oh goddess not again (minneapolis)
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:11:18 -0400
>
>sometimes maybe you should just step back and appreciate the fact that you
>can go to a party, albeit in the three same spaces...why not send out a
>request for promoters to get more creative with the space, and be happy 
>with
>what you got? i'm pretty sure there's some south dakota kids on here ( and
>maybe they've already replied...i'm toolazy to read ahead this morning) who
>would have been really happy to have a space they'd used over and over 
>again
>a little while back...i'm not trying to flame you and i'm not on your case,
>but seriously, there are more important things to worry about....
>
>and then there's the token ol' diy...if you don't like it, change it, if 
>you
>can't, be supportive of those that are trying their hardest to give you a
>good time and give them a hand...
>
>if someone says pl*r i'm going to smack them...
>pixie
>
>
>
> > the last 3
> > major parties in Minneapolis have been held in used before (over-used..)
> >
> > All Mixed Up--> Bethel Ice Arena
> > Mental-----------> Roy Wilkins X hall
> > Tommorrow never Dies-> St Paul Amory.
>
>
>
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> Thank you for you support.

was that a Bartles and James commercial I just heard?




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yeah, these people suck...i bet they're all g-ravers with binkys, and they
were nerds in high school, and they eat their boogers.

honestly, guys...the only thing i see here is bad site design. i'm pretty
sure your momma also told you lora that it wasn't nice to stereotype and
shut out groups of people that you didn't know =)
(you told me so once, so you can't deny it) i have a serious and definite
aversion to ignorance and blatant stupidity, and i know i bring that a lot
to this list...with new people, it'll be no different. some new kids join
every day...the majority of the long-time members on this list (i only
joined last december, so i don't count) have always seemed to respond
intelligently to the intelligent posts, and you all know what happens with
the immature ones....that's basically all i'm trying to say...

the only time i could see that would be a good time to consider not making
it available would be to sites that are obviously commercially-driven
(raveworld.net, etc...heavily plastered with advertisement links...blah blah
blah)

but that's just my own damn opinion, and i'm sticking to it =)

pixie

----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> something about these sites doesn't mesh with my idea about what the
> community should be, and i personally don't want to add the link, but i
>
> ok, chad if you dont want to do it, DONT....my mom, who i think ive proven
> is a real smart lady, always told me that my first instinct was (almost)
> always right, everything after that was just b.s. and/or
> rationalization....think about it....or dont....
> **lora**
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PHILFART@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 9/21/99, 5:41:41 PM, RobertC4me@aol.com writes:
> <<It looks to be one HELL of an event.>>
> 
> Yes and no. No disrespect to the promoters, but not seeing Lenny Dee or any
> other big  hardcore acts kinda pissed me off. When I say big hardcore acts I
> mean outta state/ outta the US talent. I mean, I always thought that Dee Day
> had at least one hard act. Well...maybe there will be an event worthy of
> being a Halloween event.

yes. getcher ass up to de barn fer halloweenz suckaz. it will be a fun
time to have in the mix on halloween.

i hope i get in a fight again!!
BOOO-YAH!!!!

--aRNO
 
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PHILFART@aol.com wrote:

> Yeah, yeah, yeah....
> 
> Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz

ummmm. you fergot da 128k of L1 cache. an 8MB of L2 cash.

> with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
> no respect from me ;)

voodoo 3's some broke-ass shit yo. you wanna juanna dem new matrox
thingys wiffa G400 onit yo sucka bitch yo.
.....and ya fegot about a quantum 4GB solid-state drive too.
 
> Of course, I can't afford anything that luxurious, so I'll be content
> with my AMD K62 300/98mb/8gig/Voodoo2/ATI All-in-Wonder Pro>>

ummmm. don even ask what kina hoopdie shit i'm runnin over here....it's
kina em-bare-assing.

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>i'm pretty
>sure your momma also told you lora that it wasn't nice to stereotype and
>shut out groups of people that you didn't know =)
>(you told me so once, so you can't deny it)

all i was saying is that if he was having serious doubts about this (for 
whatever reason) that maybe he shouldnt do it and that my MOM said that if 
youre having doubts about somthing (anything) right off the bat that maybe 
you shouldnt do it....i think that advice applies anywhere, not just in this 
situation....
i love you pixie*
**lora**

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Dynamic Groove wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:55:27 -0500 (CDT), atomly wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, DarylsD wrote:
> >> www.mp3.com/doormouse
> >
> >This is the greatest news... Ever.
> >
> 
> I went there and it was some pop band called "Doormouse"
> It was NOT _the_ Doormouse, that we all know and love.
> 
>         Joe

BULLSHIT!!! THAT_IS_DOORMOUSE!!!! IT SAYS SO!!!!!!1

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Ouch. Now that's harsh. I could'nt believe that Eric Stoltz was behind all
that latex.

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	Subject:	[mw] I need a mask of the guy from "Mask" for
halloween

	I've been looking for a mask of the guy from the movie "Mask" for
halloween, 
	but I've had no luck. To keep the subject alive, I have written a
follow up 
	article to the "Need a mask" article in the Ian Daily news
(9/19/99).  The 
	article has just hit the news stand and people are barfing all over
the 
	place.  By far the most disgusting issue yet.  Enjoy.
	I'm Ian Hard
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I second that and raise you 2:

PLUR PLUR PLUR

=)
Kale/DreamSequence
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:

> PLUR
> 
> 
> >From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> >
> >if someone says pl*r i'm going to smack them...
> >pixie


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If you're looking for Raver Toys, check out the following:

http://www.ravertoys.com/




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they had to have known that was coming


>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
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>
>I second that and raise you 2:
>
>PLUR PLUR PLUR
>
>=)
>Kale/DreamSequence
>On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
>
> > PLUR
> >
> >
> > >From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> > >
> > >if someone says pl*r i'm going to smack them...
> > >pixie
>
>

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lemme see...where did sean put it....ah here it is!!

PLUR BAT!!! **WHAP** **WHAP** **WHAP**!!!

=D
pixie

> I second that and raise you 2:
> 
> PLUR PLUR PLUR
> 
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http://www.theonion.com/onion3104/mothership.html
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 15:36:54 1999
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From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] oh goddess not again (minneapolis)
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--- DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I second that and raise you 2:
> PLUR PLUR PLUR
> 
> =)
> Kale/DreamSequence
> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
> 
> > PLUR
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> > >
> > >if someone says pl*r i'm going to smack them...
> > >pixie


Dammit!  I wanted to get smacked too!

It's been 2 days since I've checked my mail here, and damn do I have
a lot of it.  Good thing I've got all this time at work to read all
the one-line replies to strings so old I can't remember what anyone's
talking about anymore.  Uh, so is everyone supposed to submit the
specs of their pc or something?  I thought I'd accidentally stumbled
onto the mwcomputergeeks list or something.  'My processor's faster
than YOUR processor'...PLEASE.

So I'm headed up to good ol' Chicago this weekend to partake in All
That Jazz.  This party sounds GREAT- AND it's a great excuse to spend
the weekend in my favorite city in the midwest (because it's the only
city here that doesn't seem like it's in the midwest).  Anyone else
from STL heading up there?  HMMMMM!?!?  Come on- you KNOW you want to
go!  Lookin' forward to meeting some cool Chicago people while I'm
there too.  I should be staying with a friend in Lakeview, but I
can't get ahold of here, so we'll see.  

And for Pixie, here's a little more PLUR- you can never have too
much.  Damn, I love a woman with attitude- reminds me of myself...

spencer
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 15:39:34 1999
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I say to link up.  I think the net is all about an open exchange of
information and ideas whether we may agree or not.  Don't judge, just link.
Whatever they may represent will be judged on it's own merits.  

PJ


-----Original Message-----
From: .chad sponholz. [mailto:chad@hyperreal.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 1:23 AM
To: pay attention.
Subject: [mw] a link request is a link request.


i'm not sure why i need advice on this.

i mean, a link is a link is a link, right?

i was asked to excange web page links with www.scottsdaleravers.com and 
www.zenfestla.com because they've added a link to my page.

should i do it?

am i obligated to now?  
please offer input... i plan on writing them, but i want your input first.

something about these sites doesn't mesh with my idea about what the
community should be, and i personally don't want to add the link, but i
think this is more something you should decide.

however, the sites do have a lot of information that could be read by a
few more people if they had our link.

thanks if you are taking this seriously,
chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 15:42:59 1999
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> And for Pixie, here's a little more PLUR- you can never have too
> much.  Damn, I love a woman with attitude- reminds me of myself...

...bend on over...

pixie [help!! this is pixie from deep within the depths of this evil pixie
you see displayed here!! i'm stuck in a one-line rut!! help!!!]






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>> Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
>
>ummmm. you fergot da 128k of L1 cache. an 8MB of L2 cash.
>
>> with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
>> no respect from me ;)
>
>voodoo 3's some broke-ass shit yo. you wanna juanna dem new matrox
>thingys wiffa G400 onit yo sucka bitch yo.
>.....and ya fegot about a quantum 4GB solid-state drive too.


    huh? dude I can see an argument for the TNT2U, but a G400? c'mon man,
it's got some nice "gee, wiz" features, but it really can't keep up with a
V3 3000 or a TNT2U, read the reviews, look at the benchmark numbers, numbers
don't lie. I'm a hardware JUNKIE, don't argue with me... =] yes, the solid
state drive for the OS, swapfile, and any caches you have, along with any
content that's being served (like Q3) and the data files. a raid 0+1 array
with 8 18.2GB Atlas 10k drives to work on the back of that thing might be
nice, as well as the $13,000 phillips 42" wall-mountable HDTV, with a
soundblast live! gold going to two seperate DENON dolby digital systems (one
for front, one for rear, rear one just acting with two channels and a sub,
front with full 5.1 for movies) with sunfire 1200W subs and a bunch of good
speakers. 8x DVD-RAM drive going to the SB-live! digital output. That $800
chair they sell that's "the most comfortable chair in the world" or a good
loveseat (got a 42" screen at 2000x1125 resolution) in the middle of the
room with a keyboard platform and mouse platform on moveable arm thingys.
all plugged in via 1.1MBit DSL. that's the dream system, and in ten years
that'll suck, I love computers... =]

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 23 16:08:16 1999
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ten years? try 2


>From: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
>Reply-To: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] I'm sorry...
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:04:24 -0500
>
> >> Until you are running an AMD Athlon 65O, overclocked to 1 ghz
> >
> >ummmm. you fergot da 128k of L1 cache. an 8MB of L2 cash.
> >
> >> with a 30 gig hard drive, a gig of ram, and a Voodoo 3 you'll get
> >> no respect from me ;)
> >
> >voodoo 3's some broke-ass shit yo. you wanna juanna dem new matrox
> >thingys wiffa G400 onit yo sucka bitch yo.
> >.....and ya fegot about a quantum 4GB solid-state drive too.
>
>
>     huh? dude I can see an argument for the TNT2U, but a G400? c'mon man,
>it's got some nice "gee, wiz" features, but it really can't keep up with a
>V3 3000 or a TNT2U, read the reviews, look at the benchmark numbers, 
>numbers
>don't lie. I'm a hardware JUNKIE, don't argue with me... =] yes, the solid
>state drive for the OS, swapfile, and any caches you have, along with any
>content that's being served (like Q3) and the data files. a raid 0+1 array
>with 8 18.2GB Atlas 10k drives to work on the back of that thing might be
>nice, as well as the $13,000 phillips 42" wall-mountable HDTV, with a
>soundblast live! gold going to two seperate DENON dolby digital systems 
>(one
>for front, one for rear, rear one just acting with two channels and a sub,
>front with full 5.1 for movies) with sunfire 1200W subs and a bunch of good
>speakers. 8x DVD-RAM drive going to the SB-live! digital output. That $800
>chair they sell that's "the most comfortable chair in the world" or a good
>loveseat (got a 42" screen at 2000x1125 resolution) in the middle of the
>room with a keyboard platform and mouse platform on moveable arm thingys.
>all plugged in via 1.1MBit DSL. that's the dream system, and in ten years
>that'll suck, I love computers... =]
>
>         -- Matt Murphy --
>
>
>
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At 04:44 PM 9/22/99 EDT, Jim SeKoch wrote:
>Dude,
>
>>>Hmmmmmmmm, I apologize if I am not    AVEY enough, or  if you are more 
>>>RAVE than I...
>
>You and Steen are DEFINITELY avey enough!  :)  Unfortunately though, Doris 
>will always be the most avey of all.  :)
>
>Never stand in her way....mwahahahaha.
>

Damn you Doris!!!!!  I'll *never* be as avey as you!!!!!  Curses!!!  Why
does Doris always get to be the aviest??? When's it MY turn My turn!!!
bwaaahahahahahahahah!!!!!!  


peace, love, and bootie rubs,
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> So I'm headed up to good ol' Chicago this weekend to partake in All
> That Jazz.  This party sounds GREAT- AND it's a great excuse to spend
> the weekend in my favorite city in the midwest (because it's the only
> city here that doesn't seem like it's in the midwest).  Anyone else
> from STL heading up there?  HMMMMM!?!?  Come on- you KNOW you want to
> go!

Me and some other kids from StL will be up there soaking up some good
house...also I think Toby (BoogieKnights/KindredGroove) is looking for some
others that are attending, so you might want to contact him if you want to
caravan or something, I don't think we'll be leaving until later on Sat.

I'm glad I'm not the only one in StL that loves Chicago...


> And for Pixie, here's a little more PLUR- you can never have too
> much.  Damn, I love a woman with attitude- reminds me of myself...
>

oooh spencer....watch out for that PLUR bat!!

 *whack* <spencer falls to ground, bleeding>

dammmm, that's gotta hurt!

PLUR PLUR PLUR...holy shit!  *whack*

urrrrrgh....mmmph....pain

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> http://www.theonion.com/onion3104/mothership.html

""The man who came out of the spaceship attempted to shoot me with something
he called a 'Bop Gun,'" lead singer Darius Rucker told reporters. "Somehow I
sensed it would be detrimental to my career as a singer."

Added a visibly distressed Rucker: "He also seemed to imply that if I let my
mind go free, something would happen to my bottom." "

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> http://www.ravertoys.com/

i'm scared of a site that you can order vicks inhalers from as "ravertoys"




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Easily dodging her feeble batting technique (since she's a gurl and
can't bat... ooohoo hooo... god I love it), he then whips out his big ol'
furry body-cuffs, and locks up Pixie niiiice n' tight (easy there
Trunk)...
and proceeds to plur her into unconsciousness.


WOO HOO!!!!!
Kale/DreamSequence

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:

> lemme see...where did sean put it....ah here it is!!
> 
> PLUR BAT!!! **WHAP** **WHAP** **WHAP**!!!
> 
> =D
> pixie
> 
> > I second that and raise you 2:
> > 
> > PLUR PLUR PLUR
> > 
> > =)
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Hi everyone,

Does ANYONE know anything regarding the ticket situation for the party?  
They're STILL not out in the stores.  I've left messages for Jerry inquiring 
about the situation...but no returned calls.

If they don't intend on putting out presale tickets, they best knock off 
$5.00 from the door cost....otherwise what was the point of having cheaper 
presales that were never out in stores?

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Yes, especially when "Olba" is soooo much better than suck-ass vicks.

And the only reason I use either one is to clear some of the raver funk
out of my nose... damn fake smoke... and dirty ass warehouses...
god I love 'em.

Kale/DreamSequence
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> > http://www.ravertoys.com/
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>Yehaa haa! Say..how's the new single by Plastikman anyway?!

it's fuckin hard and fuckin' good.

er, is that hard and good fuckin'?

i forget.

PORN SHACK.


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All I know is that that DJ is one tall motherfucker. Miss Honey Dijon was
almost as tall as Adam Beyer. I don't know about the track. She played
right after Adam though.

Matt

On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 RaVeR1420@aol.com wrote:

> Is s/he really a man????
> 
> And if you went to Mental in MPLS... was s/he the one who spun the track
> " i like the sound when you...Clap my hands...?"
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> Im just full o' questions.
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**Hi guys....I'm on another list that focuses on Detroit's scene....and
this is the topic of the day.....read it over and let me know what you all
think........Sounds kind of fishy???  Hmmm.....



>hey everyone....
>
>Well i have a couple of things that i would like to share with you 
>all...please...
>
>First for those who don't want big parties or hip hop shows... your the 
>reason why i am throwing a unadverstised partie the same night at 
>betterdays... with all electronica dj's (nigel richards; heather heart; 
>johnny fiasco; derrick thompson and others)... for only $15!!!
>
>Second, regarding COBO ARENA for the main show.... if anyone one of you go
to 
>record time look on the wall of flyers that they have... half of them were 
>thrown in COBO ARENA in the late 80's and early to mid 90's... and they only 
>where able to go 4 am ... i now have made it possible to take COBO to 7 or 8 
>am... be happy about that... that has never been possible!!!  and Detroit 
>loved Ritchie Hawtin's parties back in the day...right?  i hear about them 
>all the time...well to let you all know...Ritchie was the last person to 
>throw a party at COBO back in '94!!!  and it kicked ass...  as far as the 
>police shutting down COBO hall... it is owned by the Government and ran by a 
>company owned by Mike Illitch... do you think that they would shut down 
>themselves or Mike Illitch? no they wouldn't!!!  
>
>Now i know you all love to partie as do i... and i know that you are all
sick 
>of the way that the Government and that Socity looks down on our parties... 
>come on they literally beat us up for it!!!  so wouldn't you want to be a 
>part of something that is allowed to throw one of these parties right inside 
>of one of their (governments' and socitys') prized possessions?  what if you 
>could rave at the mayor's mansion or governor's capitol building or even the 
>Whitehouse... wouldn't you?  i would because it gives us a chance to do what 
>we love right on their own turf...and they can't do a thing about...but 
>except it!!!  i can tell you i am sick and tired of watching gang squad beat 
>us up... and i am sick of watching the media laugh at us!!!  now it is time 
>to FIGHT BACK!!!!  i will not stand by and let Socity ruin us or put us 
>down... for what? having fun?  do you know why that hate raves so much?  is 
>it because we are the only culture where wealth, race, religion, sex, creed, 
>age or class does not matter?... they can't do that... but we do it on a 
>daily basis...be proud and fight back!!!
>
>to let you all know something... i am probaly throwing my millenium party in 
>TIGER STADIUM with a heated field.... again in one of their most prized 
>possessions and we will be there raving all night long...why....because we 
>can!!!  why do we have to go to the shittest buildings in OUR city and mind 
>our own business and then still get harrassed... when we can go to the most 
>beautiful buildings in the city and not get harrassed?  I FOR ONE AM PROUD
TO 
>BE A PARTIEKID!!!  and i for one believe i have the right to party any where 
>i please...and i for one am not going to let the gang squad or the news or 
>the government tell me no!!!  i am a citizen of this state and country and i 
>am going to do my all to throw my parties for all of us anywhere and 
>everywhere!!!  you know my mom asked me the other day after COBO ARENA and 
>TIGER STADIUM where is next? do you know what my answer was.... COMERICA 
>PARK...the new Tiger Stadium and the new Lions Stadium.... i want both... at 
>the same time....  i feel as though our scene deserves the best!!! not the 
>worst!!!  so if the city wants to spend hundreds of millions of dollars 
>building these fine ass places... then guess what WE ARE GOING TO RAVE IN 
>STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>PLUR
>
>Carl                            "Entertaining Life... One World at a Time!!!"
>One World Productions ~ 248..988..0148
>
>
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>
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
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Wayne State University
1276 Faculty/Administration Building
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:51:25 -0500, Superstar DJ Sofa King wrote:

>Dynamic Groove wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:55:27 -0500 (CDT), atomly wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, DarylsD wrote:
>> >> www.mp3.com/doormouse
>> >
>> >This is the greatest news... Ever.
>> >
>> 
>> I went there and it was some pop band called "Doormouse"
>> It was NOT _the_ Doormouse, that we all know and love.
>> 
>>         Joe
>
>BULLSHIT!!! THAT_IS_DOORMOUSE!!!! IT SAYS SO!!!!!!1
>


I was at Matt Massive's office and I went to www.mp3.com/doormouse
just like it said in the original message and I got some pop band
called "Doormouse".  It listed the names of the artists and neither
one was "Dan Martin" (Doormouse's real name for those who don't know).

Don't ask me...but I know what I saw.

	Joe


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Steen et al,

With regards to the message from Carl,

First off....I'm still faint from the spelling errors...and 
secondly....still being somewhat "new" to Detroit's party scene....I can't 
say that One World has the best batting average lately nor do they impress 
me enough to return to any of their parties.  Welcome to My House was bad 
from what I was told....and the vibe at the free party last week at one 
X/better days was not good at all.  Very political and very anti-rave in my 
opinion.  *shrug*

Regarding the upcoming parties he was dropping....if he can pull it 
off...all the more power to him.  But...in my experiences with Pittsburgh 
and New York City...the promoters that bark the loudest tend to be the ones 
that fall through all the time and really don't seem to care much about 
anything except the almighty dollar.

I forget who said it earlier on this list but....show me a broke promoter 
and I'll show you an honest man.

Rave on...

Bop

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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 02:08:48 -0500, kent christopher wrote:

>while i really like design of that mixer, the faders are cheapo, and won't
>last too long.

I have a friend who has the vestax pmc-17a and as far as I know
he hasn't had any trouble with it.  Personally, I don't like the set up
too much.  It's alright, but difficult to use in the dark (dark text, on
a dark background, and confusing layout).  


>if you want nice faders that will last, drop another $100
>bucks and look at the Numark mixers. if you want a 4 channel mixer, i've
>had the Numark 1820x for a year and half, bought for just over $400 at Full
>Compass, and very pleased with how it's held up.

NO, NO, NO !   I also have a Numark 1820x and my first fader went within
one week.  The second lasted a month.  The third has finally lasted for over
a year, but I suspect it's only because I hardly use that mixer anymore.
It's a cool mixer, with good features - but the crossfader isn't one of them !
Numark has smooth faders, but they don't last long - at least in the older
models. 

>they're new 2 channel mixer looks and feels a lot like the high end 
>($700 range) Vestax mixers. price: $389 at audio depot (i was lookin' at it today).

These do seem a lot better.


Personally, I recommend Pioneer and Rane.

I have never had problems with my Pioneer and all of the
people I know that has them loves them (I will admit that
early in their production they had some minor problems).
Audio Depot has one that they rent out and it gets beat
to hell - and it still works great.  There is also a club that
I used to work at that has one.  It has had people ash 
on it, gotten spilled on, and much other abuse and it 
still works fine (but I don't recommend abuse, naturally).

Everyone I know that has a Rane mixer has nothing but
good things to say about them.  Nice features, superb
sound quality and virtually indestructible.

Also, Behringer has a new line of mixers out.
I haven't used them, but Behringer has an
excellent reputation in the pro audio community.
They make some of the best studio & live mixing
boards available, as well as other pro audio
processing equipment.  I have a Behringer
compressor and I love it.

The Behringer mixers are very reasonably priced
at Audio Depot in Madison.  The smaller model is
just under $200 and the larger is just over $600.
I even considered trading in my Pioneer for one
of these, but I wasn't willing to give up my effects =)

So, the my final opinion is:

Best:

 1) Pioneer
 2) TIE - Rane & Beheringer

Second best:

 1) Numark

Best for Scratch DJs:

 1) Vestax (or tie for 2nd best, even if you don't scratch)


	Joe




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> >hey everyone....
> >
> >Well i have a couple of things that i would like to share with you
> >all...please...
> >
> >First for those who don't want big parties or hip hop shows... your the
> >reason why i am throwing a unadverstised partie the same night at
> >betterdays... with all electronica dj's (nigel richards; heather heart;
> >johnny fiasco; derrick thompson and others)... for only $15!!!
> >

doesnt sound to *un*advertised to me....lets see, we have a lineup, a 
price....shit why didnt they just email a map to the space.....sheesh!
ok, this is my only one for the day but----GAWD!!!!!
**lora**

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>shit why didnt they just email a map to the space.....

cuz you don't need a map.....it's fucking Cobo Hall.

Even I know where cobo is and i live in Kansas City

and then Tiger Stadium? WTF????

hrmmmm

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those bastards!




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Subject: [mw] Tranceformers


Hi everyone,

Does ANYONE know anything regarding the ticket situation for the party?  
They're STILL not out in the stores.  I've left messages for Jerry inquiring

about the situation...but no returned calls.

If they don't intend on putting out presale tickets, they best knock off 
$5.00 from the door cost....otherwise what was the point of having cheaper 
presales that were never out in stores?

Later,

Bop

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after a little over two years on this list and probably 30-40K messages
later, i've decided i'm very very done with it.

i graduate this december, and then in january i expect to be moving away
from the midwest, away from kansas city, away from lawrence. 

sometimes this list has been informative, primarily it's been silly or
stupid. recently i have no idea what it's been like, but, well, whatever.

but of course, this whole 'rave' thing has been really really useful to
me. i still don't think there is a more tolerant enviornment on this
planet, a better way to discover yourself. it's left *me* free and
empowered.

there was of course a certain progress for me from the innocent kid that i
was to the realist that i am. a lot of that had to do with becoming
involved in promotions. i've promoted or produced six events, and have
been happy with all but forever after, which ended up being an unpleasant
surprise for me that i knew was coming but couldn't do much more than
watch. we lost the original space back in july, and then we became frozen,
didn't communicate and ultimately failed. i apologize for that; and to
those individuals who i seem to have deeply offended somehow. [whatever it
was that i did to make you so very angry, i don't know]

the event that i was the most happy with was PI back in april. except for
the 1.5hour early shutdown, it was the event i was the happiest with. i
didn't ever think that we'd see 1300 kids in kansas city, and since PI
there have been three other 1000+ events in the area. numbers aren't
everything, but they mean you can be rewarded for your efforts and they
definitely provided a level of confidence which is showing in the slightly
insane increase in area events. 

i intend to do one more event before i leave this area, but after that, i
don't forsee ever doing one again. i'll have a bachelor's degree in
english and psychology, and a resume packed full of good shit. there's not
enough money to be made in this area to justify a local reputation as a
'rave promoter'. i may be proud of what i've done, but i don't exist in a
vacuum.

that said, i maintain that drugs are an essential part of this sub-culture
and will continue to be so as long as this sub-culture retains any of its
vitality. the rebellion in taking drugs, staying up all night and dancing,
meeting strangers is an absolute act of freedom and through it i believe
that a lot of people are able to come to terms with themselves which
otherwise would have taken much, much longer.

this is a 2nd childhood for people, but they are informed by a very basic
individualistic urge. no talking about how partykids conform here -- group
membership is part of that individualistic urge. people talk about the
immaturity of the scene -- that's logical. people leave this with a
generally better idea of who they are and what they value then when they
began. it's difficult to avoid the truth about oneself on eight hits of
blotter, after all. all of this began out of gay, black and hispanic club
culture, its roots are in identity formation, and i think that this
pattern is still there. or maybe that's just reflective of my own
experience. if that's just an overly optimistic interpretation of what
actually happens, so be it. i see more than just fucked up kids, i see
creative, hedonistic and irresponsible subculture that will leave an
indelible imprint on the art, literature and music of our generation. the
cynicism that some of you exude confuses me -- at times it seems like the
crying of people whose insecurities would[will?] never let them become
anything, at others it seems like the justifiable voice of people who
merely don't understand that criticism without action will never be
listened to. either way, whining never changed anything. 

but anyway, this is more than plenty. but i haven't posted anything in a
while, so i'm excused. i'll be unsubscribing after class. i can of course
be reached at this address, arnold@falcon.cc.ukans.edu

peace
andrew arnold


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well yeah i got this as well... i personally don't like one world. for one 
he is shady, and he said on the flyer that dj melody was gonna be there, and 
she even said she was never booked. so i don't know. i personally don't like 
the production company myself...


Luv ya, talk to you later
Sam

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http://www.lumine.net/engrish/recentdiscoveries.html







Did you say ridicurous?


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  Tickets for Tranceformers are currently available at Spin Cycle in
Lansing, Groovy Train in Ferndale, and Yellow Durbin in Royal Oak.  Jerry
is dropping them off at Record Time today.  Prices at the door will be the
same.

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Jim SeKoch wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> Does ANYONE know anything regarding the ticket situation for the party?  
> They're STILL not out in the stores.  I've left messages for Jerry inquiring 
> about the situation...but no returned calls.
> 
> If they don't intend on putting out presale tickets, they best knock off 
> $5.00 from the door cost....otherwise what was the point of having cheaper 
> presales that were never out in stores?
> 
> Later,
> 
> Bop
> 
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-----Original Message-----
>while i really like design of that mixer, the faders are cheapo, and won't
>last too long.
--------------------------

*my* experiences:

.. yup, i had this problem .. might have been a lemon, though, but i got
mine from pro-sound in the mail on a friday to use that night at the club ..
got it plugged in and hooked up .. the x-fader did not work, one of the
first channel fader did not work, and the second was loose .. the third one
seemed fine, but like the man said, el cheapo .. you can buy knob faders to
replace the sliders though - yay? .. the specs, features (the fx switches,
mic ins, 3 channels, etc), and the price are dope, and that's why i had got
it .. too bad they didn't slap one of those vestax optical x-faders in there
too (techno djs like a solid x-fade to, ya know) .. anyways, sent the the
thing back, and a week later, they were like, "oh, they're out of stock, we
won't have more for a month or so, if that because of how unreliable vestax
is"!! - so i got a platinum series gemini 646 and am *very* happy with it

[[the Gemini 646:  a very solid mixer .. excellent cue selection, strong
pre-amp (nice clean sound), and a butter cross fader (as far as techno
mixers go) .. i've had mine for about a year or so .. only had to replace
the x-fader once ($30), which had burnt out after a party where a
not-to-x-fader-friendly dj was using it .. as an added bonus for sound
systems, it's got both rca and xlr main outs! :) .. got mine from pro-sound
for US$225 .. couple annoying things though, no fx in/out, and i'm not so
sure if you can have 3 channels in the mix at once .. it's got 4 channels, 3
having phono, but i haven't tried playing 3 at once]]


--------------------------
he hasn't had any trouble with it.  Personally, I don't like the set up
too much.  It's alright, but difficult to use in the dark (dark text, on
a dark background, and confusing layout).
--------------------------

.. i very much agree here .. hey vestax, is it really that hard to color
code the damn knobs?? :D .. anyone that has this mixer, i'd suggest getting
some fingernail polish or something and color code the tops of the knobs ..
pan one color, your eqs another, and the trim another .. i kept reaching for
the pan thinking it was the bass - doh! :)

see ya!

art

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we can throw a party at my place.... a whole dozzen or so people that we 
would be able to cram in- and "Quiet Hours" after midnight....  but if you 
don't mind those conditions...  =)

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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:
+the only time i could see that would be a good time to consider not making
+it available would be to sites that are obviously commercially-driven
+(raveworld.net, etc...heavily plastered with advertisement links...blah blah
+blah)

well, these sites have advertisements....

also, the way they asked for the link was a bit wierd.  like i told you
privately, they didn't even ask me personally.  they created a mailing
list for all the links they added and basically said "we added a link to
your site, so add a link to ours."

this isn't about getting more people, it's not about whether i like these
people or not, i don't even know them.

that said...

this is about what you want mw raves to be.  the site right now accounts
for links to subskribers and former subskribers.  i can add links all day
for this group of people because they make up what mw-raves IS and WAS.

the non-members, though, i think we need to give a bit more thought to
whether we add a link or not.  our site is a statement of who we are...as
a collective.  links, imho, shoud be assigned to sites if and only if you
believe strongly in what the other person is saying.   IN FACT, i think
it's actually kind of rude to ask someone you don't know for a link on
their site.  if you believe in what someone's doing, you could add a link
to their site, write them to tell them you did so, and give them the
opportunity to visit your site...  if your site rocks, the link should
take care of itself.

a link exchange has the opportunity to be an intensely personal exchange
of ideas, but the way these people went about it did not provide for that
too well.

but, like i said, i'll write them...find out why they added a link to us.
find out why, really, they would like us to link to them.

maybe we'll have some new scottsdale raver friends.

peace,
chad




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just so you know i linked your site =)

actually your site has been linked for quite some time, so link mine damn 
you!!!!!!!!!

=)  just kidding

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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Arthur Schryburt wrote:

> [[the Gemini 646:  a very solid mixer .. excellent cue selection, strong
> pre-amp (nice clean sound), and a butter cross fader (as far as techno
> mixers go) .. i've had mine for about a year or so .. only had to replace
> the x-fader once ($30), which had burnt out after a party where a
> not-to-x-fader-friendly dj was using it .. as an added bonus for sound
> systems, it's got both rca and xlr main outs! :) .. got mine from pro-sound
> for US$225 .. couple annoying things though, no fx in/out, and i'm not so
> sure if you can have 3 channels in the mix at once .. it's got 4 channels, 3
> having phono, but i haven't tried playing 3 at once]]

agreed.  i've had a previously used 626 for a year now and the x-fader, by
all rights, should have died by now.  It hasn't.  But Geminis produce an
annoying crackle that is very hard to ignore.  Twiddling the eq's or
lining out sounds like PBS After Dark on a non-banging record.  Plus
there's no send/return.  I'm thinking when it comes time to buy a new
mixer, I'll go for a Pioneer 500.  maybe a Roland 1000.  anybody want to
post a critique of the Roland?

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Here's a little something for all you potheads out there...  The High Times 
Cannabis Cup 1999.  Kinda self explanatory, really,  but here's the website- 
  http://cup.420tours.com/    I don't know how to do that cool link thingy 
(sorry, I'm computer illiterate)   so you'll have to type it in yourself.  
Have fun!!




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Does anyone know where this is going to be yet? I heard it was going to be
at the Omega convention center. If anyone has info, I'd be grateful for the
hook-up.

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> >> On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:55:27 -0500 (CDT), atomly wrote:
> >> I went there and it was some pop band called "Doormouse"
> >> It was NOT _the_ Doormouse, that we all know and love.
> >>         Joe

---
> >BULLSHIT!!! THAT_IS_DOORMOUSE!!!! IT SAYS SO!!!!!!1
> >
----
> I was at Matt Massive's office and I went to www.mp3.com/doormouse
> just like it said in the original message and I got some pop band
> called "Doormouse".  It listed the names of the artists and neither
> one was "Dan Martin" (Doormouse's real name for those who don't know).
> 
> Don't ask me...but I know what I saw.
> 
> 	Joe
----
Look, just cuz Doormouse changed his track format and it sounds like a pop
band to you.... there's no reason to get defensive about us KNOWING it's
really the one and only Doormouse.  I mean, jees, if the mp3 _says_ it's
Doormouse, then it _has_ to be.  Don't get all up-at-arms just cuz we
don't care what it sounds like, it really IS hardcore you're hearing!

heh heh hehhhh

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Unadvertised party....government owned building....tiger stadium....one 
world productions (COPS!)....rave???  This doesn't exactly fit together.  
Just a thought.

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not to mention he used the word "electronica."

=j

> Unadvertised party....government owned building....tiger stadium....one 
> world productions (COPS!)....rave???  This doesn't exactly fit together.  
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An interesting article on the Columbine massacre:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/23/columbine/index.html

Just posting it here cause there was so much discussion here about it
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Yeah, no kidding... Mischa is a 80 yr old crab trapped in a 21 yr old body!
;)

hehe!

Rob
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bah.  fuck all this with a big stick.

i'd have a lot more to say about this but i'm about to take a drive to see
my daddy for his bday (everybody say "happy birthday doris's daddy!") so
here's the abbreviated version of what would have been quite a rant:

first of all, isn't that the guy who threw welcome to my house, a party i
did not attend, but spoke up about nonetheless?  he promised the largest
lightshow, venue, soundsystem, visuals, bla bla bla detroit had ever seen 
or would ever see again, along with a whole slew of equally bold
statements.  however he had skimped on the lineup (which, when i pointed
that out to him via email, he couldn't be bothered to reply to), which
made me question his credibility as a promoter in the first place.
now i see him throwing another party, shooting even higher than before,
but i can't help feeling like he's trying to out-do everybody around here
for the sake of being on top, instead of trying to do something positive
for the "scene" or whatever as a whole, or for the joy of hosting a
quality event.

and again, no mention of a never-before-seen world-class blow-your-mind
lineup.  shouldn't *that* be how you justify being the best?  instead,  he
just talks about venues and secure spaces, and what's presented in them
seems to be taking a back seat.

anyway...

[rant about COBO and the oldskool days and richie]

> >police shutting down COBO hall... it is owned by the Government and ran by a 
> >company owned by Mike Illitch... do you think that they would shut down 
> >themselves or Mike Illitch? no they wouldn't!!!  

cute.  last time it was "we're gonna broadcast this rave on the radio, do
you really think a rave broadcast on the radio is gonna get shut down?"
well, was it?  i do think so.

> >of one of their (governments' and socitys') prized possessions?  what if you 
> >could rave at the mayor's mansion or governor's capitol building or even the 
> >Whitehouse... wouldn't you?

uhm, no?  those aren't appropriate party venues.  get real.  i wanna party
in a place where i can get down and have a good time, not somewhere where
i have to be scared i'll break that prized painting or george washington's
vase.

> >us up... and i am sick of watching the media laugh at us!!! 

but you've got to admit, we do look rather ridiculous....  *i* laugh at
us.

> now it is time 
> >to FIGHT BACK!!!! 

fight back huh?  and the P in PLUR stands for........

> i will not stand by and let Socity ruin us or put us 
> >down... for what? having fun?

engaging in deviant behavior involving illicit substances?  cause you
can't tell me that you're *not* gonna let that dealer into your party to
improve the vibe.

>  do you know why that hate raves so much?  is 
> >it because we are the only culture where wealth, race, religion, sex, creed, 
> >age or class does not matter?...

oh please, come the fuck on.  ravers are just as judgmental, prejudiced,
and politically incorrect as any other member of society.  i know of
*plenty* of people who enjoy electronic music, but at the same time
exhibit racist, sexist, or just plain ignorant behavior.  don't put ravers
in a box labelled "open-minded" because we're just as diverse as the rest
of society and have just as little in common w/ each other as we do w/
anyone else out there.

> >daily basis...be proud and fight back!!!

yeah!  PLUR!

> >
> >to let you all know something... i am probaly throwing my millenium party in 
> >TIGER STADIUM with a heated field....

it won't be heated.  y2k's gonna fuck you up buddy...  =P

> >PARK...the new Tiger Stadium and the new Lions Stadium.... i want both... at 
> >the same time.... 

you must have a *really* small dick.


yeah anyway now i'm late for dinner w/ my dad.
rave on.
**doris**

ps:  btw steen, NO you can't be the aviest.  you'll have to prove that
you're more rave than i (which is virtually impossible), or beat me in the
spelling bee.  otherwise you'll have to fight w/ derek over 2nd place. 


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Joe;

I realize that you just want answers to a question that seems so simple to 
you, but if you were a promoter in Mpls it would be very clear.  I actually 
remember what warehouse parties in Mpls were like.  But you're talking about 
a time when parties were new and owners of warehouses didn't know what 
'raves' were.  I helped throw All Mixed Up and no one in our organization 
bitched more about the space than I did.  And I know exactly how much time I 
sat on the phone tring to get a warehouse instead, or driving around the 
Metro Area looking for a replacement space.  Most times warehouse owners 
hung up on us before we could even explain exactly what we wanted to do.  
This comes from old promoters who actually broke into empty warehouses to 
use them for parties and from police who put the word our about what younger 
kids wanted for renting spaces and acording to them 'the real intentions 
behind it'.
Parties cost a hell of alot more than they ever have and as a promoter I 
want to ensure that the people who pay their hard earned cash to come to my 
event don't have to go home early because the party got busted. And I have 
to be sure that when I book a space that the agreement won't be backed out 
on at the last minute.  I can't afford to lose money because I didn't have a 
space to throw my event.  All the money I have ever put into any party I 
have thrown has come from my own pocket, which comes from my very serious 40 
hours a week at a hospital.  We don't have financial backers to help out 
with costs. There has been a promotion company in this city that has had 
flyers out more than once for parties and haven't even booked one space 
prior to days beforehand.  And scurried around at the last minute, risking 
disappointing many people because they didn't have a sense of 
responsiblitiy.  Why are you getting down on promoters who have are tring to 
do things that they believe in, we realize things aren't perfect, but we 
try.  I have never said any event I have been part of was without flaw.  But 
each one is a learning expereince that will help me next time.
I have thrown smaller parties in warehouse spaces, houses, and private land. 
  I have stressed out for months over parties tring to bring music and fun 
to people some of which I don't even know. I have lost money and I have made 
money, but money has never been my motivation to throw a party.  But if 
finding a warehouse is really what you want, I suggest you try to find one.  
Throw a party that you would enjoy if you aren't enjoying the ones you're 
going to.  People who know me know what I'm all about.  And the love and 
passion I have for the music and the people I meet should be the reason you 
come to the events I help throw regardless where the space it is thrown in.  
I know pretty much ever promoter in this city and I can tell you that MPLS 
is  so fucking lucky to have people who care so much about their scene, and 
want to make it better.  The percentage of good to bad is unbelievalble.  I 
may not agree with how some of them go about their business, but all of them 
care about what they do.  And if the fact that you're not partying in a 
warehouse is one of the biggest complaint you've got, in my eyes I guess 
that's not so bad. This is just how I feel and I don't speak for anyone 
else.
MPLS has a lot of hope...look around
Rachel


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>Reply-To: RaVeR1420@aol.com
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] oh goddess not again (minneapolis)
>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:41:42 EDT
>
>well i found this on the raveteam website... so its not like im devulging
>some private information. Well Tommorrow Never Dies on October 9th will 
>held
>in the Saint Paul Armory... Am i the only one seeing a pattern? the last 3
>major parties in Minneapolis have been held in used before (over-used..)
>
>All Mixed Up--> Bethel Ice Arena
>Mental-----------> Roy Wilkins X hall
>Tommorrow never Dies-> St Paul Amory.
>
>yes yes an All night venue is hard to find... but THAT hard????? i mean yes
>the trend has been towards ice arenas... i would like to see one that hasnt
>been used before.. much more interesting than the ARMORY? i mean Better
>Living Through Tricknology was a great set up...  But 4 times in the 
>Armory?
>3 (or 4) in Bethel, and 3+ in the X hall. At least allied substructure has 
>a
>lovely idea in bringing back "The kick-ass medium sized warehouse partie" 
>And
>'Right To Dance' coming up from Soul Theology and Underground Revival does
>look promising for a new venue.... So Minneapolis does have some hope. Oh
>well this post was just one big opinion.
>
>-=Dont ask me.... Im just a kid=-
>joe
>
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>> >to let you all know something... i am probaly throwing my millenium
party in
>> >TIGER STADIUM with a heated field....
>
>it won't be heated.  y2k's gonna fuck you up buddy...  =P


and before the stupid y2k bug argument starts again, think rationally....at
a time that is going to be crazy enough, do you think a city would waste
money on unneccesary heating expenses? unless, of course, it wsa for their
own party?

not getting into this argument, just pointing out the joys of common sense
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>>We put a warning out last week about the green triangles going around
>>containing high doses of DXM, the nasty chemical in Robotusin cough
<snip>

I wanted to add that the triangles pills are bad news in general, not
just the green ones.  A friend of mine in Baltimore ate 3 green
triangles, and was hospitalized.  These were green, and were actually
in the shape of a triangle.  However, I made the mistake of eating a
white triangle at ID, and it was not pleasant; these pills were
crumbly, disk-shaped (like a normal pill), and have the outline of a
triangle infused on them.  I met 2 or 3 kids at the party who had
eaten 'em, too, and they are really bad news.  My experience made me
think that it wasn't just DXM in the pills, though, since I felt like
shit for a while, and had to lie down, but then later was up in it and
dancing my ass off... then I'd start to feel bogged-down again.  Plus,
the visuals were different than DXM... much more vibrant and static,
as opposed to the rushing visual motion characteristic of DXM-induced
closed-eye visuals.  For the record, it was my understanding that the
kid who ate 3 discovered at the hospital that they contained
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Coming to Kansas City on December 3, 1999 an evening of pure tag team 
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All night long on 4 turntables and 2 mixers

Your MAIN EVENTS for the evening will be...

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:18:55 -0400
From: Christine Abuel <cabuel@sun.science.wayne.edu>

>**Hi guys....I'm on another list that focuses on Detroit's scene....and
>this is the topic of the day.....read it over and let me know what you
>all think........Sounds kind of fishy???  Hmmm.....

i'm going to comment on this since it really bothered me...

why the fuck would you want to throw a party at tiger stadium???  it's a
really nice field with tons of history to it.  the LAST thing i'd ever
want to see there is a party where it could get trashed with flyers and
cigarette butts.

carl from one world needs get a fucking clue.  you won't see me at any of
his parties, that's for damn sure.

that and he needs to learn some basic writing skills.  jesus... too many
to go into detail...

mind you that my bias against One world isn't personal because of any kind
of conflict, it's because they're a shady as hell, overhyped organization
that looks like they're trying too hard to "fix things".  and at the same
time, they deceive the kids who go to their parties by telling them it's
"free before midnight", $15 after... and then proceed to hold up the line
until midnight and then ask for $20!

if you want sad--one world is doing exactly what they said they wouldn't
do, and that's make this town an even shittier place to party in.

that's all.

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Hey,

Been waiting for your call......  I got home at 3:30 today.  If you get this 
message tonight before midnight, you can call me.  If not, email me with the 
details of where and when to pick up your friend, and I'll see to it that he 
gets to Cleveland!!  I'm going to check my email around 12:30pm tomorrow, 
and then I'll check it again when I get done with classes around 5:30. If 
you call me, you can also leave a voice mail and I'll get back to you.  I 
just don't want your friend to be stranded!!




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yeah...no kidding the triangles are bad news...i havent had any as of
recently but ever since i could remember, they were bad news...i had some
of them back a year and a half or so ago and i was feeling rather
horrid...turns out they were cut with dust...yucky...

so just be careful...really careful...

and don't eat the brown acid man....
lauryn

ps...this was a public service announcement brought to you by the resident
bitch from hell...=) all proceeds (6 packs of guinness, firstborn
children, checks, money orders, small farm animals...wait ixnay the small
farm animals..., cash, mixtapes, and porn videos) should be sent to the
following address...<giggle>

lauryn goller
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man...i need to lay off the crack...heheh
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In a message dated 9/23/1999 9:09:52 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
lgoller@indiana.edu writes:

<< ps...this was a public service announcement brought to you by the resident
 bitch from hell...=) all proceeds (6 packs of guinness, firstborn
 children, checks, money orders, small farm animals...wait ixnay the small
 farm animals..., cash, mixtapes, and porn videos) should be sent to the
 following address...<giggle>
  >>

well you were all for the hedgehog the other night....

hmmmmm you need to lay off the crack
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Okay, heres the deal..

This individual has lost the whole point.. I personally like the clandestine
nature of raves.. As a matter of fact, I despise the name "rave" altogether,
since its such a catchy point word for the media and other dumbasses..
I like "meeting".
Well, I was in military intel, so I guess im a bit partial..

I also believe that if every person like this would keep it low key and not
try to raise the bar high enough that everyone can see,  the scene would be
better off..

Why do the cops beat you down? Prlly cuz your attitude comes off the same
way with them as it does with us. You are ALWAYS touchable, and ANY party
can be broken up. And, yes, the cops WILL put 2000 ppl in jail in a night...
There are no guarantees.

Some of you though are being far too judgemental OTOH..
I mean, the person *might* be nice in general. So, they had or have a shady
event.. So, quit being a bunch of condescending assholes and just dont go..
Is it that freakin hard? I mean, are you that brainwashed that you cant
boycott the event? Or, do you feel you MUST go or you wont feel "connected"?

I just dont understand the logic of blatantly bashing someone.. U all know
how to deal with it... The way you DONT deal with it is by bitching about
them and showing up to their event anyway..

I still wonder if there isnt some detriot cop or atf agent lookin at this
list and watching you brag.. They will prolly shut it down just despite you
and your big words.

Alot of the stuff one world said was still feasible, so i cant fault them
completely.. Now, throwing lame events with the lineup missing is another
matter altogether..

Rob
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> Unadvertised party....government owned building....tiger stadium....one
> world productions (COPS!)....rave???  This doesn't exactly fit together.
> Just a thought.
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 03:28:10 1999
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the blue ones rock...

oh wow, did i just say that? i mean...drugs r bad, m'kay?

and always remember, the experience is selective and often fleeting...things
change too quickly when there's no regulation and too many greedy hands down
the line...

please use common sense, responsibility, and the buddy system





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over the summer I had some green triangles and felt
none of the effects that go along with DXM, but with
this warning i'm stayin away from them.  Has anyone
ever had any problems with Green R/N's  my friend and
I took two at Planet Bass and people were disapearing.
 Frankie Bones literaly disapeared and reappeared
right infront of me  where my friend had groups of 50
people disapear and reapear. Shit was fucked up.
 


--- Oldsklo@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/23/1999 9:09:52 PM US Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> lgoller@indiana.edu writes:
> 
> << ps...this was a public service announcement
> brought to you by the resident
>  bitch from hell...=) all proceeds (6 packs of
> guinness, firstborn
>  children, checks, money orders, small farm
> animals...wait ixnay the small
>  farm animals..., cash, mixtapes, and porn videos)
> should be sent to the
>  following address...<giggle>
>   >>
> 
> well you were all for the hedgehog the other
> night....
> 
> hmmmmm you need to lay off the crack
> shawne
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Dynamic Groove wrote:

> I was at Matt Massive's office and I went to www.mp3.com/doormouse
> just like it said in the original message and I got some pop band
> called "Doormouse".  It listed the names of the artists and neither
> one was "Dan Martin" (Doormouse's real name for those who don't know).
> 
> Don't ask me...but I know what I saw.
> 
>         Joe

GODAMMIT JOE!!!!!! I'M_TELLING_YOU THAT_FUCKING_IS_DOORMOUSE!!! I SANG
THE BACKUP VOCALS ON "Sea Of Cortez"!!!!!!!!

I WAS_THERE_WHEN THE SHIT WENT_DOWN_MAN!!!!!

....AND HIS REAL NAME ISN'T "Dan Martin", IT'S 
"Carl 'bam bam' Yershinowski"

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

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ME AND A FRIEND TOOK 4 EACH GREEN TRIANGLES AND WE WERE
FFFFFIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEE.

Matt

P.S. It feels so good to be touched.

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, BRES wrote:

> 
> over the summer I had some green triangles and felt
> none of the effects that go along with DXM, but with
> this warning i'm stayin away from them.  Has anyone
> ever had any problems with Green R/N's  my friend and
> I took two at Planet Bass and people were disapearing.
>  Frankie Bones literaly disapeared and reappeared
> right infront of me  where my friend had groups of 50
> people disapear and reapear. Shit was fucked up.
>  
> 
> 
> --- Oldsklo@aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 9/23/1999 9:09:52 PM US Eastern
> > Standard Time, 
> > lgoller@indiana.edu writes:
> > 
> > << ps...this was a public service announcement
> > brought to you by the resident
> >  bitch from hell...=) all proceeds (6 packs of
> > guinness, firstborn
> >  children, checks, money orders, small farm
> > animals...wait ixnay the small
> >  farm animals..., cash, mixtapes, and porn videos)
> > should be sent to the
> >  following address...<giggle>
> >   >>
> > 
> > well you were all for the hedgehog the other
> > night....
> > 
> > hmmmmm you need to lay off the crack
> > shawne
> > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 05:00:07 1999
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since we are on this topic, and i didn't bother to ask....
chad, is it ok if i linked to the mw-raves site?
check out my site and let me know....
all opinions, criticisms are welcome....
thanks.
oh, here's the link...
 http://members.xoom.com/gasxfof/

PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:

> >i'm pretty
> >sure your momma also told you lora that it wasn't nice to stereotype and
> >shut out groups of people that you didn't know =)
> >(you told me so once, so you can't deny it)
>
> all i was saying is that if he was having serious doubts about this (for
> whatever reason) that maybe he shouldnt do it and that my MOM said that if
> youre having doubts about somthing (anything) right off the bat that maybe
> you shouldnt do it....i think that advice applies anywhere, not just in this
> situation....
> i love you pixie*
> **lora**
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 05:39:45 1999
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You know what...

I'm so sick of all this Columbine talk.  Being from Denver and about 20 
minutes or so from the school, it's a very sensitive issue.  For my sake and 
for the sake of those that wish to put this horrible tragedy behind them, I 
plead for you to not post anything more on the subject.

Thank you for understanding.

Remember...

To see... one must first be blinded.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 05:49:03 1999
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I wrote a hardcore song about Columbine to rasie some money. For me.  It 
goes:
Daddy has nice rifles
Daddy has nice rifles
I'm bringin' one to school today for show and tell
1234
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
4600 Chippewa PMB 161
St. louis, Mo.63116
314.994.1284
www.ianhardrecords.com
ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
www.virtualwebtechnology.com
sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com

>From: "Rob Micek" <robmiblind@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Rob Micek" <robmiblind@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Interesting article
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:39:12 EST
>
>You know what...
>
>I'm so sick of all this Columbine talk.  Being from Denver and about 20
>minutes or so from the school, it's a very sensitive issue.  For my sake 
>and
>for the sake of those that wish to put this horrible tragedy behind them, I
>plead for you to not post anything more on the subject.
>
>Thank you for understanding.
>
>Remember...
>
>To see... one must first be blinded.
>
>robmicek@hotmail.com
>
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  Just to clarify... my response asking if someone wanted to set up
 a netmeet, was not intended to be harsh. i didn't mean it HAD to be
 in the opposite room of dj tsar's set.. I meant, anyone want to organize
 it that has done that before.. i could supply some name tags. i got the
 hookups on some free ones from work..  anyone interested?

    peace.

      /shandi


>Yeah, no kidding... Mischa is a 80 yr old crab trapped in a 21 yr old
>body!
>;)
>
>hehe!
>
>Rob
> >
> > >i say we have the netmeet at midnite...in the opposite room that dj
tsar
> > >is spinning.




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 06:16:53 1999
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<< And if the fact that you're not partying in a 
 warehouse is one of the biggest complaint you've got, in my eyes I guess 
 that's not so bad.  >>

I'm not trying to rip on Joe here..  but hey!  Have you ever been to a 
warehouse party other than Dreamsicle?  I like the St. Paul Armory.  It's 
very spacious, clean and actually has two rooms, as compared to two systems 
seperated by a damn tarp!  I'm not sick of it because I've only been to one 
party there, Love 99..  (In my opinion, that was one of the best parties so 
far this year.)  I've also never been to the Bethel Ice Arena.  
Granted, I also get a little bored with the ice arenas, and have definetly 
become a lot choosier with what to go to..  but I'm grateful for what I have. 
 My weekend in SD taught me that once again.  Maybe if you didn't have to go 
to *every single party* that comes up, these spaces would be a lot more new 
and a lot more fun for you.  Just a thought...

Jen (Sixtybus)
--------------------
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"Get on the bus!"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 06:36:03 1999
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I totally agree with you Rob. Between the media and the 'net we have 
exhausted every aspect of Columbine. There is really nothing more to be 
said. Why suffer thru it any more... it is done... we must forget.

Aaron



----Original Message Follows----
From: "Rob Micek" <robmiblind@hotmail.com>
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To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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You know what...

I'm so sick of all this Columbine talk.  Being from Denver and about 20
minutes or so from the school, it's a very sensitive issue.  For my sake and
for the sake of those that wish to put this horrible tragedy behind them, I
plead for you to not post anything more on the subject.

Thank you for understanding.

Remember...

To see... one must first be blinded.

robmicek@hotmail.com

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>I'm so sick of all this Columbine talk.  Being from Denver and about 20 
>minutes or so from the school, it's a very sensitive issue.  For my sake and 
>for the sake of those that wish to put this horrible tragedy behind them, I 
>plead for you to not post anything more on the subject.

no offense to you personally rob, but where does someone from colorado get
off telling the MIDWEST raves list what they can and cannot talk about?

chris

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Wow dude. That was even more tasteless than your signature file is
annoying.

I'm Matt Cock.


On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Ian Hard wrote:

> I wrote a hardcore song about Columbine to rasie some money. For me.  It 
> goes:
> Daddy has nice rifles
> Daddy has nice rifles
> I'm bringin' one to school today for show and tell
> 1234
> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
> I'm Ian Hard
> Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> 4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> St. louis, Mo.63116
> 314.994.1284
> www.ianhardrecords.com
> ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> 
> >From: "Rob Micek" <robmiblind@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: "Rob Micek" <robmiblind@hotmail.com>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Interesting article
> >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:39:12 EST
> >
> >You know what...
> >
> >I'm so sick of all this Columbine talk.  Being from Denver and about 20
> >minutes or so from the school, it's a very sensitive issue.  For my sake 
> >and
> >for the sake of those that wish to put this horrible tragedy behind them, I
> >plead for you to not post anything more on the subject.
> >
> >Thank you for understanding.
> >
> >Remember...
> >
> >To see... one must first be blinded.
> >
> >robmicek@hotmail.com
> >
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Overall, I'm glad that I'm not the biggest cock on mw-raves. Sometimes I
think I'm pretty close, but then I see another one of Chris' posts. He
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http://members.home.net/djgruve  <-- soundstorm pics

click away to the pic section.

for some reason some of the stuff doesnt show up in netscape
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Rob Brzykcy wrote:

> This individual has lost the whole point.. I personally like the clandestine
> nature of raves.. As a matter of fact, I despise the name "rave" altogether,
> since its such a catchy point word for the media and other dumbasses..
> I like "meeting".
> Well, I was in military intel, so I guess im a bit partial..

military intelligence, now there is an oxymoron


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 09:11:31 1999
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Yeah, so check out the header on this one.  That's 5 AM.  Am I up with
the sun this morning?  Fuck no.  I've been up since 7 AM YESTERDAY.
And I've still got about another 2 hours of electrical engineering
homework to do before class at 9... am I complaining?  nope.  Fishing
for sympathy?  nope.  Know why?  Because I'm sitting virtually all
alone in this huge computer lab with a glass ceiling.  Me and 4 of my
comerades in arms are enjoying just about the sickest light show you
could ever dream of, courtesy of Ma' Nature...

And I'm chuckling to myself about just how much of my life is lived
while the rest of the world sleeps...

Rave on.

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-->now, on the other end of the spectrum, anyone i know and trust experiment
-->with salvia divinorum?
-->
-->i think it would be responsible to respond privately to this one...

Now, correct me if I'm wrong here Chad... but I was under the
impression that it was still perfectly legal in the United States.
Anybody know the 411?

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nothingARN = nnothing

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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Griggles wrote:

+-->now, on the other end of the spectrum, anyone i know and trust experiment
+-->with salvia divinorum?
+-->
+-->i think it would be responsible to respond privately to this one...
+
+Now, correct me if I'm wrong here Chad... but I was under the
+impression that it was still perfectly legal in the United States.
+Anybody know the 411?

perfectly legal...sure.  but that could easily change.

legality wasn't what i was referring to, though.

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do any of you have an opinion on or experience with the numark 2002x?

peace
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Yup, I got mine about a month and a half ago.  I really love it.  It has
everything that I was looking for in a mixer; xform buttons (really nice
for jungle cuts), send-loop buttons for each channel (I have an efex
processor that is returned to channel 1), not as big as the vestax or
rane but still has 3 channels, bass mid hi kill switches (if you punch
them all, the sound is gone.. I mean gone gone..good kills).
I also like that it's channel 1 is independent of the fader and can be
brought in cleanly, even during a mix of the other 2.
On the fader, you can only mix 2 and 3.  But, since it is also a scratch
mixer, you can reverse 2 and 3 across the fader.
Oh, and one last nice thing is that I hear very little pop when I use the
phono/line switch to do kills and cuts.

My only complaints:
-While the crossfader is nice and smooth, I know I'm going to have to get
a better one, since it already has a tiny bit of static and a _very_ faint
bleed as you come off the extremes.  Still under warranty, so I'll prolly
just send it in.
-The bass-mid-hi EQ knobs are a little bit close together... not a real
problem, I just wish they were about another 1/4" apart. *shrug*
-No pan knob... Also not too much of a concern, since I have an effex
processor that knocks that problem out for me.


Other than that, I really love this mixer.  From it's nice, tight
construction, overall ergonomics, and clear output quality... right down
to it's really nice color scheme.  I think it will last for a while...
talk to me in a year.  =)

Oh, i got mine from Competition Sound online.  They got it to me within 5
days, and it was about $30 cheaper than anywhere else I could find.  Nice
guys there.

Kale/DreamSequence


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hey I just saw stigmata and was wondering if anyone else saw it??
if so did anyone try to find "the gospel of st.thomas" its supposed to be the
words of christ himself.. yeah i know bible stuff but the Vatican i guess
tried to get it banned and that usually means that it is some cool shit.
so if anyone has some info(i got no net smarts to find stuff) e-mail me back
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I saw it....BAD movie.  First off...complete rip-off of the exorcist, and 
what's even worse is that it's SUPPOSED to take place in Pittsburgh and not 
ONE SCENE of that movie was shot in the burgh!  And that subway 
scene?!?!?!?!?  Ok..there's ONE train in pittsburgh and it's brand new and 
the two stations and tunnels are CLEAN.  (For those who don't know...PGH is 
my old stompin' ground.)

My friend John said that people were actually hissing and yelling throughout 
the movie since NONE of it was in the burgh.  hehehe.

Now...regarding the missing gospels....I do remember learning in my "Bible 
as a Historical Document" literature class that that are many gospels and 
other accounts of both Christ and other prophets from the historical era 
when Christ was alive.  No whether or not there is a gospel of St. 
Thomas...I don't know...but it'd be an interesting "research" topic for next 
week's slacking-off time.  :)

The historical Christ is almost a completely different person from the 
sanctified Christ...yet another agent of faith for the faithful.  :)  I 
remember when the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered how everone was afraid it 
would bring down the modern church....and they didn't.  But I do like how 
STIGMATA forces the faithful to look at how they interpret the word.  Most 
people know that the Catholic Church was a ruling power throughout early, 
medieaval and baroque times throughout all of Europe.  The entire hierarchy 
in the church was born of politics and has nothing to do with anyone's 
relationship to God.  Even the Mass (!) is a celebration of keeping the 
general peasantry uneducated and in fear of God.  (but this is for another 
mailing list).  :)

Please realize that I'm not bashing Catholicism or Christianity.  As a 
priest in another faith, I respect ALL religions.  God manifests to 
different cultures in different ways and it's not my place, nor anyone 
else's, to try and steer anyone from the path they are on.

Now....LET'S GET OUR PARTY ON!  :)

Have a great weekend everyone.  :)

Love,

Bop

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> 
> well you were all for the hedgehog the other night....

well, i am not even going to talk about the time i had to run you to the
emergency room because of those hampsters....=)
> 
> hmmmmm you need to lay off the crack
speak for yourself cleetus...


"if it was up your ass youd know it..."
heheh
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In a message dated 9/24/1999 11:15:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
lgoller@indiana.edu writes:

<< well, i am not even going to talk about the time i had to run you to the
 emergency room because of those hampsters....=)
 > 

well I won't even mention where you managed to get the bill of that 
duck-billed platypus stuck at.......
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 > hmmmmm you need to lay off the crack
 speak for yourself cleetus... >>

how's that seifert??

getting lauryn banned from the petting zoo
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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:23:12 -0500 (CDT), DreamSequence wrote:

>My only complaints:
>-While the crossfader is nice and smooth, I know I'm going to have to get
>a better one, since it already has a tiny bit of static and a _very_ faint
>bleed as you come off the extremes.  Still under warranty, so I'll prolly
>just send it in.


Most companies do NOT include the crossfader in the warranty.
Read it carefully before you send it in, since you might end up
not having a mixer for a month only to have them tell you it isn't 
covered.

	Joe

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>  speak for yourself cleetus... >>
>
> how's that seifert??

dipdum bumblebee...oh wait, it's dead, nevermind =P

fuck a bunch of bandwidth, i'm gonna be gone from now until sunday, and this
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At 06:41 PM 9/23/99 -0400, doris wrote:
>ps:  btw steen, NO you can't be the aviest.  you'll have to prove that
>you're more rave than i (which is virtually impossible), or beat me in the
>spelling bee.  otherwise you'll have to fight w/ derek over 2nd place. 
>
>
>-

Oh beware Doris *and* Derek.....I'll have you know that I was the Spelling
Bee Champion in the 4th, 5th *and* 6th grade......And it's just like riding
a bicycle.....mwahahahahaha......prepare to face your doom....mwahahahahaha...

:P

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psh...whatever

w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r


> Oh beware Doris *and* Derek.....I'll have you know that I was the Spelling
> Bee Champion in the 4th, 5th *and* 6th grade......And it's just like
riding
> a bicycle.....mwahahahahaha......prepare to face your
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 16:53:35 1999
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Sorry ta let you down, but I have a copy of the Gospel of Thomas and it
ain't really "all that."  Basically it's a collection of short sayings &
parables attributed to Jesus.  Some of it's interesting, some not.
Example: Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they
find.  When they find, they will be disturbed.  When they are disturbed,
they will marvel, and will rule over all."
Also, the Vatican never really tried to have it banned.  It just fell
out of use and was forgotton for many years, until a copy was unearthed,
exactly the same thing that's happened to dozens of other gospels.  If
you're interested in this sort of thing, get a copy of "The Complete
Gospels" by Miller/Funk.  Check out the stories of Jesus as a child
opening a can of heavenly whoopass on the locals, or the details of
Mary's gynecological examination.  There's a lot they never taught you
in Sunday school.


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> hey I just saw stigmata and was wondering if anyone else saw it??
> if so did anyone try to find "the gospel of st.thomas" its supposed to
> be the words of christ himself.. yeah i know bible stuff but the 
> Vatican i guess tried to get it banned and that usually means that it 
> is some cool shit.
----
first, it's a hollywood movie...don't take it seriously.
second, does it always rain in pittsburgh? third, why doesn't
she tell the landlord to fix the roof? fourth, how can a hair
dresser afford that nice apartment?(hefty discount for leaking
roof?) fifth, she is NOT 23!! lastly, there are prostitutes in vatican??

at any rate, about the gospel. the gospel of thomas was found somewhere
in egypt (i think) about a hundred or so years ago...it was a collection
of jesus' sayings, but unlike the other gospels in the bible, it wasn't
written in a passionate (biased) way. i don't know what the catholic
church's view on thomas is, but i am pretty sure you won't see it in the
bible anytime soon. many will relate thomas to the Q gospel because Q is
also a collection of jesus' sayings. if you don't know, Q is a "lost" oldest
gospel ever written. it served as a foundation for mark and matthew.
scholars still debate on its existence to this day.

disclaimer: i am not a christian, nor do i believe in it. i just find
this historical stuff interesting...and we discussed this in class the
other semester. 

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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:35:38 -0700 (PDT), Todd Moody wrote:

>I wanted to add that the triangles pills are bad news in general, not
>just the green ones.  A friend of mine in Baltimore ate 3 green
>triangles, and was hospitalized.  


Anyone who eats 3 pills should be hospitalized simply
for being stupid.

If one pill doesn't do the trick, save your money and your
health and don't take any more.  

Here's an example...

Tylonol contains Acetaminophen, which is a great pain
killer and fever reducer.  However, it is also extremely
toxic in large doses - and it's LEGAL.   So, let's say
you have a headache - you take the recomended
dosage of 2 tablets.  An hour later, your headache is
still pounding, so you think, it's legal, it can't hurt me
so you take several more...and you end up really sick
in the hospital (or dead).   Really smart.

So, wouldn't you figure...gee, these pills are ILLEGAL and,
I'm not really sure what's in them.  Aw, what the hell,
I'm gonna take 3 of them.  Then you end up sick in
the hospital.  Go figure you stupid fuck.

When will people learn ?

	Joe
	

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i'm not sure if anyone from subsonik (cincinatti) is on this list, but i
need to speak with jamie (or whoever) as soon as possible.

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>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>To: rachelheule@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [mw] oh goddess not again (minneapolis)
>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:39:23 CDT
>
>and then she makes you sit outside on new years eve until you DIE from cold
>
>j/k racheal  we gonna see you at zodiac?
>
>
>
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Is anyone going to twilight saturday night? I was going to goto 
tranceformers but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled cause 
they have no place to have it at. I wouldnt want to buy a ticket for that 
party if that is true. Ogh well... the other party is cheaper anyways. Do 
you guys think little louie vega will show up for that other party? Cause i 
hear he is real good. some email me back and tell me if tranceformers is 
bunk or not please. i might just goto the other party anyways cause its 
cheaper. Sam.

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----- Original Message -----
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> Rob Brzykcy wrote:
>
> > This individual has lost the whole point.. I personally like the
clandestine
> > nature of raves.. As a matter of fact, I despise the name "rave"
altogether,
> > since its such a catchy point word for the media and other dumbasses..
> > I like "meeting".
> > Well, I was in military intel, so I guess im a bit partial..
>
> military intelligence, now there is an oxymoron

Yes, it is.. Not to say that intelligent ppl arent IN military intel.. they
just dont get to call the shots! ;)

Rob

U know the really stupid ppl in military intel cuz the are the last ones to
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Tonight in Chicago
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>>but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled cause
they have no place to have it at.

WHAT?  Who's everyone?  That's the first time I heard that....who did you 
hear it from??  Tell us their name(s)...not just "some friends".

It's not cool if that rumor's being spread around.

The infoline message hasn't changed....I hate this bullshit.  I also heard 
that the Twilight folks are leaving threatening messages for Jerry on the 
infoline machine.....unbelievably pathetic.

>>Cause i hear he is real good.

Little Louis is in a league of his own behind the decks...he works 3 tables 
like NOBODY's business.  :)  Seeing as how he's playing 6 hours by 
himself...you'll be in for such a great ride!  hehehe....  If I didn't love 
trance so much...I'd be at Twilight in a heartbeat.

So Sam....as best as I can tell you...Tranceformers is not cancelled.  They 
had trouble getting tickets back from being printed...but that doesn't mean 
the party's bunk.  I left another message for Jerry to let him know that 
word's on the street that the party's been cancelled.

Regardless...have a good weekend.

Bop

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> Yes, it is.. Not to say that intelligent ppl arent IN military intel.. they
> just dont get to call the shots! ;)
> 
> Rob
> 
> U know the really stupid ppl in military intel cuz the are the last ones to
> admit it being an oxymoron. hehe

You can spot them most easily by looking for the single gold bar on their
hat.

EEEE HE HE HE HEEEE!

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>Is anyone going to twilight saturday night? I was going to goto
>tranceformers but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled cause
>they have no place to have it at. I wouldnt want to buy a ticket for that
>party if that is true.

I thought tix were on sale already??  Anyone know what the deal is?  Lemma 
know too so I don't blow a wad of money on some funkt up shit.

muchas gracias
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>You can spot them most easily by looking for the single gold bar on 
their
>hat.

fuckin butter bars.......gggrrr

best way to fuck with them is to get a group of ten or more people and 
space each other 6 paces apart and then "march" by them, keeping your 
distance. The clueless butter bar has to salute each and every one of 
them. <sigh>  oohh  the memories

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Sep 24 20:32:20 1999
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ok, ravers in chicago, i'm new to this list, new to the city (moved here from pittsburgh), but not new to the "scene".  i do not know anyone in this city.  i do not know where the cool places are.  if ANYONE would be so kind as to reach out a helping hand, it'd be very appreciated.

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hey everyone...
well, if someone gets the word on tranceformers for sure (cancelled or
not) will they please post it tonight or tomorrow morning?  my friends and
i are driving up from cincy and we don't want to go all the way to detroit
and get disappointed.  so i'd like some info before we leave.

if tranceformers DOES happen, i hope to see you all there!  i have been
looking forward to this party for a long time.
-sarah

 On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Adrienne Rahhal wrote:

> >Is anyone going to twilight saturday night? I was going to goto
> >tranceformers but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled cause
> >they have no place to have it at. I wouldnt want to buy a ticket for that
> >party if that is true.
> 
> I thought tix were on sale already??  Anyone know what the deal is?  Lemma 
> know too so I don't blow a wad of money on some funkt up shit.
> 
> muchas gracias
>   Adrienne
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Tomorrow is Zodiac
here's all the info you'll need to know.

The map point for this weekend will be at the Fusion Cafe' located at the 
corner of Bloomington and E. Lake St. in minneapolis
Tickets & Directions will be available there for $10.00 from 9:30pm til' 
1:00am after 1:00 tix will be available @ the door for $15.00

presale- Begining Wed. @ Cynesthesia for $10.00
Available at Cynesthesia: ed - Thurs - Fri - Sat 12-9 : after Nine at Fusion



DO NOT CALL FUSION CAFE FOR DIRECTIONS
they will not give them to you, you must go there and pick up a map or check 
here (http://www.alliedsubstructure.com)
maps will be available here and at fusion at 9:30pm on saturday NOT BEFORE!
Absolutely No re-Entry
We expect a capacity crowd so be there early
NO DRUGS, ALCOHOL, WEAPONS, OR PISSY ATTITUDES
com in quickly and quietly, one person can ruin it all
DON'T BE THAT PERSON
again NO re-entry


Again, I can't stress this enough, we fully expect a capacity crowd
You WILL be turned away once we reach capacity, get there early to prevent 
this

IMPORTANT CHANGE WILL NOT BE GIVEN AT THE DOOR
YOU MUST HAVE EXACT CHANGE
WE WANT YOU INSIDE AND OFF THE STREET ASAP --- NO CHANGE WILL BE GIVEN
10$ before 1:00am, 15$ after

Party Hard, Party Safe, Party Fun
can't wait to see you all there



Adam Sjogren
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Matt Hellige is *REALLY* online in IRC!!!!


.....And Ken's flames are finally dying out!!!!

Bout time!!!


I feel GREAT!!!   I Love you guys!!!!!


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Hi Sam,

Are you new to the list?  I don't remember you posting before?
hhhmmm...makes ya think

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Subject: [mw] Tranceformers vs Twilight


Is anyone going to twilight saturday night? I was going to goto 
tranceformers but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled cause 
they have no place to have it at. I wouldnt want to buy a ticket for that 
party if that is true. Ogh well... the other party is cheaper anyways. Do 
you guys think little louie vega will show up for that other party? Cause i 
hear he is real good. some email me back and tell me if tranceformers is 
bunk or not please. i might just goto the other party anyways cause its 
cheaper. Sam.

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yeah... a little TOO suspicious.... damn shady people!!!  bad!

> Hi Sam,
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>  Are you new to the list?  I don't remember you posting before?
>  hhhmmm...makes ya think
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    Tranceformers is NOT cancelled.  It's gonna be at the old Studio 95
spot.  Everyone needs to chill with these stupid fucking rumours that
they're posting to the list.  Just because your brother's girlfriend's
grandmother's crackdealer said something doesn't mean it's true.



At 04:43 PM 9/24/99 -0500, arthursc@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:
>
>hey everyone...
>well, if someone gets the word on tranceformers for sure (cancelled or
>not) will they please post it tonight or tomorrow morning?  my friends and
>i are driving up from cincy and we don't want to go all the way to detroit
>and get disappointed.  so i'd like some info before we leave.
>
>if tranceformers DOES happen, i hope to see you all there!  i have been
>looking forward to this party for a long time.
>-sarah
>
> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Adrienne Rahhal wrote:
>
>> >Is anyone going to twilight saturday night? I was going to goto
>> >tranceformers but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled
cause
>> >they have no place to have it at. I wouldnt want to buy a ticket for that
>> >party if that is true.
>> 
>> I thought tix were on sale already??  Anyone know what the deal is?  Lemma 
>> know too so I don't blow a wad of money on some funkt up shit.
>> 
>> muchas gracias
>>   Adrienne
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Subject: Harvest 1999


HARVEST DIRECTIONS
-------------------------------
>From Downtown St.Louis, Missouri

Take Interstate 55 South (roughly 35 miles)
to Exit 174B / Highway 67 South (just past festus)
Travel 21 miles to first right after huge JESUS billboard
(space walker building on corner)
Go one block
At first stop sign turn right on to Barry Road
Follow to entrance gate on right
and there you are!

HARVEST DEEJAY LINEUP
------------------------------

Starting at 11:00 pm - 
DJ K-Nine(st.louis' #1 turntable trickster)

11:30pm to 12:15am -
The Midwest Avengers(st.louis' #1 Hip-Hopperz)

12:15am to 1:00am -
TRE(st.louis jungle at it's best)

1:00am to 2:30am -
Matt Druid(strictly chicago baby)

2:30am to 4:00am -
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4:00am to 4:45am -
Dj TwoTone(the next best thing in st.L jungle)

4:45am to 5:30am -
Primo(catch this kid in his last st.L party)

5:30am to 6:15am -
DNS(just a little more drum & bass baby)

Remember if you are coming to see the DeeJay's
and not the bands 
the show starts at 10:00pm.
Also don't worry about the beer it will be served
during the bands performance!
Thank You
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you better watch out Matt, Ian is gonna like you.
he gets off on shit like this,
next thing you know he's gonna be sitting on your
porchstep everyday waiting for you to come home and
play nintendo with him, 
just warning ya!

--- matt <demmon@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Wow dude. That was even more tasteless than your
> signature file is
> annoying.
> 
> I'm Matt Cock.
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> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Ian Hard wrote:
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> > I wrote a hardcore song about Columbine to rasie
> some money. For me.  It 
> > goes:
> > Daddy has nice rifles
> > Daddy has nice rifles
> > I'm bringin' one to school today for show and tell
> > 1234
> > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
> > I'm Ian Hard
> > Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> > 4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> > St. louis, Mo.63116
> > 314.994.1284
> > www.ianhardrecords.com
> > ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> > www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> > sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> > 
> > >From: "Rob Micek" <robmiblind@hotmail.com>
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> > >You know what...
> > >
> > >I'm so sick of all this Columbine talk.  Being
> from Denver and about 20
> > >minutes or so from the school, it's a very
> sensitive issue.  For my sake 
> > >and
> > >for the sake of those that wish to put this
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> > >plead for you to not post anything more on the
> subject.
> > >
> > >Thank you for understanding.
> > >
> > >Remember...
> > >
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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Kevin Robbins wrote:

> 
>     Tranceformers is NOT cancelled.  It's gonna be at the old Studio 95
> spot.

isn't this a 2-room event?  how are they planning on having 2 rooms at
studio 95??

this is IF the party is happening.  i'd believe my brother's girlfriend's
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Ya, speaking on spreading rumors, we have not left any messages on thier 
answering machine. Its actually the other way around. I usually dont post 
to this list, i just like to see what people have to say. But jim here 
has made a contradiction. Funny. So if you anyone on this list is a true 
house lover, they can come see a kick ass show by one of the best house 
dj's in the world. You see the flyer, you see the lineup, nothing more 
needs to be said cause the people who know will be there, and the people 
who dont will be somewhere else. Its that simple. I will now monitor this 
list more closely to see that people dont spread any rumors or make 
anymore contradictions. All the people that know, i'll see you there.

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jim SeKoch wrote:

> >>but everyone has been saying that the party was cancled cause
> they have no place to have it at.
> 
> WHAT?  Who's everyone?  That's the first time I heard that....who did you 
> hear it from??  Tell us their name(s)...not just "some friends".
> 
> It's not cool if that rumor's being spread around.
> 
> The infoline message hasn't changed....I hate this bullshit.  I also heard 
> that the Twilight folks are leaving threatening messages for Jerry on the 
> infoline machine.....unbelievably pathetic.
> 
> >>Cause i hear he is real good.
> 
> Little Louis is in a league of his own behind the decks...he works 3 tables 
> like NOBODY's business.  :)  Seeing as how he's playing 6 hours by 
> himself...you'll be in for such a great ride!  hehehe....  If I didn't love 
> trance so much...I'd be at Twilight in a heartbeat.
> 
> So Sam....as best as I can tell you...Tranceformers is not cancelled.  They 
> had trouble getting tickets back from being printed...but that doesn't mean 
> the party's bunk.  I left another message for Jerry to let him know that 
> word's on the street that the party's been cancelled.
> 
> Regardless...have a good weekend.
> 
> Bop
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Check out the thirty three and a third web page at 
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Hi everyone!  Ok...I just got off the phone with Jerry and here's the deal:  
THE PARTY IS STILL ON TOMORROW NIGHT.  He said that whomever is saying it's 
been cancelled is lying.  He also asked me to call the support lines to let 
them know about the rumor floating around.

Reassure anyone else hearing the rumor that it's NOT cancelled.

So...we'll see you all tomorrow night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:)  I love a good party.  :)

Best wishes to all for a safe and fun weekend!

Love,

Bop

PS - If you can make it...the official pre-party is Strobe, tonight, and 
it's only $10 all night.

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People that know can suck my cock. That's about the dumbest saying I've
ever heard. Not that I know anything about Detroit politics. They sound
only half as dumb as Chicago politics.

Matt

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> Check out the thirty three and a third web page at 
> http://www.thirtythreeandathird.com. For all you people that know.
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Hey dude (or dudette),

What contradiction?  I have nothing against your promotional company or any 
others (with the possible exception of One World).  I just know what I was 
told.  Whether or not I was being lied to is another issue.

I still think both parties will do very well on their own accord.  Louis is 
a House legend "for those who know"....and I also happen to be related to 
his wife India (she gonna be there?).  She happens to be a priestess in my 
religion and I've met her and Louis several times when I lived in NYC (let 
him know the Detroit Santeros love and support them!)...so please don't 
think I was throwing shade towards your party....I wasn't.  We can ALL get 
along and all have different parties on the same night and still "do well".

Well..."for those who know" me....:)  Y'all know I care more about people 
just having fun...so now that we all "know" the truth about both parties 
goin down...let's just have fun...aight?  :)

Best wishes and blessings always,

Love,

Jim

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Saturday December 11th 1999 > Cincinnati, Ohio=20

Subsonik Productions presents=85.

DEEP AUDIO RELEASE

With performances by:

DAN CURTIN. Metamorphic. Sublime.Cleveland

MILES MAEDA. 3 to 5. San Diego

MARK VERBOS (live p.a.) Planet Rhythm.Chicago

DERRICK THOMPSON a.k.a DRIVETRAIN. Soiree, XPLOR. Detroit

PERRY =91PARIS=92 ELLIS. Subsonik, Dirty Loop, 3 to 5, Soiree. =
Cincinnati

ROBERT CURCIO. Dirty Loop, 3 to 5, Night Life Collective. NYC/Cincinnati

TROLL w/ MC Firecat. C.B.S. Sweat. Cincinnati

KEVIN CUNNINGHAM. Psychoactive, Supreme, Chicago

MAD CHILLER. Sonic Soup Kitchen. Ft. Wayne

BEN KENOBI. Fame, Shpere, Malfunction. Columbus

J. CRU. Speak Easy, Mush. Cincinnati

SPIRT vs. INFINITE GREY (DJ vs. live p.a.). Subsonik, Linenoiz. =
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ADAM JENSEN. Subsonik. Cincy/Chicago

HEADSTRONG. Ruffdrapht. Cincinnati

Deep Audio Release is taking place in a 100% legal, clean, secure venue =
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will be tons of free giveaways from Dirty Loop Music, Subsonik =
Productions, and more! Expect what you have come to know over the past =
year of subsonik events. From the the crew that brought you BASS =
REACTION and FUTURE TEKNOLOGY!

Tickets are $20 w/ a toy donation for a childrens Christmas charity. $25 =
a the door with out a donation. For more info and directions call =
513.682.3282 or visit us on the world wide web at =
http://subsonik.linenoiz.com. Thanks to all who have shown love and =
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  Don't know.  Don't care.  Trance sucks anyway.  Mars and Myster-E are the
shit though.  Whoever the ghetto trash was that posted that 33 1/3 message
can go fuck themselves.  The kids throwing Tranceformers are my friends and
are nothing more than some ravers who love trance and want to give kids in
Detroit an opportunity to see some world-class trance dj's.  They've had to
deal with so much shit from the ghetto-ass Detroit scene for no reason.
For this kid to try and make people believe that they are leaving
threatening messages on their info. line is ridiculous.  That's about all I
have to say.  Oh and one last thing, Doris's brother's girlfriend's grandma
is a crackdealer.  

At 07:02 PM 9/24/99 -0400, doris wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Kevin Robbins wrote:
>
>> 
>>     Tranceformers is NOT cancelled.  It's gonna be at the old Studio 95
>> spot.
>
>isn't this a 2-room event?  how are they planning on having 2 rooms at
>studio 95??
>
>this is IF the party is happening.  i'd believe my brother's girlfriend's
>grandma's crackdealer over kevin anyday.
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Did the world collapse? Or is it just friday night? Why am I checking my
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Fuckers.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 05:07:19 1999
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HOLY SHIT BALLS BATMAN.....it looks like Christmas is comming early to KC!

Hell yeah.....

Bring it ON!

--Tobz

Party Info Below:
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Coming to Kansas City on December 3, 1999 an evening of pure tag team
action.  Strung Out Productions brings to you...

     ===\/\/ravel/\/\ania I===

All night long on 4 turntables and 2 mixers

Your MAIN EVENTS for the evening will be...

Bringing the Civil War back...it's a battle between the NORTH AND SOUTH to
see who really does have the HAPPIEST HARDCORE...

DJ SPREE   vs.   DJ MUPPETFUCKER

with special guest referMC...MC ADB

And the battle of Opposite ends of I-70 in the state of Missouri for
middlweight house dj of the state...

Representing the east and west sides of the show me state..

DJ NITRO   vs.  STAN DOUBLIN

other matchups for the evening include


.com vs. Natron88
for biggest baddest booty

Jens vs. ricA
for the trance trounce

MORE MATCHES TO BE ANOUNCED....
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Hey this is Scott from Havoc Detroit,
	I am just wondering who is planning on coming out to We Collect Information
on Oct 2nd?  Let me know how you feel in private or public.

later,
	Scott

Havoc Detroit
October 2nd


The First Annual Detroit Electronic Music Festival


“We Collect Information”

Here is our info:

This event will take place at a venue capable of holding
5000+  Festivalgoers.  There will be tons of world renowned
talent, and a full scale production for your submersive
music enjoying experience.  Get tons more info and audio
samples of all artists at:
                              www.openhousepro.com/havoc

or call our info line at 810.447.2670.

We will be featuring below
mentioned artists:

The first Midwest appearance of one of the BEST
Techno Live sets ever,

                  THE HOLY GHOST (live) - Tresor Recording Artists, UK
                  A three person live set from the UK with antics,
                  rhythms, and bass to keep even the most
                  experienced party-goer in complete wonder.  They
                  have produced 18 extremely sought after releases on
                  Tresor and on their self titled label “Holy Ghost.”
                  Look to be awe struck.

The return of a world renowned favorite,

                  NEIL LANDSTRUMM - Tresor Recording Artist, NY
                  Known not only for his extraordinary Techno
                  And Drum & Bass sets but also as an amazing
                  Producer.  Landstrumm´s body of work spans
                  from 1994-1998. He has recorded for some of
                  the most influential labels in Techno including
                  Tresor, peacefrog, Scandinavia, Mosquito and
                  Sonic Groove building up an extensive discography.
                  He is the proud founder of Scandinavia which is
                  one of the great innovative names in Techno.

The return of a Detroit Innovator,

                  D-WYNN - Transmat, DET, WORLD

			D-Wynn was one of the originators of the Detroit
			Techno Scene and has worked with various artist
			in the industry as a DJ/Remixer/Producer.  Some
			of these world class artists are Derrick May, Kevin
			Saunderson, Carl Craig , Chaz Damirei just to name
			a few.

			His combination of pumping house and fresh techno
			have inspired crowds all around the world whether
			it was playing at the Detroit Music Institute, world
			renowned for its underground music, or performing as the
			official DJ for such artists as Inner City, Reese Project,
			New Order, and Delite.

			D-Wynn always loves playing in his home town of Detroit
			but that does not stop him from globe trotting.  England,
			Amsterdam, Switzerland, Chicago, New York, San Francisco,
			Germany, France, Italy, Toronto, Belgium, Tokyo, Scotland,
			Turkey are just some of the many cities and countries he
			has dazzled crowds in.


Swedish Percussive phenomenon,

			JOHN SELWAY - Tronic, Primate, Ultra Records, Serotonin Records
			One of the best Swedish Percussive DJs to come around
			He plays the stuff that will not let you stop dancing.
			When he is on the decks we have witnessed people rush to the
			front and dance shoulder to shoulder the entire set.  He is
			the type of dj that the scene needs to stay alive and kicking.


The return of a divers Techno, Funky Hard / Disko House favorite,

                  ANGEL ALANIS - Contaminated Muzik,
                  Soul Phusion Recordings, Contact,
                  Subspace, Underground Construction, Caffeine, etc., CHI
                  With 29 releases he is out there and staying strong.
                  He will prove it once again when he drops tracks
                  on October 2nd.  He is a diverse asset to the House
                  scene and will display styles from hard house,
                  disco house, house, and techno.


The return of another Detroit Innovator,

                  SHAKE - frictional records, DET

			Shake is regarded as one of the original innovators of
			Detroit techno alongside such contemporaries as Juan
			Atkins, Derrick May, and Kevin Saunderson.  he has put
			out acclaimed records on metroplex and serious
			grooves records and currently runs frictional records.
			Shake has played all over Europe and was featured on
			the European leg of DJ hell's gigolo monstersupertour
			in late 1997.  Shake plays an eclectic mix of house
			and hard traxx with a little techno thrown in there as well.


The first appearance in the Detroit area of a fast growing
world known talent at producing Disco House and fat remixes,

                 DISKO KIDZ - Soul Phusion Recordings (live), MIAMI
                 Come and hear these KidZ play a set of the most
                 adrenaline packed hard disco house that you could
                 hope for.  As Future Distribution’s most popular
                 booking we are lucky to have these Floridians
                 coming up from the sunshine state.
                 Their new release will be the long awaited
                 "De La Phunk EP.”  They also have remixes of
                 De La Soul tracks planed.

The CD Release of two Havoc Recording artists,

                 THE EQUINOX - Havoc Recordings, DET
                 Known now throughout the Midwest for his hard to
                 melodic mixes and well learned style.  He is not
                 one to miss as he is taking on techno theory by
                 storm.  He will be releasing original and unreleased
                 tracks on his first compilation with Havoc Records.
                 Don’t find yourself saying he was here, but I missed
                 his set.


                 DMT (Chris Warsow) - Havoc Recordings, DET
                 Let’s just put it this way, “The Best Acid Techno (with
                 a hint of Funky Hard House) DJ in the United States.”
                 “If you dislike his set I will consider it as a personal
                 insult and retire from business.”  Those of you who
                 have seen his Acid know exactly what I am talking
                 about and I know because of the huge number of you
                 who come up to us to ask about his next appearance
                 or a possible Tape or CD.  Well wait no longer October
                 second you can have both!!!

These guys rock!! -
                 Mono Productions, Bachelor DJs, DET Damn!    These guys
                 really know what's up. They spin such a versatile mix of
                 Techno, House, Acid, etc. that you can not even put them
                 in a category. No matter how wide spread their tastes
                 they always put something together that just makes the
                 crowds go nuts.

The appearance of a new Havoc addition,

                 MIKE Z. - Havoc Recordings, DET
                 This Boy is the next Three Table Techno Assassin.
                 He will put on a show building mix of astronomical
                 proportions taking some of the tracks you love and
                 mixing them into a melody of triple the groove.

Bassfrog - need we say more?
Kikoman(Grand Rapids),
X-ian (Cinci),
Lauren Flax,
Justin Hand,
Joe Lynn (88.9, E.L.),
Marc Web (Black Tie, LAN.),
DJ Mentos


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Overall, I'm glad that I'm not the biggest cock on mw-raves.
Sometimes I
think I'm pretty close, but then I see another one of Chris'
posts. He
makes little girls cry.Matt

======>I feel cheated.

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Did anybody else get that last page and a half of GARBAGE?

Beautiful,

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 07:12:42 1999
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ahhhh damn, I wish I was back in the KC scene!!! Dylan...wow, that should be 
dope as hell.  Props to you.

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ya but who has the biggest cock on mw-raves 

-----Original Message-----
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>Overall, I'm glad that I'm not the biggest cock on mw-raves.
>Sometimes I
>think I'm pretty close, but then I see another one of Chris'
>posts. He
>makes little girls cry.Matt
>
>======>I feel cheated.
>
>TRUNKalicious  Mo'BASS  NSMM
>4802810@skytel.com  GET ME RIGHT NOW!!
>trunk@public-enemy.com  My Secretary
>http://www.wudang.com  My style
>http://welcome.to/mobass.com  My crew and tracks
>http://www.not-so-massive.com  My psuedo crew
>
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 07:27:55 1999
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1) ALMOST everyone on this system who posts a positive review of a party is a 
DJ who spun at it or the promoter of it, or a friend of a DJ who spun at it. 
(aka BIASED)
2) Most people who try to hype up an upcoming event are people who are going 
to get in free. (aka BIASED)
3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are lame DJs. If they weren't on this 
list I'd have more respect for them. (my advice)

I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be 
missed....
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*Raises hand*


That would be *ME*

:)

derek.



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>ya but who has the biggest cock on mw-raves 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: trunk@public-enemy.com <trunk@public-enemy.com>
>
>
>>Overall, I'm glad that I'm not the biggest cock on mw-raves.
>>Sometimes I
>>think I'm pretty close, but then I see another one of Chris'
>>posts. He
>>makes little girls cry.Matt
>>
>>======>I feel cheated.
>>
>>TRUNKalicious  Mo'BASS  NSMM
>>4802810@skytel.com  GET ME RIGHT NOW!!
>>trunk@public-enemy.com  My Secretary
>>http://www.wudang.com  My style
>>http://welcome.to/mobass.com  My crew and tracks
>>http://www.not-so-massive.com  My psuedo crew
>>
>>
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>I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be
>missed....
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ill miss you

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 10:41:11 1999
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In a message dated 9/25/99 3:28:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
RobertC4me@aol.com writes:

<< RobertC4me >>


Get the fuk off of the list (aka fuk you!) 



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 11:56:15 1999
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Wow yah you know what you're talking about.  
Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
Hey Spree, when did you start sucking?
And all the rest of the extrememly great DJs on this list, please continue
being great and laughing at this incredibly loser.
RobertC go away and sulk in a corner somewhere else.  Please be on this
list not 'much longer'.  Your stupidity is dragging my IQ down by mere
contact.

Peace and lub all!

Kale/DreamSequence


> 3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are lame DJs. If they weren't on this 
> list I'd have more respect for them. (my advice)
> 
> I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be 
> missed....
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 12:01:12 1999
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at the next WTW robert c should come and be our mascot/punch dummy!  i am
sure doormouse would have some fun

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>Wow yah you know what you're talking about.
>Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
>Hey Spree, when did you start sucking?
>And all the rest of the extrememly great DJs on this list, please continue
>being great and laughing at this incredibly loser.
>RobertC go away and sulk in a corner somewhere else.  Please be on this
>list not 'much longer'.  Your stupidity is dragging my IQ down by mere
>contact.
>
>Peace and lub all!
>
>Kale/DreamSequence
>
>
>> 3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are lame DJs. If they weren't on this
>> list I'd have more respect for them. (my advice)
>>
>> I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be
>> missed....
>> -Robert C
>>
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LOUiPiMPS artist - Moonbuggy is in the final round of the 7up competition.
Please go to www.theuns.com and vote for their song "ghost" right away. i
think you can vote up to once per day so keep going back all week. if they
win this could be a great boost for sales of Variable 02 since they are a
featured artist on this compilation. Thanks for your support! We all
appreciate it.

- Radianation
http://www.louipimps.com



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 14:42:29 1999
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Everything is all set to go down here in Kansas City tonight.

Rowland and the Geezer ,sporting Hawaiian shirts,
stopped by the electrounderground in
K.C. last night (the bastard spun for the last hour of the night...
free party style) The rest of punk floyd will be in today. Sound
at the venue is all setup ready to go.

See everyone there!



--
Adam Mertz
dj n.9

[ The number 23 is the 9th prime number. ]

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 14:57:05 1999
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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> Check out the thirty three and a third web page at 
> http://www.thirtythreeandathird.com. For all you people that know.
> 

can i go look at it too?  cause i don't think i know, but i'd still like
to go check it out...  is that cool?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 15:12:17 1999
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 October 2nd?
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On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Scott wrote:

> Hey this is Scott from Havoc Detroit,
> 	I am just wondering who is planning on coming out to We Collect
> Information on Oct 2nd?  Let me know how you feel in private or
> public.
> 
> later,
> 	Scott

lookin' good.
wish i could go, but won't be in town.  :/
for some reason i seem to have a problem with the concept of the "first
annual detroit electronic music festival," but i can't figure out exactly
what bothers me about it so i can't bitch about it.  how will it be
different from an average "party" though?  (i assume it has some extra
features so that it needed a title other than "party")
oh well.
i'd go if i were around.
good luck w/ the event,
-doris

oh yeah, i appreciate that on the flyer you made an effort to give some
kind of idea of what the dj's spin.  (the little legend was cute)  i wish
this were done on more flyers, since not everybody is good w/ the name
game and can match any given name w/ a style of music.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 15:25:54 1999
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damn i've been outta the loop...
/me wants to go!

so who's with me?..heh.

bekka :)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 15:44:17 1999
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Hey, dan efex is on the trance list, does that mean he sucks too?
Dont let the door hit ya where tha good lord split ya, 
Stumpman

DreamSequence wrote:
> 
> Wow yah you know what you're talking about.
> Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
> Hey Spree, when did you start sucking?
> And all the rest of the extrememly great DJs on this list, please continue
> being great and laughing at this incredibly loser.
> RobertC go away and sulk in a corner somewhere else.  Please be on this
> list not 'much longer'.  Your stupidity is dragging my IQ down by mere
> contact.
> 
> Peace and lub all!
> 
> Kale/DreamSequence
> 
> > 3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are lame DJs. If they weren't on this
> > list I'd have more respect for them. (my advice)
> >
> > I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be
> > missed....
> > -Robert C
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mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> Ya, speaking on spreading rumors, we have not left any messages on thier
> answering machine.

blahblahblah.......
bah. yer all a buncha chumps who couldn't wrestle dey way outta a wet McDonald's
bag wif a fucking Sawz-All(tm) bitch-ass buttsuckin ho sucka.

so-called promoters all fuckin wif each other is sooooooooo fucking weak.

so are you a "Blood" or are you a "Crip"?

bitch.

--aRNO

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 16:45:36 1999
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Jon Gotti wrote:

> you better watch out Matt, Ian is gonna like you.
> he gets off on shit like this,
> next thing you know he's gonna be sitting on your
> porchstep everyday waiting for you to come home and
> play nintendo with him,
> just warning ya!

have y'all ever smoked hella crack an sat around drinkin ice-water an
playin NBA JAMS!! on super nintendo till noon da next two-days later?

it's a pretty good time.

*hugs*
--aRNO

"HE'S ON _FIRE_!!!!!!"

http://poofin.com/arno/
1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010

no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor



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I tried that once, except it was with Kool-Aid, and it was more fun than a
barrel of monkeys (tried that on crack for two days too) You kids don't know
what you're missing!

///D@/\/|3L\\\

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org
> [mailto:mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Big Black Betty
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 11:46 AM
> To: Jon Gotti
> Cc: matt; The MidWest Parliament
> Subject: Re: [mw] Interesting article
>
>
>
>
> Jon Gotti wrote:
>
> > you better watch out Matt, Ian is gonna like you.
> > he gets off on shit like this,
> > next thing you know he's gonna be sitting on your
> > porchstep everyday waiting for you to come home and
> > play nintendo with him,
> > just warning ya!
>
> have y'all ever smoked hella crack an sat around drinkin ice-water an
> playin NBA JAMS!! on super nintendo till noon da next two-days later?
>
> it's a pretty good time.
>
> *hugs*
> --aRNO
>
> "HE'S ON _FIRE_!!!!!!"
>
http://poofin.com/arno/
1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Sep 25 17:34:24 1999
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I bet it's not you.

Matt

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Mike @ Full Spectrum wrote:

> ya but who has the biggest cock on mw-raves 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: trunk@public-enemy.com <trunk@public-enemy.com>
> 
> 
> >Overall, I'm glad that I'm not the biggest cock on mw-raves.
> >Sometimes I
> >think I'm pretty close, but then I see another one of Chris'
> >posts. He
> >makes little girls cry.Matt
> >
> >======>I feel cheated.
> >
> >TRUNKalicious  Mo'BASS  NSMM
> >4802810@skytel.com  GET ME RIGHT NOW!!
> >trunk@public-enemy.com  My Secretary
> >http://www.wudang.com  My style
> >http://welcome.to/mobass.com  My crew and tracks
> >http://www.not-so-massive.com  My psuedo crew
> >
> >
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RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> 1) ALMOST everyone on this system who hasn't shit in my mouth really needs to,
> because i enjoy that type of thing very much. thank you.
> 2) Most people who try to hype up an upcoming event are people who are always
> fucking my ass like a raging bull on crack. not that that's a bad thing, mind
> you.
> 3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are SuperStar DJs like my all-time favorite
> DJ, SuperStar DJ GeddoBird Liberty. If he/she/it wasn't on this
> list, my favorite DJ would be Dr. Thunder ~vs~ Boopusher ~vs~ DJ Slapahoe. (my
> advice)
>
> I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be
> missed....
> -Robert C

sheeesh.

yer fucking weird man.

good riddance.

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<yawn>

entro
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> << And if the fact that you're not partying in a
>  warehouse is one of the biggest complaint you've got, in my eyes I guess
>  that's not so bad.  >>
>
> I'm not trying to rip on Joe here..  but hey!  Have you ever been to a
> warehouse party other than Dreamsicle?  I like the St. Paul Armory.  It's
> very spacious, clean and actually has two rooms, as compared to two
systems
> seperated by a damn tarp!  I'm not sick of it because I've only been to
one
> party there, Love 99..

    I agree with jen, and I *AM* trying to bash on joe here, damnit it's
fun! and easy! I really do think the armory is a great location, but I agree
that I'd hate to see a party there every month, that would get real old real
quick. (st paul convention center X hall anyone?) anyhow, I certainly
understand the predicament promoters are in, they're trying to find a good
place to throw a party, but it's almost impossible to find a place to throw
a party in period. We'll see if I can manage any better.

 (In my opinion, that was one of the best parties so
> far this year.)  I've also never been to the Bethel Ice Arena.
> Granted, I also get a little bored with the ice arenas, and have definetly
> become a lot choosier with what to go to

    yes, I personally feel that if it's in an ice arena, and it doesn't have
a physical second room, you just plain SHOULD NOT put a second system behind
the first system and try to pretend that's enough. It just isn't, everybody
knows it, I'd be happier with just one slightly bigger system or slightly
bigger headliners or something with the money that would otherwise be spent
on a second system. But oh wait, I forgot, a second system lets you put more
DJs on the flyer, and everybody knows it's the flyer that makes the party...
=]

      - Matt Murphy -
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> 
>      Tranceformers is NOT cancelled.  It's gonna be at the old Studio 95
>  spot.  

aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!


yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes 

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are they playing in any other midwest cities/???

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> damn i've been outta the loop...
>  /me wants to go!
>  
>  so who's with me?..heh.

hey bekka --
even tho we never met, for some reason, i'm with ya!  haha.
To bad Doris won't be in town.. the party just won't be as rave without her.  
/me does the detroit skip

-charlie / angelboi-

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--

On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:44:06   RaVeR1420 wrote:
>Is s/he really a man????


yea... theres a man under that gear. Dont worry, I was under the understanding that it was really a woman until we had her(him) play for us at Furthur this year. Not to mention a really great house dj....

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Does anyone know what the number is for the info-line to tranceformers is?

Muchas Gracias, 

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<< Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
 Hey Spree, when did you start sucking? >>

NOTE: I said "almost" all the DJs suck.  Yeah, I think Spree sucks.  Paul J 
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>From: "Jim SeKoch" <boppity@hotmail.com>
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>
>Hi everyone,
>
>Does ANYONE know anything regarding the ticket situation for the party?
>They're STILL not out in the stores.  I've left messages for Jerry 
>inquiring
>about the situation...but no returned calls.
>
>If they don't intend on putting out presale tickets, they best knock off
>$5.00 from the door cost....otherwise what was the point of having cheaper
>presales that were never out in stores?
>
>Later,
>
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Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:

> If you are stupid enough to wanmt to go to an all-trance party, you deserve
> to pay $745 at the door. P.S. I will be there, however, to shoot you.

BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

HA!

i jus peed me kilt.

nice juan yo.

WHOOO-HAH!!!
--aRNO

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I think you don't know what you're talking about. And you're a cock. Do
you think that Matt Positive sucks? Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? Do
you think Disco D sucks? How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight, Jethrox,
Joe Carroll, .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt Demmon, Chad
Sponholz, Trunk, Eye-D, DJ Tsar, DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, etc. etc.
etc. How many of these DJs have you seen, cocksucker? Your opinion doesn't
mean shit and a big name doesn't make a good DJ.

Matt

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> << Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
>  Hey Spree, when did you start sucking? >>
> 
> NOTE: I said "almost" all the DJs suck.  Yeah, I think Spree sucks.  Paul J 
> is OK though.
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matt wrote:

> I think you don't know what you're talking about. And you're a cock. Do
> you think that Matt Positive sucks? Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? Do
> you think Disco D sucks? How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight, Jethrox,
> Joe Carroll, .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt Demmon, Chad
> Sponholz, Trunk, Eye-D, DJ Tsar, DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, etc. etc.
> etc. How many of these DJs have you seen, cocksucker? Your opinion doesn't
> mean shit and a big name doesn't make a good DJ.
>
> Matt

HEY!!!! YOU FERGOT ABOUT SUPERSTAR DJ GEDDOBIRD LIBERTY!!!!!
.....i'm gonna whip dica's ass like a lion next wed. at tai joe's yo.

love,
--aRNO

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I think the midwest has a DOPE scene.  I dont know what the hell you all are 
talking about.  Just cause we all still got vibe and much love, the scene 
sucks?  Look at NYC and So. Cali, its all plastic and fake.  Kids going to 
their first party as a candy kid, no respect for anyone, all about the drugs 
and not music/dancing/vibe.  The midwest is where its at.  Just cause we 
aren't the biggest, or have the most drugs, or the most popular DJs, we dont 
suck by anymeans.  

KC, St Louis, those scenes are nice.
PLUR-
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the only thing i have to say to this, is that they are lying...i'm really 
good friends with jerry. and i know that 33 1/3 and btm, did beat up justin 
from (i wanna say karmalogical, but not sure) well anyways they beat him up 
for throwing pimps behind the decks. and they video taped it. and they were 
saying that jerry is next. THAT IS SUCH BULLSHIT...


mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

 > Ya, speaking on spreading rumors, we have not left any messages on thier
 > answering machine.

blahblahblah.......
bah. yer all a buncha chumps who couldn't wrestle dey way outta a wet 
McDonald's
bag wif a fucking Sawz-All(tm) bitch-ass buttsuckin ho sucka.

so-called promoters all fuckin wif each other is sooooooooo fucking weak.

so are you a "Blood" or are you a "Crip"?

bitch.

--aRNO

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>HEY!!!! YOU FERGOT ABOUT SUPERSTAR DJ GEDDOBIRD LIBERTY!!!!!
>.....i'm gonna whip dica's ass like a lion next wed. at tai joe's yo.

you touch my ass... and i will love you till the sunshine stops the rain.


////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus
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scene, i do my own thing.  my mind is the machine gun, my body is the 
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> << Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
>  Hey Spree, when did you start sucking? >>
>
> NOTE: I said "almost" all the DJs suck.  Yeah, I think Spree sucks.  Paul
J
> is OK though.
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oh, thanks for clarifying who sucks and who doesn't.  i can sleep at night
now.

...and so robert goes the way of our beloved rayray...

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> I think the midwest has a DOPE scene.
--
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arent we all a little too young to be THIS cynical...i for one dont like 
generalizations...get over it....did you just want to cause so me 
drama???what was the point of this post exactly???
**lora**


>1) ALMOST everyone on this system who posts a positive review of a party is 
>a
>DJ who spun at it or the promoter of it, or a friend of a DJ who spun at 
>it.
>(aka BIASED)
>2) Most people who try to hype up an upcoming event are people who are 
>going
>to get in free. (aka BIASED)
>3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are lame DJs. If they weren't on this
>list I'd have more respect for them. (my advice)
>
>I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be
>missed....
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"jon dica!" wrote:

> >HEY!!!! YOU FERGOT ABOUT SUPERSTAR DJ GEDDOBIRD LIBERTY!!!!!
> >.....i'm gonna whip dica's ass like a lion next wed. at tai joe's yo.
>
> you touch my ass... and i will love you till the sunshine stops the rain.

oh yeah!? well if you love me till the sunshine stops the rain,
i'll.....i'll.....

I'LL LOVE YOU LIKE TENDER VITTLES, FUCKER!!!!!!

so there.

--aRNO

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OH YEAH, FUKKSITK, ARENT YOU SUPPOSED TO BE GONE BY NOW???
SHEESH....ATREU, DJ STORM, DO WE HAVE AN AWARD OF SOME SORT FOR THIS GUY???
**lora**


>arent we all a little too young to be THIS cynical...i for one dont like
>generalizations...get over it....did you just want to cause so me
>drama???what was the point of this post exactly???
>**lora**
>
>
>>1) ALMOST everyone on this system who posts a positive review of a party 
>>is
>>a
>>DJ who spun at it or the promoter of it, or a friend of a DJ who spun at
>>it.
>>(aka BIASED)
>>2) Most people who try to hype up an upcoming event are people who are
>>going
>>to get in free. (aka BIASED)
>>3) (almost) All the DJs on mw-raves are lame DJs. If they weren't on this
>>list I'd have more respect for them. (my advice)
>>
>>I don't think I'll be on this board for much longer... I doubt I'll be
>>missed....
>>-Robert C
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happy birthday to Joe, aka raver1420, aka candy queer [j/k ;]

that kid is awesome.. he's one of the only reasons i'm on mw-raves.  except 
now he's on digest.. ohwell.  happy birthday!



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tonite. detroit. motor lounge. 21+. doors at 9 or 10. *shrug*

Panked@aol.com wrote:

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 00:28:46 1999
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anyone got an info line by chance???
please get back to me
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 01:00:20 1999
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I don't know how you could possibly think spree sucks.
* insert shameless plug for spree to give me another free tape*
Whereas his style of music may not be yours, you cannot say that his
mixing isn't clean, his scratching isn't fun, and his track selection
isn't really good.  
Whatever your view on things, if you feel that this makes a lame DJ...
well your opinions can't count for much.  If you have no apparent skill at
picking out the things in Djs that make them extrememly good, then your
judgements come out skewed, as they have in this particular instance.
There's lots of DJs that I don't like, but I know without a doubt that
they have extrememly good skills.  Lekebusch for instance... I find most
techno boring, unmoving, and too fast to truly move my body too.  (as
opposed to happy hardcore...hee)  But I know his mixing is extrememly
skilled.
And PaulJ, ok?  Wow, I haven't heard anybody that likes house say that b4.
But ok.... *nod and smile nod and smile*

Whateva dood.

I gotta go spin (poorly) at a house (i.e. beer) party now... see you
kiddies later... unless I see another email to reply to.  *grin*

Kale 


On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> << Hey, Paul Johnson, just wondering, have you suddenly become a lame DJ?
>  Hey Spree, when did you start sucking? >>
> 
> NOTE: I said "almost" all the DJs suck.  Yeah, I think Spree sucks.  Paul J 
> is OK though.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 01:03:19 1999
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thank you. Would you like a blowpop?
but im not really a good reason to do anything.. maybe get mad...
Support Consoul!

-joe who is oh so old now

> 
>  happy birthday to Joe, aka raver1420, aka candy queer [j/k ;]
>  
>  that kid is awesome.. he's one of the only reasons i'm on mw-raves.  
except 
>  now he's on digest.. ohwell.  happy birthday!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 01:15:33 1999
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OUR INFOLINE HAS GONE DOWN.  WE HAVE BEEN QUOTED 12:00AM WHEN IT WILL BE 
UPDATEABLE.

TEMP NUMBER 816-545-4402  (WILL BE UPDATED IN 30 MIN)

+PLEASE+ CIRCULATE THE FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS:

>From West:

I-70E to
435N
Take the Truman Road Exit
IT IS 35 MPH the entire route.  DO NOT SPEED
Follow Truman Road (approx 5 miles) through a number of traffic lights
Go through first four way stop.  First road on rt will be Pleasant.
Park in church parking lot if possible.
Next street will be Maple.

Address: 411  W. Maple

>From East:

1-70W to
435N
Take the Truman Road Exit
IT IS 35 MPH the entire route.  DO NOT SPEED
Follow Truman Road (approx 5 miles) through a number of traffic lights
Go through first four way stop.  First road on rt will be Pleasant.
Park in church parking lot if possible.
Next street will be Maple.

Address: 411  W. Maple

>From North:

1-35S (or I-29S) to 435S
Take the Truman Road Exit
IT IS 35 MPH the entire route.  DO NOT SPEED
Follow Truman Road (approx 5 miles) through a number of traffic lights
Go through first four way stop.  First road on rt will be Pleasant.
Park in church parking lot if possible.
Next street will be Maple.

Address: 411  W. Maple

>From South:

435N
Take the Truman Road Exit
IT IS 35 MPH the entire route.  DO NOT SPEED
Follow Truman Road (approx 5 miles) through a number of traffic lights
Go through first four way stop.  First road on rt will be Pleasant.
Park in church parking lot if possible.
Next street will be Maple.

Address:  411 W. Maple

THANK YOU!
Rachel Martz
Syceda Rhythm




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 03:14:39 1999
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> >ya but who has the biggest cock on mw-raves
>
> *Raises hand*
>
> That would be *ME*

if the size of Derek's cock is at all proportionate to the size and sag
of his nutsac I'd saw he's got Ron Jeremy beat... by a long shot.

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--------------+ one man's fish is another man's poisson +--------------
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 03:33:36 1999
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>Whereas his style of music may not be yours, you cannot say that his
>mixing isn't clean, his scratching isn't fun, and his track selection
>isn't really good.

it's hard to say someone's track selection is good if one doesn't enjoy the 
style of music... right?


////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus
-----------------------------------------------------------
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scene, i do my own thing.  my mind is the machine gun, my body is the 
bullets, and my audience is the target."  -GG Allin

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Sep 26 07:30:34 1999
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dont forget about www.jesusdance.com

Bambie Stachera wrote:

> This site had me rollin' on the ground laughing!
>
> www.hamsterdance.com
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> ;-) Renee'!
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Subject: [mw] New DJ/MC mixtape preview online - realaudio
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for some of ya'll, its about time and for some of you, its the first... so 
bear with me.

online now is a 30 minutes low quality preview of the new dj/mc mixtape from 
Kid Entropy, formerly mc for q-systems, unified theory, and dj 3d.  Now i'm 
doing my own thing, roots oriented and back to where i belong, in the 
sewer... a little journey into hip hop and hardstep along with the patented 
deep throated dynamics of yours truly... on the mic and on the decks... total 
verbal and aural selects.  The sequel, of course to last years "lebanese 
timing" and the cosmic breaks single "supernatty/for the love of it," 
"Hijacked Fabric" is the natural link between not only hip hop and drum and 
bass... but for all intensive purposes... is urban soul music reflecting the 
diversity of the bottom of the melting pot.  

featuring tracks from: Eye-d, kid entropy, global thing, back 2 basics, dj 
krust, john b., and more.
 
so check out our punk rock at:

http://beam.to/entro
click on mixes - must have g2

and be on the look out at your local tape booths and coming soon to your town 
on the mic and on the decks simultaneously.  

for those who've known.

inshallah

entro
773-409-4552 semiconscious management - logan square - chicago

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Nope.  I can always tell if someones track selection flows nicely...drops
out badly... comes on too strong (disharmony)... lacks rhyme or reason...  
Given, this is probably the more biased of judgements, simply because I
tend not to stick around and listen to an entire set of a style that I
don't enjoy.  But I think I can generally tell whether a dj has a nice
flow (or good major changes) going.  I'm no expert though.

It's ok to play slow prrrrrogreessssive trance and follow it with a Dan
Doormouse track right?

=)
K

On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, jon dica! wrote:

> >Whereas his style of music may not be yours, you cannot say that his
> >mixing isn't clean, his scratching isn't fun, and his track selection
> >isn't really good.
> 
> it's hard to say someone's track selection is good if one doesn't enjoy the 
> style of music... right?
> 
> 
> ////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate platypus
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "everybody is an enemy.  fuck it, i hate everybody.  i'm not part of any 
> scene, i do my own thing.  my mind is the machine gun, my body is the 
> bullets, and my audience is the target."  -GG Allin
> 
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I don't care what anybody says. I LOVED this party.
I didn't know that was a warehouse...persay.. But major "props" to 
AlliedSubstructure for throwing a WONDERFUL party. What a lovely 'birthday 
party' definitely one of the funnest parties...

Quick Breakdown:

Venue: The Only other warehouse party ive attended would have to be 
Dreamsicle. 
I think the space was quite...different. VERY crowded upstairs... and on the 
stairs going down. But the downstairs dancing area was just SCARY! Really 
Hot, Smokey (smoke machine...), The lights were good... after a while when 
the party got situated it was actually a lovely place to hang out (upstairs 
and down)

Music: What music? Last weekend I promised myself I would not get too fucked 
up to dance. Why did I do that again? OK so really the only time I heard a 
track that I recognized was BassmentJaxx. I did dance. I did fall over. (what 
was up with the floor down there anyway) so that was dance/music for the 
night. 

People: this is where the party really shined. the people there were some of 
the best people ive ever met at a party (well all the good ones from before 
were there too!) I have a restored sense of faith in people. (and trance 
music)... Shout outs to the Mw-Kids--- Jen, Caroline, Ryan(PLASTIC PORTAL!!), 
Chelsea (please dont hate me). 

Epilogue: Thank you to everybody who made my 15th birthday a very happy one. 
It was my first time "Rolling" (ecstacy) ive never felt some of those 
sensations before in my life. the tingliness. the my soul fusing with others 
to make us come as one. My Inhabitions left me and i no longer cared about 
what people thought of me. I was just yellin out happy things, playing with 
my birthday bear, and letting the feelings of euphoria sweep though my body. 
i would just like to say, i love the world. 

Joe/Raver1420/That one kid who is short.

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paul doyle --- chad sponholz
*looks from one to the other*
i do think so.
(except that about a chad and a half would make up one paul)


oh and with a few exceptions, detroit party kids need to die.  be beaten
down with a stick, for all i care.  plur.
**doris**



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> oh and with a few exceptions, detroit party kids need to die.  be beaten
> down with a stick, for all i care.  plur.
> **doris**


Yes, but a big warm squishy stick, right Doris?
And make sure to give them some jolly ranchers when you are done.  =)

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Ok, so most of us have been on the list for a while.  How many times you
have you seen people post something really ambiguous so that it incites a
veritable e-riot.
Only to have the person say, oh no, I was just being sarcastic, and
backing out of their comments completely.  Oooo that irks me.  Ya gotta be
held accountable for the stupid things you say.  *grin*

So from now on, if you want to be sarcastic and witty, or false simply for
fun, ya gotta put something before and after your comment... that way your
meaning, and oh-so-important tidbit of information for us won't get lost
in translation.

How about we stick ~~ before and after?
Something like this:

~~ ...since Matt+ is actually Honey Dijon in disquise. ~~

or

~~ ..too bad none of you mwravers know the first thing about music. ~~

See?  Makes it niiiice and easy.  No confusion.  We don't have to have
trunk come smack you with a pound of tofu in a sack.  No problem.

=)

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http://www.newgrounds.com/assassin/

or you could just go here and kill all your favorite celebrities like
Kid Rock, Manson, Britney Spears, Leo DiCaprio, the Backstreet boys, and

even Hamsterdance


> dont forget about www.jesusdance.com
>
> Bambie Stachera wrote:
>
> > This site had me rollin' on the ground laughing!
> >
> > www.hamsterdance.com
> >
> > ;-) Renee'!
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>What music? Last weekend I promised myself I would not get too fucked up
>to  dance. 

~~begin
Yup, but the party was great, right?  *smirk*
Who cares about the music anyway.  It's allll about being so fucked up ya
can't dance.  I can listen to music at home.  Cuz, ya can't really enjoy
things while you can think.

 >..Thank you to everybody who made my 15th birthday a very happy one. 

15... jees.  I think I remember being that young once.  

> It was my first time "Rolling" 

15... jees.  It's a good thing all of our younger ravey crowd is getting
trained earlier and earlier.  I don't like having to look after older
people.

> (ecstacy) ive never felt some of those sensations before in my life. the
  tingliness. the my soul fusing with others to make us come as one. My
  Inhibitions left me and i no longer cared about what people thought of
  me. I was just yellin out happy things, playing with my birthday bear,
  and letting the feelings of euphoria sweep though my body. i would just
  like to say, i love the world. 


15... jees.  Well I'm sure those feelings will stay with you the rest
of your life.  Cuz That's what it's all about.  Especially sharing your
experience with us.  Online.  In a public chatroom.  With people that are
only here about the drugs, and have probably never experienced anything
like this 2 or more years ago.  

~~end

I'm glad you had a good time though.
Because fun is what it is actually what it's all about.  But keep your
shit straight... no, I didn't say straight-edge, do what you want.  Keep
your shit straight, and don't go running up to a cop asking for acid
please.


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> So from now on, if you want to be sarcastic and witty, or false simply for
> fun, ya gotta put something before and after your comment... that way your
> meaning, and oh-so-important tidbit of information for us won't get lost
> in translation.
> 
> How about we stick ~~ before and after?
> Something like this:
> 
> ~~ ...since Matt+ is actually Honey Dijon in disquise. ~~
> 
> or
> 
> ~~ ..too bad none of you mwravers know the first thing about music. ~~





~~ i think that's a really good idea. ~~




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> ~~ i think that's a really good idea. ~~

WHAT A FUCKING STUPID ASS IDEA! Praise be the dumb ass 
that thought up this idea!
<insert>sarcasm</insert>

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On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Bekka wrote:

> damn i've been outta the loop...
> /me wants to go!
> 
> so who's with me?..heh.
> 
> bekka

Oi! Bekka!!  Steen here....I think I'm with you then....which probably
means Phil is too....Boppity??  Could I possibly talk you into it??


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Thats real cool. Louie is a real nice guy. We did fine on the party. But 
as far as these people sugesting that we were starting trouble on the 
mailing list is bullshit. I have been on the list for like 4 months now. 
After i setup our webserver i set it up to log everything. I never really 
posted to the list seeing the drama that is created very easliy. People 
will make things up to look how they want them to look. But i am not 
going to sit around and watch people make me look bad. I would ocasionally 
post things about our parties and that was it. But im sure all of you 
have been to at least one of our parties and had loads of fun. Everyone 
last night was having a blast, dispite the venue not being filled up. 
Anyways everyone check out Club Better Days, im sure you've been there 
before, on the weekends. You can get your membership cards free at 
recordtime. And the new memberships are good for any day. So check it 
out. Later.

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jim SeKoch wrote:

> Hey dude (or dudette),
> 
> What contradiction?  I have nothing against your promotional company or any 
> others (with the possible exception of One World).  I just know what I was 
> told.  Whether or not I was being lied to is another issue.
> 
> I still think both parties will do very well on their own accord.  Louis is 
> a House legend "for those who know"....and I also happen to be related to 
> his wife India (she gonna be there?).  She happens to be a priestess in my 
> religion and I've met her and Louis several times when I lived in NYC (let 
> him know the Detroit Santeros love and support them!)...so please don't 
> think I was throwing shade towards your party....I wasn't.  We can ALL get 
> along and all have different parties on the same night and still "do well".
> 
> Well..."for those who know" me....:)  Y'all know I care more about people 
> just having fun...so now that we all "know" the truth about both parties 
> goin down...let's just have fun...aight?  :)
> 
> Best wishes and blessings always,
> 
> Love,
> 
> Jim
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Whoever the getto trash that posted that non-33 1/3 message CAN go fuck 
themselves. Guilty untill proven innocent. This is High-School shit guys. 
Seriously. Chill the fuck out. Im never worried about makin money back on 
our parties. And thats all that really matter. All we were tryin to do is 
bring a world class house dj to detroit but detroit dosent respect 
anything but getto booty music. And another thing that is really too bad 
about that tranceformers party is they were selling nitrous. That is 
fucking sick and disgusting. That is fucking wrong and THATS WHY I DONT 
LIKE YOU! Im sure that party was nothing but a bunch of kids fighting 
over who gets the next baloon. We try to keep the drugs out. AND WE SHURE AS 
FUCK DONT SELL NITROUS. Give me a break, this is what makes us as 
promoters look bad. YOU make ME look BAD. Its not cool. Your not doing 
the nitrous kids a favor, your killing them. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE LOOK 
ON SOMEONES FACE WHILE THEY ARE ON THAT SHIT? FUCK YOU! THEY ARE DEAD. 
THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD. THAT IS BULLSHIT. NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU 
MAKE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH FUN THEY THINK THEY ARE HAVEING, ITS NOT WORTH 
IT. You people make we sick with that shit. The firehouse got shut down. 
WOW thats crazy. I mean, they are trying to destroy parties and when you 
do stupid shit like that, the more power they have against you, against 
us. We are trying to build the scene up, work with the city, give the 
city money to fund various programs. But you just make it easyer to 
destroy us. If you were a 'true' raver, if you care about the 'scene' 
look at what you have done, and what it could do. All of you people know 
what a party with nitrous is like and how it is without it. You all know 
where you would rather be. Unless your down with the raver crack. If i 
was about makein money, i could do the same thing. But i dont, cause i 
dont care. Whatever....

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Kevin Robbins wrote:

> 
>   Don't know.  Don't care.  Trance sucks anyway.  Mars and Myster-E are the
> shit though.  Whoever the ghetto trash was that posted that 33 1/3 message
> can go fuck themselves.  The kids throwing Tranceformers are my friends and
> are nothing more than some ravers who love trance and want to give kids in
> Detroit an opportunity to see some world-class trance dj's.  They've had to
> deal with so much shit from the ghetto-ass Detroit scene for no reason.
> For this kid to try and make people believe that they are leaving
> threatening messages on their info. line is ridiculous.  That's about all I
> have to say.  Oh and one last thing, Doris's brother's girlfriend's grandma
> is a crackdealer.  
> 
> At 07:02 PM 9/24/99 -0400, doris wrote:
> >On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Kevin Robbins wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >>     Tranceformers is NOT cancelled.  It's gonna be at the old Studio 95
> >> spot.
> >
> >isn't this a 2-room event?  how are they planning on having 2 rooms at
> >studio 95??
> >
> >this is IF the party is happening.  i'd believe my brother's girlfriend's
> >grandma's crackdealer over kevin anyday.
> >-d
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soooo...I am sick as a motherfucking dog and my left
ear is still ringing, but nonetheless here is the
review of one of the better parties I'd been to in
Indy.

I arrived about 7:30 to find out that the sound in
both rooms had already been set up (imagine
that...being prepared in advance). So as the guys from
Light Fantastik were setting up the lighting Nate was
playing some records and we were having a good time
before the doors were actually opened. Unknown concept
to some promoters out there , but what can u do =)
The party started on time and I'll just describe few
main points:

- Tim Krochalk spun slower/Sasha like blend of
progressive house n trance and did a very good job at
it. I very much enjoyed it.
- Dan Efex played after me and started off with stompy
harder trance and unfortunately i didn't get to hear
his entire set, because the monitor was so goddamn
loud that my left ear was ringing so I had to get out.
But what I heard was great, I showed up toward the end
of his set and he played some more progressive tracks
which made me very happy =)
- Another DJ i was very impressed with was Topspeed  -
FUCKING EH does he know his shit when it comes to
turntablism. It was so much fun watching him beat
juggle and make new beats and stuff, and he made it
look so fucking easy which is sooo not true =)

Here's what i liked the most about the party:
- seeing everything done ahead of time
- seeing shiva get down to my pussy ass trance
- dan efex
- topspeed
- great "vibe" - people were actually dancing, at an
Indy party....for those of u who've never been to Indy
parties - that's just simply amazing
- little things promoters did such as bringing water
to dj's, giving out little cards that say "may the
FUNK be with you", placing those scented candles all
over the place, etc.
- very good lights in the main room; 2 words - Light
Fantastik. The little yag lasers and the 4 roboscans
were just perfect for the type of the venue it was.
- big ass industrial fans everywhere 

What i disliked:
- sound system in the main room was a bit out of
shape; there were 2 many damn mids and my ears are
ringing like a motherfucker now 
- water was 2 bux which i guess there's nothing you
can do since i think the owner of the building
provided vending

Overall, great job by the FUNK boys. Definitely check
out their parties in the future if u are in Indy.
Great example of dedication to throwing good smaller
intimate parties with no big rock star bullshit and
hype and yet very solid production quality. Another
proof that a promoter doesn't have to spend tons of
money on big ass famous dj's who will probably suck
anyway to have high quality party. That's a big ass
hint to some promoters out there =)
Also...the venue was the same as the one used for Jade
a few weeks prior to that. BUT WHAT A FUCKING
difference! THe sound and lights were tons better,
there were 2 rooms instead of one and they used
shitloads of fans to make it more pleasureable. All
for 12 bux with a canned food donation. Another hint
to some promoters out there.


Luv to all
misha
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Yes, all praise the ass.  
Nothing like...ooooo say using 
CAPITALS

Or... I don't know... maybe a "!" to make yourself understood.
Oh yah.  
Praise be those that complain, yet add nothing... to life.
Or waiiiiit... perhaps I should use html... 

~~end sarcasm... oh wait.. .did it begin?  


On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Joe Garcia wrote:

> > ~~ i think that's a really good idea. ~~
> 
> WHAT A FUCKING STUPID ASS IDEA! Praise be the dumb ass 
> that thought up this idea!
> <insert>sarcasm</insert>
> 
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ok, so let me get your previous post straight....
you don't like shit talking, it ain't cool, and it gets everyone nowhere, right?
so let me call you on that shit below....

mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> Whoever the getto trash that posted that non-33 1/3 message CAN go fuck
> themselves. Guilty untill proven innocent. This is High-School shit guys.

and this response is what?  college shit?  whatever...

> Seriously. Chill the fuck out. Im never worried about makin money back on
> our parties. And thats all that really matter. All we were tryin to do is
> bring a world class house dj to detroit but detroit dosent respect
> anything but getto booty music.

when will promoters understand "world class dj" does not necessarily = good
dj?vega is ok, from the 2 times i heard him, but i don't understand why there is
so much hype about him....
that is just me though.
last time i checked vega played some pretty fucking booty music man......

> And another thing that is really too bad
> about that tranceformers party is they were selling nitrous.

wow, how do you know this?  were the promoters selling it?  didn't you have your
own party to attend to?  so how do you know this for a fact?  sounds like shit
talking to me my friend.

> That is
> fucking sick and disgusting. That is fucking wrong and THATS WHY I DONT
> LIKE YOU!

how is it that promoters are responsible for drug dealing?  unless the promoters
are the ones selling it, i don't see how that is possible.  i am sure that there
were drugs being sold at your party, does that make you responsible for them?  no
it doesn't.furthermore, dealing (if the promoters are not involved in it) is
pretty much outside the control of the promoters.  a tank inside, the promoters
have the option to get the security to bounce the tank, but if it is going to bum
everyone out, then why ruin what could be a good thing (in the eyes of the party
attendees)?

> Im sure that party was nothing but a bunch of kids fighting
> over who gets the next baloon.

and you know this how?  weren't you busy making sure your party went good.  i
don't know any promoters that can make sure their party is going well while
checking out another party at the same time.....unless you are fucking
clairvoyant!

> We try to keep the drugs out.

yeah, and how do you do that?  like you walk around the party and bust your
friends/people you know that are selling ....gimme a fucking break.

> AND WE SHURE AS
> FUCK DONT SELL NITROUS.

you might not, but i am sure there is a possibility of someone having a tank in
the parking lot of your party.

> Give me a break, this is what makes us as
> promoters look bad. YOU make ME look BAD.

shit talking about shit you don't know about.

> Its not cool. Your not doing
> the nitrous kids a favor, your killing them.

unless they are lighting cigarrettes near them, i don't know of how the promoters
would kill the nos heads...

> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE LOOK
> ON SOMEONES FACE WHILE THEY ARE ON THAT SHIT? FUCK YOU! THEY ARE DEAD.

same can be said of any illegal drug...

> THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD. THAT IS BULLSHIT. NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU
> MAKE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH FUN THEY THINK THEY ARE HAVEING, ITS NOT WORTH
> IT.

and who are you to judge what is right and wrong for individuals who are "free"
to make a fucking CHOICE?  it is up to the individual to choose whether to do
drugs or not, not the fucking promoter.  the promoter (if you aren't selling) is
not responsible for what people choose to do at their parties.

> You people make we sick with that shit. The firehouse got shut down.
> WOW thats crazy. I mean, they are trying to destroy parties and when you
> do stupid shit like that, the more power they have against you, against
> us.

unless the promoters were physically selling the nos, how in the fuck are they
doing anything to the scene?parties get busted regardless of how far your head is
up the city's ass.  if they want it shut down, they are going to shut it down.
it don't take much.  and that is a risk you as a promoter takes everytime you
throw a party.

> We are trying to build the scene up, work with the city, give the
> city money to fund various programs. But you just make it easyer to
> destroy us. If you were a 'true' raver, if you care about the 'scene'
> look at what you have done, and what it could do. All of you people know
> what a party with nitrous is like and how it is without it. You all know
> where you would rather be. Unless your down with the raver crack. If i
> was about makein money, i could do the same thing.

it sounds like you are bitter that people chose to go to a different party rather
than yours.  you need to fucking relax and stop with this 5 year old bullshit.

> But i dont, cause i
> dont care. Whatever....

if you didn't care, then why the fuck are you talking shit and replying to posts?

do yourself a favor and shut up.

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well, i'm not huge on cleveland parties but i made an exception for this.
here's the breakdown:

good stuff:

 - matt positive, eric spex, and mc marauder -  i usually can't stand hhc,
but these guys really rocked out.  they got the crowd pumped and had a blast
up on stage.  kudos to you!
 - loop xl - i only caught the last 20ish minutes of his PA, but from what i
heard and the way the crowd was reacting i thought it went off well.  very
deep and hard.  check this guy out if you get a chance.
 - etain - spun a tec house set, which i've never heard her do before.  very
nice, especially when she dipped back into her trance rekkids.
 - lights - these were tasteful and not to much.  good for the venue,
however i think most of them are house lights anyway.

bad stuff:
 - venue - it was at peabody's down under in the flats.  now, i understand
how hard it is to find venues, but this place can fit in my pocket.  they
packed people in with a shoe-horn, so for awhile it was extremely hot and
everyone was sardine-packed together.  virtually no room to move.  once
people started to leave it became slightly better, but still very bad.
 - sound - main room was ok, but the rest of the rooms were sorely lacking.
 - red commie bastard - actually, i've heard him before and he is quite
good, but they gave this poor guy gemini 500's and a shitty mixer to spin
on!  nuff said on that.
 - vibe - i think that the poor vibe was due largely to the venue.  when its
that packed its hard to be comfortable, plus to move 10 feet you had to
knock into 65 people.  you get bumped into 900 bazillion in 15 minutes you
begin to get irritated.  plus the venue is located in the main bar-area of
cleveland, so there were a number of guys looking for 'some EX' and little
girls to take advantage of.  blah whatever.

did i have a good time?  well, it was a party.  its not like i was doing
math.  so, i guess i did. ;)

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Extreme apologies to Derek P. and Keith K.  their names were left off their
descriptions.


These guys rock!! -
                 DEREK PLASLAIKO AND KEITH KEMP - Mono Productions, Bachelor
                 DJs, DET Damn!    These guys really know what's up.
                 They spin such a versatile mix of Techno, House,
                 Acid, etc. that you can not even put them
                 in a category. No matter how wide spread their tastes
                 they always put something together that just makes the
                 crowds go nuts.


]SORRY,
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Welll, I forgot to post this the other night when I got the flyer....

Look for the flyer, cuz it's pretty god damned cool....  And I dont even
like I-Macs!!!



November 20th, 1999

    FUCK ANALOG, GO DIGITAL!!!  (Upgrade You Syst3m)
    Syst3m's 3 Year Anniversary



John Aquaviva- Definitive/ London, Ontario
(4 hr Set)


Terry Mullan- Catalyst/Chicago
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Derek Plaslaiko (Detroit Bachelor Dee Jays)
    and
Keith Kemp  (Detroit Bachelor Dee Jays)
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    Advanced Tickets Suggested
    Limited Capacity Event

    Recordtime in Fernadale and Roseville



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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> Thats real cool. Louie is a real nice guy. We did fine on the party.

i'm glad to hear that you did well despite the lack of your headliner.
it's good to see that you keep a positive outlook, even when you throw a
party featuring one dj who is scheduled to spin for most of the night, and
he doesn't show.  i mean, it's not like all the kids went there just to
see that one person, so nobody's really at a loss here, right?

i'd be curious to hear, however, how many people you actually thought you
could fool into thinking that was LLV spinning after you moved the dj
booth to a spot where it was hard to see the dj and put some other dood
on.

(this, btw, is word on the street, i'm not starting shit, just relaying it
=))

as for your standpoint on drug use at parties, i agree that nitrous is
disgusting, but your party didn't exactly feature the strictest law
enforcement either, so you have no right to be down on the tranceformers
promoters for allowing a tank inside the party.  eyewitness reports
include those of people lining up rails in the bathroom, and of security
tolerating kids rolling blunts out in the open.  i'm not saying this to
make you or your party look bad, and by no means do i look favorably upon 
most of this behavior, but i just thought i'd mention that you can't
use the tank as an argument b/c things didn't look any better at your
party.

<shrug>
~~ i was there ~~
~~ i really give a shit ~~

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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:

> .furthermore, dealing (if
> the promoters are not involved in it) is pretty much outside the
> control of the promoters.  a tank inside, the promoters have the
> option to get the security to bounce the tank, but if it is going to
> bum everyone out, then why ruin what could be a good thing (in the
> eyes of the party attendees)?
> 
 
if the lack of a nitrous tank is gonna bum everyone out, then everyone
needs to go the fuck home and make room for the ppl that just wanna listen
to some music and get down.  
and dealing of nitrous is NOT outside the control of promoters.  i mean
c'mon, a nitrous tank is pretty hard to overlook.  since the presence of a
tank can be reason enough to shut down a party, it is the promoter's
responsibility to get it the fuck outta there (unless they brought it in
themselves, which i won't even touch on), cause any of that "i had no idea
those guys were slangin nitrous, he musta snuck that tank in when i wasn't
looking" shit just ain't gonna fly.
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well...i got there around possibly 12:30-1:00-ish...ran into amanda
(iysys) first thing...=)  and then ran into nate, shiva, and the whole
indy crew immediately after that...got into the party....was $10 w/a
canned food item and a college id...which i think was a VERY nice idea...
didnt get to hear a lot of the dj sets...did hear a bit of dan efex's
set...but i was massively tired...went upstairs and sat down and conversed
for the remainder of the evening...(yes i am lazy..heheh)....

got to see joe carroll, gip, doug (didnt find annie...looked for
you though...) besides the beautiful people i formentioned....=)

the venue was interesting...not quite sure what it was (a school?...a
small one...but there were desks outside everywhere which kinda lead me to
believe it was some sort of class having place....=P)  it held the kids
well...not too big not too small....really liked the chill room, as that
was where i spent most of my time...the main room was a tiny bit hot...

i went there with two kids who had never been to a party before...and they
ended up loving it (sober too at that!) so yes there is hope...

altogether it was an interesting night....very good for ten dollars...was
just too entirely tired to enjoy it TOO much...

peace
lauryn

ps...anyone goin to pythagorean project next weekend?  rob hood and ufo!
woohooo...im there...=)

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thats right kids... KYND internet radio Omaha sucks up loads of band
width once again as we continue our efforts to make your sundays just a
wee bit more cracked out....

tonite... from 11PM-3AM CDT (note later starting time... hey we got a PPV
to watch) set those Real Players to pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra

tonie's guests:
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as always... we will be chatting live in #mw-raves on irc EfNet all
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 Hi everyone, just wondering what any of you thought of College
 in indy last night? I thought it was ok, although there was NO
 where to park at all when I got there. Security was good, considering
 it was held at like a community centre i think it was?  Oh well, 
 Dan Efex was great!  anybody else care to submit a review?

    peace.
      
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doris wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:
> if the lack of a nitrous tank is gonna bum everyone out, then everyone
> needs to go the fuck home and make room for the ppl that just wanna listen
> to some music and get down.
> and dealing of nitrous is NOT outside the control of promoters.  i mean
> c'mon, a nitrous tank is pretty hard to overlook.  since the presence of a
> tank can be reason enough to shut down a party, it is the promoter's
> responsibility to get it the fuck outta there (unless they brought it in
> themselves, which i won't even touch on), cause any of that "i had no idea
> those guys were slangin nitrous, he musta snuck that tank in when i wasn't
> looking" shit just ain't gonna fly.

yeah, i see your point.  but i can also see an oversight on the part of the
promoters...i ain't defending nitrous in any way (i think it has no place at a
party, but i ain't going to get down on anyone for using or having nitrous at
a party...a drug is a drug is a drug)...
so, i could see a promoter actually overlooking a tank, there can be
situations that are more worrisome than a tank.....like...
-making sure the dj's are where they are supposed to be
-people who were supposed to help you out, don't help you out.
-shitload of people.
-a tank circle sometimes resembles a breakdancing circle from a distance...
-too stressed to deal with it
i don't know, i can see both sides of the issue....i just don't like it when a
promoter gets on another promoter's back cuz of alleged drug selling by the
other promoter.
i have seen more parties around my parts get busted for stuff like e dealing,
lsd, and overdoses than i have for a tank.  nitrous isn't technically illegal
to use, it is illegal to sell around here, but it's like having a joint or
personal stash of weed, you get it confiscated and the cop gives you a ticket.

the fire marshall could technically shut it down due to nitrous cuz it is a
fire hazard.....
it could be different in your neck of the woods, that is just how it is here.

> **doris**



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>yeah, i see your point.  but i can also see an oversight on the part of the
>promoters...i ain't defending nitrous in any way (i think it has no place
at a
>party, but i ain't going to get down on anyone for using or having nitrous
at
>a party...a drug is a drug is a drug)...
>so, i could see a promoter actually overlooking a tank, there can be
>situations that are more worrisome than a tank.....like...
>-making sure the dj's are where they are supposed to be
>-people who were supposed to help you out, don't help you out.


Well, thats why you only work with people who you TRUST!



>-shitload of people.


Ummm.....



>-a tank circle sometimes resembles a breakdancing circle from a distance...


What?????



>-too stressed to deal with it


Shouldnt be throwing parties then!!!!


derek.

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Well well.....
After a month of school work and other garbage, I was finally back at a
party.  The last MPLS party I was at was Apocalypse, so I was definately
looking forward to this one.

I got there around 10:30 and the place was already getting stuffy.  A
lot of kids were sitting around upstairs and I couldn't figure out why
at first.  Once I went downstairs, then I understood.  The basement
reminded me of some sorta Dungeon.  I couldn't see more than 10ft in
front of me at one point and when I looked up at the ceiling it was
covered with cobwebs.  The floor was uneven and cracked in some areas,
so it was definately and ankle twister.  The DJ's even played behind
these prison bars which added to the whole Dungeon effect.  If it wasn't
so damn stuffy down there, I think I would have actually liked it more.
Then again, it sorta reminded me of the basement in my old house and
brought back some good memories.
Most of my night was spent upstairs acquainting myself with the whole
Minneapolis crowd.  Had some interesting converstations about
relationships, drugs, and even bathroom habits...(hmmmm.... :)
I actually met a raver from River Falls and I finally met one more
person from the list..... Joe!! damn you're short boy...and Happy
Birthday I might add!  :D

I'd do more of a music review, but I didn't hear more than 15min of
anyone's set.  It was just way to hard to breath down in that basement
(even when I wasn't dancing).  From upstairs just about everything
sounded decent tho....
I did get to dance to most of Fleak's set.  By that time a lot of people
had left and I could actually dance without bumping into someone every
five seconds.  It seemed like the music would cut out a lot at random
times during some of the sets.  I think it had something to do with that
extension cord they had going upstairs....not sure tho.....
All in all I had a great time and was even suprised as to how much
energy I had towards the end of the party.
Definatly looking forward to Jacobs Ladder, but I just hope Allied
Substructure chooses a different venue.

Props goes out to all the Minneapolis kids (I hope I can remember all
your names) and of course Allied Substructure for their hard work in
throwing together this party.

Ryan
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since u asked....

>> you think that Matt Positive sucks?  NO, He's OK
>>Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? YES
<<you think Disco D sucks? HELL YES!!! He's really bad.
>>How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight.  NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS 
OUTSIDE THIS LIST
>>Jethrox.  GOOD
>> Joe Carroll,  SUCKS
>> .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt Demmon, Chad
 Sponholz, Trunk,   NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS OUTSIDE THIS LIST.
>>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD
>> DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, REALLY GOOD.

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At 19:54 26-9-99 -0400, you wrote:

> >>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD

I actually suck really good. When was the last time you saw me suck?

Eye-D

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--- Eye-D <Eye-D@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
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> > >>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD
> 


woah wait a second...i missed some important ass
e-mail. Could someone let me know why i suck this time
other than the obvious reason of being a russian
commie trance dj?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 00:43:47 1999
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Weren't you like leaving or something?
Now don't be an ass and go back on your word, seeing
as you know everything and are so credible.
(Gee i wish i could be as cool as RobertC)

--- RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> since u asked....
> 
> >> you think that Matt Positive sucks?  NO, He's OK
> >>Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? YES
> <<you think Disco D sucks? HELL YES!!! He's really
> bad.
> >>How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight.  NEVER
> EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS 
> OUTSIDE THIS LIST
> >>Jethrox.  GOOD
> >> Joe Carroll,  SUCKS
> >> .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt
> Demmon, Chad
>  Sponholz, Trunk,   NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS
> OUTSIDE THIS LIST.
> >>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD
> >> DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, REALLY GOOD.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 02:12:38 1999
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Hey kidz....hope everyone had a good time at Tranceformers.  I tried to meet 
as many of you as possible but the only person I saw was Doris (Wsup 
girllll!!).  Maybe next time I'll meet some of ya.

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After a long day of working my new job (Urban Outfitters, baby!) I was tired, 
kinda cranky and in not much of a partying mood.  The fact that I had to work 
this morning also contributed to that mood..  but I had already bought a 
ticket, and Tanya was going.  We decided to stay no later than 3.
Space:
An actual warehouse, very cool!  I wish it had been more ventilated and that 
the steps were a bit more "stable", but I'm not going to complain about that 
much, because it was pretty rad.
Music:
I saw 10 minutes of Madkid.  That's it.  But I like Madkid, and he was 
playing the track that first made me take interest in him. Whoo...
People:
MW-Raves would have had a field day at this party.  An over-abundance of 
Candy ravers, and the entire first floor was one big E-Pile.  I was offered 
meth by a 14 year old!  Yeeeahh!  While outside and BSing with the security 
and Tanya, a girls parents came and got her.  I had to laugh at that one.
I met Rachel off the list.  Hi  :)
Saw all the usuals... Luke, Brandon, Matt, Adam (Freak/Boy.. cracka ass 
cracka) Caroline, Raver1420.. blah blah blah
**Brandon--  I still want to get a copy of your tape.  Forgot to ask you 
about that last night.**
My favorite conversation of the evening:
"Want to buy a roll?"
"No thanks"
"Fuck you!"

Well... the evening was a little iffy.  I had a nice time outside with the 
people at the door.  I enjoyed Madkid for the small amount of time.  Being 
offered meth by a 14 year old  (yeah, I actually know this girl) was really 
sad.  I have a 13 year old brother and if he was into shit like that...  
daaaaamn, I'd have his ass!

Jen (Sixtybus)
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 03:29:40 1999
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Does anybody know the name of the DJ who was spinning
progressive trance at Insomnia on Friday?

Thanx,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 03:32:51 1999
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>sad.  I have a 13 year old brother and if he was into shit like that...
>daaaaamn, I'd have his ass!

i'll "have his ass" even if he's not into meth!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 03:38:05 1999
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CHEMICAL BROTHERS
Saturday, Oct. 2nd
main room at Roy Wilkins Auditorium-St. Paul/ Minneapolis

other Djs...

James Holroyd-UK
Dj Icey-Miami
Mindrive-Madison
Jack Trash-Minneapolis

goes till 3 am on a big system with tonz of lights!


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-----Original Message-----
From: RobertC4me@aol.com <RobertC4me@aol.com>
To: demmon@students.uiuc.edu <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>;
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Date: Sunday, September 26, 1999 7:55 PM
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>since u asked....
>

>>>Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? YES



FUCK YEAH!!!   'BOUT TIME somebody else realized it!!!!


derek.


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So what your reply boils down to, monkey boy, is that you have never heard
of 3/4 of the DJs on this list and therefore have no ability to make a
good opinion.  So your statement that 'most of the djs on this list suck'
is purely solid body excretion exuding from your vocal orifice.
~~Something, of course, that this list is lacking in... greatly.~~

heh heh, fuck you all, I'm gonna use 'em... --->  ~~

Not that I'm not pretty damn blatant with my sarcasm..

~~Every raver on this list sucks monkey-boy's orifice!!!  I have proof!~~

*joy*

Kale/DreamSequence
p.s... it's ok Robert "monkey boy" C., I haven't heard of myself outside
this list either.  Luckily, I haven't heard of you...  I have too many
lost causes in my life as it is.

Weren't you leaving?



 On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com
wrote:

> since u asked....
> 
> >> you think that Matt Positive sucks?  NO, He's OK
> >>Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? YES
> <<you think Disco D sucks? HELL YES!!! He's really bad.
> >>How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight.  NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS 
> OUTSIDE THIS LIST
> >>Jethrox.  GOOD
> >> Joe Carroll,  SUCKS
> >> .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt Demmon, Chad
>  Sponholz, Trunk,   NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS OUTSIDE THIS LIST.
> >>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD
> >> DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, REALLY GOOD.
> 
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On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, JT wrote:

> CHEMICAL BROTHERS
> Saturday, Oct. 2nd
> main room at Roy Wilkins Auditorium-St. Paul/ Minneapolis


~~ Ah shucks... gonna have to miss it... really wanted to be there to see
them~~

Ewww.  If they would please play there stuff from like 2 years ago, then
maybe.  
Ah well.
*shrug*

Kale/DreamSequence


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From: RobertC4me@aol.com


NOTE: I said "almost" all the DJs suck.  Yeah, I think Spree
sucks.  Paul J 
 is OK though.


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Little louie does NOT play booty music. I do happen to know that they 
were in fact selling raver crack at that other party. How do i know? i 
have friends. I cant watch the security guys, i dont know if they let 
people do drugs. As far as that goes i dont tolerate it at all. And my 
friends dont sell drugs so i wouldnt have to kick them out. and if i 
found out they were, i would kick them out. They would get over it im shure.

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, jared griffith wrote:

> ok, so let me get your previous post straight....
> you don't like shit talking, it ain't cool, and it gets everyone nowhere, right?
> so let me call you on that shit below....
> 
> mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:
> 
> > Whoever the getto trash that posted that non-33 1/3 message CAN go fuck
> > themselves. Guilty untill proven innocent. This is High-School shit guys.
> 
> and this response is what?  college shit?  whatever...
> 
> > Seriously. Chill the fuck out. Im never worried about makin money back on
> > our parties. And thats all that really matter. All we were tryin to do is
> > bring a world class house dj to detroit but detroit dosent respect
> > anything but getto booty music.
> 
> when will promoters understand "world class dj" does not necessarily = good
> dj?vega is ok, from the 2 times i heard him, but i don't understand why there is
> so much hype about him....
> that is just me though.
> last time i checked vega played some pretty fucking booty music man......
> 
> > And another thing that is really too bad
> > about that tranceformers party is they were selling nitrous.
> 
> wow, how do you know this?  were the promoters selling it?  didn't you have your
> own party to attend to?  so how do you know this for a fact?  sounds like shit
> talking to me my friend.
> 
> > That is
> > fucking sick and disgusting. That is fucking wrong and THATS WHY I DONT
> > LIKE YOU!
> 
> how is it that promoters are responsible for drug dealing?  unless the promoters
> are the ones selling it, i don't see how that is possible.  i am sure that there
> were drugs being sold at your party, does that make you responsible for them?  no
> it doesn't.furthermore, dealing (if the promoters are not involved in it) is
> pretty much outside the control of the promoters.  a tank inside, the promoters
> have the option to get the security to bounce the tank, but if it is going to bum
> everyone out, then why ruin what could be a good thing (in the eyes of the party
> attendees)?
> 
> > Im sure that party was nothing but a bunch of kids fighting
> > over who gets the next baloon.
> 
> and you know this how?  weren't you busy making sure your party went good.  i
> don't know any promoters that can make sure their party is going well while
> checking out another party at the same time.....unless you are fucking
> clairvoyant!
> 
> > We try to keep the drugs out.
> 
> yeah, and how do you do that?  like you walk around the party and bust your
> friends/people you know that are selling ....gimme a fucking break.
> 
> > AND WE SHURE AS
> > FUCK DONT SELL NITROUS.
> 
> you might not, but i am sure there is a possibility of someone having a tank in
> the parking lot of your party.
> 
> > Give me a break, this is what makes us as
> > promoters look bad. YOU make ME look BAD.
> 
> shit talking about shit you don't know about.
> 
> > Its not cool. Your not doing
> > the nitrous kids a favor, your killing them.
> 
> unless they are lighting cigarrettes near them, i don't know of how the promoters
> would kill the nos heads...
> 
> > HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE LOOK
> > ON SOMEONES FACE WHILE THEY ARE ON THAT SHIT? FUCK YOU! THEY ARE DEAD.
> 
> same can be said of any illegal drug...
> 
> > THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD. THAT IS BULLSHIT. NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU
> > MAKE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH FUN THEY THINK THEY ARE HAVEING, ITS NOT WORTH
> > IT.
> 
> and who are you to judge what is right and wrong for individuals who are "free"
> to make a fucking CHOICE?  it is up to the individual to choose whether to do
> drugs or not, not the fucking promoter.  the promoter (if you aren't selling) is
> not responsible for what people choose to do at their parties.
> 
> > You people make we sick with that shit. The firehouse got shut down.
> > WOW thats crazy. I mean, they are trying to destroy parties and when you
> > do stupid shit like that, the more power they have against you, against
> > us.
> 
> unless the promoters were physically selling the nos, how in the fuck are they
> doing anything to the scene?parties get busted regardless of how far your head is
> up the city's ass.  if they want it shut down, they are going to shut it down.
> it don't take much.  and that is a risk you as a promoter takes everytime you
> throw a party.
> 
> > We are trying to build the scene up, work with the city, give the
> > city money to fund various programs. But you just make it easyer to
> > destroy us. If you were a 'true' raver, if you care about the 'scene'
> > look at what you have done, and what it could do. All of you people know
> > what a party with nitrous is like and how it is without it. You all know
> > where you would rather be. Unless your down with the raver crack. If i
> > was about makein money, i could do the same thing.
> 
> it sounds like you are bitter that people chose to go to a different party rather
> than yours.  you need to fucking relax and stop with this 5 year old bullshit.
> 
> > But i dont, cause i
> > dont care. Whatever....
> 
> if you didn't care, then why the fuck are you talking shit and replying to posts?
> 
> do yourself a favor and shut up.
> 
> --
> -jared (a.k.a. dj nickel)
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> 
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 08:43:22 1999
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Well "Zodiac" was okay i had a fun time dancing and all....i mean with my 
hoody on and everything...i was one sweaty muthafucka..haha but yeah spent 3 
hours of my time in front of the speaker so know i can't get the ringing to 
stop...haha(i am a tard for being that close) but yeah the people were fine 
and the venue sucked but hey thats a wharehouse party for ya hot and stuffy 
and no room to dance haha anyways i thought i would share my whole view on 
the party.   ~Hilary~

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Im sorry, i just have more of a thing against nitrous and other things. I 
cant think of anything i hate more. I would rather goto a rodeo and eat 
corndogs than see someone do nitrous. thats just how i am. Little Louie 
did show up. He was there for a while before the party started warming up 
and setting up his nifty turntable rubber band suspension thingie heh =D. 
But when he was ready to go on his manager wanted 2100 bucks more. I mean 
im shure we could have rounded up the extra cash if everyone wasnt 
sucking down poison at studio 59. Someone died in that very same building 
doing the same thing most people there were doing on saterday night, its 
very sad. Thiers lots of other great dj's and producers i want to bring 
into detroit. but after a response like this to louie, i dont know if 
thats possible. mabye its just about who has the biggest flyer.

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, doris wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:
> 
> > Thats real cool. Louie is a real nice guy. We did fine on the party.
> 
> i'm glad to hear that you did well despite the lack of your headliner.
> it's good to see that you keep a positive outlook, even when you throw a
> party featuring one dj who is scheduled to spin for most of the night, and
> he doesn't show.  i mean, it's not like all the kids went there just to
> see that one person, so nobody's really at a loss here, right?
> 
> i'd be curious to hear, however, how many people you actually thought you
> could fool into thinking that was LLV spinning after you moved the dj
> booth to a spot where it was hard to see the dj and put some other dood
> on.
> 
> (this, btw, is word on the street, i'm not starting shit, just relaying it
> =))
> 
> as for your standpoint on drug use at parties, i agree that nitrous is
> disgusting, but your party didn't exactly feature the strictest law
> enforcement either, so you have no right to be down on the tranceformers
> promoters for allowing a tank inside the party.  eyewitness reports
> include those of people lining up rails in the bathroom, and of security
> tolerating kids rolling blunts out in the open.  i'm not saying this to
> make you or your party look bad, and by no means do i look favorably upon 
> most of this behavior, but i just thought i'd mention that you can't
> use the tank as an argument b/c things didn't look any better at your
> party.
> 
> <shrug>
> ~~ i was there ~~
> ~~ i really give a shit ~~
> 
> **doris**
> 
> 

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hey how come nobody thought I sucked? I guess I'm not really a part of this
list after all? (sigh)
oh well. =)

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nah
playstation is a genuine cocksucker
he's made in detriot built to last, made to handle the tuff times

otherhand .com  he's a farmboy with a ghetto attitude
get the corncob outta your ass farmboy

but last night on real audio when .com was bustin on st louis that was some
funny stuff mate.   "st louis is so candy it's like a toys r us exploded"

i dont know havent been to st louis for a few years.
peace to the st louis massive

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woah....i am impressed. Not only was I honorably
mentioned in that cocksmoker's email as one of the
sucking dj's on this list, but also my name was
mentioned next to Eye-D's. WOO HOO!! I will become a
superstar one of these days after all =) and with
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 12:23:22 1999
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 12:58:41 1999
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> Little Louie 
> did show up. He was there for a while before the party started warming up 
> and setting up his nifty turntable rubber band suspension thingie heh =D. 
> But when he was ready to go on his manager wanted 2100 bucks more. I mean 
> im shure we could have rounded up the extra cash if everyone wasnt 
> sucking down poison at studio 59.

eh?  what does rounding up the cash to have LLV play have to do w/ a
buncha fools doing nitrous on the other side of detroit?  i don't quite
see the connection there...
"i'm sorry, we couldn't afford to have our headliner go on because kids
were doing nitrous over at studio95.  and the stars were aligned such that
saturn was in the sign of the cancer, partially eclipsing the moon at
4:13am, so you gotta understand, there was no way for us to get the
money."

> very sad. Thiers lots of other great dj's and producers i want to bring 
> into detroit. but after a response like this to louie, i dont know if 
> thats possible. mabye its just about who has the biggest flyer.

you got that right.  if i can't fit the flyer in my pocket, you can be
sure that i'll be at that party.  i usually laminate them and use them as
placemats, it makes for quite an avey decor at your apartment.

what response to louie are you talking about?  do you mean to say that he
didn't play because not enough ppl showed up?  what the fuck kinda
bullshit is that?!?  and what kinda response did you expect when there are
2 full-scale parties in one city the same night??  i don't think the low
turnout (i myself heard it was packed, but what do i know) was a result of
detroit's lack of appreciation for good music, but rather a result of
people having different tastes and some preferring the music presented at
the other party over that presendted at yours.  i think it's bullshit to
*not* want to bring in good acts just because you might get a low turnout.
give the ppl that *did* come an amazing show, word will be sure to spread.
**doris**



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i'm sorry i have to step in...jerry is a very good friend of mine and i 
can't sit back and do this.. the party was the shit. and i have never heard 
you putting down any other parties cuz of nitrous. you are only talking shit 
because his party blew yours away. but talking down on that just makes you 
look stupid. and i'm kinda with you on the nitrous thing. it's stupid, but a 
lot of people do it. you can't talk down on every person here, ya know. why 
do you have to bash one of the best parties of the year, just because his 
put yours to shame? i thought that's how it works (being a production 
company). you win some and then you loose some. and another thing you are 
the only one bitching about the nitrous....
sam

and another thing i heard that little louie vega refused to go on because 
there was only like 150 ppl there.....

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Im sorry, i just have more of a thing against nitrous and other things. I
cant think of anything i hate more. I would rather goto a rodeo and eat
corndogs than see someone do nitrous. thats just how i am. Little Louie
did show up. He was there for a while before the party started warming up
and setting up his nifty turntable rubber band suspension thingie heh =D.
But when he was ready to go on his manager wanted 2100 bucks more. I mean
im shure we could have rounded up the extra cash if everyone wasnt
sucking down poison at studio 59. Someone died in that very same building
doing the same thing most people there were doing on saterday night, its
very sad. Thiers lots of other great dj's and producers i want to bring
into detroit. but after a response like this to louie, i dont know if
thats possible. mabye its just about who has the biggest flyer.

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, doris wrote:

 > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:
 >
 > > Thats real cool. Louie is a real nice guy. We did fine on the party.
 >
 > i'm glad to hear that you did well despite the lack of your headliner.
 > it's good to see that you keep a positive outlook, even when you throw a
 > party featuring one dj who is scheduled to spin for most of the night, 
and
 > he doesn't show.  i mean, it's not like all the kids went there just to
 > see that one person, so nobody's really at a loss here, right?
 >
 > i'd be curious to hear, however, how many people you actually thought you
 > could fool into thinking that was LLV spinning after you moved the dj
 > booth to a spot where it was hard to see the dj and put some other dood
 > on.
 >
 > (this, btw, is word on the street, i'm not starting shit, just relaying 
it
 > =))
 >
 > as for your standpoint on drug use at parties, i agree that nitrous is
 > disgusting, but your party didn't exactly feature the strictest law
 > enforcement either, so you have no right to be down on the tranceformers
 > promoters for allowing a tank inside the party.  eyewitness reports
 > include those of people lining up rails in the bathroom, and of security
 > tolerating kids rolling blunts out in the open.  i'm not saying this to
 > make you or your party look bad, and by no means do i look favorably upon
 > most of this behavior, but i just thought i'd mention that you can't
 > use the tank as an argument b/c things didn't look any better at your
 > party.
 >
 > <shrug>
 > ~~ i was there ~~
 > ~~ i really give a shit ~~
 >
 > **doris**
 >
 >

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In a message dated 9/26/99, 7:55:49 PM, RobertC4me@aol.com writes:
<<since u asked....

>> you think that Matt Positive sucks?  NO, He's OK
>>Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? YES
<<you think Disco D sucks? HELL YES!!! He's really bad.
>>How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight.  NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS 
OUTSIDE THIS LIST
>>Jethrox.  GOOD
>> Joe Carroll,  SUCKS
>> .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt Demmon, Chad
 Sponholz, Trunk,   NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS OUTSIDE THIS LIST.
>>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD
>> DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, REALLY GOOD.


Yeah! I'm not even mentioned! I rock!!
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This is some serious fucking cat fight over here!
I put 50 bux on the guys who had tranceformers.
Anybody else want to bet anything?

misha

--- Sam Merrill <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> i'm sorry i have to step in...jerry is a very good
> friend of mine and i 
> can't sit back and do this.. the party was the shit.
> and i have never heard 
> you putting down any other parties cuz of nitrous.
> you are only talking shit 
> because his party blew yours away. but talking down
> on that just makes you 
> look stupid. and i'm kinda with you on the nitrous
> thing. it's stupid, but a 
> lot of people do it. you can't talk down on every
> person here, ya know. why 
> do you have to bash one of the best parties of the
> year, just because his 
> put yours to shame? i thought that's how it works
> (being a production 
> company). you win some and then you loose some. and
> another thing you are 
> the only one bitching about the nitrous....
> sam
> 
> and another thing i heard that little louie vega
> refused to go on because 
> there was only like 150 ppl there.....
> 
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ok, i think you suck....youre the reason i moved away from louisville, 
damned louipimps!
;) say hi to pixie!
**lora**


>hey how come nobody thought I sucked? I guess I'm not really a part of this
>list after all? (sigh)
>oh well. =)
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In a message dated 9/25/99, 4:47:15 PM, IguanaJKN@aol.com writes:
<< Kids going to 
their first party as a candy kid, no respect for anyone, all about the drugs 
and not music/dancing/vibe.  The midwest is where its at.  Just cause we 
aren't the biggest, or have the most drugs, or the most popular DJs, we dont 
suck by anymeans.  >>


Not to bust anybody's bubble...but drugs are a big part of the scene. I don't 
like it, but it's a fact. I'm not being saracastic this time. The problem is 
that people tend to get fucked up way too much. To the point where half of th 
eparty is floored. "E-puddless"...fuck that shit.

I have no answers to a problem that is a choice of an idividual. All I hope 
is that people know thier limit, don't over due the chemical intake and maybe 
realize that being marginalyl fucked up is being better than passing out and 
puking.

Maybe I just don't know.

I suck.

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I went, i heard, i was schooled. (well, not really, but it sounded
cool...)

i wasn't going to go to this party because i had the flu...but i was
feeling better, and my wife basically dragged me outta the house...

venue: the cornelius arts center. this space was used for Jade
about a month ago, and it sucked, so i was very worried...but leave it to
the Funk boys to make it look and work well!!! they put the 2nd room in
the large hallway (which did sorta fukk with the traffic flow at times,
but wasn't too bad), added fans all over the venue, and kept crazy ass
cornelius away from bothering the kids too much by bringing in off-duty
cops. (they were super friendly...and even went around listening to
music!)

lights: light fantastik (aka joe carroll) made the venue look good as
well. last time a party was held here, you had minimal lights and a
STROBE. ???? no one wants that... but joe's little yag lasers and couple
of intelligent lights worked so very well!!! :)

sound: upstairs was good...pretty even...  downstairs was way too strong
on the mids/highs...matt bandy's saxophone tracks nearly killed me!

music:
- tsar: sounded good. i was sick, and didn't really feel like groovin
much, so i really didn't stay down there too long, but misha was rockin it
for the 1/2 hour i was down there! pussy ass! (and i got a tape...review
is promised..)
- gizzmo: woohoo!!! SUBterror squad member spun some damn nice
tracks...too bad the party was still sparse...i like jungle. :)
- dan efex: all over the range...as usual! he did a damn good job mixing
all different styles...and kept the crowd dancing! and for the first time,
i saw a breaker i actually liked to watch...
- joe carroll - DDR!!! snappy drummy hard trance...tracks were so good!
too bad it was a bit too early for it, but i loved it!
- and i will say it now: MATT BANDY IS GOD. he is. no, really! he has a
halo, the whole nine yards.... this boy did some scary things...watching
him spin is a pleasure, and HE MADE MY SICK ASS WANNA DANCE! TO HOUSE!! so
you know he's a bad-ass...the only other time i really danced was to
dan's set...

oh yeah, and topspeed is lame. we call him slowspeed. not that i could
beat juggle, but if you're gonna try it in public, do it right, eh? i am
bored with hip-hop at parties...

anyways, this party was fun as hell, even though i was like the walking
dead. damn good value, and a great time from FUNK! 

saw: misha's candy ass, the hottie in the red tanktop who wanted to grind
with misha (misha sandwich!!!), shiva, adam jay, lauryn, joe c., gumby (as
in little green ball of clay), becky, the funk gang, dan efex, matt "just
match up the records" bandy, and numerous other people including some damn
scary-ass candykids.

COMING SOON!!! Best Dressed... 10/30/99 Indy
Dan Doormouse!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!


bom shankar!
--varsha

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Subject: RE: [mw] To the 33.1/3 person(s)
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~~I wish everyone would just stop this petty arguing...can't we just all get
along?~~
Holy shit...I don't wanna be left out of this one...looks like this'll be
the best cat-fight this year...Misha, I'll see that 50 bux and raise you a
flashlight, an electric mixer, cake mix, 2 trout (one male and one female)
and a rug (I really love that rug...it ties my whole room together...)

~~PLUR~~
Any other takers?
~~///D@/\/|3L\\\~~
"Quotes suck." - anonymous

(hypothetical question: if you begin a sarcastic statement (~~) but want to
exclude a sentance or 2 from being taken as sarcastic can you ~~, or would
that be a double sarcasm indicator (like a double negative)
ahhh, to hell with it...this whole ~~ thing is just light years beyond
me...you guys are just too damn hi-tech for the rest of us
not-up-to-date-on-the-latest-email-wording-and-typed-word-emotion-indicator
ravers...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org
> [mailto:mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Mikhail Khaimov
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 8:10 AM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] To the 33.1/3 person(s)
>
>
> This is some serious fucking cat fight over here!
> I put 50 bux on the guys who had tranceformers.
> Anybody else want to bet anything?
>
> misha
>
> --- Sam Merrill <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > i'm sorry i have to step in...jerry is a very good
> > friend of mine and i
> > can't sit back and do this.. the party was the shit.
> > and i have never heard
> > you putting down any other parties cuz of nitrous.
> > you are only talking shit
> > because his party blew yours away. but talking down
> > on that just makes you
> > look stupid. and i'm kinda with you on the nitrous
> > thing. it's stupid, but a
> > lot of people do it. you can't talk down on every
> > person here, ya know. why
> > do you have to bash one of the best parties of the
> > year, just because his
> > put yours to shame? i thought that's how it works
> > (being a production
> > company). you win some and then you loose some. and
> > another thing you are
> > the only one bitching about the nitrous....
> > sam
> >
> > and another thing i heard that little louie vega
> > refused to go on because
> > there was only like 150 ppl there.....
> >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 14:07:44 1999
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From: varsha <varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu>
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okay. i always promise to review stuff, but this time i am...

DJ Tsar - "Future Primitive"

what can i say, misha is a pimp. and needs to change his tape title to
reflect this...

side A: after a long cracked out day when i had to go to work, i put this
in...i immediately lifted up and laughed! annie (who pretty much "hates"
trance, but likes misha's tapes for some reason) was likewise 
impressed.... there is some very pretty stuff on here. and one wicked
drummy track. side A = ace!!!

side B: on my way to work, i threw this in...and i'm listening right now.
i have zoned out so much that people have been yelling my name, and i
don't know it... getting me to groove at 9am is a thing of legend! (and
well, Kay Cee's "Escape" doesn't hurt...)

all in all, i'm floored...go buy this now!!! WOOOHOOO!!!!!

<dance dance dance>

bom shankar!
--varsha

~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~
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the kingpin dancefloor melee mayhem! 
I'm like the high priest dj! I'm the
Dr. Booty...kids in Vancouver are 
tagging my name all over the damn
freeway!"

-Olly of "Sifl & Olly"

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GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!
I suck too, why doesn't someone tell me how bad I suck.
I played D&D friday, spun saturday, and played D&D again on sunday

TELL ME I DON'T SUCK WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!

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	-----Original Message-----
	From:	FreakBoy [SMTP:kasjogren@hotmail.com]
	Sent:	Monday, September 27, 1999 9:35 AM
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	GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!
	I suck too, why doesn't someone tell me how bad I suck.
	I played D&D friday, spun saturday, and played D&D again on sunday

	TELL ME I DON'T SUCK WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!

	Adam Sjogren
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>From the people that brought you Back 2 Basics, Boom, We Are Family, 
Showdown, All in the Family, and Kick it

***WE***
October 9, 1999
Chicago, IL. USA

We are back.  Once again Dust Traxx is bringing you another high quality/low 
cost event.  Featuring extraordinary talent from around the world, we intend 
on showing the universe where our scene is coming from and where it is 
headed.   Bring your whistles, drums, stickers, costumes, bells, and good 
vibes.

featuring::

T H O M A S  B A N G A L T E R
–Three Hours on Three Tables
--Roulle, Scratche, Virgin (Paris, France)
We are proud to welcome house music extraordinaire Thomas Bangalter to 
Chicago for his first Midwest appearance in over two years.  From Daft Punk 
anthems such as “Around the World,” “Da Funk,” and “Rollin’ n Scratchin’;” 
to the Stardust sensations “The Music Sounds Better With You” and  “Gym ‘n 
Tonic” Thomas has perhaps been the most influential person affiliated with 
house music in the past couple years.  Come together as we welcome him back 
to the home of House, with his last North American underground appearance of 
the millennium.

O R G A N  G R I N D E R
-Live Performance
--High Octane, Organ Beat (Chicago)
This rising star has quickly become a major player in the international 
techno scene, and we are thrilled to include him in the line-up. Performing 
live on a Roland electronic drum kit, this performance is something that 
absolutely cannot be missed.   Nothing this innovative has ever been done at 
a Chicago event before and this promises to be the most talked about 
performance of 1999.

W A X M A S T E R
–Performing Live
--Dancemania, Mix Connection Media, Underground Construction (Chicago)
One of the original old skoolers  Mr. Wax has been Djing since 1983, and 
producing records since the early 90’s.  Performing live with turntables and 
drum machines for the first time ever in an underground setting, this man 
has been a major influence on the likes of Paul Johnson, DJ Funk, and many, 
many others.  Join us as we proudly welcome him into our family.

R O B E R T  A R M A N I
–Two Decks, Effects and a 909
--High Octane, Dancemania (Chicago)
Pulling no punches, this original jacker is ready to floor you with his very 
rare live performance.  The last time he did this was in Germany at Mayday, 
1993.   Truly a legend in his own time, we are honored to have Sir Robert be 
a part of this event.

C R A I G  A L E X A N D E R
-Dust Traxx Chicago (Chicago)
A rising star in Chicago and beyond, Craig won the world over with his debut 
E.P. off the Dust Traxx imprint "Buckwild in Bucktown."  With upcoming 
releases "Groove Mission Remixes," and "The Power of the Groove" on the 
horizon, look for him to blow up in the year 2000.

A C E T A T E
-High Octane Recordings (Chicago)
A midwest favorite for over five years now, Acetate has enough experience to 
know exactly what the crowd wants.  Expect everything from funky techno to 
blistering acid house to upbeat disco house from this man.

Doors open at 9pm.  Arrive early to assure entrance.
$10 before 11
$15 after

--Thousands and thousands of ice-cold oranges and apples will be passed out 
throughout the night to refresh all of your taste buds!!!

---Bring your drums, tambourines, and percussive instruments for an all out 
drum circle!!!

VENDING
All vending will be provided by the original Midwest crew, Sole Unlimited 
Chicago.  A major supporter of the Chicago underground since 1993, expect 
plenty of your favorite drinks, snacks, glowsticks, music, and toys 
available at reasonable prices.

SOUND
Log2 is bringing out their full arsenal of ear pounding, wall shattering 
sound for all your dancing feet.  Six blocks of relentless sound, set up in 
a circle, pulsating subsonic waves 360 degrees around the stage!!!

LIGHTS
Mark Martin will be providing a custom installation of cyberlights, 
technobeams and dataflashes for a 360 degree spectacle you don’t want to 
miss.

GUEST LIST
Guest List requests must be made by 10/2/99 via fax at 773.539.8569.  If you 
do not receive a call back from us you are NOT on the list.

TICKETS
Tickets will be available the day of the event at Supreme Records (4159 N 
Milwaukee Ave.) for $10.  Call 773.862.7047 for more information.  A presale 
ticket ensures a quick and painless entrance into the event.

SPACE
A secure, legal 14,000 square foot venue has been acquired for the evening.  
There will be ample parking for everybody.  Right Of Admittance Reserved.

BUS TRIPS/HOTEL INFORMATION
All inquiries about bus trips or lodging should be sent to 
info@dusttraxx.com.  You may also leave a message at 312.409.0618.

PROMOTIONAL HELP
We are looking for out of state promotional assisstence.  If you are 
interested in helping us please call and leave a message with appropriate 
contact info at 773.509.2977.

F O R  M O R E  I N F O R M A T I O N
773.509.2977
312.409.0618
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Hey Guys could a promotion company suck to? Because I think that we suck
here at Havoc Detroit.


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> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	FreakBoy [SMTP:kasjogren@hotmail.com]
> 	Sent:	Monday, September 27, 1999 9:35 AM
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> 	GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!
> 	I suck too, why doesn't someone tell me how bad I suck.
> 	I played D&D friday, spun saturday, and played D&D again on sunday
>
> 	TELL ME I DON'T SUCK WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!
>
> 	Adam Sjogren
> 	a.k.a. FreakBoy
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http://www.sheriffleefl.org//admin/resource/crimeprev/JUDICIAL.htm
<http://www.sheriffleefl.org//admin/resource/crimeprev/JUDICIAL.htm> 
 
Okay, if my addy didn't give it away, I work for the state( The Justice
Department no less. Now that's some funny shit. And I don't want to hear "aw
man, he's a pig" from any of you!). ordinarily I don't take much of an
interest in crap that I get sent from various people who work here, but this
is STOOPID! Be afraid, be very afraid!



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so did anyone like it? i had a good time, but im not sure why..
looking back, for the *caliber* of the talent that was there the music was 
unimpressive (except for dieselboy, who kicked ass)
the lights were well, to say the least, mediocre....the sound could have 
been ok if it hadnt been turned down so low that you could have a 
conversation in front of the *wall-o-sound*
im not even going to talk about the E-puddles...
maybe im too old cynical and all around bitchy.....but at least im cute**
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Hi everyone!

*basking on my lovely day off*   :)

Just thought I'd share my thoughts on what was the best party of my LIFE 
with y'all.  :)

First...let's quit the drama.  I'm quite disgusted that Little Louis's ego 
has blown up the way it has...but what are you gonna do.  It's not the 
promoters' fault if Little Louis decided not to play. (which doesn't 
surprise me.  LL already blew off Detroit earlier this summer...at least he 
had the decency to show up this time...)

Also, it's NOT about who's party "blew the other's away"...it's about just 
having a good time.  Parties can, and have and hopefully still will, exist 
on the same night and have great turnouts for both!  Get over the whole 
competition shit!

OK...now onto the greatest party I've attended so far!  First off...I have 
to say that I absolutely LOVED the space at Studio 95!!  I know some people 
think it's small...but for my tastes and preferences...I thought it was a 
great room!  The decor was very VERY cool.  The minimal decorations added to 
the "spacey" ambience of Trance.  :)

The vibe was very cool at this party, despite the fact that there were a lot 
of undercovers there.  My one friend Jim had a female cop that kept 
following him around all night.  Not cool....some dude even padded Jim down 
twice on the floor (the first time he acted like he just bumped into him 
(while conveniently rubbing over Jim's pockets)...and the second time 
without any stealth whatsoever, he just padded his head to feel for shit 
under his knit-hat!)

The Love was real at this party!  This was only my 4th Detroit party but 
already so many people came up to me and were re-introducing themselves from 
other parties!  I was SOOOO overwhelmed by the love/vibe at this 
party!!!!!!!!!  Jerry, that's the FIRST prop to you!

The folks:  Ok...shout out time!  NEVERENDING love from the bottom of my 
heart goes out to Paul Doyle, Igor (from MW-Trance), Doris, Griggles, Jeff 
(from MW-Trance), Defunkt0r, Elizabeth, Doyle, Matt, Kevin (from Port 
Huron), Devon and all the other familiar faces that I've unfortunately 
forgotten your names, for making this entire weekend the most magical and 
beautiful time of my LIFE!!!!  I knew that even amidst all this apparent 
political bullshit in Detroit that a good party could still happen and it 
DID!!!  Jerry...that you're SECOND prop!

Adrienne....I'm sorry I missed you!  We kept missing each other by a few 
minutes at Doris's table!  :(

For anyone that was there and don't know who I am....I was wearing phat 
pants, with a grey t-shirt, white YAGA hat and my pacifier necklace 
consisted of huge fuzzy/fur beads and flourescent beads.  :)

Note:  I've seen plenty of good dancers....but lemme just say that when our 
own Mr. Paul Doyle decides to let it go.....BAM BABY!!!!  He works it like 
noone I've seen!  His moves are the most original and beautiful that I've 
seen in a LONG time!!!  You da man baby!  :)  Also, Igor (from MW-Trance) 
decided to try liquid dancing for the first time (of his own 
admission)...and can I just say (and Paul can testify) that when Igor took 
off....he TOOK OFF.  So many people around Igor just stopped to watch the 
beauty of his moves!  Mr. Man...never stop throwing those sticks!

The lineup was incredible....the only dj I wasn't able to catch was DRC.  
Can anyone give a review?  The rest of the jocks were just incredible!  The 
energy just did NOT STOP building!  Jerry...3rd major prop!!!!!!

Finally....thanks to everyone who partied safe and observed the buddy 
system.  It's a great feeling knowing that I'll be able to see you all again 
at another party and not have to read about anything unfortunate!  Everyone 
that I got a chance to meet was very intelligent and safe about their 
partying...MAJOR PROPS TO YOU ALL!!!

My Only Gripe:  was the fact that they had to stop the music to get that car 
removed from the alley.  The vibe had JUST taken off with the trance and 
then BOOM...big slap...but I'm just glad the car was moved quickly!  :)

Okie dokes!  I'm outta here til tonight!

One Family, One Love, One Peace.

Love,

Jim

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far be it from me to think that anyone  here might appreciate these, but I
liked them, and I thought perhaps there might be a possibility...and while
not directly rave-related, physics is related to everything, so it is sort
of rave related.

yeah.
http://www.aps.org/apsnews/limericks.html

plus, not all of them are physics-related, just all are written by
phycisists.

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You don't suck with a straight face.  It's usually kinda puckered a bit.

suck suck suck.


EEEEEEEEEEEHEHEHEHEHeee... hoo.

hee
Kale/DreamSequence

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:

> GOD DAMNIT!!!!!!!
> I suck too, why doesn't someone tell me how bad I suck.
> I played D&D friday, spun saturday, and played D&D again on sunday
> 
> TELL ME I DON'T SUCK WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!
> 
> Adam Sjogren
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Please direct all your love (and NO hate) emails to
me.  Especially if you are young hotties who enjoy
bouncing to pussy ass trance (like the one who wanted
a Misha sandwich at College).

On a more serious subject, I got in a fresh shipment
of my new tapes, so if any of ya want some please
email me privately and I'll let u know how to get it.
I am sure you are sick of all the reviews by now and
wanna hear it yourself just to see what all the noise
is about =)


Misha with a big ass ego =)

p.s. i should have the whole message in ~~'s
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At 04:55 27-9-99 -0700, you wrote:

>Not only was I honorably mentioned in that cocksmoker's email as one of 
>the sucking dj's on this list, but also my name was mentioned next to 
>Eye-D's. WOO HOO!!

Before long limos and five star hotels be a regularity in your life, son.

>I will become a superstar one of these days after all =) and with Spree's 
>help i'll soon be playin HHC all across america =) Watch out 14 yr old 
>candy sluts!

Hey! I didn't know there were 14 year-olds involved. Now I want in for 
real. I do still have a about a bag full of older happy hardcore...

I feel really bad for all DJs that weren't mentioned in 
RobertCocksmoke4me's e-mail. Sorry.

Eye-D

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Acid funk for that ass with that California class our shit is out there 
(this song started earlier into Chris liberator's set then ended an hour 
later, i swear!)

Wow, what can i say this party was musically intense as hell. I couldn't 
tell who was playing most the night after N.9 & Dan Deliverance except for 
Chris Liberator because i was jamming to hard. I only knew that Chris 
Liberator was playing because i could not believe the beats being thrown 
down and had to go look if that was someone spinning or doing a live pa. 
Everyone I heard was ultra tight, N.9 up to the end with Liberator. 
Absolutely amazing acid techno/trance.  I totally felt like i was in a 
London break-in going balls out to some acid, i was 'avin  it as they say 
over the pond. I wish I wasn't feeling so shy and would have came up to the 
whole punk floyd crew and told them just how much I appreciated their 
music, it totally blew my mind. I haven't had that much fun for a long 
time. Its hard to express into words what this party was but it was 
amazing, thanks Syceda Rhythm for putting it on, maybe i can be more 
concise once more reviews flow in :) It was magic thats for sure :)

love & light,


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Excuse me, who are you?
Are you sure you're on the right list?

=)

Nah, _I_ say you suck.  Really bad.  Matter of fact, you're the worst I've
ever heard.  Not that I've ever heard you, but hey, that doesn't change
the fact that you suck!

hee
Kale/DreamSequence

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> hey how come nobody thought I sucked? I guess I'm not really a part of this
> list after all? (sigh)
> oh well. =)
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oh my god, is every single dj/producer/promoter on this list that wasn't
mentioned in that fool's email gonna ask if they suck too now??

YES, YOU ALL SUCK!

now shut up.




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Hey, listen here little ms. suckier than thou.  They have every right to
request verification of their suckage ranking.  You cannot develop a base
for sound decision making if you are unaware of your own self-worth.  The
suckage rating scheme allows those of us not already secure in our true
suckability to proceed in life with a firmer grasp of our station and
worth.
So back up off o' dem homey!  
You realize, of course, that you've seriously jeopardized your suck-queen
status with the email below.  Any more outbursts like that from you, and
we're gonna lock you in a room with 50 rolling candy kids, and you'll have
nothing to wear except a full body suit of cashmere and really soft fake
fur.
heh hehhhhhhhh!

Kale/DreamSequence

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> mentioned in that fool's email gonna ask if they suck too now??
> 
> YES, YOU ALL SUCK!
> 
> now shut up.
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So.....Do any of you know how to get ahold of John the Dentist?? Much thanks 
for any help.

Go on living your lives now
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Well, I am just a raver, not a dj, or a promoter, or anything of that sort.
And that my friends is the lowest of all sucking.
I SUCK!
-stumpalumpagus

hahaha lets see you all tpo that 1

DreamSequence wrote:

> Hey, listen here little ms. suckier than thou.  They have every right to
> request verification of their suckage ranking.  You cannot develop a base
> for sound decision making if you are unaware of your own self-worth.  The
> suckage rating scheme allows those of us not already secure in our true
> suckability to proceed in life with a firmer grasp of our station and
> worth.
> So back up off o' dem homey!
> You realize, of course, that you've seriously jeopardized your suck-queen
> status with the email below.  Any more outbursts like that from you, and
> we're gonna lock you in a room with 50 rolling candy kids, and you'll have
> nothing to wear except a full body suit of cashmere and really soft fake
> fur.
> heh hehhhhhhhh!
>
> Kale/DreamSequence
>
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, doris wrote:
>
> > oh my god, is every single dj/producer/promoter on this list that wasn't
> > mentioned in that fool's email gonna ask if they suck too now??
> >
> > YES, YOU ALL SUCK!
> >
> > now shut up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I said I was thinking about it...  I'll think hard about it just for you...

> Weren't you like leaving or something?
>  Now don't be an ass and go back on your word, seeing
>  as you know everything and are so credible.
>  (Gee i wish i could be as cool as RobertC)

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why don't you think extra hard for me too.....maybe your brain will explode
and it'll save you the effort

pixie


> I said I was thinking about it...  I'll think hard about it just for
you...
>
> > Weren't you like leaving or something?
> >  Now don't be an ass and go back on your word, seeing
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>>Note:  I've seen plenty of good dancers....but lemme >>just say that when
our 
>>own Mr. Paul Doyle decides to let it go.....BAM >>BABY!!!!  He works it
like 
>>noone I've seen!  His moves are the most original and >>beautiful that
I've 
>>seen in a LONG time!!!  You da man baby!


awww, shucks...your gonna give me a reputation now  :)


Big, big thanks again to ya Jim.  For getting me at the airport, giving me a
place to crash, etc.  Your pretty cool even though you tried to make me wear
that candy necklace thingy.  It's all good though...maybe someday I won't be
too macho to wear it.  

For the first time I gave up my straight edge ways and decided to partake in
the festivities.  I finally got it.  I understand it now.  I know why people
hug speakers, give hugs, give massages, rub my bald head, sniff rapo-rub,
why etards sit in the middle of the dance floor...because they are rude and
stupid...there were a couple of times that I just wanted to drop into a
puddle but I always made sure I parked it against a wall.  At parties when i
get handed a flier I usually read it and then I just crumple it up and toss
it onto the floor but at the party I bent over and made sure that I gently
placed the flier on the floor.  That was the only cracked out kinda thing I
did.  The biggest thing I got from it was from the come down.  I was feeling
bad, wonder how I could hate myself and other people, etc.  I talked myself
through it and realized that the bad low was just as real/unreal as the
happy high...and that i was totally free to choose which one I wanted in my
life.  I choose happy.  and I will choose happy everyday of my life from
here on out!  I may or may not ever do it again and I will be totally happy
with either one.  If I do it again, it will be without any goal or purpose
other than to experience whatever I happen to experience and to be cool with
that.  Very awesome! :)

shouts to the peeps I met...my party pals...Jim, Slim Jim and Igor...Doris,
Greg, ravesafe Jeff and Matt.  My experience would not have been the same if
anyone of you were not there.  Thanks for being there!  

peace and love

Paul

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All of us are the candykid versions of the US women's soccer team..." I too
will suck..."

	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Barney Rubble [SMTP:stumpyky@aye.net]
	Sent:	Monday, September 27, 1999 11:45 AM
	To:	DreamSequence
	Cc:	doris; ravelings
	Subject:	Re: [mw] Three MW-Raves Secrets

	Well, I am just a raver, not a dj, or a promoter, or anything of
that sort.
	And that my friends is the lowest of all sucking.
	I SUCK!
	-stumpalumpagus

	hahaha lets see you all tpo that 1

	DreamSequence wrote:

	> Hey, listen here little ms. suckier than thou.  They have every
right to
	> request verification of their suckage ranking.  You cannot develop
a base
	> for sound decision making if you are unaware of your own
self-worth.  The
	> suckage rating scheme allows those of us not already secure in our
true
	> suckability to proceed in life with a firmer grasp of our station
and
	> worth.
	> So back up off o' dem homey!
	> You realize, of course, that you've seriously jeopardized your
suck-queen
	> status with the email below.  Any more outbursts like that from
you, and
	> we're gonna lock you in a room with 50 rolling candy kids, and
you'll have
	> nothing to wear except a full body suit of cashmere and really
soft fake
	> fur.
	> heh hehhhhhhhh!
	>
	> Kale/DreamSequence
	>
	> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, doris wrote:
	>
	> > oh my god, is every single dj/producer/promoter on this list
that wasn't
	> > mentioned in that fool's email gonna ask if they suck too now??
	> >
	> > YES, YOU ALL SUCK!
	> >
	> > now shut up.
	> >
	> >
	> >
	> >
	> > -
	> > questions about this mailing list?
	> > http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
	> >
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Robert, Robert, Robert; you must have a dick stuck in your ear because you
arent thinking right.
If you step on Jons toes, he might put all of his body weight on your head,
causing it to split open and shards of your minute amount of brains to
splatter all over this list. 
why dont you just leave now while you still can.
later
benjamin
THE SAINT LOUIS ASSHOLE CONTINGENT

----------
> From: RobertC4me@aol.com
> To: j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com; demmon@students.uiuc.edu;
mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] Three MW-Raves Secrets
> Date: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:33 AM
> 
> I said I was thinking about it...  I'll think hard about it just for
you...
> 
> > Weren't you like leaving or something?
> >  Now don't be an ass and go back on your word, seeing
> >  as you know everything and are so credible.
> >  (Gee i wish i could be as cool as RobertC)
> 
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hmm...
first off, a side note.  does anyone have an extra flier for "freaks of
the industry" they'd be willing to send me?

now, on to the review...
have thought long and hard about this one.  
let's start with things i liked:
-everyone seemed pretty friendly.  at least, i didn't meet anyone who was
outright scary.  and i had some interesting conversations.  
-they didn't run out of water by the time i left (but i left by five
so....)
-the djs were okay until about four or five when the really dark, hard,
relentless trance came on.  i was tired and needed some energy, but that
didn't work.  otherwise the djs did all right.  i think thomas michael has
spun a better set or two in his life tho.  
-doris gave me a hug when i introduced myself.  *blush*
-thanks to sam for her hospitality and friendliness.
-the cool night air when i left was more refreshing than doublemint gum.
-did anyone hear when mars (or maybe it was mystre--oh for a a
posted dj lineup) played that fucked-up track with the warped
voice?  that's on one of his tapes and i've always liked it.  i was
very excited to hear it!!!
-i hear it was the promoters first party.  they did all right and should
do some more parties of about the same size.

now things i had a hard time with:
although it was a pretty good party, i have to admit that i felt kind of
uncomfortable there.  the space was very small, and i like a party with at
least two rooms--so that if you get tired of one room (the music, people,
whatever), you can go take a break in the other room.  it was also not a
very friendly space--concrete walls and concrete floors...  

there were also a lot of people there (in proportion to the size of the
venue), which was fine, except that it was causing me to be very very hot.
what's up with turning the water off in the bathrooms?  after dancing for
a while or shaking the hands of about fifty sweaty strangers, i'd like to
wash my hands.  

i wish they had posted a dj lineup somewhere...  or maybe they did but i
had a hard time getting up close to the booth.  i had to dance near the
back most of the time because the dance space was so crowded.  

i also kept expecting that with the nitrous and the number of people and
so forth, the cops were gonna bust in any second and we'd all have to go
home.  i'm glad that didn't happen but it was always on my mind.  

i would definitely like to party in detroit again.  but hopefully have a
different experience, just to get some variety in my life.  trance all
night was pretty cool, but it made me realize how important it is to me to
be able to hear a variety of music (jungle, house, even hardcore)
throughout the night to keep up my energy level and interest.  

-sarah



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In a message dated 9/26/99 10:38:18 PM Central Daylight Time, 
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<< Mw-raves@hyperreal.org >>
Just a reminder that the chemical brothers will be in St. Louis on september 
30!!!!  
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See folks!  
Now this one you just GOTTA wonder if there was supposed to be a couple
" ~~ " marks somewhere in there!

Kale/DreamSequence


On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 Vent6@aol.com wrote:
Just a reminder that the Chemical brothers are playing.
>  
> just wanted to know how many people are planing on going


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Ok, so I'm not good at reviews, but here goes:

Space-the venue was pretty cool, but as someone else noted, they could've 
had more than one room.  I was so hot!  I don't know what's up with shutting 
off the water in the bathrooms, maybe cuz me and my friends kept filling our 
water bottles?  :-)  I loved the big screens and the lights....I wasn't 
crazy about the concrete floors.  Was it just me or did everyone else keep 
slipping on something wet on the floor??

Music-this was the first time I've experienced Trance.  It was pretty cool, 
but kinda different to dance to.  I'm not as up to par with knowing all 
about the djs, but they sounded pretty cool.  They kept me dancing until 
some idiot had to move their car.

People-I saw a lot of people I knew, and met a lot of new people.  Jim, I 
was looking for you but I guess I missed ya!  Maybe next time? Tell me when 
you're gonna be in Detroit again....I got a hug from Doris too!  Everyone 
else I might have met by bumping into them, but hello anyways!  I felt 
really good vibes all party.  I thought this was a pretty energetic crowd.  
The only thing that sucked was trying to find a place to rest for a few 
minutes.  People lined the walls like wallpaper.  But it's cool....

Anyways, I had a great time, maybe I will meet some of you other folks soon. 
  Anyone going to We Collect Info?  Lemme know!

Peace always,
  Adrienne

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Yay! Lights! Lots of lights!

Matt

On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, JT wrote:

> CHEMICAL BROTHERS
> Saturday, Oct. 2nd
> main room at Roy Wilkins Auditorium-St. Paul/ Minneapolis
> 
> other Djs...
> 
> James Holroyd-UK
> Dj Icey-Miami
> Mindrive-Madison
> Jack Trash-Minneapolis
> 
> goes till 3 am on a big system with tonz of lights!
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Not only does Derek SUCK, but for a about ten dollars extra he'll, well..
Maybe I should let you all find out for yourselves. he usually hangs out by 
the secret "back door" at Club Paradise...


>From: "Derek Plaslaiko" <plaslaik@ix.netcom.com>
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Martin <theworm@evansville.net>
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>Date: Sunday, September 26, 1999 11:32 PM
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>
>
> >http://raporg.reck.com/mmedia/index.html
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here it is, my review on M2

the pros...

Word to the KC scene...for getting word out on such a late notice about the 
whole info line thing

word to cha cha cha...for letting sycada use their voice mail

word to the talent...everyone kicked my ass all over

word to the vibe...nice and thick and spead like butta

word to the cops...for being SO cool and understanding with the people 
outside

word to sitting around before the party havin an beer with ddr and chris 
liberator

word to chris...for sharing his humis with me

word to fans...it was ht as fuck and they helped some

word to everybody I met...very cool kids

word to the stl and omaha and Iowa kids who showed up...thanks for coming

word to the after party...I haven't seen anything THAT ghetto for a long 
time...settin up turn tables on a car and picnic tables and finding power 
was phun...

word to justin gault...nice visuals

word to the funniest thing I have seen in a long time...ROLAND THE BASTARD 
DRUNK...he shoots off bottle rockets, hits on girls, and mixes like a 
madman...

word to anything else I forgot...

the cons

word against the lights...I just needed more than par cans...

word against fights...there wasn't one but I had to keep one from 
happening...

word aginst the infoline...nothing could be done but the party still went 
off

word against hot venues...the floors were sweating

word agains $2 small waters...glad I didn't have to pay for mine

word against my car bein janky...I NEED that thing...it gets me places


well, I think thats it...if you missed it word aginst you...

later
dylan

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----Original Message Follows----
From: Efasting@aol.com
To: kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com
Subject: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:35:02 EDT


SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!


Hello Detroit,
INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear some
stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that was
brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other party....I wont
say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever was commenting in the
earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the party, well simple 
put....That
was the only thing you could find to BITCH about. Which is really funny when
it was your people who got into my party and started selling it!!!!!!! That
fucking blows me away.
I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as
promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would
loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED 
EVERYONE
WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY IS SLOWING
BRINGING IT ALL BACK

  THANK YOU,

                       INFINITY ENT

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As far as I'm concerned, if there isn't two 60-pound, a 30-pound and three 
or four 20 pound tanks running simultaneously, the party isn't even worth 
the 45 cents I spent on gas to get there.


>From: mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com
>Reply-To: mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com
>To: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
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>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:32:39 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Im sorry, i just have more of a thing against nitrous and other things. I
>cant think of anything i hate more. I would rather goto a rodeo and eat
>corndogs than see someone do nitrous. thats just how i am. Little Louie
>did show up. He was there for a while before the party started warming up
>and setting up his nifty turntable rubber band suspension thingie heh =D.
>But when he was ready to go on his manager wanted 2100 bucks more. I mean
>im shure we could have rounded up the extra cash if everyone wasnt
>sucking down poison at studio 59. Someone died in that very same building
>doing the same thing most people there were doing on saterday night, its
>very sad. Thiers lots of other great dj's and producers i want to bring
>into detroit. but after a response like this to louie, i dont know if
>thats possible. mabye its just about who has the biggest flyer.
>
>On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, doris wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:
> >
> > > Thats real cool. Louie is a real nice guy. We did fine on the party.
> >
> > i'm glad to hear that you did well despite the lack of your headliner.
> > it's good to see that you keep a positive outlook, even when you throw a
> > party featuring one dj who is scheduled to spin for most of the night, 
>and
> > he doesn't show.  i mean, it's not like all the kids went there just to
> > see that one person, so nobody's really at a loss here, right?
> >
> > i'd be curious to hear, however, how many people you actually thought 
>you
> > could fool into thinking that was LLV spinning after you moved the dj
> > booth to a spot where it was hard to see the dj and put some other dood
> > on.
> >
> > (this, btw, is word on the street, i'm not starting shit, just relaying 
>it
> > =))
> >
> > as for your standpoint on drug use at parties, i agree that nitrous is
> > disgusting, but your party didn't exactly feature the strictest law
> > enforcement either, so you have no right to be down on the tranceformers
> > promoters for allowing a tank inside the party.  eyewitness reports
> > include those of people lining up rails in the bathroom, and of security
> > tolerating kids rolling blunts out in the open.  i'm not saying this to
> > make you or your party look bad, and by no means do i look favorably 
>upon
> > most of this behavior, but i just thought i'd mention that you can't
> > use the tank as an argument b/c things didn't look any better at your
> > party.
> >
> > <shrug>
> > ~~ i was there ~~
> > ~~ i really give a shit ~~
> >
> > **doris**
> >
> >
>
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Does anyone know how to get a hold of Monica or Tanya from the Viktor House?  
Any info would be greatly appreciated!  Please email me privately...
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Hey, I just wanted to say hi to all my good friends
that I haven't been in touch with in a long time! I
finally am back online so please get ahold of me and
say hi. Nice to be back ;-)

York

Don't forget Oct. 23rd

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Wow, is every promoter from Detroit a complete fucking idiot or what?
C'mon kids, even if they are throwing decent parties, do you really want
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PILL!!!

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    LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
    That is the biggest, fattest bunch of horseshit anyone has spewed since 
the doctor pulled you out your momma's hoochie.
The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT FROM 33 
1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
    Say what you will about nitrous, I'm not trying to justify it or 
demonize it, BUT LISTEN UP, JACKASS...
    The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much of 
newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, candy-ass, 
trance-loving, whiteboy you really are. One of those mystery men with the 
tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. And 
no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another four 
or five years and you're getting close.
    I'm tlaking about kids who werwe throwing 2,000 person parties when you 
were listening to Pearl Jam.
    I'm talking about the kidswho threw the biggest party in Detroit, ever.
    BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
    I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE 
WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE 
THEY LOVED IT.
    But you probably didn't know that, did ya...
YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
    You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.

>From: "Sam Merrill" <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Sam Merrill" <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
>To: three_eleven7@hotmail.com, jalatay@hotmail.com,  
>midwest-trance@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, RaveChat@eGroups.com
>Subject: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:27:40 GMT
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Efasting@aol.com
>To: kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com
>Subject: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:35:02 EDT
>
>
>SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!
>
>
>Hello Detroit,
>INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear some
>stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that was
>brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other party....I 
>wont
>say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever was commenting in 
>the
>earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the party, well simple
>put....That
>was the only thing you could find to BITCH about. Which is really funny 
>when
>it was your people who got into my party and started selling it!!!!!!! That
>fucking blows me away.
>I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as
>promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would
>loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED
>EVERYONE
>WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY IS SLOWING
>BRINGING IT ALL BACK
>
>  THANK YOU,
>
>                       INFINITY ENT
>
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WOW you are one jaded guy, and I thought minneapolis had alot of useless 
drama, thanks for making me feel better about my city guys =)

Before you reply, Im not even from the midwest so no, i don't have any idea 
(nor do i car) what your old skool was like, Ive never done meth, I don't 
live in the suburbs, but yes I do like trance (sorry if that means I'm not 
cool enough for you, it's already been determined that I suck!)



>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>To: kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com, three_eleven7@hotmail.com, 
>jalatay@hotmail.com,  midwest-trance@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, 
>RaveChat@eGroups.com
>Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:45:54 EDT
>
>    LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
>    That is the biggest, fattest bunch of horseshit anyone has spewed since
>the doctor pulled you out your momma's hoochie.
>The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT FROM 
>33
>1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
>    Say what you will about nitrous, I'm not trying to justify it or
>demonize it, BUT LISTEN UP, JACKASS...
>    The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much of
>newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, candy-ass,
>trance-loving, whiteboy you really are. One of those mystery men with the
>tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. And
>no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another four
>or five years and you're getting close.
>    I'm tlaking about kids who werwe throwing 2,000 person parties when you
>were listening to Pearl Jam.
>    I'm talking about the kidswho threw the biggest party in Detroit, ever.
>    BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
>    I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE
>WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE
>THEY LOVED IT.
>    But you probably didn't know that, did ya...
>YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
>    You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
>
>>From: "Sam Merrill" <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: "Sam Merrill" <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
>>To: three_eleven7@hotmail.com, jalatay@hotmail.com,
>>midwest-trance@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, RaveChat@eGroups.com
>>Subject: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:27:40 GMT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: Efasting@aol.com
>>To: kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com
>>Subject: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:35:02 EDT
>>
>>
>>SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!
>>
>>
>>Hello Detroit,
>>INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear some
>>stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that was
>>brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other party....I
>>wont
>>say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever was commenting in
>>the
>>earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the party, well simple
>>put....That
>>was the only thing you could find to BITCH about. Which is really funny
>>when
>>it was your people who got into my party and started selling it!!!!!!! 
>>That
>>fucking blows me away.
>>I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as
>>promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would
>>loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED
>>EVERYONE
>>WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY IS SLOWING
>>BRINGING IT ALL BACK
>>
>>  THANK YOU,
>>
>>                       INFINITY ENT
>>
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>One of those mystery men with the 
>tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. 
And 
>no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another 
four 
>or five years and you're getting close.

Richie Hawtin?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 19:56:07 1999
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And here it is again... all this back-biting is why I quit going to parties
in the first place. Even in this "e-collective" nobody gets along. On the
individual level, some of the kids are okay. To most, it's about getting
their drugs for the evening, fuck you very much. Superficiality reigns
supreme, and a lot of the kids don't know about "hard times" (i.e. working
for a living and not milking the parentals for green). Don't get me wrong, I
know everyone is superficial to some degree, and I like drugs as much, if
not more than the next, but I'm not down with the petty nonsense that goes
along with all of this. Collectively, we suck (but I think we went through
all that earlier). This is just my interpretation of the situation...

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	Don't get me wrong, I'm not directing this at individuals. Everyone
helps to perpetuate it, to some degree or another. Right now, it's this
issue @ this party, next week same circumstances, different field and
players. It's been this way for a long time, and it's not like it's going to
change just because I said "hey, this sucks", but I couldn't let it go by
without at least commenting.

	Now for something totally different: Does anyone know where I can
locate a copy of "Music for the Jilted Generation" on vinyl? I know it's a
longshot, but I figured I'd try anyway. Peace

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Sam Merrill [SMTP:kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com]
		Sent:	Monday, September 27, 1999 3:00 PM
		To:	JDay@CJI.State.IN.US
		Subject:	Re: [mw] Vicious...

		please don't think i'm vicious, cuz i'm really not. i'm just
sticking up for 
		my friend who wanted this party to be the best. and i feel
that it was. and 
		people are bashing him, and not even knowing him...


		Luv ya, talk to you later
		Sam

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 20:11:31 1999
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Hey now I love shit talking but who got me involved
into all this? :) Read that fucking sentence
below...it's about as Misha as it gets ;)

misha


>     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids
> just proves how much of 
> newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy,
> suburban, candy-ass, 
> trance-loving, whiteboy you really are. 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 20:17:02 1999
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you're not white, you're russian 

;P

pixie
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> Hey now I love shit talking but who got me involved
> into all this? :) Read that fucking sentence
> below...it's about as Misha as it gets ;)
> 
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I just need to know what the kidz on this list think about a Message board 
for ravers?  Let me know if you like the idea, or think it is stupid.  Also 
if there is already a message board for ravers somewhere.
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I will shut up now. You people fail to make the connection in anything i 
say. its a shame. Im not mad at the tranceformers kids, ogh never mind. 
Yes i am. I got recived a forwarded email from my friend. Its one of the 
tranceformers kids saying that my crew took a nitrous tank into his party 
without permission. We had nothing to go with anything going on over 
there. we did in fact have our own party to deal with. Here is the 
message he sent out. Its too bad we had to get off ti suck a bad start. 
ogh well.

SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!


Hello Detroit,
INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear 
some stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that 
was brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other 
party....I wont say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever 
was commenting in the earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the 
party, well simple put....That was the only thing you could find to BITCH 
about. Which is really funny when it was your people who got into my 
party and started selling it!!!!!!! That fucking blows me away.
I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as 
promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would 
loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED 
EVERYONE WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY 
IS SLOWING BRINGING IT ALL BACK

 THANK YOU,

                      INFINITY ENT

Well the truth is the tank was brought by a couple promoters you all may 
look up to. Im not going to say who. This is a blatent lie on behalf of 
Mr Tranceformers. Think what you want. Whatever, nobody will ever get it 
figure it out it seems. 

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Daniel Nelson wrote:

> ~~I wish everyone would just stop this petty arguing...can't we just all get
> along?~~
> Holy shit...I don't wanna be left out of this one...looks like this'll be
> the best cat-fight this year...Misha, I'll see that 50 bux and raise you a
> flashlight, an electric mixer, cake mix, 2 trout (one male and one female)
> and a rug (I really love that rug...it ties my whole room together...)
> 
> ~~PLUR~~
> Any other takers?
> ~~///D@/\/|3L\\\~~
> "Quotes suck." - anonymous
> 
> (hypothetical question: if you begin a sarcastic statement (~~) but want to
> exclude a sentance or 2 from being taken as sarcastic can you ~~, or would
> that be a double sarcasm indicator (like a double negative)
> ahhh, to hell with it...this whole ~~ thing is just light years beyond
> me...you guys are just too damn hi-tech for the rest of us
> not-up-to-date-on-the-latest-email-wording-and-typed-word-emotion-indicator
> ravers...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org
> > [mailto:mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org]On Behalf Of Mikhail Khaimov
> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 8:10 AM
> > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: [mw] To the 33.1/3 person(s)
> >
> >
> > This is some serious fucking cat fight over here!
> > I put 50 bux on the guys who had tranceformers.
> > Anybody else want to bet anything?
> >
> > misha
> >
> > --- Sam Merrill <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > i'm sorry i have to step in...jerry is a very good
> > > friend of mine and i
> > > can't sit back and do this.. the party was the shit.
> > > and i have never heard
> > > you putting down any other parties cuz of nitrous.
> > > you are only talking shit
> > > because his party blew yours away. but talking down
> > > on that just makes you
> > > look stupid. and i'm kinda with you on the nitrous
> > > thing. it's stupid, but a
> > > lot of people do it. you can't talk down on every
> > > person here, ya know. why
> > > do you have to bash one of the best parties of the
> > > year, just because his
> > > put yours to shame? i thought that's how it works
> > > (being a production
> > > company). you win some and then you loose some. and
> > > another thing you are
> > > the only one bitching about the nitrous....
> > > sam
> > >
> > > and another thing i heard that little louie vega
> > > refused to go on because
> > > there was only like 150 ppl there.....
> > >
> > __________________________________________________
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Steve here is my new best friend. =D heheh bout time someone backed me up 
on this shit. Thanks.

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:

>     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
>     That is the biggest, fattest bunch of horseshit anyone has spewed since 
> the doctor pulled you out your momma's hoochie.
> The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT FROM 33 
> 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
>     Say what you will about nitrous, I'm not trying to justify it or 
> demonize it, BUT LISTEN UP, JACKASS...
>     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much of 
> newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, candy-ass, 
> trance-loving, whiteboy you really are. One of those mystery men with the 
> tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. And 
> no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another four 
> or five years and you're getting close.
>     I'm tlaking about kids who werwe throwing 2,000 person parties when you 
> were listening to Pearl Jam.
>     I'm talking about the kidswho threw the biggest party in Detroit, ever.
>     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
>     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE 
> WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE 
> THEY LOVED IT.
>     But you probably didn't know that, did ya...
> YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
>     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
> 
> >From: "Sam Merrill" <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: "Sam Merrill" <kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com>
> >To: three_eleven7@hotmail.com, jalatay@hotmail.com,  
> >midwest-trance@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, RaveChat@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
> >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:27:40 GMT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: Efasting@aol.com
> >To: kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com
> >Subject: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
> >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:35:02 EDT
> >
> >
> >SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!
> >
> >
> >Hello Detroit,
> >INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear some
> >stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that was
> >brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other party....I 
> >wont
> >say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever was commenting in 
> >the
> >earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the party, well simple
> >put....That
> >was the only thing you could find to BITCH about. Which is really funny 
> >when
> >it was your people who got into my party and started selling it!!!!!!! That
> >fucking blows me away.
> >I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as
> >promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would
> >loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED
> >EVERYONE
> >WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY IS SLOWING
> >BRINGING IT ALL BACK
> >
> >  THANK YOU,
> >
> >                       INFINITY ENT
> >
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There are plenty of message boards out there. Notice I'm not on ANY of 
them. Frankly, cuz I'm too lazy.

i don't want to have to go and get the messages or look for them....i 
want all the messages to come TO ME!!!

I like email lists.....i like IRC.....I DON'T like refreshing my screen.

Message Boards SUCK!!

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 Hey, is anyone in indy goin to Pythagorean Project next saturday? I 
 was thinkin about it, but a friend of mine said he heard the promoters
 are rather shady?  Anybody know?  Just wanna make sure before I pay to
 get in and get fucked over.

   peace.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 20:29:21 1999
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i'm soo there..Rob Hood,Murat,UFO! wut more do you need????

James



At 03:28 PM 9/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Hey, is anyone in indy goin to Pythagorean Project next saturday? I 
> was thinkin about it, but a friend of mine said he heard the promoters
> are rather shady?  Anybody know?  Just wanna make sure before I pay to
> get in and get fucked over.
>
>   peace.
>
>     /shandi
>
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 20:33:41 1999
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>there were also a lot of people there (in proportion 
>to the size of the venue), which was fine, except 
>that it was causing me to be very very hot.

>what's up with turning the water off in the 
>bathrooms?  after dancing for a while or shaking the
>hands of about fifty sweaty strangers, i'd like to
>wash my hands.

This pisses me off.  I've seen this a lot at parties
around here (Chicago).  I don't want to pay two (or
four) bucks to buy water to wash my hands or cool off
after dancing in other peoples sweat (hey no anger
towards the dancers, just nice to wash off).  There's
only one foreseeable reason to turn off is to force
the purchase of bottled water.

Message to promoters/show producers - if you try and
squeeze every dollar out of every kid who shows up,
we're going to stop showing up.

Another message to promoters - Rent big fans.  Flip
the AC on if available.  Move the air around.  My
friend passed out twice last week because of the heat.
 Makes it hard to do what we do.. for everyone.

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why is it that whenever anyone asks about promoters, they say it was because
they heard they were shady? I'm not trying to trash you, and I completely
understand your concern. But making statements like that tends to put out
that impression before it's confirmed...Now someone who reads this e-mail
will say "well, I was gonna go, but now someone said that they heard someone
say that their sister said that their gramama's crack dealer said the
promoters were shady, and now i don't know"

just a thought...i have many of them, y'know =) ....thank goodness i don't
post them all to the list.

pixie


>
>  Hey, is anyone in indy goin to Pythagorean Project next saturday? I
>  was thinkin about it, but a friend of mine said he heard the promoters
>  are rather shady?  Anybody know?  Just wanna make sure before I pay to
>  get in and get fucked over.
>
>    peace.
>
>      /shandi



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Hay, so i'm here at school (Western Il. Univ.) dying to go to a party but 
chi-town is to outta reach right now, can anybody PLEASE tell me of some 
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>Message to promoters/show producers - if you try and
>squeeze every dollar out of every kid who shows up,
>we're going to stop showing up.
Unfortunately, that's not the case, otherwise epople would have stopped 
paying out their asses when shit went up to $20...

>From: "Jason R. Powers" <hardsale@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: "Jason R. Powers" <hardsale@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] re: tranceformers review
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:33:43 -0700 (PDT)
>
> >there were also a lot of people there (in proportion
> >to the size of the venue), which was fine, except
> >that it was causing me to be very very hot.
>
> >what's up with turning the water off in the
> >bathrooms?  after dancing for a while or shaking the
> >hands of about fifty sweaty strangers, i'd like to
> >wash my hands.
>
>This pisses me off.  I've seen this a lot at parties
>around here (Chicago).  I don't want to pay two (or
>four) bucks to buy water to wash my hands or cool off
>after dancing in other peoples sweat (hey no anger
>towards the dancers, just nice to wash off).  There's
>only one foreseeable reason to turn off is to force
>the purchase of bottled water.
>
>Message to promoters/show producers - if you try and
>squeeze every dollar out of every kid who shows up,
>we're going to stop showing up.
>
>Another message to promoters - Rent big fans.  Flip
>the AC on if available.  Move the air around.  My
>friend passed out twice last week because of the heat.
>  Makes it hard to do what we do.. for everyone.
>
>Jason
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and lastly, stop supporting promoters who insist on shutting off water in
order to sell it.
You all know who is doing this continuously in your town. Quit supporting
them. All they want is your money, and if they say any different, they are
lying through their teeth. Water is necessary for hydration and ultimately
survival. Dancing causes you to dehydrate. If they really wanted you to have
a good time, they'd allow free access to water to rehydrate after dancing.
Put two and two together kids and wise up.

pixie


> This pisses me off.  I've seen this a lot at parties
> around here (Chicago).  I don't want to pay two (or
> four) bucks to buy water to wash my hands or cool off
> after dancing in other peoples sweat (hey no anger
> towards the dancers, just nice to wash off).  There's
> only one foreseeable reason to turn off is to force
> the purchase of bottled water.
>
> Message to promoters/show producers - if you try and
> squeeze every dollar out of every kid who shows up,
> we're going to stop showing up.
>
> Another message to promoters - Rent big fans.  Flip
> the AC on if available.  Move the air around.  My
> friend passed out twice last week because of the heat.
>  Makes it hard to do what we do.. for everyone.
>
> Jason



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>Message to promoters/show producers - if you try and
>squeeze every dollar out of every kid who shows up,
>we're going to stop showing up.
>
>Another message to promoters - Rent big fans.  Flip
>the AC on if available.  Move the air around.  My
>friend passed out twice last week because of the heat.
> Makes it hard to do what we do.. for everyone.

I'd just like to say this......Space owners can be fuckin cocksuckers. 
They could give a shit about ravers.....they wanna make money.
There's only so much a promoter can do. But as far as renting 
industrial sized fans, that's the promoters responsibilty. Poo on you 
if you're a promoter and you don't rent fans for your party goers.

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The promoters of that event are far from shady.  The kids I know from that 
crew are real music fans.  It should be a great event & you can be assured 
that I will be there (passing out the main flyers for Insane Clown 
Midget...self promotion much).
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Suckaaaahhhh!!!

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anyone heard anything about paul oakenfold in chicago sometime in november?
heard from a friend who saw it on a flyer but since lost it so i have like
no details.
info?

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Rob Hood is GOD.
Go forth and be dealt with.
If anyone has not heard him spin before, 
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here i go again, saying something that i know is going to fall on deaf ears....

mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

> I will shut up now. You people fail to make the connection in anything i
> say. its a shame. Im not mad at the tranceformers kids, ogh never mind.
> Yes i am. I got recived a forwarded email from my friend. Its one of the
> tranceformers kids saying that my crew took a nitrous tank into his party
> without permission. We had nothing to go with anything going on over
> there. we did in fact have our own party to deal with.

your last sentence is my fucking point.  YOU had YOUR own party to deal with, so
why the fuck talk so much shit about another promoter?  i really don't get it.

> Here is the
> message he sent out. Its too bad we had to get off ti suck a bad start.
> ogh well.

and by forwarding this message out to people, you are just keepin the shit
flowing.  you could have been the bigger person and said, fuck it, whatever, and
dropped it, but no, this fucking petty ass bullshit clogs my mailbox and like 500
other people who are sick of hearing about your fucking penis envy.shut the fuck
up.
drop it.
by perpetuating this bullshit, your next party is going to have an even lower turn
out than this one, just cuz people are going to realize what a complete and total
whiny little bitch you are and not want to go.  who wants to support a drama queen
anyway?  sure as hell not me.
in case you don't understand, let it go man.
drop it...
it's all water under the bridge
what's done is done and there ain't nothing you or anyone else can do about it.
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Yo can anyone give me a full line up for Exodus in chicago this saturday. I 
know I recall:

Dj Rush
Doc Scott
Mike Dearborn
Justin Long
Submerge101
Markverbos
Snuggles

Or can I get an info line number of the crew involved please?
Thank you  :)

Chris

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Well, I've abreviated the list of mailing lists that are gonna receive
this email, cuz I'm not on any of the others... so anyway...
First off I didn't go to this party.  Never been to a party in Detroit.
Don't think I want to with a bunch of friggin' moronic (seemingly)
promotion companies that can't come together and support one another.  Ya
ya, I know, who fuckin' cares if I come... not the point.  Support your
d@mn town and all the companies that try to do a little something.  Even
if they are "here today, gone tomorrow" groups.  As long as they can thow
an event that's nice, damn, back off!    
You all can reply back and forth all day to my opinion on that, saying no
it's his fault no it's his fault no it's his fault... but please don't.  I
don't care.  
more below......

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:

>     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
> The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT FROM 33 
> 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.

Great.  So it wasn't 33-1/3.  Infinity ent was wrong.  They shouldn't o'
come out pointing fingers.  Now that's established... why should these two
that DID bring the tank have the right too?  I don't care if they were
fucking licking warehouse walls clean when I was pushing my little red
wagon down the street.  Do they feel that they should have the right to
make back all that money that they didn't make when they were 'making the
detroit scene'?  pshaww... whatever.  They shoulda asked.  They shoulda
made sure that infinity knew who they were.  And whoever it was from the
other party that was complaining about Tranceformer having tanks should be
~~all happy (since they are apparently one of the companies that have been
'around for a while'), as Infinity was apparently supporting the guys that
have been throwing parties so long that they used to hook "Pong" up to a
speaker and call it music.~~

>     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much of 
> newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, candy-ass, 
> trance-loving, whiteboy you really are. 

Hmm... so... since I would most definitely not have recognized either of
them, I'm a newbie (been partying since 92), clueless (not even going
there), here today (yup, and yesterday), gone tomorrow (sure if I crash
and die), trendy (what? whatever), suburban (what??? where the hell does 
that fit in?  You have to be from the Sahara desert to throw a party?),
candy-ass (yup just so you can lick it... mmmm mmm tasty eh?),
tranceloving (oh.. I bet that hurt the Tranceformer company..woo),
whiteboy (always good to have a little racial stuff going on, eh?).... 
Dood, get a grip.  We're talking about 2 guys selling N02 at a party...
Neither of them being you.

>One of those mystery men with the 
> tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. And 
> no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another four 
> or five years and you're getting close.

Kewl, but, this is 99.  We're talking about parties that we can all go to
now.

>     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
>     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE 
> WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE 
> THEY LOVED IT.

Kewl, now they enjoy making money by selling NO2 at parties that someone
else is spending money to throw.
Personally I don't care, NO2 rawks.  But please drop the whole 'so
offended' thing.  The only reason that the post was made was in reply to
someone saying that Infinity brought the tank.  I didn't hear you jumping
to the platform when that one was posted...

> YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
>     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
 
  Wow, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' company has made you give up on
Detroit?  While you have the godfathers of the detroit scene going to
their parties to sell NO2?  You should be bowing down to them. You should
pay $25 just to get into the party to go worship them!  
  
  Man the detroit scene is weird.  

Krazy kids.

Gotta go...

zoom.

Kale/DreamSequence


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From: Maureen Patricia McInerney <zusa@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
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Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -
alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years - after I have gone
to school.  But, I liked when there was ONE party on ONE night.  If
everyone did not have to worry about how many people they have to get (so
they charge more - plus water and parking) - the price would go down.  In
DC, we are throwing our first event for like $15 at the most.  Because
why?  We are not worried about getting 2,000 plus.
And, furthermore, with all the shit going on in Detroit at the moment with
the Gang Squad, I do not understand why SOME promotors are letting tanks
in.  That is soo smart.  It is one thing if people are fucked up on k, a,
e, c etc. because, hello, we can't check everyone's crotch - but it is
another thing to roll in 60 pound tanks.  Have a house party and do that
in some loft or something after the party.  Promotors should be trying to
further the scene, not help bring on more "negative" public images across.  
- Maureen



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Ok! I need to make a T-shirt that says this. This is too funny.

>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:44:27 -0500
>From: Josh Day <JDay@CJI.State.IN.US>
>Subject: RE: [mw] Three MW-Raves Secrets
>
>All of us are the candykid versions of the US women's soccer team..." I too
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 22:21:01 1999
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and your response and you continuing to propagate this shit, shit talking
(although indirectly) is furthering the scene how?
just drop it.
leave it alone.
futher the scene by being mature.


Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:

> Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
> Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
> RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -
> alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years - after I have gone
> to school.  But, I liked when there was ONE party on ONE night.  If
> everyone did not have to worry about how many people they have to get (so
> they charge more - plus water and parking) - the price would go down.  In
> DC, we are throwing our first event for like $15 at the most.  Because
> why?  We are not worried about getting 2,000 plus.
> And, furthermore, with all the shit going on in Detroit at the moment with
> the Gang Squad, I do not understand why SOME promotors are letting tanks
> in.  That is soo smart.  It is one thing if people are fucked up on k, a,
> e, c etc. because, hello, we can't check everyone's crotch - but it is
> another thing to roll in 60 pound tanks.  Have a house party and do that
> in some loft or something after the party.  Promotors should be trying to
> further the scene, not help bring on more "negative" public images across.
> - Maureen



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 22:53:54 1999
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check out http://www.ravers.com

.  Also 
> if there is already a message board for ravers somewhere.
> luv n huggz
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Sep 27 23:59:18 1999
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awww jees 
aint you a sweety!
your thinkin just for me, can you do somethin else for
me while your at it?
 huh sweety?

--- RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
> I said I was thinking about it...  I'll think hard
> about it just for you...
> 
> > Weren't you like leaving or something?
> >  Now don't be an ass and go back on your word,
> seeing
> >  as you know everything and are so credible.
> >  (Gee i wish i could be as cool as RobertC)
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 00:12:45 1999
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Jon Gotti and Kid Entropy suck, too. Just for the record. And so do those 
punks who run Distort. They suck shit.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 00:27:40 1999
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Wow, you felt that Maureen was talkin' shit?
I kinda liked her email.  I thought it was pretty reasonable, decently
thought out, non-personal (i.e. not directed at anyone in particular), and
she at least explained where she was coming from on stuff.
She's certainly not damaging your scene in my eyes.  

Cheers Maureen.

Kale/DreamSequence


On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, jared b griffith wrote:

> and your response and you continuing to propagate this shit, shit talking
> (although indirectly) is furthering the scene how?
> just drop it.
> leave it alone.
> futher the scene by being mature.
> 
> 
> Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:
> 
> > Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
> > Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> > UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
> > RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -
> > alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years - after I have gone
> > to school.  But, I liked when there was ONE party on ONE night.  If
> > everyone did not have to worry about how many people they have to get (so
> > they charge more - plus water and parking) - the price would go down.  In
> > DC, we are throwing our first event for like $15 at the most.  Because
> > why?  We are not worried about getting 2,000 plus.
> > And, furthermore, with all the shit going on in Detroit at the moment with
> > the Gang Squad, I do not understand why SOME promotors are letting tanks
> > in.  That is soo smart.  It is one thing if people are fucked up on k, a,
> > e, c etc. because, hello, we can't check everyone's crotch - but it is
> > another thing to roll in 60 pound tanks.  Have a house party and do that
> > in some loft or something after the party.  Promotors should be trying to
> > further the scene, not help bring on more "negative" public images across.
> > - Maureen
> 
> 
> 
> --
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YES WE DO!!!!

--- Eye-D <Eye-D@zeelandnet.nl> wrote:
> Jon Gotti and Kid Entropy suck, too. Just for the
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> punks who run Distort. They suck shit.
> 
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ST. LOUIS IS NOT CANDY!!!!!
ppppchchchchchehehehehahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
sorry I tried to say that with a straight face.
oh well, if it wasn't candy, I wouldn't have any
hienies to spank!

--- "Mike @ Full Spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:
> nah
> playstation is a genuine cocksucker
> he's made in detriot built to last, made to handle
> the tuff times
> 
> otherhand .com  he's a farmboy with a ghetto
> attitude
> get the corncob outta your ass farmboy
> 
> but last night on real audio when .com was bustin on
> st louis that was some
> funny stuff mate.   "st louis is so candy it's like
> a toys r us exploded"
> 
> i dont know havent been to st louis for a few years.
> peace to the st louis massive
> 
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IF ANYONE WENT TO THAT PARTY THIS WEEKEND IN CHICAGO
WITH PAUL JOHNSON GLENN UNDERGROUND, TIM HARPER ETC.
SPINNING CAN YOU GIVE ME A REVIEW ON IT.  THANK YOU

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In a message dated 9/27/99 5:13:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Eye-D@zeelandnet.nl writes:

<< Jon Gotti and Kid Entropy suck, too. Just for the record. And so do those 
 punks who run Distort. They suck shit.
 
 Eye-D  >>

oh great now you gotta drag us into this gay ass thread... =)

in the immortal words of freddie fox aka bumpy knuks

"rhyming is a part of my life... i'ma die with rhyming kids and a rhyming 
wife... i don't let anybody judge me who don't know how to do what i do... so 
if you don't like it then fuck you."

and that pretty much sums up my philosophy you panty waists.

entro sucks the air from your personal space until you implode.
"my dad can beat up your dad..."

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I suck, therefore I am.
I suck so bad I'm going to the digest.
No offense people, you know mommy loves you, but this is way too much mail
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Die, fuck.


>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: Steven Vansteenkiste <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>CC: midwest-trance <midwest-trance@egroups.com>,        mw-raves 
><mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:41:41 -0500 (CDT)
>
>Well, I've abreviated the list of mailing lists that are gonna receive
>this email, cuz I'm not on any of the others... so anyway...
>First off I didn't go to this party.  Never been to a party in Detroit.
>Don't think I want to with a bunch of friggin' moronic (seemingly)
>promotion companies that can't come together and support one another.  Ya
>ya, I know, who fuckin' cares if I come... not the point.  Support your
>d@mn town and all the companies that try to do a little something.  Even
>if they are "here today, gone tomorrow" groups.  As long as they can thow
>an event that's nice, damn, back off!
>You all can reply back and forth all day to my opinion on that, saying no
>it's his fault no it's his fault no it's his fault... but please don't.  I
>don't care.
>more below......
>
>On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:
>
> >     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
> > The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT 
>FROM 33
> > 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
>
>Great.  So it wasn't 33-1/3.  Infinity ent was wrong.  They shouldn't o'
>come out pointing fingers.  Now that's established... why should these two
>that DID bring the tank have the right too?  I don't care if they were
>fucking licking warehouse walls clean when I was pushing my little red
>wagon down the street.  Do they feel that they should have the right to
>make back all that money that they didn't make when they were 'making the
>detroit scene'?  pshaww... whatever.  They shoulda asked.  They shoulda
>made sure that infinity knew who they were.  And whoever it was from the
>other party that was complaining about Tranceformer having tanks should be
>~~all happy (since they are apparently one of the companies that have been
>'around for a while'), as Infinity was apparently supporting the guys that
>have been throwing parties so long that they used to hook "Pong" up to a
>speaker and call it music.~~
>
> >     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much 
>of
> > newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, 
>candy-ass,
> > trance-loving, whiteboy you really are.
>
>Hmm... so... since I would most definitely not have recognized either of
>them, I'm a newbie (been partying since 92), clueless (not even going
>there), here today (yup, and yesterday), gone tomorrow (sure if I crash
>and die), trendy (what? whatever), suburban (what??? where the hell does
>that fit in?  You have to be from the Sahara desert to throw a party?),
>candy-ass (yup just so you can lick it... mmmm mmm tasty eh?),
>tranceloving (oh.. I bet that hurt the Tranceformer company..woo),
>whiteboy (always good to have a little racial stuff going on, eh?)....
>Dood, get a grip.  We're talking about 2 guys selling N02 at a party...
>Neither of them being you.
>
> >One of those mystery men with the
> > tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. 
>And
> > no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another 
>four
> > or five years and you're getting close.
>
>Kewl, but, this is 99.  We're talking about parties that we can all go to
>now.
>
> >     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
> >     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE
> > WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE
> > THEY LOVED IT.
>
>Kewl, now they enjoy making money by selling NO2 at parties that someone
>else is spending money to throw.
>Personally I don't care, NO2 rawks.  But please drop the whole 'so
>offended' thing.  The only reason that the post was made was in reply to
>someone saying that Infinity brought the tank.  I didn't hear you jumping
>to the platform when that one was posted...
>
> > YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
> >     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
>
>   Wow, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' company has made you give up on
>Detroit?  While you have the godfathers of the detroit scene going to
>their parties to sell NO2?  You should be bowing down to them. You should
>pay $25 just to get into the party to go worship them!
>
>   Man the detroit scene is weird.
>
>Krazy kids.
>
>Gotta go...
>
>zoom.
>
>Kale/DreamSequence
>

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Wow dude. And on a public mailing list even. Let's do your PLUR rating on
a scale of 1-10!!!!

Peace    0
Love     0
Unity    0
Respect  0

No candy ass for you tonight, fucko!

Matt

P.S. IQ = 5

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:

> Die, fuck.
> 
> 
> >From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
> >To: Steven Vansteenkiste <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
> >CC: midwest-trance <midwest-trance@egroups.com>,        mw-raves 
> ><mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
> >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:41:41 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >Well, I've abreviated the list of mailing lists that are gonna receive
> >this email, cuz I'm not on any of the others... so anyway...
> >First off I didn't go to this party.  Never been to a party in Detroit.
> >Don't think I want to with a bunch of friggin' moronic (seemingly)
> >promotion companies that can't come together and support one another.  Ya
> >ya, I know, who fuckin' cares if I come... not the point.  Support your
> >d@mn town and all the companies that try to do a little something.  Even
> >if they are "here today, gone tomorrow" groups.  As long as they can thow
> >an event that's nice, damn, back off!
> >You all can reply back and forth all day to my opinion on that, saying no
> >it's his fault no it's his fault no it's his fault... but please don't.  I
> >don't care.
> >more below......
> >
> >On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:
> >
> > >     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
> > > The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT 
> >FROM 33
> > > 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
> >
> >Great.  So it wasn't 33-1/3.  Infinity ent was wrong.  They shouldn't o'
> >come out pointing fingers.  Now that's established... why should these two
> >that DID bring the tank have the right too?  I don't care if they were
> >fucking licking warehouse walls clean when I was pushing my little red
> >wagon down the street.  Do they feel that they should have the right to
> >make back all that money that they didn't make when they were 'making the
> >detroit scene'?  pshaww... whatever.  They shoulda asked.  They shoulda
> >made sure that infinity knew who they were.  And whoever it was from the
> >other party that was complaining about Tranceformer having tanks should be
> >~~all happy (since they are apparently one of the companies that have been
> >'around for a while'), as Infinity was apparently supporting the guys that
> >have been throwing parties so long that they used to hook "Pong" up to a
> >speaker and call it music.~~
> >
> > >     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much 
> >of
> > > newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, 
> >candy-ass,
> > > trance-loving, whiteboy you really are.
> >
> >Hmm... so... since I would most definitely not have recognized either of
> >them, I'm a newbie (been partying since 92), clueless (not even going
> >there), here today (yup, and yesterday), gone tomorrow (sure if I crash
> >and die), trendy (what? whatever), suburban (what??? where the hell does
> >that fit in?  You have to be from the Sahara desert to throw a party?),
> >candy-ass (yup just so you can lick it... mmmm mmm tasty eh?),
> >tranceloving (oh.. I bet that hurt the Tranceformer company..woo),
> >whiteboy (always good to have a little racial stuff going on, eh?)....
> >Dood, get a grip.  We're talking about 2 guys selling N02 at a party...
> >Neither of them being you.
> >
> > >One of those mystery men with the
> > > tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. 
> >And
> > > no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another 
> >four
> > > or five years and you're getting close.
> >
> >Kewl, but, this is 99.  We're talking about parties that we can all go to
> >now.
> >
> > >     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
> > >     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE
> > > WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE
> > > THEY LOVED IT.
> >
> >Kewl, now they enjoy making money by selling NO2 at parties that someone
> >else is spending money to throw.
> >Personally I don't care, NO2 rawks.  But please drop the whole 'so
> >offended' thing.  The only reason that the post was made was in reply to
> >someone saying that Infinity brought the tank.  I didn't hear you jumping
> >to the platform when that one was posted...
> >
> > > YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
> > >     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
> >
> >   Wow, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' company has made you give up on
> >Detroit?  While you have the godfathers of the detroit scene going to
> >their parties to sell NO2?  You should be bowing down to them. You should
> >pay $25 just to get into the party to go worship them!
> >
> >   Man the detroit scene is weird.
> >
> >Krazy kids.
> >
> >Gotta go...
> >
> >zoom.
> >
> >Kale/DreamSequence
> >
> 
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Uh, oh I guess the phonky aliens won't supercharge my roll vibes.


>From: matt <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
>Reply-To: matt <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: The MidWest Parliament <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:50:22 -0500 (CDT)
>
>Wow dude. And on a public mailing list even. Let's do your PLUR rating on
>a scale of 1-10!!!!
>
>Peace    0
>Love     0
>Unity    0
>Respect  0
>
>No candy ass for you tonight, fucko!
>
>Matt
>
>P.S. IQ = 5
>
>On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:
>
> > Die, fuck.
> >
> >
> > >From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
> > >To: Steven Vansteenkiste <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
> > >CC: midwest-trance <midwest-trance@egroups.com>,        mw-raves
> > ><mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
> > >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:41:41 -0500 (CDT)
> > >
> > >Well, I've abreviated the list of mailing lists that are gonna receive
> > >this email, cuz I'm not on any of the others... so anyway...
> > >First off I didn't go to this party.  Never been to a party in Detroit.
> > >Don't think I want to with a bunch of friggin' moronic (seemingly)
> > >promotion companies that can't come together and support one another.  
>Ya
> > >ya, I know, who fuckin' cares if I come... not the point.  Support your
> > >d@mn town and all the companies that try to do a little something.  
>Even
> > >if they are "here today, gone tomorrow" groups.  As long as they can 
>thow
> > >an event that's nice, damn, back off!
> > >You all can reply back and forth all day to my opinion on that, saying 
>no
> > >it's his fault no it's his fault no it's his fault... but please don't. 
>  I
> > >don't care.
> > >more below......
> > >
> > >On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:
> > >
> > > >     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
> > > > The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT
> > >FROM 33
> > > > 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
> > >
> > >Great.  So it wasn't 33-1/3.  Infinity ent was wrong.  They shouldn't 
>o'
> > >come out pointing fingers.  Now that's established... why should these 
>two
> > >that DID bring the tank have the right too?  I don't care if they were
> > >fucking licking warehouse walls clean when I was pushing my little red
> > >wagon down the street.  Do they feel that they should have the right to
> > >make back all that money that they didn't make when they were 'making 
>the
> > >detroit scene'?  pshaww... whatever.  They shoulda asked.  They shoulda
> > >made sure that infinity knew who they were.  And whoever it was from 
>the
> > >other party that was complaining about Tranceformer having tanks should 
>be
> > >~~all happy (since they are apparently one of the companies that have 
>been
> > >'around for a while'), as Infinity was apparently supporting the guys 
>that
> > >have been throwing parties so long that they used to hook "Pong" up to 
>a
> > >speaker and call it music.~~
> > >
> > > >     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how 
>much
> > >of
> > > > newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban,
> > >candy-ass,
> > > > trance-loving, whiteboy you really are.
> > >
> > >Hmm... so... since I would most definitely not have recognized either 
>of
> > >them, I'm a newbie (been partying since 92), clueless (not even going
> > >there), here today (yup, and yesterday), gone tomorrow (sure if I crash
> > >and die), trendy (what? whatever), suburban (what??? where the hell 
>does
> > >that fit in?  You have to be from the Sahara desert to throw a party?),
> > >candy-ass (yup just so you can lick it... mmmm mmm tasty eh?),
> > >tranceloving (oh.. I bet that hurt the Tranceformer company..woo),
> > >whiteboy (always good to have a little racial stuff going on, eh?)....
> > >Dood, get a grip.  We're talking about 2 guys selling N02 at a party...
> > >Neither of them being you.
> > >
> > > >One of those mystery men with the
> > > > tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the 
>map.
> > >And
> > > > no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up 
>another
> > >four
> > > > or five years and you're getting close.
> > >
> > >Kewl, but, this is 99.  We're talking about parties that we can all go 
>to
> > >now.
> > >
> > > >     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
> > > >     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 
>PEOPLE
> > > > WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT 
>BECAUSE
> > > > THEY LOVED IT.
> > >
> > >Kewl, now they enjoy making money by selling NO2 at parties that 
>someone
> > >else is spending money to throw.
> > >Personally I don't care, NO2 rawks.  But please drop the whole 'so
> > >offended' thing.  The only reason that the post was made was in reply 
>to
> > >someone saying that Infinity brought the tank.  I didn't hear you 
>jumping
> > >to the platform when that one was posted...
> > >
> > > > YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
> > > >     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
> > >
> > >   Wow, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' company has made you give up on
> > >Detroit?  While you have the godfathers of the detroit scene going to
> > >their parties to sell NO2?  You should be bowing down to them. You 
>should
> > >pay $25 just to get into the party to go worship them!
> > >
> > >   Man the detroit scene is weird.
> > >
> > >Krazy kids.
> > >
> > >Gotta go...
> > >
> > >zoom.
> > >
> > >Kale/DreamSequence
> > >
> >
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> Wow, you felt that Maureen was talkin' shit?
>  I kinda liked her email.  I thought it was pretty reasonable, decently
>  thought out, non-personal (i.e. not directed at anyone in particular), and
>  she at least explained where she was coming from on stuff.
>  She's certainly not damaging your scene in my eyes.  

i agree, but...

>  > > Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE 
in
>  > > Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene 
was
>  > > UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
>  > > RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.

if all the promoters were let known about the meetings, instead of them being 
announced less than a week before they happen and only certain companies were 
let known..   there would be much more "unity"...and i agree, certain 
promoters do need to respect the dates that are planned at the meetings.. 
however, it is *NOT* fair for a selected 3 or 4 companies to dominate *every 
single saturday* for a period of six months, and the other 20+ companies to 
fend for themselves...



it's strange, the last promoters meeting, tye, michelle and dave all sort of 
talked most of the time [and what's-his-face from syst3m..] ..and carl 
struggled to get a word in most of the time.. i do remember him and tye 
arguing.. but look where they are now. 

also, we announced our date [june 25th] at that meeting.. and i found out 
about Havoc throwing De La, which was totally cool...but when i found out Tye 
was doing a party in coralation with it that night.. i got kind of mad.  I 
really didn't care that it was on that date, but Tye failed to mention that 
to us when we told everyone.. we still had a phat party.. so ohwell..
and also, promoters that didn't hear about the meeting, for "strange" 
reasons, shouldn't get dicked over because 3 big companies distribute all the 
dates for the next year out, mostly to themselves... if a serious promoters 
meeting is going to take place, everyone needs to know about it...

When is the next promoters meeting.. anyone from anything care to organize 
it?  

oh yeah, *ding* Consoul Detroit's next date is March 18th.. you promoters 
listenin'? :P


-charlie / angelboi-
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What: Gyrophare, Pittsburgh's First Psychedelic Trance Party
When: 9/17 (Yeah, a week has passed on the calendar, but I'm
convinced no such week existed.)

I have a couple photos up at:
http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~kevinryan/gyrophare.html

--------------------

The Good:

(1) 100% GOA/PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE lineup. It was so exciting.
And all the DJs had really tight sets: XB, Jon Mark, Tony
D'Oporto, I wasn't around to catch Vajra.  The East Coast/
Midwest just doesn't get much exposure to this kind of music;
this was my first time hearing it at a rave, I think, and
it really was mind twisting.

(2) The VENUE (The Irish Centre) was a nice, clean, well
ventilated gym, in the city limits, but kind of tucked away
from everything.

(3) The CHILL AREA had some really interesting ambient
DJs & experimental live PAs.  In particular, The Gentleman
did live noisey stuff & used guitars to create feedback,
lots of invention.  Also, mskw1 played some lovely ambient
(wow--a chill area that REALLY IS downtempo!).  He mixed
Oxygene IV with this voice slowly counting to a hundred in
French, & it went together really well.

(4) It drew a diverse crowd. Maybe all Pittsburgh parties
are like that, but it was nice to see a lot of different
types of people one normally doesn't find at raves.

(5) Sidetrakkt (the promoter) let us (Glen/DJ Storm, Heather,
and I) in for free since we came all the way from Wisconsin.

(6) In the chill area outside there was a swingset near the
DJ setup. It was really nice to go out there occasionally and
have a little swing by the anti-dance music. At least it *was*
until a flock of candy cliches took over the swingset and just
sat there for the rest of the night *not swinging*.  Cool, guys.

(7) Glen/DJ Storm's tape selection.  His own psytrance mixtape
is superb, and I got to hear a few of the listees' mixtapes
(Craig/Spree, Tilzs, Jim Sekoch, etc.)  And Glen knows the time
of day when it comes to classical, industrial, 80s, etc., so I'm
always hip to that.

The Bad:

(1) Hallucinogen & Simon H., the 2 biggest headliners, decided
to quit their Twisted UK tour before this event. So, at no
fault of the promoter, they didn't show. I don't hold it against
Sidetrakkt, but as a courtesy they should've reduced the price a
little (from $15). But they did bring in Taka (Japan/Vancouver)
as a replacement, and he was excellent.

(2) The directions to the party were terrible.  And Pittsburgh is
not a well layed out city...We drove through that tunnel many a
time trying to find our way around the area.  But it was fun. (Ya
know, tunnels are fun, right?)

(3) They were charging a lot for water (I think). It should be
free. Well, I always carry my own bottle around, so I know I'm not
getting ripped off.  You should too.

-----------------

I'm definately gonna try to get out to the next Sidetrakkt
psy trance party.  Despite the lack of the main headliners, the
party really went off.  I just wish these kind of things could
happen more often in the Lake Michigan region.

< kevinryan@facstaff.wisc.edu >
< http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~kevinryan >



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No, the promoters are not shady. It should be a good party.

*bryn

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Wouldn't it actually be "fuck, die"?
I mean if we're speaking chronologically, you waste of universal matter.
I mean, actually it would go more like, born, eat, excrete, fuck, die.
Get your facts straight before you waste our time, slappy.

Keep 'em coming loser boy, you make me happy.

Ok kiddies, that's the last one that I'll post to this list regarding this
whole matter.  Sorry I had to allow supah phreak here to have me drag it
out ooooone more.  ~~I know Stevie's wonderfully witty remarks make for
excellent reading,~~ but you'll just have to speak to him yourself if you
want to get in on this high intellect exchange of thoughts and opinions.

hee

Cheers kiddies.

Kale/DreamSequence

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:

> Die, fuck.
> 
> 
> >From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
> >To: Steven Vansteenkiste <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
> >CC: midwest-trance <midwest-trance@egroups.com>,        mw-raves 
> ><mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
> >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:41:41 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >Well, I've abreviated the list of mailing lists that are gonna receive
> >this email, cuz I'm not on any of the others... so anyway...
> >First off I didn't go to this party.  Never been to a party in Detroit.
> >Don't think I want to with a bunch of friggin' moronic (seemingly)
> >promotion companies that can't come together and support one another.  Ya
> >ya, I know, who fuckin' cares if I come... not the point.  Support your
> >d@mn town and all the companies that try to do a little something.  Even
> >if they are "here today, gone tomorrow" groups.  As long as they can thow
> >an event that's nice, damn, back off!
> >You all can reply back and forth all day to my opinion on that, saying no
> >it's his fault no it's his fault no it's his fault... but please don't.  I
> >don't care.
> >more below......
> >
> >On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:
> >
> > >     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
> > > The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT 
> >FROM 33
> > > 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
> >
> >Great.  So it wasn't 33-1/3.  Infinity ent was wrong.  They shouldn't o'
> >come out pointing fingers.  Now that's established... why should these two
> >that DID bring the tank have the right too?  I don't care if they were
> >fucking licking warehouse walls clean when I was pushing my little red
> >wagon down the street.  Do they feel that they should have the right to
> >make back all that money that they didn't make when they were 'making the
> >detroit scene'?  pshaww... whatever.  They shoulda asked.  They shoulda
> >made sure that infinity knew who they were.  And whoever it was from the
> >other party that was complaining about Tranceformer having tanks should be
> >~~all happy (since they are apparently one of the companies that have been
> >'around for a while'), as Infinity was apparently supporting the guys that
> >have been throwing parties so long that they used to hook "Pong" up to a
> >speaker and call it music.~~
> >
> > >     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much 
> >of
> > > newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, 
> >candy-ass,
> > > trance-loving, whiteboy you really are.
> >
> >Hmm... so... since I would most definitely not have recognized either of
> >them, I'm a newbie (been partying since 92), clueless (not even going
> >there), here today (yup, and yesterday), gone tomorrow (sure if I crash
> >and die), trendy (what? whatever), suburban (what??? where the hell does
> >that fit in?  You have to be from the Sahara desert to throw a party?),
> >candy-ass (yup just so you can lick it... mmmm mmm tasty eh?),
> >tranceloving (oh.. I bet that hurt the Tranceformer company..woo),
> >whiteboy (always good to have a little racial stuff going on, eh?)....
> >Dood, get a grip.  We're talking about 2 guys selling N02 at a party...
> >Neither of them being you.
> >
> > >One of those mystery men with the
> > > tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. 
> >And
> > > no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another 
> >four
> > > or five years and you're getting close.
> >
> >Kewl, but, this is 99.  We're talking about parties that we can all go to
> >now.
> >
> > >     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
> > >     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE
> > > WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE
> > > THEY LOVED IT.
> >
> >Kewl, now they enjoy making money by selling NO2 at parties that someone
> >else is spending money to throw.
> >Personally I don't care, NO2 rawks.  But please drop the whole 'so
> >offended' thing.  The only reason that the post was made was in reply to
> >someone saying that Infinity brought the tank.  I didn't hear you jumping
> >to the platform when that one was posted...
> >
> > > YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
> > >     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
> >
> >   Wow, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' company has made you give up on
> >Detroit?  While you have the godfathers of the detroit scene going to
> >their parties to sell NO2?  You should be bowing down to them. You should
> >pay $25 just to get into the party to go worship them!
> >
> >   Man the detroit scene is weird.
> >
> >Krazy kids.
> >
> >Gotta go...
> >
> >zoom.
> >
> >Kale/DreamSequence
> >
> 
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Hoooooo-YEAH!

Let me start this review by saying (for Mr. Happy aka. 3 
Rules o' mw-raves) I am in no way, shape, or form 
connected with the promoters OR the DJ's at this party.
So there.  I can write a glowing review if I wanna! ;p

This party fuckin rocked my world.  In all my happy days
of raving I have *never* danced that hard for that long :)

First off, MAJOR info line trauma.  I headed down with 
three other carloads from Iowa and fortunately my dear
Robin was home and gave me the new info line number and
the rest of my friends who were trailing behind me on I-35
paged me so I could give them directions, big PHEW!

The space was pretty cool, jenky lighting...but you know 
what?  Who the hell cares?  And, who cares that the floor
turned into an ice rink at 1:00?  I did a small ice-dancing
routine with some random guy.  I pretended I was Nancy Kerrigan
and he was Brian Boitano staking for the gold at the Olympics.
There was nothing that was going to stop that crowd from getting 
DOWN Saturday night! I got all vibey this week and made about 
100 little bags full o' fun to hand out and the kids were 
LOVIN it!  I also got to dance with glee when I saw the crowd 
blanketed with these star lammies that I made :)  Takes so little 
to make me happy....

The music...holy SHIT!  HARD-HARD-HARD Techno/Trance ALL
night long.  Hell yeah!  N.9 was fabulouso, got my feet 
into the groove and they seriously didn't stop until I had
to leave at the end of Chris Liberators set.  The San 
Fran guy (can remember his name) laid down a wikked set, 
Roland the Bastard lived up to his name during his set
(he took the last swig of a water bottle and chucked it
into the crowd hitting this poor little candy-girl right
upside the head..didn't have the heart to tell her the
DJ threw it) besides that chaos, his set rocked.  Can't
say much for the poor slob as a person though...

And alas, Punk Floyd hit the stage!  Dear GOD I can't 
believe I missed these guys @ Further this year.  What
an EVENT.  DAMN!  But, nothing....NOTHING compares to 
the set that Chris Liberator laid down.  I completely
put his set right up there with Hawtin's this year (@ Further)
Completely fucking blew me away.  At one point I literally
just held my hands to the sky and screeeeammed!  I couldn't
believe that the music was *that* good...hard, pounding, 
slamming trance (almost techno-y).  After I got done
yelling this sweet kid just ran up to me and gave me a 
GIANT random hug.  THAT is what raving is all about my 
friends.  I won't forget this night for a VERY VERY 
long time....

Props to the SR crew for bringing this talent in an
making one of the most memorable nights of raving for me
EVER!  Thanks to my crew, JGamm, Frankie, Hilary, Jeffz, 
Adam, Tiffanie, Natalia, Sak, Kate, Steph for being the 
wonderful people that you are and to all the kids I saw again:
Finley, Ryan, Robin -----> LOVE YOU GIRL! thanks for being
a part of my wonderful evening...

                          Darian! 
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Hmmmmm...Two separate yet equally strange phenomenons...

Every freakin message on mw-raves contains the number '3'
and there was trance at TWO parties in the midwest this
weekend!?

Are the planets in some kind of funky alignment this 
week?

Pondering.... ;p
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> Not only does Derek SUCK, but for a about ten dollars extra he'll, well..
> Maybe I should let you all find out for yourselves. he usually hangs out by
> the secret "back door" at Club Paradise...

I spent a lot of time hanging out with Derek (sometimes literally!) at
Furthur... and no offense to him... but all this talk about sucking has to end
right here... because the bottom line is that nothing, and I mean NOTHING
touches .COM's Cleveland Steamers...

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look... if you guys had just said something me and Dica would have just
taken the nitrous back out to the car.

sorry to cause so many problems.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 04:53:40 1999
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Oh myyy.....(I swear, no more posts tonight ;P)

Just reading the latest SPIN article on Tori when I came
across an ad for the "MP3 Music and Technology Tour"
presenting the Goo-goo Dolls/Tonic and a special
"Rave At Sundown" featuring the BIGGEST names in 
electronic music! Hmmmmm.  My curiosity drove me to 
their web-site tour.mp3.com to see who these infamous
headliners were.  Not-a-single name.  Just says that
my favorite local headliners will be up on stage beside
platinum hero's.   This should be interesting, the
University of Iowa is the kickoff city for the tour.

Has anyone else heard anything about this?

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>
>
>  Hi everyone, just wondering what any of you thought of College
>  in indy last night? I thought it was ok, although there was NO
>  where to park at all when I got there. Security was good, considering
>  it was held at like a community centre i think it was?  Oh well,
>  Dan Efex was great!  anybody else care to submit a review?
>
>     peace.
>
>       /shandi

i loved the space, but the space owner is a schmuck.  the lights downstairs 
were cool as hell.  at one point during matt bandy's set, he played some 
oldschool acid and i looked out into the fog and laser filled room and 
thought "i feel like i'm in detroit, only it's smaller".

kudos again to the FUNK crew...

my only bitch was the presence of my least favorite bit o' crack: GHB.
we ended up babysitting some guy who kept going comatose and couldn't say 
anything other than "MMMMMMMMMM" all night.  he didn't know the NAME of what 
he took, he just knew what it looked like.  good reasoning buddy.

anyway, a note to anyone on this list who may possibly read this and who may 
possibly deal GHB:

if me or anyone in my crew catches someone dealing GHB at any indy parties 
(and especially SUBterror events) i PROMISE you, i will take you out back of 
the venue and PERSONALLY see to it that you get a beatdown to end all 
beatdowns.  that shit is stupidity (and possibly DEATH) in a vial.

DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.

that's all...

shiva

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>oh yeah, and topspeed is lame. we call him slowspeed. not that i could
>beat juggle, but if you're gonna try it in public, do it right, eh? i am
>bored with hip-hop at parties...

doug...ya know i love ya, but i gotta take issue with ya here...

maybe you've seen topspeed on some bad nights or something, but i've seen 
him do a 30 min trick routine FLAWLESSLY with NO HEADPHONES!!!!

several times...

slowspeed my arse...

just my .03 centavos
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WHAT? LOUIE DIDNT EVEN SPIN!  I am still pretty new to Detriot, and everyone 
told me not to check out 33 1/3 parties.....So I kept an open mind.....but i 
have come to the conclusion that I will not attend any future 33 1/3 parties




>From: mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com
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>Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:38:38 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Thats real cool. Louie is a real nice guy. We did fine on the party. But
>as far as these people sugesting that we were starting trouble on the
>mailing list is bullshit. I have been on the list for like 4 months now.
>After i setup our webserver i set it up to log everything. I never really
>posted to the list seeing the drama that is created very easliy. People
>will make things up to look how they want them to look. But i am not
>going to sit around and watch people make me look bad. I would ocasionally
>post things about our parties and that was it. But im sure all of you
>have been to at least one of our parties and had loads of fun. Everyone
>last night was having a blast, dispite the venue not being filled up.
>Anyways everyone check out Club Better Days, im sure you've been there
>before, on the weekends. You can get your membership cards free at
>recordtime. And the new memberships are good for any day. So check it
>out. Later.
>
>On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Jim SeKoch wrote:
>
> > Hey dude (or dudette),
> >
> > What contradiction?  I have nothing against your promotional company or 
>any
> > others (with the possible exception of One World).  I just know what I 
>was
> > told.  Whether or not I was being lied to is another issue.
> >
> > I still think both parties will do very well on their own accord.  Louis 
>is
> > a House legend "for those who know"....and I also happen to be related 
>to
> > his wife India (she gonna be there?).  She happens to be a priestess in 
>my
> > religion and I've met her and Louis several times when I lived in NYC 
>(let
> > him know the Detroit Santeros love and support them!)...so please don't
> > think I was throwing shade towards your party....I wasn't.  We can ALL 
>get
> > along and all have different parties on the same night and still "do 
>well".
> >
> > Well..."for those who know" me....:)  Y'all know I care more about 
>people
> > just having fun...so now that we all "know" the truth about both parties
> > goin down...let's just have fun...aight?  :)
> >
> > Best wishes and blessings always,
> >
> > Love,
> >
> > Jim
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:

> Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
> Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> UNITED.  

that's pretty cute, considering you were the one that was bitching about
plurkids and how they weren't part of your 31337 rave promoter association
or whatever a while back.  "they're not a real production company, they
haven't been around long and aren't accepted by other detroit promoters
wah wah wah"  how are you gonna have unity when people w/ attitudes like
yours are running around this place?



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THE BODY SNATCHERS
Saturday October 23rd 1999
Indianapolis, IN


David Hollands - Minamal wage/Sm:le Communications/Satellite Records - New 
York City
     David Hollands could possibly be the future sound of house and techno.  
Not only has he headlined the stage with such world renowned talent as Jeff 
Mills and Richie Hawtin, but he has also been awarded the title of "The next 
100" most influential artists by URB Magazine.  This original child of the 
corn will spook the soul straight outcha body!

Cyberjive - Rising Sun Records/ Muzique Boutique - New Orleans
     John Larner has gained a tremendous amount of respect as one of the 
most talented house DJs in North America.  Over the last year John has 
shared the decks with such international superstars as Derrick Carter and 
Laurent Garnier.  John's deep penetrating house is gonna scare the heebee 
geebees outta ya . . . much like the monster in his pants!

Mike Bryant - Intrinsic Design Records/Intergroove - New York City
     Mike Bryant has become a staple in the New York club scene.  SInce he 
first arrived on the east coast, Mike has shared his unique blend of house 
and techno in New York's finest clubs including Limelight, Save the Robots 
and Twilo.  Mike, better known as the sleeping gypsy midget in Europe, will 
make jets of fire shoot out your eye sockets!

Revolution 9 (Live Performance) - Scarab Records

Slater Hogan - Muzique Boutique/Genius Insanity

Shiva - SUBterror/Goddess Complex

Chocolate (The Freaky Afro-naut) - House of Babylon

Max - Sin

Mudkids (Live Performance) - Crush Entertainment

Josh Holmes - Scarab Records/Square One Recordings

Jonathan Keith - Muzique Boutique

Timothy Pininfarina - Room

Notty - Scarab Records/BRB Productions

Matt Porter - Univibe

Matt Aiden - Funk enterprises

In the tradition of Halloween this event will be a MASQUERAVE.  There will 
be a $100 prize awarded for best costume, $50 prize for second place and $25 
prize for third place.  Wear your costumes or wear nothing at all!

Paranormal sound and ethereal lights conjured up by Log Squared

Haunted house opens opens at 10pm

This is the official Indiana reunion party.  Though these performers have 
all moved to new heights in their careers, they have agreed to come back to 
their hometown to give one final history lesson in music.  We have also 
brought together the finest "new-school" Indiana talent to show you where 
the future of our scene is headed.  Prepare yourself Indianapolis!  This is 
a once in a life time chance to take part in the past, present and future 
evolution of a movement that is over eight years in the making:  The Indiana 
Rave Scene!


Scarab Records
317.767.5103
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Josh Day wrote:

clever...

peace,
chad

+And here it is again... all this back-biting is why I quit going to parties
+in the first place. Even in this "e-collective" nobody gets along. On the
+individual level, some of the kids are okay. To most, it's about getting
+their drugs for the evening, fuck you very much. Superficiality reigns
+supreme, and a lot of the kids don't know about "hard times" (i.e. working
+for a living and not milking the parentals for green). Don't get me wrong, I
+know everyone is superficial to some degree, and I like drugs as much, if
+not more than the next, but I'm not down with the petty nonsense that goes
+along with all of this. Collectively, we suck (but I think we went through
+all that earlier). This is just my interpretation of the situation...
+
+-
+questions about this mailing list?
+http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:21:22 -0500 dj fishead <fishead@mb.sympatico.ca>
writes:
>I spent a lot of time hanging out with Derek (sometimes literally!) 
>at Furthur... and no offense to him... but all this talk about sucking 
>has to end right here... because the bottom line is that nothing, and I
mean 
>NOTHINGtouches .COM's Cleveland Steamers...

and i tell you... nothing i love to see more than a conisuer of Cleveland
Steamers...

hey... sign up now everybody... at Wravelmania i'll be giving out
Cleveland Seabreezes to all the lil cany raver boys and girls!

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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:

clever...clever...all clever!
turning off the water in the bathrooms!
arghh!


i should've thought of it sooner!

doh,
chad

+and lastly, stop supporting promoters who insist on shutting off water in
+order to sell it.
+You all know who is doing this continuously in your town. Quit supporting
+them. All they want is your money, and if they say any different, they are
+lying through their teeth. Water is necessary for hydration and ultimately
+survival. Dancing causes you to dehydrate. If they really wanted you to have
+a good time, they'd allow free access to water to rehydrate after dancing.
+Put two and two together kids and wise up.
+
+pixie
+
+
+> This pisses me off.  I've seen this a lot at parties
+> around here (Chicago).  I don't want to pay two (or
+> four) bucks to buy water to wash my hands or cool off
+> after dancing in other peoples sweat (hey no anger
+> towards the dancers, just nice to wash off).  There's
+> only one foreseeable reason to turn off is to force
+> the purchase of bottled water.
+>
+> Message to promoters/show producers - if you try and
+> squeeze every dollar out of every kid who shows up,
+> we're going to stop showing up.
+>
+> Another message to promoters - Rent big fans.  Flip
+> the AC on if available.  Move the air around.  My
+> friend passed out twice last week because of the heat.
+>  Makes it hard to do what we do.. for everyone.
+>
+> Jason
+
+
+
+-
+questions about this mailing list?
+http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
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anyone know the meat url?     


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 08:22:28 1999
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*Jace takes a big breath before being asked to swallow the following 
BULLSHIT*

>we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
>UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
>RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -

buy a fucking clue, don't make excuses for the fact that you guys don't know 
how to throw a fucking party if you expect Lil Louie Vega to draw rave kids 
to an event- he is NOT A DRAW IN THE RAVE SCENE, he is a NYC club dj... if 
you asked around you would find out he has had similar problems drawing in 
other cities, including Chicago.

>alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years -

how sad for you, that you don't have your small elitist scene anymore (which 
prolly only dates back to 95-96- cuz I been going to Detroit since 92 to 
party and I never saw your stupid asses at any of those WAREHOUSE parties)

Furthermore, with all the dirt ppl could dig up on you and your friends, I 
can't understand for the life of me why you enjoy stoking the drama on a 
public email list. Jace, one who knows, at least about you

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 08:46:50 1999
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i went to
all that jazz
on sept 25
with matt from slu

the party was at the dalton expo center so
the party was hot, wet, and didn't sound so good

but it was a good party

i got there around 10:30
and there was no line
apparently there was no line all night

the space was significantly less populated
than comfortably numb and tetsuo 2
which is the only thing that helped the
hot wet factor...

paul anthony played good tracks but he was sloppy...

strictly jazz unit was a general letdown...
i think cause the table was so rickety...
(lotsa records skips)
michael saxton playin guitar with glenn underground
was the highlight of stictly jazz unit...

dj skip is awesome
justin long sounded good...

paul johnson sounded good...
but i didn't appreciate him
using the last 15 min of his
set to advertise his new single...
he did this by playing 4 remixes of it
and stopping between to say
'available in stores now'

the highlight of the party was
the montrosse rocks...
i agree with daniel...
we need to start some
traditional after spot...


adam_louis

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At 11:18 PM -0700 09/27/1999, Darian Nagle wrote:
>
>The music...holy SHIT!  HARD-HARD-HARD Techno/Trance ALL
>night long.  Hell yeah!  N.9 was fabulouso, got my feet
>into the groove and they seriously didn't stop until I had
>to leave at the end of Chris Liberators set.  The San
>Fran guy (can remember his name) laid down a wikked set,

Since Syceda didn't really post a lineup, I wouldn't have
expected anyone to know this:

The san fran. dj couldn't make his flight so Dan Deliverance
filled in the spot for the night... and he was the dj after me.


--
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dj shiva wrote:

> anyway, a note to anyone on this list who may possibly read this and who may
> possibly deal GHB:
>
> if me or anyone in my crew catches someone dealing GHB at any indy parties
> (and especially SUBterror events) i PROMISE you, i will take you out back of
> the venue and PERSONALLY see to it that you get a beatdown to end all
> beatdowns.  that shit is stupidity (and possibly DEATH) in a vial.
>
> DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.

ok i completely agree with you about people should not be selling GHB and that
it is a fukked drug but the way you are going about it is the same way the
government would, by first outlawing it, then second, using force and violence
or punishment or fear of punishment to deal with the problem...number one
violence only breeds more violence, if i was a GHB dealer and i was coming to
Indy and i read this, the only thing it would make me do is come more prepared
as in weapons or a bigger posse, because what you have to understand is the
people that sell GHB are in it for the money and nothing will stop them from
trying to make that money, and here's the key, AS LONG AS THE DEMAND IS
THERE...which brings me to number 2, the government chooses to deal with drugs
by incarcerating the supplier, but as everyone knows as long as there is a
demand there will be a supply no matter how asses you kick, what needs to happen
is educate people so that the need or want is not there, where there is no need
or want there will be no supply because money cannot be made there...i don't
know about anyone else on here but this makes perfect sense to me...ok i will
shut up now and quit rambling and shiva this was not meant as a flame!!!

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Well, seeing how their new album has been out for about a week now, I was
wonderin if any of you had had the chance to hear it yet.  I have yet to get
off my 'lazy' ass after 30 hours a week of school and 40 hours a week of
work and get downtown to buy it.  Yeah, I've seen reviews on the web, but I
know that someone will be itching to throw in their personal views on the
thing.  :P

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 12:52:44 1999
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not only that but you guys threatened to beat up plurkids and didn't you 
guys and a couple other production companies beat up the kid that threw 
pimps behind the decks? (and video taped it)???? just because his party was 
on the same day as yours? what ever happened to plur in detroit? well hate 
to say it but some of you production companies just don't care anymore. 
that's why you are all bent out of shape because infinity cares. so what if 
they had tanks. you don't have to do it. no one made you stay there. or even 
come for that matter. so why don't we all quit....

----Original Message Follows----
From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
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To: ravelings <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>,  Maureen Patricia McInerney 
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On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:

 > Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
 > Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
 > UNITED.

that's pretty cute, considering you were the one that was bitching about
plurkids and how they weren't part of your 31337 rave promoter association
or whatever a while back.  "they're not a real production company, they
haven't been around long and aren't accepted by other detroit promoters
wah wah wah"  how are you gonna have unity when people w/ attitudes like
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 13:03:30 1999
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> > DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.
>

ok, two words...right the fukk on, ok that was four...sorry

>ok i completely agree with you about people should not be selling GHB and 
>that
>it is a fukked drug but the way you are going about it is the same way the
>government would, by first outlawing it, then second, using force and 
>violence
>or punishment or fear of punishment to deal with the problem...number one
>violence only breeds more violence,

there are two major motivators in life, FEAR and PROFIT, since the profit of 
not looking like an ass (which you do on G) and the profit of not dying is 
not appealing to these brainless assholes...therefore one must use fear...
**lora**


and can you please, please, please get rid of that huge sig.?
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 14:22:13 1999
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or (gasp!) tried
GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does everyone treat
it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to single-handedly fuck
the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?

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>From what I have been able to read(trying to gather as many non-biased views 
as possible). GHB is a nootropic as well as piracetum. Taken in small 
amounts daily, it is advantageous to the brain, but as with almost anything 
in this day and age. It is abused and people take too much. If people 
learned control, things around this place might be a little better...
            my .02 of worthless info.
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whats the deal 
i hear alot of you want to beat down the GHB people 
i understand you don't like what they sell but please just tolorate them.  We all love raves, the atmophere the music and some of us like the drugs (not me) but that what some people like so just respect there wishes. i don't know what ghb is (i live in eau claire wisconsin but i can find out) please raves are fun and are ment to let us do what ever we please all the time.  there should be no fear of being "beaten down"
perhaps i don't know what i'm talking about but tolorance is the key to the rave secne not become under the eye of the police and authorites. if to many kids goto the hospital from raves cause they were beaten were just defeating our selves and the police and the law will smack us around till raves die and we have no were to go
please tolorance is the key

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Thank you.  I was just not going to reply to Jared's shit when I saw your
post.  His attitude is the type of shit you get on here.  Everyone else on
here can reply to some bullshit (I at least have a 33 and 1/3 and a lot of
other Detroit promotor's perspective), but when I do - I get - "you are
furthering the shit, blah blah.  So ironic.   I tried to take a stance
middle of the road (although I do admit to biases) and what do I  get?
Put DOwn!!!  I love it!!!!  Thank you Dreamsequence for taking my post the
way that it was supposed to be taken.  

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:

> Wow, you felt that Maureen was talkin' shit?
> I kinda liked her email.  I thought it was pretty reasonable, decently
> thought out, non-personal (i.e. not directed at anyone in particular), and
> she at least explained where she was coming from on stuff.
> She's certainly not damaging your scene in my eyes.  
> 
> Cheers Maureen.
> 
> Kale/DreamSequence
> 
> 
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, jared b griffith wrote:
> 
> > and your response and you continuing to propagate this shit, shit talking
> > (although indirectly) is furthering the scene how?
> > just drop it.
> > leave it alone.
> > futher the scene by being mature.
> > 
> > 
> > Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
> > > Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> > > UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
> > > RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -
> > > alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years - after I have gone
> > > to school.  But, I liked when there was ONE party on ONE night.  If
> > > everyone did not have to worry about how many people they have to get (so
> > > they charge more - plus water and parking) - the price would go down.  In
> > > DC, we are throwing our first event for like $15 at the most.  Because
> > > why?  We are not worried about getting 2,000 plus.
> > > And, furthermore, with all the shit going on in Detroit at the moment with
> > > the Gang Squad, I do not understand why SOME promotors are letting tanks
> > > in.  That is soo smart.  It is one thing if people are fucked up on k, a,
> > > e, c etc. because, hello, we can't check everyone's crotch - but it is
> > > another thing to roll in 60 pound tanks.  Have a house party and do that
> > > in some loft or something after the party.  Promotors should be trying to
> > > further the scene, not help bring on more "negative" public images across.
> > > - Maureen
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > -jared (a.k.a. dj nickel)
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When I know about another promotor's meeting going on - which I am almost
positive that there was one last Monday - I don't know - I am getting my
date's mixed up probably - but anyways - I will post it on here.  There is
a hierarchy - i agree in Detroit - but, as in all of the scene's history
there - there has been.  We have been at the bottom too - that is how it
is.  Respect there takes time - but I will try and give you some if I
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Thank you once again doris for taking my words and screwing them around.
I love it.  What I meant by united - is the promotors - people getting
respect by actually throwing parties for a while - not TRYING to throw
parties on the same day - etc.  etc.  I don't mean the people that go to
the parties.  Production companies get respect by respecting each other in
the simple - hmm - they are throwing a party on this date, I am not going
to throw a party on that date - way.  I do not have to LIKE every company.
Come on - don't you go to U of M - you take everything pretty fucking
literal. - Maureen

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, doris wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:
> 
> > Hi - I am from 33 and 1/3 myself and all I have to say about EVERYONE in
> > Detroit IS - - - - we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> > UNITED.  
> 
> that's pretty cute, considering you were the one that was bitching about
> plurkids and how they weren't part of your 31337 rave promoter association
> or whatever a while back.  "they're not a real production company, they
> haven't been around long and aren't accepted by other detroit promoters
> wah wah wah"  how are you gonna have unity when people w/ attitudes like
> yours are running around this place?
> 
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because it is.


On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, JayPee wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or (gasp!) tried
> GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does everyone treat
> it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to single-handedly fuck
> the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?
> 
> http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/GHB/
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "You must always be intoxicated. It is the key to all: the one question. In
> order not to feel the horrible burden of Time breaking your back and
> bending you toward the earth, you must become drunk, without truce.  But on
> what? On wine, poetry, or virtue, as you wish. But you must become drunk."
> 
> 						-Baudelaire
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Which is why we were so happy with who came.  We got the club kids there -
which was cool.  We knew a target audience and we got it - bottom line is
- both companies would have benefitted if there had been communication.
right?

 It
is just too bad that louie's manager SUCKS! - which is a whole other
story.    

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, J AC wrote:

> *Jace takes a big breath before being asked to swallow the following 
> BULLSHIT*
> 
> >we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> >UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
> >RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -
> 
> buy a fucking clue, don't make excuses for the fact that you guys don't know 
> how to throw a fucking party if you expect Lil Louie Vega to draw rave kids 
> to an event- he is NOT A DRAW IN THE RAVE SCENE, he is a NYC club dj... if 
> you asked around you would find out he has had similar problems drawing in 
> other cities, including Chicago.
> 
> >alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years -
> 
> how sad for you, that you don't have your small elitist scene anymore (which 
> prolly only dates back to 95-96- cuz I been going to Detroit since 92 to 
> party and I never saw your stupid asses at any of those WAREHOUSE parties)
> 
> Furthermore, with all the dirt ppl could dig up on you and your friends, I 
> can't understand for the life of me why you enjoy stoking the drama on a 
> public email list. Jace, one who knows, at least about you
> 
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Ya, it's kinda funny.  People are freaking out... yet, there's heroin,
coke, crystal, crack... hell who KNOWs what around.  Each of those being
extrememly addictive, just as harmful, and 6 times as prevalent.  I mean,
come ON peeps... have you SEEN some o' our little raver friends all geeked
out on glass for like 4 or 5 days?  THAT is scary. 
Or 'K'?  Little kiddie plopped on the floor, unable to move or react to
anything.
Or hell, even alcohol!  

There's so much worse than (or equally as bad as) scoop.... errr, ghb.

K
On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, JayPee wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or (gasp!) tried
> GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does everyone treat
> it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to single-handedly fuck
> the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?
> 
> http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/GHB/
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "You must always be intoxicated. It is the key to all: the one question. In
> order not to feel the horrible burden of Time breaking your back and
> bending you toward the earth, you must become drunk, without truce.  But on
> what? On wine, poetry, or virtue, as you wish. But you must become drunk."
> 
> 						-Baudelaire
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jay_Pee
> DrunkenMasters
> Dj's and Audio Annihilationists
> ICQ:  21427740        
> 
> 
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> > Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or (gasp!) 
>tried
> > GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does everyone 
>treat
> > it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to single-handedly 
>fuck
> > the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?

ok, i am afraid of earthquakes...i used to live right on a fault line that 
has been like 200 years overdue fora MAJOR earthquake...i dont sit in a 
doorway (which is the safest inside pace to be durring a quake) with abottle 
of water and a can of beans waiting for it to happen, i live my life...but i 
DONT live on a fault line anymore...

some of us have researched it...some have even tried it, i havent, a few 
people i know who have did it the right way....a few the wrong...
i think the key is education, maybe if you feel so strongly abotu being free 
to put in your own body what you will, you should research this yourself, 
and hand out a lil flyer with a lil info on it telling a bit about GHB, its 
effects, interactions, ect...
**lora**



ps-as long as you dont mix it with ANYTHING and you use responsibly (in 
small doses) it is fine....i do believe it even occours naturally in your 
body....

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.. hey, anyone out there have JMECHANIC's email address? .. or contact info
.. or could you let him know i'm trying to contact him .. he used to go by
the dj name, SPECIAL K, but now goes by JMECHANIC .. pretty sure he lives in
Ann Arbor, and might go to U of M (?) .. thanks much!

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If you are going to be down on one drug, then get down on all of them. It's
hypocritical not to. I think it's funny how people react to the "chemical
diets" of others while they themselves are usually intaking something else.

Drugs are an integral part of this whole aspect of our culture, and there
isn't much anyone can do about it. We all know this to be a fact. Throwing
threats around (I don't care who you are) is going to accomplish
approximately dick. In fact, as someone else already pointed out, it will
make it that much more inticing. Anything that is made taboo becomes that
much more desirable, thusly making it that much more of a commodity.

It's hard to be tolerant all the time, but what else can you really do? Not
a one of us has the right to try and impose our will on others.

Peace,      J  

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	Ya, it's kinda funny.  People are freaking out... yet, there's
heroin,
	coke, crystal, crack... hell who KNOWs what around.  Each of those
being
	extrememly addictive, just as harmful, and 6 times as prevalent.  I
mean,
	come ON peeps... have you SEEN some o' our little raver friends all
geeked
	out on glass for like 4 or 5 days?  THAT is scary. 
	Or 'K'?  Little kiddie plopped on the floor, unable to move or react
to
	anything.
	Or hell, even alcohol!  

	There's so much worse than (or equally as bad as) scoop.... errr,
ghb.

	K
	On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, JayPee wrote:

	> Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or
(gasp!) tried
	> GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does
everyone treat
	> it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to
single-handedly fuck
	> the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?
	> 
	> http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/GHB/
	> 
	> 
	>
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question. In
	> order not to feel the horrible burden of Time breaking your back
and
	> bending you toward the earth, you must become drunk, without
truce.  But on
	> what? On wine, poetry, or virtue, as you wish. But you must become
drunk."
	> 
	> 						-Baudelaire
	>
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because when mixed with alcohol it is deadly, i showed up to club some in houston
to find 2 of my friends passed out cold.  We had to take them to the hospital (the
cops at the club were laughing at them for being so fucked up) where the doctor
told us that that was as close to death as those two would probably ever come.  Bad
Bad stuff!
-Stumps

JayPee wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or (gasp!) tried
> GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does everyone treat
> it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to single-handedly fuck
> the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?
>
> http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/GHB/
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "You must always be intoxicated. It is the key to all: the one question. In
> order not to feel the horrible burden of Time breaking your back and
> bending you toward the earth, you must become drunk, without truce.  But on
> what? On wine, poetry, or virtue, as you wish. But you must become drunk."
>
>                                                 -Baudelaire
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Thats one way to deal with it, but not a smart one.  How many parties do you
think your crew would be able to have in indy if the people throwing it beat
someone down?
-stumps
dj shiva wrote:

> >
> >
> >  Hi everyone, just wondering what any of you thought of College
> >  in indy last night? I thought it was ok, although there was NO
> >  where to park at all when I got there. Security was good, considering
> >  it was held at like a community centre i think it was?  Oh well,
> >  Dan Efex was great!  anybody else care to submit a review?
> >
> >     peace.
> >
> >       /shandi
>
> i loved the space, but the space owner is a schmuck.  the lights downstairs
> were cool as hell.  at one point during matt bandy's set, he played some
> oldschool acid and i looked out into the fog and laser filled room and
> thought "i feel like i'm in detroit, only it's smaller".
>
> kudos again to the FUNK crew...
>
> my only bitch was the presence of my least favorite bit o' crack: GHB.
> we ended up babysitting some guy who kept going comatose and couldn't say
> anything other than "MMMMMMMMMM" all night.  he didn't know the NAME of what
> he took, he just knew what it looked like.  good reasoning buddy.
>
> anyway, a note to anyone on this list who may possibly read this and who may
> possibly deal GHB:
>
> if me or anyone in my crew catches someone dealing GHB at any indy parties
> (and especially SUBterror events) i PROMISE you, i will take you out back of
> the venue and PERSONALLY see to it that you get a beatdown to end all
> beatdowns.  that shit is stupidity (and possibly DEATH) in a vial.
>
> DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.
>
> that's all...
>
> shiva
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but what if someone isn't down on the drug, just the fact that some people
who do them are complete and utter morons. for example, I smoke probably 2
joints a day, on average....but that doesn't mean that I don't have a
problem with the guy next door shooting up 17 times a day, or that kid on
the dancefloor snorting a half a vial of k in one bump....or that kid beside
him drinking a half vial of ghb after having had a few beers earlier in the
night (that'll kill ya, y'know)

pixie

> If you are going to be down on one drug, then get down on all of them.
It's
> hypocritical not to. I think it's funny how people react to the "chemical
> diets" of others while they themselves are usually intaking something
else.



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In a message dated 9/28/99 9:47:47 AM, JDay@CJI.State.IN.US writes:

<<Throwing threats around (I don't care who you are) is going to accomplish
approximately dick. In fact, as someone else already pointed out, it will
make it that much more inticing. Anything that is made taboo becomes that
much more desirable, thusly making it that much more of a commodity.>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then you obviously aren't familiar with Shiva.  If she says it isn't going to 
happen then it won't because she is one raw-assed, hardcore, Glock wavin', 
machete weilding, angel of death.  Please f**k with her, i would love to see 
it.
Seriously though, the Indy scene is very tight & I think most kids will 
quickly recognize who is dealing "G" & reject them.  There is little profit 
where there are few buyers & eventually the risk of possibly getting one's 
ass kicked for a $40 night begins to persuade dealers to move on.  
P.S.-To GHB dealers, there's a reason why we are called "TeknoMafia".  End up 
at the bottom of the downtown canal much?  (for all u peeps who can't deal 
with humour, that is a joke...or whatev.


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Hi people,
Just though I'd forward this on for anyone who is interested in voting for
their favourite DJ!
Regards,
Brisk.
Next Generation Records Ltd. 1999
       &  Blatant Beats Ltd. 1999
  www.nextgeneration.demon.co.uk
(P.S. There's a coupleof new mixes up on the site and some new reviews on
their way real soon!)


FROM DJ MAGAZINE:
Dear Clubgoingmusiclovin'goodtimeseeker,
Here's your exclusive opportunity to have a say in our last major people's
poll of this century.
We want to know who are your current top five DJs - the turntable tweakers
who bring maximum pleasure to all of your senses.
There's a free record bag for every 50th entry into a grand prize draw if
you return nominations to us by next WEDNESDAY 22nd SEPTEMBER.
Please include the following detals:
- Name:
- Contact No:
- My favourite DJs are:
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
Please return by fax on (UK): 01273 748474 or E-Mail us at:
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why do people do them? not to spawn the classic mw-raves ring around the 
rosy about drugs and such, but i really dont understand the benefits of 
them. period. so enlighten me. please. so that i can read your post and take 
it seriously when it says something to the affect of 'tolerating ghb' or 
'giving e a chance'. hello? those are DRUGS. my mom doesn't let me do 
them....
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ok. i lied. please dont talk about drugs anymore. it was a brief period of 
insanity..and now i take it back.
my humblest apologies.
val

>From: "vaL vaLenzo*" <valerieev@hotmail.com>
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>
>why do people do them? not to spawn the classic mw-raves ring around the
>rosy about drugs and such, but i really dont understand the benefits of
>them. period. so enlighten me. please. so that i can read your post and 
>take
>it seriously when it says something to the affect of 'tolerating ghb' or
>'giving e a chance'. hello? those are DRUGS. my mom doesn't let me do
>them....
>val
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They make ya feel kind of funny.  Kind of like climbing a rope in gym class.
-stumps

vaL vaLenzo* wrote:

> why do people do them? not to spawn the classic mw-raves ring around the
> rosy about drugs and such, but i really dont understand the benefits of
> them. period. so enlighten me. please. so that i can read your post and take
> it seriously when it says something to the affect of 'tolerating ghb' or
> 'giving e a chance'. hello? those are DRUGS. my mom doesn't let me do
> them....
> val
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Eduaction about drug use like setting up a RaveSafe table  & passing out
pamphlets with good info about various drugs that are avaliable @ parties
should dissolve some of these kind of problems.  GHB like any other drugs
(legal or not) is generally really safe if you know what the hell you are
doing with it....of course too many people (mostly candy kids) are too lazy
or too arrogant to find the info about the various chemicals that they are
putting into their bodies.  @ parties I usually try to tell people alot of
facts about the drugs that are flying around @ parties and tell them where
they could go to find more info.  Education is the key to anything and
everything.
xu

----- Original Message -----
From: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>
To: dj shiva <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [mw] college reviews & a note on GHB


> Thats one way to deal with it, but not a smart one.  How many parties do
you
> think your crew would be able to have in indy if the people throwing it
beat
> someone down?
> -stumps
> dj shiva wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hi everyone, just wondering what any of you thought of College
> > >  in indy last night? I thought it was ok, although there was NO
> > >  where to park at all when I got there. Security was good, considering
> > >  it was held at like a community centre i think it was?  Oh well,
> > >  Dan Efex was great!  anybody else care to submit a review?
> > >
> > >     peace.
> > >
> > >       /shandi
> >
> > i loved the space, but the space owner is a schmuck.  the lights
downstairs
> > were cool as hell.  at one point during matt bandy's set, he played some
> > oldschool acid and i looked out into the fog and laser filled room and
> > thought "i feel like i'm in detroit, only it's smaller".
> >
> > kudos again to the FUNK crew...
> >
> > my only bitch was the presence of my least favorite bit o' crack: GHB.
> > we ended up babysitting some guy who kept going comatose and couldn't
say
> > anything other than "MMMMMMMMMM" all night.  he didn't know the NAME of
what
> > he took, he just knew what it looked like.  good reasoning buddy.
> >
> > anyway, a note to anyone on this list who may possibly read this and who
may
> > possibly deal GHB:
> >
> > if me or anyone in my crew catches someone dealing GHB at any indy
parties
> > (and especially SUBterror events) i PROMISE you, i will take you out
back of
> > the venue and PERSONALLY see to it that you get a beatdown to end all
> > beatdowns.  that shit is stupidity (and possibly DEATH) in a vial.
> >
> > DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.
> >
> > that's all...
> >
> > shiva
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>From John Gallup and I...

We cannot find the words to express our love and respect for everyone in
this community.  We are not responsible in ANYWAY for the 400 people
that came through our doors on Saturday.  

BIG THANKS TO:  Dillion (who game me his e-mail address to post the
directions on)/CHA CHA CHA for lending us there infoline/Nick, Michael,
Petra, LeighAnn for calling everyone on the local scene/everyone who had
cellphones that called everyone they knew as soon as they found the
venue and then passed it on to anyone who needed to use it to call their
people/the kids who took turns going to the only convenience store by
the highway near the venue and pointed many in the right direction/to
all the promoters for their genuine reassurance and concern for my blood
pressure early in the evening/ and last but in NO WAY least - to all the
partygoers who sought John and/or myself out to tell us this was the
best party ever and even thanked US (when we had so little to do with
any of it).  

I don't know if you all noticed the HUGE grin on Chris' face while his
was spinning but he told me that he has not had that kind of response in
a long time (especially not at any of the other Punk Floyd shows)and
that he would rather play to in Kansas City to 400 than anything he has
done recently in New York.  You guys kept the dance floor solid the
ENTIRE night. 

Chirs, Steve Smitten, Roland, Dave (DDR), and Geezer all deemed
Migration 2 the best party of the tour and all discussed at length their
amazement at the unity of our Midwest scene.  They were bogled how they
were found with no directions.  They understood how much we love what
they do.

Our apologizes and regrets to those who missed out because of the
infoline. We received over 2,300 hits on Saturday and cringe at the
numbers who possibly came into town and could not find their way.  To
those of you who identied yourselves from Omaha, Iowa, St. Louis, and
the two guys from South Dakota - KUDOS to you for finding us! 

In an attempt to make peace with those who couldn't find him, to give a
second chance to those who chose NOT to see him, but especially for
those who were as (if it's possible, and after those reviews, I'm
thinking MAYBE it is) blown away by him as I was....

CHRIS LIBERATOR IS COMING BACK TO KANSAS CITY!!!

Natural Disaster
January 1999

Featuring:
-Posted directions weeks in advance
-Updated website with directions

and...

3 Infolines


See you at Minimal Funk in November!

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Ok, I met this girl named Calista at dreamfest and she gave me her # to
give her a call.  But, she forgot the area code.  Does anyone in the
springfield area know what area code would go with an 865 prefix.  Any
help would be much appreciated.
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Xu wrote:

> Eduaction about drug use like setting up a RaveSafe table  & passing out
> pamphlets with good info about various drugs that are avaliable @ parties
> should dissolve some of these kind of problems. 

theoretically, yes.  practically, no.  last weekend at tranceformers, we
set out some ravesafe flyers that jeff and i had come up with.  more often
than not, i found kids picking them up, taking a quick look, and PUTTING
THEM BACK!  what the hell!  it seems to me that the kids saw the 'e' in
the title of the flyer and thought it was a $5 off coupon or something.
when they saw that they'd be required to read complete sentences, and 1/2
a page full of them, they figured they'd rather ditch the thing.  i
couldn't really chase down all the kids that did that and force them to
put one in their pocket, much less force them to take a look at it later,
so i came to the conclusion that ravers are dumbshits and will never be
educated about their chemicals because they don't want to be.  as long as
they get their seabreeze and a bump of k for the comedown, they're all
good.
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Ok..this cd came out earlier this year, but most of you haven't heard of 
this little gem, so I'm going to set you all straight..

Unknown Object at Six Zero Four is a compilation of various goa artists from 
around the world, from the midwest's first goa label- tranceplant records 
(based out of Minneapolis).

What makes this cd so special is that it's not just a compilation of "the 
biggest names in the trance scene", but is instead a reflection of the true, 
underground, DIY nature of the international goa scene.  The tracks that are 
on this cd reflect some of the best goa/psy trance you can find anywhere.  
The focus is on a darker, deeper sound...some of the tracks are harder 
edged, others are a bit lighter in sound, but all are excellent.

but don't just take my word for it...you can hear real audio samples of each 
track yourself at xradio (the website where you can pick up this cd)..

check the link below and enjoy!!!

http://www.x-radio.com/title.html?sku=PECD01

or surf x-radio yourself at
http://www.x-radio.com


Dj Storm
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> If we're going to have a half naked chick, we need a
> half naked man too ;)!
>
> Tam
>

*flailing hand wildly in air*

Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a sexy motherf*cker! , my grandma
said so! =D

If not me, can we get that "crazy football guy", I mean...I've been having
dreams about those spandex pants...that d00d is sexier
than...well...everything known to man, except Angela Lansbury, but that goes
without saying!

(Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any nominations?)
(Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)


*sm:)es*
///D@/\/|3L\\\
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i knew i liked you...since we live in the same area, would you or anyone 
else up this way(madison) , be interested in working on somthing like 
this???? get back to me privately...
**lora**

>Eduaction about drug use like setting up a RaveSafe table  & passing out
>pamphlets with good info about various drugs that are avaliable @ parties
>should dissolve some of these kind of problems.  GHB like any other drugs
>(legal or not) is generally really safe if you know what the hell you are
>doing with it....of course too many people (mostly candy kids) are too lazy
>or too arrogant to find the info about the various chemicals that they are
>putting into their bodies.  @ parties I usually try to tell people alot of
>facts about the drugs that are flying around @ parties and tell them where
>they could go to find more info.  Education is the key to anything and
>everything.
>xu
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Barney Rubble <stumpyky@aye.net>
>To: dj shiva <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>Cc: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:03 AM
>Subject: Re: [mw] college reviews & a note on GHB
>
>
> > Thats one way to deal with it, but not a smart one.  How many parties do
>you
> > think your crew would be able to have in indy if the people throwing it
>beat
> > someone down?
> > -stumps
> > dj shiva wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  Hi everyone, just wondering what any of you thought of College
> > > >  in indy last night? I thought it was ok, although there was NO
> > > >  where to park at all when I got there. Security was good, 
>considering
> > > >  it was held at like a community centre i think it was?  Oh well,
> > > >  Dan Efex was great!  anybody else care to submit a review?
> > > >
> > > >     peace.
> > > >
> > > >       /shandi
> > >
> > > i loved the space, but the space owner is a schmuck.  the lights
>downstairs
> > > were cool as hell.  at one point during matt bandy's set, he played 
>some
> > > oldschool acid and i looked out into the fog and laser filled room and
> > > thought "i feel like i'm in detroit, only it's smaller".
> > >
> > > kudos again to the FUNK crew...
> > >
> > > my only bitch was the presence of my least favorite bit o' crack: GHB.
> > > we ended up babysitting some guy who kept going comatose and couldn't
>say
> > > anything other than "MMMMMMMMMM" all night.  he didn't know the NAME 
>of
>what
> > > he took, he just knew what it looked like.  good reasoning buddy.
> > >
> > > anyway, a note to anyone on this list who may possibly read this and 
>who
>may
> > > possibly deal GHB:
> > >
> > > if me or anyone in my crew catches someone dealing GHB at any indy
>parties
> > > (and especially SUBterror events) i PROMISE you, i will take you out
>back of
> > > the venue and PERSONALLY see to it that you get a beatdown to end all
> > > beatdowns.  that shit is stupidity (and possibly DEATH) in a vial.
> > >
> > > DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.
> > >
> > > that's all...
> > >
> > > shiva
> > >
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Damn what is up with all this hatred. The only stick that you're gonna have in
your hands is MY phat warm squishy stick right before i beotch slap you guys
in the face with it. If you wanna throw down in mo-town ill be
waiting.......ha........hahaha.............hahahahahahaha....................muahhahahmuahhhha

hahahahhahahmuahhahaha.               Phil the mad muthafuckin motown meanass.

just kidding guys, sure was phun though.

DreamSequence wrote:

> > oh and with a few exceptions, detroit party kids need to die.  be beaten
> > down with a stick, for all i care.  plur.
> > **doris**
>
> Yes, but a big warm squishy stick, right Doris?
> And make sure to give them some jolly ranchers when you are done.  =)
>
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>than not, i found kids picking them up, taking a quick look, and PUTTING
>THEM BACK!  what the hell!  it seems to me that the kids saw the 'e' in
>the title of the flyer and thought it was a $5 off coupon or something.
>when they saw that they'd be required to read complete sentences, and 1/2
>a page full of them, they figured they'd rather ditch the thing.  i
>couldn't really chase down all the kids that did that and force them to
>put one in their pocket

you think maybe handing them out as kids are walking out the door or even 
putting them in various stores/ravey type hangin out places would motivate 
kids to read them??? i dunno....
just a thought....

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 <A HREF="http://www.harmreduction.net/dancesafe/ghb.html">GHB health and 
safety</A> 

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Well im not gonna talk any shit about any body, but i do have to say that
this cat has the balls of a rhino. He's like Clint Eastwood walking into a
bar of 20 motha fuckas and telling em all that they suck ass. Who got da
biggest balls of em all?
well if he net meets with all of us sometime than he REALLY has super big
balls.
STORM is very good by the way. Other than this i say nothing.  . Tcao.  phil

RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> since u asked....
>
> >> you think that Matt Positive sucks?  NO, He's OK
> >>Do you think Derek Plaslaiko sucks? YES
> <<you think Disco D sucks? HELL YES!!! He's really bad.
> >>How about Dica, ChrisE, Micheal Knight.  NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS
> OUTSIDE THIS LIST
> >>Jethrox.  GOOD
> >> Joe Carroll,  SUCKS
> >> .com, Stan Doublin, Dreamsequence, Syntax, Matt Demmon, Chad
>  Sponholz, Trunk,   NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THESE GUYS OUTSIDE THIS LIST.
> >>Eye-D, DJ Tsar  SUCK REALLY BAD
> >> DJ Storm, FiZ, Mark Lancaster, REALLY GOOD.
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No, I'm not tlakin about muther fuckin Richie.
Every time you say "a few years ago" everyone drops their fuckin' jaws and 
starts squealin' "Richie" "Richie"
People actually threw parties BEFORE Richie (GASP!)



>From: FuNkEgRuvZ@aol.com
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>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:13:07 EDT
>
>In a message dated 9/27/99 3:47:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>imonfyre@hotmail.com writes:
>
><< One of those mystery men with the
>  tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. 
>And
>   >>
>yer not tawkin about good ol richie are u?

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I would rather drink a cyanide-laced bottle of straight razors floating in 
kerosene than see the FUCKIN WORD TRANCEFORMERS IN MY FUCKIN MAILBOX ONE 
MORE FUCKIN TIME!

Oh, wait...

I just did it again, didn't I?


Fuck it! Bring on the razors!

>From: dj fishead <fishead@mb.sympatico.ca>
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>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:26:16 -0500
>
>look... if you guys had just said something me and Dica would have just
>taken the nitrous back out to the car.
>
>sorry to cause so many problems.
>
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>(Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any nominations?)
>(Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)
>

i nominate pixie and dica's cat *mittens*
**lora**

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as long as
>they get their seabreeze and a bump of k for the comedown, they're all
>good.
>**doris**

whoa that was said in such a hip manner i think i want some seabreeze and a 
bump of k for the comedown---j/k

BTW what is seabreeze?  i'm not hip to you kids and you're urban slang

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Actaully, I usually require at least three "seabreezes" and a vial of K or I 
just get down right cranky


>From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
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>
>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Xu wrote:
>
> > Eduaction about drug use like setting up a RaveSafe table  & passing out
> > pamphlets with good info about various drugs that are avaliable @ 
>parties
> > should dissolve some of these kind of problems.
>
>theoretically, yes.  practically, no.  last weekend at tranceformers, we
>set out some ravesafe flyers that jeff and i had come up with.  more often
>than not, i found kids picking them up, taking a quick look, and PUTTING
>THEM BACK!  what the hell!  it seems to me that the kids saw the 'e' in
>the title of the flyer and thought it was a $5 off coupon or something.
>when they saw that they'd be required to read complete sentences, and 1/2
>a page full of them, they figured they'd rather ditch the thing.  i
>couldn't really chase down all the kids that did that and force them to
>put one in their pocket, much less force them to take a look at it later,
>so i came to the conclusion that ravers are dumbshits and will never be
>educated about their chemicals because they don't want to be.  as long as
>they get their seabreeze and a bump of k for the comedown, they're all
>good.
>**doris**
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I love when they are just on a desk near the door when I am leaving.  Then, I
will normally grab 1 of each.  But, when someone hands me 1 I will normally
read who is spinnin, where it is, and toss it, then grab it on the way out.
Those things get icky when you have been sweating all night and you pull one
out of your pocket.
Just my 2 pennies again,
Stumps

PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:

> >than not, i found kids picking them up, taking a quick look, and PUTTING
> >THEM BACK!  what the hell!  it seems to me that the kids saw the 'e' in
> >the title of the flyer and thought it was a $5 off coupon or something.
> >when they saw that they'd be required to read complete sentences, and 1/2
> >a page full of them, they figured they'd rather ditch the thing.  i
> >couldn't really chase down all the kids that did that and force them to
> >put one in their pocket
>
> you think maybe handing them out as kids are walking out the door or even
> putting them in various stores/ravey type hangin out places would motivate
> kids to read them??? i dunno....
> just a thought....
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>>>yer not tawkin about good ol richie are u?

>No, I'm not tlakin about muther fuckin Richie.
>Every time you say "a few years ago" everyone drops their fuckin' jaws 
and 
>starts squealin' "Richie" "Richie"
>People actually threw parties BEFORE Richie (GASP!)

are you sure it wasn't richie?

ricA

some people just don't get it

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but wait, I thought Richie invented parties and PLUR???!!

you mean Richie *isn't* the original candy raver?

~I thought so~

pixie


> No, I'm not tlakin about muther fuckin Richie.
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woohoo!!  mittens!  ain't no pussy like her!!


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I SAW RICA SELL A BALOON TO RICHIE AT DREAMFEST. TRUE FACT.

matt

P.S. Just one more pill and I'll be fine.

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

> >>>yer not tawkin about good ol richie are u?
> 
> >No, I'm not tlakin about muther fuckin Richie.
> >Every time you say "a few years ago" everyone drops their fuckin' jaws 
> and 
> >starts squealin' "Richie" "Richie"
> >People actually threw parties BEFORE Richie (GASP!)
> 
> are you sure it wasn't richie?
> 
> ricA
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Hey people.. looks like I made a typing mistake!!! The polls should have
been in on the 29th Septmber NOT the 22nd.. hehe, not concentrating I
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aaaawwwww....keeep mitten's out of this!!!


*smile**smile**smile*......

....PLOP!!!

derek.




-----Original Message-----
From: PLUR me ROTTEN <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>; stl-raves@egroups.com
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>
>>(Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any nominations?)
>>(Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)
>>
>
>i nominate pixie and dica's cat *mittens*
>**lora**
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>woohoo!!  mittens!  ain't no pussy like her!!

ain't no pussy like detroit pussy cuz chicago pussy ain't shit

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>I SAW RICA SELL A BALOON TO RICHIE AT DREAMFEST. TRUE FACT.

This is true. See, we used to kick it back in the day. After tours and 
shit and me living in Germany for a few years, I thought it'd be cool 
to catch up on it all with mah boy by sharing a ballon.

You are wrong about one thing though, i didn't sell it to him. We 
"traded".

umm.....yeah....that's it

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uuh.. where does she live?




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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Barney Rubble wrote:

> Ok, I met this girl named Calista at dreamfest and she gave me her # to
> give her a call.  But, she forgot the area code.  Does anyone in the
> springfield area know what area code would go with an 865 prefix.  Any
> help would be much appreciated.
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Ok, I am a dumbass, i just saw the word flyer and wrote my response, i didnt read
the e-mail before that 1.  But I guess it works the same regardless of what kind
of flyer it is, also, it is a bitch to read drug info in darkness with crazy
lights goin on.
-stumps

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> I love when they are just on a desk near the door when I am leaving.  Then, I
> will normally grab 1 of each.  But, when someone hands me 1 I will normally
> read who is spinnin, where it is, and toss it, then grab it on the way out.
> Those things get icky when you have been sweating all night and you pull one
> out of your pocket.
> Just my 2 pennies again,
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I nominate Lora and my friend curt's cat (kari)

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:

> 
> >(Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any nominations?)
> >(Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)
> >
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> i nominate pixie and dica's cat *mittens*
> **lora**
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What I want to know is, how did someone manage to (sneak?!?!?!) in a
75 pound, 5 foot tall tank of nitrous?  I had to argue with the guy at
the door for five minutes before I convinced him that I was in fact
selling tapes (even though I was carrying a couple hundred at the
time) and needed to be allowed back in after I put them in the car.

Did I miss some gun waving?  Were there shots fired?  Did Ritchie
threaten to bust a cap in 'dat ass if they didn't let him in?

May the thread be with you, always.
one love,
Greg

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-->----Original Message Follows----
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-->Subject: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
-->Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:35:02 EDT
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-->SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!
-->
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-->Hello Detroit,
-->INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear some
-->stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that was
-->brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other party....I wont
-->say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever was commenting in the
-->earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the party, well simple 
-->put....That
-->was the only thing you could find to BITCH about. Which is really funny when
-->it was your people who got into my party and started selling it!!!!!!! That
-->fucking blows me away.
-->I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as
-->promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would
-->loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED 
-->EVERYONE
-->WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY IS SLOWING
-->BRINGING IT ALL BACK
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-->  THANK YOU,
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> the highlight of the party was
> the montrosse rocks...
> i agree with daniel...
> we need to start some
> traditional after spot...

Right on adam and love out to all at the rocks this
weekend.  If it wasn't for the 11pm rule, I think we
could just bring a few boomboxes and dance out here
all night.  (And that would be the end of the $30
parties Mr. Steven Van.)  

Great vibe kids pouring in from the parties, sun
racing around the other side, the lake, the birds, the
sand.  I agree.. we need to find something before
winter comes.

Jason

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Ok I have lost contact with some REALLY good friends
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  I heard he's coming out with a new mix cd on Mute!  Does anyone know
when this is gonna to be released?

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>I heard he's coming out with a new mix cd on Mute!  Does anyone know
>when this is gonna to be released?

Yeah, I think it'll be out in December or something. I heard it's 
called DECKSFX909

or something

just what i heard though

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A very good friend of mine, Turtle, almost died from G, he went into a hard 
G-coma, a lot of people thought he was dead.  Most of you that went to Free*E 
in St. Louis remember him, i hate it, and please dont do it, it really is 
evil.

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At 02:44 PM 9/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>but wait, I thought Richie invented parties and PLUR???!!
>
>you mean Richie *isn't* the original candy raver?

NO WAY MAN, FRANKIE BONES INVENTED PLUR!

DUH!

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I plan on throwing a party dedicated to that sound
called "TRANCE". When will this event take place? I
plan on the Spring. I would like to start planning now
to ensure the best possible performance. What I am
looking for are people interested in taking part in
organizing this party with me. It will be held in
Central Illinois on beautiful land away from
everything. Quazar Eliminations will be doing sound
and lighting. I need dedicated volunteers to help me
gather DJ's, promote, and decorate this event to make
it a night to remember. Please email if you show any
interest in helping with this event. This event will
cover HARD, PROGRESSIVE, EPIC, GOA & PSY TRANCE. If
you are interested in performing at this event call
(309) 242-0858 and leave a message or you can email
me. All DJ's interested in performing will need to
send a promo tape to be accepted, especially Tsar
(lack of skills), LOL. Well I hope to hear from you
TRANCERS!

Y-O-R-K

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>NO WAY MAN, FRANKIE BONES INVENTED PLUR!

No....Frankie Bones invented PLUM (Peace Love Unity Movement)

oh wait.....n/m

ricA

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altho i'm sure everyone else on here is having fun arguing about how 33
1/3 sucks and transformers had a nice tank and bla bla bla all this and
that shit i'm seeing, i'll actually write about a GOOD party.

add buffalo to a city that's werth partying in fo sho :D  kids were really
really nice, and... WHOA.. i was actually shocked to see more *SOBER* ppl
there than kids who were fucked up!  imagine that!!!!  security wasn't
even all that tight either (for any of you who have had to endure their
shit at the agora in cleveland).

this party was held at center stage in downtown niagra i think.  it's a
terrific space for a party, altho they did serve alcohol there (something
so non-rave about that IMO) :P

anywho, the lineup that i paid attention to was carl craig, dj rap,
timewriter (i think?), john selway, and marty mcfly.  by all standards,
carl craig's set was THE SHIT!!!!  words can't even describe how much i
danced to it.

dj rap was ok.  she didn't look that great (come on... you knew i had to
comment on her looks) :P  and i didn't get any luv from her like at motor,
but that's ok :P  her set started out sounding very 4/4 techstep, hence i
actually stuck around and liked it :P  then she did most of the same stuff
she did at motor and i lost interest.

the other wikkit set of the night was marty mcfly.  what can i say... the
guy is just bad as hell behind the dex. :D

minor power outage for 10 minutes.  that was ok since it was fixed.  i
guess they blew a fuse and some wires melted or something :P

big disappointment:  i didn't get to hear timewriter play.  something got
fucked w/the lineup so instead john selway came on and frankly i was bored
:/  the music lineup needed more trance to it, and i was hoping for a lil
tech-trance, but it didn't really happen... :/

OH, i almost forgot... for anyone who ever complains about there never
being a lineup posted, they did the most kick ass thing at lift 2.  the
guy working the laser up top programmed the name of the dj playing and
had the laser spell out the name (in different colors and what not so it
looked all neat), and then there was netting hanging in front of the laser
booth (much like in the dnb room at tonka).  nice!

i didn't check out much of db's set.  fuck jungle! :P

ummm, let's see... that's about it.  i'd say the one big thing i loved
about this party was the insane # of sober kids i met.  talk about ppl who
are there for music and fun.


hats off to offworld,
prasad/gimme a job dammit!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Sep 28 20:14:05 1999
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Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked people...why not just go all out? 
Completely naked people!  Half naked is just boring and
over-done...well, guess it depends on what half you're talking about.

I now have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.

pikachu!

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--- Daniel Nelson <daniel.nelson@wcom.com> wrote:
> > If we're going to have a half naked chick, we need a
> > half naked man too ;)!
> >
> > Tam
> >
> 
> *flailing hand wildly in air*
> 
> Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a sexy motherf*cker! , my
> grandma
> said so! =D
> 
> If not me, can we get that "crazy football guy", I mean...I've been
> having
> dreams about those spandex pants...that d00d is sexier
> than...well...everything known to man, except Angela Lansbury, but
> that goes
> without saying!
> 
> (Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any
> nominations?)
> (Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)
> 
> 
> *sm:)es*
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and with every CD purchased Richie sells a tank of nitrous at detriot 
parties


>From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
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>Subject: RE: [mw] Richie Hawtin
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:35:38 -0500
>
> >I heard he's coming out with a new mix cd on Mute!  Does anyone know
> >when this is gonna to be released?
>
>Yeah, I think it'll be out in December or something. I heard it's
>called DECKSFX909
>
>or something
>
>just what i heard though
>
>ricA

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Well maybe someone butt smugled the tank in, I know my hole would not facilitate
that but my friend Mike has a huge butt, maybe he snuck it in.....the world may
never know...                phil

Griggles wrote:

> What I want to know is, how did someone manage to (sneak?!?!?!) in a
> 75 pound, 5 foot tall tank of nitrous?  I had to argue with the guy at
> the door for five minutes before I convinced him that I was in fact
> selling tapes (even though I was carrying a couple hundred at the
> time) and needed to be allowed back in after I put them in the car.
>
> Did I miss some gun waving?  Were there shots fired?  Did Ritchie
> threaten to bust a cap in 'dat ass if they didn't let him in?
>
> May the thread be with you, always.
> one love,
> Greg
>
> -->
> -->
> -->
> -->----Original Message Follows----
> -->From: Efasting@aol.com
> -->To: kerokeroppi25@hotmail.com
> -->Subject: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS
> -->Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:35:02 EDT
> -->
> -->
> -->SAM PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL!
> -->
> -->
> -->Hello Detroit,
> -->INFINITY Thanks everyone who came out to TRANCEFORMERS.....Lets clear some
> -->stuff up. As far as NITROUS TANKS go, well apparently the TANK that was
> -->brought into my party was brought by TWO guys from the other party....I wont
> -->say who it was because we all know who it was. Whoever was commenting in the
> -->earlier emails about me allowing nitrous @ the party, well simple
> -->put....That
> -->was the only thing you could find to BITCH about. Which is really funny when
> -->it was your people who got into my party and started selling it!!!!!!! That
> -->fucking blows me away.
> -->I just want to say that I proved everyone wrong in Detroit, as far as
> -->promoters go. Most promoters said I had would BOMB at this party, I would
> -->loose my ass, loose support and everything else....2,000 KIDS PROVED
> -->EVERYONE
> -->WRONG, and so DID INFINITY. GET READY DETROIT BECAUSE INFINITY IS SLOWING
> -->BRINGING IT ALL BACK
> -->
> -->  THANK YOU,
> -->
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RITCHIE HAWTIN IS DEAD.

well somebody had to say it.

rave on.
Greg

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

-->>I SAW RICA SELL A BALOON TO RICHIE AT DREAMFEST. TRUE FACT.
-->
-->This is true. See, we used to kick it back in the day. After tours and 
-->shit and me living in Germany for a few years, I thought it'd be cool 
-->to catch up on it all with mah boy by sharing a ballon.
-->
-->You are wrong about one thing though, i didn't sell it to him. We 
-->"traded".
-->
-->umm.....yeah....that's it
-->
-->ricA
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yeah, I heard he shot Dj Funk!

<ducks!>

pixie


> RITCHIE HAWTIN IS DEAD.
> 
> well somebody had to say it.
> 
> rave on.
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Apparently one of phil's friends attempted to butt smuggle a nitrous tank
into a party and with all the extreme forces that are involved in the
whole nitrous-tank-butt-smuggling process something finally just gave way
shooting poor phil's friend one way (anal sphincter ripped to shreads)
and the nitrous tank another way.  Ritchie got nailed in the head and as
Greg so eloquently stated.......................


> RITCHIE HAWTIN IS DEAD.
> 
> well somebody had to say it.
> 
> rave on.
> Greg

 
>Well maybe someone butt smugled the tank in, I know my hole would not
facilitate
>that but my friend Mike has a huge butt, maybe he snuck it in.....the
world may
>never know...                phil
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Sad but true.  Detroit is all but done for.  The death of the
originator of PLUR (not to mention the man who discovered you could
get a wicked buzz on if you just jam tanks of compressed gas up your
rectum) has left Detroit wandering aimlessly.  Directionless.  It's
just going to be sex, drugs and gabber house in The D from now on.

Those of us 'in the know' will be attending his super-secretive
funeral sometime early next week.  For the rest of you, you can pay
your respects Oct 2nd as I Wish I Was Old School Productions brings
you RICHIE HAWTIN'S FUNERAL.  

On display for y'all will be some of the world's greatest techno
talent, not to mention what's left of Mr. Hawtin in an open casket.  
The legendary Plastikamn will be doing a once in an after-lifetime
performance of his new show Death, EFX, and Formaldehyde.  Free
nitrous and GHB for everyone!!!

In addition, the Mob Style Tactics Production Collective gives you
their word that this will be a 100% MW-Raves Free, Suck Free line
up.  The party will be held in a 100% illegal venue approximately a
block and a half from Detroit's largest Dunkin Donuts.  GUARANTEED TO
GO ALL NIGHT!

*disclaimer*

Any similarity between DJ's real or imaginary mentioned on the flyer
and those that will actually perform, is purely coincidental.

Elvis has left the building.

Rock over Detroit
Rave on Doris
Hello Cleveland, Rock and Roll

one love,
Greg


On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Omega Variant wrote:

-->Apparently one of phil's friends attempted to butt smuggle a nitrous tank
-->into a party and with all the extreme forces that are involved in the
-->whole nitrous-tank-butt-smuggling process something finally just gave way
-->shooting poor phil's friend one way (anal sphincter ripped to shreads)
-->and the nitrous tank another way.  Ritchie got nailed in the head and as
-->Greg so eloquently stated.......................
-->
-->
-->> RITCHIE HAWTIN IS DEAD.
-->> 
-->> well somebody had to say it.
-->> 
-->> rave on.
-->> Greg
-->
--> 
-->>Well maybe someone butt smugled the tank in, I know my hole would not
-->facilitate
-->>that but my friend Mike has a huge butt, maybe he snuck it in.....the
-->world may
-->>never know...                phil
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> >I heard he's coming out with a new mix cd on Mute!  Does anyone know
> >when this is gonna to be released?
> 
> Yeah, I think it'll be out in December or something. I heard it's 
> called DECKSFX909

i hear the import japanese version comes out in october. 

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now i've been flooded with the people on both sides of the GHB issue and frankly like any drug you can OD but with liquid E its easyer and more deadly
but with all drugs you can't die from them 
jeuse christ you can die from to much vitamin C (in mass doses ofcourse, it causes build up of crystals and that can kill you if it reaches your brain)
Also with any drug in moderation it can be good.
about half of you said it was good and half bad(mainly from indy) you can also die from E in other forms too, heart problmes like faulty values.
Ravers need to learn that mixing and over doing it can kill you but some of you need that ruse well you'll die eventualy and them you can't complain that just one drug isn't enough.


Please Tolorance and Moderation and PLUR as well


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PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:

> > > DO NOT BRING GHB TO INDIANAPOLIS.  YOU WILL BE DEALT WITH SEVERELY.
> >
>
> ok, two words...right the fukk on, ok that was four...sorry
> <<<snip snip>>>

>
> <<<snip snip>>>
> there are two major motivators in life, FEAR and PROFIT, since the profit of
> not looking like an ass (which you do on G) and the profit of not dying is
> not appealing to these brainless assholes...therefore one must use fear...
> **lora**

see that is my point about violence breeding more violence, first the people
selling the G most likely are not doing it.  considering the effects of GHB, i
think it would be kind of hard to be hardcore wheeling and dealing the dope, or
in this case GHB, and at the same time floored from the GHB, or at the very
least in a stupor. second, if the person selling really was afraid he was going
to die by the hands of some anti-GHB murderer, he would either, A) stay away as
you say, or B) come prepared for war.  don't always assume the bigger, badder,
more experienced, and undefeated warrior will win, need we forget our own
countries history; The Independence War, or Vietnam.  if 'A' happens we will all
be better off and i agree with you, but 'B' is just as likely to happen and if
it does it goes again and supports my violence breeding violence theory.

another thing to think about is, do you know the intentions of the person
selling the GHB, a lot of drug dealers enjoy supplying people with their vices
and the short-lived happiness that is brought to them, and maybe making a profit
meanwhile, but in most cases, dealers are not making a lot of money, but instead
supporting their own habit.  so here we have a guy who has no intention of
hurting anyone, after all most forms of dope dealing are victimless crimes,
unless the dealer is standing there holding a 9 mm to your head while yelling
"SHOOT THE DOPE MUTHAFUCKA GODAMIT SHOOT IT NOW!!!"  while on the other hand we
have GHB Vigilantes on the loose with the intention of premeditated violence, or
even murder.  need i say more on the topic of who is more fukked


> and can you please, please, please get rid of that huge sig.?
> thanx...

there i cut it down just for you, and you should feel special, as i have been
bitched at for months on end about my .sig file being too long and did nothing,
but you asked very nicely  ; P

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Barney Rubble wrote:

> Ok, I met this girl named Calista at dreamfest and she gave me her # to
> give her a call.  But, she forgot the area code.  Does anyone in the
> springfield area know what area code would go with an 865 prefix.  Any
> help would be much appreciated.

217 is the area code for the Springfield area...if she lives even remotely
close to Springfield this will be it as Springfield sits pretty much in the
middle of this area code

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Yeah thats right the choo-choo chemical biological brotherz are playing some 
of their ass-kickin southern rock in St. Louis this thursday Sept 30th and 
you can come for them, but you'll really be cumming for and all over the 
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the scheduled release date is november 2, 1999.

artists in the mix:

Ratio
G. Flame & Mr. G
Richard Harvey
Grain 1
Lost
Grain 2
Jeff Mills
Richie Hawtin
Nitzer Ebb
Ben Simms
Surgeon
Pacou
Heiko Laux
Baby Ford & Eon
Savvas Ysatis
Stewart S. Walker
M
Max Ernst & Vladislav Delay
Thor
Marco Carola
Quadrant 1
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> the scheduled release date is november 2, 1999.
> 

woohoo!  that's my birthday!  all of you care!  ;)

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>ok i completely agree with you about people should not be selling GHB and 
>that
>it is a fukked drug but the way you are going about it is the same way the
>government would, by first outlawing it, then second, using force and 
>violence
>or punishment or fear of punishment to deal with the problem...number one
>violence only breeds more violence, if i was a GHB dealer and i was coming 
>to
>Indy and i read this, the only thing it would make me do is come more 
>prepared
>as in weapons or a bigger posse, because what you have to understand is the
>people that sell GHB are in it for the money and nothing will stop them 
>from
>trying to make that money, and here's the key, AS LONG AS THE DEMAND IS
>THERE...which brings me to number 2, the government chooses to deal with 
>drugs
>by incarcerating the supplier, but as everyone knows as long as there is a
>demand there will be a supply no matter how asses you kick, what needs to 
>happen
>is educate people so that the need or want is not there, where there is no 
>need
>or want there will be no supply because money cannot be made there...i 
>don't
>know about anyone else on here but this makes perfect sense to me...ok i 
>will
>shut up now and quit rambling and shiva this was not meant as a flame!!!

okay...here we go...
number one: if i were going the government route, i would have the fuckers 
arrested.  i don't believe in the "war on drugs" as our government definees 
it, so i will not give anyone to the system.  i believe in "self-policing" 
and i think it's something our scene desperately needs.

number two: if there was such a "demand" for GHB, wouldn't the people taking 
it KNOW the NAME of the drug they are ingesting?  most of the people i have 
met all fucked up on GHB, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TAKING.  so much 
for the demand argument.

number three: i have personally seen the effects of GHB on a human and i 
have consoled friends who have LOST friends because of this drug.  if you 
bring GHB to a party and sell it to CHILDREN, that makes you a murderer in 
my eyes.  you can preach PLUR all day long, and the fact is that assholes 
don't respond to it.  maybe violence begets violence, but sitting on your 
ass and LETTING shit happen doesn't affect anything either.

i care about the kids in our scene (even when they annoy me).  I WILL NOT 
SIT BY AND WATCH THEM KILL THEMSELVES.  AND I WILL NOT SIT BY AND WATCH 
ANYONE ELSE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO DO IT.  the fact is that the only reason 
this scene is so embroiled in the drug culture is because NOBODY HAS THE 
BALLS TO STOP IT.  bring on the fucking "posses".  they may be bigger and 
well armed, but i'm smarter and more creative.

we ran GHB out of this town before and i'll be damned if we can't do it 
again.  maybe some people won't like my methodology...too bad.  someone HAS 
to take a stand.  the future of our culture and our friends is at stake.  
i'm willing to put my ass (and possibly my life if i come up against some 
real asshole) to protect both.  can you honestly say the same?

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>whats the deal
>i hear alot of you want to beat down the GHB people
>i understand you don't like what they sell but please just tolorate them.

ummm...what?

oh...i know you guys don't like child molesters and all, but aren't we about 
PLUR?  just tolerate them.

it's insipid, hal-baked hippy-dippy psuedo-philosophy like this that gets us 
nowhere...

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>whats the deal
>i hear alot of you want to beat down the GHB people
>i understand you don't like what they sell but please just tolorate them.

ummm...what?

oh...i know you guys don't like child molesters and all, but aren't we about 
PLUR?  just tolerate them.

it's insipid, half-baked hippy-dippy psuedo-philosophy like this that gets 
us nowhere...

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>Ya, it's kinda funny.  People are freaking out... yet, there's heroin,
>coke, crystal, crack... hell who KNOWs what around.  Each of those being
>extrememly addictive, just as harmful, and 6 times as prevalent.  I mean,
>come ON peeps... have you SEEN some o' our little raver friends all geeked
>out on glass for like 4 or 5 days?  THAT is scary.

to be perfectly honest, i feel exactly the same way about powders as i do 
about GHB...

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>Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually researched or (gasp!) tried
>GHB?  The couple times I tried it wasn't that bad.  Why does everyone treat
>it like some physical entity whose sole purpose is to single-handedly fuck
>the rave scene anally with a 40 foot spruce tree?

the problem is not the drug itself.  the problem is the idiots distributing 
it and the ignorance of the people taking it.  it's like the difference 
between giving someone a drop of liquid LSD and puddling them with it and 
the person who got puddled not knowing that they should just go home and 
sleep now...

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>Seriously though, the Indy scene is very tight & I think most kids will
>quickly recognize who is dealing "G" & reject them.  There is little profit
>where there are few buyers & eventually the risk of possibly getting one's
>ass kicked for a $40 night begins to persuade dealers to move on.

what's funny is that the last time i saw a grrl all fugged up on GHB and 
went lookin for the dealer, i found out that someone else had beaten me to 
'em.  indy had some BAAAAD experiences with GHB a few years back and it 
seems that we have not forgotten.

i'm sorry so many people find my methods crude, but think of it this way:

if someone hurt someone that you care about, would you "tolerate" them?  
probably most people's first reaction would be to hurt them back.  maybe 
it's not the politically correct or even "right" (how subjective a term), 
but it's the reality.  my point was that if GHB dealers stay away, then 
there will be no problems.  i stand by that.

does anyone think i LIKE violence?  hell no...philosophically i would LOVE 
to be a pacifist.  but the reality is that when the powers that be will 
inflict force upon us to further their goals, non-violent pc PLUR waving 
doesn't protect us.

power concedes to nothing but power.

shiva

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No, I'm not tlakin about muther fuckin Richie.
Every time you say "a few years ago" everyone drops their fuckin' jaws and 
starts squealin' "Richie" "Richie"
People actually threw parties BEFORE Richie (GASP!)



LMFAO!!!!   whoa!!  bite my fuckin head off why dont cha!?  it was just a 
question....hmm...do you have  a little hostility??  who's head is up your 
bung??  its ok...i think you might be ok....just *maybe* tho...i hope you 
feel better...  :-D  i think maybe....hows your sex life?  going down hill?  
maybe thats whats upsetting you...listen...im just fucking with you but all i 
did was ask a simple question and theres no need to be a cunt about it...ya 
know?  LoL...later on brutha >:(  grr*  dont be so angry haha*

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At 03:00 28-9-99 -0500, you wrote:

>anyone know the meat url?

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/mmmMEAT/

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Well, it seems I need to make my yearly post correcting a lot of the
misinformation flowing on GHB.  Call this the easy primer to GHB.  However,
I highly suggest that you research the topic yourselves.

Facts:

As far as I know there has never been a death due to toxicity from GHB.  If
you read a report from a ME or doctor saying someone died from GHB they are
wrong, or, more accurately, they are being imprecise (see next fact).

There have been occasional deaths associated with ancillary effects of GHB
(i.e.. choking deaths from unexpelled vomitus)

Until the early 1990's GHB was available OTC.  In most civilized countries
it still is.

GHB does not any way shape or form influence the autonomous nervous system.
(i.e.. it does not effect your breathing)

GHB does not induce coma.  never has never will.  For some people at high
dosages, It will induce a state of profoundly deep sleep, from which a
person may not be able to be awaken.  This however is a normal, albeit very
deep, sleep.  It is neurologically distinct from the coma state.

GHB does synergize with a variety of drugs including alcohol and CNS
depressants.  Be very careful what you mix and match!!!!!!

GHB is good for you!!!!!  It has a number of highly beneficial effects.  It
upregulates production of GH and to a lesser extent estrogen, possibly the
other steroids as well.  It has dramatic antidepressant effects.  The
hormonal effects lead to a number of positive physiological changes such as
enhanced muscle mass and decreased body fat.

Most GHB available at raves is probably made by utter idiots and
consequently has an unknown quality which could lead to danger.

GHB has an extremely idiosyncratic dose response curve.  (i.e.. the "proper
dosage" is different for everyone)

Fortunately, once established dose response is consist for individuals.
However, see above regarding idiot chemists.

In some states, moronic, deluded, and/or politically motivated legislatures
have made GHB illegal.

Contrary to popular belief, GHB has little utility as a date rape drug.  It
lacks to amnesia like states induced by other so called date rape drugs.
You may pass out but you won't forget.  Alcohol is more effective in this
regard.

OPINIONS

GHB is be available OTC.
Many individuals would benefit from daily supplementation with GHB

The reason that it is not is due to drug companies' desire to maintain
profit margin.

As a biochemist and an avid devote of nutrition and "supplyside biochemistry
(tm)," I consider the removal of GHB from OTC status to be criminal.  The
government is deny its citizens access to vital life enhancing technology.
Call it assault by omission.






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whats wrong with chicago pussy?


>From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
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>
> >woohoo!!  mittens!  ain't no pussy like her!!
>
>ain't no pussy like detroit pussy cuz chicago pussy ain't shit
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 00:31:16 1999
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i told you already, no matter how many pills you give us me and pixie are 
*not* going to make out....
**lora**


>I nominate Lora and my friend curt's cat (kari)
>
>On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, PLUR me ROTTEN wrote:
>
> >
> > >(Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any nominations?)
> > >(Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)
> > >
> >
> > i nominate pixie and dica's cat *mittens*
> > **lora**
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 00:37:41 1999
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www.hamsterdance.com

i can't believe nobody's ever posted this before! it's so cute!

candy chris

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 00:39:03 1999
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ok, im not going to point/counterpoint with you....we all have the same goal 
and different ways of getting to that goal....my mama says sometimes the 
journey is just as important as the destination (i also think pooh said 
thatin the last chapter of the tao of pooh)
anyway....point is...be safe....and that shiva is a badass who i strive to 
be more like every day...
and thank you for shortening that sig
**lora**


> > and can you please, please, please get rid of that huge sig.?
> > thanx...
>
>there i cut it down just for you, and you should feel special, as i have 
>been
>bitched at for months on end about my .sig file being too long and did 
>nothing,
>but you asked very nicely  ; P
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>As long as government exists...PEACE CANNOT
>All government, all law and authority finally rests on force & violence,
>on punishment or fear of punishment...
>TEAR IT DOWN & LET THE TRUTH BEGIN!!!   F.T.W.
>
>I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
>and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
>your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
>I am chaos.  I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.
>
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>ICQ# 23795954
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>
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I have not been paying attention the last couple of days...but as you all 
knw i am always looking for an excuse to take my clothes off...so someone 
fillme in and i will try to stay 1/2 clothed :)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 00:50:54 1999
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to be perfectly honest, i dont know why were getting naked either...
who cares tho? wanna make out?
hehe
**lora**

>I have not been paying attention the last couple of days...but as you all 
>knw i am always looking for an excuse to take my clothes off...so someone 
>fillme in and i will try to stay 1/2 clothed :)
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:10:06 CDT "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
writes:
>oh...i know you guys don't like child molesters and all, but aren't we 
>about 
>PLUR?  just tolerate them.
>
>it's insipid, hal-baked hippy-dippy psuedo-philosophy like this that 
>gets us 
>nowhere...

and it's senseless violence that continues to keep us from becoming truly
enlightened...

first off... comparing child molestors to GHb dealers is quite a leap...
child molesters are truly taking advantage of the helpless...

and as for this "half-baked, hippy-dippy" philosophy that you speak of...
well, i would like to point out that a stance of non-violence has created
much change in this world.  Would you call the views of Ghandi and MLK
Jr. half-baked????  

yes folks... some of us truly believe in non-violence... i don't see what
beating down a drug dealer can accomplish accept the very real
possibility of retaliation.  If you find a GHB dealer at a party, the
responsible thing is to have them removed from the party, or even *gasp*
turn them over to the proper authorities.  

i'm sorry... but even though you may find yourself just in your own mind,
that does not justify the use of violence.  violence breeds hatred breeds
revenge.  

peace...

-pm-

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dj shiva wrote:

> if someone hurt someone that you care about, would you "tolerate" them?
> probably most people's first reaction would be to hurt them back.  maybe
> it's not the politically correct or even "right" (how subjective a term),
> but it's the reality.  my point was that if GHB dealers stay away, then
> there will be no problems.  i stand by that.

let's see now you have this GHB dealer at this party and he is walking around
all hunchbacked and looking really shady muttering to himself "hmmm i wonder how
many little raver boys and girls i can knock off tonight and bring home...oh yes
master will be so proud of me!" or even a pretty normal looking party kid with
thoughts of mass homicide racing through their synapses as they sell yet another
vial of GHB. yeh fukkin right, fuk politically correct and fuk the word right or
wrong, how is this, in my most humble opinion the person you should be upset
with is the dumbass who drank the GHB, not knowing for sure what it was, what
the effects were, but actually they did it all in the name of escaping or
altering reality.

also if doing away with GHB in the Indy scene equates eliminating all problems,
as you have stated above, then godamn you guys have one helluva scene
there...isn't it funny how just one molecular compound can hinder so many in
achieving perfection


> does anyone think i LIKE violence?  hell no...philosophically i would LOVE
> to be a pacifist.  but the reality is that when the powers that be will
> inflict force upon us to further their goals, non-violent pc PLUR waving
> doesn't protect us.

so your gonna tell me this GHB dealer forced the person to drink it, i mean
threatened them with bodily harm or even knocked them out and poured it down
their throats...i can hardly imagine this happening but that is what you are
describing when you state, "but the reality is that when the powers that be will
inflict force upon us to further their goals"


> power concedes to nothing but power.

absolute power corrupts absolutely...if you would have all power concede to your
power then you would have absolute power...heil shiva ***clicks his jackboots
and extends his arm up***

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As long as government exists...PEACE CANNOT
All government, all law and authority finally rests on force & violence,
on punishment or fear of punishment...
TEAR IT DOWN & LET THE TRUTH BEGIN!!!   F.T.W.

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.

Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani
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dj shiva wrote:

> okay...here we go...
> number one: if i were going the government route, i would
have the fuckers
> arrested.  i don't believe in the "war on drugs" as our
government defines
> it, so i will not give anyone to the system.  i believe in
"self-policing"
> and i think it's something our scene desperately needs.

i completely agree, but who are you to pick and choose what
id right and what is
wrong?  there are other drugs, which are much more plentiful
and much more
deadly circulating in the scene every day, in fact no matter
where you go drugs,
in one way or another are prevalent in all forms and levels
of society...mankind
itself, for the most part,  has come to believe that it is a
molecular isolating
and chemical compounding genius, with all drugs whether they
be legal or
illicit, finally achieving one ends, and that is altering or
changing ones
reality, whether it be physically, mentally, emotionally, or
even intellectually



> number two: if there was such a "demand" for GHB, wouldn't
the people taking
> it KNOW the NAME of the drug they are ingesting?  most of
the people i have
> met all fucked up on GHB, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY WERE
TAKING.  so much for
> the demand argument.

unfortunately within our scene there is a high demand for,
let's not say drugs,
but instead a high demand for altering one's reality.  names
really don't mean a
damn thing when it comes down to it, yeh names are nice if
in fact you are
getting what the person is supposedly calling it. 99% of the
time when drugs are
done illicitly, you in fact do not know for sure what they
are, unless you walk
around with one of those police test kits or a laboratory
with a full-scale gas
chromatography in your backpack.  how do you figure there is
no demand, if there
was no demand no one would have done any GHB and we wouldn't
arguing right now.
also let's look at who you should be pissed at, some guy
walking around selling
unknown chemical compounds or the person who buys these
unknown compounds and
ingests it on Joe Blow's word that "It's da bomb!"  you know
the largest killer
of young people ages 16-23 is alcohol, why then don't you go
to your local
liquor store or convenience store and knock the shit outta
the clerk who is no
different than a dealer when it comes down to it

> number three: i have personally seen the effects of GHB on
a human and i
> have consoled friends who have LOST friends because of
this drug.  if you
> bring GHB to a party and sell it to CHILDREN, that makes
you a murderer in
> my eyes.  you can preach PLUR all day long, and the fact
is that assholes
> don't respond to it.  maybe violence begets violence, but
sitting on your
> ass and LETTING shit happen doesn't affect anything
either.

you yourself said you are one for policing oneself, children
who have not gained
the maturity to police oneself should not be in the type of
environment that
requires policing of oneself without parental supervision.
god knows when i have
ever seen a child at a party, maybe young adults, or even
teenagers but to use
the word 'child', in most peoples minds would be a person of
say elementary
school age.  GHB alone, by itself, has never been attributed
to not even one
death.  yes it has been found the bodies of people who have
died, along with
multiple other chemical substances.  the absolute worst
thing that has ever been
attributed to GHB has been being comatose for several hours,
in other words
unconscious.  also i DO NOT preach PLUR, i think PLUR is a
crock of candy-raver
bullshit, shit i don't even believe peace could exist in
society today (see .sig
file)


> i care about the kids in our scene (even when they annoy
me).  I WILL NOT
> SIT BY AND WATCH THEM KILL THEMSELVES.  AND I WILL NOT SIT
BY AND WATCH ANYONE
> ELSE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO DO IT.  the fact is that the
only reason this
> scene is so embroiled in the drug culture is because
NOBODY HAS THE
> BALLS TO STOP IT.  bring on the fucking "posses".  they
may be bigger and well
> armed, but i'm smarter and more creative.

i am glad to hear that someone actually cares anymore, and i
respect you for
this.  but you can only do so much without infringing on
another's rights as a
human being.  if someone wants to kill themselves, no matter
by what means they
do it, that is their right, it is THEIR life, NOT YOURS!!!
as far as someone
giving them the tools to do it, again it is not the
intention of most people
selling or giving away drugs to be the blacksmith of suicide
or murder.  the
tools are everywhere, shit you better ban Ginsu knives
because, you know they
are the knife of choice 9 times out of 10 when slashing your
wrists.

the fact that this scene is embroiled in the drug subculture
is because that is
the way it originated, not because nobody has the balls to
stop it.  drugs have
been there since the first underground outlaw break-in party
was thrown, since
the original HOUSE parties in chicago.  ever stop and think
about the slang and
names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
named that because of
hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
made you feel as
though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
you gotta
understand maybe in the beginning there wasn't the wide
array of dope that is
available now, but that is contributed to evolution, and the
fact that
everything is progressive.  it was only a matter of time!!!

> we ran GHB out of this town before and i'll be damned if
we can't do it
> again.  maybe some people won't like my methodology...too
bad.  someone HAS
> to take a stand.  the future of our culture and our
friends is at stake.
> i'm willing to put my ass (and possibly my life if i come
up against some
> real asshole) to protect both.  can you honestly say the
same?

so now you think that your gonna be a rave superhero and rid
the scene of drugs,
well guess what, if you do succeed and overcome a million to
one odds, then what
have you got?  not the same rave scene it was from the
beginning and is now
because again drugs are an integral part of the rave
subculture, you take them
away and manage to keep them away, you have not cleansed the
scene of its
impurities, what you have done is created a new subculture.
i don't know what
you will call it, 'straight edge' is already taken, but good
luck and have fun
and you have my utmost respect as being an 'originator'.  as
far as the future
of our culture, well cultures come and go, the rave
subculture is getting pretty
well played out and sold out.  i used to think that 'selling
out' and
'commercialization' was bad, not anymore because that is
what keeps things
constantly evolving.  the cutting edge can only be found in
the morphing shadows
of the underground, where constant imagination osmosis keeps
things from
becoming stagnant, it has no name but only what the
dominator culture and
product peddlers will refer to it as next week, month, and
year.

ok i think that i have said enough, wondering if i have said
too much...oh well
that's why there is a delete key on the computer

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As long as government exists...PEACE CANNOT
All government, all law and authority finally rests on force
& violence,
on punishment or fear of punishment...
TEAR IT DOWN & LET THE TRUTH BEGIN!!!   F.T.W.

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.

Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani
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hey you'd be cranky if you were on fire too.


> LMFAO!!!!   whoa!!  bite my fuckin head off why dont cha!?  it was just a 
> question....hmm...do you have  a little hostility??  who's head is up your 
> bung??  its ok...i think you might be ok....just *maybe* tho...i hope you 
> feel better...  :-D  i think maybe....hows your sex life?  going down hill?  
> maybe thats whats upsetting you...listen...im just fucking with you but all i 
> did was ask a simple question and theres no need to be a cunt about it...ya 
> know?  LoL...later on brutha >:(  grr*  dont be so angry haha*
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  while on the other hand we
>have GHB Vigilantes on the loose with the intention of premeditated 
>violence, or
>even murder.  need i say more on the topic of who is more fukked

ahem...were you quoting me directly or do you just enjoy putting words in my 
mouth?

if someone were to break into your house with the intention of robbing you, 
but instead not only takes your money, but threatens bodily harm, would you 
not defend your home against the invasion?

i am not going out in search of GHB dealers, nor am i threatening murder.  
what i said is if they bring their shit (and this goes for powders and nasty 
drugs sold under the guise of ecstacy too) into a scene that i have been a 
part of and worked hard to build and protect, then i will do my best to 
drive them out BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.  unless you have a better idea (PLUR 
them to death maybe?  or chase them with teletubbies til they cry?), the 
only way i know is to toss 'em out on their asses and kick said asses if 
they give me any shit.  sorry that i have fallen off the esteemed PLUR wagon 
(like i was ever on it), but it seems that some of you are missing my point.

we give so much lip service to Peace, Love, Unity and Respect, but how many 
of you are willing to put your ass on the line to protect the people around 
you?

how exactly do you find PEACE in young kids twitching on the floor from 
overdoses that never should have happened?

where's the LOVE in turning the other way while our friends destroy their 
lives for a quick fix?

what kind of UNITY do we have when we can't even make a collective 
realization that we are being torn apart by greed and self-destruction?

and RESPECT?  how respectful is it to blame me for my anger at seeing kids 
lives destroyed when you can't even look the real problem in its face?  
you'd rather jump down my throat than go after the greedy bastards who rape 
this scene for money and leave burnt out shells when they're gone!

you can sit here and try to tear me down with so many "violence breeds 
violence" philosophical ramblings, but how come you're not expending the 
same amount of energy on stopping the bastards who've brought us to this 
point?

because you're either afraid or you don't really give a shit.  and i'll be 
honest, some of these thuglike characters pushing drugs DO scare me.  why?  
because they have no respect for human life.  but i do.  and that's why i 
can't let this go.  no matter what the risk.  because i DO give a shit.

you're either part of the solution, or you're part of the problem.  and i 
sure as fuck am not gonna sit back on my lazy, apathetic ass and watch the 
problem escalate. sorry if that bugs you.

shiva

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I remember when Ryan Died at Free-e then the promoter made those I died at 
Free-e shirts, that promoters a weird guy. Anyways i freaked my case out when 
i saw a dead guy at A New Beginning, I mean EVERYONE was so sure the guy was 
dead, I see him at every fucken party. Have you seen the video clipping at 
WWW.ianhardrecords.com?
Ryan speaks out on GHB.

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i was actually walking up to the partie right with the people bringin in =
the
tank. all they did was knock on the side door that was to the right of wh=
ere
they were inside the partie. some dude opened up the door, let the people=
 with
nitrous related materials in, and made sure he kept out the rest of us (w=
ell,
of course we tried to get in with them!) sorry... no butt smuggling or ot=
her
creativeness. they were let in by security.

plur,
Jason

  Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:44:18 -0400
  From: Phil Pompa <ac5861@wayne.edu>
  Subject: Re: [mw] Re: [Midwest-Trance] Fwd: THE TRUTH ON TRANCEFORMERS

  Well maybe someone butt smugled the tank in, I know my hole would not
facilitate
  that but my friend Mike has a huge butt, maybe he snuck it in.....the w=
orld
may
  never know... phil

  Griggles wrote:

  > What I want to know is, how did someone manage to (sneak?!?!?!) in a
  > 75 pound, 5 foot tall tank of nitrous? I had to argue with the guy at=

  > the door for five minutes before I convinced him that I was in fact
  > selling tapes (even though I was carrying a couple hundred at the
  > time) and needed to be allowed back in after I put them in the car.
  >
  > Did I miss some gun waving? Were there shots fired? Did Ritchie
  > threaten to bust a cap in 'dat ass if they didn't let him in?
  >
  > May the thread be with you, always.
  > one love,
  > Greg
  >
  > -->
  > -->

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 long
run of history, the censor and the inquisitor have always lost. The only
weapon against bad ideas is better ones" ~~Whitney Griswold

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Im sure as hell glad my boi didnt die.  He's one of my best friends, scoop is 
evil.

-josh

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DJ Funk's got it all, and he won't even share with Paul Johnson. New kids,
fuck 'em.

Matt

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, vaL vaLenzo* wrote:

> whats wrong with chicago pussy?
> 
> 
> >From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
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> > >woohoo!!  mittens!  ain't no pussy like her!!
> >
> >ain't no pussy like detroit pussy cuz chicago pussy ain't shit
> >
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Maybe when you die from an OD it is all part of some weird cosmic
evolutionary process.  The stupid ones dies off first so their genes wont be
past on to the next generation of humanoids (I think they have recently
found the genes for coke addiction).  IF they lived through an OD
maybe they learned a lesson or maybe it happened for some weird higher
purpose that cannot be understood by your average joe...Drugs are gonna be
around for a long time and I doubt GHB will be going away.  How come you
aint cracking down on meth and smack and shit?  I see those are more
dangerous drugs than GHB.  Shit how about making parties 18+,
that will get rid of alot of "cracked out candy raverz"  Personally, I don't
understand why a 13 yr old would start using drugs that early in the first
place.  Shit whatever happen to good ole imagination; that was my fucking
drug of choice until I was 17.
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i though the springfield area code was 417...? 
oh well
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Ahem, Sorry. I sayed i was going to shadup. But the promoter kids knew 
that the tanks were going to be there, and had no problem with it. Thats 
what upsets me. Ok, im done now.

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:

> Well, I've abreviated the list of mailing lists that are gonna receive
> this email, cuz I'm not on any of the others... so anyway...
> First off I didn't go to this party.  Never been to a party in Detroit.
> Don't think I want to with a bunch of friggin' moronic (seemingly)
> promotion companies that can't come together and support one another.  Ya
> ya, I know, who fuckin' cares if I come... not the point.  Support your
> d@mn town and all the companies that try to do a little something.  Even
> if they are "here today, gone tomorrow" groups.  As long as they can thow
> an event that's nice, damn, back off!    
> You all can reply back and forth all day to my opinion on that, saying no
> it's his fault no it's his fault no it's his fault... but please don't.  I
> don't care.  
> more below......
> 
> On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Steven Vansteenkiste wrote:
> 
> >     LISTEN UP, DUMBASS...
> > The guys who brought the tanks into your party WERE SURE AS FUCK NOT FROM 33 
> > 1/3 OR SINDICATE OR WHATEVER. They were, however, Detroit promoters.
> 
> Great.  So it wasn't 33-1/3.  Infinity ent was wrong.  They shouldn't o'
> come out pointing fingers.  Now that's established... why should these two
> that DID bring the tank have the right too?  I don't care if they were
> fucking licking warehouse walls clean when I was pushing my little red
> wagon down the street.  Do they feel that they should have the right to
> make back all that money that they didn't make when they were 'making the
> detroit scene'?  pshaww... whatever.  They shoulda asked.  They shoulda
> made sure that infinity knew who they were.  And whoever it was from the
> other party that was complaining about Tranceformer having tanks should be
> ~~all happy (since they are apparently one of the companies that have been
> 'around for a while'), as Infinity was apparently supporting the guys that
> have been throwing parties so long that they used to hook "Pong" up to a
> speaker and call it music.~~
> 
> >     The fact that you didn't recognize those kids just proves how much of 
> > newbie, clueless, here today, gone tomorrow, trendy, suburban, candy-ass, 
> > trance-loving, whiteboy you really are. 
> 
> Hmm... so... since I would most definitely not have recognized either of
> them, I'm a newbie (been partying since 92), clueless (not even going
> there), here today (yup, and yesterday), gone tomorrow (sure if I crash
> and die), trendy (what? whatever), suburban (what??? where the hell does 
> that fit in?  You have to be from the Sahara desert to throw a party?),
> candy-ass (yup just so you can lick it... mmmm mmm tasty eh?),
> tranceloving (oh.. I bet that hurt the Tranceformer company..woo),
> whiteboy (always good to have a little racial stuff going on, eh?).... 
> Dood, get a grip.  We're talking about 2 guys selling N02 at a party...
> Neither of them being you.
> 
> >One of those mystery men with the 
> > tank(s) just happens to be the kid who put Detroit parties on the map. And 
> > no I'm not talking about the "good old days" of 1997. Back up another four 
> > or five years and you're getting close.
> 
> Kewl, but, this is 99.  We're talking about parties that we can all go to
> now.
> 
> >     BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY...
> >     I'M TALKING ABOUT KIDS WHO WERE THWOING PARTIES WHEN ONLY 400 PEOPLE 
> > WOULD SHOW UP AND THERE WAS NO MONEY TO BE MADE BUT THEY DOID IT BECAUSE 
> > THEY LOVED IT.
> 
> Kewl, now they enjoy making money by selling NO2 at parties that someone
> else is spending money to throw.
> Personally I don't care, NO2 rawks.  But please drop the whole 'so
> offended' thing.  The only reason that the post was made was in reply to
> someone saying that Infinity brought the tank.  I didn't hear you jumping
> to the platform when that one was posted...
> 
> > YOU ARE THE REASON I'VE GIVEN UP ON PARTIES in Detroit.
> >     You like this scene? You can have it. Go snort some tweak.
>  
>   Wow, a 'here today, gone tomorrow' company has made you give up on
> Detroit?  While you have the godfathers of the detroit scene going to
> their parties to sell NO2?  You should be bowing down to them. You should
> pay $25 just to get into the party to go worship them!  
>   
>   Man the detroit scene is weird.  
> 
> Krazy kids.
> 
> Gotta go...
> 
> zoom.
> 
> Kale/DreamSequence
> 
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Ogh yea. No dates will be decided at the meetings because it spawns 
aimless bickering.

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:

> When I know about another promotor's meeting going on - which I am almost
> positive that there was one last Monday - I don't know - I am getting my
> date's mixed up probably - but anyways - I will post it on here.  There is
> a hierarchy - i agree in Detroit - but, as in all of the scene's history
> there - there has been.  We have been at the bottom too - that is how it
> is.  Respect there takes time - but I will try and give you some if I
> remember to post the date on here!! - Maureen
> 
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The truth on what happened with louie will be posted on our web page when 
i have time.

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Maureen Patricia McInerney wrote:

> Which is why we were so happy with who came.  We got the club kids there -
> which was cool.  We knew a target audience and we got it - bottom line is
> - both companies would have benefitted if there had been communication.
> right?
> 
>  It
> is just too bad that louie's manager SUCKS! - which is a whole other
> story.    
> 
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, J AC wrote:
> 
> > *Jace takes a big breath before being asked to swallow the following 
> > BULLSHIT*
> > 
> > >we would have nothing to bitch about if the scene was
> > >UNITED.  If ALL of the promotors WENT to the promotor meeting AND
> > >RESPECTED Dates that have been PLANNED.  It is a relatively small scene -
> > 
> > buy a fucking clue, don't make excuses for the fact that you guys don't know 
> > how to throw a fucking party if you expect Lil Louie Vega to draw rave kids 
> > to an event- he is NOT A DRAW IN THE RAVE SCENE, he is a NYC club dj... if 
> > you asked around you would find out he has had similar problems drawing in 
> > other cities, including Chicago.
> > 
> > >alas it has gotten A LOT bigger in the past few years -
> > 
> > how sad for you, that you don't have your small elitist scene anymore (which 
> > prolly only dates back to 95-96- cuz I been going to Detroit since 92 to 
> > party and I never saw your stupid asses at any of those WAREHOUSE parties)
> > 
> > Furthermore, with all the dirt ppl could dig up on you and your friends, I 
> > can't understand for the life of me why you enjoy stoking the drama on a 
> > public email list. Jace, one who knows, at least about you
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________
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I Hope your jokeing =X

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Pixie wrote:

> but wait, I thought Richie invented parties and PLUR???!!
> 
> you mean Richie *isn't* the original candy raver?
> 
> ~I thought so~
> 
> pixie
> 
> 
> > No, I'm not tlakin about muther fuckin Richie.
> > Every time you say "a few years ago" everyone drops their fuckin' jaws and
> > starts squealin' "Richie" "Richie"
> > People actually threw parties BEFORE Richie (GASP!)
> 
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TRANCEFORMERS ROCK!

Way better then GO-BOTS.

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The Ryan speaks out on GHB is in the videos section under Knight LIfe.  The 
reason I made the "I died at Free-e" t-shirts is because people were 
spreading rumors that 4 people died at my party.  They also said they went 
to Ryans' funeral.  I decided to have some fun with it.  for the record, me 
and Ryan whatever are good friends now.  Even his dad wants a shirt.  People 
can laugh at there mistakes. Signature file for Matt.
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
4600 Chippewa PMB 161
St. louis, Mo.63116
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bad mother fucker
www.ianhardrecords.com
don't take no shit
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I lick assholes for a living
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Have a bad day

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>
>I remember when Ryan Died at Free-e then the promoter made those I died at
>Free-e shirts, that promoters a weird guy. Anyways i freaked my case out 
>when
>i saw a dead guy at A New Beginning, I mean EVERYONE was so sure the guy 
>was
>dead, I see him at every fucken party. Have you seen the video clipping at
>WWW.ianhardrecords.com?
>Ryan speaks out on GHB.
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i think breakbeat era sucks.

boh-RING.


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there is a thread about my CAT on this list.  lord help us all.


now i know how matt+ felt...
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oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"

Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings on 
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The fact that you didn't recognize those kids
just proves how much of  newbie, clueless, here today, gone
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====> That says enuf.


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And don't give me this shit about "but it was all
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ERASE all the previous BULLSHIT when responding to a message!!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 05:59:12 1999
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>oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"
>
>Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings on
>them?

no.


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I AM GHB!

I SUCK BIG BALLS OF PEE PEE DOO DOO   




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Xu wrote:
Education is the key to anything and everything.
***
Yo, that shitz deep, yo.
I be down wit dat shit yo.
Big ups my nigga.
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invented PLUR.

Nuff said.


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dj shiva wrote:
 if you bring GHB to a party and sell it to CHILDREN, that
makes you a murderer in 
 my eyes.

====> I will pose as a cop, take your money, and crush yer
beloved drugs under my Osweegos!!!  
Little bitch as drug dealers.....

the future of our culture and our friends is at stake.  i'm
willing to put my ass (and possibly my life if i come up against
some  real asshole) to protect both.  can you honestly say the
same?

For a friend, yes.
For this scene, no.
This scene does not pay my bills or support my family in any
way. The scene, for me, is just one of MANY facets of my live. If
I drop the scene it goes on without me.....and I without it.

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For Shiva, for all:

Drugs?
Drugs er bad. Mkay?


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guess that just shows what a newbie you are....


<< >oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"
 >Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings on
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<<Dica666:  no. >>

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guess that just shows what a newbie you are....


<< >oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"
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<<Dica666:  no. >>

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Ohhhh hee ha ha ha hoooo hoehehhooooo

Dica!
hee!
You're a friggin' newbie!!!  
OH.... ho ... hee...
oh gawd it hurts.  Please make it stop..
eeee hee he he he heoooo.... hee
oh d@mn, that was good. 
Thanks Robert.

Weren't you leaving?

Kale/DreamSequence

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> guess that just shows what a newbie you are....
> 
> 
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Candy raver. :)

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although i had to work that night, i arrived at the venue around 12, and
immediately noticed n.9 on the decks. stick has been going on & on about
adam since hearing him at love underground oh so long ago, and this was
the first time i got to sample his style. yummy, sir. right up my alley.
roland the bastard was a-w-e-s-o-m-e, chris liberator rocked, punk
floyd,.......... at one point, keith and i met up, and discussed the
music- it was sickening, kids.  grown men reduced to valley chatter- "oh
my GOD! this is like, the best lineup EVER!" [respectful sigh] props to
the kids who threw this party- mike, nick- (the two i know) really
outstanding job. 

pleased to say the "free" stickers made an honorable debut, i have more
kiddies- and for those of you that don't like em', be thankful- i didn't
pull out the zog's sex wax, (quick humps) "yes" stickers, in all their
many colors, biohazard stickers, built-in bra stickers, the list goes on.
for you fans out there, sorry! [i was a lazy raver] find me next time. i
was wearing the phattest scooby doo tee in the known universe- blue
tye-dye with glow-in-the-dark sculls and highlights. mmm, and me work
pants- look for the kid with many colored stains on his cargos, and i got
some blue bangs, and some chick said i look like a furbie- no, babe-
sorry, i don't speak furbish. 

guys n' dolls, we got a great group o' kids here in kc- and props to me
omaha kids as well. maria, nick, robin, brooks, kelly, melissa, julia,
(rides-r-us, eh? ;) jens, mike, wonder twins, six, danny (monkeyboy)
rachel, bird, shalon (who has left us, but promises to visit =( keith,
kelly & troy (troy gave me the coolest candy bracelet ever to grace a
human's wrist) jessse, christy (though you didn't stay long enough dear-)
phoenix, lori, angie, ackphbth. 

if you're a kid that sarge has forgotten momentarily, please send your
virtual slap to:
cannedheat@juno.com

in any case, this party was cooler than glow-in-the-dark scooby-snack
flavored condoms. see you all at elevation! (i hope, i have to work)

-sarge-

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 10:09:36 1999
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christianity is just this scam some buddies of mine thought up awhile
back.

go on, go catch gods fuckin' word.
the shepherd's chapel, nightly in my area on channel 24, not your
ordinary okies.

it's ok, i laughed at first, too.

chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 13:19:30 1999
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In a message dated 9/29/99, 1:49:17 AM, RobertC4me@aol.com writes:
<<oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"

Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings on 
them?>>

I had a shirt that said that said Raves Suck. It had disco crossed out and 
Raves on top of it. I thought it was cool. However, I hear that the "Fuck 
Jungle" shirts were put out by some house DJ (who likes drum and Bass- 
probably because he saw DJ Rap and that D&B is a very popular style of music).

In LA there's the FUCK DEEP HOUSE shirts as well as the FUCK HARDCORE SHIRTS 
that can be found here in Chicago.

I suck!! I fuck!! I do #2!!

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>Thanks Robert.
>
>Weren't you leaving?


you know i think i was under that same assumption...


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For the THIRD TIME!  I'm "THINKING" ABOUT IT!  I'm not sure yet. I like 
making all these new friend though.
-Robert C


<< >Thanks Robert.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 13:51:01 1999
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according to the www.m-nus.com website. Richie is in Milwaukee on Nov. 24
a Wed nite...the day before THanksgiving.


On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, kent christopher wrote:

> the scheduled release date is november 2, 1999.
> 
> artists in the mix:
> 
> Ratio
> G. Flame & Mr. G
> Richard Harvey
> Grain 1
> Lost
> Grain 2
> Jeff Mills
> Richie Hawtin
> Nitzer Ebb
> Ben Simms
> Surgeon
> Pacou
> Heiko Laux
> Baby Ford & Eon
> Savvas Ysatis
> Stewart S. Walker
> M
> Max Ernst & Vladislav Delay
> Thor
> Marco Carola
> Quadrant 1
> Rhythm & Sound
> 
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is this *the* turtle... from pittsburg originally?



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On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 IguanaJKN@aol.com wrote:

> 
> A very good friend of mine, Turtle, almost died from G, he went into a hard 
> G-coma, a lot of people thought he was dead.  Most of you that went to Free*E 
> in St. Louis remember him, i hate it, and please dont do it, it really is 
> evil.
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 14:12:53 1999
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Please hit me back with the details.

thanks

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 14:59:22 1999
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Well since griggles mentioned free ghb, i thought that i would tell you
about some guys I know who were apparently on the news. My friend, who in
turn is a friend of Scott, the point of this story told me this
information, which i can assure you is true. These two boners slipping
into ghb comas on the way home from "Ignition" the shit hole of all shit
holes woke up to find their car out of control. After the driver had
really fucking gone out of it Scottie took control and got  pulled over
with 2, count em' 2 fucking gallons of the shit.  Now Ali is in critical
condition in a fucking g coma and Scottie is facing intent to distribute
and manslaughter just cuz he was with his dealer who may now die. So
basically im not telling any of you what to do except that you may want to
moderate your consumption and definately dont get all fuckt up with yo
dealer.              well peace and if you gonna get fuct up do it
responsibly, remember that fire burns, you can't fly and all that fucking
jazz.  Oh yeah and if you put tanks in your ass keep away from open flames
you dickheads or you'll end up like poor Ritchie.         peace home
slices ,     phil


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 15:20:10 1999
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Well i have absolutely no idea who you are, and even better than that for
you is that i still totally agree with you so in essence you would agree
that I hold the same ideas to be true with little or no bias. You my
friend have already started on a good path because you were able to fully
develop some ideals and a decent imagination before you could or would
choose to poison or waste in on drugs. Drugs are good in some respects,
and they have helped many of us to figure things out faster than others.
They have given us a different perspective on things that some people have
to figure out by other means or perhaps never figure out. Point being, do
what you're gonna do and do it responsibly, and above all be thankfull
that we are not like the other 73.4% of assholes walking around us. peace
Phil




On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Xu wrote:

> Maybe when you die from an OD it is all part of some weird cosmic
> evolutionary process.  The stupid ones dies off first so their genes wont be
> past on to the next generation of humanoids (I think they have recently
> found the genes for coke addiction).  IF they lived through an OD
> maybe they learned a lesson or maybe it happened for some weird higher
> purpose that cannot be understood by your average joe...Drugs are gonna be
> around for a long time and I doubt GHB will be going away.  How come you
> aint cracking down on meth and smack and shit?  I see those are more
> dangerous drugs than GHB.  Shit how about making parties 18+,
> that will get rid of alot of "cracked out candy raverz"  Personally, I don't
> understand why a 13 yr old would start using drugs that early in the first
> place.  Shit whatever happen to good ole imagination; that was my fucking
> drug of choice until I was 17.
> xu
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Please email me if you know the contact or booking #'s
for the following DJ's :

Space Girl, NY
Thomas Michael, CA
Ty T, Washington D.C.

Please reply if you can help, thanks!

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October 22, 1999 in Cleveland, OH, I bring to you WICKED WAYZ. This is a 
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where can i find mixing software? progs that i can just play around with or 
even more advanced software. any 1 with info plaze help, its raining and im 
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I thought Space Girl lived in like russia or something


>From: Y-O-R-K <x505x@yahoo.com>
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>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Please email me if you know the contact or booking #'s
>for the following DJ's :
>
>Space Girl, NY
>Thomas Michael, CA
>Ty T, Washington D.C.
>
>Please reply if you can help, thanks!
>
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Fucking A right,  as Jim Sekoch, Bobbity, told me the music will never
love you, as much as you love it...if you are a dj that is. Now this
basically tells me that the scene, much like life does not give a fuck
about you and you are naive if you think that it does. All those people
that you see every weekend all sketched out don't even give a shit about
their friends or themselves. They are there because of habit, because
the party is the only place they can get scooped out or get a pill.
People like a lot of us who give a shit about the music catch flack for
not supporting a scene that would never support us, so why should we
feel guilty. Now as for the future of our culture. My culture and views,
as im sure that of Trunk's, will be passed on to our friends, family,
children, what have you. I will not however, futily attempt to pass this
down to phuckhead kids who do not understand, will not understand, can
receive no guidance from their family, and prove that no amount of
council from individuals such as ourselves can help them. They want to
do shit the hard way and think that we are old fucking geesers who don't
know cuz we aren't about the scene. So you know what, let people get
scooped out, fucking fish out, whatever. I have tried and tried and the
people you reach are more than grateful and the ones that don't want to
listen to advice that can assist them or possibly even save their lives,
well they can eat a big fat dick. Im tired of those turds.  Don't ya
think so Steen. I know yer tired of em too.              "If the milk
goes sour....I ain't the kind a pussy that's gonna drink
it."                        I'm fucking outtie..............Phil

trunk@public-enemy.com wrote:

> dj shiva wrote:
>  if you bring GHB to a party and sell it to CHILDREN, that
> makes you a murderer in
>  my eyes.
>
> ====> I will pose as a cop, take your money, and crush yer
> beloved drugs under my Osweegos!!!
> Little bitch as drug dealers.....
>
> the future of our culture and our friends is at stake.  i'm
> willing to put my ass (and possibly my life if i come up against
> some  real asshole) to protect both.  can you honestly say the
> same?
>
> For a friend, yes.
> For this scene, no.
> This scene does not pay my bills or support my family in any
> way. The scene, for me, is just one of MANY facets of my live. If
> I drop the scene it goes on without me.....and I without it.
>
> TRUNKalicious  Mo'BASS  NSMM
> 4802810@skytel.com  GET ME RIGHT NOW!!
> trunk@public-enemy.com  My Secretary
> http://www.wudang.com  My style
> http://welcome.to/mobass.com  My crew and tracks
> http://www.not-so-massive.com  My psuedo crew
>
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Yes, that's right... I am still aware of my surroundings and look...

I am back on mw-raves!  Wow!  Amazing, eh?

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I'm going to start a new "rave pet" breeding program. Dica, please bring
Mittens to Urbana for the month of October, and she will be bred with
Karl. The result will be a new breed of super raver pets who can withstand
extreme volumes and remain very friendly.

Matt

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, jon dica! wrote:

> there is a thread about my CAT on this list.  lord help us all.
> 
> 
> now i know how matt+ felt...
> jd
> 
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I made one of those shirts the other day with my silkscreen kit. It says
"FUCK ROBERT" on the front.

Matt

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"
> 
> Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings on 
> them?
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  Things I like most about raves -- 


1. GHB

2. Mackin' on 15 year old girls that are all fucked on GHB.

3. Spending all my parents money on drugs.

4. Ghetto rave politics.

5. Pissing on people's bags.

6. Knowing that we're all one family and every raver out there would die
for me.

7. GHB

8. Killing brain cells.

9. Hot female dj's who can't spin. 

10. That techno stuff that they play. 


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>>>oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"
>>>Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings 
>>>on
>>>them?
>>
>>Dica666:  no.
>
>guess that just shows what a newbie you are....

guess that proves to everyone else, yet again, what a complete moron you 
are.


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bullets, and my audience is the target."  -GG Allin

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At 12:54 PM 9/29/99 -0400, Phil wrote:
> So you know what, let people get
>scooped out, fucking fish out, whatever. I have tried and tried and the
>people you reach are more than grateful and the ones that don't want to
>listen to advice that can assist them or possibly even save their lives,
>well they can eat a big fat dick. Im tired of those turds.  Don't ya
>think so Steen. I know yer tired of em too.              "If the milk
>goes sour....I ain't the kind a pussy that's gonna drink
>it."                        I'm fucking outtie..............Phil
>

Well, Philly....you know how I feel about this whole thing....It kills me
to see so many kids who *live and die to rave*  I love parties....but
before I loved parties I loved the music....I still love the music and I
always will...  Parties around Detroit these days I don't love so much.
Too many people too drugged up to even hear the music.....fuck that
shit...I have too much to lose...I can't be investing so much of my time to
something that in all honesty doesn't give a fuck who I am......It sounds
selfish as hell...but it's the damned truth...alright...that's my
take...kids, everything in life must be moderated....that's just the nature
of it. 

paz y amor mi amigos......word a su madre,
steen the disco queen
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 18:29:35 1999
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> Please hit me back with the details.
>
> thanks
>
> -adam
> endpoint.
>

metamorphosis will not be taking place this year.  i just noticed its still
on hyperreal.  plans for this party were scrapped early in the summer due to
lack of venues in columbus, among other things.

sorry about the mixup!

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just wondering if anyone else was going to head out to cleveland for this.
here's the info:

dj sneak
scott henry
soul slinger / tc izlam
richard 'humpty' vission
7up
vincent wonder
lovenug
centric
zeb

superdank 216.556.4334
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 19:01:33 1999
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Anyone know who is playing at Lift/DV8 this Thursday nite?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 19:02:18 1999
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Anyone have the infoline # for Life this weekend down
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 20:03:38 1999
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Question: *What brand of drum machines is the best at a low price? And once again the question i always ask but never get a straight out answer is --> What brand of mixers is the best at a low price? I heard Gemini's are nice mixers- but just wondering what will go best with Technic 1200mk2 Turntables. *

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 20:13:41 1999
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the fact that this scene is embroiled in the drug subculture
is because that is
the way it originated, not because nobody has the balls to
stop it.  drugs have
been there since the first underground outlaw break-in party
was thrown, since
the original HOUSE parties in chicago.  ever stop and think
about the slang and
names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
named that because of
hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
made you feel as
though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
you gotta
understand maybe in the beginning there wasn't the wide
array of dope that is
available now, but that is contributed to evolution, and the
fact that
everything is progressive.  it was only a matter of time!!!

> we ran GHB out of this town before and i'll be damned if
we can't do it
> again.  maybe some people won't like my methodology...too
bad.  someone HAS
> to take a stand.  the future of our culture and our
friends is at stake.
> i'm willing to put my ass (and possibly my life if i come
up against some
> real asshole) to protect both.  can you honestly say the
same?

so now you think that your gonna be a rave superhero and rid
the scene of drugs,
well guess what, if you do succeed and overcome a million to
one odds, then what
have you got?  not the same rave scene it was from the
beginning and is now
because again drugs are an integral part of the rave
subculture, you take them
away and manage to keep them away, you have not cleansed the
scene of its
impurities, what you have done is created a new subculture.
i don't know what
you will call it, 'straight edge' is already taken, but good
luck and have fun
and you have my utmost respect as being an 'originator'.  as
far as the future
of our culture, well cultures come and go, the rave
subculture is getting pretty
well played out and sold out.  i used to think that 'selling
out' and
'commercialization' was bad, not anymore because that is
what keeps things
constantly evolving.  the cutting edge can only be found in
the morphing shadows
of the underground, where constant imagination osmosis keeps
things from
becoming stagnant, it has no name but only what the
dominator culture and
product peddlers will refer to it as next week, month, and
year.

ok i think that i have said enough, wondering if i have said
too much...oh well
that's why there is a delete key on the computer

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 20:14:00 1999
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Dj Spree live on 88.1 KVSC check it out 12am to 2am 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 20:28:55 1999
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It isnt boring when the other half is all duct tape

whendee


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>Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
>To: daniel.nelson@wcom.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org, stl-raves@egroups.com
>Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson promotional 1/2 naked people /was: ALL 
>THAT JAZZ
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked people...why not just go all out?
>Completely naked people!  Half naked is just boring and
>over-done...well, guess it depends on what half you're talking about.
>
>I now have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
>
>pikachu!
>
>spencer
>
>--- Daniel Nelson <daniel.nelson@wcom.com> wrote:
> > > If we're going to have a half naked chick, we need a
> > > half naked man too ;)!
> > >
> > > Tam
> > >
> >
> > *flailing hand wildly in air*
> >
> > Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a sexy motherf*cker! , my
> > grandma
> > said so! =D
> >
> > If not me, can we get that "crazy football guy", I mean...I've been
> > having
> > dreams about those spandex pants...that d00d is sexier
> > than...well...everything known to man, except Angela Lansbury, but
> > that goes
> > without saying!
> >
> > (Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if not, any
> > nominations?)
> > (Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated animal?)
> >
> >
> > *sm:)es*
> > ///D@/\/|3L\\\
> > (bored at work...again...and trying to stir shit on this list up
> > jes-a-lil-bit)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
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> >
> >
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Hey, as I always say "to each his own."
Personally I like to wake up at about 7 a.m. snort some cocaine, eat a bag 
of pork rinds, snort some more cocaine, crush up two or three "e's" with my 
strawberry shortcake flatware, cook those up, snort some cocaine and go get 
a 40 oz with my food stamps.
Then I usually walk over to my parent's home in a posh, upscale suburb of 
Detroit and pass out on there front lawn in a pool of vomit.
And hey, that's okay, right?

>From: AlienSoulthief@aol.com
>Reply-To: AlienSoulthief@aol.com
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:11:35 EDT
>
>
>the fact that this scene is embroiled in the drug subculture
>is because that is
>the way it originated, not because nobody has the balls to
>stop it.  drugs have
>been there since the first underground outlaw break-in party
>was thrown, since
>the original HOUSE parties in chicago.  ever stop and think
>about the slang and
>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>named that because of
>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>made you feel as
>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>you gotta
>understand maybe in the beginning there wasn't the wide
>array of dope that is
>available now, but that is contributed to evolution, and the
>fact that
>everything is progressive.  it was only a matter of time!!!
>
> > we ran GHB out of this town before and i'll be damned if
>we can't do it
> > again.  maybe some people won't like my methodology...too
>bad.  someone HAS
> > to take a stand.  the future of our culture and our
>friends is at stake.
> > i'm willing to put my ass (and possibly my life if i come
>up against some
> > real asshole) to protect both.  can you honestly say the
>same?
>
>so now you think that your gonna be a rave superhero and rid
>the scene of drugs,
>well guess what, if you do succeed and overcome a million to
>one odds, then what
>have you got?  not the same rave scene it was from the
>beginning and is now
>because again drugs are an integral part of the rave
>subculture, you take them
>away and manage to keep them away, you have not cleansed the
>scene of its
>impurities, what you have done is created a new subculture.
>i don't know what
>you will call it, 'straight edge' is already taken, but good
>luck and have fun
>and you have my utmost respect as being an 'originator'.  as
>far as the future
>of our culture, well cultures come and go, the rave
>subculture is getting pretty
>well played out and sold out.  i used to think that 'selling
>out' and
>'commercialization' was bad, not anymore because that is
>what keeps things
>constantly evolving.  the cutting edge can only be found in
>the morphing shadows
>of the underground, where constant imagination osmosis keeps
>things from
>becoming stagnant, it has no name but only what the
>dominator culture and
>product peddlers will refer to it as next week, month, and
>year.
>
>ok i think that i have said enough, wondering if i have said
>too much...oh well
>that's why there is a delete key on the computer
>
>- ----------------------------------------------------
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>All government, all law and authority finally rests on force
>& violence,
>on punishment or fear of punishment...
>TEAR IT DOWN & LET THE TRUTH BEGIN!!!   F.T.W.
>
>I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
>and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
>your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
>I am chaos.  I am alive, and I tell you that you are free.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 21:45:57 1999
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson promotional 1/2 naked people /was: ALL THAT JAZZ
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Hey whendee, ya wanna come down to St. Louie and be
the official half naked, half taped up announcer for
Paul Johnson!!??

--- whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It isnt boring when the other half is all duct tape
> 
> whendee
> 
> 
> >From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> >To: daniel.nelson@wcom.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> stl-raves@egroups.com
> >Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson promotional
> 1/2 naked people /was: ALL 
> >THAT JAZZ
> >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked people...why not
> just go all out?
> >Completely naked people!  Half naked is just boring
> and
> >over-done...well, guess it depends on what half
> you're talking about.
> >
> >I now have absolutely no idea what I'm talking
> about.
> >
> >pikachu!
> >
> >spencer
> >
> >--- Daniel Nelson <daniel.nelson@wcom.com> wrote:
> > > > If we're going to have a half naked chick, we
> need a
> > > > half naked man too ;)!
> > > >
> > > > Tam
> > > >
> > >
> > > *flailing hand wildly in air*
> > >
> > > Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a sexy
> motherf*cker! , my
> > > grandma
> > > said so! =D
> > >
> > > If not me, can we get that "crazy football guy",
> I mean...I've been
> > > having
> > > dreams about those spandex pants...that d00d is
> sexier
> > > than...well...everything known to man, except
> Angela Lansbury, but
> > > that goes
> > > without saying!
> > >
> > > (Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if
> not, any
> > > nominations?)
> > > (Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated
> animal?)
> > >
> > >
> > > *sm:)es*
> > > ///D@/\/|3L\\\
> > > (bored at work...again...and trying to stir shit
> on this list up
> > > jes-a-lil-bit)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 22:00:26 1999
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Personally I liked the Bulletproof shirts that said,
Fuck House
(wondering if I can still get one hmmmm)

--- jon dica! <dica666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>oh yeah... and "FUCK JUNGLE!"
> >>>Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to
> sell with those sayings 
> >>>on
> >>>them?
> >>
> >>Dica666:  no.
> >
> >guess that just shows what a newbie you are....
> 
> guess that proves to everyone else, yet again, what
> a complete moron you 
> are.
> 
> 
> ////////////   jon/dica * massive honky * ultimate
> platypus
>
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> "everybody is an enemy.  fuck it, i hate everybody. 
> i'm not part of any 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 22:16:18 1999
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Ya aperently it is, cuz he's from Pittsburg
originally, I've got his whole interview with the guy
who threw the party he OD'd at Mr. Ian Hard, its the
Night Life Video and its a fucking riot.
Hey if you used to know him, what exactly does his
father do?

--- Mark Walsh <siezer@dtmf.org> wrote:
> 
> is this *the* turtle... from pittsburg originally?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 IguanaJKN@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > A very good friend of mine, Turtle, almost died
> from G, he went into a hard 
> > G-coma, a lot of people thought he was dead.  Most
> of you that went to Free*E 
> > in St. Louis remember him, i hate it, and please
> dont do it, it really is 
> > evil.
> > 
> > -josh
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http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/September/0929ifweshoulddie.htm

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halloween.same place.mark your calenders.more info to cum.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 22:43:27 1999
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I was hoping you would ask!!

yes....:D
whendee


>From: "Princess Applesauce" <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
>To: nakedgirl666@hotmail.com, siezer@dtmf.org
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, stl-raves@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [mw] 1/2 naked people
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:50:15 CDT
>
>to be perfectly honest, i dont know why were getting naked either...
>who cares tho? wanna make out?
>hehe
>**lora**
>
>>I have not been paying attention the last couple of days...but as you all 
>>knw i am always looking for an excuse to take my clothes off...so someone 
>>fillme in and i will try to stay 1/2 clothed :)
>>
>>
>>whendee
>>
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> Ogh yea. No dates will be decided at the meetings because it spawns 
>  aimless bickering.

seriously?  i know it does.... when is the next meeting?


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sure if you pay for me to ge there and *oh my god* get me some drugs
:)
whendee



>>
>Hey whendee, ya wanna come down to St. Louie and be
>the official half naked, half taped up announcer for
>Paul Johnson!!??
>
>--- whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > It isnt boring when the other half is all duct tape
> >
> > whendee
> >
> >
> > >From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> > >To: daniel.nelson@wcom.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> > stl-raves@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson promotional
> > 1/2 naked people /was: ALL
> > >THAT JAZZ
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked people...why not
> > just go all out?
> > >Completely naked people!  Half naked is just boring
> > and
> > >over-done...well, guess it depends on what half
> > you're talking about.
> > >
> > >I now have absolutely no idea what I'm talking
> > about.
> > >
> > >pikachu!
> > >
> > >spencer
> > >
> > >--- Daniel Nelson <daniel.nelson@wcom.com> wrote:
> > > > > If we're going to have a half naked chick, we
> > need a
> > > > > half naked man too ;)!
> > > > >
> > > > > Tam
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > *flailing hand wildly in air*
> > > >
> > > > Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a sexy
> > motherf*cker! , my
> > > > grandma
> > > > said so! =D
> > > >
> > > > If not me, can we get that "crazy football guy",
> > I mean...I've been
> > > > having
> > > > dreams about those spandex pants...that d00d is
> > sexier
> > > > than...well...everything known to man, except
> > Angela Lansbury, but
> > > > that goes
> > > > without saying!
> > > >
> > > > (Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman yet, if
> > not, any
> > > > nominations?)
> > > > (Can we also have a 1/2 naked small domesticated
> > animal?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *sm:)es*
> > > > ///D@/\/|3L\\\
> > > > (bored at work...again...and trying to stir shit
> > on this list up
> > > > jes-a-lil-bit)
> > > >
> > > >
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just though i would pass this info along for a friend...
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BELEIVE
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> >Anybody else remember the T-Shirts they used to sell with those sayings on
>  >them?
>  
>  no.

i do remember a shirt some junglist kid was wearing that said "techno 
sucks"...he was spinning at mojo in a2 with disco d.. long ago.. hmm.        ?


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i agree with shiva

BEAT THEM BITCHES WITH A BAT!

whendee


>From: "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dj shiva" <goddess_one@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] R a note on GHB
>Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:22:36 CDT
>
>
>
>>Seriously though, the Indy scene is very tight & I think most kids will
>>quickly recognize who is dealing "G" & reject them.  There is little 
>>profit
>>where there are few buyers & eventually the risk of possibly getting one's
>>ass kicked for a $40 night begins to persuade dealers to move on.
>
>what's funny is that the last time i saw a grrl all fugged up on GHB and
>went lookin for the dealer, i found out that someone else had beaten me to
>'em.  indy had some BAAAAD experiences with GHB a few years back and it
>seems that we have not forgotten.
>
>i'm sorry so many people find my methods crude, but think of it this way:
>
>if someone hurt someone that you care about, would you "tolerate" them?
>probably most people's first reaction would be to hurt them back.  maybe
>it's not the politically correct or even "right" (how subjective a term),
>but it's the reality.  my point was that if GHB dealers stay away, then
>there will be no problems.  i stand by that.
>
>does anyone think i LIKE violence?  hell no...philosophically i would LOVE
>to be a pacifist.  but the reality is that when the powers that be will
>inflict force upon us to further their goals, non-violent pc PLUR waving
>doesn't protect us.
>
>power concedes to nothing but power.
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 23:35:42 1999
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Subject: Re: [stl] Re: Fwd: [mw]  Paul Johnson promotional 1/2 naked people /was: ALL THAT JAZZ
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Well she's gonna be half nekid and half taped, hope
its ok, oh and maybe she can get princess applesauce
to make out with her on stage.
gee the posibilities are endless

--- Ian Andersen <xcel@primary.net> wrote:
> okay she's hired.....she must be completely naked
> though..she can contac us
> at....555-1212...hehehhehehhe
> 
> Ian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
> To: St. Louis raves <stl-raves@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:22 PM
> Subject: [stl] Re: Fwd: [mw] Paul Johnson
> promotional 1/2 naked people /was:
> ALL THAT JAZZ
> 
> 
> >hey guys we have a candidate!!!
> >
> >--- whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> From: "whendee mesich" <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> >> To: j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com,
> nakedgirl666@hotmail.com,
> >> spencerb1@yahoo.com,
> >>   daniel.nelson@wcom.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> >> stl-raves@egroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson
> promotional
> >> 1/2 naked people /was: ALL THAT JAZZ
> >> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:03:29 CDT
> >> Reply-to: "whendee mesich"
> >> <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> >>
> >> sure if you pay for me to ge there and *oh my
> god*
> >> get me some drugs
> >> :)
> >> whendee
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >Hey whendee, ya wanna come down to St. Louie and
> be
> >> >the official half naked, half taped up announcer
> >> for
> >> >Paul Johnson!!??
> >> >
> >> >--- whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > It isnt boring when the other half is all
> duct
> >> tape
> >> > >
> >> > > whendee
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> >> > > >Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> >> > > >To: daniel.nelson@wcom.com,
> >> mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> >> > > stl-raves@egroups.com
> >> > > >Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson
> >> promotional
> >> > > 1/2 naked people /was: ALL
> >> > > >THAT JAZZ
> >> > > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked
> people...why
> >> not
> >> > > just go all out?
> >> > > >Completely naked people!  Half naked is just
> >> boring
> >> > > and
> >> > > >over-done...well, guess it depends on what
> half
> >> > > you're talking about.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >I now have absolutely no idea what I'm
> talking
> >> > > about.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >pikachu!
> >> > > >
> >> > > >spencer
> >> > > >
> >> > > >--- Daniel Nelson <daniel.nelson@wcom.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > If we're going to have a half naked
> chick,
> >> we
> >> > > need a
> >> > > > > > half naked man too ;)!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Tam
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > *flailing hand wildly in air*
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a
> >> sexy
> >> > > motherf*cker! , my
> >> > > > > grandma
> >> > > > > said so! =D
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > If not me, can we get that "crazy
> football
> >> guy",
> >> > > I mean...I've been
> >> > > > > having
> >> > > > > dreams about those spandex pants...that
> d00d
> >> is
> >> > > sexier
> >> > > > > than...well...everything known to man,
> >> except
> >> > > Angela Lansbury, but
> >> > > > > that goes
> >> > > > > without saying!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > (Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman
> yet,
> >> if
> >> > > not, any
> >> > > > > nominations?)
> >> > > > > (Can we also have a 1/2 naked small
> >> domesticated
> >> > > animal?)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > *sm:)es*
> >> > > > > ///D@/\/|3L\\\
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 23:41:12 1999
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heres the lineup for LIFT (CINCINNATI) for the next month or so...

evil eddie edwards (london, UK) is coming to lift this week (9/30)

october 7th is phantom 45 + guests TBA

october 14th-the thank god its mixer tour w/ DMC champ dj craze, and dj
infamous...also the BANCO DE GAIA live PA tour the same night

october 21: moonshine over america featuring carl cox, micro, cirrus, omar
santana in one of the most intimate venues on the tour...dont miss this
lineup
up close and personal !!!

coming in november is bad boy bill, and gobble 8 (thanksgiving eve)
featuring derrick carter and feelgood + more TBC...hope that helps out...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940B morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@hotmail.com
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> Anyone know who is playing at Lift/DV8 this Thursday nite?
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Well Wendy, no need to wax.  When you pull that tape off... owwwww!

=)
Kale/DeamSequence

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, Jon Gotti wrote:

> Well she's gonna be half nekid and half taped, hope
> its ok, oh and maybe she can get princess applesauce
> to make out with her on stage.
> gee the posibilities are endless
> 
> --- Ian Andersen <xcel@primary.net> wrote:
> > okay she's hired.....she must be completely naked
> > though..she can contac us
> > at....555-1212...hehehhehehhe
> > 
> > Ian
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
> > To: St. Louis raves <stl-raves@egroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:22 PM
> > Subject: [stl] Re: Fwd: [mw] Paul Johnson
> > promotional 1/2 naked people /was:
> > ALL THAT JAZZ
> > 
> > 
> > >hey guys we have a candidate!!!
> > >
> > >--- whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> From: "whendee mesich" <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> > >> To: j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com,
> > nakedgirl666@hotmail.com,
> > >> spencerb1@yahoo.com,
> > >>   daniel.nelson@wcom.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> > >> stl-raves@egroups.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson
> > promotional
> > >> 1/2 naked people /was: ALL THAT JAZZ
> > >> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:03:29 CDT
> > >> Reply-to: "whendee mesich"
> > >> <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> > >>
> > >> sure if you pay for me to ge there and *oh my
> > god*
> > >> get me some drugs
> > >> :)
> > >> whendee
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >Hey whendee, ya wanna come down to St. Louie and
> > be
> > >> >the official half naked, half taped up announcer
> > >> for
> > >> >Paul Johnson!!??
> > >> >
> > >> >--- whendee mesich <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > It isnt boring when the other half is all
> > duct
> > >> tape
> > >> > >
> > >> > > whendee
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >From: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> > >> > > >Reply-To: spencer <spencerb1@yahoo.com>
> > >> > > >To: daniel.nelson@wcom.com,
> > >> mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> > >> > > stl-raves@egroups.com
> > >> > > >Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson
> > >> promotional
> > >> > > 1/2 naked people /was: ALL
> > >> > > >THAT JAZZ
> > >> > > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:12:38 -0700 (PDT)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked
> > people...why
> > >> not
> > >> > > just go all out?
> > >> > > >Completely naked people!  Half naked is just
> > >> boring
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > >over-done...well, guess it depends on what
> > half
> > >> > > you're talking about.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >I now have absolutely no idea what I'm
> > talking
> > >> > > about.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >pikachu!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >spencer
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >--- Daniel Nelson <daniel.nelson@wcom.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > If we're going to have a half naked
> > chick,
> > >> we
> > >> > > need a
> > >> > > > > > half naked man too ;)!
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Tam
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *flailing hand wildly in air*
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!! I'm a
> > >> sexy
> > >> > > motherf*cker! , my
> > >> > > > > grandma
> > >> > > > > said so! =D
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > If not me, can we get that "crazy
> > football
> > >> guy",
> > >> > > I mean...I've been
> > >> > > > > having
> > >> > > > > dreams about those spandex pants...that
> > d00d
> > >> is
> > >> > > sexier
> > >> > > > > than...well...everything known to man,
> > >> except
> > >> > > Angela Lansbury, but
> > >> > > > > that goes
> > >> > > > > without saying!
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > (Do we have an official 1/2 naked woman
> > yet,
> > >> if
> > >> > > not, any
> > >> > > > > nominations?)
> > >> > > > > (Can we also have a 1/2 naked small
> > >> domesticated
> > >> > > animal?)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *sm:)es*
> > >> > > > > ///D@/\/|3L\\\
> > >> > > > > (bored at work...again...and trying to
> > stir
> > >> shit
> > >> > > on this list up
> > >> > > > > jes-a-lil-bit)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 23:47:33 1999
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Well have you taken off you top or some of your cloths.
I say go for it you are welcome to anytime.

----- Original Message -----
From: Britnie Foltz <jungledown69@hotmail.com>
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> how come IIIII never get to be half naked??????????  I expect a reply
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Sep 29 23:59:02 1999
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Are you talking about my buddy Ryan "Whatever" again?  Go download a clip 
from my website and tell us if he's the same Turtle?  If he's that good of 
friend, you should buy the video that has a long interview with him.
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
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St. louis, Mo.63116
314.994.1284
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>From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
>To: Mark Walsh <siezer@dtmf.org>, IguanaJKN@aol.com
>CC: Djboobwack@aol.com, jackal101@theglobe.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,  
>blitz666@uswest.net
>Subject: Re: [mw] GHB
>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ya aperently it is, cuz he's from Pittsburg
>originally, I've got his whole interview with the guy
>who threw the party he OD'd at Mr. Ian Hard, its the
>Night Life Video and its a fucking riot.
>Hey if you used to know him, what exactly does his
>father do?
>
>--- Mark Walsh <siezer@dtmf.org> wrote:
> >
> > is this *the* turtle... from pittsburg originally?
> >
> >
> >
> >                    <shamless plug>
> >    ----------------siezer@dtmf.org----------------
> >     Get paid to be online. No spam. No junk mail.
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> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 IguanaJKN@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > A very good friend of mine, Turtle, almost died
> > from G, he went into a hard
> > > G-coma, a lot of people thought he was dead.  Most
> > of you that went to Free*E
> > > in St. Louis remember him, i hate it, and please
> > dont do it, it really is
> > > evil.
> > >
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OH MY GOD WHAT I AM GOING TO WEAR?

whendee


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>AWWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 00:29:44 1999
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Sure ... drugs have always been at "raves" since the beginning ... but it was 
at a MUCH smaller level.  Not as many people did it, and they did it less 
frequently.  And the thought of seeing anybody snorting anything was crazy.  
There used to never be any powder at raves.  It was strictly Bud, Acid & E... 
(in that order)  The over use and abuse of drugs have hurt the scene a lot... 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 00:40:29 1999
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Britney gets to be nekid on stage with Wendee and Paul
Johnson too, maybe they can all do like a shower scene
thingy, or maybe just give Paul a lap dance on stage!
(what the hell am I talking about, I want the damn lap
dance!!)

--- Britnie Foltz <jungledown69@hotmail.com> wrote:
> how come IIIII never get to be half naked?????????? 
> I expect a reply 
> please......
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Last minute cancellation for Halloween weekend:


Tour:    DJ GODFATHER AND ECTOMORPH


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 01:31:24 1999
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--quoted text -------------------------------------
the fact that this scene is embroiled in the drug
subculture is because that is the way it originated,
not because nobody has the balls to stop it.  drugs
have been there since the first underground outlaw
break-in party was thrown, since the original HOUSE
parties in chicago.  ever stop and think about the
slang and names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't
think it was named that because of hydrochloric acid
dripping form the bass bins or because it made you
feel as though you were swimming in a giant pool of
sulfuric acid.. you gotta
understand maybe in the beginning there wasn't the
wide
array of dope that is available now, but that is
contributed to evolution, and the fact that
everything is progressive.  it was only a matter of
time!!!
--end quoted text-------------------------------------

I think the original discussion is losing course here
a little bit.  The first rant was about liquid G
(GHB).  I personally agree, G isn't a good thing.  One
tiny capful flying, another, deep deep sleep.  I've
had a few friends go through a lot of bad experiences
with G and I could really stand to see it leave our
scene.

Drugs overall, I agree, they are a part of the scene. 
I think, as with all things, moderation, situation,
and knowledge is key.  I saw a 14 year old kid all
twigged out on acid a few weeks ago.  What the hell
was a 14 year old doing with acid?  I'm 23 and the
realizations from the psychedelics take me weeks to
understand.  I could twig out myself, but shit, no way
could this be handled at 14.

I'd like to say that drugs are a good thing for our
scene, but can't.  A lot of pushers out there just
want to make money and don't care how it's done (don't
get me wrong there are good dealers out there too). 
One kid does a stupid thing and gets in the hospital,
or worse yet, dead and the media goes crazy.  Media
goes crazy, it gets harder to throw raves, moms go
nuts, prices go up, negativity comes from all
directions.  If we, collectively, have some control
over what goes on, things would be a lot better off.

--quoted text -------------------------------------
an 'originator'.  as far as the future of our culture,
well cultures come and go, the rave subculture is
getting pretty well played out and sold out.  i used
to think that 'selling out' and 'commercialization'
was bad, not anymore because that is what keeps things
constantly evolving.  the cutting edge can only be
found in the morphing shadows of the underground,
where constant imagination osmosis keeps things from
becoming stagnant, it has no name but only what the
dominator culture and product peddlers will refer to
it as next week, month, and year.
--end quoted text-------------------------------------

You got it Shannon.  Well said.

The person who started all of this obviously didn't do
it for him/herself.  Otherwise, it would be in that
person's pocket still.  This is the natural trend of
everything.  We are constantly trying new things,
constantly evolving to new levels.  The trick is carry
everything that is pure and good up to the next level.

One last thing, message to the bitter hardcore old
timers... don't be mad at the new kids.  They are
kids, like you were kids.  Show them the better
aspects of the scene, like what plur meant when people
weren't afraid to say plur.  That way, no one will be
or grow up bitter (or old).

Jason

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i guess this is as good a time as any to introduce myself. 
i'm catastrophe, and i've just moved to western kentucky (bowling green 
area.. ugh) in the past few months. i'm really new to the area (obviously) 
and the scene here. i'm not a newbie by any means tho, but i'm used to 
seattle's scene so i have no idea what's going on. anyone give me some ideas 
on when/where i can find events anytime soon and any local websites worth 
checking out? i'm gonna shrivel up and die if i don't dance soon. =>
thanx-
catastrophe.

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Can anybody help me find a mask of the guy in "Mask"?
I'm Ian Hard
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>From: "whendee mesich" <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>
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>
>OH MY GOD WHAT I AM GOING TO WEAR?
>
>whendee
>
>
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>>AWWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
>>
>>--
>>http://poofin.com/arno/
>>1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010
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>>no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 01:52:51 1999
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my brother is looking for an underground electronica rave party event to
attend this weekend.  he lives in cinci.  he likes jungle and hot girls.
so if there's anything you can do to help a brother out, please get back
to me, and you'll be cool in my book.
**doris**


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 02:04:15 1999
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Just to clarify, this is on Thursday night, and DJ Tilzs will be spinning 
trancecore with me. I'm on from 12-1, he's on from 1-2. :-) Enjoy! ;-)

-Craig/Spree
http://members.xoom.com/djspree
http://www.kickinbeats.com

>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:10:58 EDT
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>Subject: [mw] KVSC
>
>Dj Spree live on 88.1 KVSC check it out 12am to 2am
>your in for a real treat!  :o)


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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:

-->The truth on what happened with louie will be posted on our web page when 
-->i have time.

to concoct a believable story that displaces all blame from me and my
production company.


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No, but I'll fed-ex you some tweak if you mail me a money order!


>From: SpyDyrGrrL@aol.com
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] hi?
>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:35:56 EDT
>
>i guess this is as good a time as any to introduce myself.
>i'm catastrophe, and i've just moved to western kentucky (bowling green
>area.. ugh) in the past few months. i'm really new to the area (obviously)
>and the scene here. i'm not a newbie by any means tho, but i'm used to
>seattle's scene so i have no idea what's going on. anyone give me some 
>ideas
>on when/where i can find events anytime soon and any local websites worth
>checking out? i'm gonna shrivel up and die if i don't dance soon. =>
>thanx-
>catastrophe.
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 02:14:10 1999
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Uh, shut your fuckin hole.


>From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
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>
>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 mwraves@thirtythreeandathird.com wrote:
>
>-->The truth on what happened with louie will be posted on our web page 
>when
>-->i have time.
>
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> No, but I'll fed-ex you some tweak if you mail me a money order!

don't you think living here would be bad enuf? ;> 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 02:17:49 1999
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you got a point, sweetiee...



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> > No, but I'll fed-ex you some tweak if you mail me a money order!
>
>don't you think living here would be bad enuf? ;>
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check it out.

peace,
Prasad


    I found an interesting site that you might want to check out in your
spare time.

THE ENNUI AND THE ECSTASY @
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 02:27:33 1999
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humans, friends, crazy people...

lend me your ears.

for those who know who i am, i thought you might be interested to know that 
i am moving to delaware to work for Saturn for about 6 months.  so i just 
wanted to say goodbye to you all, and it was cool meeting the people i did 
over the years.  some of you i havent seen in awhile, but i wanted to say 
thanks to doris, mikeyd, jeffz, angelboi, griggles, chrisE, bekka... thats 
all i can think of now.

hope to return to much drama!

derik

might as well plug my site before i leave,

---the immovable objekt _ visual assault weaponry.  Hz So Good.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Highrise/3909/code_red/frame001.html

---main *but* inactive page.  will be updated when all sites under my 
supervision are completed.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Highrise/3909/io.html

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Yea, and I've been talking to Bombardier and I think he's playing this one
again...  Hopefully Doormouse will do a live PA again too...

And then I can rock it the morning after with aRNO!

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On Wed, 29 Sep 1999, whendee mesich wrote:

> 
> OH MY GOD WHAT I AM GOING TO WEAR?
> 
> whendee

Hehe...  I didn't even know Whendee owned clothes. :)


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atomly wrote:
> 
> Yea, and I've been talking to Bombardier and I think he's playing this one
> again...  Hopefully Doormouse will do a live PA again too...

i belive der maus is gwanna be at omaha er sum shit. poofin. but i'm
sure de barn's a gwanna rawkin anyhooz yo sucka bitch yo.

> And then I can rock it the morning after with aRNO!

ohohohho! chooono i'll rawk chooo silly cutie pie!!!;]

--de aFORMENTIONED
 
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01101111 01001000 11001011

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hey...ive been looking for the running up that hill mp3 lately...if anyone
has it, ill be happy to trade for it...i should be able to handle a 4-5MB
email (please arrange a time first so i can clear off my mail from my server
!!!) or i can dl it from a ftp site and up you some goodies in
return...please respond privately...thanks!

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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In a message dated 9/29/99 8:52:58 PM Central Daylight Time, dpayer@umich.edu 
writes:

<< my brother is looking for an underground electronica rave party event to
 attend this weekend.  he lives in cinci.  he likes jungle and hot girls.
 so if there's anything you can do to help a brother out, please get back
 to me, and you'll be cool in my book.
 **doris**
  >>

First of all...I thought I was already the coolest in your mind..but 
gargantuan Barney Girl there is nothing going on in Cincy this weekend, but 
there is a party in Indy with UFO and Rob Hood and Me and Lauryn are driving 
there...so if you want to have your brother call me, hit me back of the list 
and I'll give you the number to get ahold of me at.....

still tryin to fill in the holes from your big footprints on Ludlow
Shawne

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> you got a point, sweetiee...

ok, i'm gonna take this to email after this one cuz personal convos get 
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it through the situation with all their body parts. 'nuf said. ;>

<<catastrophe, your silicon jesus>>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 04:53:37 1999
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Alright folks.  I know some of you out there are musicians - albeit
sucky ones (thanks for the tip Rob!).  So I've got a few questions for
ya.  

First off, does anybody know any mac software for converting midi
files to mp3 or wav?  I just made my first track and it rocks tha haus
down, yo.  Ok, maybe it doesn't rock.  Maybe it's just 35 bars of
suckiness with a kick drum behind it so's I can call it "hardcore."
But, hey.  It's my suckiness and if I wanna share it with the world,
then that's my prerogative.

Second, I'm thinking about starting to buy some equipment of my own.
Can anyone recommend a moderately priced PC sound card with good midi
support?  I figure that and a synthesizer are all I need to get
started.  The synth I'm using now is the Roland JV-80.  It's the
school's.  Anyone know anything about it?  Price?  Quality?  I like
the feel of it, but I don't want one for myself if it's gonna set me
back a titload or if it's gonna break in a month.

Thanks in advance for the info.

one love,
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In a message dated 9/29/99 5:38:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
imonfyre@hotmail.com writes:

> Hey, as I always say "to each his own."
>  Personally I like to wake up at about 7 a.m. snort some cocaine, eat a bag 
>  of pork rinds, snort some more cocaine, crush up two or three "e's" with 
my 
>  strawberry shortcake flatware, cook those up, snort some cocaine and go 
get 
>  a 40 oz with my food stamps.
>  Then I usually walk over to my parent's home in a posh, upscale suburb of 
>  Detroit and pass out on there front lawn in a pool of vomit.
>  And hey, that's okay, right?


  as long as you promise to pass out in my front yard every once in awhile so 
i can kick you.......

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From: Jon Gotti

Well she's gonna be half nekid and half taped, hope its ok, oh
and maybe she can get princess applesauce  to make out with her
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This is tha kinda shit II'm talkin' 'bout!!!!!

See below:
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:35:30 -0700 (PDT)
               From: Jon Gotti 
               Subject: Re: [stl] Re: Fwd: [mw]  Paul Johnson
promotional 1/2 naked people /was: ALL THAT JAZZ

               Well she's gonna be half nekid and half taped,
hope
               its ok, oh and maybe she can get princess
applesauce
               to make out with her on stage.
               gee the posibilities are endless

               - --- Ian Andersen  wrote:
               > okay she's hired.....she must be completely
naked
               > though..she can contac us
               > at....555-1212...hehehhehehhe
               > 
               > Ian
               > -----Original Message-----
               > From: Jon Gotti 
               > To: St. Louis raves 
               > Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 6:22 PM
               > Subject: [stl] Re: Fwd: [mw] Paul Johnson
               > promotional 1/2 naked people /was:
               > ALL THAT JAZZ
               > 
               > 
               > >hey guys we have a candidate!!!
               > >
               > >--- whendee mesich 
               > wrote:
               > >> From: "whendee mesich" 
               > >> To: j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com,
               > nakedgirl666@hotmail.com,
               > >> spencerb1@yahoo.com,
               > >>   daniel.nelson@wcom.com,
mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
               > >> stl-raves@egroups.com
               > >> Subject: Re: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson
               > promotional
               > >> 1/2 naked people /was: ALL THAT JAZZ
               > >> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:03:29 CDT
               > >> Reply-to: "whendee mesich"
               > >> 
               > >>
               > >> sure if you pay for me to ge there and *oh
my
               > god*
               > >> get me some drugs
               > >> :)
               > >> whendee
               > >>
               > >>
               > >>
               > >> >>
               > >> >Hey whendee, ya wanna come down to St.
Louie and
               > be
               > >> >the official half naked, half taped up
announcer
               > >> for
               > >> >Paul Johnson!!??
               > >> >
               > >> >--- whendee mesich 
               > >> wrote:
               > >> > > It isnt boring when the other half is
all
               > duct
               > >> tape
               > >> > >
               > >> > > whendee
               > >> > >
               > >> > >
               > >> > > >From: spencer 
               > >> > > >Reply-To: spencer 
               > >> > > >To: daniel.nelson@wcom.com,
               > >> mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
               > >> > > stl-raves@egroups.com
               > >> > > >Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Paul Johnson
               > >> promotional
               > >> > > 1/2 naked people /was: ALL
               > >> > > >THAT JAZZ
               > >> > > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:12:38 -0700
(PDT)
               > >> > > >
               > >> > > >Hmmm...I've seen enough half naked
               > people...why
               > >> not
               > >> > > just go all out?
               > >> > > >Completely naked people!  Half naked
is just
               > >> boring
               > >> > > and
               > >> > > >over-done...well, guess it depends on
what
               > half
               > >> > > you're talking about.
               > >> > > >
               > >> > > >I now have absolutely no idea what
I'm
               > talking
               > >> > > about.
               > >> > > >
               > >> > > >pikachu!
               > >> > > >
               > >> > > >spencer
               > >> > > >
               > >> > > >--- Daniel Nelson 
               > >> wrote:
               > >> > > > > > If we're going to have a half
naked
               > chick,
               > >> we
               > >> > > need a
               > >> > > > > > half naked man too ;)!
               > >> > > > > >
               > >> > > > > > Tam
               > >> > > > > >
               > >> > > > >
               > >> > > > > *flailing hand wildly in air*
               > >> > > > >
               > >> > > > > Ooooh, ooooooh pick me, pick me!!!
I'm a
               > >> sexy
               > >> > > motherf*cker! , my
               > >> > > > > grandma
               > >> > > > > said so! =D
               > >> > > > >
               > >> > > > > If not me, can we get that "crazy
               > football
               > >> guy",
               > >> > > I mean...I've been
               > >> > > > > having
               > >> > > > > dreams about those spandex
pants...that
               > d00d
               > >> is
               > >> > > sexier
               > >> > > > > than...well...everything known to
man,
               > >> except
               > >> > > Angela Lansbury, but
               > >> > > > > that goes
               > >> > > > > without saying!
               > >> > > > >
               > >> > > > > (Do we have an official 1/2 naked
woman
               > yet,
               > >> if
               > >> > > not, any
               > >> > > > > nominations?)
               > >> > > > > (Can we also have a 1/2 naked
small
               > >> domesticated
               > >> > > animal?)
               > >> > > > >
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>Dj Spree live on 88.1 KVSC check it out 12am to 2am your in for a >real 
>treat!  :o)

Just to clairfy, that is tonight (9/30/99). I'll be there also spinning some 
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<insert middle finger here>

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> you got a point, sweetiee...
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Pixie wrote:

> <insert middle finger here>
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> redneck ravers untie!!!

my long hair just won't cover up my redneck.

ummm.

untill i hadta shave it ta git da lice gone.....:|

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if you want a drum machine, get something like the r8.  it's cheap, abotu 
300 bucks, and it's a really professional machine, and something that's 
super easy to program, you can even get 909 and 808 sound cards for it.  for 
about 50 bucks more, you can get an mc303, that is really good as stand 
alone drum machine, and it also has some synth in it that you can mess 
with..but it's more of a toy i'd say, it was my second drum machine..the 
first was an alesis sr-16...which is kinda cool too, but the sounds are 
weak.  good for using with a sampler tho.

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YOu got wear somthing to be able to take it off!
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Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out of a 
tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called Acid, 
thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it has 
nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.


ever stop and think
>about the slang and
>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>named that because of
>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>made you feel as
>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..


Adam Sjogren
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Brandon here on the list (DJ Scam) has a sound blaster live which from what 
he says is a damn good middle range priced sound card


, I'm thinking about starting to buy some equipment of my own.
>Can anyone recommend a moderately priced PC sound card with good midi
>support?  I figure that and a synthesizer are all I need to get
>started.  The synth I'm using now is the Roland JV-80.  It's the
>school's.  Anyone know anything about it?  Price?  Quality?  I like
>the feel of it, but I don't want one for myself if it's gonna set me
>back a titload or if it's gonna break in a month.
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>Thanks in advance for the info.
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Send me my contract bitch!

whendee

>--- Ian Andersen <xcel@primary.net> wrote:
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Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come from
for the 303?
While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't forms
of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never had
anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's buttery
noise.
Personally, I think the previous email was right.  It seems logical to
me that the sound, being so insanely tweaked out and odd, (especially when
it was first used for the purpose of music way back when) would be linked
to another 'condition' in which sounds are odd, and unheard of.

But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
acid!"... What the hell do I know?
Kale/DreamSequence

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:

> Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out of a 
> tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called Acid, 
> thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it has 
> nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
> 
> 
> ever stop and think
> >about the slang and
> >names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
> >named that because of
> >hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
> >made you feel as
> >though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
> 
> 
> Adam Sjogren
> a.k.a. FreakBoy
> "The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
> http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
> ICQ# 41515968
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Can anybody gimme a low down on the activities this weekend in the area?

I heard of a party called "Halo" to be held in the catacombs??  Anybody
know anything about this party (line-up, etc).  BTW.....where/what the
hell are the catacombs???  

What about harvest fest?  Are there usually bands and stuff to check out
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>But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
>acid!"... What the hell do I know?

Wasn't the term acid derived from that track in the UK back in like 87 
or 88. I think it was called This is acid or something? The guy's voice 
going "acIIIIIIIIID....ac..acIIIIIIIIID"

I don't know.....

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the point is--my style of trance is not named after a drug, it is named 
after a common sound, thats like saying hard house is called that because 
its harder to find or hits you harder and not the snare on top of beat 
thing--im sure it wasnt always called acid and yes more than one machine 
makes the acid sound (that one just happens to be the most recognizable) but 
the fact remains the genre of 'acid' house, trance, and techno were named so 
because of the 'acid' sound not cause it's like...totally...the best 
shit...to ummmm..listen to when you're fucked up...right...dude


>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: FreakBoy <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:50:02 -0500 (CDT)
>
>Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come from
>for the 303?
>While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
>other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't forms
>of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never had
>anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's buttery
>noise.
>Personally, I think the previous email was right.  It seems logical to
>me that the sound, being so insanely tweaked out and odd, (especially when
>it was first used for the purpose of music way back when) would be linked
>to another 'condition' in which sounds are odd, and unheard of.
>
>But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
>acid!"... What the hell do I know?
>Kale/DreamSequence
>
>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
>
> > Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out 
>of a
> > tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called 
>Acid,
> > thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it 
>has
> > nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
> >
> >
> > ever stop and think
> > >about the slang and
> > >names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
> > >named that because of
> > >hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
> > >made you feel as
> > >though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
> >
> >
> > Adam Sjogren
> > a.k.a. FreakBoy
> > "The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
> > http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
> > ICQ# 41515968
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hrmm...apparently space flight is now sponsored by...

http://www.lycos.com/news/flash/pizzahutlogo.html?v=hp9301230&lpv=1

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 17:03:25 1999
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YES THAT SONG RULES


>From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
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>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:46:23 -0500
>
>
> >But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
> >acid!"... What the hell do I know?
>
>Wasn't the term acid derived from that track in the UK back in like 87
>or 88. I think it was called This is acid or something? The guy's voice
>going "acIIIIIIIIID....ac..acIIIIIIIIID"
>
>I don't know.....
>
>ricA

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So where does..let's say... "Acid Jazz" fit into the picture? I don't recall
hearing a 303 in "Kinda Blue"...

	-----Original Message-----
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	YES THAT SONG RULES


	>From: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
	>Reply-To: richard shebestak <richard.shebestak@mail.sprint.com>
	>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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	>
	>
	> >But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call
this
	> >acid!"... What the hell do I know?
	>
	>Wasn't the term acid derived from that track in the UK back in like
87
	>or 88. I think it was called This is acid or something? The guy's
voice
	>going "acIIIIIIIIID....ac..acIIIIIIIIID"
	>
	>I don't know.....
	>
	>ricA

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 18:07:38 1999
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does anyone in the lex. area know what the attic (south hill station)
is... i have heard from friends that it it kinda ravey but at a
club...and what the monetary comitment from my wallet will be to go-  i
am after all a poor starving student.

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quick note...i have no fukkin clue what we are talking about here, but i 
noticed the subject "GHB."  Just so ya know...I work on an Inpatient 
Psychiatric Unit, and we just had this guy in there for detox and treatment 
for drug-induced state of psychosis from GHB.  Was he fucked up?  HELL 
YES...he thought he was eating out of his ears, could NOT orient to NAME, 
DATE, TIME or PLACE and he was walking through the halls laughing at 
inanimate objects and talking to invisible people...it was really disturbing. 
 Think about it before you do that shit.  Love and chicken grease.  

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But if you style of trance (which, I happen to love, thank you very much,
hee) is named after the sound acid, and the sound acid is from a 303, and
the sound a 303 makes was called 'acid' because of the drug, then your
style of trance is named after a drug.


Which came first, the acid or the chicken... or no wait, the egg... or was
it the 303?

Kale/DreamSequence
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:

> the point is--my style of trance is not named after a drug, it is named 
> after a common sound, thats like saying hard house is called that because 
> its harder to find or hits you harder and not the snare on top of beat 
> thing--im sure it wasnt always called acid and yes more than one machine 
> makes the acid sound (that one just happens to be the most recognizable) but 
> the fact remains the genre of 'acid' house, trance, and techno were named so 
> because of the 'acid' sound not cause it's like...totally...the best 
> shit...to ummmm..listen to when you're fucked up...right...dude
> 
> 
> >From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
> >To: FreakBoy <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
> >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
> >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:50:02 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come from
> >for the 303?
> >While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
> >other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't forms
> >of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never had
> >anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's buttery
> >noise.
> >Personally, I think the previous email was right.  It seems logical to
> >me that the sound, being so insanely tweaked out and odd, (especially when
> >it was first used for the purpose of music way back when) would be linked
> >to another 'condition' in which sounds are odd, and unheard of.
> >
> >But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
> >acid!"... What the hell do I know?
> >Kale/DreamSequence
> >
> >On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
> >
> > > Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out 
> >of a
> > > tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called 
> >Acid,
> > > thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it 
> >has
> > > nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
> > >
> > >
> > > ever stop and think
> > > >about the slang and
> > > >names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
> > > >named that because of
> > > >hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
> > > >made you feel as
> > > >though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
> > >
> > >
> > > Adam Sjogren
> > > a.k.a. FreakBoy
> > > "The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
> > > http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
> > > ICQ# 41515968
> > >
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You actually GHB make it sound pretty fun.  I think I'll try it now,
I'm Ian Hard
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>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:33:43 EDT
>
>quick note...i have no fukkin clue what we are talking about here, but i
>noticed the subject "GHB."  Just so ya know...I work on an Inpatient
>Psychiatric Unit, and we just had this guy in there for detox and treatment
>for drug-induced state of psychosis from GHB.  Was he fucked up?  HELL
>YES...he thought he was eating out of his ears, could NOT orient to NAME,
>DATE, TIME or PLACE and he was walking through the halls laughing at
>inanimate objects and talking to invisible people...it was really 
>disturbing.
>  Think about it before you do that shit.  Love and chicken grease.
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AHHHHH shut up shut up shut up you're confusing me! man i dont need this 
kind of stress

>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: FreakBoy <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:39:13 -0500 (CDT)
>
>But if you style of trance (which, I happen to love, thank you very much,
>hee) is named after the sound acid, and the sound acid is from a 303, and
>the sound a 303 makes was called 'acid' because of the drug, then your
>style of trance is named after a drug.
>
>
>Which came first, the acid or the chicken... or no wait, the egg... or was
>it the 303?
>
>Kale/DreamSequence
>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
>
> > the point is--my style of trance is not named after a drug, it is named
> > after a common sound, thats like saying hard house is called that 
>because
> > its harder to find or hits you harder and not the snare on top of beat
> > thing--im sure it wasnt always called acid and yes more than one machine
> > makes the acid sound (that one just happens to be the most recognizable) 
>but
> > the fact remains the genre of 'acid' house, trance, and techno were 
>named so
> > because of the 'acid' sound not cause it's like...totally...the best
> > shit...to ummmm..listen to when you're fucked up...right...dude
> >
> >
> > >From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
> > >To: FreakBoy <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
> > >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
> > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:50:02 -0500 (CDT)
> > >
> > >Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come from
> > >for the 303?
> > >While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
> > >other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't 
>forms
> > >of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never had
> > >anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's 
>buttery
> > >noise.
> > >Personally, I think the previous email was right.  It seems logical to
> > >me that the sound, being so insanely tweaked out and odd, (especially 
>when
> > >it was first used for the purpose of music way back when) would be 
>linked
> > >to another 'condition' in which sounds are odd, and unheard of.
> > >
> > >But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
> > >acid!"... What the hell do I know?
> > >Kale/DreamSequence
> > >
> > >On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes 
>out
> > >of a
> > > > tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is 
>called
> > >Acid,
> > > > thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, 
>etc---it
> > >has
> > > > nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ever stop and think
> > > > >about the slang and
> > > > >names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
> > > > >named that because of
> > > > >hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
> > > > >made you feel as
> > > > >though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Adam Sjogren
> > > > a.k.a. FreakBoy
> > > > "The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
> > > > http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
> > > > ICQ# 41515968
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:

> Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come from
> for the 303?
> While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
> other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't forms
> of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never had
> anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's buttery
> noise.
> 
Hi everyone! I'm new to the list and I think I have some insight into
this.  Anyways I recently watched the modulations documentary on the
electronic music movement.  It was quite entertaining and informative I
truly recommend it. The video at a certain point dealt with the
categorizing of the different genres; house derived from a club in
Chicago called the warehouse.  After everyone left the club where they
were hearing Disco mixed with sped up R&B tracks they starting calling
the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
because of the hallucinatory references of the word. I could always be
misinformed, but this seems a more likely evolution, than just saying "Man
this acid shit is funky.  Let's name the music we make after it??"
Peace,
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I hope this can shed some light on the "acid" controversy.  "Acid" was a drug 
reference that was attached to house music back in the early 80's. At which 
point in time there was no "House" but Disco.  I'm sure we all know that 
house music originated in the gay disco clubs of Chicago, at is point in 
music history there was a big revolt against the "soulless" sounds of disco 
and DJs were forced to write, sample new tracks. The 303 was the machine of 
choice.  The tracks original were  played in a club where the owner was 
serving electric Kool-Aid ( Kool-Aid laced with acid).  Hence we all now 
enjoy the "acid" sound.  If anyone would like some more concrete information 
on the subject e-mail me privatley.  Its good to see that people are 
interested in the history of the music they enjoy.  

Aciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid its a state of mind
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> the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
> whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
> tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
> particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not

the Chicago producer is Marshall Jefferson...aka Phuture.  He also came
out with the original "Move your body". (not the "Shifty Disco" Ep on
International DJ Gigolo by Mills)

To go along with this the "acid" name came from his second (yes second)
release after using the TB303 as the "acid sound" which was called "Acid
Tracks" (by Phuture).

Ahh the classics.   Now can anyone tell me where jungle came from?
or better yet: Who started techno?

-mikey
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does it matter though, acid techno is dead

BEFORE YOU FLAME, I SPIN THE STUFF, IT WAS JUST A JOKE


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>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:03:36 EDT
>
>I hope this can shed some light on the "acid" controversy.  "Acid" was a 
>drug
>reference that was attached to house music back in the early 80's. At which
>point in time there was no "House" but Disco.  I'm sure we all know that
>house music originated in the gay disco clubs of Chicago, at is point in
>music history there was a big revolt against the "soulless" sounds of disco
>and DJs were forced to write, sample new tracks. The 303 was the machine of
>choice.  The tracks original were  played in a club where the owner was
>serving electric Kool-Aid ( Kool-Aid laced with acid).  Hence we all now
>enjoy the "acid" sound.  If anyone would like some more concrete 
>information
>on the subject e-mail me privatley.  Its good to see that people are
>interested in the history of the music they enjoy.
>
>Aciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid its a state of mind
>         steve
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, whendee mesich wrote:

> YOu got wear somthing to be able to take it off!
> whendee

Now there's a life philosophy if ever I've heard one. :)

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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, FreakBoy wrote:

> Brandon here on the list (DJ Scam) has a sound blaster live which from what 
> he says is a damn good middle range priced sound card

Yea, the Live! is a great card, especially for MIDI stuff...  My friend
Rob has a AWE64 Gold or whatever it's called and that sound great too..
Optical and Gold RCA outs and a really good low end on it... (That's what
most sound card seem to lack)

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GHB induced Psychosis?  Thats pretty weird, I bet he is on more than GHB,
and this is especially a rare case.
Maybe he was already fucked up in the head.  I done this shit before and it
didnt make me crazy, just made me drunk.
xu

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> quick note...i have no fukkin clue what we are talking about here, but i
> noticed the subject "GHB."  Just so ya know...I work on an Inpatient
> Psychiatric Unit, and we just had this guy in there for detox and
treatment
> for drug-induced state of psychosis from GHB.  Was he fucked up?  HELL
> YES...he thought he was eating out of his ears, could NOT orient to NAME,
> DATE, TIME or PLACE and he was walking through the halls laughing at
> inanimate objects and talking to invisible people...it was really
disturbing.
>  Think about it before you do that shit.  Love and chicken grease.
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>the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
>whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
>tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
>particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
----
that would be dj pierre and the phuture collective.
but the point of this discussion was how the term acid became 
associated with the 303. like did dj pierre coin the term one
day while tripping his balls out and tweaking the resonance?

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This is an Indy party going on this Sat., no?

Anyone have an info line nummer or URL? Thanks in advance, Jace

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Heh heh....
ok, sooooo... why did they decide to call the house track that they
wrote... _Acid_ House?


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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 frye@pubnix.org wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:
> 
> > Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come from
> > for the 303?
> > While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
> > other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't forms
> > of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never had
> > anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's buttery
> > noise.
> > 
> Hi everyone! I'm new to the list and I think I have some insight into
> this.  Anyways I recently watched the modulations documentary on the
> electronic music movement.  It was quite entertaining and informative I
> truly recommend it. The video at a certain point dealt with the
> categorizing of the different genres; house derived from a club in
> Chicago called the warehouse.  After everyone left the club where they
> were hearing Disco mixed with sped up R&B tracks they starting calling
> the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
> whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
> tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
> particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
> because of the hallucinatory references of the word. I could always be
> misinformed, but this seems a more likely evolution, than just saying "Man
> this acid shit is funky.  Let's name the music we make after it??"
> Peace,
> Jason
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Well i can try. Jungle, as i know it, came from a combination of the techno
blanket genre  and the dancehall reggae sounds from Jamaica. They would take
the reggae dubplates, mix it with techno, throw a rasta mc over the top and
there;s your hybrid. As far as names i cannot help ya' but i think that
should give a start to the historical content of jungle. Ill do some
research, thanks for teasing my mind. phil

MikeD wrote:

> > the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
> > whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
> > tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
> > particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
>
> the Chicago producer is Marshall Jefferson...aka Phuture.  He also came
> out with the original "Move your body". (not the "Shifty Disco" Ep on
> International DJ Gigolo by Mills)
>
> To go along with this the "acid" name came from his second (yes second)
> release after using the TB303 as the "acid sound" which was called "Acid
> Tracks" (by Phuture).
>
> Ahh the classics.   Now can anyone tell me where jungle came from?
> or better yet: Who started techno?
>
> -mikey
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If the hairy diskette slyly avoids contact with a proverbial burglar, then a 
photon meditates.  And sometimes... just sometimes another alleged 
fundraiser feels nagging remorse, but the particle accelerator always gives 
lectures on morality to a stoic food stamp!


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Well i can try. Jungle, as i know it, came from a combination of the
techno blanket genre  and the dancehall reggae sounds from Jamaica. They
would take the reggae dubplates, mix it with techno, throw a rasta mc over
the top and there;s your hybrid. As far as names i cannot help ya' but i
think that should give a start to the historical content of jungle. Ill do
some research, thanks for teasing my mind. phil
----
try the cd insert of db's history of our world part 1 written by simon
reynolds. pretty good description of early jungle and drum n bass. but i
think it can be sum up with one word: 'ardkore.

simon reynolds, too, is gaga over 2 step garage.

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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Chandratat, John    wrote:

>  
> >the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
> >whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
> >tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
> >particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
> ----
> that would be dj pierre and the phuture collective.
> but the point of this discussion was how the term acid became 
> associated with the 303. like did dj pierre coin the term one
> day while tripping his balls out and tweaking the resonance?
> 
I believe that I was staying true to the disussion already undergone, but
regardless I'll relieve myself of some more change.  The experimental
house tracks that Phuture produced including the 1986 release of Acid
Trax.  Was categorized for the radical change it was making in the club
and culture worldwid, similar in respect to the radical change done to a
first time acid dropper.  Regardless the term I believe was used for the
symbolic implications of the acid term, not for the actual use of the drug
while tweaking the nobs.  But I am not Marshall Jefferson, so I cannot
answer this question validly.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 21:15:09 1999
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And how do you think the 303 came to be asociated with acid in the first 
place, dumbass?
Like, use the fuckin brain God gave ya?
Ever seen "Modulaitons" this quesiton is discussed and answered rather 
accurately.
Dumbass.


>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
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>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:57 CDT
>
>Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out of a
>tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called 
>Acid,
>thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it has
>nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
>
>
>ever stop and think
>>about the slang and
>>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>>named that because of
>>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>>made you feel as
>>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>
>
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If you want to see what GHB does to you, go check out the Ryan "Whatever" 
story under previous editions of the Ian Daily News. www.ianhardrecords.com  
He didn't like it that much.
I'm Ian Hard
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>From: Josh Day <JDay@CJI.State.IN.US>
>To: 'Ian Hard' <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: [mw] GHB
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:01:23 -0500
>
>Your such an asshole, but your really good at it, so I guess it's an
>admirable trait...uh, I think...
>
>	-----Original Message-----
>	From:	Ian Hard [SMTP:virtualweb3@hotmail.com]
>	Sent:	Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:45 PM
>	To:	mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>
>	You actually GHB make it sound pretty fun.  I think I'll try it now,
>	I'm Ian Hard
>	Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
>	4600 Chippewa PMB 161
>	St. louis, Mo.63116
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>	www.virtualwebtechnology.com
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>	ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
>
>	>From: Aphexx21@aol.com
>	>Reply-To: Aphexx21@aol.com
>	>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>	>Subject: Re: [mw] GHB
>	>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:33:43 EDT
>	>
>	>quick note...i have no fukkin clue what we are talking about here,
>but i
>	>noticed the subject "GHB."  Just so ya know...I work on an
>Inpatient
>	>Psychiatric Unit, and we just had this guy in there for detox and
>treatment
>	>for drug-induced state of psychosis from GHB.  Was he fucked up?
>HELL
>	>YES...he thought he was eating out of his ears, could NOT orient to
>NAME,
>	>DATE, TIME or PLACE and he was walking through the halls laughing
>at
>	>inanimate objects and talking to invisible people...it was really
>	>disturbing.
>	>  Think about it before you do that shit.  Love and chicken grease.
>	>
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House was invented by 3 brothas smokin crack on the south side of Chicago.  
Crack house just didn't sound as good.
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
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>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>Reply-To: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: frye@pubnix.org
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:40:53 -0500 (CDT)
>
>Heh heh....
>ok, sooooo... why did they decide to call the house track that they
>wrote... _Acid_ House?
>
>
>Kale "the instigator" DreamSequence
>
>signature
>
>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 frye@pubnix.org wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:
> >
> > > Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come 
>from
> > > for the 303?
> > > While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
> > > other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't 
>forms
> > > of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never 
>had
> > > anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's 
>buttery
> > > noise.
> > >
> > Hi everyone! I'm new to the list and I think I have some insight into
> > this.  Anyways I recently watched the modulations documentary on the
> > electronic music movement.  It was quite entertaining and informative I
> > truly recommend it. The video at a certain point dealt with the
> > categorizing of the different genres; house derived from a club in
> > Chicago called the warehouse.  After everyone left the club where they
> > were hearing Disco mixed with sped up R&B tracks they starting calling
> > the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
> > whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
> > tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
> > particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
> > because of the hallucinatory references of the word. I could always be
> > misinformed, but this seems a more likely evolution, than just saying 
>"Man
> > this acid shit is funky.  Let's name the music we make after it??"
> > Peace,
> > Jason
> >
> >
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Wow is your dick truely that small that everyone on this list has to deal 
with your "big dumb jock--fuck you, i'll kick your ass" style penis envy?  
let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin

>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:14:14 EDT
>
>And how do you think the 303 came to be asociated with acid in the first 
>place, dumbass?
>Like, use the fuckin brain God gave ya?
>Ever seen "Modulaitons" this quesiton is discussed and answered rather 
>accurately.
>Dumbass.
>
>
>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:57 CDT
>>
>>Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out of 
>>a
>>tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called 
>>Acid,
>>thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it has
>>nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
>>
>>
>>ever stop and think
>>>about the slang and
>>>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>>>named that because of
>>>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>>>made you feel as
>>>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>>
>>
>>Adam Sjogren
>>a.k.a. FreakBoy
>>"The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
>>http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
>>ICQ# 41515968
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 21:58:24 1999
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Simon Reynolds on the term "acid" and house:

"Pierre, Jefferson, and Co gave a tape of the session
to DJ Ron Hardy.  The track [Phuture's "Acid Tracks"]
became such a sensation at the Music Box that it was
known as Ron Hardy's Acid Trax, a reference to the
rumor that the club's intense, flipped-out vibe was
caused by the promoters' putting LSD in the water
supply.  Subsequently, acid producers strove to
distance the music from hallucinogenics, claiming the
name was chosen because the 303's weird 'n' wired
sound reminded them of acid rock.  Another story
circulating by mid-1988 was that "acid" came from
"acid burn," Chicago slang for sampling somebody
else's sound--not really plausible, since sampling
didn't play a major role in early house, which was
based on analog synths rather than digital technology."

I think a couple of you said a couple of those things
already, but there you have it.  I'm just parroting
Reynolds, though (Using a reference!  I'm such a
college dweeb!), I personally don't know JACK about
HOUSE (bu-dump chink).

At any rate, "acid rock" has been around since the
1960s, and I don't think there's any doubt that the
association of "acid" with a genre of music referred
to LSD.  This isn't anything new, guys.

What else does acid mean?  I don't think producers
had the concentration of hydrogen ions or the
neutralization of alkalis in mind when they used the
term in the tracks.  But what do I know?  In 1988,
I was still years away from getting into Pearl Jam
and Metallica, much less kickin' it undaground stylee.

Now an mw-raves-digest loser (it's all part of my
proactive "save the drama fo yo mama" policy).

np: J. Little "The Hump is On" 12"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 21:58:30 1999
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Oh and if you really want to flame me at this this level get a fucking life, 
go to www.mplscandy.com or something, you'll find lots of people on your 
intelligence level to throw undeveloped arguements at!


>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:51:04 CDT
>
>
>Wow is your dick truely that small that everyone on this list has to deal
>with your "big dumb jock--fuck you, i'll kick your ass" style penis envy?
>let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin
>
>>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:14:14 EDT
>>
>>And how do you think the 303 came to be asociated with acid in the first
>>place, dumbass?
>>Like, use the fuckin brain God gave ya?
>>Ever seen "Modulaitons" this quesiton is discussed and answered rather
>>accurately.
>>Dumbass.
>>
>>
>>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:57 CDT
>>>
>>>Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out of
>>>a
>>>tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called
>>>Acid,
>>>thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it has
>>>nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
>>>
>>>
>>>ever stop and think
>>>>about the slang and
>>>>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>>>>named that because of
>>>>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>>>>made you feel as
>>>>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>>>
>>>
>>>Adam Sjogren
>>>a.k.a. FreakBoy
>>>"The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
>>>http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
>>>ICQ# 41515968
>>>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 22:28:02 1999
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actually, Funk and Dica invented house music in 1997 together... but now 
they're both dead.

-riotnerd


>From: "Ian Hard" <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Ian Hard" <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] How house was invented
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:28:18 GMT
>
>House was invented by 3 brothas smokin crack on the south side of Chicago.
>Crack house just didn't sound as good.
>I'm Ian Hard
>Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
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>St. louis, Mo.63116
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>
>>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>>Reply-To: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>
>>To: frye@pubnix.org
>>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:40:53 -0500 (CDT)
>>
>>Heh heh....
>>ok, sooooo... why did they decide to call the house track that they
>>wrote... _Acid_ House?
>>
>>
>>Kale "the instigator" DreamSequence
>>
>>signature
>>
>>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 frye@pubnix.org wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, DreamSequence wrote:
>> >
>> > > Ooooookay Mr. SmartyPants, and whhhhheeeere did the term Acid come
>>from
>> > > for the 303?
>> > > While already aware of the 303 producing the sound called 'acid' (and
>> > > other machines emulating it), and already being aware of why diff't
>>forms
>> > > of our electronic music styles gain the prefix 'acid', I have never
>>had
>> > > anyone tell me why the term acid was originally used for the 303's
>>buttery
>> > > noise.
>> > >
>> > Hi everyone! I'm new to the list and I think I have some insight into
>> > this.  Anyways I recently watched the modulations documentary on the
>> > electronic music movement.  It was quite entertaining and informative I
>> > truly recommend it. The video at a certain point dealt with the
>> > categorizing of the different genres; house derived from a club in
>> > Chicago called the warehouse.  After everyone left the club where they
>> > were hearing Disco mixed with sped up R&B tracks they starting calling
>> > the music they heard house.  Shorly thereafter a Chicago house producer
>> > whose name is evading me, began making house tracks.  One of his first
>> > tracks he produced was titled "Acid House", so everyone called this
>> > particular style of music Acid because of the use of the TB303.  Not
>> > because of the hallucinatory references of the word. I could always be
>> > misinformed, but this seems a more likely evolution, than just saying
>>"Man
>> > this acid shit is funky.  Let's name the music we make after it??"
>> > Peace,
>> > Jason
>> >
>> >
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FreakBoy wrote:

> let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin

hoho....yer pissin up da wrong tree now son.

betta take yer high-steppin city-boy ass away from it fore it falls on ya.

BOO-YAH!!!!

*huggles*
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no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Sep 30 22:31:08 1999
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I finally got my fucking laptop back.  This is the greatest day in the
entire history of humanity.  Stupid Gateway 2000 was so damn dumb that
they sent it to my old apartament instead of the shipping address that I
wrote on the fucking form they had me fill out.

Anyway, to keep this rave related, I've been so ecstatic over getting my
laptop back that I've already written two songs and I'm working on more.
So I'm wondering if there are any hardcore, jungle or anything else
producers/performers or whatever that would be interested in collaborating
on some stuff... 

I have a few unfinished tracks on my site at http://www.mp3.com/atomly
(perkum and liqourtronic right now) that I'd like some people to remix or
whatever if they wre intersted in doing it.

Thank you, that is all.

--
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nooo!
havent you heard what a newbie dica is?
duh.


>
>actually, Funk and Dica invented house music in 1997 together... but now
>they're both dead.
>
>-riotnerd
>
>


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ROBERT'S TRYING TO PLAY NICE! He doesn't know jack shit! My fucking MOM
was doing coke at raves before you were fucking born, bitch.

Matt

On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:

> Sure ... drugs have always been at "raves" since the beginning ... but it was 
> at a MUCH smaller level.  Not as many people did it, and they did it less 
> frequently.  And the thought of seeing anybody snorting anything was crazy.  
> There used to never be any powder at raves.  It was strictly Bud, Acid & E... 
> (in that order)  The over use and abuse of drugs have hurt the scene a lot... 
> Not to mention all the greed
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heres the data from the flyer...317.767.3856  usul337331@aol.com...does
anyone know how much it is to get in???

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940B morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@hotmail.com
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> This is an Indy party going on this Sat., no?
>
> Anyone have an info line nummer or URL? Thanks in advance, Jace
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I heard that acid used to be called LSD, and then when the 303 came out
and roland invented acid house, they had to start calling it acid instead
of LSD.

Matt

On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, richard shebestak wrote:

> 
> >But, not having been there when someone said... "hey, let's call this
> >acid!"... What the hell do I know?
> 
> Wasn't the term acid derived from that track in the UK back in like 87 
> or 88. I think it was called This is acid or something? The guy's voice 
> going "acIIIIIIIIID....ac..acIIIIIIIIID"
> 
> I don't know.....
> 
> ricA
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And if you want to see what alcohol does to you check out (insert some
addy)
And if you want to see what MDMA does to you see (insert some addy)
and if you want to see what lsd does to you....
and if you want to see what marijuana does to you...
and if you want to see what smoking does to you...
and if you want to see the dangers of driving a car...
and if you want to see your chances of surviving the nuclear winter..
and if you want to see what pitbulls do to you...
and if you want to see what ... 
ah hell, never mind... I'm sure you all can find it, whatever it is that
you are trying to say is bad.  Lemme know if you can't find a website for
tomorrows bad-thing-dujour.  I'll be glad to make one for ya.  Full of all
kinds of written information.  Given, I won't have collected it myself,
but it'll likely be allllll true.  

=)
Kale/DreamSequence


On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Ian Hard wrote:

> If you want to see what GHB does to you, go check out the Ryan "Whatever" 
> story under previous editions of the Ian Daily News. www.ianhardrecords.com  
> He didn't like it that much.
> I'm Ian Hard
> Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> 4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> St. louis, Mo.63116
> 314.994.1284
> www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> www.ianhardrecords.com
> ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> 
> 
> >From: Josh Day <JDay@CJI.State.IN.US>
> >To: 'Ian Hard' <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: RE: [mw] GHB
> >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:01:23 -0500
> >
> >Your such an asshole, but your really good at it, so I guess it's an
> >admirable trait...uh, I think...
> >
> >	-----Original Message-----
> >	From:	Ian Hard [SMTP:virtualweb3@hotmail.com]
> >	Sent:	Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:45 PM
> >	To:	mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >	Subject:	Re: [mw] GHB
> >
> >	You actually GHB make it sound pretty fun.  I think I'll try it now,
> >	I'm Ian Hard
> >	Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> >	4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> >	St. louis, Mo.63116
> >	314.994.1284
> >	www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> >	sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> >	www.ianhardrecords.com
> >	ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> >
> >	>From: Aphexx21@aol.com
> >	>Reply-To: Aphexx21@aol.com
> >	>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >	>Subject: Re: [mw] GHB
> >	>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:33:43 EDT
> >	>
> >	>quick note...i have no fukkin clue what we are talking about here,
> >but i
> >	>noticed the subject "GHB."  Just so ya know...I work on an
> >Inpatient
> >	>Psychiatric Unit, and we just had this guy in there for detox and
> >treatment
> >	>for drug-induced state of psychosis from GHB.  Was he fucked up?
> >HELL
> >	>YES...he thought he was eating out of his ears, could NOT orient to
> >NAME,
> >	>DATE, TIME or PLACE and he was walking through the halls laughing
> >at
> >	>inanimate objects and talking to invisible people...it was really
> >	>disturbing.
> >	>  Think about it before you do that shit.  Love and chicken grease.
> >	>
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Does anyone know where I can get Dave Matthew's booking info line agent?

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>Wow is your dick truely that small that everyone on this list has to deal
>with your "big dumb jock--fuck you, i'll kick your ass" style penis envy?
>let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin

something wrong with small town wisconsin?!?


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for general music purposes I prefer the monster mx300. It seems to be less
of a resource hog than the SBLive and it didn't crash my system nearly as
much. For professional recording I use the Digital Audio Labs "digital only
cardD"... You can look these items up among other computer parts for DIRT
CHEAP at www.pricewatch.com ... You can find stuff about 1/2 price here
compared to retail or even mail order catalogs. Hope this helps.

- Andrew / Radianation
http://www.louipimps.com

>Brandon here on the list (DJ Scam) has a sound blaster live which from what
>he says is a damn good middle range priced sound card

, I'm thinking about starting to buy some equipment of my own.
>Can anyone recommend a moderately priced PC sound card with good midi
>support?  I figure that and a synthesizer are all I need to get
>started.  The synth I'm using now is the Roland JV-80.  It's the
>school's.  Anyone know anything about it?  Price?  Quality?  I like
>the feel of it, but I don't want one for myself if it's gonna set me
>back a titload or if it's gonna break in a month.
>
>Thanks in advance for the info.



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Anybody that has booking info for Carlos hit me back with it please.  Thanks =)


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HAHAHA see only small town peeps would piss up a tree, we city folk like to 
wipe our ass with poison ivy when we go camping though


>From: Big Black Betty <arnoarr4@milwpc.com>
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>
>
>
>FreakBoy wrote:
>
> > let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin
>
>hoho....yer pissin up da wrong tree now son.
>
>betta take yer high-steppin city-boy ass away from it fore it falls on ya.
>
>BOO-YAH!!!!
>
>*huggles*
>--aRNO
>
>http://poofin.com/arno/
>1001011 01101110 11010110 10001010
>
>no me haga el sueño con las cucarachas, por favor
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 01 00:14:02 1999
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and my mom speed, oh wait she doesnt like me talking about that


>From: matt <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
>Reply-To: matt <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
>To: The MidWest Parliament <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Re: drugs at parties
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:34:01 -0500 (CDT)
>
>ROBERT'S TRYING TO PLAY NICE! He doesn't know jack shit! My fucking MOM
>was doing coke at raves before you were fucking born, bitch.
>
>Matt
>
>On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 RobertC4me@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Sure ... drugs have always been at "raves" since the beginning ... but 
>it was
> > at a MUCH smaller level.  Not as many people did it, and they did it 
>less
> > frequently.  And the thought of seeing anybody snorting anything was 
>crazy.
> > There used to never be any powder at raves.  It was strictly Bud, Acid & 
>E...
> > (in that order)  The over use and abuse of drugs have hurt the scene a 
>lot...
> > Not to mention all the greed
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 01 00:23:53 1999
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After four years of being associated with the live project known as 
'q-systems' and the dj/mc duo 'unified theory' with dj 3d,  I would like to 
announce publicly that i am no longer associated with either of these 
projects.  To all of my highly talented partners in all of the above 
projects, including elissa, snuggles, and 3d, i wish my best regards and know 
that they continue the legacy on with themselves.  For the lack of a better 
cliche explanation to everyone i can only cite creative differences in not 
only the musical selection but in the direction that we all wished to take 
the concept.  As a result, - i will no longer - be appearing with the 
aforementioned artists.  I will miss the collaboration, genuinely, but must 
look forward towards the future.

I will for those who are interested be touring in three different 
combinations in the future.  One of course, being behind the decks, but more 
so touring behind the decks and the mic simultaneously.  These are the two 
things i love to do most in the world, and i finally have gotten the balls to 
start owning up to this.  I also will be touring a 'live p.a.' complete with 
a live drummer, Adam Nelson, who has long been a staple in our neighborhood 
with the now infamous q-studios loft parties, hosting such talent as johnny 
fiasco, collette, derrick carter, as well our cosmic breaks crew.  Adam is an 
experienced and soulful addition to the organic concept that i have been long 
trying to reach, a live rhythm section - seamless and fluid - attached to a 
live hip hop oriented mc playing the music i've long grown attached to, 
jungle music.  I also will be doing patchwork mc'ing for my crew on 
occasion... and will be touring with a live project with miss biobooster and 
undoubtedly  the future as well as sparring with my usual comrade and best 
friend, eye-d, from Holland.

I say this publicly only out of respect for the people that i have 
entertained, cos you are my energy and light.  

i have been blessed to have been able to touch however many hearts i have in 
this.  

to those people, my family and  to my God, thank you for riding this rail 
with me and i will not let you down.  

underground.

entro
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how do you know I'm male?


>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:51:04 CDT
>
>
>Wow is your dick truely that small that everyone on this list has to deal
>with your "big dumb jock--fuck you, i'll kick your ass" style penis envy?
>let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin
>
>>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:14:14 EDT
>>
>>And how do you think the 303 came to be asociated with acid in the first
>>place, dumbass?
>>Like, use the fuckin brain God gave ya?
>>Ever seen "Modulaitons" this quesiton is discussed and answered rather
>>accurately.
>>Dumbass.
>>
>>
>>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:57 CDT
>>>
>>>Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out of
>>>a
>>>tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called
>>>Acid,
>>>thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it has
>>>nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
>>>
>>>
>>>ever stop and think
>>>>about the slang and
>>>>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>>>>named that because of
>>>>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>>>>made you feel as
>>>>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>>>
>>>
>>>Adam Sjogren
>>>a.k.a. FreakBoy
>>>"The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
>>>http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
>>>ICQ# 41515968
>>>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 01 01:30:31 1999
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solidstate invites you to join us for another installment of...

PHONO
Wednesday 10/13/99

featuring...

BAD BOY BILL
SYNERGY

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 01 01:31:15 1999
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> actually, Funk and Dica invented house music in 1997 together... but now 
>  they're both dead.
>  

that's funny, i thought Richie Hawtin invented house music.  Or maybe he 
killed funk and claimed it for himself..

and, i don't think Dica was in the scene in '97... that's waaay to old skool.


/sarcasm off

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 01 01:42:45 1999
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it doesnt really matter since it was a metaphorical reference


>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:40:32 EDT
>
>how do you know I'm male?
>
>
>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:51:04 CDT
>>
>>
>>Wow is your dick truely that small that everyone on this list has to deal
>>with your "big dumb jock--fuck you, i'll kick your ass" style penis envy?
>>let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin
>>
>>>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>>>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:14:14 EDT
>>>
>>>And how do you think the 303 came to be asociated with acid in the first
>>>place, dumbass?
>>>Like, use the fuckin brain God gave ya?
>>>Ever seen "Modulaitons" this quesiton is discussed and answered rather
>>>accurately.
>>>Dumbass.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:57 CDT
>>>>
>>>>Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out 
>>>>of
>>>>a
>>>>tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called
>>>>Acid,
>>>>thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it 
>>>>has
>>>>nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>ever stop and think
>>>>>about the slang and
>>>>>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>>>>>named that because of
>>>>>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>>>>>made you feel as
>>>>>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Adam Sjogren
>>>>a.k.a. FreakBoy
>>>>"The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
>>>>http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
>>>>ICQ# 41515968
>>>>
>>>>______________________________________________________
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>>>>
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now you tell me..


>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:41:29 CDT
>
>it doesnt really matter since it was a metaphorical reference
>
>
>>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:40:32 EDT
>>
>>how do you know I'm male?
>>
>>
>>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:51:04 CDT
>>>
>>>
>>>Wow is your dick truely that small that everyone on this list has to deal
>>>with your "big dumb jock--fuck you, i'll kick your ass" style penis envy?
>>>let me guess, you're from small town wisconsin
>>>
>>>>From: "Steven Vansteenkiste" <imonfyre@hotmail.com>
>>>>To: kasjogren@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:14:14 EDT
>>>>
>>>>And how do you think the 303 came to be asociated with acid in the first
>>>>place, dumbass?
>>>>Like, use the fuckin brain God gave ya?
>>>>Ever seen "Modulaitons" this quesiton is discussed and answered rather
>>>>accurately.
>>>>Dumbass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>>>Reply-To: "FreakBoy" <kasjogren@hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: [mw] ?????straightedge ravers????what
>>>>>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:22:57 CDT
>>>>>
>>>>>Um no, It's called that becuase it has the analog sound that comes out
>>>>>of
>>>>>a
>>>>>tb303, this sound, which is completely non-organic in nature is called
>>>>>Acid,
>>>>>thats why it is called acid house, acid techno, acid trance, etc---it
>>>>>has
>>>>>nothing to do with the drug reference you mistakenly pointed out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>ever stop and think
>>>>>>about the slang and
>>>>>>names we have, such as 'Acid House', i don't think it was
>>>>>>named that because of
>>>>>>hydrochloric acid dripping form the bass bins or because it
>>>>>>made you feel as
>>>>>>though you were swimming in a giant pool of sulfuric acid..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Adam Sjogren
>>>>>a.k.a. FreakBoy
>>>>>"The Pyschedelic Avenger" AND ACID TRANCE DJ
>>>>>http://www.alliedsubstructure.com
>>>>>ICQ# 41515968
>>>>>
>>>>>______________________________________________________
>>>>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>>>>>
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bad breath bill, huh, huh, huh...


>From: Brad Owen <synergy@pitnet.net>
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>To: Midwest Raves <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [mw] BAD BOY BILL - Milwaukee Wednesday 10/13/99
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:31:40 -0500
>
>solidstate invites you to join us for another installment of...
>
>PHONO
>Wednesday 10/13/99
>
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>
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>SYNERGY
>
>21+  9pm  414.256.1396
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um, so somebody at work told me there was a "rave" in bowling green tomorrow 
night. i was just wondering if anybody knew anything about it, who'd be 
there, etc.. thanx.

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If you want to see the affects of crack on unborn babies, go to 
www.ianhardrecords.com
If you want to see what too much booty house does to your brain, go to
www.ianhardrecords.com
If you want to see what ant-psychotics do to people with dyslexia, go to  
www.ianhardrecords.com
If you want to see what its' like to candyflip at a funeral, go to 
www.ianhardrecords.com
If you'd like to learn more about marketing, go to
www.ianhardrecords.com
I'm Ian Hard
Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
4600 Chippewa PMB 161
St. louis, Mo.63116
314.994.1284
www.virtualwebtechnology.com
sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
www.ianhardrecords.com
ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
>From: DreamSequence <kcpeters@students.uiuc.edu>

>
>And if you want to see what alcohol does to you check out (insert some
>addy)
>And if you want to see what MDMA does to you see (insert some addy)
>and if you want to see what lsd does to you....
>and if you want to see what marijuana does to you...
>and if you want to see what smoking does to you...
>and if you want to see the dangers of driving a car...
>and if you want to see your chances of surviving the nuclear winter..
>and if you want to see what pitbulls do to you...
>and if you want to see what ...
>ah hell, never mind... I'm sure you all can find it, whatever it is that
>you are trying to say is bad.  Lemme know if you can't find a website for
>tomorrows bad-thing-dujour.  I'll be glad to make one for ya.  Full of all
>kinds of written information.  Given, I won't have collected it myself,
>but it'll likely be allllll true.
>
>=)
>Kale/DreamSequence
>
>
>On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Ian Hard wrote:
>
> > If you want to see what GHB does to you, go check out the Ryan 
>"Whatever"
> > story under previous editions of the Ian Daily News. 
>www.ianhardrecords.com
> > He didn't like it that much.
> > I'm Ian Hard
> > Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> > 4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> > St. louis, Mo.63116
> > 314.994.1284
> > www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> > sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> > www.ianhardrecords.com
> > ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> >
> >
> > >From: Josh Day <JDay@CJI.State.IN.US>
> > >To: 'Ian Hard' <virtualweb3@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [mw] GHB
> > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:01:23 -0500
> > >
> > >Your such an asshole, but your really good at it, so I guess it's an
> > >admirable trait...uh, I think...
> > >
> > >	-----Original Message-----
> > >	From:	Ian Hard [SMTP:virtualweb3@hotmail.com]
> > >	Sent:	Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:45 PM
> > >	To:	mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >	Subject:	Re: [mw] GHB
> > >
> > >	You actually GHB make it sound pretty fun.  I think I'll try it now,
> > >	I'm Ian Hard
> > >	Ian Hard/Virtual Web Technology
> > >	4600 Chippewa PMB 161
> > >	St. louis, Mo.63116
> > >	314.994.1284
> > >	www.virtualwebtechnology.com
> > >	sseep@virtualwebtechnology.com
> > >	www.ianhardrecords.com
> > >	ianhard@ianhardrecords.com
> > >
> > >	>From: Aphexx21@aol.com
> > >	>Reply-To: Aphexx21@aol.com
> > >	>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >	>Subject: Re: [mw] GHB
> > >	>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:33:43 EDT
> > >	>
> > >	>quick note...i have no fukkin clue what we are talking about here,
> > >but i
> > >	>noticed the subject "GHB."  Just so ya know...I work on an
> > >Inpatient
> > >	>Psychiatric Unit, and we just had this guy in there for detox and
> > >treatment
> > >	>for drug-induced state of psychosis from GHB.  Was he fucked up?
> > >HELL
> > >	>YES...he thought he was eating out of his ears, could NOT orient to
> > >NAME,
> > >	>DATE, TIME or PLACE and he was walking through the halls laughing
> > >at
> > >	>inanimate objects and talking to invisible people...it was really
> > >	>disturbing.
> > >	>  Think about it before you do that shit.  Love and chicken grease.
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I haven't seen adam post anything about this to here...it's a $5 
party...promises to be fun...please help support the Purdue/West 
Lafayette scene...

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Subject:        	[pur] ACRE RAVE LINE UP TIMES (djs please read)


=======
LINE UP (subject to change)
=======

TIME   CODE NAME       SECRET IDENTITY	     SPECIAL 
POWER
-----------------------------------------------------------
10 pm  DJ FORCE         (sunil joseph)       chicago house
11 pm  DJ TIMMY         (tim krutz)          ghetto/hard house
12 am  ELLEN WOO        (mark ellenwood)     hard techno
1  am  DJ KUTRUFF       (andy kutruff)       party house
2  am  MELVILLE JENKINS (jon herring)        drums and bass
3  am  BLACK SAUSAGE    (henry robinson)     housey house
4  am  BRIAN EVANS      (brian evans)        cyber trance
5  am  DJ POET          (jim ?????)          mtv electronica
------------------------------------------------------------
[this line up is slightly different than the flyers because Beol cant make
it after all...Would all djs please confirm with a quick email to me?]    


sound by: Krutz, WCCR, Theta Xi, and Tarkington
lights by: WCCR

vibe by: you!

.see you there.



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there's also the story served up by Genesis P-Orridge of Psychic TV that
'acid' was short for 'acid burn' which was slang for stealing or
sampling something... so 'acid' house referred to the sampling that was
going on, not to drugs...

of course... this is the same guy that was calling his tracks 'tabs' at
that point... so I'm almost positive that's something he made up to drag
the media away from the drug angle.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Oct 01 04:37:49 1999
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> what is the date for this event?
> promoter info line 3 also please?
> 

Oct. 1...I'm a little late sending this out...k... a lot late...anyone that 
can make it would be nice...there's no official info line...but if you 
need help...email me...or can try calling me, 765-495-4109...

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Is that what that party is called?  
Ah well, the one with the very James Bondish name to it that's happening in 
Minneapolis at the St. Paul East Armory...
Can anyone give me the number and the date for this party?  I lost my flyer 
and have some friends who would like to go.
Thanks in advance  :)

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ok, tonight I saw the Matrix for the first time since I saw it in the
theaters last year.  When I first saw it I was just in awe of the special
effects and the story that the writers had intricately thought out.  This
time when I saw it, I was more tuned into the details.  

Ever noticed how in the beginning when Trinity is detected by the agents
that she is in room 303!!!  and also at the end of the movie when Neil is
trying to find a phone line out of matrix, the operator tells him to go to
room 30fuckin3!!!! 

Coincidence......... I think not!

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dave matthews band rawks


>Does anyone know where I can get Dave Matthew's booking info line agent?
>
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You kiddies goin to Indy on Sat?


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THE BODY SNATCHERS
Saturday October 23rd 1999
Indianapolis, IN


David Hollands - Minamal wage/Sm:le Communications/Satellite Records - New 
York City
     David Hollands could possibly be the future sound of house and techno.  
Not only has he headlined the stage with such world renowned talent as Jeff 
Mills and Richie Hawtin, but he has also been awarded the title of "The next 
100" most influential artists by URB Magazine.  This original child of the 
corn will spook the soul straight outcha body!

Cyberjive - Rising Sun Records/ Muzique Boutique - New Orleans
     John Larner has gained a tremendous amount of respect as one of the 
most talented house DJs in North America.  Over the last year John has 
shared the decks with such international superstars as Derrick Carter and 
Laurent Garnier.  John's deep penetrating house is gonna scare the heebee 
geebees outta ya . . . much like the monster in his pants!

Mike Bryant - Intrinsic Design Records/Intergroove - New York City
     Mike Bryant has become a staple in the New York club scene.  SInce he 
first arrived on the east coast, Mike has shared his unique blend of house 
and techno in New York's finest clubs including Limelight, Save the Robots 
and Twilo.  Mike, better known as the sleeping gypsy midget in Europe, will 
make jets of fire shoot out your eye sockets!

Revolution 9 (Live Performance) - Scarab Records

Slater Hogan - Muzique Boutique/Genius Insanity

Shiva - SUBterror/Goddess Complex

Chocolate (The Freaky Afro-naut) - House of Babylon

Max - Sin

Mudkids (Live Performance) - Crush Entertainment

Josh Holmes - Scarab Records/Square One Recordings

Jonathan Keith - Muzique Boutique

Timothy Pininfarina - Room

Notty - Scarab Records/BRB Productions

Matt Porter - Univibe

Matt Aiden - Funk enterprises

In the tradition of Halloween this event will be a MASQUERAVE.  There will 
be a $100 prize awarded for best costume, $50 prize for second place and $25 
prize for third place.  Wear your costumes or wear nothing at all!

Paranormal sound and ethereal lights conjured up by Log Squared

Haunted house opens opens at 10pm

This is the official Indiana reunion party.  Though these performers have 
all moved to new heights in their careers, they have agreed to come back to 
their hometown to give one final history lesson in music.  We have also 
brought together the finest "new-school" Indiana talent to show you where 
the future of our scene is headed.  Prepare yourself Indianapolis!  This is 
a once in a life time chance to take part in the past, present and future 
evolution of a movement that is over eight years in the making:  The Indiana 
Rave Scene!


Scarab Records
317.767.5103
Scarabsong@aol.com
www.scarabrecords.com

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nah it was a rekkid called acid tracks 
and it came out of chicago
and it was house

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didn't everyone see modulations?

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