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From: Cynthia ** <glowstik@expert.cc.purdue.edu>
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yeah, I've seen it...it's just a pain for me to get to Netscape...but 
okay..thanks anyway :)

On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, eluna wrote:

> doh, this is what the webpage is for!
> 
> http://hyperreal.com/raves/mw/calendar/
> 
> see??  it exists!!  really!!
> 
> (wonders if anyone even knows there IS a mw webpage...)
> 
> nothing personal cynthia...perhaps you dont have web access?
> ++
> e d
> 

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Cynthia:

> yeah, I've seen it...it's just a pain for me to get to Netscape...but 
> okay..thanks anyway :)
> 
> On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, eluna wrote:
> 
> > doh, this is what the webpage is for!
> > 
> > http://hyperreal.com/raves/mw/calendar/
> > 
> > see??  it exists!!  really!!
> > 
> > (wonders if anyone even knows there IS a mw webpage...)
> > 
> > nothing personal cynthia...perhaps you dont have web access?

And... for those of us who feel that the web is a paradigm for all that is
(and will be) bad on the net, ftp to ftp.hyperreal.com and grab
raves/mw/mwravescalendar.  Or gopher there.

No offense to Ed, of course.  Hyperreal's pages rock, as webpages go.  :)


-- 
Craig Stodolenak
archon@acid.com

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thanks for all the help guys :)
Cynthia

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  2 09:14:45 1996
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Okay, as a person who has 8 piercings, 7 of which are on my ears, I read 
this in the "All In A Day's Work" section of June's issue of the Reader's 
Digest, and about fell out of my chair laughing. Partiall because it's 
funny, and partially because when I went to get a blood test not too long 
ago, the same situation happened to me. =)

 "One day a young man who had his ears, nose and even his tongue pierced 
came into our office to buy contact lenses. After the optometrist 
completed the eye exam, she told the teen-ager she was going to check the 
fit and prescription by putting the lenses into his eyes.
  The patient looked at the optometrist fearfully and asked, "Is this 
going to hurt?""

heehee Hope you all have a great day!

*hugs-n-smooches*

-Becky =)


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*****************************************************
****       Evolution     and     Maxximum        ****
****                 present on                  ****
****               July 20th 1996                ****
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****             T R A N S P H E R E             ****
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Come celebrate Tim's and French E's birthdays with
the following DJs :

DJ Efex (chicago)
DJ Eric Haupt (detroit)
DJ Kell (Lexington)
DJ Matt (Louisville)
DJ Mindrive (Madison)
DJ Brad (Louisville)
DJ Leviathan (Louiville)
DJ French E (Louisville)
DJ Phantom 45 (Chicago)

Smartbar by IMSmartRU
Sound by Maxximum (Bassosaurus Rex)
Lights by Maxximum

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  2 13:19:51 1996
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I've never done a review before, mainly because I figured someone else
would probably do a better job. But, I'm not feelin terribly productive
today so I'll give it a shot.

Got the poop on a party in Ypsilanti yesterday and decided I'd go alone
given I had nothing else to do. My friend Kammy couldnt make it, but I
had the groove flowin and went anyway. :)

Got there about 11:45 and checked out the space a little. It was in this
old buidling in the center of Ypsilanti. On the first floor was a nice
chillout area with some requisite ambient tunage and a vendor seeling cold
drinks. Which was great given how hot it was, more later. Upstairs was
the main room. When I first walked in the back door and paid my $12, I
could barely hear the music. I was thinking "great, the building is so 
close to housing that the sound level is gonna suck" WRONG. The building
was very well sound insulated, that was all.

Anyway, upstairs was rockin when I got there,( and hadnt stopped when I left
sometime around 5:30). Some guy dressed in a pair of overalls and no shirt
was spinnin some great funky tunes and going to town on that mixer. VERY
good DJ. But, why would Numark put a power switch right beside one of the
equalizers? He hit that power switch with his fingers when he was doin
some shit witht the equalizers. He shrugged it off, turned it back on and 
kept on going! I think his name was Derric, and someone told me he was 
from Toronto. I'm not sure, but I'll be lookin for his name on future
fliers.

After him was A Place Called Bliss. He was great too! Not as energetci
behind the decks, but spun some great tunage too. It was gonna be a great
night. :)

Then, Traxx came on. WOAH. First time I've ever seen this guy. Talk
about energetic and crazy on the decks! I danced and danced, mostly
that "Starin-in-awe-at-DJ headbob" that most people up front were doin.
I came to my senses and moved back on the floor a bit and danced very
hard for a long time.

Lemme digress a second and say that it was fuckin hot!! upstairs. And I'm
not talkin music, but heat. No air movement, no ventilation. Just fuckin
hot. Thank god for the basement to keep a guy from dyin of heat stroke.
It wasn't long before I had my shirt off, along with most people there.
hehe, you can always find good things within the bad, if u know what
I'm sayin :p

Anyway, I sat down in the back to take a rest and 3 guys from Oklahoma
invited me over into their circle and we talked for a bit. They were UM
students from OK, who had gone back home, but had come back to Ypsi
for the party. Good move on their part. After relaxing for w while and
diggin Traxx's set, Eric Haupt came on.

Holy shit!! I'm starting to understand how people can keep on dancing
all night, even when they're not hopped up on goof balls. It was
amazing to stand and watch him go crazy back there, while we all went
crazy in front of him. I couldnt stay for his whole set however 'cause
I'm a big poopie and couldnt maintain the nergy level. 

In short: WOW! I don't know who threw this party. I'm new to the area
so I don't know the various local promoters, but on the way out the door
a guy and a girl were there to thank you for coming and bid u a safe trip
home. What a nice touch, not to mention a great way to check for fucked up
people or people too tired to really be travelling. CLass...

Highlights of the evening:
- The dude in the wheel chair with the HUUUUUGE afro wig groovin as hard
as any of us in front of one the speakers. 

- Traxx mixing in "I have a dream" speach by MLK, with some extremely groovy
tracks. The whole house was screaming and cheering. I'd donate my left nut
to have a copy of that!

- Vibe like I've never felt before. Maybe I'm just beginning to really tune
into the vibe, or maybe it was the happiest party I have ever been too.
But I had a grin tatooed on my face all night, and anyone I looked at while
I was dancin, grinned back at me. I really don't like living in detroit,
but I think the music and the scene will save my sanity :D

Ed/Cuisinart  (pooped Poopie)

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ed sed:

- Traxx mixing in "I have a dream" speach by MLK, with some extremely groovy
tracks. The whole house was screaming and cheering. I'd donate my left nut
to have a copy of that!


YET ANOTHER SONG ID REQUEST.....

i've heard boo williams start his set several times with this track, 
anyone have a ID on it?

dylan
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the revolution will NOT be telelvised....

a special invite to the mw-raves list residents...
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         Anybody else feel euphoric @cocoon last nite?
    Dancing outside in the rain in front of the speakers with some cool-ass
people who 
    didnt give a phuck about the mud or wetness factor at a dopeass party
lifted
    my spirits. Just when scene looks so shitty and repititious you wanna
give up--something cool ass like this party comes along & gives me hope
again. 
      Big aliens on balloons watching us, plenty o'sound, N2O, smiles, I love
it!                                       thanx for this par-T  Chi.
    (thanx 4 the boomers Jay) 
             
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support the tekrevolution
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S.P.   sorry about misleading subject..... I only know 92 ....       

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I have just somewhat recovered from what was an incredible night.  I would have
to agree with Ed that it was an incredible show.  It was put on by Detor
productions and after going this one, anybody that ever has an oppertunity to
goto on of there parties, definitly go.

The space was perfect all except for being so damn hot.  It hurt to breathe it
was so hot.  The chain on my walet rusted and my hands pruned out i was
sweating so bad.  The dj's were incredible, espically local boy Eric Haupt.
Murat threw down some heavy shit too.

Ed gave a pretty good review, i just want to add how good the vibe was at this
party.  After being at a poorboy show last sunday where attitude was thick in
the air, it was a nice relief.  I met so many people there and everyone was
having a good time.  I just hope that future detroit parties can have that good
of a vibe.

Oh Ed did forget one thing, for a $12 party, they had an incredible light show
too.  Detor know how to throw a prefect party.  well i'm off, suckers for you
all.


joff

joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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From: trevor88@lex.infi.net (trevor lamont)
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>
>- Traxx mixing in "I have a dream" speach by MLK, with some extremely groovy
>tracks. The whole house was screaming and cheering. I'd donate my left nut
>to have a copy of that!

Traxx got that MLK from me and it took me years to find it.  we traded some
records for it.  to this day I regret giving it to him.  I WANT TO USE IT
AGAIN!!!!!!!


 Peace and Love

                       trevor lamont

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 For bookings call 1-800-619-9296 or email trevor88@lex.infi.net

 House is a feeling!!!     I love that feeling!!!     It's for love!!!
\o_  (o    o   o>    o   o   <o)  o)           <o>  o      o        o    o
 |    |\  (|\  <\   <|) <\\   /  <|  <e\  >o/   /  <\  o>  X  \o]  /]  //>
< \  / >   >\    >\ />   />  />   >\  >\  >\   <\   |  />> <>  X    /> X
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>ed sed:
>
>- Traxx mixing in "I have a dream" speach by MLK, with some extremely groovy
>tracks. The whole house was screaming and cheering. I'd donate my left nut
>to have a copy of that!
>
>
>YET ANOTHER SONG ID REQUEST.....
>
>i've heard boo williams start his set several times with this track,
>anyone have a ID on it?
>
>dylan
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "whose truth? in which context? modified in which way?" -Zenzunni Saying.

This is the recording of the actual speech.  Traxx got it from me.  The
speech is an accapella and he mixed it over something.


 Peace and Love

                       trevor lamont

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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\o_  (o    o   o>    o   o   <o)  o)           <o>  o      o        o    o
 |    |\  (|\  <\   <|) <\\   /  <|  <e\  >o/   /  <\  o>  X  \o]  /]  //>
< \  / >   >\    >\ />   />  />   >\  >\  >\   <\   |  />> <>  X    /> X
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  2 17:04:15 1996
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what up to my home town Chicago...
check it...

**BEATBOX....LIVE**

Sillicon of Vmax records bustin out with tha real audio...

www.beatbox.com

peace<--->out.

@   @
  *
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i think this might be in a song too, other than ppl like traxx who just
play the speech...feelgood plays it on "fever time to get ill volume 3" and
it seems that i've heard the speech in that same track other times...

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
**************************************************************************
"curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
                                              -falling forward
**************************************************************************



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Bluerazzberry wrote: 
>
>
>Am i the only one here that is so partied out from Even Further'96
>that im not even going to a really phat phat phat party in his/her own 
town
>with a really *PHAT* *PHAT* dj lineup AND really nice people?  
>ANd not even going to a party the next weekend and the next weekend im
>so partied out?  
> 
>Who else is partied out from further? :) 
>Bluerazz/Kevin

    PARTIED OUT???  Why there is no such thing *grin*.  Actually I'm 
still beeming from EF and when i went to Chrysalis and Cocoon this Fri 
an' Sat in Chicago(area) i carried that shine with me, let it flow on 
to others, and received something unlike i have ever felt in Chicago 
before...L O V E. One more week and I'll be an official Chi Resident.  
What a welcome!!

Jessica...madison/tinkaLIFT
butta@ix.netcom.com

>bluerazz@wsp1.wspice.com
>
>
>


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On Sun, 2 Jun 1996 BassMuzik@aol.com wrote:

>          Anybody else feel euphoric @cocoon last nite?
>       Big aliens on balloons watching us, plenty o'sound, N2O, smiles, I love
> it!                                       thanx for this par-T  Chi.

yup, Cocoon rocked! But the main room was so damn hot it wa shard to stay
there very long if you wore jeans to the party instead of shorts. this is
always a problem at the parties I go to, I don't think it would be too
hard to get some sort of decent ventilation going...


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LIVE from the beatbox...

Absrtak from Vmax Records...
bringing you the hard techno sounds...

keep checkin it:

www.beatbox.com

4 the updates and wavez

--->out<---

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>LIVE from the beatbox...
>Absrtak from Vmax Records...
>bringing you the hard techno sounds...

Yea lovely...it keeps dying out even over a T1 cuz theres too many people
on there...great...

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hey mw-ravers,

although my current home for cybercommunications is ne-raves, i just
graduated from school and a job is taking me to columbus, oh...

i was wondering if anyone could suggest some parts of the city where i
might want to live...y'know, young folks, full of fun and frolic, that sort
of thing :)

thanks,
speedy






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Has anyone ever heard it mixed with "Plastic Dreams"....?
I have a Dmitri tape with that on it and he's mixin' and scratchin' like mad!!

----------
From: 	mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com on behalf of trevor lamont
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>
>- Traxx mixing in "I have a dream" speach by MLK, with some extremely groovy
>tracks. The whole house was screaming and cheering. I'd donate my left nut
>to have a copy of that!

Traxx got that MLK from me and it took me years to find it.  we traded some
records for it.  to this day I regret giving it to him.  I WANT TO USE IT
AGAIN!!!!!!!


 Peace and Love

                       trevor lamont

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~
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~


 




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> 
> Has anyone ever heard it mixed with "Plastic Dreams"....?
> I have a Dmitri tape with that on it and he's mixin' and scratchin' like mad!!
> 

*sigh*  i miss that song.  that was my first "rave" song.  who wants to
sing it with me, come on ppl!

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I got this in my e-box this morning. 

I think it is a good way describe it. Any thoughts or comments ?

French e

ps : to the author...good job


                             WHAT IS "VIBE"?

	It isn't the droning pulse of the bass bin.  You can't find it
   in a drug.  It isn't made by the ultimate location.  It isn't four inch
   platform Adidas.  And big pants arn't it either.  You can have the
   coolest backpack, the most blowpops, the neastest stickers, and the 
   most body piercings and still be miles away from obtaining the ultimate,
   the holy grail of raving: Vibe.

	We are the only generation to live our entire lives without trust.
   We have no belief; no faith.  We are the first wave of young people
   to know the full extent of world government corruption.  The president 
   of the United States in no longer a hero to our children.  Police 
   officers inspire fear in anyone who is not rich, white or straight.
   20 years ago we still believed cops were working to protect us, not
   beat us like inobiediant pets in the streets.  But what we must real-
   ize, as people is that though the road of the jaded and cynical is
   a well plowed and seemingly logical one, we as the next, the most vital
   generation must firmly plant our feet in the soil of the new path and
   become searchers for what is true.  You will be questioned by parents,
   policemen, dictators etc., "Why do you have to be this way?  Why can't
   you be more like me?  Why don't you just grow up?"

	But the answer is simple.  Vibe.  Not just the vibe of the dance
   floor.  The vibe that resides in everything.  The vibe that lives inside
   me and you and everyone you know.  Vibe, because I want to move in and
   feel what's around me and all of us.  Vibe, because I have nothing and
   everything left to believe in.  Because I want to wake up and live in
   every part of my body, from my fingertips, to my toes, to the basin of
   my belly.  Vibe, because in the swarm of people, in the thisk of the 
   moment, I am the music and it is inside of me and I am swimming in it.
   The all-inmortant cosmic Vibe.  Because I am; I believe.  We believe in
               the  ____   ____ ___ _________ ___________ 
                    \   \ /   /|   |\_____   \\_   _____/
                     \   Y   / |   | |   |  _/  |  ___)_
                      \     /  |   | |   |   \  |       \
                       \___/   |___| |_______/ /________/ .






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>ps : to the author...good job

the kidz tht wrote this originally are some of my friends from celina,
ohio...a *really* small town with a disproportionatly large number of party
kidz :)  they had written it on a flyer/handout type thing with their names
and addresses on the back...i had no idea it was going around on the net.
for about the past year i've had it taped inside my planner and a bunch of
ppl have read it and loved it.  i think it's great. :) :)

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
**************************************************************************
"curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
                                              -falling forward
**************************************************************************



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> 
> 	We are the only generation to live our entire lives without trust.
>    We have no belief; no faith.  We are the first wave of young people
>    to know the full extent of world government corruption.

this may be true of our scene in particular but...i don't think it holds 
true for all of "our generation"....and to say we are the first wave etc 
to know the extent of world corruption, well, 1. you assume we really 
know how deep corruption in governament goes, and 2. ummm 
hippies/yippies/etc of the 60's were just protesting for the hell of it?  
i think not... our subculture (rave) like previous ones (hippies) know 
that things are fucked and we are shaped by that realization...but the 
vast majority of people in our age group still are stuck in the "american 
dream"....

  The president 
>    of the United States in no longer a hero to our children.  Police 
>    officers inspire fear in anyone who is not rich, white or straight.
>    20 years ago we still believed cops were working to protect us, not
>    beat us like inobiediant pets in the streets.

maybe white middle class people believevd this but i don't think many 
people who didn't fit into that category, especially around the late 50's 
and onward, ever really had too much trouble seeing that many/most cops 
were by and far basically working out serious aggressions on anyone who 
dissented.  20 years ago cops were tear gassing and beating black 
panthers, hioppies, gays, and so on....

> 	But the answer is simple.  Vibe.  Not just the vibe of the dance
>    floor.  The vibe that resides in everything.  The vibe that lives inside
>    me and you and everyone you know.  Vibe, because I want to move in and
>    feel what's around me and all of us.  Vibe, because I have nothing and
>    everything left to believe in.  Because I want to wake up and live in
>    every part of my body, from my fingertips, to my toes, to the basin of
>    my belly.  Vibe, because in the swarm of people, in the thisk of the 
>    moment, I am the music and it is inside of me and I am swimming in it.
>    The all-inmortant cosmic Vibe.  Because I am; I believe.  We believe in
>                the  ____   ____ ___ _________ ___________ 
>                     \   \ /   /|   |\_____   \\_   _____/
>                      \   Y   / |   | |   |  _/  |  ___)_
>                       \     /  |   | |   |   \  |       \
>                        \___/   |___| |_______/ /________/ .
> 
 yes feel that vibe...ahhhhh....so nice.....oh yes be sure to share that 
vibe on the way home when you get pulled over and oops you forgot that 
your pal left a roach in the ashtray or oops what's that in the glove 
compartment? the acid you decided it was best not to take because you 
weren't feeling the best? i'm sure the officer will be very open to vibe 
then....i know i've said to judge cops after the fact and not to 
generalize but you know and i know that "vibe" won't do jack shit if you 
happen to break the social norms they set up and reinforced with laws...

the solution is much more than vibe...vibe is simply a mindset at the 
beginning of change. it takes action to carry this to a point where the 
benefit will occur.

dylan

 > > > > 

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 "whose truth? in which context? modified in which way?" -Zenzunni Saying.


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20 JULY Saturday                  CHICAGO                303.3

            On Saturday, July 20th, in Chicago Illinois...
  Mushgroove and Incredibeets proudly present another tribute to the...

                            * 3 0 3 . 3 *

              information, and djs to be announced...

                       3 1 2 . 5 0 9 . 6 8 6 9






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Don't forget about JUICE this Friday, June 7th...
17 and older with a PHOTO ID
$10.00
DJs- JOHN ACQUAVIVA, TERRY MULLAN, MICRO, NIGEL RICHARDS
10pm-4am
info and directions: 312-509-5195

address  640 W. Hubbard, in Chicago

and Juice will continue on Friday, June 21st.  Stay tuned here for more info.

Kimm


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dont forget that if you're over 21 and want to get out of the house on a
tuesday night, you can see terry mullan spinning at the smart bar for bass
station, a 1000words venture.

this event has a cover of $3 and if you email me i will see if i can get you
on the guest list. 

what's cool about this is you get to see the guy spin in a really intimate
setting...  people over 21 in the chicago club crowd often dont know about
him, so you get to watch him working out of his element...

smart bar is located in wrigleyville, in the basement of the metro on n
clark.

-dave

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I never saw this party posted on the net so I figured I'd repost it.  I
should be real cool.  Vibe Alive's 5th year anniversary.   Vibe Alive =
Mystic Bill and friends








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29 JUNE Saturday                CHICAGO                 MOONFLOWER

               Vibe Alive's 5th year anniversary...

                     M O O N F L O W E R
             June 29-30th, gates open 6am Sat.

Spacetime Continuum Live         King Britt              Thomas
Spun                             Miles Maeda             Ryan Tapia
Trevor Lamont                    Mumtaz                  Bob
Mindrive                         Astroboy                Gemini
Earth                            Paul Johnson            Mystic Bill
Traxx                            Matty                   Electric Bill
Eric Flash                       Jevon Jackson           Heather
Josh                             Daniel                  Tom
Miles                            Jonah Sharp             Bill
Riverman                         Uno
Tripper Information Systems Live

Moonflower is a 26 hour music and arts festival 40 minutes outside of Chicago,
in a beautiful outdoor setting overlooking the fox river.  Gates will open at
6am Saturday, June 29th.  Music and Activities will begin promptly at noon.

MAIN INFO:  312.604.1676   312.604.1978
NO ONE WILL BE ADMITTED AFTER 9pm SATURDAY NIGHT


 Peace and Love

                       trevor lamont

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 For bookings call 1-800-619-9296 or email trevor88@lex.infi.net

 House is a feeling!!!     I love that feeling!!!     It's for love!!!
\o_  (o    o   o>    o   o   <o)  o)           <o>  o      o        o    o
 |    |\  (|\  <\   <|) <\\   /  <|  <e\  >o/   /  <\  o>  X  \o]  /]  //>
< \  / >   >\    >\ />   />  />   >\  >\  >\   <\   |  />> <>  X    /> X
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


 



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Free Flow is being held in Dayton, Ohio.  Sorry I didn't specify that in my
post.




14 JUNE Friday                  ?                       FREE FLOW

                                  *ASTRO KIDS*

                   presents a small gathering of our people

                              *F R E E    F L O W*

Trevor Lamont
  Lexington, Kentucky
    Erotic World, Soul Foundation

Boris
  Chicago, Illinois
    Erotic World, Relief Records, Contact Records

Mutt
  Lexington, Kentucky
    Zybolistic

plus special guest
keep tune for more info and more D.J.'s

Info - 513-229-8187


 Peace and Love

                       trevor lamont

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 For bookings call 1-800-619-9296 or email trevor88@lex.infi.net

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\o_  (o    o   o>    o   o   <o)  o)           <o>  o      o        o    o
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just a reminder....


friday june 7 1996 in kalamazoo michigan
11:00pm to ????


area 51

djs:

shake
-frictional records (detroit)

claude young (if he can make it here)
-frictional/7th city records (detroit)

vice
-black nation/transmat records (kalamazoo)

d. knox
-sonic mind/cheap/black nation records (kalamazoo)

horsepower
-host of the mechanical pulse-88.9fm WDBM (east lansing)

aaron bennett
-black nation records (kalamazoo)

djreed
-madbeats (chicago/kalamazoo)

and others....


this event is only three dollars!!!!


for more info and directions call the get smart line at (313) 730-2202
or e-mail 99benne4@lab.cc.wmich.edu

other info lines will be posted in a day or two

-----------------------------------------------


aaron bennett
western michigan university/black nation records-kalamazoo
99benne4@lab.cc.wmich.edu

halfway between detroit and chicago....



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun  3 18:01:21 1996
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>Ok so I realize that crash worship isn't exactly a techno group but they are
>still amazing. If you haven't heard of them just go and see them. They will be
>cheap and they will blow your mind. Anyways here are the dates for the
>midwest...
>
>july 10 minneaplos (I know I spelled it wrong), the space
>july 12 chicago, empty bottle

this might be really late, sorry bear with me i couldnt checky my mail for
a week, b/c i was out of town.

didnt RIPE promote the chicago crashworship show last year?(RIPE the ppl
that use to promote parties, but havnt thrown any for a while.)

christian/simple







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here are the names and addresses that appeared on the back of the original
flyer, when it was distributed the "old fashioned way" ;)

"communicate to liberate!"

shaun oien
140 tippecanoe dr
greensburg, pa 15601

nate partin
440 touvelle st
celina, oh 45822

sacha ramirez
315 w warren st
celina, oh 45822

andy sacher
1118 jackson ave
celina, oh 45822


love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
**************************************************************************
"curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
                                              -falling forward
**************************************************************************



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...There aren't any words in Plastic Dreams.

Maybe you're thinking about Funky Guitar...what are the lyrics??

----------
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> 
> Has anyone ever heard it mixed with "Plastic Dreams"....?
> I have a Dmitri tape with that on it and he's mixin' and scratchin' like 
mad!!
> 

*sigh*  i miss that song.  that was my first "rave" song.  who wants to
sing it with me, come on ppl!


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I just got hold of the flier (some 4 ft by 2)...next thing you'll see are 6 ft 
by 3ft posters...what a waste of money and trees ?

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Sent: 	Monday, June 03, 1996 6:58 PM
To: 	mw-raves@hyperreal.com; mo-raves@nicar.org
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I never saw this party posted on the net so I figured I'd repost it.  I
should be real cool.  Vibe Alive's 5th year anniversary.   Vibe Alive =
Mystic Bill and friends

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
29 JUNE Saturday                CHICAGO                 MOONFLOWER

               Vibe Alive's 5th year anniversary...

                     M O O N F L O W E R
             June 29-30th, gates open 6am Sat.

Spacetime Continuum Live         King Britt              Thomas
Spun                             Miles Maeda             Ryan Tapia
Trevor Lamont                    Mumtaz                  Bob
Mindrive                         Astroboy                Gemini
Earth                            Paul Johnson            Mystic Bill
Traxx                            Matty                   Electric Bill
Eric Flash                       Jevon Jackson           Heather
Josh                             Daniel                  Tom
Miles                            Jonah Sharp             Bill
Riverman                         Uno
Tripper Information Systems Live

Moonflower is a 26 hour music and arts festival 40 minutes outside of Chicago,
in a beautiful outdoor setting overlooking the fox river.  Gates will open at
6am Saturday, June 29th.  Music and Activities will begin promptly at noon.

MAIN INFO:  312.604.1676   312.604.1978
NO ONE WILL BE ADMITTED AFTER 9pm SATURDAY NIGHT

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hey mnpls peeps...

     just hope youall support clintion's little thing he's throwing in 
*forgets the name of the space*...well clinton, why don't you just repost 
the info eh?;)

oh yeah email me privately about spinning and all that too...do you still 
need me to?

dylan

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From: Didier Bangudi <dnsimba@internetmci.com>
Subject: Latin Hard House
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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

     I'm having a hard time finding mixtapes that focus on latin house or
salsa. Some mixtapes will have one or two tracks that are like salsa but
I'm looking for things that are mostly or all latin tracks. Does anybody
out there know of any labels that I could order from or any D.J's that have
put out any mixtapes that feature this stuff? Please help me out if you
have any info.                                                             
                                                               Thanks,     
                                                                           
                                        Goose                              
                                                                           
             

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>     I'm having a hard time finding mixtapes that focus on latin house or
>salsa. Some mixtapes will have one or two tracks that are like salsa but
>I'm looking for things that are mostly or all latin tracks. Does anybody
>out there know of any labels that I could order from or any D.J's that have
>put out any mixtapes that feature this stuff? Please help me out if you
>have any info.

um, do you mean *besides* carlos??

otherwise, i would say...try carlos.

"a rikki-tikki!"  :P :P :0

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

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At 09:32 PM 6/3/96 UT, Rochell Heininger <Rochell_H@msn.com> wrote:
>...There aren't any words in Plastic Dreams.
>
>Maybe you're thinking about Funky Guitar...what are the lyrics??

You can sing without words.  (ref: babies, Cocteau Twins, Bobby McFerrin, etc)

"Plastic Dreams" had a small comeback several months ago.  I think the
vinyl was repressed or something.

But it's a pretty easy tune to hum the keyboards, and to tap out the
percussion bits with one's hands - one hand for the constant beat, the
other hand for the shuffle beat.

One might find the cd single in better used music stores.



Andrew (too much time on my hands)
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>hey mnpls peeps...
>
>    just hope youall support clinton's little thing he's throwing in 
>*forgets the name of the space*...well clinton, why don't you just 
>repost 
>the info eh?;)

yeah, sorry all, i thought i posted to the calendar but here it
is again:

BASSCORPS presents "reFRESHed"

Wed.,june 5th
 with dj's:

Wisc
Paul-E-Wog
Chris Sattinger
Gabber Girl

live pa by:
    Professor Earache

8pm-1am
$4 cover
Majestic Ballroom, Cottage Grove, MN--Hwy 61 to Jamaica Ave. exit,
right onto Jamaica, left onto W. Pt. Douglas Rd.

BASSCORPS info: 942-1391


see you all there!
clinton mead


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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

        Yes Carlos is awesome but latin tracks don't really dominate his
sets although he does put in alot of real cool salsa. I'm in search of
mixtapes where the majority of the mixes feature the cool latin stuff  that
Carlos usually just uses as a side dish.        Thanx Tho,                 
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                 Peace Out,                                
                                                                           
       Goose

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> Date: Thu, 30 May 96 12:58:03 +0100
> From: Ben Malbon <bmalbon@geography.ucl.ac.uk>
> Subject: All About E and stuff
> 
> I'm not sure whether anyone else got the chance to get down to the Guardian
> debate yesterday on E, but I did, so I thought I'd post up a few of the
> arguments that took place.  I've got no intention (or desire) to start a 
> new drugs thread - this is for interest only.
> 
> The Panellists
> **************
> 
> Boy George 
> 
> Dr Chris Milroy (Forensic Pathologist)
> 
> Natalie Melton (Lifeline, Safer Dancing Campaign)
> 
> Paul Flynn MP (Labour, Newport West) - pro-leglisation of E, etc
> 
> Caroline Coon (founded Release 1967) - campaigns for end of prohibition
> 
> David Arnold (Director of HEA publicity campaign)
> 
> Jez Nelson (chair) - one time DJ, works for tommorrow's world and stuff
> 
> ___________________________________________________
> 
> Main Arguments
> **************
> 
> 1. IS E DANGEROUS?
>    --------------
> Chris produced evidence suggesting that in the case of the 7 ecstasy 
> related deaths he had personally dealt with (ie. cut em up), I think he said
> 5 were due to overheating (heatstroke) and one was due to over-drinking
> of water (14 litres!!).
> 
> He said he thought it was dangerous, but then again no more dangerous than
> alcohol or speed or whatever (in fact much less so statistically)
> 
> Paul quoted some figures from the Govt. which suggested that there had been
> 34 recorded deaths with "an ecstasy aspect" to them since 1991.  That's an
> average of 7 a year.  That compares to 7 PER HOUR for alcohol related deaths.
> (make your own mind up).               **********
> 
> Boy George (whilst stressing continually how he no longer did drugs) made it
> quite plain that drugs could (and in fact did) fuck you up.  He was quite 
> honest about it, stressing that for some people it was cool, for others it
> lead to serious emotional and mental problems, and possible physical damage.
> 
> Caroline came over with some pretty hippi-ish wibble about total legalisation
> and seemed to slightly miss the point, which was about young people trying to
> figure out in their minds every Saturday whether they were going to get fucked
> up by it.
> 
> 
> 2. DO WE NEED MORE INFORMATION OR IS IT AN EXCUSE?
>    _______________________________________________
> 
> This was a crucial element of the discussion and wasn't resolved really.
> 
> People in the audience (which, incidentally, during a show of hands exhibited
> about a 70% rate of having done E) suggested that they wanted more information
> about whether E was harmful or not.
> 
> David Arnold replied that his agency were trying to respond to that need with
> their new campaign "Sorted" - he guessed it cost about #1 million per annum
> for the E campaign alone.  He was roundly slagged by other members of the
> audience for being alarmist and boring - harsh I thought.  I mean, what do you
> expect the fucking government to say??
> 
> Natalie said that Lifeline targeted the users (rather than ALL young people
> which is what the HEA targeted) in their campaigns, and said she felt more
> able to "tell the truth" as they were independent and so on.  She made alot of
> sense and said that they were trying to get as much PRACTICAL info to the
> clubbers on-site so that they were in the best possible position to make the
> decision themselves.
> 
> Boy George was pretty damning of people who used the excuse that they "needed
> more info" to carry on taking the drug.  he said that people knew it could be
> risky (not least cos they never quite knew what they were getting) and that
> that was as simple as that - finito.  To just be basically waiting for someone
> apparently in "authority" to tell you that in fact E was "safe" was a total
> cop out from taking responsibility for yourself.
> 
> Caroline wibbled on again about the Govt being dreadful and we needed to think
> about what kind of society we wanted - repression or freedom. (yeah, right
> Caroline, that's fucking practical).
> 
> Chris added that he thought good quality, well researched info might help save
> lives that might be needlessly wasted otherwise.  
> 
> 3. WHY DO PEOPLE TAKE ECSTASY?
>    __________________________
> 
> This was an interesting point.  It was opened up to the floor and people
> chucked in a few points about their own personal experiences.  All the usual
> ones came out - empathy, warmth, stamina, escape, release, fun, happy etc etc.
> 
> The panelists found it hard to disagree with this.  
> 
> But an understanding of this was seen to be vital to trying to work out some
> kind of policy on E from the government (other than we want to nick you) and
> from the drugs awareness type people - ie. help us to speak your language.
> David Arnold made the valid point that the new HEA campaign also mentions the 
> (or at least some of the) good sides of E.  That's a start I guess.
> 
> A few of the comments from the floor were superb, very eloquent and at least
> as hard hitting as anything that cam from the panel all night.
> 
> 
> 
> That's about all there was time for - we were kicked out of the cinema as
> there was a showing of the Muppets or something.
> 
> Overall the debates seemed to revolve around a linked set of questions:
> 
>         1. is E dangerous?  if so, how dangerous?
> 
>         2. Is it any more dangerous than other, legal, substances?
> 
>         3. If it isn't, why not legalise it?
> 
>         4. If not legalise it, why not? (cue paranoia)
> 
>         5. By legalising it, we would:
> 
>                 - ensure quality and control
>                 - raise revenue (like we do when we buy our fags)
>                 - save lives
>                 - lessen criminal proceeds
> 
> And what the fuck's wrong with getting high anyway? (man ....)
> 
> 


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Subject: what is "VIBE" ?   i for got credit..
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Yeah thanks, i forgot to give credit to "Communicate to liberate" when
i typed it up and put it over the net..  I picked this handout up at
a party i went to in Ft. Wayne indiana last summer.  There were a couple of
other hand out's that by Communicate to liberate that i picked up, and
i must say that these kids know what it's all about.  I've read them soo 
many times..  It has lots of truth to it, and i just wanted to share it 
with all of you..  thank's to the author..
 


                             WHAT IS "VIBE"?

	It isn't the droning pulse of the bass bin.  You can't find it
   in a drug.  It isn't made by the ultimate location.  It isn't four inch
   platform Adidas.  And big pants arn't it either.  You can have the
   coolest backpack, the most blowpops, the neastest stickers, and the 
   most body piercings and still be miles away from obtaining the ultimate,
   the holy grail of raving: Vibe.

	We are the only generation to live our entire lives without trust.
   We have no belief; no faith.  We are the first wave of young people
   to know the full extent of world government corruption.  The president 
   of the United States in on longer a hero to our children.  Police 
   officers inspire fear in anyone who is not rich, white or straight.
   20 years ago we still believed cops were working to protect us, not
   beat us like inobiediant pets in the streets.  But what we must real-
   ize, as people is that though the road of the jaded and cynical is
   a well plowed and seemingly logical one, we as the next, the most vital
   generation must firmly plant our feet in the soil of the new path and
   become searchers for what is true.  You will be questioned by parents,
   policemen, dictators etc., "Why do you have to be this way?  Why can't
   you be more like me?  Why don't you just grow up?"

	But the answer is simple.  Vibe.  Not just the vibe of the dance
   floor.  The vibe that resides in everything.  The vibe that lives inside
   me and you and everyone you know.  Vibe, because I want to move in and
   feel what's around me and all of us.  Vibe, because I have nothing and
   everything left to believe in.  Because I want to wake up and live in
   every part of my body, from my fingertips, to my toes, to the basin of
   my belly.  Vibe, because in the swarm of people, in the thisk of the 
   moment, I am the music and it is inside of me and I am swimming in it.
   The all-inmortant cosmic Vibe.  Because I am; I believe.  We believe in
               the  ____   ____ ___ _________ ___________ 
                    \   \ /   /|   |\_____   \\_   _____/
                     \   Y   / |   | |   |  _/  |  ___)_
                      \     /  |   | |   |   \  |       \
                       \___/   |___| |_______/ /________/ .





 Thanks too..  frenche, cos' i for got to send it here aswell, latenightg
at werk has left me absent minded.. :P

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I have the original 12" of this classic anthem.  Rebecca responded too about 
singing w/out words.  That's humming to me!!  Anyway, great tune none the less 
and amazingly mixed by Dmitri w/the MLK speech.

----------
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To: 	mw-raves@hyperreal.com
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At 09:32 PM 6/3/96 UT, Rochell Heininger <Rochell_H@msn.com> wrote:
>...There aren't any words in Plastic Dreams.
>
>Maybe you're thinking about Funky Guitar...what are the lyrics??

You can sing without words.  (ref: babies, Cocteau Twins, Bobby McFerrin, etc)

"Plastic Dreams" had a small comeback several months ago.  I think the
vinyl was repressed or something.

But it's a pretty easy tune to hum the keyboards, and to tap out the
percussion bits with one's hands - one hand for the constant beat, the
other hand for the shuffle beat.

One might find the cd single in better used music stores.



Andrew (too much time on my hands)
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Subject:      plastic dreams
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The first time I heard this track was at The Icon in Buffalo, NY. It was so
fucking hot! There was a dj there who was amazing, and would set this groove
that would last forever. And he'd always spin JayDee somewhere during his
shift. Now that I do my own techno/gothic shift here at ND's radio station,
plastic dreams gets airplay. Granted it's old, and I've heard the bassline/
keyboard lines sampled in terrible Top-40 tracks. But I still love it, and
have people calling me asking, "Man, that is awesome! Play it some more!"
One diehard rocker called me and said, "Dude, it sounds like the Doors! I
gotta get this thing!" All this leads me to believe that techno classics are
certainly NOT dead. For a scene that thrives on the new, the current and on
trends, it's great to have a few gems lying around. :-)

Gotta love the music!

Peace,
John-Andrew Murphy
Coordinator
International Studies Resource Center
University of Notre Dame

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>                              WHAT IS "VIBE"?
> 
> 	It isn't the droning pulse of the bass bin.  You can't find it
>    in a drug.  It isn't made by the ultimate location.  It isn't four inch
>    platform Adidas.  And big pants arn't it either.  You can have the
>    coolest backpack, the most blowpops, the neastest stickers, and the 
>    most body piercings and still be miles away from obtaining the ultimate,
>    the holy grail of raving: Vibe.

ok this i pretty much believe.  thank GOD someone said this!

> 	We are the only generation to live our entire lives without trust.
>    We have no belief; no faith.  

here's where i begin to disagree.  i believe in myself.  i believe in my
friends.  i believe in the music.  i believe in the creativity and
vitality of the human spirit.  i also have some spiritual beliefs which i
don't care to discuss here.  but i ain't faithless!  (i know, that's not 
the point...but read on)

>    We are the first wave of young people
>    to know the full extent of world government corruption.  The president 
>    of the United States in on longer a hero to our children.  Police 
>    officers inspire fear in anyone who is not rich, white or straight.
>    20 years ago we still believed cops were working to protect us, not
>    beat us like inobiediant pets in the streets.  

ok, this might be true, but it's unfair, as we've already discussed.  
there _are_ police officers who wear power like a bad chiffon hat, but most 
of them are just people who make sense of the world on different terms 
than a bunch of kids who like to stay up all night dancing and being 
things other than what most of society wants us to become.  some of them 
even care about us, whether we like the way they express it or not.

and don't blame the cops for being racist and sexist, et al...blame the
people who put them there, blame us for not trying harder to get our
message across!  don't just slap some amorphous stream-of-consciousness
writing about "the vibe" on a piece of paper without being a BIT MORE
SPECIFIC! 

>    But what we must real-
>    ize, as people is that though the road of the jaded and cynical is
>    a well plowed and seemingly logical one, we as the next, the most vital
>    generation must firmly plant our feet in the soil of the new path and
>    become searchers for what is true.  You will be questioned by parents,
>    policemen, dictators etc., "Why do you have to be this way?  Why can't
>    you be more like me?  Why don't you just grow up?"

ok, so what's "true"?  what's "grown up?"  again, no specifics.  this can
mean ANYTHING!@!  which, unfortunately, leaves us just where we were
before. if "grown up" means being responsible for your own well-being, for
example, well i guess we don't want that, now do we... 

> 	But the answer is simple.  Vibe.  Not just the vibe of the dance
>    floor.  The vibe that resides in everything.  The vibe that lives inside
>    me and you and everyone you know.  Vibe, because I want to move in and
>    feel what's around me and all of us.  Vibe, because I have nothing and
>    everything left to believe in.  Because I want to wake up and live in
>    every part of my body, from my fingertips, to my toes, to the basin of
>    my belly.  Vibe, because in the swarm of people, in the thisk of the 
>    moment, I am the music and it is inside of me and I am swimming in it.
>    The all-inmortant cosmic Vibe.  Because I am; I believe.  We believe in
>                the  ____   ____ ___ _________ ___________ 
>                     \   \ /   /|   |\_____   \\_   _____/
>                      \   Y   / |   | |   |  _/  |  ___)_
>                       \     /  |   | |   |   \  |       \
>                        \___/   |___| |_______/ /________/ .

god i hope i'm not *too* cynical, but this seems like such hippyshit to
me. i admire the intentions behind putting this out, don't get me wrong
there.  

the vibe, or whatever it is (and i DO agree this energy exists although i 
don't necessarily call it "vibe"), is a very powerful and wonderful 
thing.  but it deserves much more than this.  

but what bugs me is that that last paragraph could easily be read
by someone as encouragement to take tons of drugs to get to that blissful
state, even though i think it's meant to convey a deep sense of spiritual
and emotional awareness (which is awesome of course), not just a cheap
high.  but i bet most people will read that and say: "yah, gimme some E!!! 
i want to feel like THAT!" 

not to condemn drugs an shit...but i believe this state of bliss is 
achievable without them.  drugs can be a crucual tool for getting there, 
but drugs or no drugs, once you come back down you have to use that energy 
and channel it into ACTION.

which is one thing this handout does not do: specify action.

okay, here's some dangerous territory: i'd feel just as uncomfortable with
people handing out political leaflets that state certain dogmas and
beliefs...i'd want to see some backup, some proof, etc, before taking it
seriously.  and that's almost impossible.  i'd also feel uncomfortable
because i can imagine a lot of people just falling for it blindly without
much thought.  that's how cults start...that's how nazi germany
happened...should i go on? 

but on the other hand, it's just as dangerous to hand something like this 
out _without_ a political agenda.  i'd almost be more comfortable knowing 
there was a specific goal behind the message, instead of this watery, 
amorphous double-talk.  what the hell does it mean?  i guess it's cool 
that it's sort of up to us to complete the message, but man we can do 
better than that.  there are things _worth_ believing in and standing up 
for, but this handout stands behind none of it.

and you can't have it both ways: there's the negativity spread about cops 
and the government but no clues as to how to REALLY make a difference.  
what a tease!

if you're going to tell me the government sucks and we have to rise beyond
it, don't just tell me "I am the music and it is inside of me and I am
swimming in it."  that's NOT very useful.  why don't you tell me something
more practical like a list of "strategies toward the demolishment of the
capitalist system," or "strategies for making cops realize we are people
too"?  now THAT i would applaud...no matter what your political bias.

sorry to the writers and whatnot, i bet you thought "think" was too
serious and patronizing (it probably was).  i hope you take this as a
challenge to write something which does stand for something more
"concrete," instead of lapsing into this "i'm ok, you're ok" kind of
pseudo-psychology. thanks for trying, but as i say, it's too amorphous and
won't really do anyone any good.  altho i can tell you want to make a
difference, and that means a lot to me personally. 

also, please keep in mind that i am a harsh, critical, and judgemental
virgo and just want to see things constantly reach higher.  please don't
take this *too* seriously... 
++ 
e d

coil.com/~eluna/ele_mental.html

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I'm going to be buying a couple tables and a mixer sometime soon.  I'm
probably going to get 1200's,  a friend has them and they seem pretty good.  I
haven't decided on the mixer yet.  If anyone has any advice on anything please
drop me a line.

Also does anyone know a good place to buy the shit from.  I'm from Lansing and
am willing to goto anywhere from chicago, detroit to toledo for a good deal.
I'm even willing to do mail order.  I usually like buying from local businesses
but i am very strapped for money and can't even afford this but i need them.

Anyways if anyone can help, please drop me a line.

joff

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Before I throw in my disagreements, I want to say that I really enjoyed
reading this.  Good job!!!

>    We are the first wave of young people
>    to know the full extent of world government corruption.  The president
>    of the United States in on longer a hero to our children.  Police
>    officers inspire fear in anyone who is not rich, white or straight.
>    20 years ago we still believed cops were working to protect us, not
>    beat us like inobiediant pets in the streets.

Hmmm...Then what was the book 1984 all about?  We're not the first ones
who don't know that the government is corrupt as all hell.

Way back in the Vietnam days, ppl (black/white/etc) protested the government
and the war.  Police officers threw teargas into crowds...That was about
20 years ago.

---ben / Cylert

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(St Louis, first weekend of july)

> it is being put on by a crew including Leigh (Devilgirl)

Connect Records, Vybrations, and one other crew (Can't remember offhand)...
Connect Records first release is due out the week before the party.  It
is being done by Richard Divine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  For all those who bought
the latest Six-Sixty-Six release by him, you know that guy is the shit!

> It is two days and that's what I know off hand.

Bzzzzt...3 days.  (can you say, "I'm not going to family reunion!")

Main flyer is due out on friday.  I'm bringing a shitload of them with
me to ohio to be flyered in dayton, cinci, and columbus.  So keep an
eye out for them.

---ben / Cylert

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> >- Traxx mixing in "I have a dream" speach by MLK, with someextremelygroovy
> >tracks. The whole house was screaming and cheering. I'd donate my left nut
> >to have a copy of that!

Get ready to donate, because I have a copy of it that I'm willing to part
with.

> >YET ANOTHER SONG ID REQUEST.....
> >
> >i've heard boo williams start his set several times with this track,
> >anyone have a ID on it?

Ok, here goes...I have this track, and it's not all that...I believe ed
is the highest bidder with the donation of his left nut.

It's on     ---Power Music
It's by     ---Dj Duke (If I remember correctly)
It's called ---10 minutes of dreams

There are other versions of this song available, as well as just the
speech which I also have on vinyl (but can't part with because it belongs
to my dad!!!)...

---ben / Cylert

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> >I saw this filer in the mall while in st.louis last.  that and the ever
> >ominous fallin angel flier.  on the "5" flier (july 3-5), saw 3 seperate
> >line ups, one main room with the promoters and some chicago djs and
> >trevor.  the other rooms were mainly miwacky and st.louis djs.  I think
> >this one is supposed to be "hard edged" or something.  we'll see how that
> >works in st.louis.

WELL...The super final flyer for this party is due out on friday.  There
is more to be added to the lineup, such as Jedidiah & many other kick ass
djs.  The final flyer is 8x10, so it's a keeper!

About St Louis & "hard edged"...Devil Girl spun gabber at hyperspace,
and even the drag queens were dancing and going nuts.  This city is
ready for it.

> >oh yeah, cylert is supposed to be spinning.  he's the shit.

Personally, I think he sucks.

> Me and Goodwill will be spinning so you know someone is going to be bangin'
> house. :)  And I will BANG house!!!!!!!
>                        trevor lamont

I'm gonna be right there in front of the bassbin groovin' my little white
tookus as best as I can!

---ben / Cylert


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techo/electronic based artists looking for management, send demo/mix tapes to:

Hard Head Productions and Management
attn:  Brian
180 Varick St.  8th Floor
New York, NY  10014


DJ's who need a NYC booking agent may send to the same address.  Keep in mind
though, you wont make much money spinning in NYC until you make a name for
yourself in Detroit/the midwest.

P L U R

BL

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How the heck can you be partied out???  That was just the beginning of a 
beautiful LONG-ASS summer of music, people, and dancing!!!  MAn I go to 
parties every weekend and every one is fun!!!  Keep on dancing and just 
get some sleep --you'll be ready to go back out there in no time!  

*smile*
*ArasarA*



On Thu, 30 May 1996, Kevin Koch wrote:

> 
> Am i the only one here that is so partied out from Even Further'96
> that im not even going to a really phat phat phat party in his/her own town
> with a really *PHAT* *PHAT* dj lineup AND really nice people?  
> ANd not even going to a party the next weekend and the next weekend im
> so partied out?  
>  
> Who else is partied out from further? :) 
> Bluerazz/Kevin
> 
> bluerazz@wsp1.wspice.com
> 
> 
> 

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> (can you say, "I'm not going to family reunion!")

um, no.

and i don't think anyone that went to the first family affair can say it,
either.  :)

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
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okay, this is *IMPORTANT* because 7.20 is my *birthday* and i have to have
***FUN*** that nite.  so the party is going on in louisville...evidently
sans "one big name west coast dj and one very well known live act from the
uk" or whatever...but still promises a fun evening...

but i picked up MOO, a local music rag today...there is an ad in there for
the metro in chicago which reads:

saturday july 20 showtime 10pm, 18 and over
DUBTRIBE SOUND SYSTEM
SOUND PATROL with derrick carter
FREQUENCY LAB VS. SQUISHY
TRANQUILITY BASS
7 KINGS
DJ LITTLE GREEN MATT

!! dubtribe is playing a concert venue?  so this isn't really a
party...more of a concert eh?  and is that derrick carter performing or a
live PA?  anyone know how much this is?  i love dubtribe but i dunno if i
wanna see em outside a party...hmm.  what do you peeps over in chicago
think??  isn't someone doing a party that nite too?  there'd be something
to do after the show at least then...hmmmmmmmmm.

please advise.

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

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hey everyone...
well, i think i have my summer planned, and it looks like i will be at
dayton on the 15th for charm, then family reunion for the 4th of july
(BEN, you shit, take me to that party in st. louis and i'll skip the 4th,
maybe), and then IO3 if there is one. 3 parties, 3 months, i'm keeping in
tune with my schedule. :)
ps....ben has a cute tuchus. :)
see ya later...
-becca


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In american literature, a movement towards post modernism begun in the
post ww1 and post ww2 eras.  it most depressing realizations and
prophecies were evolved and in place when the movements of the 1960's
(civil rights movent, vietnam war, etc.) caused a major social havok which
has changed the foundations in we thrive on today. Thus, 1984 was so
apocalyptic in nature.  
Saying that one would not have feared the police 20 years ago (the good
old days) is forgettting about the establishment of the Miranda Rights
about 30 years ago to take some of the element of fear away from the
police.  A person now has certain rights not to protect them from having  
the hell beaten out of them if they didnt give the cops exactly what they
wanted. Fear sucks, so brighten up and play the game smartly.  (That
doesnt mean play along either.)

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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>okay, this is *IMPORTANT* because 7.20 is my *birthday* and i have to have
>***FUN*** that nite.  so the party is going on in louisville...evidently
>sans "one big name west coast dj and one very well known live act from the
>uk" or whatever...but still promises a fun evening...

this is going on in Wisconsin the night of July 20th with a free pre-party
the night before


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> >I saw this filer in the mall while in st.louis last.  that and the ever
> >ominous fallin angel flier.  on the "5" flier (july 3-5), saw 3 seperate
> >line ups, one main room with the promoters and some chicago djs and
> >trevor.  the other rooms were mainly miwacky and st.louis djs.  I think
> >this one is supposed to be "hard edged" or something.  we'll see how that
> >works in st.louis.

WELL...The super final flyer for this party is due out on friday.  There
is more to be added to the lineup, such as Jedidiah & many other kick ass
djs.  The final flyer is 8x10, so it's a keeper!

About St Louis & "hard edged"...Devil Girl spun gabber at hyperspace,
and even the drag queens were dancing and going nuts.  This city is
ready for it.

> >oh yeah, cylert is supposed to be spinning.  he's the shit.

Personally, I think he sucks.

> Me and Goodwill will be spinning so you know someone is going to be bangin'
> house. :)  And I will BANG house!!!!!!!
>                        trevor lamont

I'm gonna be right there in front of the bassbin groovin' my little white
tookus as best as I can!

---ben / Cylert



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Is anybody going to Believe (friday, rockford) or Cloud 99 (saturday,
"chicago")? Neither of them sound too amazingly appealing but I'm a
burgeoning DJ who owns ONE record with a beat, so I gotta get up there and
do some shopping, looking for something else interesting to do. Anybody
want to suggest something / hang out / have dinner / show me around? (I'm
not from Chi-town area).

If so drop me a note or gimme a call...

And wish me luck! Armed with my ONE record, a couple I'm borrowing, and
some weird shit from the thrift store, I'm off to spin for my first time
in public at a house party on Thursday! Of course you're all invited but I
don't think it will be anything special and people don't really just
"happen through" Champaign, IL too much.

But dammit I'm excited!

see ya all later...
...Gage

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>and is that derrick carter performing or a
>live PA?

if you haven't figgered it yerself...that's supposed to read "spinning or a
live PA"

pardon my lack of proofreading :P

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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One of my buddies up in Ottawa just forwarded this to me - some of it is 
"Ottawa-specific" but it's still generally true and funny... 

Peace...

	Tom

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---------- Forwarded message ----------

>> How to Spot a Raver
>> 
>> - Ravers can perfectly understand and have amazing conversations with
>> anyone under the age of ten.
>> 
>> - Ravers know where all the best toy stores are.
>> 
>> - Ravers get the most mileage out of their shoes. The toes and heels always
>> curl up because they're so worn down.
>> 
>> - Ravers always wish the dj would spin that OC Transpo track that they keep
>> hearing on the bus ride home.
>> 
>> - Ravers are the only people who don't have their age calculated in months,
>> yet still wear and use pacifiers.
>> 
>> - Ravers always consider every new place they go to as a possible location
>> for a party.
>> 
>> - Ravers hug EVERYONE.
>> 
>> - Ravers can DANCE.
>> 
>> - Ravers can be found dancing everywhere EXCEPT the main dance floor.
>> 
>> - Ravers understand the art of the bathroom conversation.
>> 
>> - Ravers choose their clothes by texture, colour, and size.
>> 
>> - Ravers love homemade clothes because they've seen the price tag on a pair
>> of Lithiums.
>> 
>> - Ravers get the most enjoyment out of gino/guito stories.
>> 
>> - Ravers always order water when they go out to clubs.
>> 
>> - Ravers realize that "Evian" spells "naivE" backwards.
>> 
>> - Ravers notice that the doors near the Mackenzie King Bridge have an "e"
>> on the handle.
>> 
>> - Ravers always know the most likely spot to find other ravers within a
>> one-hundred foot radius.
>> 
>> - Ravers don't bother planning to meet their friends ahead of time, their
>> friends are always already there.
>> 
>> - Ravers don't say "Nice shoes, wanna fu@k?"
>> 
>> - Ravers give the best hugs and massages.
>> 
>> - Ravers have a one track mind. It goes "thump thump tweet thump tweet
>> thump".
>> 
>> - Ravers constantly point out the trippy visuals in everyday life.
>> 
>> - Ravers helped Adidas through the "lean" years.
>> 
>> - Ravers never know the name of their favorite tracks.
>> 
>> - Ravers know how to SMILE.
>> 
>> - Ravers always choose "e" on multiple choice questions.
>> 
>> - Ravers are good at playing "guess what he's on".
>> 
>> - Ravers will say "hi" to those people they don't know, yet always see on
>> the bus.
>> 
>> - Ravers can't watch Electric Circus without it being muted.
>> 
>> - Ravers define the style of music they listen to as "good".
>> 
>> - Ravers know what to do with a dead glowstick.


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hahha..i thought that was really funny.

hrrmmm...i am studying for a final tomorrow..so that was a cute little
thing to keep me going.

but i just had one thought. i was thinking about this earlier in the year
when i was sitting by myself in the cafetaria for lunch.

>>> - Ravers will say "hi" to those people they don't know, yet always see on
>>> the bus.

why is it that at a party i can smile at anyone that glances in my
direction--and even start up a conversation with them, but when i am any
where else, i am just too shy to even look at people. hrrmmm..any other
ravers have this problem?

sometimes i wonder if it is true shyness or simply snobbishness. but i wish
i would stop it, and since i thought about it a while ago, i have been
making a conscious effort to be nice to ppl that i dont know--outside of
parties as well as at them.

i think it has something to do with the fact that at parties, no one cares
what stupid things you say or anything like that, but in the cafetaria it
would be much more painful to say some stupid icebreaker to someone and get
a cold look back ....hmph.... oh well..only three more days in the
cafetaria anyways =P


kate O+




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> >> - Ravers know what to do with a dead glowstick.
> 
> 
I dont!!! What do you do with a dead glowstick??? My little brother puts 
'em in the freezer, because he thinks it makes the glow come back. But he 
only gets them at haloween. (he's 12)

BTW, that was a great post.

chris


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On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Chris Ege wrote:

> > >> - Ravers know what to do with a dead glowstick.

> I dont!!! What do you do with a dead glowstick??? My little brother puts 
> 'em in the freezer, because he thinks it makes the glow come back. But he 
> only gets them at haloween. (he's 12)

Hehe... that's ok.  I'm still trying to figure that one out. :)

> BTW, that was a great post.

Thanks... I'm still waiting to find out who the original author is.. 

Tom

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On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 krc@nwu.edu wrote:

> hahha..i thought that was really funny.
> 
> hrrmmm...i am studying for a final tomorrow..so that was a cute little
> thing to keep me going.

I'm glad you liked it.  Some of it was, like I said, Ottawa specific - 
ie. the Mackenzie King Bridge comment... but it was generally true.  Sort 
of like a Top 10 list, I guess.. plus some. :)

> why is it that at a party i can smile at anyone that glances in my
> direction--and even start up a conversation with them, but when i am any
> where else, i am just too shy to even look at people. hrrmmm..any other
> ravers have this problem?

Maybe you know that they people on the other end of that smile won't take 
things the wrong way, or what have you?  It's just a general thing that 
you can do at raves and feel good about.  

> sometimes i wonder if it is true shyness or simply snobbishness. but i wish
> i would stop it, and since i thought about it a while ago, i have been
> making a conscious effort to be nice to ppl that i dont know--outside of
> parties as well as at them.

It's just time to spread the friendlyness outside of a rave.  We're all 
wicked people, us ravers.  It's people like us that need to show everyone 
else that friendly coexistance does exist.

> kate O+

Peace kate!  BTW:  Can you see the moon tonight?  It's huge! 

	Tom


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bmalbon sed:
=================================================================
> Chris produced evidence suggesting that in the case of the 7 ecstasy 
> related deaths he had personally dealt with (ie. cut em up), I think he said
> 5 were due to overheating (heatstroke) and one was due to over-drinking
> of water (14 litres!!).
=================================================================

cut up the corpses or cut the e? (just kidding)

================================================================= 
> He said he thought it was dangerous, but then again no more dangerous than
> alcohol or speed or whatever (in fact much less so statistically)
================================================================= 

hmm could this be becuz alcohol & speed is much more readily 
available than E? (i've heard this lame arguement on alt.rave before)

================================================================= 
> Paul quoted some figures from the Govt. which suggested that there had been
> 34 recorded deaths with "an ecstasy aspect" to them since 1991.  That's an
> average of 7 a year.  That compares to 7 PER HOUR for alcohol related deaths.
> (make your own mind up).               **********
================================================================= 

hmm could this be becuz there are about a billion people that use
alcohol and about 100,000 people that do E (same lame alt.rave arguement,
different statistic).

=================================================================
> Boy George (whilst stressing continually how he no longer did drugs) made it
> quite plain that drugs could (and in fact did) fuck you up.  He was quite 
> honest about it, stressing that for some people it was cool, for others it
> lead to serious emotional and mental problems, and possible physical damage.
================================================================= 

altho frowned upon due to his past "pop status" i find boy george's
view to be the most substantial since he wuz an admitted past drug
user. in retrospect he has had more experience of the long term
effects of drugs (ie. depression, low self-esteem, financial problems,
family related problems, relationship related problems, withdrawal
problems, etc. etc.). alot of users think they know everything there
is to know about the drug. but in reality they have no clue about the
long term effects. 

==================================================================
> Boy George was pretty damning of people who used the excuse that they "needed
> more info" to carry on taking the drug.  he said that people knew it could be
> risky (not least cos they never quite knew what they were getting) and that
> that was as simple as that - finito.  To just be basically waiting for someone
> apparently in "authority" to tell you that in fact E was "safe" was a total
> cop out from taking responsibility for yourself.
================================================================== 

wow, again mr. george wuz right on. just becuz the government 
lables a drug safe or unsafe, has little effect on the users.
look at the warning lables on cigarette packages for instance,
people can give a shit less that cigarettes have been proven
to cause lung cancer. ultimately the decision is yours, whether
u have enuff noodle between yur ears to figure out hmmm not only
is this stuff slowly killing me but hmmm it sure is burning a   
hole in my wallet and damn where duz all my time go?

===================================================================
> Caroline wibbled on again about the Govt being dreadful and we needed to think
> about what kind of society we wanted - repression or freedom. (yeah, right
> Caroline, that's fucking practical).
===================================================================

funny seems pretty pracrical to me.

=================================================================== 
>         3. If it isn't, why not legalise it?
> 
>         4. If not legalise it, why not? (cue paranoia)
> 
>         5. By legalising it, we would:
> 
>                 - ensure quality and control
>                 - raise revenue (like we do when we buy our fags)
>                 - save lives
====================================================================  

like we do when we buy our fags? 

E has an even less chance of becoming legal than marijuana.

sure the quality would go up. but what's so stupid is that
dealers forget, it it's legalized the control would all go 
to the government...dealers would be outta a job.

save lives?    

=====================================================================
> And what the fuck's wrong with getting high anyway? (man ....)
=====================================================================

hell even clinton smoked it. but the bottom line is that it's
still illegal whether we like it or not.

this is coming from an ex-user who knows about the long term effects.
everyone experiments, but the smart learn their way out of it.

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> >> - Ravers know what to do with a dead glowstick.
> 
> 
I dont!!! What do you do with a dead glowstick???

Yeah...I have to agree with Chris... I have absolutely no clue what to do
with dead glow sticks...other than to persistently chew on them and then have
that crap leak all over my mouth and face...  :)  I was under the impression
that once it was dead...it's dead.  
Peace out
Allyson
ps I also second that..it was a pretty awesome post.  :)

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haha - shady... ;D  
All the things you can do with a dead glowstick; there are no limits :D
Cynthia

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> > >> - Ravers know what to do with a dead glowstick.
> > 
> > 
> I dont!!! What do you do with a dead glowstick??? My little brother puts 
> 'em in the freezer, because he thinks it makes the glow come back. But he 
> only gets them at haloween. (he's 12)
> 
> BTW, that was a great post.
> 
> chris
> 
> 

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haha - Kate, three more days in the cafeteria eh?  I have the same 
problem as you, I can't approach people I don't know...if I do, it's 
almost like looking down a cliff, and thinking, "should I jump?" and if I 
decide to, I literally throw myself over....and that's how it feels for 
me to actually approach people..it's scary..I think it's because I don't 
really have much to say...I'm kinda boring..so maybe that has something 
to do with it...hmm...
Cynthia

P.S. I will remain in that damn cafeteria for the rest of my life I think :(


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Anyone going to summer daze in minneapolis this weekend? I'm kinda 
debating it, but I'll most likely be there. What's the deal with the 
ever-increasing ticket prices though? $18 pre-sale! Same for Mac Street 2 
and I believe $15 pre-sale for one-der! First of all, pre-sale tickets 
just seem like a "bad thing" to me. What's the fuckin' point??? I can see 
it for an event lie EF, but these are just regular parties, maybe a 
little bigger than the usual minneapolis parties, but not a lot. Part of 
going to a rave to me is to go into the store right before the event, 
pick up my ticket, see who else is around, and get handed a photocopied 
sheet of paprt with instructions on it.  I don't get the same emotional 
response when I buy my ticket a week in advance and then call some 
info-line and go directly to the event from wherever i'm at. Anyone else 
feel this way or am I being weird?

Anyways, the minneapolis parties this summer don't sound so bad.  There's 
Bubbilicious on the 13th, with Joey Beltram, James Christian, Danny the 
WIldchild and some others. And it's an ecstatic production, so it should 
be well-done. U80 has a party on the 29th, which seems good. Dylan Drazen 
and O'scar confirmed. Some of the people on the pre-flyer won't be there, 
probably because of the money they lost at Critical Mass.  Mac Street 
2... Well, it's not the best lineup but Mac Street I was my first party, 
so I definitely have to be at Mac Street II (does that make any sense?) 
One-der sounds good, with Deadly Budda and Nicky Fingers (hardcore? in 
minneapolis?) And then July 27th, Meltdown... Another Chernobyl Farms/U80 
party. definitely top-notch even though I dont have any idea whos on the 
lineup. So minneapolis might not be party heaven this summer, but I'll 
enjoy myself, I'm sure. I'll have to hit cynesthesia tomorrow to pick up 
all the fliers that're out there.

So back to my original question... who's gonna be at summer daze?

chris


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free house partee...
every tuesday night starting around 10 pm... 
open tables all night...
224 Beal street

anyone wanting more info can email me at Bossen_C@CC.DENison.edu

I just got back from the first one of these events. Brooks Mosher and Action
Jackson spun. A bunch of other people did too... It was pretty fun and pretty
relaxed. If you live in the el area I suggest that you check it out...
If you own rekkids bring them.

Colin

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            ---Enter the House that Bruce Built---
                     6.15.96 brings to you:


                        Enter the Dragon

Featured DJ's:

      Adam Haupt            Dragon Horned House
      DJ Wax Tax-n-Dre      Biting Snake Booty Style
      Hatatomic             Lazy Lizard Live Technique
      Twonz                 Tae Kwon Techno
      Johnny Saco           Drunken Jungle Fist

In the Tai Chi room:

          John Ryan               Jerry the Cat

             Syncronizing Pulse Transmissions

This event will focus on up and coming Detroit artists. MCM enourages you 
to check out and support these talented performers as they puch, kick, 
and chop yo ass into tiny bits of monkey shit like Bruce Lee would, 
Byyyyatch!



-- 
- stevenJ
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Occupied America

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From: AJIA TOWN <atown@siue.edu>
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ok, i'm not sure if this has been posted or not, so i 
thought i'd let y'all know about Alexis' next party...

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl
------------------------------------------------------------------
	That Girl Productions would like to invite you to 
	intertwine amongst family and friends, spanning from
	accross the U.S. and gathering under one unified circle...

	 	********RINGS********

SATURDAY, jUNE 15TH, 1996

Featuring:

Jeff Feller & Taeo
	St. Louis

Dj Release
	Cleveland, OH

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 08:22:20 1996
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I think the address it 234 Beal St.  It's a brick house with Green Shutters and
a broken window by the driveway inwhich a person dancing a little to hard fell
through :)

Just wanted to put up the correct address.  It's a lot of fun and relax.


later....joff




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Even though i was primarely a lurker...  i got disconected  a while 
back.. so im dropping you all this little note to say wassup ..  and im 
back in da place!  my name is john hanson and I am a student at iu in 
beautiful and historic bloomington indiana,    take er easy..

					peace,
						john hanson... 
						
						your
						PaRaNoRmAl activities specialist

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 09:37:33 1996
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why not buy preday tix to a party?  When budgets reach $10-15000, the
majority of promoters would like some of that cash before the party to
help pay for stuff like sound, lights, etc.  Its not just a party when the
budget reaches that high.  And, would you even be interested or as hyped
about a party if it wasnt "all that?"  "All that" costs big bucks, so a
little early return can both chill out the promoter (who sees that some
people are gonna come, even if its just days before the event,) and in
some situations chill out the investors.  
Its just another way to support.  
But I also wouldnt do this myself if I didnt feel it wasnt gonna happen.
Shadey promoters (like that motherfucker that "threw" Higher Ground in
Chicago last spring,) ruin this concept and the scene for all.

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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At 11:30 PM 6/4/96 -0500, Chris Ege wrote:
>
>Anyone going to summer daze in minneapolis this weekend? I'm kinda 
>debating it, but I'll most likely be there. What's the deal with the 
>ever-increasing ticket prices though? $18 pre-sale! Same for Mac Street 2 

I'll be @ summer daze.  :)  I wouldn't miss djRush or Green Velvet for nuthin.

BUT I REALLY WISH GLEN UNDERGROUND WOULD BE THERE.

I'm not going to Mac Street 2 or One-Der ... the flyer for one-der made me a
bit sick (parties being referred to as "SHOWS" really strikes me with that
rock=n=roll thing).  Also, nicky fingers sucked the last 2 times I saw him.
And Deadly Buddha blowz.  I'd like to see jedidiah tho and Dan DC.

If they could just swap boring buddha and nicky fingers with Laurent Ho and
Delta 9 I'd go!

>Anyways, the minneapolis parties this summer don't sound so bad.  There's 
>Bubbilicious on the 13th, with Joey Beltram, James Christian, Danny the 
>WIldchild and some others. And it's an ecstatic production, so it should 
>be well-done. U80 has a party on the 29th, which seems good. Dylan Drazen 

I'll be @ bubbilicious and dustin's partiez.

earache

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 11:07:15 1996
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> why not buy preday tix to a party?  When budgets reach $10-15000, the
> majority of promoters would like some of that cash before the party to
> help pay for stuff like sound, lights, etc.  Its not just a party when the
> budget reaches that high.  And, would you even be interested or as hyped
> about a party if it wasnt "all that?"  "All that" costs big bucks, so a
> little early return can both chill out the promoter (who sees that some
> people are gonna come, even if its just days before the event,) and in
> some situations chill out the investors.  

You've gotta realize that I live in minneapolis.  Here, if a promoter 
hypes a party and says its all that, you know that it's just hype.  The 
best two parties i've been to this year were small and lost money.  he 
parties that are hyped by the "big 3" promoters (uniti, MSM, and encore) 
usually aren't "all that" even when they claim that they are.

Chris

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I need the info for a party next week in Rockford. I think it's the 
13th, or 14th. It's a liquid sky event with DJ's Reese, Traxx, Justin 
Long and I think someone else. If anyone has the date and phone # 
please post the info.

mucho thanks
Eric

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From: syt@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven Y. Tsang)
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could u imagine if E wuz legal?

u'd go to Raveco (the modern version of Revco) pick up yur 16oz
mountain dew, a pack of camels, a dozen trojans ribbed, and two
hits of government ecstacy.

there'll be a warning lable on it that reads: 

"warning: long term use may cause parkinson disease, depression, paranoia,
 difficulty dealing with reality, emotional and financial instability.
 pregnant women should stay away from this drug since use of drug may
 cause birth defects or premature births."

but of course u'd say: "yeah, whatever" pay the $80 bones (cuz u 
know the government will hike up the prices to make a mad profit)
and buy it.

on the way home u swerve out of the way of a red neck rolling his
brains out driving his pick-up all over the road cuz the steering
wheel feels soooo good when he makes sudden turns especially when
he's got dolly parton blaring out of his car stereo!

u come home to find that yur parents are rolling too. yur mom &
dad stop rubbing each other long enuff to come up to u. they can't
help hugging & rubbing u as they ask u whether u bought some for
yur sweet ole mommmy & daddy. u avoid the question by asking where
the family car went. yur father babbles something between drools.
it seems he sold it buy more E. 

u shove'em off u & run upstairs. when u go to the bathroom to take a
leak u find yur sister by the toilet w/ toilet paper all over her.
she claims that "charmin feels the best while yur rolling". u scream:
"get yur toilet paper covered ass outta here before i piss all over
you!" she has trouble hearing u becuz she had lost 80% of her hearing
becuz she wuz a speaker hugger for her five years of raving and now
she's mostly deaf. so u have to shove her out, toilet paper & all.
as u urinate. u notice that it stings on its way out. along with
the strange color of yur urine, u also notice that it carries a
very strange odor, but u ignore it blaming it on the goverment acid
& the government pot u were smoking last night. damn that shit must've
been good to do that to my piss!

i could go on, but i think y'all are getting the picture now. it's
not a very pretty picture...

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At 12:36 AM 6/5/96 -0400, trobbs wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Chris Ege wrote:
>
>> > >> - Ravers know what to do with a dead glowstick.
>
>> I dont!!! What do you do with a dead glowstick??? My little brother puts 
>> 'em in the freezer, because he thinks it makes the glow come back. But he 
>> only gets them at haloween. (he's 12)
>
>Hehe... that's ok.  I'm still trying to figure that one out. :)
>



you put them in the microwave (not too long or it will explode) or in
boiling water.  the heat starts up the chemical reaction again.  it will
glow really bright for a little while but will quickly die out.  someone
mentioned putting them in the freezer - this only works if the glowstick
isnt dead yet - this slows down the chemical reaction enough that when you
warm it up again it will start to glow - not as well as when you first
snapped it though - thats when you microwave it  

btw, i guess i must have been born to be a raver 'cause ive been doing this
since i first discovered glowsticks as a kid :)


>
>
>
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*joe			               

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Wow.  I resubscribe thinking some of the banality may have left this list 
due to school being out (for most people) but instead I am greeted with 
this crap...

Rather than respond to *EVERY* line of this rediculous post I'll just 
offer two comments.

With the 

"there'll be a warning lable on it that reads:

'warning: long term use may cause parkinson disease, depression, paranoia,
 difficulty dealing with reality, emotional and financial instability.
 pregnant women should stay away from this drug since use of drug may
 cause birth defects or premature births.'" 

silliness, it is once again, 
exhausting yet important to note, and renote, and renote, and 
renote..(apparently), that MDMA does not cause parkinson's disease, or a 
symptom similar to Parkinson's diease.  The hype was caused by the drug 
MPTP, and there is current speculation that haloperidol, chlorpromazine, 
and thiothixene *MIGHT* cause the same effect because of their 
similarities to MPTP (they inactivate the same enzyme in cells that MPTP 
does).  MDMA is not one of these drugs.  Where did you get this info 
about birth defects?!  Absolute unfounded rubbish.

As for the rest of the post... I realize that it was an attempt to be 
hilarious, and that's fine...  I wouldn't have even responded if it 
wasn't for the last "it wouldn't be a pretty picture" line...        
Let's keep in mind that simply 
because an intoxicating substance is legal, this does not mean that 
EVERYONE will be using this ALL OF THE TIME.  I mean.. a similar post 
could have been made (had there been computers) during prohibition of 
alcohol.. simply substitute a few of the effects of MDMA for the effects 
of alchol, and presto... instant nonsense.

The arguments for the benefits of the legalization of MDMA are many... 
but have been said again and again (so  I'll spare the rhetoric).  
But phaleeeeeeez...let's not be so completely idiotic (even if the 
motivation was simply to be humourous...)

-X

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>i could go on, but i think y'all are getting the picture now. it's
>not a very pretty picture...

It isn't very realistic one either ... :P

earache

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From: Ben Page / Dj Cylert <page@simon.wustl.edu>
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V (five) - The Revelation Tour
July 5th, 6th, & 7th
St Louis, MO

Underground Resistance, featuring Rolando and James Pennington
Mike Dearborn - DJAX Records, Chicago
Skull - DJAX Records, Chicago
Hyperactive - Contact Records, Chicago
David Hollands - Minimal Wage, Satellite Records, NYC
Goodwill - God's House, INCE., Zenith Productions, Delaware
Trevor Lamont - Zenith Productions, Lexington
Tommie Sunshine - Satellite Records, Xylophone Jones, Atlanta
Minddrive - Erotishock, Madison
EFEX - Hard Trance Guru, Chicago
Delta 9 - Industrial Strength
Tripper Information Systems - Chicago
Traxx - Liquid Sky, Teamsters, Chicago
Justin Long - Liquid Sky, Teamsters, Chicago
Halo - Teamsters, Chicago
Damian - Source Productions, Chicago
Astroboy - St Louis
Jeff Feller - Deep Grooves, St Louis
Devil Girl - Connect, House of Musique, St Louis
Phyzik - Connect, House of Musique, St Louis
Richard Devine - Six Sixty Six, Connect, Atlanta
CJ Peak - House of Musique, New Jersey
Rachel - House of Musique, Philly
Cylert - Illuminators, Connect, Vybrations, St Louis
Audio Transit - Tweak N Peak, Nashville
Monochrome - Fuzzy Logic, Columbus
Doughboy - Elemental, Columbus
Andromeda - Elemental , Columbus
Kingsize - Jungle Sky, Suburban Bass, Columbus
Ed Luna - Elemental, Columbus
Arash - Illuminators, Dayton
Kell - Anomoly, Lexington
Wilhelm K - Indiana
Jedidiah - Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee
Gank - Spawntaneous, Cleveland
Mark Verbos - Solid State Recordings, Milwaukee
Phantom 45 - Chicago
Snuggles & Slak - Chicago
Phil Free Art - Chicago
Dino - Deep House Cat, St Louis
The Professor - Feel It, BAM, St Louis
Express - Zenith Productions, St Louis
Nitro - Dialeighted, St Louis
Marc Buxton - Deep Grooves, St Louis
Matt Brendle - Hard Mutha, St Louis
Jeremy Reese - St Louis
Glitch - St Louis
Tre - St Louis
Kazu - St Louis
Midwest Avengers - St Louis Hip-Hop

*PHEW*...This is an outdoor event, so prepare yourself and pace yourself;
know when to chill.  Rain, shine, or heat wave, this event will go off.
Bring common sense, a good attitude, and respect.  Please leave weapons,
negativity, and glass bottles at home.  Concessions will be available for
your convenience.

$20 Advance Tickets available at Deep Grooves (314) 726-0300
$22 Day of Event, discount with canned food

Info Lines - Connect Records (314) 995-8653
	     Vybrations      (314) 995-2660

---ben / Cylert (I typed this)

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 13:37:16 1996
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At 02:38 PM 6/5/96 -0400, Steven Y. Tsang wrote:
>could u imagine if E wuz legal?
>
>
>there'll be a warning lable on it that reads: 
>
>"warning: long term use may cause parkinson disease, depression, paranoia,
> difficulty dealing with reality, emotional and financial instability.
> pregnant women should stay away from this drug since use of drug may
> cause birth defects or premature births."
>

well, one thing i can say is that if "e" were legal people would know the
facts - one of which is that ecstacy *does NOT cause Parkinsons disease* !!!
it is idiot comments like that which cause the problems surrounding its use
(im not saying that Stevie is an idiot, but get you facts straight  -
especialy if you intend on publishing a 'zine).

__________________________________________________________________

*joe			               

DynamicGroove Events & Recordings, Milwaukee WI
v-mail: 414.967.3259 (event or recording info) 414.777.3988 (paul-event info)
e-mail: dgroove@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu
World Wide Web URL:  http://www.angelfire.com/free/dynamic.html 

< Reality is in a constant state of flux. >
__________________________________________________________________


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 14:28:04 1996
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To: Daniel S <robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu>
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>why not buy preday tix to a party?  When budgets reach $10-15000, the
>majority of promoters would like some of that cash before the party to
>help pay for stuff like sound, lights, etc.  Its not just a party when the
>budget reaches that high.  And, would you even be interested or as hyped
>about a party if it wasnt "all that?"  "All that" costs big bucks, so a
>little early return can both chill out the promoter (who sees that some
>people are gonna come, even if its just days before the event,) and in
>some situations chill out the investors.
>Its just another way to support.
>But I also wouldnt do this myself if I didnt feel it wasnt gonna happen.
>Shadey promoters (like that motherfucker that "threw" Higher Ground in
>Chicago last spring,) ruin this concept and the scene for all.


just a little comment i would like to add.......with the exception of Even
Further '96, the best parties i have been too are not major blow out raves,
but actually where the most vibe can be found in my experience is in the
little known totally underground free-$10 parties.....sure awesome lighting
and a mega sound system are really kewl but nothing in my opinion beats the
vibe of a schwag sound and lighting system set up in a dark dirty warehouse
with people just grooving their asses off and relying upon their
imagination and the vibe to provide the enregy as opposed to a 200 zillion
watt sound system with intellibeams, fog, and asshole securtiy required at
major events........just my opinion

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
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 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 15:15:54 1996
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From: "...adam" <adesombr@worf.uwsp.edu>
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.com
Subject: 1200 for sale.
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yep.
I have one Technics 1200 MKII turntable for sale.
It is approximately 8 or 9 months old.
I am asking $350 for it, which is a fair price I believe, seeing that it 
is almost new.  It is in mint condition.

Please email me here if you are interested.  I live in the central 
Wisconsin area, and I would really rather be able to have someone pick it 
up or be able to drop it off or something.  Shipping cost is real high on 
a 1200.  I will be coming to Madison the next two weekends in a row, so I 
anyone there is interesed, I could bring it on down.

later...
	...adam


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From: "Aaron M. Bennett" <99benne4@lab.cc.wmich.edu>
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one last reminder....


friday june 7 1996 in kalamazoo michigan
11:00pm to ????


area 51

djs:

shake
-frictional records (detroit)

claude young (if he can make it here)
-frictional/7th city records (detroit)

vice
-black nation/transmat records (kalamazoo)

d. knox
-sonic mind/cheap/black nation records (kalamazoo)

horsepower
-host of the mechanical pulse-88.9fm WDBM (east lansing)

aaron bennett
-black nation records (kalamazoo)

djreed
-madbeats (chicago/kalamazoo)

and others....


this event is only three dollars!!!!


for more info and directions call the get smart line at (313) 730-2202
or e-mail 99benne4@lab.cc.wmich.edu


-----------------------------------------------


aaron bennett
western michigan university/black nation records-kalamazoo
99benne4@lab.cc.wmich.edu

halfway between detroit and chicago....




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You can get a new one for 379 at funk-o-mart in Philly.

On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, ...adam wrote:

> 
> 
> yep.
> I have one Technics 1200 MKII turntable for sale.
> It is approximately 8 or 9 months old.
> I am asking $350 for it, which is a fair price I believe, seeing that it 
> is almost new.  It is in mint condition.
> 
> Please email me here if you are interested.  I live in the central 
> Wisconsin area, and I would really rather be able to have someone pick it 
> up or be able to drop it off or something.  Shipping cost is real high on 
> a 1200.  I will be coming to Madison the next two weekends in a row, so I 
> anyone there is interesed, I could bring it on down.
> 
> later...
> 	...adam
> 
> 

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 17:59:55 1996
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From: Didier Bangudi <dnsimba@internetmci.com>
Subject: Glowsticks
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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

	A portion of the icky liquid that glowsticks contain is an odd chemical
called kemezene and glowsticks CAN be "recharged" by a process that re-
envigorates the kemezene molecules which are still highly conducive to
electric currents even after they stop glowing.
1.) Cut a small hole at either end of the stick and let a few drops (about
six) of the kemezene to spill out.
2.) Pour a small amount of rubbing alchohol into the hole (about six drops)
. The rubbing alchohol works to increase the conductivity of the mixture.
3.) Get a small nine volt battery and fit the positive end of the battery
into the hole allowing contact between the mixture and the positive tip of
the battery. As the kemezene molecules re-ignite  you'll feel the stick get
warmer and warmer ( don't get scared 'cause it wont boil or anything) After
about twenty minutes you'll see a faint glow that will increase in
intensity for about five minutes. The glow will have more of a yellowish
tint than it had before.
4.) Cover the hole with tape.
	A glowstick can be reinvigorated approximately three more times after it
loses its glow for the first time. Just be extra careful with it now
because the mixture of kemezene and rubbing alchohol makes it not only more
toxic but also very very very flammable so be careful.
       I learned this method from the Atlanta Starchildren crew (credit
where credit is due.) Thats why everyone in Atlanta has yellow glowsticks. :
:) So save money and save those glowsticks! Recycle and recharge! Pass the
info around.

Peace & Love                                                               
                                                     Goose                 
                                                                           
    P.S. If you try this method and it doesn't work don't be dissapointed;
A.) Just keep trying
         or
B.) Close your eyes, smile and whisper to yourself; "Gee, I think I've been
had." :)

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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

	A portion of the icky liquid that glowsticks contain is an odd chemical
called kemezene and glowsticks CAN be "recharged" by a process that re-
envigorates the kemezene molecules which are still highly conducive to
electric currents even after they stop glowing.
1.) Cut a small hole at either end of the stick and let a few drops (about
six) of the kemezene to spill out.
2.) Pour a small amount of rubbing alchohol into the hole (about six drops)
. The rubbing alchohol works to increase the conductivity of the mixture.
3.) Get a small nine volt battery and fit the positive end of the battery
into the hole allowing contact between the mixture and the positive tip of
the battery. As the kemezene molecules re-ignite  you'll feel the stick get
warmer and warmer ( don't get scared 'cause it wont boil or anything) After
about twenty minutes you'll see a faint glow that will increase in
intensity for about five minutes. The glow will have more of a yellowish
tint than it had before.
4.) Cover the hole with tape.
	A glowstick can be reinvigorated approximately three more times after it
loses its glow for the first time. Just be extra careful with it now
because the mixture of kemezene and rubbing alchohol makes it not only more
toxic but also very very very flammable so be careful.
       I learned this method from the Atlanta Starchildren crew (credit
where credit is due.) Thats why everyone in Atlanta has yellow glowsticks. :
:) So save money and save those glowsticks! Recycle and recharge! Pass the
info around.

Peace & Love                                                               
                                                     Goose                 
                                                                           
    P.S. If you try this method and it doesn't work don't be dissapointed;
A.) Just keep trying
         or
B.) Close your eyes, smile and whisper to yourself; "Gee, I think I've been
had." :)

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Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 18:09:15 -0500
From: Didier Bangudi <dnsimba@internetmci.com>
Subject: ELECTRIC afterparties
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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

     As the week goes by and the weekend approaches I catch myself looking
at my small pile of flyers over and over and I get real psyched even though
I've seen them a million times. The flyer for Electric came out about a
month ago so for me it's been building up for a while now. Not only have I
been looking forward to the party itself but I catch myself thinking about
the afterparty just as often. It seems that in Nashville the concept of the
afterparty is taken real seriously and I wish that more promoters would do
that.
	Do _not_ underestimate the sheer power of dope ass afterparties! At the
afterparty everyone is in a different state of mind, a real cool laid back
mode that starkly contrasts the hectic chaotic funk that we encounter
during the night. Both modes are good and valuable but it seems that people
undervalue the worth of the aftermode.
	Daydreams of Bassasarus Rex kicking my ass into that funky floaty Goodwill
mix working on my head as I trance out into the nether regions of  dat
funktified mind space. And I only predict disaster for the dancefloor
'cause the whole area has been starving for an event that showcases house.
	Daydreams of chilling out the day after. Not inside but outside- the way
it should be. Afterhours is not just a chance to switch modes but it's also
an opportunity for  drivers to catch up on sleep and rest before returning
to the road and thats valuable, important and necessary. Promoters take
note. :)                                                                   
                                                                           
PEACE OUT,                                                                 
                                                    Killa Goose (goose
faced killa)                                                            
***Reliable sources indicate that miltant factions of the House Nation will
also be attending Electric in Nashville this weekend, you will not even be
able to recognize them until the entire venue has been thoroughly occupied.
Then and only then will you be able to spot them by the way they freak when
they hear the bass drum and hihat go; thumpsst thumpsst thumpsst thumpsst
e.t.c. ad infinitum.                     

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Didier Bangudi wrote:
> 
> -- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --
> 
>      As the week goes by and the weekend approaches I catch myself looking
> at my small pile of flyers over and over and I get real psyched even though
> I've seen them a million times. The flyer for Electric came out about a
> month ago so for me it's been building up for a while now. Not only have I
> been looking forward to the party itself but I catch myself thinking about
> the afterparty just as often. It seems that in Nashville the concept of the
> afterparty is taken real seriously and I wish that more promoters would do
> that.
>         Do _not_ underestimate the sheer power of dope ass afterparties! At the
> afterparty everyone is in a different state of mind, a real cool laid back
> mode that starkly contrasts the hectic chaotic funk that we encounter
> during the night. Both modes are good and valuable but it seems that people
> undervalue the worth of the aftermode.
>         Daydreams of Bassasarus Rex kicking my ass into that funky floaty Goodwill
> mix working on my head as I trance out into the nether regions of  dat
> funktified mind space. And I only predict disaster for the dancefloor
> 'cause the whole area has been starving for an event that showcases house.
>         Daydreams of chilling out the day after. Not inside but outside- the way
> it should be. Afterhours is not just a chance to switch modes but it's also
> an opportunity for  drivers to catch up on sleep and rest before returning
> to the road and thats valuable, important and necessary. Promoters take
> note. :)
> 
> PEACE OUT,
>                                                     Killa Goose (goose
> faced killa)
> ***Reliable sources indicate that miltant factions of the House Nation will
> also be attending Electric in Nashville this weekend, you will not even be
> able to recognize them until the entire venue has been thoroughly occupied.
> Then and only then will you be able to spot them by the way they freak when
> they hear the bass drum and hihat go; thumpsst thumpsst thumpsst thumpsst
> e.t.c. ad infinitum.


AWWWWWWWWW YEAAAAAAAA

The shit is ON!!!!!!!

All us true house heads must united in Nashville this weekend.

Myself, Goodwill, Traxx, Dino and the true house NIGGAS are gonna beat 
it senseless for the True house people. 

-- 
 
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 20:20:05 1996
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From: Davis Daniel J <davisd@odo.msoe.edu>
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hehe    well folks after my school took away the accounts of people not
paying for school yet...I lost my account ....therefore i borrowed a good
freinds account   
if anyone has emailed me in the past week and it bounced   please write
back at this addy
thanks mucho


student formally known as mikeyd
discordia 
soon  http://www.msoe.edu/~davisd


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 21:12:27 1996
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blitz sed....

just a little comment i would like to add.......with the exception of Even
Further '96, the best parties i have been too are not major blow out raves,
but actually where the most vibe can be found in my experience is in the
little known totally underground free-$10 parties.....sure awesome lighting
and a mega sound system are really kewl but nothing in my opinion beats the
vibe of a schwag sound and lighting system set up in a dark dirty warehouse
with people just grooving their asses off and relying upon their
imagination and the vibe to provide the enregy as opposed to a 200 zillion
watt sound system with intellibeams, fog, and asshole securtiy required at
major events........just my opinion

........

and i have to agree:)  i prefer the intimate scene more than the bigger 
than the superbowl/rockfest style party by far.  thus the slogan "bring 
it home for '97":)  small underground like it was in the beginning 
(although i really wasnt there) and not the rave industry that is 
emerging in places like chicago.

my 2 cents into the collectiuon plate for the next small party.:)

dylan

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"bring it home for '97"

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On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Dustin B Bowman wrote:

> You can get a new one for 379 at funk-o-mart in Philly.

ahhh but this is the MW where they run 475-500 at cheapest! so....sew 
buttons on your underwear;)

dylan

> 
> On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, ...adam wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > yep.
> > I have one Technics 1200 MKII turntable for sale.
> > It is approximately 8 or 9 months old.
> > I am asking $350 for it, which is a fair price I believe, seeing that it 
> > is almost new.  It is in mint condition.
> > 
> > Please email me here if you are interested.  I live in the central 
> > Wisconsin area, and I would really rather be able to have someone pick it 
> > up or be able to drop it off or something.  Shipping cost is real high on 
> > a 1200.  I will be coming to Madison the next two weekends in a row, so I 
> > anyone there is interesed, I could bring it on down.
> > 
> > later...
> > 	...adam
> > 
> > 
> 

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun  5 22:49:08 1996
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I must say that I really enjoy medium-sized parties the best. (get ready 
for some pointless rambling- i'm good at it)  I don't know what would be 
considered "small" but I definitely know what's big.  And While I like to 
hit a few big parties, I wouldn't want to go to big ones every time I hit 
a party.  And that's what it looks like for this summer. Big parties 
only.  According to the promoters, "the scene's blowing up this summer." 
My ass. All that means is that they're promoting it harder, making it 
into a lollapalooza with techno music.  I mean, just take a look at the 
flyer for One-Der!  What the fuck was encore thinking?  I mean, this is 
minneapolis, not Chicago! And I don't think fliers need to be that big 
even in chicago.  It's just too much hype.  And the one-der flier isn't 
even cool!  I mean, maybe if they woulda come up with a cool design 
inseatd of just the encore logo on some green marble with a cheezy 
photoshop 3.0 lens flare. And that font! god, it's awful.  One big plus 
though is the descriptions of all the DJs on the back.  Actually, the 
back is a really nice design, it's just the front that's bad. Now, my 
idea of a cool flier is the "gentle" flier for that 6/15 party in 
chicago.  They must've spent a ridiculous amount of money for the special 
cutting job, but damn those fliers are beautiful.  Although once again we 
ee the gartuitous lens flare.  What's the deal? Adobe puts a lens flare 
into their program and suddenly I have to put up with lens flares on 
fucking everything thats printed anywhere? Now a real great flier is the 
Juice flier, for that club event with Terry Mullan as the resident DJ.  
That's really just plain beautiful design.  I won't even talk about the 
flier abomination that is uniti's mac street 2.  It's just awful. 
Anyways, I'd have to say that most of the flier work here in minneapolis 
is sub-standard. The only really good fliers lately have been Closer (new 
years eve) and 420 sessions.  And those were shitty parties too.

(the ramblings of an art student, courtesy of chris ege)

well, peace, and see you all (well maybe just a few) at summer daze this 
weekend.

chris


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Have to say a good word about the work clinton did tonight to provide
another outlet for our muzik in this dumpy ass city we call home.

Unfortuantely, no one showed besides the deejays and maybe six others :*

Which was alright because it kind of turned into a very nice private party
with big speakerz:)

Maybe it's the location, the day or the fact that alot of people are doing
finals/end of skool shite.  Whose to say.

Anyways, I had fun banging the box and fun listening to paul-e-wog freak
out, gabber girl pound dat shit out, chris sattinger bust the balletic moves
as he mixed from rekkid to rekkid and doing my swedish MC bit over djWisc's
always tasty jungle set.

I had personally had a ball as I got to play with tekknoBOX on a nice, loud
system - a very gratifying personal moment.  Hope the tune went over well
for peoplez:)

Anyways, clinton's pulling 2gether another one next week with: Chris
Sattinger, djSLIP, myself, paul-e-wog and Joe <insert last name, cuz I
forget>.  You net.nerds should check it out, support your own kind ;) hint
hint nudge nudge wink wink.

A better set-up then any destini I hung out in the parking lot of ;)

hehe

earache

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun  6 01:11:01 1996
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> Have to say a good word about the work clinton did tonight to provide
> another outlet for our muzik in this dumpy ass city we call home.
Hey, it's not that dumpy! :)

> 
> Unfortuantely, no one showed besides the deejays and maybe six others :*
> 
I was planning on showig up, but then my  friend who I haven't seen in 
abbout 3 months called me up and so I had to go out with her and some 
friends. Oh well, I'll try to make it next week.
> 
> Maybe it's the location, the day or the fact that alot of people are doing
> finals/end of skool shite.  Whose to say.
> 
I know the high school that I went to last year was finished as of today, 
dunno about other schools. I think most colleges are out now.  It might 
be that it wasn't that heavily promoted. Or was it? I haven't really been 
into society (IE out of the suburbs) for about a week now, so I don't 
know. But I hadn't heard anything about it until the day before.
> 
> Anyways, clinton's pulling 2gether another one next week with: Chris
> Sattinger, djSLIP, myself, paul-e-wog and Joe <insert last name, cuz I
> forget>.  You net.nerds should check it out, support your own kind ;) hint
> hint nudge nudge wink wink.
for sure. I'll be there, and hopefully bring the dancing fiends that I 
call friends. 
> 
> A better set-up then any destini I hung out in the parking lot of ;)
> 
No way! destini rocked! and I'm sure their new weekly event rocks just as 
hard. (duh, I'm kidding) BTW, did they ever get Terry Mullan that one 
week like they were claiming to do?

take it easy,
chris



destini... yuck.

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well i didn't make it for one of the reasons that earache said, school, 
damn these finals, and for a few other reasons, but i have to say i'm 
sorry to have missed it. sounds like it went well and i hope it 
prospers...don't suppose there will be a "earache: live at FRESH" tape 
out at any time? eh? EH?

i go home this saturday but i will be using this account all summer and 
god knows, prolly til they figurte out i simply don't attend this school 
anymore.;)  

anyway good luck clinton and all those involved in this thingy:)

dylan

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One of the saddest and least noticed consequences of the war 
on drugs is the under-treatment and non-treatment of chronic 
pain.  Literally hundreds of thousands of patients endure 
needless agony -- in some cases turning to suicide as the 
only available form of relief -- because they could not find 
a doctor willing to prescribe adequate doses of narcotics 
for them.

The problem is two-fold: widespread ignorance on the part of 
physicians on chronic pain treatment; and a threatening law 
enforcement bureaucracy that can ruin or even incarcerate 
doctors whom they see as being too liberal with their 
prescriptions.  These two factors play into each other to 
perpetuate a situation in which denial of pain relief is 
standard practice.

On September 17, 1991, agents from the Drug Enforcement 
Administration and a local narcotics officer visited Dr. 
William Hurwitz in his Washington, DC office, stripping him 
of his licenses to prescribe narcotics and practice 
medicine.  Hurwitz got his medical license back six days 
later, but it took nine months and $55,000 in legal fees 
before he could once again prescribe narcotics.  The DEA 
moved against Hurwitz because  he prescribed up to 500 
milligrams a day of oxycodone, a strong opioid painkiller, 
to treat the severe, chronic pain of a patient suffering 
from bone deterioration in his hips.  The standard dose of 
oxycodone advised at that time was only 20 milligrams, but 
when patients suffer from long-term, intolerable levels of 
pain, tolerance to the drug builds up quickly and very high 
doses are not only necessary for pain relief, but are also 
safe: addiction is extremely rare among pain patients, and 
after a short time period, the drugs no longer get the 
patients "high," but rather allow them to function normally.

The drug police are again trying to take down Dr. Hurwitz.  
This time it's the Virginia Medical Board, which has 
suspended his license in that state and is holding hearings 
in late June, based on the claim that Dr. Hurwitz's 
continued practice of medicine "constitutes a substantial 
danger to the public health and safety."  (The DEA is almost 
certainly involved behind the scenes.)  Hurwitz can still 
practice in Washington, DC, for now, but the Virginia 
pharmacies that had served his patients nationwide cannot 
fill his prescriptions.  These patients are frightened that 
they will be unable to get pain medication; even worse, the 
action, if it stands, will bring the progress of chronic 
pain treatment to a virtual halt.  As one of Hurwitz's 
patients, a prominent attorney, wrote: "The chilling effect 
this type of action has on the willingness of *any* 
physician to provide legitimate treatment for persons with 
chronic pain cannot be overstated.  We will essentially be 
orphan patients given the right to unobstructed assisted 
suicide by the federal courts, but no right to a decent 
quality of life by any as-yet recognized body of law.  These 
stark choices are familiar to many of us, and we must take 
action -- now -- before the Board itself visits upon us a 
`substantial danger' to *our* health and safety."

The consequences for physicians can go far beyond loss of 
career.  In 1990, a Dr. William Polan was sent to prison 
after an old friend of his, George Wehner, had recruited 14 
people to fake illnesses to Dr. Polan so that George could 
sell the drug he prescribed them, oxcydone, on the street.  
George testified against Dr. Polan, in order to plea bargain 
his sentence down to six months, while Dr. Polan, who had no 
one to testify against, received a mandatory minimum 
sentence of 12 years in prison without the possibility of 
parole.  The sentence was determined based not only on the 
weight of the oxcydone, but also on the weight of the 
carrier mixture, aspirin or Tylenol, which was several times 
greater.

Requiring doctors to act as police over their patients 
dramatically compromises the quality of treatment of chronic 
pain.  The Virginia Medical Board and the DEA are 
interfering with proper medical care and are ruining lives.  
You can help in any of the following ways:

1) Write the Board to protest their reckless actions.  You
don't have to live in Virginia to write them.  Address your
correspondence to:

	Warren W. Koontz, M.D.
	Executive Director, Board of Medicine
	6606 West Broad St., 4th Floor
	Richmond, VA 23230-1717
	(804) 662-9943 (fax)

2) Attend Dr. Hurwitz's hearing.  It is scheduled to take 
place on Thursday and Friday, June 20 & 21, 1996, beginning 
at 9:30 AM each day.  The hearing could be postponed or 
canceled, so you should call the Board at (804) 662-9908 for 
verification.

3) A fund has been established for Dr. Hurwitz's defense.  
It will cost him $35,000 just to begin, and the total cost 
could run as high as $250,000.  If you wish to contribute, 
make checks payable to his attorneys, Tate & Bywater, 2740 
Chain Bridge Rd., Vienna, VA 22181, and make sure to 
indicate on the check that it is for the Dr. William E. 
Hurwitz Legal Defense Fund.

4) Distribute this bulletin to people you know, especially 
doctors and patients.

Dr. Hurwitz has been interviewed for the CBS Evening News.  
We don't yet know what day he will be featured, but it could 
be as soon as Thursday, May 6.  DRCNet Director David Borden 
appeared on local television with Dr. Hurwitz and three 
patients/activists in Williamsburg, VA last Memorial Day 
weekend.  The tape will be made available in the near 
future, and is the right length to be distributable by other 
local access cable stations, most of which are eager for new 
material.  You can help get the word out by getting the 
video to your local access cable station, and by letting 
people you know about the CBS feature.

More information on the pain issue is available from the 
National Chronic Pain Outreach Association (NCPOA), 7979 Old 
Georgetown Rd., Suite 100, Bethesda, MD 20814, (301) 652-
4948, (301) 907-0745 (fax), ncpoa1@aol.com.  You can get 
involved with the pain issue online by subscribing to the 
mailing list of the American Society for Action on Pain 
(ASAP); send e-mail to listproc@drcnet.org with the line 
"subscribe ASAP your name" in the message.

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1. Mini cutting board (great for the office or the car, use metal door for 
knife). 
2. Attach it to a ruler and presto! - you've got a fly swatter. 
3. Construct a life size replica of Stonehenge. 
4. At a restaurant, shove one under a wobbling table leg. 
5. Money clip (use the metal door and discard the plastic case...the "rich 
nerd" look is IN this year). 
6. Eye patch (for one-eyed software pirates). 
7. Christmas ornaments (the more the merrier). 
8. Give them to young children to use as building blocks. 
9. Glue them to the bottom of the space shuttle and use them as re-entry burn 
tiles. 
10. Dentures (melt & form them into new teeth for grandma). 
11. Room dividers for hamsters. 
12. Drink coasters. 
13. Use multiple disks to create an ideal door stopper. 
14. Ice scraper. 
15. Bathroom tile. 
16. Bookmark. 
17. Mini frisbee. 
18. Air hockey puck. 
19. Dog chew toy. 
20. Dart board. 
21. Pooper scooper. 
22. Grill scraper. 
23. Use them for karate board-breaking demonstrations (save a tree). 
24. Wrist slicer - after receiving first AOL bill (use metal door). 
25. Conversation piece for coffee table. 
26. Destroy them - smash, burn, or run over to relieve stress. 
27. Light switch cover. 
28. Chinese throwing stars (tape 2 together). 
29. Clay pigeons for target practice. 
30. Greeting card (bind two together at one end). 
31. Halloween treat (give them away all night long). 
32. Bullet proof vest (arrange together in triple thickness). 
33. Firewood. 
34. Bird house. 
35. Paper weights. 
36. Pen holders (make a box without a top). 
37. Post it-notes holder. 
38. Refrigerator magnet (glue a magnet to the back). 
39. A very sturdy base for putting the motorcycle sidestand on when parking on 
soft surfaces. 
40. Keep 'em in the trunk for extra traction in the snow. 
41. Solar Eclipse Glasses (open door and look through disk at the sun/moon 
-actually works). 
42. Placing one in each back pocket helps children who get paddled by the 
coach. This spreads the force to a wider area. 
43. Make an AOL disk & pasta casserole. 
44. Incense burners (put stick in hole of disk hub and light the incense. 
45. Bug Shield (glue a bunch to the front of your car's hood). 
46. Put them on car windshields at the mall (along with this list). 
47. Melt the plastic of the disks into a giant sculpture. 
48. Hand them out as party favors. 
49. Hidden/spare key holder (crack open 1 side, insert key and then place near 
door. Completely safe...who would want an AOL disk?) 
50. Vertical blinds. 
51. Be an AOL diskette surgeon and disect a diskette. 
52. Bench press weights (I can press 120). 
53. Grind 'em up and refertilize the front lawn. 
54. The new "Domino's stuffed-crust pizza" filling. 
55. Tell the kids to leave warm milk & AOL disks for Santa. 
56. Brake shoes. 
57. House insulation. 
58. Recycle them for the scrap metal. 
59. Kitchen tile for Bill Gates' new mansion in Seatle (walk all over the 
competition) 
60. Hockey Puck. 
61. Add water and special plant life to make a Chia-Disk. 
62. Noise maker for your bike spokes (why damage your valuable baseball 
cards). 
63. Put one on a leash and drag it along as you walk...makes the perfect pet. 
64. Poker chips. 
65. Baseball practice (throw them up in the air and hit them with the bat). 
66. Keychain (Put a key ring through one of the writeprotect holes and you've 
got a snappy executive bathroom keychain for the office). 
67. Mail to 10 friends-start an AOL chain-letter (add a disk with each link). 
68. Earmuffs (glue some fur on one side, then attach a U-shaped piece of bent 
coathanger to both disks). 
69. Grind them up to make fake snow. 
70. Earrings (put loop into write-protect hole). 
71. Dental floss (use actual disk). 
72. Use them for zipper pulls (instead of ski lift tickets). 
73. When your collection of disks reaches 52, use them for a deck of cards. 
74. Use them to fill potholes. 
75. Hood ornament. 
76. Snow blower replacement blades. 
77. Put them in your shirt pocket to make you look smart. 
78. Make two stacks of 10 and use them as heels for platform shoes. 
79. Rubic's cube case (make into box). 
80. Shipping material (keeps your photos from being bent in the mail). 
81. Protect your table from burns caused by hot pots and pans. 
82. Snack trays (great for holding hors d'oeuvres at parties). 
83. Give them as stocking stuffers to all those people who piss you off. 
84. Fly paper (use actual disk and put string through middle, hang 2" apart 
and apply honey to disks). 
85. Pocket protector (gee Gilbert I really like your new pocket protector 
-thanks Lewis). 
86. They make a *dandy* addition to a #$*+&% neighbor's back yard. Better yet, 
get them to actually install it on their computer. 
87. Use them as elbow and knee pads. 
88. Wax scraper for snowboards. 
89. Use them to decorate your aquarium and create Computer City under water. 
90. Tape a few together and use them as a mouse pad. 
91. Collect a large mass and detonate a supernova. 
92. A wind clacker (similar to a wind chime). 
93. Soap dish (remove metal to prevent rusting). 
94. Row markers for your vegetable garden. (carrots, beans, peas....) 
95. Makes the perfect dance floor for your ant colony. 
96. Bread roller (use actual disks and put rod through center-use about 100). 
97. Hot glue gun resting/protecting pad. 
98. Baby mobile. 
99. Fence (may need a few thousand). 
100. Toe tags for mortuaries. Great for identifying dead computer nerds. 
101. Wonderbra inserts for that Madonna-techno look.

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um...heh, in the new issue of *spin* (july, it's got soundgarden on the
cover) there is a summer entertainment guide, featuring the following lil
nugget of info:

RABBIT IN THE MOON
indianapolis, june 15

this three-year-old performance art-techno band/gathering has become some
popular that rave kids tattoo themselves with its logo.  DJs monk and
confucius propel the show with varying intensities of music, while
performance artist bunny puts on a wire-mesh mask and takes a buzz saw to
his face (sparks fly).  "it's not commercial, it's not uncommercial," says
confucius.  "it's definitely music for the masses."  the masses are
expected to encompass 2,000 to 7,000 people in each city--all by word of
mouth.  this summer, the band also plans to play parties and clubs in l.a.,
pheonix, atlanta, orlando, st louis, and san francisco.  for information,
go to http://www.hallucination.com or check with your local record store.

there was also something in there regarding park rave madness' "fantasia
II" in nyc 7.6 (that flyer that is *bigger* than the ravestock flyer was :P
*gag*

hmmm....you think spin found out about this *themselves*?  perhaps a little
$ was involved, eh?  just a thought....hmmm

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
**************************************************************************
"curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
                                              -falling forward
**************************************************************************



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From: clee@anode.com (chris lee)
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directions and information on ELECTRIC in nashville

are available at

http://www.anode.com/personal_pages/clee/electric.htm

Chris Lee - Creative Director       clee@anode.com
Anode Interactive             http://www.anode.com
808 Broadway, 3rd Floor         615.742.1490 voice
Nashville, Tennessee 37203        615.742.1487 fax
"...these aren't the droids you're looking for..."



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun  6 19:47:25 1996
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As most people should know by now Timothy Leary died last thursday from
prostate cancer. Since he was a supporter of what many Ravers most basic
philosophies of life are all about. I was wondering if anyone would like to
discuss the furthering of the psychedelic revolution.

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FRIDAY JUNE 7 1996

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>As most people should know by now Timothy Leary died last thursday from
>prostate cancer. Since he was a supporter of what many Ravers most basic
>philosophies of life are all about. I was wondering if anyone would like to
>discuss the furthering of the psychedelic revolution.

i furthered the psychedelic revolution last night......about 4 hits
worth......hehehehe.....no actually in all seriousnous the psychedelic
revolution has gone sooooo much further through a number of ways already
long past what timothy leary could ever have created or imagined......one
of my favorite people that deal with this subject, and has a lot more to do
with the rave scene than timothy leary ever did, is Terence McKenna.  just
my opinion......another really good book to get ahold of is a book called
'Cyberia'

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
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                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

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Well, so sorry for big crosspost.

I have a brand new mix tape out entitled "UpTight."  It's a nonstop 90 
minute mix of minimal to harder-edged techno, performed on 3 turntables.
It is on a high-quality chrome tape, and it comes with a full color fold-out 
J card and professional labels on the tape itself.  Music originates from 
many areas, including England, Belgium, Germany, Slovakia, Holland, 
Japan, Scottland, France, (and of course) Detroit and Chicago.  

I am asking $7 for the tape in person, and $10 flat for a tape ordered by 
mail ($3 for shipping).  If you're interested, respond via *private* 
email.  Thanks!

-Dylan Drazen.

June 15 - Orange        - Montreal, Canada
June 22 - Funklovetripx - Dallas, TX
June 29 - Mutate/Violet - Minneapolis, MN

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From: Chris Sattinger <satti002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> (Chris Sattinger)
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>Maybe it's the location, the day or the fact that alot of people are doing
>finals/end of skool shite.  Whose to say.
And the fucking tornados.

>
>Anyways, I had fun banging the box and fun listening to paul-e-wog freak
>out, gabber girl pound dat shit out, chris sattinger bust the balletic moves
>as he mixed from rekkid to rekkid

I knew I shouldn't have worn the tutu.

 and doing my swedish MC bit over djWisc's
>always tasty jungle set.

awesome !   uffda.


>
>I had personally had a ball as I got to play with tekknoBOX on a nice, loud
>system - a very gratifying personal moment.  Hope the tune went over well
>for peoplez:)
>

yep.

>
>A better set-up then any destini I hung out in the parking lot of ;)


fuck yah.
we are working on moving this event to a St. Paul club currently.   the
club is into it.

\
>
>hehe
>
>earache

  Over and Out.

==================================================
Chris Sattinger                                                            
     
                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

discography:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/discography.html
                               ================================================

US Techno House Business Resource :

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From: Chris Sattinger <satti002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> (Chris Sattinger)
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>hmmm....you think spin found out about this *themselves*?  perhaps a little
>$ was involved, eh?  just a thought....hmmm


Actually the people who work at Spin are for the most part pretty well
informed about a lot of music (world beat, rap and techno).   I know
several people who work occasionally for Spin who were at Furthur merely
for their own enjoyment.    One of them (Simon Reynolds) will probably do
an article for Rolling Stone about furthur.
Spin plays the market, and the market they play doesn't listen to techno,
so they have never needed to do anything but occasionally comment on
something like the San Francisco beach parties.   Mostly they know exactly
where techno is at, and they know what the rave scene is like.    Some of
them know better than to write articles about something that prides itself
on being underground.
Honestly, don't think they are dumb asses.    I was talking with the
then-editor of Spin (2years ago).   she wanted to put a rap group on the
cover.    Arrested Development seemed like the perfect chance to do a cool
article and break it to mainstream rock heads.   Unfortunately, most of
their money is made on sales at newstands.    Newstand sales are based on
the Cover.     the issue with AD was the lowest selling issue ever.
fuck america.
Dr. Dre goes platinum and never gets radio or mtv.   Because that media is
scared of the extremists who call in and complain.     I have direct
experience with this stuff.   racism pure and simple.
anyway, the people who work at these mags do know what is going on, and
most of them are smarter than their audiences by a long shot.
which doesn't mean Spin is any better a read than it is or interests me at
all.  : )  oh well.

  Over and Out.

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                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

discography:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/discography.html
                               ================================================

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http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/DanceLabel.html



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could you imagine if alcohol was legal?

you go to your nearest convenience store, pick up a bag of pretzels, a pack
of camels, a dozen trojans ribbed, and a 24 pack of some really cheap beer.

there's a warning label on it that reads:

warning: (1) alcohol may cause permanent brain damage, cirrhosis of the
liver, birth defects in pregnant women, and may make you fat. (2) alcohol
impairs your ability to drive and operate machinery, and shuts down your
higher brain function in general which may cause you to do some really
stupid things.

but of course you say: "beer!" and pay the guy at the counter who is looking
forward to going home and getting wasted later that night.

on the way home you swerve out of the way of a red neck drunk off his ass
and trying to keep his eyes open. the whole time thinking to himself he is
prefectly ok to drive, and of course those higher brain functions aren't
there to argue with him. 

you come home and your parents are drunk off their asses too. your mom is
crouched up in the corner with her head in her hands. you hear her sobs and
her sporadic breathing. her drinking started at 5:30 when she had a bad day
at work, and wanted to take a load off. she sunk deeper into her depression,
and was joined in drunkedness 2 hours later by your father, who now stands
above your mother having just placed a large bruise on her face. you father
yells at you in with rage and asks you what the hell you're looking at. you
ask your father why your mother is crying, and he comes at you with a his fist.

you easily dodge your father and he stumbles to the floor and mumbles about
how he's going to get you. you run upstairs and leave your father to pass
out on the floor. you go to the bathroom to find your sister resting her
head on the toilet bowl. she too is drunk, and just decorated the toilet
with her stomach contents. she too is crying, because her boyfriend had sex
with her earlier in the night, but without really asking her. he was drunk too.

i could go on, but i think you all get the picture now. it's not a very
pretty picture. 

it's reality.

i would much rather be disgusted at the sight of seeing my parents hugging
and rubbing each other and laugh my ass off at my sister smiling and having
a blast with something is simple as a few rolls of toilet paper, all of them
rolling their asses off, than to ever experience the situation i described
above. i'm not saying e should be legal, but i really find it sadly
ridiculous that e is illegal while alcohol is not.

-kc


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Hey!

 I totally agree with Chris there! My old roommate used to sub to Spin, and I
picked it up a couple times, and once there was a teeny tiny article about a
jungle dj/musician from England. It touched briefly on the whole jungle thing,
and how popular it was over there. It wasn't anyhting I didn't already know,
but they DID have their facts straight... It was kinda cool to see MY music
represneted in a "music mag", even though they didn't go around blasting out
about the scene...

-Becky =)


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On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, allroy sez:

> > (can you say, "I'm not going to family reunion!")

> um, no.

> and i don't think anyone that went to the first family affair can say it,
> either.  :)

speak on, brother!!!

darrik


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collective intelligence presents and impromptu event

@ virtual overdrive, corner of 9th ave and high st in columbus ohio

featuring TREPP - dayton traxxmaster
          BREAKDOWN (walt) - columbus breaks
          ATMAN - columbus jungle/house buster
and more

12 mid-6am

$3

for more direcs email me back or call 614 470 0929
++
e d

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this sunday in columbus

twilight sundays @ mekka features

main room:
sleepy-c 
+ residents doughboy & placebo
 
velvet room:
mogli
lunar (that's me)

summer special!!!  $2 admission b4 11PM!
$5 after 11PM

come on out, kids...there'll be more to come
++
e d

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this is another one of the handouts i picked up last summer.  Was also
done by "communicate to liberate" just like the: what is "VIBE" ? handout
i posted here last week..




     YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE ANYONE, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE YOURSELF

	Perfection lies within us all.  Your mind is the key, you heart is
the lock.  You must open your mind to find the key.  Once found, take the
key and unlock your heart.  Within lies many great treasures, love being the
greatest.  Within this chest lies the key to perfection.  Perfection rest
only within yourself.  To strive for perfection leads ultimately to
regression.  YOU ARE THE KEY TO THE WORLD.
	You are love, peace and happiness.  You are hate, violence and
anger.  Society determines the greater.  Break away from society's chains. 
You will never change anyone. but you can always change yourself.  You are
the cause and the effect of the world's problems.  Follow your heart, guide
it with your mind.
	Someday will come great power upon this world.  Great wars will
encompass the earth, destroying all.  Civilizations will crumble.  New
intellegence will arise.  You are the key to the future.  Unlock it for all
it's worth, for you are to carry our children into a newage.
	The color of our skin does not determine our race but simply the
weather climate we live in.  But why are we called race?  What is it that we
strive for? Is it for the perfection of one's inner self or just another
piece in thier game of survival?  To see which human groupe is the
strongest?
	I am the almighty.  I am the truce.  I am the key of life.  I must
unlock the love in the human heart.  I am love.  I am the greatest love.  I
will win against power.  I will destroy hate.  I will perfect life.  I AM
THE ONE.  i am not a man.  You are not a woman.  We are human beings.
	Let go of your anger, your hate, your violence.  It makes them
stronger.  Clense your mind, your body, youe spirit.  Rid them of all
impurities.  You are only a pawn in thier game of survival.  Do not walk in
the shadows of your peers.  Be the light that shines upon them.  
	I am the gift of gods.  I am the voice of many.  I am the medium
between you and them.  I have seen your past.  I have seen my future.  I am
the prophet.  I am your guardian.  I am you.  You are me.  Togather we can
break the silence.  Gather your thoughts, for they are all you own.  Your
body, your actions are controlled by your government.  But your mind and
your heart are the last pure thing that they will never control.  Cherish
the freedom that you have yet to recieve.  YOUR BODY IS LOCKED IN CHAINS,
YOUR MIND IS BURIED IN A GARDEN.  WITH MY WATER, I SHALL HELP IT GROW.
	What is done can never be changed.  What is to come will never be
erased.  Live for the future, die for the present.  Your voice is your
weapon: it can create, it will destroy.
	Try to imagine peace, serenity, harmony, rhythm and happiness.  Now
enter capitalism and democracy, fascism and war.  Your human right to
succeed at you fullest and become wealthy is granted by you and your
society.  The fact that your wealth directs your mind to greed and power is
something granted only by you.  You have power to breath life into a dying
world.  But in turn you are powerful enough to destroy even yourself.
	Unpaved roads.  No help.  I am the one.  Society is jealous of me. 
They want me.  My knowledge.  What I have will be given to them in time. 
They shall not steal it away.




     

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>there was also something in there regarding park rave madness' "fantasia
>II" in nyc 7.6 (that flyer that is *bigger* than the ravestock flyer was :P
>*gag*

i have a "flyer" for fantasia. its a fuckintg poster, no joke. it flods in
four and is still about 11x14.

it way too big, but if nyc is anything like chicago(as far as promoting and
hype goes0 this doesnt surprize me.

christain /simple



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woohooo that rokked!

KC gets the post of the week!

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Fri Jun  7 09:00:38 1996
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>worth......hehehehe.....no actually in all seriousnous the psychedelic
>revolution has gone sooooo much further through a number of ways already
>long past what timothy leary could ever have created or imagined......one
>of my favorite people that deal with this subject, and has a lot more to do
>with the rave scene than timothy leary ever did, is Terence McKenna.  just
>my opinion......                                                       ed

The stuff that Mckenna and the rave scene are doing are built on the
foundation that Tim Leary and alot of others like Huxley and Borroughs
laid.  That is why Kurt used Tune In Turn On Drop Bass in the old school
days.  Leary was talking rave back in 1972 when the hippies were
busy looking backwards he was looking forward to a movement that
embraced technology.  He said the hippies were "all spaced out with
no place to go".  I think that Mckenna makes the same mistake when
he says the future lies in some kind of return to a communal past.
Mckenna is good but I think what is most appealing about him is that
he says that it is good to take psychadelics just like Tim encouraged
us to Turn On.  And then of course the Baba Ram Dass said that when
God is done talking hang up the phone.  What I wonder about in the
scene is why it has become fashionable to drop the Drop Out from
Tim's famous words of wisdom.  I mean if you really do Tune In and
Turn On you are going to Drop Out so why try to deny it?  Anyone who
stays true to a path of enlightenment will eventually become an outcast
from society.

Leary was the shit and if anybody wants to feel really good and get
their head full of ideas read any of his books.

Tune In Turn On Drop Out

And don't forget Rave Dope and Fucking In the Streets!

Mark Josef




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    >Timothy Leary is dead:
    >
    >Written by John Perry Barlow:
    >
    >A couple of hours ago, at 12:45 am Beverly Hills time, my old fri  end and
    >the corrupter of my youth Timothy Leary made good on his promise   to "give
    >death a better name or die trying." Willingly, peacefully, and un  afraid,
    >he headed off on his last trip.
    >
    >He spoke his last words a few hours before. On the phone to the m  ordant
    >William S. Burroughs he said, "I hope that someday I'm as funny a  s you
    >are."
    >
    >He didn't, as threatened, commit suicide on the Net. Or have his   head cut
    >off and frozen. Or engage in any other the other spectacles of de  parture
    >had dreaded. In the end, he surrounded himself with the angelic b  and of
    >twenty-somethings who have been uploading him into the Web these   last few
    >months and drifted peacefully out of here.
    >
    >I was headed his way when he died. When I was with him earlier th  is month
    >he said, "When I leave here, Barlow, I want your face to be one o  f the
    >last things I see." I think that was one of the sweetest things
anyone ever
    >said to me, and I was trying to make it possible, but death prove  d
itself once
    >again to be bigger and faster than either of us. The phone just r  ang in
    >the middle of this rainy Wyoming night, and now I'm here naked in   the dar
    >trying to think of something to follow him out with.
    >
    >Two years ago, Cynthia and I spent our last day together with Tim  my. When
    >she died the next day and it became so shockingly clear to both o  f us how
    >strange this culture has become on the subject of the second comm  onest
    >event in the world, how weirdly shameful is dying in America, we   both
    >thought it time to bring death out of the closet. I did so by gri  eving
    >her, and continuing to grieve her, more publicly than is polite i  n a
culture
    >that claims for itself the ability to conquer and control everyth  ing.
    >
    >But Timmy beat me to the barricades. He flat died. And he died, w  ithout
    >pretending that he was "really going to get well any day now," wi  thout
    >permitting himself to become a ghoulish and futile medical experi  ment,
    >without contributing to the stupefying mass denial that causes al  most 80%
    >of America's health care dollars to be blown on the last six mont  hs of
    >life.
    >
    >He died unashamed and having, as usual, a great time.
    >
    >A few weeks ago, the denizens of leary.com and I rented a phalanx   of whee
    >chairs and rode them with him into the House of Blues on Sunset S  trip, a
    >place that likely had never seen fifteen people in wheel chairs b  efore.
    >After a truly merry time, we were headed back to his house and on   the way
    >came within a smile of Tim Leary's Last Bust.
   >
   >We cruising west on Sunset. And the sun was setting. The top was    down on
   >my metallic mauve rent-a-convertible. A couple of the web girls,    Trudy an
   >Camilla, were sitting on the trunk like psychedelic prom queens,
   >shoop-de-booping to the funk station on the radio, volume at elev   en. Both
   >the girls were beautiful, Trudy like a character from Neuromancer   , Camill
   >like a character from Botticelli. The air was sweet and soft as a    neglige
   >on our faces, and the light had that elegiac quality that makes p   eople
   >think LA might not be so bad after all.
   >
   >Timmy gave me a high five and grinned. "Life is good!" he shouted    over th
   >music. As I looked up to meet his raised hand, I saw in my rear v   iew
   >mirror, past the swaying torsos of the girls, the rotating reds o   f a real
   >Beverly Hills cop.
   >
   >Of course we were in possession of several of those substances th   at we
   >considered safe and effective but which this culture, in another    of its
   >dangerous madnesses, has declared lethal, probably to distract he   at from
   >its own deadly drugs of choice. Furthermore, I had only recently    paid an
   >astonishingly steep California fine for allowing a friend to stan   d up
   >through the sunroof of a car I was driving.
   >
   >He pulled us over in front of the Beverly Hills Hotel. He looked    like an
   >Eagle Scout.
   >
   >"Officer," I said, nodding back at the still improperly seated gi   rls, "I
   >and we're trying to show him a good time." Timmy, without saying    anything
   >smiled sheepishly at the cop and nodded, caught in the act.
   >
   >He looked like hell but he sure looked happy.
   >
   >The officer gazed into Timmy's beatific skull-face and lost his s   tarch.
   >"Well," he said to the girls, "I'd be lying if I didn't say that    looks
   >like fun, but just because he's dying doesn't mean you should. No   w
get down in
   >the seat and buckle up and I'll let you go." I felt like honest d   eath had
   >just made one of its first converts.
   >
   >In thirty years of following Tim Leary around, he's given me some
   >wonderful and hair-raising moments. He has been father, anti-fath   er,
   >partner-in-crime, and devout fellow-worshipper of all that is fem   ale in
   >this world. We loved each other, and shared more memories than I    will eve
   >relate. But I think the look he gave that cop is the memory I wil   l cheris
   >most.
   >
   >As usual he was "cocking snooks at authority," as Aldous Huxley o   nce
   >accused him. But he was doing it, also as usual, with wit. And wi   th love.
   >
   >America managed to forgive Richard Nixon when he died. I hope the   y will
   >extend the same amnesty to a real hero, Dr. Timothy Leary.
   >
   >

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Did anyone go to communion on june 1st in fayeteville arkansas??

I heard it was simply a realllllllllllly *PHAT* party............

i was broke that weekend so i didn't go..if anyone went PLEASE do a
review of it..............

bluerazz@wsp1.wspice.com


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June 29th, 1996
Lexington KY
11p-?????
Cost::Nuttin''..it's FREE!!!!!!!!!


FOREVER
---------
2 rooms of groove plus a third for chillin'

DJS
----
Feelgood
Trevor Lamont
Goodwill
Craco-Saca(Live P.A.)
ChipB
Kell
Lary Breaks
Mutt
Damon
Madame Butterfly
Rhea
Binky
Troll
Jace
Xian

Sound By MAXXIMUM

Please come and help us celebrate the marriage of Bruce and Juliana.


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>As most people should know by now Timothy Leary died last thursday from
>prostate cancer. Since he was a supporter of what many Ravers most basic
>philosophies of life are all about. I was wondering if anyone would like to
>discuss the furthering of the psychedelic revolution.

What ever happened to him killing himself live on online?(not that i am in
a rush to see someone killethemself, its astupid thing to do, but i was
just wondering.)

simple



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08 JUNE Saturday                NASHVILLE, TN           ELECTRIC


We invite you to join us,
where, in our house, we're all
the same.  where the music
and the groove are just plain
smooth, and the vibe is

                    E    L    E    C    T    R    I    C

Saturday June 8, 1996 in Nasville, Tennessee

Bam and Lil' June presents ELECTRIC

Performing live DAJAE - Cajual Recording Artist (Chicago)

D.J.'s for the evening:

Mark Farina                          Paul Johnson
Red Nail/ Mushroom Jazz              Relief Records/ Chicago
San Fran/ Chicago                    Peacefrog Records/ UK
                                     Chicago

Miles Maeda                          Feelgood
World Stomper in Training            Buzz/ Fever/ Sunday Mass
San Diego/ Chicago                   Baltimore

Traxx                                Justin long
Liquid Sky Music/ Tweak Records      Liquid Sky Music/ Teamsters
Soul Foundation/ Teamsters/ HPS      Chicago
Chicago

Julio Bishop                         Trevor Lamont
Soul Foundation                      Erotic World, Soul Foundation
Chicago                              Lexington, Kentucky

Halo                                 Goodwill
Liquid Sky Music                     God's House Inc./ Dubtribe Tour
Chicago                              Delaware

Jeff Feller                          The Professor
aka Waxee/ Deep Grooves              Groovin'
St. Louis                            St. Louis

Dino                                 Sean O'Daniels
Extraordinary Soul                   Red Square/ Fantasia Resident D.J.
St. Louis                            Memphis

Sprout
BAM
Nashville

Lighting by ACTIVE (Atlanta)

Sound by MAXXIMUM (Louisville)

Visuals by OPTIMYSTIQ (Nashville)

Freaky Fashions with Dita & Diva & Crew/ Hair by Kiley

Positives vibes out to Merlin and Monroe - Keep the faith

FREE AFTERHOURS PARTY Sunday June 9
   The after-party will begin immediately after the main event, and go 
all
day, into the afternoon.  It will take place in a beautiful outdoor 
space
with lots of grass and trees to play in.  Plan to come and spend the 
day.
It promises to be a grand event all it's own.  Bring your picnic basket,
blanket, and your shades.  Come hang out, chill, and enjoy the afternoon
of music, fun in the sun, friends, and surprises that we have planned 
for
you, all in beautiful surroundings.  This should be a day to remember.

   Let's give people a reason to remember this movement, OUR movement.
What it means to us right now, at this time in our lives.  How it can 
and
already does affect the way we live.  Let's make it positive.

Main info line  615-780-3730

Crash space available at Southern Fried Funk  call 615-320-8893

Call your local info line for local info.
 Peace and Love

-- 
 
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
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 House is a feeling!!!     I love that feeling!!!     It's for love!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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hey kids, does anyone have either direx or the info-line
number for liberty tomorrow in nyc?  if you could post it
or send it personal-like it would greatly help a brother
out...

peace,
darrik


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Dustin B Bowman <dbbowman@piper.hamline.edu> said...
> 
> You can get a new one for 379 at funk-o-mart in Philly.

Yes, but:

	1) does it have a cartridge?
	2) S&H is LARGE for a 1200; they weigh a ton


The best deal on a /new/ one is still BestBuy (surprisingly).


- stevenJ
http://hyperreal.com/~stevenj/

Occupied America

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>---
>anyone here ever used novation bassstation??? they said it emulates the
>303....any truth in that? its way cheaper, thats for sure!!
>
>jest (tag)
>dove (dj)
>john (real)
>

ive heard of it. it is supost to. im not a 303 expert by anymeans, but i
heard sample of it and other so called 303 emulators on a 303 web page. i
dont knwo the adress, but im sure if you searce for --->roland<-- on the
www you should be able to find the page.
christian /simple



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Point well taken, the same could be said about most drugs. And anyone who
says different has been the victim of the anti-drugs propoganda machine.


could you imagine if alcohol was legal?

you go to your nearest convenience store, pick up a bag of pretzels, a pack
of camels, a dozen trojans ribbed, and a 24 pack of some really cheap beer.

there's a warning label on it that reads:

warning: (1) alcohol may cause permanent brain damage, cirrhosis of the
liver, birth defects in pregnant women, and may make you fat. (2) alcohol
impairs your ability to drive and operate machinery, and shuts down your
higher brain function in general which may cause you to do some really
stupid things.

but of course you say: "beer!" and pay the guy at the counter who is looking
forward to going home and getting wasted later that night.

on the way home you swerve out of the way of a red neck drunk off his ass
and trying to keep his eyes open. the whole time thinking to himself he is
prefectly ok to drive, and of course those higher brain functions aren't
there to argue with him. 

you come home and your parents are drunk off their asses too. your mom is
crouched up in the corner with her head in her hands. you hear her sobs and
her sporadic breathing. her drinking started at 5:30 when she had a bad day
at work, and wanted to take a load off. she sunk deeper into her depression,
and was joined in drunkedness 2 hours later by your father, who now stands
above your mother having just placed a large bruise on her face. you father
yells at you in with rage and asks you what the hell you're looking at. you
ask your father why your mother is crying, and he comes at you with a his fist.

you easily dodge your father and he stumbles to the floor and mumbles about
how he's going to get you. you run upstairs and leave your father to pass
out on the floor. you go to the bathroom to find your sister resting her
head on the toilet bowl. she too is drunk, and just decorated the toilet
with her stomach contents. she too is crying, because her boyfriend had sex
with her earlier in the night, but without really asking her. he was drunk too.

i could go on, but i think you all get the picture now. it's not a very
pretty picture. 

it's reality.

i would much rather be disgusted at the sight of seeing my parents hugging
and rubbing each other and laugh my ass off at my sister smiling and having
a blast with something is simple as a few rolls of toilet paper, all of them
rolling their asses off, than to ever experience the situation i described
above. i'm not saying e should be legal, but i really find it sadly
ridiculous that e is illegal while alcohol is not.

-kc


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Hmm... more and more my best experiences are happening
at small club nights, rather than "raves."

Take last night, for example.  Astralwerks got together
with Tribe 9 and turned their weekly event at the
Shelter into a record release party for the new
comp "Detroit: Beyond the Third Wave."

The short version -- a $3 cover, two cool live PA's
(Ectomorph & Sean Deason), headliner DJs
(Claude Young, Kelli Hand, DJT1000, Will Web) 
free cheese  & crackers, no shady dealers [or the 15-year olds
who follow them around like puppies], etc.

Like the Planet E/Sardine Bar thing from a few weeks
back, it was an opportunity to hang with friends
and check out some incredible music, away
from the 10K light-rigs and fashion shows
(although, to be sure, there were some people
sporting some _wild_ threads.)

Of course, having to come to work a few hours later
is a little rough...

   -d.w.
    old man walking






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E-mail us the list of DJs you wish to see at IO3.
<maxximum@msn.com>
thanks in advance

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Steven J White wrote:
> 
> Dustin B Bowman <dbbowman@piper.hamline.edu> said...
> >
> > You can get a new one for 379 at funk-o-mart in Philly.
> 
> Yes, but:
> 
>         1) does it have a cartridge?
>         2) S&H is LARGE for a 1200; they weigh a ton
> 
> The best deal on a /new/ one is still BestBuy (surprisingly).
> 
> - stevenJ
> http://hyperreal.com/~stevenj/
> 
> Occupied America


Surprisingly you can get a cartridge with them.  I'm from the 
Philadelphia area and the way all the stores in that area (Market and 
Chestnut Streets in Philly) work is they let you haggle.  If you know 
how to haggle you can get turntables or any electronic equipment in 
Philly for almost nothing.  I once got 2 turntables with Stanton 
cartridges and spare cartridges for about $700.00.  If you can haggle it 
can be done.  

PS - Haggling can only really be effective in person, so if you are 
planing to mail order expect to pay close to regular price.
-- 
 
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
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From: "Hai Tek" <DirtMcGurt@msn.com>
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Has anyone in Chicago seen that new Jeff Mills CD "live at the liquid room in 
Tokyo"
if you have lemme know coz i cant find it nowhere.

Hai Tek

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>
>i have a "flyer" for fantasia. its a fuckintg poster, no joke. it
>flods<---er.folds, not flods.

>christain /simple



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does anyone still have the address for the sight that was gona have the
live broadcast?

christian
aka
simple



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Sorry Dave but I would have to disagree with you on this one.  I had a good
time and the release party and the dj's were really good.  But i'm sorry, a
club does not create the same vibe that a rave does.  I would never decide to
go to a club over a rave party.

The club lacks more than just vibe, but the sound and atmosphere isn't as good
either.  The music is too quite, i could talk to my friend without even having
to raise my voice and i was really close to the speakers.  Sorry but techno
music is ment to be played at high level.  The only time the sound got kickin
was with the live PA's.

I'm not saying i didn't have a good time, i did.  It was a good night out for a
thursday night and shows that clubs can make a profit without having to sell
out to the world cheese.  I just can't have a better time at a club than a
rave.


Peace, Love, and Lollipops

joff

joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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internet radio rules!
christian



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just a reminder...for those not going to nashville..

kool & menace productions present
CLOUD 99

Saturday June 8th

DJs
---
EFEX <the assailant>
3D <uptempo>
SNUGGLES & SLAK <strictly jungle>
MYSTIC BILL <hps>
KEOI <acid mentor>

and added to the bill...

TRAXX <hps>
&
DAVEY DAVE <hps>

info line:
(312) 409-1470




-julian
dj.casper

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>Has anyone in Chicago seen that new Jeff Mills CD "live at the liquid room in
>Tokyo"
>if you have lemme know coz i cant find it nowhere.
>
>Hai Tek

yeah me too

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

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>christian matts wrote:
>>
>> does anyone still have the address for the sight that was gona have the
>> live broadcast?
>
>http://www.beatbox.com
>
>dont know if this is the one youre looking for, but its all
>live.
>started live last sunday, will be a weekly occurance every
>sunday for now, will post to lists with line-ups w/in 48hrs of
>transmission.
>
>hopefully see you there :)

thanks alot.

christian



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>i furthered the psychedelic revolution last night......about 4 hits worth

Hehehe...

Okay... free-flow Randy-rambling here... bear with me...

MJ said:
>I think that Mckenna makes the same mistake when
>he says the future lies in some kind of return to a communal past.

I think McKenna is dead-on right when he says the way to the future is
through the past.  Such is the ebb and flow of the universe.  Expand,
contract.  Upon contracting, it passes through the same points it hit in
the past while it was expanding.  (Am I making any sense?  It's kinda hard
to put in words...)

One of the ways in which this statement about the way to the future being
through the past stands out in my mind, is that we need to remember and
rediscover what happened in our past in order to survive and move forward
into the future, especially since so much of our very very important and
significant past has been hidden by the established modes of control.  Plus
we need to process and move through the feelings that are stored in our
stellar-cellular genetic matrix.

Here's a very basic example of that processing... during the last Age of
Leo from 10,800 to 8640 B.C. was the Younger Dryas ice age and pole
shift... or so the carbon dating says, anyways.  Very traumatic for Earth
human culture... we are still processing the fear lurking in our primal
minds that is sourced in events from that catastrophic phase.  We have gone
through these cycles over and over, and in the process we've picked up a
lot of... karmic baggage, I'll call it, which we are *still* collectively
dealing with to this day.  As we move into the opposite age (of Aquarius),
we are apprehensive, and you'll notice there's already a renewed fear
around the millennium about natural catastrophy.  We need to walk through
these lingering fears from the past in order to move forward into the
future, 'cuz natural catastrophy seems to be a regular cycle on this
planet... so it is in our past, yet almost inevitably in our future, too.
But... I'm sure this is a rather nebulous example for most of you, since
you don't care to take your infinite consciousness back beyond the 20 or so
years you've been in this body, and you're probably thinking, "Uh, yeah,
okay, sure Randy... why don'tcha go smoke a couple more to yer head..."  ;)

So... here's another example, maybe more digestable.  We need to remember
and understand what kind of corruption, genetic experimentation, wars,
elitism, and misuse of natural energies took place in previous
technologically-advanced cultures on this planet lest we create some of the
same self-destructive scenarios all over again.  The knowledge from these
previous cultures is resurfacing all around us every day... therefore we
need to walk through these past issues and memories in order to move
forward into the future.

We already are going through the past in order to reach the future!  Has
anyone noticed a renewed interest in crystals?  (Which is not new age hocus
pocus, folks... look at what's powering our computer technology... and
*finally* the medical community is starting to understand the healing
properties.)  Or a renewed interest in magnetics and the energetic grids
around this planet?  (Which were used in the past for healing and
transportation.)  Has anyone noticed a renewed interest in the knowledge of
ancient cultures and indigenous peoples such as the Mayan and Native
American?  Anyone noticed a renewed interest in shamanism?  (<cough, ahem>,
a good dj = urban shaman... but I hope y'all won't go and exploit that
expression or let ego take hold of it...)  Anyone noticed a renewed
interest in ancient natural healing techniques as we move away from
allopathic nonsense?  This is all from our past... yet there are the very
things which will take us into the future.

Consider the population explosion on Earth.  At the rate the population is
growing, we will easily overcrowd the planet, and at the rate we're going
with our pollution, Earth won't be able to sustain our species anyways.  It
is absolutely 100% inevitable that something must happen in order for our
species to continue here.  (Unless we decide to leave the planet and go
plunder other planets like we plundered Earth, but I don't think the
inhabitants of any other planet would welcome our pathetic species 'til we
evolve our consciousness a little more.)  So, be it mass disease or major
natural disaster or whatever... something always comes along according to
natural cycles to shake things up, it's like clockwork.  Think that'll
bring us back to a more communal existence as in the past?  Absolutely.
When things are shaken up that much, we *have* to exist in communal
situations in order to stay alive and rebuild everything... it's repeatedly
happened in the past, why wouldn't it happen again in the future?  Those
are the cycles.

Of course, there's always the body-piercing stuff as brought up in
McKenna's "The Archaic Revival" and "Alien Dreamtime", but you've heard
that before...

And imagine that... the younger generation these days derives satisfaction
from coming together and dancing ecstatically all night to pulsating
shamanic rhythms.  Tell me we're not moving through the past.  ;)
(Granted, people have always been dancing in our "modern" culture...
squaredancing, jazz clubs, etc... but not quite like this, and not in such
a shamanic context with such a high degree of spiritual freedom.)  Even our
rave future -- which most of us can feel is something very special -- is
rooted in the past.

Also:
>Anyone who stays true to a path of enlightenment will
>eventually become an outcast from society.

I disagree.  While that may be true in some cases, that is not absolute
truth.  (In a weird way, that reminds me of the myth propagated by many
organized religions that one must suffer in order to be spiritual.)  I know
plenty of people who are truly on a path of enlightenment and function
within this twisted society.  It's a delicate balancing act, and they
certainly don't like this society, but they're not outcasts.  In any
case... I put it to you that at this point in Earth's evolution, anyone who
stays true to a path of enlightenment will not be outcasts, rather, *they
will be the ones who build a new society*, and the unenlightened souls will
become the outcasts.

Past, future, hehe, fuck it, linear time's just a 3rd-dimensional illusion
anyways... THERE IS ONLY NOW!  :)  Be here, in the eternal now moment, and
enjoy... "Let us not look back in anger, nor forward in fear, but around in
awareness."

           Smiles & Rainbows,
       Leapin' 'tween Dimensions,

                Randy
                 a d
                  n
                 a d
                Randy

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so am i the only one going to cloud 99 in chi?

look for me ill be the boy with the hair & clothes

peaceyall

d

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Okay, anyone that wants to go to summer daze in minneapolis tomorrow but 
doesn't have a ride, I currently have 3 or 4 open spaces in my car.  I'll 
be at a house in St. Paul in the midway area that evening- if you're 
around there or anywhere that's not far out of my way, I'd be glad to 
pick you up.  Just give me a call, preferably before about 6:00pm- my 
number's 559-4695.  If I'm not there, just leave a message and hopefully 
I'll get back to you quickly!

peace,

chris e.


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>ive heard of it. it is supost to. im not a 303 expert by anymeans, but i
>heard sample of it and other so called 303 emulators on a 303 web page. i
>dont knwo the adress, but im sure if you searce for --->roland<-- on the
>www you should be able to find the page.
>christian /simple

its on http://www.infomaniak.ch/~trz/TB-303/tb303.htm


bye
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I was very pleasantly surprised by Juice!  In a club, but it sure felt like
a rave.  I didn't really enjoy the music all that much -- x-cept for
Micro's set, which was x-tra groovy! -- but there was so much there to make
up for the music.  This was the first time I could overlook the music and
still have a good time.  First time I could overlook a crowded dancefloor,
too... I *hate* crowded dancefloors!  Generally, music I don't dig and no
room to dance means a bad time for me... but not Juice.  I left there with
a good feeling.

We walked into this place and the lights... wow, the lights!!  What a neat
little club.  It would be perfect if it wasn't so crowded.  We got there
early, and I danced a bit to a mediocre set while there still weren't many
people on the dancefloor.  The way the lights are, ya feel lost in a sea of
frequencies on that floor, sonic and visual.  Anyways... I didn't dance
much to that set 'cuz I was waiting for Terry Mullan to come on.  Turns
out, several people told me, that *was* Terry Mullan -- doh!  I was
disappointed, and I heard there were some words amongst the crowd that it
just didn't sound like Terry.  <shrug>  I have the utmost respect for him,
'cuz I *know* he can tear shit up hard and he totally kicked my ass on the
dancefloor at Cupid -- one of the best sets I've ever heard -- but... hm,
oh well, maybe next time.  There was some cool shit, just not anywhere near
the level of intensity I know he's capable of.  Next was Micro... had never
heard of this NY dude before... he was the high point of my night!  Good
tunes.  Wasn't too moved by the rest of the evening from there.

But never mind the music.  The most amazing thing happened -- there was a
VIBE at this party!!  No, seriously!  :)  I'm in a little bit of shock
here... this is the first time I've felt that at a Chicago party... NOT to
cut on Chicago, perhaps I just wasn't hitting the right parties before...
but yeah, vibe.  People were coming up to me and talking to me and bein'
nice and shit... lotsa smiles... good vibe pockets on the dancefloor... and
there was soooo much hugging going on!  There was even one point where I
was sitting against a wall taking a rest, kinda dozing off, and a dude came
up to me and asked if I was okay, he wanted to make sure everything was
cool since I probably looked like I was sick, or tripped out, or something.
Now THAT's the type of thing I like to see... people looking out for each
other!

Oh yeah, hehe, and then there was the couple fucking on the floor in the
corner.  Gosh, those crazy kids.  ;)  I'd never seen anybody who was
rolling hard fuck before... what an educational experience... hmm, kinda
sold me on the idea, though.  :D  Pretty intense... I thought they were
gonna melt into one!  (Now tell me that wouldn't be trippy to see, hehe...)

Okay, before I close, it wouldn't be a Randy-review without a question
about either "which dj..." or "what song..."  There's this one song that I
keep hearing and I'm dying to know what it is.  It was the very last song
of the evening at Juice, which Acquaviva spun... and it was in Micro's set,
too, so ya probably heard it twice if you were there.  First time I heard
it was at the Mifflin warehouse party in Madison, I believe Peterbilt spun
it, then either Peterbilt or Efex spun it at Earthquake in Maddy last week.
Very high energy... there's this cool conga part which starts early on in
the song... then there's a sampled male voice which says something like
"Everything is [something] to the beat", and then it explodes into a looped
4-beat electric guitar riff groove.  It's the guitar riff that stands out
in this song.  And there's a bass note suspended for 4 beats, alternating
with 4 beats of rest.  Sorry, that's the best I can describe it, but I have
a feeling this must be a popular rave song, since I'm hearing it so much
now, so I'm hoping someone will recognize it.  Wow, this song has so much
e.n.e.r.g.y.......

Would I go back to another Juice?  Sure!  'specially with Efex next time!  :)

       Have a Smurfy Day,

             Randy
              a d
               n
              a d
             Randy

osiris7@cris.com
======= ======= =======
Hey wait a minute, those aren't images
of sugar plums dancing in my head!  ;>
======= ======= =======



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>>I was very pleasantly surprised by Juice!  In a club, but it sure felt like
>>a rave.  I didn't really enjoy the music all that much -- x-cept for
>>Micro's set, which was x-tra groovy! -- but there was so much there to make
>>up for the music.  This was the first time I could overlook the music and
>>still have a good time.  First time I could overlook a crowded dancefloor,
>>too... I *hate* crowded dancefloors!  Generally, music I don't dig and no
>>room to dance means a bad time for me... but not Juice.  I left there with
>>a good feeling.
>>
>>We walked into this place and the lights... wow, the lights!!  What a neat
>>little club.  It would be perfect if it wasn't so crowded.  We got there
>>early, and I danced a bit to a mediocre set while there still weren't many
>>people on the dancefloor.  The way the lights are, ya feel lost in a sea of
>>frequencies on that floor, sonic and visual.  Anyways... I didn't dance
>>much to that set 'cuz I was waiting for Terry Mullan to come on.  Turns
>>out, several people told me, that *was* Terry Mullan -- doh!  I was
>>disappointed, and I heard there were some words amongst the crowd that it
>>just didn't sound like Terry.  <shrug>  I have the utmost respect for him,
>>'cuz I *know* he can tear shit up hard and he totally kicked my ass on the
>>dancefloor at Cupid -- one of the best sets I've ever heard -- but... hm,
>>oh well, maybe next time.  There was some cool shit, just not anywhere near
>>the level of intensity I know he's capable of.  Next was Micro... had never
>>heard of this NY dude before... he was the high point of my night!  Good
>>tunes.  Wasn't too moved by the rest of the evening from there.
>>
>>But never mind the music.  The most amazing thing happened -- there was a
>>VIBE at this party!!  No, seriously!  :)  I'm in a little bit of shock
>>here... this is the first time I've felt that at a Chicago party... NOT to
>>cut on Chicago, perhaps I just wasn't hitting the right parties before...
>>but yeah, vibe.  People were coming up to me and talking to me and bein'
>>nice and shit... lotsa smiles... good vibe pockets on the dancefloor... and
>>there was soooo much hugging going on!  There was even one point where I
>>was sitting against a wall taking a rest, kinda dozing off, and a dude came
>>up to me and asked if I was okay, he wanted to make sure everything was
>>cool since I probably looked like I was sick, or tripped out, or something.
>>Now THAT's the type of thing I like to see... people looking out for each
>>other!
>>
>>Oh yeah, hehe, and then there was the couple fucking on the floor in the
>>corner.  Gosh, those crazy kids.  ;)  I'd never seen anybody who was
>>rolling hard fuck before... what an educational experience... hmm, kinda
>>sold me on the idea, though.  :D  Pretty intense... I thought they were
>>gonna melt into one!  (Now tell me that wouldn't be trippy to see, hehe...)
>>
>>Okay, before I close, it wouldn't be a Randy-review without a question
>>about either "which dj..." or "what song..."  There's this one song that I
>>keep hearing and I'm dying to know what it is.  It was the very last song
>>of the evening at Juice, which Acquaviva spun... and it was in Micro's set,
>>too, so ya probably heard it twice if you were there.  First time I heard
>>it was at the Mifflin warehouse party in Madison, I believe Peterbilt spun
>>it, then either Peterbilt or Efex spun it at Earthquake in Maddy last week.
>>Very high energy... there's this cool conga part which starts early on in
>>the song... then there's a sampled male voice which says something like
>>"Everything is [something] to the beat", and then it explodes into a looped
>>4-beat electric guitar riff groove.  It's the guitar riff that stands out
>>in this song.  And there's a bass note suspended for 4 beats, alternating
>>with 4 beats of rest.  Sorry, that's the best I can describe it, but I have
>>a feeling this must be a popular rave song, since I'm hearing it so much
>>now, so I'm hoping someone will recognize it.  Wow, this song has so much
>>e.n.e.r.g.y.......
>>
>>Would I go back to another Juice?  Sure!  'specially with Efex next time!  :)
>>
>>       Have a Smurfy Day,
>>
>>             Randy
>>              a d
>>               n
>>              a d
>>             Randy
>>
>>osiris7@cris.com
>>======= ======= =======
>>Hey wait a minute, those aren't images
>>of sugar plums dancing in my head!  ;>
>>======= ======= =======
>>
>>
>>       Randy- the song you are talking about is by Basco and it's called
>"The Beat is Over" on Pssst
>music.  I think it may already be out of print.
>          Anyway this is my first post to the mwraves newsgroup, so I'd like
>to give a shot out to everybody.  Netravers understand what the scene really
>should be in  a much better way than non-netravers. I've only been going to
>parties for a year now, and i love the music, but i'm really not sure if i
>like parties or am cut out to be a "party person."  i look for a vibe
>everywhere, but it is so elusive.  i can usually only form small tight vibes
>between just a few people.  oh well.  If any of you have the FreeBass
>Collective zine put out at EF there is a great article in there entitled
>"Raver Friendly, My Ass" that does a good job communicating the feeling that
>i have about parties.  i would type it and forward it, but i'm too lazy ;~).
>well l8r kids.
>                                                                            
>            -Marc
>aka cybermonk from vrave
>
>
>oh and about those people fucking-  grrrr-ossss!! =D  ps.-  anybody have
any opinions regarding the MTX 1550 mixer, i am considering purchasing it.
and pss.-   i prolly wont be going to many parties this summer due to my
financial priorities, but if any of you go to either UFO or Vanishing Point
in madtown i would very much like to meet you! =).  i will always be wearing
my handy-dandy vrave necklace i received at EF, so look for me =).


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On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, David Michael Sisson wrote:

> so am i the only one going to cloud 99 in chi?
> look for me ill be the boy with the hair & clothes
> peaceyall
> d
> 

cool, now people can pick you out over all the hairless naked boys there
:)


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Matthew Carl Joffe <joffemat@pilot.msu.edu> said:

:Sorry Dave but I would have to disagree with you on this one.  I had a
good
:time and the release party and the dj's were really good.  But i'm sorry,
a
:club does not create the same vibe that a rave does.  I would never decide
to
:go to a club over a rave party.

That's why we discuss things -- so we can agree to disagree. :)

:I'm not saying i didn't have a good time, i did.  It was a good night out
for a
:thursday night and shows that clubs can make a profit without having to
sell
:out to the world cheese.  I just can't have a better time at a club than a
:rave.

There was a time a few years ago when I would have agreed with you,
perhaps it's just me being a different age now or whatever, but
I'm bored with the extracurriculars at "raves" these days -- the
fashion, the drugged teenagers, etc.  I'm willing to sacrifice a bit 
(music volume, trippy atmosphere, etc.) in exchange for the things 
that I'm really going out for -- the music (PA's and DJ's), a chance
to enjoy the music I love with friends, etc.  It sucks that
club nights have to end at 2AM or whatever, and the sound
is often not as nice, etc.  But the old misgivings I used to have about
clubs (i.e. the meat market aspect, the constant emphasis on
drinking) seem to diminish when someone who cares about the
music (e.g. Ariel at Tribe 9 [Soundlab #9] or Meredith at
Planet E [Sardine Bar]) is running the event.  I saw people at
the Astralwerks party at the Sardine Bar who never go to
raves anymore.  That, to me, is a positive thing.  The idea that
techno is strictly for raves is absurd, and I'm glad that the people
who make the music have finally started doing something about it.

  -d.w.




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>>          Anyway this is my first post to the mwraves newsgroup, so I'd like
>>to give a shot out to everybody.  Netravers understand what the scene really
>>should be in  a much better way than non-netravers. I've only been going to
>>parties for a year now, and i love the music, but i'm really not sure if i
>>like parties or am cut out to be a "party person."  i look for a vibe
>>everywhere, but it is so elusive.  i can usually only form small tight vibes
>>between just a few people.  oh well.  If any of you have the FreeBass
>>Collective zine put out at EF there is a great article in there entitled
>>"Raver Friendly, My Ass" that does a good job communicating the feeling that
>>i have about parties.  i would type it and forward it, but i'm too lazy ;~).
>>well l8r kids.


the FreeBass Collective zine is scanned in on the FreeBass website at
http://www.execpc.com/~blitz, but some of the scans are kinda hard to read
so it has info there on how to request one by snail mail

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I've never walked away from a party so miserably depressed and revulsed in
my life.

I was so psyched about this, tho my gut was telling me otherwise, I was so
psyched to see Green Velvet and djRush, as well as Lego and Diz (and,
please, when I say I was psyched it doesn't mean that I idolize nor worship
these people - it means that I enjoy their music quite a bit.  It's not my
favorite house muzik by any stretch of the old brain, so please no flames!).

The space sucked.  Hockey rinks blow.  You couldn't smoke inside, the
gestapo was working security, etc.  I got in and out (you could smoke
outside) of the party 4 f*cking times without ever handing anyone my ticket
- and had I known that would have worked, I wouldn't have paid for a
goddamned ticket in the first place cuz this party certainly wasn't worth 3
bucks, let alone fucking 18.

Anyways, the sound system was like a Kraco car stereo turned up to the max.
Distortion and mostly bass and it sounded just like complete fucking shit.

The lights, ewwwww 24 spot lights.  For 18 bucks I want to see something on
the magnitude of God holding a lighter to his ass while floating major air
biscuits.

The deejays.  Lego was on when I got there.  He was fairly awright from wait
I could discern through the distortion.  Then Cajmere got on and was fucking
up left and right.  We left as he was ending because we couldn't stand it
anymore.

Some other wackness ... they were kicking out people under the age of 18
because of curfew laws.  My GUESS, MY GUESS, is that Encore, MSM and Erotic
World KNEW ABOUT THIS WHEN BOOKING THE SPACE AND THE COPS.  Why the fuck
wasn't anything said at the map point, why the hell did they sell tickets to
kids under 18?

The whole night was just shit.  Encore, MSM and Erotic World (E-Wrecked) are
now on my list of promoters to avoid and spit on when possible.  These
people don't give a fuck about the scene, that was clear as hell tonight.
All the fucking care about is lining their pockets with our money and it's
just fucking not right.

What really sucks about this is that I found a person who made parties fun
again for me.  I was going to give the shit up after furthur, but this
person really helped me to have fun and has become part of our little
family.  But, now she's turned off of minneapolis parties.  She doesn't want
to go to anything coming up if she has to pay more than 12 bucks for it.  

The flyer talks about respect and love and unity and all I have to say is
that that's a pile of shit.  People have to stop confusing RESPECT WITH ASS
KISSING.  
That's that.  All I have to say is that if you were planning on coming to
minneapolis for any encore, msm or e-wrecked party, find elsewhere to go
because it will all be a big fucking disappointment.

I hope everyone else had a better evening.

earache

PS. You all should come for any U-80, Chernobyl Farms, Ecstatic Muzik
parties coming up because these people have hearts of gold and want the best
for the scene and aren't a bunch of fashion posing shitheads like Encore,
MSM and related.

PSS. Flame away, forward this to whoever you want, whatever.

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The following is the e-version of the pre-pre-flyer for Age of Aquarius.
Aquarius is 2 things: a celebration for the final release of tekknoBOX and
an attempt at taking the party thing in a new direction.  The flyer was a
3.5x11 xerox flyer:


                       inneraktive nettwerx presents

                   A G E    O F    A  Q  U  A  R  I  U  S

           a celebration of life, love and music the aquarian way

                         MINNEAPOLIS - 09.21.96

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Freedom.  Family.  Love.  Happiness.  Escape. 

These are all the outcomes of our shared experience as we gather together to
share a space in darkness and to get lost in our beautiful, simply complex
music.  For some it's a chance for inner voyage.  For others, it's a chance
to find and experience family in a society that hasn't time for that.  And,
for others still, it's a chance to break free from the massive bondage of
mass culture and to experience a taste of complete intellectual and
spiritual freedom.

The music is a carrier wave that transports us, as a whole, to whatever
level we choose to explore.  The space that we inhabit for those short hours
can be anything we want it to be, with the application of imagination and
creativity.  The lights and the film loops  add and enhance the surreality
of the surroundings, making it easier for us to escape into ourselves, or
out of ourselves - and to, finally, fully grasp at that greater sense of
freedom that gives us hope about life and related things.

Sadly, the magic described above happens rarely anymore.  Once in awhile,
there is a glint of it - and on rare occasion it is every where at a party.
We're putting together Aquarius to bring back that magic, to make an event,
a space, a time that people will remember, and remember fondly.  This party
isn't about hype, it isn't about attitude or fashion or VIP rooms.  It's
about a return of the good solid vibe, the stronge sense of family and that
funked out magic which propels us to keep on going on.

We'll provide the space, the music, the atmosphere - but we need you to
bring the magic.  All of the things that we'll provide for you is so
secondary to what you can contribute to the benefit of everyone who attends
- attitudes and egos won't have a home at Aquarius, as we're about freedom
of mind and not the bondage of spirit.  Attitudes and egos only close off
the endless possibilities of experience.

We'd like to thank Chernobyl Farms and Ecstatic Musik for putting together
parties that infuse that same sense.  We'd also like to thank all the people
over the last year who have put together small house parties and events that
promote good music, good vibes and the glue that keeps us together and
moving forward.  Also to the party cultures of cities like Madison and
Milwaukee for providing an excellent example that the magic still exists
somewhere.

Look for more information on Aquarius in the following month, including the
line-up of performers and deejays.  We can tell you to expect an evening
filled with minimal detroit tekkno, deep soulful chicago house and
intelligent spacey jungle.  All the elements of a good voyage.


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Well, I wasn't as turned off as earache on this party.  I actually had a 
very good time.  The music was nothing to write home about, in fact the 
music was really quite bad.  But I got more smiles and hugs and people 
being really friendly to me than ever before.  So I really enjoyed 
myself.  Everything about the party was sub-standard, and it definitely 
wasn't worth 18 bucks, but I still had a great time.  Personally, I love 
hockey rinks as spaces.  The floor is nice and big, and you can go up 
into the bleachers and look out over the whole party.  I also discovered 
a new activity to participate in at parties: handing out fliers.  I 
passed out fliers for Wonderland (U80, june 29th) and for Clinton's 
weekday club thing, reFRESHed.  People seem to love getting fliers, and I 
got lots of smiles and hugs, and I met a _LOT_ of people when I was 
handing out fliers.  So if anyone out there needs a flier hander-outer, 
I'd love to do it, just let me know.

So in conclusion, super-ultra props go out to John from St. Thomas for 
buying me a whole tank of gas!  And also props to 90.3 KFAI for the 
cool-ass ambient show that I listened to on the way home.  And props to 
my pal clarence, and to Dustin from U80, and Clinton, and anyone else who 
I met.  I'll be at first ave tonight, handing out wonderland fliers at 
the end of the night.  If you're there, say hi to me!

BTW, anyone else think that the "Phoenix" flier is about 100 times bigger 
than it needs to be??

I'll definitely be at bubbilicious and reFRESHed this week and 
wonderland, and most likely every other minneapolis party this summer.  

take care everyone,

chris e


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I will agree with Chris that there was quite a good vibe outside, the 4
times I was out there.  Aktually, 3 out of the 4 times I was out there.  But
nothing incredible :(

earache

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  9 10:01:13 1996
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I decided NOT to go at the LAST minute--sorry SU--but out of curiosoity, how 
many ppl were there??

  



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WE ARE BACK....

our return transmission begins...
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CIB Productions on Friday June 14th in Central Wisconsin present:

                   H    H     OO     U     U    SSS   EEEEE
                   H    H    O  O    U     U   S   S  E
                   H    H   O    O   U     U  S       E
                   H    H  O      O  U     U   S      E
                   HHHHHH  O      O  U     U    SSS   EEE
                   H    H  O      O  U     U       S  E
                   H    H   O    O   U     U        S E
                   H    H    O  O     U   UU   S   S  E
                   H    H     OO       UUU U    SSS   EEEEEE

                         CCC      AAA     L         L
                        C   C    A   A    L         L
                       C        A     A   L         L
                       C       AAAAAAAAA  L         L
                       C       A       A  L         L
                       C       A       A  L         L
                       C       A       A  L         L
                        C   C  A       A  L         L
                         CCC   A       A  LLLLLLLL  LLLLLLLLL



DJ's include:

Earth         Minneapolis
MellowMan     Cinncinati
Mindrive      Madison
DJ Slip       Minneapolis
Quasar        Milwaukee

Super Video Disc-o-rama by Demon Puppet Visuals a.k.a. Brain Farm
Smart Bar by Rom Labs

Info Line 414.256.1350
or e-mail blitz@execpc.com
This party is supported by The FreeBass Collective

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
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                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  9 16:12:56 1996
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well, as far as I know, this party isn't on the calendar yet, so I 
thought I'd post it for people.  I am not in any way associated with NUG 
Amusement, I'm just posting this for the benefit of everyone on this list.

July 13, 1996
Minneapolis MN
NUG Amusement presents:
PHOENIX

Featuring DJs:

Juan Atkins - Metroplex Records/Detroit
DRC- San Francisco Cali.
Gene Farris- Force Inc, Relief, Daisy, Erotic World/Minneapolis
DJ Dazy- Portland Oregon
Monte Hilleman- MSM, Minneapolis
Jeff Feller- Deep Grooves, St. Louis
Cat in the Hat- NUG amusement, Minneapolis

Regional Info Lines:
Minneapolis: NUG Amusement 612.649-4708 (presale ticket info)
Chicago: Vibe Alive 312.604-1676
St. Louis: Dialeighted 314.567-2097
Nashville: BAM 615.780-3730

NOTE: the flier for this event is as big as any chicago flier i've seen: 
11x17 (I think) with with silly robo-anime graphics on both sides


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hay anyone know how to contact wallace winfrey from columbia, MO?

help!

earache
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  9 17:19:39 1996
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tee hee, actually KC would get the "biters post of the week"

ugh, i guess forgot to post the disclamer figuring the list had
a sense of humor...stevie's  past history of posting really funny
stuff that people just don't get or take too seriously...the lords
of acid post...the yo mama jokes...etc...actually it was based on
this really bad dream i had after finally coming down & going into
a deep sleep after a party a long time ago.

welp it wuz a keen way to figure out who the pro-druggers are on
the list...stevie waves to the cops that check the internet.

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ed sed:
================================================================= 
collective intelligence presents and impromptu event

@ virtual overdrive, corner of 9th ave and high st in columbus ohio

featuring TREPP - dayton traxxmaster
          BREAKDOWN (walt) - columbus breaks
          ATMAN - columbus jungle/house buster
================================================================= 

woo hoo ben aka atman aka mighty aka dj oral-fist, spinning in
columbus. ben wuz s'posed to have spun at even further but his
ride ran into a deer! ben wuz also the infamous dude who walked
into mekka the last night w/ nothing but his boxers & a t-shirt
but w/ his jeans hanging over his arm like a gentleman the last
night Stefan Manceau spun.  and the dudes @ Mekka let him in too!
yup not only is ben a point of light but posseses a keen sense
of humor too! 

just my luck it's crysta's turn to come up from columbus & all
this stuff is going on down there! but atleast we caught the 
mini-rave here w/ seven-up & others. plus i got to meet ian's
girl from kentucky promoting the Fantasia 2 bus trip. and u
thought the Ravestock flyer wuz big. welp brad looks like the
Church tonight, especially when ian's hooking us up on the list.

i'll hafta post about the Fantasia 2 bus trip by the Church,
Unity Groove, & Park Rave Madness later but crysta wants to
eat now...
#

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun  9 19:43:57 1996
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WE ARE BACK....BEATBOX UPDATE

ABSTRAK from Vmax RECORDS just finished...
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ERIC HAUPT
and
SILICON of Vmax RECORDS...

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what club was juice held at?

christian/simple



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Steven Y. Tsang wrote:
>ugh, i guess forgot to post the disclamer figuring the list had
>a sense of humor...

i realized that the original "if e was legal" post was supposed to be a
humorous, and sure it did make me laugh because that is what it might be
like. ultimately though i didn't really think it was all that funny, because
it does seriously bother me that mdma is illegal, while alcohol is legal.
stevie, just so you know my post wasn't really an attack on you, but a
statement that i'd much rather see e being legal than alcohol.

-kc


>ugh, i guess forgot to post the disclamer figuring the list had
>a sense of humor...


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Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 21:58:52 -0500
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At 09:44 PM 6/9/96 -0500, christian/simple wrote:
>what club was juice held at?

juice *is* the club. it's a new club in chitown with terry mullan as the
resident dj. i was impressed with it from what i saw on friday night. the
info line is 312.509.5195.

-kc



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man...this party is whacked. *shakes head*
space> ok. community center/ice arena doesnt seem to be the best place
   for a party like this, though. i am hoping there will be an outdoor
   event this summer :>
sound> wall of sound...yada yada yada. the tweeter on top almost permanently
   damage my ear when green velvet was on. pretty wimpy bass for that big
   wall :>
light> it really sucked when i got there. only the large pin beams were on.
   i was like...?!?!@#@#? it got better when the 6 not-so-intelligent lights
   came on.
visual> none whatsoever. well, if you count pple watching.
music> blech! first ave plays better music than this :> pretty bad house.
   the highlight for me was when green velvet put on disco's revenge to 
   open his set.
etc> it was more fun outside :> some live drums in the crisp morning air was
   way better than stuffy rink with bad house. saw some old friends and made
   some new ones as well. got to meet chris and clinton.(chris is a good ride
   cuz he has huge car :>)
well, see you all at bubblicious! oh yeah...at refreshed, too :>

ps - i have never mixed in front of a real crowd b4. any tips for the 
     fright? :> (i will be making my debut at refreshed next, next wed)

bored as all hell with summer school
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
jest (tag) * dove (dj) * john (real)


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On Sat, 8 Jun 1996 osiris7@cris.com wrote:

> Very high energy... there's this cool conga part which starts early on in
> the song... then there's a sampled male voice which says something like
> "Everything is [something] to the beat", and then it explodes into a looped
> 4-beat electric guitar riff groove.  It's the guitar riff that stands out
> in this song.  And there's a bass note suspended for 4 beats, alternating
> with 4 beats of rest.  Sorry, that's the best I can describe it, but I have

The song is called "the beat is over" by Basco I believe.  I have it on a 
promo - but I think it is out on Pssst Records.

*~cosmic~~~

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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:44:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Smith <robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu>
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The rumour mill grinds out the following:
Recently a friend of mine told me something very interesting about the
magic kingdom, he said that when Walt was still running the place, he had
a hidden bar built called club 33. This "club" as it were, was hidden
somewhere among the foliage at disneyland, somewhere in new Orleans square
(we think).  And the only thing different about the door to club 33 and a
door to say..a store or something, is that on the club 33 door their has a
gold plaque reading just "33".  Aparently Walt built this club and only
gave out secret  invitations to the sponsors of the rides...as a sort of
reward.  If anyone has any more info or can confirm this rumor please let
me know, 
thanks

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi


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thats cool. for some reason i figured it was a bi-weekly event that was
being heald at a club all ready est.ed.  so the club is only open every
other weekend? thats kinda weird. oh yeah the other reason i figured it was
a event heald at a club, was the wording on the flier and adn the location.
 so is the club owned by diffrent people now?is open just durring the
biweekly core(?) events?



christian/simple



>At 09:44 PM 6/9/96 -0500, christian/simple wrote:
>>what club was juice held at?
>
>juice *is* the club. it's a new club in chitown with terry mullan as the
>resident dj. i was impressed with it from what i saw on friday night. the
>info line is 312.509.5195.
>
>-kc



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Daniel,

You'll get a kick out of this -- it's TRUE!  You can even get a membership to 
the club, though, if I recall, it's about $25,000 a year to join.  Enjoy!

This link will tell you ALL about it:
http://www.best.com/~snopes/disney/club33.htm

-Chris "The Chicago Correspondent"



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From: robi @ tiger.coe.missouri.edu (Dan Smith) @ INET
Date: 06/10/96 11:44:01 AM
Subject: mickey goes underground

The rumour mill grinds out the following:
Recently a friend of mine told me something very interesting about the
magic kingdom, he said that when Walt was still running the place, he had
a hidden bar built called club 33. This "club" as it were, was hidden
somewhere among the foliage at disneyland, somewhere in new Orleans square
(we think).  And the only thing different about the door to club 33 and a
door to say..a store or something, is that on the club 33 door their has a
gold plaque reading just "33".  Aparently Walt built this club and only
gave out secret  invitations to the sponsors of the rides...as a sort of
reward.  If anyone has any more info or can confirm this rumor please let
me know, 
thanks

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi

 


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Dj's of the party were good and some sucked..
Sprout was good
Sean OD really impressed me
After that for a while everything was like..ackk..i don't like this..
HALO wasn't bad...
DAJAE...someone do a review on this....no comment from me (I don't wanna
	get flamed)
Feelgood..Not a bad set..better than rest of the house that was played..
	i loved him when he put on that xtraxx record.....that's when 
	actually tried to dance.(But silly me dont know how to dance
	hahaha)
Mark Farina...i dunno..missed his set..

sound/lights:REALLY GOOD.(only if there could have been a GOD light there
or one of those huge argon lazers..or both!)

vibe..i duno...someone else rate this...i know it wasnt as good as
even further's vibe........

met some great people..including this one guy named blaze from
atlanta......wearing a orange jumpsuit and orange afro and had orange
glowsticks..and he was reallly nice too! 
(with orange is it hard to be mean??)
 
the party was ok but i WILL say:It was *NOT* worth $20..
whats up with chargin $20???????

i DID score a tape of dj speedfreak!! this tape makes u say "WOOOOAHHH!!"

really good acid-techno........
on speeed...

bluerazz
bluerazz@wsp1.wspice.com


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                   Friday, June 14th, ATP presents...

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       MAIN INFO LINE.........................3 1 2 . 5 0 9 . 6 4 0 7

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               On August 30th, 1996, in Chicago...
 
                       R I G H T E O U S

Paul Johnson      Traxx       Max A Million        Mark Almaria
Mazi              Zvi         Jiminy Cricket       DJ N8
Kid Clone         Quazie      Cosmos

               Main Info..........708-585-3665




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               On Saturday, June 22nd in Minneapolis...

                    M A C   S T R E E T   I I

Dajae...............Performing Live "Day by Day", "Brighter Days", Chicago
Robbie Hardkiss.....Hardkiss Music, San Francisco
Spun................The Gathering, San Francisco
Vitamin D...........Daisy Age Records, LA/Denver
Joeski..............Chocolate Factory Founder, NYC
Traxx...............Performing on 4 turntables, Liquid Sky Music, Chicago
Halo................Teamsters, Chicago
Apollo..............Communique Records, Minneapolis

           Main Info........Uniti.......612-220-9749

           http://www.superfreak.com/uniti/
   

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This Thursday, June 13th in Madison, WI...The Starchildren Present:
 
                          "MILK AND CHEESE" 
                          
             MINDRIVE           KEE           PETERBILT
   
              more info.......STARLINE @  608.258.0098
                       
                          admission is $5
                      future events to follow
                          RESPECT 6.29.96


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Can anyone get into the club or does that incessant rule about being 21
take effect???

LIq.

On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, christian matts wrote:

> thats cool. for some reason i figured it was a bi-weekly event that was
> being heald at a club all ready est.ed.  so the club is only open every
> other weekend? thats kinda weird. oh yeah the other reason i figured it was
> a event heald at a club, was the wording on the flier and adn the location.
>  so is the club owned by diffrent people now?is open just durring the
> biweekly core(?) events?
> 
> 
> 
> christian/simple
> 
> 
> 
> >At 09:44 PM 6/9/96 -0500, christian/simple wrote:
> >>what club was juice held at?
> >
> >juice *is* the club. it's a new club in chitown with terry mullan as the
> >resident dj. i was impressed with it from what i saw on friday night. the
> >info line is 312.509.5195.
> >
> >-kc
> 
> 
> 



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From: curtis80@ix.netcom.com (Curtis Mead)
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i agree that Summer Daze blew goats.
i will never pay $18 for a party again
unless:
A. it lasts 3 or more days
or
B. i have to fly 2+ hours to get there.

i will also never go to another event at a hockey arena
even if it is free.

and don't forget about BASSCORP'S wkly tekkno
event reFRESHed.
wed. nights 8pm-1am
Majestic Ballroom, Cottage Grove, MN
this wk:
Slip
Professor Earache
Paul-E-Wog
Chris Sattinger
K

942-1391
$4.00
All Ages


respect,
clinton mead

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 15:49:50 1996
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From: cmatts@artic.edu (christian matts)
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>Can anyone get into the club or does that incessant rule about being 21
>take effect???
>
>LIq.
>
its 17+. btw you messages are coming in 2xs. but im still courious if
anyone knows if it is open anyohter nights. $7-$10 fr a club is steep as
far as i am concerned(esp. when ill be 21 in 6mo.) but i might check it
out.

christian/simple



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 15:54:34 1996
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the club, gothem, was also 17+.

christian/simple



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 18:18:04 1996
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From: syt@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven Y. Tsang)
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here's some stuff coming up in cleveland, if u happen to get 
stuck in our part of town for some dreadful reason...

. a f t e r w e r k s .

  now every tuesday

house breakbeat trance

    audio syn by:

k.krullyn  c.vanna  c.everest

special guest: DJ 7-up

11pm-3am             $4.00

location: upstairs          
1124 old river rd. east bank flats

info: 216.671.1691

---

6.15.96

R A D I K A L   N O I Z E

special guest: Keith Litman - Gossip Records, Hard House, New York

saturdays
odeon . 1295 old river rd . cleveland
house...for freaks of all persuasions
resident dj: rob sherwood

19 to dance, 21 to drink

---

pre-flyer:

on the weekend of july 19, 20, 21
the team that brought you "4:20"

spawntaneous        psychoactive
productions         productions

want you to take the next step,

7 : 2  0 

sunset friday 19th til sunrise sunday 21st
1 stage, 1 focus, 1 vibe!  

rain or shine!

33 hours of unrestricted unstopable music!
full camping - huge outdoor space
capacity for everyone, no one will be
turned away! 

watch for main flyer for further info
dj and pa line ups, and many more surprises!

info: 216.779.7188
expect the unexplained!

---

The Church (cleveland), Unity Groove (kentucky), & Park Rave Madness (NYC)
are offering us a safe way to travel [to Fantasia 2]. But we need your
interest to make it possible. the travel package includes tix, bus fare,
and friendly raver hosts :) the more the merrier and cheaper the fare!
18+ please.

info:

F A N T A S I A   I I

in the beginning house was a feeling, and from this feeling came the music.
the music came together to create the atomosphere and then the summer of love.
but the people grew disillusioned and became divided. different forms of music
were created and a new generation of ravers were born. techno was the new
feeling. and from techno emerged music that incorporated sounds of a new era.
the music was more than just a feeling, it was a way of life. intelligent
music for intelligent minds. detrimental drums and bassline. music for the
future. so as the beats and the bass thunder down, we bring forth the knights
of the underground.

THE TECHNO DOME              5pm til sunrise       THE HOUSE THAT JACK BUILT

ELECTRIC INDIGO                                    FRANKIE BONES
hardwax records, germany                           burning down jack's house

DJ RUSH                                            TERRY MULLAN
relief records, chicago                            definitive records, chicago

LENNY DEE                                          SCOTT HENRY
industrial strength, brooklyn                      fever, buzz, washington dc

ADAM X                                             JOESKI
sonic groove, brooklyn                             chocolate factory, nyc

FRANKIE BONES                                      MGEE
sonic groove, brooklyn                             primary, boston

THE CREATOR                                        MICRO
park rave madness, queens                          sorted records, long island

REESE                                              SCOTT RICHMOND
liquid sky music, nyc                              satellite records, nyc

GRIMM                                              PETE MOSS
park rave madness, queens                          boston beat records, boston

MACE                                               CHRIS VIV
headstrong people, philadelphia                    planet soul records, queens

DEVER                                              GLENN GARCIA
the zoo, brooklyn                                  structure, new jersey underg.

                
FREE AFTER PARTY: 
future funk . klip rock . dan dc . gonzo . mark b . vitamins . mike bryant
tera . k.d. . dj phat . tony d . joe jeep . tommy tunes . jcee . decypher
plus special guests...

please bring: positive attitudes, flowers, dancing shoes, marshmallows,
candy, drums, smiles, hugs, stuffed animals, whistles & nice things to share

leave home: bad vibes, bad attitudes, markers, blankets, bottles and all
negativity

sound...100 rock sound audio boxes bringin down da bass!

lights...a configuration of the best high-tech lighting will be gathered

lasers...4 multi-colored high powered lasers will be on display!

ticket locations: $21 advance . $25 at the door
(cleveland) the Church Music Store

free parking security patrolled throughout the event

rain or shine...tents will be supplied if necessary

park rave madness info lines: 212-465-3368 or 718.390.7176

FOR CLEVELAND BUS TRIP INFO CALL: 216.221.0568 for cheryl or ian
or e-mail me @ syt@po.cwru.edu

---

miscellaneous shout outs:

woo hoo kate's back in town!

thank u pebblesOH (my down the road neighbor) for the ride to 
Turned On this past thursday!

---

on now: DJ Liquid: ElectroAcidFunk continuos mix CD (thanx for the package!)
        DJ Liquid / Journees Clothing contact info:
        Tel/fax 408.725.1291  Mobile 408.221.6131
        liquid@hooked.net . http://www.hooked.net/users/liquid

---

dats it. bye...

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syt@po.cwru.edu|   _____/|  |____ |  |    |         |
216.556.1485___|__|______\_______||__|____|__|\_/|__|___________

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 18:41:53 1996
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From: Jeff Gage <j-gerard@uiuc.edu>
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To Dan and others who care-

Yes Club 33 exists, I went to a birthday party for my
mother's-boyfriend's-daughter when I was like in seventh grade. It wasn't
all *that* top secret, but it was pretty damn elite and it was just a door
with a 33 on it that you knocked on. I think mother's-boyfriend had some
sort of membership and it was expensive and limited in number. I don't
remmber the meal except that mothers-boyfriends-daughter spilled her drink
all over the linen tablecloth and it was a huge ordeal.

:) Ah, childhood memories of Disneyland. Ghod I hate that place...

...Gage

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeff Gage                          http://www.iosoftware.com/~dsaito/gage/
mailto:j-gage@uiuc.edu                           voicephone://217-328-9685
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 21:10:22 1996
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tuesdays in east lansing...

free house partee...

234 beal...

open tables...

for more info contact bossen_c@cc.denison.edu or call 351-3150 and ask Fivel
(five L)



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 21:41:38 1996
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From: fj480@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff S. Stern)
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welp, here's how i thought the night went...

after some delay and number crunching, myself and fellow mw-raver mindkiss
decided to take two cars...we made it in 8 hours from cleveland, even stopping
three timed for fod and potty breaks..not bad eh?

alrighty... the six of us got there at 9:30...early, and there were already someodd 100 peop0 people waiting outside.....

THE SPACE
the roseland ballroom....right in the heart of the city..this, being the lame-o
tourists, we were, was a god thing...we walked around for a half hour until we
*thought* people were going to be let in....this did not happen....we waited,
and waited, and still waited....we even waited!  some people might even go
as far as to say that we did, in fact, wait.  heh, sorry about that :) finally
we got in a little after midnite..i determined that this was WAY too long
of a wait...something must have been wrong...i heard from others who weren't
there on time that the wait was up to four...what was the problem?  anyway,
the place was real nice....real bathrooms, running water, HUGE dance floor,
but boy oh boy was it WAY TOO HOT.....this played a large factor in my
enjoyment of most of the evening...i saw vents all over the [place, why not
turn on the air?  hmm..oh well....

THE LIGHTS
welp, these were done by the guy who works with the orb (forgot his name, sorry)....i want to especially point out that the video projections were reall, reallynice....amazing, actually...if they weren't about 80 ft from the ground i may 
have looked at them for a while....this also goes for the lasers...which were done by P.A.W.N.....way up near the gigantic ceiling and coming from the far right.....i found this to be a big waste of some good lasers, as it was hard to notic them unless you happened to be looking WAY over to your upper right...they
had those neat strobes that can flicker like lightning (what are those called?)
the others were nice....well placed creating a box above the floor...as well
as the rig on the stage, which wasn't even used much....but nice over all...

THE SOUND
all bass and highs as usual....what is wrong with most sound guys these days?
are they that deaf that they can't tell there should be *midrange* in music?
the fact that there was plenty of bass made me at least somewhat satisfied...
the placement was nice though...set up in four corners around both dance floors
..i wish more people did that....

THE VIBE
hmm....well....this is nyc, an *entirely* different world....i met a good amountof nice people from the city, which made me feel a little more optomistic 
towards the city in general...but overall i sensed a large arrogance in the
place....attitude all over the place....i mean, this *is* nyc, the birthplace
of sayings like "yo, bitch" and "fuck off"...so that really didn't surprise me... i actually expected a lot of clubby dressed kids and divas, but strangely therwere none to be found....most were jsut dressed like the rest of us....but my
one prollem was the *sitting*.....come on, kids sitting *all over* the dance
floor....and the thing sold out so it's not like there was much room to begin 
with....they were spread out on the floor all over..this really got to me...people would bump into me a lot....barely any smiles....actually the best friends
that i made there were from out of touwn too, with the exception of about four
people......anyway, there were a billion circles, each with kids trying to show
who is better....i found these circles not to be where any dancer could come
in and bust it out, but a social circle where anyone who wasn't there to begin with was shunned....i didn't like this at all..but it did make me think....a lot
actually...i thought about what it may be like being brought up in nyc...the
drugs, attitude, competition, fast paced atmosphere...this is what these kids
were about, and i realized it completely reflected in their dancing....
i resolved in stil not liking the way they danced, but at least respecting them
in the end.....but enough about that...

THE MUSIC
ahhhhh....not a bad tune all night.  but....NO SET LIST!  is it THAT tough to
get a pice of paper and tape up who's going on when by the soundboard?  sheesh!
this REALLY pissed me off as there were many people i did not want to miss...
frankie bones mc'd and announced in the main room who was on after each 
respective set, but what if you weren't there to hear it? i would try to ask
kids who was on and most of them couldn't hear me or didn't know....blah.
anyway, here we go...

scott henry - was on in a surprisingly early time slot...unfortunately was too
overwelmed with seeing friends and the atmosphere to notice...

ian pooley - hard ass techno...i love it.

neil landstrum live - wow.  i really like this guy...didn't play my favorite
track (whose name i don't know) but easily one of the best live PA's ive seen..
the dance floor was packed and screamin!

frankie bones - didn't really feel like dancin to it...really good to listen to
though....he's smooth. in the middle i went down to the second room.

oh....btw those were all main room acts up there 

and in the lower room:

odi - good hard, darjungle...loved every minute of it...glad i finally got to see him

peshay - YEAH!!!  artist from, IMHO, the best friggin jungle lable out there (good looking)....he TORE IT UP!!!

dubtribe live - a much better performance than wheni saw them at 420, IMO. 
also very nice in a small wsetting..theis room wasn't and a large portion of
people had finally cleared out....this was when i REALLY started to have a god time!

deep dish - wooooOoOOOOOoOoO!!!   mixed right into the end of dubrtibe's set, 
danced my skinny white booty off the whole time...anyone know who is the taller one?  dubfire maybe?  he was on first....anyway, soone after the second half of deep dish went on, the party ended..one hour earlier than scheduled....a bit dissapointing since i was just gettin warmed up!  the first and last track (it was the same one) of the first guy's set had me trainspottin big time..too bad the
tables were too far away from the block off for me to tell...anyone, anyone?    makes me a LOT more excited for family affair II...perfect for a large outdoor setting....jsut you all wait!

okay..all in all, i had a fun time..not an amazing time, but fun....a learning
experience...interesting...fun.iu really think if it wasn't so hot in there i
prolly would have had three times as much fun, but oh well...it happens...
worth $27?  not really, but it came damn close.....

also, shouts aout to all the netters who were there (the list is far too long)!

anyway, i think i've typed enough for one day....this has made up for the few
months where i haven't posted...

be safe and peace out...

--jeff/stuff (that guy)

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 21:47:10 1996
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ok, so while i'm in thepostin kinda mood, i'd like to bring something up for
discussion....

anybody wonder why there's virtually no trance being played at parties?

okay, i know it's a little less dancer friendly, but it's not like it's too
hard to dance to....i also know there are probable less trance dj's then in any
other genre of techno....but still....it exists...

perhaps people haven't been exposed enough to it to get into it....

any thoughts?

--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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>anybody wonder why there's virtually no trance being played at parties?
>
>okay, i know it's a little less dancer friendly,

a *little*??!!??

ha!

mebbe you can do the lil "hippie sway around and zone out" dance to it, but
you can't possible BUST OUT to trance, plus it puts me to sleep.

zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz



love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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"curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 22:12:27 1996
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To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.com
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me sed:
==================================================================
The Church (cleveland), Unity Groove (kentucky), & Park Rave Madness (NYC)
are offering us a safe way to travel [to Fantasia 2]. But we need your
interest to make it possible. the travel package includes tix, bus fare,
and friendly raver hosts :) the more the merrier and cheaper the fare!
18+ please.

info:

F A N T A S I A   I I

                   [ FILLER STUFF SURGICALLY REMOVED ]

park rave madness info lines: 212-465-3368 or 718.390.7176

FOR CLEVELAND BUS TRIP INFO CALL: 216.221.0568 for cheryl or ian
or e-mail me @ syt@po.cwru.edu
===================================================================      

ian just called me to tell me he has an e-mail addy too.
so for info about the bus trip or for bookings contact:

DJ Ian Mariano:  shaman@en.com
http://www.en.com/users/shaman/
Katt Technologies/Trans Trance Technologies (tCubed)

oh btw jeff, ian spins trance every sunday night @ the Church,
so it's not like it's lacking here in cleveland.

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 10 22:30:35 1996
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The phat little space that is home to JUICE every other week is a club
called GOTHAM.  Its an old Chi-Town hangout.  Very strange, "gothic" (guess
thats where the name came from-duh) A non-descript little cinderblock
building on DesPlaines and Hubbard in the big city. Had a cool bar with 8
foot long "creature" legs coming out of the wall.  Multiple rooms with
chairs and phat, cushy velvet couches. (I loved that) I'll concur with
Osiris-Great lasers! Dark and kind of dank. Cool.  Terry Mullin is
"supposed" to be resident DJ.  Funny, because he is supposed to be a
resident at the Smart Bar on Tuesdays, but last week, his premiere night
there-he was AWOL.  Oh well, Derrick and Chad spun great stuff and I forgot
all about Terry.  The SMART BAR is kickin with good spinners on weekday
nights.  It is 21+, and so is GOTHAM, 'cept on JUICE nights, then it's 17+
Both of these clubs had real nice people and good vibes, so they have the
HION seal of approval :)  See ya there<-----------|-| | ( ) |\|

p.s.  If anyone is goin to the SMART BAR tomarrow, lets hook up!

        +*+*+*+*+*SUPPORTS PUBLIC DISPLAYS OF GROOVE+*+*+*+*+*+*


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i personally have no problem "BUSTING OUT" to trance, and neither did the other
people in the tents while Dan EFX was on at EF...that goes double for Speedy too.

people used to think jungle wasn't dancer friendly either and look what happened                            ???

and btw stevie....i was referring to GOOD trance, not crappy trance that the
club forced ian to play....i hear he is much better when he plays what he wants...but hey......clubs are not for people like me.

anyhow, i speculate that if more trance (hardtrance especially) was played
at parties, more people would dance to it and appreciate it...well, duh. :)


oh....and btw...i don't dance like a hippie....do i?  *looks around*

--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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>i personally have no problem "BUSTING OUT" to trance, and neither did the other
>people in the tents while Dan EFX was on at EF...that goes double for Speedy
>too.

right, i shouldn't have said "you", i should have said "me", or "i" as the
case would be.  and speedy spun trance at EF?  when he spun in the DBN tent
he spun west coast funky breaks and did a damn good job of it too, just
like he did in balto on NYE.

>people used to think jungle wasn't dancer friendly either and look what
>happened

well, i think this is different.

>anyhow, i speculate that if more trance (hardtrance especially) was played
>at parties, more people would dance to it and appreciate it...well, duh. :)

doubtful.  ppl like to dance to house.  *shrug*  i appreciate trance, i
think some of it is make-you-cry beautiful.  i just can't dance to it...

>oh....and btw...i don't dance like a hippie....do i?  *looks around*

naw, you don't dance like a hippie! :P you dance like that guy...that guy
from cleveland...whatzhisname, the one with the hair?  that *guy*!!! ;)

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
**************************************************************************
"curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
                                              -falling forward
**************************************************************************



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At 01:40 AM 6/11/96 -0400, "Jeff S. Stern" <fj480@cleveland.Freenet.Edu> wrote:
>
>anyhow, i speculate that if more trance (hardtrance especially) was played
>at parties, more people would dance to it and appreciate it...well, duh. :)

Trance used to be the dominate style (IMO) at parties in the mw area
2 years ago, be it hard trance, melodic trance, or the moody trance.
I really don't see/hear much stuff in the style of Illuminate's
"Tremora Del Terra" or "Tierra Del Fuego" these days.  Perhaps it took
the Darwin approach and withered away??  I will admit that after a while,
the style got kinda boring.  Cosmic Baby's 2nd release "Thinking About Myself"
probably was the turning point, as I found the cd pretty uninteresting and
just a bit self-indulgent.  (Ok ok, so it's there in the title.  I thought
it was a translation error.  :)



Andrew--
   Andrew Bennett
   abennett@hyperreal.com, abennett@cruzio.com
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Gothem is 21+, relaly i tough it was 17+ because i new hs kinds the went on
wed nights. maybe that wsa an exception, and now the exception hase moved
to the bi weekly event. oh well im still gona debate on weather to go or
not. $10 is alot of money when you unempolied and have to pay rent.

simple



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>>people used to think jungle wasn't dancer friendly either and look what
>>happened
>
>well, i think this is different.
>


if anything trance is "easier" to dance to because itis still on a 4/4
rythem, like house(which i dont enjoy dancing to, but then agian i am a
jungle head.)

and i agree that there should be more trance played. from what i know
trance the the shit in boston. maybe chi.house and detroit techno has a
really strong preasence here in the midwest. jungle is completly diffrent
form house and i think thats why ppl likeit as a new thing to listen to,
where trance(with i like) is still kinda similar to house as far as the
back beat goes.

dancingto trance is easy, esp hard trance(for me), because i get more in
groove where i space out and forget about everything else. (btw i dont doe
acid/x or anythingother than an occational bowl, but if i didi imagin that
i would enter anther world.)

christian/simple



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jeff taht stuffy guy sed:
=================================================================== 
and btw stevie....i was referring to GOOD trance, not crappy trance that the
club forced ian to play....i hear he is much better when he plays what he 
wants...but hey......clubs are not for people like me.

anyhow, i speculate that if more trance (hardtrance especially) was played
at parties, more people would dance to it and appreciate it...well, duh. :)

oh....and btw...i don't dance like a hippie....do i?  *looks around*
====================================================================

welp i hafta let ian speak for himself on that one later...
but i'll hafta agree the general club crowd has become very unappealing,
but one has to understand we all started out that ignorantly. 

sleepy c started out as a trance dj (thus the nickname sleepy c) and
spun hard trance at most of his early partys. hell, he has a poster
of Hardfloor pinned up in his studio. i wuz just saying there's still
alot of trance being played in cleveland, eventho house is still the
predominant style - *yawn*

but be honest, me thinx yur just saying this cuz u wanna be a trance dj

naw u don't dance like a hippie, but the long hair doesn't help =)

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Regarding Deep Dish:

The taller guy w/dark hair is Dubfire( aka Ali )and the shorter blonde is 
Sharam.  

They are really great guys, love to party and great DJ's.  

  

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welp, just for the rekkid, Speedy did, in fact, spin trance at some point during
the weekend...i believe it was very late in his set as he was tagteaming with
steven kaye..perhaps he changed styles to mix with kaye's west coast trancey stystylees :)

i dunno....what do i know?

i don't know anything....


--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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Which issue of Spin and where in the magazine was this?

Ash

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> welp, here's how i thought the night went...

i'll just comment on what i thought jeff left out...

the ride there was a good time, lots of fun car tricks! ;)  shortest
8 hr. car ride i ever had.  sucked we had to take two cars, but
that was better than six people crammed in a nissan for 8 hrs.

> THE SPACE
funny how when we got there, there were soooo many kids hangin out
on the streets.  where i'm from that's a riot, and people get the
beat down!  nobody cared in nyc, cool!  met some people in line
from all over.

> THE LIGHTS
for the most part i thought it was a little too well lit, but
then i guess i prefer the dark.  lasers were cool, but yeah, like
jeff said, not very noticeable way up there.  i didn't even really
realize there were any lasers for a while.

> THE SOUND
four corners, good time... yep.

> THE VIBE
> but overall i sensed a large arrogance in the
> place....attitude all over the place....
attitude, hell yeah, someone even called me a faggot when
i tried to give them a flyer for family affair.  as if
my sexual preferences had something to do with what parties
they went to!  i expect this some places, but i mean,
from rave kids... i was pretty shocked, but new town, new things, huh?

> i actually expected a lot of clubby dressed kids and divas
i saw a couple, it was cool, cuz you don't see that much where i'm
from...

> one prollem was the *sitting*.....come on, kids sitting *all over* the dance
> floor...
yeah, this really sucked, because it took like a half hour to get from
room to room.  dubtribe goes on and i have to go to the other room to
get my friends, and get back - hell, they're almost done by then...

> THE MUSIC 
> NO SET LIST!
aarrrgh!

> scott henry
my 2nd favorite set of the nite (dubtribe being first!).  scott henry
tore shit up and had a lot of people dancing (back before everyone
sat down and there was still room to dance...)

> odi
if this was the kid spinning jungle when we first got there, hell
yeah!!! that was some good jungle.  i even had to dance, and if you
don't know, i'm a house kid!

> dubtribe live 
most of the reason i went, and they rocked, but it was way too hot
and crowded to dance.  i've never had so many people just walk
right through me when i was dancing before.  of course, it was
so hot down there, that they probably couldn't see me for the
sweat in their eyes!

> worth $27?
yeah.  worth an 8hr. ride, nope!  but it was fun nonetheless!

> also, shouts aout to all the netters who were there
i should've hung out with jeff more, cuz i seem to have missed
all netters at that party.  drat!

also i noticed that a _lot_ of kids had on pants and other
apparel done up in flag motif courtesy of satellite!  i liked
it and think it was a pretty good marketing strategy for satellite.
have a party with a theme, sell clothes to match, everyone goes,
"yeah, i gotta have those pants with the stars and stripes for
liberty!"  wish we could've went to satellite the next day to get
some, but cash being what it was (gone!) we didn't.

my take on liberty,
mindkiss






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if anyone has worked with a pressing house and can recommend someone to 
press my vinyl your suggestions are welcome. I have some pricing from 
europadisk but I'd like to find someone cheaper (and in the chicago area)

thanks-

mike
mikew@synet.net

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twas said....

sound> wall of sound...yada yada yada. the tweeter on top almost permanently
   damage my ear when green velvet was on. pretty wimpy bass for that big
   wall :>

in my experience the "minneapolis wall of sound" has consisted of (at 
least at several parties i've been to, but not all) a row of bass bins on 
the top and two stacks of empty bins on the bottom.  what a novel 
concept, becauise you know i'm too dumb, and wouldn't know the diference.;P

dylan

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Well, there might be a couple really. I'm currently doing a radio show at
Notre Dame's FM station. The two hours are divided enabling me to cover a
diverse spectrum of music. The first hour is essentially your standard college
radio station fare. The second is devoted to techno, house, tribal, acid
jazz. . . you get the picture. Unfortunately, there isn't any good vinyl shops
in SB. And I really hate playing this stuff from disk. So I'm heading into
Chicago this Saturday to look around and do some shopping. Before I head in
and go blindly searching from excellent vinyl, what are some of the better
places to check out? What are the more knowledgable staffs? This show is more
an introduction to the stuff, but I do like to get into the most current
shit available -- timeliness is vital. (I will spin the "oldies", however,
to satiate my own aural appetites.) Anyway, mind lendin' me a hand? Thanks.

Peace,
John-Andrew Murphy
Coordinator
International Studies Resource Center
Hesburgh Library
University of Notre Dame

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>        * TRAXX * ................................D-Jax Flavor/Chicago

DJ Traxx is on Djax?  I dont believe I've heard any of this cat's
releases.  I've heard 'em spin, and it wasnt DJax material back then.
More like house with diva wailin', but that always was in st.louis.
what is the scoop?


Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi


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> Trance used to be the dominate style (IMO) at parties in the mw area
> 2 years ago, be it hard trance, melodic trance, or the moody trance.
> I really don't see/hear much stuff in the style of Illuminate's
> "Tremora Del Terra" or "Tierra Del Fuego" these days.  Perhaps it took
> the Darwin approach and withered away??  I will admit that after a while,
> the style got kinda boring.  Cosmic Baby's 2nd release "Thinking About Myself"
> probably was the turning point, as I found the cd pretty uninteresting and
> just a bit self-indulgent.  (Ok ok, so it's there in the title.  I thought
> it was a translation error.  :)

I dont know about this one.  It all depends on where you were, and what
parties one decided to attend.  I know 2 years ago in St. Louis, one could
search in vain and find little more than house at the time.  Ambient rooms
began here and there in the midwest from what I saw on fliers at the time,
and what I saw happening out and about.  Trance has had its ins and outs,
fusing with house in some styles and techno with others, sped up or slowed
down, and my fav fusion from way back, acid trance.

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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heres a clever twist on that old "Blue Star Tattoo" LSD myth...
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>WARNING TO EVERYONE: If you have a computer or know who does, regardless
>of their ages, you should read this! A form of fake software, called "AOL
>FREE TRIAL OFFER" is given away free of charge to knuckle-draggers and
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>CD. This software is soaked with free hours in order to addict the unwary
>to this braincell-destroying on-line service.
>
>The inks used on the packaging react with the moisture and oils in your
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>
>THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL DEATHS FROM OVERDOSES, AND MORE DUE TO THE
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>
>Symptoms to watch for include:  hallucinations, mood swings uncontrolled
>vomiting, drop in body temperature, dizziness, severely dilated pupils,
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>the beginning of the AOL "trip". If you suspect that someone has become a
>victim of one of these free software diskettes, you must take him or her
>immediately to the hospital and call the police.
>
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>different designs, but the FREE HOURS design is the most common. 
>
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>
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Dan Smith wrote:
> 
> >        * TRAXX * ................................D-Jax Flavor/Chicago
> 
> DJ Traxx is on Djax?  I dont believe I've heard any of this cat's
> releases.  I've heard 'em spin, and it wasnt DJax material back then.
> More like house with diva wailin', but that always was in st.louis.
> what is the scoop?
> 
> Luscious Daniel Smack
> robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
> http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi

You are correct sir!!!!  Traxx isn't on D-Jax.  I don't know where they 
got that from.
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If you want trance, be it deep trance, acid trance, funk trance, trance
trance, etc...THEN GO TO MADISON!  Just about any of the spinners from
Erotishock will spin you silly with good, danceable trance for just pennys a
day.  Mindrive, Peterbuilt, Jedidiah, Efex....Ahhh, I can feel my soul start
to groove already.  Does anyone remember UFO?  Such great trance that my
soul left my body and danced a funky jig right next to me.  This to me is
what it's all about. Deep spacey trance is to me, the end all be all of
techno.<---|-| | ( ) |\|

p.s. I cant dance to house either, kinda makes me want to hurl sometimes.
To me, trance is more conducive to dancefloor vibe, kinda hard not to give
off good energy when you are *completely* lost in the music.  Remember kidz,
this is just MY $0.02 worth.


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does anyone know what's going on w/ CHARM? kell? kevin? ed? mike?

pete sed [on pb-cle-raves]:
=================================================================
p.s. CHARM, this friday is in the process of changing locations; keep
callin the infoline even though it was shut off.


                                   * pete sysko *
        music takes us round and round in this trip called life
            o o 0 O     http://cac.psu.edu/~pss116      O 0 o o
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                               ooooo0O0O0O0ooooo
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first of all i thought it wuz to be held on saturday, has it changed?
i called the illuminator voice mail # and it asks for a mail box #,
which of course i don't have. i hope it's still going on cuz i wuz
looking forward to this...

oooh hey kell if yur still spinning at the party, don't forget that
scott henry / dieselboy mixed tape i wuz gonna get off yah!

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        Werd up Hion, madison is a great place to do the happy trance dance
and I'm proud to be a resident =) UFO 2 was probably right up there in my
best party ever, and i can't wait for UFO 3!! now don't quote me on this,
but rumor has it that Carlos, DJ Dan, and a live act will be there.  Anyway
the flier should be out soon.   and hey, for awhile i was thinking i was the
only one out there who couldn't feel the groove in deep house, so it's good
to know i have company.  I groove to jungle, good intelligent jungle really
sets me off!  if i wanted to hear wailing divas i would turn on top 40 radio
or something!  ;~)  go ahead all you house lovers flame away =)

        But i digress:  what i really wanted to say is that there is no way
trance is dead!  furthermore, techno/house/jungle (party music in general in
other words) is way to subdivided IMHO.  let's see 
        House Music:  We have deep house (yuck ;~), acid house, garage,
ghetto house, hard house...
        Jungle:  darkside, intelligent(three cheers for those spacey
keyboards!  sorry not up on all my jungle terms, feel free to add to the
list, i've really only gotten into it in the past few months.)  and jungle
basically occurred when someone decided to throw break beats and a dub
record together, so maybe you could lump them under these too.  go figure.
        Techno: this term is way to generic.  but i would think acid,
trance,goa trance, acid trance, intelligent/ambient would all fall under it.
        Gabba:  we have happy hardcore, rotterdam, hmm cant think of any
others right now
        And my personal favorite =)
                        Music made with a 303- let's see-  if its 120-130
bpm pple call it acid house, 130-150 and repetitive it's acid trance, if
it's 150+ bpm its hard acid.....
                Well i think you've all gotten the point by now.  Why don't
we all just call it good music?  instead of
westcoast/psychedelic/intelligent/acidbreaks  =)
                                                                            
    peace Marc


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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

	I got to Nashville late so I missed some of the D.J's  like Sprout and a
few others. The event itself was held at the Cannery where there have been
lots of  parties before but it didn't really matter cause this event ended
up being different.
	This party was really about house music and if you don't like house music 
then there really wasn't any place for you to hide even though the second
room did some old school hip hop which was cool also. There were cool magic
sparks shooting through the air when Traxx and Trevor Lamont were tag
teaming- I'm not sure if Paul Johnson was tagging also but their sets were
tight. That hard house shizz-nit with snares that sound like pimp slaps!
Tuff stuff indeed.
	Since Bluerazz didn't wanna review Dajae- I'll give it a shot. When it
comes to acts like Dajae you either like it or you don't and I did see some
people leave the main room when she came on but I saw many more people come
running inside to come check her out. Her sound is clubby and the vocals
sometimes scare people away but  I just consider her a lighter shade of
house and her tunes were uplifting. Saw many people crowd the front of the
stage during "Brighter Days" and many mouths sing along. Hey Razz right
after you left the main room she broke out into the hardcore and gabber
portion of her set-I guess you missed it. :) 
	The wierd thing that sticks most in my mind was not her performance or
songs which were both good but the SOUND. Wow I was right in front of the
amp and everything sounded crisp and clean. The vocals didn't get eaten by
the lows and the highs didn't disappear into the backround. The sound was
excellent.
	The space got hotter as the night went on and so many people retreated to
the second room which was cooler so I missed Mark Farina and Miles. The
vibe was tight also and I didn't run into any bad attitudes. The AFTERPARTY
was moved to a small club since it was gonna rain and that was a good call.
Nice people and friendly smiles abound. The afterparty was dope. My
personal highlights at the afterparty was dancing w/ Jay Grady(Louisville)
and Jason May (CIncinnati) on the floor working with that Samuri flow and
ignoring the floor breakers who wanted to compete. F**k that. To hell with
that "lets battle" mentality; lets just dance together instead and see what
happens. Floorbreakers kept stepping to us assuming that we were from the
same school of thought since we were working with flow. Funk Dat! The whole
Party was one of the best that I have ever been to in Nashville because I
never really sat out during any D.J. It was all good. Feelgoods set at the
party was like the damn place just opened up a sun roof. Harmonic
frequencies indeed. Even though the event was nice, paying twenty bucks for
a party always hurts my pocket and I wonder if the days of the reasonably
priced parties are over. I sure hope not.                                  
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
  PEACE,                                                                   
                                                    Shiva/Cousin Goose

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>        Gabba:  we have happy hardcore, rotterdam, hmm cant think of any

Ack no, happy hardcore belongs to the breakbeat familee.  It's sad to see it
moving towards that distorted 909 redneck rotterdam sound tho.  But the old
stuff and, now, the good stuff - all has a breakbeat root and not a gabbaHAUS.

earache

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 11 16:17:46 1996
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> in my experience the "minneapolis wall of sound" has consisted of (at 
> least at several parties i've been to, but not all) a row of bass bins on 
> the top and two stacks of empty bins on the bottom.  what a novel 
> concept, becauise you know i'm too dumb, and wouldn't know the diference.;P

Hey Dylan! You'd better come back to minneapolis for ONE-DER. This is a 
quote from the flier: "Encore proudly resurrects the infamous MINNEAPOLIS 
WALL OF SOUND!"  Oh boy. I can't wait.  They also promise some 
non-intelligent lighting.  What the hell's that? A flashlight taped to a 
stick? The sad thing is, I WILL be going to this overpriced, overhyped 
joke that encore calls a party.  Why? Because I'm stupid.

But I can't wait for Bubbilicious this weekend!

chris


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ok everyone, and stevie t, too...
CHARM is this saturday, in dayton.  it's $5 (old skool!~ woohoo!) and
vaporspace is the headliner.  it's gonna be really cool, i know that me
(yes, me, i'm actually going to a party), becky, katerina, and kaykay are
going.  ben (dj stupid cylert, heheh) will also be spinning.  i figure
that will be a good time to nap. *duck*
anyway, you can ask arash on vrave if you have any more questions...and we
will most likely be doing breakfast, so kell, stevie, and all you others
who will be there, keep that in mind. :)
i'm getting my wisdom teeth pulled the following monday, so everyone be
nice to me, or your bad karma will make me swell.
-becca
ps...stevie, bring kate!  and i should be in cleveland on the 22nd and
after for the summer.


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        About two months ago an article appeared in the Isthmus, a free
weekly newspaper in Madison about UFO, which if you don't know was a pretty
big party ;).  anyway, this 70 yr old vetrinarian guy had a 24 hour clinic
next door to the warehouse, and the article was about his complaints
regarding it.  He called the police, but they basically were like, "we're
not going to do anything.  there is no no parking signs posted so we can't
tow cars, and this event is too big to bust."  the vetrinarian guy actually
went into the warehouse at about 4 am and said he saw beverage sales
(comeon, it was cottonmouth !), beer cans, and smelled marijuana.  The guy
was so irked he filed a complaint against the officer that responded to him.
I would type the article here but sadly i lost it.  The whole article was
actually pretty humorous, but all the misconceptions asserted in it prompted
me to write a response.  I thought i had a decent chance of getting it
printed because the isthmus is a fairly liberal paper, but i really didn't
think it would get printed, after all, the article was about 3 paragraphs
long.  but to my surprise, it was printed a few weeks later, in a SEVERELY
edited form, the original letter was over a page long handwritten and this
is what it was cut down to.  The basic message stays the same, but i thought
i expressed it better than they're distilled version.  But here is the
letter as it appeared in the April 26 paper.  (just for reference, UFO was
march 2, and the article appeared march 15 or so.)

        "Rave On"  (not the title i gave it mind you) =D
                Regarding the On the Town item (3/15/96) on the March 2
party on North Stoughton Road:  The event was a "rave" called "UFO," which i
attended.  The complainant and the police officer quoted in the story have
some misperceptions about it.  First, there was no alcohol served-anyone
under the influence had consumed it prior to the party.  Uniformed security
checked all participants for alcohol, weapons and other potentially
dangerous items.  The "beverage sales" Jans Leubow {a neighboring property
owner} is probably referring to are smart drinks containing water, juice and
amino acids to refuel dehydrated and tired dancers.  He should understand
that alcohol consumption is frowned upon by rave culture, and I saw none
being consumed that night.
        While some drug use occurs at a rave, I would point out it occurs at
rock concerts too, yet concerts are not shut down by police.  Furthermore,
raving is not about "getting messed up and dancing," but rather peace, love,
unity, and respect, or PLUR.  All are accepted from any ethnic or sexual
orientation.  In addition, raves often benefit humanitarian causes, offering
discounts on admission for canned food donations or donating a portion of
their proceeds to a charitable cause.
        Our scene has been corrupted by people whose only aim is to use
controlled substances.  I would ask these people to stay away.  You will be
our downfall.  I attended the "Surge" rave on March 23 in Sun Prarie, and
this was busted due to police observation of drug use.  I do not understand
why an entire event can be shut down for the actions of a few.  Wouldn't the
better response be to address those committing the offense?
        My final point:  Raving is a form of self-expression and threfore
insured by the First Amendment.  We must fight to keep raves legal
                                                                            
            Marc Egley
        
        Now the complainant in the whole ordeal made a response to my letter
which appeared in the June 7 issue.  All i can really say is that this guy
must be one of those arrogant, ego driven persons who believes he is well
informed on a subject when in reality he knows little.  I can only add that
it serves as a great example of the generation gap the rave phenomena
represents.  This is our thing that the "grown-ups" just don't understand,
and is therefore precious.   So here's the letter, read it and =D.  (btw,
notice how much more space his letter gets)

        "Raving Mad"
                Marc Egley:  Your response to the article about a "rave"
that blocked my business on March 2 needs some major corrections.
         I do not have any misperceptions about the kind of event referred
to as a rave.  While the very first organizers of such events may have had
benign intentions, there has not been a "rave event" anywhere in the United
States withoust attracting underage drinkers and substance abuse.  The event
mentioned here ("UFO") was no different, as you confirmed in your letter.
        I said I observed the sale of "beverages."  The fact is, these could
be alcoholic or non-alcoholic drinks.  In any case, the sale of beverages is
regulated and supposedly controlled by the county.  Was the facility
properly licensed for this event?
        If this rave was about "PLUR" (Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect), why
did it take place at a facility with two (!) toilets for 1,500 to 2,000
people, as well as 12 (!) parking stalls?
        How about your respect for families with small children who were
deprived of sleep for an entire weekend night?     [side note:  event was
nowhere near any residential area]
        How about your love for sick animals who could not reach a
veterinarian clinic that night?
        How about your respect for neighboring property owners when
party-goers defecated on their lawns and left beer cans and other remnants?
[sorry, but i can't help what other people do, does this guy sound negative
or what =D]
        Recently, a rave in California claimed the lives of several underage
attendees.    [Where did he get this? Hard Copy?]  Do we have to risk lives
here when intoxicated and/or exhausted rave-goers hit the roads after a
sleepless, heavy-metal brainwash therapy?     [hey, he must like the music too!]
        Oh, I almost omitted to tell you why Madison Police looked "the
other way."  The property where your "UFO-Rave" took place is owned by a
former Madison judge and practicing attorney.  With an entrance fee of $17
per person, the gate was approximately $30,000.  I wonder how much was
donated to the American Cancer Society, the homeless, or to animal shelters.
                                                                        Jens
Leubow
                                                                        Madi
son Vetrinary Clinic

Damn I say!   well i hope it was a good read for y'all, food for thought.

                Peace     Marc
        


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ugh....okay, i know take back trying to accurately describe the music that
steven kaye was playing during that set...

sorry....

that's what i would say it sounded like...i thought it was acid tancey, but
had a west coast type funk element in it......sorry.

btw, thanks for the free mix tape you tossed to me :)

--jeff/stuff (that guy who doesn't know anything)

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Hopefully some of ya out there in the mw-raves family can help me out
here...

1) I own a pair of Gemini XL-BD10s. Bottom of the line, but it's what I
could afford. My question is, where should I set the weight at the end of
the tone arm, and the anti-skid knob to? I don't have any manuals. My
friend scratches on my system and I hardly ever do. If anybody has these
tables and can rattle off thier settings for me, or tell me how to
determine what are good values, please do so.

2) I'm using a Realistic mixer that is on loan, so I need to buy myself
one. From watching other people spin I'd say the features I want most are:
2 EQs that will let me cut out or "bring forward" certain frequencies in
the mix, a xfader, and volume control on the cue channel. I don't have
much to spend at all... any reccomendations? Or is there a web page
anywhere with a feature comparison?

3) I'm also buying a sound card to do music composition, internally at
first and probably eventually syncing to external devices and using my
computer as a sequencer. (I have a PC btw). I've narrowed my choices down
to either the Roland RAP-10 (I have a source) or the newish Turtle Beach
Tropez+. Can anybody out there comment on or make reccomendations between
the two?

Thanks for ya help...
...Gage

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Greetings all...I'm looking for a 1200 for under $400...anyone have 
suggestions???

---brian


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>does anyone know what's going on w/ CHARM? kell? kevin? ed? mike?


As far as I know its all A O K!


>pete sed [on pb-cle-raves]:
>=================================================================
>p.s. CHARM, this friday is in the process of changing locations; keep
>callin the infoline even though it was shut off.
>
>first of all i thought it wuz to be held on saturday, has it changed?
>i called the illuminator voice mail # and it asks for a mail box #,
>which of course i don't have. i hope it's still going on cuz i wuz
>looking forward to this...

There is another party there on Friday with my Lexington Brothers: Trevor
Lamont and in his first "real party" appearance: Mutt   hee hee... check
him out he's come a long way since he started spinning :)  That's all I
know about that party though... Trevor?  wanna fill us in?

>oooh hey kell if yur still spinning at the party, don't forget that
>scott henry / dieselboy mixed tape i wuz gonna get off yah!

DOH!  busted!  :)  hahahahahahahahahahahahahah


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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CHARM is ON and is ALL GOOD.
ILLUMINATOR voice mail is fucked up as of today (WED)
but they hope to fix it soon, but...

it is STILL on for this SATURDAY. june 15 1996...
it is STILL in DAYTON, OHIO ( where we ALL know the VIBE is THICKITY THICK!)
it is STILL only $5 bucks to get in ( probably meaning you should COME EARLY!)
it is STILL promising to be PHAT AS PHUCK.

lineup includes:

VAPOURSPACE (MARK GAGE)
ffrr recordings/plus8/probe/~swim

ALISON
beat non stop/los angeles

DJ KEVY KEV (me)
network23/kg2/columbus

TODD SINES
accelerate/peacefrog/planetE

MONOCHROME
21/22corp/ele mental

TAMARA PALMER
urb magazine/l.a.

LUCIOUS DAN SMACK
columbia missouri massive

DJ KELL
lexington kentucky

DIVINE
illuminator/ele mental

CYLERT
illuminators

SPINBOY (matt the fresh haircut boy)
illuminators

JIMI (artist formerly known as doom)
illuminators

that is the word as i know it - and arsh was at my hut sunday night to give
me my final stack of flyers. see ya there.

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tribe baby.

talk/e at ya soon.
Kev.

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>3) I'm also buying a sound card to do music composition, internally at
>first and probably eventually syncing to external devices and using my
>computer as a sequencer. (I have a PC btw). I've narrowed my choices down
>to either the Roland RAP-10 (I have a source) or the newish Turtle Beach
>Tropez+. Can anybody out there comment on or make reccomendations between
>the two?

Go witht he Turtle Beach card, if anything.  The RAP-10 tain't very good.

Altho the AWE-32 has built in digital effects on each channel, plus two-band
EQ and a digital interface to hook up to a digital audio card such as the
CARD/D.

But the sound quality is a beat muddier than the Turtle Beach card, but only
because most people don't know how to set the EQ through MIDI and hence ...

Anyways, while those cards are all good and all you should probably just
invest in a multi-port MIDI card and pick up sampling keyboard, etc.  The
reason being is the multiple outs for isolating sounds and messing them up.
Altho the effects and EQ on the AWE-32 might be good if you were just using
the AWE for you basic percussion sounds.

earache

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lets all give three cheers for the six federal judges that today upheld the
temporary injunction on the parts of the Telecomm Act of 1996 that
prohibits transfer of what the government deems to be offensive/subversive
material over the internet including the monitoring of private e-mail
messages........as one judge put it "the Internet desrves the utmost
protection from government intrusion".......fukkin a right.....the judges
ruled that they interpreted the sections governing censorship of the
internet to be in direct violation of 1st ammendment rights and upheld the
tempoary injunction (which went into effect only days after the bill was
signed into law) until the ACLU's class action lawsuit against the federal
government for violation of 1st amendment rights could be heard and
decided.......chalk up one for the CYBERSPACE REVOLUTION!!!

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 12 10:30:17 1996
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I was typing a big huge long post about CHARM for mw-raves when
my computer at work crashed.  I'll type it all again, but for 
now,

Yes, CHARM is happening this Saturday.  The space is secure.
A second (smaller) sound system has been added to accomodate
the DJs who were not promised a slot but who have been going
around telling everyone they were going to spin (*looks over
in Cylert's direction*).  The space has clean restrooms and
you will not be dancing under basketball hoops.  All DJs and
Vapourspace are confirmed and will be there.  Admission is
only $5.  The voicemail people have been giving us the 
runaround... we're on it.

Mike

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> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
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> 
> The Communication Decency Act was ruled Unconstitutional today and an
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> 
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> US Court Strikes Down Internet Indecency Law
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 12 12:35:43 1996
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September 14th, 1996 - Milwaukee Wi

Dynamic Groove presents:


S e n s o r y   O v e r l o a d


stay tuned for details...

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Hear, hear,

Why is there no trance in the midwest, especially GOAtrance. All the guys on the
West Coast get the good stuff. I'm tired of Detroit blips and bleeps--I want
more journeys, more epics at my parties. Now I know why no one dances at parties
any more--the music has become so minimal is has become undanceable! There is
literally no energy left in some Detroit stuff--and house--don't get me started.


When I see the crowd shake their hands in the air when a simple bass drum and
one cymbal track hits the PA, I just have to laugh......what about layers and
melody? Give some respect to those who take days to make a track as oppossed to
those who can walk into any studio in Detroit and walk out 8 hours later with a
DAT ready minimalist track that they know will make it big because they know the
best DJ's on certain labels.......bring back the journey.........

murmur


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okay, i know this is a little bit late, but i just got home and got all my
internet shit figured out.

in regards to the trance question---

i dont know why jeff!! i LOooOoooOOOoVe trance. it seems to me that the
past few times i have gone to a party, the only time i have really started
to have fun is when i have heard trance (or jungoOOL)---hrrrmmm...strange
huh?

but anyways, i have been away from cleveland so long, and i just wanted to
make one more comment.  about two weeks ago someone on pb-cle-raves made a
comment about trilogy, and whether to go or not.

well, i hate trilogy...but that is because of the club atmosphere. i went
on sunday and wasnt expecting to have a good time at all. (although the
last time i went i had a pretty cool time)...i started having a really
shitty evening b/c i got burned by THREE count them THREE cigarettes just
walking around, the guys at the bars suck about giving you water, and i
CANNOT stand all the stupid girls grinding with one another on the catwalk
above the bar while a bunch of drunk guidos drool and catcall to them--talk
about making me sick. why dont they fuckign get rid of that so we all dont
have to watch. all of the voyeurs should go to a strip joint and all of
those girls should follow them and get paid for it.grrrrr. all of this was
really pissing me off, until i realized the three redeeming factors:

1. the kids in the house room. there may be a bunch of fucks in the main
room and even in the house room, but the raver crowd and the nice people
make up for that. its a LOT better than it was about a year ago, and there
are starting to be a lot more kids representing. yay!!

2. someone in the main room was playing some really good jungle...and that
kind of eased my tension with the three cigarette burns =P
hahah...actually, i only have a good time there if i like the music, and
this started putting me in a good mood.

3. ian mariano-trance--i danced my ass off. last time i went to trilogy the
redeeming factor, was again, ian mariano. (although at that time i didnt
know it was him)...but anyways..his sets are the best part of the night,
b/c all the losers start to clear out and there is more room to dance to
that wonderful music. i LooOOOOooOOOove trance.


so there you have it. three reasons why last sunday i had an *excellent*
time even with the cigarette burns =P and i totally wasnt expecting it at
all.. i guess trilogy has improved since i went away to chicago.

and a few more comments:

no one *ever* knows who the djs are in any of the rooms at trilogy? whats
up with that..

who spins up in the top bar?? i went up there once, and there was some
really really nice music up there, i think it was some soft/spacey trance:
stuff that i would like to dance to in the main room, but you know thats
not goign to go over very well =P

haha..well anyways...

i'll be in cleveland indefinitely...sooooooo...

kate O+





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>When I see the crowd shake their hands in the air when a simple bass drum and
>one cymbal track hits the PA, I just have to laugh......what about layers and
>melody? Give some respect to those who take days to make a track as oppossed to
>those who can walk into any studio in Detroit and walk out 8 hours later with a
>DAT ready minimalist track that they know will make it big because they
know >best DJ's on certain labels.......bring back the journey.........

?  What the hell are you talking about?

I have yet to find cheesier music than happy hardcore, minus West Coast
trance breakz.  And the trance from Europe, most notably Germany and France
is just plain goofy.  

No disrespect intended, but trance blows - minus some GOA and experimental
stuff I've heard.

And as for the time=quality equation ... nay say I!  Not to mention most
trance I've heard uses on the outside of 8 patterns total.  And they aren't
even very tricky or intricate patterns.

earache

PS. I've yet to hear techno more souless than trance, with the exception of
gabber.
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 12 14:28:50 1996
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On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Matt Chinn wrote:
 
> Why is there no trance in the midwest, especially GOAtrance. 
----
personally, i think the goa scene is very pretentious. you get all these 
pple getting off on indian terminology (chakra, etc) and listen to the music
that the natives have not even heard of. its cool to be open-minded and all,
but keep it real...know the roots...blah..blah..blah. i like it, but cant we
just call it trance? :>
 
> When I see the crowd shake their hands in the air when a simple bass drum and
> one cymbal track hits the PA, I just have to laugh......what about layers and
> melody? 
----
heh...dont you just love the trends? :>

> Give some respect to those who take days to make a track as oppossed to
> those who can walk into any studio in Detroit and walk out 8 hours later 
----
yeah, but also give respect for those who build the scene. detroit scene has 
been around for more than 10 years now. there's always a fair share of those
'fillers' artists in every genre, but some tracks out there just rule!

babbling my way through a hot summer
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Okay, I guess I'm kinda stuck in the dark here.  What is goa trance? And 
how is it different than other styles of trance? I'm not a big trance 
fan, so I don't know anything about goa.

thanks,
chris e


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Ok, some people have been asking about eqiupment and i have found a good place
to order shit from.  It's called inter-outlet and it's on the web.  They sell
factory remanufactored 1200's for about $400.  Basically they are new table
that had a little flaw so they had to be sent back and can't be sold as new
anymore.

Also the guy also sells gemini ps-626 for $155, cheaper than an other dj supply
i have found.  He is not a dj supply store though, so you will need to get
cartidges/needles, slipmats and headphones on your own.

Well here is his e-mail address.  It's:  order@inter-outlet.com

tell him that matt suggest that you talk to him.


peace, love, and lollipops

dj joff

joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 12 15:59:38 1996
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I just wanted to say that they east lansing party is getting bigger and better
every weekend.  We had a lot of dj's show up last night and a good number of
people who love to listen to them spin.

I'm not sure all of what happend last night, i had to leave early a little
after 1am.  But for the most part the dj's are really good, no big names yet,
even though Will Web asked for directions, but wasn't there when i was.  But it
is deffinitly a good time.  Dj's that spin just for the loveof it.  The vibe
is very positive too.

If anyone is interested in spinning you can e-mail me privately and i can give
you some info.  We had a lot of people show up to spin last night so i suggest
if you are making a drive (which it is worth i think) you get in contact to
make sure everything is good.  If you don't spin but just want to have a good
time, come on over.  I'll give you directions if you want.  Just e-mail me.


Peace, Love, and Lollipops

dj joff


joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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HEY HEY HEY!

 Just to expound on what Becca said before.. YEah, I'll be there with 
bells on, ready to dance!!! =) I haven't gotten so excited about 
somehting for a while.... Most of you all know who I am, so I'll see you 
there.. If you're going and have never met "the snugglebunny", FIND ME! 
=) *grin* See ya's Sat!!

 BTW, we ARE doing breakfast, and we want it to be a big one... So, all 
netravers plan to stay awake long enough to do Denny's or whatever!! =D

*hugs-n-smooches*

-Becky =)


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> > Give some respect to those who take days to make a track as oppossed to
> > those who can walk into any studio in Detroit and walk out 8 hours later 

> yeah, but also give respect for those who build the scene. detroit scene has 
> been around for more than 10 years now. there's always a fair share of those
> 'fillers' artists in every genre, but some tracks out there just rule!

Wasn't all of "Sheet One" written in an afternoon?

It's not the tools you use or how you use them; it's the results that
matter.  Everyone has their individual tastes, of course.  But to make gross
generalizations concerning various styles based on nothing more than how
many instruments, patterns, time involved or whatever is just silly... at
least to me.  

If anything, good music is comprised of sequences of sounds that strike up a
_resonance_ in the listener.  We're all different, and each of us have our
individual "frequencies.

Find yours and rejoice.  Help others find theirs and rejoice.  Get together,
share in each others' happiness, and this group resonance is a... umm,
hey... a vibe.  How about that.  :)

In other words, understand that we have different needs and wants and work
together to bulid something to bring us closer instead of concentrating on
driving us apart.  Heavy shit will be (and in many ways is already) upon us;
we've got to stick together as much as we can.


-- 
Craig Stodolenak
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Tonight is the second installation of refreshed...

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>Okay, I guess I'm kinda stuck in the dark here.  What is goa trance? And 
>how is it different than other styles of trance? I'm not a big trance 
>fan, so I don't know anything about goa.
>
>thanks,
>chris e

first of all as with most kinds of techno the best thing to do is go and
listen to some. you can never really do a good job of explaining music with
words. that said, goa trance is a form of trance music ranging from 130 bpm
to 150 bpm, with most stuff in the 145 bpm range. it has a more psychedil
approach to it, with more use of stereo effects and spacey sounds. it
originally was popular at beach parties on the island of Goa, India, and the
drug of choice there was acid. it's excellent headphone music because you
hear the funky noises jumping from ear to ear. a lot of the older goa that's
more energy oriented is rather cheesy. a lot of the deeper stuff however is
excellent.

as for appreciating goa trance and trance in gerenal, the thing i've always
liked about it is it's ability to take you somewhere, space you out, and
without the help of any chemicals. the first party i ever went to, i stood
on a crowded dance floor and closed my eyes, still being able to see the
strobe firing. i reached this point where i was dancing without thinking
about it, and some unknown period of time passed before i said "whoa" and
realized what had just happened.

there is a lot of trance out there which is bland and sounds just like 20
other trance tracks. but the same thing can be said for house, except it
would be more like 100 tracks.

to this day i still think trance and strobes (used in small amounts - not
left on frying your brain) are an excellent combo. if you want a good
example of this, come to Madison on july 13th for the next UFO. Erotishock
always makes good use of strobes.

for anyone interested, maybe i will finally finish that goa tape i said i
was gonna do months ago. i've recently realized that one of the drawbacks in
spinning several kinds of music is it's very easy to start focusing on
another style before you actually make a tape of something.

as for goa trance at a party near you, Efex spins goa, and goa specialist
Thee-O from L.A. will be in in WI on july 20th for Elysium. oh and kate, NRG
Boy from Baltimore who's set you liked so much was probably spinning goa. :)

-kc



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last time i heard traxx he spun straight up ghetto house...

					that's all i know..
						
						jon h.
			


	PaRaNoRmAl specialist
	



On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Dan Smith wrote:

> >        * TRAXX * ................................D-Jax Flavor/Chicago
> 
> DJ Traxx is on Djax?  I dont believe I've heard any of this cat's
> releases.  I've heard 'em spin, and it wasnt DJax material back then.
> More like house with diva wailin', but that always was in st.louis.
> what is the scoop?
> 
> 
> Luscious Daniel Smack
> robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
> http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi
> 
> 

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On 12 Jun 1996, Matt Chinn wrote:

> Why is there no trance in the midwest, especially GOAtrance. All the
> guys on the West Coast get the good stuff. I'm tired of Detroit blips
> and bleeps--I want more journeys, more epics at my parties. Now I know
> why no one dances at parties any more--the music has become so minimal
> is has become undanceable! There is literally no energy left in some
> Detroit stuff--and house--don't get me started.

anyone who was at the m-plant/7th city/planet e party three weeks ago and
saw the live performances by dbx and rob hood can tell you that there is a
hell of a lot of energy left in detroit.

there are plenty of dj sets in detroit that i have seen recently that have
been "epic journeys."  derrick may at the metroplex party, richie hawtin
at jak-o-lantern, carl craig at the m-plant/7th city/planet e party,
claude young whenever he gets behind two turntables.

> When I see the crowd shake their hands in the air when a simple bass drum and
> one cymbal track hits the PA, I just have to laugh......what about layers and
> melody? Give some respect to those who take days to make a track as
> oppossed  to those who can walk into any studio in Detroit and walk
> out 8 hours later with a DAT ready minimalist track that they know will
> make it big because they know the best DJ's on certain
> labels.......bring back the journey.........


layers piled on top of each other are not the markings of a good track.
anyone can take a drum pattern and pile on layers of whatever on top of it
to make it supposedly more listenable.

the ethos of a minimalistic track is less=more.  i believe it is much more
difficult to construct a "minimal" track than to layer tons of stuff on
it.  and, if one listens closely, there is a hell of a lot going on in a
track that is minimal (if it is done correctly).

listen to anything by basic channel, robert hood, dbx, the concept series
by richie hawtin, cabinet records, etc.  while they don't have layers of
melodic hooks and whatever, they are very complex rhythmically.  these
blips and bleeps you speak of build on each other and work together with
the bass and percussion to form a track that, albeit minimal at times, is
rhythmically challenging.  plus, there is a lot more heart and soul put
into these tracks that one can feel as opposed to a bland, generic, boring
sounding trance track. listening to detroit tracks (as well as chicago
stuff by paul johnson, hyperactive, boo williams, etc) you can feel the
funk coming out of them.  it doesn't sound artificial.

i can dance to these tracks better than zoning out (falling asleep) to
trance.  the minimalism serves a function and makes a statement.  its
there to make you get down out on the dancefloor.

regarding time, it doesn't take days to make a good track.  it doesn't
take hours to make a good track.  the amount of time taken to make a track
is completely irrelevant.  what matters is the effort put into it and the
quality of the music that results.  i've heard good tracks made in 2 hours
and i heard them made in 2 days.  i've even heard them made in 2 minutes
(case in point: the live performances of ectomorph combining the music
they are performing with a dj spinning the locked grooves on their records
to create a new track).

jeff mills, shake, and the rest of the detroit collective don't stroll
into their studios and mass produce tracks assembly line style to "make it
big."  they make tracks as expression of their creativity.  and if their
tracks just happen to "make it big", its due to the quality of the music.
not because they know "certain big time djs and their labels."  the
majority of their music, they put out on their own labels and don't rely
on record label bigwigs to put it out.  that alone is a huge part of the
detroit mindset. autonomous creative control.  you don't see mad mike of
UR/submerge waiting for mr. bigtime to play the music he
makes/distributes.


the journey you speak of never left in the first place....


aaron bennett
western michigan university/black nation records-kalamazoo
99benne4@lab.cc.wmich.edu

halfway between detroit and chicago....



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I just heard that Spacetime Continuum would be playing with Orbital in
Chicago on July 3. Does anybody have more information abou this? I will
not miss Orbital again...

-Gage

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hey all,
oy, i feel so young again!  this is gonna be so old skool. :)
anyway, i was thinking about a net.meet, and i know they don't always
work, but then if you were at Fantastic Voyage last summer you knwo how i
am about these things...
anyway, i'm just interested in seeing who is planning on attending this
soiree, (sorry, i don't do french), so come on out of the woodwork and
stand tall, shout out your name, and say, "hey! i'm gonna be at CHARM!" 
remember, it's only $5, and we'll be doing breakfast in the morning, so
what more can you ask for?  oh yeah, Vaporspace is headlining. :)
-becca


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>Greetings all...I'm looking for a 1200 for under $400...anyone have
>suggestions???
>
>---brian


mailorder



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>Well, there might be a couple really. I'm currently doing a radio show at
>Notre Dame's FM station. The two hours are divided enabling me to cover a
>diverse spectrum of music. The first hour is essentially your standard college
>radio station fare. The second is devoted to techno, house, tribal, acid
>jazz. . . you get the picture. Unfortunately, there isn't any good vinyl shops
>in SB.

i know ppl in er at ohio univeristy that have radio shows that get the
records sent ot them by the record co. if you wright them they might send
you stuff to play. im not sure what all the particulars are aobut the
process but itmight be worth a shot for you.

simple



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>> THE VIBE
>> but overall i sensed a large arrogance in the
>> place....attitude all over the place....
>attitude, hell yeah, someone even called me a faggot when

living in chicago for 2yrs after living in dayton all my ife until then i
can only imagine how little vibe nyc has. (also taking into concideration
the ppl i know that at from that neck of the woods.)

 simple



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From: ARASH MORADMAND <s002axm@discover.wright.edu>
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hey everyone this is arash,

The voic mial has not been working for the past 3-4 days...but it's working now. 
The peaple runing the system just whanted to miss with us to see what we would 
say...so after runing around for 2 day's I finally got them to resolve the 
problem....

anyhow..the party is looking great...the space is vary nice, it's an old 
foundry...the sound is going to kick some ass...and there will be a small second 
sound system....

Bring water with you. There is no water at the space..GET SMART will be doing the 
drinks...and I'm sure he'll have water, but just in case....

the party is only $5 so please try and support us with this (after all we'er 
doing this for all you) and if you enjoy ourself's it will be well worth us going 
through all this...if you have't figured it out by know, we'er not doing this for 
the money...

look for directions soon....or call the voice mail and tell me how nice my voice 
is....:) please, if you have any quistions just reply...

Arash 
illuminator

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ok simce everyone is talking bout it i might as well  ask now...
does anyone have any goo dgoatance /trance mixtape suggestions?

also is anyone familliar with dj 151 deep? im pret sure he spins goatrance,
but not sure.

simple



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Just got back from reFRESHed's second event.  I've gotta say, that's some 
of the best $4 I spent.  Even though it  was a 45 minute drive to get to 
the majestic from my house, I didn't mind.  There were probably about 
25-30 people there, maybe not even that many.  The lights are awesome! 
And they're the same ones that will be used at bubbilicious this weekend- 
just when I thought I couldn't get more stoked about THAT party... The 
music was great too.  I think it was Paul E. Wog that played "Don't 
Laugh" and the "crowd" went wild.  Well, not me. I was feeling a little 
ill until 11:30 or so.  I don't get why it takes me 3 hours to start 
dancing, but that's the way it happens.  Good things: free water! clean 
bathrooms! and of course the music and lights! Bad things: It's a 45 
minute drive from my house! :( Funny things: These 2 girls, Shawna and 
another girl whose name I can't remember, got one of the cops to dance! 
It was definitely a sight to see.  I'll be there every week for sure. 

Props to Clinton and the basscorps crew!

chris e


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Okay, I was driving home from the extremely remote Majestic Ballroom, 
when I thought that it would be great to throw my own party.  But seeing 
how I have to sell things to get rnough money to go to bubbilicious, it 
seemed kinda unrealistic to me. But then I got this idea: (and remember 
that Iwas under the influence of the most mind-altering drug in the 
world: lack of sleep) have a free party in the metrodome!  Now it might 
sound ridiculous, but stay with me.

Billy Graham is coming to town (as all minneapolis people must know by 
now, what with all the hype)  And when he's in town, he'll be spreading 
the "good word" to people in the metrodome.. for free! So here's my plan- 
I'm going to scout out the security and space on the first day of the 7 
or 8 day happening.  I'm going to find a nice, secluded area of the dome 
that is fairly accessible. It shouldn't be hard, it'll probably be a 
stairwell.  I'll continue to scout out the area over the next couple of 
days (remember, you can get in free!) and on the last night, or one of 
the later nights in any case, I'm going to sneak a sound system into the 
space.  How am I going to do that??? Simple. The "sound system" will be a 
walkman with headphone speakers.  My friend has a few cheap-o lights that 
we can probably get running on battery power, and we'll set those up as 
well.  Of course, we'll need some good mixtapes.  This whole party is 
subject to complete cancellation, and it'll probably be limited to about 
8 people, total.  It's an unrealiztic dream, but it'll be damn cool if I 
can pull it off.

I've got a voice mail system that I've never used, and if things go as 
planned, I'll open up the voice mail as an info-line.

stay tuned

chris e

PS- net.ravers get in free. Other people have to bring me a bag of 
corn-nuts or something. (j/k)


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Ahh yet another night at Refreshed ...

I apologize to anyone on the list that had to suffer my abuse of the
crossfader - I kept throwing up short tracks at the start of my set and
fucking myself cause I was in a nervous panic - but once I got to the deep
shit I was good to go for a bit.  :)  ahh well good tunes and I started
having fun once I started throwing up good ol glenn underground and friends:)

mm jazzy deep house with a tinge of disco flavour - all delivered with the
sublime smooth groove and warm fuzzy bass lines.  I just wish I could mix it
better :)  anyways, a more profound appreciation for my deep records.  yummy :9

big props to clinton for consistently working on this event.  the drive is a
bitch, but hey - what can ya do?

seeya fuckkkkerz at bubblicious.

earache

PS. I got a shitload of flame mail about my comments about Trance.  All I
have to say is that people need to relax their bowels when reading what I
write.  I would think that after 3 years people would get used to me by NOW :)

PSS. I'm thinking of starting a 312 mailing list for chicago house and house
in general.  if anyone that has admined a mail list can let me know what a
bitch it is, I'd appreciate that.  Thanks :)

earache

earache

earache

earache

CHRIS EGE I din't meet you at refreshed :(  apparently my mixing turned your
shit out on the curb ;) hehe

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>to this day i still think trance and strobes (used in small amounts - not
>left on frying your brain) are an excellent combo. if you want a good
>example of this, come to Madison on july 13th for the next UFO. Erotishock
>always makes good use of strobes.

umm just kidding. UFO has been postponed until september. still worth coming
to the #1 city to live in according to Money magazine though. ya think they
took into account the rave scene when deciding that? :)

-kc 


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I have a question ARash....

 *smartass mode on* Where did you learn to spell?? Wright State teach you 
that?? *ducks*

 Just teasing! See you all there, and thanks for the side note about 
bringing water.. I'll stop by the store and possibly pick up a couple 
gallons of distilled, so that people who don't have any can have some... 
*smile* Oh yeah.. I'm bringing another surprise that goes right along 
with the party name! *wink*

*hugs-n-smooches*

-Becky =)


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                       The FreeBass Collective presents

                           Summer of Love 1969-1996
                            Friday June 28th, 1996
                             Milwaukee, Wisconsin

                            Urban Shamans include:

                  jedidah  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                  jethrox  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                     dzak  Toolbox Tunes, Milwaukee, WI

                               kee  Madison, WI

           karma one  The FreeBass Collective/Network 10, Milwaukee, WI

           shira kahn  The FreeBass Collective/Phreakzine, Milwaukee, WI

                phranque  The FreeBass Collective/CIB Milwaukee, WI


The FreeBass Collective is going to tear the scene a new asshole this
summer by throwing a series of FREE parties all summer long in the Home of
the HardCorps, Milwaukee, Wisconsin to show all the greedy entities that we
DO NOT need them
                     polluting and stagnating OUR scene!!!
                This is the kickoff party!!!  Don't miss it!!!

            for more info check The FreeBass Collective web site at
            http://www.execpc.com/~blitz or e-mail blitz@execpc.com
                    or call 414.256.1350 the day of the party

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
  The cutting edge is found only in the morphing shadows of the underground
 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

                  ____     __________       FreeBass Collective/
       ____      /   /    /___   __ /_____  Network 10 Productions/
      /   /     /   /     /__/  /_____   /  bLiTz GrafX Studios/
     /   /     /   /     ___/  /     /  /   http://www.execpc.com/~blitz
    /   /     /   /     /  /  /     /  /    blitz@execpc.com
   /   /_____/   /     /  /  /     /  /     4230 North Oakland Ave. #246
  /   __    /   /     /  /  /     /  /      Milwaukee, WI, USA, 53211-2042
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/_________/_________/__/__/     /________/  Personal datalink:   414.659.2398

                *****bLiTz's Underground Warehouse*****
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
An online mail order warehouse selling the complete Drop Bass Network line
of records with more labels to be added soon, dj mix tapes, and phat-ass
rave clothing....the Underground Warehouse can be found on the WWW at
http://www.execpc.com/~blitz and click on the Underground Warehouse or for
an e-catalog, e-mail me with the subject "Underground Warehouse Catalog"
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I will be attending this wonderful bash in dayton... i couldn't
possibly let vapourspace for $5 pass me up!!!  I am going to dance until
they make me stop. ;)


		climb a tree,

			/> a n i e l  /-/ u l l
			raygundan[vrave]
			raygun@purdue.edu
			http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~atomboy

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Matt Chinn spewed verbal diarrhea:

:Why is there no trance in the midwest, especially GOAtrance. All the guys
on the
:West Coast get the good stuff. I'm tired of Detroit blips and bleeps--I
want
:more journeys, more epics at my parties. Now I know why no one dances at
parties
:any more--the music has become so minimal is has become undanceable! There
is
:literally no energy left in some Detroit stuff--and house--don't get me
started.

Excuse  me why I break rude here...

Why the FUCK do you have to slam one type of music to justify
your desire to hear another?  This pointless crap happens like
clockwork on this list, and I'm frankly sick and tired of it.
Most people grow out of this silly pissing contest mentality
in junior high.

You like trance, fine. Tell us all you love trance and be done
with it.  Why do you think you need to slam other styles
at the same time?

: Give some respect to those who take days to make a 
: track as oppossed to those who can walk into any studio in Detroit 
: and walk out 8 hours later with a DAT ready minimalist track that 

Time=quality, eh?  I'm sure there's a few Boston records
down at Musicland that'll make you happy then.

Why do I even bother...

  -d.w.
   raver braincell rescue project


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>PSS. I'm thinking of starting a 312 mailing list for chicago house and house
>in general.  if anyone that has admined a mail list can let me know what a
>bitch it is, I'd appreciate that.  Thanks :)
>
id be down with a 312 mailing list, that focused on chicago happenings, but
i personally dislike alot of house and esp s l o w c h i c a g o h o u s e.
after all clevland has its own mailing list why shouldnt chicago?

simple
312 resident



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>
>Why the FUCK do you have to slam one type of music to justify
>your desire to hear another?
>  -d.w.
>   raver braincell rescue project


chill the fuck out.
simple



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:>
:>Why the FUCK do you have to slam one type of music to justify
:>your desire to hear another?
:>  -d.w.
:>   raver braincell rescue project
:
:
:chill the fuck out.

You know what?  I'm tired of chilling out .

My problem with the original post was that the poster
felt he had to dis minimal techno because he liked
trance?  Why was that necessary?  What did it accomplish?

Should I have couched my objection in happy hippy speak?
Would that have been better?

  -d.w.
   the camel's back


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kctopitz@students.wisc.edu said...
[...]
> as for appreciating goa trance and trance in gerenal, the thing i've always
> liked about it is it's ability to take you somewhere, space you out, and
> without the help of any chemicals. the first party i ever went to, i stood
> on a crowded dance floor and closed my eyes, still being able to see the
> strobe firing. i reached this point where i was dancing without thinking
> about it, and some unknown period of time passed before i said "whoa" and
> realized what had just happened.

I'd have to agree whole-heartedly with this.  Sometimes this can even 
happen to me while I'm spinning the stuff.  Time stands still, or accelerates
depending on your perspective, and you're simply in the music.
 
[...]
> as for goa trance at a party near you, Efex spins goa, and goa specialist
> Thee-O from L.A. will be in in WI on july 20th for Elysium. oh and kate, NRG
> Boy from Baltimore who's set you liked so much was probably spinning goa. :)

Not to mention Huggee, Steven Kaye, myself and dj Brain.


- stevenJ
http://hyperreal.com/~stevenj/

Occupied America

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hey! i know i havent posted on here before but i thought id just raise my 
hand really quick and say that ill be at charm too.... im REALLY looking 
forward to it! ill see y'all there who will be there =)
		-Karla (kaykay from vrave)

OH! arash>thanks for the warning about the water! =) 

		SEE YA THERE! =)

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cmatts@artic.edu (christian matts) said...
> 
> ok simce everyone is talking bout it i might as well  ask now...
> does anyone have any goo dgoatance /trance mixtape suggestions?

Get Efex's 'Excursions ion Goa and Trance'.  It's a double-tape set
that ROCKS.  Also, if you can find it, Huggee's tape is the
prettiest trance you'll ever hear.


- stevenJ
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Forwarded message:
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: DJ Steven Kaye <weasel@cyborganic.net>
> Subject: Re: trance
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Jeff S. Stern wrote:
> 
> > welp, just for the rekkid, Speedy did, in fact, spin trance at some point
> > during
> > the weekend...i believe it was very late in his set as he was tagteaming with
> > steven kaye..perhaps he changed styles to mix with kaye's west coast trancey
> > stystylees :)
> > 
> 
> Gawd... I hope I don't get thought of as a 'west coast styleee' dj... The 
> majority of the stuff I played was off labels like Noom, Rabbit City, 
> Slip'n'Slide, Xavia, Bomba, Limbo, Loop, Labworks Ltd, Platipus and 
> Kickin... None of which I consider 'west coast styleee'.
> 
> Of course I haven't been out west for a while... so that might be what is 
> being played out there... Speedy did end our set with 'his' latest track 
> that he produced with Inertia... it was kinda funky west coast acid... 
> but that was as close as I remember to the style that we got...
> 
> On friday at Even Furthur Speedy spun right after Huggie who had just 
> finished a rocking goa set.... and decided to bring the tempo down a bit 
> and played trance [not as hard as usual] but with a funky house element...
> 
> oh well... back to lurk mode...
> sk
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 					-unknown graffiti writer
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> 

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> Date: 12 Jun 96 16:17:42 EDT
> From: Matt Chinn <MCHINN@CSI.compuserve.com>
> Subject: MUSIC[0014]:Dancing-->Bad-->???
> 
> Off the newswire:
> 
>    Even drug-free ravers risk developing lethal overheating in nightclubs which
> lack ventilation and free water, a scientific study today claimed.
>    Four hours' frenetic dancing in a typical nightclub environment could push
> body temperatures up to a potentially fatal temperature of 40C or 104F,
> Loughborough University researchers found.
>    After just one hour, dancers developed temperatures above the recommended
> World Health Organisation maximum of 38.2C or 101F.
>    Researcher Dr Ken Parsons, of Loughborough University's Department of Human
> Sciences, said it was unsurprising that an estimated 23 out of 100,000 clubgoers
> ended their night in casualty departments.
>    It was well known drugs including Ecstasy had been involved in some nightclub
> deaths, but in most instances the actual cause of death had been heatstroke, he
> said.
>    There were no laws governing temperatures in nightclubs, which are attended
> by about 500,000 people a week, but if they were factories people would be
> advised to leave, he said.
>    Ergonomist Dr Parson duplicated conditions in a "large" club with "fairly
> good ventilation" which he found had a temperature of 29C or 84F and relative
> humidity between 70-90%.
>    After an hour, his young experimental subjects had each lost a litre of sweat
> and had temperatures above the WHO maximum of 38.2c or 101F.
>    Correct body temperature is 37C or 98.4F.
>    Dr Parsons called for more research to develop practical guidelines, which
> could be offered by the Home Office to local authorities responsible for
> licensing clubs.
>    He said suitable measures to reduce heat stress in nightclubs would include
> increasing air circulation, providing water fountains and "chill out" rooms.
>    "Such cool areas away from the dance floors that provide a rest in clubs
> should not be seen to condone drug use, rather as sensible places to allow hot
> people to cool down," he said.
>    Dance scene experts agreed that some clubs had a long way to go to end
> overcrowding, overheating and inavailability of water.
>    Calvin Bush, a journalist at specialist dance magazine Muzik, said: "We have
> always stressed the importance of the availability of free water, not just for
> people who have taken drugs, but simply for people who have over heated and have
> a right to free tap water over the bar.
>    "I think it might be an over-reaction to put the dangers as strongly as this
> study.
>    "But of the 50 or so Ecstasy deaths in the last 5 years, one of the main
> factors has been overheating and dehydration."
>    Dr Parsons suggested "safe dancing" guidelines of 20 minutes rest for every
> 40 minutes dancing and one litre of water to be consumed every hour.
>  
> 

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On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Jeff Gage wrote:

> I just heard that Spacetime Continuum would be playing with Orbital in
> Chicago on July 3. Does anybody have more information abou this? I will
> not miss Orbital again...

	Tickets go on sale Saturday (don't know if it was last Sat or 
this Sat).  Orbital are excellent live, so you should definitely check 
into it.  They wear these headsets with penlights on either side so 
wherever they look, 2 beams illuminate.  Only thing is i heard Dead Can 
Dance is playing the same day.  If this rumor is true, i'd much rather 
see Dead Can Dance again... 

			n  o    a        h
			.. .  .   .    .      .         .



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>any more--the music has become so minimal is has become undanceable! There is
>literally no energy left in some Detroit stuff--and house--don't get me

I'm not from the midwest but from switzerland, europe; but I agree : the music
is now so minimalist that you can't really get into ...
There's another problem : elistism, a lot of people think that if the music
is made by world famous producers, or released on famous labels, then it IS
good music ... but sometimes it isn't, just boring beats without any energy.
Everybody is copying detroit minimalism and it sucks.

And sorry to say this but I think that all that electro rebirth movement
suck really bad : just like if the techno producer didnt wanted to turn on
jungle, but meanwhile wanted to change their 4/4 beat....

bye
dj terrorist

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>Okay, I guess I'm kinda stuck in the dark here.  What is goa trance? And 
>how is it different than other styles of trance? I'm not a big trance 
>fan, so I don't know anything about goa.

It's called GOA-TRANCE because it comes from GOA, herm, not really, in fact
it's mostly from Israel and London.

It's not too different from the german trance except that the rhythm is more
tribal (conga, bongo and so on) and the kick isnt that big. It's often
created with digital synth (novation bass station, boss dr660...) and that's
why it not too powerfull. (I mean you could have some good hard-trance but for
shure you'll NEVER get any HARD-GOA ??!!!  ;-)

GOA-TRANCE has become hype #1 and big commercial rip-off in various european
country as france, and uk. In fact in countries which hadn't their own
techno identity.

bye
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becca sed:
==================================================================
hey all,
oy, i feel so young again!  this is gonna be so old skool. :)
anyway, i was thinking about a net.meet, and i know they don't always
work, but then if you were at Fantastic Voyage last summer you knwo how i
am about these things...
anyway, i'm just interested in seeing who is planning on attending this
soiree, (sorry, i don't do french), so come on out of the woodwork and
stand tall, shout out your name, and say, "hey! i'm gonna be at CHARM!" 
remember, it's only $5, and we'll be doing breakfast in the morning, so
what more can you ask for?  oh yeah, Vaporspace is headlining. :)
-becca
====================================================================

uhm gee i'll be there...look for the asian dude prolly passing out
the Family Reunion flyers...actually if someone had sent some flyers
for CHARM my way, i could've gotten a bunch more evil thieveland 
ravahs to come down...speakin o which, i don't think kate can make it
cuz she's flying to bruce's wedding next week (which coinkidinkly is
the same date as my sister's wedding) - star's da best man (congrats
to both bruce & star!). and i beleive jeff taht stuffy guy has to work
as duz leah aka PebblesOH...i'll check w/ dawn & helena tho...i will
be bringing down my girly crysta & ben from columbus (the one that 
is having the house party w/ snuggles & slak on friday & walked into
mekka w/ nothing but his boxers & a t-shirt, not to be confused w/
ben page aka cylert)...see y'all there...

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On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Deckard wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Jeff Gage wrote:
> 
> > I just heard that Spacetime Continuum would be playing with Orbital in
> > Chicago on July 3. Does anybody have more information abou this? I will
> > not miss Orbital again...

Are there any tour dates for Milwaukee?  I know - chicago isn't but, 
still... any word?

> wherever they look, 2 beams illuminate.  Only thing is i heard Dead Can 
> Dance is playing the same day.  If this rumor is true, i'd much rather 
> see Dead Can Dance again... 

Where are Dead Can Dance playing?  I wouldn't mind seeing them too! :)

Tom

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:::CHARM update:::

CHARM is happening Saturday, June 15th, in Dayton, Ohio.  Directions to
the space will be posted on the Illuminator voicemail line.  I'll try to
get the directions posted here, also, but don't count on it.  The phone
number for the voicemail line is 513.496.1071.  As of yesterday afternoon
it was working.  If you leave a message, we probably won't get it until
after the party.  Do not request to be on a guest list.  The doors open at
10:00pm.  Admission is $5 at the door... no more, no less. 

You will experience many styles of music throughout the night; you will
not be bored.  The lineup for the main room is:
SPINBOY...illumi-friend and weekend dj at the asylum (dayton)
TAMARA PALMER...urb magazine editorgrrl (los angeles)
LUSCIOUS DAN SMACK...simply the smack (columbia, missouri)
MONOCHROME...elemental intellijungle gone detroit? (columbus)
TODD SINES...elemental trakmaker (columbus)
KEVY KEV...illumi-ele-friend whippin y'up into a frenzy (columbus)
MARK GAGE...vapourspace live performance (rochester, ny)
ALISON...bringing that california sunshine groove (los angeles)
KELL...ky's finest goa and slo breaks (lexington)
DIVINE...illumi-ele-justus friend welcoming the sunrise (dayton)

The second room lineup is not firm, but it may at least include:
JIMI...illuminator transcendance (dayton)
CYLERT...brace yourself (st louis / dayton)
ARASH...the illuminator-1 (dayton)
DIVINE...deserves to spin sooner than last (dayton)

As Arash posted, bring your own water.

There are other things to do if you want to get here earlier in the day:

Record shopping.  First I'll just tell you to go to Clubhead Records in
Cincinnati -- get off on one of the downtown exits and get to Main St,
which runs one-way to the north, on the eastern edge of the central city. 
Clubhead is a couple miles up Main, on the right side.  Or World Record in
Columbus -- I-70 to Rt 23 North (4th St), 4th St north several miles to
15th Ave on left, 15th to High St., go right, look for public parking and
walk the strip across from the OSU campus.  World Record is between
McDonald's and Wendy's. 

Dayton has not had a hip dance music shop since 1989-90, when Criminal
Records was open.  (*gets teary eyed*)  If you are into hip-hop or old
12"s and don't mind looking through thousands of used records, there is
Omega Music, on N. Main in the Santa Clara arts district (a couple miles
north of downtown.)  There are also a ton of 80s alternative, new wave,
and pop dance records at Renaissance, on Smithville Rd across from
AutoZone, just south of US 35, a few miles east of downtown.  On Brown St
near the UD campus there are a few CD shops --Trader Vics, 2nd Time
Around, and Gem City Records-- Take Main St south of downtown to Apple St
(by the hospital) and turn left, take a right on Brown which is the next
major intersection.  And in the Oregon District at the southeast corner of
downtown there is a larger Gem City store, on 5th St near Patterson, just
down the street from the White Tower, The New Neon Movies, and the
Greyhound station. 

College hangouts, coffee shops, galleries, etc: Brown Street, the Oregon
District, and the Santa Clara district (directions above).  Also, the
Village of Yellow Springs, 15 miles NE of downtown, is a popular spot --
ultra liberal and a great place to bike, hike or shop.  I-70 to US 68
south, or I- 675 to Dayton-Yellow Springs Rd east.  (email me for more
specific directions; I live there) 

All day on Saturday there will be a hispanic cultural festival going on at
the Fraze Pavilion in Kettering, one of the suburbs south of downtown.  It
is called the Festival Latino-Americana and will feature food, music,
arts, dancing, puppet shows and entertainment.  It sounds pretty cool..
and it's free.  At 7:30pm (or 8:30, depending on which announcement you
read), there will be a $5 concert by Latin jazz conga master Poncho
Sanchez and his combustive 11-piece band.  "come for a night of scorching
salsa and dance-inducing mambo beat!"  Take Main St (aka Rt 48, Far Hills
Ave) several miles south of downtown, past Dorothy Lane, to Lincoln Park
Blvd on the left.  If you see Stroop Rd you went too far.  Lincoln Park
Blvd will take you right to the pavilion.  Someone go to this thing and
get Poncho Sanchez and his band to come to the party, okay? 

The Dayton Museum of Natural History gives laser shows set to the Doors or
Pink Floyd in their humongous planetarium on weekend nights;  you'll have
to call them for directions.  (the number is in the book). 

The Air Force Museum is open until 5pm during the day.  If you're into
warplanes and rockets and the history of flight, it's something to do,
it's big, and it's free.  I-675 to Col Glenn Hwy, go right (west) on Col
Glenn, the museum is in the big hangars across the airfield to the right. 
Go to the next major intersection (Harshmann) and go right; the entrance
is about a quarter mile from there. 

Sometimes they have bands playing in the middle of downtown on Courthouse
Square.  Also downtown there is the Front St coffeehouse, on 1st Street
(not Front). 

Guess that's it for now.  See you at the party!

Mike

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***pre-flyer***

Sometime between june 19th and june 24th,
Minneapolis Gospel Music presents

GOOD NEWS COMING

This event will take place in a virgin venue, the largest that any 
minneapolis event has ever taken place in!

DJs to include:

Dieselboy
Terry Mullan
Omar Santana
Tony Gamboa
and many more

Plus, a special live PA by Billy Graham, representing "christian 
coalition" records

Tickets will be (get this) FREE!

more information to come.


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It's interesting that while I'm in the midst of a personal struggle to
define exactly what trance is that this topic shows up here on the list.
To be honest I still cannot settle onto a suitable definition of what
constitutes trance, but, I will try to put down what I've gleened so far
from my adventures in it...

The first thing I do when I seem to be at odds with something a person says
about something is to go to the dictionary and find out exactly what I'm
dealing with (more arguments start because people use the same word with
two definitions of it and neither knows the other means something
different).  In that light here's the history of the word trance:

1. a half-conscious state, seemingly between sleeping and waking, in which
ability to function voluntarily may be suspended.  2. a dazed or bewildered
condition.  3. state of complete mental absorbtion or deep musing.  4. an
unconscious, cataleptic, or hypnotic condition.  5. a temporary state in
which a medium, with suspension of personal consciousness, is controlled by
an intelligence from without and used as a means of communication.

Originally it is derived from the middle french word "transe" meaning
passage, and that from the Latin "transire" meaning to go across or to
passover.  In anycase there is a strong hint of travel or motion in the
word.  This I think is very important.  If it doesn't go anywhere its not
trance.  The gripe I hear most often about trance is that it's boring.
Fact is, so much of the music I hear everytime I go to buy records is
really boring.  I can't tell you how many house records I've gritted my
teeth and endured for all of 20 seconds before nearly falling asleep.
Boring music is a fact of life... knowing what is boring and what isn't
boring is the dj's job.  It's the price we pay for having music that is so
easy to make: anyone can make it, even people who would make really boring
records... and they do, obviously.

The unfortunate thing about trance is that if you make a boring house track
you can always speed it up and call it trance ;)  A while back I wrote a
little thing about the Funky Worm, and I've refrained from discussing
trance because so much of what I have to say is repetitive of that post.
Back when house music was emerging it was considered pretty boring...in
fact it was supposed to "trance you out".  I'll go ahead and cite Lidell
Townsend as a good example.  Or how about that incredibly over-played D-mob
track "Trance Dance"  :)

Since I've been trying to define trance (the musical genre) I've ruled out
the boring argument simply because it really isn't... It is more often the
dj that is boring than the music.  We've all heard a house track drone on
for just a little too long... :)  Trance is more forgiving to a boring dj
because it just becomes very even and monotonous and the dj can say, "hey
it's trance."  And lets face it there aren't to many really good trance
dj's that I can think of... everyone knows who the really good ones are and
well, it's slim pickings after that.

Just as I learned with Jungle, until you hear a really good dj spin it,
you'll never be able to grasp the true force of it.  I'm not shy about
saying a track is boring... believe me.  I've had to face off with record
store owners who stand there, red faced, and say, "what do you mean it's
boring?  THIS is so-and-so's record!  It's the BOMB man!"  *yawn*  boring
is boring... Finding good trance records is challenging.  I try to listen
for color and motion in a trance record (that's how I mix my sets... color
and motion)  Every sound has a color and a motion... a good record moves
around A LOT... or else it's boring... I can't really make that any
clearer... it's just something in my head.

I have been fooling around with trance again recently as a way of relaxing
and releasing tension.  The first tape I made to my satisfaction was about
three weeks ago.  It got really dark in the middle of the afternoon and the
wind picked up.  I grabbed a blank tape and went for the tables... 90
minutes later, I had a fairly inspired trance tape and a nearby town had
been pummled by a nastly little tornado.  A few days later I saw Twister...
and started to recall that Funky Worm post.

If house was the worm then Trance is the tornado... more specifically, it
was goa that seemed most inspired by that vertical worm.  House and
Breakbeat, and all of their spawn, have that basic Funky motion (you know
like a worm) and what Goa has in addition to that was spin.  I always think
of trance as atmospheric anyway... on a sunny day or starry night its
ambient... but the best time to skywatch is during a thunderstorm, and then
its trance.  House is a body based sound, in fact I remember that being the
whole argument about house.  That house denied the mind (sensory
deprivation) and liberated the body to think and express itself.  Trance
separates the mind from the body and takes the mind on a journey while the
body does what it does.  (as a random thought I'm just gonna mention The
Wizard of Oz, tornados and journeys)

As far as dancing... (hee hee)  well, no you probably won't have too many
opportunities to do those nifty little hip-hop moves but I'll be damned if
you CAN'T dance to trance.  If you can't dance to something... you're not
listening to it.  "and that's all I have to say about that."

Now, about those pretentious goa people... I think pretentious people can
all just fuck off... period.  It's unfortunate that a person's attitude can
ruin another person's musical experience.  Especially when they spout a
whole bunch of bullshit about chakras and Hindu philosophy... all that is
just words, what's important is YOUR personal experience... If it moves you
and makes you tingle then that's really all you need to know.  If you want
to learn all that stuff then you'll have some cool shit to think about.
But, you don't have to understand what a chakra is to have a transcedent
experience... :p  (even though the people who know that crap seem to think
so)  OK  I'm gonna get off this train of thought before I totally lose
whatever continuity I had.

Trance, in essence, is just faster house with more emphasis on the mental
experience than on the thumping body beat.  Oh yeah and there is breakbeat
trance, and some of my early goa records are actually slower than some of
my house records.  Don't be fooled by your preconceptions of something...
When you hear a really good trance Dj throw down and melt your brain...
your never hear it the same way again... :)

Anyway, enough outa me... Basically what I wanted to say was this:  If it's
boring it's because it's BAD.  And to be fair to those people who make
music... there is a profound difference between writing music and remixing
it so it isn't boring.  I've agonized over so many records begging whatever
force in the universe that might apply to "make this damn track do
something pleeeeeeaaaaase!"  5 minutes of an amazing hook are just five
agonizing minutes of a boring track... I've sulked away from so many
potentially good tracks that I just couldn't bring myself to buy because
they did the same thing over and over for 5 minutes... Trance, House,
Breaks or otherwise...

So, please don't condemn trance on the basis of a sea of bad trance records
and the lack of many good trance djs... You should be upset that you aren't
getting the full force of the music instead.

With Utmost Respect,


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Lexington, Kentucky                       Alpha-Numeric- kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu
Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 13 12:29:15 1996
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ok, about this goa trance thread, all i have to say is:
pick up Thee-O's mixtape, any one of the 5, actually.  he's 
from LA and he can really do the trick for ya if you're
in the mood for some goa trance (not a decision i usually make
consciously, in fact).  if anyone's interested, i can give you
his email addy....

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl

p.s. just in case any of you noticed, i have been unsubbed from 
mw-raves and just returned the day before yesterday...:)  glad
to be back :)

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ok, i've heard a rumor in st. louis (by which sources, i will not 
say...) that orbital AND prodigy will be in the general area
this summer...i wasn't told about chicago, just that they may come
to st. louieeee.  who knows....it would be awfully swell, tho :)
Damn Skippy!

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl

On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Jeff Gage wrote:

> I just heard that Spacetime Continuum would be playing with Orbital in
> Chicago on July 3. Does anybody have more information abou this? I will
> not miss Orbital again...
> 
> -Gage
> 
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> 

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On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Deckard wrote:

> 	Tickets go on sale Saturday (don't know if it was last Sat or 
> this Sat).  Orbital are excellent live, so you should definitely check 
> into it.  They wear these headsets with penlights on either side so 
> wherever they look, 2 beams illuminate.  Only thing is i heard Dead Can 
> Dance is playing the same day.  If this rumor is true, i'd much rather 
> see Dead Can Dance again... 

Thanks for the info. Personally I'd much rather see Orbital. Is this a
ticketmaster event?

-Gage

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>
> I just wanted to say that they east lansing party is getting bigger and better
> every weekend.  We had a lot of dj's show up last night and a good number of
> people who love to listen to them spin.
>          well the party got broken up shortly after words due to noise
violations, but htey are working on a new site...so stay tuned, and its on
Tuesdays,which is more dowards trhe week department rather than weekend:).
> I'm not sure all of what happend last night, i had to leave early a little
> after 1am.  But for the most part the dj's are really good, no big names yet,
> oi. I know this wasnt Matt's intensions, but the fact that you felt it
nesessary to type, "no big names yet" gets me a puffin smoke outa my ears.
There were big names there, Pat, better known as Action Jackson in the
old days was there to spin, but never got on, Steve Lammers a person
whose been a contributer (though we all are in our little way) spun, and
so did Bill the 12 year old prodigy (though I didnt get to hear the tike).
Not to mention Sid, who does a great job-(Sid I like that house track
you threw on)r.Perhaps the rest of us should take a mental not that its not the
name its
the talent that someone posesses that counts. If anyone needs a  "name" to draw
tehm into any party, god help you when you are trying to make your break in
anything out there in the world.
loud and clear and opinionated.
Diana


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 13 14:34:32 1996
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> be bringing down my girly crysta & ben from columbus (the one that 
> is having the house party w/ snuggles & slak on friday & walked into
> mekka w/ nothing but his boxers & a t-shirt, not to be confused w/
> ben page aka cylert)...see y'all there...

what is the 411 on this party? ed or steve can u post a flyer.

see u all there and at charm

-mark

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So I'd like to go to Charm but don't really want to drive all the way,
alone, in my radio-free car. So does anybody want to gimme a ride? I could
drive up to Chi or over to Indy and meet up with people, I'll share gas
and make conversation...


please email me privately or leave me a message @ 217.328.9685

-Jeff

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Oh BTW I'll be at The Letter G (not spinning :( ) on friday, so look for
me and say hi!

Never been to StL before... hoping this'll be a good first impression...

-Gage

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it might be too late to ask (and i prob souldnt go but ill ask anyhow , b/c
i probly wont get any positive replies.

is anyone have an extra seat intheir car form chicago to dayton for charm.
i might be able to find a place to crash b4 the return since  my [arents
live there andlived there untill 2yrs ago.

simple



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is this a joke?

>***pre-flyer***
>
>Sometime between june 19th and june 24th,
>Minneapolis Gospel Music presents
>
>GOOD NEWS COMING
>
>This event will take place in a virgin venue, the largest that any
>minneapolis event has ever taken place in!
>
>DJs to include:
>
>Dieselboy
>Terry Mullan
>Omar Santana
>Tony Gamboa
>and many more
>
>Plus, a special live PA by Billy Graham, representing "christian
>coalition" records
>
>Tickets will be (get this) FREE!
>
>more information to come.



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On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, christian matts wrote:

> is this a joke?

you only wish it was. MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

repent. and sell your phat pants to make money for billy.

dylan
worshipper of j.r. "bob" dobbs, the jesus that didn't get nailed.

> 
> >***pre-flyer***
> >
> >Sometime between june 19th and june 24th,
> >Minneapolis Gospel Music presents
> >
> >GOOD NEWS COMING
> >
> >This event will take place in a virgin venue, the largest that any
> >minneapolis event has ever taken place in!
> >
> >DJs to include:
> >
> >Dieselboy
> >Terry Mullan
> >Omar Santana
> >Tony Gamboa
> >and many more
> >
> >Plus, a special live PA by Billy Graham, representing "christian
> >coalition" records
> >
> >Tickets will be (get this) FREE!
> >
> >more information to come.
> 
> 

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Please post info on tickets for the orbital and space time event.

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does anybody have any info on the supposed upcoming dead can dance show??       

by the way, orbital is going to be at St. Andrews in detroit on July 1. tickets 
 cost 15 + a service charge. should be chill.                                   


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I just wanted to clarify what i really meant by the no big names.  To me they
are all friends and there isn't attitude with dj's.  I don't remember if i said
this last time, but actually i think it is a lot of fun because the dj's are
there for the pure enjoyment of it and that's what it should be all about.
I agree totatly with D. if you need big names to draw you in then you are
missing the point of it all.

I talked to the boys that threw the party the other day and at this point they
are still going to be having it at the same place.

I would just like to say that i am sorry if i offened anyone about the dj's,
nothing bad was intended. --


Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

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On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, christian matts wrote:

> is this a joke?

Yeah, it is.  And for a while I thought it would be funny.  But as soon 
as I hit "send", i thought how could I have done such a lame thing?  

So here's my apology to the whole list:

i'm really dorry for the abomination that was the good news coming 
pre-flyer.  There will be no "good news coming" The mind-numbing boredom 
of my data entry job led me to post this, and it wasn't funny like I 
thought. 

sorry again,

chris ege


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I thought it was fukkin hilarious.  We should set up a boom box in a
stairwell and see how long we can go.  I'll even bring the glow sticks.  ;P

earache


At 07:12 PM 6/13/96 -0500, Chris Ege wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, christian matts wrote:
>
>> is this a joke?
>
>Yeah, it is.  And for a while I thought it would be funny.  But as soon 
>as I hit "send", i thought how could I have done such a lame thing?  
>
>So here's my apology to the whole list:
>
>i'm really dorry for the abomination that was the good news coming 
>pre-flyer.  There will be no "good news coming" The mind-numbing boredom 
>of my data entry job led me to post this, and it wasn't funny like I 
>thought. 
>
>sorry again,
>
>chris ege
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Kell said
 The first tape I made to my satisfaction was about
three weeks ago.  It got really dark in the middle of the afternoon and the
wind picked up.  I grabbed a blank tape and went for the tables... 90
minutes later, I had a fairly inspired trance tape and a nearby town had
been pummled by a nastly little tornado.

Well I say this.  I was extremely close to that little town which had been
rocked by the tornado and when I saw Twister I was even more freaked out.
 I've never had to deal with tornadoes before and I am so paranoid when it
comes to things like that.  
Believe me when I say that Kell did not only satisfactorially make a tape
which captured the essence of a thunderstorm from hell.  I've heard that tape
and I think it would be a huge understatement to say that his tape completely
rocked my world. It's none of that "gee I'm tired so I'll put on a trance
tape so I can fall asleep" shit.   He seriously threw down and gave me a
journey of a storm as the tape has done for others.  I If you wanna hear good
trance then listen to his shit. Period.  I don't think trance has anything to
do with who the big name is behind making the tape.  I've been fortunate
enough to been exposed to good trance cuz out in the west coast it seems to
be bigger than here.  But SHYOT......I'll have to eat my own words and say
that there is a definite scene here..full of great music and you guys who
have what it takes should get outta yer closet and show your thang.   
Who knows.  Perhaps I can talk him into doing his thang at CHARM but whatever
the case may be...trance is not a boring set of music which only consists of
layers and what not.  It really does take you on a mental trip and anything
that can achieve such an effect without "chemical enhancement" deserves to
get mad props.  
Okay that's my deux cents.  See you all at CHARM cuz I'm ready to party
regardless of who's there and what music is going to be played!  Take care!
Peace out
Allyson

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concerning this amazing tape of kell's...is there anyone in WI who has a 
copy i can borrow or is ther a way to get ahold of an original?  i've 
heard kell's other stuff...well one tape at least, and i loved it...

dylan
trance. damn it's neat.
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From: Chris Sattinger <satti002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> (Chris Sattinger)
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Kell speaks of trance.

Being a slightly old motherfucker, I was making techno in 1992.   I hated
the word techno because it just made it sound like it was about machines,
and my music isn't about machines any more than brass bands are about
disused plumbing.    I decided to call it Trance.   Not Trance Dance or
Trance techno, just trance.      I had a more tribal sound then what is
currently called trance.    
I noticed that what we once called hardcore (aggresive kicks and female
shouting vocals, synth stabs etc.)   is now similiar to what James
Christian spins :  on the edge of trance and prog. house.
I must admit I don't like most of what is called trance, but the really
killer tracks I do like.     I just can't stand all the synth chords and
wispy drum efx.    that's ok, don't worry about me.  if its good, its good.


>Since I've been trying to define trance (the musical genre) I've ruled out
>the boring argument simply because it really isn't... It is more often the
>dj that is boring than the music.  We've all heard a house track drone on
>for just a little too long... :) 
Most Trance has a lot of sequencing and changes, most Techno or minimal
house is more repetive than that.     Hopefully the dj knows what he/she is
doing.   Or it really is boring.



>Anyway, enough outa me... Basically what I wanted to say was this:  If it's
>boring it's because it's BAD.  
right on.

> I've sulked away from so many
>potentially good tracks that I just couldn't bring myself to buy because
>they did the same thing over and over for 5 minutes... Trance, House,
>Breaks or otherwise...
That's when you get nasty on the turntables.     2 mins. of track, 3 mins.
of mixing.



  Over and Out.

==================================================
Chris Sattinger                                                            
     
                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

discography:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/discography.html
                               ================================================

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OK...I am going to Sonic-puritee...in Indianapolis this upcoming 
Sat...anyone want to net meet????
also...I just got my tongue stretched to 10 gauge.....any comments ....

Posthumously speaking...
!!
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Fri Jun 14 01:31:17 1996
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ok everyone, this is really great about the chicago kids wanting to get
together, totally awesome.

arash will post directions on friday, so everyone will have a good idea of
where they are coming to. 

about the net.meet.  Vaporspace goes on at 3am, so i was thinking we could
all meet at 2am at the smart bar.  i'll have "hello my name is..." name
tags, like usual.  please support the net.meet, i know a lot of times we
just sometimes forget, or don't care enough, but this is meant for all of
us to get together.

we'll decide about breakfast probably sometime in the morning, before the
party ends. 

so hang tight, and we'll get back to you before you can say, "life is so
CHARMing."
-becca


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HAHAHAHA *dies laughing*

I just e-mailed Jeff Gage before reading Becca's post, and told him that I'd
like to have a netmeet at 2am at the smart bar! /5 BECCA!! *grin* Wow.. Funny
how we think alike sometimes, huh grrlie...

 okay, I'll see you all there.. IF you don't know me, I'll be wearing some
overalls, a baby-tee, and I have short dark hair, glasses and my septum
pierced.. I'll also be dancing my bootie off to Vaporspace, more than normal,
because of a promise.. =) Oh yeah, I tend to smile a LOT too.. =)

 *GETTING EXCITED*

see ya's SAt!!

*hugs-n-love*

-Becky =)


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>OK...I am going to Sonic-puritee...in Indianapolis this upcoming
>Sat...anyone want to net meet????
>also...I just got my tongue stretched to 10 gauge.....any comments ....

well it looks like i will be there....p.s. if you know ben in indy, he's
got a 0 in his tongue...yes, a zero.  it's fucking big d00d.  heh.

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
**************************************************************************
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 tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
 silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
 and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
                                              -falling forward
**************************************************************************



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>> -- pOtent perCussion vol.3  fri 14 jun columbus ohio

okay--snuggles and slak will not be attending due to an unfortunate family
situation on mike's part, but DJ CASPAR (julian carow) from boston/chicago
is here to take their place (in case you care)... 

also featured will be a live performance by aaron shinn as GHOST, playing 
the craziest experimental jungle you've ever heard.  photek who?
he's dragging out a lot of equipment to play for nothing, so please come 
out and give aaron some props!

there will also be dj sets by ATMAN and KINGsIZE, and another possible 
surprise guest...

the shindig'll start at about 12 midnight tonight, and will only cost a 
$1 donation which pays for julian's flight home to chicago ;)


directions:

the space is at ben/atman's house which is at the corner of 19th ave and 
summit st near the OSU campus.

from all points take 71 to the 17th ave exit and go west about 2 miles to 
N 4th ST.  take a RIGHT on n 4th, go up to 20th AVE, take a LEFT on 20th 
and go to SUMMIT ST, take another left, and find some parking.  dont park 
behind any apt buildings or anywhere dodgey coz they tow like a beeeatch 
around campus...

once you find the house please enter from the rear (we know you like it).

so that's it.  hope to see you there...
++
e d

coil.com/~eluna/ele_mental.html

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>I'm not from the midwest but from switzerland, europe; but I agree : the music
>is now so minimalist that you can't really get into ...
>There's another problem : elistism, a lot of people think that if the music
>is made by world famous producers, or released on famous labels, then it IS
>good music ... but sometimes it isn't, just boring beats without any energy.
>Everybody is copying detroit minimalism and it sucks.
>
>And sorry to say this but I think that all that electro rebirth movement
>suck really bad : just like if the techno producer didnt wanted to turn on
>jungle, but meanwhile wanted to change their 4/4 beat....
>
>bye
>dj terrorist

Well, for most of this please refer to my previous post about Bad records
and Djs.  (I refered to people dogging trance then... now I can't believe
I'm repeating this Detroit house and Electro) You really can't say a whole
style of music "suck really bad".  Hey, I'll even listen to country if I
like what I hear (not that I do... woops)  And as far as electro rebirth
goes... I think there about as many good electro records being put out now
as there were in 1984-1985 (that is to say, it's just as hard to find good
electro now as it was then)  "and that's all I have to say about that..."


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Lexington, Kentucky                       Alpha-Numeric- kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu
Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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	This event is likely to be from ticketmaster. Tickets
	should be bought at the metro or at the clubhouse.
	There is no service charge from them. 
						:)-~~~

On Thu, 13 Jun 1996 Primover1@aol.com wrote:

> Please post info on tickets for the orbital and space time event.
> 

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okay, pics from EF are up on my page (URL in my sig)

there aren't many, they are pretty dark and not all that exciting, but hey...

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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                                              -falling forward
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alright...i'm sick of seeing this land in my inbox:

>Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>
>******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)

can someone do something?  am i the only one getting this every time i post
something?  i would think not...

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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**************************************************************************



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regarding one-der...

> The sad thing is, I WILL be going to this overpriced, overhyped 
> joke that encore calls a party.  Why? Because I'm stupid.

not to pick on chris or anything
but unfortunately, most of mpls seems to have 
this same type of mindset
we've been putting up with shitty promoters for far too long
allowing them to gain vast amounts of power
through blind and/or apathetic support

if you don't agree with the actions of a particular promoter/company
by all means...don't go to their parties!
basically...
buying a ticket is casting a vote 
the scene (especially here) is VERY political
when you hand over your *ack* $15
what you are saying is 
"hey...i support you guys/gals, keep up the good work"
you may feel differently, but your cash does not convey your ideas
true...
you could talk to the promoters in question
but if you keep buying tickets
and as long as they're making money
they're not going to change
"if it aint broke, don't fix it"

i know of some pretty shitty stuff that has gone on in our scene
and i'm sure others do to
as long as the guilty parties retain their current status
they will continue to corrupt and to destroy
i stopped supporting these unscrupulous (imo) promoters
and the only way to change things is to stop supporting them

you may have to miss a party or two
but if you're really bored
and are having trouble fighting that urge
come to my house
and we'll throw a party for ya (for FREE)

there are some really good promoters struggling to survive here
give them your support
you know who they are
they need you alot more than you need them ;}

> 
> But I can't wait for Bubbilicious this weekend!

i'm selling tickets on sat
feel free to tell me what you think ;}


            *hugs*

      <<^GUiDO^^>>>>>
  wate0044@maroon.tc.umn.edu...........8}

ps...
i think that i'll be going to see BG
it's free and should be interesting
and i think chris' idea would be pretty funny ;}

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>>OK...I am going to Sonic-puritee...in Indianapolis this upcoming
>>Sat...anyone want to net meet????
>>also...I just got my tongue stretched to 10 gauge.....any comments ....
>
>well it looks like i will be there....p.s. if you know ben in indy, he's
>got a 0 in his tongue...yes, a zero.  it's fucking big d00d.  heh.
>
>love, luck, and lollipops,
>michael
>allroy


<runs up...jumps in the air...attacks michael>  You're going?!!!  /5 michael!

Uh...   Uh...   AANNYYWWAAYY...yes...I'll be there too.  I've never
actually met any other net kids at a net meet...I just happen to run into
them.  <grins at nancy>  But, I guess we can set up a meet at 2am at the
drinks/smart bar.  Look for me too...I'll be wearing white and pink (you
won't be able to miss me).  Oh yeah...and if she doesn't post anything
herself...Nancy and her Milwaukee kru are coming down for Sonic Purity too.
Yikes, I'm getting too excited!  Well, see y'all tomorrow.


Lagged beyond belief,


-=(  Dave Justice   )=-
-=(ravekid@cris.com )=-
-=(indydave on vrave)=-

http://www.cris.com/~ravekid/index.html



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On 13 Jun 96 at 15:19, Kell Pollard wrote:

> The unfortunate thing about trance is that if you make a boring house track
> you can always speed it up and call it trance ;)

hrmm... 	i caught a few refrences to trance in this post that indicated
that you had thought of trance (the musical genre) as being faster than
house, as a rule.  i do not know very much about what i'm talking about
but i've never really understood trance = faster than house.  Personally
i call trance whatever trances me and for the last ten months or so
that's been a lot slower than the stuff i've heard called "trance" or the
stuff that i've heard "trance" deejays playing at parties like
Technosaraus2 and BassrushMidwestRush  (which i realize were intended to
be harder-edged parties to begin with, but those are the two that come to
mind that will be most recognized on this list).  to furthur confuse me,
just before getting tables i got and listened to Logic Record's/URB
magazine's _Trance Logic 2_ album and that....well it's 'flowy' and
melodic, and the artists all appear to be using high quality equipment, 
but it's nothing like what i'd been brought up to believe is Trance.

lately i've been most tranced by a Basic Channel type track on a proper
(large) sound system.  plant your body and mind (psychadelic or not) in
front of an earth moving system bursting with bass and close your eyes. 
after about four beats you realize that it's not JUST a drum, but there's
a little noise that follows each drumbeat --wierd!  so your mind
"follows" that sound and your body is relenquished to the beat.  that 
little sound may grow into a totally new thing or chase off into the far 
reaches of your mind.  either way it's going somewhere (unlike this post).

so is it me?  am i confused on what is trance?  are there perhaps multiple 
types?  terry mullan called frenche's style of music "white bread trance" 
here once.   if so, what is trance logic two, and what is basic channel's 
quadrant dub, what is maruzio, and what is Robert Miles - children?  and 
what do you say for Ritchie Hawtin's concept stuff and will i ever hear 
that at a party on a "proppa" sound system?  maybe this is not the place 
or list for it, but these are specifiker questions but not  "well, if it's 
above 147.863 bpm it's trance, and if it has 32nd notes it's called goa 
trance, and if it's under 107.432 bpm and has a diminished second beat 
it's called hip hop and....."  bullshit.

what was i saying?

> As far as dancing... (hee hee)  well, no you probably won't have too many
> opportunities to do those nifty little hip-hop moves but I'll be damned if
> you CAN'T dance to trance.  If you can't dance to something... you're not
> listening to it.  "and that's all I have to say about that."

*stared down the throat of the bassasaraus rex and ]]]]trances[[[[*


--star*
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I would like to take this time to say :

BECCA, YOU ARE SUCH A MOM. (and i miss your raver threads)
BECKY, if you sleep during my set, I'll make sure you never wake up.

---ben / Cylert  (slightly sarcastic and wasting bandwidth)

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What a great little shin-dig that was.  I had so much fun, and that
straight-up Madtown vibe was in full effect.  Mindrive and Peterbuilt
rockkked.  man, I love that town!  It was held in The "Neighborhood
community center"  what a great fuckkin concept!  A community center.  Yeah,
send the tykes to pre-school there in the morn, da kidz to day camp during
the day, and oh yeah, have a rave there at night.  This is a model
community, eh? Props to Madison and its ravas for being fly<-----HION


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> BECCA, YOU ARE SUCH A MOM. (and i miss your raver threads)
> BECKY, if you sleep during my set, I'll make sure you never wake up.
> ---ben / Cylert  (slightly sarcastic and wasting bandwidth)

I hear the laughter already.  The thought of the laughter disturbs me
w/o even being in its presence. Its disturbing and yet alluring...

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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> >Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> >
> >******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
> 

Yeah, I'm getting that ALL THE TIME as well.  As you all know, I post a 
lot, and every time it goes to that fool's mailbox, I get that response 
back.  Grr...  I got like 10 of them just now.  Next time it happens, 
I'll complain the the sysadmin on that system, s/he'll be able to take 
care of it.

chris


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Okay, I'm still going to try to do the little party in the metrodome 
during the billy graham gathering.  The only thing i'm worried about is 
how crowded it's gonna be.  If anyone wants to join me or help out or 
something, it'll be cool.  The reason I apologized is that I think I 
confused a bunch of people.  SO... let me know if you wanna be in on the 
biggest party of the century!  I wonder if it would be possible to sneak 
a PA and turntables in there....

chris


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brotha, you are not alone.  :(

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl

On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:

> alright...i'm sick of seeing this land in my inbox:
> 
> >Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> >
> >******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
> 
> can someone do something?  am i the only one getting this every time i post
> something?  i would think not...
> 
> love, luck, and lollipops,
> michael
> allroy
> 
> http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
> **************************************************************************
> "curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
>  tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
>  silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
>  and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
>                                               -falling forward
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> 
> 

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well folks  i finally decided to reupload my homepage but to a little
different addy

it is  http://www.msoe.edu/~davisd

it is a borrowed account but yah know


student formally known as mikeyd
discordia 
soon  http://www.msoe.edu/~davisd


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is anyone from the milwaukee area goin to bubblicious in minneapolis on
sat?   if so  do you think i could possibly catch a ride?
the usual comes with this (gas money, conversation, etc.)


student formally known as mikeyd
discordia 
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Alls I gotta say is, WOW!, Milk & Cheese was one of the best raves I've
ever been to!!  Madison *always* comes through for me!

Anyone know that feeling where ya leave a party glowing from all the
energy?  Where, had your legs not given up on you around 4 AM, you could've
danced for another 4 hours?  That about sums it up for this party.  I won't
go into too many details, but once the music finally picked up (it took a
while, past midnight), my night took off into space.  The floor was wet
from raverslime and condensation, making it hard to dance, but it dried up
later on once it cleared out a bit, just in time for Mindrive's set... I
went nutz!  Mindrive totally rocked my night, as he always does, this time
with one of the most musically diverse sets I've ever heard.  (Lotsa
different styles mixed up.)

Mad cheers and hoorays for everybody involved in this party... such a good
vibe, good space, excellent music, AWESOME PEOPLE... and my favorite,
people danced with me on the dancefloor.  I really love it when, instead of
everybody zoning-out in their own world on the dancefloor, people dance
together and share energy, it makes things more intense.

Yeah, it'll take me about a week to wipe the smile off my face from this
party.  :)

       Peace & Groove,

            Randy
             a d
              n
             a d
            Randy

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>OK...I am going to Sonic-puritee...in Indianapolis this upcoming
>Sat...anyone want to net meet????

>But, I guess we can set up a meet at 2am at the
>drinks/smart bar.

<raising hand>  Yeah, I will hopefully be at Sonic Purity.  My first
Indypolis party.  Kind of a long haul from where I am in NW IL, but what
the hell, I wanna hear Dante and RITM.  I'll try to make it to the
net.meet, but I left my sense of linear time back in 1995, so I never know
what time it is anymore.  :)  I always end up missing the net.meets... hm,
I'll try...

Anyways, as usual, I'll be the dude with the really long hair, glasses, and
a blue headband with a rainbow.  Possibly a blue Droopy t-shirt (hopefully
the shirt isn't as popular in Indy as it is in Madison), or maybe one with
Curious George lying passed out next to a bottle of ether.  :D  Come say
hello, I'll probably be clueless and lost (as usual) and possibly in a
state of consciousness beyond the point of intelligent conversation, but
I'll still be able to smile and hug and be friendly and send out good
vibes, shtuff like that, hehe.  :)

 Peace and uh, Purity,

        Randy
         a d
          n   <--- Venusian Rabbit (as opposed to in the moon)
         a d
        Randy

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yes....it is annoying isn't it???

On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:

> alright...i'm sick of seeing this land in my inbox:
> 
> >Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> >
> >******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
> 
> can someone do something?  am i the only one getting this every time i post
> something?  i would think not...
> 
> love, luck, and lollipops,
> michael
> allroy
> 
> http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
> **************************************************************************
> "curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
>  tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
>  silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
>  and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
>                                               -falling forward
> **************************************************************************
> 
> 
> 



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AS well...I just got a bar across the top portion of my cartilage....
so more like 4 piercings (both ears)...as well I got my conch pierced
with the 12 gauge that was in my tongue last night.....(rem....I got
a 10 gauge in last night....)




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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Fri Jun 14 16:47:39 1996
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Here are the directions to

:::CHARM:::
10pm-sunrise
Dayton, Ohio
513.496.1071
Illuminator Mission X

The space is an old foundry in a warehouse complex north of downtown. 
This is the same complex where the Illuminators hosted Unknown Frequencies
featuring Carl Craig last year, and where The Hindenburg Co held Limited
Risk Venture.  However, this time a different building is being used.
There will be 2 rooms of sound.

Get to I-75.

from the North:
   Take I-75 south to exit 55: Keowee St.
   At the end of the ramp turn left onto Keowee St.
   Go through one light.  Turn left onto Chapel St, which is the
   first street after the light.  Turn left onto Keiser, and then
   right onto Ray, and then turn right into the fenced-in area.
   You will be instructed on where to park.

from the South:
   Take I-75 north to exit 55A: Keowee St.  
   At the end of the ramp turn right onto Keowee St.
   Go through one light.  Turn left onto Chapel St, which is the
   first street after the light.  Turn left onto Keiser, and then
   right onto Ray, and then turn right into the fenced-in area.

Admission is $5 at the door.  See you there!

Mike & Arash

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i think it's funny, but when everyone posts about the NDN message,
are they getting another one from that?

laughing at the irony, (and waiting for my NDN!)
peace,
mindkiss

ps. i kinda like 'em, so i'm gonna post this twice! ;) j/k


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Okay, I'm super-duper stoked for this party.  More than I've ever been 
(well, maybe I was more stoked for reactor) But anyways, I'm not gonna 
propose a net.meet because I've got this feeling that I just won't be 
motivated to pull myself away from the dance floor.  But here's a pretty 
good description of me, so if you see me, stop me and say hi.

I'm a fairly tall (6 feet) skinny white guy. I've got pretty short dirty 
blond hair.  But I might do something with it for tomorrow, like change 
the color... I'll be wearing really big black shorts.  I've got a chain 
wallet with heavy links, on my left leg (i'm left-handed) I'll be wearing 
a blue thump t-shirt that says "raised in the great north woods" on the 
front with some stylized images of trees.  I might be wearing a dark red 
hooded sweatshirt, depending on the temperature (probably not!) Umm... I 
carry my stuff in a brightred backpack.  I'll be setting my stuff 
someplace with my friends and we'll have candles.  Oh yeah, I have a stud 
through my lower lip (labret, if you want the precise anatomy) And if I 
decide that I wanna go for the "cool" look, I might wear my green 
sunglasses.  And if I buy glowsticks, you'll know me by the way I keep 
dropping 'em ;)

Okay, that's a good enough description, I suppose.  Now that I've taken 
some time to really describe myself, I hope people that have wanted to 
meet me for a while will be able to. (suzanne, rochell, this means you!)

I'm super-duper excited for this one! Did I already say that? :)

BTW, anyone heard that re-mix of some metallica song?  It has these 
really funky breakbeats over it, and it sounds almost like happyhardcore 
with metal guitars and old guys trying to be metal musicians.  But for 
metallica, it's almost listenable.

Chris e.

(Oooh baby! Hit me wit' dat NDN speedphreak!)

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i wasn't expecting it at all but i have to agree this was a great little
party. i went more with the impression that it would be more of chill
atmosphere, but then i ended up dancing my ass off. the main reason i wanted
to post this though to mention that i me the starchildren, the promoters of
this party, and they seemed very cool, in it for the right reasons, and
concerned as to whether people were actually having a good time. they're
throwing a larger scale party here on august 3rd called respect so give 'em
support.

-kc


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The champaign sound is back...

Those that have been know what to expect...

Those that haven't should come and join us...

(Unfontunately, at this time i don't have the exact address but i will 
post it before sat.)

later,
acetate


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>if you don't agree with the actions of a particular promoter/company
>by all means...don't go to their parties!
>basically...
>buying a ticket is casting a vote 

Yes, I talk with these promoter peoples all the time and they examine each
party and try and figure out why so many people showed up for this or for
that.      Each party is very scary, could lose money.    If you don't show
because you know its wack, they will try harder next time to do it right.  
If you just come anyway, they will just keep doing it the way they do it.

And please don't wimp out and leave before my 6 am set  at bubblicious !!!
;)

  Over and Out.

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>if you don't agree with the actions of a particular promoter/company
>by all means...don't go to their parties!
>basically...
>buying a ticket is casting a vote 

and another thing... the BIG question every promoter asks themselves is : 
Why did over a thousand people go to 420 sessions ?    (mpls.)     No-one,
including Mike Stacy has figured this out.

  Over and Out.

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sat Jun 15 12:38:19 1996
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>>if you don't agree with the actions of a particular promoter/company
>>by all means...don't go to their parties!
>>basically...
>>buying a ticket is casting a vote 
>
>and another thing... the BIG question every promoter asks themselves is : 
>Why did over a thousand people go to 420 sessions ?    (mpls.)     No-one,
>including Mike Stacy has figured this out.

Because everyone wants to party on 4/20.  And when there is a party named
420 ... there ya goez.

earache

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So I went to my first StL party last night...

good
----
+the crowd was not 50% dealers
+I saw some really phat dancing
+$12! Right on!
+no searching, not even of my backpack!
+cool space, two rooms plus chillout room and they let people chill
	outside.

bad
---
-I don't know who the hell those DJs were (no lineup posted- bad!), but
however many people spun in the main room (couldn't see, too much smoke-
bad!), but although they played good tracks and I was trying to not be a
picky DJ, they/he wrecked almost every mix. And one of his records musta
had a HUGE scratch in it... and they/he didn't seem to understand the
concept of levels and EQs. You'd be dancing and all of a sudden the whole
high end would disappear... then he would slap some slider and we'd all
get hit in the face my noise that was WAY too loud. And what was with
hauling that huge studio billion-track mixer in there? They certainly
weren't using it... showing off? And although I'll give them props for
trying, it was HOT in there. Like I said they tried though. There were big
fans and stuff. And there was free water available. I also didn't meet a
SINGLE netraver! That kinda sucked. If you were there, ya shoulda said hi!
Oh well. I met a guy that I hadn't seen since Bassrush and it turns out
he lives here now, and I met another guy who looked farmiliar and it
turned out I'd seen him on campus at school! Cool! Another raver
emerges... And although I could tell it made some people uneasy I didn't
mind the cops being there. I talked to one and he was friendly, he even
let me give him a sticker! Pretty cool.

Well it's really easy to bitch about a party but don't get me wrong. I had
a good time, there were just a couple technical points that made the
evening less than enjoyable.

AND...

my whole experience took a downturn when we headed back to Champaign and
my car died in the middle of NOwhere... after like 1.5 hours of speaking
nicely to it it started again... and then died 30 miles from home! We
coaxed, we reasoned, we pleaded, but it would not start. I ended up having
it towed ($75- ouch!) and apparently it needs some new little part which
failed spontaneously and it's so hard to get to that they have to take my
whole car apart or something SO IT WON'T BE READY TILL MONDAY AND I CAN'T
GO TO CHARM! This upsets me greatly. So if you're remotely in the area of
Champaign, IL (2 hrs south of Chicago) come pick me up and I'll thank you
forever and pay for gas and stuff. I really want to go to this party! I
called all the ravers in town, even the ones I don't like (I'm sorry,
they're snobs.), but nobody I know is going! Damn and I was so looking
forward to meeting alla-ya netravers and the *other* Gage in the scene
(watch my ego inflate! ;). Oh well. If you can help me out give me a call
at the number below. I'm going back there now so I won't be able to see
any email till tomorrow. Please please please!

:) Seeya. Even if I miss Charm I still got to go to a pretty decent party
for $12 and see StL for the first time!

seeya around the datasphere-
-Gage

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k, this is the first time i posted on this newsgroup, hope you guys dont
think im lame cuz im on aol.

anywayz...  i just wanted to review noize for ya.  held in buffalo, IA, at
camp abe lincoln, in a lodge.  two rooms of sound.  perfect weather outside,
no cops, great people(xcept heidi, that preppy bitch) and awesome djs.  devil
girl and chris sattinger were there.  acetate was there.  local dj, josh
barnes, hes really good.    all the djs kicked ass.  i was so gone...  ive
never danced better and now i dance awesome all the time.  i still got the
beats in my head.  

a coupla bad things did happen, i had two hits and one i accidentally
swallowed, not too bad but i puked bout 3 am.  then a guy taking money at the
door ran off with 1500 in cash!!!  the cops came later and talked to the guy
holding the rave.  they caught the guy but couldnt do anything, no proof.  

but other than that, i had the best time of my life.  it was so awesome.  the
acid was great.  the djs were great.  going outside and walking around and
chilling was fun.  

you guys all have fun at bubbliscous or where ever youre going.  

derik

========================================
"real ravers go for the scene, not to be seen" -me 
======================================== 

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i was looikng thru my efliers and found this. so i hope this helpsout the
ppl that want to see the orb.

>From: dps927@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
>Subject: MEGALITH 6.22.96 chicago
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>yes this is it. you've heard that before but now we really mean it. this is
>THE party. everyone productions presents:
>
>M E G A L I T H
>
>to be held in chicago's mammoth McCormick Place!
>
>FEATURING:
>
>battles of a lifetime!
>
>the masters of idm!
>richard james vs richie hawtin
>
>purveyors of innovative techno bliss!
>dave angel vs dave clarke
>
>chills and thrills as the battle for the right to keep their names
>continues... a reunion of last year's triple live p.a.!!
>the orb vs orbital vs william orbit
>
>perpetrators of the acid build-up face off in a dual live p.a.!
>josh wink vs hardfloor
>
>jazzstep and drum and bass gurus collide!
>alex reece vs ltj bukem
>
>happy hardcore until you drop!
>dougal vs slipmatt
>
>more noise than you can handle!
>drop bass network vs industrial strength an all-out assault from the hardest
>crews in the business
>
>breaks from the best in the business... east vs west!
>dj icey vs. the hardkiss brothers
>
>shakin' it down with chicago vs detroit! incredible tagteams! terry mullan and
>paul johnson vs. claude young and jeff mills
>
>early-morning ambient sounds to relax you...
>banco de gaia vs peter namlook
>
>everyone productions is a collaboration between all willing chicago promoting
>crews and others around the midwest... we are about unity and we want to give
>the midwest the largest scale party with the best selection of artists from
>both the u.s. and abroad to demonstrate to the rest of the country just what
>the midwest is all about...
>
>more info to come... this is a pre-flyer... we _will_ deliver...
>



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myself and fellow madtown kids ailey/jennifer, dove/robyn, and breezy are
soon to be headed on our way up to mpls for this party. i think there are
still a few of you mpls people that i haven't met and would like to, so at 4
am i will hang around just inside the main entrance for a while in case any
of you wanna meet up with us. i'll be in a dark green t-shirt with a black
hawk on it, blue grinds, black backpack, and brown hair probably in a pony
tail. free suckers for anyone that wants one. :)

-kc


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Well, me, Arash, and Katerina just cleaned up the warehouse.  It
is an incredible industrial 2 room sight guaranteed to blow your mind!!!
I wont give away the special secret of the space until you guys actually
see it!  It's the best fucking space I've ever seen for a "rave"...
fucking oldschool.

---ben / Cylert

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On Sat, 15 Jun 1996 page@simon.wustl.edu wrote:

> Well, me, Arash, and Katerina just cleaned up the warehouse.  It
> is an incredible industrial 2 room sight guaranteed to blow your mind!!!
> I wont give away the special secret of the space until you guys actually
> see it!  It's the best fucking space I've ever seen for a "rave"...
> fucking oldschool.

Oh yes, yes,yes! Ohhh ummm, this will be cool. :)

I'm here in dayton, now all I need is a nap. Yes, you too will someday be
as old as me muhahahahaha.

Ed/Cuisinart/Geriatric Raver


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> and another thing... the BIG question every promoter asks themselves is : 
> Why did over a thousand people go to 420 sessions ?    (mpls.)     No-one,
> including Mike Stacy has figured this out.

No shit! That was the most crowded party i've ever been to! And it was 
also the worst party i've ever been to.  The flyer was very nice though, 
that might've had something to do with it. But still...

Anyways, I'll try to convince my friends that we have to stay until your 
set...

chris


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i was at a house party in milwaukee last night and saw a girl from 
mnpls...she was trying to conviunce me to go to generations tonight but i 
have to work early...so...:( but anyway i said "yeah i went to school 
there last year" and we started talking, and it was amazing, it made me 
realize the dichotomy going on in mnpls.basically she's friends with mike 
stacy of uniti, and before i found this out i had already blurted out 
"uniti sucks" or something to that effect.  heh. she got all pissy at me 
and i treid to explain why, nothing doing.  i told her what parties i had 
gone to (mostly non uniti/nug/mnpls house pres./etc parties) and she told 
me i had gone to all the wrong parties...and having spoken to some 
friends i hadn't seen for a long time, they told me they had gone to 
summer daze and were disgusted by the lack of vibe and all the drinking 
in the parking lot, elitism, etc etc ETC.  see, i see the people like 
estatic and u-80 and whatnot trying to get a foot hold and the 
established promoters seem to try as hard as possible to make it as hard 
as possible. (how many fake tickets has mike stacy and his buddies 
printed up over this year alone?) so it's not like mnpls isn't trying, 
but honestly there is a large part of the mnpls community that is totally 
satisfied with tthe bullshit that happens. quotes like (and this is NOT a 
dis to house, but too many dj's in mnpls spin the same tired house tracks 
over and over again and it's just sad.) "mnpls is a house city: it should 
STAY that way" and "oh look! it's UNITI!!! they came to MY party!!!" and 
it's hard to please these people.  i don't exactly remeber where i was 
going with this post now, it think it had somethig to do with the idea 
that mnpls people should change things if they are unhappy, and there are 
people who are trying, and unfortunately the ruling regime of promoters 
is doing all it can to kill their attempts. 

dylan

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well, it's that time again....i've been holed up and quiet for soooo long 
that i can't take it anymore so i'm going to have another pregathering in 
my basement.  this time i'm clearing the furniture to the walls and 
renting a biggggg(er) sound system.  i'm also getting another couple 
tables for the garage.  we'll set up speakers on the back deck too for 
loungin' (but we'll haveta keep it kinda quiet for the neghibors).

the party will run from six to eleven p.m., we will be an official ticket 
outlet for the party and i'm working on getting some kind of bus or 
something from the basement to McCormic place and back again in the 
morning.  those wishing to crash here should email me in advance.

no weapons, no bottles, yada yada yada.

see you there, and get eXciTED about this party, it'll be the night of 
your lifE!

On 15 Jun 96 at 17:41, christian matts wrote:

> i was looikng thru my efliers and found this. so i hope this helpsout the
> ppl that want to see the orb.
> 
> >From: dps927@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
> >Subject: MEGALITH 6.22.96 chicago
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.com
> >Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:33:01 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24]
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> >
> >
> >yes this is it. you've heard that before but now we really mean it. this is
> >THE party. everyone productions presents:
> >
> >M E G A L I T H
> >
> >to be held in chicago's mammoth McCormick Place!
> >
> >FEATURING:
> >
> >battles of a lifetime!
> >
> >the masters of idm!
> >richard james vs richie hawtin
> >
> >purveyors of innovative techno bliss!
> >dave angel vs dave clarke
> >
> >chills and thrills as the battle for the right to keep their names
> >continues... a reunion of last year's triple live p.a.!!
> >the orb vs orbital vs william orbit
> >
> >perpetrators of the acid build-up face off in a dual live p.a.!
> >josh wink vs hardfloor
> >
> >jazzstep and drum and bass gurus collide!
> >alex reece vs ltj bukem
> >
> >happy hardcore until you drop!
> >dougal vs slipmatt
> >
> >more noise than you can handle!
> >drop bass network vs industrial strength an all-out assault from the hardest
> >crews in the business
> >
> >breaks from the best in the business... east vs west!
> >dj icey vs. the hardkiss brothers
> >
> >shakin' it down with chicago vs detroit! incredible tagteams! terry mullan and
> >paul johnson vs. claude young and jeff mills
> >
> >early-morning ambient sounds to relax you...
> >banco de gaia vs peter namlook
> >
> >everyone productions is a collaboration between all willing chicago promoting
> >crews and others around the midwest... we are about unity and we want to give
> >the midwest the largest scale party with the best selection of artists from
> >both the u.s. and abroad to demonstrate to the rest of the country just what
> >the midwest is all about...
> >
> >more info to come... this is a pre-flyer... we _will_ deliver...
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Well, I hate to burst anyone's bubble - but here's the word from a friend
of mine that works with Richie.  Can anyone else add an info?  I'd hate to
see everyone get there and then get the standard "<insert missing DJ/PA>
couldn't get into the country due to customs."

Peace...
	tom

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 00:32:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tosh
To: Tom Robbs <trobbs@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: 6/22/96 orb info (fwd)

> I hope you still read your mail... can you possibly get me info on this
> from Richie?  I really don't want to miss him or any of the other people
> on this bill...

--> Heh, seems almost too good to be true huh?

> 
> >the masters of idm!
> >richard james vs richie hawtin
> >

--> Richie is on a road trip from June 13 to July 2.  He will be in 
Spain, the UK, Australia, Hong Kong, and finally six straight days in 
Japan, so I'm not too sure if he'll be able to make it.  Also he is still 
not allowed into the United States.

> >purveyors of innovative techno bliss!
> >dave angel vs dave clarke
> >

--> Quite possible.

> >chills and thrills as the battle for the right to keep their names
> >continues... a reunion of last year's triple live p.a.!!
> >the orb vs orbital vs william orbit
> >

--> Orbital is on the West coast part of their North American tour on the 
above date.

> >perpetrators of the acid build-up face off in a dual live p.a.!
> >josh wink vs hardfloor
> >

--> Possible again.

> >jazzstep and drum and bass gurus collide!
> >alex reece vs ltj bukem
> >

--> That would be fun!

> >happy hardcore until you drop!
> >dougal vs slipmatt
> >

--> Hopefully their plane will crash midway through the trans-atlantic 
flight.

> >more noise than you can handle!
> >drop bass network vs industrial strength an all-out assault from the hardest
> >crews in the business
> >

--> Bitchin'

> >breaks from the best in the business... east vs west!
> >dj icey vs. the hardkiss brothers
> >

--> Who?

> >shakin' it down with chicago vs detroit! incredible tagteams! terry mullan and
> >paul johnson vs. claude young and jeff mills
> >

--> Now this would be an event, tho' Detroit would WUP ass since no'one 
in the world is as good as Mills, too bad he hasn't played this continent 
in ages and probably won't for some time.  Hey you should go and check 
the new Claude Young CD from Studio K7!, its amazing!

> >early-morning ambient sounds to relax you...
> >banco de gaia vs peter namlook
> >

--> Its no coincidence that banco sounds like wanco which sounds like 
wanker, since that about describe the pablum from mr. de gaia.  Namlook 
has just released another fine work, a really amazing new release, too 
bad I can't remember the name, but he won't be here anytime soon, and if 
he is he'll be in Windsor before anywhere else.

> >more info to come... this is a pre-flyer... we _will_ deliver...
> >
Newp, they won't deliver, whoever _they_ are.
The new Plastikman CD is the bomb, especially if you were at the Live 
show back in September.

Sorry 'bout the bad news,
Tosh


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>> >breaks from the best in the business... east vs west!
>> >dj icey vs. the hardkiss brothers
>> >
>
>--> Who?

fyi.dj icey is some big name club dj ->from miami(?), or somewhere<-
i have a roomate who thinks hes the shit, but i dont know about all that.



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mmm opps.(puts foot in mouth, or keayboard wich ever you see appropriate.)
i didtn read the whole preflyer, and didnt notice that there was no infor
line to call, and"everybody produtions"??? yeah right at the mccormick
center, yeah right. i forget that this flyer mightbe(most likely) full of
crap. so i appligise for inappropapriatly teasing ppl, i didtn read that
flyer like i said. i just saw the orb and thought i'd post it.

big opps for me
simple


>On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, christian matts wrote:
>
>> i was looikng thru my efliers and found this. so i hope this helpsout the
>> ppl that want to see the orb.
>
>Um... <wiping the drool from the floor with a *mop*>
>
>Could this possibly be any more *WICKED*!  Any idea of a date for this?
>ANYONE!?  I mean Orbital are coming through from the East near the
>beginning of July... and the Orb ARE coming from the west sometime next
>month too...
>
>GIMME DETAILS MAN!
>
>Peace, hugs, and transient dreams...
>
>        Tom



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YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!

i'm rather upset that you ppl all have such a lack of faith in the chicago 
scene.  i KNOW THE PROMOTERS and i can ASSure you this party WILL GO OFF!  
i can also promise you that this party will be an ASS KICKIN' good time 
for everyone willing to make the journey.  DON'T believe the hype put out 
by bunk promoters and individuals who don't know what the hell they're 
talking about, PLAN TO BE HERE!

all of the dj's and live acts plane tickets went out last week and the 
sound deposit has been paid for a month.  McCormic place is ours from 2pm 
until 4pm the dates of the show. CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T bELIEVE ME 
312-303-7283!

ticket outlets are strictly by word of mouth and special invitation to 
keep this party underground and keep the vibe for real.  noone will be let 
into the party without a ticket!

and remember, the [Top Secret] preparty will be an official ticket outlet, 
so plan on a phat preparty too!

see you all there, and keep it REAL....

--star*
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star@interaccess.com http://homepage.interaccess.com/~star
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                                               [Top Secret]
MA4--
____Manoeuvres accompanied by a sense of reality transformation
____for the observer. 
(from) http://www.bahnhof.se/~mike/ufo/vallee.html

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                                               [Top Secret]
MA4--
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____for the observer. 
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***FREEDOM OF TRANSMISSION***

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I have to speak up about all this shit about promoters and how Uniti is not 
respected.  I moved here 2 months ago, left a message on the Uniti answering 
machine before 420 and Mike Stacy called me back and put me on the guest 
list!!!  If that's not raver hospitality I don't know what is!!!  I don't 
really know what has happened in the past, but I've NEVER heard shit like this 
back in DC.  All the kids there are glad to have parties to go to!!!  Sure, 
time has weeded out the really really good promoters, but there are still 
people throwing parties everywhere and if someone has a bad time, I think it's 
their own damn fault.  It's not like DJ's are banging down doors to come to 
Minneapolis for crying out loud!!!  Be thankful there are people willing to 
take a chance to throw an event and so what if they are looking to make $$$.  
Raves are big money.  Big money.  If you were a promoter wouldn't you want to 
make$$ at having a good time??:)

All this talk about ticket prices being too high puzzles me too.  Where else 
can you go for 10 to 12 hours and only spend $15??  

I hate to see all this anamosity in an enviromnent that is supposed to be 
harmonious.  If you have strong feelings or a bad past w/a certain 
promoter--just stay home.  Better yet, plan your own party!!

Can't we all just get along..... 

 

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Okay, the subject line alone probably angered several minneapolis people, 
but let me tell my story before you get mad at me...

Forst of all, let me just say that I'm all for the VOLUNTARY use of 
drugs.  It's a thing I choose not to do myself, but if someone CHOOSES to 
do, say, acid, that's their choice.  But it's a totally different thing 
to give someone the drug without their knowing.  But let me tell the 
story in chronological order.

I picked up my friends, stoked for the best party I've ever been to.  And 
for a while, it was. THe space was AMAZING!!! Incredibly hot, like a 
furnace but worse. But still the coolest space I've ever seen.  Clinton 
and the basscorps crew did a great job with lights. Props to y'all!  And 
ecstatic themselves put SO MUCH attention to detail into this party that 
I couldn't imagine it.  THe Sound was perfect.  Everything was perfect, 
making it the best party of my life. about a 200 out of ten, at least. 

Then, A pretty girl gave me some licorice.  I was smiling, happy at the 
incredible vibe.  So I ate the licorice.  About half an hour later, I 
felt a little dizzy.  About an hour later, I told my friends that I 
thought I had eaten something I shouldn't have.  An hour after that, I 
was cowering in the corner of the top floor because I thought the music 
was the loudest sound in the world, and the floor was moving.  That's 
right, someone slipped me some acid.  Not really strong acid, I gather.  
I've never tripped before tonight, but from what my experienced friends 
told me, it was weak stuff. SO, Dustin comes up to me and he's like " are 
you okay chris?" and I was like "i dont know" It seemed like that's the 
only phrase that I knew.  So he said "what are you on?" and i said "i 
didn't take anything" And he gave me some water.  He seemed really 
concerned, and ran off saying he'd be back right away.  Dustin, I hope 
you read this: I got home safely and without even getting in trouble.  
Because right after he left, my friends found me on the edge of tears as 
gabbergirl's set started.  They got me out of there really quick.  And I 
gather that I said some really strange things on the way home.  By the 
way, I had driven that night.  So of course I gave my keys up and let my 
best friend in the world drive.  We went to my one friend's house, and 
she lives far away from the rest of us.  The plan was that I would try to 
get some sleep there. But then I decided to go with as she drove the rest 
of the group to their houses.  Then my car breaks down! ANd to make 
things worse, it breaks down less than half a mile from my house! And i 
was still tripping hard.  So I was worried because i was going to have to 
face my dad when I was tripping.  But things worked out fine and I'm home 
safe now. Now I need some sleep!

But I think of this as the most disturbing thing I've ever experienced.  
A bad trip isn't something you want, especially when you don't know 
you've taken the acid.  Hopefully I won't turn into a paranoid wreck and 
fear parties.  But it's really diminished the level of trust on my part. 

Scared shitless until 20 minutes ago, 

chris ege


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hay I just stopped in @ home to rest for a half hour before going back (I
get to stay till 8 and cleeeen up - wheee).

Anyways, this party fucking slams!!!!!!!

Awesome space, despite the heat, an awesome vibe and awesome music.

Joey Beltram doesn't have a strong handshake, tho, but he's hella nice guy.
Don't ask me why that sticks out, I'm big on the handshake thing for some
reason - ya need a firm grasp, that's essential to a good handshake.

Anyways, this party fucking rools.  That's two in a row for those goofy gals
in ecstatic muzik.  

Now if I can just stay awake till 8 and find the energy to move bins I'll be
good to go.  :P

Night night.

earache

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 16 07:59:34 1996
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first of all:  mark gage's live set was very moving.  after 2 earlier
attempts by the illuminators to get him to play live in dayton ended with
chaos on the one hand and eqiuipment failure on the other, the third time
did indeed prove to be the "charm."  very sensual melodies overlaid by 
very weird rhythms...dancey but somehow more mental and emotional in a 
way.  the kick was a little thin, leaving less to grab on to (my only 
complaint) but the strange arrangements really drew you into the music.  
it's like a european trance sensibility translated through the filters of 
detroit's experimental music...wouldnt mind getting ahold of any of his 
new material.  ok, one more minor complaint: he played his big HIT, 
"gravitational arch" which i'm still sick of...but everything else seemed 
totally new as far as i know.  yummy!

dj sets i can comment on:

allison - excellent house, tight mixing, good energy...uh, why arent more 
grrls doing this?

monochrome - after some false starts he finally got a spot in the second 
room and did a sloppy set of good jungle tunes (blame that system, 
partially ;), then proceeded to play a ripping set of _techno_ 
stuff...hardtraxx stuff, and really got the crowd moving.  by the end of 
charles' set he had almost as many people in the small room as there were 
in the main room.  yay!

that's pretty much the only djs i really can do justice to, sorry i spent 
most of my evening socializing and folding flyers.

last point:  i hear a lot of talk about the illuminators.  many people
feel that they are assholes or something, and that they dont want other
people to promote in dayton...etc, things like that.  far be it for me to
speak for them on this issue; i think they speak pretty clearly with their
events.  in case it isnt clear to you, then i will present my own
interpretation.  this was a $5 event.  over 1/2 the budget was LOST. 
money was lost, not _tons_, but it's all gone now.  the illuminators,
whether it be arash spearheading the event, or kourosh, or _whomever_, are
willing to put their own money on the line to throw an event they believe
in. 

i feel strongly about this, and that's part of the reason i support their
events and why i'm writing this now.  if anyone thinks they are rich
foreigners who dont really care about the scene, or that they are too
hardcore about their "anit-drug" stance or whatever, you're entitled to
your interpretation.  but _my_ interpretation, based solely on the quality
of their events, is that more often than not, they do it because they are
making a statement in support of a lot of good things:  good music from
locally or abroad, a relatively cheap price, a real sense of 
togetherness, responsible drug use, and a sense of consistency and 
integrity. 

promoters, if you're reading this, take a cue from the illuminators.  do
it for the right reasons.  you're not going to make any money doing
parties--in fact you're going to lose it.  you cant allow irresponsible
drug use--you'll get shut down.  you cant sell drugs to finance your
events for very long--you'll eventually hit a brick wall there (shadiness
begets shadiness).  you cant just thrown an event and then not pay
anyone--you'll get a class action suit slapped on your ass.  and so on. 

it's bigger than all of that...and it's obvious to me that ari and 
kourosh (and mike in this case) definitely have their finger on it.  
anyone who says otherwise just isnt listening.

that's _my_ interpretation.
++ 
e d

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On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, star wrote:

> YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!

Star, I really think that's a bit harsh for people that are just concerned
they're getting ripped off.

> i'm rather upset that you ppl all have such a lack of faith in the chicago 
> scene.  i KNOW THE PROMOTERS and i can ASSure you this party WILL GO OFF!  

That's great... I'm glad you know, but for the info I have, I'm sure that
100% of the "booked" people aren't going to be there... Richie isn't even
allowed back in the US yet.  And he's not one to "sneak" over to
Milwaukee.

> all of the dj's and live acts plane tickets went out last week and the 
> sound deposit has been paid for a month.  McCormic place is ours from 2pm 
> until 4pm the dates of the show. CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T bELIEVE ME 
> 312-303-7283!

Well, I come from a city (Toronto) where DJs (especially Jungle ones for
some reason) get "booked" and their flights are paid and tickets sent, but
then they mysteriously didn't show up because "they missed their flight"
or "they weren't allowed to bring their records with them into the
country", etc.

I've learned to be wary.

> ticket outlets are strictly by word of mouth and special invitation to 
> keep this party underground and keep the vibe for real.  noone will be let 
> into the party without a ticket!

That's great... but with a lineup like that - good luck keeping it
underground.

> and remember, the [Top Secret] preparty will be an official ticket outlet, 
> so plan on a phat preparty too!

I hope you're not taking us for a ride... I'm not trying to be a pain in
the dairy-air, but you have to know my side of it - it just doesn't add
up.

ESP: Richie, Orb, and Orbital... the others I'm not as sure on - but my
friend, who *works* with Richie seems to have a bit more trusting opinion.

anyhow - if anyone knows where I can pick up one of these flyers - I'd
love to have a few - just for the glee of seeing all those wicked ass
names on one sheet.

> see you all there, and keep it REAL....

Peace star... and no hard feelings!

	Tom


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On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, christian matts wrote:

> >> >breaks from the best in the business... east vs west!
> >> >dj icey vs. the hardkiss brothers
> >
> >--> Who?

> fyi.dj icey is some big name club dj ->from miami(?), or somewhere<-
> i have a roomate who thinks hes the shit, but i dont know about all that.

actually he's from orlando.  i heard him playing, on the radio,  out of 
outer limits in lafayette, LA while i was in rehab.
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From: Brent Theisen <brentt@hermine.onlineuw.org>
To: star <star@interaccess.com>
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On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, star wrote:

> sound deposit has been paid for a month.  McCormic place is ours from 2pm 
> until 4pm the dates of the show. CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T bELIEVE ME 
> 312-303-7283!

is it gonna be in both buildings or in just one of 'em?
_____________________________________________________________________________
Brent Theisen                                             brentt@onlineuw.org
					      http://www.onlineuw.org/~brentt
Madison, WI
608.221.4641       		                 There's only 4 years left...


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 16 09:10:45 1996
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havint we gone down this road before?  Ya get us all hot and bothered, drool
running down my lips, etc...and then.... Do you have any idea how huge
McCormic place is?  You could fit Soldiers Field in there!  Twice!  wait,
that would be cool.....drool<------HION


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This party was good!  Nice space, a big bingo parlor, and fuckkin-A killer
lasers!  Wow.  I thought the sound volume was too high, but oh well, it went
off nice.  I didnt pay attention to who spun when, but the music was really
cool, trance, tribal, and Rabbit in The Moon.  They are---interesting.  I
guess its one Dj and he spins and does a live PA, and another guy prances
around like an idiot.  Music was cool, really experimental at times, and
"rabbits" antics ranged from funny, to weird, to moronic, to dangerous
(fire, at a party, c'mon)
for all of the idiocy, he did get the crowd going, so that was cool.  Now I
can say that I saw them.  Great.  really nice vibe and friendly people.
This was my first Indianapolis party and I was impressed.  It was worth the
drive from Chicago.  It was a beautiful sight walking out of the space into
a cool, breazy, pink, Indianna morning.  That is one of my favorite party
experiances-getting to see the sunrise ( I dont see many)  Appreciate that
beauty!  Have a great day, I'm going to bed.<-----HION

P.S.  Happy dad day to all you dads- Trevor, etc...


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 16 11:20:16 1996
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Lord.  My oh my.
Ecstatic has done it again... utilizing a space I haven't been to since 
an old Depth Probe, quite possibly the best rave to hit Minneapolis (of 
those that I have attended), which went off as a HUGE success.  Sound was 
perfect, surrounded by incredible lighting, floors were clean, nice 
trampoline to sit on in the back of the dance floor on a stage, plenty of 
WATER supplied in *gasp* CUPS for FREE?!?!, lovely people walking around 
with trays filled with cand-e, and over all an incredible vibe.  The only 
two  negatives were the heat (I don't think I have sweated that 
much...ever before), and one of the ambient room dj's... I'm not sure of 
his name, but it was some of the most non-flowing sound scapes that I 
have ever heard... Nice if I was attending a concert of Musique Concrete 
compositions, but not in this context.  Glad to see so many friends there 
(Dylan you were *SORELY* missed), especially those who trecked out from 
WI (Jennifer!, KC!)

I think with the work of Ecstatic and U-80, this could turn out to be a 
pretty incredible summer!	

-Xavier

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From: Davis Daniel J <davisd@odo.msoe.edu>
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well thats 2 for milwaukee
2 new promoters 2 poor parties
this one happened at a horse corrall north of milwaukee (im still diggin
the fucking dirt outta my nose)
this was one of the most WACK ways to throw a party  ....
first you come up on the party to see a highly spotlighted (you could
see the lights for about three miles to the party) area where i gathered
was the party.....drive up and they direct you THREW THE FUCKING
PARTY...not the actual dance floor but the main gate ...then you get out
and do a 180 and pay to be let in ...hmmmmmmmm......no wonder so many
peoples got in for free.......first we walked up and jus somehow walked
right through the gate until we were accosted by one of the promoters
saying did you guys pay?  i was like lady  where? i was all too willing to
help support a new milwaukee crew 
well after this i strolled in to a beautiful hanger-like structure,
perfect for a party, and heard someone spinnin some nice tunes then jus as
soon as i see where the dj is THE MUSIC DIES  :(     after a few minutes
it comes back up to about 1/4 level  along with the music going down of
course the vibe died right there 
then FEELGOOD came on   wow  this boy knows how to uplift a crowd (given
the circumstances)....after feelgood was john keesen  i would luv to hear
more of this in the midwest...
i didnt really pay attention to who went on after that so after they shut
the music off aroun 4:30 we headed to the afterhours.....this is the worst
thing i really really hate about busted/shutdown early parties....kids try
to find a somewhat sober driver....all the way home my sober driver
(thanks tony *hugs*) and i watched cars swerve all over the road.....but
on to the afterhours  
VITAMIN D came on   WOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!    all i gots to say
then the delirious feeling came over me and i became a smiling vegetable   





 student formally known
as mikeyd discordia 
soon  http://www.msoe.edu/~davisd


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father's day to all the kids with kids... =)

peace,
mean daddy mindkiss


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I'm going to keep this short, but this party was the goddamned bomb!!!!!

Most everything about it was awesome.  The vibe, the music, the space, the
peepz, etc.  

One thing I never want to see again in my life, tho, is Clinton dancing in
his hanes!  :P  

If anyone from out of town had considered making their way up to a
minneapolis party, this was the one!  

If anyone is coming up for Whack Street I won't be seeing yaz, but I'll see
ya at Dustin's party on the 29th.

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On a side note, and this has really nothing to do with the party nor the
people that threw it.  But I had a disappointing personal moment seeing
someone I assumed to have a lot of integrity and depth as a person, just
blow that image I had of her away in just a minute of action.

That was the only whack ass thing about the whole night.
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Hi guys...

 Lemme start off by saying that this is a Becky review, so if you don't 
wanna read it, or don't like long reviews, hit your delete key now...

  Okay, Now for those of you who still are around, let me do my review!

 Hi DOUG AND KEVIN!!!! *waves* Glad to see Doung finally learned how to 
read.. *grin* I had better see Kevin's hard work, and be reading a post 
from Doug in a couple days!

 Okay, with that over... Let the party begin....

 After much frustration and confusion, Karla and I managed to find her 
keys, go to Meijers and get some Nametags and water, then we drove to 
becca's on sat afternoon. Then all three of us hit Toys R'Us where we got 
BLowpops that never got passed out, and a bunch of glowsticks... They 
jakked the price of glowsticks up 50 cents btw... and 1/3 of the ones we 
bought turned out to be duds... Time to find another toy store methinks...

  Okay, after Toys R'Us, we headed up to Dayton, in the late afternoon. 
We got to the space, and found our dear best friend Katerina covered from 
head to toe with black dirt, and Arash, Paul, Ben and JJ didn't look much 
better... Karla and I picked up a broom and kinda helped push dirt around 
for a while, and then us grrls decided to go "run a few errands" *grin* 
Noone but us STILL knows what we did on our errands, and we aren't telling...

  When we got back, Arash put us to work moving a few barrels and skids 
around to block a couple areas off, and help set up the tables in the 
main room.. eeewww that was DIRTY!!! But kinda fun... I didn't even 
realize I had a big black smudge on my nose, and black crap all over my 
butt until becca started beating my ass (or was it Katerina?) Then, 
BEcca, Karla, and everyone at the site decided to go off and shower/clean 
up before coming back to the party.. WE followed Sean and Debbie, the 
Smart BAr guys to the hotel (mad props to them for use of their shower) 
and waited for like 40 minutes for towels.... But, we got showers, and 
got a visit from Doug (Doughboy) and KEvin (kevvy kev), and ended up 
going upstairs to their room to hang out for a while. That's where we got 
to meet Mark Gage (aka Vaporspace).. If you all didn't get a chance to 
talk to him, I really recommend you do. He's a REALLY REALLY nice guy!!! 
Btw, Who won between Jerry Springer and that Dcik guy on "the fake talk 
show?" we missed it! =(

 Okay, after all that we went back to the sapce and got to eat PIZZA!!! 
By the time we got there, there were the very first few partiers there, 
but we werent' letting anyone in yet.. So people started to filter in, 
and we got to filter them back out again.. That's when Becca, Kat and I 
decided to go get our special security action SQUIRT GUNS filled up. 
*grin* You think those were bad... Just imagine us with Super Soakers... 
*light bulb goes on* Hey grrls! Super Soakers at IO3???? *grin*

 Okay, finally we let the kids in around like what 12:30??, and the party 
started... Mikes friend from Missouri and Tamara started things off 
righteous in the main room, and Ben, (lucky him, I stayed awake) in the 
second room.. Ben, all I can say is YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! *grin* Especially 
with the last song.. you got me moving...

 I kinda missed some of the party after that, because I was busy running 
around introducing everyone to everyone, and then working the door.. But 
come 3 o'clock, I was in from for Vaporspace.. Wow..... Wow.... Wow... He 
literally brought me to tears..... It was incredible... I dunno if I can 
even begin to describe it.. I guess ED put it well by saying it was very 
emotional... Marc, I danced for you like a crazy person, once I managed 
to get my body moving.. It took a few minutes though, because i was so 
astounded.... WOW... we MUST have Mark Gage come out again....

 After Vaporspace, I was in a prcatically zombie-like state, so I went 
out to the car, after standing there watching this kid who was VERY VERY 
fucked up, or had od'ed on K, and making sure my first aid traning was 
needed, and running into kevin and doug and Cherish in the parking lot, 
as they were getting ready to leave, and saying bye bye.. I tried to 
sleep until about 5:45, but I was freezing, and it was getting light out, 
so I got out of Becca's trunk (heeheeheehee) and went to find everyone... 
By the way, is it just me, or if you try to take a nap while at a party 
does everyone else get really cold??? I think it's because I was moving 
moving moving, and sweating, and once my blood stops moving, I start 
freezing?? Help me out here!!

 So, we hung out for about another 45 minutes to an hour, and said good 
bye to everyone, and Becca, Karla and I headed to DEnny's which was (for 
once, amazingly) practically empty, and got to watch a waitress accost 
and obnoxious fool who tried to leave without paying his bill in the 
parking lot, ate our food, and left for home. I passed out in the car, 
and woke up as we dropped Karla off at home, and came home, very dirty 
and very tired... And very happy with this party.... It was GREAT!! 

 It's kinda weird, but I've never really "helped out helped out" before a 
party before, and throughout the entire nite, it was kinda cool to be 
able to sit back, and see everyone else enjoying the hardowrk everyone 
put in, to this party... I'd like to be able to help out more often... 
*hint hint*

 Okay, here's the running count of everyone I remember who was there from 
the net... JULIAN!!!, Marke, Becca, KAterina, Karla (kaykay), Doug 
(doughboy) Kevin (kevvy kev), Kell, Ed, Charles, NAncy, Jen, Jen, Tad, 
BRent, Scott (mint), Tamara, Allison, Mike, TONY RAMOS, Ed Jones, Satya, 
Jess, Jim (Cosmic), BEN (phunky phresh and HARd dj Cylert), Arash, and I 
have the feeling I'm forgetting a few.. (sorry, let me know who you are)

 Thanks a lot, and I'll see you all at IO3 (HOPEFULLY).. I'm leaving in 
10 days, as most of you know.... =) And I'll pass on all the hugs and 
smooches and hello's to MArc like promised. =)

 Love you guys!!

*hugs-n-smooches*

-Becky =) (da energizer snugglebunny) (dj scraped knees) heehee

p.s. I think we should keep a running count of who blows black crap out 
of their nose the longest... ;) *wink* I have a feeling I'll be blwoing 
it out until this time next year! ;) Love that OLD SKOOL/Detroit style 
site!! =)


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Okay, I think i've got enough sleep and I've sobered up enough to look at 
this party through clear eyes now.  And I've gotta say that I'm really 
worried that this party's ruined everything for me.  On one hand, I'll 
never want to go to another shitty summer daze-esque party, because I've 
been in party heaven and nothing will ever compare to last night's 
party.  But on the other hand, I'm really quite afraid of parties like 
the one last night.  I mean, what's the point of trying to go and 
experience the great vibe when you cant trust anyone with candy? Well, 
maybe that's going too far.  But as things stand right now, it's going to 
take A LOT for me to rebuild the trust that I had in the whole scene.  In 
case you missed my other post, I was given some red licorice with acid in 
it.  I proceeded to have a good trip for a little while, and then it got 
very bad.  I spent a good 2 hours sitting in a corner half-crying.  I am 
very grateful to some people and I want to give them credit right now: 
My best friends Jay Landro, Hollie Schultz and Rina Lang for getting me 
home safely and being very supportive.  And also Dustin Bowman for 
helping me out during the worst part of my trip.  I really want to get in 
touch with the girl that gave me the stuff- I really don't understand why 
she would've done that.  So if anyone knows her, she was wearing big phat 
black "mom and me" pants and a shiny pink tank-top last night.  I cant 
remember very well but i think she was very pale and had very light blond 
hair.  If you can help me get in touch with her, please help me.  I want 
to assure her that i'm not mad at her and that I dont want to give her 
any trouble, but I just need to know WHY she did it. I had planned to go 
to pretty much every party this summer, and now I really doubt that 
that'll happen.  Chances are about 50/50 as far as me going to mac 
street. I'll definitely be at wonderland though! But hey, I must be 
infected with the party bug because even as I type this the urge to go to 
mac street grows.  Thanks to everyone on this list for being super nice- 
I love you all.  And once again, thanks to estatic music for throwing a 
great party. My friends all thought I was on something before I was on 
something, because I was just flying through that party. Well, this post 
is falling into senseless rambling. Please, if you know that girl, help 
me get in contact with her.

chris e
 

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DAMN, come on people,  THis is a joke...dont any of you remember this 
shit from back in April...like April 1st, check the date on that 
pre-flier...::)

PLEASE, stop this maddness!

ps dj Icey is confirmed for ST. Louis 6-22-96 at Foundation, Info line 
is 314-567-2097, should be a great time::)

PLUR
-jason


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Hello everyone.  Just wanted to give my review on CHARM. I am surprised that
there weren't more of them on this posting thing.
In any case...I can basically say that the site was pretty surreal and
actually kinda funky-cool except for that black nasty shit which coated my
body.  Ugh..but whatever.

The party started being somewhat of just a gathering place.  No one was
really into the music but things began to pick up for me (I'm not
generalizing for everyone else) after Jim tore it up in that back room with
his set.  I was thoroughly impressed.  I'll admit right now that I don't know
how to move to jungle..but the beat got my feet moving a little so that was
nice.  Oh BTW..I was standing outside the lil room watching someone dance.  I
didn't mean to keep staring at you...whoever you are but you were STRAIGHT
grooving to the extreme and I could not help but be facinated with the way
you were able to move to the music.  I wasn't trying to hit on you or
anything...   :)

Okay as for the music in the main room.  The first thing I want to say: to
those people who left before DJ Alison spun...I am soooo sorry...you pretty
much missed the whole point of that party.  HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE
CENTURY>>>she rocked my world..and a half.  She was ALL that and a bag of
chips...including the salsa.  Ya dig?  This girl brought that incredible west
coast flava into the house and completely hypnotized everyone with the great
vibe and energy she released through her set.  It was amazing and anyone who
stayed around to listen will automatically agree.  It was insane how much the
vibe of the party changed to that of a REAL party once that girl's magical
fingers touched her gear and those tables.  I WAS NOT able to stop moving
when she was spinning and it got to a point where I thought I was going to
die from dehydration.   At some points I was chuckling to myself cuz I
couldn't believe how ridiculously "perfect" her music was down to the last
teasing drum roll and the seductive boomin' bass.  You guys get my point..she
rocked my mind, my body and my world.  Period.  Nothing more to babble about.
But of course the story doesn't stop there.  She switched off to another
equally mindblowing magician ......Kell.

...Kell...sheesh!!   What can I say?  Seriously..what is it about this guy
that he never disappoints and always knows what the crowd wants. Was he born
to this world with his headphones and tables already in tact?? Was he even
born on this planet??  The transition from Alison to Kell was sooo smooth
that I didn't even know they switched had I not seen Alison out on the dance
floor grooving after she was finished.  Okay as for Kell..without me going
off on another one of my tangents....he was all that, a bag of chips,
salsa...AND tax included.  I don't know what it is.  Perhaps it was the 2 vs
1 license plate game we were playing..maybe it was that nice greasy so called
"food" at the WH.. OR...maybe it's those funky fresh headphones of his.(
Wait..the ones I bought or the ones you bought?)  *sending a huge cheezy
Velveeta grin towards him cuz I'm wondering if he believes me yet.*    You
were beautacious..easy as pie. 

In any case..the two of them completely brought life to that party.  Actually
I take that back.  Alison gave life to the party by kicking it's ass out of
the grave and giving it the energy to live and basically Kell gave it the
wings to fly.  It's a damn shame that they were on so late.  Most of the
people left before they had a chance to even begin partying.  Would have been
nice to have a whole warehouse full of people grooving together under those
that crazy-ass duo.  Mad, MAd, MAD, MAD ASS props to them both and everyone
else that bared and grined it (for the first 5-6 hours??) until they threw
down and responded to them by dancing their asses off and shining their
smiles.  You know who you wonderful peeps are!!  

Okay so I've given my review.  I'd like to know what other people thought of
it.  Especially those that stuck around for these two magicians' sets.  Hope
everyone else had fun partying wherever they were this weekend.  Take care
everyone. Not dropping names but just wanted to say hi to all the people I
was introduced to there and the ones I met up with too.   Laterz
Peace out
Allyson

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 16 18:45:52 1996
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From: Dan Smith <robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu>
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yeah it took me a while to find that post, but finally I did.  Back on
april fools day someone posted about that event.  its was a joke.  and
anyways, pete namlook is one tough cat to get to play at a "party."  He
would be the soul reason I would attend such a line up, no offense to
anyone else but hey, tis pete!  he's the smack.


Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi


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Not that this will help you decide to go to parties in the future or
anything, but ...

Bad trips on acid are purely psychological.  I'm sure your bad trip was
simply an emotional reaction to the fact you were tripping against will, and
that got out of hand.

There are a couple of things to do when you start to feel your trip slide
down.  Drinking lots of water, eating fresh fruit always help me feel alot
cleaner about what's going on.  A megadose of niacin (I believe it's niacin,
check the drug archives on hyperreal.com) is said to kill a trip or atleast
subdue it's intensity.

Also, depending on your grip with self will and how determined a person you
are, you can also "talk yourself down" or generate positive thoughts towards
bringing the trip back up to an even keel.  I've known a couple of times
where I've nearly negated the trip by talking myself down, most notably the
times in my youth when I had to eat dinner with the folx ;)

And, of course, it's all proportionate to the amount of lsd you've chewed.
You'd be hard pressed to talk yourself down after chewing a ten strip, but a
single dose should be no problem.

The worst case I've had to deal with was some kid at a MORE party a few
years ago.  We had him in the chill area and were repeatedly asking him his
name, his address, how old he was, what his favorite color was, etc. -
basically asking him simple questions that he could focus on and not get
lost on a tangent of thought.  When we started he barely knew his address
and he had his first and last names reversed.  But after about 15 minutes to
half an hour we had him somewhat grounded and he had a good time the rest of
the night.

Anyways, hope that's helpful to anyone :)

earache

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I N T E R S T E L L A R
O U T B A C K 
						v 3.0 (the search continues)

a 3 day outdoor event somewhere in Kentuchy

On August 16th, 17th and 18th, 1996


Djs donating their time and talent to our scene (more to be added soon)

Astroboy (St Louis)
Casper	(Chicago)					
Chip B	(Nashville)		
David Holland (NYC)			
Feelgood (Baltimore)
French E (Another planet)	
Frequency M (Boston) http://www.crl.com/~mjs/					
Ian Mariano	 (Cleveland)
Jethox (DBN, Milwaukee)
Justin Long	(Chicago)
Larry Break	(Nashville)			
Leviathan (Louiville)
Matt (Louiville)
Skinner	(Industrial Strength Records) http://www.interactive.net/~skinner
Sleepcy C (Cleveland)	 			


3 sound systems :

-Drop Bass Network	
-Dynamic Groove
-Maxximum (Bassrush squared system)

Lights :

-Maxximum

Visuals :

-Optimistiq w/ 2 12*9 screens

Lasers :

-Centrax

Cool Karma sutff :

-We will be working with a major, charitable research foundation.  (We are 
still finallizing this one but just for a hint, these folks think we may not 
be alone.)



	

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        I saw something today that worried me.  I was home in the redneck
backwater of Platteville, WI
for dad's day (cuz i'm such a good son).  anyway, it was about 12:30, i had
just woken up and was having a cup of coffee, enjoying my first smoke of the
day, and reading the Wisconsin State Journal (maddyson's biggest newspaper).
Anyway, i flip thru it and then i find an article called "Rave On" (irony?)
on the frontpage of the Showcase section, with big pictures from Even
Furthur.  It said something like "livens young spirits, raises community's
eyebrows."  The whole article was pretty nonpartisan, which pleased me.
They talked to cops, promoters, ravers, and told everything in a just the
facts manner.  But they're were a couple things that worried me:  first,
there were a couple lines that were almost verbatim quotes from my letter to
the editor in the isthmus, and in no way do i wanna think i prompted this at
all (article also talked a bit about controversy surrounding UFO).  The
article also said Even Furthur is "currently under investigation by the
Richland County Sheriff's department?  What?  It was permitted and
everything!  it also gave a figure of 3,700 attendees, and said some had to
be turned away.
        But what really worries me is the big media exposure of the madison
scene this represents.  Once the media starts getting in the act, more
people will start coming to parties which will lead to more problems (more
drugs, more parking and curfew problems, etc.)  It's not that I'm against
the movement spreading, because there is no way you can call it underground
anymore.  i'm just worried that this might lead to more legal
action/resistance to the scene.  so far we have been pretty much tolerated,
that's about all i can say.  but madison has a rep for being very well
behaved at our parties, so i guess we'll just try to serve as good examples
to everyone else.  I like madison a lot just because you can come to a party
here and not have to be wearing a $400 outfit and dance like you've been
taking lessons since you were 5.  oh well....i'm blathering ;~)

        Oh btw...about Mnpls being a house city.... what about Esp Woody and
Communique?  =)

                                                                            
                            peace, Marc


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well, 3 of us madtown kids decided to head up to mpls this weekend for this
party. i mainly wanted to go to see james christian, the man with the weak
handshake (joey beltram), and danny the wildchild.

i had no idea what i was in for. the party was $15, and goddamn this party
was worth it.

i've noticed for quite some time that promoters don't realize all the very
small things you can do to make a party that much better. ecstatic music
realized this, and put some extra fun into the party with things like:

-a small chill out room, seperate from the ambient room, with the floor
covered with blankets, mattresses, and that plastic bubble wrap that's so
fun to pop

-a baby pool in one of the hallways converted into a bubblebath

-the little bubble making machine in the stairwell

-the free gum that was served to you (even in the chillout room)

-the inflatable barney punching doll that was abused throughout the night :)

-the big pink ball!

the TRAMPOLINE, on top of the stage at the opposite end of the room from the
main system, complete with pillow in the middle and a huge american flag
which was oh so fun to play with.

the only drawbacks were the heat/humidity, not enough bass for my tastes
although i think they probably had to keep it down because it looked like
they had plenty of bins, and the fact that despite this being such an
awesome party most everyone was out of there by 5 a.m. as for music i hardly
paid attention i was having so much running all over the place and acting
like i was 5. everything i heard and danced too was good, although i do
think that danny the wildchild scratched excessively. i mean hey, scratching
can be cool but at least let the people dance to the actual music a little.

but none of these things really bothered me. this party was easily the most
*fun* (as in run around like a 5 year old) that i have ever been to. i will
always remember hanging out in that little chill out room, bouncing on the
trampoline with a bunch of other kids while holding the flag over our heads,
and playing with the barney punching doll and that big pink ball. another
trip to mpls would definitely be worth it for another party like this. :)

-kc


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MEGADETH is coming to Chicago?

----------
From: 	mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com on behalf of christian matts
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>> >breaks from the best in the business... east vs west!
>> >dj icey vs. the hardkiss brothers
>> >
>
>--> Who?

fyi.dj icey is some big name club dj ->from miami(?), or somewhere<-
i have a roomate who thinks hes the shit, but i dont know about all that.




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>>starts 6:00pm EASTERN 'til ???
>REQUIRES REALAUDIO, NETSCAPE 1.0+,
>and a 28.8 modem.

i thought that you could use a 14.4 modem?
simple



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>i feel strongly about this, and that's part of the reason i support their
>events and why i'm writing this now.  if anyone thinks they are rich
>foreigners who dont really care about the scene, or that they are too
>hardcore about their "anit-drug" stance or whatever, you're entitled to
>your interpretation.  but _my_ interpretation, based solely on the quality
>of their events, is that more often than not, they do it because they are
>making a statement in support of a lot of good things:  good music from
>locally or abroad, a relatively cheap price, a real sense of
>togetherness, responsible drug use, and a sense of consistency and
>integrity.

heres my $.o2 about the illuminators. after having a long conversation with
someone* the was  and may still be in volved with it. im not tring to dis
the illuminaters, b/x they have more heart thanmost any promoters here in
the windy city(who are nostly about $$$, but its getting better.)

i have to give them their credit where due. 1st off for being the first ppl
the throw more than one party, sortof consitantly, but not really. as far
as thowing cheap parties, well does anyone rember the party 12/30/96? that
was $20 it was a really god party but it was more of a $15 party.

and the other thing is the fact that very few pplin dayton(ididnt know who
they were untillafter i moved to chicago) or else were know who the
illuminators are/were. they only knew *ari(sp?,who told me who they are and
what they are allabout.) they also dont consistantly throw parties, which
isnt good or bad, thats just how they are.

oh well i guess i dont have a real point, but ill stop using your time.

simple
312resident513native



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>On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, star wrote:
>
>> YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!
>
>Star, I really think that's a bit harsh for people that are just concerned
>they're getting ripped off.
>
>> i'm rather upset that you ppl all have such a lack of faith in the chicago
>> scene.  i KNOW THE PROMOTERS and i can ASSure you this party WILL GO OFF!


star, i have lack of faith in chicago b/c of my bad experiences here. they
outweigh the god ones, and there are good people promoting parties in
chicago, but ive seen too too many bogus fliers to not question every "mega
party" esp here. they other thing that made me question it, is the fact
that i havnt seen aanyfliers except the eflier from mwraves and that didnt
have any phone # and it was supost to be a preflier. but if you know the
promoter, i trust you.

simple/christian



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one other question. is if they what to have aunderground party, and
concidering how little ive heard about this party how do they plan to fill
the space? and why dont they find some place smaller than the largest indor
venue in chiago (as far as i know).

im not to dis you or the party just still sounds kinda fishy to me.

simple



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>At 01:15 AM 6/17/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>i have to give them their credit where due. 1st off for being the first ppl
>>the throw more than one party, sortof consitantly, but not really. as far
>>as thowing cheap parties, well does anyone rember the party 12/30/96? that
>>was $20 it was a really god party but it was more of a $15 party.
>
>Dec 30 1996 hasn't happened yet.  :)
 err  i ment the partry they though dec 30 1995. opps messed up the year.

simple



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Does anybody have any information on what the part number for the pitch
slider is on a 1200? Or, more generally, is it a 10k audio-taper? The
reason I ask is an electronics overstock liqidator company sent me a
catalog and the things (10k audio-taper sliders) are made a big deal over
without any mention of turntables, cost 12 times as much as other sliders
they've got, and that comes to a total of $6 per slider. Pretty damn good.
So I was wondering if this was indeed the right part. 

However, I don't have 1200s. I have Gemini XL-BD10s, with short little
+/- 6% sliders, and I was thinking hey if those are 10k I could swap them
out and have nice long sliders on my tables. That'd be nice.

Sorry if this seems like geekbabble to a lot of you, it is. But of the
mailing lists I'm on this seemed the most appropriate one to post to,
given the high percentage of DJs.

-Gage

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>..... (and this is NOT a 
>dis to house, but too many dj's in mnpls spin the same tired house tracks 
>over and over again and it's just sad.) "mnpls is a house city: it should 
>STAY that way"
>dylan


It definitely used to be an acid city.    I spin some house (mostly on the
weird trax side, occasionally I'll drop a deep house track) and techno (up
to the heavy heavy).     In mpls., when I lean on the heavy the dance floor
kind of chickens out, when I lean to the house it dances more.     Lately,
I've been thinking this is changing.  Maybe because there are a number of
us who have been spinning techno at them and various peoples are tuning in
and realizing there is a good source for the stuff.     Maybe I'm imagining
it.  At Furthur I got to lean in and hit them hard and I could sense that
every time I slugged weird at them, they liked it !!!     Gots to spin in
Milwaukee more :)
I'm bleeding the house stuff out of my sets, so Mpls. will just have to
adapt (encourage the techno heads out there, don't worry about all those
house girlz and guys).     Alex Jarvis claims he will no longer spin house,
just techno !    He might chicken out, but he seems pretty serious.
Apollo is mostly spinning techno, less track house.
Slip lays the heavy mojo down.
Now we just have to get Earache to go back to hard Gabber ;)

p.s. any promoters out there that want a tape, I got one for you. 

  Over and Out.

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                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

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p.s. there were no house djs at Bubbilicious !!!!

  Over and Out.

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                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

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>k, this is the first time i posted on this newsgroup, hope you guys dont
>think im lame cuz im on aol.
sucker ;)


>a coupla bad things did happen, i had two hits and one i accidentally
>swallowed, not too bad but i puked bout 3 am.  then a guy taking money at the
>door ran off with 1500 in cash!!!  the cops came later and talked to the guy
>holding the rave.  they caught the guy but couldnt do anything, no proof.  

There are some more complexities to this.    Actually, I am no longer
convinced that he did take any money.    The fact of the matter is, the
party was not organized that well and had lots of comps.   There really
wasn't all that much money anyway.     The person in question has been very
upfront the entire time and made it very clear what motel he was staying
in.   The other promoter guy WAS on drugs at the time (which though I quite
liked the guy, is not a very smart thing to do), and I think things got
kind of confused.     On the other hand, I don't know all these people that
well and it might well be that money was taken, but not 1500.   There
simply wasn't that much to take.


>
>but other than that, i had the best time of my life.
get out of here !  :)

  it was so awesome.  the
>acid was great.  the djs were great. 
We all thank you.   I was told that it would be all house djs all night,
but we all spun pretty damn hard.   Made a LOT of very good friends that
night.   Devil Girl and Phyzik and Kitten made the party very special for
me.

> going outside and walking around and
>chilling was fun.  
>
>you guys all have fun at bubbliscous or where ever youre going.  
We did, thanks.

>
>derik
>
>========================================
>"real ravers go for the scene, not to be seen" -me 
>======================================== 

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Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

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Hey all..I just wanted to tell all of us techno/dance/house music 
listeners out there that I finally got the Hackers soundtrack....I know that
in relation to the majority of *rave* music out there that this really
fits into the house above all else...but...the main reason that I want
to tell all of you that it is finally out is because after seeing this
movie and listening to the !excellent! soundtrack I was sucked into the
whole dance/underground/RaVe scene....and because of a really great kool 
space kitty I wouldn't be involved with you guys....with the whole scene
in the first place...so I guess that is a good enough reason to rant and 
rave...right???:) anyway.....at least borrow it if you can't listen to it...




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just to say...

if you ever go to a party where sound-o-mighty is doing the sound...take
earplugs.

love, luck, and lollipops,
michael
allroy

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Chris Sattinger (Chris Sattinger) wrote:
> 
> >..... (and this is NOT a
> >dis to house, but too many dj's in mnpls spin the same tired house tracks
> >over and over again and it's just sad.) "mnpls is a house city: it should
> >STAY that way"
> >dylan
>18th & como is responsible for this...just kidding;)
 
> It definitely used to be an acid city.    
>proper respect to woody mcbride!

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I know it's dangerous for me, and I did promise my doctor that I'd cut
back, but I've been thinking again.  It all started with Vapor Space at
Charm... Mark's performance was everything I had hoped it would be... but,
I found myself asking a lot of questions about it later when I had time to
sit down and think about stuff that would keep me from driving my car into
a guard-rail on the ride home.

It basically came down to dancing... I realized, as I rode home thinking
about it, that I really didn't dance to his set.  When I got home I pulled
out my Vapor Space records and tried to review the experience... I LOVE the
music but it didn't make me really want to dance... (which probably
explains why I have never played any of those tracks at a party).  I'm
really not interested in whether mark's tracks are danceable or not, but
instead, I've been thinking about dancing in general.  The Vapor Space
thing just got me musing...

I've noticed that there are pretty much two kinds of dancers at parties...
There are those who do moves and those who are just moving.  I hadn't
really been able to get a clear picture of the two as they relate to each
other before and it just kinda dawned on me a little while ago.  There are
dance moves... we've all seen people doing them and some of us even keep
some tucked away in our dictionary of dance... What occurred to me was that
in a way they are a kind of ritual.  Basically a ritual is something
repeated over and over... Like many of those "moves" you see people doing
on the dance floor.

I know there are religious undertones to the word ritual, so I'll just
follow the analogy a little ways.  In a religion there are people who go to
church, confession, communion, whatever, with regularity and perform all
the rituals... however, many of these people are just doing these things
out of habit.  Ritual is one aspect of religion, it is the paved road.
Personally I'm more interested in those people who deviate from the paved
road (let's say William Blake for an example).  I like to think of rituals
as a foundation for these more unorthadox explorations.  Like an initiative
period in which basic forms are ingrained into a persons consciousness.

Back to Dancing... When a person starts going to parties, they are kinda
looking around and watching other people dance (especially if dancing isn't
something they have done a lot of in the past) and they kinda imitate and
learn.  They are aclimating to the environment.  So they do the moves... I
always hear people saying how some person who just started going to parties
is stealing all their moves ;)  (yeah, I'm smiling)  I'd like to point out
real quick, in case you seem to remember those words coming out of your
mouth, that... "imitation is the greatest form of flattery" :)

If someone who has no clue what they should be doing sees you and decides
to imitate your style they must think you know what's up... And hey if you
think someone can steal all your moves... then you aren't the great dancer
you may think you are... :)  I'm of the same opinion when it comes to
records... if for one minute I thought that by having the same records as
me, someone could totally cop my style then... jeez, what makes me a
compitent dj?  hmmmmmmmm... Brain Food... :)  If it were just about the
parts then, why continue doing it?

So back to these "moves"... Ritual is also about recalling the past (ie.
reafirming an idea)  Lets say you came up with some "move" at this
incredible party and it was perfect, it felt good, it matched the music and
the emotion to a tee... You'd do it again to recapture the feeling you had
then... Put you back in a groove so to speak.  Rituals are a way of
reestablishing an idea in your mind so you can start from that point and
move forward.  You know, like when christians take communion to reestablish
their faith by recalling that last supper.  When I first start dancing, I'm
just trying to get my body moving, get the blood flowing, let the rhythm
infect my muscles, and get used to having my body controlled from without
for a while... I do the same stuff every time.  It's only after about 20-30
minutes of sweating that I catch myself doing things that I've never done
before... it's inspired :)  The ritual steps are a springboard.

I guess some people just never go that far... I have looked at people a lot
as kinda clueless for dancing like that... but, now I guess it makes a
little more sense.  Everyone has to get comfortable with themselves and the
act of dancing before they can step outside the bounds of accepted
activity.  It takes a few minutes for some people, a few hours for others,
a few parties for some more, and maybe a whole lifetime for others still...
The point is that ritual has it's place.  It's a tool for some and
protection for others...  I mean stepping outside is pretty damn scarey and
sometimes dangerous (ask someone who's had a really bad trip before or then
again there's William Blake, who, if he hadn't been conidered completely
nuts, would have probably been executed)

So why has it bothered me for so long that I see people dancing that way?
This is the second part of my musings... My basic distrust of ritualized
experiences is that it's so easy to replace inspiration with ritual.
Religions have done this over the years to make themselves more
marketable... ie, you don't have to be a raving saint to be one of us...
all you have to do is give in and let us tell you what to do and come to
church every sunday... Simple!  I shudder to think that our little parties
have taken that turn on the evolutionary road.

I think what makes it more noticeable is the number of people at their
first parties who are dancing and the number of seasoned ravers who are not
dancing... (massive generalization I know, forgive me)  I'm just saying
that so many of the people throwing down out there are excited and inspired
and want to dance, that means they haven't had to deal with all the shit
that goes along with the parties yet.  ;)  So, there is this big clump of
people doing the "moves" and the rest of people who do not necessarily do
the moves anymore watching.  I've heard, and in many cases said myself,
some rather derisive things about that condition... most of the time it's
something about an attitude about dance moves and how that's all that's
important... *shrug* maybe it is maybe it isn't, but, the more people out
there just doing moves there are, the less it becomes about anything else.


I'm gonna say it again, though sometimes I feel like I've beaten the horse
into dust, If you want to see something happen... DO IT.  People get so
self conscious about that.  They stop going to parties because everyone
they knew stopped, they don't dance because no one is dancing the way they
used to, etc etc... No matter what gripe I have about something going on, I
can never escape the thought that I could be doing something about it... or
that I'm just not seeing it correctly.  I don't complain a whole lot about
parties... The only thing that really bothers me these days is when someone
is saying one thing and doing something else.  All this other stuff is just
like some misunderstanding or lack of effort.

So I retract anything I may have said about people who seem to be dancing
without listening to the music... DUH! it's a lot to think about if you are
just starting and if you seem to worry a lot about how you look then you
have a more pressing situation than personal exploration... the most
important thing at a party is that we all feel comfortable.  Different
people need different things to feel comfy.  I cannot condemn people for
doing what they need to do to have a good time (as long as they don't hit
me or step on my foot, or shove me in the process ;)  hee hee)

After you get the rituals down and you feel comfortable with the basic
tennents of dancing then explore and be creative.  It's common sense when
you are experimenting with psycho-active substances that you never take
anything you are not prepared to take.  Why would non-chemical exploration
of you consciousness be any different?  A bad trip and a bad party
experience are more similar than you might at first think... both can turn
you off to future attempts and then all is lost.  *sigh*  Let's spend some
time making more rituals and less time worrying about the mindless repition
of the old ones... :)

Anyway, that's my epiphany for the day... Props to Mark for inspiring this
line of thought with his neuron-melting performance at Charm, and to Dj
Allison for getting me in the groove to dance and spin last night.  As I
head to the bathroom for my third attempt at getting the last bit of black
grime off my skin and out from under my fingernails I'd like to also give
thanks to everyone who cleaned that place up before the party (I shudder to
think it was actually dirtier before).  Definitely one of the better
experiences I've had in a while.

With utmost respect...


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Dj Kell                                           Sound- 606.268.9843
Lexington, Kentucky                       Alpha-Numeric- kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu
Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

____________________________________________________________________________
MIND                  BODY                  SOUL                  TECHNOLOGY



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Well, since i have nothing better to do at five in the morning, i thought
y'all might be curious to know the (final?) lineup for FA2. i havent seen
this posted, and i already have the flyer. so here is what the flyer says:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

underground peace society presents:

FAMILY AFFAIR TWO: THE REUNION
July 5-6
Akron, OH
main info line: 330.258.1037


JOEY BELTRAM--tressor records new york
DEEP DISH BOYS--sharam and dubfire perform as, yoshi toshi records, dc
CARLOS--sf house movement
ROBERT ARMANI--dance mania records, chicago
PROTOTYPE 909--(performing live) instinct records, nyc
JOHNNY FIASCO--relief/cajual records, chicago
SOULSLINGER--junglesky music, nyc WITH T.C. ISLAM--zulu nation nyc
GAVIN HARDKISS--with tribal drummer SHAHEEN, hardkiss music san fran
K.HAND--acacia records, detroit
ATOMIC BABIES--(live) digital hut, nyc
DBX--7th city detroit
FEELGOOD--buzz/fever, baltimore
DJ EARTH--minneapolis
HYPERACTIVE--contact records, chicago
WILL WEB--direct beat records, detroit
JASON MATHEW--penetrate records, canada
REBEL CREW--(straight outta houston live PA) herb life prod. houston tx
SCORPION--konkrete jungle, nyc
LOVEGROVE--sonic soul, baltimore
JORDAN FROM FRESNO--fresno, california
MELLOW MAN--UPS cincinnati
PULSERVER--UPS akron
KELL--parts unknown, lexington
RAS ONE--(providing herbal blessings) UPS akron
J.P. SOUL--ROM buffalo
JAY GOODWILL--god's house inc, delaware
MIKE FILLY--color blind, tone def cleveland
HESOHI--love thang, akron
JASON PATRICK--modern music, baltimore
X'IAN--cincinnati
YOPU--g-force, akron
KEVIN--sunshine kids, pittsburgh
D.CYPOL--local 23, UPS philly
DOMINIC--THC philly
LICK A SHOT--THC philly
JOE KIDD--planet earth, UPS
PERRY ELLIS--calico records, cincinnati
JOE TOTEN--goodvibe records, pittsburgh
YABETTE--UPS akron
SYNAPSE--akron
WILHELM K--col. of knowledge, indy
BOB-A-DOB--clubhead records, cincinnati
DEW BEE--g-force, akron
D WRECK--cleveland
SUPER K--cleveland

PREPARTY:
7.4.96 brought to you by LOVETHANG; location will be 5 min from family
reunion; $25 pre-sale tickets on sale at pre-party
info: LOVETHANG @ 330.214.8837

INTELLIGENT LIGHTING:   Thunder&Lightning
TURBO-SOUND:    SteveSound

PRESALE TICKETS:
On sale June 4, available at the following locations:
RIFF RAFF               akron   330.376.1644
CLUBHEAD RECORDS        cinci   513.665.9999
GOODVIBE RECORDS        pbgh    412.683.2838
LIQUID SKY              nyc     212.343.0532
MODERN MUSIC            balt    410.675.2127

PRESALE TICKET PRICES:  $20 (june 4-june 12)
                        $25 (june 13-july 4)
                        $30 (day of show and at the gate)

BUS TRIPS:  bus trips planned for the following areas; contact the promoter
in your area; more being planned every week, stay tuned
        BALTIMORE--life productions 410.418.0656
        ARIZONA--kids under the carpet 602.929.9168
        TORONTO--alien visitation 416.760.3132
        DELAWARE--unified prod 302.792.7307
        NEW JERSEY--dos collective/new era 908.418.0096

VENDING: space available; contact 330.253.1784 for details

LOVETHANG brings us a live techno workshop; bring your drum machines as
well as your drums and tables for a 21st century drum circle

ARTISTS of all kinds are welcomed and encouraged to take part in the art
extravaganza; those interested should call RIFF RAFF @ 330.376.1644

**FAMILY AFFAIR ][ will be held on over 100 acres of campground in NE ohio.
this is a two day and two night music festival.
camping is available and encouraged.
this event will take place rain or shine, so come prepared!

(thanks to all those who helped, it wouldnt be a reunion without you. nuff
respect to iriginal rasta man, haille selaissie, jah love, all praises due
god)

INFO AND SUPPORT FROM:

OHIO
        spawntaneous    216.779.7188
        justus crew     513.496.4511
        elementals      614.470.0929
        astro kids      513.229.8187

PENNSYLVANIA
        udg inc         412.734.1467
        thc             215.518.1582

NEW YORK
        rom             716.888.8712
        gpa             716.888.8678
        solar luv       212.505.3025
        liquid sky      212.226.0657
        digital hut     718.390.6666

BALTIMORE
        active ingred.  410.276.5967
        life prod.      410.418.0656

CONNECTICUT
        warped          860.548.2263
        swing kids      203.921.1474

DELAWARE
        united prod.    302.792.7307

TORONTO
        alien visitation416.760.3132

CHICAGO
        core            312.509.6334
        ripe            312.509.6453

INDIANA
        paranormal      317.624.2930
        col. of knowl.  317.579.3031

NASHVILLE
        bam             615.780.3730

ATLANTA
        satellite       404.908.7308

ARIZONA
        kids under the carpet   602.929.9168
        planetary groove col.   602.230.4147

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i apologize for any misspellings or typographical errors; its 6am dammit!
but you can attribute me for the corrections i made off of the flyer.
*cough*cincinnati*cough* ;)

brought to you by kate/keight O+




*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
 softcore geek girl
 http://charlotte.acns.nwu.edu/keight/

 



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hey, i was working lastnight and listening to !ack! modern rock live and 
the guests were adam yauch (if you don't know, find out), Beck, and some 
girl form milarpa (an organization to help free Tibet) talking about Tibet 
and a concert they threw in san fran last weekend and all but....


...then they just talked to beck for a while and he casually mentioned 
(okay, plugged) that his new album which will be available Tuesday was 
produced by the DUST BROTHERS.  you know, the boys who did the production 
on the best album of all time?  (Paul's Boutique, like, duh).

so i get "my boy" on the phone and tell him that i want beck for my party 
and he gets on the phone with california and....we have a verbal 
confirmation, with cntracts to be exchanged today via fax and overnight 
mail -- BECK *AND* THE DUST BROTHERS will be appearing, not at the main 
party but only at the [Top Secret] MEGALITH PREPARTY. (which, i still 
contend, is going to be the phattest party to ever tickle your imagination)

so if you've not heard any of the cuts on the new album, they sound fun 
and knowing that the dust brothers are in there makes it kinda worth it 
for me right there (as long as i can find it on vinyl).

oh, and if any of you have ever done a curious substance called Nitrous 
Oxide (see also: FLASH, Green Velvet)  you'll chuckle at the lyrics to the 
b.side track from beck's big silly single "loser"


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MA4--
____Manoeuvres accompanied by a sense of reality transformation
____for the observer. 
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michael mccusty wrote:
> 
> alright...i'm sick of seeing this land in my inbox:
> 
> >Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> >
> >******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
> 
> can someone do something?  am i the only one getting this every time i post
> something?  i would think not...
> 
> love, luck, and lollipops,
> michael
> allroy
> 
> http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
> **************************************************************************
> "curtain call and then i walk.  curtain drops i stumble fall.
>  tripped by my material needs, i look out at the gawking creed.
>  silent whisper becomes a roar, i pick myself up off the floor,
>  and i was forced to bow down to a crowd laughing at me...."
>                                               -falling forward
> **************************************************************************

You aren't the only one. I get them too. Can something be done about 
this.
-- 
 
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                       trevor lamont
 
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	damn were kewl.  

On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Liquid PleAsurE... wrote:

> Hey all..I just wanted to tell all of us techno/dance/house music 
> listeners out there that I finally got the Hackers soundtrack....I know that
> in relation to the majority of *rave* music out there that this really
> fits into the house above all else...but...the main reason that I want
> to tell all of you that it is finally out is because after seeing this
> movie and listening to the !excellent! soundtrack I was sucked into the
> whole dance/underground/RaVe scene....and because of a really great kool 
> space kitty I wouldn't be involved with you guys....with the whole scene
> in the first place...so I guess that is a good enough reason to rant and 
> rave...right???:) anyway.....at least borrow it if you can't listen to it...
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  			    THat Was....:P
> 		
> 	   michael l. grimes.......liquid pleasure......liqplesr
> 		         *all rolled up into one*
> 
> 
>                       email:mlgrimes@indiana.edu             
>                       fax: 812-336-6987(notify ahead)/home:812-336-6987
> 	              home page:(on the way) 
>                       http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~mlgrimes/home.html
>                 
> 
> 

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Ok, I haven't heard of any net mets or anything for family affair II so since
this is my last party until september probably atleast (i'm going to europe and
need to save some money plus i will be broke when i get back)  I thought i
would set up a net tent.  These are my ideas:

1)  I would like to make name badges for everyone who would want one.  If you
would like one please send me some e-mail.  Have it include anything you want
on it,  your name, e-mail address, name on vrave ect.  any basically, just
don't make it too  long.    Then i will also make up a flyer that has all
that information on a piece of paper.  that way after you make some new
friends you will have their e-mail address and anything else.


2)  Maybe a lot of you won't like this idea, but i thought it would be cool
if a bunch of us good bring some goodies to share with others.  You know like
lollipops, cookies, brownies, cupcakes,  anything good like that.

3)  I'm not sure if there is open table, but if there isn't i would be
willing to bring my table and mixer and have open tables.  I would love to
hear fellow dj's that spin just for the love of it.  No attitudes or
anything, i don't care how good or bad you are.  if you enjoy spinning you
are welcome to spin on my tables.


Anyways i know it is kind of early but i am really excited for this event,
plus i am going to be busy around the 4th of july so i need to get going on
this if i am going to get this done.

I hope to hear from some of you.  Nothing makes a party better than being
with good people.  If you do send me mail, please put the topic in the
subject.  Such as name badges, or tables or food, ect.  that way i can try to
keep things somewhat organized.

If someone knows the address to the other regions, could you please forward
this to them.  It would be appreciate.

One more quick thing,  the person that did the badges for even further, could
you please e-mail me with some advice.  It would also be greatly apreciate.

Enough of my babbling, let's make this weekend a weekend to remember
--
Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

e-mail:  joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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OK. i am not gonna rehash my night since becky already wrote her review 
and gave a pretty accurate description of the night for ALL of us! =) so 
ill just comment on a few things and give my impressions of everything i 
guess... =) .... ok.... the vibe was absolute FANTASTIC! =) i got more of 
a feeling about what the old skewl parties were like that i heard becky 
and becca talk about on the way up to dayton. as a new-comer to the 
scene, i met a LOT of really kewl ppl (whom im not even going to attempt 
to name cos my memory is REALLY bad and i wil end up forgetting SOMEONE) 
who welcomed me with open arms into the midwest raver family... to 
everyone i met there (and at my few earlier parties) im sendin out a BIG 
thank-you hug n smooch! THANKS! =)

here's my quick review of some of the dj's... ben was awesome! i had 
never heard anything that he did before, so i was TOTALLY unprepared for 
the absolute NEED to dance that i felt while he was spinning! and as 
others said, dj allison and kell really cut it up! =) i hadnt heard kell 
before except from a tape that he played for me back in february, but i 
he and alison BOTH got me dancing when i thought exhaustion had taken 
over my body! 

VAPOURSPACE!... well there isnt a lot that i can say about mark gage that 
everyone else hasnt already said, so ill just tell you a story that may 
illustrate how MOVING his set was! =) after i had gotten home and crashed 
like all the other exhausted ppl at the party, i guess the phone rang and 
i answered it. it was my aunt wanting to talk to my mother about a family 
gathering. i have ABSOLUTELY NO recollection of this happening, but i 
suppose its true cos my aunt knew NOTHING about vapourspace or the party 
but she quoted me as saying in my unconcious and totally incoherent state 
as saying to her "you should have gone! vapourspace was awesome!" before 
i hung up the phone on her.... so as you can see, mark gage was so great 
that even in my unconcious dead sleep mode, he rocked my world! =)

ok... i think thats enough of my know-nothing opinions, but i thought 
that id just give my impressions of the party really quickly! =) thanks 
to everyone who had ANYTHING to do with the party for making it so great 
for me! =) -karla (kaykay)

p.s. becky> im still dirty and i took a scrubbrush to myself yesterday 
for over 2 hours! and as for the crap comin out of my nose, it seems like 
i must have spent the entire evening inside, cleaning a chimney or 
somethin.... ;)

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>--
>Love, Peace, and Lollipops
>
>dj joff

"...why the wack mc's are always bitin' my stlye...."

*shrug*

forever searching for a snappy closing,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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                                           -derrick carter
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ok so this party is gona happen. so how much are tickets gona be? like $40?



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You forgot about the people who not only dance, but become the music.  You
see them every once in awile.  You may even be one.  You can tell who they
are...eyes closed, hands moving through the air in a frenzy, movements
becoming liquid and finally, a body disapearing into sound and light.  Not
caring what they look like or whos watching them.  There are no dance
"moves" at this point, you just flow with the music.  It is a beautiful
sight. It is a beautiful feeling.  these people understand the concept of
trance-dance.  It can take you to places youve never dreamed possible.  With
the right music (sorry, house dont work) and the right atmosphere (Daft
Punk-Further) you can literally leave this place and time.  Space travel
does not require a rocket ship, just some good,deep techno or trance, a Dj
who knows whats up, and an open mind.  Take that trip, it is worth it.  It
is the true party experiance.<-----HION

p.s. drugs need not be included, but sometimes they open the mind a little
wider.  :)


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that thing wit the orb and orbital... when and wher is it going to be...

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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Actually, I didn't forget them... They are the reason I posted in the first
place.  I'm always talking about how those people are the model to follow.
How through union with sound they speak the language of matter and
substance instead of the intellectual constructs our brains insist on
turning over and over.  I've always pushed dance as the first and most
primal language.  The fact is, that I never understood the other dancers
before.  The people who weren't dancing that way.

After VapourSpace finished and Allison finally started up, I watched my
friend Timmy dancing up in front of her.  Timmy is that person I seem to
always see when I'm dancing.  I open my eyes and kind of slowly glance
around for a second and there is Timmy... smiling... :)  He IS music... oh
and PJ, his roomate, too (though I see less of PJ than Timmy).  What caught
my attention was the other people the people who are doing the things that
I usually don't pay much attention to.

As for House music.... I won't say much because I'm getting sick of this
petty bickering, but I have a lot of respect for house.  Granted there are
as many completely stupid and boring house records as anything else out
there, but when you finally see a Dj like Derrick Carter or Cyberjive or
Terry Mullan (when he's well rested and in a good mood) you'll think twice
about dogging house.  I've had more transcendant experiences with House
than almost anything else...  It DOES HAPPEN WITH HOUSE.  House is just a
LOT more physical than trance... People who aren't too comfortable with
moving their bodies seem to not like house too much (personal observation
not a scientific fact).  I see Timmy more during house sets than anything
else... Please lets not start this silly "such and such music can't do this
and such and such music can't do that" argument again... If you dance to
enough music and listen to enough music you start to realize that all music
is capapble of doing the same stuff... It's like Hot Peppers... they are
all hot! some are hotter than others and they all have different flavors.
Personally I hate Jalopenos because they taste bitter but I know people who
eat them right out of the jar.  Some people look at me strangely becaus I
eat Habaneros... hey they taste really good... What I'm trying to say,
again, is that not everyone has the same taste and by saying some music
can't do this or some music is that, you are just trying to start an
argument becuase someone is gonna disagree.

OK so I said a little bit more than I thought I would... Basically you're
right about dancing beyond the physical universe, but it is not the only
valid thing to do...       Everything has its own place in the grand scheme
of things and while you can admire one thing you shouldn't discredit
another because you don't understand it.  Both music and dancing.  Since
you're talking about expanding your mind and leaving time and space behind
maybe you should also focus on leaving your preconceptions behind as
well... I find that preconceptions are a greater prison than either time or
space... I can escape those at will but preconceptions are hard to break.

With Utmost respect to the ever present opposition,


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Dj Kell                                           Sound- 606.268.9843
Lexington, Kentucky                       Alpha-Numeric- kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu
Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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who all went to the star children's party on thursday the 13th 
in madison?  great party, i thought.  kee kicked my ass!  and
that guy who was scratching kicked my ass too!  :P  mindrive 
was really good... and so was peterbilt!  great nite!!  the vibe 
was wonderful at this event.. lots of smiles and dancing!  and 
i've never ended a nite by sitting on the front steps and 
staring at the sky and the trees for twenty minutes just 
because the weather was so wonderful... i wish the weather was 
always like this!  =)  the only problems with the nite was the 
heat factor.... but i guess they're getting lots of fans in 
there for the next one, so don't shy off over that!  the star 
children seem to be really true to the roots of the scene and 
they sure know how to throw a party, even with just locals!  
i was hoping to talk to this girl who was dancing and smiling 
like mad, but i just missed her <partially due to my shyness :P>
... she was wearing a hypercolor shirt which was half green 
and half blue, big blue jeans, and shiny black shoes... she was 
grinning like a maniac and smiling and duh i'm redundant!... 
she had brownish hair.  she was talking to the guy in the yellow 
shirt <who was all over the dancefloor> for a couple of minutes... 
anyhow, if anyone has any info for me or if she's on here, please 
email me!  thanx!
 
jon.
 
p.s.... the star children's line said they were throwing 
events every thursday and friday <unless it clashed with a 
friday party>, i'm sure the price will be quite cheap <this 
one was $5>, i think that their parties will be at the same 
great location, and i encourage you all to go to the next star 
children event!  the info line is (608) 258-0098.  continue to 
support the real scene!
 
p.p.s.... i called the star line yesterday <6.15> and their 
event for next thursday features:
 
Traxx
Adeptus
DJ Chris
<and i forgot the other dj who's there, but someone else!>
 
GREAT lineup....... hopefully i'll make it there but i have to 
work on friday morning...... we'll see how it goes...... 
anyone have any suggestions for me?  i'm sure that many of you 
out there have gone to a party and had to work the next day... 
any tips on how to get through the next day?  later!
 
still jon.


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I'm kinda pissed that I missed CHARM.  (Is this a Cat in the Hat
book?!?!?)  Sounds like I saved myself some cleaning, though ;-).

I was too busy looking at severed moose and deer heads hanging on the
wall at a bar in Louisville.  Later, I was sitting in some dude's
apartment trying to get interested in a copy of Wine Enthusiast (or
whatever it's called), while bongs, Budweisers and people wondering
who the hell I was, passed back and forth in front of me.  I think the
guy having the party was wondering who invited me.  I was thinking, "I
didn't want to be here anyway!  I should be in Dayton" and "it's only
2AM, maybe I can make it up to Dayton in 3 hours..."  I guess it was
not meant to be...  Waaahhh... :-(

But anyway, that which does not kill us only makes us stronger.

Or something...

Thanks out to Kell for the interesting post on ritual dance.

I've been thinking a little about the concept of ritual dance lately
as well.  Not any deep thinking, mind you.  Just ideas.  Also my
musings later in this post deviate from his topic of "ritual vs. new
dance", so this is not really a response to his post, just rambling...

It's kind of exciting since I'm new to the scene and (so far) don't
have a lot of preconceived ideas about rave dancing and music.  I
always find it a shame when I realize I know "too much" about
something to be able to see it like a child.  For example, I wonder
how I thought beer was made before I started homebrewing.  Or what I
thought a "rave" was before I ever went to one...  In gaining
knowledge, it seems like you lose something.  Sad...

I remember the first time I went to a ~rave/party.  I was amazed at
how some of the kids moved.  At the time, I thought I'd never get my
body to do anything like that (probably still couldn't ;-) Their
dancing was probably ordinary to someone who'd been to parties before,
but to me...  it was extraordinary.  I sometimes try to visualize the
different ways people were dancing.  Sometimes I even try to do those
moves in the privacy of my apartment.  Rarely do I succeed.  The
closest I come is at a party after about a half-hour of my warm-up
style of dancing -- when I've stopped thinking, stopped worrying.

Lately, however, I've been wondering whether I should even be trying
to emulate those rave kids' form of dancing.  Isn't it about being
yourself?  Being an individual?  A non-conformist?  Maybe.  Sometimes
I look at kids dancing in a way other than the normal "moves" and
think, "what the hell is he/she doing?"  "Man, they can't dance!"  But
then I realize that it's a GOOD thing.  They're being different, and
not afraid.  (Or maybe they're just on drugs ;-) At a recent House
Party at a club here in Lexington, there were these two girls dancing
in a kind of unusual way.  Sort of robotic/skeletal is the best way I
can think of describing it.  I was mesmerized.  As far as doing
accepted "moves", they couldn't dance.  But in terms of what dancing
is probably really about, they were awesome...  I'll sound like some
Taoist master if I say that there's a place for both types of dancing:
ritual accepted moves, and something noones' seen before.  Hell,
everything's probably been done before anyway -- in some other
culture's dance.  Who knows.  Maybe not.  I'm rambling.  Somebody stop
me. :-)

Moving along, I have to say that I like the "ritual of dance" because
it's the best vehicle I've found so far for breaking down the
structure of logic and culture I build all day long.  I went to the
dentist the other day and just making conversation (while he had his
hands and tools in my mouth, of course) he asked me if I exercised
regularly.  I said, "kind of".  Then he asked what I did.  I turned
red, a little embarassed, but finally admitted "by dancing".  I
realized I was embarassed about dancing.  Guys, especially types like
me, don't dance...  But at the same time, I was happy to get it out,
to fess up to a side of me that doesn't obey logic, isn't painfully
serious, does something for no "good" reason.

Why dance?  Because you are alive!  You are an animal.  You are part
of a tribe.  You dance.  Any more, I've gotten to where I don't even
think about it. (With the exception of isolated fits of analysis).  I
find this to be good.  Supposedly humans evolved in small settlements.
Maybe this "isolation in a crowd" that city life brings is not
healthy.  Perhaps dance can help.

Ever see children dancing around for no reason?  That's how I want to
be.  I want to see like a child.  Lately, I've been wondering if
there's any advantage at all to "grown-up" culture.  In the corporate,
economic, political world the answer is "of course".  In the spiritual
world, I haven't found any yet.  Dance is a good spiritual ritual.  By
"spiritual", I mean exploring the world outside of normal cultural
concepts, not really anything "religious".

Well, anyway, I think I've lost any train of thought I might have had.
I'll now respectfully shut up!  Take care, everyone.

- Patrick

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V (five) - The Revelation Tour
July 5th, 6th, & 7th
St Louis, MO

Underground Resistance, featuring Rolando and James Pennington
Mike Dearborn - DJAX Records, Chicago
Skull - DJAX Records, Chicago
Hyperactive - Contact Records, Chicago
David Hollands - Minimal Wage, Satellite Records, NYC
Goodwill - God's House, INCE., Zenith Productions, Delaware
Trevor Lamont - Erotic World, BAM, Zenith Productions, Lexington
Tommie Sunshine - Satellite Records, Xylophone Jones, Atlanta
Minddrive - Erotishock, Madison
EFEX - Hard Trance Guru, Chicago
Delta 9 - Industrial Strength
Tripper Information Systems - Chicago
Traxx - Liquid Sky, Teamsters, Chicago
Justin Long - Liquid Sky, Teamsters, Chicago
Halo - Teamsters, Chicago
Damian - Source Productions, Chicago
Astroboy - St Louis
Jeff Feller - Deep Grooves, St Louis
Devil Girl - Connect, House of Musique, St Louis
Phyzik - Connect, House of Musique, St Louis
Richard Devine - Six Sixty Six, Connect, Atlanta
CJ Peak - House of Musique, New Jersey
Rachel - House of Musique, Philly
Cylert - Illuminators, Connect, Vybrations, St Louis
Audio Transit - Tweak N Peak, Nashville
Monochrome - Fuzzy Logic, Columbus
Doughboy - Elemental, Columbus
Andromeda - Elemental , Columbus
Kingsize - Jungle Sky, Suburban Bass, Columbus
Ed Luna - Elemental, Columbus
Arash - Illuminators, Dayton
Kell - Anomoly, Lexington
Wilhelm K - Indiana
Jedidiah - Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee
Gank - Spawntaneous, Cleveland
Mark Verbos - Solid State Recordings, Milwaukee
Phantom 45 - Chicago
Snuggles & Slak - Chicago
Phil Free Art - Chicago
Dino - Deep House Cat, St Louis
The Professor - Feel It, BAM, St Louis
Express - Zenith Productions, St Louis
Nitro - Dialeighted, St Louis
Marc Buxton - Deep Grooves, St Louis
Matt Brendle - Hard Mutha, St Louis
Jeremy Reese - St Louis
Glitch - St Louis
Tre - St Louis
Kazu - St Louis
Midwest Avengers - St Louis Hip-Hop

*PHEW*...This is an outdoor event, so prepare yourself and pace 
yourself;
know when to chill.  Rain, shine, or heat wave, this event will go off.
Bring common sense, a good attitude, and respect.  Please leave weapons,
negativity, and glass bottles at home.  Concessions will be available 
for
your convenience.

$20 Advance Tickets available at Deep Grooves (314) 726-0300
$22 Day of Event, discount with canned food

Info Lines - Connect Records (314) 995-8653
             Vybrations      (314) 995-2660

This post was typed by Ben (D.J. Cylert)

-- 
 
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
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Or call my agent at 615-298-1883 (BAM Management)
 
 House is a feeling!!!     I love that feeling!!!     It's for love!!!
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Hey kids!  Well, here's the skinny - bluntly.  I'm looking for a ride to
Destiny 15 in Toronto, Ontario.  I understand that there is a small
caravan going up for this 3 day mind-bender in July (12-14).  I really
would like to hook up with someone to get a lift.

Is anyone going?  For anyone not in "the know" - here's the lineup as
posted on the Destiny web site at http://www.nkaos.com/destiny/:

			DESTINY 15
	  Second Annual World Trance Festival
     Friday, Saturday, Sunday July 12th-14th, 1996
		   Toronto, Ontario, Canada
		   Info @ 416.631.8821


          LIVE PA's:

       FROM LONDON UK:

Juno Reactor (Blue Room and Tip recordings) 
Billabong (NU recordings) 
The Dentist (Boscaland, PhoenixRising and more...) 

        FROM CANADA: 

USOH (Polarity records) 
The Alliance (Polarity, Quality records) 
Chameleon (Dope Musik)


          IMPORTS:

        FROM THE UK:

	   M-Zone 
(Doncaster Wharehouse, Boscaland records)

	Rachel Aubern 
(Founding member of The Candy Girls, React Records)

	Andrew Blake 
(Resident at Trade London's #1 techno night)

	   Mark EG 
(Techno editor for Eternity Magazine and seen everywhere!)

	   Madam Zu 
(Resident at Cornwall's Verve club and hard house veteran)

	  Mike Maguire
(Founding member of Juno Reactor spinning only the finesti Goa)

	Chris Liberator 
(Megadog recordings, veteran UK traveller)

       FROM THE USA:

        Dave Trance
   (Smile records, NYC)
                   
      Jordan Vesteyo
 (Adrenalin Records, NYC)
 
     Christopher Lawrence
     (Universal Radio, LA)
     
      James Scott (NYC)

         FROM ITALY:

        Andrea Romani
(SVR Records, Resident at Palermo's Red Zone)


	RESIDENTS:

Eryk S.		Tim Patrick		OS/2
Ashley		Dr. Trance		Dominik
Mr. Nivoc	Kofi			Ambient C
Jeff Haynes	Koala			Citrus
Andy Roberts	Quest			Hartec
Cyber G		Mark Oliver		Goldfingrr
Peter Ivals	Viper			Terry Kelly
Jaybird		Matt C			S.O.S
D-Funk-E-1	Grimace			John E
Sunrise		James St.Bass

	AMBIENT / Funky Breaks / Experimental

Echo		Shine		Digital
Algorhythm & Troll	Kresh
Sniper		Gerald Belanger	   Jarkko
Mystical Influence	Ludikris
Alchemist		Floe

Tickets for this eent are $40 in Advance and $50 at the gate for a 3-day
pass.  Stay tuned for ticket discount pricing and other package pricing.
For ticket outlets in and around Toronto, call the infoline @ 416.631.8821

The location for this event will be released on the infoline July 11th,
1996.



*NOTE*  I think right now the ticket prices are $30 until the end of the
month.  If there is enough interest - I'll ask the guy I know in Destiny
about a discount package for us..

Let me know!

	Peace, love, and transient dreams...

		tom


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 17 19:36:31 1996
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Hello all, i just got back from my friends that throw the parties tuesday night
in East Lansing and they asked me to post this information.

To avoid conflicts with people that want to spin, they ask that you please show
up somewhat early, about 9pm.  Spinning times will for the most part be done on
a first come first serve basis.  If you are coming in from out of town and
would not be able to make it in that early they ask that you call Fival
(pernounced like fival the mouse).  This is his work number, he will be there
between 4 and 8 pm  517-337-1221.  the name of the place is Scavenger Hunt.
By the way, it is a really phat second hand store so if you are ever in the
area, stop by.


OK, from some basic shit:  the address is 234 Beal St.  the phone number is
517-351-3150.  No one will be there until 8pm so don't bother calling before
than, call Fival at work if you need to get some information.  If you need
basic info like directions or something like that, you can drop me some
e-mail, i check it frequently.

Anyways we hope to see a lot of you there,  these parties are a lot of fun,
and free.  Yes you get to listen to some really good dj's for absoulty free.
Just come with a good vibe and leave all bad attitudes at home.  These people
go through a lot of trouble for these parties, so let's try to make it as
enjoyable as it can be.   Hope to see ya there,  say hi to me if you come.
I'm the guy with the bleached top hair and traqus ring, and wearing green
adidas shoes.

-- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

e-mail:  joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 17 20:51:11 1996
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For Mr. Smack and others...

Organic '96 will be June 22 in Southern California. Good luck getting
there in time! I'm sure there's more information on the SoCal-Raves
calendar & mailing list...

Tix are $33 (I think that's presale, not sure about at the door).

-Gage

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Wow, I just read your post, and being a fellow Canadian, I was interested 
in supporting my Toronto scene, but...$30 $40 $50 ???!!! ACK! I thought 
$20 was expensive!  Hmm...I wonder why it's so high priced...that's not 
good... :(   Man, everything in Canada is so jacked up - damn you Jean 
Cretien!!
Cynthia
http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~glowstik

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JESUS....if anyone is even thinking about going out for Organic....I'm just
gonna tell you as simply as possible.  GO!   I don't know if others know the
line up that at all..but I got a flyer from one of my friends out there.  

ORB (speaks for itself)
ORBITAL (same)
MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO(same)
UNDERWOLD(same)
DJ TRANCE(hello..do I need to bother?)
DANIEL(damn good danny boy)
THEE-O (he rocks the house)
ELI STAR (he's a kick ass local LA dj...good stuff)
LOOP GURU   (>from this on down I don't know but tid bits of info so I can't
speak from
ALIEN TOM      >personal experience for all of them but they truly are
good..just not big BRIAN             >time names or nothn)
STEVE PAGAN
JOHN KELLEY
RON D.CORE
FESTER
R.A.W.
MOJO
JOSH SWISSMAN
HERETIC
RAYMOND ROKER
CURIOUS
and this is just to name a few.......
It's gonna be at a ski resort in the San Bernardino MNTS..which by itself is
already incredible.  Just to say something about the EVENTS out there..they
NEVER EVER disappoint.  Never. Music wise, vibe wise or experience wise.
 Please go so you can tell the rest of us all about it...pointedly me.  
enough outta my mouth.  Just wanted to pass along the info about that event.
 In any case take care to everyone.  Laterz
Peace out
Allyson

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Hey to all you people:
Just wanted to pass along something I read today.  I was sitting around
reading my parents' MONEY magazine (cuz you know I'm corporate like that) and
saw that the issue was about the best place to live in America.  And guess
where it was?
Props to you guys in MadTown, WI cause according to that magazine..that's the
NUMBER 1 place to live in the US in the year of 1996.  Lucky asses.  From
what I read on this thing, you guys seem to have it all.  Great parties,
amazing vibes and now it seems as if the corporate world is eating you guys
up too. Good job.  In any case...just thought you guys might like that little
bit of random thought.  Laterz
Peace out
Allyson

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 17 22:01:26 1996
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all of us here in Toronto are simply estatic about the upcoming Destiny 15...

hope to see some of you there

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Hey folx; I'm a budding mad city raver with some info & observations for yuz 
about the Milk & Cheese and the Star Children.

Milk & Cheese was one of the phattest parties in this area for a while... 
good djs, nice price, great vibe; a bit hot, but I like it that way  ]:}   
Peterbilt had a groove going; he threw down some remix of "Smooth Operator," 
and it fit perfectly.  Another surprise came when a DJ who was just there to 
party went up unannounced and did some mad scratching.  The highlight of the 
night for me tho was Mindrive; for the last 40 minutes or so of the night, I 
put on some shades, went up to about three feet from the speakers, and just 
got down 'till the music stopped, absorbing the lights through my glasses 
but otherwise sensing nothing but the music.  That was a pretty stunning 
experience for me- one that I hope to repeat at their next party this 
Thursday.  Major props to the Star Children for a super job.

Oh yeah, the info:  I talked to some of the Star Children and they seemed 
like a bunch 'o' good, frequent promoters (from Appleton, but we'll forgive 
'em for that), who are holding the series that Milk & Cheese kicked off 
every week (either Friday or Thursday depending on whether there's another 
big party going down on the Friday) for five duckats each as a fundraiser 
for their next big event, which will be Respect on August 3.  Nice, 
community-minded young gent that I am, I'll give ya the info about it 
without even being asked:

On Aughust 3rd, 1996, the Star Children give you...

                 RESPECT
___________________________________________________
Paul Johnson <Casual/Relief Records - Chi>
Feelgood <Feelgood Music - Baltimore>
L.L. Bishop <Soul Flower/Rampant Records - Denver>
John Keesen <Soul Flower Records - Denver>
Mindrive <Erotishock - Madison>
E-Tones <Communique Records - Denver>
Peterbilt <Erotishock - Madison>
Lil Cee <Hip Housin' - Madison>
___________________________________________________
Star Lines:  608.258.0098     312.609.1676
              Madison           Chicago

That should be dope!  ...this is all taken from the pre-flyer, so some of it 
may be a little off; if no one else does, I'll post when more info becomes 
avaliable. Until then, definitely show up for the small ones- it's worth it!


Incidentally, about the MEGALITH crap, it's just that- crap.  Anyone that 
hasn't figgered that out yet has been rollin' just a little teensy bit too 
much ;)

Peace
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 17 23:40:03 1996
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>I remember the first time I went to a ~rave/party.  I was amazed at
>how some of the kids moved. 
 Sometimes I even try to do those
>moves in the privacy of my apartment.  Rarely do I succeed.  The
>closest I come is at a party after about a half-hour of my warm-up
>style of dancing -- when I've stopped thinking, stopped worrying.

The best thing to do is just do something totally goofy and fun and start
laughing about it with your friends.   Go way over the top.    Then settle
in to just flopping your body about.    Every one always thinks that
everyone is watching them when they dance.     My friend Sean has the
weirdest dance in the world.   Honestly, no-one looks stranger than his
orgiastic (looks like he's going to pass out actually) flop.     There
should be no limits on a dance floor, especialy at a rave.      If you
think people are being sensitive at you, flop more fiercly.
David Byrne said that people in a true state of fun-ecstacy look really
stupid.   This was over footage of some african dancing that did look
pretty odd.
I was at a party with some friends.    Woody was spinning, Stillwater
ballroom.  Can't remember the name.    This friend was having emotional
loops that she couldn't get out of (also on E).    I got her to dance and
then explained to her that her brain was a big electro-chemical muscle.   
In order to properly refresh it and excercise it, she had to move it about
just like she was moving her body.   It had to groove.    Which means all
the verbal thought patterns have to go.       The soul is very limited by
verbal thought.    Let it fill up with abstract patterns and do the hokey
pokey.


>
>Lately, however, I've been wondering whether I should even be trying
>to emulate those rave kids' form of dancing.  Isn't it about being
>yourself?  Being an individual?  A non-conformist?
No, its about moving your booty to the bass.


>Ever see children dancing around for no reason?  That's how I want to
>be.  I want to see like a child.  Lately, I've been wondering if
>there's any advantage at all to "grown-up" culture. 
As I get older and am given the respect of a fully grown adult, I realize
that most of these adults are really dumb and have just copped a stance
that they know what is going on.    I'm not talking about the obviously
dumb adults, I'm talking about the respectable authority figures that
really seem to know what is happening.   On the other hand, the kids don't
know what's going on and are fueled by kid energy so they break over the
walls and have more of a chance of getting it right.   Breifly.  Then they
get old and lock onto whatever they were into when they were mid-20s and
they start to suck.    Don't trust anyone over 0.  Don't trust your self.


 In the corporate,
>economic, political world the answer is "of course".  In the spiritual
>world, I haven't found any yet.  Dance is a good spiritual ritual.  By
>"spiritual", I mean exploring the world outside of normal cultural
>concepts, not really anything "religious".
>
>Well, anyway, I think I've lost any train of thought I might have had.
>I'll now respectfully shut up!  Take care, everyone.
Well you can cut the self-deprecating crap.    I enjoy thoughts like yours
:)  I understand why we don't have mw-raves archived.     ie.  if you do a
search for your name you will come up with all these posts about how fucked
up you were at such and such a party !!!!     
Still, it would be nice to have all the poetical and over the top
idealistic mystical crap that we spew on a server somewhere with hypertext.
    Some asshole in california would probably rip it all off and make a
coffee table book out of it in 2010 and sell it to you guys.


>
>- Patrick

  Over and Out.

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>... Please lets not start this silly "such and such music can't do this
>and such and such music can't do that" argument again... 

You know I just can't figure out how to dance to rock music.    But I used
to not be able to dance to a lot of techno.   I just figured it was brain
music and for people that didn't want to get into the lower chakra booty
action.   Now I'm kind of into bouncing around to whatever bpm, but all the
various strains of techno seem kind of limited still.   I still can't dance
to rock.


>OK so I said a little bit more than I thought I would... Basically you're
>right about dancing beyond the physical universe, but it is not the only
>valid thing to do...     
Cool thought.

  Everything has its own place in the grand scheme
>of things and while you can admire one thing you shouldn't discredit
>another because you don't understand it.  Both music and dancing.  Since
>you're talking about expanding your mind and leaving time and space behind
>maybe you should also focus on leaving your preconceptions behind as
>well...
"move your ass and your mind will follow"    p-funk, slightly misquoted.

 I find that preconceptions are a greater prison than either time or
>space... I can escape those at will but preconceptions are hard to break.
Shut off verbal thought first and observe what happens....


  Over and Out.

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A few yeaars ago, Cincinnati was the number one place to live.... Whateveeer!
This city sucks!! No parties unless they're thrown by this dorky guy, and blah
blah blah... okay, Off with me and my tired self to work...

-Becky =)


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Chris Sattinger <satti002@maroon.tc.umn.edu>

: Now I'm kind of into bouncing around to whatever bpm, but all the
:various strains of techno seem kind of limited still.   I still can't
dance
:to rock.

I wish I could remember which album it was (something
I bought _years_ ago), but the last line of the liner notes
was "Don't rock -- wobble."  Words to live by, or
something.

  -d.w.

on now: some of that minimal, energy-free techno



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On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Cynthia ** wrote:

> Wow, I just read your post, and being a fellow Canadian, I was interested 
> in supporting my Toronto scene, but...$30 $40 $50 ???!!! ACK! I thought 
> $20 was expensive!  Hmm...I wonder why it's so high priced...that's not 
> good... :(   Man, everything in Canada is so jacked up - damn you Jean 
> Cretien!!

Heh.. yeah.  I agree that some prices get rather steap - it started at $20
but I've since missed that deadline.  But again - if there are enough of
us going, perhaps we can get a package deal.

Anyhow, figure that $20 US = approx $27 Cdn... so it's not too far off.

Peace!

	tom


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From: Ed Jones <ejones@sdl.psych.wright.edu>
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On Tue, 18 Jun 1996 THOMASRA@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu wrote:

> A few yeaars ago, Cincinnati was the number one place to live.... Whateveeer!
> This city sucks!! No parties unless they're thrown by this dorky guy, and blah
> blah blah... okay, Off with me and my tired self to work...

Ya, what she said! Not to mention the filth and decay. Or the way those people
STRIVE to hate people for their politics, race, or sexual preferences. Not
unlike Denver, they even go outa their way to be assholes to homosexuals
by a public referendum removing the protection of certain rights that
the rest of the "Good Ole Boys (and girls)" enjoy. I dare say, Cincy is
WORSE than detroit in a lot of ways. Don't the KKK even march on the damn
Courthouse Square and erect a Cross every Christmas??  But....

Some good things:  Becky, Becca, Italia, Jaguar, Nevar, KayKay, etc, etc...
                   Clubhead Records!
                   Burbanks Real Bar-B-Q  (ya, I like ribs)

Ed/Cuisinart

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> underground peace society presents:

> INFO AND SUPPORT FROM:

> BALTIMORE
>         active ingred.  410.276.5967

This number is not right!!! It used to be (about a year and a half ago).
Our new number is 410.347.1402.

Any promoters can use our line for Baltimore promotion--- as long as you 
get in touch with us first.

I've taken up enough of everyone's valuable time now-- so back to your 
regularly scheduled lives <now in progress>.

 DJ Bliss
Activated Magazine/
Active Ingredients Productions
Baltimore, MD
activ@mindspring.com

*****the only journey is the one within--- Rainer Maria Rilke*****

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		A  D  R  E  N  A  L  I  N     R  E  C  O  R  D  S

			   R  E  L  E  A  S  E  S


JUNE:


	o   Electro Phunk Vol. 1 - New school Electro 
		Continuously Mixed by DJ HARDWARE & DJ SHARPe
			Tracks:
			
			611 grooves - "I Like It"
			RAC - "Double Jointed"
			RAC - "Quexos"
			Stem - "Radiotron"
			OSC - "Return Of the Great"
			Sem - "Phox"
			Uberzone - "Synthetik"
			Africa Bambaata & The Soulsonic Force -
				"Don't Stop The Planet Rock"
				  (Classic Mix by Electrik Music)
			The Techfunkers - "Don't Stop"
			Anoesis - "Heavy Water"

JULY:
	
	o  TRIP-HOP ACID PHUNK VOL. 3 : The Hard Edition
		Continuously Mixed by DJ HARDWARE

			Track List:
		 
 Thursday Club - "A Place Called Acid"
 Cotten Club - "Here the Drummer"  
 Chris & James - "Calm Down" (kingsize Remix)
 DJ Voodoo & The Liquid Method -"Everyone Thinks I'm High and I Am"   
 The Wizard Of OH - "Terminal Intensity"
 Uberzone - "Botz" (Organik Mix)
 DJ Voodoo & The Liquid Method - "Slam"
 The Wizard Of OH - "Off To The Dimention X"
 The Crystal Method - "Keep Hope Alive"
 Mystery Men - "Stomp Ya Feet"


		o BEAT GENERATOR : Progressive Hardhouse
			Continuously Mixed By DJ HARDWARE

			Track Lists:

	Baktun 13 - "Tribe"
	Markus Shultz - "Engine Engine #9"
	Brooks - "Jet"
	DJ Lace - "Take Me Higher"
	Love Science - "Loose Control"
	Scotti Deep - "Brooklyn Beats"
	Two Obsessed - "Together"
	D&T  - "Up & Down"
	Top Kat - "Feel Cool"
	Night Tripper - "Tone Exploitation" (Rabbit in the Moon Remix)



July 12" SINGLE RELEASES:
	
	o The Tweakers - "All Tweaked Out"
		Written, Produced and mixed by DJ HARDWARE & DJ REMIX
			Remixes BY:
			   DJ Voodoo & DJ Donavan for Black Magic Prod.
			   Stryke 

	o Stryke - "Acid Music"
		Written, Produced and Mixed by Stryke
			Remixed by:
				The Tweakers
				Kelly D
				Plus Others..........


AUGUST:


		o ADRENALIN RUSH : The Trance Acid Experience Vol.1
				In The Mix With MICRO, NYC
			
		Track Lists:
			Micro & Viscious Vic - "Impact" (Pure Mix)
			The Stickmen - "The Shaker"
			RE 2 Or 1 - "ESUOH" (Simons Come Unity Mix)
			Paradise 30001 - "Long Distance Call To Heaven"
						(Progression Remix)
			Kimbal / Dekkard - "Starlife"
			Pendulum - "I Need You" (Mindwarp Remix)
			M.B.Ant - "First Session"
			The Five Magic Beans -"Time Bomb"(Josh Wink Remix)
			Baby Doc & The Dentist - "Mantra"(Hardfloor Remix)
			Brainvibe II - "It's Hot" (Whippenberg Mix)
			


	o ADRENALIN HARDCORE RUSH VOL.2 : PURE HARDCORE GABBER OVERLOAD
		Continuously Mixed By DJ HARDWARE
			
			Track Lists:
			
			DJ Alex - "Say What"
			DJ OH OH Omar Santana - "Boy Is Banging"
			The New York Terrorist - "Slamma Jamma"
			Predator Vs. Wedlock - "Get Down
			Wedlock - "Ruffneck(Sound of the Drum & The Bass)
			Carjacker - "Time To Motivate"
			El Bruto - "Are You Down"
			The New York Connection - "Ain't it Wild"
			Stingray & Sonicdriver - "Power of Darkness"
			Source Code - "Dawn of Terror"
			Insane - "Kiss My Ass"
			



AUGUST 12" RELEASES:

			o Cotten Club - "Here The Drummer" (US Remixes)
				Written, Produced & Mixed By Cotten Club
				Remixes:
					To Be Announced.........

			o Plastix - "Brr Babba" (US Remixes)
				Written, Produced & Mixed By Plastix
				Remixes:
					To Be Announced............






	M  U  S  I  C     W  I  T  H     A      R   U   S   H  


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 08:32:15 1996
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From: Steve White <steve@alpha.net>
To: Midwest Raves <mw-raves@hyperreal.com>
Subject: KANSAS!  Klash of the Titans III June 22nd (fwd)
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Someone sent this to me.  Sorry for it being so late, but I thought since 
I hadn't heard anything about it I should pass it along.  Too bad about 
it being the same night as Megalith, eh?


- stevenJ

____________________________________________________________________
		      KANSAS!  Klash of the Titans II

        Soopa Massiv (we make massive look small) Promotions presents
                                   ----
           R A V E  O F  T H E  U N I V E R S A L  T I T A N S II
                    the dj battle to destroy the world

                 Featuring Planet Earth's 80 Hottest Djs      
                 ======================================== 
                        Derrick May vs Derrick May
                   Kevin Saunderson vs Juan Atkins
                             Adam X vs Micro
                              Garth vs Jeno
                     Derrick Carter vs Dub Tribe
                         Carl Craig vs Claude Young
                              Sasha vs Kimball Collins
                               Moby vs (to be determined) 
                       Bagga Donuts vs Sleepy C
                       Terry Mullan vs Mark Farina
                         Dan Curtin vs Richie Hawtin
                     John Acquaviva vs Mark Gage
                                Sho vs David Hollands
                           Jedidiah vs Jethrox 
                    Leigh DevilGirl vs Miss DJAX
                          Tim Baker vs Matt Macqueen
                          dieselBoy vs Bob-A-Dob
                               fEEd vs DAC
                              Sines vs Himadri 
                             Marcus vs Kevy Kev
                             DJ Bit vs Redshift 
                     Alex Patterson vs Thrash 
                  Andrew Weatherall vs David Holmes
                     The Hardkisses vs themselves
                         Doc Marten vs DJ Duke
                               Wink vs Nigel
                       Joey Beltram vs Damon Wild
                      Nicky Fingers vs Phuture
                         Jeff Mills vs Mad Mike
                               Hype vs MC Rhyme Tyme
                      Basic Channel vs Drexciya
                          Black Dog vs Plaid
                          808 State vs Gerald Simpson
                   Mixmaster Morris vs Brian Eno 
                       Jack Dangers vs J. Saul Kane
                       Pete Namlook vs Bill Laswell
                    Terry Thaemlitz vs Tetsu Inoue
                        Robert Hood vs Mike Huckaby
                        Jon Drukman vs God
                 Jumping Jack Frost vs Trace


                              FREE FOR ALL
                              ------------
                         The Submerge Collective


                          TRIPLE GRUDGE MATCH!
                         THE BATTLE FOR THE NAME
                         -----------------------
                   The Orb vs Orbital vs William Orbit


                              GLOBAL TREATS 
                              =============

                            Performing L*I*V*E

                            ------------------ 
                                Aphex Twin
                                 Autechre
                               2 Unlimited
                                Black Dog
                                Plastikman
                               Vapourspace
                                 Orbital
                                Midi Rain
                            Meat Beat Manifesto
                               Culture Beat
                               Lords of Acid
                            ------------------

 
                                  ----
      THIS THREE WEEK CONTINUOUS HARDCORE RAVE WILL IGNITE THE GALAXY WITH 
          OVER 10 BILLION BOOMING KILOWATTS OF BODY DISSIPATING SOUND         
                                      and
       OVER ONE MILLION 500 MEGAWATT SUN-SHREDDING SIGHT-REMOVING LASERS

                          featuring for the first time
        THE HARNESSING OF THE EARTH'S CORE AS THE ULTIMATE BASS MAGNET
                   guaranteed to split the planet in half !!!!
                      and to throw the moon out of orbit !!!

         WE WILL BRING GOD DOWN TO EARTH AND SHAKE HIS ASS WITH BASS

                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
           !Weekend Ambient Meltdown Featuring the FAX Collective!
                           courtesy of Pete Namlook

                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

   This apocalyptic celebration begins June 22nd in the vast region known as
                                 KANSAS USA
                                     --- 
      KANSAS CITY WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE WORLDS BIGGEST MOON BOUCE
                           bring your socks and water

                          ++*++ Admission is Free ++*++

                     smart drinks by nutrient cafe wholesale
         toys and goodies by kenner/fisher price/virtual labs/amiga/roland
                      phresh scented air by glade
                         promotional clothing by rEact
                cyberpunk flavor by future culture/water tank 
                     equipment courtesy of digital druid    
                  human unity network by hyperreal.com staff
                         groove and soul by god inc.
        opinions by karen silkwoods car/desi the three armed wonder comic
                          spoken word by james word
                       flier by alex pace productions 

           THREE WEEK FINALE ENDS WHEN THE EARTH PLUMMETS INTO THE SUN
              AT THE FINAL HOUR THE EARTH BECOMES A HUGE GYROSCOPE
                            hold onto your seats

                        ---only for the suicidal---
                        -life : you know the score-

                    CALL FOR MORE INFO : 1-800-DEACTIV
                                         1-800-SOUOPER
                                         1-800-THERAVE
                                         1-800-1KANSAS

                  (((( THIS IS THE REAL MUTHA FUCKA ))))



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Forwarded message:
From daggan@freq.se  Tue Jun 18 05:43:03 1996
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Beverage Records NEWS flash>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

OUT NOW >>>>
Obconic     - Phlox (CD-album)
Obconic     - No Zero Crossings (CD & 12 inch vinyl single)
              Featuring remixes by Higher intelligence Agency & Scanner
Descendence - Nicotine (12 inch vinyl only)

COMING SOON >>>>
Illuminum   - The Lightstalker EP (4-track 12 inch vinyl)

Our WEB-site (yeahyeah) is soon up! I'll mail the URL later this week.



    all questions shall be directed to me, Daggan, beverage@freq.se
_______________________________________________________________________
>>>> Beverage_Box 9223_S-102 73 Stockholm_Sweden_Fax:+46-884 00 18 <<<<




From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 08:42:10 1996
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In a message dated 96-06-18 11:36:48 EDT, you write:

>           The Orb vs Orbital vs William Orbit

              Orbital
       Meat Beat Manifesto

Jesus..I don't know if I should just come out and say this..but I really
really don't believe this one.  I know for a fact that The Orb, Orbital and
Meat Beat Manifesto is going to be in Organic in Southern California on the
22nd of June...so how's that going to work out?  If anyone wants to help me
out here..pleaz be my guest..I hope it's not an attempt to do that whole
Megalith thing where no one knows what the hell is going on.  In any
case..take care.  laterz
Peace out
Allyson

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In a message dated 96-06-18 11:07:03 EDT, you write:

>Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>
>******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)
>
>
>
so um..what did we agree this was all about again?  It's really, extrememly,
agitatingly, painfully annoying and I want it to go away.  Didn't someone say
that they were going to take care of this...whatever the hell it is..???
 ugh.  



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> 		      KANSAS!  Klash of the Titans II
> 
>         Soopa Massiv (we make massive look small) Promotions presents
>                                    ----
>            R A V E  O F  T H E  U N I V E R S A L  T I T A N S II
>                     the dj battle to destroy the world

>                                       and
>        OVER ONE MILLION 500 MEGAWATT SUN-SHREDDING SIGHT-REMOVING LASERS
> 
>          WE WILL BRING GOD DOWN TO EARTH AND SHAKE HIS ASS WITH BASS

This sound system part if the fuckin funnist.  In Kansas City.  Fuckin
never ever will they have even a half way decent sounding event.  I have
heard of one single party that had half way adequate sound.

>       KANSAS CITY WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO THE WORLDS BIGGEST MOON BOUCE
>                           ++*++ Admission is Free ++*++
Free party.  Sounds like KC again.  It may be free, but with no sound it
doesnt matter.  Not to dis KC too much, the DJs from there are alright,
but give me a fuckin break.
> 
>                   (((( THIS IS THE REAL MUTHA FUCKA ))))

HAHAHAHAH  this was the funniest thing I've seen in forever.......


Luscious Daniel Smack


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Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:

******* Speedphreak (Mailbox or Conference is full.)


Someone do something about this cat.  Its getting old.
List administrators of mw-raves, do something about this asap.
Or else Speedphwreak, do something your own self.

dan


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> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:38:18 -0400
> Subject: sending info on CRUNCH
> 
> 
> --PART.BOUNDARY.0.25492.emout10.mail.aol.com.835033096
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> I had sent something on the party CRUNCH August 23, Chicago IL
> The date has got changed to Friday August 30. I'm also sending over a copy of
> the preflyer.
>  Peace
> Samantha
> 
> --PART.BOUNDARY.0.25492.emout10.mail.aol.com.835033096
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>                          Friday August 30::::::::::::::::::Chicago ILLINO=
> IS
>                                       KAOS KIDS AND INDO HOUSE
>                                                      present
>                                                     CRUNCH
> Its gonna have TRON, RICHIE WEL, PHIL FREEART, ACETATE, MADDGROOVE, =
> 
>                          QWERTY, KID ENTROPY, SEVEN, KID RIO, G-ROCK, TAN=
> K
> Doing  tagteam sets it's gonna have RAYVEN&FRANKIE VEGA  and  3D&SHAWN
> =0D
> MORE TO BE ANNOUNCED
> CALL::::::KAOS KIDS---------->312-509-6315 =
> 
>              INDO HOUSE----------->815-851-3361
> =0D
> 
> 
> =0D
> 
> 
> =0D
> 
> 
> 

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>dieselBoy vs Bob-A-Dob

hahahahhahahahahhahahah ahahahahhahahahahhhahhahahahhahahaha ROTFL LOL hhahahah

*catches breath*  *phew*...

hahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahah har har har

woo...


p.s. how could you leave off DJ DAN???? :P :P

forever searching for a snappy closing,
michael
allroy

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> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:41:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: billy hylton <wbhylt00@service1.uky.edu>
> Subject: Charm, Rave Snot, and my Hang-Ups
> 
>  Hello everybody...This past weekend I attended Charm in Dayton--my first
> party in quite some time. I suppose I have slowed down for different
> reasons, namely I feel like I have "grown out of" the scene. Of course, deep
> down I know this isn't true, I just have some hang-ups to overcome... It is
> easy for me to get nostalgic about parties in the era of "map points", etc.
> Timmy and I (same Tim that Kell was speaking of) alway get giddy talking
> about the days of driving all over Cincinnatti looking for some "rave"
> thing, having no idea what we were in for. Parties were always
> different--not just the DJ lineup and site(anyone remember "Bounce"?) There
> was an intense excitement in the air, that was impossibe to avoid...
> Regarding the issue of dance and originality, I think people unconciously as
> well as purposely jock others, but this isn't necessarily a bad thing. From
> a skateboarder's perspective, rarely do I do a trick that I totally
> invented--and even if I did invent the trick it would inevitably borrow from
> another. So in other words, what makes us unique are things like style,
> intensity and that big ass smile on our faces...So anyway, back to Charm and
> this hang-up thing...Probably my biggest deterrent from going to parties is
> that I feel I need to have a logical "justification" for traveling 3 hours
> or more, staying up all night, and having nothing tangible to show for it...
> I arrived at Charm totally stoked and ready to have an incredible evening.
> The first person I 
> ran into was a fellow Lexington kid and he got my preconceived notions rolling 
> with, "Dude, this party is fucking wack!" Great, I thought, another weekend
> sacrificed to the Rave Gods and it isn't even gonna be fun. So, to make a
> short story long, I bumbled around catching up with people and danced a
> little bit, having a real mediocre time. I have a hard time getting into
> Jungle, and Vaporspace really didn't do much for me. Returning from the
> bathroom (coughing up more soot) or as Jim(Cosmic) called "Rave Snot" I
> found out that Allison was spinning. My friend Allyson, who is, ironically,
> also from LA said that she was definitely worth checking out. Allison
> reminded me why attempting to "justify" going to parties is silly. Yeah,
> she's little but she's got BIG skills. I looked down at my watch and noticed
> that 45 minutes had passed when I thought only about 10 had. Looking around
> the room, it appeared that 75% of the people had left but the ones remaining
> were transfixed. I guess that intense excitement that I get all giddy about
> (and I'm sure you do too!) was in full effect. Kell took over the decks as
> Allison finished up and and closed this party proper. I am biased cos he
> lives in Lexington, but I can't believe that he isn't a "high profile" DJ.
> His shit is tight. If you are ever in Lex. He is usually at Heresy on
> Wednesday nights (I think its free to get in) so check him out. Just look
> for all the kids sitting out front (????????). Sorry this is rather verbose
> with nothing really earth- shattering to add, but its nice to put into words
> how a DJ, etc. can make you feel... Peace/Respect,
>                               Billy
> 
> 

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 10:23:10 1996
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> first of all:  mark gage's live set was very moving.

To say the least!!!  My head is still buzzing from it!  I sat on one of 
the dj monitors during the entire act so I could "immerse" myself in
the music that was Vapourspace.  He played some of the quirkiest 
melodies I've ever heard.  Some of his patterns seemed so random, 
yet when the 4/4 beat kicked in, they took a completely different, 
more solid form.  That guys music was amazing. I don't know how he
squeezed such a thick vibe from that little table of equipment.

> very sensual melodies overlaid by very weird rhythms...dancey but
> somehow more mental and emotional in a way.  the kick was a little
> thin, leaving less to grab on to (my only complaint) but the strange
> arrangements really drew you into the music.

I agree.  The kick was a little thin.  Too much for an ambient set, not 
enough for a techno set.  Still blew my mind away, even without the 
kick drum.

>  ok, one more minor complaint: he played his big HIT,
> "gravitational arch" which i'm still sick of...but everything else
>  seemed totally new as far as i know.  yummy!

Hey!  If you had a big hit, wouldn't you play the hell out of it too in 
front of everyone who cared!!!  =)  I'm not that into vapourspace, so I
didn't really know what to expect from his live set.  I didn't know 
the hit song from any of the others.   yummy indeed! =)  Anyone who
skipped out on this party seriously missed out.  It's not everyday 
you go to a party to hear music as good as what I heard coming from
mark gage.

> dj sets i can comment on:

Lucious Dan Smack!  WHOA MAN!!!  There weren't many people in 
the 2nd room when he played, but WOW!  His music + those trippy
video monitors they had set up = one crazy fucking experience.  Dan
seemed to think he had an "off" night...If that was an off night, I'd 
kill to hear him on an "on" night!

Kevvy Kev (not sure if i spelled that right)...He really grabbed my
attention pretty late in his set (I was in the other room for the first
half).  I know that the slipmats on the main room tables were pretty
fucked up, not sure if that problem ever did get fixed.  Anyways, Kev
had this jungle track that made my mind explode.  I'm not even
going to try and explain what it sounded like, it was too fucked up.

Mc Casper/Julian - His mc'ing was good (from what I heard).  It was
a hell of a lot better than most of the shit jungle mcing that goes on
in st louis.  Did he ever spin?  I tried to get him a timeslot, but the
second room was pretty hectic.  (mark e-d, where did you disappear
to?!)

> last point:  i hear a lot of talk about the illuminators.  many people
> feel that they are assholes or something, and that they dont want
> other people to promote in dayton...etc, things like that.  far be it
>  for me to speak for them on this issue; i think they speak pretty
> clearly with their events.  in case it isnt clear to you, then i will
> present my own interpretation.

Every promoter has a "party" personality and a "non-party" 
personality.  Of course when there are a billion things that need
to get done, the fire alarms keep going off, the space owner is
acting weird, the police are bugging the people at the door, some
dj is bitching about his timeslot, etc, etc, etc...it is hard to keep the
non-party attitude going.  So inside an event, you cant expect a
promoter to be the friendly guy he is when he doesn't have a 
million things to worry about.  Arash and Kourosh (I don't know
Mike that well) are 2 of the nicest guys that I've met in dayton,
or anywhere else for that matter.
Ever since the day I met them, they have been more hospitable
and friendly than anyone else in any other city.  As promoters,
they may not be the friendliest of people, BUT DAMM, THEY
GET THE FUCKING JOB DONE, AND THEY DO IT RIGHT!!!  not to mention
that everyone goes home with Their mONeY.

> if anyone thinks they are rich foreigners who dont really care about
> the scene, or that they are too hardcore about their "anit-drug"
> stance or whatever, you're entitled to your interpretation.

Anti-drug?  They don't use drugs ("rave" drugs, that is)...but I don't
know if they adhere to any hardcore anti-drug ala Dayton sXe way of
life.  They just choose not to do them.

> responsible drug use

yeah, I can see them supporting that.

> you cant just thrown an event and then not pay anyone--you'll get
> a class action suit slapped on your ass.

Ahhh, politics =)  You've gotta love it.

> it's obvious to me that ari and kourosh (and mike in this case)
> definitely have their finger on it.

I'm just going to sit here and dwiddle my thumbs.

---ben / Cylert (really sore after last nights festivities!)

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>> Dieselboy vs Bob a Dob

> hahahahhahahahahhahahah ahahahahhahahahahhhahhahahahhah
> ROTFL LOL hhahahah
>
> *catches breath*  *phew*...
>
> hahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahhar har har
>
> woo...
> michael
> allroy

Mike, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!  Is this some sort of
joke?!  If it is, it isn't very funny!!!  God, I haven't had a laugh this
good in a while!

---ben / Cylert (my stomach hurts from laughing too hard!)

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> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:42:03 -0400
> From: Pope TROUT SOUP XXIII <s0176326@cc.ysu.edu>
> Subject: check this out
> 
> this might be one to check out.  from the hotwired weekly news flash:
> 
> >Coming this week in Ask Dr. Weil: The good doc pours a tea for
> >asthmatics on Monday, takes on Transcendental Meditation's critics on
> >Tuesday, dives into the shark cartilage debate on Wednesday, sniffs at
> >anti-perspirants on Thursday, and on Friday, suggests a better approach
> >to vitamin X (MDMA).
> >
> >     http://www.healthclinic.com/
> 
> forward this around...  trouty...
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>          Trout Soup's home page of doom: http://cc.ysu.edu/~s0176326/
>                        AWE32 / MIDI / Links to odd stuff
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 

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**preflyer only "watch for the real deal soon"**

okay...we know you all want to go to *both* of the big parties on 6.22...so
we've arranged a special bus trip to make it all possible.

the bus leaves columbus tommorrow, wed, 6.19.  it will travel at an
alarming rate of speed and swing through every major city, non-major town,
and amish village in the continental united states in time to arrive back
in tha 614 sat afternoon.  call local info lines to find out when the bus
will be in *your* town.

during this time we are constructing a special rift in the fabric of time,
space, and reality as we know it...which will allow our bus, and all of its
passengers, to conveniently exist in 2 places at once...so you don't have
to miss either party!

tickets 700.00//visa/mc accepted...not responsible for personal implosion
due to rift malfunction.

hurry!!  the bus may be in your town soon!!

forever searching for a snappy closing,
michael
allroy

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In a message dated 96-06-18 15:00:22 EDT, you write:

>
>hurry!!  the bus may be in your town soon!!
 Hey..how about if I pay with my welfare checks?  Do you accept those?  If
you do then I need to reserve about 6 tickets.  Me and 5 of my 8 kids..do you
have children's prices too?  that would help out a lot thanks cuz I gotsta
make sure that I have enough dough for me to roll from ya dig?  
Shyot..one huge jokers all yaz.  
Peace out
Allyson


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> Me and 5 of my 8 kids..do you
> have children's prices too?  that would help out a lot thanks cuz I gotsta
> make sure that I have enough dough for me to roll from ya dig?  

You're going to a st.l party...  little kids eh? I dont know about that
one.  Damn it, there are already too many 15 and under going to these
things, if their parents will drive them to the party.  But under 10 years
old.  Ha Ho.  Its a funny one indeed. 

Luscious Daniel Smack


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On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Kell Pollard wrote:
> 
> You wouldn't be talking about Bob-a-Dob would you LOL
> hahahahahahahahahahaha... Very funny!  :)  ya know he was trying to explain
> to me the other day the real reason he only spins at his own parties... ;)
> Nice on Becky.... :)
> 
> 
 *innocent look* ME?? Talk about Bob-a-dob?? I would NEVER do that.. Yes, 
I really appreciate his records store, Clubhead, but the first time I 
went in there to buy gabber records, he tried to sell me jungle ones, and 
I made the mistake of letting him choose "a few really good ones" that 
weren't hard enough, too cheesy, and half of them weren't even in the 
gabber/hardcore/hard acid/acidcore family!!! They were house records! =P 
Everyone make sure they spend money to go to Kaboom 3 for me. Since it's 
the day BEFORE FAmily Affair 2, and we ALL know we're gonnaw anna party 
wiht him before that weekend.. Yeah, whatever.. Thanks god I'll be in 
Germany.. =)

 If you too would like to share Bob-a-Dob stories, please, cal 
1-800-I-PROMOTE-MYSELF... =)

*hugs-n-smooches*

-Becky =)

p.s. no offense to anyone caliming to be his friend, he and I just don't 
get along since he's scared of me after the "Throwing flyers in my face 
for the party he ahd the same nite as Fantastic Voyage incident"...
 

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I'm sendin the pre-flyer over

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>> Me and 5 of my 8 kids..do you
>> have children's prices too?  that would help out a lot thanks cuz I gotsta
>> make sure that I have enough dough for me to roll from ya dig?
>
>You're going to a st.l party...  little kids eh? I dont know about that
>one.  Damn it, there are already too many 15 and under going to these
>things, if their parents will drive them to the party.  But under 10 years
>old.  Ha Ho.  Its a funny one indeed.
>
>Luscious Daniel Smack

hey dan... Ally's only 15 herself... her kids are all older than she is... ;)


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 14:43:12 1996
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well since gill has taken care of the megalith pre party i figured i 
might as well provide a little something for the KOTT peoples...basically 
there will be a pre party for KOTT on june 21st...

		JUNE 21ST. SHEBOYGAN, WI. WESHINIMAH PRESENTS:

		        *******TITANIC BUILDUP****** 
          (a.k.a. the "i always wanted to try spinning that..." party)



FEATURING:
	
	GABBER TENT:

		Paul Johnson
		Green Velvet
		Snuggles and Slak
		and doing a live gabber-up-yer-ass PA: Terre Theamlitz

	DRUM AND BASS:

		MR. BILL(milwaukee) 
		      vs.
		MR. BILL (michigan)
		      vs.
		MR. BILL (southeast US)

		my brother's stoner friend who heard a dieselboy tape and 
		said "whoooaaaahhh.....neat."


	AMBIENT/DEEP HOUSE/????:

		Delta 9
		Tron
		Tron's mom
		Tron's brother Ed.

	*DRUM CIRCLE BY THE SHEBOYGAN SOUTH HIGH MARCHING BAND*

	*SMART DRINKS (KOOL AID) BY MY MOM*

	*LIGHTS BY MY BROTHER FLIPPING THE LIVING ROOM SWITCHES AT RANDOM*

it has not been confirmed yet but the KOTT/MEGALITH bus may have a 
shuttle available to make it up here...more info to come...


MORE TO COME..........


____________________________________________________________________
dylan/fuse/danu                          
bryn0017@gold.tc.umn.edu                    
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this is a complete waste of bandwidth but i'm really desperate for cash.  
i got a pioneer 6' sub i wanna get rid of.  i'll sell it for around $25 
to whoever wants it.  i live in madison so if you're interested e-mail me 
back

	brentT
	 salesman, brent's house of used shit, ink.
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 14:58:27 1996
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SATURDAY JULY 6 1996

BRAHMAN

PRESENTED BY OM PRODUCTIONS
FEATURING DJ'S:

DAN EFEX
NICK NICE
SPEEDY
ADEPTUS
AUDIOPIMP
QUASAR
AND MORE T.B.A.

INFO:608.283.3123


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To: mw-raves@hyperreal.com, NE-RAVES@world.std.com, ER96@uno.cc.geneseo.edu,
        cuda@mydomain.roc.servtech.com, magentra@fangz.com,
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AUGUST 3rd - Rochester NY

PHATO & SKY BABY ARE TEAMING UP :

HERE IS THE LINE UP SO FAR :

SUPERSTAR DK KEOKI  (moonshine records)
LARS    (you've seen him on the REAL WORLD ..  now hear him live)
JOHNNY VICIOUS   (vicious muzik ..also DJ's @ the ROXY )
DR. TRANCE   (nrg 108 , toronto)
MICRO    (sorted records, ny)
DJ JES (IHR , gramaphone)  :  some may not know JES... He's a DJ from Chicago
who has put out an EP w/ the track called  "With Prayer" ... if you liked BAD
BOY BILL @ MARS.. you are going to be amazed when you hear JES... they both
come from the same School of DJ'ing... the Streets of CHICAGO .. NUFF said.
METHOD ONE - (remixed DEE-LITE's "CALL ME")
ENTITY (ultraworld)
JAMES SCOT  (cor)
FLEX (sky baby / phat o)

THE RETURN OF  : V I S I T O R

This next DJ was my choice...

When I first moved to Rochester I used to go to a club called PANDAMONIUM...
at this club I heard a DJ that just blew my mind.. w/ the tricks he did....
Now he works at a local Radio Station and DJ's live every Saturday night....
His name is :

       ***    DJ J-SMOOTH   **** 

He will be doing an OLD SKOOL HIP-HOP set ... And I'm sure if you like DJ's
w/ skill he will not let you down

That's it for now :

call 

(315)63-PHATO   or (716) 234-VIBE   for more info :

TIX will cost $15 in advance a week prior to the party  .. $18 the week of
and $20 at the door...

It's up to you how much you want to save

Peace

DJ Flex
SKY BABY Productions
          

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bad bad bad why does there have to be another campout party on the same
weekend as family affair?

-kc


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 15:17:38 1996
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        Hey what up?   OK, i'm gonna play my little game i call "give marc
some information".  It's real easy to play, and everyone always wins,
especially me =)

    1.    Anyway, i'm amassing a sound system right now, piece by piece, so
i can start mixing, and i am considering buying the Ortofon DJS cartridges.
I know Ort's just make your records sing, and i really like they're cut away
design and lighted tip, making it nearly impossible to not notice where the
stylus is (you'd have to be blind)!  BUT...are they worth $130 apiece to
someone who is just starting out or should i just get the economical Stanton
500's or something?  All i've got for equipment is 1 1200 right now, but i'm
gonna have about another $1500 to work with this summer.  But i do want to
buy high quality gear that will last in the long run.  and i don't want big
boomin speakers either cuz i'm gonna be in the dorms again, so i was just
thinking about getting some nice monitors.  Anybody have any opinions on
Alesis?  

   2.    I'm also interested in composing music w/ my computer, and i was
wondering if any of you could offer me any good sites to check out where i
could download some stuff.  (Yeah, i know, hyperreal's probly a good place
to start).  I run a pentium, and i'd like to find a good 303 emulator, drum
machine, ya know the whole kit and kaboodle =).   also, will i need to
download any additional sound software?

    3.    Oh, and as long as everybody's posting about fake ass parties,
here's my contribution.

                                                PSEUDOQUASI

                        A Free,  Daily Event Occuring Every Night in My Room

                Featuring DJ's:
                        Keoki
DB
                        Laurent Garnier
Eric L
                        Kee
D'ZAK
                        ESP-Woody McBride                               The
Stickmen
                        Mike Dearborn
Misjah & Tim                                          
                        Terry Mullen
Josh "muthafookin"  Wink aka Winx    
        
                Special live PA by Hyperactive

                And the amazing live talents of Amorphous Androgynous aka
The Future Sound of London

The lighting is minimal but sure to dazzle, featuring a lava lamp, black
light, and strobe

Drinks and scooby snacks are free if i have any to offer

I also set up a special "net booth" at each and every event i host.

                Hope to see you there!  ;~)
                                                        Peace,    Marc
                                                                



             


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   sat june 22
  columbus ohio
 collective intelligence busts it out with

            oooo
           oo  oo
           oo  oo HIO
            oooo 
                     PLAYERS

            an all-ohio dj lineup including:

     james temple - athens 
          release - cleveland
             fuzz - cleveland
         hesohigh - akron
            arash - dayton
              fro - columbus
             arai - columbus
            mogli - cincinnati
           mark d - cincinnati
      perry ellis - cincinnati
 
   ***ONLY $5 at the do'***

for directions or mo' info call these pimplines:

collective intelligence: 614.341.7305
table of ele_ments: 614.470.0929

peas
++
e d

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In a message dated 96-06-18 17:39:33 EDT, you write:

>
>>> Me and 5 of my 8 kids..do you
>>> have children's prices too?  that would help out a lot thanks cuz I
gotsta
>>> make sure that I have enough dough for me to roll from ya dig?
>>
>>You're going to a st.l party...  little kids eh? I dont know about that
>>one.  Damn it, there are already too many 15 and under going to these
>>things, if their parents will drive them to the party.  But under 10 years
>>old.  Ha Ho.  Its a funny one indeed.
>>
>>Luscious Daniel Smack
>
>hey dan... Ally's only 15 herself... her kids are all older than she is...
;)
>
>
>            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell
>
>
>

Oh god..I'm lauging too hard.  My stomach hurts!!   Indeed.  On the contrary.
 I am a 45 year old who looks like a 22 year old.  I'm one of those old skool
21 Jumpstreet cops that's all incognito and is trying to infultrate the
horrible rave scene so I can stop crime, hooligans, rag-a-muffins and all
those drugs which is the exact cause of America's downfall today.  yeah..and
also..I work for Channel 4 and Hard Copy too.  But don't wanna start all that
again..so take care everyone.  I think we've beat this one to death.  laterz
Peace out
Allyson

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welp since i didn't see it on the pb-cle calendar eventho i think
desmond may have posted about it before ('specially since he's a
part of Collective) and since this party could really use yur support
(since they lost money on their last party)...

                       
(this party is for real)


Collective Intelligence is proud to present            
a fine line of strictly Ohio DJ's

Come on...Come all...

O H I O   P L A Y E R S

June 22, 1996 (this is the part they left out on the flyer)

Columbus, Ohio

DJ's:

RELEASE - Holiday Productions, Cleveland
FUZZ - Holiday Productions, Cleveland
HESOHI - UPS, Akron
ARASH - Illuminators, Dayton
MARK D - Cincinnati
JAMES TEMPLE - Universal Groove, Athens
ARAI - Ewok Tribe, Columbus
PERRY ELLIS - Cincinnati
FRO - Collective Intelligence, Columbus
DJ JEFF - Collective Intelligence, Columbus
 
and i believe MOGLI from Cinci has been added to the line-up

Info: Collective Intelligence (614) 341-7305

---

ack! so little time & so much to do! and i wanted to post a review
of Charm too! maybe later but i gotta go to work now. but it's good
to see the list is finally getting a sense of humor =) . . .

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hey what do you know....
  
Plastikman is #53 on the Hemp 100 in the new High Times...
 
way to go richie... the stoner's are 'seeing the light'.. =>

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[regarding Organic '96 and CA events]

> Just to say something about the EVENTS out there..they
> NEVER EVER disappoint.  Never. Music wise, vibe wise or experience wise.

Koff Koff Gag Gag I'm sorry, there's no place on earth this nice. CA,
while cool as hell, is way hyped. Sure there are some truly amazing
events, but there is wack shit as well. Subscribe to
socal-raves@hyperreal.com to find out more...

Sorry but as a former socal resident I couldn't really let this pass...

...Gage

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Hi, I just wanted to apologize to everybody on the list for those bounced
messages you've all been recieving. We're in the process of transferring
list ownership, and I'm still learning how to do stuff. Please bear with
us. I expect to be up to speed within a week.

-Jeff Gage

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> 
> 		JUNE 21ST. SHEBOYGAN, WI. WESHINIMAH PRESENTS:
> 
> 		        *******TITANIC BUILDUP****** 
>           (a.k.a. the "i always wanted to try spinning that..." party)

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Gawd, I would love to see that!

chris


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>                my brother's stoner friend who heard a dieselboy tape and
>                said "whoooaaaahhh.....neat."

not to spread nasty rumors, but he has not shown up for half of his gigs
lately, after plane tickets/hotel rooms etc have been paid for.  *if* he
shows up and *if* he is not too stoned to spin he should be awesome, d00d.

>it has not been confirmed yet but the KOTT/MEGALITH bus may have a
>shuttle available to make it up here...more info to come...

the bus will indeed be stopping at both dylan's and gill's preparties.  YOU
HAVE BEEN WARNED...

forever searching for a snappy closing,
michael
allroy

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 18:53:21 1996
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On Tue, 18 Jun 1996 kctopitz@students.wisc.edu wrote:

> bad bad bad why does there have to be another campout party on the same
> weekend as family affair?
> 
> -kc
> 
> 
Actually all things considered, V seems to be a much better party.



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On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Davis J. Bassan B.S. wrote:

> Actually all things considered, V seems to be a much better party.

he he he...of course it is.  I'LL be there.  or so sez the flyer.

"ed luna."  ha ha, like i'm just going to BE there, not spinning, not 
doing nothing.  hee hee.  of course i'm spinning, i cant wait.  expect 
your mind to be expanded by several centimeters by the set i'm planning...

and just for the record, the reason the ele mental cru is not spinning at
HONKEY AFFAIR II is that the honkeys in st louis specifically asked for our
presence from the get-go.  brian and cru at UPS, as usual, only thought
of us as an afterthought.  not to mention many clevelanders like sleepy-c
and gank... 

*ahem*

but it's cool, i'm not out to divide the scene or anything here, just 
thought i'd give you my take on why i won't be at FA II.

i do have a small beef with brian but i am going to help him promote in
any modest way i can (not that he needs my help, i've seen plenty o flyers
for FA II down here).  and i must say he has a much better lineup this 
year, in my opinion.

but st louis still beats it for me.  and truthfully it's all about being 
acknowledged.  it's nice to actually be asked to be a part of something 
so far away...like someone's actually noticed all the garbage we've 
been saying and doing over the last 3 years.  i only wish people around 
here didnt take us for granted like they do.  

sorry, didnt mean to make this so personal.
++
e d

coil.com/~eluna/ele_mental.html

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In Lexington, KY this weekend...

                             "BY YOUR COMMAND"

                               June 22, 1996

                                 ASTROBOY
                               (St.  Louis)

        Damon (cincinatti)                      Kell (NO promotions: Lexington)
        Cory  (NO promotions: Lexington)        COSMIC (Pro-Vinyl: Lexington)
        Mutt (Flav-o-Rich: Lexington)           and others...


The party will be at HERESY, 140 E. Main St. (yes, again)
Starts @ 10:00
Only $5 (I think)

phone number at HERESY is: 606.258.2662
call them and make them tell you were it is... and then tell them they
really ought ot get a voice mail.... :)


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Dj Kell                                           Sound- 606.268.9843
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Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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Come on down and help us celebrate the wedding of Bruce(tig) and Julliana

June 29, 1996 at HERESY 140 E. Main St. (yes... AGAIN)

  The MASTERS OF MAHEM
--------------------------
Feelgood (Fever-Baltimore)
Goodwill (Zenith Prod-Deleware)
Trevor Lamont (Zenith Prod-Lexington)
Chip B (Nashville)
Kell (NO promotions-Lexington)
Damon (Cincinatti)
Cory (Lexington)
Sean Catinella (Knoxville)
Live PA by Craco Saca (Bloomington)
COSMIC (Pro-Vinyl - Lexington)
Mutt (Flav-o-Rich-Lexington)
Madam Butterfly (first time EVER on Earth!!!!)
Frenche (Maxximum-Louisville)
Jace (Nashville)
Braddy Daddy (Hip Hop MASTER!!! - Lexington)
Vrave's own STAR! (chicago)
Darby (Dayton)
Rhea (Cincinatti)
Troll (Cincinatti)
X-ian (Cincinatti)
Binky (Lexington)

This is a FREE party... And MAN, I mean FREE!!!  $0

Starts at 11:00PM, goes till the cows come home...

For More INFO:

317-767-7863 (indianapolis)
502-569-1969 (louisville)
606-226-6850 (lexington)

Sound By Maxximun :)

At Least two (2) rooms of GROOOOOOVE

            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 18 22:15:53 1996
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bob-a-dob
werd becky!!!

>On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Kell Pollard wrote:
>>
>> You wouldn't be talking about Bob-a-Dob would you LOL
>> hahahahahahahahahahaha... Very funny!  :)  ya know he was trying to explain
>> to me the other day the real reason he only spins at his own parties... ;)
>> Nice on Becky.... :)
>>
>>
> *innocent look* ME?? Talk about Bob-a-dob?? I would NEVER do that.. Yes,
>I really appreciate his records store, Clubhead, but the first time I
>went in there to buy gabber records, he tried to sell me jungle ones, and
>I made the mistake of letting him choose "a few really good ones" that
>weren't hard enough, too cheesy, and half of them weren't even in the
>gabber/hardcore/hard acid/acidcore family!!! They were house records! =P
>Everyone make sure they spend money to go to Kaboom 3 for me. Since it's
>the day BEFORE FAmily Affair 2, and we ALL know we're gonnaw anna party
>wiht him before that weekend.. Yeah, whatever.. Thanks god I'll be in
>Germany.. =)
>
> If you too would like to share Bob-a-Dob stories, please, cal
>1-800-I-PROMOTE-MYSELF... =)
>
>*hugs-n-smooches*
>
>-Becky =)
>
>p.s. no offense to anyone caliming to be his friend, he and I just don't
>get along since he's scared of me after the "Throwing flyers in my face
>for the party he ahd the same nite as Fantastic Voyage incident"...
>



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wohoo!!  i'm gonna waste some bandwidth here, just for the hell of it.
for anyone trying to find the person who used to be at

friedman@centre.edu (ben friedman) aka quirk on vrave (which i cannot get to
of late)

i'm now at this stupid aol address for lack of a better server.  sorry if you
trid to email me at skool and it got kicked back at you, but the server
crashed as skool was ending and i didn't get a chance to post before i left.
 but i'm here now, and i hear tell that i'm not missing much.  so what have i
missed then?

oh well, it's good to be back.
plur and happy stuff.

:ben

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>                Snuggles and Slak,<<<<<<<<<<-----------SOUKLD BE IN THE DRUM
>AND BASS CATGORY.



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>AUGUST 3rd - Rochester NY
> NO OFFENCE,  and im not dissing this party at all. (oh yeah im also sorry for
>wasting bandwith.)

rochester????mw???? i dont think so. id say eastcoast.\
simple
oh yeah but thanks for the 411



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>YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!
 CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T bELIEVE ME
>312-303-7283!

im really not tring to start a right here gill. but have you tried this
nuber or late. i havnt gotten an answer yet!
christian/simple



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>>YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!
> CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T bELIEVE ME
>>312-303-7283!
>
>im really not tring to start a right here gill. but have you tried this
>nuber or late. i havnt gotten an answer yet!
>christian/simple

Christian... Look Carefully at the number... :)

312 Chicago Area code...

303 aka Roland TB 303

7283 aka Hyperreal.com 7283

Gill's quite a prankster... ;)



            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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no ofence to the westcoast,but from what iver heard ..the csocal scene has
is shitty, but what do i know i have never bee west of chicago.

simple
>
>Sorry but as a former socal resident I couldn't really let this pass...
>
>...Gage
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Jeff Gage                          http://www.iosoftware.com/~dsaito/gage/
>mailto:j-gage@uiuc.edu                           voicephone://217-328-9685
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



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At 12:23 AM 6/19/96 -0500, christian matts wrote:
>>YOU ARE ALL FOOLS!
> CALL THEM IF YOU DON'T bELIEVE ME
>>312-303-7283!
>
>im really not tring to start a right here gill. but have you tried this
>nuber or late. i havnt gotten an answer yet!
>christian/simple

Ok this is all starting to get a little old.

Yo, CHRISTIAN IT'S A JOKE.

The megalith party is a J-O-K-E.  The Klash of the Titans is a J-O-K-E.
Dylan and Star's pre-parties are J-O-K-E-S.

A very well played and amusing joke, btw ;)

earache

PS. I've been trying to unload the title to this bridge in brooklyn.  If
anyone is interested, drop me some email - I can hook yaz up cheeeeeep.


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NE1 productions presents...

software version 1.0

lansing, michigan

	8.2.1996

more info tba

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uh i feel reall dumb. i wear the nerd hat agian.
simple



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I have two words for y'all - Lois & Nutz.

'Nuff fuckin' said.

earache

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> 
> PS. I've been trying to unload the title to this bridge in brooklyn.  If
> anyone is interested, drop me some email - I can hook yaz up cheeeeeep.

OK FOLKS....

after a discussion with the promoters of MEGALITH, KOTT, gill, and 
myself, and now with the offer of earache, we pooled our money and we 
will be throwing all afforementioned events on the brooklyn bridge.
to cover the cost, we are raising the price of the pre parties to $30 a 
head and $2000 a head for the actual parties. however, this will most 
likely bring down the price of the tour bus which was headed to both 
events, so that's good for you.

keeping it surreal for the nine six....

dylan

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>i do have a small beef with brian but i am going to help him promote in
>any modest way i can (not that he needs my help, i've seen plenty o flyers
>for FA II down here).  and i must say he has a much better lineup this
>year, in my opinion.
 stlouie still has more better jungle djs!!!!!!!!!!!\
unless i just dont know the names of the jungle djs at FA2.

oh and sorry about the great grammer. ya know i was teached in the
bestestes or ohio's public skools.:P

simple
aka christian
aka see above
aka "HAY YOU!"



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ed i give the madest props and the biggest up possible!
(if those phrases make sence to you:P)

christian/simple



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On 18 Jun 96 at 0:53, Toymasheen@aol.com wrote:

> Hey to all you people:
> Just wanted to pass along something I read today.  I was sitting around
> reading my parents' MONEY magazine (cuz you know I'm corporate like that) and
> saw that the issue was about the best place to live in America.  And guess
> where it was?
> Props to you guys in MadTown, WI cause according to that magazine..that's the
> NUMBER 1 place to live in the US in the year of 1996.  Lucky asses.  From
> what I read on this thing, you guys seem to have it all.  Great parties,
> amazing vibes and now it seems as if the corporate world is eating you guys
> up too. Good job.  In any case...just thought you guys might like that little
> bit of random thought.  Laterz
> Peace out
> Allyson
> 
> 

and out of the 300 listed ROCKFORD ILLINOIS (of which chicago is a suburb) 
is the last.


thanks for your attention.


--star*
**********************************************************
star@interaccess.com http://homepage.interaccess.com/~star
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                                               [Top Secret]
MA4--
____Manoeuvres accompanied by a sense of reality transformation
____for the observer. 
(from) http://www.bahnhof.se/~mike/ufo/vallee.html

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Greetings & Salutations, funky mw-people!  =)
Got some fun stuff for ya...

If someone told you that just *1 minute* of your time, just 1 minute of
focus, could actually make a difference in the future of the planet, would
you set aside that 1 minute?  Of course you would... right?  (I hope?)

I'm posting this to mw-raves 'cuz I posted information here about a
stargate in March, some of you tuned-in, and your participation did make a
difference and was much appreciated.  (I knew some of you would be down
with it... a big thanx to those who came through, the effort was a
success.)  Once again I have been informed that there are some of you out
there in mw-land (and some who will receive a fwd of this message) whose
participation is needed in some events... some of you will feel the
calling, some of you will simply be curious and get turned-on to it; anyone
who wants to see peace on Earth is welcome.

Please keep in mind that it doesn't really matter what your background or
beliefs are, it doesn't matter if you really get into any of the details of
the following events... but if you believe in peace, that's what matters,
and your energy is valuable to these efforts.

Remember these dates:

    -Thursday June 20th, 1996.
    -Friday June 21st, 1996.
    -Wednesday June 26th, 1996.

There are some very significant global events going down this year.  I have
compiled them here for you so that you can see the sequence of events
unfolding and how powerful this can be in the long-run.  The three events
are being handled by different groups of people, but all of them form a big
cosmic smile when you look at the big picture.  [Don't mind the wordiness
of the first one below... in a nutshell, just think along the lines of
"equinox", and remember, it doesn't matter if you really get into the
details or what you believe, your intent for peace is what really matters.]

** June 20th is another stargate.  A stargate is an etheric
interdimensional energy alignment between two points in interstellar space
which allows high vibrational energies to pass through long distances of
space along the space-time continuum.  These alignments are particularly
crucial at this time as the vibration of the Earth is speeding up.  These
alignments assist Earth to harmoniously rebalance the sub-atomic particles
of "etheric energies" which align and compose the current reality in which
we live.

** June 21st is the day of the worldwide unity ceremonies.  Arvol Looking
Horse, the 19th Generation Keeper of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe for
the Lakota-Dakota-Nakota Nation, has asked *all peoples and all nations* to
declare June 21, 1996 as World Peace and Prayer Day.  Mr. Looking Horse has
written:  "Our prophecies are clear.  According to the many respected
indigenous spiritual leaders and elders who gathered to 'present signs'
from their ancient traditions at the United Nations in 1993, and again at
Six Nations, Canada in 1995, it is time to mend the Sacred Hoop of life on
our Earth Mother.  The birth of the White Buffalo Calf (August 20, 1994)
let us know that we are at a crossroads: we either return to balance or
face global disaster.  It is our duty to journey to the sacred places of
the world and pray for world peace.  If we do not do this our children will
suffer."

** June 26th is the 13:13 Four Corners planetary boundary dissolving
ceremonies:  "We, the peoples of planet Earth... do hereby call for a
planetary boundary dissolving ceremony to once and for all eliminate as a
biospherically destructive fiction any and all notion of boundaries,
national, state, and ultimately, private, inclusive of the attendant
illusion of 'nation states,' and all authority falsely invested in the
nation states, which constitute yet another disempowering secondary
illusion. The planetary boundary dissolving ceremony will inaugurate the
"52 Days of Victory" of universal peace with a collective autonomous act
exemplifying the sacred restoration of human trust."

If anyone would like to participate in these gatherings, it can be as
little as setting aside 1 minute and focusing on the issue at hand, or as
much as you wanna do... just as long as you focus your consciousness on it
and state your intent for planetary peace.  Please understand that these
gatherings might not have immediate physical results, but rest assured,
when this many people link up consciousness, it gets greatly multiplied,
sends out a wave of energy, and truly does make a difference in the long
run... previous gatherings have already made a visible difference on Earth,
and they just keep getting larger...

For more info on how to participate:

  -June 20 Stargate -- http://www.salemctr.com/earthlink.html/
  -June 21 Worldwide Unity Ceremony -- e-mail me and I'll send you the info.
   (Sorry, I dunno of any web sites with it.)
  -June 26 4 Corners -- http://www.victory-net.com/

If you can't make the exact times listed in the info for the actual
ceremonies, at least try to tune-in at some point during the day.

============================================================================

I'm going to be at the 4 Corners area of AZ, UT, CO, and NM at the heart of
the gathering on June 26th.  If anyone would like to hear how it went,
lemme know.  :)

Oh, and I went and visited Miracle the white buffalo calf in Janesville, WI
on Saturday, hehe, she's cute.  The prophecy about the birth of this calf
was passed down for many generations in native tradition... they even knew
the area of the country she would be born in... it was even said that the
calf would change colors 3 times and then turn back to white, even though
*buffalo don't change colors*... yet this one has indeed changed to 3
colors.  Yup... Earth is a fun place right now.  ;>

[* Please pass this info along as you see fit.  The more people
participate, the better!  Spread the word!  *]

      Peace & Groove,

           Randy
            a d
             n
            a d
           Randy

Rainbow Freq!
Department of Interdimensional Groov
osiris7@cris.com
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 19 09:39:25 1996
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Hey kids this was sent to me from a girl from my neck of the woods wanting
real time info on the where and how of Family Affair... Since those riff
raff guys don't return my calls (or even have a phone right now) I thought
some one out there might have better info???  Anyway, send her line if you
can help her out.


>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:47:10 -0500
>To: kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu (Kell Pollard)
>From: kittyn@overlord.dmv.com (kittyn)
>Subject: kell forward to mw raves please ;)
>
>ok...  i am trying this again through a mw-raver.  but i really need
>someone's help... i am planning on going to family affair & i am hoping i
>can find someone to keep me posted on the location & all the basic info.  i
>am taking a couple other ppl with me... staying for the entire event.. and
>i do not have a flyer.  will one of u please send me any bit of information
>u get on it??  if someone is willing to call the info line # regularly for
>me i would *really* appreciate it.  & just to warn u all that i am not the
>only ne-raver hittin the party! ;)
>
>missin the midwest,
>kittyn
>
>%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@
>             http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/kittyn/index.html
>
>kittyn@mail.dmv.com                       never accept an invitation from a
>katst22@pitt.edu                          stranger unless he gives you candy--
>katst22@vms.cis.pitt.edu                  linda festa
>
>i believe that eating pork                i have found little that is good
>makes people stupid. --                   about human beings.  in my
>david steinberg                           experience most of them are trash.
>                                          --sigmund freud
>when you are in love with
>someone, you want to be near              i'm sick of men!  i'm sick of trying
>him all the time, except when             to meet them... sick of trying to
>you are out buying things &               figure them out... & disgusted with
>charging them to his name--               how much of my precious life i've
>miss piggy                                already wasted on them!  -- Cathy
>%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@%@
>

            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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Dj Kell                                           Sound- 606.268.9843
Lexington, Kentucky                       Alpha-Numeric- kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu
Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

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On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Professor Earache wrote:

> I have two words for y'all - Lois & Nutz.
> 
> 'Nuff fuckin' said.
> 
> earache
----
what about nut lois? havent heard that name in a while :> 
letsee....their last party i went to was....reunion, i think.

oh yeah....tonight, in mpls, is refreshed. clinton said this is going to
be the last one in a while cuz he has to work and stuff....so come on down!
i will be the opener...ya know, the guy that spin when no one is there :>
if i suck, hold back the tomatoes, this is my first gig! come and tap me
on the shoulder if you cant handle me anymore. 

spinning my way through a hot summer
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
john (real) * dove (dj) * jest (tag)

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Don't forget about "Juice" this FRIDAY in Chicago... here's the line up:


21 JUNE Friday			CHICAGO			JUICE

           CORE INNOVATIONS and CATALYST RECORDS present...

                    * J * U * I * C * E *

              Friday June 21, the beat goes on..

          ONIONZ.................New York/New York, Electric Soul
          FEEL.GOOD..............Baltimore, Fever
          EFEX...................Chicago
          TERRY MULLAN...........Chicago, Catalyst Records

JUICE is a product of Core Innovations and Catalyst Records of Chicago.  This
is the first club night of its kind here in the Windy City. 17 AND OLDER WITH 
PHOTO ID.

Hours...10pm-4am   Admission...$7 before 11pm, $9 after 11pm.
Call info line for updates and directions.

312.509.5195

Juice will continue July 5 and July 19th...

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This is cheesy but kinda funny.....

----------
From: 	Washington D.C. Rave List on behalf of Masayuki Matukawa
Sent: 	Wednesday, June 19, 1996 12:13 PM
To: 	Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES
Subject: 	Fwd: Sexual Chain Letter

>From: Squatch109@aol.com
>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:09:28 -0400
>To: jsong@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (masayukimatukawa)
>Subject: Fwd: Sexual Chain Letter
>
>
>     I had a great time this weekend.  Please thank Staci again for me when
>     you see or talk to her.  I hope you all had a great time Saturday.
>
>     I'm sending this to Will next.  I think you know why.
>
>        Alyson
>______________________________ Forward Header
>__________________________________
>Subject: Fwd: Sexual Chain Letter
>Author:  Rob Atherton at ASHCROFT-DC
>Date:    10/23/95 10:39 AM
>
>
>     I usually just trash these things but given the topic, it seemed
>     worthwhile to pass it on!!
>
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>______________________________ Forward Header
>__________________________________
>Subject: Fwd: Sexual Chain Letter
>Author:  David James at ASHCROFT-DC
>Date:    10/23/95 10:20 AM
>
>
>
>        Dear Colleagues:
>                My wishes for a most productive social life!!!
>
>______________________________ Forward Header
>__________________________________
>
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>           WITH SEX ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE
>
>This paper has been sent to you for good luck. The original
>has been worn out from having passed through the hands
>of so many people. It had travelled around the world 70
>times [Dear Reader: please help keep this count current. If
>this letter falls into your hands after just completing one
>more circuit of the world, please add one to the count.] The
>luck has now been sent to you.
>
>You will experience great sex within four days of receiving
>this letter, provided you send it on. Since the copy must
>
>tour the world, you must make ten copies and send them
>to others. This is no joke. Send no money. Send copies to
>people who need to get laid within 96 hours.
>
>After he passed this letter on, a Montana Spinach Control
>Officer got his penis stuck in a cow-milking machine and
>had the longest series of orgasms of his life. John Elliot
>tried to pick up a prostitute, but, because he broke the
>chain, was picked up by the police instead. When they
>searched his home, they found magazines of little boys
>which they showed to his neighbors. In a suburb of Paris,
>Don Loray's trousers were ripped by an unsatisfied
>erection, 51 days after failing to circulate the letter.
>However, before this happened, a condom machine gave
>him three condoms for the price of one. (was this the
>consolation prize?)
>Do note the following: Hebert Pudstrom received the chain
>in 1953. He asked his secretary to make ten copies and
>send them out. A few days later he encountered her in a
>red-light district making more than he had ever paid her at
>work. General George Patton, who sent the letter on, saw
>what he thought was a quarter in the street. When he bent
>down to pick it up, a beautiful woman in a miniskirt walked
>by, and he got a great view. Heywood Daddit, an
>unemployed chicken choker, received the letter and forgot
>that it had to leave his hands within 96 hours. His wife
>then went bowling with his best friend and never returned.
>Later, after finding the letter again, he mailed ten copies. A
>few days later he got a wife and discovered that his old
>wife, who he thought was wonderful, had made love to
>him like a dead salmon for all these years! Alan Fairchild
>received the letter and, not believing, threw the letter
>away. Nine days later he spilled hot coffee in his crotch.
>In 1987 the letter received by a young woman in Texas
>was faded and barely readable, so she did not realize that
>this paragraph applied to her. She promised herself she
>would retype the letter and send it on, but she put it aside
>to do later. She was plagued with problems including
>herpes and other venereal diseases she contracted in her
>futile attempts to find Mr. Right in a singles bar. The letter
>did not leave her hands in 96 hours. She finally typed the
>letter and found a man with a 10-inch penis.
>Beware   however of the fate of the E-mail user at Trent
>University, Peterborough  ON, that sent this letter to
>himself over five thousand times in one afternoon. Before
>leaving the computer lab a strange woman came up behind
>him, bit his ear and put her hand down his pants. The
>ensuing surprise caused him to stumble forward and cry
>out. As he attempted to arrest his fall by grabbing a nearby
>PC, a gob of spittle that had been flung from his mouth (as
>he cried out) landed deep into the inner recesses of the
>computer, all three (student, strange woman and computer)
>then experienced simultaneous Cyber-Orgasms of
>exponential intensity before exploding in a puff of smoking
>data.
>You must distribute at least ten copies within 96 hours of
>receiving this letter. Those who do will find their love lives
>more fulfilling. Those who do not will be doomed to
>one-night stands with mechanical devices.
>
>
>===========================================================================
>Kenneth J. Shaw                     ______________________________________
>                                    | Burtis Lab                          |
>send snail mail to---------->       | Molecular & Cellular Biology Div.   |
>lab phone: 752-5595                 | University of California at Davis   |
>e-mail: kjshaw@ucdavis.edu          | Davis, CA 95616                     |
>lab web page:                       |_____________________________________|
>http://www-mcb.ucdavis.edu/faculty-labs/burtis/burtis-lab.html
>===========================================================================
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CHARM - the illuminators - 6/15/96 - dayton, ohio
-------------------------------------------------

(standard disclaimer: if u are unfamiliar w/ the typical stevie t 
 review they tend to be long & often run off topic. so as with becky
 i must warn u to read @ yur own risk. oh btw becky, gotta give u
 props, u may think yur reviews may be bandwidth wasting, but they
 shows just how much positivity u eminate not only in the way u
 write but in the amount of pure energy u add to the scene by helping
 the promotors w/ their events. keep up the vibe & don't let the negative 
 fuks get to yah!)

ok being the opinionated motherf*cker i am, i wanna start by 
commenting on some previous reviews of the party before i get into
my own...

ed sed:
====================================================================
first of all:  mark gage's live set was very moving.  after 2 earlier
attempts by the illuminators to get him to play live in dayton ended with
chaos on the one hand and eqiuipment failure on the other, the third time
did indeed prove to be the "charm."  very sensual melodies overlaid by 
very weird rhythms...dancey but somehow more mental and emotional in a 
way.  the kick was a little thin, leaving less to grab on to (my only 
complaint) but the strange arrangements really drew you into the music.  
it's like a european trance sensibility translated through the filters of 
detroit's experimental music...wouldnt mind getting ahold of any of his 
new material.  ok, one more minor complaint: he played his big HIT, 
"gravitational arch" which i'm still sick of...but everything else seemed 
totally new as far as i know.  yummy!
======================================================================

1st off it's "gravitational arch of 10", 2nd off i dunno what yur talking
about ed cuz his new rendition of the song was phenominal & it did not even
closely resemble the original version he put out in '93. in fact it was
even completely different from the version he played in syracuse @ Mars
about two months ago. i personally loved his new remix of it. my only
downer was forgetting to show him the pic i snapped of him @ Mars after
shaking his hand & commenting on how an amazing producer he wuz. that's
another thing i don't think kids knew just how lucky they were cuz Mark's
set @ Charm wuz about twice as long as it wuz @ Mars plus u only had to 
pay a mere five bones instead of the twenty five to get into Mars (but 
then again i didn't hafta to pay to get into either party). oh one more
thing, mark may be signed to Plus 8, a detroit lable, but he's from rochester,
new york (ack! sacreligious! who brought such an evil east coaster to our
holy parts!).

========================================================================
monochrome - after some false starts he finally got a spot in the second 
room and did a sloppy set of good jungle tunes (blame that system, 
partially ;), then proceeded to play a ripping set of _techno_ 
stuff...hardtraxx stuff, and really got the crowd moving.  by the end of 
charles' set he had almost as many people in the small room as there were 
in the main room.  yay!
=========================================================================

of course being the sh*t head i am, i missed out on it! the ironic part
wuz i had told charles how nice he looked in his shirt & tie (hmmm could
star or myself inspired this?) & how he wuz "all dressed up & had no place 
to go" before he found out that he would be spinning after all. my only 
consolation wuz meeting his totally rad mom. yup mama monochrome gets my 
vote for kewlest rave parent (the title wuz previously held by lonnie's dad 
who participated in the break dance circle at one of his ultraworld partys).
but rumor has it that ed's mom plans on stealing this title when she will
become the newest member of GAGA this friday (and u thought ed looked kewl
in his tights), tee hee, stevie's joke gimmick to get kids to come out to
ACTIVE NOT PASSIVE =)

============================================================================
last point:  i hear a lot of talk about the illuminators.  many people
feel that they are assholes or something, and that they dont want other
people to promote in dayton...etc, things like that.  far be it for me to
speak for them on this issue; i think they speak pretty clearly with their
events.  in case it isnt clear to you, then i will present my own
interpretation.  this was a $5 event.  over 1/2 the budget was LOST. 
money was lost, not _tons_, but it's all gone now.  the illuminators,
whether it be arash spearheading the event, or kourosh, or _whomever_, are
=============================================================================

this wuz actually my 1st illuminator event. yup five years in the scene,
one of the founding fathers in the northern ohio rave scene & never even been
to an illuminator event! and judging from this party, i would be more than happy
in helping promo any future illuminator events (as long as they don't piss on
any of the cleveland or akron flyers i bring down). the ironic part is the 
whole time i wuz there i wuz hoping to see of all people - thome tomato. i had
a surprise meeting w/ him @ FA, but haven't seen him since. i know alot of kids
down south hate his guts. but y'gotta admit the guy did get the southern ohio
scene going. and in light of all the shit talk surrounding the illuminators,
one would finally see all the BS all promotors have to go thru. and as bad as
mr. Tomato wuz i still think alot of it wuz just that - shit talk. and i know
for a fact that Thome did care about his kids cuz when Amy aka Dj Siren from
Dayton couldn't get her car started after one of his partys. Thome paid for her
tow truck. and this is exactly why i don't believe most of the shit talk
surrounding Joel aka Deadly Buddah, founding father of the pittsburgh rave 
scene. i think kids of today are just finding out about the shit u have to
deal w/ for throwing partys. ok enuff old skool ramblings...

becky sed:
===============================================================================
  When we got back, Arash put us to work moving a few barrels and skids 
around to block a couple areas off, and help set up the tables in the 
main room.. eeewww that was DIRTY!!! But kinda fun... I didn't even 
realize I had a big black smudge on my nose, and black crap all over my 
butt until becca started beating my ass (or was it Katerina?) Then, 
BEcca, Karla, and everyone at the site decided to go off and shower/clean 
up before coming back to the party.. WE followed Sean and Debbie, the 
Smart BAr guys to the hotel (mad props to them for use of their shower) 
and waited for like 40 minutes for towels.... But, we got showers, and 
================================================================================

gotta give props the space wuz doop! old skool warehouse w/ just enuff dirt
to give yur rave boogers that special color that u know & luv! after sitting
on the ground christa had to beat her ass too. the stain remained & i nicknamed
her "poopy pants". 

yup, mr. rose not only supplies us w/ the best in liquid refreshment, but the
latest in detroit happenings. this wuz why me & christa wuz a li'l out of it @
the end, she just found out some disturbing news concerning her best friend in
detroit & there wuz nothing she could do to help.

allyson sed:
===============================================================================
Okay as for the music in the main room.  The first thing I want to say: to
those people who left before DJ Alison spun...I am soooo sorry...you pretty
much missed the whole point of that party.  HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE
CENTURY>>>she rocked my world..and a half.  She was ALL that and a bag of
chips...including the salsa.  Ya dig?  This girl brought that incredible west
coast flava into the house and completely hypnotized everyone with the great
vibe and energy she released through her set.  It was amazing and anyone who 
===============================================================================

ok guilty as charged i did miss part of Alison's opening set cuz christa had 
to pee. but i'll hafta admit the 1st coupla of records wuz the stuff i wuz
waiting for all night - west coast beats that squeezed the dance outta yah.
unfortunately after we got back & due to all the disturbing news christa had
just found out we couldn't enjoy ourselves too much. but i will give props,
i thought alison stole the set of the night. other surprises wuz kevy kev
that spun some old skool hi-nrg muzik & kell that spun the trance that did 
exactly that - put me in a trance. i found myself standing by myself catatonic
absorbing all the mesmerizing grooves. i think near the end both christa & i
were too dead to move very much (perhaps i should've taken those mini-thins
u offered me, trouty) since we both had gotten up early that morning to work
and i had driven almost five hours that day, so we retired in my car & took
a much needed nap. 

kell sed:
==============================================================================
Back to Dancing... When a person starts going to parties, they are kinda
looking around and watching other people dance (especially if dancing isn't
something they have done a lot of in the past) and they kinda imitate and
learn.  They are aclimating to the environment.  So they do the moves... I
always hear people saying how some person who just started going to parties
is stealing all their moves ;)  (yeah, I'm smiling)  I'd like to point out
real quick, in case you seem to remember those words coming out of your
mouth, that... "imitation is the greatest form of flattery" :)
===============================================================================

i wish i could quote more of this since it wuz all so eloquent & so, so, so
right on. as a past "dancer" (now just an old foggy that can barely move), i
found yur interpretation quite unequivocal. many times i go out, i find myself
watching the new dancers. it is a bit flattering to see yur moves imitated 
but nothing beats seeing yur move taken to a whole new realm. that is when 
u know yur dancing has evolved. and when u take their interpretation and 
expand it that much further. the process has come full circle. i wish i could
take the time to trace dancing to some of its ancestors from the break dance
moves of frosty freeze, the founder of rock steady crew - new york, from the
vogue dancers of the gay black house clubs of chicago and new york, to the
rave dancers that inspired me: lisa lee, kurt perry, suzy q, colleen, alex,
ross, bobby, yoshi, leidra, etc. we have all inspired each other and it is quite
evident in our dance. there is a whole lineage of rave dancers that have 
followed the progress of the music. it is an underground tradition that has
survived for quite some time and continues to grow but seldom is it brought
into the light becuz dancers tend to express themselves better through their
bodily movements than their words. u'll just hafta seek the dancers to see
what they have to say thru their dance...

ok i'll guess i've wasted enuff bandwidth commenting about the past reviews
of the party so i'll just give a list of plusses on stuff i haven't covered
already...

+ driving my new rental ford conture w/ cruise control (which totally helped
  out on the long drive from 1st cleveland to columbus & then columbus to 
  dayton) - the replacement car for my honda civic that got rear ended & is
  in the shop - gotta luv full coverage when it's not yur fault in car 
  accidents!

+ introducing ben (dj atman) from columbus to ben (cylert) from dayton. it
  wuz funny cuz when we went to pick up ben he actually wuz still in his boxers
  cuz he had just had that party in his apartment last night & had just gotten
  up. we tried to get his girl jenn to come out but after losing her lunch
  on the couch the night before from all her drinking she wuzn't up to it.

+ not having to pass out all those FA 2 flyers cuz some one had already 
  brought some down. Brian wuz also happy he didn't hafta go out to indy
  cuz i got michael to pass'em out for him there too. don't worry michael
  i made sure to tell Brian to guest list yah. UPS is up on familiar rave
  promotor traditions & they've never let me down in the past.

+ practicing my southern accent w/ christa, since she's from dayton & complained
  about all the prejudiced red necks there. and then later practicing my chinese
  accent, when i got worried the red neck ravers would beat me up when they
  heard me 'fronting' to be a hick.

+ seeing mark, joe, angel, & april from cleveland dancing their bootys
  off. the new generation of dancers is looking good. i wuz kinda surprised
  to see'em cuz i had mentioned the party to 'em @ the Church on sunday, but
  never expected for them to show up. same goes w/ jeff & mary from cleveland,
  i thought jeff had to work & surprise there he wuz! see Leah, u could've
  made it out too!

+ afterparty breakfast @ Bob Evans w/ ben, sara, phil & MC Jones (who will also
  be spinning this friday @ ACTIVE NOT PASSIVE (plug, plug) - not to be confused
  w/ ed jones on this list). and driving around in circles @ the after after
  party breakfast @ McDonalds in dayton (McD's doesn't open 'til 7am so we drove
  around in circles in the parking lot 'til it did - it seemed to confuse quite
  a few of the early daytonites tho).


two minor minuses:

- not meeting all u netters that wuz @ the party - cuz i wuz so out of it. it's 

  strange coming from a scene where everybody & their mother knows u & coming to
  a city where every face is unfamiliar.

- that one kid that od'ed & had to be carted away w/ four guys holding each
  limb. it ain't a party 'til some kid flips out. but i wish kids would learn
  already.

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Steven Y. Tsang continues his vendetta:

:Plus 8, a detroit lable, but he's from rochester,
:new york (ack! sacreligious! who brought such an evil east coaster to our
:holy parts!).

Well, actually, if you're going to be that nitpicky about things,
+8 is a London, Ontario-based label.

 -d.w.

WE WILL BRING GOD DOWN TO EARTH AND SHAKE HIS ASS WITH BASS


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kell sed:
===================================================================
Hey kids this was sent to me from a girl from my neck of the woods wanting
real time info on the where and how of Family Affair... Since those riff
raff guys don't return my calls (or even have a phone right now) I thought
some one out there might have better info???  Anyway, send her line if you
can help her out.


>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:47:10 -0500
>To: kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu (Kell Pollard)
>From: kittyn@overlord.dmv.com (kittyn)
>Subject: kell forward to mw raves please ;)
>
>ok...  i am trying this again through a mw-raver.  but i really need
>someone's help... i am planning on going to family affair & i am hoping i
>can find someone to keep me posted on the location & all the basic info.  i
>am taking a couple other ppl with me... staying for the entire event.. and
>i do not have a flyer.  will one of u please send me any bit of information
>u get on it??  if someone is willing to call the info line # regularly for
>me i would *really* appreciate it.  & just to warn u all that i am not the
>only ne-raver hittin the party! ;)
>
>missin the midwest,
>kittyn
======================================================================

funny i just spoke to lee today & their phone is working fine. did u
dial the right number? riff raff # is 330.376.1644, ask for brian or lee.

updates:

* everything is go
* if u went to last years Family Affair, u've already been to the site.
  just ask anybody w/ a clue that went last year & they'll tell yah 
  where it wuz at. it's in a big campground in canton, ohio. not cleveland.
* flyers were put out  last weekend by myself in dayton, michael
  in indy, brian in detroit, and lee in chicago (btw chicago wuz the only
   city where kids had a problem w/ the flyers, hmmm, could this be due to V?)
* if u have any other questions u can e-mail me (stevie t) @ syt@po.cwru.edu
  or u can call brian or lee directly @ 330.376.1644 during regular store
  hours.

i thought kate, our very own softcore geek girl had already typed out the
flyer, but here it is again in case u missed it...


July 5th & 6th                   Akron, OH

F  A  M  I  L  Y    A  F  F  A  I  R   2

     T  H  E    R  E  U  N  I  O  N

Underground Peace Society - 330.258.1037

        
               Revolution
          Power to the people
     Cultural. Spiritual. Musical
               Revolution
      Understand, we can & will
            change the world
Consciousness, Righteous, Dedicated
                Brethen
                 Unite
            open your soul 
       experience the movement
  One love, One nation, one people  
              Underground

A   L O V E   F E S T I V A L   S U P R E M E

JOEY BELTRAM - tressor records, NYC
DEEP DISH BOYS - yoshi toshi records, DC
CARLOS - SF house movement
ROBERT ARMANI - dance mania, chicago
PROTOTYPE 909 - instinct records, nyc
JOHNNY FIASCO - relief/cajual records, chicago
SOULSLINGER - jungle sky music, nyc
TC ISLAM - zulu nation, nyc
GAVIN HARDKISS w/ TRIBAL DRUMMER SHAHEEN - hardkiss music, san fran
K. HAND - acacia records, detroit
ATOMIC BABIES - digital hut, nyc
DBX - 7th city, detroit
FEELGOOD - buzz/fever, baltimore
DJ EARTH - minneapolis
HYPERACTIVE - contact records, chicago
WILL WEBB - direct beat records, detroit
JASON MATTHEW - penetrate records, canada
REBEL KREW - herb life prod., houston, tx
SCORPION - koncrete jungle, nyc
LOVEGROVE - sonic soul, baltimore
JAY GOODWILL - god's house inc, delaware
JORDAN - fresno, california
MIKE FILLY - color blind tone deaf, cleveland
HESOHI - love thang, ups, akron
MELLOWMAN - ups, cincinnati 
PULSEERVER - ups, akron
JASON PATRICK - modern music, baltimore
X'IAN - cincinnati
KELL - no promo, lexington 
RAS ONE - ups, akron
JP SOUL - rom, buffalo, ny 
KEVIN - sunshine kids, pittsburgh
YOPU - g-force, akron
D.CYPOL - local 13, ups, philly
DOMINIC - thc, philly
LICK A SHOT - thc, philly
JOE KIDD - planet earth, ups
PERRY ELLIS - calico records, cinci
JOE TOTEN - goodvibe records, pittsburgh
YABETTE - ups, akron
SNYNAPSE - akron
WILHELM K - columns of knowledge, indy
BOB-A-DOB - clubhead records, cinci
DEW BEE - g-force, akron
D WRECK - cleveland
SUPER K - cleveland

Info & Support from:

OHIO
spawntaneous - 216.779.7188
justus crew - 513.496.4511
PLRM - 216.556.1485
astro kids - 513.229.8187

PENN
udg inc - 412.888.8712
THC - 215.518.1582

NYC
rom - 716.888.8712
g.p.a. - 716.888.8678
solar luv - 212.505.3025
digital hut - 718.390.6666

BALTIMORE
active ingredients - 410.347.1402
life productions - 410.418.0656

CONN
warped - 860.548.2263
swing kids - 203.921.1474

DELWARE   
united productions - 302.792.7307

TORONTO
alien visitation - 416.760.3132

CHICAGO 
core - 312.509.6334
ripe - 312.509.6453

INDIANA    
paranormal - 317.624.2930
columns of knowledge - 317.579.3031

NASHVILLE
bam - 615.780.3730

ATLANTA
satellite - 404.908.7308

ARIZONA 
kids under the carpet - 602.929.9168
planetary groove col. - 602.230.4147


PRE-PARTY
7.4.96 brought to you by LOVETHANG
celebrate the 4th with our family
as we prepare for a love festival supreme
(location will be 5 min. from reunion)
$25 presale tickets on sale at pre-party
for more info call LOVETHANG @ 330.214.8837

INTELLIGENT LIGHTING
Thunder & Lighting

TURBO-SOUND
SteveSound


PRE-SALE TICKETS
pre-sale tickets on sale June 4 are 
available at the following locations:

riff raff (akron) - 330.376.1644
clubhead records (cinci) - 513.665.9999
liquid sky (new york) - 212.343.0532
modern music (baltimore) - 410.675.2127

pre-sale ticket prices will be:
june 4 to june 12th - $20 
june 13 to july 4 - $25
day of show & at the gate - $30

BUS TRIPS
bus trips are already planned from the following
areas. please contact the promotor in your area. more
trips are being planned every week so stay tuned.
BALTIMORE - Life Productions - 410.347.1402
ARIZONA - Kids Under The Carpet - 602.929.9168
TORONTO - Alien Visitation - 416.760.3132
DELAWARE - Unified Productions - 302.792.7307
NEW JERSEY - Dos Collective/New Era - 908.418.0096

there is still space available for vending. if you are
interested in setting up a booth please contact 330.253.1784
for details.

live techno workshop, bring your own drum machines as well as
your drums and tables for a 21st century drum circle brought 
to you by LOVETHANG

artists of all kinds are welcomed and encouraged to take part
in the art extravaganza! those interested should call riff raff 
@ 330.376.1644

Family Affair II will be held on over 100 acres of campground
in northeastern ohio. This will be a 2 day 2 night music festival
camping is available and encouraged this event will take place 
rain or shine. come prepared! 

Thanks to all who helped, it wouldn't be a reunion without you

nuff respect to iriginal rasta man HAILLE SELAISSIE jah love

ALL PRAISE DUE GOD!

---

phew!

on now: east coast science: scott henry + dieselboy (thanx kell!)

---

miscellaneous silly stevie t trivia:

dan bell (DBX) & Linda Evangelista (supermodel) went to the same
highschool in detroit. to this day Linda still has no clue who dan
is & is making tons more money! just goes to show yah, looks will
get u more!

on the last day of the olympics all the participants from all the
countries make their final march, except they will all be dressed
in white. this act of unity & peace wus suggested to the olympic
commitee by a letter from a 17 year-old boy from China over 50
years ago.

---

i just luv wasting bandwidth especially by posting flyers that 
people have already posted =)


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stevie t        /  ___  \|  |     /   ____|/   v   \   
syt@po.cwru.edu|   _____/|  |____ |  |    |         |
216.556.1485___|__|______\_______||__|____|__|\_/|__|___________

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That kid who od'ed or whatever.. He was on K.. I was one of the "guys" 
who grabbed a leg on the way to my car to take a nap.. 

 *goes on her sXe kick* I'm sorry guys, but what i saw on SAt nite with 
that kid really scared me. He was in a "K-Hole".. Totally unaware of 
everything that was going on.. he looked like he was unconscious with his 
eyes open... it was really creepy...

 Please guys, make sure that if you're going to do drugs that you know 
your limits, and don't go beyond them.. and even if you know and stay 
within your limits, always always make sure you ahve a sober friend to 
watch after you, and make sure you're okay.. AND.. try to make sure you 
have a sober back-up ride home from parties... I don't want anyone else I 
know to get themselves dead.... I love you all way too much...

 Know yourself, know your limits, and stay within them, is all I ask...

 *gets off the mother kick now*

have a good one! I leave in 6 days!!

-Becky =)


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Any minneapolis people know what the heck's going on with this party??! 
It's on a wednesday. What the heck? I mean, should I go, and call in sick 
to two jobs the day after?  It sounds really cool, and Phantom 45 will be 
there, but it's on a wednesday! Why? Anyone know?

chris

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I don't have a nifty "I didn't write this!" message yet, but it's true.
I'm forwarding it to the list.

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>                    CALL FOR MORE INFO : 1-800-DEACTIV
>                                         1-800-SOUOPER
>                                         1-800-THERAVE
>                                         1-800-1KANSAS



                  (((( THIS IS THE REAL MUTHA FUCKA ))))


The infoline numbers are (surprise, surprise) bogus.  However, 1-800-DEACTIV
is a rather interesting number: a recorded voice says "Teletect Intercept
4301" and then there's a brief burst of weird noise which sounds like
encrypted data of some sort.  Does anyone know what this might be?

Also, 1-800-THERAVE is the same as 1-800-THERATE, which is some bank's
infoline.  No info on any raves, but you can find out how much a car loan
will cost you :-)

In any case, there was a DJ battle left out of the flyer:

Dylan Drazen vs. Oliver Wolf Schietenger



--Tim Horrigan <horrigan@aol.com>





From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 19 18:06:12 1996
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I have a question for you DJs out there. Bein a DJ seems to involve a
LOT of record handling. This would seem to put a lot of skin grease
all over the records. Not to mention that perspiration fog that must
condense on the records during a hot event. And finally, all the dirt
kicked up in to the air (the bring of Raver Boogers) settling on the
records. How do ya'all care for your vinyl? Do you clean them after every
gig? Do you uvinyl record preserver and/or lube? I'm just kinda curious
how you keep your tools of your trade in shape. :)

Ed/Cuisinart

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On 19 Jun 1996, Dave Walker wrote:

> Steven Y. Tsang continues his vendetta:
> 
> :Plus 8, a detroit lable, but he's from rochester,
> :new york (ack! sacreligious! who brought such an evil east coaster to our
> :holy parts!).
> 
> Well, actually, if you're going to be that nitpicky about things,
> +8 is a London, Ontario-based label.

Hehe.. and if you want to rope in another Nit-picker... he's from Windsor,
via Detroit, via UK.  I don't think he spent any time in rochester.

Tom
	- who brags about seeing Plastikman live! :P



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>ok guilty as charged i did miss part of Alison's opening set cuz christa had
>to pee. but i'll hafta admit the 1st coupla of records wuz the stuff i wuz
>waiting for all night - west coast beats that squeezed the dance outta yah.
>unfortunately after we got back & due to all the disturbing news christa had
>just found out we couldn't enjoy ourselves too much. but i will give props,
>i thought alison stole the set of the night. other surprises wuz kevy kev
>that spun some old skool hi-nrg muzik & kell that spun the trance that did
>exactly that - put me in a trance. i found myself standing by myself catatonic
>absorbing all the mesmerizing grooves. i think near the end both christa & i
>were too dead to move very much (perhaps i should've taken those mini-thins
>u offered me, trouty) since we both had gotten up early that morning to work
>and i had driven almost five hours that day, so we retired in my car & took
>a much needed nap.

GEEZ STEVE...!!!  You REALLY musta needed that nap... and those mini-thins
musta really tweaked you into another galaxy... (or maybe a parallel
Universe)  Cuz from my well rested position behind Alison, she was spinning
really funky-trancy house records... not a single break much to my relief
(I didn't want to be competing with her for records).

And I think you musta already been in a trance cuz I spun Breaks that
night.. :)  Not trance as I had planned if Alison had spun all my
records... :)  Next time get some sleep dude... I'll start worrying about
you... ;)  If Phunky Breaks and Old School Electro are trancing you out...
it's nap time... hee hee...


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dj Kell                                           Sound- 606.268.9843
Lexington, Kentucky                       Alpha-Numeric- kdpoll1@pop.uky.edu
Baltimore, Maryland                               Beeps- 606.385-1246

____________________________________________________________________________
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In a message dated 96-06-19 02:40:13 EDT, you write:

>no ofence to the westcoast,but from what iver heard ..the csocal scene has
>is shitty,

we all have out own opinions. but.....

>but what do i know i have never bee west of chicago.
Yeah....exactly. 


With utmost respect,
Allyson


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FRIDAY JUNE 21

PURE-X

**ALL PROCEEDS GO TO THE ANTI-CRUELTY SOCIETY***

lineup:

SNUGGLES & SLAK (strictly jungle / massive magazine)
DJ CASPER (jungle roots, boston / strictly jungle / massive magazine)
DJ 3D (uptempo dance)
DJ PHIL (free art / massive magazine)
HUGO MOYA (hps)
ZVI (ascii)
and more....

phone #s 312.550.1643  847.604.0579


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From: Mike Wasisco - Synet <mikew@g30.synet.net>
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Subject: new web issue of thousand words
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hey. its online now (finally).

www.thousandwords.com

check it.

-mike

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CONSPIRACY

Saturday June 22, 1996

KINGSIZE (Columbus, OH)
CALCULATOR
3D
ZVI
FELIX STONE
SNUGGLES & SLAK
ETERNAL SOUL
KID ENTROPY

312.432.0668
847.604.0579
312.409.7700

www.rollin.com

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HI...I am not sure if anyone would know this but it sure as does pertain
to Chicago and Indy ravers.....I am working for the registration dept.
this summer on campus(I.U.) and this girl came into register....she was
really cool and all that and as a raver I could spot her a mile away...
anyway...she had purple hair and she was about 5'9" or taller...I don't
know I was sitting down at the time....she told me she goes to Chi town
and Indy alot so I was wondering if anyone could tell me if they know her
or what....her name is Marianne....and she was super nice...possibly
she was oging to go to clear this weekend.....I don't know...it would
be cool if anyone did know her....

Liq.



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	   michael l. grimes.......liquid pleasure......liqplesr
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Man, this was just a sad, sad night.  Only a few people showed up for
reFRESHed. Maybe 10 or 15 at the max.  And then to make things worse, I
kept landing on my ankle when I danced :(.  And to make things even worse
than that, EVERYBODY left when clinton started spinning gabber.  What a
bunch of wusses (dontcha love that word?) I mean, I laughed for a minuete
when 6 people left during the first track. But it made me feel really bad
the more I thought about it. And apparently this was the last one.  So
anyone who missed this, you missed it.  

But there were some cool things that happened along the way- for one, John
C. (DJ Dove) spun in front of people for the first time, and did GREAT!
Cool track selection and he just did a great job.  And I can operate
lights now! Wel, as long as all you want is fog and strobes, that is. And
I met a few people too.  

Man, sometimes I think the minneapolis scene really sucks.  Especially
when I think of how many people will be at mac street 2 this weekend.
Grr.... (I'll be there, so yes, I __AM__ being a hipocrite)

still wondering why safari is on a wednesday (and will it do any better
than reFRESHed?),

chris e


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>CONSPIRACY
>
>Saturday June 22, 1996
>
>KINGSIZE (Columbus, OH)
>CALCULATOR
>3D
>ZVI
>FELIX STONE
>SNUGGLES & SLAK
>ETERNAL SOUL
>KID ENTROPY
>
>312.432.0668
>847.604.0579
>312.409.7700
>
>www.rollin.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

i would suggest to any jungle peps to check this sight out. it rather nice
sight it also has a link to the CHILL ROOM> a  jungle chat (telent to
--->www.rollin.com 1900<----)

i havnt seen anyone ther yet, buti hope it  going soon.
i also dont think that many ppl know aboutit tho.
simple



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 19 23:18:53 1996
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The sex letter pisses me off for two reasons:
1.  I've seen it way too many times before, and it wasn't very funny the 
first time, and
2.  It has nothing to do with mw-raves!

...so, instead of just complaining, I've made my own, first draft, response 
version... 
...distribute it to all of yer ravin' buddies, 'cause here comes...
____________________________________
 THE GOOD-LUCK RAVER'S CHAIN LETTER!
------------------------------------
"With Raves All Things Are Possible"

This message has been sent to you for good luck.  So far, it has traveled 
the world 69 times [Dear Reader: please help keep this count current. If
>this letter falls into your hands after just completing one
>more circuit of the world, please add one to the count.]  This is your only 
chance to get the luck- so you'd better act fast.

Provided that you send it on, you will experience an incredible party within 
four days of receiving this letter.  Since the copy must tour the world, you 
must make ten copies and send them to others.  This is no joke. Send no 
money. Send copies to people who need to have a brain-blowing party within 
96 hours. 

After he passed this letter on, Joe R. Aver of Gnome, Alaska was 
mysteriously teleported to Germany for the '96 Mayday rave, and returned 
home, exhausted, without any time having elapsed.  Peter Bilt woke up with 
two 1200s unexpectedly hooked up to his stereo, knowledge of DJing skills 
somehow implanted in his brain, and bookings for the next three months for 
parties around the midwest.  Merry Tullan was abducted by aliens a week 
after passing this letter to 10 of his friends, beamed up to the TechnoFunk 
Mothership, and has been partying ever since.  Bob Dole failed to pass on 
his letter, and had to resign his Senate seat in disgrace.

The day after Frankie Bones passed on his copy of the letter, he was 
inspired to take the scene to NYC and hold the Storm Raves, which put him 
down forever as the American Old Skool Godfather.  John F. Kennedy, a 
little-known raver, accidentally threw away his copy of the letter and was 
shot repeatedly a few days later while taking a ride with his wife.  Ludwig 
Van Beethoven, who had attended Love Parade in Europe for his whole life, 
was struck deaf after neglecting to pass on this letter and started 
composing classical music instead of trance.

Jerry Atric made and sent 10 copies of his letter, went to a rave the next 
night in Chicago, and was given a hit of acid from a black-cloaked stranger 
that expanded his mind by 300%.  The aspiring DJ Ikoek blew off the letter, 
and dropped his record collection into a puddle of drying cement on his way 
to a party six days later.  However, when he remembered to send it, his 
annoying great-uncle died, leaving him the third largest vinyl collection in 
the midwest as an inheritance.  A week after transmitting ten copies of 
their letters, the Molecular Substance Brothers went platinum with their 
smash hit, Leave Earth Lint.  Small T. Imepromoter had his party busted by 
cops two hours after starting when he forgot to send out his letter, and was 
sentenced to execution in Texas.  

You must distribute at least ten copies within 96 hours of receiving this 
letter.  Those who do will find their rave lives more fulfilling.  Those who 
do not will die young, unhappy, and alone.


Well, that's it folks!  Hope all 'o' yuz liked it... I'd add more, but I'm 
falling asleep; if you have any ideas, add them and re-post (I'll do the 
same, maybe.)

Peace; Ben out.
         ((((@@@####**------ Ben Wikler ------**####@@@))))
                     !%%~~~--- PLUR --~~~%%!

          ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
   ++++ if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig ++++
++++ more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ++++



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CONSPIRACY

KINGSIZE
CALCULATOR
3D
ZVI
FELIX STONE
SNUGGLES & SLAK
ETERNAL SOUL
KID ENTROPY

ASCII 312-432-0668

www.rollin.com


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>I have two words for y'all - Lois & Nutz.
>
>'Nuff fuckin' said.
>
>earache

i think i need a clue here as i have no idea what lois & nuts means...must
be a minneapolis thing. i'm guessing maybe this promoter sucks ass? btw the
only reason i posted this was cause someone was asking me about it on vrave.
frankly the fact that there are only 7 djs on this huge flyer (3 of which
are from mpls) makes me think i would never go to this party even if i did
live in mpls. anyway, lois & nuts - is this a superman porno i haven't heard
about?

-kc


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ok i wrote that e-flyer up this afternoon but wasn't online so the when i
checked my mail just now it was sent automatically and then i saw that
someone else had posted it and yeah i'm dumb.

-kc


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>someone else had posted it and yeah i'm dumb.

yeah we know ;)

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MASSIVE MAGAZINE and MJ-12

entertain you with:

NORTH    JULY 6 1996   S.E. WISCONSIN

ROOM ONE
<<a large wooden barn with cathedral ceilings>>

11-12  MR. BILL  MILWAUKEE
      <dropping old school to start the night right>>
12-1 DJ BRAIN  MILWAUKEE
      <placing corridors of trance to set your course>>
1 - 2 DOORMOUSE  MASSIVE MILWAUKEE
       <<picking up the pace towards his full on assault>>
2 -2.5 BUNKER SEVEN  live performance  TORONTO
       <<jimmi hendrix rises again for the final deathride>>
2.5-3.5 DECYPHER  NEW YORK
       <<this big city boy brings us back with the hard acid>>
3.5-4.5 BLOTTO  TORONTO
       <<a techno drumn'bass halfbreed spews from this canuck>>
4.5-5.5 HENRY VENGEANCE  MASSIVE NEW YORK
       <<massive boy dedicates his slot to hardchicagoacidhouse>>
5.5 - 7 DJ SUN  BALTIMORE
       <<1.5 hours of the housy breaks from the best in the business>>
7 - .... MINDRIVE  MADISON
       <<carries the torch into a sunlit orgasmic funkorama>>

if you're still kicking after chad finishes, we'll keep it going until you pass out      or 
die.

and if the music in room one ain't yer style....

ROOM TWO  Presented by EROS MILWAUKEE
<<huge combine shed with cement floor and space to move>>
<<<all dj's are straight up house with a twist of lemon, unless otherwise noted>>>
10 - 11  DJ DREW  MILWAUKEE
       <<honorary 'first dj of the night' come early>>
11 - 12  WONDERBOY  MINNEAPOLIS
       <<making a list and checking it twice>>
12 - 1  ENTROPY  MILWAUKEE
       <<if you missed his furthur set- kickin' trance awaits>>
1 - 2  D-ON  MILWAUKEE
       <<while the evil roars in room one, funky refuge is here>>
2 - 3  DMF  CHICAGO
       <<eros aims to please by delivering the bump>>
3 - 4  STEVEN KAYE MILWAUKEE
       <<after his show at WMSE you will follow him here>>
4 - 5  SYNERGY  MASSIVE MILWAUKEE
       <<another massiveman appears to educate your ass>>
5 - 6.5 <<TAGTEAM>>  TIM KROCHALK + JEFFREY DEE  MILWAUKEE
       <<dance or just watch, thou shall be entertained>>
6.5 - 7 DARREN of SYNTHETIC  live performance  MILWAUKEE
       <<intense trance performance that will floor you>>
7 - ... DJ ACETATE  CHICAGO
       <<closing out the morning? not if we can help it>>

..and if dancing to appealing beat orientated stuff is just too damn weird for you....

ROOM THREE  Presented by MASSIVE MAGAZINE and REV. RACKME
<<a constucted shanty in the grass filled with couches, candles, and the scariest dark 
ambient, noisecore, pink floyd and led zepplin records, and any thing else as unravey as 
possible.  no hippies allowed.  lysergics not suggested.  we guarentee that no children will 
be conceived in this area, lest you want a rehash of freddie krueger movies staight into the 
year 2012>>

NORTH is an experiment.  YOU are the labmouse.


NORTH will be $13 with a canned food donation or if you're wearing a massive tee.  $15 to 
anyone who can't get cool enough to own a massive tee or steal creamed corn from their 
parents' cupboards.

NORTH will likely have two mappoints:  one for Milwaukee/Chicago area people, and another 
for anyone coming from the West Bend, Fond du Lac, Appleton, Oshkosh, Green Bay, Madison, 
and Minneapolis areas.

Presale tickets are $13.  A FREE Oliver Lieb/ Spicelab CD will be given to the first 35 
PAIRS of tickets purchased.  For more information, email Massive (massive@mixcom.com) or 
send a money order to:

MASSIVE
attn: NORTH PRESALE
POBOX 11373
MILWAUKEE, WI 53211

A store will be chosen this week where presale tickets can be bought in Milwaukee.  Call the 
voicemail or email massive for updated details.

VOICEMAILS:
414.777.EXTC  MASSIVE MILWAUKEE
312.604.1899  MASSIVE CHICAGO
414.985.3117  MJ12 FDL
              www.superfreak.com/massive
       

watch out for the next experiment:
MONSTERS OF ROCK- a party in a quarry.

MJ12 + MASSIVE = RURAL TECHNO SATISFACTION

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 20 05:32:32 1996
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I asked this question of the list a long while ago, and didn't get much 
of an answer.

When it comes to record care, I dont do much.  Clean them when they get 
nappy (lots o prints and all) and that is about it.

Check out 'signet' record cleaning fluid if you can find it. I t is 
pretty good, better than discwasher.  :)

Any other input folx?

*~cosmic~~~

On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Ed Jones wrote:

> I have a question for you DJs out there. Bein a DJ seems to involve a
> LOT of record handling. This would seem to put a lot of skin grease
> all over the records. Not to mention that perspiration fog that must
> condense on the records during a hot event. And finally, all the dirt
> kicked up in to the air (the bring of Raver Boogers) settling on the
> records. How do ya'all care for your vinyl? Do you clean them after every
> gig? Do you uvinyl record preserver and/or lube? I'm just kinda curious
> how you keep your tools of your trade in shape. :)
> 
> Ed/Cuisinart
> 

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Hi Clinton and the rest of the reFRESHed crew.  Sorry I never made it out 
there.  Been really busy w/work--having to get up too early to be out late.  
Even though it wasn't successful you all should be proud that you tried!!!  
See you soon (not at Mac St. tho)  Bye!!!

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Man, this was just a sad, sad night.  Only a few people showed up for
reFRESHed. Maybe 10 or 15 at the max.  And then to make things worse, I
kept landing on my ankle when I danced :(.  And to make things even worse
than that, EVERYBODY left when clinton started spinning gabber.  What a
bunch of wusses (dontcha love that word?) I mean, I laughed for a minuete
when 6 people left during the first track. But it made me feel really bad
the more I thought about it. And apparently this was the last one.  So
anyone who missed this, you missed it.  

But there were some cool things that happened along the way- for one, John
C. (DJ Dove) spun in front of people for the first time, and did GREAT!
Cool track selection and he just did a great job.  And I can operate
lights now! Wel, as long as all you want is fog and strobes, that is. And
I met a few people too.  

Man, sometimes I think the minneapolis scene really sucks.  Especially
when I think of how many people will be at mac street 2 this weekend.
Grr.... (I'll be there, so yes, I __AM__ being a hipocrite)

still wondering why safari is on a wednesday (and will it do any better
than reFRESHed?),

chris e



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From: 	mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com on behalf of Ben Wikler
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The sex letter pisses me off for two reasons:
1.  I've seen it way too many times before, and it wasn't very funny the 
first time, and
2.  It has nothing to do with mw-raves!

...so, instead of just complaining, I've made my own, first draft, response 
version... 
 

Ben--I am terribly sorry to have pissed you off!!  I'm new to the "net" and I 
never saw this before.  I'm also kinda super-sticious (spelling?)!!  Anyway, I 
liked your version so I sent that to dcraves!!!  hehehe.  I'll let you know if 
it gets any responses!!!

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ed wrote:

>I have a question for you DJs out there. Bein a DJ seems to involve a
>LOT of record handling. This would seem to put a lot of skin grease
>all over the records. Not to mention that perspiration fog that must
>condense on the records during a hot event. And finally, all the dirt
>kicked up in to the air (the bring of Raver Boogers) settling on the
>records. How do ya'all care for your vinyl? Do you clean them after every
>gig? Do you uvinyl record preserver and/or lube? I'm just kinda curious
>how you keep your tools of your trade in shape. :)
>
>Ed/Cuisinart

the answer is...   for a large part, you dont.

fact is -  if you take the time to be anal about your vinyl, there isn't
much room left for trickery. when i dj i throw my wax into a 'discard pile'
in the hood of my record case ( the ULTIMATE SIN ).

playing your shit out will ruin the integrety off your grooves - just not
usually to the level you'd notice in a 'big sound system' / 'rave
environment'.

the best way to repair the damage i learned from this old dude that owns a
used record shop here called ( appropiately enough ) 'gold mine' in
columbus. every record i've ever picked up there sounds brand fuckin new -
no matter HOW OLD it is.

HIS SECRET? ok - you take an old t-shirt ( 100% cotton is a necessity, )
tear off a section about three times as big as a regular kitchen sponge.
lay out the rest flat and lay your wax on it. wet the torn off piece with
WATER ONLY - tap usually ok, distilled is better and fold it into a good
size for your hand. wet down the vinyl pretty thoroughly, and rub in
CIRCULAR ( kinda hard ) until the water has mostly evaporated. dry the top
with another piece of t-shirt and your done...

i KNOW it sounds TO simple to REALLY work, but believe me IT DOES. i've
been cleaning my shit this way for about 3 years now and some of my dusty
krustyz have never sounded better.

there ya go.

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tribe baby.

talk/e at ya soon.
Kev.

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stevie wrote:

>ok guilty as charged i did miss part of Alison's opening set cuz christa had
>to pee. but i'll hafta admit the 1st coupla of records wuz the stuff i wuz
>waiting for all night - west coast beats that squeezed the dance outta yah.
>unfortunately after we got back & due to all the disturbing news christa had
>just found out we couldn't enjoy ourselves too much. but i will give props,
>i thought alison stole the set of the night. other surprises wuz kevy kev
>that spun some old skool hi-nrg muzik & kell that spun the trance that did
>exactly that - put me in a trance. i found myself standing by myself catatonic
>absorbing all the mesmerizing grooves. i think near the end both christa & i
>were too dead to move very much (perhaps i should've taken those mini-thins
>u offered me, trouty) since we both had gotten up early that morning to work
>and i had driven almost five hours that day, so we retired in my car & took
>a much needed nap.


stever -

kell is right... get a nap brutha. "hi-nrg muzik"??? i was spinning jungle
and hard step. MAAAAAYBE a few old skool breakbeat records. and definetly
old skool mixing style but no hi-nrg. we'll leave the 'communards' rekkids
to
DJ EZ CHEESE. ( remember THAT guy thome tomato fans? )

see ya. ( oh and becky - dont HURT that german guy on honeymoon night! ;>... )

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tribe baby.

still DIRTY from the gig.
dj kevy kev

http://www.kg2-graphix.com



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I'll post a full follow-up on the party later today.

> From: syt@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven Y. Tsang)
> the ironic part is the 
> whole time i wuz there i wuz hoping to see of all people - thome tomato. i had
> a surprise meeting w/ him @ FA, but haven't seen him since. i know alot of kids
> down south hate his guts. but y'gotta admit the guy did get the southern ohio
> scene going. and in light of all the shit talk surrounding the illuminators,
> one would finally see all the BS all promotors have to go thru. and as bad as
> mr. Tomato wuz i still think alot of it wuz just that - shit talk

I'm not going to say anything in particular about him since he's not
here to defend himself and has been more or less laying low for the last
couple years (did he throw any parties after those dinosaur-themed
events in Louisville?), but I will say that even though Thome Tomato did
indeed do a lot for Cincinnati in 1992, I didn't hear much hearsay about
him at the time that wasn't later substantiated.  I know there are
people on the list who spun/worked for him and would probably have quite
a bit to say on the subject.  But you're right, unless you were there,
talk is just that.. talk.

someone else wrote:
> Okay as for the music in the main room.  The first thing I want to say: to
> those people who left before DJ Alison spun...I am soooo sorry...you pretty
> much missed the whole point of that party.  HUGE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE
> CENTURY>>>she rocked my world..and a half.  She was ALL that and a bag of
> chips...including the salsa.  Ya dig?  This girl brought that incredible west
> coast flava into the house and completely hypnotized everyone with the great
> vibe and energy she released through her set.  It was amazing and anyone who 

Indeed.  Alison is one of the best house DJs I have heard.  Deep, deep,
deep stuff, mixed as tight as you can take it.  I hope she gets more
midwest gigs because there's no one around who spins her style.  She has
awesome taste in music.. yeah it was "west coast", sorta, but not the
typical SF sound that rubs a lot of midwesterners the wrong way.  She
works at a record store, Beat Non Stop, and they do mail order, so if
you're interested in contacting her for records (or bookings!) drop me a
line and I'll get you her email addy and work number.

Becky wrote:
> That kid who od'ed or whatever.. He was on K.. I was one of the "guys" 
> who grabbed a leg on the way to my car to take a nap.. 

I don't think anyone knows for sure what the kid we carried had in him
except the kid himself, and maybe the friend who drove him to the
hospital. His behavior was consistent with what you called being in a
"K-Hole", but you shouldn't authoritatively say what he took unless you
know something we don't.  It's possible that he didn't OD on K but had a
bad reaction to something else. (Though odds are he had in fact been
stupid and took too much of something).  Physically he was not doing too
badly.. his pulse was normal, he was breathing and able to swallow.  But
man, he was GONE.  I've got a nice long rant about this in the followup. 

Stevie wrote:
> :Plus 8, a detroit lable, but he's from rochester,
> :new york (ack! sacreligious! who brought such an evil east coaster to our
> :holy parts!).

Dave Walker (who should know!) replied: 
> Well, actually, if you're going to be that nitpicky about things,
> +8 is a London, Ontario-based label.

Tom Robbs then said:
>Hehe.. and if you want to rope in another Nit-picker... he's from
>Windsor, via Detroit, via UK.  I don't think he spent any time in
>rochester.

Tom, I think you're confused.  We're talking about recording artist Mark
Gage, who does in fact reside in Rochester, NY.  He released his
mega-hit single "Gravitational Arch of 10" twice on the Plus 8 label,
which is based in London, Ontario.  You're talking about Richie Hawtin.

Mike

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Actually, 
I think the thing that Earache was trying to get across about this party 
is that it is the same night the KISS reunion will be in town.  I think 
the Nuts and Lois thing is that Lois was mentioning how nuts you'd be to 
miss KISS and go to a rave.

-Xavier

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On 19 Jun 96 at 16:31, Steven Y. Tsang wrote:

> wuz i had told charles how nice he looked in his shirt & tie (hmmm could
> star or myself inspired this?) 


no comment on how it was inspired, but i have full intentions of seeing 
your shirt and tie and raising you one TUXEDO at forever in lexington next 
weekend ;D

and does spinning in a shirt and tie (and pocket protector, incidentally) 
count if it's done on the radio?  i mean, it's *almost* the same thing, 
right?


		=P



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kevy kev wrote:

> the answer is...   for a large part, you dont.
> 
> fact is -  if you take the time to be anal about your vinyl, there isn't
> much room left for trickery. when i dj i throw my wax into a 'discard pile'
> in the hood of my record case ( the ULTIMATE SIN ).
> 

You sound just like me. :)  I end up with a pile of records when I'm 
done. :)
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> the Nuts and Lois thing is that Lois was mentioning how nuts you'd be to 
> miss KISS and go to a rave.

When I was 8 I got a kiss 2x12" which was played on the stereo and blasted
out the window, just to annoy the neighbors.  Of course that album pack
was later used as a frisby.  Now I regret throwing it away.  Another
reunion eh?  Well, maybe them clothes will come back in force.  Homeboy
Relate said that it was pickin up in Philly, so I'm sure it'll hit the
dead center eventually.
If you have knowledge of where to get sneaker platforms, do pass along the
info this way.  There just too god damn funky.
Oh, I still want to shoot lasers out of my eyes.  My own light show.
Craziness.




Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi


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the 2nd room used to be a place where you could hear different kinds of 
music...where you could relax _or_ dance if you wanted to.  but that kind 
of 2nd room has been dead in the mw for some time now.  it's all about 
the driving beats now...while more atmospheric/mental music is scarcely 
even heard at events anymore.

there's a lot of reasons for this.  for example, slower, ambient, chill,
acid-jazz, trip-hop, and experimental stuff is often described as "boring"
music...having no drive, no real "kick."  i say they're wrong...you just
have to work to find the groove.  it's not passive music, it just asks you
to interact with it in deeper ways, that's all. 

but another reason for the death of the kind of 2nd room i'm talking about
is because of the new proliferation of the "dance music" dj.  everyone and
their brother wants to be in the spotlight and match beats now.  everybody
wants to prove they can spin and play the stuff with the driving beats. 
what better place to take over than to kick those "ambient" djs off
the tables in the second room...coz after all, they can't _really_ spin
can they? 

wrong.  many of them can, and most of that music has beats anyway but no 
one gives these djs props because they're not trying to get people to 
dance like maniacs, they just want people to groove real nice and gradual to 
their music.  and even when there's no beats at all, it takes a lot of 
effort to create an atmospheric set that flows, yet these djs get even 
_less_ recognition.

the point is, i miss having this kind of room ("chill-out" is what they
used to call it).  i miss being able to have a place where you can rest
your mind, where your soul and body can be soothed or taken on a mental or
physical journey without necessarily pushing you along with hard, boomin
beats.  i like to be lulled along by softer rhythms sometimes (like miles
maeda and mark farina)...i think you all know what i mean.   i think many 
of you would agree, even.

so anyway, i'm doing something about it.  this friday i've designed an
event which is supposed to sort of feel like a chill-out room but is also
meant for dancing.  an "atmospheric" event (for lack of a better term). an
event designed to prove that so-called "passive" music is not passive at
all, but very "active" indeed. 

and in these times of huge, mindblowing, $20 events almost every weekend,
this is a $4 event meant for the mind _and_ body...a chance to purify
yourself & take a breather.  a chance to participate on many levels, to be
an active participant, not just a passive spectator (hence the name)... 

if you're into this, let me know (even if you cant make it).  i need all
the encouragement i can get.  if i feel like it's worth it, i'll keep
trying to get this sort of thing together.  in other words, ARE YA WITH
ME?!?! 

oh yah...if you _are_ coming, bring soft stuff (cushions, pillows, 
blankets, etc... :)

(event flyer follows)
++
e d

**

the liberation of sound continues...

fri 21 jun 96 columbus ohio
______________________________________________________________ 
____________________________________________active:not:passive


           an atmospheric event to celebrate the summer solstice


time: sunset (9.04 PM) to sunrise (6.03 AM) and beyond...

cost: $4 (covers sound, dj expenses, and that nice flyer)

location: ives hall, OSU campus 
(directions at the end of this post)

in order of appearance:
                    9.04 PM - 10.00 PM :
                 dreamcycle : ambient drones by todd gys
                            :
                   10.00 PM - 11.00 PM :
                 full brain : music to feed the mind by mike brown
                            :
                   11.00 PM - 11.30 PM :
                      lunar : short experimental set by edward luna
                            :
                   11.30 PM - 12.30 AM :
a.mbience r.ecovery s.ystem : live electronic improvisations 
                              by todd sines & charles noel
                            :
                   12.30 AM - 1.20 AM :
                       gaga : live tribal/ambient/noise/space performance
                            :
                    1.20 AM - 2.10 AM :
                  m/c/jones : old skool protofunk by chris jones
                            :
                    2.10 AM - 3.30 AM : 
            brian gillespie : detroit's soul/jazz/funk/partyman
                            :
                    3.30 AM - 4.00 AM :
           titonton duvante : short experimental techno set
                            :
                    4.00 AM - 4.40 AM :
                  midi slut : rhythms & test tones by mike poe
                            :
                    4.40 AM - 5.20 AM : 
                   timbient : muncie's ambient music explorer
                            :
                    5.20 AM - 6:00 AM :
                 count zero : pennsylvania's chill-out master
                            :
                    6:00 AM - ?
                 dreamcycle : (2nd set) ending the cycle of music
                            :
                            :
                            V

       low-tek visuals and interactive enhancements by RAMos & valiera
                           pillows, blankets, and cushions encouraged
                mind-expanding and welcome atmosphere provided by YOU

ele_mental project 96 continues

flyer viewable at http://coil.com/~eluna/what.will.be.html
email: <eluna@coil.com>
table of ele_ments voicemail: 614.470.0929

**

directions:

- from the N:

take I-71 S to columbus, to the hudson st exit (exit 112 i think), take a
RIGHT.  

go 1 mile west to HIGH ST, take a LEFT.  go south on high st for 1 mile
then take a RIGHT on WOODRUFF (look for a wendy's on the left).  take
woodruff west for 2 lights and look for NEIL AVE, take a LEFT there and
look immediatley for IVES HALL on the right.  park at the parking garage
(which will be free, just take a ticket if need be). 

- from the S:

take 71 N to hudson st exit, take a LEFT and follow as above.

- from the E or W:

take 70 to 71 N, up to hudson st exit, take a LEFT and follow as from N.

hope to see you there.
++
e d

coil.com/~eluna/ele_mental.html




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CHARM follow-up

First I want to thank everyone who came out for CHARM.  I don't
have an exact figure yet, but attendance was a little over 300.
We needed over 630 to officially break even.  Realistically, we
were hoping for attendance around 500.  Doh

A little about the budget: A very generous former MW-R**er had
invested in the party ahead of time, allowing us to make sure
the DJs and Mark Gage were paid regardless of how much was
collected at the door.  Cash collected at the door paid for the
sound and space, and a few other expenses that had come up, and
in the end we lost a few hundred out of our own pockets, not
counting what is owed the investor, with whom we had already
arranged to pay as we go during the coming months.

To anyone thinking of throwing their own parties, I can't
impress upon you strongly enough that next to safety, the most
important thing to plan ahead of time is how you're going to
pay everyone.  You have to be prepared for anything, including
not being able to have the party at all.  Ed Luna alluded to a
situation where a former Dayton resident skipped town without
paying a number of people, including the Illuminators, for
their services at a party he was responsible for.  Now anyone
who knows very much about that incident knows what kind of
trouble coming up short on debts will cause.  If you are
thinking about promoting, make *sure* you are not risking more
than you can afford to lose.  Think about why you are throwing
the party and who & what you are really trying to support.  If
you promise money to someone, have a way to pay it no matter
what.

Plan the budget in advance, and if there is a chance that you
won't be able to pay someone, let them know in advance exactly
what the situation is and make arrangements with them on how
the situation will be handled if you come up short, and then
follow through on your promises.  Actually, I didn't follow
through as well as I should have with my longtime friend Tony
Ramos of the ele_mental crew, who set up the video equipment,
waited on my ass at the space for an hour, paid for dinner for
3 people, lost an extension cord, found his favorite records
all warped out in his hot car, had to drive back to Columbus
nearly comatose, and only got gas money out of me before he
left.  More money is on the way to him now, but I should
planned ahead a little better and paid him what he was worth on
the night of the party, and for that I publicly apologize.

I'd also like to apologize for the quality of the environment.
We definitely did not get what we had planned.  The main
problem was the space -- we were under the impression all the
way up to the day of the party that we were going to be using a
different warehouse bulding in that complex.  The space was
supposed to be about half as big, and more interesting.  The
sound and lighting would have obviously been much more
effective in a smaller room.  Since we were already $600 over
budget it was decided to make do with what we had rather than
raise the price of admission.  We were hoping to give people a
$15 party for $5, but I think we ended up giving people a $5
party for $5.

I was very happy to see the vibe pick up later in the evening.
If you left early, you missed the best parts.  Alison --there
is only one 'l' in her name, by the way-- spun the most
incredible set!  It was so refreshing to hear new, very deep
house that wasn't coming from the same old revolving pool of
familiar midwestern DJs.  Everyone who was paying attention,
including Mark Gage, was blown away by how tightly and
effectively she mixed.

Promoters, *book Alison*, and book more female DJs!  Tamara
Palmer spun for the first people coming in the door, and her
set rocked as well.  Both Alison and Tamara were playing very
interesting promos and records you can't find around here, or
at *all* in the case of at least one awesome record Tamara
played.  There was one bad thing, which was entirely my fault:
Alison wasn't behind the tables when she was announced, and
other DJs had to scramble to fill in for her until we got her
in there.

One of the DJs, Monochrome, had to make some false starts
before finally being relegated to the second room.  Had we not
started so late, and had I not messed up in getting Alison
behind the decks immediately after Mark Gage performed,
Monochrome would have spun in the main room at a reasonable
time.  Luckily he was very understanding, and as posted, ended
up earning his pay spinning a great set (does he have a
traveling fan club or what?!) in the second room.

I was not happy to have to carry out a local who had either
overdosed or had had a bad reaction to something he had taken
(we're speculating it was Ketamine).  He apparently had climbed
a barbed-wire fence and cut his arm, almost got hit by a train,
and ran around in circles for a while in an adjacent parking
lot before someone finally reeled him in.  Then he was drifting
in and out of consciousness while we searched for someone who
knew him and could get him to a hospital.  The warehouse owner
was very upset with us for our "lack of compassion", but there
was not a lot that we could do short of calling an ambulance or
carrying him out ourselves, which we were about to do when a
sober friend of his finally showed up to take care of him.  He
was doing alright physically; his pulse was fine and he was
breathing and swallowing, but he was really out of his head.
Lesson learned; we should have arranged for an EMT to be at the
party, and his friend should have kept a better eye on him.
People get annoyed with us for being "anti-drug" but really,
think about it.  Why should we be put in the position of having
to deal with shit like that?  People who come to parties to
either deal drugs or get completely f'd up on them are putting
a huge burden on us, the promoters.  I don't just want my party
to not get busted, I also don't want anyone to *die*, you know?

Rant time:  People think they are only putting themselves at
risk when they sell or over-indulge in substances at parties,
but in reality they are placing the promoters and the entire
'scene' at risk.  It is amazing how few lessons have been
learned from the regions where drug dealing and overdoses have
brought massive negative publicity, DEA/FBI/local
investigations, arrests, party busts and ravers being rushed to
the hospital.  Dayton has been very lucky for not having to
deal with very much of this crap, but now that I personally
have had to haul someone's unconscious and most likely
irresponsible stupid ass out of my party, I'm taking a much
more cynical view of it.  If your wack self wants to buy, sell,
or get completely out of your head on illicit substances, don't
come anywhere near an Illuminator party.  That's not what we're
about and we're not going to get our scene shut down over it.
If you're a promoter selling at your own party, cut that shit
out right now, because I guarantee you it's only a matter of
time before you "hit the wall," as someone else posted.  And
when that happens, everyone else suffers, because the cops
really don't care to differentiate between the "good" and "bad"
promoters.. they'd rather bust *all* our asses... and that's no
exaggeration.

Alright, now that I've got that out of my system...

Vapourspace finally got to perform in Dayton.  He had a great
time at the party and gave a terrific *live* performance.
Every sound you heard was being sequenced, played, and tweaked
on the spot by the man on the stage.  I was disappointed to
hear that some people were complaining that his music wasn't
"driving" enough.. apparently there was a problem with lack of
bass coming over the mains, but even so, some people thought
that Mark Gage's music was supposed to be pounding a 4 on the
floor beat from start to finish.  Whatever!  (Let's listen to
what people say about his live shows when he's got a new album
out and there is a 'buzz' about his music.. bet there will be
no complaints then...)  Call me crazy, but I'll take Mark Gage
doing his brand of live techno for the mind any day over Union
Jack's, um, "P.A."

There were several unscheduled or rescheduled DJs who got to
spin in the second room.  I don't know who they all were, but I
know Cylert, Divine, Monochrome, Luscious Dan Smack, and maybe
Trepp, Damon, Spinboy and a couple others all got some time in.
I feel bad about how we had to start so late.  We didn't get to
really showcase the DJs and Mark Gage the way we would have
liked.  Hardly anyone got to hear Tamara or Luscious Dan Smack
spin, and they were great.

As with all our parties, a lot of people volunteered their time
and energy to help without being promised to get paid.  The
warehouse was a shambles before Ben (Cylert), Becky, Katerina,
Karla, Becca, Arash, and probably some other people spent all
day sweeping 2 inches of dirt off the floors and moving things
out of the way.  Their efforts did not go unnoticed.  And
believe it or not, that place was actually up to code.
Emergency exits were marked, there were sprinklers, emergency
lighting, and fire extinguishers by every door.

As Ben posted, at every party there are always all these little
things that go wrong and distract the promoters from being as
personable as they'd like.  Like at the time the doors were to
open, we discovered that no one had arranged for an amp in the
second room, and there was no power in there, either.  Luckily,
our sound guy, Paul, is an electrician; he rewired a breaker
box so we could have power in the second room, and he went out
and got us a second amp.  Sean Rose (Get Smart) had a power
strip that blew out and took one of our strobes with it, and it
took forever to figure out the problem.  The warehouse was so
dirty we couldn't hang the parachutes we wanted to use without
ruining them.  That guy OD'd.  The owner got mad at us.
Monochrome got bumped from room to room.  Mark Gage wasn't at
his hotel when someone went to pick him up.  Alison was
announced to go on but no one checked to see if she was
actually there and ready.  We had to make someone put out a
fire they were trying to start in a barrel outside.  A light
that wasn't being used had been plugged into an outlet on the
sound equipment and was causing a terrible buzzing the whole
night.  We didn't get to use the space we wanted.  There was no
phone line so we couldn't set up a vrave connection, even
though I lugged my computer all the way to the space.
Someone's records got warped in their car.  Someone with asthma
was having trouble breathing in the dusty warehouse and had to
leave.  Stuff like that.  And you know what?  All that -- it's
NOTHING compared to what happens at the BIG parties!

Despite all the shortcomings and mishaps, things still turned
out alright.  Everyone who stayed seemed to be enjoying
themselves, and Mark Gage and the DJs all said they had a great
time.  All the free copies of Urb that Tamara had brought were
gone by night's end.  Alison & Tamara were impressed with how
green Ohio is, how clear the air is (first words off the plane:
"look at the air! look at the air!"), and how so many people
smoke cigarettes here.  Apparently in LA it is much less
fashionable to smoke.

Thank you to all who came out for the party; I hope you had a
good time.  Sunday was my 25th birthday (yes, I am on the
geriatric-ravers list) and I'm glad I got to spend it in the
company of friends.  If anyone has any questions about the
party or whatever, please feel free to email.

Mike

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From: heidi jo <Heidi.J.Brandenburg-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: mw-raves@taz.hyperreal.com
Subject: small town media coverage 
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i turned to the editorial section of our local newspaper today intending 
to find the usual letters complaining about this business or that 
politician or those people but instead i got what follows.  remember, 
this comes from a smallish way-out-there suburb/rural town (20 mi north 
of milwaukee)...

{Ozaukee County News Graphic
Thursday, June 20, 1996
pg 10}

PARTY ON

Benefit 'rave' showed kids at their best

To the Editor:
	I was approached last Wednesday by a production company to use my 
facilities to have a party to benefit the Hunger Task Force.  They had 
all the credentials needed, a $1,000 liability policy, security system, 
no hankey panky allowed, were expecting 800 kids to come and party and 
dance...references etc.  I said go for it.
	Well, I've been around the horn a time or two in my life and 
think I know a lot about kids and music, after all, I partied with the 
best generations, in the '50's and '60s...and sneaked into the '70s as 
well, but last night at 2:10 a.m. two members of the Ozaukee County 
Sheriff's Department were dispatched to my farm with a noise complaint.  
I caught up with officer Ron when they were just about to leave.  He 
informed me that they found one youth with alcohol and four bottles of 
beer.  They told the DJ to tone down the music, which he did.  While we 
were talking the dispatcher called for an update, Officer Ron told him 
that he and I were outside the barn and could not hear any music coming 
from the barn and with that the dispatcher remarked "Well the next 
complaint I will send down every available squad and close up the party."
	At this point I want to interject, close down a party of 250-300 
tenns enjoying an evening together listening to their kine of music, 
called Techno, and kids getting together dressed in their certain 
attire...baggie pants, hair colors that only your hair dresser knows for 
sure.  I say get behind these kids--they are the best...no fights, no 
drugs, no beer or alcohol, all having a good time.
	We hear of all the bad kids.  Well, I want you to know there are 
a whole bunch of good kids out there.  I got to see them with my own 
eyes.  They are the generation of the future...and they are ravers.  Party 
on!
	The only nuisance I saw was the second squad car that was here at 
2:10 a.m.  When he left after the first squad car, he sprayed my car with 
gravel.  Even the kids leaving at 4 a.m. didn't do that.
					Mary Lynn Treis
					Grafton {Wisconsin}


i found this quite amusing...in a heartwarming sort of way.  i doubt 
there were "no drugs" or, for that matter, "no hankey panky" but it's 
good to see that someone (i.e. adult person not in scene) has a good 
opinion of us.  besides, she said "they are the generation of the 
future...and they are ravers" and that made me laugh out loud.  well 
then, imagine our beautiful future...

heidi jo


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 20 12:52:12 1996
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From: DORK <jchandratat@STTHOMAS.EDU>
Subject: nut lois & refreshed last night
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i thought nut lois were(are?) the promoters? cat in the hat is the name
associated with this promoter..along with acid bath, jesus juice..etc
it was long time ago...so my memory isnt exactly fresh :>

anyways....refreshed last night was one of the weirdest time in my 'raving'
career. including the promoters, there were about 25 pple there...give or
take a few. i helped clinton set up the lights and sound, so i know what a
pain in the butt it is to set up..and there were only 3 of us. pretty good
job we did, if i may say so :> the 8 roboscans were so cool...i want one in
my room. my set was cut short cuz the mixer kept screwing up...damn gemini!
i screwed up one mix...oh well. the other 2 dj's (werk(sp?) and overdose)
were pretty damn good. they were cutting the shit up...so i decide to get 
back into my closet for another year or so and pick up some tricks. 
sadly, this was the last refreshed in a while (unknown future) clinton told
me not to become a promoter :>
see ya at wonderland...yes, i, too, am skipping mac street.

johnny/dove


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Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:50:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Smith <robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu>
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Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:26:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: wallace winfrey <wally@nicar.org>
To: mo-raves@nicar.org
Subject: directions to rainbow gathering

Grabbed this from http://www.welcomehome.org:

This year the North American Rainbow Gathering (hence
referred to as the Gathering) will be in the Ozarks from
June 28 - July 10.

The site was consented on at sunrise, on the land, on June
10. The directions are:

Go 3 miles north of Thomasville, MO on highway 99. Turn at
FS road #3173, go 3 miles east to parking.

                *Rolla                                * St Louis



To     <--------+------------+---------<< Hwy 60
Willow Springs  |            |
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         Hwy99->|            |
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                +-----X      |
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West Plains
                  Missouri
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                  Arkansas



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Hope to see some of you there!

cheers

wally

-- 
wallace winfrey 
sysadmin, ire/nicar 
wally@nicar.org
 
*space migration, intelligence increase and life extension*


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SY>JAMES TEMPLE - (aka jim bob)    Universal Groove, Athens
wow!  someone from my home town on a flyer
not  Athens though, he's from  fremont
I guess  F-town didnt look classy  enough for him.
Oh well,  I'll still be there to cheer him on even if he disses my
pathethic town




                         Steve p



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Subject: FOUNDATION in St.Louis 6-22
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Here is the final warning!  lets bring the NRG to the Midwest's fastest 
growing rave scene with




                =>FOUNDATION<=
            
                Sat. june 22 
                  St. Louis 
                       MO
                

                 314-567-2097
                    
                      $15


Three slammin rooms in an actual warehouse
DJS:

Room 1  Glenn Underground with live sax performance by Ulusses
^^^^^^  DJ Icey from, yes, Orlando FL
        DJ Carlos from SanFran
        dieselboy, junglest maximus
        Express, STL 

Room 2  Our Stlouis Brothers:
^^^^^^      Jeff Feller
            Dino
            Doug
            Elroy
            Tre'

Room 3 Ambient soundscapes by
^^^^^^ Blurr
       Dreamscape
       Saul-good:)
       N8

Specifications:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        Diversified audio's WALL OF SOUND, 50000 watts of engery
        16 screen video wall
        2 1220, 3 emulators, 10 intellibeams


Pre-party:)
^^^^^^^^^^^ with Boo Williams (scary) and others on Friday night

Main Party goes till dawn
                     ^^^^
Then on to afterhours in the park!!!
                             ```````


LINES OF LOVE:

STLOUIS main line:0     314-567-2097

Chicago Nadisco:)       312-338-2653
Nashville BAM           615-780-3730
Indianapolis SIN        317-885-4548
Memphis                 901-754-0808
Louisville              502-568-1868



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mark your calendars....

UNITED DANCE touches down in Toronto on August 31st...

Featuring the following jungle and happy hardcore DJs straight from the UK

HYPE
ZINC
ELLIS DEE
SY
SLIPMATT
VINYL GROOVER
DOUGAL

alongside the

MC MC, MC MATRIX, & MC SHARKEY

PLUS live PA's by

***RABBIT IN THE MOON and ERUPTION & DOUGAL***

other DJs include

BUCK BALINO, CZECH, LITTLE T, BRADELY CARTER, SARAH CHAPMAN,
MYSTICAL INFLUENCE, SNIPER, DARREN Y, DOMINIK, MARK OLIVER, TIM PATRICK,
FUNK E-1, ALGORYTHM, MC GADGET

info at:

416-760-DANCE (416-760-3262)


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Hey, can someone clue me in on this? I seem to remember somewhere in my
sifting thru of info-lines hearing that Laurent Garnier (spelling?) was
booked either in Minneapolis or near minneapolis sometime this summer.
Anyone know the event that he'll be at? Or am I just messed up in the head
and imagining all of it? I'd call all the info-lines and check but there's
like 12 of them and I figured it would be easier to ask here...

hris e


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>SY>JAMES TEMPLE - (aka jim bob)    Universal Groove, Athens
>wow!  someone from my home town on a flyer
>not  Athens though, he's from  fremont
>I guess  F-town didnt look classy  enough for him.
>Oh well,  I'll still be there to cheer him on even if he disses my
>pathethic town
>
>
>
>
>                         Steve p

i kinda know jimbob personally, hes a good friend or my bes friend, and hes
really cool, and is a really good dj. reguardless of where he has the
flyier sayhe is from.

i also think that he has athens put on it b/c or the atens crew, or goup of
kids that always party together, who all kick ass and have vide so think
you could cut it up and serveit on a plate.

simple



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>
>
>                =>FOUNDATION<=
>
>                Sat. june 22
>                  St. Louis
>                       MO
>
>
>                 314-567-2097
>
>                      $15
clip-------------------------------------------------------------------

>        16 screen video wall
who is doing the visuals?***courious***
simple



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I havnt seen anything posted on this yet, and it s aobut a montha way, so
here it is.so i might have seen this but im not sure.

and so there is no confusion this is a <ticketmaster> event being heald at
the metro (which is rock club/bar venue--normally used for concerts)

simple
ps
FYI this is 18+ sorry kids under18.
____________________________________________________________________________
July 20---The Metro.3730NorthClarkStreet.Chicago.312.549.0203.
concert.line@312.409.2287
metrochgo@aol.com


(Organico Night)
Dubtribe Sound System
Sound Patrol featuring Derrik Carter
Frequency Lab vs Squishy
Tranquilty Bass
7 Kings
DJ Little Green Matt
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



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Eye didn't write this... too bad the author forgot to say what city it's
in...

-------
Jeff Gage                                        gage@hyperreal.com

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>From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 20 08:48:10 1996
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For all you travellin' types...
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    an update: FREEDOM '96 - July 3rd
Date:    96-06-19 19:39:02 EDT
From:    Tokosan
To:      ne-raves@world.std.com
CC:      dcraves@american.edu


As previously mentioned...

Alan Sanctuary & Scotto in assoc. w/ twilo
give you

    FREEDOM ' 96
________________

all-star djs on the 1-and-2's:

DOC MARTIN                ARMANDO                Superstar Dj KEOKI
JOEY BELTRAM        ELECTRIC INDIGO         CARLOS (CDC-S.F.)
"BABY" HEC                   JOESKI                        MR. KLEEN
SPROUT                   NIGEL RICHARDS              JASON JINX
EMPATH                   RANDALL JONES                 SHAMUS

                          Live performances by:

                      CRYSTAL METHOD   &   1.8.7

Louder than bombs on the
TWO (2) greatest sound systems IN THE WORLD !!!!!

advance tix: $15    w/flyer: $18    empty-handed: $20.

LOCATION >>>  530 west 27th street (btwn 10th & 11th aves).

adv tix avail @
611 records/modern music/satellite
strange?/special sauce/music now
starting 6/26/96

email tokosan@aol.com if you require any further communique.



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forwarding to the list... it's in Memphis, TN...

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Jeff Gage                                        gage@hyperreal.com

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July 20, 1996

SQUATCH PRODUCTIONS
          presents
           Thanx!

We invite all to come a dance as squatch productions sends a tribute to
everybody who believes in making the scene what it is all about.  

Dj's for the night:

KIMBALL COLLINS
(mco records/positivibes-orlando)

DAVID HOLLANDS
(minimal wage/satellite-nyc)

MARY JANE
(squatch-memphis)

SOULSPIN
(memphis,tn)

CRAIG MONTOYA
(san diego-memphis)

LIGHTS AND SOUND BY: SQUATCH PRODUCTIONS (memphis, tn)

MAIN LINE FOR THE 411:
SQUATCH HOTLINE: 901-242-5400

OTHER INFO LINES:
NASHVILLE-BAM-615-780-3730
CHATTANOOGA-SOLO PROD.-423-267-8241
LEXINGTON-UNTRANSLATABLE-606-226-6850
EVANSVILLE-NIGHTLIFE FAMILY PROD.-812-474-5660
ST. LOUIS-ASTRO LINE-314-995-1374



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Jeff-

 The first party you posted looks like it's mot likely in either Baltimore, or
D.C. I say this because it was also posted to ne-raves, and because you can get
tix at Modern Music, which is located in Baltimore... =) (I should know, I just
got a NICE package from them yesterday)

Glad to help!

-Becky =)


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Things that have been rocking mon monde lately...

_Feed Me Weird Things_ - Squarepusher (Rephlex)

Yes, it's been hyped to death but it's genuinely cool. Pleasantly
surprised.  Mutant D&B with a real jazz influence (not just
the watery strings over the top that usually passes for
"intelligent" D&B), and live bass playing over the top.

DJ Kicks - Claude Young (!K7)

_The man_ cuts it up like you knew he would.  Gritty
and a welcome respite from the "Superstah DJ Keoki's"
of the world.  Backspins, wheelups, phasing, beat
chopping, you name it, he does it.  And all without
dyeing his hair blue and wearing leather pants.

Kushti - g-man (Swim)

Gez Varley from LFO. Has all the "hits" you don't know
by name but will recognize when you hear them --
midwest DJ's have been playing these tracks all over
for the last year: "Sparticus", "Quo Vardis", "Mars".
Evil east coaster Mark Gage does digital sequeing
duties.

Walking Wounded - Everything But the Girl

Probably the best thing you'll hear on your local
top 40 station all summer. Overt trip hop and
jungle influences, tastefully integrated.

So what's pitching your tent?

 -d.w.

WE WILL BRING GOD DOWN TO EARTH AND SHAKE HIS ASS WITH BASS


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On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Chris Ege wrote:

> Hey, can someone clue me in on this? I seem to remember somewhere in my
> sifting thru of info-lines hearing that Laurent Garnier (spelling?) was
> booked either in Minneapolis or near minneapolis sometime this summer.
> Anyone know the event that he'll be at? Or am I just messed up in the head
> and imagining all of it? I'd call all the info-lines and check but there's
> like 12 of them and I figured it would be easier to ask here...

Whooo hoo!  Where can I get my ticket?!


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Hello Masses,
	I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction.
 
What Im looking for is a company that makes film loops.  Im interested in 
purchasing them for my own productions..   
 
                          thanks in advanced

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anyone have direx or an info-line #?

please, cuz i'm goin, and it seems like it'd be a whole lot
easier if i had one or the other, y'know?

peace,
mindkiss


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Me and my better half are going.   If anyone would like to hang out 
fine.  We are THE CANDY PEOPLE!!! TRIP TOY PEOPLE!!! 
Our mission: To spread good VIBE.


People out.

The Jap was here


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Me going to clear this weekend....look for a guy and a girl(the girl is
really tall and overbearing....she is wearing glasses and she is jewish...
but nice...) come tlak to us....or sell us...



 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 			    THat Was....:P
		
	   michael l. grimes.......liquid pleasure......liqplesr
		         *all rolled up into one*


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                      fax: 812-336-6987(notify ahead)/home:812-336-6987
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Freedom '96 is to be held in NYC.....got a flyer for it at Liberty....

love to go but that drive is a once a month thang, ya dig??

*sticks tongue out at becky* nana nana na na!  ;)

--jeff/stuff (that guy who didn't get a nice package from anyone yesterday)

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i was just wondering if any you in the madison area know anything about a 
party that is supposed to be going on this saturday at soccer world over 
on the east side?  some people were talking about it last nite.  thanx
_____________________________________________________________________________
brent theisen                                             brentt@onlineuw.org
					      http://www.onlineuw.org/~brentt
madison, wi
608.221.4641       		                 there's only 4 years left...


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Saturday June 29th, 1996


u-80 presents:

WONDERLAND


DYLAN DRAZEN		O-SCAR			JEFFREE DEE

ALFREDO			CHRIS SATTINGER		PAUL E. WOG

Also:

Earache, Gabber Girl, X Hurt Shun, Slut, Capsule, Probe, Overdose, Werk,
Stylus, Natas, Alaya, and Tim Krochalk.

Main info:  (612)909-1559
Funk Productions: (312)508-6934


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>Saturday June 29th, 1996
>
>
>u-80 presents:
>
>WONDERLAND
>
>
>DYLAN DRAZEN            O-SCAR                  JEFFREE DEE
>
>ALFREDO                 CHRIS SATTINGER         PAUL E. WOG
>
>Also:
>
>Earache, Gabber Girl, X Hurt Shun, Slut, Capsule, Probe, Overdose, Werk,
>Stylus, Natas, Alaya, and Tim Krochalk.
>
>Main info:  (612)909-1559
>Funk Productions: (312)508-6934



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>Hey, can someone clue me in on this? I seem to remember somewhere in my
>sifting thru of info-lines hearing that Laurent Garnier (spelling?) was
>booked either in Minneapolis or near minneapolis sometime this summer.
>Anyone know the event that he'll be at? Or am I just messed up in the head
>and imagining all of it? I'd call all the info-lines and check but there's
>like 12 of them and I figured it would be easier to ask here...
>
>hris e

Haven't heard of any such thing.   It would be nice though.  My friends saw
him in a Paris club spinning for 4 hours.    Breakdowns that lasted 20
minutes !     Also, LG put a track of mine on his new mix CD !!!!   Wooo
Hooo!

  Over and Out.

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Chris Sattinger                                                            
     
                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

discography:
http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/discography.html
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US Techno House Business Resource :

http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/m082/satti002/DanceLabel.html



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>the 2nd room used to be a place where you could hear different kinds of 
>music...where you could relax _or_ dance if you wanted to.  but that kind 
>of 2nd room has been dead in the mw for some time now. 

In Mpls. it is now the Third Room.    The main problem is as usual, sound
bleeding through from the other rooms.     Bubbilicious had a great thing
going on, cool video and really strange music.  I know someone here on the
list complained about something that was too challenging for them, but oh
well ;)     Sun Ra, throbbing gristle, noise noise, dub reggae as well as
Rabbit in the Moon type junk.    

I personally think the flood of djs and the second room is kind of cool.   
It makes it more of a DIY scene.   Its better that people can go into the
second room and have friends (sometimes just starting, sometimes pretty
good) spinning in there.    Less of the dj vs. audience split.  It brings
the stage "lower down" closer to the raver.  That way it doesn't seem so
hard to get going and get up there.    Encouragement, dig ?   
But yeah, I love the Third room stuff a lot, and I think a little posse is
congealing here around a couple of intelligent folks.     They are going to
push the experience a little bit more.


>if you're into this, let me know (even if you cant make it).  i need all
>the encouragement i can get. 
Here you go :      Fight the Power, cuz !    
We might be doing a similiar event in Mpls. soon.   It will probably be a
two parter, start with more listening stuff (and live acts) and move into
more dance stuff into the night.   A small space party.  Keep tuned.
I think that's a pretty good way to do it, different parts of the night so
the different interests can get a good dose of what they need.   The event
goes for 12 + hours.

  Over and Out.

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Chris Sattinger                                                            
     
                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

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>Actually, 
>I think the thing that Earache was trying to get across about this party 
>is that it is the same night the KISS reunion will be in town.  I think 
>the Nuts and Lois thing is that Lois was mentioning how nuts you'd be to 
>miss KISS and go to a rave.
>
>-Xavier

Uh, is Kiss sold out ?

  Over and Out.

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Chris Sattinger                                                            
     
                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Fri Jun 21 15:56:11 1996
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>i was just wondering if any you in the madison area know anything about a 
>party that is supposed to be going on this saturday at soccer world over 
>on the east side?  some people were talking about it last nite.  thanx

in the article about raves in the wisconsin state journal, one of the guys
interviewed by the name of Taz said he was having a battle of the djs
contest at soccer world on saturday and so this is what people are talking
about. i haven't heard anythign else about it from anyone, but i can tell
you there is something else going on at cafe assisi on sat. night if you're
looking for something to do. onfo line is 257-6125.

-kc


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[This post is multi-purpose, each paragraph is a different subject.]

Okay, so I just got back from IHOP, and I am pleased to announce they are
now selling these little plastic pancakes on wheels which they have dubbed
"Rolling Toys".  I gotta big kick outta this.  :D  Rolling Toys, hehehe...

Anyhoo... I stand by the facts that a) Madison rules, and b) the
Starchildren know wuzzup and totally seem to be true to the "scene" --
support them!  (Incidentally, if anyone knows the name of last night's
party [Thursday], I couldn't understand what the info line said, so if
anyone could pass it along...)  And in other news, I must say, I came
across the nicest cop last night when I got pulled over on my way to
Madison.  To pull from a previous thread on this list... yes, nice cops DO
exist!  45 in a 35, in a small farm town, I figured I was fucked...
normally cops see me with my long hair and non-traditional clothing and
they're like, "So, what crimes have YOU committed, son?!", even though I'm
a peaceful dude and my record's squeaky clean.  So, I whipped out a bowl,
we smoked one down, and everything was cool.  ;>  (Who, me?  Nah, I'm a
law-abiding citizen, I wouldn't partake of such madness <caugh>, <grin>...)
No, but seriously... the guy was really cool, gave me no hassle despite my
appearance, and didn't even give me a ticket, just told me I had to slow
down and sent me on my way.  Woooo hoo!  Solid proof in my mind that it
does pay off to attune to stargates, hehe... anyways, with spirit on my
side I proceeded to Madison for another Starchildren party, where I was
immediately greeted by friendly Mad-town people and made some new friends
thoughout the night.  Madison's the shit!

Thanx to everybody who bothered to put a little bit of attention into the
stargate and the worldwide unity prayer which I mentioned here a couple
days ago.  I am disappointed, there weren't as many willing mw-ravers this
time as there were for the last stargate... one would think people who are
supposedly into unity would appreciate these efforts.  Hm... Sirius-ly,
folks, is it unity with ALL people that you're interested in, or just
selective unity within the rave community and "your kind" of people?  Hm,
something to think about... 'cuz it's gonna take a little bit of effort on
everybody's part to create unity between all people, not just dancing,
spinning, rolling, and stuff.  <shrug>, oh well.  Fuck'n A, the stargate
was totally *intense*... fasten your seatbelts, starship Earth is takin'
off!  The next few months should be most interesting.  Anyways, back down
to Earth...

Ran across this in my last mw-digest...
>Me going to clear this weekend....look for a guy and a girl(the girl is
>really tall and overbearing....she is wearing glasses and she is jewish...
>but nice...)
And this statement is supposed to imply... what?  What does her being
Jewish have to do with anything?  Am not Jewish myself in this lifetime,
but was disturbed by this statement nonetheless... insert any religion or
heritage into the statement, "she is ______, but nice", it just leaves a
very sour taste in my mouth... the implications aren't too cool.  What is
it with this planet... people are always looking for ways to label and
divide instead of looking at each other as fellow human beings.  Sheesh,
when my time's done here, I'm headin' back to the Pleiades for a few
thousand years!!  Hehe ;>  'Nuff said, am totally *not* wanting to start a
thread about this, but I couldn't resist tossing my two cents in here, I
can't let a veiled statement like that slide.

Anyways... I'm off to Arizona for a while now... see y'all when I get back.
(Assuming I come back!)  Hey, anyone going to Moonflower?  I'm probably
gonna go, although... I'm not quite sure what to make of this.  I wonder if
it'll be everything it's hyped up to be.  I guess time will tell.  I wonder
if they'll have any clue about their kundalini yoga sessions.  Or how the
"indegininous [sic] participatory arts and crafts" will be, I wonder if
this will be something respectful of indigenous people or if it'll be the
usual U.S. exploitation of native culture.  ("Indegininous", LOL!)  Anyone
have any sort of net.gatherings in mind?  Anyone even going?  I know we're
all waiting for FA2 and V the weekend after, but... this might be worth a
shot, eh?, Spacetime Continuum and all...

       Exploring Alternate Realities,

                  Randy
                   a d
                    n
                   a d
                  Randy

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Yes, 	
net meet at Moonflower would be a keen thing.  I am not totally sure of
the layout at the place, so if someone else would do the honors of
choosing time and place...?
 
Always,
Erinaceous
 


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>Eye didn't write this... too bad the author forgot to say what city it's
>in...
>
>>adv tix avail @
>611 records<--------this store is in Philly215.413.9100




/modern music/satellite
>strange?/special sauce/music now
>starting 6/26/96
>
>email tokosan@aol.com if you require any further communique.
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>Haven't heard of any such thing.   It would be nice though.  My friends saw
>him in a Paris club spinning for 4 hours.    Breakdowns that lasted 20
>minutes !

yeah i can attest to this, i saw him clear out the room at fantastic voyage
in dayton a while back.
simple



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Is anyone gona be going to Conspiricy this sat in chicago?
so whatabout a net meet.

also is you are coming in from outof town there is alo a free preparty from
noon to 9 on satur DAY.(call 708.585.4056) and there is a free after party
aswell (wow im really im pressed with chicago!) call 312.509.8588(im pretty
sure).

simple



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ok, so i get home and open up the maibox to a waiting Rolling Stone Mag.  As
usual i am flipping through, reading the random notes and looking at pics and
ads and lo and behold...there is a picture and a random note from even
furthur.  I thought this was pretty kewl, since i look for stuff about tekkno
or raving in RS all the time but never expect to see (and kinda hope not
to...ya know?)
Then i keep flipping and wowzers...there's an article about trip-hop.  I was
amazed.  Two peices of writing in one ish!

oh yeah...the pic was of a trampoline, so if you were bouncing on a tramp and
someone snapped a pic...it could be YOU in Rolling Stone.  I, sadly, was not
at furthur...*snif*

anywayze...i'm dayzed.
plur out and keep the good vibes flowing.
:ben - quirk

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(duh) bounce... Troutsoup ya gotta send from your _subscribed_ account for
it to appear on the list. That goes for everybody BTW... :)

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At 11:01 AM 6/21/96 -0400, nobody wrote:
>
>anyone have direx or an info-line #?
>
>please, cuz i'm goin, and it seems like it'd be a whole lot
>easier if i had one or the other, y'know?

hiya.  talk to frank glazer, he said something about going after active not
passive...  i dont have his email handy, but heres his
phone...412.836.1167.... later, jamie.... 
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HI guys....just got back from clear....excellent party! People made
me feel wanted....the music was kick ass....as well as I had to stop
at 5:30....so I will tell more when I am sane....

LIq.



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ok, here's the deal.  my friends are going to minneapolis without me =(
and are lookin for some nice ravahs who could point the way to a party
or two while they're there, maybe hookup, hangout, whatevah.

anyone from the mnpls area want to volunteer to meet stupid ohio kids?
help them out?  subvert them and kill them for not takin me? ;)

anyone who can help out, a home phone would be nifty...

peace,
mindkiss


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this is directed mainly at the mnpls portion of the list but i know some 
of my friends from other plqaces around the area were expecting me to be 
at wonderland in mnpls next wekend as well. sad to say i don't think i'm 
gonna make it, i have mono pretty bad, and basically am stuck in my house 
for a bit. 

sorry to all i promised that i would be back up for the party, i really 
want to go but i can't afford physically or financially to run my body 
down anymore than i already have.:(

ahhh summer in sheboygan. isolation from pretty much everything:(

dylan

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Okay, despitethe bad feeling I have about this party, I've decided to go.
If anyone else is gonna be there, look for me.  I might be handing out
wonderland fliers.  I'll probably be wearing black phat shorts or grey
semi-phat pants.  I havent decided yet. I'm about 6 feet tall and have
dirty blond hair. I think I'll be wearing a white drawls t-shirt with red
sleeves.  So, if anyone besides me is going to this lame-ass party, stop
me and say whats up.

chris




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>Anyhoo... I stand by the facts that a) Madison rules, and b) the
>Starchildren know wuzzup and totally seem to be true to the "scene" --
>support them!  (Incidentally, if anyone knows the name of last night's
>party [Thursday], I couldn't understand what the info line said, so if
>anyone could pass it along...) 

I talked to a starchild named Holly, and apparently these weekly raves don't 
have any specific names.  She said that last week's name (Milk&Cheese) came 
about because somebody asked one of the Starchildren what to call it on the 
net, and they were reading the Milk&Cheese comic so they said that as a 
joke.  No wait, this just in, I just called the info line and next weeks 
party is called "In The Ghetto".  Well, maby that last party did have a 
name...  Anybody know?

>I proceeded to Madison for another Starchildren party, where I was
>immediately greeted by friendly Mad-town people and made some new friends
>thoughout the night.  Madison's the shit!

I agree, this party had some problems, like a blown fuse for the lights, and 
Traxx not showing because he couldn't get a ride, but everyone had a great 
time regardless.  These parties have a great vibe, real nice promoters, and 
for five bucks, they're a great deal.  Everybody should come next thursday 
for "In The Ghetto", Featuring

Freak From Chicago, 
JT form Minn.
And Josh from Madison,
Only $5
StarLine 258-0098

And of course, don't forget about Respect, on Aug 3, the Starchildren's big 
party.

Alex


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sat Jun 22 11:13:31 1996
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>Okay, despitethe bad feeling I have about this party, I've decided to go.
>If anyone else is gonna be there, look for me.  I might be handing out
>wonderland fliers.  I'll probably be wearing black phat shorts or grey
>semi-phat pants.  I havent decided yet. I'm about 6 feet tall and have
>dirty blond hair. I think I'll be wearing a white drawls t-shirt with red
>sleeves.  So, if anyone besides me is going to this lame-ass party, stop
>me and say whats up.

Hay I'll be handing out new flyers for Aquarius at this.  Hopefully I'll be
rolling my balls to high heavan and back.  Anyways, hit me in the head.

earache
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>Okay, despitethe bad feeling I have about this party, I've decided to go.
>If anyone else is gonna be there, look for me.  I might be handing out
>wonderland fliers.  I'll probably be wearing black phat shorts or grey
>semi-phat pants.  I havent decided yet. I'm about 6 feet tall and have
>dirty blond hair. I think I'll be wearing a white drawls t-shirt with red
>sleeves.  So, if anyone besides me is going to this lame-ass party, stop
>me and say whats up.

Err that sounded not like I meant. 

heh

earache

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sat Jun 22 11:58:02 1996
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Well once again vrave is phuct!  All the more reason to do Fresh Milk.  I go
there everyday and the most people i have ever found there is 4!  and that
was today, since vrave is down.  Fresh Milk is like 1000 times kewler than
vrave, so everybody go there.  www.freshmilk.com

                                Peace Marc  (tryin to start up the Fresh
Milk scene) ;~)
                                             cybermonk on vrave
                                             amino on fresh milk

            


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sat Jun 22 12:32:35 1996
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I know he's spinning in DC on Aug 16.  There is a 2 page article about the 20 
"Best DJ's in the World " in this issue of Details magazine.  He lists a few 
tour dates but Minneapolis isn't one.....

----------
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Hey, can someone clue me in on this? I seem to remember somewhere in my
sifting thru of info-lines hearing that Laurent Garnier (spelling?) was
booked either in Minneapolis or near minneapolis sometime this summer.
Anyone know the event that he'll be at? Or am I just messed up in the head
and imagining all of it? I'd call all the info-lines and check but there's
like 12 of them and I figured it would be easier to ask here...

hris e



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From: Davis Daniel J <davisd@odo.msoe.edu>
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Juice:  what can i say   its another no vibe chicago party that disguises
itself as a club event (to make it legal)   i dislike the fact that when
you are almost knocked over/tripped by people they do not have the curtisy
to even smile and/or say sorry man

well on the music    terry mullan----i hate him   he sucks   IMO     he
really fucking sucks   i cant even dance to his shitty fuckin so called
spinning anymore     PROMOTERS IF YOU ARE OUT THERE    DO NOT HIRE TERRY
MULLAN    HE SUCKS HARD

ummmm   dan efex---spun an interesting set...heard lots of complaints as
well as lots of praise   persoanlly i thought it was O.K.   he spun some
darky technoish sorta stuff    hard to dance to

FEELGOOD    as my friend put it  "he gives me an orgasm through the music"
i luv him......i will definately be at respect to both support the star
children and see FEELGOOD     he is ssoooooooo goood!!!!!!!!     

Onionz   not all he was cracked up to be   i departed the club during the
first 25 minutes of his set due to lack of hmmm good music    personally
i didnt like him    

the club got shutdown 35 minutes early   whoopde do     the cops were real
fucking dicks....i started talking to one  (me=very very friendly) and he
told me to shut up and to "get out of the f*ckin club and go home"    i
was very offended .....

Core is doing a good job with these    i like this but it still has that
"chicago rave feel"    yah know?      lineup to come

Friday 07.05.96
Frankie Bones
Mike Dearborn
Paul Johnson
and the shitty terry mulla/en


Friday 07.19.96
Tyree Cooper
HippE
Hyperactive
and the shitty terry mulla/en

soon to come
8/2   JOSH WINK   woohoo   my b-day present    woohooo
8/16  dj dan, derrick carter
8/30  LAURENT GARNIER  (trobbs here you go)




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>
>soon to come
>8/2   JOSH WINK   woohoo   my b-day present    woohooo

aw yeah!  i still haven't seen him spin...yah baby i'll trek to juice for
dis, then see jam master jay the next nite in indy :)

>8/16  dj dan, derrick carter

AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!! yes yes yes yes yes !!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :)  *explodes*

btw i just found out july 4 fever featured DJ MUTHAFUKKIN DAN and CARLOS on
3 tables!!!  plus, of course, feelgood and scott henry, as well as on-e,
slant and some others, and goes til 8am...i think i'm gonna try and make it
:) :)   wooooohoooo! :)

forever searching for a snappy closing,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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"it's your time, you can dance if you want to"
                                           -derrick carter
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sat Jun 22 16:43:18 1996
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Okay, it looks like the 4th and 5th and 6th of july are party central.
Where should I be?  There's  Family Affair 2, One Nation, V- the
revelation tour, North, Brahman, and (HAH!) One-Der here in minneapolis.
So I think we all know which one is definitely out (hint: it's in my home
town) And I'm really inclined to say "family affair" right off the bat,
but I don't really know.  V looks good and so does North.  Of course,
everything depends on finding people willing to travel with me- and in
that case I guess I can count on going to one-der (yuk!) But maybe I'll be
able to fast-talk some people into making the trip to ohio with me... or
St. Louis.  What kind of drive am I looking at for either of those
destinations? More than 6 hours I suppose. Ah well...

chris



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From: Dan Smith <robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu>
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check this out.  word from Harry (him) Self:
 JULY 3 & 4 1996                        ONE NATION
outside KC MO

on July 3 and 4, 2gether out of Kansas City would like to invite
everyone to a special 4th of July celebration, ONE NATION.  This event
will
take place on private land somewhere outside of Kansas City (to be
revealed later).  We want everyone to come and camp out, we'll provide 
food,fireworks, and fun by a private lake.   We will have several
Kansas City/Columbia/St.Louis people and DJs involved, as this party will
be held in conjunction with St. Louis' Vybrations party V, celebrating 5
years on the midwest scene, to be held on the 5,6 and 7 of July.  We are 
doing this to have a good time and unite people in the mw, we need
as much help as possible so we can keep the costs way down.  if you are 
interested in donating time, equipment, info lines, djing, promoting 
or anything else, please call us at 913.691.0070 or call Anika at
913.691.3773. thanks, peace, keep the scene going....;)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
this is what I've been told.  I do not knpow what the full story is at
all.  If you are interested, and in KC on the 4th, then call the info
lines yourself.  

may the smack be with you!

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi


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Heya all great party going down in Urbana, IL starting virtually now and
running till the latenite. DJ Acetate is doing a live PA (you can bet I'm
gonna make him let me play with those two 303s I saw laying around!),
MOTV, don't remember who else but the vibe will be phat and there's prolly
fairly big Chicago names if you're into that. Anyway I'll be there so if
you do actually come stop me and say hi! Hopefully ya all know what I look
like by now... if not scope my web page. Anyway I hope somebody who's
bored on a saturday night decides to go... you can sleep over at my house
if you want to crash somewhere. Anyway here's the direx...

from Chi:
head south...take 94 when it splits from 90... that turns into 57... take
57 south for 130 miles to Champaign... get onto 74 east... about 3 miles
later will be Lincoln St exit... exit right/south... go a couple lights...
after Green St (light) make your second left (Illinois st), go down about
2 blocks, the house is 714 W. Illinois St, on the left side.

>From Indy: take 74 east to Champaign, IL. Exit Lincoln st, follow above
direx.

>From StL: take...hmm lessee if I can rememer... was it 64/40? In any case
head towards IL... get on 70 north(ish), I think it says towards Indy, but
at some point (hey, I've only been there once!) it runs into 57.... take
that north to 74... take 74 east about 3 miles, exit Lincoln St, follow
above direx.

Wow wouldn't that be cool if somebody actually came... well knowledge is
power so there ya go, show up if ya want. Scope our local scene, it's
growing!

Seeya-
-Gage

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Okay, I've seen the lowest of the low.  This party should've never
happened. It was the lamest thing i've ever experienced.  What the fuck
was all that hip-hop shit at the beginning???? Gawd damn it was complete
shit.  Especially that live pa that was a cover-up for the fact that DAJAE
WAS NOT THERE!  Grr...  Also, if you notice, I'm writing this at 4:45am.
which means the party was, yes, shut down.  Let me say one thing about the
space as well.  It was the same space that they used for the original mac
street. And I didn't like the space then, and it was even worse this time
(there was no cool green laser)  There were two things that saved this
party from complete failure: the first was Vitamin D's set: absolutely
amazing!  I loved that set and was actually beginning to like the party
when alex jarvis came on.  I can't stand that guy.  The last mac street
was my first party, and that was my motivation for going to this one:
sorta a one-year anniversary of raving. But I'm regretting it.  Okay, I
mentioned that there were 2 things: and the other one is that Uniti did
not get my money for this party.  I only paid nine bucks. And I paid it to
some kids that claimed to have bought their tickets pre-sale.  But I kinda
didn't believe that when I saw that they had about 30 of the green
bracelets.  Nobody's going to buy 30 presale tickets! So uniti didn't get
my money and I feel good about that. (sorry to anyone that's friends with
mike stacy or anyone else from uniti- I just have never enjoyed one of
their parties) So that's the scoop on mac street 2- or should I say whack
street 2?

Everyone come out to wonderland next weekend- I'll be working there so
that alone will make it a cool party.  Just kidding

chris e

(well, off to the after-party now! it is free and catered after all)



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 23 03:10:34 1996
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>Okay, it looks like the 4th and 5th and 6th of july are party central.
>Where should I be?  There's  Family Affair 2, One Nation, V- the
>revelation tour, North, Brahman, and (HAH!) One-Der here in minneapolis.
>So I think we all know which one is definitely out (hint: it's in my home
>town) And I'm really inclined to say "family affair" right off the bat,
>but I don't really know.  V looks good and so does North.  Of course,
>everything depends on finding people willing to travel with me- and in
>that case I guess I can count on going to one-der (yuk!) But maybe I'll be
>able to fast-talk some people into making the trip to ohio with me... or
>St. Louis.  What kind of drive am I looking at for either of those
>destinations? More than 6 hours I suppose. Ah well...
>
>chris

then there is the rainbow gathering that started on June 15 and procedes
through July 15th with the peak being around the 4th........the rainbow
gathering is a really realy kewl thing and everyone should attend one at
least once inb their lives......we The FreeBass Collective will have our
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FOUNDATION doesn't even deserve to be mentioned again.  It made me cry and
want to end the pathetic little lives of the people who created this poor
excuse of a gathering.  We got there about 11:30 (early) and noticed that
everyone was practically standing outside in their own little chatting groups
and Heaven forbid they would talk to someone else besides the individuals in
that group.  Really pathetic.  The three rooms were pretty much empty and the
one drink whatever was $4 for nothing. My friends drove six hours to my house
to attend this poor excuse for a gathering (did I say that enough).  For
anyone that attended, you have to realize that we were all trashed out of
$15.  I will be kicking my ass for an eternity over this one.  First time at
St.L and it was absolutely without a doubt the final time.  I'm toooooooooooo
pissed to talk abolut it any more and it's wasted toooooooooo much of my life
away already.  



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 23 10:53:20 1996
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Ok..I know this is a subject that has been hashed and rehashed..

NEGATIVITY!!

I would just once like to log on to my puter, check my mail, and find zero negative posts
..However I know that that is just a dream because opinions are just like assholes,
everybody has one.  But, I think it is really sad to see how thisculture that I
have grown to love and is based on friendlinessss and love, is going down the
drain. Its in a perpetual downward spiral(Sorry ..cliche..NIN).

Perhaps if everyone took just a moment a day to realize that we have something very special happening
in our scene, then it could be better.  Every single person in the rave culture has SOMETHING to offer.  Not just the
dj's, the music makers, the sound and lighting guys.  They're not the only ones
that makes this culture happen.  It's all of us..everyone has that special thing
that makes a party happen or not happen..Yep..you got it...VIBE!!

So, let's get a good vibe kickin, get some smiles back on faces, and be friendly..
its that simple...do it..you'll feel a whole hell of a lot better..

If yer comin to FOREVER( my free party to celebrate my wedding), then you'll get a lot of
smiles and hugs and REALLY GOOD MUSIC!!!!!!!

JUST a lil' ramblin .........

Bruce


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Dear sir, 

	please do not post this kind of thing to this list.  normally, a party
review would be fine, but the way you told me that you had a bad time
1)was entirely based on your (not very well substantiated) opinion, and
2)did not describe well enough things that went wrong in such a way that
promoters could have gotten the message and fixed it next time. 
	watch.....

On 23 Jun 96 at 4:45, Chris Ege wrote:
> Okay, I've seen the lowest of the low.  This party should've never
> happened. 

first of all, didn't you post to this list a few hours beforehand that you 
had "a bad feeling" about this "lame-ass party"?  yes, in fact, you did.  
i would have personally recommended staying home and listening to mixtapes 
or even just a NAP if you were in this foul of a mood.  this kind of 
attitude is a sure recipe for not having fun at *any* party and does 
NOTHING for the vibe of the whole.   remember, you're not forced to go to 
parties...and if you're gonna be there with this mindset, don't come hang 
with me.

> What the fuck
> was all that hip-hop shit at the beginning???? Gawd damn it was complete
> shit.  

i wasn't there, but i happen to LIKE hiphop (among other forms of music)
and maybe some of the other people there did too.  did you know that
there was going to be hiphop there?  did you make a decision to be where
hiphop was being played?  so are you saying you had a bad time because of
someone else decisions (the promoters' decision to have that act there)
or your own (for not taking the aforementioned nap).  however, i trust
that you're a reasonable fella and can give the class a better
description of what it was about the "hip-hop shit" that made it so
terrible.  or was it just your taste?

> Especially that live pa that was a cover-up for the fact that DAJAE
> WAS NOT THERE!  

i'm deeply sorry that you did not get to hear DAJAE, but if you'll notice, 
most parties do not have the goodfortune to have live PAs and the 
promoters bringing this out in attempt to make good without a DJ is a move 
that might just get props from the likes of me.  although live PAs 
usually do not vary widely in styles played throughout the set so if 
you're not particularly into that type of music, or just not in the mood 
for it, it might not do much for you.  unfortunate, because setting up and 
performing a live PA takes about three times as much work on the day of 
the event for everyone involved, than having a dj.

> Grr...  Also, if you notice, I'm writing this at 4:45am.
> which means the party was, yes, shut down.

i'm sorry.  this list has discussed several times before the risk of going 
to a rave, underground or not vs. the "contract" a promoter serves to his 
"clients" the paying customers.

>  Let me say one thing about the
> space as well.  It was the same space that they used for the original mac
> street. And I didn't like the space then, and it was even worse this time
> (there was no cool green laser)  

sir, can you please be a bit more detailed?  what was it about the space 
that you didn't like?  you are not helping anybody on this list get an 
accurate picture of what this party was like or helping any promoters who 
are trying to throw better parties.  was it a warehouse? was it dirty? was 
it a moose lodge?  was it clean?  was it carpeted floors?  tile?  wood?  
was it small?  a roof?  a basement?  was it in any way dangerous?  did it 
have running water?  adequate ventilation?

> There were two things that saved this
> party from complete failure: the first was Vitamin D's set: absolutely
> amazing!  I loved that set and was actually beginning to like the party
> when alex jarvis came on.  I can't stand that guy.  

you can't stand that guy or his music?  i can't stand your post, but i'm 
sure you are a noble and friendly guy.

> The last mac street
> was my first party, and that was my motivation for going to this one:
> sorta a one-year anniversary of raving. But I'm regretting it.  

if you had *this* much fun at your first party, why the hell did you go
back? or did you have a really great time at your first party?  or, in the
course of a  year have you become part of the "raving elete"?  i had about
as much fun at my first phish concert and it was, consequentially, my
last.

> Okay, I
> mentioned that there were 2 things: and the other one is that Uniti did
> not get my money for this party.  I only paid nine bucks. And I paid it to
> some kids that claimed to have bought their tickets pre-sale.  But I kinda
> didn't believe that when I saw that they had about 30 of the green
> bracelets.  Nobody's going to buy 30 presale tickets! So uniti didn't get
> my money and I feel good about that. (sorry to anyone that's friends with
> mike stacy or anyone else from uniti- I just have never enjoyed one of
> their parties) 

i'm sorry if you got "taken" by some evil pranksters, but this is in no 
possible way cool.  if you didn't support the folks who threw the party 
that got you into raving, who did you support?  some crackhead prankster 
scavenger fiends?  much like people with bad vibes and bad attitudes, my 
scene has NO place for this kind of activity.  unfortunatley, in most 
cases the promoters cannot follow legal methods to see these kid of people 
brought to justice, but perhaps the alternative is just exactly what this 
kind of scum deserves.  if you had fun at this party or not, supporting 
this kind of bullshit is treason against those who work thier asses off 
for you.

> (well, off to the after-party now! it is free and catered after all)

no comment.



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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 23 13:27:28 1996
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Okay- 
 
i wasn't going to go to this party for a number of reasons... (one being that
it was $18)... but certain circumstances came up.. (like me getting in free),
so i went.. big mistake.. this party sucked.. oh my god it sucked.. the spot of
course was the same place as the original Mac Street last year (much better
party).. i got there about 11:00pm.. the music was really stoopid.. really lame
hip hop with not much energy.. this lasted for way too long.. then just when i
thought it might get good.. nope.. some crazy ppl way up on the dj level
started singing and carrying on.. really wack shit (sounded like church stuff)
after suffering that.. some house and alex jarvis playing at 3:00am!  this was
when i realized that no dj's showed.. No Robbie Hardkiss, no Joeski, no Spun, 
no Dajae (well.. who cares).. then too top all of this off.. busted at 4:00am!
yes.. all the poor ppl who paid $18 for crappy music, no headliners, and aan
early bust.. what a great way for uniti to end it's party days... sheesh.
 
the cops were completely horrible too.. they were thousands of them milling
about shining flashlights at ppl.. bugging everybody.. they busted about 9-10
kiddies in the bathrooms.. then decided to shut it down.. lamelamelame
 
i'll see all you guys at dustin's party....
 
							mark
							st. compton city

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 23 14:13:11 1996
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Hay anyone know how many people went??

I made the fortunate descision not to go.

About negative posts, tho, Uniti gets back what it gives - attitudes, bad
vibes, etc.

However, a ticket should have been paid for from the real ticket sellers,
irregardless of how good/bad a time you had.  Or else be comped in by the
*promoters*; despite speculation of Uniti pulling crackheaded stuff by
selling fake tickets to other parties and some other dumb, nasty shit - that
I doubt is true.

Coz I know if someone was doing that for Aquarius (coming up September 21st)
I'd be caning some skulls.

On the other hand, Uniti has made some phat cash with litle in exchange over
the last year, so part of me is like "that's a bit of the ol poetic justice
servin it up karma stylE".

Anyways, I had a rad time at Chris and Shawn's shindig last night!  That
Basement Boys track is killer!

earache

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From: Chris Sattinger <satti002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> (Chris Sattinger)
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>Dear sir, 
>
>        please do not post this kind of thing to this list.
what ?   

  normally, a party
>review would be fine, but the way you told me that you had a bad time
>1)was entirely based on your (not very well substantiated) opinion, and
>2)did not describe well enough things that went wrong in such a way that
>promoters could have gotten the message and fixed it next time. 

I'm not quite sure where you're criticism of his review is coming from. 
Most party reviews are pretty subjective, and as you see from the other
review of Whack Street, the party was truly whack and deserves to have its
evils described in detail.   Perhaps you want more gory detail ?  The smell
of the bathrooms, the completely lame feeling at the party ?       

>        watch.....
>
>On 23 Jun 96 at 4:45, Chris Ege wrote:
>> Okay, I've seen the lowest of the low.  This party should've never
>> happened. 
>
>first of all, didn't you post to this list a few hours beforehand that you 
>had "a bad feeling" about this "lame-ass party"?  yes, in fact, you did.  
>i would have personally recommended staying home and listening to mixtapes 
>or even just a NAP if you were in this foul of a mood. 

Foul mood ?    For weeks before the party ?   We all had a bad feeling
about it and most of us friends in Mpls.  did not go.  Chris stated that he
was going to go anyway to give it a chance and just for the hell of it.   
The party was bad, he stated that.     This is a bad attitude ?  A result
of his bad mood ?  The reason he had a bad time was because the party was
whack.  Not because he was moody or a bad person that just couldn't get
into the joy of RAVE RAVE RAVE beautiful RAVE.    How dare he be
dissapointed at having a whack party with    NO HEADLINERS SHOWING UP.  A
higher ticket price than any of the really decent parties in Mpls.   No
vibe, no decorations, no love being put into the thing.   
I'm sorry, my mistake.   We are all happy shiny raver people, all parties
are good.   The promoters work SOOOOO hard.      Look, we know who throws
good parties in Mpls. and we know who throws bad parties.   Obviously you
have not been paying attention to our Mpls. chat.    Why are you so
insistant on defending someone and their attempts to be a promoter when you
don't know thing one about it ?     What do you know about Uniti that we
don't know more about ?


 this kind of 
>attitude is a sure recipe for not having fun at *any* party and does 
>NOTHING for the vibe of the whole.   remember, you're not forced to go to 
>parties...and if you're gonna be there with this mindset, don't come hang 
>with me.



>> Especially that live pa that was a cover-up for the fact that DAJAE
>> WAS NOT THERE!  
>
>i'm deeply sorry that you did not get to hear DAJAE, but if you'll notice, 
>most parties do not have the goodfortune to have live PAs ......  unfortunate,
>because setting up and 
>performing a live PA takes about three times as much work on the day of 
>the event for everyone involved, than having a dj.

Dajae sings over a DAT tape.



>--star*

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Allow me to respond....

> 
> Dear sir, 
> 
> 	please do not post this kind of thing to this list.  normally, a party
> review would be fine, but the way you told me that you had a bad time
> 1)was entirely based on your (not very well substantiated) opinion, and

what review isn't based on opinion? That's what reviews are about! Stating
one's opinion of something- in this case it was my opinion of Mac Street
2.  And you are completely out of line saying that my opinion is
unsubstantiated.  You weren't at this party, and most likely you have
never been to a uniti party. So please don't tell me my opinion is wrong.

> 2)did not describe well enough things that went wrong in such a way that
> promoters could have gotten the message and fixed it next time. 

I have told the promoters in very precise terms many times before what was
wrong with their parties, and it doesn't change anything.  Their parties
have been consistently bad as long as I have gone to them.  At some point,
I reached a point where I just decided explaining faults that will fall to
deaf ears is a futile move.  Especially when the promoters don't read this
list- net.ravers are not stylish enough for them.

> first of all, didn't you post to this list a few hours beforehand that you 
> had "a bad feeling" about this "lame-ass party"?  yes, in fact, you did.  

No. I never called the party "lame-ass" before attending.  I did have a
bad feeling about the party- everyone did.  But I still decided to go.  

> i would have personally recommended staying home and listening to mixtapes 
> or even just a NAP if you were in this foul of a mood.  this kind of 
> attitude is a sure recipe for not having fun at *any* party and does 
> NOTHING for the vibe of the whole.   remember, you're not forced to go to 
> parties...and if you're gonna be there with this mindset, don't come hang 
> with me.

let me explain one thing about my mindset.  I come to every party with a
very open mind.  Any bad feelings I had about Mac Street were pushed out
of my head before I left for the map point.  I love the music, and I love
the people. So I give every party a chance. This party had its chance, and
failed miserably.  No, I wasn't forced to go to this party, but I DID want
to see some of the DJs (vitamin D and Robbie Hardkiss, a few others) So I
went. 

> i wasn't there, but i happen to LIKE hiphop (among other forms of music)
> and maybe some of the other people there did too.  did you know that
> there was going to be hiphop there?  did you make a decision to be where
> hiphop was being played?  so are you saying you had a bad time because of
> someone else decisions (the promoters' decision to have that act there)
> or your own (for not taking the aforementioned nap).  however, i trust
> that you're a reasonable fella and can give the class a better
> description of what it was about the "hip-hop shit" that made it so
> terrible.  or was it just your taste?

I wasn't making a judgement of hip-hop, I was making a judgement of the
QUALITY of the hip-hop that was played there. And as for other people
liking the hiphop, I kinda doubt it, judging from the lines heading for
the outdoor area (there was only an outdoor area because you couldn't
smoke inside) And I went to see the floor- 5 people dancing. FIVE PEOPLE!
SO don't tell me that it was just a problem I had.  Poor mixing, and just
bad tune selection is what made the hip-hop bad. 

> 
> i'm deeply sorry that you did not get to hear DAJAE, but if you'll notice, 
> most parties do not have the goodfortune to have live PAs and the 
> promoters bringing this out in attempt to make good without a DJ is a move 
> that might just get props from the likes of me.  although live PAs 
> usually do not vary widely in styles played throughout the set so if 
> you're not particularly into that type of music, or just not in the mood 
> for it, it might not do much for you.  unfortunate, because setting up and 
> performing a live PA takes about three times as much work on the day of 
> the event for everyone involved, than having a dj.

I understand the concept of live PAs, and the diffuculty involved in doing
one.  But apparently you misunderstood me.  I was complaining about a live
PA that did happen.  And everyone else was as well.  They just werent
good.  Yes, they were a replacement for another live PA that didn't
happen. But I really didn't care that Dajae wasn't there. I wasn't looking
forward to his set.

> i'm sorry.  this list has discussed several times before the risk of going 
> to a rave, underground or not vs. the "contract" a promoter serves to his 
> "clients" the paying customers.

I'm sure it has. However I haven't been on the list long enough to hear
any of those discussions.  But this shut-down was the fault of the
promoters.  This party was only there so that the drug dealer friends who
are backing uniti could sell lots of drugs.  Ths was NOT a praty targeted
at ravers- thos parties don't allow for huge profits.  This party was
aimed specifically at people who only go to raves to get high. And they
went a little too far, and because of it were shut down.  Yes, there is a
risk involved in going to a rave, but the risk can be kept to a minimum by
responsible work on behalf of the promoters.

> sir, can you please be a bit more detailed?  what was it about the space 
> that you didn't like?  you are not helping anybody on this list get an 
> accurate picture of what this party was like or helping any promoters who 
> are trying to throw better parties.  was it a warehouse? was it dirty? was 
> it a moose lodge?  was it clean?  was it carpeted floors?  tile?  wood?  
> was it small?  a roof?  a basement?  was it in any way dangerous?  did it 
> have running water?  adequate ventilation?

It was an arena. If that's not enough for you, it was a very big arena-
too big in fact.   It was very clean, which was a plus.  But it was about
3 times bigger than it needed to be, giving the impression that nobody was
there.  I personally don't like arenas, and if you find that to be a
fault, go right ahead and write to me in your condescending tone some
more.

> you can't stand that guy or his music?  i can't stand your post, but i'm 
> sure you are a noble and friendly guy.

I have never met alex jarvis in person.  But his choice of music is not
good, and the fact that he gets booked at every party despite the fact
that not many people like him is what I can't stand. 

> if you had *this* much fun at your first party, why the hell did you go
> back? or did you have a really great time at your first party?  or, in the
> course of a  year have you become part of the "raving elete"?  i had about
> as much fun at my first phish concert and it was, consequentially, my
> last.

I had a great time at my first party because it was my first party. In the
course of attending other, better parties, I realized that it was a bad
party.  But still I had good memories of it.  I don't understand your
statement about the "raving elite"  What in my post made you feel that I
am part of some elite group?  Well, I can assure you that i'm not.  There
is a very visible elite at every MN party, and I stay far away from these
people.  They are elite to the point that they won't even acknowlege you
if you say hi.  I tried it once, and they just gave me a look that said-
"you're not part of my group, and you'll never be cool enough to be part
of it. get lost."  This elite were the people involved in Mac Street 2.
And as for the cheap, fake tickets, I realize in hindsight that I probably
shoudn't have bought them.  But at the time, all I was thinking was "hey,
I can save myself some money!"  WHich might sound greedy, but when you're
as broke as I am, it's how things work.  I didn't even think that I was
screwing uniti out of my money until later.  And then when i was in a very
angry mood about the party, I said some things about the tickets that I
shouldn't have said.  I realize that it is not cool to do things like
that.  I sincerely apologize for it too.  

We seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot here.  I don't want to make
any enemies (although if Uniti read this, i'd have some enemies quick, if
they even care)  So please, don't take a bad view of me.  If we ever meet,
hopefully we can meet on friendly terms and become friends the way things
are *supposed* to happen in this scene.  If you are going to attack me any
more, please don't do it on the list- nobody else needs to hear our
fighting. But I hope you won't be attacking me. Like i've just said, I
dont want to make any enemies.  

That being said, my opinions are my opinions, and I will stick to them-
for now at least.

peace,

chris ege



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Okay.. Here's and easy solution.. If you don't like the promoters, aka, 
Uniti, and have had repeated bad experiences with their parties, then 
DON'T GO TO THEIR PARTIES ANYMORE!! Don't show your support, have you 
friends back you up and not support them, and if enough people decide to 
not show any support then eventually the promoters will get the idea that 
A.) Either they need to do somehting different about the way they throw 
parties, or B.) They will lose their investors, go broke and not throw 
anymore parties...

 Either way, a party is only a party, remember that.. there will ALWAYS 
be another party by another promoter and skipping one because of repeated 
bad experiences won't kill you, or kill your budget.. in fact, it may 
save you money, and employ your creativity to find another activty for 
the evening... So, use a lesson I've learned to use.. if you have a bad 
feeling about a party, instinctually, then don't go... Cause most likely 
your instincts are going to turn out right.. (kind of like the multiple 
choice test rule: the first answer you guess will usually be right, and 
changing your answer is a dumb idea)

  Thank god I'm in cincinnati, where the majority of the parties i go to 
are rocking!! =)

just my $.02

-Becky =)


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Sorry to whoever just got that post as an individual.. I meant that to go 
along wiht the WHACK STREET 2 posts, not yours.... 

Butin case you all didn't read the last one, here's what I said in a 
nutshell:

 If you've been repeatedly burned by one set of promoters aka Uniti, then 
why continue to support their parties?? If you and friends decide to not 
support them by not going to their parties anymore, and enough people 
follow your example, then two things may happen... 1.) The promoters will 
get a clue that they're doing something wrong and will change or 2.) They 
will go broke, lose their investors and stop throwing parties... Either 
way, you win... And your wallet wins, and your car wins...

 Please remember that a aprty is a party, and there will always be 
another.. It won't kill you to miss one party, especially if it's thrown 
by pormoters you've had bad experiences with.. It may even enable you to 
employ some creativity to find somehting else to do that nite, and save 
you money as well!! =) And also, learn to use a rule I've learned.. If 
you have a bad feeling about a party, then most likely, somehting is 
gonna happen.. If youv'e been in the scene long enough, one can usually 
detect something is going to happen, especially if it's in YOUR scene.. 
(like I don't really know a LOT about Chicago's scene, but i can usually 
tell what could go down around cincy/dayton/columbus/indy).. It's kinda 
like the multiple choice test rule: go with your first guess and instincts...

Thank god I live here... 

leaving in 2 days!!

-Becky =)


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>>Anyone that lives in chicago know what im talkingabout... The Chicago
>>Reader (a free weekly paper) has a full artical on evenfurther. the whole
>>fornt page and about 3 inside. it was actually ok. there was on acouple of
>>things that buged me (icouldnt go either:(...) but it said there was boose
>>there, and talked about it kinda ignorantly, but also as a experienced
>>party goer. i guess it has to do with who the artical was writen for--the
>>general public. oh yeah it also said that it was the countries largest
>>party...but i dont know for a fact but im sure there are larger parties
>>somewherein the country. after all there is atleast 3 other mega campout
>>3day parties. i stop my ranting.
>
>which reader is it (month wise - is it still on a monthly release?)?  i guess
>i should get a copy, huh?  i'd like to read it.
 no this isa newspaper, weekly, on newsprint. well its not a newspaper like
the tribune, but more of a enertainment nemspapaer, does that make sence.

ben when are you comeing up?

simple
aka christian



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Yeah,what he said.

Goes for me too!!!

Your wife to be is one lucky lady!!!  I hope you have the best time at your 
wedding!!!  

Keep the faith (and the vibe) alive.
 

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hey all, I'm looking for input for the site.
I need the following information for the re-creation of the site.

- A brief history of your area (st.louis, columbia, rolla, springfield,
  KC, etc.) in conjuction with the underground.
- A list of promoters who still promote regularly.
- A list of voice mail lines which are still in operation.
- A list of DJs no matter how "large" or "glamorous" or not.  These will
  be categorized by city and alphabetical order. 
- A list of legitimate recording labels, studios, and live acts
- A list of record shops (I guess deep grooves for st.l and groove
  selector for KC...) which often carry underground electronic music

All the information will be greatly appreciated and will be given proper
recognition.

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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hmmm i was going to discuss this a while back with the list, ewll mainly 
the mnpls peopple because it really pertains to them, but after hanging 
with my usual friends in mnpls, the people who seem to want and are 
trying to make a change, and then hanging with some of the people that 
like it ju7st the way it is, i've come to the conclusion that, by and 
far, the people who like it as it is outnumber those who want a change, 
and furthermore, the people who like it just as it is are people who 
generally display the following traits:

1. like nothing but house music.
2. like to hear the same house music over and over again 
3. like to talk about how good of a friend they are with such and such 
dj/promoter/whatever.
4. take personal offense to any suggestion that a dj's skills aren't up 
to par, e.g. a discussion i had with a girl about miss miss, and how i 
wasn't overly amazed by her style, and the girl refused to talk to me the 
rest of the night cuz i "disssed people i shouldn't even step to because 
they're bigger than i am and could squash me"


and i began to come to a conlusion that for the most part, people in 
mnpls just don't care or won't care. obviously people on this list from 
the twin cities are vocal and generally in favor of a change, but it 
seems that the majority are stagnating in "home town hero" headliners and 
"the minneapolis wall of sound" sort of crap that has been going on for 
some time now.   

so basically i'm not pointing fingers (i've already pointed fingers 
before and yes i hate uniti as well, but that's not the issue i'm 
focusing on) i'm just making an observation, and i am curious to see what 
tohers in the cities think on this issue.

dylan

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If you don't care much about the final transendence party that was thrown on
friday in toronto don't bother reading this, but i think that this party was
about as good as they can get.

Ok, we got there around 12, it was a two story old furniture store, nice site
for a rave.  They had two dance floors going on, on both floors.  I spent about
the entire time up their so my review will focus on that for the most part.

Ok, the vibe was good even when i walked in the door, either everyone began
rolling really early, which i don't think happend or the people there know how
to party.  Since i was up on the top floor it got pretty hot up there quickly.
But i couldn't believe it,  they opened the windows and turned on big ole fans.

Second they had a really good idea with the bathrooms.  Wow, they seperated the
toliets from the sink, it was such a good idea, no waiting in for the bathroom
when you only need water.  It didn't take but a minute to grab your water.

OK, i'm like really tired, but i have something important to tell you all.  I
saw i vibe inwhich i have never scene before in my life.  Their was a live P.A.
going, i think it was Physic Warriors but i'm not for sure.  If someone know
for sure who the second live P.A. was let me know.  Anyways first off they were
incredible. probably the high point of my rave life.  I have never felt so
good before.  These people were, the only thing i can say is WOW,  that's the
only thing i can say.  but during their set the power went out, but their
bongo player ketp going and then everyone else up there must have been into
it as much as i was, because we begin getting the beat together by clapping
and then other began putting some funky vocal on over that and we went off on
our own.  If that is not what a pure vibe is, i don't know what is.  Then the
power came back on and the got it going on again.

Please, and i say this with everything i have PLEASE someone bring them back
to north america.  i would easily drive 7 hours to see them again.

Anyways i think you catch on to what i am saying.

-- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

e-mail:  joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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All I can really say the day after is, "Why the fuck did I dish out $18 in 
the first place?"  I came to the party really excited to hear Vitamin D and 
Robbie Hardkiss, but when i got to the "home of the mighty ducks 3", I had 
to carry my 4 bottles of water in, because they wouldn't let me bring a 
bag in. I walked into a big arena with about 150-200 people standing in a 
circle watching two guys breakdancing to some shitty hip-hop over a very 
distorted sound system.  I've heard more bass at my grandmas listening to 
patsy kline on her portable stereo.  I couldn't even hear who was spinning, 
because the all you could here out of the PA was "awwww yeeeaaa whas up 
minneapolis?  blah blah blah...blah blah blah... Then when i found out that 
i couldn't smoke inside, and that i had to go into an area resembling a dog 
kennel, all fenced in, about 15ft.-15ft.   And patrolled by 3 of the mighty 
anoka county rangers.  There were about 10 other cops walking around with 
flashlights at the ready just walking around looking at people 
suspisciously.  I personally will never goto another Uniti party again!

just mt two cents,
Nate


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 23 17:30:12 1996
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i got stuck at home this weekend (although from the look of things, 
perhaps i didn't miss much at foundation) and spent FAR to much time in
front of my computer.  There are a few things i do well... climbing 
trees first and foremost, but also web design.  The result of my boredom:

i have written a rough prototype of a 'rave search engine'.  i will be
relocating my web site to a new server and getting the system set up in
the next few weeks.  It will accept submissions and store a small amount
of information (location, date, name, info line) about each party.  This
info can then be searched by anyone using the site.  Looking for a party
on the 12th? no problem.  In Indianapolis?  no problem.  Eventually (and
with another long and uneventful weekend) the system may even be 
searchable by DJ.  Flyers will be scanned and stored as well, called up
by the search engine to complete the limited info the system stores.

when the site first goes up, i will be accepting submissions for indy
events only... but if things go smoothly i will open it up completely.
i am still working those pesky little bugs out of it, and i want a fairly
low-traffic testing period.  :)

i could also use (i stole this shamelessly from Dan Smith... thank you!)
the following if you are interested in contributing:


- A brief history of your area (indianapolis, lafayette, evansville, 
etc. ) in conjuction with the underground.
- A list of promoters who still promote regularly.
- A list of voice mail lines which are still in operation.
- A list of DJs no matter how "large" or "glamorous" or not.  These will
  be categorized by city and alphabetical order.
- A list of legitimate recording labels, studios, and live acts
- A list of record shops which often carry underground electronic music


i would welcome help from those PUraves kids (chuck, jay, eric, jen,
cynthia, o'boyle, shannon etc...) and the information could be mirrored 
on both sites.

and thanks to BitWise solutions, inc.  for donating server space and
bandwidth for this project.


	maybe i should get out more,

		/> a n i e l  /-/ u l l
		raygun@purdue.edu

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On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Matthew Carl Joffe wrote:

> If you don't care much about the final transendence party that was thrown on
> friday in toronto don't bother reading this, but i think that this party was
> about as good as they can get.

ARGH!  Rub it in some more! :)  I'm down here in Milwaukee from the
Toronto area - and oh how do I miss it. :)

> Ok, the vibe was good even when i walked in the door, either everyone began
> rolling really early, which i don't think happend or the people there know how
> to party.  Since i was up on the top floor it got pretty hot up there quickly.
> But i couldn't believe it,  they opened the windows and turned on big ole fans.

Yeah.  There was a party at that spot a month or so before and the heat
was unbearable.  Trancendance really knows how to take care of their own.
I heard they did a great job of trying to cool the place down.

> Second they had a really good idea with the bathrooms.  Wow, they seperated the
> toliets from the sink, it was such a good idea, no waiting in for the bathroom
> when you only need water.  It didn't take but a minute to grab your water.

Yup - that sounds like our Trancendance.  I would say that they are (were)
the best promoters in Toronto by far.  Everyone else can take cue after
them.

> OK, i'm like really tired, but i have something important to tell you all.  I
> saw i vibe inwhich i have never scene before in my life.  Their was a live P.A.

If you're interestd in heading back to Toronto - I *might* be driving back
for Destiny 15 (Jul 12-15).  n case you didn't get a flyer at trancendance
- Juno REactor is headlining.  Check out Destiny's web page for more info.

> going, i think it was Physic Warriors but i'm not for sure.  If someone know
> for sure who the second live P.A. was let me know.  Anyways first off they were

Yup - Psychic Warriors ov Gaia it was... atleast that's what I heard.  Did
you like the group before them - Dubtribe?  I really want to see them
live, but I onlyhave to settle for the comments like "They rocked my
socks!" for now.

> incredible. probably the high point of my rave life.  I have never felt so
> good before.  These people were, the only thing i can say is WOW,  that's the
> only thing i can say.  but during their set the power went out, but their
> bongo player ketp going and then everyone else up there must have been into
> it as much as i was, because we begin getting the beat together by clapping
> and then other began putting some funky vocal on over that and we went off on
> our own.  If that is not what a pure vibe is, i don't know what is.  Then the
> power came back on and the got it going on again.

Hehe.. everyone on the WNYSOR (western new york, southern ontario rave
-list) is talking about that moment.  I'm beeming with pride for Toronto.

> Please, and i say this with everything i have PLEASE someone bring them back
> to north america.  i would easily drive 7 hours to see them again.

Aren't they heading this way?  I thought that they were on tour over here.

Glad you enjoyed yourself...

Peace, Love, and Transient dreams...

	tom


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At 07:28 PM 6/23/96 -0700, Daniel Hull <raygun@purdue.edu> wrote:

>when the site first goes up, i will be accepting submissions for indy
>events only... but if things go smoothly i will open it up completely.
>i am still working those pesky little bugs out of it, and i want a fairly
>low-traffic testing period.  :)

Not to stiffle creativity, but what you are doing sounds a lot like
GRID, the Global Rave Information Database, at
http://hyperreal.com/raves/grid/.



Andrew
--
   Andrew Bennett
   abennett@hyperreal.com, abennett@cruzio.com
   http://taz.hyperreal.com/~abennett/

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<Rave Search Engine info snipped>

This sounds like a wicked idea.  There are a tremendous amount of
"calanders" out there - but I think the engine would be a easier way to do
things provided you have the help of a server somewhere.

Anyhow - is this going to be a world-wide available thing?  or is it only
going to take parties in your area?  Food for thought - hell, I know lots
of people that will use it.

Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...

	tom


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                       The FreeBass Collective presents

                           Summer of Love 1969-1996
                            Friday June 28th, 1996
                             Milwaukee, Wisconsin
                                     FREE!!!

                            Urban Shamans include:

                  jedidiah  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                  jethrox  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                     dzak  Toolbox Tunes, Milwaukee, WI

                               kee  Madison, WI

           karma one  The FreeBass Collective/Network 10, Milwaukee, WI

    shira khan  a.k.a. mouse  The FreeBass Collective/Phreakzine, Milwaukee, WI

                phranque  The FreeBass Collective/CIB Milwaukee, WI


The FreeBass Collective is going to tear the scene a new asshole this
summer by throwing a series of FREE parties all summer long in the Home of
the HardCorps, Milwaukee, Wisconsin to show all the greedy entities that we
DO NOT need them polluting and stagnating OUR scene!!!  This is the kickoff
party!!!  Don't miss it!!!

            for more info check The FreeBass Collective web site at
            http://www.execpc.com/~blitz or e-mail blitz@execpc.com
                    or call 414.256.1350 the day of the party

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
  The cutting edge is found only in the morphing shadows of the underground
 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

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>If you don't care much about the final transendence party that was thrown on

>OK, i'm like really tired, but i have something important to tell you all.  I
>saw i vibe inwhich i have never scene before in my life.  Their was a live P.A.
>going, i think it was Physic Warriors but i'm not for sure.  If someone know
>for sure who the second live P.A. was let me know.  Anyways first off they were
>incredible. probably the high point of my rave life.  I have never felt so
>good before.  These people were, the only thing i can say is WOW,  that's the
>only thing i can say.  but during their set the power went out, but their
>bongo player ketp going and then everyone else up there must have been into
>it as much as i was, because we begin getting the beat together by clapping
>and then other began putting some funky vocal on over that and we went off on
>our own.  If that is not what a pure vibe is, i don't know what is.  Then the
>power came back on and the got it going on again.

if it was a "bongo player" it was prolly dubtribe...since dubtribe played
at this party and they have a guy that plays the bongos or something.  damn
i'm upset i missed this party...

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 23 19:02:42 1996
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On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:

> if it was a "bongo player" it was prolly dubtribe...since dubtribe played
> at this party and they have a guy that plays the bongos or something.  damn
> i'm upset i missed this party...

I'm not 1oo% sure - but I think it was just another raver that was playing
along.  I could be wrong as I said.  there are a couple of guys up there
that bring their drums with them to the parties - makes for a wicked find
in the back dark corner of a chill room somewhere. *twitch*. ;)

Peace...

	tOM


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hey guys, i just wanted to let ya all know to check out my homepage for my
recent addition.

it has a link to the invite to this party in celebration of bruce's
marriage THIS saturday, and it is by far the most darling little invite, so
i had to put it up on my page. so check it out from my page or at:

http://charlotte.acns.nwu.edu/keight/marriage.html


see you at the party!

kate O+

*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
 softcore geek girl
 http://charlotte.acns.nwu.edu/keight/

 



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hahahaha...doesnt this ring a bell girls? ;)
And don't try and deny it boys...cuz we all know this is true. ;P
>
>Top 10 reasons computers must be male: 
>========================================
>
>10. They have a lot of data but are still clueless. 
>9.  A better model is always just around the corner.
>8.  They look nice and shiny until you bring them home. 
>7.  It is always necessary to have a backup.
>6.  They'll do whatever you say if you push the right buttons.
>5.  The best part of having either one is the games you can play. 
>4.  In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on.
>3.  The lights are on but nobody's home.
>2.  Big power surges knock them out for the night. 
>1.  Size does matter
>
>
>
>


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Hx>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:
>
> > if it was a "bongo player" it was prolly dubtribe...since dubtribe played
> > at this party and they have a guy that plays the bongos or something.  damn
> > i'm upset i missed this party...
>
> I'm not 1oo% sure - but I think it was just another raver that was playing
> along.  I could be wrong as I said.  there are a couple of guys up there
> that bring their drums with them to the parties - makes for a wicked find
> in the back dark corner of a chill room somewhere. *twitch*. ;)

No the bongo player was deffinlty with the rest of them,  they had it miked
and all that.  Sorry that i forgot to say anything about the first pa upstairs
too,  They were inredible too but i was busy helping out a friend so i only
got to see the last 20 minutes of them.

How come we rarely have live pa's and they had 3 that night.  2 upstairs,
dubtribe, physic warriors and the digital underground.  that's worth about $18
alone.

joff




> > Peace... > >     tOM > >


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Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

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there are so many good free parties in the midwest... think long and hard 
if you really want to go spend fifteen bucks on the off-chance that the 
money will actually go to providing a good party with a good location and 
good equipemnt, rather than into some promoter$ pocket


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There's been a lot of talk about not going to parties.  Most of the
arguments go like this:

Why go to parties if you know they're going to suck? Don support someone
if you don't like them.  The world isn't going to end if you miss one
party.  

Well, it hurts when I get all these messages, becuase what are these
people thinking? Do they think I'm stupid? DO they think I go to parties
just to go to parties? No. I never go to a party unless I have good reason
to.  In the case of Mac Street 2- the party that has brought up much
contention on this list- I went for two very specific reasons: One- the
original mac street was my first rave ever, and I wanted to do the
one-year anniversary thang. Two- I wanted to hear Vitamin D spin.  So
please don't assume that I'm an idiot. I go to parties for specific
reasons. Usually it's because of the reason "I think it'll be good" but
sometimes I know a party's gonna be pretty bad and yet I go- the reasoning
here is not "it's a party, i have to go" It's something specific- usually
a DJ. In the case of summer daze, it was the fact that I had just gotten
out of school. And I actually had a lot of fun at that party.  If a party
looks bad and I cant find a reason to go, I don't hesitate to stay home.
Now lets talk about one-der.  My reson for going to this party (unless I
can talk friends into travelling) will be "my friends want to go"  And I
see this as a legit reason because even though the party will be pretty
lame (most likely- but who knows?) I will have a good time because I'll be
with very good friends and even in the worst of situations we can have
fun. Okay? The bottom line is this, and I'm gonna cut it short because I'm
rambling bad again- I don't go to parties just to go. I'm not stupid
enough to drop my money on a bad party unless I have a reason to.

thanks,

chris e


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> 1. like nothing but house music.
this might not be the case. I think that the problem is the promoters only
like to hear house music.  And a lot of the minneapolis ravers have never
been out of minneapolis and thus have never heard anything other than
house.  So they don't know any better.
> 2. like to hear the same house music over and over again 
Same thing here.  There are some really innovative house DJs that never
get booked here in minneapolis becuase the "big 3" minneapolis promoters
won't book them. They're stuck in the cajual/relief records DJ rut and a
lot of people don't know any better.
> 3. like to talk about how good of a friend they are with such and such 
> dj/promoter/whatever.
Yeah- there's a lot of elitism and name-dropping in this city.  and it
pisses me off. But what am I going to do about it, tell people to stop?
> 4. take personal offense to any suggestion that a dj's skills aren't up 
> to par, e.g. a discussion i had with a girl about miss miss, and how i 
> wasn't overly amazed by her style, and the girl refused to talk to me the 
> rest of the night cuz i "disssed people i shouldn't even step to because 
> they're bigger than i am and could squash me"
Yeah. Miss Miss could squash you. Apollo could squash you. Alex Jarvis
could squash you. Hell, Jason G could squash you.  But what the fuck does
it mean to squash someone?  What, are they not going to let you buy
tickets to their parties? I can see DJs being "blacklisted", I suppose. I
think it all comes down to this: there's too much attitude in minneapolis.
Way too much.  It's been proven that there doesn't have to be attitude:
take a look at critical mass or reactor or bubbilicious.  Attitude-free
parties. But they're few and far between. And if I was to skip every party
that was thrown by a promoter I don't like, I'd go to a praty once every 3
months!  Hopefully I'll be able to avoid some of the really bad ones and
travel to wisconsin for some *good* parties.

> and i began to come to a conlusion that for the most part, people in 
> mnpls just don't care or won't care. obviously people on this list from 
> the twin cities are vocal and generally in favor of a change, but it 
> seems that the majority are stagnating in "home town hero" headliners and 
> "the minneapolis wall of sound" sort of crap that has been going on for 
> some time now.   

Exactly!  And another problem that I'v discovered is that the scene gets
even wors in the summer.  In the winter, it's mainly the hardcore ravers
that are at the parties.  The friendly people that are there for the music
and hopefully the vibe.  But then the summer comes. and the "big 3"  say
that "the scene is blowing up!" but there's no more ravers to come to the
parties.  And so where is the blow-up coming from? Kids who are out of
school and go to raves because there's lots of drugs.  So basically the
summer parties are all the great people with about 300 more people that
are only there to get high. That is the problem as I see it.

I've been doing too much bitching lately, and I'll try to keep it under
control from now on.  I think we need some more fliers like the aquarius
one that earache was passing out though.  Hopefully people will read it
and understand.

(chris pulls out some duct tape and tapes his big mouth shut)

Chris E


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hello my name is mike davis    i am addicted to raving    i go to raves
because i thoroughly enjoy the music.  i also attend because i enjoy
meeting people, listening to different types of music, and experimenting
with various drugs among other things.  the reason i attended my first
"rave" is because of curiosity.  the second because i wanted to "find"
drugs  the third  because of the music.   i now go because of the music
solely.   Whose parties do i go to?   Anyone who has proven themselves
"worthy" of me attending their party.  This means basically anyone who has
provided good music selection, good space, and/or has a good reputation.
Reason being:  if you do not have these why go?   i usually choose whether
to go to a milwaukee area party based on who is throwing
it...if promoter has a good reputation with me then i look at
the lineup...if lineup is good then i decide based on the space
if the space is not good i wont go.....every once in a while i go to party
based on only a good lineup   well not anymore  Generations left the worst
taste in my mouth.  if you find someone or some "crew" that did not throw
a good party  DO NOT support them again.  warn your friends about them
but if you do go to a party being thrown by someone who has thrown a
few shitty parties in a row and it turns out being shitty  IT IS YOUR OWN
FUCKING FAULT   do not go and whine and bitch and moan about it to the
mailing list   you should private email them   better yet   (sarcasticly)
leave a message on their voicemail     this actually does wonders   leave
suggestions...if you happen to run across a kickin space when you are
traveling down the highway and are not interested/dont have enough money
to throw a party  leave the address of the space on the voicemail   this
helps out the promoter

sorry about the rambling  
im just sick and tired of hearing how shitty promoters are "stealing" our
money (uniti and whomever else this applies to)   ive never been to a
minneapolis party and i know that uniti is bunk as hell   i thoguht for
about five minutes on whether to go to mac street 2    then i saw uniti's
name and i said this will be a bunk party

well all have fun and support your local scenes

to all you promoters out there   start small and earn a reputation   if
you fail you sorta "deserve " it  it takes years to make a name for
yourself

mikey d



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>How come we rarely have live pa's and they had 3 that night.  2 upstairs,
>dubtribe, physic warriors and the digital underground.  that's worth about $18
>alone.

whoa there, pardner.  *digital underground*??  no no no, not the hip hop
pranksters that brought us "the humpty dance" and urged us to
"doowhatchalike".  you prolly mean *underground resistance*, as rolando,
james pennington, and aux 88 were *supposed* to be playing at this party.
btw did anyone hear if derrick may spun or not??

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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Well to settle the score on the whole Uniti bit ...

For people who have never partied in Minneapolis for the last year don't
have a clue as to what we are/have been going through.

Uniti ripped off not only the rave scene, but the hip-hop scene too.  There
were, evidently, TWO flyers for Mac Street 2 - one for the ravers and one
for the hip-hop kidz.  Uniti failed to deliver on both counts.

Other Uniti bullshit - shutting down their parties because they were too
drunk to keep on going on, faking ticketz to other parties, bad mouthing
other promoters (who, imho, throw WAY better parties and don't deserve any
kind of negative vibe thrown their direction), etc.

Not to mention that they don't give a shit about their parties and it SHOWS.
They've played us minneapolis kids as suckers and it's bullshit.

And for people who say "Well just don't go" - that works in Chicago and
Milwaukee because you have other things to do and other places to go.  You
try to find something good to dance to on a Saturday night in Minneapolis.
You aren't going to find it.

BurrrRRRrrrp.

So there. :)  Things here aren't what they could be or had been at one point.

            __ earache's guide to minneapolis promoters to avoid __

1. Uniti
2. Minneapolis Soul Music
3. E-Wrecked
4. Encore

To be fair, people really liked Encore's Shock party.  I had a boring ass
time at new years.

           __ how to tell if a minneapolis party is going to suck __

1. It has a stupid name (mac street, sensual pulse, spundae, one-der, etc.)
2. The flyer is done by project 2000
3. The vibeonauts or Superstars of Love's voice mail # is on it.  
4. Local support is provided by the Minneapolis Soul Music Squad (no one in
their right mind would EVER book Jason G.)
5. The flyer gives "mad props" to alex jarvis.
6. The flyer states "the premier light show of the midwest"
7. The name of the party is mispelled on accident on the flyer (but the
promoters think they got it right)
8. If somewhere on the flyer is printed: encore, uniti, rollex, minneapolis
soul music
9. If it just seems to good to be true (minus Aquarius ;)
10. If the guy on the voice mail sounds whiter than Lawrence Welk but he's
throwin out that young urban slang.

Hehe.  Politics are for morons and people with little minds.

earache

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party info sent from a non-listmember...

have a splendid day...gage...

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                           CRUNCH
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Hiya folks... random thoughts as they enter my mind...

Rainbow Gathering. DBN? Generation ov Noize? Freebass? Let's go! I totally
want to check this thing out, never been to a Rainbow event. Any mw-ravers
want to make this a group thing? If one person replies we'll take a car...
if 25 reply hell mebbe we should set up a tent. Anyhoo it sound better
than trying to figure out what campout rave will actually come close to
Even Furthur on the weekend after July 4... how about trying something new
and a bit different instead? Email me if ya wanna go or are already
going...

...as far as adminning this list it goes like this: it'll take a lot
before I ask people to stop a thread. Basically the way StevenJ ran
things. On some other lists managers will say "please take this off-list",
but I figure this is a mailing list for mw-ravers and whatever the hell we
want to talk about. Now personal insults or crap like that may get
attention, but although I personally don't neeed to see it, I'm not going
to ask people to shut up if they come home from a bad party experience and
need to vent some steam. I'm glad in the recent Mac St 2 flap Mr Star
responded with a level head and things got figured out instead of us all
witnessing yet another unconstructive flame session...

...in other list news if I get bounced mail that says your account was
deleted I will unsubscribe you. If I get bounced mail that says your
mailbox is full and not accepting new messages, I'll throw a couple days
slack in there, but if you seem to have been "mysteriously" unsubbed, this
is probably what happened. Also, mail that's sent to
mw-raves@hyperreal.com from an address that is not subscribed to the list,
it comes to me first so I can "approve" it for posting, so if you send
something from a non-listmember address, that's why it takes a while for
the message to show up. If anybody is in some weird circumstance where
they find themselves sending mail to mw-raves from a different account
often write me and we'll work it all out.

...hmm I think that's it... too bad nobody made it down for our little
house party. It was quite phat. I got to watch a live acid performance
with 2 303's, a 909, an SH-101, and lotsa gear with cool knobs, and MOTV
scratched some amazing acid. Joaquin and Mark represented the local talent
and did quite nicely... come down for the next one! It's not everyday you
can throw down right in front of everything with all the space you want
after all the Beer Kids have left...

...I'm going home to bed. seeya all later.

...gage...

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mailto:j-gage@uiuc.edu                           voicephone://217-328-9685
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On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:

> whoa there, pardner.  *digital underground*??  no no no, not the hip hop
> pranksters that brought us "the humpty dance" and urged us to
> "doowhatchalike".  you prolly mean *underground resistance*, as rolando,
> james pennington, and aux 88 were *supposed* to be playing at this party.

Hehe.. I'm glad someone else caught that because it slipped by me.  Yes -
it was Underground Resistance.

> btw did anyone hear if derrick may spun or not??

I don't think he was scheduled to play at all.  I don't remmeber him being
on the flyer.

Peace...

	tom


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*sigh* Okay, response time...


On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Chris Ege wrote:

> 
> There's been a lot of talk about not going to parties.  Most of the
> arguments go like this:
> 
> Why go to parties if you know they're going to suck? Don support someone
> if you don't like them.  The world isn't going to end if you miss one
> party.  
> 
> Well, it hurts when I get all these messages, becuase what are these
> people thinking? Do they think I'm stupid? DO they think I go to parties
> just to go to parties?

  Chris dear, I honestly don't know a hting about you because I've never 
met you before. Sono, I don't think you're stupid and I don't know 
whether or not you go to go or what... I was just making my opinion and 
thoughts known, and expressing them.. The same way you were expressing 
yours... I can understand the one year anniversary thing.. You know what 
_I_ did on my one year anniversary of raving?? I skipped a party I really 
wanted to go to to stay home and watch movies.. So, trust me, I DO 
understand... But that's not the point, bitching about 1 year 
anniversaries and stuff...

 My comments were not directed JUSt at you, but towards the whole list, 
and to anyone who's had repeated BAD experiences with certain promoters...

 Just a thought, is one person/dj at a party REALLY a good reason to 
shell out $15-20 for a nite? For that much money, you could take a cute 
raver girl to a movie and share a big bowl of popcorn and a Coke... =) 
And that investment might get you somewhere... ;) At least a friend, if 
not more...

 Once again, this is not directed soley at you Chris, but instead at the 
whole list...

just my $.02

-Becky =)


  


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> Just a thought, is one person/dj at a party REALLY a good reason to
>shell out $15-20 for a nite?

oftentimes, yes.

>For that much money, you could take a cute
>raver girl to a movie and share a big bowl of popcorn and a Coke... =)

all this talk of supporting shady promoters...where does our money go etc
etc...now we have "good promoters vs. bad promoters vs. multi-million
dollar multinational corporations".  hmm.  on second thought maybe i won't
get *this* thread going...anyway coke has those neat billboards out now
that say "R U ON E? refuel with coke"  hahahahaha.

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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On 24 Jun 96 at 11:17, michael mccusty wrote:

> bring back checkerboard sleeves,


and what ever am i to do with all these really rad soccer jerseys i have 
from two years ago?
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If any dj or tape owner has any good stomping hardhouse tapes..
let me know..

Stomp

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Sorry, i'm laughing my ass off right now, i can't believe what i wrote in my
last letter.  I was working off of 8 hours of sleep in the last 80 some hours
about, yes it was underground resistance, i apologize to them for even having a
thought of calling them digital underground.  I probably should be banned from
posting anything for a week or two  ;)

anyways they were great too.  The live pa's wree the highlight of the night.
Promoters please bring in more live pa's to parties, atleast to the Detroit
area.

 -- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 24 11:59:07 1996
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I have one last question i forgot to ask but it has been bugging because
eveyone i went with keeps saying they weren't paying attention.  After dubtribe
did their set, i really thought that the dj after them played several of the
songs.  Maybe i am wrong, i was really out of it after there set, dehyrdrated
and everything else, but i swear he was playing some of thier songs.

If he was, why was he doing that, it seems a little lame to me to be spinning
songs you just heard a little bit ago


 -- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

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Sat 6/22/96

i was looking forward to a evening of all jungle. eventhough i didnt get an
all jungle party like i thought(im not familliar with all of the dj that
were there.) the party was only $10 and was in prob. aboutthe best space
ive seen in chicago or just period. and i give mad props to zvi(who though
the the party as far as i know). it was on of the best parties ive been to.
and im really impressed withthe space.

it was at abstract muzic on the southside. (a virgin space.:)) the main
room was inthe basement, concrete wearwhouse feel. and a 2nd room upstairs
with carpet (and it was clean!) there was a video projection.  pretty cool.
nice 3dcomputer animation. it was seemed like it was orginal not those
cheesey video tapes.

djs. sorry i dont know who the djs i was spin were, but i know that
kingsize didnt get to spin. along with most of the other djs listed. b/c it
was busted around 3/4am. fuck i hate chicago police! i guess a neighbor
called and said beer was beeing sold to minors.

it wasnt very crouded. there was a really good vibe at the party. it was
very chill. i didnt go toany after hours b/c i dont havea car so it made it
kinda difficult to run around town at 4 in the morning on a bus. i dont
think very manny people or anyone from out of town came. i also think that
most ppl went to trancendance at the beutifull route 66.

so well, maybe the nexttime it will last.

[simple]



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 24 12:36:02 1996
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First off, this was intended to be Uniti's last party.    That's the end of
that, fear Mpls. parties no more.    Don't listen to Earache, Shock was
cool (could've been cooler), One-der will be cool.     Gotta fucking love
the hardcore though !

The use of the word Hip-Hop is perhaps wrong.   I am now under the
impression it wasa lot of top 40 R&B.   The PA in question was the daughter
of Ray Charles and went on for an hour.     The Hip Hop party was fliered
separately to a different crowd, the rave was supposed to follow the Hip
Hop party.   Schedule got fucked up (uniti as usual), the rave didn't get
under way until 1 or so.    Turnout for the Hip HOp party was poor, no
dancing to speak of.    
Also, if you bought tickets from the Hip Hop end, it cost 12$ , if you
bought tickets for the same party from the rave end, it cost 18$.

Trax was there, didn't spin, Vitamin D and I think Joeski did in fact spin.
  No Robbie Hardkiss, Dajae (who is the singer, a woman btw. :  Chris ;) 
), On -E whoever else was listed.    Every single person I talked to
including DJs and promoters vaguely involved with it describe the whole
night as a night mare.
End of story, end of Uniti I hope.

  Over and Out.

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 24 13:15:13 1996
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Well, it's interesting that such a money-making venture as uniti is just
quitting.  Chris, (Sattinger) can you tell us why?  And do you know where
I can get a copy of the hip-hop flier for mac street 2?  And just out of
curiosity, whay kind of places got the hip-hop fliers?  I've got to say,
it's bad to see any promoter go, even uniti.  But hearing all the
shenanigans (spelling?) that went on with Mac Street is just appalling.
And if Robbie Hardkiss wasn't even there, why did they keep insisting that
he would play at the afterparty?  Uniti has a lot to answer for, and I'm
sure we'll never get the answers.  And one more thing- why did they refer
to the cops repeatedly as "yogi bear"???  Oh well, questions that I'll
never get answers to.

Chris E



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Well, since every else had a really bad time this weekend, I'd like to say
I had a great time.  :)  This saturday was "By Your Command" a cute party
put together by the manager of (yes...) Heresy, the local "raver-friendly"
club here in Lexington.  Aside from the fact that it was the same old
space... There were lots of positive things about this little event.

First of all, it's really nice to see that Lexington is once again
expanding in terms of new people coming out to parties.  I think I saw more
new people daturday night than I have since 1993.  YAY!!

Second, was that everyone put a lot of energy into salvaging the evening.
This was Mark's (the manager) first party of any signifigance and he pulled
it off.  *claps*

Thirdly, people actually stayed until pretty late (unheard of in Lexington).

Fourth, there were some damn good performances by Lexington Djs all of
which have moved along really quickly as far as skill and style goes...

Fifth, some Louisville people came up and partied as well, good to see them
again.

Some Negative points about the party (they had to be there somewhere
right???)  First off I have to say that I hate the Dj set up there...
completely isolated from the crowd... blehk!  And the sound was in-house so
fairly lame, but it hadn't sounded so good before this so maybe it's a
sign?  No free water... Mark promises me this will not be the case at
FOREVER this weekend.  And that's about all I can think of right now.

I know some of you Lexi-net ravers were there too so help me out if I
missed anything.  All in all, I had a great time... Managed to get rid of
some 4 huge bags of pixy stix :)  *just making sure everyone has enough
energy to dance*  Anyway, it was a good omen for next weekend.  Hope this
trend continues...

See you all at FOREVER (remember... it's FREE)


            Peace LOVE Unity Respect  (PLURality)  -- Kell


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  if u are a dj and would be interested in getting a booking, contact me.  i 
will be doing large events near the end of the summer in the pa/nyc area.  
email me if ur interested and i will provide contact numbers.

   UK RICK (UFO Productions)



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Freedom '96 by scotto & alan sanctuary!

i'm not touching this w/ a ten foot pole! stevie recalling the
Ravestock '95 flame wars for simply posting the line-up!
i still do not work for scotto!

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So everybody is bitching because some bad parties went down last
weekend... ppl are talking about promoters they hate and all that... so
how about some netravers get together and throw shit?

Seems like a straightforward solution. I don't know about the rest of
y'all, but mw-raves is like family to me, and if I saw fellow netravers
really trying hard to throw a good event I'd certainly choose to go and
support them over whatever else might be going on that night.

-jeff (who wishes he lived in a large city so he could meet ravers in the
      flesh and throw parties...)

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Matthew Carl Joffe <joffemat@pilot.msu.edu> said:

:anyways they were great too.  The live pa's wree the highlight of the
night.
:Promoters please bring in more live pa's to parties, atleast to the
Detroit
:area.

Actually, that's been one of the things I've been happiest about in
Detroit lately.  In just the last year, there have been live PA's
at various parties and clubs by Model 500, Carl Craig, Ectomorph,
Dan Bell, Robert Hood, Claude Young, Autechre, Alec Empire, Aux 88,
Himadri,  Sean Deason, Khan/Bizz O.D., and those are just
the ones I saw.

Live PA's are a bit of a risk to both performer and promoter --
equipment problems, power problems, etc. can cause chaos.
But it's always great to see a performer walking that tightrope.

  -d.w.
  honorary cylon


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frankzero sed:
==================================================================
Well, lets see if my brain can handle trying to wrap up two of the most
intense days of my life in some sort of coherent concise grammatically
correct form.  Obviously, at this point, it can't... so here's the shit:

friday 5 pm get off work, head to OHIO for ACTIVE NOT PASSIVE an ele mental
party where i'm booked to spin...  arrive in ohio at 10:50, some people are
in this MAD HUGE tallll ass beautiful architecture studio space, and
basically i just chilled by myself for most of the evening.  played two sets
(one ok early night one and one shitty morning one) and met the COOOOOLEST
people!!! Kaykay, Satya, Brad/Ecto, Eluna, among others (dur brain futz now)
also, saw mike/allroy and jeff/stuff yay and this super cutie with jeff, her
name was mary.  I had a pretty fab time at this party, basically, what you
need to get out of this is
===================================================================== 

brad/ecto wuz there!! ahh!! i missed him when he wuz @ the last 
Trancendance in toronto! speakin o which, did anyone trek to that
party. it wuz on the same night as ACTIVE NOT PASSIVE & wuz s'posed
to be the last one - or atleast the last one before their change.
purdy phatty line-up too: the UR crew (aux88, rolando, suburban
knight) plus alchemist, eric downer, andy roberts, alorhythm, and
psychic warriors of gaia AND dubtribe live! remember dat trip 
jeff/stuff & mary went too.

i guess it serves me right for spending all that time up on the
roof @ ACTIVE NOT PASSIVE w/ christa - but it wuz definitely the
best view in the house (stars up above & ed tossing his cymbals
down below). props to satya for showing us the primo make-out
spot. it wuz more fun than the architecture class rooms last time!
so now kell & kevy know why stevie had such li'l recall of the 
music @ CHARM!

======================================================================
ELE MENTAL KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK IS UP!!! :) Eluna is the shit, and his
parties are FUN and WACKY!  GOOOOOOOOOO!!! if you get a chance, ever, to
make it to an ele mental party, by all means, do it! :) you will NOT regret
it :)
====================================================================== 

if u think ed is kewl, u should meet charles's mom! i thought ed's
mom would be cooler but she backed out from becoming gaga's newest
member cuz she had prior engagements down south - her fame has
crossed the border. ed will never live up to his mom's prominence =) !


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Are you saying that Champange-Urbana is not a large population center for
youth?  Its a large college town.  What you need is:
A space. 
A proper sound system with proper turntables and mixing board.
Maybe some chill lighting (lasers arent necessary or realistic)
Patience.
Talent on the decks. (dont need a big name though.)
Tunes to play.

Then the audience will come.  Its not an overnight sensation.  No one
should just blindly belive in this.  Jeff, you seem smart enough.  But one
last then you need is:

TIME


Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
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werd jeff. too bad i dont have the connectionsor the resources to do that.

simple
312.


>So everybody is bitching because some bad parties went down last
>weekend... ppl are talking about promoters they hate and all that... so
>how about some netravers get together and throw shit?
>
>Seems like a straightforward solution. I don't know about the rest of
>y'all, but mw-raves is like family to me, and if I saw fellow netravers
>really trying hard to throw a good event I'd certainly choose to go and
>support them over whatever else might be going on that night.
>
>-jeff (who wishes he lived in a large city so he could meet ravers in the
>      flesh and throw parties...)
>
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>mailto:j-gage@uiuc.edu                           voicephone://217-328-9685
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    ================= Begin forwarded message =================

    From: usfmd3pv@ibmmail.com (Jim Zim                          USAET(UTC -04:00))
    To: syt@po.CWRU.Edu
    Subject: Aug 17 '96 Party
    Date: Mon, 24 Jun

    
    
    Hi again stevie t!  Ok, here's the lowdown:                                     
    
    ------------------------ BEGINNING OF PARTY INFO -----------------------------  
    
                                   NIGHTCAP II                                      
                                 AUGUST 17, 1996                                    
                              DETROIT 313-602-3445                                  
    
    It's the 2nd annual pajama party hosted again by our friend T.C.  NIGHTCAP I    
    was the first ever pajama party in Detroit, probably in the world!, and #2 is   
    gonna be bigger and better!                                                     
    
    Cost: $17 at the door, call info line for directions and info on advance        
    tickets.  Following is some of the entertainment planned for the evening:       
    
       DJ's:  CLAUDE YOUNG              - DETROIT                                   
              TRAXX                     - CHICAGO                                   
              ROLANDO                   - DETROIT UR                                
              SUBURBAN KNIGHT           - DETROIT UR                                
              WILL WEBB                 - DETROIT DIRECT BEAT                       
              CHUCK HAMPTON             - ANN ARBOR                                 
              BIG JOE HIX               - TWYLITE PRODUCTIONS, DETROIT              
              DJ D.C.                   - CANADA                                    
              BUZZ BANGIN' GOREE        - DETROIT NIGHT GROOVE RECORDS              
              MARK FLASH                - DETROIT UR                                
    
              MORE DJ's TBA                                                         
    
          and witness fantastic psychadelic visuals created by the sound waves      
              from the DJ's as VJ ZMAN guides the god CTHUGHA thru his PC and       
              out to you!                                                           
    
    ----------------------------- END OF PARTY INFO ------------------------------  
    
    Thanx alot Steve!  Let me know the next time you are going to be in the Detroit 
    area, maybe we can meet b4 or at a party, or maybe you can come to St. Andrews  
    Hall some friday night when I'm working there.                                  
    
    Peace!                                                                          
    INTERNET:  USFMD3PV@IBMMAIL.COM                                                 
    
    

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It's Monday afternoon, kids.  And that means it's time for another 
one of Patrick's overly analytical, pseudo-philosophical, quasi-
psychological posts.  

If you'd rather not read it, hit 'd' now.  If 'd' isn't your delete
key, then you're not using RMAIL in Emacs and you are evil. ;) Just
kidding...

----------
One of the coolest things I've found in the rave culture is smiling...
Back in the winter when I did my first web search on "rave", I found
some good background info on the scene, what it was about, etc.  At
first, I thought the smiling part was kinda corny, but I quickly got
over that.

It seems that when I get interested in something, the something
approaches me from several directions almost simultaneously.  One
direction was from reading this rave info.  Another was through a book
I've been reading recently called _Peace is Every Step_ by Thich Nhat
Hanh.  This guy is cool!  In the book, he extols the merits of
practicing "breathing and smiling".  Apparently, when you smile (even
if you're unhappy), it sets off a series of calming mental and
physical states.  Western science has discovered this, too, so it must
be right. ;-) And if you view the brain as a sort of analog, parallel,
associative computer (GEEK!) then it kind of explains HOW smiling may
have this effect.  Good feelings make you smile.  Therefore, the state
of neuronal firing that goes with good feelings is related to the
state of neuronal firing that causes the facial muscles to smile.  And
associative computers allow the reverse, so that smiling even though
you're anxious can make the related "good feeling" neurons fire a
little, calming you and make you a little happier.  Ugh, my brain
hurts...

Anyway, this Thich Nhat Hanh guy is Vietnamese and advocated peace and
reconciliation between the north and south during the war (and I think
_I_ have a tough life).  He was practicing breathing and smiling and
helping the civilians while people were being killed right and left.
"You can't hate if you truly _understand_ those that you hate..."

Anyway, the point is that...  uh... oh yeh, the point is that
"smiling" was always there, and I've only recently learned to see it,
and to do it.  It's just as easy to walk around with a poker face.
But then people fear you.  And a poker face doesn't make you happy.  I
used to think people who talked about being "happy" were flakes.  Now
I'm one of those people! :-)

But guess what -- this smiling stuff works outside of parties, too.
If you're only smiling at other ravers, you're missing out.  Smile at
the dude in the convenient store.  Smile at yuppies.  Smile at jocks
(but try to avoid getting your face smashed in).  Be generous with
your smiles.

I know it sounds corny, but it's really amazing!  I guess I may be
preaching to the choir here.

Anyway, take care kids and remember to breathe and smile. ;)

- Patrick

P.S. Thich Nhat Hanh also says he likes the Western habit of hugging.
And that we should breathe in and out 3 times while hugging someone,
to enjoy it more.  (I can't wait to see everybody at the next party
hugging for what seems like WAY too long... :)

P.P.S. At the last House Party here in Lexington, there were these two
girls dancing and just smiling and breathing away...  :))) (Just
kidding, micronaut).

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I spoke to everyone's favorite person Mike Stacy about a month ago and he said 
he was moving to San Fran after Mac Street II...
He actually called me to see if I could help him get Scott Henry or Feelgood 
because On-E backed out and he needed a headliner.  He was stressin' 'cause he 
had to get the fliers printed to start promoting.  Anyway, I couldn't reach 
Scott or Charles(Feelgood )in time so he booked Hardkiss.  I saw him at 
Bubblicious but he didn't say if he was still moving and I didn't ask.  Just 
out of curiosoity, if Uniti goes on after he moves, will everyone feel the 
same way or give them another try???

Dustin, if you're reading this, Scott and Lieven still want to come out and I 
can get you a deal.  I could also get Feelgood for ya, but you have got to 
call me!!!  If the girls that threw Bubblicious are reading this, I thought 
your party was top notch and I'd help you get the above mentioned DJ's too!!  
I won't be at too many parties this summer due to work and travelling but I 
hope things get better for everyone!!!  I also read DC raves posts and I hate 
to see things on this so negative compared to that list.  The good thing is 
that you all care a great deal about the scene and that's important. Very 
important!!

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ok, here's my problem.
i remember that dj list thingy that was posted on mw-raves
a long time ago.  it was about 6 pages long (probably an 
over estimation), and it just had a huge list of dj names.
well, a friend of mine doesn't have links to the net.  he's 
a great jungle dj and has played out at a couple o' small
parties in st. louis.  i was telling him about this list
the other day, and he wants me to see if i can put his name
on it.  he just got booked for some party east of here...i 
can't remember the name...haven't seen it posted yet, tho...
and, anyway, he figures, the more connections, the better.
so if someone could tell me how to put his name on there,
i'd greatly appreciate it, as would he :)

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl

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um, someone mentioned this...i don't remember who.
but, anyway, i checked it out thru netscape...and i have
one question....how do you get on?

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl

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I was thinking about netravers throwing a party... and happened to be
scoping SE-Raves' page (http://www.hyperreal.com/raves/se/) and noticed
that they've thrown a party recently called NExTSCAPE or something like
that... they also have a list  of all the mixtapes available from
se-ravers, and a link to a record service operated by an se-raver. Cool
stuff! I vote we follow thier lead and start working together a bit
more. This is more Monday Philosphy, though, so feel free to comment and
rip it up as neccessary....

-jeff

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(computer scientist by major, sociologist by nature, raver by religion) 

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        Well with all the talk about the Minneapolis scene and the problems
going on there, i got to wondering, should this list be called Mnpls raves?
No offense i enjoy reading all posts but i thought it would be good for a
little variety.  Perhaps it's just that many of the most active members are
Mnpls people.  so here is a little overview of madison for you if any of you
ever swing down this way.  btw...i wouldn't be bothering you with this if i
wasn't so bored ;~).
       But first a couple disclaimers:  
                1.  All opinions expressed are strictly my own.
                2.  I will probly use the word "scene" in here several
times, but i think this is  a term people should be careful using.  The word
scene to me has some negative connotations, and it brings up an image of
people to caught up in themselves and their own culture, thus becoming
closeminded.  Some of the ravers i know always talking about "the scene"
are real elitist snobs.  This isn't what we should be about!!  One must stay
open to all different walks of life, albeit i don't think it's a bad idea to
stay closeminded to the kkk /skinhead nazi scene =).

                                        Madison WI, a good place to visit, a
better place to live =)

First off Madison WI was just picked the #1 city to live in in the whole US,
based on the economy, employment, culture, in other words the average
quality of living.  It is a very pretty city with two beautiful lakes, and
if there isn't a party or you aren't in the mood there are 1,001 other
things you can do.  As far as parties go I know most Madison people really
like our scene (surprise), so i will resort to outside opinions on this.
Some out of town people i've met think Madison parties are just the bomb,
with a great, happy vibe, and all around friendly feel.  Yet others call us
the "yuppie-ravers" and look at us condescendingly.  I guess when it comes
down to it, if fashion, elitism, and drugs are what you look for in a party
then Madison is probly not the place to do it.  But if good vibes, a nice
sense of community, and the independence of knowing you are among equals
appeals to you, i would say check us out.

Good promoters:
1.  Erotishock.  Chad Mindrive, Peterbuilt among others.  They threw UFO.
Need I say more?  Well, some say they turned a huge profit for UFO, but in
actuality the 3 promoters came away with $500 a piece after all the
expenses.  And i think they more than deserved it considering all the work
they put in to putting on such a high quality event.
2.  Tribal Brothers.    They threw Vortex in april, and i didn't go to this
party expecting much, but it turned out to be a super cool time!  They
aren't out to make $$, and without their warehouse the afterparties for the
busted Surge & Stop Drop n Roll, and dayrave afterparty wouldn't have
happened.  I do have to give them a little slap on the wrist tho, for their
last party Stop Drop n Roll, which could have really went off, a lot of out
of towners came for it.  IMO, it was pretty boneheaded to call a party that
and depict drugs blatantly on the flyer.  That's not what raving is about,
and its just asking for trouble with "the man".  But oh well, we all make
mistakes, and they're next party, a campout/circus, Rave-Um and Bail-E,
looks sooper good! =)
3.  CC Productions-  they threw Splurge and Surge, which was one of my best
parties even tho it was shut down.  but they lost a whole lot of $$ on Surge
so they won't be throwing anything for awhile, which makes me :( i've met
them too and they're nice raver people =)
4.  Flipside-  i personally have never been to one of their parties
unfortunately, but i heard Frost was realllllly good.  they're last party,
where the wild things are, was a financial disappointment, but its about
time for them to throw another i think.
5.  UPS-  they threw the first party i ever went to, last summer's Close
Encounters.  If it hadn't been good, i wouldn't have kept coming to events!
their next one, Communique Tour/Vanishing Point will be really good IMO,
sort of an anniversary for me and hey, ESP =)
6.  Om Productions- just started, they're first party is Brahman, which
looks cool.  I met them also and they just want for people to have a good
time.  for all of you not going to the megacampouts, check this out July 6.
7.  Star Children- they are throwing the little weekly events here and will
throw the larger scale respect.  i give them my seal of approval.
5.  There's also a local event July 5, Elevate.  if you are from madison i
urge you to support this, since it is giving up and coming dj's a chance to
play out.  and it's only $5.

Things to stay away from
1.  Phreshgruv Productions-  the dude who runs this doesn't have a clue.  He
started throwing parties because he ran a wedding dj company, and had all
this equipment, and probly wanted to try to bolster his budget by throwing
parties.  So far all they're events have been really lame.  DJ Nick Nice
really likes him and supports him, and in a way i think he's been
blacklisted, but for now i will still say stay away.
2.  Madison Parties thrown by non madison promoters-  this has been
increasing, since our parties have a rep for good vibes and not getting
busted, tho that last statement is starting to get a little sketchy.  Not
Fooling Around was a really really bad party, not all the promoters fault.
but i was at Vortex in the same overused space the night before, and 3 of
the 4 headliners were not there.  $15 for that bullshit, but i still managed
to have a good time.  I also heard Beat Street was not too cool.

Club- The Cardinal
is cool on wednesday night's (under 21 night)  when nick nice spins.  he
usually spins some deep/ghetto house. Mindrive spins the last wednesday of
every month.   they have acid jazz w/ Andi P before hand, but nobody ever
shows for this.  i really don't know why, people do need to be more open to
other music forms i guess.  He IS a good dj.

Stores to check out
1. 7th Dimension in Monona- this is Nick Nice's store, and as his name
implies, he is supercool and very friendly.  He always smiles and will
strike up a conversation with you.  If you wanna buy records, just tell him
what style you like and he will pick out a big stack of them for you to
listen to.  Being a dj, he's quite knowledgable.  Good record selection,
nice mixtapes, and a few cd's.
2.  The Razor Room- a record selection that i think is just as good as
7th's.  and they have more techno cd's than any other madison record store.
the only real drawback is you can't use the record player, you have to ask
the owner if he will play one for you.
3.  Plush Records on St. Street- not that cool, but if you get their right
when an order comes in you might be able to get some cool vinyl.  Also they
have a used 12" section w/ techno lumped in with other, mostly shitty, old
records.  But if you are willing to search you might be able to find a gem.
last week i found an out of print frankie bones record for $3!
4.  Fake Eye Snowboards-  the guys who work here are party people, and the
last time i was there i believed they sold records.  but i haven't been
there in a long time, and when i was i wasnt all that into techno yet, so
i'm not sure.  anyway worth a look.
5. and for "raver-stylin"  =D  clothes, unfortunately the best place to
check out is Urban outfitters on State, and the trusty local headshop,
Knuckleheads ("our bongs are for tobacco use only!")  its sad to see these
clothes being sold in a paraphernalia shop, but oh well...

well i hope i didnt bore you all too much if you decided to plow thru all
this!  oh and btw, i agree with Chris, if you don't like how parties are
being thrown in your city, throw your own!  DIY.  anybody wanna throw an all
net party called "Online"?   =)

                                                        Peace   Marc


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 24 17:08:42 1996
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This isn't really list-related, but has anybody who was subscribed gotten
anything from the 'GNOSIS' mailing list in a while? I don't know if I've
been msyteriously unsubbed or what. For those not in the know this is a
small list or ravers for sharing creative writing and poetry.

....gage...

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(computer scientist by major, sociologist by nature, raver by religion) 

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>in my experience the "minneapolis wall of sound" has consisted of (at 
>least at several parties i've been to, but not all) a row of bass bins on 
>the top and two stacks of empty bins on the bottom.  what a novel 
>concept, becauise you know i'm too dumb, and wouldn't know the diference.;P
>
>dylan

The bass bins are sent a signal that is only bass.     Bass waves are up to
about 60 feet long !     It therefore takes 30 feet out from the bass bin
for the wave to fully develop.      The maximum bass spot is usually out
there in the range from 25 to 75 feet.   Go wander around until you find
it, that's what I do.   The lower set of bass bins are on, you just don't
notice it being that close.   The ones on the top are the high packs.   It
is good that they are up there so they don't rip your fucking head off.

  Over and Out.

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                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

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On Wednesday, July 10th 1996, The Jungle Vibe Collective takes you on 


S       A       F       A       R       I 

with your tour guides :

                                                PHANTOM 45

        dj Capsule and Dj Para (on 4, count them, f-o-u-r turntables)

        Mc Duckshoot            MC Bumpy Screw

                       dj Polter and Mad Kid

                                MC Mingo

                                 dj Chris Sattinger

                                         dj Slip

                                           dj Mr. E-Tones



612-257-7058     m i n n e a p o l i s



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ok, Laurent is coming to Mpls. and the rest of the line up is pretty
fucking huge too.   I'll post it when we confirm everything.   Its one stop
on the Communique tour plus a bunch of other headliners.      huge I tell
you.
Aug 31

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Mon Jun 24 18:27:40 1996
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Sounds great but gimmie more details !!!!

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ok, Laurent is coming to Mpls. and the rest of the line up is pretty
fucking huge too.   I'll post it when we confirm everything.   Its one stop
on the Communique tour plus a bunch of other headliners.      huge I tell
you.
Aug 31

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                                    Reprogramming Our Reality Through Disco

Communique, Synewave, Probe, Sounds, Head In the Clouds

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Hi Marc.  Liked the post.  Anyway, I know a guy from Pittsburgh that moved 
there a few years back.  His name is John and he had long dark dreadlocks.  He 
was really really cool and he used to be buddies with Deadly Budda back in 
Pitt.  Do you know him, or does anyone, or how I can reach him???

 

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i have lost most of my mail in a server crash this morning.
i managed to salvage some of the mail file, but most of what i got was
the headers, including the subjects.  I have restored all of it except
the last 24 or so hours from a tape backup, but in restoring the mail
file, i noticed some stuff in regards to the page i'm building, but i
couldn't get any readable text out of it.

	if you have mailed me between sunday night and monday morning,
please re-send it if possible...  

silly server, email's for users!!!

playing around with hyperreal, i did notice that GRID is basically doing
what i intend to already (how did i miss this before i started?!)  so i
may limit the site to the midwest to avoid stepping on too many toes.  

it would be wonderful if you could help with the scans, star!!  i might
be able to set up an ftp for you to stick them in, but we'll see how that
goes as i finish up the rest of this.


		/> a n i e l  /-/ u l l
		raygun@purdue.edu

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I'm feeling lazy and I get the digest so I'll just edit-and-reply...


On Mon, 24 Jun 1996 owner-mw-raves-digest@hyperreal.com wrote:

> Are you saying that Champange-Urbana is not a large population center for
> youth?  Its a large college town.  What you need is:
> A space. 
> A proper sound system with proper turntables and mixing board.
> Maybe some chill lighting (lasers arent necessary or realistic)
> Patience.
> Talent on the decks. (dont need a big name though.)
> Tunes to play.
> 
> Then the audience will come.  Its not an overnight sensation.  No one
> should just blindly belive in this.  Jeff, you seem smart enough.  But one
> last then you need is:
> 
> TIME
> 
> 
> Luscious Daniel Smack
> robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
> http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi

I don't know if my reply to this got posted publicly, but hell yeah
there's a large amount of young people, and I'm trying my damndest, with
all due haste, to turn then all on to techno. Lotsa musical-elitists of
different genres around here I've got to work on, though. The only problem
I forsee is how to get people to come to events... non-techno fans won't
come unless there's Beer, and I don't know about alla you guys, but if I
throw a party in my living room the last thing I want is some half-drunk
fool spilling beer on the floor and being annoying. I suppose one could
have a no-beer-on-the-dancefloor rule, but not only would it probably get
ignored, but I don't like making rules or trying to lure people to an
event with beer.


> ------------------------------
> 
> From: cmatts@artic.edu (simple)
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:04:47 -0500
> Subject: Re: bad pr0moters and all that jazz
> 
> werd jeff. too bad i dont have the connectionsor the resources to do that.
> 
> simple
> 312.
> 

Ahem. 312 people? Let's get something going here! :) It doesn't take any
special talent or connections to help get the word out for an event, or
scope the local laws on noise and permits and all that, or to put on clean
clothes and go talk to space owners about renting for 24 hours... or even
just to help haul bassbins around and run wires.

> It seems that when I get interested in something, the something
> approaches me from several directions almost simultaneously.  One
> direction was from reading this rave info.  Another was through a book
> I've been reading recently called _Peace is Every Step_ by Thich Nhat
> Hanh.  This guy is cool!  In the book, he extols the merits of
> practicing "breathing and smiling".  Apparently, when you smile (even
> if you're unhappy), it sets off a series of calming mental and
> physical states.  Western science has discovered this, too, so it must
> be right. ;-) And if you view the brain as a sort of analog, parallel,
> associative computer (GEEK!) then it kind of explains HOW smiling may
> have this effect.  Good feelings make you smile.  Therefore, the state
> of neuronal firing that goes with good feelings is related to the
> state of neuronal firing that causes the facial muscles to smile.  And
> associative computers allow the reverse, so that smiling even though
> you're anxious can make the related "good feeling" neurons fire a
> little, calming you and make you a little happier.  Ugh, my brain
> hurts...

This is really cool. I like smiling at people because it freaks them out
of thier little shell when they're walking on the street, and has nice
effects. I can't tell you how many times, at a rave or on the street,
people give me weird, defensive looks, and I just say hi! and grin and get
the nicest hellos back. People just don't expect you to be nice to them.
Wouldn't it be nice if more people knew that most of the kids in big pants
are into dancing, not mugging? Sigh... keep on smiling at people...

> P.P.S. At the last House Party here in Lexington, there were these two
> girls dancing and just smiling and breathing away...  :))) (Just
> kidding, micronaut).

When I'm too tired to dance I stand on the side with my eyes lightly
closed and smile and listen to the music... before long a rhythem that
moves my soul comes on and suddenly I'm dancing again!

(true, it's monday evening and I'm still sore from saturday night...)


> From: AJIA TOWN <atown@siue.edu>
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:54:47 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: freshmilk
> 
> um, someone mentioned this...i don't remember who.
> but, anyway, i checked it out thru netscape...and i have
> one question....how do you get on?

I've never tried it, but this is what I found out on the web:

http://www.freshmilk.com/rave-on/	tells ya all about it
telnet://freshmilk.com:2000/		gets ya in

so instead of typing "telnet hyperreal.com 7283" you'd type 
"telnet freshmilk.com 2000"

> On Wednesday, July 10th 1996, The Jungle Vibe Collective takes you on 
> 
> S       A       F       A       R       I 
> 
> with your tour guides :
> 
>                                                 PHANTOM 45

Hey I heard a rumor... isn't P45 the brother of a rather famous Chicago
DJ? (name witheld until rumor substantiated)


see ya all later...gage...

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeff Gage                                   http://www.hyperreal.com/~gage
mailto:j-gage@uiuc.edu                           voicephone://217-328-9685
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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Professor Earache wrote:

> Anyways, I had a rad time at Chris and Shawn's shindig last night!  That
> Basement Boys track is killer!

Which Basement Boy's track?
-- 
 
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	Hello all. Long time, no talk (from me at least)..

	First, I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet or not, but there
	was a nice little picture from Even Furthur in this months Rolling
	Stone. I think I saw something on this already, but oh well. It had 
	really bad picture discription though. Something about how this is 
	what kids are really doing when they say they're at <insert name>'s
	house. What's really funny, is that it's a picture of our campsite.
	I'm sitting right in the back with the white hat on, and everyone I
	came with was sitting around, or bouncing on the tram. Wierd 'ey?
	Proof I was at Even Furthur. Funny part of all of this? Parents 
	knew I was going to be there. Of course, my boss thought I was seeing
	relatives up north. :> 

	Second, does anyone know the funshinegirls voicemail number? I would 
	appreciate it. :> 

	Talk to you all soon..

				
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So Orbital is playing with Spacetime Continuum on July 3 in Chicago for
$15 (Ticketm*ster event)... anybody want to go with me? I can't see going
to an event (this sounds more "concert" than "rave") alone... we could
meet in Chicago and have dinner first or what the hell ever... if you're
interested email me pronto...

....gage.. ..

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(computer scientist by major, sociologist by nature, raver by religion) 

http://www.hyperreal.com/~gage       for://war.dtheyou.th/rev/olut.ion!


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i would be totally up for this type of shindig and would help in whatever way
i could...
so lets get the idea ROLLING!!
...heh heh...

love and hugz:
:plur:
:ben

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hey all...

does anyone know what happened to frequency productions (a promoting crew)
out of Bowling Green, KY?  I'm stuck in this god forsaken town and thought
that maybe i could get ahold of these guys (even tho they are no more) and
talk shop.
They were throwing parties about a year and a half ago and i haven't heard
anything since.  their voice mail is not theirs anymore, so...

if anyone has any 411, it would be greatly appreciated.

btw...i have a flyer from Velocity on Nov. 11, 1994.  did anyone go and how
was it?  just curious... thanks all.

:love and hugz:
:plur:
:ben:

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You guessed it...  more overly philisophical rambling about stuff we never
knew could actually be thought about... :)  hahahahahahahaha.... So, there
I was.... driving in the country listening to some tape I just made and
trying to distance myself from the act of making so I can hear it from an
outsider's perspective... and I start down this wild thought path that I
thought made a lot of sense out of a whole bunch of stuff that's been
swirling through my mind... I'll do my best to pin it down...

So, I was talking about dance "moves" and now I'll tell you what irks me
about them... A dance move is like a portion of something else, something
greater than itself.  When you start to focus on the "move" you start this
weird process of vivisection that will eventually kill the thing itself.  I
mean if that ritual action becomes an act for it's own sake then it loses
whatever significance it had originally.  Now I hate to be a purist, so,
I'll qualify that statment:  If a thing becomes detached from it's context
it dies.  Now that doesn't mean it cannot be ascribed a new context... It
need not cling to it's original habitat by any means... But it needs a
habitat.

When ever I see one of those terrible desriptions of a rave that goes: an
all night dance party with continually mixed electronic music, the words
that stick in my head are continually mixed.  I have never been to  a party
where music was just kinda clipped together somehow and no care taken to
the way in which it connected (I mean with that as the intention... it
happens sometimes)  Since I see those words used a lot as a way of
describing it I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that it's a defining
characteristic of the phenomenon.  The intention then, is to create this
seemless fabric of actions.  It's a construct.

So here comes the wacky shit... In my original thought I was thinking about
those little machines you get at toy stores, the ones that wind up and do
one thing over and over again... like walk or flap or hop.  I was thinking
that if you imagined a party with people just doing "moves" you would have
what looked like a big box of these little machines walking, flapping,
hopping around.  Then I was thinking that a good dancer is like if you took
a whole bunch of those little machines and some how managed to
tape/glue/melt a bunch of them together and get this whole new machine made
out of little ones.  A machine that had the same pieces if you really
examined it but somehow was put together so it's sum of actions was
decidedly different (synergistically).

For the past year, I've been working on my architectural thesis and the
largest problem to overcome when your dealing with dynamic structures is
that there is really no way to draw them so others can imagine them as
well... since any one drawing shows just one "move" of a structure.  If
your structure "dances" then there are hundreds of possible "moves".  So I
started drawing these neat little diagrams that showed a "move" as a
geometric icon of sorts.  Coming up with these little things was a real
task since if one thing moves then everything else does too and all your
previous efforts are wasted.  Pretty soon I started seeing everything like
this (as a set of movement diagrams instead of the actual thing).  Trees
became a simple fractal image with the idea of acquiring sunlight being the
evolutionary engine behind it, dancers became these strange gyroscope
looking formations, music became colors and shapes moving along wild
pathways...  (so, now your thinking, "OK... kell's been tripping for whole
year and I want some of what he took...")  hahaha...

Well, not to dissappoint, there is more... When you free your mind of
"things" and concentrate on the pure idea of what it is you're seeing,
hearing or doing it gives you a less crowded way of thinking about it.
It's its own kind of ecstasy... Samhadic Ecstasy... The moment when the
world of things dissappears and there is only colors and shapes (Jack
Kerouac).  More than almost anything else in this world, a "rave" comes
closest to being a real incarnation of that thinking.  We are in a time
when the most basic assumptions about the world and the universe and
reality are called into question daily.  In just a little over one hundred
years, our concepts of time and space at very experienceable levels have
been changed dramatically.  It's not so hard to lose a whole day or gain
one travelling by plane.  Just a hundred years ago a letter took weeks to
go from one place to another now it takes a few days or seconds... And the
science that brought us here... while teetering on the verge of answering
all of our questions has run into a brick wall... It has reached the
intellectual end.  There are some things that cannot be answered the way we
want them to be answered.  And now, they no longer care how big a photon of
light is, but instead, they try to discover it's direction of spin... so
it's not a wave or a partical... it's a movement.

A dance... at the sub-atomic or cosmic level or at the personal level.  And
the dance has a context which is music.  So when you see those certain
special people disolve and become the music you know they've stopped
hearing and seeing what you hear and see and are on a much more intimate
level with the music.  They are making the movements of the music.  If
you're not dancing with the music then you're thinking about things the
wrong way.  You're concentrating too much on the things and not enough on
the whole.

Architects have this funny little war going on with engineers... it goes
like this: the engineer is always concerned with, "can you?" and the
architect is always concerned with, "should you?" (not all architects and
all engineers fall into these catagories).  Lot's of building are done
based on this thing called the free plan (basically if there are columns in
it, it's free plan)  and it's one of the first things they teach you in
school.  My second year we did a project where we were given four columns
in a square 20ft apart and it looked like this:

                    ::

So we were supposed to make this fucking house out of that... The problem
is that when your given the problem you look at the damn columns too
much... everything is all related to the columns... Well, it wasn't very
free.  Not until I figured out why LeCorbusier (the french architect who
invented) called it that.  He said that by using the columns like that, you
freed the walls and floors from having to do the job of holding the damn
thing together.  In other words, they could pretty much do whatever they
wanted and then you put the columns in later to hold it all up...

It's a 4/4 beat architecturally... I mean you can design a building to it,
but it's never very inspired or interesting.  Now don't jump right away and
assume I'm trashing the 4/4.  I learned something about free plan and it
helped defend "techno" against people who liked to make fun of it back in
91 in central Kentucky.  It's an organizing principle, not a design tool.
And just like in architecture if you spend all that time paying attention
to the columns instead of the space of the building you won't have
something interesting to be in when it's done, that's why architecture and
engineering are separate disciplines.

The point is that when you "dance" you can time all these moves to the
beats and it still doesn't mean you're listening to the music.  Some things
in the music don't necesarily belong to the world of beats... You can feel
the bass line take a turn toward a deeper state and for some reason you
want to bend your knees more and you're thinking, "holy shit that's fucking
deep!"  ...and the guy next to you is somewhere way up above, oblivious to
it all... :)  (he's on beat but, is he hearing the music?)

what was it in Dune? ...every sound has a motion?  if you pair the sound
with the motion well... then you've really got something amazing.  It
doesn't take drugs to get there, you just have to let yourself hear the
music for what it is, stop thinking about the world of things and let your
mind begin picking up on that subtle dance already going on all around you.
I've even gone so far as to start picking my records based on some weird
inner rhythm I associate with that sound... if I can't pitch it up or down
to the speed I want to play it at, I can't buy it... (I get some funny
looks in stores beat matching to this ghost rhythm, hahahahahahaha)

Well, if you're still reading at this point... cool.  Maybe I'm actually
making sense?  At the atomic and sub-atomic levels conventional reality
breaks down... or does it?  I think that the main problem is that people
insist on thinking about reality as a collection of things, when in fact it
is a smooth fabric of motions.  In general I see the "rave" as the purest
embodiment of this notion...  Why should we ignore the genius behind the
dance...????


            Keep foil wrapper to put gum in after use.  -- Kell


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hi there :)

just thought you all should know that, if anyone has any energy after FA2 or
whatever coinciding party is going on, Lenny Dee will be spinning at The Church
at Trilogy (a club i do NOT frequent unless there's a guest dj) on
Sunday, July 7th herein the Flats in Cleveland...

thanks to Ian Mariano and vrave's cappie for letting me know, glad i met you
both :)

see you all there!

--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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well, if you find a space and a sound system i'll donate use of my tables 
and mixer and whatever talent i can find to making this event.

and if the sErAves list did it with netscapE we here in the MW can 
definitely do it, family style.

i suggest picking a weekend around the first of september when ppl are 
getting back from school and settled (when does school start, anyways?) 
and far enough away for us to do it right, with or without a big bdget.

--star*
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On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, star wrote:

> well, if you find a space and a sound system i'll donate use of my tables 
> and mixer and whatever talent i can find to making this event.

I would like to take the time to point out that Star is a Real Cool Guy.

:)

> and if the sErAves list did it with netscapE we here in the MW can 
> definitely do it, family style.

Hell yeah! So now we need a space, a PA, and some advertising. Whatever
extras we can think of or get our hands on like lighting would be cool...

Oh yeah and some netraver DJs. Especially female ones, I say! Even though
we're better than the korportate world, even our little scene is
male-dominated for whatever reason.

So who else out there wants to help? Anybody with creative ideas, or
resources on hand like a PA, speak up!

And where should we hold this thing? Star kind of insinuated it would be
in my area, or maybe that's wishful interpretation on my part.
Champaign-Urbana seems like a nice spot to me since it's equidistant from
Chicago, Saint Louis, and Indianapolis, but it's certainly up to the
common consensus.

Ah, how I love getting off my ass and doing stuff...

...gage...

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Subject: new orleans  connection needed.
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i'm a graphic designer/dj in LA, from socal-raves.


i was wondering if any of you on mw-raves may be familiar with the new
orleans club scene.  (the mw-raves web page lists the city as being in your
region.)


a promoter friend of mine needs to get in touch with talent in the local
club scene in new orleans.  a cool special effects shop is throwing a big
party during siggraph.

if any of you have any connections there, please email me privately.


thanks for the bandwidth.



tom allain





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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 25 04:12:25 1996
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        I talked to Derrick last night who is the financer of CC
productions, so I thought i would post a little    
                                                         PRE FLYER
for their event.


                                                MADISON, WI      8.23.96

        In the tradition of Splurge and Surge, CC PRODUCTIONS invites you,
on August 23 in Madison, to NRG (nurge).
                                        Currently in negotiations to book
        
                                               LIVE ACT SPIRAL TRIBE    


                                                        more info t.b.a. 


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free house partee...   

		open tables...
			w/ speical guest
 				will web

			starts at 9 goes 'til ???

201  collingwood

for more information call 351-3150 ask for five L or email
bossen-c@cc.denison.edu



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ok, right...I'm taking offense to this.  If I wrote this about women,
all of you on the list would get pissed off!!!  Remember the Massive
magazine cover?!  There was hardly anything there to get all worked up
over, but NOooOOOooOOOooo...everyone went bezerk about it.

So there is a huge double standard going on here, and I think it sucks.

---ben / Cylert

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At 12:16 PM 6/25/96 CDT, page@simon.wustl.edu wrote:
>ok, right...I'm taking offense to this.  If I wrote this about women,
>all of you on the list would get pissed off!!!  Remember the Massive
>magazine cover?!  There was hardly anything there to get all worked up
>over, but NOooOOOooOOOooo...everyone went bezerk about it.
>
>So there is a huge double standard going on here, and I think it sucks.

I might have missed something or else I haven't gotten it yet ...

Or I might have hit delete because most things marked "Laugh of the Day"
typically don't do it for the funky funny bone.

earache

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At 10:34 PM 6/23/96 -0500, Lucia H. Jeong wrote:
>hahahaha...doesnt this ring a bell girls? ;)
>And don't try and deny it boys...cuz we all know this is true. ;P
>>
>>Top 10 reasons computers must be male: 
>>========================================
>>
>>10. They have a lot of data but are still clueless. 
>>9.  A better model is always just around the corner.
>>8.  They look nice and shiny until you bring them home. 
>>7.  It is always necessary to have a backup.
>>6.  They'll do whatever you say if you push the right buttons.
>>5.  The best part of having either one is the games you can play. 
>>4.  In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on.
>>3.  The lights are on but nobody's home.
>>2.  Big power surges knock them out for the night. 
>>1.  Size does matter

Ahh!  Well same to be said about girls, cept they're a bit harder to
program, but once you get a few routines kickin' there ya go.

earache

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>        there
>        was a nice little picture from Even Furthur in this months Rolling
>        Stone.


okay, the one with metallica on the cover got left on top of my mailbox, i
spent about 15 minutes searching and could not find it...so is it in a
different one??  newer?  older?

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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okay, nancy's server is acting bonkers and won't let her post...so she
asked me to say, any of you cats that have any jon williams tapes please
email her at nadupont@students.wisc.edu...she'll be able to hook you back
up with other tapes of his if she's got different ones.  thanks. :)

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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:)

I had some problems getting tekknoBOX to be synced, but I licked that
problem this morning at 6:30.

So right now I'm finishing the help file.  The shtuff will be up tonight
around 6 or 7pm.

A note on sync and tempo.  tekknoBOX when syncing another device will alter
the tempo of your song up to the next value which is cleanly divisible by
(ppq / prescale).  So if you have a tempo of 122 and turned on sync, your
tempo would be switched to 124, because you can cleanly divide 122.  The
reason I do this is because my playback mechanism is only accurate to the
ms.  Dividing down I would have to be accurate to the nanosecond.  Ain't
going to happen with windoze.

However, with sync OFF, you can have any tempo that floats your boat.  And
if the box is being synced, it can do whatever tempo the master unit is
demanding all subservient devices be.  I was going to take the 626 back, but
it's kind of cool to stop/start and adjust tempo from it.

Anyways, back to work.

earache

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if anyone has information on a spot for an all-night dance party in the
grand rapids, michigan area, please let me know.  (grand rapids is
strongly preffered for this one, but if there is a good site in holland,
k-zoo, or lansing, that'll work too).. i've got the equiptment and the
backing, all i need is the site... much thanks, art

email:  aschryburt@npainc.com

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i am in the process of moving and i no longer have a home phone number.  if
for any reason you need to reach me i can be contacted via my new pager at
[414-237-3010].  at the tone enter your numeric message and press the # key
(as usual).  i will return your call as soon as possible via payphone /
calling card.  if a message needs to be left our event voice mail is still
active at [414-967-3259] and you can also send e.mail to this address as well.

thank you.

__________________________________________________________________

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Oops wrong list.

earache

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To: Jeff Gage <j-gerard@uiuc.edu>, Midwest Raves <mw-raves@hyperreal.com>
From: DynamicGroove <dgroove@csd.uwm.edu>
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At 02:18 AM 6/25/96 -0500, Jeff Gage wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, star wrote:
>
>> well, if you find a space and a sound system i'll donate use of my tables 
>> and mixer and whatever talent i can find to making this event.
>
>I would like to take the time to point out that Star is a Real Cool Guy.
>
>:)
>
>> and if the sErAves list did it with netscapE we here in the MW can 
>> definitely do it, family style.
>
>Hell yeah! So now we need a space, a PA, and some advertising. Whatever
>extras we can think of or get our hands on like lighting would be cool...
>


as far as lighting goes i know a place her in Milwaukee where i can rent
pretty much any of the American Dj stuff.  now before you say "american dj
stuff sux !" take into consideration the following fact - this place rents
it very cheaply - usually about $15 a fixture.  now there are a few effects
they make that are pretty decent, especially for a smaller party on a tight
budget.  theres the gobotech, the aggressor, avenger, lynx, sparkle, orbit,
spyrotech, and yes - even lasers ! you could put together a nice little
light show for well under $100. most of these fixtures mimic intelligent
lights and when you consider the price difference (dumb lights: <$100 -
intelligent: $300-5,000) its a serious option.  i would always choose
intelligent if you can afford it though.  the only problem with renting
these lights is that a large deposit is required - equal to the cost of the
equipment. so, if you really want to throw a little party you'll still have
to have some money for the deposit (a credit card works best).  if anyone is
interested let me know. also, i can contact pretty much any of the
rave-friendly intelligent lighting companies too and there are some pretty
good deals out there depending on what you need.



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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 25 21:39:39 1996
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i'm not sure, but i'm gonna throw in .02 cents for belinda (blendr) anyway.
she is out of the country right now and someone should try to talk to her
about djing at the net party.  i think she'd be very open to it.

that's all:
:love 'n hugz:
:ben

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so there has beena few ppl talking aobut tring to get a party together.
hell yeah! i cant afford to loose to much $$ but ill help all i can other
wise.

simple



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 25 22:03:40 1996
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if i am able to, i would gladly spin...in fact if it were in columbus i
could get a small system, space, and tables for nothing or next-to-
nothing. 

but if it's going to be in champaign i'd strongly recommend asking dac 
crowell to take part...maybe set up a small ambient basement area or 
something?  i know dac's an ass :) but he's just got to be asked by 
people who care about what he does...

if you want i'll ask him, he's always talked about spinning ambient and 
old classical/avant-garde stuff out at parties...

anyway, someone please pick a date and let's get this rolling (er, sorry)!
++
e d

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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, eluna wrote:
> 
> if you want i'll ask him, he's always talked about spinning ambient and 
> old classical/avant-garde stuff out at parties...

i would love to hear avant-garde at a party, not for dancing to, but it 
would be great for the people who already know the artists and songs, and 
great to introduce people who aren't familliar to the works of some of 
the influences of this music we call "techno"...hell it'd be fun to try 
at least.:) 

dylan
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 25 22:42:34 1996
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I haven't received anything in a while, either.  I know that earlier this
year I was accidentally unsubbed after my school's mail server was down
for a while.  Evidently Gnosis has this little trick built in to it...when
it tries to send you a message that can't get through, (even if the
blockage is only temporary) you are automatically unsubbed for having a
nonexistent address.  I was resubbed with the explanation for my short
dismissal, with the information that they were going to un-program that
little quirk.  Whether or not that was ever accomplished, however, I do
not know.  Maybe everyone is just having massive writer's block. *shrugs*
 
Always,
erinaceous

> 
> This isn't really list-related, but has anybody who was subscribed gotten
> anything from the 'GNOSIS' mailing list in a while? I don't know if I've
> been msyteriously unsubbed or what. For those not in the know this is a
> small list or ravers for sharing creative writing and poetry.
> 
> ....gage...
> 
> -------
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> 
> (computer scientist by major, sociologist by nature, raver by religion) 
> 
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 25 22:48:01 1996
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From: Professor Earache <earache@inneraktive.com>
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Sorry for the gross cross-posting of this advert, but it might be
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Tue Jun 25 22:50:05 1996
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I just moved from STl up here to Chicago and I definitely see a huge 
difference between these two scenes.  I never really noticed stl's  
strange attitudes until I whent to a few chicago parties, where people 
came up to me and gave me hugs and lots of smiles, I felt great vibes 
everytime:)  thanks to all you chicago masses...

Then I went to Furthur...and was blown away by the 'everything' that 
was Further, sorry if you missed this one but it was a life changing 
experience and I cant explain the love and unity at that party without 
multiple postings:)  

I jsut cant put my finger on what makes the difference between the 
chicago/Furthur feeling and the strangeness in STL? ...I know STL has 
had problems int he past but people are trying to regroup and get back 
on track.   I know the promoters try very hard to ensure a good party 
but stl always seem to let the vibe slip through its fingers.

Is it possibe for mw ravers come together and practice what they 
preach, and help out the scene...I would like to see people from 
Chicago/Furthur show stl people how to really party with a VIBE and 
drop the attitude....

Stl seems to be in need of help and thats why I am going to V the 
revalation tour...I want to bring my experiences to STL and show them 
how to do everything right...I hope others will do the same:)

Comments please!

PLUR,
Jason

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well since several people have asked me how it went i'll say a few words 
about the event.

first of all, although it was maddeningly frustrating, i _will_ do it
again.  that's to satisfy those of you who wrote me with encouragement
(sorry i havent had time to reply to you all individually...but a lot of
you supported my idea of an deeper kind of event). 

i won't dwell on the negatives...which basically boiled down to me 
running around, hot weather, and the loss of some money...

but i will briefly mention the positives.  dreamcycle had a beautiful set,
extremely well put together...very ambient but definitely NOT boring. 
full brain/mike brown laid down some wicked songs as always...that helped
too. 

but the real show-stealers were todd sines and charles noel as a.r.s...man
this shit is GOOD.  atmospheric, experimental, AND DANCEABLE?!?!  dont
ask, just SEE them next time i can drag them out to play live again...

let's see...brian gillespie played some great songs including eddy 
grant's "electric avenue" and even sillier stuff...

timbient was the real relaxer for me.  i hope people get more of a chance
to hear him someday, his selection is amazing.  droning, warm but scary (i
know it sounds hard to believe)...just what i needed. 

thanks to everyone who helped, thanks to count zero for driving so far and
saying the kind words in his review (and for spinning some of the most
eclectic sets i've ever heard...i thought _i_ was bad), and of course
thanks to everyone who was there in spirit. 

wishing he had checkerboard sleeves,
++
e d

coil.com/~eluna/ele_mental.html

soon to be ele-mental.coil.com/

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well what about a mac version? i sont want to start any os wars but i am a
mac guya nd will ocntinue to be.

simple


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At 10:49 PM 6/25/96 -0700, Jason A. Giles wrote:
>
>I just moved from STl up here to Chicago and I definitely see a huge 
>difference between these two scenes.  I never really noticed stl's  
>strange attitudes until I whent to a few chicago parties, where people 
>came up to me and gave me hugs and lots of smiles, I felt great vibes 
>everytime:)  thanks to all you chicago masses...

wow st. louis must really suck then because when i go to chicago i never get
great vibes. in fact i tell people here they should go to chicago at least
once just to appreciate things here more. what are some of the chicago
parties that you've felt this great vibe at?

>I jsut cant put my finger on what makes the difference between the 
>chicago/Furthur feeling and the strangeness in STL? 

furthur was by no means a chicago party. this party was made up of people
from all over the midwest, and some beyond. it wasn't people from chicago
that made this party what it was.

>Chicago/Furthur show stl people how to really party with a VIBE and 
>drop the attitude....

i think you need to travel a bit. :)

-kc


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just thought i'd mention that i'm very willing to contribute to pulling this
thing off. i'd be willing to spin whatever, which could be goa trance,
jungle, funky house stuff, ambient, or other stuff. depending on how big the
party would be and how much we wanted to save, we could maybe just have
several people bring home stereos and hook them all up to provide the sound,
in which case i can contribute a couple systems. i can get some equipment
which would allow us to display computer graphics off a pc onto either a tv
or through an overhead projector. oh and the other day i came across a whole
shitload of that egg-crate (whatever it's called) styrofoam padding... maybe
we could cover the floor, play ambient, and have a giant sleeping bag war? :)

-kc


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I can do a juggling act at this party!  Well...okay :P
Cynthia
http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~glowstik


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if this were somewhere near milwaukee i could donate the use of The
FreeBass Sound system most likely as long as we aren't booked anywhere else
that night

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	Alright, the Rolling Stones issue that it's in is 738/739 from July
11-25, 96. It's on sale right now at your local news stand. :> The actual
picture is on page 16 in the Random Notes section, right on the bottom of 
the page in black and white. I'm smack dab in the middle, sitting on my girl-
friends lap, behind the tram (which is hers), while our friends Henry and 
Jason are bouncin' around. Then, our friend Justin is slowing getting onto 
the tram, and one of my girlfriend's roomies is sitting on the otherside
next to two people I've never seen before in my life. Crazy, 'ey? 

	Just wanted to let you all know.


				
				Peace out..
				  Ramylson. 
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   how professional it looks, it's because you are doing what you are because
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werd! if i have anything to do with it i definatly whant some jungle. and
the egg crate foam stuff sounds really fuckng cool. that is the type of
thing that shows that you dont have to spend alot of $$$ to create a good
party.

im have a stereo that could be use. its kinda loud.(60watts) but my
speakleers are kinda shot, and would prob blow if used for a party. maybe
there could be some way to rig the tables to output each channel though
diffrent steroes to make it loud enough.

soes anyone know if steros are more prone to overheat after long hours of
use at high levels. wondering b/c ive seen a stero blow its fuse b/c it
was, or while it was being used for a small sound system.

i think finding a space (that would not cost too much) would be the hardest
part, usless someone knows some one that has a loft or something they would
be willing to use or rent for cheap. also where do we want to have the
party? i would say chicago, but im biased b/c i live here and dont have a
car--therfore would not prob. be able to goto or help out at a party
elsewere without a ride.


where does al the interested parties live. i know jeff gage lives in
Champaign-Urbana. that might be a good place too. might be less likely to
get busted, and cheaper to get a space. i havnt been there but  imagin that
it is a college town and kinda in the country.

i like the projection idea. mabe we could geta couple of ppl to bring ther
computer and vcr. to show screem savers or videos. i aloways think that
video projectios add alot, even if they arent super safisticated. i might
be able to get a projector(that would be along shot thought. b/c its a
really nice one. maybe we could offer to rent it.)

simple

 >just thought i'd mention that i'm very willing to contribute to pulling this
>thing off. i'd be willing to spin whatever, which could be goa trance,
>jungle, funky house stuff, ambient, or other stuff. depending on how big the
>party would be and how much we wanted to save, we could maybe just have
>several people bring home stereos and hook them all up to provide the sound,
>in which case i can contribute a couple systems. i can get some equipment
>which would allow us to display computer graphics off a pc onto either a tv
>or through an overhead projector. oh and the other day i came across a whole
>shitload of that egg-crate (whatever it's called) styrofoam padding... maybe
>we could cover the floor, play ambient, and have a giant sleeping bag war? :)
>
>-kc



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well it sound like all we really need is a space now. im sure finding dj's
would be easy. im not sure what other ppl are thinking abou this, but if we
make it a benifit we might be able to get non-net raver dj to spin if we
wanted them of needed them. i might be able totalk to some djs here (in
chicago) about it.

soemthing else we should definatly have a net hook up. (esp. since its a
net party.) maybe we could have a computer hooked up to vrave and someone
doing a netcast (i think that i know a few possiblities of pple to do that
that have web space and a quicktake camera.)

maybe im wishing for too much, but i guess it wouldnt hurt to try.

simple



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Yeah, have the party in Champaign-Urbana... it is less likely to get busted
and you can get space for free probably, plus I live here, so it would
be really convenient :)
	-Sarah

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	hey, it seems like what we needs is a

					 date.



	anyone?  before or after IO3? (because 
	that is to me as the chineese new year
	is to the chineese)




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On 26 Jun 96 at 6:27, Cynthia ** wrote:

> I can do a juggling act at this party!  Well...okay :P
> Cynthia
> http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~glowstik
> 
> 


oh WOW now THIS is the kind of stuff that makes a party a RAVE.


oh wow oh wow.  cynthia, will you PLeeeeeeze!

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we should deinfately have it in urbana -champiagn  (my new home as of
august 14)   :)     


On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Sarah Risken wrote:

> Yeah, have the party in Champaign-Urbana... it is less likely to get busted
> and you can get space for free probably, plus I live here, so it would
> be really convenient :)
> 	-Sarah
> 


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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 kctopitz@students.wisc.edu wrote:
> oh and the other day i came across a whole
> shitload of that egg-crate (whatever it's called) styrofoam padding... maybe
> we could cover the floor, play ambient, and have a giant sleeping bag war? :)

	For anyone who's interested, i'm currently working on getting a 
date set at this *perfect* venue in Chicago for a pure ambient party.  
Nice lighting and sound, plenty of couches.  It's funny, but Chicago 
hasn't really had any swell ambient parties yet.  We're the only part of 
the U.S. that that haven't really hit yet, it seems... So just to get an 
idea, how many people around these parts would actually go to something 
like this?  Maybe it should be an afterparty for some first first time, i 
haven't really decided... Comments?

			n  o    a        h
			.. .  .   .    .      .         .



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What's this about teaching kids from st louis how to have a good time?!
Just bring some crystal meth, special K, and poppers to a party!  What
more do you need?!  Oh yeah, don't forget to dress in your best Q
jeans, overpriced h
tommy shirt, etc...And FEEL THE VIBE when people stare
at you, and be sure that you don't get caught dead dancing, or else
it might actually turn into a party.  And hopefully the dj will play
that excellent bassbin twins loose caboose record at least 3 times
before the night is over!  And if you are really
lucky, you'll get to have a couple of high school dropouts come
home with you and move in onto your couch.  Maybe some of them will
even steal some of your shit, and try and dial long distance on your
phone!!!    Now what was that about kids from st louis having attitude
and not knowing how to party?!

Ok, end sarcasm...ZThere have been incredible parties out there  The
Ther4e was actually a real vibe.  Shit hasn't really been the same since Lance H(god damnit this terminal I'm on wont delete)...Shit hasn't been the same
since Lance Hendrickson left.  You can't blame the demise of a scene on the
departure of one man...I dunno.  Just like any city, it has its ups
and downs.  It seems like most of the netters on here have only been
around for the downs.  Parties like harmonic convergence were incredible.
Star Booty was also an awesome party.  #The superstars parties were always
super thick when it came to vibe...David Alter is even a good guy, despite
all the bad shit that has happened lately.  You cant say they dont try.

St Louis is a fun city to go to...You just have to know which parties to stay
away from.  And you cant say you've been to a good house party until you've
seen a real st louis house party.  Sure, they have a ton of drugs.  So what
...drugs can be fun...dont forget that.

Hopefully all the recent shit parties wont keep people from going to V - The
Revelation Tour.  It is being run by Connect Records, Vybrations, and one
other crew which I cant remember.  These people have always been legit,
and are responsible.  Expect the best from this party...you'll get it!

---ben / Cylert

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how bout after IO 3      


On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, star wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 	hey, it seems like what we needs is a
> 
> 					 date.
> 
> 
> 
> 	anyone?  before or after IO3? (because 
> 	that is to me as the chineese new year
> 	is to the chineese)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --star*
> 
> **********************************************************
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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Deckard wrote:

> Nice lighting and sound, plenty of couches.  It's funny, but Chicago 
> hasn't really had any swell ambient parties yet.  We're the only part of 
> the U.S. that that haven't really hit yet, it seems... So just to get an 

uuuhhhh, atmospheric audiochair, anyone??

and i'd like to know about all these other magical places all over the
U.S. where ambient has "really hit it."  wha?!?!  san fran is the only
place i know where ambient is accepted and played regularly.  i thought
chicago was up there on that short list as well because of the audiochair 
series...am i wrong? 

hopefully columbus'll be on the short list too if i have anything to say 
about it ;)

funny thing is, the best ambient/jazz/weird music rooms i've been to have 
all been in detroit.  what does that mean?
++
e d

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lets please have it b4 IO3....


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just to give a little help on this thing, i think the first thing you
should decide is where to have it, and then whoever is in that city can
work on the details.  it's pretty easy to decide stuff here in cyberspace,
but when it comes to actually getting things done, you are better off
having the ppl in that city working on it.  it is difficult throwing a
party in a city where you are not...
anyway, getting the dj's should be easy, plus deciding if you want to make
it a theme party, aka a pj party (i thinks omeone mentioned something like
that), or a regular "rave".  
about before or after IO3...i think before is good because a) it can be a
precurser and set everything up (and if we have it in ohio or indy we are
closer to kentucky, where the party will be at), and also people won't be
jetting off to school yet, or in a rush to fit one last partyb in before
school starts.
just my opinion...
-becca


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>i would be totally up for this type of shindig and would help in whatever way
>i could...
>so lets get the idea ROLLING!!
Sounds like a great idea, but we would need somebody to be the main 
organizer, the head honcho. Right now everybody's just saying "Yea, somebody 
do that!" Of course, so am I... but that's beside the point.  If somebody 
would volonter to put the whole thing together, they would have plenty of 
help from the rest of us.  I would do it, I would love to do it, but I'm 
going to be out of town for the next month, so that wouldn't work.  Also, 
what city will it be held in?  I say Madison, but that's just because I live 
here.  So, raise your hand if you'd like to organize this...

Alex 


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	eluna thus spoke  regarding a Chicago ambient party:

> uuuhhhh, atmospheric audiochair, anyone??

	uuuhhhh, no, actually, i've been to these, and not to speak harshly 
or anything (one of them was Kevin Martin, who i am very fond of, and 
Miles, etc), but the Atmospheric Audiochair thing was kind-o-lame if you 
ask me.  The ones i went to consisted of going to the Beat Kitchen (if 
remember correctly, i may represed it by now), and sitting around 
watching people smoke cigarettes at the back the place (a bar).  NOT *my* 
idea of an ambient party...no incense-a-plenty, no blankets, no pillows, no 
games and stuff, no stimulating lighting...   That of which i speak will 
have *large* spots, film loops from Baraka and various other stimulating 
movies, computer graphics (hopefully by PROBE/OVT who does Chicago's best 
rave lighting & flim loopage), and smoke if i can find a smoke machine to 
fill the room (it's BIG).   

> and i'd like to know about all these other magical places all over the
> U.S. where ambient has "really hit it."  wha?!?!  san fran is the only
> place i know where ambient is accepted and played regularly.  i thought
> chicago was up there on that short list as well because of the audiochair 
> series...am i wrong? 
						
	uuuuuuhhhhhh, like Yes, the west coast primarily, but even Texas 
has ambient parties like the hypothetical one i just described.  Check 
out the ambient list, if you wish, you *won't* find the announcements on 
this list, as it is a rave list.  I remember also seeing an announcement 
for a permanent ambient venue somewhere in Cleveland or Columbus too...
	
> hopefully columbus'll be on the short list too if i have anything to say 
> about it ;)
> funny thing is, the best ambient/jazz/weird music rooms i've been to have 
> all been in detroit.  what does that mean?
		^----------____
				another piece of evidence
	This party will be conducive to communication, rather than 
tribalism, both of which definitely have their place...

			In Resonance,
			n  o    a        h
			.. .  .   .    .      .         .



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>and i'd like to know about all these other magical places all over the
>U.S. where ambient has "really hit it."  wha?!?!  san fran is the only
>place i know where ambient is accepted and played regularly.  i thought
>chicago was up there on that short list as well because of the audiochair
>series...am i wrong?

There's lots of ambient happenings in baltimore.

The Cloudwatch (ambient-only) events have been happening once a month
for about a year and sell out every time.  There's hardly a big
name in ambient music that hasn't been in that space, including
mixmaster morris TWICE :)

Also, unlike a lot of other cities on the coast chill spaces have
made a real big comeback at parties.  It's getting to the point
where it's unusual *not* to see the retina dj's (infinity and
lovegrove) on flyers.

There's two clubs which have ambient jungle/ambient trip hop
nights (although one just closed for a bit) which both
attract a pretty cool, diverse crowd of people, not just
a bunch of 16 year old turbo ravers ;)

so put us on your short list :)

-ron


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hey i'm finally back, r.o.t.c. camp was great, i could have stayed the
whole summer (except for the facts that i couldn't go to any parties +
we weren't allowed to drink + the food was kind of bad!). our flight
(which is a group of 22 people they put each person in) won a zillion
awards, so many we lost track of all of them, including honor flight 
of the entire encampment. we had marksmanship training & shot 9mm 
pistols, survival training in the woods where we made tents & secret 
traps, JETO (jet orientation, since it's the air force) & i got to 
steer a jet + make it go upside down; but most of the time camp was
just a lot of stress + hard work. but near the end we did have a
dance, although it wasn't anything close to a rave, they played a lot
of disco music (!)--+ even the colonels who were old like probably 60
or something, along with the rest of the officers, were really getting 
down! they could dance pretty well. y.m.c.a. was already like the
unofficial theme song, kind of ironic, but nobody asked & nobody
told. anyway i just wanted to say i was back...
--
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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Rebecca Jill Maslow wrote:

> just to give a little help on this thing, i think the first thing you
> should decide is where to have it, and then whoever is in that city can
> work on the details.

	Well, just as soon as i get a nice pair of pajamas i will send an 
announcement to *this* telling how to get tickets... It *certainly* won't 
be anywhere near as expensive as the 
all-too-common-20-dollar-rave-thing-which-can't-be-explained-by-inflation.
And as far as themes go, the communication thing to which i alluded in 
another related post is Theme directed.  And malicious aliens coming to 
get us won't be it, though the possibilty of NASA's S.E.T.I. project 
searching for other "intelligences" is a possibility.  i want to think 
and talk about something stimulating at this event.  You see, with 
ambient, it's possible to put a voice talking about Tantra or 
psychoactivity or Satori or what stars are made of in the back or 
forground with some nice wishy washy reverb to help your body assimilate it.
:)
			n  o    a        h
			.. .  .   .    .      .         .



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thats cool with me i just need a ride from chicago.:)

simple


>we should deinfately have it in urbana -champiagn  (my new home as of
>august 14)   :)
>
>
>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Sarah Risken wrote:
>
>> Yeah, have the party in Champaign-Urbana... it is less likely to get busted
>> and you can get space for free probably, plus I live here, so it would
>> be really convenient :)
>>       -Sarah
>>



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actually there was a loft ambient party a few months ago.

simple

>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 kctopitz@students.wisc.edu wrote:
>> oh and the other day i came across a whole
>> shitload of that egg-crate (whatever it's called) styrofoam padding... maybe
>> we could cover the floor, play ambient, and have a giant sleeping bag war? :)
>
>        For anyone who's interested, i'm currently working on getting a
>date set at this *perfect* venue in Chicago for a pure ambient party.
>Nice lighting and sound, plenty of couches.  It's funny, but Chicago
>hasn't really had any swell ambient parties yet.  We're the only part of
>the U.S. that that haven't really hit yet, it seems... So just to get an
>idea, how many people around these parts would actually go to something
>like this?  Maybe it should be an afterparty for some first first time, i
>haven't really decided... Comments?
>
>                        n  o    a        h
>                        .. .  .   .    .      .         .



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2nds that motion.

simple
>how bout after IO 3
>
>
>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, star wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>       hey, it seems like what we needs is a
>>
>>                                        date.
>>
>>
>>
>>       anyone?  before or after IO3? (because
>>       that is to me as the chineese new year
>>       is to the chineese)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --star*
>>
>> **********************************************************
>> star@interaccess.com http://homepage.interaccess.com/~star
>> **********************************************************
>>                                                [Top Secret]
>> MA4--
>> ____Manoeuvres accompanied by a sense of reality transformation
>> ____for the observer.
>> (from) http://www.bahnhof.se/~mike/ufo/vallee.html
>>



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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, simple typed precisely this:

> actually there was a loft ambient party a few months ago.

	Where?  Was it that one down near Chinatown whose hosts got 
evicted for noise level and stanky weed?

			.. .  .   .    .      .         .



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lovethang...

come join us on july 4th as we prepare for the 2nd annual
"family affair" with...

F A M I L Y   G A T H E R I N G

thursday 
July 4th, 1996

info: 330.214.8837

akron, ohio

for those of you in town come join us on the fourth
after your family festivities

for those afar the pre-party will be only minute away from
FAMILY AFFAIR, the pre-sale tickets on sale at the party!

DJ's:

kimyon - justus crew - dayton, ohio
jordan - fresno, california
twonz - detroit's techno terrorist - detroit, michigan
joe kidd - planet earth - ups, akron, ohio
james temple - universal groove - athens, ohio
lemon lymon - universal groove - athens, ohio
jason mathew - penetrate records - alberta, canada
jack tripper - universal groove - columbus, ohio
perry ellis - calico records, love thang! - cincinnati, ohio
hesohi - lovethang/ups - akron, ohio
subgenius - calico records - cincinnati, ohio
conspiracy - ups - akron, ohio
synapse - lovethang - akron, ohio
pulserver - ups - akron, ohio


tickets: $7 @ the door

for info call: 330.214.8837


---

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33 hours of unrestricted unstoppable music!

LIVE PA'S:

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Strictly Jazz Unit
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+ more TBA

DJ's:

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Glenn Underground
Hipp-E
Dave Trance
Astroboy
Nigel Richards
Rob Paine
Melvin Meeks
Joe Lewis
Ollie
J.P. Soul
Dreamer
Kevin Bumper
Gank
Chris Pulse
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(includes free camping facilities)


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>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, simple typed precisely this:
>
>> actually there was a loft ambient party a few months ago.
>
>        Where?  Was it that one down near Chinatown whose hosts got
>evicted for noise level and stanky weed?
>


nope i think that was the one on ashland thrown by those ascii folks or
something. at that loft on ashland. i forget but i think i was there :) and
i remember thinking it wasnt much of an ambient party (musically) except
for all those kids on the floor ;)

but it was supposed to be ambient b/c gill brought a candle and i brought
my blankie..

those funky purdue kids also threw an ambient house party sometime in the
winter. ambient and fondue....yummmmmmm


kate O+



*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
 softcore geek girl
 http://charlotte.acns.nwu.edu/keight/

 



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Does anyone in the Milwaukee area know where I can rent a DAT machine for
a few days?  I'm interested in putting a mix on DAT - and yup, you guessed
it - I need a DAT machine.

Or if anyone wants to loan me their DAT for a few days - I'll gladly give
them a free tape out of it! ;)

Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...

	tom


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kate is talking about what i was talking about.
simple


>>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, simple typed precisely this:
>>
>>> actually there was a loft ambient party a few months ago.
>>
>>        Where?  Was it that one down near Chinatown whose hosts got
>>evicted for noise level and stanky weed?
>>
>
>
>nope i think that was the one on ashland thrown by those ascii folks or
>something. at that loft on ashland. i forget but i think i was there :) and
>i remember thinking it wasnt much of an ambient party (musically) except
>for all those kids on the floor ;)
>
>but it was supposed to be ambient b/c gill brought a candle and i brought
>my blankie..
>
>those funky purdue kids also threw an ambient house party sometime in the
>winter. ambient and fondue....yummmmmmm
>
>
>kate O+
>
>
>
>*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
> softcore geek girl
> http://charlotte.acns.nwu.edu/keight/
>
>



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This is a special message for all you net people.  I will tell you more
specifics on the Minneapolis party.

Lights - 4 track spots, 2 emulators, data flashes, fog machines, lamps...
etc.

Sound- 16 bass 8 high (more specifics n/a right now)

Space- 8000 sq. ft. clean warehouse with polished cement floors and clean
bathrooms.  Two rooms (although the 2nd is a little small).  Located
between 280 and Snelling off University, three minutes from the map pt.

Security- Very friendly. Two off-duty St. Paul police sitting outside the
venue all night to make sure not vandalism or theft occurs outside, as
well as to shield other security problems.  Two u-80 staff members at the
door searching for weapons, alcohol and tagging equipment.  10 u-80 staff
inside watching for tagging.  (BTW- tagging will not be tolerated)

DJs - all confirmed (except Chris Sattinger, who might be going to Europe
instead) plus DJ alaya and DJ Shaggy (not on flyer)

Vibe - awesome!

Tix - $12 w/ canned food donation
      $14 w/o

Dustin


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actually can someone remindme where it is? i guess i missplaced my eflier.
>2nds that motion.
>
>simple
>>how bout after IO 3
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, star wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       hey, it seems like what we needs is a
>>>
>>>                                        date.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       anyone?  before or after IO3? (because
>>>       that is to me as the chineese new year
>>>       is to the chineese)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --star*
>>>
>>> **********************************************************
>>> star@interaccess.com http://homepage.interaccess.com/~star
>>> **********************************************************
>>>                                                [Top Secret]
>>> MA4--
>>> ____Manoeuvres accompanied by a sense of reality transformation
>>> ____for the observer.
>>> (from) http://www.bahnhof.se/~mike/ufo/vallee.html
>>>



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I have had great times in St. Louis.  One of my favorite places to spin 
is St. Louis.  Maybe since I don't live there I don't see every party so 
I miss the real vibeless drugstores.  I will admit that the drugs FLOW 
in St. Louis but I do have a GREAT time spinning there.  Those parties 
at the Avengers mansion were the shit. :)  I really enjoyed the preparty 
for New Years eve too. Actually much better than New Years eve.  Just my 
opinion.  :)
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
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      Core Innovations and Catalyst Recordings present the return of...

                          *  J  U  I  C  E  *

                        Friday, July 5th, 1996

        * FRANKIE BONES *    - Brooklyn, N.Y. Sonic Groove / Drop Bass

        * MIKE DEARBORN *    - Chicago, IL  DJAX

        * PAUL JOHNSON *     - Chicago, IL  Peacefrog / Dance Mania   

        * TERRY MULLAN *     - Chicago, IL  Catalyst Recordings

                      ..............................

                        Friday, July 19th, 1996

        * TYREE COOPER *     - Chicago, IL  DJ INTL. Hip House Legend!

        * HIPP-E *           - Denver, CO  Soul Flower

        * HYPERACTIVE *      - Chicago, IL  Communique
   
        * TERRY MULLAN *     - Chicago, IL  Catalyst Recordings
       
                      .............................

             Friday July 5th and every other Friday thereafter 
       here in the windy city. 10pm until 5am, 17 and over with ID.
                   $8.00 before 11pm  $10.00 after 11pm

          INFO / DIRECTIONS / UPDATES... 3 1 2 . 5 0 9 . 5 1 9 5 

Coming 8/2...Josh Wink  8/16...DJ Dan, Derrick Carter   8/30...Laurent Garnier



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Tom Robbs wrote:
> 
> Does anyone in the Milwaukee area know where I can rent a DAT machine for
> a few days?  I'm interested in putting a mix on DAT - and yup, you guessed
> it - I need a DAT machine.
> 
> Or if anyone wants to loan me their DAT for a few days - I'll gladly give
> them a free tape out of it! ;)
> 
> Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...
> 
>         tom


Try a rock and roll shop.  We have a shop here in Lexington called the 
Doo Wop Shop that rents band equipment and recording equipment.  We rent 
DATs for $40.00 for a month.  Tryit it might work. :)
-- 
 
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 For bookings call 1-800-619-9296 or email trevor88@lex.infi.net

Or call my agent at 615-298-1883 (BAM Management)

 House is a feeling!!!     I love that feeling!!!     It's for love!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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                 Source and Alien Touch present...

               O  U  T  E  R     L  I  M  I  T  S
     
           August 3rd, 1996.........Chicago, Illinois
           ...The final stop of the Revelation Tour
 
     - David Hollands .........Mimimum Wage, New York
     - Efex....................The Assailant, Chicago
     - Devil Girl..............St. Louis
     - Danny the Wildchild.....Pistol Shock, Chicago
     - Mystic Bill.............Vibe Alive, Chicago
     - Jedidiah................Drop Bass, Milwaukee
     - Phil Free Art...........Free Art Happy Hardcore
     - The Hardcore Prophecy...10-Bear and the Unibomber
     - Danny...................St. Louis, Vibrations
     - Jeff Starlight..........Shelter
     - Kid Entropy.............Stepwise Records
     - Special guest DJ........from Detroit
     - Richard Devine..........Live PA, Drop Bass 666
     - Mike Dearborn...........Chicago, DJAX
     - Robert Armani...........AVC
     - Phantom 45..............CHA
     - Halo....................Teamsters
     - Maddgroove..............Incredibeets, Chicago
     - Damian..................Source Net
     - Physique................St. Louis, Connect Records
     - Biobooster..............Techno Mistress
     - Ken Meyer...............Acid Jazz
     - Carl Meier..............Trip Hop


INFO LINES:             Source.....312-409-7335   
                   Alien Touch.....312-409-0694


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Trevor said : "Those parties at the avengers mansion were the shit."

YES YES YES!!!!  I have never lost my shit more than I did at an avengers
party.  By far one of the most insane parties I was ever at.  They had
a huge nitrous tank in the bass-ment...I tripped my balls off at that
place and loved every minute of DJ TOAST!!!! (who is no longer an avenger.
Now toast is Sky Bop Fly = MUCH BETTER THAN HE WAS WITH AVENGERS)...

That house was incredible.  No other house party that I have ever been to
has even come close to being as cool as the mansion.  Those motherfuckers
knew what partying was all about.  No one else goes all out like they did.
Vibe was thicker than peanut butter!

---ben / Cylert

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OK...where is champiagn urbana????

On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Davis Daniel J wrote:

> we should deinfately have it in urbana -champiagn  (my new home as of
> august 14)   :)     
> 
> 
> On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Sarah Risken wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, have the party in Champaign-Urbana... it is less likely to get busted
> > and you can get space for free probably, plus I live here, so it would
> > be really convenient :)
> > 	-Sarah
> > 
> 
> 



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	   michael l. grimes.......liquid pleasure......liqplesr
		         *all rolled up into one*


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            Get down under the stars on a four hour cruise 
            onto Lake Michigan, from Chicago's Navy Pier!

                  The FreeLove Foundation presents...

                      T H E   L O V E   B O A T

             Saturday, August 3rd, 1996    Chicago, IL
 
                    On a double-decker yacht with:

         * JON WILLIAMS *          - San Francisco's Techno-Trance Guru

         * JIMINY CRICKET *        - Disco-Deep House Explosion

         * CHARLES E. LITTLE *     - Hard House and Acid Mutiny

         * MYSTIC BILL *           - Vibe Alive, Chicago

      This event is limited to 375 people!  Tickets are $25 pre-sale only!  
            Please purchase your tickets early, don't miss the boat!  

Tickets are available at:      LEVEL.....4195 S. Archer, Chicago  312-579-0004
       Or in person from:      David Steele and Jus' Joe
                               FREELOVE CONNECTION: 312-409-7545



     

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page@simon.wustl.edu wrote:

> Vibe was thicker than peanut butter!
> 
> ---ben / Cylert

That's definately an understatement!!!!!!!  :)

If you haven't experienced a party at the mansion.  YOU HAVEN'T PARTIED

-- 
 
 Peace and Love
 
                       trevor lamont
 
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 For bookings call 1-800-619-9296 or email trevor88@lex.infi.net

Or call my agent at 615-298-1883 (BAM Management)

 House is a feeling!!!     I love that feeling!!!     It's for love!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Hi everyone,

Mad Mike has asked me to post the following message from him:


Please post the following;
I repeat UR will not be performing anywhere around England again due to
the super heavy politics that unfortunately hovers around techno music in
that country and other reasons(please check Submerge Website for details
at http://www.submerge.com).The UR DJ Assault Squad was put together to
walk point or as a front perimeter probe for the main UR Force (Live Act)
it is our eyes and ears as to who's down and who's not back here at
basecamp in Detroit as we have no way of knowing sometimes what
mines,deceptions and booby traps the programmers have laid for us as it
becomes harder and harder spot the new models of infiltraitors that arrive
daily into the underground! These probes inserted deep into up country
ensure that when the main force arrives it comes in swift,silent and
deadly and affliates only with "Those That Know"

As anticipated our probe quickly ran into problems in the UK. Power hungry
booking agents,promoters and programmers quickly revealed themselves as
they could'nt wait to book "DJ Rolando and The Suburban Knight" at gigs
they knew UR in Detroit would have never sanctioned! This where the rash
of 4th of July gigs,and other rumoured performances are coming from! It is
quite unfortunate that we cant even send our DJ's over there without
people jumpin thru hoops to capitalize on the name. I do want to apologize
to all the UK's resistance members for any inconviences this probe may
have caused you but you cant see some infiltraitors until you splash them
with Midnight Sunshine ie;UR-029!! Also any assistance from the UK
resistance in extracting my 2 counter-insurgency specialist would be
vastly appreciated as they are on strict radio silence- send out the
choppers !!!

I would also like to apologize to the UR supporters in the Toronto area on
behalf of my Assault DJ's who did not make it back in time for the gig.
Hopefully the above mail can help you to understand whats going on. In
addition I would like to thank the whole Transendance crew ( especially
BEV ) for being so understanding and putting on a great event for a great
cause. I would formally like to offer to the Transendance Crew the talents
of my 2 assault dj's Rolando and The Suburban Knight free of charge any
nite you need them within the next 3 months!

We had bad timing with the Aux 88 Performance - apparently the police
pulled up and told the promoters to turn the music down a little and as
they were leaving the mighty ELECTRO-BASS of AUX 88 blasted thru the
system - immediately pissing them off !! This in turn made the promoters
run to me and say "Turn down the bass" not a good thing to say at party of
this intensity especially since Aux was really kickin - anyway we were
asked several times to turn it down and told that if we didnt the police
were gonna shut it down. So rather than risk having the gig shut down I
decided to end Aux's set at the second song cause Electro aint Electro
unless it got bass in it plus Murat had a hott!! set going when Aux came
in - I didnt want to kill the vibe that he had going as we could'nt play
at the same volume as him. Again I hope this clarifies what actually
happened as it was no ones fault and we would like to come back and hit
Toronto as it had a great crowd with alot of Kilowatts that we would have
like to tap in to! I always believe that the only thing that beats failure
is a good try! we tried and we will continue to try! I hope my brothers
the Lubicon Cree can win their battle with the programmers to the rest of
you Murat,Oliver,Ian, Bev,Mark Quail,Dave Cooper and the rest of the
Toronto Crew thank you for trying,keep fighting,stay low,stay strong,stay
UNDERGROUND.
                           Electric Respect,MAD MIKE UR

- Pressure breaks some and molds others -  MMUR





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-- [ From: Didier Bangudi * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

	For the most part I agree with Kell's review on how this event went. The
last time I was at the space was a while back when the Lextown guys got
Terry Mullan for a bombass party called Anomaly a long time ago so it was
nice to be back. The space itself is clubish but nice even if people are
getting tired of it.
	The lowest part of the night for me was discovering that the water in the
bathroom sinks had been turned off so that the promoters could force you to
pay for water up front and it wasn't even bottled. Arrg!!! Man that is _so_
low. Organizers that allow that crap to take place need to be pimp slapped
by every person at the party. Another sad thing about the event was how the
cover charge magically rose about three dollars when it was supposed to be
only five. Why why why?
	The music / DJ's helped to quell the above complaints because they all
served it up nice and proper. Downstairs DJs kept things real deep and
groovy which was real cool. I went outside to cool off and word got out
that Damon was wrecking the place downstairs so I ran back in to devote
myself to the dancefloor. Lil Damon had the good goop for the funky troops.
His set had variety and depth. From breaks to that funky acid that makes
Cinci kids go crazy. You really never knew what he was gonna hit you with
next which is cool 'cause some Djs get predictable.Dancing to his set was
like walking through a funky building and opening door after door and
discovering and rediscovering various funky goop. 
	Astroboy dabbled with a few hard tracks but not enough. I expected him to
destroy us with all that funky hard stuff but it never really went in that
direction. His set sounded like he was looking for something and remained
on the verge of discovering what it was. Don't get me wrong. I like
Astroboy but I wonder why he took it easy on us instead of simply
destroying us like I know he can. Like Kell did.
	In my opinion Kell came on too late but thats o.k. If I had to pick one
word to describe Kell's set it would have to be "relentless". Funky ass
breaks beating you down from all directions. Dat funky shizz-nitt that
grabs you by your punk ass booty and says: "Now you must dance." It was
more like an assault as opposed to an actual set. Terroristic beatdowns.
Jihad style. Damn!  While I was dancing (getting beat up) my body kept
saying; this is what you've been looking for. Dig it now kid, while you're
in Lextown. Dig it for real. Cut loose.
	God. Djs make your mixtapes available to us the dancers. Share with us
your groove discoveries. We're all basically on the same trip  and its all
about information exchange especially when its encoded in groove. We
download the info into our bodies through the dance and better equip
ourselves to travel through this wierd lifeway. Share.
	I had to leave much earlier than I wanted to but the event  for me was
still a blast and yes it does also seem to me like the Lextown scene is
growing. Ah yes the funky germ will spread indeed. :)                      
                                            

	All eyes on FOREVER & GET FUNKY (Indy) where I will attempt to be two
places at once.
	                                 
	                        PEACE, LOVE, & AFROSHEEN                          
                                                                           
        Shiva/Cousin Goose

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Orbital-Live
in Detroit
Monday July1
St. Andrew's Hall, Downtown Detroit
Doors open at 8pm
tix $15 at TicketSchiester

opening act hadn't been announced

check their website for more info, directions, whatever...
http://www.clutchcargos.com/~961melt

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Ok somebody wanted to know just where the hell Champaign-Urbana is...

2 hours south of Chicago
2 hours west of Indy
2 hours north of Saint Louis.

Where the 57 hits the 74 in central Illinois. Kinda west of Springfield.

Fo mo info checkit:  http://www.prairienet.org/SiliconPrairie/ccnet.html

.jeff

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Subject: The FreeBass Collective Summer of Love 1969-1996 June 28th, 1996
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                       The FreeBass Collective presents

                           Summer of Love 1969-1996
                            Friday June 28th, 1996
                             Milwaukee, Wisconsin
                                     FREE!!!

WARNING!!!  This event will be limited capacity......it will be a map point
event but it is still FREE!!!  Call the voicemail the day of the party for
more info and the hours of the map point!!!

                                414.256.1350


                            Urban Shamans include:

                  jedidiah  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                  jethrox  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                     dzak  Toolbox Tunes, Milwaukee, WI

                               kee  Madison, WI

           karma one  The FreeBass Collective/Network 10, Milwaukee, WI

    shira khan  a.k.a. mouse  The FreeBass Collective/Phreakzine, Milwaukee, WI

                phranque  The FreeBass Collective/CIB Milwaukee, WI


The FreeBass Collective is going to tear the scene a new asshole this
summer by throwing a series of FREE parties all summer long in the Home of
the HardCorps, Milwaukee, Wisconsin to show all the greedy entities that we
DO NOT need them polluting and stagnating OUR scene!!!  This is the kickoff
party!!!  Don't miss it!!!

            for more info check The FreeBass Collective web site at
            http://www.execpc.com/~blitz or e-mail blitz@execpc.com
                    or call 414.256.1350 the day of the party

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
  The cutting edge is found only in the morphing shadows of the underground
 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

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                *****bLiTz's Underground Warehouse*****
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You wrote: 
>
>What's this about teaching kids from st louis how to have a good time?!
>Just bring some crystal meth, special K, and poppers to a party!  What
>more do you need?!  Oh yeah, don't forget to dress in your best Q
>jeans, overpriced h
>tommy shirt, etc...And FEEL THE VIBE when people stare
>at you, and be sure that you don't get caught dead dancing, or else
>it might actually turn into a party.  And hopefully the dj will play
>that excellent bassbin twins loose caboose record at least 3 times
>before the night is over!  And if you are really
>lucky, you'll get to have a couple of high school dropouts come
>home with you and move in onto your couch.  Maybe some of them will
>even steal some of your shit, and try and dial long distance on your
>phone!!!    Now what was that about kids from st louis having attitude
>and not knowing how to party?!
>


HMMM Ben, I really didnt want this to turn into a flame war but you always 
find the negative in everything, please, I'm trying to pose a serious 
question to the group, your flippant remarks only indicate the seriousness 
of the problems abounding in stl...sorry Ben





>Ok, end sarcasm...ZThere have been incredible parties out there  The
>Ther4e was actually a real vibe.  Shit hasn't really been the same since 
>Lance H, Lance Hendrickson, left.  You can't blame the demise of a scene 
>on the departure of one man...I dunno.  Just like any city, it has its 
>upsand downs. 

True enough, Lance was quite an individual.  Perhaps someone will come 
along and take a stand and lead stl to a higher level, unfourtunately it 
cant be me because, I dont live there anymore.  If you have ever seen the 
way chicago gathers areound its djs, you'll understand how important it is 
to have slammn good music played by truely talented djs  (IMO DJAX 
representatives)


>It seems like most of the netters on here have only been
>around for the downs.  Parties like harmonic convergence were >incredible. 
Star Booty was also an awesome party.  #The superstars parties were always
>super thick when it came to vibe...David Alter is even a good guy, despite
>all the bad shit that has happened lately.  You cant say they dont try.
>

I agree, the promoters try hard...but something is always missed, its hard 
to put my finger on it...like at Foundation, I just think Jungle/breakbeat 
is the easiest way to kill a vibe...its just not dance music, and shouldnt 
be in the main room, I like to listen to it like in a chill area or at 
home.  So at Foundation the problem was the music (IMHO), I guess its hard 
as a promoter to put the right combonation of factors together...there are 
lots of variables:)



> And you cant say you've been to a good house party until you've
>seen a real st louis house party.  Sure, they have a ton of drugs.  So 
what
>...drugs can be fun...dont forget that.
>

Yea but drugs are used to attain a different level of understanding, once 
youve been there you remember that feeling and surprizingly dont need the 
chemical to make that leap, a leap to a higher understanding, you just have 
that door open and can step through when you want to:)



>Hopefully all the recent shit parties wont keep people from going to V - 
The
>Revelation Tour.  It is being run by Connect Records, Vybrations, and one
>other crew which I cant remember.  These people have always been legit,
>and are responsible.  Expect the best from this party...you'll get it!
>


any info on these guys?? i havent heard of them till now...

PLUR
-jason

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>>Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:28:41 -0500 (CDT)
>>From: Davis Daniel J <davisd@odo.msoe.edu>
>>Subject: JUICE:   the return

>>Juice:  what can i say   its another no vibe chicago party that disguises
>>itself as a club event (to make it legal)   i dislike the fact that when
>>you are almost knocked over/tripped by people they do not have the curtisy
>>to even smile and/or say sorry man
>>well on the music    terry mullan----i hate him   he sucks   IMO     he
>>really fucking sucks   i cant even dance to his shitty fuckin so called
>>spinning anymore     PROMOTERS IF YOU ARE OUT THERE    DO NOT HIRE TERRY
>>MULLAN    HE SUCKS HARD

I dunno.  I find that Terry Mullan is a fabulous DJ.  He is always 
spinning the best or newest shit.  Every tape I've gotten of his has been 
the phattest.  

Also, I find it kinda unnerving that a person will tell people on a 
public line not to hire a DJ that has been with the scene for so long and 
consistently.  I don't know your experience at JUICE with Terry, but it 
sounds lame to me that you would tell people to not hire him.  It might 
have been easier to swallow if you just gave a revoew that he made a bad 
showing.  That at least might have gotten him to alter his mixing style 
to the people going to the show.  Instead you seem to be fucking with his 
livelyhood.  That isn't to kind or cool.  Next time, tell him to his face 
that he sucks.  

Terry!  I am still a fan.

Jap was here


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Thought this might be helpful to some of you

love
joff



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> >                                                                      6/26/96

> >                                                                      2:28 PM

> > F.Y.I. - Virus Alert
> >
> >Subject: New Computer Viruses
> >
> >FYI:  Public Service Announcement
> >
> >Please spread the word.   Very Important!!!
> >
> >Please be aware:
> >There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you
> >receive an email message with the subject line "Good Times", DO NOT read the
> >message, DELETE it immediately.  Please read the  messages below. Some
> >miscreant is sending  email under the title "Good Times" nationwide, if you
> >get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE!  It has a virus that
> >rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it.  Please be careful and

> >forward this mail to anyone you care about.
> > WARNING!!!!!!!  INTERNET VIRUS
> >The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major
> >importance to any regular user  of the Internet. Apparently a new computer
> >virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ON LINE that is unparalleled i
n
> >its destructive capability. Other more well-known viruses such as "Stoned",
> >"Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in comparison to the prospects of this
> >newest creation by a warped mentality. What makes this  virus so terrifying,
> >said the FCC, is the fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new
> >computer to be infected. It can be spread through the existing email systems
> >of the Internet.
> >
> >Once a Computer is infected, one of  several things can happen. If the
> >computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the
> >program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in an
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> >if left running that way too long.  Unfortunately, most novice computer users

> >will not realize what is happening until it is far too late.
> >
> >Luckily, there is one sure means of detecting what is now known as the "Good
> >Times" virus. It always travels to new computers the same way in a text email

> >message with the subject line reading "Good Times". Avoiding infection is eas
y
> >once the file has been received simply by NOT READING IT! The act of loading
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> >program to initialize and execute.
> >
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> >and local system users of this newest threat to the Internet! It could save
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> >
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> >Subject:  New and Dangerous Virus For your information ...
> >
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> >EXTENSION  (see attached)
> >
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> >reliable source in DC this morning.  A NEW Trojan Horse Virus has emerged on
> >the internet with the name PKZIP300.ZIP, so named as to give the impression
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)
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> >this file, the virus WILL wipe your hard disk clean and affect modems at 14.4

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> >of cleaning up this one.
> >
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> >
> >>>         Richard D. Richins
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>
>
>


--
Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

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> I can do a juggling act at this party!  Well...okay :P
> Cynthia
Hey, great idea, I can help.  I juggle balls, clubs, and I can also Diablo 
(Those big Yo-Yo's that aren't attached to the string).

Where is this Champaign-Urbana that everyone is talking about?

>Oh yeah and some netraver DJs. Especially female ones, I say! Even though
>we're better than the korportate world, even our little scene is
>male-dominated for whatever reason.

If anybody here knows Holly of the starchildren, she spins, and I don't know 
if she's any good, but I bet she'd love the chance to spin at this party.

And somebody was saying something about bringing their sterios?  What if 4 
or 5 people brought relatively big home systems and hooked them all 
together.  That wouldn't cost anything.  Unless the dropbase system is 
actually available.  Also, we all own computers, right?  This might have 
been mentioned before, but we could have everybody willing to bring their 
computers, and the funkiest phycadelic screen savers people can find, and 
set the monitors up on top or next to the speakers.  We could put all the 
computors themselves in a safe space so they don't get knocked over/spilled 
upon.  We could do all kinds of little things and make it a super-cool event 
with little cost to the promoters.  I also know of a good space in downtown 
madison, the "Neiborhood house". It's where the thursday night Starchildren 
Raves are normally held.  It's not too big, but it has a gym that's nice for 
dancing, and it only costs $50 plus a $50 deposit.  Even though it's 
downtown, the raves there so far haven't gotten busted, because they're 100% 
legal.  I think legal is the way to go.  It's more work initialy, but then 
you don't have to worry about the cops.  Oh yea, and everybody could bring 
any fans they have around the house, to keep things cooly cool.  If this 
happens it's gonna kick ass.

Alex
 


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>LIVE PA'S:
>Strictly Jazz Unit

*explodes*

>+ more TBA

i hope so.  with the exception of da jaz unit (and barada? if that is who
they meant) this lineup is not all that.  p.s. does anyone know why tim
harper is not spinning as well?  boo williams and GU are...hmmm

>tickets:
>
>$20 @ door
>$25 advance

heh, i'll make sure *not* to buy mine in advance then.  :P

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Wed Jun 26 18:57:18 1996
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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, trevor lamont wrote:

> Try a rock and roll shop.  We have a shop here in Lexington called the 
> Doo Wop Shop that rents band equipment and recording equipment.  We rent 
> DATs for $40.00 for a month.  Tryit it might work. :)

$40 bones a month!?  WHOO HOO!  Here I was thinking it would be like $40 /
weekend!

<jiggin to and FRO!>  Now I just have to find a shop with a deal like
that. ;)

Peace, Love, and Transient DReams...

	Tom

>  For bookings call 1-800-619-9296 or email trevor88@lex.infi.net
> Or call my agent at 615-298-1883 (BAM Management)

Are you a DJ or an act?  

Peace.



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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 FOLLKJ10@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu wrote:

>       Core Innovations and Catalyst Recordings present the return of...
> 
>                           *  J  U  I  C  E  *

Ok.. for the non-regulars in the crowd... where is Juice?  Chicago?

Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...

	tom

> Coming 8/2...Josh Wink  8/16...DJ Dan, Derrick Carter   8/30...Laurent Garnier

Mmm... that's the best line in the whole message. ;)



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>like at Foundation, I just think Jungle/breakbeat
>is the easiest way to kill a vibe...its just not dance music, and shouldnt
>be in the main room

what the fuck are you yammering about?  "kill a vibe"?? that is absolutely,
180 degrees opposite the truth.  at the risk of sounding childish, what you
said is DUMB.  :P :P :P  some of the phattest vibes i've felt have been
during jangool sets, and damian/dieselboy is one of the finest US dj's IMO.
i don't understand what you are trying to say.  if you don't think he
should be playing in the main room than you should get your own punk ass to
the second room :P

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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On 26 Jun 1996, Dave Walker wrote:

> Mad Mike has asked me to post the following message from him:
> 
> Please post the following;

<snip>

hehe... god sakes.. that sounds like a ruddy video game opening. ;)  But
the motives are headstrong!

> cause. I would formally like to offer to the Transendance Crew the talents
> of my 2 assault dj's Rolando and The Suburban Knight free of charge any
> nite you need them within the next 3 months!

This is cool.  I'm glad that an open explaination was offered as too many
people get bad wraps for circumstances out of their hands.

> happened as it was no ones fault and we would like to come back and hit
> Toronto as it had a great crowd with alot of Kilowatts that we would have

TO rocks with MEGA-WATTS! ;)

Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...

	tom



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                Ha!

                Made you look...



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Oh - I've been trying to follow this but with the number of replies, my
head is spinning faster than a 45 of +8! ;)

Ok, I got that it's in the Champaign area, and I can find that.. given
directions..

When is it?  Though?

And can whoever is doing the main DJ organizing give me a buzz?  I'd
really like to spin at this event - I spin Goa Trance - I'm not sure if
anyone else is spinning the same that night, but I'd still like to get a
spot.  I've got a demo if it's necessary...

Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...

	tom


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just to inform those of you who don't already know this, the good times
virus is bull. do you think the person who started that email is laughing
their ass off at their success or institutionalized from having to delete
his own email several hundred times.

-kc


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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 kctopitz@students.wisc.edu wrote:

> just to inform those of you who don't already know this, the good times
> virus is bull. do you think the person who started that email is laughing
> their ass off at their success or institutionalized from having to delete
> his own email several hundred times.
> 
> -kc
> 
i always thought that sooner or later some computer fanatic WILL create a
virus like that and it will piss off thousands of people cuz they will
think its just another newbie hoax! 


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anyone know how to contact mister carter?

thanks

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> i always thought that sooner or later some computer fanatic WILL create a
> virus like that and it will piss off thousands of people cuz they will
> think its just another newbie hoax! 
> 
> 
I kinda doubt it- just think of what's involved. First of all, there are
tons of operating systems out there- it would have to be able to find its
way into all of them and then run on them all too.  And if there's a lot
of OSes, there's a lot more e-mail programs, at least a few for each OS.
It would have to find a way to get through holes in every one of these
programs. For people using UNIX systems via a terminal (as in most college
kids) it would then have to find a way to go from the UNIX system to the
local terminal.  I suppose it's possible, but it's realy not probable. I
think the main problem is the variety of email probrams out there.
Remember, email is just text and it would have to find a way of
translating itself from text to a binary once it was on the local system.
So it's pretty damn near impossible.

sorry for going so far off-topic, but I figured this would be kinda
informative...

later,

chris e



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... Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone's got a copy of OT Quartet's 
_Hold That Sucker Down_, Messiah's _I Feel Love_, and that vibe that goes 
"ever seen a dj dance?...". .. ... yes, ON VINYL!... sob story of another 
p00r dj that got his sh*t stolen!!!!!

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  I'm looking for a fairly new track released by DJ KiOkI (I believe) 
called _Caterpillar_ ... anyone heard of it/etc?
Thanks.

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>If anybody here knows Holly of the starchildren, she spins, and I don't know 
>if she's any good, but I bet she'd love the chance to spin at this party.

i've heard hollie spin once but i was so tired i don't really know how good
she is. regardless though she and the other starkidz are such cool peeps
that they should be invited. 

>And somebody was saying something about bringing their sterios?  What if 4 
>or 5 people brought relatively big home systems and hooked them all 
>together.

yup this was the idea. :)


  That wouldn't cost anything.  Unless the dropbase system is 
>actually available. 

freebase, and yeah i'd definitely prefer a real system.

>with little cost to the promoters.  I also know of a good space in downtown 
>madison, the "Neiborhood house". It's where the thursday night Starchildren 
>Raves are normally held.  It's not too big, but it has a gym that's nice for 
>dancing, and it only costs $50 plus a $50 deposit.  Even though it's 
>downtown, the raves there so far haven't gotten busted, because they're 100% 
>legal.  I think legal is the way to go.  It's more work 

i was just thinking about this space earlier today and was gonna post on the
possibility of using it. the space looks like it's just the right size for
something like this, and it has clean bathrooms, water, a soda machine, and
a smaller room upstairs which could potentially be used for an ambient chill
out room and an opportunity to socialize with the people we've met online.
the only thing i'm unsure about is whether it has a phone line somewhere to
hook up a net connection, but i'll try to find out tomorrow. 

now, if we were to actually have it here, this was my idea. we could have it
on the friday night before either Vanishing Point (the Communique tour
kick-off party on july 27th), or the friday night before UFO which is gonna
be sometime in september. this way everyone traveling long distances would
get more bang for their trip.

-kc


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>Tom Robbs wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone in the Milwaukee area know where I can rent a DAT machine for
>> a few days?  I'm interested in putting a mix on DAT - and yup, you guessed
>> it - I need a DAT machine.
>>
>> Or if anyone wants to loan me their DAT for a few days - I'll gladly give
>> them a free tape out of it! ;)
>>
>> Peace, Love, and Transient Dreams...
>>
>>         tom
>
if you want t drive t chicago or find a way for me to get to you in mil. i
might be able toget a portable dat from my school for free.

simple



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yeah its iin downtown chicago.
640w.hubbard.

>On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 FOLLKJ10@gbvaxa.uwgb.edu wrote:
>
>>       Core Innovations and Catalyst Recordings present the return of...
>>
>>                           *  J  U  I  C  E  *
>
>Ok.. for the non-regulars in the crowd... where is Juice?  Chicago?



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Heyyall!!  sorry if I didnt respond to any mail, but I was out of town.  Ill
get around to answering it soon.  and hey, did I hear something about an
Ambiant party?  In Chicago?  Im there!!!!!  Ill help if I can, as i live in
Chitown.  drop me a line or something.  Cheerz!<----HION
     +*+*+*+*SUPPORTS PUBLIC DISPLAYS OF CHILL+*+*+*+*+*


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is this realitive to macintoshes or just pcs? and is this really a joke?
its not very funny.

simple
>Thought this might be helpful to some of you
>
>love
>joff
>
>
>
>Forwarded message:
>> From 103116.667@CompuServe.COM Wed Jun 26 21:19:08 1996
>> Date: 26 Jun 96 21:16:07 EDT
>> From: "Wednesday A." <103116.667@CompuServe.COM>
>> To: "B. Gardner" <bgardner@scad.edu>, Snag and Jodi <snag@worldramp.net>,
>>         "Matthew C. Joffe" <joffemat@pilot.msu.edu>
>> Subject: F.Y.I. - Virus Alert
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>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>
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>> TO:    (unknown), 103116,667
>>     Shannon Stello, INTERNET:SASTELLO@AOL.COM
>> DATE:    6/26/96 5:55 PM
>>
>> RE:    F.Y.I. - Virus Alert



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 00:00:36 1996
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i saw a bunch o' copies of Caterpillar at Clubhead a week ago...give them a 
call...shouldn't be too hard to find...it's on Moonshine and all :)

the Crystal Method remix is dope!

--jeff/stuff (that guy)
@@@

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We should have it on the fourth or the weekend of at whereever the mass
thinks of....and a possible name would be fire-cracker!! fire-cracker!!
boom*boom*boom*.....

On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 kctopitz@students.wisc.edu wrote:

> 
> >If anybody here knows Holly of the starchildren, she spins, and I don't know 
> >if she's any good, but I bet she'd love the chance to spin at this party.
> 
> i've heard hollie spin once but i was so tired i don't really know how good
> she is. regardless though she and the other starkidz are such cool peeps
> that they should be invited. 
> 
> >And somebody was saying something about bringing their sterios?  What if 4 
> >or 5 people brought relatively big home systems and hooked them all 
> >together.
> 
> yup this was the idea. :)
> 
> 
>   That wouldn't cost anything.  Unless the dropbase system is 
> >actually available. 
> 
> freebase, and yeah i'd definitely prefer a real system.
> 
> >with little cost to the promoters.  I also know of a good space in downtown 
> >madison, the "Neiborhood house". It's where the thursday night Starchildren 
> >Raves are normally held.  It's not too big, but it has a gym that's nice for 
> >dancing, and it only costs $50 plus a $50 deposit.  Even though it's 
> >downtown, the raves there so far haven't gotten busted, because they're 100% 
> >legal.  I think legal is the way to go.  It's more work 
> 
> i was just thinking about this space earlier today and was gonna post on the
> possibility of using it. the space looks like it's just the right size for
> something like this, and it has clean bathrooms, water, a soda machine, and
> a smaller room upstairs which could potentially be used for an ambient chill
> out room and an opportunity to socialize with the people we've met online.
> the only thing i'm unsure about is whether it has a phone line somewhere to
> hook up a net connection, but i'll try to find out tomorrow. 
> 
> now, if we were to actually have it here, this was my idea. we could have it
> on the friday night before either Vanishing Point (the Communique tour
> kick-off party on july 27th), or the friday night before UFO which is gonna
> be sometime in september. this way everyone traveling long distances would
> get more bang for their trip.
> 
> -kc
> 
> 



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i wanted to inform you all that the date for the Crash Worship show in Clevelandhas been changed.  The new date is Tuesday, July 16th, a day earlier than
previously posted...  i'm gonna put this in e-flier form just because i think
it deserves to be on the calander even though it's not a "rave."



  legendary underground tribal artists from San Fransisco in their only are
  appearance.......
                         CRASH WORSHIP

with special guests...
                           Miss Pussycat presenting:  Flossie and the Unicorns

                         Quintron - master of the keyboard



                         Tuesday, July 16th  9pm   

                                   $10  (a bargain!)

***Advance Tickets or Reservation ONLY***     

for necessary info call: 216-861-5557






CW has been known to play for over four hours, so i consider this a bargain...
everybody who can should GO....you will NOT regret it!


--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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There were other 300 people friday night for the pre-party and more than 1000 
saturday night....no review ??????
Hummmmmm

French e

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someone mentioned something about this a while back...is it happening or what?

-kc


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>someone mentioned something about this a while back...is it happening or what?
>
>-kc
i live her and have heard nothing aboutit.



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ok id kinda likeit to be in chicago, but that is b/c i live here. but being
outside chicago might (prob. would) be better b/c i know how parties go
here alot of times(read BUSTED!)

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>ok id kinda likeit to be in chicago, but that is b/c i live here. but being
>outside chicago might (prob. would) be better b/c i know how parties go
>here alot of times(read BUSTED!)
fuckfuckfuck!!!!!!!!!!

ok maybe everyone else got eh rest of my post. there was alot more beleive me!!!

the most impoetant ting was an idea to have allthe interested parties
emailme. and ill comile a list with the ppl's citys and what ever else ppl
think is nessaseary. so things can become more definate. where ever it is
held someone is gona have to incharge of shit there. someone else allready
said it but itll be hard for someone in a diffent city to get things
ogranized.



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oh yeah please put netparty list or something in the subjest so i know.
thanks
simple



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>  I'm looking for a fairly new track released by DJ KiOkI (I believe)
>called _Caterpillar_ ... anyone heard of it/etc?
>Thanks.

izzat that dumbass track that goes "it's kinda strange, it's kinda odd,
worship me, worship me, worship me, A TECHNO GOD!!" har har har.  don't
look too hard, you might find it...that would be horrible...

p.s. if that is the track, it was played on the simpsons once :)  hahaha by
a big german guy in a sportscar who was "off to see kraftwerk"  hahahaha.
:P

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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okay...the date is very important...ppl are talking august...so let's run
this down..

aug 2..OUT..josh wink is in chicago
aug 3..OUT..jam master jay is in indy and that love boat yacht party is in
chicago
aug 9..i don't think much of anything is on...
aug 10..OUT..*drooool* LOVE REVOLUTION :) :)
aug 16-19..OUT..io3!!!  (plus the best lineup i've ever seen for a club
ever @ juice :)
aug 24-25..a "slow" weekend
aug 31..OUT..a number of parties going on in different places

so....

it looks like our options are aug 9, 24 or 25.

aug 9 is the day before LOVE REVOLUTION in chicago.  perhaps the party
could be in the chicago area and then ppl could arrange crash spaces so
they (we) can all shop the next day before hitting the RAAAAAAAAAAAAVE that
evening.  btw i'm just assuming most of us plan on going...*shrug*

aug 24-25 is a "slow" weekend but it is preceded and followed by "big"
weekends.

input?

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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From: syt@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven Y. Tsang)
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funny i recall mentioning a net ravah pahty about four months
ago when the ne-rave list had their net raver party called
MOSAIC. it wuz thrown by their sys admin, dan freelove and
it took place @ lonnie's (ultraworld) warehouse. i wuz s'posed
to do the cleveland bus trip for it, but unfortunately it wuz
being held the same date as a mid west party i helped promo,
so i had to cancel.

welp since i couldn't do the bus trip for the ne-rave list
party, i'll do it for the mw-rave list party. that is if this
thing actually happens - as mentioned, things are easier said
than done. i can also get a few of my DJ friends to spin for 
free, altho i think all the dj's should be mw-rave subscribers 
just like all the ne-rave party were ne-rave subscribers.

as for the organizor & location, my vote is for ed luna and
columbus, ohio. cuz not only duz ed have a kewl mom =), but
he & the ele mentals have consistently thrown quality events
(minimal state, red tempest, snow*fall, generator, all the
free house partys (which are usually huge net raver gatherings
anywaze since so many netters are from this area)). plus like
he said he's got access to free space, sound, and dj's (and
quality dj's at that like titonton, todd sines, monochrome,
doughboy, placebo - hell there's so many quality dj's springing
out of this area it's not even funny!). and columbus, ohio cuz
the luv & the vibe is so thick there y'just gotta experience
it to understand it - there's a reason why they say columbus
is the heart of it all! plus it's located very close to where
mw-raves wuz given birth - athens, ohio (about an hour southeast
of columbus) by our very own andrew bennett at the university of
ohio, i do believe. it's almost like returning to the source
(this also explains why there's so many damn ravahs from ohio
on this list).

of course this is just my opinion, we can all vote on it like
they did on the ne-rave list, so it's all fair & the majority
is happy =)

---

miscellaneous shout outs:

greta, welcome back to the list! i wuz wonderin what happened to u
       since Cherry!

star, uhm i'm chinese, but i don't celebrate chinese new year! i  
      don't even know when the date of it is, 'til my parents send
      me the red pockets (chinese thing, u wouldn't understand).

---

silly stevie t trivia:

when yur out watching the fireworks during the 4th of july, remember
when the chinese invented them, they never intended them to be used 
used as weapons of war - that wuz a western thing.

---

quote of the week:

"it has become abundantly clear that our technology has surpassed
 our humanity" - powder quoting albert einstein from the movie POWDER

---

on now: "wonderlust" mixed tape by sheldon drake (thanx for the tape!)

---

for a good laugh call the PLRM party info # below...

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        Ok, first off for the person asking about Caterpillar.  I got it,
it's on Moonshine, and yeah, there's one remix that's talking about how he's
a techno god.  that's kind of lame, and yeah, all tracks say produced by
"keoki and someone else."  It's my bet that that somebody else did a whole
helluva lot more.  but hey, you get to hear keoki sing =D   and yes, the
d'still's remix is the best, because it includes the "titanic build aka i
always wanted to spin that" =D  sure its keoki, but the record is the shit.
nuff said
        ok about the net party, i like kc's idea.  i think we're all gonna
second motion's for our own city, but anyway i'm on probation til aug 25 cuz
i was once a bad ass so i shouldn't really leave the state.  so if it's
before then puhleez have it in wisconsin.  i can leave the state with
permission and a pass (or just do it and hope we don't get pulled over)  but
it's not like i really want to tell my PO, oh yeah, can i go to chicago this
weekend?  you see there's this rave....;~)  and if it is in madison, i would
be willing to commit my time and $$ to putting it on.
        ok byebye
peace, marc


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Interested to see your feedback on the new issue #13..
What do you think of the record reviews?

>:-)

Stomp

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I know, it's off topic, but I'll make it quick:

1st:  I seem to recall some way to insert system commands in some UN*X boxes 
e-mails.  It's beena long time, don't ask me, and it's not really important; I 
just wanted to point it out.

2nd: GOOD TIMES really *IS* a virus.  Look at it this way:  It replicates.  It 
multiplies.  And it's always where it's not wanted.  It takes up a  ton of 
bandwidth.  It uses up valuable space, for nothing.  It may just be an e-mail 
message WARNING you about the Good times virus, but after a manner of speaking, 
I'd say it's a virus in and of itself.

-Chris



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> i always thought that sooner or later some computer fanatic WILL create a
> virus like that and it will piss off thousands of people cuz they will
> think its just another newbie hoax! 
> 
> 
I kinda doubt it- just think of what's involved. First of all, there are
tons of operating systems out there- it would have to be able to find its
way into all of them and then run on them all too.  And if there's a lot
of OSes, there's a lot more e-mail programs, at least a few for each OS.
It would have to find a way to get through holes in every one of these
programs. For people using UNIX systems via a terminal (as in most college
kids) it would then have to find a way to go from the UNIX system to the
local terminal.  I suppose it's possible, but it's realy not probable. I
think the main problem is the variety of email probrams out there.
Remember, email is just text and it would have to find a way of
translating itself from text to a binary once it was on the local system.
So it's pretty damn near impossible.

sorry for going so far off-topic, but I figured this would be kinda
informative...

later,

chris e

 


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>        Ok, first off for the person asking about Caterpillar.  I got it,
>it's on Moonshine, and yeah, there's one remix that's talking about how he's
>a techno god.  that's kind of lame, and yeah, all tracks say produced by
>"keoki and someone else."  It's my bet that that somebody else did a whole
>helluva lot more.  but hey, you get to hear keoki sing =D

You failed to mention the part where he says over and over:

"I just can't cope....without my dope"

Everytime I hear that I have to laugh :)

-ron


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>>like at Foundation, I just think Jungle/breakbeat
>>is the easiest way to kill a vibe...its just not dance music, and shouldnt
>>be in the main room

>mccusty wrote: 
>what the fuck are you yammering about? "kill a vibe"?? that is
>absolutely,
>180 degrees opposite the truth. at the risk of sounding childish, what
>you
>said is DUMB.  :P :P :P  some of the phattest vibes i've felt have been
>during jangool sets, and damian/dieselboy is one of the finest US dj's
>IMO.
>i don't understand what you are trying to say.  if you don't think he
>should be playing in the main room than you should get your own punk
>ass to                               ^
>the second room :P           |
                                            |
******************************** | this looks like an opinion, so please repect it.

******************************************
did you go to foundation?
around a thousand people attended and had a fabulous time.
the main dj's were jungle and breakbeat.
but the strange thing was that half the people stayed outside and sat and
talked. there really werent a lot of people dancing. why was that.
maybe because jungle hasnt taken hold of stlouis.

as far as this vibe killer. lets change vibe to intensity.
ive never experienced an intense jungle set like i have from acid trance
sets. i think that the intensity and NRG comes from everybody coming
together in a single space. at foundation half danced and half sat
outside. i think this creates half the NRG and half the intensity. so actually

i define VIBE as NRG + INTENSITY + EVERYBODY TOGETHER.
                ^--------------------------------------
i have found about 3 parties with good VIBE in stlouis and i loved it.

PEACE AND LOVE; DON'T PUSH AND SHOVE.

giles

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Several tings about the net.rave have to be figured out b4 we can get 
moving, most importantly:

City
Promoter
Date
Name (if only so that we can refer to tha damn thing!)

Once we've got those, we can worry about equipment, transportation, lineup, 
etc.  I request that we mainly limit our postings to ideas about those four. 
 Here are my li'l ideas:

City: Looks like it's down to a fight between Madison, Champaign-Urbana,     
    and Columbus Ohio.  My vote goes to Mad Town, 'cause we've already       
  proposed a site, it's kinda close to Milwaukee, Mnpls, and Chi,         
and -oh yeah- I live there.  If we agree on these three places, or         
any three or four places, as the contenders, I'd be willing to         take 
votes that ya'll can email to me, and post the winner.
Promoter:  Volunteer, folks!  I'm gone from July 18-August 18, so I can't    
     do it, but I'll definitely help a lot.  Marc Egley, maybe?  Pleez?      
   This'll be a big factor in choosin' a city... post if you'll         
organize!
Date: August 24 or 25 sounds good; if it's in Madison, the weekend in        
 September that UFO is on would be great. (UFO rocks my world!)         
August 9 is too close, plus, I won't be here ;)   I might take         votes 
on the date, too; I'm not sure. 
Name: Post ideas... we can vote on the best ones... plain ole net.rave    
might work, if our brains are too dulled to think of anything better...
  Bad idea: E-Rave  (does that stand for electronic, or...)
  Better: How about MEGALITH?

Yeah, I like that... anyhow, let me know what ya think.  

Oh yeah, my $.02 about Terry Mullan:

>I find that Terry Mullan is a fabulous DJ.  He is always 
>spinning the best or newest shit.  Every tape I've gotten of his has been 
>the phattest. 

Absolutely agree here... boy's got skills!  Maybe you saw him on a bad 
night; if you really want to see what he's all about, pick up a copy of the 
mix tape "Live @ Equal" and play it a couple of times- I almost garauntee 
you'll become a fan.

Keep the scene real, this is our future.

And finally: that "Bodacious Ben" ting as my real name is the product of a 
diseased computer in its death throes, not a weak attempt at humor.  Forgive 
the poor machine; it's in therapy.
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From: Bruce Noe <brucen1@molo01.lcc.uky.edu>
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Here are the directions to Forever being held this weekend in Lexington at Club HERESY. Remember this is a free party to celebrate Juliana and Bruce's wedding.


>From Nashville 

---------
Take BG Parkway into Lexington.
BG comes out onto Versailles Road.
Follow Versailles Road al the way into town.
It will turn into Maxwell Road.
Turn left onto Limestone(at PepTab & BW3).
Turn left onto Main Street.
Heresy will be in that block on the left.
Go through the next light and you can use the parking garage on the left for free.

>From Louisville and cincinnati and Knoxville
----------------------------------------------
>From 75 and 64 take exit 113 Paris exit.
Go towards Lexington(cant miss the buildings)
Take this road alll the way into town, Past Transylvania University,
Turn left onto Short Street.
Take the second right onto upper.
The next light will be Main Street.
Heresy will be on your left, but Main is a one-way, so PARK!
If you turn right there is a parking garage(free) to the immediate left.


If ya get lost here's the number to the club..606.258.2662

and heres the info line numbers..
502.569.1969
606.226.6850
317.767.7863

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Here are the directions to Forever being held this weekend in Lexington at
Club HERESY. Remember this is a free party to celebrate Juliana and Bruce's
wedding.


>From Nashville 

---------
Take BG Parkway into Lexington.
BG comes out onto Versailles Road.
Follow Versailles Road al the way into town.
It will turn into Maxwell Road.
Turn left onto Limestone(at PepTab & BW3).
Turn left onto Main Street.
Heresy will be in that block on the left.
Go through the next light and you can use the parking garage on the left for
free.

>From Louisville and cincinnati and Knoxville
----------------------------------------------
>From 75 and 64 take exit 113 Paris exit.
Go towards Lexington(cant miss the buildings)
Take this road alll the way into town, Past Transylvania University,
Turn left onto Short Street.
Take the second right onto upper.
The next light will be Main Street.
Heresy will be on your left, but Main is a one-way, so PARK!
If you turn right there is a parking garage(free) to the immediate left.


If ya get lost here's the number to the club..606.258.2662

and heres the info line numbers..
502.569.1969
606.226.6850
317.767.7863
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Subject: Excaliber Sept 7th, 1996 Louisville kY

Evolution Production presents

Excaliber

djs From the United Kingdom
Mikey B/ Diablo  Those of you who heard him at bassrush know he is 
		phenominal
KMC  		Scotlands #1 junglist, also he is the most in demand
		producer of the moment.
TinTin		Hard and Goa trance specialist, amazing
Sonar		Happy hardcore to make you bounce

djs from the US
Steve Loria 	LA house pioneer
Graeme		Funky Techno Tribe San Fran, progressive house and trance
Lars		Mtv's Real world, Berlin, London, now living in NY

Live PA by Hyperactive - his first acid house pa in Forever.

this is a one room all headliner event, featuring the finest djs and gear
to produce the best dance experience possible.

tim 
evolution productions




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Evolution presents

Teknosaurus

this is an early line-up expect more djs to be added soon.

Lenny Dee
T-1000
Carlos
Doc Martin
Feelgood

plus at least 2 European djs tba

tim
evolution productions



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i know nobody cares, but i just thought i'd post this as
an expression of my appreciation for dj's farmer tea and ummmm
who both spun last nite at our little thing at cedars.

farmer tea kicked an awesome jungle set followed by a
good (but too short) set from ummmm... *yay!*

wow, this cedars thing is taking off... we even had some kids
from seattle!!! (they came all the way just for cedars! ;)

as always, massive respect to troutsoup and collapse...

peace,
mindkiss


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mindkissy sed:
=================================================================
i know nobody cares, but i just thought i'd post this as
an expression of my appreciation for dj's farmer tea and ummmm
who both spun last nite at our little thing at cedars.

farmer tea kicked an awesome jungle set followed by a
good (but too short) set from ummmm... *yay!*

wow, this cedars thing is taking off... we even had some kids
from seattle!!! (they came all the way just for cedars! ;)
===================================================================

hmmm they wouldn't by chance be brian r. (ex-sugarkid) and
his sis, who's actually from youngstown, but his parents
live in seattle now would they?

if it is tell him to drop me a line on my v-mail# below, i
haven't heard from him since 420. we gotsa talks about hooking
up for FA 2. speakin o which it wuz his sister that wuz pictured
in Massive for the FA pic last year. coinkidinkly it wuz brian
who took a majority of the pics used in the PLRM w/ all the FA
reviews. 

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Heya,

Did ayone go to the party that (may have been) called SUMMER SOLSTICE 
in Keslo, Tennessee this last weekend?  A very small party on this 
dude's farm with several fantastic jungle DJs, including Chek and 
Lary Breaks, as well as Jace and some others -- it was a kickass 
party, fabuloso sound system, megabass, a nice bonfire too!  I had a 
blast at this very small party (maybe 30-50 people?) -- just a shame 
there weren't more people dancing (probably because like the majority 
of people there were DJ's it seemed)  I tip my hat to whoever threw 
this party (Email me man!) and you really ought to do it more often 
:)

On another quick note, I hate to see jungle gettin dissed really on 
the list.. as a huge jungle fan I can tell you that nothing will 
really set me off better than jungle -- If I'm at a party and hear a 
jungle track, man I get that RUSH, and it is a truly scary sight to 
behold as I will truly SPAZ OUT, dancing like a maniac and 
encouraging others to do so :)  My girlfriend and I don't really like 
DEEP HOUSE that much either, but I would never complain that it was 
being spun (as I would hope people wouldn't complain about jungle) -- 
and of course everybody loves the intimate 2nd room hard acid sets 
and the like ;)

peace
bboy

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well, it looks like that space in madcity is going to fit both the budget 
and size that this event is  looking to be.  does anyone have a phone 
number for the starchildren and/or the owners of the space?  i've never 
been there but all props to the starchildren for throwing some parties 
that got excellent net.reviews.

however, and this is the problem in the bigwest, is that we have really
two or more very distinct areas.  there's the indy and west/south and the
madison and north/east and waay over to neverneverland in pb-cle list or
even st. louis  territory.  the problem is trying to get ALL of them
either a) to drive or b) have it in thier hometown.

and champaign-urbana does seem to be very centrally located, the rest of 
you can just gas up ;)

--OR-- (and this is only half tongue in cheek)
	if we can get someone in each city to set up a housepartyish sized event 
and have an ISDN line to that space, a set of tables, a mixer, a computer, 
and a sound system, we could have a more virtual party with a deejay 
playing in each city FROM THAT CITY in real time, thanks to the RealAudio 
technology the aliens have bestowed upon us most recently.  perhaps we 
should talk to the ppl who make realaudio and see if we can get them to 
sponsor an event like this.  i know HotWired and Wired Magazine would 
probably like to get involved.  heh, us bleeding edgers.  (and we were all 
wondering what the next big thing would be, now that raves and 
lollapalooza are both mainstream)  ;]

as for deejays, well we seem to have that covered...perhaps we should go 
ahead and say that we'll ONLY have net.djs because we know we can muster 
the talent and if we don't make a huge investment we can do it without 
leaning on the hope that a buncha other ppl will come and pay for some 
namer who is really just another guy from another city who happens to not 
be on the internet.  big deal.  and i *know* you kids.  you'll dance to 
anything!  no matta if the dj has an "@" in his name or NOT =P

ummmm....whatelse?  oh yeah, before IO3, after IO3, hrmm...two votes for 
before and two votes for after  this kinda needs to be decided before we 
can start making reservations for anything...space, sound, lights, djs, 
airplane tickets, T3 lines, oil projectors, rental cars, cotton candy 
machines, juggling acts, unicyclists, lonely acoustic guitarists...(wait, 
maybe not the lonely guitarists, but you get the point, i'm in a goofy 
mood)

so lets weigh the pros and cons.  before IO3 we can all get together and 
bond and hang and meet one another before we go camping together, and 
after IO3 we've had a chance to make sure that EVERYBODY knows about it 
and is in attendance.

and finally, i have a humble request.  in whatever city we have this, 
however we do finally pull this off, is it possible to throw a free, 
totally absolutely free party?  or even free with canned food donation or 
$5 without?  for EscapeVelocity jj had ppl send him email for two weeks 
before the party and he let all the netravers in for free.  if nothing 
else we could do that, but that kinda seems like dancing on the backs of 
the uninitiated, i dunno.

or maybe well have it be $5 and let ppl in free if they have some kind of 
fun random thing like if they have stickers or a stuffed animal or fruit 
or more than one bottle of cold water or three or more blowpops or any of 
those other silly party things that ppl give away.

did i mention that these were ramblings?

see you all at FOREVER.

--st@r*					;]

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p.s. Could someone clue me in as to the DJ lineup of FOREVER -- it 
sounds like it would be a great event, but I'm unfortunately 
unfamiliar with a lot of those DJ's -- any junglists in the bunch? 
<snicker>

peace
bboy
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why?  because i say so, and i like friday parties better.

please come up with a place in champaign, mr. gage & co.,
no disrespect to madison, but that's a LONG drive from, say
colombus, ohio.

of course we could have it in des plaines because i live there.  =P


so take the date, put it on yer calendar, doodle it on the back of your 
mouse, and write it in lipstick on your rear view mirror, 'cause you're 
gonna be there if i have to come GET you.

--star*
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 12:21:34 1996
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Don Moore wrote:
> 
> p.s. Could someone clue me in as to the DJ lineup of FOREVER -- it
> sounds like it would be a great event, but I'm unfortunately
> unfamiliar with a lot of those DJ's -- any junglists in the bunch?
> <snicker>
> 
> peace
> bboy
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Here is the line-up with D.J.'s who may spin Jungle noted with a Star *

ps - remember this party is FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!

JUNE 29th 1996                  LEXINGTON, KY            FOREVER
Come on down and help us celebrate the wedding of Bruce(tig) and 
Julliana

at HERESY 140 E. Main St. (yes... AGAIN)

  The MASTERS OF MAHEM
--------------------------
Feelgood (Fever-Baltimore)
Goodwill (Zenith Prod-Deleware)
Trevor Lamont (Zenith Prod-Lexington)
Chip B (Nashville)
Kell (NO promotions-Lexington)
Damon (Cincinatti)
Cory (Lexington)
Sean Catinella (Knoxville)
Live PA by Craco Saca (Bloomington)
COSMIC (Pro-Vinyl - Lexington) *
Mutt (Flav-o-Rich-Lexington)
Madam Butterfly (first time EVER on Earth!!!!)
Frenche (Maxximum-Louisville)
Jace (Nashville)
Braddy Daddy (Hip Hop MASTER!!! - Lexington)
Vrave's own STAR! (chicago)
Darby (Dayton)
Rhea (Cincinatti) *
Troll (Cincinatti) *
X-ian (Cincinatti)
Binky (Lexington)

This is a FREE party... And MAN, I mean FREE!!!  $0

Starts at 11:00PM, goes till the cows come home...

For More INFO:

317-767-7863 (indianapolis)
502-569-1969 (louisville)
606-226-6850 (lexington)

Sound By Maxximun :)

At Least two (2) rooms of GROOOOOOVE



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yes i agree terry is a TERRIFIC DJ on CD AND CASSETTE that is    i
personally have a few tapes of his and they are FABULOUS  but in my
experiences in the past 8 months  terry has not performed well AT ALL   

Yes mr. mulla/en has been in the scene for many many years and yes he was
(IMO)/is a great DJ  but he i do not understand why promoters keep hiring
a Dj on past reputation   if you were an owner of a major league baseball
team would you hire a past star along with his past asking price and get
subpar results????  my answer: Hell NO!!!!

> 
> I dunno.  I find that Terry Mullan is a fabulous DJ.  He is always 
> spinning the best or newest shit.  Every tape I've gotten of his has been 
> the phattest.  
> 
> Also, I find it kinda unnerving that a person will tell people on a 
> public line not to hire a DJ that has been with the scene for so long and 
> consistently.  I don't know your experience at JUICE with Terry, but it 
> sounds lame to me that you would tell people to not hire him.  It might 
> have been easier to swallow if you just gave a revoew that he made a bad 
> showing.  That at least might have gotten him to alter his mixing style 
> to the people going to the show.  Instead you seem to be fucking with his 
> livelyhood.  That isn't to kind or cool.  Next time, tell him to his face 
> that he sucks.  
> 
> Terry!  I am still a fan.
> 
> Jap was here
> 
> 


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From: Davis Daniel J <davisd@odo.msoe.edu>
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i would like to suggest the weekend of august 24-25   we do something   i
have not heard of any parties going on that are worthwhile (yet)
please not august 9    i will be in process of moving (like anyone cares
besides me)     so whatda ya say   a vote  august 24-25  ????    
and where

madison, WI  
or 
champaign, IL     these are the only two that have represented interest
i know madison has tons of boys and grrls that "rave"  but champiagn only
has two-three (and me soon)   but champiagn has basically never had a
party    so ponder the possiblities


On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:

> okay...the date is very important...ppl are talking august...so let's run
> this down..
> 
> aug 2..OUT..josh wink is in chicago
> aug 3..OUT..jam master jay is in indy and that love boat yacht party is in
> chicago
> aug 9..i don't think much of anything is on...
> aug 10..OUT..*drooool* LOVE REVOLUTION :) :)
> aug 16-19..OUT..io3!!!  (plus the best lineup i've ever seen for a club
> ever @ juice :)
> aug 24-25..a "slow" weekend
> aug 31..OUT..a number of parties going on in different places
> 
> so....
> 
> it looks like our options are aug 9, 24 or 25.
> 
> aug 9 is the day before LOVE REVOLUTION in chicago.  perhaps the party
> could be in the chicago area and then ppl could arrange crash spaces so
> they (we) can all shop the next day before hitting the RAAAAAAAAAAAAVE that
> evening.  btw i'm just assuming most of us plan on going...*shrug*
> 
> aug 24-25 is a "slow" weekend but it is preceded and followed by "big"
> weekends.
> 
> input?
> 
> bring back checkerboard sleeves,
> michael
> allroy
> 
> http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
> **************************************************************************
> "it's your time, you can dance if you want to"
>                                            -derrick carter
> **************************************************************************
> 
> 
> 


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> and where
> 
> madison, WI  
> or 
> champaign, IL     these are the only two that have represented interest
> i know madison has tons of boys and grrls that "rave"  but champiagn only
> has two-three (and me soon)   but champiagn has basically never had a
> party    so ponder the possiblities

Well IMHO and personally both of those places are WAAAY far away from 
Nashville, too far for me to drive :)  Why not someplace like 
Lexington, Louisville, St. Louis, or Memphis?  (or even Nashville :)

peace
bboy

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I have space in my car for anyone needing a ride to further.  If you live along
I-75 coming from Michigan let me know.  I can pick you up on friday.  I'm
leaivng tomorrow at 4:30 about so i'll get there depending on how long it takes
me to get where you are.  I figure it will take about 7 hours to get to
lexinton.

Anyways drop me some e-mail and leave your phone number so i can call you back,

here is my number anyways too  ask for matthew   517-355-9062, oh by the way
i'm coming from Lansing if that helps you out at all


 -- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

e-mail:  joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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City
Promoter
Date

I just wanted to add something.  I don't know if I can speak for the rest of
us here in KY, but it feels like we are sometimes somewhat forgotten when
people think of the midwest.  I consider myself part of the midwest...so be
as nice to us as you can when deciding on the CITY.  As far as I can tell
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>
p.s. Could someone clue me in as to the DJ lineup of FOREVER -- it 
sounds like it would be a great event, but I'm unfortunately 
unfamiliar with a lot of those DJ's -- any junglists in the bunch? 
<snicker>

peace
bboy


Here...Kell and I will help you out.

Feelgood (baltimore) - progressive house
trevor lamont (lexington) - deep house
goodwill (deleware) - same as trevor
sean catinella (knoxville) - house
chip b. (nashville) - house
Kell (lexington) - breaks/goa
Star (chicago) - acid jazz
FrenchE (louisville) - trance
Damon (cincy) - lil bit of everything
Braddy Daddy (lexington) - hip hop
Madame Butterfly (first appearance on earth) - vocal house
Jace (nashville) - ???
Mutt (lexington) - house
Darby (dayton) - hard house
Rhea (cincy) - jungle
Troll (cincy) - jungle
Cosmic (lexington) - jungle
Binky (lexington) - hip hop
X-ian (cincy) - trip hop/slow breaks
Cory (lexington) - house

Okay so that's the line up.  The music is gonna be good, the vibe is gonna be
great and it's FREE!  So everyone come down!!  please?  :)    Okay take care
everyone!  Drive safely!!  bye bye
Peace out
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                       The FreeBass Collective presents

                           Summer of Love 1969-1996
                            Friday June 28th, 1996
                             Milwaukee, Wisconsin
                                     FREE!!!

WARNING!!!  This event will be limited capacity......it will be a map point
event but it is still FREE!!!  Call the voicemail the day of the party for
more info and the hours of the map point!!!

                                414.256.1350


                            Urban Shamans include:

                  jedidiah  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                  jethrox  Drop Bass Network, Milwaukee, WI

                     dzak  Toolbox Tunes, Milwaukee, WI

                               kee  Madison, WI

           karma one  The FreeBass Collective/Network 10, Milwaukee, WI

    shira khan  a.k.a. mouse  The FreeBass Collective/Phreakzine, Milwaukee, WI

                phranque  The FreeBass Collective/CIB Milwaukee, WI


       live video mixing by The Brain Farmer a.k.a. Demon Puppet Visuals


The FreeBass Collective is going to tear the scene a new asshole this
summer by throwing a series of FREE parties all summer long in the Home of
the HardCorps, Milwaukee, Wisconsin to show all the greedy entities that we
DO NOT need them polluting and stagnating OUR scene!!!  This is the kickoff
party!!!  Don't miss it!!!

            for more info check The FreeBass Collective web site at
            http://www.execpc.com/~blitz or e-mail blitz@execpc.com
                    or call 414.256.1350 the day of the party

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
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 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

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Joffe said:

>I have space in my car for anyone needing a ride to further.  If >you live
along
>I-75 coming from Michigan let me know.  I can pick you up on >friday.  I'm
>leaivng tomorrow at 4:30 about so i'll get there depending on >how long it
takes
>me to get where you are.  I figure it will take about 7 hours to >get to
lexinton.

>Anyways drop me some e-mail and leave your phone number so >i can call you
back,

>here is my number anyways too  ask for matthew   >517-355-9062, oh by the
way
>i'm coming from Lansing if that helps you out at all


> -- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

>dj joff

>e-mail:  joffemat@pilot.msu.edu


I think he meant a ride to FOREVER. (in lexington this Saturday) 



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Thanks D. for pointing this out to me,  i seem to making this a habit now, i
meant forever.  Sorry to many things going on in my tiny little head.

 --
Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

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>  That wouldn't cost anything.  Unless the dropbase system is
>>actually available.
>
>freebase, and yeah i'd definitely prefer a real system.


this is blitz from The FreeBass Collective......when and if you guys get
this all planned someone either e-mail me or call me at 414.659.2398 and
let me know the date, if the FreeBass sound system is not in use that day
and it is relatively near milwaukee we can work something out for the use
of our sound system i am sure

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
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 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

                  ____     __________       FreeBass Collective/
       ____      /   /    /___   __ /_____  Network 10 Productions/
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   /   /_____/   /     /  /  /     /  /     4230 North Oakland Ave. #246
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>okay...the date is very important...ppl are talking august...so let's run
>this down..
>
>aug 2..OUT..josh wink is in chicago
>aug 3..OUT..jam master jay is in indy and that love boat yacht party is in
>chicago
>aug 9..i don't think much of anything is on...

august 9th the Generation OV Noise tour hits wisconsin with a 3 day outdoor
FREE rave sponsored by The FreeBass Collective, Drop Bass Network, and The
Generation OV NOise


>aug 10..OUT..*drooool* LOVE REVOLUTION :) :)
>aug 16-19..OUT..io3!!!  (plus the best lineup i've ever seen for a club
>ever @ juice :)
>aug 24-25..a "slow" weekend
>aug 31..OUT..a number of parties going on in different places
>
>so....
>
>it looks like our options are aug 9, 24 or 25.
>
>aug 9 is the day before LOVE REVOLUTION in chicago.  perhaps the party
>could be in the chicago area and then ppl could arrange crash spaces so
>they (we) can all shop the next day before hitting the RAAAAAAAAAAAAVE that
>evening.  btw i'm just assuming most of us plan on going...*shrug*
>
>aug 24-25 is a "slow" weekend but it is preceded and followed by "big"
>weekends.
>
>input?
>
>bring back checkerboard sleeves,
>michael
>allroy
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
>**************************************************************************
>"it's your time, you can dance if you want to"
>                                           -derrick carter
>**************************************************************************

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
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 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

                  ____     __________       FreeBass Collective/
       ____      /   /    /___   __ /_____  Network 10 Productions/
      /   /     /   /     /__/  /_____   /  bLiTz GrafX Studios/
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    /   /     /   /     /  /  /     /  /    blitz@execpc.com
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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Bruce Noe wrote:

> Here are the directions to Forever being held this weekend in Lexington at Club HERESY. Remember this is a free party to celebrate Juliana and Bruce's wedding.
> 
*edited*
> Heresy will be on your left, but Main is a one-way, so PARK!
> If you turn right there is a parking garage(free) to the immediate left.
> 
Actually, I think they have started charging to park in that lot, but 
there are other places to park and plenty o street parking.

*~cosmic~~~
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That weekend started Thursday afternoon for me and my crew. We loaded up the 
truck and left for Murfreesboro, TN to get some gear and headed for St Louis. 
We got to St Louis around 7 am, got some sleep and went to the space to set up 
the first room and second room. The pre-party started at 11 pm. I think around 
300 or more people showed up. My problem was the heat and the damm 
mouskitouZZes. Every one was outside. The music was on only in the second 
room. Due to the excessive heat, all the amps (Crown) kept on shutting down. 
Too many drugs were present (i was offered all kinds of stuff including roofie 
and coke ?????)

Saturday afternoon, we came back to set up the third sound system.
Saturday was even hotter. Same as friday night, most of people were outside, 
because it was was too hot inside. The temperature reached 112 inside the 
warehouse. 

DJ's :
-Express....only shit...it was the first time I heard him, but he was 
goooooooood, really good
-Dieselboy : perfect as usual....mad at myself for not taping his set. he is 
probably mad at me too for forgetting to press record...sorry Damian
-Glenn Underground : good....weird mixing technik.....he got people going 
crazy
-DJ Ice : perfect mixing.....
-Carlos : stop...shit....catch a deep breath ----> fucking A+....he did the 
best job I have ever seen him do....His set was excellent.....more than 
excellent. he was boucing around while spinning, he scratching was better than 
anyone else I have seen in the last 4 years. I am going to enjoy listenning to 
his set over and over until the tape dies.

I did not hear any other dj in the other two rooms, because I had to watch the 
temperature in the racks to prevent shit from happening.

The after party got shut down.

bad point : to much heat, but who can control that and to many drugs.

See you at V in St Louis July 5-6 and Forever this weekend



French e



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>>>like at Foundation, I just think Jungle/breakbeat
>>>is the easiest way to kill a vibe...its just not dance music, and shouldnt
>>>be in the main room

>>mccusty

>giles

Don't make me tell mom you guys are starting this again... ;)

LOL  bad net-ravers!!!  hahahahahahahahaha


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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, trevor lamont wrote:

> 
> At Least two (2) rooms of GROOOOOOVE
> 
That's THREE rooms of GROOOVE  BEYOTCH!!!!! ;)

See you all there!

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Dj Cosmic                                            v-mail: (606) 323-7000 x307
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>yes i agree terry is a TERRIFIC DJ on CD AND CASSETTE that is    i
>personally have a few tapes of his and they are FABULOUS  but in my
>experiences in the past 8 months  terry has not performed well AT ALL

I think, from my experiences hearing terry spin as of late, that his
performance depends a lot on the crowd and the general feel of a party.
Everytime I've seen Terry play his best the party has been absolutely
amazing already... It's hard to get down and save a party... so many times
I've hoped Terry really would save a party, and often (for me personally)
he has.  But it's a lot to ask of someone.  I think spinning a lot of
deader than dead parties can take it's toll on a dj... after a while that
whole icky feeling starts to stick to the records and *poof* there goes all
your energy...

Terry is a terrific Dj and you don't just wake up one morning and suck...
He doesn't suck... I know, I've seen him spin great.  If he's not spinning
so well... it's something else...  (it aint easy to remember that when you
shell out $20 to see him though, I know... but try)


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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 15:06:46 1996
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	What is the Cybertribe Writer's Guild?

CWG is a collection of creative writers and reviewers that all share the common
bond of being in the Global family of Cybertribes.  The purpose of ths list is
to provide a forum for writers of the raving community to have their work read
and enjoyed by an audience they are familiar with.  
	Since we are diverse people, it is expected that this list will see
diverse styles and themes of writing.  Nothing is too strange.  This list is
for the submission of long and short fiction, poetry, prose, haiku, and
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 15:25:25 1996
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        Net party:
        
                Me a promoter, ha ha dont kid yourself ;~) no really, i
would be willing to help put on something like this...i'm sure me and kent
(k.c.) could make the arrangements if you guys think madison is an ok
site...  if it is in madison, i suggest 1 of these two dates:
        1.  for all those who can't wait
                July 26- this is a friday, the night before the
communique/Vanishing Point party, so you         guys could make more of
your weekend.  i'm absolutely positive this party is gonna go off (both
of them for that matter)   at least i know i'm gonna go OFF
        2.  for those with patience
                September 6- this is the night before Erotishock's UFO 3,
and again, this party is sure to         make you a believer in the madison
scene

here's how it could work- i will have tables buy sept.6 definitely, and july
26 w/ any luck.  mine could be used.  sound system- free bass system or a
ragtag collection of speakers.  lights-whatever we can get.  i'm sure we
could get some attractive non intelligent fixtures.  the space has already
been discussed for madison...

so basically i wanna know what you guys think-  green light or red light.
it would be good to have this decided soon....

FreeBass Party
        Hey, i would really like to go to this tomorrow night cept i need a
ride, anybody from maddyson going?  if so i would greatly appreciate
it....email me privately if you can.  gas $ and conversation included to
compensate your generosity

        ANYWAY.....   Peace,    Marc


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On 27 Jun 1996, Chris Jansen wrote:

> 1st:  I seem to recall some way to insert system commands in some UN*X boxes 
> e-mails.  It's beena long time, don't ask me, and it's not really important; I 
> just wanted to point it out.

yep, that definitely worx with IBM's version of UNIX, AIX v3.1.5 - 3.2.5,
at least machines that haven't had da patch installed.  also worx with a
few others too. u can mail to the Bourne shell and it'll execute the mail
as a script but you have to mail it to a account on the system that is
setup to run the shell with -ax (i think) parameters during login.  i 
used to have the url for a site with docs on all reported bugs in os's 
but i dont have it.  i think it's somewhere on www.spy.org

> 2nd: GOOD TIMES really *IS* a virus.  Look at it this way:  It replicates.  It 
> multiplies.  And it's always where it's not wanted.  It takes up a  ton of 
> bandwidth.  It uses up valuable space, for nothing.  It may just be an e-mail 
> message WARNING you about the Good times virus, but after a manner of speaking, 
> I'd say it's a virus in and of itself.

technically speaking, it's a worm if it goes from system to system.  just 
like robert morris's lil' worm that fuked up over 4,000 computers on the 
net in the late 80s.  his worm exploited holes in sendmail, fingerd, and 
a couple other UNIX programs.

as for this worm/virus/whatever.  i have no idea.  but talkin' to a comp 
sci prof at the UW, he said it was a load of shit.

	<*takes of his nerd glasses and pocket protector*>

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Hi guys!!!

 Well, I'm here in Germany now.. *huge grin* And because of that I'm gonna
unsub while I'm here.. I can't handle the mail load... I mean, it's almost back
to the old days.. I didn't login for a day and a half and I had over 100 new
messages! yikers!!! if you feel that something is SUPER important, please
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 I'll have a blast at Loveparade for ya'all!! =P~ haahaahaahaa

*now officially engaged and has the ring to prove it!*

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Subject: Re: DJ LIST

> ok, here's my problem.
> i remember that dj list thingy that was posted on mw-raves
> a long time ago.  it was about 6 pages long (probably an 
> over estimation), and it just had a huge list of dj names.
> well, a friend of mine doesn't have links to the net.  he's 
> a great jungle dj and has played out at a couple o' small
> parties in st. louis.  i was telling him about this list
> the other day, and he wants me to see if i can put his name
> on it.  he just got booked for some party east of here...i 
> can't remember the name...haven't seen it posted yet, tho...
> and, anyway, he figures, the more connections, the better.
> so if someone could tell me how to put his name on there,
> i'd greatly appreciate it, as would he :)

Well, for the project I am currently doing, any DJ who lives in the STATE
of MISSOURI (aka misery) who has info to be passed along will be listed on
the site.  Lets say that dj x (this is made up) has his/her name, contact
numbers, style of music he/she spins mailed to me, then dj x gets on the
list, if they are from missouri.  If say superstar dj disaster (a
partially made up dj name) exists, is the best thing ever in your opinion,
yet I dont have the info sent to me, I wont put it up on the mo-raves
page.  Its simple.  What I get that is current is what I will put up on
the page.  Its nothing more than an info base for people, interested in
the regionalistic genre of mo-raves, interested in the Djs from missouri
who spin within the genre.
Now the idea of a missouri list also must include those who live near
missori.  Say Ajia DJs and wants her name on the mo-rave list, but she
actually lives right over the border in Illinois. Hey, its just as good.
But if DJ Sneak (chicago) wants on the listing, then its not the same
thing, and therefor wont make the list.  Same thing goes for people who
live just on the Kansas side of KC.  I think you all understand the point
now.
The DJ list, the promoter list, the events list are all for things in
Missouri, or right on the borders... follow the same specifications from
above for these lists.

By the way, I do appreciate all the info which has been and will be given
to me for this project.
So, send it along.  Get out your fliers, remeber who your friends are who
spin, and lets go...

Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi




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im not sure if you still workingonthis. this would be a god thing for
hyperreal.(a list for the country by state, like grid.)
 but it also sounds like the punk guide --->BookYourOwnFuckingLife<-- i
know theise rava/punkrockers and ex-punkrockers know what im talking about.

simple


>Subject: Re: DJ LIST
>
>> ok, here's my problem.
>> i remember that dj list thingy that was posted on mw-raves
>> a long time ago.  it was about 6 pages long (probably an
>> over estimation),

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ok. i had writtena long post lastnight buti guess iall of it except athe
first 3lines dissappeared.**shrug** if anyone got it please let me know, i
was mad that it didnt all get there(mwraves).so i hope all this gets there.

alot of it consisted of ideas for the party beyond the space and date
etc.(ie the inside treatment and the things we sould do to make the party
fun.). but i guess we shouldnt put the carrageb4 the horse. the first order
of business is a date and location.

aug 24/25 sounds like a good idea to me. aug 9 is the friday b4 ...some
party in chicago? maybe the chciago ppl could get together and havea little
shingdig house/apt/loft/gettogether in  chciago for netravers coming from
out of town for theparty on sat teh 10th. (this has been doen b4 and was
really cool.  bigups to lucy @ NWU)

location. unfortuanatly there really isnt a ny place that is good for
everyone. i see how madison is too far for ppl in ohio (being a former ohio
resident) but stlouis or lexington is far for me(not haveing a car and
living in chicago).  im tying to speek as unbiesed as possible. right now
madison seem like the best bet to me. im not sure how big the space in
madison (mention b4) is, but that sounds like the best option to me.

steve mention having it in columbus. and i dont want to step on any toes,
wsp sicne i have the most respect for ed luna and the elemental crew. but
if it is in columbus would basicly seem like a elemental party. that isnt
bad, i just feellike the party sould be kinda a collective effort seperate
from any indvidual promaoters. sorta liek the mwravers are the promoters
kinda thing. to make something new and show non net ravers what vibe is and
to bring  back someold skool flava...sorry if im startinganother ego
rant...i try to stop. colubus does seemlike a pretty middle ground place in
the midwest though.  ialso aske ppl to email me so i could make a list of
ppl that want to help out---that was i could pos tit and maybe that would
help show wherealot fo the people resouces are(not that there will prob be
any shortage of ppl to help out.)

i still vote for madison. b/c of what i have herd about the parties there
and the possiblity fo using the freebass soundsystem.

i agree with star that we sould decide if the party is gona be for only
netravers or if we are gona tryt o get other non-net people to come .  also
we sould decide how much to charge if anyand the size.(im not sure how big
the madison space is). i like the $5 idea.  if it is gona be free for
netravers, we could mail tickets to the ppl that wanted them. and then sell
tickets for non net ppl. i like the can idea.

if the party was gona be for alot of non netravers, and we were gona have
non net djs we could make it a benifit, and charge$5 and a couple can goods
or something.

so i think i save my ideas for  the treatment of the sapce for after a date
and city is decided.  but i also want to add too. i really like this idea,
b/c beyond the party i think (sorry to get al mushy) its generated alot of
really good conversation and stopped the picky fighting over whatever. i
hope we keep tringto getthings lie to gether so it wont matter so much
where its at b/c they will be enough parties to  close to ppl in diffrent
areas.   i also am imagining smaller things once school starts again b/c
ppl get busy w/school and money is tighter b.c of school.

PLUR!
simple




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>        Net party:
>
>                Me a promoter, ha ha dont kid yourself ;~) no really, i
>would be willing to help put on something like this...i'm sure me and kent
>(k.c.) could make the arrangements if you guys think madison is an ok
>site...  if it is in madison, i suggest 1 of these two dates:
>        1.  for all those who can't wait
>                July 26- this is a friday, the night before the
>communique/Vanishing Point party, so you         guys could make more of
>your weekend.  i'm absolutely positive this party is gonna go off (both
>of them for that matter)   at least i know i'm gonna go OFF
>        2.  for those with patience
>                September 6- this is the night before Erotishock's UFO 3,
>and again, this party is sure to         make you a believer in the madison
>scene
>
>here's how it could work- i will have tables buy sept.6 definitely, and july
>26 w/ any luck.  mine could be used.  sound system- free bass system or a
>ragtag collection of speakers.  lights-whatever we can get.  i'm sure we
>could get some attractive non intelligent fixtures.  the space has already
>been discussed for madison...
>
>so basically i wanna know what you guys think-  green light or red light.
>it would be good to have this decided soon....
werd! i dont know if i can help (i dont have a car.> but im reallitivly
close(chicago) so let me know if i can help.

simple



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it mgiht be early for this, buti was thinking of names.

what about

Community Communication or
CommunicationCommunity

simple



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Just a quick question...Does anyone else on this list LOVE the punk band
AVAIL also?  Their new cd just came out, and I haven't listened to anything
but this cd since I got it.  Fucking rocks  =)

---Cylert   

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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, simple wrote:

> so does anyone know if this applies to macS? i know there are alto less
> viruses for mac, but there still are some. wondering.
> 
> simple

nope, doesnt work with MacOS, DOS, etc.  just on the many flavas of unix 
or at least on some.  depending on whatever the hell it does (if it does 
anything or if it even exists) :)
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madison, wi
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big thanks to all you kind folks who gave me suggestions on where to live
in columbus!  :):)   i'm moving in this weekend...ended up in a complex in
grandview.

i'm not sure if this has been decided yet, but my vote for the net rave is
in columbus, oh.  i know y'all are going to think the only reason i'm
saying that is because i'll be living there, but in fact, that's not the
reason.

ok, it is.

how about because a giant lighting scaffolding fell on me at sunrise
festival? :(

ummm, ok, can't think of any other reasons....but wherever it is, i'm
looking forward to it.

see ya soon

bringin' east coast flava to columbus,

haha

scott/speedy




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Um ok here is a little update to what is going on:??J|

1) the name badges:  i am going to make a color computer graphic and then have
it printed on heavy set paper.  I will then cut them into the proper size.  I
am also going to be buying those pastic name tage holder things that have pins
on the back so that you can pin them onto your shirt.  This will serve two
purposes.  one you can change clothes all you want and your name badge can come
along, two hopefully it will be waterproof.

Ok i will not be putting your names on your name badges.  I'm going to leave a
blank spot where you can do this.  This is being done for a few purposes too,
one i don't want to discriminate against anyone, just because someone isn't a
net raver dosen't mean that they shouldn't be able to be apart of the fun,
otherwise you would have to take the U our of PLUR.  Now anyone that wants to
share the love and vibe is welcome too.  Second, for some of you that are
artistic, you can put some orginality into your name tag, it will be able to
show a little personality.

anyways thta's what i am doing, i hope no one is too upset

2) about the food sharing stuff:  I still would like to do this even though i
haven't really heard anything from many people about this, so i decided to take
a little initiative.  I went out today while getting some blow pops for Forever
(sorry i only got 5 pounds to pass out) i ordered a 25 pound box of them,  that
means that you all better stop by or i am going to have a lot of blow pops to
lick down myself.  I hope that others will join in a bring along some goodies
to share.

3)about the table:  I have had only one person respond about them so at this
point i am not going to bring them unless i get a lot more responces.  Sorry
but i'm bringing so much stuff already i don't want to bring something that's
not going to be used.

Anyways i'm off, enough babbling, got any question, drop me some e-mail.  I
won't be around this weekend.  Oh i will be decorating my car and shit so you
know where the spot is,  I'll give you more details next week but it
shouldn't be to hard to spot.


-- Love, Peace, and Lollipops

dj joff

e-mail:  joffemat@pilot.msu.edu



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So... we find ourselves up against the dilemma of WHERE? True, the mw is a
big damn place.

The net makes geography irrelevant in communications... I think Star had a
VERY cool idea with making the party multi-site. I know larger events have
done sattelite video feeds, but that's way expensive. On the cheap, would
Realaudio be good enough sound-quality-wise to pipe line out to sound card
to software to 28.8 modem over phoneline and out the other end into a PA?
It would be really really cool and we'd prolly get some interesting press
attention if we wanted it, so any thoughts on how doable this is? I'd love
to have the party here and hopefully get things going around here, but
apparently there's a space semi-lined up in Madison? I'm hesitant to hold
a "midwest" party that far north...

I went out and drove around last night looking for good spaces to throw
parties... I saw a lot of warehouses (empty or not, how could I tell? The
doors were all shut..), a couple bowling alleys, a convention center...
does anybody have any tips on how to approach space owners about
renting/using thier space? As of right now we have 0 capital for this
party so cheap or free is our target price... what's reasonable to offer
for different-size spaces?

Today I plan on finding out what local laws are applicable to throwing
parties around here...

That letter from the old farmer guy who was defending the kids who raved
in his barn (whatta cool guy! I wish he had email...) got me thinking that
there are large barnlike structures around the outskirts of town... I'll
look into this as well.

As far as dates, Star has suggested August 24. This date sounds fine in
terms of other parties that are going on... I propose as alternates, or
in case we can't get our shit together in time, the weekends of Sept. 14
and 21. By that time people will be in school around here, which means we
could advertise to them and indoctrinate a bunch of newschoolers in the
subtle art of Vibe and Dance and Techno... or we could ignore them and
have it a basically netraver-only event. Personally I think it would be
cool to get some local kids there, but I leave that decision up to the
list, because I would much rather have a smaller event that felt like
family than a larger event where us ravahs are outnumbered and people
stare at our phat pants... thoughts?

Also: Christian/Simple (cmatts@arctic.com ?) offered to collect
information about who can do whatm but my mail to him just bounced, so I
don't know what happened there. If it wasn't just something weird and you
all can't get through to him either, please send the message on to me at
gage@hyperreal.com ... we could use a sound system and more DJs or live
PAs (wouldn't that be cool? Acetate? Delta9? Whoever else is on this
list?), graphic artists (are we gonna have flyers? They're fun and help
alert the non-netraver populace, but I don't know if that would be
appropriate for this party, plus they cost money of course.

I strongly second the motion to keep this party under $5 and free if at
all possible.

Speaking of that, and remembering how nice it was to have badges at
Furthur, what about a regular mw-raves badge? Not only does it make it a
lot easier to spot and meet netravers (walk up and read thier handle off
thier badge), but in some areas of our fine country promoters give
discounts or whatever to ravers... I remember seeing badge gifs on
hyperreal's FTP site a year ago when I was scoping out the MW from work
before moving here... 

Another option that sounds cheesy but might be workable and fun would be
to propose the party as a "dance", probably a charity event for Amnesty or
ACLU or The Alexander Shuligin Trust or The Phil Zimmerman Legal Defense
Fund (is this still relevant?) or Hyperreal... charge a small admission
price and get the ballroom or one of the auditoriums on campus... I
haven't looked into it but free security could be part of the package, or
perhaps the U printing facilities... I think I'll look into this anyway,
and perhaps throw something like this later if it doesn't mesh with our
ideas of a netrave... although given that it's in a university building we
could probably get Ethernet with a little work...

And last but not least I would like to publicly do the dance of glee,
because today my friend Tom and I talked to the Beaurocrats and got out of
our dorm housing contracts, and with 15 minutes to spare signed the lease
on our house for next year! You have no idea how happy this makes me. 

Not that that has anything to do with anything, but I'm sharing. :)

.jeff

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Jeffrey D.Gerard     (Jeff Gage)      http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/j-gerard/
mailto:j-gerard@uiuc.edu (personal)              voicephone://217-328-9685
mailto:j-gerard@ncsa.uiuc.edu (business)              pager://217-xxx-xxxx
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 18:06:54 1996
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To: Matthew Carl Joffe <joffemat@pilot.msu.edu>
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Well...I know a few of the DJ's from here in Nashville, so assuming the party
is not TOO terribly far away, I would be willing to rent a van or what not
and drive up with some kickass DJ's as well as a live act that I know 
that is high-quality and would be definitely willing to perform.  If 
turntables are really a problem, I'm sure one of the DJ's would be willing
to bring theirs... 

If you are from Nashville and would like to do a van share type thing 
with me, send me mail!  Also those super luxury buses with TV's and 
showers and beds and stereos and shit are like $400 I think, I know this 
woman whose husband drives one for a living, so if we can get like 10 or 
so Nashvillians in on it we could travel in luxury and shit :)  

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bleachboy  bboy@bbx.ticfin.com  nashville jungalist coalition
the h consortium    don't leave earth without one    PWA/RiSC
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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 19:07:42 1996
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From: brent theisen <brentt@hermine.onlineuw.org>
To: Jeff Gage <j-gerard@uiuc.edu>
cc: Midwest Raves <mw-raves@hyperreal.com>
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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Jeff Gage wrote:

> The net makes geography irrelevant in communications... I think Star had a
> VERY cool idea with making the party multi-site. I know larger events have
> done sattelite video feeds, but that's way expensive. On the cheap, would
> Realaudio be good enough sound-quality-wise to pipe line out to sound card
> to software to 28.8 modem over phoneline and out the other end into a PA?
> It would be really really cool and we'd prolly get some interesting press
> attention if we wanted it, so any thoughts on how doable this is? I'd love
> to have the party here and hopefully get things going around here, but
> apparently there's a space semi-lined up in Madison? I'm hesitant to hold
> a "midwest" party that far north...

as far as real audio goes, i have a T1 connection at my place 'o business 
and i got the newest version of real audio and all the other software 
that makes having a T1 worth it.  real audio is good for some1 listening 
to a net radio station on his lil' pc speakers.  but if you're gonna hook 
up a bunch of 'real' speakers to a pc and try it out i dont think it'll 
be to great.  even when i hook up a little sony boombox up to it and 
listen it still soundz sorta like some1 was spinnin and holding a 
telefone up to the speaker with me on the other side.  although it 
probably wouldn't sound 'up to par' i still say that if you think it's 
worth while to try, than fukin go for it.  the more often we break the 
burden of geography the betta, especially with the net (or isn't that the 
only way to do that?  *) ).

no matter what though, if you're gonna try it i *strongly* recommend 
finding a way to get both ends hooked up to at least a ISDN line cuz the 
times i have heard real audio stuff on 28.8 or less has been really pathetic.

one idea that i have had is that maybe some1 could somehow archive all 
the nites music from a party and then throw it on hyperreal and set up a 
real audio server on hyperreal so that people who r lucky enough to have 
at least 28.8 could listen to a really good party that they missed (if 
some1 wanted to actually do this i would be more than willing to help).  i 
would *love* to hear shit from a party that i missed that every1 said 
was dope even if it didn't sound all to great over the net!!!

> I strongly second the motion to keep this party under $5 and free if at
> all possible.

hell yeah!  my pockets r hurtin

> Speaking of that, and remembering how nice it was to have badges at
> Furthur, what about a regular mw-raves badge? Not only does it make it a
> lot easier to spot and meet netravers (walk up and read thier handle off
> thier badge), but in some areas of our fine country promoters give
> discounts or whatever to ravers... I remember seeing badge gifs on
> hyperreal's FTP site a year ago when I was scoping out the MW from work
> before moving here... 

definite must

> ideas of a netrave... although given that it's in a university building we
> could probably get Ethernet with a little work...

probably have to know some1 who either works for a comp sci dept. or is a 
TA for some computer related dept

> And last but not least I would like to publicly do the dance of glee,
> because today my friend Tom and I talked to the Beaurocrats and got out of
> our dorm housing contracts, and with 15 minutes to spare signed the lease
> on our house for next year! You have no idea how happy this makes me. 

congrats
_____________________________________________________________________________
brent theisen                                             brentt@onlineuw.org
					      http://www.onlineuw.org/~brentt
madison, wi
608.221.4641       		                 there's only 4 years left...


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we set up our real audio server at work last week... it works but the
quality is on par with a telephone at 28.8.  i think we should go for it,
even if we can't get a higher-quality connection to drive remote PA's...
at the very least those of us who get stuck out in BFE can tune in from
the comfort of our rooms! :)

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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Daniel Hull wrote:

> we set up our real audio server at work last week... it works but the
> quality is on par with a telephone at 28.8.  i think we should go for it,
> even if we can't get a higher-quality connection to drive remote PA's...
> at the very least those of us who get stuck out in BFE can tune in from
> the comfort of our rooms! :)

out of curiousity, how much did the server cost?  i dont think they give 
away the server do they?  if some of the head honchos think the archived 
parties idea was decent then maybe we could throw part of the net.rave 
proceeds towards bying the server and whatever else would be needed.  
just an idea
_____________________________________________________________________________
brent theisen                                             brentt@onlineuw.org
					      http://www.onlineuw.org/~brentt
madison, wi
608.221.4641       		                 there's only 4 years left...


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Don't you have to pre-compress realaudio?

earache
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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Professor Earache wrote:

> Don't you have to pre-compress realaudio?

u don't have to but its supposed to sound betta.  they have a decoder you 
can download so that it goes faster.  u gotta have a pc running a 32 bit 
OS though (aka Win95/NT)
_____________________________________________________________________________
brent theisen                                             brentt@onlineuw.org
					      http://www.onlineuw.org/~brentt
madison, wi
608.221.4641       		                 there's only 4 years left...


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Well Well Well...
I noticed that no one ever wears their hair in colors anymore.  The most
dramatic thing anyone dares to do is ---> welloxide.  What ever happened
to all the colors?!  What happened to the neat hair styles???  It seems
like everyone gets their haircut at the mall now.  =(  I miss the crazy
shit.

Next question...What is with all the $$$tommy/polo$$$ gear?  It looks
great on everyone, don't get me wrong.  But there are other ways of
saying,"Hi, I deal drugs."  or "Hi, I don't pay my own rent."
I kinda liked the days when everyone went thrift shopping for weird
retro shit.  Either that, or they'd pull out old soccer jerseys.
Better yet, the people who used to dress up like creatures from another
planet!  Now THERE IS A USE FOR FOAM RUBBER! =)  But now all the cool
kids shop at lazarus in the expensive section.

Am I turning into one of those old twenty something raver farts who
always complains about the old school and how "back in my day it
was different, AND WE LIKED IT!"

ok, I said it...

---Cylert

and btw, Terry Mullan is an awesome dj, and a pretty nice guy.  Anyone
who says otherwise is a snot-nose-puss-head =)

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>Just a quick question...Does anyone else on this list LOVE the punk band
>AVAIL also?  Their new cd just came out, and I haven't listened to anything
>but this cd since I got it.  Fucking rocks  =)
>
>---Cylert

werd!!!!!i cant wait to see them again.

simple




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>Also: Christian/Simple (cmatts@arctic.com ?) offered to collect
>information about who can do whatm but my mail to him just bounced, so I
>don't know what happened there.

**shrug*** i dont know either. i think something might be messed up at my
school's server. b/c i sent a 2-3pg post and only 3lines got there, or at
least came to me after i posted. so ..maybe try again, but what ever we
could just compile  our two list.

oh and the addy is >>>>c.matts@artic.edu<<<<

sorry for any confusion.

christian/simple



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>On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Professor Earache wrote:
>
>> Don't you have to pre-compress realaudio?
>
>u don't have to but its supposed to sound betta.  they have a decoder you
>can download so that it goes faster.  u gotta have a pc running a 32 bit
>OS though (aka Win95/NT)
hahumm..clears throught...or a macintosh.
simple



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FRIDAY JUNE 28 1996

MATRIX

*A VERY UNDERGROUND EVENT*

W/DJ'S:
GREEN
THE UNIBOMBER
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THURSDAY JULY 4 1996
*IN RACINE,WI*

THE COMING OF A NEW DAY

A FAMILY PRODUCTION
DJ'S ON 2 SOUND SYSTEMS:

FREDDY FRESH ALONG WITH 2 DJ'S FROM GERMANY (ANALOG/MINNEAPOLIS)
NICK NICE (7TH DIMENSION & CARDINAL/MADISON)
KENNY JAMMIN GINO (UNDERGROVE/MILWAUKEE)
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A CHILL MORNING BREAKFAST WITH ERIC

9 PM TILL DAWN

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FRIDAY JULY 5 1996

ELEVATION

PRESENTED BY BOMB SQUAD PRODUCTIONS

FEATURING ALL LOCAL TALENT!

WICKETT (UNDERGROUND PRESERVATION SOCIETY)
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*EVERY SATURDAY*

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UNDERGROUND TECHNO, TRANCE, BREAKS, ETC...
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$3
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AT JAMAICA SUPER IRIE INN
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AGES 21+


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 21:30:30 1996
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simple wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Professor Earache wrote:
> >
> >> Don't you have to pre-compress realaudio?
> >
> >u don't have to but its supposed to sound betta.  they have a decoder you
> >can download so that it goes faster.  u gotta have a pc running a 32 bit
> >OS though (aka Win95/NT)
> hahumm..clears throught...or a macintosh.
> simple

yup. we did the last beatbox transmission remotely, from the 
other side of town just to test it out, and used a powermac, 
28.8modems and the realaudio live encoder. LOTS of packet loss 
through a dial-up PPP acct.(we used a MSU edu dial-up) unless 
you direct dial back to the realaudio server. even then you dont 
get true 28.8 encoding unless you use 33.6 modems, need some 
leeway i guess...

justin

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:26:34 -0500
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ok, some thinking this afternoon and the fact that i just spent an hour
going over email made me decide to put down some solid words.

i am going to make every effort to have *a* party the friday night before
UFO 3 here in madison.

if UFO 3 does end up being on Sept. 7, then this party will be on Sept. 6.
however i'm not gonna declare that as the date until i actually see some
nice pretty flyers from Erotishock that say UFO on them. sometimes parties
get postponed more than once, which is understandable.

whether this party will be a *net* party or just a party for anyone depends
on all of you. if there are enough netfolks willing to come we can make this
a party in which you'll look around and know that everyone you see is one of
those elusive netravers that are always so hard to find at other parties. if
not, no problem this can just be a little pre-party for UFO open to anyone.

now, believe it or not i really don't care if we have a netparty in madison
or not. having this party before UFO is to me a way of giving people a
reason to come from afar to madison for a weekend, rather than just one
night. hopefully it'll be easier to convince friends from afar to come here,
meet some netravers, and then go the one of the biggest and best parties in
madison. 

a reason for having this party or any netparty in september is that a party
during the school year would have a better turnout, since many netravers
aren't hooked up when they're at home for the summer.

as for having a party in columbus or champaign or wherever, there is no rule
saying we can't have more than one netraver party. :) i've heard great
things about columbus and i'd love to come visit. however, i *would* like it
if the party were on the friday night preceding some big party that i'm
gonna look at the flyer for and say "damn i'd love to go this." i have a
general rule about going to parties: if i'm gonna spend more time getting to
and from the party than i will at the party itself, it's not really worth.
i'd rather not drive to ohio for just one night.

any help in making this thing go off here in madison would be appreciated.
more details on plans for the party itself in the near future. 

-kc




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 This idea is rolling & should go off.   If in Il, preferably Chitown,
willing contributors here for sound & a possible live pa... any way decision
needs to be made on WHERE & then we can take it from there for people in that
area to get their shit movin' so this can go off...  let's not let a great
idea go to waste now, cyberkiddies....
over & out _-=Jp=-_

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>Just a quick question...Does anyone else on this list LOVE the punk band
>AVAIL also?  Their new cd just came out, and I haven't listened to anything
>but this cd since I got it.  Fucking rocks  =)
>
>---Cylert

*raises hand*

i used to have an avail quote in my sig, silly.  avail rawks.  i have to
miss their columbus performance cuz it is during family affair :(  too bad,
they are the most incredible thing to witness live...hmph.  well i've seen
em 3 times anyway...the new avail record was near the top of the most
played list on the way to furthur and some of the way back too :)

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Thu Jun 27 21:51:04 1996
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From: johnston.151@osu.edu (michael mccusty)
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>Well Well Well...
>I noticed that no one ever wears their hair in colors anymore.

some do...but it sucks when hair color runs all over yer new shirt :P hair
color is too much of a pain, it gets on your pillows and all your clothes,
etc *shrug*

>Next question...What is with all the $$$tommy/polo$$$ gear?  It looks
>great on everyone, don't get me wrong.  But there are other ways of
>saying,"Hi, I deal drugs."  or "Hi, I don't pay my own rent."

hee hee.  well...it looks good, that's why.  *shrug*  tho i personally
don't like tommy stuff...but do love the polo (cept polo sport...i like the
stuff but have a BIG PROBLEM with the american flags...my friend has a polo
sport viser [visor?] that she took the flag off of and sewed back on upside
down ;))...anotha thing is polo shirts, i've noticed, hold up better than
t-shirts (well DUH), and do not stretch all out from sweating and look
shitty at the end of the party.

>I kinda liked the days when everyone went thrift shopping for weird
>retro shit.

well, i did, then...but if the fashion did not change, it would get boring.
next year will be something different.

>Am I turning into one of those old twenty something raver farts who
>always complains about the old school and how "back in my day it
>was different, AND WE LIKED IT!"

*shrug* don't sweat it d00d

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michael
allroy

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Madtown is the shit-no doubt.  It has the best vibe, the best music, and the
best partys.  In short, Madtown is groove capital of the midwest.  But what
of the happy kidz that live in the south (KY, Tn, etc.) who also have a
tight scene.  I wouldnt wish that drive on anyone (mebbe for IO3)  So whats
the netraver to do?  Well, mebbe we should think of having a series of
partys like Netrave north (Madison), netrave east (Columbus) netrave south
(Lexington)  netrave east-east? (are there any ravers in Iowa?)  that way,
we can have the seperate areas of the midwest do their thing.  For the
people who travel, they will get to experiance another areas vibe.  For the
people who dont want to drive all day, you still get to experiance a net
party.  Yeah, I know, it is kinda splitting this family up, but hey, I think
it has to be done.  I for one will not drive more than 4-5 hours, I get way
too poopy after a party ;)  At any rate, we would get to meet the netravers
in our given area.  Friends will be made, and it is so much fun to know
someone to party with in a different city.  This rambling is the product of
a tired, overworked, under used brain.  tell me what yall think.  It may be
this sounds good just to me, I dunno.(enough)<-----------------|-| | ( ) |\|


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From: johnston.151@osu.edu (michael mccusty)
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>it mgiht be early for this, buti was thinking of names.
>
>what about
>
>Community Communication or
>CommunicationCommunity
>
>simple

um, i forget who posted it (star?) but i think MEGALITH is seriously a
great idea for the name...kind of an inside joke for those of us on the
list...

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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i like the idea of moving it around...it's like a cellular appoach.  

my candidates:

netrave east: columbus
netrave north: madison
netrave west: columbia mo
netrave south: louisville or lexington
netrave central: champaign

something like that...

name the events similarly based on region, and off we go.  sure, the 
unity wont be there, but i know it'll be a lot easier to manage.  and 
also, almost everyone would be able to make it to two of them without 
too much trouble.  hell if it turns out like above, i could go to 
three.

i already have an almost free space, access to sound, tables, and am willing 
to do this any time after september...say, mid-october?

(off we go?)
++ 
e d

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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, simple wrote:

> >On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Professor Earache wrote:
> >
> >> Don't you have to pre-compress realaudio?
> >
> >u don't have to but its supposed to sound betta.  they have a decoder you
> >can download so that it goes faster.  u gotta have a pc running a 32 bit
> >OS though (aka Win95/NT)
> hahumm..clears throught...or a macintosh.
> simple
nahh, they were talking about real computers not the fisher price mac
thingys which are kinda cool if you are computer illiterate or can't find
anything better.  Macs and chickens are lot alike.  Even when their heads
have been cut off the still flop around and make some noise.



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ok.....for those of us that are unaware of the inside joke.....(cope with me)
megalith.....?????


On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, michael mccusty wrote:

> >it mgiht be early for this, buti was thinking of names.
> >
> >what about
> >
> >Community Communication or
> >CommunicationCommunity
> >
> >simple
> 
> um, i forget who posted it (star?) but i think MEGALITH is seriously a
> great idea for the name...kind of an inside joke for those of us on the
> list...
> 
> bring back checkerboard sleeves,
> michael
> allroy
> 
> http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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> 
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On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, eluna wrote:

> i like the idea of moving it around...it's like a cellular appoach.  
> 
> my candidates:
> 
> netrave south: louisville or lexington
 
Frenche and I would have offered our warehouse as a space for free in
louisville but unfortunately it is no longer with us.  We can use my store
if the party stays small ~50 people or so.  Otherwise, I'm sure frenche
and I can help out especially after mid-sept.

tim
evolution



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sucks

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

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well maybe. do you thing ppl might think that werd about teh joke might
have gottena round and that ppl might think that it is a joke?

simple

ps those names i posted are kinda mud no that i look at them.

>>it mgiht be early for this, buti was thinking of names.
>>
>>what about
>>
>>Community Communication or
>>CommunicationCommunity
>>
>>simple
>
>um, i forget who posted it (star?) but i think MEGALITH is seriously a
>great idea for the name...kind of an inside joke for those of us on the
>list...
>
>bring back checkerboard sleeves,
>michael
>allroy
>
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i like that idea too, it would simplifyt he name giving for the parties. or
what about manke the nickname of the state the party is in part of it (to
try to kee it from being do cliche about the net), ie ohio is the buckeye
state so  what ever, wel i cant htink of a name for aht but what ever

simple


>i like the idea of moving it around...it's like a cellular appoach.
>
>my candidates:
>
>netrave east: columbus
>netrave north: madison
>netrave west: columbia mo
>netrave south: louisville or lexington
>netrave central: champaign
>
>something like that...
>
>name the events similarly based on region, and off we go.  sure, the
>unity wont be there, but i know it'll be a lot easier to manage.  and
>also, almost everyone would be able to make it to two of them without
>too much trouble.  hell if it turns out like above, i could go to
>three.
>
>i already have an almost free space, access to sound, tables, and am willing
>to do this any time after september...say, mid-october?
>
>(off we go?)
>++
>e d



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no, no, no the whole point of having one of these net ravah 
pahties is to finally meet all these virtual friends u've 
been talking thru via cyberspace finally! to see what they
really look like (hmm could this be bad?). i mean i see all
these people post on here or have talked w/ people thru posts,
e-mail, or vrave but i still have no clue what many of the 
people on here are like in real life. virtual link-ups are
fine & dandy but they will never be as good as the real thing.
thus the einstein quote...humanity must always come before
technology. 

i think a good example is when me, jeff/stuff & his crew went
to 241 the Dose two year anniversary party in toronto. it wuz
a virtual link up party w/ toronto, vancouver, LA, & denver.
the huge widescreen showing all the ravahs in all the other
cities wuz real keen but after awhile the novelty wore off &
nobody paid attention to them anymore, cuz it wuzn't the real
thing. however when me & jeff finally got to meet sarahS aka
Roadtrip Girl and Patrick (Phat-O productions) off of ne-raves,
it wuz kewl as shit, hanging out w/ 'em, doing breakfast w/ 'em,
sleeping over @ sarah's pad & having her show us around town,
seeing what they're like in real life...kinda like when ed wuz
doing his spaghetti dinner get togethers at his moms house
(eventho i regretfully missed out on 'em).

plus i know i'm from cleveland & i hardly go out anymore cuz 
everytime i go out it's the same faces doing the same thing.
this is exactly why i luv traveling so much...it's a raver
thing...to travel to far away cities, to check out the peeps
there, explore their city, meet new people, see what the music
is like there, taste a new flavah & reopening yur mind (this
is exactly why yur 1st out of state party will always stay
embedded in yur memories). so when we go to the net raver
party in our respective cities it will be just the same faces
doing the same things all over again, granted there'll be
new faces thru virtual link up, but not everybody will be
able to use it @ the same time. i wanna meet the people i've
been talking to via cyberspace from all those faraway cities
in real life!

ok, so the problem is finding one central location for the
mw-rave community. welp to be totally partial, if we look at
a map & pin point all the mw-rave cities: madison, milwaukee,
chicago, kalamazoo, detroit, toledo, cleveland, youngstown,
akron, columbus, dayton, cincinatti, lexington, louisville,
knoxville, nasville, st.louis, etc. you will find the city
that is smack in the middle of it all is...indianapolis,
indiana.

city         time driving to indy
madison      6 hrs
milwaukee    5 hrs
chicago      3 hrs
detroit      5.5 hrs
cleveland    5.5 hrs
columbus     3 hrs
cincinatti   2 hrs
louisville   2 hrs
nashville    5.5 hrs
st.louis     4.5 hrs

ok, indy people, it's time to speak up, lessee what kinda   
connections y'got as far as cheap spaces & such. as far as
organization: welp since columbus, cincinnati, lexington, 
and louisville are all so close (2-3 hrs away), we could
have ed luna (ele mental), mike brown (illuminators), 
jj (untranslatable), and tim (evolution) do the organizing
...man talk about dream team! and (hopefully) bruce's
maxximum sound! and chip's eyegasmic lights! oooh nelly!
now dats a pahty! mebbe just stevie dreamin' a li'l dream
again!

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		R O T F L M A O

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On 28 Jun 96 at 2:31, eluna wrote:

> i like the idea of moving it around...it's like a cellular appoach.  
> 
> my candidates:
> 
> netrave east: columbus
> netrave north: madison
> netrave west: columbia mo
> netrave south: louisville or lexington
> netrave central: champaign


i've been to all these cities except colombus (well, anickulous land 
doesn't count) and champaign and if that's how it was i'd be at ALL of 
them.

perhaps we could make it a series over the course of five months (one a 
month).

by da net ravers, for da peeps.

yeah yeah yeah!

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                ***TONIGHT***TONIGHT****TONIGHT******TONIGHT


                       The FreeBass Collective presents

                           Summer of Love 1969-1996
                            Friday June 28th, 1996
                             Milwaukee, Wisconsin
                                     FREE!!!

WARNING!!!  This event will be limited capacity......it will be a map point
event but it is still FREE!!!  Call the voicemail the day of the party for
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                                414.256.1350


                            Urban Shamans include:

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           karma one  The FreeBass Collective/Network 10, Milwaukee, WI

    shira khan  a.k.a. mouse  The FreeBass Collective/Phreakzine, Milwaukee, WI

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The FreeBass Collective is going to tear the scene a new asshole this
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about the ravers in iowa    Well of course      i am originally from very
very near iowa (i can see it form my house)  and we luv parties      btw
next party in iowa (that im goin to)   July 26    (no name yet)
hyperactive and the infamous terry mulla/en along with cmc, tony giovanni,
and scottie miller  plus more tba     i will be attending only because it
is an iowa party and i luv iowa   btw if terry is all that he will show it
there   :)        i would be very willing to drive to grinnell?? or iowa
city???? for a party there  but am unable to organize such an event



On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Joseph C. Alfe wrote:

> Madtown is the shit-no doubt.  It has the best vibe, the best music, and the
> best partys.  In short, Madtown is groove capital of the midwest.  But what
> of the happy kidz that live in the south (KY, Tn, etc.) who also have a
> tight scene.  I wouldnt wish that drive on anyone (mebbe for IO3)  So whats
> the netraver to do?  Well, mebbe we should think of having a series of
> partys like Netrave north (Madison), netrave east (Columbus) netrave south
> (Lexington)  netrave east-east? (are there any ravers in Iowa?)  that way,
> we can have the seperate areas of the midwest do their thing.  For the
> people who travel, they will get to experiance another areas vibe.  For the
> people who dont want to drive all day, you still get to experiance a net
> party.  Yeah, I know, it is kinda splitting this family up, but hey, I think
> it has to be done.  I for one will not drive more than 4-5 hours, I get way
> too poopy after a party ;)  At any rate, we would get to meet the netravers
> in our given area.  Friends will be made, and it is so much fun to know
> someone to party with in a different city.  This rambling is the product of
> a tired, overworked, under used brain.  tell me what yall think.  It may be
> this sounds good just to me, I dunno.(enough)<-----------------|-| | ( ) |\|
> 
> 


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page@simon.wustl.edu said:

:Am I turning into one of those old twenty something raver farts who
:always complains about the old school and how "back in my day it
:was different, AND WE LIKED IT!"

20-something?  Hell. some of us are a lot closer to (and a few are
over) 30, whippersnapper. ;)

  -d.w.
   aquinas high class of '85
   phat track of the year -- "Relax" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood...






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Actually, the most prevalent scary security hole
around right now is the automatic execution
of JavaScript applets in Netscape Navigator, and
the similar automatic macro execution function
in Microsoft Word...

I use neither of these products, for these and
other reasons...

  -d.w.

on now: "The Shining" - Mr. Miracle

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:nahh, they were talking about real computers not the fisher price mac

Wow, and I'll bet you guys thought arguments about which
music was the best were pointless...

Take it to comp.sys.*.advocacy and have a friggin' ball.
Please.

  -d.w.
  in grumpy git mode


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YES>......Come to Iowa........the kids here are way into there 
scene....and the party on the 26th should be fun......

On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Davis Daniel J wrote:

> about the ravers in iowa    Well of course      i am originally from very
> very near iowa (i can see it form my house)  and we luv parties      btw
> next party in iowa (that im goin to)   July 26    (no name yet)
> hyperactive and the infamous terry mulla/en along with cmc, tony giovanni,
> and scottie miller  plus more tba     i will be attending only because it
> is an iowa party and i luv iowa   btw if terry is all that he will show it
> there   :)        i would be very willing to drive to grinnell?? or iowa
> city???? for a party there  but am unable to organize such an event
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Joseph C. Alfe wrote:
> 
> > Madtown is the shit-no doubt.  It has the best vibe, the best music, and the
> > best partys.  In short, Madtown is groove capital of the midwest.  But what
> > of the happy kidz that live in the south (KY, Tn, etc.) who also have a
> > tight scene.  I wouldnt wish that drive on anyone (mebbe for IO3)  So whats
> > the netraver to do?  Well, mebbe we should think of having a series of
> > partys like Netrave north (Madison), netrave east (Columbus) netrave south
> > (Lexington)  netrave east-east? (are there any ravers in Iowa?)  that way,
> > we can have the seperate areas of the midwest do their thing.  For the
> > people who travel, they will get to experiance another areas vibe.  For the
> > people who dont want to drive all day, you still get to experiance a net
> > party.  Yeah, I know, it is kinda splitting this family up, but hey, I think
> > it has to be done.  I for one will not drive more than 4-5 hours, I get way
> > too poopy after a party ;)  At any rate, we would get to meet the netravers
> > in our given area.  Friends will be made, and it is so much fun to know
> > someone to party with in a different city.  This rambling is the product of
> > a tired, overworked, under used brain.  tell me what yall think.  It may be
> > this sounds good just to me, I dunno.(enough)<-----------------|-| | ( ) |\|
> > 
> > 
> 

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> 
> out of curiousity, how much did the server cost?  i dont think they give 
> away the server do they?  

RealAudio pricing (includes upgrades and support):

  5 simultaneous streams - $790
 20 simultaneous streams - $2890
100 simultaneous streams - $11,490

My company just dropped the bucks for 100 streams and has given me free 
reign over live audio and video. We've got a T3 and multiple SGI and Sun 
servers...

If the net.party doesn't conflict with another live event, I'm OK with 
netcasting and archiving it...






if some of the head honchos think the archived 
> parties idea was decent then maybe we could throw part of the net.rave 
> proceeds towards bying the server and whatever else would be needed.  
> just an idea
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> brent theisen                                             brentt@onlineuw.org
> 					      http://www.onlineuw.org/~brentt
> madison, wi
> 608.221.4641       		                 there's only 4 years left...
> 
> 

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From: Dan Smith <robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu>
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I resent this because of mailing problems I had. thanks to gage for
posting, however he got it...


> ok, here's my problem.
> i remember that dj list thingy that was posted on mw-raves
> a long time ago.  it was about 6 pages long (probably an
> over estimation), and it just had a huge list of dj names.
> well, a friend of mine doesn't have links to the net.  he's
> a great jungle dj and has played out at a couple o' small
> parties in st. louis.  i was telling him about this list
> the other day, and he wants me to see if i can put his name
> on it.  he just got booked for some party east of here...i
> can't remember the name...haven't seen it posted yet, tho...
> and, anyway, he figures, the more connections, the better.
> so if someone could tell me how to put his name on there,
> i'd greatly appreciate it, as would he :)

Well, for the project I am currently doing, any DJ who lives in the STATE
of MISSOURI (aka misery) who has info to be passed along will be listed on
the site.  Lets say that dj x (this is made up) has his/her name, contact
numbers, style of music he/she spins mailed to me, then dj x gets on the
list, if they are from missouri.  If say superstar dj disaster (a
partially made up dj name) exists, is the best thing ever in your opinion,
yet I dont have the info sent to me, I wont put it up on the mo-raves
page.  Its simple.  What I get that is current is what I will put up on
the page.  Its nothing more than an info base for people, interested in
the regionalistic genre of mo-raves, interested in the Djs from missouri
who spin within the genre.

Now the idea of a missouri list also must include those who live near
missori.  Say Ajia DJs and wants her name on the mo-rave list, but she
actually lives right over the border in Illinois. Hey, its just as good.
But if DJ Sneak (chicago) wants on the listing, then its not the same
thing, and therefor wont make the list.  Same thing goes for people who
live just on the Kansas side of KC.  I think you all understand the point
now.
The DJ list, the promoter list, the events list are all for things in
Missouri, or right on the borders... follow the same specifications from
above for these lists.

By the way, I do appreciate all the info which has been and will be given
to me for this project.
So, send it along.  Get out your fliers, remeber who your friends are who
spin, and lets go...


Luscious Daniel Smack
robi@tiger.coe.missouri.edu
http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~robi


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On Thu, 27 Jun 1996 page@simon.wustl.edu wrote:

> I noticed that no one ever wears their hair in colors anymore.  The most
> dramatic thing anyone dares to do is ---> welloxide.  What ever happened
> to all the colors?!  What happened to the neat hair styles??? 
> Next question...What is with all the $$$tommy/polo$$$ gear?  It looks
> great on everyone, don't get me wrong.  But there are other ways of
> saying,"Hi, I deal drugs."  or "Hi, I don't pay my own rent."

	Heh...yeah...!  It's funny, but i rememeber years ago when 
"ravers" didn't adhere to any particular fashion code.  No one subscribed 
to any sort of particular look and the whole thing was very diverse and 
individualized.  Now it's like everyone has an *extremely* large pair of 
jeans on indicating their definite raveness.  Now i'm not the type to 
start talking stupid like "Oh...*I* remember waaay back when..." cause 
it's the people who are going to these events *now* that keep them alive, 
and it's the people who *don't* go anymore who don't help perpetuate it.  
It's just ironic funny that a scene that developed mainly to disregard 
social trends and hollow heads has fallen prey somewhat to precisely
those...  

			n  o    a        h
			.. .  .   .    .      .         .




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For those who know my friend Biskit...where did he disappear to?!  He
never answers his voice mail messages.  His pager got shut off.  No one
answers the phone at his house, and there is no machine...It's like he
disappeared.

Allroy, I was hoping you would know, if anyone on this list would know.

---ben / Cylert

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for those that are interested..

there will be a drum & bass sound system brought to you by UP TEMPO DANCE
at moonflower tomorrow from 1PM to 9PM ONLY.

the weather should be really nice so try and make it out
early since you have to be there by 9PM anyways to get into moonflower.

this 8 hour set up will feature 16 of the best midwest drum & bass djs
from chicago as well as st. louis and cincinatti spinning half hour sets.

not sure of the exact lineup but you can give up tempo a ring 
at 847.604.0579.  the main info line for moonflower is 312.604.1676.

cheers
julian
dj casper

p.s. those in chicago remember to tune into the strictly jungle show tonight
from 11pm - 12:30am on wnur 89.3 with djs snuggles, slak, casper, and the danny
darkside.  more info at 312.409.7249.


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Some ideas from Madtown...

MEGALITH
September 6, 1996 
The first in a midwest-wide series of free (w/ badge & canned food) raves
DJs:  Whoever volunteers
Sound:  Freebass, please?  If not, bring yer stuff, and we'll rig something!
Space:  Neighborhood community center, assuming we can book it
Lights:  Whoever volunteers
Netcast:  The guy who was talkin' about a T3 realaudio server sounded mighty 
good... 
Other Ting:  Let's make this one fun!  Bring your bubble paper, silly 
string, mattresses, bouncy balls, koosh balls, slip 'n' slides, and whatever 
else you think would add to the vibe!  We can use whatever we can clean up!  
'Member Bubblicious? (I couldn't make it, but I heard about it...) 

Howz dat sound to everybody? After it goes off, we can have more in 
Columbus, Champaign, etc., maybe culminating in one final, bigger one in Indy.

For those of you who don't get the Megalith reference, here'z a li'l 
explanation.  Some crazy fool posted an e-flier about what seemed like a 
superhuge party to be held at the McCormick Center in Chitown, with Orbital, 
Orb, Hardfloor I think, and every other big name you care to mention doing 
live PAs and DJ sets.  There was widespread confusion before everyone 
realized that it was a joke- and a good one!  So, this would be our own 
version of that legendary, mythical event... not as big names, but probably 
a lot more fun!

Post ideas, volunteering stuff, sound system stuff, lighting, visuals, or 
whatever else you want... let's make this happen!  We need someone to make 
and post a badge; maybe talk to Realaudio and/or hyperreal, or even HotWired 
;)  This could be great, I'm psyched.

Incidentally, the third Star Children party went down last night; it sucked 
at first, (NO lights, amp almost blew out, small crowd) but quickly picked 
up (lights came, sound somehow improved, more ppl showed up) and was as 
great as always after that.   I met Brent Thiesen in real life for the first 
time; cool.  Seeing a fellow netraver just made me more excited about our 
forthcoming parties... 

peace.


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At 02:51 PM 6/28/96 EDT, Julian Carow wrote:
>for those that are interested..
>
>there will be a drum & bass sound system brought to you by UP TEMPO DANCE
>at moonflower tomorrow from 1PM to 9PM ONLY.

*hell* yeah. :) i'm going to this little campout thing and i really wasn't
all too excited about it, but now... :)

anyway, anyone wanna meet up at this? i'm supposed to meet with a couple net
kids coming out from virginia sat. night at 9 pm in front of the tables.
anyone going to the pre-party?

-kc



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hey, I'm new to the group, Gage just hooked me up yesterday w/ the list.

I noticed that as everyone was tossing around ideas for the netrava pahty, they
conveniently left out ALL mention of Indiana, with the exception of a single
wise soul.  Well, it's true that Indy IS in the middle of everyone, and it's 
the closest drive (average) for everyone. 

If it's gonna be in Indy, I'm just an hour away, and completely willing to help
out with it.  Problem is, I have virtually no connections, but I've been
spending the last month trying to build a permentant party house from the
ground up on -zero- budget.  (ask people to work on commisions and shit w/
stairstep rent on the pad.)  If nothing else, I'll donate a shit-ton of the
elbow grease necessary to pull this bad-boy off if it does in fact happen in
Indy.  Also, I myself need to make connections so I can have a few 'netraver'
nights at my place once it's up.  =)

I'll keep an eye out and jump in again if it turns out to be here so I can make
some more friends.  =)


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Some guy talked to me while I was spinning in quad cities.   He said to get
ahold of him and mentioned a club event that I thought I had heard about. 
For some reason I 'm thinking its in Green Bay and it starts with a Z .
??
I could be wrong.
Anybody ?

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From: "The Infamous BooBoo Q. Earp." <LANCELOT@CERES.BSUVC.BSU.EDU>
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Hey... who all's going to the Orbital show next Wed. in Chicago?

It's only $15, and it's late nite.

if enough people are going, we should hook ourselves up w/ badges via the net,
print them out, and wear them to ID each other quick-fast-in-a-hurry.

Peace,
BooBoo Q. Earp

--Boundary (ID lyEjhAfgQ1X8kU6/XsBDdg)--

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Fri Jun 28 14:00:40 1996
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From: Mike Wasisco - Synet <mikew@g30.synet.net>
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Count me in on RealAudio serving and web development. For those of you 
who don't know me:  http://veda.synet.net/mikew

mike





> Netcast:  The guy who was talkin' about a T3 realaudio server sounded mighty 
> good... 

k


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From: AJIA TOWN <atown@siue.edu>
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ok, i've been browsing thru the recent posts on this list and
i've noticed this net party thingy is quite popular.
first of all, where is it gonna be?  tenatively?
second, can i bring my dip?  i make this great dip...cream
cheese and marshmallow creme...you dip fruit in it and, well,
it's goooooooood...:)

answers?  pretty please?

*take to the sky*
blanketgirl

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I'm netcasting Orbital, live July 3rd from Chicago's Metro.

Awaiting confirmation from Astralwerks to netcast the opening act, Space 
Time Continuum.

www.needle-drop.com

More confirmed and unconfirmed RealAudio events coming up.

mike


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>Some ideas from Madtown...
>
>MEGALITH
>September 6, 1996
>The first in a midwest-wide series of free (w/ badge & canned food) raves

ok i would be willing to possibly set up the FreeBass sound system, but i
think the idea of letting only people with mw-raves badges in free is
complete bullshit and very ELITEST......if everyone gets in free thats kewl
or you charge everyone something, either way but PLEASE make it fair to all
RAVERS not just mw ravers on-line cause after all anyone from this area is
an MW-raver whether they are online or not

>DJs:  Whoever volunteers
>Sound:  Freebass, please?  If not, bring yer stuff, and we'll rig something!
>Space:  Neighborhood community center, assuming we can book it
>Lights:  Whoever volunteers
>Netcast:  The guy who was talkin' about a T3 realaudio server sounded mighty
>good...
>Other Ting:  Let's make this one fun!  Bring your bubble paper, silly
>string, mattresses, bouncy balls, koosh balls, slip 'n' slides, and whatever
>else you think would add to the vibe!  We can use whatever we can clean up!
>'Member Bubblicious? (I couldn't make it, but I heard about it...)


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What a great idea!  Indy is centrally located and the last time I was there,
( For Sonic Purity)  I had a blast!  The kidz are real cool and the space
was phat ( Bingo hall)  this is a good thing.  the drive is not too
murderous for most.  So, lets hear from the Indy folks on this
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anyone know what is up with beatbox.com? "Back into the underground" the 
site says. I wrote a piece including them and need to pull it if they 
went offline.

ack!

mike

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Well, tomorrow's the minneapolis party of the century! Well, maybe not,
but it'll be lots of fun.  If anyone's going, hopefully you can find me.
I'll be working there, maybe at the door (I dont know yet) but at any
rate, I am working somewhere at the party and before the party. I'm sure
you've all seen my self-descriptions on here before, so I'm not gonna
describe myself again.  But if youre gonna be there and dont know what I
look like, email me and I'll describe myself for you.  There's a bunch of
people on the list that I haven't met yet, hopefully I'll get a chance to
meet some of you tomorrow night!

Chris E


"Don't drink that coffee- there was a fish in the percolator."


From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Fri Jun 28 23:28:24 1996
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From: fj480@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff S. Stern)
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just thought you all should know next week's TURNED ON is another serving
of juicy deeeeeee-troit!


  featuring  Mike Clark aka  AGENT-X (7th city, detroit)

as well as Mike Filly (c-town)



    info# 216.556.3960          $4  



just like to point out i had the most memorable time i've ever had at TURNED
ON since it started with K. Hand dishing out some nice house..not quite what
i expected, but it seems to me that the dj's are to play a certain format
here as it is meant to be a "House Music" night....i find this rather disturbingbut it is much better than what we had before, which was nothing (aka Trilogy,
a nightclub that many drunk men and women frequent)

special thanks to Kelli who gave me a double pack and signed it even though it
was her last copy and i offered to buy it!  don't miss her at FA2!!!

--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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From: fj480@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff S. Stern)
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hi there :)

i just wanted to share with you all what i've been reading about in the past
couple of days....it seems as though Perry Farrel's own festival (rumored to be
quite different than his last effort with Lollapalooza) has finally surfaced to
be a reality...

starting in mid August, Farrel's own Porno for Pyros will be headlining the
first  Enit Festival...

why am i posting this to mw-raves?  ahh......

also included in the Main Stage Lineup is:  THE ORB     MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO
                                            
                                            LADY MISS KIER   LOVE AND ROCKETS

                                                   BLACK GRAPE

                            and on some dates:  NANCY SINATRA (??)


also planned are other stages with a rotation of DJ's (big names i presume) fromaround the country, or perhaps the world (no names have been mentioned yet).

something else that i think is neat-o is that a communal meal is included with
the price of admission...is this for r-e-a-l?  

     i certainly plan to find out, and i hope you all do too...

Ferrel's web page, with a small amount of info on it is at: http://www.teeth.net

anyway, i just thought that may be of use to some of you..i, for one, am lookingforeward to it...

later...

--jeff/stuff (that guy)

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...just read thru tons more messages about our little netparty...

...I like the series or regional ideas for practicality, but whoever wrote
that nothing's the same as meeting face to face was quite right.

After we've all come together for an event what says we have to stop? It
would be ideal, in my mind, if we threw one big extravaganza event and
threw all of our energies into it instead of dividing them among
parties... after that I see nothing stopping the Madison kids from
throwing an event with netraver support, or the Indy kids, or the
Champaign kid, or anybody else. But I've seen all this energy flying
around, and I'd hate to see our collective energies split four ways if
we're trying to throw a party.

So far I've had no luck finding a space around here... some leads but I've
never approached a space owner before (tips anybody? Courtesty is obvious,
but like what's the best thing to say to appease them? What's important to
ask? If it's a nontradional space, how much do I offer them? (assuming i
have some$))...

A lot of people have appeared and offered different things... how about we
make a list of all the netravers who are involved with the "industry"? To
me that means anybody who's a DJ, PA owner, booth owner, can do graphic
design, can print flyers, can get lighting... etc. When throwing an event
I'd rather have netraver DJs than the most up-and-coming supercool DJs...
the vibe will still be phat, and we'd all be helping each other out.

Come to think of it, wouldn't this info be good to have on the website?

I've talked to DAC Crowell and he's said he'd probably be able to do a
live gig if it were 1) free 2) in town, and 3) there was no beer. So
hopefully even if it isn't The netrave, I'm trying to get my shit together
and throw an event of some size down here... more info as it comes...

:)

.jeff

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Jeffrey D.Gerard     (Jeff Gage)      http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/j-gerard/
mailto:j-gerard@uiuc.edu (personal)              voicephone://217-328-9685
mailto:j-gerard@ncsa.uiuc.edu (business)              pager://217-xxx-xxxx
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How is this for some kind of organizational beginning?

http://www.needle-drop.com/megalith

its a basic page with the beginnings of a "whos-doing-what" list and the 
opportunity to add yourself to it...

:)

-mike

> 
> A lot of people have appeared and offered different things... how about we
> make a list of all the netravers who are involved with the "industry"? To
> me that means anybody who's a DJ, PA owner, booth owner, can do graphic
> design, can print flyers, can get lighting... etc. When throwing an event
> I'd rather have netraver DJs than the most up-and-coming supercool DJs...
> the vibe will still be phat, and we'd all be helping each other out.
> 
> Come to think of it, wouldn't this info be good to have on the website?
> 
> I've talked to DAC Crowell and he's said he'd probably be able to do a
> live gig if it were 1) free 2) in town, and 3) there was no beer. So
> hopefully even if it isn't The netrave, I'm trying to get my shit together
> and throw an event of some size down here... more info as it comes...
> 
> :)
> 
> .jeff
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Jeffrey D.Gerard     (Jeff Gage)      http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/j-gerard/
> mailto:j-gerard@uiuc.edu (personal)              voicephone://217-328-9685
> mailto:j-gerard@ncsa.uiuc.edu (business)              pager://217-xxx-xxxx
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 
> 

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From: cmatts@artic.edu (simple)
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>A lot of people have appeared and offered different things... how about we
>make a list of all the netravers who are involved with the "industry"? To
>me that means anybody who's a DJ, PA owner, booth owner, can do graphic
>design, can print flyers, can get lighting... etc.

i had posted for ppl to send me this info. someone(sorry i forget who)said
that they tried to email me and it bounced back. huh i enver had that
happen b4.i wonder if he is getting any mail for the list. i only got one
person so far. but if anyone wants to be added to this list (to be posted
after compiled) email me at

c.matts@artic.edu

simple



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>How is this for some kind of organizational beginning?
>
>http://www.needle-drop.com/megalith

i checked outthis sight and didnt see anything other thatn the firstpage.
well ok i just checked out http://www.needle-drop.com, but ill check it out
tomarrow.


>
>its a basic page with the beginnings of a "whos-doing-what" list and the
>opportunity to add yourself to it...
>
>:)
>
>-mike



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Hiya!

I'm going to stay in the northern suburbs (Mundelein) of Chicago for 
2 months in summer (18th July - 14th September).  Now what I am 
asking for is if you guys could send me names and addresses of stores 
(no"vinyl only" stores please) and good clubs (including some info on 
what kind of rave they play there) in Chicago and even in the 
northern area, if there should be anything.  Maybe also people from 
Milwaukee could add some stuff, since it is about the same distance 
as to Chicago.

Thanx a lot in advance
Maybe some of us could even meet....

PLUR

Matt
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OK, everybody has been wanting info on UFO 3 in Madison and guess what?
Yep, i got it.   So feast your eyes =)


        SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 1996
MADISON, WISCONSIN

                                        ONCE AGAIN BROUGHT TO YOU BY EROTISHOCK

                                                                            
    UFO (PART 3)

        Line Up:

        ------>  Deep Dish aka Dubfire and Sharam (Washington, DC, first
Midwest appearance!)

        ------>  Carlos-  San Francisco

        ------>  Live PA by Astral Matrix-  San Francisco

        ------>  Hipp-e-  Denver

        ------>  Terry Mullen- Chicago

        ------>  Mindrive-  Madison

        ------>  Peterbilt-  Madison


                        Once again, i shit you not, this IS for real.

        


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The FreeBass Collective would like to thank all those that came to the
kickoff party for The Summer of Love 1969-1996, the party was a tremendous
success with at one point probably around 200 people maybe more (a lot
considering it was held in 2 levels of a house).  This was just the
beginning, look for more FREE Summer of Love parties to follow throughout
the summer and fall, the purpose of these parties is to bring the old
skoolers back to what is was all about in the beginning and to show the new
skoolers that the scene was and still can be a very beautiful thing without
leaving you broke at the end of the night.......a very special thanks to
Kurt Eckes (Jethrox) and Patrick Spencer (Jedidiah) of the Drop Bass
Network for both loaning The FreeBass Collective a set of high packs when
we were in need (as our high packs horns were blown from a party the week
before) and also for mixing some awesome music, thanks also to Dzak of
Toolbox Tunes Records, DJ Kee from Madtown, DJ Karma One of The FreeBass
Collective/Network 10, and last but definently not least the mighty Shira
Kahn (a.k.a. mouse) of Phreakzine for also throwing up the vibe so we could
all become closer to one another through dance.  The cops showed at around
3:45 and said that they would be back in 15 minutes to raid the party so
the majority of the people left, but much to our surprise did not come
back, for those of you that left you missed a couple awesome sets by satan
himself bringing the demons up from below Jethrox, some hard ass well-mixed
and well-liked tracks from DJ Kee, and winding the night down DJ Shira Khan
brought us a little closer with some phat ass ambient jungle.......if you
received one of the flyers for this party look for the front pic (a collage
of pics from Woodstock 1969 and pics from present days raves) on flyers
throughout the summer and you will know that The FreeBass Collective is
still turning the scene out with the most underground old skool shit
around........see you in the future and PEACE


p.s. if anyone knows of any good spaces outdoors or in to have a FREE
Summer of Love party (either free locations or low cost) e-mail me at
blitz@execpc.com

--------------Tear It Down & Let The Truth Begin!---------------------
  The cutting edge is found only in the morphing shadows of the underground
 Where constant imagination osmosis keep it evolving.  The true underground
  never dies it just changes names. Rave is the FUTURE,the future is here,
                          FIND IT AND DONT LET GO!!!

                  ____     __________       FreeBass Collective/
       ____      /   /    /___   __ /_____  Network 10 Productions/
      /   /     /   /     /__/  /_____   /  bLiTz GrafX Studios/
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  /   __    /   /     /  /  /     /  /      Milwaukee, WI, USA, 53211-2042
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/_________/_________/__/__/     /________/  Personal datalink:   414.659.2398

                *****bLiTz's Underground Warehouse*****
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
An online mail order warehouse selling the complete Drop Bass Network line
of records with more labels to be added soon, dj mix tapes, and phat-ass
rave clothing....the Underground Warehouse can be found on the WWW at
http://www.execpc.com/~blitz and click on the Underground Warehouse or for
an e-catalog, e-mail me with the subject "Underground Warehouse Catalog"
---------------------------------------------------------------------------



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Greetings all...

Anyone from Kansas going to the bash in St. Louis next weekend??  I'm in 
Lawrence and I may be able to take another body or two in my car (although, 
admittedly, it's small).  

---brian


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In a message dated 96-06-29 10:31:34 EDT, maegley@students.wisc.edu (marc
egley) writes:

>        SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 1996
>MADISON, WISCONSIN
>
>                                        ONCE AGAIN BROUGHT TO YOU BY
>EROTISHOCK
>
>                                                                            
>    UFO (PART 3)
>
>        Line Up:
>
>        ------>  Deep Dish aka Dubfire and Sharam (Washington, DC, first
>Midwest appearance!)
>
>        ------>  Carlos-  San Francisco
>
>        ------>  Live PA by Astral Matrix-  San Francisco
>
>        ------>  Hipp-e-  Denver
>
>        ------>  Terry Mullen- Chicago
>
>        ------>  Mindrive-  Madison
>
>        ------>  Peterbilt-  Madison
>
>

Hi this is DJ Flex in Upstate NY..... Well I can testify that If you have not
seen or heard Carlos... You've got a very big treat coming your way... He's
the nicest guy and also one good DJ w/ a lot of energy that he passes on to
the crowd.....

Deep Dish are also going to do a hell of a good Job... this sounds like one
great party

Peace

DJ Flex
Upstate NY

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>
>    UFO (PART 3)
>
>        Line Up:

okay, it's missing someone who's first name is "dj" and last name is "dan"
:P :P :P

guess i shouldn't get my hopes up over rumors :(

bring back checkerboard sleeves,
michael
allroy

http://www.angelfire.com/free/mmccusty.html
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This is kind of a follow-up to the conversation regarding raver fashion, but
regarding an actual discrimination for not being 'fashionable.'

Now... I'm just a local boy from Muncie, IN, but I jet to all kinds of parties
around IN, (Bloomington, Indy, Anderson, etc.).  Merely a year ago, I wasn't a
raver.  Hadn't gone to them, and didn't know what they were REALLY about. 
However, I've been to a-plenty now, and like to think I know the scene.  The
Indiana scene, that is.

Last night I took a newly-arrived female friend (originally from the Chicago
area), to a rave.  At first, she was intimidated by my posse, a group of people
who come to raves w/ me every week.  (I pick where we drive to, and whoever
wants to come comes.)  The reason?  We're not your typical ravers.

One of my friends rigged himself up some old-school Information Society looking
gear.  I thought it was right on.  I myself don't wear the baggy pants and all
that (in my opinion) lame shit.  I coulda been on that route years ago, but
chose to get my own look.  My thing grabbing mildly retro shit from the
20-or-so parent's closets.  Eighty's pins of Debbie Gibson and Michael
Jackson.  Etc.. 

Anyway, this lady friend of mine was telling me basically not to go to a
chicago party unless I became 'more of a raver.'  Asking what the hell she was
talking about, she replied that unless you're wearing the baggy jeans and one
of the right types of shirts, (wallet chain optional,) they'll give you bad
looks and it's harder to make friends.  

All I can keep thinking is - "are these 'cool' big-city people really this
lame?"  And what about just flat out other states.  Around here, everyone (for
the most part) dressed the same and dances the same, and (at least I _THINK_) I
don't get put down by people.  In fact, I even get some smiles and nods and
conversations.  I'm pretty sensitive to knowing what people think, but that
doesn't mean by any degree that I'm going to change myself to attend some
lamers' party in a big city.  

So basically, my question to you guys is:  Is this true?  Should I even waste
my time if everyone is that close-minded and just flat out LAME?I would
seriously appreciate some feedback on this one, because I'm pretty trepidacious
at this point about taking a long drive to get to a party of jock-cheerleader
equivillants.

This has been The Infamous BooBoo Q. Earp.
Sorry to be so pissed.

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Hey....what is rave all about?????

Individuality is one thing I guess.  I'm in Europe, things might be 
different here but still, nobody at a rave would look at someone else 
and would say "What the fuck is that dude doing here? Doesn't look 
like a raver!"  
My question: What does a raver look like??  I dress in black...all 
black with maybe some neon stuff on my shirt or so....I really don't 
care what others say or think.  In the beginning I was looking at 
others and thought that is what a raver looks like.  Now after about 
a year of raving I see the same people over and over and half of them 
are dressing in "normal" every day clothes.  Who cares?!?
I think if there are some people who look strange at you and let you 
know to dress differently.....then it is them who are at the wrong 
place!  You are right that you are pissed...I would be too.  I'll 
take my black stuff to the US in August and I'll see what the people 
over there think about it.  
That is one reason why I started wearing sunglasses at raves. I go 
there mainly for the music...I managed to dance for 7 hours straight 
(without drugs) without realizing who was around me. I go there, the 
music gets me, I put my sunglasses down and start raving. I don't 
need to be "in" or "cool" or whatever. I need good music and 
everything that comes along is a nice extra.
Maybe we can meet in Chicago once in summer (18th July - 14th 
September) and be both "outsiders" and still be ravers!! And everyone 
else who thinks so come on and join us.  

What's next??? A dress code at certain clubs?? Geez...

PLUR

Matt
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        Hey kids, i'm ecstatically happy, because you know what i found at
7th Dimension today?  I got a copy of Hardfloor's 1993 TB Resuscitation!!
=)  This is out of print, and i've seen it being sold in the neighborhood of
$50 on dj vinyl exchanges on the net...and i got it for $14....i guess Nick
found a distributor that had a couple copies just sittin around, and  i got
one!  If you don't know, this record is a classic, with some of the most
definitive 303 work i have ever heard.  until now i thought i would only get
to hear it on CD, but now i've got it on yellow vinyl!! yippie skippie!!
and then this older guy who's a mobile dj gave me some good tips and then a
couple records for free!!  see the wonderful things that happen to you when
you go to the seventh dimension?  mad props to mr. nice.

Now i'm gonna plug his store some more:  go to 7th dimension, go to 7th
dimension, go to 7th dimension.....etc.

heheheh =D

And here's something else i want to relate to everybody:  Nick told me Vibe
Alive is throwing a party near madison (they are chicago promoters) with
hardfloor, and carl craig spinning supposedly one of his last dj sets.
sounds cool, right?  BUT, they are throwing it July 27, the same night of
Communique/ Vanishing Point in Madison when they knew damn well this party
was happening this night.  So i'm just gonna urge all madison pple to stay
true to our city and go to Vanishing Point.  Support our own party economy,
not Chicago's.  just say no to outside promoters throwing their gigs in
maddyson, here's hoping their's gets busted while vanishing point goes all
night.  The other party looks way cool and all, but doesn't Vanishing Point
also?  And it's just a party, not like the last time Hardfloor will ever be
out here.  And if you're from another MW city and were planning to come to
Vanishing Point, i urge you to still come to it and support ethical, non
political party promotion.  

and
 
Next weekend if you're not going to the campouts how bout you come to
madison?  there's gonna be a free party all day on July 6 with Huggie,
Grover, and locals like adeptus and D-on.  and then you could check out the
really nice fireworks display, Rythym and Booms (and i know a place where
you could watch it where there won't be 200,000 pple grilling out with their
extended family)  and then go to Brahman that night w/ Huggie, Nick Nice,
Dan EFEX, Audiopimp, Kee, and Adeptus.    if this sounds cool email me priv
cuz we should hook up.  btw, yes, i will be needing a ride to at least the
parties on saturday so puhleez help out a starving, carless raver kid who
doesn't know too many pple ;~).   
 
        well bye bye,   and Remember, STAY TRUE!
                                                                            
                    Peace, Marc


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On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, marc egley wrote:

>         Hey kids, i'm ecstatically happy, because you know what i found at
> 7th Dimension today?  I got a copy of Hardfloor's 1993 TB Resuscitation!!

Um... I'll start by saying... YOU WEASEL!  and I'll end by saying... YOU
WEASEL!

> was happening this night.  So i'm just gonna urge all madison pple to stay
> true to our city and go to Vanishing Point.  Support our own party economy,
> not Chicago's.  just say no to outside promoters throwing their gigs in

Coming from a town where it's not unusual to find 2 parties happening the
same night... "Go where you feel you'll have the best time."  Period.  By
everyone getting up in arms about there being two, it only generates more
"policatal party" bashing.  

Hey, sorry to tell ya but Hardfloor is where I'll be if I go to Madison.
Why?  Because I couldn't afford to miss Hardfloor!

> maddyson, here's hoping their's gets busted while vanishing point goes all
> night.  The other party looks way cool and all, but doesn't Vanishing Point

That's uncool Marc...

PLUR = Peace, Love, Unity, and Respect - it does exist.

Peace...

	Tom


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HI just about to go to get funky....if anyone is doing the same...
say hi to the  freaks iwth the bars in their ears.......say mike....



 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 			    THat Was....:P
		
	   michael l. grimes.......liquid pleasure......liqplesr
		         *all rolled up into one*


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                      fax: 812-336-6987(notify ahead)/home:812-336-6987
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You might want to read this if you want to know how to talk your way
out of a huge speeding ticket and jail time  =)

Anyways, I just went on a road trip to st louis (from dayton) to 
retrieve Mike Brown's car (which broke down out there a few weeks ago).
This post is about thoughts I had on my trip, as well as a few things
concerning other topics recently on mw-raves.
              
Started off the trip arriving at Mike's house.  He wanted to bring his CAT
with him on the trip so that he could leave it with some friends inc
 columbia,
MO for a while.  A cat in the car on a road trip?!  Well, it wasn't so
bad...It made the trip go by, even though it shed like mad...but it cleans
up easially.

I-70 SUCKS!!! Around the indianapolis area, be prepared to get off and
take an alternate route!  Traffic was at a standstill in 2 differnet
areas.  One right before indy, the second right after.  We took highway
40 west.

Dropped mike off at his car once we got close to st louis.  I then proceded
on my own.  Oh shit, I forgot the part in indy where there was a set
of tires rolling down the street on their own!!!  Fucking dangerous, and
crazy!  

Ok, now when I drove into st louis, I saw the arch at night.  God that
thing is beatiful.  If you ever get a chance, check out the arch when
the sun is coming up.  When parties are thrown in the warehouse right
across the river, you can see the arch in the morning...man, what a sight!

Now, my entire 14 hours in st louis were wonderful.  There was a skaters
convention at the skate shop right next to deep grooves, and I got to
see a ton of cool punk skaters with real haircuts!!!  All the st louis
people were cool as hell.  I think you'd have to TRY to have a bad time
in that city (it's a nice place to visit).

Well, on my road trip back earlier today, I went back through indy.  I
was in a 55 zone, but I thought it was 65, I was going 75.  There
was a car which was white, unmarked, no lightbar on top, all tinted
windows, and no police antennas.  Of course it was a hwy patrol officer,
why else would I have just described it!  When you go through indy, look
out for all white cars with tinted windows!  They dont look like regular
cops, but they are!     
	So, this white car gets on my ass, and I'm doing 75 in a 55.  He
pulls me over. FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!  I had absolutely no idea it was a cop!
With my driving records (2 speeding tickets), I could not afford to get
the ticket, so I was going to do my best to weasal my way out of it. 
The officer told me that in indy, if you are doing 20 mph over the speed
limit, YOU GO TO JAIL AND YOUR CAR GETS TOWED!!!!  He said he had to take
me in!  I thought,"Oh shit, oh god, I am fucked, my insurance is skyrocketing,
I have to be at work in 14 hours, and I'm gonna get raped in jail! FUCK!"
	So, I told him I was incredible stressed out, I had to be at work
the next morning, and if I was going to get a speeding ticket, I wouldn't
be able to afford insurance, and I wouldn't be able to drive.  I begged
and begged and m
begged and asked him to please not take me in, or my life
would practically be over...SO GUESS WHAT!  He says,"Well, mr page, I'll
let you off this time, but I'm going to radio ahead, and if anyone else
catches you speeding, you are going to jail."   *PHEW!!!*  So then I
went 65 the entire way home.  Damn the speed limit is slow!

Ok, now here's where this has to do with mw-raves.  I HAD A SHITTY TIME
IN INDY!!! Both the trip out and the trip back, indy was by far the
shitties place I was in.  Now, if I were going to be like so many mw-rave
post lately, I'd say,"Indy sucks, and I'm never going to go back to indy,
at least not for a long time."  Keep in mind, everyone is saying the
same shit about st louis right now (and chicago).   But no, indy could
be really fun if I gave it a chance.  Just like st louis can be a blast
if you go to a good party with a good attitude.  I heard reconstruction
was the bomb from almost everyone I talked to, and all the mw-rave posts      
seemed to think the party stunk.  I was not there, so I can't really have
an opinion.  I can say that the right attitude can make a party incredible.
but you already knew that.

sorry this was so fucking long.  When I start, I don't shut up (becky!)  =)

---Cylert   (did i make any points in thsi post...who cares, I'm tired)

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sat Jun 29 21:38:11 1996
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From: "The Infamous BooBoo Q. Earp." <LANCELOT@CERES.BSUVC.BSU.EDU>
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Hey....

I KNOW there are some of you out there from the Indiana area... or severe
Western Ohio.  I'm working out of Muncie, and I'm trying to put a permenant
club here.  I've had countless real-estate meetings, and it's a pain in the ass 
and all, but it's worth it both for me and the scene.

What I'm looking for are people of differing skills to show me how it's done. 
Quite frankly, I don't know jack shit.  But so far, I've had to learn from teh
ground up small business laws and real-estate practices and all that bullshit,
and I'm actually kinda glad I'm promotionally ignorant, as it allows me to
create a new flava.

Our pad's gonna be called 'The Pipe,' and it's gonna have a heavy techno FEEL,
but the music will vary.  the walls will be decked out in antique computer shit
(modems, smashed monitor parts, an honest-to-god vt101 on a pedistal,
keyboards, DAT drives, co-ax and phone lines running everywhere gratuitously,
etc.).  But, as I said, I have no clue how to get lights, eq., and dj's.  I'm
planning on opening the place for strictly scheduled events until we get the
cash to outfit ourselves, and until then work on commision.  (is this
possible?)

So.... if anyone out there think this sounds cool and wants to help me out, You
would be the muthafuckinshit.  Whether you're in the area or not, any help
would be appreciated and rewarded however I can.  Manpower is not a problem,
money is.  

mail me or post, doesn't matter to me.  Love y'all, PLUR.

(By the way, this is BY FUCKING FAR the coolest list I've been on.  Y'all
REALLY DO rule!!!)

Once again, 
The Infamous BooBoo Q. Earp.

From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 30 09:16:33 1996
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Moonflower got busted.  There's a surprise....a Chicago party busted, never! ;~)
and i heard the promoter (mystic bill)  got to spend a night in jail.  but
that's unconfirmed.

and btw....Rabbit in The Moon, Skylab 2000, DRC, Huggie, James Christian,
Micro, Nigel  Richards, Grover, Speedy, Marius....  all will be in Madison
weekend of Aug. 29-31 for Raveum and Bailey.  =)


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awwwwwwwwww jeeeeeeez......i'm gonna be in chicago on the date for this 
show...where' can ya get tickets i need to make some phone calls :)



                             -kaffeina



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                        On August 29-31, 1996
		in the quaint college town of Madison, WI
				the
                          Tribal Brothers
			      present

			RAVUM AND BAILEYS II

with featured acts
RABBIT IN THE MOON
NIGEL RICHARDS
DRC
GROVER
and
over 50 more 


more to come in the following days




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			       THE LOVE BOAT
		   brought to you by the FreeLove Foundation

Get down under the stars on a 4-hour cruise onto Lake Michigan, from
Chicago's Navy Pier!

Saturday August 3, 1996
on a double-decker yacht with:

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*tickets are available at:   
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or in person from David Steele & Jus' Joe

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Guess what I found yesterday ???  A copy of Newcleus -- Jam On it :)


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At 12:41 PM 6/30/96 -0500, you wrote:

>Guess what I found yesterday ???  A copy of Newcleus -- Jam On it :)

Hehe.. right on!  Now, can you find a copy of Whodini's "Friends"?  

Say, while were on the topic of old school rap, did anyone catch the show on
TV last night with Grandmaster Flash and Furious Five?  Hehe.. man o man
that brough back memories.

Peace...

        Tom
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> >what about
> >
> >Community Communication or
> >CommunicationCommunity
> >
> >simple
>
> um, i forget who posted it (star?) but i think MEGALITH is seriously a
> great idea for the name...kind of an inside joke for those of us on the
> list...
>
 errrrrr.....dont mean to be cold but howabout Delete Key.
Diana

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At 01:01 PM 6/30/96 -0500, you wrote:

>i want 'freaks come out at night' by whodini.ahahah

Man.  I wonder if my sister still has that cassette. ;)

>u wanna know who would be good to book for a rave? newkleus! :>

HAHHA.. man... I wonder what they're doing now!  You'd have to get Marss to
headline with them as well. :)

Peace...
        Tom
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how many ravers does ti take to screw in a light bulb?





Answer:    1 to screw it in and 99 to complain how it used to be.


   I never said I was Seinfeld:)
*loud and clear.*
Diana

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At 02:16 PM 6/30/96 -0400, you wrote:

>how many ravers does ti take to screw in a light bulb?

>Answer:    1 to screw it in and 99 to complain how it used to be.

HAha.. right on. :)  That *is* funny. :)

Peace...

        Tom
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> >Guess what I found yesterday ???  A copy of Newcleus -- Jam On it :)
> 
> Hehe.. right on!  Now, can you find a copy of Whodini's "Friends"?  

no, but i found "haunted house of rock" a while ago...and i've also scored 
"white horse" by laid back, "duck rock" by malcolm mclaren (featuring 
"buffalo gals" of course!), and the ultimate find: "planet rock" for a 
_dollar_ at a flea market!  *ignores jealous glares from fellow mw-ravers*

but the absolute best find re old-skool classics was the re-discovery of 
my 7-inch of "beat box" by art of noise...much harder than the album 
version and no cheesy bassline.  shit, i shoulndta divulged that one, 
shoulda waited and just played it out!  he he

and forget jokes, here's _real_ hoot (sorry to be cold diana ;)...
i used "beat box" for a breakin performance by me and like 3 other cats 
at my 8th-grade talent show in 1984 (gulp).  luna poppin and lockin, 
what a sight!

and hey that reminds me too, do people still have to read the book _1984_?
because we sure did...everyone ought to read that book, especially now.  
i didnt really "get" it until i read it on my own like 3 yrs ago.  wowie.

now searching for a copy of "scorpio,"
or
seconding mike mccusty's call for the return of checkerboard sleeves,
++
e d

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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 11:06:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Doris Woo <wooster@indy.net>
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.com
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to raver fashion?

A (some might call scary?) observation from a party at Ft. Wayne last 
night...

I was stamping people at the door, and let me add that this is a great 
job for people-watching.  Never before have I seen such a mixed bag of 
young'ins (and not) before to a party.  There was a fleet of...yes, Tommy 
Hilfiger disciples with their token dumber-than-advertised girlie by 
their side.  It was funny seeing a whole wall of them on the back of 
the dance floor.

On the other hand, there were also a fair share of women who wore 
eccentril leather/vinyl schtuff in a way that would turn heads.  

Once again, just an observation...

Wooster


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Subject: "Megalith" at Indy

I'm surprised at the lack of enthusiasm for the netraver party to be held 
in Indy.

Geographically speaking, this is probably the most logical idea, as 
Stevie T. has already demonstrated with his mileage table.  I'm a 
resident there, although I don't think extremely highly of the place, 
mostly due to the fact that almost all the parties I've been to there 
have all been in the same spot: Fountain Square (please correct me if I'm 
wrong).  

By contrast, Ft. Wayne, which is only a couple hours northeast, has a 
FREE space that can hold an adequate amount of people.  The dance floor's 
in the basement, the chill room/smart bar is on the ground floor, and the 
DJ has a separate "room" (actually, it's a plastic, meshed fence) all to 
him/herself adjacent to the dancefloor.  The first party at that space 
was held last night, it was cheap-o, and I had an extremely good time, 
probably more so than many Indy parties I've been to of late.

In short: CHOOSE INDIANA! THINK OF THE GAS YOU WOULD SAVE!!!

Cheers!

Wooster  


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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:46:13 -0400
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Subject: st louis - what...

this is my second post for those keeping track.  i need some tips and advice.
 a friend and i are going to revelation, july 5 6 7th.  i was wondering what
i should bring besides the obvious sleeping bag, tent, lotsa water, food.  i
mean i need to know from you guys that have been to a three day rave how much
money i should bring and any other things.  and one other question, this
rave, does anyone know if its gonna be 24/7 or like 8 hours a day for three
days?  and if anyone is going, wouldya like ta meet?

later 

waveshaft

"a raver goes for the scene, not to be seen" -me


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From mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.com  Sun Jun 30 14:18:37 1996
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I'm sure some of you have heard me complaining about how I was getting
disillusioned with the rave scene, especially in my hometown of
minneapolis.  But I realize now that that was just the effect of bad
parties.  Wonderland completely restored my faith in the scene and I had a
completely wonderful time.  This was the first time I ever "worked" at a
rave- I set up some of the bins and went out and bought water when we
needed more.  Also (and this is the coolest, IMHO) I went to the airport
to pick up the headlining DJ, Dylan Drazen.  He's a really nice guy and he
said something really interesting:  as you fly from east to west as the
sun goes down, you're in a perpetual state of dusk- because you're
following the sun.  Anyways, the party was great.  Here's a little
summary:

DJs-  SOmetimes I just lose all sense of the music because of my dancing
or whatever, and so I can't comment on all the DJs I saw.  But the ones I
remember were Dylan Drazen, who spun a very nice 2 1/2 hour set that I
completely loved. And other than that, I only remember Paul. E. Wog, who
is quickly becoming one of my favorite minneapolis DJs.  He picks the
coolest tracks!

Lights- 6 trakspots, strobes, one of those things (i cant remember what
it's called and probably wont do a very good job of describing it) that
has lights going up and down and around (haha ttold you) and some really
cool oil and water projection things. DSL did the lighting, and they
usually do a good job- they sure did at wonderland!

Sound- I dont know much about sound systems, but I helped set this one up
so I can tell you that it was a four corner setup, with 3 bins in each
corner. And one of those speakers that does the midrange and highs.  The
sound was OK, not as good as some I'f heard, but not bad either.

Space- a clean warehouse- not big, but just perfect for a party of this
size.  I'm sure dustin made his money back and also got back some of what
he lost at critical mass as well.  There was a second room, but I didnt
spend much time in it because it was about the size of my room and there
was usually 25 people or so in there.

Vibe- of course it was great!  

So in conclusion just let me say thanks to Dustin for throwing another
great party, and thanks for letting me help out, it really gave me a
feeling of satisfaction, knowing that I had a hand in throwing that party.
Props to my pal clarence for getting ice cream sandwiches for me and some
of my friends.  Also props to all the DJs, especially dylan drazen who was
a really nice guy (he just had his appendix taken out in case you wanted
to know) and props to dustin of course and to my good friends hollie and
rina.

Chris (was this review a little better than my mac street one???) E

"Don't drink that coffee- there was a fish in the percolator."


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>awwwwwwwwww jeeeeeeez......i'm gonna be in chicago on the date for this
>show...where' can ya get tickets i need to make some phone calls :)
>
>
>
>                             -kaffeina

ticketmaster



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>how many ravers does ti take to screw in a light bulb?
>
>
>
>
>
>Answer:    1 to screw it in and 99 to complain how it used to be.
>
>
>   I never said I was Seinfeld:)
>*loud and clear.*
>Diana
and 100 more complaining that its not cool enought to do drugs to.



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this sound good too. i still will need a ride reguardless of the gas. does
anyone know anthing else about this space? andyone in ftwayne that can
organize that party?
simple

>By contrast, Ft. Wayne, which is only a couple hours northeast, has a
>FREE space that can hold an adequate amount of people.  The dance floor's
>in the basement, the chill room/smart bar is on the ground floor, and the
>DJ has a separate "room" (actually, it's a plastic, meshed fence) all to
>him/herself adjacent to the dancefloor.  The first party at that space
>was held last night, it was cheap-o, and I had an extremely good time,
>probably more so than many Indy parties I've been to of late.
>
>In short: CHOOSE INDIANA! THINK OF THE GAS YOU WOULD SAVE!!!
>
>Cheers!
>
>Wooster



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just got back from without a doubt one of the craziest weekends of my life.
and not that *good* crazy, like furthur, but just crazy.

i went to the moonflower preparty friday night. held at route 66, very
chill, not much else to say. from there we went to the campgrounds for
moonflower, which opened at 6 am. one annoying factor throughout the day was
the heat. it was way to hot to sleep, and basically the few people that had
come from the preparty just hung out all day.

when i saw few i do mean few. there weren't hundreds of tents, or even a
hundred. maybe 20 in this huge field. despite not many people showing up, it
was sorta cool because we all just hung out together and i met some very
cool people.

the system was supposed to start at noon and didn't start until 1:30, at
which point some trip hop dj came on. he was good, but people were waiting
for the music so they could dance, and well, trip hop isn't the most
danceable music. this dj ended up spinning for almost 2 hours as well, which
didn't help.

some house came on later, and between that and the small jungle system i was
happy. more people started showing up, but still not as many as expected.

well, i'm now glad that we didn't bring a tent to set up. at about 7:30 this
party was busted hardcore. i mean when this thing happened it was like a
military operation. in fact i do remember seeing some men in military
fatigue (not drop bass members or junglists either :P) and then all the
illinois cops were decked out in their black outfits with bullet proof
vests. there were cop cars scattered about, and the icing on the care, a
fucking helicopter circled 100 feet off the ground with someone telling
everyone to pack up their stuff and leave the area immediately. snagged a
picture of this one. when we finally got in the car and were on our way off
the campgrounds, we saw that there were a couple ambulances and a fire truck
or two by the main entrance.

as for the cops on foot telling everyone to pack up, at first they were
being dicks and telling everyone to get going, but after awhile once people
were pretty much gone, they mellowed out and were actually being sorta nice.
i was helping mike and susan, two vravers from *virginia* (14 hour drive),
pack up their tent, some of the cops asked us where all the beer was, and
whether it was in kegs or what. susan and i told him that there were no
kegs, that people were here for that big tent in the field that was playing
music earlier. they did find some beer bottles. two to be exact. one or two
of them did actually express some sympathy towards mike and susan for having
driven so far, which was a nice surprise.

the party was temporarily moved to juice, and after an hour or so there it
was moved back to route 66. i'm glad vibe alive went to the effort to make
sure that at least some sort of party happened and not just giving up once
the campground was shut down. as marc mentioned in his "fyi" post, mystic
bill was arrested but i'm not sure on what charge. the only reason i heard
as to why the party was shutdown was a breach of contract.

despite all the bad stuff, i still had a decent time. mostly just because i
met some new people and made some new friends. everything else was just a
crazy adventure that we endured together. that said, i doubt you'll find me
at a (big) chicago/illinois party anytime in the near future.

-kc


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>Moonflower got busted.  There's a surprise....a Chicago party busted, never!
>;~)

i woulnd have figured it would get busted b/c i would have guessed they
would have rented a campsight for this ..much like other outdoor2-3day
events. does anyone hae anymore details. im courious how and why it got
busted, esp since it was supostot be near madison and not really in chitown
at all.

simple


>and i heard the promoter (mystic bill)  got to spend a night in jail.  but
>that's unconfirmed.
>
>and btw....Rabbit in The Moon, Skylab 2000, DRC, Huggie, James Christian,
>Micro, Nigel  Richards, Grover, Speedy, Marius....  all will be in Madison
>weekend of Aug. 29-31 for Raveum and Bailey.  =)



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Well I had planned to write a short note when I got home and say

"I think the best way I can show how much I liked this party is to be too
tired from dancing to review it."

but there's more to it. It was a truly wonderful party with a great vibe,
which was probaby due to the fact that the party was celebrating
commitment to love... I don't feel like talking specifics but I heard a
lot of great sets, and when Star spun into the early morning I looked out
and realized that everyone on the floor was a vraver (hey, it's like
vrave, but not V!). That was pretty cool. There were probahly like 15
netravers there and we had a great little netmeet which was ouside so we
could actually talk, so I met a lot of people for the first time in
person, and we played duckduckgoose and had lots of fun... we all plus
like 15 others went to Perkins for breakfast and had loads of fun...
definately one of my favorite parties thusfar. ESPECIALLY since I finally
got to hear "Cowgirl" by Underworld on a big PA... it was fucking great! A
track so nice it even dragged the DJ out of the booth and made him dance!
(Thanks for playing that, Star!).

....but there's more.

RaygunDan and I drove down there together, so we drove back and I got in
my car to continue the drive homeward... not 3 miles outside of town
(Indy), my card decides Now would be a great time to start working.
Fabulous. Like ten minutes after I'd stopped a kop drove by, sees me (or
so I would assume), throws on his lights and brakes... I'm thinking great!
The one time I actually want to see a cop. Well she/he pulls a U and drive
past me the other way and looks at me... I'm sitting in the car with the
hazard lights on and the hood up... it looked like she/he stared at the
sticker on my car door (Alien Workshop), and continued driving. I figured
they were going to turn around again since tehy overshot me the first
time... they never came back. Assholes. So I climb over the fence next to
the highway into someone's backyard and walk up a door asn ask to use thie
phone, and explan the situation.... I guess I forgot about the earcuff on
my ear and the huge pants I was wearing and the huge wallet chain hanging
from them... anyway I think I scared her. Sorry lady. I use her phone
(cordless, she brings it out to the porch rather than dare let me inside)
and discover that there are no repair places open on Sunday in Indy, so I
go back to my car and disover that I've managed to lock the keys inside...
but thanks to lots of time on my hands and a piece of barbwire and my
wallet chain and a stick I got it open again... then wanded off down the
highway in search of a phone. Of course 3 kops drive by, see me walking
illegally and unsafely by the side of the highway... but don't stop for
whatever reason... well to end my ramblings I'm currently in Dan's basment
waiting until tomorrow when I can get a tow... the whole thing just damn
sucked. Quite an unfortunate ending to a great party experience. But, live
and learn, or something like that....

Is anybody else going to the Rainbow Gathering? It looks like I'l be
needing a ride. Same with Obital on Wednesday, although I don't know if I
can afford it with these damn car-related expenses...


but enough ranting. I hope Funky was as much fun as it looked... I also
wanted to be there on Saturday night...

.jeff

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On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, The Infamous BooBoo Q. Earp. wrote:

> This is kind of a follow-up to the conversation regarding raver fashion, but
> regarding an actual discrimination for not being 'fashionable.'
> 
> Anyway, this lady friend of mine was telling me basically not to go to a
> chicago party unless I became 'more of a raver.'  Asking what the hell she was
> talking about, she replied that unless you're wearing the baggy jeans and one
> of the right types of shirts, (wallet chain optional,) they'll give you bad
> looks and it's harder to make friends.  

ah, that is lame. I am sure some people think like that. I dont wear the
baggy pants and shit, i just go in jeans and a t-shirt. i dont get any
nasty looks, but then no one comes up to me out of nowhere to say hello
(which i dont see much). just go in whatever you want, and enjoy yerself.
i go fer the music and dancing, and i can get those no matter what i wear.
if some people are gunna be close-minded, theres nothing we can do to stop
them.


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is there anyway that out of staters could order tix over the phone with
a credit card to ensure a place....since I KNOW htat I most likely
won't be in Chicago until August!

On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Davis Daniel J wrote:

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> 
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> Chicago's Navy Pier!
> 
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> on a double-decker yacht with:
> 
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> JON WILLIAMS
> 
> disco deep house explosion by
> JIMMY CRICKET
> 
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> CHARLES E. LITTLE
> 
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> 
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> 
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		         *all rolled up into one*


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>events. does anyone hae anymore details. im courious how and why it got
>busted, esp since it was supostot be near madison and not really in chitown
>at all.

the campsite was near yorkstown, IL., about 40 minutes southwest of chicago.

-kc



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eluna wrote:

> but the absolute best find re old-skool classics was the re-discovery of
> my 7-inch of "beat box" by art of noise...much harder than the album
> version and no cheesy bassline.  shit, i shoulndta divulged that one,
> shoulda waited and just played it out!  he he

This reminds me, i'm going home to NY this weekend to visit family. I guess I should dig up all my 
old vinyl or what's left of what hasn't been stolen(not the least of which was my white label Strafe 
"Set It Off"...ouch!)
 
> and forget jokes, here's _real_ hoot (sorry to be cold diana ;)...
> i used "beat box" for a breakin performance by me and like 3 other cats
> at my 8th-grade talent show in 1984 (gulp).  luna poppin and lockin,
> what a sight!

How bout the sight of me doin' shoulder only windmills to Davey DMX. Yikes!!!

-- 
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I would like to say thank you to all that attended FOREVER.

It made a wonderful close to a magical day for juliana and myself.

I have been disillusioned about parties for quite some time and the total 
feeling of oneness , the pure vibe, the energy---all that put together 
made for a fabulous party. And the really kewlest thing I can say, is 
that 7/8 of the party was not "cracked" out on something..Drug usage was 
minimal which like i said was really fucking kewl.

Thanks to all that helped make it wonderful for us.

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Yes, I was one of the hundreds of dissapointed, pissed off people who went
to the ill-fated MOONFLOWER debacle this weekend.  we had just gotten there
when we noticed all the cars were headed AWAY from the party.  As I
envisioned, it was busted.  I really dont know why and I dont care anymore.
I heard it was pretty hardcore with SWAT teams, helicopters, etc.  All I
know is, that it was a bad place to set up a rave (YORKVILLE)  typical
Illinois hick town with closed minded, inbred folks.  we pulled into a gas
station to make a phone call when Erika and I went inside to get a pop.
Erika handed the lady behind the counter in a small town a couple of bills
and asked for change for the phone.  The lady whipped a couple of dimes at
her and said "heres your change-now leave"  I was like what the fuck!?  At
that time I heard some other yokel-local say, "whatch that kid (me)  He's
holding his pocket funny, I 'm sure he stole something"  a couple of other
ressesive-trait hicks were snickering and pointing at us and the other
ravers.  As we got a phone call dialed outside, a gruff, mean police woman
stopped us and said "make your purchases, you phone calls, and get out of
here and dont come back or we will arrest you"  Ummm.....ok.  the point is
that all of these people had one thing in common-they were afraid of us.
you could see it in their eyes.  They feared the "strange looking" kids that
invaded their town.  They were afraid that we would bring our "big-city
ills" to their quiet place to live.  They were afraid because we were
different. Thats why the cops overreacted I'm shure ("those kids prolly have
guns and are drunk, etc..") this is , i guess the difference between
illinois and Wisconsin, where folks are a little more open minded.  Further
went off without a hitch, but moonflower never had a chance.  I for one will
never go to another Chicago-sponsered event.  this is just too much, another
in a long series of fucked Chicago efforts.  Shame on Yorkville to the way
they handled shit.  Also, we went to the makeup party at route 66 in Chitown
and my god, another stale party whith stale talent and stale music.  I
actuall saw TRAXX put one rekkid on, then go socialize for a half hour.  No
wonder the music sucked.  Hello, a minimalist house-garbage track needs to
be mixed with something else!  I saw 3 dj's spin and they all sounded the
same.  Its like they took the same party from 1991 and cloned it over and
over.  same shit-different flyer.  IT IS SO FUCKKING STALE!!!!!!  It became
pretty clear to me that Chicago ravers dont go to partys to dance, because
hardly anyone was (I cant blame em) but rather to socialize and comment on
each others clothes.  Mebbe it is because this is all they know, I dunno.
All I know is something needs to change.  Sorry for the long negative post,
but it is what I feel.  I feel sad.  I really feel sorry for the Chicago
kidz.  They have to put up with this bullshit.  And about VIBE-ALIVE trying
to put on a party in Madison, fuck them.  They are whats wrong with Chicago.
Fuck them.  they dont get it.  Its not the location, its the attitude.
Madison is way to cool to let these posers take hold.<-----------(weeping in
disgust of Chicago) |-| | ( ) |\|


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well is didnt go to this party, not like id bein a hurry to go to any
vibealive party. same chicago dj same records=borring!!! chicago promoters
dont give new djs a chance and dont brignin out of town djs enough. iguess
bitching aobut it wont get anyting done, unless they(the promters are on
here.  I

  I saw 3 dj's spin and they all sounded the
>same.

thats chicago house for ya.

 Its like they took the same party from 1991 and cloned it over and
>over.  same shit-different flyer.  IT IS SO FUCKKING STALE!!!!!!

yup its easier to do thte same thing the 2nd time.
oh well i wont repeat what was allready said, but and this might be
relatedto my musical tastes, but dont right off all chciago promoters.
there are new promtoers that need support, b/c they are trignto do
somethign new and the bigbusiness promoters are making it hard for them.
just beware of parties with posters that fold out to be posters! or are too
big to fit in a folder!

ohh well thats my $.02

simple
312resident513native



