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From: gene trix <genetrix@coplex.com>
Subject: Re: TIME TO GET HYPER!
To: mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu
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On Mon, 30 Aug 1993 uunet!komodo.ham.muohio.edu!mjbutler@coplex.coplex.com wrote:

>  No shit!  If you can set it up in Ohio, I WILL be there.. Cleveland is a
> great site.. It is close to NE and not too bad from DC.. If you need any
> support from the Cincinnati area (it's not the crowd here, its the govt.
> and the promoters.) look towards me to help down here.. I am sure you can
> get promotion help from I'm Smart R U and JJ in Lexington.. If thisa
> doesn't go down as a legal rave, lets make it mid-west's best underground
> happening!   If you want my thoughts or ideas just mail me!!!  /\
>                                                                \\uest
ImSmartRU and J^2(I hope jj doesn't mind me speaking for him on this :)
)would be VERY willing to help out with any parties above or below ground.
 I live in Horse countdry in KY. if people are will to travel I can set a
Barn thang Piece o' cake.  Also I have throw two parties entirely by
myself and neither were busted.  I have an upcoming event that will
probably be on Oct 9th (I'm waiting on approval of my space) in murray Ky.
(far western KY, near St. Louis.  BTW e-mail me Asto-boy)  James Johnston
of Chicago's psybersound (if you don't know who he is you don't know what
you are missing), Daisy from Ciny, Dave Hollands from Muncy. IN and myself
will be spinning plus one or two to be added later.  
Well back to the Cleveland event or where ever.  One of the things that
J^2 and I try to do as vendors  is provide as much vibe enhancement as
possible, eg.  I bring along my collection of cyber-zines and all my info
on smart drugs and other stuff to help expose people to all aspects of the
cutting edge culture. We also try to help tie the scene together
especially since we travel so much we are able to relay messages between
promoters and spread the word about which promters are doing their jobs
and those that are screwing up. 
So, count on Our support for any net-rave just keep us informed and we
will pass the word to the people in the scene who aren't on the net.

peace

Tim Ramsey/genetrix
ImSmartRU
genetrix@coplex.com




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Subject:      what's up for this weekend?
To: party connect <mw-raves@engin.umich.edu>
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Hello,
I got a few people together all ready to go on a road trip to Detroit
this weekend so please send me as much info as you caN ABOUT THIS weekends
parties and how good they'll be and if it's worth making the trip.
MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!
                                                Peace, Unity, Respect,
                                                         Steve

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From: Steve young <YOUNGSR@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      party info for this weekend.
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Hello,
I wanted to take a road trip to Michigan this weekend could you send info
on the raves this weekend and how good it should be.  Thanks!

                                                           Peace,
                                                             Steve

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hey, and mw-raves badges can be the rave's "staff" badge.  

or if people want to make a badge for the specific event, like with the name
of the rave/etc on it, then i'll make up some up.  they probably wouldn't
need to be too fancy, just some kind of cardstock or thicker paper that hangs
around a piece of cord.

or if people want to have the mw-raves badge be the "official" pass, and some
people don't have one/don't want to spend $3 on one, then i'll make up just a
cheap/disposable version and send it to people for free :-)

input please
chris

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This weekend...

----------------------------
> Saturday, September 4    TORONTO                     (416) 462 - 7594
> SYROUS
> 
> Saturday Sept. 4                      Toronto
> 
> DJs
> ---
> James St Bass           Dr Trance             Peter the Greek
> John E                  The Stinger           Jungle PHD
> Sean L                  J-Sun                 Sigma-7
> 
> >From London, UK
> Dr No                   Skipp-E               David Crooke
> 
> Tickets are available at:
> 
> X-Static (599-3851)                    B's Wax (504-0613)
> The Bang (408-1972)                    Play de Record (586-0380)
> Traxx (977-4888)                       The Rave (924-6723)
> Word Up Clothing (458-5459)
-----------------------------

	for those who are interested, i was added to the bill (too late for
	the flier) for syrous.  if you are interested in hearing some of the
	latest darkness, then check it out.  during my set, see what i look like
	and feel free to come up and talk to me.  would be nice to meet some
	fellow net ravers...

dieselBoy
---------
contemporal breakbeat collection

From YUSEF%macc.wisc.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  1 19:52:36 1993
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From: JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS <YUSEF@macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: Yusef's intro
To: MW-RAVES@engin.umich.edu
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	Since everyone MUST send an introduction, here is mine:
 
	I am a 24 yr.old male, currently residing in Madison, WI. I grew up in
Milwaukee and decided to come to the Univ.of Wisconsin-Madison to decide where
to transfer. I wanted to study political economy, a program which had been
eliminated at the Univ.of Wis. But then I rekindled my passion for science,
and decided to take advantage of the respected Biochemistry Dept. here. What I
really wanted to do, though, was grow up synthetic elephant tusks in
bioreactors (which will be possible soon- though incredibly slow), sell them
to fools (who now use incredibly sophisticated spectrographic analysis
equip.-my scheme would never have worked) and make $$ for my favorite
causes/projects (as opposed to Ferraris and prostitutes).
 
	Well, after the biotech investment community hit the floor, I got a
whiff of reality and changed my major to physics. This was after I had worked
in the Biochemistry Pilot Plant here (on bioreactors, not mammalian though)
and met Phil, the Pilot Plant MGR. He convinced me to not be so cause-oriented
(as in political), and instead seek and spread understanding. So now, I'm
taking a hiatus to explore the development of a device which may help to
empower people to learn/understand, reshuffle power relations in the graphics
world, and provide $$ for, hopefully, other creative developments. The device
is a display (like a CRT-TV, computer monitor) made from picture elements
which are bendable, scalable, don't emit harmful EM fields, better suited for
digital programming, offer incredible resolution down to naked eye resolving
power, and so on.
 
	I have been a vegetarian for 8 yrs. (since Meat is Murder came out)
and a 99% vegan for 3 years. It's a tradition that includes Ben Franklin,
Einstein... well, you read Astroboy's intro, so you know. I view it as more
symbolic than anything, since synthetic meat (hopefully w/o/ the poison) may
come before we expire. I'm going to the Toronto Veg. Food Fair, BTW,
Sept.11-12.
 
	I'm trying to start a technical techno mailing list, incidentally,
because I feel like raves are on the way out, and, in order to be selective
about the participants of phuture events, one needs to be selective. See
alt.rave for details.
 
	I first got involved with techno in high school, from listening to
Kraftwerk. I bought a Roland Juneau-106 in '85, but not many people were
willing to play in an all-synth unit, so I was in a ska/reggae outfit for 4
yrs. I also went to the occasional (usually gay) club in Mil. for house, but I
was always on the outside looking in. My aunt's boyfriend, a dance instructor,
though white and straight like me, got into the Chicago House scene around
'86-'87, so I heard from him some of the wonderful things that would lead
right into rave. I also heard about the things that destroyed that scene, and
they are the same things that are destroying (have destroyed?) rave: drugs,
commercialism, basically an emphasis on the externals instead of the
internals. A classic house title from those years says it all: A Basement, a
Red Light, and a Feeling. Plus, music I should add. Anyway, what was rave but
the house culture taken from gay, African-Americans by the English, who added
psychedelica and sped up the beats?
 
	I still enjoy some raves, but I'm looking to socialize more with
networked types than streetlife these days. I also want to avoid all raves
which play music w/samples like "Beat that Hoe with a Bat" (vile). When I'm at
a rave I always wear a black t-shirt with the words "Fight for your Right to
Network" in small, white letters on the front, and "Internet Bitnet" in big,
white letters on the back (lest anyone think I mean Prodigy!?). I'm quite
friendly, so do tap on my shoulder if you see me.
"Friendship is the basis of liberation." "Create dangerously."-A.Camus
 
						Yusef@macc.wisc.edu

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From: JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS <YUSEF@macc.wisc.edu>
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	I'm going to Detroit this wknd for Voom, and/or Digital E-logic. Is
anyone else going from this list? Also, would anyone offer me crash space? I'd
appreciate it! Yusef

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From: JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS <YUSEF@macc.wisc.edu>
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From:    WIRCS1::YUSEF        "JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS"  1-SEP-1993 19:42:46.69
To:      IN%"mw-raves@engin.umich.edu",YUSEF
Subject: Yusef's intro
 
	Since everyone MUST send an introduction, here is mine:
 
	I am a 24 yr.old male, currently residing in Madison, WI. I grew up in
Milwaukee and decided to come to the Univ.of Wisconsin-Madison to decide where
to transfer. I wanted to study political economy, a program which had been
eliminated at the Univ.of Wis. But then I rekindled my passion for science,
and decided to take advantage of the respected Biochemistry Dept. here. What I
really wanted to do, though, was grow up synthetic elephant tusks in
bioreactors (which will be possible soon- though incredibly slow), sell them
to fools (who now use incredibly sophisticated spectrographic analysis
equip.-my scheme would never have worked) and make $$ for my favorite
causes/projects (as opposed to Ferraris and prostitutes).
 
	Well, after the biotech investment community hit the floor, I got a
whiff of reality and changed my major to physics. This was after I had worked
in the Biochemistry Pilot Plant here (on bioreactors, not mammalian though)
and met Phil, the Pilot Plant MGR. He convinced me to not be so cause-oriented
(as in political), and instead seek and spread understanding. So now, I'm
taking a hiatus to explore the development of a device which may help to
empower people to learn/understand, reshuffle power relations in the graphics
world, and provide $$ for, hopefully, other creative developments. The device
is a display (like a CRT-TV, computer monitor) made from picture elements
which are bendable, scalable, don't emit harmful EM fields, better suited for
digital programming, offer incredible resolution down to naked eye resolving
power, and so on.
 
	I have been a vegetarian for 8 yrs. (since Meat is Murder came out)
and a 99% vegan for 3 years. It's a tradition that includes Ben Franklin,
Einstein... well, you read Astroboy's intro, so you know. I view it as more
symbolic than anything, since synthetic meat (hopefully w/o/ the poison) may
come before we expire. I'm going to the Toronto Veg. Food Fair, BTW,
Sept.11-12.
 
	I'm trying to start a technical techno mailing list, incidentally,
because I feel like raves are on the way out, and, in order to be selective
about the participants of phuture events, one needs to be selective. See
alt.rave for details.
 
	I first got involved with techno in high school, from listening to
Kraftwerk. I bought a Roland Juneau-106 in '85, but not many people were
willing to play in an all-synth unit, so I was in a ska/reggae outfit for 4
yrs. I also went to the occasional (usually gay) club in Mil. for house, but I
was always on the outside looking in. My aunt's boyfriend, a dance instructor,
though white and straight like me, got into the Chicago House scene around
'86-'87, so I heard from him some of the wonderful things that would lead
right into rave. I also heard about the things that destroyed that scene, and
they are the same things that are destroying (have destroyed?) rave: drugs,
commercialism, basically an emphasis on the externals instead of the
internals. A classic house title from those years says it all: A Basement, a
Red Light, and a Feeling. Plus, music I should add. Anyway, what was rave but
the house culture taken from gay, African-Americans by the English, who added
psychedelica and sped up the beats?
 
	I still enjoy some raves, but I'm looking to socialize more with
networked types than streetlife these days. I also want to avoid all raves
which play music w/samples like "Beat that Hoe with a Bat" (vile). When I'm at
a rave I always wear a black t-shirt with the words "Fight for your Right to
Network" in small, white letters on the front, and "Internet Bitnet" in big,
white letters on the back (lest anyone think I mean Prodigy!?). I'm quite
friendly, so do tap on my shoulder if you see me.
"Friendship is the basis of liberation." "Create dangerously."-A.Camus
 
						Yusef@macc.wisc.edu

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hey . . i just got word last night that starting September 15
Southwest Airlines will be offering round trip tickets from
Columbus to Chicago for the magic price of $35. . . . . . . . 


			kathleen

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>>hey . . i just got word last night that starting September 15
>>Southwest Airlines will be offering round trip tickets from
>>Columbus to Chicago for the magic price of $35. . . . . . . . 
>>
>>
>>			kathleen

I wonder if there are any restrictions on that fare.... Hmmmmm.....

Wally



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From: Chris Hawley <chawley@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Digital E-Logic off, I guess
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I called the Digital E-Logic line at about 1 a.m. last night and the guy who
answered said it's been canceled.

So... can somebody send me some info about VOOM?  Thanks much.

   -- AHAB



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> >>hey . . i just got word last night that starting September 15
> >>Southwest Airlines will be offering round trip tickets from
> >>Columbus to Chicago for the magic price of $35. . . . . . . . 
> >>
> >>
> >>			kathleen
> 
> I wonder if there are any restrictions on that fare.... Hmmmmm.....
> 
> Wally
> 
>
smarmouth- i got the information from the travel agency...the normal
airfare is $80 ... also it is going to be the standard fare for a
while as opposed to a short term special . . it has something to do
with the fact that Southwest has a really low overhead so they can 
afford to do stuff like this- happy? 

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From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie)
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu, pb-cle-raves@telerama.pgh.pa.us
Subject: getHyper!
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ok gang,

here's the scoop...

there has been a pleasantly large number of positive, helpful replies to my
TIME TO GET HYPER! post...

first off, i'd like to thank all those who offered to help...you know who
you are...respect is due.

CHRIS MELLOW WHERE ARE YOU? i tried to reply to your/his mail, but it got
bounced back to me saying valid user, but aol.com is a fictious
address...what up?

GENETIX WILL BE FUNDING THE RAVE...however, your support, input and
encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated...

you can email either john kohlstrand (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu) or
me to talk about the rave and give us suggestions/advice...we are taking
care of most of the details here on this side of the border...we have a
tentative date/name for the rave, but please understand that we dont want
to make that info _too_ public until the flyers come out..however, if youre
going to be helping out, we *might* let you in on it...:)

local people (COLUMBUS, CLEVELAND, PITTSBURGH) if you have info on
best/cheapest way to do sond, fliers, lights, etc...TELL US! we want to
know!

now, a coupl eof q's for you...basically i wanna get a feel for what you
want/like at raves...

1)- LIGHTS...how much? how fancy? lasers? intellabeams? do you think
they're important and add to the "feel" or are they just a waste of budget?

2)- WHAT features do you think are vital? excepting those required by law
(toilets, etc.), what do you like? vendors? smart bar? 1 or 2 main rooms?
chill out? (poking mike brown)...any and all comments greatly welcomed...


what im saying is that we no longer need mwraves to throw this one, but we
would like to throw this one mainly for the midwest and beyond...its your
rave, we got the cash, how do you want it spent? (genetix and its us
partners reserve the right to ignore/turn down and suggestion offered..:)

ok kids...things are going better, and yay! im sooo excited to be back in
school...(NOT!)


peace,
hossam

--
Hossam El-Saie      hae2@po.cwru.edu     Michelson 310B        (216)754-2054
      /\             sphinx: vrave       11896 carlton rd            /\
    /-|-\\                               cleveland, oh 44106       //-|-\
  /______\/	      **--it's all about the vibe...**            \/______\

From tb37+%andrew.cmu.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep  2 16:08:40 1993
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From: Thomas C Butcher <tb37+@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Here's my intro.

I'm a freshman at Carnegie-Mellon University in Pittsburgh.  I moved
here from Houston, TX, where I operated an independent record label. 
The music on the label is quite eclectic, but in the future, the music
will be almost all breakbeat, ambient, and hardcore acid.  No vinyl as
of yet... just cassettes.  Look for something around Christmas in the
way of a demo.

I'm in a techno 'band' called Induction.  We've played Houston clubs and
sold junk in the southwest... my equipment is in Houston, though, so no
music will be coming from me for a while.  Our setup includes a Juno-60,
Juno-106, Emulator II, IKE, ESQ1, JSQ60, Mackie CR-1604, other wierd
devices.

Here at CMU I'm studying electrical and computer engineering, and soon
I'm going to start building my own music devices.

I started listening to Jean-Michel Jarre when Zoolook came out in 1985. 
I got all of his albums and basically lived by them.... later I moved on
to Kraftwerk, Synergy, Tangerine Dream (old stuff), and other electronic
based outfits (you know).  After a while, I began to listen to stuff
like Depeche Mode, but that didn't last very long.  Then, a blinding
white light hit me: breakbeat.

I like breakbeat the most out of all music, but I also have non-techno
tastes like Blur (I have almost everything), Stone Roses, Happy Mondays,
JAMC,  Ride, Revolver, Bjork, and the like.

I can spin, but not all that well- I hope to perfect my DJ skills while
here at cmu by possibly having a break slot on 88.3 WCRT (you might be
able to hear it in October if you're in Allegheny Cty.  Upgrade from
100watts to 1700 watts.... still nothing like Rice radio in houston...
91.7 KTRU, broadcasting at 50kW).

That's it.

Tom (now you know! go wi de flo)

tb37@andrew.cmu.edu

From aragorn%convex.csd.uwm.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep  2 18:05:03 1993
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I guess I should go along with the thread of intros. BTW, sorry about my
absence from the list.  I've been either moving stuff to our new place,
painting or working at school on a computer system for the
visually-impaired.  Anyway...

My name is Steve White, StevenJ from vrave.  I've been doing that rave thang
for just over a year now.  My musical tastes have always been fairly
eclectic, but I hadn't paid much attention to techno stuff 'til I read about
raves on the net last summer.  My first event was Humanity in the Machine
Age here in Milwaukee.  From what I've been told this was about the time
that the cops started to wise to what we were doing.  When I got there,
around 11pm, I couldn't believe what I was seeing.  All these happy,
friendly people dancing together with this very cool music crunching in
around us forcing us into the beat and keeping us together.  I had poetry
spinning through my head like I hadn't in YEARS!  I stayed 'til around 3am
or so, all by myself.  I did bump into a few people who I knew and they were
completely FLOORED that *I* was there.  If you've met me then you know why.
Wow, did I digress. How about a little about myself.  =)

I've spent a couple of years in music school and have been in and out of
various local bands locally since somewhere around 1979.  Lots of styles and
lots of very cool musicians and friends to play with.  I've also been in and
out of school since then, working for a while and then taking classes
again.  Now I'm FINALLY in my last year of undergrad at University of
Wisconsin - Milwaukee studying political science and peace studies.  I'm the
president of Jobs With Peace at UWM and I'm a Senator of the UWM Student
Association.  As of now I'm not really playing in any gigging bands but I
get together with my partner Stefan when I can to just mess around and try
to get our efforts on tape.  My dream would be to be doing sound for the
film company that Melissa would own and just make movies.  But that's
another subject...

After that first event I knew that these things just had to keep happening
because I finally found where I wanted to be... where I could be myself...
no judgment, no prejudice.  I went to a few more events and then I was at
Grave and we all know about that mess.  But even after that I wasn't really
that down on the scene.  I figured that SOMEone would figure out a way to
keep it all alive here in Milwaukee, and Drop Bass Network has successfully
done that ever since.

Lately Drop Bass has run some very impressive events and I've had a ball at
their little basement thingys, also.  As far as the scene in the midwest is
concerned, it needs some work.  The big events around here are out in the
countryside, no more warehouses or factory settings.  It just doesn't work.
BTW, from my experiences around here I'd have to say that it's not the cops,
per se, that you have to worry about.  It's asshole city attorneys and fire
marshals and powerful judges and such who think what we're doing is evil
and the work of satan and the like.  So, don't just get down on cops.  I
happen to know a few and they aren't the folks with the problem with raves.
They're just doing their jobs, ya know?

Oh yea, Grave.  This is where Melissa and I first saw each other.  Love at
first site.  So you can see why we're so happy to be in the scene and meet
people and stuff.  The scene brought us together and it's a big part of our
life.  I think she and I have posted our little love story to the list
enough that I don't have to go into it again.  But if you're interested
we'll set up a Steve&Melissa FAQ and stick it on the rave site out west.

Hopefully some time in the near future I'll get a chance to try my
hand at spinning 'cause I'd love to dj at some parties.

So, what else?  I dunno.  The trip Melissa and I took to Cinci (not Cinnci)
was wonderful.  I loved getting to meet some of you friendly net.raver.folk
and it doesn't matter that Portal was a bust.  I felt a great vibe just
hangin' out with y'all.

Now what needs to be done is to get organized.  Talk with local
authorities.  Make them aware that we are not just a bunch of hippies who
want to subvert the government (although some of us, including myself, do,
but that's talk for alt.politics.anarchy ;-) but we are intelligent,
self-supportive and really do care about our community.  It's not just about
dancing all night.  If they only understood...


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						    aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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>From the cyberdeck of from the flagstones...
[...]
::WHO fucking cares if people dance or not?
::
::"vibe" is bullshit. Go out, have fun, come home. Indulge. 

exactly, but I don't get your comment about the vibe being bullshit ... I
thought that's what raves are all about but maybe we're just seeing an
evolution of a social phenomena ... I dunno ... isn't having fun and
indulging what the vibe is, anyway?


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>From the cyberdeck of Michel Angelo Battaglia...
::
::It may not be about dancing, but it *is* about many different types of
::people coming together and having a good time. And that's just not
::happening. The scene is made up of middle class suburban kids. That's
::who come to raves anymore. Wannabe gangstas smoking blunts and looking
::ruff. Whatever.
::mikebee

Hrmm.  What area of the country are you in, Mike?  The events around here
still draw tons of different folk from various strata of society.  Even the
last Chicago things I went to were a little bit of lots of different types
of people, albeit a lot of posing going on.  But hey, if they're just
posing, just ignore 'em.


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From aragorn%convex.csd.uwm.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep  2 18:27:36 1993
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>From the cyberdeck of technopagan priest...
[...]
::Let's also watch crossposting to all the rave lists.  While dcraves doesn't
::wish to be ultra-authoritarian about postings, it's main reason for being
::is because of the massive amounts of traffic on ne-raves and alt.rave.
::Please keep three-list crosspostings to informational postings about
::events and such.

Agreed.  I know it's always a pain in the ass when people cross-post from
newsgroup to newsgroup like 7 or 8 times.  It's a bore to read the same crap
in *ALL* of the alt.cyberpunk.* groups.

::-Thomas
:: resident technoshaman of dcraves



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Subject: Re: cheap airfare
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>From the cyberdeck of Paul Wehr 1...
::
::I wonder if there are any restrictions on that fare.... Hmmmmm.....

Oh, sure.  If you mention that you're flying to attend a rave then they
quadruple the fare and make you ride on the wing.


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  I was one of the people who started the whole smart drink thing
out here in San Francisco and I have to verify that Mark's
information is essentially correct.The LSS,Omnitrition and "Earthgirl"
products are essentially cheap products that contain little besides
a tiny portion of amino acids and vitamins and lots of sugar..
(I make a product thats different,but thats another story.)
Since you're in a bit of a pinch as far as time is concerned,I'd
just mix some up according to the recipie I sent you..(using powdered
tyrosine rather than phenylalanine and liquid DMAE.) This is what we did
at the first ToonTown...and you could do a lot worse..Use a tart
juice like orange,or my favorite,cran-raspberry to cover up the DMAE taste
and youll be set..Anti-oxidant vitamins like vitamin C can also be a good
idea..I'd stay away from the ephedra (Ma Huang).. Ive seen it make people
paranoid and nervous...  Caffeine (ala "Blast") IMHO... Good Luck!

Chris (of Nutrient Cafe)

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> GENETIX WILL BE FUNDING THE RAVE...however, your support, input and
> encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated...
>

Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of the original post about
doing our own thing???

> you can email either john kohlstrand (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu) or
> me to talk about the rave and give us suggestions/advice...we are taking
> care of most of the details here on this side of the border...we have a
> tentative date/name for the rave, but please understand that we dont want
> to make that info _too_ public until the flyers come out..however, if youre
> going to be helping out, we *might* let you in on it...:)
>                              ^^^^^

this isn't an MWRAVE rave anymore..

> what im saying is that we no longer need mwraves to throw this one, but we
> would like to throw this one mainly for the midwest and beyond...its your
> rave, we got the cash, how do you want it spent? (genetix and its us
> partners reserve the right to ignore/turn down and suggestion offered..:)
>
OK.. This is definately not an MW rave event anymore is it??? I suppose    
they reserve the right to profit also.... I am out in champaign Illinois
and since most of you are out in Ohio, and there seemed to be a big
group of people mainly from the net talking about organizing etc.. and \
now.. you all want to just hand it over to Genetix to promote, organize,
and probably profit from..... I thought it was going to be along the lines 
of a Rave put on by MW-Net_ravers for all midwest ravers.. 
I guess not.. Maybe I have misunderstood the message??? am i wrong>


---Kus
gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu


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   It was only a matter of time.
   Steve Saunders, the hip kid here in Columbus who works at channel 4 
--the guy who apparently gets them to play techno or alternative rock 
in between scenes on certain feature segments-- must've asked them if 
he could do a feature on raves.
  The teasers during the broadcast said raves are "a new fad among
young urban professionals."  In spite of that, the video and music in 
the clips were very good.  
  Steve brought a cameraman to Paris, last month's Industry Productions 
bomb.  They got enough good clips of people dancing and a variety of
sound bytes ("it's the greatest feeling in the world", "it's like the 
clubs of New York") to fill up about 2 minutes of air time in a
surprisingly unbiased montage.  Rather than talk about raves, they just
showed one and let the video speak for itself.  Aside from the erroneous
yuppie reference at the top of the newscast and the cheezy sound bytes
meant to make the strangeness on the screen more digestible for the
mostly conservative viewing audience, the segment didn't do what you'd
expect --it didn't turn into a sensational expose' of "all-night teenage
dance parties where YOUR drug-crazed children dehydrate to the sounds of
bands like Nirvana and Jesus Jones."  
  Thumbs up to Steve for the feature.  Hopefully they won't feel inclined
to air anything about the rave scene in the future now that it's been 
presented fairly objectively as a harmless trend.
  
  On the negative side, Kim Leddy's Meltdown column in Columbus Alive has
again descended into clueless gabble.  But the worst part is the letter to 
the editor in that same issue...  Kim gets blasted in an arguably justified
--but tactless and insensitive-- slamfest authored by DJ Kevy Kev.  The
printed version was apparently a radio edit of the original mix.  I won't
be the one to reproduce either essay here.

  Other news--

  Somehow DJ's Boomer and Kevy Kev got the impression that Michael Pisano
insulted them and their Sound Of The Phuture rave in his posts to MW-Raves,
a fallacy easily checked by diving into the archive.  The only post in
question (yes, I did check the archive) was the one in which Pisano made
fun of the event's location, encouraging attendees to compliment the
bouncers on their muscles.  The message was misinterpreted and blown out
of proportion by the time it got back to Boomer and Kevin, who each had
words with Michael in a confrontational tone.  After being accused of
bringing the scene down with negativity, it became apparent to Michael
that it was likely that the heavy duo hadn't seen the actual post but
rather heard about it from someone else (Rob?).  When Michael innocently
asked what in the world they were talking about, Boomer repeatedly said,
"you know what you wrote."  Despite MP's efforts, and even his apologetic
post to MW-Raves the same day, neither Boomer nor Kevin seemed interested
in doing anything but snubbing and fronting attitude.
  Don't get me wrong -- both guys are great DJ's, Sound Of The Phuture was
a good rave, and they aren't promoting for profit.  Nor do they resort to
the backstabbing tactics of Industry.  On a personal level I can speak for
what I know of Kevin: he is a fun guy to be around.  The whole thing was a
misunderstanding and I hope by this post I am helping to clear things up.
--> Michael Pisano did not intend to discourage anyone from going to Sound 
Of The Phuture, he did not mean to give anyone the impression that his 
pre-after-hours party was going to be superior to SOTP, and he has never
thought of his underground efforts to be competitive in any way with
those of anyone else.  <--
  Last I talked to him, he said he would probably post about it, but it
might be a while because he's getting settled in his new place in
Cleveland.  There.


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Begin forwarded message:

Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1993 12:53:33 -0400 (EDT)
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I called the Digital E-Logic line at about 1 a.m. last night and the guy who
answered said it's been canceled.

So... can somebody send me some info about VOOM?  Thanks much.

   -- AHAB


-----

Yes Its Off --Various reasons - for one I am deathly ill but....umm if you
have any questions call 312-561-9880 (my home ph.) and I'll be happy to chat.

--Kurt

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HEy all!  Here is what I have for the early edition!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>From Yusef::

        I'm going to Detroit this wknd for Voom, and/or Digital E-logic. Is
anyone else going from this list? Also, would anyone offer me crash space? I'd
appreciate it! Yusef

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>From Steve::  (Not sure which one!)

Hello,
I got a few people together all ready to go on a road trip to Detroit
this weekend so please send me as much info as you caN ABOUT THIS weekends
parties and how good they'll be and if it's worth making the trip.
MUCH APPRECIATED!!!!
                                                Peace, Unity, Respect,
                                                         Steve

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>From Me!

I might be going to an event with Deadly Budda and Gunther ???? in Cincy
(at the Warehouse...blah) to see Deadly Budda spin..  Usual Mickey hat..

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's about it..  Send me your info before 4pm on Saturday to make the
last printing....  Send your mail to mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu and
PLEASE put your e-mail address somewhere in the letter!!! Thanx!
                                       /     /\
                                     \/ohnny \\uest
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Question - who is running the calander these days?  I say the old one last  
week and assumed that I was to quick in my volunteering for this post - I am  
still willing to do it - but two calanders is overkill or something.....

would someone let me know please - we need the calander...etc.etc

--Kurt

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On Thu, 2 Sep 1993, Gregory M. Kus wrote:

> > GENETIX WILL BE FUNDING THE RAVE...however, your support, input and >
> encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated... > > > > Doesn't
this sort of defeat the purpose of the original post about > doing our own
thing??? 
I don't think it does. Did you bother to read the rest of the
message your quote was taken out of?  
> > you can email either john
kohlstrand (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu) or > > me to talk about the
rave and give us suggestions/advice...we are taking > > care of most of
the details here on this side of the border...we have a > > tentative
date/name for the rave, but please understand that we dont want > > to
make that info _too_ public until the flyers come out..however, if youre >
> going to be helping out, we *might* let you in on it...:) > > ^^^^^ > >
this isn't an MWRAVE rave anymore.. If you read the whole message Hossam
said something to the effect of "It's your rave, you tell us what is
important to you." > OK.. This is definately not an MW rave event anymore
is it??? I suppose > they reserve the right to profit also.... I am out in
champaign Illinois > and since most of you are out in Ohio, and there
seemed to be a big > group of people mainly from the net talking about
organizing etc.. and \ > now.. you all want to just hand it over to
Genetix to promote, organize, > and probably profit from..... I thought it
was going to be along the lines > of a Rave put on by MW-Net_ravers for
all midwest ravers..  > I guess not.. Maybe I have misunderstood the
message??? am i wrong>
Yes, I've been here before. Ne-Raves was going to do an Ne-raves
rave and awhile back. In fact there was even talk
about a joint Mw-Raves, Ne-Raves, DCraves rave in Pittsburgh. You know
what happened. Nothing, alot of people had good ideas but when it came
time to put a plan into action various problems came up which involved in
most cases, too many cooks in the kitchen.... Believe me this will get
done much faster and be a much better quality event than mw-raves could
put on by itself, if it was put on at all. Hossam and Genetix are doing
you a favor by getting the nastiness of finding a space and paying for the
rave out of the way so mw-raves can planning, the fun part. Sounds like
dream to me. As for the profits, where would the profits go from an
mw-raves rave? Surely they wouldn't be devided up among everyone on
mw-raves. I'd assume Gentix would get the profits from this event, BUT
THAT IS THEIR RIGHT. They're taking the risk to throw it. See if you can
find a bunch of people to fund an mw-raves rave. That's the problem I
think Ne-raves ran into. Community funding doesn't work with planning a
rave. People are high on talk and low on dough. I was going to recommend
long before Hossam informed us of Genetix, that mw-raves look for some
existing (credible) promotion group to find investors for the mw-raves
rave. Otherwise you'll likely get stuck in someone's basement with a
strobe light. In short, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. And
certainly don't punch a gift horse in the mouth.
				     Joe





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its hard to believe you can get all this, and for probably only $3 for a 
5 oz cup!

>   I was one of the people who started the whole smart drink thing
> out here in San Francisco and I have to verify that Mark's
> information is essentially correct.The LSS,Omnitrition and "Earthgirl"
> products are essentially cheap products that contain little besides
> a tiny portion of amino acids and vitamins and lots of sugar..
> (I make a product thats different,but thats another story.)
> Since you're in a bit of a pinch as far as time is concerned,I'd
> just mix some up according to the recipie I sent you..(using powdered
> tyrosine rather than phenylalanine and liquid DMAE.) This is what we did
> at the first ToonTown...and you could do a lot worse..Use a tart
> juice like orange,or my favorite,cran-raspberry to cover up the DMAE taste
> and youll be set..Anti-oxidant vitamins like vitamin C can also be a good
> idea..I'd stay away from the ephedra (Ma Huang).. Ive seen it make people
> paranoid and nervous...  Caffeine (ala "Blast") IMHO... Good Luck!
> 
> Chris (of Nutrient Cafe)

-- 
-jonathan miller-jemiller@symphony.cc.purdue.edu

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Aughhh....
I can't believe I compiled the WHOLE THING.
(I gotta get outa here, I'm alread an hour late...)

Anyway, here it is, a summary of who responded to the INTRO thread.
If you would like to make corrections or additions, mail me at
WEHRP@AA.WL.COM, subject: MW-RAVES Staff CORRECTION.

Hope you find it interesting.  I think this list would be an enlightening
addendum when getting permits and stuff.  (if you think that the
Nuclear-engineers attending this party are dropping acid, then a little dance
party will be the least of your problems....:)

Rave on,
Wally

_______________________________________________________________
                                     |
It's only funny until someone        | Why would Parke-Davis
loses an eye  .)                     | want me to say anything
                                     | on their behalf?   
Paul Wehr:  Wehrp@aa.wl.com          |
Ann Arbor, MI                        |
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Net-name:      Mike Brown
Name:          Mike Brown
Address:       mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    Ohio State University Admissions
               Used record store
Current home:  Columbus?
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       DJ's "Ambient & Trippy


Net-name:      Hossam
Name:          Hossam El-Saie
Address:       hae2@po.cwru.edu
Age:           21
Education:     Case Western Reserve, Cleveland, OH
               4th year, management
Employment:
Current home:  Cleveland?
Pre-Univ home: Egypt
Special:       offers club discounts (Free?!), given
               sufficient notice


Net-name:      (N/S)
Name:          (N/S)
Address:       horvath@cs.purdue.edu
Age:           24
Education:     Purdue University,
               graduate student, Computer sciences
Employment:
Current Home:  Lafayette, IN
Pre-Univ home: South Bend, IN
Special:       Lurker


Net-name:      J. Quest
Name:          Mike J Butler
Address:       mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu
Age:           
Education:     
Employment:              
Current Home:  "Near Cincinnati" (513)-844-6322
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       



Net-name:      marmoset
Name:          Dave Walker
Address:       marmoset@garnet.msen.com
Age:           
Education:     University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
               English
Employment:    Detroit Art Services
               Network Support Specialist
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Ecorse, MI
Special:       



Net-name:      Andrew
Name:          Andrew Bennett
Address:       abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu
Age:           
Education:     Miami University, Oxford OH
Employment:    Cap Gemini America - Consulting
Current Home:  Cincinnati
Pre-Univ home: Cincinnati
Special:       



Net-name:      Wally
Name:          Paul Wehr
Address:       wehrp@aa.wl.com
Age:           25
Education:     University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
               Math education
Employment:    Parke-Davis/Warner-Lambert
               Clinical Applications Programmer
Current Home:  Ann Arbor
Pre-Univ home: Ann Arbor
Special:       Able to provide airplane-pool to MW raves.


Net-name:      SpeedHacker
Name:          Eric Iverson
Address:       eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Age:           
Education:     Wayne State University, Detroit MI
               Art
Employment:    Wayne State University
               Programmer, Graphic design
Current Home:  Detroit
Pre-Univ home: Detroit
Special:       Member of Ex Machina



Net-name:      Tekknodog
Name:          Joshua L. Mayfield
Address:       mayfiej@ucunix.san.uc.edu
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    Musician
Current Home:  Cincinnati, OH
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       member of DST (December's Second Tear)


Net-name:      Robert
Name:          Robert Smith
Address:       rob.smith@jci.com
               lzrjx@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
Age:           25
Education:     
Employment:    Automotive Design
Current Home:  Ann Arbor, MI
Pre-Univ home: Michigan
Special:       DJ booking agency



Net-name:      astroboy
Name:          Andy
Address:       andy@howdy.wustl.edu
Age:           
Education:     Washington University, St. Louis
               Astrophysics
               UNC? North Carolina
               Physics
Employment:    
Current Home:  North Carolina
Pre-Univ home: Cleveland
Special:       Veg-o-matic, Spins techno, house.




Net-name:      
Name:          Michael Dvorkin
Address:       michaeld@comm.mot.com
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  DesPlaines, IL
Pre-Univ home: Russia, England, Chicago
Special:       



Net-name:      Colin
Name:          Colin Evans
Address:       dn279@cleveland.freenet.edu
Age:           18
Education:     Kalamazoo, MI
Employment:    Graphic design
               computer animation
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Lansing, MI
Special:       


Net-name:      Tino
Name:          James Constantino
Address:       constant@ecn.purdue.edu
Age:           23
Education:     Purdue University, Lafayette, IN
               Graduate, Nuclear Engineering
Employment:    "Limbo"
Current Home:  Chicago/Lafayette, IN
Pre-Univ home: St. Louis
Special:       



Net-name:      cmellow
Name:          Chris Mellow
Address:       cmellow@moose.uvm.edu
               cmellow@aol.com
Age:           
Education:     Universiy of Vermont
               2nd year, Philosophy
Employment:    
Current Home:  Vermont?
Pre-Univ home: Detroit area
Special:       



Net-name:      
Name:          Sho Kuwamoto
Address:       sho@physics.purdue.edu
Age:           23
Education:     Purdue University
               Graduate, physics
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Lafayette, IN?
Special:       



Net-name:      dieselBoy
Name:          Damian Higgins
Address:       damian@cislabs.pitt.edu
Age:           
Education:     University of Pittsburgh
               Information Science
Employment:    Pittsburgh computer lab
               Computer consultant
Current Home:  Pittsburgh?
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       DJ's breakbeat, and other techno
               contact: 412-682-0911


Net-name:      acid boy todd p
Name:          Craig Garret Johnson
Address:       poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu
               raveman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Age:           24
Education:     University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
               Computer science
Employment:    Innovative Record Source
Current Home:  Milwaukee Wisconsin
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       DJ's hard-trance/trance-core 414-225-9397



Net-name:      Kus
Name:          Greg Kus
Address:       gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Age:           21
Education:     University of Illinois
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       217-328-9671 or 217-328-6952 or 217-328-6839



Net-name:      BlackCat
               RaveCat
Name:          Kevin M Jones
Address:       kmjone00@ukpr.uky.edu
Age:           24
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  Cincinatti
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       



Net-name:      Kohlstrand
Name:          Kohlstrand
Address:       aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu
Age:           
Education:     Bowling Green State
Employment:    Elyria Newspaper
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Brownstown, MI (down-river Detroit)
Special:       Spins at Oberlin College (216-329-7131)


Net-name:      raver909
Name:          Joe LeSesne
Address:       raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us
Age:           21
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  4014 Stilwell St, Pittsburgh, PA 15214
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       records under 187



Net-name:      Mike Goller
               cygnusx1
Name:          Mike Goller
Address:       mgoller@uceng.uc.edu
Age:           
Education:     4th year? Industrial Engineering
Employment:    
Current Home:  Cincinnati
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       



Net-name:      Sascha
Name:          Sascha Linn
Address:       sal@iti.org
Age:           23
Education:     Mechanical Engineering
               Math/Physics
Employment:    
Current Home:  Ann Arbor MI
Pre-Univ home: Detroit, Ann Arbor MI
Special:       



Net-name:      mike
Name:          Mike
Address:       mikes@eta.rice.edu (may change...)
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  Chicago
Pre-Univ home: Houston
Special:       DJ's breakbeat as 'snugglez'


Net-name:      katwoman, kathleenthemop, kaffeen, kaffeena
Name:          Kathleen Harris
Address:       kharris@antioc.antioch.edu
Age:           26
Education:     
Employment:    Research in artifical blood
Current Home:  Yellow Springs, OH
Pre-Univ home: Suburb of Lansing
Special:       



Net-name:      Alex Sharifi
Name:          Alexeyovich Alidad Sharifi Fardi
Address:       sharifi@emunix.emich.edu
Age:           
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  Ann Arbor?
Pre-Univ home: Baton Rouge, La Jolla, Ann Arbor
Special:       



Net-name:      Jenny Thomas
Name:          Jenny Thomas
Address:       thomas%epidat.decnet@wigate.nic.wisc.edu
Age:           28
Education:     University of Wisconsin - Madison
               zoology
Employment:    Health sciences
               Data management - research study
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       BW photography, film/video



Net-name:      Q
Name:          Matthew S Macqueen
Address:       macqueen@student.msu.edu
Age:           22
Education:     Michigan State University
               4th year - English
Employment:    
Current Home:  East Lansing?
Pre-Univ home: Kalamazoo
Special:       DJ - chill-out


Net-name:      StevenJ
Name:          Steve White
Address:       aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Age:           
Education:     University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
               political science and peace studies
Employment:    Jobs with peace
               President
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       Melissa's SO




From constant%ecn.purdue.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep  3 12:38:02 1993
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Wally sez:
>(if you think that the Nuclear-engineers attending this party are dropping
>acid, then a little dance party will be the least of your problems....:)


Hey now. You could be giving nukes a bad reputation....:)

Tino, cackling and rubbing his hands fiendishly while leaning over his terminal


From aragorn%convex.csd.uwm.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep  3 13:06:18 1993
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Subject: our own thang
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (MidWest rave list)
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I think what people have a problem with is when organizers/promoters `seem'
to be doing things only for the money side of it all.  When things keep
turning out the way they have been, it's hard to see the others' side of it
all.

As far as this event is concerned, maybe the money of profit could be turned
back into more events of the same nature.  I think that would be more at the
heart of what everyone seems so concerned with.  If it's in Cinci I won't be
able to make it, unless that $35 air-fare is true.  Then Melissa and I could
make it down, no problem.


				       o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
								 steve j white
						    aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

From aragorn%convex.csd.uwm.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep  3 13:06:16 1993
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Subject: Re: Smart drinks.. 
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (MidWest rave list)
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>From the cyberdeck of jemiller@sonata.cc.purdue.edu...
[...]
::> Since you're in a bit of a pinch as far as time is concerned,I'd
::> just mix some up according to the recipie I sent you..(using powdered
::> tyrosine rather than phenylalanine and liquid DMAE.) This is what we did
::> at the first ToonTown...and you could do a lot worse..Use a tart
::> juice like orange,or my favorite,cran-raspberry to cover up the DMAE taste
::> and youll be set..Anti-oxidant vitamins like vitamin C can also be a good
::> idea..I'd stay away from the ephedra (Ma Huang).. Ive seen it make people
::> paranoid and nervous...  Caffeine (ala "Blast") IMHO... Good Luck!

Would you be able to post the whole recipe to the list?  I mean, the more
people who know how to mix this stuff the more people can be giving their
services at a rave.

::> Chris (of Nutrient Cafe)
::-jonathan miller-jemiller@symphony.cc.purdue.edu


				       o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
								 steve j white
						    aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

From gmk40719%uxa.cso.uiuc.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep  3 16:27:26 1993
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From: "Gregory M. Kus" <gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Message-Id: <199309032116.AA19123@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: getHyper!
To: raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1993 16:16:49 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu, mw-raves@engin.umich.edu,
        pb-cle-raves@telerama.pgh.pa.us
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> Yes, I've been here before. Ne-Raves was going to do an Ne-raves
> rave and awhile back. In fact there was even talk
> about a joint Mw-Raves, Ne-Raves, DCraves rave in Pittsburgh. You know
> what happened. Nothing, alot of people had good ideas but when it came
> time to put a plan into action various problems came up which involved in
> most cases, too many cooks in the kitchen.... Believe me this will get
> done much faster and be a much better quality event than mw-raves could
> put on by itself, if it was put on at all. Hossam and Genetix are doing
> you a favor by getting the nastiness of finding a space and paying for the
>                           
 Is it all that hard to find a place? 

rave out of the way so mw-raves can planning, the fun part. Sounds like

mw-raves won't really be doing the planning.. we will be telling
genetix a bunch of ideas that they have probably thought of already
along with most other people. Hossam wrote a disclaimer:
Genetix reserves the right to say no to any of the ideas we give them
they also reserve the right to say no to all ideas and do it themselves
which is fine.. but I hope that everyone doesn't get disillusioned
that it's their own party.. It's genetix's party.. They control the
shots.. so call me cynical... It seems like we have all this freedom
but we can't do anything unless Genetix says its ok.. NO I AM NOT
RIPPING ON GENETIX...I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THEIR PARTIES...AND DO NOT
KNOW THEM.. I should probably take their name out of the post cuz
this would apply whether Genetix or Drop Bass or Core Innovations
or any promoter was doing it.. But it doesn't matter at any rate
thats cool.. that they'll pay for it.. cuz you are right unless there is
a group of people set aside to organize it, everyone over a mass distance
connect by phone lines will not get much done.. 

> dream to me. As for the profits, where would the profits go from an
> mw-raves rave? Surely they wouldn't be devided up among everyone on
> mw-raves. I'd assume Gentix would get the profits from this event, BUT
> THAT IS THEIR RIGHT. They're taking the risk to throw it. See if you can
> find a bunch of people to fund an mw-raves rave. That's the problem I
> think Ne-raves ran into. Community funding doesn't work with planning a
> rave. People are high on talk and low on dough. I was going to recommend
> long before Hossam informed us of Genetix, that mw-raves look for some
> existing (credible) promotion group to find investors for the mw-raves
> rave. Otherwise you'll likely get stuck in someone's basement with a
> strobe light. In short, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. And
> certainly don't punch a gift horse in the mouth.
> 				     Joe
> 
> 
> 
>                  -------
		    Kus---

> 


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Subject: chicago
To: mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu (Michael Butler)
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 I'll be in chicago this weekend... I'm not sure where I am going
 but I'll be at something Saturday.. Maybe Core Innovations..
 Friday --- I might hang at home..

 if you live up in chicago and might be somewhere, gimme a call before
 you leave..
 708.969.5683   --- Greg

 Later---Diagonal  is supposed to be having a free event soon???
 any info? 
 peace
 -Kus


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To: lzrjx@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (Technoir Industries)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 93 18:22:33 EDT
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Robert Smith said-
> I blame that more on Kevin's current state of mind (the gig was kinda
> stressful afterSubBase cancelled) than on anything else.

Yeah, we kinda figured that they were stressed about the cancellation and
then about the low turnout.  No hard feelings; just wish it hadn't gotten
blown out of proportion.

Thanks for the post!

Mike J. Brown                        _  ___ ______________Approach and Identify
...............................................................................
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From: alk@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Al Kolman)
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Subject: Anyone from Drop Bass on the list?
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Is there anyone from Drop Bass here?  I'm trying to get some of the production
groups here to get someone else on the net to get things a bit more non-local
(or whatever)..
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Al Kolman
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*&#%

I can't beleive this.  I have just discovered that I have deleted the address
of GLOBAL.  If anyone is checking e-mail before they take-off, please do send
me the address or call me at 453-5501.  I'll be in till abou9:00 and then
I'll take of for Detroit and hoping for a miracle.

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To: alk@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Al Kolman)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 16:44:25 -0500 (CDT)
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>Subject: Anyone from Drop Bass on the list?
>
>Is there anyone from Drop Bass here?  I'm trying to get some of the production
>groups here to get someone else on the net to get things a bit more non-local
>(or whatever)..


No, one from Drop Bass is on the Net. Drop Bass is 2 guys, and i work with
them quite extensivly. If you would like i can forward them messages, or
hook you up with them in otherways.

or maybe i can help, it has been a while since i promoted a party first
hand but have been involved in just about every event here in Milw, and a
helluva lot of them in Chicago.  As part of Full House Productions, myself
and 2 others have thrown 5 events (350 at the first, 1200 at the last),
and never a bust!

acid boy todd p
in real life:   Todd Poepping (just using Craig's account)

poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu


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From: aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu (John Kohlstrand)
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How do I login to v-rave?

thanks.

kohlstrand.

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  ``The music is like Detroit, a complete mistake. It's Kraftwerk and George 
               Clinton stuck in an elevator.''  -- Derrick May

From abennett%phoenix.aps.muohio.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Mon Sep  6 01:29:49 1993
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Subject: Re: help: techno.stanford.edu
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (MW Raves)
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1993 00:42:16 -0400 (EDT)
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> How do I login to v-rave?

On most Unix and VMS machines, and most of the other varities, a simple:

telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283

Will do the job.  On some VMS machines, you may need to telnet ... /port=7283
instead.  Best if you are emulating a vt-100 or such.  Telneting from
IBM mainframes isn't suggested, but I guess it could work.




Andrew
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   I saw George Clinton and the Parliament Funkadelic play last night.

   We truly are the coolest species ever to walk the planet.


   -- AHAB
      chawley@andy.bgsu.edu




From SDONAHOE%charlie.usd.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Mon Sep  6 14:26:55 1993
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From: SEAN <SDONAHOE@charlie.usd.edu>
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Well, maybe not the whole place, just that ridiculous thing they called "Ravin'
Bran" (They even ripped-off the name!) last night.  We (two friends and I)
drove over two hours to this place called the Bellevue Berry Farm, with no less
than 10 cop cars lining the main road just outside the driveway.  We were still
thinking "cool, this thing could be pretty neat in a barn".  As it turned out,
the fee was supposed to be $6.00 apiece, we got shorted out of another $6.00
between the three of us (always count your change kiddies!) which still wasn't
bad. What really bothered me was that when we paid, the chick in the van who
took our money said "it's alright to bring alcohol or smoke onto the property,
but just don't bring it inside"  Uhh, ohhh! Alcohol at a rave? Wot the phuck?

So, we get inside, and its like the Bellevue High School Prom in a Barn. 
Almost everybody dressed in flannel or something, except a few people who
actually looked like ravers (very few).  One fixed pencil-beam red laser with
a couple of make-up mirrors, two color wheels, two strobes that stayed on
constantly, NO moving lasers, NO intellibeams, NO video walls, NO sense of what
a visual experience really means. And there were tooooo many losers blowing
wistles constantly!

	On to the music. Mostly club mixes and extended versions of pop singles
(New Order, etc.) NO breakbeat or hardcore or speed techno. A little trance, a
little tribal, but mostly like being at my local dance bar in Vermillion, SD
(which is basically a techno-bumfuck, egypt).  All in all, the music was way
too mainstream (and slow). Oh, and they had the lousiest excuse for a smart bar
that I have ever seen.  At least they sold bottled water.

	We did force ourselves to have fun, anyway.  We just doubled the beat
to everything and danced our asses off.  I think the glow sticks in our mouths
kinda freaked some people out, but some people actually talked to us.  The ones
that did talk to us all thought it was pretty lame too.  We ended up leaving by
2:00 because it didn't seem like it would get any better.  Ended up playing the
Prodigy, Orbital, and LA Style on the way back just to remember what techno is
supposed to sound like.  I can't believe I've actually gone to better raves in
Sioux Falls, South Dakota!  Oh well, maybe the next event in Omaha will be
better (listening Ed?) like the one that was going to be in the theatre lobby,
that sounded like it would've been a different crowd at least.

L8r,

SH1 is sdonahoe@charlie.usd.edu who will accept flames from anyone who thinks
that this event had some merit as anything other than a local street dance.

---
"brian had tailored his intestinal flora to allow him to remix music
biologically"  --- Jonathan Coleclough on Orbital 2 liner notes


From 00HAMACDONAL%leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep  7 03:51:55 1993
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Subject: Pink's Party - Thur. Sept. 16th  Muncie, IN - BALL STATE
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                   David Hollands and Goque Groove
                           Invite you to 

     PPPP  I  N   N  K  K ' SSS     PPPP   A   RRRR  TTTTT Y   Y   
     P  P  I  NN  N  K K    S       P  P  A A  R  R    T    Y Y
     PPPP  I  N N N  KK     SSS     PPPP AAAAA RRR     T     Y
     P     I  N  NN  K K      S     P    A   A R R     T     Y
     P     I  N   N  K  K   SSS     P    A   A R  R    T     Y

On Thursday, yes Thursday, September 16th `ol Pink will have his day

We'll spend our time together delighting in Chromatic Excursions - 

>From the Vinyl palette of Pink's pals, to the mental mosaics of our

                          own creation.

  Muncie, Indiana        September 16-17      Ball State University

DJ's (Pink's Pals):
	Doc Martin	-Los Angeles	-Intntl Raw Vibe Authority
	Hyperactive	-Chicago	-Psybersounds Hard Acid House
	David Hollands	-Muncie		-Groove 2 Make U Move
	Mr. Linus	-U.K.		-Rare Groove Monger
	Jonathan Keith	-Indianapolis	-The Rotavator Returns
	Flash Gordon	-Cincinnati	-Back From Germany w/ Frankfort Sound

-30K of Surround Sound by "Sound-O-Mighty"
-Computer Generated Visual Projections by "Mighty Pixel"
-Intellabeams and Cyber Lighting from the creators of "Gridlock"/Sight&Sound Inc
-"Free Form" Strobes, Mind Machines, Hallucination Simulators
-Full Smart Bar, Soft Drink Fountain, Orange Juice, Smacck Snacks, Body Painting
-Expanded Art Showcase, Complete Security Provided.

Sponsored and Supported by these Underground Dwellers:
	-Urb Magazine - Los Angeles		-Pervert Clothing
	-J2					-Get Smart: USA
	-ImSmartRU				-Boink?
	-SmilEE					-M&M&M

Ticket Information - $8 Adv/$10 @ Door:
	-Muncie:	Sight & Sound, 900 W. McGalliard, 317.289.8526
	-Indianapolis	Future Shock, 809 Broad Ripple Ave. 317.251.6957
			Digital Waves, SR 135 in Greenwood, 317.889.0191
	-Cincinnati	Avalon, 230 W. McMillan, (Clifton)  513.651.3847
	-Dayton		Stigmata, 519 E. 5th St.   513.222.5800
	-Columbus, OH	World Records, 1980 N. High St.,    614.297.7900

On Sept. 16th, meet at La Bamba Restaraunt, 1609 West University Ave. in

the Ball State University Village, Muncie, Indiana to get a map to the venue.

                    La Bamba is a map point only.
    Muncie is about 40 minutes North of Indianapolis on I-69 (exit 41).
 
	  24 Hr. Information numbers for updates on the Party
		-Groovus Maximus Bassline:	317.281.3000
		-Undergound Pipeline:		317.579.3053
		-SIN Line:			317.895.4546
		-Human Interaction available @  317.288.MARS

             Crazy Props to those who've supported in peace and 
                           Rave 4 the Phuture
                        "Don't Sink, Think Pink"

From SDONAHOE%charlie.usd.edu@azure.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep  7 09:03:29 1993
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From: SEAN <SDONAHOE@charlie.usd.edu>
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Sorry Folx,
	Better clarify a few thingz.  When I wrote the original post, I was
still pretty steamed about the whole thing.  I did not mean to imply that
sounds like the Orb or the Prodigy or Orbital are the only things one should
hear at a rave.  I guess youjust had to be there.  The music selection was not
my cup of tea, nor my friends' either.  In general it was too slow, and too
trancy for my tastes.  It really felt like I was at "Dance Party, USA" or
something (anybody remember that? :O) and it is no exaggeration to say that at
least every third person there was wearing flannel or plaid!  I'm not trying to
say what a raver should look like, really; just be yourself I guess, but I
almost thought that we were at the wrong place at first.  Oh well, sorry if I
raised anyone's hackles over this.  L8r,

SH1


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From: "Brent" <p00331@psilink.com>
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Sorry that this Intro is so late but I have been VERY busy. 

Well, lets see, I am a twenty three year old Raver named Brent.  I live
in Columbus, OH ('Columbus by the sea' for us ex-Floridians who  like to
lie to ourselves.) where I attend DeVry Technical Institute,  work full
time for Sterling Software (The Worlds Largest EDI Supplier)  and
operate my own business (MicroSolved) part time. I am engaged and will
be married on October 30th of this year  (the clock is ticking!).  I 
have been raving about a year now, and enjoy it very much. My hobbies 
include techno, paganism, philosophy, tai-chi, studies of the history 
and legends of the occult, modeming (isn't that going to be an Olympic 
sport someday?), and of course RAVING!!! I am not currently involved in 
any production group, but would not mind making flyers or posters for 
Raves in the central Ohio area.

My company sells and does consulting for pc based compaines and 
individuals. So, if there is anything you need, just give me a call!




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>	We did force ourselves to have fun, anyway.  We just doubled the beat
>to everything and danced our asses off.  I think the glow sticks in our mouths
>kinda freaked some people out, but some people actually talked to us.  The ones
>that did talk to us all thought it was pretty lame too.  We ended up leaving by
>2:00 because it didn't seem like it would get any better.  Ended up playing the
>Prodigy, Orbital, and LA Style on the way back just to remember what techno is
>supposed to sound like.  I can't believe I've actually gone to better raves in
>Sioux Falls, South Dakota!  Oh well, maybe the next event in Omaha will be
>better (listening Ed?) like the one that was going to be in the theatre lobby,
>that sounded like it would've been a different crowd at least.

It's posts like this that make me glad I didn't take that newspaper job in 
Sault Sainte Marie, Michigan last year. SEVEN hours from Detroit, for chris
sake. I really feel for you. :(

>
>L8r,
>
>SH1 is sdonahoe@charlie.usd.edu who will accept flames from anyone who thinks
>that this event had some merit as anything other than a local street dance.
>
>---
>"brian had tailored his intestinal flora to allow him to remix music
>biologically"  --- Jonathan Coleclough on Orbital 2 liner notes
>
>
>

--
       _ __ ___MFA 04661 (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu)___ __ _
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               Clinton stuck in an elevator.''  -- Derrick May

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Subject: Re: Peel Sessions and Bandulu
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i found mine at gramaphone music in chicago.  i would suggest this album to 
anyone who likes ambient trance.

> >> Does anyone know of Bandulu? in particular the Guidance album?  If you can
> >> get it please contact me, I really really want it.
> 
>    Great Album. 
>   
>    Andy

-- 
-jonathan miller-jemiller@symphony.cc.purdue.edu

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From: axc@po.CWRU.Edu (Alan Calvitti)
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I am in very bad need of contacting any and all promoters in the mw area
this means cinci,muncie,indy,chicago,detroit,madison,minnesota. I need to
contact them about an event that is looking to be preety damn  big in
cleveland on dec 18th and and all info can be sent to me at
axc@po.cwru.edu.Or i can be reached by pager at 216-363-4251. Thanks in
advance.

Kevin

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To: p00331@psilink.com (Brent)
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BTW..
in my intro I don't remember if I mentioned it or not..
But me and the people that I live wioth down here have parties in 
our house that we rent...

NO it is not a fraternity... NO>...

But I am the one that designs the flyers for the parties.. using Macintosh
computers ,so far mainly Superpaint ... I have messed around with 
Photoshop but haven't perfected using it yet... Will soon by ouir next
party.. Photoshop seems do be much higher in resolution capabilities.
anyways.. 
We are having a party This friday:


Here are the details:

Dipsomania

at The Posse Pagoda
Friday September 10, ---10 pm---

803 South Second Street
(Between John and Daniels)
in Champaign, Illinois.
Sunil Ahuja will be spinning.
$3 -good sound system--600 watts 
      small? no not for the size of our space..
   -some chill lights.
   Peace


----
Sunil.. good techno DJ.. mostly club techno and some underground stuff...
He collected a lot more underground stuff this summer.. haven't heard 
it yet..
Anyways.. If you're  going to be in Champaign this weekend stop byu
.. Need directions.. e-mail me.. if you're in champaign/campus

It isn't difficult to find..
$

Take it easy -
Kus
gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
voice:  217.328.9671
	Greg Kus


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hi everyone...i'm guessing that lots of people will be back from a netless summer, so i'll do this again...

if anyone wants an offical "mw-raves badge" then send me mail...

they're the coolest things around...
big thumbs up from all the people who already have it (except maybe mary 'cause i forgot to capitalize her first name :P)

so order up...

chris

ps-they're now only $3 :) reduced prices!!!  order 4!!!

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just got back from chicago and it was so quiet that i
thought i would post something

i didn't get to any events so i can't really review 
anything (started out at 950 on sat. meant to move
on but inertia overcame us) anyway on sun. neo's
was having an anniversary thing and were playing 
alot of retro stuff and it was funny/wierd because
i was listening to this music in high school and
now i'm practically at the ae where some of the
people weren't even born when the songs came out.....
also we didn't slam to london calling....why do 
i suddenly feel old?...........

               kathleen
the good news is that i got 5 koko taylor albums and one
lou rawls new at wax trax for twenty dollars.....

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From: dn279@cleveland.freenet.edu (Colin Evans)
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
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	Well, I don't know how many people made it to Global in Detroit
last weekend, but DJ Tim from Paris spun an *incredible* trance set!
	The loacation (The Players Club) was a multi-level rough stone
building, at one time a club, but with a gothic atmosphere - something
like a small castle.  There was an open bar serving beer (alcohol seems
to be more and more common at Detroit raves) but the whole event went
off incredibly!  If you missed it, you missed out :-(

	Anyways, for the weekend of 9.11.93 in Detroit

	Metamorphosis 
	Presented by FUNKIT

	DJs

	d.wynn
	mike huckaby
	rob noise
	bileebob
	dat
	& special guests

	3009 gratiot  (down the street from Recordtime!)
	313.901.5052

	Visuals by
		detroit bomb squad (graffiti art)
		live paintings by local artists

	Nourishment by
		Hendrix (saudsage man)
		Fruit Frog
		Joosee Juicer

	11PM til 6AM
	NO ALCOHOL

-------------------------------

	Also, apparently, OZONE is planning something for the same night.
However, they are not giving out information until the last minute (to
keep from getting a track record of busts after the Station Rave, I guess.)

\/\/\/\/\  Colin Evans
-=-_--_--_/\/\/\/\/
dn279@cleveland.freenet.edu

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Subject: ### MWRaves Calendar ###########################
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9/16 R Muncie     PINK'S PARTY
9/25 S StLouis    TRIBES OF UNITY
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<display RAVES in full>


16-17 SEPTEMBER thurs & fri	MUNCIE			PINK'S PARTY

                   David Hollands and Goque Groove
                           Invite you to 

     PPPP  I  N   N  K  K ' SSS     PPPP   A   RRRR  TTTTT Y   Y   
     P  P  I  NN  N  K K    S       P  P  A A  R  R    T    Y Y
     PPPP  I  N N N  KK     SSS     PPPP AAAAA RRR     T     Y
     P     I  N  NN  K K      S     P    A   A R R     T     Y
     P     I  N   N  K  K   SSS     P    A   A R  R    T     Y

On Thursday, yes Thursday, September 16th `ol Pink will have his day

We'll spend our time together delighting in Chromatic Excursions - 

>From the Vinyl palette of Pink's pals, to the mental mosaics of our

                          own creation.

  Muncie, Indiana        September 16-17      Ball State University

DJ's (Pink's Pals):
	Doc Martin	-Los Angeles	-Intntl Raw Vibe Authority
	Hyperactive	-Chicago	-Psybersounds Hard Acid House
	David Hollands	-Muncie		-Groove 2 Make U Move
	Mr. Linus	-U.K.		-Rare Groove Monger
	Jonathan Keith	-Indianapolis	-The Rotavator Returns
	Flash Gordon	-Cincinnati	-Back From Germany w/ Frankfort Sound

-30K of Surround Sound by "Sound-O-Mighty"
-Computer Generated Visual Projections by "Mighty Pixel"
-Intellabeams and Cyber Lighting from the creators of "Gridlock"/Sight&Sound Inc
-"Free Form" Strobes, Mind Machines, Hallucination Simulators
-Full Smart Bar, Soft Drink Fountain, Orange Juice, Smacck Snacks, Body Painting
-Expanded Art Showcase, Complete Security Provided.

Sponsored and Supported by these Underground Dwellers:
	-Urb Magazine - Los Angeles		-Pervert Clothing
	-J2					-Get Smart: USA
	-ImSmartRU				-Boink?
	-SmilEE					-M&M&M

Ticket Information - $8 Adv/$10 @ Door:
	-Muncie:	Sight & Sound, 900 W. McGalliard, 317.289.8526
	-Indianapolis	Future Shock, 809 Broad Ripple Ave. 317.251.6957
			Digital Waves, SR 135 in Greenwood, 317.889.0191
	-Cincinnati	Avalon, 230 W. McMillan, (Clifton)  513.651.3847
	-Dayton		Stigmata, 519 E. 5th St.   513.222.5800
	-Columbus, OH	World Records, 1980 N. High St.,    614.297.7900

On Sept. 16th, meet at La Bamba Restaraunt, 1609 West University Ave. in

the Ball State University Village, Muncie, Indiana to get a map to the venue.

                    La Bamba is a map point only.
    Muncie is about 40 minutes North of Indianapolis on I-69 (exit 41).
 
	  24 Hr. Information numbers for updates on the Party
		-Groovus Maximus Bassline:	317.281.3000
		-Undergound Pipeline:		317.579.3053
		-SIN Line:			317.895.4546
		-Human Interaction available @  317.288.MARS

             Crazy Props to those who've supported in peace and 
                           Rave 4 the Phuture
                        "Don't Sink, Think Pink"


25 SEPTEMBER sat		ST.LOUIS		TRIBES OF UNITY
	
	hosted by M.A.R.S., call 314.995.6277

	DJs:
	Kevin Brock
	Merlin
	Jeff Feller
	Brad S.

	in a virgin city space just north of downtown:
	cheap juice bar
	free fruit
	gear 4 sale
	intelligent lights
	film loops


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MW-RAVES meetwhile-Raving List! 
   Issued THURSDAY, mail to:   mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu.... 
   This list consists of what everyone's doing for the upcoming 
   weekend. You should include where you'll be going, what you'll 
   be wearing, if you can offer rides/crash spaces, and any other 
   relevant information.
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MW-RAVES ARCHIVES!
  are maintained by Paul Madden (madden@anton.cvm.uiuc.edu)
  ftp to: pasteur.cvm.uiuc.edu  -or- 128.174.187.7
  cd into the directory 'mwr'           be nice and use it after hours
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DETROIT:
  The Underground INFO LINE           313.927.DAM1 (1515 stuff)
  VOOM                                313.433.2129
  Brainfish                           313.358.9882
  Ozone - Uniting Souls of the Night  313.746.9644
  loopin' in existance  - L.I.E.      313.901.5101

 Where to buy 12" in DETROIT
  RecordTime  25110 Gratiot Roseville MI  313.775.1550
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ST. LOUIS:
  Global Organization of Dance (GOOD) - do shows in St. Louis
  Find your info from Ultrasonic 1219 Washington St. Louis MO.
  AND: West End Wax, Vintage Vynal, Sound Revolution, and the Avalon
  DETAILS: (314) UDO-RAVE

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ST. LOUIS       XODUS at OFF LIMITS New Ballwin Rd Manchester MO
		Sunday
ST. LOUIS       SECTOR 17 St Charles MO 314.230.2317  
                Wednesday-Saturday / 17up no alcohol               
CLEVELAND       SMART BAR 1575 Merwin Av 522.1575                 
		Wed (alt/techno) / Fri & Sat (techno/house) / always 19up
CLEVELAND       ALTER HOUSE / 1273 W 9th 781.4400
                Thu (acid/deep house) / Fri (alt) / Sat (whatever) / 18up
CLEVELAND       METROPOLIS 2325 Elm St 241.4007
                Sunday (the Church--hardcore/breakbeat--very cool!) / 18up
CINCINNATI      THE WAREHOUSE 1313 Vine St
                Wed 10-2 $2 / Thu 10-4 $2 (DJ Bob-A-Dob) / Fri 10-4 $3
 		Sat 10-4 $5
                Info: mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu or
                      ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
CINCINNATI      JIVE ALIVE at R-CLUB on Calhoun near UC campus
                Monday (DJs MINDCANDY & DAISY)
CHICAGO         FOXIES                 
                Tuesday (DJ Spencer Kinzey)
CHICAGO         RED DOG           
                Wednesday (DJ Diz)
CHICAGO		SHELTER	564 W Fulton
	 	Thu-Sat (DJs TOM E & JOHN CURLEY underground/groove house)
CHICAGO		CROBAR N Kingsbury near W North
		Thu-Sat (DJs PSYCHO BITCH & TERRY BRISTOL techno/house)
DAYTON          THE PALACE CLUB 2346 Grange Hall Rd Beavercreek
                Monday & Wednesday / 8-2 / 18up
DAYTON          1470 WEST 1470 W Dorothy La Kettering
                Thursday (techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DAYTON          CITY LIGHTS 1721 N Main St N Dayton
                Sunday (underground/techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DETROIT         HEAVEN Woodward & 7mi
                Saturday
DETROIT         1515 Broadway 313.245.4785
                Saturday
DETROIT         INDUSTRY 15 S Saginaw at Pike Pontiac MI 313.334.1999
                Friday
MILWAUKEE       at NITRO 500 W Water St 414.356.1360
                Wednesday (DJs MR BILL, ACID BOY TODD P & TOBY TYLER)
MINNEAPOLIS     at FIRST AVENUE
		Tue (techno/indust) / Wed (hardcore techno)
		Sat & Sun (best nights) / Sun (all ages)
MINNEAPOLIS     GLAM SLAM (Prince's club)   
                Friday / 21up
MINNEAPOLIS     SALOON
                Sunday & Thursday
LEXINGTON       THE VIRTUAL GALLERY
    		Friday & Saturday / 2.30-4am

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send to ADDs and CORRECTs to:

	dan      modE@csd4.csd.uwm.edu



Daniel James Frederiksen
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From: alk@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Al Kolman)
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Subject: new club in Minneapolis
Cc: mode@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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There's a new club in Minneapolis....

The Forbidden Edge
407 W. Lake St., Minneapolis
Thurs: Hip-Hop 8pm-12pm
Fri&Sat: Techno Cult with guest DJ's, 8pm-12pm
Sun:   Hip-Hop 8pm-12pm
Beverages provided by Rusty's Smart Bar

More info as it becomes available
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Al Kolman
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From: constant@ecn.purdue.edu (Tino)
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To: mode@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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Status: OR

what about Zap! in Lafayette, IN and the party at 500 W. Cermak in Chicago?

Both of these have been posted to the list in the last 2 weeks, and both are
taking place on Sep. 11.

Doesn't anybody read this list?

Tino

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From: JEN THOMAS <THOMAS%EPIDAT.DecNet@wigate.nic.wisc.edu>
Subject: Madison rave
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Status: OR

Picked up this flyer the other day:
_________________________________________________________________________
Gravity's BIOFUNK

   Beyond the Valley of the Humongous Funk-us

	SATURDAY, SEPT. 25  --  MADISON, WISCONSIN


with:

Terry Mullan - St. Louis
Hyperactive - Chicago
Mystic Bill - Chicago
Mind Drive - Madison
Mr. E - San Fancisco
Kevin Wilk-e - Madison
Efex - Chicago

go mental in the agro zone & dip your soul deep in to the groove in the
  FUNKY TRIBAL VILLAGE
body and stress reducing MIND BOXES and psychic vibrator machines
 chill out in the ambient touch-e feel-e osmosis resurrection lounge
soul energizing space age vitamin INTELLI-BAR by dr. ribe o'flavour
 divine love vibes provided by erotishock
massive video overstimulation by e.2.speed
 forbidden cosmic fruit market
an all out bass bumpin, booty shakin, bell bottom bonanza

608-258-0003	312-792-6152	414-256-1733

Props to:  Drop Bass Network, Ripe, Sense, Boum, No One (Seattle), Kind
           Project, the Cardinal, Global Underworld Network...
_______________________________________________________________________

According to the rave line, the location won't be disclosed until that
Saturday; I've heard good and bad things about Gravity; if anyone is game
to check it out, she/he/it is welcome to stay at my house (max. 4, please).



From horvath%cs.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 09:45:58 1993
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To: mode@csd4.csd.uwm.edu, mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Subject: Re: ### MWRaves Calendar ########################### 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Sep 1993 08:32:58 EST."
             <9309081332.AA11633@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> 
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 09:42:56 -0500
From: horvath@cs.purdue.edu (Elod Horvath ('E'))
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>what about Zap! in Lafayette, IN and the party at 500 W. Cermak in Chicago?
>

Since it's not on the calendar, I decided to post the original message again.
Sorry if you've already seen it...

---

Come join us for Laf-a-lot's, er, I mean Lafayette's first rave!  Zap!  Come 
and help carve out a scene.  Let's zap this town into submission.  
Let's all vibe together.
---
Zap!


                 Lurking in the shadows.  Watching.  Waiting.
         Converging.  Forces from the Vibe Dimension descend bringing
     peace, love and the irresistible urge to dance.  Prepare yourself for
                    an invasion of the mind, body and soul;
                            prepare to be Zapped!

                  Aural Assaults:         Optic Onslaught:
                   sho                      Intelligent Lighting for 
                    jay                       Intelligent Minds by 
                     john                      Technocolor
                      wendell
                       rudy
                        & guests

                             September 11, 1993
                                Lafayette, IN
                           Info:  (317)-423-2885

From ndc%isoprophlex.engin.umich.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 16:11:51 1993
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Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 16:29:07 +0100
From: SPeCiMeN <ndc@engin.umich.edu>
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hey does anybody on here know anything about the new richie hawtin
"plastik man" double 12"?  i got it at rekordtime the other day
and what do you think falls out of the package but a promo sheet of acid?

on the sheet it has the plastik man logo printed a zillion times (one
for each perforated tab) and it says "not all of these tabs are real
but some of them are.."  i wonder if they ever put some real ones in
any of the records? not likely but it sounds like a pretty funny idea..

btw the record's dope. 

andy

From sho%physics.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 11:04:39 1993
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From: Sho Kuwamoto <sho@physics.purdue.edu>
Subject: Zap in Lafayette
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If anyone is coming down to Zap this Saturday, you are more
than welcome to crash at my place.  I kind of figure that
you aren't going to go out of your way to come to Lafayette
unless you know someone at Purdue, but just in case...

BTW, our very own Acid Boy Todd P is going to be coming down
to spin, although his name isn't on the flyer.  Should be a
good time. 

Peace.
-Sho
--
sho@physics.purdue.edu


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Subject: howdy y'all
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1993 17:46:36 +0100
From: SPeCiMeN <ndc@engin.umich.edu>
Status: OR


hi. this is a two part message.
it actually bounced the first time i sent it so this is the second try.

first:
welcome to all of the new subscribers and all that. i apologize
profusely for the delay in getting you added but in the last two weeks
my net access was quite limited. not only did i move twice, but i
also had my wisdom teeth forcibly yanked outta my head and it
didn't leave me in the mood for wading through my mail at 2400bps. and
i had a lot of mail... it feels great to eat solid food again though. 

anyway things should be up and running pretty much.

second:
well here's my intro:  
i'm the admin for this list right now.. i work at the computer aided
engineering network (CAEN) at the university of michigan which is also
the kind host for the list. i'm also a third year student of computer
science with a strong interest in graphics and artificial intelligence,
particularly forms of evolutionary computing..
in my spare time i practice dj'ing (and AM now looking for gigs!! call me!!)
house and some trance, acidy stuff, and some hardcore & DUB. i'm also
a hopeful musician and am trying desparately to finish up a demo
tape right now but things keep getting in the way. 
i wanna maybe throw a microrave in ann arbor sometime soon, too..hmm
since i don't have a car i don't make it to many events and i think
WALKING to one sounds like a great idea..
hmm. so that's about it..if you ever feel the need feel free to
 gimme a call at 313-663-4360 or whatever...

peace
andy  

------------------
SPeCiMeN/SelEktOR


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Subject: Cleveland This Weekend
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If anyone IS coming to Cleveland this weekend, drop me some e-mail...and if 
I'm not fighting in a tournament this weekend, we can hook up at my place 
either before and/or after the event at Smart Bar.

Peace.

Golden Boy

From randy%anywhere.umd.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 16:15:12 1993
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What..ami really supposed to post an introduction???

Anyway...ill be back in the KY area on the 5th of OCT. so look me 
up :)
Sasha

From ccat%netcom.com@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 16:46:35 1993
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 14:40:37 -0800
To: sfraves@techno.stanford.edu
From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)
Subject: Wavelength TV show..Who was the smart drink vendor?
Cc: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Status: OR

Did anyone catch the Wavelength cable TV show yesterday?
I just saw Bones (SF DJ) and he said that the promoter interviewed talking
about smartdrinks was talking about his products,which "were not all caffeine
and sugar."  Excuse me if this is a terminally stupid question,but I was
curious who this person was..Was it Scotto of NASA? (one of my
customers...)
I never catch media mentions like this until after they already air...
Does anyone have a tape of this show!?
-Chris.
-
Chris Beaumont
ccat@netcom.com
ccat@casa.stanford.edu           public key available via finger


From melissa%csd4.csd.uwm.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 17:29:25 1993
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Subject: intro
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (Midwest Raves)
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1993 17:21:58 -0500 (CDT)
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Okay, so this is kinda late.
Anyway here's my intro.  I'm Melissa Musante and I live in Milwaukee.  I
started raving in sept. of 92 shortly after that Grave happened and we all
got arrested.  That kinda intensified my feelings on the scene and gave me
something to stand up for and I did.  I asked my dad (a lawyer) to back up
all the "kids" (I use this term very loosly) who got busted by going on TV
with me.  He did and eventually got all the tickets dropped.  So that's my
little claim to fame.
Other than that I'm basically finished with my degree a UW-Milwaukee (all
need is this F*#*ING math test that I can't seem to pass).  I studied
theatre then film.  I'm currently working on a film about domestic abuse
among American High School Students.  It's going well and should be ready
for release by the end of the year.  I have recently started planing for
this rave-u-mentary thing. I think it's gonna go really well but it's going
to take longer than anyone thinks.  
Ummm...Oh yeah, I'm getting married to StevenJ next June.  We met whilee
raving but most of probally know that.  
That's it really.  I could go into what the scene means to me but it's
basically the same as what it means for everyone else... you know the
feeling thing.

see ya,
melissa

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Subject: r-u-m
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (Midwest Raves)
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Okay kiddies we've got a place to start.
There's a place in Milwaukee called MATA.  They're a public access place and
all I gotta do is go through their training program and I think I can get
access to everything we need.  Yeah!
Anyway, it's gonna be a couple of weeks before I can get trained so in the
mean time please post stuff you want to see included, stuff you don't want
to see included, if anyone out there wants to do music let me know (we need
original stuff 'cause I don't want to piss anyone off).  Also if you are a
promoter would you be willing to talk on camera?  DJ?  Raver in general?
I'd like to get some really smart types, this shouldn't be hard after seeing
all the intro's.  
Well, let me know,
melissa

P.S.  Who started this?  I hope I'm not stepping on any toes.

From aa2243%freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 17:47:09 1993
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From: aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu (John Kohlstrand)
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Subject: acid and detroit
Reply-To: aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu
Status: OR



I wondered that myself Andy. I contemplated eating every tab of acid with
my buddy as we drove to Toledo for a wedding to see if it worked. But then
(besides wondering how we would get home) I left the damn stuff at the 
radio station.

Some metal head must be wondering what god of gods was wonderful enough to 
leave a whole sheet of acid at the radio station. Hope he isn't disappointed.
:)

Yes, plastic man is definitely worth getting.


--
       _ __ ___MFA 04661 (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu)___ __ _
INDUSTRY. WOBC-FM 91.5 Oberlin, Ohio, USA.   The Chronicle. Elyria, Ohio, USA.
  ``The music is like Detroit, a complete mistake. It's Kraftwerk and George 
               Clinton stuck in an elevator.''  -- Derrick May

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From KEVFREY%SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep  8 18:19:40 1993
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From: "Kevin Frey" <KEVFREY@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU>
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Subject: Wavelength
Status: OR

First my intro,

I Began raving in August of 1992. I got involved as one of my friends
introduced me to techno music, and I asked him where he learned of the type of
music.

He told me from raves. Well, I got deeply involved with the music and finally,
one evening, I found out about a local rave. I was there about two hours after
it started (10) and stayed till the cops came (around 4), I immediately fell
in love with the scene and the vibes. It was the most fun I've ever had in my
adult life, perhaps my entire life. It was a complete fulfilling experience,
everything about it seemed perfect, I felt I belonged.

Ever since I have sought out others like me and developed a slight addiction
to the feeling that surrounds 'Rave'.

-----------------

I saw the TV show named Wavelength, just the last around 20min. I was channel
surfing when I noticed MOBY talking on some show, I immediately slapped a tape
in and hit REC. It was generally stupid. It was geared toward an early teen
audience, so I wasn't happy about the way they were portraying it.

Also, this type of show seems to show the scene to a huge viewing audience
that would otherwise not know about these things, which can be good.... The
only problem is, the people who go to raves because they think they are going
to be an alcohol-fest, just like any other party, and some of these types turn
into trouble makers because of their closed mindset or just a bad first
impression.

Anyhow, I don't remember the guy's name who was making smart-drinks, but I
have that part on tape, so I can send it to the list if need be, This comment
being geared toward Chris I think... I have your note somewhere in Mail...

Well, I unsubcribed at the beginning of summer, and now I resubscribed, and
I'm happy to see that there are still others involved. I have been somewhat
removed from the scene over the summer, not the music though, so I am pumped
to go to my first fall 93 rave. Hardcore tends to move me bunches...

I am also looking forward to the chance to take the new significant other in
my life to her first, that ought to be a hoot!!

Keep it alive and buck the system and their screwed up priorities.


nivEk.

.AD siucvmb.siu.edu(kevfrey)

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From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie)
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greg kus, your ignorance and stupidity frightens me...


>> GENETIX WILL BE FUNDING THE RAVE...however, your support, input and
>> encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated...
>>
>
>Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of the original post about
>doing our own thing???


ok...first of all, i dont remember _your_ name being among among the many
who offered their services or support when i asked for it...now its "*our*
own thing?!" oh, i forgot, you were going to do sound and lights for
free...my bad.

second, READ THE POST! its obvious you were on some sort of illicit
substance when you first read it, because it clearly says, "your support,
input, and encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated."  and you
complain about it's not _our_ rave anymore?! oh, excuse me...if you want to
put up $5000 of your own money and risk (probably) losing all or most of
it, go right ahead, mr. mcduck...

>> you can email either john kohlstrand (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu) or
>> me to talk about the rave and give us suggestions/advice...we are taking
>> care of most of the details here on this side of the border...
>
>this isn't an MWRAVE rave anymore..

people, i wont even reply to this idiotic remark, when the evidence is
clearly in front of you...i'll let the intelligent ones make their own
decision...


>>however, if youre going to be helping out, we *might* let you in on it...:)
>>                              ^^^^^

im not even going to say that if you know me, you know my sense of
humour...but it shouldnt be too hard to figure out from the tone of the post.


>> what im saying is that we no longer need mwraves to throw this one, but we
>> would like to throw this one mainly for the midwest and beyond...its your
>> rave, we got the cash, how do you want it spent? (genetix and its us
>> partners reserve the right to ignore/turn down and suggestion offered..:)
>>
>OK.. This is definately not an MW rave event anymore is it??? I suppose    
>they reserve the right to profit also.... I am out in champaign Illinois
>and since most of you are out in Ohio, and there seemed to be a big
>group of people mainly from the net talking about organizing etc.. and \
>now.. you all want to just hand it over to Genetix to promote, organize,
>and probably profit from..... I thought it was going to be along the lines 
>of a Rave put on by MW-Net_ravers for all midwest ravers.. 

joe replied to this best...'nuff said....


and people, i know its bad taste to make flames public, but this is
ridiculous...here i am, trying to change the scene here in n. central ohio,
and help it out elsewhere, and this guy who doesnt even know me or what im
about gives me this load of crap...i got nothing to hide...a lot of you
know me well enuff to vouch for me and my intentions...ok?

greg, you wanna discuss this and your problems with it, id be honored to
explain myself more clearly to you via email...just dont go shooting off
with six guns a blazin' next time, until you get your facts straight first,
ok buddy?

peace,
hossam

--
Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B\Fax:216.368.5334
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    /-|-\\      let's getHyper!              cleveland, oh 44106   //-|-\
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>From the cyberdeck of Alan Calvitti...
::
::I am in very bad need of contacting any and all promoters in the mw area
::this means cinci,muncie,indy,chicago,detroit,madison,minnesota. I need to
::contact them about an event that is looking to be preety damn  big in
::cleveland on dec 18th and and all info can be sent to me at
::axc@po.cwru.edu.Or i can be reached by pager at 216-363-4251. Thanks in
::advance.

And not folks in Milwaukee?!?!  I feel... slighted, dejected, rejected. ;-)

::Kevin

Hrmm.  It doesn't look like Kevin is using his own account.  If you're in
Ohio get on the local Freenet thingy.


				       o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
								 steve j white
						    aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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well im finally settled in my new apartment in illinois (nr chicago)
my new email address is:  shum@merle.acns.nwu.edu

new locale but still spinnen the same old shit (da breaks) leave mail if you
want a deckteck that performs wit a southwestwest flava (houston to be exact)

leave mail if youalso leave mail if you want a copy of my demo done w/ 3 1200s... to the people
that already mailed me, i'm putten  (hossam, damia, i'm sending your shit out this week (eg hossam, damian
etc)

yours,m



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Hi, I suppose I've been yanked and prodded into writing this thing, why
I can't imagine...

Anyway, my name i go by is Sasha which I prefer and use a lot, but my
real Name is Mary Koster.  I'm from MD but am frequently staying in
LExington, KY due to a boyfriend there..quite a nice set up actually.
I have friends in the area as well.
I got into raving last year sometime..it was kinda an odd happening..
I was speaking of techno on a list called "The acolytes of the one true
dave" at the uni of MD and someone on the list made a list of the 
people who said they liked that funky music, and we had a small "raving"
list which we started talking on..about 8-10 people.  I thought not
much of it..and then more and more people wanted to be on and I decided
it was time to go to a rave..see what it was about...and by this time
we gave ourselves the name "UM Rave Coalition".  Well, the first rave I
went to was either Defcon 10 or Flinstone rave..and they were both interesting
and exciting..so i'd have to say i was turned on to the scene as such.
I knew lots of people who liked the music and we just kept getting on and
going to these events.  Later on we met up with Susie and most of us just
went to DC rave mailing list and that's where I reside mostly today..
we all are still UM RAve Coaltioners though..and even have JUST now..
been included in the student handbook at UMCP as a "club?" hehe really
cool! So we have dinners and parties and the like :) Maybe even SGA 
represented too if we are lucky.  Anyway..myself I"m 19 and go to community
college and yes I am a pirate of accounts..who isn't these days? I am
an art major not sure which direction i'm going in and hoping for
computer graphics or something really exciting where i can be my odd
self.  I am most known right now for my metallic green shoes..they
are quite a sight.  I am not going to college right now due to lack of
funds and dont' have a job yet either. So, hopefully these thigns will
improve..we'll see.  I think that is about enough of this garbage, no? :)
Take care and see ya all in Lexington i hope! :)
Love and hugs,
Sasha

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Reply-To: axc@po.CWRU.Edu (Alan Calvitti)


 

 It's been one long hard year in the making and now the time has come.

 The arrival is planned and their ships are fueled and ready. The time

 is now and the invasion has begun.......

 

 

                  Funky Alien Gizmos Proudly Presents

 

 

                          TERRA-X:THE ARRIVAL

                       " LET THE INVASION BEGIN "

 

                       

                       SATURDAY DECEMBER 15, 1993

 

 

 

   SOUL SONIC GROOVEMEISTERS

   _________________________

 

   DIESELBOY -> THE DARK SIDE MASTER 

   MANIPULATOR -> DELIVERED FROM HELL

 

   MANY MORE YET TO BE CONFIRMED

 

   SPACE BASE PERFORMANCE BY

   --------------------------

   SOOPER KOOL 1.8.7 

 

   

  MUCH MORE INFO ON THIS EVENT IS SOON TO FOLLOW INCLUDING BUS TRIP INFO,

  TICKET DEPOT LOCATIONS,VENDORS,AND MUCH MORE.

 

  FOR A LOOK INTO THE FUTURE CALL 216-238-1451 OR MAIL AXC@PO.CWRU.EDU

 

  THIS WILL BE A 100% LEGAL PARTY CLEVELAND HAS NEVER HAD A PARTY BROKEN UP

  FOR ANYTHING.

 

  ANY QUESTIONS CAN BE MAILED TO AXC@PO.CWRU.EDU

 


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The real date on that is December 18th not 15th.
kevin

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um...hi.  i just got back on after a summer off.  my name is benji.  i go
to skool at oberlin, in ohio.  and...i love to dance.  i've been into "rave"
for... two?  three?  years, ever since the first event THUMP! threw in 
minneapolis (i'm from minnesota), i really groove on hard trance and disco-y
garage.  (the new hardfloor double lp is INCREDIBLE by the way)  oh...i
kind of took it that someone suggested introductions, so that's what i'm doing.
i went to my first really SUPERunderground rave this summer, and it was 
incredible...as i was getting quite annoyed with scenesurfers and kiddies
(no offence to those of you under the age of seventeen, if there are any,
but there are sometimes i don't like to be surrounded by obnoxious 12 year olds
rekin my night, dig?)  well, i guess it sounds like i'm an asshole maybe, but
i'm really not, i just care a lot about ...rave, i guess.   and i'm glad to
be back on the list and i'm smilin to finally break into the ohio scene,
since i spent all last year moping about not having any connections until i
dicovered mwraves and then it was too late becuz i was leaving- this is long,
i apologize, i like to write music and i love drum machines and the pet shop
boys.  how was that?

benji

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>>greg kus, your ignorance and stupidity frightens me...
>>
>>>> GENETIX WILL BE FUNDING THE RAVE...however, your support, input and
>>>> encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated...
>>>
>>>Doesn't this sort of defeat the purpose of the original post about
>>>doing our own thing???
>>
>>ok...first of all, i dont remember _your_ name being among among the many
>>who offered their services or support when i asked for it...now its "*our*
>>own thing?!" oh, i forgot, you were going to do sound and lights for
>>free...my bad.

(PLENTY of mutually inflammatory remarks deleted...)

>>greg, you wanna discuss this and your problems with it, id be honored to
>>explain myself more clearly to you via email...just dont go shooting off
>>with six guns a blazin' next time, until you get your facts straight first,
>>ok buddy?
>>
>>peace,
>>hossam
>>

	Actually, if you have nothing to hide, I think we would all like to hear how
you convinced GENETIX to give you thousands of dollars for nothing.  I think
that would be very useful information.
	If that is not the case, I would like to hear what your approach will be when
GENETIX says:  'Permission *Denied*'.

	Make no mistake.  The people with the dough call the shots (the way it ought
to be, really).  Sure, I will agree that they may very well want the same party
we do, but whenever there is a disagreement, GENETIX will get their way.  I
think that this is all that Greg was trying to say (although his manner may
have left some room for improvement, as did yours, dare I say...).

	With that said, I still think that the GENETIX-based party is a good idea.  It
will give us the opportunity to get some experience in producing, without
putting our own money on the line.  If GENETIX does take over, there is no
reason that we can't have an MW-Raves party later, without them if we so
choose.

	And as far as the inflammatory remarks go, "Can't we all just get along??"


Happy raving,
Wally

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It's good to see that this project is getting off the ground!  I've
gone to our local cable access station in Madison (WYOU), and will be
taking some editing classes next month.  It's a really cool set-up --
as long as you pass their training programs, you can use the equipment
(cameras, lights, mics, editing/titling stuff).  The only catch is that
the station has first-airing rights -- that means that any video you
produce w/ their stuff must be aired first on their cable station, then
you're free to do whatever you want with it (sell it, show it elsewhere).
Melissa, I understand that MATA has a different policy -- do you know
what it is (concerning video airing/selling rights)?

So at the very least, I'll be learning how to edit video.  At the most,
I can use their equipment to shoot and edit rave stuff as long as we
agree to air it at WYOU first.  Melissa, we should discuss this.

Melissa raised some good questions -- as to the format of the video,
what do/don't people want?  Do we want to present "both sides" of
the rave issue?  The process of putting on a rave - pros and cons?
Net-ravers?  I agree that the positive "ravibes" should be stressed.

And yes, this will take a while.  If we can all agree on a format
then the rest will follow more easily.  So share your ideas!

peas,

jen

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From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie)
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>
>	Actually, if you have nothing to hide, I think we would all like to hear how
>you convinced GENETIX to give you thousands of dollars for nothing.  I think
>that would be very useful information.
>	If that is not the case, I would like to hear what your approach will be when
>GENETIX says:  'Permission *Denied*'.

paul, you ask two very good questions...i spent a lot of time in toronot
this summer, and met holly, a co-owner of genetix a rave promtoion group...
we became very good friends (as in boy/girl) and she suggested that genetix
would like to throw a rave in cleve.  (where i live)

i told her we had a site in mind, and that she should come down and see it
so we could go ahead on the project...she told me to take care of it w/o
her...so that's where we're at now...


in case genetix says "no" then it will be a small scale underground rave
thrown by mwravers for mwravers thethe only diff b/w the two events would
be that the genetix party would be above ground and legal, and funded by an
outside source, whereas the mwrave would be based on donations (time,
effort, money, equipment) by mwravers...the mwrave would be illegal, also...


>
>Make no mistake.  The people with the dough call the shots (the way it ought
>to be, really).  Sure, I will agree that they may very well want the same party
>we do, but whenever there is a disagreement, GENETIX will get their way.  I
>think that this is all that Greg was trying to say (although his manner may
>have left some room for improvement, as did yours, dare I say...).
>

again..SO?! its theri money.. i dont see the problem

>	With that said, I still think that the GENETIX-based party is a good idea.  It
>will give us the opportunity to get some experience in producing, without
>putting our own money on the line.  If GENETIX does take over, there is no
>reason that we can't have an MW-Raves party later, without them if we so
>choose.


exactly.


peace,
hossam

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    /-|-\\      let's getHyper!              cleveland, oh 44106   //-|-\
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Jen(ny?) Thomas tells us:	
>>It's good to see that this project is getting off the ground!  I've
>>gone to our local cable access station in Madison (WYOU), and will be
>>taking some editing classes next month.  It's a really cool set-up --
>>as long as you pass their training programs, you can use the equipment
>>(cameras, lights, mics, editing/titling stuff).  The only catch is that
>>the station has first-airing rights -- that means that any video you
>>produce w/ their stuff must be aired first on their cable station, then
>>you're free to do whatever you want with it (sell it, show it elsewhere).
>>Melissa, I understand that MATA has a different policy -- do you know
>>what it is (concerning video airing/selling rights)?
>>
>>So at the very least, I'll be learning how to edit video.  At the most,
>>I can use their equipment to shoot and edit rave stuff as long as we
>>agree to air it at WYOU first.  Melissa, we should discuss this.
>>
>>Melissa raised some good questions -- as to the format of the video,
>>what do/don't people want?  Do we want to present "both sides" of
>>the rave issue?  The process of putting on a rave - pros and cons?

Errr, what ARE the cons of raving???  :)

>>Net-ravers?  I agree that the positive "ravibes" should be stressed.
>>
>>And yes, this will take a while.  If we can all agree on a format
>>then the rest will follow more easily.  So share your ideas!
>>

I think that it would be useful to interview police, mayors, neighbors,
and others who might have an opposing point of view.  Since we are controlling
the editing and the direction of the thing, anything they say is going to sound
pretty mis-informed/stupid.

>>peas,
>>
>>jen

I think it should be our goal to establish:
	1)  What a rave is (I would like to know :)
	2)  Who is involved (personal profiles or interviews)
	3)  Where the conflict exists (between ravers and non)

	maybe each item would constitute a segment, where in 1), we would try to
transport the vibe to VHS as best we can.  Then get into the technical aspects
of it.  Where does the music come from?  What is a "Smart Drink"?  Isn't
everyone on drugs?  Why isn't there more violence with 100's of people in the
same place?  etc, etc.
	2) will probably be the easist to film, just stick a camera in someones face
and ax them "who are you and why are you here?"
	3), I don't know, some interviews with the cops, to explain their concerns,
and then key on what rave promoters are doing to address those concerns.

next?

rave on,
Wally

_______________________________________________________________
                                     |
It's only funny until someone        | Why would Parke-Davis
loses an eye  .)                     | want me to say anything
                                     | on their behalf?   
Paul Wehr:  Wehrp@aa.wl.com          |
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From SBG6623%ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 10 00:27:17 1993
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Subject: at the dj shop...(sing to tune of "futon shop" commercial)
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hi there.  i wuz just wundering if anyone knew of any dance vinyl shops in
cleveland, columbus, or anywhere in between or around about.  or any mail
order places with addresses i could get a catalogue of sorts from.  or any
where i could find a copy of "mixmag".  thanx.

groove on
love benji

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Well.... picked up 13 Above the Night, TKK's latest effort, and am listening
to it for the first time as I write.  Track 7, Final Blindness, is getting
played (although not to death) at First Ave and at raves around here.  The
album is a logical extension of Sexplosion!, which means it's essentially
FuckDisco the way they do it best.  I like it, but then I'm easy.

Moby: 12" Move.  Well, the title track is the only one I thought wasn't up to
snuff, but then this is Moby, and, well, his not-up-to-snuff is still pretty
tasty.  The other three tracks, Morning Dove, All that I need is to be Loved,
and Unloved Symphony, are great.  Unloved Symphony is especially good, going
between nicefastdrumbeat and easy, ambient music, piano fade.  There's also an
extra Promo 12" of remixes thrown in that is great as well, but I'll leave
that to the Zebra review....
--------------------
Al Kolman
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From THOMAS%EPIDAT.DecNet%wigate.nic.wisc.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 10 09:36:28 1993
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Didn't make it to the Flavor Rave, but it sounds like 'twas a bust,
anyway.  

BTW, how's that new minneapolis club you mentioned, Al?  Is it only
open until midnight?  I hear that not many dance venues are open
past that time.  I've sampled the Mission and First Avenue -- both
on decent dance nights.

jen

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Subject: eardrop electronic sector: 12 sept 93 @ staches
To: alt.rave@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, osu.music@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu,
        mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (midwest rave list),
        rec.music.industrial@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu,
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eardrop productions presents

the electronic sector:

sunday, 12 sept 93

featuring 3 performers:
-----------------------

the evolution control committee *  (ecc@gnu.ai.mit.edu)

body release *  (tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)

martyr colony *


at staches;  n. high st, columbus, oh 43202

9:30 pm.

see ya there!



sines

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++++ tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu / analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
++++ 1770 n high st apt.L columbus, oh 43201 * 614 299 3101 vm 614 523 7762
++++ analogue heaven * ars * body release * enhanced * re:source * sense/net

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after seeing some intros i caught on that maybe i should send in a short one.
my name is sadie and i'm stuck here at indiana university..i'm originally 
from northwest indiana about 30 min from downtown chicago...i was really
into the chicago summer scene in '92 i think i went to a rave every weekend
that summer..now i only get to go to a few when i'm up there..my friend jason
is friends with joe (hyperactive) and roger ( rp smack) and weasel's me in 
to some events...i'm in my third year trying despeatly to get my art history
degree..after that i'm going to the north side of chicago to firmly plant my
butt in a swanky domicile...oh yeah i'm tall and lanky too ( lanky is a nifty
word) 
later alligators
sadie

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Greetings...

My name is Chuck and my computer/club name is Sinister.  A friend of mine,
that loves the spiritual experience of a rave as much as I do told me that
he obtains rave information through mw-raves.  So he told me to send
e-mail to you guys.  He goes to the same university that I do.  His
address is chawley@andy.bgsu.edu.  Mine is ctakacs@andy.bgsu.edu (as if
you couldn't get that from the "from" part up above.)  Anyway, it would be
greatly appreciated if you could send me some information too.  Please
respond and tell me if there is anything else I have to do!

Sinnister Chuck



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hi! 


my name's paul rhee and yes, i am a computer illiterate.

is this where i request being added to the mwraves list?  if so,
could you please add me.  if not please tell me how.


thanks.



paul.





_________________________________________________

Junglist! 


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	...than never.  I am 23, going to school in east central
Illinois (I *know* you're all jealous).  I am finishing undergrad in
Botany, but I think I have tried every major available here (Eastern IL
Univ.) .  I am tall (6'5") and, like Sadie, somewhat lanky (though
swanky might be nice).  
	Still learning my way around "the Net".  Got on mwr at end of
last semester, forgot to unsubscribe and found about 1000 msg's on my
account when I got back from summer vacation.  Mostly lurk around
alt.rave.  trying to learn a little about making my own hypnotically
thumpin tracks, which will proceed much more quickly when I have more $.
	I am from Chicago, Southwest side actually which is pretty
devoid of culture as far as raves or anything interesting.  But I have
been to a number of events in Chicago starting last Xmas vacation.  Many
got busted, cancelled or just kind of...well, sucked.  But I went to a
few where the vibe was thick, and I never danced so hard.  
	Of course I've always been addicted to BASS, really to lots of
kinds of music.  Floyd, Death Metal, Rap, Classical, alternative,
campfire songs...:)  Nowadays I just love those peculiar Orb fellows,
ultramarine, and most of the phuct up shite I've heard at the raves I've
been to.             
	I also like some of the psuedo-philosophical thought surrounding
raves.  The stuff I read in Reactor Magazine (from Chi.) really got me
interested in the *scene*.  I like some of Terrence Mckenna's ideas and
being a Botany major I have learned about the ritual use of certain
botanical items to experience diff. modes of consciousness.
 	But I am far from being a druggie.  I am too busy and
chronically underfunded for that nonsense.  
	One of these days I'll figure out vrave...see ya then.
      
Peace y'all.
 


-- 
Bill Frain
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>"Before you see the Light,
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> you must die."
cuwpf@uxa.bgu.edu                                         --Slayer

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Greetings...

My name is Chuck and my computer/club name is Sinister.  A friend of mine,
that loves the spiritual experience of a rave as much as I do told me that
he obtains rave information through mw-raves.  So he told me to send
e-mail to you guys.  He goes to the same university that I do.  His
address is chawley@andy.bgsu.edu.  Mine is ctakacs@andy.bgsu.edu (as if
you couldn't get that from the "from" part up above.)  Anyway, it would be
greatly appreciated if you could send me some information too.  Please
respond and tell me if there is anything else I have to do!

Sinnister Chuck




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thanks for all the input so far.
I've come up with a very rough production schedual.  I want to start
shooting by New Year's Eve.  This may sound like a lot of time but it just
really isn't.  After that I figure we'll continue shooting into spring,
maybe even summer, and then spend the summer editing.  So...Keep those
ideas, suggestions pouring in. In the mean time I'll start somekind of
outline and I'll post it as soon as it's done for everybody's input.
Jen, I think we're coming to Mad-city for that Gravity event, maybe we can
get together.  Let me know.  If you want to call me my number is 414.CAT.PISS
See ya,
melissa

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okay, so i know west lafatete isn't the bse best of places to explore, buyt
hey, give it a chance.
my input r for the day in on the rave tonight:  SEPT 11th.  Today is 
saturday, in  case i have the wrong number.....
the number to call for instructions is (317) 423-2885.  There is a recording
which will mention "A oops, "ZAP!" and then it gives directions.
i have no idea what to expect for turnout-- a few dj's mentioned on the 
flier are "joe" " i meant to type "jay" and "sch.....".  i'm senile, so 
don't hold me for any names. 
tiex are 7 smackers.  no, no t for the door girl, either,you nasty boys you.
seven bucks.  
no hunting allowed.
i don['t think there's a sama smart bar or any drinking....
whatever.
peace.
-s

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Well, no one sent me anything and as near as I can tell from the amount of
messages being posted this last week nothing is happening ANYWHERE! But
taht's OK.. There's always next week.. Don't forget to send me mail
telling me where you will be so we can all meet up!  Later all!
                                  /     /\
                                \/ohnny \\uest
j. quest is:
mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu


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unsubscribe
-- 
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
'  Lauren E. Michaels  '
, lem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu ,
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From 00FLARAGON%leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Sun Sep 12 22:56:32 1993
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Hey, Its me floyd aragon with an introduction o' myself.  Presently I am 
attending ball state university home of the muncie "scene". I started raving in the summer of 92' with Candyland in chicago, since then I ve see raves change 
and have their ups and downs.  Well thats all for this second year freshmen see
ya at Pinks Party on the 16th and 17th right here in Muncie 
cheese and onions --- floyd (not pink)

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The vibe was good and the cops were gracious.  Metamorphosis was a good
time all 'round.

The location was nothing special -- an old dance/meeting hall that
would have reminded me of my high school prom's location if it weren't
crumbling so much.  The lights were nothing spectacular, either -- one
twirly light ball, some strobes, one static light beam thingy, a disco ball
in the chill-out room. But the music was excellent, the crowd wasn't too
big or too small, and everyone was there for a good time.  A very friendly
atmosphere.

We (myself and a first-time raver) got there about 2:30 a.m., just as D.
Wynn took over the tables.  Rob Noise -- a great manipulator of sound --
was next, then a guy named Eric Haupf (spelling?), who played some
delicious, spacy, pounding dance stuff.  They turned up the stage lights so
we could see these guys at work.

By 6 a.m. there weren't many people left, but they (and we) were
sweaty, deaf and happy.  Metamorphosis was about three blocks from a police
station, but the cops didn't give anyone any trouble.  Guess they
figured dance halls were meant for dancing.

I didn't see any mw-raves badges (but then, I wan't wearing one, either --
Chris Mellow, please send me your address).  Did anyone else go?  And did
OZONE ever do anything that night?

           ----------------- aHaB -----------------
   ---------------- chawley@andy.bgsu.edu  -----------------
                ------ (419) 372-6321 -------
 





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"Jennifer J. Smeddy" <smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu> writes:

>swamped with mail. i am going to have to unsubscribe. i was wordering if
>someone could explain what i should do to only recieve the calender and not
>the discussions. i hape to resubscribe in a couple of months when i am
>alittle more settled in to school again. thanks again...


at this point in time there is no calendar-only mwraves list..
mostly because the software here isn't really geared towards
mailing lists and it was easier to get one created than two for
a similar purpose.. i'll look into it though, since we've just
done some hardware upgrades and stuff. 

jen i'll unsub you in just a minute...



peace
andy

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test pattern.  sorry.  my last message didn't get through.


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hello again. this is jennifer smeddy from pennsylvania. i am a promoter for
the east coast. i promote under the name ZooM. i am very interested to here
about all the events that are happening in the mid west but i seemed to be
swamped with mail. i am going to have to unsubscribe. i was wordering if
someone could explain what i should do to only recieve the calender and not
the discussions. i hape to resubscribe in a couple of months when i am
alittle more settled in to school again. thanks again...

peace

jennifer smeddy (ZooM)  



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Hi all,

I went to Metamophosis this weekend and I thought it was pretty cool. 
However, as this was only my second event, I don't have much to compare it
to.  BTW, does anyone know who the DJ was from ~3 to ~4 or so?  Anyway,
while I was there I was handed a bunch of flyers; I thought you might like
to know about them.....

=============================================================================

Drop Bass Network & fourty three d studios bring you to

M     M   I   DDD    EEEE    OO   N   N
MM   MM   I   D  D   E      O  O  NN  N
M M M M   I   D  D   EE     O  O  N N N
M  M  M   I   D  D   E      O  O  N  NN
M     M   I   DDD    EEEEE   OO   N   N

On the night of september eighteenth, nineteen ninty three
Drop Bass Network in conjunction with fourty three d studios bring you to
MIDEON

Bringing two cities together to a spot convenient for Milwaukee and beyond.
Move your body on two seperate dance floors

TERRY MULLAN
	Mystic Bill
		HYPERACTIVE
			Miles Maeda
				EFEX
					Tony Garcia
						MR. BILL
							Davey Dave

HARDCORE/TRANCE/Acid/House

The house nation will not be stopped - 430 - hardcore will never die -
DROP BASS

info lines:	414.256.1733
		414.777.3998
		312.509.4902
		608.258.0003
		414.548.1973


=============================================================================

Sept. 93		11pm

The JUNGLE BEAT

Leave your whistle, bring a drum

POD productions

September twenty-fifth		11 o'clock

Starring in order - DJs - of appearance

Erich
			- an outdoor tribal gathering
DAT
			- sound and lighting by elite enterprises
Mike Huckaby
			- props to L.C.P. and definitive - get smart USA
David Alvarado
			- from family groove in Los Angeles
Jetstream
			- 3d.  digital.dug.design


                |				|
                |	       I-94		|
	========+===============================+===================
		|				|
		|Woodward			|Mt. Elliot
		|	    Jefferson		|
	--------+---------------+---------------+-------------------
				|
				|Orleans
				|
				|X  (Globe Trading Center)
		----------------+---------------------------
			      Atwater


=============================================================================

hope this helps....C-YA!

Sascha :)
sal@iti.org

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I just saw my own post and realized that I said "a bunch of flyers". 
Well, I didn't include info from the other two I got for a coupla reasons;
One, they were for the same event and two, because it is being held at
Industry, which leads me to believe it won't really be all that much of a
rave, but more of a 'show up and strike a pose' type thing ("Not that
there's anything wrong with that!" - J. Seinfeld)   Anyway, here's the info...


==========================================================================

Off the Record and Clutch Cargo's Present

PROJECT X WEEKEND

Friday - September 17			Saturday - September 18

	(Main)					(Main)
	KEOKI					DIMITRY (of Deee-Lite)
	PAUL VanDYKE				PAUL VanDYKE
	DAT					GUMBO (Live Performance)
	Mark McConnell				BUTCH
						   plus
	(Saroki)				ROMEO GIGLI fashion show
	Brian & Paris
						(Saroki)
	(Crunch)				LIFE RAFT by JUICY FRUIT
	Rainmaker				record release
	Jon Williams				   with 
	Greg Campbell				JOHN ACQUAVIVA
						D. WYNN
	WE ARE ONE by KEOKI
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XDZebra Review #36

        Addiction
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Review #36 Contents:
DWFS: Hemispheres
Compilation 3
Digital Odyssey - A Cybersonic Adventure
Harthouse America - A Taste of Hard Trance
Pod Communication Presents: Atom Heart
Moby: Move EP
Amorphous Androgynous EP
Futurhythms [Promo]


DWFS: Hemispheres
Adrenalin/Micmac: ADR 9205
1  146	05:04 Drome in Effect
2  145	07:15 Snowbound
3  139	03:46 Sphynx
4  152	03:42 Quake
5  	00:15 Chant

Comments: DWFS produces hardcore that lies somewhere between Brooklyn and
Aphex.  There seems to be a single underlying theme to this EP, probably due
to the use of the 808 kickdrum on every track.  However, tracks like "Sphynx"
and especially "Quake" turn in an extremely noisy excursion over the analog
dial, tart and sour.  "Snowbound" is an attempt at hard trance, but it is so
cliched with the use of chorals it really is a sagging point on the disc.

Summary: 6/10.  A good use of analogs, but the rhythms in the background tend
to bore.


Compilation 3
FAX: PK 08/05
CD 1:
1  148	05:39 Deltraxx: Arcangel (Red Stripe Mix)
2  144	07:12 Limelight: rerum natura (pluris costare Mix)
3  144	06:59 Hearts of Space: All About Sensuality
4  136	09:27 Sequential: A Trip to Paradise
5  134	07:44 Olympic: Marathon - London
6  152	05:27 Crypt Corp.: It's All Around Us
7  160	05:17 Sythadelic: I'm A Secretary
8  157	06:07 Minimalistic Source: Minimalistic Overboost
9  126	06:25 Harmonize: Mediterranean Moods
CD 2:
1  145	06:28 Eternal Spirit (Northern Mix)
2  144	04:50 Oversize Pussy: Orange
3  160	06:05 Subsequence: Walking in my Dreams
4  140	06:19 Stanley Conaway: Pepperbee
5  128	11:32 Sequential: Saturn Cruises
6  140	08:50 Sextant: Global System
7  155	06:12 Escape: Escape to Neptune
8  144	08:02 Syn: If Only You Could See...
9  145	05:52 4Voice: Move

Comments: Yet another severely cool compilation from FAX records.  Not content
to produce just excellent hard trance anymore, this compilation branches into
experimental with "Saturn Cruises", acid jazz with "Mediterranean Moods",
progressive house with "Pepperbee" and head bleeding hardcore with "Move".
"Move", however, is on the Hoover vacuum side, 4Voice has definitely produced
better stuff in the past.  As for the the staple hard trance and trance, it is
completely up to par.  "Escape to Neptune", "rerum natura", and the Sequential
tracks are among my favorites.  Olympic's "Marathon - London" is an
interesting bow to a certain Kraftwerk piece, except this time its on foot.  I
like Olympic's vision better.

Summary: 9/10.  Another wonderful comp from FAX.  This time on two discs.
Pricey, but more music for the money.


Digital Odyssey - A Cybersonic Adventure
Moonshine Music: M 50087-2
1  123	06:42 Masters at Work Feat. India: I Can't Get No Sleep
2  125	05:06 Desire: Try the Love in Me
3  130	06:03 Crunch: Devo
4  128	08:19 Whoosh: Sometimes
5  132	05:26 Transform: Transformation
6  138	04:58 Aphrodite: Break of Day
7  130	05:25 E.K.O.: De La Casa
8  133	05:51 Decadance: Jump to It
9  140	05:16 Cold Automatic Eyes: Nasty Groove
10 137	05:54 Dektition: Love Rush
11 129	07:44 Free Love Foundation: Take My Love

Comments: A domestic collection of newish house grooves.  Most of the tracks
on here fall distinctly under garage house, and unfortunately, that is the
wrong end of the spectrum for me.  I do enjoy Transform's "Transformation" and
high breakability of Aphrodite's "Break of Day" but that is about it for this
compilation.  Dektition does merit some mention, but only for the fact that
they sound just like Altern8.

Summary: 4/10.  Yet another comp for house lovers.  Be wary if you're not
ready for divas and disposable music.


Harthouse America - A Taste of Hard Trance
Moonshine Music: M 50085-2
1  138  05:29 Arpeggiators: The Spirit Makes You Move
2  140  04:59 Hardfloor: Acperience III
3  150  07:19 Futurhythm: Red Heat
4  136  06:07 Barbarella: Barbarella I
5  153  05:08 Arpeggiators: Trancemission
6  143  06:27 Spicelab: Wierdo

Comments: Instead of simply domesticating the excellent Harthouse comp, "The
Point of No Return Chapter 1", Moonshine elected to give a fresher perspective
on what Harthouse is up to.  Arpeggiators kicks things off with their standard
fare of hardtrance and breathy female vocals, then another visit to the
"Acperience" progression is due with #3.  "Red Heat" is a disappointing entry
by "Futurythm".  It just seems to be another 303 wank, it certainly doesn't
compare to "Butoh".  "Barbarella I" is a bit harder than expected from
Barbarella, but no surprise to owners of the album.  Then Arpeggiators returns
with a noisy crusher in "Trancemission" which is definitely the highlight of
this collection.  Finally, Spicelab does an uncharacteristic soft trance
track.  They definitely do acid much better.

Summary: 6/10.  Good stuff from Harthouse via Moonshine, but not enough.  Most
tracks seem to be just the latest instead of the greatest.


Pod Communication Presents: Atom Heart
Pod/Sonic/Instinct: SNC-2026-2
1  138  05:29 M/S/O: Move Right Now
2  160  06:01 Urban Primitivism: 684
3  127  05:47 Datacide: Ritual of Transparency
4  137  05:18 Bi-Face: Mouthpad
5  132  06:27 Ongaku: Mihon No3
6  111  08:26 Lisa Carbon and Friends: Swing Me Machine
7  154  05:44 Atomu Shinzu: Red
8  132  06:35 M/S/O: Shiny Flowers
9  136  05:22 D'ammond: I Want You
10 127  06:34 i: 23'rd Autumn
11 134  04:59 Millenium: Vektor
12      07:25 Atom Heart: One Atomsecond

Comments:  Well on its way to becoming the noisiest, most acidic label in
techno, Atom Heart's Pod Communication becomes domestic to the states via
Sonic/Instinct.  This collection is a top notch example of Heart's work and
collaborations.  Every track has his stamp on it, save Pete Namlook's guest
appearance with Millenium.  Atom Heart is definitely the Richard James of
Germany and although he is only starting to come close in quantity, he is
starting to topple James with variety.  "Red" by Atomu Shinzu has to be heard
to be believed, techno by forced machine labor.

Summary: 8/10.  Noisecore to the fullest with the right amount of funky
variety, "Atom Heart" is a piece of distinguished work.


Moby: Move EP
Elektra: 61569-1 & ED 5663
Side A:
1  132	Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)
2  141	Morning Dove
Side B:
1  138	All That I Need Is To Be Loved
2  165	Unloved Symphony
Promo A:
1  132	Move (You Make Me Feel So Good)
2  140	Move (Sub Version)
3  132	Move (Radio Edit)
Promo B:
1  123	Move (M.K. Blades Mix)
2  151	Move (Disco Threat)
3  131	Move (Xtra Mix)

Comments: Moby's first release on Elektra is very much in his trademarked
style.  A nice variety of mixes is included on the extra promo vinyl, with the
energetic "Disco Threat" mix, and the ultrasmooth "Xtra Mix".  The main
problem with "Move" is the fact that it does bear a strong resemblance to his
past hits.  There isn't any real progression here.  Wailing divas and smashing
piano riffs, but no innovation.  The "Love" side of the EP is positive proof
that hanging around Liam Howlett for too long can be detrimental.  It is
Moby's first shot at fast breakbeat, and with the overhanging symphonic
strains, it sounds too much like Prodigy's "Weather Experience".  One track
though, stands far apart from the rest, the incredible tribal-middle-Eastern
whatmayyoucallit "Morning Dove".

Summary: 5/10.  A bit of a disappointment as far as new material for Moby.
Some killer remixing as usual, with one fantastic track in particular.


Amorphous Androgynous EP    [45]
Astralwerks: CAROL 6102
Side 1:
1  129	Liquid Insects
Side 2:
1  115	Mountain Goat
2  136	Skyscraper

Comments:  With just one bonus track on this EP that is not present on
the album, and no remixes, this release makes you wonder just why
they did it.  "Skyscraper" is a spacey, rubber-sounding mover, but
is definitely bottom material for Cobain and Dougans.  The other two
tracks are identical to the album.

Summary: 6/10.  Not bad, just pointless.  It would have been better
as a 33 with a few remixes tossed in.


Futurhythms
Warner Bros/Giant/Medicine: PRO-A 6474
Side A:
1  125  05:22 Leftfield: Song of Life (Club Mix)
2  125  04:18 Leftfield: Song of Life (Radio Edit)
Side B:
1  130  05:29 Q.B.N.Z.: A Great New Adventure
2  126  06:22 Young American Primitive: Young American Primitive

Comments: This is a short promo preview of a compilation being released soon.
The reason for release is to mainly get "Song of Life" on the floors before
releasing "Futurhythms".  Frankly, the press release excites me more than this
12".  Artists like Jungle High, Moby, The Tripp, and Sven Vath will all be
included.  As for "Song of Life" itself, this is the first time I've heard it
and it is probably the best thing I've heard out of Leftfield.  All four
tracks on here make good use of female vocal samples, but YAP stomps all over
the other two groups in structure and progression.  "A Great New Adventure" is
weak and lacks any real intelligence.

Summary: 7/10.  The compilation looks exciting, although most of the tracks
have been available on import for a while.  I think they could have picked a
better frontrunner than "Song of Life".

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>> Compilation 3 FAX:PK 08/05

Should it not be Compilation 4.....?
Compilation 3 was an ambient collection last time I saw it, and it's been around for
quite a long time.... And track listing is pretty different....


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[Sorry for the wide distribution, but...]

> >> Compilation 3 FAX:PK 08/05
> 
> Should it not be Compilation 4.....?

Nope.

> Compilation 3 was an ambient collection last time I saw it, and it's been around for
> quite a long time.... And track listing is pretty different....

Nope again.  There are two series of compilations from Fax, the
regular ones and the ambient ones.  And they are not numbered
sequentially, they are numbered after the series of releases from
which their selections are taken.  There have been Compilations 1, 2
and 3, and Ambient Compilations 2 and 3.  There was no Ambient
Compilation 1.  Compilation 4 and Ambient compilation 4 are scheduled
for release during weeks 38 and 35 of 1993, respectively.

-Ed     SLiP
        "into something more comfortable"

        ne-raves Fax junkie

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Hello -

I recently have been charged with the task of writing an articale for the  
chicago rave magazine REACTOR about the role of the internet within various  
rave communities - and I figured well the best way is to do it is to compile  
and submerse the lists comments into the articale - so fire away kids - what  
role do we all feel we play within our own cumminites?

--Kurt

P.S.  The reason I'm doing this is because I feel that we are all part of some  
form of commuinty and the best way to expose that community

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At Metamorphosis, from 3 to 4 a.m.:  The big guy with the black net shirt
was D. Wynn, the guy with the white sweatshirt was Rob Noise.


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well...i just got back from a ne-raves picnic in central park..before almost all of us went over to Essence 3 for the rave...

woops, threaten the way society acts, as if this is bad.  well, society is going to change whatever happens, but my point is that there's still real life interaction.  and for the most part, i think, most people treasure this way more than interaction by computer, or at least find it a beautiful addition to virtual interaction.

whatever...just my twooo cents :)

bye
chris

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subscribe me please!!!!!!!

thanx
johnw

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To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (Midwest Raves)
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as you probably know im the compiler of beloved MWRAVES CALENDAR and thats
probably all you know!

this INTRO is  l o  n   g  overdue

i really dont know why i decided to do the calendar.  just to get involved
i suppose.  at the time id only been on the list (the net for that matter)
for a month or two and jumped at the chance of getting involved in something.
actually having a responsibility to be involved in something.  to feel needed
and depended on.  to feel important and accomplished.  no, im only teasing.
im simply doing it because it keeps me abreast to whats coming on at least in
the midwest and maybe ill meet some people along the way.  back ground.  it
started at mom.  her stars on 45, abba, carpenters really excited me.  mom
loves to dance (nothing professional) and i grew up dancing.  always dancing.
she still insists i dance with her.  i do.  i cant believe it!  her birthday
was three days ago and i DID forgot.  mine is tommorow.  free drinks!  late
seventies very early eighties electroPOPular started hating guitars depeche
mode them belgiums then london house then i stopped buying 12s dorian grey
thump always hardcore and also a few things flowing to way ambient.  im only
interested in the sound and its affects. im just absorbing all the interesting
minds i hear.  everything is now.  i am happy.  can be happier.  it'll come.
its been evolving beauteously and its firmly rooted.  and theres so much
getting out there now.  ill just keep on focusing my interests follow vibes
and im trying to create.  notator logic will be at my door in a matter of
days.  whos out there?  i go to just about every other event i can get.
per sonal.  im well 23 in a little while.  student of international
relations/german studies (ie MIDI).  i just need germany.  did london four
months in aggregate and key cental-european cities.  doing nyc for a month 
next summer.  then one more semester left in milwaukee.  i will then
assimilate somewhere across the atlantic.  who knows.  i know ill be on the
net for quite a while.  i want morpheous z-plane synthesis!


Daniel James Frederiksen
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 01:33:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chris Hawley <chawley@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: introduxion
To: midwest raves <mw-raves@engin.umich.edu>
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Well, I s'pose I'll go naked, too:

My name is Chris Hawley, a.k.a Ahab.  I've lived all over the United
States and spent some time in Japan, but I call Chelsea, Michigan my home.
It's about 20 minutes west of Ann Arbor.

By day I am a college student and a journalist in Bowling Green, Ohio.  I also
d.j. radio.

I grew up listening to Gershwin, Herb Alpert, Henry Mancini, and 1960s
film soundtracks.  I didn't listen to the radio much when I was a kid, and
as a result I grew up with tastes unlike any of my friends'.  My father
plays every stringed instrument there is, but as a result of my teenage
rebellion, I grew up unable to play anything.

When I was in the sixth grade, I persuaded my father to buy a home
computer, a Commodore 64. The first software we bought was a primitive music
maker, and for a while I tried to program it.  I also collected SID songs
and those programs that made psychedelic patterns while playing music.  I
loved programming. Kraftwerk's "Home Computer" means a lot to us who grew
up in the wonder years of 1981-1984, the home computer revolution.

I love gadgets of all types.  I'm a technology junkie.

Anyway, I got into techno after getting a radio show at Bowling Green
State University.  I played Intermix, Lords of Acid, etc.  I've gotten
heavily into it only this summer, after living with John Kohlstrand (a.k.a.
Ironman a.k.a. Cybotron a.k.a. MFA0004661).  I went to my first rave with
him and did a techno show w/ him.

That's about it.  If you're in the Toledo/Bowling Green area, let me know.
We'll carpool to sometime.


           ----------------- aHaB -----------------
   ---------------- chawley@andy.bgsu.edu  -----------------
                ------ (419) 372-6321 -------




From cmellow%moose.uvm.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 14 00:59:07 1993
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woops, i just read my post and it was *very* messed up...i guess i deleted part of it :)

what i was trying to convery is that while certainly we treaure the on-line time, we also like to have real life interaction as well...

whatever.. :)
chris

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    THIS THURSDAY                              THIS THURSDAY

                   David Hollands and Goque Groove
                           Invite you to 

     PPPP  I  N   N  K  K ' SSS     PPPP   A   RRRR  TTTTT Y   Y   
     P  P  I  NN  N  K K    S       P  P  A A  R  R    T    Y Y
     PPPP  I  N N N  KK     SSS     PPPP AAAAA RRR     T     Y
     P     I  N  NN  K K      S     P    A   A R R     T     Y
     P     I  N   N  K  K   SSS     P    A   A R  R    T     Y

On Thursday, yes Thursday, September 16th `ol Pink will have his day

We'll spend our time together delighting in Chromatic Excursions - 

>From the Vinyl palette of Pink's pals, to the mental mosaics of our

                          own creation.

  Muncie, Indiana  ---  September 16-17  ---  Ball State University

DJ's (Pink's Pals):
	Doc Martin	-Los Angeles	-Intntl Raw Vibe Authority
	Hyperactive	-Chicago	-Psybersounds Hard Acid House
	David Hollands	-Muncie		-Groove 2 Make U Move
	Mr. Linus	-U.K.		-Rare Groove Monger
	Jonathan Keith	-Indianapolis	-The Rotavator Returns
	Flash Gordon	-Cincinnati	-Back From Germany w/ Frankfort Sound
	SPECIAL GUEST APPEARANCES/PERFORMANCES BY ???

-30K of Surround Sound by "Sound-O-Mighty"
-Computer Generated Visual Projections by "Mighty Pixel"
-Intellabeams and Cyber Lighting from the creators of "Gridlock"/Sight&Sound Inc
-"Free Form" Strobes, Mind Machines, Hallucination Simulators
-Full Smart Bar, Soft Drink Fountain, Orange Juice, Smacck Snacks, Body Painting
-Expanded Art Showcase, Complete Security Provided.

Sponsored and Supported by these Underground Dwellers:
	-Urb Magazine - Los Angeles		-Pervert Clothing
	-J2					-Get Smart: USA
	-ImSmartRU				-Boink?
	-SmilEE					-M&M&M

Ticket Information - $8 Adv/$10 @ Door:
	-Muncie:	Sight & Sound, 900 W. McGalliard, 317.289.8526
	-Indianapolis	Future Shock, 809 Broad Ripple Ave. 317.251.6957
			Digital Waves, SR 135 in Greenwood, 317.889.0191
	-Cincinnati	Avalon, 230 W. McMillan, (Clifton)  513.651.3847
	-Dayton		Stigmata, 519 E. 5th St.   513.222.5800
	-Columbus, OH	World Records, 1980 N. High St.,    614.297.7900

On Sept. 16th, meet at La Bamba Restaraunt, 1609 West University Ave. in

the Ball State University Village, Muncie, Indiana to get a map to the venue.

                    La Bamba is a map point only.
    Muncie is about 40 minutes North of Indianapolis on I-69 (exit 41).
 
	  24 Hr. Information numbers for updates on the Party
		-Groovus Maximus Bassline:	317.281.3000
		-Undergound Pipeline:		317.579.3053
		-SIN Line:			317.895.4546
		-Human Interaction available @  317.288.MARS

             Crazy Props to those who've supported in peace and 
                           Rave 4 the Phuture
                        "Don't Sink, Think Pink"

	THIS THURSDAY       9:30p - 5:00a  (Afterhours to follow)

        There is an additional/separate Event on Friday to be with the 
	Same D.J.'s only smaller, more scene oriented, darker  . . .
	InforMOTION on Friday will be at Thursday's Space and on the 
 		Groovus Maximus Bassline - 317.281.3000

	      ?'s Still?  Call us personally @ 317.288.6277

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                       \.
         FIERCE!        \\    Date/Time (local/geo-relative)
                         \ \    Brisbane      Fri 24 Sep 19:00-05:00 +2200 GMT
  BANDS/PERFORMANCE/RAVE  \  \    San Fran.   Fri 24 Sep 01:00-11:00
                           \   \    New York  Fri 24 Sep 04:00-14:00
    supporting the year     \    \    London  Fri 24 Sep 09:00-19:00
   of indigenous peoples     \     \             [ in US, Thu night/Fri morn ]
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                                                       \  \  RIC Sarawak Fund
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Everyone,

	sorry to post here, but i think kurt is having trouble getting my
	e-mail messages.  sooooo....

	KURT VILE : please e-mail me at damian@cislabs.pitt.edu

	didn't mean to waste bandwidth.

	ObRecommends : Vibes & Wishdokta - Freeaneazy
		       Tango & Fallout - Further Intrigue
		       DJ Peshay - Protege EP

thanx,
dieselBoy

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Hello,

Anybody have an idea as to how far it is from Champaign, IL to Muncie,
IN?  or from Champaign to Indy?  Sorry, I'm too lazy to find a map.

thancz in advanz.

ps any thoughts about going thurs. vs. fri.?



-- 
Bill Frain
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>"Before you see the Light,
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> you must die."
cuwpf@uxa.bgu.edu                                         --Slayer

From kronz%ecn.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 14 12:46:25 1993
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hey everyone,

	Just wanted to let everyone who's comming to Pinks Party from
the N.E IL  area.  Even Though SR.26 looks like it would be fast
to get to Muncie it is under construction... Therefore it is actually
faster to go all the way Down to INDY on 65 and back up on I-69...

People in Chicago probably use some other route anyway....


hope this makes since I just woke up.. :-)

 
-Jason A Kronz                 ||   void rave(void)
Kronz@en.ecn.purdue.edu        ||        {     if (!alive) {return();}
N9OFN                          ||                 else { rave(); }
TechNO-Krontz                  ||        }

From twitch%casa.Stanford.EDU@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 14 17:33:49 1993
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The record company that I run is having a sale.  I know that using the net
and mwraves for profit is a no no, but we've greatly reduced our prices for
this sale, and Andrew Bennett approved this message before I sent it out.


Here's the deal:

All items are $10 each.  Or get any five items for $40.

Details: Minimum order of $20.  (A two-record set counts as one item.  A CD
also counts as one item.)  Prices include postage.  If you want to order by
COD, the UPS COD charge is $4.  Payment must be in the form of check or
money order, made payable to Twitch.  We do not accept credit cards.
These prices are valid for US and Canada customers only.  Sale ends 9/27/93.

To order, send a check or money order to: Twitch 584 Castro Street, Suite 600,
San Francisco, CA  94114.

Please do not ask us to notify you by email that we received your order.


Here's what's available (CDs listed first, followed by vinyl) ---



Compact Discs (CDs are all at least 73 minutes long.)


Twitch CD #8

DOP - "Non-Stop"
Harri - "Skelph"
Helicopter - "On Ya Way"
The Wildchild Experience - "Jump to My Beat"
Mother - "All Funked Up"
Daisy Glow - "Sunday in the Park"
Central Fire - "Central Fire"
Direckt - "Two Fatt Guitars"
Up Above the World - "Unleashed in the East"
Meat Beat Manifesto - "Mindstream"
Front 242 - "Religion"
PG1 - "Jazz Energy"


Twitch CD #7

The Shamen - "Boss Drum"
Gipsy - "I Trance You"
RuPaul - "Supermodel"
Paradise Organisation - "Prayer Tower"
Slave to External - "Disintegrate"
Fargetta - "Music Is Movin'"
Outermind - "I Still Want You"
Daisy Glow - "Give It All"
Tasti Box - "Asid"
Lemon Interupt - "Minniapolis"
Intermix - "Monument"
Illuminator - "Your Eyes Will Be Open"


Twitch CD #6

Lion Rock - "Lion Rock"
Baha Men - "Back to the Island"
Jaco - "Show Some Love"
The Orb - "Blue Room"
Fini Tribe - "Forever Green"
Coco Steel & Lovebomb - "You Can't Stop The Groove"
Supereal - "One Nation"
Prefab Sprout - "If You Don't Love Me"
Shakedown Productions - "Alhambra"
Electrosonik - "I am the Creator"
The Ultraviolet Catastrophe - "Trip Harder" (12" mix)


Twitch CD #5

DOP - "Groovy Beat"
Gat Decor - "Passion"
Rozalla - "Are You Ready to Fly"
Rough and Raw - "Money for Nothing"
The Darwin Chamber - "Mesmerelda"
Studio X - "Los Kings del Mambo"
M to the Third Power - "Brainwaves"
Kid Unknown - "Nightmare"
M17 - "Rockin' Down the House"
Run Tings - "Fires Burning"
Tasti Box - "Electrons"


Twitch CD #4

React 2 Rhythm - "Whatever You Dream"
Young American Primitive - "Nature"
Jam & Spoon - "Stella"
Skin Up - "Ivory"
Sonic Boom - "Tra La La"
Zero B - "Lock Up"
Direckt - "I Got Ya"
Sonz of a Loop da Loop Era - "Far Out"
After Dark - "Come With Me"
Nebula II - "Flatliners"



Vinyl 2-record sets:


Twitch Volume 12

Mother - "All Funked Up"
Mr. Jackson - "Mo'kassa"
DOP - "Non-Stop"
Front 242 - "Religion"
The Wildchild Experience - "Jump to My Beat"
Daisy Glow - "Sunday in the Park"
PG1 - "Jazz Energy"
Da Juice - "C'Mon C'Mon"


Twitch Volume 11

Direckt - "Two Fatt Guitars"
Meat Beat Manifesto - "Mindstream"
Harri - "Skelph"
Cantor & Moses - "Cosmic Dub"
Up Above The World - "Unleashed in the East"
Helicopter - "On Ya Way"
Slave to External - "Disintegrate"
Central Fire - "Central Fire"


Twitch Volume 10

The Shamen - "Boss Drum"
RuPaul - "Supermodel"
Daisy Glow - "Give It All"
House Pimps - "Zulu Nation"
Intermix - "Monument"
Lemon Interupt - "Minniapolis"
Outermind - "I Still Want You"
Paradise Organisation - "Prayer Tower"


Twitch Volume 9

The Orb - "Blue Room"
Jaco - "Show Some Love"
Coco Steel & Lovebomb - "You Can't Stop The Groove"
Gipsy - "I Trance You"
Fini Tribe - "Forever Green"
Bongo Massive - "Pascal's Dance"
Fargetta - "Music Is Movin'"
The Ultraviolet Catastrophe - "Trip Hardcore"


Twitch Volume 8

Supereal - "One Nation"
Prefab Sprout - "If You Don't Love Me"
Fierce Ruling Diva - "You Gotta Believe in Something"
Electrosonik - "I am the Creator"
Tasti Box - "Asid"
Shakedown Productions - "Alhambra"
Baha Men - "Back to the Island"
Lion Rock - "Lion Rock"


Twitch Volume 7

Rough and Raw - "Money for Nothing"
Gat Decor - "Passion"
M to the Third Power - "Brainwaves"
Studio X - "Los Kings del Mambo"
Rozalla - "Are You Ready to Fly"
DOP - "Groovy Beat"
The Darwin Chamber - "Mesmerelda"
Human Resource - "Dominating the Mix"


Twitch Volume 6

Sonz of a Loop da Loop Era - "Far Out"
Kid Unknown - "Nightmare"
Direckt - "I Got Ya"
Run Tings - "Fires Burning"
Zero B - "Lock Up"
Two Little Boys - "Stylophonia"
Young American Primitive - "Nature"
Nebula II - "Flatliners"


Twitch Volume 4

Masterminds - "EMF"
Messiah - "There Is No Law"
Kelly G Perfect Rhythm - "PM"
Tech Man 1 - "Changes"
Biohazard PCB - "Ingest"
Radioactive Goldfish - "LSD Is The Bomb"
Latino Party - "Tequila" / "The Party"
Return Of The Living Acid - "Get Funky"




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9/16 R Muncie     PINK'S PARTY
9/17 F N.Pontiac  PROJECT X  
9/18 S Milw/Chi   MIDEON
9/25 S Madison    BIOFUNK
9/25 S StLouis    TRIBES OF UNITY
9/25 S ?          JUNGLE BEAT
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<display RAVES in full>


16-17 SEPTEMBER thurs & fri	MUNCIE			PINK'S PARTY

                   David Hollands and Goque Groove Invite you to 

     PPPP I N N K K ' SSS PPPP A RRRR TTTTT Y Y P P I NN N K K S P P A A R R
     T Y Y PPPP I N N N KK SSS PPPP AAAAA RRR T Y P I N NN K K S P A A R R T
     Y P I N N K K SSS P A A R R T Y

On Thursday, yes Thursday, September 16th `ol Pink will have his day

We'll spend our time together delighting in Chromatic Excursions - 

>From the Vinyl palette of Pink's pals, to the mental mosaics of our

                          own creation.

  Muncie, Indiana September 16-17 Ball State University

DJ's (Pink's Pals):  Doc Martin	-Los Angeles	-Intntl Raw Vibe Authority
	Hyperactive	-Chicago	-Psybersounds Hard Acid House David
	Hollands	-Muncie		-Groove 2 Make U Move Mr.
	Linus	-U.K.		-Rare Groove Monger Jonathan
	Keith	-Indianapolis	-The Rotavator Returns Flash
	Gordon	-Cincinnati	-Back From Germany w/ Frankfort Sound

-30K of Surround Sound by "Sound-O-Mighty" -Computer Generated Visual
Projections by "Mighty Pixel" -Intellabeams and Cyber Lighting from the
creators of "Gridlock"/Sight&Sound Inc -"Free Form" Strobes, Mind Machines,
Hallucination Simulators -Full Smart Bar, Soft Drink Fountain, Orange Juice,
Smacck Snacks, Body Painting -Expanded Art Showcase, Complete Security
Provided.
Sponsored and Supported by these Underground Dwellers:  -Urb Magazine - Los Angeles		-Pervert Clothing
	-J2					-Get Smart: USA
	-ImSmartRU				-Boink?
	-SmilEE					-M&M&M

Ticket Information - $8 Adv/$10 @ Door:
	-Muncie:	Sight & Sound, 900 W. McGalliard, 317.289.8526
	-Indianapolis	Future Shock, 809 Broad Ripple Ave. 317.251.6957
			Digital Waves, SR 135 in Greenwood, 317.889.0191
	-Cincinnati	Avalon, 230 W. McMillan, (Clifton)  513.651.3847
	-Dayton		Stigmata, 519 E. 5th St.   513.222.5800
	-Columbus, OH	World Records, 1980 N. High St.,    614.297.7900

On Sept. 16th, meet at La Bamba Restaraunt, 1609 West University Ave. in

the Ball State University Village, Muncie, Indiana to get a map to the venue.

                    La Bamba is a map point only.
    Muncie is about 40 minutes North of Indianapolis on I-69 (exit 41).
 
	  24 Hr. Information numbers for updates on the Party
		-Groovus Maximus Bassline:	317.281.3000
		-Undergound Pipeline:		317.579.3053
		-SIN Line:			317.895.4546
		-Human Interaction available @  317.288.MARS

             Crazy Props to those who've supported in peace and 
                           Rave 4 the Phuture
                        "Don't Sink, Think Pink"


17-18 SEPTEMBER fri & sat 	NEW PONTIAC MI		PROJECT X

Off the Record and Clutch Cargo's Present

PROJECT X WEEKEND

Friday - September 17			Saturday - September 18

	(Main)					(Main)
	KEOKI					DIMITRY (of Deee-Lite)
	PAUL VanDYKE				PAUL VanDYKE
	DAT					GUMBO (Live Performance)
	Mark McConnell				BUTCH
						   plus
	(Saroki)				ROMEO GIGLI fashion show
	Brian & Paris
						(Saroki)
	(Crunch)				LIFE RAFT by JUICY FRUIT
	Rainmaker				record release
	Jon Williams				   with 
	Greg Campbell				JOHN ACQUAVIVA
						D. WYNN
	WE ARE ONE by KEOKI
	record release

HOSTED by JULIE JEWELS

At Industry, 15 S. Saginaw, New Pontiac, MI 313.334.1999
18 & over - doors at 9pm - Tix $7
(After parties until 6am)


18 SEPTEMBER sat	between MILWAUKEE and CHICAGO		MIDEON

Drop Bass Network & fourty three d studios bring you to

M     M   I   DDD    EEEE    OO   N   N
MM   MM   I   D  D   E      O  O  NN  N
M M M M   I   D  D   EE     O  O  N N N
M  M  M   I   D  D   E      O  O  N  NN
M     M   I   DDD    EEEEE   OO   N   N

On the night of september eighteenth, nineteen ninty three
Drop Bass Network in conjunction with fourty three d studios bring you to
MIDEON

Bringing two cities together to a spot convenient for Milwaukee and beyond.
Move your body on two seperate dance floors

TERRY MULLAN
	Mystic Bill
		HYPERACTIVE
			Miles Maeda
				EFEX
					Tony Garcia
						MR. BILL
							Davey Dave

HARDCORE/TRANCE/Acid/House

The house nation will not be stopped - 430 - hardcore will never die -
DROP BASS

info lines:	414.256.1733
		414.777.3998
		312.509.4902
		608.258.0003
		414.548.1973


25 SEPTEMBER sat		MADISON			BIOFUNK

Gravity's BIOFUNK

   Beyond the Valley of the Humongous Funk-us

	SATURDAY, SEPT. 25  --  MADISON, WISCONSIN


with:

Terry Mullan - St. Louis
Hyperactive - Chicago
Mystic Bill - Chicago
Mind Drive - Madison
Mr. E - San Fancisco
Kevin Wilk-e - Madison
Efex - Chicago

go mental in the agro zone & dip your soul deep in to the groove in the
  FUNKY TRIBAL VILLAGE
body and stress reducing MIND BOXES and psychic vibrator machines
 chill out in the ambient touch-e feel-e osmosis resurrection lounge
soul energizing space age vitamin INTELLI-BAR by dr. ribe o'flavour
 divine love vibes provided by erotishock
massive video overstimulation by e.2.speed
 forbidden cosmic fruit market
an all out bass bumpin, booty shakin, bell bottom bonanza

608-258-0003	312-792-6152	414-256-1733

Props to:  Drop Bass Network, Ripe, Sense, Boum, No One (Seattle), Kind
           Project, the Cardinal, Global Underworld Network...


25 SEPTEMBER			 ?		 	JUNGLE BEAT

Sept. 93		11pm

The JUNGLE BEAT

Leave your whistle, bring a drum

POD productions

September twenty-fifth		11 o'clock

Starring in order - DJs - of appearance

Erich
			- an outdoor tribal gathering
DAT
			- sound and lighting by elite enterprises
Mike Huckaby
			- props to L.C.P. and definitive - get smart USA
David Alvarado
			- from family groove in Los Angeles
Jetstream
			- 3d.  digital.dug.design


                |				|
                |	       I-94		|
	========+===============================+===================
		|				|
		|Woodward			|Mt. Elliot
		|	    Jefferson		|
	--------+---------------+---------------+-------------------
				|
				|Orleans
				|
				|X  (Globe Trading Center)
		----------------+---------------------------
			      Atwater


25 SEPTEMBER sat		ST.LOUIS		TRIBES OF UNITY
	
	hosted by M.A.R.S., call 314.995.6277

	DJs:
	Kevin Brock
	Merlin
	Jeff Feller
	Brad S.

	in a virgin city space just north of downtown:
	cheap juice bar
	free fruit
	gear 4 sale
	intelligent lights
	film loops


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MW-RAVES meetwhile-Raving List! 
   Issued THURSDAY, mail to:   mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu.... 
   This list consists of what everyone's doing for the upcoming 
   weekend. You should include where you'll be going, what you'll 
   be wearing, if you can offer rides/crash spaces, and any other 
   relevant information.
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MW-RAVES ARCHIVES!
  are maintained by Paul Madden (madden@anton.cvm.uiuc.edu)
  ftp to: pasteur.cvm.uiuc.edu  -or- 128.174.187.7
  cd into the directory 'mwr'           be nice and use it after hours
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DETROIT:
  The Underground INFO LINE           313.927.DAM1 (1515 stuff)
  VOOM                                313.433.2129
  Brainfish                           313.358.9882
  Ozone - Uniting Souls of the Night  313.746.9644
  loopin' in existance  - L.I.E.      313.901.5101

 Where to buy 12" in DETROIT
  RecordTime  25110 Gratiot Roseville MI  313.775.1550
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ST. LOUIS:
  Global Organization of Dance (GOOD) - do shows in St. Louis
  Find your info from Ultrasonic 1219 Washington St. Louis MO.
  AND: West End Wax, Vintage Vynal, Sound Revolution, and the Avalon
  DETAILS: (314) UDO-RAVE
  M.A.R.S: (314) 995.MARS

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W     E     E     K     L     Y         E     V     E     N     T     S
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ST. LOUIS       XODUS at OFF LIMITS New Ballwin Rd Manchester MO
		Sunday
ST. LOUIS       SECTOR 17 St Charles MO 314.230.2317  
                Wednesday-Saturday / 17up no alcohol               
CLEVELAND       SMART BAR 1575 Merwin Av 522.1575                 
		Wed (alt/techno) / Fri & Sat (techno/house) / always 19up
CLEVELAND       ALTER HOUSE / 1273 W 9th 781.4400
                Thu (acid/deep house) / Fri (alt) / Sat (whatever) / 18up
CLEVELAND       METROPOLIS 2325 Elm St 241.4007
                Sunday (the Church--hardcore/breakbeat--very cool!) / 18up
CINCINNATI      THE WAREHOUSE 1313 Vine St
                Wed 10-2 $2 / Thu 10-4 $2 (DJ Bob-A-Dob) / Fri 10-4 $3
 		Sat 10-4 $5
                Info: mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu or
                      ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
CINCINNATI      JIVE ALIVE at R-CLUB on Calhoun near UC campus
                Monday (DJs MINDCANDY & DAISY)
CHICAGO         FOXIES                 
                Tuesday (DJ Spencer Kinzey)
CHICAGO         RED DOG           
                Wednesday (DJ Diz)
CHICAGO		SHELTER	564 W Fulton
	 	Thu-Sat (DJs TOM E & JOHN CURLEY underground/groove house)
CHICAGO		CROBAR N Kingsbury near W North
		Thu-Sat (DJs PSYCHO BITCH & TERRY BRISTOL techno/house)
DAYTON          THE PALACE CLUB 2346 Grange Hall Rd Beavercreek
                Monday, Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday / 8-2 / 18up
DAYTON          1470 WEST 1470 W Dorothy La Kettering
                Thursday (techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DAYTON	        CITY LIGHTS 1721 N Main St N Dayton
                Sunday (underground/techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DETROIT         HEAVEN Woodward & 7mi
                Saturday
DETROIT         1515 Broadway 313.245.4785
                Saturday
DETROIT         INDUSTRY 15 S Saginaw at Pike Pontiac MI 313.334.1999
                Friday
MADISON		CARDINAL BAR 418 E Wilson
		Sat (DJ MIKE CARLSON) 9-2pm
		Sun 6-10 (acid jazz DJ MIKE CARLSON) 10-2 (DJ CYKO-PHUK)
MILWAUKEE       at NITRO 500 W Water St 414.356.1360
		Wednesday (DJs MR BILL, ACID BOY TODD P & TOBY TYLER)
MINNEAPOLIS     CHAOS
		Friday & Saturday (hardcore techno)
MINNEAPOLIS     at FIRST AVENUE
		Tue (techno/indust) / Wed (hardcore techno)
		Sat & Sun (best nights) / Sun (all ages)
MINNEAPOLIS     GLAM SLAM (Prince's club)   
		Friday / 21up
MINNEAPOLIS     SALOON
		Sunday & Thursday
MINNEAPOLIS     THE FORBIDDEN EDGE 407 W Lake St
		Thur (hip-hop) / Fri & Sat (techno) / Sun (hip-hop) / 8-12
LEXINGTON       THE VIRTUAL GALLERY
    		Friday & Saturday / 2.30-4am

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	dan      modE@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
		 danF@des.uwm.edu


Daniel James Frederiksen
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From gmk40719%uxa.cso.uiuc.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 14 19:48:29 1993
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In-Reply-To: <9309090031.AA00373@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu> from "Hossam A. El-Saie" at Sep 8, 93 08:31:32 pm
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> greg kus, your ignorance and stupidity frightens me...
      
      Am I ignorant?  
      Why are you afraid?

> ok...first of all, i dont remember _your_ name being among among the many
> who offered their services or support when i asked for it...now its "*our*
> own thing?!" oh, i forgot, you were going to do sound and lights for
> free...my bad.
>

      oh so sorry that I wasn't sleeping with my computer... sometimes
      i don't log on for a while.. well just to justify what I do
      since you seem to want that..... I am away from the Computer
      for a while and come back to see some posts about a MW_RAVE
      party.. with some replys.. then all of a sudden.. Genetix
      is doing the rave... Gee lots of time for me to say HI..
      second.. I live about 6 hours from Cinci... and more from Cleve.
      ... How often do you make it out to Champaign or Chicago????
	And unless the party is going to be over New Years, I     
	Probably won't be able to make it out there..... Maybe


 
> second, READ THE POST! its obvious you were on some sort of illicit
> substance when you first read it, because it clearly says, "your support,
       
       That is a bad judgement... maybe you are on illicit substances..
       but I am not.....

input, and encouragement is asked for and greatly appreciated."  and you
> complain about it's not _our_ rave anymore?! oh, excuse me...if you want to
> put up $5000 of your own money and risk (probably) losing all or most of
> it, go right ahead, mr. mcduck...
>
      Ok.. I guess it's not our rave... is it Yours?? maybe it is
      your rave.. I don't care who's rave it is... when I said 
      "ours" maybe I should have said "THE" would that have made
      any difference? nope... you would have been just as pissed off
      as you seem to be.



> >> you can email either john kohlstrand (aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu) or
> >> me to talk about the rave and give us suggestions/advice...we are taking
> >> care of most of the details here on this side of the border...
> >
> >this isn't an MWRAVE rave anymore..
> 
> people, i wont even reply to this idiotic remark, when the evidence is
> clearly in front of you...i'll let the intelligent ones make their own
> decision...
> 
>

	Do you have something personally involved that you take
	my post so damn seriously that you have to be so hostile?



> >> would like to throw this one mainly for the midwest and beyond...its your
>					                		  ^^^^

       it says your rave.. that is why i said Our rave.... blah blah blah
               ^^^^

>> rave, we got the cash, how do you want it spent? (genetix and its us
> >> partners reserve the right to ignore/turn down and suggestion offered..:)
> 
> and people, i know its bad taste to make flames public, but this is
> ridiculous...here i am, trying to change the scene here in n. central ohio,
> and help it out elsewhere, and this guy who doesnt even know me or what im
> about gives me this load of crap...i got nothing to hide...a lot of you
> know me well enuff to vouch for me and my intentions...ok?
>
         I don't know you but I don't think that you are some techno
	 god or prophet.... change it but don't stand on a corner and
	 flaunt it.. Did I give you a load of crap... I am entitled
	 to my own opinion. I read a bunch of posts starting with
	 your first one about doing a rave and then Genetix taking over
	 .....ok... I am pretty sure that you brought up the idea
	 of having an MW rave event right?? did you have genetix in mind
	 when you first brought up the idea of having a MWrave event?
	 just wondering...
B

> greg, you wanna discuss this and your problems with it, id be honored to
>                                       ^^^^^^^^
	I think you had a problem with my post/opinion....


explain myself more clearly to you via email...just dont go shooting off
> with six guns a blazin' next time, until you get your facts straight first,
> ok buddy?
>

	    And since this was posted to the group.. I will post
	    my response to the group.ok BUDDY....

> peace,
> hossam
> 
             Is it all about the VIBE???? 
	     I guess it's a bad vibe now.....
		Just chill man... don't take it sooooo personal

		My original post was to point out a FACT/Observation:

		1. All of YOU were talking about having a party organizing
		   it YOURself and everything else..
		2. A few posts later Genetix will do it for us with our
		   suggestions.. but whatever they say goes.....
				 --------------------------
				  Is that not a fact? then tell me..
		3. So I said.. it is not OUR party because of that..
		   the reason I said OUR.... is because I received
		   a message from YOU Hossam directed to the entire
		   group:    saying something to the effect OUR rave
		    YOUR IDEAS... etc.. 
		    so if you want to flame someone about making
		    supposedly false statements about facts..
		    Then look at your self flying off the handle.
		    I considered all the mail that I received and 
		    stated my opinion and what I PERCEIVED to be fact
		    its a genetix party.. I have nothing against
		    genetix... I hope it works out..

.too all others...

Sorry this is a long message.. and sorry I haven't been on the machine
for a week.
-Kus 
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gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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To: madden (Paul Madden)
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Hi Paul!  As you may know, I just joined Dr. Stahl's group.  Please set up my
file so that when I log off, my messages do not remain visible to the next
person to log on the computer.  Also, if you could set up or tell me how to set
up a file in order to save my opened mail.  I would also like to forward my
mail from my previous address.  Thank you! 

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... Hey anyone pick up or receive any flyers for "Ravers from Space"
by Core innovations in chicago??? just wondering if they are having a party
coming up or not.. Let me know.
.. I have a question.. How many people on here go to a lot or even a 
few chicago events??? seems like some big populations of Ohio/Kentucky
residents... 
-
Peace=
Kus


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From: Seth L Sanders <feste@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Subject: Re: XDZebra Review #36
To: Pete Ashdown <pashdown@slack.sim.es.com>
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> 7  160	05:17 Sythadelic: I'm A Secretary
> 2  144	04:50 Oversize Pussy: Orange
> 1  129	Liquid Insects
> 1  115	Mountain Goat

I'm digging it.
seth s


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From: "Andrew J. Ford" <andy@howdy.wustl.edu>
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YES it's that time again: i'm sending out free small xeroxed
booklets full of dance music reviews jus' cuz i wish i coulda had it htis
good two years ago!

for the latest copy of base ten (pronounced "base 12")
(just out today) send a 
stamp and a nice letter and some candy and some old
records you don't want anymore and ... (jus kiddin)
just send a stamp and an address 
to:

andy
727 Syracuse Ave 
Apt. 1N
University City , MO 63130

pleez note: i have no financial interest in this zine
i jus wanna do my part to help stop the "secret record society"
from holding back great labels and artists!

andy@howdy.wustl.edu
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>From the cyberdeck of Andrew J. Ford...
[...]
::pleez note: i have no financial interest in this zine
::i jus wanna do my part to help stop the "secret record society"
::from holding back great labels and artists!

COOL!  I'm always into the latest conspiracy theory.  Fill us in.


				       o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
								 steve j white
						    aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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just out of simple curousity, did anybody say any thing about what happened in
lafayette.  I was wondering how it might have compare to some other events.
talking with one of the people that helped put it together, he said there
were more people then expected.  Did any body out there go?

johnw

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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Gregory M. Kus" <gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
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... Hey anyone pick up or receive any flyers for "Ravers from Space"
by Core innovations in chicago??? just wondering if they are having a party
coming up or not.. Let me know.
.. I have a question.. How many people on here go to a lot or even a 

few chicago events??? seems like some big populations of Ohio/Kentucky
residents... 

-
Peace=
Kus

----

Ravers from space is on september 25th (the same night as BIOFUNK with SOD) it is
with James Johnson, Phil Of Free Art, Josh Werner, and Miles Meada.  So in  
otherwords it will be the same as the last core innovations "rave" (it had the same  
4 dj's)....personally I would rather go to BIOFUNK or even the hardcore junkies  
party which is the same night - at any rate the number to call is 312-604-1674 if  
you want to or something

Oh and if your calling voice mails call mine @312-509-2969 or 313-358-9872 or  
414-777-3969 just for the hell of it at anyrate

--Kurt

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Please, no flames for mentioning a "top 40" artist but I really like the 
new album "debut".  I dont know what the *label* is for this kind of music...
I think that's why I like it so much.  Anyway how do y'all technoids feel?


-- 
Bill Frain
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cuwpf@uxa.bgu.edu                                         --Slayer

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1993, Golden Boy wrote:

> Hey kidz...Golden Boy here...just wanted to say that it wuz phun hangin 
> with you guyz last week before the Smart Bar spin fest.  You too Hossam :)  
> But hey...was that corridor in that store 'Wildflower' the wildest shit 
> you've ever seen or what !  With the candlez and alter and water fall...
> sorta makez you wonder, ehh ?!
> 
> In A Wave Of Peace.

Yeah, that was some wicked shit. Hey, I had a good time hangin out with
you. I'm sure we will be back up sometime soon.
				   Joe	



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Hey kidz...Golden Boy here...just wanted to say that it wuz phun hangin 
with you guyz last week before the Smart Bar spin fest.  You too Hossam :)  
But hey...was that corridor in that store 'Wildflower' the wildest shit 
you've ever seen or what !  With the candlez and alter and water fall...
sorta makez you wonder, ehh ?!

In A Wave Of Peace.

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From: "Andrew J. Ford" <andy@howdy.wustl.edu>
Subject: re: free zine!
To: NoneOfTheAbove <aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu>
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On Wed, 15 Sep 1993, NoneOfTheAbove wrote:

> >From the cyberdeck of Andrew J. Ford...
> [...]
> ::pleez note: i have no financial interest in this zine
> ::i jus wanna do my part to help stop the "secret record society"
> ::from holding back great labels and artists!
> 
> COOL!  I'm always into the latest conspiracy theory.  Fill us in.
> 
> 
> 				       o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
> 								 steve j white
> 						    aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

hi steve
i jus' mean the djs who try to keep their records secret from other
people...

andy@howdy.wustl.edu
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> 
> just out of simple curousity, did anybody say any thing about what happened in
> lafayette.  I was wondering how it might have compare to some other events.
> talking with one of the people that helped put it together, he said there
> were more people then expected.  Did any body out there go?
> 
> johnw
> 

That's right.  Lafayette, IN.  I don't know if this place will be the next
Cleveland, but something's stirring.  

First of all, let me introduce myself.  I tried this once before, but I think
mw-rave's machine didn't like what I had to say.  My name is Jay Wells.  I'm
currently a sophomore in the school of Science here at Purdue.  I'm about
5'8" with short brown hair and if you see me at a rave, I'll probably have my
headlight on--don't be ashamed to say hello!  I'm turning 19 tomorrow(I      
don't mind getting birthday mail--hint,hint :)  I hail from Pittsburgh 
originally(props to Joe LeSesne and Mike B.  You guys deserve medals!). 

When I got here last year, this place was dry.  Everyone went to Chicago for
the weekend.  Then the Asian American Student club threw a little rave.  Of 
all, I think that was the best vibe I've ever felt, because ordinary students
were coming together in one happy mess and moving to the beat.  I'd say 200
people came to their first event.  After that, there were 2 more, but not very
successful.  

Then a friend of mine and I threw a party called tootsie bop.  We djed(we suck)
used the residence hall radio equipment, did our own lights, video projection;
I even mixed up some smart drinks(well, not really--I ran to GNC the night 
before, bought a huge canister of Amino-Blow 5000(whatever)...the rest is 
history).  About 60-70 people showed.

But this year, Sho Kuwamoto and his roommate, Jay, must have been working 
overtime to produce Zap!  They are the real scenesters here.  The lights were 
incredible, the sound was massive, and the vibe was terrific.  Location     
couldn't be better.  Right down the road from campus in this big 'ol warehouse.
My crew got there at 11 and I started exploring--There was the main floor:
It was hardcore 'till 12:30, then Sho did a good breakbeat set.  After that,
more hardcore 'till 2 when it got kind of trancey.  There was another dj doing
deep house all night on another floor behind the main area.  They were        
projecting the usual Mind's Eye, etc, plus this cartoon about an elf with a
cone head.  I really liked the elf cartoon.  

Other than a smart drink stand and those guys with nitrous in the back, there
were no real extras.  I like the fact that the organizers concentrated on the
important stuff(djs, sound, lights) before the extras, because they did the 
important stuff really well.  

I could go on about the people who came(I estimated 500 there at one point),
the djs(Thanks for coming down, Todd P!), or how when we got thirsty we'd run
across the street to the county capital building and fill up our bottles.  I'd
rather let someone who helped with the thing respond(Sho?).

That's my scoop on Zap!  And my intro.  If you are ever in the Lafayette area, 
look me up.  I'll find you a place to crash if needs be.



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Good morning everyone! Here's this weeks list.. Geesh did I have to dig
for most of the 'dope'.. Here ya goes in no certain order! Have fun kids!
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Boris Feldman: (bfeldman@students.wisc.edu)

i'll probably be going to Mideon from Madison and have  room in my car
but would rather  get  a ride

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Sascha: (sal@iti.org)

Actually, I'll probably have to go to this (Planet X) on Sat. anyway, because
one of my best friends works at the salon that is in charge of the fashion
show.  Besides, I haven't seen any info regarding other events in the area for
this weekend (hint, hint.... :)  Well, gotta run.

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floyd aragon: (00FLARAGON%leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu)

see ya at Pinks Party on the 16th and 17th right here in Muncie 
cheese and onions --- floyd (not pink)

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Gregory M. Kus: (No address on file)

 I'll be in chicago this weekend... I'm not sure where I am going
 but I'll be at something Saturday.. Maybe Core Innovations..
 Friday --- I might hang at home..

 if you live up in chicago and might be somewhere, gimme a call before
 you leave..
 708.969.5683   --- Greg

 Later---Diagonal  is supposed to be having a free event soon???
 any info? 
 peace
 -Kus

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There you have it kids.. Early edition! If you have ANYTHING to add
PLEASE, Send it too me!! Remember it's mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu and
if it hasn't been changed on the mwraves list, please change it! Oh 'nother
thing I want to add! DJ's: Send me info where you will be and then people
will come see you!! Great way to advertise yerself!  
Send me mail before Saturday @ 5pm to be posted with the rest!  Thanx all!
                                  /     /\
                                \/ohnny \\uest

J. Quest is:
mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu

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Subject: re: this weekend(?)
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>From the cyberdeck of Sascha A. Linn...

::=============================================================================
::
::Sept. 93		11pm
::
::The JUNGLE BEAT
::
::Leave your whistle, bring a drum
::
::POD productions
::
::September twenty-fifth		11 o'clock
::
::Starring in order - DJs - of appearance
::
::Erich
::			- an outdoor tribal gathering
::DAT
::			- sound and lighting by elite enterprises
::Mike Huckaby
::			- props to L.C.P. and definitive - get smart USA
::David Alvarado
::			- from family groove in Los Angeles
::Jetstream
::			- 3d.  digital.dug.design
::
::
::                |				|
::                |	       I-94		|
::	========+===============================+===================
::		|				|
::		|Woodward			|Mt. Elliot
::		|	    Jefferson		|
::	--------+---------------+---------------+-------------------
::				|
::				|Orleans
::				|
::				|X  (Globe Trading Center)
::		----------------+---------------------------
::			      Atwater
::
::
::=============================================================================

When is this happening and what city?


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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Melissa and I will be going to Mideon, the Drop Bass thingy for Milwaukee
and Chicago areas.  Who KNOWS where it'll be.  Those Drop Bass guys are so
bloody clever.  Anyway, if ya need a ride we can't help much 'cause our car
is a two-seater but we might be able to hook you up with someone nearby or
something.  We already have Boris crashing here but we've got LOTS of
floor-space so let us know if our services are needed.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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Subject: MW-Raves Staff Update...
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Here is the updated list, with the assigned corrections, and additions (getting
kind of lengthy, isn't it?)  Please mail additional corrections to me with the
subject: "MW-Raves Staff corrections"

Rave on, 
Wally

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"I think I feel a seizure coming on..."            |
"heh, heh, yeah, either slow down, or shut up..."  | Why would Parke-Davis
-Beavis and Butthead,                              | want me to say anything
   on the Shamen's "Ebeneezer Goode"               | on their behalf?
                                                   |   
Paul Wehr:  Wehrp@aa.wl.com                        |
Ann Arbor, MI                                      |
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Net-name:      Mike Brown
Name:          Mike Brown
Address:       mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    Ohio State University Admissions
               Used record store
Current home:  Columbus?
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       DJ's "Ambient & Trippy

Net-name:      Hossam
Name:          Hossam El-Saie
Address:       hae2@po.cwru.edu
Age:           21
Education:     Case Western Reserve, Cleveland, OH
               4th year, management
Employment:
Current home:  Cleveland?
Pre-Univ home: Egypt
Special:       offers club discounts (Free?!), given
               sufficient notice

Net-name:      E
Name:          Elod Horvath
Address:       horvath@cs.purdue.edu
Age:           24
Education:     Purdue University,
               graduate student, Computer sciences
Employment:    Purdue University,
               Research Assistant
Current Home:  Lafayette, IN
Pre-Univ home: South Bend, IN
Special:       Lurker

Net-name:      J. Quest
Name:          Mike J Butler
Address:       mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu
Age:           
Education:     
Employment:              
Current Home:  "Near Cincinnati" (513)-844-6322
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      marmoset
Name:          Dave Walker
Address:       marmoset@garnet.msen.com
Age:           
Education:     University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
               English
Employment:    Detroit Art Services
               Network Support Specialist
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Ecorse, MI
Special:       
Net-name:      Andrew
Name:          Andrew Bennett
Address:       abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu
Age:           
Education:     Miami University, Oxford OH
Employment:    Cap Gemini America - Consulting
Current Home:  Cincinnati
Pre-Univ home: Cincinnati
Special:       

Net-name:      Wally
Name:          Paul Wehr
Address:       wehrp@aa.wl.com
Age:           25
Education:     University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
               Math education
Employment:    Parke-Davis/Warner-Lambert
               Clinical Applications Programmer
Current Home:  Ann Arbor
Pre-Univ home: Ann Arbor
Special:       Able to provide airplane-pool to MW raves.

Net-name:      SpeedHacker
Name:          Eric Iverson
Address:       eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Age:           
Education:     Wayne State University, Detroit MI
               Art
Employment:    Wayne State University
               Programmer, Graphic design
Current Home:  Detroit
Pre-Univ home: Detroit
Special:       Member of Ex Machina

Net-name:      Tekknodog
Name:          Joshua L. Mayfield
Address:       mayfiej@ucunix.san.uc.edu
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    Musician
Current Home:  Cincinnati, OH
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       member of DST (December's Second Tear)

Net-name:      Robert
Name:          Robert Smith
Address:       rob.smith@jci.com
               lzrjx@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
Age:           25
Education:     
Employment:    Automotive Design
Current Home:  Ann Arbor, MI
Pre-Univ home: Michigan
Special:       DJ booking agency
Net-name:      astroboy
Name:          Andy
Address:       andy@howdy.wustl.edu
Age:           
Education:     Washington University, St. Louis
               Astrophysics
               North Carolina State
               Physics
Employment:    
Current Home:  North Carolina
Pre-Univ home: Cleveland, Raleigh NC
Special:       Veg-o-matic, Spins techno, house.

Net-name:      
Name:          Michael Dvorkin
Address:       michaeld@comm.mot.com
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  DesPlaines, IL
Pre-Univ home: Russia, England, Chicago
Special:       

Net-name:      Colin
Name:          Colin Evans
Address:       dn279@cleveland.freenet.edu
Age:           18
Education:     Kalamazoo, MI
Employment:    Graphic design
               computer animation
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Lansing, MI
Special:       

Net-name:      Tino
Name:          James Constantino
Address:       constant@ecn.purdue.edu
Age:           23
Education:     Purdue University, Lafayette, IN
               Graduate, Nuclear Engineering
Employment:    Nuclear Engineer - Chicago
Current Home:  Chicago/Lafayette, IN
Pre-Univ home: St. Louis/Lafayette/Paris
Special:       

Net-name:      cmellow
Name:          Chris Mellow
Address:       cmellow@moose.uvm.edu
               cmellow@aol.com
Age:           
Education:     Universiy of Vermont
               2nd year, Philosophy
Employment:    
Current Home:  Vermont?
Pre-Univ home: Detroit area
Special:       MW-Rave-Badge promoter
Net-name:      
Name:          Sho Kuwamoto
Address:       sho@physics.purdue.edu
Age:           23
Education:     Purdue University
               Graduate, physics
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Lafayette, IN?
Special:       

Net-name:      dieselBoy
Name:          Damian Higgins
Address:       damian@cislabs.pitt.edu
Age:           
Education:     University of Pittsburgh
               Information Science
Employment:    Pittsburgh computer lab
               Computer consultant
Current Home:  Pittsburgh?
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       DJ's breakbeat, and other techno
               contact: 412-682-0911

Net-name:      acid boy todd p
Name:          Craig Garret Johnson
Address:       poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu
               raveman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Age:           24
Education:     University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
               Computer science
Employment:    Innovative Record Source
Current Home:  Milwaukee Wisconsin
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       DJ's hard-trance/trance-core 414-225-9397

Net-name:      Kus
Name:          Greg Kus
Address:       gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Age:           21
Education:     University of Illinois
Employment:    Student
Current Home:  Champaign, IL
Pre-Univ home: Downer's Grove, IL
Special:       217-328-9671 or 217-328-6952 or 217-328-6839

Net-name:      BlackCat
               RaveCat
Name:          Kevin M Jones
Address:       kmjone00@ukpr.uky.edu
Age:           24
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  Cincinatti
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       
Net-name:      Kohlstrand
Name:          Kohlstrand
Address:       aa2243@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu
Age:           
Education:     Bowling Green State
Employment:    Elyria Newspaper
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Brownstown, MI (down-river Detroit)
Special:       Spins at Oberlin College (216-329-7131)

Net-name:      raver909
Name:          Joe LeSesne
Address:       raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us
Age:           21
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  4014 Stilwell St, Pittsburgh, PA 15214
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       records under 187

Net-name:      Mike Goller
               cygnusx1
Name:          Mike Goller
Address:       mgoller@uceng.uc.edu
Age:           
Education:     4th year? Industrial Engineering
Employment:    
Current Home:  Cincinnati
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      Sascha
Name:          Sascha Linn
Address:       sal@iti.org
Age:           23
Education:     Mechanical Engineering
               Math/Physics
Employment:    
Current Home:  Ann Arbor MI
Pre-Univ home: Detroit, Ann Arbor MI
Special:       

Net-name:      mike
Name:          Mike
Address:       mikes@eta.rice.edu (may change...)
Age:           22
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  Chicago
Pre-Univ home: Houston
Special:       DJ's breakbeat as 'snugglez'
Net-name:      katwoman, kathleenthemop, kaffeen, kaffeena
Name:          Kathleen Harris
Address:       kharris@antioc.antioch.edu
Age:           26
Education:     
Employment:    Research in artifical blood
Current Home:  Yellow Springs, OH
Pre-Univ home: Suburb of Lansing
Special:       

Net-name:      Alex Sharifi
Name:          Alexeyovich Alidad Sharifi Fardi
Address:       sharifi@emunix.emich.edu
Age:           
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  Ann Arbor?
Pre-Univ home: Baton Rouge, La Jolla, Ann Arbor
Special:       

Net-name:      Jen
Name:          Jen Thomas
Address:       thomas%epidat.decnet@wigate.nic.wisc.edu
Age:           28
Education:     University of Wisconsin - Madison
               zoology
Employment:    Health sciences
               Data management - research study
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       BW photography, film/video

Net-name:      Q
Name:          Matthew S Macqueen
Address:       macqueen@student.msu.edu
Age:           22
Education:     Michigan State University
               4th year - English
Employment:    
Current Home:  East Lansing?
Pre-Univ home: Kalamazoo
Special:       DJ - chill-out

Net-name:      StevenJ
Name:          Steve White
Address:       aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Age:           
Education:     University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
               political science and peace studies
Employment:    Jobs with peace
               President
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       Melissa's SO

Net-name:      Candyman
Name:          Al Kolman 
Address:       alk@pnet51.orb.mn.org
Age:           23
Education:     St. Mary's College, Winona, MN
               Computer science/math
Employment:    HealthOne Information Services,
               Problem Management Analyst
Current Home:  Woodbury, MN
Pre-Univ home: St. Paul, MN
Special:       local theatre and music connections

Net-name:      Wally  <-- Name alert...
Name:          Walter David Michael
Address:       wmichael@emunix.emich.edu
Age:           21
Education:     Eastern Michigan University, Ypsilanti
               Biochemistry
Employment:    Parke-Davis/Warner-Lambert
               Co-Op Student Neurodegenerative Diseases
Current Home:  Ypsilanti
Pre-Univ home: Oberlin, Ohio
Special:       neuromodulators,explosives....

Net-name:      Tom
Name:          Thomas C Butcher
Address:       tb37+@andrew.cmu.edu
Age:           19?
Education:     Carnegie-Mellon University, Pittsburgh
               Electrical and Computer Engineering
Employment:    
Current Home:  Pittsburgh?
Pre-Univ home: Houston?
Special:       Member of 'Induction', runs independent label

Net-name:      Brent
Name:          Brent
Address:       p00331@psilink.com
Age:           23
Education:     DeVry Technical Institute
Employment:    Sterling Software
Current Home:  Columbus, OH
Pre-Univ home: Columbus, OH?
Special:       self-employed: MicroSolved, PC supplier, consulting

Net-name:      SPeCiMeN/SelEktOR
Name:          Andy
Address:       ndc@engin.umich.edu
Age:           20?
Education:     University of Michigan
               Computer Science
Employment:    
Current Home:  Ann Arbor, MI
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       MW-Raves Admin, DJ-acid, trance,
               Ann Arbor micro-rave 313-663-4360

Net-name:      Melissa
Name:          Melissa J. Musante
Address:       melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Age:           
Education:     University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
               Theatre/Film
Employment:    
Current Home:  Milwaukee
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       StevenJ's SO

Net-name:      nivEk
Name:          Kevin Frey
Address:       kevfrey@siucvmb.siu.edu
Age:           
Education:     
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      Sasha
Name:          Mary Koster
Address:       randy@anywhere.umd.edu
Age:           19
Education:     Unnamed community college
               Art
Employment:    
Current Home:  Maryland/Lexington, KY
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      benji
Name:          Benji
Address:       sbg6623@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Age:           not 12
Education:     Oberlin, OH
Employment:    
Current Home:  Maryland/Lexington, KY
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      Sinister
Name:          Chuck
Address:       ctakacs@andy.bgsu.edu
Age:           
Education:     Bowling Green?
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      Bill Frain
Name:          William Frain
Address:       cuwpf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Age:           23
Education:     East Central Illinois
               Botany (et. al.)
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      
Name:          Floyd Aragon
Address:       ooflaragon%leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu
Age:           20?
Education:     Ball State University
               Freshman
Employment:    
Current Home:  Muncie IN
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      Dan
Name:          
Address:       mode@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Age:           23
Education:     University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee?
               International relations/german studies
Employment:    
Current Home:  Milwaukee?
Pre-Univ home: 
Special:       

Net-name:      Ahab
Name:          Chris Hawley
Address:       chawley@andy.bgsu.edu
Age:           
Education:     Bowling Green
Employment:    
Current Home:  
Pre-Univ home: Chelsea, MI
Special:       Radio DJ

Net-name:      Jay
Name:          Jay Wells
Address:       soysos@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Age:           19
Education:     Purdue
               School of science sophomore
Employment:    
Current Home:  Laffayette?
Pre-Univ home: Pittsburgh
Special:       



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Hey,

  This is for people form Chicago:

     Do you know of any events this weekend....?

  Any help would be appreciated...



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From: Eric <EIVERSO@CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU>
Subject:      re: this weekend(?)
To: StevenJ <aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu>,
        MidWest rave list <mw-raves@engin.umich.edu>,
        mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu
In-Reply-To:  Your message of Fri, 17 Sep 1993 07:33:59 -0500 (CDT)
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>From the cyberdeck of Sascha A. Linn...
>::Sept. 93		11pm
>::The JUNGLE BEAT
>::Leave your whistle, bring a drum
>::POD productions
>::September twenty-fifth		11 o'clock
>::Starring in order - DJs - of appearance
>::Erich
>::			- an outdoor tribal gathering
>::DAT
>::			- sound and lighting by elite enterprises
>::Mike Huckaby
>::			- props to L.C.P. and definitive - get smart USA
>::David Alvarado
>::			- from family groove in Los Angeles
>::Jetstream
>::			- 3d.  digital.dug.design
>::
>::                |				|
>::                |	       I-94		|
>::	========+===============================+===================
>::		|				|
>::		|Woodward			|Mt. Elliot
>::		|	    Jefferson		|
>::	--------+---------------+---------------+-------------------
>::				|
>::				|Orleans
>::				|
>::				|X  (Globe Trading Center)
>::		----------------+---------------------------
>::			      Atwater

>When is this happening and what city?

I believe it has the date listed above :)
the 25th.
And I recognize the streets as being in Detroit.

However if anybody is in Detroit this weeked (9/17-9/19)
be sure to drop by the Festival of the Arts during the day
in the city's Cultural Center (my backyard) located on
and west of Woodward in Wayne's campus north of Warren ave
and south of I-94. I'll be wearing sunglasses, black slacks,
a black jacket if it's cold & a white t-shirt (maybe says DOMAiN),
I got medium length brown hair, I'm very skinny, and I'm tall, tho
not as tall as John Kohlstrand. :) Walk up & say hi. Act casually
or I may pretend not to know what you're talking about...or I may
try to attack you. :-)

--Eric  ...:::(  P  E  E  d  h  A  C  k  E  |)  eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
        ...::::)                            |\  ex_machina@umich.edu

"There lies my problem ... I've not heard enough Ex Machina" Steve Quigg

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pleez note: i have no financial interest in this zine
i jus wanna do my part to help stop the "secret record society"
from holding back great labels and artists!

andy@howdy.wustl.edu
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 hear hear!  That's a great idea, I applaud you!!

Chris

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hey anybody in the chicago area that is driving to mideon please let me know
i'd like to hitch a ride... give me a call at 708-733-8240

thanks

yours,m


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To: cuwpf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (William Frain)
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Previously, William Frain said:
> 
> Please, no flames for mentioning a "top 40" artist but I really like the 
> new album "debut".  I dont know what the *label* is for this kind of music...
> I think that's why I like it so much.  Anyway how do y'all technoids feel?

I like Bjork. There are some great mixes that you can use on her 12".  I
mean I knwo a lot of people who use her stuff. ANd to get into the funky
stuff, Jon Drukman uses Madonna's deeper and deeper. 

c

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No.. I won't be in chicago this weekend..
Sept 18.. Sorry.. I'm down in champaign..
if you are there gimme a call.. 217-328-9671

-Kus


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Begin forwarded message:

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 12:27:04 CDT
From: michaeld@ecs.comm.mot.com (Michael Dvorkin)
To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Subject: EVENTS_THIS_WEEKEND




Hey,

  This is for people form Chicago:

     Do you know of any events this weekend....?

  Any help would be appreciated...

******************

There is Mideon which is somewheres between mil. and chicago and
there is an after hours @ 1801 W. Division on saturday

--Kurt

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Where are our intentions going?  what are we evolving into and why; and who as 

members of these list asserting ourselves as.  


What happens to families as time moves on and as the framilarity of each other
and the common ground between the becomes defunct?  How is it that they stay
togther and not disentigrate with the passage of time.

The topic of rave, techno, house, etc....are inherantly limited - 

and by limiting ourselves to these topics we are limiting the true potenitonal
of our community.

We are a community - by joining these lists your are a part of what goes on 

between us - we all have our peeves and hangups - likes and dislikes of the
members of the lists but we have joined in a common ground.

As a community we have the ability to learn, experince, and devlop ourselves as
human beings.  As a community we should not limit ourselves to discussions of
one topic - when their is literally a whole world of information and stuff
out there that thouches each and every one of our lives - and the needs to
be disscussed, explored, expanded upon, learn.

Rave is not only the party. For those of you who belive that rave is only for
8 hours a week on saturday night, you are missing the most beautiful point 

of rave.  Rave is a philosophy, it takes the feeling of unity we experince
in a vibe filled room - and shows us what the world could become - it 

becomes a part of our daily lives and (at least for me) has changed EVERY
aspect of how I live, act, and treat others.

It is nessecary to examine the everyday world within the context of the 

philosophy that we are forming - without that - rave dies - it is no longer
something special - it is something to do, much like doing laundry.

We here are the cutting edge - we have the potentioal to develop a new style
of living - a new relationship with the world that can, and if done
will utlimatley lead to the changing of social structure within the world.

To achive these ends we mustn't limit ourselves - we mustn't stifle
the potentoal we have - but rather examine and devlop
our methods of thinking to better them, and better the world.  Examine,
and then act - working towards a vibe filled world cannot hurt - even if
this community only touches one living soul into betterment then we have 

achived.


this is us, this is now - here is the world - see it change - devlop + 

envelop it into you belive is correct.

--Kurt

P.S. Did you ever think you would see Rabin and Arrifat shake hands?  I wept
when I saw that - a beautiful moment - we have the ability to make more of
these moments happen; we just have to try and move slowly - developing our
philosophy and allowing it to touch those who surround us.


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From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie)
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friends,


anyone go to this one?
ive met dave hollands and i think he would put on a pretty nice event and
deliver on his claims...anyone confirm/deny?  but thursday night? how big a
non-local audience can you draw on a weeknight? hmmmm....




peace,
hossam

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REVIEW OF FRIDAY'S  "PROJECT - X" in NewPontiac (and subsequent post-parties)

I was wary of this kind of "club" thing to begin with, I know, it was at
 INDUSTRY  in NewPontiac, near Detroit.  But the bottom line for me was, there
 were no other events in Detroit for the weekend, and I needed to dance BAD.
 ANd once I saw the list of DJ's, I figured it would be pretty good.  It was.
As promised there were "post-parties" until 6 (?) am.

I arrived with friends at INDUSTRY around 11:30pm.  Apparently the doors opened
much earlier, the place was absoultely *packed*.  THere were 2 DJ's playing at
that time, one on the main floor, and one in that back-upstairs bar type room.
(Is it called the SAROKI room?)  Anyway, KEOKI and PaulVanDyke, DAT, and Mark
McConnell took over the main floor (I think) and Paris spun in the back room.
The back room was cool, great hardcore, but not loud enough. . . I think that
no-one knew about him way back there.  So aside from the local cheese and
"cowboy" and "cowgirl" dance types, the vibe was excellent for a club.  No
horrible drunks, almost everyone was dancing - including a couple that were at
least 50 years old (cool!)  :)   It was cool to be in an area bathed in superb
lighting, intellibeams, etc.  Outstanding light show.  The music was
spectacular, not the usual club "Rave Till Dawn" C.D. selections, it was all
Plus 8 records kind of stuff; hardcore, acid and a little trance.
      Well, what sucked was that, being a club, they had to turn everyone out
on the streets at 2am, but I met this guy named John Santos who asked me to
this after-party down the block.  It took them awhile to set everything back
up, but it was the same crowd, except the cheese was filtered out.

The location was fresh, it was in the basement of this coffee joint/pizza place
called "KODZO" or "KORTO" or something like that.  THey really got going ther
at like 3:30 or so, inredible sets.  DJ DIMITRI (who will be playing tonight,
Saturday, at INDUSTRY) was rumored to be there, but I never found out if he was
spinning or not.,  The crack up was that the DJ's were in the kitchen, in
another room, so we couldn't see them except throught the thin little shelf
window where you get your pizza  :)  :)   I love to see the DJ's spin, but oh
well.  SOmeone set up a smart bar, and a red "cop" light.  It was plenty amped
too.

I was totally exhausted by about 5:30, and needed to drive back to Michigan
State, so we took off, but it was still going strong, with at least 60 people
or so in this small basement.  DIdn't see cops all night  :)   :)

I was wearing my MW-RAVES badge and suprised to see *NO* other net-ravers
there.  I HIGHLY HIGHLY reccomend going tonight, Sat, for part 2.
If you hate the club scene, just go to the after party, it was phat as hell.
And hell, go to see the fantastic DJ's and never mind the location.  Tonight
features:

DJ DIMITRI, GUMBO, BUTCH, some fashion show (groan), and juicy fruit.  "with"
John Acquaviva and D. Wynn, whatever that means, I'm not certain they'll be
spinning, but why would they name them on the flyer then?

Were any net-ravers there?  [plug here:]---->  get a badge if you want to meet
people  :)  :)

"t h e m u s i c w a s f a n t a s t i c"

I'm out _________________________Q.______________________________________

h  i  t  t  i  n'     s  w  i  t  c  h  e  s

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From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie)
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i need to get a hold of him... the agent for dj boomer...i heard he also
does lights...if they're not the same person, i want the rob who does
lights...:)

thanks folks.

peace,
hossam

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From ed%cwis.unomaha.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Sun Sep 19 16:31:18 1993
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Subject: Club FUSION (Omaha,NE)
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Club Fusion opened last weekend and is going fairly strong.  It's an
after-hours dance spot on the second floor of a go-go club.  After 1am,
the go-go place shuts down and the dancers have both floors to jiggle
and sway.  The music is pretty stale until 1am, when 18+ year-olds are
allowed in.  It then transforms into a technotic mix, good for any
wanton raver.
 
The people behind the club are Raving Mad, responsible for most of the
raves in the Omaha area over the past year or two.  DJ G3 seems to be
getting into a bit more of the harder edged stuff, but still tosses
disco chunks every so often.  
 
FUSION is open every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night from 10:30
until 4am...and on Wednesdays as dance-bar.  It's been packed tight
every time I've attended and the crowd is fairly young, with a mix of
the genders and sexual preferences.  The only other dance places in
Omaha are predominantly homosexual.  
 
FUSION managers are saving up to fix up the third floor of the building,
which is supposedly MUCH larger.  They need to get $5000 to build a
fire-escape.  They think they'll have it by Halloween when they plan to
have a tri-level rave-style party.  
 
This location is more stable and atmospheric than many of the places
they've held raves, it is missing the garnishes, though.  Video,
vendors, decorations and special events.  When it moves to the third
floor, they'll supposedly be setting up a permanent video installation
(hopefully with bigscreen) and as they settle in, I'm sure they'll spice
it up with fashion shows, masquerades, guest djs and shows.
 
If anyone's ever in the Omaha area, stop in some night.  It's above Club
15 Go-Go on 15th and Farnam downtown.  You have to go in the backdoor in
the alley.      
 
Lato...
...e

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From mjbutler%komodo.ham.muohio.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Mon Sep 20 12:00:49 1993
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   Sorry I didn't get the late edition of the meetwhile out.. Hope it
didn't screw anything up.. I kinda had an accidenent and ended up with 9
stiches in my right palm.. That was Saturday and I was in too much pain to
even think about logging on..  Owell.. Hope everyone had fun this past
weekend!  Talk to you all later!                 /     /\
                                               \/ohnny \\uest

J. Quest is
mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu


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Subject: Re: Zap and intro... 
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>headlight on--don't be ashamed to say hello!  I'm turning 19 tomorrow(I      
>don't mind getting birthday mail--hint,hint :)  I hail from Pittsburgh 

Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you...  Even though it's a few days
late.  Well, I have an excuse.  I left town Thurs. to go to Pink's Party
and so haven't read my mail in a while...

>>just out of simple curousity, did anybody say any thing about what happened in
>>lafayette.  I was wondering how it might have compare to some other events.
>>talking with one of the people that helped put it together, he said there
>>were more people then expected.  Did any body out there go?
>>
>>johnw

>When I got here last year, this place was dry.  Everyone went to Chicago for
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's an understatement if I've ever heard one  :-)

>But this year, Sho Kuwamoto and his roommate, Jay, must have been working 
>overtime to produce Zap!  They are the real scenesters here.  The lights were 

...and don't forget about me!  I helped too...  ;-)  did the flyer, badges, tix
and, and, and...  :-)

>incredible, the sound was massive, and the vibe was terrific.  Location     
>couldn't be better.  Right down the road from campus in this big 'ol warehouse.
>My crew got there at 11 and I started exploring--There was the main floor:
>It was hardcore 'till 12:30, then Sho did a good breakbeat set.  After that,
>more hardcore 'till 2 when it got kind of trancey.  There was another dj doing
>deep house all night on another floor behind the main area.  They were        
>projecting the usual Mind's Eye, etc, plus this cartoon about an elf with a
>cone head.  I really liked the elf cartoon.  
>
>Other than a smart drink stand and those guys with nitrous in the back, there
>were no real extras.  I like the fact that the organizers concentrated on the
>important stuff(djs, sound, lights) before the extras, because they did the 
>important stuff really well.  
>
>I could go on about the people who came(I estimated 500 there at one point),
>the djs(Thanks for coming down, Todd P!), or how when we got thirsty we'd run
>across the street to the county capital building and fill up our bottles.  I'd
>rather let someone who helped with the thing respond(Sho?).

Well, I'm glad somebody broke the silence  :-)  I didn't want to post anything
cause my opinions are biased of course :-)  But now...  Well, I had an awesome
time.  Best event I've been to in a long time.  I thought the lights were awe-
some.  The music was great.  The bigger than life projection was cool too.  I 
must admit, when I first took a look at the space a week or two prior to the 
event, I was a little overwhelmed.  It was huge!  I just couldn't believe that 
we could even begin to fill it.  And with such high ceilings, I wasn't 
sure how we could "decorate."  But it all worked out great.  It ended up being 
almost perfect (nothing can be perfect  ;-)  And merely a hop, skip and a jump
from the Lafayette police station!!!  We estimated about 450 came through
the course of the evening with a good sustained crowd from 10:30 til at least
2:30.   We were all very pleased that we pulled it off and that this town
could actually sustain an event like this.  I think it took me a week to come
down from the "high."  Oh, and btw, it was a benefit for Project Aids of 
Lafayette and we were able to donate $$ to them.
 
>That's right.  Lafayette, IN.  I don't know if this place will be the next
>Cleveland, but something's stirring.  

By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes...

e

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From: Sho Kuwamoto <sho@physics.purdue.edu>
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Does anyone know how to get a hold of any detroit djs for an
upcoming event?  I know boomer's agent is on the net... If
you could send me mail, that would be great.  Any other
contacts would be appreciated

-Sho
--
sho@physics.purdue.edu

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      Sho,
       I can get ahold of most all of the working Detroit D.J.'s:
       Richie Hawtin, D.Wynn, Derrick May, Mike Huckaby, Claude Young, etc. . .
       And I'm sure Rob Smith being closer to Detroit could do the same thing,
       and probably easier than I.  The biggest problem is  . . .
           So many quality D.J.'s to choose from-It's hard to select the 
           right one for your event.
       Good luck though, It helps to know/book one through a friend if you can.

                         Hope I/we can help,

                         Yours In the Groove,

                         David Hollands - Ball State Univ. - Muncie, IN.

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>anyone go to this one?

went.

>ive met dave hollands and i think he would put on a pretty nice event and

Had a great time.  Was there from about 12:45 to 5.  The music and sound were
great.  The DJ lineup was awesome.  I really dug Hyperactive and Flash Gordon.
Danced my a** off.  Unfortunately, towards the end, one of my friends fractured
her knee while doing some silly dance steps with another friend of mine.  But
she's ok now.  We all had an awesome time.  Kudos to dave for a great event.

>deliver on his claims...anyone confirm/deny?  but thursday night? how big a

(IMHO)
I don't know, but the last time I checked, roboscans are not intellabeams.  I
thought the flyer hyped up the lighting business a bit.  Actually, I thought
the lighting was a bit much; too many different effects going on.  It struck
me as a hodge-podge of everything they could get their hands on.  The 
place's ceiling (a bowling alley turned bingo parlour!) was just way too low 
and the robos weren't placed well enough to get really effective scans across 
the dance arena.

>non-local audience can you draw on a weeknight? hmmmm....

well, I'd estimate there were about 200-300 people that showed through the 
course of the evening, but I've never been good at estimating crowds.  Probably
mostly locals.   Recognized a few faces from out of town.  

forward ever, backward never
e

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>From the cyberdeck of Gregory M. Kus...
::
::No.. I won't be in chicago this weekend..
::Sept 18.. Sorry.. I'm down in champaign..
::if you are there gimme a call.. 217-328-9671

This got me thinking, today.  Sometimes on the weekend I don't get a chance
to check e-mail 'til late Sunday for many reasons.  If ANYone is coming to
Milwaukee for events or just to hang out and meet people, just call me and
Melissa and we can always find something relatively interesting to do.  Like
I've said, we have TONS of space and love meeting new people.  Just call
414.22.TRIPS and let us know what your weekend plans are gonna be.  Remember,
peace, unity and most importantly, respect.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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>From the cyberdeck of Kurt Vile...
[...]
::Rave is not only the party. For those of you who belive that rave is only for
::8 hours a week on saturday night, you are missing the most beautiful point 
::of rave.  Rave is a philosophy, it takes the feeling of unity we experince
::in a vibe filled room - and shows us what the world could become - it 
::becomes a part of our daily lives and (at least for me) has changed EVERY
::aspect of how I live, act, and treat others.

Rave had a different effect on me.  Initially, not knowing ANYthing about
rave/techno/house, so much of rave philosophy was already a large part of my
life.  That's why when I finally did get to a rave and feel the vibe I felt
and experience those sensations I knew this was the shit (as it were ;-).
Recently, I attended Mideon, by Drop Bass Network.  It was an excellent
event!  I haven't felt vibe like that for a L O N G time.  I think it may
have been because all of the events I've gone to of late have been all Drop
Bass and there raves are hardcore.  I just don't feel the vibe with hardcore
I do with house/et al, ya know?  Apologies to all the hardcore fans on the
list, but this is how I've felt.

::It is nessecary to examine the everyday world within the context of the 
::philosophy that we are forming - without that - rave dies - it is no longer
::something special - it is something to do, much like doing laundry.

Tell this to the gangstas who show up, armed, trying to buy drugs from
people.  I just don't get it, ya know?  Show up at a rave, stick your 9 in
your pants and ask all around for drugs.  What the fuck is that point?!?!?
Sorry for the expletives, but it makes absolutely no sense to me.  To bring
that kind of negativity to a place everyone knows might have at least some
cops show up is unbelievably stupid.  I dunno.  Anyway...

::To achive these ends we mustn't limit ourselves - we mustn't stifle
::the potentoal we have - but rather examine and devlop
::our methods of thinking to better them, and better the world.  Examine,
::and then act - working towards a vibe filled world cannot hurt - even if
::this community only touches one living soul into betterment then we have 
::achived.

This can tend to sound like a peace/love thingy which I think was the
downfall of the sixties movement, but I know what you are trying to say,
here.  I do agree, but one thing which must be remembered:  people will
always have conflicts, it's human nature (the animal left over in us).  It's
a matter of how we deal with this conflict and what we do to minimize it
(the respect part ;-).

::P.S. Did you ever think you would see Rabin and Arrifat shake hands?  I wept
::when I saw that - a beautiful moment - we have the ability to make more of
::these moments happen; we just have to try and move slowly - developing our
::philosophy and allowing it to touch those who surround us.

No, I never did.  I was convinced it would never happen for a lot of
reasons.  But when I did see it happen, it was on a vid brought into a class
by one of my professors: Peoples and Cultures of the Mid-East.  So, we
chatted about it after watching the vid and determined mainly that we'll all
have to wait and see.  Considering that the majority (at least this is what
the media wants us to believe, so take it with a grain of salt, but ya never
know ;-) of people in these countries doesn't want or believe in peace, only
irradication of the other side, the agreement reached was only an agreement 
to start peace negotiation between Israel and the PLO.  So, time will tell.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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>From the cyberdeck of Matthew S Macqueen...
[...]
::Were any net-ravers there?  [plug here:]---->  get a badge if you want to meet
::people  :)  :)

Nah, don't wait for a badge.  Just say hi randomly to people.  Believe me,
it'll be more interesting if you meet someone who knows NADA about the Net
and then you get to talk about it for half an hour.  That whole education
thang, ya know.



o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu



PS...  I don't mean to dis cmellow...the badges are way cool, but it's not a
prerequisite for meeting people    =)

From macqueen%student.msu.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 21 17:04:56 1993
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I saw a few different +8 records T-shirts at the last pontiac thing. . . really
cool designs.

I don't live in detroit and only go there to rave (stores are usu. closed by
1:00am  :)

does anyone know where to buy or mail-order one?  I gotta get one. . . .

Dave Walker or other native Detroiters out there?

I'm out ___________________________Q.___________________________________

h  i  t  t  i  n'    s  w  i  t  c  h  e  s

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On Tue, 21 Sep 1993, Matthew S Macqueen wrote:

> 
> I saw a few different +8 records T-shirts at the last pontiac thing. . . really
> cool designs.
> 
> I don't live in detroit and only go there to rave (stores are usu. closed by
> 1:00am  :)
> 
> does anyone know where to buy or mail-order one?  I gotta get one. . . .
> 

Like most techno-oriented stuff in Detroit, the place to look first
would be Recordtime (RecordTime  25110 Gratiot Roseville MI  313.775.1550).
They're quite happy to do mail-order.

They have merchandise for +8, UR, KMS, as well as Made In Detroit stuff,
etc.

| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS)                                |
|                                          "I don't read, I just guess"  |
| marmoset@msen.com                    -Happy Mondays, "Wrote For Luck"  | 




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Hi gang - This saturday night I will be at BIOFUNK in madison , WI - look for me
I will be passing out full page fliers for diagonal productions and a couple other  
things....

--Kurt

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>
>
>
>I saw a few different +8 records T-shirts at the last pontiac thing. . . really
>cool designs.
>
>I don't live in detroit and only go there to rave (stores are usu. closed by
>1:00am  :)
>
>does anyone know where to buy or mail-order one?  I gotta get one. . . .

Call RecordTime. 1.313.555.1212 and ask for Roseville. They will send stuff to
you anywhere in the world, if you got plastic.

>
>Dave Walker or other native Detroiters out there?
>
>I'm out ___________________________Q.___________________________________
>
>h  i  t  t  i  n'    s  w  i  t  c  h  e  s
>
>

--
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INDUSTRY. WOBC-FM 91.5 Oberlin, Ohio, USA.   The Chronicle. Elyria, Ohio, USA.
  ``The music is like Detroit, a complete mistake. It's Kraftwerk and George 
               Clinton stuck in an elevator.''  -- Derrick May

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all i got here is stuff for THIS saturday.  nothing else... sorry.  start
typing in more flyers... its a good thing to do...

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               /\    /\\    /\    / \      \     \ \    / /     / /
              /  \  /  \\  /  \  /   \      \_____\ \  / /_____/ /_____
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9/25 S Madison    BIOFUNK
9/25 S StLouis    TRIBES OF UNITY
9/25 S Detroit    JUNGLE BEAT
=========================================================================
<display RAVES in full>


25 SEPTEMBER sat		MADISON			BIOFUNK

Gravity's BIOFUNK

   Beyond the Valley of the Humongous Funk-us

	SATURDAY, SEPT. 25  --  MADISON, WISCONSIN


with:

Terry Mullan - St. Louis
Hyperactive - Chicago
Mystic Bill - Chicago
Mind Drive - Madison
Mr. E - San Fancisco
Kevin Wilk-e - Madison
Efex - Chicago

go mental in the agro zone & dip your soul deep in to the groove in the
  FUNKY TRIBAL VILLAGE
body and stress reducing MIND BOXES and psychic vibrator machines
 chill out in the ambient touch-e feel-e osmosis resurrection lounge
soul energizing space age vitamin INTELLI-BAR by dr. ribe o'flavour
 divine love vibes provided by erotishock
massive video overstimulation by e.2.speed
 forbidden cosmic fruit market
an all out bass bumpin, booty shakin, bell bottom bonanza

608-258-0003	312-792-6152	414-256-1733

Props to:  Drop Bass Network, Ripe, Sense, Boum, No One (Seattle), Kind
           Project, the Cardinal, Global Underworld Network...


25 SEPTEMBER			 DETROIT		JUNGLE BEAT

Sept. 93		11pm

The JUNGLE BEAT

Leave your whistle, bring a drum

POD productions

September twenty-fifth		11 o'clock

Starring in order - DJs - of appearance

Erich
			- an outdoor tribal gathering
DAT
			- sound and lighting by elite enterprises
Mike Huckaby
			- props to L.C.P. and definitive - get smart USA
David Alvarado
			- from family groove in Los Angeles
Jetstream
			- 3d.  digital.dug.design


                |				|
                |	       I-94		|
	========+===============================+===================
		|				|
		|Woodward			|Mt. Elliot
		|	    Jefferson		|
	--------+---------------+---------------+-------------------
				|
				|Orleans
				|
				|X  (Globe Trading Center)
		----------------+---------------------------
			      Atwater


25 SEPTEMBER sat		ST.LOUIS		TRIBES OF UNITY
	
	hosted by M.A.R.S., call 314.995.6277

	DJs:
	Kevin Brock
	Merlin
	Jeff Feller
	Brad S.

	in a virgin city space just north of downtown:
	cheap juice bar
	free fruit
	gear 4 sale
	intelligent lights
	film loops


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   This list consists of what everyone's doing for the upcoming 
   weekend. You should include where you'll be going, what you'll 
   be wearing, if you can offer rides/crash spaces, and any other 
   relevant information.
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DETROIT:
  The Underground INFO LINE           313.927.DAM1 (1515 stuff)
  VOOM                                313.433.2129
  Brainfish                           313.358.9882
  Ozone - Uniting Souls of the Night  313.746.9644
  loopin' in existance  - L.I.E.      313.901.5101

 Where to buy 12" in DETROIT
  RecordTime  25110 Gratiot Roseville MI  313.775.1550
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ST. LOUIS:
  Global Organization of Dance (GOOD) - do shows in St. Louis
  Find your info from Ultrasonic 1219 Washington St. Louis MO.
  AND: West End Wax, Vintage Vynal, Sound Revolution, and the Avalon
  DETAILS: (314) UDO-RAVE
  M.A.R.S: (314) 995.MARS

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ST. LOUIS       XODUS at OFF LIMITS New Ballwin Rd Manchester MO
		Sunday
ST. LOUIS       SECTOR 17 St Charles MO 314.230.2317  
                Wednesday-Saturday / 17up no alcohol               
CLEVELAND       SMART BAR 1575 Merwin Av 522.1575                 
		Wed (alt/techno) / Fri & Sat (techno/house) / always 19up
CLEVELAND       ALTER HOUSE / 1273 W 9th 781.4400
                Thu (acid/deep house) / Fri (alt) / Sat (whatever) / 18up
CLEVELAND       METROPOLIS 2325 Elm St 241.4007
                Sunday (the Church--hardcore/breakbeat--very cool!) / 18up
CINCINNATI      THE WAREHOUSE 1313 Vine St
                Wed 10-2 $2 / Thu 10-4 $2 (DJ Bob-A-Dob) / Fri 10-4 $3
 		Sat 10-4 $5
                Info: mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu or
                      ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
CINCINNATI      JIVE ALIVE at R-CLUB on Calhoun near UC campus
                Monday (DJs MINDCANDY & DAISY)
CHICAGO         FOXIES                 
                Tuesday (DJ Spencer Kinzey)
CHICAGO         RED DOG           
                Wednesday (DJ Diz)
CHICAGO		SHELTER	564 W Fulton
	 	Thu-Sat (DJs TOM E & JOHN CURLEY underground/groove house)
CHICAGO		CROBAR N Kingsbury near W North
		Thu-Sat (DJs PSYCHO BITCH & TERRY BRISTOL techno/house)
DAYTON          THE PALACE CLUB 2346 Grange Hall Rd Beavercreek
                Monday, Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday / 8-2 / 18up
DAYTON          1470 WEST 1470 W Dorothy La Kettering
                Thursday (techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DAYTON	        CITY LIGHTS 1721 N Main St N Dayton
                Sunday (underground/techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DETROIT         HEAVEN Woodward & 7mi
                Saturday
DETROIT         1515 Broadway 313.245.4785
                Saturday
DETROIT         INDUSTRY 15 S Saginaw at Pike Pontiac MI 313.334.1999
                Friday
MADISON		CARDINAL BAR 418 E Wilson
		Sat (DJ MIKE CARLSON) 9-2pm
		Sun 6-10 (acid jazz DJ MIKE CARLSON) 10-2 (DJ CYKO-PHUK)
MILWAUKEE       at NITRO 500 W Water St 414.356.1360
		Wednesday (DJs MR BILL, ACID BOY TODD P & TOBY TYLER)
MINNEAPOLIS     CHAOS
		Friday & Saturday (hardcore techno)
MINNEAPOLIS     at FIRST AVENUE
		Tue (techno/indust) / Wed (hardcore techno)
		Sat & Sun (best nights) / Sun (all ages)
MINNEAPOLIS     GLAM SLAM (Prince's club)   
		Friday / 21up
MINNEAPOLIS     SALOON
		Sunday & Thursday
MINNEAPOLIS     THE FORBIDDEN EDGE 407 W Lake St
		Thur (hip-hop) / Fri & Sat (techno) / Sun (hip-hop) / 8-12
LEXINGTON       THE VIRTUAL GALLERY
    		Friday & Saturday / 2.30-4am

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	dan      modE@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
		 danF@des.uwm.edu


Daniel James Frederiksen
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          Well, my space (and one backup) just fell through, but one way or 
          another, I will be having a party somewhere near Detroit.
          
          October 23, 1993
          
          DJ's:
          BMG (of Crush Collision)
          St. John (formerly of the Nectarine)
          Boomer (recording artist as VitaMan)
          DRC (from San Francisco)
          Richie Hawtin (like he needs an intro)
          
          Lighting & visuals by Technoir.
          Sound by Arial Sound.
          Smart Bar by Get Smart, USA.
          Vibe by YOU.
          
          11pm-?
          $5
          
          Info:  313.996.1676
          
          All DJ's are confirmed, details on the location to be announced 
          ASAP.



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Subject: Re: Plus 8 reecords
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Status: OR

> >I saw a few different +8 records T-shirts at the last pontiac thing. . . really

if anyone in chicago is interested, i think that gramaphone may still have
some.  i only saw one design though.  if i remember correctly their number
is 312-874-3683.

-jon

-- 
-jonathan miller-jemiller@symphony.cc.purdue.edu

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From: Quan Xu <gk13@umd5.umd.edu>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 17:02:22 -0400
To: randy@anywhere.umd.edu
Subject: rave

**This is a note i got back for responding to this person..thought
you would like to read it..as well...hmm..what does this boy need,
a wake up call for real!!** 

	four year ago rave very popular in vietnam especially in the
nan-ho and quai river regions, now not so popular. although such thing
seem to be gain more popularity in u.s.  i not condem rave but i 
believe rave should not be discussed at school or over school machine.
please do not contribute to such discussion, academic pursuit has
more integrity without such talk. i take ill on monday and so did not
see you.
-Doug
er uhm... 
-Q. Xu


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I'll be at BIOFUNK in Madison this Saturday.  I can offer some crash
space if anyone needs it.  

peas,

jen
608-255-4598

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I'm only getting 2 or 4 messages a day this week. Is this accurate, or 
should I be concerned?

ET
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>>From: Quan Xu <gk13@umd5.umd.edu>
>>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 17:02:22 -0400
>>To: randy@anywhere.umd.edu
>>Subject: rave
>>
>>**This is a note i got back for responding to this person..thought
>>you would like to read it..as well...hmm..what does this boy need,
>>a wake up call for real!!** 
>>
>>	four year ago rave very popular in vietnam especially in the
>>nan-ho and quai river regions, now not so popular. although such thing
>>seem to be gain more popularity in u.s.  i not condem rave but i 
>>believe rave should not be discussed at school or over school machine.
>>please do not contribute to such discussion, academic pursuit has
>>more integrity without such talk. i take ill on monday and so did not
>>see you.
>>-Doug
>>er uhm... 
>>-Q. Xu

First of all, this guy is clearly in the dark about our new "outcome-based
education" standard  :)

Are PLURALS really that big of a mystery?  For someone taking on the English
language (a tremendous feat in itself), it would seem that adding an 's' to the
end of plural nouns would be a simple matter...  I guess I shouldn't care, but
it really does unecessarily take a great deal of credibility away from an
otherwise useful statement.  Whatever...

Finally, I wonder what his interpretation of a "Rave" is.  It wonder how the
raves in Vietnam would compare to the parties in London around the same time. 
Anybody with any useful comment on this?



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> I'm only getting 2 or 4 messages a day this week. Is this accurate, or
> should I be concerned?

sounds right to me.  is that a problem? :)
mike

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Well the really funny part about this..is that he said first off
that it ruined our grades...and for lots of people..granted they can't
balance school at times..but i responded to him with telling him that
my grades this term were 4.0 and i raved more than I ever had...so
his response was REALLY lame..so send him lots of mail and
make him furious :)
Tata
Sasha..the bringer of funny people

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From: William Frain <cuwpf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
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Hello,

	If I am not mistaken, HarvestFest is this weekend in Madison
(where lots o' folks light the funky skunky smelly green shit ;) on the
steps of the state capitol)...  
	I am most likely going to make the *6 hour* trip with a bunch of
friends and am wondering if anybody else is going to be hanging out
excersising (sp?) their right to protest the outdated policy of
marijuana prohibition and the ever-so-successful War on Drugs...or just
hang out and explore Mad-town.  We are camping out somewhere too, I have
no idea where exactly.  BTW, I'm not a mj activist, but I consider
myself somewhat informed.  
	I am very much looking forward to BioFunk (cool name) and hope
it's a good one...i.e. lotsa peoples, lotsa bass, lotsa vibe, lotsa fun!
What was my point anyway?  Oh yeah, I'm going to Madison for Harvestfest
and Biofunk...hope to see ya there!

...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB...WOWMB.
(body-numbing bass emulation)

pppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccccceeeeeeeee
 

-- 
Bill Frain
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>"Before you see the Light,
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> you must die."
cuwpf@uxa.bgu.edu                                         --Slayer

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        This will serve two purposes . . .
   
     1)  Very appreciative thanks goes out to everyone who helped make
       Pink's Party the Success it was - One of the most complete events
       we've done.  Thanks a billion.
        
         Most everybody I've spoken with enjoyed the nights, and something
       is cooking again.  This time we'll do it on Saturday night.

         As far as Intellabeams v. Roboscans - Your right.  The Roboscans were
       courtesy of Technocolor from Cincy filling in for Gridlock who had to
       cancel his Intellabeams a week before the show because his partner sold
       them back to Orlando's Beacham Theatre club (whatever it is now) where
       he got them in the first place.

         We'd love to have a warehouse again like we have before but in Muncie,
       it's just a matter of supply and demand - there's (very) little supply.
       So we take what we do have and make the best of it - Besides, the low-
       ceiling really made the best of the sound system; nice and tight.

         For the record we had 577 paid people through the door plus "at least"
       another 100 on various guest lists from D.J.'s etc.  The buildings' main
       floor was 15,000 square feet and even only using half of it as the dance
       floor would've required more people to make it looked full.

         We all had a good time, let's do it again soon.

     2)  This is an open Invitation for D.J.'s to Spin at the new Thursday-all-
       niters we're doing in Muncie.  It's called "The Edge" and this is the
       opportunity to build our dance/club culture that we've needed for so
       long in this state.  Anybody interested (or if you know somebody have
       them) contact me directly about being a part of it.  
         We'll have our local Schpinning Schtuds + Guest D.J.'s "on demand."
         It's really moving forward quite fast.  I spoke with David Prince from
       Reactor Magazine today, and we may arrange for S.F., CA's "Dub Tribe" to
       perform next Thursday.  It's an "No age Restriction" Club =(aka) no
       Alcohol served venue.  But it is next to The Heroet, a professor owned
       pub/tavern modeled after the Beowolf famed hall; no cover - just exotic
       brews and one-of-a-kind setting.

         Every Thursday - "The Edge" - Muncie, IN  

         Groovus Maximus Bassline -  317.281.3000

   

Yours in the Groove,
Mind of the Perptual Vibe,
David Hollands - Ball State University - Muncie, IN - 317.288.6277
                        24 Hr Muncie/Indiana Info @ - 317.281.3000
____________________________________________________________________________

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Does anyone know any techno/rave relatd ftp sites besides techno.stanford.edu?

thanks,
Julian
*please reply to jcarow@athena.mit.edu**

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Subscribe me to your list if you could be so kind..
thank you--- jim

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i'll also be at biofunk.....


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i'll also be at biofunk--if anyone cares
-i'll be with my brother and his girlfriend

-boris

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Happy Thursday!  Here is the early edition.. Not too much happening other
than maybe Biofunk... Here it is..

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Kurt Vile: (Not sure of this weeks address) 

Hi gang - This saturday night I will be at BIOFUNK in madison , WI - look
for me I will be passing out full page fliers for diagonal productions and a
couple other things....

--Kurt

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

JEN THOMAS: (unknown)

I'll be at BIOFUNK in Madison this Saturday.  I can offer some crash
space if anyone needs it.  

peas,

jen
608-255-4598

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

David Hollands: (00hamacdonal@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu)

       This Thursday and every Thurday we'll be doing all niters at the
 
    C.O.C. in Muncie, IN - Ball State.  It's called "The Edge": Myself,
   
    Mr. Linus, and 3-4 other locals will be regulars but we will have at

    least one guest/out of town D.J. a week.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

boris: (bfeldman@students.wisc.edu) 

i'll also be at biofunk--if anyone cares
-i'll be with my brother and his girlfriend

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

  Updates will happen Saturday @ 5 or so..Please send me info if you are
going anywhere, also please leave me your address and what you'll be
wearing and all that.. Thanx!                      /     /\
                                                 \/ohnny \\uest

J. Quest is:
mjbutler@komodo.ham.muohio.edu


From RBLOOM%ucs.indiana.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep 23 17:56:36 1993
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HAy, ya'll!! Anybody got Reactor magazine subscription info? Please feel 
free to post info. on any other Chicago rave magazines as well.

From RBLOOM%ucs.indiana.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep 23 17:56:35 1993
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Hi gang! I think the rave scene is totally Xcellent but don't know of any 
other ravers here in Bloomington. Please if your'e down here in bloomington
email me or call me at 857-1409. Party Time!!
Ravin' Rick

From kenchi%cmb.biosci.wayne.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep 23 19:21:45 1993
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From: Kenneth Chi <kenchi@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu>
Subject: Wonka slipmats
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Does anyone out there know where I could get a pair of 
"Wonka" slipmats via mail-order?

Thanks.

Ken
kenchi@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu




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does anybody have more information about this event????????????


				kathleen

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Subject: Re: Wonka slipmats
To: kenchi@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu (Kenneth Chi)
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>
>
>Does anyone out there know where I could get a pair of 
>"Wonka" slipmats via mail-order?

sure, try the INNOVATIVE RECORD SOURCE
at:  poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu


he can also send you new release lists for imported vinyl, and cd's.



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I am looking to buy another pair of 1200's for
under $400...used or new.
My best offer so far was at A.S.T. (NY)
for $370 w/ pair of cartidges.

Let me know if anyone has any other reliable
mail-order sources.

Thanks.

Ken

kenchi@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu




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He all you mw-ravers who are going to BioFunk - do you want to meet somewhere -  
either before during or after the event - I don't know Madison at all but mabye one  
of the madison folks could figure out a good spot - or maybe we could meet "at the  
DJ booth" just after Hyperactive + Terry mullan get off or something?!? sound good?

--Kurt

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For some reason my mail never seems to reach rob - 

does anyone have this problem - and any Idea on how to fix it?

Thanks 

--Kurt

P.S. This is also a test - b/c I'm sending it in a different format than 

usual.....

From constant%ecn.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 24 08:45:02 1993
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To: ESONA@ucs.indiana.edu, I301012@ecvax2.ecn.missouri.edu,
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If you'll excuse me, I'm hyperventilating....

The Metro, Chicago

October 20 -




                              The Orb.




Don't email me for a half hour. I'm running down the street to a Ticketmaster
outlet.

Tino, breathing into a paper bag


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Hi gang! Anybody out there know address or other subscription info. for 
reactor magazine? how about any other Chicago ravezines? please post or 
email me.
ravin' rick

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Hi! my name is rick and I am fairly new to the rave scene. I am most 
xtremely cool and would enjoy hearing from other ravers here in Btown.
so c'mon, gang, email me or call me at 857-1409. I don't know of even one 
other raver down here!!!

From aragorn%convex.csd.uwm.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 24 10:34:59 1993
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>From the cyberdeck of Kenneth Chi...
::I am looking to buy another pair of 1200's for
::under $400...used or new.
::My best offer so far was at A.S.T. (NY)
::for $370 w/ pair of cartidges.
::
::Let me know if anyone has any other reliable
::mail-order sources.

Could you re-post this list back to the list?  I'm sure a lot of people,
well, maybe not a lot, but I, am interested in this, also.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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>From the cyberdeck of Kurt Vile...
::He all you mw-ravers who are going to BioFunk - do you want to meet somewhere -  
::either before during or after the event - I don't know Madison at all but mabye one  
::of the madison folks could figure out a good spot - or maybe we could meet "at the  
::DJ booth" just after Hyperactive + Terry mullan get off or something?!? sound good?

This a a great idea!  BTW, does anyone know if Biofunk is indeed going to be
a 'club' event?  We're trying to figure out if it's worth the drive to
Madison and it being in a club would maybe keep us from going.  If it is,
are there after-hours planned?


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

From THOMAS%EPIDAT.DecNet%wigate.nic.wisc.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 24 13:24:00 1993
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Subject: meeting at/before biofunk
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Kurt's idea of meeting at the dj booth after hyperactive sounds good to
me.  I also wanted to let people know that if they get into Madison
earlier in the evening and want to meet up,  I'll be at the Essen
Haus on E. Wilson St. from about 8-9, then at O'Cayz Corral to 
experience the frenzied ska of MU330 and the Weaker Youth Ensemble.
(O'Cayz is on E. Wilson as well -- just a few blocks east of the
Capitol via King St.).  Feel free to call or e-mail me if you
wanna meet at either place or need directions.

I'll be the short-brown-haired gal w/ a mw-raves badge, and most likely
be wearing a tacky goldish-brown pajama jacket, among other things.

And yes, the Harvest Fest will be taking place this weekend at the
Capitol, for those of you who are interested.  

c-ya later,

jen
608-255-4598

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From: SPeCiMeN <ndc@engin.umich.edu>
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oh boy...  words can't describe how much i wanna see this show..

anybody know if they're playin in detroit?

if not, anybody from the ann arbor/detroit area with a car thinkin about going
to chicago?  i'll pay some gas and all that stuff



andy

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_____________________________________________________________________________
Saturday, October 30                  Lexington, KY              606.282.1661
LexiCon IX Rave

LexiCON IX RAVE! Saturday Night Oct. 30

University of Kentucky
Old Student Center Grand Ballroom
Lexington, Kentucky

Admission free with convention badge.
Advance registration for LexiCON IX is $5.00 until Sept. 20 and $8.00 at the
door.

LexiCON hotline 606-281-1661.

-In reference to the rave at the University of Kentucky, Lexington, on
-Oct. 30, school policy/police only allow in people with a valid
-college ID (can be other colleges than UK).  If you are planning on coming,
-bring a college ID...yours or an obtained one.



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Is biofunk going to be a club event?....






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I was going to go to Biofunk, but since it might be a club event,
does anyone know the phone for Ravers from space..



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I was going to go to Biofunk, but since it might be a club event,
does anyone know the phone for Ravers from space..



From jemiller%sonata.cc.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 24 15:39:20 1993
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To: constant@ecn.purdue.edu (Tino)
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yes!! they are indeed, playing on the 20th!  i just bought my ticket
from a location in hammond indiana, so they may already be on sale, 
actually they are already on sale, because i have mine.  the cost was
$10 + 2.50 service charge..

-jon

> Tickets for the October 20 show at Metro (3730 N. Clark) go on sale this
> Saturday, September 25, at noon.
> 
> The price? Isn't that irrelevant?
> 
> Tino

-- 
-jonathan miller-jemiller@symphony.cc.purdue.edu

From THOMAS%EPIDAT.DecNet%wigate.nic.wisc.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Fri Sep 24 17:36:23 1993
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yes, the rave will be at a club (heard from a reliable source).

for those of you who don't want to go to the rave, but are coming to 
Madison anyway, I'd really urge you to check out the ska show at
O"Cayz (plug, plug ;) ).  It starts at 9 pm and features those
fabulous boys from St. Louis, MU330, and Madison's own Weaker
Youth Ensemble.  

Personally, I might skip the rave altogether and seek out an
after-bar scene.

skank-or-rave,

jen

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On Fri, 24 Sep 1993, SPeCiMeN wrote:

> 
> oh boy...  words can't describe how much i wanna see this show..
> 
> anybody know if they're playin in detroit?
> 
> if not, anybody from the ann arbor/detroit area with a car thinkin about going
> to chicago?  i'll pay some gas and all that stuff
> 
> 
> 
> andy

Hey, I'm from Detroit, and was wondering about the question above too.
I have a car which holds 5.  Let me know if any are interested.

Ken



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From: JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS <YUSEF@macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: FULL ON LASERTAG HYSTERIA before (at?) BioFunk!!!!!
To: MW-RAVES@engin.umich.edu
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Status: OR

	Join the Underground Madison Commandos as they take you deep beneath
the earth through UW-Madison's steam tunnel labrynth for a vicious match of
Lasertag! Prepare to sweat in the maze of death, prepare to die!!!
 
	In the finest tradition of Peat and Archer (aka Altern8) we'll settle
the score tomorrow evening (8 pm Sat.) on who is TRULY hardcore. Then, at
BioFunk, conditions permitting, we'll have another battle within earshot of
the rave. Shoot your enemies to the merciless pounding of hardcore!! Just
remember, LOSER BUYS BREAKFAST!!!!!!!!
 
	Email me if you can and would like to participate:
yusef@macc.wisc.edu. We have equipment for four more (unless you have the
day-glo guns and detectors too). Only the hardcore :).
 
	BTW, we will be paying for BioFunk this time (as it is a benefit for
the new BioFunk Dept. here at the University of Wis.), so we will be inside
for a while, too.
 
	Hope to see you on the battlefield!

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Constant@ecn.purdue.edu writes:

>>If you'll excuse me, I'm hyperventilating....
>>
>>The Metro, Chicago
>>
>>October 20 -
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                              The Orb.
>>

I was just wondering... are these guys any good?

:)

Wally

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Ok - After Terry and Joe's Set (Hyperactive) at the tables.......

--Kurt

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>From the cyberdeck of Kurt Vile...
::
::Ok - After Terry and Joe's Set (Hyperactive) at the tables.......

message received and understood ... if we make it out to Madison we'll be
there at the pre-designated time


... E N D  O F  L I N E ...



o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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an

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Subject: Wanna see the Orb in Cincy?
To: klf@asylum.sf.ca.us (orb), mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (MW Raves)
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Greetings Earthlings!

Well, as Dave Miller pointed out, the Orb have a couple days between
their gig in NYC and their gig in Chicago.  Lots of space inbetween
those points...

Bogarts in Cincinnati has a answering machine that you can call and leave
a suggestion.  Let's all pester them to bring the Orb in.  Ya?  I've already
called.  I'd suggest leaving your name and phone number.  I highly doubt
that they will return a long distance call.

Bogarts:  event line  - 513-281-8400  (ans machine)
          business    - 513-281-8401  
          suggestions - 513-357-6270  (machine)   <----- call this one!

Thanks.  Hopefully something will come about...



Andrew
-- 

Andrew Bennett   abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu   What planet are you from?

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Who does the weekly list?--i have some flyers i can post to you.

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From: an056@cleveland.freenet.edu (Gregory Winer)
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Subject: The Orb.  R They on Tour?
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Does anyone know if they'll be playing any more shows besides 
the two already mentioned (MY, Chi)?  If anyone knows who's booking
or promoting (i.e. agents, not clubs), please e-mail to me personnally.
Thx!

Gregory

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Gregory Winer
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how was the jungle beat anyways? i got the flu so i stayed in
all weekend...



andy



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> 	In the finest tradition of Peat and Archer (aka Altern8) we'll settle
> the score tomorrow evening (8 pm Sat.) on who is TRULY hardcore. Then, at

Speaking of Altern8, please update me.  It's been awhile since I've heard
anything.  Last year, I bought a copy of the Mask Hysteria album, but it
was stolen before I could listen to it.  Bummer.

thanX,

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attention to purdue students!!!!!

i'm going to the Orb concert on the 20th of october in chi town. I've room for
two people there is just me and my friend going now, i drive a chevette so 
four people is kind of cramped for 2 hours up (not to mention back, too)
so please call me -----> 743-3413 and its first call first serve.  my answering
machine is rather friendly and so are the room mates (maybe). 
transmition off...

six feet under, there is no peace.  the damn worms make to much noise!

johnw

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This is for all the orb people in Chi town:

  Let's get all together before the concert...?...



From THOMAS%EPIDAT.DecNet%wigate.nic.wisc.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 28 10:20:28 1993
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Sounds like a good idea.  Since the show doesn't start until 9 pm, how
about meeting around 7 pm at the Smart Bar (next to the Metro)?

-jenny

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Smart Bar is IN the Metro. They won't let you in. There's a couple of
other bars nearby, notably The Gingerbread Man, just north of the
place.

But then, _I_ live on Clark St., but I don't know if it's big enough
for a pre-Orb rave... :)

Tino


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Okay, the Gingerbread Man sounds fine.  But why won't the Smart Bar
let us in?  I've been there a few times before shows at the Metro --
and have had no trouble.  I remember having to enter the bar from
a doorway *next to* the Metro.  

-jen

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> ....Since the show doesn't start until 9 pm, how
> about meeting around 7 pm at the Smart Bar (next to the Metro)?....

Sounds cool.


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We can actually go to Raw Bar... They got pretty good food too...


From coplex!genetrix%uunet.UU.NET@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 28 15:53:28 1993
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On Tue, 28 Sep 1993, JEN THOMAS wrote:

> Sounds like a good idea.  Since the show doesn't start until 9 pm, how
> about meeting around 7 pm at the Smart Bar (next to the Metro)?

The Smart Bar will let you in if you have tickets for the Metro, although 
i don{t know what time the smart bar opens.  Also James Johnston has been 
the dj for the past couple of months for sats at the smart bar and maybe 
they will bring him in for the orb show.  

peace

tim ramsey
genetrix 
ImSmartRU 


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	If anyone from Champaign is going to the orb concert in Chicago
please let me know if you have room for an extra passenger, or if anyone
would like to split the cost of renting a cheap car for the night
(meaning driving back Thurs. morning)....


-- 
Bill Frain
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>"Before you see the Light,
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> you must die."
cuwpf@uxa.bgu.edu                                         --Slayer

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cuwpf@uxa.bgu.edu                                         --Slayer

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I will be going to the orb show in chicago
on oct. 20 from madison
If anyone from madison or somewhere along the way needs
a ride, let me know

peas,
boris

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Meeting at the nearby bars might sound like a nifty idea,
but keep in mind those of us that are not 21 :)

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To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (Midwest Raves)
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                                    ______ ______ _      _ ______  ______
               /\    /\\    /\    / \      \     \ \    / /     / /
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=========================================================================
10/02 S Chicago    EVOLUTION 
10/09 S Chicago    REJOICE
10/16 S ?          SKYLAB                                 
10/23 S ?          CRASH WORSHIP        
10/30 S Lexington  LEXICON IX           
=========================================================================
<display RAVES in full>

02 OCTOBER Saturday		CHICAGO			EVOLUTION

ATP--chicago hardcore authority  & DROP BASS NETWORK
combine efforts for one night forming a triple crown of hardcore
for the chicagoland area

EVOLUTION
----------
30,000 SQ. FT. outside of chicago

Spinning hardcore:
-underground resistance recording artist
  DJ T1000 (Detroit)
-labworks, drop bass producer
   DJ ESP Woody MCBRIDE (MINNEAPOLIS)
-HYPERACTIVE
-MR. BILL  & JETHRO X (MILWAUKEE)
-STEVE TANG

Spinning jungle:
-JJ JellyBean
-DR. GROO
-PHAnTOM 45
-R.P. SMACK

For the first time in chicago SUBKULTURE AUDIOS wall ofsound
intelligent lights & lasers, mind expanding visuals by MARK ZERO (Okla.)
& Acid Boy of EPHEX (milwaukee)
smart nutrition lounge by WATERWORKS

312-509-4902    708-786-3942
414-256-1733    608-258-0003
312-853-2098 ext 287


09 OCTOBER Saturday		CHICAGO			REJOICE

   David J. Prince in association with Drop Bass Network presents...
		a celebration of historic proportions

		     REJOICE:		10.09.93

	The Reactor Magazine One Year Anniversay Party

			Featuring Live P.A.'s

	From S.F.		From Minneapolis: Experimental, Labworks,
Organico Recording Artist	  and Drop Bass Network Recording Artist

	DUB TRIBE			EARTHWORM
				 (E.S.P. Woody McBride)

   plus three rooms of continuous music for everyone's groovin' pleasure

The Foft-Core Free Form Floor,		The Hard-Headed Chamber
featuring DJ's:				featuring DJ's:

Kevin Martin & Matt Adell		Hyperactive
Tom Pazen				E.S.P. Woody
Heather - The Female Preacher		Mr. Bill (Milwaukee)
Smack					E-FEX
Miles Maeda				Davey Dave
Mystic Bill				Jethro-X (Milwaukee)
							plus
			Paul & Dan of Psychosonik (Minneapolis)

			The Unity Pavilion,
			  featuring DJ's:

			D.B. (NASA, New York)
			Terry Mullan (St. Louis)
			Derrick Carter
			Josh Werner
			Kevin Wilke (Madison)
			Jeddiah the Messiah (Milwaukee)

Additional Attraction will include:

Drum Circle by The Tribe	
Wall of Sound by SubKulture Audio (featuring over 40 bass bins)
Psychecyberadient Lights by Scotto
Intelligent Lighting & Lasers
Visual Distortions by Zero Films and EPHEX
Smart Drinks by Waterworks
Hats by Grandma Jesus
Shirts by Sir Real
Clothing by Chicago Stitchworks
Psychedelic Art Display by Craig Hanke
CD & Cassette Give-Aways
It Comes in Waves-Special Performance and Gallery by Andy Soma and
Patricia O'Donnell

Rejoice will be held in a 100% legal venue.
This is an 18 and over event - I.D.'s will be checked.
Limited Tickets Available - Advance Tickets Will be Sold.
$10.00 advance / $12.00 day of show.
Free Legal Parking.

Call the Reactor Rejoice Hotlines for more details.

Chicago: 312.604.1833		Suburbs:   708.216.9758
312.509.8199
Milwaukee: 414.256.1733			   414.777.3998
414.548.1973
Madison: 608.258.0003		St. Louis: 314.963.4667

Thanks to all who show love and support. Practice random acts of
kindness.

Sir Real Grafix
312.360.1948


30 OCTOBER Saturday		LEXINGTON		LEXICON IX

University of Kentucky
Old Student Center Grand Ballroom
Lexington, Kentucky

Admission free with convention badge.
Advance registration for LexiCON IX is $5.00 until Sept. 20 and $8.00 at the
door.

LexiCON hotline 606-281-1661.

-In reference to the rave at the University of Kentucky, Lexington, on
-Oct. 30, school policy/police only allow in people with a valid
-college ID (can be other colleges than UK).  If you are planning on coming,
-bring a college ID...yours or an obtained one.

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MW-RAVES meetwhile-Raving List! 
   Issued THURSDAY, mail to:   mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu.... 
   This list consists of what everyone's doing for the upcoming 
   weekend. You should include where you'll be going, what you'll 
   be wearing, if you can offer rides/crash spaces, and any other 
   relevant information.
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MW-RAVES ARCHIVES:
  are maintained by Paul Madden (madden@anton.cvm.uiuc.edu)
  ftp to: pasteur.cvm.uiuc.edu  -or- 128.174.187.7
  cd into the directory 'mwr'           be nice and use it after hours
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REACTOR MAGAZINE:
12 issues/$15.00 (domestic) $30.00 (overseas). Check or Money order to:
Reactor Magazine
858 W. Armitage, #208
Chicago, IL 60614               4-6 weeks for first issue to arrive
312-509-8199
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DETROIT:
  The Underground INFO LINE           313.927.DAM1 (1515 stuff)
  VOOM                                313.433.2129
  Brainfish                           313.358.9882
  Ozone - Uniting Souls of the Night  313.746.9644
  loopin' in existance  - L.I.E.      313.901.5101

 Where to buy 12" in DETROIT
  RecordTime  25110 Gratiot Roseville MI  313.775.1550
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ST. LOUIS:
  Global Organization of Dance (GOOD) - do shows in St. Louis
  Find your info from Ultrasonic 1219 Washington St. Louis MO.
  AND: West End Wax, Vintage Vynal, Sound Revolution, and the Avalon
  DETAILS: (314) UDO-RAVE
  M.A.R.S: (314) 995.MARS
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ST. LOUIS       XODUS at OFF LIMITS New Ballwin Rd Manchester MO
		Sunday
ST. LOUIS       SECTOR 17 St Charles MO 314.230.2317  
                Wednesday-Saturday / 17up no alcohol               
CLEVELAND       SMART BAR 1575 Merwin Av 522.1575                 
		Wed (alt/techno) / Fri & Sat (techno/house) / always 19up
CLEVELAND       ALTER HOUSE / 1273 W 9th 781.4400
                Thu (acid/deep house) / Fri (alt) / Sat (whatever) / 18up
CLEVELAND       METROPOLIS 2325 Elm St 241.4007
                Sunday (the Church--hardcore/breakbeat--very cool!) / 18up
CINCINNATI      THE WAREHOUSE 1313 Vine St
                Wed 10-2 $2 / Thu 10-4 $2 (DJ Bob-A-Dob) / Fri 10-4 $3
 		Sat 10-4 $5
                Info: mjbutler@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu or
                      ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
CINCINNATI      JIVE ALIVE at R-CLUB on Calhoun near UC campus
                Monday (DJs MINDCANDY & DAISY)
CHICAGO         FOXIES                 
                Tuesday (DJ Spencer Kinzey)
CHICAGO         RED DOG           
                Wednesday (DJ Diz)
CHICAGO		SHELTER	564 W Fulton
	 	Thu-Sat (DJs TOM E & JOHN CURLEY underground/groove house)
CHICAGO		CROBAR N Kingsbury near W North
		Thu-Sat (DJs PSYCHO BITCH & TERRY BRISTOL techno/house)
DAYTON          THE PALACE CLUB 2346 Grange Hall Rd Beavercreek
                Monday, Wednesday, Thursday & Saturday / 8-2 / 18up
DAYTON          1470 WEST 1470 W Dorothy La Kettering
                Thursday (techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DAYTON	        CITY LIGHTS 1721 N Main St N Dayton
                Sunday (underground/techno) / 8-2.30 / 18up
DETROIT         HEAVEN Woodward & 7mi
                Saturday
DETROIT         1515 Broadway 313.245.4785
                Saturday
DETROIT         INDUSTRY 15 S Saginaw at Pike Pontiac MI 313.334.1999
                Friday
MADISON		CARDINAL BAR 418 E Wilson
		Sat (DJ MIKE CARLSON) 9-2pm
		Sun 6-10 (acid jazz DJ MIKE CARLSON) 10-2 (DJ CYKO-PHUK)
MILWAUKEE       at NITRO 500 W Water St 414.356.1360
		Wednesday (DJs MR BILL, ACID BOY TODD P & TOBY TYLER)
MINNEAPOLIS     CHAOS
		Friday & Saturday (hardcore techno)
MINNEAPOLIS     at FIRST AVENUE
		Tue (techno/indust) / Wed (hardcore techno)
		Sat & Sun (best nights) / Sun (all ages)
MINNEAPOLIS     GLAM SLAM (Prince's club)   
		Friday / 21up
MINNEAPOLIS     SALOON
		Sunday & Thursday
MINNEAPOLIS     THE FORBIDDEN EDGE 407 W Lake St
		Thur (hip-hop) / Fri & Sat (techno) / Sun (hip-hop) / 8-12
LEXINGTON       THE VIRTUAL GALLERY
    		Friday & Saturday / 2.30-4am

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send to ADDs and CORRECTs to:

	dan      modE@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
		 danF@des.uwm.edu


Daniel James Frederiksen
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                                                       modE@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
                                                            danF@des.uwm.edu

From ndc%isoprophlex.engin.umich.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 28 18:49:18 1993
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Status: OR


i found this outside on the ground today while walking to work..
it's probably in detroit, i haven't called it though so i don't know
for sure..


    OVERLOAD
     10.09.93
    MIDNIGHT

313.746.9644
  ozone


----

ozone is the group that put on HARDER and the train station thing, btw.


peace
andy

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aonther flyer....

OVERLOAD
Michigan State Fairgrounds
8 Mile Rd and Woodward
10.09.93 Detroit
Midnight
info Ozone 313.746.9644

regis

From johnw%sage.cc.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Tue Sep 28 20:50:45 1993
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	after reading this evenings posting i must agree with the person that 
said about raw bar (despite the sea food, DON'T EAT IT) is small some what
quiet so there for it would be a good place to get to know people.  also, they
have a tendency NOT TO CARD for those under the age of 21.  just as long as
your obviously under the age.  ie: if your 17 don't expect to get in.  there
is also the Punk and donuts down on clark and belmont.  the cops have been nice
up there recently and they don't card!!!  its really quiet and small, but its 
about 4 or 5 blocks south of the metro so it is kind of a strech 'o the legs.
just don't leave your car in the lot, or it won't be there when you return, 
unless your in the D&D itself.  so now that we've all these great ideas, how
about a vote.  but then again we've got 2 weeks before the show....so whats 
the rush?  hmmmmm....

the worms........
johnw

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My Home Is Your Home.....if you want to meet there - we could have an  
"mw-raves" cookin' fest - I got a couple of turnatables -a  shitty mixer bring  
your records and we coul;d have a good ol time....

--Kurt

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>My Home Is Your Home.....if you want to meet there....


sounds like a great idea...


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From: SPeCiMeN <ndc@engin.umich.edu>
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where: ann arbor, michigan
       1210 washtenaw court
       (where geddes curves on campus, across from the bus stops)

when: 11-12 -> ?

what: house, trance and other body shakin' by SPeCiMeN\SeLeKTOr
      hip hop interludes by jani & jibba

price: free.

huh?  it's a house party, nothing more. but the music
      should be cool.. plus the hostess wants a good dance vibe
      so people who are into the music are very welcome..
      she (and i) would be very happy if a large rave contingent showed
      up and grooved till the wee hours.. basically the music is gonna
      depend on what the crowd is into so the more techno-heads 
      the better, as far as i'm concerned.. hip hop is ok but you can
      hear that at any ann arbor party. step into the future.. 

lemme know if you're thinking of stopping by, email ndc@engin.umich.edu
or if you need directions or whatever..
or you can call me 313.663.4360


peace
andy

From ndc%macavity.engin.umich.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep 29 14:34:55 1993
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To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
Cc: trammell@engin.umich.edu
Subject: Re: nano-rave 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 29 Sep 1993 14:23:10 BST."
             <9309291823.AA23324@macavity.engin.umich.edu> 
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 14:30:58 +0100
From: SPeCiMeN <ndc@engin.umich.edu>
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oops.. suppose i shoulda put the date on this. let's try again:

houseparty volume i

where: ann arbor, michigan
       1210 washtenaw court
       (where geddes curves on campus, across from the bus stops)

when: 11-12 -> ?
      saturday october 2

what: house, trance and other psychadelic body shakin' by SPeCiMeN\SeLeKTOr
      hip hop interludes by jani & jibba

price: free.

huh?  it's a house party, nothing more. but the music
should be cool.. plus the hostess wants a good dance vibe
so people who are into the music are very welcome..
she (and i) would be very happy if a large rave contingent showed
up and grooved till the wee hours.. basically the music is gonna
depend on what the crowd is into so the more techno-heads 
the better, as far as i'm concerned.. hip hop is ok but you can
hear that at any ann arbor party. step into the future.. 

lemme know if you're thinking of stopping by, email ndc@engin.umich.edu
or if you need directions or whatever..
or you can call me 313.663.4360


peace
andy

From jemiller%sonata.cc.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep 29 09:39:05 1993
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From: jemiller@sonata.cc.purdue.edu
Subject: is is overload
To: phelanre@student.msu.edu (Regis C Phelan)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 9:30:59 EST
Cc: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu (midwest rave mailer)
In-Reply-To: <9309290023.AA17821@student4.cl.msu.edu>; from "Regis C Phelan" at Sep 28, 93 8:23 pm
Status: OR

> aonther flyer....
> 
> OVERLOAD

speaking of 'overload', has anyone heard the 'is is overload' 12
inch?  it is excellent, deep trance with a hint of tribal drums.
i would recommend it.  i think that it may only be available on
vinyl. 

-- 
-jonathan miller-jemiller@symphony.cc.purdue.edu

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Paul, the Anton monitor is acting up.  The edge of the screen has migrated near
ly to the middle, and the text scrolls around it.  Neat effect, but unreadable.
Please let me know if you have any ideas on how to fix it. Thank you.  Also,
I'd like to change my logon to Mobarry from Bruce.  If you could facilitate
that, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks, Bruce

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HI!! I'M RAVIN' RICK FROM I.U. COUNTRY!! WHO ELSE IS OUT THERE FROM
BLOOMINGTON? E-MAIL ME OR CALL ME AT 857-1409. LETS HOOK UP AND SET THE 
SCENE ON FIRE!!!

From ndc%isoprophlex.engin.umich.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep 29 18:01:30 1993
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 18:54:56 +0100
From: SPeCiMeN <ndc@engin.umich.edu>
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thanks to all y'all who expressed interest in coming to AA this
weekend..

one thing to remember is that it is only a house party in
a medium sized house that can probably only hold a hundred people or so.
the dance room maybe twenty or thirty, plus the basement will have speakers
in it, so maybe another twenty or thirty..

just don't want people to get the wrong idea (or show up with more than
a carload or two of their closest friends ;)

peace
andy

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did i send out the date for that houseparty nano-rave thing?
i thought i sent a second message but now i'm not so sure..
october 2.. THIS SATURDAY. 


andy

From kenchi%cmb.biosci.wayne.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep 29 14:41:59 1993
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On Wed, 29 Sep 1993, SPeCiMeN wrote:

> 
> 
> where: ann arbor, michigan
>        1210 washtenaw court
>        (where geddes curves on campus, across from the bus stops)
> 
> when: 11-12 -> ?
> 
> what: house, trance and other body shakin' by SPeCiMeN\SeLeKTOr
>       hip hop interludes by jani & jibba
> 
> price: free.
> 


Sounds cool- I'll probably be there...
Any other people from Detroit area wanna carpool? I got a car.

Andy, could you send brief directions? I'm pretty familiar w/A.Arbor,
but I just want to make sure.

Thanks.

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/     \  \  \   || -=-=-=-=-  +---------------------------------------++
|   o  |  |  |  || e-mail: kenchi@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu  <-- try first ||
\     /  /  /   ||     or: skc0806@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu              ||
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From johnw%sage.cc.purdue.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep 29 19:28:48 1993
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purdue students:
i'm going up to the orb concert also, i've a car; a chevette.  i've spots for
three people in my car. not more then that (sorry, its is a chevette mind u)
so if your interested call (the easiest way) or write rides are to those on
a first call or email, first serve basis. so if you are in need call 743-3413
ask for john.  hoefully by then we will have figure out if and where everyone
else is planning to meet....

so don't delay and make sure you leave a message too on the "evil machine"
johnw

From bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu Wed Sep 29 20:18:47 1993
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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf)
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Hi!  I run the rave archive site at techno.stanford.edu... I had asked Mike
Brown about the MW-Raves archives, and I guess he sent out a feeler and found
you :)  Anyways, if you want to put them up, put them in /pub/incoming
(I think you can even make a directory in /pub/incoming if you wish), and
send me mail here or at bbehlen@techno.stanford.edu, and I'll move it over
to /pub/raves/archives/mwraves.  Sound good, ja?

        Brian

p.s. - I have Gopher set up, but for some dang reason it can't read .gz files.
techno.stanford is a Sparc 1+ running SunOS 4.1.1 - any idea what the problem
might be?

(don't worry, I ask everyone this :)

From vile%il.us.swissbank.com@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Wed Sep 29 22:02:58 1993
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So How Many of you are going to evolution?

I am - 


--Kurt

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Saturday October, 30th
Halloween night
Chicago, Il

FREAKS IN OUR HOUSE

with:

Farley "JackMaster" Funk - the godfather of house
returning from the UK for a special 1 night apperance

Richie Rich Hawtain
>From The Motor City

Derick Carter, Lego, Frique, Diz, Gene Farris 

+ others

ALSO!

A special tribue to the legendary RON HARDY

cal 312-509-2969 

313-358-9872 or
414-777-3969 for more info

--Kurt

From bfeldman%students.wisc.edu@srvr5.engin.umich.edu Thu Sep 30 18:29:34 1993
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here's a couple more-

SKYLAB     10.16.93  Appleton, WI
------------------=-=
IN-HOUSE PRODUCTIONS

Trance and House DJ's:
Tony Garcia (chicago)
TOK (New Mexico)
Mind Drive (Cincinnati) <<-------[hmmmm....i thought he was in wisconsin]
Jedidiah the Messiah (milw.)
Smoove (milw.)
Synergy (Sheboygan)

Info:  414-730-1519

*btw--Appleton is about 2 hours from madison and 3 from chicago
*i'll probably be going home that weekend, so if anyone wants to go, i'll be
driving from madison
-boris
-----------------------------------------

CRASH WORSHIP   OCT. 23
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Crisp Productions / Mindcore Media

1-312-509-5007

*no more info, presumably in chicago
---------------------------------------

peas,
boris

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I'm new to the net...
       a friend of mine suggested i inquire about hooking up w/ u
               please forward any inm--
hi


From Al.Kolman%kksys.mn.org@f62.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com Thu Sep 30 07:11:03 1993
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I hope all you Chicago eventgoers check out ESP Woody McBride at the upcoming
events (I, of course, have already deleted my calendar, so I can't give the
date, etc - smart one, AL..).  Great Minneapolis DJ and general destroyer of the
Aural Canal.

--
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From: minister so sinister <Paul.S.Rhee.1@nd.edu>
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hey


yeah, i wanno go to evolution this weekend, but i'm here alone in
south bend, indiana....have a car, but can't bear to go alone.......
....anyone interested in going?

talk to me kidz...


paul.


___________________________________________________________
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Drop Bass Is running it - Of COurse its reliable!
Kurt always throws good parties ;)

--Kurt

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Sorry to bother the whole list, but..

Here in Columbus we seem to have lost contact with a couple of our
Cincinnati pals.    If anybody knows how to get hold of Ian Ritchie (boInk?)
or Jen Rawers, please respond by email.  Thanks.

Mike

Mike J. Brown                        _  ___ ______________Approach and Identify
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>>> So How Many of you are going to evolution?


Is that the event on this saturday....

I lost the flyer could anyone post it?

Thanx in advance,

Mike.


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>>>  but i'm here alone in...

We can all meet there.....

By the way could you post me a phone numbers of info lines for Evolution....?


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leave me

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I just called all the info lines in chicago for Evolution, and
none of them seems to be in service....


Numbers I used:

  (312) 509 4902
  (312) 853 2098 (ext 287)
  (708) 786 3942


Are this they correct?....



JUSTIFIED AND ANCIENT ===============================
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Hi! I'm Ravin' Rick from Bloomington, In. All you other Bloomington ravers 
give me a holler at 857-1409 or email me. Let's Party!!!

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>> I just called all the info lines in chicago for Evolution, and
>> none of them seems to be in service....

They were a few days ago (the 312 #s anyway).

>> Are this they correct?....

That they are. I gathered that I needed to call back on the day of the
event for more info. 


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Subject: drop bass vs. gravity
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I just called the Madison rave line, only to hear some apologetic message
from Gravity to Drop Bass.  Does this have anything to do with last
weekend's Biofunk (which I didn't go to)?  Anyone have the scoop on this
one?

-jen

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312.509.4902 is not in service (just called). 312.853.2098 ext 287 is;
the message apologized that the other 312 number and the 708 number
(which I did not check) listed on the flyer were not in service. It
said to call back that extension, or Drop Bass Network in Milwaukee,
for more information as it became available.

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Please unsubscribe me.


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From: randy@anywhere.umd.edu (Randy Koster)
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Subject: Ravin' in RI
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Who is going from the OH, KY Area?? This sounds really great..and 
I'd love to go..sounds like the amusement park of my dreams
with uhm..thousands of my closest friends? :)
Sasha

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Subject: Re: mideon
To: gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gregory M. Kus)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 14:21:17 -0500 (CDT)
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>From the cyberdeck of Gregory M. Kus...
::
::Hey.. there... how was mideon??? and where was it?? Genesis was chill out
::in the farm... how about this place?? I would admit that Drop Bass has
::some excellent productions.. 
::Just wondering the details on Mideon.. let me know thanks.

hey there...

Sorry I didn't respond any sooner.  I've got way too much stuff going this
semester.  But, what's new about that.  ;-)

Mideon was very cool!  It was held in the same venue as One and it's the
perfect place for a split event like what Drop Bass did for Mideon.  They
had two separate PA systems facing away from each other; one running ALL
hardcore and the other running house, (semi)trance, basically fun, smiley,
shake-yur-bootey kinda stuph.  Guess where I hung out while I was there.

Melissa and I had to leave kinda early 'cause she wasn't feeling very well,
but while we were there ('til ~3am) we had a blast; the vibe was thick even
though there were tons of gangstas hanging out along the walls.  I didn't
care.  I just dance up to them and gave them a few Pixy-Stix.  Ok, so I'm
naive.  Guys just wanna have fun, eh?  =)

Hrmm, what else.  We didn't have to stand in line outside very long but
that didn't really matter because there was a *HUGE* bonfire (no vanities)_
a-blazing-a-way just behind the big barn.  And about the barn; it's about a
block long and probably 100' wide and about the same tall.  Quite the space
for a big event.  The one thing I was very happy about was it was a mix of
people; Chicago and Milwaukee.  But I could have done without the gangstas,
ya know?  I mean...  well, I could go on about the gang-related shit, but
they're a waste of bandwidth, IMHO.

I got to dance with Yusef, from Madison, and Steve from Marquette
University, again.  It was very good to see you guys!  Sorry I couldn't find
y'all to say g'bye.  Also, I felt that the crowd lacked the club-scene for
some strange reason.  Who knows, just lucky I guess.

Ya know I just realized something; I haven't written a review of an event
for quite some time.  I'm not sure why.  Anyway...

I had a chat with a good friend of mine over at our place last night.  We
were talking about how things seemed to have changed over the last couple of
years as far as the impetus for people to organize raves and such.
I'm wondering if we can get some dialogue going on this.  I know it's been
brought up before, but I'm curious to see what the list's consensus is now
since the last time this thread evolved.

BTW, this is also going out to the mw-raves list (as if you couldn't tell).
I didn't think you'd mind at all.  Cheers...



o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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Subject: re: Evolution
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>From the cyberdeck of Kurt Vile...
::
::So How Many of you are going to evolution?
::
::I am - 

As per usual, it's hard to say.  Does anyone know if the folks running this
one are trustworthy?  I guess I should look back at the e-flyer and see if I
recognize any of those running it.  Or maybe I'm even putting my e-foot in
my e-mouth, again.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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Subject: re: Evolution
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By the way, if we do go I'll be wearing my mw-raves badge thingy and most
likely a red&green hat with some 8-ball billiard thingy on the front so I
stick out nicely in the crowd.  Not like being 6'-3" tall doesn't already do
that.  

Hey, is it just me or does it seem like most people at raves are a lot
shorter than I am?    ;-)


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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Subject: re: Evolution
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>From the cyberdeck of Michael Dvorkin...
::
::I just called all the info lines in chicago for Evolution, and
::none of them seems to be in service....
::
::
::Numbers I used:
::
::  (312) 509 4902
::  (312) 853 2098 (ext 287)
::  (708) 786 3942
::
::
::Are this they correct?....

Dunno, but howz-about trying the Milwaukee line at 414.256.1733?  It' Drop
Bass and they've got the shit on it.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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>From the cyberdeck of JEN THOMAS...
::
::I just called the Madison rave line, only to hear some apologetic message
::from Gravity to Drop Bass.  Does this have anything to do with last
::weekend's Biofunk (which I didn't go to)?  Anyone have the scoop on this
::one?

All I know is what I got from Drop Bass' info line.  The thingy only lasted
a few hours, *NO* live act(s) and no after-hours.  I think since Gravity ran
something a while ago (Rave Krispees?) and this was also a silly thing,
maybe it would be wise to avoid events sponsored by Gravity.  Drop Bass raves
always rock (IMHO) so what they do is as close to a guaranteed event as one
can get.


o v e r h e a t   m y   d a t a s i n k
steve j white
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu

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In Message Thu, 30 Sep 93 12:08 CDT,
  JEN THOMAS <THOMAS%EPIDAT.DecNet@wigate.nic.wisc.edu> writes:

>I just called the Madison rave line, only to hear some apologetic message
>from Gravity to Drop Bass.  Does this have anything to do with last
>weekend's Biofunk (which I didn't go to)?  Anyone have the scoop on this
>one?
>
>-jen
If it's the same one i heard ("...we're going to make it up to you by
throwing another all-night party, ...[more bullshit]...[more bullshit]..."),
then it is because of biofucked.
The party was held at a club until 2.
Then they handed out tickets to the after party to certain people.
Presumably this would have controlled the number of people at the after
party (a shitty thing to do anyways, considering you're screwing some of the
people who paid you $13).  However, they announced to everyone where the
afterparty was anyways, and let people in without tickets.  Sounds like a
good idea, right?
What they apparently didn't care about was the fact that they had 1300
people and the club for the afterparty only had a capacity of about 600.  So
everyone went to the afterparty, and around 3, the club had hit capacity and
they stopped letting people in.  There were still a couple of hundred people
crammed in the hall and outside waiting.  Of course, this is a bust waiting
to happen--a police cruiser rolled by, saw all the people, and within 30
minutes it was busted for fire code violations.
This whole thing could have been avoided if the promoter had gotten his head
out of his ass and cared enough about the people paying $13 to go to his
party to secure a big enough space.  On the info line, he apolgizes and
blames it on the club owner, saying that he didn't get the proper
permits--this seems like a bunch of horseshit, since the promoter probably
knew that the club could only hold 600--it had nothing to do with permits,
just common sense.  He goes on to say that they will make it up to us by
throwing another party--gee, one i can pay $13 for again, i hope--thanks
shithead.

Of course, the above is just my opinion, and i could be wrong about the
facts, so if anyone knows anything contrary please let me know.

peas,
boris

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Subject: regarding our calendar...
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I've noticed people are losing their calendars...  replace your lost
calendars with an up-to-date copy by sending mail with the subject
'mwravescalendar' (no variations) to:

		modE@convex.csd.uwm.edu
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Sending your request to 'mode@csd4.csd.uwm.edu' will not work.  
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