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Subject: [mw] midi love gun?

http://www.midigun.com/midiGunchart.htm

not sure what to make of it other than to lump it in the category with the
turntable you wear like a geeter.....

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Subject: [mw] Bass & BBQ 3 in Fort Wayne, IN this Saturday

BASS & BBQ 3 
Fort Wayne, IN 08/06/05 

In The Main Room: 

Bryan Jones
Chicago, IL :: House :: www.djbryanjones.com

(Jackin Tracks, Fetish Recordings, Sure Player, In
Stereo, Blowmedia, Olive, Nocturnal, Ammo, Funkteck,
Moody, Carizma, Nine, A-Squared, Dirty Fabric,
Dlectable, Bunchlox, Guesthouse, Kontrast, Dirty
Olive, Discofried, Boulevard Status, HC Recordings.)

Bryan Jones began his dj/production career seven years
ago and hasn’t let up for a second since then. He got
his first taste of djing out of town five years ago
and started playing steadily around the Midwest. Then
after moving to Chicago to take college audio classes
he hooked up with long time friend Mike Gillenwater
who was in Chicago for the same reason. Together, they
started their group “High Caliber” and within a month
or two after starting their project together, they had
already signed multiple releases to domestic and
overseas labels. Since then over fifty of their
original songs and remixes have been released on vinyl
and more are on the way. 

Bryan’s music has already been played and charted by
pretty much everyone in the industry including Derrick
Carter, DJ Dan, Mark Farina, Bad Boy Bill, Paul Van
Dyke, Judge Jules, Paul Johnson, Pete Tong, Fergie, DJ
Funk, Joey Beltram, and many more. Just recently Bryan
has started his solo production career and there will
be many releases to show for it in 2005. So far since
February, Bryan has worked out deals with many
different record labels in the US and overseas for
future solo projects.

Bryan has also received a lot of press with his
productions in his group High Caliber in magazines
like URB, DJ Mag, XLR8R, BPM, Big Shot Mag, Nocturnal
Magazine, DMA, and countless online reviews and
chartings. In fact, High Caliber’s name is in the
current issue (March 2005) of URB, BPM, and Big Shot
Magazine right now for their new release on DJ Dan’s
“Instereo” label.

This year Bryan plans to pursue his solo production
career and continue with his dj bookings that have
already taken him to San Francisco, Dallas, Detroit,
Miami, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Sacramento, Madison,
Grand Rapids, Indianapolis, and many more. His dj
mixes have reached thousands of house fans by means of
mix cds, online downloads, and years of promotion.
Bryan’s many styles allow him to adapt to any
dancefloor without ever disappointing. He has played
everywhere from underground deep house clubs to big
room all ages events, and his experience shows in
every one of his dj sets.


Eclipse
Fort Wayne, IN :: Noize Boyz :: House
Make sure to come check out the Fort Wayne House
favorite, Eclipse! Making a sizzling appearance here @
Bass & BBQ, his set is sure to set the crowd on fire!

Symmetric 
Ft. Wayne, IN :: Noize Boyz :: Techno
His driving techno will get you movin' in no time!
Non-stop thumpin'! Trust us, you will FEEL this set.

Omega 
Ft. Wayne, IN :: Noize Boyz :: Florida Breakz ::
www.djomega.com
Unbelievable Florida Breakz from the midwest breakz
master himself! Come see the Omega-meister kick it
once again.

Matt Bell
Ft. Wayne, IN :: Noize Boyz :: Techno :: 1200x3
**Finesse.** 3 decks, non-stop bangin techno. You will
be impressed with this dude's skillz behind 3 wheels.

Kanigit
Ft. Wayne, IN :: Noize Boyz :: Drum & Bass
Drivin' & Jazzy DnB, Kanigit can put it DOWN! All you
180bpm fans make sure not to miss this one!

deflipo
Ft. Wayne, IN :: Noize Boyz :: Techno
Another Fort Wayne favorite... awesome track
selection, great mixing skills.

Indecision
Ft. Wayne, IN :: Hardcore
Breaking his way into the scene comes Indecision. All
you hardcore heads will appreciate. 


With Special Guests:

Hobbes
Ft. Wayne, IN

Aiden Michael
Ft. Wayne, IN

Premise One
Ft. Wayne, IN

The FINALE is HERE! This party is going to be
IN-FRIGGIN-SANE. Come check out the LAST of the Bass &
BBQ parties for the summer. Great DJ's, drink
specials, yada yada yada. This is one sick party. Come
experience the best show with the most solid audio /
visual effects Fort Wayne has seen in a great while!

THIS EVENT IS NOT ONE TO BE MISSED!!!

PJs Sports Pub
5520 Decatur Rd. (right behind Scotts on Lafayette)

**$7 Cover :: Bangin' sound, awesome visuals :: 2
areas chock full of talent. 

Thanks to all who have attended the first 2 and made
the series a great success! We WILL be back...

-- The Infamous NB & the General and the Grillmaster

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Subject: [mw] FEMA DIRECTOR: MORON:


Read and be amazed..

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html

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Subject: RE: [mw] FEMA DIRECTOR: MORON:

Wow.. Yeah! Speaking of amazed...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/020905fedsbar.htm

wft!  I honestly cannot fathom what it would be like down there.  I almost 
broke into tears reading a story about a mother telling a stranger getting 
on a bus for Houston to "take my baby, please!!".  These people are 
Americans and they're slowly dying.  Nobody in government seems to have the 
balls to act.  And if you believe the story above, it sounds like they don't 
want any citizens to help either!  All I hear is, donate money to Red Cross, 
United Way or pick your favorite charity.  Yeah, that's really going to help 
these people!!! C'mon, get a fuckin clue people!  These people need massive 
help from as many people as possible, right NOW.  Charity money isn't going 
to do shit until MAYBE months from now.  Wow, talk about frustrating...

Although this is trife compared to the above mentioned, we seem to have a 
serious gas shortage going on too...
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2005-09-02-hurricane-gas-questions-usat_x.htm

/ryan

>Read and be amazed..
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I was watching some stupid morning show today and they were mentioning the=
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President's visit to "The Big Easy" (is irony considered poor taste?) and=
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how he spent most of his time on air discussing gas prices.

What a jackass. Then they explained it away saying that's what concerned=20
most people. I really hope thats not the case and hope I'm not the only one=
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who feels insulted. To me this seems on par if not a greater tragedy than=
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9-11 in regards to amount of lives affected and the property damage done. I=
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doesn't provoke quite the same emotional response as it was an arbitrary=20
force of nature and not a planned attack.=20

-Tad

On 9/2/05, Ryan Summers <plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> on a bus for Houston to "take my baby, please!!". These people are
> Americans and they're slowly dying. Nobody in government seems to have th=
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> balls to act. And if you believe the story above, it sounds like they=20
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> want any citizens to help either! All I hear is, donate money to Red=20
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> United Way or pick your favorite charity. Yeah, that's really going to=20
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> these people!!! C'mon, get a fuckin clue people! These people need massiv=
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> to do shit until MAYBE months from now. Wow, talk about frustrating...
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questions-usat_x.htm
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909
Friday Sept 9
Des Moines, IA

In response to the tragedy caused by Hurricane Katrina, $1 of everyone's 
admission to this event will be donated to a disaster relief fund.

In honor of the Roland TR-909 and the Impact it has made on our music, The 
Next Wave presents a Des Moines Vs. Kansas City Techno Showdown, featuring some 
of the best Techno djs both cities have to offer.

Representing KC:
SOLARIS - Techno Justice League/ Djsolaris.com
SYNNISTER - Syde-Sho.com

Representing Des Moines:
NNOTHING - Techno Justice League/ SublunaryAM.com
TNT - Twilight World

 9 pm-2am
$5 at the door @the Vaudeville Mews 212 4th Street Downtown Des Moines
24 hour info line:  515.830.1893

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http://www.troutsoup.com/photos/sillyshit/1121184850_i_3998
 
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Subject: [mw] hawtin in Detroit

WTF?

Anyone go? How was it?

  Someone? Anyone? Pictures? Recordings?

(0_o)



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I didn't take any pictures or recordings... but it was a good time. Lasted=
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Yeah, that's riddiculous... gas should be the least of our worries at the 
moment, collectively speaking.  Of course, I can't help but note king Bush's 
solution to the current gas problem...

"If you don't need gas, don't buy it."

There you go!  Problem solved... NEXT!

It boggles my mind that a nation so worried about diaster from seemingly 
invisible terrorists would neglect to prepare for such natural disasters.

/ryan

>I was watching some stupid morning show today and they were mentioning the
>President's visit to "The Big Easy" (is irony considered poor taste?) and
>how he spent most of his time on air discussing gas prices.
>
>What a jackass. Then they explained it away saying that's what concerned
>most people. I really hope thats not the case and hope I'm not the only one
>who feels insulted. To me this seems on par if not a greater tragedy than
>9-11 in regards to amount of lives affected and the property damage done. 
>It
>doesn't provoke quite the same emotional response as it was an arbitrary
>force of nature and not a planned attack.
>
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> > Wow.. Yeah! Speaking of amazed...
> >
> > http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/020905fedsbar.htm
> >
> > wft! I honestly cannot fathom what it would be like down there. I almost
> > broke into tears reading a story about a mother telling a stranger 
>getting
> > on a bus for Houston to "take my baby, please!!". These people are
> > Americans and they're slowly dying. Nobody in government seems to have 
>the
> > balls to act. And if you believe the story above, it sounds like they
> > don't
> > want any citizens to help either! All I hear is, donate money to Red
> > Cross,
> > United Way or pick your favorite charity. Yeah, that's really going to
> > help
> > these people!!! C'mon, get a fuckin clue people! These people need 
>massive
> > help from as many people as possible, right NOW. Charity money isn't 
>going
> > to do shit until MAYBE months from now. Wow, talk about frustrating...
> >
> > Although this is trife compared to the above mentioned, we seem to have 
>a
> > serious gas shortage going on too...
> >
> > 
>http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2005-09-02-hurricane-gas-questions-usat_x.htm
> >
> > /ryan
> >
> > >Read and be amazed..
> > >
> > >http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html
> > >
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It was a good show. The Masonic Temple was a great
venue, and the sound was top notch.
I think Richie's set was mostly Ableton and the
CTRL:92, although he did use Final Scratch a bit. His
music was good, but it seemed he did too much
grandstanding with his CTRL:92, he never let a bass
line roll for more than 64 bars, so there was more
breakdowns and effects tweaks than actual tracks. I
would describe it as 90% chitterbeep and 10% whompa.
Or you could say his set was like a Ford: it was
broken down more than it was running. All complaining
aside, it was still impressive to see all the
technology at work, and the integration of the MIDI
control in his mixer with Ableton. His music was good,
and when it was full-on, there was no way I could not
dance.


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All,

  Ok, so after moving here to Phoenix, the major drawback that I have found 
is that these fuckers have no interest in techno at all.. Its all about 
Chicago House and trance. The house side I can some what stand(well, that is 
until I had some jackass trying to convince me that Bad Boy Bill was the 
greatest DJ Ever), but the trance thing is starting to grate on my last 
nerve. Anyhow, back to the point.. I need some new Techno sets. I have 
bandwidth out the ying yang, just need some new ideas for things to 
download, sets, tracks, anything. List anything, just advise me ASAP...

  Cant take it much longer..

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It was glorious.

According to the website/flyer it was supposed to run
until 4am, but Hawtin didn't drop his last track until
quarter past five.

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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA12843661125997597A0?source=PA%20Feed&ct=5

"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 
'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made 
signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said 
'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
http://www.rense.com/general67/cit.htm

Ok, so it appears that most authorities, despite what is publically stated 
in press briefings are just letting people die.  Not only that, but they are 
turning away groups of citizens who are equiped for search and rescue.  Wow, 
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All,

  Someone out there uploaded some great sets.. Info on them please?

Thank you

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This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it might sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to overthrow the government with all this happening. This is beyond repulsion what they are NOT doing for these people.
 
And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where the doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs preventing people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read clearly? Has my brain fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is Cunt...I mean Bush, sending people with guns to a place that needs people armed with blankies and yum yums?
 
On a side note: I really should consider posting my dreams everday...I could go into business...I had a dream two weeks before the hurricane about bein' in the Bayou, walkin my ass off, and reaching the shore and standing there, looking into the Gulf of Mexico and watching all my shit get carried off like the waves of water were alive or somethin. I refered to it as my Gulf of Mexico Dream. I told 8 people. I hate posting that. It's sick. It makes me fuckin sick. Anyone else having weird moments of clarity, strange phenomena, clairvoancy? Are we evolving yet? Why can't we hurry up already; I'm getting antsy and the governments get more evil. Aaahhh, where's the carebears when ya need 'em? They could fix it all up with a CareBearStare>>>>>>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~ = )


Ryan Summers <plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA12843661125997597A0?source=PA%20Feed&ct=5

"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 
'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made 
signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said 
'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
http://www.rense.com/general67/cit.htm

Ok, so it appears that most authorities, despite what is publically stated 
in press briefings are just letting people die. Not only that, but they are 
turning away groups of citizens who are equiped for search and rescue. Wow, 
I'm just speachless at this point.

/ryan



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I had a dream around the same time frame (about 2 weeks before the
hurricane) that I was in a big storm. Rain, thunder, lightning. I was
trapped in my house (well, wasn't my house, don't know where it was) and
I couldn't go downstairs (I didn't know why not in the dream).  It could
have been connected. Then again, it could have just been a dream about a
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Funny you should mention dreams.

I had a dream Monday night last week where I was driving a tank around in a 
town where the streets were all water.  It seemed like Venice, but it was 
more swampy and definatly not Europe.  The streets were more or less 
deserted.  I went over bridges and into tunnels and finally the tank got 
stuck in the mud (I don't know how this would happen).  This was before I 
read that New Orleans was 80% flooded and the military was called in.  Kind 
of spooked me when I heard that at first.

/ryan

>This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it might 
>sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to overthrow 
>the government with all this happening. This is beyond repulsion what they 
>are NOT doing for these people.
>
>And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where the 
>doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs preventing 
>people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read clearly? Has my brain 
>fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is Cunt...I mean Bush, 
>sending people with guns to a place that needs people armed with blankies 
>and yum yums?
>
>On a side note: I really should consider posting my dreams everday...I 
>could go into business...I had a dream two weeks before the hurricane about 
>bein' in the Bayou, walkin my ass off, and reaching the shore and standing 
>there, looking into the Gulf of Mexico and watching all my shit get carried 
>off like the waves of water were alive or somethin. I refered to it as my 
>Gulf of Mexico Dream. I told 8 people. I hate posting that. It's sick. It 
>makes me fuckin sick. Anyone else having weird moments of clarity, strange 
>phenomena, clairvoancy? Are we evolving yet? Why can't we hurry up already; 
>I'm getting antsy and the governments get more evil. Aaahhh, where's the 
>carebears when ya need 'em? They could fix it all up with a 
>CareBearStare>>>>>>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~ = )
>
>
>Ryan Summers <plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA12843661125997597A0?source=PA%20Feed&ct=5
>
>"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying
>'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and 
>made
>signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said
>'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."
>
>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
>http://www.rense.com/general67/cit.htm
>
>Ok, so it appears that most authorities, despite what is publically stated
>in press briefings are just letting people die. Not only that, but they are
>turning away groups of citizens who are equiped for search and rescue. Wow,
>I'm just speachless at this point.
>
>/ryan
>
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 11:05:15 -0700, Annette Kubernus  
<trippy_pippi@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it  
> might sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to  
> overthrow the government with all this happening. This is beyond  
> repulsion what they are NOT doing for these people.
> And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where  
> the doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs  
> preventing people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read  
> clearly? Has my brain fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is  
> Cunt...I mean Bush, sending people with guns to a place that needs  
> people armed with blankies and yum yums?


Are you an idiot?

The snipers were thugs trying to take over the bellsouth building, not  
government agents.




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I see that you still have not given MushroomLand a visit.
 
Do you actually have a source for this information (let's see), or are you pulling it out of your ass? And IF that is the case, it does not disregard the fact that people are being prevented from being helped and that this is a ridiculous situation. These people need chefs, not gunsmen.
 
Also, whatever source that says they're thugs....are you sure? BIg Media is controlled & dictated by the government anyway. (It's an actual written law, NOT a conspiracy theory.) It could still be gov't. officials pretending to be thugs.


DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
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wrote:

> This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it 
> might sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to 
> overthrow the government with all this happening. This is beyond 
> repulsion what they are NOT doing for these people.
> And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where 
> the doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs 
> preventing people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read 
> clearly? Has my brain fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is 
> Cunt...I mean Bush, sending people with guns to a place that needs 
> people armed with blankies and yum yums?


Are you an idiot?

The snipers were thugs trying to take over the bellsouth building, not 
government agents.




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<DIV>Do you actually have a source for this information (let's see), or are you pulling it out of your ass?&nbsp;And IF that is the case, it does not disregard the fact that people are being prevented from being helped and that this is a ridiculous situation. These people need chefs, not gunsmen.</DIV>
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on the topic of recording dreams, check out http://abatons.org

i think you'll like it.

i've been dreaming more lately, too, but it's more along the lines of 
people i haven't seen in awhile (my 10 year h.s. reunion is coming up in 
november).  i had quite a few more apocalyptic dreams a few years ago... 
lots of them to do with water.  in one, i was riding with a friend in a 
car on water street in milwaukee while the city around me was engulfed 
in flames.

another, i was trying to catch bombs that were dropping before they 
hit the ground.  that one started out as a party where i took some 
acid.  in my dream, it worked.
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while some of these stories i'm hearing REALLY suck, it seems like 
conscientious people are gearing up to help, if they're not 
already... not sure what to say if people are trying to prevent that 
from occurring.

obviously, the confusion and emotional trauma this hurricane has caused 
MANY people is a huge part of it.  i can imagine that kind of force of 
nature bringing out more primal behaviours in people (to say the least). 
not that that's a justification...  how are the other animals coping?

http://www.nola.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/print075568.html
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/daywin/antball.jpg

those are from http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1655057

even if there was a detailed plan for this type of catastrophe, i wonder 
how likely it is that anyone could really have stuck to it... i dunno. 
i have to believe people will pick up any percieved "slack".  imagine 
all the real work that will have to be done for things to get back to 
"normal"...

this passage from _path to tranquility_ comes to mind:

"July 2: First we must help; then, later we can talk about the causes of 
any tragedy. There is an Indian saying: if you are struck by a poisonous 
arrow, it is important first to pull it out; there is not time to ask 
who shot it, what sort of poison it is, and so on. First handle the 
immediate problem, and later investigate. Similarly, when we encounter 
human suffering, it is important to respond with compassion rather than 
to question the politics of those we help."

habitat for humanity struck me as a possible way to get involved down 
the road, if there's nothing more that can immediately be done.

also, it got me wondering about natural disasters of a similar magnitude 
that stand a chance of happening in our area.  i've been hearing about 
the yellowstone "super volcano"... and also recently read about the new 
madrid fault line that runs through the midwest.  evidently there's a 
90% chance of a major quake in the region by 2040.

tornadoes and floods happen all the time here... i can't see one of 
those affecting as large an area.  still, something to consider.

chad

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Annette Kubernus wrote:

> This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it 
>might sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to 
>overthrow the government with all this happening. This is beyond 
>repulsion what they are NOT doing for these people.
>
> And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where 
>the doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs 
>preventing people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read 
>clearly? Has my brain fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is 
>Cunt...I mean Bush, sending people with guns to a place that needs 
>people armed with blankies and yum yums?
>
> On a side note: I really should consider posting my dreams everday...I 
>could go into business...I had a dream two weeks before the hurricane 
>about bein' in the Bayou, walkin my ass off, and reaching the shore and 
>standing there, looking into the Gulf of Mexico and watching all my 
>shit get carried off like the waves of water were alive or somethin. I 
>refered to it as my Gulf of Mexico Dream. I told 8 people. I hate 
>posting that. It's sick. It makes me fuckin sick. Anyone else having 
>weird moments of clarity, strange phenomena, clairvoancy? Are we 
>evolving yet? Why can't we hurry up already; I'm getting antsy and the 
>governments get more evil. Aaahhh, where's the carebears when ya need 
>'em? They could fix it all up with a CareBearStare>>>>>>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~ 
>= )
>
>
> Ryan Summers <plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA12843661125997597A0?source=PA%20Feed&ct=5
>
> "At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel 
>saying
> 'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' 
>and made
> signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they 
>said
> 'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."
>
> 
>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
> http://www.rense.com/general67/cit.htm
>
> Ok, so it appears that most authorities, despite what is publically 
>stated
> in press briefings are just letting people die. Not only that, but 
>they are
> turning away groups of citizens who are equiped for search and rescue. 
>Wow,
> I'm just speachless at this point.
>
> /ryan
>
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DJ Entropy wrote:

> Are you an idiot?
>
> The snipers were thugs trying to take over the bellsouth building, 
> not  government agents.

They could also have been people firing guns into the air to get the 
attention of rescue helicopters.  Sounds stupid, but entirely plausible.

FAA spokespeople are claiming that they've seen no reports of aircraft 
being fired upon.

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I agree that blame is often a distraction in instances such as this and it 
just adds to the spin, propaganda and outright misinformation.  
Unfortunately, I feel that most people do not understand the extent to which 
the state and law enforement prevented help to the citizens of New Orleans.  
I think this is something that everybody needs to be aware of.

Realize that in the minds of some of these neo-nazi police and state 
officials we are "useless eaters".  This message is also perpetuated 
somewhat by the big media with the idea that "these people should have got 
out when the city was first evacuated, so we should blame the victims".  I 
realize that it was probably a stupid thing to not leave in the event of an 
evacuation, but some of these people had little means of transportation.  
Others probably had nowhere else to go or no money for a hotel.

I'm sorry to paint such a bleak picture of what has happened down there, but 
I think this is something everybody should ponder.  It is no longer the poor 
of foriegn countries who are getting shit on, it is the poor everywhere and 
the USA is not excluded.

I think this piece exemplefies the situation of many people stuck in New 
Orleans last week...
http://www.emsnetwork.org/artman/publish/article_18337.shtml

We all need to realize that there is little that any of us can do to help 
people when the full force of the State prevents it.  Even the most 
altruistic individuals can be turned away with a gun.  Perhaps it is time we 
rid ourselves of this institution?  The State like many things is ultimately 
a fiction, so why not change the story? (easier said than done eh?)

If people think that it would take a natural diaster for this to happen 
again, I would say that a major supply disruption in the gas lines, the grid 
or any other major power source would be enough to tip the scales in most 
places.  I don't think this senario is so far fetched anymore.

I think Habitat for Humanity would be a great way to help in the long term, 
but I'm not completely convinced they are going to return the property of 
that city back to it's citizens.  I hope they do, but I have a sick feeling 
these people are going to be pushed around in concentration camps for 
awhile.

I think the best way to take something positive away from all of this is to 
keep the mindset that there is not some officer friendly or government 
agency that looks out for our well being.  It would be best to take 
responsibility for ourselves in the event of a disaster, which means we 
should all be prepared on some level.  I'm not saying everybody should start 
building bomb shelters and stocking food and water, but maybe get to know 
your neighbors, so in an event such as this you can pool resources and 
minds.  Just a thought.

/ryan

>while some of these stories i'm hearing REALLY suck, it seems like 
>conscientious people are gearing up to help, if they're not already... not 
>sure what to say if people are trying to prevent that from occurring.
>
>obviously, the confusion and emotional trauma this hurricane has caused 
>MANY people is a huge part of it.  i can imagine that kind of force of 
>nature bringing out more primal behaviours in people (to say the least). 
>not that that's a justification...  how are the other animals coping?
>
>http://www.nola.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/print075568.html
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v497/daywin/antball.jpg
>
>those are from http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1655057
>
>even if there was a detailed plan for this type of catastrophe, i wonder 
>how likely it is that anyone could really have stuck to it... i dunno. i 
>have to believe people will pick up any percieved "slack".  imagine all the 
>real work that will have to be done for things to get back to "normal"...
>
>this passage from _path to tranquility_ comes to mind:
>
>"July 2: First we must help; then, later we can talk about the causes of 
>any tragedy. There is an Indian saying: if you are struck by a poisonous 
>arrow, it is important first to pull it out; there is not time to ask who 
>shot it, what sort of poison it is, and so on. First handle the immediate 
>problem, and later investigate. Similarly, when we encounter human 
>suffering, it is important to respond with compassion rather than to 
>question the politics of those we help."
>
>habitat for humanity struck me as a possible way to get involved down the 
>road, if there's nothing more that can immediately be done.
>
>also, it got me wondering about natural disasters of a similar magnitude 
>that stand a chance of happening in our area.  i've been hearing about the 
>yellowstone "super volcano"... and also recently read about the new madrid 
>fault line that runs through the midwest.  evidently there's a 90% chance 
>of a major quake in the region by 2040.
>
>tornadoes and floods happen all the time here... i can't see one of those 
>affecting as large an area.  still, something to consider.
>
>chad
>
>On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Annette Kubernus wrote:
>
>>This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it might 
>>sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to overthrow 
>>the government with all this happening. This is beyond repulsion what they 
>>are NOT doing for these people.
>>
>>And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where the 
>>doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs preventing 
>>people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read clearly? Has my 
>>brain fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is Cunt...I mean Bush, 
>>sending people with guns to a place that needs people armed with blankies 
>>and yum yums?
>>
>>On a side note: I really should consider posting my dreams everday...I 
>>could go into business...I had a dream two weeks before the hurricane 
>>about bein' in the Bayou, walkin my ass off, and reaching the shore and 
>>standing there, looking into the Gulf of Mexico and watching all my shit 
>>get carried off like the waves of water were alive or somethin. I refered 
>>to it as my Gulf of Mexico Dream. I told 8 people. I hate posting that. 
>>It's sick. It makes me fuckin sick. Anyone else having weird moments of 
>>clarity, strange phenomena, clairvoancy? Are we evolving yet? Why can't we 
>>hurry up already; I'm getting antsy and the governments get more evil. 
>>Aaahhh, where's the carebears when ya need 'em? They could fix it all up 
>>with a CareBearStare>>>>>>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~ = )
>>
>>
>>Ryan Summers <plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA12843661125997597A0?source=PA%20Feed&ct=5
>>
>>"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying
>>'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and 
>>made
>>signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said
>>'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."
>>
>>
>>http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
>>http://www.rense.com/general67/cit.htm
>>
>>Ok, so it appears that most authorities, despite what is publically stated
>>in press briefings are just letting people die. Not only that, but they 
>>are
>>turning away groups of citizens who are equiped for search and rescue. 
>>Wow,
>>I'm just speachless at this point.
>>
>>/ryan
>>
>>
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Ditto. But while I'm just as angry at the next guy for what Bush and his administration have done with this country, I'm not so happy with the administration prior to him. Take for example the veto power the U.S. and UK had (and still have) at the U.N. and how it was used to impose sanctions against Iraq which resulted in the deaths of 500,000 Iraqis -- mostly women and children. Or how this country wrecked Jamaica's agricultural/dairy industry via the WTO (World Trade Organization) and IMF (International Monetary Fund); organizations that really don't take the world into account as much as shape it in a way that serves U.S. (wealthy members of our society, really) interests.
 
More than anything, I would redirect the energy of our anger and frustration at exposing how corrupt our country has become, look for the root causes of it (in our daily lives, as well as externally), work to spread the truth, and make a change. Our anger is more than warranted, but if we don't act as purveyors of progressive change, and simply give in to the anger, we will ultimately lose ourselves...and that is not the "revolution" I envision... 
 
Much love,
 
- Luis 


Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is precisely the nature of the government as a whole. I know it might sound kind of SICK, BUT at least people will be more inclined to overthrow the government with all this happening. This is beyond repulsion what they are NOT doing for these people.

And did I read that CNN article (from the first post) correctly, where the doctor stated that there were SNIPERS?? on the tops of roofs preventing people from evacuating?? Am I retarded? Do I not read clearly? Has my brain fully melted or is this what's happening? Why is Cunt...I mean Bush, sending people with guns to a place that needs people armed with blankies and yum yums?

On a side note: I really should consider posting my dreams everday...I could go into business...I had a dream two weeks before the hurricane about bein' in the Bayou, walkin my ass off, and reaching the shore and standing there, looking into the Gulf of Mexico and watching all my shit get carried off like the waves of water were alive or somethin. I refered to it as my Gulf of Mexico Dream. I told 8 people. I hate posting that. It's sick. It makes me fuckin sick. Anyone else having weird moments of clarity, strange phenomena, clairvoancy? Are we evolving yet? Why can't we hurry up already; I'm getting antsy and the governments get more evil. Aaahhh, where's the carebears when ya need 'em? They could fix it all up with a CareBearStare>>>>>>>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~ = )


Ryan Summers 
wrote:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA12843661125997597A0?source=PA%20Feed&ct=5

"At one point, there were a load of girls on the roof of the hotel saying 
'Can you help us?' and the policemen said 'Show us what you've got' and made 
signs for them to lift their T-shirts. When the girls refused, they said 
'Fine' and motored off down the road in their boat."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm
http://www.rense.com/general67/cit.htm

Ok, so it appears that most authorities, despite what is publically stated 
in press briefings are just letting people die. Not only that, but they are 
turning away groups of citizens who are equiped for search and rescue. Wow, 
I'm just speachless at this point.

/ryan



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Go team mailing list!

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FREE CDS WILL BE GIVEN AWAY TO THE FIRST 100 PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOOR!!
dj Solaris will be bringing up his new not yet released mix cd and will be 
giving it away to the first 100 people, so get there early so you don't miss out.

Also don't forget $1 of everyone's $5 admission will be donated to the Red 
Cross for hurricane Katrina Disaster Relief.

Directions...

>From west or south of des moines:
Take 80 east or 35 north towards des moines
When you get into the west des moines area take 235 into the city
Follow that all the way into the city
Take the 7th street exit
Turn right onto 7th and follow to locust (about 1-2 miles)
Turn left onto locust to 5th (2 blocks)
Turn right onto 5th street to a left onto court ave (2 blocks)
Take court 1 block and turn left onto 4th...
the vaudeville mews is half way up the block on the left (212 4th)

>From north or east of des moines:
Take 80 west or 35 south towards des moines
When you get to the east side of des moines take 235 into the city
Take the first exit you can after crossing the river (depends on construction)
Turn left into the city and follow down to grand ave
turn right on grand and follow to 5th street
Turn Left onto 5th to a left onto court ave (3 blocks)
Take court 1 block and turn left onto 4th...
the vaudeville mews is half way up the block on the left (212 4th)


909
Friday Sept 9
Des Moines, IA

In response to the tragedy caused by Hurricane Katrina, $1 of everyone's 
admission to this event will be donated to a disaster relief fund.

In honor of the Roland TR-909 and the Impact it has made on our music, The 
Next Wave presents a Des Moines Vs. Kansas City Techno Showdown, featuring some 
of the best Techno djs both cities have to offer.

Representing KC:
SOLARIS - Techno Justice League/ Djsolaris.com
SYNNISTER - Syde-Sho.com

Representing Des Moines:
NNOTHING - Techno Justice League/ SublunaryAM.com
TNT - Twilight World

 9 pm-2am
$5 at the door @the Vaudeville Mews 212 4th Street Downtown Des Moines
24 hour info line:  515.830.1893

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Subject: [mw] hmm.. interesting...


Human Brain may still be evolving...
By Nicholas Wade
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/science/09brain.html



If you don't want to register for NYtimes, here's the article:

Two genes involved in determining the size of the human brain have undergone 
substantial evolution in the last 60,000 years, researchers say, leading to 
the surprising suggestion that the brain is still undergoing rapid 
evolution.

The discovery adds weight to the view that human evolution is still a work 
in progress, since previous instances of recent genetic change have come to 
light in genes that defend against disease and confer the ability to digest 
milk in adulthood.

It had been widely assumed until recently that human evolution more or less 
stopped 50,000 years ago.

The new finding, reported in today's issue of Science by Bruce T. Lahn of 
the University of Chicago, and colleagues, could raise controversy because 
of the genes' role in determining brain size. New versions of the genes, or 
alleles as geneticists call them, appear to have spread because they 
enhanced brain function in some way, the report suggests, and they are more 
common in some populations than others.

But several experts strongly criticized this aspect of the finding, saying 
it was far from clear that the new alleles conferred any cognitive advantage 
or had spread for that reason. Many genes have more than one role in the 
body, and the new alleles could have been favored for some other reason, 
these experts said, such as if they increased resistance to disease.

Even if the new alleles should be shown to improve brain function, that 
would not necessarily mean that the populations where they are common have 
any brain-related advantage over those where they are rare. Different 
populations often take advantage of different alleles, which occur at 
random, to respond to the same evolutionary pressure, as has happened in the 
emergence of genetic defenses against malaria, which are somewhat different 
in Mediterranean and African populations.

If the same is true of brain evolution, each population might have a 
different set of alleles for enhancing function, many of which remain to be 
discovered.

The Chicago researchers began their study with two genes, known as 
microcephalin and ASPM, that came to light because they are disabled in a 
disease called microcephaly. People with the condition are born with a brain 
much smaller than usual, often with a substantial shrinkage of the cerebral 
cortex, that seems to be a throwback to when the human brain was a fraction 
of its present size.

Last year, Dr. Lahn, one of a select group of researchers supported by the 
Howard Hughes Medical Institute, showed that a group of 20 brain-associated 
genes, including microcephalin and ASPM, had evolved faster in the great ape 
lineage than in mice and rats. He concluded that these genes might have had 
important roles in human evolution. As part of this study, he noticed that 
microcephalin and ASPM had an unusual pattern of alleles. With each gene, 
one allele was much more common than all the others. He and his colleagues 
have now studied the worldwide distribution of the alleles by decoding the 
DNA of the two genes in many different populations.

They report that with microcephalin, a new allele arose about 37,000 years 
ago, although it could have appeared as early as 60,000 or as late as 14,000 
years ago. About 70 percent of people in most European and East Asian 
populations carry this allele of the gene, but it is much rarer in most 
sub-Saharan Africans.

With the other gene, ASPM, a new allele emerged 14,100 to 500 years ago, the 
researchers favoring a midway date of 5,800 years. The allele has attained a 
frequency of about 50 percent in populations of the Middle East and Europe, 
is less common in East Asia, and is found at low frequency in some 
sub-Saharan Africa peoples.

The Chicago team suggests that the new microcephalin allele may have arisen 
in Eurasia or as the first modern humans emigrated from Africa some 50,000 
years ago. They note that the ASPM allele emerged about the same time as the 
spread of agriculture in the Middle East 10,000 years ago and the emergence 
of the civilizations of the Middle East some 5,000 years ago, but say that 
any connection is not yet clear.

Dr. Lahn said there might be a fair number of genes that affect the size of 
the brain, each making a small difference yet one that can be acted on by 
natural selection. "It's likely that different populations would have a 
different makeup of these genes, so it may all come out in the wash," he 
said. In other words, East Asians and Africans probably have other 
brain-enhancing alleles, not yet discovered, that have spread to high 
frequency in their populations.

He said he expected that more such allele differences between populations 
would come to light, as have differences in patterns of genetic disease. "I 
do think this kind of study is a harbinger for what might become a rather 
controversial issue in human population research," Dr. Lahn said. But he 
said his data and other such findings "do not necessarily lead to prejudice 
for or against any particular population."

A greater degree of concern was expressed by Francis S. Collins, director of 
the National Human Genome Research Institute. Dr. Collins said that even if 
the alleles were indeed under selection, it was still far from clear why 
they had risen to high frequency, and that "one should resist strongly the 
conclusion that it has to do with brain size, because the selection could be 
operating on any other not yet defined feature." He said he was worried 
about the way these papers will be interpreted.

Sarah Tishkoff, a geneticist at the University of Maryland and a co-author 
of both studies, said the statistical signature of selection on the two 
genes was "one of the strongest that I've seen." But she, like Dr. Collins, 
said that "we don't know what these alleles are doing" and that specific 
tests were required to show that they in fact influenced brain development 
or were selected for that reason.

Dr. Lahn acknowledges this point, writing in his article that "it remains 
formally possible that an unrecognized function of microcephalin outside of 
the brain is actually the substrate of selection."

Another geneticist, David Goldstein of Duke University, said that the new 
study was "very well done," but that "it is a real stretch to argue for 
example that microcephalin is under selection and that that selection must 
be related to brain size or cognitive function." The gene could have risen 
to prominence through a random process known as genetic drift, Dr. Goldstein 
said.

Richard Klein, an archaeologist who has proposed that modern human behavior 
first appeared in Africa because of some genetic change that promoted 
innovativeness, said the time of emergence of the microcephalin allele 
"sounds like it could support my idea." If the allele did support enhanced 
cognitive function, "it's hard to understand why it didn't get fixed at 100 
percent nearly everywhere," he said.

Dr. Klein suggested the allele might have spread for a different reason, 
that as people colonizing East Asia and Europe pushed north, they adapted to 
colder climates.

Commenting on critics' suggestions that the alleles could have spread for 
reasons other than the effects on the brain, Dr. Lahn said he thought such 
objections were in part scientifically based and in part because of a 
reluctance to acknowledge that selection could affect a trait as 
controversial as brain function.

The microcephalin and ASPM genes are known to be involved in determining 
brain size and so far have no other known function, he said. They are known 
to have been under strong selective pressure as brain size increased from 
monkeys to humans, and the chances seem "pretty good" the new alleles are 
continuing that, he said.

Dr. Lahn said he had tested Dr. Goldstein's idea of alleles' spreading 
through drift and found it unlikely.



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that is interesting, I wonder if pippi saw that...


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Subject: [mw] Failure

Goto

www.google.com

type in failure and hit the Im feeling lucky button..

Enjoy..

  (0_o)



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Subject: Re: [mw] Failure

Googlebombing = 4 years ago.

Rave scene = 7 years ago.

Liberalism = 40 years ago.


See a pattern here?








On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:54:01 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Goto
>
> www.google.com
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> type in failure and hit the Im feeling lucky button..
>
> Enjoy..
>
>   (0_o)
>
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"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is  
sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this  
scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
Santorum

"It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bush

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Subject: Re: [mw] Failure

Conservatism =3D 4,000 years ago.

You ever being relevant =3D never.

have a day.

On 9/12/05, DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Googlebombing =3D 4 years ago.
>=20
> Rave scene =3D 7 years ago.
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>=20
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> See a pattern here?
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> > Goto
> >
> > www.google.com
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I remember seeing that a couple years ago and thought it was a cool trick.  
Now I'm not so sure it's a google bomb anymore...

/ryan

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Just saw it now. Yah, (as I sit back in my chair and prop my precious feet up), we're all just surfin the wave of Ultimate Thought in order to exist. We're gettin there. And the more you believe we're advancing....the more we do. Just watch and see how many "weird" people you'll begin to meet all at once. Telepathy is our path to peace. We will all attain a common ground of understanding. I've been there
 We have a beautiful "heaven" awaiting us.


C F <Storm_princess124@webtv.net> wrote:
that is interesting, I wonder if pippi saw that...


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      ~~~~~~Our disagreements are variations of the same Agreement.~~~~~~~
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(Took a four-hour-long conversation about the nature of god(?) or the "start" of things involving props, diagrams, *a tiny scrap of white paper, and a *blanket to get to that one simple conclusion. I share it with all of you because it could save you hours of frustration....although that was kinda half the fun. Feel free to use it in any conversation that becomes a monster of inequities.)
 
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and, that, right there....



thats rave.





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>10 YEARS I LOVE TECHNO :: FULL LINE UP & START PRESALES
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>FULL LINE UP
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>FEATURING CHRIS LIEBING & SPEEDY J (LIVE) | ADAM BEYER | T. RAUMSCHMIERE 
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>THE ROOMS
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>A birthday party with on the guest list, amongst others
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Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
Sep 12-18                  ADVENTURE IN CHI-TOWN 3                  Chicago
Sep 16-18                     FAMILY REUNION 7                 Hinckley, IL
Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chicago
Fri Oct 21                    UR - MOTECH NIGHT                 Minneapolis
Fri Sep 23                        INJECTION                      Louisville
Sep 23-25                      LOVE PARADE SF                      San Fran
Sat Sep 24                       WONDERLAND                         Chicago
Sat Oct 01                       ACID HOUSE                         Detroit
Sat Oct 01                      SOCIAL SYSTEM                       Detroit
Sat Oct 08                       KARMACLYSM                      Urbana, IL
Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chicago

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Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21
BassByThePound presents
THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
STAKKA : CARGO : NEW YORK
Lava 859 N. Damen
21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER

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Sep 12-18                  ADVENTURE IN CHI-TOWN 3                  Chicago

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Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chicago

GATE 9 PRODUCTIONS, IRRATIONAL MUZIKWERX, DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS CARTEL 
presents:

MOTION
9.17.2005 - Logan Square Auditorium
CHICAGO, ILLI-fucking-NOIS

The acts.......and their schedule.......
_________________________ _________________________ __________________
ROOM.1

MATHEMATIX (aka MC MTHMTX) and DREA
Etc. TECHNOlogies/Lumia/Proper Productions
Tampa, FL
Etctechno.com

1AM . 3AM

Don't miss this exclusive chance to witness the innovative performance 
by Equation as The "Equation 2005 Tour" makes a stop here in Chicago. 
The duo.s performance will feature MC MTHMTX (Theatrical performer and 
vocalist), as he will be incorporating his creative stage show and wild 
style of visually stimulating costumes and digitally enhanced vocals 
with real time synth filtered effects. All while the lovely Drea pumps 
out a high energy mix of multi-genre Progressive Electronic Dance 
Music.. Truly talented with her programming skills, and a wicked ear for 
music that reflects directly upon her track selection. Drea will take 
you on an aural journey through the music aspect of the show. This 
talented Diva sets the tempo and never lets up as the set progresses to 
extreme levels. She and Math will show you how they put a whole new 
meaning to a DJ/MC set! The Equation experience will create a dance 
filled frenzy that is sure to rock the joint and set your body in 
MOTION. With Drea in the mix and the performance by MC MTHMTX you.ll be 
sure to be blown away with an overwhelming display of vocal sound 
effects, video projections, and a cast of local talented dancers who 
will participate in the stage show., Equation will create a powerful 
atmosphere that will leave you wanting more!! The 2005 tour performance 
promises to give a taste of what to expect from "EQUATION" as they fine 
tune the upcoming LIVE PA act!!! Immediately following the Equation show 
catch the hard driving DJ set of DJ MathematiX as he will be droppin. 
the dark styles of Drum .n. Bass and Progressive NuSkool Breaks. Armed 
with an arsenal of exclusive dubs and some of his original tracks.

*****FREE GIVEAWAYS!!!!!*****during the Equation performance from 
Equation and Tour sponsors; System Recordings, Rinse Mag and more!!

ADAM X
Sonic Groove
NYC
Techno
djadamx.com

12AM . 1AM

In his DJ performances and track production, Adam X's sound is best 
described as hard, EBM and industrial inspired dance-floor techno & 
electro. Adam X penetrates, educates and infuses his audience with a 
real energy, often drawing from dark & sexual themes, through the 
mastery of the electronic music medium he has gained from a prolific 
career. Adam got started in NYC in the early '90s -an era of a 
burgeoning grass-roots music and club culture, which he himself had 
contributed to. In his career, Adam X has performed alongside artists 
such as Aphex Twin, Surgeon & Joey Beltram, and lately, the likes of 
Terence Fixmer/Douglas Mccarthy and Andrew Weatherall. He's performed at 
thousands of events, raves and club nights globally including Mayday, 
Love Parade, DEMF, and Fabric. Adam's list of solo commercial releases 
and collaborative projects on CD and vinyl is equally impressive. A few 
of the many labels Adam has released music under are Wax Trax-TVT 
(Mastermix Series Vol. 2), Instinct Records (Adam X 'On the 1 and 2'), 
Oliver Chesler's Things To Come Label (Sensory Deprivation) and many 
projects on his own aforementioned label, Sonic Groove. Adam currently 
has a chameleonic approach to his artistry, playing at Industrial events 
like Maschinenfest in Germany, to playing famous techno clubs the next 
night like Rex Club in Paris. His own productions also combine the two 
genres, containing elements of both in a single track.


SHUGGA b2b EVA(aka Evil Bunnie)
BOTZ/Native-Instruments/Temple of Boom/H2O/GrapeyBaby
Los Angeles, CA

11PM . 12AM

Raized on the East, reprezentin' the West, These Bitchez on Da Switchez 
are a combination like no other! No need for Drugz here when Shuggaz 
nastee NuSkool & Eva's evil electro tear through the speakerz and and 
shred yo brain like nothing you've ever experienced! Shuggaz been 
tearing it up worldwide for 8 years with Caffeine, Funk Dawg, Satellite 
NY, now Native, and Temple of Boom and Eva's ripping up the underground 
scene in LA like no other! Get ready to be rocked by the two of the 
sickest Breakz djs you will ever know! YOU WERE WARNED!

Psycho The Irrational Kidd
Irrational Mob Mentality/Gold Coast Multimedia/Funkilinium
Flint, MI

10PM . 11PM

Expect the unexpected. One of the most wildly unpredictable DJs that you 
will ever lay your eyes and ears upon. Psyc, a 24-year veteran of the 
turntables (and former Midwest scratch champ), recently gave up staying 
in one area because he believes that "if it's on vinyl, it's fair game". 
He also plays with FUNKILINIUM, a 6-piece powerhouse funk band that has 
been getting a lot of attention from the majors lately. Be there to 
witness why Psycho has been called "the missing link between Jeff Mills 
and the Tazmanian Devil".

Naughtya
Weekend Warriors
Grand Rapids, MI

9PM . 10PM

Nicknamed "The Booty Queen," Naughtya mixes the nastiest tracks, ranging 
from Ghetto House, Ghetto Tech, Booty, to Old School Miami Bass...All 
served up naughty, BUTT nice.



ROOM.2

Nico Blue
616 - JUNGLE Dark Heart Republic
Jenison, MI

2AM . 3AM

Nico has been spinning drum-and-bass for around 3 years in Grand Rapids, 
MI. From dancy to dark, soft to hard, he is known for his impressive 
track selection and guaranteed to have you moving all night long. Bring 
your body and he'll bring the bass.

John Johr
Cave DJs/Input<>Output | Detroit, MI | Techno

1AM . 2AM

This cat comes with the heart of a lion, the track selection of a 
supreme master and the mixing techniques that only Detroit can bring. 
John has been putting together one of the more premier nights for 
electronic music in Detroit for some time now (input<>output), and is 
now beginning to spread his wings outside of the D. Prepare to have your 
head bashed in.

Ryan H. and CL8NC
Division Underground
Bangin House/Tag Team Collaboration
Minnesota

12AM . 1AM

Straight from the Minneapolis massive, these tactical dechnicions 
provide a synergy between the electronic weaponry and the dance floor 
you don't want to miss.Together, these 2 D's will bring an arsenal of 
wax fresh of the press, molded with the Underground's 12" House 
classics.

Spektrum
(hard/dark/aggressive drum & bass, Kalamazoo, MI)

11PM . 12AM

This turntable assassin was born with a wide variety of skill and 
precision. His name is the epitome of his raw style which encompasses 
the full spectrum of drum & bass music, but you really should leave your 
silver bullets at home, cause this guy is definitely known for bringing 
it dark enough for the vampires...


Dj Roll
Race of Reaction/True Family Unit /C9 Records
- DnB, Hip Hop, Trip Hop
Champaign, IL

10PM . 11PM

Roll has been producing for 6 years, blending a steady mix of hip hop 
jungle and scratching About a year ago roll finally decided to take up 
the 1200's, deeming jungle as his weapon of choice. Having played along 
side the likes of Danny the Wild Child, True Family Unit, as well as 
fellow Race of Reaction peers, the last year has been a bombshell of 
productivity. Boasting a wide variety of tracks and one (of many) vinyl 
releases his sound will leave you, rollin, rollin.

Max Jerome
Irrational Mob Mentality | UKG/2step
Flint, MI

9PM . 10PM

Looks can be decieving. Max Jerome doesn't look the part of the funky 
get-down artist that rocks all points of UK Garage, but let him loose on 
the decks......and watch the bassbins react. He's been studying the 
Garage scene since 1997, and is a walking encyclopedia of all things 
UKG. Come witness the sound of the Bwoi them call Max J.....and see why 
he's top choice.....

_________________________ _________________________ ________________

A limited amount of presales will be available @

Wax Addict
1014 N. Ashland
Chicago, IL
773.772.9930

As well as, through Gate9Productions...tickets@gate9productions.com for 
more info.

beginning Apr.25.2005

Presales are $15

It will $20 ATD all night.


Web Support:

midwestravers.com
gate9productions.com
michiganravers.com
scenenetworks.com
detroitluv.com
kindkidz.us
mnvibe.com

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Fri Oct 21                    UR - MOTECH NIGHT                 Minneapolis

UR / Motech Night with Suburban Knight and DJ 3000
 
Date: October 21st 2005
Minneapolis, MN
 
Featured DJ's
James Pennington aka Suburban Knight
DJ 3000
Opening Dj: Ryan Tollefson
 
Location:
Plush Fridays
Quest Ascot Room
110 N 5th Street
Mpls, MN
 
Promoters: Aural Fixation, Sound In Motion, Hush

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Fri Sep 23                        INJECTION                      Louisville

PT Enterprises And N-Phrase Present:
 
18+ To Enter 21+ To Drink
Cover: $12.00
9.23.05
10:00pm-5:00am
 
Club Oasis
1506 Lakeshore ct.
Louisville, ky

 
Kenneth Thomas: CD RELEASE PARTY!!!!!
(Detroit) Bleu Detroit/Tru Cleveland/Rampant Toronto/ETN.fm
Electronic Elements/Alter Ego/ESR
 

Kenneth Thomas has quickly positioned himself as one of the top DJs in 
not only Detroit but now the US. Acquiring the headlining resident 
position on Saturday nights at Motor Detroit launched Kt into the 
national spotlight. Headlining Toronto's System Soundbar and The 
Guvernment along with regular events in Cleveland, New York, Denver, 
Chicago and throughout the Midwest, Kt has moved away from local 
residencies and has begun to establish him as a national headliner.
Kenneth.s eclectic mix of House, Progressive and Trance will guarantee 
that you.ll never know what direction his night will lead. But one thing 
people love most about Kt.s sets is that he is always bringing something 
fresh to the room and knows exactly how to piece the vibe together.
Kenneth is also beginning to build his name in the international realms 
of original production spearheaded by his first release Elevation & 
Kenneth Thomas- Preen signed to Armin van Buuren.s Armada label. KT.s 
solo works, The Orange Room and other remixes have recently found there 
way into the boxes of Steve Lawler, Nick Warren, Sander Kleinenberg and 
Paul Oakenfold.
"This is the most amazing sound I have ever encountered, I just want to 
share it with as many people as possible"-KT
 
CD release info:
 
September 20th
Obsessions the CD hits stores Nationwide!
 
Kt's first fully licensed mix CD will hit stores across the country on
Tuesday Sept 20th. Atomic Quill Media will be putting out this 78 minute
mix of proggressive music. Will include tunes from Probspot, Kris
O'neal, Santiago Nino, as well as new exclusive tunes from Elevation and
KT himself
 
 
 
Dj ODI:
(New York)  Digital Konfusion, Jungle Sky, BML, Cymbalism Recordings, 
NYCJungle.com, Eroticbpm.com
 

Dj Odi is one of New York City's finest jungle DJs. His performances 
date back as far as 1989, when the 14 year old Harlem native began DJing 
for various events in his neighborhood.  Odi's talent and ability to 
please a crowd quickly gained him notoriety. He began touring nationally 
in 1995; his immaculate sets packed dance floors everywhere with a party 
vibe that became synonymous with the DJ Odi name. His signature style 
was characterized by his unique blend of scratching and sampling, both 
of which were more prominent elements of hip hop music. His creative 
fusion of hip hop and early drum n bass rapidly gained popularity among 
DJs and producers, and it was through this fusion that Odi has been 
credited for the development of "hipstep" (a.k.a. "jump up") jungle. His 
accomplishments as an innovator of urban music were further recognized 
in 1998, when Odi became the first jungle DJ to ever be accepted into 
the prestigious ZULU Nation, forever demolishing the barrier between hip 
hop and drum n bass.
 
 
Produkdiv Tantrumz:
(Louisville)  PT Enterprises
 

This Louisville dynamic duo is stopping at nothing to become one of the 
world's most sought after tag-team specialists.  By the first touch of a 
record in July of 2003, they have conquered every electronic based venue 
in the 'Ville along with a few more mainstream clubs such as @mosphere, 
Phoenix Hill, & O'Malley's Corner.  Throwing their first major event 
last July, they've quickly rounded a fan base & have produced three more 
events since.  Not to mention throwing down in midwest cities such as 
Indianapolis, Columbus, Cincinatti & Nashville.  They've enjoyed playing 
with known DJ's such as Annalyze, Punisher, Krayola Kid, Tom Sawyer, 
Benman, DJ Booth, Lady Foursquare, Filthy Rich, DJ Mea, Eric Berretta & 
Duran.  Prepare yourself to see PT diversify & spin some SiCk 
Drum-n-Bass FO YO FACE!!!
 

Kenneth Keith (Puzzle):
(Louisville)  N-Phrase
 
 
Known by most people as .Puzzle., Kenneth picked up his first record 
knowing he was going to embark on a mission of passion and dedication.  
Only the best of the best tracks of trance and breaks are found in his 
record case. His love for the unique sound drives his set from beginning 
to end, providing a high energy environment. Kenneth is also known for 
military service, and while away in Oklahoma he landed his first of 
three appearances in Dallas, TX. Shortly thereafter he obtained a weekly 
residency in a country bar near the base he was stationed at.  This up 
and comer will definitely be pushing forward with the elements that is 
the most moving to him-----Friendship, Dedication, and Love.
 

Headknockah:
(Louisville)  DnB TV, gravitycrew
 

This Drum-n-Bass MaDmAn is ready to pound your neck loose with some of 
the SiCkEsT tracks money can buy.  Dedicating his life to DJing the 
DaRkNeSs, he has become known throughout the midwest & across the world.  
On the roster of Drum-n-Bass TV, he pleases hard-core crowds everywhere.  
Vastly known locally & making his way across the nation, this talented 
DnB DJ is taking NO PRISONERS!!!  Get a neck brace!  You WILL have 
WhIpLaSh!
 
 
 
Crescendo:
(Louisville)  Hushabye House
 

A family man at best, this on-point DnB BaDaSs is prepared to SLAM you 
against the wall!  Spinning some of the dirty & deepest tracks your ears 
can handle, he's been known to shred a crowd & leave them laying on the 
dance floor wondering what happened!  Edging across the country he's 
done many tag-team sessions with the one and only Headknockah, composing 
DnB symphonies of MaDnEsS!!!  Prepare yourself for the fast-paced 
positive vibes dispersed by Crescendo!
 
 
 
Primal Tek:
(Louisville)  PT Enterprises
 

Newly acquired to PT Enterprises, this Progressive duo is ready to make 
you dig deep into your roots.  Taking it back to the beginning of time, 
all that is lacking for these two is a camp fire with hundreds of people 
dancing around it.  If the venue would allow it, there would be one.  
Making their way through the Louisville scene and gaining fan base, 
they've created a deep tribal vibe on a regular basis at Main Street 
Lounge.  This collaboration has the power to turn bodies into LiQuId!  
Get ready to be in touch with your inner soul.
 
 
 
Jon Owens:
(Louisville)  PT Enterprises, DnB TV, Louipimps.com, gravitycrew
 

This talented DJ has been in the scene for over seven years.  He's 
pounded sets out next to some of the most prominent powerhouses in 
electronic music today, such as Deiselboy, Nigel Richards, Felix the 
Housecat, DJ Assault, UFO, & DJ Hive.  Creating a solid fan-base over 
the years, this DJ has never failed to impress.  HEAD FOR COVER!!!  A 
DnB MaSsAcRe is on the way!
 

Wunderkind:
(Louisville)  N-Phrase
 

For those who don't know this man, a BoUnCiN atmosphere is what he 
creates!  He's one talented up & comer and perfection is his goal.  
Spinning at his first major event ever, he plans to BLAST the speakers 
righteously.  Show some love for the up & coming!
 
 
 
Neil Jaye:
(Columbus) Level Line/IOC Productions/ Columbus
 

This Ohio based DJ is prepared to rock the night right with some of the 
BEST Trance that's ever been thrown down in Louisville.  Prepare 
yourself for some AwEsOmE Ohio showmanship!
 

Sponsered By ChebaHut: Special Surprise: Night Of The Party!
 
Live! Audio/Video Internet Feed: Come dressed to impress.
(Club Oasis will be broadcasting live to the internet, so come show 
everyone watching from around the US and possibly the world how we do it 
in the Ville!)
 
www.DjKennethThomas.com
www.AltereGoRecords.com
www.ETN.fm
www.AtomicQuill.com
www.DJKENNETHKEITH.COM
www.DrumandBasstv.com

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Sep 23-25                      LOVE PARADE SF                      San Fran

(sf is mw right?)

Join us for 3 full days and nights of music, dancing and love in 
beautiful San Francisco. SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Loveparade San Francisco 
2005 FLOATS! Featuring Paul Van Dyk, Crystal Method, Ferry Corsten, Carl 
Cox, Bad Boy Bill, Blank & Jones, DJ Dan, Kyau vs. Albert, DJ Icey, St. 
John, Markus Schulz, Mark Farina, Jerry Bonham, Miguel Migs, Above & 
Beyond, Mike Koglin, Dyloot & Tom SIlk, Gianni & Taj, 8ball, Aaron, Jae, 
Baby Anne, BAM, Brad Robinson, Carbon Community, Chris Lobsinger, Derek 
Hena, Deron, DJ Fluid, DJ Hyper, DJ Lowtek, DJ Mes, DJ Seven, DJ Sol, DJ 
Tracy Bleeke, Edgar V, Eric_Hz, Fred Everything, Future Funk Squad, Greg 
J, Greg Louis, HI-8, Hoj, Influence, IZ, J Boogie, J-Break, James 
Laurer, Jason Who, Jay Prasad, Jay Vigor, John Curley, Jondi & Spesh, JT 
Donaldson, Justin Long, Kai and Raji, Kapt'n Kirk, Krystal Jones, KT, 
Late Night Sneaky, Lee Burridge, Lee Coombs, Leedia, Liam Shy, Mancub, 
Marc O, Max Graham, Mazi, Melyss, Mike Frugaletti, Mix Master 
Amoeaba, M.O.D, Ripple, rrrus, Ryel K, Saeed Younan, Samer, Scott 
Carrelli, Sinikus, Smoove, Soulclap, Sweet P, Syd Gris, Tasho, Tanuki, 
The Geometrist, The Land Shark, Timothy Heit.. More DJ's to be 
announced. 

Loveweekend festivities begin Friday, September 23rd and run through 
Sunday, September 25th, with the main event - the Loveparade - on 
Saturday, September 24th. We are gearing up for the 2005 Loveparade in 
San Francisco on Saturday September 24th. This years parade will start 
at Market & 2nd Street and head west on Market Street to the festival 
location at Civic Center. The parade is schedule to start at 1pm and 
parade to the festival location where the floats will park and all the 
participants can enjoy the multiple genres of music that will be played. 
We are asking for a $5 donation upon entering the festival location, 
this will go to supporting our community partners and other national 
non-profit organizations. 
http://www.loveparadesf.org 

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Sat Sep 24                       WONDERLAND                         Chicago

Source & Digital Umbrella present....
 
~~*WONDERLAND*~~
 
September 24th, the original returns...
 
Chicagoland Area
No price on the flyer, but it does say "secure space but without the 
full scale price"
 
LINE-UP:
 
Todd Sines, NYC
Realtime, Houston
Acid Circus, Los Angeles
DJ Barbeau, Los Angeles
Heavy Grinder, Los Angeles
 
Chicago's Heavy Hitters:
 
Delta 9
Submerge101
Dan Efx
Damien
Phantom 45
High Caliber
Linus
Monologic - LIVE PA
 
Chicago's Originals:
 
DJ Jes
Phil Free Art
Notorious Nino
Three Jay
Mind Bender
Adonis
Trancid
 
Chicago Phuture:
 
Autoaxon - LIVE PA
Solange
Rampage
Source 1
Idiom
Kiddo
 
 
Main Info:
 
773-263-4485
www.myspace.com/wonderlandchicago
www.digitalumbrella.net
digitalumbrella@gmail.com

Tix are $20 presale (on sale Aug. 29th @Another Level, Wax Addict, & 
Untitled)
$22 at the door, till 11pm
$25 after 11pm

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Sat Oct 01                       ACID HOUSE                         Detroit

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Sat Oct 01                      SOCIAL SYSTEM                       Detroit

SOCIAL SYSTEM (aka Pheek vs. Offthesky) LIVE!

Live PA in Detroit....
Pheek vs Offthesky aka "Social System" LIVE PA
plus Bruno Pronsato + local talent

October 1st, 2005

at the 555 Gallery.

Pheek - www.pheek.com www.archipel.cc

Offthesky - www.offthesky.com

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Sat Oct 08                       KARMACLYSM                      Urbana, IL

event site: http://www.chilluminati.org/karmaclysm

The Chilluminati present
     Karmaclysm
     October 8, 2005
     @ the beautiful Kalyx Center, near Urbana (central) Illinois

Playing old school Goa and psychedelic downtempo
Indoor and outdoor stages
psychedelic sound, visuals, art and fire, all night long


+++ LINEUP, Artists

Shai vs. Christer
Divine Balance Records, (Chicago) / Shiva Space Technology, Mechanik 
Records (Norway)

Dreamsequence
PTLF / Organic Grooves (Urbana, IL)

Phidelity (LIVE)
Oracle Gatherings (San Francisco/Vancouver)

S.O.T.
TOUCH Samadhi (Chicago)

Kaiser SOZE
PTLF / 37H3R / TOUCH Samadhi (Milwaukee)

Derby
TOUCH Samadhi (Chicago)

Underfoot
Audiognomes (Madison)

DJ Storm
PTLF (Milwaukee, WI)

DJ Robyo
Audiognomes (Rockford, IL)

Toki
Audiognomes (Madison)


mindbending decor by Devorah of Vision Collective
interactive projected visuals by Psymbolic
Sound by Nuclear Subs


+++ Time & Location

When: Music begins at 9PM. Gate is open at 7PM. Give yourself time for 
parking and registration.
Music plays until 10AM Sunday, October 9th, RAIN or SHINE

Where: Kalyx Center
442 E. 1300 North Road (some maps refer to as: 442 Country Road 1300N )
Monticello, IL 61856-9549
GPS coordinates: Longitude -88.66190 Latitude 39.98305

Kalyx is an environmental education organization with a large barn and 
over sixty acres of beautiful wooded land, adjoining Robert Allerton 
Park near Monticello, Illinois. It is only thirty miles and a half-hour 
drive from Champaign-Urbana.

The chill stage will be located in the barn, and the psy stage will be 
outdoors.

Parking is very, very limited. Attendees are urged to carpool, bicycle 
in from Monticello, take a taxi in, or otherwise find ways to get to 
Kalyx that do not involve parking at the site. Once we run out of 
parking, we will have to turn more automobiles away. This is why we 
provide and strongly recommend pre-registration at this event.

The Kalyx Center is only six miles from Monticello, which has plentiful 
free parking.

Maps

View from space http://tinyurl.com/8bozl
Google http://tinyurl.com/8z46e
MapQuest http://tinyurl.com/c8a8c
Mapblast http://tinyurl.com/b9s4u

DRIVING TO KALYX: The center is about 45 minutes' drive SW of C-U. Take 
I-72 (Church St.) west about 15 miles to the Illinois 105 exit. (marked 
Market St.) Follow 105 into Monticello, past the stop light, to the stop 
sign (Marion St.) and turn right. At the next stop sign (Allerton Road), 
turn left. Follow Allerton Road for about 5 miles to a "T" intersection 
just after a bridge (1300 North Road or Country Road 1300N) and turn 
right (Don't turn at the Allerton Park entrance). Look for the Kalyx 
Center sign on the right side of the road in about a half mile.

Coming from Chicago via Interstate 57, there are TWO similar sounding 
exits - I-72 (the one we should take) and I-74 (don't take!). Make sure 
you avoid getting off on 74.


+++ Ticket Prices

18+ (unless accompanied by parent)
Children under 12 (accompanied by parent) FREE
$12 per person / $5 per vehicle


Parking is very, very limited. Once we run out of parking, we will have 
to turn more automobiles away. This is why we provide and strongly 
recommend pre-registration at this event.

Pre-registrations being accepted only up to October 3rd.
Register at http://www.chilluminati.org/karmaclysm/#tickets


+++ General Info

* Pets are not allowed.
* Portapotties are available onsite.
* Water and other beverages will be available for purchase.
* We encourage vending at this event. The vending fee is $25 in addition 
to basic registration. Contact us at crew (AT) chilluminati (DOT) org 
with your vending proposal.
* You can set up a tent if you want.
* Fire spinning is allowed, but you must know how to dance with fire 
safely.
* Participants can be refused entry or removed from the event for any 
reason.
* No ins and outs. Due to parking problems at the location, we cannot 
allow people to leave the park without paying an additional parking fee. 
If you leave the park, your vehicle is not guaranteed parking upon your 
return.
* No independent stages.
* Bring change of clothes for change in weather. It could be warm or 
cold, be prepared.

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Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chicago

2005.07.08fr
Josh Wink
Bonobo
@ Smartbar
3730 N Clark
Chicago, IL
21+
15$ / 10$ before 00:00
free admission with first reply via this e-mail only
(must include full name) 

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Subject: Re: [mw] FW: I LOVE TECHNO: FULL LINE UP- Drooling Allowed.

dr00L  <o_O>

--- dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> >From: "\:\: I LOVE TECHNO \:\:"
> <info@ilovetechno.be>
> >Reply-To: <10739-feedback-176@lb.bcentral.com>
> >To: "List Member" <kode_@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: I LOVE TECHNO: FULL LINE UP & START
> PRESALES!
> >Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:21:08 -0700
> >
> >10 YEARS I LOVE TECHNO :: FULL LINE UP & START
> PRESALES
> >
> >
> >FULL LINE UP
> >UNDERWORLD (LIVE) | DAVE CLARKE | TIGA | SUPER
> DISCOUNT 2 (LIVE) | RICHIE 
> >HAWTIN | SVEN VĂ„TH | MISS KITTIN | DERRICK MAY |
> VITALIC (LIVE) | COLLABS 
> >FEATURING CHRIS LIEBING & SPEEDY J (LIVE) | ADAM
> BEYER | T. RAUMSCHMIERE 
> >(LIVE) | MATTHEW DEAR (LIVE) | MARCO BAILEY |
> NATHAN FAKE (LIVE) | ROBERT 
> >HOOD | MAGDA | THE GLIMMERS | TOBI NEUMANN |
> T-QUEST | FIXMER/MCCARTHY 
> >(LIVE) | ANDRĂ‰ GALLUZZI | DR. LEKTROLUV | DJ BONE
> | CHRISTIAN SMITH | TROY 
> >PIERCE (LIVE) | DEG | TONY ROHR (LIVE) | PIERRE |
> DJ NAUGHTY | TOM HADES 
> >(LIVE) | JAN VAN BIESEN | SPACID | FRANCO CANGELLI
> >
> >THE ROOMS
> >1.	YELLOW ROOM (Europeâ€™s finest)
> >2.	GREEN ROOM (Hosted by Dave Clarke)
> >3.	ORANGE ROOM (Body to Body)
> >4.	BLUE ROOM (M-Nus, minimal techno)
> >5.	RED ROOM (Cocoon)
> >6.	SWITCH VIDEO ROOM (Live streaming)
> >
> >A birthday party with on the guest list, amongst
> others
> >-	The best live act of its kind, Underworld. Will
> they give us a first 
> >taste of their forthcoming album, to be released
> next year?
> >-	Entrusted with the green room line-up Dave Clarke
> put together a 
> >historical list of names, focusing on key artists
> and founding fathers.
> >-	â€śPleasure from the baseâ€? Tiga - will he wear
> his â€śsunglasses at 
> >nightâ€??
> >-	Etienne De CrĂ©cy, responsible for the French
> touch at I LOVE TECHNO with 
> >superdiscount 2
> >-	Soul father of the Cocoon Club and dito agency,
> Sven VĂ¤th holds the 
> >record for the highest number of appearances at I
> LOVE TECHNO.
> >-	The invincible metal disco warrior Vitalic just
> released his debut album 
> >â€śok cowboyâ€?.
> >-	The uncrowned queen of electro Miss Kittin
> scarcely needs to be 
> >introduced.
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> Where did everyone go?

zzzzz....huh?  wazzat?

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Where did everyone go?


You liberals ruin everything.




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what list?  seriously though, I was wondering the same
thing myself...the other day.  Did anyone by chance go
to Wonderland......I heard it wasn't too bad.  Reminds
me of back in the day....*sigh*

--- DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp
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> > Where did everyone go?
> 
> 
> You liberals ruin everything.
> 
> 
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> Santorum
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DJ Entropy wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Where did everyone go?
>
>
>
> You liberals ruin everything.

I like to mostly lurk and read, but this sort of shit is just assanine.  
Whatever your political views are, I always thought of ravers as being 
welcoming.  That was one of the things I liked about raves -- it didn't 
really matter who I was or where I came from.  I came to enjoy the music 
with other people who enjoyed the music. 

And, yes, I know that you, Trippy Pippi and Dan have exchanged e-mails, 
but truly, this stuff is ruining things for the rest of us.  I don't 
mind political discussions as long as they don't degrade into name 
calling.  Then, it's no longer a discussion, but a flame war.  Give it a 
rest already.  And this goes to everyone, not just Entropy.  I feel like 
an elementary teacher chastising her students for using "put-downs."  
It's ridiculous that I even have to write this e-mail.  Be respectful of 
one another.  Agree to disagree ... and a myriad of other cliches.

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Subject: [mw] introducing: MWiki 

Good morning, all.

Over the years, there has been some discussion about ways to make the MW-Raves 
webspace more dynamic and functional.  Some options were tried, but none really 
hit on what i was trying to get to... one of the other ways suggested was 
through wiki.  For my part, much confusion and some procrastination followed... 
although research continued.

Finally, last spring, MikeD and i decided to put our heads together and get 
this done.  The result thus far is MWiki: http://mw-raves.org/wiki

The intent is to better facilitate group participation in creating a web-based 
archive for the information out there about "the scene"... Events can be 
entered as they're announced, flyers and photos can be scanned and uploaded, 
and entries for past events can be written. It uses MediaWiki, essentially the 
same framework as http://wikipedia.org, so we know it's tried and true... and 
fairly flexible.

It's my pleasure to invite you all to check it out and make entries and edits 
when you have time.  People who create an account to log in to the wiki have a 
few more options.  More admins for the site will be considered as a pool of 
dedicated contributors grows.

Mikey has spent a great deal of time and thought researching and creating 
policies and guidelines 
(http://mw-raves.org/wiki/index.php/MWiki:Policies_and_guidelines) which will 
be invaluable for directing activities once traffic and participation 
increases.  None of this would have been possible without all of his efforts. 
He has also created a "template" for event articles which seems to work very 
well for our purposes.

All that's left is to breath some real life into this.  That's where you come 
in.  Spread the word.  We're looking for flyer art, verifyable info re: midwest 
artists (past & present), crews.. and pretty much any factual aspect of this 
culture that you can think of.  The result should speak for itself.

In the mean time, edit any area of the site you feel needs it.  feel free to 
share any suggestions either on the site's talk pages, here on the list, or to 
me directly.   My handle on the site and on irc/efnet is ovx - or email me at 
this address.

Thanks, everyone.  This should be fun.
.




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Hey, nice.

I stupidly tossed my flyers years ago, but recently found out that a  
good friend of mine kept all of his.  We're eventually going to get a  
case of beer and sit down to scan them all in.

Thanks for doing this..

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And this is one of the things I love about mw-raves. I just rejoined for a
few days because some dark part of me considered going to wonderland, and I
thought I would crash a net-meet or something. 
But for better or worse I get no mw-mail at all for a week...and then im
presented with a gem like this...

I like to mostly lurk and read, but when people use so many words to
'chastise' someone for a one-liner, and they _aren't_ trying to be assanine,
it's just...assanine. This isn't a rave. This is a mailing list, and
regardless of your political views, this is a medium of expression. If the
breadth of your personal expression is limited to raving, 'the music' and
chastising adult-aged school children, then I am sorry for you for having
joined the wrong list.

It's ridiculous that we even have to read these emails. Be respectful of one
another. Agree to disagree.

Plur

Micah



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DJ Entropy wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Where did everyone go?
>
>
>
> You liberals ruin everything.

I like to mostly lurk and read, but this sort of shit is just assanine.  
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but truly, this stuff is ruining things for the rest of us.  I don't 
mind political discussions as long as they don't degrade into name 
calling.  Then, it's no longer a discussion, but a flame war.  Give it a 
rest already.  And this goes to everyone, not just Entropy.  I feel like 
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Micah,  I think you've exceed the daily recommended doseage of irony
for a single post.

thanks for the chuckle,

Tad

On 9/28/05, Micah Topping <mt@eristocrat.net> wrote:
> And this is one of the things I love about mw-raves. I just rejoined for =
a
> few days because some dark part of me considered going to wonderland, and=
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> thought I would crash a net-meet or something.
> But for better or worse I get no mw-mail at all for a week...and then im
> presented with a gem like this...
>
> I like to mostly lurk and read, but when people use so many words to
> 'chastise' someone for a one-liner, and they _aren't_ trying to be assani=
ne,
> it's just...assanine. This isn't a rave. This is a mailing list, and
> regardless of your political views, this is a medium of expression. If th=
e
> breadth of your personal expression is limited to raving, 'the music' and
> chastising adult-aged school children, then I am sorry for you for having
> joined the wrong list.
>
> It's ridiculous that we even have to read these emails. Be respectful of =
one
> another. Agree to disagree.
>
> Plur
>
> Micah
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eponine [mailto:eponine@mn.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:57 AM
> To: djentropy@mindspring.com
> Cc: dan sharp; naybunny420@hotmail.com;
> Subject: Re: [mw] What happened to this list?
>
> DJ Entropy wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote=
:
> >
> >> Where did everyone go?
> >
> >
> >
> > You liberals ruin everything.
>
> I like to mostly lurk and read, but this sort of shit is just assanine.
> Whatever your political views are, I always thought of ravers as being
> welcoming.  That was one of the things I liked about raves -- it didn't
> really matter who I was or where I came from.  I came to enjoy the music
> with other people who enjoyed the music.
>
> And, yes, I know that you, Trippy Pippi and Dan have exchanged e-mails,
> but truly, this stuff is ruining things for the rest of us.  I don't
> mind political discussions as long as they don't degrade into name
> calling.  Then, it's no longer a discussion, but a flame war.  Give it a
> rest already.  And this goes to everyone, not just Entropy.  I feel like
> an elementary teacher chastising her students for using "put-downs."
> It's ridiculous that I even have to write this e-mail.  Be respectful of
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I knew everyone was still alive!! I just knew it..

   Now, if you all werent such a bunch of morons..

  just kidding..

       Did anyone actually goto Wonderland??

Any word? Anything?

  (0_o)


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Me, of all people!, did not attend Wonderland! MONEY SUCKS!!!! AND GAS CAN KISS MY ASS!!!
 
I wouldn't shut up about it all night, "Damnit, man! It's starting right NOW! I have just enough time to hold up a 7-11 and gas up; if only I had the ambition of a crackhead!"
 
I was so excited about it, I actually read The Adventures of Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass again. I had this dress and a red teapot......Phantom45!!!!....(tear rolls down my cheek, shake, quiver, sigh). But I refuse to let anger overcome my heart towards my former employer who still owes me over $5,000 - taxes. Thought I could make enough, but my second job fucked me on hours big time. Last year I had mono, this year I got fucked over by the devil, next year I'll be a Party Monster (Like a pure college virgin going buck-wild for the first time, ahBaby!!) I'm gonna be like fuckin pacman, munchin pills, swoopin down like a starving seagul, grabbin bags of shrooms and gobbeling them up like a ravenous mongrel, dancing spastically to every fuckin beat and hint of song. Nah, I'll try to be civil, but I'll definately be makin up for lost time!


dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:

I knew everyone was still alive!! I just knew it..

Now, if you all werent such a bunch of morons..

just kidding..

Did anyone actually goto Wonderland??

Any word? Anything?

(0_o)


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Uhm .. my point was that he was calling liberals names.  I wasn't saying 
that he shouldn't express himself, but that he could do so without name 
calling.  Doesn't matter, though.  I'm glad you got to appear so clever 
in manipulating my post and missing the point.  You must feel really 
smart.  Congratulations.

Anyway, I do agree that I have joined the wrong list so I will gladly 
unsubscribe.

Micah Topping wrote:

>And this is one of the things I love about mw-raves. I just rejoined for a
>few days because some dark part of me considered going to wonderland, and I
>thought I would crash a net-meet or something. 
>But for better or worse I get no mw-mail at all for a week...and then im
>presented with a gem like this...
>
>I like to mostly lurk and read, but when people use so many words to
>'chastise' someone for a one-liner, and they _aren't_ trying to be assanine,
>it's just...assanine. This isn't a rave. This is a mailing list, and
>regardless of your political views, this is a medium of expression. If the
>breadth of your personal expression is limited to raving, 'the music' and
>chastising adult-aged school children, then I am sorry for you for having
>joined the wrong list.
>
>It's ridiculous that we even have to read these emails. Be respectful of one
>another. Agree to disagree.
>
>Plur
>
>Micah
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eponine [mailto:eponine@mn.rr.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:57 AM
>To: djentropy@mindspring.com
>Cc: dan sharp; naybunny420@hotmail.com; 
>Subject: Re: [mw] What happened to this list?
>
>DJ Entropy wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Where did everyone go?
>>>      
>>>
>>
>>You liberals ruin everything.
>>    
>>
>
>I like to mostly lurk and read, but this sort of shit is just assanine.  
>Whatever your political views are, I always thought of ravers as being 
>welcoming.  That was one of the things I liked about raves -- it didn't 
>really matter who I was or where I came from.  I came to enjoy the music 
>with other people who enjoyed the music. 
>
>And, yes, I know that you, Trippy Pippi and Dan have exchanged e-mails, 
>but truly, this stuff is ruining things for the rest of us.  I don't 
>mind political discussions as long as they don't degrade into name 
>calling.  Then, it's no longer a discussion, but a flame war.  Give it a 
>rest already.  And this goes to everyone, not just Entropy.  I feel like 
>an elementary teacher chastising her students for using "put-downs."  
>It's ridiculous that I even have to write this e-mail.  Be respectful of 
>one another.  Agree to disagree ... and a myriad of other cliches.
>
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>I was so excited about it, I actually read The Adventures of Alice in 
>Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass again. I had this dress and a red 
>teapot......Phantom45!!!!....(tear rolls down my cheek, shake, quiver, 
>sigh).

Weird... You're the second person I've heard of who's finished Alice in 
Wonderland in the last week.  That sucks about Wonderland though...

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The rave scene being "accepting" is its greatest fault.




On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:02:33 -0400, Eponine <eponine@mn.rr.com> wrote:

> Uhm .. my point was that he was calling liberals names.  I wasn't saying  
> that he shouldn't express himself, but that he could do so without name  
> calling.  Doesn't matter, though.  I'm glad you got to appear so clever  
> in manipulating my post and missing the point.  You must feel really  
> smart.  Congratulations.
>
> Anyway, I do agree that I have joined the wrong list so I will gladly  
> unsubscribe.
>
> Micah Topping wrote:
>
>> And this is one of the things I love about mw-raves. I just rejoined  
>> for a
>> few days because some dark part of me considered going to wonderland,  
>> and I
>> thought I would crash a net-meet or something. But for better or worse  
>> I get no mw-mail at all for a week...and then im
>> presented with a gem like this...
>>
>> I like to mostly lurk and read, but when people use so many words to
>> 'chastise' someone for a one-liner, and they _aren't_ trying to be  
>> assanine,
>> it's just...assanine. This isn't a rave. This is a mailing list, and
>> regardless of your political views, this is a medium of expression. If  
>> the
>> breadth of your personal expression is limited to raving, 'the music'  
>> and
>> chastising adult-aged school children, then I am sorry for you for  
>> having
>> joined the wrong list.
>>
>> It's ridiculous that we even have to read these emails. Be respectful  
>> of one
>> another. Agree to disagree.
>>
>> Plur
>>
>> Micah
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eponine [mailto:eponine@mn.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28,  
>> 2005 5:57 AM
>> To: djentropy@mindspring.com
>> Cc: dan sharp; naybunny420@hotmail.com; Subject: Re: [mw] What happened  
>> to this list?
>>
>> DJ Entropy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where did everyone go?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You liberals ruin everything.
>>>
>>
>> I like to mostly lurk and read, but this sort of shit is just  
>> assanine.  Whatever your political views are, I always thought of  
>> ravers as being welcoming.  That was one of the things I liked about  
>> raves -- it didn't really matter who I was or where I came from.  I  
>> came to enjoy the music with other people who enjoyed the music. And,  
>> yes, I know that you, Trippy Pippi and Dan have exchanged e-mails, but  
>> truly, this stuff is ruining things for the rest of us.  I don't mind  
>> political discussions as long as they don't degrade into name calling.   
>> Then, it's no longer a discussion, but a flame war.  Give it a rest  
>> already.  And this goes to everyone, not just Entropy.  I feel like an  
>> elementary teacher chastising her students for using "put-downs."  It's  
>> ridiculous that I even have to write this e-mail.  Be respectful of one  
>> another.  Agree to disagree ... and a myriad of other cliches.
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scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
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sweet baby jesus.
 =3D*~_~*=3D


 On 9/28/05, Micah Topping <mt@eristocrat.net> wrote:
>
> And this is one of the things I love about mw-raves. I just rejoined for =
a
> few days because some dark part of me considered going to wonderland, and
> I
> thought I would crash a net-meet or something.
> But for better or worse I get no mw-mail at all for a week...and then im
> presented with a gem like this...
>
> I like to mostly lurk and read, but when people use so many words to
> 'chastise' someone for a one-liner, and they _aren't_ trying to be
> assanine,
> it's just...assanine. This isn't a rave. This is a mailing list, and
> regardless of your political views, this is a medium of expression. If th=
e
> breadth of your personal expression is limited to raving, 'the music' and
> chastising adult-aged school children, then I am sorry for you for having
> joined the wrong list.
>
> It's ridiculous that we even have to read these emails. Be respectful of
> one
> another. Agree to disagree.
>
> Plur
>
> Micah
>
>

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http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue13/brinkmann.htm
 it's rave-related because i said so, natch.
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All articles mentioning dave clarke(with or without the e)((SEE BELOW) are 
immediately disqualified.

It's kinda funny how things go. It's 2 AM, and I have less than 48 hours to 
complete this review for submission to Dave Clark,     <---- From article...

   (0_o)


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>http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue13/brinkmann.htm
>  it's rave-related because i said so, natch.
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, JayPee wrote:

> Hey, nice.
>
> I stupidly tossed my flyers years ago, but recently found out that a good 
> friend of mine kept all of his.  We're eventually going to get a case of beer 
> and sit down to scan them all in.
>
> Thanks for doing this..

i'm really glad we did.  it's been pretty fun learning how to set stuff 
up, etc.

iirc, it was you who initially suggested a wiki yay so many years ago,
so thanks for the idea :)

i still have a healthy box of fliers, as well... though i've lost some 
that i wish i hadn't.  i'll probably go out and get myself a new scanner 
sometime soon and start in on those, as well.

i put in an entry for my first party a few months back.. to give an idea 
of what those articles will look like.

http://mw-raves.org/wiki/index.php/North

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Subject: [mw] acid house roll call?

http://hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/event?event=05-10-01-acid.house

so who's going?


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WHAT LIST???


p.s. Dj Funk is dead.


p.p.s. *whacks the dead horse with the ultimate in PLURbatness*<BR><BR>


*bows*


have a good night motherfuckers! :p

-Becky :)
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me! I'm flying into D-town from a work trip just for
this. Can't miss D.A.V.E. the Drummer on the Wall of
Bass!

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Roll, roll, roll your brain
Gently down the stream!
Merrily, merrily, merrily
Life Is But A Dream!


Ryan Summers <plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I was so excited about it, I actually read The Adventures of Alice in 
>Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass again. I had this dress and a red 
>teapot......Phantom45!!!!....(tear rolls down my cheek, shake, quiver, 
>sigh).

Weird... You're the second person I've heard of who's finished Alice in 
Wonderland in the last week. That sucks about Wonderland though...

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From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
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Are you hoping we'll "accept" that?


DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
The rave scene being "accepting" is its greatest fault.




On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:02:33 -0400, Eponine wrote:

> Uhm .. my point was that he was calling liberals names. I wasn't saying 
> that he shouldn't express himself, but that he could do so without name 
> calling. Doesn't matter, though. I'm glad you got to appear so clever 
> in manipulating my post and missing the point. You must feel really 
> smart. Congratulations.
>
> Anyway, I do agree that I have joined the wrong list so I will gladly 
> unsubscribe.
>
> Micah Topping wrote:
>
>> And this is one of the things I love about mw-raves. I just rejoined 
>> for a
>> few days because some dark part of me considered going to wonderland, 
>> and I
>> thought I would crash a net-meet or something. But for better or worse 
>> I get no mw-mail at all for a week...and then im
>> presented with a gem like this...
>>
>> I like to mostly lurk and read, but when people use so many words to
>> 'chastise' someone for a one-liner, and they _aren't_ trying to be 
>> assanine,
>> it's just...assanine. This isn't a rave. This is a mailing list, and
>> regardless of your political views, this is a medium of expression. If 
>> the
>> breadth of your personal expression is limited to raving, 'the music' 
>> and
>> chastising adult-aged school children, then I am sorry for you for 
>> having
>> joined the wrong list.
>>
>> It's ridiculous that we even have to read these emails. Be respectful 
>> of one
>> another. Agree to disagree.
>>
>> Plur
>>
>> Micah
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eponine [mailto:eponine@mn.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 
>> 2005 5:57 AM
>> To: djentropy@mindspring.com
>> Cc: dan sharp; naybunny420@hotmail.com; Subject: Re: [mw] What happened 
>> to this list?
>>
>> DJ Entropy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:24:59 -0400, dan sharp 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Where did everyone go?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You liberals ruin everything.
>>>
>>
>> I like to mostly lurk and read, but this sort of shit is just 
>> assanine. Whatever your political views are, I always thought of 
>> ravers as being welcoming. That was one of the things I liked about 
>> raves -- it didn't really matter who I was or where I came from. I 
>> came to enjoy the music with other people who enjoyed the music. And, 
>> yes, I know that you, Trippy Pippi and Dan have exchanged e-mails, but 
>> truly, this stuff is ruining things for the rest of us. I don't mind 
>> political discussions as long as they don't degrade into name calling. 
>> Then, it's no longer a discussion, but a flame war. Give it a rest 
>> already. And this goes to everyone, not just Entropy. I feel like an 
>> elementary teacher chastising her students for using "put-downs." It's 
>> ridiculous that I even have to write this e-mail. Be respectful of one 
>> another. Agree to disagree ... and a myriad of other cliches.
>>
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From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
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> The rave scene being "accepting" is its greatest fault.
> 

Personally, I think the meth dealers were it's greatest fault.

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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:32:30 -0400, drthundr <drthundr@milwpc.com> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] What happened to what list?
>
>> The rave scene being "accepting" is its greatest fault.
>>
>
> Personally, I think the meth dealers were it's greatest fault.


No way.  How else you gonna stay awake at a rave?  The music sucks ass, so  
something's gotta keep your attention.




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