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Subject: [mw] INFLUENCE: The Final Chapter

Tuesday, August 2

Interrupt Media Group, Gapers Block, and Subsystence present the  
final installment of:

INFLUENCE.

Featuring unmixed DJ sets from:

JOSH WERNER (Antennae/Gramaphone)
COMMON FACTOR (Tactile/Soma/Planet E)
KARL MEIER (IMG/Subsystence)
KEN MEIER (IMG/Subsystence)

@ Sonotheque
1444 W Chicago Ave
Chicago, IL

Doors: 9 PM
No Cover!
21 and up

Flavorpill says: "Influence...gathers some of the city's most  
discriminating DJs and musicians for a night of unmixed sets that  
spans genres, providing the artists with an opportunity to drop some  
personal favorites that might not move the average dance floor."

http://www.gapersblock.com
http://www.subsystence.net
http://www.interrupt-media.com
http://www.sonotheque.net

Please forward!

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http://www.milwaukeetalkstar.com/  vote for nicole!!!  help my friend =
get a gig in radio!!!

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Why is it that we all love raves so much? And "drugs"?
 
The next time you look into another person's eyes, Know that you are the same, you are One, and observe how this makes you feel.......
 
That is why.
 
 
(You are me. I am you. We are One pretending two.)

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Subject: Re: [mw] Oneness

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Annette Kubernus wrote:

> (You are me. I am you. We are One pretending two.)
>

i am me.  you are you.  does rhyme make words ring any more true?

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Not strictly music but this will be a rager...

 From the local Burners. . .

For the first time, Burning Man BOP Camp and MAPS Camp join playa-covered 
hands with some of the largest party throwers in Chicago to bring you

*** BURNING CHOCOLATE ***

A community wide organic gathering in support of MAPS, Great Beats, Great 
Visuals, Good Friends, and an old Chocolate Factory.

TIME: August 13th, Saturday night ~ 10pm 'till whenever we want the party 
to stop

PLACE: 4710 W. Augusta, @ the intersection of Cicero and Augusta, Chicago, 
Illinois

FLYER: www.bopcamp.com

In an Old Chocolate Factory!!!
3 Floors of booty shaking, feet stomping, playing music as loud as we want! 
FUN!

18+ event, 21+ To drink with ID

Tixs- $15
$10 in costume or bring an old blanket (blankets will be sewn together to 
create a floor covering for one of the domes at Burning Man)

Music:

Lou Doobin
Rsb1000- MF Chicago
Levi
Max Cascone
Carla Starla
Chris Widman
Riverman
Chris Miller- Uptown Lounge
SOT- TOUCH Samahdi
Derby- TOUCH Samahdi
Kaiser Soze- PTLF/37H3R Milwaukee
Abominable Twitch- MF Chicago
DJ Duke- MF Chicago

Chill Space by The Chilluminati www.chilluminati.org

Live Performances by:

SPUNN- fire troupe- www.spunn.org
EE- Environmental Encroachment- www.encroach.net
Dominic Johnson- Violin as the sunrises
Drumming and Didgeridoo

Visuals by:

Psymbolic <http://www.psymbolic.com>http://www.psymbolic.com
Mason Dixon
gleneric jennings

Lasers by Magic Ben

Tapestries by Kevin Loftus

Hosted by MAPS Camp: The Psyche-delic Centre

MAPS Camp is a group of people from across the country that is heading to 
Burning Man and Black Rock City this year with the mission to bring 24/7 
psychedelic-themed entertainment. We are hosting 3 separate domes in Black 
Rock City, which will be home to diverse art, music, education and 
interaction on the psychedelic realm. Host to the Palenque Norte talks, 
which address psychedelics and altered consciousness, MAPS Camp intends to 
spread the wealth of knowledge that its campers possess.

MAPS is the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies www.maps.org

"Or, as Ixion fix'd, the wretch shall feel
The giddy motion of the whirling mill,
In fumes of burning chocolate shall glow,
And tremble at the sea that froths below!" "

- The Rape of the Lock, Canto 2, by Alexander Pope

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Hrm....  sounds better than  =20
"You are me.  I am you.  We are one pretending to be 6 billion" or whatever=
...
yay for  cracked out ravers babbling eastern religous ideologies...

On 8/10/05, chad <chad@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Annette Kubernus wrote:
>=20
> > (You are me. I am you. We are One pretending two.)
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>=20
> i am me.  you are you.  does rhyme make words ring any more true?
>=20
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Subject: [mw] the heat

Anybody else feel things heating up right now?  In terms of world events, 
wars, etc?  I get this strange feeling we're on the brink of another world 
war... or some sort of major event

Anyways, thats probably just my imagination, at least I hope so...  Curious 
if some of you have had similar feelings this past week.

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I am pretty sure that everything will get much worse, and then when we think 
that it cant get any worse.. It will..

   I dont tell you this to scare you, I just mentioned it, cause hopefully 
you will all die in your sleep. There is nothing I hate worse then people 
crying and whining about dieing before they make it there.. If nothing else, 
when everything gets worse.. Please die with honor and keep the noise down.

Thanks,

Dan

>From: "Ryan Summers" <plasticportal@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:41:46 -0600
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>Anybody else feel things heating up right now?  In terms of world events, 
>wars, etc?  I get this strange feeling we're on the brink of another world 
>war... or some sort of major event
>
>Anyways, thats probably just my imagination, at least I hope so...  Curious 
>if some of you have had similar feelings this past week.
>
>/ryan
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On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:41 AM, Ryan Summers wrote:

> Anybody else feel things heating up right now?  In terms of world  
> events, wars, etc?  I get this strange feeling we're on the brink  
> of another world war... or some sort of major event

Yes, the environment is going to collapse or there's going to be a  
war or something to that effect.  In short, we're all fucked.  Thanks  
for reminding me.

Love,
-jp

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Here are just some of the reports that have startled me in the past few 
days...

http://www.arcticbeacon.citymaker.com/articles/article/1518131/30722.htm
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index796.htm
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index798.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/110805terrordrill.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm

Crazy stuff!

/ryan

>On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:41 AM, Ryan Summers wrote:
>
>>Anybody else feel things heating up right now?  In terms of world  events, 
>>wars, etc?  I get this strange feeling we're on the brink  of another 
>>world war... or some sort of major event
>
>Yes, the environment is going to collapse or there's going to be a  war or 
>something to that effect.  In short, we're all fucked.  Thanks  for 
>reminding me.
>
>Love,
>-jp
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Subject: [mw] hi




what list?


(did it anyways)


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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote:

> what list?

you tell me, punk.

lookie what i found.

2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
DJ Funk vs Atomly
Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
@ Tini Martini
2169 N Milwaukee
Chicago, IL
21+
?$





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;)



im sayin. roadtrip it!




On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, chad wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote:
>
>>  what list?
>
> you tell me, punk.
>
> lookie what i found.
>
> 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
> DJ Funk vs Atomly
> Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
> @ Tini Martini
> 2169 N Milwaukee
> Chicago, IL
> 21+
> ?$
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>From: chad <chad@hyperreal.org>
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>lookie what i found.
>
>2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
>DJ Funk vs Atomly
>Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
>@ Tini Martini
>2169 N Milwaukee
>Chicago, IL
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wait a second...

i thought DJ Funk was dead.

-pm-

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ok, so seriously... who else is still on here?





On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, DJ .com wrote:

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>> From: chad <chad@hyperreal.org>
>> To: "Derek Plaslaiko." <derek@datavibe.net>
>> CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>> lookie what i found.
>> 
>> 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
>> DJ Funk vs Atomly
>> Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
>> @ Tini Martini
>> 2169 N Milwaukee
>> Chicago, IL
>> 21+
>> ?$
>
> wait a second...
>
> i thought DJ Funk was dead.
>
> -pm-
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: )   =   : )
 
Yet....
 
: )    /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\    : )


chad <chad@hyperreal.org> wrote:
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> (You are me. I am you. We are One pretending two.)
>

i am me. you are you. does rhyme make words ring any more true?

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noone!

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> ok, so seriously... who else is still on here?
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> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, DJ .com wrote:
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>>
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>>> From: chad <chad@hyperreal.org>
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>>> CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: Re: [mw] hi
>>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>
>>> lookie what i found.
>>>
>>> 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
>>> DJ Funk vs Atomly
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>>> @ Tini Martini
>>> 2169 N Milwaukee
>>> Chicago, IL
>>> 21+
>>> ?$
>>
>>
>> wait a second...
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>> i thought DJ Funk was dead.
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>> -pm-
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noone but us molecules.


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> noone!
> 
> Derek Plaslaiko. wrote:
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> >
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> >
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> > On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, DJ .com wrote:
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> >>
> >>
> >>> From: chad <chad@hyperreal.org>
> >>> To: "Derek Plaslaiko." <derek@datavibe.net>
> >>> CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [mw] hi
> >>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:45:18 -0700 (PDT)
> >>
> >>
> >>> lookie what i found.
> >>>
> >>> 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
> >>> DJ Funk vs Atomly
> >>> Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
> >>> @ Tini Martini
> >>> 2169 N Milwaukee
> >>> Chicago, IL
> >>> 21+
> >>> ?$
> >>
> >>
> >> wait a second...
> >>
> >> i thought DJ Funk was dead.
> >>
> >> -pm-
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> >> DJ .com
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, DJ .com wrote:

> wait a second...
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> i thought DJ Funk was dead.

afaik he still is...  think his mummified remains will be on display?

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WOW!!! That was like THE rave!
 
Beautiful non-smoking chill room (finally!), free water (bless you!), gorgeously intricate artful details everywhere, entirely fantastic people, and THE MUSIC!!!! Everybody dancing together; everyone so beautiful!! There were some people playing horns all draggy swingy sexxy like with bad ass drums taking hold of the whole building, like a giant musical entity resonating through our bodies! Holy shit!!!
 
I can't remember a time when I had so much fun.....it was precisely the way I've always wished a party to be. Way worth donating my baby blankie for; can't wait to be at
Burning Man O-|--<  next year: Have fun, everyone who's going this year!
 
Extraordinary people and energy! Fucking VITAL, man! LIVE LOUD!!!!!!!


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Subject: [mw] MW.RAVES.Calendar.08.18.05

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                   The MIDWEST RAVES Calendar MK whatever
                          Maintained by Trout Soup
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Originating from Cuyahoga Falls, OH, a place not really in the midwest, 
so deal with it!

* This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission *

I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm
mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO*
happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know!

The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the
latest information.
http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/ 
or http://mw-raves/calendar/
set your bookmarks appropriately  :)

Submissions, flames, threats, and your credit card numbers to:

   trout@hyperreal.org

please don't email me asking for more info.  what is listed here is what i
have been given.  if an infoline doesn't work, dunno what to say.

if an event is found to have a bad email address or infoline, they will be
removed, there MUST be a way to contact you about the event, by ravers and
other promoters.

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Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chicago
Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chicago
Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield, MO
Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chicago
Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chicago
Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. Louis
Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Oshkosh
Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chicago
Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colorado
Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chicago
Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Detroit
Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chicago
Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chicago

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Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chicago

2005.08.17we 22:00-04:00 Sommer Etikett
Hieroglyphic Being (live - Ghostly International, 6277, Klang Elektronk, 
Playhouse)
Meioticsoundsystemdjz (Marc vs Matthew)
Sassmouth (NBFC, Bang)
@ Betty's Blue Star Lounge
1600 W Grand
Chicago, IL
21+
0$ 

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Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chicago

2005.08.18th A Hot Hooray Release Party
Oly (live)
Kate Simko (live)
Atomly (live)
m50
@ Sonotheque
1444 W Chicago
Chicago, IL
21+
5$ 

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Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield, MO

8.19.05
The Blue Room
Springfield, Missouri
 

An intimate evening with:
 
Kid Kryptic, Robe Flax, Randy Soeung vs. Jimmy C. and Endelic


flyer:  
http://www.aerosault.com/albums/Fayetteville/aug_19_flyer.sized.jpg

<img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-19-blue_room.jpg">

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Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chicago

2005.08.19fr
Scan 7 (live - Detroit - Underground Resistance)
Monologic (live - Blazaebla)
Apocalpyse
Steve Christian
Hugo Moya
Lee Chameleon
@ Vision
640 N Dearborn
Chicago, IL
21+
10$ 

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Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chicago

August 19, 2005 CONGRESS THEATRE..

PRECIOUS PORKCHOPS PRESENT:
SPICE ..a night of revolutionary sounds..

just a little something different this time Chicago!!

With Special Performances By:

Belladonnakillz :Toronto,Ontario Canada dross:tik, kniteforce, 
tigerbeat6, industrial strength
Formed in 2002, belladonnakillz has been catching attention since the 
very start. Blending great songwriting with killer electronic
production and live show that rocks, nine inch nails and prodigy would 
be proud of this act. With the debut album, Perverted & Proud released 
on dross:tik records and several vinyl singles arriving on the famous 
kniteforce label, not including the remix and production work done for 
tigerbeat6 and industrial strength records, and a massive licensing deal 
with 3rd movement in Holland, this is a hot band with hits on their 
hands. www.belladonnakillz.com


Phallus Uber Alles (in their font.. which i will send to you just in
case..) Detroit, Michigan Fatal Recordings

Phallus ?ber Alles is the uterus of Slave Indvstries, a collective of
musicians and activists. Diesel, PUA's lead vocalist and founder has a 
tendency to engage in "atypical" female behavior, from shaving her hair 
into a mohawk to insisting on doing anything men can do. The name 
"Phallus ?ber Alles" is a statement on the world today, the continuing 
persistence of male-dominated hierarchies in nearly every industry and 
creative venue alike. On the strength of their 4-song demo, PUA was 
asked by Hanin Elias [former member of Atari Teenage Riot and founder of 
Fatal Recordings] to release their hard-hitting debut album, "Iron 
Woman." www.phallusuberalles.net

Danny the Wild Child Chicago, IL Canvas Recordings, Strickly Hype,Surge 
Recordings ..Chicago Junglist!!!

Dj Decay Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins

Mr. Bobby and Rayaline of the Androide Cult Chicago, IL

Surreality Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins

Mauser aka Miles Christian Chicago, IL Skulljakkx Recordings

White Owl VS.. Zebo Chicago, IL

@ Congress Theatre..
. $10
.. 18 and Up Must Have ID.. 9PM-4AM..

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Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. Louis

<img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-flashbackvibes.front.png">

<img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-flashbackvibes.back.png">

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Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Oshkosh

GarbageGame Kids
August 20th
Menomonee Park
Oshkosh, WI.
Noon - 9pm
All Ages!
Free!

Kyle Geiger
Indiana - Techno
www.KyleGeiger.com

Michael Wenz
Milwaukee - Techno
www.RavingLunatiks.com

Tinhead
Madison - Techno
www.DJTinhead.com

Imaginary Friend
Stevens Point - Turntablist Magic
Disko Creeps

Wobbler & Filament
Appleton - Techno
www.GarbageGame.com

Mr. Crispy
Appleton - Drum n Bass Stomping & Bleep Step
www.GarbageGame.com

Serby
Stevens Point - House
www.StudioGangstas.net

Sir Fice & Aeon
Milwaukee - Techno
www.AudioTribe.net

Alan!
Madison - Ambient Broken Polka LIVE!
Joint Effort

Milhouse
Madison - Funk n Hop
Turtle Time

DJ Orlow
Milwaukee - STYLE
www.AudioTribe.net

Lukewarm
Milwaukee - Deep House
Wisco Jazz Unit

Kruser
Green Bay - Drum n Bass
www.LockedDownProductions.com

MLE
Fox Cities - Drum n Bass
One Percenters

2nd Stage by Outlawed Productions!!

BYOB - No Glass Containers!

$1 raffle with merchandise from Garbage Pail Kids, GarbageGame, and
Shure! Lots of prizes including shirts, record bags, and GPK cards (old
and new)!

home pages for the party are www.garbagegame.com and
www.outlawedproductions.com

<img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-garbagegame_kids.gif">

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Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chicago

2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
DJ Funk vs Atomly
Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
@ Tini Martini
2169 N Milwaukee
Chicago, IL
21+
?$

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Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24
BassByThePound presents
THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
THE INSIDERS : METALHEADZ : UK
Lava 859 N. Damen
21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER

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Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colorado

[debated this one for a bit, dunno how MW colorado is?]
Tribe 23 presents
Definition August 27, 2005
at the Sherman St. Events Cntr
in Denver, Colorado

Featuring:
a special headliner tba shortly
The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) on 
6 decks
Woody Mcbride-live
K-Alexi
Osheen
Chad Mindrive
Jethrox
Matter-live
Micheal Hahn
Time Slips By-live

Locals include
Little Mike, Beekay, Nitro, Dynomite D, Dj Dragon, Charlie Koval, Cause, 
Sound Bionics-live, jackalope, Argon Bubble-live, redspecter-live, 
theory, lotrack, dong chi, dis=co!, waverunner, espu, phage, buddha bomb

Sound will be the legendary 'Wall of Bass', visuals in all for 
rooms.....lasers?--(you'll have to check it out)
18+ admittance/21+ can drink with id
This party will take place in a grand ballroom with four rooms......
There will be activities the night before, so come for the weekend.

please visit www.tribe23.com for the latest updates
call the infoline for out of state ticket reservations
there's only 2000 tickets..... so buy early! 

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Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chicago

UPCOMING EVENT // 08.26.05-08.28.05 -- "Dreamfields"

Audiognomes in association with The Chilluminati present "Dreamfields"
-- Consciousness cultivation through psychedelic sights and sounds.

Harvest your mind.

Join us at a private rural location in Beloit, WI for a CAMPOUT
mini-festival of psychedelic trance, intelligent dance and downtempo.
Music begins at 10 PM Friday, August 26th and ends at noon on Sunday,
August 28th, RAIN OR SHINE.
CAMPING commences at 7 PM Friday.

indoor & outdoor areas of sound via NUCLEAR SUBS

Special LIVE performance by :
JIRAH
Tim McCAll, known in the global trance community as Jirah, was born in
the southern United States and has released tracks on many prominent
psy labels including USTA, Dragonfly, Synergetic, Deja Vu, Vaporvent,
Aleph Zero, Harmonia, Organic and Spliff. This will be Jirah's FINAL
performance before withdrawing from the psy scene.
http://www.jirah.com

Get the first official vinyl pressing
as well as limited edition, numbered & signed
vinyl produced by Jirah @
http://www.psymbolic.com/shop/

DJs:

D.N.A. (Dan Efex)
Nepol Records, Chicago, IL
http://www.danefex.com
Dan Efex, a long time player in the trance scene, comes back to us
once again ready to deliver a heavy dosage of psychedelic trance upon
all those who stand before him.
JETO
Divine Balance Records, Los Angeles, CA
S.O.T.
TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
SCORPIO
Zodiac Productions, Chicago, IL
KAISER SOZE
PTLF / 37H3R, Milwaukee, WI
DERBY
TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
DJ STORM
PTLF, Milwaukee, WI
SHAI
Divine Balance Records, Chicago, IL
UNDERFOOT
Audiognomes, Madison, WI
TOKI
Audiognomes, Madison, WI
NASCENT
Audiognomes, New York, NY
GEAL
Audiognomes, Madison, WI
DJ ROBYO
Audiognomes, Rockford, IL
GENE STEALER
The Hive Mind, Kalamazoo, MI
SCREENDOOR
Niche, Milwuakee, WI
PSYGOMIN
Appleton, WI
PSILOPSYBEN
Madison, WI


Interactive Projected Visuals by
PSYMBOLIC VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
http://www.psymbolic.com
Internationally recognized visual artists
that have recently relocated to Chicago from Texas.
Their theme orientated visuals are composed of customized
video loops, in which they personally shoot, edit & effect.
They use exclusively programmed realtime visual software
& hardware to synch their video loops, camera inputs & effects
to the beat of the live music.

Projected Visuals by
THE PAKA PAKA LIGHTSHOW
The Paka Paka Lightshow consists of the father & son team Jerry and
Reuben Fortier and long time collaborator Dale Kaminski. In 1968,
Fortier founded the Eyes of Khamphalous Lightshow in Madison, WI. As
the visuals behind the Broadway production of "Warp" and the resident
lightshow for the Melkweg and Paradiso clubs in Amsterdam from 1969 to
1972, the Khamphalous Lightshow created a unique psychedlic visual
experience. The Paka Paka Lightshow brings this experience into the
digital age.

Refreshments by PSYCHAI

To bring :
-tent
-sleeping bag
-flashlight
-food/water
-NO ALCOHOL

RSVP minimum donation : $25 (INSANELY LOW PRICE-- feel free to donate
more if able)
At the door : $30*

RSVP locations :
http://www.chilluminati.org
http://www.audiognomes.com
http://www.psymbolic.com

*Guests are strongly advised to RSVP as event WILL sell out. 250 max
capacity! Door admission not guaranteed. PRE-REGISTRATION GUARANTEES
ENTRANCE!

Parking limited. $5 charge per vehicle. Please carpool.
18+ unless accompanied by parent
kids under 13 - free w/ parent
$25 vendor fee
entertainment subject to change
Come help us celebrate Toki's birthday!

Directions and more info pending!

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Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Detroit

VENUES: 7 Year Anniversary - Masonic Temple Fountain Ballroom
------------ MC2:Electronic BBQ

richie hawtin
luciano
monolake
+ more TBA

.... more info soon

PRESALES: available online at paxahau.com or in 3D at neptune and
recordtime ferndale beginning friday august 12th
AGE: 18+

QUESTIONS / CONCERNS connect@paxahau.com
http://paxahau.com/

<img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-xx-paxahau_7_year_anniv.gif">

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Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21
BassByThePound presents
THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
STAKKA : CARGO : NEW YORK
Lava 859 N. Damen
21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER

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Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chicago

GATE 9 PRODUCTIONS, IRRATIONAL MUZIKWERX, DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS CARTEL 
presents:

MOTION
9.17.2005 - Logan Square Auditorium
CHICAGO, ILLI-fucking-NOIS

The acts.......and their schedule.......
_________________________ _________________________ __________________
ROOM.1

MATHEMATIX (aka MC MTHMTX) and DREA
Etc. TECHNOlogies/Lumia/Proper Productions
Tampa, FL
Etctechno.com

1AM . 3AM

Don't miss this exclusive chance to witness the innovative performance 
by Equation as The "Equation 2005 Tour" makes a stop here in Chicago. 
The duo.s performance will feature MC MTHMTX (Theatrical performer and 
vocalist), as he will be incorporating his creative stage show and wild 
style of visually stimulating costumes and digitally enhanced vocals 
with real time synth filtered effects. All while the lovely Drea pumps 
out a high energy mix of multi-genre Progressive Electronic Dance 
Music.. Truly talented with her programming skills, and a wicked ear for 
music that reflects directly upon her track selection. Drea will take 
you on an aural journey through the music aspect of the show. This 
talented Diva sets the tempo and never lets up as the set progresses to 
extreme levels. She and Math will show you how they put a whole new 
meaning to a DJ/MC set! The Equation experience will create a dance 
filled frenzy that is sure to rock the joint and set your body in 
MOTION. With Drea in the mix and the performance by MC MTHMTX you.ll be 
sure to be blown away with an overwhelming display of vocal sound 
effects, video projections, and a cast of local talented dancers who 
will participate in the stage show., Equation will create a powerful 
atmosphere that will leave you wanting more!! The 2005 tour performance 
promises to give a taste of what to expect from "EQUATION" as they fine 
tune the upcoming LIVE PA act!!! Immediately following the Equation show 
catch the hard driving DJ set of DJ MathematiX as he will be droppin. 
the dark styles of Drum .n. Bass and Progressive NuSkool Breaks. Armed 
with an arsenal of exclusive dubs and some of his original tracks.

*****FREE GIVEAWAYS!!!!!*****during the Equation performance from 
Equation and Tour sponsors; System Recordings, Rinse Mag and more!!

ADAM X
Sonic Groove
NYC
Techno
djadamx.com

12AM . 1AM

In his DJ performances and track production, Adam X's sound is best 
described as hard, EBM and industrial inspired dance-floor techno & 
electro. Adam X penetrates, educates and infuses his audience with a 
real energy, often drawing from dark & sexual themes, through the 
mastery of the electronic music medium he has gained from a prolific 
career. Adam got started in NYC in the early '90s -an era of a 
burgeoning grass-roots music and club culture, which he himself had 
contributed to. In his career, Adam X has performed alongside artists 
such as Aphex Twin, Surgeon & Joey Beltram, and lately, the likes of 
Terence Fixmer/Douglas Mccarthy and Andrew Weatherall. He's performed at 
thousands of events, raves and club nights globally including Mayday, 
Love Parade, DEMF, and Fabric. Adam's list of solo commercial releases 
and collaborative projects on CD and vinyl is equally impressive. A few 
of the many labels Adam has released music under are Wax Trax-TVT 
(Mastermix Series Vol. 2), Instinct Records (Adam X 'On the 1 and 2'), 
Oliver Chesler's Things To Come Label (Sensory Deprivation) and many 
projects on his own aforementioned label, Sonic Groove. Adam currently 
has a chameleonic approach to his artistry, playing at Industrial events 
like Maschinenfest in Germany, to playing famous techno clubs the next 
night like Rex Club in Paris. His own productions also combine the two 
genres, containing elements of both in a single track.


SHUGGA b2b EVA(aka Evil Bunnie)
BOTZ/Native-Instruments/Temple of Boom/H2O/GrapeyBaby
Los Angeles, CA

11PM . 12AM

Raized on the East, reprezentin' the West, These Bitchez on Da Switchez 
are a combination like no other! No need for Drugz here when Shuggaz 
nastee NuSkool & Eva's evil electro tear through the speakerz and and 
shred yo brain like nothing you've ever experienced! Shuggaz been 
tearing it up worldwide for 8 years with Caffeine, Funk Dawg, Satellite 
NY, now Native, and Temple of Boom and Eva's ripping up the underground 
scene in LA like no other! Get ready to be rocked by the two of the 
sickest Breakz djs you will ever know! YOU WERE WARNED!

Psycho The Irrational Kidd
Irrational Mob Mentality/Gold Coast Multimedia/Funkilinium
Flint, MI

10PM . 11PM

Expect the unexpected. One of the most wildly unpredictable DJs that you 
will ever lay your eyes and ears upon. Psyc, a 24-year veteran of the 
turntables (and former Midwest scratch champ), recently gave up staying 
in one area because he believes that "if it's on vinyl, it's fair game". 
He also plays with FUNKILINIUM, a 6-piece powerhouse funk band that has 
been getting a lot of attention from the majors lately. Be there to 
witness why Psycho has been called "the missing link between Jeff Mills 
and the Tazmanian Devil".

Naughtya
Weekend Warriors
Grand Rapids, MI

9PM . 10PM

Nicknamed "The Booty Queen," Naughtya mixes the nastiest tracks, ranging 
from Ghetto House, Ghetto Tech, Booty, to Old School Miami Bass...All 
served up naughty, BUTT nice.



ROOM.2

Nico Blue
616 - JUNGLE Dark Heart Republic
Jenison, MI

2AM . 3AM

Nico has been spinning drum-and-bass for around 3 years in Grand Rapids, 
MI. From dancy to dark, soft to hard, he is known for his impressive 
track selection and guaranteed to have you moving all night long. Bring 
your body and he'll bring the bass.

John Johr
Cave DJs/Input<>Output | Detroit, MI | Techno

1AM . 2AM

This cat comes with the heart of a lion, the track selection of a 
supreme master and the mixing techniques that only Detroit can bring. 
John has been putting together one of the more premier nights for 
electronic music in Detroit for some time now (input<>output), and is 
now beginning to spread his wings outside of the D. Prepare to have your 
head bashed in.

Ryan H. and CL8NC
Division Underground
Bangin House/Tag Team Collaboration
Minnesota

12AM . 1AM

Straight from the Minneapolis massive, these tactical dechnicions 
provide a synergy between the electronic weaponry and the dance floor 
you don't want to miss.Together, these 2 D's will bring an arsenal of 
wax fresh of the press, molded with the Underground's 12" House 
classics.

Spektrum
(hard/dark/aggressive drum & bass, Kalamazoo, MI)

11PM . 12AM

This turntable assassin was born with a wide variety of skill and 
precision. His name is the epitome of his raw style which encompasses 
the full spectrum of drum & bass music, but you really should leave your 
silver bullets at home, cause this guy is definitely known for bringing 
it dark enough for the vampires...


Dj Roll
Race of Reaction/True Family Unit /C9 Records
- DnB, Hip Hop, Trip Hop
Champaign, IL

10PM . 11PM

Roll has been producing for 6 years, blending a steady mix of hip hop 
jungle and scratching About a year ago roll finally decided to take up 
the 1200's, deeming jungle as his weapon of choice. Having played along 
side the likes of Danny the Wild Child, True Family Unit, as well as 
fellow Race of Reaction peers, the last year has been a bombshell of 
productivity. Boasting a wide variety of tracks and one (of many) vinyl 
releases his sound will leave you, rollin, rollin.

Max Jerome
Irrational Mob Mentality | UKG/2step
Flint, MI

9PM . 10PM

Looks can be decieving. Max Jerome doesn't look the part of the funky 
get-down artist that rocks all points of UK Garage, but let him loose on 
the decks......and watch the bassbins react. He's been studying the 
Garage scene since 1997, and is a walking encyclopedia of all things 
UKG. Come witness the sound of the Bwoi them call Max J.....and see why 
he's top choice.....

_________________________ _________________________ ________________

A limited amount of presales will be available @

Wax Addict
1014 N. Ashland
Chicago, IL
773.772.9930

As well as, through Gate9Productions...tickets@gate9productions.com for 
more info.

beginning Apr.25.2005

Presales are $15

It will $20 ATD all night.


Web Support:

midwestravers.com
gate9productions.com
michiganravers.com
scenenetworks.com
detroitluv.com
kindkidz.us
mnvibe.com

<img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-17-motion.front.jpg">

<img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-17-motion.back.jpg">


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Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chicago

2005.07.08fr
Josh Wink
Bonobo
@ Smartbar
3730 N Clark
Chicago, IL
21+
15$ / 10$ before 00:00
free admission with first reply via this e-mail only
(must include full name) 

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Subject: Re: [mw] MW.RAVES.Calendar.08.18.05

Um..

The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) on
6 decks

is that for real?  that could be freaking cool... but  damn thats=20
long trip for something I wouldn't count on happening.

-Tad



On 18 Aug 2005 11:13:05 -0000, trout@hyperreal.org <trout@hyperreal.org> wr=
ote:
> -=3D<O>=3D---------------------------------------------------------------=
=3D<O>=3D-
>                    The MIDWEST RAVES Calendar MK whatever
>                           Maintained by Trout Soup
> -=3D<O>=3D---------------------------------------------------------------=
=3D<O>=3D-
>=20
> Originating from Cuyahoga Falls, OH, a place not really in the midwest,
> so deal with it!
>=20
> * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission *
>=20
> I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm
> mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO*
> happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know!
>=20
> The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the
> latest information.
> http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/
> or http://mw-raves/calendar/
> set your bookmarks appropriately  :)
>=20
> Submissions, flames, threats, and your credit card numbers to:
>=20
>    trout@hyperreal.org
>=20
> please don't email me asking for more info.  what is listed here is what =
i
> have been given.  if an infoline doesn't work, dunno what to say.
>=20
> if an event is found to have a bad email address or infoline, they will b=
e
> removed, there MUST be a way to contact you about the event, by ravers an=
d
> other promoters.
>=20
> -=3D<O>=3D---------------------------------------------------------------=
=3D<O>=3D-
>=20
> Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chica=
go
> Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chica=
go
> Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield, =
MO
> Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chica=
go
> Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chica=
go
> Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. Lou=
is
> Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Oshko=
sh
> Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chica=
go
> Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chica=
go
> Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colora=
do
> Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chica=
go
> Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Detro=
it
> Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chica=
go
> Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chica=
go
> Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chica=
go
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chica=
go
>=20
> 2005.08.17we 22:00-04:00 Sommer Etikett
> Hieroglyphic Being (live - Ghostly International, 6277, Klang Elektronk,
> Playhouse)
> Meioticsoundsystemdjz (Marc vs Matthew)
> Sassmouth (NBFC, Bang)
> @ Betty's Blue Star Lounge
> 1600 W Grand
> Chicago, IL
> 21+
> 0$
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chica=
go
>=20
> 2005.08.18th A Hot Hooray Release Party
> Oly (live)
> Kate Simko (live)
> Atomly (live)
> m50
> @ Sonotheque
> 1444 W Chicago
> Chicago, IL
> 21+
> 5$
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
--=3D-=3D-=3D-
>=20
> Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield, =
MO
>=20
> 8.19.05
> The Blue Room
> Springfield, Missouri
>=20
>=20
> An intimate evening with:
>=20
> Kid Kryptic, Robe Flax, Randy Soeung vs. Jimmy C. and Endelic
>=20
>=20
> flyer:
> http://www.aerosault.com/albums/Fayetteville/aug_19_flyer.sized.jpg
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-1=
9-blue_room.jpg">
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
--=3D-=3D-=3D-
>=20
> Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chica=
go
>=20
> 2005.08.19fr
> Scan 7 (live - Detroit - Underground Resistance)
> Monologic (live - Blazaebla)
> Apocalpyse
> Steve Christian
> Hugo Moya
> Lee Chameleon
> @ Vision
> 640 N Dearborn
> Chicago, IL
> 21+
> 10$
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chica=
go
>=20
> August 19, 2005 CONGRESS THEATRE..
>=20
> PRECIOUS PORKCHOPS PRESENT:
> SPICE ..a night of revolutionary sounds..
>=20
> just a little something different this time Chicago!!
>=20
> With Special Performances By:
>=20
> Belladonnakillz :Toronto,Ontario Canada dross:tik, kniteforce,
> tigerbeat6, industrial strength
> Formed in 2002, belladonnakillz has been catching attention since the
> very start. Blending great songwriting with killer electronic
> production and live show that rocks, nine inch nails and prodigy would
> be proud of this act. With the debut album, Perverted & Proud released
> on dross:tik records and several vinyl singles arriving on the famous
> kniteforce label, not including the remix and production work done for
> tigerbeat6 and industrial strength records, and a massive licensing deal
> with 3rd movement in Holland, this is a hot band with hits on their
> hands. www.belladonnakillz.com
>=20
>=20
> Phallus Uber Alles (in their font.. which i will send to you just in
> case..) Detroit, Michigan Fatal Recordings
>=20
> Phallus ?ber Alles is the uterus of Slave Indvstries, a collective of
> musicians and activists. Diesel, PUA's lead vocalist and founder has a
> tendency to engage in "atypical" female behavior, from shaving her hair
> into a mohawk to insisting on doing anything men can do. The name
> "Phallus ?ber Alles" is a statement on the world today, the continuing
> persistence of male-dominated hierarchies in nearly every industry and
> creative venue alike. On the strength of their 4-song demo, PUA was
> asked by Hanin Elias [former member of Atari Teenage Riot and founder of
> Fatal Recordings] to release their hard-hitting debut album, "Iron
> Woman." www.phallusuberalles.net
>=20
> Danny the Wild Child Chicago, IL Canvas Recordings, Strickly Hype,Surge
> Recordings ..Chicago Junglist!!!
>=20
> Dj Decay Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
>=20
> Mr. Bobby and Rayaline of the Androide Cult Chicago, IL
>=20
> Surreality Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
>=20
> Mauser aka Miles Christian Chicago, IL Skulljakkx Recordings
>=20
> White Owl VS.. Zebo Chicago, IL
>=20
> @ Congress Theatre..
> . $10
> .. 18 and Up Must Have ID.. 9PM-4AM..
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. Lou=
is
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-fl=
ashbackvibes.front.png">
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-fl=
ashbackvibes.back.png">
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Oshko=
sh
>=20
> GarbageGame Kids
> August 20th
> Menomonee Park
> Oshkosh, WI.
> Noon - 9pm
> All Ages!
> Free!
>=20
> Kyle Geiger
> Indiana - Techno
> www.KyleGeiger.com
>=20
> Michael Wenz
> Milwaukee - Techno
> www.RavingLunatiks.com
>=20
> Tinhead
> Madison - Techno
> www.DJTinhead.com
>=20
> Imaginary Friend
> Stevens Point - Turntablist Magic
> Disko Creeps
>=20
> Wobbler & Filament
> Appleton - Techno
> www.GarbageGame.com
>=20
> Mr. Crispy
> Appleton - Drum n Bass Stomping & Bleep Step
> www.GarbageGame.com
>=20
> Serby
> Stevens Point - House
> www.StudioGangstas.net
>=20
> Sir Fice & Aeon
> Milwaukee - Techno
> www.AudioTribe.net
>=20
> Alan!
> Madison - Ambient Broken Polka LIVE!
> Joint Effort
>=20
> Milhouse
> Madison - Funk n Hop
> Turtle Time
>=20
> DJ Orlow
> Milwaukee - STYLE
> www.AudioTribe.net
>=20
> Lukewarm
> Milwaukee - Deep House
> Wisco Jazz Unit
>=20
> Kruser
> Green Bay - Drum n Bass
> www.LockedDownProductions.com
>=20
> MLE
> Fox Cities - Drum n Bass
> One Percenters
>=20
> 2nd Stage by Outlawed Productions!!
>=20
> BYOB - No Glass Containers!
>=20
> $1 raffle with merchandise from Garbage Pail Kids, GarbageGame, and
> Shure! Lots of prizes including shirts, record bags, and GPK cards (old
> and new)!
>=20
> home pages for the party are www.garbagegame.com and
> www.outlawedproductions.com
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-ga=
rbagegame_kids.gif">
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chica=
go
>=20
> 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
> DJ Funk vs Atomly
> Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
> @ Tini Martini
> 2169 N Milwaukee
> Chicago, IL
> 21+
> ?$
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
--=3D-=3D-=3D-
>=20
> Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chica=
go
>=20
> WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24
> BassByThePound presents
> THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
> THE INSIDERS : METALHEADZ : UK
> Lava 859 N. Damen
> 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colora=
do
>=20
> [debated this one for a bit, dunno how MW colorado is?]
> Tribe 23 presents
> Definition August 27, 2005
> at the Sherman St. Events Cntr
> in Denver, Colorado
>=20
> Featuring:
> a special headliner tba shortly
> The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) on
> 6 decks
> Woody Mcbride-live
> K-Alexi
> Osheen
> Chad Mindrive
> Jethrox
> Matter-live
> Micheal Hahn
> Time Slips By-live
>=20
> Locals include
> Little Mike, Beekay, Nitro, Dynomite D, Dj Dragon, Charlie Koval, Cause,
> Sound Bionics-live, jackalope, Argon Bubble-live, redspecter-live,
> theory, lotrack, dong chi, dis=3Dco!, waverunner, espu, phage, buddha bom=
b
>=20
> Sound will be the legendary 'Wall of Bass', visuals in all for
> rooms.....lasers?--(you'll have to check it out)
> 18+ admittance/21+ can drink with id
> This party will take place in a grand ballroom with four rooms......
> There will be activities the night before, so come for the weekend.
>=20
> please visit www.tribe23.com for the latest updates
> call the infoline for out of state ticket reservations
> there's only 2000 tickets..... so buy early!
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chica=
go
>=20
> UPCOMING EVENT // 08.26.05-08.28.05 -- "Dreamfields"
>=20
> Audiognomes in association with The Chilluminati present "Dreamfields"
> -- Consciousness cultivation through psychedelic sights and sounds.
>=20
> Harvest your mind.
>=20
> Join us at a private rural location in Beloit, WI for a CAMPOUT
> mini-festival of psychedelic trance, intelligent dance and downtempo.
> Music begins at 10 PM Friday, August 26th and ends at noon on Sunday,
> August 28th, RAIN OR SHINE.
> CAMPING commences at 7 PM Friday.
>=20
> indoor & outdoor areas of sound via NUCLEAR SUBS
>=20
> Special LIVE performance by :
> JIRAH
> Tim McCAll, known in the global trance community as Jirah, was born in
> the southern United States and has released tracks on many prominent
> psy labels including USTA, Dragonfly, Synergetic, Deja Vu, Vaporvent,
> Aleph Zero, Harmonia, Organic and Spliff. This will be Jirah's FINAL
> performance before withdrawing from the psy scene.
> http://www.jirah.com
>=20
> Get the first official vinyl pressing
> as well as limited edition, numbered & signed
> vinyl produced by Jirah @
> http://www.psymbolic.com/shop/
>=20
> DJs:
>=20
> D.N.A. (Dan Efex)
> Nepol Records, Chicago, IL
> http://www.danefex.com
> Dan Efex, a long time player in the trance scene, comes back to us
> once again ready to deliver a heavy dosage of psychedelic trance upon
> all those who stand before him.
> JETO
> Divine Balance Records, Los Angeles, CA
> S.O.T.
> TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
> SCORPIO
> Zodiac Productions, Chicago, IL
> KAISER SOZE
> PTLF / 37H3R, Milwaukee, WI
> DERBY
> TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
> DJ STORM
> PTLF, Milwaukee, WI
> SHAI
> Divine Balance Records, Chicago, IL
> UNDERFOOT
> Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> TOKI
> Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> NASCENT
> Audiognomes, New York, NY
> GEAL
> Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> DJ ROBYO
> Audiognomes, Rockford, IL
> GENE STEALER
> The Hive Mind, Kalamazoo, MI
> SCREENDOOR
> Niche, Milwuakee, WI
> PSYGOMIN
> Appleton, WI
> PSILOPSYBEN
> Madison, WI
>=20
>=20
> Interactive Projected Visuals by
> PSYMBOLIC VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
> http://www.psymbolic.com
> Internationally recognized visual artists
> that have recently relocated to Chicago from Texas.
> Their theme orientated visuals are composed of customized
> video loops, in which they personally shoot, edit & effect.
> They use exclusively programmed realtime visual software
> & hardware to synch their video loops, camera inputs & effects
> to the beat of the live music.
>=20
> Projected Visuals by
> THE PAKA PAKA LIGHTSHOW
> The Paka Paka Lightshow consists of the father & son team Jerry and
> Reuben Fortier and long time collaborator Dale Kaminski. In 1968,
> Fortier founded the Eyes of Khamphalous Lightshow in Madison, WI. As
> the visuals behind the Broadway production of "Warp" and the resident
> lightshow for the Melkweg and Paradiso clubs in Amsterdam from 1969 to
> 1972, the Khamphalous Lightshow created a unique psychedlic visual
> experience. The Paka Paka Lightshow brings this experience into the
> digital age.
>=20
> Refreshments by PSYCHAI
>=20
> To bring :
> -tent
> -sleeping bag
> -flashlight
> -food/water
> -NO ALCOHOL
>=20
> RSVP minimum donation : $25 (INSANELY LOW PRICE-- feel free to donate
> more if able)
> At the door : $30*
>=20
> RSVP locations :
> http://www.chilluminati.org
> http://www.audiognomes.com
> http://www.psymbolic.com
>=20
> *Guests are strongly advised to RSVP as event WILL sell out. 250 max
> capacity! Door admission not guaranteed. PRE-REGISTRATION GUARANTEES
> ENTRANCE!
>=20
> Parking limited. $5 charge per vehicle. Please carpool.
> 18+ unless accompanied by parent
> kids under 13 - free w/ parent
> $25 vendor fee
> entertainment subject to change
> Come help us celebrate Toki's birthday!
>=20
> Directions and more info pending!
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Detro=
it
>=20
> VENUES: 7 Year Anniversary - Masonic Temple Fountain Ballroom
> ------------ MC2:Electronic BBQ
>=20
> richie hawtin
> luciano
> monolake
> + more TBA
>=20
> .... more info soon
>=20
> PRESALES: available online at paxahau.com or in 3D at neptune and
> recordtime ferndale beginning friday august 12th
> AGE: 18+
>=20
> QUESTIONS / CONCERNS connect@paxahau.com
> http://paxahau.com/
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-x=
x-paxahau_7_year_anniv.gif">
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chica=
go
>=20
> WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21
> BassByThePound presents
> THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
> STAKKA : CARGO : NEW YORK
> Lava 859 N. Damen
> 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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>=20
> Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chica=
go
>=20
> GATE 9 PRODUCTIONS, IRRATIONAL MUZIKWERX, DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS CARTEL
> presents:
>=20
> MOTION
> 9.17.2005 - Logan Square Auditorium
> CHICAGO, ILLI-fucking-NOIS
>=20
> The acts.......and their schedule.......
> _________________________ _________________________ __________________
> ROOM.1
>=20
> MATHEMATIX (aka MC MTHMTX) and DREA
> Etc. TECHNOlogies/Lumia/Proper Productions
> Tampa, FL
> Etctechno.com
>=20
> 1AM . 3AM
>=20
> Don't miss this exclusive chance to witness the innovative performance
> by Equation as The "Equation 2005 Tour" makes a stop here in Chicago.
> The duo.s performance will feature MC MTHMTX (Theatrical performer and
> vocalist), as he will be incorporating his creative stage show and wild
> style of visually stimulating costumes and digitally enhanced vocals
> with real time synth filtered effects. All while the lovely Drea pumps
> out a high energy mix of multi-genre Progressive Electronic Dance
> Music.. Truly talented with her programming skills, and a wicked ear for
> music that reflects directly upon her track selection. Drea will take
> you on an aural journey through the music aspect of the show. This
> talented Diva sets the tempo and never lets up as the set progresses to
> extreme levels. She and Math will show you how they put a whole new
> meaning to a DJ/MC set! The Equation experience will create a dance
> filled frenzy that is sure to rock the joint and set your body in
> MOTION. With Drea in the mix and the performance by MC MTHMTX you.ll be
> sure to be blown away with an overwhelming display of vocal sound
> effects, video projections, and a cast of local talented dancers who
> will participate in the stage show., Equation will create a powerful
> atmosphere that will leave you wanting more!! The 2005 tour performance
> promises to give a taste of what to expect from "EQUATION" as they fine
> tune the upcoming LIVE PA act!!! Immediately following the Equation show
> catch the hard driving DJ set of DJ MathematiX as he will be droppin.
> the dark styles of Drum .n. Bass and Progressive NuSkool Breaks. Armed
> with an arsenal of exclusive dubs and some of his original tracks.
>=20
> *****FREE GIVEAWAYS!!!!!*****during the Equation performance from
> Equation and Tour sponsors; System Recordings, Rinse Mag and more!!
>=20
> ADAM X
> Sonic Groove
> NYC
> Techno
> djadamx.com
>=20
> 12AM . 1AM
>=20
> In his DJ performances and track production, Adam X's sound is best
> described as hard, EBM and industrial inspired dance-floor techno &
> electro. Adam X penetrates, educates and infuses his audience with a
> real energy, often drawing from dark & sexual themes, through the
> mastery of the electronic music medium he has gained from a prolific
> career. Adam got started in NYC in the early '90s -an era of a
> burgeoning grass-roots music and club culture, which he himself had
> contributed to. In his career, Adam X has performed alongside artists
> such as Aphex Twin, Surgeon & Joey Beltram, and lately, the likes of
> Terence Fixmer/Douglas Mccarthy and Andrew Weatherall. He's performed at
> thousands of events, raves and club nights globally including Mayday,
> Love Parade, DEMF, and Fabric. Adam's list of solo commercial releases
> and collaborative projects on CD and vinyl is equally impressive. A few
> of the many labels Adam has released music under are Wax Trax-TVT
> (Mastermix Series Vol. 2), Instinct Records (Adam X 'On the 1 and 2'),
> Oliver Chesler's Things To Come Label (Sensory Deprivation) and many
> projects on his own aforementioned label, Sonic Groove. Adam currently
> has a chameleonic approach to his artistry, playing at Industrial events
> like Maschinenfest in Germany, to playing famous techno clubs the next
> night like Rex Club in Paris. His own productions also combine the two
> genres, containing elements of both in a single track.
>=20
>=20
> SHUGGA b2b EVA(aka Evil Bunnie)
> BOTZ/Native-Instruments/Temple of Boom/H2O/GrapeyBaby
> Los Angeles, CA
>=20
> 11PM . 12AM
>=20
> Raized on the East, reprezentin' the West, These Bitchez on Da Switchez
> are a combination like no other! No need for Drugz here when Shuggaz
> nastee NuSkool & Eva's evil electro tear through the speakerz and and
> shred yo brain like nothing you've ever experienced! Shuggaz been
> tearing it up worldwide for 8 years with Caffeine, Funk Dawg, Satellite
> NY, now Native, and Temple of Boom and Eva's ripping up the underground
> scene in LA like no other! Get ready to be rocked by the two of the
> sickest Breakz djs you will ever know! YOU WERE WARNED!
>=20
> Psycho The Irrational Kidd
> Irrational Mob Mentality/Gold Coast Multimedia/Funkilinium
> Flint, MI
>=20
> 10PM . 11PM
>=20
> Expect the unexpected. One of the most wildly unpredictable DJs that you
> will ever lay your eyes and ears upon. Psyc, a 24-year veteran of the
> turntables (and former Midwest scratch champ), recently gave up staying
> in one area because he believes that "if it's on vinyl, it's fair game".
> He also plays with FUNKILINIUM, a 6-piece powerhouse funk band that has
> been getting a lot of attention from the majors lately. Be there to
> witness why Psycho has been called "the missing link between Jeff Mills
> and the Tazmanian Devil".
>=20
> Naughtya
> Weekend Warriors
> Grand Rapids, MI
>=20
> 9PM . 10PM
>=20
> Nicknamed "The Booty Queen," Naughtya mixes the nastiest tracks, ranging
> from Ghetto House, Ghetto Tech, Booty, to Old School Miami Bass...All
> served up naughty, BUTT nice.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> ROOM.2
>=20
> Nico Blue
> 616 - JUNGLE Dark Heart Republic
> Jenison, MI
>=20
> 2AM . 3AM
>=20
> Nico has been spinning drum-and-bass for around 3 years in Grand Rapids,
> MI. From dancy to dark, soft to hard, he is known for his impressive
> track selection and guaranteed to have you moving all night long. Bring
> your body and he'll bring the bass.
>=20
> John Johr
> Cave DJs/Input<>Output | Detroit, MI | Techno
>=20
> 1AM . 2AM
>=20
> This cat comes with the heart of a lion, the track selection of a
> supreme master and the mixing techniques that only Detroit can bring.
> John has been putting together one of the more premier nights for
> electronic music in Detroit for some time now (input<>output), and is
> now beginning to spread his wings outside of the D. Prepare to have your
> head bashed in.
>=20
> Ryan H. and CL8NC
> Division Underground
> Bangin House/Tag Team Collaboration
> Minnesota
>=20
> 12AM . 1AM
>=20
> Straight from the Minneapolis massive, these tactical dechnicions
> provide a synergy between the electronic weaponry and the dance floor
> you don't want to miss.Together, these 2 D's will bring an arsenal of
> wax fresh of the press, molded with the Underground's 12" House
> classics.
>=20
> Spektrum
> (hard/dark/aggressive drum & bass, Kalamazoo, MI)
>=20
> 11PM . 12AM
>=20
> This turntable assassin was born with a wide variety of skill and
> precision. His name is the epitome of his raw style which encompasses
> the full spectrum of drum & bass music, but you really should leave your
> silver bullets at home, cause this guy is definitely known for bringing
> it dark enough for the vampires...
>=20
>=20
> Dj Roll
> Race of Reaction/True Family Unit /C9 Records
> - DnB, Hip Hop, Trip Hop
> Champaign, IL
>=20
> 10PM . 11PM
>=20
> Roll has been producing for 6 years, blending a steady mix of hip hop
> jungle and scratching About a year ago roll finally decided to take up
> the 1200's, deeming jungle as his weapon of choice. Having played along
> side the likes of Danny the Wild Child, True Family Unit, as well as
> fellow Race of Reaction peers, the last year has been a bombshell of
> productivity. Boasting a wide variety of tracks and one (of many) vinyl
> releases his sound will leave you, rollin, rollin.
>=20
> Max Jerome
> Irrational Mob Mentality | UKG/2step
> Flint, MI
>=20
> 9PM . 10PM
>=20
> Looks can be decieving. Max Jerome doesn't look the part of the funky
> get-down artist that rocks all points of UK Garage, but let him loose on
> the decks......and watch the bassbins react. He's been studying the
> Garage scene since 1997, and is a walking encyclopedia of all things
> UKG. Come witness the sound of the Bwoi them call Max J.....and see why
> he's top choice.....
>=20
> _________________________ _________________________ ________________
>=20
> A limited amount of presales will be available @
>=20
> Wax Addict
> 1014 N. Ashland
> Chicago, IL
> 773.772.9930
>=20
> As well as, through Gate9Productions...tickets@gate9productions.com for
> more info.
>=20
> beginning Apr.25.2005
>=20
> Presales are $15
>=20
> It will $20 ATD all night.
>=20
>=20
> Web Support:
>=20
> midwestravers.com
> gate9productions.com
> michiganravers.com
> scenenetworks.com
> detroitluv.com
> kindkidz.us
> mnvibe.com
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-1=
7-motion.front.jpg">
>=20
> <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-1=
7-motion.back.jpg">
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> Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chica=
go
>=20
> 2005.07.08fr
> Josh Wink
> Bonobo
> @ Smartbar
> 3730 N Clark
> Chicago, IL
> 21+
> 15$ / 10$ before 00:00
> free admission with first reply via this e-mail only
> (must include full name)
>=20
> -=3D-=3D-=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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> compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Aug 18 04:13:05 PDT 2005=
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Subject: Re: [mw] MW.RAVES.Calendar.08.18.05

Yep, it is for real.   =3D)   The people doing the gig are supposedly on
the up and up (according to my friends here).   I bought my pre sale
tickets today ;)

In case you all didn't know.  I relocated to Denver. =20

-mike

On 8/18/05, Tad Dicks <tad604@gmail.com> wrote:
> Um..
>=20
> The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) on
> 6 decks
>=20
> is that for real?  that could be freaking cool... but  damn thats
> long trip for something I wouldn't count on happening.
>=20
> -Tad
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 18 Aug 2005 11:13:05 -0000, trout@hyperreal.org <trout@hyperreal.org> =
wrote:
> > -=3D<O>=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
--=3D<O>=3D-
> >                    The MIDWEST RAVES Calendar MK whatever
> >                           Maintained by Trout Soup
> > -=3D<O>=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
--=3D<O>=3D-
> >
> > Originating from Cuyahoga Falls, OH, a place not really in the midwest,
> > so deal with it!
> >
> > * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission=
 *
> >
> > I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'=
m
> > mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO*
> > happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know!
> >
> > The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the
> > latest information.
> > http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/
> > or http://mw-raves/calendar/
> > set your bookmarks appropriately  :)
> >
> > Submissions, flames, threats, and your credit card numbers to:
> >
> >    trout@hyperreal.org
> >
> > please don't email me asking for more info.  what is listed here is wha=
t i
> > have been given.  if an infoline doesn't work, dunno what to say.
> >
> > if an event is found to have a bad email address or infoline, they will=
 be
> > removed, there MUST be a way to contact you about the event, by ravers =
and
> > other promoters.
> >
> > -=3D<O>=3D-------------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chi=
cago
> > Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chi=
cago
> > Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield=
, MO
> > Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chi=
cago
> > Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chi=
cago
> > Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. L=
ouis
> > Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Osh=
kosh
> > Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chi=
cago
> > Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chi=
cago
> > Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colo=
rado
> > Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chi=
cago
> > Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Det=
roit
> > Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chi=
cago
> > Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chi=
cago
> > Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chi=
cago
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chi=
cago
> >
> > 2005.08.17we 22:00-04:00 Sommer Etikett
> > Hieroglyphic Being (live - Ghostly International, 6277, Klang Elektronk=
,
> > Playhouse)
> > Meioticsoundsystemdjz (Marc vs Matthew)
> > Sassmouth (NBFC, Bang)
> > @ Betty's Blue Star Lounge
> > 1600 W Grand
> > Chicago, IL
> > 21+
> > 0$
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chi=
cago
> >
> > 2005.08.18th A Hot Hooray Release Party
> > Oly (live)
> > Kate Simko (live)
> > Atomly (live)
> > m50
> > @ Sonotheque
> > 1444 W Chicago
> > Chicago, IL
> > 21+
> > 5$
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield=
, MO
> >
> > 8.19.05
> > The Blue Room
> > Springfield, Missouri
> >
> >
> > An intimate evening with:
> >
> > Kid Kryptic, Robe Flax, Randy Soeung vs. Jimmy C. and Endelic
> >
> >
> > flyer:
> > http://www.aerosault.com/albums/Fayetteville/aug_19_flyer.sized.jpg
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08=
-19-blue_room.jpg">
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chi=
cago
> >
> > 2005.08.19fr
> > Scan 7 (live - Detroit - Underground Resistance)
> > Monologic (live - Blazaebla)
> > Apocalpyse
> > Steve Christian
> > Hugo Moya
> > Lee Chameleon
> > @ Vision
> > 640 N Dearborn
> > Chicago, IL
> > 21+
> > 10$
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chi=
cago
> >
> > August 19, 2005 CONGRESS THEATRE..
> >
> > PRECIOUS PORKCHOPS PRESENT:
> > SPICE ..a night of revolutionary sounds..
> >
> > just a little something different this time Chicago!!
> >
> > With Special Performances By:
> >
> > Belladonnakillz :Toronto,Ontario Canada dross:tik, kniteforce,
> > tigerbeat6, industrial strength
> > Formed in 2002, belladonnakillz has been catching attention since the
> > very start. Blending great songwriting with killer electronic
> > production and live show that rocks, nine inch nails and prodigy would
> > be proud of this act. With the debut album, Perverted & Proud released
> > on dross:tik records and several vinyl singles arriving on the famous
> > kniteforce label, not including the remix and production work done for
> > tigerbeat6 and industrial strength records, and a massive licensing dea=
l
> > with 3rd movement in Holland, this is a hot band with hits on their
> > hands. www.belladonnakillz.com
> >
> >
> > Phallus Uber Alles (in their font.. which i will send to you just in
> > case..) Detroit, Michigan Fatal Recordings
> >
> > Phallus ?ber Alles is the uterus of Slave Indvstries, a collective of
> > musicians and activists. Diesel, PUA's lead vocalist and founder has a
> > tendency to engage in "atypical" female behavior, from shaving her hair
> > into a mohawk to insisting on doing anything men can do. The name
> > "Phallus ?ber Alles" is a statement on the world today, the continuing
> > persistence of male-dominated hierarchies in nearly every industry and
> > creative venue alike. On the strength of their 4-song demo, PUA was
> > asked by Hanin Elias [former member of Atari Teenage Riot and founder o=
f
> > Fatal Recordings] to release their hard-hitting debut album, "Iron
> > Woman." www.phallusuberalles.net
> >
> > Danny the Wild Child Chicago, IL Canvas Recordings, Strickly Hype,Surge
> > Recordings ..Chicago Junglist!!!
> >
> > Dj Decay Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
> >
> > Mr. Bobby and Rayaline of the Androide Cult Chicago, IL
> >
> > Surreality Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
> >
> > Mauser aka Miles Christian Chicago, IL Skulljakkx Recordings
> >
> > White Owl VS.. Zebo Chicago, IL
> >
> > @ Congress Theatre..
> > . $10
> > .. 18 and Up Must Have ID.. 9PM-4AM..
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. L=
ouis
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-=
flashbackvibes.front.png">
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-=
flashbackvibes.back.png">
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Osh=
kosh
> >
> > GarbageGame Kids
> > August 20th
> > Menomonee Park
> > Oshkosh, WI.
> > Noon - 9pm
> > All Ages!
> > Free!
> >
> > Kyle Geiger
> > Indiana - Techno
> > www.KyleGeiger.com
> >
> > Michael Wenz
> > Milwaukee - Techno
> > www.RavingLunatiks.com
> >
> > Tinhead
> > Madison - Techno
> > www.DJTinhead.com
> >
> > Imaginary Friend
> > Stevens Point - Turntablist Magic
> > Disko Creeps
> >
> > Wobbler & Filament
> > Appleton - Techno
> > www.GarbageGame.com
> >
> > Mr. Crispy
> > Appleton - Drum n Bass Stomping & Bleep Step
> > www.GarbageGame.com
> >
> > Serby
> > Stevens Point - House
> > www.StudioGangstas.net
> >
> > Sir Fice & Aeon
> > Milwaukee - Techno
> > www.AudioTribe.net
> >
> > Alan!
> > Madison - Ambient Broken Polka LIVE!
> > Joint Effort
> >
> > Milhouse
> > Madison - Funk n Hop
> > Turtle Time
> >
> > DJ Orlow
> > Milwaukee - STYLE
> > www.AudioTribe.net
> >
> > Lukewarm
> > Milwaukee - Deep House
> > Wisco Jazz Unit
> >
> > Kruser
> > Green Bay - Drum n Bass
> > www.LockedDownProductions.com
> >
> > MLE
> > Fox Cities - Drum n Bass
> > One Percenters
> >
> > 2nd Stage by Outlawed Productions!!
> >
> > BYOB - No Glass Containers!
> >
> > $1 raffle with merchandise from Garbage Pail Kids, GarbageGame, and
> > Shure! Lots of prizes including shirts, record bags, and GPK cards (old
> > and new)!
> >
> > home pages for the party are www.garbagegame.com and
> > www.outlawedproductions.com
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-=
garbagegame_kids.gif">
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chi=
cago
> >
> > 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
> > DJ Funk vs Atomly
> > Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
> > @ Tini Martini
> > 2169 N Milwaukee
> > Chicago, IL
> > 21+
> > ?$
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chi=
cago
> >
> > WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24
> > BassByThePound presents
> > THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
> > THE INSIDERS : METALHEADZ : UK
> > Lava 859 N. Damen
> > 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colo=
rado
> >
> > [debated this one for a bit, dunno how MW colorado is?]
> > Tribe 23 presents
> > Definition August 27, 2005
> > at the Sherman St. Events Cntr
> > in Denver, Colorado
> >
> > Featuring:
> > a special headliner tba shortly
> > The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) o=
n
> > 6 decks
> > Woody Mcbride-live
> > K-Alexi
> > Osheen
> > Chad Mindrive
> > Jethrox
> > Matter-live
> > Micheal Hahn
> > Time Slips By-live
> >
> > Locals include
> > Little Mike, Beekay, Nitro, Dynomite D, Dj Dragon, Charlie Koval, Cause=
,
> > Sound Bionics-live, jackalope, Argon Bubble-live, redspecter-live,
> > theory, lotrack, dong chi, dis=3Dco!, waverunner, espu, phage, buddha b=
omb
> >
> > Sound will be the legendary 'Wall of Bass', visuals in all for
> > rooms.....lasers?--(you'll have to check it out)
> > 18+ admittance/21+ can drink with id
> > This party will take place in a grand ballroom with four rooms......
> > There will be activities the night before, so come for the weekend.
> >
> > please visit www.tribe23.com for the latest updates
> > call the infoline for out of state ticket reservations
> > there's only 2000 tickets..... so buy early!
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chi=
cago
> >
> > UPCOMING EVENT // 08.26.05-08.28.05 -- "Dreamfields"
> >
> > Audiognomes in association with The Chilluminati present "Dreamfields"
> > -- Consciousness cultivation through psychedelic sights and sounds.
> >
> > Harvest your mind.
> >
> > Join us at a private rural location in Beloit, WI for a CAMPOUT
> > mini-festival of psychedelic trance, intelligent dance and downtempo.
> > Music begins at 10 PM Friday, August 26th and ends at noon on Sunday,
> > August 28th, RAIN OR SHINE.
> > CAMPING commences at 7 PM Friday.
> >
> > indoor & outdoor areas of sound via NUCLEAR SUBS
> >
> > Special LIVE performance by :
> > JIRAH
> > Tim McCAll, known in the global trance community as Jirah, was born in
> > the southern United States and has released tracks on many prominent
> > psy labels including USTA, Dragonfly, Synergetic, Deja Vu, Vaporvent,
> > Aleph Zero, Harmonia, Organic and Spliff. This will be Jirah's FINAL
> > performance before withdrawing from the psy scene.
> > http://www.jirah.com
> >
> > Get the first official vinyl pressing
> > as well as limited edition, numbered & signed
> > vinyl produced by Jirah @
> > http://www.psymbolic.com/shop/
> >
> > DJs:
> >
> > D.N.A. (Dan Efex)
> > Nepol Records, Chicago, IL
> > http://www.danefex.com
> > Dan Efex, a long time player in the trance scene, comes back to us
> > once again ready to deliver a heavy dosage of psychedelic trance upon
> > all those who stand before him.
> > JETO
> > Divine Balance Records, Los Angeles, CA
> > S.O.T.
> > TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
> > SCORPIO
> > Zodiac Productions, Chicago, IL
> > KAISER SOZE
> > PTLF / 37H3R, Milwaukee, WI
> > DERBY
> > TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
> > DJ STORM
> > PTLF, Milwaukee, WI
> > SHAI
> > Divine Balance Records, Chicago, IL
> > UNDERFOOT
> > Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> > TOKI
> > Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> > NASCENT
> > Audiognomes, New York, NY
> > GEAL
> > Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> > DJ ROBYO
> > Audiognomes, Rockford, IL
> > GENE STEALER
> > The Hive Mind, Kalamazoo, MI
> > SCREENDOOR
> > Niche, Milwuakee, WI
> > PSYGOMIN
> > Appleton, WI
> > PSILOPSYBEN
> > Madison, WI
> >
> >
> > Interactive Projected Visuals by
> > PSYMBOLIC VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
> > http://www.psymbolic.com
> > Internationally recognized visual artists
> > that have recently relocated to Chicago from Texas.
> > Their theme orientated visuals are composed of customized
> > video loops, in which they personally shoot, edit & effect.
> > They use exclusively programmed realtime visual software
> > & hardware to synch their video loops, camera inputs & effects
> > to the beat of the live music.
> >
> > Projected Visuals by
> > THE PAKA PAKA LIGHTSHOW
> > The Paka Paka Lightshow consists of the father & son team Jerry and
> > Reuben Fortier and long time collaborator Dale Kaminski. In 1968,
> > Fortier founded the Eyes of Khamphalous Lightshow in Madison, WI. As
> > the visuals behind the Broadway production of "Warp" and the resident
> > lightshow for the Melkweg and Paradiso clubs in Amsterdam from 1969 to
> > 1972, the Khamphalous Lightshow created a unique psychedlic visual
> > experience. The Paka Paka Lightshow brings this experience into the
> > digital age.
> >
> > Refreshments by PSYCHAI
> >
> > To bring :
> > -tent
> > -sleeping bag
> > -flashlight
> > -food/water
> > -NO ALCOHOL
> >
> > RSVP minimum donation : $25 (INSANELY LOW PRICE-- feel free to donate
> > more if able)
> > At the door : $30*
> >
> > RSVP locations :
> > http://www.chilluminati.org
> > http://www.audiognomes.com
> > http://www.psymbolic.com
> >
> > *Guests are strongly advised to RSVP as event WILL sell out. 250 max
> > capacity! Door admission not guaranteed. PRE-REGISTRATION GUARANTEES
> > ENTRANCE!
> >
> > Parking limited. $5 charge per vehicle. Please carpool.
> > 18+ unless accompanied by parent
> > kids under 13 - free w/ parent
> > $25 vendor fee
> > entertainment subject to change
> > Come help us celebrate Toki's birthday!
> >
> > Directions and more info pending!
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Det=
roit
> >
> > VENUES: 7 Year Anniversary - Masonic Temple Fountain Ballroom
> > ------------ MC2:Electronic BBQ
> >
> > richie hawtin
> > luciano
> > monolake
> > + more TBA
> >
> > .... more info soon
> >
> > PRESALES: available online at paxahau.com or in 3D at neptune and
> > recordtime ferndale beginning friday august 12th
> > AGE: 18+
> >
> > QUESTIONS / CONCERNS connect@paxahau.com
> > http://paxahau.com/
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09=
-xx-paxahau_7_year_anniv.gif">
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chi=
cago
> >
> > WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21
> > BassByThePound presents
> > THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
> > STAKKA : CARGO : NEW YORK
> > Lava 859 N. Damen
> > 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chi=
cago
> >
> > GATE 9 PRODUCTIONS, IRRATIONAL MUZIKWERX, DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS CARTEL
> > presents:
> >
> > MOTION
> > 9.17.2005 - Logan Square Auditorium
> > CHICAGO, ILLI-fucking-NOIS
> >
> > The acts.......and their schedule.......
> > _________________________ _________________________ __________________
> > ROOM.1
> >
> > MATHEMATIX (aka MC MTHMTX) and DREA
> > Etc. TECHNOlogies/Lumia/Proper Productions
> > Tampa, FL
> > Etctechno.com
> >
> > 1AM . 3AM
> >
> > Don't miss this exclusive chance to witness the innovative performance
> > by Equation as The "Equation 2005 Tour" makes a stop here in Chicago.
> > The duo.s performance will feature MC MTHMTX (Theatrical performer and
> > vocalist), as he will be incorporating his creative stage show and wild
> > style of visually stimulating costumes and digitally enhanced vocals
> > with real time synth filtered effects. All while the lovely Drea pumps
> > out a high energy mix of multi-genre Progressive Electronic Dance
> > Music.. Truly talented with her programming skills, and a wicked ear fo=
r
> > music that reflects directly upon her track selection. Drea will take
> > you on an aural journey through the music aspect of the show. This
> > talented Diva sets the tempo and never lets up as the set progresses to
> > extreme levels. She and Math will show you how they put a whole new
> > meaning to a DJ/MC set! The Equation experience will create a dance
> > filled frenzy that is sure to rock the joint and set your body in
> > MOTION. With Drea in the mix and the performance by MC MTHMTX you.ll be
> > sure to be blown away with an overwhelming display of vocal sound
> > effects, video projections, and a cast of local talented dancers who
> > will participate in the stage show., Equation will create a powerful
> > atmosphere that will leave you wanting more!! The 2005 tour performance
> > promises to give a taste of what to expect from "EQUATION" as they fine
> > tune the upcoming LIVE PA act!!! Immediately following the Equation sho=
w
> > catch the hard driving DJ set of DJ MathematiX as he will be droppin.
> > the dark styles of Drum .n. Bass and Progressive NuSkool Breaks. Armed
> > with an arsenal of exclusive dubs and some of his original tracks.
> >
> > *****FREE GIVEAWAYS!!!!!*****during the Equation performance from
> > Equation and Tour sponsors; System Recordings, Rinse Mag and more!!
> >
> > ADAM X
> > Sonic Groove
> > NYC
> > Techno
> > djadamx.com
> >
> > 12AM . 1AM
> >
> > In his DJ performances and track production, Adam X's sound is best
> > described as hard, EBM and industrial inspired dance-floor techno &
> > electro. Adam X penetrates, educates and infuses his audience with a
> > real energy, often drawing from dark & sexual themes, through the
> > mastery of the electronic music medium he has gained from a prolific
> > career. Adam got started in NYC in the early '90s -an era of a
> > burgeoning grass-roots music and club culture, which he himself had
> > contributed to. In his career, Adam X has performed alongside artists
> > such as Aphex Twin, Surgeon & Joey Beltram, and lately, the likes of
> > Terence Fixmer/Douglas Mccarthy and Andrew Weatherall. He's performed a=
t
> > thousands of events, raves and club nights globally including Mayday,
> > Love Parade, DEMF, and Fabric. Adam's list of solo commercial releases
> > and collaborative projects on CD and vinyl is equally impressive. A few
> > of the many labels Adam has released music under are Wax Trax-TVT
> > (Mastermix Series Vol. 2), Instinct Records (Adam X 'On the 1 and 2'),
> > Oliver Chesler's Things To Come Label (Sensory Deprivation) and many
> > projects on his own aforementioned label, Sonic Groove. Adam currently
> > has a chameleonic approach to his artistry, playing at Industrial event=
s
> > like Maschinenfest in Germany, to playing famous techno clubs the next
> > night like Rex Club in Paris. His own productions also combine the two
> > genres, containing elements of both in a single track.
> >
> >
> > SHUGGA b2b EVA(aka Evil Bunnie)
> > BOTZ/Native-Instruments/Temple of Boom/H2O/GrapeyBaby
> > Los Angeles, CA
> >
> > 11PM . 12AM
> >
> > Raized on the East, reprezentin' the West, These Bitchez on Da Switchez
> > are a combination like no other! No need for Drugz here when Shuggaz
> > nastee NuSkool & Eva's evil electro tear through the speakerz and and
> > shred yo brain like nothing you've ever experienced! Shuggaz been
> > tearing it up worldwide for 8 years with Caffeine, Funk Dawg, Satellite
> > NY, now Native, and Temple of Boom and Eva's ripping up the underground
> > scene in LA like no other! Get ready to be rocked by the two of the
> > sickest Breakz djs you will ever know! YOU WERE WARNED!
> >
> > Psycho The Irrational Kidd
> > Irrational Mob Mentality/Gold Coast Multimedia/Funkilinium
> > Flint, MI
> >
> > 10PM . 11PM
> >
> > Expect the unexpected. One of the most wildly unpredictable DJs that yo=
u
> > will ever lay your eyes and ears upon. Psyc, a 24-year veteran of the
> > turntables (and former Midwest scratch champ), recently gave up staying
> > in one area because he believes that "if it's on vinyl, it's fair game"=
.
> > He also plays with FUNKILINIUM, a 6-piece powerhouse funk band that has
> > been getting a lot of attention from the majors lately. Be there to
> > witness why Psycho has been called "the missing link between Jeff Mills
> > and the Tazmanian Devil".
> >
> > Naughtya
> > Weekend Warriors
> > Grand Rapids, MI
> >
> > 9PM . 10PM
> >
> > Nicknamed "The Booty Queen," Naughtya mixes the nastiest tracks, rangin=
g
> > from Ghetto House, Ghetto Tech, Booty, to Old School Miami Bass...All
> > served up naughty, BUTT nice.
> >
> >
> >
> > ROOM.2
> >
> > Nico Blue
> > 616 - JUNGLE Dark Heart Republic
> > Jenison, MI
> >
> > 2AM . 3AM
> >
> > Nico has been spinning drum-and-bass for around 3 years in Grand Rapids=
,
> > MI. From dancy to dark, soft to hard, he is known for his impressive
> > track selection and guaranteed to have you moving all night long. Bring
> > your body and he'll bring the bass.
> >
> > John Johr
> > Cave DJs/Input<>Output | Detroit, MI | Techno
> >
> > 1AM . 2AM
> >
> > This cat comes with the heart of a lion, the track selection of a
> > supreme master and the mixing techniques that only Detroit can bring.
> > John has been putting together one of the more premier nights for
> > electronic music in Detroit for some time now (input<>output), and is
> > now beginning to spread his wings outside of the D. Prepare to have you=
r
> > head bashed in.
> >
> > Ryan H. and CL8NC
> > Division Underground
> > Bangin House/Tag Team Collaboration
> > Minnesota
> >
> > 12AM . 1AM
> >
> > Straight from the Minneapolis massive, these tactical dechnicions
> > provide a synergy between the electronic weaponry and the dance floor
> > you don't want to miss.Together, these 2 D's will bring an arsenal of
> > wax fresh of the press, molded with the Underground's 12" House
> > classics.
> >
> > Spektrum
> > (hard/dark/aggressive drum & bass, Kalamazoo, MI)
> >
> > 11PM . 12AM
> >
> > This turntable assassin was born with a wide variety of skill and
> > precision. His name is the epitome of his raw style which encompasses
> > the full spectrum of drum & bass music, but you really should leave you=
r
> > silver bullets at home, cause this guy is definitely known for bringing
> > it dark enough for the vampires...
> >
> >
> > Dj Roll
> > Race of Reaction/True Family Unit /C9 Records
> > - DnB, Hip Hop, Trip Hop
> > Champaign, IL
> >
> > 10PM . 11PM
> >
> > Roll has been producing for 6 years, blending a steady mix of hip hop
> > jungle and scratching About a year ago roll finally decided to take up
> > the 1200's, deeming jungle as his weapon of choice. Having played along
> > side the likes of Danny the Wild Child, True Family Unit, as well as
> > fellow Race of Reaction peers, the last year has been a bombshell of
> > productivity. Boasting a wide variety of tracks and one (of many) vinyl
> > releases his sound will leave you, rollin, rollin.
> >
> > Max Jerome
> > Irrational Mob Mentality | UKG/2step
> > Flint, MI
> >
> > 9PM . 10PM
> >
> > Looks can be decieving. Max Jerome doesn't look the part of the funky
> > get-down artist that rocks all points of UK Garage, but let him loose o=
n
> > the decks......and watch the bassbins react. He's been studying the
> > Garage scene since 1997, and is a walking encyclopedia of all things
> > UKG. Come witness the sound of the Bwoi them call Max J.....and see why
> > he's top choice.....
> >
> > _________________________ _________________________ ________________
> >
> > A limited amount of presales will be available @
> >
> > Wax Addict
> > 1014 N. Ashland
> > Chicago, IL
> > 773.772.9930
> >
> > As well as, through Gate9Productions...tickets@gate9productions.com for
> > more info.
> >
> > beginning Apr.25.2005
> >
> > Presales are $15
> >
> > It will $20 ATD all night.
> >
> >
> > Web Support:
> >
> > midwestravers.com
> > gate9productions.com
> > michiganravers.com
> > scenenetworks.com
> > detroitluv.com
> > kindkidz.us
> > mnvibe.com
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09=
-17-motion.front.jpg">
> >
> > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09=
-17-motion.back.jpg">
> >
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chi=
cago
> >
> > 2005.07.08fr
> > Josh Wink
> > Bonobo
> > @ Smartbar
> > 3730 N Clark
> > Chicago, IL
> > 21+
> > 15$ / 10$ before 00:00
> > free admission with first reply via this e-mail only
> > (must include full name)
> >
> > -=3D-=3D-=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> >
> > compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Aug 18 04:13:05 PDT 20=
05.
> >
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Subject: Re: [mw] MW.RAVES.Calendar.08.18.05

Thats no guarantee Terry will actually show.  If he does show, I'll
just have to console myself with the paxahau party the next weekend.

Seriously though someone should record that set (if it happens).

On 8/18/05, Mike Davis <mikedavis000@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, it is for real.   =3D)   The people doing the gig are supposedly on
> the up and up (according to my friends here).   I bought my pre sale
> tickets today ;)
>=20
> In case you all didn't know.  I relocated to Denver.
>=20
> -mike
>=20
> On 8/18/05, Tad Dicks <tad604@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Um..
> >
> > The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) o=
n
> > 6 decks
> >
> > is that for real?  that could be freaking cool... but  damn thats
> > long trip for something I wouldn't count on happening.
> >
> > -Tad
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18 Aug 2005 11:13:05 -0000, trout@hyperreal.org <trout@hyperreal.org=
> wrote:
> > > -=3D<O>=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
----=3D<O>=3D-
> > >                    The MIDWEST RAVES Calendar MK whatever
> > >                           Maintained by Trout Soup
> > > -=3D<O>=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Originating from Cuyahoga Falls, OH, a place not really in the midwes=
t,
> > > so deal with it!
> > >
> > > * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permissi=
on *
> > >
> > > I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as =
i'm
> > > mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO=
*
> > > happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me kno=
w!
> > >
> > > The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for t=
he
> > > latest information.
> > > http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/
> > > or http://mw-raves/calendar/
> > > set your bookmarks appropriately  :)
> > >
> > > Submissions, flames, threats, and your credit card numbers to:
> > >
> > >    trout@hyperreal.org
> > >
> > > please don't email me asking for more info.  what is listed here is w=
hat i
> > > have been given.  if an infoline doesn't work, dunno what to say.
> > >
> > > if an event is found to have a bad email address or infoline, they wi=
ll be
> > > removed, there MUST be a way to contact you about the event, by raver=
s and
> > > other promoters.
> > >
> > > -=3D<O>=3D-----------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       C=
hicago
> > > Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     C=
hicago
> > > Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfie=
ld, MO
> > > Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           C=
hicago
> > > Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           C=
hicago
> > > Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St.=
 Louis
> > > Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      O=
shkosh
> > > Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     C=
hicago
> > > Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        C=
hicago
> > > Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Co=
lorado
> > > Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        C=
hicago
> > > Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    D=
etroit
> > > Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        C=
hicago
> > > Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           C=
hicago
> > > Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         C=
hicago
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       C=
hicago
> > >
> > > 2005.08.17we 22:00-04:00 Sommer Etikett
> > > Hieroglyphic Being (live - Ghostly International, 6277, Klang Elektro=
nk,
> > > Playhouse)
> > > Meioticsoundsystemdjz (Marc vs Matthew)
> > > Sassmouth (NBFC, Bang)
> > > @ Betty's Blue Star Lounge
> > > 1600 W Grand
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 21+
> > > 0$
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     C=
hicago
> > >
> > > 2005.08.18th A Hot Hooray Release Party
> > > Oly (live)
> > > Kate Simko (live)
> > > Atomly (live)
> > > m50
> > > @ Sonotheque
> > > 1444 W Chicago
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 21+
> > > 5$
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfie=
ld, MO
> > >
> > > 8.19.05
> > > The Blue Room
> > > Springfield, Missouri
> > >
> > >
> > > An intimate evening with:
> > >
> > > Kid Kryptic, Robe Flax, Randy Soeung vs. Jimmy C. and Endelic
> > >
> > >
> > > flyer:
> > > http://www.aerosault.com/albums/Fayetteville/aug_19_flyer.sized.jpg
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-=
08-19-blue_room.jpg">
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           C=
hicago
> > >
> > > 2005.08.19fr
> > > Scan 7 (live - Detroit - Underground Resistance)
> > > Monologic (live - Blazaebla)
> > > Apocalpyse
> > > Steve Christian
> > > Hugo Moya
> > > Lee Chameleon
> > > @ Vision
> > > 640 N Dearborn
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 21+
> > > 10$
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           C=
hicago
> > >
> > > August 19, 2005 CONGRESS THEATRE..
> > >
> > > PRECIOUS PORKCHOPS PRESENT:
> > > SPICE ..a night of revolutionary sounds..
> > >
> > > just a little something different this time Chicago!!
> > >
> > > With Special Performances By:
> > >
> > > Belladonnakillz :Toronto,Ontario Canada dross:tik, kniteforce,
> > > tigerbeat6, industrial strength
> > > Formed in 2002, belladonnakillz has been catching attention since the
> > > very start. Blending great songwriting with killer electronic
> > > production and live show that rocks, nine inch nails and prodigy woul=
d
> > > be proud of this act. With the debut album, Perverted & Proud release=
d
> > > on dross:tik records and several vinyl singles arriving on the famous
> > > kniteforce label, not including the remix and production work done fo=
r
> > > tigerbeat6 and industrial strength records, and a massive licensing d=
eal
> > > with 3rd movement in Holland, this is a hot band with hits on their
> > > hands. www.belladonnakillz.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Phallus Uber Alles (in their font.. which i will send to you just in
> > > case..) Detroit, Michigan Fatal Recordings
> > >
> > > Phallus ?ber Alles is the uterus of Slave Indvstries, a collective of
> > > musicians and activists. Diesel, PUA's lead vocalist and founder has =
a
> > > tendency to engage in "atypical" female behavior, from shaving her ha=
ir
> > > into a mohawk to insisting on doing anything men can do. The name
> > > "Phallus ?ber Alles" is a statement on the world today, the continuin=
g
> > > persistence of male-dominated hierarchies in nearly every industry an=
d
> > > creative venue alike. On the strength of their 4-song demo, PUA was
> > > asked by Hanin Elias [former member of Atari Teenage Riot and founder=
 of
> > > Fatal Recordings] to release their hard-hitting debut album, "Iron
> > > Woman." www.phallusuberalles.net
> > >
> > > Danny the Wild Child Chicago, IL Canvas Recordings, Strickly Hype,Sur=
ge
> > > Recordings ..Chicago Junglist!!!
> > >
> > > Dj Decay Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
> > >
> > > Mr. Bobby and Rayaline of the Androide Cult Chicago, IL
> > >
> > > Surreality Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
> > >
> > > Mauser aka Miles Christian Chicago, IL Skulljakkx Recordings
> > >
> > > White Owl VS.. Zebo Chicago, IL
> > >
> > > @ Congress Theatre..
> > > . $10
> > > .. 18 and Up Must Have ID.. 9PM-4AM..
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St.=
 Louis
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-2=
0-flashbackvibes.front.png">
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-2=
0-flashbackvibes.back.png">
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      O=
shkosh
> > >
> > > GarbageGame Kids
> > > August 20th
> > > Menomonee Park
> > > Oshkosh, WI.
> > > Noon - 9pm
> > > All Ages!
> > > Free!
> > >
> > > Kyle Geiger
> > > Indiana - Techno
> > > www.KyleGeiger.com
> > >
> > > Michael Wenz
> > > Milwaukee - Techno
> > > www.RavingLunatiks.com
> > >
> > > Tinhead
> > > Madison - Techno
> > > www.DJTinhead.com
> > >
> > > Imaginary Friend
> > > Stevens Point - Turntablist Magic
> > > Disko Creeps
> > >
> > > Wobbler & Filament
> > > Appleton - Techno
> > > www.GarbageGame.com
> > >
> > > Mr. Crispy
> > > Appleton - Drum n Bass Stomping & Bleep Step
> > > www.GarbageGame.com
> > >
> > > Serby
> > > Stevens Point - House
> > > www.StudioGangstas.net
> > >
> > > Sir Fice & Aeon
> > > Milwaukee - Techno
> > > www.AudioTribe.net
> > >
> > > Alan!
> > > Madison - Ambient Broken Polka LIVE!
> > > Joint Effort
> > >
> > > Milhouse
> > > Madison - Funk n Hop
> > > Turtle Time
> > >
> > > DJ Orlow
> > > Milwaukee - STYLE
> > > www.AudioTribe.net
> > >
> > > Lukewarm
> > > Milwaukee - Deep House
> > > Wisco Jazz Unit
> > >
> > > Kruser
> > > Green Bay - Drum n Bass
> > > www.LockedDownProductions.com
> > >
> > > MLE
> > > Fox Cities - Drum n Bass
> > > One Percenters
> > >
> > > 2nd Stage by Outlawed Productions!!
> > >
> > > BYOB - No Glass Containers!
> > >
> > > $1 raffle with merchandise from Garbage Pail Kids, GarbageGame, and
> > > Shure! Lots of prizes including shirts, record bags, and GPK cards (o=
ld
> > > and new)!
> > >
> > > home pages for the party are www.garbagegame.com and
> > > www.outlawedproductions.com
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-2=
0-garbagegame_kids.gif">
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     C=
hicago
> > >
> > > 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
> > > DJ Funk vs Atomly
> > > Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
> > > @ Tini Martini
> > > 2169 N Milwaukee
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 21+
> > > ?$
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        C=
hicago
> > >
> > > WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24
> > > BassByThePound presents
> > > THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
> > > THE INSIDERS : METALHEADZ : UK
> > > Lava 859 N. Damen
> > > 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Co=
lorado
> > >
> > > [debated this one for a bit, dunno how MW colorado is?]
> > > Tribe 23 presents
> > > Definition August 27, 2005
> > > at the Sherman St. Events Cntr
> > > in Denver, Colorado
> > >
> > > Featuring:
> > > a special headliner tba shortly
> > > The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp)=
 on
> > > 6 decks
> > > Woody Mcbride-live
> > > K-Alexi
> > > Osheen
> > > Chad Mindrive
> > > Jethrox
> > > Matter-live
> > > Micheal Hahn
> > > Time Slips By-live
> > >
> > > Locals include
> > > Little Mike, Beekay, Nitro, Dynomite D, Dj Dragon, Charlie Koval, Cau=
se,
> > > Sound Bionics-live, jackalope, Argon Bubble-live, redspecter-live,
> > > theory, lotrack, dong chi, dis=3Dco!, waverunner, espu, phage, buddha=
 bomb
> > >
> > > Sound will be the legendary 'Wall of Bass', visuals in all for
> > > rooms.....lasers?--(you'll have to check it out)
> > > 18+ admittance/21+ can drink with id
> > > This party will take place in a grand ballroom with four rooms......
> > > There will be activities the night before, so come for the weekend.
> > >
> > > please visit www.tribe23.com for the latest updates
> > > call the infoline for out of state ticket reservations
> > > there's only 2000 tickets..... so buy early!
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        C=
hicago
> > >
> > > UPCOMING EVENT // 08.26.05-08.28.05 -- "Dreamfields"
> > >
> > > Audiognomes in association with The Chilluminati present "Dreamfields=
"
> > > -- Consciousness cultivation through psychedelic sights and sounds.
> > >
> > > Harvest your mind.
> > >
> > > Join us at a private rural location in Beloit, WI for a CAMPOUT
> > > mini-festival of psychedelic trance, intelligent dance and downtempo.
> > > Music begins at 10 PM Friday, August 26th and ends at noon on Sunday,
> > > August 28th, RAIN OR SHINE.
> > > CAMPING commences at 7 PM Friday.
> > >
> > > indoor & outdoor areas of sound via NUCLEAR SUBS
> > >
> > > Special LIVE performance by :
> > > JIRAH
> > > Tim McCAll, known in the global trance community as Jirah, was born i=
n
> > > the southern United States and has released tracks on many prominent
> > > psy labels including USTA, Dragonfly, Synergetic, Deja Vu, Vaporvent,
> > > Aleph Zero, Harmonia, Organic and Spliff. This will be Jirah's FINAL
> > > performance before withdrawing from the psy scene.
> > > http://www.jirah.com
> > >
> > > Get the first official vinyl pressing
> > > as well as limited edition, numbered & signed
> > > vinyl produced by Jirah @
> > > http://www.psymbolic.com/shop/
> > >
> > > DJs:
> > >
> > > D.N.A. (Dan Efex)
> > > Nepol Records, Chicago, IL
> > > http://www.danefex.com
> > > Dan Efex, a long time player in the trance scene, comes back to us
> > > once again ready to deliver a heavy dosage of psychedelic trance upon
> > > all those who stand before him.
> > > JETO
> > > Divine Balance Records, Los Angeles, CA
> > > S.O.T.
> > > TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
> > > SCORPIO
> > > Zodiac Productions, Chicago, IL
> > > KAISER SOZE
> > > PTLF / 37H3R, Milwaukee, WI
> > > DERBY
> > > TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
> > > DJ STORM
> > > PTLF, Milwaukee, WI
> > > SHAI
> > > Divine Balance Records, Chicago, IL
> > > UNDERFOOT
> > > Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> > > TOKI
> > > Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> > > NASCENT
> > > Audiognomes, New York, NY
> > > GEAL
> > > Audiognomes, Madison, WI
> > > DJ ROBYO
> > > Audiognomes, Rockford, IL
> > > GENE STEALER
> > > The Hive Mind, Kalamazoo, MI
> > > SCREENDOOR
> > > Niche, Milwuakee, WI
> > > PSYGOMIN
> > > Appleton, WI
> > > PSILOPSYBEN
> > > Madison, WI
> > >
> > >
> > > Interactive Projected Visuals by
> > > PSYMBOLIC VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
> > > http://www.psymbolic.com
> > > Internationally recognized visual artists
> > > that have recently relocated to Chicago from Texas.
> > > Their theme orientated visuals are composed of customized
> > > video loops, in which they personally shoot, edit & effect.
> > > They use exclusively programmed realtime visual software
> > > & hardware to synch their video loops, camera inputs & effects
> > > to the beat of the live music.
> > >
> > > Projected Visuals by
> > > THE PAKA PAKA LIGHTSHOW
> > > The Paka Paka Lightshow consists of the father & son team Jerry and
> > > Reuben Fortier and long time collaborator Dale Kaminski. In 1968,
> > > Fortier founded the Eyes of Khamphalous Lightshow in Madison, WI. As
> > > the visuals behind the Broadway production of "Warp" and the resident
> > > lightshow for the Melkweg and Paradiso clubs in Amsterdam from 1969 t=
o
> > > 1972, the Khamphalous Lightshow created a unique psychedlic visual
> > > experience. The Paka Paka Lightshow brings this experience into the
> > > digital age.
> > >
> > > Refreshments by PSYCHAI
> > >
> > > To bring :
> > > -tent
> > > -sleeping bag
> > > -flashlight
> > > -food/water
> > > -NO ALCOHOL
> > >
> > > RSVP minimum donation : $25 (INSANELY LOW PRICE-- feel free to donate
> > > more if able)
> > > At the door : $30*
> > >
> > > RSVP locations :
> > > http://www.chilluminati.org
> > > http://www.audiognomes.com
> > > http://www.psymbolic.com
> > >
> > > *Guests are strongly advised to RSVP as event WILL sell out. 250 max
> > > capacity! Door admission not guaranteed. PRE-REGISTRATION GUARANTEES
> > > ENTRANCE!
> > >
> > > Parking limited. $5 charge per vehicle. Please carpool.
> > > 18+ unless accompanied by parent
> > > kids under 13 - free w/ parent
> > > $25 vendor fee
> > > entertainment subject to change
> > > Come help us celebrate Toki's birthday!
> > >
> > > Directions and more info pending!
> > >
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> > >
> > > Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    D=
etroit
> > >
> > > VENUES: 7 Year Anniversary - Masonic Temple Fountain Ballroom
> > > ------------ MC2:Electronic BBQ
> > >
> > > richie hawtin
> > > luciano
> > > monolake
> > > + more TBA
> > >
> > > .... more info soon
> > >
> > > PRESALES: available online at paxahau.com or in 3D at neptune and
> > > recordtime ferndale beginning friday august 12th
> > > AGE: 18+
> > >
> > > QUESTIONS / CONCERNS connect@paxahau.com
> > > http://paxahau.com/
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-=
09-xx-paxahau_7_year_anniv.gif">
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        C=
hicago
> > >
> > > WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21
> > > BassByThePound presents
> > > THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
> > > STAKKA : CARGO : NEW YORK
> > > Lava 859 N. Damen
> > > 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
> > >
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> > >
> > > Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           C=
hicago
> > >
> > > GATE 9 PRODUCTIONS, IRRATIONAL MUZIKWERX, DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS CARTEL
> > > presents:
> > >
> > > MOTION
> > > 9.17.2005 - Logan Square Auditorium
> > > CHICAGO, ILLI-fucking-NOIS
> > >
> > > The acts.......and their schedule.......
> > > _________________________ _________________________ _________________=
_
> > > ROOM.1
> > >
> > > MATHEMATIX (aka MC MTHMTX) and DREA
> > > Etc. TECHNOlogies/Lumia/Proper Productions
> > > Tampa, FL
> > > Etctechno.com
> > >
> > > 1AM . 3AM
> > >
> > > Don't miss this exclusive chance to witness the innovative performanc=
e
> > > by Equation as The "Equation 2005 Tour" makes a stop here in Chicago.
> > > The duo.s performance will feature MC MTHMTX (Theatrical performer an=
d
> > > vocalist), as he will be incorporating his creative stage show and wi=
ld
> > > style of visually stimulating costumes and digitally enhanced vocals
> > > with real time synth filtered effects. All while the lovely Drea pump=
s
> > > out a high energy mix of multi-genre Progressive Electronic Dance
> > > Music.. Truly talented with her programming skills, and a wicked ear =
for
> > > music that reflects directly upon her track selection. Drea will take
> > > you on an aural journey through the music aspect of the show. This
> > > talented Diva sets the tempo and never lets up as the set progresses =
to
> > > extreme levels. She and Math will show you how they put a whole new
> > > meaning to a DJ/MC set! The Equation experience will create a dance
> > > filled frenzy that is sure to rock the joint and set your body in
> > > MOTION. With Drea in the mix and the performance by MC MTHMTX you.ll =
be
> > > sure to be blown away with an overwhelming display of vocal sound
> > > effects, video projections, and a cast of local talented dancers who
> > > will participate in the stage show., Equation will create a powerful
> > > atmosphere that will leave you wanting more!! The 2005 tour performan=
ce
> > > promises to give a taste of what to expect from "EQUATION" as they fi=
ne
> > > tune the upcoming LIVE PA act!!! Immediately following the Equation s=
how
> > > catch the hard driving DJ set of DJ MathematiX as he will be droppin.
> > > the dark styles of Drum .n. Bass and Progressive NuSkool Breaks. Arme=
d
> > > with an arsenal of exclusive dubs and some of his original tracks.
> > >
> > > *****FREE GIVEAWAYS!!!!!*****during the Equation performance from
> > > Equation and Tour sponsors; System Recordings, Rinse Mag and more!!
> > >
> > > ADAM X
> > > Sonic Groove
> > > NYC
> > > Techno
> > > djadamx.com
> > >
> > > 12AM . 1AM
> > >
> > > In his DJ performances and track production, Adam X's sound is best
> > > described as hard, EBM and industrial inspired dance-floor techno &
> > > electro. Adam X penetrates, educates and infuses his audience with a
> > > real energy, often drawing from dark & sexual themes, through the
> > > mastery of the electronic music medium he has gained from a prolific
> > > career. Adam got started in NYC in the early '90s -an era of a
> > > burgeoning grass-roots music and club culture, which he himself had
> > > contributed to. In his career, Adam X has performed alongside artists
> > > such as Aphex Twin, Surgeon & Joey Beltram, and lately, the likes of
> > > Terence Fixmer/Douglas Mccarthy and Andrew Weatherall. He's performed=
 at
> > > thousands of events, raves and club nights globally including Mayday,
> > > Love Parade, DEMF, and Fabric. Adam's list of solo commercial release=
s
> > > and collaborative projects on CD and vinyl is equally impressive. A f=
ew
> > > of the many labels Adam has released music under are Wax Trax-TVT
> > > (Mastermix Series Vol. 2), Instinct Records (Adam X 'On the 1 and 2')=
,
> > > Oliver Chesler's Things To Come Label (Sensory Deprivation) and many
> > > projects on his own aforementioned label, Sonic Groove. Adam currentl=
y
> > > has a chameleonic approach to his artistry, playing at Industrial eve=
nts
> > > like Maschinenfest in Germany, to playing famous techno clubs the nex=
t
> > > night like Rex Club in Paris. His own productions also combine the tw=
o
> > > genres, containing elements of both in a single track.
> > >
> > >
> > > SHUGGA b2b EVA(aka Evil Bunnie)
> > > BOTZ/Native-Instruments/Temple of Boom/H2O/GrapeyBaby
> > > Los Angeles, CA
> > >
> > > 11PM . 12AM
> > >
> > > Raized on the East, reprezentin' the West, These Bitchez on Da Switch=
ez
> > > are a combination like no other! No need for Drugz here when Shuggaz
> > > nastee NuSkool & Eva's evil electro tear through the speakerz and and
> > > shred yo brain like nothing you've ever experienced! Shuggaz been
> > > tearing it up worldwide for 8 years with Caffeine, Funk Dawg, Satelli=
te
> > > NY, now Native, and Temple of Boom and Eva's ripping up the undergrou=
nd
> > > scene in LA like no other! Get ready to be rocked by the two of the
> > > sickest Breakz djs you will ever know! YOU WERE WARNED!
> > >
> > > Psycho The Irrational Kidd
> > > Irrational Mob Mentality/Gold Coast Multimedia/Funkilinium
> > > Flint, MI
> > >
> > > 10PM . 11PM
> > >
> > > Expect the unexpected. One of the most wildly unpredictable DJs that =
you
> > > will ever lay your eyes and ears upon. Psyc, a 24-year veteran of the
> > > turntables (and former Midwest scratch champ), recently gave up stayi=
ng
> > > in one area because he believes that "if it's on vinyl, it's fair gam=
e".
> > > He also plays with FUNKILINIUM, a 6-piece powerhouse funk band that h=
as
> > > been getting a lot of attention from the majors lately. Be there to
> > > witness why Psycho has been called "the missing link between Jeff Mil=
ls
> > > and the Tazmanian Devil".
> > >
> > > Naughtya
> > > Weekend Warriors
> > > Grand Rapids, MI
> > >
> > > 9PM . 10PM
> > >
> > > Nicknamed "The Booty Queen," Naughtya mixes the nastiest tracks, rang=
ing
> > > from Ghetto House, Ghetto Tech, Booty, to Old School Miami Bass...All
> > > served up naughty, BUTT nice.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ROOM.2
> > >
> > > Nico Blue
> > > 616 - JUNGLE Dark Heart Republic
> > > Jenison, MI
> > >
> > > 2AM . 3AM
> > >
> > > Nico has been spinning drum-and-bass for around 3 years in Grand Rapi=
ds,
> > > MI. From dancy to dark, soft to hard, he is known for his impressive
> > > track selection and guaranteed to have you moving all night long. Bri=
ng
> > > your body and he'll bring the bass.
> > >
> > > John Johr
> > > Cave DJs/Input<>Output | Detroit, MI | Techno
> > >
> > > 1AM . 2AM
> > >
> > > This cat comes with the heart of a lion, the track selection of a
> > > supreme master and the mixing techniques that only Detroit can bring.
> > > John has been putting together one of the more premier nights for
> > > electronic music in Detroit for some time now (input<>output), and is
> > > now beginning to spread his wings outside of the D. Prepare to have y=
our
> > > head bashed in.
> > >
> > > Ryan H. and CL8NC
> > > Division Underground
> > > Bangin House/Tag Team Collaboration
> > > Minnesota
> > >
> > > 12AM . 1AM
> > >
> > > Straight from the Minneapolis massive, these tactical dechnicions
> > > provide a synergy between the electronic weaponry and the dance floor
> > > you don't want to miss.Together, these 2 D's will bring an arsenal of
> > > wax fresh of the press, molded with the Underground's 12" House
> > > classics.
> > >
> > > Spektrum
> > > (hard/dark/aggressive drum & bass, Kalamazoo, MI)
> > >
> > > 11PM . 12AM
> > >
> > > This turntable assassin was born with a wide variety of skill and
> > > precision. His name is the epitome of his raw style which encompasses
> > > the full spectrum of drum & bass music, but you really should leave y=
our
> > > silver bullets at home, cause this guy is definitely known for bringi=
ng
> > > it dark enough for the vampires...
> > >
> > >
> > > Dj Roll
> > > Race of Reaction/True Family Unit /C9 Records
> > > - DnB, Hip Hop, Trip Hop
> > > Champaign, IL
> > >
> > > 10PM . 11PM
> > >
> > > Roll has been producing for 6 years, blending a steady mix of hip hop
> > > jungle and scratching About a year ago roll finally decided to take u=
p
> > > the 1200's, deeming jungle as his weapon of choice. Having played alo=
ng
> > > side the likes of Danny the Wild Child, True Family Unit, as well as
> > > fellow Race of Reaction peers, the last year has been a bombshell of
> > > productivity. Boasting a wide variety of tracks and one (of many) vin=
yl
> > > releases his sound will leave you, rollin, rollin.
> > >
> > > Max Jerome
> > > Irrational Mob Mentality | UKG/2step
> > > Flint, MI
> > >
> > > 9PM . 10PM
> > >
> > > Looks can be decieving. Max Jerome doesn't look the part of the funky
> > > get-down artist that rocks all points of UK Garage, but let him loose=
 on
> > > the decks......and watch the bassbins react. He's been studying the
> > > Garage scene since 1997, and is a walking encyclopedia of all things
> > > UKG. Come witness the sound of the Bwoi them call Max J.....and see w=
hy
> > > he's top choice.....
> > >
> > > _________________________ _________________________ ________________
> > >
> > > A limited amount of presales will be available @
> > >
> > > Wax Addict
> > > 1014 N. Ashland
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 773.772.9930
> > >
> > > As well as, through Gate9Productions...tickets@gate9productions.com f=
or
> > > more info.
> > >
> > > beginning Apr.25.2005
> > >
> > > Presales are $15
> > >
> > > It will $20 ATD all night.
> > >
> > >
> > > Web Support:
> > >
> > > midwestravers.com
> > > gate9productions.com
> > > michiganravers.com
> > > scenenetworks.com
> > > detroitluv.com
> > > kindkidz.us
> > > mnvibe.com
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-=
09-17-motion.front.jpg">
> > >
> > > <img src=3D"http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-=
09-17-motion.back.jpg">
> > >
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         C=
hicago
> > >
> > > 2005.07.08fr
> > > Josh Wink
> > > Bonobo
> > > @ Smartbar
> > > 3730 N Clark
> > > Chicago, IL
> > > 21+
> > > 15$ / 10$ before 00:00
> > > free admission with first reply via this e-mail only
> > > (must include full name)
> > >
> > > -=3D-=3D-=3D---------------------------------------------------------=
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> > >
> > > compiled, but not necessarily current, as of Thu Aug 18 04:13:05 PDT =
2005.
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> >
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Subject: Re: [mw] MW.RAVES.Calendar.08.18.05


is terry mullan really still not showing up for gigs???  even _I_ can 
get to work on time these days!

chad

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Tad Dicks wrote:

> Thats no guarantee Terry will actually show.  If he does show, I'll
> just have to console myself with the paxahau party the next weekend.
>
> Seriously though someone should record that set (if it happens).
>
> On 8/18/05, Mike Davis <mikedavis000@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep, it is for real.   =)   The people doing the gig are supposedly on
>> the up and up (according to my friends here).   I bought my pre sale
>> tickets today ;)
>>
>> In case you all didn't know.  I relocated to Denver.
>>
>> -mike
>>
>> On 8/18/05, Tad Dicks <tad604@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Um..
>>>
>>> The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) on
>>> 6 decks
>>>
>>> is that for real?  that could be freaking cool... but  damn thats
>>> long trip for something I wouldn't count on happening.
>>>
>>> -Tad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Aug 2005 11:13:05 -0000, trout@hyperreal.org <trout@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>>>> -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=-
>>>>                    The MIDWEST RAVES Calendar MK whatever
>>>>                           Maintained by Trout Soup
>>>> -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=-
>>>>
>>>> Originating from Cuyahoga Falls, OH, a place not really in the midwest,
>>>> so deal with it!
>>>>
>>>> * This list is not for redistribution or publication without permission *
>>>>
>>>> I take no responsibility for the accuracy of the information here as i'm
>>>> mostly relaying it from email or typing it in from a flyer (typos *DO*
>>>> happen), but will gladly fix any errors or omissions, just let me know!
>>>>
>>>> The web page is updated throughout the week, you can check that for the
>>>> latest information.
>>>> http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/
>>>> or http://mw-raves/calendar/
>>>> set your bookmarks appropriately  :)
>>>>
>>>> Submissions, flames, threats, and your credit card numbers to:
>>>>
>>>>    trout@hyperreal.org
>>>>
>>>> please don't email me asking for more info.  what is listed here is what i
>>>> have been given.  if an infoline doesn't work, dunno what to say.
>>>>
>>>> if an event is found to have a bad email address or infoline, they will be
>>>> removed, there MUST be a way to contact you about the event, by ravers and
>>>> other promoters.
>>>>
>>>> -=<O>=---------------------------------------------------------------=<O>=-
>>>>
>>>> Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chicago
>>>> Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chicago
>>>> Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield, MO
>>>> Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chicago
>>>> Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chicago
>>>> Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. Louis
>>>> Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Oshkosh
>>>> Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chicago
>>>> Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
>>>> Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colorado
>>>> Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chicago
>>>> Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Detroit
>>>> Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
>>>> Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chicago
>>>> Fri Jul 08                        JOSH WINK                         Chicago
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Wed Aug 17                     SOMMER ETIKETT                       Chicago
>>>>
>>>> 2005.08.17we 22:00-04:00 Sommer Etikett
>>>> Hieroglyphic Being (live - Ghostly International, 6277, Klang Elektronk,
>>>> Playhouse)
>>>> Meioticsoundsystemdjz (Marc vs Matthew)
>>>> Sassmouth (NBFC, Bang)
>>>> @ Betty's Blue Star Lounge
>>>> 1600 W Grand
>>>> Chicago, IL
>>>> 21+
>>>> 0$
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Thu Aug 19                   HOT HOORAY RELEASE                     Chicago
>>>>
>>>> 2005.08.18th A Hot Hooray Release Party
>>>> Oly (live)
>>>> Kate Simko (live)
>>>> Atomly (live)
>>>> m50
>>>> @ Sonotheque
>>>> 1444 W Chicago
>>>> Chicago, IL
>>>> 21+
>>>> 5$
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Fri Aug 19                        BLUE ROOM                 Springfield, MO
>>>>
>>>> 8.19.05
>>>> The Blue Room
>>>> Springfield, Missouri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> An intimate evening with:
>>>>
>>>> Kid Kryptic, Robe Flax, Randy Soeung vs. Jimmy C. and Endelic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> flyer:
>>>> http://www.aerosault.com/albums/Fayetteville/aug_19_flyer.sized.jpg
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-19-blue_room.jpg">
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Fri Aug 19                         SCAN 7                           Chicago
>>>>
>>>> 2005.08.19fr
>>>> Scan 7 (live - Detroit - Underground Resistance)
>>>> Monologic (live - Blazaebla)
>>>> Apocalpyse
>>>> Steve Christian
>>>> Hugo Moya
>>>> Lee Chameleon
>>>> @ Vision
>>>> 640 N Dearborn
>>>> Chicago, IL
>>>> 21+
>>>> 10$
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Fri Aug 19                          SPICE                           Chicago
>>>>
>>>> August 19, 2005 CONGRESS THEATRE..
>>>>
>>>> PRECIOUS PORKCHOPS PRESENT:
>>>> SPICE ..a night of revolutionary sounds..
>>>>
>>>> just a little something different this time Chicago!!
>>>>
>>>> With Special Performances By:
>>>>
>>>> Belladonnakillz :Toronto,Ontario Canada dross:tik, kniteforce,
>>>> tigerbeat6, industrial strength
>>>> Formed in 2002, belladonnakillz has been catching attention since the
>>>> very start. Blending great songwriting with killer electronic
>>>> production and live show that rocks, nine inch nails and prodigy would
>>>> be proud of this act. With the debut album, Perverted & Proud released
>>>> on dross:tik records and several vinyl singles arriving on the famous
>>>> kniteforce label, not including the remix and production work done for
>>>> tigerbeat6 and industrial strength records, and a massive licensing deal
>>>> with 3rd movement in Holland, this is a hot band with hits on their
>>>> hands. www.belladonnakillz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phallus Uber Alles (in their font.. which i will send to you just in
>>>> case..) Detroit, Michigan Fatal Recordings
>>>>
>>>> Phallus ?ber Alles is the uterus of Slave Indvstries, a collective of
>>>> musicians and activists. Diesel, PUA's lead vocalist and founder has a
>>>> tendency to engage in "atypical" female behavior, from shaving her hair
>>>> into a mohawk to insisting on doing anything men can do. The name
>>>> "Phallus ?ber Alles" is a statement on the world today, the continuing
>>>> persistence of male-dominated hierarchies in nearly every industry and
>>>> creative venue alike. On the strength of their 4-song demo, PUA was
>>>> asked by Hanin Elias [former member of Atari Teenage Riot and founder of
>>>> Fatal Recordings] to release their hard-hitting debut album, "Iron
>>>> Woman." www.phallusuberalles.net
>>>>
>>>> Danny the Wild Child Chicago, IL Canvas Recordings, Strickly Hype,Surge
>>>> Recordings ..Chicago Junglist!!!
>>>>
>>>> Dj Decay Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Bobby and Rayaline of the Androide Cult Chicago, IL
>>>>
>>>> Surreality Northwest,Indiana Seven Deadly Sins
>>>>
>>>> Mauser aka Miles Christian Chicago, IL Skulljakkx Recordings
>>>>
>>>> White Owl VS.. Zebo Chicago, IL
>>>>
>>>> @ Congress Theatre..
>>>> . $10
>>>> .. 18 and Up Must Have ID.. 9PM-4AM..
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sat Aug 20                     FLASHBACKVIBES                     St. Louis
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-flashbackvibes.front.png">
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-flashbackvibes.back.png">
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sat Aug 20                    GARBAGEGAME KIDS                      Oshkosh
>>>>
>>>> GarbageGame Kids
>>>> August 20th
>>>> Menomonee Park
>>>> Oshkosh, WI.
>>>> Noon - 9pm
>>>> All Ages!
>>>> Free!
>>>>
>>>> Kyle Geiger
>>>> Indiana - Techno
>>>> www.KyleGeiger.com
>>>>
>>>> Michael Wenz
>>>> Milwaukee - Techno
>>>> www.RavingLunatiks.com
>>>>
>>>> Tinhead
>>>> Madison - Techno
>>>> www.DJTinhead.com
>>>>
>>>> Imaginary Friend
>>>> Stevens Point - Turntablist Magic
>>>> Disko Creeps
>>>>
>>>> Wobbler & Filament
>>>> Appleton - Techno
>>>> www.GarbageGame.com
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Crispy
>>>> Appleton - Drum n Bass Stomping & Bleep Step
>>>> www.GarbageGame.com
>>>>
>>>> Serby
>>>> Stevens Point - House
>>>> www.StudioGangstas.net
>>>>
>>>> Sir Fice & Aeon
>>>> Milwaukee - Techno
>>>> www.AudioTribe.net
>>>>
>>>> Alan!
>>>> Madison - Ambient Broken Polka LIVE!
>>>> Joint Effort
>>>>
>>>> Milhouse
>>>> Madison - Funk n Hop
>>>> Turtle Time
>>>>
>>>> DJ Orlow
>>>> Milwaukee - STYLE
>>>> www.AudioTribe.net
>>>>
>>>> Lukewarm
>>>> Milwaukee - Deep House
>>>> Wisco Jazz Unit
>>>>
>>>> Kruser
>>>> Green Bay - Drum n Bass
>>>> www.LockedDownProductions.com
>>>>
>>>> MLE
>>>> Fox Cities - Drum n Bass
>>>> One Percenters
>>>>
>>>> 2nd Stage by Outlawed Productions!!
>>>>
>>>> BYOB - No Glass Containers!
>>>>
>>>> $1 raffle with merchandise from Garbage Pail Kids, GarbageGame, and
>>>> Shure! Lots of prizes including shirts, record bags, and GPK cards (old
>>>> and new)!
>>>>
>>>> home pages for the party are www.garbagegame.com and
>>>> www.outlawedproductions.com
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-08-20-garbagegame_kids.gif">
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sat Aug 20                    YOUR FORMULA LIFE                     Chicago
>>>>
>>>> 2005.08.20sa 21:00-03:00 Your Formula Life
>>>> DJ Funk vs Atomly
>>>> Derek Plaslaiko vs John Patterson
>>>> @ Tini Martini
>>>> 2169 N Milwaukee
>>>> Chicago, IL
>>>> 21+
>>>> ?$
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Wed Aug 24                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
>>>>
>>>> WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 24
>>>> BassByThePound presents
>>>> THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
>>>> THE INSIDERS : METALHEADZ : UK
>>>> Lava 859 N. Damen
>>>> 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sat Aug 27                       DEFINITION                        Colorado
>>>>
>>>> [debated this one for a bit, dunno how MW colorado is?]
>>>> Tribe 23 presents
>>>> Definition August 27, 2005
>>>> at the Sherman St. Events Cntr
>>>> in Denver, Colorado
>>>>
>>>> Featuring:
>>>> a special headliner tba shortly
>>>> The Midwest Acid Experience (Hyperactive vs. Terry Mullan vs. Dj Esp) on
>>>> 6 decks
>>>> Woody Mcbride-live
>>>> K-Alexi
>>>> Osheen
>>>> Chad Mindrive
>>>> Jethrox
>>>> Matter-live
>>>> Micheal Hahn
>>>> Time Slips By-live
>>>>
>>>> Locals include
>>>> Little Mike, Beekay, Nitro, Dynomite D, Dj Dragon, Charlie Koval, Cause,
>>>> Sound Bionics-live, jackalope, Argon Bubble-live, redspecter-live,
>>>> theory, lotrack, dong chi, dis=co!, waverunner, espu, phage, buddha bomb
>>>>
>>>> Sound will be the legendary 'Wall of Bass', visuals in all for
>>>> rooms.....lasers?--(you'll have to check it out)
>>>> 18+ admittance/21+ can drink with id
>>>> This party will take place in a grand ballroom with four rooms......
>>>> There will be activities the night before, so come for the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> please visit www.tribe23.com for the latest updates
>>>> call the infoline for out of state ticket reservations
>>>> there's only 2000 tickets..... so buy early!
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sat Aug 27                       DREAMFIELDS                        Chicago
>>>>
>>>> UPCOMING EVENT // 08.26.05-08.28.05 -- "Dreamfields"
>>>>
>>>> Audiognomes in association with The Chilluminati present "Dreamfields"
>>>> -- Consciousness cultivation through psychedelic sights and sounds.
>>>>
>>>> Harvest your mind.
>>>>
>>>> Join us at a private rural location in Beloit, WI for a CAMPOUT
>>>> mini-festival of psychedelic trance, intelligent dance and downtempo.
>>>> Music begins at 10 PM Friday, August 26th and ends at noon on Sunday,
>>>> August 28th, RAIN OR SHINE.
>>>> CAMPING commences at 7 PM Friday.
>>>>
>>>> indoor & outdoor areas of sound via NUCLEAR SUBS
>>>>
>>>> Special LIVE performance by :
>>>> JIRAH
>>>> Tim McCAll, known in the global trance community as Jirah, was born in
>>>> the southern United States and has released tracks on many prominent
>>>> psy labels including USTA, Dragonfly, Synergetic, Deja Vu, Vaporvent,
>>>> Aleph Zero, Harmonia, Organic and Spliff. This will be Jirah's FINAL
>>>> performance before withdrawing from the psy scene.
>>>> http://www.jirah.com
>>>>
>>>> Get the first official vinyl pressing
>>>> as well as limited edition, numbered & signed
>>>> vinyl produced by Jirah @
>>>> http://www.psymbolic.com/shop/
>>>>
>>>> DJs:
>>>>
>>>> D.N.A. (Dan Efex)
>>>> Nepol Records, Chicago, IL
>>>> http://www.danefex.com
>>>> Dan Efex, a long time player in the trance scene, comes back to us
>>>> once again ready to deliver a heavy dosage of psychedelic trance upon
>>>> all those who stand before him.
>>>> JETO
>>>> Divine Balance Records, Los Angeles, CA
>>>> S.O.T.
>>>> TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
>>>> SCORPIO
>>>> Zodiac Productions, Chicago, IL
>>>> KAISER SOZE
>>>> PTLF / 37H3R, Milwaukee, WI
>>>> DERBY
>>>> TOUCH Samadhi, Chicago, IL
>>>> DJ STORM
>>>> PTLF, Milwaukee, WI
>>>> SHAI
>>>> Divine Balance Records, Chicago, IL
>>>> UNDERFOOT
>>>> Audiognomes, Madison, WI
>>>> TOKI
>>>> Audiognomes, Madison, WI
>>>> NASCENT
>>>> Audiognomes, New York, NY
>>>> GEAL
>>>> Audiognomes, Madison, WI
>>>> DJ ROBYO
>>>> Audiognomes, Rockford, IL
>>>> GENE STEALER
>>>> The Hive Mind, Kalamazoo, MI
>>>> SCREENDOOR
>>>> Niche, Milwuakee, WI
>>>> PSYGOMIN
>>>> Appleton, WI
>>>> PSILOPSYBEN
>>>> Madison, WI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interactive Projected Visuals by
>>>> PSYMBOLIC VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
>>>> http://www.psymbolic.com
>>>> Internationally recognized visual artists
>>>> that have recently relocated to Chicago from Texas.
>>>> Their theme orientated visuals are composed of customized
>>>> video loops, in which they personally shoot, edit & effect.
>>>> They use exclusively programmed realtime visual software
>>>> & hardware to synch their video loops, camera inputs & effects
>>>> to the beat of the live music.
>>>>
>>>> Projected Visuals by
>>>> THE PAKA PAKA LIGHTSHOW
>>>> The Paka Paka Lightshow consists of the father & son team Jerry and
>>>> Reuben Fortier and long time collaborator Dale Kaminski. In 1968,
>>>> Fortier founded the Eyes of Khamphalous Lightshow in Madison, WI. As
>>>> the visuals behind the Broadway production of "Warp" and the resident
>>>> lightshow for the Melkweg and Paradiso clubs in Amsterdam from 1969 to
>>>> 1972, the Khamphalous Lightshow created a unique psychedlic visual
>>>> experience. The Paka Paka Lightshow brings this experience into the
>>>> digital age.
>>>>
>>>> Refreshments by PSYCHAI
>>>>
>>>> To bring :
>>>> -tent
>>>> -sleeping bag
>>>> -flashlight
>>>> -food/water
>>>> -NO ALCOHOL
>>>>
>>>> RSVP minimum donation : $25 (INSANELY LOW PRICE-- feel free to donate
>>>> more if able)
>>>> At the door : $30*
>>>>
>>>> RSVP locations :
>>>> http://www.chilluminati.org
>>>> http://www.audiognomes.com
>>>> http://www.psymbolic.com
>>>>
>>>> *Guests are strongly advised to RSVP as event WILL sell out. 250 max
>>>> capacity! Door admission not guaranteed. PRE-REGISTRATION GUARANTEES
>>>> ENTRANCE!
>>>>
>>>> Parking limited. $5 charge per vehicle. Please carpool.
>>>> 18+ unless accompanied by parent
>>>> kids under 13 - free w/ parent
>>>> $25 vendor fee
>>>> entertainment subject to change
>>>> Come help us celebrate Toki's birthday!
>>>>
>>>> Directions and more info pending!
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sep 3-4                     PAXAHAU 7 year anniv                    Detroit
>>>>
>>>> VENUES: 7 Year Anniversary - Masonic Temple Fountain Ballroom
>>>> ------------ MC2:Electronic BBQ
>>>>
>>>> richie hawtin
>>>> luciano
>>>> monolake
>>>> + more TBA
>>>>
>>>> .... more info soon
>>>>
>>>> PRESALES: available online at paxahau.com or in 3D at neptune and
>>>> recordtime ferndale beginning friday august 12th
>>>> AGE: 18+
>>>>
>>>> QUESTIONS / CONCERNS connect@paxahau.com
>>>> http://paxahau.com/
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-xx-paxahau_7_year_anniv.gif">
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Wed Sep 21                       THE SEMINAR                        Chicago
>>>>
>>>> WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21
>>>> BassByThePound presents
>>>> THE SEMINAR @ Lava featuring
>>>> STAKKA : CARGO : NEW YORK
>>>> Lava 859 N. Damen
>>>> 21+ with ID : $3 Budwieser : NO COVER
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
>>>> Sat Sep 17                         MOTION                           Chicago
>>>>
>>>> GATE 9 PRODUCTIONS, IRRATIONAL MUZIKWERX, DARKSIDE PRODUCTIONS CARTEL
>>>> presents:
>>>>
>>>> MOTION
>>>> 9.17.2005 - Logan Square Auditorium
>>>> CHICAGO, ILLI-fucking-NOIS
>>>>
>>>> The acts.......and their schedule.......
>>>> _________________________ _________________________ __________________
>>>> ROOM.1
>>>>
>>>> MATHEMATIX (aka MC MTHMTX) and DREA
>>>> Etc. TECHNOlogies/Lumia/Proper Productions
>>>> Tampa, FL
>>>> Etctechno.com
>>>>
>>>> 1AM . 3AM
>>>>
>>>> Don't miss this exclusive chance to witness the innovative performance
>>>> by Equation as The "Equation 2005 Tour" makes a stop here in Chicago.
>>>> The duo.s performance will feature MC MTHMTX (Theatrical performer and
>>>> vocalist), as he will be incorporating his creative stage show and wild
>>>> style of visually stimulating costumes and digitally enhanced vocals
>>>> with real time synth filtered effects. All while the lovely Drea pumps
>>>> out a high energy mix of multi-genre Progressive Electronic Dance
>>>> Music.. Truly talented with her programming skills, and a wicked ear for
>>>> music that reflects directly upon her track selection. Drea will take
>>>> you on an aural journey through the music aspect of the show. This
>>>> talented Diva sets the tempo and never lets up as the set progresses to
>>>> extreme levels. She and Math will show you how they put a whole new
>>>> meaning to a DJ/MC set! The Equation experience will create a dance
>>>> filled frenzy that is sure to rock the joint and set your body in
>>>> MOTION. With Drea in the mix and the performance by MC MTHMTX you.ll be
>>>> sure to be blown away with an overwhelming display of vocal sound
>>>> effects, video projections, and a cast of local talented dancers who
>>>> will participate in the stage show., Equation will create a powerful
>>>> atmosphere that will leave you wanting more!! The 2005 tour performance
>>>> promises to give a taste of what to expect from "EQUATION" as they fine
>>>> tune the upcoming LIVE PA act!!! Immediately following the Equation show
>>>> catch the hard driving DJ set of DJ MathematiX as he will be droppin.
>>>> the dark styles of Drum .n. Bass and Progressive NuSkool Breaks. Armed
>>>> with an arsenal of exclusive dubs and some of his original tracks.
>>>>
>>>> *****FREE GIVEAWAYS!!!!!*****during the Equation performance from
>>>> Equation and Tour sponsors; System Recordings, Rinse Mag and more!!
>>>>
>>>> ADAM X
>>>> Sonic Groove
>>>> NYC
>>>> Techno
>>>> djadamx.com
>>>>
>>>> 12AM . 1AM
>>>>
>>>> In his DJ performances and track production, Adam X's sound is best
>>>> described as hard, EBM and industrial inspired dance-floor techno &
>>>> electro. Adam X penetrates, educates and infuses his audience with a
>>>> real energy, often drawing from dark & sexual themes, through the
>>>> mastery of the electronic music medium he has gained from a prolific
>>>> career. Adam got started in NYC in the early '90s -an era of a
>>>> burgeoning grass-roots music and club culture, which he himself had
>>>> contributed to. In his career, Adam X has performed alongside artists
>>>> such as Aphex Twin, Surgeon & Joey Beltram, and lately, the likes of
>>>> Terence Fixmer/Douglas Mccarthy and Andrew Weatherall. He's performed at
>>>> thousands of events, raves and club nights globally including Mayday,
>>>> Love Parade, DEMF, and Fabric. Adam's list of solo commercial releases
>>>> and collaborative projects on CD and vinyl is equally impressive. A few
>>>> of the many labels Adam has released music under are Wax Trax-TVT
>>>> (Mastermix Series Vol. 2), Instinct Records (Adam X 'On the 1 and 2'),
>>>> Oliver Chesler's Things To Come Label (Sensory Deprivation) and many
>>>> projects on his own aforementioned label, Sonic Groove. Adam currently
>>>> has a chameleonic approach to his artistry, playing at Industrial events
>>>> like Maschinenfest in Germany, to playing famous techno clubs the next
>>>> night like Rex Club in Paris. His own productions also combine the two
>>>> genres, containing elements of both in a single track.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SHUGGA b2b EVA(aka Evil Bunnie)
>>>> BOTZ/Native-Instruments/Temple of Boom/H2O/GrapeyBaby
>>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>>
>>>> 11PM . 12AM
>>>>
>>>> Raized on the East, reprezentin' the West, These Bitchez on Da Switchez
>>>> are a combination like no other! No need for Drugz here when Shuggaz
>>>> nastee NuSkool & Eva's evil electro tear through the speakerz and and
>>>> shred yo brain like nothing you've ever experienced! Shuggaz been
>>>> tearing it up worldwide for 8 years with Caffeine, Funk Dawg, Satellite
>>>> NY, now Native, and Temple of Boom and Eva's ripping up the underground
>>>> scene in LA like no other! Get ready to be rocked by the two of the
>>>> sickest Breakz djs you will ever know! YOU WERE WARNED!
>>>>
>>>> Psycho The Irrational Kidd
>>>> Irrational Mob Mentality/Gold Coast Multimedia/Funkilinium
>>>> Flint, MI
>>>>
>>>> 10PM . 11PM
>>>>
>>>> Expect the unexpected. One of the most wildly unpredictable DJs that you
>>>> will ever lay your eyes and ears upon. Psyc, a 24-year veteran of the
>>>> turntables (and former Midwest scratch champ), recently gave up staying
>>>> in one area because he believes that "if it's on vinyl, it's fair game".
>>>> He also plays with FUNKILINIUM, a 6-piece powerhouse funk band that has
>>>> been getting a lot of attention from the majors lately. Be there to
>>>> witness why Psycho has been called "the missing link between Jeff Mills
>>>> and the Tazmanian Devil".
>>>>
>>>> Naughtya
>>>> Weekend Warriors
>>>> Grand Rapids, MI
>>>>
>>>> 9PM . 10PM
>>>>
>>>> Nicknamed "The Booty Queen," Naughtya mixes the nastiest tracks, ranging
>>>> from Ghetto House, Ghetto Tech, Booty, to Old School Miami Bass...All
>>>> served up naughty, BUTT nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ROOM.2
>>>>
>>>> Nico Blue
>>>> 616 - JUNGLE Dark Heart Republic
>>>> Jenison, MI
>>>>
>>>> 2AM . 3AM
>>>>
>>>> Nico has been spinning drum-and-bass for around 3 years in Grand Rapids,
>>>> MI. From dancy to dark, soft to hard, he is known for his impressive
>>>> track selection and guaranteed to have you moving all night long. Bring
>>>> your body and he'll bring the bass.
>>>>
>>>> John Johr
>>>> Cave DJs/Input<>Output | Detroit, MI | Techno
>>>>
>>>> 1AM . 2AM
>>>>
>>>> This cat comes with the heart of a lion, the track selection of a
>>>> supreme master and the mixing techniques that only Detroit can bring.
>>>> John has been putting together one of the more premier nights for
>>>> electronic music in Detroit for some time now (input<>output), and is
>>>> now beginning to spread his wings outside of the D. Prepare to have your
>>>> head bashed in.
>>>>
>>>> Ryan H. and CL8NC
>>>> Division Underground
>>>> Bangin House/Tag Team Collaboration
>>>> Minnesota
>>>>
>>>> 12AM . 1AM
>>>>
>>>> Straight from the Minneapolis massive, these tactical dechnicions
>>>> provide a synergy between the electronic weaponry and the dance floor
>>>> you don't want to miss.Together, these 2 D's will bring an arsenal of
>>>> wax fresh of the press, molded with the Underground's 12" House
>>>> classics.
>>>>
>>>> Spektrum
>>>> (hard/dark/aggressive drum & bass, Kalamazoo, MI)
>>>>
>>>> 11PM . 12AM
>>>>
>>>> This turntable assassin was born with a wide variety of skill and
>>>> precision. His name is the epitome of his raw style which encompasses
>>>> the full spectrum of drum & bass music, but you really should leave your
>>>> silver bullets at home, cause this guy is definitely known for bringing
>>>> it dark enough for the vampires...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dj Roll
>>>> Race of Reaction/True Family Unit /C9 Records
>>>> - DnB, Hip Hop, Trip Hop
>>>> Champaign, IL
>>>>
>>>> 10PM . 11PM
>>>>
>>>> Roll has been producing for 6 years, blending a steady mix of hip hop
>>>> jungle and scratching About a year ago roll finally decided to take up
>>>> the 1200's, deeming jungle as his weapon of choice. Having played along
>>>> side the likes of Danny the Wild Child, True Family Unit, as well as
>>>> fellow Race of Reaction peers, the last year has been a bombshell of
>>>> productivity. Boasting a wide variety of tracks and one (of many) vinyl
>>>> releases his sound will leave you, rollin, rollin.
>>>>
>>>> Max Jerome
>>>> Irrational Mob Mentality | UKG/2step
>>>> Flint, MI
>>>>
>>>> 9PM . 10PM
>>>>
>>>> Looks can be decieving. Max Jerome doesn't look the part of the funky
>>>> get-down artist that rocks all points of UK Garage, but let him loose on
>>>> the decks......and watch the bassbins react. He's been studying the
>>>> Garage scene since 1997, and is a walking encyclopedia of all things
>>>> UKG. Come witness the sound of the Bwoi them call Max J.....and see why
>>>> he's top choice.....
>>>>
>>>> _________________________ _________________________ ________________
>>>>
>>>> A limited amount of presales will be available @
>>>>
>>>> Wax Addict
>>>> 1014 N. Ashland
>>>> Chicago, IL
>>>> 773.772.9930
>>>>
>>>> As well as, through Gate9Productions...tickets@gate9productions.com for
>>>> more info.
>>>>
>>>> beginning Apr.25.2005
>>>>
>>>> Presales are $15
>>>>
>>>> It will $20 ATD all night.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Web Support:
>>>>
>>>> midwestravers.com
>>>> gate9productions.com
>>>> michiganravers.com
>>>> scenenetworks.com
>>>> detroitluv.com
>>>> kindkidz.us
>>>> mnvibe.com
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-17-motion.front.jpg">
>>>>
>>>> <img src="http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/archives/flyers/05-09-17-motion.back.jpg">
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -=-=-=---------------------------------------------------------------=-=-=-
>>>>
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Source & Digital Umbrella present....
 
~~*WONDERLAND*~~
 
September 24th, the original returns...
 
Chicagoland Area
No price on the flyer, but it does say "secure space but without the full scale price"
 
LINE-UP:
 
Todd Sines, NYC
Realtime, Houston
Acid Circus, Los Angeles
DJ Barbeau, Los Angeles
Heavy Grinder, Los Angeles
 
Chicago's Heavy Hitters:
 
Delta 9
Submerge101
Dan Efx
Damien
Phantom 45
High Caliber
Linus
Monologic - LIVE PA
 
Chicago's Originals:
 
DJ Jes
Phil Free Art
Notorious Nino
Three Jay
Mind Bender
Adonis
Trancid
 
Chicago Phuture:
 
Autoaxon - LIVE PA
Solange
Rampage
Source 1
Idiom
Kiddo
 
 
Main Info:
 
773-263-4485
www.myspace.com/wonderlandchicago
www.digitalumbrella.net
digitalumbrella@gmail.com
 
 
Fuck yah I'm going.....

		
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Tix are $20 presale (on sale Aug. 29th @Another Level, Wax Addict, & Untitled)
$22 at the door, till 11pm
$25 after 11pm
 

Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Source & Digital Umbrella present....

~~*WONDERLAND*~~

September 24th, the original returns...

Chicagoland Area
No price on the flyer, but it does say "secure space but without the full scale price"

LINE-UP:

Todd Sines, NYC
Realtime, Houston
Acid Circus, Los Angeles
DJ Barbeau, Los Angeles
Heavy Grinder, Los Angeles

Chicago's Heavy Hitters:

Delta 9
Submerge101
Dan Efx
Damien
Phantom 45
High Caliber
Linus
Monologic - LIVE PA

Chicago's Originals:

DJ Jes
Phil Free Art
Notorious Nino
Three Jay
Mind Bender
Adonis
Trancid

Chicago Phuture:

Autoaxon - LIVE PA
Solange
Rampage
Source 1
Idiom
Kiddo


Main Info:

773-263-4485
www.myspace.com/wonderlandchicago
www.digitalumbrella.net
digitalumbrella@gmail.com


Fuck yah I'm going.....


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I remember the original Wonderland..

  I met one of the most influential people in my life so far there...

ahhhhhhh good memories..


(0_o)


>From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] WONDERLAND, Sept. 24th
>Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:25:38 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Tix are $20 presale (on sale Aug. 29th @Another Level, Wax Addict, & 
>Untitled)
>$22 at the door, till 11pm
>$25 after 11pm
>
>
>Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Source & Digital Umbrella present....
>
>~~*WONDERLAND*~~
>
>September 24th, the original returns...
>
>Chicagoland Area
>No price on the flyer, but it does say "secure space but without the full 
>scale price"
>
>LINE-UP:
>
>Todd Sines, NYC
>Realtime, Houston
>Acid Circus, Los Angeles
>DJ Barbeau, Los Angeles
>Heavy Grinder, Los Angeles
>
>Chicago's Heavy Hitters:
>
>Delta 9
>Submerge101
>Dan Efx
>Damien
>Phantom 45
>High Caliber
>Linus
>Monologic - LIVE PA
>
>Chicago's Originals:
>
>DJ Jes
>Phil Free Art
>Notorious Nino
>Three Jay
>Mind Bender
>Adonis
>Trancid
>
>Chicago Phuture:
>
>Autoaxon - LIVE PA
>Solange
>Rampage
>Source 1
>Idiom
>Kiddo
>
>
>Main Info:
>
>773-263-4485
>www.myspace.com/wonderlandchicago
>www.digitalumbrella.net
>digitalumbrella@gmail.com
>
>
>Fuck yah I'm going.....
>
>
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> I remember the original Wonderland..
>   I met one of the most influential people in my life so far there...
> ahhhhhhh good memories..

Source's Wonderland series were one of the few Chicago parties that at
least partly focused on hardcore (happy, gabber, etc). they were also
usually pretty fun. so yea...i'll be there.

m

> >~~*WONDERLAND*~~
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If anyone remembers, the original wonderland got shut down early, and ended 
up at some hole in the wall where panacea was going crazy..

Was... dreamy..

heh

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> > I remember the original Wonderland..
> >   I met one of the most influential people in my life so far there...
> > ahhhhhhh good memories..
>
>Source's Wonderland series were one of the few Chicago parties that at
>least partly focused on hardcore (happy, gabber, etc). they were also
>usually pretty fun. so yea...i'll be there.
>
>m
>
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Wow, its too bad this isnt a midwest event.
Some talent I havent seen in some time.
 
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Subject: [mw] utah raid by swat team

    /"...The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its 
lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this 
thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a 
guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this 
point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" 
rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone 
"get the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really 
sticky..."/



*video clip (no sound):*
- http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/.Public/facism.wmv

*various testimonials & discussion:*
- http://www.404audio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14814
- http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=20020
- http://www.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=19971

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Subject: Re: [mw] utah raid by swat team

OK, I sent my letter to the sheriff department's PR guy, Sgt. Dennis  
Harris (ucso.dennis@state.ut.us) and I encourage y'all to do the  
same.  I'm sure I'll be branded as a terrorist and have my phone  
tapped and my house raided shortly but hey, it's worth it to rattle  
the cage a little bit.  Maybe if enough people send well-worded  
letters of inquiry to this guy they'll start to feel the heat.   
Anyway, here's what I wrote.  Hope you enjoy it...Oh, Trout, please  
forward to pb-cle-raves:


> From: Jason Tertadian <email removed for privacy>
> Date: August 21, 2005 9:01:59 PM CDT
> To: ucso.dennis@state.ut.us
> Subject: Concern regarding miscommunication
>
> Good day!  I just read the news article on your homepage regarding  
> the techno music event that was recently raided and shutdown in  
> Spanish Fork Canyon.  After perusing multiple reports from  
> firsthand witnesses and viewing video footage shot by attendees of  
> the event, I find it interesting that Sgt. Gilbert's report  
> neglects to mention the rampant use of unnecessary force and  
> violations of civil liberties which occurred during the raid.  I do  
> understand the need to maintain a positive image for P.R. but these  
> are rather large omissions.  Wouldn't you agree?
>
> I look forward to seeing the final outcome of this matter unfold in  
> court, as I'm sure it will not shine a positive light on your  
> overzealous personnel and their un-American behavior now that the  
> American Civil Liberties Union is involved.  Such conduct would  
> have been fitting for members of the SS in Nazi Germany, but for  
> law enforcers in the USA they are just plain out of line.  The  
> mothers of these officers would be ashamed to know how their sons  
> and daughters harm the people they are sworn to protect, and the  
> officers, in turn, should be ashamed of themselves.
>
>
> Be good.
>
> Sincerely,
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On 8/21/05, jsn111 <jsn111@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, I sent my letter to the sheriff department's PR guy, Sgt. Dennis
> Harris (ucso.dennis@state.ut.us) and I encourage y'all to do the
> same.  I'm sure I'll be branded as a terrorist and have my phone
> tapped and my house raided shortly but hey, it's worth it to rattle
> the cage a little bit.  Maybe if enough people send well-worded
> letters of inquiry to this guy they'll start to feel the heat.
> Anyway, here's what I wrote.  Hope you enjoy it...Oh, Trout, please
> forward to pb-cle-raves:
>=20
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> > From: Jason Tertadian <email removed for privacy>
> > Date: August 21, 2005 9:01:59 PM CDT
> > To: ucso.dennis@state.ut.us
> > Subject: Concern regarding miscommunication
> >
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> > American Civil Liberties Union is involved.  Such conduct would
> > have been fitting for members of the SS in Nazi Germany, but for
> > law enforcers in the USA they are just plain out of line.  The
[snip]


Godwin would be proud.

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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} utah raid by swat team

i haven't downloaded any of the video, so i dont know if this is any
different than the one posted last night....


flyer w/ lineup:
http://joannaborovska.brinkster.net/VERSUSB.jpg

From: JAYVON
Date: Aug 22, 2005 3:38 AM


Here is the video footage:

http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html



Knick of Evol intent puts the night's events into his own words::

Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt
Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700
tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an
amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on
them to promote in local shops.

So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was
all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an
amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound
was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just
seemed too good to be true really. Well...

At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone
when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I
jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with.
I wasn't far off.

The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on
the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle
us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in
camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone
was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and
cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the fuck out of
here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.

No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd
of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on
him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few
times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were
cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop,
peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR GAS is launched into
the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are
crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.

Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other
accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver,
these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..

- One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one
of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police
tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.

- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to
document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and
ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend
grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though.
Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.

- The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter
went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the
permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of
his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get
the fuck out of here right now."



Now.. let's get the facts straight here.

This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they
needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They
had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or
drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I
suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for
possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner
of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar.
A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided
that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN
PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave
her own property!!!

Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most
conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of
our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made
it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The
promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to
to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of
radical neo-con's with an agenda.

This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I
can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault
rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really
necessary?

This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene
(edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're
losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a
standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULLSHIT!

The system fucked up last night... They broke up a party that was 100%
legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The
promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the
ACLU is already involved.

I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll
make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of
America at work.



the video with sound they didnt want you to see


-------------------

From: Joanna aka Syze
Date: Aug 21, 2005 11:59 PM

UTAH PARTY I WAS PLAYING AT .... SAD


Hey everyone, by now most of you know that I was set to perform at the
Versus 2 in Salt Lake City Utah last night August 20th 2005. I am mad,
sad, and disturbed at what happened. Here is more info and thank you all
for your kind words.......please spread this all around and write letters
so we can be heard and fight this.

Ravers mauled by K-9s, beat up by police, CAMERAS CONFISCATED & DESTROYED,
SWAT brandishing ASSAULT RIFLES, women KICK IN THE STOMACH by cops, TEAR
GAS dispersed!
Make sure to check out Knick's post, linked towards the bottom of this blog.

Utah Raves Forum:
http://forums.utrave.org/showthread.php?t=19971

My story on Seattle DNB

http://www.seattlednb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2840

Knick from Evol Intents story

http://www.404audio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14814


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***FLAG BURNING RITUAL***
 
NW Suburbs, IL
$30 divided by however many people want to come ($5, $1, $0.30???)
 
 
It's time to VISUALIZE our government's destruction. It's time to gather and discuss our future. It's time to dance to the disolvement Big Brother. We will see our future in the fire of our burning flag. Come and practice your Constitutional Rights!
 
All those interested in joining us in burning the American Flag, email me. It costs $30 for a 3'x5' flag, so the more people who want to do this, the cheaper & more powerful it will be. I'm thinking maybe this weekend sometime...depends on your responses....
 
I'll try to arrange some music, etc. If you have any ideas, let me know.
 
 
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This is with out a doubt, the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time..

  Stay home, save your money and do something intelligent..

             (0_o)

better yet... Send the money to me.. I will use it properly..



>From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>***FLAG BURNING RITUAL***
>
>NW Suburbs, IL
>$30 divided by however many people want to come ($5, $1, $0.30???)
>
>
>It's time to VISUALIZE our government's destruction. It's time to gather 
>and discuss our future. It's time to dance to the disolvement Big Brother. 
>We will see our future in the fire of our burning flag. Come and practice 
>your Constitutional Rights!
>
>All those interested in joining us in burning the American Flag, email me. 
>It costs $30 for a 3'x5' flag, so the more people who want to do this, the 
>cheaper & more powerful it will be. I'm thinking maybe this weekend 
>sometime...depends on your responses....
>
>I'll try to arrange some music, etc. If you have any ideas, let me know.
>
>
>DIRECTIONS:  It'll be near Inverness, IL  (approx. 45min. from Chicago).
>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} utah raid by swat team

Man....this is so absurd.  Someone should be held
responsible for this.  I can not believe they sent in
troops to break up a legal event.  How the hell did
the super authorities find out about this party?  How
much money was wasted on materials to break it up and
finally what the fuck is going on in this world?

That video just really pissed me off.

--- trout@pornstarstyle.com wrote:

> i haven't downloaded any of the video, so i dont
> know if this is any
> different than the one posted last night....
> 
> 
> flyer w/ lineup:
> http://joannaborovska.brinkster.net/VERSUSB.jpg
> 
> From: JAYVON
> Date: Aug 22, 2005 3:38 AM
> 
> 
> Here is the video footage:
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html
> 
> 
> 
> Knick of Evol intent puts the night's events into
> his own words::
> 
> Last night, I was booked to play an event about an
> hour outside of Salt
> Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge,
> they presold 700
> tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total.
> The promoters did an
> amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats
> with the flyers on
> them to promote in local shops.
> 
> So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was
> really cool. It was
> all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge
> mountains. They had an
> amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind
> the site, the sound
> was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick
> and everything just
> seemed too good to be true really. Well...
> 
> At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the
> stage talking with someone
> when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the
> mountain tops. I
> jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to
> the person I was with.
> I wasn't far off.
> 
> The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started
> shining its lights on
> the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and
> watched this thing circle
> us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd
> I saw a guy dressed in
> camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At
> this point, everyone
> was fully aware of what was going on . A few
> "troops" rushed the stage and
> cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone
> "get the fuck out of
> here or go to jail". This is where it got really
> sticky.
> 
> No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police
> dogs raiding the crowd
> of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who
> obviously had some drugs on
> him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1),
> and kicked him a few
> times in the ribs and had their knees in his back
> and sides. As they were
> cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to
> leave in the backdrop,
> peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR
> GAS is launched into
> the crowd. People are running and screaming at this
> point. Girls are
> crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.
> 
> Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard
> plenty of other
> accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard
> from some candy raver,
> these are instances cited straight out of the
> promoters mouth..
> 
> - One of the promoters friends (a very small female)
> was attacked by one
> of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away
> from it, the police
> tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN
> THE STOMACH.
> 
> - The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total.
> People were trying to
> document what was happening out there. The police
> saw one guy filming and
> ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and
> luckily.. his friend
> grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage.
> That's not all though.
> Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more
> footage.
> 
> - The police were rounding up the staff of the party
> and the main promoter
> went up to them with the permit for the show and
> said "here, I have the
> permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and
> ripped the permit out of
> his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his
> forehead and said "get
> the fuck out of here right now."
> 
> 
> 
> Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
> 
> This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the
> city told them they
> needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy
> for the event. They
> had liscenced security guards at the gates
> confiscating any alcohol or
> drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car
> on the way in). Oh, I
> suppose I should mention that they arrested all the
> security guards for
> possession.
> 
> Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not
> have a warrant. The owner
> of the land already has a lawsuit against the city
> for something similar.
> A few months ago, she rented her land for a party
> and the police raided
> that as well. And catch this, the police forced her
> to LEAVE HER OWN
> PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest
> her, but made her leave
> her own property!!!
> 
> Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in
> probably THE most
> conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a
> gross violation of
> our civil liberties. The police wanted this party
> shut down, so they made
> it happen. Even though everything about this event
> was legal. The
> promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did
> everything they had to
> to make it legit, only to have it taken away from
> them by a group of
> radical neo-con's with an agenda.
> 
> This was one of the scariest things I have ever
> witnessed in person. I
> can't even begin to describe how surreal it was.
> Helicopters, assault
> rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers....
> why? Was that really
> necessary?
> 
> This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least
> in our music scene
> (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us
> at any time. When we're
> losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also
> letting the police set a
> standard of what we can get away with. And I think
> that's BULLSHIT!
> 
> The system fucked up last night... They broke up a
> party that was 100%
> legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there
> at the same time. The
> promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with
> their lawyers and the
> ACLU is already involved.
> 
> I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video)
> will surface soon. I'll
> make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can
> see the Police State of
> America at work.
> 
> 
> 
> the video with sound they didnt want you to see
> 
> 
> -------------------
> 
> From: Joanna aka Syze
> Date: Aug 21, 2005 11:59 PM
> 
> UTAH PARTY I WAS PLAYING AT .... SAD
> 
> 
> 
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i hear he still is...or at least he still can't beatmatch to save his=20
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 meester dereek ;]
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Subject: RE: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL

i concur. the word 'unnecessary' comes to mind.

"It is poignant but fundamental that the flag protects those who hold it in
contempt." -Justice Kennedy

i will also be accepting cash donations to do non-foolish things.

-qk.

>
> This is with out a doubt, the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time..
>
>   Stay home, save your money and do something intelligent..
>
>              (0_o)
>
> better yet... Send the money to me.. I will use it properly..
>
>
>
> >From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL
> >Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >***FLAG BURNING RITUAL***
> >
> >NW Suburbs, IL
> >$30 divided by however many people want to come ($5, $1, $0.30???)
> >
> >
> >It's time to VISUALIZE our government's destruction. It's time to gather
> >and discuss our future. It's time to dance to the disolvement Big Brother.
> >We will see our future in the fire of our burning flag. Come and practice
> >your Constitutional Rights!
> >
> >All those interested in joining us in burning the American Flag, email me.
> >It costs $30 for a 3'x5' flag, so the more people who want to do this, the
> >cheaper & more powerful it will be. I'm thinking maybe this weekend
> >sometime...depends on your responses....
> >
> >I'll try to arrange some music, etc. If you have any ideas, let me know.
> >
> >
> >DIRECTIONS:  It'll be near Inverness, IL  (approx. 45min. from Chicago).
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} utah raid by swat team

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, St. Burrell wrote:

> Man....this is so absurd.  Someone should be held
> responsible for this.  I can not believe they sent in
> troops to break up a legal event.  How the hell did
> the super authorities find out about this party?

from what i'm reading, the party was promoted very heavily in that 
area...

if the party really was "illegal", it would not have been that hard to 
break it up before it even began - and without beating the fuck out of 
people.

How
> much money was wasted on materials to break it up and
> finally what the fuck is going on in this world?

a lot and, man, i don't know.

chad

> That video just really pissed me off.
>


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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} utah raid by swat team

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2964938
Slightly more balanced article than the one I read yesterday in the
same paper/site.

On 8/23/05, chad <chad@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, St. Burrell wrote:
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> > Man....this is so absurd.  Someone should be held
> > responsible for this.  I can not believe they sent in
> > troops to break up a legal event.  How the hell did
> > the super authorities find out about this party?
>=20
> from what i'm reading, the party was promoted very heavily in that
> area...
>=20
> if the party really was "illegal", it would not have been that hard to
> break it up before it even began - and without beating the fuck out of
> people.
>=20
> How
> > much money was wasted on materials to break it up and
> > finally what the fuck is going on in this world?
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> a lot and, man, i don't know.
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> >
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I think what it comes down to is that the city & state do NOT want these 
parties happening in their backyard, and wanted to send a direct message 
that was crystal clear....



Its like that scene in The Big Lebowski when the sherrif throws his coffee 
cup at the dude, beats the shit out of him and screams "Stay outta Malibu, 
Deadbeat!!!"


Its kinda like that.


derek.




On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, chad wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005, St. Burrell wrote:
>
>>  Man....this is so absurd.  Someone should be held
>>  responsible for this.  I can not believe they sent in
>>  troops to break up a legal event.  How the hell did
>>  the super authorities find out about this party?
>
> from what i'm reading, the party was promoted very heavily in that area...
>
> if the party really was "illegal", it would not have been that hard to break 
> it up before it even began - and without beating the fuck out of people.
>
> How
>>  much money was wasted on materials to break it up and
>>  finally what the fuck is going on in this world?
>
> a lot and, man, i don't know.
>
> chad
>
>>  That video just really pissed me off.
>> 
>
>
> .
>
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I thought it was kinda funny that something like this hadn't made it to the 
national news... so I sent a news tip to CNN complete with links to the 
video, etc. Having worked in a news paper for a while, I know major news 
organizations basically take their cue from the wires (Reuters, A.P.)... if 
all they are getting is the local news version,  then they need to see a 
more accurate view of events.

Hopefully this will embarrass quite a few people.

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Subject: RE: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL

When I was 16, some friends and I tore down the american flag at a local 
cemetary, wrapped a dead bird in it and threw it in front of the police 
station while riding our bikes... not my proudest moment for sure, but damn 
did it feel good!

These days I'd rather wrap my junk mail in an american flag and burn it.

/ryan

>***FLAG BURNING RITUAL***
>
>NW Suburbs, IL
>$30 divided by however many people want to come ($5, $1, $0.30???)
>
>
>It's time to VISUALIZE our government's destruction. It's time to gather 
>and discuss our future. It's time to dance to the disolvement Big Brother. 
>We will see our future in the fire of our burning flag. Come and practice 
>your Constitutional Rights!
>
>All those interested in joining us in burning the American Flag, email me. 
>It costs $30 for a 3'x5' flag, so the more people who want to do this, the 
>cheaper & more powerful it will be. I'm thinking maybe this weekend 
>sometime...depends on your responses....
>
>I'll try to arrange some music, etc. If you have any ideas, let me know.
>
>
>DIRECTIONS:  It'll be near Inverness, IL  (approx. 45min. from Chicago).
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} utah raid by swat team

This reminds me of something I was pondering last night...

I had just returned from looking at a new apartment.  It was perfect in 
every way I could conceive.  It was walking distance from work, close to the 
schools, had 3 bdrms, a basement and garage, etc etc... Only one problem, 
they don't allow cats!!  I asked the manager lady why they didn't allow pets 
and she said,

"well it was probably a few pet owners who ruined it for the rest of us..."

So I got to thinking about the past rave scene and how the media pushed the 
idea that it was those few "drug addicted morons" who ruined it for 
everybody else.  Then I thought about the War on Terrorism and how 
supposedly a few violent minded criminals were able to destroy 200+ years of 
rights and freedoms.  Then it dawned on me that it was not these few 
misguided souls who ruin it for everybody else, it is just an excuse to 
further erode our rights and freedoms.

So next time somebody says a few people ruin things for everybody else, tell 
them that this limited mode of thinking is going to ruin us all!

/ryan

>Man....this is so absurd.  Someone should be held
>responsible for this.  I can not believe they sent in
>troops to break up a legal event.  How the hell did
>the super authorities find out about this party?  How
>much money was wasted on materials to break it up and
>finally what the fuck is going on in this world?
>
>That video just really pissed me off.
>
>--- trout@pornstarstyle.com wrote:
>
> > i haven't downloaded any of the video, so i dont
> > know if this is any
> > different than the one posted last night....
> >
> >
> > flyer w/ lineup:
> > http://joannaborovska.brinkster.net/VERSUSB.jpg
> >
> > From: JAYVON
> > Date: Aug 22, 2005 3:38 AM
> >
> >
> > Here is the video footage:
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Knick of Evol intent puts the night's events into
> > his own words::
> >
> > Last night, I was booked to play an event about an
> > hour outside of Salt
> > Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge,
> > they presold 700
> > tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total.
> > The promoters did an
> > amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats
> > with the flyers on
> > them to promote in local shops.
> >
> > So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was
> > really cool. It was
> > all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge
> > mountains. They had an
> > amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind
> > the site, the sound
> > was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick
> > and everything just
> > seemed too good to be true really. Well...
> >
> > At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the
> > stage talking with someone
> > when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the
> > mountain tops. I
> > jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to
> > the person I was with.
> > I wasn't far off.
> >
> > The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started
> > shining its lights on
> > the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and
> > watched this thing circle
> > us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd
> > I saw a guy dressed in
> > camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At
> > this point, everyone
> > was fully aware of what was going on . A few
> > "troops" rushed the stage and
> > cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone
> > "get the fuck out of
> > here or go to jail". This is where it got really
> > sticky.
> >
> > No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police
> > dogs raiding the crowd
> > of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who
> > obviously had some drugs on
> > him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1),
> > and kicked him a few
> > times in the ribs and had their knees in his back
> > and sides. As they were
> > cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to
> > leave in the backdrop,
> > peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR
> > GAS is launched into
> > the crowd. People are running and screaming at this
> > point. Girls are
> > crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.
> >
> > Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard
> > plenty of other
> > accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard
> > from some candy raver,
> > these are instances cited straight out of the
> > promoters mouth..
> >
> > - One of the promoters friends (a very small female)
> > was attacked by one
> > of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away
> > from it, the police
> > tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN
> > THE STOMACH.
> >
> > - The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total.
> > People were trying to
> > document what was happening out there. The police
> > saw one guy filming and
> > ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and
> > luckily.. his friend
> > grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage.
> > That's not all though.
> > Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more
> > footage.
> >
> > - The police were rounding up the staff of the party
> > and the main promoter
> > went up to them with the permit for the show and
> > said "here, I have the
> > permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and
> > ripped the permit out of
> > his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his
> > forehead and said "get
> > the fuck out of here right now."
> >
> >
> >
> > Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
> >
> > This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the
> > city told them they
> > needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy
> > for the event. They
> > had liscenced security guards at the gates
> > confiscating any alcohol or
> > drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car
> > on the way in). Oh, I
> > suppose I should mention that they arrested all the
> > security guards for
> > possession.
> >
> > Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not
> > have a warrant. The owner
> > of the land already has a lawsuit against the city
> > for something similar.
> > A few months ago, she rented her land for a party
> > and the police raided
> > that as well. And catch this, the police forced her
> > to LEAVE HER OWN
> > PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest
> > her, but made her leave
> > her own property!!!
> >
> > Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in
> > probably THE most
> > conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a
> > gross violation of
> > our civil liberties. The police wanted this party
> > shut down, so they made
> > it happen. Even though everything about this event
> > was legal. The
> > promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did
> > everything they had to
> > to make it legit, only to have it taken away from
> > them by a group of
> > radical neo-con's with an agenda.
> >
> > This was one of the scariest things I have ever
> > witnessed in person. I
> > can't even begin to describe how surreal it was.
> > Helicopters, assault
> > rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers....
> > why? Was that really
> > necessary?
> >
> > This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least
> > in our music scene
> > (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us
> > at any time. When we're
> > losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also
> > letting the police set a
> > standard of what we can get away with. And I think
> > that's BULLSHIT!
> >
> > The system fucked up last night... They broke up a
> > party that was 100%
> > legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there
> > at the same time. The
> > promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with
> > their lawyers and the
> > ACLU is already involved.
> >
> > I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video)
> > will surface soon. I'll
> > make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can
> > see the Police State of
> > America at work.
> >
> >
> >
> > the video with sound they didnt want you to see
> >
> >
> > -------------------
> >
> > From: Joanna aka Syze
> > Date: Aug 21, 2005 11:59 PM
> >
> > UTAH PARTY I WAS PLAYING AT .... SAD
> >
> >
> >
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It is our right to burn the flag.
 
It is also our right to overthrow our own government if it gains too much control over its citizens. We founded this country on the basis that people were running away from governments with too much control. That's why we made a "fool-proof" plan. Unfortunately, most citizens ignore that plan. It states in our country's papers that it is not only our right, but our DUTY to stop nonsense from running rampant on our rights. It is our duty to overthrow the government if it becomes...well....what it has become.
 
Burning the flag is a symbolic way of controlling what's happening. It aids the visualization process. If we're all worrying about the government controlling us and overstepping their boundries, it will not help the situation. If we shift our thinking into a hopeful view of our country's future, we have a better chance at coming up with solutions.
 
Music is powerful. Imagine some phat trax with the constitution read throughout it. Certain words being repeated and distorted. Recordings from crazy republican conservatives sounding like the biggits that they are, intertwined with someone reciting the rights they step on. All while we burn the flag that They have put to shame. By burning it, we clense our minds. We burn the bullshit out of it. We take all that They have done to turn ourselves against each other and we put it back on Them. All We do is peacefully conveine and enjoy music together, expand our bodies, minds, & souls through abstract expressionism, dance, etc. This is our right as Human Beings. We shall not stand for this right to be trampled on. I want to rave in peace (so to speak). I realize I've never truely believed that there would be an end to this Big Brother bullshit we all go through. Maybe that has something to do with why it never stops. We never Think it will. (And since we never Think it will, we never
 think of anything to do to stop it and then Do it.)
 
Burning the flag is our RIGHT.
 
I don't know if anyone will stand up and take a chance with this, but it definately doesn't hurt to try. It won't be this weekend. I realized after my email yesturday that there's not enough time, plus I forgot about DREAMFIELDS. It'll probably end up being locals, but I figured I'd try to include the people on this list cuz everybody here seems to be pretty up for something like this. But we'll see, I could be wrong. Maybe the hippies were too stoned to think twice about burning the flag. Maybe I am too.
 
***But I certainly don't think it's disrespectful. I do, however, think it's disrespectful to sit back and watch our country be perverted by neo-nazi bullshit without (at the very LEAST) trying to think of and initiate ways to stop it. I know I'm a dreamer, but sometimes dreams come true. I have this dream that we can come up with solutions. I know it's something simple....but we haven't thought of it yet. I just think that burning the flag can help me think. Maybe it can help you too. Or not. Either way, I'm eventually gonna burn the fucker.


Danae Hanes <naybunny420@hotmail.com> wrote:

I can't believe this!  I'm not even an american citizen and that is just plain disrespectful.  Burning the flag is such an irony.  That flag is what gave you the right to express yourself and you're going to turn around and abuse it in this way?  That is a disgrace.  If you have opinions, the political system in this country is set up to where your opinions can be heard.  If you use the proper means of communication your opinion will be received in a much more positive light.  I'm sorry but burning any country's flag just plain pisses me off.





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From:  "dan sharp" <kode_@hotmail.com>
To:  trippy_pippi@yahoo.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject:  RE: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL
Date:  Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:51:21 -0600
>
>This is with out a doubt, the dumbest thing I have heard in a long 
>time..
>
>  Stay home, save your money and do something intelligent..
>
>             (0_o)
>
>better yet... Send the money to me.. I will use it properly..
>
>
>
>>From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL
>>Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:27:26 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>***FLAG BURNING RITUAL***
>>
>>NW Suburbs, IL
>>$30 divided by however many people want to come ($5, $1, $0.30???)
>>
>>
>>It's time to VISUALIZE our government's destruction. It's time to 
>>gather and discuss our future. It's time to dance to the 
>>disolvement Big Brother. We will see our future in the fire of our 
>>burning flag. Come and practice your Constitutional Rights!
>>
>>All those interested in joining us in burning the American Flag, 
>>email me. It costs $30 for a 3'x5' flag, so the more people who 
>>want to do this, the cheaper & more powerful it will be. I'm 
>>thinking maybe this weekend sometime...depends on your 
>>responses....
>>
>>I'll try to arrange some music, etc. If you have any ideas, let me 
>>know.
>>
>>
>>DIRECTIONS:  It'll be near Inverness, IL  (approx. 45min. from 
>>Chicago).
>>
>>
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> It is our right to burn the flag.
>=20
> It is also our right to overthrow our own government if it gains too much=
 control over its citizens. We founded this country on the basis that peopl=
e were running away from governments with too much control. That's why we m=
ade a "fool-proof" plan. Unfortunately, most citizens ignore that plan. It =
states in our country's papers that it is not only our right, but our DUTY =
to stop nonsense from running rampant on our rights. It is our duty to over=
throw the government if it becomes...well....what it has become.
>=20
> Burning the flag is a symbolic way of controlling what's happening. It ai=
ds the visualization process. If we're all worrying about the government co=
ntrolling us and overstepping their boundries, it will not help the situati=
on. If we shift our thinking into a hopeful view of our country's future, w=
e have a better chance at coming up with solutions.

I'd have to say I agree with the above. Seriously if its illegal to
burn the flag, thats tantamount to saying that a physical cloth symbol
is more important than that which is symbolizes.  I can't fathom how
people don't understand this or how people want to ammend the
constitution to change this, might as well set fire to the bill of
rights.

-Tad

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burning the flag is a symbolic way of demonstrating that you're a dumbass.
 seriously, at the end of the day, you've accomplished nothing. how about=
=20
trying some constructive action? nobody looks at a flag burning and goes=20
"holy shit, look at the mess we've gotten ourselves into. let's leave iraq=
=20
today and impeach bush tomorrow. what the hell were we thinking?!"
 the first amendment is beautiful, but only if you use it in a=20
*constructive* and *effective* way. at the end of the day, you burn the=20
flag, you've got a pile of ashes and a fucking headache. or, as someone i=
=20
dearly admire once put it "you've got a wish in one hand, and shit in the=
=20
other."
 grow up.
a*
 ps...i love how you feel so strongly about it, but not strongly enough to=
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give up one fucking rave to do it. you sound truly commited to effecting=20
real change.


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> It is our right to burn the flag.
>=20
> Burning the flag is a symbolic way of controlling what's happening. It=20
> aids the visualization process. It will not help the situation.
>=20
> By burning it, we clense our minds.

=20
It won't be this weekend. I realized after my email yesturday that there's=
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stoned to think twice about burning the flag. Maybe I am too.

I just think that burning the flag can help me think.

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what list is this again?




On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, amy wrote:

> burning the flag is a symbolic way of demonstrating that you're a dumbass.
> seriously, at the end of the day, you've accomplished nothing. how about
> trying some constructive action? nobody looks at a flag burning and goes
> "holy shit, look at the mess we've gotten ourselves into. let's leave iraq
> today and impeach bush tomorrow. what the hell were we thinking?!"
> the first amendment is beautiful, but only if you use it in a
> *constructive* and *effective* way. at the end of the day, you burn the
> flag, you've got a pile of ashes and a fucking headache. or, as someone i
> dearly admire once put it "you've got a wish in one hand, and shit in the
> other."
> grow up.
> a*
> ps...i love how you feel so strongly about it, but not strongly enough to
> give up one fucking rave to do it. you sound truly commited to effecting
> real change.
>
>
> On 8/23/05, Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is our right to burn the flag.
>>
>> Burning the flag is a symbolic way of controlling what's happening. It
>> aids the visualization process. It will not help the situation.
>>
>> By burning it, we clense our minds.
>
>
> It won't be this weekend. I realized after my email yesturday that there's
> not enough time, plus I forgot about DREAMFIELDS. Maybe the hippies were too
> stoned to think twice about burning the flag. Maybe I am too.
>
> I just think that burning the flag can help me think.
>

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that was a serious contender for best one-liner.

ever.

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Derek Plaslaiko. wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> what list is this again?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, amy wrote:
>
>> burning the flag is a symbolic way of demonstrating that you're a dumbass.
>> seriously, at the end of the day, you've accomplished nothing. how about
>> trying some constructive action? nobody looks at a flag burning and goes
>> "holy shit, look at the mess we've gotten ourselves into. let's leave iraq
>> today and impeach bush tomorrow. what the hell were we thinking?!"
>> the first amendment is beautiful, but only if you use it in a
>> *constructive* and *effective* way. at the end of the day, you burn the
>> flag, you've got a pile of ashes and a fucking headache. or, as someone i
>> dearly admire once put it "you've got a wish in one hand, and shit in the
>> other."
>> grow up.
>> a*
>> ps...i love how you feel so strongly about it, but not strongly enough to
>> give up one fucking rave to do it. you sound truly commited to effecting
>> real change.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/23/05, Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is our right to burn the flag.
>>> 
>>> Burning the flag is a symbolic way of controlling what's happening. It
>>> aids the visualization process. It will not help the situation.
>>> 
>>> By burning it, we clense our minds.
>> 
>> 
>> It won't be this weekend. I realized after my email yesturday that there's
>> not enough time, plus I forgot about DREAMFIELDS. Maybe the hippies were too
>> stoned to think twice about burning the flag. Maybe I am too.
>> 
>> I just think that burning the flag can help me think.
>> 
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>Burning the flag is our RIGHT.

It most certainly is. It's also not very profound, interesting, or 
productive in terms of activism. It certainly isn't going to win the support 
of anyone who isn't on your side of the issue. But, if it makes you feel 
like you're helping fix the system when you burn a flag, then please, go for 
it.

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What the hell is happening in that state right now?

Militarized rave bust
Thousands protest Bush
Salt Lake city mayor addresses protesters!
Oil at record price

Shit.

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"This is a revolution, dammit, we're going to have to offend somebody."
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First of all, burning stickers and pins full of plastic is pollutive to the air and I'm not about to fill my lungs full of carcinogins on purpose (except for my cigarettes, which I'm trying to quit), but I appreciate where you're coming from, Jon.
 
I say "eventually I'm gonna burn the fucker" to be ironic. Irony is something I learned about in school, and I have much admiration for it. (Okay, I'm getting a little mean, sorry.) The statement also emphasises the fact that I'm doing it whether anyone joins or not. It's not like a couple people want to, but can't cuz a whole bunch of people don't, come on ahead. I was going to do it on Monday when I found out about the Utah thing, but seeing as how flags are $30 and others might be interested, it was more inclusive of me to see if others would join. It could cost nearly nothing. And some of my friends are *very good* DJs. Just trying to get my hands on a generator is taking some time. Also, I like excitement. The more the merrier.
 
Regarding left-wing/right-wing politics: I am on no one's side but my own. One thing is not completely right or completely wrong. That's not how the world works. There are merely different degrees of rightness and wrongness. And usually things have a little of both. I declare no side except my own, therefore, I tarnish no one's IMAGE. I could care less about my own; I just do what makes me happy. I merely do what I think is right. Granted, sometimes people make mistakes, but they're there to be made so that lessons can be learned and progress made.
 
But essentially, burning the flag is an instict I get when I put my eyes to the skies.
 
Contending with my leaders is near to impossible. Don't get me wrong, if I had the chance to sit down with Bush, boy would he hear a number....I'd probably be snuffed in my sleep that very night. Writing letters, holding rallies....sometimes it can make a difference. But I'm not ready to be targetted by my letters like my mother was and I'm not into holding rallies anymore (it's too provoking, cops love to fuck with that). I'm not looking to _externalize_ my "issues"; my goal is to take it into my heart and change it with my hope, change it in my mind. I want to fully visualize a governmental transformation. I want to envision what it is that I want in this country (because I love the country and it's people, not "Big Brother" - call that what you will, it all depends on what your take of patriotism is). I have found that my Perspective on things duly dictates what is to Be.
 
AND MAKING A COZY FIRE IN THE AUTUMN AFTERNOON, accompanied by music I adore, good people who share a similar view, and burning the American flag seems like a good idea. 
 
Regarding Amy's post:
 
Of course I would not want to conflict with another rave. That wouldn't be very effective at all. Gathering together with people in the name of music, dance, and creativity is a great portion of what I live for. Maybe all you see in a fire is fire(?), but I see much more than that. There's a magick and a mystery in it. It's the loophole of biology - it defies explanation. Every "field" has a loophole - math has infinity, physics has its quarks, etc. I think visualization is a much more effective way to change things than screaming off the top of my lungs with a banner. I can't change other people forcefully. I can only change myself and the energy I project to others. Kicking my feet to the ground because my "rally" didn't do much is no way to change things. It only serves to raise my levels of frustration and leave me with a sore throat. I'm One for staring into the fire and dancing with the wind. I love the Kachina. I expand my mind to expand my world. Never the reverse.
 
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Did the white horse of conquering have a sister?



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>From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL
>Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
>
>First of all, burning stickers and pins full of plastic is pollutive to the 
>air and I'm not about to fill my lungs full of carcinogins on purpose 
>(except for my cigarettes, which I'm trying to quit), but I appreciate 
>where you're coming from, Jon.
>
>I say "eventually I'm gonna burn the fucker" to be ironic. Irony is 
>something I learned about in school, and I have much admiration for it. 
>(Okay, I'm getting a little mean, sorry.) The statement also emphasises the 
>fact that I'm doing it whether anyone joins or not. It's not like a couple 
>people want to, but can't cuz a whole bunch of people don't, come on ahead. 
>I was going to do it on Monday when I found out about the Utah thing, but 
>seeing as how flags are $30 and others might be interested, it was more 
>inclusive of me to see if others would join. It could cost nearly nothing. 
>And some of my friends are *very good* DJs. Just trying to get my hands on 
>a generator is taking some time. Also, I like excitement. The more the 
>merrier.
>
>Regarding left-wing/right-wing politics: I am on no one's side but my own. 
>One thing is not completely right or completely wrong. That's not how the 
>world works. There are merely different degrees of rightness and wrongness. 
>And usually things have a little of both. I declare no side except my own, 
>therefore, I tarnish no one's IMAGE. I could care less about my own; I just 
>do what makes me happy. I merely do what I think is right. Granted, 
>sometimes people make mistakes, but they're there to be made so that 
>lessons can be learned and progress made.
>
>But essentially, burning the flag is an instict I get when I put my eyes to 
>the skies.
>
>Contending with my leaders is near to impossible. Don't get me wrong, if I 
>had the chance to sit down with Bush, boy would he hear a number....I'd 
>probably be snuffed in my sleep that very night. Writing letters, holding 
>rallies....sometimes it can make a difference. But I'm not ready to be 
>targetted by my letters like my mother was and I'm not into holding rallies 
>anymore (it's too provoking, cops love to fuck with that). I'm not looking 
>to _externalize_ my "issues"; my goal is to take it into my heart and 
>change it with my hope, change it in my mind. I want to fully visualize a 
>governmental transformation. I want to envision what it is that I want in 
>this country (because I love the country and it's people, not "Big Brother" 
>- call that what you will, it all depends on what your take of patriotism 
>is). I have found that my Perspective on things duly dictates what is to 
>Be.
>
>AND MAKING A COZY FIRE IN THE AUTUMN AFTERNOON, accompanied by music I 
>adore, good people who share a similar view, and burning the American flag 
>seems like a good idea.
>
>Regarding Amy's post:
>
>Of course I would not want to conflict with another rave. That wouldn't be 
>very effective at all. Gathering together with people in the name of music, 
>dance, and creativity is a great portion of what I live for. Maybe all you 
>see in a fire is fire(?), but I see much more than that. There's a magick 
>and a mystery in it. It's the loophole of biology - it defies explanation. 
>Every "field" has a loophole - math has infinity, physics has its quarks, 
>etc. I think visualization is a much more effective way to change things 
>than screaming off the top of my lungs with a banner. I can't change other 
>people forcefully. I can only change myself and the energy I project to 
>others. Kicking my feet to the ground because my "rally" didn't do much is 
>no way to change things. It only serves to raise my levels of frustration 
>and leave me with a sore throat. I'm One for staring into the fire and 
>dancing with the wind. I love the Kachina. I expand my mind to expand my 
>world. Never the reverse.
>
>***********
>You can't squeaze the whole planet through a buttonhole unless you take it 
>one scoop at a time......eventually it will run through~~~~~like the sands 
>of an hourglass.....to the other side.
>***********
>
>Peace!
>
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________
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On Aug 24, 2005, at 5:41 PM, dan sharp wrote:

> Did the white horse of conquering have a sister?

SSSHHHHhhhhh!!!

You'll SUMMON him!

(fyi, I haven't seen him on-line in ages.. that's the only reason I  
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yeah, don't you remember? she works for microsoft. pfft!* don't you pay=20
attention?


 On 8/24/05, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:=20
>=20
> Did the white horse of conquering have a sister?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> (0_o)
>=20
>=20
> >From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL
> >Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >First of all, burning stickers and pins full of plastic is pollutive to=
=20
> the
> >air and I'm not about to fill my lungs full of carcinogins on purpose
> >(except for my cigarettes, which I'm trying to quit), but I appreciate
> >where you're coming from, Jon.
> >
> >I say "eventually I'm gonna burn the fucker" to be ironic. Irony is
> >something I learned about in school, and I have much admiration for it.
> >(Okay, I'm getting a little mean, sorry.) The statement also emphasises=
=20
> the
> >fact that I'm doing it whether anyone joins or not. It's not like a=20
> couple
> >people want to, but can't cuz a whole bunch of people don't, come on=20
> ahead.
> >I was going to do it on Monday when I found out about the Utah thing, bu=
t
> >seeing as how flags are $30 and others might be interested, it was more
> >inclusive of me to see if others would join. It could cost nearly=20
> nothing.
> >And some of my friends are *very good* DJs. Just trying to get my hands=
=20
> on
> >a generator is taking some time. Also, I like excitement. The more the
> >merrier.
> >
> >Regarding left-wing/right-wing politics: I am on no one's side but my=20
> own.
> >One thing is not completely right or completely wrong. That's not how th=
e
> >world works. There are merely different degrees of rightness and=20
> wrongness.
> >And usually things have a little of both. I declare no side except my=20
> own,
> >therefore, I tarnish no one's IMAGE. I could care less about my own; I=
=20
> just
> >do what makes me happy. I merely do what I think is right. Granted,
> >sometimes people make mistakes, but they're there to be made so that
> >lessons can be learned and progress made.
> >
> >But essentially, burning the flag is an instict I get when I put my eyes=
=20
> to
> >the skies.
> >
> >Contending with my leaders is near to impossible. Don't get me wrong, if=
=20
> I
> >had the chance to sit down with Bush, boy would he hear a number....I'd
> >probably be snuffed in my sleep that very night. Writing letters, holdin=
g
> >rallies....sometimes it can make a difference. But I'm not ready to be
> >targetted by my letters like my mother was and I'm not into holding=20
> rallies
> >anymore (it's too provoking, cops love to fuck with that). I'm not=20
> looking
> >to _externalize_ my "issues"; my goal is to take it into my heart and
> >change it with my hope, change it in my mind. I want to fully visualize =
a
> >governmental transformation. I want to envision what it is that I want i=
n
> >this country (because I love the country and it's people, not "Big=20
> Brother"
> >- call that what you will, it all depends on what your take of patriotis=
m
> >is). I have found that my Perspective on things duly dictates what is to
> >Be.
> >
> >AND MAKING A COZY FIRE IN THE AUTUMN AFTERNOON, accompanied by music I
> >adore, good people who share a similar view, and burning the American=20
> flag
> >seems like a good idea.
> >
> >Regarding Amy's post:
> >
> >Of course I would not want to conflict with another rave. That wouldn't=
=20
> be
> >very effective at all. Gathering together with people in the name of=20
> music,
> >dance, and creativity is a great portion of what I live for. Maybe all=
=20
> you
> >see in a fire is fire(?), but I see much more than that. There's a magic=
k
> >and a mystery in it. It's the loophole of biology - it defies=20
> explanation.
> >Every "field" has a loophole - math has infinity, physics has its quarks=
,
> >etc. I think visualization is a much more effective way to change things
> >than screaming off the top of my lungs with a banner. I can't change=20
> other
> >people forcefully. I can only change myself and the energy I project to
> >others. Kicking my feet to the ground because my "rally" didn't do much=
=20
> is
> >no way to change things. It only serves to raise my levels of frustratio=
n
> >and leave me with a sore throat. I'm One for staring into the fire and
> >dancing with the wind. I love the Kachina. I expand my mind to expand my
> >world. Never the reverse.
> >
> >***********
> >You can't squeaze the whole planet through a buttonhole unless you take=
=20
> it
> >one scoop at a time......eventually it will run through~~~~~like the=20
> sands
> >of an hourglass.....to the other side.
> >***********
> >
> >Peace!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >__________________________________________________
> >Do You Yahoo!?
> >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> >http://mail.yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL

He's either in an institution... or  maybe he wandered off into the
wilderness (one can only hope).



On 8/24/05, amy <metrobabylon@gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, don't you remember? she works for microsoft. pfft!* don't you pay
> attention?
>=20
>=20
>  On 8/24/05, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Did the white horse of conquering have a sister?
> >
> >
> >
> > (0_o)
> >
> >
> > >From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
> > >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] FLAG BURNING RITUAL
> > >Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >First of all, burning stickers and pins full of plastic is pollutive t=
o
> > the
> > >air and I'm not about to fill my lungs full of carcinogins on purpose
> > >(except for my cigarettes, which I'm trying to quit), but I appreciate
> > >where you're coming from, Jon.
> > >
> > >I say "eventually I'm gonna burn the fucker" to be ironic. Irony is
> > >something I learned about in school, and I have much admiration for it=
.
> > >(Okay, I'm getting a little mean, sorry.) The statement also emphasise=
s
> > the
> > >fact that I'm doing it whether anyone joins or not. It's not like a
> > couple
> > >people want to, but can't cuz a whole bunch of people don't, come on
> > ahead.
> > >I was going to do it on Monday when I found out about the Utah thing, =
but
> > >seeing as how flags are $30 and others might be interested, it was mor=
e
> > >inclusive of me to see if others would join. It could cost nearly
> > nothing.
> > >And some of my friends are *very good* DJs. Just trying to get my hand=
s
> > on
> > >a generator is taking some time. Also, I like excitement. The more the
> > >merrier.
> > >
> > >Regarding left-wing/right-wing politics: I am on no one's side but my
> > own.
> > >One thing is not completely right or completely wrong. That's not how =
the
> > >world works. There are merely different degrees of rightness and
> > wrongness.
> > >And usually things have a little of both. I declare no side except my
> > own,
> > >therefore, I tarnish no one's IMAGE. I could care less about my own; I
> > just
> > >do what makes me happy. I merely do what I think is right. Granted,
> > >sometimes people make mistakes, but they're there to be made so that
> > >lessons can be learned and progress made.
> > >
> > >But essentially, burning the flag is an instict I get when I put my ey=
es
> > to
> > >the skies.
> > >
> > >Contending with my leaders is near to impossible. Don't get me wrong, =
if
> > I
> > >had the chance to sit down with Bush, boy would he hear a number....I'=
d
> > >probably be snuffed in my sleep that very night. Writing letters, hold=
ing
> > >rallies....sometimes it can make a difference. But I'm not ready to be
> > >targetted by my letters like my mother was and I'm not into holding
> > rallies
> > >anymore (it's too provoking, cops love to fuck with that). I'm not
> > looking
> > >to _externalize_ my "issues"; my goal is to take it into my heart and
> > >change it with my hope, change it in my mind. I want to fully visualiz=
e a
> > >governmental transformation. I want to envision what it is that I want=
 in
> > >this country (because I love the country and it's people, not "Big
> > Brother"
> > >- call that what you will, it all depends on what your take of patriot=
ism
> > >is). I have found that my Perspective on things duly dictates what is =
to
> > >Be.
> > >
> > >AND MAKING A COZY FIRE IN THE AUTUMN AFTERNOON, accompanied by music I
> > >adore, good people who share a similar view, and burning the American
> > flag
> > >seems like a good idea.
> > >
> > >Regarding Amy's post:
> > >
> > >Of course I would not want to conflict with another rave. That wouldn'=
t
> > be
> > >very effective at all. Gathering together with people in the name of
> > music,
> > >dance, and creativity is a great portion of what I live for. Maybe all
> > you
> > >see in a fire is fire(?), but I see much more than that. There's a mag=
ick
> > >and a mystery in it. It's the loophole of biology - it defies
> > explanation.
> > >Every "field" has a loophole - math has infinity, physics has its quar=
ks,
> > >etc. I think visualization is a much more effective way to change thin=
gs
> > >than screaming off the top of my lungs with a banner. I can't change
> > other
> > >people forcefully. I can only change myself and the energy I project t=
o
> > >others. Kicking my feet to the ground because my "rally" didn't do muc=
h
> > is
> > >no way to change things. It only serves to raise my levels of frustrat=
ion
> > >and leave me with a sore throat. I'm One for staring into the fire and
> > >dancing with the wind. I love the Kachina. I expand my mind to expand =
my
> > >world. Never the reverse.
> > >
> > >***********
> > >You can't squeaze the whole planet through a buttonhole unless you tak=
e
> > it
> > >one scoop at a time......eventually it will run through~~~~~like the
> > sands
> > >of an hourglass.....to the other side.
> > >***********
> > >
> > >Peace!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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Subject: [mw] more on the utah ordeal

Now is the time for action friends, we cannot let this faschist behavior
continue!!!! Do what u can even if it is only to warn a few people of the
possible violations of rights and personal freedoms that HAVE HAPPENED and
COULD QUITE POSSIBLY AGAIN HAPPEN IF NOTHING IS DONE ABOUT IT! So ask
yourself this, will u stand by and watch our rights as they blow away in
the wind or will u take action!!!!!!!!!!!


Official Statement and Information from the Promoters of Versus.

First off, we would like to thank all of the people who have come to our
side in the wake of this deplorable incident. We apologize for not being
able to provide you all with information faster. We are doing everything
we can for people who were affected by the actions of the police. We as
community have been underestimated. The finger has been waved about our
character and ability. Because of this, now is the time to stand up
together and show the world exactly how we don’t plan to take this lying
down and teach a couple old dogs a thing or two about what character is.
So, this is what we need to do…


To put a stop to any rumors, or false statements that have been cropping
up, we would like to clarify a couple of key issues.

* Was the party permitted?

Yes, period, end of story. Now for the reason this has been in question:
According to the county laws

(http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)

in Section 13-4-2-1:


Required.

No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
(250) or more people which continues or can
reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
property unless a license to hold the assembly has
first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)



It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
commissioner.


The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was NOT
to go over 12 hours. This is evidenced by the DJ’s time slots, and the
agreement between Performance Audio and Brandon Fullmer. The permit was
granted, and then seized by the Utah County police, clearly stated across
the top “Utah County Health Department Mass Gathering Permit.”

It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the Utah
County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
else may have been required by law.

* Were any individuals injured by the police?

This should be self-evident that this statement is true. However, the
issue needs to be addressed. The police have stated that no one was
injured. There is photo and video evidence to prove otherwise. This
evidence will be coming out in the press conference, which will be
occurring soon.

* Did the police use tazers?

Tazers were not used; however we have sufficient evidence and reason to
believe that STUN guns were present and allegedly used.

* Were dogs used to subdue party goers?

Yes, the K-9 units were present, and used in this operation. We have
testimonials and evidence to show that the dogs were used as frightening
motivational tools in evacuating the area plus you can distinctly hear
them in the video.

* Were cameras and videos broken or confiscated by the police?

This is true. We will provide photos and provide the actual cameras that
were destroyed in the “operation” at the press conference.

* Was Brandon Fullmer involved in promoting the event called Sequence?

No. For both Versus and Sequence, there is a promoter involved named
Brandon, however, they are NOT the same person. No question. This is being
addressed because the Utah County Sheriffs department seems to believe
these individuals are the same, when in fact they are not


* Did the police officers find any weapons?

Yes, the police did arrest and charge one person with possession of a
firearm. This individual in question was the land owner’s son, on his own
property.

* Did the police seize large amounts of drugs?

Police did seize illicit drugs; a large portion of the drugs seized were
drugs that the security officers had confiscated from event goers.
Admittedly, this is a sticky issue. Police say security should not have
those substances, but it is security’s job to keep the environment as safe
as possible from potential harmful situations.

* What are our feelings about police presence at these events?

Many times past we have hired off duty police officers to patrol and
attend these events as added security. There have also been many times
where police have come, and have walked through our parties. Had the
police even attempted to contact us before hand, they would have been a
welcome presence.

* Was this event a secret, only for people “in the know”?

ABSOLUTELY not! This event was in no way, shape or form a secret. It was a
highly publicized and promoted event. If this event had been a secret, or
a covert operation in any way, why were great lengths taken to obtain
permits? This event was no secret.

What are we as promoters doing about this situation?



1.We are currently working with legal representation to ensure we do not
get steamrolled by Utah County. We are working with Brian M. Barnard who
is considered to be one, if not the best civil rights attorney in the
state of Utah.

2.We have set up the web-site www.Music-Versus-Guns.org. This is taking a
bit longer than expected to set up the site properly due to the large
amount of interest in this situation. However, we are in the process of
making this a centralized site with information on a multitude of issues
pertaining to this particular incident. Please visit this site to learn
more about what happened and what you can do.

3. We are spending almost every waking hour to discuss this issue at
length with members of the media. We are trying to make sure that the
events of August 20th 2005 are reported on fairly. We are also trying to
educate as many people as possible of the true nature of these events,
this is difficult but we are working with a host of excellent reporters to
make sure the facts are strait.

Obviously, this is a lot of work, which is why we need your help and
continued support.


What can you do?



There are many different priorities with regards to what needs to happen,
and we would appreciate whatever help you can give in these areas.



1. If you attended the event and were allegedly attacked or assaulted by
the police.
You are priority NUMBER ONE right now. This is what we need from you
immediately:

a. We need written statements with explicit detail about everything.
>From the time you left your home, to when you got back home. Please try to
leave all speculation and personal opinions out of it. JUST THE FACTS!!!
Also, keep them as professional as possible; if you are not confident in
your writing skills, there are individuals who can assist you with this.
Leave your contact information and FULL name at the bottom; along with
addresses, phone numbers, email, etc. Contact information will not be made
public!

Please send these statements to: Dimitri801@comcast.net

Many of you have already written eloquent and detailed descriptions of
your night; thank you so much! We just ask that you add and/or edit
anything that may need it.

b. We ARE be willing to videotape these statements as well.

Your experiences of the evening are the heart of this matter and we know
that this may be a hard matter to discuss but the world needs to know that
you are a real person with a serious grievance. If you are interested and
willing to do this, please contact Dimitri at: (801) 577-8281 or by email
Dimitri801@comcast.net

We will require each individuals consent to post or use any of this material.

c. Most importantly if you took photo’s of any injuries, WE NEED COPIES
immediately!
There is a good guideline on how to document these injuries here:

http://www.flora.org/legal/legal_info/document_injuries.html -and-
http://www.fleschnerlaw.com/infolin...TING%20INJURIES

if you have not already done this. Bruises fade; cuts and wounds heal, and
the sooner this is captured the better off everyone is. If you did not
file a police report for any of your grievances out of intimidation or
fear; do it now, with them or the ACLU at: http://www.acluutah.org/ There
is a form located on the website where you can electronically file a
complaint against the police. The police seem to be very curious as to why
no one is willing to come in and report any alleged trauma or police
brutality to the police; please be sure to include any of your reasons
when you do this.


What if I made it out of the event unharmed and wasn’t harrased?


1. Congratulations, you are lucky.

However, you are still an eyewitness account of what happened, and we need
it. Once again, we are not interested in if you think the police involved
are unscrupulous and/or immoral, with the intent of maliciously stomping
on individual’s civil liberties. All we want are the FACTS about what you
saw. We need these accounts to directly refute the lies the police keep
reporting to the media. We have already caught some of their inaccuracies,
and need to keep doing just that. Please state everything that happened
the second you left home until the time you returned home. Include
everything you can, who was with you, times, and details. The sooner you
do this the better!!Just like wounds, memories fade – hop on this people!
Please include your full name and contact information; name, date,
telephone/fax numbers, addresses and send these statements to

Dimitri801@comcast.net –or- nadia_73@hotmail.com



2. Talk far and wide.

Do everything in your power to make sure every human being on the face of
the planet hears you. This is not just about an event, it is about freedom
and civil liberties; it is also about the police overstepping their bounds
and justifying it however they please. Once you start talking… do not ever
shut up. If this is what happens today, and people stay silent, what will
the police think they can get away with tomorrow? Silence will encourage
their negative behavior.


To the people who were not in attendance



1. Be it local or international, it does not matter; WE NEED YOUR HELP!
Not only to spread the truthful word about what happened, but to do
whatever possible thing you can assist us with. People in the media,
public relations, internet related business, people who can provide
additional legal help, financial assistance, or people willing to help
with leg work are of great necessity to us, please contact
Loki801@comcast.net –or- Dimitri801@comcast.net All other music and event
lovers keep talking! You have our never ending gratitude, you guys are so
amazing!

Ultimately to prevent something like this ever happening again, it is up
to ALL OF US. We must have teamwork and solidarity – having unity goes
without saying. This fight is neither going to be short nor easy; we want
to ensure that it is not you who needs our help someday. In order to have
good teamwork, we need to be able to communicate so please visit the
website, do what you can do, and please feel free to contact the people
below as needed.

Contact Information


Brandon Fullmer Loki801@comcast.net
Phone; (801) 363-7955 Fax (801) 363-7943


For all matters related to needed legal statements contact-
Dimitri Mumulidisz Dimitri801@comcast.net
Phone: (801) 577-8281

For all internet related issues -
Nadia Nadia_73@hotmail.com

For all press related issues please contact-
Justin Kahn rockstar_con@hotmail.com
Phone: (801) 755-9300


There are others who are helping as well; we will get their contact
information up promptly.


The Websites



www.Music-Versus-Guns.org

www.Utrave.org


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>=20
> No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
> advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
> manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
> reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> (250) or more people which continues or can
> reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
> more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
> property unless a license to hold the assembly has
> first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
> No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
> consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
> commissioner.
>=20

Unfortunately with an "OR" you only need to satisfy one of the
conditions... which it appears they did.    But fortunately the way I
read the actual ordinance its not saying 250 or lasting than twelve
hours. It is saying:

has an attendance of more than 250 or more people which (note: this
implys a logical "AND") continues or could be expected to continue
more than 12 hours...

The "could be expected" gives a fair amount of leeway and is it what
would need to be argued.  I have little doubt that 250 or more people
would be present for 12 consecutive hours and that should be a given,
but if the event started at 9pm would there still be people there at
9am? probably?


/IANAL (I hope the promoters get some decent ones)
//However I am a software engineer and understand the meaning of and's and =
or's.
-Tad

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Anyone who uses "logical ands" for anything but Ip addressing from this 
point forward will be shot.

  (0_o)


>From: Tad Dicks <tad604@gmail.com>
>To: "trout@pornstarstyle.com" <trout@pornstarstyle.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] more on the utah ordeal
>Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:51:23 -0400
>
> >
> > No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
> > advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
> > manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
> > reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> > (250) or more people which continues or can
> > reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
> > more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
> > property unless a license to hold the assembly has
> > first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
> > No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
> >
> >
> >
> > It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
> > consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
> > commissioner.
> >
>
>Unfortunately with an "OR" you only need to satisfy one of the
>conditions... which it appears they did.    But fortunately the way I
>read the actual ordinance its not saying 250 or lasting than twelve
>hours. It is saying:
>
>has an attendance of more than 250 or more people which (note: this
>implys a logical "AND") continues or could be expected to continue
>more than 12 hours...
>
>The "could be expected" gives a fair amount of leeway and is it what
>would need to be argued.  I have little doubt that 250 or more people
>would be present for 12 consecutive hours and that should be a given,
>but if the event started at 9pm would there still be people there at
>9am? probably?
>
>
>/IANAL (I hope the promoters get some decent ones)
>//However I am a software engineer and understand the meaning of and's and 
>or's.
>-Tad
>
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You're absolutely right... its more efficient to use nands(at least
when making chips) wtf was I thinking.


mmmm nachos.


On 8/25/05, dan sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone who uses "logical ands" for anything but Ip addressing from this
> point forward will be shot.
>=20
>   (0_o)
>=20
>=20
> >From: Tad Dicks <tad604@gmail.com>
> >To: "trout@pornstarstyle.com" <trout@pornstarstyle.com>
> >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] more on the utah ordeal
> >Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:51:23 -0400
> >
> > >
> > > No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
> > > advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
> > > manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
> > > reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> > > (250) or more people which continues or can
> > > reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
> > > more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
> > > property unless a license to hold the assembly has
> > > first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
> > > No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
> > > consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
> > > commissioner.
> > >
> >
> >Unfortunately with an "OR" you only need to satisfy one of the
> >conditions... which it appears they did.    But fortunately the way I
> >read the actual ordinance its not saying 250 or lasting than twelve
> >hours. It is saying:
> >
> >has an attendance of more than 250 or more people which (note: this
> >implys a logical "AND") continues or could be expected to continue
> >more than 12 hours...
> >
> >The "could be expected" gives a fair amount of leeway and is it what
> >would need to be argued.  I have little doubt that 250 or more people
> >would be present for 12 consecutive hours and that should be a given,
> >but if the event started at 9pm would there still be people there at
> >9am? probably?
> >
> >
> >/IANAL (I hope the promoters get some decent ones)
> >//However I am a software engineer and understand the meaning of and's a=
nd
> >or's.
> >-Tad
> >
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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:40:56 -0400, <trout@pornstarstyle.com> wrote:


> * Was the party permitted?
>
> Yes, period, end of story.


Lies.


> Now for the reason this has been in question:
> According to the county laws
>
> (http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)
>
> in Section 13-4-2-1:
>
>
> Required.
>
> No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
> advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
> manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
> reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> (250) or more people which continues or can
> reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
> more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
> property unless a license to hold the assembly has
> first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
> No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
>
>
>
> It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
> consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
> commissioner.
>
>
> The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was NOT
> to go over 12 hours.


It's an OR statement, not an AND statement.  It went over 250 people, so  
you needed the permit, even if it was a 1 hour party.


> It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the  
> Utah
> County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
> else may have been required by law.


Ignorance of the law is no excuse.


The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.





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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

DJ Entropoopy wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:40:56 -0400, <trout@pornstarstyle.com> wrote:
>
>> * Was the party permitted?
>> Yes, period, end of story.
>
> Lies. 


phew!  i'm glad i have a first hand account from someone who was there 
in utah county!

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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

Wow not only does your music suck but your reading comprehension is on
par with Utah rave promoters (who still managed to garner the correct
meaning despite mangling).

Either that... or you willing to take said rave promoters
interpretation of the law and not actually read it.  Either way

Lets break down the law shall we:

>anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> (250) or more people=20

250 or more people...

thats like saying:

( attendance =3D=3D 250 || attendance > 250)

Me I would write: attendance >=3D 250  but I'm not a lawyer.

Now the next part:

>which continues or can
> reasonably be expected to
> continue for twelve (12) or
> more consecutive hours

thats like saying:

&&  (( length =3D=3D 12 ||  length > 12)  || ( expectedLength =3D=3D 12  ||
expectedLength > 12)


So when we finish we get:

( attendance =3D=3D 250 || attendance > 250)  &&  (( length =3D=3D 12 ||=20
length > 12)  || ( expectedLength =3D=3D 12  || expectedLength > 12)


For this to return true  we need both statements on either side of the
"&&" to be true.
No one disputes the first part as being true.=20

So we just need to get an affirmative from the right side.
Well the party most certainly did not last 12 hours did it?  I don't
think anyone will dispute that part will they?
so we have :   True and (false or ?)
Was the party expected to last 12 hours or more?  well our little
equation rests solely on that fact,  oh wait excuse me its an opinion
something that gets decided by a judge/jury and not lame-ass hardcore
djs on mw-raves, so go STFU.

thanks for playing,
Tad

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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:

>
> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>
>
> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>

... like posting illegal torrents on your personal web site you douche bag:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/djentropy/179975.html

oh wait -- you are a republican, that's why you are hypocritical and have
fair-weather ethics.

-qk.


Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:40:56 -0400, <trout@pornstarstyle.com> wrote:
>
>
> > * Was the party permitted?
> >
> > Yes, period, end of story.
>
>
> Lies.
>
>
> > Now for the reason this has been in question:
> > According to the county laws
> >
> > (http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)
> >
> > in Section 13-4-2-1:
> >
> >
> > Required.
> >
> > No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
> > advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
> > manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
> > reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> > (250) or more people which continues or can
> > reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
> > more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
> > property unless a license to hold the assembly has
> > first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
> > No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
> >
> >
> >
> > It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
> > consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
> > commissioner.
> >
> >
> > The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was NOT
> > to go over 12 hours.
>
>
> It's an OR statement, not an AND statement.  It went over 250 people, so
> you needed the permit, even if it was a 1 hour party.
>
>
> > It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the
> > Utah
> > County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
> > else may have been required by law.
>
>
> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>
>
> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------
> DJ Entropy
> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
> http://www.djentropy.com
> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>
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> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this
> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and
> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
> Santorum
>
> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bush
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:51:17 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:

> Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>
>>
>> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>>
>>
>> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>>
>
> ... like posting illegal torrents on your personal web site you douche  
> bag:
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/djentropy/179975.html
>
> oh wait -- you are a republican, that's why you are hypocritical and have
> fair-weather ethics.


Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for me to  
do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something bad  
too!  And you suck!"

Can't expect much more from ravers.




Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website, from  
what I understand.










> Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:40:56 -0400, <trout@pornstarstyle.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > * Was the party permitted?
>> >
>> > Yes, period, end of story.
>>
>>
>> Lies.
>>
>>
>> > Now for the reason this has been in question:
>> > According to the county laws
>> >
>> > (http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)
>> >
>> > in Section 13-4-2-1:
>> >
>> >
>> > Required.
>> >
>> > No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
>> > advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
>> > manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
>> > reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
>> > (250) or more people which continues or can
>> > reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
>> > more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
>> > property unless a license to hold the assembly has
>> > first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
>> > No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
>> > consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
>> > commissioner.
>> >
>> >
>> > The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was  
>> NOT
>> > to go over 12 hours.
>>
>>
>> It's an OR statement, not an AND statement.  It went over 250 people, so
>> you needed the permit, even if it was a 1 hour party.
>>
>>
>> > It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the
>> > Utah
>> > County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
>> > else may have been required by law.
>>
>>
>> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>>
>>
>> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------
>> DJ Entropy
>> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>> http://www.djentropy.com
>> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>>
>> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
>> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for  
>> this
>> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political  
>> and
>> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
>> Santorum
>>
>> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.  
>> Bush
>>
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http://www.djentropy.com
http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy

"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is  
sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this  
scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
Santorum

"It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bush

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Subject: RE: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

I realize it's damn near impossible to argue with somebody of such high 
moral fiber, but...

You honestly believe the sort of behavior by those militarized police was 
warented and appropriate?  You don't feel at all like the police behavior 
was excessive?  Regardless of whatever "spin" you feel the promoters are 
trying to put on, you can clearly see police violence on the video.  I'm 
just curious how somebody like yourself can rationalize unprovoked violent 
behavior.

If you don't typically rationalize things, that's ok.  Just go back to 
freerepublic.com and the feeling will slowly fade away...

/ryan

>>* Was the party permitted?
>>
>>Yes, period, end of story.
>
>
>Lies.
>
>
>>Now for the reason this has been in question:
>>According to the county laws
>>
>>(http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)
>>
>>in Section 13-4-2-1:
>>
>>
>>Required.
>>
>>No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
>>advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
>>manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
>>reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
>>(250) or more people which continues or can
>>reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
>>more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
>>property unless a license to hold the assembly has
>>first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
>>No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
>>
>>
>>
>>It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
>>consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
>>commissioner.
>>
>>
>>The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was NOT
>>to go over 12 hours.
>
>
>It's an OR statement, not an AND statement.  It went over 250 people, so  
>you needed the permit, even if it was a 1 hour party.
>
>
>>It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the  
>>Utah
>>County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
>>else may have been required by law.
>
>
>Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>
>
>The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>----------
>DJ Entropy
>America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>http://www.djentropy.com
>http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>
>"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is  
>sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this  
>scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
>cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
>Santorum
>
>"It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bush
>
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> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for me to
> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something bad
> too!  And you suck!"
>
> Can't expect much more from ravers.
>
> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website, from
> what I understand.
>

you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.

i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems to be legal
from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you, jerk off.

> >> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.

so stringent before, now so murky. who is spinning now.

> Can't expect much more from ravers.

i wouldn't consider myself 'a raver' but, i am an air force firefigther. so
quick to judge.

-qk.

Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:

> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:51:17 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:
>
> > Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
> >
> >>
> >> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
> >>
> >>
> >> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
> >>
> >
> > ... like posting illegal torrents on your personal web site you douche
> > bag:
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/djentropy/179975.html
> >
> > oh wait -- you are a republican, that's why you are hypocritical and have
> > fair-weather ethics.
>
>
> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for me to
> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something bad
> too!  And you suck!"
>
> Can't expect much more from ravers.
>
>
>
>
> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website, from
> what I understand.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
> >
> >> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:40:56 -0400, <trout@pornstarstyle.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > * Was the party permitted?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, period, end of story.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lies.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Now for the reason this has been in question:
> >> > According to the county laws
> >> >
> >> > (http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)
> >> >
> >> > in Section 13-4-2-1:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Required.
> >> >
> >> > No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
> >> > advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
> >> > manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
> >> > reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
> >> > (250) or more people which continues or can
> >> > reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
> >> > more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
> >> > property unless a license to hold the assembly has
> >> > first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
> >> > No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
> >> > consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
> >> > commissioner.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was
> >> NOT
> >> > to go over 12 hours.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's an OR statement, not an AND statement.  It went over 250 people, so
> >> you needed the permit, even if it was a 1 hour party.
> >>
> >>
> >> > It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the
> >> > Utah
> >> > County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
> >> > else may have been required by law.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
> >>
> >>
> >> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ----------
> >> DJ Entropy
> >> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
> >> http://www.djentropy.com
> >> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
> >>
> >> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
> >> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for
> >> this
> >> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political
> >> and
> >> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
> >> Santorum
> >>
> >> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.
> >> Bush
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> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and
> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:25:09 -0400, Ryan Summers  
<plasticportal@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I realize it's damn near impossible to argue with somebody of such high  
> moral fiber, but...
>
> You honestly believe the sort of behavior by those militarized police  
> was warented and appropriate?


Yes.


> You don't feel at all like the police behavior was excessive?


No.


> Regardless of whatever "spin" you feel the promoters are trying to put  
> on, you can clearly see police violence on the video.


As I said elsewhere, I see one person getting restrained in that video,  
most likely for resisting arrest (as ravers/young people/drugged up idiots  
tend to do) or talking back.






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cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
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I think we've all surpassed DJ Entropy's obvious desperate cry for help. He's SssssssttTucKkkk in a neverending K-HOLE, thus the Entropy. Okay Grumpy...
 
Eat a bag o' Golden Teachers accompanied by Smurfs reruns and call it a day shall we?!   ; )
 
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DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:51:17 -0400, Quinn Madson wrote:

> Quoting DJ Entropy :
>
>>
>> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>>
>>
>> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>>
>
> ... like posting illegal torrents on your personal web site you douche 
> bag:
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/djentropy/179975.html
>
> oh wait -- you are a republican, that's why you are hypocritical and have
> fair-weather ethics.


Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack. "It's okay for me to 
do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something bad 
too! And you suck!"

Can't expect much more from ravers.




Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website, from 
what I understand.










> Quoting DJ Entropy :
>
>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:40:56 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>
>> > * Was the party permitted?
>> >
>> > Yes, period, end of story.
>>
>>
>> Lies.
>>
>>
>> > Now for the reason this has been in question:
>> > According to the county laws
>> >
>> > (http://www.utahcountyonline.com/app...ATTY/Chap13.pdf)
>> >
>> > in Section 13-4-2-1:
>> >
>> >
>> > Required.
>> >
>> > No person shall permit, maintain, promote, conduct,
>> > advertise, act as entrepreneur, undertake, organize,
>> > manage, or sell or give tickets to an actual or
>> > reasonably anticipated assembly of two hundred fifty
>> > (250) or more people which continues or can
>> > reasonably be expected to continue for twelve (12) or
>> > more consecutive hours, whether on public or private
>> > property unless a license to hold the assembly has
>> > first been issued by the County Commissioners. (Ord.
>> > No. 1971-4, Section 2, 7-7-71) (emphasis added)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It states that if the party was to exceed 250 people OR go over 12
>> > consecutive hours we would have needed to clear it with the county
>> > commissioner.
>> >
>> >
>> > The FACT is, that although the party was to exceed 250 people, it was 
>> NOT
>> > to go over 12 hours.
>>
>>
>> It's an OR statement, not an AND statement. It went over 250 people, so
>> you needed the permit, even if it was a 1 hour party.
>>
>>
>> > It was not made clear by any employee of Utah County or member of the
>> > Utah
>> > County Sheriffs Depatment at any time prior to the event that anything
>> > else may have been required by law.
>>
>>
>> Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
>>
>>
>> The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------
>> DJ Entropy
>> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>> http://www.djentropy.com
>> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>>
>> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture. When the culture is
>> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for 
>> this
>> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political 
>> and
>> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
>> Santorum
>>
>> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. 
>> Bush
>>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:

>> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for me  
>> to
>> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something  
>> bad
>> too!  And you suck!"
>>
>> Can't expect much more from ravers.
>>
>> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website, from
>> what I understand.
>>
>
> you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
>
> i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems to be  
> legal
> from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you, jerk  
> off.


Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,  
because liberals are always wrong on the issue.





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scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,
> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.

how right you are. conservatives have never done it *cough*swiftvets*cough*.
they even do character assination on their own (john mccain).

stop trying to label me. stop trying to see everything as right and wrong. they
are opinions.

i digress.

looke-here Dj Cookie Cutter Generic Name, you are missing the point which is:
don't act so high and mighty when there are skeletons in your closet.

-qk.

Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:

> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:
>
> >> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for me
> >> to
> >> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something
> >> bad
> >> too!  And you suck!"
> >>
> >> Can't expect much more from ravers.
> >>
> >> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website, from
> >> what I understand.
> >>
> >
> > you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
> >
> > i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems to be
> > legal
> > from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you, jerk
> > off.
>
>
> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,
> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------
> DJ Entropy
> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
> http://www.djentropy.com
> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>
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> Santorum
>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:43:18 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:

>> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,
>> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>
> how right you are. conservatives have never done it  
> *cough*swiftvets*cough*.


Errrr, you're joking right?


> they even do character assination on their own (john mccain).


John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We  
Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.


> stop trying to label me. stop trying to see everything as right and  
> wrong. they
> are opinions.


There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind like  
yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral  
relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.


> i digress.
>
> looke-here Dj Cookie Cutter Generic Name, you are missing the point  
> which is:
> don't act so high and mighty when there are skeletons in your closet.


Actually, the point is that some idiot promoter in Utah didn't get the  
correct permits for some wack rave, and you'd all like to lie about it,  
while you're off voting for the party that caused him to be raided.


None of which has anything to do with me.









> Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for  
>> me
>> >> to
>> >> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something
>> >> bad
>> >> too!  And you suck!"
>> >>
>> >> Can't expect much more from ravers.
>> >>
>> >> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website,  
>> from
>> >> what I understand.
>> >>
>> >
>> > you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
>> >
>> > i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems to  
>> be
>> > legal
>> > from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you, jerk
>> > off.
>>
>>
>> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,
>> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------
>> DJ Entropy
>> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>> http://www.djentropy.com
>> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>>
>> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
>> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for  
>> this
>> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political  
>> and
>> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
>> Santorum
>>
>> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.  
>> Bush
>>
>
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"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is  
sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this  
scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
Santorum

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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

> John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
> Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.

right! because everyone who spent five and a half years in a pow camp is a
traitor!

> There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind like
> yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
> relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.

at any given time, you only see two options where as thinking people see many
so, who is feeble?

> None of which has anything to do with me.
except the high and mighty part.

i think we are having some communication problems in this format. maybe i can
just call you to sort this out. (617)424-0969 is that you? i can call ya
sunday.

until then.

-qk.

Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:

> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:43:18 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:
>
> >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,
> >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
> >
> > how right you are. conservatives have never done it
> > *cough*swiftvets*cough*.
>
>
> Errrr, you're joking right?
>
>
> > they even do character assination on their own (john mccain).
>
>
> John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
> Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
>
>
> > stop trying to label me. stop trying to see everything as right and
> > wrong. they
> > are opinions.
>
>
> There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind like
> yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
> relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
>
>
> > i digress.
> >
> > looke-here Dj Cookie Cutter Generic Name, you are missing the point
> > which is:
> > don't act so high and mighty when there are skeletons in your closet.
>
>
> Actually, the point is that some idiot promoter in Utah didn't get the
> correct permits for some wack rave, and you'd all like to lie about it,
> while you're off voting for the party that caused him to be raided.
>
>
> None of which has anything to do with me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
> >
> >> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay for
> >> me
> >> >> to
> >> >> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing something
> >> >> bad
> >> >> too!  And you suck!"
> >> >>
> >> >> Can't expect much more from ravers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their website,
> >> from
> >> >> what I understand.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
> >> >
> >> > i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems to
> >> be
> >> > legal
> >> > from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you, jerk
> >> > off.
> >>
> >>
> >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  Oh,
> >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ----------
> >> DJ Entropy
> >> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
> >> http://www.djentropy.com
> >> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
> >>
> >> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
> >> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for
> >> this
> >> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political
> >> and
> >> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
> >> Santorum
> >>
> >> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.
> >> Bush
> >>
> >
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> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

Isn't it obvious America's #1 Hardcore producer and Dj

isn't a real person.  It's just a giant anthromorphic douche-bag.


/my apologies to douche-bags

On 8/26/05, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:
> > John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
> > Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
>=20
> right! because everyone who spent five and a half years in a pow camp is =
a
> traitor!
>=20
> > There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind l=
ike
> > yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
> > relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
>=20
> at any given time, you only see two options where as thinking people see =
many
> so, who is feeble?
>=20
> > None of which has anything to do with me.
> except the high and mighty part.
>=20
> i think we are having some communication problems in this format. maybe i=
 can
> just call you to sort this out. (617)424-0969 is that you? i can call ya
> sunday.
>=20
> until then.
>=20
> -qk.
>=20
> Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>=20
> > On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:43:18 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wro=
te:
> >
> > >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  =
Oh,
> > >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
> > >
> > > how right you are. conservatives have never done it
> > > *cough*swiftvets*cough*.
> >
> >
> > Errrr, you're joking right?
> >
> >
> > > they even do character assination on their own (john mccain).
> >
> >
> > John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
> > Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
> >
> >
> > > stop trying to label me. stop trying to see everything as right and
> > > wrong. they
> > > are opinions.
> >
> >
> > There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind l=
ike
> > yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
> > relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
> >
> >
> > > i digress.
> > >
> > > looke-here Dj Cookie Cutter Generic Name, you are missing the point
> > > which is:
> > > don't act so high and mighty when there are skeletons in your closet.
> >
> >
> > Actually, the point is that some idiot promoter in Utah didn't get the
> > correct permits for some wack rave, and you'd all like to lie about it,
> > while you're off voting for the party that caused him to be raided.
> >
> >
> > None of which has anything to do with me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
> > >
> > >> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay f=
or
> > >> me
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing somet=
hing
> > >> >> bad
> > >> >> too!  And you suck!"
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Can't expect much more from ravers.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their websit=
e,
> > >> from
> > >> >> what I understand.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
> > >> >
> > >> > i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems=
 to
> > >> be
> > >> > legal
> > >> > from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you, =
jerk
> > >> > off.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?  =
Oh,
> > >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> ----------
> > >> DJ Entropy
> > >> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
> > >> http://www.djentropy.com
> > >> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
> > >>
> > >> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture=
 is
> > >> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse fo=
r
> > >> this
> > >> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, politica=
l
> > >> and
> > >> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - =
Rick
> > >> Santorum
> > >>
> > >> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.
> > >> Bush
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> > --
> > ----------
> > DJ Entropy
> > America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
> > http://www.djentropy.com
> > http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
> >
> > "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
> > sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for t=
his
> > scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political a=
nd
> > cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Ric=
k
> > Santorum
> >
> > "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bu=
sh
> >
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:46:59 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:

>> John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
>> Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
>
> right! because everyone who spent five and a half years in a pow camp is  
> a
> traitor!


That's not why he's a traitor.


>> There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind  
>> like
>> yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
>> relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
>
> at any given time, you only see two options where as thinking people see  
> many
> so, who is feeble?


Feeble-minded are those that know no right from wrong or Good from Evil.


>> None of which has anything to do with me.
> except the high and mighty part.
>
> i think we are having some communication problems in this format. maybe  
> i can
> just call you to sort this out. (617)424-0969 is that you? i can call ya
> sunday.


That hasn't been my number for like 2 years.







> Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:43:18 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?   
>> Oh,
>> >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>> >
>> > how right you are. conservatives have never done it
>> > *cough*swiftvets*cough*.
>>
>>
>> Errrr, you're joking right?
>>
>>
>> > they even do character assination on their own (john mccain).
>>
>>
>> John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
>> Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
>>
>>
>> > stop trying to label me. stop trying to see everything as right and
>> > wrong. they
>> > are opinions.
>>
>>
>> There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind  
>> like
>> yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
>> relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
>>
>>
>> > i digress.
>> >
>> > looke-here Dj Cookie Cutter Generic Name, you are missing the point
>> > which is:
>> > don't act so high and mighty when there are skeletons in your closet.
>>
>>
>> Actually, the point is that some idiot promoter in Utah didn't get the
>> correct permits for some wack rave, and you'd all like to lie about it,
>> while you're off voting for the party that caused him to be raided.
>>
>>
>> None of which has anything to do with me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay  
>> for
>> >> me
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing  
>> something
>> >> >> bad
>> >> >> too!  And you suck!"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can't expect much more from ravers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their  
>> website,
>> >> from
>> >> >> what I understand.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
>> >> >
>> >> > i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems  
>> to
>> >> be
>> >> > legal
>> >> > from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you,  
>> jerk
>> >> > off.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?   
>> Oh,
>> >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ----------
>> >> DJ Entropy
>> >> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>> >> http://www.djentropy.com
>> >> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>> >>
>> >> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture  
>> is
>> >> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for
>> >> this
>> >> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political
>> >> and
>> >> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." -  
>> Rick
>> >> Santorum
>> >>
>> >> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.
>> >> Bush
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> DJ Entropy
>> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>> http://www.djentropy.com
>> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>>
>> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
>> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for  
>> this
>> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political  
>> and
>> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
>> Santorum
>>
>> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.  
>> Bush
>>
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-- 
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http://www.djentropy.com
http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy

"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is  
sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this  
scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
Santorum

"It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bush

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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

If I have to seperate you kids..

Im gonna hide the body parts, all over the country..

(0_o)


>From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com
>To: "Quinn Madson" <qkmadson@uwm.edu>
>CC: "mw-raves@hyperreal.org" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal
>Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:58:38 -0400
>
>On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:46:59 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:
>
>>>John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
>>>Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
>>
>>right! because everyone who spent five and a half years in a pow camp is  
>>a
>>traitor!
>
>
>That's not why he's a traitor.
>
>
>>>There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind  
>>>like
>>>yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
>>>relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
>>
>>at any given time, you only see two options where as thinking people see  
>>many
>>so, who is feeble?
>
>
>Feeble-minded are those that know no right from wrong or Good from Evil.
>
>
>>>None of which has anything to do with me.
>>except the high and mighty part.
>>
>>i think we are having some communication problems in this format. maybe  i 
>>can
>>just call you to sort this out. (617)424-0969 is that you? i can call ya
>>sunday.
>
>
>That hasn't been my number for like 2 years.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>>
>>>On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:43:18 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>  
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?   
>>>Oh,
>>> >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>>> >
>>> > how right you are. conservatives have never done it
>>> > *cough*swiftvets*cough*.
>>>
>>>
>>>Errrr, you're joking right?
>>>
>>>
>>> > they even do character assination on their own (john mccain).
>>>
>>>
>>>John McCain is a RINO (Republican In Name Only).  We
>>>Americans/Conservatives (same thing) consider him a traitor.
>>>
>>>
>>> > stop trying to label me. stop trying to see everything as right and
>>> > wrong. they
>>> > are opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>>There is Good and Evil in the world.  Those with too feeble of a mind  
>>>like
>>>yourself cannot understand this, and instead only see swarms of moral
>>>relativistic grays.  However, that isn't my problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> > i digress.
>>> >
>>> > looke-here Dj Cookie Cutter Generic Name, you are missing the point
>>> > which is:
>>> > don't act so high and mighty when there are skeletons in your closet.
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually, the point is that some idiot promoter in Utah didn't get the
>>>correct permits for some wack rave, and you'd all like to lie about it,
>>>while you're off voting for the party that caused him to be raided.
>>>
>>>
>>>None of which has anything to do with me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>>> >
>>> >> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 17:30:00 -0400, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >> Typical liberal moral relativistic spin and attack.  "It's okay  
>>>for
>>> >> me
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> do something bad, because someone, somewhere, MUST be doing  
>>>something
>>> >> >> bad
>>> >> >> too!  And you suck!"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Can't expect much more from ravers.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Btw, those Coheed tracks have been leaked legally on their  
>>>website,
>>> >> from
>>> >> >> what I understand.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > you must get nose bleeds up there on your high horse.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > i'm not commenting on the ethics of downloading music (which seems  
>>>to
>>> >> be
>>> >> > legal
>>> >> > from what _you_ understand) or on this rave. i commenting on you,  
>>>jerk
>>> >> > off.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Just like a liberal.  Avoid the issue and attack the person.  Why?   
>>>Oh,
>>> >> because liberals are always wrong on the issue.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> ----------
>>> >> DJ Entropy
>>> >> America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>>> >> http://www.djentropy.com
>>> >> http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>>> >>
>>> >> "Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture  
>>>is
>>> >> sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for
>>> >> this
>>> >> scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political
>>> >> and
>>> >> cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." -  
>>>Rick
>>> >> Santorum
>>> >>
>>> >> "It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.
>>> >> Bush
>>> >>
>>> >
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>>>America's #1 Hardcore DJ/producer
>>>http://www.djentropy.com
>>>http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>>>
>>>"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is
>>>sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for  
>>>this
>>>scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political  
>>>and
>>>cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick
>>>Santorum
>>>
>>>"It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W.  
>>>Bush
>>>
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>http://www.djentropy.com
>http://livejournal.com/users/djentropy
>
>"Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture.  When the culture is  
>sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this  
>scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and  
>cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm." - Rick  
>Santorum
>
>"It's important to promote a culture of life." - President George W. Bush
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} more on the utah ordeal

On 8/26/05, Quinn Madson <qkmadson@uwm.edu> wrote:
> Quoting DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>:
>=20
> >
> > Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
> >
> >
> > The rest of the below spin doesn't matter, since they broke the law.
> >
>=20
> ... like posting illegal torrents on your personal web site you douche ba=
g:
> http://www.livejournal.com/users/djentropy/179975.html

Technically, he's just linking to them and not 'posting' them which,
thankfully, has remained legal.

Regards,
-j

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ENTROPY:  the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an ultimate state of inert uniformity; chaos, disorganization, randomness.
 
I have to say, dj entropy is certainly living up to his name. Did you learned a big word and stop skoolin from then on out? I'm tellin ya, man, Special K = brain munching machine elves in entropy.......Shrooms = geometric giggling mind-expanding earth gnomes of infinity.....change cannot occur until you decide to leave your ultimate state of inert uniformity.
 
(And what IS that: "Americans & Conservatives are the same thing"? No, no, stop trying to strain yourself.....you must mean Nazis. Conservatives & Nazis are the same thing. It's all right, I'll skool you in no time : )

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conservatives and nazis are the same thing?

Your parents feed you lead chips as a baby?

(0_o)


>From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] Entropy
>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT)
>
>ENTROPY:  the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an 
>ultimate state of inert uniformity; chaos, disorganization, randomness.
>
>I have to say, dj entropy is certainly living up to his name. Did you 
>learned a big word and stop skoolin from then on out? I'm tellin ya, man, 
>Special K = brain munching machine elves in entropy.......Shrooms = 
>geometric giggling mind-expanding earth gnomes of infinity.....change 
>cannot occur until you decide to leave your ultimate state of inert 
>uniformity.
>
>(And what IS that: "Americans & Conservatives are the same thing"? No, no, 
>stop trying to strain yourself.....you must mean Nazis. Conservatives & 
>Nazis are the same thing. It's all right, I'll skool you in no time : )
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Subject: RE: [mw] Entropy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

There's a little Nazism in all of us...

/ryan

>conservatives and nazis are the same thing?
>
>Your parents feed you lead chips as a baby?
>
>(0_o)
>
>
>>From: Annette Kubernus <trippy_pippi@yahoo.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: [mw] Entropy
>>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>ENTROPY:  the degradation of the matter and energy in the universe to an 
>>ultimate state of inert uniformity; chaos, disorganization, randomness.
>>
>>I have to say, dj entropy is certainly living up to his name. Did you 
>>learned a big word and stop skoolin from then on out? I'm tellin ya, man, 
>>Special K = brain munching machine elves in entropy.......Shrooms = 
>>geometric giggling mind-expanding earth gnomes of infinity.....change 
>>cannot occur until you decide to leave your ultimate state of inert 
>>uniformity.
>>
>>(And what IS that: "Americans & Conservatives are the same thing"? No, no, 
>>stop trying to strain yourself.....you must mean Nazis. Conservatives & 
>>Nazis are the same thing. It's all right, I'll skool you in no time : )
>>
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>>http://mail.yahoo.com
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Subject: [mw] 1200s bling bling

http://www.troutsoup.com/photos/sillyshit/ringl9oo


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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} 1200s bling bling

He's just interested in the cock he can get with that ring..

=)


At 11:42 AM 8/31/2005, Denae Conkey wrote:
>Trout,
>
>I didn't know you had an interest in black and champagne colored diamonds!
>
>On Wed, August 31, 2005 8:35 am, trout@pornstarstyle.com wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} 1200s bling bling

yes, i have my fits of bling bling!


> Trout,
>
> I didn’t know you had an interest in black and champagne colored diamonds!
>
> On Wed, August 31, 2005 8:35 am, trout@pornstarstyle.com wrote:
>> http://www.troutsoup.com/photos/sillyshit/ringl9oo


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----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} 1200s bling bling


> He's just interested in the cock he can get with that ring..
> 
> =)

Does this Cock Ring make me look fat?


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