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Subject: [mw] happy new year

pathetic as it sounds I am home for new years so now I
get to be the first to post to the list this year. Ok
that isnt the reason I am home but oh well.  Hope you
all are having a fun and festive holiday and that you
all stay safe.  

Happy 2001!!! 

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From mw-raves-return-12999-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 01 17:13:05 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] happy hardcore - a summation

for maximum effect, send at leat four (4) times.

mk

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Subject: [mw] dbnye report?

is anyone who went awake yet?  rather interested in hearing about it, as my 
new years sucked.

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Subject: [mw] Re: [happyusa] DJ Shadow died in a car accident ???

i perused the news sites for the US and UK (music and otherwise) and found 
nothing.  i think he's about as dead as dj funk is.  :P

mk

At 05:43 AM 1/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
>I heard he did?
>
>on the way home from a NYE party?
>
>any verification?
>
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Subject: [mw] Attn. PROMOTERS AND DEE JAYS

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!

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Subject: [mw] Re: [happyusa] DJ Shadow died in a car accident ???

don't forget bad boy bill, humpty vission, and paul van dyk!
they're all dead too, or so I've heard-bad boy bill's dead about 4 times
over!

---chris (boy wonder)

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From: "michael knight" <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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Subject: Re: [happyusa] DJ Shadow died in a car accident ???


> i perused the news sites for the US and UK (music and otherwise) and found
> nothing.  i think he's about as dead as dj funk is.  :P
>
> mk
>
> At 05:43 AM 1/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >I heard he did?
> >
> >on the way home from a NYE party?
> >
> >any verification?
> >
> >-Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> >(bhpc, cheesestep recordings, n.e. hardcore, boston)
> >54-56 Burbank St. #5
> >Boston, MA 02115
> >http://www.djentropy.com
> >http://www.mp3.com/djentropy
> >(617)859-8692
> >info line: (617)250-0019
> >ian@djentropy.com
> >"There is no ONE right way to live." - Daniel Quinn
> >"Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see......Educate
the
> >narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel...." - Genacide II - Narra
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Party people in the house...

The year is 2001...

...if you witnessed the energy of one particular
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DBNYE I need only mention one thing:

J A N  0 5 
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The year is 2001...

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J A N  0 5 
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If you missed the oppurtunity the catch this man in
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hit me back.

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Well, I'm gonna keep this short, since I'm not too wordy on reviews and all.
I had a good time most of the night.  I was not impressed by Rob Base and 
DJ EZ-Rock.  Mea threw down a nice set as did Twilight Sleep, Matt Bandy 
and Trevor Lamont, and Troll and Mowgli.  I met some great people, 
including a few from near my hometown.  I was gonna stay for the duration 
of the party, until I saw some kid convulsing on the floor around 
6:30.  That ruined the rest of the night for me.  I left as the ambulance 
was arriving...I hope the kid is ok, he couldn't walk on his own, they had 
two people pretty much carrying him once they got him off the floor.  Well, 
there's not much more to say, seeing something like that really takes you 
out of a good holiday mood.


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>I left as the ambulance was arriving...I hope the kid is ok, he couldn't 
>walk on his own, they had two people pretty much carrying him once they 
>got him off the floor.

WOOOOOOOOOOOO RAVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WOOO WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

mk

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that was pretty impressive!


--- Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:
> i dunno about that. remember that kid that we lost
> in dallas. i found him 
> running around up there about a week ago. poor guy
> was suffering from 
> dementia. blabbering like a fool. i sent him
> downtown
> 
> he was a champ
> 
> baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
> 
> << : if i were set of keys where would i be? 
>  
>  if they were up your ass you'd know !!!
>  
>  -THE bitch iySyS- >>


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Subject: [mw] EARTH INVERSE 

intellifeforms proudly presents:
EARTH INVERSE
02.16.01
LEXINGTON KY

FEATURING:

KEVIN YOST

_Kevin can be summed up in two words:  unique
producer.  His unique style, a jazz and house fusion,
has given him world renown recognition.  Kevin's
talents have taken him to prestigious labels like i!
Recordings, Distang Music, Guidance and such major
labels as Polygram and Sony.  Not only has he put
releases out on such prestigeous labels but Devin has
done remixes for the likes of Eric Clapton, Evry Thing
But the Girl, Josh Wink, and Japan's kodo Drumers.  As
well as his production skills Keviin has proved to be
a powerful skilled DJ by playing at Venues in Germany,
Japan, Switzerland England, France, Canada, and of
course all over the US.  His current production
schedule provides him with little if no time for
anything else.  We are honord to welcome Kevin to
Lexington KY for and intimate evening and a very
special 3 hour performance. 

TRAXX

_What can be said about Mel that hasn't been said
before?  AMazing? Unique?  He holds international fame
with residencies all over the world.  We have seen
this DJ do thinkgs that no other DJ has ever done.  If
you have seen him before you know what we are talking
about.  Its beenn a while since he has visited the
medwest.  You dont want to miss this DJ's set cause
you won't know when he will be back

TWILIGHT SLEEP

_America's only live drum and bass act!  This group of
five technological pioneers will be working he
circuits and flipping the switches to deliver a
symphony of thump directly to your cerebral cortex. 
Donnn't miss Twilights first Lexington performance so
you can say,  "I saw thim back when...."

Matt Syntax

Coming from chicago Matt has a unique style of deep
dechno.  his muisc provokes the mind and worms the
soul.  He honestly has an indivual style all of his
own.  Matt will be making his first Lexington
apperance as well.  Dont miss his early morning set!

TSAR

Originally from Russia Tsar now resides in Lexington. 
He is one of the Midwest's most talented trance DJ's. 
It is amazing to think this DJ has played all over the
country in such cities as LA, Denver, Detroit,
Pittsburg, and Albuqurque and has not yet played in
his home town.  His Style ranges from progressive to
hard and dark trance.

DJ Kell

Avetran DJ with over 13 years of experiance behind the
decks, he has been mixing records longer than most of
you kids have been out of your diapers.  Kell has
played all over the Midwest since moving from
Baltimore to Lexington in 1989!  Stunning crowds with
a unique blend of French House, Disco, and Hard House,
he generates a relentless assult of funky beats that
leaves dance floors breathless.

Robin Baker

Robin is one of the main forces behind intellifeforms.
 His first Lexington apperance was at one of NateFX's
Late Night parties.  When Robin closed the night he
had everyone dancing untill his last record.  His
opening set tonight will start this party off right!!

The first 50 people will recieve a free cd from Trevor
Lamont and Matthew Bandy.  This is Trevor's first mix
release in over 4 years!

admission_$15 before 11:00 / $20 after

for more info check the following:
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Subject: [mw] Re: [happyusa] DJ Shadow died in a car accident ???

well, usually I could care less if rah rah rah suppossedly died.....but
Shadow is actually GOOD, so I just wanted to see what was up..

:)

-Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
(bhpc, cheesestep recordings, n.e. hardcore, boston)
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Subject: Re: [happyusa] DJ Shadow died in a car accident ???


> don't forget bad boy bill, humpty vission, and paul van dyk!
> they're all dead too, or so I've heard-bad boy bill's dead about 4 times
> over!
>
> ---chris (boy wonder)
>
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> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 12:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [happyusa] DJ Shadow died in a car accident ???
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> > i perused the news sites for the US and UK (music and otherwise) and
found
> > nothing.  i think he's about as dead as dj funk is.  :P
> >
> > mk
> >
> > At 05:43 AM 1/1/01 -0800, you wrote:
> > >I heard he did?
> > >
> > >on the way home from a NYE party?
> > >
> > >any verification?
> > >
> > >-Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> > >(bhpc, cheesestep recordings, n.e. hardcore, boston)
> > >54-56 Burbank St. #5
> > >Boston, MA 02115
> > >http://www.djentropy.com
> > >http://www.mp3.com/djentropy
> > >(617)859-8692
> > >info line: (617)250-0019
> > >ian@djentropy.com
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> > >"Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see......Educate
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count me in fershure! =]

pixie

--- matthew bandy <mbandy3_14@yahoo.com> wrote:
> intellifeforms proudly presents:
> EARTH INVERSE
> 02.16.01
> LEXINGTON KY


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ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2001
IN LEXINGTON, KY
ENTICE WILL TAKE YOU...


HIGHER!



Line-Up:

.. DJ Spree (minneapolis, mn)  vs.  Valerie Sparks (san francisco, ca) ..
.. Cloudskipper (san francisco, ca)  vs.  Muppetfucker (austin, tx) .. 2X4
.. Matt Positive (chicago, il) ..
.. DJ Entropy (boston, ma) ..
.. Tilzs (minneapolis, mn) ..
.. DJ Resistor (washington, dc) ..
.. DJ Eor (south bend, in) ..


General Information:


.. 9000 sq. feet of clean, virgin, secure space with plenty of parking and bathrooms!
.. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals from our friends at Project 7!
.. Free toys and giveaways to ticket holders!
.. R.O.A.R. in full effect! No alcohol, drugs, firearms, open containers, markers, backpacks or drama. You will be searched at the door by our firm and friendly security staff. Please respect the venue and each other. Please dress warmly. Coat check will be provided.


Ticket Information:

Pre-sales tickets are now on sale until January 31. Pre-sale ticket holders will have entry priority and receive a free toy at the door. Those of you travelling 300 miles or more (approx. 5 hours driving time) will get in at pre-sale cost (proof of travel is required). We do, however, everyone to purchase pre-sale tickets as this event will sell out quickly! Only 800 tickets will be sold!
.. Pre-sale tickets: $12.00
.. At the door: $15.00 w/ a new coloring book; $17.00 w/out
Tickets can be purchased at 808 Records on S. Limestone near the UK Campus in Lexington. If not in the Lexington area, tickets can be obtained with a credit card or check via phone - 859.252.9808..

MAIN INFO LINE - 859.288.4599
WEBSITE - HTTP://WWW.ENTICE.NU
E-MAIL - INFO@ENTICE.NU
PREPRE-SALE TICKETS - 859.252.98089808

DIRECTIONS AND HOTEL INFORMATION WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND THE INFO LINE APPROXIMATELY ONE WEEK BEFORE THE EVENT.  
LIMITED AMOUNT OF GUEST LIST SPOTS IS AVAILABLE FOR PROMOTERS ONLY (1 SPOT PER PRODUCTION CREW). YOU MUST BE FLYERING FOR AN EVENT TO RECEIVE A COMPLIMENTARY TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT ENTICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS!


Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar

Entice, Level 9.0
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http://www.entice.nu
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<P align=center><FONT color=crimson face=Verdana style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2001<BR></FONT><FONT color=crimson face=Verdana style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">IN LEXINGTON, KY<BR>ENTICE WILL TAKE YOU...</FONT></P><BR>
<P align=center><FONT color=brown><FONT color=blue face=Verdana size=6 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"><STRONG>HIGHER!</STRONG></FONT></FONT></P><BR><FONT size=+0><BR>
<P><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=red><STRONG><U>Line-Up:</U><BR></STRONG></FONT><STRONG></FONT><BR></STRONG><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue>.. DJ Spree (minneapolis, mn)&nbsp; vs.&nbsp; Valerie Sparks (san francisco, ca) ..<BR>.. Cloudskipper (san francisco, ca)&nbsp; vs.&nbsp; Muppetfucker (austin, tx) .. 2X4<BR>..&nbsp;Matt Positive (chicago, il) ..<BR>..&nbsp;DJ Entropy (boston, ma) ..<BR>.. Tilzs (minneapolis, mn) ..<BR>..&nbsp;DJ Resistor (washington, dc) ..<BR>..&nbsp;DJ Eor (south bend, in) ..</FONT></STRONG></FONT><BR></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><FONT color=red><STRONG><U>General Information:</U></STRONG></FONT></FONT></STRONG><BR></FONT></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><FONT color=red><FONT size=2><FONT color=steelblue face=Verdana>.. 9000 sq. feet of clean, virgin, secure space with plenty of parking and bathrooms!<BR>.. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals from our friends at Project 7!<BR>.. Free toys and giveaways to ticket holders!<BR>.. R.O.A.R. in full effect! No alcohol, drugs, firearms, open containers, markers, backpacks or drama. You will be searched at the door by our firm and friendly security staff. Please respect the venue and each other. Please dress warmly. Coat check will be provided.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><BR></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><FONT color=red face=Verdana><U>Ticket Information:</U></FONT></FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana><STRONG>Pre-sales tickets are now on sale until January 31. Pre-sale ticket holders will have entry priority and receive a free toy at the door. Those of you travelling 300 miles or more (approx. 5 hours driving time) will get in at pre-sale cost (proof of travel is required). We do, however, everyone to purchase pre-sale tickets as this event will sell out quickly! Only 800 tickets will be sold!<BR>.. Pre-sale tickets: $12.00<BR>.. At the door: $15.00 w/ a new coloring book; $17.00 w/out<BR>Tickets can be purchased at 808 Records on S. Limestone near the UK Campus in Lexington. If not in the Lexington area, tickets can be obtained with a credit card or check via phone - 859.252.9808..</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=+0><FONT color=palevioletred><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana><FONT face=Verdana><STRONG><FONT size=2><FONT color=palevioletred>MAIN INFO LINE - 859.288.4599<BR></FONT></FONT></STRONG></FONT><FONT size=2>WEBSITE - <A href="http://www.entice.nu/" target=_blank></FONT><FONT color=palevioletred size=2><STRONG>HTTP://WWW.ENTICE.NU<BR></STRONG></FONT></A><STRONG><FONT color=palevioletred size=2>E</FONT></STRONG></FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=palevioletred size=2>-MAIL - </FONT><FONT color=palevioletred><FONT size=2><FONT color=palevioletred><STRONG><A href="http://us.f5.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=INFO@ENTICE.NU" target=_blank>INFO@ENTICE.NU</A><BR></STRONG></FONT><STRONG>PRE</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG><FONT size=2><FONT color=palevioletred face=Verdana><STRONG>PRE-SALE TICKETS - 859.252.98089808</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=slategray face=Verdana size=1>DIRECTIONS AND HOTEL INFORMATION WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND THE INFO LINE APPROXIMATELY ONE WEEK BEFORE THE EVENT.&nbsp; <BR>LIMITED AMOUNT OF GUEST LIST SPOTS IS AVAILABLE FOR PROMOTERS ONLY (1 SPOT PER PRODUCTION CREW). YOU MUST BE FLYERING FOR AN EVENT TO RECEIVE A COMPLIMENTARY TICKET. PLEASE CONTACT ENTICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS!</FONT></FONT></FONT></P></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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Subject: [mw] Sup?

Hey--

I just wanted to say hey since I just joined the board.  I used to be on
years ago, but bah on that.

Anyway, I'm from Minneapolis and I go to school in Omaha (and am in
search of parties in the Omaha area...)

I dig just about anything as long as it's good (trance and happy
hardcore, for example)

I'll just stop talking about myself for the moment then.  :-P

Anybody know what happened at the Numb3rs/LiquidAdrenaline party last
night?

Mike

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this should be fun tuesday morning...

a real big mw-raves welcome to you MPM,
-t

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I dig just about anything as long as it's good (trance and happy
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Subject: [mw] EARTH INVERSE 

intellifeforms proudly presents:
EARTH INVERSE
02.16.01
LEXINGTON KY

FEATURING:

KEVIN YOST

_Kevin can be summed up in two words:  unique
producer.  His unique style, a jazz and house fusion,
has given him world renown recognition.  Kevin's
talents have taken him to prestigious labels like i!
Recordings, Distang Music, Guidance and such major
labels as Polygram and Sony.  Not only has he put
releases out on such prestigeous labels but Devin has
done remixes for the likes of Eric Clapton, Evry Thing
But the Girl, Josh Wink, and Japan's kodo Drumers.  As
well as his production skills Keviin has proved to be
a powerful skilled DJ by playing at Venues in Germany,
Japan, Switzerland England, France, Canada, and of
course all over the US.  His current production
schedule provides him with little if no time for
anything else.  We are honord to welcome Kevin to
Lexington KY for and intimate evening and a very
special 3 hour performance. 

TRAXX

_What can be said about Mel that hasn't been said
before?  AMazing? Unique?  He holds international fame
with residencies all over the world.  We have seen
this DJ do thinkgs that no other DJ has ever done.  If
you have seen him before you know what we are talking
about.  Its beenn a while since he has visited the
medwest.  You dont want to miss this DJ's set cause
you won't know when he will be back

TWILIGHT SLEEP

_America's only live drum and bass act!  This group of
five technological pioneers will be working he
circuits and flipping the switches to deliver a
symphony of thump directly to your cerebral cortex. 
Donnn't miss Twilights first Lexington performance so
you can say,  "I saw thim back when...."

Matt Syntax

Coming from chicago Matt has a unique style of deep
dechno.  his muisc provokes the mind and worms the
soul.  He honestly has an indivual style all of his
own.  Matt will be making his first Lexington
apperance as well.  Dont miss his early morning set!

TSAR

Originally from Russia Tsar now resides in Lexington. 
He is one of the Midwest's most talented trance DJ's. 
It is amazing to think this DJ has played all over the
country in such cities as LA, Denver, Detroit,
Pittsburg, and Albuqurque and has not yet played in
his home town.  His Style ranges from progressive to
hard and dark trance.

DJ Kell

Avetran DJ with over 13 years of experiance behind the
decks, he has been mixing records longer than most of
you kids have been out of your diapers.  Kell has
played all over the Midwest since moving from
Baltimore to Lexington in 1989!  Stunning crowds with
a unique blend of French House, Disco, and Hard House,
he generates a relentless assult of funky beats that
leaves dance floors breathless.

Robin Baker

Robin is one of the main forces behind intellifeforms.
 His first Lexington apperance was at one of NateFX's
Late Night parties.  When Robin closed the night he
had everyone dancing untill his last record.  His
opening set tonight will start this party off right!!

The first 50 people will recieve a free cd from Trevor
Lamont and Matthew Bandy.  This is Trevor's first mix
release in over 4 years!

admission_$15 before 11:00 / $20 after

for more info check the following:
web_www.intellifeforms.com
lan_859.296.7820
ema_deephousesouldier@yahoo.com

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darn, you beat me to it...i for one promise to leave
it alone ;]

no, i swear.
pixie

--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> this should be fun tuesday morning...
> 
> a real big mw-raves welcome to you MPM,
> -t
> 
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> Subject: [mw] Sup?
> 
> 
> I dig just about anything as long as it's good
> (trance and happy
> hardcore, for example)


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Subject: [mw] www.EastCoastHappy.com, version 3.0 ;o)

Yes, yes, the day has finally come...we have a new version of our site!!!

Go to www.EastCoastHappy.com to see the fabulous new version.

    Bet you didn't know that Oron is not only a hard working DJ, but also
computer guru extroidinaire?  Well he is! ...and along with the help of our
graphics guy, Calvin, he designed a new version of the site and did all the
coding for it in his spare time. :o)

    We have a new space called "Features".  Not only will this house some
new goodies in the future, BUT it has a permanent home for our contests,
etc.  For example, we are giving away two guestlist spots to Buzz (in Wash.,
DC) ...go check it out and enter.

    It's so beautiful and fabulous, I'm getting all verklempt.  Talk amongst
yourselves, *sniff* I'll give you a topic: EastCoastHappy is both a web site
and a radio station.  Discuss...and send all comments to
feedback@eastcoasthappy.com

peace,
Sarah
www.eastcoasthappy.com
aim: blaufrau2000
...............
I'm alive, and the world shines for me today.
I'm alive, suddenly I am here today.
Seems like forever (and a day),
thought I could never (feel this way)
Does this really mean, I'm alive?



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LM Boyd retired... just where am I supposed to get my fix of useless trivia
now? Do I want to bother reading the newspaper anymore?  Does anyone else
even know what I'm talking about.
Morning's just wont be the same.



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Subject: [mw] DBNYE

i can't give a good review of this party 'cuz i was for the most part
completely uniterested about being there.  But there I was.  I was standing
in line w/ Heather and Micah during the Doormouse/Anonymous set, something I
was hoping not to miss.  Oh well.

Overall the party was visually interesting, very spacious, everything you
expect from a Drop Bass party.  This was the first and only time I have seen
the expo center used with more than one stage without huge amounts of sound
bleeding between the rooms.  I know this was supposed to be the "last" expo
party, but if the way this went off has anything to do with it (i can only
speak about it up until 3:30 or so when i left), I'm sure it won't be and I
hope any future uses consider the sound setup used at this event.

The DJ's and the crowd, however, did not seem all that inspired, IMHO.  Mind
you, Mark EG was a nut as you'd expect, and if someone (can you guess? yup,
none other than master cassette thrower Jes One) starts throwing tapes at
the crowd, people will put their hands up and try to catch them.  If the DJ
wants you to scream, you scream - but does that mean its a crowd ripe with
energy or just a crowd full of sheep?  I vote sheep, but it was a butterfly
ballot, so we need a recount.

The thing that i REALLY wanted to know about was in the tj richter "stations
of the lost" (think "stations of the cross") exhibit that was in the chill
room... i don't want to try to explain what it was all about (btw, you
should really make an online version) but each "station" described a
possible "raver downfall", be it e-tard groping, stealing, STDs, whatever,
you get the idea.  One of the signs mentioned the evils of PEEING ON PEOPLE.
I still can't tell if that was just taking the joke even furthur, or
possibly someone didn't get it.  I'd love to know which.

It made my New Years, anyway.

rave on,
-t


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Subject: [mw] eh?

2001.

oy vey. i was writing yesterday morning, and as i
wrote the date down, became very easily amused that it
was 01.01.01...new day, new year, new beginning.
sounds like the same old cliche... "this year will be
different..." but that's not what i mean. personally,
2000 was an extremely challenging and eventful year
for me, from moment 1, as micah rang in the new year
and terrified my neighbors with his own personal brand
of deathcore, right up to the very last few hours of
dec. 31, dealing with my own personal hell of
insecurities that have been chasing me my whole life,
and all decided to rear up their ugly heads this year
while i more or less rearranged my entire existence.
then of course, the in-between, obligatory young-adult
"finding myself" adventure, interlaced with quite a
few moments of near-nervous-breakdown...my nerves are
just about shot to hell.

but i'm determined not to "make this year different"
so much as to put my past to rest with the past, to
leave the emotional coaster that 2000 has been for me
in 2000, and move ahead, this time for good. so many
of us have come such a long way over the past few
years, and trying to reconcile the severely
alternative lifestyles that many of us lead with the
required responsibility level that we must have in
order to move forward can be hard as hell sometimes,
and extremely confusing. but i know where i'm going,
and quite frankly, i'm tired of arguing with myself
over how i'm going to get there, and what i need along
the way. let's face it, life's too damn short to worry
over details, and letting the same fears and
insecurities from past hurts and failures creep into
the present only wastes time, emotion, and energy. as
i look back, i'm starting to realise that i've come a
lot farther than i've let myself admit, and maybe,
just maybe, it's time to accept that everything really
is going to be okay.

without further adieu: general resolutions inspired by
interesting date notations.

1. let it go. i've fallen into a really nasty habit of
expecting the same things to happen over and over
again, of interpreting different people's actions in
the same way. it's become time for me to realise that
things *aren't* the same anymore, and to unlearn my
conditioned responses that i've built up over the
years to protect myself. over a period of time, when
you keep getting treated the same certain way by
people who fill a certain capacity in your life, you
begin to script a set of responses for when that
situation arises. learned out of mistrust and fear,
those responses can get you in trouble when you
automatically assume that the newest person in that
capacity deserves to be interpreted that same way. you
have to be awake enough to recognize when something
really different has come along, and ooh boy i just
about missed it because i still had my understanding
on autopilot. i became so used to fighting for the
same thing over and over again that i just kept right
on fighting this time when it really wasn't necessary
anymore. skewed, huh? no it's not supposed to make any
sense to you, just to me (and perhaps one other
person) so don't worry about it ;]

2. get the hell off my lazy ass.

3. reorganize my brain. i'm getting shoddy these days.
i'm letting simple things that i'd just like to
communicate to others get confused with being angry,
sad, or hurt, and i'm not communicating in any sort of
comprehensable way, to myself or those around me. that
can be bad. just trust me. there's a difference
between being konfused and being confused, and i've
learned a little bit about that this year.

4. quit posting lame shit to this list. well, i guess
i can just break it this once, right?

merry new outlook on life in general. make it count =]

the one, the only, the whore of babylon, "my boobs are
famous" pixie. (very sometimes known humbly as amy)

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>but i'm determined not to "make this year different" so much as to put my 
>past to rest with the past, to leave the emotional coaster that 2000 has 
>been for me in 2000, and move ahead, this time for good. so many of us have 
>come such a long way over the past few years, and trying to reconcile the 
>severely alternative lifestyles that many of us lead with the required 
>responsibility level that we must have in order to move forward can be hard 
>as hell sometimes, and extremely confusing.

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ive found a couple of tracks on napster. does anyone have a full length copy? 
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="DECORATIVE" FACE="Tempus Sans ITC" LANG="0"><B>ive found a couple of tracks on napster. does anyone have a full length copy? <BR>tape/cd/mp3
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all i can say, is if we're now allowed to post bilingually, i from now on,
will post nur auf deutsch. sie muessen jetzt einen Uebersetzer benutzen,
wenn sie wissen wollen, was ich sage.

danke sehr und hab einen guten Tag!

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>We may be done with the past, but the past is not done with us.

sadly true, sir.

*sigh*

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pixie wrote:
>so many of us have come such a long way over the past few
>years, and trying to reconcile the severely
>alternative lifestyles that many of us lead with the
>required responsibility level that we must have in
>order to move forward can be hard as hell sometimes,
>and extremely confusing. =


damn, i hear ya girl!  my new year's resolution was that 2001 would be th=
e
"year of the young professional" - meaning i'm getting my shit together a=
nd
getting a job that pays a lot, involves thinking and creativity.  cleanin=
g up
and trying to live a little better.  see, i'm a hard-partying old schoole=
r who
can often be found with 2 40's in my jnco's, smoking a woo blunt.... now =
it's
not really the chemicals here, but the lifestyle.  i'm sick of being ragg=
edy
and having to deal with sketchy people all the time. =


i had a crazy off the hook new year's party at my pad in columbus ohio, w=
ith
two floors of dj's and mad folks were there (hi mikey!).  now even though=
 this
was the best new year's i've ever had, i'm really depressed about some of=
 the
peices of shit that showed up at my house.  =


and no surprise, all the lame sucky people were drug dealers!!!!  i have =
had
to deal with more asshole drug dealers this past weekend than in three mo=
nths
of my usual life!  they robbed my friends, insulted my girl, and even sto=
le
random shit!!!  jeez, i went to the bathroom this morning and found that =
the
motherfucker stole my electric razor!  and if that all isn't enough, i sa=
w
them casing my recording studio, so now i guess i'll be answering the doo=
r
latenights with a .38 special.  (i live alone so i can't take chances)

this sucks.  i want to hold onto my love of partying and sharing the vibe=
 and
my house with others.  i'm not about to swear off drugs anytime soon - bu=
t
more than ever, i have to admit to myself that if i didn't allow dealers =
or
drug deals to go down in my house, i wouldn't ever have to worry about th=
is
shit.  =


i'm sick of sketchball ravers, drunk rednecks, snotty cokeheads, and most=
 of
all, gold-tooth havin, tupac-lookin, just-got-out-of-jail gun totin,
trying-to-punk-me thug ass drug dealers.  =


i didn't agree to this part of the alternative lifestyle....
or maybe i have.  =


i dunno.  happy 2001.


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oh crap!  becky i totally forgot that you spoke german!  do you know what 
would totally rule?  if you went to http://213.68.93.5/pages/brief/s1.html 
and translated that handwritten letter!  babelfish sucks for 
>will post nur auf deutsch. sie muessen jetzt einen Uebersetzer benutzen,
>wenn sie wissen wollen, was ich sage.
>
>danke sehr und hab einen guten Tag!
>
>On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:
>
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> > ps YO-YO ES GRANDE!!
>
>
>--
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>
>wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
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>and no surprise, all the lame sucky people were drug dealers!!!!  i have had
>to deal with more asshole drug dealers this past weekend than in three months
>of my usual life!  they robbed my friends, insulted my girl, and even stole
>random shit!!!  jeez, i went to the bathroom this morning and found that the
>motherfucker stole my electric razor!  and if that all isn't enough, i saw
>them casing my recording studio, so now i guess i'll be answering the door
>latenights with a .38 special.  (i live alone so i can't take chances)

rave drug dealers will steal anything that isn't bolted down.  the columbus 
ones seem to be especially sheisty in this regard.

mk


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i swear you sound like you are channeling stevie t right now.  i think i
like it.

tonsaplur,
-t
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> <bad stuff about drug dealers>

rave drug dealers will steal anything that isn't bolted down.  the columbus 
ones seem to be especially sheisty in this regard.

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>i swear you sound like you are channeling stevie t right now.  i think i
>like it.

hahahahahahah doh.  except stevie t had a dumbass roommate that sold 
bags-o-schwag to make rent and didn't always make it.  i had $4,000 worth 
of equipment and records and as much in cash walk outta my apartment 
because i actually trusted one of these people.  :P

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and the 2000 darwin awards winners have been announced!  these just aren't 
as funny as they used to be, though.  oh well!

www.darwinawards.com

mk
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> We may be done with the past, but the past is not
> done with us.

what's within my power, i'm done with. as for the
rest, let's just hope medical technology finds a way
to fix it ;]

pixie


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hear hear. i had a laundry basket stolen, cheap
plastic shelves that you can buy at meijer for like
$5, silverware (of the stainless AND plastic variety)
and various knicknacks that were apparently deemed
useful in some capacity...yet during the same
opportunities, my pager, my stereo, and countless cd's
were left untouched.

long live k-lumbus shade (in other words, die already)
pixie


> rave drug dealers will steal anything that isn't
> bolted down.  the columbus 
> ones seem to be especially sheisty in this regard.
> 
> mk


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.  I was standing
> in line w/ Heather and Micah during the Doormouse/Anonymous set,

    Shit, bitch, you guys were there? I was looking for Micah all night! =]
Well I had a good time at DBNYE, Mark EG, L Double, PH612, and a few others
through the night had me goin. I got to ring in the new year with a bunch of
friends, party drop bass stylo, and see a bunch of you mw-gravers all at
once. Lucky me. =] What else can I say about the party? Drop Bass realy did
an awesome job decorating, the lights and visuals were good, and that chill
area with TJ Richter was truly inspired. Nice job boys! Hope everybody else
enjoyed their new years...

Matt Murphy
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Now allowed to post bi-lingually? wtf?? were there ever any rules in place
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P.S. Becky please do post "auf deutsch" from now on. 

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Subject: [mw] THANKS!!!

Scarab Records would like to thank everyone for coming out to our New Year's 
Eve party on Sunday night, we had a wonderful time with everyone.

We would also like to thank everyone for their continued support of our 
record label and our events.

We have a great year ahead for 2001.


Coming up . . . 


FROST
Saturday, January 20th, 2001
Indianapolis, Indiana

Featuring . . . 

Room One:
RECLOOSE (Detroit Techno)
SLUGO (Chicago Booty House)
JONATHAN KEITH (Deep House)
PHASE (Drum & Bass)
D-FINE (Breaks)
SPINDLE (Trance)

Ambient Room:
RONALD BAILEY (Chicago Mood)
TIMOTHY PININFARINA (Vaporspace)

Virgin Venue:  2 Rooms
Move inducing sounds
Mood inducing lights
Mind inducing vibes 

Doors:  10pm-6am

Tickets:  $20 at the door (no pre-sale)


FOR MORE DETAILS AND DIRECTIONS PLEASE CONTACT
SCARAB RECORDS @

SCARAB RECORDS
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THANK YOU

THE SCARAB BOYS ;-)

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Subject: [mw] Thursday January 4th, 2000 - GRAVITYBASS - A Birthday Party for DJ Facs

Zeropoint Records and Gravitybass Productions Present:

A Gravitybass Birthday For Facs

Appearing Live on January 4, 2001

Facs and Sparks
Biotic, XXX


::::: Facs, one half of the hard hitting duo, Dylan and Facs, graces
Cincinnati with a speial appearance on January 4th.  This happents to be
his Birthday, so Gravitybass is going to throw him a very special
Birthday Bash.  So if you want to see a grown man age before your eyes,
do not miss this evening.  Dont forget to bring him a birthday card!

Tag teaming with Facs will be his first lady, Sparks, Cincy's very own
Kristin Farneth.  You may have seen this girl in action before, but
she's back and ready to blow up the spot.


Also Appearing::::::::


Twilightsleep, Mowgli, and Troll

Yeah.  If you haven't seen or heard whats been going on, these three
Gravitybass residents have been making quite a name for themselves
throghout the American Drum & Bass scene, giving Cinciy D&B something to
be proud of.  Mowgli has a special set up his sleve, fusing jazz
instrumentation with his always fresh turntablism.  Troll's not going to
let you leave without an amazing set, and if you saw him at Bass
Reaction 2 you'll know what we mean.  Twilightsleep, growing by the
minute, and one of America's only Live Drum & Bass Acts, is going to
unleash its five piece frenzy upon your ears and shwo you how deep the
brown note really is.

Look out for MC's Firecat, Batre, and TNT to enlighten you on the mic.


Admission is $7.  You knwo it will be fun!

As always, Gravitybass is held at Top Cat's. 2820 Vine St, Cincinnati,
Oh

Gravitybass is brought to you by Zeropoint Records, Topcat's/Fat Cat's
and the Gravitybass Federation.
http://www.zeropointrecords.com
email:zeropointrecords@hotmail.com

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At 01:29 PM 2001-01-02, you wrote:
>hear hear. i had a laundry basket stolen, cheap
>plastic shelves that you can buy at meijer for like
>$5, silverware (of the stainless AND plastic variety)
>and various knicknacks that were apparently deemed
>useful in some capacity...yet during the same
>opportunities, my pager, my stereo, and countless cd's
>were left untouched.

my friend's car window was broken into (passenger) in detroit a month or 
two ago at a rave and the e-tard who did it stole the digital camera from 
the glovebox, but ignored the palmpilot (5x, the cool one) in the console, 
the $400 radar detector, the computer equipment (voodoo5 5500 and a 30gb 
drive) in the backseat, as well as the amplifier in the trunk.... leave it 
to the etards.

-j


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> my friend's car window was broken into (passenger) in detroit a month or
> two ago at a rave and the e-tard who did it stole the digital camera from
> the glovebox, but ignored the palmpilot (5x, the cool one) in the console,
> the $400 radar detector, the computer equipment (voodoo5 5500 and a 30gb
> drive) in the backseat, as well as the amplifier in the trunk.... leave it
> to the etards.

i had my car broken into at dropbass nye '96, but i was actually kind of
glad an etard did it. he or she snagged my bag, discman and camera, but
took my journal out of my backpack and left it on the seat. insurance
covered the busted window, and i replaced the bags, camera and cd player.
so it was nice that the one thing that was irreplacable was purposefully
left behind (especially since it was of no use to the thieves).

/j

yeah, pubnix and konfused are down, thanks for the account, luke.










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>long live k-lumbus shade (in other words, die already)
>pixie

hahaha - i got one for you:

a friend of mine got sold some bunk opium and hash.  he brought it over t=
o
show me, and left it on my livingroom table.  needless to say, it was sto=
len
by sketchball acid head ravers within a week.  i still crack up when i th=
ink
of those kids desperately toking up at the end of their trip, trying to m=
ellow
out... i hope they burned up their throats and started seeing spiders.

peace,
catnap

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A manager comes in my office today and proceeds to ask
me:

"If I have a disk with a file on it, and I want to get
rid of the file so I can use the disk for something
else, how do I do that?"

me: well, have you tried highliting it and hitting the
delete key?

nimrod: "oh, you can do that?"

*shrug*
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wow.

forget to eat your muffin this morning?

plus, to save posts...in response to the first
message: ¡ay papi!  in response to becky's auf
leiderhosen post: in theory, that would work, except
then lamers like me would feel the irrepressable need
to cram the list with pithy babelfish wit, and that's
just not necessary, is it? ;]

Übrigens möchten die Ameisen, die in meinen Hosen
sind, sehr tanzen.
pixie


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> ever any rules in place
> that posts must be made in english? god I hope
> not... I for one wish not to
> be subscribed to such a facist list... but if there
> is to be only one
> single language permitted on mw-raves, it simply
> must be esperanza.
> 
> tad
> 
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You should have told him no.

Then sold him a blank floppy for a dollar.

   -bill


>===== Original Message From pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> =====
>A manager comes in my office today and proceeds to ask
>me:
>
>"If I have a disk with a file on it, and I want to get
>rid of the file so I can use the disk for something
>else, how do I do that?"
>
>me: well, have you tried highliting it and hitting the
>delete key?
>
>nimrod: "oh, you can do that?"
>
>*shrug*
>pixie
>
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Subject: [mw] LG January 27th 2001 - Luke Slater and Doc Martin

LIQUID GROOVE
Saturday January 27th 2001
Atlanta GA

Main Room:

LUKE SLATER
(novamute recordings, UK)
A prodigious talent, Slater has long been at the forefront of British
techno. Coming to prominence in the early '90's, his name became synonymous
with a brutal and uncompromising sound. With such infamous works as Freek
Funk, All Exhale, and wireless to name a few, slater has proved to the world
that he is here to stay. Please welcome Luke slater for his first ever
Atlanta appearance.


DOC MARTIN
(wax records, tight, LA)


CLAY IVEY
(F-111, kinke, Atlanta)


ROOM 2

KOLIA
(liquid groove, lush)


CHRISTIAN MICHAEL
(upper managment, ATA, Atlanta)


SEXTRON 01 (live)
(SX.01-FidelityFlip-MAFDDAP)


NASIR
(playhouse, atlanta)


INFORMATION
18+ welcome w/ ID
Doors open at 11:00 PM
2 Rooms of Turbosound

Tickets:
Limited number of tickets for
$15
after they are gone $20


TICKET OUTLETS:
Buy tickets only from these stores
($1 surcharge at some locations)
Satellite 404-880-9746
Rewind 404-827-9463
Candy (Athens, GA) 706-549-0191
Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
Alices White Rabbit: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-918-0961
Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
Manifest: (Greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
Smoke: (Gainesville, FL) - 352-379-7670
Vinyl Fever (Tallahassee, FL) --850-580-3480


Location:
CELEBRATION HALL
Downtown Atlanta
181 Ralph David Abernathy

DIRECTIONS:
>From The North: Go I-75/85 south into downtown. Get off at the Futlon St/
Turner Field exit. At the light go right. Go to your 1st light (Pryor st)
and go left. Then go to your 2nd light (Ralph David Abernathy) and make a
left. Venue is on left across from Amaco

>From the South: Go I-75/85 north towards downtown. Get off at Fulton
st/Central Ave/ Dowtown exit. Stay to your right towards fulton st. Go to
your first light and go left. Go to your 2nd light (Pryor st.) and make a
left. Go to your 2nd light (Ralph David Abernathy) and go left. Venue is on
left.

>From the west: Go I-20 east to the Windsor St. / Spring St/ Turner Field
exit. Go Straight off the exit to your 2nd stop light (Pryor) and Go right.
Go to your 3rd light (Ralph David Abernathy) and Go left. Venue is on left.

>From The East: Go I-20 west to the Capital Ave / Downtown/ Ga Dome exit. Go
to your 1st light (Capital Ave) and make a left. Go to tyour 3rd light
(Georgia Ave) and go right. Go about 1 mile and venue is on the right across
from amaco.

Upcoming Events
Sat Feb. 3rd Richie Hawtin & John Acquaviva
Wed Feb 14th - Valentines day
Sat Feb 17th Carl Cox & Hybrid
Sat Feb 24th - 21 and over event
Sat March 10th - tba
Sat March 31st Liquified Universe

24 hour info
404-257-2515 www.liquified.com




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sweeeet. unfortunately, he is adept enough to know
there are blank floppies in the supply cabinet. 

go figure.
pixie

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> 
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> 
>    -bill


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>===== Original Message From jes <jes@pubnix.org> =====
>i got a frappuccino bottle with the expiration date of march, 1901!!!
>


And i bet you drank it anyway.  
/me watches j3s for telltale signs of frapuccino poisoning

     -bill


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from "The Daily Grind..." 

The Skowhegan resident was somewhat the worse for the
wear after his passage through the Hog. Police Chief
Butch Asselin said that the remains would be subjected
to DNA analysis for a positive ID, and added "I hope I
never, ever see anything like this, ever again. I had
a hard time sleeping last night." 

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> And i bet you drank it anyway.
> /me watches j3s for telltale signs of frapuccino poisoning

yes well, at least it wasn't the bottom of a bowling shoe.
/me watches atom for telltale signs of bowlingshoepoisoning

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Subject: [mw] Happy New Year - Words of Wisdom for the New  Millenium

before we get to the wisdom . . . i would like to thank everyone who has
supported hotwax in the year 2000.  we are very thankful for your business
and hope we can continue to serve you throughout the year 2001.  you have
helped us become bigger and much better than when we started, making it
possible for good music to spread throughout the midwest and inspire those
who are in search of something more than what is force fed to them.  we do
our best to serve you and will continue to do our best to serve you in any
way, shape or form.  help us continue to grow and become a great source of
music and gear for the artist and advanced listeners of the midwest and soon
the world (with our online shop).  thanks again for a great year.

new releases twice a week . . . every week!


These are great words of wisdom.  I want to share with as many as possible:
This is what The Dalai Lama has to say on the millennium, which
begins 01/01/2001. All it takes is a few seconds to read and
think about.

Instructions for Life in the new millennium from the Dalai
Lama:

1. Take into account that great love and great achievements
involve great risk.

2. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.

3. Follow the three Rs: respect for self, respect for
others responsibility for all your actions.

4. Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes
a wonderful stroke of luck.

5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them
properly.

6. Don't let a little dispute injure a great
friendship.

7. When you realize you've made a mistake, take
immediate steps to correct it.

8. Spend some time alone every day.

9. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your
values.

10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.

11. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get
older and think back, you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.

12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation
for your life.

13. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with
the current situation.Don't bring up the past.

14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve
immortality.

15. Be gentle with the earth.

16. Once a year, go someplace you've never been before.

17. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your
love for each other exceeds your need for each other.

18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in
order to get it.

19. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.

Do not keep this message. The mantra must leave your
hands within 96 hours.
You will get a very pleasant surprise (this is true
even if you are not superstitious) if you send it to:
0-4 people: Your life will improve slightly.
5-9 people: Your life will improve to your liking.
9-14 people: You will have at least 5 surprises in the
next 3 weeks.

15 people and above: Your life will improve drastically
and everything you ever dreamed of will begin to take shape.

hotwax "the dj wreck shop"
5 e. 8th st.
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fucking christ.  7 years on the internet and i've never been infected with 
a virus.  now, the streak is dead.  please avoid this:

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w95.hybris.gen.html

it fucks up your winsock and results in the guys in tech support thinking 
it might be a week before they have your machine fixed!  what am i supposed 
to at work now?  *scratches head*

anyway, just thought i should put some warning out, since most of the 
people i communicate with regularly via email are on these lists...tho i 
guess if you use web-based mail it's not really a threat.

mk, hoping he isn't the reason a firm-wide "virus alert" voice mail goes 
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http://www.nardwuar.com/kaysing/

mk

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no shit, paul mccartney wants my ass!

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this guy is so bloody dumb... i could go into it... but i really don't want
to... except to say i was bored enough to read this article, he got the
first moonlanding date wrong by a day (its the 20th of Jily not the 21st...
i know that cuz its my bday!)
and uhhh... you can't see stars in moon photos because it was daytime...
same reason you can't see stars during the daytime here on earth... the
glare of the sun... plus its not that hard to keep yourself cool in space...
you don't use fucking air conditioners like the guy being interviewed
implied.. space suits basically use water to keep someone cool... which now
that i think about it... is sort of like a normal a/c in principal...
anyways i'm starting to get into it... i'm gonna stop ranting

late

Eliot - The guy with glowsticks in his mohawk

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http://www.nardwuar.com/kaysing/

mk

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Ich dachte, dass es netter sein wuerde, wenn wir alle nur auf Englisch
posten, weil wir alle Englisch verstehen koennen. Nicht wahr? Am
wenigstens die Meisten von uns koennen.

Anyhow, I kinda figured that the general rule was that we all post in
English, since that's the language everyone speaks fluently on this list,
proper or not.

Aber ich kann zweimal jedes Post posten, einmal auf Englisch und das
zweite Mal auf Deutsch. Die deutsch sprechende Leute koennen seinen
Deutsch ueben.

As far as esperanza goes, feel free. Only thing is that it's kinda hard to
read esperanza if you don't know it really well. ;)

Also, das ist alles. Jetzt sehe ich Fern.

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Tad wrote:

> Now allowed to post bi-lingually? wtf?? were there ever any rules in place
> that posts must be made in english? god I hope not... I for one wish not to
> be subscribed to such a facist list... but if there is to be only one
> single language permitted on mw-raves, it simply must be esperanza.
>
> tad
>
> P.S. Becky please do post "auf deutsch" from now on.
>
> At 11:48 AM 1/2/01 -0500, Becky Wangenheim wrote:
> >
> >all i can say, is if we're now allowed to post bilingually, i from now on,
> >will post nur auf deutsch. sie muessen jetzt einen Uebersetzer benutzen,
> >wenn sie wissen wollen, was ich sage.


-- 
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>he got the first moonlanding date wrong by a day (its the 20th of Jily not 
>the 21st...
>i know that cuz its my bday!)

!bigups people with the 7.20 bday!  :D  it's mine too y0!

i didn't intend for anyone to take that thing seriously :P

mk

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Subject: [mw] Re: Sup?

>I dig just about anything as long as it's good (trance and happy
>hardcore, for example)

Heh... I figured this would ruffle a few feathers.  For some reason,
trance and happy hardcore are some of the more hated musics in the rave
scene.  Well... I know why people hate 'em so much.  But that isn't to
say that there aren't good tracks out there.

I can't stand rave drug dealers and similar sketchy people.  They just
bring the whole scene down.

And now with Y2K finally hitting.... what is the world coming to??  When
will we know our frappuccino and condoms expire?!  I'm headin' for the
hills.  :-)

Mike

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From mw-raves-return-13069-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 03 03:15:27 2001
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To: SPINNOEL@aol.com, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@world.std.com, boston-raves@ravedata.com, bostonparties@egroups.com, eastcoastravescene@egroups.com
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I'm really sorry if you felt this way. But I can tell you that we didn't 
have a Guest list at the time.Also Little P was'nt even there at the time, 
to confirm you in. It's really STRANGE THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAD A GOOD TIME 
EXCEPT FOR YOU.... But I think your anger has something to do with ,your 
friend Charles from Stark Mill, and my resistance to his bad business 
dealings. That is why he is out of business and so is STARK MILL. Also with 
YOUR failed attempt of "Go"(go away)@ RIPTIDE (Ripp-off). I just want to 
enlighten you on something ,a few GOOD promoters and club owners alike,hear 
your name (Leigh Mc Neil)and say I don't want those assholes in my Club, 
you... ruined your name... no one else. By being nasty, Pastey,skecthy, and 
shady .  That is why "GO" HAS GONE AWAY. This is what is said about 
you...Quote..."Leigh" is good use car saleman, but he  can't throw a party! 
unquote ".  Remember I've always been a person you could talk to, so there 
is no reason to attack me. If anyone doesn't beleive what I have said just 
call "Club Kraze". or call info on 603.668.5510. Now that the truth is out 
about you. I have said my piece. I will ignore any more posts,that you send 
about me. What goes around.... comes around.


>From: SPINNOEL@aol.com
>To: boston-raves@ravedata.com
>Subject: [B-R] Kharma (BAD!!!)
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:40:45 EST
>
>Can I just say my New Years was fucked
>
>     OK I originally was going to NY and that got canceled.  So, my friend
>Little P was playing in a headlining spot at Kharma's New Years Party.  "P"
>set me up with a comp for me and my wife..  I get there at 10:30, Ray is
>collecting money at the door and the place is dead.  I said that one of his
>DJ's set a comp up for me, he looks at me and says "Yeah right, not 
>here"...
>So Im thinking "Oh well no big deal"..  I hand the guy a 20 and he tells me
>its 20 each before I reach for more money.  Im shocked and I say " I 
>thought
>it was $15 each"..  He says "OK just give me another 10"..  At this point 
>Im
>pissed, I take the money out of his hand and say "Forget it Im leaving"..
>Can I just tell ya that was really fucking shady on his part.  I was really
>looking forward to listening to Little P's set to..  I deffinately would 
>not
>recommend that club to anyone for fun or for business...
>
>On a lighter note:
>
>         I left and went to a gay club in Manchester with my wife and my
>friends and had a blast  (10 bucks)!!!!!  Best lights and sound arrangement
>I've seen in NH...  No, Im not gay, but let me tell ya... the fags got it
>going on in Manchester....  There was easily 500 people if not more bangen
>music  and bangen vibe...
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i pahked my cah in hahvahd yahd.

mk

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--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> >he got the first moonlanding date wrong by a day
> (its the 20th of Jily not 
> >the 21st...
> >i know that cuz its my bday!)
> 
> !bigups people with the 7.20 bday!  :D  it's mine
> too y0!


wow and the day before  is mine!!! 

ALPha "has cancer too"

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Okay, I know this is mw-raves but give me a break... I know some of you
have or know where to get info about parties/club events in Florida, and
so I'm turning to those people.

We're going out of tow for two weeks to Orlando and Tampa, and I wanna
party my ass off... Where should we go? Where should I look for info?
Ravedata wasn't real helpful and I don't know if flraves@cat.net is
working anymore, I've gotten zero response from trying to sub to the
list... Is there a new fl-raves list?

peepholes, help me out here!?! puh-leese?

danke schoen!

-- 
-Becky =)

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try asking in the #fl-raves channel on the efnet. hehe dont ask me why i have 
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try egroups
cfl-raves, fl-raves     etc..

mike

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> Okay, I know this is mw-raves but give me a break... I know some of you
> have or know where to get info about parties/club events in Florida, and
> so I'm turning to those people.
> 
> We're going out of tow for two weeks to Orlando and Tampa, and I wanna
> party my ass off... Where should we go? Where should I look for info?
> Ravedata wasn't real helpful and I don't know if flraves@cat.net is
> working anymore, I've gotten zero response from trying to sub to the
> list... Is there a new fl-raves list?
> 
> peepholes, help me out here!?! puh-leese?
> 
> danke schoen!
> 
> -- 
> -Becky =)
> 
> wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
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hey everybody this is mike b in KC, my e-mail has been down for the last =
two weeks but now its back up again*sort of* if you've been trying to =
get ahold of me via email this is why i havent responded. the best way =
to ensure your message will get to me is make your messages out to both
mike@echobass.com (or echobass@echobass.com)
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Hey everyone,

I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking for a bit of =
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don't want to move there and then be bored out of my skull!!=20

Thanks for any help,=20

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What's up, this is probably a long shot but anyway...I'm trying to get 
ahold of someone I met at DBNNYE this year.  Her name is Natalie and I 
think she's from Madison, but I'm not completely sure.  She has brown hair 
and was wearing a white bandana, grey/blue sweater and blue pants at the 
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Subject: [mw] Tomorrow Night --  AcTiV8 -- Ben Kenobi, DJ Sezorgy

Sorry kids, I've been having some technical difficulties with my modem, and I 
just fixed it not ten minutes ago.  So here ya go....

Wednesday, January 3rd, 2001...    The first Activ8 of the year.
Denny's Creature Productions with DNA Labs

B E N   K E N O B I - Columbus - This guy spins so many styles that each 
night is a surprise.  Come see one of the most popular DJ's in the midwest.
D J   S E Z O R G Y - Cincinnati - As technology comes more into the 
forefront, DJ's are looking to new styles than just two tables and a mixer.  
This is one of those guys.  Come in for some live progressive house.

Along with residents:
D I G I T A L   P S Y K O S I S - Cincinnati - Could be one of his last 
performances in the Dayton area for a whilem as he will be taking off for 
sunny Florida soon.
G R E E N   T A R A - Dayton - One of the founders of Activ8, Tara is 
becoming one of the divas of the decks in the midwest.
D J   S O N I Q   S T Y L Z  - Dayton - New face on the rave scene, he has 
been touring the Dayton club scene for over five years.

Activ8 is located every Wednesday night at Sirens in Dayton
1130 E. Central Ave.,   937.866.6699

>From Cincinnati take I-75 south through Dayton, and get off at Exit 44 
(Cental Ave.), staying to the left.   Look for the shopping center on your 
left-hand side.
>From Columbus take I-70 West to I-675 South all the way to I-75 North.  Get 
off at the Kettering/Moraine exit and make a (legal) U-Turn at the light.  
Follow back under the highway looking for the shopping center on your 
left-hand side.

Cover is $5 under 21, $3 21+.

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
Denny's Creature Productions - Activ8
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/soniqstylz
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp
http://www.substancemusicusa.com
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I heard they got some good fried chicken.

>
>Hey everyone,
>
>I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking for a bit of information 
>about parties, clubs, sports, whatever, in the area. I don't want to move 
>there and then be bored out of my skull!!
>
>Thanks for any help,
>
>Kristen
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yeah, but you know when you read one of those things it makes you mad! =)
damn! another person i with a birthday right near mine! theres like a dozen
at least... either i just remember them cuz its by mine or alot of people
have sex... (counting months) at the end of september...
late =)

------Original Message------
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Subject: RE: [mw] and one giant conspiracy theory for all mankind



>he got the first moonlanding date wrong by a day (its the 20th of Jily not
>the 21st...
>i know that cuz its my bday!)

!bigups people with the 7.20 bday!  :D  it's mine too y0!

i didn't intend for anyone to take that thing seriously :P

mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] Information about Florida

Whgen you're in Tampa, check out Clearwater (not ravey/clubey) it's a 
beautiful beachfront resort town with an excellent, excellent atmosphere. 
Last time I was there I saw a dolphin like 15 feet away from me in the 
water.
Also check out Ybor City (correct spelling?) It's about ten or twenty 
minutes west/southwest of tampa and there's a lot of clubs/party kids that 
hang out there, or at least there was three years ago. The clubs are 
somewhat cheesy, the drugs are cheap and the town is very historic and 
beautiful.
I would go on but I'm tired and need a nap.

>
>Okay, I know this is mw-raves but give me a break... I know some of you
>have or know where to get info about parties/club events in Florida, and
>so I'm turning to those people.
>
>We're going out of tow for two weeks to Orlando and Tampa, and I wanna
>party my ass off... Where should we go? Where should I look for info?
>Ravedata wasn't real helpful and I don't know if flraves@cat.net is
>working anymore, I've gotten zero response from trying to sub to the
>list... Is there a new fl-raves list?
>
>peepholes, help me out here!?! puh-leese?
>
>danke schoen!
>
>--
>-Becky =)
>
>wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
>http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
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liqwid sound and untranslatable is the way to go in louisville. better days
is the record store. say hi to ben man. uh there's some big club there. i
cant remember the name but they play top 40 mixed with bad boy bill type
stuff. wierd. it's a pretty happenin' place from what i hear. im playing
down there (shameless plug) at Poop Stains 2 w/ DJ Irene andkid icarus
-malcolm


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>
>
>
> I heard they got some good fried chicken.
>
> >
> >Hey everyone,
> >
> >I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking for a bit of
information
> >about parties, clubs, sports, whatever, in the area. I don't want to move
> >there and then be bored out of my skull!!
> >
> >Thanks for any help,
> >
> >Kristen
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the flyer for that one online anywhere?  i wanna read about the vibe at
poop stains 1.

chad


On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, mike bradshaw wrote:

+liqwid sound and untranslatable is the way to go in louisville. better days
+is the record store. say hi to ben man. uh there's some big club there. i
+cant remember the name but they play top 40 mixed with bad boy bill type
+stuff. wierd. it's a pretty happenin' place from what i hear. im playing
+down there (shameless plug) at Poop Stains 2 w/ DJ Irene andkid icarus
+-malcolm
+
+
+----- Original Message -----
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+To: <kthatcher@home.com>; <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
+Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 12:27 AM
+Subject: Re: [mw] looking for info about Kentucky
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+>
+>
+>
+> I heard they got some good fried chicken.
+>
+> >
+> >Hey everyone,
+> >
+> >I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking for a bit of
+information
+> >about parties, clubs, sports, whatever, in the area. I don't want to move
+> >there and then be bored out of my skull!!
+> >
+> >Thanks for any help,
+> >
+> >Kristen
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even yucky spinitch tastes like punkin pie... when i'm with you
ooooooooh
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Which reminds me....   has anyone heard the RATM cover of "Pistol Grip Pump". 
 I think they did a pretty good job with it.

meep

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"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

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Subject: [mw] Feb 10th Valentine Jam

Superstars of Love's 7 year Valentine Anniversary

LOVETRONIC  
02.10.01  St. Louis
featuring:

Detroit Grand Pu Bahs - Jive Electro Detroit

Ming & FS on four turntables - New York City

DJ Assault - Mo' Wax - Detroit's Ghettotech Master

Tomamerica - that crazy guy from Chicago

All Time High - Live from Uranus

Hypo Vs Astrix - Live Techno PA
Bodaleg - Boogie Knights Bitch
Justin Foster - this kid rocks
Pepe - weird stuff

http://www.superstarsoflove.com

Lovetronic is all about our love and dedication to
electronic dance music culture over the past 7 years.
As with all of our events, expect an unparalled
production with multiple full colored real Lasers,
expertly programmed intelligent lighting, heart
thumping sound system, inspiring visuals & decoration.

Star-crossed lovers slow dance all night long in the
Unearthly ambient lounge hosted by Cupid played by
performance artist TJ Richter the human comic book.

Come fall in love-  this party will get you laid!
call # 314-994-1114 for FREE PHONE SEX

if ya want to see our ground-breaking flyer inspired
by the best pharmaceutical prescription drups only
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whats up everyone, hope u all had a happy new year.....
The Long Island Underground Source=20
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for now, here are a few events comin up for January.......

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Coalition Management. Distort909.=20
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this Thursday,
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Legend
@ Limelight 660 6th ave@20th st NYC

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$20 @ the door
10pm - ???
18 & over
Guest List : Distort909 (212) 615 - 6915


Friday January 5th 2001=20
Shock Treatment Invites you to share a night of....

BLISS

Djs of the night include:
Delirium [hardcore]
Mumblz [hardcore]
Myth i-s [hard trance]
Spacemonk-e [it's a secret]
Missing Link [jungle]
Grooveblender
vs.
Smilee [hard house]
Rankin [hard acid trance]
                             first nyc appearance!!!
Pappa Smurf [hard house]
Wize [jungle]
Dnob [hardcore]
Valenzi [multi trance]

Location: Voodoo Lounge, Bayside Queens
Admission: 21+ $10
                  18+ $12 (very lenient)
Doors open at 8pm
Absolutely no drug tolerance!
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i met tony sebion in real life.
heather, tony and i went to dbnye.
we saw atomly and rob.
supposedly chris was there, but we did not see chris.
everything was decent except for the people.
they sucked.
they were boring and unexcitable.
we tried to "shake things up" to no avail
woe world woe

thanks for the multiple rides tony-dawg.


love you all.
happy

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> A little over a year ago I discovered the house track Bring 
> it Back and 
> *really* liked it a lot..  I hadn't heard it in about a half 
> a year until 
> yesterday.  I was just wondering if any of you knew of any 
> mixes online that 
> contained this song or have the mp3 of it just laying around 
> you could send 
> me.
well if jen can say she liked a house track i can say...
i have a double on f111 of mixes of this track
and the house of lords mix is not bad for the beginning portion(i would say
intro but its like 2-3 minutes long, and would make a nice track
on its own)
the rest of it, and the other tracks are crap, but the original is..."fun"

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i also met tony sebion in real life.

oh wait,
-me

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i met tony sebion in real life.

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> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 12:44 PM
> today is boring, do something funny!

well december 29 i was in chicago.
i did something funny there, i really think so.
i'll tape it next time.

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Greetings,

I have just recently placed a few of my Nu Skool/Intelligent breaks =
tracks online. There are six new tracks in all. The six new tracks are =
all vaguely Nu Breaks/Leftfiled styles, and include The Arrival, A =
Soul's Divide, Gattahattika, Carded, The Manchester Blues and Without =
Breaks.

I look forward to any feedback anyone might have on any of these tracks, =
thanks =3D)

Facter.
http://www.mp3.com/facter


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Check out Nu sKool Breakz on www.mp3.com/illicitly

"we make music down there, all the week/and I have to say, away from the =
club, the band is even better/we make a noise like I've never known, =
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time in years, I'm actually playing something/all the smalltown dregs of =
flair get magnified and yer know what, I can't help falling in love with =
the whole idea of being brilliant/to be myself at last, lost in the =
rhythm"

Jeff Noon - /Needle in the Groove/ - Purveyor of Pollen, Master of Vurt.




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Don't drink the water. Don't ask, just trust me on this one.

shawne
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  Hey everyone,

  I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking for a bit of =
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There's also good things happening in Lexington :) There's 3-4 crews here in town who do parties for pretty much every taste from very large to more intimate. So it all depends on where you are moving to :)


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what part of Kentucky?  Kentucky is spread out.  So
the best way to help ya is if we knew what part you
were considering.


--- Kristen <kthatcher@home.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking
> for a bit of information about parties, clubs,
> sports, whatever, in the area.  I don't want to move
> there and then be bored out of my skull!! 
> 
> Thanks for any help, 
> 
> Kristen
> 


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>
>Hey everyone,
>
>I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking for a bit of informat=
ion =

>about parties, clubs, sports, whatever, in the area. I don't want to mov=
e =

>there and then be bored out of my skull!!
>
>Thanks for any help,
>
>Kristen


yo, i have some friends in frankfort, ky who party a lot.  i can pass on =
their
email addy if you want it.  i've been down there before, and while i didn=
't
get to party, i sure met a few partykids and heard about some hotspots.

peace,

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FLORENCE, Y'ALL

m watertower k
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Kristen <kthatcher@home.com> wrote:

>>  I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking
>>  for a bit of information about parties, clubs,
>>  sports, whatever, in the area.  I don't want to move
>>  there and then be bored out of my skull!!


There's BOURBON there.  It's pretty good.  I recommend Knob Creek, 
Makers Mark, and Bookers.  With Bourbon, you're never bored out of 
your skull.
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> FLORENCE, Y'ALL
> 
> m watertower k
hahahahaha

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i also noticed that BIG BONE LICK has recently been immortalized on 
www.ilovebacon.com 's funny road signs.  wicked.

where's the blue grass,
mk

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i found this list on the net a while back and was shock/embarrassed/tickl=
ed
when i realized a lot of it applied to me.  since then i re-wrote it a bi=
t and
added more stuff.  check it out you poopie senile ol'raverfarts....

you know you're a jaded old-schooler when:

-You snicker when you hear someone say "PLUR".  =

-You learn to spin, and therefore have graduated to the "superior rave
status".  =

-You find out just how crooked promoters really are.  =

-You hate massive raves.  =

-You blame candy kids for everything retarded in the scene.  =

-You say "the scene" a lot. =

-You find out how much better european electronic music really is. =

-You find out that glow sticks were cool TEN years ago in the UK.  =

-You have pretended to be rolling at a party just to get a quick laugh ou=
t of
your friends
-When you ARE on E, you do your best to act normal.  =

-You realize how cool hiphop is. =

-You realize how lame progressive trance is.  =

-You find out that American DJ's are completely overrated.  =

-You have close friends who don't give a shit about raving. =

-You think that maybe YOU don't really give a shit either.  =

-The smell of Vicks makes you physically sick. =

-You can't help but laugh when someone tries to give you a "glow stick sh=
ow".

-You learn to break. =

-If you want to actually "roll," you have to eat about four pills at once=
=2E =

-You can get those four pills for the same price that everyone else pays =
for
one.  =

-You drink beer at after parties.  =

-You quit collecting fliers.  =

-You can't remember the last time you went to a party and didn't think it=

sucked. =

-You can't remember much in general.
-You realize that ravers aren't nearly as genuine as the hippies were. =

-You wouldn't mind if that kid with the whistle accidentally swallowed it=
 and
died. =

-You are actually called by your real name. =

-You have a job. =

-You realize that the general public shoudln't be blamed for hating raves=
=2E  =

-You talk shit as much as possible. =

-You value things in terms of vinyl, (ex: "that's a two record dinner.") =

-You have seen a thirteen year old "raver" on ecstasy and felt like leavi=
ng
the party because of it.  =

-You no longer feel the need to advertise your "rave-ness" to the world. =
 =

-You know that post-rave sex is awful.  =

-You can determine where a raver is from just by the way they dance.  =

-You know that european ravers can't dance worth a shit.
-You find out that underground parties still happen quite frequently, des=
pite
what 98% of the raving populous thinks.  =

-You party sober and now understand how stupid you looked when you didn't=
=2E  =

-You know who PRODUCED your favorite tracks, not just which DJ bought it =
and
put it on a mix CD.  =

-You read URB.  =

-Your parents gave up on you becoming normal a long, long time ago. =

-You love electro and minimal techno now. =

-You could out-dance any boy band, any day, while smoking a cigarette. =

-You begin to notice how often big DJ's blow mixes. =

-You think sweaty guys who run around the party shirtless should get thro=
wn
out. =

-You act like a punk-ass bitch to security, police, and any other authori=
ty. =


-You purposely wear way too much clothing to parties, because you know th=
at
dancing in a fur coat looks fucking ill. =

-You say "ill" a lot.  =

-You have replaced Caffiene, JNCO, and Adidas with Technics, Vestax, and =
JBL.

-You know that raving is all about the music, but RAVERS are not.  =

-You find the hiphop room much more appealing now.  =

-You get mad when you walk into McDonald's and they're playing dance musi=
c.  =

-You know raving is mainstream as fuck.  =

-The bigger the flier, the less you want to go to the party. =

-You can re-tell the story of how raving came to America quite accurately=
=2E  =

-You hate Trance Anthem tracks. =

-you buy music by the record label, not by artist or title
-you get mad when people think that hiphop made in 1988-94 is old-school =

-you can remember when tribe called quest was together
-you replace your hoodie with an expensive leather jacket =

-your arms make funny noises when you try to dance liquid
-your grandparents know you do E
-you have your own record label / graphic design company , no matter how
small
-you hate rave ho's because you dated one
-you get in arguments with people about whether sex on E is better or not=

-you think cocaine is more "mature"
-you only smoke out of hand-blown glass
-your mixtape collection fills three cases
-candykids constantly ask you to explain the different kinds of "electron=
ica"
to them =

-you love explaining the different kinds of "electronica"
-you find yourself on napster looking for names like "laurent garnier" an=
d
"jeff mills"
-you've discovered the wild, wacky world of prescription drugs
-you're into legal hallucinagens with big names like "ayahuasca"
-you order them off the internet
-You sit around with friends and tell old "rave disaster" stories. =

-You are amazed that you are somehow still alive. =


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Subject: [mw] columbus underground partee!

hey, whassup columbus ohio massssssive!!!!

okay, i had a kickass new year's party at my house, and part of the pleas=
ant
aftermath is that my basement now looks like a club.  i have mad decorati=
ons,
lights, and stuff, and a small PA down there.  i'd really like to have so=
me
more parties, with dj's and partykids and stuff.  i've got all the gear, =
the
dj's, and the records, but i need some party people!  =


i can fit about 25-50 folks down there, with a chill out lounge & second =
PA
upstairs.  my main concern, of course, are the usual shady fucks that alw=
ays
show up at k-lumbus (props, pixie!) parties.  if you saw my ealier post y=
ou
know i had it up to, ummm, *here* with sketchballs.  =


if there's some real party kids and dj's out there who'd like to throw an=

invite-only all-niter house partay at my pad soon, please respond.  i'd l=
ove
to meet new people and hear some new sounds!  i just want to keep everyth=
ing
and everyone safe and happy.  =


if you're interested, you can email me at kellmans@kenyon.edu (i suck at
checking the mechaproductions addy).  maybe we could make ID cards for
everyone...  anyway, if you're looking for a safe and fun party all nite,=
 get
your dj on, or meet other columbus kids, get in touch w/ me.

peace,

catnap  =


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Subject: [mw] i'm back.

heheheh.

yeah. with a vengeance. :)

if any of you fuckers happen to be in dayton tonight, come out to sirens
(activ8) cuz it's my birthday and we gonna get ROWDAY! :)

lauryn.

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> -You find out how much better european electronic music really is. 
uhh....

> -You realize how lame progressive trance is.  
well yeah.

> -You find out that American DJ's are completely overrated.  
uhhh...

> -You have close friends who don't give a shit about raving. 
> -You think that maybe YOU don't really give a shit either.  
think that maybe? ha

> -You can't help but laugh when someone tries to give you a 
> "glow stick show".


> -You learn to break. 
hrmmm

> -If you want to actually "roll," you have to eat about four 
> pills at once. 
uhhh

> -You drink beer at after parties.  
and preparties
and in the line
and at the party...

> -You quit collecting fliers.  
i dont have a flier wall...i have a box and some writing on a wall next to a
(working) toilet that says
"please feel free to wipe your ass with a flier"
does that make me oldschool?

> -You realize that ravers aren't nearly as genuine as the 
> hippies were. 
i wasnt around for the hippies

> -You wouldn't mind if that kid with the whistle accidentally 
> swallowed it and
> died. 
well duh

> -You are actually called by your real name. 
no, they call me carebear

> -You talk shit as much as possible. 
fuck you

> -You have seen a thirteen year old "raver" on ecstasy and 
> felt like leaving
> the party because of it.  
no way!
thats the only reason i go!

> -You no longer feel the need to advertise your "rave-ness" to 
> the world.  
thats because no one can be more rave than the late doris payer
(the late because she isnt onlist)

> -You know that post-rave sex is awful.  
no sex is awful silly

> -You party sober and now understand how stupid you looked 
> when you didn't.  
no.
i knew then too.

> -You read URB.  
THAT makes you oldschool?

> -You love electro and minimal techno now. 
hmm

> -You could out-dance any boy band, any day, while smoking a 
> cigarette. 
i dont smoke

> -You begin to notice how often big DJ's blow mixes. 
begin?

> -You purposely wear way too much clothing to parties, because 
> you know that
> dancing in a fur coat looks fucking ill. 
fur is so passe

> -You say "ill" a lot.  
i say "kind"...starting...now.

> -You know that raving is all about the music, but RAVERS are not.  
hahaaha.
neither.

> -You find the hiphop room much more appealing now.  
do you become more redundant too?

> -You get mad when you walk into McDonald's and they're 
> playing dance music.  
i get mad when im miniature golfing and i hear binary finary

> -You know raving is mainstream as fuck.  
so is being a jaded-olschool raver 

> -The bigger the flier, the less you want to go to the party. 
no.
i got a big flier not too long ago and i wanted to go.
i didnt
but assault and alexi delano.
less than 3 hours away even.
ahh

> -You can re-tell the story of how raving came to America 
> quite accurately.  
you mean you can read books?

> -You hate Trance Anthem tracks. 
i hate trance _____ tracks

> -you buy music by the record label, not by artist or title
i buy music by the track

> -you get mad when people think that hiphop made in 1988-94 is 
> old-school 
i get mad when people talk about hiphop a lot in raverlisteys

> -you replace your hoodie with an expensive leather jacket 
again with the animal hide

> -your arms make funny noises when you try to dance liquid
hrm?

> -your grandparents know you do E
hrm?

> -you hate rave ho's because you dated one
oh THATS why i hate em!

> -you get in arguments with people about whether sex on E is 
> better or not
uhh

> -you think cocaine is more "mature"
uhh

> -you only smoke out of hand-blown glass
no comment

> -your mixtape collection fills three cases
wheres the hardcore?

> -candykids constantly ask you to explain the different kinds 
> of "electronica"
> to them 
uhhh

> -you love explaining the different kinds of "electronica"
whats "electronica"?

> -you find yourself on napster looking for names like "laurent 
> garnier" and
> "jeff mills"
i find myself in jesus christ

> -you've discovered the wild, wacky world of prescription drugs
hrmm

> -you're into legal hallucinagens with big names like "ayahuasca"
thats not a big name!

> -you order them off the internet
its quicker

> -You sit around with friends and tell old "rave disaster" stories. 
hrmm

> -You are amazed that you are somehow still alive. 
yeah with all that e, cocaine, electronica and all i would be too!


carry on

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do you want to trade bracelets?

mkandie

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yeah, you definately pass the bitchy old-schooler test.  ;)  oh, and ther=
e's a
reason why "electronica" is in quotes....

peace,

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In a message dated 1/3/01 3:01:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
lgoller@indiana.edu writes:

<< if any of you fuckers happen to be in dayton tonight, come out to sirens
 (activ8) cuz it's my birthday and we gonna get ROWDAY! :) >>

I THINK I'm gonna be there, but I'm not sure, depends on the weather....

oh wait,...

*grin*

meep

 - Soniq

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bang the box and take requests!"

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let me respond to these, slightly differently, but still micah style...

-----Original Message-----
From: simon kellman 
Subject: [mw] you know you're old-school when....

you know you're a jaded old-schooler when:

-You snicker when you hear someone say "PLUR".  
i assume they're kidding.  you're kidding, right?

-You think that maybe YOU don't really give a shit either.  
and not just about raving

-You learn to break. 
... stuff, and i always knew how.

-You are actually called by your real name. 
from now on, will everyone call me tony? thanks.

-You have a job. 
and i'm jaded there too

-You know that post-rave sex is awful.  
not when there's a shower involved

-You think sweaty guys who run around the party shirtless should get thrown
out. 
damn, i was thinking that was one of the only reasons left to go.

-You purposely wear way too much clothing to parties, because you know that
dancing in a fur coat looks fucking ill. 
(nod) guilty in concept, but wtf is w/ the fur?  fur is for drag queens and
NYC slumlords (that look like drag queens)

-you can remember when tribe called quest was together
uh, how about when tribe called quest had 4 members?

-you're into legal hallucinagens with big names like "ayahuasca"
of all the black teenage singers, she's my favorite.  i think.

-You are amazed that you are somehow still alive. 
everyday... everyday...



ok, now someone please post the raver manifesto and we can start 2001 off
right.

plurry love,
-t

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Don't try to trade bracelets with Brandon!  He's just a ravah ho who'll
steal all of your candy and leave you crying into your stuffed animal!

Plur and kisses,
Tom

michael knight wrote:

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> mkandie
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Subject: [mw] micah the pussy

you had better show up in dayton, or else amanda and i will come get your
bitch ass from your house and tie you up and drive you to sirens.

i so want to spank you tonight.


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-- 
-Becky =)

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> Don't try to trade bracelets with Brandon!  He's just a ravah ho who'll
> steal all of your candy and leave you crying into your stuffed animal!

I'm more post-kandie now... I've moved into the Internet Rave E-Jay phase.
Now I can finally distribute my very own original rave e-jay mp3s at a
fraction of the cost of other e-jay dance music making systems. talk about
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> 
>> G R E E N   T A R A - Dayton - One of the founders of Activ8, Tara 
> is 
> becoming one of the divas of the decks in the midwest.
> 

  I am NOT a diva!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                  Dood...no no...I'm not a Dood either...

                                                 I'm ugh...um....a
DWEEEEEB

         so lets rephrase.

                  GREEN TARA-Dayton- One of the founders of Activ8, Tara
is becoming one of the dweebs of the decks in the midwest.



                                                          

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> the rest of it, and the other tracks are crap, but
> the original is..."fun"

somehow i think my old neighbors would disagree...

like i care
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I'll be sure and take that into account for next week.

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green tara!?!  aye yuy yuy.  one time we were supposed to hang out, but she 
never called.  but then again, neither did my mom on my 18th bday.  cheers, 
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Just an FYI about UNO, there's a story about some arrests made there in the 
Enquirer today and it got a little blurb this morning on the news that I 
saw.  It'll probably be on the evening news tonight as well...
Too bad that space is gone now...was a nice venue, save the icy walk to the 
bathrooms.
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> 
> > -You drink beer at after parties.  
> and preparties
> and in the line
> and at the party...

i would like to thank tony for hosting the "preparty" for dbnys. ummm, i
thought i had something else to say but i don't think i do. OH YEAH! the
best part of the real party was being drunk in line. BIG UP THE CANDY
RAVER THAT DROPPED ALL THE SMARTIES!!!


coca cola in excess tends to make one selfish, avoid this
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> Too bad that space is gone now...was a nice venue,
> save the icy walk to the 
> bathrooms.

yeah, the space was pretty nice, and as for the
ice...it is my opinion that if a promoter is going to
throw a party that has been planned for quite some
time, and it has already been snowing and icy for a
few days prior to the party, then it might be a good
idea to go prepared with some bags of salt. just a
thought. although it would have cut down on the
amusement of watching people slide and fall on their
asses, a couple of people ended up with some pretty
badly bruised tailbones, myself included. 

another thought (not uno related, but rave
related)...people bitch so much about spaces these
days, too small, too dirty, too whatever, but the one
that gets me is "this space has been used too many
times." don't get me wrong, i love a new space just as
much as the next person, and i understand why people
get bored of the same spaces, but when a scene like
ours has reached a point where negative media is the
norm and almost every weekend another city has an
expose on the local news, or a hidden camera that
shows all the drugs, or another kid od's, or people
disrespect the space and vandalize and destroy it,
people can't expect that there are going to be many
space owners who are open to providing a place for
that to go on. if someone is willing to let their
space be used again after already going through it
once, i'd say we're pretty lucky.

bleh. rant off.
pixie


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HARMONY PRODUCTIONS -- LIVE DJ Sessions!
Broadcast Originates from the HARMONY STUDIOS in
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Tonight --- Wed. Jan. 03, 2001
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---- New lineup weekly -----

listen 24/7 for regular broadcasting  (just click on Listen Live!)
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Louisville, the job offer came in this morning.... Not sure I want to leave
  my secure home here
  in Vancouver just yet :)
  
  Kristen
  
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  > what part of Kentucky?  Kentucky is spread out.  So
  > the best way to help ya is if we knew what part you
  > were considering.
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  > >
  > > I am thinking of moving to Kentucky and am looking
  > > for a bit of information about parties, clubs,
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<<this is most funny because 98% of mw-raves won't get the joke or
reference>>

I don't know...it seems anywhere I go in this country, if any of the people
I meet have ever been to Cincinnati they always go "You know Florence
Y'all??"

in ohio not kentucky
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> > FLORENCE, Y'ALL
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How are you all doing. Hope your new year is going great. I was wondering if 
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mark eg in omaha this weekend.. not sure when or where.. fri or sat.. peep 
www.syquil.com

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Subject: [mw] EXOTICA! - January 14th

ADRENALINE presents:
   SUNDAY JANUARY 14th, 2001
   (Martin Luther King Holiday on Monday)

*** EXOTICA! ***

:: featuring ::
   Mixin Marc | Paul Anthony & Jes One | DJ Loverboy | Alex Peace
   Chris Tomasone | DJ Speed | DJ Wizzkid

:: hosted by ::
   Miss June 2000 Playboy Playmate Shannon Stewart

The theme for the evening will be exotica. Dancing divas, drag queens,
and out of the world entertainers will set the tone for a truly crazy
Ibiza style night. We urge everyone to express their creativity and be
a part of the show. Come dressed in the sexiest or wildest outfits
imaginable and you could win a FREE trip to Cancun for Spring Break!
Come experience for the first time what interactive clubbing is all
about!

T. Orlando from
<a href="http://www.Nuklearfusion.com">www.nuklearfusion.com</a>
will be at Exotica! in search of the Nuklearfusion BABE OF THE WEEK, so 
ladies... look sexy, hot, and EXOTIC! The winner of BABE OF THE WEEK
wins the trip to CANCUN

Studio 21 (formerly Club GQ)
2121 East New York Street, Aurora, IL
Strictly 18 & Over / 21 to drink
9pm - 4am / $15 Tickets
Info:630/415.3464
<a href="http://www.adrenaliney2k.com">www.adrenaliney2k.com</a>

TICKETS AVAILABLE NOW FOR $15 @
Superdance *Arlington Hts* 847/577.1234 
Another Level *Schaumburg* 847/882.9165 
Mix-A-Lots *Naperville* 630/848.0788 
Supreme *Chicago (North)* 773/862.7047 
Another Level *Chicago (South)* 773/767.5732 
Grooveshop *Rockford* 815/229.7375 
Audio Depot *Madison* 608/251.2000

***The reponse we have already received for this party has been
overwhelming. This is shaping up to be one of our biggest event yet! 
Tickets are strongly advised to guarantee a speedy VIP entrance and stay 
out of the cold! A limited number are available so get them today! 

============================================================
SPRING BREAK WITH ADRENALINE IN CANCUN!
Adrenaline is heading south for Spring Break this year and you are
invited! Join us as we invade the superclubs of Cancun and bring with us
your favorite DJs; Mixin Marc, Alex Peace, DJ Loverboy, DJ Speed, Chris
Tomasone, Breakdown B, Billy the Kid, DJ Caffeine and more! 
SIGNUP THROUGH ADRENALINE AND SAVE!
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The party is on Friday, January 5
Our address is 1312 N. Astor St, upper.  Milwaukee WI

Take 94 (from where ever you are) to I-43N.  (In Milwaukee)
Exit Hwy145 Broadway/4th St.
The freeway will come to an end.
Take a Right on Jefferson
Take a Left on Ogden
Take a Right on Astor.

Exactly half way down the block on the Left hand side.

Show up anytime.  Yen is saying 7-ish..

We had some issues with the landlords.  We were going to do this in our 
basement, but now the decks have to be set up in our empty spare bedroom.  
Blah.

Kegs will probably be here, $5 a cup will keep you drinkin all night, but you 
can bring your own.  We might have the big tubs with ice, provided aRNO 
decides to make an appearance.  Bring some of your posse.

414.460.3485 will get ahold of bekka
414.378.3305 will get ahold of jen

-Jen

- "People are stupid, and it's inhumane to not remind them"

- "As much as I definetly enjoy solitude, I wouldn't mind, perhaps, spending little time with you"

Jen Anderson
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Amanda is a *SWEETHEART* farthest thing from a bitch I've ever met... a
veritable pussycat... how funny she tries to play off as a bitch... she
couldn't hurt a fly the sweet thang.

tad

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>===== Original Message From Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> =====
>Amanda is a *SWEETHEART* farthest thing from a bitch I've ever met... a
>veritable pussycat... how funny she tries to play off as a bitch... she
>couldn't hurt a fly the sweet thang.
>
>tad

I've had an encounter with Amanda myself and also thought she was a very 
charming and sweet woman.  Not to mention VERY sexy in her at-the-time new 
outfit.


Jen

- "People are stupid, and it's inhumane to not remind them"

- "As much as I definetly enjoy solitude, I wouldn't mind, perhaps, spending little time with you"

Jen Anderson
Milwaukee, WI
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In a message dated 1/4/01 2:39:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
sixtybus@milwpc.com writes:

<< I've had an encounter with Amanda myself and also thought she was a very 
 charming and sweet woman.  Not to mention VERY sexy in her at-the-time new 
 outfit.
 
 
 Jen >>

oh no.. is that the time I made her wet?

hahahahhahahahahah

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its not friday, he's in madison then.

-t

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mark eg in omaha this weekend.. not sure when or where.. fri or sat.. peep 

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if i would've known that we were gonna be drinkin before going to the party,
i shoulda had a real party, oh well, next time...

-t

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> 
> > -You drink beer at after parties.  

i would like to thank tony for hosting the "preparty" for dbnys. 

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Subject: Re: [mw] Isysy (bitch hah whatever)

: couldn't hurt a fly the sweet thang.

ask the winey ass trance dj who was bitchin all night about the bruise on
his leg from me kickin him....then hear him say i cant hurt a fly

bite me jackass !

-THE bitch iySyS-

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> you had better show up in dayton, or else amanda and i will 
> come get your
> bitch ass from your house and tie you up and drive you to sirens.
> 
> i so want to spank you tonight.
> 
> 
> love and snuggles,


first off, i did show up in dayton(i live there/here)
second off, amanda and becky did NOT show up at my house nor did they tie me
up nor did I get
driven anywhere, nor did I go to sirens.
nor did i get spanked.

you are all talk, the both of ya
(yes, i am sure I will regret that)

hate and static cling,

the micah

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who is ben kenob?

is that ben kenobi's kid brother?

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> OH YEAH! the
> best part of the real party was being drunk in line. BIG UP THE CANDY
> RAVER THAT DROPPED ALL THE SMARTIES!!!
no way!
the best part of dbnye was when heather and I walked past a cute little
raver couple sitting on the floor
and the following event "transpired":

micah(to heather): "damn my ass is sticky"
   I look to my right and realize those two little ravers probably heard my
comment so I explain
micah(to ravers): "yes, i said my ass is sticky, but its not what you may
think! i swear, its because the floor over there where
			we were sitting was sticky.  i swear it. just
thought i'd explain"
ravers(to micah): *look of confusion* *giggle* *blink* *blink*

god bless america

that or watching super-fucked-up-man LEAP into richters setup, that was
great.

he must have thought it was a fire.

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> reason why "electronica" is in quotes....

"and the reason would be?"

("personally I think its because everything should be
in quotes")

"everyone in quotes"
"the gap"
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>  i have mad decorations,
I have mad cow disease.

rightooo

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--- simon kellman <mechaproductions@usa.net> wrote:
> i found this list on the net a while back and was
> shock/embarrassed/tickled
> when i realized a lot of it applied to me.  since
> then i re-wrote it a bit and
> added more stuff.  check it out you poopie senile
> ol'raverfarts....
I love these things, they aren't funny the first time,
and get even worse after the 1,000th.
But since I don't want Micah to have all the fun, I
thought I would anoy you all once more.
you love it, just admit it!
> 
> you know you're a jaded old-schooler when:
> 
> -You snicker when you hear someone say "PLUR".
or that they have mad "fill in the blank"
p.s. "everyone in quotes"
  
> -You learn to spin, and therefore have graduated to
> the "superior rave
> status".
I learned to spin at about age 3 or 4, so I came into
this bitch with "superior rave status" ("everyone in
quotes").  Of course I use to do it way too much and
puke on myself so I stopped at around age 10, and now
I just drink in order to puke on myself!
  
> -You find out just how crooked promoters really are.
not one silly thing to say about this one, eh..uh..oh
well, one thing
"everyone in quotes"
>  
> -You hate massive raves. 
Been to massive tent at raves a few times, but never
been to a massive rave.  So when is Matt throwing the
next Massive Rave?
 
> -You blame candy kids for everything retarded in the
> scene.
someones gotta be the scapegoat!
Its actually my fault for everything being retarded in
the scene, but don't tell everyone!

> -You say "the scene" a lot.
I also say "ass monkey" a lot
"everyone in quotes"
 
> -You have pretended to be rolling at a party just to
> get a quick laugh out of
> your friends
dude look I'm rolling 
hahahaha
hehehe
heh

> -When you ARE on E, you do your best to act normal.
yes I try not to panic before getting to the next gas
station.
If one is determined that he will be soaked from the
beginning, he will not be suprised when he.....sorry
watching that damn movie too much.
> 
> -You realize how cool hiphop is.
Sorry, been listening to hip hop since I was in
elementary school, I didn't just realize this
amazingly while reading quoted things.

> -You realize how lame progressive trance is.
well duh

> -You find out that American DJ's are completely
> overrated. 
And fuck you very much too.
Let me retort, and how overpriced and overrated the
big name euro supasta Dj's are.

> -You have close friends who don't give a shit about
> raving. 
> -You think that maybe YOU don't really give a shit
> either.
never have, never will

> -You can't help but laugh when someone tries to give
> you a "glow stick show".
I think that makes everyone laugh!

OK I don't have time for anymore, so thats all yer
getting, ya fucks

peace
"everyone in quotes"

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Subject: Re: [mw] Isysy (bitch hah whatever)

either you've never tried to wake her up in the
morning, or you've never worn candy ;]

anyway, i'm sure you're right about the flies, but as
far as pixies go, she generally slaps me upside the
head anytime she feels like it.

isysy?
pixie

--- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Amanda is a *SWEETHEART* farthest thing from a bitch
> I've ever met... a
> veritable pussycat... how funny she tries to play
> off as a bitch... she
> couldn't hurt a fly the sweet thang.
> 
> tad


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Subject: RE: [mw] micah the pussy

> > i so want to spank you tonight.
> > 
> > 
> > love and snuggles,
> 
> 
> first off, i did show up in dayton(i live
> there/here)
> second off, amanda and becky did NOT show up at my
> house nor did they tie me
> up nor did I get
> driven anywhere, nor did I go to sirens.
> nor did i get spanked.

did you get love and snuggles?

downy.
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let me reply with just about any conversation i've ever had w/ a cute little
raver couple.

me (saying something) : blah blha blah
ravers: *look of confusion* *giggle* *blink* *blink*

my mom collects precious moments figurines, i think you had an interaction
with a pair of them.

-t

ps - i apologize for leaping into tj richter's set.  the synethesia was
getting to me.  and i needed to pee on someone.

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micah(to heather): "damn my ass is sticky"
   I look to my right and realize those two little ravers probably heard my
comment so I explain
micah(to ravers): "yes, i said my ass is sticky, but its not what you may
think! i swear, its because the floor over there where
			we were sitting was sticky.  i swear it. just
thought i'd explain"
ravers(to micah): *look of confusion* *giggle* *blink* *blink*

god bless america

that or watching super-fucked-up-man LEAP into richters setup, that was
great.

he must have thought it was a fire.


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Subject: Re: [mw] Isysy (bitch hah whatever)

Pardon my drunk self.
Ugh.
Slapping someone upside the head does not make one a bitch.  Even kicking
some poor effete trance-type dj in the knee doesnt make on a bitch.


tad

At 06:38 AM 1/4/01 -0800, pixie wrote:
>either you've never tried to wake her up in the
>morning, or you've never worn candy ;]
>
>anyway, i'm sure you're right about the flies, but as
>far as pixies go, she generally slaps me upside the
>head anytime she feels like it.
>
>isysy?
>pixie
>
>--- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Amanda is a *SWEETHEART* farthest thing from a bitch
>> I've ever met... a
>> veritable pussycat... how funny she tries to play
>> off as a bitch... she
>> couldn't hurt a fly the sweet thang.
>> 
>> tad
>
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Subject: [mw] Fw: poopstain skinny!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: booth <djbooth_99@yahoo.com>
To: <mike@echobass.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 4:26 AM
Subject: poopstain skinny!!!


> please forward this to any and everyone you know!!! 
> Thanks everybody!!!!  This is going to be so much more
> off the hook than last year!!!!!  peace Dj Booth
> 
> THE SKINNY ON DA' POOPSTAIN 2:::::::::)
> 
> WOW!!! YES WE ARE, AND YES THIS IS FOR REAL!!!!!  LAST
> YEAR WAS OFF THE HOOK, BUT THIS YEAR WE ARE GOING TO
> HAVE THE BIGGEST POOPSTAINS THE MIDWEST HAS SEEN
> YET!!!!! 
> 
> In memory of our little poopstains that we lost at ID,
> On February 24th Garage productions is returning to
> Louisville, KY to unite once again with Liqwid Sound
> for Poopstains 2: We have searched high and low for
> this damn dog and we can find the little sucker, Maybe
> through hope and love we can rehash the memories
> brought on by our little poopstains, This is going to
> be a full scale event!!!!!! You know how Garage and
> Liqwid Sound do it!!!  We have confirmed and secured a
> 3000+ venue, for our little poopstain to frolick and
> play . A full rig of Turbosound to put on dat ass as
> well as a dazzling light show.. The eye candy hosted
> by NATE FX will be the largest visual show ever put on
> by these dandy guys!!!!  JUST wait what we have in
> store Garage productions is not going to make the
> treck and not represent!!!!!!!!
> 
> HERE'S THE BEST PART!!!!!!  The talent is
> unmistakeably some of the best representation of all
> styles of House in the Country!!!!
> 
> 
> DJ IRENE -  UC MUSIC - She is the resident of the
> Arena nightclub in La, currently she is Banging hard
> house records across the planet for the release of her
> new mixed compilation on UC Music, "Global house Diva"
>  If you heard about her set in Lexington you know that
> this is a MUST NOT MISS performance!!!!  She would
> even make poopstain turn into a candy raver and do
> liquid.  This west coast legend deserves mad love!!!!!
> 
> KID ICARUS - 32 Degrees, prototype industries -
> Straight outta Dallas, this man is getting global
> acclaim for his crazy hard house sets with the
> freshest cuts and sick mixing.. come see what all the
> hype is about!!! He is also on tour releasing his new
> cd "Hitting hard from inside human experience". That
> means lots of boys and girls are going to be smiling
> as they get heir hands on lots o' free promo cd's..
> 
>  .COM - NSMM - BOOTY BOOTY BOOTY - This man should be
> a boxer as hard as he comes swinging out of Omaha,
> Scratching cutting and mixing up all of those crazy
> booty tracks!!!!  The origionata' of Kiss .com for a
> dollar , be sure not to miss this legendary show,
> coming complete with dancers and all, remember
> vissions... He is only appropriate to please our
> little poopstains on the dancefloor
> 
> DJ BOOTH, Urban Loops Recordings, Garage productions, 
> Speed Garage/House, Kansas City
> www.blownawaypromotions.com   With his vinyl release
> "Its Not Over" and "Tatanka" CD release. Dj Booth is
> bangin'  all  over the country with some of the
> biggest names in the industry. As with all Garage
> productions events, Dj booth will be closing out the
> evening to end a beautiful gathering of the tribes!!!!
> 
> Malcolm - Echobass- tech house - The tech house master
> of Kansas City will be dropping bombs on the 'ville,
> If you like tech house this is a set not to be missed,
>  that's all we got to say.  This man knows how to rock
> the party!!!!!
> 
> VHS or Beta -  A  Louisville favorite will be taking
> time out of their busy schedule to come and perform a
> special set at POOPSTAINS, If you have not seen these
> guys perform, Its incredible!!!!! A live 5 piece band
> doing house music!!!!  Oh lord, come see why they have
> played at a legendary Drop Bass NEW years eve party. 
> With the silly antics of VHS or Beta, Its sure to get
> the party going!!!!!! 
> 
> SOREN, ETHEREAL, AND ASTRID!!!!  - Liqwid Sound - The
> staples of the Louisville scene team up to bring you
> an incredible show of vinyl, Live pa and vocals, Don't
> miss this rare appearance of incredible talent.. When
> these three get together, absolute bliss is found, so
> hopefully when these three get together our little
> poopstains will be found.   
> 
> 
> Once again, This is GOING to be an event not to
> miss!!!  There will be lots o free giveaways from 
> Liqwid sound and garage productions!!!!
> 
> GET THERE EARLY TO AVOID LONG LINES!!! ALSO GET IN
> CHEAPER!!!!!  Doors will Open promptly at 10:00 and it
> will go all night long!!!   Keep all of the drama and
> bad stuffs at home.  Last year this party was thrown
> to take the edge off of the politics and drama of the
> rave scene concerning local and national attention. 
> We were sick of the bad things associated with the
> press of the rave scene, so we threw a kickass party
> not concerned with any of that. This party is to leave
> all of your inhibitions and preconcieved notions at
> home as well the jaddedness. New and old ravers alike,
> We all have one bond, DAMN GOOD MUSIC!!!! WE have
> picked national talent sure to make everyone have a
> good time, now it is up to you to bring the vibe!!!! 
> This party is for you!!!  
> 
> For info or questions.. Emails can be sent to
> djbooth_99@yahoo.com or you can visit
> www.liqwidsound.com
> 
> Supporting websites:
> www.echobass.com
> www.hyperreal.org
> www.syquil.com
> 
> Infoline +1 502 231 8894
> 
> 
> =====
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Subject: RE: [mw] micah the pussy

> did you get love and snuggles?
nope.

still waiting.

no rope burns either, thats the REAL disappointment

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> let me reply with just about any conversation i've ever had 
> w/ a cute little
> raver couple.
no.
i won't let you reply at all.
this reply does not exist.

i am not real.

don't believe.

> my mom collects precious moments figurines, i think you had 
> an interaction
> with a pair of them.
they did look just like those little fuckers.
 
> ps - i apologize for leaping into tj richter's set.  the 
> synethesia was
> getting to me.  and i needed to pee on someone.
no.
again.
thank you for leaping into tj richter's set.
it was...how do you say?...entertainment?


ahhh yes

that is how you say what i say

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uhhh, it wasn't really me.

i wish it was tho.

at least i do today.

-t

-----Original Message-----
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> ps - i apologize for leaping into tj richter's set.  the 
> synethesia was
> getting to me.  and i needed to pee on someone.
no.
again.
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... more food in burrito form.

wait, i know how you genieies (geniis maybe?) are with your wishes... i'd
like more of the food i eat to be in the shape, style, and cooked in the
method of burritos.

oh and world peace (also in burrito form)

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> uhhh, it wasn't really me.
> 
> i wish it was tho.
> 
> at least i do today.
tony lies.

it was him.

he was high on life so he can't remember any of the events that transpired.

you know you're old-school when you purposely don't change the subject line
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I am at work playing the worms 2 demo(can't get ahold of a real version,
can't run worms armageddon cos its NT)

I am playing 2 player, and having fun destroying the team i made:
Pretention with members Hawtin, Mills and Kid 606

ahhh...

welcome to the halls of relief

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whoa, congratulations you guys!  you've got howard now on 97.3 Channel Z!!

today is a wonderful day for cincinnati,
mk
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If I had had your fucking phone number or we knew where you actually
lived, you little bitch, you bet your ass, we would have come and gotten
you.


On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > did you get love and snuggles?
> nope.
>
> still waiting.
>
> no rope burns either, thats the REAL disappointment
>
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-Becky =)

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HAHA!!! i have his phonenumber AND i know where he lives!

I'M SPECIAL!

love,
on to kenosha

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Becky Wangenheim wrote:

> If I had had your fucking phone number or we knew where you actually
> lived, you little bitch, you bet your ass, we would have come and gotten
> you.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:
> 
> > > did you get love and snuggles?
> > nope.
> >
> > still waiting.
> >
> > no rope burns either, thats the REAL disappointment
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coca cola in excess tends to make one selfish, avoid this
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dear pansy ass,

there is a reason you dont know where i live or have my number.
but uhh yeah.
lauryn has been to my house and called me before
and im in the phone book
and you are full of excuses
plus tara was at activ8 and she knows both, so you are just upset that you
didn't 
come steal me from my bed in the middle of the night.

thats cool....it was cold outside and i didnt get any emails concerning
activ8 till today
thanks.

> If I had had your fucking phone number or we knew where you actually
> lived, you little bitch, you bet your ass, we would have come 
> and gotten

love,

   the other white meat

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Subject: RE: [mw] micah the pussy

> HAHA!!! i have his phonenumber AND i know where he lives!
I LIVE WITH HIM!
IM EVEN MORE SPECIALER!

> I'M SPECIAL!
> 
> love,
> on to kenosha

sincerely,
   home on the range

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Subject: [mw] yet again


hello,

Thought I would stop in on this sorry list again and pester everyone with my 
words that arent really about raves.  Feel free to block my emails if that 
bothers you.  I wont be offended.  ;)  I just cant seem to find any people 
as fun to talk to as you all...

Has anyone heard any interesting musics lately?  Tell me about that.

Now I work.

still,
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--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> ... more food in burrito form.

at least it isn't puke in burrito form, hidden between
the folds of a gargantuan mound of black plastic. 

i still hate you forever for that, micah and brian.

no, no nesecito burrito.
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--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> whoa, congratulations you guys!  you've got howard
> now on 97.3 Channel Z!!
> 
> today is a wonderful day for cincinnati,
> mk

yes, yes it is...i turned my radio on on the way to
work, and almost burst into tears...

thank heavens for howard. without my morning dose of
drunken dwarfs and ignorant strippers, i don't know
where i'd be.

no, i'm not kidding,
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> > ... more food in burrito form.
> 
> at least it isn't puke in burrito form, hidden between
> the folds of a gargantuan mound of black plastic. 
> 
> i still hate you forever for that, micah and brian.
> 
> no, no nesecito burrito.
> pixie


woah woah woah there lil camper

first of all i have no idea of what you speak
the only relavent burrito experience was the mexican candy kid experiment of
ours at 2x1200s in louisville

i dont remember any puke, i dont remember it in a tortilla, i dont know what
black plastic you speak of

unless someone ate one of those and threw it up somewheres...hey, don't hold
me accountable
im just the courier

besides charles helped too! but he was always your favorite...

still, do elaborate.

if anyone has questions concerning "that time with the burritos" please see
me after class.


thank you,
   mr cotter

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Light Fantastik is now offering
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You've seen us at high-profile 
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(25% off does NOT apply to these items)

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are also available (25% discount may not apply).

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> woah woah woah there lil camper
> 
> first of all i have no idea of what you speak
> the only relavent burrito experience was the mexican
> candy kid experiment of
> ours at 2x1200s in louisville

yes, you are correct. wanna sticker?
 
> unless someone ate one of those and threw it up
> somewheres...hey, don't hold
> me accountable
> im just the courier

of course i hold you accountable. you're to blame for
everything!!! but most especially for giving burritos
to some rolling raver. i, of course, do not hold
myself accountable for enthusiastically diving into a
pile of black plastic without first checking to see if
there was any burrito puke in it. one shouldn't have
to do these things.

did you know that no matter what you eat, e puke still
comes out orange?? i've now had two lovely experiences
validating this claim, and it's only worsened by the
fact that at neither time did said puke belong to me.

> besides charles helped too! but he was always your
> favorite...

well, duh!
 
> still, do elaborate.

i really don't think anyone wants me to elaborate any
further than i already have. 

> if anyone has questions concerning "that time with
> the burritos" please see
> me after class.
> 
> 
> thank you,
>    mr cotter

mr. kotter get's an "F" for spelling, and a "D-" for
the appropriate rave festivities project.

extra credit: who cares?
pixie


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> well, duh!

dammit, i really need to make more stickers.

/j

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Subject: [mw] CINCINNATI TONIGHT - GRAVITYBASS - A Birthday Party for DJ Facs

Zeropoint Records and Gravitybass Productions Present:

A Gravitybass Birthday For Facs

Appearing Live on January 4, 2001

Facs and Sparks
Biotic, XXX


::::: Facs, one half of the hard hitting duo, Dylan and Facs, graces
Cincinnati with a speial appearance on January 4th.  This happents to be
his Birthday, so Gravitybass is going to throw him a very special
Birthday Bash.  So if you want to see a grown man age before your eyes,
do not miss this evening.  Dont forget to bring him a birthday card!

Tag teaming with Facs will be his first lady, Sparks, Cincy's very own
Kristin Farneth.  You may have seen this girl in action before, but
she's back and ready to blow up the spot.


Also Appearing::::::::


Twilightsleep, Mowgli, and Troll

Yeah.  If you haven't seen or heard whats been going on, these three
Gravitybass residents have been making quite a name for themselves
throghout the American Drum & Bass scene, giving Cinciy D&B something to
be proud of.  Mowgli has a special set up his sleve, fusing jazz
instrumentation with his always fresh turntablism.  Troll's not going to
let you leave without an amazing set, and if you saw him at Bass
Reaction 2 you'll know what we mean.  Twilightsleep, growing by the
minute, and one of America's only Live Drum & Bass Acts, is going to
unleash its five piece frenzy upon your ears and shwo you how deep the
brown note really is.

Look out for MC's Firecat, Batre, and TNT to enlighten you on the mic.


Admission is $7.  You knwo it will be fun!

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Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  i have mad decorations,
>>I have mad cow disease.

you mean you have a great big puss filled abscess in your brain?  don't
sneeze!



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> yes, you are correct. wanna sticker?
no.
but do you have a sucker?

> > unless someone ate one of those and threw it up
> > somewheres...hey, don't hold
> > me accountable
> > im just the courier
> 
> of course i hold you accountable. you're to blame for
> everything!!! but most especially for giving burritos
> to some rolling raver. i, of course, do not hold
> myself accountable for enthusiastically diving into a
> pile of black plastic without first checking to see if
> there was any burrito puke in it. one shouldn't have
> to do these things.
AHHAHAHA

oh wait. im sorry.
i had never heard this story before!
i am soooooo proud, really i am sorry that you dove into puke
but the fact that we made someone vomit a bean burrito up at the party(that
was a short party anyhow)
makes me blush with pride.

that sucks for you though, but its a new highlight to that weekend for me

> did you know that no matter what you eat, e puke still
> comes out orange?? i've now had two lovely experiences
> validating this claim, and it's only worsened by the
> fact that at neither time did said puke belong to me.
what if you freebase pepto bismol while rolling?
orangish pink?

> > besides charles helped too! but he was always your
> > favorite...
> well, duh!
wonder why

> > if anyone has questions concerning "that time with
> > the burritos" please see
> > me after class.
> > 
> > 
> > thank you,
> >    mr cotter
> 
> mr. kotter get's an "F" for spelling, and a "D-" for
> the appropriate rave festivities project.
well mr kotter is copyrighted 
and i dont wanna be mr kotter, hes old and krusty
in a bad way
i think the d- should be upgraded to an a, those sombreros and burritos made
your night and you know it.

im sure SOMEONE appreciated it

> extra credit: who cares?
no one?


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> unleash its five piece frenzy upon your ears and
> shwo you how deep the
> brown note really is.

i'm almost afraid to ask...

what is the brown note, and why is it so deep?

grody.
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In a message dated 1/4/01 8:56:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< I have mad cow disease.
 
 rightooo >>


What, no quotes?

meep

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See?  I really do occasionally DJ somewhere.

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overpass.=20
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Deep has now officially moved to Thursday nights at Mad Bar . . . We will be 
kicking things off tonight, Jan. 4th with Ron Carroll and Mazi . . . Please 
come down and join us for some deep sexy vibes . . . a night strictly for the 
underset . . . 

Mad Bar
1640 N. Damen
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>join us for some deep sexy vibes . . . a night strictly for the underset

deep?  sexy?  vibes?  underset?

is this a teens-only nite?!

mk
________________________________________________________________________
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Michael finds a new reason to get a fake ID now that he is *OVER* 21.


tad


At 03:18 PM 1/4/01 -0600, michael knight wrote:
>
>>join us for some deep sexy vibes . . . a night strictly for the underset
>
>deep?  sexy?  vibes?  underset?
>
>is this a teens-only nite?!
>
>mk
>________________________________________________________________________
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>ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
>
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> I learned to spin at about age 3 or 4, so I came into
> this bitch with "superior rave status" ("everyone in
> quotes").  Of course I use to do it way too much and
> puke on myself so I stopped at around age 10, and now
> I just drink in order to puke on myself!
>
You god damn right Gotti, I witnessed you puking on yourself in full force
this weekend, and it was glorious.  Missed me leg by about 3 inches.  I must
say that as much shit as I've heard that you talk about St. Looey REPRAZENT
you sure couldn't hang with the Milwaukee rednecks...passed out by 1
am...hah!  It wouldn't have been so bad if we didn't have to carry your ass
down 4 flights of steps outta the joint.  Truly a vintage moment in the
history of alcohol.  I commend you and give you an open invitation to repeat
the experience in our wonderful city whenever you like.

-paul

p.s. Did you know that we have pictures of the whole thing from the second
puke on?   ($$$)


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Subject: [mw] motor question



I am toying with the idea of driving up to Detroit next weekend (the 12th) 
to catch Surgeon at Motor.  Anyone know what the cost usually runs or if 
there is any chance of it selling out?  Is it worth the 4 hour drive; I 
mean, are Motor events enjoyable most of the time?

Its been a few years since I have seen him and I would really like to go 
but...I need to be sure it will be worth it.

advthanksance,
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    Is this party still on? Anybody headed for st louis? Am I the only one
out of the loop?

Matt Murphy
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fwded message from laura....

--doug

: douglas wayne a.k.a. varsha            :
: douglaswayne@gikorecordings.com        :
: varsha@mac.com                         :
: Scarab : Giko Rec. : SUBterror : PTLF  :
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From: Applesawz909@aol.com
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Subject: Untranslatable is hiring again

i need people in the areas of st.louis, chicago, pittsburgh/cleveland, and
pretty much anywhere else but indy and southern ohio.
email your name and phone number to doug (varhsa@mac.com) and hell bring it
home to me. the fire not only ate my kitten it also ate my harddrive. merry
christmas eh?
thanks yall.

laura


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h h h h h h h h howard stern?
in cincinnati.... no way

stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< thank heavens for howard. without my morning dose of
 drunken dwarfs and ignorant strippers, i don't know
 where i'd be.
 
 no, i'm not kidding,
 pixie >>

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hahahahaa

i did not know we got pics....that rules.  i was, of course, too busy
RUNNING 12 BLOCKS TO GET A CAR TO TAKE YOUR DRUNK ASS HOME IN!!!!

on a plus note, i got to take gotti's pants off.  i mean, it's not every day
you get to strip jon mutha fuckin gotti.

also, i got to witness his alarm when he had to ask me why he woke up with
no pants on.

word to the gotti in the daisy dukes

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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> > I learned to spin at about age 3 or 4, so I came into
> > this bitch with "superior rave status" ("everyone in
> > quotes").  Of course I use to do it way too much and
> > puke on myself so I stopped at around age 10, and now
> > I just drink in order to puke on myself!
> >
> You god damn right Gotti, I witnessed you puking on yourself in full force
> this weekend, and it was glorious.  Missed me leg by about 3 inches.  I
must
> say that as much shit as I've heard that you talk about St. Looey
REPRAZENT
> you sure couldn't hang with the Milwaukee rednecks...passed out by 1
> am...hah!  It wouldn't have been so bad if we didn't have to carry your
ass
> down 4 flights of steps outta the joint.  Truly a vintage moment in the
> history of alcohol.  I commend you and give you an open invitation to
repeat
> the experience in our wonderful city whenever you like.
>
> -paul
>
> p.s. Did you know that we have pictures of the whole thing from the second
> puke on?   ($$$)
>
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Hello and Happy New Year from Muzique Boutique!

We would like to invite you to take a few moments of your time to check out 
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events.

We are very excited about new improvements in our company as well as our 
upcoming event LOVEBUG.  This event will be held on February 10th, 2001 in 
Indianapolis. More information as well as a JPG of the flyer are available 
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We hope to hear from you all soon, and wish you a very fortunate New Year.

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From mw-raves-return-13185-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 05 05:11:06 2001
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wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there.

who the hell would pay for these?

mk

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unless the investment genie shows up, i believe this bitch is off

i could be wrong though

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>
>     Is this party still on? Anybody headed for st louis? Am I the only one
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Subject: [mw] Complete Set of Persoanalized Invasion Crew Laminates on E-Bay

we have a complete Personalized set of Invasion Crew Laminates on
E-bay...check them out!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1402490634

YOU WANT THEM!!!   YOU WANT THEM!!!   YOU WANT THEM!!!

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On 01/04/2001 11.09 PM michael knight put out the following propaganda:

> wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there.
> 
> who the hell would pay for these?


actually people at our paties are always asking us for them but we make just
enough for the crew and severasl times people have offered over $20 for a
single laminate so we thought it would be cool to offer a whole set
personalized with the winners name...the starting bid of $35 isnt to short
of what they actually cost to print, laminates, and cut 9 full-color
laminates...if you not interested OH FUCKING WELL!!!  IGNORE IT!!!!


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Everybody is an enemy...fuck it I hate everybody.
I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
My mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
and my audience is the target!!!

It takes 62 muscles to frown at a person...
but it takes only six to turn around and bitch slap the fucker!!!

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists and
scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which your
children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I AM CHAOS !  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani
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http://bounce.to/blitzgrafx
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Subject: Re: [mw] Complete Set of Persoanalized Invasion Crew Laminates on
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, bLiTz666 wrote:

-->On 01/04/2001 11.09 PM michael knight put out the following propaganda:
-->
-->> wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there.
-->> 
-->> who the hell would pay for these?
-->
-->
-->actually people at our paties are always asking us for them but we make just
-->enough for the crew and severasl times people have offered over $20 for a
-->single laminate so we thought it would be cool to offer a whole set
-->personalized with the winners name...the starting bid of $35 isnt to short
-->of what they actually cost to print, laminates, and cut 9 full-color
-->laminates...if you not interested OH FUCKING WELL!!!  IGNORE IT!!!!

where are you printing your laminates?  the one time i made some, i
walked into kinko's and printed up 27 or 36...  can't remember which
(some multiple of 9) for about 20 bucks.

laser printer, nice thick stock, laminated...  

tho, i did have to cut them myself *and* dig up a ball of twine.


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>>>"Aaron Johnson a.k.a. DJ A.A.J.A.X" <<<

FUCKED UP----my name is aaron johnson, and i was considering the dj name of 
ajax for a while.  funked up shit yo, funked up shit.  aaron.

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hehehe...
i got some good ones

sounds like one hour devolpment at walgreens tomorrow...in timw for the 
party to show them off

Whendee Messick

aka "Wendy Mesich" nakedgirl666@hotmail.com

Hey dig out all the nudie pics of me you guys have... i need to start a 
portfolio!


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To: "blacklotus" <blacklotus@milwpc.com>, "Punk Asses" 
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hahahahaa

i did not know we got pics....that rules.  i was, of course, too busy
RUNNING 12 BLOCKS TO GET A CAR TO TAKE YOUR DRUNK ASS HOME IN!!!!

on a plus note, i got to take gotti's pants off.  i mean, it's not every day
you get to strip jon mutha fuckin gotti.

also, i got to witness his alarm when he had to ask me why he woke up with
no pants on.

word to the gotti in the daisy dukes

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com
.
 >
 > -paul
 >
 > p.s. Did you know that we have pictures of the whole thing from the 
second
 > puke on?   ($$$)





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you know you're oldschool when someone from a different state uses the same 
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adam with the last name and i got in a bar fight tonight....some random guy
actually came over and broke it up :-)

always a pleasure to see you adam :-)

-THE bitch iySyS-

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Is the server down for happy cause I haven't gotten an
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we had to take that mother-fucking server down...

we had to take that mother-fucking server out...

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> Is the server down for happy cause I haven't gotten an
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> so did the burrito survive the detroit trip? 
if by "the burrito" you mean that crusty hard, hermetically sealed(ziplock
bag), gnarled, monkey's paw lookin
thing wrapped up in a taco bell wrapper with a sticker heart to keep it
closed...

then yes
its safely...SOMEWHERE at my home in dayton.
scary to think that thing might be out on its own causing havoc...





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> Is the server down for happy cause I haven't gotten an
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OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com wrote:
>you know you're oldschool when someone from a different state uses the >=
same
dj name.  =


it's such an annoying problem!  i've already had to kill "dj catnap" in n=
ew
hampshire, missouri, florida, TWO of them in boston, and a "khatnap" in
dusseldorf, germany.  i'm more of a hit man than a dj now....  i screwed =
up
once and shot keoki by accident at a party in LA.  he collapsed on the de=
cks
but everyone figured he just OD'd again.  =


peace,

catnap
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>From: simon kellman <mechaproductions@usa.net>
>To: OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com, <nakedgirl666@hotmail.com>,  
><wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com>, <blacklotus@milwpc.com>, 
><mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] you know you're old-school when....]
>Date: 5 Jan 2001 09:38:43 MST
>
>OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com wrote:
> >you know you're oldschool when someone from a different state uses the 
> >same
>dj name.
>
>it's such an annoying problem!  i've already had to kill "dj catnap" in new
>hampshire, missouri, florida, TWO of them in boston, and a "khatnap" in
>dusseldorf, germany.  i'm more of a hit man than a dj now....  i screwed up
>once and shot keoki by accident at a party in LA.  he collapsed on the 
>decks
>but everyone figured he just OD'd again.
>
>peace,
>
>catnap


Wouldnt an easier solution be to simply be more original with your dj 
name???

;)

o,
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i've set up a folder for mw-raves in pine, and went into my .procmailrc
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should i have "To" instead of "From"? Does anyone know what needs to get
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:0:
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works for me.

you do want to filter by the to: header, and not the from: header, since
the from header will always contain the address of the original sender.

chris


On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Becky Wangenheim wrote:

> i've set up a folder for mw-raves in pine, and went into my .procmailrc
> and tried to setup a filter so that all email coming from the list gets
> sent to that folder automatically, but it's not working.
> 
> here's what it looks like in my .procmailrc:
> 
> :0:
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> mail/mw-raves
> 
> 
> 
> should i have "To" instead of "From"? Does anyone know what needs to get
> changed? Please help me!
> 
> -- 
> -Becky =)
> 
> wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
> 
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actually, i've never met another "catnap", altho when i had a residency a=
t the
Palace in new jersey, the dickhead promoter changed my name to "catNIP" o=
n all
the flyers because he thought catnap wasn't hip enough.  i think he was
smoking catnip himself....

a year later, when i did a hiphop concert, the promoter for that decided =
to
re-name me "nappycat" and had the MC introduce me as "nappy scrappy
scratch-happy battle cat".  i threw a 12" at him but he ducked.  =


peace,

catnap =



>OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com wrote:
> >you know you're oldschool when someone from a different state uses the=
 =

> >same
>dj name.
>
>it's such an annoying problem!  i've already had to kill "dj catnap" in =
new
>hampshire, missouri, florida, TWO of them in boston, and a "khatnap" in
>dusseldorf, germany.  i'm more of a hit man than a dj now....  i screwed=
 up
>once and shot keoki by accident at a party in LA.  he collapsed on the =

>decks
>but everyone figured he just OD'd again.
>
>peace,
>
>catnap


Wouldnt an easier solution be to simply be more original with your dj =

name???

;)

o,
Adam (aka: DJ 657488ffhhmd)

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this is happening this weekend.  free admission if you're a dumbass; you
will need to prove it.

heh, the saddest thing is, someone will believe me.

peeing on your mom will make the scene stronger,
-t

ps - i was looking through my "sent items" from like a year ago, i think my
email style has gotten really strange, please discuss amongst yourselves.

-----------------------

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:03:03 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>please discuss amongst yourselves.


I think you mean "please disgust amongst yourselves".
                                        ^^^^^^

;)

	- Joe


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From mw-raves-return-13205-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 05 19:35:58 2001
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nah, its more fun when i get to share

'cuz sharing is caring,
-t

ps - i'll give you a shiny new nickel if you take those 50 blank lines off
your signature - or explain why they're there.  it keeps me up at night!

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [mw] Madison area: DOWNLOAD 2


On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:03:03 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>please discuss amongst yourselves.


I think you mean "please disgust amongst yourselves".
                                        ^^^^^^

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Hi im new to tha list people know me as Bree or Sun Shine Doll...
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> Does anyone know what partys  are goin on in chicago this weekend/?

whoa, your email has TARD in it.








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lol yup Bretard is one of my nick names too lol....

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> ps - i'll give you a shiny new nickel if you take those 50 
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who cares about that when you can live here!

www.freedomship.com

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*look of confusion* *giggle* *blink* *blink*

muahahahaa,
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lol yup Bretard is one of my nick names too lol.... 

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:35:50 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>ps - i'll give you a shiny new nickel if you take those 50 blank lines off
>your signature - or explain why they're there.  it keeps me up at night!


It's to hide the ads and other garbage that mailing lists
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if you filter on the To: header and someone replies to your post, both 
copies will go to the mw-raves folder.  filter on the Mailing-List: header.

mk

At 12:53 PM 1/5/2001 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:


>:0:
>*^TO_mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>mail/mw-raves
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>works for me.
>
>you do want to filter by the to: header, and not the from: header, since
>the from header will always contain the address of the original sender.
>
>chris
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>
>On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Becky Wangenheim wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
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> >www.freedomship.com
> 
> Let's all be pirates and take it over !
i am a pirate
arr

but lets wait till its built

> >and fly this!
> >
> >www.moller.com
> 
> Now that's cool, but it needs
> some guns and rockets (then
> we attack the Fredomship !)
yeah this thing is neato.

its "never been flown" though
i guess just airtunnel tests

assholes
i want video

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finally!  

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:35:50 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>ps - i'll give you a shiny new nickel if you take those 50 blank lines off
>your signature - or explain why they're there.  it keeps me up at night!


It's to hide the ads and other garbage that mailing lists
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:30:35 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>finally!  

Where's my shiny new nickel bitch !
(and it better say 2001 on it -you said "new")

hehehe ;)

	- Joe


>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: RE: [mw] Madison area: DOWNLOAD 2
>
>
>On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:35:50 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
>
>>ps - i'll give you a shiny new nickel if you take those 50 blank lines off
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>
>
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>
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ooh, how about one from 2000?  its so shiny when i look at it i think i feel
my roll coming back.

minted in detroit,
-t

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:30:35 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>finally!  

Where's my shiny new nickel bitch !
(and it better say 2001 on it -you said "new")

hehehe ;)

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i almost forgot, if you want to use an outgoing SMTP server that won't add
extra lines to yr messages, try "SMTP.IDEABLENDER.COM".

-t


>-----Original Message-----
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>It's to hide the ads and other garbage that mailing lists
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Regretably, 100% of that CPU's resources are currently running the pimp bot 
2000.


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>>wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there. who the hell =
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me me me, oh wait i dont have pay for them I get one free!! And dont for =
get that people will not only sell anything they will also post =
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well, or me, anyway...
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you have to make hard decisions like i do at work:

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> don't leave us in suspense.
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i could say i was oh so rebellious and pissed in the sink or on the floor or
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i just pissed at the pube urinal

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>>wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there. who the hell
would pay for these?

>me me me, oh wait i dont have pay for them I get one free!! And dont for
get >that people will not only sell anything they will also post anything!!

    Congratulations, you've now confirmed that the invasion crew is in fact
lame. Selling your lammies? Bragging about getting one of your own lammies
for free? Give me a break! Lammies are a tool to tell security who's ass to
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In a message dated 1/5/01 8:02:35 PM !!!First Boot!!!, atomly@atomly.com 
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bLiTz666 wrote:

> On 01/04/2001 11.09 PM michael knight put out the following propaganda:
>
> > wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there.
> >
> > who the hell would pay for these?
>
> actually people at our paties are always asking us for them but we make just
> enough for the crew and severasl times people have offered over $20 for a
> single laminate

yeah, but people usually aren't rolling when they browse Ebay.


Tom


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> > Why the hell is hosted in the UK, though?  This list should be run off a
> >  broken 909 somewhere near 65th and MLK.
> >  
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> Egroups, like Yahoo, upon registration asks for your location. If you tell
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote:

-->
-->
-->bLiTz666 wrote:
-->
-->> On 01/04/2001 11.09 PM michael knight put out the following propaganda:
-->>
-->> > wow, people really will try to sell _anything_ on there.
-->> >
-->> > who the hell would pay for these?
-->>
-->> actually people at our paties are always asking us for them but we make just
-->> enough for the crew and severasl times people have offered over $20 for a
-->> single laminate
-->
-->yeah, but people usually aren't rolling when they browse Ebay.

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    > 

GREEN 
TARA - DAYTON, OHIO
Tara is a resident DJ at ACTIV8 so she knows what it 
takes to make the
crowd dance.
  This is gonna be a surprise set - maybe 
house, maybe techno,
maybe some trance.  We don't even know!   >>

                       dood the reason they don't know is cos' they
didn't ask me.

                                                                 pffft

         




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Subject: Re: [mw] Invasion Lamis

Ummmm actually mam,
BLITZ666 does some of our flyers and our lammies.. he isnot a CORE invasion 
crew member..  there are only 5 of those and we are all dj's.  BLITZ666 does 
our flyers and lammies because he love;s what he does and he doesnt charge 
us.  That is his thing..  he asked us if it would be cool if he did that.. 
and we are cool with it because of everything he has done for us..

If invasion was shady bitches we would charge 20 bux for a party with a huge 
flyer and only have 3000 watt''s of sound and crappy venue's and shitty dj's..

Peaz


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Subject: [mw] O M E N -- n.l.g --  02/03/01 -- Indianapolis

Physix Records presents



O M E N
N.L.G
Saturday February 3rd, 2001
Indianapolis, Indiana



CHANNEL ONE
Kompute Records -- Chicago
2 x 4

Having gained recognition alongside such Chicago talent as Submerge 101 and 
Frankie Vega  as being mainstays in the tekno assault on Chicago, Channel One 
then focused
on more creative goals and established the successful KOMPUTE RECORDS label, 
which has seen their own slammin' trybal-infected releases as well as 
releases from 
Angel Alanis and future collaborations with ESP Woody McBride and others!   
Come eXperience 
this tekno 2 x 4 at this, their first ever Indianapolis appearance!

TRANSLUCENT
Transparent Productions/Guidance Recordings -- Chicago
tech 12s + trumpet
 
Another success story from Indiana, Jason Translucent went from throwing 
successful parties in Ft Wayne and later Indianapolis, to throwing some of 
the more awe-inspirising house-oriented parties in Chicago and playing all 
over the US and Europe with his jazz-influenced house sets on top of his live 
trumpetting.  Translucent has guest performed with the likes of other house 
soldiers Paul Johnson, Boo Williams, Glenn Underground, and others and 
has played trumpet over Paul Johnson's immensely successful house anthem 
"Get Get Down"!   Jason returns to close the night as it should be closed -- 
with 
2 hours of uplifting spiritual house guidance!

SLAPINFUNK
Invasion Crew -Boston MA / DSM
tech 12s + bass guitar

The talent of this performer is undeniable!  Having started out as a jazz 
musician, Slapinfunk has been playing bass for 14 years, having played 
with the National Grammy Jazz Band in 1997 and a top 5 finalist in the 
NFFA Arts Recognition and Talent Search in 1998 and US Jazz 
Instrumentalist of the Year by Down Beat Magazine in 1998.  He has 
turned his artistic attention to DnB -- dark and menacing, yet no less than 
funky and jazzy!  He has released his first 12-inch on his own label, gaining 
international distribution through Alpha Magic and Essential Distribution!  
No flash -- no flare -- no tricks -- just solid mixing, bad-assed dubplates,
fresh sounds and killer programming!  Oh, and did we mention he was a 
studio musician for Vanilla Ice, recently?  No shit!   Another Indy first!

CHOCOLATE 
The Freaky AfroNaut
House of Babylon Collective /  Physix Records -- Earth

CD release party for Physix Records CD001 "Peak Time Freaks!" 
(fusion/techno) and Physix Records CD002 "Finally Found" 
(funky house/tek-house), Chocolate will be providing a house 
backdrop that will keep you peak time freaks moving and grooving.  
Check out Physix Records VR001 featuring THA FReQ FOUNDATION
with remixes by Headroom soon!  

DAN*DEMENTIA
Physix Records/Log2 SoundSystem DJs

&

L M NTS
Double E Recordings -- Indy / SanFran / LA
 
Another staple in the Indy scene, Dan has provided sound and lights
for many a'happy raver!  His skills on the decks are no less impressive.  
Mixing hard UK NRG, hard trance, and acid together in a flawless mix 
of blistering proportions,  this will be one of your last opportunities to 
witness one of Indy's best-kept secrets before his move to Los Angeles!   
Dan will be tagging with another NRG upstart LMNTS, from the Double 
E group, who will be, in the future, providing much music and dance 
events in the future of  Indy!  Come check out the peak time acid 
breakdown from two upcoming masters in the genre!
 
 
KOROVA
House of Babylon Collective  / Physix Records

The talented baby of the House of Babylon Collective, playing a flurry
of techno-laced house that will start the party off correct!


Sound by Log2
Log2 will also be whipping out their brand new multi-coloured laser that
they featured at their WORK IT, 2 party in South Bend, IN last December  22nd.

$15 at the door all night

O M E N
N.L.G
Saturday February 3rd, 2001
Indianapolis, Indiana

Physix Records
317 767 4994
PhysixRecords@aol.com


Channel One, SlapinFunk, Chocolate (The Freaky AfroNaut), 
DanDementia, and Korova can be booked via PhysixBAM@aol.com
or by calling 317 496 7275.   

10 - 11     Korova
11 - 12     LMNts
12 - 1      DanDementia
1  -  2     SlapinFunk
2  -  3     Channel One
3  -  4     Chocolate
4  -  6     Translucent

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Hey what's up everyone!?  Just checking with all the cincinnati kidz to see 
if anyone knows what's up in town this weekend? Especially something chill.. 
<3 <3
Thanks..Much LoVe.. 
~mph

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:56:55 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:

>who cares about that when you can live here!
>
>www.freedomship.com

Let's all be pirates and take it over !


>and fly this!
>
>www.moller.com

Now that's cool, but it needs
some guns and rockets (then
we attack the Fredomship !)

	- Joe


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Subject: Re: [mw] CiNciNNaTi

theres rampant crack-smoking, but I dont' know if YOU consider that chill, I
sure do tho

lightin the hubba
shawne
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>
>
> Hey what's up everyone!?  Just checking with all the cincinnati kidz to
see
> if anyone knows what's up in town this weekend? Especially something
chill..
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SATURDAY: JANUARY 
6TH
CINCINNATI:OHIO
PRESENTED BY: GROOVEREACTOR (formerly Crybaby - the 
group who 
brought you Future Unification, New Beginnings, Curve and Back 2 
Basics)
  



SONIQ STYLZ - DAYTON, 
OHIO
Co-founder of Denny's Creature Productions, Tim runs a weekly club 
event
in Dayton (ACTIV8) and knows how to get people to the dance floor 
with his
electro breaks, progressive and hard house sets.  

GREEN 
TARA - DAYTON, OHIO
Tara is a resident DJ at ACTIV8 so she knows what it 
takes to make the
crowd dance.  This is gonna be a surprise set - maybe 
house, maybe techno,
maybe some trance.  We don't even know!

DJ 
D8A - DAYTON, OHIO
One of the resident DJs at GROOVE SPOT and member of 
GrooveReactor.  Get 
ready to house your body.  This guy 
really sucks.



KENNETH FORTE - DAYTON, OHIO
Breaks, breaks and more breaks.  Add 
some wicked scratching and you've
got Kenneth Forte.

THE GROOVE SPOT 
is a NEW club on the corner of Vine Street and W.
McMillan 
in 
Clifton.  This is an 18+ club with beer and liquor specials on a
regular 
basis for
those fortunate enough to be 21+.  The party starts every week 
at 11:00
and goes 
until 4:00AM

Admission:  
$5 for 21 and up -- $7 for 18 to 20



Don't forget -- the Grand Opening Party for the Groove Spot is 
next weekend, January 13th from 10:00 PM to 4:00 AM with Matt Freeman, DJ

Sugar, 
Manifest, J.J. Boogie, DJ Stimulii, and DJ D8A!!  We expect to reach 
capacity by 12:30 - 1:00 so please arrive early.  Still only 
$5.00/$7.00!!


 


The flyers are out - go get one!!  If you can't find a flyer, contact 
GROOVEREACTOR 
for more information at:

513.588.8111
Taters8365@aol.com

DJD8A@juno.com


Thanks for the 
support.  See you at the 
party!!!!


**********************************DIRECTIONS*****************************
***** 

********

>From 
DAYTON:

Take I-75 south to SR-562 (Norwood) east.  Take SR-562 east 
to I-71
south.  Take I-71 south to the Taft Road exit (exit #3).  
Taft is one way, which you
will take roughly 3 miles to Vine Street.  
Turn left on Vine Street.  Go 1 block to the
corner of W. McMillanand 
Vine.  THE GROOVE SPOT will be on the left corner of W.McMillan and
Vine 
it is located on the side of the Mad Frog building.



>From COLUMBUS:

Take I-71 south and follow above 
directions.

>From points SOUTH of CINCINNATI:

Take I-75 north and 
merge with I-71 north.  Take I-71 north through
downtown.  Take the 
Reading Road exit, veer left and go straight under the overpass. 
Veer left 
again and go straight to Taft Road.  Turn left on Taft Road and follow 
above
directions.


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3D, Canvas REcords, Forte and Future Forces/www.Futureforces.com

SUBMERGE101, Refuse and Resist Tour/www.France-techno.com/submerge101

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Lush

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paolo pincente presents
gleeclub chicago

BUCK N SUNDAYS

SUNDAY JANUARY 7, 2001

along with hosts box boy rich,  tj tim,  jefferee j, and big dan militor

$1.00 DRINKS ALL NIGHT


DOORS OPEN AT 10PM

along with residents
teri bristol and earl pleasure

up in the mezz freddie bain and mike serafini

illuminations by neil kull
decor by box boy rich and jefferee

ANY GUEST WEARING COWBOY OR COUNTRY CLOTHING
WILL GET IN FOR FREE

gleeclub chicago @ crobar the nightclub
1543 north kingsbury
for information call 312.243.4800
special events line 312.413.7007

to be placed on the early COMP guest list please hit reply and enter 
your first and last name and number of guests, or go to our <>website 
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THIS IS AN ALL NIGHT COMP LIST

COMING SUNDAY JANUARY 14, 2001
CIRCUIT MOM PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS
DREAM - T
WITH DJ PETE CROW

COMING SUNDAY JANUARY 21, 2001
THE EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY OF GLEE
WITH AN EIGHT YEAR CLASSIC RETROSPECTIVE
BY DJ TERI BRISTOL AND EARL PLEASURE
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<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+3"><u><b>BUCK N
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color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">along with hosts box boy rich,&nbsp; tj tim,&nbsp;
jefferee j, and big dan militor</font></div>
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color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><b>$1.00 DRINKS ALL NIGHT</b></font></div>
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<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+3"
color="#0000FF">DOORS OPEN AT 10PM</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">along with residents</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">teri bristol and earl pleasure</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">up in the mezz freddie bain and mike
serafini</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">illuminations by neil kull</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">decor by box boy rich and jefferee</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica"
color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"><b>ANY GUEST
WEARING COWBOY OR COUNTRY CLOTHING</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"><b>WILL GET IN
FOR FREE</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">gleeclub chicago @ crobar the nightclub</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">1543 north kingsbury</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">for information call 312.243.4800</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">special events line 312.413.7007</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><br></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">to be placed on the early COMP guest list please hit
reply and enter your first and last name and number of guests, or go
to our</font> <a href=""><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF">website</font></a><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"> at</font> <a href=""><font face="Helvetica"
size="+2" color="#0000FF">www.crobarnightclub.com</font></a><font
face="Helvetica" size="+2" color="#0000FF">. PLEASE REPLY BY 4PM ON
SUNDAY</font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#0000FF"><b>THIS IS AN ALL NIGHT COMP LIST</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica"
size="+2"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#FF0000"><b>COMING SUNDAY JANUARY 14, 2001</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#FF0000"><b>CIRCUIT MOM PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#FF0000"><b>DREAM - T</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#FF0000"><b>WITH DJ PETE CROW</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica"
size="+2"><b><br></b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#007700"><b>COMING SUNDAY JANUARY 21, 2001</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#007700"><b>THE EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY OF GLEE</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#007700"><b>WITH AN EIGHT YEAR CLASSIC
RETROSPECTIVE</b></font></div>
<div align="center"><font face="Helvetica" size="+2"
color="#007700"><b>BY DJ TERI BRISTOL AND EARL
PLEASURE</b></font></div>
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In a message dated 1/5/01 9:07:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< $1.00 DRINKS ALL NIGHT >>
        

That is *top shelf* liquor .... correct?


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> Congratulations, you've now confirmed that the invasion crew is in fact
> lame. Selling your lammies? Bragging about getting one of your own lammies
> for free? Give me a break! Lammies are a tool to tell security who's ass to
> kick off stage, not some kind of damn status symbol.

look the reason we are doing it is because it has been requested by a lot of
people at our parties, people have said that they would pay to have a set
printed for them and we thought rather than sell numerous sets, we would
auction off just one, that way they feel like they have gotten something
that is unique to them (as it will be personalized with their name), instead
of just another laminate that everyone else has...as far as being a tool, i
have put a lot of work into making Invasion laminates, it is not only a tool
to identify who has "ALL ACCESS", but also an art form, if they were truly
just a "tool", we would just use the same laminate with the same text
saying, "INVASION CREW", over and over again, rather than spending my time
making an original image for each party, and spending money printing and
personalizing the laminates for each and every party...you know i guess this
really bothers you doesn't it, i guess if you decide the Invasion is lame
because of something we are trying to do because it has been requested by
people attending our parties, i would hate to see how u would judge us if we
just ignored everyone that attended our parties and didn't care what they
said or requested...by the way, have you even seen the laminates or are you
just going off without actually investigating???  check them out, then if
you feel the same way, that they are just "another laminate" or "just a
tool", SO BE IT, we know your opinion, but if not let me/us/Invasion know!!!

check them out here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1402490634&r=0&t=0&sh
owTutorial=0&ed=979534538&indexURL=0&rd=1

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Commercialization/Sell-outs are good & necessary because,
the scene, the music, & the vibe, must remain in the
morphing shadows of the underground, where constant
imagination osmosis keeps things evolving, keeps things
original, & keeps things creative, cutting edge.
The labels/names change, the sound changes, the entities
change, but the underground evolutionary/revolutionary stays
constant...todays underground cutting edge=tomorrow's mainstream!!!

Shannon 'bLiTz666' Magnani
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Invasion Productions: 515.830.1893/Invasioncrew@aol.com
Invasion club nite: Arrival @ Club Ibiza, downtown Des Moines
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Wendy's trademarked 'hot n juicy.'

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In a message dated 1/6/01 5:39:24 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< Wendy's trademarked 'hot n juicy.' >>


thats weird.. so am I.

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On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

+In a message dated 1/6/01 5:39:24 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
+atomly@sprintpcs.com writes:
+
+<< Wendy's trademarked 'hot n juicy.' >>
+
+
+thats weird.. so am I.

bigup the netraver orgy vibe!

scratch-a-lot vs. supadupe was consumerific.

jesus is the answer.

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<< jesus is the answer.
  >>




is that pernounced gee sus?

or ha-zeus?

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On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

+is that pernounced gee sus?
+
+or ha-zeus?

i've heard it both ways.


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Subject: Re: [mw] Invasion Lamis

as far as being a tool, i
> have put a lot of work into making Invasion laminates, it is not only a
tool
> to identify who has "ALL ACCESS", but also an art form, if they were truly
> just a "tool", we would just use the same laminate with the same text
> saying, "INVASION CREW", over and over again, rather than spending my time
> making an original image for each party, and spending money printing and
> personalizing the laminates for each and every party...

    I see you missed my point entirely. However much time and art you put
into your lammies, they're still not "look at me I'm cool I have a lammie"
ultimate scenester rave accessory, to be given away to anybody with some
cash, they're fucking back stage passes, indicating people actually doing
work at the party. I see so many idiots running around at parties trying to
jock the promoter or some DJ to give them a lammie just so they can walk
around the party looking cool. That is why you get offers of $20 for your
lammies at the party, and that is why you still have no bids on your ebay
auction. (no one cares about a stupid lammie hanging in your closet) Please
don't tell me people were trying to get your lammies because they loved the
art so much.

you know i guess this
> really bothers you doesn't it, i guess if you decide the Invasion is lame
> because of something we are trying to do because it has been requested by
> people attending our parties, i would hate to see how u would judge us if
we
> just ignored everyone that attended our parties and didn't care what they
> said or requested...

    If I did everything the kids at my parties requested, well I'd be in a
lot of trouble and very deep in debt.

by the way, have you even seen the laminates or are you
> just going off without actually investigating???  check them out, then if
> you feel the same way, that they are just "another laminate" or "just a
> tool", SO BE IT, we know your opinion, but if not let me/us/Invasion
know!!!

    Look, I saw the lammies, they're cool as far as lammies go, but that's
not the point! If you guys really think you're responding to some big demand
for your lammies, well then good luck with your auction I guess. The reason
having a lammie is special and important is not because it looks cool
(although yes, alot of them do, pokemania had some especially cool ones here
in Mpls last month) but because it means you were working at the party, you
participated and put your effort into it and for that they needed to make
sure security wouldn't fuck with you. Owning that lammie during the party
means you get in-and-out, you can go backstage, maybe even on the stage,
maybe you get free water, maybe a DJ Hoe or two, things like that.
Privelages that people would pay for. Owning the lammie after the party is
more symbolic than anything, it means you were there, you helped out with
the party, you helped make that event happen. Selling your lammies after the
fact just cheapens that, when you open your closet to show off your lammies
to your friends (which they could care less about anyway) they'll think
"what a dork, he's bragging about his lammies, I bet he didn't even earn
them, he just bought them off the promoter!" You see what I mean? I can't
believe I'm getting all riled up about some stupid laminates, but this is
mw-raves, somebody had to do it. =]

wondering why he bothers,

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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On 01/06/2001 10.38 AM Matt Murphy put out the following propaganda:

> Look, I saw the lammies, they're cool as far as lammies go, but that's
> not the point! If you guys really think you're responding to some big demand
> for your lammies, well then good luck with your auction I guess. The reason
> having a lammie is special and important is not because it looks cool
> (although yes, alot of them do, pokemania had some especially cool ones here
> in Mpls last month) but because it means you were working at the party, you
> participated and put your effort into it and for that they needed to make
> sure security wouldn't fuck with you. Owning that lammie during the party
> means you get in-and-out, you can go backstage, maybe even on the stage,
> maybe you get free water, maybe a DJ Hoe or two, things like that.
> Privelages that people would pay for. Owning the lammie after the party is
> more symbolic than anything, it means you were there, you helped out with
> the party, you helped make that event happen. Selling your lammies after the
> fact just cheapens that, when you open your closet to show off your lammies
> to your friends (which they could care less about anyway) they'll think
> "what a dork, he's bragging about his lammies, I bet he didn't even earn
> them, he just bought them off the promoter!" You see what I mean? I can't
> believe I'm getting all riled up about some stupid laminates, but this is
> mw-raves, somebody had to do it. =]

or i guess you just don't get it either...it was a BIG JOKE, the auction,
but i thought i would see how far i could take ya...  : P


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Subject: [mw] becka and 666ty's shindiggy


i have just one question:

is a 4-way titty high-5.....a high-8?

/j

ps i lied, one more question. anyone seen my scarf? it's black and soft
and i think i left it in milwaukee.










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> or i guess you just don't get it either...it was a BIG JOKE, the auction,
> but i thought i would see how far i could take ya...  : P

    Oh christ. Just call me duped. =]

Matt Murphy
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i'm new to the list so i just wanted to say hi.  i live in the Chicago
area and thats mainly where i party.  so yea peace out
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Subject: [mw] Charles Noel interview on JIVE

Check it out. :)

http://www.jivemagazine.com/interviews/12212000charlesnoel/index.shtml

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Thanks for coming to all who did.  I had a lot of fun and hope you all did 
too.  :)




-Jen

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You can't gargle sand!



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lamis were on ebay for like $1000, and since I know Blitz I wouldnt have =
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> I see that you must think that everything on this list and the internet is serious....What I wanted to do was bid really really high so that our lamis were on ebay for like $1000, and since I know Blitz I wouldnt have to pay. Why, because its funny!!

It'd be even funnier when blitz had to pay the 10% seller's fee on you
$1000 bid.


> Thanks for calling us lame,

lame,

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whatever, can we forget about this shit now?  aaron.

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>>What I wanted to do was bid really...........

key word being wanted, after I found out about that fee it wasnt going to be
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> > I see that you must think that everything on this list and the internet
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>
> It'd be even funnier when blitz had to pay the 10% seller's fee on you
> $1000 bid.
>
>
> > Thanks for calling us lame,
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> lame,
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> chris
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In a message dated 1/5/01 7:05:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, gt303@juno.com 
writes:

<< dood the reason they don't know is cos' they
 didn't ask me.
  >>

They asked me what I was gonna play...  cuz I'm SPECIAL  (my mommy told me 
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Hope to see a bunch of peeps that I don't know out there tonight.  I plan to 
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"My angel is a centerfold"

meep

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Subject: [mw] Chicago Techno Tonight

tonight saturday 01.06.01

pure / covalent / syntax / interrupt media group present

MAN MACHINE

featuring performances by

dave siska (covalent/wnur)
karl meier (syntax/wnur)
ken meier (interrupt media group/whpk)

taking place at rednofive
440 north halsted street in chicago
(at the corner of halsted and hubbard)

doors open promptly at 10 pm and close at 4 AM
cover charge is $10 before midnight
strictly 21 and over please

for more information visit www.purefuture.com 
or send an email to siska@isoc.com

thanks for supporting the chicago techno underground

--
ken meier
interrupt media group
jkmeier@uchicago.edu



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Subject: [mw] [LG] January - March info 

LG/LIQUIFIED NEWSLETTER:

Happy new year to all.  Liquid Groove would like to thank everyone who attended our new years event in atlanta.

Now coming up we have a bunch of great events in Atlanta, Los Angeles and North Carolina.

1st - Saturday January 27th 2001 - Atlanta GA featuring LUKE SLATER and DOC MARTIN. The full info for that is below.

2nd - Saturday February 3rd 2001 - Atlanta GA featuring RICHIE HAWTIN and JOHN ACQUAVIVA at a BRAND NEW VENUE. The full info will be released next week.

3rd - Saturday February 10th 2001 - Raliegh NC featuring BAD BOY BILL, AK1200 and KAZELL. Info on that can be found out by calling 336-643-2186.

4th - Saturday February 17th 2001 - Atlanta GA featuring CARL COX and HYBRID (live). That info will be released next week

5th - Wednesday February 21st 2001 - Los Angeles featuring JOHN DIGWEED and the GU:19 LAUNCH PARTY taking place at THE MAYAN. If you would like the info on this event please e-mail liquified@mindspring.com

6th - Saturday February 24th 2001 - Atlanta GA featuring JOHN DIGWEED. this event will be 21 and over. Info out soon.

After these dates we will have an event on March 10th and March 31st will be the next LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE.

Thanks as always and here is the January 27th info...

LIQUID GROOVE
Saturday January 27th 2001
Atlanta GA

Main Room:

LUKE SLATER
(novamute recordings, UK)
A prodigious talent, Slater has long been at the forefront of British techno. Coming to prominence in the early '90's, his name became synonymous with a brutal and uncompromising sound. With such infamous works as Freek Funk, All Exhale, and wireless to name a few, slater has proved to the world that he is here to stay. Please welcome Luke slater for his first ever Atlanta appearance.


DOC MARTIN
(wax records, tight, LA)


CLAY IVEY
(F-111, kinke, Atlanta)


ROOM 2

KOLIA
(liquid groove, lush)


CHRISTIAN MICHAEL
(upper managment, ATA, Atlanta)


SEXTRON 01 (live)
(SX.01-FidelityFlip-MAFDDAP)


NASIR
(Spiritwalker/Smiling
Cat/Playhouse, atlanta)


INFORMATION
18+ welcome w/ ID
Doors open at 11:00 PM
2 Rooms of Turbosound

Tickets:
Limited number of tickets for
$15
after they are gone $20


TICKET OUTLETS:
Buy tickets only from these stores
($1 surcharge at some locations)
Satellite 404-880-9746
Rewind 404-827-9463
Candy (Athens, GA) 706-549-0191
Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
Alices White Rabbit: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-918-0961
Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
Manifest: (Greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
Smoke: (Gainesville, FL) - 352-379-7670
Vinyl Fever (Tallahassee, FL) --850-580-3480


Location:
CELEBRATION HALL
Downtown Atlanta
181 Ralph David Abernathy

DIRECTIONS:
>From The North: Go I-75/85 south into downtown. Get off at the Futlon St/ Turner Field exit. At the light go right. Go to your 1st light (Pryor st) and go left. Then go to your 2nd light (Ralph David Abernathy) and make a left. Venue is on left across from Amaco

>From the South: Go I-75/85 north towards downtown. Get off at Fultonst/Central Ave/ Dowtown exit. Stay to your righttowards fulton st. Go to your first light and go left. Go to your 2nd light (Pryor st.) and make a left. Go to your 2nd light (Ralph David Abernathy) and go left. Venue is on left.

>From the west: Go I-20 east to the Windsor St. / Spring St/ Turner Field exit. Go Straight off the exit to your 2nd stop light (Pryor) and Go right. Go to your 3rd light (Ralph David Abernathy) and Go left. Venue is on left.

>From The East: Go I-20 west to the Capital Ave / Downtown/ Ga Dome exit. Go to your 1st light (Capital Ave) and make a left. Go to tyour 3rd light (Georgia Ave) and go right. Go about 1 mile and venue is on the right across from amaco.

Upcoming Events
Sat Feb. 3rd Richie Hawtin & John Acquaviva
Wed Feb 14th - Valentines day
Sat Feb 17th Carl Cox & Hybrid
Sat Feb 24th - JOHN DIGWEED 21 and over event
Sat March 10th - tba
Sat March 31st Liquified Universe

24 hour info
404-257-2515 www.liquified.com



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Subject: Re: [mw] becka and 666ty's shindiggy

I think you left it in El Segundo.
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Subject: Re: [mw] Invasion Lamis

Hey, do you think we could debate something a little stupider? This just 
isn't inane enough.

>
>On 01/05/2001 3.57 PM Matt Murphy put out the following propaganda:
>
> > Congratulations, you've now confirmed that the invasion crew is in fact
> > lame. Selling your lammies? Bragging about getting one of your own 
>lammies
> > for free? Give me a break! Lammies are a tool to tell security who's ass 
>to
> > kick off stage, not some kind of damn status symbol.
>
>look the reason we are doing it is because it has been requested by a lot 
>of
>people at our parties, people have said that they would pay to have a set
>printed for them and we thought rather than sell numerous sets, we would
>auction off just one, that way they feel like they have gotten something
>that is unique to them (as it will be personalized with their name), 
>instead
>of just another laminate that everyone else has...as far as being a tool, i
>have put a lot of work into making Invasion laminates, it is not only a 
>tool
>to identify who has "ALL ACCESS", but also an art form, if they were truly
>just a "tool", we would just use the same laminate with the same text
>saying, "INVASION CREW", over and over again, rather than spending my time
>making an original image for each party, and spending money printing and
>personalizing the laminates for each and every party...you know i guess 
>this
>really bothers you doesn't it, i guess if you decide the Invasion is lame
>because of something we are trying to do because it has been requested by
>people attending our parties, i would hate to see how u would judge us if 
>we
>just ignored everyone that attended our parties and didn't care what they
>said or requested...by the way, have you even seen the laminates or are you
>just going off without actually investigating???  check them out, then if
>you feel the same way, that they are just "another laminate" or "just a
>tool", SO BE IT, we know your opinion, but if not let me/us/Invasion 
>know!!!
>
>check them out here:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1402490634&r=0&t=0&sh
>owTutorial=0&ed=979534538&indexURL=0&rd=1
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>Commercialization/Sell-outs are good & necessary because,
>the scene, the music, & the vibe, must remain in the
>morphing shadows of the underground, where constant
>imagination osmosis keeps things evolving, keeps things
>original, & keeps things creative, cutting edge.
>The labels/names change, the sound changes, the entities
>change, but the underground evolutionary/revolutionary stays
>constant...todays underground cutting edge=tomorrow's mainstream!!!
>
>Shannon 'bLiTz666' Magnani
>ICQ# 23795954
>http://bounce.to/blitzgrafx
>The Mighty FreeBass Collective & Conspiracy unINC.
>Invasion Productions: 515.830.1893/Invasioncrew@aol.com
>Invasion club nite: Arrival @ Club Ibiza, downtown Des Moines
>starting Wed 1/10/01 & Wed 1/24/01  8-2pm  ALLAGES!!!
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Well I can see I'm in for a lawsuit.


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Subject: [mw] Pulse Jan 27 In PGH

Cloudbreak Productions Presents.....
Pulse
A Benefit For The American Cancer Society
**All Proceeds Benefit The American Cancer Society**
Saturday, January 27th
10-6am
$20
412-808-3306
cloudbreakp-@yahoo.com

featuring

Room 1
Forest Green (from the movie Groove)
Bing Ching (from the movie Groove)
Andrew Phelan
The Mighty Mezz
Tim vs. Ted Zelch
DJ Messy (cd release party)
Kingpin

Room 2(Da DnB Room)

Focus (Nc's top Dn'B Dj First appearance to an all
ages Crowd here in Pgh!)Hypersonic/Murder on decks
NC

Aria -&- L. Black If you remember how good these
guys were at Accelerate and at chaotic
TransDementions a must see! Skunk works/Goodlooking

Adam Bomb-(First appearence in PGH)Battered
Armadillo Youngstown Oh

MVP-Atomic battle of the Djs winner
412DnB/FaithinDnB FUZE resident

Binac (aka Nick Bulletproof)-Bulletproof/412Dnb

DJ Depth/with Mc Nicka-FaithinDnb pgh

Dj Kuggs-FaithinDn'B Pgh

Giveaways from Kinetic Records!!!

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Subject: Re: [mw] invasion lamis

you kids are a mess.  stop criticizing others and do yourself some good.

i can't write much because i'm out of order.



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> I think you left it in El Segundo.

i gots to get it, gots gots to get it.







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If you haven't seen it yet, go see Requiem for a Dream as soon as possible.
But be prepared, it will probably be the most disturbing film you've ever seen.
A brilliant story, with brilliant acting, brilliantly directed by Darren Aronofsky
(the director of "Pi").  I don't even know how to start describing this film,
so check out the website and the reviews.  Seriously a must see...

Official Website - incredible, one of the best sites I've EVER seen:
www.requiemforadream.com

Standard review:
http://movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/r/requiem_dream.html

Detailed review - warning - gives away pretty much the entire movie:
http://www.nitrateonline.com/2000/rrequiem.html

I have to warn you again - this movie will really fuck with your 
heart, head and soul...but you HAVE to see it.

	- Joe


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<<Official Website - incredible, one of the best sites I've EVER seen:>>

the guy that did this website is the same guy that did the site for Amon
Tobin which is still in my opinion one of if not the best looking site
around. www.amontobin.com.  A programmer friend of mine was telling me about
the guy.

shawne

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> A brilliant story, with brilliant acting, brilliantly directed by Darren
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> Official Website - incredible, one of the best sites I've EVER seen:
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> Standard review:
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> http://www.nitrateonline.com/2000/rrequiem.html
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I have never ever been to a rave before.... and I wanna go to one. Can 
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Subject: [mw] hey j3s!!!

Sorry for posting this, I don't know which address to send an e-mail to..

I found your scarf!


-Jen

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Subject: [mw] *Pulse* Jan27 in PGH Pa Featuring the Dj's from GROOVE the movie

 
Cloud Break 
Productions Presents.....

***PULSE***

A Benefit For The American Cancer Society:)
**All Proceeds Benefit The American Cancer Society**

Saturday, January 27th
In Pittsburgh Pa
starting from 10:OO and Ending at 6am
$15 Presale
$20 at the door

Featuring
Djs from the Movie GROOVE!

Room 1
FOREST GREEN (from the movie Groove)(Sister SF, Cloud
Factory, Organized Chaos, FnF, San Francisco) 
Actively involved in the world-wide underground dance
scene, Forest Green spins Techno, Electro, House and
various derivatives of all other electronic 
music. She is involved in many projects and
collectives through out the San Francisco Bay Area and
Canada, and is featured in the movie GROOVE, an 
independent feature film set during one night in the
San Francisco underground rave scene

BING CHING (also from the movie Groove)Cloud Factory

THE MIGHTY MEZZ (F.E.S.P.) A New York resident comes
back to Pittsburgh to take you on a journey with his
seamless blend of progressive beats and 
trance-core energy. 

Tim vs. Ted Zelch Twin pro.

DJ Messy (cd release party).CloudBreak Productions /
Lolli.org) CD Release Party! DJ Messy will 
be releasing his new CD Verkurzt with awesome sounds
of Progressive House and UK Hardhouse.  You can't miss
this!!!  Free giveaways!!! 

Andrew Phelan

Kingpin cloud break pro. 

Room 2(Da DnB Room)

Focus (Nc's top Dn'B Dj First appearance to an all
ages Crowd here in Pgh!)Hypersonic/Murder on decks
NC

Aria -&- Mc L. Black Skunk works/Goodlooking
 If you remember how good these guys were at
Accelerate and at chaotic TransDementions, well were
bringing them back a must see! 

Adam Bomb-(First appearence in PGH)Battered 
Armadillo Youngstown Oh

MVP-Atomic battle of the Djs winner 
412DnB/FaithinDnB FUZE resident

Binac (aka Nick Bulletproof)-Bulletproof/412Dnb

DJ Depth/with Mc Nicka-FaithinDnb pgh

Dj Kuggs-FaithinDn'B Pgh

Free Giveaways from Kinetic Records!!!  
17+ With valad Id

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hey the movie groove... where is poly wag. or the chinese kid who kept on 
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Subject: [mw] Mazi AKA Audio Soul Chart Return Jan. 7th



Mazi (aka Audio Soul Project / Studio Nova)
Chart Return: January 7th 2001
Venue: Madbar (Thursdays), Various
Music: All things house

1.  Fish Go Deep "Half Step EP" /Brique Rouge
2.  David Duriez pres. Circle Theory "My Funk" /Ryzms
3.  Audio Soul Project "Free Falling" /Gourmet
4.  Chris Lum & Jay J "Smells Like Moulton Street" /Afterhours
5.  ???? "Jest For Me" /White Label
6.  Paul Johnson "Get On My Camel" (Mazi's Audio Soul Dub) /Essence
7.  Alexander East "Love Letters" /Simple Soul
8.  Pure Science "Taste My Vibe" /B Positive
9.  Soul Vision "You've Been On My Mind" (Audio Soul Revamp) /Fluential
10.  DJ Bang "DJ Bang make you Jiu-jitsu" /Classic
11.  Mazi & Chris Udoh "This Planet" /Siesta
12.  MFA "Living Without You" (Ten Bar Mix) /Absolute Pressure
13.  Chris Simmonds "Still Workin' EP" /Bosh
14.  Natural Rhythm "Pulse Nine" (Original Dub) /Serious Sounds
15.  Yann Fontaine "Higher & Over" /Simple Soul

For bookings contact:
Lori Riegler
Jet Set Artist Agency/Gourmet Recordings
PMB 140
1658 N. Milwaukee Ave.
Chicago, Il 60647
773-539-2285 PH
773-539-3120 FX
www.gojetsetdj.com/www.gourmetrecordings.com

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--- -THE bitch iySyS- <baronessk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> : couldn't hurt a fly the sweet thang.
> 
> ask the winey ass trance dj who was bitchin all
> night about the bruise on
> his leg from me kickin him....then hear him say i
> cant hurt a fly


hahaha boys always cry more than girls my best
friend's bf still crys over me kicking him in the eye
a year ago :O)  damn whiney men they suck!!!

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> i can't write much because i'm out of order.
THEN YOU SHOULD GET A NEW ONE!


NEW ORDER FOR LIFE DOOOD!

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turn around
there is a rave right behind you right now as i type
you have to be quick, if you turn around too slow the ravers will hide and
you won't see them.
trust me
they all have phattie lammies too, so they must be elite ravers behind you.
 
comforting eh! 



I have never ever been to a rave before.... and I wanna go to one. Can 
someone help me find out where one is in Northern Michigan? 

Thanks 
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--- SLaPiNFuNK@aol.com wrote:
> Ummmm actually mam,
> BLITZ666 does some of our flyers and our lammies..
> he isnot a CORE invasion 
> crew member..  there are only 5 of those and we are
> all dj's

and it was important to re-establish these facts
because??

hey, do you guys spin at your own parties man?? that
is so tacky.

> If invasion was shady bitches we would charge 20 bux
> for a party with a huge 
> flyer and only have 3000 watt''s of sound and crappy
> venue's and shitty dj's..

because we all know that these are the only things
that make promoters shady bitches. (i'm left wondering
if the promoter who throws the above party is to
blame, or the dipshits that pay to get into said
party)

yep.

mornin.
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In a message dated 01/08/2001 07:56:08, stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< 
mornin. >>

Mornin :)

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mornin. >>

Mornin :)

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this is very "the waltons" of y'all.

mornin' john boy.
-t

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In a message dated 01/08/2001 07:56:08, stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< 
mornin. >>

Mornin :)

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oh yeah.. aoHELL was fuckin up.  Appypollylogies for the multie mails.

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Yo,

I'm new.  I listen to mostly trance and a bit of jungle.  I don't limit 
myself to just electronic music but that's ok.  If you wanna talk to me go 
ahead but until i get the feel of this list i'll just lurk for a while.

L8eRz..............I ate cake today


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Yo,
I'm new.
mostly trance
I don't limit myself
until i get the feel of this list
L8eRz..............I ate cake today


GO AHEAD EVERYONE, HERE'S YOUR BAIT.....TEAR HIM UP!!!!!!  AHAHAHAHAHA....



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From mw-raves-return-13293-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 08 16:22:46 2001
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fuck trance

except for Kurt's trance :)

Love,
  Nick

PS - I love Paul Oakenfold
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> I'm new.  I listen to mostly trance and a bit of jungle.  I don't limit
> myself to just electronic music but that's ok.  If you wanna talk to me go
> ahead but until i get the feel of this list i'll just lurk for a while.
>
> L8eRz..............I ate cake today

    Are you saying you live in Edina? God damn cake eaters...

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From mw-raves-return-13295-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 08 16:24:40 2001
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eh, but he listens to music other than electronica.

i wouldn't feel right until i know what that other stuff is - he could be
big into punk, or maybe he likes matchbox 20.

i also wanna know what kind of cake one eates before 10am.

woah, oahh, oahhaeeyyeeoooo, hangin tough...
-t


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Subject: [mw] New Kid on the Block


Yo,
I'm new.
mostly trance
I don't limit myself
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L8eRz..............I ate cake today


GO AHEAD EVERYONE, HERE'S YOUR BAIT.....TEAR HIM UP!!!!!!  AHAHAHAHAHA....

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except for Kurt's trance :)
  awwww nick, look at you.....thanks.

but i can't fuggun stand paul oakenfold's vocal crap.....eeeeeeewwwwwwwww.



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>lol yup Bretard is one of my nick names too lol....

omg lol!  omg!  lol

mk

ps lol

pps omg!!  lol!!
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I DON'T KNOW BUT IT BE SOME STUBBORN ASS FUNK.  IT WON'T COME OUT NO MATTER 
HOW MANY TIMES I WASH THIS SUIT IN THE URINAL AT THE GREYOUND STATION.

misquoting the pimpbot,
mk

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oh YEAH but you play *happy hardcore* - JUST HOW IN THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED 
TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY SIR?!#@$^%@$#^

mk

>me me me, oh wait i dont have pay for them I get one free!! And dont for 
>get that people will not only sell anything they will also post anything!!
>
>
>Kyle(this is the first time that Ive posted)

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oh YEAH but you play *happy hardcore* - JUST HOW IN THE HELL AM I
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mk<br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>me me me,
oh wait i dont have pay for them I get one free!! And dont for get that
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&nbsp;<br>
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<font face="arial" size=2>Kyle(this is the first time that Ive
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>yeah, but people usually aren't rolling when they browse Ebay.

speak for yourself guy!!

"E" - bay,
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>speak for yourself.

note to self:  when mail sits in queue all weekend, browse mail for replie 
before sending one of your own, as griggles may have posted that reply already.

redundant,
mk

redundant,
mk

redundant,
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>jesus is the answer.

i belieeeeeeve.  that love is the answer.

blessed union of mk
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speaking of old lammies, has anyone sene 187 play lately?  he used to wear 
all the lammies from all the parties he'd ever been involved with/played at 
around his neck in a big pile.  i'd never seen anyone else do that, there 
were things around his neck from like 93.  i doubt s/he still does that tho 
since as i understand it the "new" 187 is more concerned with fashion, like 
a good woman should be.

err,
mk
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BEKKA LIFTING HER SHIRT UP IN FRONT OF ME WAS PERT-NEAR A RELIGIOUS
EXPERIENCE....YIKES.
(NO OFFENSE IF SOMEONE WATCHING IS HER MAN, OR WOMAN, ONLY PROPS.....)



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>
>     Are you saying you live in Edina? God damn cake eaters...

No.  I live in Byron IL near Rockford.  I ate cake because i had foods class 
first hour(i'm a senior in HS).  AND IT WAS GOOD CAKE!!


L8eRz...........My cake was better than yours


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>
>i wouldn't feel right until i know what that other stuff is - he could be
>big into punk, or maybe he likes matchbox 20.

Other music i is into: punk, industrial, metal, hard rock, and whatever the 
hell you could classify Velvet Acid Christ as

>
>i also wanna know what kind of cake one eates before 10am.

Angel food cake with sugary frosting

L8eRz...........I'M NOT AN ALLIGATOR!

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>mornin' john boy

"g'nite, ned."
"g'nite, ned."
<turtle> "g'nite, ned!"

mk amigo

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> or i guess you just don't get it either...it was a
> BIG JOKE, the auction,
> but i thought i would see how far i could take ya...
>  : P

i'm sorry, forgive me please, and pardon my intrusion,
but this sounds just like one of those "oh you guys
thought my idea was retarded well it was just a BIG
JOKE!! HA HA!! WATCH ME LAUGH AT YOU CAUSE YOU'RE
STUPID!! HA HA!!!"

anyone else? candy chris, perhaps?

;]
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> anyone else? candy chris, perhaps?

there is no candy chris.

someone sold him k-rolls that were rat poison and ever since that, he's
been a jaded hardass.  he listens to gabber now and says "fuck the stupid
rave scene" a lot.

goddamn ravers,

hardass chris


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> Mad hatter

    You may feel dismayed to know there is another mad hatter located here
in the minneapple, he is in fact a "Dee-Jay", who spins "records" on his
little "turtables", so you might want to "forfeit" your name or incur his
"wrath", or maybe just make him look bad.

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> > Mad hatter
> 
>     You may feel dismayed to know there is another mad hatter 
> located here
> in the minneapple, he is in fact a "Dee-Jay", who spins 
> "records" on his
> little "turtables", so you might want to "forfeit" your name 
> or incur his
> "wrath", or maybe just make him look bad.
or you could put your name in quotes like this: "mad hatter"
or maybe you want to steal his "turtables" so he won't "spin"
using your "name"

"dawg"


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><<Official Website - incredible, one of the best sites I've EVER seen:>>
>
>the guy that did this website is the same guy that did the site for Amon
>Tobin which is still in my opinion one of if not the best looking site
>around. www.amontobin.com.  A programmer friend of mine was telling me about
>the guy.

Guy... or guy(s)... the both sites are attributed to the brilliant folks at Hi, Res! in the UK (http://www.hi-res.net).  They've done some other work for Ninja Tune, most notably the Xen Cuts site and ntone.  After Requiem & Amon, their profile has increased and now they're doing work for the Beatles (the "Get Back" section for "1" at http://www.thebeatles.com/getback) among others.



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--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> this is very "the waltons" of y'all.
> 
> mornin' john boy.
> -t

y'know, my father's mother's great uncle's grandnephew
married a mccoy.

you ain't a hatfield, is you boy?
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> GO AHEAD EVERYONE, HERE'S YOUR BAIT.....TEAR HIM
> UP!!!!!!  AHAHAHAHAHA....

what are you talking about?

*blink*
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!bigups oldskool columbus !#@%

mk

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What ever happened to chips and salsa chris?

second line

    -bill



>===== Original Message From <chrise@pubnix.org> =====
>> anyone else? candy chris, perhaps?
>
>there is no candy chris.
>
>someone sold him k-rolls that were rat poison and ever since that, he's
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>goddamn ravers,
>
>hardass chris
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fuck

yes

line 3

line 4
line 4.5
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making each and every workminute more exciting.
pixie

--- chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> 
> > anyone else? candy chris, perhaps?
> 
> there is no candy chris.
> 
> someone sold him k-rolls that were rat poison and
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> goddamn ravers,
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> hardass chris
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then why the f*ck do you like trance?

-t

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>
>i wouldn't feel right until i know what that other stuff is - he could be
>big into punk, or maybe he likes matchbox 20.

Other music i is into: punk, industrial, metal, hard rock, and whatever the 

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what are you talking about?

*blink*
pixie

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On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:50:26 -0600, Mad Hatter wrote:

>
>No.  I live in Byron IL near Rockford.  

Ahh...That explains why he's "Mad".
He grew up by the nuke plant !

You should call yourself the "Human Glowstick" instead... ;)


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Hey,

I have been out of the loop for a while now, so its probably common 
knowledge here but, whatever happened to Massive Magazine?  I loved that 
rag...

scoop it,
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that sounds awfully 31337157

are you sure? i always thought this list was pretty
PLURRY

*squint*
pixie

p.s. i paid .75 to join this list...maybe that's why
i'm exempt



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> what are you talking about?
> 
> *blink*
> pixie
> 
> just whenever someone new arrives, someone goes in
> for the kill and picks on
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> then why the f*ck do you like trance?
because he hates himself!

duh.

> >i wouldn't feel right until i know what that other stuff is 
> - he could be
> >big into punk, or maybe he likes matchbox 20.
> 
> Other music i is into: punk, industrial, metal, hard rock, 
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On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 12:47:10 -0500, Adam Meadows wrote:

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>Hey,
>
>I have been out of the loop for a while now, so its probably common 
>knowledge here but, whatever happened to Massive Magazine?  I loved that 
>rag...

Reorganizing.  But it will be back.  When is another question...

	- Joe


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will it get me laid?

-t

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--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> this is very "the waltons" of y'all.
> 
> mornin' john boy.
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you ain't a hatfield, is you boy?
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so all this garbage and error messages is part of the avant-garde appeal of 
this site, right?

recalibrating his artsy metre,
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that sounds awfully 31337157.....
what?

i really didn't get any either.......what do i have to do to get picked on
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> i just spent a week in edina and i didn't eat one piece of cake.
> drat!

    Was that edina, MN? Well if you didn't eat cake, you missed the full
edina experience. Did you at least get lost for a half hour or more?

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> what are you talking about?
> 
> *blink*
> pixie
> 
> just whenever someone new arrives, someone goes in for the 
> kill and picks on
> em....it's like dues being paid for joining.


mw-raves is getting old, must be if we are being selective of who we rip
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Hey-- I belive (this is what I remember reading in some of the advance 
publicity material from the movie), the DJ's, and everyone else portrayed, 
are characters, actors, portraying some of the more interesting 
characteristics of both some of the more well known peeps in the scene, 
along with the those present to ensure the propa flava....It seemed to me 
(and I think I read this also, that some of the DJ's represent some well 
known local faves) That DJ Polly Wog was supposed to be like Sandra Collins.

Great movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I liked it far better than 'Human 
Traffic' - that was more of a clubbers movie, not a ravers.

(-<)

Linda Leigh/L3
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At 11:48 PM 1/7/01 -0500, RyDe510@aol.com wrote:
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>fucking up?
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> so all this garbage and error messages is part of the avant-garde appeal
of
> this site, right?
>
> recalibrating his artsy metre,
> mk

    Yes, consider yourself cultured now.

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possibly. it might also get you shot. 

your risk ;]
pixie


--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> will it get me laid?
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [mw] Invasion Lamis
> 
> 
> --- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
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> > 
> > mornin' john boy.
> > -t
> 
> you ain't a hatfield, is you boy?
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nah, its just some people are better targets than others.

/me puts on Anne Murray just to see if anyone notices.

-t

hey, if anyone wants to play with my new creation, let me know...

http://guyswithglowsticks.com (or girlswithglowsticks, or
girlwithglowsticks, or guywithglowsticks - its all about the branding).

better yet, don't let me know, just go there.  its an "amihotornot" clone.
i'm hoping that it ends up more sarcastic.  its not done, but its fully
functional.  if you get weird error messages, cope.  i need more pics too.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [mw] NKOTB


> what are you talking about?
> 
> *blink*
> pixie
> 
> just whenever someone new arrives, someone goes in for the 
> kill and picks on
> em....it's like dues being paid for joining.


mw-raves is getting old, must be if we are being selective of who we rip
into.

what a sad day this is

the world weeps with you

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On Mon, 08 Jan 2001 11:42:39 -0600, michael knight wrote:

>so all this garbage and error messages is part of the avant-garde appeal of 
>this site, right?

Yes, it is intentional - not real errors.  I like it.
Don't be discouraged if you don't.  Dig deeper.

I liked it before I saw the movie, although I
didn't explore it deeply then.  It is even better
after you have seen the film.

	- Joe


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ooooooh, yeah, hmmm, well, I may be wrong...it's happened before...here is 
the link to the Independant Movie Database for the cast 
listing...    http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0212974

Linda

sorry to send mail twice. hey

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>fucking up?
>
>Tommy RyDe
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fixed, erg, all the ads are not mine (yet) i have some tweaking to fix yet.

play away though,

-t

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adrotator's fucked. might wanna fix dat shit yo.


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couldn't tell ya. I'm not exactly an art expert, but I know that
www.amontobin.com didn't have any of it but is still a kick-ass site

picasso jr i aint
shawne
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> so all this garbage and error messages is part of the avant-garde appeal
of
> this site, right?
>
> recalibrating his artsy metre,
> mk
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>Yes, consider yourself cultured now.

well there's something very wrong with that.

i'm immediately going to 1wrestling.com and instensley reading each 
newsline item in an attempt to distanct myself from this "culture".  yikes.

mk


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> >Yes, consider yourself cultured now.
>
> well there's something very wrong with that.
>
> i'm immediately going to 1wrestling.com and instensley reading each
> newsline item in an attempt to distanct myself from this "culture".
yikes.

    Yes, positive proof right here, that weird artsy error messages on a
cool flash site for a weird movie make you cultured. I read it on the
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From mw-raves-return-13342-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 08 18:36:01 2001
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Really... I was kidding about the whole Paul Oakenfold thing... but then
again, this is mw-raves... so no one is every serious... ever... right?

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 kalbrecht@pentairwater.com wrote:

> 
> except for Kurt's trance :)
>   awwww nick, look at you.....thanks.
> 
> but i can't fuggun stand paul oakenfold's vocal crap.....eeeeeeewwwwwwwww.
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are you being serious now?

how about now?

now?

-t

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Really... I was kidding about the whole Paul Oakenfold thing... but then
again, this is mw-raves... so no one is every serious... ever... right?

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From mw-raves-return-13344-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 08 18:44:34 2001
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so no one is every serious... ever... right?.....im finding that's true.

are you being serious now?

how about now?
yes....i am being serious.  seriously setting myself up to get
shredded..........
(hesitates)
what is it exactly that all you trance-o-phobes don't like?

oh, man, i can't wait for the replies to pour in like so much vomit.



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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->
-->>jesus is the answer.
-->
-->i belieeeeeeve.  that love is the answer.

punk rock is the reason.
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> Really... I was kidding about the whole Paul Oakenfold 
> thing... but then
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> ever... right?
wrong
i am serious all times
i thought we all were

except for this email
but other than this one i am serious all times


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i'll be snarged.

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> what is it exactly that all you trance-o-phobes
> don't like?
> 
> oh, man, i can't wait for the replies to pour in
> like so much vomit.

trance?

what are you talking about?

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-----Original Message-----
From: Noble Long 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:36 AM
To: 'kalbrecht@pentairwater.com'
Subject: RE: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!


trance rules. Those who have to be rebellious to the melodic tones of trance
because it's too pansy for them will never enjoy life to the fullest ....
the smell of a rose, the beauty of the night sky, etc.

you are not alone.

onelove.
Noble

-----Original Message-----
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so no one is every serious... ever... right?.....im finding that's true.

are you being serious now?

how about now?
yes....i am being serious.  seriously setting myself up to get
shredded..........
(hesitates)
what is it exactly that all you trance-o-phobes don't like?

oh, man, i can't wait for the replies to pour in like so much vomit.



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once again
"everyone in quotes"

--- "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote:
> > > Mad hatter
> > 
> >     You may feel dismayed to know there is another
> mad hatter 
> > located here
> > in the minneapple, he is in fact a "Dee-Jay", who
> spins 
> > "records" on his
> > little "turtables", so you might want to "forfeit"
> your name 
> > or incur his
> > "wrath", or maybe just make him look bad.
> or you could put your name in quotes like this: "mad
> hatter"
> or maybe you want to steal his "turtables" so he
> won't "spin"
> using your "name"
> 
> "dawg"
> 
> 
> ps
> the hills are alive
> 
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Subject: RE: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!

> oh, man, i can't wait for the replies to pour in like so much vomit.
i hope the replies come in privately except for this one:

1. many people dont like trance on this list
2. many are uninformed and bandwagonning the idea of disliking trance
3. many people probably like old-skool acid techno
4. many still feel they should be seperate things and that trance dj's
shouldn't cammoflauge as techno dj's
5. its really the epic cheese stuff that gets to a lot of people
6. lastly, trance sucks cos its cool to say trance sucks
7. lastly, again, trance sucks cos it really is horrible music


now, we've had this conversation 98times before in the last year alone

please, off list everyone?

or should we start a trance-sucks egroup list?
hosted in uraguay?


thank you.

vinegar and water

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I'M NOT AN ALLIGATOR!

but you are gay
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i sorta think you might be an alligator.

have you checked?  recently?

i need evidence, or else you are an alligator.

of unknown alligator status,
-t

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I'M NOT AN ALLIGATOR!

but you are gay
goodbye

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I saw her quite a while ago, and she didn't have any
lamies on, just a very nice attractive outfit.
No lamies
Is Jordana still playing btw?

--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> speaking of old lammies, has anyone sene 187 play
> lately?  he used to wear 
> all the lammies from all the parties he'd ever been
> involved with/played at 
> around his neck in a big pile.  i'd never seen
> anyone else do that, there 
> were things around his neck from like 93.  i doubt
> s/he still does that tho 
> since as i understand it the "new" 187 is more
> concerned with fashion, like 
> a good woman should be.
> 
> err,
> mk
>
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actually I think the answer is 42
But its been a while
and hey, who's keeping track?

--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> >jesus is the answer.
> 
> i belieeeeeeve.  that love is the answer.
> 
> blessed union of mk
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If
> you wanna talk to me go 
> ahead but until i get the feel of this list i'll
> just lurk for a while.

Its a bunch of bitchy assholes.
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could someone post the url for the Requiem site again?

d-key happy,
greg

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Craig Stodolenak wrote:

-->><<Official Website - incredible, one of the best sites I've EVER seen:>>
-->>
-->>the guy that did this website is the same guy that did the site for Amon
-->>Tobin which is still in my opinion one of if not the best looking site
-->>around. www.amontobin.com.  A programmer friend of mine was telling me about
-->>the guy.
-->
-->Guy... or guy(s)... the both sites are attributed to the brilliant folks at Hi, Res! in the UK (http://www.hi-res.net).  They've done some other work for Ninja Tune, most notably the Xen Cuts site and ntone.  After Requiem & Amon, their profile has increased and now they're doing work for the Beatles (the "Get Back" section for "1" at http://www.thebeatles.com/getback) among others.
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In a message dated 1/8/01 1:52:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
micah.topping@eds.com writes:

<< 1. many people dont like trance on this list >>

many..not all..
besides.. I still can't figure out what the sin is..liking trance that is..
(( trance by far isn't my fav.. techno is where it's at..))
There are excellent tracks and dj's .. that are probly better than half the 
people that post to this list...
~mph

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Subject: [mw] hello


hey everyone
           im new to this list and i wanted to say hello and im from 
illinois and just wandering if any one knows about some upcoming raves in 
the st louis,peoria,springfield or even chicago area just let me know i 
would be very happy!!!!!!
                           jamie
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>could someone post the url for the Requiem site again?
>

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> actually I think the answer is 42
> But its been a while
> and hey, who's keeping track?
well yes.

but 

even more importantly

music is the answer
to all your problems

i can feel the vibe


jolly green bile

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Subject: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS


the smell of a rose, the beauty of the night sky, etc.

you are not alone.

and noble steps up to the plate!  asking for it, just begging.  but i agree, my
friend, not so much that those who...life to the fullest, but that you're
missing something.  i for one cannot stand clanky, repetitive hard techno.  or
tooth-shattering hard jungle. or noise-core---or whatever the hell hardcore has
become.....and everyone knows house is lame.



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> << 1. many people dont like trance on this list >>
> 
> many..not all..
wow its a good thing you corrected my statement

otherwise i dont know what i would have done.

thank you.
not only were you redundant but you didnt repeat anything of worth!

you are my motherfucking hero.



someone get the cowbell its time for dinner


ps.

rave

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i feel the need to interject. (imagine that)

1. many people dont like pants on this list
2. many are uninformed and bandwaggoning the idea of
disliking pants, most likely because micah told them
to.
3. many people probably like old-skool acid techno,
although many of those people are probably not on tihs
list, and if they were, they wouldn't be discussing
old skool acid techno because it would be beneath them
to grace pants-heads with their presence.
4. many still feel they should seperate things,
people, places, and trance dj's and put them into a
new category called "pants dj's" so that we can still
discuss them after micah has discussed them and then
requested that no one else discuss them because he's
wearing pants.
5. its really the epic cheese stuff that gets to a
lot of people
6. lastly, trance sucks cos its cool to say trance
sucks, but pants sucks just ousted trance sucks as the
cool thing to say, so we're not discussing trance
anymore. unless micah says it's okay. then i'll have
to put my pants back on.
7. since the last lastly wasn't really the last
lastly, then this lastly will serve as the real lastly
in which we lastly state that trance with or without
pants is generally known to be unpleasant for many
reasons, though i've also been informed that trance
without pants can get kinda kinky. i wouldn't know
about that, though.

can someone please fix the clock? it's supposed to
read 4.30...thanks
pixie


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me or cap boy?
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> I'M NOT AN ALLIGATOR!
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> There are excellent tracks and dj's .. that are
> probly better than half the 
> people that post to this list...

whether or not a track or dj is better than half the
people on this list isn't really relevant to whether
someone has the right to like or dislike it.

in other words, what's your point?

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> music is the answer
> to all your problems

music is the key
together we are strong 
and nothing is impossssiiiiiiiibllllllllleeee!
wooo-oooo-ooo-oooooooh!

/j






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both, either, all.

mw-raves is like a schitzophrenic person talking to themselves.

all of me.  us.  those guys.

-t

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me or cap boy?
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> i need evidence, or else you are an alligator.
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> of unknown alligator status,
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alright you got me 
I'm an alligator
I'm an alligator I'm an alligator
I'm a little fucking alligator!

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> 
> all of me.  us.  those guys.
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [mw] New Kid on the Block
> 
> 
> me or cap boy?
> second line
> 
> --- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> > i sorta think you might be an alligator.
> > 
> > have you checked?  recently?
> > 
> > i need evidence, or else you are an alligator.
> > 
> > of unknown alligator status,
> > -t
> 
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>punk rock is the reason.
>                        ^
>                        |
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>                     (period)

you're not punk, and i'm telling everyone.

mk
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> music is the answer
> to all your problems
keep you movin
and groovin
dancin
and prancin (te hehe)
music is the answer

oops sorry that wasn't me, that was my evil house
lovin twin.
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> i feel the need to interject. (imagine that)
i feel the need to intercept.

1. many people don't like pants on this shit
2. many are uninformed and bandwaggoning the idea of disliking
shit on their pants, most likely because pixie told them to.
3. many people probably like old-skool acid techno, because the shit 
on their pants reminds them of this list, and if they were on this
list, which they should be because we are discussing their pants, they 
would feel very proud of their liking of shit-pants and call it epic-trance
4. many still feel they should seperate their shit from their pants, this is

referred to as, "seperation", notice the shit-quotes on my shit-post. we
would
refer to these pants as progressive-shit-pants, because they have
"progressed"
from the shit-caked-epic-trance
5. its really the epic cheese stuff that gets to a lot of people
6. lastly, not firstly, as that would be labeled number one and not number
six,
 trance sucks because shit is cool, and if it were a cool thing to say that 
trance didnt suck, then stupid people wouldn't be saying it, and all the
cool
people wouldn't be saying cool things like "shit-trance-pants" or "trance
sucks"
because people need to be told what is cool
7. again, for the 4th time and probably not the last time, this is the last
of the lastly's, if we stated in our last, lastly that trance sucks because
it
sucks, then it is true not only for the lastly statements but also because
shit
smells badly, and if that is the last argument then it must be correct,
because few
would be willing to say, lastly, that shit smells good.
and if they say that, don't listen to them, they like shit.
or trance.

> can someone please fix the clock? it's supposed to
> read 4.30...thanks
10 minutes behind still?

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you fukkers are funny.....

alright you got me
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>trance?
>
>what are you talking about?

i think it's got something to do with drugs and large trousers.

mk
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> hey everyone
>            im new to this list and i wanted to say hello and im from 
> illinois and just wandering if any one knows about some 
> upcoming raves in 
> the st louis,peoria,springfield or even chicago area just let 
> me know i 
> would be very happy!!!!!!
>                            jamie

I PROPOSE A COMPETITION ON MW-RAVES!

we have made many people leave the list quite vocally in the past
but recently, due maybe to the free computers they got for the holidays, we
are experiencing
a resurgence(fuck spelling) in membership!

so..

lets see how fast we can make the turnaround from subscription to "annoying
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:10:28 -0800 (PST), pixie wrote:

>though i've also been informed that trance
>without pants can get kinda kinky. i wouldn't know
>about that, though.

I could help you fix that problem ;)

	- Joe


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woah

did i touch on some childhood event you'd rather not discuss (but will be
forced to?)

-t

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alright you got me 
I'm an alligator
I'm an alligator I'm an alligator
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speaking of drugs and large trousers, i'm having a blast looking for ad
banners that i think "*blink* *blink* *giggle* ravers" (quotes for you
gotti) might click on.

see if you get the joke,
-t

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>trance?
>
>what are you talking about?

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At 01:51 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
>or should we start a trance-sucks egroup list?
>hosted in uraguay?


haha.  u r gay.

mk


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>           im new to this list and i wanted to say hello and im from 
>illinois and just wandering if any one knows about some upcoming raves in 
>the st louis,peoria,springfield or even chicago area just let me know i 
>would be very happy!!!!!!
>                           jamie
>                                k
>

There is a Valentines Day themed party in St. Louis
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Subject: RE: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!

trance is kinda pants.

"haha you said 'pants'." -m+

mk
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weren't we already doing this?

-t

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I PROPOSE A COMPETITION ON MW-RAVES!

lets see how fast we can make the turnaround from subscription to "annoying
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> alright you got me 
> I'm an alligator
> I'm an alligator I'm an alligator
> I'm a little fucking alligator!
i dont believe you

alligator's can't type.


my mommy woulda told me 

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> >or should we start a trance-sucks egroup list?
> >hosted in uraguay?
> 
> 
> haha.  u r gay.
no no no

u r a gay

its a proper noun.

duh


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> weren't we already doing this?
now its "official"


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>lets see how fast we can make the turnaround from subscription to "annoying
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the problem is that www.chicagoravers.com is down.

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Subject: RE: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!

btw tony i gave micah a "10", and i'd do it again!

mk

At 01:25 PM 1/8/2001 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
>speaking of drugs and large trousers, i'm having a blast looking for ad
>banners that i think "*blink* *blink* *giggle* ravers" (quotes for you
>gotti) might click on.
>
>see if you get the joke,
>-t
>
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>Subject: Re: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!
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>
>
> >trance?
> >
> >what are you talking about?
>
>i think it's got something to do with drugs and large trousers.
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Subject: [mw] trance sucks.



To whomever was wondering about
why there seems to be such an anti-trance
presence here on MW-Raves...

Don't worry, there are plenty of people
here who like Trance.  This list has 500+
members last I remember.  I'm sure a lot
of us like Trance just fine.

The ones who always bitch about Trance
are just the more vocal, closed minded complainers
(for the most part).  Most of us here who do like Trance
keep to ourselves on the subject because we know that
musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions.  We
don't have to let the world know that our choice is
"superior" to feel better about ourselves.

	- Joe


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couldn't have said it any better myself.

onelove.
Noble

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Subject: [mw] trance sucks.




To whomever was wondering about
why there seems to be such an anti-trance
presence here on MW-Raves...

Don't worry, there are plenty of people
here who like Trance.  This list has 500+
members last I remember.  I'm sure a lot
of us like Trance just fine.

The ones who always bitch about Trance
are just the more vocal, closed minded complainers
(for the most part).  Most of us here who do like Trance
keep to ourselves on the subject because we know that
musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions.  We
don't have to let the world know that our choice is
"superior" to feel better about ourselves.

	- Joe


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> musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions.  We
> don't have to let the world know that our choice is
> "superior" to feel better about ourselves.
yeah why do that when you can cop the "im above being petty, therefore i'll
point out my superiority for it" game
instead?


i hate everything except for butter on my...


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To whomever was wondering about
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..........i just wanted to get a reaction........


TRANCE ROKKS!!!!!!



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>We
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    Yes, joe's right, we can feel better about ourselves just by watching
the whiney trance-haters.

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actions speak louder than words, and I don't think I ever hear Joe bashing
any musical genre's.

onelove.
Noble

-----Original Message-----
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> musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions.  We
> don't have to let the world know that our choice is
> "superior" to feel better about ourselves.
yeah why do that when you can cop the "im above being petty, therefore i'll
point out my superiority for it" game
instead?


i hate everything except for butter on my...


goodnight

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> >We
> > don't have to let the world know that our choice is
> > "superior" to feel better about ourselves.
> 
>     Yes, joe's right, we can feel better about ourselves just 
> by watching
> the whiney trance-haters.

and we can all laugh at how seriously you all take yourselves.

putting out another candle

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Subject: RE: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!

i concede.

micah rules my shit.

but not my pants,
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> couldn't have said it any better myself.

I COULD, THOUGH!

the anti-trance faction on this list is, for the most part, extremely
bored people at work who, for the most part, don't especially care about
trance one way or another.  However, they blow this way out of proportion
for comic effect - people tend to get extremely defensive about their
music, imagining an attack on the music they prefer to be an attack on the
very core of their identity!  mw-trance-haters, far from being the
"close-minded bigots" that they're often portrayed as, are nothing more
than harmless pranksters, with something people often refer to as "a sense
of humor!"

morethanonelove,

chris




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> Don't worry, there are plenty of people
> here who like Trance.  This list has 500+
> members last I remember.  I'm sure a lot
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> are just the more vocal, closed minded complainers
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> keep to ourselves on the subject because we know that
> musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions.  We
> don't have to let the world know that our choice is
> "superior" to feel better about ourselves.
> 
> 	- Joe
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> and we can all laugh at how seriously you all take yourselves.
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> putting out another candle

    /me kills micah by farting towards his candle.

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did you move to utah or something?

got harem?
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> speaking of drugs and large trousers, i'm having a
> blast looking for ad
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> ravers" (quotes for you
> gotti) might click on.

which reminds me, there are ravers at my work!!

they look pretty normal though. lemme see what you
think:

possible raver: what are you listening to?

me: thievery corporation

possible raver: *giggle* *blink* *blink*



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 Who the fuck is "you all" and "yourselves"?

  "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote: 
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and we can all laugh at how seriously you all take yourselves.

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:39:04 -0600, Noble Long wrote:

>actions speak louder than words, and I don't think I ever hear Joe bashing
>any musical genre's.


Actually, I'm not too fond of Happy Hardcore or vocal House,
and depending on my mood, and the people around me, I might
to bash it (ie: at a party w/ a bunch of E-ed out teenagers listening 
to Happy Hardcore or at a snotty club full of people who think 
Diva House is the be-all-end-all of electronic music.

But generally, I like a little of everything.  It's people's attitudes
towards the music that turns me off more than the music itself.

	- Joe


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> actions speak louder than words, and I don't think I ever 
> hear Joe bashing
> any musical genre's.

thats because he doesn't

he doesn't bash genres because he likes music for music and can appreciate
anything for something.
but its my role to be a smartass
just like its your role to be a whiney bitch.


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> couldn't have said it any better myself.
thats because yer an ignorant imbecile

right?


touch 4 then pound for spanish

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definitely not you misha
i meant the proverbial "you all" and the quotational "yourselves"


 Who the fuck is "you all" and "yourselves"?



  "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote: 



> >We
> > don't have to let the world know that our choice is
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> Yes, joe's right, we can feel better about ourselves just 
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> the whiney trance-haters.

and we can all laugh at how seriously you all take yourselves.

putting out another candle

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> the anti-trance faction on this list is, for the most part, extremely
> bored people at work who, for the most part, don't especially 
> care about
> trance one way or another.  However, they blow this way out 
> of proportion
> for comic effect - people tend to get extremely defensive about their
> music, imagining an attack on the music they prefer to be an 
> attack on the
> very core of their identity!  mw-trance-haters, far from being the
> "close-minded bigots" that they're often portrayed as, are 
> nothing more
> than harmless pranksters, with something people often refer 
> to as "a sense
> of humor!"
> 
> morethanonelove,
> 
> chris

wow i like this hardass chris, you should write a book or something!
but now that the trancefuckers realize the secret will they still bitch?


only time will tell

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> possible raver: *giggle* *blink* *blink*
if they do the giggle blink blink they are from ohio wheras blink blink
giggle ravers are from further west

i should know, i got an email telling me im oldschool

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actually, i'm not all that close-minded. 

i ike jungle, i like house, i like hardcore, hip-hop,
trip-hop, dub, dnb and acid. i also like ambient.
sometimes i like rock-n-roll, sometimes i even like
opera, classical, hindu chants, and bluegrass music. i
rarely like muzak, and even becky will tell you that
unfortunately i know the words to most country songs.
on sundays i like ice cream, every day of the week i
like to smoke, and during alternate months i find
myself interested in a plethora of religions and
spiritual traditions. sometimes, i like sex,
sometimes, i like hard sex, and every once in a while
i like raw painful bondage sex with toys. the point
is, i'm pretty open-minded.

and i still don't like trance. 9.99 times out of 9, it
makes me want to ralph all over the nearest candy ass.

got a problem with that?
pixie


 
--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> couldn't have said it any better myself.
> 
> onelove.
> Noble
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dynamic Groove
> [mailto:events@dynamicgroove.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [mw] trance sucks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To whomever was wondering about
> why there seems to be such an anti-trance
> presence here on MW-Raves...
> 
> Don't worry, there are plenty of people
> here who like Trance.  This list has 500+
> members last I remember.  I'm sure a lot
> of us like Trance just fine.
> 
> The ones who always bitch about Trance
> are just the more vocal, closed minded complainers
> (for the most part).  Most of us here who do like
> Trance
> keep to ourselves on the subject because we know
> that
> musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions. 
> We
> don't have to let the world know that our choice is
> "superior" to feel better about ourselves.
> 
> 	- Joe


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> But generally, I like a little of everything.  It's people's attitudes
> towards the music that turns me off more than the music itself.

Generally, i like a little of everything.
its people's veneral diseases that turns me off more than the ass itself.

oh....wait

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> i concede.
she tips the knight!

no kinky thoughts please

> micah rules my shit.
and i play in it.
i build sand castles..


oh wonderful amy! you had CORN today!
WOOPIEEE!


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a few years ago when i got into this rave thing... i had a hard time
sometimes distinguishing trance, house, techno, hardcore, etc. it was all
just music to me. I could go to a party, without knowing who was playing and
just enjoy the music. define a genre and a song will come along and break
that mold. seems like certain forces want to divide and conquer every scene
... i.e. sXe is better than punk, or ska, or metal or vice versa. you can
see the same thing going on in "our" scene (whatever that means) these days.
does anyone else feel the same way.

onelove.
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>     /me kills micah by farting towards his candle.
> 
>     How you like my flatulence-style? 
I TOLD YOU PEOPLE THAT LIKE TRANCE LIKE SHIT/POOP!


MORE PROOF!

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anyone down for an philisophical debate on why drum and bass is quite
possibly the greatest form of music ever?  aaron.           



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Subject: RE: [mw] krty's trance ROKKS!

> oh wonderful amy! you had CORN today!
> WOOPIEEE!

actually, that was thursday. i'm amazed there's still
some up there.

quit putting your hands in your mouth, micah! you
don't know where that shit's been!!


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> anyone down for an philisophical debate on why drum and bass is quite
> possibly the greatest form of music ever?  aaron.           

okay.

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"my ass."

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 I'd think that by now a sense of humore would entail coming up with something somewhat original :)

  chrise@pubnix.org wrote: 


> couldn't have said it any better myself.

I COULD, THOUGH!

the anti-trance faction on this list is, for the most part, extremely
bored people at work who, for the most part, don't especially care about
trance one way or another. However, they blow this way out of proportion
for comic effect - people tend to get extremely defensive about their
music, imagining an attack on the music they prefer to be an attack on the
very core of their identity! mw-trance-haters, far from being the
"close-minded bigots" that they're often portrayed as, are nothing more
than harmless pranksters, with something people often refer to as "a sense
of humor!"

morethanonelove,

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> keep to ourselves on the subject because we know that
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> don't have to let the world know that our choice is
> "superior" to feel better about ourselves.
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<P> I'd think that by now a sense of humore would entail coming up with something somewhat original :)<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR><BR>&gt; couldn't have said it any better myself.<BR><BR>I COULD, THOUGH!<BR><BR>the anti-trance faction on this list is, for the most part, extremely<BR>bored people at work who, for the most part, don't especially care about<BR>trance one way or another. However, they blow this way out of proportion<BR>for comic effect - people tend to get extremely defensive about their<BR>music, imagining an attack on the music they prefer to be an attack on the<BR>very core of their identity! mw-trance-haters, far from being the<BR>"close-minded bigots" that they're often portrayed as, are nothing more<BR>than harmless pranksters, with something people often refer to as "a sense<BR>of humor!"<BR><BR>morethanonelove,<BR><BR>chris<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; onelove.<BR>&gt; Noble<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: Dynamic Groove [mailto:events@dynamicgroove.com]<BR>&gt; Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:36 AM<BR>&gt; To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org<BR>&gt; Subject: [mw] trance sucks.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; To whomever was wondering about<BR>&gt; why there seems to be such an anti-trance<BR>&gt; presence here on MW-Raves...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Don't worry, there are plenty of people<BR>&gt; here who like Trance. This list has 500+<BR>&gt; members last I remember. I'm sure a lot<BR>&gt; of us like Trance just fine.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The ones who always bitch about Trance<BR>&gt; are just the more vocal, closed minded complainers<BR>&gt; (for the most part). Most of us here who do like Trance<BR>&gt; keep to ourselves on the subject because we know that<BR>&gt; musical tastes are just that, tastes - or opinions. We<BR>&gt; don't have to let the world know that our choice is<BR>&gt; "superior" to feel better about ourselves.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; - Joe<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Joe Carroll - Madison, WI - Dynamic Groove Entertainment<BR>&gt; events@dynamicgroove.com - www.dynamicgroove.com<BR>&gt; Light Fantastik - lasers@dynamicgroove.com<BR>&gt; AOL Instant Messenger: LightFantastik<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Send a text message directly to my phone ! - use this link:<BR>&gt; http://digitaledge.acswireless.com/index.html?city=MAD<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt; To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org<BR>&gt; For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt; To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org<BR>&gt; For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org<BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org<BR>For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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well, that would be nice ..EXCEPT philosophy is just opinion and you can't
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onelove.
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anyone down for an philisophical debate on why drum and bass is quite
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> actually, that was thursday. i'm amazed there's still
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well, i can reach nooks and crannies even you didn't know existed!

> quit putting your hands in your mouth, micah! you
> don't know where that shit's been!!
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man, that's so true...."back in the day", when one, one meaning all of us
probably, didn't know anything about it all, you just heard the music and didn't
know there was a difference and didn't care.  i wish i still didn't
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shhhhhhhhh!!!!!

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > But generally, I like a little of everything.  It's people's attitudes
> > towards the music that turns me off more than the music itself.
> 
> Generally, i like a little of everything.
> its people's veneral diseases that turns me off more than the ass itself.
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shutup commie!!
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>  Who the fuck is "you all" and "yourselves"?

"you all" is how we northerners say "y'all".  and "yourselves" refers in 
this case to everyone else.

alice, who the fuck is alice,
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> "my ass."

what does all of this have to do with your ass??
can you fart an amen out of it?
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> I'd think that by now a sense of humore would entail coming up with
something somewhat original :)
see? we agree!
 
just like we all think a musical genre should entail coming up with
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>anyone down for an philisophical debate on why drum and bass is quite
>possibly the greatest form of music ever?  aaron.

that'd be about as philiosophical as a debate concerning which was the 
better gallagher.

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at least avoid the diet coke. Aspartame (nutra-sweet) gave Michael J. Fox
parkinson's disease.
anything for a profit...

onelove.
Noble

coca cola in excess tends to make one selfish, avoid this
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> 
>  I'd think that by now a sense of humore would entail coming up with something somewhat original :)

obviously you know nothing about humor.



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 Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't even forms of music :)

  "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote: 
> I'd think that by now a sense of humore would entail coming up with
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<P> Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't even forms of music :)<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; I'd think that by now a sense of humore would entail coming up with<BR>something somewhat original :)<BR>see? we agree!<BR><BR>just like we all think a musical genre should entail coming up with<BR>something somewhat original!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org<BR>For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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> > "my ass."
> 
> what does all of this have to do with your ass??
> can you fart an amen out of it?
> or maybe hot pants?

im not up to amen's yet, but i can chop up apache breaks better than any
fucking steinberg product

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> 
>  Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't even forms of music :)


see? you're laughing right now at a comment you just made that was in no
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it's funny!


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 Who said i was laughing

  chrise@pubnix.org wrote: 
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> Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't even forms of music :)


see? you're laughing right now at a comment you just made that was in no
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<P>&nbsp;Who said i was laughing<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; <BR>&gt; Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't even forms of music :)<BR><BR><BR>see? you're laughing right now at a comment you just made that was in no<BR>way even remotely original!<BR><BR>it's funny!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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At 01:36 PM 1/8/01 -0600, Dynamic Groove wrote:
>Don't worry, there are plenty of people
>here who like Trance.  This list has 500+
>members last I remember.  I'm sure a lot
>of us like Trance just fine.

I also like my trance ruff not just fine.

>The ones who always bitch about Trance
>are just the more vocal, closed minded complainers

Actually at least most of the ones I've talked to arent that closeminded...
they just have a propensity for bitching and complaining and trance is a
nice target.

>don't have to let the world know that our choice is
>"superior" to feel better about ourselves.

but our choice is superior. (oh I feel just fine about myself w/o saying
that).





tad



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> man, that's so true...."back in the day", when one, one 
> meaning all of us
> probably, didn't know anything about it all, you just heard 
> the music and didn't
> know there was a difference and didn't care.  i wish i still didn't
> know.....'twas more fun that way.
ahhhh i'd disagree a bit, or broaden this maybe.

i like things for completely different reasons now and then.

when it was just what it was, its nice, but when you know more about it you
appreciate things for different reasons

like good martial arts or good anything that requires skill

the REALLY good make it look so simple, that people think they aren't doing
aything, and often people not as good
have a lot of struggle, but how you interpret that is based on your own
experience

i went to a ballet once with an ex-ballet-dancer and she liked things for
completely different reasons than i did, and we disliked
things for different reasons too

she liked things that required a lot of effort or skill that looked simple
to me and i missed them, and i could enjoy things that
 weren't technically perfect more than her because of my ignorance

ignorance is bliss, but i like knowing WHY im happy

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> shhhhhhhhh!!!!!
well?

its true innit?

> > > But generally, I like a little of everything.  It's 
> people's attitudes
> > > towards the music that turns me off more than the music itself.
> > 
> > Generally, i like a little of everything.
> > its people's veneral diseases that turns me off more than 
> the ass itself.
> > 
> > oh....wait

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> Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't
even forms of music :)
thats for sure!
but those styles have changed a lot over the years, like from the beginning
to now, their current stagnant state
trance has always sucked
 
poor trance
poor trance's pants
 
for a good time call...

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Im not sure what you mean when you say that you cant take me serious? If =
you are reffering to my first post, I was hoping that noone would take =
it serious, I was trying to make it look as stupid as I could(WiTH oUt =
GoiNg LIkE thIs). Im also wondering how you can take anything on a list =
serious, first you have limited emotion and alot of communication is =
though physical apperance and emotion. Second, its all mono tone, you =
can add bold text and a smile, but what the hell do they really mean. In =
order to have good communication you need more than words. I would =
imagine that most of everything on this list is misscommunication. Every =
thing that gets read is influnced in each persons own way. So you can =
never really know whats going on. Im not trying to defend myself and im =
not trying to say that everyone should understand, its more the oppisit, =
im saying that most people arnt going to understand. If I knew you =
personaly I would have a better understanding of what you were saying, =
maybe sometime well meet and well beable to talk and I will understand =
you more, but for now im not sure what you mean. Im also wondering how =
what I SPIN {I dont play records ;)} has anything to do with this, but =
you are correct I do spin HH.=20

peaz,
Kyle
Im a really bad speller, sorry

Kernel Scurry
icq#91438706
Invasion Productions
515.830.1893
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: michael knight=20
  To: kyle flanagan ; MIDWEST RAVES=20
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [mw] Invasion Lamis


  oh YEAH but you play *happy hardcore* - JUST HOW IN THE HELL AM I =
SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY SIR?!#@$^%@$#^

  mk


    me me me, oh wait i dont have pay for them I get one free!! And dont =
for get that people will not only sell anything they will also post =
anything!!
    =20
    =20
    Kyle(this is the first time that Ive posted)

  =
________________________________________________________________________ =

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  michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org=20
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uhhh misha
its in the from field
his name is chris ege, you've talked to him before
 
it will all be better in the morning
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikhail Khaimov [mailto:dj_tsar@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:30 PM
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 Who said i was laughing



  chrise@pubnix.org wrote: 



> 
> Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't
even forms of music :)


see? you're laughing right now at a comment you just made that was in no
way even remotely original!

it's funny!




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> at least avoid the diet coke. Aspartame (nutra-sweet) gave 
> Michael J. Fox
> parkinson's disease.
> anything for a profit...
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> at least avoid the diet coke. Aspartame (nutra-sweet) gave 
> Michael J. Fox
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>  Who the fuck is "you all" and "yourselves"?

its the "people in quotes"
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> ya wanna see it?
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> ()


well...
i'll trade you 10 minutes with my harem for 10 minutes with your third nut


deal?

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> man, that's so true...."back in the day", when one, one meaning all of us
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> know there was a difference and didn't care.  i wish i still didn't
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 hey at least trance is consistent in its suckiness :)

  "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote: 
> Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't
even forms of music :)
thats for sure!
but those styles have changed a lot over the years, like from the beginning
to now, their current stagnant state
trance has always sucked

poor trance
poor trance's pants

for a good time call...

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<P>&nbsp;hey at least trance is consistent in its suckiness :)<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">&gt; Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't<BR>even forms of music :)<BR>thats for sure!<BR>but those styles have changed a lot over the years, like from the beginning<BR>to now, their current stagnant state<BR>trance has always sucked<BR><BR>poor trance<BR>poor trance's pants<BR><BR>for a good time call...<BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>To unsubscribe, e-mail: mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org<BR>For additional commands, e-mail: mw-raves-help@hyperreal.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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>i went to a ballet once with an ex-ballet-dancer and she liked things for
>completely different reasons than i did, and we disliked
>things for different reasons too

yeah but the important part is DID YOU BANG HER AFTERWARDS?!

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> man, that's so true...."back in the day", when one, one 
> meaning all of us
> probably, didn't know anything about it all, you just heard 
> the music and didn't
> know there was a difference and didn't care.  i wish i still didn't
> know.....'twas more fun that way.
ahhhh i'd disagree a bit, or broaden this maybe.

i like things for completely different reasons now and then.

when it was just what it was, its nice, but when you know more about it you
appreciate things for different reasons

like good martial arts or good anything that requires skill

the REALLY good make it look so simple, that people think they aren't doing
aything, and often people not as good
have a lot of struggle, but how you interpret that is based on your own
experience

i went to a ballet once with an ex-ballet-dancer and she liked things for
completely different reasons than i did, and we disliked
things for different reasons too

she liked things that required a lot of effort or skill that looked simple
to me and i missed them, and i could enjoy things that
 weren't technically perfect more than her because of my ignorance

ignorance is bliss, but i like knowing WHY im happy

micah,

 is it possible for you to enjoy things as if it were the first time, while
at the same time having enough knowledge to know the details? sort of like
living everyday with the wonder as if it were your first, when in reality
knowing it could be your last.

just a thought...

onelove.
Noble

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>If I knew you personaly I would have a better understanding of what you 
>were saying, maybe sometime well meet and well beable to talk and I will 
>understand you more, but for now im not sure what you mean.

i'm deaf-mute and confined to a wheelchair, and i'll thank you NOT to make 
fun of me like that!!!!  :(

>  Im also wondering how what I SPIN {I dont play records ;)} has anything 
> to do with this, but you are correct I do spin HH.

because everyone knows those guys are full of crap!

mk
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>If I knew
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understand you more, but for now im not sure what you
mean.</font></blockquote><br>
i'm deaf-mute and confined to a wheelchair, and i'll thank you NOT to
make fun of me like that!!!!&nbsp; :(<br>
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 Can I just tell you that the word "smartass" consists of 2 elements: smart and ass. So far I've only seen evidence of the latter part of the word =)

  "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote: 
uhhh misha
its in the from field
his name is chris ege, you've talked to him before

it will all be better in the morning


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Who said i was laughing



chrise@pubnix.org wrote: 



> 
> Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't
even forms of music :)


see? you're laughing right now at a comment you just made that was in no
way even remotely original!

it's funny!




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<P> Can I just tell you that the word "smartass" consists of 2 elements: smart and ass. So far I've only seen evidence of the latter part of the word =)<BR>
<P>&nbsp; <B><I>"Topping, Micah" &lt;micah.topping@eds.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">uhhh misha<BR>its in the from field<BR>his name is chris ege, you've talked to him before<BR><BR>it will all be better in the morning<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Mikhail Khaimov [mailto:dj_tsar@yahoo.com]<BR>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:30 PM<BR>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org<BR>Subject: RE: [mw] trance sucks.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Who said i was laughing<BR><BR><BR><BR>chrise@pubnix.org wrote: <BR><BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Exactly...so according to that logic techno and jungle and hardcore aren't<BR>even forms of music :)<BR><BR><BR>see? you're laughing right now at a comment you just made that was in no<BR>way even remotely original!<BR><BR>it's funny!<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<BR><BR>Entice, Level 9.0<BR>http://djtsar.com<BR>http://www.entice.nu<BR>859.288.4599 <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_____ <BR><BR>Do You Yahoo!?<BR>Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos<BR>online!<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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eh, you can just have it... i'll drink 10 more liters tonight and grow
another.

its sorta like having sea monkeys, well, except my testicles live in my
pants instead of that little plastic container that the cat drank out of.

-t

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> ya wanna see it?
> 
> ()


well...
i'll trade you 10 minutes with my harem for 10 minutes with your third nut

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OMG!

LOL

mk

At 03:43 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>hello new kyd .. heehee...  email me if u want .. where u from???
><3
>Bretard

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> >i went to a ballet once with an ex-ballet-dancer and she 
> liked things for
> >completely different reasons than i did, and we disliked
> >things for different reasons too
> 
> yeah but the important part is DID YOU BANG HER AFTERWARDS?!

male response: "what you think i'd go to the ballet if i wasn't getting laid
afterwards?"
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yes you can do whatever you want misha, but i can't hear you over the
drumrolls and the epic buildups

Can I just tell you that the word "smartass" consists of 2 elements: smart
and ass. So far I've only seen evidence of the latter part of the word =)



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Subject: [mw] HAWTIN FEB 3RD 2001

Liquid Groove
Saturday February 3rd 2001
Atlanta GA


Extended set by...

RICHIE HAWTIN (Decks, EFX and 909) -
(Plus 8 - M_nus - Platikman)


JOHN ACQUAVIVA
(Definitive Recordings)

with additional support from

JEFF JOSEPH
(atlanta)


INFORMATION:
18 and up welcome with ID
doors open at 11:00 pm
MASSIVE SOUNDSYSTEM
Intelligent lighting


TICKETS:
$20 In advance
$22 on the door


TICKET OUTLETS:
Buy tickets only from these stores
($1 surcharge at some locations)
Satellite 404-880-9746
Rewind 404-827-9463
Candy (Athens, GA) 706-549-0191
Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
Alices White Rabbit: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-918-0961
Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
Manifest: (Greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
Smoke: (Gainesville, FL) - 352-379-7670
Vinyl Fever (Tallahassee, FL) --850-580-3480


VENUE:
DEKALB-ATLANTA CENTER
This is a brand new state of the art venue. It consists of one massive room
with huge ceilings, fully soundproofed, and the perfect venue to experience
Richie Hawtin.

DIRECTIONS:

>From the North: Go 85 south and get off at the Clairmont Rd Exit. At the
first light (Clairmont rd) go right. Go approx 1 mile to Dresden. Make a
right on Dresden, venue is 100 feet on right (big blue building)

>From the South: Go 85 North and get off at the Clairmont rd exit. At the
first light (clairmont rd) go left. Go approx 1 mile to Dresden. Make a
right on Dresden, venue is 100 feet on right (big blue building)

>From Tennesse area: Go 75 south towards atlanta. Go I-285 east. Then go I-85
south and then follow the directions from the north.

>From the West: Go 20 East into downtown atlanta. Go I-75/85 north. When 75
and 85 split head i-85 North and then follow the directions from the south.

>From the East: Go I-20 West into downtown atlanta. Go I75/85 north. When 75
and 85 split head I-85 North and then follow the directions from the south.




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it'd probably help us understand you if you let us give you a backrub.

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If I knew you personaly I would have a better understanding of what you were
saying, maybe sometime well meet and well beable to talk and I will
understand you more, but for now im not sure what you mean.

i'm deaf-mute and confined to a wheelchair, and i'll thank you NOT to make
fun of me like that!!!!  :(


 Im also wondering how what I SPIN {I dont play records ;)} has anything to
do with this, but you are correct I do spin HH. 

because everyone knows those guys are full of crap!

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Nothing fills an in-box like a good old MW-RavesTranceArgument=81

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> eh, you can just have it... i'll drink 10 more liters tonight and grow
> another.
> 
> its sorta like having sea monkeys, well, except my testicles 
> live in my
> pants instead of that little plastic container that the cat 
> drank out of.
even better
and you can have the guys from my harem
 they bore me too easily

they, though, are kept in a small plastic barrel.

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	QUICK NO ONE BE STUPID!
IM LEAVING AND DONT WANT A FEW MINUTES OF PIECE SO I CAN ESCAPE!!



hustle

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I AM DIGNIFYING THAT WITH A NON-RESPONSE.

THANK YOU

> my mouth/pixies ass...ahhh lines grey and blur all
> the time.


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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 02:21:05PM -0600, michael knight wrote:
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> better gallagher.

You mean Noel or the weird dude with the hammer and the watermelons?

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Please show some restraint and stop beating a dead horse.

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    From the man that brought us trancesucks.com.

Matt Murphy
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> Please show some restraint and stop beating a dead horse.



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you still didn't answer my question...
oh..
yeah.. 
did i mention i am everyone's hero?


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Subject: [mw] Re: [madfam] Requiem for a Dream


Yes Yes, a Definite must. Not for the weak stomached although you should 
probably see it if you have a weak stomach.  It'll do ya good.

Also, if ya get grossed easily, ya might not want to eat before and might 
not want to plan on eating afterwords.

Me?  I smoked a whole bunch of cigerettes and drank beers after I saw it.

cheers,

adrian

>From: "Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com>
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>To: "madfam@egroups.com" <madfam@egroups.com>, "midwest-trance@egroups.com" 
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>http://www.nitrateonline.com/2000/rrequiem.html
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>heart, head and soul...but you HAVE to see it.
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<< There are excellent tracks and dj's .. that are
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people=lame ass wanna-be dj's 
 
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Hello All,

More trans-Atlantic collaborations from 
the Nashville, TN  DnB crew 
and East London (UK) crew...

A new tune from B Plus and Embee 
called "Self Destruction" has been added 
to the tunes page [dubplate section]
of the M.A.D. BASS site.

Click here to listen directly:
http://www.madbass.com/tunes/selfdestruction.ram

Or go to www.madbass.com
and select "Tunes".

As always - constructive criticism is welcomed 
and appreciated.

Bookings and inquiries for M.A.D. BASS artists are
being handled by Moonwalk Management out of Detroit.

Click here for more info:
www.madbass.com/moonwalk


Thanks,

Mike Kenney --> MK2
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>You mean Noel or the weird dude with the hammer and the watermelons?

yes!!!!  geez of course.

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i thought a bunch of messages that say "yeah huh" and "nuh uh" would sorta
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but what do i know,
-t

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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:08:45PM -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:
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fucktrance.com, thank you very much...

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Maaaaaaan-I just want someone to help me oooooouuuuuutttttt.. does anyone 
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If Misha and Micah were divas, this would be much more interesting.

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i wish diana ross was still on the list.

this message is in a k-hole,
-t

ps - i'll bet that misha could pull micah's hair, that'd be close...

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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:13:50PM -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
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> You mean Noel or the weird dude with the hammer and the watermelons?

"MELON CRAZY" IS GALLAGHER'S BEST WORK.


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Thanks for evidence to support my hypothesis. I hope that in time I will =
beable to show that im not one of "those guys thats full of crap"

Peaz,
Kyle


Kernel Scurry
icq#91438706
Invasion Productions
515.830.1893
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: michael knight=20
  To: kyle flanagan ; MIDWEST RAVES=20
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [mw] Invasion Lamis




    If I knew you personaly I would have a better understanding of what =
you were saying, maybe sometime well meet and well beable to talk and I =
will understand you more, but for now im not sure what you mean.

  i'm deaf-mute and confined to a wheelchair, and i'll thank you NOT to =
make fun of me like that!!!!  :(


     Im also wondering how what I SPIN {I dont play records ;)} has =
anything to do with this, but you are correct I do spin HH.=20

  because everyone knows those guys are full of crap!

  mk
  =
________________________________________________________________________ =

  michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org=20
  michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for evidence to support my =
hypothesis. I=20
hope that in time I will beable to show that im not one of "those guys =
thats=20
full of crap"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peaz,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kyle</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kernel =
Scurry<BR>icq#91438706<BR>Invasion=20
Productions<BR>515.830.1893</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:michael@happy.hardcorps.org"=20
  title=3Dmichael@happy.hardcorps.org>michael knight</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:kernelscurry@hotmail.com" =
title=3Dkernelscurry@hotmail.com>kyle=20
  flanagan</A> ; <A href=3D"mailto:mw-raves@hyperreal.org"=20
  title=3Dmw-raves@hyperreal.org>MIDWEST RAVES</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, 2001 =
2:40=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [mw] Invasion =
Lamis</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
size=3D2>If I knew=20
    you personaly I would have a better understanding of what you were =
saying,=20
    maybe sometime well meet and well beable to talk and I will =
understand you=20
    more, but for now im not sure what you =
mean.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i'm=20
  deaf-mute and confined to a wheelchair, and i'll thank you NOT to make =
fun of=20
  me like that!!!!&nbsp; :(<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dcite cite type=3D"cite"><FONT face=3Darial =
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    also wondering how what I SPIN {I dont play records ;)} has anything =
to do=20
    with this, but you are correct I do spin HH. </FONT><FONT=20
  face=3Darial></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>because everyone knows those guys =
are full=20
  of=20
  =
crap!<BR><BR>mk<BR>______________________________________________________=
__________________=20
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  color=3D#0000ff><U>www.americancheese.org</A></U></FONT>=20
  <BR>michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org <BR>ICQ =
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 Don't go there girlfriend! *snap snap snap*

  atomly <atomly@atomly.com> wrote: 
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:13:50PM -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
> i thought a bunch of messages that say "yeah huh" and "nuh uh" would sorta
> be like a chorus to a mowtown song.

If Misha and Micah were divas, this would be much more interesting.

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> http://formen.ign.com/news/29567.html

    Kinda reminds me of those little digital "button" keychain things
they're using for some security and thin client login systems now. Cool
stuff.

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Subject: Re: [mw] Michigan Raves

Sorry I was going to hit you back but I figured a bunch of other people 
would be all over this one... If you're from northern Michigan, your best 
bet is going to be a Grand Rapids, Lansing or kalamazoo party, depending on 
where exactly you're at (I forgot). I know for a fact that there aren't any 
K-Zoo parties coming up, but i'm not sure about Lansing or Grand Rapids. In 
Lansing Capital city technolgies is a good crew and friends of mine from 
when I lived and went to school up there. they throw quality events and 
bring in some dope national-level talent to that little town. Their events 
are usually very reasonably priced as well. It's been a year or so, so I 
forgotten the exact URL to their site. i'll try to remember. As for Grand 
Rapids, the parties are usually MUCh smaller scale (200 to 500) with local 
DJs that are not  naitonally known or as high profile (or as original, quite 
frankly). If you're up for it, I would say head down to Detroit, although 
the scene here is on quite shaky ground as of late because of the police 
situation. I'm at work right now so I can't do a lot of surfing to get you 
some urls but hit me back ltr and I'll get you some good Detroit links. 
Haven't you looked around hyperreal? (duh.)
Peace.

P.S. I think you are a cop
>
>Maaaaaaan-I just want someone to help me oooooouuuuuutttttt.. does anyone
>know a link or anything I could go to that would say where raves were goin 
>on
>in Michigan?

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> http://formen.ign.com/news/29567.html

ok, i tried really hard not to send this post, but i failed.

THIS IS NOT FOR MEN. I THINK IT IS COOL TOO AND I HAVE BOOBS AND A TWAT.

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>Thanks for evidence to support my hypothesis. I hope that in time I will 
>beable to show that im not one of "those guys thats full of crap"

haha.  wow.

mk

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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:32:33PM -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:
>     Kinda reminds me of those little digital "button" keychain things
> they're using for some security and thin client login systems now. Cool
> stuff.

We had a bunch of those sitting around at our old company...   Those
JavaRings and shit...  Too bad they (or any smart card tech) never
really took off... 

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In a message dated 1/8/01 4:34:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, jes@pubnix.org 
writes:

<<  I HAVE BOOBS AND A TWAT. >>

Congratualtions....

meep

 - Soniq

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> Congratualtions....

THANKS I GREW THEM MYSELF.











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me too.  boobs and twats are what make the world turn.  godbless, sister, 
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Heyxza :: we are looking to network with lansing MI area DJs, producers,
ravers, artists,  etc.

we are starting up a collective to throw creative free small scale
events around our area and wanna have you join us for some phun!

http://ironfeather.com/lansing/

If U already made contact stay chooned, we shall get a meeting going
next few weeks

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NO WAY!

PROVE IT!

     -BILL

CAPLOCK IS FUCKIN AWESOME!!!!

>===== Original Message From jes <jes@pubnix.org> =====
>> http://formen.ign.com/news/29567.html
>
>ok, i tried really hard not to send this post, but i failed.
>
>THIS IS NOT FOR MEN. I THINK IT IS COOL TOO AND I HAVE BOOBS AND A TWAT.
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 05:00:03PM -0500, Steven wrote:
> http://ironfeather.com/lansing/

Big up the Iron Feather Journal.

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> NO WAY!
> PROVE IT!

like you haven't seen the boobs before.
i'm pretty sure all of konfused has.
i think the boobs have been proven. 

> CAPLOCK IS FUCKIN AWESOME!!!!

DUHW!!!






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Subject: [mw] This Wednesday  -- AcTiV8 -- Tag Night

Denny's Creature Productions and DNA Labs bring you an all-tag-team event in 
Dayton.
Wednesday, January 10th, 20001.....

R E A C T (subsonik - Cincinnati)  v. C A L L A B R E E Z E (project 7 - 
Dayton)  -- One of Cincinnati's most respected promoters and DJ's takes on 
one of Dayton's prodigal sons in an extended set of bangin techno.

A L I   O B V I O U S  v.  M I K E   D O N O V A N (bounce theory - Dayton)  
--   Get your groove on with the men behind some of the best parties in 
Dayton.

D I G I T A L   P S Y K O S I S (cia/dcp/dna labs - Cincinnati)  v.  D J    S 
L U C K --  Activ8's resident pimp takes on a Cincinnati rising star.  Sluck 
n' Fuck ya'll.  Or something like that.

G R E E N   T A R A (bb gunn/dna labs/dcp - Dayton)  v.  J U D A S (clockwork 
- Dayton) -- Dayton's very own "dweeb of the decks" matches 1200's with the 
man who killed Christ in an all-out hardcore warfare for the safety of the 
world.  Or at least a beer.

D J   S O N I Q   S T Y L Z (dcp/wdja/substance music usa - Dayton)  v. D J   
D 8 A (groovereactor - Dayton)  --  Last time these two hooked up, they 
almost blew the speakers off.  Who knows what's gonna come out of the crates 
this time.

E-Flyer:  http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp/eflyers/tag_night.html

Activ8 is located at Sirens Niteclub in Dayton
1130  E. Central Ave.           Exit 44 from I-75
Info:  Cincinnati - 513.588.0038    Dayton - 937.866.6699
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp
onebaddj@aol.com

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
Denny's Creature Productions - Activ8
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>Maaaaaaan-I just want someone to help me oooooouuuuuutttttt.. does anyone
>know a link or anything I could go to that would say where raves were goin on
>in Michigan?

i heard all the ravers in michigan had meningitis!

oh well.  http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/08/24/rave.meningitis/

mk
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just want someone to help me oooooouuuuuutttttt.. does anyone <br>
know a link or anything I could go to that would say where raves were
goin on <br>
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i heard all the ravers in michigan had meningitis!<br>
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In a message dated 01/08/2001 11:51:34, tony@sebion.com writes:

<< will it get me laid?


-t >>

chicks dig confidence, thas all you need

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"chicks dig confidence"  its true guys, i cant even beGIN to tell you all how 
i learned that lesson the hardway.  specially over the past 2 weeks, god.  
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<< Thanks for evidence to support my hypothesis. I hope that in time I will 
beable to show that im not one of "those guys thats full of crap" >>

Playing spiritural leader so soon are we kernel?

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MixedUp Presents

Iced Out (The Global Bass Makeup Party)

This Thursday January 11th

Feat.

3-Time World DMC Champion

DJ CRAZE
(Allies, United DJ Mix Series, Miami)

HEATHER HEART
(Sonic Groove, NYC)

DJ DARA
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JOSH ISAAC
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DOOMER
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MC JAKES
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$20 at the door for the first 300 people $25 after

LIMELIGHT NYC
47 West 20th St and 6th Ave

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Doors open at 10PM

212-802-9268

Global Bass is on vacation for Jan.  Iced Out is a special one-time winter 
event for every one who otherwise would have went to Global bass; but we will 
be returning Feb 8th and each month thereafter so check Iced Out this 
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LOOK OUT FOR GLOBAL BASS: RELAUNCH 2001 FEAT. THE ATM TOUR & More

Happy New Year, I look forward to seeing everyone out this Thursday for Craze 
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little do you know...
next stop brainchips   -------->> http://www.digitalangel.net/

i'm only getting a brainchip if it's open source!

onelove.
Noble

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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 03:32:33PM -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:
>     Kinda reminds me of those little digital "button" keychain things
> they're using for some security and thin client login systems now. Cool
> stuff.

We had a bunch of those sitting around at our old company...   Those
JavaRings and shit...  Too bad they (or any smart card tech) never
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If ya want flyers sent to ya then hit me back
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Superstars of Love's 7 year Valentine Anniversary
 
LOVETRONIC  
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featuring Live in concert:
 
Detroit Grand Pu Bahs - Jive Electro Detroit
 
Ming & FS on four turntables - New York City

DJ Assault - Mo' Wax - Detroit's Ghettotech Master

Tomamerica AKA Tommie Sunshine - Chicago's madman
 
All Time High - Live freak show from Uranus
 
> Hypo Vs Astrix - Live Techno PA
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> 
> http://www.superstarsoflove.com
 
Lovetronic is all about our love and dedication to
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As with all of our events, expect an unparalled
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Star-crossed lovers slow dance all night long in the
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performance artist TJ Richter the human comic book.
 
> Brain Farm visuals!
> Raverporn kissing booth!  
> Massage Therapy by Touchy Feely!
> Come fall in love-  this party will get you laid!
> call # 314-994-1114 for FREE PHONE SEX
> 
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> Stay tuned for more info!


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Subject: [mw] [RaggAdoLL@aol.com: [PKU] this music..]

I thought this was pertinent to the trance discussion.

:P

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Subject: [PKU] this music..

this music is not about candy bracelets
this music is an intense neural implant

this music is not about fashion
this music is your own choice

this music is not about watching fly dance moves
this music is tribal collective rhythm

this music is not drug induced love and hugs
this music is group transcendence

this music is not for dj as rock star
this music is for dj as techno shaman

this music is not for teeny bopper parties
this music is for temporary autonomous zones

this music is not for reckless hedonism
this music is for informed choices for mind expansion

this music is not just a passing rock and roll trend
this music is a connection to a long history of tribal drum culture

this music is not just for fun
this music is serious societal revolution

this music is not a cheap sexual thrill
this music is a divine heart womb throb conception

this music is not for static sitting on the floor
this music is for letting the earth know you empathize by pounding your feet

this music is not about looking good
this music is about letting your guard down

this music is not for the radio repetition
this music is for you, now, and maybe never again    

CHERISH THE MUSIC.  IT MAY BE THE ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT.

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->>punk rock is the reason.
-->>                        ^
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-->you're not punk, and i'm telling everyone.
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-->mk

you're a hardcore dj, and i'm telling everyone.

playa haters in dis house,
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> -----> Thanks for coming to all who did.  I had a lot of fun and hope
> you all did
> too.  :)

I must say that I had a bloody good time.  The highlight of the evening was
for sure Doormouse's MCing over the top of Franjo's and Atomly's
sets......BLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDCCCCCCCCLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT!!!
!!!  The Michael Jackson remixes by Atomly were some "high powered stunner
black evil kenival shit" as well.  Top that off by seeing about 5 separate
sets of titties and 2 pussies and you've got a formula for something peachy.
To say nothing of the whole Nick Christ getting way out of control and doing
things that his momma would excommunicate him for...  heh heh.  Meeting a
lot of people that I had only formerly only known from the list and irc was
pretty cool as well, most everyone was friendly and in a good mood, and I
hope to see all y'all again soon.

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On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 GooBlink13@aol.com wrote:

-->Maaaaaaan-I just want someone to help me oooooouuuuuutttttt.. does anyone 
-->know a link or anything I could go to that would say where raves were goin on 
-->in Michigan?

http://www.planetraver.com/upcoming/

http://detrave.net

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You are a cruel, cruel man.

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-->On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 05:00:03PM -0500, Steven wrote:
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i try.  and in addition...




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Hey, I stopped wearin the pocket protector.

Oh wait, you meant him.

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is it

a) Doctorin' The Tardis by the Timelords
b) Y'all Ready for This by 2 Unlimited
c) Who Let the Dogs Out by the Baha Men

discuss, preferably in the form of 300 emails.


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> THIS IS NOT FOR MEN. I THINK IT IS COOL TOO AND I
> HAVE BOOBS AND A TWAT.

EXCUSE ME!!

SHE SAID "TWAT."

THANK YOU!

POOPCHUTE!
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 08:10:24PM -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> a) Doctorin' The Tardis by the Timelords
> b) Y'all Ready for This by 2 Unlimited
> c) Who Let the Dogs Out by the Baha Men

B is most "played out" but A has been played the most.  We've been over
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Subject: [mw] Art Returns

Rejoice.

http://www.artbell.com/artreturns.html

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Subject: Re: [mw] most played out techno jam at sporting events


>c) Who Let the Dogs Out by the Baha Men

there has been a grand travesty of justice when this tripe has replaced 
gary glitter's "rock and roll" as the #1 stadium jam.  i'm gonna start a 
movement to put gary glitter back in the arena rocker throne that is so 
rightfully his.  maybe we need a techno-rave remix of said tune.

m HEEEEEYYYYYYY! k

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Subject: Re: [mw] Art Returns

i find that the most talented personalities in the medium of radio are 
usually given the coveted overnight slots.

i'll just watch the x-files instead,
m yawn k

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>Rejoice.
>
>http://www.artbell.com/artreturns.html
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In a message dated 1/8/01 9:01:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< maybe we need a techno-rave remix of said tune >>

Problem is, it would end up being done by David Morales or something....

meep

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What's up :) So here I was ... sitting all by lonesome and trying to come up with a new name for my CD when another yet ingenious idea struck me. Why not ask fellow list members what I should name my CD. To make the long story short, I did the same in 2000 for my tape Whispers which was a great name in my opinion. Now again, I am asking for your help. So here's the information:

- new CD will be released around middle/end of February
- it will be a full length CD featuring the darker side of deep and tribal trance mixed on 3 tables
- the winner will be announced and praised for his/her amazing creativity as well as presented with my tapes Future Primitive, Whispers, my new CD and even a personalized CD that I'll make just for that one person :)
- the cover design will be created based on the name 

Now remember a couple things :)

- when sending me an e-mail please put 'NAME' in the subject
- the name has to somewhat go along with the content of the CD so please don't be surprised if I asked you why you picked it :)



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<P>What's up :) So here I&nbsp;was ... sitting all by lonesome and trying to come up with a new name for my CD when another yet ingenious idea struck me. Why not ask fellow list members what I should name my CD. To make the long story short, I did the same in 2000 for my tape Whispers which was a great name in my opinion. Now again, I am asking for your help. So here's the information:</P>
<P>- new CD will be released around middle/end of February<BR>- it will be a full length CD featuring the darker side of deep and tribal trance mixed on 3 tables<BR>- the winner will be announced and praised for his/her amazing creativity as well as presented with my tapes Future Primitive, Whispers, my new CD and even a personalized CD that I'll make just for that one person :)<BR>- the cover design will be created based on the name </P>
<P>Now remember a couple things :)</P>
<P>- when sending me an e-mail please put&nbsp;'NAME' in the subject<BR>- the name has to somewhat go along with the content of the CD so please don't be surprised if I asked you why you picked it :)<BR></P><BR><BR>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar<br><br>Entice, Level 9.0<br>http://djtsar.com<br>http://www.entice.nu<br>859.288.4599<p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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you should call it "hot buttered trance", and on the cover you can have on 
just a gold chain with no shirt, and you'll have to shave your head.

mk hayes

At 06:11 PM 1/8/01 -0800, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:

>What's up :) So here I was ... sitting all by lonesome and trying to come 
>up with a new name for my CD when another yet ingenious idea struck me. 
>Why not ask fellow list members what I should name my CD. To make the long 
>story short, I did the same in 2000 for my tape Whispers which was a great 
>name in my opinion. Now again, I am asking for your help. So here's the 
>information:
>
>- new CD will be released around middle/end of February
>- it will be a full length CD featuring the darker side of deep and tribal 
>trance mixed on 3 tables
>- the winner will be announced and praised for his/her amazing creativity 
>as well as presented with my tapes Future Primitive, Whispers, my new CD 
>and even a personalized CD that I'll make just for that one person :)
>- the cover design will be created based on the name
>
>Now remember a couple things :)
>
>- when sending me an e-mail please put 'NAME' in the subject
>- the name has to somewhat go along with the content of the CD so please 
>don't be surprised if I asked you why you picked it :)
>
>
>Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar
>
>Entice, Level 9.0
>http://djtsar.com
>http://www.entice.nu
>859.288.4599
>
>
>
>Do You Yahoo!?
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Subject: [mw] temp addy change

you can reach at my hotmail account untill echobass.com is back up and 
running (jan 28th we'll premier 4.0 it'll actually be cool)
-m

oh yah and go to this


CRUSH GROOVE
01.27.01
kansas city

starring,

ODI -jungle New York

Odi is a turntablist's wet dream. flippin rekkids and jugglin' beats
this guy is all over the place. strait from Brooklyn New York, Odi
represents with no nonsense jump up and hard drum and bass. Odi puts
on a show like no other and thrives off the crowd's energy.

Aaron Ochoa -house Chicago

Strait from Paul Johnson's Push-Pac crew this chi-town jacker runs with the 
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Barbarella -trance San Fransisco

You saw her at One Summer Night now she's back to show yall how its
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now she's back to do it to ya. (it's going to be her birthday too so
wish her a good one:D)

.COM -booty Omaha, NE

The origional funk masta. .COM returns to KC once again to lay down
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NITRO -*special set* funky-disco-breaks, Kansas City

The daddy of the mid-west DJ Nitro is back once again (the renegade
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You know him you love him, DJ Booth is the man. droppin' "deez nuts"
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decks you know its time to party.

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Louisville's best kept secret: Amalgamm represents with no-love agressive 
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Malcolm -Psychodelic Tech house, Kansas City

Voted KC's best up-and-coming DJ, Malcolm unleashes the furry. Strap 
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Rob Lee -Trance/Acid House, Kansas City

One of the fastest rising up-and-comers in KC, Rob Lee drops the hard trance
and acid house action like no other.

***CRUSH GROOVE SUNRISE LOUNGE W/ special guest DJ ROLAND***
Arguably one of the best trance dj's in the midwest and definatly the
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KEEP IT REAL AS ALWAYS THIS IS ABOUT THE VIBE. Come early for the first ever 
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Subject: Re: [mw] Invasion Lamis

I think that Aaron and I should get to rule together :)

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> In a message dated 01/08/2001 15:23:12, kernelscurry@hotmail.com writes:
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> << Thanks for evidence to support my hypothesis. I hope that in time I
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> Playing spiritural leader so soon are we kernel?
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Subject: Re: [mw] most played out techno jam at sporting events

On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:59:49PM -0600, michael knight wrote:
> there has been a grand travesty of justice when this tripe has replaced 
> gary glitter's "rock and roll" as the #1 stadium jam.  i'm gonna start a 
> movement to put gary glitter back in the arena rocker throne that is so 
> rightfully his.  maybe we need a techno-rave remix of said tune.

Have you not heard Doctorin the Tardis?  It's essentially "Rock and Roll"
with "Doctor Who" sung as the melody...  It was written in '88 during
the acid house thing in London and became a huge hit.  They even have a
Gary Glitter remix of it on the 12".

Think Gary Glitter + Sweet + Dr. Who theme song.

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Subject: [mw] Re: [madfam] Requiem for a Dream


*intense addiction*
Brilliant film.

heather

>From: "Adrian ......ate21...MOM.......pyftw&m" <pyft@hotmail.com>
>To: events@dynamicgroove.com, madfam@egroups.com, 
>midwest-trance@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [madfam] Requiem for a Dream
>Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 21:10:31 -0000
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>
>Yes Yes, a Definite must. Not for the weak stomached although you should
>probably see it if you have a weak stomach.  It'll do ya good.
>
>Also, if ya get grossed easily, ya might not want to eat before and might
>not want to plan on eating afterwords.
>
>Me?  I smoked a whole bunch of cigerettes and drank beers after I saw it.
>
>cheers,
>
>adrian
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> >From: "Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com>
> >Reply-To: "Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com>
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> ><midwest-trance@egroups.com>, "mw-raves@hyperreal.org"
> ><mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: [madfam] Requiem for a Dream
> >Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 03:28:03 -0600
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> >
> >If you haven't seen it yet, go see Requiem for a Dream as soon as 
>possible.
> >But be prepared, it will probably be the most disturbing film you've ever
> >seen.
> >A brilliant story, with brilliant acting, brilliantly directed by Darren
> >Aronofsky
> >(the director of "Pi").  I don't even know how to start describing this
> >film,
> >so check out the website and the reviews.  Seriously a must see...
> >
> >Official Website - incredible, one of the best sites I've EVER seen:
> >www.requiemforadream.com
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> >Standard review:
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> >Detailed review - warning - gives away pretty much the entire movie:
> >http://www.nitrateonline.com/2000/rrequiem.html
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> >heart, head and soul...but you HAVE to see it.
> >
> >	- Joe
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Subject: Re:  [mw] It's that time of the year againame

hey,

I think you should call it 'Silicon Avatar' because thats the name of the 
Star Trek episode I am currently watching.  Everyone knows that Star Trek 
and trance music have approximately equal magnitudes along the "coolness" 
dimension (+/- .3 Deans), so any other name would be  imprecise at best.  
Also, when I win, I do not require that you send me any of said trance 
music.  I have quite enough.

a1a,
adam

>From: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
>To: dj_tsar@yahoo.com
>Subject: [mw] It's that time of the year again
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:11:42 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>What's up :) So here I was ... sitting all by lonesome and trying to come 
>up with a new name for my CD when another yet ingenious idea struck me. Why 
>not ask fellow list members what I should name my CD. To make the long 
>story short, I did the same in 2000 for my tape Whispers which was a great 
>name in my opinion. Now again, I am asking for your help. So here's the 
>information:
>
>- new CD will be released around middle/end of February
>- it will be a full length CD featuring the darker side of deep and tribal 
>trance mixed on 3 tables
>- the winner will be announced and praised for his/her amazing creativity 
>as well as presented with my tapes Future Primitive, Whispers, my new CD 
>and even a personalized CD that I'll make just for that one person :)
>- the cover design will be created based on the name
>
>Now remember a couple things :)
>
>- when sending me an e-mail please put 'NAME' in the subject
>- the name has to somewhat go along with the content of the CD so please 
>don't be surprised if I asked you why you picked it :)

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Subject: Re: [mw] most played out techno jam at sporting events



>From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
>
>On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:59:49PM -0600, michael knight wrote:
> > there has been a grand travesty of justice when this tripe has replaced
> > gary glitter's "rock and roll" as the #1 stadium jam.  i'm gonna start a
> > movement to put gary glitter back in the arena rocker throne that is so
> > rightfully his.  maybe we need a techno-rave remix of said tune.
>
>Have you not heard Doctorin the Tardis?  It's essentially "Rock and Roll"
>with "Doctor Who" sung as the melody...  It was written in '88 during
>the acid house thing in London and became a huge hit.  They even have a
>Gary Glitter remix of it on the 12".
>
>Think Gary Glitter + Sweet + Dr. Who theme song.


I do not know this Gary Glitter you all talk about but, you know, I really 
like that Doctor Who theme song.  The show itself I do not appreciate 
though.  It scared me as a kid because it was so different from American 
television (acting, video quality, stories, etc. all too British I guess).  
But I really do like that theme song.  Very electronic.  I would like to 
hear a techno-rave-dance party mix of that song.  Ah, here it comes...

my name is,
Adam
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Subject: Re: [mw] NKOTB




>From: BRETARDSaSTAR@aol.com
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] NKOTB
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:58:14 EST
>
>ok were reall nice people we sound like dying goths... ok..... this lovely
>welcome can get lots of people lots of new friends yah......

Hi bRetard,

Are English knot a requireds courses to graduate from.  Middle school any 
moe?


Ada,

PS: When is aggresive social punishment a justifiable means to eliminating 
behaviors, which, if allowed to flourish, would lead to societies which 
could not function?

PPS: Do postscripts make any sense in our age of electronic media?
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Noble Long
>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 12:03 PM
>To: 'OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com'
>Subject: RE: [mw] trance sucks.
>
>
>well, that would be nice ..EXCEPT philosophy is just opinion and you can't
>really debate opinion can you?
>

Well I will debate anything I damn well please.

but not tonight,
adam



>onelove.
>Noble
>
>"Believe those who are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it."

or, equivalently

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Subject: Re: [mw] Art Returns

Yes, it's a great day for us readers of alt.fan.art-bell
Did you hear the line-up?  Hoagland with Major Ed Dames, and one of the
other familiar people.  Also, less commercial time as well.  Gonna be a
great time.  Sigal is done.

On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, atomly wrote:

> Rejoice.
> 
> http://www.artbell.com/artreturns.html
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one could look at history in two ways...

either it is the dull recording of every unmemorable event...

...or it is the occurrence of an event unparalleled at that time.  An event
in which creates new guide lines, new references for all other events there
after.  A historical event is one that burns itself and its purity onto the
memories of all involved, and burns with regret in the minds of the persons
not involved...

An historical event; an event to remember and to cherish...

...for life

27 : jan : 2001

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

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Orbital did a remix of Dr. Who.


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Subject: Re: [mw] Art Returns

Anybody know what station it's on in Minneapolis?


Tom

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Hi all,

Yep, it's time for the latest skylab2000 news. Been ages, eh? Missed it? I 
hope so. :)

Since it's actually been almost 6 months since the last update, I'm gonna 
slip some bio info in here for the new folks. Always happy to have new 
folks in the scene! Welcome.

If you are familiar with skylab2000, just scroll down a bit to get the 
latest info.

  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BIO:

Since 1994, skylab2000 has released tracks and performed live at clubs, raves
and parties throughout the US, Canada, Europe and Asia.

Years of touring have earned skylab2000 respect in the underground and a 
national
reputation for incredible live shows.

A high energy performance is very important to skylab2000. No standing around,
looking glum, tweaking knobs. The sound - techno, trance, breaks, acid and
hard beats - is a unique hybrid designed to keep a party in high gear.

Most weekends you'll find skylab2000 out playing an event. Recent shows have
included New York, Austin, Boulder, Los Angeles and so many more.
International shows have included massive events in diverse places such as
Canada, Hong Kong, and Istanbul, Turkey.

In addition to being a popular live act, skylab2000 has numerous releases on
vinyl and CD. The seminal domestic 12 inch release, "Auburn", includes remixes
by Gearwhore (Astralwerks) and the first remix by trance favorite Taylor of
"Anomaly" (Calling Your Name) fame. Multiple remixes of "Auburn", including
versions by top UK producers Sol Brothers and Tomislav, were released by the
UK labels Music Unites/Brainiak and JDJ Productions. There was a huge reaction
to this early recording, including a prestigious listing on Pete Tong's
"Essential Selection" on London's BBC Radio 1.

skylab2000 tracks now appear on mix CDs by such well known DJ's as Thomas
Michael, DJ Grover, Dj Psycho-Bitch (Crobar), John Kelly, Taylor, Sol
Brothers/Andrew Galea (UK) and Superstar DJ Keoki, and mix tapes by many
others.

A recent series of internet-only releases on the giant MP3.com have garnered
three listing in the overall top ten, plus number one slots in most of the
electronic music categories on the site. In July 2000, the skylab2000 track
"Rollergirl" was the NUMBER ONE most downloaded track *overall* on the site.
Just days later, "Night Train" achieved the number two slot!

skylab2000 tracks have been number one in techno, down tempo, hard house,
old-skool and the jungle categories. Over 150,000 folks downloaded or listened
to skylab2000 tracks on mp3.com in July alone!!

Numerous skylab2000 releases are planned for 2001, as well a continuing series
of shows around the US, and across the globe.

Stay tuned!

  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Back to the news.

Welcome to 2001. It's a Space Odyssey and skylab2000 is proud to contribute 
to that. Did you see 2001 when you were kids? I did, and I am so pleased we 
have made it this far. In a few minutes I'm off in my Rotopod to get some 
food pills - pizza sounds good. The weather looked good on the cyberphone, 
so we're all set for transo-beaming. Join me?

On to the real news.

First I need to thank everyone for 2000. What a year. So many great events 
- so many great people. So many of you contributed to a really good year. 
Thanks very much! If we met you at a show or you just had a good time while 
I performed, thanks very much.

Our agent, Stephanie at Til Dawn, deserves special thanks as well. 
(http://www.tildawn.com)

As usual, we've got a heavy summer schedule. Yea, that's ages away so lets 
all make it through the winter together. If you are in Chicago or New York 
or Philadelphia or a few others, I'll see you in the next few weeks. All 
confirmed show details are on our web site, so I'm ready to warm up the 
cold places.

http://skylab2000.com/u01.htm

The second news is about a new release. A CD this time, and I expect it to 
be ready in the next few weeks. It will be available at all shows so please 
ask about it soon. The title is "onehundredpercent", so watch for it.

If you are looking for current vinyl, have a look at our website under 
"merchandise". Still got some. We even have t-shirts and sweatshirts now! 
Pretty cool stuff.

Lastly, if you are an event promotor, please contact me, as we are planning 
our schedule for the year.

As usual, please check out our web site for masses more info at

http://skylab2000.com

Massive thanks for reading all this! More news in a few months!!

peace

    |_e_/~  Dennis Barton <db@skylab2000.com>
      )     skylab2000
    ~\/\    Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
       /    http://skylab2000.com

    |_e_/   Dennis Barton <db@skylab2000.com>
      )     skylab2000
    ~\/\    Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles
       /    http://skylab2000.com



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Subject: Re: [mw] Art Returns

KSTP 1500 so the site says.  This is a 50,000 watt station meaning you
should get great reception.

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote:

> Anybody know what station it's on in Minneapolis?
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> atomly wrote:
> 
> > Rejoice.
> >
> > http://www.artbell.com/artreturns.html
> >
> > --
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> >
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Subject: [mw] anyone out there?


everyone-

i just joined this list and i could really use your help.

i'm an electronic artist from texas who would like to bring my show to the
midwest. any tips on venues, promoters who might be interested in a live
drum and bass show complete with puppets, glow-in-the-dark IVs and
projected visuals would be SO appreciated. thanks in advance.

i have been down with the austin, texas scene for some time, just took a
little break to have major surgery. still, out of all that time alone and
all the weird drugs they pumped into me, a few tracks came out of the
experience that became the first release on my label, starbelly records.

it's called the "unexpectedly delayed EP" by grant stevens, and it's
featured on MP3.com at

http://www.mp3.com/grantstevensstar

i would really love some feedback on my music from the city with more cool
D&B coming from it than anywhere else on the planet. texas has mad respect
for east coast electronic - d&b, trance, illbient and of course, house.

BTW, i did a remix for atomikk pulse that went to #14 on the tech step
charts. it's called enter mr dj (seven & sneech mix) and you can catch that
at

http://www.mp3.com/atomikk_pulse

Texas can represent like no other on MP3.com ... big ups to 303infinity ...
maybe everyone can out there can share some love for another texas artist
trying to make it happen. I would love to hear from any midwestern MP3.com
artists out there as well ... so much talent swirled in so much trash ...
help me find ya.

i have already been contacted by Evil Twin productions from another list,
and that impresses the hell out of me.  the midwest has the best DJs in the
country without a doubt - maybe some of you might like what i do.

thanks-
grant stevens
starbelly records
http://www.mp3.com/grantstevensstar

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Subject: Re: [mw] NKOTB

omg lol !  haha omg.

lol.

lol,
omg

mk

At 11:47 PM 1/8/01 -0500, Adam Meadows wrote:



>>From: BRETARDSaSTAR@aol.com
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: [mw] NKOTB
>>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:58:14 EST
>>
>>ok were reall nice people we sound like dying goths... ok..... this lovely
>>welcome can get lots of people lots of new friends yah......
>
>Hi bRetard,
>
>Are English knot a requireds courses to graduate from.  Middle school any moe?
>
>
>Ada,
>
>PS: When is aggresive social punishment a justifiable means to eliminating 
>behaviors, which, if allowed to flourish, would lead to societies which 
>could not function?
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>Orbital did a remix of Dr. Who.

they used to have the old dr. who pinball machine at clintonville coin 
laundry in columbus.  i became quite good at it after awhile.

time to add the fabric softener,
mk

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> If Misha and Micah were divas, this would be much more interesting.

what EXACTLY are you trying to say atomly?

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> I AM DIGNIFYING THAT WITH A NON-RESPONSE.
and 
I AM NOT DIGNIFYING THAT NON-RESPONSE WITH A NON-REPLY.

ie, im bringin it back down to my level

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Oh come on now, not all trance fans hate themselves. For instance, I hate
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j - symmetric
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> > then why the f*ck do you like trance?
> because he hates himself!
>
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not all trance fans hate themselves. For instance, I hate
everyone else.


oh my god....have any of you slept?!?!?! this is still an issue?



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yeah, some of you might think this is like beating a dead horse.

others of us worry that the pieces of the horse might turn into that liquid
metal stuff and slowly flow back together and start to chase after you and
John Connor again.

or maybe I've got that mixed up.

-t

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not all trance fans hate themselves. For instance, I hate
everyone else.


oh my god....have any of you slept?!?!?! this is still an issue?


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> yeah, some of you might think this is like beating a dead horse.
i like horses.
they are pretty and fast.
you shouldn't beat horses because i like them.
but if they are dead, they probably don't feel it.
beating dead horses is okay, but make sure the horse is dead first.
beating live horses is not okay.

neigh

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>neigh

have you ever ridden a horse?

mk

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Subject: [mw] trance sucks?


i think i was more entertained than any of the anti-trance people, by getting
the attention i did from just one little post.
thank you...you can ignore me now.



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neigh.



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Subject: RE: [mw] trance sucks?

> >neigh
> 
> have you ever ridden a horse?

probably not, but I'm sure he'd like to "rode your pony" if you take my
meaning!

wink wink,

chris


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> >neigh
> 
> have you ever ridden a horse?
yes.
i even had my horsemanship merit badge before i was kicked out of boy
scouts.

totin' chip

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> probably not, but I'm sure he'd like to "rode your pony" if 
> you take my
> meaning!
werkit
but no really
i don't rode anyone's pony..

not without a saddle

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(make up your own joke)

love,
-t

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i even had my horsemanship merit badge before i was kicked out of boy
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> (make up your own joke)
don't even suggest i have sex with horses...







that damned tail always gets in the way

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heh, actually, the joke i was thinking of did have to do with sex, but even
more about you getting kicked out of the boy scouts...

they're kinda selective about their membership ya know...

-t

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> (make up your own joke)
don't even suggest i have sex with horses...


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> heh, actually, the joke i was thinking of did have to do with 
> sex, but even
> more about you getting kicked out of the boy scouts...
> 
> they're kinda selective about their membership ya know...
tony...i know i know you keep looking for some evidence or proof that i'll
follow you up those stairs some day.
but yer reaching pretty far back.

it ain't easy bein sleazy

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> i don't rode anyone's pony..

if you wanna ride,
don't ride white horse.
white horse!








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nah, but its fun to tease ya about :)

/me wants to race a pinewood derby car.

-t

-----Original Message-----
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> heh, actually, the joke i was thinking of did have to do with 
> sex, but even
> more about you getting kicked out of the boy scouts...
> 
> they're kinda selective about their membership ya know...
tony...i know i know you keep looking for some evidence or proof that i'll
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Well folks,

I know i haven't been a member long but i don't check my mail enough to be 
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> nah, but its fun to tease ya about :)
oh its fun for me too baby.

and WHAT DO YOU MEAN NAH!???

AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!?
i'll even dress up as a diva for ya...atomly's idea...

> /me wants to race a pinewood derby car.
cheater

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let me just state that micah would do just fine.

i'll endorse him sexually with no actual knowledge of his horizontal style.

-t

-----Original Message-----
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> nah, but its fun to tease ya about :)
oh its fun for me too baby.

and WHAT DO YOU MEAN NAH!???

AM I NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU!?
i'll even dress up as a diva for ya...atomly's idea...

> /me wants to race a pinewood derby car.
cheater

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At 10:07 AM -0600 1/9/01, Mad Hatter wrote:

>I know i haven't been a member long but i don't check my mail enough 
>to be on this list.  I've been getting like over 200 mails in less 
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>tension from a few on this list and although there are the fun-lovin 
>goof crew here, those dickheads that are puttin off the tension 
>vibes are ruining it.  So,  I'M OUT!!


Sorry, someone should have warned you.  Welcome and goodbye, from 
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>/me wants to race a pinewood derby car.

why didn't they have THIS when i was losing with my hunk o 
crap?!?  http://win-edge.com/PinewoodDerby.shtml

and maybe we should go HERE and order everything neccessary for an official 
mw-raves pinewood 
derby!!!  http://www.scoutstuff.org/menus/cubscouts/pinewood.html

did they have a SPACE DERBY for any of you guys?!  our troop/pack/whatever 
didn't even have the regatta, let alone a SPACE DERBY - 
http://www.scoutstuff.org/menus/cubscouts/space.html

mk

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15826.html

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> let me just state that micah would do just fine.
> 
> i'll endorse him sexually with no actual knowledge of his 
> horizontal style.

THANKS!
but don't limit me to horizontal.
this is really gonna help my obviously failing self-esteem!

rumble fish

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> Well folks,
> 
> I know i haven't been a member long but i don't check my mail 
> enough to be 
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> those dickheads 
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> 
> L8eRz..............Don't swim for 30 min after snappin into a Slim Jim
> 
> 
>               The Mad hatter
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> i'm gonna start a 
> movement to put gary glitter back in the arena
> rocker throne that is so 
> rightfully his.  maybe we need a techno-rave remix
> of said tune.

i'll be more than happy to lend my flag-twirling
abilities...i've still got a couple of field commander
friends and a cheerleader somewhere too...

wait, i have no friends.

come to think of it, a hardcore remix of "rock and
roll" would be fairly interesting.

digging out the band tapes, roomates beware ;]
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> PPS: Do postscripts make any sense in our age of
> electronic media?

Well, they'd better, because it is written that It Has
To Make Sense. Any questions, direct them either to
myself or the nearest Reality Keeper.

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> oh my god....have any of you slept?!?!?! this is
> still an issue?

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where's the hardcore?

> list and although there are the fun-lovin goof crew
> here, those dickheads 
> that are puttin off the tension vibes are ruining
> it.  So,  I'M OUT!!
> 
> L8eRz..............Don't swim for 30 min after
> snappin into a Slim Jim
> 
> 
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SUCKS..........
(especially krty's trance)



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what's this "KRTY" people keep throwing around?  Some sort of trance radio
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Some sort of trance radio
station?

WHAT A KICKASS IDEA....



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/me snickers uncontrollably



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i ran into some of the folks from massive at metamorphosis 3 in columbus,=
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in november.  they said that they were pouring all of their effort into t=
he
website, but the mag will be back soon.

peace,
catnap



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>
>Hey,
>
>I have been out of the loop for a while now, so its probably common =

>knowledge here but, whatever happened to Massive Magazine?  I loved that=
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>rag...

Reorganizing.  But it will be back.  When is another question...

	- Joe


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> i'm an electronic artist from texas who would like
> to bring my show to the
> midwest. any tips on venues, promoters who might be
> interested in a live
> drum and bass show complete with puppets,
> glow-in-the-dark IVs and
> projected visuals would be SO appreciated. thanks in
> advance.

okay. hang on there, cowboy. couple of questions:

1) live with instruments? or live pa?

2) puppets? glow in the dark iv's? may i ask, what is
a glow in the dark iv, and why is it's inclusion in
your live... interesting?

pixie


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is that the party i was at w/ massive?  del the funky homosapien was on the
lineup, and the "highlight" of the night was the heavy kid in the cool
skinny puppy tshirt needing medical attention... 

i mighta been one of the people you were talking to... i was in the
"ministry" black long sleeve t.

unless its a different party, and then, well, i dunno

aliens ate my baby - thank god,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]


i ran into some of the folks from massive at metamorphosis 3 in columbus,
back
in november.  they said that they were pouring all of their effort into the
website, but the mag will be back soon.

peace,
catnap


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Subject: [mw] "It's All About House Music"

Ron "It's All About House Music" Carroll . . . . Info!!!

2000 has so far proved to be the pinnacle of Ron Carroll's career. He=20
effortlessly wrote and performed the European mega hit 'Lucky Star" with=20
French group Superfunk, which subsequently went on the sell over 2 Million=20
copies and make Ron a full fledged star. He spent the summer touring Europe,=
=20
performing and DJ'ing to massive crowds in Ibiza, Spain, France, and London=20
to name a few. His most recent release on Subliminal "It's All About House=20
Music" where he appears as the RC Groove Project has quickly become an=20
anthem, rocking dance floors while blowing 20,000 copies of the single off=20
the shelves . . . His eagerly anticipated album "Live In Me" is due out in=20
March and all eyes are on Ron! He currently holds down a Thursday night=20
residency with partner Mazi=E2=80=A6 Deep at Mad Bar in his hometown of Chic=
ago.

Ron's career began back in 1984 as a DJ, where he gained widespread notoriet=
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Tonight, January 9, 2001:

Gravitybass

Featuring DJ's:

Jeremiah >  Distorted Grooves
Obi-Wan
Cameo


As always, Gravitybass is held at Top Cats:
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Subject: [mw] thursdays @ Kustom || Exotica! this Sunday

adrenaline, KON, headpuncher, johny vegas,
 david goldberg, & dj johnny chaos presents

espoinage : thursdays
 grand opening january 11th

djs: jimmie page & chris tomasone

$4 finlanda specials all night

kustom
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MUST BE 21 WITH VALID ID @ KUSTOM!

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This Sunday! January 14th, 2001

*** EXOTICA! ***

LIVE DJ SETS FROM
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HOSTED BY
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@ Studio 21, 2121 E. New York St, Aurora, IL
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Subject: [mw] this week near cincinnati?

anyone know of anything good going on within driving distance of cincy this
week?

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Subject: [mw] Ben Kenobi this sunday!!!!!

What's up PPl.  Daddy here with some good news....

I have Ben Kenobi coming to the Gathering this sunday(the 14th).  He is
making a special apperence.  You have to come and give the man a good time.
Show him how we do it in Sand-town!!!!!

Spread the news if you would Please!!!!

web sight...
www.hot-summer-nights.com/bosco's

goto sunday nights and check out who's coming up this month.

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Subject: Re: [mw] this week near cincinnati?

or anything in cincy???


planetsite@hotmail.com writes:

<< anyone know of anything good going on within driving distance of cincy this
 week? >>


Gabe
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Subject: [mw] location...

to make history, you need to have a location...

a venue in some cases...

a venue can be looked at in many ways...

One way is to look for a venue that has all the amenities and tools needed,
you just put some artists in there, nothing else.  With this, life is
simple, and were all easily entertained*, not all that great for history
however...

Or you can do it differently...

You can find any venue, and make it different, *vastly different*.  With the
right goals in mind, and with the right ambition, you can make any venue, no
matter how previously used, a new and utterly meaningful and magical
place...

Then, the audience is no longer simply entertained, now they are totally
involved...

...it is theirs.

27 : jan : 2001

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

search for "djdarwin" on napster
www.sphereproductions.com
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Subject: [mw] nrr:interesting

There is a theory that states if anyone is to discover the meaning of the 
universe it will instantly disappear and be replace with some that much more 
glorious and amazing.

there is another theory that states this has already happened

Gabe
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i heard that if you pop rocks with soda you'll tottally die.

mk

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i heard that if you pop rocks with soda you'll totally die.

mk

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>
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i need to save the address book for outlook express.  when i export it =
and it saves, where does
it export it to?  i am lost.  help me.

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Subject: Re: [mw] this week near cincinnati?

there's Gravitybass @ Topcats tonight.

Jeremiah, Obi-Wan, and Cameo are gonna be wrecking shop up there
tonight.

http://www.zeropointrecords.com for more info

Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:

> or anything in cincy???
>
> planetsite@hotmail.com writes:
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> << anyone know of anything good going on within driving distance of cincy this
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Where ever you put it... try searching for "*.pst" ...that may be the way
you saved it (there are a few options)
 
hope this helps..
 
onelove.
Noble

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i need to save the address book for outlook express.  when i export it and
it saves, where does
it export it to?  i am lost.  help me.
 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=240171200-10012001>Where 
ever you put it... try searching for "*.pst" ...that may be the way you saved it 
(there are a few options)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN 
class=240171200-10012001></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=240171200-10012001>hope 
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hey..wasn't Ian suppossed to spin tonite?????

Inquiring minds wanna know...
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nah.. both Ian and I are playing next week

Izzitec@aol.com wrote:

> hey..wasn't Ian suppossed to spin tonite?????
>
> Inquiring minds wanna know...
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as in..

 djianb?

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Oooh Ahhh.. a two-in-one pleasure!
Don't know if i'm gonna be able to handle it! ;)
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At 09:07 AM 1/9/01 -0800, pixie wrote:
>where's the hardcore?

Who cares?


>
>> list and although there are the fun-lovin goof crew
>> here, those dickheads 
>> that are puttin off the tension vibes are ruining
>> it.  So,  I'M OUT!!
>> 
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>> snappin into a Slim Jim
>> 
>> 
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Subject: [mw] This weekend, columbus/cincy/dayton??? Re: [mw] this week near
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Um how about this week? as in the week we are currently in... I curious
about anything worthwile happening myself either saturday or sunday (this
monday is MLK day right?)  So anything special happening in any clubs
sunday night?? In columbus or cincy (or even dayton?)



At 05:07 PM 1/9/01 EST, Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:
>or anything in cincy???
>
>
>planetsite@hotmail.com writes:
>
><< anyone know of anything good going on within driving distance of cincy
this
> week? >>
>
>
>Gabe
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>www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
>Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: [mw] This weekend, columbus/cincy/dayton??? Re: [mw] this
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At 06:41 PM 1/9/01 -0600, you wrote:
>Um how about this week? as in the week we are currently in... I curious
>about anything worthwile happening myself either saturday or sunday (this
>monday is MLK day right?)  So anything special happening in any clubs
>sunday night?? In columbus or cincy (or even dayton?)

i heard that boo williams was going to open a set with an MLK speech in 
honour of the holiday.  typically, he only does this on days ending in "y".

mk

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From mw-raves-return-13593-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 00:01:29 2001
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Subject: [mw] New d 'n' b Track..finally!!

What's up people.  I finally finished up the d'n'b track that I have been 
talking about for a lil while.  It's called "Myoptic Camouflage".  So now 
it's up and running.  I'm pretty impressed with it but of course i want to 
see what you think.  It's a little on the dark tip too for you guys that 
like the wicked sick shit.  Let me know what you think aight? (write to 
djswitch@mail.com )

http://www.mp3.com/cause_n_effect

"Myoptic Camouflage"

And I still have some CD's if you guys want one.

Dig(i)tal
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Thanks

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Subject: [mw] Re: [nyc-raves] Fwd: RAY--UR AN IDIOT

It's totally untrue... It was re-posted to show how lies can affect the 
list(s). Please notice that this was fowarded to all list as a lesson. Ray


>From: "jennie edmondson" <jennie176@hotmail.com>
>To: kharma7rjm@hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [nyc-raves] Fwd: RAY--UR AN IDIOT
>Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:00:22 -0700
>
>hey..... if you dont mind telling me what club is this so i can be sure to 
>avoid it in the future? ive missed this whole argument- but does this guy 
>even still HAVE a club or sitll throw parties after being such a dick? 
>sorry to be involved in something im totally not- but i dont want to go to 
>his club and i dont know which one it is!! peace and love-
>
>jennie
>

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Subject: Re: [mw] This weekend, columbus/cincy/dayton??? Re: [mw] this
  week near cincinnati?

Well, there's Clockwork Sunday V.2 in Columbus on Sunday, with the 
H-Foundation headlining at the Fabric Lounge (the lineup is house-heavy).
Then there's ?Milky Rave? which is supposed to be at Annie's on Sunday here 
in Cincy, but nothing has been announced lineup wise about it that I know 
of.  Maybe try calling Clubhead on that one.

On Saturday there's a party in Louisville, called Return to the Underground 
if you're willing to drive there.
Also, theres that groove spot thing going on at the mad frog on Saturday in 
Cincy, with Matt Freeman, Manifest and others.

I've got info on all of them on my web site: 
http://www.ravergeek.com/calendar/january01.html

Heather(Glowworm)

At 06:41 PM 1/9/2001 -0600, Tad wrote:

>Um how about this week? as in the week we are currently in... I curious
>about anything worthwile happening myself either saturday or sunday (this
>monday is MLK day right?)  So anything special happening in any clubs
>sunday night?? In columbus or cincy (or even dayton?)
>
>
>
>At 05:07 PM 1/9/01 EST, Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:
> >or anything in cincy???
> >
> >
> >planetsite@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> ><< anyone know of anything good going on within driving distance of cincy
>this
> > week? >>
> >
> >
> >Gabe
> >Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam
> >www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
> >Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: [mw] this week near cincinnati?

i saw tara making out with johnny.




>From: green tara <gt303@juno.com>
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>as in..
>
>  djianb?
>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: [nyc-raves] Fwd: RAY--UR AN IDIOT

well, i've certainly learned one thing: if you're
going to forward an e-mail such as this to a list in
an attempt to "teach a lesson" (i noticed, btw) then
you might want to include, oh, say, a POINT.

you sure taught me, mister.
pixie

/snip snivling crap about a lesson and some chick
who doesn't wanna go to some guy's club. why? we'll
never know.


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Subject: [mw] Live Broadcast! - www.Harmonynet.net - (9--1am) CST

HARMONY PRODUCTIONS -- LIVE DJ Sessions!
Broadcast Originates from the HARMONY STUDIOS in
Birmingham, Alabama -- USA

Wed. Jan. 10, 2001
and every Wednesday

---- New lineup weekly -----

listen 24/7 for regular broadcasting  (just click on Listen Live!)
@ WWW.HARMONYNET.NET

 
Starting @ 9:00 pm till 1:00am CST. ....... and sometimes later!

9--10pm
GEOFF ALLEN -- harmony, Birmingham, AL (progressive

10---11pm
JOSH PATRICK - huntsville, AL

11---12 midnight 
LYDIA PRIM -- queen of the circuit party scene, Birmingham, AL 

12-1am
REDBONE -- Anniston, AL (breaks)

1---2am
Tenkae - live from Austin, TX

2--3am
Kenada -- live from Tampa, FL (breaks

3-4am
VITO TALAMO -- fresh in from Delaware (hard house) also live from Tampa
******************************************************************************

Thanks for listening ... peace on
Tricia---------------->HARMONY  
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Subject: [mw] Deep Thursday's

Hello from our world . . . we have all been quite busy in the New Year and 
are happy that you all turned out for our first Thursday at Mad Bar . . . 
Just wanted to drop a line and let you know what was up and coming this month 
. . .

DEEP Thursday's with Ron Carroll and Mazi

Jan. 11th - Ron and Mazi deliver the goods as usual

Jan. 18th - Ron Carroll and special guest ALEXANDER EAST  . . . Alexander has 
recently signed to Afterhours and has a project coming out on Mazi's newest 
imprint Simple Soul . .  We were lucky to come across this amazing talent . . 
. A producer/vocalist/writer/DJ and musician (14 instruments to boot)  . . . 
Trainspotter's be on the lookout! This evening he will be spinning and 
singing  . . . kinda like the male version of Colette!

Jan. 25th - Ron and Mazi will be in France this week so we are bringing in 
guest dj's Rick Garcia -  Zodiac/Riviera and Nathan Larsen - Gourmet/Simple 
Soul/Cyclo 

Feb. 1st - Mazi's back in town along side rotating guest Rick Garcia

Mad Bar
1640 N. Damen
$5 Cover
21+ 10pm-2am
www.gojetsetdj.com
www.madbar.com


DEEP Thursday's are dedicated to all house sounds that are DEEP . . . From 
the spiritual cry of a diva to the warm underground sounds of a sexy tech 
house groove . . . DJ's Ron Carroll and Mazi seamlessly incorporate each 
others style into one deep house music vibe . . .
Veteran producers and DJ's,  Ron and Mazi's music can be heard on dance 
floors around the world . . . 

Ron Carroll:
In 2000 Ron effortlessly wrote and performed the European mega hit 'Lucky 
Star" with French group Superfunk, which subsequently went on the sell over 2 
Million copies and make Ron a full fledged star. He spent the summer touring 
Europe, performing and DJ'ing to massive crowds in Ibiza, Spain, France, and 
London to name a few. His most recent release on Subliminal "It's All About 
House Music" where he appears as the RC Groove Project has quickly become an 
anthem, rocking dance floors while blowing 20,000 copies of the single off 
the shelves . . . 

Ron's career began back in 1984 as a DJ, where he gained widespread notoriety 
in his hometown. In 1987 he began to develop his vocal career recording hits 
such as "My Prayer" and "A New Day". In 1994 he collaborated with Little 
Louie Vega and Barbara Tucker to write the #1 Billboard hit "I Get Lifted". 
In 1995, Deep Soul Productions was formed alongside partners Mike Dunn and 
Byron Stingly. The trio drew clients such as Mousse T., Frankie Knuckles, 
Adeva, Kim English, and Crystal Waters. In 1999 Ron was brought on board at 
Afterhours records in Chicago. Here Ron wrote, produced, and performed 
several hits including "Soundz", alongside Spero Pagos" Stronger" alongside 
Mazi and Testament's "It Is Well". Other production credits include work with 
Grammy nominee Maurice Joshua, Destiny's Child, Monifah, and Celeda.

Mazi:
A prolific producer, Mazi has released 80 records in just 5 years time, 
creating music under the additional monikers of Studio Nova, and Audio Soul 
Project. His remix credits include work with artists such as Disco Legend 
Rochelle Fleming (First Choice), Enrique Iglesias, Marshall Jefferson, Sandy 
Riviera aka Soul Vision, Ron Carroll, Eddie Amador, Richard "Humpty" Vission 
and the French group Superfunk.  In addition to remix work, he has produced 
music for major motion pictures, most recently for the movie "Shadow Hours" 
featuring Rebecca Gayheart and Balthazar Getty. A dj for 10 years, Mazi 
continues to tour the U.S. while holding down residencies at Chicago clubs. 
His mix compilation, Audio Soul/Afterhours offers a unique perspective to 
turntablism as live instrumentation is played over his mixing.  Also an A&R 
Executive, Mazi presides over his record labels, Gourmet and Simple Soul.

Promoted by . . .

Jet Set Artist Agency
PMB 140
1658 N. Milwaukee Ave.
Chicago IL 60647
773.539.2285 ph
773.539.3120 fx
www.gojetsetdj.com

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Subject: [mw] here is how BRB/Xanadu does business

so go ahead and jump on their bandwagon and suck their nuts...
A friendly forwarded message from Benjamin Bean (playa hata #1):

yo don't wanna c.b. your future by associating your broke ass with the
thickest crew indiana has ever seen?????&nbsp; like you have a future, i
heard your a shitty dj but a great dancefloor clearer.&nbsp; asthmatic
bastard with thin wrists.....&nbsp; no skills no skills at all.&nbsp; why
you tryin to hate?&nbsp; it does not make sense?&nbsp; if anything, by
rollin with brbxanadu you'd be helping your future....they have done
nothing but help you.&nbsp; they are just tryin to build something, if you
think your such hot shit, do it yourself.&nbsp; talk the talk but can't
even walk?&nbsp; your small time, miniscule fish in a tiny puddle.&nbsp;
eat a fat ass dic, yum.</P> 
<P>By, the way , b4&nbsp; you respond, this isn't Emily, this is a friend
and supporter of brbxanadu, so watch your ass on the street,&nbsp; cause
you haters got the high beam on flashing like the gleaming parasitc whores
YOU are!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE
download of MSN Explorer at <a
href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html> 

and oh yeah, I do have asthma and thin wrists...
-Chris
PS Email him (below) if you love him...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:39:36 -0000
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<P><BR><BR></P>okay... </DIV>
<P>yo don't wanna c.b. your future by associating your broke ass with the thickest crew indiana has ever seen?????&nbsp; like you have a future, i heard your a shitty dj but a great dancefloor clearer.&nbsp; asthmatic bastard with thin wrists.....&nbsp; no skills no skills at all.&nbsp; why you tryin to hate?&nbsp; it does not make sense?&nbsp; if anything, by rollin with brbxanadu you'd be helping your future....they have done nothing but help you.&nbsp; they are just tryin to build something, if you think your such hot shit, do it yourself.&nbsp; talk the talk but can't even walk?&nbsp; your small time, miniscule fish in a tiny puddle.&nbsp; eat a fat ass dic, yum.</P>
<P>By, the way , b4&nbsp; you respond, this isn't Emily, this is a friend and supporter of brbxanadu, so watch your ass on the street,&nbsp; cause you haters got the high beam on flashing like the gleaming parasitc whores YOU are!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html>


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This is a great book (now online) about liberty, personal responsibilty, and
consensual crime. A must read for anyone who wonders how someone else can't
keep you from doing things which hurt no one except for maybe the
perpetrator.

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/

onelove.
Noble

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safety."    - Ben Franklin

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wow.

you really butchered that one.

"There is a theory that states that if ever anyone discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly
disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and
inexplicable.

"There is another which states that this has already happened.

now, doesn't it sound better when he says it?  

in the future, please refrain from misquoting Douglas Adams while i'm
within earshot.

thank you.

On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:

-->There is a theory that states if anyone is to discover the meaning of the 
-->universe it will instantly disappear and be replace with some that much more 
-->glorious and amazing.
-->
-->there is another theory that states this has already happened
-->
-->Gabe
-->Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
-->www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
-->Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com
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Obviously, this should've read -
 
A must read for anyone who wonders how someone else CAN
keep you from doing things which hurt no one except for maybe the
perpetrator.

BTW, the author is the late Peter McWilliams, libertarian and proponent for
legalizing medical marijuana among other things. Peter, who died of AIDS,
was denied the use of marijuana by OUR government and that ultimately led to
his death, since pot was the only substance that allowed him to keep food
down.



-----Original Message-----
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This is a great book (now online) about liberty, personal responsibilty, and
consensual crime. A must read for anyone who wonders how someone else can't
keep you from doing things which hurt no one except for maybe the
perpetrator.

http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/

onelove.
Noble

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ooh a rave crew acting shady and wannabe-g.  THAT'S GOTTA BE A FIRST?!

formerly of columbus,
mk

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On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 07:21:41PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
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> consensual crime. A must read for anyone who wonders how someone else can't
> keep you from doing things which hurt no one except for maybe the
> perpetrator.
> 
> http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/

Yea, I was a sucker and bought an actual copy of it...  It's a dope
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>Douglas Adams *IS* the jam, though...  I got to see him speak two
>summers ago- damn that was hilarious.

i had no idea he did speaking appearances!

speaking of, anyone down for seeing the people's bank of hank (rollins) 
speak on his 40th bday at the vic i think?  WE COULD MAKE IT A MW.RAVES 
OUTING.  ;P

doesn't know if griggles considers rollins punk,
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Subject: [mw] NEWS: Every Friday!!

Party people in the house - 

The Mark EG show was phenomenal and christens Flirts
first 200+ attendance!!  (you rock party people!)

Contrary to popular belief FLIRT will continue to
occur EVERY Friday!!

The JANUARY flyers might lead you to believe otherwise
but rest assured Madison's most flirtatious dance
club, FLIRT FRIDAY is going on EVERY Friday and
stronger than ever!!

As always I am eternally THANKFUL to all that continue
their support of our events!  Keep it up!

Flirt now has dedicated investors so we will be
bringing you some talent from afar in the months to
come!


================  N E W S !  ================== 

Flirt is proud to announce 2 production companies that
will help shape your flirting adventures in the
future:

--SUBVERSIVE INDUSTRIES will be teaming with Flirt
once a month to broaden your musical horizons.  Check
them out at www.subversiveindustries.com for all the
details...

--KOALA BEAR PRODUCTIONS will be supplementing the
flirtatious decor and lighting with projections and
lasers.  They will have a web site out soon!


=====  T H I S   F R I D A Y   J A N   1 2  ===== 

12 jan - Word of Mouth / Text of Internet - jan 12

$3 cover $3 cover $3 cover $3 cover $3 cover 

*** DJ Q23 / Eucalyptus Records recording artist /
Order of the Trance pioneer - 
A not so well known but powerfully creative DJ and
producer.  For nearly 10 years DJ Q23 aka Q has played
all over the state and has collaborated with other
Wisconxin producers to form the legendary group
'ACIDCRAFT'!!  Those frequenting the rave scene in '96
know what I'm talkin' about!!!  He's got a record out
with D-on on Madison based Eucalyptus Records in
stores now!  Come see this old skooler get down with a
mix of house licks from the good ol' days!

     :also:

*** DIRTY NEEDLE & DUSTY GROOVE tag team / Audio
Teknik / Cyte_Graphics / Flirt reprezent!
Little did you know that almost everyone behind Flirt
Fridays is a DJ!  Our sound and light tech and our
graphic designer are going to to a little tagarama for
the dance floor drama!  Expect some good acid house
and acid techno from this dynamic duo!  

                  :also:

*** LO FEI aka CELL / TwentyTwelve Recordings /
www.madisonfamily.com
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Sonic Foundry paychecks (ha) to good use and buyin'
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Jungle n' D&B and maybe a lil' tekno too.  The
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DJs go to for superb digital recording and quality
duplication of their mixes!  Come and see what's up
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12 jan - Word of Mouth / Text of Internet - jan 12

$3 cover $3 cover $3 cover $3 cover $3 cover 

F L I R T   F R I D A Y 

1291 N Sherman Ave - Madison!

Flirt it up!



 




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On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 07:53:57PM -0600, michael knight wrote:
> i had no idea he did speaking appearances!

Yea, it was at the JavaOne conference (yea, I'm a nerd...  But it was a
trip to San Francisco on the company bill...)

> speaking of, anyone down for seeing the people's bank of hank (rollins) 
> speak on his 40th bday at the vic i think?  WE COULD MAKE IT A MW.RAVES 
> OUTING.  ;P

When is it?

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I heard Gabe is giving out duck-shots to all takers as long as your duck
butter isn't too runny or miscolored.

passin on that one
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->
-->>Douglas Adams *IS* the jam, though...  I got to see him speak two
-->>summers ago- damn that was hilarious.
-->
-->i had no idea he did speaking appearances!

napster, baby.  napster.

-->speaking of, anyone down for seeing the people's bank of hank (rollins) 
-->speak on his 40th bday at the vic i think?  WE COULD MAKE IT A MW.RAVES 
-->OUTING.  ;P

I saw him speak in November, I think it was.  He didn't do much of
that top-of-the-lungs ranting that i expected, but he's very
articulate and very funny.  His performance went (briefly) something
like

-  why L.A. sucks
-  why popular music sucks
-  why L.A. produces so much popular music that sucks
-  why a 40 year old aging alternative icon would want to live
   in such a sucky city.
-  how to be an anal retentive music collector
-  fin.

I laughed, I cried, I hurled.  It was good.  He briefly interjects
stuff about making movies, Slobodan Milosevic, The Bushes, and
travelling around India.  

Has anyone read any of his books?  I bought "Smile, You're Travelling"
over Christams break but haven't gotten a chance to read it yet.


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i'm definitely down... feb 13, right?

-t

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>I saw him speak in November, I think it was.  He didn't do much of
>that top-of-the-lungs ranting that i expected, but he's very
>articulate and very funny.

i have all of his spoken word albums (unless something has come out 
recently - i have all of them through like 1994) and one of the videos, 
they are all very very entertaining - "articulate and very funny" certainly 
fits.

>Has anyone read any of his books?  I bought "Smile, You're Travelling"
>over Christams break but haven't gotten a chance to read it yet.

i have a well-worn copy of "pissing in the gene pool/art to choke hearts" 
that i used to carry around in my backpack.  it's all short writings so i 
could always turn to a random page and get a dose of good ole hank.  i 
think i read "see a grown man cry" in HS - whichever one had paul the 
homeless guy on the cover.  i think i might have read "now watch him die" 
too, actually there might have been one book printed with both of these in 
there.  anyway i don't remember the books too well, with the exception of 
my favourite passages in pitgp/atch.

tv party tonite,
mk



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>i'm definitely down... feb 13, right?

yeah 2.13.01 - the only reason i haven't bought a ticket yet is because 
it's reserved seating.

mk

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i don't like to miss a chance to see henry rollins, i'm definitely there.
his dad is from madison (not that they talk) and he used to do his birthday
show here, either on his birthday or somewhere near it.  madison is losing a
lot of local places for punk/alternative acts (not dj's tho, strange
enough), another burned down jan 1, its probably nearly impossible to try to
book a small act here now.  but that's another story.

one of the 1st punk shows i got to see was black flag in '86, henry was
outside the venue in lacrosse, wi and stepped between this 13 year old cocky
loud mouth skinny kid (me) and an early 20's redneck in cowboy boots that
wanted to kick my ass.  i think its the only ass beating i ever got out of.

sooooooooo, how does one get tickets?

i can see you,
-t

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>i'm definitely down... feb 13, right?

yeah 2.13.01 - the only reason i haven't bought a ticket yet is because 
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>one of the 1st punk shows i got to see was black flag in '86, henry was
>outside the venue in lacrosse, wi and stepped between this 13 year old cocky
>loud mouth skinny kid (me) and an early 20's redneck in cowboy boots that
>wanted to kick my ass.  i think its the only ass beating i ever got out of.

holy crap!  that's some story.  rollins kept you from getting beat up!  :D

>sooooooooo, how does one get tickets?

www.ticketmaster.com - it's reserved seating tho so if any listees want to 
go together then we/they should find one person to buy tix or they'll be 
scattered.

reserved seating - "on some tori amos concert shit",
mk

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>From: Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com>
>To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [mw] Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:30:59 -0600
>
>Obviously, this should've read -
>
>A must read for anyone who wonders how someone else CAN
>keep you from doing things which hurt no one except for maybe the
>perpetrator.
>
>BTW, the author is the late Peter McWilliams, libertarian and proponent for
>legalizing medical marijuana among other things. Peter, who died of AIDS,
>was denied the use of marijuana by OUR government and that ultimately led 
>to
>his death, since pot was the only substance that allowed him to keep food
>down.


McWilliams was a great man.  To add a little more to the story, he actually 
died from asphyxiating on his own vomit, something that most likely wouldnt 
have happened if the government had allowed him to use the one drug, 
marijuana, that prevented his vomitting.  The courts had threatened to 
confiscate his home and put him in jail if he was caught with marijuana 
again.

Listen people, regardless of your views of recreational marijuana use, 
medical marijuana is LEGITIMATE and NOT a ploy to legalize mj use for 
everyone.  Opiate derivatives are very effective at treating pain, and not a 
scheme to legalize heroin.  The world's most prominent evolutionary 
biologist, Stephen J Gould, claims that with out marijuana to calm his 
nausea, the chemotherapy treatment he underwent to treat a cancer in early 
80s would have probably killed him.

If you have the chance, vote for reform of our laws and convince others to 
do the same.  The latter being the more important.

Adam
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>From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
>
>wow.
>
>you really butchered that one.
>

hey dawg, check out:
www.anal.com
I think you will like it.

;)

...still a rose...
adam



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>
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>------------------
>There is a theory that states if anyone is to discover the meaning of the
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DAMN I am so there, where can you get tickets??

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:54 PM
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> 
> 
> 
> >Douglas Adams *IS* the jam, though...  I got to see him speak two
> >summers ago- damn that was hilarious.
> 
> i had no idea he did speaking appearances!
> 
> speaking of, anyone down for seeing the people's bank of hank (rollins) 
> speak on his 40th bday at the vic i think?  WE COULD MAKE IT A MW.RAVES 
> OUTING.  ;P
> 
> doesn't know if griggles considers rollins punk,
> mk
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Subject: [mw] Mwah!

>> i just spent a week in edina and i didn't eat one piece of cake.
>> drat!

>    Was that edina, MN? Well if you didn't eat cake, you missed the full
>edina experience. Did you at least get lost for a half hour or more?

Nah, he was just sitting in traffic.  Goddamn grannies in SUV's.....

And I was never bum-rushed when I got on a couple of weeks ago... 'course
I was on back in '97.... But I was a dork back then.  And got ripped into
pretty hardcore for that.  <sniff>

Groove was a cool movie, but when was the last time Digweed did a
warehouse party?  (not like any of you anti-trance weenies would know...
:-)  Start flaming now...)  And Oakie can suck mah balls.... Anybody read
the Oakie moron count in Xlr8r?

Currently I am earnestly converting my surrounding dorm-mates... Already
I have two...

And I grew up outside of Rockford.  But I live in Minneapolis.  And go to
school in Omaha.  (Anything good coming up there?)

>and i still don't like trance. 9.99 times out of 9, it
>makes me want to ralph all over the nearest candy ass.

>got a problem with that?
>pixie

Yeah, yeah I do.

And I want a third nut.  <looks for diet coke>

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Subject: [mw] Announcement on YESfest 2!  

The following is an announcement sent by 
Trevor of Teknomafia and the YES! crew....
it is regarding the second YES!fest scheduled
for this year.


::NOTE::
Physix Records are making no claim to being
promoters of this event.   However, we duly
support this event and we will continue
to support Matt, Colleen and Trevor in their 
endeavors to integrate a more spiritually-guided 
element to an already musically diverse revolution!!  



The following message is directly from 
Trevor of Teknomafia/Yes!fest and 
questions and comments concerning 
the message or the event should be 
directed to him at YesFest@aol.com.

Thank you

Brandon Harris
Physix Records
Babylon Collective

Begin forwarded message:

YES Festival 2: Reach for the stars



OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: YES FEST 2 "Reach for the stars"

We are in the initial planning stages of YES Fest 2! The response & 
encouragement we received after last summer's event was overwhelming. We did 
the first YES Fest as a testament to what positive things there are in the 
scene & to show that it is possible to have an event of such a huge magnitude 
& still exist in peaceful & respectful manner with one another. 
Despite some of the negative forces that tried to put an end to the festival 
last summer we still were able to complete the event as scheduled but only 
because of the support from all of you, our dearest of friends & supporters. 
No amount of hatred or misunderstanding can combat the love & good will you 
all share.

We were encouraged to do another almost immediately due to the huge number of 
emails we received from attendees telling us how special the weekend was to 
them, the quality of music there & most impressive to us, how the event had 
changed some peoples lives for the better. Alot of people told us how they 
see there is more to music events than drugs & other negative influences. We 
are sure that all of you made some new friends that weekend & have a better 
understanding of your importance as an individual & not a source of income as 
many other promoters view the kids who come to parties. You truly are the 
Young Enlightened Souls that we do all of this for!

This years festival promises to be bigger, better & we hope will affect kids 
positively as much as the last one. We have already had literally hundreds of 
requests for independent sound systems, promotional help & performers.

***Many of you have emailed us asking what you can do to help out. For now we 
are looking for investors, venues & sponsors. If you have any information on 
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As in cake-eaters? Wow...I haven't heard that one
since high school...and I thought it was Eden Prarie.

I re-watched Groove this weekend. Man...that is some
cheesy shit. The part where the guy is like,"I do it
for the nod," kills me. And I've seen John Digweed
before in Liverpool. It wasnt' anything like that
shit.
If you want a rave movie that tells it like it is, see
Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended

Oh yeah, and trance blows ;)

erikka
--- Bill Ding <thewarrior@juno.com> wrote:
> >> i just spent a week in edina and i didn't eat one
> piece of cake.
> >> drat!
> 
> >    Was that edina, MN? Well if you didn't eat
> cake, you missed the full
> >edina experience. Did you at least get lost for a
> half hour or more?
> 
> Nah, he was just sitting in traffic.  Goddamn
> grannies in SUV's.....
> 
> And I was never bum-rushed when I got on a couple of
> weeks ago... 'course
> I was on back in '97.... But I was a dork back then.
>  And got ripped into
> pretty hardcore for that.  <sniff>
> 
> Groove was a cool movie, but when was the last time
> Digweed did a
> warehouse party?  (not like any of you anti-trance
> weenies would know...
> :-)  Start flaming now...)  And Oakie can suck mah
> balls.... Anybody read
> the Oakie moron count in Xlr8r?
> 
> Currently I am earnestly converting my surrounding
> dorm-mates... Already
> I have two...
> 
> And I grew up outside of Rockford.  But I live in
> Minneapolis.  And go to
> school in Omaha.  (Anything good coming up there?)
> 
> >and i still don't like trance. 9.99 times out of 9,
> it
> >makes me want to ralph all over the nearest candy
> ass.
> 
> >got a problem with that?
> >pixie
> 
> Yeah, yeah I do.
> 
> And I want a third nut.  <looks for diet coke>
> 
>
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> 
> DJ Assault - Mo' Wax - Detroit's Ghettotech Master

Damn, baby. Last time I saw him was at the Frying Pan
in NYC. It's this old boat that was converted into a
club. Anyway, everyone got NAS-TAY!!!
> 
> > > Raverporn kissing booth!  
> > Massage Therapy by Touchy Feely!

and it all goes downhill from here....
erikka
> > > 
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HARMONY PRODUCTIONS -- LIVE DJ Sessions!
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and every Wednesday

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listen 24/7 for regular broadcasting  (just click on Listen Live!)
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******************************************************************************

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----- Original Message -----=20
From: analogbass@home.com=20
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:46 PM
Subject: Headroom Online Mixes


Headroom's Refuse & Resist Tour promo mix is now online for real audio =
streaming.
Also early next week Slobodan & Submerge 101's Tour promo mix will be =
available for online streaming.
*mp3's tracks from Headroom, Slobodan, Glenn Wilson & Mike Humphries are =
now available for download
on the FSAM site as well.   www.france-techno.com/fullspectrum

We are still booking for Headroom & Slobodan's North American Tour - =
Refuse & Resist -
Contact Mike for more info. 309.781.6693 - analogbass@home.com=20



HEADROOM - 6 TURNTABLE PERFORMANCE
SLOBODAN - 3 TURNTABLE PERFORMANCE
SUBMERGE 101 - 3 TURNTABLE PERFORMANCE


& coming later in 2001



PUNISH RECORDS NORTH AMERICAN TOUR

GLENN WILSON=20
MIKE HUMPHRIES
JOSHUA GRANT

visit www.france-techno.com/fullspectrum  for more info and online =
booking.


Regards,
Mike=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 09, 2001 11:46 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Headroom Online Mixes</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Headroom's Refuse &amp; Resist Tour =
promo mix is=20
now online for real audio streaming.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Also early next week Slobodan &amp; =
Submerge=20
101's&nbsp;Tour promo mix will be available for online =
streaming.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>*mp3's tracks from Headroom, =
Slobodan, Glenn=20
Wilson &amp; Mike Humphries are now available for download</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>on the FSAM site as well.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.france-techno.com/fullspectrum">www.france-techno.com/=
fullspectrum</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>We are still booking for Headroom =
&amp;=20
Slobodan's North American Tour - Refuse &amp; Resist -</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Contact Mike for more info. =
309.781.6693 - <A=20
href=3D"mailto:analogbass@home.com">analogbass@home.com</A>&nbsp;</FONT><=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>HEADROOM - 6 TURNTABLE =
PERFORMANCE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>SLOBODAN - 3 TURNTABLE =
PERFORMANCE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>SUBMERGE 101 -&nbsp;3 TURNTABLE=20
PERFORMANCE</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>&amp; coming later in =
2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><IMG alt=3D"" hspace=3D0=20
src=3D"cid:004501c07ae2$1f1a78c0$32f20341@moline1.il.home.com" =
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border=3D0></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>PUNISH RECORDS NORTH AMERICAN =
TOUR</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>GLENN WILSON </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>MIKE HUMPHRIES</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>JOSHUA GRANT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>visit <A=20
href=3D"http://www.france-techno.com/fullspectrum">www.france-techno.com/=
fullspectrum</A>&nbsp;=20
for more info and online booking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Mike <BR>FSAM</FONT></DIV>
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HARMONY PRODUCTIONS -- LIVE DJ Sessions!
Broadcast Originates from the HARMONY STUDIOS in
Birmingham, Alabama -- USA

Wed. Jan. 10, 2001
and every Wednesday

---- New lineup weekly -----

listen 24/7 for regular broadcasting  (just click on Listen Live!)
@ WWW.HARMONYNET.NET

 
Starting @ 9:00 pm till 1:00am CST. ....... and sometimes later!

9--10pm
GEOFF ALLEN -- harmony, Birmingham, AL (progressive

10---11pm
JOSH PATRICK - huntsville, AL

11---12 midnight 
LYDIA PRIM -- queen of the circuit party scene , Birmingham, AL 

12-1am
REDBONE -- Anniston, AL (breaks)

1---2am
Tenkae - live from Austin, TX

2--3am
Kenada -- live from Tampa, FL (breaks

3-4am
VITO TALAMO -- fresh in from Delaware (hard house) also live from Tampa
******************************************************************************

Thanks for listening ... peace on
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I loved Doctor Who and cried when PBS stopped playing it.  (And then
giggled with joy when they brought it back.)

Orbital actually played their remix of it at NYE 2000 (and then followed
with the obligatory Chime)

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Subject: [mw] Nebraska this weekend

Hey-

First off, I wanna ask:  Where the F* is Kearney, NE?  (With regard to
Omaha.)  Sorry, but I ain't from these parts.

Then I wanted to ask:  Anybody know about what's going on there this Fri?
 Pinnacle or something.  What's the ages on that? 18+?  21+?

I only ask because it sounds like a club and alcohol is around.  

And finally, what's up with Saturday night in Omaha?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Promoters love underage ravers,

Mike

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everyday i am somehow reminded of reasons why i hate
indiana and a vast number of people who live there.

pixie


--- Chris Hall <cmhall@indiana.edu> wrote:
> so go ahead and jump on their bandwagon and suck
> their nuts...
> A friendly forwarded message from Benjamin Bean
> (playa hata #1):
> 
> yo don't wanna c.b. your future by associating your
> broke ass with the
> thickest crew indiana has ever seen?????&nbsp; like
> you have a future, i
> heard your a shitty dj but a great dancefloor
> clearer.&nbsp; asthmatic
> bastard with thin wrists.....&nbsp; no skills no
> skills at all.&nbsp; why
> you tryin to hate?&nbsp; it does not make
> sense?&nbsp; if anything, by
> rollin with brbxanadu you'd be helping your
> future....they have done
> nothing but help you.&nbsp; they are just tryin to
> build something, if you
> think your such hot shit, do it yourself.&nbsp; talk
> the talk but can't
> even walk?&nbsp; your small time, miniscule fish in
> a tiny puddle.&nbsp;
> eat a fat ass dic, yum.</P> 
> <P>By, the way , b4&nbsp; you respond, this isn't
> Emily, this is a friend
> and supporter of brbxanadu, so watch your ass on the
> street,&nbsp; cause
> you haters got the high beam on flashing like the
> gleaming parasitc whores
> YOU are!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><br
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<html><head></head><body>is on Saturday the 27th January 2k1 @ Club MARIA in BERLIN - Germany<br>
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forthcoming dates ... plus -&gt; DATES for 'steppa2thousand1'... 2 0 0 1

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> to make history, you need to have a location...
thanks
i'll take that into consideration next time i found a nation or swim around
the world or some other
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Keoki's 'Caterpillar' is today's featured download on Napster.

Your mother and I thought it was better that you found out this way.

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you should change the name of your event to deep throat thursday's

that is all

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>From: Erikka Bohm <enbohm@yahoo.com>
>I re-watched Groove this weekend. Man...that is some
>cheesy shit. The part where the guy is like,"I do it
>for the nod," kills me. And I've seen John Digweed
>before in Liverpool. It wasnt' anything like that
>shit.
>If you want a rave movie that tells it like it is, see
>Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended

Please PLEASE tell me there really is a movie called Raver Bathroom.  I 
would love to own a copy of that to show people what the rave scene is 
really like.

Adam

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i just went to the ticketmaster web site and it looks like it is general
admission...

-t


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Subject: RE: [mw] nrr:interesting

www.ticketmaster.com - it's reserved seating tho so if any listees want to 
go together then we/they should find one person to buy tix or they'll be 
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>From: pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com>
>everyday i am somehow reminded of reasons why i hate
>indiana and a vast number of people who live there.
>
>pixie
>

you just a hater!

talk to the hand,
adam



>
>--- Chris Hall <cmhall@indiana.edu> wrote:
> > so go ahead and jump on their bandwagon and suck
> > their nuts...
> > A friendly forwarded message from Benjamin Bean
> > (playa hata #1):
> >
> > yo don't wanna c.b. your future by associating your
> > broke ass with the
> > thickest crew indiana has ever seen?????&nbsp; like
> > you have a future, i
> > heard your a shitty dj but a great dancefloor
> > clearer.&nbsp; asthmatic
> > bastard with thin wrists.....&nbsp; no skills no
> > skills at all.&nbsp; why
> > you tryin to hate?&nbsp; it does not make
> > sense?&nbsp; if anything, by
> > rollin with brbxanadu you'd be helping your
> > future....they have done
> > nothing but help you.&nbsp; they are just tryin to
> > build something, if you
> > think your such hot shit, do it yourself.&nbsp; talk
> > the talk but can't
> > even walk?&nbsp; your small time, miniscule fish in
> > a tiny puddle.&nbsp;
> > eat a fat ass dic, yum.</P>
> > <P>By, the way , b4&nbsp; you respond, this isn't
> > Emily, this is a friend
> > and supporter of brbxanadu, so watch your ass on the
> > street,&nbsp; cause
> > you haters got the high beam on flashing like the
> > gleaming parasitc whores
> > YOU are!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><br
> > clear=all><hr>Get your FREE
> > download of MSN Explorer at <a
> >

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yeah, vote Libertarian!

onelove.
Noble


Listen people, regardless of your views of recreational marijuana use, 
medical marijuana is LEGITIMATE and NOT a ploy to legalize mj use for 
everyone.  Opiate derivatives are very effective at treating pain, and not a

scheme to legalize heroin.  The world's most prominent evolutionary 
biologist, Stephen J Gould, claims that with out marijuana to calm his 
nausea, the chemotherapy treatment he underwent to treat a cancer in early 
80s would have probably killed him.

If you have the chance, vote for reform of our laws and convince others to 
do the same.  The latter being the more important.

Adam
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> >Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended
> 
> Please PLEASE tell me there really is a movie called Raver Bathroom.  I 
> would love to own a copy of that to show people what the rave scene is 
> really like.

I wouldn't know about that... but there is a movie called "rave
fever," and it's *BY FAR* the best rave movie ever made.

it's a hong kong rave flick...  if you're not already excited, you should
be.  It's a story of a kid who gets really drunk, ends up at a rave party,
takes a girl home, and then can't remember who she is.  But she left her
organizer (refered to in the movie as a "filofax") at his place, and so
begins his quest to track down the elusive "slept with her" rave girl.  

It's filled with completely ridiculous plot twists, which is funny since
there's not much plot there to be twisted.  

raves in hong kong are much more posh than they are in the states... and
if there's actually that much sex going on at them, they're probably more
fun too!

for more info: http://www.goldenharvest.com/ravefever/

chris


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Subject: [mw] Re: rave movies (was Re: [mw] Mwah!)




>From: <chrise@pubnix.org>
>To: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>CC: enbohm@yahoo.com, thewarrior@juno.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: rave movies (was Re: [mw] Mwah!)
>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:54:07 -0500 (EST)
>
>
> > >Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended
> >
> > Please PLEASE tell me there really is a movie called Raver Bathroom.  I
> > would love to own a copy of that to show people what the rave scene is
> > really like.
>
>I wouldn't know about that... but there is a movie called "rave
>fever," and it's *BY FAR* the best rave movie ever made.
>
>it's a hong kong rave flick...  if you're not already excited, you should
>be.  It's a story of a kid who gets really drunk, ends up at a rave party,
>takes a girl home, and then can't remember who she is.  But she left her
>organizer (refered to in the movie as a "filofax") at his place, and so
>begins his quest to track down the elusive "slept with her" rave girl.
>

If I only had a nickle for every time that has happened to me...

Instead all I got from my random ravesex hookups were these STDs.  Fun in 
their own way I guess.  Still not as fun as a pile of nickles would be!

ah well,
Adam

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    Damn, what's with all the Mpls freaks comin' outta the woodwork? Are you
the Erikka who's friends with kara and catherine? Did mnrave.com put out
some kind of huge mw-raves subscribe drive that I missed or something?

Matt Murphy
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> As in cake-eaters? Wow...I haven't heard that one
> since high school...and I thought it was Eden Prarie.
>
> I re-watched Groove this weekend. Man...that is some
> cheesy shit. The part where the guy is like,"I do it
> for the nod," kills me. And I've seen John Digweed
> before in Liverpool. It wasnt' anything like that
> shit.
> If you want a rave movie that tells it like it is, see
> Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended
>
> Oh yeah, and trance blows ;)
>
> erikka
> --- Bill Ding <thewarrior@juno.com> wrote:
> > >> i just spent a week in edina and i didn't eat one
> > piece of cake.
> > >> drat!
> >
> > >    Was that edina, MN? Well if you didn't eat
> > cake, you missed the full
> > >edina experience. Did you at least get lost for a
> > half hour or more?
> >
> > Nah, he was just sitting in traffic.  Goddamn
> > grannies in SUV's.....
> >
> > And I was never bum-rushed when I got on a couple of
> > weeks ago... 'course
> > I was on back in '97.... But I was a dork back then.
> >  And got ripped into
> > pretty hardcore for that.  <sniff>
> >
> > Groove was a cool movie, but when was the last time
> > Digweed did a
> > warehouse party?  (not like any of you anti-trance
> > weenies would know...
> > :-)  Start flaming now...)  And Oakie can suck mah
> > balls.... Anybody read
> > the Oakie moron count in Xlr8r?
> >
> > Currently I am earnestly converting my surrounding
> > dorm-mates... Already
> > I have two...
> >
> > And I grew up outside of Rockford.  But I live in
> > Minneapolis.  And go to
> > school in Omaha.  (Anything good coming up there?)
> >
> > >and i still don't like trance. 9.99 times out of 9,
> > it
> > >makes me want to ralph all over the nearest candy
> > ass.
> >
> > >got a problem with that?
> > >pixie
> >
> > Yeah, yeah I do.
> >
> > And I want a third nut.  <looks for diet coke>
> >
> >
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> Please PLEASE tell me there really is a movie called
> Raver Bathroom.  I 
> would love to own a copy of that to show people what
> the rave scene is 
> really like.

OMG! LOL!

/me snickers...sorry michael, had to do it. but
seriously, if this movie exists, i must have it,
although it sounds as though it should be more
appropriately titled "rave in the girls bathroom"

*grin*
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>/me snickers...sorry michael, had to do it. but
>seriously, if this movie exists, i must have it,
>although it sounds as though it should be more
>appropriately titled "rave in the girls bathroom"

OMG LOL OMG

this exists, i've seen a website with stills from it...it's by the same 
people that made "heavy metal parking lot" and who knows how many other 
films based on the same formula.

would also like to see it,
too bad scour isn't still around,
mk


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Subject: [mw] human traffic is the best rave movie

when i was in england in 1999, i saw an awesome movie called "Human Traff=
ic". =

it's a druggy/romance/comedy about a group of friends in london who go to=
 lots
of parties.  one of the guys works at a Dn'B record shop, and the scenes =
in
there are hilarious!  the movie itself is kinda like a soap opera crossed=
 with
the big lebowski or half-baked.  i dont' know why it was never released i=
n the
US, but i'll bet it's out there on video.  the soundtrack was cool, too -=
 i
can't remember it all now, but i think it was mixed by pete tong.  =


the funniest thing was that i saw it at a special preview screening at th=
e
homelands festival; they had it in a chill tent.  i took two rolls before=
 the
movie started, and near the end, the two main characters *finally* hook u=
p in
a really sweet/sexy scene.  of course, that's when i started coming up on=
 my
rolls, and oh geeeez, i was really having a hard time keeping it together=
!

anyway, ignore my blablalblalala and go get Human Traffic.

peace,
catnap

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>raves in hong kong are much more posh than they are in the states... and
>if there's actually that much sex going on at them, they're probably more
>fun too!

i heard that the security at HKEMF had machine guns!!

no joke,
mk
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Subject: Re: [mw] Announcement on YESfest 2!  

is seminal prog rock favourite YES going to be playing this year?

the joke is old, tired, and lame, and yet i still insist on telling it,
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yeah, that was the one.  i bought two mixtapes from the massive booth, da=
vid
hollands and that anonymous ghetto mix.  so, it is quite possible that we=

met.... altho all i remember about the guys there was that one of them wa=
s
wearing a black shirt and had facial hair... if it was you, hey, small wo=
rld
and shit!  ...by the way, what large guy getting medical attention?  it m=
ay
have been my buddy derek - he did a bunch of pills that turned out to be =
PCP
and i heard he got really sick.  =


peace
catnap

Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
is that the party i was at w/ massive?  del the funky homosapien was on t=
he
lineup, and the "highlight" of the night was the heavy kid in the cool
skinny puppy tshirt needing medical attention... =


i mighta been one of the people you were talking to... i was in the
"ministry" black long sleeve t.

unless its a different party, and then, well, i dunno

aliens ate my baby - thank god,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]


i ran into some of the folks from massive at metamorphosis 3 in columbus,=

back
in november.  they said that they were pouring all of their effort into t=
he
website, but the mag will be back soon.

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So I'm listening to Discohaus by Bryan.  There is some
funny as shit in that tape.  For starters the opps I
did it again track on side A but the best is the last
track on side B.  Ur listening to this nice disco
house track and bam, rewind and here comes the happy
hardcore.  Just couldn't resist not putting a happy
hardcore track in there coulda ya Bryan.  It's all
good though, I mean ur cande for life so it's
understandable.  Just wanted to drop that in.
Much Love and Mad Hugz
Rich with colored hair

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blurb, another tony sebion sighting fully recorded and documented.

i had the feeling that most of the people there were pretty afraid of us,
not necessarily a bad thing i don't think.  nice to see that someone saw
through our rough exterior and saw our sensitive side.

that was a joke.

sorry about your pal w/ the cool tshirt that we were all jealous about - if
some of you remember back, that was the party i was @ that someone wanted to
know if we had any pixy sticks to sell 'cuz he wanted to pour sugar down
this unresponsive person's throat... we didn't, but i didn't think it
sounded like a good idea anyway.  derek must've been that guy that was
unresponsive.

hmmm, another good idea, i think i need a medic alert bracelet that says "if
unresponsive, please keep ravers away from me".

-t



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yeah, that was the one.  i bought two mixtapes from the massive booth, david
hollands and that anonymous ghetto mix.  so, it is quite possible that we
met.... altho all i remember about the guys there was that one of them was
wearing a black shirt and had facial hair... if it was you, hey, small world
and shit!  ...by the way, what large guy getting medical attention?  it may
have been my buddy derek - he did a bunch of pills that turned out to be PCP
and i heard he got really sick.  

peace
catnap

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>     Damn, what's with all the Mpls freaks comin' outta the 
> woodwork? Are you
> the Erikka who's friends with kara and catherine? Did 
> mnrave.com put out
> some kind of huge mw-raves subscribe drive that I missed or something?
yeha they are underground, you were left out.

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> @ that someone wanted to
> know if we had any pixy sticks to sell 'cuz he
> wanted to pour sugar down
> this unresponsive person's throat... we didn't, but
> i didn't think it
> sounded like a good idea anyway.  

this has been "known"
(iamnotadoctoricannotsupportorvalidatethisclaim) to
help people who have taken too much k. the problem is,
with the rampant number of ravers who think they're
educated and know what they're doing when in fact
they're a bunch of ignorant dipshits, i've noticed
that this has become a catchall for anyone who has a
friend that's od'ing. no matter how many times i've
told these kids at parties that they need to get their
friend to a hospital, they INSIST "no all he needs is
some sugar and some water"

pretty damn scary. "let's play rave doctor. trust me,
i know what i'm doing"
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Subject: [mw] movies

While we're on the subject of rave movies:

Rave Macbeth (2001)
Directed by: Klaus Knoesel
Genre: Thriller / Drama 
Plot Outline: A retelling of Shakespeare's Macbeth set
in the world of rave music. 
Status: Post-production  
Note: Since this project is categorized as being in
production, the data is subject to change or could be
removed completely. 

got the info from imdb.com

*shakes head*
this should be interesting.
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>someone wanted to
>know if we had any pixy sticks to sell 'cuz he wanted to pour sugar down
>this unresponsive person's throat... we didn't, but i didn't think it
>sounded like a good idea anyway.

"who put COOKIES in his mouth?!  you're not supposed to do that!!"

mk
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>"trust me, i know what i'm doing"

!bigups SLEDGE HAMMER!!!

i can impersonate elvis more efficiently than any american,
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> pretty damn scary. "let's play rave doctor. trust me,
> i know what i'm doing"
> pixie
WE NEED TO GET HIM A G-DRIP STAT!


NURSE! SCALPEL! I'M GOIN IN!

love
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> > >Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended
> > 
> > Please PLEASE tell me there really is a movie
> called Raver Bathroom.  

being bored at work, i found that there is not only a
movie, but a website with clips as well

predictably enough:
http://www.raverbathroom.com

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> hmmm, another good idea, i think i need a medic alert 
> bracelet that says "if
> unresponsive, please keep ravers away from me".
good thinking!

i want that engraved on my headstone when i die too

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no no! on your headstone it's "micah topping, lover of the people"

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > hmmm, another good idea, i think i need a medic alert 
> > bracelet that says "if
> > unresponsive, please keep ravers away from me".
> good thinking!
> 
> i want that engraved on my headstone when i die too
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Subject: [mw] come to activ8 tonight

It's wednesday. Go out and have too much to drink at Activ8 tonight.
Activ8 is brought to you by: Denny's Creature and some other cool people.

(paste)

9:00 - 10:00 - Digital PsyKosis v. DJ Sluck (Trance) - Activ8's resident 
pimp takes on a Cincinnati rising star.  Sluck n' Fuck ya'll. Or something 
like that.

10:00 - 11:00 - Green Tara v. Judas (Hardcore) - Dayton's very own "dweeb of 
the decks" matches 1200's with the man who killed Christ in an all-out 
warfare for the safety of the world.  Or at least a beer.

11:00 - 12:00 - Ali Obvious v. Mike Donovan (Funky House) - Get your groove 
on with the men behind some of the best parties in Dayton.

12:00 - 2:00 - React v. Callabreeze (Techno) - One of Cincinnati's most 
respected promoters and DJ's takes on one of Dayton's prodigal sons in an 
extended set of bangin techno.

2:00 - 3:00 - DJ Soniq Stylz v. DJ D8A (House) - Last time these two hooked 
up, they almost blew the speakers off.  Who knows what's gonna come out of 
the crates this time.

3:00 - close - If we have time, you'll see DJ Amtrak take on himself and his 
own demons in a two turntable all out drum n' bass warefare.

Activ8 is located at Sirens Niteclub, 1130 E. Central Ave.  West Carrolton.  
For info and directions, call 937.866.6699, or click over to 
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp/activ8.html

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> no no! on your headstone it's "micah topping, lover of the people"
oh yeah

well okay then, that IS what i wanted it to say instead,
so at the funeral i am requesting that no visors be permitted
hows that?

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who's actually going to be there tonite? if there are going to be more
people than last week i could be persuaded to show up again...

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that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > no no! on your headstone it's "micah topping, lover of the people"
> oh yeah
> 
> well okay then, that IS what i wanted it to say instead,
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> hows that?
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> that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security
get some of those hong kong uzi wielding raver security types for my funeral
i know a lot of ravers that would like to see my dead body defiled(for both
good and bad)

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YOU LEAVE THE PLANNING TO ME BUSTER!!!!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security
> get some of those hong kong uzi wielding raver security types for my funeral
> i know a lot of ravers that would like to see my dead body defiled(for both
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> YOU LEAVE THE PLANNING TO ME BUSTER!!!!
are you organizing security and festivities or the defiling?
or does the defiling and festivities overlap?

i SO want my dead body "defiled"
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well we can talk in private about how you want your body "defiled" unless
other list members would like to hear about it! ANYONE???? IF YOU WANNA
HEAR ABOUT MICAH'S DEFILING, SEND AN EMAIL TO THE LIST!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > YOU LEAVE THE PLANNING TO ME BUSTER!!!!
> are you organizing security and festivities or the defiling?
> or does the defiling and festivities overlap?
> 
> i SO want my dead body "defiled"
> it sounds like fun
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coca cola in excess tends to make one selfish, avoid this
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From mw-raves-return-13668-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 17:47:57 2001
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were you looking at the right 
show?  --> 
https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=4003223EAB0E7B9&event_code=EVT0213E

it has a seating chart and everything.  it's kinda GA in that all the 
tickets are the same price, but you get a section/row/seat #.

mk

At 08:47 AM 1/10/2001 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
>i just went to the ticketmaster web site and it looks like it is general
>admission...
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>-t
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>www.ticketmaster.com - it's reserved seating tho so if any listees want to
>go together then we/they should find one person to buy tix or they'll be
>scattered.
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>that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security

the security should be firm but friendly and rave-experienced.

mk
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ooooh on some godfather shit.

mk

At 12:30 PM 1/10/2001 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
> > that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security
>get some of those hong kong uzi wielding raver security types for my funeral
>i know a lot of ravers that would like to see my dead body defiled(for both
>good and bad)
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> >that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security
> 
> the security should be firm but friendly and rave-experienced.

AND THEY'D BETTER NOT TAKE MY WATTER BOTTLE!

I DONT WANNA GO TO NO SHADY FUNERAL


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> well we can talk in private about how you want your body 
> "defiled" unless
> other list members would like to hear about it! ANYONE???? IF 
> YOU WANNA
> HEAR ABOUT MICAH'S DEFILING, SEND AN EMAIL TO THE LIST!
OOH ME ME ME!

do i count?

it doesnt seem they are too excited heather.

we try and please people and they just ignore us, this is the thanks we get?

fuckers

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YO CHRIS!!! YOU GOTSA LEAVE YO WATER AT THE DOOR AND BUY MY BABIE'S 10
DOLLAR A BOTTLE MICAH WATER.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

> > >that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security
> > 
> > the security should be firm but friendly and rave-experienced.
> 
> AND THEY'D BETTER NOT TAKE MY WATTER BOTTLE!
> 
> I DONT WANNA GO TO NO SHADY FUNERAL
> 

coca cola in excess tends to make one selfish, avoid this
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I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT MICAH'S DEFICATION!!

mk

At 11:44 AM 1/10/2001 -0600, heather wrote:

>well we can talk in private about how you want your body "defiled" unless
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> > >that's fine, i'm make sure there's heavy security
> > 
> > the security should be firm but friendly and rave-experienced.
> 
> AND THEY'D BETTER NOT TAKE MY WATTER BOTTLE!
> 
> I DONT WANNA GO TO NO SHADY FUNERAL
my funeral won't be shady at all!
FREE WATER!
and oldskool lighting like a black light and some old tvs
and TJ RICHTER WILL NOT BE PERFORMING
although he is welcome to attend

and paul johnson will do a special "death remix"  for me...

"micah is down down down down down down down down down down down down down
down down underground"

doodoootoodoo!

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 The number one cause of drug overdose is not too much of a drug. It almost
always has too do with the substances the drug is cut with. Of course, this
only really started with drug prohibition. It's estimated that cocaine is
cut 6 times or more as it passes from the grower/distributor to the user,
and may only end up to be 10% cocaine and the rest cut. Not only that, but
because overdoses are many times with illegal substances, those friends near
the victim are afraid to seek professional help for fear of arrest.
  The drug war is killing people, and not only that but guess who brings
more drugs into this country than any other group... that's right.... the US
GOVERNMENT (don't believe me then do some research yourself). The drug war
is a war against freedom, it's a war against you and me. Don't believe
puppets like Clinton who make statements like "we need to rethink the drug
policy in this country.", when the whole time he has filled the prisons with
non-violent drug users. Demand action!
  Think about this.... America has more people in prison than any other
country. The largest percentage of prisoners are convicted on charges
related to drugs. The largest percentage of that group is non-violent drug
offenders. So America has more people in prison, who did nothing to hurt
anyone but themselves, than any other country. That's FUCKED UP. That's not
freedom.
  I'll get off my soapbox now, but just remember we all have a role to play.
We shouldn't just accept things as they are because that's the way they are.

onelove.
Noble

"A new paradigm is emerging, understanding over ignorance...."

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:23 AM
To: Tony Sebion; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [mw] RE: [RE: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]]



>someone wanted to
>know if we had any pixy sticks to sell 'cuz he wanted to pour sugar
down
>this unresponsive person's throat... we didn't, but i didn't think it
>sounded like a good idea anyway.

"who put COOKIES in his mouth?!  you're not supposed to do that!!"

mk
________________________________________________________________________
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michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org
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> OOH ME ME ME!
> 
> do i count?
yes you count cuase you're sending the emails. when it really comes down
to it, ONLY WE COUNT!!!! MW-RAVES IS AT OUR MERCEY!!!!!!

> 
> it doesnt seem they are too excited heather.
> 
> we try and please people and they just ignore us, this is the thanks we get?
> 
> fuckers
> 
it's ok! they're at our mercey!!!

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> YO CHRIS!!! YOU GOTSA LEAVE YO WATER AT THE DOOR AND BUY MY BABIE'S 10
> DOLLAR A BOTTLE MICAH WATER.
before im dead, and still have a say in this
i must request that this be a donation only event and that water be free

ATTENTION!
MY FUNERAL WILL HAVE A CHILL ROOM!

we'll call it "the viewing chamber"

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see micah! that's 2 votes now! we're on our way! thanks michael!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT MICAH'S DEFICATION!!
> 
> mk
> 
> At 11:44 AM 1/10/2001 -0600, heather wrote:
> 
> >well we can talk in private about how you want your body "defiled" unless
> >other list members would like to hear about it! ANYONE???? IF YOU WANNA
> >HEAR ABOUT MICAH'S DEFILING, SEND AN EMAIL TO THE LIST!
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
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i was gonna tell you to leave the planning to me but the whole paul
johnson tihing sounds funny. so carry on and plan your funeral!

> my funeral won't be shady at all!
> FREE WATER!
> and oldskool lighting like a black light and some old tvs
> and TJ RICHTER WILL NOT BE PERFORMING
> although he is welcome to attend
> 
> and paul johnson will do a special "death remix"  for me...
> 
> "micah is down down down down down down down down down down down down down
> down down underground"
> 
> doodoootoodoo!
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Nader Wants Internet Control
by Declan McCullagh and Nicholas Morehead

8:25 a.m. Jan. 10, 2001 PST
WASHINGTON -- To most people, the Internet is a way to communicate, an
untapped business opportunity, or a
symbol of dot-com greed run amok.

Not so Ralph Nader. The former Green Party presidential candidate sees
an opportunity for a new global
bureaucracy.

On Tuesday, Nader called for the creation of a "World Consumer
Protection Organization," comparable to the
United Nations' World Intellectual Property Organization, only "more
democratically run."

Nader, at a National Press Club event, said the proposed WCPO would
focus on regulation of privacy, e-commerce,
intellectual property, antitrust and Internet governance -- areas he
said affected consumers directly.

"The technology of the Internet is far ahead of any legal framework, any
ethical framework or global framework,"
Nader said. "Are we going to be left with self-regulatory standards set
and implemented by individual companies?
Are we going to be left with standards set by the Better Business Bureau
as a last resort?"

Another justification: Fraud. During the panel discussion organized by
Forbes magazine, Nader said a recent Harris
poll showed that 6 million Americans felt that they were "somehow
defrauded" on the Internet during 2000.

The odds of a WCPO being created anytime soon, of course, range between
zero and infinitesimal.

In an era where the U.S. shies away from paying its U.N. dues because of
ongoing hostility from conservatives,
Republicans are hardly likely to embrace a new international
organization that has Internet regulation as its sole
purpose. And Capitol Hill's reaction to a U.N. proposal that recommended
taxing all e-mail was uniformly negative.

"A business-hating authoritarian like Nader doesn't really want a U.N.
for privacy," says Wayne Crews, director of
information policy at the libertarian Cato Institute. "He would be most
content simply dictating policy himself."

"But knowing the hostility of many other nations toward an Americanized
Internet with more open attitudes toward
privacy and commerce, he's perfectly happy to allow them to help carry
the water," Crews says.

But free-market types, oddly enough for an event organized by Forbes,
weren't invited. Forbes ASAP co-sponsors
an annual Technology and Society conference that's critical of
regulation.

Instead, the reactions from the other two panelists ranged from neutral
to enthusiastic.

"The crime is not new," said Piyush Gupta, founder and CEO of
LiquidPrice.com, a site that allows buyers to search
for and purchase brand-name items from pre-approved retailers. "The
troubling fact is that efficiency of the Web
allows for these scams to scale dramatically."

Gupta said he foresaw "dark clouds on the horizon," and echoed Nader's
remarks about the problems of online
fraud.

In the United States, the Federal Trade Commission has taken the lead in
combating Internet fraud.

An IBM representative also called for additional government
intervention. "There is no magic bullet here," said
David Allison, IBM's worldwide director of e-business strategy. "We have
to think of it in more of a management
perspective rather than a technological one.

"Business has to ante up. Consumers have to do their part and get
educated, and the government has to get
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an<BR>untapped business opportunity, or a<BR>symbol of dot-com greed run 
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> I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT MICAH'S DEFICATION!!

mw-raves fills me with the urge to deficate

i had subway today, vegimax to be exacts

so i'll keep you updated

i REALLY need a webcam at work

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> ATTENTION!
> MY FUNERAL WILL HAVE A CHILL ROOM!
> 
> we'll call it "the viewing chamber"

    I'm gonna start an e-puddle in there just for you micah.

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>  The number one cause of drug overdose is not too much of a 
> drug. It almost
actually dumbass
the term "DRUG OVERDOSE" means exactly that OVERDOSAGE OF DRUG.
now adverse reactions to drugs, due to interactions or any other criteria
qualify it as another problem altogether
but OVERDOSE means MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE

fucker

>   I'll get off my soapbox now, but just remember we all have 
> a role to play.
> We shouldn't just accept things as they are because that's 
> the way they are.
yeah its much better to whine to a rave list about how bad drugs are
i love you pseudo-revolutionaries that preach to the converted to feel like
they are doing something

i take that back i dont love you. 

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> > YO CHRIS!!! YOU GOTSA LEAVE YO WATER AT THE DOOR AND BUY MY BABIE'S 10
> > DOLLAR A BOTTLE MICAH WATER.
> before im dead, and still have a say in this
> i must request that this be a donation only event and that water be free
> 
> ATTENTION!
> MY FUNERAL WILL HAVE A CHILL ROOM!
> 
> we'll call it "the viewing chamber"

can i give your corpse a backrub?

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> > ATTENTION!
> > MY FUNERAL WILL HAVE A CHILL ROOM!
> > 
> > we'll call it "the viewing chamber"
> 
>     I'm gonna start an e-puddle in there just for you micah.
don't make me rise from the dead....again

(look at me playing saviour...thats for all you stevie t fans)

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> i was gonna tell you to leave the planning to me but the whole paul
> johnson tihing sounds funny. so carry on and plan your funeral!
no i just have a few requests
i'll be dead, you dont have to listen to my suggestions at all, im not
REALLY gonna care
im pretty laidback for a deadguy			

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From mw-raves-return-13688-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 18:18:27 2001
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well i've taken your requests into consideration. 

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > i was gonna tell you to leave the planning to me but the whole paul
> > johnson tihing sounds funny. so carry on and plan your funeral!
> no i just have a few requests
> i'll be dead, you dont have to listen to my suggestions at all, im not
> REALLY gonna care
> im pretty laidback for a deadguy			
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coca cola in excess tends to make one selfish, avoid this
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From mw-raves-return-13689-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 18:20:05 2001
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Alright. let's get technical biyatch. A cocaine/heroin overdose is almost
never the result of too much cocaine/heroin... it's the cut. GOT IT? Other
substances alcohol/GHB do play a part...

psuedo-revolutionaries? you think all I do is preach to mw-raves? You are
kidding yourself! I am very active in trying to change things.

Noble

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>  The number one cause of drug overdose is not too much of a 
> drug. It almost
actually dumbass
the term "DRUG OVERDOSE" means exactly that OVERDOSAGE OF DRUG.
now adverse reactions to drugs, due to interactions or any other criteria
qualify it as another problem altogether
but OVERDOSE means MORE THAN YOU CAN HANDLE

fucker

>   I'll get off my soapbox now, but just remember we all have 
> a role to play.
> We shouldn't just accept things as they are because that's 
> the way they are.
yeah its much better to whine to a rave list about how bad drugs are
i love you pseudo-revolutionaries that preach to the converted to feel like
they are doing something

i take that back i dont love you. 

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> i REALLY need a webcam at work

say the word, bucko, and i'll add you to the #mw.cam portal. 










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Subject: [mw] paging the pussy, micah

are you going tonite biatch?

if you want me to, i'll come over and play nice, and pick you up... and
then spank you.

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> > i REALLY need a webcam at work
> 
> say the word, bucko, and i'll add you to the #mw.cam portal. 
wow if i could get a webcam of me at work of me and my defication...
i'd be a movie star!

maybe i should get one for home...
ahh hthe possibilities

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> wow if i could get a webcam of me at work of me and my defication...
> i'd be a movie star!
> maybe i should get one for home...
> ahh hthe possibilities

yes, because we definitely need more of us morons making stupid faces and
showing bodyparts live in one place. more!!!







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alright let's get technical mr prescription,
   a cocaine/heroin OVERDOSE is ALWAYS the result of too much cocaine/heroin
too much is relative to what your body can handle, but the interaction
between that drug and what it is cut with may be what is causing
the side effects that are similar to an overdose
OR you may be overdosing on what it is cut with, as many drugs must be taken
in EXTREMELY small amounts to be safe.
but then you aren't od'ing on cocaine/heroin
to be TECHNICAL there snoop

> Alright. let's get technical biyatch. A cocaine/heroin 
> overdose is almost
> never the result of too much cocaine/heroin... it's the cut. 
> GOT IT? Other
> substances alcohol/GHB do play a part...

> psuedo-revolutionaries? you think all I do is preach to 
> mw-raves? You are
> kidding yourself! I am very active in trying to change things.
very active in TRYING

sorry if i am one of those people that thinks we should have revolutions
within ourselves and not try and change everyone else.
live what you wanna live but don't assume you KNOW what is best for others

> a non-apathetic list member
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> are you going tonite biatch?
to the activ8 shindig?
its still up in the air
but i've been known to frequent seedy establishments such as sirens


> if you want me to, i'll come over and play nice, and pick you 
> up... and
> then spank you.
if so i will see you there as i will prolly take a nap first and get a ride
with a friend that MIGHT be going


but its prolly 90% a yes to that question

there are a couple things i dont want to miss about this night
plans....ahhh what wondrous plans

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OR you may be overdosing on what it is cut with, as many drugs must be taken
in EXTREMELY small amounts to be safe.

^^^^^this was my whole point, do you really know anyone that has overdosed
on pure marijuana, pure heroin, pure cocaine, pure mdma? And when I say
overdose, I mean to the point of death not just freaking out or a bad
interaction. 

did we really have to go there?

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alright let's get technical mr prescription,
   a cocaine/heroin OVERDOSE is ALWAYS the result of too much cocaine/heroin
too much is relative to what your body can handle, but the interaction
between that drug and what it is cut with may be what is causing
the side effects that are similar to an overdose
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but then you aren't od'ing on cocaine/heroin
to be TECHNICAL there snoop

> Alright. let's get technical biyatch. A cocaine/heroin 
> overdose is almost
> never the result of too much cocaine/heroin... it's the cut. 
> GOT IT? Other
> substances alcohol/GHB do play a part...

> psuedo-revolutionaries? you think all I do is preach to 
> mw-raves? You are
> kidding yourself! I am very active in trying to change things.
very active in TRYING

sorry if i am one of those people that thinks we should have revolutions
within ourselves and not try and change everyone else.
live what you wanna live but don't assume you KNOW what is best for others

> a non-apathetic list member
a non-pathetic list member

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: The Green Party is not your friend

Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take everything
they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your ass,
oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where everyone
will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or worse
than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing e-mail?
Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for president?
I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him then?





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i'd be happy with daily courtroom sketches.

but i'm easy to please,
-t

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i REALLY need a webcam at work

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I know. How many people supported him for his stance on drug legalization
(the Libertarian Party is far more progressive) and the environment, yet
have no clue about the rest?

Noble


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Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take everything
they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your ass,
oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where everyone
will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or worse
than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing e-mail?
Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for president?
I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him then?





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From mw-raves-return-13700-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 18:42:59 2001
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and here is my point dickhead:

  its fun to fuck with you because you are so fucking unsettled with
yourself that you will do anything to try and affirm
that you are either A) right or B) important.
you don't listen to people enough, you probably can't even fucking read.
my original post was meant to agree with your own but in a very attacking
manner
and you reacted emotionally and had to go get all pissy instead of reading
what was there

> ^^^^^this was my whole point, do you really know anyone that 
> has overdosed
> on pure marijuana, pure heroin, pure cocaine, pure mdma? And 
> when I say
> overdose, I mean to the point of death not just freaking out or a bad
> interaction. 
how many people do you know that have shot up pure heroin,
and i don't know anyone but i know that lots of people DO die from oding on
pure cocaine,
and i dont know many people that have gotten PURE mdma

do you have any idea how little pure cocaine it would take to put you in
cardiac arrest?
cocaine is NOT a good foothold for your pointless argument


love,
  my ass

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oh don't be so hard on him micah.  he's really helped me!  i'm sitting here
with like a pound of china white and i was gonna shoot the whole thing up
but now i'm considering that it might not be cut with anything at all.

mw-raves is an education!
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do you have any idea how little pure cocaine it would take to put you in
cardiac arrest?
cocaine is NOT a good foothold for your pointless argument


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> i'd be happy with daily courtroom sketches.
what if i get a characiturist(hows that spelling?)
 to sit in my cube all work and watch me find a million things to do besides
work?
and i'll set him up with a scanner or a wacom tablet or something so we can
upload the pics, rotating once an hour, on some site.

that or a really well trained monkey and a crayon

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> Alright. let's get technical biyatch. A
> cocaine/heroin overdose is almost
> never the result of too much cocaine/heroin... it's
> the cut. 

but it is still an OVERdosage of the cut. that's the
point. it doesn't really matter WHAT it's an overdose
of, it's the fact that you, knowingly or unknowingly,
put more of some substance in your body than your body
can handle.

why are you arguing this, anyway?

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From mw-raves-return-13704-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 18:51:22 2001
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> ^^^^^this was my whole point, do you really know
> anyone that has overdosed
> on pure marijuana, pure heroin, pure cocaine, pure
> mdma? 

i'm sorry, what was your point again? if your point
was that no one ever overdoses on a pure mixture of a
substance, then why again were you making that point?

> did we really have to go there?

i hate that it's reduced to this, but: you started it
;]
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>Nader Wants Internet Control

you could take out "internet" and insert "*" where "*" would be the 
wildcard signifying everything under the fucking sun.  what else do you 
expect from the man that wants to turn the united states into a socialist 
republic?  thank god that americans, by and large, are not stupid enough to 
vote for this guy.

>And Capitol Hill's reaction to a U.N. proposal that recommended
>taxing all e-mail was uniformly negative.

hey!  didn't they know that was a hoax!?

mk

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  you made the first emotional reaction, not I. I don't claim to know
everything. I was just passing on information I know to be true based on my
experience/research. Yes, you can die from too much cocaine, you can also
die from too much caffiene, chocolate, meatloaf, water, or even oxygen. I
guess I should've stated in the first place that I was talking about
recommended doses. People who take the recommended dose and still overdose,
generally are dying from too much poison the shit is cut with.
  And why do drug dealers cut drugs? Greed. And that is a direct result of
the demand for drugs in the underground blackmarket due to drug prohibition.
Would you disagree with that statement? Let's not argue about the details.

Noble

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and here is my point dickhead:

  its fun to fuck with you because you are so fucking unsettled with
yourself that you will do anything to try and affirm
that you are either A) right or B) important.
you don't listen to people enough, you probably can't even fucking read.
my original post was meant to agree with your own but in a very attacking
manner
and you reacted emotionally and had to go get all pissy instead of reading
what was there

> ^^^^^this was my whole point, do you really know anyone that 
> has overdosed
> on pure marijuana, pure heroin, pure cocaine, pure mdma? And 
> when I say
> overdose, I mean to the point of death not just freaking out or a bad
> interaction. 
how many people do you know that have shot up pure heroin,
and i don't know anyone but i know that lots of people DO die from oding on
pure cocaine,
and i dont know many people that have gotten PURE mdma

do you have any idea how little pure cocaine it would take to put you in
cardiac arrest?
cocaine is NOT a good foothold for your pointless argument


love,
  my ass

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>oh don't be so hard on him micah.  he's really helped me!  i'm sitting here
>with like a pound of china white and i was gonna shoot the whole thing up
>but now i'm considering that it might not be cut with anything at all.

lol!!!  your place of employment is fairly lax, sir!  ;P

"and even if it's good i'll sniff it all up in a minute,
  beep you back and complain that you put too much cut in it!
  and if you fall for that, and give me a new sack,
  i'll be makin' more crazy faces than jim carrey on crack!"

necro rules,
mk
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My point is when you are buying drugs on the street, how do you know how
much cut you are getting and how much pure substance is there? You don't and
therefore you are taking a risk everytime.

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> Alright. let's get technical biyatch. A
> cocaine/heroin overdose is almost
> never the result of too much cocaine/heroin... it's
> the cut. 

but it is still an OVERdosage of the cut. that's the
point. it doesn't really matter WHAT it's an overdose
of, it's the fact that you, knowingly or unknowingly,
put more of some substance in your body than your body
can handle.

why are you arguing this, anyway?

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i heard that a lot of people's NYE's were ruined because of drug underdoses.

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first of all, im glad you've awakened to realize that usa is not a free 
country...but unfortunately, its been like that for years.  second of all, i 
havent exactly sought out any help for my coffee or cigarette addictions, and 
i may never.  so even if its legal, and people are addicted, people dont get 
help.  why were you feeding anti drug war propoganda  to ravers, anyhow?  i 
am confused in this world of blue.  cheers, aaron.

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> can i give your corpse a backrub?
rigor mortis is a bitch on your muscles i hear

no seebreezes tho

unless i look to be rolling REEALLLY HARD

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>   you made the first emotional reaction, not I. I don't claim to know
> everything. I was just passing on information I know to be 
> true based on my
> experience/research. Yes, you can die from too much cocaine, 
> you can also
> die from too much caffiene, chocolate, meatloaf, water, or 
> even oxygen. I
> guess I should've stated in the first place that I was talking about
> recommended doses. People who take the recommended dose and 
> still overdose,
> generally are dying from too much poison the shit is cut with.
>   And why do drug dealers cut drugs? Greed. And that is a 
> direct result of
> the demand for drugs in the underground blackmarket due to 
> drug prohibition.
> Would you disagree with that statement? Let's not argue about 
> the details.

yer cute, really you are.
my first comment was most assuredly not emotional, it was BAIT
and nothing more.
your experience and research is that people do drugs and they are cut with
stuff that may not be high in fiber?
thanks almighty

recommended dosage of illegal street substances?
how much cocaine is part of my 2000 calorie diet?

why do drug dealers cut drugs? greed?

so drug dealer greed(only some mind you i know many pleasant dealers) is a
DIRECT result of drug prohibition?

so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy?
i would disagree with that statement

i dont think greed is born of circumstance, its something you bring to the
table


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you could take out "internet" and insert "*" where "*" would be the wildcard
signifying everything under the fucking sun.  what else do you expect from
the man that wants to turn the united states into a socialist republic?   
[Noble Long] 
But, the republicrats and demopublicans want the same thing, only in a more
subtle (therefore more dangerous) way.
 
Read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and see how close to these
goals, this country is.
 



 

 	 
1	 Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land
to public purpose
We call it property taxes and the BLM.	
2	 A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
We call it the IRS and "paying your fair share".	
3	 Abolition of all right of inheritance.
We call it estate, income and inheritance taxes.	
4	 Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
We call it government seizures, tax liens etc.	
5	 Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a
national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
We call it the Federal Reserve.	
6	 Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the
hands of the State.
We call it the FCC and Department of Transportation.	
7	 Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the
State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of
the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
We call it corporate capacit, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of
Agriculture.	
8	 Equal Liability of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial
armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor.

9	 Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual
abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable
distributpopulation over the country.
We call it Planning and Zoning and Super Corporate Farms.	
10	 Free education for all childrenin public schools. Abolition of
children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with
industrial production, etc., etc.
We call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based Education.

 	 
 
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not after you.
 
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  <DIV>you could take out "internet" and insert "*" where "*" would be the 
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  <DIV><SPAN class=440410321-10012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But, 
  the republicrats and demopublicans want the same thing, only in a more 
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  <DIV><SPAN class=440410321-10012001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Read 
  the 10 planks&nbsp;of the communist manifesto and see how close to these 
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            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Abolition of property 
              in land and application of all rents of land to public 
              purpose<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><EM>We call it 
              property taxes and the BLM.</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
          <TR>
            <TD><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=5>2</FONT></TD>
            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>A heavy progressive or 
              graduated income tax.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><EM>We 
              call it the IRS and "paying your fair 
          share".</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
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            <TD><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=5>3</FONT></TD>
            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Abolition of all right 
              of inheritance.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><EM>We call it 
              estate, income and inheritance taxes.</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
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            <TD><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=5>4</FONT></TD>
            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Confiscation of the 
              property of all emigrants and rebels.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana 
              size=2><EM>We call it government seizures, tax liens 
              etc.</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
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            <TD><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=5>5</FONT></TD>
            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Centralization of 
              credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with 
              State capital and an exclusive monopoly.<BR></FONT><FONT 
              face=Verdana size=2><EM>We call it the Federal 
              Reserve.</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
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            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Centralization of the 
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            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Extension of factories 
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              into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil 
              generally in accordance with a common plan.<BR></FONT><FONT 
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            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Equal Liability of all 
              to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for 
              agriculture.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><EM>We call it 
              the Social Security Administration and The Department of 
              Labor.</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
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            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Combination of 
              agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of 
              the distinction between town and country by a more equable 
              distributpopulation over the country.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana 
              size=2><EM>We call it Planning and Zoning and Super Corporate 
              Farms.</EM></FONT></FONT></TD></TR>
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            <TD><FONT color=#000080><FONT face=Verdana>Free education for all 
              childrenin public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor 
              in its present form. Combination of education with industrial 
              production, etc., etc.<BR></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2><EM>We 
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> My point is when you are buying drugs on the street,
> how do you know how
> much cut you are getting and how much pure substance
> is there? You don't and
> therefore you are taking a risk everytime.

no shit? tell me something i didn't learn 8 years ago
*before* i first started putting illegal substances
into my body...granted, not every person has that much
forethought, but i can pretty much guarantee you, hon,
that the people who do still need to know this aren't
listening anymore.

they're to busy snorting ajax trying to get a buzz.
pixie

afterthought: you're taking a risk putting narcotic
substances in your body anyway, regardless of whether
and what it's cut with. DUH.


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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:09:46 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
>
>why do drug dealers cut drugs? greed?
>so drug dealer greed(only some mind you i know many pleasant dealers) is a
>DIRECT result of drug prohibition?
>so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy?
>i would disagree with that statement
>i dont think greed is born of circumstance, its something you bring to the
>table


I think he means that if drugs were legal, they would
be regulated, and pure drugs would be available in
stores rather than from greedy dealers on the street.

Your aspirin isn't cut.  And if it is, it just harmless starch,
and you still get the amount of aspirin that the
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	- Joe


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>recommended dosage of illegal street substances?
>how much cocaine is part of my 2000 calorie diet?

most people know that a line or two of coke won't kill them (unless it isn't
really coke!)

>why do drug dealers cut drugs? greed?

>so drug dealer greed(only some mind you i know many pleasant dealers) is a
>DIRECT result of drug prohibition?

yes it is, before drug prohibition, drugs were readily available, therefore
cheap and addicts were not dependent on a few source in an underground
blackmarket to get their supply. Do pharmaceutical cut their drugs without
the knowledge of the consumer? No. Because, they have to answer to the
consumer. Who do illegal drug dealers answer to? How many times have you
heard of the Better Business Bureau getting a complaint that   "Bob" on the
corner was selling tainted drugs? 

>so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy? 

No, the fact that they can make more cutting their drugs, because of
prohibition, makes them greedy. It's all about supply and demand.

>i would disagree with that statement

>i dont think greed is born of circumstance, its something you bring to the
>table

I agree with that, but circumstance leads to the action, irrevelant of the
preconcieved intent. 


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>Read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and see how close to these 
>goals, this country is

i think you're making a pretty big leap on a few of these.  altho if i was 
an extremist libertarian i'd probably agree with you.

mk, thinks we need less government-parenting, but doesn't think we're ready 
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mr. keller,

the green party may not be your friend, but please don't make any
assumptions as to its friendship with others.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:

> Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take everything
> they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
> internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your ass,
> oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
> nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where everyone
> will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or worse
> than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing e-mail?
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Thank you, Joe. That was exactly my point. 

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:09:46 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
>
>why do drug dealers cut drugs? greed?
>so drug dealer greed(only some mind you i know many pleasant dealers) is a
>DIRECT result of drug prohibition?
>so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy?
>i would disagree with that statement
>i dont think greed is born of circumstance, its something you bring to the
>table


I think he means that if drugs were legal, they would
be regulated, and pure drugs would be available in
stores rather than from greedy dealers on the street.

Your aspirin isn't cut.  And if it is, it just harmless starch,
and you still get the amount of aspirin that the
label says in in each pill.

	- Joe


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> I think he means that if drugs were legal, they would
> be regulated, and pure drugs would be available in
> stores rather than from greedy dealers on the street.
oh well according to noble the government IS greedy
and you are replacing one evil with another
ask him, everyones out to get him
hes done research

the greed is NOT what is causing people to use dangerous substances to cut
things
THAT was his argument, and you didnt even touch on it

> Your aspirin isn't cut.  And if it is, it just harmless starch,
> and you still get the amount of aspirin that the
> label says in in each pill.
that is true.
you are correct on your statements, its the leap of reasoning where you BOTH
faulter

how does anyone know that the cutting is causing more deaths than people
that were given
STRAIGHT cocaine or heroin or mdma or anything?
its when it is cut with DANGEROUS things, and when it is cut with things
that can be taken in those doses
it is HELPING to keep the ravers from doing more of the actual drug

if i put baking soda with my coke and sell it as uncut, they will do say 2
lines
if i make it pure they will STILL do two lines, regardless

we don't know and i don't care

sturgeon general 

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> >wow if i could get a webcam of me at work of me and my defication...
> 
> i think it is obvious that we'd all be more than willing to 
> put up with 
> your crap.
hahahaha
you are all saints for doing so when its just text!

i'll see what i can do

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> > can i give your corpse a backrub?
> rigor mortis is a bitch on your muscles i hear
> 
> no seebreezes tho
> 
> unless i look to be rolling REEALLLY HARD

seeing how you'll probably die of a not-overdose of taking too much
"cut" that somebody sold you as E, a seabreeze will probably be in order.


btw, anyone know where I can score some cut?  i hear that shit fucks you
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i heard that "ecstacy" is really a combination of cocaine and 
heroin!!!  THAT'S CRAZY!!!

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> oh don't be so hard on him micah.  he's really helped me!  
> i'm sitting here
> with like a pound of china white and i was gonna shoot the 
> whole thing up
> but now i'm considering that it might not be cut with anything at all.

you said "hard on"
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> most people know that a line or two of coke won't
> kill them (unless it isn't
> really coke!)

okay, nimrod. have you considered the simple and often
overlooked fact that any substance can affect any
person in a number of ways. a line or two  of *pure*
coke may not kill me or you, but there are certainly
people out there who's body chemistry is vastly
different, and who could die before the first line was
finished.

pure or not.
get a PhD, then we'll talk.
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This sounds like someone is twisting
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Large companies -should- be accountable.

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Declan McCullagh and Nicholas Morehead -
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dear mr wizard,
  
> most people know that a line or two of coke won't kill them 
> (unless it isn't
> really coke!)
actually a line or two of pure coke would probably kill you
refined cocaine is AMAZINGLY potent
lightweight

> yes it is, before drug prohibition, drugs were readily 
> available, therefore
> cheap and addicts were not dependent on a few source in an underground
> blackmarket to get their supply. Do pharmaceutical cut their 
> drugs without
> the knowledge of the consumer? No. Because, they have to answer to the
> consumer. Who do illegal drug dealers answer to? How many 
> times have you
> heard of the Better Business Bureau getting a complaint that  
>  "Bob" on the
> corner was selling tainted drugs? 
uhhh well
i would say that drug dealers deal with the consumer on a more personal
level than pharmaceutical companies do asswipe
COMPANY deals with organizaions, a mediary between them and the PEOPLE
DEALER deals with PEOPLE, and relies heavily on reputation and not getting
dead

> >so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy? 
> No, the fact that they can make more cutting their drugs, because of
> prohibition, makes them greedy. It's all about supply and demand.
actually, i know QUITE a few people that would buy more drugs if they were
assured of the quality
than those without
and that isnt even a result of cutting with dangerous substances, even if
they were cut with harmless substances
or not refined to that high a degree or an alternate method of preperation
was taken
it limits the quality.

> >i dont think greed is born of circumstance, its something 
> you bring to the
> >table
> I agree with that, but circumstance leads to the action, 
> irrevelant of the
> preconcieved intent. 
circumstance is the ENVIRONMENT for actions, not the CATALYST

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you know i always vote monkey.

they call it deborax cox,
-t

ps - i used to go to mcdonalds and ask for job applications with my friends
and we'd fill them out in crayon and turn them back in.  yes i realize
that's very juvenile.  it still makes me laugh.

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that or a really well trained monkey and a crayon

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>wow if i could get a webcam of me at work of me and my defication...

i think it is obvious that we'd all be more than willing to put up with 
your crap.

mk
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:33:31 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:

>how does anyone know that the cutting is causing more deaths than people
>that were given STRAIGHT cocaine or heroin or mdma or anything?

Hey, I'm not agreeing necessarily.  I was just clarifying a point.
I hadn't read the entire thread yet (still haven't).

DUH!, to the fact that in an overdose situation
it's the drug, not the cut.  For example - morphine.
Legal (for medical use), professionally manufactured.
People OD all the time if used improperly.

However, when it comes to drug death statistics,
the govt. tends to consider a death a "drug related"
death, simply from finding a drug in your system.  
That's where things are skewed.

Either way, people should be free to do drugs if
the want.  As long as they are not driving, hunting,
flying planes, etc. while they are high.  If it kills them,
that's their fucking problem.  The least we can do
is make it as safe as possible by making it legal
so that they are manufactured in factories by
professionals and regulated, rather than by
Hell's Angels in a bathtub or some college
kid who hasn't even finished his chemistry class yet.

	- Joe

PS: Concerning addiction - that is a personality problem.
If it wasn't drugs, it would be sex, gambling or something else.


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Keywords being MOST PEOPLE

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> most people know that a line or two of coke won't
> kill them (unless it isn't
> really coke!)

okay, nimrod. have you considered the simple and often
overlooked fact that any substance can affect any
person in a number of ways. a line or two  of *pure*
coke may not kill me or you, but there are certainly
people out there who's body chemistry is vastly
different, and who could die before the first line was
finished.

pure or not.
get a PhD, then we'll talk.
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>> YOU LEAVE THE PLANNING TO ME BUSTER!!!!
>are you organizing security and festivities or the defiling?
>or does the defiling and festivities overlap?

>i SO want my dead body "defiled"
>it sounds like fun

Why even be dead?  I wanna be defiled while I can still enjoy it...

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Okie, two things:

1.  Every chemical, taken in sufficiant amounts, can kill you.  That's
the way things are.

2.  Don't give anything to unresponsive people.  Period.  If they aren't
conscious, they can't swallow it anyway and when they regain
consciousness, they'll choke on it.  Call the paramedics and turn them on
their side (in case they throw up, so they don't choke on it).

Just some handy hints from someone trained in first aid.

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> you know i always vote monkey.
> 
> they call it deborax cox,
> -t
> 
> ps - i used to go to mcdonalds and ask for job applications 
> with my friends
> and we'd fill them out in crayon and turn them back in.  yes i realize
> that's very juvenile.  it still makes me laugh.
SO DEMEANING!
SO HORRIBLE!
im impressed!

if'n i get a monkey to crayon my picture, i'll let she/he visit you on
weekends to be unruly

promise

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> I hadn't read the entire thread yet (still haven't).
DON'T!
SAVE YOURSELF!

> DUH!, to the fact that in an overdose situation
> it's the drug, not the cut.  For example - morphine.
> Legal (for medical use), professionally manufactured.
> People OD all the time if used improperly.
> 
> However, when it comes to drug death statistics,
> the govt. tends to consider a death a "drug related"
> death, simply from finding a drug in your system.  
> That's where things are skewed.
right, and this goes to crazy lengths
tony pointed out to me, when he was on contract with the company i work for
that they do the same thing
even with alcohol, anything in your system makes it drug related and their
insurance doesn't cover anything drug related
if i drink a little and RIDE, not DRIVE in a car, and there is an
accident...no coverage
fucked up eh?

> Either way, people should be free to do drugs if
> the want.  As long as they are not driving, hunting,
> flying planes, etc. while they are high.  If it kills them,
> that's their fucking problem.  The least we can do
> is make it as safe as possible by making it legal
> so that they are manufactured in factories by
> professionals and regulated, rather than by
> Hell's Angels in a bathtub or some college
> kid who hasn't even finished his chemistry class yet.
oh come on!
sometimes hell's angels and chemistry class kids have the best shit yo!


> PS: Concerning addiction - that is a personality problem.
> If it wasn't drugs, it would be sex, gambling or something else.
well...i would agree with those things that are psychologically addictive
like say marijuana
but things like meth, those are PHYSICAL addictions
and a nasty one at that

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>ps - i used to go to mcdonalds and ask for job applications with my friends
>and we'd fill them out in crayon and turn them back in.  yes i realize
>that's very juvenile.  it still makes me laugh.

i had someone apply for a telemarketing job once and under the "special 
skills/office equipment operated" section he put "pen".

mk
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Subject: [mw] socialists, communists and Ralph Nader

Since 3 months ago, my little brother is a card carrying member of the
Green Party. He's part of a group at school called "The Socialist
Alternative" and the Communist Manifesto is his Bible. He's working for
some Socialist organization in Seattle for his winter quarter project. He
believes in creating a true Marxist Communist Utopia.

My parents are conservative Christian Republicans. They attend church at
least 3 times a week. They are Pro-Life, Pro-God and Pro-George Bush and
his school voucher program. My mom hopes my brother will be miserable in
Seattle.

I'm a Democrat. I voted for Gore. I am Pro-Choice and anti school
vouchers. I've done my share of drgus in the past, but don't necessarily
believe in legalizing them. My brother takes every word that comes out of
my mouth as a political statement and belief. Even if it's "I want to
check my email."

My husband isn't even a US citizen. He's German, though West German, he's
seen firsthand how a Communism works or doesn't work. My brother told him
he's full of shit, that East Germany wasn't a true Communist society, but
instead was a Stalinist form of government.


We were all together for Christmas. Imagine the conflict and fun we had...
I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally, dysfunctional family
back.


-- -Becky =)

wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
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> Why even be dead?  I wanna be defiled while I can still enjoy it...
i don't have to request that though, it comes round like a carosel...

oh jyeah dog

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it has to be a male monkey

not a mail monkey, but a boy one.

'cuz a boy monkey named deborax cox is even funnier.

the in-joke goes further in,
-t

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> you know i always vote monkey.
> 
> they call it deborax cox,
> -t
> 
> ps - i used to go to mcdonalds and ask for job applications 
> with my friends
> and we'd fill them out in crayon and turn them back in.  yes i realize
> that's very juvenile.  it still makes me laugh.
SO DEMEANING!
SO HORRIBLE!
im impressed!

if'n i get a monkey to crayon my picture, i'll let she/he visit you on
weekends to be unruly

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>circumstance is the ENVIRONMENT for actions, not the CATALYST

did you make that up or is it a quote?  have you never decided to pursue a 
particular course of action based on certain circumstances in your life?  i 
think this is kinda dumb!

mk, also kinda dumb
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> 2.  Don't give anything to unresponsive people.  Period.  
what about head?

can i give head to an unresponsive person without killing them?


yes...i went there

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i hope i'm standing right next to you the next time i witness someone
passing out @ a party.

love, no teeth,
-t

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> 2.  Don't give anything to unresponsive people.  Period.  
what about head?

can i give head to an unresponsive person without killing them?


yes...i went there

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not missing an opportunity to respond to my own message,

maybe i'll pass out @ the next party i'm at with you.

playing dead,
-t

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i hope i'm standing right next to you the next time i witness someone
passing out @ a party.

love, no teeth,
-t

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> 2.  Don't give anything to unresponsive people.  Period.  
what about head?

can i give head to an unresponsive person without killing them?


yes...i went there


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Subject: Re: [mw] socialists, communists and Ralph Nader

To badly mangle a quote i read (not even sure who it's from), "Experience has
shown us that communism doesn't work.  Pragmatists will reject it because it
doesn't work, but men of words will always have a soft spot for it in their
hearts because it sounds good."

Becky Wangenheim wrote:

> Since 3 months ago, my little brother is a card carrying member of the
> Green Party. He's part of a group at school called "The Socialist
> Alternative" and the Communist Manifesto is his Bible. He's working for
> some Socialist organization in Seattle for his winter quarter project. He
> believes in creating a true Marxist Communist Utopia.
>
> My parents are conservative Christian Republicans. They attend church at
> least 3 times a week. They are Pro-Life, Pro-God and Pro-George Bush and
> his school voucher program. My mom hopes my brother will be miserable in
> Seattle.
>
> I'm a Democrat. I voted for Gore. I am Pro-Choice and anti school
> vouchers. I've done my share of drgus in the past, but don't necessarily
> believe in legalizing them. My brother takes every word that comes out of
> my mouth as a political statement and belief. Even if it's "I want to
> check my email."
>
> My husband isn't even a US citizen. He's German, though West German, he's
> seen firsthand how a Communism works or doesn't work. My brother told him
> he's full of shit, that East Germany wasn't a true Communist society, but
> instead was a Stalinist form of government.
>
> We were all together for Christmas. Imagine the conflict and fun we had...
> I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally, dysfunctional family
> back.
>
> -- -Becky =)
>
> wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
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> >circumstance is the ENVIRONMENT for actions, not the CATALYST
> 
> did you make that up or is it a quote?  have you never 
> decided to pursue a 
> particular course of action based on certain circumstances in 
> your life?  i 
> think this is kinda dumb!

made it up without thinking
now that ive been called on it
i'll make up something new to defend it
here we go:

in all things where we want to find an answer we have to define the point at
which we stop reducing.
like number theory or this.
so we will start with person a being in circumstance a, and not discuss how
he got here.
person a is in the circumstance(the sum of environmental factors) that he
wants drugs
person a brings INTO this circumstance his willingness to put drugs in his
body
person a takes the action, in this case, calling up noble for some pure
coke,  based on his reaction to his environment, or "circumstances"
person a can't handle his coke and dies, this is his new
circumstance/environment, death

my point is that we react to our circumstances and that reaction is our
action and the catalyst is within not without


argue and i'll make something else up

micah

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well duh, i dont want some girl monkey to see my privates
yes i sit at work naked
and i will ship the monkey fed-ex to you so that it gets there not by mail
> 'cuz a boy monkey named deborax cox is even funnier.
definitely
maybe the universe will get confused and you will get the monkey and THEN
you will become
powerful rich famous and all that...

roll roll roll your boat gently down the teens

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please reply to this message w/a number i can reach
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The only way communism works is if it's voluntary. You cannot force people
to be part of the collective. In all the cases were we call a country
communism, China, Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, etc. , what you have
in reality is authoritarianism. You want to see communism in action? Go to
the Farm in Summertown, TN. There are some really great folks down there.

http://www.thefarm.org/

onelove.
Noble

 
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To badly mangle a quote i read (not even sure who it's from), "Experience
has
shown us that communism doesn't work.  Pragmatists will reject it because it
doesn't work, but men of words will always have a soft spot for it in their
hearts because it sounds good."

Becky Wangenheim wrote:

> Since 3 months ago, my little brother is a card carrying member of the
> Green Party. He's part of a group at school called "The Socialist
> Alternative" and the Communist Manifesto is his Bible. He's working for
> some Socialist organization in Seattle for his winter quarter project. He
> believes in creating a true Marxist Communist Utopia.
>
> My parents are conservative Christian Republicans. They attend church at
> least 3 times a week. They are Pro-Life, Pro-God and Pro-George Bush and
> his school voucher program. My mom hopes my brother will be miserable in
> Seattle.
>
> I'm a Democrat. I voted for Gore. I am Pro-Choice and anti school
> vouchers. I've done my share of drgus in the past, but don't necessarily
> believe in legalizing them. My brother takes every word that comes out of
> my mouth as a political statement and belief. Even if it's "I want to
> check my email."
>
> My husband isn't even a US citizen. He's German, though West German, he's
> seen firsthand how a Communism works or doesn't work. My brother told him
> he's full of shit, that East Germany wasn't a true Communist society, but
> instead was a Stalinist form of government.
>
> We were all together for Christmas. Imagine the conflict and fun we had...
> I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally, dysfunctional family
> back.
>
> -- -Becky =)
>
> wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
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From mw-raves-return-13749-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 20:25:12 2001
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> not missing an opportunity to respond to my own message,
i love my work email because i got this reply and i still have yet to get
the original tony-post

> maybe i'll pass out @ the next party i'm at with you.
we're gonna have to drink more than we did at new years, but you never know
maybe someone will cut the rum'n'coke with some kinda pcp or something

> playing dead,
now ROLL over


tonsil ticklin

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> Keywords being MOST PEOPLE
ahh yes well...
that is true, and i dont think pixie argued with that...
but how does anyone know they can handle that much coke until they try it?
you can't
you said most people KNOW
she said some people can't handle it even to get to the knowing

you can get dead the first time
just like pregnancy, except thats conception not death, but its the same!

bitches in the living room gettin it on 

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From mw-raves-return-13751-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 20:30:51 2001
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keywords being "most people know."

as opposed to the other people who don't know that
"two lines of coke won't kill you." which is what you
were saying.

which has nothing to do with whether or not those
poeple know if they posses a body chemistry which will
react differently than most people.

hukt awn foniks werked fer mee. iht kan werk fer yoo
two.
dumbass.
pixie


--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> Keywords being MOST PEOPLE
> 
> 
> > most people know that a line or two of coke won't
> > kill them (unless it isn't
> > really coke!)
> 
> okay, nimrod. have you considered the simple and
> often
> overlooked fact that any substance can affect any
> person in a number of ways. a line or two  of *pure*
> coke may not kill me or you, but there are certainly
> people out there who's body chemistry is vastly
> different, and who could die before the first line
> was
> finished.
> 
> pure or not.
> get a PhD, then we'll talk.
> pixie


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Well, I don't think you have to try things first hand to know them. Most
people know they can handle a few lines, because of the experiences of
others. If we had to learn everything by making mistakes firsthand, we would
still be in the stone age.

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> Keywords being MOST PEOPLE
ahh yes well...
that is true, and i dont think pixie argued with that...
but how does anyone know they can handle that much coke until they try it?
you can't
you said most people KNOW
she said some people can't handle it even to get to the knowing

you can get dead the first time
just like pregnancy, except thats conception not death, but its the same!

bitches in the living room gettin it on 

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> I think he means that if drugs were legal, they would
> be regulated, and pure drugs would be available in
> stores rather than from greedy dealers on the street.
oh well according to noble the government IS greedy
and you are replacing one evil with another
ask him, everyones out to get him
hes done research

I love assumptions! You assume that I think the government is greedy. You
would be right about that. But, you also assume that I want the government
to regulate drugs. I don't. Personally, I think th FDA is a bureaucratic
nightmare. They categorize pot and heroin in the same category, allow
aspartame to be added as a diet substitute for sugar, and hold back many
drugs already in use in other countries (because of fear of releasing an
unsafe substance) that could be preventing death for many people in the
meantime. Have you ever heard of a non-governmental organization like UL
(Underwriters Laboratory), which has been making the world safer for years?

the greed is NOT what is causing people to use dangerous substances to cut
things
THAT was his argument, and you didnt even touch on it

If greed is not causing people to cut illegal drugs, then tell me what is?
Is it that they are concerned that you may not be able to handle the pure
stuff?


> Your aspirin isn't cut.  And if it is, it just harmless starch,
> and you still get the amount of aspirin that the
> label says in in each pill.
that is true.
you are correct on your statements, its the leap of reasoning where you BOTH
faulter

how does anyone know that the cutting is causing more deaths than people
that were given
STRAIGHT cocaine or heroin or mdma or anything?

All you have to do is compare the rate of death from overdose before drug
prohibition to the rate of death from overdose now.
Alcohol (yes it is a drug) is a perfect example. During the twenties, people
were making bathtub moonshine out of who knows what and many people were
dying from alcohol poisoning, and I don't even have to mention the number of
deaths due to criminal organiztions which appeared out of nowhere to supply
the demand. Now these criminal organizations run the drug trade.


its when it is cut with DANGEROUS things, and when it is cut with things
that can be taken in those doses
it is HELPING to keep the ravers from doing more of the actual drug

if they were cutting with benign substances, that would be dandy. But that
is the exception and not the rule.

if i put baking soda with my coke and sell it as uncut, they will do say 2
lines
if i make it pure they will STILL do two lines, regardless

forget baking soda, try pseudo-ephedrine. Most of the time, shady dealers
are cutting with substances that will fuck you up, and i mean FUCK you up.
examples - cutting mdma with DXM Hbr or PCP or rat poison.

we don't know and i don't care

sturgeon general 

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Ineterestingly enough, Richard Nixon was once asked by
a reporter what the fate of socialism (and i don't
mean communism) (big difference comrades-I mean
people) would be.  He replied (and i dare not quote)
that socialisms true manifestation could only be
accomplished here in the United States under the guise
of democracy.   I agree...except that I'm not sure if
we have a democracy anymore...hmmm...perhaps we never
did...


luis/fs


--- Tom Sprynczynatyk <spry0004@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
> To badly mangle a quote i read (not even sure who
> it's from), "Experience has
> shown us that communism doesn't work.  Pragmatists
> will reject it because it
> doesn't work, but men of words will always have a
> soft spot for it in their
> hearts because it sounds good."
> 
> Becky Wangenheim wrote:
> 
> > Since 3 months ago, my little brother is a card
> carrying member of the
> > Green Party. He's part of a group at school called
> "The Socialist
> > Alternative" and the Communist Manifesto is his
> Bible. He's working for
> > some Socialist organization in Seattle for his
> winter quarter project. He
> > believes in creating a true Marxist Communist
> Utopia.
> >
> > My parents are conservative Christian Republicans.
> They attend church at
> > least 3 times a week. They are Pro-Life, Pro-God
> and Pro-George Bush and
> > his school voucher program. My mom hopes my
> brother will be miserable in
> > Seattle.
> >
> > I'm a Democrat. I voted for Gore. I am Pro-Choice
> and anti school
> > vouchers. I've done my share of drgus in the past,
> but don't necessarily
> > believe in legalizing them. My brother takes every
> word that comes out of
> > my mouth as a political statement and belief. Even
> if it's "I want to
> > check my email."
> >
> > My husband isn't even a US citizen. He's German,
> though West German, he's
> > seen firsthand how a Communism works or doesn't
> work. My brother told him
> > he's full of shit, that East Germany wasn't a true
> Communist society, but
> > instead was a Stalinist form of government.
> >
> > We were all together for Christmas. Imagine the
> conflict and fun we had...
> > I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally,
> dysfunctional family
> > back.
> >
> > -- -Becky =)
> >
> > wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> > http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
> >
> >
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Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing, so my
involvement in this particular thread is ending....NOW.
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keywords being "most people know."

as opposed to the other people who don't know that
"two lines of coke won't kill you." which is what you
were saying.

which has nothing to do with whether or not those
poeple know if they posses a body chemistry which will
react differently than most people.

hukt awn foniks werked fer mee. iht kan werk fer yoo
two.
dumbass.
pixie


--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> Keywords being MOST PEOPLE
> 
> 
> > most people know that a line or two of coke won't
> > kill them (unless it isn't
> > really coke!)
> 
> okay, nimrod. have you considered the simple and
> often
> overlooked fact that any substance can affect any
> person in a number of ways. a line or two  of *pure*
> coke may not kill me or you, but there are certainly
> people out there who's body chemistry is vastly
> different, and who could die before the first line
> was
> finished.
> 
> pure or not.
> get a PhD, then we'll talk.
> pixie


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i think you're completely wrong about that.  let me go on to explain...

hehehe, sorry,
-t

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Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing, so my
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:22:20 -0600, Noble Long wrote:

>
>Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing, so my
>involvement in this particular thread is ending....NOW.

Isn't that what this list is all about ?

Arguing is fun. =)

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my reply will be given in two parts:
part one, the reply
part two, the statement that i think you have sufficiently proven yourself
an idiot
and that i dont think its necessary for me to help anymore

> Well, I don't think you have to try things first hand to know 
> them. Most
> people know they can handle a few lines, because of the experiences of
> others. If we had to learn everything by making mistakes 
> firsthand, we would
> still be in the stone age.

yes, you are right.
i can look at someone and give you in EXACT GRAMS how much coke than can
handle
because i understand explicitly their body chemistry as well as my own.

we do learn everything by making mistakes firsthand, everything else we only
THINK we know
or we only understand as concepts.
hopefully you can learn from your mistakes and not be an idiot here anymore.

oh yeah by the way.

you are an idiot
thank you


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> Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake
> of arguing, 

i'm glad you can finally admit that. maybe one day,
you'll learn how to participate in a discussion in
which gross mistatements that you make are refuted by
intelligent peers.

i guess for now, you'll have to settle for the
sandbox.
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> > I think he means that if drugs were legal, they would
> > be regulated, and pure drugs would be available in
> > stores rather than from greedy dealers on the street.
> oh well according to noble the government IS greedy
> and you are replacing one evil with another
> ask him, everyones out to get him
> hes done research
> 
> I love assumptions! You assume that I think the government is 
> greedy. You
> would be right about that. But, you also assume that I want 
> the government
> to regulate drugs. I don't. Personally, I think th FDA is a 
actually i did make one assumption
that you could read and comprehend a multithreaded reply
ready, GO!

joe stated "I think he means that if drugs were legal, they would be
regulated"
remember the guy that you agreed with a few posts back?
yeah. him
i didnt say that or even agree with it the only assumption i made was based
on your statements and your
bullshit leaps dealing with communism.

> bureaucratic
> nightmare. They categorize pot and heroin in the same category, allow
> aspartame to be added as a diet substitute for sugar, and 
> hold back many
> drugs already in use in other countries (because of fear of 
> releasing an
> unsafe substance) that could be preventing death for many 
> people in the
> meantime. Have you ever heard of a non-governmental 
> organization like UL
> (Underwriters Laboratory), which has been making the world 
> safer for years?
yes
i have.

> the greed is NOT what is causing people to use dangerous 
> substances to cut
> things
> THAT was his argument, and you didnt even touch on it
> 
> If greed is not causing people to cut illegal drugs, then 
> tell me what is?
> Is it that they are concerned that you may not be able to 
> handle the pure
> stuff?
nope
pure entertainment
and its part of the culture
habit
boredom
maybe they dont have pure shit so they want to make it seem like its working
when it isnt
i would state without actually knowing that i think most dealers or
manafacturers that have
access to PURE heroin, cocaine or MDMA are not gonna cut it
thats much higher class than your common dealer, at least in quantities

> All you have to do is compare the rate of death from overdose 
> before drug
> prohibition to the rate of death from overdose now.
hahaha
funny man with no pants!
well many things happened once drugs were prohibited, 
a) people were getting dangerous imitations because the processes
and capabilities of street peddlers didnt match larger companies
b) the drugs were taken in a much harsher and more claustrophobic, paranoid
atmosphere
     much like once acid was said to induce psychosis more bad trips occured
c) prohibition marked a new attitude towards the drug, which may cover a new
slanting of the statistics
	such as your horrible government attributing other things to drug
related deaths
d) more people are taking those drugs because they think its cool to be
doing something illegal

compare the rise in recreational use to the rise in overdoses


> if they were cutting with benign substances, that would be 
> dandy. But that
> is the exception and not the rule.
where is the drug trade rulebook?
did you write it?

 

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> Well, I don't think you have to try things first
> hand to know them. Most
> people know they can handle a few lines, because of
> the experiences of
> others. 

keyword being "think." you don't know. so why do you
persist? most people or not, you don't know anything
as far as a chemical reaction with your body goes
until you run tests or try something yourself

> If we had to learn everything by making
> mistakes firsthand, we would
> still be in the stone age.

that is such a blatant generalization i'm disgusted to
even read it. some things can *only* be learned by
making mistakes first-hand, and the fact that that is
an inherent and undeniable property of those
circumstances does not indicate that we are trapped in
an age far inferior to our current collective
intelligence.  

what?
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  When asked by a lady what form of government we have, Ben Franklin replied
"We have a republic, ma' am, if you can keep it." 
  According to the constitution, we do live in a republic, not a democracy.
You know ".. and to the republic, for which it stands...". A republic
actually gives us the best of both worlds - representative government (which
is supposed to answer to the people) and most aspects of a democracy, which
is direct involvement of the people. In a total democracy, there would be no
protection for the minority, because in a purely hypothetical situation 51%
of the people could vote to kill the other 49% and the minority could do
nothing but flee. Democracies almost always collapse when people find they
can vote for their own self interests.
  Like you, I'm a little suspect, when I hear someone say what a great
democracy we live in.

Noble 

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Ineterestingly enough, Richard Nixon was once asked by
a reporter what the fate of socialism (and i don't
mean communism) (big difference comrades-I mean
people) would be.  He replied (and i dare not quote)
that socialisms true manifestation could only be
accomplished here in the United States under the guise
of democracy.   I agree...except that I'm not sure if
we have a democracy anymore...hmmm...perhaps we never
did...


luis/fs


--- Tom Sprynczynatyk <spry0004@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
> To badly mangle a quote i read (not even sure who
> it's from), "Experience has
> shown us that communism doesn't work.  Pragmatists
> will reject it because it
> doesn't work, but men of words will always have a
> soft spot for it in their
> hearts because it sounds good."
> 
> Becky Wangenheim wrote:
> 
> > Since 3 months ago, my little brother is a card
> carrying member of the
> > Green Party. He's part of a group at school called
> "The Socialist
> > Alternative" and the Communist Manifesto is his
> Bible. He's working for
> > some Socialist organization in Seattle for his
> winter quarter project. He
> > believes in creating a true Marxist Communist
> Utopia.
> >
> > My parents are conservative Christian Republicans.
> They attend church at
> > least 3 times a week. They are Pro-Life, Pro-God
> and Pro-George Bush and
> > his school voucher program. My mom hopes my
> brother will be miserable in
> > Seattle.
> >
> > I'm a Democrat. I voted for Gore. I am Pro-Choice
> and anti school
> > vouchers. I've done my share of drgus in the past,
> but don't necessarily
> > believe in legalizing them. My brother takes every
> word that comes out of
> > my mouth as a political statement and belief. Even
> if it's "I want to
> > check my email."
> >
> > My husband isn't even a US citizen. He's German,
> though West German, he's
> > seen firsthand how a Communism works or doesn't
> work. My brother told him
> > he's full of shit, that East Germany wasn't a true
> Communist society, but
> > instead was a Stalinist form of government.
> >
> > We were all together for Christmas. Imagine the
> conflict and fun we had...
> > I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally,
> dysfunctional family
> > back.
> >
> > -- -Becky =)
> >
> > wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> > http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
> >
> >
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no, you're an idiot....nah nah n' n' nah!

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my reply will be given in two parts:
part one, the reply
part two, the statement that i think you have sufficiently proven yourself
an idiot
and that i dont think its necessary for me to help anymore

> Well, I don't think you have to try things first hand to know 
> them. Most
> people know they can handle a few lines, because of the experiences of
> others. If we had to learn everything by making mistakes 
> firsthand, we would
> still be in the stone age.

yes, you are right.
i can look at someone and give you in EXACT GRAMS how much coke than can
handle
because i understand explicitly their body chemistry as well as my own.

we do learn everything by making mistakes firsthand, everything else we only
THINK we know
or we only understand as concepts.
hopefully you can learn from your mistakes and not be an idiot here anymore.

oh yeah by the way.

you are an idiot
thank you


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This is a big difference between pointless arguing and intelligent
discussion. I can participate in both. Wanna take the gloves off?

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> Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake
> of arguing, 

i'm glad you can finally admit that. maybe one day,
you'll learn how to participate in a discussion in
which gross mistatements that you make are refuted by
intelligent peers.

i guess for now, you'll have to settle for the
sandbox.
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heres another one
i wanted to commend pixie on her sense of humour
you referred to the rest of mw-raves as "intelligent PEERS"(emphasis added)
to noble...

what a contradition!


hahahahha
peers?
i hope not


> i'm glad you can finally admit that. maybe one day,
> you'll learn how to participate in a discussion in
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> no, you're an idiot....nah nah n' n' nah!
THERES THE SPIRIT!

now stop being such a fuck and you'll fit right in and not be an outcast
from normal society!

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And what do you really KNOW??

The sky is blue? The grass is green? The world will end tommorow?

There is nothing real outside of our perception of reality, is there?

BTW, doesn't the phrase "collective reality" infer that people share the
knowledge that they have learned.

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> Well, I don't think you have to try things first
> hand to know them. Most
> people know they can handle a few lines, because of
> the experiences of
> others. 

keyword being "think." you don't know. so why do you
persist? most people or not, you don't know anything
as far as a chemical reaction with your body goes
until you run tests or try something yourself

> If we had to learn everything by making
> mistakes firsthand, we would
> still be in the stone age.

that is such a blatant generalization i'm disgusted to
even read it. some things can *only* be learned by
making mistakes first-hand, and the fact that that is
an inherent and undeniable property of those
circumstances does not indicate that we are trapped in
an age far inferior to our current collective
intelligence.  

what?
pixie


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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> This sounds like someone is twisting
> things to put a negative spin on what
> Nader probably really wants - consumer
> protection.  Nothing wrong with that.
> Large companies -should- be accountable.

True, but Nader would also have one to believe that welfare crack hoes
that push out 4 kids with no dads around should not be held accountable.
Sounds like a hypocrite, he must be a Democrate or Republican in real
life!!!  Companies should be held accountable, but if poor people screw up
their own life, middle and upper class should be held accountable for
them.  Glad he didn't make his 5%.



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http://www.computeruser.com/news/01/01/10/news6.html

i see no mention of an internet or email tax in this article.  as joe said, it 
seems that the main concern is consumer protection and consumer privacy.

     -bill


>===== Original Message From "Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com> =====
>
>
>This sounds like someone is twisting
>things to put a negative spin on what
>Nader probably really wants - consumer
>protection.  Nothing wrong with that.
>Large companies -should- be accountable.
>
>And where the hell does this say anything
>about an internet tax ?
>
>Maybe the other left wing parties are
>pissy 'cause Nader is stealing their thunder ?
>
>Declan McCullagh and Nicholas Morehead -
>who are these guys, and what is their agenda ?
>
>I'll offer more of a response after I look into
>this.  Who know's, maybe I'm wrong...
>
>	- Joe
>
>
>
>______________________________________________
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> This is a big difference between pointless arguing and intelligent
> discussion. I can participate in both. Wanna take the gloves off?
from personal experience:

pixie only fights bare-knuckle

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Becky Wangenheim wrote:

> I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally, dysfunctional family
> back.

I don't care if they live or die.  I voted Libertarian.  Since it looked
like Gore may win, I was _forced_ to buy an AR-15 and 10 high capacity
magzines that hold the evil 20 extra rounds.  Luckly Bush won (even
thought I voted Libertarian for pres.).  I am pro-choice, and
anti-voucher.  However as long as the socialist can make me pay for other
people's kids, I find comfort in knowning they are pissed at pay for a
ghetto kid to attend private school.  I love it!!!!


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>the fate of socialism (and i don't
>mean communism) (big difference comrades-I mean
>people)

bahahahahhahaha, easily the funniest line you've ever typed luis ;)

mk
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> i guess for now, you'll have to settle for the
> sandbox.
FILLED WITH GLASS!

sorry

i had the urge to post and nothing to say...
so as usual, i said
"micah, don't post unless its going to be important or worth the time to
read"
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"fuck it, its mw-raves"

so i posted it
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you left out powerful

mr. t

that is not vodka and i am not drunk at work

-----Original Message-----
From: Topping, Micah 
Subject: RE: [mw] RE: [RE: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]]

maybe the universe will get confused and you will get the monkey and THEN
you will become
powerful rich famous and all that...


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nope, i don't care to explain anything.  

i just think you're jumping to conclusions when you use "the green party
is not your friend" in the subject line and then go on to make a huge
"expose" about how they have a *gasp* socialist agenda!

NO FUCKING SHIT, EINSTEIN.

socialists are my friend.  so is the green party.  please don't try to
tell me otherwise.  you can speak for nobody but yourself.

chris

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> 
> Where in my below message did I mention Green Party?  Also, after reading
> their webpage I am allowed to make any assumptions I want.  Low and
> behold, their platform follows the various socialist groups that also ran
> presidential candidates.  However Nader was not part of the Green party,
> even though they endorsed him?  Maybe you can explain?
> 
> 
> > 
> > mr. keller,
> > 
> > the green party may not be your friend, but please don't make any
> > assumptions as to its friendship with others.
> > 
> > unsubscribe mw-republican-rants
> > 
> > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> > 
> > > Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take everything
> > > they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
> > > internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your ass,
> > > oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
> > > nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where everyone
> > > will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or worse
> > > than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing e-mail?
> > > Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for president?
> > > I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him then?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> And what do you really KNOW??
everything
i know everything because i know you can't possibly know any better than me.

> The sky is blue? The grass is green? The world will end tommorow?
yes, yes, no

> There is nothing real outside of our perception of reality, is there?
you can't "percieve realit"
why?
perception IS reality

> BTW, doesn't the phrase "collective reality" infer that 
> people share the
> knowledge that they have learned.
well i've never before heard "collective reality"
so i assume you made it up so i will make one up too
doesn't the phrase "personal reality" infer that people only learn and know
from their own senses
and that nothing is real to us until it is perceived on a persnal level?

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> > >so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy?
> > No, the fact that they can make more cutting their drugs, because of
> > prohibition, makes them greedy. It's all about supply and demand.
> actually, i know QUITE a few people that would buy more drugs if they were
> assured of the quality
> than those without

    Agreed, I've heard people say that they'd pay $50 for a pill if you
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Subject: Re: [mw] human traffic is the best rave movie

Hear, Hear. This movie is RiGHT THE FUCK ON! Anyone who sees it and doesn't 
laugh, nearly sry and be surprised either has no love in thier heart or has 
never really had any true experience(s) in this scene.

I must agree, the record store scenes had me almost in tears I was laughing 
so hard expecially that line "it's gonna be banned." and the dancing.

Go rent it. I'm buying it.

>
>when i was in england in 1999, i saw an awesome movie called "Human 
>Traffic".
>it's a druggy/romance/comedy about a group of friends in london who go to 
>lots
>of parties.  one of the guys works at a Dn'B record shop, and the scenes in
>there are hilarious!  the movie itself is kinda like a soap opera crossed 
>with
>the big lebowski or half-baked.  i dont' know why it was never released in 
>the
>US, but i'll bet it's out there on video.  the soundtrack was cool, too - i
>can't remember it all now, but i think it was mixed by pete tong.
>
>the funniest thing was that i saw it at a special preview screening at the
>homelands festival; they had it in a chill tent.  i took two rolls before 
>the
>movie started, and near the end, the two main characters *finally* hook up 
>in
>a really sweet/sexy scene.  of course, that's when i started coming up on 
>my
>rolls, and oh geeeez, i was really having a hard time keeping it together!
>
>anyway, ignore my blablalblalala and go get Human Traffic.
>
>peace,
>catnap
>


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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> This is a big difference between pointless arguing
> and intelligent
> discussion. I can participate in both. Wanna take
> the gloves off?

my gloves are always off.

perhaps you hadn't noticed.
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that's ok, neither could i.

in other news, i've been trying to update the picture-rotation engine to
favor showing higher ranking pictures than lower ranking ones on that
glowstick site thingie.  why, you might ask?

* reuseable code * - watch for rategayporn.com

i get to be an adult webmaster, my family will be so proud,
-t

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> oh don't be so hard on him micah.  he's really helped me!  
> i'm sitting here
> with like a pound of china white and i was gonna shoot the 
> whole thing up
> but now i'm considering that it might not be cut with anything at all.

you said "hard on"
i can't take this post seriously.



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On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 03:37:20PM -0500, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
> Hear, Hear. This movie is RiGHT THE FUCK ON! Anyone who sees it and doesn't 
> laugh, nearly sry and be surprised either has no love in thier heart or has 
> never really had any true experience(s) in this scene.
> 
> I must agree, the record store scenes had me almost in tears I was laughing 
> so hard expecially that line "it's gonna be banned." and the dancing.

Yea, it was a little over the top cheesey (but hey, it's British) but
definitely worth seein.  A few of the scene are absolutely hilarious...
Plus it has more exposed breasts than Groove.  :P

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> you left out powerful
no but i did leave out BLIND

> that is not vodka and i am not drunk at work
no comment

> -----Original Message-----
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> maybe the universe will get confused and you will get the 
> monkey and THEN
> you will become
> powerful rich famous and all that...
> 
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taxes != abolition
maybe your faulty reasoning(we all know it IS faulty so lets not discuss
that point) is that you equate communism with evil
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> My point is when you are buying drugs on the street, how do 
> you know how
> much cut you are getting and how much pure substance is 
> there? You don't and
> therefore you are taking a risk everytime.
so your POINT is a question? most likely rhetorical in nature?
huh.

well why limit it to the street? anymore when you get prescription drugs you
don't know what you are taking
poeple fill prescriptions wrong all the time, or doctors misprescribe

must be greed

guess i was wrong for thinking that i could live life not being paranoid,
heaven forbid!

btw
you take a risk whenever you take any drug



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ok, maybe that's vodka.

big t!

ps - i love the subject line, very informative.  still not changin it.

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> you left out powerful
no but i did leave out BLIND

> that is not vodka and i am not drunk at work
no comment

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> maybe the universe will get confused and you will get the 
> monkey and THEN
> you will become
> powerful rich famous and all that...

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From mw-raves-return-13786-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 21:23:43 2001
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no, i referred to the only people arguing him

i.e. me and you.

and you were a stretch, believe me ;]
pixie

> heres another one
> i wanted to commend pixie on her sense of humour
> you referred to the rest of mw-raves as "intelligent
> PEERS"(emphasis added)
> to noble...


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oh, please can I fit in? can I? can I?

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> no, you're an idiot....nah nah n' n' nah!
THERES THE SPIRIT!

now stop being such a fuck and you'll fit right in and not be an outcast
from normal society!

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From mw-raves-return-13788-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 21:28:14 2001
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I would pay $50 or more for pure MDMA, but I wouldn't pay $2 for a pill I
was unsure of.

Good thing there is ....

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml


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> > >so the fact that they have to sell it illegally makes them greedy?
> > No, the fact that they can make more cutting their drugs, because of
> > prohibition, makes them greedy. It's all about supply and demand.
> actually, i know QUITE a few people that would buy more drugs if they were
> assured of the quality
> than those without

    Agreed, I've heard people say that they'd pay $50 for a pill if you
could guarantee it was actually MDMA.

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> no, i referred to the only people arguing him
whew

> i.e. me and you.
awww

> and you were a stretch, believe me ;]
> pixie
i meant the peers part, but the intelligent part offends more people so i'll
go with that instead

> > heres another one
> > i wanted to commend pixie on her sense of humour
> > you referred to the rest of mw-raves as "intelligent
> > PEERS"(emphasis added)
> > to noble...

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>i guess for now, you'll have to settle for the sandbox.

i 1 the sandbox!

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Communism isn't evil. Killing and/or torturing millions in the name of
communism is. We hear about the millions Hitler had killed, how come we
don't hear about the millions Stalin had killed?

Far Right = Hitler = Evil
Far Left = Stalin = Evil

therefore
Hitler = Stalin = opposames

Noble

no, I am not a conservative right-winger!

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taxes != abolition
maybe your faulty reasoning(we all know it IS faulty so lets not discuss
that point) is that you equate communism with evil
love
mr mccarthy

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> Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing, so my
well duh
i thought that was your position too seeing as you never seemed to have an
actual point or a leg to stand on

> involvement in this particular thread is ending....NOW.
you'll be missed
did you hit send before or after the NOW?

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This fish is too smart to take your bait!

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> Methinks some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing, so my
well duh
i thought that was your position too seeing as you never seemed to have an
actual point or a leg to stand on

> involvement in this particular thread is ending....NOW.
you'll be missed
did you hit send before or after the NOW?

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> Plus it has more exposed breasts than Groove.  :P

    Gotta love those brits. =]

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That's what I'm hollerin'!....

Anyway, we have a really good lineup (look, even some hardcore!).  Show 
starts at 9 pm.  Digital PsyKosis is highly underrated, and just now getting 
his props after playing great sets at UNO, Lift, and Fire.  So get there 
early, drink a few, and friggin' dance for god's sake!!

meep

 - Soniq

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bang the box and take requests!"

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I do, her name is Jacqui...too bad she moved back to Manchester, with my
little girl, on Thanksgiving day.

Love is the best and worst thing in the universe.

Noble

spilling my guts to the world....

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> Plus it has more exposed breasts than Groove.  :P

    Gotta love those brits. =]

Matt Murphy
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At 02:12 PM 1/10/2001 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
>well why limit it to the street? anymore when you get prescription drugs you
>don't know what you are taking
>poeple fill prescriptions wrong all the time, or doctors misprescribe
>
>must be greed

and to tie today's two debates together - imagine how bad this would be 
under a socialist regime!  doctors and pharmacists won't give a FUCK 
because they're making the same as the hot dog vendor who's making the same 
as the astronaut who's making the same as the governor who's making the 
same as the sysadmin who's making the same as the news anchor.  you'll get 
ritalin when you were supposed to get claritin, relish when you wanted 
mustard, an exploding space shuttle (wait n/m on that one), a...well fuck 
my governor, sysadmin and news anchor do pretty crappy jobs already.

fox kids rocks kids,
mk
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Subject: [mw] Re: rave movies (was Re: [mw] Mwah!)

Raver bathroom is availible online--I'm not sure
where. These two guys made a move based on "heavy
metal parking lot"--where they brought a video camera
to the parking lot before a heavy metal concert and
taped the meyham. In this one, they took a camera into
a bathroom at a rave, and interviewed people coming
and going. It's full of people rolling thier asses
off, talking about ,"dude...it's not about the drugs,
it's about the hugs." I think it might be aroudn eight
hours long.
Human traffic was okay. I went to England this spring,
and everyone actually does that silly dance where they
wave thier arms around. I was just annoyed by the guy
who kept taking to the camera, a la "malcolm in the
middle", and the thought of those nasty people having
sex all pilled up. That there was enough to give me
Mr. Floppy ;)

erikka
--- chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> 
> > >Raver Bathroom. Highly recommended
> > 
> > Please PLEASE tell me there really is a movie
> called Raver Bathroom.  I 
> > would love to own a copy of that to show people
> what the rave scene is 
> > really like.
> 
> I wouldn't know about that... but there is a movie
> called "rave
> fever," and it's *BY FAR* the best rave movie ever
> made.
> 
> it's a hong kong rave flick...  if you're not
> already excited, you should
> be.  It's a story of a kid who gets really drunk,
> ends up at a rave party,
> takes a girl home, and then can't remember who she
> is.  But she left her
> organizer (refered to in the movie as a "filofax")
> at his place, and so
> begins his quest to track down the elusive "slept
> with her" rave girl.  
> 
> It's filled with completely ridiculous plot twists,
> which is funny since
> there's not much plot there to be twisted.  
> 
> raves in hong kong are much more posh than they are
> in the states... and
> if there's actually that much sex going on at them,
> they're probably more
> fun too!
> 
> for more info:
> http://www.goldenharvest.com/ravefever/
> 
> chris
> 


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Socialist.  I am awaiting for their rise to power, then their downfall as
my kind refuse to pay our taxes and turn the treat of violence aginst
those who dare try to use force to make us pay.  This should be around
70 million or so people.  Lock and load, it's gonna get messy, oh wait,
Bush won.  Now we just have to make sure he doesn't outlaw abortion.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

> 
> nope, i don't care to explain anything.  
> 
> i just think you're jumping to conclusions when you use "the green party
> is not your friend" in the subject line and then go on to make a huge
> "expose" about how they have a *gasp* socialist agenda!
> 
> NO FUCKING SHIT, EINSTEIN.
> 
> socialists are my friend.  so is the green party.  please don't try to
> tell me otherwise.  you can speak for nobody but yourself.
> 
> chris
> 
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> > 
> > Where in my below message did I mention Green Party?  Also, after reading
> > their webpage I am allowed to make any assumptions I want.  Low and
> > behold, their platform follows the various socialist groups that also ran
> > presidential candidates.  However Nader was not part of the Green party,
> > even though they endorsed him?  Maybe you can explain?
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > mr. keller,
> > > 
> > > the green party may not be your friend, but please don't make any
> > > assumptions as to its friendship with others.
> > > 
> > > unsubscribe mw-republican-rants
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take everything
> > > > they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
> > > > internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your ass,
> > > > oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
> > > > nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where everyone
> > > > will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or worse
> > > > than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing e-mail?
> > > > Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for president?
> > > > I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him then?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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STOP IT TONY!!! did you proposition micah enough on new years!!!! I
THOUGHT YOU GOT IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM!!!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> not missing an opportunity to respond to my own message,
> 
> maybe i'll pass out @ the next party i'm at with you.
> 
> playing dead,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Sebion 
> Subject: RE: [mw] [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]
> 
> 
> i hope i'm standing right next to you the next time i witness someone
> passing out @ a party.
> 
> love, no teeth,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topping, Micah 
> Subject: RE: [mw] [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]
> 
> 
> > 2.  Don't give anything to unresponsive people.  Period.  
> what about head?
> 
> can i give head to an unresponsive person without killing them?
> 
> 
> yes...i went there
> 
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to see shawne shoving shampoo bottles up his ass live on webcam go to 
www.shawnetakesitinthebum.com

sick my duck

 shawne@zoomtown.com writes:

<< I heard Gabe is giving out duck-shots to all takers as long as your duck
 butter isn't too runny or miscolored.
 
 passin on that one
 shawne >>


Gabe
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Subject: [mw] holy crap!  possible reason to buy ps2 !!!

http://ps2.ign.com/news/29839.html

mk
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Subject: RE: [mw] [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]

he went there.

i promise to try to be good,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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STOP IT TONY!!! did you proposition micah enough on new years!!!! I
THOUGHT YOU GOT IT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM!!!

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> not missing an opportunity to respond to my own message,
> 
> maybe i'll pass out @ the next party i'm at with you.
> 
> playing dead,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> i hope i'm standing right next to you the next time i witness someone
> passing out @ a party.
> 
> love, no teeth,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [mw] [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]
> 
> 
> > 2.  Don't give anything to unresponsive people.  Period.  
> what about head?
> 
> can i give head to an unresponsive person without killing them?
> 
> 
> yes...i went there

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tara the 2 beer queer

:)


gt303@juno.com writes:

<< that's all.
 
         i didn't. gross! boys are evil! >>


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there's this too:

http://ps2.ign.com/games/13846.html

chris

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> http://ps2.ign.com/news/29839.html
> 
> mk
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If it Looks Good,
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If it sounds Good,
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If it's Marketed Right,
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But... If it's Real,
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bah, in gran turismo you don't get guns, smokescreens, oil slicks, or the 
badass theme song!!

mk

At 05:26 PM 1/10/2001 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

>there's this too:
>http://ps2.ign.com/games/13846.html
>
>chris
>
>On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:
>
> > http://ps2.ign.com/news/29839.html

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From mw-raves-return-13808-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 10 22:37:29 2001
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Subject: [mw] New dubplates and mix online @ www.madbass.com

Hello again,

A new dubplate by Menace and Embee called "The Spirit"
is now online:

http://www.madbass.com/tunes/thespirit.ram

Another new plate is another collaboration with the one 
and only Embee.  This time Embee teamed up with B Plus 
while he was over in London during the holidays.
The tune they finished is called "Self Destruction".

http://www.madbass.com/tunes/selfdestruction.ram


As always constructive criticism is welcomed and appreciated.


There is also a new mix from this past Monday's 
episode of ABSTRACTIONS.  Chek played solo
for the first 35 minutes of the show and then I took over 
for the rest of the show.  Lots of the dubplates, promos,
and current tunes to hear up in the mix.

Go here to hear the archived real audio:

http://www.madbass.com/mixes/mix_abs-010108.ram

For any track listing of anything that was played 
please email me with the time in the archive that 
the song was played [hour : minutes : seconds]
and I will get back to you as per usual.


Thanks again,

MK2
djmk2@madbass.com
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This made me laugh...and hell, if you can't laugh at others, who can you laugh at ;)erikkahttp://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0101/phish/


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downloading a C64 emulator - free
downloading Spy Hunter for your C64 emulator - free

playing Spy Hunter on your C64 emulator - priceless....

There's some things money can't buy, for everything else ....WHO NEEDS IT!

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [mw] holy crap! possible reason to buy ps2 !!!


bah, in gran turismo you don't get guns, smokescreens, oil slicks, or the 
badass theme song!!

mk

At 05:26 PM 1/10/2001 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

>there's this too:
>http://ps2.ign.com/games/13846.html
>
>chris
>
>On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:
>
> > http://ps2.ign.com/news/29839.html

________________________________________________________________________
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> protection for the minority, because in a purely hypothetical situation 51%
> of the people could vote to kill the other 49% and the minority could do
> nothing but flee. Democracies almost always collapse when people find they

Only if the 49% were stupid Democrates that trusted their safety to the
state and disarmed.


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> * reuseable code * - watch for rategayporn.com
FUCKER!
i had almost that idea two days ago
but it was gonna be ratemyporn.com
and have different categories and stuff

DAMMIT!
all the good ones are taken

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:
> 
> you could take out "internet" and insert "*" where "*" would be the 
> wildcard signifying everything under the fucking sun.  what else do you 
> expect from the man that wants to turn the united states into a socialist 
> republic?  thank god that americans, by and large, are not stupid enough to 
> vote for this guy.

I am so glad people on this list see this guy for what he is worth.  For
some reason college kids embraced him.  I guess since Mommy and Daddy are
dishing out $20K/yr. so the kid doesn't have any loans and lets them drive
the BMW to school.  Like someone said before the election, if Nader were
to win, these college students would die when they guy they voted for
hikes taxes so high that their $80k/yr. job leaves them with $40k take
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> And what do you really KNOW??

a lot more than you think you do. and enough to know
that what is safe for one person is not necessarily
safe for another.

i know that i really know nothing. and will and have
happily admitted to it. you, on the other hand, are
attempting to lay claim to an expertise in
circumstantial knowledge, which is pretty laughable
considering that circumstantial or hypothetical
knowledge is, for the most part, utterly useless.

> There is nothing real outside of our perception of
> reality, is there?

absolutely not. which means that you are not real,
because in my perception of reality, you are merely
words on a screen, and outside of that, according to
your statement, nothing is real. so you are not real. 

> BTW, doesn't the phrase "collective reality" infer
> that people share the
> knowledge that they have learned.

if by that you mean "collective intelligence," which
is what i said, what it infers is that in my humble
opinion, our species as a whole has evolved beyond the
intelligence level our species possesed during the
stone age. this in no way makes any reference to
specific people, since it's quite obvious that some
individuals do still possess an intelligence level
equal to that period.

please, continue.
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who is the girl in the DJ GHOST shirt?  damn, fucking hot!!

and she's not even blonde,
mk

At 01:41 PM 1/10/2001 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
>that's ok, neither could i.
>
>in other news, i've been trying to update the picture-rotation engine to
>favor showing higher ranking pictures than lower ranking ones on that
>glowstick site thingie.  why, you might ask?
>
>* reuseable code * - watch for rategayporn.com
>
>i get to be an adult webmaster, my family will be so proud,
>-t
>
>http://guyswithglowsticks.com/?ck=OYFYIJOGX1
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Topping, Micah
>Subject: RE: [mw] RE: [RE: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] whatever happened to...]]
>
>
> > oh don't be so hard on him micah.  he's really helped me!
> > i'm sitting here
> > with like a pound of china white and i was gonna shoot the
> > whole thing up
> > but now i'm considering that it might not be cut with anything at all.
>
>you said "hard on"
>i can't take this post seriously.
>
>
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is anyone planning on going? should we start a  net meet?

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Maybe Becky's brother should start dressing like the Borg?  He can go
around telling people "Assimilate now, resistance is futile"  "Dress like
me and my friends or die."

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> The only way communism works is if it's voluntary. You cannot force people
> to be part of the collective. In all the cases were we call a country
> communism, China, Russia, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, etc. , what you have
> in reality is authoritarianism. You want to see communism in action? Go to
> the Farm in Summertown, TN. There are some really great folks down there.
> 
> http://www.thefarm.org/
> 
> onelove.
> Noble
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Sprynczynatyk [mailto:spry0004@tc.umn.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:13 PM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] socialists, communists and Ralph Nader
> 
> 
> To badly mangle a quote i read (not even sure who it's from), "Experience
> has
> shown us that communism doesn't work.  Pragmatists will reject it because it
> doesn't work, but men of words will always have a soft spot for it in their
> hearts because it sounds good."
> 
> Becky Wangenheim wrote:
> 
> > Since 3 months ago, my little brother is a card carrying member of the
> > Green Party. He's part of a group at school called "The Socialist
> > Alternative" and the Communist Manifesto is his Bible. He's working for
> > some Socialist organization in Seattle for his winter quarter project. He
> > believes in creating a true Marxist Communist Utopia.
> >
> > My parents are conservative Christian Republicans. They attend church at
> > least 3 times a week. They are Pro-Life, Pro-God and Pro-George Bush and
> > his school voucher program. My mom hopes my brother will be miserable in
> > Seattle.
> >
> > I'm a Democrat. I voted for Gore. I am Pro-Choice and anti school
> > vouchers. I've done my share of drgus in the past, but don't necessarily
> > believe in legalizing them. My brother takes every word that comes out of
> > my mouth as a political statement and belief. Even if it's "I want to
> > check my email."
> >
> > My husband isn't even a US citizen. He's German, though West German, he's
> > seen firsthand how a Communism works or doesn't work. My brother told him
> > he's full of shit, that East Germany wasn't a true Communist society, but
> > instead was a Stalinist form of government.
> >
> > We were all together for Christmas. Imagine the conflict and fun we had...
> > I hope Ralph Nader dies so I can have my normally, dysfunctional family
> > back.
> >
> > -- -Becky =)
> >
> > wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
> > http://www.muc.muohio.edu/~wangenra
> >
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> Communism isn't evil. Killing and/or torturing millions in the name of
> communism is. We hear about the millions Hitler had killed, 
> how come we
> don't hear about the millions Stalin had killed?
uhhh we do

> Far Right = Hitler = Evil
> Far Left = Stalin = Evil
i would make a small statement here
that evil is based on intention, that persons intention
bad is only a qualitative assesment of what happenned

neither were evil to them because they thought they were doing good things
for the people
thats not evil,i just dont agree with it.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

Where in my below message did I mention Green Party?  Also, after reading
their webpage I am allowed to make any assumptions I want.  Low and
behold, their platform follows the various socialist groups that also ran
presidential candidates.  However Nader was not part of the Green party,
even though they endorsed him?  Maybe you can explain?


> 
> mr. keller,
> 
> the green party may not be your friend, but please don't make any
> assumptions as to its friendship with others.
> 
> unsubscribe mw-republican-rants
> 
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> 
> > Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take everything
> > they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
> > internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your ass,
> > oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
> > nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where everyone
> > will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or worse
> > than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing e-mail?
> > Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for president?
> > I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him then?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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>This fish is too smart to take your bait!

this kangaroo is too wooden to make any methaphorical sense.

mk



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Would you like to make a wager? I bet you that in four years, under "Dubya",
there will be more laws, less liberty, higher taxes and more socialism. I am
willing to bet $1000.

The smartest wolf wears sheep's clothing.

Noble

"Freedom is the only thing you can gain more of by giving it to others."

-----Original Message-----
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Socialist.  I am awaiting for their rise to power, then their downfall as
my kind refuse to pay our taxes and turn the treat of violence aginst
those who dare try to use force to make us pay.  This should be around
70 million or so people.  Lock and load, it's gonna get messy, oh wait,
Bush won.  Now we just have to make sure he doesn't outlaw abortion.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

> 
> nope, i don't care to explain anything.  
> 
> i just think you're jumping to conclusions when you use "the green party
> is not your friend" in the subject line and then go on to make a huge
> "expose" about how they have a *gasp* socialist agenda!
> 
> NO FUCKING SHIT, EINSTEIN.
> 
> socialists are my friend.  so is the green party.  please don't try to
> tell me otherwise.  you can speak for nobody but yourself.
> 
> chris
> 
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> > 
> > Where in my below message did I mention Green Party?  Also, after
reading
> > their webpage I am allowed to make any assumptions I want.  Low and
> > behold, their platform follows the various socialist groups that also
ran
> > presidential candidates.  However Nader was not part of the Green party,
> > even though they endorsed him?  Maybe you can explain?
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > mr. keller,
> > > 
> > > the green party may not be your friend, but please don't make any
> > > assumptions as to its friendship with others.
> > > 
> > > unsubscribe mw-republican-rants
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take
everything
> > > > they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
> > > > internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your
ass,
> > > > oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
> > > > nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where
everyone
> > > > will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or
worse
> > > > than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing
e-mail?
> > > > Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for
president?
> > > > I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him
then?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
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> > 
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: The Green Party is not your friend

What Nader seems to be forgetting is that there already exists an
organization specifically designed for internet governance - the
International Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers.  What's
more, it's currently chaired by Esther Dyson - someone with education,
experience, expertise directly related to the issue...  not some
independent pundit who thinks his comb-over is fooling people.  In
addition, it's endowed by nearly every industrialized nation with the
power to make these kinds of internation decisions.  what's Nader
gonna do?  lock up people who download kiddie porn and make sure that
everyone in the richest nation on earth ends up paying for something
that's going to be completely free in 10 years?

Why does the United States constantly get these ideas in its
(figurative) head that it can control something with no borders or
checkpoints as though it resided solely within its borders?

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Dynamic Groove wrote:

-->This sounds like someone is twisting
-->things to put a negative spin on what
-->Nader probably really wants - consumer
-->protection.  Nothing wrong with that.
-->Large companies -should- be accountable.

large companies are accountable.  it's called capitalism.  you
want to hold a corporation
responsible for its actions, price structure, political stance, or
environmental policy?  fine.  don't buy their shit.  i'm sure there's
someone else out there selling the same thing who doesn't pump arsenic
into our nation's watershed and money into the pockets of pro-life
senators.

when people in this country simultaneously decry big government and
untouchable corporate monsters, it's the epitome of idiocy.  why?
because we have neither.  the FCC?  the FCC is there so some dumbshit
with a 6GHz microwave emitter doesn't nuke your cable TV halfway
through the fourth quarter.  granted, the government has overstepped
its bounds in the past (and probably will in the future) but what Alan
Greenspan knows (and what more and more people are starting to
understand) is that it works better if they do NOTHING but make sure
everyone follows the rules.

(before you start screaming... no, i don't believe in everything - or
much, for that matter - that the government does)

now, herein lies the problem.  companies large and small are held
accountable for their actions only when the public is informed.  
that's why we have corporate raiders and pollution and inferior
products - because no one gives enough of a shit to stop cramming
doritos down their throats for a minute to pick up a newspaper.

so what's the point?  the point is you can't have it both ways.  you
want less government?  well that means corporations are going to be
able to get away with more.  you want big business to get away with
less?  well, the simplest solution is more government.  but isn't that
what we were trying to avoid in the first place?  

yes.  

so maybe you should let the government attend to more important things
like blowing up people with odd pigmentation and just stop supporting
the national conglomerates.  and while you're at it, make sure your
friends don't either.  quite honestly, it doesn't matter if YOU don't
buy it, but when WE don't, that's something.

until then, quit yer bitching.  

from flavor country with love,
greg


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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

-->> There is nothing real outside of our perception of reality, is there?
-->you can't "percieve realit"
-->why?
-->perception IS reality

the matrix has you.

subscribe mw-pointless@hyperreal.org,
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Subject: [mw] ULTRA3_2K1 - The Equation of Electronic Dance Music - March 24, 2001

Stay tuned to http://www.ultra2000.net for info on
ULTRA3_2k1 - The Equation of Electronic Dance Music -
Miami, Florida on March 24, 2001.

Partial Lineup

Tiesto
George Acosta
Talla XLC
DJ Scribble
KRS-1

Drum and Bass stage exlusively run by Drum and Bass
Arena, http://www.breakbeat.co.uk

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:

-->
-->
-->On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Dynamic Groove wrote:
-->
-->> This sounds like someone is twisting
-->> things to put a negative spin on what
-->> Nader probably really wants - consumer
-->> protection.  Nothing wrong with that.
-->> Large companies -should- be accountable.
-->
-->True, but Nader would also have one to believe that welfare crack hoes
-->that push out 4 kids with no dads around should not be held accountable.
-->Sounds like a hypocrite, he must be a Democrate or Republican in real
-->life!!!  Companies should be held accountable, but if poor people screw up
-->their own life, middle and upper class should be held accountable for
-->them.  Glad he didn't make his 5%.

have you met my friend Michael Knight?  you two should get together
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->I would pay $50 or more for pure MDMA, but I wouldn't pay $2 for a pill I
-->was unsure of.
-->
-->Good thing there is ....
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-->http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml

... only tests for MDMA-like substances... MDMA, MDA, MDEA, MDBD,
MDXYZLMNOP all cause the same color change, more or less.

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hey everyone iam chucking this hotmail shite out the fukin window
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--- "R.Clark" <cubfan_2001@mindspring.com> wrote:
>  Tiesto
> > George Acosta
> > Talla XLC
> > DJ Scribble
> > KRS-1
> >
> Alright!!  Who's up for a road trip to see
> Scribble?!?!  He works for MTV,
> rite? That would be totally cool!
> 
> Ryan
> -hater of sellouts-
> 



I guess you haven't been watching MTV to see the
Perfecto, Paul Oakenfold commercials. I guess he's a
sellout as well.



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> > maybe i'll pass out @ the next party i'm at with
> you.
> we're gonna have to drink more than we did at new
> years, but you never know
> maybe someone will cut the rum'n'coke with some
> kinda pcp or something

So thats what happened to me on New Years Eve??!!

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Subject: [mw] LIFT-CINCINNATI (THURDAYS JAN/FEB 2001)

hello everyone...here is the latest LIFT-CINCINNATI update...LIFT is held
every thursday in lovely cincinnati ohio @ the annies nightclub
facility about 7 minutes from downtown...annies is packed to the brim with
the beautiful blue cabinets
otherwise known as TURBOSOUND and has plenty of bars so you dont have to
force yourself in front of people to get a drink...heres the schedule
through january and into february...

clubhead records presents
LIFT
thursday 1.11.2001 10:00pm-3:00am
djs
NOTTY-INDIANAPOLIS (TRANCE)
BOB A DOB-CINCINNATI (HOUSE)
ORACLE-CINCINNATI (TECHNO/ELECTRO)
+ MORE TBA
admission $7  18+ admitted; 21+ to consume alcohol
location: Annie's 4343 Kellogg Avenue, CIncinnati, OH   info: 513.321.0220
info lines: 513.665.9999   513.648.9647   513.956.0750

clubhead records presents
LIFT
thursday 1.18.2001 10:00pm-3:00am
djs
MAZI-CHICAGO (HOUSE)
FRANKIE VEGA-CHICAGO (TECHNO)
in their first tri-state appearance
+ MORE TBA
admission $7  18+ admitted; 21+ to consume alcohol
location: Annie's 4343 Kellogg Avenue, CIncinnati, OH   info: 513.321.0220
info lines: 513.665.9999   513.648.9647   513.956.0750

clubhead records presents
LIFT
thursday 1.25.2001 10:00pm-3:00am
djs
NITRO-K.C. vs DJ BOOTH in a special
disco death match 4 table tag team (DISCO HOUSE/SPEED GARAGE)
+ MORE TBA
admission $10  18+ admitted; 21+ to consume alcohol
location: Annie's 4343 Kellogg Avenue, CIncinnati, OH   info: 513.321.0220
info lines: 513.665.9999   513.648.9647   513.956.0750

clubhead records presents
LIFT
thursday 2.1.2001 10:00pm-3:00am
djs
ROY DAVIS JR.-CHICAGO (HOUSE/DISCO)
+ MORE TBA
admission $7  18+ admitted; 21+ to consume alcohol
location: Annie's 4343 Kellogg Avenue, CIncinnati, OH   info: 513.321.0220
info lines: 513.665.9999   513.648.9647   513.956.0750

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, oh 45206
booking line: 513.766.2007 x1429
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> --- "R.Clark" <cubfan_2001@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >  Tiesto
> > > George Acosta
> > > Talla XLC
> > > DJ Scribble
> > > KRS-1
> > >
> > Alright!!  Who's up for a road trip to see
> > Scribble?!?!  He works for MTV,
> > rite? That would be totally cool!
> > 
> > Ryan
> > -hater of sellouts-
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> I guess you haven't been watching MTV to see the
> Perfecto, Paul Oakenfold commercials. I guess he's a
> sellout as well.
> 
Well I guess I'm gonna have to agree, seeing as Oaky is trying to schill
another CD which will never live up to Traceport.  Maybe he should take a
cue from the Smashing Pumpkins and go out on top.  You want another reason
why he sold out?  Just think of Big Brother.

Ryan




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So when a DJ get to the level of making $25K per gig,
and then he want's to market his mixes, particularily
when they're slammin, he's considered a sellout. 

Now even though technology is changing music and the
way we listen to music, any artist who wan't more
exposure for himself is considered a sellout?

I've listened to Oakie spin live twice and both times
he kicked ass. He may be a sellout but damn he's
fucking good!!!

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> I've listened to Oakie spin live twice and both times
> he kicked ass. He may be a sellout but damn he's
> fucking good!!!
>


nonononononono, let's re-write that...

you've seen oakie play twice, and both times, his *records* kicked ass, in
your view of things...

Oakie stood there chit-chatting, and every once and a while moved the fader
over, oakie does not mix...

Oakie should head the wedding DJ's union...

;)

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>have you met my friend Michael Knight?  you two should get together
>and hit the big city so you can spit on all the panhandling folk.

HEY!  the only homeless people i spit on are the ones with crass logos on 
their jackets!

more conservative than advertised,
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i thought you were straight up detroit, yo?

shouldn't that read Yzerman scores?

punk

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At 01:23 PM 2001-01-10, you wrote:

>^^^^^this was my whole point, do you really know anyone that has overdosed
>on pure marijuana, pure heroin, pure cocaine, pure mdma? And when I say
>overdose, I mean to the point of death not just freaking out or a bad
>interaction.

contributing a bit late to this *massive* thread

yes i knew this kid once who overdosed on mdma.... he was just fine and 
normal one day and then he did a bunch of e and now he wears phat pants and 
talks funny... i think his parents had a private funeral

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>I guess you haven't been watching MTV to see the
>Perfecto, Paul Oakenfold commercials. I guess he's a
>sellout as well.

what's a sellout?  scribble, oakenfields, and 237492387 other people have 
always played flavourless commercial crap.  they are true to themselvs 
inasmuch as they never played good music, and crap happens to be well 
received.  crap's a moneymaker.  one thing i can say for scribble - he has 
turntable skills, oakenfields has none.

mk

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>Maybe he should take a
>cue from the Smashing Pumpkins and go out on top.

i'm sorry, i thought smashing pumpkins ended things this year, not in 1996.

mk

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well...since its not happening for you, step up and deliver something better
; )
im waiting with open eyes (seriously)

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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omg i just thought of something.

djoracle:bob-a-dob::silver1:anabolic frolic !!

YEP!

can i carry your records sir,
mk

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On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 07:03:21PM -0600, William Bunyan wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Griggles" <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> To: "keep it to yourself next time" 
> <snip>
> 
> > jesus saves,
> > gretzky scores.
> i thought you were straight up detroit, yo?
> 
> shouldn't that read Yzerman scores?

We're the Oilers, the World Bank - the Flames, 
Two minutes remain in the 7th game of this best of 7 series,
Jesus saves, Gretzky scores. 
The workers slave, 
The rich get more.
One wrong move and we risk the cup. 
Play The Man, 
not the puck.

mw-propagandhi is my favorite list.

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->
-->>have you met my friend Michael Knight?  you two should get together
-->>and hit the big city so you can spit on all the panhandling folk.
-->
-->HEY!  the only homeless people i spit on are the ones with crass logos on 
-->their jackets!

you're not punk and i'm telling.

glue in his hair,
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From mw-raves-return-13847-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 11 01:28:37 2001
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, William Bunyan wrote:

-->i thought you were straight up detroit, yo?
-->
-->shouldn't that read Yzerman scores?

no.

-->punk

yup.

-->
-->"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
-->wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com
-->
-->----- Original Message ----- 
-->From: "Griggles" <gdamiani@umich.edu>
-->To: "keep it to yourself next time" 
--><snip>
-->
-->> jesus saves,
-->> gretzky scores.
-->> 
-->> subscribe mw-cheapshots@hyperreal.org,
-->> greg
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Subject: [mw] What is IT?


check out:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/513749.asp

And tell me what you think.

Also, in other revolutionary science news, Stephen Wolfram is very close to 
completing his novel, "A New Kind of Science."  Should be released this 
year.  He claims that he is going to overturn several sciences with his 
discoveries; mainly relating to the properties of what he calls "cellular 
automata."  He predicts no science will be left unaffected.

Easy to dismiss at first until you realize the guy is fucking genius: he 
invented Mathematica (the math simulation code), studied particle physics at 
Cal-Tech under Feynman, and had his PhD from there by the time he was 21.  
Someone like that you have to at least give some credence to.  I do.

Anyway, the next 15 or so years should be exciting!  My thoughts are that 
medical and computer technology will advance to a point that our generation 
will be the first to have the potential to exist forever.  Even the 
conservative estimate for people born today is that the AVERAGE age will be 
about 120.

fun fun, plenty of time for fun,
Adam


Addendum: People post too much shit to this list (myself often included).  
When did that start?  Dont reply to that. ;)

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m'atomly - 

you fucking rock

<period>

publicly subsidized, privately profitable, born, hired, disposed, kept
in place by displaced government death squads, etc., etc.,

she tells me that she loves me,
greg

p.s.  is this the rebirth of mw-raves?  should i get used to 100+
mw-mails a day?  or should i just wait 'til micah gets bored again and
stops generating (directely and otherwise) 50% of that.


On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, atomly wrote:

-->On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 07:03:21PM -0600, William Bunyan wrote:
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-->> From: "Griggles" <gdamiani@umich.edu>
-->> To: "keep it to yourself next time" 
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-->> 
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-->> > gretzky scores.
-->> i thought you were straight up detroit, yo?
-->> 
-->> shouldn't that read Yzerman scores?
-->
-->We're the Oilers, the World Bank - the Flames, 
-->Two minutes remain in the 7th game of this best of 7 series,
-->Jesus saves, Gretzky scores. 
-->The workers slave, 
-->The rich get more.
-->One wrong move and we risk the cup. 
-->Play The Man, 
-->not the puck.
-->
-->mw-propagandhi is my favorite list.
-->
-->-- 
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-->
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Subject: [mw] vision...

27 : jan : 2001

There is one reason why people become dissatisfied, or disenchanted, in the
something in which they are involved in; a point where that "something"
seems that it is going either no where, or down hill.  That one reason is
that they have no drive...

...no vision

many social movements came to a natural end because of no vision; nothing to
focus on.  However, we are lucky...

...we can create and re-create, we can have vision

To do this, one needs only a special moment in time, where, even if for only
6.5 hours, in which they totally open up, and train themselves to focus on
their vision...

...for that vision is there own, and it is alive...

...even if for just 6.5 hours

27 : jan : 2001

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: The Green Party is not your friend


>mw-propagandhi is my favorite list.

i thought this was mw-born-against !!  dammit.

in related news, it was much to the chagrin of my brother and i that the 
blackhawks' upcoming contest with the pens is standing room only, and this 
is super mario's only appearance in chicago this season.  :/

hey jord, how's it GOING,
mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] Oakie

I guess Oakie had nothing to do with the song
selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that paid
$40 to experience one of his sets. I guess Oakie must
be dreaming when he's on a plane flying all over the
world to spin.

Yeah you're right. The guys sucks.

YEAH RIGHT

TM


darwin@veriomail.com writes
> nonononononono, let's re-write that...
> 
> you've seen oakie play twice, and both times, his
> *records* kicked ass, in
> your view of things...
> 
> Oakie stood there chit-chatting, and every once and
> a while moved the fader
> over, oakie does not mix...
> 
> Oakie should head the wedding DJ's union...
> 
> ;)
> 
> darw_n
> 
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> 
> search for "djdarwin" on napster
> www.sphereproductions.com
> www.mannequinodd.com
> www.mp3.com/darw_n
> 


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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Adam Meadows wrote:

-->Anyway, the next 15 or so years should be exciting!  My thoughts are that 
-->medical and computer technology will advance to a point that our generation 
-->will be the first to have the potential to exist forever.  

have you read 'The Age of Spiritual Machines' by Ray Kurzweil.  you
should.  cognitive sciences (read: impractically practical A.I.) will
produce proper electronic brains.  plus always improving body
replacement parts = the end of death  ...  

of course the implication there is that this would be the death of
breeding.  i always miss out on the good stuff...  like seeing Evita
while it was still in theatres.

posts by the pound,
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>have you read 'The Age of Spiritual Machines' by Ray Kurzweil.  you
>should.  cognitive sciences (read: impractically practical A.I.) will
>produce proper electronic brains.  plus always improving body
>replacement parts = the end of death  ...

domo arigoto, mr. griggles.

>of course the implication there is that this would be the death of
>breeding.  i always miss out on the good stuff...  like seeing Evita
>while it was still in theatres.

i saw it in the theater and it left much to be desired.  i guess it was 
okay, but my inner homo just can't seem to get it together on the movie 
front, and i'm much more into star wars.  WOOOOO!

don't cry for me, ann arbor,
mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] Oakie

yeah, he picks out good records that the crowd pees themselves too...''still
doesn't mix, and that makes him nothing but a real good wedding DJ...

I'll give him that...

To each his own, but I will state that people like oakie give DJ's a
*horrible* name in the art community...

Oh, and flying business class around the world is not the end all be all of
art...

nor do I rate someone on the frequent flier miles they have...

just means that they have a good publicist and agent...

On a historical level, I give him a ton more credit, he pretty much helped
to create the acid house scene in manchester in the 80's...

He's a nice guy too...

still a wedding disk jockey though...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

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----- Original Message -----
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> I guess Oakie had nothing to do with the song
> selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
> had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that paid
> $40 to experience one of his sets. I guess Oakie must
> be dreaming when he's on a plane flying all over the
> world to spin.
>
> Yeah you're right. The guys sucks.
>
> YEAH RIGHT
>
> TM
>
>
> darwin@veriomail.com writes
> > nonononononono, let's re-write that...
> >
> > you've seen oakie play twice, and both times, his
> > *records* kicked ass, in
> > your view of things...
> >
> > Oakie stood there chit-chatting, and every once and
> > a while moved the fader
> > over, oakie does not mix...
> >
> > Oakie should head the wedding DJ's union...
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > darw_n
> >
> > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> >
> > search for "djdarwin" on napster
> > www.sphereproductions.com
> > www.mannequinodd.com
> > www.mp3.com/darw_n
> >
>
>
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Adam Meadows wrote:

-->
-->check out:
-->http://www.msnbc.com/news/513749.asp

p.s.  i stopped reading here:

"and is so extraordinary that it has drawn the attention of technology
visionaries Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs"

shouldn't that read 'failed technology visionaries'?  last time i
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that's all-important, but if you're a technology visionary who sells
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ha....

responding to 2 griggles messages in one day.

no, i don't think the measure of a visionary is if their vision can sell.

nor is the measure of an artist if their art can sell.

the measure of a businessperson is if their vision can sell.

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Adam Meadows wrote:
> 
> -->
> -->check out:
> -->http://www.msnbc.com/news/513749.asp
> 
> p.s.  i stopped reading here:
> 
> "and is so extraordinary that it has drawn the attention of technology
> visionaries Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs"
> 
> shouldn't that read 'failed technology visionaries'?  last time i
> checked, neither has ever maintained a decent profit margin.  not that
> that's all-important, but if you're a technology visionary who sells
> his vision...  shouldn't it... ummmmmm...  sell?
> 
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hey dude. trance sucks.

fucktrance.

where's the hardcore?


On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Futuristic Funk wrote:

> I guess Oakie had nothing to do with the song
> selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
> had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that paid
> $40 to experience one of his sets. I guess Oakie must
> be dreaming when he's on a plane flying all over the
> world to spin.
>
> Yeah you're right. The guys sucks.

thank you and goodnite...


p.s. misha, don't have a hissy fit and go off.


-- 
-Becky =)

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->>have you read 'The Age of Spiritual Machines' by Ray Kurzweil.  you
-->>should.  cognitive sciences (read: impractically practical A.I.) will
-->>produce proper electronic brains.  plus always improving body
-->>replacement parts = the end of death  ...
-->
-->domo arigoto, mr. griggles.

fuckin a.  i'm going to see Styx and REO down in Toledo sometime next 
month.., and get this... SURVIVOR is opening.  all i want to know is what
they're gonna play after the 5th encore of 'Eye of the Tiger.'



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I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is ok
nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.

TM



--- Becky Wangenheim <wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu>
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> hey dude. trance sucks.
> 
> fucktrance.
> 
> where's the hardcore?
> 


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>I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
>taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is ok
>nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.

you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your opinion is irrelevant.

mk

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You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
think it's noise.

TM




--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
> ok
> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
> 
> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
> opinion is irrelevant.
> 
> mk
> 
>
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> You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
> think it's noise.

and some people think noise is another form of musical experssion.

hmmm...didn't people call rock n roll noise once, a long time ago?
what about experimental jazz?

sorry kid, calling something noise isn't necessarily insulting it. i
happen to enjoy sitting back, relaxing and listening to some raging noise
every now and again.

/j





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How many people from the midwest would be willing to
come to Miami for the weekend to experience the best
Hardcore DJ's in the world, on the eve of the Winter
Music Festival? We are seriously considering adding
Hardcore, Happy Hardcore and Speedcore to our
festival, ULTRA3_2k1 - The Equation of Electronic
Dance Music.

If the response is overwhelming, then it's a done
deal. The festival is on March 24, 2001.

http://www.ultra2000.net

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perhaps, "eye of the tiger"

if you bring me a diet coke i'll sit quietly and stay busy growing that
extra testicle.

t
()()()

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 SURVIVOR is opening.  all i want to know is what
they're gonna play after the 5th encore of 'Eye of the Tiger.'


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shit we've talked about doing hardcore at WMF the past two years on 
happyusa and nothing's ever come of it.  you should do it.  book a bunch of 
stateside hardcore dj's and make sure you keep us around a few extra days 
to sip daquiris on the beach and ogle bikini-clad college girls.

mk

At 07:31 PM 1/10/01 -0800, Futuristic Funk wrote:
>How many people from the midwest would be willing to
>come to Miami for the weekend to experience the best
>Hardcore DJ's in the world, on the eve of the Winter
>Music Festival? We are seriously considering adding
>Hardcore, Happy Hardcore and Speedcore to our
>festival, ULTRA3_2k1 - The Equation of Electronic
>Dance Music.
>
>If the response is overwhelming, then it's a done
>deal. The festival is on March 24, 2001.
>
>http://www.ultra2000.net
>
>=====
>TERRY MAC
>Futuristic Entertainment Technologies - Miami, FLA
>http://www.festivalcre8or.com
>
>ULTRA 2000 had 150,000 watts of sound. ULTRA3 will have well over 500,000 
>watts of NEXO Alpha engulfing your entire body with crystal clear sound 
>and jaw-dropping BASS!!!!!
>
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<< You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
 think it's noise.
 
 TM >>



I dont like hardcore, but noise  can be *very* interesting at times.

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<< Subj:     RE: [mw] socialists, communists and Ralph Nader >>


is this like a trance sucks thread.. that keeps on coming back ?


nader can suck me.

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Subject: [mw] Festivals in the Midwest

OK midwest scene, fill me in on the acceptance of a
major festival over there.

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Thanks to a very nice boy... I have this on CD. =P

The thing is... the copy I have... is different then the one you can rent. 
There is approx 8-10 more scenes, and they say "new jack hussler" instead of 
"new jack city"

so.. the one I have is better...

nEEeener
bite me.

Lor

In a message dated 1/10/01 4:16:14 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
hughblaze@hotmail.com writes:

<< Hear, Hear. This movie is RiGHT THE FUCK ON! Anyone who sees it and 
doesn't 
 laugh, nearly sry and be surprised either has no love in thier heart or has 
 never really had any true experience(s) in this scene.
 
 I must agree, the record store scenes had me almost in tears I was laughing 
 so hard expecially that line "it's gonna be banned." and the dancing.
 
 Go rent it. I'm buying it.
  >>

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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: The Green Party is not your friend

are you gonna spit on me? cuz i've got a big crass logo on the back of my
jacket...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael knight [mailto:michael@happy.hardcorps.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:07 PM
> To: Griggles; keep it to yourself next time
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>
>
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> >have you met my friend Michael Knight?  you two should get together
> >and hit the big city so you can spit on all the panhandling folk.
>
> HEY!  the only homeless people i spit on are the ones with crass logos on
> their jackets!
>
> more conservative than advertised,
> mk
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From mw-raves-return-13874-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 11 03:49:51 2001
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that was my point exactly.  Steve Jobs didn't publish
novels about the advent of the personal computer as a home appliance
or the implications it would have on a global society.  nor was Bezos
trying to subvert the standard seller location paradigm.  they both
were trying to make a buck.  

"the measure of a business puerson is if their vision can sell." 

they didn't.

and after seeing 'Pirates of Silicon Valley,' i also feel the need to
add that Jobs' status as a human being can be classified as "skanky"
at best.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, William Bunyan wrote:

-->ha....
-->
-->responding to 2 griggles messages in one day.

you know you love it ;)

-->
-->no, i don't think the measure of a visionary is if their vision can sell.
-->
-->nor is the measure of an artist if their art can sell.
-->
-->the measure of a businessperson is if their vision can sell.
-->
-->"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
-->wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com
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-->> -->check out:
-->> -->http://www.msnbc.com/news/513749.asp
-->> 
-->> p.s.  i stopped reading here:
-->> 
-->> "and is so extraordinary that it has drawn the attention of technology
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-->> 
-->> shouldn't that read 'failed technology visionaries'?  last time i
-->> checked, neither has ever maintained a decent profit margin.  not that
-->> that's all-important, but if you're a technology visionary who sells
-->> his vision...  shouldn't it... ummmmmm...  sell?
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yes. he will.  but i think it's got more to do with the glowsticks
you've had stuck in your mohawk for the past two months...  not the
crass patch.

vespa scooters and safety pins,
greg

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Eliot Stanton wrote:

-->are you gonna spit on me? cuz i've got a big crass logo on the back of my
-->jacket...
-->
-->> -----Original Message-----
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-->>
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-->> >and hit the big city so you can spit on all the panhandling folk.
-->>
-->> HEY!  the only homeless people i spit on are the ones with crass logos on
-->> their jackets!
-->>
-->> more conservative than advertised,
-->> mk
-->>
-->> ________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [mw] Festivals in the Midwest

DEMF

For info on last years.. go to:

http://www.freep.com/    


click search..  enter demf..   there are some articles that were in the 
freepress last year.

the demf site has been down since a lil after last yrs festival.



In a message dated 1/10/01 10:43:07 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
tmacld@yahoo.com writes:

<< OK midwest scene, fill me in on the acceptance of a
 major festival over there.
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Subject: RE: [mw] Hardcore

When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for all...
it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything to 
do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck too.


by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter is a 
dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!

whendee

Whendee Messick

still looking for pics

>===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
>You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
>think it's noise.
>
>TM
>
>
>
>
>--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>wrote:
>>
>> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
>> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
>> ok
>> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
>>
>> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
>> opinion is irrelevant.
>>
>> mk
>>
>>
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>are you gonna spit on me? cuz i've got a big crass logo on the back of my
>jacket...

don't ask me for money, pal, and you'll be saliva-free.  ;P

mk

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Hey now, don't knock the Big bacon Classic.......

nakedgirl wrote:

> When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for all...
> it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything to
> do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck too.
>
> by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter is a
> dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!
>
> whendee
>
> Whendee Messick
>
> still looking for pics
>
> >===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
> >You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
> >think it's noise.
> >
> >TM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
> >> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
> >> ok
> >> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
> >>
> >> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
> >> opinion is irrelevant.
> >>
> >> mk
> >>
> >>
> >________________________________________________________________________
> >> michael knight - stateside happy hardcore -
> >> www.americancheese.org
> >> michael@happy.hardcorps.org -
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> >>
> >
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>>I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
>>taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is ok
>>nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
>
>you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your opinion is irrelevant.


Especially since they can't decide if they would or wouldn't say it sucks.

hardcore to the bone,

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>
> >Maybe he should take a
> >cue from the Smashing Pumpkins and go out on top.
>
> i'm sorry, i thought smashing pumpkins ended things this year, not in
1996.

I knew that this was coming, but I think they left at the perfect time.
Oakenfold just recycled stuff for his new album, there is no innovation on
it.  The Pumpkins on the other hand were trying different things.  They
never recycled stuff from Melon Collie and tried totally new stuff on Adore
and Machina.

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i'm not a promoter - never claimed to be. i am however, one of your past & potential customers..
you posted your calendar to a public forum and i commented on it. this is what happens on a public
mailing list, perhaps you've noticed this phenomenon in the past? if you're so averse to negative
feedback, i would suggest you post your events to your own private mailing list. i'm sure you'll
rake in plenty of people so i don't see why my opinion matters so much to you. as for me
"delivering something better", well - that's a stale argument.. besides the fact that i just did a
PA at a loft party new year's eve.. music that, frankly, you're never going to hear at a "Lift"
event.  and besides all that, if you were a neurosurgeon and accidentally lobotomized a patient,
would that be your defense against the ensuing malpractice suit? "Well let's see YOU try it!"??
luckily, this isn't brain surgery but simply another dull calendar of performers who may not even
show up anyhow. (that's facts, btw, not my opinion.) 

i'll be glad to let you know the next time we play out.

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>I knew that this was coming, but I think they left at the perfect time.
>Oakenfold just recycled stuff for his new album, there is no innovation on
>it.  The Pumpkins on the other hand were trying different things.  They
>never recycled stuff from Melon Collie and tried totally new stuff on Adore
>and Machina.

yeah but it was hardly the top of their game.  and christ there were only 
like 2 of the original members still in the band!  heh.

nite,
mk

________________________________________________________________________
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:40:31 -0800 (PST), Futuristic Funk wrote:

>NEXO Alpha 

Drooling... =P'''

I've been waiting to hear a Nexo system @ a party

	- Joe

PS: Us Midwesterners don't take kindly to outside
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are planning a festival, make sure you collaborate
with a respected local promoter.  Other than that,
bring it on (and hire me for lighting and lasers =)


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no, you are most definately wrong...hard ass jungle is the best to fuck
to...get that polyrhythm action going!!!
j - symmetric
"hard trance, but maybe a little progressive cuz I like to make the girlies
cry"

nakedgirl said:

> When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for
all...
> it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything
to
> do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck too.
>
>
> by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter
is a
> dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!
>
> whendee
>
> Whendee Messick
>
> still looking for pics
>
> >===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
> >You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
> >think it's noise.
> >
> >TM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
> >> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
> >> ok
> >> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
> >>
> >> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
> >> opinion is irrelevant.
> >>
> >> mk
> >>
> >>
> >________________________________________________________________________
> >> michael knight - stateside happy hardcore -
> >> www.americancheese.org
> >> michael@happy.hardcorps.org -
> >> michael@americancheese.org
> >> ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
> >>
> >
> >
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:22:18 -0600, michael knight wrote:

That's nice.  Too bad you CAN'T buy a PS2.

	- Joe (loving his Dreamcast more than ever)


PS: I'm not knocking the PS2.  I'm sure it's great.
More like knocking Sony.  Why does the greatest
maker of consumer electronics have to be such a bitch ?

PPS: I hear the Dreamcast on a monitor via the
VGA convertor looks better than a PS2 on a TV.
Also, the Dreamcast broadband adaptor is out now !
SegaNet on DSL or cable modem - yeah !!!



>http://ps2.ign.com/news/29839.html
>
>mk
>________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [mw] What is IT?




>From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
>To: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] What is IT?
>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:44:06 -0500 (EST)
>
>On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Adam Meadows wrote:
>
>-->Anyway, the next 15 or so years should be exciting!  My thoughts are 
>that
>-->medical and computer technology will advance to a point that our 
>generation
>-->will be the first to have the potential to exist forever.
>
>have you read 'The Age of Spiritual Machines' by Ray Kurzweil.  you
>should.  cognitive sciences (read: impractically practical A.I.) will
>produce proper electronic brains.  plus always improving body
>replacement parts = the end of death  ...
>

No I haven't read that but I have heard of it.  I promised myself I wouldn't 
start reading another non-school related book until I finish Godel, Escher, 
Bach which I am having trouble making much progress with.  It too talks 
about AI and the like.  YOU should read that if you haven't.  ;)

I still often wrestle with the idea of transfering our consciosnesses into 
silicon...  The philosophical issues there are beasts that I have played 
with and I feel like I understand better after years of contemplation, but I 
still have yet to tame.  Right now, I think the most important problem in 
this area is to identify PRECISELY what it is that we "are", so that we 
could be sure that that essence is indeed IN whatever non-biological form we 
want to exist in.  I have ideas on that but they are not easily expressed 
via email...

Fortunately, even if solutions to the problems of consciousness/soul 
transfer are a far way off (or shown to be logical impossibilities), our 
traditional methods of extending life through the biological sciences have 
me optimistic.  I am 99% sure I will live to be at least 120 (barring any 
accidents) and once you reach that point, there really is no upper bound.

>of course the implication there is that this would be the death of
>breeding.  i always miss out on the good stuff...  like seeing Evita
>while it was still in theatres.
>

hahah, death of breeding perhaps but there will be other ways to obtain 
pleasure I assure you!

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From: <rvkeller@iupui.edu>
To: Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com>
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I never said this wouldn't happen.  I voted Libertarian, however Dubya
will not pass as many Nazi laws as Nader or Gore would have.  The greatest
would have been the licensing of me and my kind.  Trust me when I saw the
war on guns would be 10 times as bloodier than the war on drugs.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> Would you like to make a wager? I bet you that in four years, under "Dubya",
> there will be more laws, less liberty, higher taxes and more socialism. I am
> willing to bet $1000.
> 
> The smartest wolf wears sheep's clothing.
> 
> Noble
> 
> "Freedom is the only thing you can gain more of by giving it to others."
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rvkeller@iupui.edu [mailto:rvkeller@iupui.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:17 PM
> To: chrise@pubnix.org
> Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: [mw] Re: the greep party is not rvkeller's friend
> 
> 
> Socialist.  I am awaiting for their rise to power, then their downfall as
> my kind refuse to pay our taxes and turn the treat of violence aginst
> those who dare try to use force to make us pay.  This should be around
> 70 million or so people.  Lock and load, it's gonna get messy, oh wait,
> Bush won.  Now we just have to make sure he doesn't outlaw abortion.
> 
> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> 
> > 
> > nope, i don't care to explain anything.  
> > 
> > i just think you're jumping to conclusions when you use "the green party
> > is not your friend" in the subject line and then go on to make a huge
> > "expose" about how they have a *gasp* socialist agenda!
> > 
> > NO FUCKING SHIT, EINSTEIN.
> > 
> > socialists are my friend.  so is the green party.  please don't try to
> > tell me otherwise.  you can speak for nobody but yourself.
> > 
> > chris
> > 
> > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > Where in my below message did I mention Green Party?  Also, after
> reading
> > > their webpage I am allowed to make any assumptions I want.  Low and
> > > behold, their platform follows the various socialist groups that also
> ran
> > > presidential candidates.  However Nader was not part of the Green party,
> > > even though they endorsed him?  Maybe you can explain?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > mr. keller,
> > > > 
> > > > the green party may not be your friend, but please don't make any
> > > > assumptions as to its friendship with others.
> > > > 
> > > > unsubscribe mw-republican-rants
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Nader and his followers are socialist punks that want to take
> everything
> > > > > they can from the haves.  Since most poor people don't have
> > > > > internet/e-mail, taxing can begin.  Nader is pro-government in your
> ass,
> > > > > oh I mean big federal government, anti-gun, and anti-business.  His
> > > > > nickname should be Papa Smurf.  He wants the smurf society, where
> everyone
> > > > > will make $40K take home and live the same.  No one can be better or
> worse
> > > > > than anyone else.  I am so glad he didn't get his 5%.  Taxing
> e-mail?
> > > > > Give me a break.  Where was this idea when he was running for
> president?
> > > > > I wonder how many e-mail crazy college kids would have supported him
> then?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
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> > 
> > 
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Fuck the trolls (trolls due to the reason in the summer time, they live
under bridges) that harrass innocent people.  You want money, get a damn
job.  If you cleaver enough to make up a story about how your collcting
money for some sort of organization, your sure smart enough to operate a
fry cooker at white castle on the night shift (where these people are
always awake) and make $9/hr.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> 
> >have you met my friend Michael Knight?  you two should get together
> >and hit the big city so you can spit on all the panhandling folk.
> 
> HEY!  the only homeless people i spit on are the ones with crass logos on 
> their jackets!
> 
> more conservative than advertised,
> mk
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: [mw] New d 'n' b Track.. plus CD info..

Thanks to all you guys that have listeneded to the new track "Myoptic 
Camouflage".  Glad you liked it.  If you haven't heard it yet then check it 
out.  It's hard hitting d'n'b and definitely DARK!!  Just the way i like it!

here's the link:

"Myoptic Camouflage"
http://www.mp3.com/cause_n_effect

Some people have asked what i use to write this.  Here's the rundown:

Roland MC-505
Roland SP-808
Pioneer djm-500
Pioneer CDJ-500II cd decks
Phillips CD burner
2 older yamaha keyboards

i haven't gotten to the computer software stuff.  if anyone has any good 
suggestions of ones with some dark sounds in it let me know

CDs - I have 3 mixed cds all d'n'b.  I've given alot of the last one away.  
Most of you should have gotten it.  You guys in cali should have them REAL 
soon.  i sent them out around the christmas rush and you know how that is.  
I still have some more of that one to give out if anyone wants it.  As for 
the 1st 2..they $10 each.  If you buy them both together the it's just $15 
for the pair (yeah that right you save $5).  If i run out of free ones, and 
you still want one, that one is $5 by itself.  Let me know.

and i'm oouutt!!

jon / cause 'n' effect
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i like nothing better than seeing franjo beatmatch noise records.


he beatmatches so quick it's scary

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jes" <jes@pubnix.org>
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Subject: [mw] noise, yeah!


> 
> > You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
> > think it's noise.
> 
> and some people think noise is another form of musical experssion.
> 
> hmmm...didn't people call rock n roll noise once, a long time ago?
> what about experimental jazz?
> 
> sorry kid, calling something noise isn't necessarily insulting it. i
> happen to enjoy sitting back, relaxing and listening to some raging noise
> every now and again.
> 
> /j
> 
> 
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At 09:52 PM 1/10/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
>When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for all...
>it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything to 
>do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck too.

bull shit. you have never been properly fucked then *period* (implying
ultimate truth here).
Get over your naive thinking that *fast/hard* bumping is the end all be all
to sex, get a lil more complicated than that... how old are you? 8?
puhlease.  "hardcore IS..." wow what sophistication, shit PUT THE CRACK
PIPE DOWN.


that is all.


tad


>
>by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter
is a 
>dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!
>
>whendee
>
>Whendee Messick
>
>still looking for pics
>
>>===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
>>You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
>>think it's noise.
>>
>>TM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
>>> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
>>> ok
>>> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
>>>
>>> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
>>> opinion is irrelevant.
>>>
>>> mk
>>>
>>>
>>________________________________________________________________________
>>> michael knight - stateside happy hardcore -
>>> www.americancheese.org
>>> michael@happy.hardcorps.org -
>>> michael@americancheese.org
>>> ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
>>>
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Subject: [mw] FW: Legend @ Limelight Feb 1st 2001


Coalition, Distort 909
   & Digital Domain
           Present:

   Legend @ Limelight
Thursday Feb. 1st , 2001

        Main Room

Live pa By:  Neophyte
DJ Neophyte
Rob Gee
Siege
Sneaky Tiger

         Chapel

Menace: Old Skool Acid Set
Mumblez: Jungle Set
David Hilton
Electron-X

$20 @ door  $15 on list
Distort909@(212)615-6915

18 & over ID a must
Located @ 6th Ave & 20th St. NYC

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Subject: [mw] ECLECTIC HOUSE...live "ONIONZ" interview  DJ Chach & DJJordan in the mix

"ONIONZ"
(Electrik Soul, Siesta, imperial DUB, WB, Wha?, Manequin Odd)
New York, NY

LIVE INTERVIEW THIS WEEK

20 years in the mix.........
Guest DJ CHACH(Funky Robots,Acid Junkies,Exist Dance)
Debuing his remix on a 12" by Dada Munchamunkys(Exist Dance)

GREETINGS DANCE MUSIC LOVERS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

  For 1 year and 4 months the show "THE ECLECTIC HOUSE" has been giving
  the music to the people of Central California....

  Time to let the cat out of the bag...or ..well...share with the rest
  of the universe...

<<<THURSDAY NIGHT'S
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   WWW.NIBBLEBOX.COM then FRESNO STATE /KSFR FRESNO 90.7FM>>>

DJ JORDAN(Dimentional Transfer, Sphere(Ohio))  vibrates with, guides through 
and meditates with the audience as if the space between does not exist...,

HOUSE, DETROIT TECHNO, TRANCE oriented HOUSE, DISCO, BREAKS and ELECTRO are 
all welcome in this journey...

with 8 YEARS in the mix and 6 YEARS Touring The Country we're sure this will 
be worth your ears time....

as a bonus each week features givaways by DJ's from all over the USA and 
guest DJ's LIVE each week!

KEEP IT REAL>>>>>>>LOVE WHOLENESS UNITY INFINITY>>>>>>>


For any information please refer all to:

Dimentional Transfer
2089 W. Los Altos
Fresno Ca 93711-1330

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In a message dated 1/10/01 11:01:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
mgoshor1@purdue.edu writes:

<< Hey now, don't knock the Big bacon Classic....... >>

I got yer big bacon classic...

meep

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"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
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Subject: Re: [mw] LIFT-CINCINNATI (THURDAYS JAN/FEB 2001)

a: i dont work for clubhead, though from time to time i help out with
things-the same ive done for many promoters in the past...im just posting
the schedule as it was given to me...criticism is part of the game and
honest criticism is appreciated and encouraged, long as its truthful and not
just random bitching...i do copy emails and get them to bob if i see
something that needs his attention...if you feel strongly about something,
feel free to call or fax him @ 513.665.9999...im sure he would be interested
in what you have to say...b: i posted nothing criticising you or that was
averse in any way...i simply commented "step up and deliver something
better"  as an encouragement to you or anyone else who felt the same as you
that the scene in this area needs some help...on many levels, i agree with
you...finding cutting edge/shocking music doesnt happen...and if it did, i
dont think much support would be there...a one word "stale" post is
useless...i know you are more literate than that...i also know that you have
felt that the lift nights have been stale for awhile... thats ok, but it
brings me back to the original point of if things are so bad, what are you
doing to make them better...c: far as not hearing music like your live PA (i
havent heard it, but send me a link so i can listen) @ lift, you obviously
didnt see eva cazal (tresor) in december...neither did anyone else...what
you missed was an abstact electro/noise/techno combination......titonton was
there too...she played during prime time...yes, it scared people away but
personally, i was happy to see such crazy tracks get some exposure...bob has
probably booked 500+ individual djs through the lift nights...there is no
denying the fact that he has been supportive of a wide variety of djs, local
and international...he has been completely supportive of me personally, and
i dont think what i spin (techno/electro) appeals to a large audience like
trance or house...maybe one way you can change the percieved staleness is to
give bob a cd and ask for a booking...if you feel more comfortable, give me
one and ill present it to him and ill ask him for a booking for you...or,
you can just email me the next time you play out and ill try to get there to
check it out because personally i like challenging music...we can take this
private if you like after this...i think you might find on a musical level
we would probably agree on a lot of things...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, oh 45206
booking line: 513.766.2007 x1429
djoracle@onebox.com  www.djoracle.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Weinberg" <te_one@yahoo.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:22 PM
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> i'm not a promoter - never claimed to be. i am however, one of your past &
potential customers..
> you posted your calendar to a public forum and i commented on it. this is
what happens on a public
> mailing list, perhaps you've noticed this phenomenon in the past? if
you're so averse to negative
> feedback, i would suggest you post your events to your own private mailing
list. i'm sure you'll
> rake in plenty of people so i don't see why my opinion matters so much to
you. as for me
> "delivering something better", well - that's a stale argument.. besides
the fact that i just did a
> PA at a loft party new year's eve.. music that, frankly, you're never
going to hear at a "Lift"
> event.  and besides all that, if you were a neurosurgeon and accidentally
lobotomized a patient,
> would that be your defense against the ensuing malpractice suit? "Well
let's see YOU try it!"??
> luckily, this isn't brain surgery but simply another dull calendar of
performers who may not even
> show up anyhow. (that's facts, btw, not my opinion.)
>
> i'll be glad to let you know the next time we play out.


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> This fish is too smart to take your bait!
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> bah, in gran turismo you don't get guns, smokescreens, oil 
> slicks, or the 
> badass theme song!!
im humming that theme song as we speak

possibly my favorite game of all time.
ahh to be 6 again

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well erikka,
you for one could sure as hell laugh at yourself
 
no one is safe
 


 
This made me laugh...and hell, if you can't laugh at others, who can you
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> well...since its not happening for you, step up and
> deliver something better

y'know, i'm really getting sick of this. someone
states that whatever ravey thing that's going on this
week or that week isn't for them, and then somene
get's a splinter in their ass and says "well if you
think you can do something better, do it, or shut up."

this may not be a free country, but i am a free
citizen, and i reserve the right to like or dislike
whatever i damn please, regardless of my lack of
desire to "be a promoter."

oracle, if that's not what you're saying, sorry to use
your post for this rant, i'm just getting a little
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carry on.
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> selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
> had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that
> paid
> $40 to experience one of his sets. 

wow. there's $40 they're never gonna see again.

eew.
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> p.s.  is this the rebirth of mw-raves?  should i get used to 100+
> mw-mails a day?  or should i just wait 'til micah gets bored again and
> stops generating (directely and otherwise) 50% of that.
well our project at work has been implemented and starting monday we are
moving to a 24x6 schedule
in order to make sure it isn't fucked up so i'll be here on nights, that
will really cut back into my
mw-rave traffic.

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> You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
> think it's noise.
i think hardcore has artistic merit
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> i'll be glad to let you know the next time we play out.
ooooh me me!

posted to both ted and mw-raves because 
a- im lazy
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well val,
  there is always today...
don't count us out yet.
i've got two days to be as big an ass as possible before im not around here
during the day.
WATCH YOHSELF!

> are nuts! this might be, quite possibly, the highest volume 
> of e-mail i
> have ever recieved from this list in a day.
> that will be all.
> -val

> i have no sig file.
must be a pain in the ass typing THAT out every time you mail huh?

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$40 to see one dj spin? I mean I like Oakey and all, but you'd have a hard
time getting me to pay $40 to see a whole night of dj's.

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> selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
> had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that
> paid
> $40 to experience one of his sets. 

wow. there's $40 they're never gonna see again.

eew.
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So what's the topic of debate today??

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well val,
  there is always today...
don't count us out yet.
i've got two days to be as big an ass as possible before im not around here
during the day.
WATCH YOHSELF!

> are nuts! this might be, quite possibly, the highest volume 
> of e-mail i
> have ever recieved from this list in a day.
> that will be all.
> -val

> i have no sig file.
must be a pain in the ass typing THAT out every time you mail huh?

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> hmmm...didn't people call rock n roll noise once, a
> long time ago?
Rock n Roll aint noise polution, Rock n Roll ain't
gona die 
oops sorry, was listening to Back in Black in the car

> what about experimental jazz?
like Ornet Coleman (dope as fuck!)
or even when bebop artists that started taking big
band tunes and making their own improvisations,
totally changing the piece (Charlie Parker with
Cherokee), they were considered to be noise too by the
majority of America who was still listening to Benny
Goodman.
The thing is people, music is noise.  Its the form or
lack there of that makes that noise into expression,
art, music.  Without both melody and discource our
music would be dull as hell.
Paul Oakenfold may be able to create huge synth
soundscapes which are beutifull to some.  But who is
to say that distorted bass tones, white noise, and
squelching synths arent just as "musical".  
It all depends on the artist, his thoughts and
inspiration in the music.
Music should be an expression of the artist and what
he or she is trying to express to the listener (true
music anyway), and just because it is not melodic
doesn't mean that it doesn't have as much musicality,
meaning, and depth as something that is.
What it really all comes down to though folks is
personal taste.  You are the only judge of what you
like, and no one can tell you that the washing synth
or the screeching frequency that your digging on at
the moment is cream or crap.
I may give people a hard time for listening to certain
things (happy hardcore, progressive trance), but in
reality I could care less, because the only one who
has to like what I like is me.
Thats what makes this world great is the variety of
things and people to create and enjoy those things,
whatever they might be.  Otherwise we might be a world
of people listening to Benny Goodman all day and
watching Touched by an Angel every night.  Now what
fun would that be.

=====
PRAISE THE RHINO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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> So what's the topic of debate today??
i dunno
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Micah knows what he's talking about.

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> So what's the topic of debate today??
i dunno
say something stupid

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At 09:52 PM 1/10/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
>When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for
all...
>it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything
to 
>do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck too.

whatever happened to Barry White? Works for me everytime.

Noble

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> Micah knows what he's talking about.
well that was stupid
IF you were trying to be funny

come on noble, i'd have given you more credit than that.
i'd hope you could come up with something good to whine about today? and
this isn't going to be reduced to me making sense and you
uselessly trying to catch up.
cos that got old yesterday.


on and on till the break of don

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> The thing is people, music is noise.  Its the form or
> lack there of that makes that noise into expression,
> art, music.  Without both melody and discource our
> music would be dull as hell.
thats a good thought.

noise being sounds that have no definable pattern
thats why i love noise, because when you listen to it long enough you start
to notice patterns that maybe aren't there
but you hear them anyway.
we bring the form to the noise as the listener, its much more urgent than
when someone makes a track and they(the producer/artist)
brings form to the noise for us.

nice

b-i-z

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> >do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the 
> best to fuck too.
> 
> whatever happened to Barry White? Works for me everytime.
she said FUCK not
"dance naked in front of a mirror for all hours of the night"


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One other note, not to sound hypocritical or anything,
because if you like Paul Oakenfold, more power to ya,
but just because someone has 5000 people coming to see
him at $40 a head doesn't mean that he is "great".
People do have a tendency to go and listen to what is
feed to them, if this weren't true their would be no
major record labels and whole corporations dedicated
to advertising certain acts and groups.
Don't let 5000 sheep tell you whats good.

--- Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I guess Oakie had nothing to do with the song
> selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
> had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that
> paid
> $40 to experience one of his sets. I guess Oakie
> must
> be dreaming when he's on a plane flying all over the
> world to spin.
> 
> Yeah you're right. The guys sucks.
> 
> YEAH RIGHT
> 
> TM
> 
> 
> darwin@veriomail.com writes
> > nonononononono, let's re-write that...
> > 
> > you've seen oakie play twice, and both times, his
> > *records* kicked ass, in
> > your view of things...
> > 
> > Oakie stood there chit-chatting, and every once
> and
> > a while moved the fader
> > over, oakie does not mix...
> > 
> > Oakie should head the wedding DJ's union...
> > 
> > ;)
> > 
> > darw_n
> > 
> > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> > 
> > search for "djdarwin" on napster
> > www.sphereproductions.com
> > www.mannequinodd.com
> > www.mp3.com/darw_n
> > 
> 
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My whole point yesterday was simply that a large percentages of drug
overdoses are due to tainted drugs. That's what I've found to be true, and
we can argue over the details but I'm still waiting for you to prove me
wrong on that point.

It's funny how conveniently the word whine gets thrown into text whenever
there is a disagreement on something.

Noble

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:04 AM
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> Micah knows what he's talking about.
well that was stupid
IF you were trying to be funny

come on noble, i'd have given you more credit than that.
i'd hope you could come up with something good to whine about today? and
this isn't going to be reduced to me making sense and you
uselessly trying to catch up.
cos that got old yesterday.


on and on till the break of don

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see?? you just keep making these half-assed remarks.
now i'm going to have to "discuss" with you all day
again.

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  My only time seeing Oakey was in a club here in Chicago and while the set
was nice, and I got in free and all, I can remember his ego filled the whole
room and all the Pure kids who were throwing the party seemed to feed off it
and act like they were important or something. It's hard to explain. 
  Two nights later I saw Sasha spin at the same club and there was none of
the ego bullshit going around. The  whole vibe was much better and so was
the music.

Noble

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [mw] Oakie


One other note, not to sound hypocritical or anything,
because if you like Paul Oakenfold, more power to ya,
but just because someone has 5000 people coming to see
him at $40 a head doesn't mean that he is "great".
People do have a tendency to go and listen to what is
feed to them, if this weren't true their would be no
major record labels and whole corporations dedicated
to advertising certain acts and groups.
Don't let 5000 sheep tell you whats good.

--- Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I guess Oakie had nothing to do with the song
> selection to crowd reaction ratio either. I guess he
> had nothing to do with with the 5000 people that
> paid
> $40 to experience one of his sets. I guess Oakie
> must
> be dreaming when he's on a plane flying all over the
> world to spin.
> 
> Yeah you're right. The guys sucks.
> 
> YEAH RIGHT
> 
> TM
> 
> 
> darwin@veriomail.com writes
> > nonononononono, let's re-write that...
> > 
> > you've seen oakie play twice, and both times, his
> > *records* kicked ass, in
> > your view of things...
> > 
> > Oakie stood there chit-chatting, and every once
> and
> > a while moved the fader
> > over, oakie does not mix...
> > 
> > Oakie should head the wedding DJ's union...
> > 
> > ;)
> > 
> > darw_n
> > 
> > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> > 
> > search for "djdarwin" on napster
> > www.sphereproductions.com
> > www.mannequinodd.com
> > www.mp3.com/darw_n
> > 
> 
> 
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> My whole point yesterday was simply that a large percentages of drug
> overdoses are due to tainted drugs. That's what I've found to 
> be true, and
> we can argue over the details but I'm still waiting for you 
> to prove me
> wrong on that point.
nah thats a tired topic
we rotate on a 24 hour basis, if thats too high paced for you, move on bucko
besides, i can't gather one iota of care about that topic
and you aren't nearly entertaining enough for me to "fake it"

> It's funny how conveniently the word whine gets thrown into 
> text whenever
> there is a disagreement on something.
stop whining
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what about the monkey? teach it how to post...


ooh oooh ooh eeek ekk,
-t

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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: The Green Party is not your friend

> p.s.  is this the rebirth of mw-raves?  should i get used to 100+
> mw-mails a day?  or should i just wait 'til micah gets bored again and
> stops generating (directely and otherwise) 50% of that.
well our project at work has been implemented and starting monday we are
moving to a 24x6 schedule
in order to make sure it isn't fucked up so i'll be here on nights, that
will really cut back into my
mw-rave traffic.

maybe even drop the list down to 100 or so posts a day

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what a copout!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:16 AM
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> My whole point yesterday was simply that a large percentages of drug
> overdoses are due to tainted drugs. That's what I've found to 
> be true, and
> we can argue over the details but I'm still waiting for you 
> to prove me
> wrong on that point.
nah thats a tired topic
we rotate on a 24 hour basis, if thats too high paced for you, move on bucko
besides, i can't gather one iota of care about that topic
and you aren't nearly entertaining enough for me to "fake it"

> It's funny how conveniently the word whine gets thrown into 
> text whenever
> there is a disagreement on something.
stop whining
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speaking of jazz... (trust me, someone mentioned it)

if anyone is just beside themselves trying to figure
out what to buy me for my birthday this year (4.24)
the box set of the series "Jazz" presented on PBS this
week would be just the thing. Someone else could then
get me the companion book.

Thanks! Carry On!
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Wait a minute, Paul Oakenfold is great for what he
spins. He's damn good and he's had alot of success
doing what he does. If he wasn't good, he wouldn't
have the success that he's having. Now granted Trance
may not be your thing, and that's cool, but to say
he's not "great" isn't right. I'm sure that you have
DJs that you think are great and the Trance crowd may
say that they suck. 

Point is Oakie played in 2 clubs here that normally do
2000 people on Saturday night. On his night they stuff
5000 in the joint. Obviously he's an attraction. I
really don't think people would spin $40 to if the guy
was just "alright".

TM


--- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> One other note, not to sound hypocritical or
> anything,
> because if you like Paul Oakenfold, more power to
> ya,
> but just because someone has 5000 people coming to
> see
> him at $40 a head doesn't mean that he is "great".
> People do have a tendency to go and listen to what
> is
> feed to them, if this weren't true their would be no
> major record labels and whole corporations dedicated
> to advertising certain acts and groups.
> Don't let 5000 sheep tell you whats good.
> 


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the car in front of me this morning on the way to work had the license
plate...

"B A RHINO".

do you yahoo?
-t

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> Point is Oakie played in 2 clubs here that normally do
> 2000 people on Saturday night. On his night they stuff
> 5000 in the joint. Obviously he's an attraction. I
> really don't think people would spin $40 to if the guy
> was just "alright".
Oakenfold is GOOD...
hes good at drawing crowds
hes good at pleasing crowds
if you consider what a dj is supposed to do he is good
but i think people are discussing his technical abilities
again a result of 
knowing too much too appreciate it
they know he isn't doing a goddamn thing so they dont think him a good dj
they are looking at the process
while you examine the results

yer both right

and therefore
you are all wrong

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> if anyone is just beside themselves trying to figure
> out what to buy me for my birthday this year (4.24)
> the box set of the series "Jazz" presented on PBS this
> week would be just the thing. Someone else could then
> get me the companion book.
isnt that like 167 dollars or something?
i may chip in with some coworkers to buy it

but if you want something REALLY cool buy this:

checkit

http://www.npr.org/programs/lnfsound/

heard it on npr driving from wisconsin to chicago post-new years
its awesome i bought it

you should too

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> Point is Oakie played in 2 clubs here that normally
> do
> 2000 people on Saturday night. On his night they
> stuff
> 5000 in the joint. Obviously he's an attraction. I
> really don't think people would spin $40 to if the
> guy
> was just "alright".

Actually I do think that people would pay $40 to go
see someone if they thought he was alright, because
people have a tendency to sometimes just listen to
what is spoon fed to them.
And that was the point of my last post, not that Paul
Oakenfold sucks.  As I've said before, my opinion is
irrelivent to anyone else than me here.

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> if anyone is just beside themselves trying to figure
> out what to buy me for my birthday this year (4.24)
> the box set of the series "Jazz" presented on PBS
> this
> week would be just the thing. Someone else could
> then
> get me the companion book.

Fucking dito for me!!!!!
I just finally got to see a portion of it last night,
and all I have to say is phenominal!


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> what about the monkey? teach it how to post...
if i had a monkey that could post for me no one would notice
thats too pathetic

i could always find some way of annoying millions, but fuckit, it may only
be a few weeks
i'll just post at night between 3rd-shift-naptimes and no one will reply
it will be great fun


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how about a bot??

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> what about the monkey? teach it how to post...
if i had a monkey that could post for me no one would notice
thats too pathetic

i could always find some way of annoying millions, but fuckit, it may only
be a few weeks
i'll just post at night between 3rd-shift-naptimes and no one will reply
it will be great fun


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> see?? you just keep making these half-assed remarks.
> now i'm going to have to "discuss" with you all day
> again.
wait a second
pixie, did you just suggest i don't know what im talking about?

if so, i hope you don't expect me to argue

> > Micah knows what he's talking about.

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Subject: [mw] i was at activ8 last night, were you?

well i want to announce that for the second week in a row i was neither
abducted nor spanked
and i went to activ8 last night

that makes becky a wuss

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--- Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wait a minute, Paul Oakenfold is great for what he
> spins. 

well, then. if you say so, then it must be universally
true. please.

> he's had alot of success
> doing what he does. If he wasn't good, he wouldn't
> have the success that he's having.

success does not equal meritable talent. christ, look
at cher. she's been doing that for years, and is
"successful."

> may not be your thing, and that's cool, but to say
> he's not "great" isn't right. 

yes it is. he's not great. to me great is someone who
can find that elusive third track in two records. he
can't do that, pussy ass trance or not.

> I'm sure that you have
> DJs that you think are great and the Trance crowd
> may
> say that they suck. 

absolutely. and i stand by their right to believe they
suck 100%. unlike you, i do not take personal offense
to people's personal opinions and tastes in music.

> Point is Oakie played in 2 clubs here that normally
> do
> 2000 people on Saturday night. On his night they
> stuff
> 5000 in the joint. 

what's your point?

> Obviously he's an attraction. 

okay so that is your point. so is bad boy bill. so is
dj scribble. so is yanni. so is britney spears. the
fact remains that there are hundreds of dj's and live
performers out there with more talent and artistic
merit in their calloused fingertips than oakenfold
will possess in his entire life. but they aren't a
household name. high school ravers trying hard to fit
in with mommy and daddy's allowance money are what
makes someone a household name. good commercial
marketing on mtv makes someone a household name. "as
seen on tv" commercials pushing his latest cd make him
a household name. and that's what sells him. trance
music aside, sorry you got suckered. it happens all
the time. welcome to the land of media whores.

> I really don't think people would spin $40 to if the
> guy was just "alright".

i do. in fact, i've seen them pay more for dj's that
just downright suck. personally, i wouldn't pay $20
for a party that has less than 3 people i want to see
play, unless of course, there is one major act such as
umek or orbital or likewise that would be a rare
appearance. in fact, i'd probably pay $40 for either
of those two, simply because orbital is an incredible
live act that in my 8 years of listening to them i've
never had an opportunity to see. 

besides, never doubt the power of the mindless
consumer. after all, there was nelson.
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> how about a bot??
you really have no concept of humour do you?

a quick lesson:

monkey == funny
robot != funny
male monkey named deborah cox == funnier

noticing a pattern?

godel-escher-bachin' it

> > what about the monkey? teach it how to post...
> if i had a monkey that could post for me no one would notice
> thats too pathetic
> 
> i could always find some way of annoying millions, but 
> fuckit, it may only
> be a few weeks
> i'll just post at night between 3rd-shift-naptimes and no one 
> will reply
> it will be great fun
> 
> 
> with all my heart,
>   the man in the yellow hat

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> Fucking dito for me!!!!!
> I just finally got to see a portion of it last
> night,
> and all I have to say is phenominal!

i watched a couple of nights ago and got to see the
short segment on the Austin High Gang. Most of the
entire segment was about Louis Armstrong and his
influences from King Oliver, to his eventual move to
New York. I've missed the rest of the series, unless
it's also on tonight and tomorrow, and i've *got* to
have that set!

*calm*
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Subject: Re: [mw] i was at activ8 last night, were you?

that makes me drunk by 9:30, and therefore unable to drive the 45 minutes
necessary to get to activ8.

we'll see after i get back from florida who's a wuss...

besides when i talked to you, i was still "undecided" about the whole
matter.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> well i want to announce that for the second week in a row i was neither
> abducted nor spanked
> and i went to activ8 last night
>
> that makes becky a wuss
>
> thank you

-- 
-Becky =)

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sometimes i'm up then.  i don't sleep regular anymore.  i noticed that last
night was one of the only nights i haven't fallen asleep on the couch
working.

i either need a sexual partner that is not attached to my wrist or maybe a
monkey to tell me when to go to bed.

HEY WAIT A MINUTE!

sick thoughts from my mind to yours,
-t

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> what about the monkey? teach it how to post...
if i had a monkey that could post for me no one would notice
thats too pathetic

i could always find some way of annoying millions, but fuckit, it may only
be a few weeks
i'll just post at night between 3rd-shift-naptimes and no one will reply
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who was trying to be funny? I was serious. When I'm trying to be funny,
you'll know it.

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> how about a bot??
you really have no concept of humour do you?

a quick lesson:

monkey == funny
robot != funny
male monkey named deborah cox == funnier

noticing a pattern?

godel-escher-bachin' it

> > what about the monkey? teach it how to post...
> if i had a monkey that could post for me no one would notice
> thats too pathetic
> 
> i could always find some way of annoying millions, but 
> fuckit, it may only
> be a few weeks
> i'll just post at night between 3rd-shift-naptimes and no one 
> will reply
> it will be great fun
> 
> 
> with all my heart,
>   the man in the yellow hat

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hmm, what? i'm sorry, did you say something?

i didn't say anything about you...you must have
misheard me

/me runs and thinks about the moment when shawne gets
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list????"
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> wait a second
> pixie, did you just suggest i don't know what im
> talking about?
> 
> if so, i hope you don't expect me to argue


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> okay so that is your point. so is bad boy bill. so is
> dj scribble. so is yanni. so is britney spears. the

kenny g is SOOOOO much cooler than yanni


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> that makes me drunk by 9:30, and therefore unable to drive 
that makes me jealous

> we'll see after i get back from florida who's a wuss...
you gonna go into some spring training?

> besides when i talked to you, i was still "undecided" about the whole
> matter.
well im "decided" that you are a wussy

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> who was trying to be funny? I was serious. When I'm trying to 
> be funny,
> you'll know it.
why? will you warn us first?

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> hmm, what? i'm sorry, did you say something?
probably not, i dont even know anymore
i think my posting to mw-raves has become second nature, 
i have no thought processes concerning this list
its just, say something, send, read, say something, send, read, blah blah

> i didn't say anything about you...you must have
> misheard me
NO! YOU TYPED I NO HEAR! I READ! YA YA YA!

> /me runs and thinks about the moment when shawne gets
> home tonight and screams "50,423,567 e-mails to the
> list????"
> pixie


sincerely,
  50,423,568

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> sometimes i'm up then.  i don't sleep regular anymore.  i 
> noticed that last
> night was one of the only nights i haven't fallen asleep on the couch
> working.
jesus man
you need regular sleep, i dont get much of it but the people i know that do
seem really healthy
i have a feeling this new schedule will gain me a few hours more of sleep
every night

> i either need a sexual partner that is not attached to my 
> wrist or maybe a
> monkey to tell me when to go to bed.
ahhh...don't we all?

> HEY WAIT A MINUTE!
no.
no.
no.

> sick thoughts from my mind to yours,
make the bad man stop

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Only if you'll warn us everytime you are trying to be sarcastic.

Deal?

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> who was trying to be funny? I was serious. When I'm trying to 
> be funny,
> you'll know it.
why? will you warn us first?

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > that makes me drunk by 9:30, and therefore unable to drive
> that makes me jealous

well if you knew why, you wouldn't be so quick to jump on the jealous
train. I've had a hard week. Thanks to administrative errors on both of my
majors, I almost didn't get a degree until May, thus not allowing me to do
what i really wanted to... Though things will be finialized today, and
thusly worked out.

>
> > we'll see after i get back from florida who's a wuss...
> you gonna go into some spring training?
>

NO, I'm going to Disney World for a week, since my husband has a business
convention down there. =P~ and then we're going to tampa for another week,
just him and me. we even have a condo on the beach... Anything you want me
to tell mickey or goofy for you???


> > besides when i talked to you, i was still "undecided" about the whole
> > matter.
> well im "decided" that you are a wussy
>

yeah, better to be a wussy than a pussy-bitch like yourself.

-- 
-Becky =)

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I've missed the rest of the series, unless
> it's also on tonight and tomorrow, and i've *got* to
> have that set!

Its on all of next week too, this series is long, and
rightfully so.
Probably going to be one of the most complete
documentaries on a music that has lasted more than a century.

=====
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> Only if you'll warn us everytime you are trying to be sarcastic.
 the problem doesnt seem to be other understanding my sarcasm, more us
understanding your idea of funny

well there goes my assumption that the majority of the list was pretty in
touch with when i was being sarcastic or not.
i dont think thats a real problem

when in doubt, assume im being sarcastic
then if im not and im calling you something mean, you won't get upset


> Deal?
no
that would make me greedy

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> well if you knew why, you wouldn't be so quick to jump on the jealous
> train. I've had a hard week. Thanks to administrative errors 
> on both of my
> majors, I almost didn't get a degree until May, thus not 
> allowing me to do
> what i really wanted to... Though things will be finialized today, and
> thusly worked out.
well then you need to drink again tonight in order to celebrate
ahh the wonders of alcohol


> Anything you want me
> to tell mickey or goofy for you???
nah i havent spoken to that side of my family in so long, it would just be
weird

> > well im "decided" that you are a wussy
> yeah, better to be a wussy than a pussy-bitch like yourself.
pussy-bitch?

HA!

im bitch to no pussy

you got that shit backwards yoh


oh god, im so stupid

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you said it, not me...

dumbass.

> oh god, im so stupid
>

-- 
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Subject: [mw] rush magazine :(

one of my favourite websites has taken a horrible horrible downward turn.  :~~(

http://rushmagazine.com/displayarticle.php?id=243

today is a sad day for the internet,
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> you said it, not me...
well i didn't think you could spell it

> dumbass.

> > oh god, im so stupid


doesn't anyone else wonder why i hit send sometimes?


by the way if you want to insult me, don't call me stupid
either i already know i am
or i am very sure im not
or i have already confused myself to the point that it doesnt matter anyway

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From mw-raves-return-13958-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 11 15:32:15 2001
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i couldn't think of this yesterday, i think it was called peter gunn, innit?

mk

At 08:32 AM 1/11/2001 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
> > bah, in gran turismo you don't get guns, smokescreens, oil
> > slicks, or the
> > badass theme song!!
>im humming that theme song as we speak
>
>possibly my favorite game of all time.
>ahh to be 6 again
>
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From mw-raves-return-13959-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 11 15:36:56 2001
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yep

na na na na na na nuh na na na na na na na nuh na waaaaaah waaaaaaaaah .....
waaaaaah waaaaaaaaah .....

na na na na a a a a a a na nuh na ....


something like that...

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i couldn't think of this yesterday, i think it was called peter gunn, innit?

mk

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>
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>ahh to be 6 again
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>$40 to see one dj spin? I mean I like Oakey and all, but you'd have a hard
>time getting me to pay $40 to see a whole night of dj's.

if i pay $40 there'd better be drinks, strippers, and lap dances involved.

mk
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>"Stand for something or fall for everything."

sit on a flagpole.

mk

ps you got the cliche wrong
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> if i pay $40 there'd better be drinks, strippers, and lap 
> dances involved.
what about a concept car?
http://www.4adodge.com/autoshow/news/hemi.html

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this is from whendee she sent it to me only intending it to go to the list
so i'll forward my reply too because i am lazy as well

see you soon,
  butterfingers


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:46 AM
To: Topping, Micah
Subject: RE: [mw] Hardcore


hey do  alazy gal a favor and foward that last email from me to the lsit...i

meant for everyybody to see it

and i am looking for pics of me that anyone has,,,guess i should make that 
more specfic

wendy



>===== Original Message From "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> =====
>> Thank you micah for understanding the point, hardore best for
>> FUCKING...there
>> is a difference between fukin/sex/lovemakin/quikies in the
>> bathroom. And no i
>> am not 8 and there is more to hardcore then the bass
>> line..you can move to
>> that too..but the bass gets you all hot bothered.
>
>hey i totally agree with you
>everything has a time and a place and fucking gets in the lineup whenever
it
>wants.
>thats why i love hardcore, you don't have to understand it or try and
>"interpret"
>you just have to feel it, its very simple and primal
>and lacks a lot of all that pretention
>
>
>> and barry white?..i cant even comment on that one
>i dont think anyone needs to
>
>> >do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the
>> >> best to fuck too.
>> >>
>> >> whatever happened to Barry White? Works for me everytime.
>> >she said FUCK not
>> >"dance naked in front of a mirror for all hours of the night"
	>> >
>> >
>> >warmin' up
>
>
>
>> Whendee Messick
>> still looking for pics
>what kind of pics are you looking for?

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>if anyone is just beside themselves trying to figure
>out what to buy me for my birthday this year (4.24)
>the box set of the series "Jazz" presented on PBS this
>week would be just the thing. Someone else could then
>get me the companion book.

we should all pitch in and get her the boxed set of the PBS series "the 
1900 house" instead, which i watched every week while living in 
hi-we-don't-have-cable-or-the-WB ney, ohio.

m 1900 k
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>like Ornet Coleman (dope as fuck!)

has anyone ever listened to the album "spy vs spy" on elektra 
musician?  this is some fucking nutty, off-the-wall, 
give-you-an-avant-garde-headache stuff.  it's john zorn in one channel and 
tim berne in the other, playing ornette coleman tunes.  i don't think i 
could ever get through the thing in one listen.  i'm not slating any of 
those three, i'm just saying that it was pretty out there, and definitely 
worth checking out...but not something you're likely to listen to over and 
over.

>The thing is people, music is noise.

actually there are definitions of music and noise that i remember learning 
in grade 8 science class, heh.  electronic artists who call what they make 
"noise" are actually making "music" because there is some sort of 
arrangement going on there, even if it's mostly done on the fly.  "noise" 
is what goes on in a busy airport or at the mall.

mk

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so what is the cliche??

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>"Stand for something or fall for everything."

sit on a flagpole.

mk

ps you got the cliche wrong
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>what? you guys don't like Nelson?

matthew and gunnar?

mk, can't live without your love and affection, can't face another nite on 
his own

ps i'd give up my pride to save me from being aloooo-ooo-one.
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> so what is the cliche??
i THINK it is
"if you don't stand up for something you will fall for anything"

or something like that, but it is different from what you wrote

> >"Stand for something or fall for everything."
> 
> sit on a flagpole.
> 
> mk
> 
> ps you got the cliche wrong

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isn't it "lean up against something or you'll fall all over everyone, you
drunken bastard"

or maybe "stand up against something, sit down, fight fight fight".

-t

-----Original Message-----
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> so what is the cliche??
i THINK it is
"if you don't stand up for something you will fall for anything"

or something like that, but it is different from what you wrote

> >"Stand for something or fall for everything."
> 
> sit on a flagpole.
> 
> mk
> 
> ps you got the cliche wrong

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I saw Gunnar on the street corner being a ho when I was going to the crack
house the other day to get my dosage. When I asked him where his brother
was, he pointed up to a window where Richard Simmons was drawing the shades
closed.

Boy, those stars sure know how to live, don't they?

Noble


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>what? you guys don't like Nelson?

matthew and gunnar?

mk, can't live without your love and affection, can't face another nite on 
his own

ps i'd give up my pride to save me from being aloooo-ooo-one.
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Well, whatever the popular book says...

I know this is the original, because I made it up myself.

Noble

"Stand for something or fall for everything."

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> so what is the cliche??
i THINK it is
"if you don't stand up for something you will fall for anything"

or something like that, but it is different from what you wrote

> >"Stand for something or fall for everything."
> 
> sit on a flagpole.
> 
> mk
> 
> ps you got the cliche wrong

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anything, not everything.  "a man has to stand for something or he will 
fall for anything."  bah.  cliches.

seek the glory of ALL, or else wallow in NONE for eternity.

allroy

At 09:45 AM 1/11/2001 -0600, Noble Long wrote:
>so what is the cliche??
>
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> >"Stand for something or fall for everything."
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>
>ps you got the cliche wrong
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--- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Its on all of next week too, this series is long,
> and
> rightfully so.
> Probably going to be one of the most complete
> documentaries on a music that has lasted more than a
> century.


it is not just the most compete documentary on music
but critics have acclaimed it to be the best
documentary to date of any subject.  Each night is
great in itself but if you are watching the whole
thing ... they retouch on so many artist at so many
different angles... wow I am getting the box set for
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to do it!!!!

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... wow I am getting the box set for
myself even if I have to go without food for a month
to do it!!!!

ALPha 

haven't you ever heard of Napster?

Noble

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this looks cool enough that it should hopefully raise the bar to a point 
where there will be an mp3 player that i actually want to spend my money on 
by the end of 2001.

http://formen.ign.com/news/29891.html

mk
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no, what's it like?
line 2

taking it out on everyone,
-t

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haven't you ever heard of Napster?

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
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> 
> ... wow I am getting the box set for
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> to do it!!!!
> 
> ALPha 
> 
> haven't you ever heard of Napster?
> 
> Noble


ummm not music box set vid and the vid clips on
napster suck my f****n ass!!!!  so no napster for me 
on this baby it is the $150 box set for me or it just
isnt the same!!!!

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So, is it a boxed video set, enhanced cd's or what? Don't leave us in the
dark.

Noble

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> ... wow I am getting the box set for
> myself even if I have to go without food for a month
> to do it!!!!
> 
> ALPha 
> 
> haven't you ever heard of Napster?
> 
> Noble


ummm not music box set vid and the vid clips on
napster suck my f****n ass!!!!  so no napster for me 
on this baby it is the $150 box set for me or it just
isnt the same!!!!

ALPha


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So would Brian Eno's "Music for Airports" be music or noise or both?

All these genre's really confuse me....

Noble



actually there are definitions of music and noise that i remember learning 
in grade 8 science class, heh.  electronic artists who call what they make 
"noise" are actually making "music" because there is some sort of 
arrangement going on there, even if it's mostly done on the fly.  "noise" 
is what goes on in a busy airport or at the mall.

mk

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> So, is it a boxed video set, enhanced cd's or what? Don't 
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> dark.
i think you are the only one in the dark,
 please stop speaking for mw-raves.

only i have the audacity to do that.

"we" say, "you" suck

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> So would Brian Eno's "Music for Airports" be music or noise or both?
it would be sound.

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Subject: [mw] RE:music to screw to (was: Hardcore)

Personally, i prefer some Autechre when i'm getting my freek on. Or certain 
cuts from "sheet one." Or Biggie Smalls feat. R Kelly "fucking you tonight" 
that one's prolly my favorite, actaully. Unless I'm feeling really saucy, 
and then I put on the New Kids.
/me references that scene in Mall rats.
Happy fucking!



>
>At 09:52 PM 1/10/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
> >When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for 
>all...
> >it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything 
>to
> >do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck 
>too.
>
>bull shit. you have never been properly fucked then *period* (implying
>ultimate truth here).
>Get over your naive thinking that *fast/hard* bumping is the end all be all
>to sex, get a lil more complicated than that... how old are you? 8?
>puhlease.  "hardcore IS..." wow what sophistication, shit PUT THE CRACK
>PIPE DOWN.
>
>
>that is all.
>
>
>tad
>
>
> >
> >by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter
>is a
> >dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!
> >
> >whendee
> >
> >Whendee Messick
> >
> >still looking for pics
> >
> >>===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
> >>You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
> >>think it's noise.
> >>
> >>TM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> >>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
> >>> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
> >>> ok
> >>> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
> >>>
> >>> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
> >>> opinion is irrelevant.
> >>>
> >>> mk
> >>>
> >>>
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> So, is it a boxed video set, enhanced cd's or what?
> Don't leave us in the
> dark.
> 
same boxed set as Pixie mentioned it is a box video
set of "Jazz" the documentary!! the who 10 part
series.  Ok I know I read previous posts and took
except from them but have you been following? :O)

Jazz the greatest docu made

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It is also available on DVD and you can buy the set of
CD's with the music from the documentary.

--- A Grewe <alphak10@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> > So, is it a boxed video set, enhanced cd's or
> what?
> > Don't leave us in the
> > dark.
> > 
> same boxed set as Pixie mentioned it is a box video
> set of "Jazz" the documentary!! the who 10 part
> series.  Ok I know I read previous posts and took
> except from them but have you been following? :O)
> 
> Jazz the greatest docu made
> 
> ALPha
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>So would Brian Eno's "Music for Airports" be music or noise or both?

neither.

>All these genre's really confuse me....

obviously.

mk
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Subject: [mw] RE:jazz docu (was:noise, yeah!)

Has anyone else been watching this series? Fucking amazing. Truly. I watched 
the first installment with tears in my eyes. I'm getting the boxed set. 
{Plus, witha  trip to New Orleans coming up for me, the first installment 
gave me plenty of good ideas for historic places to visit.


>
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>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Oakie

look,

all I'm pointing out is that it his records that are great (in a trance fans
eyes) all he is doing is deciding where to put them, and when to wave his
hands in the air...

A real DJ does way more than that...

And your view about his success.  There's people called publicists, where
they are paid to make you seem HUGE.  Many of the cover articles in Urb are
paid for, not earned.  The top 100 is all bought out.  It's a publicity
game, it's how entertainment business works...

make yourself *seems* big, and you will be big...

It's a formula...

And Oakie is following that formula to the dotted "i"

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

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> Wait a minute, Paul Oakenfold is great for what he
> spins. He's damn good and he's had alot of success
> doing what he does. If he wasn't good, he wouldn't
> have the success that he's having. Now granted Trance
> may not be your thing, and that's cool, but to say
> he's not "great" isn't right. I'm sure that you have
> DJs that you think are great and the Trance crowd may
> say that they suck.
>
> Point is Oakie played in 2 clubs here that normally do
> 2000 people on Saturday night. On his night they stuff
> 5000 in the joint. Obviously he's an attraction. I
> really don't think people would spin $40 to if the guy
> was just "alright".
>
> TM
>
>
> --- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > One other note, not to sound hypocritical or
> > anything,
> > because if you like Paul Oakenfold, more power to
> > ya,
> > but just because someone has 5000 people coming to
> > see
> > him at $40 a head doesn't mean that he is "great".
> > People do have a tendency to go and listen to what
> > is
> > feed to them, if this weren't true their would be no
> > major record labels and whole corporations dedicated
> > to advertising certain acts and groups.
> > Don't let 5000 sheep tell you whats good.
> >
>
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Subject: Re: [mw] RE:jazz docu (was:noise, yeah!)

Plus, just to keep this on-topic, I was lsitenig last night when they 
replayed some old radio footage, during which the radio announcer described 
Duke Ellington as "the king of rave music."
Who knew?



>
>Has anyone else been watching this series? Fucking amazing. Truly. I 
>watched
>the first installment with tears in my eyes. I'm getting the boxed set.
>{Plus, witha  trip to New Orleans coming up for me, the first installment
>gave me plenty of good ideas for historic places to visit.
>
>
>>
>>--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
>> > So, is it a boxed video set, enhanced cd's or what?
>> > Don't leave us in the
>> > dark.
>> >
>>same boxed set as Pixie mentioned it is a box video
>>set of "Jazz" the documentary!! the who 10 part
>>series.  Ok I know I read previous posts and took
>>except from them but have you been following? :O)
>>
>>Jazz the greatest docu made
>>
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Subject: [mw] Re: PR (WAS:Oakie)

I'm not comment on Oakie specifically, but...

Take it from soemone with a cover article set to be published in one of 
"those" music magazines (one I'm sure many of you read) next month... (and, 
ironoically, about this very subject!!)

The publicity/public relations industry can make or break someone. As a 
writer, I've played the game:

"Okay I can get you that interview with so and so if you can get reviews of 
these three cds we're promoting in the issue..."

(only problem is I'm HONEST about the music.)

In any case, talent is of little relevance, although occasionally someone 
with loads of it can ashew the industry and have success on the merits of 
their gift alone.

But, make no mistake, there are THRONGS of people out there whose job it is 
to MAKE YOU like an artist and spend money on that artist's product.


>
>And your view about his success.  There's people called publicists, where
>they are paid to make you seem HUGE.  Many of the cover articles in Urb are
>paid for, not earned.  The top 100 is all bought out.  It's a publicity
>game, it's how entertainment business works...
>
>make yourself *seems* big, and you will be big...
>
>It's a formula...
>
>And Oakie is following that formula to the dotted "i"
>
>darw_n

>
>
> > Wait a minute, Paul Oakenfold is great for what he
> > spins. He's damn good and he's had alot of success
> > doing what he does. If he wasn't good, he wouldn't
> > have the success that he's having. Now granted Trance
> > may not be your thing, and that's cool, but to say
> > he's not "great" isn't right. I'm sure that you have
> > DJs that you think are great and the Trance crowd may
> > say that they suck.
> >
> > Point is Oakie played in 2 clubs here that normally do
> > 2000 people on Saturday night. On his night they stuff
> > 5000 in the joint. Obviously he's an attraction. I
> > really don't think people would spin $40 to if the guy
> > was just "alright".
> >
> > TM
> >
> >
> > --- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > One other note, not to sound hypocritical or
> > > anything,
> > > because if you like Paul Oakenfold, more power to
> > > ya,
> > > but just because someone has 5000 people coming to
> > > see
> > > him at $40 a head doesn't mean that he is "great".
> > > People do have a tendency to go and listen to what
> > > is
> > > feed to them, if this weren't true their would be no
> > > major record labels and whole corporations dedicated
> > > to advertising certain acts and groups.
> > > Don't let 5000 sheep tell you whats good.
> > >
> >

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Subject: Re: [mw] RE:jazz docu (was:noise, yeah!)

They also said that "people used to call his music
jungle music"
I got quite a giggle out of that

signed 
Jon "gigglin like  a school girl" Gotti

--- "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Plus, just to keep this on-topic, I was lsitenig
> last night when they 
> replayed some old radio footage, during which the
> radio announcer described 
> Duke Ellington as "the king of rave music."
> Who knew?
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >Has anyone else been watching this series? Fucking
> amazing. Truly. I 
> >watched
> >the first installment with tears in my eyes. I'm
> getting the boxed set.
> >{Plus, witha  trip to New Orleans coming up for me,
> the first installment
> >gave me plenty of good ideas for historic places to
> visit.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> >> > So, is it a boxed video set, enhanced cd's or
> what?
> >> > Don't leave us in the
> >> > dark.
> >> >
> >>same boxed set as Pixie mentioned it is a box
> video
> >>set of "Jazz" the documentary!! the who 10 part
> >>series.  Ok I know I read previous posts and took
> >>except from them but have you been following? :O)
> >>
> >>Jazz the greatest docu made
> >>
> >>ALPha
> >>
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Subject: [mw] Surgeon in Chicago

OK,

A bunch of us at Purdue are trying to plan a trip to see the Surgeon in 
Chicago on the 20th, but we are getting some conflicting info on the event.  
We cant seem to figure out where he is playing and how to get tickets to 
where ever that may be.  He was supposed to be at the Metro but...

Case for Surgeon at Metro:
1: His web page says that's where he is playing.
2: A close friend of his says that's where he is playing.
3: An Indy promoter says he is ONLY playing clubs on his US tour.

Case for Surgeon NOT at Metro:
1: Boogietribe claims he is playing at a rave for them along with Dieselboy 
and Skylab at a venue that holds 10,000.
2: The Metro has no info on their web page about him playing there.
3: Ticketmaster has no info about the Surgeon Metro event even though I 
believe they sell for all Metro events.

Anyone who can clear this situation up for me can call me Al.

Adam


PS:  If anyone has the cash, please have an event where only the Surgeon and 
Richie Hawtin play all night (maybe open with an ambient/IDM dj).  Then call 
this event "Plastik Surgery."  We were going to attempt it hear at Purdue 
but we ran afoul of the University on our last big event, City Limits...
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ha, the name of that event is worth a post.

there it was.

here it comes,
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Subject: [mw] Surgeon in Chicago

please have an event where only the Surgeon and 
Richie Hawtin play all night (maybe open with an ambient/IDM dj).
Then call this event "Plastik Surgery."  

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If anyone gives a damn....


Source:
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Aussie scientists stumble across the Doomsday Bug
http://asia.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=asia/
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Thursday, January 11 3:00 AM SGT

PARIS, Jan 10 (AFP) - Australian gene engineers accidentally created a 
mouse virus that kills every one of its victims by wrecking their immune

system, a discovery with the potential for making the ultimate terrorist

weapon, New Scientist reports.

The killer bug was invented quite inadvertently, while the researchers
were 
trying to create a contraceptive vaccine for mice as a pest control, the

British weekly reports in next Saturday's issue.

They inserted into a mousepox virus a gene that creates large amounts of

interleukin 4 (IL-4), a naturally-occurring molecule that produces 
antibodies in the immune system.

The idea was to stimulate antibodies to destroy eggs in female mice,
thus 
making the rodents infertile.

Mousepox, a close relation to smallpox, normally only causes mild
symptoms 
among the type of mice being used in the study, and was only being used
as 
a vehicle to deliver the IL-4.

But when the IL-4 gene was inserted, the engineered virus ran amok, 
attacking the "cell-mediated response" -- the part of the immune system 
that fights viral infection.  All the animals in the study were wiped
out 
in just nine days.

Worse, the engineered virus was astonishingly resistant to vaccines.  A 
vaccine that would normally protect these mice from mousepox only worked
in 
half of the mice exposed to the killer version.

Co-researcher Ron Jackson, of the Canberra-based institute CSIRO, said
the 
discovery was a frightening indicator of what could happen if the human 
smallpox virus was similarly modified.

"It would be safe to assume that if some idiot did put human IL-4 into 
human smallpox, they'd increase the lethality quite dramatically," he
told 
New Scientist.

"Seeing the consequences of what happened in the mice, I wouldn't want
to 
be the one to do the experiment."

"It's surprising how very, very bad the virus is," said Anne Hill, a 
vaccine experts from Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland,
Oregon.

Smallpox has been eradicated as a disease thanks to a global vaccination

campaign, although two laboratories -- one in the United States, the
other 
in Russia -- still have ampoules containing the virus, under an
arrangement 
with the World Health Organisation (WHO).

The incident highlights how easy it could be for some with
bio-engineering 
knowledge to create a murderous virus for which there would be no cure
or 
effective vaccine, New Scientist said.

"Vast amounts of time and effort have gone into policing the military's
use 
of biotechnology.  But the activities of civilian biologists have been 
ignored," it said.

"Yet genetic engineering techniques are now so widespread that
potentially 
dangerous results are bound to emerge accidentally."

It suggests tougher vetting of research proposals; a greater effort to 
train students in biological subjects about potential dangers arising
from 
lab work; and encouraging greater openness among biologists to discuss
the 
misuse of genetic engineering.











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--- "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Plus, just to keep this on-topic, I was lsitenig
> last night when they 
> replayed some old radio footage, during which the
> radio announcer described 
> Duke Ellington as "the king of rave music."
> Who knew?

well, according to the segment i watched, "nobody else
really understood what was happening, to them, it just
sounded like noise."

the amazing multi-thread,
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> If anyone gives a damn....

stevie t would have.

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well?

-fresh jive

-q-ambient

-club home boy

-alien workshop

-airwalk

-grind

-vision street wear

-jnco

-planet earth

mad phat yo,
mk
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In a message dated 1/11/01 12:22:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
hughblaze@hotmail.com writes:

<< /me references that scene in Mall rats. >>

"..Who's your favorite New Kid?   Call me Donny...   no, call me Joey...   
yeah, don't make me get loose..."

First of all, it's a known fact that Enigma's "MCMXC A.D." is the best CD to 
fuck to.

Second, I once knew a girl who would sit in her car during her lunch breaks 
and masturbate to Lords of Acid "Pussy".

Anyone throw an all-breaks/dnb party called Lunch Breaks yet?   If not, there 
ya go.

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
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-club home boy

whatchu know about bein a BLATANT LOFTER OF JIVE?



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Subject: [mw] i need a record!! sorry if this is posting twice...

I have a close friend who wants Doormouse-Skelechairs on vinyl pretty badly. 
Now, maybe I've done a
poor job
of looking for it, but as far as I can tell, I cant get it. Apparently
they're not pressing it anymore. so, im wondering if anyone knows where i
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Stevie T, ah yes...I remember him. I take it he is no longer a subscriber.
"Immature Brats (E-mail)" Outlook wants to add the (E-mail) part, any
suggestions on getting rid of it??

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> If anyone gives a damn....

stevie t would have.

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> -fresh jive
still around

> -alien workshop
as a dayton rep i have to point out
that alien workshop has branched off a new company, habitat skateboards
nice alien workshop aesthetics ane i love it...
nice.

> -airwalk
still around, sold out

buy e's shoes thats all i wear.


> -jnco
die die	

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> I have a close friend who wants Doormouse-Skelechairs on 
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Mesmerism 

All sciences of today owe something to the pseudosciences of 
older times. As we have seen, hypnotism's debt is particularly 
large. Many history books credit Franz Anton Mesmer (1733-1815) 
as the founder of the science of hypnotism, yet we should 
properly classify Mesmer as an occultist, not a scientist, for 
he never represented the Age of Reason. He reflected older 
traditions. 

Specifically, Mesmer adopted and expanded upon the ideas first 
proposed by that impressive and irascible 16th Century 
alchemist, Paracelsus. This fascinating healer, one-quarter 
empiricist and three-quarters quack (at a time when most medical 
men approached the 100% mark for charlatanism), made many 
enemies in his day. His personality may be gauged by the fact 
that his real name -- Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohoenheim -- 
gave rise to our word "bombast." Paracelsus held that life flows 
through an invisible and intangible liquid he called "mumia." 
Alchemists generally refer to this substance as a fluid, 
although we perhaps ought to think of it as something akin to 
the aura, or Wilhelm Reich's orgone energy. Supposedly, bodily 
fluids (including blood, sweat and urine) maintain this life 
essence for a brief period. Paracelsus favored applying these 
substances to a diseased body, arguing that healthy mumia could 
attract diseased mumia, much as a magnet attracts iron. This 
practice apparently led Paracelsus to use actual magnets on his 
patients. He cured hysterical disorders in women by placing the 
positive pole of a magnet on the head and the negative pole of 
another magnet below. Again, the magic worked, in spite of the 
theory of the magician. 

During the Age of Reason, a few lonely voices continued to 
propound the notion of animal magnetism, particularly an English 
doctor named Richard Mead and the Jesuit Professor Maximilian 
Hehle, of Vienna. In 1774, Hehle used magnets to cure a woman's 
stomach cramps. After the patient recovered, Hehle happened to 
mention his success to a fellow Viennese -- the aforementioned 
Franz Anton Mesmer. 

Mesmer was hooked. He felt that Hehle's experiment confirmed his 
own ideas of an "etheric fluid" which pervades all space and 
controls human health -- a concept cribbed, obviously, from 
Paracelsus' idea of the mumia. During the next year, Mesmer used 
magnets, and eventually his hands, to manipulate this imagined 
ether. Initial successes with hypochondriacs and hysterics 
quickly established Mesmer's reputation. It became tarnished just 
as rapidly, when he attempted to use animal magnetism to cure an 
attractive young pianist of her blindness. She and a number of 
pretty female "patients" came to live with Mesmer, creating 
something of a scandal: The Viennese sensed that "magnetic" 
treatment could allow the unscrupulous to take advantage of the 
fairer sex. (This remains a concern in hypnotic practice.) 

Mesmer found it expedient to remove himself to Paris. There, he 
established a fantastically successful salon catering to the 
aristocracy. Mesmer initiated a form of "group therapy": 
Patients would enter a large tub filled with water, magnets, and 
iron filings. They formed a circle, alternating male and female, 
pressing thighs together (the healing sessions contained an 
undeniable sexual element), and used their hands to manipulate 
each other's "ether." Mesmer presided over these ceremonies in 
flowing robes of light violet, waving a long magnet-wand over 
his patients and any other object he cared to "magnetize." 

Obviously, all this was buncombe. Yet many declared themselves 
cured, or at least profoundly affected. Mesmer's treatment sent 
his charges into violent convulsions -- a complete physical 
collapse known as "the crisis." Some experienced hallucinations, 
as when certain patients reported seeing flames shooting out of 
Mesmer's magnets. These fascinating, yet disturbing, reports 
prompted King Louis XVI to commission an independent study by a 
respected team of scientists, which included that esteemed 
visitor from America, Dr. Benjamin Franklin. 

They examined Mesmer's claims, most of which did not stand up 
under close scrutiny. The commissioners observed numerous 
patients touch a "magnetized" tree to regain health; many 
mistakenly touched the wrong tree, yet experienced the crisis 
nonetheless. Franklin and his fellow experts determined that 
"imagination without magnetism produces convulsions, and that 
the magnetism without the imagination produces nothing." So much 
for Mesmer's theory of the all-encompassing etheric fluid. The 
report concluded "...that the existence of the fluid is 
absolutely destitute of proof, and that the fluid, having no 
existence, can consequently have no use." 

Mesmer was proven a fraud -- but a fraud who, disconcertingly 
enough, had obtained impressive results. For the discerning eye, 
the spectacle of magnetic healing still provided much to marvel 
at. If "imagination" alone could produce profound physical 
effects, then the human mind possessed previously unguessed-at 
capabilities. Moreover, Mesmer eventually discovered the 
somnambulistic (as opposed to the convulsive) hypnotic state. 
This is the form of hypnosis used therapeutically by later, more 
scientific practitioners. His magic had worked despite his 
theory; it was up to his followers to straighten out the theory. 

That process, alas, took the better part of the next hundred 
years. Arguably, the process continues today. 

Hypnotism 

Mesmer's pupil, the Comte de Puysegur, used what he termed 
magnetic somnabulism to cure a shepherd boy. The experiment's 
results largely accorded with those achieved by modern hypnotic 
practitioners; the subject even experienced amnesia covering the 
trance episode. De Puysegur also used hypnosis (which had not 
yet attained that label) to conduct experiments -- reportedly 
successful -- in telepathy. 

Two surgeons, Dr. John Elliotson of London and Dr. James Esdaile, 
who worked in India, performed operations using "mesmeric 
anaesthesia." The technique even allowed Esdaile to perform 
painless amputations. Yet the British medical establishment was 
incensed by Elliotson's dabblings in what they considered the 
occult; his hospital banned the use of mesmerism in medical 
practice. Perhaps no other episode better exemplifies the 
limitations of what we might label the "CSICOP" mentality: The 
arch-skeptics of Elliotson's day condemned thousands of patients 
to agonies hypnosis could have averted. Yet scientific 
skittishness was understandable: Many experimenters were 
uncredentialed, and many used Mesmer's techniques to explore 
ESP, always a dangerous topic. 

Interestingly, a number of practitioners -- such as Alexandre 
Bertrand, Dr. J.H.D. Petetin, and Dr. L. Rostan -- reported very 
positive results in this field. "Magnetized" patients seemed to 
develop telepathy and other paranormal abilities. An American 
doctor, Lyman B. Larkin, used animal magnetism to cure a servant 
girl. When entranced, the girl developed a secondary personality 
in marked contrast to her natural character. She also reportedly 
established paranormal powers, and communicated with a "fairy" 
who appeared to her during magnetized sessions. This case -- with 
its bizarre combination of hypnosis, multiple personality 
disorder, ESP experimentation and visual hallucination -- could 
almost be considered a dry run for MKULTRA. 

Scottish physician James Braid invented the term "neuro-hypnosis" 
in the mid-19th century. He proposed a purely physical 
explanation of the process. This theory, though totally 
erroneous, was carefully couched in medical terms and thus did 
much to carry hypnosis into respectability. (If we compare 
Elliotson and Braid, we might conclude that respect accrues not 
to he who produces results, but to he who masters the jargon.) 
Like his predecessors, Braid found that he could use hypnosis to 
perform relatively painless surgeries. Many of the most 
intriguing hypnotic phenomena -- catalepsy, amnesia, analgesia, 
loss of sight or hearing, release of inhibition -- now received, 
for the first time, attention from the scientific establishment. 

Braid's theories attracted Professor Jean Martin Charcot, the 
famed Parisian neurologist. He conducted experiments with 
hypnotism at the Salpetriere Hospital, eventually aided by a 
trio of soon-to-be-stellar associates: Sigmund Freud, Pierre 
Janet, and Alfred Binet. 

Alas, Charcot founded his work upon flawed assumptions. Like 
Braid, he considered hypnosis a purely mechanical process; like 
Mesmer, he felt magnets and metals could set the process into 
motion. Because he operated primarily on women suffering from 
hysteria, he concluded that hypnosis could only work on 
hysterical females. To Charcot, the hypnotic state resulted from 
a disease of the nervous system; if a patient "went under" 
easily, that patient was obviously physically ill. 

During this period -- which some call the Golden Age of hypnosis 
-- rivalry developed between the specialists at the Saltpetriere 
and a somewhat more advanced school of hypnosis at the Nancy 
Medical Society, led by Drs. Ambrose Liebeault and Hippolyte 
Bernheim. They saw hypnosis not as a symptom of physiological 
disorder, but as a psychological process, helpful in healing 
common neuroses. Bernheim and Liebeault asserted that suggestion 
alone caused hypnosis. Normal people could be hypnotized, 
although differing individuals had different levels of hypnotic 
susceptibility. 

Even though Janet and Freud first established themselves at the 
Saltpetriere, the work done at Nancy intrigued both men. Janet 
conducted the first serious work into the subject of multiple 
personality disorder. Secondary personalities, he felt, could be 
artificially induced by the hypnotist -- an important point, long 
the subject of dispute. Janet improved upon Charcot's theories 
considerably when he investigated hypnosis as a process of 
dissociation -- the separation of one segment of the mind from 
another. Neurotic patients often had repressed memories of 
traumatic events in their past; Janet discovered that once the 
patient re-awakened the memories, the symptoms of neurotic 
disorder often abated. Hypnotic age regression provided a key 
that could unlock the past. In 1889, Freud became Bernheim's 
pupil, after witnessing a demonstration which made a deep 
impression: 

"A man was placed in a condition of somnambulism, and then made 
to go through all sorts of hallucinatory experiences. On being 
wakened, he seemed at first to know nothing at all of what had 
taken place during his hypnotic sleep. Bernheim then asked him 
in so many words to tell him what had happened while he was 
under hypnosis. The man declared that he could not remember 
anything. Bernheim, however, insisted upon it, pressed him, and 
assured him that he did know and that he must remember, and lo 
and behold, the man wavered, began to reflect, and remembered in 
a shadowy fashion first one of the occurrences that had been 
suggested to him, then something else, his recollection growing 
increasingly clear..." 

Freud drew a lasting lesson from this experiment: The mind could 
know something -- yet not KNOW what it knew. The unconscious 
stored information at differing levels. Note, too, that 
Bernheim's patient eventually recalled not what actually 
occurred during the experiment, but the hallucinatory 
pseudo-memories that Dr. Bernheim had suggested. 

After making the intellectual segue between the Saltpetriere and 
Nancy, Freud eventually became frustrated with hypnosis. The 
results, he felt, were capricious and impermanent, and not 
everyone who needed help proved susceptible to trance induction. 
Freud turned to free association as "the royal road to the 
unconscious." Thus was born psychoanalysis -- the long, 
sometimes painful process which exposed the patient's resistances 
and repressions. Freud saw resistance as a signpost directing 
the analyst to the root of his patient's problems; hypnosis, by 
contrast, concealed these resistances. "The hypnotic therapy 
endeavors to cover up and as it were to whitewash something 
going on in the mind, the analytic to lay bare and remove 
something. The first works cosmetically, the second surgically." 

Into the Twentieth Century 

Freud's discoveries fascinated healers of the mind, and many 
followed his lead in abandoning hypnotherapy for analysis. For 
a while, hypnosis settled into the background of intellectual 
thought -- until military psychologists brought the technique 
back into action during World War I, along with that unsettling 
new development, electroshock. Doctors in many armies used both 
electricity and trance to treat "combat shock" and other 
dissociative disorders arising from the strain of battle. 
According to the respected historian John Toland, one such 
patient may have been a German corporal named Adolf Hitler. 

In 1918, Hitler lay in a Pasewalk military hospital, stricken 
with a psychosomatic blindness. There, Toland tells us, the 
future fuehrer was attended by Dr. Edmund Forster, an important 
hypnosis researcher from Berlin University. Hysterical blindness 
is precisely the sort of symptom that would have interested a 
clinician like Forster. He may have opened the corporal's eyes 
in more ways than one. During this stay at Pasewalk, Hitler 
experienced a "vision" -- perhaps induced hypnotically -- in 
which he heard voices entreating him to become the savior of 
Germany (or so Hitler later claimed). 

Toland obliquely suggests a truly remarkable scenario: Adolf 
Hitler as the first Manchurian Candidate. An unsettling notion, 
to be sure. Perhaps we should be grateful to Hitler 
"psychohistorian" Robert G.L. Waite, who has argued persuasively 
that Forster never treated Hitler. 

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THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA 

By Martin Cannon 

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The concept of mind control strikes most people as either 
futuristic or fabulous. In fact, human beings have employed 
effective thought-processing techniques ever since the first 
oligarches sought to exploit their underlings, ever since the 
first mystics sought communion with their deities, ever since 
man first sought to understand his inner self. Mind control, 
broadly defined, has been with us in one form or another since 
the beginning of civilization. 

The Mushroom Warriors 

Arguably, the Russians really were the first brainwashers, just 
as the propagandists of the 1950s alleged. 

4500 years ago, the Koyak and Wiros tribes of the central Russian 
steppes conducted what may be the first experiments in 
stimulating violence through the use of drugs. They derived from 
the Amanita muscaria mushroom a drug which reduced the warrior's 
anxiety and fear while increasing his strength, stamina, mental 
acuity, and ability to withstand pain. The shamans hit upon a 
noteworthy method of increasing the drug's potency: The mushroom 
was first fed to reindeer, and the soldiers would drink the 
animals' urine on the eve of battle. Viking warriors also 
depended on chemical stimulants derived from deer urine. 
(Today's soldiers should ponder this history before complaining 
about their MREs.) Combatants in India relied on similar drugs, 
as did Native American tribes of the Southwest. Incan warriors 
made use of the coca leaf. The tradition continues today: In 
Vietnam, soldiers sought relief in a veritable 
pharma-cornucopia, which offered everything from marijuana to 
heroin. The warring tribes of Somalia, Rwanda and Liberia all 
routinely partake of the locally-preferred narcotics. 

In all ancient cultures, the shaman prepared for healing work by 
retreating to a cave, or some other quiet, intensely dark 
environment -- a sensory deprivation chamber, if you will. Magic 
could occur only after prolonged sessions of drumming and 
chanting: rhythmic sound stimulation. The shaman would visualize 
descent into a lower world, just as a modern hypnotherapist 
might use "falling" imagery during trance induction. As William 
Sargant, a British psychiatrist, said of these ancient rituals: 

"Some persons can produce a state of trance and dissociation in 
themselves, or in others, with a decreasing need for strong and 
repeated emotional stresses, until it may become so much a 
conditioned pattern of brain activity that it occurs with only 
minor stresses and difficulties; for example, in the primitive 
religious context, at the renewed beat of a drum, or the 
screaming roar of the rhombos... If the trance is accompanied by 
a state of mental dissociation, the person experiencing it can 
be profoundly influenced in his subsequent thinking and 
behavior." 

Students of occult history maintain that the heirophants of the 
ancient Egyptian mystery schools practiced a strikingly-advanced 
form of hypnosis, in which initiates entered profound trances, 
triggering what we would today call an out-of-body-experience. 
Even modern-day, scientifically-oriented hypnotists recognize 
their debt to the Aesculapian priests of ancient Greece, who 
practiced a hypnosis-based form of medicine and behavior 
modification they called "dream healing." The oracles of ancient 
Greece, through the breathing of certain vapors and the imbibing 
of certain liquids, dwelt within an altered state, as did, to 
varying degrees, those who participated in the mysteries. 
Sargant does not hesitate to use the term "brainwashing" to 
describe the rites of the Oracle of Triphonius. During these 
mysteries, the initiate experienced sensory deprivation, sudden 
confusion techniques, selected auditory and visual stimuli, 
drugs -- and possibly even the proverbial whack on the skull. 
Unsurprisingly, vivid hallucinations often resulted. Western 
civilization, we are told, was founded on the Greek model -- but 
to what degree was Greek civilization itself founded on mind 
control? Mystery cults expanded throughout the ancient world, 
always centering (as Dr. Pierre Janet once noted) in the same 
types of pastoral locales favored by modern centers of Marian 
devotion. At Eleusis, as at Lourdes, the pilgrim entered 
craftily-designed alternate world, set amid grottoes, streams, 
caves and candlelight rites: 

"Initiation ceremonies of secret cults of the mystery-type 
invariably involve tests, sometimes most severe ones. The effect 
of certain experiences was a carefully worked program of mind 
training which is familiar in modern times as that employed by 
certain totalitarian states to 'condition' or reshape the 
thinking of the individual. This process produces a state in 
which the mind is pliant enough to have certain ideas implanted: 
ideas which resist a great deal of counter-influence." 

The Truth About "Magic" 

During the Middle Ages and Renaissance, alchemists filled many an 
obscure text with descriptions of techniques intended to focus 
the will and alter awareness. These auto-induced trance states 
probably account for many of the visionary experiences reported 
in occult lore. In a sense, magic works -- in spite of, not 
because of, the theory of the magician. 

Example: Ritualists once set great store by a device called "The 
Triangle of the Art." This was, essentially, a round glass 
(roughly a foot in diameter) painted black on the reverse and 
set into a triangular wooden frame, which was painted white and 
bedecked with esoteric symbols. The magician was to sit in a 
darkened room facing this glass, flanked on either side by lit 
candles placed just outside his direct vision. By studying the 
dark mirror, concentrating on the reflected light dancing on his 
face, the magician would slip into the spirit realms and commune 
with forces beyond. Undoubtedly, the device did its job, though 
the triangular frame and eldritch calligraphy contributed little 
aside from decoration. As the American military would 
re-discover in the 20th Century, flickering light can profoundly 
affect perception and awareness. 

The literature of occultism, stripped of its supernatural 
pretenses, records the long pre-history of Mesmerism. The demons 
called forth by Prelati and Gilles de Rais, the Colosseum of 
horrors witnessed by Buenvenuto Cellini, the spirits evoked by 
Edward Kelly and John Dee, the devils who possessed the sisters 
at Loudon: Mind manipulation may not explain all of these 
phenomena, but it explains much. The MKULTRA scientists merely 
mapped lands the alchemists had long ago discovered. As Richard 
Cavendish points out in his history of The Black Arts: 

"There is not much doubt that the procedures of ritual magic are 
likely to cause hallucinations. The magician prepares himself by 
abstinence and lack of sleep, or by drink, drugs and sex. He 
breathes in fumes which may affect his brain and senses. He 
performs mysterious rites which tug at the deepest, most 
emotional and unreasoning levels of his mind, and he is further 
intoxicated by the killing of an animal, the wounding of a human 
being and in some cases the approach to and the achievement of 
orgasm. Through all this he concentrates on a mental image of 
the being he hopes to see. It does not seem at all unlikely that 
at the high point of the ceremony he may actually see it." 

Religion 

Similar practices had similar results within the confines of 
mainstream faith. Teresa of Avila, the 16th century mystic, may 
be famous for her charming homily "God is to be found in the 
pots and pans" -- yet she did not receive her visions 
spontaneously, while going about her daily labors like other 
women. To the contrary: In order to experience the divine, she 
required of herself (and of her charges) penances, solitude, 
strict discipline, chants, and ongoing mental prayer. This 
continual hypnotic auto-induction resulted in the state of 
ecstasy -- the state of trance -- depicted in Bernini's famous 
statue. Her fellow Carmelites, having undergone the same 
preparation, would experience the same visions, interviewing 
celestial visitors alongside Teresa. 

History's other great mystics -- inspired seers, such as St. John 
of the Cross, Plotinus, and Meister Eckhart -- usually followed 
similar recipes for ecstasy. 

According to William Sargant, the methodologies of religious 
conversion "often approximate so closely to modern political 
techniques of brain-washing and thought control that each throws 
light on the mechanics of the other." Sargant pays particular 
attention to the great English revivalist of the mid-18th 
century, John Wesley. His technique ("used," according to 
Sargant, "not only in many other successful religions but in 
modern political warfare") involved an all-out assault on the 
emotions, primarily the emotion of fear. The preacher would hit 
this note at the loudest possible volume for the longest 
possible time, until many in the audience succumbed to 
hysterical collapse. This approach differs hardly at all from 
the ultra-emotional "conditioning" sessions conducted by such 
modern-day evangelists as Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker. 

Interestingly, Wesley even recommended a form of 
electro-convulsive therapy involving Leyden jars. He considered 
the intentional electrification of human beings both harmless 
and beneficial, "a thousand medicines in one." John Wesley may 
thus be the first "programmer" to take a serious interest in the 
use of electricity to affect mind and body. All religious systems 
have incorporated practices designed to modify consciousness: 
the chanting of mantras, focusing of concentration, guided 
imagery, breathing exercises, group ritual, intense prayer, etc. 
Mind control, defined broadly, has affected history to the 
extent that religion has affected history. The wars of faith 
have rarely been more than the clashes of psychic autocracies. 

The Assassins 

Perhaps the most innovative thinker in the history of 
psychological manipulation was the legendary Persian warlord 
Hasan I Sabbah, otherwise known as "The Old Man of the 
Mountains." Reportedly a boyhood friend of the poet Omar Khyam, 
Hasan was the son of a governor. He was educated in the ways of 
the Ismailis, a semi-gnostic sect based in Cairo, which used 
subtle psychological techniques to instill initiates with a 
fanatic loyalty to the Egyptian caliph. 

When the ambitious and ruthless Hasan was exiled from Persia in 
1078, he vowed revenge -- and soon achieved it, by perfecting 
Ismaili mind-control methods. In the words of Marco Polo, Hasan 
"caused draughts of a soporific nature to be administered to ten 
or a dozen youths." He would then transport the drugged youths 
to a beautiful, but inescapable, valley adjacent to his hillside 
fortress near Kasvin. Every detail of this Persian garden 
corresponded with the descriptions of paradise found in the Koran 
-- including a connoisseur's collection of harem girls. "Upon 
awakening from this state of lethargy their senses were struck 
by all the delightful objects, and each perceiving himself 
surrounded by lovely damsels, singing, playing, and attracting 
his regards by the most fascinating caresses..." The recruits 
believed that they had literally died and gone to heaven. After 
a few weeks of beatific bliss, the young fighting men were (much 
to their disappointment) expelled from paradise and returned to 
the outside world. Hasan would them send them on missions of 
what we would now call "unconventional warfare." The promised 
reward for both success and martyrdom was a revisit to the 
garden of delights. Thus, Hasan managed to overcome the most 
serious obstacle to effective soldiering: the innate human will 
for self-preservation. The troops welcomed death, and maintained 
their ecstatic vision of the afterlife through the liberal use of 
hashish -- hence the term hashishim, from which we derive the 
word "assassin." 

Another "recruiting" technique was more direct: Hasan would 
purchase children from the poor, and raise them from infancy to 
become absolutely obedient warriors. So great was Hasan's 
control that he once impressed a visiting dignitary by ordering 
one of his men to leap off a cliff, an order fulfilled without a 
second's hesitation. 

The hashishim advanced Hasan's interests, established a network 
of strongholds, and either murdered or intimidated all rival 
rulers. By 1094 these elite troops, wearing the white tunics and 
red sashes characteristic of their sect, had made Hasan the most 
powerful warlord in the area now called the Middle East. 
Reportedly, King Richard the Lion-hearted once contracted Hasan 
to have a mind-controlled assassin perform a "hit" against a 
rival crusader. 

Such, at least, is the story. Alas, figures like The Old Man of 
the Mountains invite much myth, and never leave the sort of 
paper trail modern-day researchers would prefer. We know, 
however, that as the centuries progressed, the hashishim evolved 
into an extremely widespread cult, which had made its presence 
known in Russia, China, and even India -- where the ways of the 
assassins may have inspired the notorious Thugees. Hasan's sect 
survives to this day throughout the Middle East. In Gujurat 
state, India, and in Pakistan, they are now known as the Khojas, 
and owe their allegiance to the Aga Khan, leader of the 
modern-day Ismailis. 





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<BR><BR>THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA <BR><BR>By Martin Cannon <BR><BR>January 1997 
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<BR><BR>The concept of mind control strikes most people as either <BR>futuristic 
or fabulous. In fact, human beings have employed <BR>effective 
thought-processing techniques ever since the first <BR>oligarches sought to 
exploit their underlings, ever since the <BR>first mystics sought communion with 
their deities, ever since <BR>man first sought to understand his inner self. 
Mind control, <BR>broadly defined, has been with us in one form or another since 
<BR>the beginning of civilization. <BR><BR>The Mushroom Warriors 
<BR><BR>Arguably, the Russians really were the first brainwashers, just <BR>as 
the propagandists of the 1950s alleged. <BR><BR>4500 years ago, the Koyak and 
Wiros tribes of the central Russian <BR>steppes conducted what may be the first 
experiments in <BR>stimulating violence through the use of drugs. They derived 
from <BR>the Amanita muscaria mushroom a drug which reduced the warrior's 
<BR>anxiety and fear while increasing his strength, stamina, mental <BR>acuity, 
and ability to withstand pain. The shamans hit upon a <BR>noteworthy method of 
increasing the drug's potency: The mushroom <BR>was first fed to reindeer, and 
the soldiers would drink the <BR>animals' urine on the eve of battle. Viking 
warriors also <BR>depended on chemical stimulants derived from deer urine. 
<BR>(Today's soldiers should ponder this history before complaining <BR>about 
their MREs.) Combatants in India relied on similar drugs, <BR>as did Native 
American tribes of the Southwest. Incan warriors <BR>made use of the coca leaf. 
The tradition continues today: In <BR>Vietnam, soldiers sought relief in a 
veritable <BR>pharma-cornucopia, which offered everything from marijuana to 
<BR>heroin. The warring tribes of Somalia, Rwanda and Liberia all <BR>routinely 
partake of the locally-preferred narcotics. <BR><BR>In all ancient cultures, the 
shaman prepared for healing work by <BR>retreating to a cave, or some other 
quiet, intensely dark <BR>environment -- a sensory deprivation chamber, if you 
will. Magic <BR>could occur only after prolonged sessions of drumming and 
<BR>chanting: rhythmic sound stimulation. The shaman would visualize <BR>descent 
into a lower world, just as a modern hypnotherapist <BR>might use "falling" 
imagery during trance induction. As William <BR>Sargant, a British psychiatrist, 
said of these ancient rituals: <BR><BR>"Some persons can produce a state of 
trance and dissociation in <BR>themselves, or in others, with a decreasing need 
for strong and <BR>repeated emotional stresses, until it may become so much a 
<BR>conditioned pattern of brain activity that it occurs with only <BR>minor 
stresses and difficulties; for example, in the primitive <BR>religious context, 
at the renewed beat of a drum, or the <BR>screaming roar of the rhombos... If 
the trance is accompanied by <BR>a state of mental dissociation, the person 
experiencing it can <BR>be profoundly influenced in his subsequent thinking and 
<BR>behavior." <BR><BR>Students of occult history maintain that the heirophants 
of the <BR>ancient Egyptian mystery schools practiced a strikingly-advanced 
<BR>form of hypnosis, in which initiates entered profound trances, 
<BR>triggering what we would today call an out-of-body-experience. <BR>Even 
modern-day, scientifically-oriented hypnotists recognize <BR>their debt to the 
Aesculapian priests of ancient Greece, who <BR>practiced a hypnosis-based form 
of medicine and behavior <BR>modification they called "dream healing." The 
oracles of ancient <BR>Greece, through the breathing of certain vapors and the 
imbibing <BR>of certain liquids, dwelt within an altered state, as did, to 
<BR>varying degrees, those who participated in the mysteries. <BR>Sargant does 
not hesitate to use the term "brainwashing" to <BR>describe the rites of the 
Oracle of Triphonius. During these <BR>mysteries, the initiate experienced 
sensory deprivation, sudden <BR>confusion techniques, selected auditory and 
visual stimuli, <BR>drugs -- and possibly even the proverbial whack on the 
skull. <BR>Unsurprisingly, vivid hallucinations often resulted. Western 
<BR>civilization, we are told, was founded on the Greek model -- but <BR>to what 
degree was Greek civilization itself founded on mind <BR>control? Mystery cults 
expanded throughout the ancient world, <BR>always centering (as Dr. Pierre Janet 
once noted) in the same <BR>types of pastoral locales favored by modern centers 
of Marian <BR>devotion. At Eleusis, as at Lourdes, the pilgrim entered 
<BR>craftily-designed alternate world, set amid grottoes, streams, <BR>caves and 
candlelight rites: <BR><BR>"Initiation ceremonies of secret cults of the 
mystery-type <BR>invariably involve tests, sometimes most severe ones. The 
effect <BR>of certain experiences was a carefully worked program of mind 
<BR>training which is familiar in modern times as that employed by <BR>certain 
totalitarian states to 'condition' or reshape the <BR>thinking of the 
individual. This process produces a state in <BR>which the mind is pliant enough 
to have certain ideas implanted: <BR>ideas which resist a great deal of 
counter-influence." <BR><BR>The Truth About "Magic" <BR><BR>During the Middle 
Ages and Renaissance, alchemists filled many an <BR>obscure text with 
descriptions of techniques intended to focus <BR>the will and alter awareness. 
These auto-induced trance states <BR>probably account for many of the visionary 
experiences reported <BR>in occult lore. In a sense, magic works -- in spite of, 
not <BR>because of, the theory of the magician. <BR><BR>Example: Ritualists once 
set great store by a device called "The <BR>Triangle of the Art." This was, 
essentially, a round glass <BR>(roughly a foot in diameter) painted black on the 
reverse and <BR>set into a triangular wooden frame, which was painted white and 
<BR>bedecked with esoteric symbols. The magician was to sit in a <BR>darkened 
room facing this glass, flanked on either side by lit <BR>candles placed just 
outside his direct vision. By studying the <BR>dark mirror, concentrating on the 
reflected light dancing on his <BR>face, the magician would slip into the spirit 
realms and commune <BR>with forces beyond. Undoubtedly, the device did its job, 
though <BR>the triangular frame and eldritch calligraphy contributed little 
<BR>aside from decoration. As the American military would <BR>re-discover in the 
20th Century, flickering light can profoundly <BR>affect perception and 
awareness. <BR><BR>The literature of occultism, stripped of its supernatural 
<BR>pretenses, records the long pre-history of Mesmerism. The demons <BR>called 
forth by Prelati and Gilles de Rais, the Colosseum of <BR>horrors witnessed by 
Buenvenuto Cellini, the spirits evoked by <BR>Edward Kelly and John Dee, the 
devils who possessed the sisters <BR>at Loudon: Mind manipulation may not 
explain all of these <BR>phenomena, but it explains much. The MKULTRA scientists 
merely <BR>mapped lands the alchemists had long ago discovered. As Richard 
<BR>Cavendish points out in his history of The Black Arts: <BR><BR>"There is not 
much doubt that the procedures of ritual magic are <BR>likely to cause 
hallucinations. The magician prepares himself by <BR>abstinence and lack of 
sleep, or by drink, drugs and sex. He <BR>breathes in fumes which may affect his 
brain and senses. He <BR>performs mysterious rites which tug at the deepest, 
most <BR>emotional and unreasoning levels of his mind, and he is further 
<BR>intoxicated by the killing of an animal, the wounding of a human <BR>being 
and in some cases the approach to and the achievement of <BR>orgasm. Through all 
this he concentrates on a mental image of <BR>the being he hopes to see. It does 
not seem at all unlikely that <BR>at the high point of the ceremony he may 
actually see it." <BR><BR>Religion <BR><BR>Similar practices had similar results 
within the confines of <BR>mainstream faith. Teresa of Avila, the 16th century 
mystic, may <BR>be famous for her charming homily "God is to be found in the 
<BR>pots and pans" -- yet she did not receive her visions <BR>spontaneously, 
while going about her daily labors like other <BR>women. To the contrary: In 
order to experience the divine, she <BR>required of herself (and of her charges) 
penances, solitude, <BR>strict discipline, chants, and ongoing mental prayer. 
This <BR>continual hypnotic auto-induction resulted in the state of <BR>ecstasy 
-- the state of trance -- depicted in Bernini's famous <BR>statue. Her fellow 
Carmelites, having undergone the same <BR>preparation, would experience the same 
visions, interviewing <BR>celestial visitors alongside Teresa. <BR><BR>History's 
other great mystics -- inspired seers, such as St. John <BR>of the Cross, 
Plotinus, and Meister Eckhart -- usually followed <BR>similar recipes for 
ecstasy. <BR><BR>According to William Sargant, the methodologies of religious 
<BR>conversion "often approximate so closely to modern political <BR>techniques 
of brain-washing and thought control that each throws <BR>light on the mechanics 
of the other." Sargant pays particular <BR>attention to the great English 
revivalist of the mid-18th <BR>century, John Wesley. His technique ("used," 
according to <BR>Sargant, "not only in many other successful religions but in 
<BR>modern political warfare") involved an all-out assault on the <BR>emotions, 
primarily the emotion of fear. The preacher would hit <BR>this note at the 
loudest possible volume for the longest <BR>possible time, until many in the 
audience succumbed to <BR>hysterical collapse. This approach differs hardly at 
all from <BR>the ultra-emotional "conditioning" sessions conducted by such 
<BR>modern-day evangelists as Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker. 
<BR><BR>Interestingly, Wesley even recommended a form of <BR>electro-convulsive 
therapy involving Leyden jars. He considered <BR>the intentional electrification 
of human beings both harmless <BR>and beneficial, "a thousand medicines in one." 
John Wesley may <BR>thus be the first "programmer" to take a serious interest in 
the <BR>use of electricity to affect mind and body. All religious systems 
<BR>have incorporated practices designed to modify consciousness: <BR>the 
chanting of mantras, focusing of concentration, guided <BR>imagery, breathing 
exercises, group ritual, intense prayer, etc. <BR>Mind control, defined broadly, 
has affected history to the <BR>extent that religion has affected history. The 
wars of faith <BR>have rarely been more than the clashes of psychic autocracies. 
<BR><BR>The Assassins <BR><BR>Perhaps the most innovative thinker in the history 
of <BR>psychological manipulation was the legendary Persian warlord <BR>Hasan I 
Sabbah, otherwise known as "The Old Man of the <BR>Mountains." Reportedly a 
boyhood friend of the poet Omar Khyam, <BR>Hasan was the son of a governor. He 
was educated in the ways of <BR>the Ismailis, a semi-gnostic sect based in 
Cairo, which used <BR>subtle psychological techniques to instill initiates with 
a <BR>fanatic loyalty to the Egyptian caliph. <BR><BR>When the ambitious and 
ruthless Hasan was exiled from Persia in <BR>1078, he vowed revenge -- and soon 
achieved it, by perfecting <BR>Ismaili mind-control methods. In the words of 
Marco Polo, Hasan <BR>"caused draughts of a soporific nature to be administered 
to ten <BR>or a dozen youths." He would then transport the drugged youths <BR>to 
a beautiful, but inescapable, valley adjacent to his hillside <BR>fortress near 
Kasvin. Every detail of this Persian garden <BR>corresponded with the 
descriptions of paradise found in the Koran <BR>-- including a connoisseur's 
collection of harem girls. "Upon <BR>awakening from this state of lethargy their 
senses were struck <BR>by all the delightful objects, and each perceiving 
himself <BR>surrounded by lovely damsels, singing, playing, and attracting 
<BR>his regards by the most fascinating caresses..." The recruits <BR>believed 
that they had literally died and gone to heaven. After <BR>a few weeks of 
beatific bliss, the young fighting men were (much <BR>to their disappointment) 
expelled from paradise and returned to <BR>the outside world. Hasan would them 
send them on missions of <BR>what we would now call "unconventional warfare." 
The promised <BR>reward for both success and martyrdom was a revisit to the 
<BR>garden of delights. Thus, Hasan managed to overcome the most <BR>serious 
obstacle to effective soldiering: the innate human will <BR>for 
self-preservation. The troops welcomed death, and maintained <BR>their ecstatic 
vision of the afterlife through the liberal use of <BR>hashish -- hence the term 
hashishim, from which we derive the <BR>word "assassin." <BR><BR>Another 
"recruiting" technique was more direct: Hasan would <BR>purchase children from 
the poor, and raise them from infancy to <BR>become absolutely obedient 
warriors. So great was Hasan's <BR>control that he once impressed a visiting 
dignitary by ordering <BR>one of his men to leap off a cliff, an order fulfilled 
without a <BR>second's hesitation. <BR><BR>The hashishim advanced Hasan's 
interests, established a network <BR>of strongholds, and either murdered or 
intimidated all rival <BR>rulers. By 1094 these elite troops, wearing the white 
tunics and <BR>red sashes characteristic of their sect, had made Hasan the most 
<BR>powerful warlord in the area now called the Middle East. <BR>Reportedly, 
King Richard the Lion-hearted once contracted Hasan <BR>to have a 
mind-controlled assassin perform a "hit" against a <BR>rival crusader. 
<BR><BR>Such, at least, is the story. Alas, figures like The Old Man of <BR>the 
Mountains invite much myth, and never leave the sort of <BR>paper trail 
modern-day researchers would prefer. We know, <BR>however, that as the centuries 
progressed, the hashishim evolved <BR>into an extremely widespread cult, which 
had made its presence <BR>known in Russia, China, and even India -- where the 
ways of the <BR>assassins may have inspired the notorious Thugees. Hasan's sect 
<BR>survives to this day throughout the Middle East. In Gujurat <BR>state, 
India, and in Pakistan, they are now known as the Khojas, <BR>and owe their 
allegiance to the Aga Khan, leader of the <BR>modern-day Ismailis. 
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Subject: RE: [mw] RE:music to screw to (was: Hardcore)

now your getting it...when doormouse samples the new kids..oh my god ...i get 
wet just thinking about it. 
now i have to take a shower






>===== Original Message From "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> =====
>Personally, i prefer some Autechre when i'm getting my freek on. Or certain
>cuts from "sheet one." Or Biggie Smalls feat. R Kelly "fucking you tonight"
>that one's prolly my favorite, actaully. Unless I'm feeling really saucy,
>and then I put on the New Kids.
>/me references that scene in Mall rats.
>Happy fucking!
>
>
>
>>
>>At 09:52 PM 1/10/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
>> >When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for
>>all...
>> >it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything
>>to
>> >do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck
>>too.
>>
>>bull shit. you have never been properly fucked then *period* (implying
>>ultimate truth here).
>>Get over your naive thinking that *fast/hard* bumping is the end all be all
>>to sex, get a lil more complicated than that... how old are you? 8?
>>puhlease.  "hardcore IS..." wow what sophistication, shit PUT THE CRACK
>>PIPE DOWN.
>>
>>
>>that is all.
>>
>>
>>tad
>>
>>
>> >
>> >by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter
>>is a
>> >dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!
>> >
>> >whendee
>> >
>> >Whendee Messick
>> >
>> >still looking for pics
>> >
>> >>===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
>> >>You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
>> >>think it's noise.
>> >>
>> >>TM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
>> >>> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
>> >>> ok
>> >>> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
>> >>>
>> >>> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
>> >>> opinion is irrelevant.
>> >>>
>> >>> mk
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>Outlook wants to add the (E-mail) part, any
>suggestions on getting rid of it??

settings --> control panels --> add/remove programs

scroll down to Microsoft Outlook and click "Remove".

mk
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>-fresh jive

Gone, forgotten

>-q-ambient

Gone, remembered

>-club home boy

gone, thaakfully

>-alien workshop

Semi-gone (still in my closet), remembered fondly

>-airwalk

not gone, not forgotten

>-grind
>
>-vision street wear

gone, forgotten

>-jnco

good riddance

>-planet earth

?????

>mad phat yo,
>mk


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>First of all, it's a known fact that Enigma's "MCMXC A.D." is the best CD to
>fuck to.

i had always been under the impression that "led zeppelin III" was the 
global consensus on this.

make the music with your mouth biz,
mk


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hes not playing them etro
hes playing the boogie tribe party
originally it was going to be metro but that got changed a while back. guess 
he hasnt updates his web page.

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haha...that's funny. I hate Outlook. I would use another email client if my
company would allow it.

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>Outlook wants to add the (E-mail) part, any
>suggestions on getting rid of it??

settings --> control panels --> add/remove programs

scroll down to Microsoft Outlook and click "Remove".

mk
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> In memory of Stevie T....gone but not forgotten.
go away

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id like to take this moment to give both the ronald mcdonald house and make
a wish foundation charities
my personal big ups yoh

those are some neat ideas

thankyou

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Of course you are.

>
>I'm wearing Vans and an Alien Workshop shirt right now.
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>haha...that's funny. I hate Outlook. I would use another email client if my
>company would allow it.

actually it's an excellent PIM.  but IMHO it blows for e-mail.  eudora is 
my preferred e-mail client.

be thankful they don't make you use cc:mail, which was in use at my place 
of employment as late as august of this year!

mk
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    And we're going to trust some random person from aol on this because?

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> hes not playing them etro
> hes playing the boogie tribe party
> originally it was going to be metro but that got changed a while back.
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> he hasnt updates his web page.



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> On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:23:21PM -0500, Griggles wrote:
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Yes, I say we create a burger thread.  BBC is the best burger on the
market matey.  Whopper's second. 'cept for the fact that U gain 5 lbs.
just by eating one... wheeeeeeeeee



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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> -alien workshop

still have a shirt and wear it.

> -grind

still my favorite hat of all time

> -jnco

it's at JC Penny's in the mall. too popular now, though I still have a
pair of them laying around in a closet somewhere

I never was a fashion whore though.

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> Yes, I say we create a burger thread.  BBC is the best burger on the
> market matey.  Whopper's second. 'cept for the fact that U gain 5 lbs.
> just by eating one... wheeeeeeeeee
uhmmm

i like new-age meat products like
boca burgers morningstar farm anythings...garden burgers...

ooooh yeah amy's kitchen has some phattie foods

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Subject: Re: [mw] surgeon


Because its apparently true.  Latest word is that he is NOT playing at the 
Metro after all and IS playing for BoogieTribe at some different venue.  But 
I am not the primary source for that info, just passing it through from more 
enlightened sources.

Adam


>From: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
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>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:25:27 -0600
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>
>     And we're going to trust some random person from aol on this because?
>
>Matt Murphy
>sound.light.motion
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>
> > hes not playing them etro
> > hes playing the boogie tribe party
> > originally it was going to be metro but that got changed a while back.
>guess
> > he hasnt updates his web page.
>
>
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in the future, please refrain from posting extremely long things to the
list.

especially if they're available online already, like this one was.  this
isn't usenet alt.conspiracy, and the majority of us on here don't care for
paranoid rants.  those of us who do will gladly follow a link if posted,
and those of us who don't (especially those of us on the digest) would
really appreciate not having our inboxes flooded.

do you realize your post (so large it had to be split into 2 parts) was as
large as all the rest of the list traffic on a given day?


On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> In memory of Stevie T....gone but not forgotten.


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uninstall it!

ahahahha, see, he wanted to get rid of the (E-mail) part of the mail alias
he's using, but i thought...

nevermind,
-t

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Stevie T, ah yes...I remember him. I take it he is no longer a subscriber.
"Immature Brats (E-mail)" Outlook wants to add the (E-mail) part, any
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my mail is lagged and it makes it look like i'm not paying attention.

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uninstall it!

ahahahha, see, he wanted to get rid of the (E-mail) part of the mail alias
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> Anyone throw an all-breaks/dnb party called Lunch
> Breaks yet?   

no, they're too busy throwing parties with overused
names recycled from the past 12 years or so, such as
"Rebirth" "Positive" "Milky Rave" "UltraSonic" "Sonic
Beats" or any variation of the word Sonic, "Rave New
World" "Glow" "Revolution" and anything that can use
some sort of drug reference or change an F to a PH.

that's a severely abridged list, btw.
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Damnit, NPR kix my ass.  Let's hear it for NPR.  I wish I could speak as
well as half of the people on there.  I'm so bad @ articulating
myself...  Everybody would definitely benefit from some good ol' NPR
listening sessions.

yup yup

"Topping, Micah" wrote:
> 
> > if anyone is just beside themselves trying to figure
> > out what to buy me for my birthday this year (4.24)
> > the box set of the series "Jazz" presented on PBS this
> > week would be just the thing. Someone else could then
> > get me the companion book.
> isnt that like 167 dollars or something?
> i may chip in with some coworkers to buy it
> 
> but if you want something REALLY cool buy this:
> 
> checkit
> 
> http://www.npr.org/programs/lnfsound/
> 
> heard it on npr driving from wisconsin to chicago post-new years
> its awesome i bought it
> 
> you should too
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Yeah, should'a mentioned this in the other mail, but I haven't heard a
mention of Leadbelly.  Has anyone that's actually been watching it heard
about him on that series??



pixie wrote:
> 
> > Fucking dito for me!!!!!
> > I just finally got to see a portion of it last
> > night,
> > and all I have to say is phenominal!
> 
> i watched a couple of nights ago and got to see the
> short segment on the Austin High Gang. Most of the
> entire segment was about Louis Armstrong and his
> influences from King Oliver, to his eventual move to
> New York. I've missed the rest of the series, unless
> it's also on tonight and tomorrow, and i've *got* to
> have that set!
> 
> *calm*
> pixie
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no matter how good of an idea they sound, i have never eaten a garden
burger/boca burger thingie that i liked.

hmmm,
-t


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i like new-age meat products like
boca burgers morningstar farm anythings...garden burgers...


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> > -grind
> 
> still my favorite hat of all time

still have a pair in my closet. 40 inch waist, 40 oz
pockets.

new deals

still have a pair in my closet. still wear them.
original inside-outs.

independent.

whore. it irks me to see kids who were 4 years old
when i bought my first independent sweatshirt rockin
one at the mall. granted, i'll be the first to admit i
never got past the "no center of balance, falling on
my ass all the time" level of skating, but at least i
braved the greasy intimidating guys at the local skate
shop to get one. pacific sunwear just takes all the
character out of it.

"hey baby, you lost?"
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> > -grind
> 
> still my favorite hat of all time

still have a pair in my closet. 40 inch waist, 40 oz
pockets.

new deals

still have a pair in my closet. still wear them.
original inside-outs.

independent.

whore. it irks me to see kids who were 4 years old
when i bought my first independent sweatshirt rockin
one at the mall. granted, i'll be the first to admit i
never got past the "no center of balance, falling on
my ass all the time" level of skating, but at least i
braved the greasy intimidating guys at the local skate
shop to get one. pacific sunwear just takes all the
character out of it.

"hey baby, you lost?"
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> ooooh yeah amy's kitchen has some phattie foods

food? last time you were in my kitchen all it had was
$300 worth of alcomahol and some runny homemade salsa.

er, wait...you meant...
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> no matter how good of an idea they sound, i have never eaten a garden
> burger/boca burger thingie that i liked.
well it looks like i explicitly stated it but i didnt mean to, but i dont
like them all either
but i do like most of them
some more than others, depends on my mood
but morningstar's fake chicken things own me, ESPECIALLY their buffalo wings

yummy tummy micah

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> that's a severely abridged list, btw.
well i hope so it doesn't even mention my favorite fake-party name
SYNERGY!

i have told quite a few party people either that this party was PHat or that
it was gonna be PHat
or make up rave stories and the party name is ALWAYS SYNERGY!

cos SYNERGY is so SYNERGISTIC!

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

+only i have the audacity to do that.
+
+"we" say, "you" suck
+

when in doubt, assume i think micah should shut up.

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>it's at JC Penny's in the mall. too popular now, though I still have a
>pair of them laying around in a closet somewhere


since when did penny's = popular?!

yikes.

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What about Mr. Marvin Gaye.  I say we all "get it on".  Oh yeah, Chris
Farley said that too... um... er.. *cough*...

wheee that was phun...

Noble Long wrote:
> 
> At 09:52 PM 1/10/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
> >When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for
> all...
> >it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything
> to
> >do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck too.
> 
> whatever happened to Barry White? Works for me everytime.
> 
> Noble
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> > ooooh yeah amy's kitchen has some phattie foods
> 
> food? last time you were in my kitchen all it had was
> $300 worth of alcomahol and some runny homemade salsa.
> 
> er, wait...you meant...
thats right i meant "amy's kitchen"
its some brand of food and they have like "real" food like
enchilladas and stuff
hadn't had much of it but the some i have is yummy

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It's tough being right all of the time, isn't it??

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At 03:34 PM 1/11/2001 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
>do you realize your post (so large it had to be split into 2 parts) was as
>large as all the rest of the list traffic on a given day?

whoa, even on a day like wednesday, january 10, 2001?

i'm gessing noble "not here for" long doesn't really care.  whatta dick!

the "e" is for "enforcer",
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> since when did penny's = popular?!
whew!
what a relief!
i recently purchased a sweater at jc penny and i am glad that that was not
the "popular" place to buy stuff
its a nice sweater, i like it

wanna see?

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>Let's hear it for NPR.

...

mk, listening to commercial radio
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> >do you realize your post (so large it had to be split into 2 
> parts) was as
> >large as all the rest of the list traffic on a given day?
> 
> whoa, even on a day like wednesday, january 10, 2001?
wow we'll have to generate more traffic then michael!

> i'm gessing noble "not here for" long doesn't really care.  
> whatta dick!
werd.
werd again.

> the "e" is for "enforcer",

quick:
1980s show that had robert eurich as the star, it was like the enforcer and
stuff...
amazing shoe

what was it called?
i can never remember

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As a non-digest person, I have to say that the floods of pointless "I'm wittier
than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are far more annoying than really
really long posts that actually contain some interesting information.


Tom

michael knight wrote:

> At 03:34 PM 1/11/2001 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> >do you realize your post (so large it had to be split into 2 parts) was as
> >large as all the rest of the list traffic on a given day?
>
> whoa, even on a day like wednesday, january 10, 2001?
>
> i'm gessing noble "not here for" long doesn't really care.  whatta dick!
>
> the "e" is for "enforcer",
> mk
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> It's tough being right all of the time, isn't it??
haha

im so glad someone understands


> > > when in doubt, assume i think micah should shut up.
> > get in line


whos the freak nasty?

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>
>in the future, please refrain from posting extremely long things to the
>list.
>
>especially if they're available online already, like this one was.  this
>isn't usenet alt.conspiracy, and the majority of us on here don't care for
>paranoid rants.

You are so obviously part of the conspiracy. GET OFF HIS BACK, COP!
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> As a non-digest person, I have to say that the floods of 
> pointless "I'm wittier
> than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are far more 
> annoying than really
> really long posts that actually contain some interesting information.
what exactly are you trying to say?
cos i don't think its nearly clear enough.

as a non-digest person I have to say that the floods of 
pointless "I'm wittier than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are 
the BREAD AND BUTTER of mw-raves.  I'd also challenge any suggestion that
those really long posts had any interesting information.


mw-wit

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Subject: [mw] activ8 last night

thanks to people who came out, and especially those who bought me drinks!
i got to see them twice!
 now if we can just get all the people away from the bar and
onto the dance floor...only in dayton will there be 40 people in a dance
club...and all of them in the corner by the bar. but! some dancers
started dancing around 2am. 
  React and Calabreeze were awesome. Judas and I didn't play because I
have problems reading a schedule. But, they'll be hardcore Feb 7th or
something. 
  
 women beat their men,

                          tara

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this has been contested several times in the past, and it seems that a
seemingly pointless post by a mw-regular is rave-related solely in the fact
that they are a mw-regular.

I dont care really, i use mw-raves to make sure my mail server is still up.

/me prays for alcohol.

-t

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Subject: RE: [mw] THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA (part 1)

as a non-digest person I have to say that the floods of 
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>As a non-digest person, I have to say that the floods of pointless "I'm 
>wittier
>than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are far more annoying than really
>really long posts that actually contain some interesting information.

i know, i'm more tempted to unsub with each new chapter of the "Andrew 
Bennett vs. StevenJ Game of One-Upsmanship".  those guys are so immature!!

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>wow we'll have to generate more traffic then michael!

is this a challenge?

>quick:
>1980s show that had robert eurich as the star, it was like the enforcer and
>stuff...
>amazing shoe
>
>what was it called?
>i can never remember

spenser: for hire ?

mk
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Subject: Re: [mw] THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA (part 1)


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>
> quick:
> 1980s show that had robert eurich as the star, it was like the enforcer
and
> stuff...


The Equalizer?







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On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:46:00PM -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
> no matter how good of an idea they sound, i have never eaten a garden
> burger/boca burger thingie that i liked.

Boca burgers are OK if you grill 'em...  They're horrible microwaved and
they're decent in a frying pan.

It's all about not dogs.

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Subject: [mw] the show was called...

Spencer for Hire.
There ya go Micha

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and it also stared Benjamin Cisco from Deep Space 9
(forgot his real name) as hawk, the Shaft esc
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eat real meat you pussy's!!!!
"its ok to eat meat, those little animals deserved to
die"

--- "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote:
> > no matter how good of an idea they sound, i have
> never eaten a garden
> > burger/boca burger thingie that i liked.
> well it looks like i explicitly stated it but i
> didnt mean to, but i dont
> like them all either
> but i do like most of them
> some more than others, depends on my mood
> but morningstar's fake chicken things own me,
> ESPECIALLY their buffalo wings
> 
> yummy tummy micah
> 
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From mw-raves-return-14062-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 11 21:56:05 2001
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dude whatever I TOTALLY BEAT YOU TO IT.

and it was spelled with an "s".  i mean two of them, spenser.  and a 
colon.  spenser: for hire.

mk urich

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"Topping, Micah" wrote:

>
> what exactly are you trying to say?
> cos i don't think its nearly clear enough.
>
> as a non-digest person I have to say that the floods of
> pointless "I'm wittier than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are
> the BREAD AND BUTTER of mw-raves.  I'd also challenge any suggestion that
> those really long posts had any interesting information.
>

Bread and butter?  To a few maybe.  I consider the 1% of posts that actually
contain good information or insightful views my bread and butter.  I enjoy
the witty banter to an extent, but c'mon, there are only so many times you
can hear permutations of "trance sucks" or "where's the hardcore?" so many
times in a week before it gets REALLY old.  And it's gotten DAMN old lately.

I would disagree with how interesting those long posts are.  They aren't rave
related, to be sure, but as someone who's done a lot of research into the
traditional uses of intoxicants, I found that first article to be one of the
better overviews of the subject I've read, and the second one had a good bit
on the Assassins.  To each his own.


Tom

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yeah, stop using MS products.

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->Stevie T, ah yes...I remember him. I take it he is no longer a subscriber.
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Subject: Re: [mw] gone?  or just forgotten?

when any mother in the world can go Xmas shopping for their child and buy
them a pair... you know how mother's are. why hit a specialty store when
it's at Penny's or Sears? (at least that's how MY mom is)


On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

>
> >it's at JC Penny's in the mall. too popular now, though I still have a
> >pair of them laying around in a closet somewhere
>
>
> since when did penny's = popular?!
>
> yikes.
>
> mk
>
>
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>A M E R I C A N C H E E S E P R E S E N T S
>
>K R A F T Y B E A T S
>JANUARY 27, 2001
>DAYTON, OH
>$10 @ THE DOOR
>
>In January of 2000, a fledgling rave promotion company known only as 
>American Cheese Productions brought Columbus a new kind of event - an 
>event focused on the happy sounds of hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up 
>jungle. Unfortunately, circumstances prevented the planned follow-up 
>events from ever happening, and central Ohio was left with a void where 
>hardcore concerned.
>
>One long year later, American Cheese has been reborn not as a rave 
>production company, but as a network of happy hardcore DJ's and producers 
>throughout the mid- west and east coast. To celebrate the launch of our 
>new website (www.americancheese.org), we present a showcase of our core 
>members, along with our very special guest DJ VIRUS, all the way from 
>Toronto, Canada.
>Capacity is extremely limited for this intimate evening of hard and happy 
>sounds. If you aren't coming out for the music, please go somewhere else. 
>ROAR will be in full effect shady thugs and drugs are unwanted & unwelcome.
>SMILING FACES ONLY
>
>L I N E U P
>
>DJ VIRUS - (purerave.com - Toronto) - HAPPY HARDCORE
>
>MICHAEL KNIGHT - HAPPY HARDCORE(American Cheese - Chicago/Columbus)
>vs AC SLATER - HAPPY HARDCORE
>(American Cheese/WickedStreak - West Virginia/Philadelphia)
>
>DJ EOR - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - South Bend)
>vs
>JOHNNY P - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese/Evil Twin - Indianapolis)
>vs
>DJ HOCUS - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - Columbus)
>
>D.J. TANNER - (American Cheese - Cincinnati) - HARDCORE
>
>DJ KITCHEN SYNC - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE|
>
>DJ NIMBY - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE
>
>I N F O
>January 27, 2001 @ Antioch College in yellow springs [near Dayton, OH]
>
>I N F O L I N E : (614) 470-2064
>
>W E B S I T E
>
><http://www.americancheese.org/>www.americancheese.org
>
>$10 at the door - NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, MARKERS, SPRAYCANS
>NO SHADY INDIVIDUALS! YOU COME TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL
>HARDCORE SCENE, NOT TO GET FUCKED UP! RESPECT THE VENUE
>AND RESPECT THE TALENT...CENTRAL OHIO DOES NOT GET ENOUGH
>EVENTS LIKE THIS! PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT US!
>
>Lights and Sound provided by:
>Sensorium, Columbus, OHIO (614) 451.5601
>
>Respect to all who are keeping hardcore alive in Ohio
>Come out and support us! We'll see you there!

________________________________________________________________________
michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org
michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org
ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC


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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>A M E R I
C A N C H E E S E P R E S E N T S <br>
<br>
K R A F T Y B E A T S <br>
JANUARY 27, 2001 <br>
DAYTON, OH <br>
$10 @ THE DOOR <br>
<br>
In January of 2000, a fledgling rave promotion company known only as
American Cheese Productions brought Columbus a new kind of event - an
event focused on the happy sounds of hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up
jungle. Unfortunately, circumstances prevented the planned follow-up
events from ever happening, and central Ohio was left with a void where
hardcore concerned. <br>
<br>
One long year later, American Cheese has been reborn not as a rave
production company, but as a network of happy hardcore DJ's and producers
throughout the mid- west and east coast. To celebrate the launch of our
new website
(<a href="http://www.americancheese.org/" eudora="autourl">www.americancheese.org</a>),
we present a showcase of our core members, along with our very special
guest DJ VIRUS, all the way from Toronto, Canada. <br>
Capacity is extremely limited for this intimate evening of hard and happy
sounds. If you aren't coming out for the music, please go somewhere else.
ROAR will be in full effect shady thugs and drugs are unwanted &amp;
unwelcome. <br>
SMILING FACES ONLY <br>
<br>
L I N E U P <br>
<br>
DJ VIRUS - (purerave.com - Toronto) - HAPPY HARDCORE <br>
<br>
MICHAEL KNIGHT - HAPPY HARDCORE(American Cheese - Chicago/Columbus) 
<br>
vs AC SLATER - HAPPY HARDCORE <br>
(American Cheese/WickedStreak - West Virginia/Philadelphia) <br>
<br>
DJ EOR - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - South Bend) <br>
vs <br>
JOHNNY P - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese/Evil Twin - Indianapolis)
<br>
vs <br>
DJ HOCUS - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - Columbus) <br>
<br>
D.J. TANNER - (American Cheese - Cincinnati) - HARDCORE <br>
<br>
DJ KITCHEN SYNC - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE| <br>
<br>
DJ NIMBY - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE <br>
<br>
I N F O <br>
January 27, 2001 @ Antioch College in yellow springs [near Dayton, OH]
<br>
<br>
I N F O L I N E : (614) 470-2064 <br>
<br>
W E B S I T E <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.americancheese.org/">www.americancheese.org</a> 
<br>
<br>
$10 at the door - NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, MARKERS, SPRAYCANS <br>
NO SHADY INDIVIDUALS! YOU COME TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL <br>
HARDCORE SCENE, NOT TO GET FUCKED UP! RESPECT THE VENUE <br>
AND RESPECT THE TALENT...CENTRAL OHIO DOES NOT GET ENOUGH <br>
EVENTS LIKE THIS! PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT US! <br>
<br>
Lights and Sound provided by: <br>
Sensorium, Columbus, OHIO (614) 451.5601 <br>
<br>
Respect to all who are keeping hardcore alive in Ohio <br>
Come out and support us! We'll see you there! </font></blockquote><br>

________________________________________________________________________ <br>
michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - <a href="http://www.americancheese.org/" eudora="autourl"><font color="#0000FF"><u>www.americancheese.org</a></u></font> <br>
michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org <br>
ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC<br>
<br>
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>  women beat their men,

and i beat anyone who plays that track within earshot
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

-->this isn't usenet alt.conspiracy, and the majority of us on here
-->don't care for paranoid rants.  those of us who do will gladly
-->follow a link if posted

yes.  and please include [PRR] (Paranoid Rant Related) in the subject
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> Bread and butter?  To a few maybe.  I consider the 1% of posts that actually
> contain good information or insightful views my bread and butter.  I enjoy
> the witty banter to an extent, but c'mon, there are only so many times you
> can hear permutations of "trance sucks" or "where's the hardcore?" so many
> times in a week before it gets REALLY old.  And it's gotten DAMN old lately.

maybe you shouldn't shop for your bread and butter at the joke shop.

more clever than you,

chrise
(the e is for margarinE and English muffins)

btw, as a minnesotan, you should know the butter-to-noise ratio here is
much higher than your only other sources of local rave information,
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trance sucks.  where's the hardcore?

mk

At 03:59 PM 1/11/2001 -0600, Tom Sprynczynatyk wrote:


>"Topping, Micah" wrote:
>
> >
> > what exactly are you trying to say?
> > cos i don't think its nearly clear enough.
> >
> > as a non-digest person I have to say that the floods of
> > pointless "I'm wittier than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are
> > the BREAD AND BUTTER of mw-raves.  I'd also challenge any suggestion that
> > those really long posts had any interesting information.
> >
>
>Bread and butter?  To a few maybe.  I consider the 1% of posts that actually
>contain good information or insightful views my bread and butter.  I enjoy
>the witty banter to an extent, but c'mon, there are only so many times you
>can hear permutations of "trance sucks" or "where's the hardcore?" so many
>traditional uses of intoxicants, I found that first article to be one of the
>better overviews of the subject I've read, and the second one had a good bit
>on the Assassins.  To each his own.
>
>
>Tom
>
> >
> > mw-wit
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> btw, as a minnesotan, you should know the butter-to-noise ratio here is
> much higher than your only other sources of local rave information,
> mnrave.com and thevibe.

    You can't forget your ever-informative number one source for florida
rave information, the mnrave list.

Matt Murphy
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Its already done by a goa/psy artist called "Texas faggot."
Oddly appropiate.



tad

At 02:06 PM 1/11/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
>now your getting it...when doormouse samples the new kids..oh my god ...i
get 
>wet just thinking about it. 
>now i have to take a shower
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>===== Original Message From "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> =====
>>Personally, i prefer some Autechre when i'm getting my freek on. Or certain
>>cuts from "sheet one." Or Biggie Smalls feat. R Kelly "fucking you tonight"
>>that one's prolly my favorite, actaully. Unless I'm feeling really saucy,
>>and then I put on the New Kids.
>>/me references that scene in Mall rats.
>>Happy fucking!
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>At 09:52 PM 1/10/01 -0600, nakedgirl wrote:
>>> >When are you all just going to get it through your heads once and for
>>>all...
>>> >it has nothing to do with merit or your opinions... and it has everything
>>>to
>>> >do with sex..and hardcore IS (implying a fact there) the best to fuck
>>>too.
>>>
>>>bull shit. you have never been properly fucked then *period* (implying
>>>ultimate truth here).
>>>Get over your naive thinking that *fast/hard* bumping is the end all be all
>>>to sex, get a lil more complicated than that... how old are you? 8?
>>>puhlease.  "hardcore IS..." wow what sophistication, shit PUT THE CRACK
>>>PIPE DOWN.
>>>
>>>
>>>that is all.
>>>
>>>
>>>tad
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >by the way i am going to sue Dave Thomas...I am hot n juicy..his daughter
>>>is a
>>> >dog and his hamburgers suck!!!!
>>> >
>>> >whendee
>>> >
>>> >Whendee Messick
>>> >
>>> >still looking for pics
>>> >
>>> >>===== Original Message From Futuristic Funk <tmacld@yahoo.com> =====
>>> >>You say Hardcore has artist merit. Some people may
>>> >>think it's noise.
>>> >>
>>> >>TM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>>> >>wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >I wouldn't say it sucks. Maybe it's just not your
>>> >>> >taste. Personally I love DnB and thing Hardcore is
>>> >>> ok
>>> >>> >nothing to scream about. But I would say it sucks.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> you think paul oakenfields has artistic merit.  your
>>> >>> opinion is irrelevant.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> mk
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>________________________________________________________________________
>>> >>> michael knight - stateside happy hardcore -
>>> >>> www.americancheese.org
>>> >>> michael@happy.hardcorps.org -
>>> >>> michael@americancheese.org
>>> >>> ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>
> >
> > what exactly are you trying to say?
> > cos i don't think its nearly clear enough.
> >
> > as a non-digest person I have to say that the floods of
> > pointless "I'm wittier than you" replies among a certain mw-clique are
> > the BREAD AND BUTTER of mw-raves.  I'd also challenge any suggestion that
> > those really long posts had any interesting information.
> >
>
>Bread and butter?  To a few maybe.

count me in

>   I consider the 1% of posts that actually
>contain good information or insightful views my bread and butter.  I enjoy
>the witty banter to an extent, but c'mon, there are only so many times you
>can hear permutations of "trance sucks" or "where's the hardcore?" so many
>times in a week before it gets REALLY old.  And it's gotten DAMN old lately.

i love it when noble (or anyone else) says something stupid, because it 
means i'm about to get to read a reply from micah or tony within 3.4 
minutes... heee

>I would disagree with how interesting those long posts are.  They aren't rave
>related, to be sure, but as someone who's done a lot of research into the
>traditional uses of intoxicants, I found that first article to be one of the
>better overviews of the subject I've read, and the second one had a good bit
>on the Assassins.  To each his own.

the long posts are definitely NRR, they weren't tagged as such, and i think 
its stupid to publicly complain about them when they only take about 9 
seconds each to download at 2kB/sec on a modem (and i *know* if you're on 
mw you're taking 1-2 minutes to download all your mail anyways, if you're a 
once-a-day type) is retarded.

dorkily,
-j

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At 03:56 PM 1/11/01 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
>> no matter how good of an idea they sound, i have never eaten a garden
>> burger/boca burger thingie that i liked.
>well it looks like i explicitly stated it but i didnt mean to, but i dont
>like them all either
>but i do like most of them
>some more than others, depends on my mood
>but morningstar's fake chicken things own me, ESPECIALLY their buffalo wings
>


I used to love those... but I think I overdosed on the buffalo wing
things... Now they kinda make my stomach crawl (or something) maybe in
another year I could eat them again.


tad

>yummy tummy micah
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Where's the trance?


tad

At 03:57 PM 1/11/01 -0600, michael knight wrote:
> A M E R I C A N C H E E S E P R E S E N T S 
> 
> K R A F T Y B E A T S 
> JANUARY 27, 2001 
> DAYTON, OH 
> $10 @ THE DOOR 
> 
> In January of 2000, a fledgling rave promotion company known only as
>American Cheese Productions brought Columbus a new kind of event - an event
>focused on the happy sounds of hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up jungle.
>Unfortunately, circumstances prevented the planned follow-up events from
>ever happening, and central Ohio was left with a void where hardcore
>concerned. 
> 
> One long year later, American Cheese has been reborn not as a rave
>production company, but as a network of happy hardcore DJ's and producers
>throughout the mid- west and east coast. To celebrate the launch of our new
>website (www.americancheese.org), we present a showcase of our core
>members, along with our very special guest DJ VIRUS, all the way from
>Toronto, Canada. 
>& unwelcome. 
> SMILING FACES ONLY 
> 
> L I N E U P 
> 
> DJ VIRUS - (purerave.com - Toronto) - HAPPY HARDCORE 
> 
> MICHAEL KNIGHT - HAPPY HARDCORE(American Cheese - Chicago/Columbus)  
> vs AC SLATER - HAPPY HARDCORE 
> (American Cheese/WickedStreak - West Virginia/Philadelphia) 
> 
> DJ EOR - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - South Bend) 
> vs 
> JOHNNY P - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese/Evil Twin - Indianapolis) 
> vs 
> DJ HOCUS - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - Columbus) 
> 
> D.J. TANNER - (American Cheese - Cincinnati) - HARDCORE 
> 
> DJ KITCHEN SYNC - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE| 
> 
> DJ NIMBY - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE 
> 
> I N F O 
> January 27, 2001 @ Antioch College in yellow springs [near Dayton, OH] 
> 
> I N F O L I N E : (614) 470-2064 
> 
> W E B S I T E 
> 
> www.americancheese.org  
> 
> $10 at the door - NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, MARKERS, SPRAYCANS 
> NO SHADY INDIVIDUALS! YOU COME TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL 
> HARDCORE SCENE, NOT TO GET FUCKED UP! RESPECT THE VENUE 
> AND RESPECT THE TALENT...CENTRAL OHIO DOES NOT GET ENOUGH 
> EVENTS LIKE THIS! PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT US! 
> 
> Lights and Sound provided by: 
> Sensorium, Columbus, OHIO (614) 451.5601 
> 
> Respect to all who are keeping hardcore alive in Ohio 
> Come out and support us! We'll see you there! 
>
>  ________________________________________________________________________ 
> michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org 
> michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org 
> ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
> 
>  


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In a message dated 1/11/01 5:38:42 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< Where's the trance?
 
 
 tad >>



up my cunt... wanna get it out?





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Who do you think put it there?


At 05:39 PM 1/11/01 EST, TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 1/11/01 5:38:42 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
>sluck@frontiernet.net writes:
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><< Where's the trance?
> 
> 
> tad >>
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>up my cunt... wanna get it out?
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Strangely enough, I'd have to disagree with you on that one (and I hate to side
with mnrave about anything).  I can't even remember the last time I read info on
anything associated with raves in MN here, excepting a few reviews by Matt.  And
that stuff that fills up mnrave.com sure don't smell like butter, more of a
"Tony's Pee" bouquet.


Tom

chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

>
> btw, as a minnesotan, you should know the butter-to-noise ratio here is
> much higher than your only other sources of local rave information,
> mnrave.com and thevibe.


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--- Jeffrey Paul <sneak@datavibe.net> wrote:
> the long posts are definitely NRR, they weren't
> tagged as such, and i think 
> its stupid to publicly complain about them when they
> only take about 9 
> seconds each to download at 2kB/sec on a modem 

i don't think it's the download time that people were
complaining about, but the length of the actual
e-mail, which had a net reference. some people on the
list are subscribed to the digest, which means they
get all of the e-mails over a certain period of time
(or after a certain number are posted) in one big long
text file, which includes all of the e-mails, plus
their entire headers, plus the entire recipient list.
(which is what makes those e-mails sent to 7000 lists
annoying) that's why it's also considered general good
form to snip any irrelevant information out of a
reply.
and from what i understand, some people aren't
subscribed to the digest, but whatever program they're
using to check mail includes all of the previous
information anyway.

but then, what would i know.
pixie


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Subject: [mw] music...

27 : jan : 2001

Of course, music plays a special role in our lives, every life...

However, lately, people have been limiting their musical experience to one
closed area, they closely associate with one genre, never coming to know any
others...

...limited.

One possible way to ever come this narrow approach in the scene is to have
two DJ's who are capable in working as one in combining all musics, and
tearing down the bitter wall that separates one genre from another...

...tearing down the wall that separates us; to send a Signal.

To tear down genre walls, to un-define these stereotypes is to allow
creation, to allow the vision, to allow for ever lasting memories and
history...

...liberating.

The essence of art is too open ones mind, to be able to think, create, and
project, in anyway one chooses...

...music...

27 : jan : 2001


darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

search for "djdarwin" on napster
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Subject: Re: [mw] music...


are you trying to be mysterious or something?

this is the third time you've posted this damn flyer with no lineup.


On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, darw_n wrote:

> 27 : jan : 2001
> 
> Of course, music plays a special role in our lives, every life...
> 
> However, lately, people have been limiting their musical experience to one
> closed area, they closely associate with one genre, never coming to know any
> others...
> 
> ...limited.
> 
> One possible way to ever come this narrow approach in the scene is to have
> two DJ's who are capable in working as one in combining all musics, and
> tearing down the bitter wall that separates one genre from another...
> 
> ...tearing down the wall that separates us; to send a Signal.
> 
> To tear down genre walls, to un-define these stereotypes is to allow
> creation, to allow the vision, to allow for ever lasting memories and
> history...
> 
> ...liberating.
> 
> The essence of art is too open ones mind, to be able to think, create, and
> project, in anyway one chooses...
> 
> ...music...
> 
> 27 : jan : 2001
> 
> 
> darw_n
> 
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> 
> search for "djdarwin" on napster
> www.sphereproductions.com
> www.mannequinodd.com
> www.mp3.com/darw_n
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [mw] * KRAFTY BEATS * 01.27.01 * DAYTON, OHIO *


>Where's the trance?

your house!!  :D

mk
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--- chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> 
> are you trying to be mysterious or something?
> 
> this is the third time you've posted this damn flyer
> with no lineup.

try going to the website ;]

whoops, did i say that?
pixie


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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh amanda :)

 gt303@juno.com writes:
<< But, they'll be hardcore Feb 7th or
 something.  >>


Gabe
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tara, you promise??

amanda and i will BE THERE! (If i have to drag that bitch out of bed
kicking and screaming)


On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:

> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh amanda :)
>
>  gt303@juno.com writes:
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>
>
> Gabe
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Just a quick note to let you know that MP3.com has finally added a Jungle 
category to their genre selection, fans of Jungle and DNB can check the top40 
charts here:
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piece and sliced beats
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I LOVE theses genres....(from techno,electronic,whatever you wish to call it)


happyhardcore
hardcore
gabber (fuk yeh!)
jungle
breaks(funky breaks)
and oldschool/classic rave....
oh and ragga is fuckin awesome....

and from non techno - 

ska
punk
rock
old school hiphop
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i can't think of anything witty or even not slightly witty to say, but i
think its required by something that i signed when i joined mw-raves that i
respond if you mention my pee.

this was my response.  transcripts are available if you print this sucka
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-t

-----Original Message-----
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And that stuff that fills up mnrave.com sure don't smell like butter, more
of a
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> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:10:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ted Weinberg <te_one@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [mw] LIFT-CINCINNATI (THURDAYS JAN/FEB 2001)
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, indybassnet@egroups.com
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> Stale.
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Milwaukee, WI

Decadence- brought to you by FUNKenterprises of Milwaukee
Tonight we feature the Raw Business crew:

Brian Small
Progressive House

Josee Angel
Offering Decadence its first evening of Jungle=20

AND OUR DECADENCE RESIDENT Dj's:

Jeffree DeeFUNKenterprises
Little TreeFUNKenterprises
HelixMassive


The lowest cover in the city ($4.00)
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I think he was implying that all you Hoosiers are 'tough' like old
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tough like jello,
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>    And we're going to trust some random person from aol on this because?

No, I know her.  She's legit.  I'd belive her.

	- Joe


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>> hes not playing them etro
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Subject: [mw] South Bend lives!

ATTENTION EVERYONE!

Log Squared has recently locked down a NEW venue in South Bend.  No
mess-ups on this one.  Contracts are signed and deposits have been paid
on our new 8,000 square foot venue with access to more room if we need!
The venue is on the north side of South Bend, clean, plenty of parking,
re-modeled up to code, etc.

So, now for some better news!  We are currently planning a stream of
shows for South Bend to knock your socks off!  We thank you all for
supporting "Work It 2" in December making it THE largest show in South
Bend EVER with 1,100 people in attendance!  Our new venue is 3 times as
big as the "Work It 2" venue and will allow us to run the shows to
whatever time we desire!

Please review the information below to find out about all the great
shows Log Squared will be bringing to South Bend in the near future!
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Friday - January 26, 2001
"BRING BACK THE BASS"
South Bend, IN
Cost - $10

Featuring:
- Paul Anthony - Discolicious, Rhythm Syndicate - House - Chicago
Paul has been one of the fastest rising stars in the Midwest.  His work
has earned him recognition world-wide and landed him residencies at well
known clubs such as: The Bassment in Milwaukee, Club Orchid in
Champagne, and Space in Philadelphia.  After touring with Paul Johnson,
Paul Anthony made it clear to the world that he is on a mission... that
mission is to beat the house down!  Come welcome him for his 1st South
Bend appearance and let him know just how tough South Bend is!

-LMNts - Double E Recordings - HardHouse/NRG - Indianapolis
Brad is growing along with his Indy promotion company.  His Djing and
workings have carried him all the way to San Francisco!  Come welcome
him back to South Bend for his 2nd appearance and ask him... "what the
hell kinda music is this... it ROCKS!"

-Korova - PhysixBAM, House of Babylon - Techno - Muncie
Sean is another rising star.  Where in the hell has he been hiding all
these years?  Well... last year he busted out so hard that we know one
thing... he was not hiding... he was perfecting his skills.  Flawless
mixes to some bangin techno... you can't go wrong!

-Dementia - Log2, PhysixBAM, Vinyl Revolution
vs.
Rich D. - Log2, Vinyl Revolution
Dementia and Rich D. have been spinning together for years.  Doing
everything from individual sets to tag teams, playing each others
records for sets, etc.  Well... this night all the cute stuff will be
set aside and Dementia and Rich D. will be out for blood.  Their mission
is to see who can play the hardest most technical tracks to make your
ears bleed!  It's an old fashioned show-down!

One other DJ will be added to the bill, so please be patient.

Sound - Log Squared Sound... what else do you need to know?  Well...
know this... we will be bringing in a WALL of sound.  The dimensions
will be: 7.5 feet tall by 30 feet wide!!!!!  That totals:  12 bass bins
for a total of 18 - 18 inch speakers,
and 12 - 15 inch speakers!  Now... for those of you who know sound
design etc... you know that this is a lot of sound for a 8,000 square
foot venue.  It WILL be loud!!!!

Lighting - Intelligent lighting provided by and programmed by Log
Squared.

Laser - The new Log Squared laser will be on site to emit multiple red
and green beam effects!

So there you have it... great Dj's, great venue, great sound, great
lighting, great laser, and of course South Bend ALWAYS has great vibes
at shows!
ALL this for only $10.  So look forward to a great night!  Fliers are
out now so be on the lookout!

For more information please contact:
Log Squared - (219) 235-7071
email: log2records@voyager.net

Other upcoming shows:
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February 9, 2001
"Our friends ARE electric"
South Bend, IN
Cost $10
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MAX - Maxart - Trance - Indianapolis
Dementia - Log^2, PhysixBAM - Hard Trance/NRG- Indianapolis
Rich D. - Log^2, Vinyl Rev. -NRG - South Bend
More DJ's and info TBA.
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February 16, 2001
"Rock to the Beat"
South Bend, IN
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Subject: Re: [mw] * KRAFTY BEATS * 01.27.01 * DAYTON, OHIO *

this is the scariest thing ive ever seen in my life
everyone now knows where i wont be int he 27th

and isnt ac slater that guy from saved by the bell...i didnt know he spun
???

-THE bitch iySyS-

: >A M E R I C A N C H E E S E P R E S E N T S
: >
: >K R A F T Y B E A T S
: >JANUARY 27, 2001
: >DAYTON, OH
: >$10 @ THE DOOR
: >
: >In January of 2000, a fledgling rave promotion company known only as
: >American Cheese Productions brought Columbus a new kind of event - an
: >event focused on the happy sounds of hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up
: >jungle. Unfortunately, circumstances prevented the planned follow-up
: >events from ever happening, and central Ohio was left with a void where
: >hardcore concerned.
: >
: >One long year later, American Cheese has been reborn not as a rave
: >production company, but as a network of happy hardcore DJ's and producers
: >throughout the mid- west and east coast. To celebrate the launch of our
: >new website (www.americancheese.org), we present a showcase of our core
: >members, along with our very special guest DJ VIRUS, all the way from
: >Toronto, Canada.
: >Capacity is extremely limited for this intimate evening of hard and happy
: >sounds. If you aren't coming out for the music, please go somewhere else.
: >ROAR will be in full effect shady thugs and drugs are unwanted &
unwelcome.
: >SMILING FACES ONLY
: >
: >L I N E U P
: >
: >DJ VIRUS - (purerave.com - Toronto) - HAPPY HARDCORE
: >
: >MICHAEL KNIGHT - HAPPY HARDCORE(American Cheese - Chicago/Columbus)
: >vs AC SLATER - HAPPY HARDCORE
: >(American Cheese/WickedStreak - West Virginia/Philadelphia)
: >
: >DJ EOR - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - South Bend)
: >vs
: >JOHNNY P - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese/Evil Twin - Indianapolis)
: >vs
: >DJ HOCUS - HAPPY HARDCORE (American Cheese - Columbus)
: >
: >D.J. TANNER - (American Cheese - Cincinnati) - HARDCORE
: >
: >DJ KITCHEN SYNC - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE|
: >
: >DJ NIMBY - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE
: >
: >I N F O
: >January 27, 2001 @ Antioch College in yellow springs [near Dayton, OH]
: >
: >I N F O L I N E : (614) 470-2064
: >
: >W E B S I T E
: >
: ><http://www.americancheese.org/>www.americancheese.org
: >
: >$10 at the door - NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, MARKERS, SPRAYCANS
: >NO SHADY INDIVIDUALS! YOU COME TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL
: >HARDCORE SCENE, NOT TO GET FUCKED UP! RESPECT THE VENUE
: >AND RESPECT THE TALENT...CENTRAL OHIO DOES NOT GET ENOUGH
: >EVENTS LIKE THIS! PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT US!
: >
: >Lights and Sound provided by:
: >Sensorium, Columbus, OHIO (614) 451.5601
: >
: >Respect to all who are keeping hardcore alive in Ohio
: >Come out and support us! We'll see you there!
:
: ________________________________________________________________________
: michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org
: michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org
: ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
:
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>and isnt ac slater that guy from saved by the bell...i didnt know he spun
>???

yes, 3/8 of our crew had television shows in the 1980's.

mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] activ8 last night

yeeeeess ???
hardcore pleases me
so my new friend tom bought me a necklace yesterday...like a dogtag type
thing that says THE bitch iySyS FUCKIN HARDCORE
i love it

-THE bitch iySyS

: ohhhhhhhhhhhhh amanda :)
:
:  gt303@juno.com writes:
: << But, they'll be hardcore Feb 7th or
:  something.  >>
:
:
: Gabe
: Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam
: www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< In memory of Stevie T....gone but not forgotten. >>

i am still here.

you are clearly of the forbidden fruit of knowledge.

i pity your hell.


t
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Subject: Re: [mw] * KRAFTY BEATS * 01.27.01 * DAYTON, OHIO *

> >and isnt ac slater that guy from saved by the bell...i didnt know he spun
> >???
> 
> yes, 3/8 of our crew had television shows in the 1980's.

    And don't forget the 1/8th with local top 40 DJ careers. =] 

Matt Murphy
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Subject: Re: [mw] THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA (part 1)

hint: "jacob's ladder" does not lead to heaven.

Nostradamus Homme Mourant quatrain Number Five:

Darkness in Flanders, France and England

As the new year of 2001 begins.

Now comes the Lord in glory, not in light

But reborn in the shadow of a dying sun.

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WOOHOO!!!

-t

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nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< In memory of Stevie T....gone but not forgotten. >>

i am still here.

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i'm with homer, i never trusted that flanders guy.

i missed you so much stevie t!  meet me at a rave and we will do mad liquid!

/me is struck by a bolt of lightning.

never mind, it was just a little splash from my...

40,
-t

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Darkness in Flanders, France and England

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I HEARD IT WAS BOOGIE TRIBE NOT METRO! BELIEVE THE AOL

On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Adam Meadows wrote:

> 
> Because its apparently true.  Latest word is that he is NOT playing at the 
> Metro after all and IS playing for BoogieTribe at some different venue.  But 
> I am not the primary source for that info, just passing it through from more 
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> Adam
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> > > hes not playing them etro
> > > hes playing the boogie tribe party
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> >guess
> > > he hasnt updates his web page.
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i thought you were banned?

oh well.  what's good for the paranoid delusional is good for the gander, 
innit!?

mk

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i missed you so much it hurt

hurt about as much as 50 micah posts.

/me cant wait for the shitstorm to begin.


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> hint: "jacob's ladder" does not lead to heaven.
> 
> Nostradamus Homme Mourant quatrain Number Five:
> 
> Darkness in Flanders, France and England
> 
> As the new year of 2001 begins.
> 
> Now comes the Lord in glory, not in light
> 
> But reborn in the shadow of a dying sun.
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nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< Letters to editor, Mike Coyle: . 
 
 Submission of articles for publication within the MindNet 
 Journal on the subjects of mind control, directed-energy 
 weapons, non-lethal weapons, ritual abuse, UFO abductions, 
 bioelectromagnetics, hypnosis and other related topics 
 will be accepted with the author's statement of permission 
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 32314, Oakland, CA 94604-2314 USA.  >>

California?!...so have you been to a Funky Tekno Tribe or Cool 
World party?...have you heard of Ron D Core or DJ Dan or Carlos 
spin?...what have you done to perpetuate the garden of eden?...
what endeavors have you made in the name of peace, love, unity,
or respect?...please do not tell me you have wasted all your 
energy dwelling in forbidden knowledge with the only motivation 
of controlling the masses for your superiority complex.

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i know where u better be the 27th

baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< this is the scariest thing ive ever seen in my life
 everyone now knows where i wont be int he 27th >>


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happy 1.11.01 everyone!

for the significance of 11:11, check http://www.greatdreams.com
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from http://www.gendex.net/lexington/predicts.htm...

pay close attention to the first and the last quatrain...

THE TRANSIT OF THE SUN

Things start, advance, and end. For a long time, things go one way, then 
their time is up, and things change, for they have come to their end. 
Nostradamus 5Q53-

La loi du Sol, & Venus contendens
Appropriant l'esperant de prophetie:
Ne l'un ne l'autre ne seront entendus
Par Sol Tiendra la loy du grand Messie.

The law of the Sun contending with Venus, 
Appropriating the spirit of prophesy:
Neither the one nor the other will be understood,
the law of the great Messiah retained through the Sun. 

This 5Q53 sets up the coming of Mr. Gurdjieff, and reflects the Enneagram.


GURDJIEFFS TRAVELS, AND ALSO HIS WOMEN 
Nostradamus 5Q54-

Du pont Euxine, & la grand Tartarie, 
Un roi sera qui viendra voir la Gaule 
Transpercera Alane @ l'Armenie, 
Et dans Bisance lairra sanglante Gaule.

>From the Black Sea and great Tartary, 
there will be a king who will come to see France.
He will pass thru Alania and Armenia
and leave his bloody rod in Babylon.

The change in translation of the last line is discussed at the end of this 
page. Racially speaking, Mr. Gurdjieff is an Andite. Real Andites love to 
win. This race has several names, classically called "Caucasian", because 
10,000 years ago, the Andites had a great civilization in the region between 
the Caspian and the Black Seas, the Caucasus mountains. Other names include 
"black Greeks" and Vikings. In WWII, the Greek resistance named itself 
"Andartes". Andites are of the top tier of races - see in the Urantia Book 
about "Andites". Many of the people erroneously called "Caucasian" today are 
actually of the light blue race.

At the time of the Russian revolution, Gurdjieff led his students out of 
chaotic Russia on a long walk over the mountains.

The previous quatrain not only describes his travels, it is also about women 
he would know. The line about leaving his bloody rod in Babylon has to do 
with him putting out some tough questions under an anonymous name that must 
have given theIMF big problems. The next quatrain refers to his lifestyle:


GURDJIEFF'S FUNERAL 
Nostradamus 5Q57-

Istra du Mont Gaulfier & Aventin, 
Qui par tres aventira l'armee: 
Entre deux rocs sera prins le butin,
De SEXT mansol faillir le renominee.

There will go forth from Monegaulfier and the Aventine one,
who through a hole will warn the army.
The booty will be taken between two rocks.
The reknown of SEXT will fail.

At his funeral, many people came along for the march. Mr. Gurjieff's machine 
(that is how we in the Fourth Way refer to the moving-instinctive center) is 
laid between two rocks. The lights went out at his funeral, and the Teacher 
said this meant that it was no longer a conscious school, as there was no new 
Master.

Final Resting place of G. I. Gurdjieff


CUT IN THE HAND

Nostradamus 5Q58-

De l'aquaduct d'Uticense, Gardoing
Par la forest & mont inaccessible,
En mi du pont sera tasche` au poing,
Le chef nemans & qui tant sera terrible.

By the aquaduct of Uzes by Gard,
through the forest and inaccessible mountain;
in the middle of the bridge he will be cut in the hand,
The chief of nemans who will be very terrible.

Most of these quatrains have at least three levels of meaning. CUT IN THE 
HAND is theIMF's way of doing business.

Nostradamus 5Q59-

Au chef Anglois a1 Nimes trop sejour, 
Devers l'Espaigne au secours Aenobarbe:
Plusiers mourrant par Mars ouvert ce jour. 
Quand an Artois failler estoille en barbe.

The English chief stays too long at Nimes
toward Spain Aenobarbe to the rescue. 
Many will die through war started on that day,
when a bearded star falls in Artois.

GURDJIEFFS TRAVELS, AND ALSO HIS WOMEN 
Nostradamus 5Q54-

Du pont Euxine, & la grand Tartarie, 
Un roi sera qui viendra voir la Gaule 
Transpercera Alane @ l'Armenie, 
Et dans Bisance lairra sanglante Gaule.

>From the Black Sea and great Tartary, 
there will be a king who will come to see France.
He will pass thru Alania and Armenia
and leave his bloody rod in Babylon.

The change in translation of the last line is discussed at the end of this 
page. Racially speaking, Mr. Gurdjieff is an Andite. Real Andites love to 
win. This race has several names, classically called "Caucasian", because 
10,000 years ago, the Andites had a great civilization in the region between 
the Caspian and the Black Seas, the Caucasus mountains. Other names include 
"black Greeks" and Vikings. In WWII, the Greek resistance named itself 
"Andartes". Andites are of the top tier of races - see in the Urantia Book 
about "Andites". Many of the people erroneously called "Caucasian" today are 
actually of the light blue race.


ALAN GREENSPAN

Nostradamus 5Q60- 
The following is evidently about Alan Greenspan, presently (2000) Chairman of 
the United States Federal Reserve:

Par Testa rase viendra bien mal eslire, 
Plus que sa charge ne porte passera
Si grand fureur & raige fera dire, 
Qu'a` feu & sang tout sexe trenchera.

Through the shaven heads he will be seen to be wrongly elected.
Burdened with a load he cannot carry. 
He will be made to proclaim with such great fury and rage 
That all one sex will be cut to pieces by fire and blood.

The shaven heads - they saw thru his confirmation as chairman of the Federal 
Reserve. They see things thru, that is how they do things. Burdened is his 
attitude. All-one-sex is THE UNSEEN MODEL, thoroughly impressed with his 
acting; as well I think as meaning investors, or it might mean the basically 
all-male U.S. Senate, or both. Alan Greenspans' day job is like that of many 
of the conspirators - he puts on a common man voice, and calls in to radio 
talk shows with opinions designed to influence.

THE CHILD WHO DID NOT PLAY ALONG

Nostradamus 5Q61-
The great man is the Master teacher, the child is his student. The child of 
the great man has a great brain and a big mouth. He is shy and sensitive and 
tends to run away. He has lost touch with too many of his friends.

L'enfant du grand n'estant a` sa` naissance,
Subjugera les haunts monts Apennis
Fera trembler tous ceux de la balance
Et de monts feux jusques a` mont Senis.

The child of the great man, not thru his birth
will subjugate the high Apennine mountains. 
He will make all those under the balance tremble,
Fire from the mountains as far as Mt. Senis

Nostradamus 5Q62 -

Sur les rochers song on les verra plowvier
Sol Orient, Saturne Occidental
Pres d'Orgon Guerre, d'Rome grand mal voir
Nefa perfendra & Prins le Tridental.

Blood will be seen to rain on the rocks,
Sun in the East, Saturn in the West.
War near Orgon, a great evil seen near Rome,
ships sunken and trident taken.


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Get yer shit strate boy, SBTB was on in tha nineties too.  Yeesh, I think I
saw every episode of that damn show, but not neccessarily by choice. @ least
most of tha chix were hot...

huzzah!!

michael knight wrote:

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> yes, 3/8 of our crew had television shows in the 1980's.
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In the beginning...
 
 America was founded upon by a few basic principles:
 life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
 
 As I sit here in my apartment with my "invisible shackles", I
 fully realize what a complete lie that has become.
 
 They should have added, "if you are white" at the end
 of it.
 
 Mysteriously, I had done everything right...Perfect parents:
 father a doctor, mother a nurse, from a royal blood line of
 Chinese...Bible School at a Baptist Church, Catholic School
 for 2nd Grade, Protestant Prep School, College at Case 
 Western Reserve University, considered the Ivy League 
 School of Ohio...graduated with a double degree and a minor
 ...so how you may ask am i currently stuck with a part time
 job with barely enough to get by?...a slave to the white 
 supremist beast?...actually i count my lucky stars that i have
 not been incarcerated in the legal concentration camps that
 they have imprisoned most of the blacks in by forcing them 
 into crime by not hiring them entirely or paying them minimum
 wage with no benefits...although, i think they did finally bump
 up minumum wage here in Columbus by 50 cents if you stay
 with the job for 3 months...
 
 Early Oppresive Brain Washing Tactics...
 
 2nd Grade...I was told I was a "gook", although at the
 time I had no idea what it meant...apparently, it gave 
 them an excuse to beat up on me and spit at my 
 general direction...although I excelled later on in grade
 school, i was constantly berated and tortured for it...
 i was literally physically forced to pretend to be stupid
 
 Prep School...Even worse..."ponding" was the prefered
 method of abuse, followed by constant name calling, simply
 for being non-white...atleast blacks were respected for their
 sport endeavors...again, any grades above average resulted
 in secret tortures...
 
 College...was a sham for my parents to part with $100,000 in
 college tuition...the secret there was, whites were selected to
 become brothers in fraternities which had copies of old exams,
 which gave them an unfair advantage over the minorities, who 
 had to study twice as hard, resulting in minimal or no social lives
 whatsoever...i was lucky, in that i was selected to partake in an
 originally jewish fraternity...unfortunately, they did not have copies
 of old architecture or art history exams, which was my major...
 
 the Creator...one good thing from being a part of a fraternity,
 it gave me the organizational skills to help throw Cleveland's
 first undergound parties in the early 90's...the first party was
 $1/head to cover the keg...gear was free from being a part of
 WRUW...
 
 the Shepherd...i was the one who initially got the party kids 
 into the clubs by giving away free passes on WRUW...i was
 also the ones who gathered the kids for most of the initial
 raves by helping pass out all the flyers
 
 the Corporate Scam...unable to get a job in my field without 
 graduate school, i worked at MBNA America Bank...great job
 intially, i became their best rep within a month...worked there
 for three and a half years, yet they would not promote me,
 ironically, they would promote the prettier white folk even the
 ones who had not finished college...a "glass ceiling" i do 
 believe that is what it is called...although, i think MBNA may 
 have changed its ways by now.
 
 Introduction to the Ghetto life...after moving to Columbus from
 Cleveland...i knew very few people out here...one of the few
 people i knew was Jinx...Jinx became my roommate...unfortunately
 Jinx was black with no car and a kid...Jinx could not get a
 decent job while he lived with me...as a result i had to cover 5
 months rent and bills while he lived with me...he barely got by 
 by working a job that only gave him work a few days a week and
 by doing "other" things...unable to make my bills all the time
 due to Jinx killed my credit rating as well as my apartment credit
 rating, which is why to this day i haven't been able to move out
 of this apartment...
 
 Intentional Unemployment...due to some inane false accusations
 most probably from living with Jinx, i was intentionally unemployed
 for several periods of a time in hopes of driving me into the same
 life that Jinx had...luckily, my parents and sisters were able to help
 me out during my lowest points...
 
 Lord of Hosts...after Jinx, i also helped house a few other "homeless"
 kids: Rob Rothschild, Layla Stoneburner, and Rachel Gardner...
 i was also the one who gathered up all the Ohio promotors
 for the Family Affair 5 meeting (since mike and i were the ones who
 gathered up all the promotors for the first Family Affair meeting at
 Baker's Square Deli in Cleveland Heights in 1993)...Family Affair 5
 with attendance of 2000, was an all free party except for the price
 charged by the owner of the land...
 
 the Saviour and the Messenger...despite all this, i still delivered 
 the Oracle Papers to Lashutka pre Y2K, still deciphered Revelation 
 13 to prevent the Clinton Assasination Attempt, still delivered the 
 messages of the Bible Code, still delivered the message of the
 Presidential Curse, and still delivered the message of the NEO's
 all for free... 

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ron d core aint nuttin to fuck wit

as for the garden of eden, fuckit

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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ron d core aint nuttin to fuck wit

as for the garden of eden, fuckit

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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> << Letters to editor, Mike Coyle: . 
>  
>  Submission of articles for publication within the MindNet 
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>  32314, Oakland, CA 94604-2314 USA.  >>
> 
> California?!...so have you been to a Funky Tekno Tribe or Cool 
> World party?...have you heard of Ron D Core or DJ Dan or Carlos 
> spin?...what have you done to perpetuate the garden of eden?...
> what endeavors have you made in the name of peace, love, unity,
> or respect?...please do not tell me you have wasted all your 
> energy dwelling in forbidden knowledge with the only motivation 
> of controlling the masses for your superiority complex.
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um, ok that's enough for now.

still luv ya tho,
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Subject: Re: [mw] The Death of the American Dream at the Hands of White Supremists

dude, you left out he part where you said the only reason you could not get
a job was because you could not get the software you needed to learn in
order to be employable.  a cad program, if i remember correctly.  i offered
to take whatever steps needed to get you that software, so you could get a
job, and you ignored the offer.  you sent a reply that completly ignored my
attempt to help you help yourself.

at that moment you proved you were either:

a. full of shit, and it was more than a lack of "software" holding you down.
(ie lack of character)

b. lazy.  and thud un-employable.  at least for any kind of responsible job.

that moment, stevie, was when i realized that you were a lost cause.  and if
you were the rave creator you claimed to be, it sure as hell explained a lot
about where the rave scene is now.

i lean towards b.  i think you would much rather sit around bitching about a
lack of a job, while ignoring help offered, that go out and actually work.
it's actually very ravey of you.  when i consider that i see how it may be
true that you created the rave scene.


i blame rave culture on stevie t

ps. keep in mind, i was supportive of you. until you showed your true colors
to me by refusing the help you claimed to so need.  you have made your po
ass bed.

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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> In the beginning...
>
>  America was founded upon by a few basic principles:
>  life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
>
>  As I sit here in my apartment with my "invisible shackles", I
>  fully realize what a complete lie that has become.
>
>  They should have added, "if you are white" at the end
>  of it.
>
>  Mysteriously, I had done everything right...Perfect parents:
>  father a doctor, mother a nurse, from a royal blood line of
>  Chinese...Bible School at a Baptist Church, Catholic School
>  for 2nd Grade, Protestant Prep School, College at Case
>  Western Reserve University, considered the Ivy League
>  School of Ohio...graduated with a double degree and a minor
>  ...so how you may ask am i currently stuck with a part time
>  job with barely enough to get by?...a slave to the white
>  supremist beast?...actually i count my lucky stars that i have
>  not been incarcerated in the legal concentration camps that
>  they have imprisoned most of the blacks in by forcing them
>  into crime by not hiring them entirely or paying them minimum
>  wage with no benefits...although, i think they did finally bump
>  up minumum wage here in Columbus by 50 cents if you stay
>  with the job for 3 months...
>
>  Early Oppresive Brain Washing Tactics...
>
>  2nd Grade...I was told I was a "gook", although at the
>  time I had no idea what it meant...apparently, it gave
>  them an excuse to beat up on me and spit at my
>  general direction...although I excelled later on in grade
>  school, i was constantly berated and tortured for it...
>  i was literally physically forced to pretend to be stupid
>
>  Prep School...Even worse..."ponding" was the prefered
>  method of abuse, followed by constant name calling, simply
>  for being non-white...atleast blacks were respected for their
>  sport endeavors...again, any grades above average resulted
>  in secret tortures...
>
>  College...was a sham for my parents to part with $100,000 in
>  college tuition...the secret there was, whites were selected to
>  become brothers in fraternities which had copies of old exams,
>  which gave them an unfair advantage over the minorities, who
>  had to study twice as hard, resulting in minimal or no social lives
>  whatsoever...i was lucky, in that i was selected to partake in an
>  originally jewish fraternity...unfortunately, they did not have copies
>  of old architecture or art history exams, which was my major...
>
>  the Creator...one good thing from being a part of a fraternity,
>  it gave me the organizational skills to help throw Cleveland's
>  first undergound parties in the early 90's...the first party was
>  $1/head to cover the keg...gear was free from being a part of
>  WRUW...
>
>  the Shepherd...i was the one who initially got the party kids
>  into the clubs by giving away free passes on WRUW...i was
>  also the ones who gathered the kids for most of the initial
>  raves by helping pass out all the flyers
>
>  the Corporate Scam...unable to get a job in my field without
>  graduate school, i worked at MBNA America Bank...great job
>  intially, i became their best rep within a month...worked there
>  for three and a half years, yet they would not promote me,
>  ironically, they would promote the prettier white folk even the
>  ones who had not finished college...a "glass ceiling" i do
>  believe that is what it is called...although, i think MBNA may
>  have changed its ways by now.
>
>  Introduction to the Ghetto life...after moving to Columbus from
>  Cleveland...i knew very few people out here...one of the few
>  people i knew was Jinx...Jinx became my roommate...unfortunately
>  Jinx was black with no car and a kid...Jinx could not get a
>  decent job while he lived with me...as a result i had to cover 5
>  months rent and bills while he lived with me...he barely got by
>  by working a job that only gave him work a few days a week and
>  by doing "other" things...unable to make my bills all the time
>  due to Jinx killed my credit rating as well as my apartment credit
>  rating, which is why to this day i haven't been able to move out
>  of this apartment...
>
>  Intentional Unemployment...due to some inane false accusations
>  most probably from living with Jinx, i was intentionally unemployed
>  for several periods of a time in hopes of driving me into the same
>  life that Jinx had...luckily, my parents and sisters were able to help
>  me out during my lowest points...
>
>  Lord of Hosts...after Jinx, i also helped house a few other "homeless"
>  kids: Rob Rothschild, Layla Stoneburner, and Rachel Gardner...
>  i was also the one who gathered up all the Ohio promotors
>  for the Family Affair 5 meeting (since mike and i were the ones who
>  gathered up all the promotors for the first Family Affair meeting at
>  Baker's Square Deli in Cleveland Heights in 1993)...Family Affair 5
>  with attendance of 2000, was an all free party except for the price
>  charged by the owner of the land...
>
>  the Saviour and the Messenger...despite all this, i still delivered
>  the Oracle Papers to Lashutka pre Y2K, still deciphered Revelation
>  13 to prevent the Clinton Assasination Attempt, still delivered the
>  messages of the Bible Code, still delivered the message of the
>  Presidential Curse, and still delivered the message of the NEO's
>  all for free...
>
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hey all...

as soon as the DNS servers have updated, loophole.dhs.org will be open
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At 01:02 AM 2001-01-12, you wrote:
>i blame rave culture on stevie t

seeing as there's no culture at raves, presumably all 'rave culture' exists 
on rave related mailing lists. as this post was most definitely 'cultured' 
(think petri dish), this may be entirely true.

logically
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hmm..you dont think there is a definite rave culture?
i'd actually like to know why...I see a fairly distinct presence of a
culture at raves...or maybe you were being facetious and im being a
pedantic jerk.
nah.
-val

i have no sig file.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Jeffrey Paul wrote:

> At 01:02 AM 2001-01-12, you wrote:
> >i blame rave culture on stevie t
> 
> seeing as there's no culture at raves, presumably all 'rave culture' exists 
> on rave related mailing lists. as this post was most definitely 'cultured' 
> (think petri dish), this may be entirely true.
> 
> logically
> -j
> 
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Subject: [mw] SCARAB RECORDS EVENTS 2001

SCARAB RECORDS
EVENTS 2001
Indianapolis, Indiana

Dates for January - December!!!

FROST - Saturday, January 20th
Room One:
Recloose (Detroit Techno), Slugo (Chicago Booty House), Jonathan Keith (Deep 
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Ambient Room:
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Virgin Venue:  2 rooms of move inducing sounds, mood inducing lights and mind 
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YELLOW - Saturday, February 24th
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MORE INFO SHORTLY!!!

SHINE - Saturday, March 17th (St. Patrick's Day)
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DISCO MOJO (Goodbye 70s) - Saturday, April 28th
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Subject: Re: [mw] The Death of the American Dream at the Hands of White Supremists

wbunyan writes:

<< dude, you left out he part where you said the only reason you could not get
 a job was because you could not get the software you needed to learn in
 order to be employable.  a cad program, if i remember correctly >>

it is beyond me that there are people this ignorant...
these are the same people that claim anyone can be
a millionaire as if by "magic"!!...if it was so simple then
why isn't everyone a millionaire?...perhaps, because
typically it takes money to make money!!

it takes more than cad to get a decent arhitecture job,
especially when they're up to auto-cad 4 nowadays...
in addition, if you were an employer and you see an
applicant with just "cad" and another candidate with
cad 1-4 experience and a graduate degree, which one
would you pick?!

back to the drawing board, bunyan head!!

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Subject: [mw] heaven and earth

from Genesis...
 
 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
 
 2 And the earth was without form and void; and darkness
 was upon the face of the deep.  and the spirit of God moved
 upon the face of the waters.
 
 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
 
 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided
 the light from darkness
 
 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called
 Night.  And the evening and the morning were the first day.
 
 
 And if anyone has seen the anime "X", there are two brothers
 one represents heaven...one represents earth
 
 with the heaven brother seeking to save mankind...the earth 
 brother seeking to destroy mankind
 
 the heaven brother seeks to save the world by preventing
 an end time war and the earth brother seeks to correspond 
 to the word and initiate an end time war
 
 this also corresponds to the 2 suns/2 messiah prophecy
 
 there have been two major eclipses recently: the solar eclipse
 on aug. 11, 1999 at 11:11am, which was the grand cross alignment 
 eclipse and just this past tuesday...the lunar eclipse, whose shadow
 was cast over the Persian Gulf and where the USS Cole was 
 bombed...an obviously touchy area where the US may get involved
 with the Middleeast crisis
 
 also remember, the first sign of the end times is the white horse
 of conquering
 
 and the efforts recently of those in power have been to maintain
 the word of revelation on to a course toward the end times by:
 a) persistingly attempting to demonize me, by destroying my career,
     trying to force me into crime, trying to peg me with everything
     from espionage to sex fiend to questioning my sexual orientation
     ...when i am the one trying so desperatly to change things by
     bringing the truth into the light...it is the corrupt that deals in 
shade,
     disinformation, and false accusations
 b) persistantly demonizing foreign nations as an excuse to attack them
 c) increasing corporate power to the dismay of the masses
     who are already suffering from a recession and through
     mergers and lay-offs
 d) paving the road toward "the matrix"...more people confined
     to their homes due to lack of funds and forced into the reality
     the media chooses to spoon feed them, when it is nowhere
     remotely close to their true reality
 e) demonizing social contact: increase in sexual harrasement,
     rape, anti-porn, pro same sex programming
  

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Subject: [mw] STEAM HEAT

Lauren Foster and Fernando Sarralha invite you to
STEAM HEAT - The Hottest Party In Town

Sunday Martin Luther King Weekend - January 14, 2001
Doors Open at 10pm

Music in the Main Room - HECTOR FONSECA

in the VIP - GIRLINA

at SPA
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a Ms. B's Parties Production
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> this has been contested several times in the past, and it seems that a
> seemingly pointless post by a mw-regular is rave-related 
> solely in the fact
> that they are a mw-regular.
> 
> I dont care really, i use mw-raves to make sure my mail 
> server is still up.
> 
> /me prays for alcohol.


i think the thing we need to pay attention to is not whether the post is 
"rave related" but rather whether or not it is "mw-raves related"
and tony, you know yer just tryin to be coy, you love mw-raves and you know
it.


pity da foo

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Subject: [mw] little, yellow, nuprin

> >wow we'll have to generate more traffic then michael!
> 
> is this a challenge?
well a challenge that we should generate more traffic, more traffic THEN
michael
not more THAN michael

of course

> >quick:
> >1980s show that had robert eurich as the star, it was like 
> the enforcer and
> >stuff...
> >amazing shoe
> >
> >what was it called?
> >i can never remember
> 
> spenser: for hire ?
YES! THANK YOU EVERYONE THAT POSTED!
this is the second time i've forgotten, all i ever remember about robert
eurich
is his nuprin ads

thank you to gotti, michael, derek for naming another great show but that
was some oher guy,
and jim, who managed to privately mail me the name of all THREE shows mr
eurich was in in the 80s


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> Boca burgers are OK if you grill 'em...  They're horrible 
> microwaved and
> they're decent in a frying pan.
i know people that live by boca burgers, they claim they are JUST LIKE
mcdonalds(for better or worse)
i say they taste like what i ate for lunch in the 3rd grade
maybe because its exactly the same

> It's all about not dogs.
definitely.

what about the corn dogs? those things are awesome.
what a novel idea.

trust nothing that comes pre-grill-marked

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> > as a non-digest person I have to say that the floods of
> > pointless "I'm wittier than you" replies among a certain 
> mw-clique are
> > the BREAD AND BUTTER of mw-raves.  I'd also challenge any 
> suggestion that
> > those really long posts had any interesting information.
> >
> 
> Bread and butter?  To a few maybe.  I consider the 1% of 
> posts that actually
> contain good information or insightful views my bread and 
> butter.  I enjoy
> the witty banter to an extent, but c'mon, there are only so 
> many times you
> can hear permutations of "trance sucks" or "where's the 
> hardcore?" so many
> times in a week before it gets REALLY old.  And it's gotten 
> DAMN old lately.
well lets review what we've seen on mw-raves in the past
you may be counting the population of mw-raves to be all few hundred members
that say nothing and read/delete everything.
they don't count in my little world

the only people that count to me as mw-ravers are people that have posted at
least once
(you are ALL remembered)
and the concensus from them seems to be that its fine, seeing as they are
contributing 
to the hysteria
and if you are the one complaining about what is wrong with the masses maybe
you should
consider yourself the issue.
you can either change the nature of mw-raves or you can change how you react
to it.

its not that i can't understand your points, its that i get tired of people
that
stay on a list and complain about it, "man i should unsubscribe" or "you all
suck"
if you don't like it...

either get the offenders kicked off, and thereby reducing the list to 4
posts a week of efliers
or....
nevermind

> I would disagree with how interesting those long posts are.  
neat

> They aren't rave
> related, to be sure, but as someone who's done a lot of 
> research into the
> traditional uses of intoxicants, I found that first article 
> to be one of the
> better overviews of the subject I've read, and the second one 
> had a good bit
> on the Assassins.  To each his own.
i am not complaining about mw-rave-relatedness, i wasnt complaining at all,
but i will cos its fun
its proper net-technique to follow a few simple rules in email.
one: if you are gonna reply, PLEASE snip the non-relevant portions of the
replied to emails
two: reduce your to:/cc: lists to only those that are relevant
three: if it can be found elsewhere post a link(thats what they are for)
four: signature files should be delianted as such, usually with a few dashes
above them, and should not exceed 5 lines

reduce-reuse-recycle the internet 

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> I used to love those... but I think I overdosed on the buffalo wing
> things... Now they kinda make my stomach crawl (or something) maybe in
> another year I could eat them again.
i've heard tales of people od'ing from what those buffalo wings were cut
with
you should watch it

maybe try only one or two lines next time, because you KNOW you can handle
that.

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Invasion Presents: THE YEAR OF THE GOLDEN SNAKE
Saturday 01.27.01 Des Moines IA 9pm-6am 

The Chinese New Year is an important celebration all over the world. Legend 
tells of a village in China, thousands of years ago, that was ravaged 
by an evil monster one winter's eve. The following year the monster returned 
and again ravaged the village. Before it could happen a third time, 
the villagers devised a plan to scare the monster away. Red banners were hung 
everywhere; the color red has long been believed to protect against 
evil. Firecrackers, drums, and gongs were used to create loud noises to scare 
the beast away. The plan worked and celebrations lasted several days 
during which people visited with each other, exchanged gifts, danced, and ate 
tasty comestibles. During the New Year celebrations people do not 
fight or be mean to each other, as this would bring a bad, unlucky year.

Dan Deliverance - Integrated Recordings - KS - Techno
This east coast transplant is no stranger to the midwest.  
With over 5 years of experience, he's spun for such 
illustrious crews as D.C.'s Ultraworld, New Orleans' Freebass
Society & St. Louis' Superstars of Love.  Don't miss this
3 table set by the co-founder of Integrated Recordings 

K-Step - La Mierda Recordings / PhysixBAM@aol.com - IN - vocal dnb
This Babylon Collective DJ's first Iowa appearance is sure to show you
why he's Indy's most sought after Junglist. His amazing tricknology
and turntablism placed him in the Top 20 at last year's Chicago
regional DMC finals. He's wowed crowds in Detroit, Chicago,
Toronto, Ohio and soon... Des Moines

Chris Xanthus - RaveAlarm / XcientForce - Boston - Trance
Be prepared to be taking on that journey of your dreams.
His music will take you to that beautiful place.

Justone - On the Floor Productions - IA CTY - Hard Techno/Electro
The Alley Cat resident House DJ will be changing it up a bit
with a special set of mind twisting hard beats.

nnothing - Invasion / EQualeyez / TJL - DSM - Techno
Get ready to move to his sick techno beat.

SLaPiNFuNK - Invasion / Smokin' Rabbi UK - Boston/DSM - dnb
He'll give you some of those Nasty Ways.  Rewind!

KERNEL SCURRY - Invasion - DSM - Happy Hardcore
Fast, Hard, Happy Beats.  Like a Shooting Star.

digitalkiller - Invasion - DSM - Trance
This resident trancer will take you out and back.

Aaron Altar - Iowa City - Techno / Acid trance

SOUND N LIGHTS
Over 25000 watts of R&R JBL sound.  Screaming highs & bass lines
to shake up the floor.  A 2.4 Watt Lime Green YAG Laser with animated
text & graphics.  Mirror effects and laser projection fabric surrounding
the dance floor to showcase the biggest laser ever to hit Des Moines.

$13 presale
(location on info-line)
$13 w/ can at door
$15 w/ out at door
ARRIVAL
Official pre-party
01.24.01 @ Club Ibiza
in DSM.  Tickets
available here.

The INVASION
515.830.1893
invasioncrew@aol.com
Call/email before 01.25.01
for guest list
.;join ia-raves;. 
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<BR>Saturday 01.27.01 Des Moines IA 9pm-6am 
<BR>
<BR>The Chinese New Year is an important celebration all over the world. Legend <BR>tells of a village in China, thousands of years ago, that was ravaged 
<BR>by an evil monster one winter's eve. The following year the monster returned <BR>and again ravaged the village. Before it could happen a third time, 
<BR>the villagers devised a plan to scare the monster away. Red banners were hung <BR>everywhere; the color red has long been believed to protect against 
<BR>evil. Firecrackers, drums, and gongs were used to create loud noises to scare <BR>the beast away. The plan worked and celebrations lasted several days 
<BR>during which people visited with each other, exchanged gifts, danced, and ate <BR>tasty comestibles. During the New Year celebrations people do not 
<BR>fight or be mean to each other, as this would bring a bad, unlucky year.
<BR>
<BR>Dan Deliverance - Integrated Recordings - KS - Techno
<BR>This east coast transplant is no stranger to the midwest. &nbsp;
<BR>With over 5 years of experience, he's spun for such 
<BR>illustrious crews as D.C.'s Ultraworld, New Orleans' Freebass
<BR>Society &amp; St. Louis' Superstars of Love. &nbsp;Don't miss this
<BR>3 table set by the co-founder of Integrated Recordings 
<BR>
<BR>K-Step - La Mierda Recordings / PhysixBAM@aol.com - IN - vocal dnb
<BR>This Babylon Collective DJ's first Iowa appearance is sure to show you
<BR>why he's Indy's most sought after Junglist. His amazing tricknology
<BR>and turntablism placed him in the Top 20 at last year's Chicago
<BR>regional DMC finals. He's wowed crowds in Detroit, Chicago,
<BR>Toronto, Ohio and soon... Des Moines
<BR>
<BR>Chris Xanthus - RaveAlarm / XcientForce - Boston - Trance
<BR>Be prepared to be taking on that journey of your dreams.
<BR>His music will take you to that beautiful place.
<BR>
<BR>Justone - On the Floor Productions - IA CTY - Hard Techno/Electro
<BR>The Alley Cat resident House DJ will be changing it up a bit
<BR>with a special set of mind twisting hard beats.
<BR>
<BR>nnothing - Invasion / EQualeyez / TJL - DSM - Techno
<BR>Get ready to move to his sick techno beat.
<BR>
<BR>SLaPiNFuNK - Invasion / Smokin' Rabbi UK - Boston/DSM - dnb
<BR>He'll give you some of those Nasty Ways. &nbsp;Rewind!
<BR>
<BR>KERNEL SCURRY - Invasion - DSM - Happy Hardcore
<BR>Fast, Hard, Happy Beats. &nbsp;Like a Shooting Star.
<BR>
<BR>digitalkiller - Invasion - DSM - Trance
<BR>This resident trancer will take you out and back.
<BR>
<BR>Aaron Altar - Iowa City - Techno / Acid trance
<BR>
<BR>SOUND N LIGHTS
<BR>Over 25000 watts of R&amp;R JBL sound. &nbsp;Screaming highs &amp; bass lines
<BR>to shake up the floor. &nbsp;A 2.4 Watt Lime Green YAG Laser with animated
<BR>text &amp; graphics. &nbsp;Mirror effects and laser projection fabric surrounding
<BR>the dance floor to showcase the biggest laser ever to hit Des Moines.
<BR>
<BR>$13 presale
<BR>(location on info-line)
<BR>$13 w/ can at door
<BR>$15 w/ out at door
<BR>ARRIVAL
<BR>Official pre-party
<BR>01.24.01 @ Club Ibiza
<BR>in DSM. &nbsp;Tickets
<BR>available here.
<BR>
<BR>The INVASION
<BR>515.830.1893
<BR>invasioncrew@aol.com
<BR>Call/email before 01.25.01
<BR>for guest list
<BR>.;join ia-raves;. 
<BR>www.egroups.com/group/ia-raves
<BR>www.syquil.com</FONT></HTML>

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> nlong@Zethcon.com writes:
> 
> << In memory of Stevie T....gone but not forgotten. >>
> 
> i am still here.
CHRIST HAS BEEN REBORN!
ITS THE SECOND COMING OF STEVIE!

> you are clearly of the forbidden fruit of knowledge.
grapes?

> i pity your hell.
i love this man

> t
> 316
> 421
> 
> so tell me, does it irk you that the holy spirit still exists?
no.


m
523
911

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> i missed you so much it hurt
> 
> hurt about as much as 50 micah posts.
> 
> /me cant wait for the shitstorm to begin.
this is great news! 
now that im gonna be on the "not much traffic" time of mw-raves
and stevie can more than handle the daily dosage of annoyance
you all will be safe from a low-traffic always-relevant list!


the world makes these things happen

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**kAn I GEt A LaMmiEEE?! ** 
this is a joke because i refrained from joining the previous invasion lammie
discussion
 

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Invasion Presents: THE YEAR OF THE GOLDEN SNAKE 
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its true, i...love...you...guys...

/me cries uncontrollably.

the mail server test is sort of a side benefit, like reusing your grocery
bags or writing on the back of the envelopes that junk mail comes in.

-t

ps - i would be scared if mw-raves was only rave-related conversation.
what's your name? where are you from? got any rolls? who's on right now? who
are you again? want a sea breeze? PLUR! i got yer liquid.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [mw] THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA (part 1)


> this has been contested several times in the past, and it seems that a
> seemingly pointless post by a mw-regular is rave-related 
> solely in the fact
> that they are a mw-regular.
> 
> I dont care really, i use mw-raves to make sure my mail 
> server is still up.
> 
> /me prays for alcohol.

i think the thing we need to pay attention to is not whether the post is 
"rave related" but rather whether or not it is "mw-raves related"
and tony, you know yer just tryin to be coy, you love mw-raves and you know
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these are my favorite stevie t posts.  it'd be a wonderful world if there
was a stevie t effect, not unlike the slashdot effect, that crippled web
servers everywhere with his simple one line post of a URL.

that's power baby!
-the other white meat

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Subject: [mw] FW:  taking the plunge

i rarely ever forward stuff from other lists, but this struck me as mw-funny
so i'm making an exception.

forwarding...

-t

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [dance-drug-discussion] taking the plunge

Well I coul'd type out a ansewer (if your talking about plugging) but all 
the work is done for me, I got his from bluelight.

Plugging (Yes, that means E up yer bum)


ASHKE'S 'E UP YER BUM' FAQ, v.2

Yes, it works.

Yes, it hits you quicker, and much harder.

Yes, it's a little uncomfortable, burns slightly and feels 'weird' for 
usually around ten minutes.

No, it doesn't hurt anything 'down there'.
It works well because when you swallow it much of the MDMA gets filtered 
out. You make use of about 80%-90% of the chemical when you plug it, as 
opposed to 40%-60% swallowing and 70%-80% railing it.

The further you push it up there, the less it will bother you. If you are a 
wuss about it and don't push it up far enough, it will burn like a 
sonuvabitch.

If you crush it and put it in a capsule, it hurts less and hits quicker, but

use a small capsule with a slippery
                         surface.

If you plug it whole, and you dance and move around, the sting is more 
intense but it breaks up quicker and will not bother you as long as it might

if you sit still.

You may very well feel the need to 'go' afterwards. Don't. Not for at least 
forty minutes to an hour, if you can help it. If you're peaking, go ahead, 
it's been dissolved by that point.

If the roll is plugged, nausea is much less likely, and it doesn't matter if

you've had a big meal before hand.

No one will think you're gay, except stupid people who probably think you're

gay anyway.

A bit of additional information

There were sanitary concerns also brought up about ways of plugging without:

A: Hurting your rectum and B:Keeping your finger clean.

A: It was suggested in other threads that Vaseline or other lubricants be 
used to help minimize discomfort in this area when plugging

B: A cigarette collophane wrapper or something smooth and flexible can be 
wrapped over your finger when performing this for sanitary reasons.

Hope this shit helps(no pun intended)
Taken from www.bluelight.nu

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> ps - i would be scared if mw-raves was only
> rave-related conversation.
> what's your name? where are you from? got any rolls?
> who's on right now? who
> are you again? want a sea breeze? PLUR! i got yer
> liquid.

i'd love to stay and talk to you but i was just on my
way to find someone...see you later...

/me leaves, pretending to look for someone,
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damn, i forgot "can i have a dollar? i don't have any gas money to get home
and i live in (state that is 2 states away)".

-t

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> ps - i would be scared if mw-raves was only
> rave-related conversation.
> what's your name? where are you from? got any rolls?
> who's on right now? who
> are you again? want a sea breeze? PLUR! i got yer
> liquid.

i'd love to stay and talk to you but i was just on my
way to find someone...see you later...

/me leaves, pretending to look for someone,
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/me still wishes he had taken up the offer of magic johnson's shoes.
if i recall, the gentleman selling them only wanted seven dollars.

a chance like that comes up maybe once in a lifetime.

     -bill

>===== Original Message From Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> =====
>damn, i forgot "can i have a dollar? i don't have any gas money to get home
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my hospital is having a gala at the hyatt ballroom
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entertainment provided by: captain cardiac and the
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>back to the drawing board, bunyan head!!

because, after all, it's his responsibility to find stevie t a job.

why don't you get on your bike and start delivering chinese take-out, like 
PING on seinfeld!?

"i have green light!  you jaywalk!  i slap a suit on you!!"

mk
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Whats wrong stevie, did the local bar ban tea bagging
again, so you had to come back to good ol mw-raves?

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yeah 'cuz mw-raves will never ban tea bagging!

oh wait,
-t

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Whats wrong stevie, did the local bar ban tea bagging
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>i'd love to stay and talk to you but i was just on my
>way to find someone...see you later...

OMG LOL!

that's totally the rave move!!!!!!  hahahahahahahaaha.  good call pixie!

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At 05:25 AM 1/12/2001 -0500, Sun316east@aol.com wrote:
>from Genesis...
>
>  1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
>
>  2 And the earth was without form and void; and darkness
>  was upon the face of the deep.  and the spirit of God moved
>  upon the face of the waters.
>
>  3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
>
>  4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided
>  the light from darkness
>
>  5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called
>  Night.  And the evening and the morning were the first day.
>
>  the heaven brother seeks to save the world by preventing
>  an end time war and the earth brother seeks to correspond
>  to the word and initiate an end time war
>
>  this also corresponds to the 2 suns/2 messiah prophecy
>
>  there have been two major eclipses recently: the solar eclipse
>  on aug. 11, 1999 at 11:11am, which was the grand cross alignment
>  eclipse and just this past tuesday...the lunar eclipse, whose shadow
>  was cast over the Persian Gulf and where the USS Cole was
>  bombed...an obviously touchy area where the US may get involved
>  with the Middleeast crisis
>
>  also remember, the first sign of the end times is the white horse
>  of conquering
>
>  and the efforts recently of those in power have been to maintain
>  the word of revelation on to a course toward the end times by:
>  a) persistingly attempting to demonize me, by destroying my career,
>      trying to force me into crime, trying to peg me with everything
>      from espionage to sex fiend to questioning my sexual orientation
>      ...when i am the one trying so desperatly to change things by
>      bringing the truth into the light...it is the corrupt that deals in
>shade,
>      disinformation, and false accusations
>  b) persistantly demonizing foreign nations as an excuse to attack them
>  c) increasing corporate power to the dismay of the masses
>      who are already suffering from a recession and through
>      mergers and lay-offs
>  d) paving the road toward "the matrix"...more people confined
>      to their homes due to lack of funds and forced into the reality
>      the media chooses to spoon feed them, when it is nowhere
>      remotely close to their true reality
>  e) demonizing social contact: increase in sexual harrasement,
>      rape, anti-porn, pro same sex programming
>
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>You may very well feel the need to 'go' afterwards. Don't. Not for at least
>forty minutes to an hour, if you can help it. If you're peaking, go ahead,
>it's been dissolved by that point.

has anyone ever gone #2 whilst rolling?  i sure haven't.  i bet it's a 
creepy sensation.  i knew a kid that had to at a party once and he was 
weirded out because all the stalls were taken up by groups of people, 
presumably trading stock tips or bible verses.  anyway he complained loudly 
to me and my pal about it, and i think we probably called him a homo or 
something and went back to raving.  i never did find out if everything came 
out okay in the end.

mk
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>/me still wishes he had taken up the offer of magic johnson's shoes.
>if i recall, the gentleman selling them only wanted seven dollars.

here's a DECENT conspiracy theory, regarding showtime himself!!

http://rushmagazine.com/displayarticle.php?id=241

m magic k
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> something and went back to raving.  i never did find out if 
> everything came 
> out okay in the end.
if everything did come out okay, i sure as hell hope it was in the end and
not some 
other less desirable orafice


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actually jawsh! decker started this thread about shitting while rolling 3
or 4 years ago. i remember the guys were more vocal about how much they
enjoyed it, but then again, women lack a prostate. 

/j

> has anyone ever gone #2 whilst rolling?  i sure haven't.  i bet it's a 
> creepy sensation.  i knew a kid that had to at a party once and he was 
> weirded out because all the stalls were taken up by groups of people, 
> presumably trading stock tips or bible verses.  anyway he complained loudly 
> to me and my pal about it, and i think we probably called him a homo or 
> something and went back to raving.  i never did find out if everything came 
> out okay in the end.
> 
> mk
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>actually jawsh! decker started this thread about shitting while rolling 3
>or 4 years ago. i remember the guys were more vocal about how much they
>enjoyed it, but then again, women lack a prostate.

bahahhaahha JAWSH!  there's someone i'd totally forgotten about!!

mk
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> bahahhaahha JAWSH!  there's someone i'd totally forgotten about!!

last i heard, he moved to fargo.










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> > bahahhaahha JAWSH!  there's someone i'd totally forgotten about!!
> 
> last i heard, he moved to fargo.

ouch.

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> > last i heard, he moved to fargo.
> 
> ouch.

at least it ain't minot ;)

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> at least it ain't minot ;)

Y'all best not be steppin to the Magic City, yo.

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At 11:14 AM -0600 1/12/01, atomly wrote:

>>  at least it ain't minot ;)
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Christ, there are actually other people who know what a Minot is?  I 
thought the glue huffing would erase all memory of that place.
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I was born there.

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Subject: [mw] Indy event, Friday March 16th

Stellar Awareness & Teknomafia will be holding the release party for the YES 
Fest Documentary on Friday, March 16, 2001 in Indianapolis, IN.

We will be showing parts of the documentary on video screens as well as 
having some copies on hand for purchase.

The event will feature an international headliner as well as several other 
huge names to be released on the preflyer coming soon.

Thanks,
YES Collective
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=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

            ... digitalnoise ...
               ... update ...
                  ........
                     ..

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

In this update:

1> Neil Landstrom and The Surgeon at Limelight on Saturday

2> Kool-FM schedule for the weekend

3> Dave Hollands, Mike Dearborn, Woody McBride on Jan 25th

=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+

ARCHIVES! ARCHIVES! ARCHIVES!

New archives went up this week. Check out digitalnoise.com for the full
list.

>1> SAT JAN 13 - Tresor @ Limelight [techno, hard house]
>>> LIVE WEBCAST <<<
>>> 11pm to 4am EST, 8pm to 1am PST, 4am to 9am GMT

In our continued attempt to bring you more house and techno, we've got a
very special webcast lined up for you Saturday night. We'll be live yet
again from NYC's legendary Limelight Nightclub as Tresor Records from Berlin
makes a visit.

Part label, part club, Tresor has been putting together compilations and
original tracks since 1991. With an impressive roster of artists that
includes Joey Beltram, Surgeon, Cristian Vogel, Jeff Mills and man others,
Tresor is an important source of some of the most progressive sounds in
music.

Lucky for us, they're taking over the Limelight this Saturday and they've
given us the honor or broadcasting the sounds to you live.

-->> SURGEON (Tresor, Downwards Records; UK)
-->> NEIL LANDSTRUM (Tresor, Scandinavia; UK/NYC)
-->> JAMES RUSKIN (Tresor, Blueprint Records; UK)
-->> FUNCTION - live performance (Infrastructure; NYC)

The webcast will start at approximately 11pm EST and will run to at least
4am EST (NYC local time). To tune in, point your browser towards
http://www.digitalnoise.com or http://www.platform.net during the broadcast
hours. Don't forget to stop by the chat room to let us know how it sounds!

If you're in NYC, The Limelight is at 47 West 20th Street. You only have to
be 18 to get in, 21 to drink. Cover is $20. For more info call 212.807.7780


..::.::..:..:::..:::..:

>2> SAT JAN 13 & SUN JAN 14 - Kool-FM Midlands live from the UK [drum'n'bass]
>>> LIVE WEBCAST <<<

Yes - Kool-FM Midlands is back on the air. Look for some exciting news
regarding Kool-FM and digitalnoise in the comoing weeks.

Each weekend we feature select hours direct from the UK of Kool-FM 105.6
Midlands. This weekend's schedule is:
>> SAT
JB (Back2Basics)                        - 07am to 09am EST
DJ ESCAPE (2nd Strike)                  - 03pm to 05pm EST
>> SUN
CRAZY T (Kool FM)                       - 03pm to 05pm EST
(all times are Eastern Standard Time/NYC local time, GMT -5, PST +3)


..::.::..:..:::..:::..:

>3> THU JAN 25 - Infiltrate @ Limelight [house, techno]
>>> LIVE WEBCAST <<<
>>> WEBCAST IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED WAITING CLEARANCES <<
More info to follow soon, but I just wanted to give you some advance warning
about this special webcast live on Thursday, Jan 25th.

-->> WOODY McBRIDE (aka dj ESP)
-->> ANDREI MORANT (aka JACK MACKREL)
-->> MIKE DEARBORN
-->> DAVE HOLLANDS
-->> THE DEVER and ALAN SAX



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> 
> last i heard, he moved to fargo.
> 
people move TO fargo?

    -bill


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Subject: Re: [mw] webcast: Neil Landstrum, Surgeon

With all this talk of webcasts and the Limelight...I was wondering if
Neophytes Live PA from there on Feb 1st is going to be broadcast.

mmmmmm hardcore


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>===== Original Message From "William Bunyan" <wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com> =====

>people move TO fargo?
>
>    -bill


I've heard the exact same thing about Milwaukee :)

-Jen


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"Some persons can produce a state of trance and dissociation in 
themselves, or in others, with a decreasing need for strong and 
repeated emotional stresses, until it may become so much a 
conditioned pattern of brain activity that it occurs with only 
minor stresses and difficulties; for example, in the primitive 
religious context, at the renewed beat of a drum, or the 
screaming roar of the rhombos... If the trance is accompanied by 
a state of mental dissociation, the person experiencing it can 
be profoundly influenced in his subsequent thinking and 
behavior." 

If this isn't rave related I don't know what is. Those who call it
conspiracy make the point even more clear. This stuff affects everyone and
when you give a pavlov response like "it's a conspiracy", just because you
see MKULTRA in the title you are obviously a victim of mind control.

I knew I would catch flak for posting this, but I felt it should be
presented for those who aren't completely mind numbed yet to read.

Noble

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> "Some persons can produce a state of trance and dissociation in 
> themselves, or in others, with a decreasing need for strong and 
> repeated emotional stresses, until it may become so much a 
> conditioned pattern of brain activity that it occurs with only 
> minor stresses and difficulties; for example, in the primitive 
> religious context, at the renewed beat of a drum, or the 
> screaming roar of the rhombos... If the trance is accompanied by 
> a state of mental dissociation, the person experiencing it can 
> be profoundly influenced in his subsequent thinking and 
> behavior." 
this is utterly true
that house beat does inspire me to a state of rage.

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"Topping, Micah" wrote:

>
> well lets review what we've seen on mw-raves in the past
> you may be counting the population of mw-raves to be all few hundred members
> that say nothing and read/delete everything.
> they don't count in my little world
>
> the only people that count to me as mw-ravers are people that have posted at
> least once
> (you are ALL remembered)
> and the concensus from them seems to be that its fine, seeing as they are
> contributing
> to the hysteria
> and if you are the one complaining about what is wrong with the masses maybe
> you should
> consider yourself the issue.
> you can either change the nature of mw-raves or you can change how you react
> to it.
>

Ok, first off, I don't really have a problem with mw-raves.  Aight, only a
little problem.  For the most part, I like mw-raves in all its quirky
weirdness.  Makes my day at work much more interesting.  It's just those days
(and I'm thinking of Monday here) when the messages fly in at 60/hr full of
one-liners about the same tired old jokes and inside jokes between a few list
members that get to me.  I responded cause I didn't think it was fair for people
to jump on him for filling their mailboxes with annoying crap, when a lot of
those same people were filling my mailbox full of what I consider to be annoying
crap.  So to sum up, word on the street is that house music made Micah shoot DJ
Funk.  And Matt is a tiger in the sack.


Tom



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We will only overcome racism in this society, when skin color becomes as
relevant as eye color.

Noble

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Supremists


In the beginning...
 
 America was founded upon by a few basic principles:
 life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
 
 As I sit here in my apartment with my "invisible shackles", I
 fully realize what a complete lie that has become.
 
 They should have added, "if you are white" at the end
 of it.
 
 Mysteriously, I had done everything right...Perfect parents:
 father a doctor, mother a nurse, from a royal blood line of
 Chinese...Bible School at a Baptist Church, Catholic School
 for 2nd Grade, Protestant Prep School, College at Case 
 Western Reserve University, considered the Ivy League 
 School of Ohio...graduated with a double degree and a minor
 ...so how you may ask am i currently stuck with a part time
 job with barely enough to get by?...a slave to the white 
 supremist beast?...actually i count my lucky stars that i have
 not been incarcerated in the legal concentration camps that
 they have imprisoned most of the blacks in by forcing them 
 into crime by not hiring them entirely or paying them minimum
 wage with no benefits...although, i think they did finally bump
 up minumum wage here in Columbus by 50 cents if you stay
 with the job for 3 months...
 
 Early Oppresive Brain Washing Tactics...
 
 2nd Grade...I was told I was a "gook", although at the
 time I had no idea what it meant...apparently, it gave 
 them an excuse to beat up on me and spit at my 
 general direction...although I excelled later on in grade
 school, i was constantly berated and tortured for it...
 i was literally physically forced to pretend to be stupid
 
 Prep School...Even worse..."ponding" was the prefered
 method of abuse, followed by constant name calling, simply
 for being non-white...atleast blacks were respected for their
 sport endeavors...again, any grades above average resulted
 in secret tortures...
 
 College...was a sham for my parents to part with $100,000 in
 college tuition...the secret there was, whites were selected to
 become brothers in fraternities which had copies of old exams,
 which gave them an unfair advantage over the minorities, who 
 had to study twice as hard, resulting in minimal or no social lives
 whatsoever...i was lucky, in that i was selected to partake in an
 originally jewish fraternity...unfortunately, they did not have copies
 of old architecture or art history exams, which was my major...
 
 the Creator...one good thing from being a part of a fraternity,
 it gave me the organizational skills to help throw Cleveland's
 first undergound parties in the early 90's...the first party was
 $1/head to cover the keg...gear was free from being a part of
 WRUW...
 
 the Shepherd...i was the one who initially got the party kids 
 into the clubs by giving away free passes on WRUW...i was
 also the ones who gathered the kids for most of the initial
 raves by helping pass out all the flyers
 
 the Corporate Scam...unable to get a job in my field without 
 graduate school, i worked at MBNA America Bank...great job
 intially, i became their best rep within a month...worked there
 for three and a half years, yet they would not promote me,
 ironically, they would promote the prettier white folk even the
 ones who had not finished college...a "glass ceiling" i do 
 believe that is what it is called...although, i think MBNA may 
 have changed its ways by now.
 
 Introduction to the Ghetto life...after moving to Columbus from
 Cleveland...i knew very few people out here...one of the few
 people i knew was Jinx...Jinx became my roommate...unfortunately
 Jinx was black with no car and a kid...Jinx could not get a
 decent job while he lived with me...as a result i had to cover 5
 months rent and bills while he lived with me...he barely got by 
 by working a job that only gave him work a few days a week and
 by doing "other" things...unable to make my bills all the time
 due to Jinx killed my credit rating as well as my apartment credit
 rating, which is why to this day i haven't been able to move out
 of this apartment...
 
 Intentional Unemployment...due to some inane false accusations
 most probably from living with Jinx, i was intentionally unemployed
 for several periods of a time in hopes of driving me into the same
 life that Jinx had...luckily, my parents and sisters were able to help
 me out during my lowest points...
 
 Lord of Hosts...after Jinx, i also helped house a few other "homeless"
 kids: Rob Rothschild, Layla Stoneburner, and Rachel Gardner...
 i was also the one who gathered up all the Ohio promotors
 for the Family Affair 5 meeting (since mike and i were the ones who
 gathered up all the promotors for the first Family Affair meeting at
 Baker's Square Deli in Cleveland Heights in 1993)...Family Affair 5
 with attendance of 2000, was an all free party except for the price
 charged by the owner of the land...
 
 the Saviour and the Messenger...despite all this, i still delivered 
 the Oracle Papers to Lashutka pre Y2K, still deciphered Revelation 
 13 to prevent the Clinton Assasination Attempt, still delivered the 
 messages of the Bible Code, still delivered the message of the
 Presidential Curse, and still delivered the message of the NEO's
 all for free... 

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> crap.  So to sum up, word on the street is that house music made Micah
shoot DJ
> Funk.  And Matt is a tiger in the sack.

    I categorically deny all... er, wait... uhh... yeah. 'n stuff.

Matt Murphy
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go sit with stevie.

oh wait, he doesn't like you either.
pixie

p.s. you're cute (not in an attractive way, in an "i'm
getting bored with you awfully quickly" kinda way)


> I knew I would catch flak for posting this, but I
> felt it should be
> presented for those who aren't completely mind
> numbed yet to read.


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> So to sum up, word on the street is that house music 
> made Micah shoot DJ
> Funk.  And Matt is a tiger in the sack.
wow thats the telephone effect for you
truth of the matter is
DJ funk told me matt was a tiger in the sack, and you know thats my man and
all so i shot him
and matts goin down too.

just wait


snake in the sack

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I don't really think it's deep. I think it's pretty simple. Sometimes the
simplest things are the hardest to see.

Why can't there be peace in the middle East? Religion, tradition, dogma,
racism.

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> We will only overcome racism in this society, when skin color becomes as
> relevant as eye color.
> 
> Noble

whoa, that's deep.

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On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

+Why can't there be peace in the middle East? Religion, tradition, dogma,
+racism.

luckily we have rave related mailing lists to fix problems like this.

the bombs help, too.

chad

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stevie, i'm happy to introduce you to mr. noble long.

mr. long, meet my buddy stevie t.

commense blaming the government, whitey, and the drug dealers! (but only the
shady ones).

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Noble Long 
Subject: RE: [mw] THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA (part 1)

This stuff affects everyone and
when you give a pavlov response like "it's a conspiracy", just because you
see MKULTRA in the title you are obviously a victim of mind control.

I knew I would catch flak for posting this, but I felt it should be
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 j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com writes:
 
 << Whats wrong stevie, did the local bar ban tea bagging
  again, so you had to come back to good ol mw-raves? >>
 
 sorry, gotti, hate to dissapoint, but i still don't go your
 direction.
 
 but if you persist on defaming the gotti name, the real
 jon gotti has plenty of buds in jail that might address
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the blame lies within all of us, for we all are the government, whitey, and
drug dealers.

-----Original Message-----
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stevie, i'm happy to introduce you to mr. noble long.

mr. long, meet my buddy stevie t.

commense blaming the government, whitey, and the drug dealers! (but only the
shady ones).

-t

-----Original Message-----
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This stuff affects everyone and
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see MKULTRA in the title you are obviously a victim of mind control.

I knew I would catch flak for posting this, but I felt it should be
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I wonder if they'll have a part in the documenatary about the promoters
stealing water.


YesFest@aol.com wrote:

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> Fest Documentary on Friday, March 16, 2001 in Indianapolis, IN.
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> We will only overcome racism in this society, when skin color becomes as
> relevant as eye color.
> 
> Noble

whoa, that's deep.


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Subject: [mw] poser gotti still tryin to convert dudes to his queerdom

j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com writes:

<< Whats wrong stevie, did the local bar ban tea bagging
 again, so you had to come back to good ol mw-raves? >>

sorry, gotti, hate to dissapoint, but i still don't go your
direction.

but if you persist on defaming the gotti name, the real
jon gotti has plenty of buds in jail that might address
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yeah only blondes with blue eyes should be left alive...
wait, thats been done

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>the blame lies within all of us, for we all are the government, whitey, and
>drug dealers.

i am tiger woods.

mktw
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In a message dated 1/12/01 8:59:24 PM !!!First Boot!!!, grant@techgallery.com 
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> I wonder if they'll have a part in the documenatary about the promoters
>  stealing water.

Or about the vendors that blatantly sold water
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>We will only overcome racism in this society, when skin color becomes as
>relevant as eye color.

/me points to the fairly successful coloured-contacts industry.

mk, proud to be black y'all
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 > last i heard, he moved to fargo.

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sheisty.

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Subject: [mw] New d 'n' b Track info!!

Hell yeah.  Thanks to everyone that has listened to the new track ("Myoptic 
Camouflage") so far.  It now sits at #3 on the mp3.com d'n'b charts!  I'd 
love to bump the guy from number one.  He's been there for a while.  Well, 
if you haven't heard it yet..you're missing out!  It's sick as hell.

Here's the link:

"Myoptic Camouflage"

http;://www.mp3.com/cause_n_effect


Thanks to everyone too for your feedback.  Because of you guys I feel i'm 
getting better.  You can probably see/hear the progression if you listen to 
them all from top to bottom (latest to first).

SO CHECK IT OUT!!

Thanks again,

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everyone on the screeching weasel message board is saying that IT is a 
floating scooter.

mk
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Subject: [mw] 'Rave' party organizers indicted under federal drug law

'Rave' party organizers indicted under federal drug law
January 12, 2001
Web posted at: 3:26 p.m. EST (2026 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- The U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District
of Louisiana and the Drug Enforcement Administration announced the
indictment Friday of three "rave" party organizers, marking the first time
the federal "crack house" law has been used for prosecuting organizers of
such events.

"Raves" are large dance parties often associated with the drug MDMA,
commonly called ecstasy.

The indictments were returned against Robert J. Brunet and James D.
Estobinal of Louisiana and Brian J. Brunett of Tampa. Florida as a result of
"Operation Rave Review," a joint investigation conducted the DEA and the New
Orleans Police Department.

The 1986 law, passed to combat crack cocaine, was designed to punish the
owners or operators of houses used for the manufacture, storage,
distribution or use of illegal drugs. Violators face a maximum penalty 20
years on prison and a $500,000 fine.

Users of ecstasy often describe a feeling of euphoria. Researchers have
reported the drug can cause brain damage by destroying neurons that produce
the neurotransmitter serotonin, responsible for controlling mood, sleep,
pain, sexual activity and violent behavior.

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> everyone on the screeching weasel message board is saying that IT is a 
> floating scooter.

you mean one of these, only flying? 

www.ghettoscooter.com

personally, i think it's a hover bike.


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Subject: [mw] Re: [nyc-raves] 'Rave' party organizers indicted under federal drug law

See, this what I mean!!!!


>From: "SoNiK" <tubui@vt.edu>
>To: "Bostonparties" <bostonparties@egroups.com>,   "Boston-Raves" 
><boston-raves@ravedata.com>,   "Brokenbeats" <brokenbeats@egroups.com>,   
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>Subject: [nyc-raves] 'Rave' party organizers indicted under federal drug 
>law
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:10:13 -0500
>
>'Rave' party organizers indicted under federal drug law
>January 12, 2001
>Web posted at: 3:26 p.m. EST (2026 GMT)
>
>NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- The U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District
>of Louisiana and the Drug Enforcement Administration announced the
>indictment Friday of three "rave" party organizers, marking the first time
>the federal "crack house" law has been used for prosecuting organizers of
>such events.
>
>"Raves" are large dance parties often associated with the drug MDMA,
>commonly called ecstasy.
>
>The indictments were returned against Robert J. Brunet and James D.
>Estobinal of Louisiana and Brian J. Brunett of Tampa. Florida as a result 
>of
>"Operation Rave Review," a joint investigation conducted the DEA and the 
>New
>Orleans Police Department.
>
>The 1986 law, passed to combat crack cocaine, was designed to punish the
>owners or operators of houses used for the manufacture, storage,
>distribution or use of illegal drugs. Violators face a maximum penalty 20
>years on prison and a $500,000 fine.
>
>Users of ecstasy often describe a feeling of euphoria. Researchers have
>reported the drug can cause brain damage by destroying neurons that produce
>the neurotransmitter serotonin, responsible for controlling mood, sleep,
>pain, sexual activity and violent behavior.
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/01/12/operation.rave/index.html
>
>
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In a message dated 1/12/01 5:25:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
HouseBabylon@aol.com writes:

<< Or about the vendors that blatantly sold water
 when repeatedly asked not to..... that's always 
 a funny one, too. >>


Yeah, this one is especially funny... since I was in this tent for the most 
part.. and didnt see any water being *sold* after they were told not to...  
just given out.

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>  
>  sorry, gotti, hate to dissapoint, but i still don't
> go your
>  direction.
And that would be east, oops no, I'm more facing
Southwest, my bad.
>  
>  but if you persist on defaming the gotti name, the
> real
>  jon gotti has plenty of buds in jail that might
> address
>  your queer needs. 
I actually heard they are more into skinny asian ass
little man
I mean boy

Stevie T, gay savior to e-tards everywhere.

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TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/12/01 5:25:13 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> HouseBabylon@aol.com writes:
>
> << Or about the vendors that blatantly sold water
>  when repeatedly asked not to..... that's always
>  a funny one, too. >>
>
> Yeah, this one is especially funny... since I was in this tent for the most
> part.. and didnt see any water being *sold* after they were told not to...
> just given out.

funny.  i was about to bring up this same exact point.  The people of said
tent were asked not to sell water anymore.  People of said tent quit selling
water when asked to by **the promoters**. flunkies sent by the promoter prior
to that were ignored, if i recall correctly. Water was still stolen from
people of said tent by *the promoters*.  Go figure.


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michael knight wrote:

> everyone on the screeching weasel message board is saying that IT is a
> floating scooter.

I hope IT doesn't look as idiotic as those sharper image scooter things.



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of course Nostradamus could predict the future, like da Vinci, he was a
member of the priory of Sion (a high order of the illuminati) the same group
who wrote the Bible (especially revelations). All the illuminati has done is
make the predictions of Nostradamus and the book of Revelations come to
pass, and bingo you have people saying "wow, i can't believe all these
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in their religion and dogma (forms of control), which is the ultimate plan.

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Noble Long wrote:

> of course Nostradamus could predict the future, like da Vinci, he was a
> member of the priory of Sion (a high order of the illuminati) the same group
> who wrote the Bible (especially revelations). All the illuminati has done is
> make the predictions of Nostradamus and the book of Revelations come to
> pass, and bingo you have people saying "wow, i can't believe all these
> predictions are coming to pass". Then those same people get more entrenched
> in their religion and dogma (forms of control), which is the ultimate plan.

Damnit!

Who keeps leaking this stuff?

I swear... you try to have a worldwide conspiracy across
millennia and nobody can keep their mouths shut!



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>From: Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com>
>To: "'Reborn3162001@aol.com'" <Reborn3162001@aol.com>, 
>"'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [mw] Fwd: more eerie nostradamus...must read...very important 
>...
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:04:54 -0600
>
>of course Nostradamus could predict the future, like da Vinci, he was a
>member of the priory of Sion (a high order of the illuminati) the same 
>group
>who wrote the Bible (especially revelations). All the illuminati has done 
>is
>make the predictions of Nostradamus and the book of Revelations come to
>pass, and bingo you have people saying "wow, i can't believe all these
>predictions are coming to pass". Then those same people get more entrenched
>in their religion and dogma (forms of control), which is the ultimate plan.
>


I do not understand your words.  Please rearrange them into a comprehendable 
form.  Also, it would be helpful to me if you define your words "Sion", 
"illuminati" and "bingo" in the way that you use them here.

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Adam Meadows wrote:

> >From: Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com>
> >To: "'Reborn3162001@aol.com'" <Reborn3162001@aol.com>,
> >"'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: [mw] Fwd: more eerie nostradamus...must read...very important
> >...
> >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:04:54 -0600
> >
> >of course Nostradamus could predict the future, like da Vinci, he was a
> >member of the priory of Sion (a high order of the illuminati) the same
> >group
> >who wrote the Bible (especially revelations). All the illuminati has done
> >is
> >make the predictions of Nostradamus and the book of Revelations come to
> >pass, and bingo you have people saying "wow, i can't believe all these
> >predictions are coming to pass". Then those same people get more entrenched
> >in their religion and dogma (forms of control), which is the ultimate plan.
> >
>
> I do not understand your words.  Please rearrange them into a comprehendable
> form.  Also, it would be helpful to me if you define your words "Sion",
> "illuminati" and "bingo" in the way that you use them here.
>
> Adam

You obviously have not been enlightened yet.


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enlightenment? what is enlightenment? the information is out there, it
always has been.

this is a good place to start-

http://www.ufon.org/html/david_icke_video.html

but be warned, once you watch this, you can't just forget the information,
and it will be hard to live the "ignorance is bliss" lifestyle ever again.

Nature doesn't lie. Man is part of nature. Therefore man cannot lie because
the true nature of man always comes out.

onelove.
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Instructions for Life in the new millennium from the Dalai Lama: 

1. Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great
risk.

2. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.

3. Follow the three Rs: Respect for self, respect for others and
responsibility for all your actions.

4. Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful stroke
of luck.

5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.

6. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.

7. When you realise you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to correct
it.

8. Spend some time alone every day.

9. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.

10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.

11. Live a good, honourable life. Then when you get older and think back,
you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.

12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation for your life.

13. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with the current situation.
Don't bring up the past.

14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieveimmortality.

15. Be gentle with the earth.

16. Once a year, go some place you've never been before.

17. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for each
other exceeds your need for each other.

18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.

19. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.

Do not keep this message. The mantra must leave your hands within 96 hours.

You will get a very pleasant surprise (this is true even if you are not
superstitious) if you send it to:

0-4 people: Your life will improve slightly. 
5-9 people: Your life will improve to your liking. 
9-14 people: You will have at least 5 surprises in the next 3 weeks. 
15 people and above: Your life will improve drastically and everything you
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In a message dated 1/12/01 4:00:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< I wonder if they'll have a part in the documenatary about the promoters
 stealing water.
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yeah! hahahahahaha....
or the only tent producing music worth hearing!! ((( SUBSONIK )))
quick..it's raining!! hide the equipment ;)
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i'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the Dalai Lama did NOT say all of this, but
I'm almost positive he doesn't send endorse spammy chain-letters.


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Subject: Re: [mw] bottled water 

document this...

we never stole any water.

we brought our own.

we spent a lot on our tent and the weekend in general so we sold about 15 
bottles of it for $1 each. we were told a few times to stop, finally we did, 
but we started giving it away for free.  that really pissed them off, so 
they had security and a cop take if from us.

but that's okay, we got a lot of emails and calls from people telling us 
that our sound tent was the best thing about the weekend.  we rocked out all 
weekend and met a lot of cool people.

it's too bad they had to be so mean and rude over bottled water.

plur and ufo's.

-r

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>Subject: Re: [mw] Indy event, Friday March 16th
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:53:05 EST
>
>In a message dated 1/12/01 4:00:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>grant@techgallery.com writes:
>
><< I wonder if they'll have a part in the documenatary about the promoters
>  stealing water.
>   >>
>
>yeah! hahahahahaha....
>or the only tent producing music worth hearing!! ((( SUBSONIK )))
>quick..it's raining!! hide the equipment ;)
>if it weren't for all of you, the 'Arrest Fest' would have been a huge
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Subject: Re: [mw] bottled water 

document this...

we never stole any water.

we brought our own.

we spent a lot on our tent and the weekend in general so we sold about 15 
bottles of it for $1 each. we were told a few times to stop, finally we did, 
but we started giving it away for free.  that really pissed them off, so 
they had security and a cop take if from us.

but that's okay, we got a lot of emails and calls from people telling us 
that our sound tent was the best thing about the weekend.  we rocked out all 
weekend and met a lot of cool people.

it's too bad they had to be so mean and rude over bottled water.

plur and ufo's.

-r

>From: Izzitec@aol.com
>To: grant@techgallery.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Indy event, Friday March 16th
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:53:05 EST
>
>In a message dated 1/12/01 4:00:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>grant@techgallery.com writes:
>
><< I wonder if they'll have a part in the documenatary about the promoters
>  stealing water.
>   >>
>
>yeah! hahahahahaha....
>or the only tent producing music worth hearing!! ((( SUBSONIK )))
>quick..it's raining!! hide the equipment ;)
>if it weren't for all of you, the 'Arrest Fest' would have been a huge
>disappointment..
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>dollar, or you're hiking a hill unhappily'----
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*releases received from 1.06.01 - 1.12.01 (great titles coming in next =
week . . . )
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      Lovin Spoonful Greatest Hits buddha=20
    =20
      Boom Bip and Doseone =20
     Circle
     Mush
     Avant Hip-Hop=20
      X-ian the X-man                     My Love For You
     Mix Cd
     House
    =20
      DJ Huda Hudia Drop the bass RMX Kaleidoscope Breakbeat=20
      Lick n' Load Blow Ya Mind Jive Electro Breakbeat=20
      Ben Wa Elektro-Krazy Ben Wa Breakbeat=20
      Vigi and Flip Freak Frequency Unbalanced TCR Breakbeat=20
      Jennifer Lopez Love Don't Cost a Thing Sony Club=20
      Butchwax Butt Ugly Breaks Dirt Style DJ Tool / Classic Breaks=20
      Wax Fondler Blackmarket Breaks Death Style DJ Tool / Classic =
Breaks=20
      Various Afro Funk Explosion Explosive DJ Tool / Classic Breaks=20
      Jazz & Bass Sessions 3 various formation Downtempo=20
      UK Apachi nuttah vip ebony Drum & Bass=20
      Motopsyco vs. Strata simple thoughts ism'assive Drum & Bass=20
      Ryme Tyme & Nasis Abyss No u- turn Drum & Bass=20
      renegade terrorist moving shadow Drum & Bass=20
      Dillinja presents Cybotron I wanna know valve Drum & Bass=20
      Psychosis Free Fall EP trouble on vinyl Drum & Bass=20
      Alpha Omega New Wave EP reinforced Drum & Bass=20
      Twisted Individual Twisted Individutron formation Drum & Bass=20
      Aftermath essential rewindz renegade Drum & Bass=20
      the kraft the trend charge Drum & Bass=20
      Carlito & DJ Addiction supergrass defunked Drum & Bass=20
      Chris Su Angel Subscope Drum & Bass=20
      Polar Skydiver Certificate 18 Drum & Bass=20
      Pariah Sensory Overload Nu Directions Drum & Bass=20
      Hive Ultrasonic Sound (Dillinja Remix) Vortex Drum & Bass=20
      Richard Humpty Vision Everybody's Free Tommy Boy Hard House=20
      Ludacris Catch Up Def Jam Hip-Hop=20
      dr.dre still d.r.e. interscope Hip-Hop=20
      musiq just friends def jam Hip-Hop=20
      Memphis Bleek Is That Your Chick Roc a Fella Hip-Hop=20
      Infesticons Shampoo Theme Ozone Hip-Hop=20
      Tunnelvison Ms. Dupont roots and herbs House=20
      Black Shells The anthem azuli House=20
      Haol, Hipp-e & Tony 6400 crew yoshitoshi House=20
      Various Bare Essentials Naked House=20
      O.T. Quartet Hold that sucker down (2000RMX) champion Prog House=20
      SAF mon amour sunrise Prog House=20
      One Step Beyond We Beg Your Pardon America One Step Beyond Prog =
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      monifah i can tell universal R&B=20
      Sunscreem Coda acetate Tech House=20
      Firefly supernatural kickin Tech House=20
      Sven Vath My Name is Barbarella Club Culture Tech House=20
      chris jackson sparatic
     catalyst Techno=20
      Theorem vs. Stewart Walker Intervals minus Techno=20
      Deadbeat tesla revolver Techno=20
      Daniel Lui Big Smoke Nights Vol. 2 chair Techno=20
      Sunaj Assassins Data Fields cynosure Techno=20
      adam marshall stare round table Techno=20
      Dee Jay Hyde just a moment white Techno=20
      Anorak Curva Galactica Absense Techno=20
      Mauro Picotto Komodo-Nick Sentience RMX VC Trance=20
      U2 New Year's Day=20
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      Main Element
     Hedfuk silver planet Trance=20
      sunbeam one minute in heaven kontor Trance=20
      Oliver Lieb Lightspeed data Trance=20
      flange & swain
     Need you plastic fantastic trance=20
      Doof It's about time twisted Trance=20
      Opera Trance Spente le stelle Pt. 1 radikal Trance=20
      additive sampler part 1 Additive Trance=20
      additive sampler part 2 additive Trance=20
      Phil Collins In the Air Tonight (2000 Airheads RMX) white Trance=20
      sugarglider bee sting smile adsr Trance=20
      ninth planet the rocket output Trance=20
      Gary B. pipesmoker freezing point Trance=20
      Fragma feat. Maria Rubia Everytime You Need Me white Trance=20
      Ashtrax Helsinki (Remixes) Deviant Trance=20
      Silvio Ecomo Standing Hooj Choons Trance=20
      Future Breeze Smile Nebula Trance=20
      Rank 1 Airwave Tommy Boy Trance=20
      K90 Into the Future Bitch Trance=20


call, email or stop in for availability of releases. =20

we do system and lighting rentals for medium to small sized events.  for =
more info. call 513.396.7233.

hotwax
5 east 8th st.
cov, ky 41011
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    <TD>Elektro-Krazy</TD>
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    <TD>Breakbeat</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Vigi and Flip</TD>
    <TD>Freak Frequency Unbalanced</TD>
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    <TD>Breakbeat</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Jennifer Lopez</TD>
    <TD>Love Don't Cost a Thing</TD>
    <TD>Sony</TD>
    <TD>Club</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Wax Fondler</TD>
    <TD>Blackmarket Breaks</TD>
    <TD>Death Style</TD>
    <TD>DJ Tool / Classic Breaks</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Various</TD>
    <TD>Afro Funk Explosion</TD>
    <TD>Explosive</TD>
    <TD>DJ Tool / Classic Breaks</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Jazz &amp; Bass Sessions 3</TD>
    <TD>various</TD>
    <TD>formation</TD>
    <TD>Downtempo</TD></TR>
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    <TD>UK Apachi</TD>
    <TD>nuttah vip</TD>
    <TD>ebony</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Motopsyco vs. Strata</TD>
    <TD>simple thoughts</TD>
    <TD>ism'assive</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Ryme Tyme &amp; Nasis</TD>
    <TD>Abyss</TD>
    <TD>No u- turn</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>renegade</TD>
    <TD>terrorist</TD>
    <TD>moving shadow</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Dillinja presents Cybotron</TD>
    <TD>I wanna know</TD>
    <TD>valve</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Psychosis</TD>
    <TD>Free Fall EP</TD>
    <TD>trouble on vinyl</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Alpha Omega</TD>
    <TD>New Wave EP</TD>
    <TD>reinforced</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Twisted Individual</TD>
    <TD>Twisted Individutron</TD>
    <TD>formation</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Aftermath</TD>
    <TD>essential rewindz</TD>
    <TD>renegade</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>the kraft</TD>
    <TD>the trend</TD>
    <TD>charge</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Carlito &amp; DJ Addiction</TD>
    <TD>supergrass</TD>
    <TD>defunked</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Chris Su</TD>
    <TD>Angel</TD>
    <TD>Subscope</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Polar</TD>
    <TD>Skydiver</TD>
    <TD>Certificate 18</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Pariah</TD>
    <TD>Sensory Overload</TD>
    <TD>Nu Directions</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Hive</TD>
    <TD>Ultrasonic Sound (Dillinja Remix)</TD>
    <TD>Vortex</TD>
    <TD>Drum &amp; Bass</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Richard Humpty Vision</TD>
    <TD>Everybody's Free</TD>
    <TD>Tommy Boy</TD>
    <TD>Hard House</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Ludacris</TD>
    <TD>Catch Up</TD>
    <TD>Def Jam</TD>
    <TD>Hip-Hop</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>dr.dre</TD>
    <TD>still d.r.e.</TD>
    <TD>interscope</TD>
    <TD>Hip-Hop</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>musiq</TD>
    <TD>just friends</TD>
    <TD>def jam</TD>
    <TD>Hip-Hop</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Memphis Bleek</TD>
    <TD>Is That Your Chick</TD>
    <TD>Roc a Fella</TD>
    <TD>Hip-Hop</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Infesticons</TD>
    <TD>Shampoo Theme</TD>
    <TD>Ozone</TD>
    <TD>Hip-Hop</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Tunnelvison</TD>
    <TD>Ms. Dupont</TD>
    <TD>roots and herbs</TD>
    <TD>House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Black Shells</TD>
    <TD>The anthem</TD>
    <TD>azuli</TD>
    <TD>House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Haol, Hipp-e &amp; Tony</TD>
    <TD>6400 crew</TD>
    <TD>yoshitoshi</TD>
    <TD>House</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Various</TD>
    <TD>Bare Essentials</TD>
    <TD>Naked</TD>
    <TD>House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>O.T. Quartet</TD>
    <TD>Hold that sucker down (2000RMX)</TD>
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    <TD>Prog House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>SAF</TD>
    <TD>mon amour</TD>
    <TD>sunrise</TD>
    <TD>Prog House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>One Step Beyond</TD>
    <TD>We Beg Your Pardon America</TD>
    <TD>One Step Beyond</TD>
    <TD>Prog House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>i can tell</TD>
    <TD>universal</TD>
    <TD>R&amp;B</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Coda</TD>
    <TD>acetate</TD>
    <TD>Tech House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Firefly</TD>
    <TD>supernatural</TD>
    <TD>kickin</TD>
    <TD>Tech House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Sven Vath</TD>
    <TD>My Name is Barbarella</TD>
    <TD>Club Culture</TD>
    <TD>Tech House</TD></TR>
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    <TD>chris jackson</TD>
    <TD>sparatic<BR></TD>
    <TD>catalyst</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Theorem vs. Stewart Walker</TD>
    <TD>Intervals</TD>
    <TD>minus</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Deadbeat</TD>
    <TD>tesla</TD>
    <TD>revolver</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Daniel Lui</TD>
    <TD>Big Smoke Nights Vol. 2</TD>
    <TD>chair</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Sunaj Assassins</TD>
    <TD>Data Fields</TD>
    <TD>cynosure</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>adam marshall</TD>
    <TD>stare</TD>
    <TD>round table</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Dee Jay Hyde</TD>
    <TD>just a moment</TD>
    <TD>white</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Anorak</TD>
    <TD>Curva Galactica</TD>
    <TD>Absense</TD>
    <TD>Techno</TD></TR>
  <TR>
    <TD>Mauro Picotto</TD>
    <TD>Komodo-Nick Sentience RMX</TD>
    <TD>VC</TD>
    <TD>Trance</TD></TR>
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    <TD>U2</TD>
    <TD>New Year's Day</TD>
    <TD><BR></TD>
    <TD>Trance</TD></TR>
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    <TD>Main Element<BR></TD>
    <TD>Hedfuk</TD>
    <TD>silver planet</TD>
    <TD>Trance</TD></TR>
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Subject: [mw] WHITE RABBITS VS. STUNT ROCK RELEASE

ANNOUNCING THE RELEASE OF:

the urbana youth outreach (white rabbits) vs. stunt rock
"were not assholes, were just smarter than you"
SPLIT CD
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super emotional terror breaks abound with idm and stuff.



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================stunt rock=================
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>people move TO fargo?

eh, it's not *that* bad here.  c'mon, where else can you claim the snowpile 
from the parking lot to be the highest point above sea level in your area?
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> I don't really think it's deep. I think it's pretty simple. 
uhh monsieur noble.
i think that is what you would refer to as "sarcasm"
unless chris meant something else by deep...
to use it in a sentence "that statement was deeply immersed in shit"

see?


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> whoa, that's deep.
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Subject: [mw] sound...

27 : jan : 2001

One of the *crucial* elements of a sonic memory is, without a doubt, the way
the artists and audiences interact...

...sound.

Most events devote a limited amount of funds to different aspects of the
production...

...limited.

There is the belief that turbosound is the best, or one of the best.
However, in order for two DJ's to send any kind of memorable Signal, to
shape an ever lasting experience, you need to find the absolute best
available...

http://www.dbaudio.com

...perfection.

http://www.8thdaysound.com

...total master engineering...

...sound.

27 : jan : 2001

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

search for "djdarwin" on napster
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Subject: [mw] friday jan.19th taboo  bloomington,in

friday jan. 19th
muzique boutique and mystery mixx present the first installment of TABOO.
this evetn will be at ground zero night club  213n.walnut

featuring
cyberjive/muziuqe boutique/new orleans.........house
slater hogan/muzique boutique/indy......deep house
leperboy/bullwinkles/bloomington......trance

all three dj's will be playing extended 2 hour sets.
first 100 people will receive a free leperboy mix cd.
doors open at 10pm -4am
$10 at the door or  $5 with an iu id
call 317.592.9536 for info and directions or go to 
www.muziqueboutique.com

up coming schedule
 
feb.2nd   aaron ochoa/genius insanity,pushpac/ nashville/ house
              slater hogan/genius insanity,muzique boutique/indy/deep house
              matt porter/teknomafia/indy/disco house
              neal blue/live pa  bloomington

feb.16th
              stan doublin/muzique boutique/st.louis/ progressive house
               slater hogan/m.b., g.i./indy/deep house

march 2nd  tommie sunshine/muzique boutique,dust traxx/chicago/ electro,techno
                  matt porter/teknomafia/indy/disco house
                  michael anthony/ft.wayne/ techno,trance

march 23rd         
                    phil decker/muzique boutique/st.louis/deep house
                    slater hogan/muzique boutique/indy/deep house

march 30th   
                     dj booth/kansas city/   house, speed garage
                     slater hogan/m.b,g.i./indy/deep house


                

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i soooo want to go... people still down for a MW outing? where should i get
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> -----Original Message-----
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> i'm definitely down... feb 13, right?
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> -t
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> speaking of, anyone down for seeing the people's bank of hank (rollins)
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i  picked up tickets for myself already on ticketmaster, and i guess we can
work out the rest once feb 13th is a little closer - its a month away, after
all...

-t

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i soooo want to go... people still down for a MW outing? where should i get
tickets?
>
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http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/01/12/operation.rave/index.html


"THATS THE BIGGETS FRY I'VE EVER SEEN" ANDY @ NATIONAL '01

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||Dear Ted
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||What was that for???
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||-Physix

A multitude of reasons. The most obvious would be that mail to you (as a self-appointed
representative of all things hoosier-like) bounced. I think it important that the few persons who
have not already dismissed all things club-headed as either; a) a promoter playing an elaborate
joke on a small midwestern city, or b) a city playing a blatant joke on a small midwestern
promoter be warned as to the doings of one DJ Bob-a-Dob, Lord High Epopt of the Cincinnati hi-nrg
dance music "scene". However, since this seems to have either eluded you or simply been
over-looked, perhaps a more detailed explanation is in order.

I think Indiana is funny. Funny as in peculiar, which of course often results in the more common
definition as well. And sometimes not.. The first time I travelled through Indiana I saw burning
crosses on the side of the road to celebrate the recently accepted MLK, Jr. day.. A holiday with
more meaning to me than one might expect given my white male status; when Arizona pulled some
trickery in the voting booth (fancy that!) to keep MLK day from passing, many of my friends and I
participated in marches, rallies, and other such non-violent (judging from the response) actions
found threatening by the jaded ignorant population of the state. Perhaps I'm drawing a parallel
here? No, that's just a mildly pornographic doodle. Never mind. Anyhow, I'd never seen those
before, and I grew up in Texas where an outsider might expect such things as a matter of course.
Then again, the Klan likes to set up a cross in our downtown here in Cinti. Neither of these are
what I'd consider funny, in either sense. They are, however, worth knowing about. Is that any
clearer? No, I don't suppose it is.

 What I do consider funny is the sort of insulated, hipper-than-thou undercurrent I detect wafting
across the border from parts due West. I also find that humor is a very effective tool in
combating such attitudes. Is this making more sense yet? Whatever could I be alluding to? 

Well, maybe not. Then again, do I have any reason to try and explain one out of the thousand other
meaningless posts which you chose to ignore? And if, somehow, I offered an explanation that was
both concise and accurate, would it be more acceptable to you? Is your acceptance important to me?
Was that a rhetorical question? Hmmm.

Perhaps we should move on.



                                                                 -tjw







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does anyone, with the exception of government employees, actually get 
monday off from work?

mk, no L

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>this is a good place to start-
>
>http://www.ufon.org/html/david_icke_video.html

but this is an even better place to start-

http://www.ilovebacon.com

down for the struggle,
mk

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In a message dated 1/12/01 8:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
subsonik_pro@hotmail.com writes:

<< but that's okay, we got a lot of emails and calls from people telling us 
 that our sound tent was the best thing about the weekend.  we rocked out all 
 weekend and met a lot of cool people.
 
Isn't that the truth!! 

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Subject: [mw] want to be a star(belly)?


Anyone want to be a star(belly)?

remix one of the tracks on "unexpectedly delayed EP" - you'll find them all
available for download at

http://www.mp3.com/grantstevensstar

Do whatever you want with it, as few or as many original song elements as
you like.  EVERY
remix will be featured on the "unexpectedly played" MP3 station, and
listeners will vote
on their favorite remix.  The top 10 will be guaranteed inclusion in the
starbelly records 
release "unexpectedly remixed", the rest of the tracks on "unexpectedly
remixed" will be
grant stevens favorite remixes.  The CD will be released and promoted in
the hometown of
everyone included on the CD.  So start rockin' like dokken!

if interested please reply through the contact section of 

http://www.mp3.com/grantstevensstar

with the name of the track(s) you'd like to remix and a little about
yourself.

thanks-
grant stevens
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Subject: RE: [mw] THE PRE-HISTORY OF MKULTRA (part 1)

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:47:19 -0600, Noble Long wrote:


>I knew I would catch flak for posting this, but I felt it should be
>presented for those who aren't completely mind numbed yet to read.
>


Dude...it WAS a cool post.  But way too long for
a mailing list.  A link would have been fine.

	- Joe


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Subject: Re: [mw] sound...

ravers only understand this sort of promotion angle when richie hawtin does it.

mk

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Subject: [mw] Mk-Ultra

I thought it would be nice if someone actually explained a bit of this:

MK-Ultra was a series of experiments conducted by the CIA in the 1950's and
1960's and possibly even 1970's (please read Martin Lee and Bruce Shlain's
book 'Acid Dreams').
The goal was to find a truth serum, and / or mind control agent.
Test substances included alcholol, marijuiana, lsd, mescalin, psyilocybin,
etc etc...

the ultimate culmiations of these studies was a chemical weapon known as BZ
nerve gas which, when inhaled causes effects not unlike those of LSD, except
with the addition of extreme lethargy (the army wanted to use this in the
battlefield and actually tested it on 500 troops, marching them into a
depression in which the gas had been placed, since it was slighly heavier
than air, like mustard gas).

The CIA sort of fell in love with LSD, and tested it on many people,
including most of their own staff on the project, at high doses ( > 250
micrograms ).  At several parties, the punch was spiked with acid, so
operatives could observe their co-workers tripping (after one such spiking,
one employee committed suicide a week later).  The CIA even went to far as
to hire prostitues to bring men back up to a specially prepared hotel room,
with a one-way mirror, and drug their client, so the CIA could observe his
actions.

While over 90% of the mk-ultra files were destroyed by the project leader,
enough evidence has been gathered to susbstantiate the above information.
However, there has been further speculation as to the extent of mk-ultra.
Some believe that mk-ultra eventually was sucessful in mind control, and was
used to create assassins out of commonplace people.  Rumors suggest that
mk-ultra had some extent in the assassinations of JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald,
and Martin Luther King.

Reading Mark Lane's book 'A Rush To Judgement' will quickly persuade you
that the Warren commission's findings are largely inaccurate, and that
Oswald, while possibly involved, was almost certainly NOT an assassin.

It is probably not necessary to remind you that every kind of weapon we
condemn (eg biological, nerve gas, etc.) our government has been actively
involved in developing, and _testing_.  This includes several strains of
genetically engineered virii, each with particular attributes such as
extreme lethality, or pyschological warfare (gruesome, painful deaths amoung
a soldier's comrades was 'found' to be extrememly demoralizing).

Do not doubt that America, 'land of the free', has carried out countless
assassinations, and assassination attempts, regularly conducts survilence
not only on other countries, but on its own citizens indiscriminately (the
Echelon program, there are lots of sites, here is one:
http://www.caq.com/CAQ59GlobalSnoop.html ), and engages in action that would
be found undoubtably criminal, if it were known.
The special forces of the US Military conduct literally hundreds of
operations in over 100 countries each year.  How many did you hear about?
This of course, doesn't count Black Ops units like the CIA's special
'liquidation units.'

Anyway, you can check on this for yourself and evaluate it independantly.
Or you can totally ignore this and continue living guilt-free, it really
doesn't matter.  I, myself, do not subscribe to many of the so-called
'conspiracy theories,' but I do like to keep my eyes and mind open.  have
fun.

oh, and I have a few mad new tracks up at mp3.com that kick arse
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anyone know how to burn an 80-minute cd when the cdcreator thingie only 
allows for 74 minutes?  anyone?  i'd really appreciate if someone could 
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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} sound...You forgot the best!!!

Yo, you forgot the about the best overall production
company in the U.S.A. Futuristic Entertainment
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http://www.festivalcre8or.com

If you want to see the best festival production in the
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let us know when you get those if they have reserved seating on them or not!

mk, still confused

>i  picked up tickets for myself already on ticketmaster, and i guess we can
>work out the rest once feb 13th is a little closer - its a month away, after
>all...


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Subject: Re: [mw] IT




>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] IT
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:02:22 -0600
>
>everyone on the screeching weasel message board is saying that IT is a
>floating scooter.
>
>mk


Found out some more info on IT.  Apparently it IS a transportation device, 
one that cannot stand up when its not powered.  A floating scooter sounds 
like the most reasonable guess yet.  Dont know how that would work but maybe 
the technology is there...

Back to the Future 2, here we come!  (wouldnt that be ironic if BttF2 was 
the one movie to actually predict a revolutionary future technology 
accurately?)

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i use bounty paper towels.

mk - ultra absorbant

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Subject: Re: [mw] IT

At 11:28 PM 1/12/01 -0500, Adam Meadows wrote:
>Found out some more info on IT.  Apparently it IS a transportation device, 
>one that cannot stand up when its not powered.  A floating scooter sounds 
>like the most reasonable guess yet.  Dont know how that would work but 
>maybe the technology is there...

adam here are some links someone brought up on SWMB:

http://www.delphion.com/fcgi-bin/any2html?FILENAME=WO%2F01%2F50%2FWO00075001 
A1.tif&PAGE=1&SCALE=0.35

http://www.delphion.com/gifcache/WO00075001A1.tif.45.s0.35.r0.gif

http://www.delphion.com/gifcache/WO00075001A1.tif.47.s0.35.r0.gif

i dunno man i guess the engine is gyroscopic and keeps the thing upright 
when IT is on?  i'm having trouble understanding how one would propel 
oneself forward.  and what do you do if it rains?

mk, not at all short-sighted

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Subject: [mw] dear thrasher

hi i just saw back to the future part 2 i was wondering if you could tell 
me are hoverboards real because they seem pretty rad and oh yeah can you 
send me a del tape if you have any left that guy is dope and my friend 
waloo was envelope of the month last month well keep up the good work and 
please answer my quesion about hoverboards i need to know if they are real!!!

sk8 str8,
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Subject: [mw] $10 shows... with GREAT talent!

Sorry about the multiple emails.  We recently updated some info for the
upcoming South Bend shows and wanted to show everyone.  Please read.
Thank you!

ATTENTION EVERYONE!

Log Squared has recently locked down a NEW venue in South Bend.  No
mess-ups on this one.  Contracts are signed and deposits have been paid
on our new 8,000 square foot venue with access to more room if we need!
The venue is on the north side of South Bend, clean, plenty of parking,
re-modeled up to code, etc.

So, now for some better news!  We are currently planning a stream of
shows for South Bend to knock your socks off!  We thank you all for
supporting "Work It 2" in December making it THE largest show in South
Bend EVER with 1,100 people in attendance!  Our new venue is 3 times as
big as the "Work It 2" venue and will allow us to run the shows to
whatever time we desire!

Please review the information below to find out about all the great
shows Log Squared will be bringing to South Bend in the near future!
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Friday - January 26, 2001
"BRING BACK THE BASS"
South Bend, IN
Cost - $10

Featuring:
- Paul Anthony - Discolicious, Rhythm Syndicate - House - Chicago
Paul has been one of the fastest rising stars in the Midwest.  His work
has earned him recognition world-wide and landed him residencies at well

known clubs such as: The Bassment in Milwaukee, Club Orchid in
Champagne, and Space in Philadelphia.  After touring with Paul Johnson,
Paul Anthony made it clear to the world that he is on a mission... that
mission is to beat the house down!  Come welcome him for his 1st South
Bend appearance and let him know just how tough South Bend is!

-LMNts - Double E Recordings - HardHouse/NRG - Indianapolis
Brad is growing along with his Indy promotion company.  His Djing and
workings have carried him all the way to San Francisco!  Come welcome
him back to South Bend for his 2nd appearance and ask him... "what the
hell kinda music is this... it ROCKS!"

-Korova - PhysixBAM, House of Babylon - Techno - Muncie
Sean is another rising star.  Where in the hell has he been hiding all
these years?  Well... last year he busted out so hard that we know one
thing... he was not hiding... he was perfecting his skills.  Flawless
mixes to some bangin techno... you can't go wrong!

-Dementia - Log2, PhysixBAM, Vinyl Revolution
vs.
Rich D. - Log2, Vinyl Revolution
Dementia and Rich D. have been spinning together for years.  Doing
everything from individual sets to tag teams, playing each others
records for sets, etc.  Well... this night all the cute stuff will be
set aside and Dementia and Rich D. will be out for blood.  Their mission

is to see who can play the hardest most technical tracks to make your
ears bleed!  It's an old fashioned show-down!

-DJ 928 - Kelleys Crew - House - South Bend

-Avant Garde - Hard Trance - South Bend

Sound - Log Squared Sound... what else do you need to know?  Well...
know this... we will be bringing in a WALL of sound.  The dimensions
will be: 7.5 feet tall by 30 feet wide!!!!!  That totals:  12 bass bins
for a total of 18 - 18 inch speakers,
and 12 - 15 inch speakers!  Now... for those of you who know sound
design etc... you know that this is a lot of sound for a 8,000 square
foot venue.  It WILL be loud!!!!

Lighting - Intelligent lighting provided by and programmed by Log
Squared.

Laser - The new Log Squared laser will be on site to emit multiple red
and green beam effects!

So there you have it... great Dj's, great venue, great sound, great
lighting, great laser, and of course South Bend ALWAYS has great vibes
at shows!
ALL this for only $10.  So look forward to a great night!  Fliers are
out now so be on the lookout!

For more information please contact:
Log Squared - (219) 235-7071
email: log2records@voyager.net

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Other upcoming shows:
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February 9, 2001
"Our friends ARE electric"
South Bend, IN
Cost $10
Featuring:
-MAX - Maxart - Trance - Indianapolis
Rick stepped forth many years ago with a difficult task... to throw THE
1st Indianapolis rave ever!  Back when many had not even come close to
knowing what a rave was or even techno music.  Rick has come a long way
while managing to stay true to the scene.  He spins all over the
country and also does graphic design for many promoters, dj's, record
companies, etc.  He has kept his roots grounded strong and will continue

to spread his knowledge through his music. Please give Rick a warm
welcome for his 1st South Bend appearance!

-Al "DAZ" Jackson - 219 Collective - House - Northwestern Indiana
Al is another man who has been working hard in the scene from Chicago to
Indianapolis right back to his stompnig grounds of northwestern
Indiana.  He has helped put clubs on the map as well as make crowds of
people dance to his good-vibes beats.  Definately a man of true heart as
well as a remarkable DJ.  Please welcome "DAZ" to South Bend for his 1st
appearance!

-Dementia - Log^2, PhysixBAM - Hard Trance/NRG- Indianapolis

-Rich D. - Log^2, Vinyl Rev. -NRG - South Bend

-Digital Dream - Happy Hardcore - Indianapolis
More DJ's and info TBA.
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February 16, 2001
"Rock to the Beat"
South Bend, IN
Cost $10
Featuring:
-Chocolate - PhsyixBAM, House of Babylon, Log^2 - Tech-House - Indy
Chocolate... another household name in the Midwest!  Everywhere you go
and ask... who are your favorite Midwest DJ's... Chocolate is one of
them named!   Rapid skills, flipping of the switches, and kickin
tech-house beats mixed with some bangin techno... Chocolate has NEVER
let a crowd down.  After TOO MANY requests from the South Bend ravers to

bring him back, we are finally doing so for this night!

-Matt Aiden - Funk Enterprises - Dark House - Indianapolis

-Dementia - Log^2, PhysixBAM, Vinyl Revolution - Hard Trance -
Indianapolis

-Rich D. - Log^2, Vinyl Revolution - NRG - SOuth Bend.
...other DJ's TBA.
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March 2, 2001
South Bend
Cost $10
Featuring:
-Slater Hogan - Muzique Boutique - Indianapolis
Slater is Indiana best known DJ and friend to many.  His company
Muzique Boutique has been one of the leading promotion companies in
Indianapolis.  His skills and knowledge have earned him well respected
bookings across the country and will continue to take him further.
Please help us give Slater a great welcome for his 1st South Bend
appearance!

-Blair Brown - PhysixBAM@aol.com - House - Chicago
Blair keeps on popping up everywhere we look!  His residencies at
numerous Chicago clubs, raves throughout the midwest, CD's and tapes...
you cannot avoid him!  If you heard his music you would know that you
would be a fool to avoid him.  Reeeeeal nice house music to get your
feet movin.  His appearance at "Analog Distortions" in Indy made us more
than proud... now we are bringing him to South Bend to educate more
people!

-Dementia - Log^2,PhysixBAM@aol.com,Vinyl Rev. - Hard Trance -
Indianapolis

-Rich D. - Log^2,Vinyl Rev. - NRG - South Bend

-EOR - Log^2 -  Happy Hardcore - South Bend
Other DJ's TBA.
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March 16, 2001
South Bend
All info announced within 2 weeks.
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Apparently it IS a transportation device,
>one that cannot stand up when its not powered.  A floating scooter =
sounds
>like the most reasonable guess yet.  Dont know how that would work but
>maybe the technology is there...

>adam here are some links someone brought up on SWMB:
>
>http://www.delphion.com/fcgi-bin/any2html?FILENAME=3DWO%2F01%2F50%2FWO00=
075001
>A1.tif&PAGE=3D1&SCALE=3D0.35

>http://www.delphion.com/gifcache/WO00075001A1.tif.45.s0.35.r0.gif

>http://www.delphion.com/gifcache/WO00075001A1.tif.47.s0.35.r0.gif

>i dunno man i guess the engine is gyroscopic and keeps the thing =
upright
>when IT is on?  i'm having trouble understanding how one would propel
>oneself forward.  and what do you do if it rains?

Looking at some of the schematics and some of the references to the =
"contact mechanism", my guess is that it (sadly) doesn't  hover/fly at =
all. I think that its a wheel based scooter, with the wheels actually =
set in the middle, and the standing platform based on the outside.  =
There used to be this kids toy that had a rubber ball in the middle, and =
a little plastic ring on the outside that you could stand on and (in =
therory) bounce about. If you would try to just stand on the device, it =
had a tendancy to want to roll to one side and lie there on its edge. If =
you had good enough balance though, you could actually stand on the ball =
in the middle and the ring would not touch the ground.  It appears that =
what they've done is put wheels in the same place where the "ball" would =
be and make a computer do all the balancing.  So that you could stand on =
the platform, and the wheels would be directly underneath you.  Theres =
probably some mechanical advantage to doing this, but I dont know what =
it is, but it makes mention about being good for rough/unbalanced =
terrain.  So, unfortunatly, it looks like gravity is still one of the =
few rules we have to abide by. :) Or, I could be completly wrong.

-sm


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Apparently it IS a transportation=20
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scooter sounds<BR>&gt;like the most reasonable guess yet.&nbsp; Dont =
know how=20
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there...<BR><BR>&gt;adam here=20
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dunno man i guess the engine is gyroscopic and keeps the thing=20
upright<BR>&gt;when IT is on?&nbsp; i'm having trouble understanding how =
one=20
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some of the=20
references to the "contact mechanism", my guess is that it (sadly) =
doesn't&nbsp;=20
hover/fly at all. I think that its&nbsp;a wheel based scooter, with the =
wheels=20
actually set in the middle, and the standing platform based on the=20
outside.&nbsp; There used to be this kids toy that had a rubber ball in =
the=20
middle, and a little plastic ring on the outside that you could stand on =
and (in=20
therory) bounce about. If you would try to just stand on the device, it =
had a=20
tendancy to want to roll to one side and lie there on its edge.&nbsp;If =
you had=20
good enough balance though, you could actually stand on the ball in the =
middle=20
and the ring would not&nbsp;touch the ground.&nbsp; It appears that what =
they've=20
done is put wheels in the same place where the "ball" would be and make =
a=20
computer do all the balancing.&nbsp; So that you could stand on the =
platform,=20
and the wheels would be directly underneath you.&nbsp; Theres probably =
some=20
mechanical advantage to doing this, but I dont know what it is, but it =
makes=20
mention about being good for rough/unbalanced terrain.&nbsp; So, =
unfortunatly,=20
it looks like gravity is still one of the few rules we have to abide by. =
:) Or,=20
I could be completly wrong.</FONT></DIV>
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Email me back...  need to talk to ya about somethin'...

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
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Subject: [mw] Omaha this weekend...

Just wondering if there's something going on tonight.  I heard stuff, but
nothing official-like.

MWAH!

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um, what does this have to do with the price of eggs in
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events@dynamicgroove.com writes:

<< Dude...it WAS a cool post.  But way too long for
 a mailing list.  A link would have been fine.
 
    - Joe >>

that was cool?

dancing with Katerina at Pulse last night was twenty 
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mlk?

i think maria was cuter than mlk.

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um, no.

dood, when is Bush gonna throw a party?

i'm there, dude!

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um, what does this have to do with Rachel's butt?

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pixie writes:

<< i'd love to stay and talk to you but i was just on my
 way to find someone...see you later... >>

pixie talks to her boobs, which are lopsided.

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In a message dated 1/12/01 10:55:22 PM !!!First Boot!!!, te_one@yahoo.com 
writes:

> Was that a rhetorical question? Hmmm.
>  
>  Perhaps we should move on.
>  

Please do.


-Physix

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> does anyone, with the exception of government employees, actually get 
> monday off from work?
well i do...technically
i get the day off but i have to work
which DOES mean holiday pay.

thats nice
but i like not working!

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you are talking about POGO BALL - and yes, someone mentioned the similarity 
on SWMB already too.  but there is also the possibility that the wheels are 
just for "landing" and "taking off".  otherwise, i don't know that i'd see 
what the big deal was...all this hubbub about what basically amounted to 
self-balancing pogo ball?  hm.

mk, still wants to know what kind of propulsion is involved

>Looking at some of the schematics and some of the references to the 
>"contact mechanism", my guess is that it (sadly) doesn't  hover/fly at 
>all. I think that its a wheel based scooter, with the wheels actually set 
>in the middle, and the standing platform based on the outside.  There used 
>to be this kids toy that had a rubber ball in the middle, and a little 
>plastic ring on the outside that you could stand on and (in therory) 
>bounce about. If you would try to just stand on the device, it had a 
>tendancy to want to roll to one side and lie there on its edge. If you had 
>good enough balance though, you could actually stand on the ball in the 
>middle and the ring would not touch the ground.  It appears that what 
>they've done is put wheels in the same place where the "ball" would be and 
>make a computer do all the balancing.  So that you could stand on the 
>platform, and the wheels would be directly underneath you.  Theres 
>probably some mechanical advantage to doing this, but I dont know what it 
>is, but it makes mention about being good for rough/unbalanced 
>terrain.  So, unfortunatly, it looks like gravity is still one of the few 
>rules we have to abide by. :) Or, I could be completly wrong.


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>um, what does this have to do with the price of eggs in
>china?

nothing, you twit, it's actually an on-topic post.  none of us live in 
china and thusly do not care about the price of eggs there.

would anyone have interest in buying a shirt that read IDM = GAY ?

m silkscreen k

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 ATE!

I GET THE DAY OFF SCHOOL. U OF I RULZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > does anyone, with the exception of government employees, actually get 
> > monday off from work?
> well i do...technically
> i get the day off but i have to work
> which DOES mean holiday pay.
> 
> thats nice
> but i like not working!
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Subject: [mw] illuminated illuminati.

>I do not understand your words.  Please rearrange them into a > 
>comprehendable form.  Also, it would be helpful to me if you define your 
>words "Sion", "illuminati" and "bingo" in the way that
>you use them here.

I'm particularly confused by the number of times the word 'fnord' appeared 
in that original post?

Anybody have any idea what that shit means?

What do brick layers have to do with divine prophecy??

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stunt rock vs stevie t

i'd buy a ticket - especially if it was a cage match.

-t

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um, what does this have to do with the price of eggs in
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||it's too bad they had to be so mean and rude over bottled water.

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<< -------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [lovethang] This ain't good
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:42:20 -0800 (PST)
>From: Noah Levine <noahdj40@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: lovethang@egroups.com
>To: lovethang@egroups.com
>
>
>
>Feds Crack Down on 'Raves'
>Prosecutors Pursue Organizers of Parties Where Drug Use Rampant
>
>Jan. 12 ? The dance parties known as "raves" are widely-considered notorious 
havens for illegal drugs like ecstasy, and now federal prosecutors are coming
>after the hosts of such parties.
>
>An indictment today in New Orleans against three men who organized a series 
of rave parties there could signal a nationwide trend, federal prosecutors 
said.  The case appears to be a widening of the prosecutors' focus from those 
who were dealing or doing club drugs to those who organize parties where they 
are popular.
>
>The New Orleans parties, where prosecutors said hundreds of part-goers 
overdosed during the last 5 years, took place at a landmark downtown 
performance hall known as the State Palace Theater.
>
>The rave organizers were indicted by a federal grand  jury under the federal 
"crack house" law, which makes it a crime to make a building available for 
the use of
illegal drugs, in this case drugs like ecstasy and LSD.
>
>"In my time as a prosecutor this is one of the most unconscionable drug 
violations I have seen," U.S. Attorney Eddie Jordan said. "They used these 
raves to exploit young people by designing them for pervasive drug abuse."
>
>Hundreds of Overdoses
>
>The State Palace Theater was notorious for the overnight parties, where the 
drug ecstasy was openly available, say local hospital staff. "We were 
treating a dozen victims from that club every month," said Dr.Jorge Martinez, 
who works in the emergency room of New Orleans' Charity Hospital.
>
>The joint investigation by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and New 
Orleans police was sparked in part from complaints by hospital emergency room 
staff about exceptionally large numbers of patients suffering from the 
effects of drugs on "rave" nights.
>
>George Cazenavette, a DEA special agent, said investigators connected more 
than 400 overdoses to the raves, which were held periodically from 1995 
through
August 2000.
>
>The drug, which induces intense euphoria and lowers inhibitions, is 
particularly trendy among middle class teenagers and young adults and has 
exploded in popularity in recent years. The DEA estimates 2 million ecstasy 
tablets are smuggled into the United States every week.
>
>Now, the DEA has begun a national campaign against the so-called "club 
drug." "We want to educate the publicand our friends in law enforcement to 
how they can go
about stopping these rave parties that are really there just for drugs," said 
Joe Keefe, chief ofoperations for the DEA.
>
>Other Prosecutors Ask About Strategy
>
>Robert J Brunet, 37, of Metairie, La., who leased andmanaged the State 
Palace, was charged with conspiracyto violate the crack house law. His 
brother, Brian Brunet, 33, of Tampa, Fla., was charged along withJames 
Estopinal, 32, of New Orleans, on one count of violating the crack house law.
>
>Each faces maximum penalties of 20 years in prison and $500,000 in fines. 
The men had been notified of the charges but were not arrested. They were 
expected to
be arraigned next week, Jordan said. The owners of the theater will not be 
charged, prosecutors said.
>
>Jordan said federal prosecutors around the country have asked him for copies 
of the case so they can use the same strategies to crack down on rave 
organizers
>in their areas.
>
>By definition, raves are parties where pulsating music, special effects such 
as steam, and paraphernalia such as pacifiers, chemical light sticks and 
flashing light rings are used to support highs from club drugs, prosecutors 
said. Anyone who uses the word "rave" to market an event could be inviting a 
federal investigation, they said.
>
>
>ABCNEWS' Bill Redeker and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
>
>=====
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In a message dated 01/13/2001 13:31:37, YSHARA@aol.com writes:

<< 400 overdoses to the raves, which were held periodically from 1995 
through
August 2000. >>

They should look at rock concerts some more.. more people get killed pushin 
up to the stage to see Ricki Martin and from violent fights in a year then 
this number spread over a 5 year period..  

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i think i'd get into a violent fight if i was at a ricky martin concert,
more than likely with whoever made me go.

livin la vida loca,
-t

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They should look at rock concerts some more.. more people get killed pushin 
up to the stage to see Ricki Martin and from violent fights in a year then 
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<< would anyone have interest in buying a shirt that read IDM = GAY ?
 
 m silkscreen k >>

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Subject: [mw] Re: numbers

if these numbers are documentable and correct, an average of 80 people or
occurrances per year ODing in a scene is a big number...BTW, this is just in
the new orleans scene...i cant comment on how many people get hurt at other
functions in new orleans but 80 is a bunch with comparison strictly to the
rave scene...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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>
> In a message dated 01/13/2001 13:31:37, YSHARA@aol.com writes:
>
> << 400 overdoses to the raves, which were held periodically from 1995
> through
> August 2000. >>
>
> They should look at rock concerts some more.. more people get killed
pushin
> up to the stage to see Ricki Martin and from violent fights in a year then
> this number spread over a 5 year period..
>
> SLaPiNFuNK


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Subject: [mw] Think about this. Was: Re: Numbers

On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, DJ ORACLE [DANIEL J. BRITT] wrote:

> if these numbers are documentable and correct, an average of 80 people or
> occurrances per year ODing in a scene is a big number...BTW, this is just in
> the new orleans scene...i cant comment on how many people get hurt at other
> functions in new orleans but 80 is a bunch with comparison strictly to the
> rave scene...
> 

It is a hefty number, however, considering all the things that the really
dumb lower 1% of ravers do (Mixing G, K, Alcohol, E, etc, etc) I would not
expect much better. This is entirely the fault of the FBI, DEA, etc for
making sure that parents have been notified that "raves" are
"drug-parties". The parents tell their kids, who have been looking for
some good "drug-parties", not to go to raves as they are
"drug-parties". Nice work.

Although E, LSD, and THC have had a close and real relationship with dance
music and all forms of human creativity (the ramifications of which are
still not understood), the main point of this is not to simply be a flea
market for drugs.

Looking at drug economics, it is easy to see why this is a perfect flea
market for drugs:

* All ages welcome

* Private event gives security from cops on the street

* Party/Concert environment provides a host of consumers

and the real kicker that kills me:

* The DEA markets and promotes raves for free as a "drug-party"


Why would a dealer out to make some cash go anywhere else?


What gets me is that the FBI is now out to get promoters of electronic
music festivals. They are doing this because they couldn't keep nailing
the dealers. The reason they cannot nail the dealers is that they have
already broken up cartels, weeded out the dumb dealers, and created a very
balanced playing field for small stealty operations to play the game of
capitalism.

Since the new dealers have been naturally selected for the ability to
evade law enforcement, the FBI believes that they should now destroy any
environment used by small time dealers by invoking the crack house law in
an iffy manner. "Rave" is now probable cause. The drug war has switched to
indicting anyone who provides any level of sympathy for the drug economy,
in an effort to destroy its environment, since reducing supply and demand
have both failed.

Luckily, this does not mean the end of raves, but it does mean the end of
big thirty dollar wait in line with the flyer you picked up at the mall
events. This kind of persecution, although immoral, should actually cause
a form of selection within the sphere of rave promotions, leading to a
number of small, intimate, DIY events that although illegal, will have the
capability to smartly evade the detection of the public and law
enforcement. There will probably be alot of dark jungle played.

THANK GOD!

In the meantime, you can perhaps prevent your own future children from a
life in prison by donating to some good organizations such as the
following:

http://www.norml.org


	-Syllepsis


p.s. For all you people ODing: Its mixing the alcohol in that usually does
     it. Ironic, huh? 

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HAHAHAHA!
Sweet!

>I'm particularly confused by the number of times the word 'fnord' appeared
>in that original post?
>
>Anybody have any idea what that shit means?
>
 Hey mr fishead will you marry me?

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Subject: [mw] EXOTICA! THIS SUNDAY!!!

THE EVENT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR IS FINALLY HERE!

Sunday January 14th, 2001

***** Exotica! *****

:: featuring ::
 Mixin Marc | Paul Anthony & Jes One | DJ Loverboy | Alex Peace
 Chris Tomasone | DJ Speed | DJ Wizzkid 

:: hosted by ::
 Miss June 2000 Playboy Playmate Shannon Stewart
======================================================

TICKETS ARE STRONGLY ADVISED. THERE WILL BE TWO LINES FOR
THIS EVENT. ONE FOR PRESALE TICKETHOLDERS AND ONE FOR
GENERAL ADMISSION. THE PRESALE TICKET LINE WILL GET IN
FIRST! THIS EVENT WILL REACH CAPACITY SO WE URGE EVERYONE
TO PURCHASE PRESALE!!!

PreSale Ticket Outlets
 Superdance *Arlington Hts* 847/577.1234 
 Another Level *Schaumburg* 847/882.9165 
 Mix-A-Lots *Naperville* 630/848.0788 
 Supreme *Chicago (North)* 773/862.7047 
 Another Level *Chicago (South)* 773/767.5732 
 Grooveshop *Rockford* 815/229.7375 
 Audio Depot *Madison* 608/251.2000 

=====================================================

Studio 21 (formerly Club GQ)
2121 East New York Street, Aurora, IL
Strictly 18 & Over / 21 to drink
9pm - 4am / $15 Tickets
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=====================================================

DIRECTIONS TO STUDIO 21 VENUE:

Suburbs: 
Take I-88 West to Rt. 59 Rt. 59 South to New York St.
Make a right on New York St, venue is 2 miles up on left side.

Downtown:
Take I-290 West to I-88. I-88 West to Rt. 59. Take Rt. 59
South to New York St. Make a right on New York St, venue is
2 miles up on left side.

Rockford:
Take I-39 South to I-88 East, towards CHICAGO. Take I-88
to FARNSWORTH AVE South.Turn left on E NEW YORK ST venue
is on right side. 

More detailed directions can be found on our web site...
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The only problem i see with this idea is that while s-rock has some basic
understanding of wrestling technique (ie. folding chairs) he generally makes
himself the target of his attacks.

a match where stuntrock beats himself with a folding chair till he bleeds
might not be what you are after.

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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> stunt rock vs stevie t
>
> i'd buy a ticket - especially if it was a cage match.
>
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Son316east@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [mw] WHITE RABBITS VS. STUNT ROCK RELEASE
>
>
> um, what does this have to do with the price of eggs in
> china?
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i dunno, a match where one beats himself with a folding chair might be not
too far off from a match with our own mr t.

maybe i just want this to happen so i can get an official tshirt.  

tell me especially YOU wouldn't want one too.

-t

ps - if stevie won't do it, maybe stunt will beat him in effigy.

pps - seriously, i'm gonna try to get to thai joe's tonight.

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The only problem i see with this idea is that while s-rock has some basic
understanding of wrestling technique (ie. folding chairs) he generally makes
himself the target of his attacks.

a match where stuntrock beats himself with a folding chair till he bleeds
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and if im on the guest list then you do know where ill be on the 27th gabe

-THE bitch iySyS-

: i know where u better be the 27th
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could some one give me directions to clubhead from lexington?  i can
make to 75 on my own ;)

thanks
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http://www.rocketcash.com
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i don't know how to get there but you better take a 12 pack

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hello, i am producing an event in pittsbourg; could someone possibly inform me
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Subject: Re: [mw] Dan Efex

if you want the pittsburgh kids to support your event, you might wanna 
spell the name of their town right when it comes time to do flyers.

mk

At 08:27 PM 1/13/01 -0500, Andy Toth wrote:

>hello, i am producing an event in pittsbourg; could someone possibly inform me
>of his contact information?
>
>thank you.
>
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:)

it was a joke, mr. michael knight.  i've lived here for 19 years; i may call it
what i like. 


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Subject: Re: [mw] clubhead records

its very easy...take I-75N till you get to downtown cincinnati...right
before you go over the big bridge, position yourself in the right 2 lanes to
go over the bridge...immediately on the other (ohio) side you want to take
the 5th ave exit...go to the end of the off ramp and make a right onto
5th...drive straight for about 5-7 streets through downtown until you get to
main street (the next light after kinkos)...make a left onto main street (1
way) and go straight until you get to 1410 main street (14th and main) where
clubhead is...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, oh 45206
booking line: 513.766.2007 x1429
djoracle@onebox.com  www.djoracle.com

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> could some one give me directions to clubhead from lexington?  i can
> make to 75 on my own ;)
>
> thanks
> -chad
>
>
> Shop online without a credit card
> http://www.rocketcash.com
> RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
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Hey guys, anybody around? I am so bored once again. IM me please
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no, i'm asleep.  this is an auto-reply.

dreamy,
mk

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I dont sleep..  its funny to see how much this list blows up with emails 
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yeah last time i checked, the criteria for a young
enlightened soul didn't include taking away any
opportunities for those young enlightened souls to
offset the cost of a d.i.y. by selling cheap water to
dehydrated people.

but then, hey, what would i know. i still big-up
furthur and the fact that, if i want to, i can sell
homemade veggie burritos there to help raise money for
gas to get home.



--- Grant <grant@techgallery.com> wrote:
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> about the promoters
> stealing water.
> 
> 
> YesFest@aol.com wrote:
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> > Stellar Awareness & Teknomafia will be holding the
> release party for the YES
> > Fest Documentary on Friday, March 16, 2001 in
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> >
> > We will be showing parts of the documentary on
> video screens as well as
> > having some copies on hand for purchase.
> >
> > The event will feature an international headliner
> as well as several other
> > huge names to be released on the preflyer coming
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> Or about the vendors that blatantly sold water
> when repeatedly asked not to..... that's always 
> a funny one, too.

yeah, indy promoters being greedy. that always gets a
good laugh outta me.

outta curiousity. what was so horrible about other
vendors selling water again? taking away the y.e.s.
organizers profits? oooh, BAD! 

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Subject: Re: [mw] New d 'n' b Track info!!

i listened.

i liked.

you should too.
pixie

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> the new track ("Myoptic 
> Camouflage") so far.  It now sits at #3 on the
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--- Son316east@aol.com wrote:
> pixie talks to her boobs, which are lopsided.

you're just disappointed cause the ratio on your nuts
is higher.

i mean really...you might get the girls to dance with
you, but who goes down on a guy with 1 11-inch nutsac,
and one stuck up inside? besides your mom, i mean.

saw pictures, would never wanna go there.
pixie


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Subject: Re: [mw] Dan Efex

michael, turn the sarcasm meter to +20.

besides, i still owe andy a trance tape ;]

imagine that
pixie

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> 
> it was a joke, mr. michael knight.  i've lived here
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Subject: [mw] 2.2.1 :: Lexington, KY :: Higher

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ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2001
IN LEXINGTON, KY
ENTICE WILL TAKE YOU...


HIGHER!



Line-Up:

.. DJ Spree (minneapolis, mn)  vs.  Valerie Sparks (san francisco, ca) ..
.. Cloudskipper (san francisco, ca)  vs.  Muppetfucker (austin, tx) .. 2X4
.. Matt Positive (chicago, il) ..
.. DJ Entropy (boston, ma) ..
.. Tilzs (minneapolis, mn) ..
.. DJ Resistor (washington, dc) ..
.. DJ Eor (south bend, in) ..


General Information:


.. 9000 sq. feet of clean, virgin, secure space with plenty of parking and bathrooms!
.. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals from our friends at Project 7!
.. Free toys and giveaways to ticket holders!
.. R.O.A.R. in full effect! No alcohol, drugs, firearms, open containers, markers, backpacks or drama. You will be searched at the door by our firm and friendly security staff. Please respect the venue and each other. Please dress warmly. Coat check will be provided.


Ticket Information:

Pre-sales tickets are now on sale until January 31. Pre-sale ticket holders will have entry priority and receive a free toy at the door. Those of you travelling 300 miles or more (approx. 5 hours driving time) will get in at pre-sale cost (proof of travel is required). We do, however, everyone to purchase pre-sale tickets as this event will sell out quickly! Only 800 tickets will be sold!
.. Pre-sale tickets: $12.00
.. At the door: $15.00 w/ a new coloring book; $17.00 w/out
Tickets can be purchased at 808 Records on S. Limestone near the UK Campus in Lexington. If not in the Lexington area, tickets can be obtained with a credit card or check via phone - 859.252.9808..

MAIN INFO LINE - 859.288.4599
WEBSITE - HTTP://WWW.ENTICE.NU
E-MAIL - INFO@ENTICE.NU
PREPRE-SALE TICKETS - 859.252.9808

DIRECTIONS AND HOTEL INFORMATION WILL BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND THE INFO LINE APPROXIMATELY ONE WEEK BEFORE THE EVENT.  



Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar

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<P align=center><FONT color=crimson face=Verdana style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2001<BR></FONT><FONT color=crimson face=Verdana style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: white">IN LEXINGTON, KY<BR>ENTICE WILL TAKE YOU...</FONT></P><BR>
<P align=center><FONT color=brown><FONT color=blue face=Verdana size=6 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"><STRONG>HIGHER!</STRONG></FONT></FONT></P><BR><FONT size=+0><BR>
<P><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=red><STRONG><U>Line-Up:</U><BR></STRONG></FONT><STRONG></FONT><BR></STRONG><FONT face=Verdana><FONT size=2><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue>.. DJ Spree (minneapolis, mn)&nbsp; vs.&nbsp; Valerie Sparks (san francisco, ca) ..<BR>.. Cloudskipper (san francisco, ca)&nbsp; vs.&nbsp; Muppetfucker (austin, tx) .. 2X4<BR>..&nbsp;Matt Positive (chicago, il) ..<BR>..&nbsp;DJ Entropy (boston, ma) ..<BR>.. Tilzs (minneapolis, mn) ..<BR>..&nbsp;DJ Resistor (washington, dc) ..<BR>..&nbsp;DJ Eor (south bend, in) ..</FONT></STRONG></FONT><BR></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Verdana><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><FONT color=red><STRONG><U>General Information:</U></STRONG></FONT></FONT></STRONG><BR></FONT></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><FONT color=red><FONT size=2><FONT color=steelblue face=Verdana>.. 9000 sq. feet of clean, virgin, secure space with plenty of parking and bathrooms!<BR>.. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals from our friends at Project 7!<BR>.. Free toys and giveaways to ticket holders!<BR>.. R.O.A.R. in full effect! No alcohol, drugs, firearms, open containers, markers, backpacks or drama. You will be searched at the door by our firm and friendly security staff. Please respect the venue and each other. Please dress warmly. Coat check will be provided.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><BR></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT color=steelblue><FONT color=red face=Verdana><U>Ticket Information:</U></FONT></FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Verdana><STRONG>Pre-sales tickets are now on sale until January 31. Pre-sale ticket holders will have entry priority and receive a free toy at the door. Those of you travelling 300 miles or more (approx. 5 hours driving time) will get in at pre-sale cost (proof of travel is required). We do, however, everyone to purchase pre-sale tickets as this event will sell out quickly! Only 800 tickets will be sold!<BR>.. Pre-sale tickets: $12.00<BR>.. At the door: $15.00 w/ a new coloring book; $17.00 w/out<BR>Tickets can be purchased at 808 Records on S. Limestone near the UK Campus in Lexington. If not in the Lexington area, tickets can be obtained with a credit card or check via phone - 859.252.9808..</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=+0><FONT color=palevioletred><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana><FONT face=Verdana><STRONG><FONT size=2><FONT color=palevioletred>MAIN INFO LINE - 859.288.4599<BR></FONT></FONT></STRONG></FONT><FONT size=2>WEBSITE - <A href="http://www.entice.nu/" target=_blank></FONT><FONT color=palevioletred size=2><STRONG>HTTP://WWW.ENTICE.NU<BR></STRONG></FONT></A><STRONG><FONT color=palevioletred size=2>E</FONT></STRONG></FONT></STRONG></FONT></FONT><FONT size=+0><STRONG><FONT face=Verdana><FONT color=palevioletred size=2>-MAIL - </FONT><FONT color=palevioletred><FONT size=2><FONT color=palevioletred><STRONG><A href="http://us.f5.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=INFO@ENTICE.NU" target=_blank>INFO@ENTICE.NU</A><BR></STRONG></FONT><STRONG>PRE</STRONG></FONT></FONT></FONT></STRONG><FONT size=2><FONT color=palevioletred face=Verdana><STRONG>PRE-SALE TICKETS - 859.252.9808</STRONG></FONT></P>
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Subject: [mw] *Pulse* Jan27 in PGH Pa Featuring the Dj's from GROOVE the movie

Cloudbreak Productions Presents..... 

***PULSE*** 

A Benefit For The American Cancer Society 

**All Proceeds Benefit The American Cancer Society** 

Saturday, January 27th 

10-6am 

$15 Presale 

$20 

412-808-3306 

cloudbreakproductions@yahoo.com 

17+ with Valad Id 

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The Main Room: 

 

Forest Green (Sister SF, Cloud Factory, Organized
Chaos, FnF,San Fran Actively involved in the
world-wide underground dance scene, Forest Green spins
Techno, Electro, House and various derivatives of all
other electronic music. She is involved in Many
projects and collectives through out the San Francisco
Bay Area and Canada, and is featured in the movie
GROOVE, an independent feature film set during one
night in the San Fran underground rave scene. 

 

Bing Ching- (Focus, SF) aka DJ Snaz from the movie
Groovespinning some deep house to get your ass
grooving. 

 

The Mighty Mezz (F.E.S.P.) A New York resident comes
back to Pittsburgh to take you on a journey with his
seamless blend of progressive beats and trance-core
energy. 

 

Andrew Phelan-(Seismic Productions) Chicago deep disco
and hard house. This guy has held residency's in
Chicago and has been spinning in Ohio currently. Come
check him out!!! 

 

Tim vs. Ted Zelch-(Twin Productions) These guys are
gonna blow your mind tagging an awesome set. Their
residents at groove every friday at Club Laga. 

 

DJ Messy (CloudBreak Productions / Lolli.org) CD
Release Party DJ Messy will be releasing his new CD
Verkurzt with awesome sounds of Progressive House and
UK Hardhouse. You can't miss this!!! Free giveaways!!!
Just Listen!
http://www.chemlab.org/archives.php4?mode=artist&artist_name=DJ+Messy


 

Kingpin (CloudBreak Productions) A newer DJ that is
making his name known in the Pittsburgh scene spinning
progressive house and trance. 

----------------------------------------------------- 

The Dnb Room: 

Aria & L. Black (Good Looking Records / Skunkwerks /
3WP)Dj Aria is fast becoming the most popular
Intell/Atmospheric DnB Djs in both the Mid-west and in
US along with Mc L. Black (who recently got a
recording contract a off of LTJ Bukem's GOOD LOOKING
recording label),This should be an Eye opening
experience for all who love the Intelligent sound of
Dn'B! If you missed his set at Chaoticotic Trans or at
Acclerate heresA sample of what you'll be Hearing:
http://www.chemlab.org/cgi-bin/make.m3u?arch=chaotic_transdimension&track=aria%2Bmc_black

 

Focus (Murder On Deck ,Hypersonic,fuNCtionSE)(Nc) One
of Nc's finest Djs, he has been blowing up in
NC,Fl,Pa, and in OH! His technical wizardry and track
selection is definatley something you do not want
miss! 

 

Adam Bomb BatteredArmidillo/y-town First appearence in
Pgh! dropping some dark atomic bombs for the junglist
massiv' 

 

Binac (aka nicky bulletproof) systembulletproof /
412dnb.lm.com The founding father of 412's Bulletproof
an a operative who has been a staple in the pittsburgh
drum n bass community for years Nick has been
responsibile for bringing in some of the best Dn'B
talent to pgh now as a Dj he has been growing in
popularity 

 

DJ Depth/with Mc Nicka FaithinDn'B/Pgh 
Dj Depth is one of Pgh newest and brightest stars
along with Mc Nicka who was introduced recently as pgh
newest DnB mc's will put on set plesant to the ears! 

 

MVP (412dnb crew / Pittsburgh) FUZE Resident and
Winner of the Atomic battle of the DJ's. This guy has
been throwing down hard ass jungle in Pittsburgh for
over 4 years. His smooth mixing ability and tight cuts
are down to keep your head banging. Don't miss this
set. 

 

Dj Kuggs FaithinDn'B 

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Giveaways all night from Kinetic Records

(they did the soundtrack for the movie Groove) !!! 

Cancer information booth too!!! 

Come out and support a good cause and have a great
time!!!




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sellout : only a word for people who complain about the major public 
listening to music they want only for theirself and their scene. exposure is 
everything....so what if some person is listening to trance/house music for 
fun...don't they have the right to listen to it just as much as you do...you 
might live and breathe the music but as long as they are having fun 
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Nah, if you are cute (like me) bob will buy the beer... just becareful not
to drink too much, insist on opening your own bottle and do not leave your
bottle unattended.  Otherwise you may forget a day or two and wake up in
the back room with severe chaffing.

tad

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>i don't know how to get there but you better take a 12 pack
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Subject: [mw] Fwd: [happyusa] the rave game

bahahah!

stone cold mk kirby power

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i'm selling my kaoss pad... it's great for any dj who wants to add real
time effects processing to their mixes.

if you're interested check out this link
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----- Original Message -----
From: <Demonslayer84@aol.com>

> sellout : only a word for people who complain about the major public
> listening to music they want only for theirself and their scene. exposure
is
> everything....so what if some person is listening to trance/house music
for
> fun...don't they have the right to listen to it just as much as you
do...you
> might live and breathe the music but as long as they are having fun
> everything is good.


To Sell Out (to become a "Sellout"): To sign a contract (usually with a
major label) with clauses that bind one to do any requested work for the
company while relinquishing all ownership of and creative control over ones
work.


People don't sell out when they make a lot of $$$ and are pushed into the
mass media unless they did it by relinquishing creative control and
submitting to the whims of corporate fat cat executives who aren't even
involved in the scene.

IMHO

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Subject: [mw] REMIXERS wanted for CD comp


[apologies for the duplication: i realized that the beginning of a long
weekend was NOT the night to post 
this.  so, if you're not still feelin' it, then go ahead and read this. 
otherwise. wait until your brain
has recovered :).]


Anyone want to be a star(belly)?

remix one of the tracks on "unexpectedly delayed EP" - you'll find them all
available for download at

http://www.mp3.com/grantstevensstar

Do whatever you want with it, as few or as many original song elements as
you like.  EVERY
remix will be featured on the "unexpectedly played" MP3 station, and
listeners will vote
on their favorite remix.  The top 10 will be guaranteed inclusion in the
starbelly records 
release "unexpectedly remixed", the rest of the tracks on "unexpectedly
remixed" will be
grant stevens' favorite remixes.  The CD will be released and promoted in
the hometown of
everyone included on the CD.  So start rockin' like dokken!

if interested please reply through the contact section of 

http://www.mp3.com/grantstevensstar

with the name of the track(s) you'd like to remix and a little about
yourself.

thanks-
grant stevens
starbelly records
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stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< but who goes down on a guy with 1 11-inch nutsac,
 and one stuck up inside? besides your mom, i mean >>

a 111-inch nutsac and one stuck up inside?

what kind of porn on acid have you been watching pixie?

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> a 111-inch nutsac and one stuck up inside?
> 
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> pixie?

the stuff your mom posted on the internet last week.

DUH!
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Subject: Re: [mw] Oakie

It bothers me when people complain about artists or groups becoming too 
'mainstream' or people claim an artist or a group 'sold out' because 
they've suddenly become widely popular.

Don't get me wrong, I haven't liked anything oakenfold's done since about 
march of 99 (miami), but just because he's on MTV now doesn't mean he 
should be hated. (You should hate him for making suck-ass mixes, not being 
popular.)

Once you realize that, you will notice that he's in the same category as 
the backstreet boys or any other mega-popular suck-ass mtv personality.

More mw flamebait:
example: I've always liked Moby, and I know other people who have also... 
but I also know people who have stopped listening to his music recently, 
claiming he's too 'mainstream'.  I don't think music should be about image.

dunno, i'm ranting, commence flaming

-j


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Subject: [mw] (OT):Novation Bass Station

Sorry for the off-topic post, (and cross-post) but I'm in need of a little 
assistance. I just got a Novaiton Bass Station... If there's anyone out 
there that has experience with this synth, could you please hit me back? I'm 
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Subject: [mw] NRR:  To all Vikings fans!!

Did the team forget the game was today?

Just asking....

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR:  To all Vikings fans!!

yowzah

no shit though, i'm from wisco so the vikings losing was all good, but it
totally fucked up my superbowl picks

i had the vikings picked to winn over the raiders.

i lost $10,000.00 and boy am i pissed

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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> Did the team forget the game was today?
>
> Just asking....
>
> meep
>
>  - Soniq
>
> "Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
> bang the box and take requests!"
>
> DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
> Denny's Creature Productions - Activ8
> http://www.worlddjalliance.com/soniqstylz
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> http://www.substancemusicusa.com
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Subject: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...

Okay, so I've been craving some nasty ghetto tech lately...

Does anyone have any sites, etc. to recommend for tracks, etc.?

I especially want some DJs that spin ghetto tech that I can find mixes
from on Napster.

(So I'm a hi-bandwidth pimp... whucha gonna do?)

Mike

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I have some DJ Funk mp3s I'd be happy to send you..  
I am currently on a search for the track that goes "Hoes take off yo' clothes, 
hoes get naked!"


/me thinks back to Further when j3s and whendee got half nekkid to that song  
:)


-Jen  :)

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hate mail, i love it.

-t

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: www.guyswithglowsticks.com


Man, did you create this site? If so, it's very very VERY sad and lame. You 
should really take it down. It's a joke but it's not even funny. What drove 
you to do this? :P
You obviously don't know the first thing about partying.

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From mw-raves-return-14298-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 14:21:33 2001
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hate mail, i love it.

does he have any shots of himshelf with glowsticks?
better still, does he have a copy of the "raving rulebook"?



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From mw-raves-return-14299-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 14:48:59 2001
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You are both the player and the pawn in the game of life.

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illuminati=greatest game EVER.  aaron.

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From mw-raves-return-14300-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 14:51:46 2001
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Discordianism

<recreation> /dis-kor'di-*n-ism/ The veneration of Eris, also known as
Discordia; widely popular among hackers. Discordianism was popularised by
Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson's novel "Illuminatus!" as a sort of
self-subverting Dada-Zen for Westerners - it should on no account be taken
seriously but is far more serious than most jokes. Consider, for example,
the Fifth Commandment of the Pentabarf, from "Principia Discordia": "A
Discordian is Prohibited of Believing What he Reads." Discordianism is
usually connected with an elaborate conspiracy theory/joke involving
millennia-long warfare between the anarcho-surrealist partisans of Eris and
a malevolent, authoritarian secret society called the Illuminati.

See Religion, Church of the SubGenius, and ha ha only serious.


-----Original Message-----
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>I do not understand your words.  Please rearrange them into a > 
>comprehendable form.  Also, it would be helpful to me if you define your 
>words "Sion", "illuminati" and "bingo" in the way that
>you use them here.

I'm particularly confused by the number of times the word 'fnord' appeared 
in that original post?

Anybody have any idea what that shit means?

What do brick layers have to do with divine prophecy??

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... is mw-slow today.  

-t

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... is mw-slow today.

-t

yawwwwwwn....huh?
mmmmmm......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................



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maybe a little "trance rules...."  will get people talking.........

TRANCE RULES!!!!



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--- kalbrecht@pentairwater.com wrote:
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> maybe a little "trance rules...."  will get people
> talking.........
> 
> TRANCE RULES!!!!
its good the list is slow today I have 479 messages to
catch up on.  Dood its a holiday most people are not
even up.  :O)

ALPha

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Subject: Re: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...


DJ Assault - "Coming From the D" is pretty easy to find on Napster

As well, I've seen mixes by Godfather and Disco D floating around Napster.  
The Gary Chandler set from DEMF isn't too hard to find either.  That should 
keep you satisfied in the full length ghettotech mix department.

Now... if you ever find anything by Wax Taxin' Dre... you're in business!

-pm-

DJ .com
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>From: Bill Ding <thewarrior@juno.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...
>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:34:31 -0600
>
>Okay, so I've been craving some nasty ghetto tech lately...
>
>Does anyone have any sites, etc. to recommend for tracks, etc.?
>
>I especially want some DJs that spin ghetto tech that I can find mixes
>from on Napster.
>
>(So I'm a hi-bandwidth pimp... whucha gonna do?)
>
>Mike
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Subject: [mw] Re: [[mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...]

the best booty house mix i've ever heard was by DJ Anonymous.  i bought i=
t
from the massive boys a while back, so check the massive.com site and see=
 if
you can order it.  it may be on napster...  but seriously, that's the kin=
d of
mixtape that has had nonstop play in my car for 2 months, has people who =
don't
even listen to dance music begging me to dub them a copy, and so-on.  it =
is
awesome.  everyone hates me because i won't let it leave my car.  ...i wo=
n't
even lend it to my girlfriend!  a dj you might find on napster would be D=
J
Venom - he has a lot of mixes out there.  by the way, did you know that p=
aul
johnson used to make some serious booty music?  i have a bunch of old Dan=
ce
Mania 12"'s with him and stacey kidd.

peace,
catnap

Bill Ding <thewarrior@juno.com> wrote:
Okay, so I've been craving some nasty ghetto tech lately...

Does anyone have any sites, etc. to recommend for tracks, etc.?

I especially want some DJs that spin ghetto tech that I can find mixes
from on Napster.

(So I'm a hi-bandwidth pimp... whucha gonna do?)

Mike

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Hehehe...i got a picture or two of that...cant find them though :<
but that was the only set i danced to the whole weekend

and word to to david foster wallace



me thinks back to Further when j3s and whendee got half nekkid to that song
>:)
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>-Jen  :)
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>When they were introduced, he made a witicism, hoping to be liked.  She 
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----- Original Message -----
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> See Religion, Church of the SubGenius, and ha ha only serious.




But only if you send a dollar to poBox 140306 Dallas TX 75214, otherwise you
will ony get misinformation designed to confuse the Pink into believing it's
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Fuck bob...he is just another lazy man

I give props to his wife and mom
those women know the truth


>
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> should be hated. (You should hate him for making
> suck-ass mixes, not being 
> popular.)

i agree.

> example: I've always liked Moby, and I know other
> people who have also... 
> but I also know people who have stopped listening to
> his music recently, 
> claiming he's too 'mainstream'.  I don't think music
> should be about image.

i agree. and i also, to some extent, like moby. i am
just of the opinion that a few of his tracks are a
little bland. not nearly as bad though as fatboy slim.

eh.
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> See Religion, Church of the SubGenius, and ha ha
> only serious.

SLACK!

www.subgenius.com

any excuse,
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Hey guys trevor Lamont here and I need your help.  I
desperately need to get a hold of Traxx.  His cell
phone is disconnected ( 773-991-jack ) and that was my
only way of getting in touch with him.  

It is extremely important that I reach him.  If anyone
has another number for him please let me know.  If
someone has his address please forward that to me
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It is EXTREMELY important.  

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> > example: I've always liked Moby, and I know other
> > people who have also... 
> > but I also know people who have stopped listening to
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> > claiming he's too 'mainstream'.  I don't think music
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maybe they've stopped listening to him recently because his recent music
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> Fuck bob...

exactly.

> he is just another lazy man


He's THE lazy man.

> 
> I give props to his wife and mom
> those women know the truth


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> me thinks back to Further when j3s and whendee got half nekkid to that song

oh my....

/me is glad the video of that got screwed up ;P










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> SLACK!
> 
> www.subgenius.com

get out that credit card!





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Subject: [mw] really cool


i'm on another list and it's got a cool feature.  

if a reply to a post hasn't been trimmed to remove at least the header
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Subject: [mw] NRR -Lies!

Hey,

Here's a question for everyone.......

What's the biggest lie you've ever told or gotten away with?


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From mw-raves-return-14319-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 18:33:20 2001
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Subject: [mw] NRR -Lies

Do you think it's okay to lie?

Just wondering what everyone's feelings are?

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In a message dated 01/15/2001 12:32:47, superp25@netzero.net writes:

<< What's the biggest lie you've ever told or gotten away with?

Is it ok to lie?

 >>

Its ok to BEND the truth just a little bit..  hehehe..  

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From mw-raves-return-14322-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 19:03:43 2001
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i do think, that when nazis were asking germans if they were hiding
Jewish in their homes, and they were, and they did in fact lie and say
they weren't...that lying was okay. 

  i don't know, depends on the circumstances.

                    nothing is truly evil or truly good


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From mw-raves-return-14324-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 19:06:21 2001
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u couldnt of picked a better analogy? especially on mw rave. bet that will 
cause and endless thread.

gt303@juno.com writes:

<< i do think, that when nazis were asking germans if they were hiding
 Jewish in their homes, and they were, and they did in fact lie and say
 they weren't...that lying was okay.  >>


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From mw-raves-return-14325-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 19:08:48 2001
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> u couldnt of picked a better analogy? especially on mw rave. bet that will 
> cause and endless thread.

actually, there's some axiom somewhere that states once hitler or nazis
are mentioned in an email thread it is officially dead. unfortunately,
this isn't always the case.

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From mw-raves-return-14326-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 19:10:27 2001
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i wish i would've known about that before...

/me programs a function key to post something about nazis to kill "trance
sucks" threads in the future.

-t

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> u couldnt of picked a better analogy? especially on mw rave. bet that will

> cause and endless thread.

actually, there's some axiom somewhere that states once hitler or nazis
are mentioned in an email thread it is officially dead. unfortunately,
this isn't always the case.

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face down, ass up?

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 SLaPiNFuNK@aol.com wrote:

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sorry!!! 

  i'm doing WWII homework at the moment and it was the first thing that
popped into my head. 
   *runs unde

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On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 02:17:40PM -0500, Griggles wrote:
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that teh way we like to fuck!

haha i was first
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<< face down, ass up? >>


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sorry!!! 

  i'm doing WWII homework at the moment and it was the first thing that
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            *runs under tables and hides*

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damn iw asnt first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Are you people seriously arguing over Paul Oakenfold being a sell-out? You must be kidding; it's
not even a function of whether he's geting paid or not (and believe me, he is). Think about this
for a second; take, say, something totally disgusting like.. I dunno, a Milli Vanilli cover band.
Never mind that the two are roughly equal talent-wise IMO [actually, milli vanilli at least had
choreography going for them]. The point is that even though the crap cover band will (hopefully)
never achieve anything close to commercial success or mainstream acceptance, I think we can agree
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DJ Assault is the king of ghetto-tek.



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> actually, there's some axiom somewhere that states once hitler or nazis
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> DJ Assault is the king of ghetto-tek.


You need thoap, and warter
thoap and warter
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thoad and warter....




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If yer nice to me I can tape one of his sets off the radio for ya. But, DJ 
Fingers shuts Wax Tax down, in my opinion.

>Now... if you ever find anything by Wax Taxin' Dre... you're in business!
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Subject: [mw] New Label - Substance Music USA

Substance Music USA is a new hard/tech/progressive house label from Chicago.  
The label officially releases its first tracks this wednesday, January 17th, 
2001.  

http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp/eflyers/substance_intro.exe

This is an eflyer I designed for the label's release.  It requires 
Macromedia's Flash 4 player.

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
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>What's the biggest lie you've ever told or gotten away >with?

convincing people that i dont exist.  aaron.

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Subject: [mw] Ang Lee's next film is...

The Incredible Hulk.

wtf?

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> The Incredible Hulk.

crouching incredible, hidden hulk?

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On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:39:18 -0500 (EST), chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

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>> The Incredible Hulk.
>
>crouching incredible, hidden hulk?


Darren Aronofsky is doing the next Batman film too.

All the good directors are getting snatched up
for mainstream projects.  I hope they get good scripts !

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*lol*

Are you thinking of acting in it chris?

- Michael

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> > The Incredible Hulk.
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> crouching incredible, hidden hulk?
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> chris
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Subject: [mw] Questions for everyone

I'm a 31yo "oldschool" (very oldschool) raver, and fomer deejay living in the 
absolutely dead city of South Bend, IN. I'm trying to put together a small 
party in the basement my house -- very small, but excellent for a party like 
this -- at the end of March. This is primarily for recruiting new blood to the 
scene, or at least to let some of my friends let off some steam in a way they 
haven't been exposed to.

Now, here are the questions:

1)Are there any emerging deejays out here who want some exposure? Looking 
primarily for trance, but if you spin something else I'm game. One deejay 
would suffice, but two would make the night a whole lot more interesting.

2)I need advice from those of you who might have experience in this sort of 
thing. If you do, any suggestions?

Where I am so far:
Lights, and a fog machine are being rented. The sound system will be my 
high-end audio system. (For this gig, anything louder will likely break 
things.) All that will needed in that area are the turnables, and a mixer. 
Mixed drinks, and beer will be on hand. I have someone making flyers, as well.

Looking forward to your advice! Thanks!

John-Andrew Murphy
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Subject: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

Here's an odd question for everybody......

What's more important....wind or lettuce and why?

I can't wait to see the responses to this!

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lettuce and why

/me is working hard for "smart ass of the day".

-t

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What's more important....wind or lettuce and why?


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sorry my mail was acting funny!  i'll try to bring us up to speed!

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hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!! 
thanx in advance,
much love,
candice
ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
candy ravers out there?

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i'll just forward this to dica.

kidding,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS

my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
im 14 years old. 

<stuff>

much love,
candice

ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
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>If yer nice to me I can tape one of his sets off the radio for ya. But, DJ 
>Fingers shuts Wax Tax down, in my opinion.

what about gary chandler?!  i used to love that guy!!!  but wax-taxin' dre 
ruled ass too.

mk
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>Darren Aronofsky is doing the next Batman film too.

a lot of people are saying that this will take the batman film franchise 
back in the dark and brooding direction it was supposed to have gone in the 
first place.  i'm personally excited to see what he does with it..."Year 
one", innit?

mk


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Subject: Re: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS

rave? What is that?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Candice Rustong" <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:35 PM
Subject: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS


> hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
> im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
> arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
> raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!! 
> thanx in advance,
> much love,
> candice
> ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
> candy ravers out there?
> 
> __________________________________________________
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From mw-raves-return-14354-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 22:45:32 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

without wind, there could be no lettuce.

what a totally stupid day on mw-raves.  i'm disappointed.

mk

At 04:21 PM 1/15/2001 -0600, Pearon H. wrote:
>Here's an odd question for everybody......
>
>What's more important....wind or lettuce and why?
>
>I can't wait to see the responses to this!
>
>Pearon
>
>
>Shop online without a credit card
>http://www.rocketcash.com
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From mw-raves-return-14355-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 22:46:35 2001
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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

we were just waiting for you, umm, oops, time to go home from work!

-t

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

what a totally stupid day on mw-raves.  i'm disappointed.

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i can't even begin with this, i need to digest it first.

mk

At 02:35 PM 1/15/2001 -0800, Candice Rustong wrote:
>hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
>guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
>im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
>arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
>addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
>raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
>WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
>BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
>thanx in advance,
>much love,
>candice
>ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
>candy ravers out there?
>
>__________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

That's quite obvious, as wind is a part of, affects, and creates most if
not all of our weather........  :D

who needs veggies?!



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>
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>hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
>guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
>im 14 years old.

do you have any pictures of yourself online?

>anyway i just moved to wis. from
>arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
>addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
>raves yet.

where the fuck are your parents?  jesus.  what's up with arizona anyway, 
i've met so many people from out there that started raving when they were 
like 7.  what the fuck.

>SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
>WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
>BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!

are you a cop?  i think you're a cop.

>ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
>candy ravers out there?

candy ravers are too old for you!!!  ;P

mk, can't believe she's *actually* 14
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

lettuce, since it is an organic, and decomposed organics add life to out
soil, adding life to the planet...

Oh, and lettuce adds O2 to the air, something we need to live!!

And adding O2 to the air will only inevitably lead to wind, so the wind
depends on the lettuce...

duuuuuuuuuhhhh...

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> That's quite obvious, as wind is a part of, affects, and creates most if
> not all of our weather........  :D
>
> who needs veggies?!
>
>
>
> "Pearon H." wrote:
>
> > Here's an odd question for everybody......
> >
> > What's more important....wind or lettuce and why?
> >
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From mw-raves-return-14360-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 15 23:10:47 2001
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ok, first no im not a cop. what the heck! im only 14!
gimmie a break lol. second yea i gotz pix. third, az
is full of raves so thats why so many ppl go. and my
parents honestly dont care if i go to raves. and why
are candy ravers too old for me?? and why cant you
believe im 14??
--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
wrote:
> 
> >hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> >guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin
> and
> >im 14 years old.
> 
> do you have any pictures of yourself online?
> 
> >anyway i just moved to wis. from
> >arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> >addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found
> any
> >raves yet.
> 
> where the fuck are your parents?  jesus.  what's up
> with arizona anyway, 
> i've met so many people from out there that started
> raving when they were 
> like 7.  what the fuck.
> 
> >SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> >WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> >BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> 
> are you a cop?  i think you're a cop.
> 
> >ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my
> fellow
> >candy ravers out there?
> 
> candy ravers are too old for you!!!  ;P
> 
> mk, can't believe she's *actually* 14
>
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>what's up with arizona anyway, 
>i've met so many people from out there that started raving when they were 
>like 7.  what the fuck.


Hey!  I was NOT 7!  I was a very almost legal 16 ;p


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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR...Really random question!

darwin is this part of the promotion for your party?

mk

At 06:04 PM 1/15/2001 -0800, darw_n wrote:
>lettuce, since it is an organic, and decomposed organics add life to out
>soil, adding life to the planet...
>
>Oh, and lettuce adds O2 to the air, something we need to live!!
>
>And adding O2 to the air will only inevitably lead to wind, so the wind
>depends on the lettuce...
>
>duuuuuuuuuhhhh...
>
>darw_n
>
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>
>search for "djdarwin" on napster
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wheeeeeeee" <mgoshor1@purdue.edu>
>To: "Pearon H." <superp25@netzero.net>
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>
>
> > That's quite obvious, as wind is a part of, affects, and creates most if
> > not all of our weather........  :D
> >
> > who needs veggies?!
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pearon H." wrote:
> >
> > > Here's an odd question for everybody......
> > >
> > > What's more important....wind or lettuce and why?
> > >
> > > I can't wait to see the responses to this!
> > >
> > > Pearon
> > >
> > > Shop online without a credit card
> > > http://www.rocketcash.com
> > > RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
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I'm pretty sure from my years of knowing michael knight that he's pullin
your leg.  

michael, please fix the KITT car, it's not talking to me again.  and
please forward this to the list.  

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Candice Rustong wrote:

> ok, first no im not a cop. what the heck! im only 14!
> gimmie a break lol. second yea i gotz pix. third, az
> is full of raves so thats why so many ppl go. and my
> parents honestly dont care if i go to raves. and why
> are candy ravers too old for me?? and why cant you
> believe im 14??
> --- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> wrote:
> > 
> > >hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> > >guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin
> > and
> > >im 14 years old.
> > 
> > do you have any pictures of yourself online?
> > 
> > >anyway i just moved to wis. from
> > >arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> > >addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found
> > any
> > >raves yet.
> > 
> > where the fuck are your parents?  jesus.  what's up
> > with arizona anyway, 
> > i've met so many people from out there that started
> > raving when they were 
> > like 7.  what the fuck.
> > 
> > >SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> > >WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> > >BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> > 
> > are you a cop?  i think you're a cop.
> > 
> > >ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my
> > fellow
> > >candy ravers out there?
> > 
> > candy ravers are too old for you!!!  ;P
> > 
> > mk, can't believe she's *actually* 14
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: [mw] Surgeon and Ruskin/Limelight

All,

Ok.. So, somehow, I ended up in New York at the limelight.. This clubs is 
fucked up.. Its crazy.. ACtually.. Its alot of fun.. Anyhow.. Ruskin was 
just plain out awesome.. Surgeon on the other hand.. Was just average.. Who 
would have that..

Anyhow.. Other little tidbits.. For those vinyl types like myself.. Satelite 
records moved, and the new location is much bigger and is much better live 
than ordering online.. CBGB's is kinda lame..

  Now, I am in marlboro, MA.. its blizzrding and cold.. And Im not having 
any fun..

  So.. Blah...

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>are you a cop?  i think you're a cop.


I think she is too.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I remember
*everything* about the first party I went to, especially the name of it.
She told me she can't remember anything.

Must be tragic to suffer from such memory loss at such a young age.

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Subject: [mw] SRR: Breaking vids...

I have a semi-dumb question...I'm looking for some good breakdancing 
videos.  I'm somewhat tired of watching the same floor moves in the few 
videos that I have.  I'm specifically interested in popping-type stuff.  If 
anyone has any recommendations I'd be appreciative. : )

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>ok, first no im not a cop. what the heck! im only 14!

or so you say, CANDICE!  if that *IS* your real name!!

>gimmie a break lol.

lol omg lol!!

>second yea i gotz pix.

where are they?

>third, az is full of raves so thats why so many ppl go.

yeah but i hear there's a lot of prog trance there now *yikes*  please 
refer to the "trance sucks" thread.d

>and my parents honestly dont care if i go to raves.

!bigups responsible parenting.

>and why are candy ravers too old for me??

most of them are like 15-16!!!  too old for *you* !!!

>  and why cant you believe im 14??

i dunno, it was a slow list day.

mk
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who?  who?

mk

At 03:16 PM 1/15/2001 -0800, Deepfog wrote:
>I'm pretty sure from my years of knowing michael knight that he's pullin
>your leg.
>
>michael, please fix the KITT car, it's not talking to me again.  and
>please forward this to the list.

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Subject: [mw] [az-raves] Symmetry is dying :(

Can anyone give me any info on these guys or if this is even for real?  I
don't follow the michigan scene, so I don't know.  Someone on az-raves
started a michigan-raves list on egroups to help raise money for these guys
and I want to know if it is the right thing to do, or if this is just a
scam.  I find it especially interesting that it was sent to a list over
2000 miles away, instead of mw.

fergus


>I'm about to commit internet sacriledge.  I apologize in advance for the
waste of bandwidth.  >The last 3months of my life is at stake though.
>
>***Prelude***
>I have a dream.  I have a dream of a world united under a groove, a track,
a venue, a dj.  My >dream has superceded all other goals that I hoped to
accomplish in the first quarter of my >life.  In last three months, my
dream has slowly but surely taken shape and become a reality.  >My dream is
Symmetry.  A rave in the city of Detroit, mi on Feb24 that I am directly
>ersponsible for.  Beleive it or not, we have a very ailing scene here full
of shady promoters, >medicore partys and very mean people.  There is not
the love of music here that should be >here.  The goodness in this city is
difficult to find but its there, under a rock, behind a >tree.  One must
work a bit to find it but its there.  Symmetry was designed in concept to
be a >party for the people by a member of the people.  
>
>***dilemna***
>This past week, things have progressed at the usual pace.  At the end of
the week everything >fell apart.  Our crew has started to quarrell aomngst
themselves and with me.  Funds slipped >through my fingers...loans were so
close to going through I could taste them.  Funds were to >be provided by
2loans from my bank, which I've been doing business with for 7yrs.  They
>claimed that I haven't been working at my present job long enough.  I've
been here since >april.  
>
>***Solution***
>I've been racking my brain all weekend for a solution to this problem.
The unity in my crew >has been resolved through some fast talking, a few
lectures, a whole lot of convincing that >what we are doing is right, and a
few compromises, heheh.  The money issue continues to be a >problem.
Theres just no funding to be found.  Local companies are not interested in
the rave >scene because of the dangers.  We still party in abandoned
warehouses which commonly get >broken up because of lack of planning on
promoters part.  We have 2clubs here, Motor Lounge >might as well be a
warehouse.  Pure is a drug-haven waiting to get busted up.  My solution to
>our money issues is to go to the people.  I am not asking for a donation
but actually selling >a service.  I will sell to you a copy of our flyer
(preview http://66.41.45.80 ), a What is >Rave list
>sample...
>What is Rave...
>It is Our own world, It is magic, it is awakening. -RosieJD
>It is unparalleled. It is true. It is oneness. -Brian Swiacki
>It is energetic. It is timeless. It is splendor. -Kristen Wolford
>It is future. It is technology. It is life. -Dan Granke
>and a copy of the Raver Manifesto by Omar The Trance Dominator.  I have
been passing out the >What is Rave list for 2months now.  The response has
been amaaaazing!  I have people emailing >me from all over the great lakes
region seeking to add to the list.  I am working on the 2nd >edition right
now :)   You're name will also be added to the Eigen Vector website and
guest >list. All 4 of these items will be sent to who wishes to buy them.
I don't care how much I >sell them for.  If you feel that I deserve 1dollar
or 10dollars or 100dollars, you will be >giving to the best cause.  You
will be investing in an ailing scene.
>
>***Description***
>Here is a description of each room and performers.  
>Room1 will be a techno/trance/house room.  Starting off will be N-durance
and Lb (Pound) doing >a hard trance set.  This is Detroit vs Miami, best
man wins, hehe.  Second will be Devolve.  >This guy is going to be the next
Skylab2000.  His set really gets people moving even when a >headliner
cannot.  Its really something to see.  Whistleboi is up next to lighten up
the mood.  >His house set is slammmin!  Third will be South Beach Fl, own
DJ Merlyn.  ain't nothing like >florida breaks played by a florida dj.  I'm
looking fwd to hearing this.  Chicagos upcomer dj, >Geoffrey will be
playing a progressive house set.  Beauty and elegance describes his set.  A
>realaudio mix can be found at www.geniusinsanity.com  This will also be
his first appearance >in Detroit!  Headlining room1 will be S.O.S., the
toronto trance superstar.  Mind-melting >tracks is this guys trademark, if
you attend expect to have shivers running up and down your >spine his
entire set!  This will also be his first appearance in Detroit
>Room2 will be a chill room.  There has not been a chill room in Detroit in
well, since aug >(when I came out of a 2yr retirement from raves/clubs).
First up in the chill room will be >local dj, Infinity doing a jungle set.
Next up will be Innominate.  Aphex Twin is the closest >desciption to his
music.  All programs on his computer have been custom designed.  He says
>there wasnt a program available that would do what he wanted so he
programmed his own.  >Digital Dragon is another local.  his music canbe
found on mp3.com.  I'm good friends with him >and he fially convinced me to
check his stuff out.  My mouth dropped in awe when the first >track played.
 He does an amazing LivePA.  Local drum n bass dj, Kruse Kontrol is up
next.  >Smoooth as a babys beehind is the best descriptions of Kruse's
sets.  Headlining with be >Toronto, Canadas ambient legend, Sudden.  I
stumbled across their website quite by accident >www.suddenspace.com  After
a few emails, they agreed to come down and play for us.  Not only >do they
do an ambient LivePA, they also do a live video mix.  Check out their
website, you'll >be tantalized, hehe.
>Room1 will be very minimal in decor.  I like it dark and hazy.  You can't
quite make out the >person next to you.  Is he/she human or alien?  We are
looking into getting a big green laser.  >they're expensive though and
those plans are on hold due to lack of funds.  
>Room2 will be lit with blue and yellow spot lights.  It will have 2fog
machines on each side >of the room.  We are creating an effect of walking
through clouds in the sunshine.  There were >also be a bubble machine.
Room2 will feature a 10foot screen for acid movies and live video >mixes.
>
>***Conclusion***
>If this looks like something you would want to donate a few bux for, me
and the Eigen Vector >crew would be much appreciative.  Feel free to
contact any of us.  We will fill you in on any >details that you would wish
for including hotel reservations, travel etc if you would like to >travel
to the great city of Detroit to see this event
>Please send anything to 
>Chris Callegari
>1158 Hunter
>Brighton, MI  48116
>
>Chris Callegari                   Brian
    Julie
>Eigen Vector                     Eye Kandie Productions           Eigen
Vector
>mazzystr@mediaone.net    djn_durance@hotmail.com       jewels00318@aol.com
>248-361.1419
>
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i was just kidding.  

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> who?  who?
> 
> mk
> 
> At 03:16 PM 1/15/2001 -0800, Deepfog wrote:
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> >your leg.
> >
> >michael, please fix the KITT car, it's not talking to me again.  and
> >please forward this to the list.
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> ICQ #27890270 - AIM: michaelknightHHC
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On 01/15/2001 12.33 PM Pearon H. put out the following propaganda:

> Hey,
> 
> Here's a question for everyone.......
> 
> What's the biggest lie you've ever told or gotten away with?


that's actually a toss up as one of my everyday tasks/goals is to tell a
bigger lie than the day before and see who i can get to believe
it...everyone ought to try this, it is good fun!!!


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On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 06:29:15PM -0800, Fergus wrote:
> Can anyone give me any info on these guys or if this is even for real?  I
> don't follow the michigan scene, so I don't know.  Someone on az-raves
> started a michigan-raves list on egroups to help raise money for these guys
> and I want to know if it is the right thing to do, or if this is just a
> scam.  I find it especially interesting that it was sent to a list over
> 2000 miles away, instead of mw.

Yea, I was originally supposed to play this party but then the date got
moved (it was originally supposed to be March 3rd) and a bunch of other
crap...  

The guys seem like really nice guys but I will give no advice as to
whether to give them your money.

Anyway, here was the original info:

<snip>

Information is as follows...
Symmetry - Detroit, MI - 02.24.2001 - 248.361.1419
9141.163.842 - 1002.42.20 - IM, tiorteD - yrtemmyS

Room1  Techno/Trance
SOS - Toronto, Ontario - Trance
DJ Merlyn - SouthBeach, FL - Breaks
Geoffrey - Chicago, IL - Progressive House
Whistleboi - Detroit, MI - Techno
Devolve - Detroit, MI - Trance, LivePA
DJ LB & DJ Ndurance - Detroit vs Miami - hard trance

Room2  Chill Room
Sudden - Toronto, Ontario - Ambient/Acid, LivePA, Live Video Mix
Kruse Kontrol - Detroit, MI - Drum N Bass
Atomly - Chicago, IL - Jungle, LivePA
DJ Melody - Detroit, MI - Downtempo
DJ Infinity - Detroit, MI - Jungle
Innominate - Detroit, MI - AphexTwin stuff

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Kewl beans.

- Michael

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>
> >Darren Aronofsky is doing the next Batman film too.
>
> a lot of people are saying that this will take the batman film franchise
> back in the dark and brooding direction it was supposed to have gone in
the
> first place.  i'm personally excited to see what he does with it..."Year
> one", innit?
>
> mk
>
>
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wow... the lord must really love me to let THIS fall in my lap.

and just when i had givin up hope on this list.

-pm-

DJ .com
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>From: Candice Rustong <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS
>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:35:51 -0800 (PST)
>
>hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
>guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
>im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
>arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
>addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
>raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
>WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
>BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
>thanx in advance,
>much love,
>candice
>ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
>candy ravers out there?
>
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:37:09 -0600, michael knight wrote:

>
>>Darren Aronofsky is doing the next Batman film too.
>
>a lot of people are saying that this will take the batman film franchise 
>back in the dark and brooding direction it was supposed to have gone in the 
>first place.  i'm personally excited to see what he does with it..."Year 
>one", innit?

Yeah.  If anyone can do it, it'll be him.
He's quickly becoming my favorite director.

	- Joe


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Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens of this wretched list.

They aren't even from Wisconsin.

I will drive you and all your friends to all the Wisconsin parties in my big
car.   I'll even buy you beer.

plur,

bill-E



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To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:35 PM
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> hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
> im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
> arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
> raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> thanx in advance,
> much love,
> candice
> ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
> candy ravers out there?
>



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do you still have the white van without any windows?

later on i need help finding my puppy, i think it went into that abandon
building.

-t

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Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens of this wretched list.

They aren't even from Wisconsin.

I will drive you and all your friends to all the Wisconsin parties in my big
car.   I'll even buy you beer.

plur,

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ok, yes candice is my REAL name. thank you very much
lol. and im turning 15 in 2 weeks so then i'll be 15.
ya happy?!?!?! geeze lol. you just have no trust
--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
wrote:
> 
> >ok, first no im not a cop. what the heck! im only
> 14!
> 
> or so you say, CANDICE!  if that *IS* your real
> name!!
> 
> >gimmie a break lol.
> 
> lol omg lol!!
> 
> >second yea i gotz pix.
> 
> where are they?
> 
> >third, az is full of raves so thats why so many ppl
> go.
> 
> yeah but i hear there's a lot of prog trance there
> now *yikes*  please 
> refer to the "trance sucks" thread.d
> 
> >and my parents honestly dont care if i go to raves.
> 
> !bigups responsible parenting.
> 
> >and why are candy ravers too old for me??
> 
> most of them are like 15-16!!!  too old for *you*
> !!!
> 
> >  and why cant you believe im 14??
> 
> i dunno, it was a slow list day.
> 
> mk
>
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Hey everyone! Just finalized and ready to go..DJ Cloudskipper and myself DJ
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geeze stop sayin im'ma freakin cop!! cuz i aint!! and
sorry i dont member the names of these things. i didnt
know i was sposta right it down. but i'll remember
that for next time.
--- Fergus <dj.fergus@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> >are you a cop?  i think you're a cop.
> 
> 
> I think she is too.  I don't know about the rest of
> you, but I remember
> *everything* about the first party I went to,
> especially the name of it.
> She told me she can't remember anything.
> 
> Must be tragic to suffer from such memory loss at
> such a young age.
> 
> fergus ;p
> 
> 
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bill-E thanx! your the only one who isnt being mean to
me. thank you!!! thats sweet.
--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> do you still have the white van without any windows?
> 
> later on i need help finding my puppy, i think it
> went into that abandon
> building.
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Bunyan 
> Subject: Re: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS
> 
> 
> Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens
> of this wretched list.
> 
> They aren't even from Wisconsin.
> 
> I will drive you and all your friends to all the
> Wisconsin parties in my big
> car.   I'll even buy you beer.
> 
> plur,
> 
> bill-E
> 
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Subject: [mw] SUBsequence Fridays in Indy

SUBterror biweekly deprogramming in order to raise SUBcultural conscience through electronic resonance transmissions.  

festivilla.indianapolis.IN

every other friday beginning feb 9

SUBsequence

this will be a low key, low cost, no bullshit series of events featuring the SUBterror DJs as well as local and regional talent, bringing you the best in underground electronic music (both dj sets and live PAs)

THIS IS NOT ABOUT RAVES.  THIS IS ABOUT MUSIC, FRIENDS, FUN & BUILDING A SOCIAL CONSCIENCE THROUGH ART AND MUSIC.

the lineup for the first 6 events is as follows (in order of appearance):

(doors open at 11pm unless stated otherwise)

feb 9  $5
J Cross (d&b) SUBterror
Adam Jay (live techno PA) SUBterror/Azure Records
DJ Oracle (deep techno/electro) Cincy-Databank/djoracle.com
DJ Shiva (techno) SUBterror/The Goddess Complex

feb 23  $5
Gizzmo (d&b) SUBterror
DJ Shiva (techno) SUBterror/The Goddess Complex
Strangeloop (ambient/experimental) Louisville-www.strangeloop.nu
Douglas Wayne (electro) SUBterror

march 9 SUBzero (Adam Jay's birthday!)  $7
J Cross (d&b) SUBterror
Adam Jay (live techno PA) SUBterror/Azure Records
Red Commi Bastard (techno) Tennessee-Zombie Nation
Matt Bandy (house) SUBterror/www.intellifeforms.com
DJ Shiva (techno) SUBterror/The Goddess Complex

march 23  $5
Douglas Wayne (electro) SUBterror
Mateo (music) San Fran, CA-Rhythm Addict
Obeah (d&b) Evansville, IN-Rhythm Addict
DJ Shiva (techno) SUBterror/The Goddess Complex

april 6  $5
Adam Jay (techno) SUBterror/Azure Records
DJ Spahn (d&b) Cincy-Subsonik
React (techno) Cincy-Subsonik
Gizzmo (d&b) SUBterror

april 20 SUBjective (Shiva's birthday!)  $7
(doors open early at 10pm)
Gizzmo (hip hop)  SUBterror
J Cross (d&b) SUBterror
DJ 99 (afro-brazilian nujazz) Philly-Vivid/SUBterror/The
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Trevor Lamont & Matt Bandy (house tag team) Lexington, KY-
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Adam Jay & DJ Shiva (techno tag team) SUBterror
JOHNb (WTF?) BFE,MI-Transmutagen/SUBterror/FUNKenterprises

these are all ages events, but you are expected to act mature & behave responsibly.  safe secure heated venue, clean resrooms, refreshment & snack bar, & 2 free playstation centers.

Info & directions:
SUBterror/The Goddess Complex 317.335.MIXX
Azure Records 317.767.5962
www.SUBterrorHQ.com









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> Here's a question for everyone.......
> What's the biggest lie you've ever gotten away with?

"No, baby, you can't get pregnant the first time"

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> Fuck bob...he is just another lazy man
> I give props to his wife and mom
> those women know the truth

"In reality, a fool is one who believes all women are ladies.

A nigga is one that believes all ladies are bitches, and all bitches are
created equal.

To me all bitches are the same: money hungry scandalous groupie hoes
who're always riding on a nigga'z dick, always in a nigga'z pocket, and
when a nigga runs out of money da bitch is gone in the wind.  To me, all
bitches ain't shit."

- Eazy-E / "One Less Bitch"

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On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Candice Rustong wrote:

-->ok, first no im not a cop. what the heck! im only 14!
-->gimmie a break lol. second yea i gotz pix. third, az
-->is full of raves 

and crystal.

-->so thats why so many ppl go. 

yup.

-->why cant you believe im 14?? 

maybe he can't bring himself to face the truth.


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> > What's the biggest lie you've ever gotten away with?
> 


     "It's NOT TRANCE"

                                             

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Subject: Re: [mw] [az-raves] Symmetry is dying :(

it sounds familiar, tho i haven't tuned into any of the rave-related
detroit lists in a couple months.

you should tell your friends we don't need any more egroups.  we've
got:

partykids@egroups
313kids@egroups
ourhousemusic@egroups
detbeats@egroups
detroitjungle@egroups

plus about 16 or 17 more.  why detroit has become the center of the RR
mailing list universe, i have no idea.  but emailing one of the above
groups about it will probably get you all the answers you need.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Fergus wrote:

-->Can anyone give me any info on these guys or if this is even for real?  I
-->don't follow the michigan scene, so I don't know.  Someone on az-raves
-->started a michigan-raves list on egroups to help raise money for these guys
-->and I want to know if it is the right thing to do, or if this is just a
-->scam.  I find it especially interesting that it was sent to a list over
-->2000 miles away, instead of mw.
-->
-->fergus
-->
-->
-->>I'm about to commit internet sacriledge.  I apologize in advance for the
-->waste of bandwidth.  >The last 3months of my life is at stake though.
-->>
-->>***Prelude***
-->>I have a dream.  I have a dream of a world united under a groove, a track,
-->a venue, a dj.  My >dream has superceded all other goals that I hoped to
-->accomplish in the first quarter of my >life.  In last three months, my
-->dream has slowly but surely taken shape and become a reality.  >My dream is
-->Symmetry.  A rave in the city of Detroit, mi on Feb24 that I am directly
-->>ersponsible for.  Beleive it or not, we have a very ailing scene here full
-->of shady promoters, >medicore partys and very mean people.  There is not
-->the love of music here that should be >here.  The goodness in this city is
-->difficult to find but its there, under a rock, behind a >tree.  One must
-->work a bit to find it but its there.  Symmetry was designed in concept to
-->be a >party for the people by a member of the people.  
-->>
-->>***dilemna***
-->>This past week, things have progressed at the usual pace.  At the end of
-->the week everything >fell apart.  Our crew has started to quarrell aomngst
-->themselves and with me.  Funds slipped >through my fingers...loans were so
-->close to going through I could taste them.  Funds were to >be provided by
-->2loans from my bank, which I've been doing business with for 7yrs.  They
-->>claimed that I haven't been working at my present job long enough.  I've
-->been here since >april.  
-->>
-->>***Solution***
-->>I've been racking my brain all weekend for a solution to this problem.
-->The unity in my crew >has been resolved through some fast talking, a few
-->lectures, a whole lot of convincing that >what we are doing is right, and a
-->few compromises, heheh.  The money issue continues to be a >problem.
-->Theres just no funding to be found.  Local companies are not interested in
-->the rave >scene because of the dangers.  We still party in abandoned
-->warehouses which commonly get >broken up because of lack of planning on
-->promoters part.  We have 2clubs here, Motor Lounge >might as well be a
-->warehouse.  Pure is a drug-haven waiting to get busted up.  My solution to
-->>our money issues is to go to the people.  I am not asking for a donation
-->but actually selling >a service.  I will sell to you a copy of our flyer
-->(preview http://66.41.45.80 ), a What is >Rave list
-->>sample...
-->>What is Rave...
-->>It is Our own world, It is magic, it is awakening. -RosieJD
-->>It is unparalleled. It is true. It is oneness. -Brian Swiacki
-->>It is energetic. It is timeless. It is splendor. -Kristen Wolford
-->>It is future. It is technology. It is life. -Dan Granke
-->>and a copy of the Raver Manifesto by Omar The Trance Dominator.  I have
-->been passing out the >What is Rave list for 2months now.  The response has
-->been amaaaazing!  I have people emailing >me from all over the great lakes
-->region seeking to add to the list.  I am working on the 2nd >edition right
-->now :)   You're name will also be added to the Eigen Vector website and
-->guest >list. All 4 of these items will be sent to who wishes to buy them.
-->I don't care how much I >sell them for.  If you feel that I deserve 1dollar
-->or 10dollars or 100dollars, you will be >giving to the best cause.  You
-->will be investing in an ailing scene.
-->>
-->>***Description***
-->>Here is a description of each room and performers.  
-->>Room1 will be a techno/trance/house room.  Starting off will be N-durance
-->and Lb (Pound) doing >a hard trance set.  This is Detroit vs Miami, best
-->man wins, hehe.  Second will be Devolve.  >This guy is going to be the next
-->Skylab2000.  His set really gets people moving even when a >headliner
-->cannot.  Its really something to see.  Whistleboi is up next to lighten up
-->the mood.  >His house set is slammmin!  Third will be South Beach Fl, own
-->DJ Merlyn.  ain't nothing like >florida breaks played by a florida dj.  I'm
-->looking fwd to hearing this.  Chicagos upcomer dj, >Geoffrey will be
-->playing a progressive house set.  Beauty and elegance describes his set.  A
-->>realaudio mix can be found at www.geniusinsanity.com  This will also be
-->his first appearance >in Detroit!  Headlining room1 will be S.O.S., the
-->toronto trance superstar.  Mind-melting >tracks is this guys trademark, if
-->you attend expect to have shivers running up and down your >spine his
-->entire set!  This will also be his first appearance in Detroit
-->>Room2 will be a chill room.  There has not been a chill room in Detroit in
-->well, since aug >(when I came out of a 2yr retirement from raves/clubs).
-->First up in the chill room will be >local dj, Infinity doing a jungle set.
-->Next up will be Innominate.  Aphex Twin is the closest >desciption to his
-->music.  All programs on his computer have been custom designed.  He says
-->>there wasnt a program available that would do what he wanted so he
-->programmed his own.  >Digital Dragon is another local.  his music canbe
-->found on mp3.com.  I'm good friends with him >and he fially convinced me to
-->check his stuff out.  My mouth dropped in awe when the first >track played.
--> He does an amazing LivePA.  Local drum n bass dj, Kruse Kontrol is up
-->next.  >Smoooth as a babys beehind is the best descriptions of Kruse's
-->sets.  Headlining with be >Toronto, Canadas ambient legend, Sudden.  I
-->stumbled across their website quite by accident >www.suddenspace.com  After
-->a few emails, they agreed to come down and play for us.  Not only >do they
-->do an ambient LivePA, they also do a live video mix.  Check out their
-->website, you'll >be tantalized, hehe.
-->>Room1 will be very minimal in decor.  I like it dark and hazy.  You can't
-->quite make out the >person next to you.  Is he/she human or alien?  We are
-->looking into getting a big green laser.  >they're expensive though and
-->those plans are on hold due to lack of funds.  
-->>Room2 will be lit with blue and yellow spot lights.  It will have 2fog
-->machines on each side >of the room.  We are creating an effect of walking
-->through clouds in the sunshine.  There were >also be a bubble machine.
-->Room2 will feature a 10foot screen for acid movies and live video >mixes.
-->>
-->>***Conclusion***
-->>If this looks like something you would want to donate a few bux for, me
-->and the Eigen Vector >crew would be much appreciative.  Feel free to
-->contact any of us.  We will fill you in on any >details that you would wish
-->for including hotel reservations, travel etc if you would like to >travel
-->to the great city of Detroit to see this event
-->>Please send anything to 
-->>Chris Callegari
-->>1158 Hunter
-->>Brighton, MI  48116
-->>
-->>Chris Callegari                   Brian
-->    Julie
-->>Eigen Vector                     Eye Kandie Productions           Eigen
-->Vector
-->>mazzystr@mediaone.net    djn_durance@hotmail.com       jewels00318@aol.com
-->>248-361.1419
-->>
-->>
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Candice Rustong wrote:

-->bill-E thanx! your the only one who isnt being mean to
-->me. thank you!!! thats sweet.
-->--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
-->> do you still have the white van without any windows?
-->> 
-->> later on i need help finding my puppy, i think it
-->> went into that abandon
-->> building.
-->> 
-->> -t
-->> 
-->> -----Original Message-----
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-->> Subject: Re: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS
-->> 
-->> 
-->> Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens
-->> of this wretched list.
-->> 
-->> They aren't even from Wisconsin.
-->> 
-->> I will drive you and all your friends to all the
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-->> car.   I'll even buy you beer.
-->> 
-->> plur,
-->> 
-->> bill-E
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From mw-raves-return-14389-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 01:59:02 2001
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>> Here's a question for everyone.......
>> What's the biggest lie you've ever gotten away with?
>"No, baby, you can't get pregnant the first time"

I forgot, it's a tie between that and "I didn't know the mothafuckin
bitches was prostitutes!"

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From mw-raves-return-14390-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 02:07:09 2001
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Hey everyone I was on syquil.com last night and found some information about 
a rave in Kearney Nebraska on January 20 I was wondering if anyone new 
anymore information about this one than what they had at syquil.com.

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From mw-raves-return-14391-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 02:32:49 2001
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In a message dated 1/15/01 1:32:44 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
superp25@netzero.net writes:

<< Hey,
 
 Here's a question for everyone.......
 
 What's the biggest lie you've ever told or gotten away with?
  >>


F A K E  I D

I got it when I was 17.. and still have it today..  6yrs later 

THANKSSISSY
=P

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From mw-raves-return-14392-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 02:40:54 2001
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Sad thing is, it's true.  I'm from Wisconsin, and I'm underage.  Bill does
stuff for me all the time  :)

-Jen  :)
----- Original Message -----
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> Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens of this wretched
list.
>
> They aren't even from Wisconsin.
>
> I will drive you and all your friends to all the Wisconsin parties in my
big
> car.   I'll even buy you beer.
>
> plur,
>
> bill-E
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Candice Rustong" <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS
>
>
> > hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> > guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
> > im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
> > arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> > addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
> > raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> > WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> > BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> > thanx in advance,
> > much love,
> > candice
> > ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
> > candy ravers out there?
> >
>
>
>
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From mw-raves-return-14393-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 03:03:37 2001
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michael, calm down....I know the words 14 year old gets you going.

shawne
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> i can't even begin with this, i need to digest it first.
> 
> mk
> 
> At 02:35 PM 1/15/2001 -0800, Candice Rustong wrote:
> >hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> >guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
> >im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
> >arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> >addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
> >raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> >WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> >BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> >thanx in advance,
> >much love,
> >candice
> >ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
> >candy ravers out there?
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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From mw-raves-return-14394-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 03:06:14 2001
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA....hang on, let me catch my
breath......okay...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Candice, welcome to mw-pedophiles

shawne
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> Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens of this wretched
list.
>
> They aren't even from Wisconsin.
>
> I will drive you and all your friends to all the Wisconsin parties in my
big
> car.   I'll even buy you beer.
>
> plur,
>
> bill-E
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Candice Rustong" <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:35 PM
> Subject: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS
>
>
> > hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> > guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
> > im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
> > arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> > addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
> > raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> > WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> > BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> > thanx in advance,
> > much love,
> > candice
> > ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
> > candy ravers out there?
> >
>
>
>
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thank you sixty, for sticking up for me.

also, a little known fact about me is that i do a lot of work with unwed
mothers, getting them their start.

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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To: "William Bunyan" <wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com>; <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
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> Sad thing is, it's true.  I'm from Wisconsin, and I'm underage.  Bill does
> stuff for me all the time  :)
>
> -Jen  :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: William Bunyan <wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:14 PM
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>
>
> > Candice, please don't listen to those other denizens of this wretched
> list.
> >
> > They aren't even from Wisconsin.
> >
> > I will drive you and all your friends to all the Wisconsin parties in my
> big
> > car.   I'll even buy you beer.
> >
> > plur,
> >
> > bill-E
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Candice Rustong" <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
> > To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:35 PM
> > Subject: [mw] PLEASE READ THIS
> >
> >
> > > hey, well i'll start off introducing myself i
> > > guess...my name is Candice and im from wisconsin and
> > > im 14 years old. anyway i just moved to wis. from
> > > arizona and i've been to 2 raves in az and i got
> > > addicted and since i moved to wis. i havent found any
> > > raves yet. SO IF ANYONE IS FROM WISCONSIN AND KNOWS
> > > WHERE AND WHEN THERE WILL BE A RAVE PLEASE WRITE ME
> > > BACK AND TELL ME ANYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
> > > thanx in advance,
> > > much love,
> > > candice
> > > ps. im'ma candy raver. is there any more of my fellow
> > > candy ravers out there?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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>===== Original Message From "William Bunyan" <wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com> =====
>thank you sixty, for sticking up for me.
>
>also, a little known fact about me is that i do a lot of work with unwed
>mothers, getting them their start.
>

Bill-E has done more for me and my child than the father of my beautiful son 
ever could.


#2

-Jen

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From mw-raves-return-14397-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 06:05:22 2001
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New topic:  Possible Reasons for Stevie-T's Return

http://loophole.dhs.org/vote.shtml

Rock Tha Vote

Rave on

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From mw-raves-return-14398-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 06:18:48 2001
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Ken, You cant be serious.... Wax Tax'n will knock off ANY booty DJ in this
city or anywhere for that matter. You, my friend, are mistaken and wrong.

I also think youre a cop!!

derek.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com>
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> If yer nice to me I can tape one of his sets off the radio for ya. But, DJ
> Fingers shuts Wax Tax down, in my opinion.
>
> >Now... if you ever find anything by Wax Taxin' Dre... you're in business!
> >
> >-pm-
> >
>
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From mw-raves-return-14399-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 08:30:32 2001
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Subject: [mw] Turn on, tune in, drop out

I just started a shoutcast station.  So far it's in severe the beta
stages, but if you're bandwidth enabled (working on a 56k stream as we
speak) check it out...

Hit ctrl-L in winamp and open: http://147.134.35.224:8000

Or go to www.shoutcast.com and search for Radio Depth Probe.

Anyway, let me know how it works for you and what you think.  (But no
trance bashing, please... :)  )

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lmao

gt303@juno.com writes:

<< > > What's the biggest lie you've ever gotten away with?
 > 
 
 
      "It's NOT TRANCE" >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
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LA RESISTANCE MUTHA FUCKA!

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--- SLaPiNFuNK@aol.com wrote:
> LA RESISTANCE MUTHA FUCKA!
yea right thats gonna solve anything, No offence but
if you all would have took this stand along time ago
and policed your selves and been alittle more discrete
about your choices in life, none of this shit would
have happen!
Making a bunch of noise in the political and midia
areana is only gonna call more attention to your
selves..I know this being a promoter my self!
I was one of the first people to encourage and suggest
a 17+ age limit. To ban pacifires,masks, and vics
products at parties..To tell folks to minimize their
events so that not only is easyer to break event but
so  you don't have to promote in highly public areas
such as malls...Theres alot of shit that promoters
have done because of their greed to increase their
venues but not thinking about the consquences of their
actions bringing it to the main stream...
not saying thats its entirly the promoters fault its
all of our faults..from the promoters greed, to the
Dj's need for world wide fame, the party kids blind
actions and behavores and to the media's need for its
next hot story..Its sad really!
Only you  can fix this shit and bring it back to the
way it was!
Just Think about the scene before you think of your
self indulgence!
Calling more attention to your selves in the Eyes of
the media and politics is only gonna make things
worse!
so far it hasn't done any good so why continue???
do shit differently..respect yourself, don't always
expect the general public to except you because
they'll never do it!
Just fucking think before you pop an e-pill or throw a
party or anounce your self to the general public!
Peace 

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Thank you for seeing things how I do.. 
Im a dj blane doll, living in a cartoon world...

In a message dated 01/16/2001 09:03:37, liqueurish@hotmail.com writes:

<< vive la resistance!
   -the mole

i always turn to south park for my inspirational quotes.

-shadie beth :)
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Subject: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] Oakie]

man, funk dat.  i'm usually as uptight as the next head about cats sellin=
g
out, but i think moby's new album was a groundbreaking and daring attempt=
 that
paid off.  sure you can take shots at music that is so easily accessable =
and
appealing to many people, but it takes a ton of talent to put that stuff
together as well as he did.  back when "animal rights" came out in 1996, =
i was
totally let down because i wanted more of his techno.  with one shot he
dethroned himself as "techno god" and blasted himself out of the mainstre=
am
with an album of depressing guitar hardcore.  as much as i didn't like it=
,
i've come to respect that moby makes the music he wants to make, and he d=
oes
it well.  i don't think there'll be another album made like "play" (i hop=
e
not) but i'm glad he did it.  ....and it definately helps that i don't wa=
tch
TV or listen to the radio - i'd probably hate moby, too.

peace,
catnap


<chrise@pubnix.org> wrote:
> > example: I've always liked Moby, and I know other
> > people who have also... =

> > but I also know people who have stopped listening to
> > his music recently, =

> > claiming he's too 'mainstream'.  I don't think music
> > should be about image.

maybe they've stopped listening to him recently because his recent music
sucks ass?



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moby has made tunes that will be eternal rave anthems, and for that has 
garnered the respect of many, including myself.

moby has made horrible pseduo-indie-punk-flavoured-rock that has made many 
people laugh, including myself.

moby has made crappy techno that  has made many people change the channel, 
including myself.

moby has featured hot girls in his videos, like christina ricci and gwen 
stefani, that have given many guys erections, including myself.

basically, the guy has made his artistic contribution.  i can't fault him 
for trying to get paid at this point.  we all need to make a living - why 
not live as good as you can?


i don't fault oakenfold et al for trying to get paid, either.  i just think 
they suck.

bling bling,
mk


At 08:22 AM 1/16/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>man, funk dat.  i'm usually as uptight as the next head about cats selling
>out, but i think moby's new album was a groundbreaking and daring attempt that
>paid off.  sure you can take shots at music that is so easily accessable and
>appealing to many people, but it takes a ton of talent to put that stuff
>together as well as he did.  back when "animal rights" came out in 1996, i was
>totally let down because i wanted more of his techno.  with one shot he
>dethroned himself as "techno god" and blasted himself out of the mainstream
>with an album of depressing guitar hardcore.  as much as i didn't like it,
>i've come to respect that moby makes the music he wants to make, and he does
>it well.  i don't think there'll be another album made like "play" (i hope
>not) but i'm glad he did it.  ....and it definately helps that i don't watch
>TV or listen to the radio - i'd probably hate moby, too.

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Clocking in at 170 bpm's, Entro offers some slightly lighter business.  "Goal State" was birthed from a recurring addiction to saturday morning hindi videos as well as a constant schedule of norton utilities's speed disk.  The result can be heard below:

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Subject: Re: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...

Fingers spins jungle in his booty sets. That's all it takes to win me over.


>
>Ken, You cant be serious.... Wax Tax'n will knock off ANY booty DJ in this
>city or anywhere for that matter. You, my friend, are mistaken and wrong.
>
>I also think youre a cop!!
>
>derek.
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>
> > If yer nice to me I can tape one of his sets off the radio for ya. But, 
>DJ
> > Fingers shuts Wax Tax down, in my opinion.
> >
> > >Now... if you ever find anything by Wax Taxin' Dre... you're in 
>business!
> > >
> > >-pm-
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--- simon kellman <mechaproductions@usa.net> wrote:
> man, funk dat.  i'm usually as uptight as the next
> head about cats selling
> out, but i think moby's new album was a
> groundbreaking and daring attempt that
> paid off.  sure you can take shots at music that is
> so easily accessable and
> appealing to many people, but it takes a ton of
> talent to put that stuff
> together as well as he did.  

doesn't mean everyone has to like it.

WHY is that one simple little fact so hard for people
to understand.

it's not rocket science,
pixie


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--- "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Fingers spins jungle in his booty sets. That's all
> it takes to win me over.

HEY KEN!

DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT ONE JUNGLE RECORD?

YOU KNOW?! THE ONE THAT YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO FOR
HOURS ON END? LIKE, 12 HOURS ON END?





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Subject: Re: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...

The one that goes: boom.. click... boom boom... Click?

>
>HEY KEN!
>
>DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT ONE JUNGLE RECORD?
>
>YOU KNOW?! THE ONE THAT YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO FOR
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Subject: Re: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...

the one you and derek and keith made me ted and chad
and i listen to for 6 hours while you guys cleaned
house and moved stuff.

looooooooooooooop
pixiepixiepixie.....

--- "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> 
> >
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Subject: Re: [mw] Lemme see dat bootay bounce...

Ummm... That wouldve been the ODB album...


derek.


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> the one you and derek and keith made me ted and chad
> and i listen to for 6 hours while you guys cleaned
> house and moved stuff.
> 
> looooooooooooooop
> pixiepixiepixie.....
> 
> --- "Hugh G. Blaze" <hughblaze@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > The one that goes: boom.. click... boom boom...
> > Click?
> > 
> > >
> > >HEY KEN!
> > >
> > >DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT ONE JUNGLE RECORD?
> > >
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> > >HOURS ON END? LIKE, 12 HOURS ON END?
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--- Derek Plaslaiko <derek@datavibe.net> wrote:
> Ummm... That wouldve been the ODB album...

*sigh*

nevermind.
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Subject: [mw] CINCINNATI TONIGHT - GRAVITYBASS - Tuesday, Jan 16, 2001

Zeropoint Records and the Gravitybass Federation bring you:

Gravitybass.  Cincinnati's one and only Drum & Bass Night

w/ DJs:

Spahn > Subsonik Productions
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DJ Ian B

Admission is $3.  Open 10pm - 2am.  Gravitybass is held at Top Cats.
2820 Vine St, Cincinnati ,Ohio

For Directions call: 513.281.2005
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Next Week:  January 23, 2001


A special 3-man tagteam from some of the original jungle selectas.

DAISY, MINDCANDY & TROLL

These three will bring you a specail set of some of the oldskool
breakbeat/hardcore sounds!  This set is not to be missed!

Also appearing:

Jim Van Eaton > Live D&B PA
CPV vs MPH > Cincinnati Speed Crew


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Subject: [mw] Fwd: ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu




>From: John Berman <john@techgallery.com>
>Subject: ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:26:24 -0500
>
>This thursday - jan 18th
>check out a special live tech-house performance and an interview with
>[infinite grey - live PA] from 8-9 pm
>and then a set and an interview with downtempo/amient guru [kenya
>dubois] from 9-10 pm
>at http://www.bearcast.uc.edu
>
>***requires windows media player - get a copy at
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>
>---------------
>
>Tune in every Thursday, 8-10 p.m. for
>ELECTRONIC FUSION
>with Tanya and B
>
>Jan. 18 -- Infinite Grey
>                 Kenya DuBois
>Jan. 25 -- Matthew Brown
>                 G. P.
>Feb. 1 -- React
>                Adam Jensen
>
>Live internet broadcast at:
>www.bearcast.uc.edu
>the University of Cincinnati's new student radio station
>
>If you are an electronic music dj/artist and are interested in being on
>the air please
>email us at electronic_fusion@yahoo.com
>
>Please forward this to anyone you think may be interested.  Hope you
>enjoy!
>
>
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Subject: [mw] ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu

This Thursday - January 18th

Check out a special live Tech-House performance and an interview with
[Infinite Grey - live PA] from 8-9 pm 
 
and then 

A set and an interview with Ambient/Chill Guru 
[Kenya DuBois] from 9-10 pm 

at

 http://www.bearcast.uc.edu

***requires windows media player - get a copy at
http://windowsmedia.com/redir/download

---------------

Tune in every Thursday, 8-10 p.m. for
ELECTRONIC FUSION
with Tanya and B

Jan. 18 -- Infinite Grey
                Kenya DuBois

Jan. 25 -- Matthew Brown
                G. P.

Feb. 1 -- React
               Adam Jensen

Live internet broadcast at:
www.bearcast.uc.edu
the University of Cincinnati's new student radio station

If you are an electronic music dj/artist and are interested in being on
the air please email us at electronic_fusion@yahoo.com

Please forward this to anyone you think may be interested.  
Hope you enjoy!

...............................................................
Distorted Grooves 
www.distortedgrooves.com
deep-downtempo-atmospheric-ambient
www.mp3.com/stations/distortedgrooves 





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Subject: [mw] sight...

27 : jan : 2001

One thing seems to always follow another in a creative sense...

...in the dance community, it always seems to be visual stimuli following
acoustics.  But again, an inexperienced organizer may over do it, cluttering
the senses...

..distract.

There is another way of course.  You could find the perfect lighting
frequency, and you could use only that frequency...

...allow minds to drift and create.

There is one other form of visual "aid", that is the device in which
projects information, a Signal.  One way to do it is to find the most
interesting and informative aspect of the event, and focus only on that...

...learn.

27 : jan : 2001

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

search for "djdarwin" on napster
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> This is an event that could ONLY happen here.  This
> is a one time 
> opportunity to see a side of a Detroit legend only
> spoken about in nostalgic 
> terms

...and how many times have we heard that before?




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From mw-raves-return-14420-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 16 22:02:33 2001
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heheheh i saw him!  i saw jeff mills!!

i rule!!

mk, didn't pay 30 dollars
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YBWTH?

mk

At 03:40 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, subsonik productions wrote:



>>From: John Berman <john@techgallery.com>
>>Subject: ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu
>>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:26:24 -0500
>>
>>This thursday - jan 18th
>>check out a special live tech-house performance and an interview with
>>[infinite grey - live PA] from 8-9 pm
>>and then a set and an interview with downtempo/amient guru [kenya
>>dubois] from 9-10 pm
>>at http://www.bearcast.uc.edu
>>
>>***requires windows media player - get a copy at
>>http://windowsmedia.com/redir/download
>>
>>---------------
>>
>>Tune in every Thursday, 8-10 p.m. for
>>ELECTRONIC FUSION
>>with Tanya and B
>>
>>Jan. 18 -- Infinite Grey
>>                 Kenya DuBois
>>Jan. 25 -- Matthew Brown
>>                 G. P.
>>Feb. 1 -- React
>>                Adam Jensen
>>
>>Live internet broadcast at:
>>www.bearcast.uc.edu
>>the University of Cincinnati's new student radio station
>>
>>If you are an electronic music dj/artist and are interested in being on
>>the air please
>>email us at electronic_fusion@yahoo.com
>>
>>Please forward this to anyone you think may be interested.  Hope you
>>enjoy!
>>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu

YBWTH = ?




>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>To: "subsonik productions" 
><subsonik_pro@hotmail.com>,mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Fwd: ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:52:55 -0600
>
>YBWTH?
>
>mk
>
>At 03:40 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, subsonik productions wrote:
>
>
>
>>>From: John Berman <john@techgallery.com>
>>>Subject: ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu
>>>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:26:24 -0500
>>>
>>>This thursday - jan 18th
>>>check out a special live tech-house performance and an interview with
>>>[infinite grey - live PA] from 8-9 pm
>>>and then a set and an interview with downtempo/amient guru [kenya
>>>dubois] from 9-10 pm
>>>at http://www.bearcast.uc.edu
>>>
>>>***requires windows media player - get a copy at
>>>http://windowsmedia.com/redir/download
>>>
>>>---------------
>>>
>>>Tune in every Thursday, 8-10 p.m. for
>>>ELECTRONIC FUSION
>>>with Tanya and B
>>>
>>>Jan. 18 -- Infinite Grey
>>>                 Kenya DuBois
>>>Jan. 25 -- Matthew Brown
>>>                 G. P.
>>>Feb. 1 -- React
>>>                Adam Jensen
>>>
>>>Live internet broadcast at:
>>>www.bearcast.uc.edu
>>>the University of Cincinnati's new student radio station
>>>
>>>If you are an electronic music dj/artist and are interested in being on
>>>the air please
>>>email us at electronic_fusion@yahoo.com
>>>
>>>Please forward this to anyone you think may be interested.  Hope you
>>>enjoy!
>>>
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yeah but where's the hoochies?

i mean hardcore!

mk

At 05:09 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, subsonik productions wrote:
>YBWTH = ?

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Subject: Re: [mw] I find this *very* funny

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:41:55 -0800 (PST), pixie wrote:

>> This is an event that could ONLY happen here.  This
>> is a one time 
>> opportunity to see a side of a Detroit legend only
>> spoken about in nostalgic 
>> terms
>
>...and how many times have we heard that before?


Not only that, but unless he is playing live,
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Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 16/01/01 22:31:44, TekkgirIie a =E9crit :

<<I *think* you are on the 313 list, but there was a post about mills playin=
g=20
in detroit March 1st at the State Theater....  =20

Just writing to ask if it is indeed confirmed.


thanks in advance

Lorie>>

yes it's confirm...=20

regards,=20


fdjaaleb@aol.com

Out Soon Booking C/O Frederic Djaaleb=20
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Subject: [mw] mills in detroit

$30? that's too bad.

count me out.

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From: subsonik productions <subsonik_pro@hotmail.com>
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is this event confirmed?

forwarded message:
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Subject: [313] THE WIZARD-Jeff Mills-MARCH 1
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:48:45

YIN-SIGHT MANAGEMENT AND BTM PRODUCTIONS are pleased to present

M E C C A/2 0 0 1

THE WIZARD--    JEFF MILLS

Thursday, MARCH 1, 2001

State Theatre
2115 Woodward Ave.

D E T R O I T

An odyssey of sound ranging from electro/bass through hip hop to techno
and
beyond....

Tickets:  $30   Ticketmaster-248-645-6666

This is an event that could ONLY happen here.  This is a one time
opportunity to see a side of a Detroit legend only spoken about in
nostalgic
terms

C-U-THERE

_____________


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yes it's confirm.

Out Soon Booking C/O Frederic Djaaleb
135, Rue D'Aboukir - F. 75 002 Paris
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wasnt he at step into a world?


michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< heheheh i saw him!  i saw jeff mills!! >>


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In a message dated 1/16/01 5:38:58 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< $30? that's too bad.
 
 count me out. >>



honestly.. if this *REALLY* ends up taking place..even if I think he is a 
hukker and say im not going.... Im sure I will be there.... along with the 
other 234890348902890 millshaters.

but the key word is **

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>wasnt he at step into a world?

ew wasn't that a wilhelm k party?!  ew!!!!

no, the only MW promoter that ever got him to play was richie hawtin.

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In a message dated 1/16/01 6:20:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< no, the only MW promoter that ever got him to play was richie hawtin.
  >>


huh?


the last time mills was in the mw.. to my knowledge was at the black nation 
event in 98 .. sector 616.. and that had nothing to do with hawtin..... uhhh 
at least I dont think

who cares anyway.... he will prolly cancel again because of poor presales.

we'll see .. im just not holding my breath

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Subject: [mw] genre page

any1 know hte link to some genre definiton pages?

i got some 12 y/o raver chick i wanna impress 

*sarcasm*
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Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:

> wasnt he at step into a world?

Huh huh huhuhuh.. he said 'step into a world'.



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Subject: [mw] Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio

  Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
 purchase presale early to avoid waiting in line 
 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
 The Other Side.  (513) 671-5999
 Culture 7  (614) 297-0998
 
 Tons of Free give aways. Arrive Early
 
 Guest list is limited. Call (513) 272-2489 by Jan 20th
 
 This event is being held in a 100% Legal,Clean,Heated Venue.
 Do Not bring Drugs.Alcohal,Weapons,Markers or Bad Vibes
 Firm and Friendly Security will be on hand all night
 There will be Food and Drinks for sale all night
 
 Dj Hardware
 Hardware World/1Groove.com/FL
 
 DJ Hardware has started his mission to conquer the world. From spinning at 
remote outdoor raves, and warehouse parties to headlining major events across 
the globe. Hardware is taking his unique style of mixing to the masses. 
Whether it's hard trance, funky breaks or acid-house, he's a force to be 
reckoned with when it comes to energizing a crowd. 
 
 
 AK1200 
 P.A.M/Orlando,FL
 
 A true pioneer in  Drum an Bass in the US and UK.from being the first 
American DJ to play on UK pirate radio.To the '96 release of "you hear me 
talking". a breakthrough DnB tack for the masses. He continues to headline 
clubs and raves Worldwide. Dont miss the Sweet DnB sounds AK1200
 
 Dj Bam Bam
 UC music/Contaminated/Chicago IL
 
 Whether its in the studio making rave anthems and setting new standards in 
producing or dropping the tight blends that make the dancefloor bounce with 
the  nasty scratching that leaves onlookers' jaws drop, DJ Bam Bam has 
established himself to be a top DJ not to be missed
 
 Twilight Sleep  Live P.A
 Zeropoint Records/Cincinnati
 
 This 5 piece live drum an bass orchestra is gaining world recognition at 
warp speed.The only thing better than hearing these guys play is watching 
them do it Live!!!
 
 Nathan Profit   Live P.A
 Two Tigers/Columbus
 
 Creating some of the most amazing trance sounds in the Midwest.come watch as 
he opens your mind,body and soul Live!!!
 
 Infinite Grey  Live P.A
 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
back to start off the year.Check the tech house wizard as he brings it back 
Live!!!
 
 Negative Zero  Live P.A
 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
 Columbus's best kept secret. This is a debut performance you dont want to 
miss. as he produces his own unique hybrid of trance and breaks.
 
 React
 Subsonik/Cincinnati
 
 React is the man behind Subsonik and driving force in the underground. come 
check out his funky, pounding techno selections that rock the crowd into a 
frenzy.
 
 Matt Freeman
 Octane/Dayton
 
 Finishing up a new mix cd.Matts versatile House sounds and skills take him 
to Detroit for New Years and Australia in April and then off on a US summer 
tour.Come Matt as he brings down the House!
 
 Main Info Line:
 (513) 588 9479
 e mail: jomamaproductions@cinci.rr.com
 
 Support Lines:
 
 Two Tigers (614) 232-6677 -Columbus
                  (216) 485-7777 -Cleveland
 FlashPoint (937) 229-9203 -Dayton
 Subsonik (513) 682-3282 -Cincy
 Digital 54  (216) 556-2969 -Cleveland
 
 Check Out our website
 www.jomamaproductions.homestead.com
 
 www.2tigers.org
 www.hyperreal.org
 subsonik.linenoiz.com
 
 madd thanks to anyone who has ever supported us


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
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Try these....
http://www.plato.nl/e-primer/
http://www.netradio.com/learn/electronic_dance/index.html



At 06:35 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:
>any1 know hte link to some genre definiton pages?
>
>i got some 12 y/o raver chick i wanna impress
>
>*sarcasm*
>Gabe
>Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam
>www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
>Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: [mw] I find this *very* funny

no.


>From: Trancedanz@aol.com
>To: michael@happy.hardcorps.org, TekkgirIie@aol.com, 
>mw-raves@hyperreal.org,        indybassnet@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [mw] I find this *very* funny
>Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 18:07:15 EST
>
>wasnt he at step into a world?
>
>
>michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
>
><< heheheh i saw him!  i saw jeff mills!! >>
>
>
>Gabe
>Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam
>www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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Subject: Re: [mw] Even MORE funny.

well, jeff mills' agent's email address is on the list of headers, so im 
willing to wager a safe assumption on it being legit.  cheers, aaron.

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Subject: Re: [mw] I find this *very* funny

michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
<< no, the only MW promoter that ever got him to play was richie hawtin>>

TekkgirIie@aol.com replies:
>the last time mills was in the mw.. to my knowledge was at the black nation
>event in 98 .. sector 616.. and that had nothing to do with hawtin..... 
>uhhh
>at least I dont think

Mills played at Sickness and Recovery which was definately a Richie Hawtin 
production... As well as Sector 616 - a Jay Denham endeavor..

I believe he also played a party in Minneapolis or Wisconsin several years 
ago... maybe 93-94? I think the name was Flower Power 2000 Or something to 
that effect. Can anyone confirm?

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Subject: Re: [mw] Even MORE funny.

In a message dated 1/16/01 7:42:42 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com writes:

<< well, jeff mills' agent's email address is on the list of headers, so im 
 willing to wager a safe assumption on it being legit.  cheers, aaron.
  >>


Yes, I know that is his agents email.. I wrote him to ask if it was confirmed.

I am not saying it is not *legit* right now.. but a lot could change in a 
month.

=P

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Subject: Re: [mw] I find this *very* funny

He also played in Detroit at a party entitled "Berlin" thrown by Terrence
Dixon.
That was in 95

derek.



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> michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
> << no, the only MW promoter that ever got him to play was richie hawtin>>
>
> TekkgirIie@aol.com replies:
> >the last time mills was in the mw.. to my knowledge was at the black
nation
> >event in 98 .. sector 616.. and that had nothing to do with hawtin.....
> >uhhh
> >at least I dont think
>
> Mills played at Sickness and Recovery which was definately a Richie Hawtin
> production... As well as Sector 616 - a Jay Denham endeavor..
>
> I believe he also played a party in Minneapolis or Wisconsin several years
> ago... maybe 93-94? I think the name was Flower Power 2000 Or something to
> that effect. Can anyone confirm?
>
> Leigh
>
> Devil Girl ~fine hard techno since 1994
> ==========================================================
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><< no, the only MW promoter that ever got him to play was richie hawtin>>

and by "ever" i mean "since mid-1994".

>Mills played at Sickness and Recovery which was definately a Richie Hawtin 
>production... As well as Sector 616 - a Jay Denham endeavor..

whoa i forgot about that one!  my bad!

mk

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>and by "ever" i mean "since mid-1994".

and "to my knowledge".

mk, doesn't remember "berlin"

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From mw-raves-return-14442-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 01:17:16 2001
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http://urban.yahoo.com/urban/music_news/wall_of_sound/story.html?s=n/wall_of 
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From mw-raves-return-14443-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 01:27:09 2001
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> This Thursday - January 18th
> 
> Check out a special live Tech-House performance and
this is not tech-house.

chris ege says it's tech-emo.

i think he's right.
pixie


> an interview with
> [Infinite Grey - live PA] from 8-9 pm 
>  
> and then 
> 
> A set and an interview with Ambient/Chill Guru 
> [Kenya DuBois] from 9-10 pm 
> 
> at
> 
>  http://www.bearcast.uc.edu
> 
> ***requires windows media player - get a copy at
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From mw-raves-return-14444-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 01:31:51 2001
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--- pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> and
> this is not tech-house.

nor is it thursday.

shut up chris.
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Subject: Re: [mw] I find this *very* funny

It was in a 400 or so size space referred to as Sam & Hollie's space. There
were a total of 3 parties there. :

1: berlin
2: the cheshire April Fools Day party
3: Luna : Full Moon Fever, which would be the last party there... Wouldve
been sick though!


derek.
rememebers Berlin very well! :)



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>
> >and by "ever" i mean "since mid-1994".
>
> and "to my knowledge".
>
> mk, doesn't remember "berlin"
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Subject: [mw] new features - groupedia

so, i've just added mw-raves to this site...
http://www.groupedia.com

has some interesting features that may be fun to try out.  basically, the
whole group can organize posts and create documents and links and stuff.

check it out... hope you can make use of it.

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> well, jeff mills' agent's email address is on the list of headers, so im 
> willing to wager a safe assumption on it being legit.  cheers, aaron.

it was "legit" last year too, to the point that they were selling tickets
at ticketmaster.

unfortunately, not enough people bought presales to please the almighty
mills, and he cancelled.

"legit" has nothing to do with whether or not he actually performs.


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Subject: [mw] wizard set

http://www.biostat.wisc.edu/~rose/house/wizard1.ram

think i posted this during the last wizard fiasco... 
30 bucks is pretty steep, but i think i'd go if i had that kind of money
burning a hole in my pocket.

while i wasn't impressed with his set at sek616, i think this would be a
very different thing... maybe worth it to give mills the benefit of my
doubts one last time.

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Subject: [mw] Kearney, NE Rave

Yeah... what's up with this?

Is it worth the 3 hour drive from Omaha?

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From mw-raves-return-14450-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 03:25:34 2001
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it's a big hoax & certainly nothing to concern yourselves with. yes, it's just a weather balloon
folks. everyone please remain in your homes. 



                   there's no such thing as Martians,


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||unfortunately, not enough people bought presales to please the almighty
||mills, and he cancelled

 I think that was a decision on the part of the venue owners, rather than this supposed "Mills"
person... 


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Subject: [mw] Wishing on a Star

Don't forget it's this saturday!


         Wishing Well Productions presents.......

         Wishing On A Star in Dayton, Ohio featuring...

         Richard Humpty Vission(Los Angeles, CA)-currently in the 
studio working on
         a remix with Madonna for her new cd coming out soon.

         Dj Groove(Los Angeles, CA)-currently on his North American 
tour supporting
         his new compilation on Max Music entitled "Essentials".

         Freaky Flow and MC Flipside(Toronto)-these are just bad and if you 
have
         not seen them before make sure you check this duo out on this special
         coming to you straight from Toronto.

         Kos-(West Parkersburg, WV)"The Turntable Terrorist" If you 
have not caught
         this guy's set at a party yet make sure you do it soon. As up 
and coming
         as he is, he won't be in this area much longer. This is the most
         underrated dj in the midwest. You have heard of him, but have you 
seen
         him, make sure you do on January 20th.

         Dj Ruckus-(Detroit, MI)This guy is a resident DJ at John 
Aquaviva's club
         "Lush" and is about to rip it up.

         Ashley Power-(Nashville, TN)This awesome trance DJ has 3 cd's 
out and 12
         years experience. If you have heard him play or caught one of 
his sets the
         tearstains on your cheeks should say it all. This guy is pure bliss.

         React-(Cincinnati)This guy is an awesome promoter/dj that has 
made names
         for himself all over the Midwest already. His techno will 
"reset" your jaw
         after hearing him rock the tables.

         Derrick B-(Lexington, KY)Derrick is coming back to Cincy to show why 
he
         has played all over the world and rocked heads with his awesome house
         music.

         Matt Freeman-(Dayton, OH)This awesome producer just got done 
with a track
         in which Paul Johnson and Paul Birken were involved. Give it up for 
the
         hometown favorite that just brought you Speaker Phreakin'.

         Notty-(U.K., Indianapolis)Notty has made a name for himself here in 
the
         states with his trance and also his phatass parties like the 
one he just
         through, Destination. Make sure you check him out, he doesn't have 
just
         parties under his sleeve.

         Mack Brassel-(Cincinnati)aka "the brain twister" this will be his 
first
         performance at a party in five years. Watch out, you might get 
twisted.

         Faelix-(Cincinnati)This cat is the most up and coming DJ in 
area. Trance,
         hard house it doesn't matter, he will warp that mind of yours 
and make you
         dance.

         Cyberspeed-(Cincinnati)Progressive house and breaks-----------Florida
         Style.

         LMNO-(Cincinnati)This boy scratched it up with DJ Craze the 
last time he
         was here. Make sure you check this record rippin kid out.

         Vixen-(Nashville, TN)If you didn't get to catch this girlie's 
set out at
         Teknosaurus 7 you missed it. She tore it up just she is going to do 
at
         this awesome event. By the way, she doesn't look too shabby
         either-haha-this girl is hot.

         Runtrane-(Lexington, KY)This young gun will be making his first party
         performance ever and is about to tear up some records with his drum 
and
         bass scratching ability.

         The BzA-(Elizabethtown, KY)A hip-hop scratching maniac with 12 years
         experience making his first big party debut.

         <><><><><><><><><>Awesome sound and lighting brought to you by Xtreme
         Sound
         from Detroit, MI.
         <><><><><><><><><>Two large video screens brought to you by 
VJ Jbrick from
         Pittsburgh, PA.
         <><><><><><><><><>Two massage tables and two professional 
masseuses will
         be
         on hand to take care of those dancing aches brought to you by 
Full Circle
         out
         of Lexington, Ky.

         XXXXXXXXPresale Tickets available at the following 
locationsXXXXXXXXXXXXX
         Clubhead Records          Better Days Records
         Main St.                        Louisville, KY
         Cincinnati, OH                502-456-1554
         513-665-9999
         XXXXXXXXPresale Tickets are $20 available until January 
5thXXXXXXXXXXXXX
         Admission at the door is $25 with clothing or canned food
         donation-------------

         ****If you have questions or comments please leave a message 
on the Wish
         Line
         and also check there a few days before the party for directions.
         859-727-WISH


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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>> well, jeff mills' agent's email address is on the list of headers, so im 
>> willing to wager a safe assumption on it being legit.  cheers, aaron.

>it was "legit" last year too, to the point that they were selling tickets
>at ticketmaster.

>unfortunately, not enough people bought presales to please the almighty
>mills, and he cancelled.

>"legit" has nothing to do with whether or not he actually performs.


----well fine then, im not mr know it all...its cool.  i played the game and 
i lost.  jeff mills 2k1, braww...aaron.

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Subject: Re: [mw] Wishing on a Star

:          Vixen-(Nashville, TN)If you didn't get to catch this girlie's
: set out at
:          Teknosaurus 7 you missed it. She tore it up just she is going to
do
: at
:          this awesome event. By the way, she doesn't look too shabby
:          either-haha-this girl is hot.
:

/me turns and looks for shiva
shall i take this one of would you like to ??? ;-)

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>
>           By the way, she doesn't look too shabby
>          either-haha-this girl is hot.
> 
>       > 
>> 
                               is this a joke?

                                        balls in mouth?

                                                      

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I wouldn't count on it.  The combination of jeff mills and detroit's
sheistiest promoter can only bear disappointment.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

YIN-SIGHT MANAGEMENT AND BTM PRODUCTIONS are pleased to present

M E C C A/2 0 0 1

THE WIZARD--    JEFF MILLS

Thursday, MARCH 1, 2001

State Theatre
2115 Woodward Ave.


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Subject: [mw] Wednesday night at AcTiV8 -- DnB Night f. Kid Entropy!

This wednesday night, January 17th, 2001, DNA Labs and Denny's Creature bring 
some rockin' drum n' bass to Dayton.....

K I D   E N T R O P Y (semiconscious media - Chicago)

D A N N O  (collective intelligence/dna labs - Dayton) v.  D E R E K   J O H 
N S O N (3xp/on the floor - Columbus)

H I R O C K E M  v.  O E B  (invisible sounds - Dayton)

D J   P H R E N Z Y (denny's creature/world dj alliance - Dayton) [w/ Kid 
Entropy on the mic]

D J   W H I T T  (invisible sounds - Dayton) [w/ Kwest-On on the mic]

D A N D A V E (Indianapolis)

D I G I T A L   P S Y K O S I S  (collective intelligence/denny's 
creature/dna labs - Cincinnati)   v.   Z E R O 9 Z E R O (amtrack death 
squad/pimp-o-tron - Cincinnati)

This will be a release party for Danno's new CD.

More free giveaways from junglist.com, and semiconscious media.

$5 cover, 18+
Doors open at 8, bass kix in at 9.  We go home when we get tired.
For more info:    dna labs - 513.588.0038           sirens niteclub - 
937.866.6699
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp


meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
Denny's Creature Productions - Activ8
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/soniqstylz
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http://www.substancemusicusa.com
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Subject: [mw] best lie

><< > > What's the biggest lie you've ever gotten away with?

it's a tie between:

"I won't cum in your mouth"

and

"Sorry, but I promise I won't tell the mw-raves list that I came in your 
mouth, Angela"
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 Jeff Mills? In *Detroit*, of all places?!? Oh, shit, man...$30 is very reasonable. I've paid much more for shitter raves.

Any of the MN contingent interested in a road trip?

erikka


  TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote: 
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<< $30? that's too bad.

count me out. >>



honestly.. if this *REALLY* ends up taking place..even if I think he is a 
hukker and say im not going.... Im sure I will be there.... along with the 
other 234890348902890 millshaters.

but the key word is **

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Subject: [mw] as prophesized...ryan bambao is the anti-christ of pb-cle-raves...

Nostradamus: Quatrain X72 
 
 "In 1999 and seven months
 From the sky will descend a great terrifying King
 Who will resuscitate the great King ANGOLMOIS.
 Before and after, Mars reigns by good luck." 
 
 And here is the original french version of the quatrain: 
 
 "L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
 Du ciel viendra un grand Roy d'effrayeur:
 Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois,
 Auant apres Mars regner par bon-heur." 
 
 Let's begin with the question: Who is that "terrifying King"? The best 
approaches to that question that I know are from Goro Adachi in Etemenanki - 
Prophetic Insights. 
 
 But I think I've something to contribute that throws yet another light upon 
the Big Picture of the NASA/Egypt/NAZI/Mason-Connection that works out its 
interplanetary/cosmical drama here. 
 
 I want to go right in the middle of that drama and consider this "terrifying 
King" as someone who is exactly named as a Lord of Terror in the Egyptian 
Book of the Dead. 
 
 "Here all creation is represented as being in terror when they see the 
deceased king rise up as a soul in the form of a god who devours 'his fathers 
and mothers'; he feeds upon men and also upon gods. He hunts the gods in the 
fields and snares them; and when they are tied up for slaughter he cuts their 
throats and disembowels them. He roasts and eats the best of them, but the 
old gods and goddesses are used for fuel. By eating them he imbibes both 
their magical powers, and their Spirit-souls. He becomes the 'Great Power, 
the Power of Powers, and the god of all the great gods who exist in 
Spirit-bodies in heaven. He carries off the hearts of the gods, and devours 
the wisdom of every god; therefore the duration of his life is everlasting 
and he lives to all eternity, for the Heart-souls of the gods and their 
Spirit-souls are in him." 
 * E. A. Wallis Budge, The Book of the Dead 
 
 ---
 
 Ryan Bambao's current sig file...
 
 Subj:   {pb-cle} Discrimination is a Good Thing Re: {pb-cle} 
              quit it with the gay bashing
 Date:  1/14/01 9:49:48 PM Eastern Standard Time
 From:  str-attr@getanotherfuckingisp.com (Strange Attractor)
 
 Strange Attractor
 
 AIM:  IntelliGenetics
 
 "When I was in the DarkZone,
 I killed way better Gods than you..."
 
 ---
 
 what occured on July,1999 on pb-cle-raves...
 
 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org 
 Subject: Re: Re: {pb-cle} The family affair "legacy" 
 From: Steviet069@aol.com 
 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:34:08 EDT 
 Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org 
 Sender: pb-cle-raves-owner@hyperreal.org 
 
 
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--
 
 
 In a message dated 7/10/99 7:57:51 AM, you wrote:
 
 <<P.S.  If anyone from UPS is reading this... what ever
 happened to the Family Album????????????????>>
 
 i gave the "Family Album" to Brian right before the
 first meeting for FA5...all the pics of the original kids 
 from Family Affair One are with Brian now...
 
 i'm afraid it may have inspired him into doing another
 Family Affair, when after FA4, throwing another 
 Family Affair was the last thing on Brian's mind
 
 unfortunately both he and i believed in the old spirit
 and i started calling out all the true heads for the first
 FA5 meeting, and FA5 was underway...
 
 the forces of evil were alot more powerful than either of 
 us had concieved this year (as evident on this list)...the
 shade has reached to another level...
 
 it is unlikely that we can bring back "the great spirit"
 next year...
 
 i fear armageddon is near, and there is nothing more any
 of us can do about it...
 
 t
 
 
 To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org 
 Subject: Re: Re: RE: RE: {pb-cle} Im dissapointed and Im about to cry. 
 From: Steviet069@aol.com 
 Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:30:39 EDT 
 Delivered-To: pb-cle-raves-archive@hyperreal.org 
 Sender: pb-cle-raves-owner@hyperreal.org 
 
 
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 In a message dated 7/10/99 10:14:56 PM, trout wrote:
 
 <<as far as i can tell he doesnt start anything, just 
 respond to your emails about him.  this whole thing 
 is very childish and i cant believe that i have to 
 constantly intervene. >>
 
 huh? here is the beginning of the last flame war that 
 again he started...
 
 In a message dated 7/7/99 7:22:32 AM, ryan wrote:
 
 << I can't believe you felt it was necessary to post that.  
 You made out with somebody at a party last year >>....blah
 ...blah...blah
 
 hoy ve, here we go again!   <--- this was my first response,
                                                   you will notice, i tried 
 avoiding another flame war, yet ryan persisted & persisted, if 
 you  want i can pull up all the old archives...all the evidence 
 is similar...he attacks, i avoid & defend also, i did a li'l research
 ...i did a trace, most of these "new subscribers", come from 
 the same place of origin...in other words, they're all ryan, just 
 as "Good StevieT" was ryan...the petition going around is all 
 ryan under different names
 
 actions speak louder than words:
 i have been involved with the scene since day one, literally
 i have helped over 20 promotional cru's with their careers
 i singlehandedly published a rave zine w/ money out of my
    own pocket to promote the scene
 i to this day assist promotors & party kids during, after
    partys, and with things that have nothing to do with partys
 i actually have a "rave resume" that is over 2 pages long
 
 i asked ryan if he had done anything for the scene besides
 talk shit...he could not answer this question because he knows
 that is all he does...aside from hacking into people's accounts
 and creating new subscribers in a vain attempt to assist his
 smeer campaign against me...quite pathetic actually
 
 you know me jamie, i dont have to prove myself to you...
 don't fall for this kid's bullshit
 
 t
 
 ---
 
 he is the bastard that had previously hacked into my 
 account several times and signed me up on all these
 annoying mailing lists off of e-groups and most probably
 the one that had ruined my career by messing around 
 with the resumes that i had e-mailed and fwding my 
 phone calls to an unknown recipient for a month!
 
 he is the true disease that must be removed to stop
 all the curses! 

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Subject: [mw] why Ryan did it...

when Ryan first got on pb-cle-raves, the topic was
 the assasination attempt upon the pope
 
 Ryan first boasted of his British ancestors and how 
 he was superior to everyone else and that there 
 was no conspiracy
 
 obviously, there was...check the near the bottom of...
 http://www.patrickcrusade.org/bush3.htm
 
 Ryan is of the Illuminati.
 
 "Family Affair" was significant in one main aspect:
 it was held on July 4th...Independence Day...
 the date America declared its independence 
 from British rule...and for the underground it was
 their independence from the mainstream. 

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>  To: pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org 
>  Subject: Re: Re: RE: RE: {pb-cle} Im dissapointed
> and Im about to cry. 
>  From: StevieT069@aol.com

you must be joking

oh wait...

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Subject: [mw] happy birthday val and assfire.

Val's birthday is today.  Jeff's was yesterday.

Someone give them backrubs and seabreezes.

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Source:
Sacramento Bee
http://www.sacbee.com/

Truck rams Capitol: Driver killed in fiery attack
http://www.sacbee.com/news/beelive/show_story.cgi?truck

By Mareva Brown, Emily Bazar and Sam Stanton
Bee Staff Writers
Updated: Jan.  17, 2001 - 7:05 a.m.

In what authorities said was an attack by a mentally disturbed parolee, a 
big rig smashed into the south steps of the state Capitol building Tuesday, 
causing a massive fire that forced the evacuation of lawmakers and staffers 
attending a session on California's energy crisis.

The driver of the truck was killed in the 9:26 p.m.  crash, officials said, 
and a fire erupted that charred the inner walls of the Capitol's first
floor.

No other injuries were reported, and firefighters quickly got the fire 
under control and evacuated lawmakers, staff and press from the building.

The FBI's counterterrorism unit and state and local law enforcement 
officials rushed to the scene, where sources said they initially feared the 
incident was a terrorist attack.

But it remained unclear late Tuesday exactly why the truck crashed into the 
building.

One source said the registered driver is believed to be a 37-year-old 
former parolee from Southern California named Mike Bowers.

Officials with the Dick Simon trucking firm of Salt Lake City said the 
truck was on a regular run in the Sacramento area but had no other
information.

Bowers has a history of assaults, theft and other contacts with law 
enforcement and authorities have a file documenting threats he allegedly 
has made against Gov.  Gray Davis, according to sources.  Davis was not in 
the building at the time.

An official with the trucking company confirmed Bowers was the driver 
assigned to that truck.
However, the driver's body was burned beyond recognition and a positive 
identification was not possible Tuesday.

Officials said early today, however, that they still do not know why the 
truck rammed the building.

"We don't even know who this is," said Capt.  Dennis Williams, chief of 
California Highway Patrol's Capitol Protection Unit.  "There's even the 
possibility that this could be an accident."

"I think there would have been a lot more fear if he wouldn't have been in 
the cab or there would have been more occupants (of the truck)," one law 
enforcement source said.

Witnesses said the truck had circled the Capitol several times before 
speeding north on 11th Street.  The driver was blaring the truck's horn 
when the vehicle crashed into the steps of the Capitol's south entrance, 
then smashed through the ornate wooden doors and burst into flames.


"It was like a suicide bomber thing," said Matt Z'Berg, a staffer for 
Assemblyman Ed Chavez, D-El Monte.

Z'Berg, 33, was walking to his car parked nearby when he saw the truck 
racing up 11th Street honking its horn as it approached the traffic signal 
at N Street.

"I figured it was going probably 50 to 70 mph," Z'Berg said.  "When the 
light turned red he accelerated.  There were no brake lights involved at
all.

"He jumped the curb and went up ...  the granite stairs and smashed the 
front of his 18-wheeler into the doors."

The incident occurred six minutes after the Assembly had voted 60-5 in 
favor of an emergency measure to help solve the state's energy crisis, and 
the crash created a surreal scene inside the chamber.

As lawmakers gathered with lobbyists and staffers to chat and congratulate 
each other on the evening's work, a visibly shaken California Highway 
Patrol officer came in and ordered everyone to get out of the building.

"Everyone must evacuate now," the officer shouted.  "There's a big rig that 
exploded on the side of the Capitol."

Over the Assembly loudspeaker system, a voice warned, "This is not a drill."

Hundreds of people rushed out of the building as they pulled on their 
coats, ran down stairs and yelled into cellphones.

On the ground floor, flames shot as high as third-floor windows and charred 
the outer walls as well as inside hallways.  But firefighters managed to 
extinguish the flames within 20 minutes, Fire Capt.  Don Braziel said.

With the driver's body still inside the cab, bomb experts gingerly 
inspected the cab and trailer in search of explosives.

A Sacramento Fire Department inspector who refused to be named said 
firefighters had found no explosives inside the vehicle and that the fire 
may have been sparked when the truck's fuel tanks were ripped off the side 
as it hit the doorway.

Assembly Speaker Robert Hertzberg said he had been told the truck circled 
the Capitol several times before making a run at the south entrance.

"The truck appeared to drive down 11th Street with the intention of ramming 
the Capitol," Hertzberg said.  "It's horrible, just horrible.  I don't know 
what the driver was thinking."

Hertzberg said there had been no recent threats against lawmakers or the 
Capitol, which officials have discussed surrounding by a security wall in 
recent years because of terrorism concerns spawned by the Oklahoma City 
federal building bombing.

The incident set off a massive response from local law enforcement, as well 
as the Sacramento bureau of the FBI.  James Maddock, special agent in 
charge of the local FBI office and a veteran counterterrorism expert, 
huddled with Sheriff Lou Blanas and authorities inside a Sacramento 
Sheriff's Department mobile emergency bus near the site.

However, authorities had no explanation late Tuesday for what may have 
prompted the incident.
Officials with the trucking firm in Salt Lake City said they believed the 
truck had been in Sacramento on a regularly scheduled run to deliver cans 
of evaporated milk.

The firm employs 2,400 drivers, and one source said if the body in the 
truck was identified as the regular driver it may have been a case where a 
mentally disturbed man decided to attack the building.

The incident spawned a four-alarm fire with 10 engines and seven fire 
trucks, but by midnight it was clear that the only thing that sparked the 
fire was diesel fuel from the vehicle.

Bee staff writers Ed Fletcher, Walt Wiley, Kevin Yamamura, Fahizah Alim, 
Amy Chance, Dan Smith, Blair Anthony Robertson, Matthew Barrows, 
M.S.  Enkoji, Deb Kollars, Cheryl Miller, Carlos Alacalá and Ralph Montaño 
contributed to these reports.


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nice1, beeyotch.

IT'S ATOMLY'S BIRTHDAY TOO AND I'M TELLING!!

i bought him shots at midnight, what are *you* doing today?

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>We are so lucky here in Kansas City. Through the efforts of several
>promoters, as well as the Kansas City City Promoter's Alliance, a
>group of promoters who have come together to ensure that parties can
>keep on happening in the KC area, we have established a good working
>relationship with the police in our area. They have stated that all
>they are looking for is an end to the blatant drug use (as measured
>in drug sales), and adherance to all required legal permits. They
>have even offered to help local promoters in getting permits.
>
>Of course, we had to first earn their cooperation and trust. This was
>done through being so well-organized (we have several rave-oriented
>organizations in town in addition to the KCPA). Also, several
>promoters demonstrated our commitment to doing things straight up and
>legal. They were able to achieve virtually drug free parties. At one
>of these events, the Vice Squad was unable to make even one drug buy
>all night and several of their undercover officers were thrown out
>for attempting to buy drugs.
>
>The lessons are:
>1) drug free events ARE possible
>2) the rave and club scenes need to do even better at eliminating
>drugs from events
>3) it is essential to develop good relationships with your local law
>enforcement and city officials. Cities where someone in either of
>those organizations has a chip on their shoulder towards raves are
>going to have to work twice as hard!
>
>One interesting fact we learned from the local head of KC's Vice
>Squad: There is no coincidence that these rave crack downs are
>happening all over the country at the same time. Apparently, police
>depts in many major metro areas receive a generous portion of their
>funding for vice divisions from the federal govt. This makes them
>answerable at the federal level. In KC, they were sent to a federally-
>sponsored national conference on ecstacy at which they were told
>about this crackhouse law, as well as fed all kinds of negative
>propaganda about raves. Fortunately, the KC head of KC's Vice Squad
>seems able to make up his own mind. But, there are police depts all
>over the country that were fed the same kind of propaganda and are
>hell-bent on implementing it!
>
>Even in KC, we have to watch because the Vice Squad goes on record in
>the media as "hard" on raves. When they talk to us man-to-man, they
>have explained that this is because they have constituents just like
>elected officials, so it is very politically correct to crack down on
>our chosen weekend activity right now. :-(
>
>If anyone would like further info on how we have achieved this
>working relationship with the cops in KC, in order to help with your
>own local efforts, feel free to email me at my personal address:
>bpositive@sprintmail.com.
>
>Also, I have been developing a professional quality Rave PR Kit for
>the KCPA. This goes a long way toward gaining respect from the media
>and law enforcement when we can present ourselves professionally and
>in a well-thought out manner. This might help others of you who are
>going through the same thing. We are aiming to have the press kit
>finished before the WMC. I plan to bring copies of it to the WMC and
>will gladly make them available to anyone who wants one. We will also
>soon have this info available for download on the KCPA web site.
>
>Good luck to all in this serious battle!
>
>-- Robin


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DON'T WRITE TO ME ABOUT THESE, I"M NOT SELLING THEM1




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hi.  i'm selling some records.  you will either pick them up from me in 
milwaukee or pay the shipping + handling costs.  you will also pay me with a 
quickness, so i can pay my rent and buy my books for this semester.  :P

send me a list of what you want ASAP to dica666@hotmail.com.  i'm going to 
wait a few days to see if anyone wants the whole lots -- if someone does 
want to buy a whole section, they'll be getting first dibs.  if none of the 
lots go, then everything will be on a first email-first served basis.

have at it, kids.

--jon/dica--


----------jungle----------
----$5 apiece (unless otherwise marked) or all 46 for $200----

+ dj abstract - music & life/keep trying [rawkus]
+ dj abstract/area code - aura 2/area code [pneuma]
+ brockie & ed solo - represents/showdown [undiluted]
+ buddha monk feat. ODB - gots like come on thru (prisoners of technology 
rmx/original hip hop mix) [edel]
+ chemical agents - fast lane/scud [true playaz]
+ control freq - satellite (dom & rob timecode dub/vocal mixes) [higher 
education]
+ dr. mac - type/1st contact [smokers inc]
+ ez rollers - tough at the top (full vocal/radio edit) / weekend world  
(calyx rmx/original) [higher education]
+ fade - tdk/knight [kartoonz]
+ hive - ultrasonic sound (dillinja rmx) [vortex]
+ jack shadow - break loose/on the fly [smokers inc, clear vinyl]
+ john b (brazil) - slip stream/salsa [formation countries series]
+ ray keith - do it/the reckoning [v]
+ london elektricity - pull the plug/dirty dozen [hospital]
+ ma3 remixes - those djs/bite it (dj ss & barcode remixes) [formation]
+ manifest - semtex/the fall [audio couture]
+ maverick - road train rmx/moved on [switch]
+ dj nut nut - take control (ankh mix)/the chimes (funk mix) [true playaz]
+ pish posh feat. dj seen - da monsta rmx/onikoroshi [raw-kuts]
+ prisoners of technology vol. 5 - tha boogie/breakdance [freshkutt]
+ prisoners of technology vol. 7 - one-two/so damn tuff [freshkutt]
+ profound noise - soundscape/no way out [under fire]
+ profound noise - wired/cosmic funk [under fire]
+ q system (dj 3d) - swift kick/crime syndicate/dynamic groove [canvas]
+ realtime - yeah come on/sounds so good [collusion]
+ sappo - drumbeat/give it rmx [24 karat]
+ skynet - amorphia/hal [audio blueprint]
+ dj slip/dark agenda - nail gun/boogie nights [vinyl syndicate]
+ spice - go again/step off [back 2 basics]
+ spirit - the siege EP [da lick]
+ stormshadow - omerta (code of silence)/jump teq [vinyl syndicate]
+ dj swan-e & the undacut - inside moves/in ya hood [collusion]
+ timestretch/jukata - slow speed/polar fusion [advance test]
+ dj wisc - ektalon/the twist/keepsake [forte]
+ SWITCH 18 [switch]
+ hotsteppers volume 4 [hotsteppers series]
+ da hood volume 4 - lazer rain [da hood series]
+ fj volume III [fj series]

+ freestyles (hype & zinc) - stronger EP [true playaz] $10
+ de-underground 1996 LP (13 tracks from coolhand flex, uncle 22, mike 
underground, and more) [de-underground] $8
+ power play vol. II 3xLP (6 tracks from dj ss, john b, accidental heroes, 
dj surreal, twisted individual, and more) [formation] $12
+ dj slip/boba fett - the firm/party box (very rare white-label only release 
of vinyl syndicate 002) [vinyl syndicate] $10


----------techno/trance/house----------
----$4 apiece (unless otherwise marked) or all 40 for $160----

+ air liquide - liquid air(bionaut mix)/the increased difficulty of 
concentration/sonority canon/ekstasis [sm:)e 2x10"] $8
+ argonauts (dave ralph/mike koglin) - sommertag (w/fade remix) [kinetic]
+ astrocat - pathways e.p. [defective]
+ barada - glue/flesh/sensation [definitive]
+ bring the noiz - control remixes [kaos]
+ coda - everyman be free/the acid test [peacefrog #3]
+ deepart - collage #1 [rushhour white label]
+ alexi delano (g.o.l.) - man out of time EP [immigrant white label]
+ doc in the box - stop that... (w/jan driver & funk d'void rmxs) [f111]
+ d-shake - maddog e.p. [go bang!]
+ eddie flashin' fowlkes/a.e.s. - macro/music in my head [pow wow]
+ g-funk - misused (inc. johnny vicious mix) [strictly rhythm]
+ gus gus - very important people (w/rmxs by masters at work, francois k, 
q-burns abstract message, & dune) [4ad]
+ house on the 70s - push/breakdowns [break sounds]
+ janes addiction - so what! house remixes [wb]
+ juicy fruit - liferaft (w/rmxs by john acquaviva & stickman) [definitive]
+ neil landstrumm - bedrooms and cities 2xLP [tresor/no future] $15
+ patrick lindsey - phat jive/male phonk [harthouse]
+ modal - lovers [communique/sounds]
+ nimbus quartet - chunkafunk 2x12" [communique/sounds] $8
+ dave olson/scott radke - international rave heroes [hi pass]
+ phoenix - papi's disco/amor dulce [real estate]
+ p.i.m.p. project (dj irene/mark v/poogie bear) - kick your legs higher 
[tommy boy silver]
+ dj rip - power house e.p. [uc]
+ selway - new people rmx/new people orig/pozition/bass control [ultra]
+ luke slater - freek funk 2xLP [novamute] $12
+ sonik boom of love e.p. [planet east]
+ david stevens - venus [makeout music]
+ take aim - praise dance [junior boy's own]
+ titonton duvante/james johnson - splainurself/selected smuts [malfunction 
ltd promo 7"]
+ top kat (kelly & yates) - move the floor [top kat]
+ trade secrets - i know you got soul (w/rmxs by bad boy bill & krafty kuts) 
[f111]
+ vango noir - on the sly/red tunnel/stringing along/mariot [fifth freedom]
+ v/a - friends & lovers rmxs (w/dj slip, greg stevens, & mystic bill rmxs) 
[sounds]
+ v/a - voyeurism remixes (w/stefan manceau, christophe bouthe, jynny dark, 
& titonton duvante)
+ walker - astroland EP [direct drive]


----------old school-----------
----$5 apiece or all 21 for $90----

+ 2 little boys - stylophonia remixes (l.a. rmxs/garage rmxs) [radikal 1993]
+ atomix - i want your love (give it up)/beatomix [perception 1991]
+ bass-o-matic (william orbit) - fascinating rhythm mixes (lisa loud/claudio 
canigga/lp version/time tunnel/soul odyssey/hook and swing part i) [virgin 
1991]
+ chip e (w/j.m. silk) feat k.joy - like this/like this rmx [dj 
international] (note: a bit beat up)
+ church of extacy - devil beats (inc. who is jesus mix) [sonic 1992]
+ deskee - let there be house (inc. westbam mix) [rca 1989]
+ deskee - dance dance bootleg remixes (inc. tony humphries/westbam mixes) 
[rca white label 1990]
+ deskee - kid get hyped [rca 1991]
+ dimension 5 - extradroid/mental/utopia/soul searching [perception 1991]
+ emf - they're here rmxs (inc. joey beltram mix) [emi 1992]
+ a homeboy, a hippie, & a funky dread - start the panic dj remix [rising 
high white label 1992?]
+ g.t.o. - pure (battle of the basses/g-force mixes) [go bang! 1990]
+ frankie knuckles/jamie principle - waiting on my angel (dub/radio/club) 
[persona] (note: a bit beat up)
+ l.a. style - i'm raving [arista/hi tension 1993]
+ mr. lee - do it to me (instravibe/radio) [jive/zomba 1992]
+ mr. lee - get busy 1990 rmxs [jive/zomba 1990]
+ mr. lee - i like the girls [jive/zomba 1990]
+ u96 - love sees no colour [ffrr 1993]
+ ?? - is this/intense [white label breakbeat 1991?]

+ v/a - art of mix presents industrial strength dance music: precision four 
(remixes of classic tracks:  cubic 22 "night in motion", 2 frenchmen "black 
planet", eon "fear the mindkiller", greater than one "joy") [art of mix]
+ v/a - xl recordings: the first chapter (only the first of two records, 
includes:  flowmasters (aka frankie bones/tommy musto) "let it take 
control", 2 in rhythm "we want funk", brooklyn funk essentials "we got to 
come together", looney tunes (aka frankie bones/lenny dee) "just as long as 
i got you", centrefield assignment "mi casa", ellis d (aka junior vasquez) 
"i will survive") [xl 1990]


--------trip-hop/breaks/ambient/downtempo/electronica---------
----$3 apiece (unless otherwise marked) or all 23 for $65----

+ bhundu boys/alton ellis - never surrender/mean what you say (inc. mixes by 
smugg brothers, starbus, & j.k. sufferer) [smugg]
+ rl burnside - it's bad you know/shuck dub/let my baby ride [fat possum]
+ kit clayton - repetition and nonsense [drop beat]
+ the crystal method - comin' back (inc. front bc rmx) [city of angels]
+ delta 76 - achieved state of virtue/absolute limit [adrenalin]
+ the downslide feat. king rhythm & voxx - vicious/orange/instrumentals 
[curious electricity]
+ the freakforce e.p. (aka jeff novasell, mistikiss, matt-b, dj damn, rob 
vaugn & oliver dodd) - spread out/spread out (b-boy mix)/invasion from 
planet atlanta [rewind]
+ grand theft audio - side kick/slap hammer/lemon pop/slim jim [city of 
angels]
+ macy gray - do something (2x12" inc. rmxs by dj cam, king britt, d-styles, 
& more) [giant step] $10
+ (hed)p.e. - darky (rmxs by junkie xl & machine) [jive/zomba]
+ junior blanks - all about beats [city of angels]
+ kaman leung - shifting shapes ep [drop beat]
+ dj liquid - subculture (the missile mixes) [journees]
+ madonna - nothing really matters (kruder & dorfmeister rmx) [maverick]
+ noel mccoy/cut-throat - germ free/black people (inc. mixes by girl eats 
boy & smugg brothers) [smugg]
+ nrsha - annias/affluvium [pc music]
+ spacetime continuum - double fine zone 2xLP [astralwerks] $10
+ tahnja - untitled 2x7" [analog] $6
+ v/a - best of moog [loud]
+ wad squad - the wad squad ep [curious electricity]
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This is why lawyers and insurance companies are so popular.

A Charlotte, NC man having purchased a box of very rare, very expensive 
cigars insured them against fire among other things.
Within a month of having smoked his entire stockpile of cigars and
without 
having made even his first premium payment on the policy, the man filed
a 
claim against the insurance company.

In his claim, the man stated the cigars were lost "in a series of small 
fires." The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason:

that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion.

The man sued...and won!  In delivering the ruling, the judge agreed that

the claim was frivolous.
He stated nevertheless that the man held a policy from the company in
which 
it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that
it 
would insure against fire, without defining what is considered to be 
"unacceptable fire," and was obligated to pay the claim.

Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance 
company accepted the ruling and paid the man $15,000.00 for the rare
cigars 
he had lost in the "fires."

HERE COMES THE GOOD PART!!

After the man cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested
on 
24 counts of ARSON.  With his insurance claim and testimony from the 
previous case being used against him, the man was convicted of 
intentionally burning his insured property and sentenced to 24 months in

jail and a $24,000.00 fine.

This is a true story and it won the
1999 Criminal Darwin Award








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||Let's begin with the question:

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> >The lessons are:
> >1) drug free events ARE possible
> >2) the rave and club scenes need to do even better at eliminating
> >drugs from events
> >3) it is essential to develop good relationships with your local law
> >enforcement and city officials.

What if you like drugs, drug parties and hate cops?
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-->Prince's site has some new tunes: head for "Newz," click
-->on "Paisley Transmissions". Then go to the bottom of the
-->page and click the sun icon, which will then spell out Truth.
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This is taken from Mixmag January 2001

"Happy Hardcore: the musical genre that's underground, by exactly six
feet.

HAPPY HARDCORE, do make public and declare this to be my last will and
testament. Take it down, this is the last one. I hereby revoke all
former wills, coveneants and expressions that "Hardcore will never
die." Let's face it, that was a tempting fate.

1) To my dear cousin TRANCE I bequeath the tradition of glowsticks and
whistles. Let them be overcharged, over-used and overrated. I also
bequeath to TRANCE and its children my novelty 'home-made' clothing.

2) To my dear friend HARD HOUSE I bequeath the rapid 'highlight'
mixing technique and insanely high-pitched riffs. I wish for them to
be used in abundance until people wish that the pills they bought
really were Paracetamol.

3) To GARAGE I bequeath sloppily-produced, touch and go, quick buck
bootlegs. This applies to any bastard offspring of garage such as
SPEED GARAGE, UK GARAGE and BREAKBEAT GARAGE.

4) To US HOUSE I bequeath the dancefloor sing-a-long to lovey-dovey
lyrics. Let the master volume knob be turned down reslting in a
half-hearted dance floor choir.

6) May the DJs who have played my sound slowly turn their back on
their past and start playing proper music, backing up their arguments
with "they stopped playing me in '94"

8) May all the profits from black market jackets, record bags amd
'Bonkers' compilations be shared with my cousins JUNGLE, TECH-STEP and
ACID TRANCE.

9) Although we have never seen eye to eye, may PROGRESSIVES
inherit....no, fuck it. That bunch of chinstroking, cord-wearing
saddos are getting nothing from me.

And finally...

10) In my absence I wish the words "rave" and "raver" to be used
completely out of context by middlebrow papers when describing today's
"clubs" and "clubbers".

                           SIGNED, SEALED AND DECLARED
                           (in a shouty high-pitched voice)

                           HAPPY HARDCORE




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  pb-cle-raves...

hey i thought you were banned from pb-cle-raves.  shit must've gotten 
boring over there if they let you resub.

mk
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do you believe all the stupid bullshit people forward to you?

http://www.snopes2.com/business/genius/cigarson.htm

Don't open that message with the subject "good times!" it'll delete your
internet!

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> 
> 
> This is why lawyers and insurance companies are so popular.
> 
> A Charlotte, NC man having purchased a box of very rare, very expensive 
> cigars insured them against fire among other things.
> Within a month of having smoked his entire stockpile of cigars and
> without 
> having made even his first premium payment on the policy, the man filed
> a 
> claim against the insurance company.
> 
> In his claim, the man stated the cigars were lost "in a series of small 
> fires." The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason:
> 
> that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion.
> 
> The man sued...and won!  In delivering the ruling, the judge agreed that
> 
> the claim was frivolous.
> He stated nevertheless that the man held a policy from the company in
> which 
> it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that
> it 
> would insure against fire, without defining what is considered to be 
> "unacceptable fire," and was obligated to pay the claim.
> 
> Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance 
> company accepted the ruling and paid the man $15,000.00 for the rare
> cigars 
> he had lost in the "fires."
> 
> HERE COMES THE GOOD PART!!
> 
> After the man cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested
> on 
> 24 counts of ARSON.  With his insurance claim and testimony from the 
> previous case being used against him, the man was convicted of 
> intentionally burning his insured property and sentenced to 24 months in
> 
> jail and a $24,000.00 fine.
> 
> This is a true story and it won the
> 1999 Criminal Darwin Award
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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>IT'S ATOMLY'S BIRTHDAY TOO AND I'M TELLING!!

happy bday sir!!!

mk
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY ATOMLY!!!!!

i have no sig file.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, atomly wrote:

> Val's birthday is today.  Jeff's was yesterday.
> 
> Someone give them backrubs and seabreezes.
> 
> -- 
> :: atomly :: 
> 
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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA

You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA



do you believe all the stupid bullshit people forward to you?

http://www.snopes2.com/business/genius/cigarson.htm

Don't open that message with the subject "good times!" it'll delete your
internet!

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> 
> 
> This is why lawyers and insurance companies are so popular.
> 
> A Charlotte, NC man having purchased a box of very rare, very expensive 
> cigars insured them against fire among other things.
> Within a month of having smoked his entire stockpile of cigars and
> without 
> having made even his first premium payment on the policy, the man filed
> a 
> claim against the insurance company.
> 
> In his claim, the man stated the cigars were lost "in a series of small 
> fires." The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason:
> 
> that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion.
> 
> The man sued...and won!  In delivering the ruling, the judge agreed that
> 
> the claim was frivolous.
> He stated nevertheless that the man held a policy from the company in
> which 
> it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that
> it 
> would insure against fire, without defining what is considered to be 
> "unacceptable fire," and was obligated to pay the claim.
> 
> Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance 
> company accepted the ruling and paid the man $15,000.00 for the rare
> cigars 
> he had lost in the "fires."
> 
> HERE COMES THE GOOD PART!!
> 
> After the man cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested
> on 
> 24 counts of ARSON.  With his insurance claim and testimony from the 
> previous case being used against him, the man was convicted of 
> intentionally burning his insured property and sentenced to 24 months in
> 
> jail and a $24,000.00 fine.
> 
> This is a true story and it won the
> 1999 Criminal Darwin Award
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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> You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
> every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.
> 

I'd expect that you confirm it before you send it out to a 500-person
audience.  Otherwise you look like a moron.

oh wait.

here's a clue:  if the forward contains the words "this is a true
story!" (especially if it says them more than once) but offers *NO DETAILS
WHATSOEVER* such as maybe names or dates or, well, anything other than
just an interesting story that playss off the popular images of lawyers
and insurance companies as "money-grubbing scum," it's probably not true.

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"Noble Long" said:

> You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
> every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.

well, since you're already on the recieving end take this advice, too...

fuck the confirming, learn how send a hyperlink. that way every other person
on this list won't share your dilemma.

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From mw-raves-return-14483-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 21:47:57 2001
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i didn't have a hyperlink and if i did, is this a mail list or a hyperlink
exchange list?? some people may not have a browser readily available!!

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"Noble Long" said:

> You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
> every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.

well, since you're already on the recieving end take this advice, too...

fuck the confirming, learn how send a hyperlink. that way every other person
on this list won't share your dilemma.

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Noble Long said:

> i didn't have a hyperlink and if i did, is this a mail list or a hyperlink
> exchange list?? some people may not have a browser readily available!!


sorry, i should have known that last one would've been a little too complex
for ya...

here's my new request: shut the fuck up.

plur,
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From mw-raves-return-14485-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 21:58:44 2001
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no, but please pass on the ones that you haven't confirmed but did have time
to read, busy boy.

ps - please dont' delete my internet

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You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
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From mw-raves-return-14486-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:00:02 2001
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    But dude, seriously, hardcore will never die.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> This is taken from Mixmag January 2001
> 
> "Happy Hardcore: the musical genre that's underground, by exactly six
> feet.
> 
> HAPPY HARDCORE, do make public and declare this to be my last will and
> testament. Take it down, this is the last one. I hereby revoke all
> former wills, coveneants and expressions that "Hardcore will never
> die." Let's face it, that was a tempting fate.
> 
> 1) To my dear cousin TRANCE I bequeath the tradition of glowsticks and
> whistles. Let them be overcharged, over-used and overrated. I also
> bequeath to TRANCE and its children my novelty 'home-made' clothing.
> 
> 2) To my dear friend HARD HOUSE I bequeath the rapid 'highlight'
> mixing technique and insanely high-pitched riffs. I wish for them to
> be used in abundance until people wish that the pills they bought
> really were Paracetamol.
> 
> 3) To GARAGE I bequeath sloppily-produced, touch and go, quick buck
> bootlegs. This applies to any bastard offspring of garage such as
> SPEED GARAGE, UK GARAGE and BREAKBEAT GARAGE.
> 
> 4) To US HOUSE I bequeath the dancefloor sing-a-long to lovey-dovey
> lyrics. Let the master volume knob be turned down reslting in a
> half-hearted dance floor choir.
> 
> 6) May the DJs who have played my sound slowly turn their back on
> their past and start playing proper music, backing up their arguments
> with "they stopped playing me in '94"
> 
> 8) May all the profits from black market jackets, record bags amd
> 'Bonkers' compilations be shared with my cousins JUNGLE, TECH-STEP and
> ACID TRANCE.
> 
> 9) Although we have never seen eye to eye, may PROGRESSIVES
> inherit....no, fuck it. That bunch of chinstroking, cord-wearing
> saddos are getting nothing from me.
> 
> And finally...
> 
> 10) In my absence I wish the words "rave" and "raver" to be used
> completely out of context by middlebrow papers when describing today's
> "clubs" and "clubbers".
> 
>                            SIGNED, SEALED AND DECLARED
>                            (in a shouty high-pitched voice)
> 
>                            HAPPY HARDCORE
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mw-raves-return-14487-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:01:26 2001
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Subject: [mw] anyone in cincy going to activ8?

is anyone from cincy heading up to see Kid Entropy tonight? if not you should 
and since your going up ther take my ass!!!

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From mw-raves-return-14488-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:01:34 2001
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I will gladly confirm all my posts if everyone else on this list will do the
same.

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no, but please pass on the ones that you haven't confirmed but did have time
to read, busy boy.

ps - please dont' delete my internet

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You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.

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Isn't it kind of pointless to tell someone to "shut the fuck up", when you
cannot make them?

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Noble Long said:

> i didn't have a hyperlink and if i did, is this a mail list or a hyperlink
> exchange list?? some people may not have a browser readily available!!


sorry, i should have known that last one would've been a little too complex
for ya...

here's my new request: shut the fuck up.

plur,
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Noble Long said:

> i didn't have a hyperlink and if i did, is this a mail list or a hyperlink
> exchange list?? some people may not have a browser readily available!!

gee, noble, you sure are awfully considerate of the browser-impaired.

if only that same consideration applied to the plethora of folks that just
don't care about your worthless crap to begin with.

-d/\/


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From mw-raves-return-14491-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:05:01 2001
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DELETE KEY

it's near backspace...

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Noble Long said:

> i didn't have a hyperlink and if i did, is this a mail list or a hyperlink
> exchange list?? some people may not have a browser readily available!!

gee, noble, you sure are awfully considerate of the browser-impaired.

if only that same consideration applied to the plethora of folks that just
don't care about your worthless crap to begin with.

-d/\/

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From mw-raves-return-14492-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:14:22 2001
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hey chrise did you get the tin of neiman marcus cookies i sent?  i made 
them myself!

mk, completely stupid
________________________________________________________________________
michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org
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shrug, i thought we did.

-t

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I will gladly confirm all my posts if everyone else on this list will do the
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 birthday val and assfire.


> WHOA! I FORGOT JEFF ASSFIRE!!!
> happy 20 you old old old man :p

TOO BAD HE'S NOT ON MW
....yet.
heh.

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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA

if you insist on carrying on this conversation by posting, you will
continue to look like an ass.

this has been thoroughly checked and rechecked by our expert staff, as
well as an independent consulting firm.  consider it a confirmed fact.



On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->I will gladly confirm all my posts if everyone else on this list will do the
-->same.
-->
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-->From: Tony Sebion [mailto:tony@sebion.com]
-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:33 PM
-->To: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->no, but please pass on the ones that you haven't confirmed but did have time
-->to read, busy boy.
-->
-->ps - please dont' delete my internet
-->
-->-----Original Message-----
-->From: Noble Long
-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
-->every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.
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From mw-raves-return-14496-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:16:32 2001
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>i didn't have a hyperlink and if i did, is this a mail list or a hyperlink
>exchange list?? some people may not have a browser readily available!!

maybe you should just refrain from posting altogether.

mk
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From mw-raves-return-14497-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:16:34 2001
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> hey chrise did you get the tin of neiman marcus cookies i sent?  i made 
> them myself!

I'm not sure!  I can't see, because someone gave me a temporary tattoo
that was laced with acid!  then, when i was tripping, i stared into the
sun until i went blind!

so i can't see if there are any cookies here, did you make them yourself
from the recipe you bought for $300?

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From mw-raves-return-14498-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:26:14 2001
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I haven't even said anything... dammit!

How could you hear me from there, anyway?

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no.

shut the fuck up.

-d/\/

Noble Long said:

> Isn't it kind of pointless to tell someone to "shut the fuck up", when you
> cannot make them?


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From mw-raves-return-14499-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:27:02 2001
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oh, but isn't this what bored assholes on this list do for fun?

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if you insist on carrying on this conversation by posting, you will
continue to look like an ass.

this has been thoroughly checked and rechecked by our expert staff, as
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-->same.
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-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:33 PM
-->To: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->no, but please pass on the ones that you haven't confirmed but did have
time
-->to read, busy boy.
-->
-->ps - please dont' delete my internet
-->
-->-----Original Message-----
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-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
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Alright kids thats Enough!  Both of you cool off and then shake hands.
I'm not feeling the love here.

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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA

> I will gladly confirm all my posts if everyone else on this list will do
the
> same.

/me sings...."i'm starting with the man in the mirror...."

'i'll do it if everybody else does'....BABY!

i would like to extend chris's suggestion to virus threat hoaxes as well.
there are several great sites for finding out if the virus hoaxes you
recieve are real or not.

try www.sarc.com

barring that, try common sense.



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From mw-raves-return-14502-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:41:33 2001
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no.

shut the fuck up.

-d/\/

Noble Long said:

> Isn't it kind of pointless to tell someone to "shut the fuck up", when you
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From mw-raves-return-14503-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:41:43 2001
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no, it was held on july 1 & 2, and at that point the "underground" was on 
the rocket express to the mainstream.

mk

>  "Family Affair" was significant in one main aspect:
>  it was held on July 4th...Independence Day...
>  the date America declared its independence
>  from British rule...and for the underground it was
>  their independence from the mainstream.

________________________________________________________________________
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> Alright kids thats Enough!  Both of you cool off and then shake hands.
> I'm not feeling the love here.
thats because there is only one love
and noble is holding it and not sharing!


sorry everyone, but y'all were getting boring, thought i'd annoy you all a
bit.

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Subject: RE: [mw] FWD: Good Info



>
>No problem ;)
>
>It's just sad when I see people busting thier ass to make things happen 
>only
>for ass holes like you to come along and not appreciate it and end up
>ruining shit for every one, either get a life or OD. If your not part of 
>the
>solution, you are part of the problem!


I'm part of the contingent of 1,000 spear-chucking Zulu warriors that fucks 
your mom in the ass every night, bitch.

>
>Simon
>Http://www.Yourmommashouse.net
>
>

>
>
>Thanks for taking some time out of your day to let me know "what it's all
>about". I wasn't sure.
>
> >
> >Then your a crack head and you do not need to be going to raves!!!
> >Thats not what they are about!
> >
> >Throw parties at your house and get fucked up all you want.
> >Fucker....
> >
> >Simon
>
> >
> > > >The lessons are:
> > > >1) drug free events ARE possible
> > > >2) the rave and club scenes need to do even better at eliminating
> > > >drugs from events
> > > >3) it is essential to develop good relationships with your local law
> > > >enforcement and city officials.
> >
> >What if you like drugs, drug parties and hate cops?
>
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From mw-raves-return-14506-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:46:17 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] ATOMLY YOU ARSEHOLE....:)Re: [mw] happy birthday val and
 assfire.

WHOA! I FORGOT JEFF ASSFIRE!!!
happy 20 you old old old man :p


i have no sig file.
p.s. im a cross posting asshole. :)


On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, valerie valenzo wrote:

> HAPPY BIRTHDAY ATOMLY!!!!!
> 
> i have no sig file.
> 
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, atomly wrote:
> 
> > Val's birthday is today.  Jeff's was yesterday.
> > 
> > Someone give them backrubs and seabreezes.
> > 
> > -- 
> > :: atomly :: 
> > 
> > atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com
> > http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly           
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Subject: [mw] (BSP) www.cuteravergirls.com - Cute Raver Girls

Hey everyone, We have started a site by popular demand..We like to call it
cuteravergirls.com you can access it at http://www.cuteravergirls.com . You
can submit picture you would like to see and what not. Have fun.

Anyone who wants their picture posted on this site, email
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From mw-raves-return-14508-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 22:53:42 2001
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Thanks for taking some time out of your day to let me know "what it's all 
about". I wasn't sure.

>
>Then your a crack head and you do not need to be going to raves!!!
>Thats not what they are about!
>
>Throw parties at your house and get fucked up all you want.
>Fucker....
>
>Simon

>
> > >The lessons are:
> > >1) drug free events ARE possible
> > >2) the rave and club scenes need to do even better at eliminating
> > >drugs from events
> > >3) it is essential to develop good relationships with your local law
> > >enforcement and city officials.
>
>What if you like drugs, drug parties and hate cops?

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From mw-raves-return-14509-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 17 23:12:03 2001
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:

-->I'm part of the contingent of 1,000 spear-chucking Zulu warriors that fucks 
-->your mom in the ass every night, bitch.

ladies and gentlemen, i give you the always plurry, always politically
correct Hugh G. Blaze.


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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA

what?  try and look like asses?  

sure.  but they happen to be entertaining.  you're just acting like an
asshole.  

here's a hint:  when mw-raves comes back and bites you in the ass,
just take it like a man.  trying to argue just makes it worse.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->oh, but isn't this what bored assholes on this list do for fun?
-->
-->-----Original Message-----
-->From: Griggles [mailto:gdamiani@umich.edu]
-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:14 PM
-->To: keep it to yourself next time
-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->if you insist on carrying on this conversation by posting, you will
-->continue to look like an ass.
-->
-->this has been thoroughly checked and rechecked by our expert staff, as
-->well as an independent consulting firm.  consider it a confirmed fact.
-->
-->
-->
-->On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:
-->
-->-->I will gladly confirm all my posts if everyone else on this list will do
-->the
-->-->same.
-->-->
-->-->-----Original Message-----
-->-->From: Tony Sebion [mailto:tony@sebion.com]
-->-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:33 PM
-->-->To: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
-->-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->-->
-->-->
-->-->no, but please pass on the ones that you haven't confirmed but did have
-->time
-->-->to read, busy boy.
-->-->
-->-->ps - please dont' delete my internet
-->-->
-->-->-----Original Message-----
-->-->From: Noble Long
-->-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->-->
-->-->
-->-->You expect me to confirm every story that comes along? I can't even read
-->-->every email I get, but I'll try to take your advice.
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Subject: Re: [mw] Wednesday night at AcTiV8 -- DnB Night f. Kid Entropy!

whose goin to this lil shindig ???

-THE bitch iySyS-

Subject: [mw] Wednesday night at AcTiV8 -- DnB Night f. Kid Entropy!


: This wednesday night, January 17th, 2001, DNA Labs and Denny's Creature
bring
: some rockin' drum n' bass to Dayton.....
:
: K I D   E N T R O P Y (semiconscious media - Chicago)
:
: D A N N O  (collective intelligence/dna labs - Dayton) v.  D E R E K   J O
H
: N S O N (3xp/on the floor - Columbus)
:
: H I R O C K E M  v.  O E B  (invisible sounds - Dayton)
:
: D J   P H R E N Z Y (denny's creature/world dj alliance - Dayton) [w/ Kid
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:
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:
: D A N D A V E (Indianapolis)
:
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: squad/pimp-o-tron - Cincinnati)
:
: This will be a release party for Danno's new CD.
:
: More free giveaways from junglist.com, and semiconscious media.
:
: $5 cover, 18+
: Doors open at 8, bass kix in at 9.  We go home when we get tired.
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Subject: Re: [mw] new prince singles

And I don't know how new it is, but there
iis a funky house mix of Brand New Day 
that I acquired recently that is t-i-g-h-t!


-Chocolate

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Subject: [mw] please delete

wondering what i've been doing at work so far this evening?(28 minutes)
I made a mousepad out of legos.
bumpy side up

carry on with your bad selves

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like totally, dude.

;)

take that digest,
greg

p.s.  i just bumped into MC Shabba D on napster.  who wants to touch
me?  i said who wants to touch me, goddamnit!

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-->    But dude, seriously, hardcore will never die.
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-->To: "keep it to yourself next time" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:02 PM
-->Subject: [mw] only for the headstrong
-->
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-->> This is taken from Mixmag January 2001
-->> 
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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA

i don't claim to speak for mw-raves.  but after 2.5 years on this
list, i feel pretty qualified to speak ABOUT mw-raves.  if you want my
honest opinion, mw-raves is, has been, and will be a place where
people from the rave community can come and flaunt their ass-ness.  9
times out of 10, it's funny.  it brightens up my day.  maybe that's
why i've been here so long.

but trust me, i don't pretend to impose 'my idea of cool' on mw-raves.
it'd be pretty silly if we were all running around humming "I Think
We're Alone Now," don't you agree?  as it stands, the fact that i'm
the only person i know who doesn't deny that they love old 80's pop
songs is what makes me so damn cool.  so don't try and bite my style.

children behave.

now then, i never said this conversation was boring.  i never asked
you to shut up.  quite the contrary, i'm getting a kick out of
watching people tear you to shreds.  however, i did notice you getting
a little huffy with everyone jumping down your throat.  i postulated
an idea - it being, that if you don't want people flaming you, then
just shut up...  it was advice.  take it or leave it.

actually, there might be another possibility.  have you ever thought
about developing a sense of humor?  sometimes it helps to laugh just a
little.

through bein' cool,
greg

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->Maybe entertaining to you, but not to me. Just like posting this shit was
-->pretty entertaining for myself. Don't try to speak for mw-raves...we have
-->enough people doing the same thing around here. Do you know what I do when a
-->thread is boring? I delete the SOB. Some of you should try doing the same
-->instead of enforcing "your idea of cool" on the rest of us.
-->
-->-----Original Message-----
-->From: Griggles [mailto:gdamiani@umich.edu]
-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 3:08 PM
-->To: Noble Long
-->Cc: keep it to yourself next time
-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->what?  try and look like asses?  
-->
-->sure.  but they happen to be entertaining.  you're just acting like an
-->asshole.  
-->
-->here's a hint:  when mw-raves comes back and bites you in the ass,
-->just take it like a man.  trying to argue just makes it worse.
-->
-->On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:
-->
-->-->oh, but isn't this what bored assholes on this list do for fun?
-->-->
-->-->-----Original Message-----
-->-->From: Griggles [mailto:gdamiani@umich.edu]
-->-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:14 PM
-->-->To: keep it to yourself next time
-->-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->-->
-->-->
-->-->if you insist on carrying on this conversation by posting, you will
-->-->continue to look like an ass.
-->-->
-->-->this has been thoroughly checked and rechecked by our expert staff, as
-->-->well as an independent consulting firm.  consider it a confirmed fact.
-->-->
-->-->
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-->do
-->-->the
-->-->-->same.
-->-->-->
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-->-->-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->-->-->
-->-->-->
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-->have
-->-->time
-->-->-->to read, busy boy.
-->-->-->
-->-->-->ps - please dont' delete my internet
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explaining mw-raves to someone takes all the fun out of it...

unless they still don't get it, then its extra funny.

-t

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list, i feel pretty qualified to speak ABOUT mw-raves.  if you want my
honest opinion, mw-raves is, has been, and will be a place where
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Maybe entertaining to you, but not to me. Just like posting this shit was
pretty entertaining for myself. Don't try to speak for mw-raves...we have
enough people doing the same thing around here. Do you know what I do when a
thread is boring? I delete the SOB. Some of you should try doing the same
instead of enforcing "your idea of cool" on the rest of us.

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what?  try and look like asses?  

sure.  but they happen to be entertaining.  you're just acting like an
asshole.  

here's a hint:  when mw-raves comes back and bites you in the ass,
just take it like a man.  trying to argue just makes it worse.

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->oh, but isn't this what bored assholes on this list do for fun?
-->
-->-----Original Message-----
-->From: Griggles [mailto:gdamiani@umich.edu]
-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:14 PM
-->To: keep it to yourself next time
-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->if you insist on carrying on this conversation by posting, you will
-->continue to look like an ass.
-->
-->this has been thoroughly checked and rechecked by our expert staff, as
-->well as an independent consulting firm.  consider it a confirmed fact.
-->
-->
-->
-->On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:
-->
-->-->I will gladly confirm all my posts if everyone else on this list will
do
-->the
-->-->same.
-->-->
-->-->-----Original Message-----
-->-->From: Tony Sebion [mailto:tony@sebion.com]
-->-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:33 PM
-->-->To: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
-->-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->-->
-->-->
-->-->no, but please pass on the ones that you haven't confirmed but did
have
-->time
-->-->to read, busy boy.
-->-->
-->-->ps - please dont' delete my internet
-->-->
-->-->-----Original Message-----
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-->-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
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From mw-raves-return-14518-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:18:56 2001
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> children behave.
speaking of human traffic...

I did see that movie over the weekend, and i really liked it
the scenes that involved drugs(ie every other one) were dead on, I laughed
my ass
off in places
ahhh

also i saw the movie traffic, no human.
that movie was okay but it reminded me a lot of sabatoge's video(see Beastie
Boys, page 23)
and it ended too artsy for me

> actually, there might be another possibility.  have you ever thought
> about developing a sense of humor?  sometimes it helps to laugh just a
> little.
oh sweet jesus, is noble still being a humourless prick?

im here to flaunt my ass-ness.

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> Maybe entertaining to you, but not to me. Just like posting 
> this shit was
> pretty entertaining for myself. Don't try to speak for 
> mw-raves...we have
> enough people doing the same thing around here. Do you know 
> what I do when a
> thread is boring? I delete the SOB. Some of you should try 
> doing the same
> instead of enforcing "your idea of cool" on the rest of us.
Dear Noble Long,
	Would it be so tough for you to look up the meaning of the word
"us"?
You DO realize don't you that it is YOU against a bunch of other
motherfuckers,
not that i read the thread..but i skimmed it. that would mean, by the fact
that
EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR YOU THINKS YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE that in fact, the "us"
has much more say about the affairs of mw-raves than a measly little you.


"us" > "you"

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From mw-raves-return-14520-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:23:48 2001
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Subject: [mw] TONIGHT IN KC!!!!

Tonight in KC 

at club ????? I forgot the name...

in down town KC

DJ SLaPiNFuNK
   and many others
   
Sorry i dont know much info.. :) but hope to see some of you there..

from 9-2am

21 west 10th st

from I35 south
BROAD WAY make LEFT
to 10th street.  then right onto 10th street.. 
2 or 3 blocks.. the club will be on the right side..       





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From mw-raves-return-14521-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:31:22 2001
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Micah,

   Were you picked on as a kid? Perhaps you are still being picked on?

Noble



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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:20 PM
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> Maybe entertaining to you, but not to me. Just like posting 
> this shit was
> pretty entertaining for myself. Don't try to speak for 
> mw-raves...we have
> enough people doing the same thing around here. Do you know 
> what I do when a
> thread is boring? I delete the SOB. Some of you should try 
> doing the same
> instead of enforcing "your idea of cool" on the rest of us.
Dear Noble Long,
	Would it be so tough for you to look up the meaning of the word
"us"?
You DO realize don't you that it is YOU against a bunch of other
motherfuckers,
not that i read the thread..but i skimmed it. that would mean, by the fact
that
EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR YOU THINKS YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE that in fact, the "us"
has much more say about the affairs of mw-raves than a measly little you.


"us" > "you"

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From mw-raves-return-14522-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:38:18 2001
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Noble,

were you that asshole distributing wedgies to all the skinny kids in
gym class?  perhaps you still are?

well, the skinny kids are kinda pissed.  and we're all a whole lot
more sarcastic than you could ever hope to be.



On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->Micah,
-->
-->   Were you picked on as a kid? Perhaps you are still being picked on?
-->
-->Noble
-->
-->
-->
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-->To: keep it to yourself next time
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-->
-->
-->> Maybe entertaining to you, but not to me. Just like posting 
-->> this shit was
-->> pretty entertaining for myself. Don't try to speak for 
-->> mw-raves...we have
-->> enough people doing the same thing around here. Do you know 
-->> what I do when a
-->> thread is boring? I delete the SOB. Some of you should try 
-->> doing the same
-->> instead of enforcing "your idea of cool" on the rest of us.
-->Dear Noble Long,
-->	Would it be so tough for you to look up the meaning of the word
-->"us"?
-->You DO realize don't you that it is YOU against a bunch of other
-->motherfuckers,
-->not that i read the thread..but i skimmed it. that would mean, by the fact
-->that
-->EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR YOU THINKS YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE that in fact, the "us"
-->has much more say about the affairs of mw-raves than a measly little you.
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No, I'm not/wasn't. I was generally the one coming to the aid of the
helpless. I'm the one bearing the brunt of mw-raves anger not the one
dishing it out. I'm just wondering what Micah's problem is.


-----Original Message-----
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Noble,

were you that asshole distributing wedgies to all the skinny kids in
gym class?  perhaps you still are?

well, the skinny kids are kinda pissed.  and we're all a whole lot
more sarcastic than you could ever hope to be.



On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

-->Micah,
-->
-->   Were you picked on as a kid? Perhaps you are still being picked on?
-->
-->Noble
-->
-->
-->
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-->From: Topping, Micah [mailto:micah.topping@eds.com]
-->Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:20 PM
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-->Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE USA
-->
-->
-->> Maybe entertaining to you, but not to me. Just like posting 
-->> this shit was
-->> pretty entertaining for myself. Don't try to speak for 
-->> mw-raves...we have
-->> enough people doing the same thing around here. Do you know 
-->> what I do when a
-->> thread is boring? I delete the SOB. Some of you should try 
-->> doing the same
-->> instead of enforcing "your idea of cool" on the rest of us.
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fact
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-->EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR YOU THINKS YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE that in fact, the "us"
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From mw-raves-return-14524-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:43:25 2001
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i was wondering how long it'd be before someone said something PLURry.

-t

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Alright kids thats Enough!  Both of you cool off and then shake hands.
I'm not feeling the love here.

Ryan

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From mw-raves-return-14525-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:43:51 2001
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--- dj fishead <fishead666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ><< > > What's the biggest lie you've ever gotten
> away with?
> 
> it's a tie between:
> 
> "I won't cum in your mouth"
> 
> and
> 
> "Sorry, but I promise I won't tell the mw-raves list
> that I came in your 
> mouth, Angela"



bwahahahahahahahahahaha

that is all
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From mw-raves-return-14526-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:48:45 2001
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did you bake the baby you were taking care of before or after you went
blind?

for real now, i have a book called "the private sea: lsd and the search for
god" where the 1st few paragraphs describe an event where a person that was
tripping ate a live kitten to "find god".  i want to get approached @ a
party to buy acid that will make me wanna eat pussy.  and i hope it makes me
find god.

pun intentional,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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I'm not sure!  I can't see, because someone gave me a temporary tattoo
that was laced with acid!  then, when i was tripping, i stared into the
sun until i went blind!

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From mw-raves-return-14527-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:49:01 2001
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>so i can't see if there are any cookies here, did you make them yourself
>from the recipe you bought for $300?

yes i did!  i didn't have much else to do, i had to stay home because my 
wound was healing up from where someone stole my kidney!!

mk
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From mw-raves-return-14528-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:53:50 2001
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> No, I'm not/wasn't. I was generally the one coming to the aid of the
> helpless. I'm the one bearing the brunt of mw-raves anger not the one
> dishing it out. I'm just wondering what Micah's problem is.

did you ever see "kentucky fried movie?"  there's a scene where a
scrawny little white guy in a helmet walks up to a group of tough-looking
black guys and yells "NIGGERS!" and then runs away.

You're the scrawny little white guy in the helmet, and we're mw-raves'
group of tough-looking black guys.

the only difference is, you're standing around trying to explain to us
that yelling "niggerss" isn't wrong and we should deal with it.

the point's been made, several times, that posting long unrelated crap
that you didn't even write yourself to mw-raves is completely
inappropriate. You've got two choices. Apologize and stop doing it, or
leave.

chris


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From mw-raves-return-14529-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 00:58:06 2001
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you're forgetting the 3rd option, the "stevie t" route.  for that, though,
you either need disciples or be able to pretend like you have them.
performing miracles will also assist in that delusion.  get on it!

-t

ps - my mom won't let me watch kentucky fried movie, ever.

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You've got two choices. Apologize and stop doing it, or
leave.

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From mw-raves-return-14530-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:12:16 2001
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michael,

so sorry to hear bout your kidney.  However, I'm on no better shape.  I
went to get my change out of a payphone, and some drug user with AIDS had
maliciously left a used bloody needle in there!

did I mention i'm blind?

chris

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> 
> >so i can't see if there are any cookies here, did you make them yourself
> >from the recipe you bought for $300?
> 
> yes i did!  i didn't have much else to do, i had to stay home because my 
> wound was healing up from where someone stole my kidney!!
> 
> mk
> ________________________________________________________________________
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>    Were you picked on as a kid? Perhaps you are still being picked on?
no.
but i did just go eat some pizza.

i figured since the only thing you seem to comprehend on mw-raves is
unrelated nonsense
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From mw-raves-return-14532-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:37:44 2001
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Hey, I get it! I love you too, man.

onelove.
Noble

-----Original Message-----
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>    Were you picked on as a kid? Perhaps you are still being picked on?
no.
but i did just go eat some pizza.

i figured since the only thing you seem to comprehend on mw-raves is
unrelated nonsense
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> No, I'm not/wasn't. I was generally the one coming to the aid of the
> helpless. I'm the one bearing the brunt of mw-raves anger not the one
> dishing it out. I'm just wondering what Micah's problem is.
dear mother teresa,
   we are neither helpless nor do we need your aid.  we have been existing
within our little colony for quite some time now, quite happy and pleased
with
ourselves. my problem, being the only micah i know of on this list, is
nonexistent.
I derive great pleasure from watching my cats try to jump on counters and
slip and fall,
i enjoy watching white boys trying to jump and slap the backboard in gym, I
enjoy watching
all kinds of creatures futilely try to be more than they are and fail.
thats why i like you noble, because you are nothing but a small child that
is too defensive
and self-important.

and i love you for it.
want a fuckin cookie?


sluts

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From mw-raves-return-14534-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:47:14 2001
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> Hey, I get it! I love you too, man.
HOLD UP! WAIT A MINUTE!

is that what i think it is?
is that some semblance of a sense of humour?
and is THAT just a bunch of useless alliteration? probably

wow.
im so...awwwed.

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From mw-raves-return-14535-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:47:16 2001
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i'm glad i'm not the only loser that sits by my computer all day!

word up..homey!

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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:39 PM
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> No, I'm not/wasn't. I was generally the one coming to the aid of the
> helpless. I'm the one bearing the brunt of mw-raves anger not the one
> dishing it out. I'm just wondering what Micah's problem is.
dear mother teresa,
   we are neither helpless nor do we need your aid.  we have been existing
within our little colony for quite some time now, quite happy and pleased
with
ourselves. my problem, being the only micah i know of on this list, is
nonexistent.
I derive great pleasure from watching my cats try to jump on counters and
slip and fall,
i enjoy watching white boys trying to jump and slap the backboard in gym, I
enjoy watching
all kinds of creatures futilely try to be more than they are and fail.
thats why i like you noble, because you are nothing but a small child that
is too defensive
and self-important.

and i love you for it.
want a fuckin cookie?


sluts

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From mw-raves-return-14536-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:50:54 2001
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a little light goes on in Micah's brain...

See, Micah we all have a sense of humor, it just comes out in different
ways.

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> Hey, I get it! I love you too, man.
HOLD UP! WAIT A MINUTE!

is that what i think it is?
is that some semblance of a sense of humour?
and is THAT just a bunch of useless alliteration? probably

wow.
im so...awwwed.

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From mw-raves-return-14537-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:56:20 2001
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> i'm glad i'm not the only loser that sits by my computer all day!
well im at work
so you are still the only loser that sits by your computer all day
for me to sit at your computer all day would get kinda crowded
especially since we've never met and all

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From mw-raves-return-14538-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:56:26 2001
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> I'm part of the contingent of 1,000 spear-chucking
> Zulu warriors that fucks 
> your mom in the ass every night, bitch.

speaking of which, my momma wants her money back.



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From mw-raves-return-14539-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 01:57:40 2001
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> a little light goes on in Micah's brain...
that would explain why i've felt like wile E coyote all day!


> See, Micah we all have a sense of humor, it just comes out in 
> different
> ways.
yeah, i get it!
everyone elses comes out crystal clear like water from a hose
and yours comes out like shit from a water-gun!


just kidding
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From mw-raves-return-14540-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 02:02:25 2001
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> -->Prince's site has some new tunes: head for
> "Newz," click
> -->on "Paisley Transmissions". Then go to the bottom
> of the
> -->page and click the sun icon, which will then
> spell out Truth.

that settles it. prince is the saviour. you lose,
stevie.

TWOB


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From mw-raves-return-14541-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 02:04:36 2001
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and that's the way i like it. keeps 'em guessing.


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> a little light goes on in Micah's brain...
that would explain why i've felt like wile E coyote all day!


> See, Micah we all have a sense of humor, it just comes out in 
> different
> ways.
yeah, i get it!
everyone elses comes out crystal clear like water from a hose
and yours comes out like shit from a water-gun!


just kidding
no really

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From mw-raves-return-14542-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 02:14:23 2001
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> i guess i'm not the only loser at work at 8:00 PM. Are you a 
> programmer or
> something?
nah, but a project that im on the team for(designing the new line of GM SUV
vehicle's communications and error proofing system)
just got implemented(ie we are building trucks) and for the first month or
more GM requested 24 hour support
so I got thrown to nights, cos i complain the least(probably because im a
lazy sob) so...
here i am.



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From mw-raves-return-14543-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 02:23:14 2001
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oh oh oh not me! damn wish i was though. anyone who goes up there tell Tim i 
said HI!!!!

Gabe
baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< whose goin to this lil shindig ???
 
 -THE bitch iySyS- >>


Gabe
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From mw-raves-return-14544-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 02:28:17 2001
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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: FW: ONLY IN THE MW-RAVES LIST

hmmmm...can noble actully bend over far enough to get his own dick in his
mouth?

and does he swallow?

can i have any more fun than i am now watching your annoying self-rightous
ass get ripped to shreds on this thread?

guessing,
-d/\/


Noble Long said:

> and that's the way i like it. keeps 'em guessing.



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From mw-raves-return-14545-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 02:35:26 2001
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just curious, what makes me so self-righteous??

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hmmmm...can noble actully bend over far enough to get his own dick in his
mouth?

and does he swallow?

can i have any more fun than i am now watching your annoying self-rightous
ass get ripped to shreds on this thread?

guessing,
-d/\/


Noble Long said:

> and that's the way i like it. keeps 'em guessing.


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>im here to flaunt my ass-ness

and might i say, baby got back?

mk

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> >im here to flaunt my ass-ness
> 
> and might i say, baby got back?
michael knight i love you. and your cool car with the lights and stuff.

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i'm outta here after 14 hours...good nite all, especially Daniel. Try to
think of some good cut downs, so you can watch my ass get ripped to shreds
again tommorrow.

onelove.
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Micah are you from Germany? It's the only place I know where David Hasselhof
is a star for his singing ability.

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> >im here to flaunt my ass-ness
> 
> and might i say, baby got back?
michael knight i love you. and your cool car with the lights and stuff.

mrs. hasselhoff

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i guess i'm not the only loser at work at 8:00 PM. Are you a programmer or
something?

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> i'm glad i'm not the only loser that sits by my computer all day!
well im at work
so you are still the only loser that sits by your computer all day
for me to sit at your computer all day would get kinda crowded
especially since we've never met and all

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> Micah are you from Germany? It's the only place I know where 
> David Hasselhof
> is a star for his singing ability.
wow you really use the term ability quite loosely dont you?

i dont have to be from germany to wish i was drunk

THAT would make work a bit more bearable now wouldn't it?

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Noble Long said:

>
> no, i can't and i don't. look Dan if you get an ego boost participating in
> flame wars on the internet, be my guest. I'll be the victim, truth is i
> could care less what people post or say about me. Perhaps it might even be
> doing me good when I take things too serious.

i don't want any one person to play the victim, and i really don't give a
fuck you think. perhaps it's not doing you that much good, or you might seem
a little more like a person with a sense humor and less like a disgruntled
asswanker...you piss me off with all the bullshit you post all the time, and
beyond that i need no reason to post about it.

> once again, i'm glad i'm not the only loser who sits by his computer all
> day.

mebbe not, but you're the only loser that feels the need to publicly cry
everytime his name is mentioned on a fucking mailing list....regardless of
how stupid he sounded in the first place. (btw, doing schoowork...not quite
gettin' paid for being here, but at least it has a purpose...)

>
> My brother's name is Daniel. Too bad, you are nothing like him.

i know...senses of humor run in my family...props to your momma for the
name, though. at least someone in your family has some kind of taste.
</shrug>

> "the internet, making Ghengis Kahn's out of Urkle's, one anonymous post at
a
> time."

i gotcha urkel, too...next time you're in st. louis look me up. my address
isn't anonymous, and it won't be changing anytime soon. we'll have a plurry
'ol time, loaded with vicks and seabreezes, promise. oh, and if you want
less people responding to *you* and *your* stupid shit, maybe try stopping
*your* asinine responses to anyone else calling you on it.

please try to get a life tomorrow...i have a some catching up to do in a
couple classes...no time for urkels (plural not possesive). thanks in
advance.

xo
-d/\/


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this last word one-upmansship has got to stop.


look.  if i post crap to a mailing list that is a lame-ass internet hoax, or
a email-hoax, or some kind of pyramid scheme, or some kind of spam, i
fucking apologize and let it go when i get called on it.

i don't accuse everyone else on the list, and say i will mend my ways when
they do!

noble long, i don't have any ill will towards you.  i don't.  but fucking
drop it.  you fucked up.  yes, you are supposed to check your sources before
you send something to 500 people.  if the next guy does not do that, it does
not make your wrong right.  would you respect a journalist who heard
something from one person and printed it in the local paper without checking
sources?

the internet provides a great deal of freedom, and access to information,
but it is only as good as the people providing the information.  when you
decide you want to be one of those people, you take on a responsibility.

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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no, i can't and i don't. look Dan if you get an ego boost participating in
flame wars on the internet, be my guest. I'll be the victim, truth is i
could care less what people post or say about me. Perhaps it might even be
doing me good when I take things too serious.

once again, i'm glad i'm not the only loser who sits by his computer all
day.

My brother's name is Daniel. Too bad, you are nothing like him.

onelove.
Noble

"the internet, making Ghengis Kahn's out of Urkle's, one anonymous post at a
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my bad....this was supposed to go to his box only...i think that all this
personal b.s. should at least continue in private. sowwy.

-d/\/

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> Noble Long said: stuff



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>this last word one-upmansship has got to stop.

no way you're totally wrong.

mk

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Oops.. I was just informed on my drive down it got canceld for remodeling of 
the club.. sorry guys..

SLaPiNFuNK

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Subject: [mw] RICHIE HAWTIN and JOHN ACQUAVIVA February 3rd 2001

TICKETS ARE NOW ON SALE EVERYWHERE!

Liquid Groove
 Saturday February 3rd 2001
 Atlanta GA

Join us as we transform a huge new atlanta Location, for a rare appearance
from 2 of the worlds finest djs/producers

RICHIE HAWTIN
(Decks, EFX and 909) -
(Plus 8 - M_nus - Platikman)
We are proud to present for the first time at LG, a man who has been
globably producing cutting edge music for well over a decade. A special
extended set from one of the true pioneers of our scene, the legendary

JOHN ACQUAVIVA
(Definitive Recordings)
Originating from Canada, Johns been djing around the globe since 1980. In
1989 he co-founded the infamous plus 8 records with richie hawtin. Join us
as John enlightens our minds with his unique sound.

with additional support from

JEFF JOSEPH
(atlanta)

INFORMATION:
18 and up welcome with ID
doors open at 10:00 pm
MASSIVE SOUNDSYSTEM Intelligent lighting

TICKETS: $20 In advance $22 on the door

TICKET OUTLETS:
Buy tickets only from these stores ($1 surcharge at some locations)
Satellite 404-880-9746
Rewind 404-827-9463
Candy (Athens, GA) 706-549-0191
Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
Alices White Rabbit: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-918-0961
Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
Manifest: (Greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
Smoke: (Gainesville, FL) - 352-379-7670
Vinyl Fever (Tallahassee, FL) --850-580-3480

Online tickets can be purchased at www.massivetickets.com

VENUE:
DEKALB-ATLANTA CENTER
This is a brand new state of the art venue. It consists of one massive room
with huge ceilings, fully soundproofed, and the perfect venue for this
event.

DIRECTIONS:

>From the North: Go 85 south and get off at the Clairmont Rd Exit. At the
first light (Clairmont rd) go right. Go approx 1 mile to Dresden. Make a
right on Dresden, venue is 100 feet on right (big blue building)

>From the South: Go 85 North and get off at the Clairmont rd exit. At the
first light (clairmont rd) go left. Go approx 1 mile to Dresden. Make a
right on Dresden, venue is 100 feet on right (big blue building)

>From Tennesse area: Go 75 south towards atlanta. Go I-285 east. Then go I-85
south and then follow the directions from the north.

>From the West: Go 20 East into downtown atlanta. Go I-75/85 north. When 75
and 85 split head i-85 North and then follow the directions from the south.

>From the East: Go I-20 West into downtown atlanta. Go I75/85 north. When 75
and 85 split head I-85 North and then follow the directions from the south.



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> if the next guy
> does not do that, it does
> not make your wrong right.  

two wrongs do not make a right.

three rights, however, do make a left.

thank you, thank you.
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Subject: [mw] FROST ... This Saturday!

FROST
SATURDAY, JANUARY 20th, 2001
INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA

***DIRECTIONS WILL BE POSTED THIS WEEKEND***

Scarab Records brings you FROST!

Room One: 

RECLOOSE
Planet E
Detroit Techno

SLUGO
Dancemania
Chicago Booty-House

JONATHAN KEITH
Deep House

PHASE
Drum & Bass

D-FINE
Breaks

SPINDLE
Trance

Ambient Room:

RONALD BAILEY
Chicago Mood

TIMOTHY PININFARINA
Vaporspace


Virgin Venue:  2 rooms
Move inducing sounds
Mood inducing lights
Mind inducing vibes

Time:  10pm-6am

Tickets:  $20 at the door (no pre-sale)


FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT SCARAB RECORDS @

SCARAB RECORDS
317.767.5103
317.290.7477
SCARABRECORDS@AOL.COM
WWW.SCARABRECORDS.COM

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ON OUR MAILING LIST PLEASE E-MAIL US AT THE ADDRESS 
ABOVE OR CALL OUR INFORMATION LINE.

THANK YOU

THE SCARAB BOYS



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Subject: Re: [mw] new prince singles

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:

-->
-->> -->Prince's site has some new tunes: head for
-->> "Newz," click
-->> -->on "Paisley Transmissions". Then go to the bottom
-->> of the
-->> -->page and click the sun icon, which will then
-->> spell out Truth.
-->
-->that settles it. prince is the saviour. you lose,
-->stevie.
-->
-->TWOB

TWOB, huh?

i'm trying to figure this one out...  my guess is that the 'B' stands
for boobies.  but there's no 'R' for rockstar.

care to explain?


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On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:42:55 -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:

>
>    But dude, seriously, hardcore will never die.


You got it almost right....

"But dude, serious hardcore will never die."

Screw that happy shite.  ;)

	- Joe


PS: Chill out.  It's just a joke -
except I really don't care much for HH.
<OPINION !>


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Subject: [mw] FEB 10th Valentine JAM

FREAKOUTFREAKOUTFREAKOUTFREAKOUTFREAKOUTFREAKOUTFUCKWOD

Superstars of Love's 7 year Valentine Anniversary

LOVETRONIC  
02.10.01  St. Louis
featuring Live in concert:

Detroit Grand Pu Bahs - Jive Electro Detroit

Ming & FS on four turntables - New York City

DJ ASSAULT - Mo' Wax - Detroit's Ghettotech Master

Tomamerica AKA Tommie Sunshine - Chicago's madman

All Time High - Live freak show from Uranus

Hypo Vs Astrix - Live Techno PA
     Bodaleg - Boogie Knights' Bitch
  Justin Foster - this Kindred Groove kid rocks
Pepe - weird stuff!

http://www.superstarsoflove.com

Lovetronic is all about our love and dedication to
electronic dance music culture over the past 7 years.
As with all of our events, expect an unparalled
production with multiple full colored real Lasers,
expertly programmed intelligent lighting, heart
thumping sound system, inspiring visuals & decoration.

Star-crossed lovers slow dance all night long in the
Unearthly ambient lounge hosted by Cupid played by
performance artist TJ Richter the human comic book.

Brain Farm visuals!
Raverporn kissing booth!  
Massage Therapy by Touchy Feely!
Come fall in love-  this party will get you laid!
call # 314-994-1114 for FREE PHONE SEX

This event is recommended for mature audiences only.
Rated R  No one under 17 admitted without parents.
Stay tuned for more info!

http://www.leetv.tv   http://www.wesleywillis.com

http://www.requiemforadream.com



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ahhh yeh Joe...da brew city milwaukee massive cold representin' da MIDWEST
HARDKORPS...down wit da happy!!!


On 01/18/2001 2.35 AM Dynamic Groove put out the following propaganda:

>> But dude, seriously, hardcore will never die.
> 
> 
> You got it almost right....
> 
> "But dude, serious hardcore will never die."
> 
> Screw that happy shite.  ;)


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My mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
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It takes 62 muscles to frown at a person...
but it takes only six to turn around and bitch slap the fucker!!!

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists and
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children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I AM CHAOS !  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

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Mercury Rising or Frost?  Opinions?  ryan





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what the hell's going on??

9am and not a single flame yet today!

hurry up!


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    That'd be true, 'cept he's from madison.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> ahhh yeh Joe...da brew city milwaukee massive cold representin' da MIDWEST
> HARDKORPS...down wit da happy!!!



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(_8^(l)  doughnut??

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From mw-raves-return-14569-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 15:32:17 2001
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uhhhh, YOU SUCK!

i suck,
-t

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what the hell's going on??

9am and not a single flame yet today!

hurry up!


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fuck you jerk i do not suck i'm totally justified in posting this if you
dont like it hit the delete key.




> uhhhh, YOU SUCK!
> 
> i suck,
> -t
> 
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> Subject: [mw] hey!
> 
> what the hell's going on??
> 
> 9am and not a single flame yet today!
> 
> hurry up!
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In a message dated 01/18/2001 09:34:40, tony@sebion.com writes:

<< uhhhh, YOU SUCK!


i suck, >>

I prefer to lick. hehe


SLaPiNFUNK

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From mw-raves-return-14572-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 15:38:30 2001
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does me hitting the delete key make you not suck and justified (and
ancient?)  what if i do like it but i don't want to hit the delete key!  it
is a free country and i will post what i want!

oh, yeah, and something about alligators living in the sewers, so look out!

i'm too tired for mw-raves today, but i think that's probably the best
reason to post.

-t

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fuck you jerk i do not suck i'm totally justified in posting this if you
dont like it hit the delete key.




> uhhhh, YOU SUCK!
> 
> i suck,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chrise@pubnix.org 
> Subject: [mw] hey!
> 
> what the hell's going on??
> 
> 9am and not a single flame yet today!
> 
> hurry up!
> 
> 
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From mw-raves-return-14573-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 15:40:09 2001
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i agree

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> does me hitting the delete key make you not suck and justified (and
> ancient?)  what if i do like it but i don't want to hit the delete key!  it
> is a free country and i will post what i want!
> 
> oh, yeah, and something about alligators living in the sewers, so look out!
> 
> i'm too tired for mw-raves today, but i think that's probably the best
> reason to post.
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chrise@pubnix.org 
> Subject: RE: [mw] hey!
> 
> 
> 
> fuck you jerk i do not suck i'm totally justified in posting this if you
> dont like it hit the delete key.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > uhhhh, YOU SUCK!
> > 
> > i suck,
> > -t
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chrise@pubnix.org 
> > Subject: [mw] hey!
> > 
> > what the hell's going on??
> > 
> > 9am and not a single flame yet today!
> > 
> > hurry up!
> > 
> > 
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From mw-raves-return-14574-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 15:40:15 2001
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hey, as long as you don't have that scratchy cat tongue thing going on,
everything is cool.

or maybe yr into scratchy cat tongue, i dunno.

-t

ps - i think "if you don't like this delete it" is a good signature.

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I prefer to lick. hehe


SLaPiNFUNK

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In a message dated 01/18/2001 09:40:37, tony@sebion.com writes:

<< hey, as long as you don't have that scratchy cat tongue thing going on,

everything is cool.


or maybe yr into scratchy cat tongue, i dunno.

 >>

well I cant lick anything rite now.. i got my lip pierced about a week and a 
half ago.  so in 3 weeks ill be back in commision

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so there's a lick waiting list!?!??!

this is just typical... there's always a lick waiting list.  i don't know
what any of this means - timid souls should go the delete route.

-t

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well I cant lick anything rite now.. i got my lip pierced about a week and a

half ago.  so in 3 weeks ill be back in commision

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From mw-raves-return-14577-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 16:54:16 2001
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well there will have to be one now too.. immoving back to boston tommorow 
morning.. ill be back to play indy on the third of feb tho :)

SLaPiNFuNK

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<< so there's a lick waiting list!?!??!
 
 this is just typical... there's always a lick waiting list.  i don't know
 what any of this means - timid souls should go the delete route. >>

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Subject: Re: [mw] hey!

12:45 in the afternoon and only 17 mw-raves emails......WHAT THE HELL??

shawne
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> 
> what the hell's going on??
> 
> 9am and not a single flame yet today!
> 
> hurry up!
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i can start forwarding spam!

maybe everyone's just carefully screening their sources...

i'd post something, but the fact checkers aren't back with their results
yet,
-t

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12:45 in the afternoon and only 17 mw-raves emails......WHAT THE HELL??

shawne

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From mw-raves-return-14580-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 17:52:59 2001
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> i can start forwarding spam!
> 
> maybe everyone's just carefully screening their sources...

I know that's what I'm doing... I got this scoop this morning about how
Jesse Jackson had a love child with Chelsea Clinton, and even though I
KNOW everyone would love to see the 15 page story here on this rave list,
I'm waiting for verification on a few minor details - I think they got the
color of chelsea's eyes wrong.

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Subject: Re: RE: [mw] hey!

maybe someones internet connection is down!  I know i go nuts and go to one 
of those coffie shops with internet access when that happens.. 

I was stuck in cincinatti air port once for 6 hours.. i spent 4 of them 
online.. it was something like 120 bux.. hows taht for addiction!!!

also I didnt feel like carying my record crate all around the place.. hehe..

SLaPiNFuNK

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Subject: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] Oakie]]

arrrrrgh!!!!  that's not what i was complaining about at all!  i was bitc=
hing
about how people were saying moby "sold out", not whether they actually l=
ike
or dislike his music.  i think it's silly to slander an artist just cuz y=
ou
don't like the music, just as it's equally silly to worship them if you l=
ove
their music.  =


and i do think the whole "sold-out" or "mainstream vs. underground" argum=
ents
ARE extremely hard for people to understand, because any discussion of th=
ese
topics is usually done with one's ass and not one's head.  =


peace,
catnap

pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> wrote:
doesn't mean everyone has to like it.

WHY is that one simple little fact so hard for people
to understand.

it's not rocket science,
pixie


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Subject: [mw] [Re: [mw] Oakie]]

heh heh, yeah, i've got nothing against oakie et all...  i've hated tranc=
e
since i first heard it in 1994 and i still think it sucks! =

lalalalalalalalalalalalalaaaaaaaaaa heh.  eh-heh.  heh.

peace,
catnap



michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org> wrote:
moby has made tunes that will be eternal rave anthems, and for that has =

garnered the respect of many, including myself.

moby has made horrible pseduo-indie-punk-flavoured-rock that has made man=
y =

people laugh, including myself.

moby has made crappy techno that  has made many people change the channel=
, =

including myself.

moby has featured hot girls in his videos, like christina ricci and gwen =

stefani, that have given many guys erections, including myself.

basically, the guy has made his artistic contribution.  i can't fault him=
 =

for trying to get paid at this point.  we all need to make a living - why=
 =

not live as good as you can?


i don't fault oakenfold et al for trying to get paid, either.  i just thi=
nk =

they suck.

bling bling,
mk


At 08:22 AM 1/16/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>man, funk dat.  i'm usually as uptight as the next head about cats selli=
ng
>out, but i think moby's new album was a groundbreaking and daring attemp=
t
that
>paid off.  sure you can take shots at music that is so easily accessable=
 and
>appealing to many people, but it takes a ton of talent to put that stuff=

>together as well as he did.  back when "animal rights" came out in 1996,=
 i
was
>totally let down because i wanted more of his techno.  with one shot he
>dethroned himself as "techno god" and blasted himself out of the mainstr=
eam
>with an album of depressing guitar hardcore.  as much as i didn't like i=
t,
>i've come to respect that moby makes the music he wants to make, and he =
does
>it well.  i don't think there'll be another album made like "play" (i ho=
pe
>not) but i'm glad he did it.  ....and it definately helps that i don't w=
atch
>TV or listen to the radio - i'd probably hate moby, too.

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||what makes me so self-righteous??

Maybe the same thing that makes you such an annoying little dork? 


                                                Just guessing,

                                                     -tjw

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you suck, chris e!!  if that *IS* your real name!

stevie m. nobletopping

At 10:17 AM 1/18/2001 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

>what the hell's going on??
>
>9am and not a single flame yet today!
>
>hurry up!
>
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FUNKenterprises of Milwaukee Presents:
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 Evan Tyson
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yeah, he likes to keep people guessing. that's how he shows his sense of
humor.

still guessing, (it's just so darn fun)
-d/\/

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as long as you got the local promoters to pay for part of it, there's still
hope for your addiction.

if it was all out of pocket, you are doomed my son.

and if you don't believe me, ask stevie t.

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> maybe someones internet connection is down!  I know i go nuts and go to
one
> of those coffie shops with internet access when that happens..
>
> I was stuck in cincinatti air port once for 6 hours.. i spent 4 of them
> online.. it was something like 120 bux.. hows taht for addiction!!!
>
> also I didnt feel like carying my record crate all around the place..
hehe..
>
> SLaPiNFuNK
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Subject: [mw] Tonite ! ELECTRONIC FUSION- www.bearcast.uc.edu

Tonite - Thursday - January 18th

Check out a special live Tech-House performance and an interview with
[Infinite Grey - live PA] from 8-9 pm 
 
and then 

A set and an interview with Ambient/Chill Guru 
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From mw-raves-return-14590-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 18 23:38:13 2001
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yay...nay?

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, daniel wrote:

+still guessing, (it's just so darn fun)

FUCK THAT!!


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alright then, i guess i'm done guessing as long as that's not guessing. cos
i really don't want to hear back from his annoying ass either.

and cos the admin said so.

house-broken and obedient,
-d/\/

chad sponholz said:

> +still guessing, (it's just so darn fun)
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merry merry unbirthday to you *who me?* 
verry merry un birthday to you

yes you

berry berry humbnirthday to you
harry wary scumwouldsay to you

yeshua

scary dairy lubworthday boo hoo
larry mary fornicate with you

run for the bordar,
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why are you trying to start something, AGAIN??

Noble

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alright then, i guess i'm done guessing as long as that's not guessing. cos
i really don't want to hear back from his annoying ass either.

and cos the admin said so.

house-broken and obedient,
-d/\/

chad sponholz said:

> +still guessing, (it's just so darn fun)
>
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see kids?
 I TOLD YOU DRUGS WERE BAD!

no one ever listens to me!

> merry merry unbirthday to you *who me?* 
> verry merry un birthday to you
> 
> yes you
> 
> berry berry humbnirthday to you
> harry wary scumwouldsay to you
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> yeshua
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> run for the bordar,
> chad

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Oh, that's very mature of you... I ask an intelligent question and get
called a name.

Noble

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||what makes me so self-righteous??

Maybe the same thing that makes you such an annoying little dork? 


                                                Just guessing,

                                                     -tjw

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Subject: [mw] sorry noble, thread's over/was: ONLY IN THE MW-RAVES LIST

actually, i wasn't. but i was trying to keep your whiney ass from crying in
public,
all day long, again. but you've already started again, so i guess it's too
late for that.

so how about this: if you have anything to else you have the urge to say to
me, say it in private. if for nothing else, to keep this bullshit out of
everyone else's box.

and since you're some wierd kind of self-appointed posterboy for equality,
i'll do the same. deal?
i'm only saying this publicly so you won't have any viable excuses next time
you feel like crying out loud.

sorry if i was the catalyst of your posting. that's actually what i was
trying to
prevent. i was the one that wanted you to shut the fuck up, remember?

i would like to say publicly, that i'm sorry for waking this prick up, mw.
i can admit when i'm wrong.

now shut the fuck up, noble.
-d/\/

Noble Long said:

> why are you trying to start something, AGAIN??
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At 05:48 PM 1/18/01 -0600, Noble Long wrote:
>Oh, that's very mature of you... I ask an intelligent question and get
>called a name.

He didnt call you a name... he implied something, and answered your
question fairly apropoh response to your question.  That which makes you an
annoying little dork is waht makes you self-righteous (to him and probably
several others on this list)... you asked him a question dont quibble or
get upset if you dont like his answer (or do... but this gets back to you
being self righteous and an annoying little dork proving his point).

Have A day,


tad


>
>Noble
>
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>||what makes me so self-righteous??
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i'm listening to you!  

oh wait, who are you again?

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see kids?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53300-2001Jan12.html

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i'm too old to concern myself with something as inane as appearing "mature".



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Ted, .....

Gramps, 

did you forget your viagra again?
/me shoves it in teds mouf.

!sandwiches ted

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Bet, I'm older... how "old" are you?

Noble

too old to be starting a conversation with "hey, doo-doo head!"

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Ted, .....

Gramps, 

did you forget your viagra again?
/me shoves it in teds mouf.

!sandwiches ted

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is the geriatric raves list still around?

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From mw-raves-return-14605-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:12:47 2001
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> i'm listening to you!  
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> oh wait, who are you again?
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From mw-raves-return-14606-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:16:55 2001
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loriehukkersweetdarlin..

i have no use for viagra. though i've heard ppl use it recreationally, and that might be fun. 

/me leers suggestively at lorie 

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oh, and thanks for the sandwich..
                                             

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From mw-raves-return-14608-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:19:16 2001
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> Bet, I'm older... how "old" are you?
this reminds me of elementary school where everything was a competition.

i got less sleep than you did last night.

ps
im WAY older than either of you.
i been around longer than james brown foo

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From mw-raves-return-14609-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:22:43 2001
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If you didn't go to Nam, you a young punk!!

semper fi,
Noble

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> Bet, I'm older... how "old" are you?
this reminds me of elementary school where everything was a competition.

i got less sleep than you did last night.

ps
im WAY older than either of you.
i been around longer than james brown foo

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From mw-raves-return-14610-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:24:23 2001
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that might just about say it all..

-t

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If you didn't go to Nam, you a young punk!!

semper fi,
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From mw-raves-return-14611-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:26:04 2001
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I HEARD ITS LIKE E.

KIDS LISTENING TO THAT THUMPING TECHNO MUSIC PLAYED ALL NIGHT AT RAVES CAN 
EASILY GET VIAGRA FOR 75$ A PILL.


VIAGRA... THE NEW RAVE DRUG.




actually I heard it doesnt do shit.


=P



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<< loriehukkersweetdarlin..
 
 i have no use for viagra. though i've heard ppl use it recreationally, and 
that might be fun. 
 
 /me leers suggestively at lorie 
 
  ;p
 
 
         old enough to know better - but still young enough to go ahead & do 
it anyway,
 
                                              
 
                                                      -tjw >>

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||how "old" are you?

I'm 29, a sagitarius, & i like walks on the beach, dank nugs, and girls with new-wave hairdo's.


                                         -tjw





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> If you didn't go to Nam, you a young punk!!
> 
> semper fi,
> Noble
this is fucking pathetic
my mom was a fucking marine so please stop.
i can't believe you are that fucking old and truly have only the mental
capacity of a 12 year old, to give you more credit
than you may deserve.
this is to inform you that you are in fact too old to understand the times
we live in today, so please. go home.


love
concientious objector

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boys with bikinis, girls with surfboards...

-t

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I'm 29, a sagitarius, & i like walks on the beach, dank nugs, and girls with
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i was at a sleezy gay bar in NYC last october, and i kept finding empty 3
pill sample packs of viagra in ash trays.  and i knew i was somewhere near
the bottom.  YAY!

actually, i tried it once, and i'm with you, it didn't do shit, but then
again, i can get it up if you open a can of peas.

/me enjoys a little virility alone while it lasts...

-t


-----Original Message-----
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I HEARD ITS LIKE E.

KIDS LISTENING TO THAT THUMPING TECHNO MUSIC PLAYED ALL NIGHT AT RAVES CAN 
EASILY GET VIAGRA FOR 75$ A PILL.

VIAGRA... THE NEW RAVE DRUG.

actually I heard it doesnt do shit.

=P


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From mw-raves-return-14616-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:33:38 2001
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oops, "in" not "with".

i hate myself

-t

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boys with bikinis, girls with surfboards...

-t

-----Original Message-----
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||how "old" are you?

I'm 29, a sagitarius, & i like walks on the beach, dank nugs, and girls with
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From mw-raves-return-14617-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:38:04 2001
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do i get a no-prize?

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> hey, have a sense of humor... my dad was also a jar-head, so what! 
> 
> if you want to go head to head on an IQ test, we can throw down...
i dont throw down i put out

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>i was at a sleezy gay bar in NYC last october, and i kept finding empty 3
>pill sample packs of viagra in ash trays.  and i knew i was somewhere near
>the bottom.  YAY!

near *whose* bottom?!  :o

mk

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From mw-raves-return-14620-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:39:28 2001
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> actually I heard it doesnt do shit.
i think viagra has to be taken over a period of time
stick to crank
its quicker

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From mw-raves-return-14621-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:41:46 2001
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no you dont!

muahaha, teasing u,
-t

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i dont throw down i put out

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From mw-raves-return-14622-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:42:48 2001
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aw yeah :)

i dunno, it just needed an aw yeah :)

-t

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>and i knew i was somewhere near
>the bottom.  YAY!

near *whose* bottom?!  :o

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From mw-raves-return-14623-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:45:29 2001
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you've got it all wrong.  you gotta shove it up your urethra for the 
quickest results!

mk

>i think viagra has to be taken over a period of time
>stick to crank
>its quicker


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From mw-raves-return-14624-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:45:36 2001
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that doesn't do me any good....unless you want to wear a wig...

nevermind!

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> hey, have a sense of humor... my dad was also a jar-head, so what! 
> 
> if you want to go head to head on an IQ test, we can throw down...
i dont throw down i put out

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From mw-raves-return-14625-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:46:06 2001
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hey, have a sense of humor... my dad was also a jar-head, so what! 

if you want to go head to head on an IQ test, we can throw down...

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> If you didn't go to Nam, you a young punk!!
> 
> semper fi,
> Noble
this is fucking pathetic
my mom was a fucking marine so please stop.
i can't believe you are that fucking old and truly have only the mental
capacity of a 12 year old, to give you more credit
than you may deserve.
this is to inform you that you are in fact too old to understand the times
we live in today, so please. go home.


love
concientious objector

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From mw-raves-return-14626-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:48:57 2001
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> you've got it all wrong.  you gotta shove it up your urethra for the 
> quickest results!
thats all you man, ALL you.

> >i think viagra has to be taken over a period of time
> >stick to crank
> >its quicker

cathader king

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From mw-raves-return-14627-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:49:04 2001
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Subject: [mw] mw-punk mw-punk mw-punk mw-punk mw-punk

the greatest triple bill in the history of music as we know it.

https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=4003232AE76 
EB1D&event_code=ECU0303

you got that DAMN right!

mk, astounded that this is on sale throught ticketmaster

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> no you dont!
OH YEAH!?
we'll just see about that!


> muahaha, teasing u,


> > i dont throw down i put out


fuckit
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||VIAGRA... THE NEW RAVE DRUG.
||actually I heard it doesnt do shit.

There's something called "Yohimbe" which is natural, a tree bark if I remember right, and I think
it's still legal. It has mild psychedelic properties & is/was used ritually by the Bantu for
similiar reasons - again, if I recall correctly. 


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just stay as far as possible from any kind of sense-of-humor test.

fuck, did i reply to this thread, again?

my bad.
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> a bunch of stupid crap


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From mw-raves-return-14632-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 01:53:59 2001
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Yes, I can confirm that. It's also called "Yohimbara bark". One of those
companies used to sell it as herbal exctasy. You can catch a buzz if you
haven't eaten in two days.


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||VIAGRA... THE NEW RAVE DRUG.
||actually I heard it doesnt do shit.

There's something called "Yohimbe" which is natural, a tree bark if I
remember right, and I think
it's still legal. It has mild psychedelic properties & is/was used ritually
by the Bantu for
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moron, you gotta watch the wrap around/spacing.  you wouldn't care anyway.

mk

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hmmmm, i dunno about 'yohimbe', but i was in the local ghetto amoco not that
long ago, and they had this shit on dispay behind the plexiglass in little
individually-wrapped packages that looked like condoms....the plexiglass was
so scratched up, i could barely read the packages so i asked the clerk what
it was and almost pissed myself when he tried to tell me it was 'horny goat
weed' with a straight face.

i think it was some kind of tree-bark, too. i also think that clerk wanted
to shoot me.

amoco's most wanted
-d/\/

Ted Weinberg said:

> ||VIAGRA... THE NEW RAVE DRUG.
> ||actually I heard it doesnt do shit.
>
> There's something called "Yohimbe" which is natural, a tree bark if I
remember right, and I think
> it's still legal. It has mild psychedelic properties & is/was used
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> similiar reasons - again, if I recall correctly.
>
>
>                                     weird science,
>
>                                              -tjw



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yeah i already got tickets, but not from ticketmaster... i was at cubby bear
to see sludgeworth this sunday

> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael knight [mailto:michael@happy.hardcorps.org]
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> the greatest triple bill in the history of music as we know it.
>
> https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=4
> 003232AE76
> EB1D&event_code=ECU0303
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> you got that DAMN right!
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> mk, astounded that this is on sale throught ticketmaster
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I just spent an hour watching a little bit of a movie with my roommate and a 
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stupid header.  Take it private please, because this is fucking ridiculous


-Jen

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AUGH THEY ARE ALREADY ON 
SALE!?!?!?!?!?!$#$%#&%#^%&$#^%&  FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

how was sludgeworth anyway?

mk

At 08:04 PM 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote:
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>to see sludgeworth this sunday


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complain when there are two many messages
complain when there aren't enough
complain when they are too boring
complain when they are too immature

it's a freakin email list for chrissake...

Noble

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I just spent an hour watching a little bit of a movie with my roommate and a

friend, and I come back to 50+ messages (in an hour, mind you!!!) with this 
stupid header.  Take it private please, because this is fucking ridiculous


-Jen

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> I just spent an hour watching a little bit of a movie with my 
> roommate and a 
> friend, and I come back to 50+ messages (in an hour, mind 
> you!!!) with this 
> stupid header.  Take it private please, because this is 
> fucking ridiculous
shut it jen

i changed the subject is that better now?

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In a message dated 1/18/01 9:06:10 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
sixtybus@milwpc.com writes:

<< I just spent an hour watching a little bit of a movie with my roommate and 
a 
 friend, and I come back to 50+ messages (in an hour, mind you!!!) with this 
 stupid header.  Take it private please, because this is fucking ridiculous
 
 
 -Jen >>



666ty YOU GOSHDAMNED PARTY POOPER.. LIKE ANYONE TAKES ANYTHING PRIVATE ON 
MW-RAVES.


!thwap sixybus

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: ONLY IN THE MW-RAVES LIST <priapism>

i also hear that you can catch a buzz if you haven't eaten in two days.
period.

but if you haven't eaten in 2 days you need to stop catching a buzz, and
share with the rest of your playmates.

don't care when you're not saying something dumb
-d/\/

Noble Long said:

>
> Yes, I can confirm that. It's also called "Yohimbara bark". One of those
> companies used to sell it as herbal exctasy. You can catch a buzz if you
> haven't eaten in two days.



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>I was stuck in cincinatti air port once for 6 hours.. i spent 4 of them
>online.. it was something like 120 bux.. hows taht for addiction!!!

stupid.

>also I didnt feel like carying my record crate all around the place.. hehe..

in case anyone didn't catch this, HE'S A DJ!!!!!!  the easiest way to tell 
is how he alludes to it in every goddamn post.  btw who the fuck flies with 
a crate?

mk
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From mw-raves-return-14644-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:16:22 2001
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you think we all have time to concatenate URLS, what about those without a
backspace key?

think of the children!! for chrissake.

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> The event you have requested cannot be found!
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From mw-raves-return-14645-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:18:03 2001
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> >i changed the subject is that better now?
> 
> Actually Micah, yeah.  I'd rather look at "taco sharpie" than 
> that other one.
anything i can do to help, although i doubt we can keep this thread going
nearly as long
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but hey, it won't be for lack of trying.

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hey blitz i know you're pretty tied up what with your elaborate eBay scams 
and such, but maybe you could condense that sig into, i dunno, TEN 
lines?!  jesus.  you've never said anything of enough merit to warrant a 
sig that's a mile long.

mk

At 03:53 AM 1/18/2001 -0600, bLiTz666 wrote:
>ahhh yeh Joe...da brew city milwaukee massive cold representin' da MIDWEST
>HARDKORPS...down wit da happy!!!
>
>
>On 01/18/2001 2.35 AM Dynamic Groove put out the following propaganda:
>
> >> But dude, seriously, hardcore will never die.
> >
> >
> > You got it almost right....
> >
> > "But dude, serious hardcore will never die."
> >
> > Screw that happy shite.  ;)
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
>My mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
>and my audience is the target!!!
>
>It takes 62 muscles to frown at a person...
>but it takes only six to turn around and bitch slap the fucker!!!
>
>I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists and
>scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which your
>children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
>I AM CHAOS !  I am alive and tell you that you are free.
>
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> you think we all have time to concatenate URLS, what about 
> those without a
> backspace key?
then move to the line above and hit delete


dj nimrod

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Subject: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] Re: [Re: [mw] Oakie]]]

nah.  i do think i "understand" a lot of the argument, but i am also
rediculously guilty of the ass for a head thing.  usually more often than=
 the
"understand" thing.   =


hmmm, "mainstream" and "underground" are both a state of mind, and i'd ve=
nture
to say, both negative.

peace,
catnap  =


<chrise@pubnix.org> wrote:

so what you're saying is that you "understand" this argument, while
everyone who disagrees with you just doesn't get it?

smart guy...


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Dear noble,
  I like Jen.  I don't like you.
shut up.

sincerely,
  micah

ps part of the problem nothing you ARE the problem

> complain when there are two many messages
> complain when there aren't enough
> complain when they are too boring
> complain when they are too immature
> 
> it's a freakin email list for chrissake...
> 
> Noble
> 
> part of the problem, not the solution

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Subject: RE: RE: [mw] hey!

That is pretty un-economical of you. At least you weren't on a flight, using
the air-phone and a laptop.

some day all communication will be free....

-----Original Message-----
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>I was stuck in cincinatti air port once for 6 hours.. i spent 4 of them
>online.. it was something like 120 bux.. hows taht for addiction!!!

stupid.

>also I didnt feel like carying my record crate all around the place..
hehe..

in case anyone didn't catch this, HE'S A DJ!!!!!!  the easiest way to tell 
is how he alludes to it in every goddamn post.  btw who the fuck flies with 
a crate?

mk
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>666ty YOU GOSHDAMNED PARTY POOPER.. LIKE ANYONE TAKES ANYTHING PRIVATE ON
>MW-RAVES.
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>
>!thwap sixybus
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>message # 51


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From mw-raves-return-14653-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:28:42 2001
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>===== Original Message From Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> =====
>complain when there are two many messages
>complain when there aren't enough
>complain when they are too boring
>complain when they are too immature
>
>it's a freakin email list for chrissake...
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>Noble
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>part of the problem, not the solution

Actually, I'm not a real big complainer, and it's about once in a blue moon 
that I complain to this list about the E-mail content, so I'm due for one.

I just find it a little ridicilous that within an hour there were over 50 
messages with the same subject header, by the same group of people, is it so 
hard to turn it into a private discussion?

-Jen

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From mw-raves-return-14654-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:29:20 2001
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> enough merit to warrant a 
> sig that's a mile long.

his sig file isn't a mile long, mister knight.

it's exactly one-full-browser-screen long

maximized to screen, but not full-screen.
pixie

i just deleted every single e-mail with a caps subject
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From mw-raves-return-14655-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:29:27 2001
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weird.

i got "propagandhi"

maybe you're not "browser-ready"

need me to make you a flowchart?
pixie

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From mw-raves-return-14656-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:29:49 2001
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BUT MICHAEL! they prove how cool and cynical she is!

> >Everybody is an enemy...fuck it I hate everybody.
see?

> >I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
see?

> >My mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
> >and my audience is the target!!!
okay i dont quite get that one

> >It takes 62 muscles to frown at a person...
> >but it takes only six to turn around and bitch slap the fucker!!!
not sure on the math here, turning around i guarantee takes a lot of muscles
but still
cyncicism!

> >I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists and
> >scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which your
> >children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
> >I AM CHAOS !  I am alive and tell you that you are free.
oh look she's eris too!
oh goddes

> >Wednesday 01.10 & 01.17 the Invasion presents 'Arrival' @
> >Club Ibiza, downtown Des Moines
> >with Resident DJ's nnothing & SLaPiNFuNK + special guests
club ibiza?

woah
im sorry

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From mw-raves-return-14657-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:32:38 2001
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maybe your email screen is wider than mine... baby...

when i see a blue link, i click it dammit!!

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weird.

i got "propagandhi"

maybe you're not "browser-ready"

need me to make you a flowchart?
pixie

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
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net zero.

hehe. what a coincidence.

bet ya didn't get it.
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> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010118/ts/clinton_speech_dc_1.html
thank you for only posting a link, progress is being made and should be duly
noted.


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I get it, but is it really free if it's crap?

Noble

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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> some day all communication will be free....


net zero.

hehe. what a coincidence.

bet ya didn't get it.
pixie


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ok, i havent been on here five minutes and already you fukks are getting on 
my nerves.  

heres my haiku:

my new cat has but three legs
hobbles to and fro
leg eaten in car fan belt

thats right, right? 7-5-7. ok, so id like to see any of you do better.
well,  im back....i heard some of you have forgotten the true spirit of a 
REAL mw-raver.  were supposed to make everyone NOT on the list feel like an 
outsider, not turn against EACH OTHER.  
/me turns to face the inside of the circle once again.

miss me?
l0r4sauce
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fly around your head-this you cannot change
But that they build nests in your hair
That you can prevent"
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
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> baby...

no, it's not.

i'm just "browser-ready." i don't click like an
over-excited 14-year-old after his first wet dream. 

i'm experienced. baby.
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> I get it, but is it really free if it's crap?
well technically if it doesnt cost you anything it is free
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> I get it, but is it really free if it's crap?

you didn't get it.

keep trying. or don't. 
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At 09:29 PM 1/18/01 -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
>BUT MICHAEL! they prove how cool and cynical she is!
>
> > >Everybody is an enemy...fuck it I hate everybody.
>see?
>
> > >I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
>see?
>
> > >My mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
> > >and my audience is the target!!!
>okay i dont quite get that one
>
> > >It takes 62 muscles to frown at a person...
> > >but it takes only six to turn around and bitch slap the fucker!!!
>not sure on the math here, turning around i guarantee takes a lot of muscles
>but still
>cyncicism!
>
> > >I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists and
> > >scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which your
> > >children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
> > >I AM CHAOS !  I am alive and tell you that you are free.
>oh look she's eris too!
>oh goddes
>
> > >Wednesday 01.10 & 01.17 the Invasion presents 'Arrival' @
> > >Club Ibiza, downtown Des Moines
> > >with Resident DJ's nnothing & SLaPiNFuNK + special guests
>club ibiza?
>
>woah
>im sorry
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omg lol!!

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In a message dated 1/18/01 9:36:05 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Applesawz909@aol.com writes:

<< .i heard some of you have forgotten the true spirit of a 
 REAL mw-raver.  were supposed to make everyone NOT on the list feel like an 
 outsider, not turn against EACH OTHER.   >>

WHAT IS THAT SHIT ?

AHHAHahAHahAHahhahahAHAHHAhah

that was good.... really really good, but I am pretty sure that most of us 
were just kidding around...


I bet you will last a week.. back on here.

I still love you though....
tons.....  MissPlurrific.


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> > >I AM CHAOS !
how chaotic. chaos is crap. ill prove it.
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From mw-raves-return-14668-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:43:13 2001
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thanks, one other comment about this article -

But he also cautioned against a withdrawal from international
responsibilities, which Democrats warned during the campaign would be a
consequence of a Bush presidency. ``America cannot, and must not,
disentangle itself from the world,'' he said. 

why should we disentangle ourselves from the world? disentanglement is good
for the economy, according to the latest polls.

Noble

CNN using Army Psy-ops? Makes perfect sense.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/032300-107.htm

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> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010118/ts/clinton_speech_dc_1.html
thank you for only posting a link, progress is being made and should be duly
noted.


thanks
 the management

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Well, tell me miss experienced...how can you tell if a porn link is legit or
one of those that pops open a dozen windows?

I know, but I'm not sure if I should tell.

Noble
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> maybe your email screen is wider than mine...
> baby...

no, it's not.

i'm just "browser-ready." i don't click like an
over-excited 14-year-old after his first wet dream. 

i'm experienced. baby.
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> ok, i havent been on here five minutes and already you fukks 
> are getting on 
> my nerves.  
> 
> heres my haiku:
> 
> my new cat has but three legs
> hobbles to and fro
> leg eaten in car fan belt
> 
> thats right, right? 7-5-7. ok, so id like to see any of you do better.
> well,  im back....i heard some of you have forgotten the true 
> spirit of a 
> REAL mw-raver.  were supposed to make everyone NOT on the 
> list feel like an 
> outsider, not turn against EACH OTHER.  
> /me turns to face the inside of the circle once again.
shut up
go away

haikus should be about nature and stuff and the third line should be
completely
unrelated to the first two
amateur

here is a real haiku

the sun sets nicely at dawn
clouds like rivers float
moon death empty nonsense goes

ps
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--- "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> wrote:
> > I get it, but is it really free if it's crap?
> well technically if it doesnt cost you anything it
> is free
> regardless of its crap-quotient

now, now. "there is no such thing as a free lunch."
-every popular basic economics textbook. check there
for their varied ac·cred·i·ta·tions.

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In a message dated 1/18/01 8:41:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
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> I bet you will last a week.. back on here.
>  
>  I still love you though....
>  tons.....  MissPlurrific.

i lost a lot in the fire.  apparently my dignity went too. you should start a 
bet-pool.  i say ill last a lil longer, i am bored until i move mrach first 
and my computer works after a few weeks to dry out and a can of air 
duster.....
hatin it for yall.
can one of yall let me know which subjects to delete and which ones are worth 
reading....

bwahahahhhaaa!
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In a message dated 1/18/01 8:48:02 PM Central Standard Time, 
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> haikus should be about nature and stuff and the third line should be
>  completely
>  unrelated to the first two
>  amateur

ok, so micah-bear is better at haikus, isnt he better at everything?  ive 
faced it, sounds like the rest of mw-world needs to as well.
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> Noble
> porn professional

clap. clap. clap. clap. clap.

you still haven't gotten it yet, have you?
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i'm gettin some food

is that code?  are you hinting at something?

/me gets in the car and waits

-t

ps - what party is supposed to be in urbana on the 27th that dica'll be at?
i'm thinking of going with him and i need to know how much pee to bring.

-----Original Message-----
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> no you dont!
OH YEAH!?
we'll just see about that!

> muahaha, teasing u,

> > i dont throw down i put out

fuckit
im gettin some food

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From mw-raves-return-14676-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:56:26 2001
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Sorry, to hear about your stuff, at least thats all you lost, right?

onelove.
Noble

waiting to hear from the masses about which subjects to delete.....

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In a message dated 1/18/01 8:41:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
TekkgirIie@aol.com writes:

> I bet you will last a week.. back on here.
>  
>  I still love you though....
>  tons.....  MissPlurrific.

i lost a lot in the fire.  apparently my dignity went too. you should start
a 
bet-pool.  i say ill last a lil longer, i am bored until i move mrach first 
and my computer works after a few weeks to dry out and a can of air 
duster.....
hatin it for yall.
can one of yall let me know which subjects to delete and which ones are
worth 
reading....

bwahahahhhaaa!
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From mw-raves-return-14677-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:56:47 2001
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oh if this isn't throwing gas on the fire i don't know what would be.

STOP TICKLING ME!  

-t

ps - *heart* 60 ;)

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I just spent an hour watching a little bit of a movie with my roommate and a

friend, and I come back to 50+ messages (in an hour, mind you!!!) with this 
stupid header.  Take it private please, because this is fucking ridiculous

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From mw-raves-return-14678-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:58:44 2001
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net zero.

yes, I get it but I'm not laughing.

Noble


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> Noble
> porn professional

clap. clap. clap. clap. clap.

you still haven't gotten it yet, have you?
pixie


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From mw-raves-return-14679-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 02:59:57 2001
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> > haikus should be about nature and stuff and the third line should be
> >  completely
> >  unrelated to the first two
> >  amateur
> 
> ok, so micah-bear is better at haikus, isnt he better at 
> everything?  ive 
> faced it, sounds like the rest of mw-world needs to as well.
okay with common sense like that you can stay for a long time lora
no need to run away after a week!
dont listen to bad miss lorie!

you are welcome here in my book!

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From mw-raves-return-14680-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 03:01:18 2001
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i know gotti says its all about the quotes, but this document is SO much
funnier with them...get a load of this sentence...

Clinton, who "spoke" to the "country" from the "Oval office" for the *15th
time* in his eight-year "presidency", "leaves office" on Saturday.

muahaha i will miss him, every news story he is mentioned in sounds dirty.

ps - my life was never quite the same after i read about the oral-anal
sexual contact between him and "that woman".


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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010118/ts/clinton_speech_dc_1.html



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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> net zero.
> 
> yes, I get it but I'm not laughing.

that's funny.

i am.
easily amused pixie


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In a message dated 1/18/01 9:00:39 PM Central Standard Time, 
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> > ok, so micah-bear is better at haikus, isnt he better at 
>  > everything?  ive 
>  > faced it, sounds like the rest of mw-world needs to as well.
>  okay with common sense like that you can stay for a long time lora
>  no need to run away after a week!
>  dont listen to bad miss lorie!
>  
>  you are welcome here in my book!

common sense?  hulk no understand......hulk smash.

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From mw-raves-return-14683-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 03:07:12 2001
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> > i'm gettin some food

> is that code?  are you hinting at something?
im not hinting anymore baby

> /me gets in the car and waits
well you gotta come here, or meet me in urbana this weekend to save you some
trip time
i'll be drunk so anything could happen


> ps - what party is supposed to be in urbana on the 27th that 
> dica'll be at?
> i'm thinking of going with him and i need to know how much 
> pee to bring.
well that sucks i work that weekend
tell jonny hello for me
and put some pee in the freezer for me, i like it chilled

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In a message dated 1/18/01 10:00:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
micah.topping@eds.com writes:

<< okay with common sense like that you can stay for a long time lora
 no need to run away after a week!
 dont listen to bad miss lorie!
 
 you are welcome here in my book!
  >>


I wasn't saying she isn't welcomed Micah darlin....she knows me love her long 
time.

ok.... 66666ty is gonna beat us with the plurbat soon if we dont stop this 
thread.

you guys should come to chi this sat and rave with us over this way.  =P

yes.. all of you guys/gals/hoes/hukkers/whores.





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> you guys should come to chi this sat and rave with
> us over this way.  =P
> 
> yes.. all of you guys/gals/hoes/hukkers/whores.

i'm a whore!! stevie said so!!

and amanda's the bitch, so we'll be there!

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>i changed the subject is that better now?

Actually Micah, yeah.  I'd rather look at "taco sharpie" than that other one.

Thanks

-Jen

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In a message dated 1/18/01 8:09:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< Bet, I'm older... how "old" are you?
 
 Noble
 
 too old to be starting a conversation with "hey, doo-doo head!"
  >>



im 23, but I believe ted is 28... maybe 29 now.

but I was just trying to be a dork, cuz I can.

who started a conversation with "hey doo doo head?"
I must have deleted that one.. along with 99% of the other posts.

dont ask me why I picked that one of teds to read.. I dont even know what 
this topic is about.

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> I wasn't saying she isn't welcomed Micah darlin....she knows 
> me love her long 
> time.
sorry lorie, i didnt mean to make you out to be the bad guy.
it wont happen again!
promise!

> ok.... 66666ty is gonna beat us with the plurbat soon if we 
> dont stop this 
> thread.
last one i promise!
two promises!

> you guys should come to chi this sat and rave with us over 
> this way.  =P
nah come down to urbana saturday!
thats closish

> yes.. all of you guys/gals/hoes/hukkers/whores.
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hey if anyone's going to brockout tonite, i'll be the guy in the oversized 
trousers.

werd
mk

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you cant get off that weekend? that blows (heh, punny)

if there's anyhting i've learned over the past 28 years of living, its that
you can't rape the willing.

when i moved in to my apt the previous tennants left something that looked a
lot like pee in the freezer in old 16 oz juice bottles.  i later found out
they raved, figures.

-t

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> /me gets in the car and waits
well you gotta come here, or meet me in urbana this weekend to save you some
trip time
i'll be drunk so anything could happen


> ps - what party is supposed to be in urbana on the 27th that 
> dica'll be at?
> i'm thinking of going with him and i need to know how much 
> pee to bring.
well that sucks i work that weekend
tell jonny hello for me
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ha, ummmmmm, i'm not sure what level that is, do we wanna be there?  should
we move?  maybe we just need new furniture.

-t

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FINALLY!!  someone who is on my level here!!!

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> Ugh, everyone always says I'm gonna beat them with my 
> vibrator, but that would 
> require me to clean it and polish it up for the beating.  I'd 
> really rather 
> just kick people when I'm wearing my boots...
may this be my formal request to be assaulted with an UNCLEAN vibrator.
thank you.

pikachoooo

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> hey if anyone's going to brockout tonite, i'll be the guy in the oversized 
> trousers.

and i'll be the girl in glasses.

http://www.nakkidnerds.com/

really though, it's sad to see brockout over.

/j





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Subject: [mw] phlipside prod - glen b - jan 20, 2001 - columbus, oh

phlipside productions presents...

Glen B - spinnin trip hop, techno, house, & hip hop

saturday...jan 20th, 2001

@ enigma in columbus, ohio
283 e. spring st. - 614.224.6201
- clean legal venue
- free admission til midnight
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>> ok.... 66666ty is gonna beat us with the plurbat soon if we
>> dont stop this
>> thread.
>last one i promise!
>two promises!

Ugh, everyone always says I'm gonna beat them with my vibrator, but that would 
require me to clean it and polish it up for the beating.  I'd really rather 
just kick people when I'm wearing my boots...

-Jen

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>===== Original Message From Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> =====
>oh if this isn't throwing gas on the fire i don't know what would be.
>
>STOP TICKLING ME!
>
>-t
>
>ps - *heart* 60 ;)

FINALLY!!  someone who is on my level here!!!

/me tickles the drunktard then jumps on his back in hopes of getting a drunken 
piggy back ride  :)

*heart* my blonde birthday boy

-Jen

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>and i'll be the girl in glasses.
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>
>really though, it's sad to see brockout over.

awww shit does someone have a password/logon for this site??? I have a
fetish for big thick black glasses on girls, hell I just have a fetish for
sexy geeks.


tad


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> hey micah -
> 
> your mother wears army boots!
*ahem*
marine corps boots

get it straight buster.

micah

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my friend bought them... or maybe he just said they did, he's kinda cracked
out *shrug*

> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael knight [mailto:michael@happy.hardcorps.org]
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:08 PM
> To: Eliot Stanton; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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> AUGH THEY ARE ALREADY ON
> SALE!?!?!?!?!?!$#$%#&%#^%&$#^%&  FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
>
> how was sludgeworth anyway?
>
> mk
>
> At 08:04 PM 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote:
> >yeah i already got tickets, but not from ticketmaster... i was
> at cubby bear
> >to see sludgeworth this sunday
>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
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hey micah -

your mother wears army boots!


On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

-->> If you didn't go to Nam, you a young punk!!
-->> 
-->> semper fi,
-->> Noble
-->this is fucking pathetic
-->my mom was a fucking marine so please stop.
-->i can't believe you are that fucking old and truly have only the mental
-->capacity of a 12 year old, to give you more credit
-->than you may deserve.
-->this is to inform you that you are in fact too old to understand the times
-->we live in today, so please. go home.
-->
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-->love
-->concientious objector
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From mw-raves-return-14701-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 05:51:43 2001
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Maybe it's just me, but every time I read a post like the originalfrom
this thread I automatically think it's fake (ala totally Terry Mullen).
Sorry if that makes me a bitch :) and sorry if this is a really late
reply.  (coughcoughSOMEONE NEEEDS A PHONE LINE cough)

-Ana, who for some odd reason is watching Joe Vs. The Volcano

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From mw-raves-return-14702-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 06:09:27 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] lick my anus/doug said that would work.....

: you guys should come to chi this sat and rave with us over this way.  =P
: 
: yes.. all of you guys/gals/hoes/hukkers/whores.
: 

dont forget the bitch !!!
see you guys this weekend 

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From mw-raves-return-14703-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 07:49:25 2001
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Drop me an email i'm gonna be in Chicago, wanted to hook up.
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From mw-raves-return-14704-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 08:41:56 2001
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jes i either didn't see you there or don't remember well enough what you 
look like to know that i did see you when i saw you.

at any rate, what a wicked time.  my first brockout was the last.  *sigh*

mk, has to wake up in 2 hours

>and i'll be the girl in glasses.
>
>http://www.nakkidnerds.com/
>
>really though, it's sad to see brockout over.


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From mw-raves-return-14705-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 13:59:29 2001
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i know this is beyond the midwest and far, far away, i
just enjoyed drooling over the "groups and artists
that will be playing the next night." 

> OPENMINDED
> http://i.am/openminded     
> http://www.openminded.fsnet.co.uk/
> 
> Who : Loopz (Dj) . gray (Dj) . VERY special guest Dj
> When : 26th January 2001 
> Time : 08:00 till late
> Where : The Bear Tavern in Smethwick in Birmingham.
> B66 4BX
> Music : IDM / Electronica / Experimental / Ambient /
> BreakBeat
> Cost : £1 only. Normal drink prices all night!
> 
> 
> Special thanx to all that came to the 1st event.
> Photos and a bit of Audio
> is now on the website. If you havent already -
> please sign the guestbook :)
> 
> Groups and Artists that will be played at the next
> night:
> (808 state . add n to (x) . aphex twin . arovane .
> autechre . bjork .
> boards of canada . bump and grind . chemical
> brothers . confusion . cuba .
> distance . duplo beatbox . fizzarum . funkstorung .
> future sound of london . gescom . grover . higher
> intelligence agency .
> laurent garnier . leftfield . lfo . luke vibert .
> meat beat manifesto .
> medium . mogwai . mouse on mars . orbital . plaid .
> plone . polygon window
> . pram . quickspace supersport . radiohead .
> scan x . schematix . schizoid man . spaceman 3 .
> spectrum . spooky .
> squarepusher . stereolab . the high llamas .
> tele:funken . the orb .
> tortoise . trans am . turn on . uilab . uncle .
> underworld . u-ziq . wagon
> christ)
> 
> 
> More updates soon....
> 
> Steve 
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how do i unsub..i forgot

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ok, read this reply. now, read all the way to the
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no, ALL the way...past your question and everything.

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Subject: [mw] new words

The Washington Post's Style invitational again this year asked readers to

take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting or 
changing one letter, and supply a new definition.

These are some of the best:

1. REINTARNATION: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.

2. FOREPLOY: Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of
getting 
laid.

3. GIRAFFITI:  Vandalism sprayed very, very high.

4. SARCHASM: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person
who 
doesn't get it.

5. INOCULATTE: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

6. HIPATITIS: Terminal coolness.

7. OSTEOPOMOSIS: A degenerate disease.

8. KARMAGEDDON: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these really
bad 
vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's like, a serious

bummer.

9. GLIBIDO: All talk and no action.

10. DOPELER EFFECT: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when
they 
come at you rapidly.

11. INTAXICATION: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you

realize it was your money to start with.

12. IGNORANUS: A person who's both stupid and an asshole.





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its friday and i ... nope, not gonna say it.

actually i do have shit to do.  i'm @ work, i think i got a full night of
sleep (for me, anyway) last night, i'm feeling pretty good, i'm up for some
mw-crap if anyone else is.

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> jes i either didn't see you there or don't remember well enough what you 
> look like to know that i did see you when i saw you.

no worries, it was off the hook, wall to wall bodies. i don't fully 
remember you, so i asked laffey (who, incidentally, was raving hard) if
he'd seen ya. nope. couldn't seem to walk 2 feet without running into
someone i hadn't seen in forever though. twas a great night indeed.

> at any rate, what a wicked time.  my first brockout was the last.  *sigh*

oh that's too bad! i'm kinda hoping scott comes out of retirement for a
final brockout 101 in may so i can get my annual rinsing. damn, it's nice
to remember that i used to really fuckin love jungle. easy to forget the
last 2-3 years. rewind!

/j
original nuttah
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Subject: [mw] where da funk at?

It's friday, I'm nearly broke after spending $200 to bail my roomate out of
jail last night (driving without a license or insurance) and I've been
working crazy hours this week... I just want to say - WHERE DA WEED AT?

onelove.
Noble

p.s. If anyone else out there has heard of the "Mankind Project", let me
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From mw-raves-return-14712-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:18:42 2001
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complain when there are two many messages
complain when there aren't enough
complain when they are too boring
complain when they are too immature
complain when they are from your dumb ass

it's a freakin email list for chrissake...

Noble

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From mw-raves-return-14713-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:19:20 2001
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hmmmm..i havent postde in a few days and this seems like a good one for some 
oddlly "i just woke up and am still grooggy" reason. Lets 
see..ummm...hmmm...nope..i reallyhave nothing of interest to say at 
all...damn.

Oh you all could send me money for my kittens neutical fund...yeah just do 
that.


www.neuticles.com

thats all

whendee

>===== Original Message From Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> =====
>its friday and i ... nope, not gonna say it.
>
>actually i do have shit to do.  i'm @ work, i think i got a full night of
>sleep (for me, anyway) last night, i'm feeling pretty good, i'm up for some
>mw-crap if anyone else is.
>
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From mw-raves-return-14714-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:20:21 2001
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> >and i'll be the girl in glasses.
> >
> >http://www.nakkidnerds.com/
> >
> >really though, it's sad to see brockout over.
>
> awww shit does someone have a password/logon for this site??? I have a
> fetish for big thick black glasses on girls, hell I just have a fetish for
> sexy geeks.

    Ditto, but you'll never get my nakkidnerds login. =]

Matt Murphy
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From mw-raves-return-14715-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:25:38 2001
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At 02:09 PM 1/19/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>how do i unsub..i forgot

you have to fwd every message you've ever received from the list to 
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that should do it,
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From mw-raves-return-14716-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:27:41 2001
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>no worries, it was off the hook, wall to wall bodies. i don't fully
>remember you, so i asked laffey (who, incidentally, was raving hard) if
>he'd seen ya. nope. couldn't seem to walk 2 feet without running into
>someone i hadn't seen in forever though. twas a great night indeed.

yah i raved with laffey for a bit, you musta talked to him before i was 
inside the venue because i saw him rather quickly.

>oh that's too bad! i'm kinda hoping scott comes out of retirement for a
>final brockout 101 in may so i can get my annual rinsing. damn, it's nice
>to remember that i used to really fuckin love jungle. easy to forget the
>last 2-3 years. rewind!

yah those old tunes still kill me.  got to hear my personal favourite "give 
me a dubplate".   woot!

mk, very tired
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At 12:05 PM 2001-01-19, you wrote:

>complain when there are two many messages
>complain when there aren't enough
>complain when they are too boring
>complain when they are too immature
>complain when they are from your dumb ass
>
>it's a freakin email list for chrissake...
>
>Noble
>
>part of the problem, not the solution
>
>
>yes, much better.....


first, i sent that to you privately because it was a worthless flame and i 
was bored

second, it's not a slam if you don't include my suggestion for an addition 
and how you attempted to turn it against me

third, this thread is quickly becoming the longest on any mailing list in 
history ever

fourth, you've already been told to "shut the fuck up", so let me second 
the motion



get back in your box,

-j




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From mw-raves-return-14718-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:37:31 2001
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fifth, fuck you and your momma

how's that for maturity?

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At 12:05 PM 2001-01-19, you wrote:

>complain when there are two many messages
>complain when there aren't enough
>complain when they are too boring
>complain when they are too immature
>complain when they are from your dumb ass
>
>it's a freakin email list for chrissake...
>
>Noble
>
>part of the problem, not the solution
>
>
>yes, much better.....


first, i sent that to you privately because it was a worthless flame and i 
was bored

second, it's not a slam if you don't include my suggestion for an addition 
and how you attempted to turn it against me

third, this thread is quickly becoming the longest on any mailing list in 
history ever

fourth, you've already been told to "shut the fuck up", so let me second 
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get back in your box,

-j



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From mw-raves-return-14719-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 17:52:37 2001
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Subject: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight

tonight brothers in metal:

8pm until 2am (event will end promptly at 2am)

7$, 5$ if you come drenched in blood, or moderately soaked.

with 
    dj tron live, loki, ian morrison vs. miss               biobooster, chamberweed and kid entropy 
    
    plus hardcore bands:  he who corrupts, authority        abuse, and pretentious assholes.  

    plus live video loops and filming for delta 9's         upcoming enhanced cd.

NOTES:  NO RE-ENTRY, IF YOU ARE OUT YOU ARE OUT, SO GET WHAT YOU NEED BEFORE THE SHOW (HINT.)  ANYONE CAUGHT STANDING OUTSIDE THE VENUE WILL BE DECAPITATED AND USED FOR CANDY RAVERS TO GET 2$ DISCOUNTS.  BANDS WILL PLAY 15 MINUTE SETS BEFORE AND AFTER SOME DJ'S.  MIDDLE FINGER IS OPTIONAL.  

290 towards chicago
to western ave.
make a left at western ave.
to chicago ave.
make a right on chicago
address is
2116 w. chicago
between leavitt and hoyne
venue is THE ODUM

PLEASE BE KIND TO THE VENUE.  IF YOU DISPOSE OF ANY BOTTLES OR GARBAGE... USE A GARBAGE CAN PROVIDED.  WE HAVE TO CLEAN THIS SHIT UP AT THE END OF THE NIGHT.  PLEASE BE KIND AND REWIND.  DRESS CODE : GIMME HATS, HOLEY(OR UNHOLY FOR THAT MATTER) T-SHIRTS AND DIRTY PUMAS.

entro
ps... due to my motherfucking not being in the mood for the easy sounds of steppin', I'm playing very dirty tonight.  


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>p.s. If anyone else out there has heard of the "Mankind Project"

have a nice day!

the M is for mandible
the K is for klaw
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From mw-raves-return-14721-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 18:13:29 2001
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try it and you'll find K.I.T.T on your doorstep as a big square art deco
piece!!




-----Original Message-----
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At 02:09 PM 1/19/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>how do i unsub..i forgot

you have to fwd every message you've ever received from the list to 
nlong@Zethcon.com and son316east@aol.com, then you have to reformat your 
hard drive.

that should do it,
mk


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From mw-raves-return-14722-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 18:17:26 2001
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i was surprised to see steviet back on this list, but imagine my shock
that he's by no means the biggest disturbance as of late. in fact, i'm
impressed that people have managed to not get sucked into replying to him,
thus creating tedious neverending threads. now can we please learn to 
apply that ability elsewhere, to other threads?

/j













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> yah i raved with laffey for a bit, you musta talked to him before i was 
> inside the venue because i saw him rather quickly.

i was right by him most of the time i was there, but by 1245 or so i
wanted to be able to breathe and move freely, so i left before it was
over.

> yah those old tunes still kill me.  got to hear my personal favourite "give 
> me a dubplate".   woot!

i was dying to hear my all time fave ragga tune, "fire," but bailed
early. caught all of snuggles's set though, he played a buncha stuff off
the old silk cut tapes, which made me happy. slik cut vol. 2 has yet to
leave my car, and it's been like 5 years. :)

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From mw-raves-return-14724-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 18:23:44 2001
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What oakey won't be there? THAT SUCKS

onelove.
Noble

flamebait.

p.s. Actually, I'd give MK's left nut to go to this..but then he =
wouldn't
have any nuts left.

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i know this is beyond the midwest and far, far away, i
just enjoyed drooling over the "groups and artists
that will be playing the next night."=20

> OPENMINDED
> http://i.am/openminded    =20
> http://www.openminded.fsnet.co.uk/
>=20
> Who : Loopz (Dj) . gray (Dj) . VERY special guest Dj
> When : 26th January 2001=20
> Time : 08:00 till late
> Where : The Bear Tavern in Smethwick in Birmingham.
> B66 4BX
> Music : IDM / Electronica / Experimental / Ambient /
> BreakBeat
> Cost : =A31 only. Normal drink prices all night!
>=20
>=20
> Special thanx to all that came to the 1st event.
> Photos and a bit of Audio
> is now on the website. If you havent already -
> please sign the guestbook :)
>=20
> Groups and Artists that will be played at the next
> night:
> (808 state . add n to (x) . aphex twin . arovane .
> autechre . bjork .
> boards of canada . bump and grind . chemical
> brothers . confusion . cuba .
> distance . duplo beatbox . fizzarum . funkstorung .
> future sound of london . gescom . grover . higher
> intelligence agency .
> laurent garnier . leftfield . lfo . luke vibert .
> meat beat manifesto .
> medium . mogwai . mouse on mars . orbital . plaid .
> plone . polygon window
> . pram . quickspace supersport . radiohead .
> scan x . schematix . schizoid man . spaceman 3 .
> spectrum . spooky .
> squarepusher . stereolab . the high llamas .
> tele:funken . the orb .
> tortoise . trans am . turn on . uilab . uncle .
> underworld . u-ziq . wagon
> christ)
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> More updates soon....
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Subject: Re: [mw] brockout!

i don't think anyone played "fire" :(

mk, didn't hear it

>i was dying to hear my all time fave ragga tune, "fire," but bailed
>early. caught all of snuggles's set though, he played a buncha stuff off
>the old silk cut tapes, which made me happy. slik cut vol. 2 has yet to
>leave my car, and it's been like 5 years. :)

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From mw-raves-return-14726-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 18:41:16 2001
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though it means postponing doris woo bowling, i am so at this tonight.

/j

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> tonight brothers in metal:
> 
> 8pm until 2am (event will end promptly at 2am)
> 
> 7$, 5$ if you come drenched in blood, or moderately soaked.
> 
> with 
>     dj tron live, loki, ian morrison vs. miss               biobooster, chamberweed and kid entropy 
>     
>     plus hardcore bands:  he who corrupts, authority        abuse, and pretentious assholes.  
> 
>     plus live video loops and filming for delta 9's         upcoming enhanced cd.
> 
> NOTES:  NO RE-ENTRY, IF YOU ARE OUT YOU ARE OUT, SO GET WHAT YOU NEED BEFORE THE SHOW (HINT.)  ANYONE CAUGHT STANDING OUTSIDE THE VENUE WILL BE DECAPITATED AND USED FOR CANDY RAVERS TO GET 2$ DISCOUNTS.  BANDS WILL PLAY 15 MINUTE SETS BEFORE AND AFTER SOME DJ'S.  MIDDLE FINGER IS OPTIONAL.  
> 
> 290 towards chicago
> to western ave.
> make a left at western ave.
> to chicago ave.
> make a right on chicago
> address is
> 2116 w. chicago
> between leavitt and hoyne
> venue is THE ODUM
> 
> PLEASE BE KIND TO THE VENUE.  IF YOU DISPOSE OF ANY BOTTLES OR GARBAGE... USE A GARBAGE CAN PROVIDED.  WE HAVE TO CLEAN THIS SHIT UP AT THE END OF THE NIGHT.  PLEASE BE KIND AND REWIND.  DRESS CODE : GIMME HATS, HOLEY(OR UNHOLY FOR THAT MATTER) T-SHIRTS AND DIRTY PUMAS.
> 
> entro
> ps... due to my motherfucking not being in the mood for the easy sounds of steppin', I'm playing very dirty tonight.  
> 
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From mw-raves-return-14727-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 18:44:10 2001
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> i don't think anyone played "fire" :(

oh well, at least i didn't miss it.

we need one more brockout 101!!

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what fun is that, ya nerd?????

fiendin for some JesCam
shawne
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>
> i was surprised to see steviet back on this list, but imagine my shock
> that he's by no means the biggest disturbance as of late. in fact, i'm
> impressed that people have managed to not get sucked into replying to him,
> thus creating tedious neverending threads. now can we please learn to
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> /j
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i feel left out that i'm not pissing anyone off.

what can i do to be rude and stupid that wouldn't end up just being "oh that
goofy tony with his pee again".

-t

-----Original Message-----
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fifth, fuck you and your momma

how's that for maturity?

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At 12:05 PM 2001-01-19, you wrote:

>complain when there are two many messages
>complain when there aren't enough
>complain when they are too boring
>complain when they are too immature
>complain when they are from your dumb ass
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>though it means postponing doris woo bowling, i am so at this tonight.

dumb looking guy in oversized trousers and ruffneck playaz crew t-shirt = me !

mk
________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: [mw] Looking for Red Alert - Violet Love Vinyl

I was wondering if anyone out there had a copy 
of "Violet Love" by La Suite (Red Alert Label).  
If anyone does, please email me privately.  I 
need a favor.

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From mw-raves-return-14732-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 19:25:19 2001
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i believe i will be attending this event.

/me needed to post 
-t

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Subject: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight


tonight brothers in metal:

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can i complain publicly aobut the 30 minutes it takes posts to show up after
they are sent?

there, i did it.

-t

/me replies to himself stevie t style.

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i believe i will be attending this event.

/me needed to post 
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From mw-raves-return-14735-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 20:28:37 2001
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ok that one went right away.

/me will post further responses on mw-tony.

i'm annoying myself, i think i will try to talk myself into unsubsribing.
nope, it didn't work, i'm still here.
-t

-----Original Message-----
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can i complain publicly aobut the 30 minutes it takes posts to show up after
they are sent?

there, i did it.

-t

/me replies to himself stevie t style.

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Subject: RE: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight


i believe i will be attending this event.

/me needed to post 
-t

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From mw-raves-return-14736-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 20:47:50 2001
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Kids, Crack kills.

-D


----- Original Message -----
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> ok that one went right away.
>
> /me will post further responses on mw-tony.
>
> i'm annoying myself, i think i will try to talk myself into unsubsribing.
> nope, it didn't work, i'm still here.
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight
>
>
> can i complain publicly aobut the 30 minutes it takes posts to show up
after
> they are sent?
>
> there, i did it.
>
> -t
>
> /me replies to himself stevie t style.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> i believe i will be attending this event.
>
> /me needed to post
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From mw-raves-return-14737-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 20:49:45 2001
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i don't get laid enough to be a crack whore.

if i had some crack i might consider trading it for sex, but not w/ the
crack whore, maybe someone else tho.

its a good thing our economy is based on the dollar and not bartering with
crack rocks or every transaction would be this complicated.

is it 5pm yet? i wanna go home.
-t

-----Original Message-----
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Kids, Crack kills.

-D


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:27 PM
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> ok that one went right away.
>
> /me will post further responses on mw-tony.
>
> i'm annoying myself, i think i will try to talk myself into unsubsribing.
> nope, it didn't work, i'm still here.
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Sebion
> Subject: RE: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight
>
>
> can i complain publicly aobut the 30 minutes it takes posts to show up
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> they are sent?
>
> there, i did it.
>
> -t
>
> /me replies to himself stevie t style.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight
>
>
> i believe i will be attending this event.
>
> /me needed to post
> -t
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From mw-raves-return-14739-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 21:06:25 2001
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i will race you to being obnoxiously intoxicated.

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Jen Anderson
Subject: RE: [mw] directions to brothers in metal tonight


>===== Original Message From Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> =====
>i believe i will be attending this event.
>

Yes, as will I, in tow with Tony and Dica.

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From mw-raves-return-14740-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 21:10:08 2001
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Subject: [mw] BROTHERS IN METAL - LINEUP

Lineup is as follows:

DJ TRON UN-LIE-V 1:00-2:00
HE WHO CORRUPTS 12:45-1:00 (bring on the john)
LOKI - LIVE 11:45-12:45
IAN MORRISON VS. MISS
BIOBOOSTER 10:45-11:45
KID ENTROPY 10:00-10:45
PRETENTIOUS ASSHOLES 9:45-10:00
CHAMBERWEED 8:45-9:45
LE MANTRA 8:30-8:45

nuf grind babeh.

girls with cowboy hats or attire get evicted quicker than you can say oi.

entro

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From mw-raves-return-14741-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 21:17:57 2001
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http://www.state.nj.us/lps/generic_poster-lg.jpg

    Hahaha, yes, this is awesome, a drug enforcement program that actually
"gets it". I bet it was some graphic arts raver's punishment for being
caught with his stash or something. I'd also like to say that I feel for the
people on gruve's list that are gonna see all the comments from mw-ravers
"replying to all".

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From mw-raves-return-14742-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 21:19:01 2001
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Subject: [mw] L0r4sauce's Custom Kim!

Someone sent you Lil' KIM--the Queen Bee!

You can receive your Kim at the following URL:
http://www.romp.com/gopostal.php?kim=14195

Go buy her album, The Notorious KIM, in stores now.

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From mw-raves-return-14743-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 21:25:09 2001
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Subject: [mw] issues

why havent you guys been bitching/laughing about tv's portrayal of us lately? 
anyoen watch fox's *grounded for life*?  how about *just shoot me* on 
thanksgiving? or the young and the restless ?  or am i the only one who 
watches tv? i think its funny and accurate and wonderful...
i love crack too.....


/me snorts a big line of a ritalin/baking soda cocktail.

....l0r4sauce
================================
"That the birds of worry and care
fly around your head-this you cannot change
But that they build nests in your hair
That you can prevent"
--Chinese Proverb, author unknown
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From mw-raves-return-14744-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 19 21:34:22 2001
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    TV? I think I remember something about those things, they had them
around before the internet right?

Matt Murphy
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> why havent you guys been bitching/laughing about tv's portrayal of us
lately?
> anyoen watch fox's *grounded for life*?  how about *just shoot me* on
> thanksgiving? or the young and the restless ?  or am i the only one who
> watches tv? i think its funny and accurate and wonderful...
> i love crack too.....



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i dunno, aren't parties becoming more and more how they are portrayed by
sitcoms and teen dramas anyway?

its that art imitates life thing, except its more like non-art imitates
nightlife.  or something.  please kill me.

-t

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why havent you guys been bitching/laughing about tv's portrayal of us
lately? 
anyoen watch fox's *grounded for life*?  how about *just shoot me* on 
thanksgiving? or the young and the restless ?  or am i the only one who 
watches tv? i think its funny and accurate and wonderful...
i love crack too.....


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Applesawz909@aol.com writes:

<< or the young and the restless ? >>


you know I watch this l

I hope britney ods on E at the rave they are all gonna go to..
dumb bitch.

and tricia should have jumped out of her window..  dumb cunt.

<3lorie 

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yes!!! soon!!

http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/dj_sets/dj_set.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+2659297+3368420













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    Space invaders are smoking grass?

Matt Murphy
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>http://www.state.nj.us/lps/generic_poster-lg.jpg

let that be a lesson to you, kids:  if you see a large yellow circle with 
the word "NARC" inside it floating in the air and pointing to someone that 
is trying to buy drugs from you, YOU ARE BEING SET UP.

>     Hahaha, yes, this is awesome, a drug enforcement program that actually
>"gets it". I bet it was some graphic arts raver's punishment for being
>caught with his stash or something. I'd also like to say that I feel for the
>people on gruve's list that are gonna see all the comments from mw-ravers
>"replying to all".

yeah but if he had bcc'd, we wouldn't all get to see how cool he is for 
knowing a bunch of deejayz!!!!!  DOH!!

crunchy tacos are two for 99 cents!!!!

mk
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i think it'd be kinda funny to cc: paul johnson on every email i sent.

especially me, becuase my mail is always so interesting...

got pee?
-t

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yeah but if he had bcc'd, we wouldn't all get to see how cool he is for 
knowing a bunch of deejayz!!!!!  DOH!!

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http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/dj_sets/dj_set.shtml?2534202+2584688+2584508+2659182+2543284

go listen to that, too. it's somewhere between acid techno, trance, and a swift kick to the grill.


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>i think it'd be kinda funny to cc: paul johnson on every email i sent.

he was on here for awhile, were you on here then?

on a clear day you can CC: my johnson

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i've seen him post a few times but i dont think i've seen him post since he
stopped showing up for scheduled appearances.

-t

ps - young guns, that maneuver is called "trolling".

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>i think it'd be kinda funny to cc: paul johnson on every email i sent.

he was on here for awhile, were you on here then?

on a clear day you can CC: my johnson

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that was back when we fought about queers.

wanna do it again?

they suck,
-t

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>i think it'd be kinda funny to cc: paul johnson on every email i sent.

he was on here for awhile, were you on here then?

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> go listen to that, too. it's somewhere between acid techno, trance, and a swift kick to the grill.

daggit, i haven't had a chance to hear it yet. say it ain't so! i don't
wanna be 'aavin it!!

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Heh.. C'mon now, do you think I would post a link if it really sounded anything like that?
It's trashy nowave/electro - the way I like it. She even plays Synthesized.. Yum.



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I'm sorry, that track is called "Synthecide". Forgive me.

& wait to you hear what follows it..


                                       
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>===== Original Message From Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> =====
>i believe i will be attending this event.
>

Yes, as will I, in tow with Tony and Dica.


:)

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>===== Original Message From Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> =====
>i will race you to being obnoxiously intoxicated.
>
>-t

If you're buying, I am *so* down for that


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>why havent you guys been bitching/laughing about tv's portrayal of us lately?

i haven't seen anything on TV about a bunch of post-rave cynics that 
interact via their computers all week long.

mk
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    FACP  presents   EAT SWISS  January 27th Columbus, Oh.

                    With Special Guests, from Just Plain Positive
                     from Philadelphia, PA.
                      DJs:      
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                        Bringing you the styles of : trace tech, house 
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            Local DJs include: 
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Particularly listen to the cut that comes in at around 23 minutes.




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bahhaahahahahahahahahaha.  that's about the funniest thing i've ever read!!

mk, lol

>     FACP  presents   EAT SWISS  January 27th Columbus, Oh.


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nay sir, i would not.

mk

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>that was back when we fought about queers.
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>wanna do it again?


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nay sir, i would not.

mk

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Subject: [mw] I'm NEW to this list!!!

Hey hey party people - 

This be my virgin offering to the MW Raves!!

I've heard some things about you all that I find
comforting for some odd reason...

Ya' see, I've been on too many discussion groups that
are so damn uptight and conservative and it so hard to
say 'FUCK YOU' without fear of getting booted off the
list.

>From the slurry of emails that I glanced over it seems
like I've found a group of semi to heavy sarcastic
individuals who aren't afraid to speak their minds.

So... with that said why don't you all give me a warm
welcome to MW Rave's and see just what kind of
suppressed inner angst you can extract from the likes
of me.  

I promise I will be promt and fair in all replies even
though my argumentative strategies might seem to urk
the individual who never got their ass kicked in grade
school!!! (lol)

My name is Scotty Bartelt aka DJ Cook >> Madison

I am 31 years old, been raving since DBN's Tempest
event in '92 (i think), began djing in '93, started a
smartdrink Co in '94 called 'Cottonmouth'... on and on
and on...

I've recently started up a weekly club in Madtown
called FLIRT which goes off every Friday at the
Imperial Palace chinese Resturaunt.  It's a 21+ event
and after our 12th show we've been the talk of the
town, and we've only just begun, I assure you.

Anyway.... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!

Respekt - Scotty

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> though my argumentative strategies might seem to urk

DUDE!  It's spelled irk!

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hey is anyone going to Urban Take Over tomorrow... apparently they changed
the venue... thank god cuz i know they were gonna use Harvey and I'm getting
sick of that place...

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  oma-raves@egroups.com, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@world.std.com,
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Subject: [mw] ***PULSE*** Jan 27 Featuring the Djs from the Movie GROVE!

Cloudbreak Productions Presents..... 

***PULSE*** 

A Benefit For The American Cancer Society 

**All Proceeds Benefit The American Cancer Society** 

Saturday, January 27th 

10-6am 

$15 Presale 

$20 

412-808-3306 

cloudbreakproductions@yahoo.com 

17+ with Valad Id 

----------------------------------------------------- 

The Main Room: 

 

Forest Green (Sister SF, Cloud Factory, Organized
Chaos, FnF,San Fran Actively involved in the
world-wide underground dance scene, Forest Green spins
Techno, Electro, House and various derivatives of all
other electronic music. She is involved in Many
projects and collectives through out the San Francisco
Bay Area and Canada, and is featured in the movie
GROOVE, an independent feature film set during one
night in the San Fran underground rave scene. 

 

Bing Ching- (Focus, SF) aka DJ Snaz from the movie
Groovespinning some deep house to get your ass
grooving. 

 

The Mighty Mezz (F.E.S.P.) A New York resident comes
back to Pittsburgh to take you on a journey with his
seamless blend of progressive beats and trance-core
energy. 

 

Andrew Phelan-(Seismic Productions) Chicago deep disco
and hard house. This guy has held residency's in
Chicago and has been spinning in Ohio currently. Come
check him out!!! 

 

Tim vs. Ted Zelch-(Twin Productions) These guys are
gonna blow your mind tagging an awesome set. Their
residents at groove every friday at Club Laga. 

 

DJ Messy (CloudBreak Productions / Lolli.org) CD
Release Party DJ Messy will be releasing his new CD
Verkurzt with awesome sounds of Progressive House and
UK Hardhouse. You can't miss this!!! Free giveaways!!!
Just Listen!
http://www.chemlab.org/archives.php4?mode=artist&artist_name=DJ+Messy


 

Kingpin (CloudBreak Productions) A newer DJ that is
making his name known in the Pittsburgh scene spinning
progressive house and trance. 

----------------------------------------------------- 

The Dnb Room: 

Aria & L. Black (Good Looking Records / Skunkwerks /
3WP)Dj Aria is fast becoming the most popular
Intell/Atmospheric DnB Djs in both the Mid-west and in
US along with Mc L. Black (who recently got a
recording contract a off of LTJ Bukem's GOOD LOOKING
recording label),This should be an Eye opening
experience for all who love the Intelligent sound of
Dn'B! If you missed his set at Chaoticotic Trans or at
Acclerate heresA sample of what you'll be Hearing:
http://www.chemlab.org/cgi-bin/make.m3u?arch=chaotic_transdimension&track=aria%2Bmc_black

 

Focus (Murder On Deck ,Hypersonic,fuNCtionSE)(Nc) One
of Nc's finest Djs, he has been blowing up in
NC,Fl,Pa, and in OH! His technical wizardry and track
selection is definatley something you do not want
miss! 

 

Adam Bomb BatteredArmidillo/y-town First appearence in
Pgh! dropping some dark atomic bombs for the junglist
massiv' 

 

Binac (aka nicky bulletproof) systembulletproof /
412dnb.lm.com The founding father of 412's Bulletproof
an a operative who has been a staple in the pittsburgh
drum n bass community for years Nick has been
responsibile for bringing in some of the best Dn'B
talent to pgh now as a Dj he has been growing in
popularity 

 

DJ Depth/with Mc Nicka FaithinDn'B/Pgh 
Dj Depth is one of Pgh newest and brightest stars
along with Mc Nicka who was introduced recently as pgh
newest DnB mc's will put on set plesant to the ears! 

 

MVP (412dnb crew / Pittsburgh) FUZE Resident and
Winner of the Atomic battle of the DJ's. This guy has
been throwing down hard ass jungle in Pittsburgh for
over 4 years. His smooth mixing ability and tight cuts
are down to keep your head banging. Don't miss this
set. 

 

Dj Kuggs FaithinDn'B 

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Giveaways all night from Kinetic Records

(they did the soundtrack for the movie Groove) !!! 

Cancer information booth too!!! 

Come out and support a good cause and have a great
time!!!



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Subject: [mw] FROST DIRECTIONS 01.20.01

FROST
SATURDAY, JANUARY 20TH, 2001
INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA
10PM-6AM
$20 AT THE DOOR (NO PRE-SALE)

DIRECTIONS . . .=20

NEW VENUE!!!
THE NORTH SIDE BINGO HALL
THIS IS A NEWLY RENOVATED VENUE ON THE NEAR NORTH SIDE OF INDIANAPOLIS!!!  I=
T=20
IS CALLED THE NORTH SIDE BINGO HALL.  THE BINGO HALL IS LOCATED AT THE CORNE=
R=20
OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD ON THE NEAR NORTH SIDE OF=20
INDIANAPOLIS.  THERE IS A LARGE YELLOW BINGO SIGN IN FRONT OF THE VENUE.

INDIANAPOLIS: =20

THE BINGO HALL IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE=20
ROAD (JUST SOUTH OF 71ST & MICHIGAN) ON THE NEAR NORTH SIDE OF INDIANAPOLIS=20
(THE MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD INTERSECTION HAS A STOP-LIGHT.)  THE=20
BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.=20=
=20
THE BINGO HALL IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THERE IS A=20
LARGE YELLOW BINGO SIGN IN FRONT OF THE VENUE.

NORTH SIDE - PLEASE GET ON I-465 WEST AND FOLLOW I-465 TO THE MICHIGAN ROAD=20
EXIT.  PLEASE GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN LEFT (OR SOUTH) ONT=
O=20
MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL YOU=20
REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A=20
STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT TH=
E=20
CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS=20
LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE=20
YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

SOUTH SIDE - PLEASE GET ON I-465 WEST AND FOLLOW I-465 AROUND TO THE NORTH=20
SIDE OF TOWN (I-465 MAKES A LOOP AROUND THE CITY.)  PLEASE GET OFF ON THE=20
MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN RIGHT (OR SOUTH) ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE=20
FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL YOU REACH THE CORNER OF=20
MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A STOP-LIGHT AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT THE CORNER OF MICHIGA=
N=20
AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK=
=20
GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE=
=20
TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE YELLOW BINGO SIGN.


OUT OF TOWN:


CHICAGO - PLEASE FOLLOW I-65 SOUTH TO I-465 EAST.  PLEASE FOLLOW=20
I-465 EAST AND GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN RIGHT (OR SOUTH)=20
ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL=
=20
YOU REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A=20
STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT TH=
E=20
CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS=20
LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE=20
YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

ANDERSON, MUNCIE, FORT WAYNE AND DETROIT - PLEASE FOLLOW I-69 SOUTH TO I-465=
=20
WEST.  PLEASE FOLLOW I-465 WEST TO THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT.  PLEASE GET OFF O=
N=20
THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN LEFT (OR SOUTH) ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE=20
FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL YOU REACH THE CORNER OF=20
MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A STOP-LIGHT AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT THE CORNER OF MICHIGA=
N=20
AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK=
=20
GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE=
=20
TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

DAYTON, COLUMBUS AND CLEVELAND - PLEASE FOLLOW I-70 WEST TO=20
I-465 NORTH.  PLEASE FOLLOW I-465 NORTH AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN=20
(I-465 MAKES A LOOP AROUND THE CITY.)  PLEASE GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD=20
EXIT AND TURN LEFT (OR SOUTH) ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN=20
ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL YOU REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND=20
TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO=20
HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.=20=
=20
THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK=20
ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE=20
BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

CINCINNATI - PLEASE FOLLOW I-74 TO I-465 NORTH.  PLEASE FOLLOW I-465 NORTH=20
AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN (I-465 MAKES A LOOP AROUND THE CITY.) =20
PLEASE GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN LEFT (OR SOUTH) ONTO=20
MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL YOU=20
REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A=20
STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT TH=
E=20
CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS=20
LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE=20
YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

LOUISVILLE - PLEASE FOLLOW I-65 NORTH TO I-465 WEST.  PLEASE GET ON I-465 WE=
ST
 AND FOLLOW I-465 AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN (I-465 MAKES A LOOP AROUN=
D=20
THE CITY.)  PLEASE GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN RIGHT (OR=20
SOUTH) ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILE=
S=20
UNTIL YOU REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS=
=20
A STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT=20
THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS=20
LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE=20
YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

TERRE HAUTE - PLEASE FOLLOW I-70 EAST TO I-465 NORTH.  PLEASE GET ON I-465=20
NORTH AND FOLLOW I-465 AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN (I-465 MAKES A LOOP=20
AROUND THE CITY.)  PLEASE GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN RIGHT=20
(OR SOUTH) ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3=20
MILES UNTIL YOU REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD=20
(THERE IS A STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOU=
R=20
LEFT AT THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS A=
T=20
THIS INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS=
=20
LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE=20
YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

DANVILLE - PLEASE FOLLOW I-74 TO I-465 NORTH.  PLEASE GET ON I-465 NORTH AND=
=20
FOLLOW I-465 AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN (I-465 MAKES A LOOP AROUND THE=
=20
CITY.)  PLEASE GET OFF ON THE MICHIGAN ROAD EXIT AND TURN RIGHT (OR SOUTH)=20
ONTO MICHIGAN ROAD.  PLEASE FOLLOW MICHIGAN ROAD APPROXIMATELY 3 MILES UNTIL=
=20
YOU REACH THE CORNER OF MICHIGAN ROAD AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD (THERE IS A=20
STOP-LIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.)  THE BINGO HALL WILL BE ON YOUR LEFT AT TH=
E=20
CORNER OF MICHIGAN AND TOWNSHIP LINE ROAD.  THE BEST LANDMARKS AT THIS=20
INTERSECTION ARE A CLARK GAS STATION AND A BANK ONE.  THE BINGO HALL IS=20
LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THESE TWO LANDMARKS.  THE BINGO HALL HAS A LARGE=20
YELLOW BINGO SIGN.

WE=E2=80=99RE FEELIN=E2=80=99 FROSTY TONIGHT BABY, OH YEAH!

EVERYONE PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME AND DRIVE SAFELY!!!

FOR MORE DETAILS AND DIRECTIONS PLEASE CONTACT
SCARAB RECORDS @

SCARAB RECORDS
317.767.5103
317.290.7477
SCARABRECORDS@AOL.COM
WWW.SCARABRECORDS.COM

THANK YOU

THE SCARAB BOYS ;-)

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Ok, 'urk' is spelled irk, and 'respekt' is spelled respect.  How old are
you? 31? sheesh... and it also very low brow to drop 'how old school' you
are by using exact dates.  You are supposed  to just 'offhand' mention
really old parties you went to in conversation (even if its irrelevant to
the conversation at hand).

tad

At 05:50 PM 1/19/01 -0800, scott bartelt wrote:
>Hey hey party people - 
>
>This be my virgin offering to the MW Raves!!
>
>I've heard some things about you all that I find
>comforting for some odd reason...
>
>Ya' see, I've been on too many discussion groups that
>are so damn uptight and conservative and it so hard to
>say 'FUCK YOU' without fear of getting booted off the
>list.
>
>>From the slurry of emails that I glanced over it seems
>like I've found a group of semi to heavy sarcastic
>individuals who aren't afraid to speak their minds.
>
>So... with that said why don't you all give me a warm
>welcome to MW Rave's and see just what kind of
>suppressed inner angst you can extract from the likes
>of me.  
>
>I promise I will be promt and fair in all replies even
>though my argumentative strategies might seem to urk
>the individual who never got their ass kicked in grade
>school!!! (lol)
>
>My name is Scotty Bartelt aka DJ Cook >> Madison
>
>I am 31 years old, been raving since DBN's Tempest
>event in '92 (i think), began djing in '93, started a
>smartdrink Co in '94 called 'Cottonmouth'... on and on
>and on...
>
>I've recently started up a weekly club in Madtown
>called FLIRT which goes off every Friday at the
>Imperial Palace chinese Resturaunt.  It's a 21+ event
>and after our 12th show we've been the talk of the
>town, and we've only just begun, I assure you.
>
>Anyway.... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
>
>Respekt - Scotty
>
>=====
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Scott Bartelt
>   aka theDJcook
>   dj / promoter
>thedjcook@yahoo.com 
>aol = thekitchenboy
>xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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so somehow my entire website directory got erased since the last time i
checked, so i've decided just to move to anabug.com and start over (for
the most part).  that's it.  just in case you were wondering where it went
and all.  but i doubt you were.

-ana (notsogoth)

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>You are supposed  to just 'offhand' mention
> really old parties you went to in conversation (even if its irrelevant to
> the conversation at hand).


LOL!!!


Now someone knows what's up!!

darw_n

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    FACP  presents   EAT SWISS  January 27th Columbus, Oh.

                    With Special Guests, from Just Plain Positive
                     from Philadelphia, PA.
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            Local DJs include: 
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                                Jesse James
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            INFO: (614) 470-DOWN 
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Hey Scotty,
Welcome to the mw-raves. It's me Brad V from FUNKenterprises of Milwaukee.
Have fun here! We'll talk soon about our  upcoming ventures we've discussed.
If you need anything in the meantime, don't hesitate to call! Talk to you
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----- Original Message -----
From: "scott bartelt" <thedjcook@yahoo.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 7:50 PM
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> Hey hey party people -
>
> This be my virgin offering to the MW Raves!!
>
> I've heard some things about you all that I find
> comforting for some odd reason...
>
> Ya' see, I've been on too many discussion groups that
> are so damn uptight and conservative and it so hard to
> say 'FUCK YOU' without fear of getting booted off the
> list.
>
> From the slurry of emails that I glanced over it seems
> like I've found a group of semi to heavy sarcastic
> individuals who aren't afraid to speak their minds.
>
> So... with that said why don't you all give me a warm
> welcome to MW Rave's and see just what kind of
> suppressed inner angst you can extract from the likes
> of me.
>
> I promise I will be promt and fair in all replies even
> though my argumentative strategies might seem to urk
> the individual who never got their ass kicked in grade
> school!!! (lol)
>
> My name is Scotty Bartelt aka DJ Cook >> Madison
>
> I am 31 years old, been raving since DBN's Tempest
> event in '92 (i think), began djing in '93, started a
> smartdrink Co in '94 called 'Cottonmouth'... on and on
> and on...
>
> I've recently started up a weekly club in Madtown
> called FLIRT which goes off every Friday at the
> Imperial Palace chinese Resturaunt.  It's a 21+ event
> and after our 12th show we've been the talk of the
> town, and we've only just begun, I assure you.
>
> Anyway.... that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
>
> Respekt - Scotty
>
> =====
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Scott Bartelt
>    aka theDJcook
>    dj / promoter
> thedjcook@yahoo.com
> aol = thekitchenboy
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
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Happy 2001 Moonshiners,

This January (as with all Januaries ) we will be kicking the New Year off
with the newest installment of Happy 2b Hardcore Chapter 5. Anabolic Frolic
is once again at the helm. He=E2=80=99s picked the happiest of all hardcore=20=
tracks
and cut, mixed and beat matched them like only he can. If you like Happy
Hardcore, then  Happy 2b Hardcore Chapter 5  is a must have CD.  It  will be
in stores this Tuesday, January 23rd.  You can, of course, check out the
track listing and hear some samples on our web site.

He's been called "America's Number One Trance DJ" by Muzik Magazine.
Christopher Lawrence has a new mixed CD coming out on January 23rd as well,
United States of Trance. This mix is going to set the standard for the rest
of the DJs to follow. Christopher has put together a collection of tracks
that you=E2=80=99ve never heard on a mixed CD including his newest offering,=
 Cruise
Control. I think you will enjoy his selection of slightly darker more
introspective tracks.

If any of you have seen the TV trailer for the film Snatch, yes that is
Cirrus' track 'Break In.' It's not on the soundtrack but you can find the
song on Cirrus' "Drop The Break" LP/CD/CS

While everyone else was enjoying a welcome break over Xmas, we have been
working to give you more great music from established Moonshine favorites,
as well as some new talent.   Here=E2=80=99s just a sneak peak at what we ha=
ve
planed for you:

The next installment of "Mixed Live" (remember "Carl Cox - Mixed Live" from
last year) moves to Drum & Bass.  On the decks this time: AK1200 joined by
MC Navigator (from The Freestlyer=E2=80=99s)   This album was recorded live=20=
on the
San Francisco stop of Moonshine Overamerica 2000 and will be available in
February.

We are happy to add a female DJ to roster with the signing of "Misstress
Barbara" from Montreal Canada.  If you have not already heard about her, you
so will.  Besides producing music on her own label, Relentless, she DJs
around the world playing hard banging house and techno (in a similar style
to Carl Cox).  Her debut DJ mixed CD "Relentless Beats" will be available in
February.  Hear it, and you'll find out why Carl Cox, DJ Dan and Donald
Glaude are big fans of hers.

Moonshine=E2=80=99s favorite son, Keoki has been working non-stop on his nex=
t artist
album, Jealousy. The first single, Pass It On, will be out on vinyl  in
March.   We already released it with our friends at Napster, so feel free to
grab the file at napster.com

OK now the moment you=E2=80=99ve all been waiting for=E2=80=A6The give-away!
Answer these three questions found on this page:

http://www.moonshine.com/contests

by January 25th and we will pick 3 people to
win the new CDs from Anabolic Frolic and Christopher Lawrence.=20

Gabe
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Check out new music at www.forthosewhoknow.net

We have added four tracks by dj Cluster, and will be adding even more in
the next few weeks.  We have also been changing our site design a little,
and we will be adding some new things in the very near future.

Attention Cincy-Dayton heads:  Vinny Bricks will be behind the decks at
the Synchronicty after-hours at Sirens in Dayton on Sunday January 28th.
Come check him out, and watch him dropping FOR THOSE WHO KNOW dub plates
throughout his set!  For more info on Synchronicity, check out their
website: www.jomamaproductions.homestead.com

Hope you all had a happy new year!

peace-
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Cluster
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OK.... Bush is now the President. I'm getting all my herb and all my guns
and i'm running to the back woods wehre he can't get me... Republican
bastard.... Just so you all know, I don't like him. That does not mean i
dislike republicans either. But he sucks fat cocks. There's no other way to
put it. May God/Goddess help us all.

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I'm going... I'll be wearing a kitty mini back pack...  yea i'm really
curious as to where it shall be.  i heard an abandoned shopping mall 
hehe.  i think it is still in Harvey, IL though.   so maybe i'll meet
some of ya tonite

Eliot Stanton wrote:
> 
> hey is anyone going to Urban Take Over tomorrow... apparently they changed
> the venue... thank god cuz i know they were gonna use Harvey and I'm getting
> sick of that place...
> 
> Eliot - The guy with glowsticks stuck in his mohawk
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i'll 2nd the motion that FLIRT is the place to be on a friday in madison.

howdy scott
-tony (the guy in the drop bass shirt you met a week or 2 back that you had
jsn111 follow in the bathroom 'cuz you thought i was sneaking in but i
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I've recently started up a weekly club in Madtown
called FLIRT which goes off every Friday at the
Imperial Palace chinese Resturaunt.  It's a 21+ event
and after our 12th show we've been the talk of the
town, and we've only just begun, I assure you.

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Subject: [mw] TONIGHT!!! Wishing On A Star

its on tonight kids. ill be there working..say HI!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Wishing Well Productions presents.......

         Wishing On A Star in Dayton, Ohio featuring...

         Richard Humpty Vission(Los Angeles, CA)-currently in the 
studio working on
         a remix with Madonna for her new cd coming out soon.

         Dj Groove(Los Angeles, CA)-currently on his North American 
tour supporting
         his new compilation on Max Music entitled "Essentials".

         Freaky Flow and MC Flipside(Toronto)-these are just bad and if you 
have
         not seen them before make sure you check this duo out on this special
         coming to you straight from Toronto.

         Kos-(West Parkersburg, WV)"The Turntable Terrorist" If you 
have not caught
         this guy's set at a party yet make sure you do it soon. As up 
and coming
         as he is, he won't be in this area much longer. This is the most
         underrated dj in the midwest. You have heard of him, but have you 
seen
         him, make sure you do on January 20th.

         Dj Ruckus-(Detroit, MI)This guy is a resident DJ at John 
Aquaviva's club
         "Lush" and is about to rip it up.

         Ashley Power-(Nashville, TN)This awesome trance DJ has 3 cd's 
out and 12
         years experience. If you have heard him play or caught one of 
his sets the
         tearstains on your cheeks should say it all. This guy is pure bliss.

         React-(Cincinnati)This guy is an awesome promoter/dj that has 
made names
         for himself all over the Midwest already. His techno will 
"reset" your jaw
         after hearing him rock the tables.

         Derrick B-(Lexington, KY)Derrick is coming back to Cincy to show why 
he
         has played all over the world and rocked heads with his awesome house
         music.

         Matt Freeman-(Dayton, OH)This awesome producer just got done 
with a track
         in which Paul Johnson and Paul Birken were involved. Give it up for 
the
         hometown favorite that just brought you Speaker Phreakin'.

         Notty-(U.K., Indianapolis)Notty has made a name for himself here in 
the
         states with his trance and also his phatass parties like the 
one he just
         through, Destination. Make sure you check him out, he doesn't have 
just
         parties under his sleeve.

         Mack Brassel-(Cincinnati)aka "the brain twister" this will be his 
first
         performance at a party in five years. Watch out, you might get 
twisted.

         Faelix-(Cincinnati)This cat is the most up and coming DJ in 
area. Trance,
         hard house it doesn't matter, he will warp that mind of yours 
and make you
         dance.

         Cyberspeed-(Cincinnati)Progressive house and breaks-----------Florida
         Style.

         LMNO-(Cincinnati)This boy scratched it up with DJ Craze the 
last time he
         was here. Make sure you check this record rippin kid out.

         Vixen-(Nashville, TN)If you didn't get to catch this girlie's 
set out at
         Teknosaurus 7 you missed it. She tore it up just she is going to do 
at
         this awesome event. By the way, she doesn't look too shabby
         either-haha-this girl is hot.

         Runtrane-(Lexington, KY)This young gun will be making his first party
         performance ever and is about to tear up some records with his drum 
and
         bass scratching ability.

         The BzA-(Elizabethtown, KY)A hip-hop scratching maniac with 12 years
         experience making his first big party debut.

         <><><><><><><><><>Awesome sound and lighting brought to you by Xtreme
         Sound
         from Detroit, MI.
         <><><><><><><><><>Two large video screens brought to you by 
VJ Jbrick from
         Pittsburgh, PA.
         <><><><><><><><><>Two massage tables and two professional 
masseuses will
         be
         on hand to take care of those dancing aches brought to you by 
Full Circle
         out
         of Lexington, Ky.

         XXXXXXXXPresale Tickets available at the following 
locationsXXXXXXXXXXXXX
         Clubhead Records          Better Days Records
         Main St.                        Louisville, KY
         Cincinnati, OH                502-456-1554
         513-665-9999
         XXXXXXXXPresale Tickets are $20 available until January 
5thXXXXXXXXXXXXX
         Admission at the door is $25 with clothing or canned food
         donation-------------

         ****If you have questions or comments please leave a message 
on the Wish
         Line
         and also check there a few days before the party for directions.
         859-727-WISH

Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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Subject: [mw] ***PULSE*** Jan 27 Featuring the Djs from the Movie GROVE!


 Cloudbreak Productions Presents..... 
 
 ***PULSE*** 
 
 A Benefit For The American Cancer Society 
 
 **All Proceeds Benefit The American Cancer Society**
 
 
 Saturday, January 27th 
 
  In Pittsburgh Pa 

  10-6am 
 
 $15 Presale 
 
 $20 
 
 412-808-3306 
 
 cloudbreakproductions@yahoo.com 
 
 17+ with Valad Id 
 
 -----------------------------------------------------
 
 
 The Main Room: 
 
  
 
 Forest Green (Sister SF, Cloud Factory, Organized
 Chaos, FnF,San Fran Actively involved in the
 world-wide underground dance scene, Forest Green
 spins Techno, Electro, House and various derivatives
 of all other electronic music. She is involved in
Many
 projects and collectives through out the San
 Francisco Bay Area and Canada, and is featured in the
 movie GROOVE, an independent feature film set during
 one night in the San Fran underground rave scene. 
 
  
 
 Bing Ching- (Focus, SF) aka DJ Snaz from the movie
 Groovespinning some deep house to get your ass
 grooving. 
 
  
 
 The Mighty Mezz (F.E.S.P.) A New York resident comes
 back to Pittsburgh to take you on a journey with his
 seamless blend of progressive beats and trance-core
 energy. 
 
  
 
 Andrew Phelan-(Seismic Productions) Chicago deep
 disco and hard house. This guy has held residency's
in
 Chicago and has been spinning in Ohio currently.
 Come check him out!!! 
 
  
 
 Tim vs. Ted Zelch-(Twin Productions) These guys are
 gonna blow your mind tagging an awesome set. Their
 residents at groove every friday at Club Laga. 
 
  
 
 DJ Messy (CloudBreak Productions / Lolli.org) CD
 Release Party DJ Messy will be releasing his new CD
 Verkurzt with awesome sounds of Progressive House
 and UK Hardhouse. You can't miss this!!! Free
 giveaways!!!
 Just Listen!

http://www.chemlab.org/archives.php4?mode=artist&artist_name=DJ+Messy
 
 
  
 
 Kingpin (CloudBreak Productions) A newer DJ that is
 making his name known in the Pittsburgh scene
 spinning progressive house and trance. 
 
-----------------------------------------------------
 
 
 The Dnb Room: 
 
 Aria & L. Black (Good Looking Records / Skunkwerks /
 3WP)Dj Aria is fast becoming the most popular
 Intell/Atmospheric DnB Djs in both the Mid-west and
 in US along with Mc L. Black (who recently got a
 recording contract a off of LTJ Bukem's GOOD LOOKING
 recording label),This should be an Eye opening
 experience for all who love the Intelligent sound of
 Dn'B! If you missed his set at Chaoticotic Trans or
 at Acclerate heresA sample of what you'll be Hearing:

http://www.chemlab.org/cgi-bin/make.m3u?arch=chaotic_transdimension&track=aria%2Bmc_black
 
  
 
 Focus (Murder On Deck ,Hypersonic,fuNCtionSE)(Nc)
 One of Nc's finest Djs, he has been blowing up in
 NC,Fl,Pa, and in OH! His technical wizardry and
 track selection is definatley something you do not
 want miss! 
 
  
 
 Adam Bomb BatteredArmidillo/y-town First appearence
 in Pgh! dropping some dark atomic bombs for the
 junglist massiv' 
 
  
 
 Binac (aka nicky bulletproof) systembulletproof /
 412dnb.lm.com The founding father of 412's
 Bulletproof an a operative who has been a staple in
 the pittsburgh drum n bass community for years
Nickhas
 been responsibile for bringing in some of the best
 Dn'B talent to pgh now as a Dj he has been growing in
 popularity 
 
  
 
 DJ Depth/with Mc Nicka FaithinDn'B/Pgh 
 Dj Depth is one of Pgh newest and brightest stars
 along with Mc Nicka who was introduced recently as
 pgh newest DnB mc's will put on set plesant to the
 ears!
 
 
  
 
 MVP (412dnb crew / Pittsburgh) FUZE Resident and
 Winner of the Atomic battle of the DJ's. This guy
 has been throwing down hard ass jungle in Pittsburgh
 for over 4 years. His smooth mixing ability and tight
 cuts are down to keep your head banging. Don't miss  
 this set. 
 
  
 
 Dj Kuggs FaithinDn'B 
 
--------------------------------------------
 
 Giveaways all night from Kinetic Records
 
 (they did the soundtrack for the movie Groove) !!! 
 
 Cancer information booth too!!! 
 
 Come out and support a good cause and have a great
 time!!!
 


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Subject: [mw] looking for Mpls/StPaul - west wisconsin parties

Anyone know of any email lists or sites devoted to this area?
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> Anyone know of any email lists or sites devoted to this area?

www.mnvibe.com

a collaboration between mnrave.com and TheVibe.

pretty damn exciting.

anyway, i'm sure you'll find what you're looking for there.


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Hello again,=20
To those near Fort Wayne (and those willing to travel here for kickass =
dj's), here is an update of Nocturnal events coming soon:

Friday January 26th
A slice of Chicago featuring:
Mark Almaria - ABS, Lunchbox Music
Kevin Cunningham - Rawkuts, Canvas, Jello-Multimedia
Luis Aguilera - Full Spectrum, Life Productions
$15 at the door, 9pm to 5am or ??

And of course every Friday and Saturday night we are bringing you all =
your favorite local dj's featuring:
Mad Chiller
Eclipse
Furious D
Empulse
Matt Bell
Jack Schitt
Nicholas Kane
Nick DeFlippo
Symmetric
and we also have America's only resident Live P.A. (that we know of):
Sense Datum

We are open Fridays 9pm to 5am=20
Women get in free before Midnight and just $3 after, $5 for the rest of =
ya!

and Saturdays 9pm to 6am.
$5 before 11pm and $7 after
All ages, no alcohol, you know the routine!

For directions and other info, email me or call 219-426-6930
j - symmetric
check out the Noize Boyz mailing list:=20
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Subject: Re: [mw] looking for Mpls/StPaul - west wisconsin parties

Try the Dallas Orbitor Website and its contacts. They are a group with
strong ties to the dance-music-community in the Minneapolis area:
www.dallasorbiter.f2s.com



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   http://www.savehemp.org

   Apparently the DEA is set to criminalize all hemp products

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Subject: RE: [mw] Urban Take Over

Ok their using the Midway theatre... i'll be the guy with glosticks in his
mohawk.. say hi to me! i promise i'm friendly...

Eliot

> -----Original Message-----
> From: psyche [mailto:psyche@ameritech.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:13 PM
> To: Eliot Stanton
> Subject: Re: [mw] Urban Take Over
>
>
> I'm going... I'll be wearing a kitty mini back pack...  yea i'm really
> curious as to where it shall be.  i heard an abandoned shopping mall
> hehe.  i think it is still in Harvey, IL though.   so maybe i'll meet
> some of ya tonite
>
> Eliot Stanton wrote:
> >
> > hey is anyone going to Urban Take Over tomorrow... apparently
> they changed
> > the venue... thank god cuz i know they were gonna use Harvey
> and I'm getting
> > sick of that place...
> >
> > Eliot - The guy with glowsticks stuck in his mohawk
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> Try the Dallas Orbitor Website and its contacts. They are a group with
> strong ties to the dance-music-community in the Minneapolis area:
> www.dallasorbiter.f2s.com

    They are? Since when? I've never heard of these guys... 

Matt Murphy
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Subject: [mw] KEVIN YOST, TRAXX, TWILIGHTSLEEP!!!

intellifeforms proudly presents

EARTH INVERSE
2.16.01
LEXINGTON KY

**the first 50 people through the door will recieve a
free multi media mix cd from trevor lamont and matthew
bandy (this is the first mix release trevor lamont has
put out in 4 years!)**

also a full rig of turbo sound!

FEATURING:

KEVIN YOST

_Kevin can be summed up in two words: unique
producer. His unique style, a jazz and house fusion,
has given him world reknown recognition. Kevin's
talents have taken him to prestigious labels like i!
Recordings, Distant Music, Guidance and such major
labels as Polygram and Sony. Not only has he put
releases out on such prestigeous labels but Kevin has
done remixes for the likes of Eric Clapton, Every
Thing
But the Girl, Josh Wink, and Japan's Kodo Drumers. As
well as his production skills Kevin has proved to be a
powerful skilled DJ by playing at Venues in Germany,
Japan, Switzerland England, France, Canada, and of
course all over the US. His current production
schedule provides him with little if no time for
anything else. We are honord to welcome Kevin to
Lexington KY for and intimate evening and a very
special 3 hour performance. 

TRAXX

_What can be said about Mel that hasn't been said
before? Amazing? Unique? He holds international fame
with residencies all over the world. We have seen this
DJ do things that no other DJ has ever done. If you
have seen him before you know what we are talking
about. Its been a while since he has visited the
midwest. You dont want to miss this DJ's set cause you
won't know when he will be back

TWILIGHT SLEEP

_America's only live drum and bass act! This group of
five technological pioneers will be working the
circuits and flipping the switches to deliver a
symphony of thump directly to your cerebral cortex.
Don't miss Twilights first Lexington performance so
you can say, "I saw them back when...."

MATT SYNTAX

Coming from chicago Matt has a unique style of deep
techno. His music provokes the mind and warms the
soul. He honestly has an individual style all of his
own. Matt will be making his first Lexington
appearance as well. Dont miss his early morning set!

TSAR

Originally from Russia Tsar now resides in Lexington.
He is one of the Midwest's most talented trance DJ's.
It is amazing to think this DJ has played all over the
country in such cities as LA, Denver, Detroit,
Pittsburgh, and Albequrque and has not yet played in
his home town. His Style ranges from progressive to
hard and dark trance.

DJ KELL

A veteran DJ with over 13 years of experience behind
the decks, he has been mixing records longer than most
of
you kids have been out of your diapers. Kell has
played all over the Midwest since moving from
Baltimore to Lexington in 1989! Stunning crowds with a
unique blend of French House, Disco, and Hard House,
he generates a relentless assault of funky beats
thatleaves dance floors breathless.

Robin Baker

Robin is one of the main forces behind Intellifeforms.
His first Lexington appearence was at one of NateFX's
Late Night parties. When Robin closed the night he had
everyone dancing until his last record. His opening
set tonight will start this party off right!!

$15 before 11:00 $20 after

for more info check the following:
web_www.intellifeforms.com
lan_859.296.7820
ema_deephousesouldier@yahoo.com



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AHH YES - 

I remember you.. in fact you are the reason I signed
up here!!

- Scotty


--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> i'll 2nd the motion that FLIRT is the place to be on
> a friday in madison.
> 
> howdy scott
> -tony (the guy in the drop bass shirt you met a week
> or 2 back that you had
> jsn111 follow in the bathroom 'cuz you thought i was
> sneaking in but i
> really just had to piss like a mofo).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scott bartelt 
> Subject: [mw] I'm NEW to this list!!!
> 
> 
> I've recently started up a weekly club in Madtown
> called FLIRT which goes off every Friday at the
> Imperial Palace chinese Resturaunt.  It's a 21+
> event
> and after our 12th show we've been the talk of the
> town, and we've only just begun, I assure you.
> 
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Subject: [mw] Re: (ele) FLIGHT ==> sat jan 20


Anyone from the list going to this tonight?

-MikeY

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, ele(announce)ment wrote:

> __________ _ ___ _ _ . .. _ ..
> 
> www.ele-mental.org :: 2000 :: columbus ohio             what_will_be/
> 
> __________ _ ___ _ _ . .. _ ..
> 
>  -- Start Itinerary --
>  -------------------------------------
> 
>  =======>
>  FLIGHT
> 
> 
>  Saturdays
>  @ Dfly Annex
>  245 King Ave
> 
>  -------------------------------------
> 
>  SPECIAL ARRIVALS for Sa Jan 20:
> 
>  => Coleman Burditt    => electronic beats
>  => Geoff White        => minimal techno
> 
> 
>  + Selected Members of Your Rotating Flight Crew:
> 
>  A. Yuratovac          => spinning 60s-70s Rock + Soul
>  Big Shot Fancy Pants  => spinning 60s-00s Hodge-Podge      
>  Lunaire + Ill Fitness => spinning 70s-80s ElectroWaveFunk
>  Spydey-X              => spinning 80s-00s Pimpin HipHop/Soul
>  Charles Noel          => spinning 80s-00s HipHop/TribalTech
>  Todd Sines            => spinning 90s-00s Kliks, Bleeps, Bass 
>  Thomas James          => spinning 90s-00s Tech-House
>  Amos                  => spinning 90s-00s KlinikalMuzik
> 
>  -------------------------------------
> 
>  Departs From: Columbus Ohio
>  Carrier: Dfly Annex
>  Gate: 245 King Ave
>  Flight: 2001   
>  Date: Sa 20 Jan
>  Time: 9PM-2AM
> 
>  -------------------------------------
> 
>  Providing passengers with 
>  a specially-prepared blend 
>  of 'jet set' music for 
>  listening and dancing.
> 
>  We will be cruising at an 
>  altitude of 780 feet.
> 
>  WELCOME ABOARD
> 
>  -------------------------------------
> 
>  Every Saturday
>  @ Dfly Annex
>  245 King Ave
>  Near King Ave + Neil Ave
>  18+ / $3.00 (unless otherwise noted)
> 
>  Info Line:
>  470 3ELE
> 
>  www.ele-mental.org
>  www.dragonflyneov.com
> 
>  -------------------------------------
>  -- End Itinerary --
> 
> 
> __________ _ ___ _ _ . .. _ ..
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Subject: [mw] poll


http://loophole.dhs.org/vote.shtml

be heard

rock tha vote

poll suggestions are welcome

i'm bored

-MikeY!


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Subject: Re: [mw] lick my anus/doug said that would work.....

Applesawz909@aol.com writes:

<< miss me?
 l0r4sauce
 ================================
 "That the birds of worry and care
 fly around your head-this you cannot change
 But that they build nests in your hair
 That you can prevent"
 --Chinese Proverb, author unknown
 ================================ >>

woo hoo!!...lora is back!!

lora makes pixie look like the tooth fairy!!

hehe =)

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>This January (as with all Januaries ) we will be kicking the New Year off
>with the newest installment of Happy 2b Hardcore Chapter 5. Anabolic Frolic
>is once again at the helm. Heâ€™s picked the happiest of all hardcore tracks
>and cut, mixed and beat matched them like only he can.

*snicker*

please refer to any of fuh-fuh-frolic's live sets or his show on 
1groove.com for examples of his cuts, mixes, and beat matches.  they are 
cacophonous at best.

http://www.vinylunderground.com/no-frolic.jpg

mk

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jes@pubnix.org writes:

<< i was surprised to see steviet back on this list, but imagine my shock
 that he's by no means the biggest disturbance as of late. in fact, i'm
 impressed that people have managed to not get sucked into replying to him,
 thus creating tedious neverending threads. now can we please learn to 
 apply that ability elsewhere, to other threads? >>

hyeah, reply to the much more intelligent threads
like "only on mw-raves" and the "lick my anus" threads 
which are far more important!!...i can't believe i'm
the only one left (oh well, the first and the last...as
prophesized) that actually posts about upcoming 
events on here.

no wonder, people on here actually believe the poop
that twits like jes dish out!!....can you say professional
crack babies!!

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From mw-raves-return-14802-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 02:22:28 2001
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Subject: [mw] save hump! wuz Re: [mw] save hamp

no, save hump!

http://www.raverporn.net/

who's your daddy?!

;)

porn again!

without love there can be no creation!

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From mw-raves-return-14803-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 02:24:20 2001
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Just wanted to introduce myself as a new member of this thing (and also
testing to see if it works.) :)  This is Yvette, from the Champaign-Urbana
area, always looking for a party to go to. I know it's early in the year,
but I figure there's always SOMEBODY who knows SOME INFO about a rave
somewhere. Anyway, just saying hi. :)

Yvette

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
               To dream of the person you would like to be 
		 is to waste the person you already are.
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From mw-raves-return-14804-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 03:07:25 2001
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I though raveing was dead.  Also hehe are there any partys in chi tonight

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From mw-raves-return-14805-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 04:03:39 2001
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shawne....

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From mw-raves-return-14806-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 05:00:05 2001
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>This January (as with all Januaries ) we will be kicking the New Year off
>with the newest installment of Happy 2b Hardcore Chapter 5. Anabolic Frolic
>is once again at the helm. Heâ€™s picked the happiest of all hardcore tracks
>and cut, mixed and beat matched them like only he can.

*snicker*

please refer to any of fuh-fuh-frolic's live sets or his show on 
1groove.com for examples of his cuts, mixes, and beat matches.  they are 
cacophonous at best.

http://www.vinylunderground.com/no-frolic.jpg

mk

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From mw-raves-return-14807-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 05:32:35 2001
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i for one am happy that jes is also a professional.  it was getting so
lonely.

    -bill
    -professional idiot

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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> jes@pubnix.org writes:
>
> << i was surprised to see steviet back on this list, but imagine my shock
>  that he's by no means the biggest disturbance as of late. in fact, i'm
>  impressed that people have managed to not get sucked into replying to
him,
>  thus creating tedious neverending threads. now can we please learn to
>  apply that ability elsewhere, to other threads? >>
>
> hyeah, reply to the much more intelligent threads
> like "only on mw-raves" and the "lick my anus" threads
> which are far more important!!...i can't believe i'm
> the only one left (oh well, the first and the last...as
> prophesized) that actually posts about upcoming
> events on here.
>
> no wonder, people on here actually believe the poop
> that twits like jes dish out!!....can you say professional
> crack babies!!
>
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Nice Krty!

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> 
> hate mail, i love it.
> 
> does he have any shots of himshelf with glowsticks?
> better still, does he have a copy of the "raving rulebook"?
> 
> 
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And if shawne ever finds out who signed him up for that subscription he's
going to cut their nuts/clit off.

shawne
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> shawne....
>
> has a subscription
>
>
> to
>
>
> TEEN MAG!!!!!!!!
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>And if shawne ever finds out who signed him up for that subscription he's
>going to cut their nuts/clit off.

what's the big deal?  i had a subscription to TEEN PEOPLE up until a month 
or two ago.  *shrug*

mk

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From mw-raves-return-14811-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 09:40:09 2001
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i want one.

-t

ps - for some strange reason, my PO box gets soap opera weekly.  if someone
wants me to save it for them, i will.  a warning, i will also make fun of
you.

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shawne....

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In a message dated 1/19/01 3:33:24 PM Central Standard Time, TekkgirIie 
writes:

> I hope britney ods on E at the rave they are all gonna go to..
>  dumb bitch.

well, i realized why parties have seemed so strange and foriegn to me lately, 
and for this one, ill quote leah from louisville: *these are the kinds of 
parties that turn little kids into ravers*

or maybe im just old. 

--l0r4sauce
================================
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fly around your head-this you cannot change
But that they build nests in your hair
That you can prevent"
--Chinese Proverb, author unknown
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In a message dated 1/19/01 3:35:26 PM Central Standard Time, tony@sebion.com 
writes:

> its that art imitates life thing, except its more like non-art imitates
>  nightlife.  or something.  please kill me.
>  

well, actually, doug and i have noticed that the older** one becomes, the 
less sensitive one tends to be when people pick on our "scenes".  im guessing 
its because those kinds of things become less important with age** and were 
not so angsty and we have passed the lets-piss-our-parents -off phase.   i 
love rave reports on dateline and such, unfortunately they are frighteningly 
accurate. i have noticed that more and more stupid kids are ending up in 
paddywagons after being busted doing whatever.  i like this too.  get em out. 
as a matter of fact, all this talk of raves being outlawed by our new, more 
conservative government doesnt bother me a bit. call me old**, but i think it 
is well deserved.  and just so long as they dont outlaw 909's and such i have 
no issue at all.
ok, for my rant. gawd
--l0r4sauce
**old: bitter, crochety, etc...

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In a message dated 1/19/01 7:51:02 PM Central Standard Time, 
thedjcook@yahoo.com writes:

> From the slurry of emails that I glanced over it seems
>  like I've found a group of semi to heavy sarcastic
>  individuals who aren't afraid to speak their minds.
>  

ok, you dont know the half of it.  you MUST be crochety to make it on this 
list. one bit of advice: dont date people you meet thru this list. (any of 
you who know why i said this can keep your comments to your self and fukk off 
;P)
and, btw, if you know my madison kiddies (clerkin, alan, rick, lucy and such, 
tell em i said hi)
--L0r4sauce

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Subject: Re: [mw] pixie aint no fairy/lick my anus/doug said that would work.....

In a message dated 1/20/01 7:55:09 PM Central Standard Time, 
Son316east@aol.com writes:

> woo hoo!!...lora is back!!
>  
>  lora makes pixie look like the tooth fairy!!
>  
>  hehe =)
 
i taught miss pixie pants everything she knows about being a royal bitch.  so 
i MUST step in here and let you know that if you compare her to the tooth 
fairy or any other pansy ass mythical figure ill hand your nuts to you in a 
jar.  
tru dat.
--sauce

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im guessing the same person who signed you up for that subscription to alloy 
catalogue you got friday ???

-THE bitch iySyS-

>And if shawne ever finds out who signed him up for that subscription he's
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but regardless of what anyone may have taught anyone....this shit comes to 
me naturally !!!!!

-THE bitch iySyS-

>
>i taught miss pixie pants everything she knows about being a royal bitch.
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    FACP  presents   EAT SWISS  January 27th Columbus, Oh.

                    With Special Guests, from Just Plain Positive
                     from Philadelphia, PA.
                      DJs:      
                    Hen Loc
                      Gehad
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                        Bringing you the styles of : trace tech, house 
breaks, 
                        and rough drum and bass!

            Local DJs include: 
                                Jam Deuce
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                                Shaggy Slim 
                                Jesse James
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                              $5 AT THE DOOR
            INFO: (614) 470-DOWN 
                                  (3696)
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Subject: [mw] thanx for nuttin : )

hey pplz,
 guess what? i finally found a freakin rave to go to.
not in wis. but in az. theres one on my b-day (jan.
27th by the way. i'll be turning 15) but im not gonna
be in az on my b-day. but theres another one during
spring break that im'ma go to. so i guess my search is
over for now. but still if ya'll can tell me if theres
a rave goin' on I'd appreciate it. thanx. cuz I really
wanna see the rave scene in wis. and see the
difference to az. from wis.
-candice

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Aren't u alittle young to be going?

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From mw-raves-return-14821-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 18:56:42 2001
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Subject: [mw] Re: [happyusa] why protesting is cool  ;)

hahaha whoa holy shit!  he looks like he's flying!  that's one of the 
coolest photos i've seen in awhile.  this ones going on a certain rate the 
rave photo website, believe!!

mk

>http://dc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=5251&group=webcast
>
>sorry if this is "political"..it's just a wikked picture :)


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I'm in the beginning stages of planning
an event.  I have a few questions to ask
everyone...

1) Anyone know anything taking place in
the northern Illinois, southern Wisconsin area
on March 17th or March 24th ?

2) If you live in Chicago, who is a CHICAGO dj or act
that you would be willing to drive to Madison to see ?

3) If you live in Madison, who is a MADISON dj or
act that you would be willing to drive to Chicago to see ?

4) Other DJs or acts who you'd like to see ?

This will be a mid-scale event, max 1000 people and
a max $15 ticket price...so keep your suggestions reasonable.

Thanks !

	- Joe


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> i for one am happy that jes is also a professional.  it was getting so
> lonely.

d00d, we should, like, unionize and shit!

/j








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In a message dated 1/21/01 2:49:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< 1) Anyone know anything taking place in
 the northern Illinois, southern Wisconsin area
 on March 17th or March 24th ?
 
check www.syquil.com


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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:55:34 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>i can't remember the event, but there were flyers at DBNYE for a party w/
>mark eg on march 17th.  "lucky charms" or something like that.  that might
>have been central wi though, i dunno.

Yeah.  That's in Appleton.  I almost forgot.  I think I
might even be doing lights for that (not officially booked though
- if you guys are listening - and still need lighting, call me !)

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Subject: [mw] comments on rockford.


let me preface this review by saying that rockford has an extraordinarily
ugly rave-going population, and most of them were pretty fuckin rude. i
would also like to add that events advertised as being in chicago should
not be in rockford.

ok. we didn't get there till two, right as surgeon went on. i thoroughly
enjoyed his set, which contained way more variation than i expected. i
danced through almost the whole thing, except for the dozens of times
people would literally push, pull, kick, bump, or otherwise move me out of
a particular space so they could dance in it. we were there an hour and a
half and i lost track of how many times this happened after about twenty
or so. no respect for personal space, just rudeness. maybe it's cause the
crowd was on average 16 or 17 i'd say, and i just haven't been raving much
the last year or two anymore. but man, i seriously had to restrain myself
from kicking some retarded raver ass many times.

anyways, tony's set was pretty fuckin tight. it ranged all over the place,
he played breaks he played hard he played esoterically, and kept me
dnacing, as well as most of the crowd around me.

when someone pulled the fire alarm ten minutes before he would have ended
anyways the lights came on, they told us to leave, and arno took off his
shirt and wrang out at least a half cup of sweat. yeah, i had a good time.

ok that's about all i have to say. let me reiterate that that was the
ugliest crowd i've seen in a while, no manners whatsoever. also, the place
was packed, way more people in attendance than i think would have come if
it were in chicago. that's pretty weird. *rockford* 

oy. i'm f00kin h00ngry, we are going to eat at toast soon, best marscipone
french toast in the world, at least that i've had. :)

/j

ps i just realize i didn't mention what party we were at. i don't know
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no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people that
are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit dat!
right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to raves
with me that are 14-15.
-candice
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> no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people that
> are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit dat!
> right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to raves
> with me that are 14-15.

wow, i really hope you're there getting high on the music. the idea of
kids that young doing drugs really disturbs me. not like substances don't
fuck you up enough regardless of age, but when you're still not even done
going through puberty, that would seem to cause even more damage. i'm not
saying DON'T DO DRUGS, i'm saying i'm glad i waited till i was older to
start experimenting with how substances affected my mind and body, when i
could go into it a bit more responsibly. 

daggit, i'm not trying to start a stupid thread about children doing
drugs, but i just get really disturbed when i go to parties and see kids
too young to even have a drivers liscense in a corner twiching. i know
poeple who were those kids, and they're older now, and you can just tell
sometimes. whatever. 

please, be careful.

/j






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>let me preface this review by saying that rockford has an extraordinarily
>ugly rave-going population, and most of them were pretty fuckin rude. i
>would also like to add that events advertised as being in chicago should
>not be in rockford.

remember when rockford was the equivalent of harvey?  in late 95 or so.  i 
still remember gill posting about a party that was actually held in 
chicago, and writing "this event was held in chicago, il - chicago is a 
suburb of rockford, il, where raves usually occur."

>ps i just realize i didn't mention what party we were at. i don't know
>what it was called, but boogie tribe put it together.

i'm pretty sure it was called "urban takeover" - that's the party everyone 
was talking about on chicagoravers.com this week.  i guess i didn't realize 
surgeon was playing, all they talked about was dieselbutt.

mk

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>no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people that
>are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit dat!
>right?

actually, the number of things wrong with that is staggering.

mk

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drugs are bad, m'kay

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> remember when rockford was the equivalent of harvey?  in late 95 or so.  i 
> still remember gill posting about a party that was actually held in 
> chicago, and writing "this event was held in chicago, il - chicago is a 
> suburb of rockford, il, where raves usually occur."

yeah, it's definitely not the first time i've seen it happen. i remember
when it was more commonplace, kinda around ladyBUNK2, also seen 
kankakee count as chi. once i went to a party in sheboygen that was
advertised an milwaukee.

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dont worry pplz. im'ma 98% drug free raver <---dont
ask
basically i go for the dancin and muzik-n-stuff. but
we all know all ya'll experimented. no matter how old
you are. the effects are basically the same.
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i guess what promoters don't realize is that there is a whole group of
people that live a hell of a lot closer to rockford than chicago and that
might consider going to events that are an hour closer based on that fact
alone.

does anyone on this list hail from rockford?  

this sort of thing happens on a larger scale though - i was at the last
tibetan freedom concert at alpine valley in chicago according to the
souvenier program they were handing out.

-t

ps - it is sunday afternoon and we are posting on mailing lists, we are
truly sad.

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"this event was held in chicago, il - chicago is a 
suburb of rockford, il, where raves usually occur."

>ps i just realize i didn't mention what party we were at. i don't know
>what it was called, but boogie tribe put it together.


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>yeah, it's definitely not the first time i've seen it happen. i remember
>when it was more commonplace, kinda around ladyBUNK2

hahaha i swear to god i had more fun dancing in the parking lot for 45 
minutes outside that shit than i'd have had if we'd actually made it in.  ;P

>  once i went to a party in sheboygen that was
>advertised an milwaukee.

"it was very big in sheboygan." - john candy

mk

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>no matter how old you are. the effects are basically the same.

err.  please consult a qualified source regarding the above 
statement.  even "recreational" use of a lot of "rave drugs" will fuck up 
an adult pretty gnarly-like on a long-term basis.  the fact that you have 
not finished developing just ups the risks.

i'm moving 6,000 miles from civilization to raise my children.  this is fucked.

mk, who didn't even get to go to his first metallica concert til he was 15 !

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Subject: Re: [mw] children twiching in a corner

I played this party in Tucson AZ last year, it was on a reservation or
something, it was a total production disaster...

Anyways, as I was sitting there wondering what to do next, I saw a pack of
*little* kids, maybe 13-14.  What they were doing was insane.  They had
someone's pick up truck on, revving the engine, as to get it real hot.  Then
they were placing a plate with K on it, on top of the valve covers to try to
cook it down....

13-14, and a little girl without any breasts (who the boys were of course
taking advantage of)

yep, that AZ....

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>
> > no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people that
> > are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit dat!
> > right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to raves
> > with me that are 14-15.
>
> wow, i really hope you're there getting high on the music. the idea of
> kids that young doing drugs really disturbs me. not like substances don't
> fuck you up enough regardless of age, but when you're still not even done
> going through puberty, that would seem to cause even more damage. i'm not
> saying DON'T DO DRUGS, i'm saying i'm glad i waited till i was older to
> start experimenting with how substances affected my mind and body, when i
> could go into it a bit more responsibly.
>
> daggit, i'm not trying to start a stupid thread about children doing
> drugs, but i just get really disturbed when i go to parties and see kids
> too young to even have a drivers liscense in a corner twiching. i know
> poeple who were those kids, and they're older now, and you can just tell
> sometimes. whatever.
>
> please, be careful.
>
> /j
>
>
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Subject: [mw] how to annoy ravers (nicked from the hullaboard)

  posted January 20, 2001 02:17 PM
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How to annoy kids at partys

1) Go around and ask someone for a cigarette. When they give it to you,
put it in your pocket, say thanks, and walk away. Continue to to this
until you have collected about 100 cigarettes and then start to sell them.

2) Walk into circles and just stand there.

3) Pretend you are learning how to do glowsticks. Keep "losing
control" of one of them by throwing it at someone. Continue to do this
until that person moves. Then follow them and continue to "learn".

4) Walk up to someone with water and make the motion of wanting a
drink. When they give you the water, walk away with it.

5) Go up and try to eat someones "candy"

6) Suck on someone elses pacifier while they are wearing it.

7) When someone walks by you and says e, say f and follow them around
until they say g, then say h, etc. Act all excited because you have a new
friend.

8) Lie down on the dance floor.

9) Throw things at the DJ to see if you can make the record skip.

10) When you leave and people ask you if you want flyers say yes then take
the whole stack and throw it in the air and yell "its raining, its
raining."

11) When someone comes up to you to ask if you are rolling, scream loudly
and run away shouting "the devil! the devil!"

12) Look at someones candy bracelets and find one you like then walk up to
them and say "ooooo.... prettty" and then take it and walk away. If they
ask you what you are doing just growl and salivate.

13) Growl and salivate anyways and tell people you took whatever the most
popular pill at the party is.

14) Roll around on the floor until someone says "are you rolling?" then
smile and stand up.

15) Bring your mom.

16) Bring someones elses mom.

17) When giving someone a light show, keep hitting them in the head.

18) Undress people who are passed out then sell them back their clothes at
"bargin price."

19) Walk up to someone who is dancing and "boo" them, give them thumbs
down, and make vomiting sounds.

20) Lick people.


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Subject: [mw] Info on St.Louis Parties

Hey, I am going to be going through St. Louis on the 3rd of March and was 
curious if there were any parties going on.  A friend and I are heading 
through St. Louis on our way down to New Orleans for Mardi Gras.  We want to 
hit up a party in St. Louis there.  Also, Since I am not from that area, I 
would need assistance in getting to the party(maybe a ride or directions in 
advance).  I would be willing to chip in for gas or whatever that night.

Or if you could send links or emails in which I can get information about 
parties there, that would be very helpful.

peace

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> yeah, it's definitely not the first time i've seen it happen. i remember
> when it was more commonplace, kinda around ladyBUNK2, also seen 
> kankakee count as chi. once i went to a party in sheboygen that was
> advertised an milwaukee.

once??

i went to probably 10 parties in sheboygan or some other crappy town in
the middle of nowhere... for a good 2 or 3 years, "milwaukeee area" meant
nowhere near milwaukee!

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no, when you get older you use more common sense.   or at least some of us
do.  whenyou are young and do drugs you are more likly to be taken advantage
of because you are less likly to understand what is happening to your body
and mind.

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i say let them do all the drugs they want. it doesn't matter at what age 
irresponsible drug-users inflict their own deaths, except that the sooner, 
the better.

this has been your bi-annual newsletter from the national coalition against 
etards.

-j

PS: before you flame me for being an asshole, please note that i am not for 
random people dying, just people who are clueless enough to self-induce 
death by stupidity (i.e. people who will eat any pills sold to them).


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ok but see,  not all az ppl be like dat. u just be
stereo-typing and that aint right yo. yea maybe some
of us do dat stuff. but not just in az. how do you
know ppl from where u from dont do dat? huh?!?!?
~candice~
--- darw_n <darwin@veriomail.com> wrote:
> I played this party in Tucson AZ last year, it was
> on a reservation or
> something, it was a total production disaster...
> 
> Anyways, as I was sitting there wondering what to do
> next, I saw a pack of
> *little* kids, maybe 13-14.  What they were doing
> was insane.  They had
> someone's pick up truck on, revving the engine, as
> to get it real hot.  Then
> they were placing a plate with K on it, on top of
> the valve covers to try to
> cook it down....
> 
> 13-14, and a little girl without any breasts (who
> the boys were of course
> taking advantage of)
> 
> yep, that AZ....
> 
> darw_n
> 
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> 
> search for "djdarwin" on napster
> www.sphereproductions.com
> www.mannequinodd.com
> www.mp3.com/darw_n
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jes" <jes@pubnix.org>
> To: "midwest bullshit" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:25 PM
> Subject: [mw] children twiching in a corner
> 
> 
> >
> > > no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people
> that
> > > are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit
> dat!
> > > right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to
> raves
> > > with me that are 14-15.
> >
> > wow, i really hope you're there getting high on
> the music. the idea of
> > kids that young doing drugs really disturbs me.
> not like substances don't
> > fuck you up enough regardless of age, but when
> you're still not even done
> > going through puberty, that would seem to cause
> even more damage. i'm not
> > saying DON'T DO DRUGS, i'm saying i'm glad i
> waited till i was older to
> > start experimenting with how substances affected
> my mind and body, when i
> > could go into it a bit more responsibly.
> >
> > daggit, i'm not trying to start a stupid thread
> about children doing
> > drugs, but i just get really disturbed when i go
> to parties and see kids
> > too young to even have a drivers liscense in a
> corner twiching. i know
> > poeple who were those kids, and they're older now,
> and you can just tell
> > sometimes. whatever.
> >
> > please, be careful.
> >
> > /j
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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At 05:54 PM 2001-01-21, Candice Rustong wrote:
>u just be stereo-typing and that aint right yo.

Please alert me to comparable sources of entertainment such as above, if known.

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>>u just be stereo-typing and that aint right yo.
>
>Please alert me to comparable sources of entertainment such as above, if 
>known.

www.chicagoravers.com

www.bluelight.nu

www.hullabaloo-raves.com

mk

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From mw-raves-return-14846-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 21 21:43:22 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] how to annoy ravers (nicked from the hullaboard)

Nicked from the hullaboard and stolen from the gabbers list :p

Other suggestions from the gabbers list reposted with absolutely no-ones
permission:


>I bet if I throw a raver at the DJ I can make his record skip :)

> 
>  > 4) Walk up to someone with water and make the motion of wanting a
>  > drink.  When they give you the water, walk away with it.
>  >
>  >
>  
>  It's funnier if you spit in it very obviously  and give it back.

>covertly swap it with the bottle of urine you prepared earlier... and
>left chilling in a fridge all day.
>
>also fun is to convince young candy kids that it's a 'great game' to
>have them follow you around and scream "FUCK YOU!" at everyone you try
>to talk to...  later on you can get back at this young candy kid by
>writing 'hairy' across her ass when she's trying to get everybody to
>autograph her body at the Insanity party that Jaymez will be throwing in
>August of this year.
>
>other entertaining games...
>
>peeing on the e-piles.
>
>warning people about the 'bad, really, really BAD' drugs going around. 
>when they ask you what the bad ones are... ask them what they took...
>and then try to look shocked and say "oh god... are you ok??"
>
>starting wrestling tournaments


fergus





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Subject: Re: [mw] children twiching in a corner

dude, STOP talking like that!!!

When you introduced your self last week, you were fine. Now your typing
"dat", which sounds horribly like a young white suburban youth living in
some remote midwest region acting hard and schooled in street ethics, which
your not....

And you wont date any nice guys talking like that either, you'll get all the
inbreds who where Miami Dolphins jackets from '89...

BTW, where's those pics??

;)

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To: "darw_n" <darwin@veriomail.com>; "rave" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
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> ok but see,  not all az ppl be like dat. u just be
> stereo-typing and that aint right yo. yea maybe some
> of us do dat stuff. but not just in az. how do you
> know ppl from where u from dont do dat? huh?!?!?
> ~candice~
> --- darw_n <darwin@veriomail.com> wrote:
> > I played this party in Tucson AZ last year, it was
> > on a reservation or
> > something, it was a total production disaster...
> >
> > Anyways, as I was sitting there wondering what to do
> > next, I saw a pack of
> > *little* kids, maybe 13-14.  What they were doing
> > was insane.  They had
> > someone's pick up truck on, revving the engine, as
> > to get it real hot.  Then
> > they were placing a plate with K on it, on top of
> > the valve covers to try to
> > cook it down....
> >
> > 13-14, and a little girl without any breasts (who
> > the boys were of course
> > taking advantage of)
> >
> > yep, that AZ....
> >
> > darw_n
> >
> > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> >
> > search for "djdarwin" on napster
> > www.sphereproductions.com
> > www.mannequinodd.com
> > www.mp3.com/darw_n
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jes" <jes@pubnix.org>
> > To: "midwest bullshit" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:25 PM
> > Subject: [mw] children twiching in a corner
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people
> > that
> > > > are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit
> > dat!
> > > > right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to
> > raves
> > > > with me that are 14-15.
> > >
> > > wow, i really hope you're there getting high on
> > the music. the idea of
> > > kids that young doing drugs really disturbs me.
> > not like substances don't
> > > fuck you up enough regardless of age, but when
> > you're still not even done
> > > going through puberty, that would seem to cause
> > even more damage. i'm not
> > > saying DON'T DO DRUGS, i'm saying i'm glad i
> > waited till i was older to
> > > start experimenting with how substances affected
> > my mind and body, when i
> > > could go into it a bit more responsibly.
> > >
> > > daggit, i'm not trying to start a stupid thread
> > about children doing
> > > drugs, but i just get really disturbed when i go
> > to parties and see kids
> > > too young to even have a drivers liscense in a
> > corner twiching. i know
> > > poeple who were those kids, and they're older now,
> > and you can just tell
> > > sometimes. whatever.
> > >
> > > please, be careful.
> > >
> > > /j
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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OH, and I have been "raving" or whatever since 91, sooo, I think I have some
authority as to what happens in my area, and yours for that matter...

darw_n

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> ok but see,  not all az ppl be like dat. u just be
> stereo-typing and that aint right yo. yea maybe some
> of us do dat stuff. but not just in az. how do you
> know ppl from where u from dont do dat? huh?!?!?
> ~candice~
> --- darw_n <darwin@veriomail.com> wrote:
> > I played this party in Tucson AZ last year, it was
> > on a reservation or
> > something, it was a total production disaster...
> >
> > Anyways, as I was sitting there wondering what to do
> > next, I saw a pack of
> > *little* kids, maybe 13-14.  What they were doing
> > was insane.  They had
> > someone's pick up truck on, revving the engine, as
> > to get it real hot.  Then
> > they were placing a plate with K on it, on top of
> > the valve covers to try to
> > cook it down....
> >
> > 13-14, and a little girl without any breasts (who
> > the boys were of course
> > taking advantage of)
> >
> > yep, that AZ....
> >
> > darw_n
> >
> > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> >
> > search for "djdarwin" on napster
> > www.sphereproductions.com
> > www.mannequinodd.com
> > www.mp3.com/darw_n
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jes" <jes@pubnix.org>
> > To: "midwest bullshit" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:25 PM
> > Subject: [mw] children twiching in a corner
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people
> > that
> > > > are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit
> > dat!
> > > > right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to
> > raves
> > > > with me that are 14-15.
> > >
> > > wow, i really hope you're there getting high on
> > the music. the idea of
> > > kids that young doing drugs really disturbs me.
> > not like substances don't
> > > fuck you up enough regardless of age, but when
> > you're still not even done
> > > going through puberty, that would seem to cause
> > even more damage. i'm not
> > > saying DON'T DO DRUGS, i'm saying i'm glad i
> > waited till i was older to
> > > start experimenting with how substances affected
> > my mind and body, when i
> > > could go into it a bit more responsibly.
> > >
> > > daggit, i'm not trying to start a stupid thread
> > about children doing
> > > drugs, but i just get really disturbed when i go
> > to parties and see kids
> > > too young to even have a drivers liscense in a
> > corner twiching. i know
> > > poeple who were those kids, and they're older now,
> > and you can just tell
> > > sometimes. whatever.
> > >
> > > please, be careful.
> > >
> > > /j
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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>OH, and I have been "raving" or whatever since 91, sooo, I think I have some
>authority as to what happens in my area, and yours for that matter...

personally, i think it's a little early in the match to play the old-school 
card.  i would have waited until she calimed to be old-school because she's 
been raving for over a year, which would have positioned you for a kill.

maybe she's a cop!  ;P

mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] children twiching in a corner

and in response to myself, there is *NOTHING* I hate more than when someone
says "dude, I've been raving since [enter some obscure early 90's date]"

So on that note, I flame myself...

;)

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> OH, and I have been "raving" or whatever since 91, sooo, I think I have
some
> authority as to what happens in my area, and yours for that matter...
>
> darw_n
>
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
>
> search for "djdarwin" on napster
> www.sphereproductions.com
> www.mannequinodd.com
> www.mp3.com/darw_n
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Candice Rustong" <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
> To: "darw_n" <darwin@veriomail.com>; "rave" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 2:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [mw] children twiching in a corner
>
>
> > ok but see,  not all az ppl be like dat. u just be
> > stereo-typing and that aint right yo. yea maybe some
> > of us do dat stuff. but not just in az. how do you
> > know ppl from where u from dont do dat? huh?!?!?
> > ~candice~
> > --- darw_n <darwin@veriomail.com> wrote:
> > > I played this party in Tucson AZ last year, it was
> > > on a reservation or
> > > something, it was a total production disaster...
> > >
> > > Anyways, as I was sitting there wondering what to do
> > > next, I saw a pack of
> > > *little* kids, maybe 13-14.  What they were doing
> > > was insane.  They had
> > > someone's pick up truck on, revving the engine, as
> > > to get it real hot.  Then
> > > they were placing a plate with K on it, on top of
> > > the valve covers to try to
> > > cook it down....
> > >
> > > 13-14, and a little girl without any breasts (who
> > > the boys were of course
> > > taking advantage of)
> > >
> > > yep, that AZ....
> > >
> > > darw_n
> > >
> > > "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> > >
> > > search for "djdarwin" on napster
> > > www.sphereproductions.com
> > > www.mannequinodd.com
> > > www.mp3.com/darw_n
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jes" <jes@pubnix.org>
> > > To: "midwest bullshit" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:25 PM
> > > Subject: [mw] children twiching in a corner
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people
> > > that
> > > > > are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit
> > > dat!
> > > > > right? and i gotz lotz of friends that go to
> > > raves
> > > > > with me that are 14-15.
> > > >
> > > > wow, i really hope you're there getting high on
> > > the music. the idea of
> > > > kids that young doing drugs really disturbs me.
> > > not like substances don't
> > > > fuck you up enough regardless of age, but when
> > > you're still not even done
> > > > going through puberty, that would seem to cause
> > > even more damage. i'm not
> > > > saying DON'T DO DRUGS, i'm saying i'm glad i
> > > waited till i was older to
> > > > start experimenting with how substances affected
> > > my mind and body, when i
> > > > could go into it a bit more responsibly.
> > > >
> > > > daggit, i'm not trying to start a stupid thread
> > > about children doing
> > > > drugs, but i just get really disturbed when i go
> > > to parties and see kids
> > > > too young to even have a drivers liscense in a
> > > corner twiching. i know
> > > > poeple who were those kids, and they're older now,
> > > and you can just tell
> > > > sometimes. whatever.
> > > >
> > > > please, be careful.
> > > >
> > > > /j
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: [mw] comments on rockford.

I'd have to agree about all the rude people at Urban Takeover,  but this
incident in particular really confused me as to how someone could be so
mean.  So my 2 friends that I went with were standing over by the small
room where they had concessions.  I go to talk to them about if we
should leave (this is when the whole fire-drill thing happened) and
unknowingly i stand right in front of this guy.  I wasn't touching him
or anything, but he yells at me, "Get your elbow out of my face!"  Now
i'm about 5'7, and this guy had to be at least 6'2.  Also I'm a fairly
non-threatening white girl.  But the way he said it was so nasty that I
thought he was joking, so I just stared at him with this look of
confusion.  Anyway he was seriously pissed. Those of you who were there,
I'm assuming you got bumped into quite a lot. This was not a party for
people who couldn't handle others in their personal space. so whatever,
some people need to grow up.

jes wrote:
> 
> let me preface this review by saying that rockford has an extraordinarily
> ugly rave-going population, and most of them were pretty fuckin rude. i
> would also like to add that events advertised as being in chicago should
> not be in rockford.
> 
> ok. we didn't get there till two, right as surgeon went on. i thoroughly
> enjoyed his set, which contained way more variation than i expected. i
> danced through almost the whole thing, except for the dozens of times
> people would literally push, pull, kick, bump, or otherwise move me out of
> a particular space so they could dance in it. we were there an hour and a
> half and i lost track of how many times this happened after about twenty
> or so. no respect for personal space, just rudeness. maybe it's cause the
> crowd was on average 16 or 17 i'd say, and i just haven't been raving much
> the last year or two anymore. but man, i seriously had to restrain myself
> from kicking some retarded raver ass many times.
> 
> anyways, tony's set was pretty fuckin tight. it ranged all over the place,
> he played breaks he played hard he played esoterically, and kept me
> dnacing, as well as most of the crowd around me.
> 
> when someone pulled the fire alarm ten minutes before he would have ended
> anyways the lights came on, they told us to leave, and arno took off his
> shirt and wrang out at least a half cup of sweat. yeah, i had a good time.
> 
> ok that's about all i have to say. let me reiterate that that was the
> ugliest crowd i've seen in a while, no manners whatsoever. also, the place
> was packed, way more people in attendance than i think would have come if
> it were in chicago. that's pretty weird. *rockford*
> 
> oy. i'm f00kin h00ngry, we are going to eat at toast soon, best marscipone
> french toast in the world, at least that i've had. :)
> 
> /j
> 
> ps i just realize i didn't mention what party we were at. i don't know
> what it was called, but boogie tribe put it together.
> 
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>i'm moving 6,000 miles from civilization to raise my children.  this is
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Michael raising children scary ;P


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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:56:45 -0600, michael knight wrote:


>maybe she's a cop!  ;P
>

I think she's a troll.

Didn't her first post have an AOL address ?

Stevie T maybe ?

Either way, if she's real, she's not gonna take
any advice by us being condescending.  She's
gonna have to learn the hard way or wake up
on her own.  If her parents are letting her Rave 
at 14/15, the problem lies deeper anyway. 

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--- Dynamic Groove <events@dynamicgroove.com> wrote:
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> >maybe she's a cop!  ;P
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> I think she's a troll.
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> Didn't her first post have an AOL address ?
 
 ~~*~~* no i dont even have an aol address!!!!!!
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> Either way, if she's real    YES IM REAL 
  she's not gonna take
> any advice by us being condescending.  She's
> gonna have to learn the hard way or wake up
> on her own.  If her parents are letting her Rave 
> at 14/15, the problem lies deeper anyway. 

  that right there ^ is just wrong!
> 
> 	- Joe
> 
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On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:34:21 -0800 (PST), Candice Rustong wrote:

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>> Didn't her first post have an AOL address ?
> 
> ~~*~~* no i dont even have an aol address!!!!!!

I just remember looking at the address field of my 
mail program and seeing AOL.  I thought that was 
suspicious, seeing as your post was flame bait 
(at least on this sarcastic list it was).

I could easily be wrong.  Maybe I saw the
address above or below it.


>YES IM REAL 

I'm happy for you. =)


>  she's not gonna take
>> any advice by us being condescending.  She's
>> gonna have to learn the hard way or wake up
>> on her own.  If her parents are letting her Rave 
>> at 14/15, the problem lies deeper anyway. 
>
>  that right there ^ is just wrong!
>> 


I disagree.  16 ? Maybe. 
@ 18, you are responsible for yourself
that's ok.  But at 14/15 ?  No way.

Raves are an adult environment.
I don't mean "porno adult", but they
are not suitable for youngsters.

If your parents are letting you rave @ 14,
then they seriously need to re-evaluate
the situation (at least until raves are
"cleaned up")

Don't bother arguing with me about it.
You have your opinion, I have mine.

Over and out.

	 - Joe 


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I throw parties and here in the North east
we have age limits of 17 to keep little kids like you and your friends from 
tweaking out in the main room and taken up our dance space.

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ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2001
IN LEXINGTON, KY
ENTICE WILL TAKE YOU...


HIGHER!



Line-Up:

.. DJ Spree (minneapolis, mn)  vs.  Valerie Sparks (san francisco, ca) ..
.. Cloudskipper (san francisco, ca)  vs.  Muppetfucker (austin, tx) .. 2X4
.. Matt Positive (chicago, il) ..
.. DJ Entropy (boston, ma) ..
.. Tilzs (minneapolis, mn) ..
.. DJ Resistor (washington, dc) ..
.. DJ Eor (south bend, in) ..


General Information:


.. 9000 sq. feet of clean, virgin, secure space with plenty of parking and bathrooms!
.. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals from our friends at Project 7!
.. Free toys and giveaways to ticket holders!
.. R.O.A.R. in full effect! No alcohol, drugs, firearms, open containers, markers, backpacks or drama. You will be searched at the door by our firm and friendly security staff. Please respect the venue and each other. Please dress warmly. Coat check will be provided.


Ticket Information:

Pre-sales tickets are now on sale until January 31. Pre-sale ticket holders will have entry priority and receive a free toy at the door. Those of you travelling 300 miles or more (approx. 5 hours driving time) will get in at pre-sale cost (proof of travel is required). We do, however, everyone to purchase pre-sale tickets as this event will sell out quickly! Only 800 tickets will be sold!
.. Pre-sale tickets: $12.00
.. At the door: $15.00 w/ a new coloring book; $17.00 w/out
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... that you guys are getting so worked up over a fictional 14 year old.

she's about as real as totally_terry_mullan, guys.


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dont worry,i've contacted the real candice rustong and her agent is planning
to sue this imposter because this cop is using her name and ruining her
reputation as a 14 year old candy kid that is 98% drug free.

-t

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Subject: [mw] i can't believe

... that you guys are getting so worked up over a fictional 14 year old.

she's about as real as totally_terry_mullan, guys.

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From mw-raves-return-14861-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 00:11:38 2001
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Subject: [mw] Titonton Duvante

If anyone cares... and they should. =)
Titonton is featured in the February issue of Mixer...



                        

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From mw-raves-return-14862-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 00:15:17 2001
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i think that's the way is one of the most underrated led zeppelin tunes.

mk

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From mw-raves-return-14863-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 00:29:37 2001
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>dont you mean *OUR* children mikey-poo?  =P

on the list of "scariest possible mw-offspring" this one would have to be 
right up there.  :o

>im going to sum all this up with ONE word yall:
>M O D E R A T I O N !

normally, i would agree.  moderation is the key to responsible enjoyment of 
pretty much anything...but at some point, such as 14-year old children, 
even moderation doesn't make sense.  but whatever, twentysomething 
post-ravers bitching on a mailing list aren't going to make a lick of 
difference to the kids that are fucking themselves up.  let them have their 
fun - we're not their parents, and can they really make what's left of the 
rave scene any worse than it already is?  (i still think it's disgusting 
tho, and that parents are seriously dropping the ball)

>love me, hate me, fukk me.

in that order?!

mk

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From mw-raves-return-14864-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 00:35:23 2001
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>If anyone cares... and they should. =)
>Titonton is featured in the February issue of Mixer..

about to embark on a globetrotting super-tour too!  WOOOT!!  BIG 
UPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mk

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let me be the first to say i have never seen so many people at the dayton gym 
club. there were so many fucking epople inside and the line was wrapped 
around the building. madd apologizes to anyone who had to wait hours in line. 
ther were alot of people cutting all night.
inside was insane, this is the first night in a long time were i actually 
heard good music all night,but i was upstairs searching for a long time so i 
never made it downstairs. sound and lights were awesome. had problems with 
the downstairs but was fixed very quickly..sorry faelix! JBrick's visuals 
were awesome as usual! Humpty Hump was off the hook, i wasnt really to big on 
him before but he can sure work a floor.Kos and Xavier were insane those 2 
were ripping shit up hardcore.Kos's scratching was insane, i was sitting up 
there watching them play for awhile Xavier was dancing around going nutts for 
the tracks they were playig, i have alooot of respect for those kats.Ashley 
Powers was pretty good..if you like trance..o wait everyone likes trance.. 
everyone else who played up stairs did a great job. like i said i didnt get 
downstairs at all to see anyone play except for faelix. anyway it was on hell 
of a night. amazing for a first time solo venture. 
BIG FUCKING UPS BRANDON! you guys got my support anyday!

shouts to everyone i saw through out the 
night.paul,kyle,di,imu,ian,jbrick,viktor,steve,john,all you josh's you know.. 
becky,tyler,mase,lil jenny,sean,whitey,my dude with the fake tooth..shit 
whata ur name.stacey,lizze all my friends..anyone i missed fire bomb my 
house,,ill remember next time and of course Brandon that shit was insane, i 
hoped everything worked out for you,it was a great night alot of people had a 
great time and hope to see more events from you

See you all at Synchronicity!!!!!
oh yeah and who ever the fuck is out there stealing Synchronicity fliers and 
replacing them with yours.A. your fucking stupid we know who you are. B. 
Karma will get you

quotes of the night
"Brandons answering service"

:kandy kid holds up a cd to pile of friends on floor:
"But its trance!"

Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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>ther were alot of people cutting all night.

cutter cutter peanut butter don't forget the jel-ly!!!

>oh yeah and who ever the fuck is out there stealing Synchronicity fliers and
>replacing them with yours.A. your fucking stupid we know who you are. B.
>Karma will get you

people have been doing the same thing with krafty beats flyers in the 
columbus shops - i doubt they'd be stealing yours too tho, since i'm the 
one they have a hard on for.  c'mon, "eat swiss"?  gimme a break.  ;P

mk

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the afterhours was funny.
200 kids packed into sirens...
with the b-boys fighting the kandy kids for dancing space.



         


On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:49:16 EST Trancedanz@aol.com writes:
> let me be the first to say i have never seen so many people at the 
> dayton gym 
> club. there were so many fucking epople inside and the line was 
> wrapped 
> around the building. madd apologizes to anyone who had to wait hours 
> in line. 
> ther were alot of people cutting all night.
> inside was insane, this is the first night in a long time were i 
> actually 
> heard good music all night,but i was upstairs searching for a long 
> time so i 
> never made it downstairs. sound and lights were awesome. had 
> problems with 
> the downstairs but was fixed very quickly..sorry faelix! JBrick's 
> visuals 
> were awesome as usual! Humpty Hump was off the hook, i wasnt really 
> to big on 
> him before but he can sure work a floor.Kos and Xavier were insane 
> those 2 
> were ripping shit up hardcore.Kos's scratching was insane, i was 
> sitting up 
> there watching them play for awhile Xavier was dancing around going 
> nutts for 
> the tracks they were playig, i have alooot of respect for those 
> kats.Ashley 
> Powers was pretty good..if you like trance..o wait everyone likes 
> trance.. 
> everyone else who played up stairs did a great job. like i said i 
> didnt get 
> downstairs at all to see anyone play except for faelix. anyway it 
> was on hell 
> of a night. amazing for a first time solo venture. 
> BIG FUCKING UPS BRANDON! you guys got my support anyday!
> 
> shouts to everyone i saw through out the 
> night.paul,kyle,di,imu,ian,jbrick,viktor,steve,john,all you josh's 
> you know.. 
> becky,tyler,mase,lil jenny,sean,whitey,my dude with the fake 
> tooth..shit 
> whata ur name.stacey,lizze all my friends..anyone i missed fire bomb 
> my 
> house,,ill remember next time and of course Brandon that shit was 
> insane, i 
> hoped everything worked out for you,it was a great night alot of 
> people had a 
> great time and hope to see more events from you
> 
> See you all at Synchronicity!!!!!
> oh yeah and who ever the fuck is out there stealing Synchronicity 
> fliers and 
> replacing them with yours.A. your fucking stupid we know who you 
> are. B. 
> Karma will get you
> 
> quotes of the night
> "Brandons answering service"
> 
> :kandy kid holds up a cd to pile of friends on floor:
> "But its trance!"
> 
> Gabe
> Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
> www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
> Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com
> 
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Subject: [mw] Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio

anyone with questions,concerns,comments feel free to email me here. 



  Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
 purchase presale early to avoid waiting in line 
 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
 The Other Side.  (513) 671-5999
 Culture 7  (614) 297-0998
 
 Tons of Free give aways. Arrive Early
 
 Guest list is limited. Call (513) 272-2489 by Jan 20th
 
 This event is being held in a 100% Legal,Clean,Heated Venue.
 Do Not bring Drugs.Alcohal,Weapons,Markers or Bad Vibes
 Firm and Friendly Security will be on hand all night
 There will be Food and Drinks for sale all night
 
 Dj Hardware
 Hardware World/1Groove.com/FL
 
 DJ Hardware has started his mission to conquer the world. From spinning at 
remote outdoor raves, and warehouse parties to headlining major events across 
the globe. Hardware is taking his unique style of mixing to the masses. 
Whether it's hard trance, funky breaks or acid-house, he's a force to be 
reckoned with when it comes to energizing a crowd. 
 
 
 AK1200 
 P.A.M/Orlando,FL
 
 A true pioneer in  Drum an Bass in the US and UK.from being the first 
American DJ to play on UK pirate radio.To the '96 release of "you hear me 
talking". a breakthrough DnB tack for the masses. He continues to headline 
clubs and raves Worldwide. Dont miss the Sweet DnB sounds AK1200
 
 Dj Bam Bam
 UC music/Contaminated/Chicago IL
 
 Whether its in the studio making rave anthems and setting new standards in 
producing or dropping the tight blends that make the dancefloor bounce with 
the  nasty scratching that leaves onlookers' jaws drop, DJ Bam Bam has 
established himself to be a top DJ not to be missed
 
 Twilight Sleep  Live P.A
 Zeropoint Records/Cincinnati
 
 This 5 piece live drum an bass orchestra is gaining world recognition at 
warp speed.The only thing better than hearing these guys play is watching 
them do it Live!!!
 
 Nathan Profit   Live P.A
 Two Tigers/Columbus
 
 Creating some of the most amazing trance sounds in the Midwest.come watch as 
he opens your mind,body and soul Live!!!
 
 Infinite Grey  Live P.A
 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
back to start off the year.Check the tech house wizard as he brings it back 
Live!!!
 
 Negative Zero  Live P.A
 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
 Columbus's best kept secret. This is a debut performance you dont want to 
miss. as he produces his own unique hybrid of trance and breaks.
 
 React
 Subsonik/Cincinnati
 
 React is the man behind Subsonik and driving force in the underground. come 
check out his funky, pounding techno selections that rock the crowd into a 
frenzy.
 
 Matt Freeman
 Octane/Dayton
 
 Finishing up a new mix cd.Matts versatile House sounds and skills take him 
to Detroit for New Years and Australia in April and then off on a US summer 
tour.Come Matt as he brings down the House!
 
 Main Info Line:
 (513) 588 9479
 e mail: jomamaproductions@cinci.rr.com
 
 Support Lines:
 
 Two Tigers (614) 232-6677 -Columbus
                  (216) 485-7777 -Cleveland
 FlashPoint (937) 229-9203 -Dayton
 Subsonik (513) 682-3282 -Cincy
 Digital 54  (216) 556-2969 -Cleveland
 
 Check Out our website
 www.jomamaproductions.homestead.com
 
 www.2tigers.org
 www.hyperreal.org
 subsonik.linenoiz.com
 
 madd thanks to anyone who has ever supported us


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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what makes you think im "fiction"?? huh?!?!?! im
really getting annoyed by people like you saying im
"fiction" whats up with that??? i dont get it. im
ultimitly confused!
~candice
--- chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> 
> ... that you guys are getting so worked up over a
> fictional 14 year old.
> 
> she's about as real as totally_terry_mullan, guys.
> 
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From mw-raves-return-14870-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 01:29:54 2001
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funny funny! you are so lame! can ya please get a life
or make it more interesting without dragging me down
with you? thanx i'd appreciate it :)
~candice
--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> dont worry,i've contacted the real candice rustong
> and her agent is planning
> to sue this imposter because this cop is using her
> name and ruining her
> reputation as a 14 year old candy kid that is 98%
> drug free.
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [mw] i can't believe
> 
> ... that you guys are getting so worked up over a
> fictional 14 year old.
> 
> she's about as real as totally_terry_mullan, guys.
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I think people think u are fictional simply because you change your dialect 
and your story all the time.
I can remember on time u saying that this party on your birthday in AZ was 
going to be your first. Then u just said not to long ago that you have a 
bunch of people your age going to raves with you which would lead us to 
believe that u have gone to parties before. Maybe if u stopped being fake 
from the beginning, we would all believe that u are a real little kid that 
shouldn't be going to parties. 

Just for this whole list, can some please tell me how a person can be 98% 
drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I am right in saying that 
drug use is a yes or no situation. 

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Subject: Re: [mw] children twiching in a corner

>i just get really disturbed when i go to parties and see kids
>too young to even have a drivers liscense in a corner twiching. i know
>poeple who were those kids, and they're older now, and you can just tell
>sometimes.

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From mw-raves-return-14873-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 02:00:40 2001
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Dude, don't pay any attention to 'em.  If U do read their posts, take
everything w/ a serious grain of sarcasm. :)

Candice Rustong wrote:

> what makes you think im "fiction"?? huh?!?!?! im
> really getting annoyed by people like you saying im
> "fiction" whats up with that??? i dont get it. im
> ultimitly confused!
> ~candice
> --- chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
> >
> > ... that you guys are getting so worked up over a
> > fictional 14 year old.
> >
> > she's about as real as totally_terry_mullan, guys.
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From mw-raves-return-14874-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 02:17:44 2001
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If u were the one lying, would u admit it on here, no. Where I come from 
parties have been ruined by little kids that think it is the new fad to be a 
raver. Between Kandy kids and little kids I don't know which is worse or 
which has done the most damage to our scene. As a promoter, I stand at the 
door and if a kid looks to be too young we card them and if they are infact 
too young we show them the door. I am sure the only reason why people on this 
list are ranting on about this is because a lot of them are seeing the scene 
tainted with children that should be at home with there parents watching a 
nice pg-13 Disney movie. It is young children that ruin a scene. That gets 
cops involved and that kill parties. In fact there are, I admit some young 
people that go to parties that I know that are of the age of 14. The only 
reason why we let them in is because we know from previous parties that have 
let them in that they infact prove to be more mature than others their own 
age. This is a warning to ever promoter, my scene is over run by little kids 
now. It only took 3 months to do so. Age requirements are good remedies. 
Trust me, u might lose money but u are saving a far great thing.
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From mw-raves-return-14875-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 02:19:25 2001
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In a message dated 1/21/01 6:29:43 PM Central Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

>  (i still think it's disgusting 
>  tho, and that parents are seriously dropping the ball)
>  

ok, ill give you that, but what about promoters? arent they at least partly 
responsible for who is coming into their events? or is the almighty buck?
what about cops? what about HUMANITY?! 
sorry, this is an issue close to my heart.  i found out over christmas that 
my 13 yr old baby sister went to a party halloween. AND did drugs.  sickening.
when i confronted the promoter (i knew the guy) he replied *she mustve had a 
fake id*....when i asked my sister, she told me they asked her for it and she 
told them she didnt know she needed one to get in, handed them the money and 
went right in, no troubles.  
nevermind, i think i was just using this as an excuse to bitch about it.  but 
on a good note, she does remember what dj's played and can even distinguish 
genres a lil. but STILL 13? 


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From mw-raves-return-14876-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 02:21:43 2001
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ok, lemmie start off by saying, i dont recall lying
once in this whole email thingy. im positive that if i
did i would remember! thanx! so yea, anyway also since
when was there an age requirement to go to raves?
accordidng to all the ravers i know they except anyone
from any age range... so lets just leave it at that.
also, how do you think i could take on such a huge
task for a person like myself to lie to you ppl. i
mean i do have a life. i dont sit here making up lie's
to make myself look "cool" or whatever. i have no clue
where you people get your crazy ideas to accuse me of
such things like bieng fake or a cop or just straight
out lying, but i assure you everything i say and will
ever say is 100% true! not 98% but yep 100% so
recognize!!! thanx! maybe if you guys would give me a
chance...you might learn something. but if you wanna
be stubborn. go ahead. theres nothin i can do! and i
guess if you guys are going to continue being cruel
and more immature than I. then please lemmie know in
advance so i can unsubscribe myself. thanx! But if
not. lemmie get to know you people. like ages?
location? piercings?? (i have my tragus pierced and on
my b-day im gettin my rook pierced) gotta problem with
that? boy, i hope not!
much love,
candice

--- MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
> I think people think u are fictional simply because
> you change your dialect 
> and your story all the time.
> I can remember on time u saying that this party on
> your birthday in AZ was 
> going to be your first. Then u just said not to long
> ago that you have a 
> bunch of people your age going to raves with you
> which would lead us to 
> believe that u have gone to parties before. Maybe if
> u stopped being fake 
> from the beginning, we would all believe that u are
> a real little kid that 
> shouldn't be going to parties. 
> 
> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> how a person can be 98% 
> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> am right in saying that 
> drug use is a yes or no situation. 
> 
> Missa


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Not all promoters fuck up like that. It really isn't even the promoters fault 
but whoever is working the door. When was the last time u saw a promoter with 
nothing more important to do than sit at a door checking to see if his/her 
crew is doing it right? Most promoters here have professional security 
nowadays checking doors for ids and doing searches. It costs more but it is 
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do u honestly have to send messages twice to people
Jesus hit the send button once

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ok, i hear ya, and i understand what your saying and
all. but see, in most of az, raves are what the teens
go to not kids or childeren or whatever but, teens.
see, there were adults there. but honestly when you go
to raves the majority of people that are there are
teens like the ages 14-19 not no 30 year olds. if your
30 and still partying...well, thats kinda funny cause
trust me when im old enough and stuff and when i turn
21 im sure this raving thing will be way behind me,
you would probably see me at like a dance CLUB not a
rave. and about the issue with parents and letting
there teens go to raves...well thats another story
but, my parents would rather see me at a rave, then
being in a gang or being a thug or a straight out
stoner which i have the chance to take that offer to
be in a gang or whatever but i didnt. and if your
concerned with thinking that im one of them teens who
go for the drugs, please think again because i use to
hang out with the stoners and I never ever did more
that experiment one thing! (thats where i get the 98%)
 so yea, now you tell me, where would you rather see a
teen? at a rave? or on the streets as a gang banger,
thug, or even stoner?
~candice

--- MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
> If u were the one lying, would u admit it on here,
> no. Where I come from 
> parties have been ruined by little kids that think
> it is the new fad to be a 
> raver. Between Kandy kids and little kids I don't
> know which is worse or 
> which has done the most damage to our scene. As a
> promoter, I stand at the 
> door and if a kid looks to be too young we card them
> and if they are infact 
> too young we show them the door. I am sure the only
> reason why people on this 
> list are ranting on about this is because a lot of
> them are seeing the scene 
> tainted with children that should be at home with
> there parents watching a 
> nice pg-13 Disney movie. It is young children that
> ruin a scene. That gets 
> cops involved and that kill parties. In fact there
> are, I admit some young 
> people that go to parties that I know that are of
> the age of 14. The only 
> reason why we let them in is because we know from
> previous parties that have 
> let them in that they infact prove to be more mature
> than others their own 
> age. This is a warning to ever promoter, my scene is
> over run by little kids 
> now. It only took 3 months to do so. Age
> requirements are good remedies. 
> Trust me, u might lose money but u are saving a far
> great thing.
> Missa, Intellibass Sounds


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my bad!!!!!!! sorry i didnt realize!!!!!
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Since it fucks up the scene I would rather them be at home. 
Once u hit a certain age in the scene u climb the raver latter.
Possibly be a promoter or a DJ. Because u say that u would end raving at 21 u 
fall into my list of fake ravers. most of my good friends are over the age of 
21 and are the only thing keeping this scene alive. Most of the big time DJs 
are way over 21 i.e.. Paul van Dyke (if u know who that is) my husband is 
over the age of 21 and he is making a damn good living at djing and throwing 
parties. Until u really understand what being a true raver means. Sit down 
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Subject: [mw] i cant believe you people wont shut up

ok, you guys are boring.  you should make your redundant lil argument  
between the two of you. if you dont know how to do that,  instead of hitting 
reply to all, just hit reply to sender.  unless this is just a fukking 
pissing contest, because im dirk fukking digler yall i swear.

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> if your
> 30 and still partying...well, thats kinda funny cause
> trust me when im old enough and stuff and when i turn
> 21 im sure this raving thing will be way behind me,


I've got about 50+ people I'd like you to meet, and that's within my crew
alone...


> you would probably see me at like a dance CLUB not a
> rave.


How in the hell do you get in there??  Don't clubs have more restrictions,
such as age limit???


>  so yea, now you tell me, where would you rather see a
> teen? at a rave? or on the streets as a gang banger,
> thug, or even stoner?


DUDE!!  Why are those even options???

Why not grow up a little before being an adult?


Anyways, in Cleveland, we are instilling an 18 and up rule, starting this
weekend...

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ok, so you think your hardcore now huh? fyi: im not
going to let this "arguement" go till' you do. yea yea
childish right? yea well, thats me, actually its
hereditary. im also half mexican which makes me
experiment in these kinda situations. easy. and yea,
so maybe i dont wanna become a dj or a promoter when i
climb the so called "rave latter" honestly because i
go to raves to be the partier not the host or dj. yea,
i appreciate what the promoters and djs do and i
support them all they way no matter what age they
happen to be. but whatever. but there is one thing i
dont appreciate and that is the fact that every time
theres an available chance to disagree with me about
teens and raving you all jump at it. i mean common you
gotta realize theres one of me and like 20 of you.
maybe you should talk to someone my age, and tell them
exactly what you've been telling me, and see how they
react!
and i suggest you get your shitt straight before you
make any remark about me, unless you have it in my
exact words that i said whatever you wanna accuse me
about. k? thanx.
~candice~
--- MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
> Since it fucks up the scene I would rather them be
> at home. 
> Once u hit a certain age in the scene u climb the
> raver latter.
> Possibly be a promoter or a DJ. Because u say that u
> would end raving at 21 u 
> fall into my list of fake ravers. most of my good
> friends are over the age of 
> 21 and are the only thing keeping this scene alive.
> Most of the big time DJs 
> are way over 21 i.e.. Paul van Dyke (if u know who
> that is) my husband is 
> over the age of 21 and he is making a damn good
> living at djing and throwing 
> parties. Until u really understand what being a true
> raver means. Sit down 
> turn around and shut up.


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Your husband? Let me quote from an email you sent me:

Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:31:00 EST
From: MelloYello1128@aol.com
To: peterstw@purdue.edu
Subject: Re: hey

i am a senior in highschool
i have been going to parties for almost 5 years now in Feb
i have worked with production companies for 3 years now and i just climbed
my
way up the latter until one of the promoters quit and i was asked to step
in
since i had been doing this the longest
i know i am young but i know my shit when it comes to promoting (not
trying
to brag)
Melissa

Senior in high school and married to a guy who's over 21? You're either
massively fucked up or you're lying.

toby.

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> Since it fucks up the scene I would rather them be at home.
> Once u hit a certain age in the scene u climb the raver latter.
> Possibly be a promoter or a DJ. Because u say that u would end raving at 21 u
> fall into my list of fake ravers. most of my good friends are over the age of
> 21 and are the only thing keeping this scene alive. Most of the big time DJs
> are way over 21 i.e.. Paul van Dyke (if u know who that is) my husband is
> over the age of 21 and he is making a damn good living at djing and throwing
> parties. Until u really understand what being a true raver means. Sit down
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candice - i think you'd be a lot happier at www.bluelight.nu - the people 
on this list are a bit more mature than what i think you're looking for.

mk

At 06:54 PM 1/21/01 -0800, Candice Rustong wrote:
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Subject: Re: [mw] Titonton Duvante

i care !!! i care !!!
/me will be buying and issue of mixer tomorrow !!!
anybody know where i can ???

-THE bitch iySyS-


: If anyone cares... and they should. =)
: Titonton is featured in the February issue of Mixer...
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Subject: [mw] equality : a new type of "net-meet"



 Saturday is quickly approaching, and as you all decide to spend your $5,
and
 make the trek to Signal in Cleveland, I would like to invite all of you to
 something a little different a few hours prior to the event...

 Brian C. (owner of Sphere Productions), "Grandpa"/"Doc" aka Josh, Ian
 Mariano, and I (darw_n) will be hosting a sort of fire-side chat in down
 town Cleveland at Liquid...

 The intentions are this...

 I have stated before, that the real downfall of the scene is the
 lime-lighting and inequality that exists.  DJ's and Promoters have
generated
 a status that seems to separate them, making them elevated from the rest of
 the crowd - psuedo rock-stars.  I really feel that this is *the* most
 harmful element of the scene, it is this rock-stardom that makes raves no
 different than a U2 concert, as I have said before, we have turned into a
 scene of people staring at center stage waiting for the next queue to raise
 our hands.  So this "fire-side" chat is a relaxing forum in which we all
can
 be together, equaled amongst each other and ask the four representatives
 questions, or vise versa, we ask you what you think, *without* a massive
 sound system to interfere (and trust me, the sound we have for that night
 will be so good, talking on a conversational level just wont happen!!;).
At
 the very least, we can all hang out, flirt, throw french fries at bagina,
 and have a little dinner before we gather and make some history sat.
 night...

 ...and we *will* make history.

 So, as it stands, the net meet for Signal will be at about 7 or so on
 Saturday at Liquid on West 6th, downtown cleveland, all is invited...

 Final event details will appear on Friday...

 darw_n

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the magazine store downtown adjacent to the Founain....I believe its called
Fountain News and Books or something

shawne
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> i care !!! i care !!!
> /me will be buying and issue of mixer tomorrow !!!
> anybody know where i can ???
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he is mentioned ina bout every mixer,ur,xlr8r magazine i read.im so surprised 
he doesnt play around here alot more. 


 baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< i care !!! i care !!!
 /me will be buying and issue of mixer tomorrow !!!
 anybody know where i can ???
 
 -THE bitch iySyS-
 
 
 : If anyone cares... and they should. =)
 : Titonton is featured in the February issue of Mixer... >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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Subject: [mw] twitchin in corners

obviously this candice girl is too young to conjugate
the verb "to be" therefore she shouldn't be going to raves

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At 12:02 AM 1/22/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>he is mentioned ina bout every mixer,ur,xlr8r magazine i read.im so surprised
>he doesnt play around here alot more.

Well, I've seen him twice in the past few months.  Once in Columbus at the 
Malfunction 2nd Anniv. party, and once at Lift when they brought Eva Cazal 
in.  But, then again, there were very few people who showed up for that 
one.  They brought both Titonton and Todd Sines from Ele_mental that 
week.  Its a shame most folks in Cincinnati didn't come out for that.  It 
was rather amusing watching the three of them doing shots and playing with 
glow sticks...That and they all spun sets that I thoroughly enjoyed.




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Subject: [mw] Indy Events

I just found some flyers for SUBsequence and Infrared Vision.  I found
them at Cavanaugh Hall on the IUPUI campus.  They look pretty cool.
Hopefully I will be able to check them out.  later, ryan





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Synonymous Entertainment presents.

+--STOOPID CUPID--->

on Valentines Day weekend
February, 10  2001
Des Moines, Iowa=20



disc jockeys for the night include


SCOTT HENRY
BUZZ, FEVER, ULTRA RECORDS - WASHINGTON DC

PETE MOSS
OVUM RECORDINGS, RECLINE RECORDS, LARGE MUSIC - PHILADELPHIA

THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT
CARL MICHAELS, WILLYUM & KEVIN V
4 TURNTABLE TAG-TEAM SET



drum-n-bass

SPEX=20
TRINITY CREW, ALLIANCE PRODUCTIONS - WASHINGTON DC

MC BRACE
NEW TIME COMPLEX  - MINNEAPOLIS


house muzik

DAVID BRITTON
CROWBAR, SMARTBAR - CHICAGO

DJ TRUE
THC, 180 RECORDS - KANSAS

HEPCAT=20
ALLIANCE PRODUCTIONS - HAWAII

REK
SPC - DES MOINES


techno, 2 step, breaks

JR=20
SPC - DES MOINES

DAVE LEO
EMPERIAL FORCES - CEDAR RAPIDS

EASY RIDER
FUSION FORCE, JVC, CAFE FUSION - MINNEAPOLIS=20

view the flyer inside and out or how ever you please @
http://www.atomagrafx.com/proofs/alliance/stoopid_outside.jpg
http://www.atomagrafx.com/proofs/alliance/stoopid_inside.jpg
or email alliance808@aol.com to recieve a flyer if you haven't already =
picked one up.



-STOOPID INFO-
Stoopid Cupid Saturday February 10th 2001

@ Stagecoach Spaces Convention Center

5055 NW 2nd Ave Des Moines Iowa

Admission/Hours:

Stoopid Cupid activities begin @ 10pm and end @ 6 in the morning.

Fifteen bucks Presale- Discounts b4 11pm - Twenty-Five Bucks after

Entry:

There will be one direct line for all presales & guest list entries plus =
two additional lines devoted solely to cash payments to make everyone's =
entry as swift & convenient as possible.

Sound/Lighting:

Penetrating, Arrows of sound reaching your heart on parallel plains and =
frequencies. Experience Visuals that stimulate your mind with intimate =
beams of light that result in optimum valentines satisfaction. 4- watt =
argon laser lightshow & Heart Pounding Sound  provided by Hypnotix =
Minneapolis


Presale ticket locations:

Des Moines: Mid Air & ink - 515-243-0009 & Hip Hop Heaven - 515-271-8749

Ames: Boheme Bistro - 515-296.4674

Kansas City: 180 Records - 816-531-3404

Minneapolis: Caf=E9 Fusion - 612-724-6245

Directions:

Points south: Kansas=20

Take 35 north towards Des Moines. Follow to 80 east to 2nd Ave (exit =
135). Take left at lights; venue will be on the R one block N of =
interstate.

Points North: Minneapolis:=20

Take 35 south towards Des Moines, Follow to 80/35 junction. Take exit =
(135) Take R at lights, venue will be on the R, 1 block N of interstate.

Points East - Davenport: 80 west to Des Moines follow to 2nd ave (exit =
135) see above.

Points west - Omaha: 80 east to 80/35 junction, take Chi exit, follow 80 =
east to 2nd ave (exit 135) see above.

Vending:

All vendors must register w/ Synonymous two weeks prior to event, either =
by contacting our info line or via e-mail at SynonymousInfo@aol.com



Synonymous Info line: 515-830-3858

Hypnotix Minneapolis Info line 651-257-7200


SHOW SOME LOVE & SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE!


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yo, i wrote you privately w/ a link that you can use to find out about
events in the madison/milwaukee area - no response.  you joined mw-raves, so
prepare for the mw-treatment.  you're not being singled out because you're
14, you're being singled out because you keep coming back and asking for
more!

i didn't think my email was all that mean :p  to be honest, it wasn't for
you, it was for the people that remember who totally_terry_mullan was/is :p

i like being lame,
-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Candice Rustong 
Subject: RE: [mw] i can't believe


funny funny! you are so lame! can ya please get a life
or make it more interesting without dragging me down
with you? thanx i'd appreciate it :)
~candice


--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> dont worry,i've contacted the real candice rustong
> and her agent is planning
> to sue this imposter because this cop is using her
> name and ruining her
> reputation as a 14 year old candy kid that is 98%
> drug free.
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chrise@pubnix.org
> Subject: [mw] i can't believe
> 
> ... that you guys are getting so worked up over a
> fictional 14 year old.
> 
> she's about as real as totally_terry_mullan, guys.
> 

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At 09:39 PM 2001-01-21, MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
  Most of the big time DJs
>are way over 21 i.e.. Paul van Dyke (if u know who that is) my husband is
>over the age of 21 and he is making a damn good living at djing and throwing
>parties. Until u really understand what being a true raver means. Sit down
>turn around and shut up.


Yeah, you're not a real raver until you've mispelled bad trance producers 
names in holier-than-thou mw flames....

rave on,
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you were wrong joe.

candice does, and always did post from a yahoo addy.

and even if she is a cop, that would mean she had handcuffs, right?

/me is going to hell

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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From: "Dynamic Groove" <events@dynamicgroove.com>
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> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:34:21 -0800 (PST), Candice Rustong wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Didn't her first post have an AOL address ?
> >
> > ~~*~~* no i dont even have an aol address!!!!!!
>
> I just remember looking at the address field of my
> mail program and seeing AOL.  I thought that was
> suspicious, seeing as your post was flame bait
> (at least on this sarcastic list it was).
>
> I could easily be wrong.  Maybe I saw the
> address above or below it.
>
>
> >YES IM REAL
>
> I'm happy for you. =)
>
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> >  she's not gonna take
> >> any advice by us being condescending.  She's
> >> gonna have to learn the hard way or wake up
> >> on her own.  If her parents are letting her Rave
> >> at 14/15, the problem lies deeper anyway.
> >
> >  that right there ^ is just wrong!
> >>
>
>
> I disagree.  16 ? Maybe.
> @ 18, you are responsible for yourself
> that's ok.  But at 14/15 ?  No way.
>
> Raves are an adult environment.
> I don't mean "porno adult", but they
> are not suitable for youngsters.
>
> If your parents are letting you rave @ 14,
> then they seriously need to re-evaluate
> the situation (at least until raves are
> "cleaned up")
>
> Don't bother arguing with me about it.
> You have your opinion, I have mine.
>
> Over and out.
>
> - Joe
>
>
> ______________________________________________
> Joe Carroll - Madison, WI - Dynamic Groove Entertainment
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Subject: [mw] NRR xfl cheerleaders

i just watched my tape of wwf smackdown taped this past week in chicago, and
they debuted the chicago enforcer cheerleaders.

one thing had me konfused.  NONE of the cheerleaders were chicagaland
mw-raves hotties.  are you guys just too busy with your day jobs?

just wondering,

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com



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michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< err.  please consult a qualified source regarding the above 
 statement.  even "recreational" use of a lot of "rave drugs" will fuck up 
 an adult pretty gnarly-like on a long-term basis.  the fact that you have 
 not finished developing just ups the risks.
 
 i'm moving 6,000 miles from civilization to raise my children.  this is 
fucked.
  >>

i can attest to michael as a fine example of an
adult who got fucked up pretty gnarly-like on a
long term basis due to "recreational" use of a
lot of "rave drugs"

michael havin children?!...now that's a scarey 
thought!..hyeah, maybe it would be a good idea
for you to move back to mars, michael...

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darwin@veriomail.com writes:

<< > 30 and still partying...well, thats kinda funny cause
 > trust me when im old enough and stuff and when i turn
 > 21 im sure this raving thing will be way behind me,
 
 
 I've got about 50+ people I'd like you to meet, and that's within my crew
 alone...>>

hyeah, i'm 30 and i bet i can out dance all y'alls!

i wuz serious when i asked "who's your daddy?"
 
 
<<Anyways, in Cleveland, we are instilling an 18 and up rule, 
starting this weekend...
  >>

you guys are just now instilling that rule?!

i think columbus finally initiated that rule just this
past year when thee upteenth teen od'ed at
the valleydale...forever losing that venue!!...way 
to go crackheads!!

but then again when you've got newbies actually 
believing in the bullshit the shadier dealers tell em
nowadays...wha'd u expect would happen?!...oh what's
a good jinx line: "dooood, this double dip blotter will 
dose you so hard you don't understand!...you'll be 
holdin up the walls when i jack yo shit!!"

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hgarver@fuse.net writes:

<< Well, I've seen him twice in the past few months.  Once in Columbus at the 
 Malfunction 2nd Anniv. party, and once at Lift when they brought Eva Cazal 
 in.  But, then again, there were very few people who showed up for that 
 one.  They brought both Titonton and Todd Sines from Ele_mental that 
 week.  >>

tis true, titonton and todd have become a bit played out
round here since you used to see em all the time on
flyers...but they have moved on to bigger and better 
projects like dragonfly and madlabs...

the scene has progressed since the ele mental minimal
techno days...most of the true skool has moved way
underground...invite only parties...tight house parties
...peeps don't even post on pb-cle-raves anymore cuz
there's so many posers on there...but for the most part
the scene has grown up alot here with a slieu of some 
very nice dance clubs emerging in columbus like: fabric,
glow, enigma, the venue and pulse....very posh clubs, 
highly decorated, clean, and strict against underage drinking 
and drugs since there has been a crackdown here...nobody 
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Subject: [mw] casbah - tues - columbus, ohio

speakin o new clubs in columbus, ohio...

phlipside productions presents...

rock the casbah

tues nights

easton town center's newest upscale nightclub and lounge

w/ dinner gift certificae giveaways to easton's premier
restaurants

4014 townsfair way

614.572.1505

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i thinks it's because he has an agent and costs a lot of money...and
nobody wants to spend a shitload of money on a dj that doesn't appear on
mtv.



On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:02:14 EST Trancedanz@aol.com writes:
> he is mentioned ina bout every mixer,ur,xlr8r magazine i read.im so 
> surprised 
> he doesnt play around here alot more. 
> 
> 
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> one thing had me konfused.  NONE of the cheerleaders were chicagaland
> mw-raves hotties.  are you guys just too busy with your day jobs?

yes.

curious networks cheersquad? hmmmm....

i know i wouldn't mind seeing hellige and atomly in those cute l'il skirts
;P

/j






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    Yeah seriously, most promoters here use cops doing the searches, it's
only recently gotten bad enough here that I'd think an age limit would be
smart, but it's usually been enough to just avoid flyering in places like
high schools, but a few stupid kids being retards and off it goes. Take a
look at mnvibe.com if you want to see why letting high school kids into
raves is stupid.

Matt Murphy
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> Not all promoters fuck up like that. It really isn't even the promoters
fault
> but whoever is working the door. When was the last time u saw a promoter
with
> nothing more important to do than sit at a door checking to see if his/her
> crew is doing it right? Most promoters here have professional security
> nowadays checking doors for ids and doing searches. It costs more but it
is
> worth it.



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> Yeah, you're not a real raver until you've mispelled bad trance producers
> names in holier-than-thou mw flames....

    Or you know someone who makes their living spinning! Riiiiight... We're
gonna have you move down to storage room B... thaaaanks.

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Subject: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As much as 
I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers (15-17) at 
parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor while 
rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties.. lungs 
didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects won't 
be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to the 
word "e-tard". :(

Being an old fogey myself, I love age limits. Most 21 plus people don't act 
so irresponsibly. Of course, there are exceptions, but the incidence of 
crackheaded behavior is in direct porportion with age. ;)
In Atlanta, most parties are either 18 and up or 21 and up. THAT IS A VERY 
GOOD THING.

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did anyone try to give her a sea breeze to make her giving birth more
special?  maybe she just needed more hugs.  Was her rolling buddy her Lamaze
partner?  Did they name the child after the party?  Or maybe the pill? (mom,
why is my name "thumbs up"?)  I hope her newborn raves with her in one of
those "carry around your kid like a backpack" things.  Maybe her kid won't
get searched and she can sneak drugs in in its diaper.  

PLUR!

spending that last bit of karma,
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One girl even went into labor while 
rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties.. lungs 
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Anything happenning in Chicago the weekend of February 23?

Marie

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>From: Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com>
>
>did anyone try to give her a sea breeze to make her giving birth more
>special?  maybe she just needed more hugs.  Was her rolling buddy her
>Lamaze
>partner?  Did they name the child after the party?  Or maybe the pill?
>(mom,
>why is my name "thumbs up"?)  I hope her newborn raves with her in one of
>those "carry around your kid like a backpack" things.  Maybe her kid won't
>get searched and she can sneak drugs in in its diaper.
>

HAHA :) Sad though it is, She said that labor didn't hurt at all.. that it
"felt good"... Perhaps instead of an epidural, expectant mothers should
recieve a pill.. hmmm.

Seriously, (I know it's hard for you, but try to be for the sake of
discussion;)If the child had tested positive for drugs, she would have been
arrested and the her baby placed into the custody of social services. Maybe
that would have been better for the kid instead of being raised by a
"hippie-deadhead raver" and a dealer who is loosing his teeth because of a
meth addiction...

Oi.

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From mw-raves-return-14912-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 16:24:18 2001
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umm, ok, trying really hard to be serious.  it won't last, but we'll give it
a shot.

if she took a pill, how could the child *not* test positive for drugs?
isn't an amphetamine pretty easy to pick up with simple "first level" drugs
tests?  i don't pretent to be mr. wizard or anything (although when i was 13
i did have a paper route in lacrosse and his mom was on my route,
seriously!), but how could the child not test positive for drugs?  my guess
is that they didn't get involved - and if they did, there must have been
some great story they told to allow them to keep the child.

i've been thinking of adopting a kid someday, but maybe i just need to wait
until i can trade a pill @ a party for one.

damn, i was trying really hard.
-t

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>From: Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com>
>
>did anyone try to give her a sea breeze to make her giving birth more
>special?  maybe she just needed more hugs.  Was her rolling buddy her 
>Lamaze
>partner?  Did they name the child after the party?  Or maybe the pill? 
>(mom,
>why is my name "thumbs up"?)  I hope her newborn raves with her in one of
>those "carry around your kid like a backpack" things.  Maybe her kid won't
>get searched and she can sneak drugs in in its diaper.
>

HAHA :) Sad though it is, She said that labor didn't hurt at all.. that it 
"felt good"... Perhaps instead of an epidural, expectant mothers should 
recieve a pill.. hmmm.

Seriously, (I know it's hard for you, but try to be for the sake of 
discussion;)If the child had tested positive for drugs, she would have been 
arrested and the her baby placed into the custody of social services. Maybe 
that would have been better for the kid instead of being raised by a 
"hippie-deadhead raver" and a dealer who is loosing his teeth because of a 
meth addiction...


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>From: Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com>
>To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:24:13 -0600
>
>umm, ok, trying really hard to be serious.  it won't last, but we'll give 
>it
>a shot.
>
>if she took a pill, how could the child *not* test positive for drugs?
>isn't an amphetamine pretty easy to pick up with simple "first level" drugs
>tests?  i don't pretent to be mr. wizard or anything (although when i was 
>13
>i did have a paper route in lacrosse and his mom was on my route,
>seriously!), but how could the child not test positive for drugs?  my guess
>is that they didn't get involved - and if they did, there must have been
>some great story they told to allow them to keep the child.
>
>i've been thinking of adopting a kid someday, but maybe i just need to wait
>until i can trade a pill @ a party for one.
>
>damn, i was trying really hard.
>-t
>

I have no idea how it didn't test positive, unless the particular pill 
didn't have anything they were testing for i.e. they weren't testing for 
extasy, just crack. WHo can say?

I will say that I am proud of you! you did manage to be serious through most 
of the post! congrats! is this a record? ;)

Leigh

p.s. next time I know of someone who would trade their firstborn for a pill, 
I'll be sure to let you know..;)
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i've been more serious in posts before, although not lately - perhaps this
is a new beginning, yes, i feel something strange coming over me, i'm on the
edge of a new reality, i see so much more in this world than before.
everything is brighter and more colorful now, richer, warmer, i feel god.  i
think i'm going to put on some air supply and sing along.  someone do
rolling tricks with me!

wait, no, sorry, i'm just being sarcastic again.

btw, unless i've become really uncool (quite possible, i am a big nerd after
all), what happened to all the fun stuff going on weeknights in madison?
for a while it seemed like every restaurant or bar wanted raver types in
their establishment after hours to bounce around in big pants.  other than
G.I.V.E. the last wednesday of the month, i dunno what happened to
everything else.  info is appreciated.

-t

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I will say that I am proud of you! you did manage to be serious through most

of the post! congrats! is this a record? ;)

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Devil Girl wrote:

-->I have no idea how it didn't test positive, unless the particular pill 
-->didn't have anything they were testing for i.e. they weren't testing for 
-->extasy, just crack. WHo can say?

the placenta is a pseudo-organ that develops in the wombs of pregnant
mothers.  it serves as the connection between mommy's blood stream and
the umbilical chord.  this is the 'afterbirth' that so many native
cultures view as a delicacy (ewww).  remember that Live song?  'her
placenta falls to the floor'?

anywho, it protects the baby by stopping toxins and impurities in the
mother from getting to the baby, while letting vital nutrients pass.
perhaps it stops ecstasy from reaching the child?  i think i read
somewhere that so-called 'crack babies' are the result of unhealthy
mothers looking for a fix instead of a meal, more than cocaine getting
into the child's system. 

this rolling mother business is easily the most fucked up, twisted
thing i've heard all month.  it definitely tops reading about a girl
on the hulla board who calls herself 'Rugrat' giving birth to one of
her own.

to all the rave-chicas out there who refuse to indulge responsibly -
please, for the love of christ, stop breeding.

-g


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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

-->i've been more serious in posts before, although not lately - perhaps this
-->is a new beginning, yes, i feel something strange coming over me, i'm on the
-->edge of a new reality, i see so much more in this world than before.
-->everything is brighter and more colorful now, richer, warmer, i feel god.  i
-->think i'm going to put on some air supply and sing along.  someone do
-->rolling tricks with me!

molecule sighting #3579326...


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don't you think its safer that ravers have their babies wile rolling at
parties? i mean, if they are gonna get knocked up and have children, don't
you think they should be doing it in a 'safe' environment?  promoters should
have the responsibility of providing medical care in case someone just
decides to drop their offspring while getting their groove on.

furthermore, i'm debating about having major surgery at the next rave i go
to, i think it might help my recovery if i wait to have my appendix removed
while listening to some emotional uplifting trance by (insert your favorite
trance dj here).

its tribal, it has to be right.
-t




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this rolling mother business is easily the most fucked up, twisted
thing i've heard all month.  it definitely tops reading about a girl
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her own.

to all the rave-chicas out there who refuse to indulge responsibly -
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          +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
           ***  DanceSafe E-News  ***
         Issue No. 2, January 18-24, 2001
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             and contact information.

            Please copy and distribute.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

In this issue:

1. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAUNCHES ANTI-RAVE
    OFFENSIVE
2. New Pill Results Available
3. Future Tribe Project Thrives Under Pressure
4. Say What? Tips on Hearing Protection
5. Movie Review: Traffic
6. Ecstasy Conference Deadline Extended

Welcome to Issue #2 of DanceSafe E-News.  If you
missed the first issue, you'll soon find it
archived at: http://www.dancesafe.org/news.html

If you're just tuning in, you're just in time.
The U.S. government has begun its assault on
the rave community in earnest, threatening the
health, safety, and liberty of everyone.  We
urge you to read the story below and prepare to
take action.

Thanks,
DanceSafe E-News

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1. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAUNCHES ANTI-RAVE OFFENSIVE

    CRACKDOWN COMING SOON TO YOUR CITY

    DANCESAFE NEEDS YOUR HELP!

In New Orleans this week, a well-known rave
promoter, James "Donnie" Estopinal, 32, of New
Orleans club owner Robert J. Brunet, 37, of
Metairie, and his brother Brian Brunet, 33, of
Tampa, Fla. will turn themselves in to a federal
court after having been indicted under a 1986
federal "anti-crack house" law.  The indictments
represent the beginning of what federal
authorities have indicated will be a nationwide
effort to shut down the rave scene in an effort
to reduce drug use among young people. By
equating raves with crackhouses, the government
is asserting that drug use is the primary purpose
for holding the events, and, in fact, is the
central focus of the rave culture itself. If
they are successful, it will be de facto illegal
to hold or promote an electronic music event
anywhere in America.

The defendants, who are not accused of any direct
involvement with illicit drugs, are nevertheless
facing 20 years in prison and $500,000 fines
SIMPLY FOR THROWING RAVES.

The case has received widespread media coverage
since the indictments were announced last week,
as, for the first time in a generation,
government forces have essentially declared war
on an entire youth culture. The outcome of this
case carries serious implications, not only for
the rave community, but for young people
everywhere.  Eddie Jordan, the federal prosecutor
who brought the case, told ABC News that he has
already heard from US Attorneys around the
country who are hoping to use this same strategy
to arrest rave promoters in their own districts.

You can read the local New Orleans coverage of the
case at:
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n076/a07.html?7132
http://www.nola.com/news/todaysnews.ssf?/t-p/frontpage/348032548-0113national0

As shocking as they seem, however, the arrests
in New Orleans do not come as a complete
surprise.  Nearly one year ago, the National
Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) launched an
intensive anti-rave media campaign, which has
resulted in enormous coverage of raves and
ecstasy by the national media.  Six months ago,
the DEA held a conference on "raves and club
drugs" in Washington DC, during which numerous
speakers claimed that raves were "nothing more
than crack houses."  The seeds for this
crackdown, then, have been sown for some time.

You can read a report on the DEA Ecstasy
Conference at:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/reports/DEAconf.htm

The final justification, it seems, for this
offensive came less than one month ago when the
results of the latest National Household Survey
on Drug Abuse showed that ecstasy use among
young people had skyrocketed. Availability of the
drug was also shown to have risen sharply. Thus,
armed with enough statistics and rhetoric to
frighten American parents, and enough media hype
to push politicians to feed their budgets, the
federal drug war bureaucracy swung into action.

But the chosen strategy - trying to equate raves
with crackhouses - presents significant hurdles
for the DEA. According to the 1986 law against
crack house operators, a "crack house" is a place
"created or maintained for the purpose of"
conducting illegal drug activity.  This may be
difficult for federal prosecutors to show in any
case.  In New Orleans, it seems that the
promoter and club in question took standard
measures to prevent drug use from occurring.  All
patrons were searched upon entering, and those
found with illegal drugs inside the club, or even
suspected of having illegal drugs on them, were
either ejected or arrested by the club's
security.  These are standard practices within
the music industry, and hardly the actions of
someone whose purpose was to provide a venue for
people to use illegal drugs.

In singling out the electronic music events from
other music events where drug use takes place,
this indictment constitutes a serious violation
of the First Amendment rights of a community's
free expression and right to assemble. Music is
a constitutionally protected form of free speech,
and banning or"cracking down" upon the
gatherings of one form of music culture is
something that can and must be opposed.

Banning raves is unlikely to prevent youth drug
use, but such a move IS likely to increase the
risks of the use that does occur.  In Florida,
for example, six young people died last Spring
when a batch of fake ecstasy tablets containing
PMA passed through the state.  None of these
individuals who died purchased their pills at
raves.  In fact, the deaths occurred in the wake
of "Operation Heat Rave," a concerted effort by
Florida law enforcement and the state's drug
czar's office to close down the rave scene
there.

Perhaps if the rave scene had been allowed to
continue, and the State of Florida worked with
the industry to implement safe settings
protocols and harm reduction measures, one or
more of these young people who died would have
come across a DanceSafe booth and learned to
identify and avoid the deadly PMA Mitsubishi
tablets going around.

Banning raves will not stop drug use, nor will
it prevent deaths from misuse and abuse, but it
will make it much harder for public health
organizations who do outreach to drug users to
get potentially life-saving information into the
hands of those who need it.

Check the DanceSafe website very soon for more
information.

DanceSafe, in conjunction with the American Civil
Liberties Union and a number of promoters around
the country, have been working intensely during
the last week to put together a plan of action,
which we will be launching shortly.

What can you do to help?

1. Sign up to DanceSafe's email list (if you
    haven't already.)

2. Forward this story to friends and tell them
    to sign up.  We will need to have as many
    people as possible informed and ready to act
    if we are to effectively combat this
    strategy of oppression.

3. Donate to DanceSafe, either by credit card
    on our secure site at
    http://dancesafe.org/support.html
    or by sending a check to DanceSafe at:
    1714 Franklin Street
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    DO NOT send pills to this address)

It will cost money to create and implement a
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contact us at donations@dancesafe.org.

4. Follow this story and the emerging efforts to
    fight back via DanceSafe E-News and on our site.
    Stay informed! Get involved! Stand up for your
    community and your culture!

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2. New Pill Results Are In

DanceSafe's laboratory pill testing program
results are in for the first half of January,
20001.  The pills tested include 18 samples
from 11 states.

Check them out at:
http://www.dancesafe.org/currentresults.html

To send in a pill for evaluation, please follow
the instructions here:
http://www.dancesafe.org/howtosendinapill.html

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3. Central Florida's DanceSafe Chapter, Future
    Tribe Project Thrives Under Pressure
    By David Curiel, FTP

In the winter of 1998, a group of raver
activists banded together in an effort to
promote the positive aspects of the rave culture.
We became the Future Tribe Project (FTP).  FTP
was created in hopes of uniting the Florida
ravers through community service, promoting
health and safety, and involving ravers in the
electoral process.

One of FTP's first activities was to collect
toys for a toy drive organized by the Hollywood,
Florida Police Department.  Our donation of over
100 toys had a big impact and was covered in a
local newspaper, and gave us a chance to show
the general public that we ravers actually
cared about the larger community.  Since then,
FTP has been involved in numerous community
volunteer programs like Habitat for Humanity and
Adopt-a-Highway, as well as helping in retirement
homes for the elderly.  Our volunteerism is
motivated by a desire to live our daily lives by
the universal timeless ethical values of PLUR
(Peace, Love, Unity and Respect) embraced by the
rave community.

During the early days of FTP it became clear that
our work would have political implications.  Many
anti-rave laws had been passed in Florida that
jeopardized our basic constitutional rights.
Because of the war on drugs, racial profiling
and illegal searches are commonplace police
practices in our state as in so many others.

In the summer of 1999, Florida law enforcement
launched Operation Heat Rave.  Clubs were raided
all over the state.  From the 1,300 people
arrested, only around 30 were actually charged,
but the effect was disastrous for the community.
In response, FTP organized voter registration
booths and made efforts to educate our community
about candidates that were sympathetic to our
cause in hopes of motivating more ravers to hit
the polls.

That same summer, an Anti-Rave Task Force was
created in Florida that shut down many raves
and venues.  The amount of emergency 911 calls
from clubs and raves as well as the "rave-
related" deaths reached alarming numbers.  It
then became evident that one of the things we
needed to focus on was educating our peers about
their responsibility to themselves when using
mind-altering substances.  As members of a
community, everything we do affects and reflects
on others.

FTP soon learned that many of the overdoses were
caused by a lack of information about drugs and
the safety issues surrounding the late night
dance culture.  It was obvious that people
weren't going to respond to "Just Say No," and
we didn't want to pass judgment on anyone, but
we knew that we had to take some action to
minimize the number of people getting hurt.  We
wanted to present our peers with unbiased
information and promote moderation and self-
awareness.  We began to pass out flyers at
parties, and becoming a part of DanceSafe was
the logical next step to take.  DanceSafe
provides us with leadership, structure, and the
accurate, non-biased information we need.

Due to the regressive attitude towards drug use
in Florida, pill testing is absolutely out of
the question.  Because we cannot provide this
service, our work is focused on raising
awareness through peer education.

Because raves have been systematically all but
eliminated in Florida, we've been forced to find
other ways to provide harm reduction information
and connect with our community.  We have put
together free daytime park gatherings which
provide a laid-back atmosphere where we can
interact with people one on one.  We feel a
sense of responsibility as "old-schoolers" to
be there for our peers.

As individuals, we at FTP feel that the rave
culture has contributed greatly to our lives.
We will continue to do our best to make our
scene a healthier, safer one.  Ultimately, we
hope to do our part in raising collective
awareness and harmony, promoting the spiritual
advancement of rave culture.

FTP is on the web at http://www.ftpcfl.cjb.net
You can find other contact information for them
and other DanceSafe chapters at http://www.dancesafe.org/findachapter.html

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4. Say What?  Tips on Hearing Protection
    By Sylvia Thyssen, DanceSafe Natl. Office

The dangers of drugs are well-publicized, and
more and more people are aware of the risks of
dehydration and heatstroke.  But one of the
greatest dangers of rave and danceclub culture
is prolonged exposure to loud music. Taking
responsibility for protecting yourself today
will help reduce the risk of hearing damage and
loss later in your life.

Promoters and club owners also have a
responsibility for helping to make their venues
safer for patrons. Although sound levels are
monitored by police for their potential as a
public nuisance, monitoring sound levels inside
establishments for the protection of the
patrons' hearing is not a priority for public
health departments. Following the simple
recommendations below will make a big difference
for your hearing health!

AVOID dancing next to the speakers. Having a
distance of at least 10 feet between you and a
speaker is extremely important. As your distance
from the speaker decreases, risk of damage
increases exponentially.

LESS exposure to loud music is better. Taking
breaks of 30 minutes or more in a room where
sound levels are less than 90 Dcb is extremely
useful in lowering the risk of hearing loss.

EXHAUSTION and high ambient temperature increase
the risk of hearing loss. Taking breaks from
dancing and drinking adequate water helps
protect your ears from metabolic exhaustion that
can lead to damage.

ASK your doctor about your prescription
medications and whether they make your ears more
sensitive. Certain medications can increase the
chance of damage from exposure to loud music.

CHECK your family history. Hereditary risk can
play a role in the chances of developing hearing
loss.

OVERALL physical health affects your risk of
hearing loss. Decreased blood flow to your
muscles leaves you more at risk. Exercising
regularly improves your resilience.

SHORT term hearing loss -- like what you
experience for a few hours after you get out of
an event -- is a risk factor for long-term
hearing loss.

No one can stress this one enough:
wear earplugs -- wear earplugs -- wear earplugs
-- wear earplugs -- WEAR EARPLUGS!

Recommended devices for protecting your hearing

CUSTOM EARPLUGS (around $150) offer the best
protection.  They are made from a imprint of
your ear canal, which makes them very
comfortable to wear.  They also decrease all
frequencies equally, so the music won't be
distorted.  See <http//www.hearnet.com>
for information about these earplugs.

ER EARPLUGS (around $20) reduce decibel levels
the same across the frequency levels.  Users
say they aren't as comfortable as custom plugs,
but they are still extremely useful (as well
as more affordable).

INDUSTRIAL FOAM EARPLUGS (cheap) decrease high
frequency sounds, making speech and music
sound muffled.  They are less comfortable
and they distort sound to an extent; however,
they are very useful and should be used when
other options aren't available.  They are the
most commonly available type of earplug, and
many DanceSafe chapters hand them out for free!

COTTON AND TOILET PAPER are of no use in the
protection of your hearing.

For Promoters and DJs

PROVIDING chill out rooms with quieter music is
really important. Chill out rooms allow patrons
to take breaks which are an essential way to
help prevent hearing loss.

INCLUDING a physical barrier between patrons and
speakers at 10-20 feet and/or lifting speakers
off the ground helps protect patrons from
exposure to especially dangerous levels of
sound.

LIFTING speakers off the ground. When you put
speakers on the ground, you lose 8 decibels of
the low frequency sound. DJs often adjust their
sound levels to compensate for this loss.
Lifting speakers helps in two ways: it prevents
patrons from getting too close to speakers, and
it prevents this distortion that causes DJs to
increase sound levels unnecessarily.

DJs should keep down midrange frequencies. This
helps lower risks of hearing loss, as well as
allowing patrons to hear each other talk so they
don't have to shout (which increases noise in
the club, which causes the DJ to turn the sound
up, etc.).

For more information about protecting your
hearing, check out the excellent resources at
<http//www.hearnet.com>

These suggestions were adapted from a
presentation given by Phil Coffin at the Harm
Reduction Conference, Miami, October 2000.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


5.  Movie Review: Traffic
     By J.T. for DanceSafe E-News

Steven Soderbergh's new movie Traffic is,
above all else, an indictment of the U.S.
Government's failed war on drugs.  Because
recent events in New Orleans suggest that
raves and nightclubs are about to become the
latest front in that war, anyone concerned for
the welfare of their scene should consider
"Traffic" an obligatory homework lesson.

While Soderbergh never comes out directly and
tells his audience that the drug war must end,
there are moments in the film which capture the
essence of the policy's absurdity as well as
anything that could be shouted from rooftops or
written on subway walls.  At one point, the 16
year-old blonde daughter of the nation's new
"drug czar" (Michael Douglas) looks out over the
faces of the adults in her 12-step meeting and
says, matter-of-factly: "I don't know if I'm an
alcoholic.  I don't really like to drink.  For
someone my age, its easier to get drugs than
alcohol."  Her words are borne out by surveys
in which high school age youth say marijuana is
far more available to them than alcohol.

There can be no doubt that Traffic is a stinging
indictment of our current policies, and of the
bureaucrats charged with enforcing them.  At one
point, Douglas' character asks his adivisers for
"new ideas" to combat the drug problem. The
silence that follows says more about the drug
war than all the canned speeches Barry McCaffrey
ever delivered. But the film, like most mass
media, can only look backwards.

Traffic's  three interlocking stories deal
primarily with prohibition's inability to
control the heroin and cocaine markets.
Ironically, the film's release comes just days
after the government's latest teen survey
showing that while use of these substances has
levelled off or dropped, the use of newer,
chemically-based substances such as ecstasy is
climbing fast. (Don't let anyone tell you that
the government isn't riding the crest of the
wave.)

The new drug war, against the newest demon drug,
was officially launched this week when President
elect Bush noted the rise in ecstasy use and
called the issue a top priority for his
administration.  Of course, there is nothing
that indicates that the government's enforcement
efforts will be any more effective than the ones
that have already made the U.S. the world's
leading incarcerator of its own citizens.  With
more than 2 million behind bars, about 25% of
those for non-violent drug offenses, cocaine and
heroin are cheaper, more pure and more easily
available than ever in cities and towns across
America. Like the none too fictional advisors
in the film, don't expect anyone in the Bush
administration to have any new ideas about how
to deal with this issue.

But Traffic is more than a social statement, it
is also a terrific movie. Sonderberg's use of
lighting and filters, of hand-held cameras and
extended takes make the movie aesthetically
interesting. His characters -- in a movie packed
with characters -- are also impressive, as he
resists the urge to create good guys and bad
guys. In the end, everyone who populates the
world of Traffic is complex and sympathetic in
their own way.

There are long stretches of the film, in fact,
when one is not certain exactly who is working
with whom.  And that's the point, it seems.
Everyone is stuck in a cesspool of corruption
and unintended consequences.  A conversation
between a stool pigeon and the agent protecting
him makes the point nicely.  The con informs the
fed that the only reason he was caught was that
someone in Mexico was trying to clear the way for
a rival cartel.  "So you see," he tells the agent,
"you're working for drug dealers too."

As the electronic dance community braces for the
next phase of America's longest war, a phase in
which it is becoming clear that their scene is
the primary target, Traffic bades us sit up and
take notice.  Because prohibition, the film
seems to say, is not a rational drug control
strategy.  And because war -- politically
attractive as it may be -- should not be a
domestic policy.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

6. "State of Ecstasy" Conference Registration
    Deadline Extended

Get it straight from the researchers' mouths!
Learn the facts about MDMA, or Ecstasy, at "The
State of Ecstasy: The Medicine, Science and
Culture of MDMA" conference on February 2, 2001,
in San Francisco, CA.

In this one-day conference, experts will convene
to discuss clinical and therapeutic uses,
scientific research into potential neurotoxicity,
and the culture of Ecstasy, including
recreational use and raves. The goal of the
conference is to formulate pragmatic
recommendations for advancing the state of
knowledge and health policy about MDMA.

Visit the website at
http://www.drugpolicy.org/ecstasy/
for all the information you need to register,
plan travel and book hotels near the San
Francisco venue.  Register now to guarantee
yourself a seat at what will prove to be an
exciting and valuable conference.  Continuing
education credits will be available to a
number of professions (pending).

The conference program will include the
following topics and speakers:

An Historical Overview of MDMA/Ecstasy
    Marsha Rosenbaum, Ph.D., The Lindesmith
      Center-Drug Policy Foundation
    George Greer, M.D. Heffter Research
      Institute
    Alexander Shulgin, Ph.D, and Ann Shulgin,
      Psychotherapist

Clinical/Therapeutic Uses of MDMA
    Rick Doblin, Ph.D., MAPS
    Charles Grob, M.D., UCLA
    Marcela Ot'alota, M.F.A., and Jose Carlos
     Buoso, Ph.D Candidate, Universidad Autonoma
     de Madrid
    Sue Stevens, MDMA therapy patient

The Science of MDMA
    Katherine Bonson, Ph.D., U.S. FDA
    Jessica Malberg, Ph.D., Yale University
    John Mendelson, M.D., UCSF
    Dave Nichols, Ph.D., Purdue University
    George Ricaurte, M.D., Ph.D, Johns Hopkins
      University School of Medicine

The Culture of Ecstasy
    John Cloud, Time Magazine
    Dustianne North, Ph.D. Candidate, UCLA
    Emanuel Sferios, DanceSafe

Future Directions in Research, Practice and
Policy
    All Panelists

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The contents of E-News are (c)2001 DanceSafe
   and Respective Authors unless otherwise noted.
Permission is hereby granted to freely reprint &
    reproduce DanceSafe E-News as long as proper
credit is given, including links where appropriate.
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Devil Girl wrote:

> What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As much as 
> I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers (15-17) at 
> parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor while 
> rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties.. lungs 
> didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects won't 
> be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to the 
> word "e-tard". :(

And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
the kid and also may be getting welfare.


> 
> Being an old fogey myself, I love age limits. Most 21 plus people don't act 
> so irresponsibly. Of course, there are exceptions, but the incidence of 
> crackheaded behavior is in direct porportion with age. ;)
> In Atlanta, most parties are either 18 and up or 21 and up. THAT IS A VERY 
> GOOD THING.
> 


Yea, but then there wouldn't be any customers to get addicted to drugs.


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Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Devil Girl wrote:
> =

> -->I have no idea how it didn't test positive, unless the particular pi=
ll =

> -->didn't have anything they were testing for i.e. they weren't testing=
 for

> -->extasy, just crack. WHo can say?
> =

> the placenta is a pseudo-organ that develops in the wombs of pregnant
> mothers.  it serves as the connection between mommy's blood stream and
> the umbilical chord.  this is the 'afterbirth' that so many native
> cultures view as a delicacy (ewww).  remember that Live song?  'her
> placenta falls to the floor'?

Yeah, Live is one of my favorite bands!  That's from their song "lightnin=
g
crashes".   Ok now I feel like I'm actually part of mw-raves, this is the=

first time I've said something completely offtopic ;-)
-Jeff

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    Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the fact
that you may be a whacko?

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As much
as
> > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers (15-17)
at
> > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor while
> > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties.. lungs
> > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
won't
> > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to
the
> > word "e-tard". :(
>
> And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
> not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
> the kid and also may be getting welfare.



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i saw live @ the tibetan freedom concert (shez, i've refered to that twice
in as many days!) and i was really unimpressed.  their songs are alright,
but i really thought their performance was tired and boring.

not that it was out of the ordinary for the event, the highlight for me
happened before noon and was cibo mato in the rain.

not to say that you can't like 'em, or trance for that matter :)

/me ducks,
-t

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Yeah, Live is one of my favorite bands!  That's from their song "lightning
crashes".   Ok now I feel like I'm actually part of mw-raves, this is the
first time I've said something completely offtopic ;-)

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Subject: [mw] I gots a question for jes and whoever else

Jes (or whoever) what is the link to your site, i have
a friend who wants to see a particular pic from wtw3,
please email me with the url to the site.

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From mw-raves-return-14924-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 17:56:09 2001
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i have to pretty much agree with keller - i don't have a big problem with
people destroying their lives, but i do have a problem with people doing it
in front of me, or wrecking places that i think are fun because of their bad
behavior, or costing me money because they act like idiots and make bad
decisions.

there should be options for these people, but one of the options that should
NOT be available if i had anything to say about it would be the freedom to
continue making poor decisions that affect the rest of us.

/me takes over the offical micah "i reply to everything" duties,
-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Murphy 
Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

    Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the fact
that you may be a whacko?


> > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As much
as
> > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers (15-17)
at
> > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor while
> > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties.. lungs
> > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
won't
> > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to
the
> > word "e-tard". :(
>
> And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
> not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
> the kid and also may be getting welfare.


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From mw-raves-return-14925-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 17:58:23 2001
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Subject: [mw] NNR: LIVE (was: age limits, kids at raves, etc.]


I've seen them 3 times, twice before they even had
a full length album out.  They were good back then
(both live, and in the studio).  I even got the chance
to meet them and hang out.  Nice guys...but everything 
they've done after "Mental Jewelry" doesn't appeal to 
me at all.  Oh well...

	- Joe




On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:51:45 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>i saw live @ the tibetan freedom concert (shez, i've refered to that twice
>in as many days!) and i was really unimpressed.  their songs are alright,
>but i really thought their performance was tired and boring.
>
>not that it was out of the ordinary for the event, the highlight for me
>happened before noon and was cibo mato in the rain.
>
>not to say that you can't like 'em, or trance for that matter :)
>
>/me ducks,
>-t
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Gazdacko 
>Subject: [mw] Re: [RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.]
>
>
>Yeah, Live is one of my favorite bands!  That's from their song "lightning
>crashes".   Ok now I feel like I'm actually part of mw-raves, this is the
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Subject: [mw] give me a break

Look it was late i was tired i can't hardly type as is!
is that a sin? if so kill me now.          



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From mw-raves-return-14927-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 18:34:18 2001
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I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
every weekend.  Now I can't remember the last party
that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
new.  I know it's not cause there is no more party
kids left out there but the population is definately
going down.  I wish I could go back to an underground
party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
talk to anybody there and you know they will share
stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
like people are just there for the drugs now days.  If
anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
for me any more.

~Jncoz~

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

> I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
> every weekend.  Now I can't remember the last party
> that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
> new.  I know it's not cause there is no more party
> kids left out there but the population is definately
> going down.  I wish I could go back to an underground
> party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
> talk to anybody there and you know they will share
> stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
> little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
> just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
> like people are just there for the drugs now days.  If
> anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
> over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
> please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
> for me any more.
> 
> ~Jncoz~
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From mw-raves-return-14929-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 18:41:02 2001
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In a message dated 1/22/01 1:34:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
jncoz1@yahoo.com writes:

<<  I wish I could go back to an underground
 party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
 talk to anybody there and you know they will share
 stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
 little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
 just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
 like people are just there for the drugs now days. >>


That statement is kinda contradicting itself.

"and the pills were always good"  -  "it seems like people are just there for 
the drugs now days"

Could it be that you met so many nice people and shared so many stories 
because the pills were good??


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From mw-raves-return-14930-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 18:43:08 2001
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And the Dj's never trainwrecked...  and I never had a bad trip.  
And the water was always free MAN!

those were the days


EDITH!!!!!!



tad

At 10:34 AM 1/22/01 -0800, Noel Meekma wrote:
>I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
>every weekend.  Now I can't remember the last party
>that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
>new.  I know it's not cause there is no more party
>kids left out there but the population is definately
>going down.  I wish I could go back to an underground
>party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
>talk to anybody there and you know they will share
>stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
>little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
>just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
>like people are just there for the drugs now days.  If
>anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
>over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
>please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
>for me any more.
>
>~Jncoz~
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    Everyone makes bad decisions, I have and you have and I'm sure mr keller
has. Some of our bad decisions may not have caused anyone else any problems
or cost the community money, but some people's do, and if the community has
to spend a little money to maybe help that mother turn her life around or
that kid to not be dumped in the trash, well that's money I'll gladly put
down.

my heart bleeds for texas,

Matt Murphy
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> i have to pretty much agree with keller - i don't have a big problem with
> people destroying their lives, but i do have a problem with people doing
it
> in front of me, or wrecking places that i think are fun because of their
bad
> behavior, or costing me money because they act like idiots and make bad
> decisions.
>
> there should be options for these people, but one of the options that
should
> NOT be available if i had anything to say about it would be the freedom to
> continue making poor decisions that affect the rest of us.
>
> /me takes over the offical micah "i reply to everything" duties,
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Murphy
> Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
>
>     Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the
fact
> that you may be a whacko?
>
>
> > > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As
much
> as
> > > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers
(15-17)
> at
> > > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor
while
> > > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties..
lungs
> > > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
> won't
> > > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to
> the
> > > word "e-tard". :(
> >
> > And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
> > not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
> > the kid and also may be getting welfare.
>
>
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From mw-raves-return-14932-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 18:44:28 2001
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The last party I went to was Interstellar Dreamfest for that very reason.

i feel ya, man.

Noble

remember when raves used to be original.. now every one is a carbon copy of
a carbon copy of a carbon copy of a carb..

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:34 AM
To: rave
Subject: [mw] back in the day


I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
every weekend.  Now I can't remember the last party
that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
new.  I know it's not cause there is no more party
kids left out there but the population is definately
going down.  I wish I could go back to an underground
party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
talk to anybody there and you know they will share
stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
like people are just there for the drugs now days.  If
anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
for me any more.

~Jncoz~

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its an ideological difference, and i'm ok with that - i think charity is
best served through churches and friends, and that there should be a small
secure net held by the government only to get users to the point where they
can go back to turning to friend and churches for support.

and if the church and your friends abandons you, well, that should tell you
something.

i'm telling ya, i'll trade you your kid for a pill! don't throw it away!
-t

----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

    Everyone makes bad decisions, I have and you have and I'm sure mr keller
has. Some of our bad decisions may not have caused anyone else any problems
or cost the community money, but some people's do, and if the community has
to spend a little money to maybe help that mother turn her life around or
that kid to not be dumped in the trash, well that's money I'll gladly put
down.

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>Could it be that you met so many nice people and shared so many stories 
>because the pills were good??
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>=P


You are wrong, obviously a bitter new skooler, the vibe back in '98 was
thicker than the rave snot. Had nothing to do with the pills....  the vibe
nowadays is non-existant and you have to take like 5 pills to feel
anything.  If you were a bitter old skooler you'd no these things.


=9

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Subject: [mw] of piss and beer.

Nobody was selling E at my party.  The few candyravers that entered threw the door came out crying close to a half hour later, permanently scarred by the business going on in a side room.  One observation from a raver: "The shit thats going on here is so fucked up, man, this is the kind of party the news really needs to see."

Of course, again I reiterate, that there were no piles of kids drenched in vaporub dry humping any teddy bears.  Although in contrast, there was a jewish kid shoving his nuts in someone's face to prove an point about ethnicity.  There was one Delta Nine, who insisted on having himself on film getting the piss beaten out of himself for an upcoming enhanced cd.  There was seven industrial strength garbage cans full of empty bottles of liquor.  And of course, after some issues with the sound and some slight kinks that needed to be ironed out, there was Dj Tron who was happy to play over an hour and 45 minutes to take over Loki's spot, who's computer had been destroyed in the aftermath.  There were the lights going on at around 2 and the kids still pounding their fists.  And there were more than a couple of pits that erupted during his set at well (some of which instigated by yours truly.)

But more importantly, something different happened.  I'm not saying it was good or bad, but all I am saying is that when I look back at our parties and the denizens that come out to them... Its something different.  Its not the typical b.s. the comfort zone created by big pants, binkies, and callous attitudes.  Its a union of kids admitting their boredom with everything, and getting together and revolted against it with chaos.  

No one got hurt, except maybe ross, who ended up bruised and battered by his own accord.  People stepped into our world for a moment in time... albeit at its most amped and destructive.  But really, what is more hardcore than letting it all hit the proverbial fan?  

I dunno.  All I know is that, when I look back at it... it makes me laugh a little... And somewhere from within my twisted sense of humour... I think I got the joke.

I hope you all did too.

thank you to all who came out and paid or didn't pay... either way you made Brother In Metal quite as they say in xenia, ohio...

tits.

entro

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 I have to say, the best parties I have been to have been 18+ and had excellent security. For example, Ultraworld in Baltimore always cards everyone at the door, has security guards that help people who are bugging out, and only charges $1 for water, just like it should be...

I'm of the opinion that younger ravers often don't know how to conduct themselves in an environment where drugs and alcohol are present, and often are the ones that end up OD'ing/getting into bad shit. Maybe that's why all the parties I go to now are 21+.

erikka


  Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote: 
The last party I went to was Interstellar Dreamfest for that very reason.

i feel ya, man.

Noble

remember when raves used to be original.. now every one is a carbon copy of
a carbon copy of a carbon copy of a carb..

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I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
every weekend. Now I can't remember the last party
that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
new. I know it's not cause there is no more party
kids left out there but the population is definately
going down. I wish I could go back to an underground
party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
talk to anybody there and you know they will share
stories, and the pills were always good. I think the
little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
like people are just there for the drugs now days. If
anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
for me any more.

~Jncoz~

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From mw-raves-return-14937-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 18:53:27 2001
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98?

damn.. i started going to parties at the beginning of 99...

guess I missed out on that *vibe* by a year..


damn.

-bitter old schooler


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<< You are wrong, obviously a bitter new skooler, the vibe back in '98 was
 thicker than the rave snot. Had nothing to do with the pills....  the vibe
 nowadays is non-existant and you have to take like 5 pills to feel
 anything.  If you were a bitter old skooler you'd no these things.
 
 
 =9
 
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> welcome to MW Rave's and see just what kind of
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angst?

oh we're *ALL* about angst here.

shutting up.
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> Eliot - The guy with glowsticks stuck in his mohawk

don't tell me you were the guy with the green
mowhawk!!

if so, we took a picture of you, and you are going to
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nah, they saw you coming and hid the vibe.

under a bushel,
-t

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98?
damn.. i started going to parties at the beginning of 99...
guess I missed out on that *vibe* by a year..

damn.
-bitter old schooler

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Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down early,
no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.

If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar outback.


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there's an interstellar outback steakhouse here in town, is security tight?
do they allow you to bring in vicks?

-t

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Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down early,
no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.

If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar outback.

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> hyeah, reply to the much more intelligent threads
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why not? after all, you did.

> ...can you say
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> crack babies!!

no, but i can say "test tube crack baby"
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i think today's definition of "vibe" is a batch of real pills going
around.
=P


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--- Candice Rustong <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com> wrote:
> no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people that
> are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit

and trust me, the rest of us who are old enough to
drive ourselves rather than have our parents drop us
off at "the rave" are laughing at you.

who the hell looks up to a twelve year old?
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/me remembers seeing this weird child/parent drama played out before some
madison party last fall - some girl was screaming and struggling to get free
of her mom who was attempting to forceably get her daughter back in their
minvan.  

"MOM! I WANT TO RAVE!" - that's a tshirt i think.

muahahah,
-t

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--- Candice Rustong <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com> wrote:
> no i aint too young. see, in az we gotz people that
> are like 12 goin to raves. aint nuttin wrong wit

and trust me, the rest of us who are old enough to
drive ourselves rather than have our parents drop us
off at "the rave" are laughing at you.

who the hell looks up to a twelve year old?

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> At 05:54 PM 2001-01-21, Candice Rustong wrote:
> >u just be stereo-typing and that aint right yo.

yeah, yo! 

like, totally buggin, yo
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No, vicks/glowsticks/bottled water/ or pacifiers, but they do sell all of
teh above inside.


tad

At 01:06 PM 1/22/01 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:
>there's an interstellar outback steakhouse here in town, is security tight?
>do they allow you to bring in vicks?
>
>-t
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>Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down early,
>no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.
>
>If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar outback.
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From mw-raves-return-14949-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 19:20:00 2001
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Since are feeling nostalgiac, what was everyone's favorite party and why?

Mine was 420 in Cleveland, either '95 or '96 (can't remember the year
exactly) because the location was dope - a giant warehouse that looked
pre-historic on the waterfront and I swear they sprayed some bouncy material
on the floor, although it could have been my imagination (could've just been
the dust), everyone getting together at 4:20 AM for some you know what...
and of course Dub Tribe played as the sun came up. Losing my wallet, finding
$20 on the floor right when i started to get thirsty .... and then later
someone mailed my wallet to me, money and all. I drove from Tennessee to
attend this party and afterward I had the misconception that all parties in
the mid-west were this good.

If anyone remembers this party, I'd like to hear your perception of it.

onelove.
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From mw-raves-return-14950-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 19:29:41 2001
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I wanted to thank all of you for the great time I had at WIshing on a 
Star in Dayton.  This was my first midwest experience since Phatphest 
(the horror! lol) and I couldn't feel better about things.  It was 
def rocking.  I noticed other differences between midwest events and 
things here in Pittsburgh.  You guys def like your break circles. 
But I noticed a lot less people sitting on the dancefloor so you guys 
all get props for that.  In the end its all the same a Rave is what 
you make of it and you can't rely upon anyone but yourself for the 
real vibe and most of all DANCE!

I hope those of you went enjoyed my visuals, it was so much fun! 
Major props to all involved including Wishing Well Productions 
(Brandon you rock!)

Shout outs to Gabe and Matt Murphy (your mw Visuals guy!)

Thanks again and plur,

VJ (Video Jockey)  Jbrick

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:47:55 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>its an ideological difference, and i'm ok with that - i think charity is
>best served through churches and friends, and that there should be a small
>secure net held by the government only to get users to the point where they
>can go back to turning to friend and churches for support.

>and if the church and your friends abandons you, well, that should tell you
>something.

Not everyone goes to church and not everyone has rich
or well to do friends or relatives.  Then what do these people do ?

I'm not calling out for 100% socialism or anything,
but I think there should be a balance.  I think the
federal government should provide health care,
and the interstate system.  State government
can provide education (that way there is still
choice - want something different, move to a
different state) and the local tax supported
systems such as garbage collection, sewers,
etc. and beyond that, the government should
get the fuck out of our lives for the most part
(laws against murder and stealing and such
are ok, but laws where there is no true victim
are wrong).  Government can be good and
is needed, but 100% of any "ism" of govt.
isn't going to work.  They all have their +/-

	- Joe 


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--- Candice Rustong <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com> wrote:
> dont worry pplz. im'ma 98% drug free raver <---dont
> ask

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:03:19 -0600, Tad wrote:

>Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down early,
>no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.
>
>If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar outback.
>

Hahaha...I think I detect some sarcasm here.
(at least I hope...seeing as all of the above were present there).

It WAS a great party though...not because any of those things
were not present, but because people pulled together to have
a great time despite all of the things that went wrong.

	- Joe


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--- Candice Rustong <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i dont get it. im
> ultimitly confused!

forREAL yo werd, dawg!



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> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> how a person can be 98% 
> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> am right in saying that 
> drug use is a yes or no situation. 

prescription. 



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i have a friend who's mom goes into the inner city (dica's neighborhood, to
be precise!) and delivers donated goods and preaches god stuff to them.
they dont' have to go to church to get the stuff, but they do have to listen
to her.  i don't think its a bad system.

i'm also not saying that someone needs to look to churches of a christian
god to receive benefits, heh, there's no reason the church of satan couldn't
provide charitable servies to people that will listen to their schpeal.

and as far as rich friends go, i guess i'm not talking about going to a
friend and asking them to buy you a car, but i know if a friend needed
something to eat and was really hard up i wouldn't have any problem lending
a few bucks their way.

there is no bank of tony,
-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Dynamic Groove 
Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.


On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:47:55 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>its an ideological difference, and i'm ok with that - i think charity is
>best served through churches and friends, and that there should be a small
>secure net held by the government only to get users to the point where they
>can go back to turning to friend and churches for support.

>and if the church and your friends abandons you, well, that should tell you
>something.

Not everyone goes to church and not everyone has rich
or well to do friends or relatives.  Then what do these people do ?

I'm not calling out for 100% socialism or anything,
but I think there should be a balance.  I think the
federal government should provide health care,
and the interstate system.  State government
can provide education (that way there is still
choice - want something different, move to a
different state) and the local tax supported
systems such as garbage collection, sewers,
etc. and beyond that, the government should
get the fuck out of our lives for the most part
(laws against murder and stealing and such
are ok, but laws where there is no true victim
are wrong).  Government can be good and
is needed, but 100% of any "ism" of govt.
isn't going to work.  They all have their +/-

	- Joe 


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um... so if its someone else's prescription does that qualify as 70%?

your own presecription 98%?

what about non-prescription, yet readily available items like gasoline?
would that be 75%?
What about sudafed?

shit... I have a court date coming... I need to pin down exactly how drug
free I have been.

Someone HELP ME!!!!



y0!


tad

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>> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
>> how a person can be 98% 
>> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
>> am right in saying that 
>> drug use is a yes or no situation. 
>
>prescription. 
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I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal drug.

Caffiene is a drug
Nicotine is a drug
Cough Syrup is a drug
Chocolate is a drug
Fried Chicken is a drug
Alcohol is a drug
Marijuana is a drug
Oxygen is a drug
Apathy is a drug
TV is a drug
You are a drug

Noble

If DMT is found naturally in the brain and it is a controlled substance,
that must mean we are all breaking the law all the time.

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> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> how a person can be 98% 
> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> am right in saying that 
> drug use is a yes or no situation. 

prescription. 



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i think you may have made candice's brain explode.

there's candy kid all over the carpeting,
-t

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I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal drug.

Caffiene is a drug
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Cough Syrup is a drug
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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:35:56PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
> I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal drug.
> 
> Caffiene is a drug
> Nicotine is a drug
> Cough Syrup is a drug
> Chocolate is a drug
> Fried Chicken is a drug
> Alcohol is a drug
> Marijuana is a drug
> Oxygen is a drug
> Apathy is a drug
> TV is a drug
> You are a drug

You are a tool.

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<< Since are feeling nostalgiac, what was everyone's favorite party and why?
  >>

after going to 423849234923 parties and seeing 23804230483900 amazing djs.... 
I would have to say.....


konfused. (originally richie's event... kompress) 

-because I met so many *wonderful* people who have made a huge impact on my 
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He said tool.


tad

At 01:53 PM 1/22/01 -0600, atomly wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:35:56PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
>> I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal drug.
>> 
>> Caffiene is a drug
>> Nicotine is a drug
>> Cough Syrup is a drug
>> Chocolate is a drug
>> Fried Chicken is a drug
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>> TV is a drug
>> You are a drug
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> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:35:56PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
> > I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal drug.
> > 
> > Caffiene is a drug
> > Nicotine is a drug
> > Cough Syrup is a drug
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> > Fried Chicken is a drug
> > Alcohol is a drug
> > Marijuana is a drug
> > Oxygen is a drug
> > Apathy is a drug
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> > You are a drug
> 
> You are a tool.

tools are a drug.


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chapstick is a drug.

In a message dated 1/22/01 2:49:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal drug.
 
 Caffiene is a drug
 Nicotine is a drug
 Cough Syrup is a drug
 Chocolate is a drug
 Fried Chicken is a drug
 Alcohol is a drug
 Marijuana is a drug
 Oxygen is a drug
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 TV is a drug
 You are a drug
 
 Noble
 
 If DMT is found naturally in the brain and it is a controlled substance,
 that must mean we are all breaking the law all the time. >>

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> I dunno.  All I know is that, when I look back at
> it... it makes me laugh a little... And somewhere
> from within my twisted sense of humour... I think I
> got the joke.
> 
> I hope you all did too.

*nod*

good game.

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> On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 01:35:56PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
> > I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think you mean illegal
drug.
> > 
> > Caffiene is a drug
> > Nicotine is a drug
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> > Fried Chicken is a drug
> > Alcohol is a drug
> > Marijuana is a drug
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> > TV is a drug
> > You are a drug
> 
> You are a tool.

tools are a drug.

and drugs are a tool....


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hahaha, i love watching cultural/govermental brainwashing in full effect.=
 =

isn't it interesting how legions of powerful government-approved drugs ar=
e
considered acceptable, but the relatively tiny number of "recreational" d=
rugs
are demonized?  it's fascinating to observe when most of America (especia=
lly
the kids) are using prescription drugs, yet federal propaganda continues =
to
hold up "a drug-free america" as the ideal for our society.  then again, =
we've
managed to uphold the illusion that alcohol isn't a *drug* this long.... =
i'm
sure there's plenty of room for vicodin, ritalin, oxycodone, percoset,
dexedrine, adarol, etc. to fit right in with our old-school standbys of
caffeine and nicotene.  =


ha.  i don't buy that crap that "recreational" drugs are any less useful,=

worthwhile, or dangerous than "therapeutic" drugs.  you want drug-free?! =
 ---
y'all ain't ready for drug-free.

peace,
catnap




pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> how a person can be 98% =

> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> am right in saying that =

> drug use is a yes or no situation. =


prescription. =




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> If anyone remembers this party, I'd like to hear
> your perception of it.

i remember that this was the first party i didn't go
to.

meaning...i woke up saturday morning all stressed
because i was trying to find a ride, figure out what
to wear, and at some point i got so disgusted with the
whole thing because i was getting *stressed* about
having fun. so i threw in the towel, grabbed my weed
and my dugout and treked down to mirror lake (on osu
campus) and hung out with the hippies. discovered some
new music too.

yep. it was fun =]


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    My favorite has to be Advanced Tricknology, here in Mpls, the summer of
1998. (has it been so short a time? it seems like ages ago) Big ol' nasty
warehouse with half the roof gone and crappy messed up floor, the second
room was so foggy and sweaty you couldn't see the DJ, but the main room had
plenty of space. I went with like 10 friends at a time when most of us
didn't know that "all-hardcore party" made it any different than any other
party, but I was happy because GabberGirl spun a track with a ministry
sample in it. =]

Matt Murphy
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pretty simple here - when dealing with the law, you are ALWAYS drug-free
unless proven otherwise.  =


if you're going to be tested, you're still not guilty till the test finds=

otherwise.  and then you can dispute that, too.  in the meantime, clean o=
ut
your system and shave your head (protects against hair tests).

look, the government isn't going to play fair, they're out to get you.  n=
ever
willingly give them any way to get their claws into you, because some fuc=
ked
up drug laws that could put you in prison for years mean a whole lot more=
 to
them than your life does.  =


peace,
sim*n



Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
um... so if its someone else's prescription does that qualify as 70%?

your own presecription 98%?

what about non-prescription, yet readily available items like gasoline?
would that be 75%?
What about sudafed?

shit... I have a court date coming... I need to pin down exactly how drug=

free I have been.

Someone HELP ME!!!!



y0!


tad

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>
>> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
>> how a person can be 98% =

>> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
>> am right in saying that =

>> drug use is a yes or no situation. =

>
>prescription. =

>
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--- simon kellman <mechaproductions@usa.net> wrote:
> hahaha, i love watching cultural/govermental
> brainwashing in full effect. 

it's even more fun to watch how angry your parents get
when you tell them they're druggies. 

of course, i guess it depends on the individual
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nevermind.
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>===== Original Message From "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net> =====
>    My favorite has to be Advanced Tricknology, here in Mpls, the summer of
>1998. (has it been so short a time? it seems like ages ago) Big ol' nasty
>warehouse with half the roof gone and crappy messed up floor,

That party was really fucking cool, I remember that evening vividly..  but 
wasn't that in July of 97?  (obviously not *that* vividly, I guess..)

-Jen

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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:10:02PM -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:
>     My favorite has to be Advanced Tricknology, here in Mpls, the summer of
> 1998. (has it been so short a time? it seems like ages ago) Big ol' nasty
> warehouse with half the roof gone and crappy messed up floor, the second
> room was so foggy and sweaty you couldn't see the DJ, but the main room had
> plenty of space. I went with like 10 friends at a time when most of us
> didn't know that "all-hardcore party" made it any different than any other
> party, but I was happy because GabberGirl spun a track with a ministry
> sample in it. =]

Yea, that party was definitely a jam- top five if not my favorite ever.
Substance P rocked it in the main room, as did Delta 9, Arjay, Madkid,
etc...  The second room was hilariously shoddy (huge whole in the roof
that I didn't notice until about 6AM when the sun started coming
through) and featured Fishead and Gabber Girl (the first time I ever saw
fishead, in fact) and it rocked out.

That had to be the dirtiest warehouse I've ever been in, by the way.
The entirety of the floor was covered with like soot and motor oil- it
was awesome.

Of course that was also the party where they ran out of water and I had
to buy a fucking gallon of that H2Oh! shit...  Who the hell drinks
carbonated water?  

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 Yeah, it's also pretty funny that someone else can tell you what to put in
your own body and if you don't listen to them, you could be imprisoned or
even be killed. Hell, the same thing can happen even if you do listen to
them and follow every law. You could be shot in your own house by some DEA
task force that has the wrong address or if you have a disease you could
die because someone told you that this one drug, the only one that allowed
you to keep food down, was bad for you.
 You could be falsely accused by someone else of dealing these taboo
substances and then with no evidence imprisoned for a long time. What's
really funny is that the same people telling you not to do these substances
are bringing them into the country and supplying the black market on the
street. They are making money from the judicial system, the black market,
and the prison system. Then they have the public thinking ritalin, prozac,
and rogaine are necessaries in our daily lives if we want to be good little
consumers.

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhehehehehehehehehhohohohoho

Now, that's funny!!

Laughing all the way to the grave..
Noble

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hahaha, i love watching cultural/govermental brainwashing in full effect. 
isn't it interesting how legions of powerful government-approved drugs are
considered acceptable, but the relatively tiny number of "recreational"
drugs
are demonized?  it's fascinating to observe when most of America (especially
the kids) are using prescription drugs, yet federal propaganda continues to
hold up "a drug-free america" as the ideal for our society.  then again,
we've
managed to uphold the illusion that alcohol isn't a *drug* this long.... i'm
sure there's plenty of room for vicodin, ritalin, oxycodone, percoset,
dexedrine, adarol, etc. to fit right in with our old-school standbys of
caffeine and nicotene.  

ha.  i don't buy that crap that "recreational" drugs are any less useful,
worthwhile, or dangerous than "therapeutic" drugs.  you want drug-free?!
---
y'all ain't ready for drug-free.

peace,
catnap




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> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> how a person can be 98% 
> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> am right in saying that 
> drug use is a yes or no situation. 

prescription. 



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/me raises hand.

i'm a huge caffeine addict, when i'm trying to get off the stuff the little
bubbles trick my mind into thinking there's more there than just water.

i swear i'm not a pussy,
-t

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Of course that was also the party where they ran out of water and I had
to buy a fucking gallon of that H2Oh! shit...  Who the hell drinks
carbonated water?  

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> as, for the first time in a generation,
> government forces have essentially declared war
> on an entire youth culture. The outcome of this
> case carries serious implications, not only for
> the rave community, but for young people
> everywhere.  

shut us down, wipe us out, cleanse the floors, and
when they think they've got us all under control,
they'll go back to being fat white politicians, and
we'll get started again.

it truly sucks for those who have to take the fall for
the actions of ignorant kids who can't seem to
appreciate the meaning of respect, moderation, or
common sense, but i'm tired of watching this shit go
on. something has to happen, and it's quite obvious we
can't police our own scene anymore.

whether or not an activity is deemed "legal" by the
government has no bearing whatsoever on whether i
choose to do it or not. shouldn't for you either.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:48:06 -0600, Noble Long wrote:


>tools are a drug.
>
>and drugs are a tool....


Whoops. There I go again,
posting before I read all the messages.

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> That party was really fucking cool, I remember that evening vividly..  but
> wasn't that in July of 97?  (obviously not *that* vividly, I guess..)

    I was thinking that too, but then I did some basic math: Trick 4 =
2000 - 2 = 1998. Also I knew it was after my first year of college. But yes,
it does seem like so much longer ago...

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.  I noticed other differences between midwest events and
> things here in Pittsburgh.  You guys def like your break circles.

    Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but t'ain't no break
circles 'round here! =]

> But I noticed a lot less people sitting on the dancefloor so you guys
> all get props for that.  In the end its all the same a Rave is what
> you make of it and you can't rely upon anyone but yourself for the
> real vibe and most of all DANCE!

    Agreed. I feel for you guys though if what we have is considered good.
=]

> I hope those of you went enjoyed my visuals, it was so much fun!
> Major props to all involved including Wishing Well Productions
> (Brandon you rock!)
>
> Shout outs to Gabe and Matt Murphy (your mw Visuals guy!)

    Thankfully I'm not the only one doing visuals around here, we're blessed
with a decent number of visual crews like higher visions, brainfarm, light
fantastik, *OVT*, and many more I'm sure, who's the big crew down in Ohio?
Project 9?

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dammit, i loved that stuff!  i can't find it anywhere in Ohio tho.  i lov=
e
caffeine, but caffiene makes my tummy hurt.  yes, i too am a pussy.  now =
where
can i get some caffinated water!!!!!

catnap


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/me raises hand.

i'm a huge caffeine addict, when i'm trying to get off the stuff the litt=
le
bubbles trick my mind into thinking there's more there than just water.

i swear i'm not a pussy,
-t

-----Original Message-----
From: atomly =

Subject: Re: [mw] favorite parties

Of course that was also the party where they ran out of water and I had
to buy a fucking gallon of that H2Oh! shit...  Who the hell drinks
carbonated water?  =


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From mw-raves-return-14981-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 20:48:31 2001
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http://www.waterjoe.com

Caffiene fucks up my stomache too. I love my coffee, but not on an empty
stomache.

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dammit, i loved that stuff!  i can't find it anywhere in Ohio tho.  i love
caffeine, but caffiene makes my tummy hurt.  yes, i too am a pussy.  now
where
can i get some caffinated water!!!!!

catnap


Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
/me raises hand.

i'm a huge caffeine addict, when i'm trying to get off the stuff the little
bubbles trick my mind into thinking there's more there than just water.

i swear i'm not a pussy,
-t

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Of course that was also the party where they ran out of water and I had
to buy a fucking gallon of that H2Oh! shit...  Who the hell drinks
carbonated water?  

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From mw-raves-return-14982-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 20:49:05 2001
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yeeeaaaah!  testify!  preach on brotha man   ;)

peace,
tha 'nap


Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
 Yeah, it's also pretty funny that someone else can tell you what to put =
in
your own body and if you don't listen to them, you could be imprisoned or=

even be killed. Hell, the same thing can happen even if you do listen to
them and follow every law. You could be shot in your own house by some DE=
A
task force that has the wrong address or if you have a disease you could
die because someone told you that this one drug, the only one that allowe=
d
you to keep food down, was bad for you.
 You could be falsely accused by someone else of dealing these taboo
substances and then with no evidence imprisoned for a long time. What's
really funny is that the same people telling you not to do these substanc=
es
are bringing them into the country and supplying the black market on the
street. They are making money from the judicial system, the black market,=

and the prison system. Then they have the public thinking ritalin, prozac=
,
and rogaine are necessaries in our daily lives if we want to be good litt=
le
consumers.

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhehehehehehehehehhohohohoho

Now, that's funny!!

Laughing all the way to the grave..
Noble

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hahaha, i love watching cultural/govermental brainwashing in full effect.=
 =

isn't it interesting how legions of powerful government-approved drugs ar=
e
considered acceptable, but the relatively tiny number of "recreational"
drugs
are demonized?  it's fascinating to observe when most of America (especia=
lly
the kids) are using prescription drugs, yet federal propaganda continues =
to
hold up "a drug-free america" as the ideal for our society.  then again,
we've
managed to uphold the illusion that alcohol isn't a *drug* this long.... =
i'm
sure there's plenty of room for vicodin, ritalin, oxycodone, percoset,
dexedrine, adarol, etc. to fit right in with our old-school standbys of
caffeine and nicotene.  =


ha.  i don't buy that crap that "recreational" drugs are any less useful,=

worthwhile, or dangerous than "therapeutic" drugs.  you want drug-free?!
---
y'all ain't ready for drug-free.

peace,
catnap




pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> how a person can be 98% =

> drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> am right in saying that =

> drug use is a yes or no situation. =


prescription. =




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On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:31:51PM -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:
> > That party was really fucking cool, I remember that evening vividly..  but
> > wasn't that in July of 97?  (obviously not *that* vividly, I guess..)
> 
>     I was thinking that too, but then I did some basic math: Trick 4 =
> 2000 - 2 = 1998. Also I knew it was after my first year of college. But yes,
> it does seem like so much longer ago...

Yea, I didn't live in Minneapolis yet- I was down to take my Spanish
proficiency test at the U of M.  It was mos def 98.

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>     Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but t'ain't no break
> circles 'round here! =]

Those were really popular about a year ago or so in Minneapolis.  I
remember a few huge ones, like at Love and such.

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i'd definetly have to say even further 96' & sickness/recovery are my top 
two.  i wasn't jaded or bitter yet.  i thought i was witnessing truth and 
sincere beauty on both occasions.  very few memories remain so pure anymore. 
  not to mention the line-up.
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Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

Yes and I have come to the conclusion I must be.  Usually the minorty is
called wacko, insane, etc..  Seeing all the Socialist down in Florida on
CSPAN today (replay from Sat.) made me sick.  All they want is these
programs paid for curtosy of me.  I have over $20K in loans due and don't
get a dime for school even though I am on my own.  Sickening.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
>     Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the fact
> that you may be a whacko?
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
> > > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As much
> as
> > > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers (15-17)
> at
> > > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor while
> > > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties.. lungs
> > > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
> won't
> > > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to
> the
> > > word "e-tard". :(
> >
> > And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
> > not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
> > the kid and also may be getting welfare.
> 
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What?  I don't deserve ANYONEs money to pay for my 10s of thousands in HIV
treatment if I screw around without protection.  It's as simple as that.
The problem is once you give to a few, others want it as well.  Older
people are living longer and longer and this means the illegal pyrimid
scheam known as social security will eventually dry up.  This country
needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and more
people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
protect them. 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
>     Everyone makes bad decisions, I have and you have and I'm sure mr keller
> has. Some of our bad decisions may not have caused anyone else any problems
> or cost the community money, but some people's do, and if the community has
> to spend a little money to maybe help that mother turn her life around or
> that kid to not be dumped in the trash, well that's money I'll gladly put
> down.
> 
> my heart bleeds for texas,
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
> > i have to pretty much agree with keller - i don't have a big problem with
> > people destroying their lives, but i do have a problem with people doing
> it
> > in front of me, or wrecking places that i think are fun because of their
> bad
> > behavior, or costing me money because they act like idiots and make bad
> > decisions.
> >
> > there should be options for these people, but one of the options that
> should
> > NOT be available if i had anything to say about it would be the freedom to
> > continue making poor decisions that affect the rest of us.
> >
> > /me takes over the offical micah "i reply to everything" duties,
> > -t
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Murphy
> > Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> >
> >     Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the
> fact
> > that you may be a whacko?
> >
> >
> > > > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As
> much
> > as
> > > > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers
> (15-17)
> > at
> > > > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor
> while
> > > > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties..
> lungs
> > > > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
> > won't
> > > > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to
> > the
> > > > word "e-tard". :(
> > >
> > > And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
> > > not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
> > > the kid and also may be getting welfare.
> >
> >
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Welfare used to be 'relief'.  Relief has now become welfare and the queens
scream if ANY laws are passed making it more difficult to get.  Those who
don't want it usually get off, but the others are lazy and worthless.
Watching Ricky Lake etc.  Time for them to get off the couch and get a
J-O-B.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> its an ideological difference, and i'm ok with that - i think charity is
> best served through churches and friends, and that there should be a small
> secure net held by the government only to get users to the point where they
> can go back to turning to friend and churches for support.
> 
> and if the church and your friends abandons you, well, that should tell you
> something.
> 
> i'm telling ya, i'll trade you your kid for a pill! don't throw it away!
> -t
> 
> ----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Murphy 
> Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> 
>     Everyone makes bad decisions, I have and you have and I'm sure mr keller
> has. Some of our bad decisions may not have caused anyone else any problems
> or cost the community money, but some people's do, and if the community has
> to spend a little money to maybe help that mother turn her life around or
> that kid to not be dumped in the trash, well that's money I'll gladly put
> down.
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Ask yourself this? If you could opt out of all government programs (SS,
Medicare, Welfare, Federal Income Tax etc.) and not pay anything in or
expect anything from the federal government (not talking about local
government services), would you do it? I would.

Noble

"you can't kill the beast while sucking on it's teat...."

-----Original Message-----
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Yes and I have come to the conclusion I must be.  Usually the minorty is
called wacko, insane, etc..  Seeing all the Socialist down in Florida on
CSPAN today (replay from Sat.) made me sick.  All they want is these
programs paid for curtosy of me.  I have over $20K in loans due and don't
get a dime for school even though I am on my own.  Sickening.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
>     Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the
fact
> that you may be a whacko?
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
> > > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As
much
> as
> > > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers
(15-17)
> at
> > > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor
while
> > > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties..
lungs
> > > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
> won't
> > > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning to
> the
> > > word "e-tard". :(
> >
> > And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this (maybe
> > not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds for
> > the kid and also may be getting welfare.
> 
> 
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> I'm not calling out for 100% socialism or anything,
> but I think there should be a balance.  I think the
> federal government should provide health care,
> and the interstate system.

Government shouldn't provide health care.  The problem with the US is that
you can sue sue sue.  Who is to say the government will not be forced to
pay for the most exspensive treatments?  Why should my tax dollars go to
people who OD?  Have abortions?  Get my point?  Some people live healthy
lives and they will get screwed paying for others who don't and that is
what I am against.

> State government
> can provide education (that way there is still
> choice - want something different, move to a
> different state) and the local tax supported
> systems such as garbage collection, sewers,
> etc. and beyond that, the government should
> get the fuck out of our lives for the most part
> (laws against murder and stealing and such
> are ok, but laws where there is no true victim
> are wrong).

So it's not illegal to take others money by threat of force and jail time?

> Government can be good and
> is needed, but 100% of any "ism" of govt.
> isn't going to work.  They all have their +/-
 
Agreed, but it should be limited to what benifits ALL.  Not a select few
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oh yeah, i did that once.  BAD idea.  insanity runs on my mom's side of t=
he
family (got a bunch of crazies) and she went off on me!!!
she's been on some kind of stabilizers for years and i didn't know.  i go=
t
into that argument and ended up learning a lot...

i did manage to have a pretty honest convo with my mom about drugs just t=
he
other day tho.... right after me and my cousin got both of our families (=
and
ourselves) tossed out of a bar mitzvah for smokin weed.
oooooooops.  ;P

peace,
sim*n

pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- simon kellman <mechaproductions@usa.net> wrote:
> hahaha, i love watching cultural/govermental
> brainwashing in full effect. =


it's even more fun to watch how angry your parents get
when you tell them they're druggies. =


of course, i guess it depends on the individual
reaction of your parents.

nevermind.
pixie


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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> and as far as rich friends go, i guess i'm not talking about going to a
> friend and asking them to buy you a car, but i know if a friend needed
> something to eat and was really hard up i wouldn't have any problem lending
> a few bucks their way.

This is where the problem lies, 'rich'.  So many kids are not watched
cause both mommy and daddy what to drive exspensive SUVs, etc.  Dr. Laura
is right on this one, even though I really think she is a hypocrite.  I
am not saying every kid with a stay at home parent will be good per se,
but I know when an adult is around it could help keep things from getting
out of hand (getting knocked up cause bf comes over after school all the
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"Those who would trade freedom for safety (or convenience) deserve neither
freedom nor safety (convenience)."  - Ben Franklin

Universal Health Care is not a right. Rights do not come from government,
the only rights you have come from your creator. They are life, death, and
free will.


-----Original Message-----
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What?  I don't deserve ANYONEs money to pay for my 10s of thousands in HIV
treatment if I screw around without protection.  It's as simple as that.
The problem is once you give to a few, others want it as well.  Older
people are living longer and longer and this means the illegal pyrimid
scheam known as social security will eventually dry up.  This country
needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and more
people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
protect them. 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
>     Everyone makes bad decisions, I have and you have and I'm sure mr
keller
> has. Some of our bad decisions may not have caused anyone else any
problems
> or cost the community money, but some people's do, and if the community
has
> to spend a little money to maybe help that mother turn her life around or
> that kid to not be dumped in the trash, well that's money I'll gladly put
> down.
> 
> my heart bleeds for texas,
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
> > i have to pretty much agree with keller - i don't have a big problem
with
> > people destroying their lives, but i do have a problem with people doing
> it
> > in front of me, or wrecking places that i think are fun because of their
> bad
> > behavior, or costing me money because they act like idiots and make bad
> > decisions.
> >
> > there should be options for these people, but one of the options that
> should
> > NOT be available if i had anything to say about it would be the freedom
to
> > continue making poor decisions that affect the rest of us.
> >
> > /me takes over the offical micah "i reply to everything" duties,
> > -t
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Murphy
> > Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> >
> >     Man, this kid just doesn't stop, mr keller have you considered the
> fact
> > that you may be a whacko?
> >
> >
> > > > What's worse than a 14 year old at a party twitching in a corner?As
> much
> > as
> > > > I *hate* seeing that sort of thing, I've seen pregnant teenagers
> (15-17)
> > at
> > > > parties doing mass amounts of drugs. One girl even went into labor
> while
> > > > rolling! Her child ended up with some developmental difficulties..
> lungs
> > > > didn't function properly, low birth weight, etc. Most of the effects
> > won't
> > > > be known until later. What's sad is this gives a whole new meaning
to
> > the
> > > > word "e-tard". :(
> > >
> > > And yet another reason to start the revolution.  People like this
(maybe
> > > not this girl) have steal our tax dollars to cover the cost of meds
for
> > > the kid and also may be getting welfare.
> >
> >
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Subject: [mw] favorite parties


I think my favorite party was Interstellar Outback- the first one. Even 
though there was mass chaos, I still had the absolute greatest time.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:
> it truly sucks for those who have to take the fall for
> the actions of ignorant kids who can't seem to

what truly sucks is that this happens in America.


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From mw-raves-return-14996-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 21:18:25 2001
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> >     Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but t'ain't no break
> > circles 'round here! =]
>
> Those were really popular about a year ago or so in Minneapolis.  I
> remember a few huge ones, like at Love and such.

    Yeah, I was glad to see those go, although I think the reason they left
has more to do with shrinking venues and increasing crowds, such that it's
hard to dance anyway, which kinda sucks, but whatever. I think they actually
advertise breaking crews who are going to be at a party in chicago... that's
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From mw-raves-return-14997-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 21:20:13 2001
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Isn't this what America is all about these days - "It's not my fault!"

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:
> it truly sucks for those who have to take the fall for
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what truly sucks is that this happens in America.


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> This country
> needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and more
> people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
> protect them.

    What the hell does moving to cities have anything to do with it??? Lemme
guess, you live in the country? (I live in Minneapolis proper)

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From mw-raves-return-14999-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 21:27:47 2001
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DAMMIT! STAY AWAY FROM VITAMIN R!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> 
> 
> /me snorts a big line of a ritalin/baking soda cocktail.
> 
> ....l0r4sauce
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From mw-raves-return-15000-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 21:41:03 2001
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Maybe, he's saying it's easier to be self-sufficient - grow your own food,
make your own clothes, roll your own cigars, etc. in the country, which I
could agree with, although it's not impossible to do this in cities. Living
in a studio flat on the 23rd floor might hamper things a bit.

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> This country
> needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and more
> people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
> protect them.

    What the hell does moving to cities have anything to do with it??? Lemme
guess, you live in the country? (I live in Minneapolis proper)

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From mw-raves-return-15001-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 21:58:49 2001
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what? i dont get it? are you talking about me? im
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--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
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> 
> there's candy kid all over the carpeting,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: [mw] i can't believe
> 
> I'll add something here too. Define drug - I think
> you mean illegal drug.
> 
> Caffiene is a drug
> Nicotine is a drug
> Cough Syrup is a drug
> Chocolate is a drug
> Fried Chicken is a drug
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> Oxygen is a drug
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lost alot in the fire, including their contact info....can someone help me? 
it is VERY important i find them before the weekend.

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From mw-raves-return-15003-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 22:04:10 2001
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I think 17+ (with valad Id) is reasonable and fare at
parties!
NOTHING ELSE YOUNGER
anyone else agree?


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>
>No one got hurt,

i think i may have hurt dica a bit...but im not sure...but its ok i touched 
his dick to make up for it :-)

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> > If anyone remembers this party, I'd like to hear
> > your perception of it.
>

i didnt go...i went to bassrush...it was fun :-)
convincing people from out of town that the huge fireworks display on the 
river that night (actually the opening cerimonies for the kentucky derby) 
was a 4:20 celebration because weed was kentucky's number 1 cash crop was 
fun too :-)

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ok, ok just to make you guys all happy, i've decided
to just unsubscribe myself from this group. (first i
gotta figure out how) but i assure you as soon as i
figure that out, i'll be dust (gone) so yea, anyway,
you can all chill out, and relax, cuz you will no
longer have to ponder about what your gonna diss on me
about next. k? but if you ever get the urge to wanna
drop me a line...only if your gonna be nice, then
email me personally.
alwayz-n-forever
*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~candice~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
ps. please try not to talk behind my back. cuz man, i
just hate that!
*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*


--- MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
> did u ignore the bottom part of that message or
> something?
> 
> Look here girl, i have had this conversation with
> about 50 of kids like u and they understand they
> don't bitch. I want u to talk to one of them i am
> still friends with one of them and they are waiting
> to go to parties until they have a drivers license
> which was kick ass of him. So do me a favor shut up.



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Nope, just out side Indy.  Metro population of 1.5 million.  Cities are
filled with people who want handouts pure and simple.  Hell look at the
map of the country USA Today printed.  The cites tend to be democrates.
Why?  Democrates give the most handouts.  I mean many of the union workers
and teachers I know live out in the burbs where the counties are usually
republican.  The more people that move into an area, the more they want
the government to provide.  More and more young girls will pop out kids
and demand welfare.  more and more junkies will demand needles and hiv
treatments all paid for curtosy of us.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> > This country
> > needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and more
> > people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
> > protect them.
> 
>     What the hell does moving to cities have anything to do with it??? Lemme
> guess, you live in the country? (I live in Minneapolis proper)
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
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Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

I am not talking rural, even in the burbs it's city living so to speak.
The larger the area, the more handouts people want.  People are willing to
scarifice certain rights (in LA and NYC guns thinking they are horrible
killing machines--which their own curropt cops get issued).  Many cops in
the cities are more apt to be anti citizens owning guns.  They want to be
that 'thin blue line'.  I went to the gun show and saw rural cops with AKs
and the like.  However some of the cops I work with think they should just
ban them.  They don't care cause they will always have a gun, their duty
weapon.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> Maybe, he's saying it's easier to be self-sufficient - grow your own food,
> make your own clothes, roll your own cigars, etc. in the country, which I
> could agree with, although it's not impossible to do this in cities. Living
> in a studio flat on the 23rd floor might hamper things a bit.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Murphy [mailto:murph@mr.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:26 PM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> 
> 
> > This country
> > needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and more
> > people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
> > protect them.
> 
>     What the hell does moving to cities have anything to do with it??? Lemme
> guess, you live in the country? (I live in Minneapolis proper)
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
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I'll agree with you there. Although, I don't own a gun and don't plan to
anytime soon, I think it's a fundamental right to be able to defend
yourself. I participated in a gun control rally in downtown Chicago, as the
opposition, and we were made to stand behind barriers, while the gun control
crowd (a large percentage were elementary school kids bussed in) were free
to roam the plaza. Neverthless, my bullhorn came in handy as Mayor Daley got
up to speak on the evils of guns. I quickly turned on the bullhorn and
yelled - "Even the hypocrite Mayor Daley has armed guards, why should he be
able to defend himself while you cannot..." at that point one of Chicago's
finest tried to get in my face, but instead of disuading me, I simply yelled
in the bullhorn "see all these cops around you. why do they carry arms? i'll
tell you why. because they know that criminals carry weapons, and will
always carry weapons no matter what the laws are. that's what makes them
criminals." I had a cool sign with Adolph Hitler doing a sieg hiel that said
"Raise your hand if you are for gun control." All in all, it had to be the
funnest hour long lunch break i've ever had. and all thanks to the Chicago
Libertarian party...

Noble

-no i am not a right winger..

-----Original Message-----
From: rvkeller@iupui.edu [mailto:rvkeller@iupui.edu]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:19 PM
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I am not talking rural, even in the burbs it's city living so to speak.
The larger the area, the more handouts people want.  People are willing to
scarifice certain rights (in LA and NYC guns thinking they are horrible
killing machines--which their own curropt cops get issued).  Many cops in
the cities are more apt to be anti citizens owning guns.  They want to be
that 'thin blue line'.  I went to the gun show and saw rural cops with AKs
and the like.  However some of the cops I work with think they should just
ban them.  They don't care cause they will always have a gun, their duty
weapon.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> Maybe, he's saying it's easier to be self-sufficient - grow your own food,
> make your own clothes, roll your own cigars, etc. in the country, which I
> could agree with, although it's not impossible to do this in cities.
Living
> in a studio flat on the 23rd floor might hamper things a bit.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Murphy [mailto:murph@mr.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:26 PM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> 
> 
> > This country
> > needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and
more
> > people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
> > protect them.
> 
>     What the hell does moving to cities have anything to do with it???
Lemme
> guess, you live in the country? (I live in Minneapolis proper)
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
> 
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:57:33 -0500 (EST), chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

>> > You are a drug
>> 
>> You are a tool.
>
>tools are a drug.
>


Drugs are a tool.

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From mw-raves-return-15011-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 22:46:13 2001
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Subject: RE: [mw] i can't believe

again, that wasn't for you candice :)

i AM really starting to like you though.

rave on,
-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Candice Rustong 
Subject: RE: [mw] i can't believe


what? i dont get it? are you talking about me? im
confused again.

--- Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote:
> i think you may have made candice's brain explode.
> 
> there's candy kid all over the carpeting,
> -t
> 
> 

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To: oma-raves@egroups.com, nyc-raves@hyperreal.org, ne-raves@world.std.com,
  midwest-trance@egroups.com, ISURavers@egroups.com, iacitybeats@listbot.com,
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Subject: [mw] Don't Forget***PULSE*** Jan 27 Featuring the Djs from the Movie GROVE!

Cloudbreak Productions Presents..... 

***PULSE*** 

A Benefit For The American Cancer Society 

**All Proceeds Benefit The American Cancer Society**


Saturday, January 27th 

  In Pittsburgh Pa 

  10-6am 

$15 Presale 

$20 

412-808-3306 

cloudbreakproductions@yahoo.com 

17+ with Valad Id 

-----------------------------------------------------


The Main Room: 

  

Forest Green (Sister SF, Cloud Factory, Organized
Chaos, FnF,San Fran Actively involved in the
world-wide underground dance scene, Forest Green
spins Techno, Electro, House and various derivatives
of all other electronic music. She is involved in
Many
projects and collectives through out the San
Francisco Bay Area and Canada, and is featured in the
movie GROOVE, an independent feature film set during
one night in the San Fran underground rave scene. 

  

Bing Ching- (Focus, SF) aka DJ Snaz from the movie
Groovespinning some deep house to get your ass
grooving. 

  

The Mighty Mezz (F.E.S.P.) A New York resident comes
back to Pittsburgh to take you on a journey with his
seamless blend of progressive beats and trance-core
energy. 

  

Andrew Phelan-(Seismic Productions) Chicago deep
disco and hard house. This guy has held residency's
in
Chicago and has been spinning in Ohio currently.
Come check him out!!! 

  

Tim vs. Ted Zelch-(Twin Productions) These guys are
gonna blow your mind tagging an awesome set. Their
residents at groove every friday at Club Laga. 

  

DJ Messy (CloudBreak Productions / Lolli.org) CD
Release Party DJ Messy will be releasing his new CD
Verkurzt with awesome sounds of Progressive House
and UK Hardhouse. You can't miss this!!! Free
giveaways!!!
Just Listen!

http://www.chemlab.org/archives.php4?mode=artist&artist_name=DJ+Messy


  

Kingpin (CloudBreak Productions) A newer DJ that is
making his name known in the Pittsburgh scene
spinning progressive house and trance. 

-----------------------------------------------------


The Dnb Room: 

Aria & L. Black (Good Looking Records / Skunkwerks /
3WP)Dj Aria is fast becoming the most popular
Intell/Atmospheric DnB Djs in both the Mid-west and
in US along with Mc L. Black (who recently got a
recording contract a off of LTJ Bukem's GOOD LOOKING
recording label),This should be an Eye opening
experience for all who love the Intelligent sound of
Dn'B! If you missed his set at Chaoticotic Trans or
at Acclerate heresA sample of what you'll be Hearing:

http://www.chemlab.org/cgi-bin/make.m3u?arch=chaotic_transdimension&track=aria%2Bmc_black

  

Focus (Murder On Deck ,Hypersonic,fuNCtionSE)(Nc)
One of Nc's finest Djs, he has been blowing up in
NC,Fl,Pa, and in OH! His technical wizardry and
track selection is definatley something you do not
want miss! 

  

Adam Bomb BatteredArmidillo/y-town First appearence
in Pgh! dropping some dark atomic bombs for the
junglist massiv' 

  

Binac (aka nicky bulletproof) systembulletproof /
412dnb.lm.com The founding father of 412's
Bulletproof an a operative who has been a staple in
the pittsburgh drum n bass community for years
Nickhas
been responsibile for bringing in some of the best
Dn'B talent to pgh now as a Dj he has been growing in
popularity 

  

DJ Depth/with Mc Nicka FaithinDn'B/Pgh 
Dj Depth is one of Pgh newest and brightest stars
along with Mc Nicka who was introduced recently as
pgh newest DnB mc's will put on set plesant to the
ears!


  

MVP (412dnb crew / Pittsburgh) FUZE Resident and
Winner of the Atomic battle of the DJ's. This guy
has been throwing down hard ass jungle in Pittsburgh
for over 4 years. His smooth mixing ability and tight
cuts are down to keep your head banging. Don't miss  
this set. 

  

Dj Kuggs FaithinDn'B 

--------------------------------------------

Giveaways all night from Kinetic Records

(they did the soundtrack for the movie Groove) !!! 

Cancer information booth too!!! 

Come out and support a good cause and have a great
time!!!






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Subject: [mw] Please sign this petition in support of our scene.

Greets...

A Federal case brought against the managers of the State Palace Theater in
New Orleans and the promoter of techno/rave events held there (Freebase
Society) is threatening our scenes future.

If this case sets a precedent... it will have national implications in our
scene, and possibly squash an intire industry.

The 'Fuzzy Logic' that the government is attempting to convict them with
will be able to be applied to the smallest house party... to bars... to
clubs... to full on events. It all depends upon how harsh each local DA
wants to be.

Please sign the following in support of those being charged with violating
the Federal Crackhouse Law.

Please be serious when signing.

http://www.123petitions.com/sign.cgi?id=moonboy@tennesseeraver.every1.net$2


Please forward this to as many people as you can.

Don't let Twisted Sister be the only one to "Fight for your right, to
party!". 

It's time for all of us to band together and show our strength and
solidarity. All help is needed... even if it's just signing a petition.

Apathy is our enemy... 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Kaye [mailto:StevenKaye@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:59 PM
To: mwraves
Subject: [mw] Please sign this petition in support of our scene.


Greets...

A Federal case brought against the managers of the State Palace Theater in
New Orleans and the promoter of techno/rave events held there (Freebase
Society) is threatening our scenes future.

We don't want to end up like England do we??


If this case sets a precedent... it will have national implications in our
scene, and possibly squash an intire industry.

The 'Fuzzy Logic' that the government is attempting to convict them with
will be able to be applied to the smallest house party... to bars... to
clubs... to full on events. It all depends upon how harsh each local DA
wants to be.

Please sign the following in support of those being charged with violating
the Federal Crackhouse Law.

will do...

Please be serious when signing.

http://www.123petitions.com/sign.cgi?id=moonboy@tennesseeraver.every1.net$2


Please forward this to as many people as you can.

Don't let Twisted Sister be the only one to "Fight for your right, to
party!". 

What about the Beatie Boys?

It's time for all of us to band together and show our strength and
solidarity. All help is needed... even if it's just signing a petition.

Apathy is our enemy... 

true dat.


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well, don't come to detroit, we lost our scene years ago.  that is why i
started going to cleveland but they are loosing it too.  i say we all go to
Ibiza, they may not actually have raves there anymore but i think they at
least forbid minors.  about the pill thing:  i am so glad i stopped rolling
a few years back, i don't think i could actually buy a pill nowadays knowing
that PMA is going around.  we just had a girl die here on new years day i
think.  but supposedly her boyfriend lived.  why can't people wise up?  is
it so important to do drugs that they don't think about their wellbeing?  i
mean, if you are gonna roll, at least have the pill tested first and use
common sense.  boy do i sound like a mother or what.  (i'm not)

peace,
storm   :)~


-----Original Message-----
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To: rave <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:34 PM
Subject: [mw] back in the day


>I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
>every weekend.  Now I can't remember the last party
>that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
>new.  I know it's not cause there is no more party
>kids left out there but the population is definately
>going down.  I wish I could go back to an underground
>party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
>talk to anybody there and you know they will share
>stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
>little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
>just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
>like people are just there for the drugs now days.  If
>anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
>over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
>please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
>for me any more.
>
>~Jncoz~
>
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From mw-raves-return-15016-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 23:27:28 2001
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What is PMA?

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well, don't come to detroit, we lost our scene years ago.  that is why i
started going to cleveland but they are loosing it too.  i say we all go to
Ibiza, they may not actually have raves there anymore but i think they at
least forbid minors.  about the pill thing:  i am so glad i stopped rolling
a few years back, i don't think i could actually buy a pill nowadays knowing
that PMA is going around.  we just had a girl die here on new years day i
think.  but supposedly her boyfriend lived.  why can't people wise up?  is
it so important to do drugs that they don't think about their wellbeing?  i
mean, if you are gonna roll, at least have the pill tested first and use
common sense.  boy do i sound like a mother or what.  (i'm not)

peace,
storm   :)~


-----Original Message-----
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To: rave <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:34 PM
Subject: [mw] back in the day


>I remember back in the day, I met so many party kids
>every weekend.  Now I can't remember the last party
>that I went to that I acctually got to know somebody
>new.  I know it's not cause there is no more party
>kids left out there but the population is definately
>going down.  I wish I could go back to an underground
>party where everyone is there to have fun, you can
>talk to anybody there and you know they will share
>stories, and the pills were always good.  I think the
>little kids are bringing the scene down cause they
>just don't know what the scene used to be, it seems
>like people are just there for the drugs now days.  If
>anybody knows of any cities that haven't been taken
>over by the new raves and still throws the old parties
>please let me know cause Chicago just doesn't do it
>for me any more.
>
>~Jncoz~
>
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From mw-raves-return-15017-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 23:30:52 2001
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Subject: [mw] ULTRA3_2K1 - The Equation of Electronic Dance Music - March 24, 2001

March 24, 2001 in Miami, Florida at beautiful Bayfront
Park in Downtown Miami, ULTRA3_2k1 will kickoff the
Winter Music Conference. An all-star lineup with the
like of Paul Oakenfold, Deep Dish, DJ Tiesto, Talla,
DJ Skribble, KRS-1, George Acosta and many many
others. 

This festival will bring together the best promotion
groups in the world, featuring performance arenas done
by Homelands, Gatecrasher, Drum and Bass Arena,
Therapy/Bliss and more TBA.

Stay tuned to http://www.ultra2000.net for ticket and
travel info.

This will mark the first time that all of the top
promotion groups in the world come together to put on
a spectacular event, all overlooking beautiful
Biscayne Bay.

Tickets will go on sale Feb. 1, 2001.

=====
TERRY MAC
Futuristic Entertainment Technologies - Miami, FLA
http://www.festivalcre8or.com
 
ULTRA 2000 had 150,000 watts of sound. ULTRA3 will have well over 500,000 watts of NEXO Alpha engulfing your entire body with crystal clear sound and jaw-dropping BASS!!!!!

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:14:07 -0600 Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> writes:
> What is PMA?
> 
> it's like PMS except it's deadly. 
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dude its like 17+ 
any younger should not be at raves
sorry
--- XtINkeRbeLlX11@aol.com wrote:
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From mw-raves-return-15020-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 23:44:48 2001
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dude, ever heard of a fake id??

Noble

Crossposting is not a crime!!

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dude its like 17+ 
any younger should not be at raves
sorry
--- XtINkeRbeLlX11@aol.com wrote:
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From mw-raves-return-15021-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 22 23:53:55 2001
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	rch 24, 2001

Wow, what a great example of how crappy a website can be, even with Flash!


Stay tuned to http://www.ultra2000.net for ticket and
travel info.


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the "bloomin onion" will enhance your roll...


trust me, and throw another shrimp on the barbie for me

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:06 PM
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> there's an interstellar outback steakhouse here in town, is security
tight?
> do they allow you to bring in vicks?
>
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tad
> Subject: RE: [mw] back in the day
>
> Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down
early,
> no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.
>
> If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar
outback.
>
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Subject: [mw] PMA

PMA (Para-methoxy-amphetamine, 4-MA), a powerful stimulant that is cheaper
...  it is what some pills have in them now instead of MDMA.

PMA is paramethoxyamphetamine. It is a hallucinogenic stimulant that some
people experimented with in the 1970s, but which never became a popular
recreational drug due to its high toxicity. It is one of the most dangerous
and toxic hallucinogens known.

The effects are:

At lower doses (less that 50mg, depending on body weight) PMA produces an
increase in energy, minor visual hallucinations, and a mild euphoric state.
At slightly higher doses it (suddenly) increases heart rate, blood pressure
and body temperature to dangerously high levels that can lead to
convulsions, coma and death. A person who has ingested a high enough dose of
PMA has difficulty breathing, develops muscle spasms and nausea, and starts
vomiting.

The initial effects of a low dose of PMA might feel a little bit like MDMA,
but PMA takes more than half an hour longer to come on. This may cause some
people to take another pill thinking that they got "weak Ecstasy." By this
time the person may have taken a lethal dose.

One of the kids that died from it in chicago was the cousin of a girl i work
with.  She said that the doctor told the family that his insides melted from
the effects of the drug.  Supposedly it raises your temp to like 106+ and
you die from overheating and basically meltdown.  i got most of this info
from ravesafe.org if you want to read more just check out that site.

Peace,
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> 
> dude, ever heard of a fake id??
 
Tell it to this person!
XtINkeRbeLlX11@aol.com

I could care less if you have a fake Id. more power to
you..But the event Is 17 + considering the way other
cities have been handling buisness I think its quite
generous!
17+ is extremely fare!
 


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i really like break circles...and talented break crews for that matter
so neener.
-val
"im 13"

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> > >     Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but t'ain't no break
> > > circles 'round here! =]
> >
> > Those were really popular about a year ago or so in Minneapolis.  I
> > remember a few huge ones, like at Love and such.
> 
>     Yeah, I was glad to see those go, although I think the reason they left
> has more to do with shrinking venues and increasing crowds, such that it's
> hard to dance anyway, which kinda sucks, but whatever. I think they actually
> advertise breaking crews who are going to be at a party in chicago... that's
> pretty funny...
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
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Subject: Re: [mw] Info on St.Louis Parties

http://www.superstarsoflove.com

for a real good time call # 314-994-1114

Ya know,
  lots of peoples like you THINK that they can just
"pass thru" St. Louis on their way some place else.
And many never make it out of here alive with that
kind of attitude-  especially when they make the
mistake of thinkin' that us show-me-state types are
just yer average everyday friendly party freaks.  
Good luck...

--- astrl vapor <astrlvapor@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, I am going to be going through St. Louis on the
> 3rd of March and was 
> curious if there were any parties going on.  A
> friend and I are heading 
> through St. Louis on our way down to New Orleans for
> Mardi Gras.  We want to 
> hit up a party in St. Louis there.  Also, Since I am
> not from that area, I 
> would need assistance in getting to the party(maybe
> a ride or directions in 
> advance).  I would be willing to chip in for gas or
> whatever that night.
> 
> Or if you could send links or emails in which I can
> get information about 
> parties there, that would be very helpful.
> 
> peace
> 
> Paul
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----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> true dat.
> 

FUNK DAT!!!!

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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> Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down
early,
> no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.
>
> If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar outback.

Actually, there was a VERY frightening heroin OD at the first Interstellar. The girl was
flat-lined for around a full minute. A yogi who was there led a sort of "healing meditation", but
we all know that's a bunch of hippy BS anyhow...


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the American Dream is now the American Demand...

That's a quote of mine that I always use...

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> Isn't this what America is all about these days - "It's not my fault!"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:
> > it truly sucks for those who have to take the fall for
> > the actions of ignorant kids who can't seem to
> 
> what truly sucks is that this happens in America.
> 
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> Actually, there was a VERY frightening heroin OD at the first
Interstellar. The girl was
> flat-lined for around a full minute.


That was, what was her name, ummm, she lives in san fran now I think, she
was from cleveland...

Stevie T actually knows her (im not joking either;)...

anyways, there was insane drugs there, and chinese dudes rolling up and down
the line of cars selling shit like it was going out of style...

I Have to admit, there is nothing like expecting a three day event, then
ending up spending a day at a truck stop, or invading some poor unexpected
town (where the hell was that anyways??)

Nonetheless, there is a myth that the "good old days" was all hunky-dory...

well...

it wasn't, ask anyone from 94-95 east coast!!

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/me wonders how this <rvkeller@iupui.edu> fellow ever got so stupid...

/me keeps reading his emails...

<rvkeller@iupui.edu>: "However some of the cops I work with think they
should just ban them."

Ahhhhh, that explains a lot.

Fuck the police.

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> /me wonders how this <rvkeller@iupui.edu> fellow ever got so stupid...
> 
> /me keeps reading his emails...
> 
> <rvkeller@iupui.edu>: "However some of the cops I work with think they
> should just ban them."
> 
> Ahhhhh, that explains a lot.
> 
> Fuck the police.
> 



And that was even more idiotic....

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From: Candice Rustong <baby_boo2786@yahoo.com>
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hey, 
   thanx for the "pep talk" or whatever, but i think i
would be more excepted in a group containing people
around my age. and i know that if i did give half the
people in here a chance to finally chill out and stop
dogging on me or whatever i'd stay but honestly i dont
really wanna continue fighting with people i dont even
know...you know? anyway thanx for the support or
whatever. but im thinkin im gonna leave. but, i'll
stick around till' tomorrow, cause i'd like to see a
few other peoples inputs. if anyone else has any.
thanx.
alwayz-n-forever,
candice
--- chad sponholz <chad@hyperreal.org> wrote:
> 
> for the record, candice, despite the age difference
> and all the abuse
> you've taken from the idiots on this list.  you've
> handled  yourself
> with as much tact as anyone else... sometimes even
> more.
> 
> nothing like mw-raves to leave you with a broken
> spirit, eh?
> 
> if you really want to unsub, mail
> mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org
> 
> ...or stick around for awhile and see if it gets
> better.  don't leave to
> make other people happy... especially when they are
> dickheads.  
> 
> i, for one, feel that people can develop at any pace
> they choose,
> but keep in mind that at a young age there are still
> a lot of changes to
> go through, and one of the best ways to learn
> is through experience... something that people 5-10
> years older than you
> will almost always have more of.  
> 
> that doesn't give them the right to break you down,
> but many people feel
> that it is necessary in order to help build you
> up... a "blessing in
> disguise" kind of idea... not sure i agree, but it's
> one possible
> explanation as to why you were treated the way you
> were on this list.
> 
> it could also be that the people giving you a hard
> time feel that because
> they were at your age at one time, they know best...
> but, of course,
> there's no way they could REALLY know unless they
> knew you personally and
> knew what you are about... 
> 
> they'd also have to know a few other things 
> to make them qualified to talk the kind of talk they
> talk.  more than half
> of what comes through mw-raves is bullshit.  
> 
> either way just stay true to yourself (... and your
> parents, if you
> can) and i know you'll do fine wherever you choose
> to be... seems like you
> have a good head on your shoulders.
> 
> take it easy, candice.
> 
> peace,
> chad
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Candice Rustong wrote:
> 
> +ok, ok just to make you guys all happy, i've
> decided
> +to just unsubscribe myself from this group. (first
> i
> +gotta figure out how) but i assure you as soon as i
> +figure that out, i'll be dust (gone) so yea,
> anyway,
> +you can all chill out, and relax, cuz you will no
> +longer have to ponder about what your gonna diss on
> me
> +about next. k? but if you ever get the urge to
> wanna
> +drop me a line...only if your gonna be nice, then
> +email me personally.
> +alwayz-n-forever
>
+*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~candice~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
> +ps. please try not to talk behind my back. cuz man,
> i
> +just hate that!
>
+*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
> +
> +
> +--- MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
> +> did u ignore the bottom part of that message or
> +> something?
> +> 
> +> Look here girl, i have had this conversation with
> +> about 50 of kids like u and they understand they
> +> don't bitch. I want u to talk to one of them i am
> +> still friends with one of them and they are
> waiting
> +> to go to parties until they have a drivers
> license
> +> which was kick ass of him. So do me a favor shut
> up.
> +
> +
> +
> +__________________________________________________
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> 


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: > Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down
: early,
: > no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.
: >
: > If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar
outback.
:
i remember back in the day...i also remember busted and shut down parties
and ODs and heroin...as a matter of fact didnt china girl od at interstellar
outback 1...also didnt it get busted (basically) and get moved to a number
of locations that weekend ????

-THE bitch iySyS-

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||also didnt it get busted (basically) and get moved to a number of locations that weekend ????

got busted bad friday.. the state park let everyone in the gate at something like $10 a car, then
shut us down after they closed. the park got trashed. saturday we took it to a club in downtown
lexington (As much as lexington has a downtown) and then moved it to the other outdoor space
sometime that afternoon. that space was fine until the OD on sunday..



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you are such a wank.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, darw_n wrote:

-->the American Dream is now the American Demand...
-->
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> hey, 
>    thanx for the "pep talk" or whatever, but i think i
> would be more excepted in a group containing people
> around my age. and i know that if i did give half the
> people in here a chance to finally chill out and stop
> dogging on me or whatever i'd stay but honestly i dont
> really wanna continue fighting with people i dont even
> know...you know? anyway thanx for the support or
> whatever. but im thinkin im gonna leave. but, i'll
> stick around till' tomorrow, cause i'd like to see a
> few other peoples inputs. if anyone else has any.
> thanx.
> alwayz-n-forever,
> candice

Candice,
  I haven't been watching this thread at all but judging from this email I
am
assuming you are relatively young and just starting to go to parties or
whatever.
hell, you may even be candy!  So I can already guess the things that were
said,
and I'm honestly not sure why I wasn't a part of that harassment, but
whatever.
people are just fuckin around and taking advantage of an "easy target".
don't worry about it, but this list is high volume sometimes, and you may
not find
much on here worth your time, but if you wait a few more days people will be
arguing
with someone else about something new, so its nothing personal. If you are
still here
as long as I think this whole thing started, you've outlasted quite a few
others.
so leave, if you want to, but don't tell all your younger/candier friends
not to join
cos then we'll get really bored.

that is all

bartles & james

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Honestly.....

IMHO.

Instead of ragging on lil kids because they go to parties at such a young 
age.. . maybe we should try to educate them. They are not gonna stop going .. 
so why not lead them in the right direction?????
No, drugs are not good for anyone, let alone a 14 yr old....but maybe these 
kids see shit on tv... maybe they see movies .. that make them think they 
need to do drugs at a rave to have a good time... I mean.. isnt that what the 
media portrays? Why would they think otherwise unless someone showed them 
otherwise??

blah..  im prolly wasting my time.





In a message dated 1/22/01 8:23:26 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
baby_boo2786@yahoo.com writes:
 
 hey, 
    thanx for the "pep talk" or whatever, but i think i
 would be more excepted in a group containing people
 around my age. and i know that if i did give half the
 people in here a chance to finally chill out and stop
 dogging on me or whatever i'd stay but honestly i dont
 really wanna continue fighting with people i dont even
 know...you know? anyway thanx for the support or
 whatever. but im thinkin im gonna leave. but, i'll
 stick around till' tomorrow, cause i'd like to see a
 few other peoples inputs. if anyone else has any.
 thanx.
 alwayz-n-forever,
 candice
 --- chad sponholz <chad@hyperreal.org> wrote:
 > 
 > for the record, candice, despite the age difference
 > and all the abuse
 > you've taken from the idiots on this list.  you've
 > handled  yourself
 > with as much tact as anyone else... sometimes even
 > more.
 > 
 > nothing like mw-raves to leave you with a broken
 > spirit, eh?
 > 
 > if you really want to unsub, mail
 > mw-raves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org
 > 
 > ...or stick around for awhile and see if it gets
 > better.  don't leave to
 > make other people happy... especially when they are
 > dickheads.  
 > 
 > i, for one, feel that people can develop at any pace
 > they choose,
 > but keep in mind that at a young age there are still
 > a lot of changes to
 > go through, and one of the best ways to learn
 > is through experience... something that people 5-10
 > years older than you
 > will almost always have more of.  
 > 
 > that doesn't give them the right to break you down,
 > but many people feel
 > that it is necessary in order to help build you
 > up... a "blessing in
 > disguise" kind of idea... not sure i agree, but it's
 > one possible
 > explanation as to why you were treated the way you
 > were on this list.
 > 
 > it could also be that the people giving you a hard
 > time feel that because
 > they were at your age at one time, they know best...
 > but, of course,
 > there's no way they could REALLY know unless they
 > knew you personally and
 > knew what you are about... 
 > 
 > they'd also have to know a few other things 
 > to make them qualified to talk the kind of talk they
 > talk.  more than half
 > of what comes through mw-raves is bullshit.  
 > 
 > either way just stay true to yourself (... and your
 > parents, if you
 > can) and i know you'll do fine wherever you choose
 > to be... seems like you
 > have a good head on your shoulders.
 > 
 > take it easy, candice.
 > 
 > peace,
 > chad
 > 
 > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Candice Rustong wrote:
 > 
 > +ok, ok just to make you guys all happy, i've
 > decided
 > +to just unsubscribe myself from this group. (first
 > i
 > +gotta figure out how) but i assure you as soon as i
 > +figure that out, i'll be dust (gone) so yea,
 > anyway,
 > +you can all chill out, and relax, cuz you will no
 > +longer have to ponder about what your gonna diss on
 > me
 > +about next. k? but if you ever get the urge to
 > wanna
 > +drop me a line...only if your gonna be nice, then
 > +email me personally.
 > +alwayz-n-forever
 >
 +*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~candice~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
 > +ps. please try not to talk behind my back. cuz man,
 > i
 > +just hate that!
 >
 +*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
 > +
 > +
 > +--- MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:
 > +> did u ignore the bottom part of that message or
 > +> something?
 > +> 
 > +> Look here girl, i have had this conversation with
 > +> about 50 of kids like u and they understand they
 > +> don't bitch. I want u to talk to one of them i am
 > +> still friends with one of them and they are
 > waiting
 > +> to go to parties until they have a drivers
 > license
 > +> which was kick ass of him. So do me a favor shut
 > up.
 > +
 > +
 > +
 > +__________________________________________________
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 > +Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great
 > prices. 
 > +http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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quiet, mushmouth.  see if you can ride your 10-speed all the way back to 
china on one welfare check and a 3-page rave resume.

mk

>i can attest to michael as a fine example of an
>adult who got fucked up pretty gnarly-like on a
>long term basis due to "recreational" use of a
>lot of "rave drugs"
>
>michael havin children?!...now that's a scarey
>thought!..hyeah, maybe it would be a good idea
>for you to move back to mars, michael...


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>hyeah, i'm 30 and i bet i can out dance all y'alls!

except that you look like lou gehrig being electrocuted when you dance, you 
uncoordinated 30 year old mongoloid motherfucker.

mk

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>i saw live @ the tibetan freedom concert (shez, i've refered to that twice
>in as many days!) and i was really unimpressed.  their songs are alright,
>but i really thought their performance was tired and boring.

i actually went to their show in columbus in september of 94 because weezer 
was opening and you could get a free ticket if you signed up for a discover 
card.  weezer rocked, but man did live ever suck ass!!!!!  i got kicked out 
while they were on.  :P

mk

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>Yeah, back in the day there were no busted parties getting shut down early,
>no stupid drugs in the scene like heroin, and no one overdosed.
>
>If only I could go back and relive great parties like interstellar outback.

LOL, even tho i should restrain my laughter in the name of 
taste.  *snicker*  ;)

mk

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>Mine was 420 in Cleveland, either '95 or '96
>If anyone remembers this party, I'd like to hear your perception of it.

it was april 96 and yes it r0x0red - i'd put it in my top ten parties 
ever.  too bad the sequels sucked ass.

mk

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> No, drugs are not good for anyone, let alone a 14 yr 
> old....but maybe these 
> kids see shit on tv... maybe they see movies .. that make 
> them think they 
> need to do drugs at a rave to have a good time... I mean.. 
> isnt that what the 
> media portrays? Why would they think otherwise unless someone 
> showed them 
> otherwise??
> 
> blah..  im prolly wasting my time.
Lorie,
  I agree with you on both counts, you are right and you are wasting your
time here.
but to hopefully make this into a topic, I think that we need to stop
looking out to media
as a scapegoat about what these 14 year olds are seeing that makes them
think they need
drugs to enjoy raving. What about siblings, what about once they make it to
the party and
they see all these people fucked up on whatever they can be, and having a
good time.
Age aside, not many people can differientiate(or spell that word) between a
fucked up person
and a sober person, sure there are clues. but i know *I* have been to
parties before
and been convinced EVERYONE there is fucked up but me. and maybe we need to
have better times at
parties so these 14 year olds can have enough fun that they aren't looking
for that "missing ingredient"
that makes this raving thing such a big deal.  
I for one will not be jaded at my next party.
thats my contribution.

for what its worth, ravers ARE fucked up, as a "scene"
so its not tv, its the partygoers.
THAT is why people are so defensive about tv's portrayal, because its
fucking true
and they don't want to deal with it.

scrap it and start over

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>Not everyone goes to church and not everyone has rich
>or well to do friends or relatives.  Then what do these people do ?

get a fucking job and stop having kids.  or, failing that, freeze to death.

mk

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heh - "doug's drugs".

wannabe film geek,
mk

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dear dr. hippie,

i seem to have lost the URL of the studies you conducted with your esteemed 
colleagues, man, whereby you determined that caffeine was no worse than 
heroin for human consumption.  could you please repost it?

mk

At 01:01 PM 1/22/01 -0700, simon kellman wrote:
>hahaha, i love watching cultural/govermental brainwashing in full effect.
>isn't it interesting how legions of powerful government-approved drugs are
>considered acceptable, but the relatively tiny number of "recreational" drugs
>are demonized?  it's fascinating to observe when most of America (especially
>the kids) are using prescription drugs, yet federal propaganda continues to
>hold up "a drug-free america" as the ideal for our society.  then again, we've
>managed to uphold the illusion that alcohol isn't a *drug* this long.... i'm
>sure there's plenty of room for vicodin, ritalin, oxycodone, percoset,
>dexedrine, adarol, etc. to fit right in with our old-school standbys of
>caffeine and nicotene.
>
>ha.  i don't buy that crap that "recreational" drugs are any less useful,
>worthwhile, or dangerous than "therapeutic" drugs.  you want drug-free?!  ---
>y'all ain't ready for drug-free.
>
>peace,
>catnap
>
>
>
>
>pixie <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Just for this whole list, can some please tell me
> > how a person can be 98%
> > drug free? You either do drugs or u don't, I think I
> > am right in saying that
> > drug use is a yes or no situation.
>
>prescription.
>
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Subject: [mw] favorite parties

Two come to mind:

StairWay to HeadPhones/Minneapolis...yeah...I had
never seen Woody's Wall of Base until that
night...let's just say I wasn't quite all there, but
had a great night...what made the night *special* was
meeting the coolest cat as I was just leaving the
space...Frankie Vega had to literally drag my ass out
of there with his brother...and if anyone's seen his
brother-you'd understand why it looked so "classic"


Harmony-Megarave/Chicago '92...that's when they had a
bungee thing-a-majig, miles maeda, sergio cruz, rp
smack, circuit breaker and james johnso-all spinning
for what 1 dj charges today...probably less...but it
was awesome...right off I-55...under the stars...next
to a warehouse that someone new was "cool" about
it...no cops...few drugs...(I wasn't approached by
anyone the entire night-and I wasn't into that at
all), and no one really knowing what the fuck to
do...yeah...raving without and predisposed idea of
what it meant...

luis



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i definitely would - but that's a big "if" -- i'm still going to want to 
use the freeways and the libraries and public transit and whatever else is 
subsidized in whole or in part by our tax dollars.  i just think the 
handouts have gotta go.  or be _seriously_ retooled.  people need to take 
responsibility for ther own destinies.

mk

>Ask yourself this? If you could opt out of all government programs (SS,
>Medicare, Welfare, Federal Income Tax etc.) and not pay anything in or
>expect anything from the federal government (not talking about local
>government services), would you do it? I would.


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2 of my favourite parties for pretty much the same reasons.  :D

aiming to make most of you puke,
mk

>i'd definetly have to say even further 96' & sickness/recovery are my top 
>two.  i wasn't jaded or bitter yet.  i thought i was witnessing truth and 
>sincere beauty on both occasions.  very few memories remain so pure 
>anymore.  not to mention the line-up.
>-mariah (sorry, so sappy)


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> >Mine was 420 in Cleveland, either '95 or '96
> >If anyone remembers this party, I'd like to hear your perception of it.
> 

what do you wanna know about it, I helped throw that show...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

search for "djdarwin" on napster
www.sphereproductions.com
www.mannequinodd.com
www.mp3.com/darw_n
> it was april 96 and yes it r0x0red - i'd put it in my top ten parties 
> ever.  too bad the sequels sucked ass.
> 
> mk
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Subject: [mw] a pair of heels!

i haven't seen a heel-heel feud as over as the hhh-angle one is 
since....since ever!  what an interesting dynamic!

trish stratus' mic skills are so deplorable i daresay they remind me of the 
wcw.

mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] favorite parties

Hrm...  my favorite parties...

Fantastic Voyage, Jak-o-lantern, IO2, psykosis, V*ger, Satori, Mantra,
Minimal state all in no particular order.


tad


At 06:03 PM 1/22/01 -0800, Full Spectrum wrote:
>Two come to mind:
>
>StairWay to HeadPhones/Minneapolis...yeah...I had
>never seen Woody's Wall of Base until that
>night...let's just say I wasn't quite all there, but
>had a great night...what made the night *special* was
>meeting the coolest cat as I was just leaving the
>space...Frankie Vega had to literally drag my ass out
>of there with his brother...and if anyone's seen his
>brother-you'd understand why it looked so "classic"
>
>
>Harmony-Megarave/Chicago '92...that's when they had a
>bungee thing-a-majig, miles maeda, sergio cruz, rp
>smack, circuit breaker and james johnso-all spinning
>for what 1 dj charges today...probably less...but it
>was awesome...right off I-55...under the stars...next
>to a warehouse that someone new was "cool" about
>it...no cops...few drugs...(I wasn't approached by
>anyone the entire night-and I wasn't into that at
>all), and no one really knowing what the fuck to
>do...yeah...raving without and predisposed idea of
>what it meant...
>
>luis
>
>
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"cooked from the inside out" has to be the top-ranking rave-related sound 
bite of 2000.

mk

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china grrl.  heh.  she used to shag trent reznor.

mk

>That was, what was her name, ummm, she lives in san fran now I think, she
>was from cleveland...
>
>Stevie T actually knows her (im not joking either;)...


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>cause i'd like to see a
>few other peoples inputs.

i think i speak for the list when i say...

we'd like to see your inputs, also.

m cheap pop k

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Subject: Re: [mw] back in the day

darwin@veriomail.com writes:

<< Stevie T actually knows her (im not joking either;)...
 
 anyways, there was insane drugs there, and chinese dudes rolling up and down
 the line of cars selling shit like it was going out of style...
  >>

what a pile of rumor-mill pooplah!!

let's get this straight once and for all!!

china-girl was and still is very white!...polish actually!!

she was the one that od'ed on heroin and was brought
back to life!!

china-white is the name of the heroin she od'ed on and
obviously had on her!!

china white has nothing to do with china or chinese people,
in fact the very reason why china wanted hong kong back
so bad was because the very reason the UK owned that
part of town was because that's where they sold all the
asians that opium they were making mad money off of...
granted it was making that city a tremendous amount of 
money, but it was at the expense of thouands of chinese
lives!!

god, i hate ignorant rumor believing blokes!!

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michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< except that you look like lou gehrig being electrocuted when you dance, 
you 
 uncoordinated 30 year old mongoloid motherfucker. >>

bahahaha!!...lou gehrig is asian?!

don't worry, i still luv ya michael, eventho you're too
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was she the girl he wrote all those songs about?

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:27:54 -0600 michael knight
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> china grrl.  heh.  she used to shag trent reznor.
> 
> mk
> 
> >That was, what was her name, ummm, she lives in san fran now I 
> think, she
> >was from cleveland...
> >
> >Stevie T actually knows her (im not joking either;)...
> 
> 
>
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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: i dont care anymore.

Yes.. there are other factors besides the media, but the media IS *one*

and I did say "maybe these kids.."  meaning..  that could be one possible way 
they are getting into the scene.. and into drugs. There are lots of other 
ways kids are getting involved too..

I just know to many people that dont need drugs to say that the media is 
portraying the scene correctly.

Yes, they are correct in some aspects... and some they are not. Have they 
ever mentioned the music?? besides some rant on *loud techno music and drugs* 
 ??? 

blah.. I dont want to get some dumb thread started on media.. unless someone 
has connections to dateline.

I dont think I wasted my time on this one.. if at least one person commented.

And I never find myself going to a party *jaded* because im there to see 
someone I want to see.. and try not to worry about anything else... yeah I 
bitch about ravers and blah blah.. who doesnt? I wouldnt call that jaded...I 
would just call that bitching. I dont have a bitter attitude when I go 
because I know I will be hearing some slammin techno and that makes me 
happy...

Lorie


In a message dated 1/22/01 8:57:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
micah.topping@eds.com writes:

<< Lorie,
   I agree with you on both counts, you are right and you are wasting your
 time here.
 but to hopefully make this into a topic, I think that we need to stop
 looking out to media
 as a scapegoat about what these 14 year olds are seeing that makes them
 think they need
 drugs to enjoy raving. What about siblings, what about once they make it to
 the party and
 they see all these people fucked up on whatever they can be, and having a
 good time.
 Age aside, not many people can differientiate(or spell that word) between a
 fucked up person
 and a sober person, sure there are clues. but i know *I* have been to
 parties before
 and been convinced EVERYONE there is fucked up but me. and maybe we need to
 have better times at
 parties so these 14 year olds can have enough fun that they aren't looking
 for that "missing ingredient"
 that makes this raving thing such a big deal.  
 I for one will not be jaded at my next party.
 thats my contribution.
 
 for what its worth, ravers ARE fucked up, as a "scene"
 so its not tv, its the partygoers.
 THAT is why people are so defensive about tv's portrayal, because its
 fucking true
 and they don't want to deal with it.
 
 scrap it and start over >>

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> would just call that bitching. I dont have a bitter attitude 
> when I go 
> because I know I will be hearing some slammin techno and that 
> makes me 
> happy...
hippy


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Son316east@aol.com writes:

<< china white has nothing to do with china or chinese people,
 in fact the very reason why china wanted hong kong back
 so bad was because the very reason the UK owned that
 part of town was because that's where they sold all the
 asians that opium they were making mad money off of...
 granted it was making that city a tremendous amount of 
 money, but it was at the expense of thouands of chinese
 lives!! >>

i am so sick of asians being used as a scapegoat,
paying for the sins of greedy evil corrupt white folk!!

like i really attended five years of an ivy league college
to be racial profiled for some bullshit!!...lord knows they
tried like hell by messing with my career and keeping me
unemployed as much as possible to try to push me into
it!!

for the true source of drugs, rent: JACOB"S LADDER!!

or check this site... 
http://www.parascope.com/gallery/galleryitems/edgewood/edgewood.htm

mind you, this all happened waaay before i was born!!

you were all guinea pigs!!...toys for the military...lol...in
fact, you actually paid to be guinea pigs...pfft, all this time
by buying illegal drugs, you've been contributing to the
covert operations of the US Military!!...i.e. investing in 
World War III!...as if y'all didn't know about the CIA involvement
witth the introduction of crack in the ghettos already or how
cocaine played such a large part during the Iran-Contra
scandal!!

i think one of the extreme examples of this in the past was
the sale of LSD at hippy festivals like Woodstock (again, way
before i was born) to pay for the DDT they were spraying 
over Vietnam!!

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In a message dated 1/22/01 10:17:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< hippy
 
 
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are you calling me a hippy micah?

I WILL WRESTLE YOU. AND I WILL WIN!

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> Yes.. there are other factors besides the media, but the 
> media IS *one*
> 
> and I did say "maybe these kids.."  meaning..  that could be 
> one possible way 
> they are getting into the scene.. and into drugs. There are 
> lots of other 
> ways kids are getting involved too..
woah there, i didn't disagree with you, i was just saying we need to
accept more blame, even if it isn't our own personal faults.
if we are supposed to be part of a scene, it is our responsibility to uphold
whatever image we think its about.  so i dont like the attitude of sitting
around
talking about the decline of the scene and ending it there.
sure i'll make fun of some crackheads as much as anyone here, but i am not
gonna talk
about how shitty the scene is because if i were to put that much work into
saving it
i'd just fucking start something new.

> I just know to many people that dont need drugs to say that 
> the media is 
> portraying the scene correctly.
and i would say that a "scene" should be taken literally
our scene is only that which we portray to others, who cares
what its like inside, who cares about those that don't need drugs
to say that the media is being false isn't going to help
we need to be more responsible for each other
if thats what we are after
yes there are many people i know, myself included, that can have
a great time sober and safe.
but thats not what the media is talking about, and that alone doesnt
mean the bad things aren't happening

> Yes, they are correct in some aspects... and some they are 
> not. Have they 
> ever mentioned the music?? besides some rant on *loud techno 
> music and drugs* 
>  ??? 
the media is not out to do an expose on the popular sides of raves,
they are there to get ratings, and dangerous things get viewers
dateline doesn't do exposes on rave djs, they do them on things
that are fucked up in the world
please, who cares about the fucking media's portrayal of the music,
the drug use and danger is the issue, not the music.

> blah.. I dont want to get some dumb thread started on media.. 
> unless someone 
> has connections to dateline.
well i dont want to talk about it because i dont really believe in any of
what im saying

> I dont think I wasted my time on this one.. if at least one 
> person commented.
i'd disagree if im the only one to comment


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Subject: [mw] more military corruption!...Re: [mw] truth on drugs...jacob's ladder...

and let the record show that it was the US that had
sold CHINA the missile technology before Clinton
was in office!!

i can't believe they actually tried pinning it on Wen
Ho Lee...how evil!!...especially when everybody 
within the intelligence community knew that Deutsch,
the ex-CIA director was leaking mad information from
his home PC for God knows how much money!!

god damned, white horse of conquering with all that
forbidden fruit of knowledge!!...greed and deception
at it's highest level?!

and who had to pay for their sins?!?!

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> << hippy
>  
>  
>  never failing to reduce mw-raves to name-calling
>   >>
> 
> 
> are you calling me a hippy micah?
> 
> I WILL WRESTLE YOU. AND I WILL WIN!
yes ima callin youa hippy you hippy!
you wanna wrestle? why does everyone insist wrestling is a way to solve our
problems?!
we need to have a media expose and handle this like men and women...
violence wont solve your problems
thats what drugs are for!


this is sarcasm
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In a message dated 1/22/01 10:37:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< why does everyone insist wrestling is a way to solve our
 problems?!

BECAUSE!   I just watched "Ally McBeal"  and this woman's father wanted to 
wrestle her boyfriend.


THATS WHY HUKKER.  NO OTHER REASON
so there.... 
biaatch
=P





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 violence wont solve your problems
 thats what drugs are for!
 
 
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> BECAUSE!   I just watched "Ally McBeal"  and this woman's 
> father wanted to 
> wrestle her boyfriend.
> 
> 
> THATS WHY HUKKER.  NO OTHER REASON
> so there.... 
> biaatch
oh
well hippy, maybe you shouldn't listen to media so much and instead make
love not war



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Subject: RE: [mw] more military corruption!...Re: [mw] truth on drugs...ja
	cob's ladder...

> god damned, white horse of conquering with all that
> forbidden fruit of knowledge!!...greed and deception
> at it's highest level?!
GOD DAMMNED CLICHES! THEY WILL BE THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!

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In a message dated 1/22/01 10:43:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
micah.topping@eds.com writes:

<< oh
 well hippy, maybe you shouldn't listen to media so much and instead make
 love not war
  >>


Ok poopster.


I don't make love.

I  F!&%

why dont you get on irc anymore whore?

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> << oh
>  well hippy, maybe you shouldn't listen to media so much and 
> instead make
>  love not war
>   >>
> 
> 
> Ok poopster.
i prefer poopscooter

> I don't make love.
> 
> I  F!&%
oooh yeah...


> why dont you get on irc anymore whore?
because of work mostly, my hours are completely fucked lately.
plus if im not on irc people will think i have a real life

is it working?!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> you wanna wrestle? why does everyone insist wrestling is a way to solve
our
> problems?!

because it is.  TO THE MUD PIT WITH YOU TWO!!!!!

backing up in the thread a bit, i don't think it will make people happy if
you leave the list, Candice.  hell, you even got that sheister Tony Sebion
to quit selling pee for two seconds and say he was begining to like ya.

While several of us think 14/15 is a little young to attend parties, i think
this was voiced out of concern you MIGHT be going for all the wrong reasons.
that's not to say you are going for the wrong reasons, it was just people
being concerned.  Most of us are able to overcome age differences on this
list.  the list spans quite an age gap as it is (with folks like me pushing
the upper strata.)  hell, i was as suprised as could be at last summers net
party when i found out that nick christ was a 17 year old from new berlin
with a mullet.

/me can't believe nick cut the mullet

 "I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com





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At least nick had the guts to grow one in the first place...wuss


whendee

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From mw-raves-return-15075-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 04:33:16 2001
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heh, i'm just warming her up to see if i can get her to deal my pee to her
friends.  (its a long story candice, stick around - you'll pick up on it).

ive enjoyed the issues you brought to the table, whether you meant to or
not.  having some younger people on the list actively posting will have the
same benefits of having those people at parties - the fresh perspective they
have on the scene that the people on this list, even at best, can find kind
of tired at least occasionally.  while whether it might be ok that a 14/15
year old attend parties and participate in "rave-related recreation" is
something universally the  list seems to be against, i don't think anyone
here believes you're too young to be on the list and add to the discussion.

to be parental for a second, if you knew that candice could either fall in
with the mw-crowd, or another typical rave posse, wouldn't you think it
better for things if she stayed here with us where its safe?  we could even
get her into hardcore!

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: William Bunyan 

backing up in the thread a bit, i don't think it will make people happy if
you leave the list, Candice.  hell, you even got that sheister Tony Sebion
to quit selling pee for two seconds and say he was begining to like ya.

While several of us think 14/15 is a little young to attend parties, i think
this was voiced out of concern you MIGHT be going for all the wrong reasons.
that's not to say you are going for the wrong reasons, it was just people
being concerned.  Most of us are able to overcome age differences on this
list.  the list spans quite an age gap as it is (with folks like me pushing
the upper strata.)  hell, i was as suprised as could be at last summers net
party when i found out that nick christ was a 17 year old from new berlin
with a mullet.

/me can't believe nick cut the mullet

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i'm commenting but not posting.   I'm trying to watch a movie and the phone
keeps ringing.

so there,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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> I dont think I wasted my time on this one.. if at least one 
> person commented.
i'd disagree if im the only one to comment

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From mw-raves-return-15078-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 04:47:16 2001
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Oh shush it you HIPPY.


tad


At 10:47 PM 1/22/01 EST, TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 1/22/01 10:43:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
>micah.topping@eds.com writes:
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><< oh
> well hippy, maybe you shouldn't listen to media so much and instead make
> love not war
>  >>
>
>
>Ok poopster.
>
>
>I don't make love.
>
>I  F!&%
>
>why dont you get on irc anymore whore?
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>was she the girl he wrote all those songs about?

damn i dunno but if that's the case she shoulda gotten some fat checks cos 
that guy rode the angst and sorrow bullet train straight to the bank!

mk

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Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

I saw an ad for them on the L when I went up there to help my cousin move
in.  Chicago is ok.  The Daley Riech is what I don't like and the fact
that it's next to murder capital USA Gary Indiana.  However I may end up
taking a job there since it is close to home and has a large financial
district. 

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> I'll agree with you there. Although, I don't own a gun and don't plan to
> anytime soon, I think it's a fundamental right to be able to defend
> yourself. I participated in a gun control rally in downtown Chicago, as the
> opposition, and we were made to stand behind barriers, while the gun control
> crowd (a large percentage were elementary school kids bussed in) were free
> to roam the plaza. Neverthless, my bullhorn came in handy as Mayor Daley got
> up to speak on the evils of guns. I quickly turned on the bullhorn and
> yelled - "Even the hypocrite Mayor Daley has armed guards, why should he be
> able to defend himself while you cannot..." at that point one of Chicago's
> finest tried to get in my face, but instead of disuading me, I simply yelled
> in the bullhorn "see all these cops around you. why do they carry arms? i'll
> tell you why. because they know that criminals carry weapons, and will
> always carry weapons no matter what the laws are. that's what makes them
> criminals." I had a cool sign with Adolph Hitler doing a sieg hiel that said
> "Raise your hand if you are for gun control." All in all, it had to be the
> funnest hour long lunch break i've ever had. and all thanks to the Chicago
> Libertarian party...
> 
> Noble
> 
> -no i am not a right winger..
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rvkeller@iupui.edu [mailto:rvkeller@iupui.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:19 PM
> To: Noble Long
> Cc: 'Matt Murphy'; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> 
> 
> I am not talking rural, even in the burbs it's city living so to speak.
> The larger the area, the more handouts people want.  People are willing to
> scarifice certain rights (in LA and NYC guns thinking they are horrible
> killing machines--which their own curropt cops get issued).  Many cops in
> the cities are more apt to be anti citizens owning guns.  They want to be
> that 'thin blue line'.  I went to the gun show and saw rural cops with AKs
> and the like.  However some of the cops I work with think they should just
> ban them.  They don't care cause they will always have a gun, their duty
> weapon.
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:
> 
> > Maybe, he's saying it's easier to be self-sufficient - grow your own food,
> > make your own clothes, roll your own cigars, etc. in the country, which I
> > could agree with, although it's not impossible to do this in cities.
> Living
> > in a studio flat on the 23rd floor might hamper things a bit.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Murphy [mailto:murph@mr.net]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:26 PM
> > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> > 
> > 
> > > This country
> > > needs to come back to _personal responsibility_, however as more and
> more
> > > people move to cities, they will foolishly rely on the government to
> > > protect them.
> > 
> >     What the hell does moving to cities have anything to do with it???
> Lemme
> > guess, you live in the country? (I live in Minneapolis proper)
> > 
> > Matt Murphy
> > sound.light.motion
> > murph@mr.net
> > 
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Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-Rave Offense

I like.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, darw_n wrote:

> the American Dream is now the American Demand...
> 
> That's a quote of mine that I always use...
> 
> darw_n
> 
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
> 
> search for "djdarwin" on napster
> www.sphereproductions.com
> www.mannequinodd.com
> www.mp3.com/darw_n
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Noble Long" <nlong@Zethcon.com>
> To: <rvkeller@iupui.edu>; "pixie" <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com>
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> 
> > Isn't this what America is all about these days - "It's not my fault!"
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rvkeller@iupui.edu [mailto:rvkeller@iupui.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:14 PM
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:
> > > it truly sucks for those who have to take the fall for
> > > the actions of ignorant kids who can't seem to
> > 
> > what truly sucks is that this happens in America.
> > 
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Subject: Re: [mw] rvkeller

I don't disagree with this.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, NChrist wrote:

> /me wonders how this <rvkeller@iupui.edu> fellow ever got so stupid...
> 
> /me keeps reading his emails...
> 
> <rvkeller@iupui.edu>: "However some of the cops I work with think they
> should just ban them."
> 
> Ahhhhh, that explains a lot.
> 
> Fuck the police.
> 
> -- 
> -Nicholas Christ, still not loving police since 1983
>  panam@mail.execpc.com
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From mw-raves-return-15083-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 05:18:00 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR xfl cheerleaders

you notice that angel veil is in the ad for the xfl 
cheerleaders?  personally i thought the enforcer girls looked kinda weak 
compared to some of the other teams' - notably birmingham.  :D

mk

At 02:32 AM 1/22/01 -0600, William Bunyan wrote:
>i just watched my tape of wwf smackdown taped this past week in chicago, and
>they debuted the chicago enforcer cheerleaders.
>
>one thing had me konfused.  NONE of the cheerleaders were chicagaland
>mw-raves hotties.  are you guys just too busy with your day jobs?
>
>just wondering,
>
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>Don't let Twisted Sister be the only one to "Fight for your right, to
>party!".

twisted sister said "we're not gonna take it, anymoooore".  the above quote 
came from the beastie boys.  ;P

mk

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From mw-raves-return-15085-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 05:27:40 2001
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True.  But I think if Ajax can get past Arsenal, they'll have a shot
at the cup.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->you notice that angel veil is in the ad for the xfl 
-->cheerleaders?  personally i thought the enforcer girls looked kinda weak 
-->compared to some of the other teams' - notably birmingham.  :D
-->
-->mk
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Yes, unfortunatly persuing my medical degree has hindered my pro-cheerleading career. It's tragic...
I hate to say it, but I think this will probably suck just as much as regualar NFL football, but it will be set to a Limp Bizket soundtrack with "edgier" players and more nekkid chicks. *blargh*
erikka
  >i just watched my tape of wwf smackdown taped this past week in chicago, and
>they debuted the chicago enforcer cheerleaders.
>
>one thing had me konfused. NONE of the cheerleaders were chicagaland
>mw-raves hotties. are you guys just too busy with your day jobs?
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Subject: [mw] New Mix from BLAIR BROWN -- House of Babylon Dj Collective

Blair Brown, Chicago house jock extraordinaire,
has a new mix on Napster entitled "AIN"T NOTHING
WRONG WITH DRINKING"... it's an excursion into 
deep house that will get your soul flowing and your
booty going!

Check it out!

Part of the Babylon Dj Collective, you can book
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317 496 7275 -- thanks!


-Physix Records

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THE FOLLOWING IS A MESSAGE FROM TREVOR OF TEKNOMAFIA
AND YES!FEST.  PLEASE DIRECT YOUR INQUIRIES TO HIM VIA
TEKNOMAFIA@AOL.COM.   THANK YOU.  PHYSIX MULTI MEDIA,
INCLUDING PHYSIX RECORDS AND PHYSIX B.A.M ARE NOT
AFFILIATED WITH TEKNOMAFIA OR YES!FEST AND CAN IN 
NO WAY< SHAP OR FORM SPEAK FOR OR ON BEHALF OF THEM.
THANK YOU!

Begin Transmission:

The Teknomafia Family announces the official premier of our new website.

www.teknomafia.com

We have over a decade of experience in the underground electronic music scene 
& a nationwide presence with agents in the Midwest, NYC, Florida & a new main 
office opening in Hollywood, California this summer.  Our roster consists of 
headliners from the US, Europe, Japan & beyond!!!

Here you will find booking information, biographies & pics of our performers 
along with a convenient method to submit your artist requests.  Additionally, 
you will notice Teknomafia is now more than just bookings & management with 
the expansion of our team to include Flyer & Website Design services, Event 
Security, Event Consultation, Tour Information, & an expanded Merchandise 
page featuring original music & mixes by our artists.  Clothing, stickers, 
etc., will be added there shortly.

We have something to offer everyone whether you are a Promoter, DJ, or just a 
party kid that loves the music. We welcome the opportunity to serve you! 

-Trevor
www.teknomafia.com


:End Transmission


-Brandon B. Harris
PHYSiX Booking & Artist Management
House of Babylon BROductions of Indpls

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>True.  But I think if Ajax can get past Arsenal, they'll have a shot
>at the cup.

birmingham, ALABAMA !!

mk, innit

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Subject: [mw] DIODE MUSIC SUMMER TOUR

June and July will see witness to the arrival of
three of techno's more prolific producer/Djs:

Mhonolink

Johan Bacto

Hardcell

>From their more cerebral releases on Skunkworks to
their crunchy beatin' tracks on Zync, these three 
individuals are the essence of techno -- innovative,
yet still grounded in your dancing shoes.

We are proud to be hosting their arrival into the US
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All inquiries can be directed to PhysixBAM@aol.com
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Subject: Re: [mw] back in the day

china grrl.  heh.  she used to shag trent reznor.

mk

>That was, what was her name, ummm, she lives in san fran now I think, she
>was from cleveland...
>
>Stevie T actually knows her (im not joking either;)...


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>From: "Freeze" <unknownfreeze@eircom.net>
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>10. Keep telling the same person they have bad breath even if they don't,
>and then punch them in the face.
>
>9. Announce in a meeting that you have AIDS. After everyone gives the
>sympathy remarks, tell everyone you were joking and call them a bunch of
>queers.
>
>8. Before a meeting, fill your mouth with custard. In the meeting pretend
>you're hacking up a greener, spit it into a glass and hand it to the person
>next to you and say "Beat that ya bollocks".
>
>7. Inform a male colleague that he would make a great rent-boy, then piss in
>his coffee and tell him he needs a good shag up the arse.
>
>6. Always walk around with a big smile on your face and one hand down the
>front of your trousers.
>
>5. Answer every question with "Fucked if I know...", then call the person a
>fucking cunt.
>
>4. Brag about the fact that you have an STD.
>
>3. Run around the office with your prick out spraying piss everywhere
>yelling "It wont stop! God help me it wont stop!" Then when it does, look
>down and go "Oh!"
>
>2. Ask to borrow a colleague's expensive pen - take it to the  toilet and
>stick it up your arse - return it to the person and tell them that it smells
>bad and tell them to smell it. When they say that it smells, say "It
>should - I had it up my arse"
>
>1. Shit on your office floor and when someone comes in and sees it tell them
>it's the fake rubber kind. When they try to pick it up and realise that
>their hand is full of real shit - laugh and embarrass them in front of
>everyone.
>
>--
>Darkest Regards
>-  Sean Cooper  -
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>Http://www.ucpzone.com/unitlabs/
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>
>
>HardheadZ - http://www.egroups.com/groups/hardheadz
>
>The worlds No.1 music shit-talkers list!
>
>
>
>--
>Tim Resistor - Ruffneck Playaz Crew
>aim: DJResistor http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com


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word, this party was very enjoyable.  poor ross got his ass beaten!  delta 
9 is a pretty funny motherfucker with a camera, and miss biobooster has 
similar talents in the medium of megaphone.  is megaphone a medium?  who 
cares.  i got to see some mw-heads and whatnot...good time.  my friend that 
went with me was expecting something a little different, i 
think.  heh.  it's nice to see events not fitting people's pre-conceived 
notions again.  it seems like, in the long long ago, that that happened 
every weekend.

i'm happy to see people trying to do different things for the post-rave 
scene.  the big stale blowouts are obviously done with.  this little 
shindig represents one path out of many that the future could take.  it's 
promising.

mk

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i would like to take this oportunity to point out that mike is a pussy and
was gone from the party by the time we got there....why ???

-THE bitch iySyS-


: word, this party was very enjoyable.  poor ross got his ass beaten!  delta
: 9 is a pretty funny motherfucker with a camera, and miss biobooster has
: similar talents in the medium of megaphone.  is megaphone a medium?  who
: cares.  i got to see some mw-heads and whatnot...good time.  my friend
that
: went with me was expecting something a little different, i
: think.  heh.  it's nice to see events not fitting people's pre-conceived
: notions again.  it seems like, in the long long ago, that that happened
: every weekend.
:
: i'm happy to see people trying to do different things for the post-rave
: scene.  the big stale blowouts are obviously done with.  this little
: shindig represents one path out of many that the future could take.  it's
: promising.
:
: mk
:
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>i would like to take this oportunity to point out that mike is a pussy and
>was gone from the party by the time we got there....why ???

cause my friend was itching to leave and i had given up on you guys showing 
up since it was already nearly 1:30.  sounds like we just barely missed 
each other, tho.  doh.  :(

mk, is a pussy anyway

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> i would like to take this oportunity to point out that mike is a pussy and
> was gone from the party by the time we got there....why ???

maybe cause we didn't get there till after one?

...eh, he's still a pansy.

/j

oh yeah, had a bitchin time while i was there. haven't heard hardcore in
chicago for a while - too long. kind of reminded me of barn parties,
without the barn, and the porta potty, and the burning boats...ok, i'll
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 AH SHUT THE FUCK UP TONY!!
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

+i'm commenting but not posting.   I'm trying to watch a movie and the phone
+keeps ringing.
+
+so there,
+-t
+
+-----Original Message-----
+From: Topping, Micah 
+Subject: RE: [mw] Re: i dont care anymore.
+
+> I dont think I wasted my time on this one.. if at least one 
+> person commented.
+i'd disagree if im the only one to comment
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I SHOUDLS STOP WHILE I'M BEHIND JHAIMMEIE WAYS....
BUT I'M LISTINING TO SONGS IN THE KEY OF LIFE AND I COULDN'T RESIST

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ahhhh...advanced tricknology...i'd taken the train from minot ND to st paul, 
and jumped into a car on my way to chicago where i stayed in a hotel, and 
then off to muskegon, michigan, where i was visiting my grandma n aunt when 
that party happened.  in fact, i was at 'adventure' theme park (or some shit) 
celbrating my sister's birthday on that grim august of 1998.  and, ohhhh the 
friends who went to that thing (in nordeast?) who told me about it when i 
called them long distance the next day to ask how it was...and then i missed 
better living through, cause i was in hazen, ND visiting my grandpa and 
uncles...and i was supposed to be there again this year for trick, but i 
woulda spent my 18th bday in the backseat of a car driving through north 
dakota, which woulda been WAY no good.  dammit.  i wish i coulda gone to 
advanced trick...aaron.  ps: my favorite mpls party was all mixed up.  dunno 
why, but it was great.

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::deep sigh::  loooooveee...man.  i really miss the armory.  and the east 
bethel ice arena (think how many parties were at either of those two 
locations in the span of a single year).  DAMN YOU FAULTY PROMOTERS!!  DAMN 
YOU TO HELLLLL...aaron.

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>     Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but t'ain't no break
>circles 'round here! =]

heh, one of my most hated subsets of the current crop of raver kids are the 
ones that take up room with their masturbatory dance circles at raves, when 
they can't even break for a shit, and then act like they are real hip hop 
kids.  i've mentioned before the hilarity of the 15-year old suburban kid 
in the new rawkus hoodie that their mom bought them pontificating about 
"the four pillars" because they think it somehow elevates them above joe 
average raver.  fucking useless morons, the lot of them.

mk

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In a message dated 1/23/01 3:19:16 AM Central Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< heh, one of my most hated subsets of the current crop of raver kids are 
the 
 ones that take up room with their masturbatory dance circles at raves, when 
 they can't even break for a shit, and then act like they are real hip hop 
 kids.  i've mentioned before the hilarity of the 15-year old suburban kid 
 in the new rawkus hoodie that their mom bought them pontificating about 
 "the four pillars" because they think it somehow elevates them above joe 
 average raver.  fucking useless morons, the lot of them. >>

wellll...ooookay thennnn...but think about the armory and east bethel.  dont 
you miss them? aaron.

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> let me preface this review by saying that rockford has an extraordinarily
> ugly rave-going population, and most of them were pretty fuckin rude. i
> would also like to add that events advertised as being in chicago should
> not be in rockford.

I agree, 45 minutes from chicago?

> ok. we didn't get there till two, right as surgeon went on. i thoroughly
> enjoyed his set, which contained way more variation than i expected. i
> danced through almost the whole thing, except for the dozens of times
> people would literally push, pull, kick, bump, or otherwise move me out of
> a particular space so they could dance in it. we were there an hour and a
> half and i lost track of how many times this happened after about twenty
> or so. no respect for personal space, just rudeness. maybe it's cause the
> crowd was on average 16 or 17 i'd say, and i just haven't been raving much
> the last year or two anymore. but man, i seriously had to restrain myself
> from kicking some retarded raver ass many times.

I know i went up on the stage and just gave up after awhile, there wasn't
enough space to do anything but stand there, which was what everyone was
doing... plus someone pinched my ass, and i'm still trying to figure out how
i should feel about that... two days later

the basement was pretty cool except i kept getting lost and it was too
crowded as well... i really didn't get a chance to do anything more then
stand around all night because i didn't want to bother with the lack of
space

I'm assuming this space was all fucked up because boogie tribe got it at the
last minute, something about having to change spaces because of high
demand... anyways it definitly wasn't ideal, having the entry into the venue
and the walkway downstairs right next to eachother was just dumb... i'm
certain they could've used some other exit as an entry...

this so far was the worst midwest party i've been too... i went with a
someone from cali and we left at about 2:30, and she was none too happy...
i'm hoping to try and make it up to her by finding something better in the
next couple of weeks...

late
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michael knight always tellin it like it is ;)

sometimes lol

plur (little plur),

jbrick

>>   Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but t'ain't no break
>>circles 'round here! =]
>
>heh, one of my most hated subsets of the current crop of raver kids 
>are the ones that take up room with their masturbatory dance circles 
>at raves, when they can't even break for a shit, and then act like 
>they are real hip hop kids.  i've mentioned before the hilarity of 
>the 15-year old suburban kid in the new rawkus hoodie that their mom 
>bought them pontificating about "the four pillars" because they 
>think it somehow elevates them above joe average raver.  fucking 
>useless morons, the lot of them.
>
>mk
>
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>10. Keep telling the same person they have bad breath even if they don't,
>and then punch them in the face.
>
>9. Announce in a meeting that you have AIDS. After everyone gives the
>sympathy remarks, tell everyone you were joking and call them a bunch of
>queers.
>
>8. Before a meeting, fill your mouth with custard. In the meeting pretend
>you're hacking up a greener, spit it into a glass and hand it to the person
>next to you and say "Beat that ya bollocks".
>
>7. Inform a male colleague that he would make a great rent-boy, then piss in
>his coffee and tell him he needs a good shag up the arse.
>
>6. Always walk around with a big smile on your face and one hand down the
>front of your trousers.
>
>5. Answer every question with "Fucked if I know...", then call the person a
>fucking cunt.
>
>4. Brag about the fact that you have an STD.
>
>3. Run around the office with your prick out spraying piss everywhere
>yelling "It wont stop! God help me it wont stop!" Then when it does, look
>down and go "Oh!"
>
>2. Ask to borrow a colleague's expensive pen - take it to the  toilet and
>stick it up your arse - return it to the person and tell them that it smells
>bad and tell them to smell it. When they say that it smells, say "It
>should - I had it up my arse"
>
>1. Shit on your office floor and when someone comes in and sees it tell them
>it's the fake rubber kind. When they try to pick it up and realise that
>their hand is full of real shit - laugh and embarrass them in front of
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OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com wrote:

>  ps: my favorite mpls party was all mixed up.  dunno
> why, but it was great.

that party was so lame I had to get fucked up to live with myself for being
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Make it 15+. I'm 17 myself but i personally think 15 is fair. I can see how
any younger wouldn't be too right.... but 15+ is fine. If not, I can make WI
and CA fake IDs that'll work most anywhere. For a price. The youngin's need
a rave.... let's give em a massive...  a Cali Massive.... i'll stick to my
nice undergrounds and semi's. and please, Rave sober.... i smoke bud and do
all sorts of other mess but raving sober helps The Scene.... don't let me
see any of you on TV drooling like a dumbass talking about how pretty the
lights are. I'll bitch-slap you... You've all been warned.

My 2 cents.

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>
> --- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> >
> > dude, ever heard of a fake id??
>
> Tell it to this person!
> XtINkeRbeLlX11@aol.com
>
> I could care less if you have a fake Id. more power to
> you..But the event Is 17 + considering the way other
> cities have been handling buisness I think its quite
> generous!
> 17+ is extremely fare!
>
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Subject: [mw] guiness for breakfast?

is that so wrong?
am tv is making me sick.
<3laura

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Will you marry me??

try this.

1 part Guiness Stout to 1 part dark Roast Coffee

now that's an eye opener!

Noble

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is that so wrong?
am tv is making me sick.
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Subject: Re: [mw] guiness for breakfast?

well, i started out with my usual chocolate malt slimfast, and, well....
then fox 59 in the morning started playing sublime and i kinda freaked out....

40 oz to freedom is the only chance i have, to feel good even tho i feel 
bad....

MORNIN!
sauce

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Dear friend of liberty,

The gavel hits.  Its piercing crack commands the room.  History is made.

The International Criminal Court (ICC) is now in session -- and our
country will never be the same.

"In July of 1998, 120 nations met in Rome and voted to endorse an
international criminal court.  According to its own terms, when the
treaty is ratified by 60 nations, it will be capable of exerting
universal jurisdiction over every human being on the planet.  This type
of criminal court has been on the wish list of the United Nations since
1947."  -- Dr. James Hirsen, 1/5/01

"Once created, the international court will give the U.N. the mechanism
it needs to enforce its global 'laws' against American citizens.  All
Americans concerned with our sovereignty as a nation should be very
alarmed by this latest development."  -- Congressman Ron Paul, 1/8/01

"In short, the treaty gives the ICC the right to try and imprison U.S.
citizens, including our military and other government officers, even
[if] we have refused to sign it, let alone ratify it."  -- former
Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, 7/3/00

"On the International Criminal Court treaty, 'the [Defense] Department's
position has been clear,' a Pentagon official said.  'We were against
signing it and still are.'" -- Washington Post, 1/1/01

"Casey [Lee A. Casey, a former Justice Department official who
specializes in international law] said he opposes the creation of the
permanent International Criminal Court under the auspices of the United
Nations because he believes its powers are too extensive, and could
subject American citizens to trial without allowing them the rights and
protections they are guaranteed by the Constitution."  -- Washington
Post, 1/1/01

"National sovereignty, which means that Americans are answerable to no
one but their own government and their own laws, should never be
compromised.  The creation of a permanent, international war-crimes
tribunal certainly would compromise the national sovereignty of every
country on Earth."  -- Charley Reese, 1/11/01

The Liberty Committee is indeed very alarmed by the International
Criminal Court.  According to recent press reports, President Bush is
alarmed also.  Today, The Liberty Committee is launching a nationwide
petition drive asking President Bush to rescind the signature of the
United States to the International Criminal Court treaty that former
President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000.

To complete the on-line petition, go to
http://www.thelibertycommittee.org. <http://www.thelibertycommittee.org.>
Please ask family and friends to do
the same.  There is a printable version of the petition that we ask you
to print, copy and distribute to people who don't use the Internet.  All
completed and received petitions, on-line and printed, will be presented
to the White House.

The International Criminal Court will consider itself to be formally and
officially established after only 60 of the world's 161 countries ratify
the Rome Statute of the ICC.  As of today, 27 countries have ratified
the treaty.   The ICC needs just 33 more ratifying countries, from
among the 112 which have signed but not yet ratified, to claim
jurisdiction over all 161 countries and their citizens.

"It is my fervent hope that ...a large majority of United Nations Member
States will have signed and ratified [the ICC treaty], so that the Court
will have unquestioned authority and the widest possible jurisdiction."
-- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, 7/18/98

"Only hours before the Dec. 31 [2000] deadline, Bill Clinton gave the
United Nations its most significant victory so far in its relentless
quest for global governance:  the International Criminal Court."
-- Henry Lamb, 1/3/01

Supporters of the ICC have worked for years to establish this new world
court.  It is now time for us to do our work. Please sign our petition
and ask others to do the same.

Kent Snyder
The Liberty Committee
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dude...

I have to go to school here, but explain to me why you think an
international court is wrong now??

It's for war crimes and crimes against humanity, and if you think any one,
including Americans, are exempt from this, then you are...

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>
>
> Dear friend of liberty,
>
> The gavel hits.  Its piercing crack commands the room.  History is made.
>
> The International Criminal Court (ICC) is now in session -- and our
> country will never be the same.
>
> "In July of 1998, 120 nations met in Rome and voted to endorse an
> international criminal court.  According to its own terms, when the
> treaty is ratified by 60 nations, it will be capable of exerting
> universal jurisdiction over every human being on the planet.  This type
> of criminal court has been on the wish list of the United Nations since
> 1947."  -- Dr. James Hirsen, 1/5/01
>
> "Once created, the international court will give the U.N. the mechanism
> it needs to enforce its global 'laws' against American citizens.  All
> Americans concerned with our sovereignty as a nation should be very
> alarmed by this latest development."  -- Congressman Ron Paul, 1/8/01
>
> "In short, the treaty gives the ICC the right to try and imprison U.S.
> citizens, including our military and other government officers, even
> [if] we have refused to sign it, let alone ratify it."  -- former
> Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, 7/3/00
>
> "On the International Criminal Court treaty, 'the [Defense] Department's
> position has been clear,' a Pentagon official said.  'We were against
> signing it and still are.'" -- Washington Post, 1/1/01
>
> "Casey [Lee A. Casey, a former Justice Department official who
> specializes in international law] said he opposes the creation of the
> permanent International Criminal Court under the auspices of the United
> Nations because he believes its powers are too extensive, and could
> subject American citizens to trial without allowing them the rights and
> protections they are guaranteed by the Constitution."  -- Washington
> Post, 1/1/01
>
> "National sovereignty, which means that Americans are answerable to no
> one but their own government and their own laws, should never be
> compromised.  The creation of a permanent, international war-crimes
> tribunal certainly would compromise the national sovereignty of every
> country on Earth."  -- Charley Reese, 1/11/01
>
> The Liberty Committee is indeed very alarmed by the International
> Criminal Court.  According to recent press reports, President Bush is
> alarmed also.  Today, The Liberty Committee is launching a nationwide
> petition drive asking President Bush to rescind the signature of the
> United States to the International Criminal Court treaty that former
> President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000.
>
> To complete the on-line petition, go to
> http://www.thelibertycommittee.org. <http://www.thelibertycommittee.org.>
> Please ask family and friends to do
> the same.  There is a printable version of the petition that we ask you
> to print, copy and distribute to people who don't use the Internet.  All
> completed and received petitions, on-line and printed, will be presented
> to the White House.
>
> The International Criminal Court will consider itself to be formally and
> officially established after only 60 of the world's 161 countries ratify
> the Rome Statute of the ICC.  As of today, 27 countries have ratified
> the treaty.   The ICC needs just 33 more ratifying countries, from
> among the 112 which have signed but not yet ratified, to claim
> jurisdiction over all 161 countries and their citizens.
>
> "It is my fervent hope that ...a large majority of United Nations Member
> States will have signed and ratified [the ICC treaty], so that the Court
> will have unquestioned authority and the widest possible jurisdiction."
> -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, 7/18/98
>
> "Only hours before the Dec. 31 [2000] deadline, Bill Clinton gave the
> United Nations its most significant victory so far in its relentless
> quest for global governance:  the International Criminal Court."
> -- Henry Lamb, 1/3/01
>
> Supporters of the ICC have worked for years to establish this new world
> court.  It is now time for us to do our work. Please sign our petition
> and ask others to do the same.
>
> Kent Snyder
> The Liberty Committee
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Subject: RE: [mw] truth on drugs...jacob's ladder...was Re: [mw] back in t
	he day


i am so sick of asians being used as a scapegoat,
paying for the sins of greedy evil corrupt white folk!!

Yes, obviously the solution is to blanket stereotype millions of people!!

like i really attended five years of an ivy league college
to be racial profiled for some bullshit!!

Does an ivy league college guarantee you success in life? Sounds like you
were handed a silver spoon and then got upset when it made your mouth turn
green...


...lord knows they
tried like hell by messing with my career and keeping me
unemployed as much as possible to try to push me into
it!!

So you continue to use race as an excuse for things not happening in your
life? Sounds like a copout to me.


for the true source of drugs, rent: JACOB"S LADDER!!

or check this site... 
http://www.parascope.com/gallery/galleryitems/edgewood/edgewood.htm

mind you, this all happened waaay before i was born!!

you were all guinea pigs!!...toys for the military...lol...in
fact, you actually paid to be guinea pigs...pfft, all this time
by buying illegal drugs, you've been contributing to the
covert operations of the US Military!!...i.e. investing in 
World War III!...as if y'all didn't know about the CIA involvement
witth the introduction of crack in the ghettos already or how
cocaine played such a large part during the Iran-Contra
scandal!!

Well, everyone knows that the government is a major source of drugs coming
into this country, don't they? Problem - Reaction - Solution is a profit
making / control taking machine.

i think one of the extreme examples of this in the past was
the sale of LSD at hippy festivals like Woodstock (again, way
before i was born) to pay for the DDT they were spraying 
over Vietnam!!

I find it ironic that the government was practically giving away LSD at
college campuses in the 60's while it was still legal, and then used the
psychedelic drug culture as an excuse for the war on drugs a few years
later. Makes you wondered how many government sponsored raves we got going
on today.

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Subject: RE: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??

When was the last time you voted for your UN representative? When was the
last time you served on an international jury? I don't think Americans are
exempt from anything. You give me a democratically governed UN, and I'll be
happy to go along with it. Until then, all I see is fascism using "peace"
and "crimes against humanity" to grab more and more control.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Noble

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??


dude...

I have to go to school here, but explain to me why you think an
international court is wrong now??

It's for war crimes and crimes against humanity, and if you think any one,
including Americans, are exempt from this, then you are...

darw_n

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To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
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Subject: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??


>
>
> Dear friend of liberty,
>
> The gavel hits.  Its piercing crack commands the room.  History is made.
>
> The International Criminal Court (ICC) is now in session -- and our
> country will never be the same.
>
> "In July of 1998, 120 nations met in Rome and voted to endorse an
> international criminal court.  According to its own terms, when the
> treaty is ratified by 60 nations, it will be capable of exerting
> universal jurisdiction over every human being on the planet.  This type
> of criminal court has been on the wish list of the United Nations since
> 1947."  -- Dr. James Hirsen, 1/5/01
>
> "Once created, the international court will give the U.N. the mechanism
> it needs to enforce its global 'laws' against American citizens.  All
> Americans concerned with our sovereignty as a nation should be very
> alarmed by this latest development."  -- Congressman Ron Paul, 1/8/01
>
> "In short, the treaty gives the ICC the right to try and imprison U.S.
> citizens, including our military and other government officers, even
> [if] we have refused to sign it, let alone ratify it."  -- former
> Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, 7/3/00
>
> "On the International Criminal Court treaty, 'the [Defense] Department's
> position has been clear,' a Pentagon official said.  'We were against
> signing it and still are.'" -- Washington Post, 1/1/01
>
> "Casey [Lee A. Casey, a former Justice Department official who
> specializes in international law] said he opposes the creation of the
> permanent International Criminal Court under the auspices of the United
> Nations because he believes its powers are too extensive, and could
> subject American citizens to trial without allowing them the rights and
> protections they are guaranteed by the Constitution."  -- Washington
> Post, 1/1/01
>
> "National sovereignty, which means that Americans are answerable to no
> one but their own government and their own laws, should never be
> compromised.  The creation of a permanent, international war-crimes
> tribunal certainly would compromise the national sovereignty of every
> country on Earth."  -- Charley Reese, 1/11/01
>
> The Liberty Committee is indeed very alarmed by the International
> Criminal Court.  According to recent press reports, President Bush is
> alarmed also.  Today, The Liberty Committee is launching a nationwide
> petition drive asking President Bush to rescind the signature of the
> United States to the International Criminal Court treaty that former
> President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000.
>
> To complete the on-line petition, go to
> http://www.thelibertycommittee.org. <http://www.thelibertycommittee.org.>
> Please ask family and friends to do
> the same.  There is a printable version of the petition that we ask you
> to print, copy and distribute to people who don't use the Internet.  All
> completed and received petitions, on-line and printed, will be presented
> to the White House.
>
> The International Criminal Court will consider itself to be formally and
> officially established after only 60 of the world's 161 countries ratify
> the Rome Statute of the ICC.  As of today, 27 countries have ratified
> the treaty.   The ICC needs just 33 more ratifying countries, from
> among the 112 which have signed but not yet ratified, to claim
> jurisdiction over all 161 countries and their citizens.
>
> "It is my fervent hope that ...a large majority of United Nations Member
> States will have signed and ratified [the ICC treaty], so that the Court
> will have unquestioned authority and the widest possible jurisdiction."
> -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, 7/18/98
>
> "Only hours before the Dec. 31 [2000] deadline, Bill Clinton gave the
> United Nations its most significant victory so far in its relentless
> quest for global governance:  the International Criminal Court."
> -- Henry Lamb, 1/3/01
>
> Supporters of the ICC have worked for years to establish this new world
> court.  It is now time for us to do our work. Please sign our petition
> and ask others to do the same.
>
> Kent Snyder
> The Liberty Committee
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i was kind of hoping for a phone number or something.....
if anyone has it, PUH-LEASE.....

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> except that you look like lou gehrig being
> electrocuted when you dance, you 
> uncoordinated 30 year old mongoloid motherfucker.

coffee burns coming out your nose.

did you know that?
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Does anyone know how I could get ahold of ISS?


Please hit me back! :)

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You can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine....


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> except that you look like lou gehrig being
> electrocuted when you dance, you 
> uncoordinated 30 year old mongoloid motherfucker.

coffee burns coming out your nose.

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> >  ps: my favorite mpls party was all mixed up.  dunno
> > why, but it was great.
>
> that party was so lame I had to get fucked up to live with myself for
being
> there.
>
> emily, who thinks shitty sound + a shitty line up does not = a great
party.

    Haha, agreed, I thought that was a pretty lame party.

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    Our elected officials in turn elect UN representatives. It's a
representative democracy, and yes it is a democratically governed UN. Have
you ever done any reading on the ICC? I'll admit the only reason I did was
for a world politics class, but frankly I don't see what the problem is,
like darw_n said, it's to punish people for violating *international* level
laws against war crimes and the like. It allows the UN to punish the leaders
of countries who violate international law rather than having only things
like "economic sanctions" as punishment. It's about fucking time if you ask
me...

Matt Murphy
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> When was the last time you voted for your UN representative? When was the
> last time you served on an international jury? I don't think Americans are
> exempt from anything. You give me a democratically governed UN, and I'll
be
> happy to go along with it. Until then, all I see is fascism using "peace"
> and "crimes against humanity" to grab more and more control.
>
> Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>
> Noble
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darw_n [mailto:darwin@veriomail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:13 AM
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> Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??
>
>
> dude...
>
> I have to go to school here, but explain to me why you think an
> international court is wrong now??
>
> It's for war crimes and crimes against humanity, and if you think any one,
> including Americans, are exempt from this, then you are...
>
> darw_n
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> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:50 AM
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> >
> >
> > Dear friend of liberty,
> >
> > The gavel hits.  Its piercing crack commands the room.  History is made.
> >
> > The International Criminal Court (ICC) is now in session -- and our
> > country will never be the same.
> >
> > "In July of 1998, 120 nations met in Rome and voted to endorse an
> > international criminal court.  According to its own terms, when the
> > treaty is ratified by 60 nations, it will be capable of exerting
> > universal jurisdiction over every human being on the planet.  This type
> > of criminal court has been on the wish list of the United Nations since
> > 1947."  -- Dr. James Hirsen, 1/5/01
> >
> > "Once created, the international court will give the U.N. the mechanism
> > it needs to enforce its global 'laws' against American citizens.  All
> > Americans concerned with our sovereignty as a nation should be very
> > alarmed by this latest development."  -- Congressman Ron Paul, 1/8/01
> >
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> > signing it and still are.'" -- Washington Post, 1/1/01
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> > specializes in international law] said he opposes the creation of the
> > permanent International Criminal Court under the auspices of the United
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> > subject American citizens to trial without allowing them the rights and
> > protections they are guaranteed by the Constitution."  -- Washington
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> >
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> > one but their own government and their own laws, should never be
> > compromised.  The creation of a permanent, international war-crimes
> > tribunal certainly would compromise the national sovereignty of every
> > country on Earth."  -- Charley Reese, 1/11/01
> >
> > The Liberty Committee is indeed very alarmed by the International
> > Criminal Court.  According to recent press reports, President Bush is
> > alarmed also.  Today, The Liberty Committee is launching a nationwide
> > petition drive asking President Bush to rescind the signature of the
> > United States to the International Criminal Court treaty that former
> > President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000.
> >
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> >
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> > officially established after only 60 of the world's 161 countries ratify
> > the Rome Statute of the ICC.  As of today, 27 countries have ratified
> > the treaty.   The ICC needs just 33 more ratifying countries, from
> > among the 112 which have signed but not yet ratified, to claim
> > jurisdiction over all 161 countries and their citizens.
> >
> > "It is my fervent hope that ...a large majority of United Nations Member
> > States will have signed and ratified [the ICC treaty], so that the Court
> > will have unquestioned authority and the widest possible jurisdiction."
> > -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, 7/18/98
> >
> > "Only hours before the Dec. 31 [2000] deadline, Bill Clinton gave the
> > United Nations its most significant victory so far in its relentless
> > quest for global governance:  the International Criminal Court."
> > -- Henry Lamb, 1/3/01
> >
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> > court.  It is now time for us to do our work. Please sign our petition
> > and ask others to do the same.
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> Satori

that was one hell of a night.

hoo-wee.
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I disagree.. from the stand point of a woman who was
mugged by gun point less than 4 months ago I have
really ben thinking about guns lately.  Most people
think that is the time to go buy a gun... No I hate
them and would freak if I had on in tha
cercumstance... loosing my gun and my life.  MO voted
on concealed weapons recently... The idea scared me. 
I am not willing to carry a gun to protect myself from
my neighbors who with a gun might flip and go too far
one day.  Its not just the criminals I fear its the
everyday Joe who has a stressfull day and tries to
live out "Falling Down."   Seriously The entire nation
is going psycho and I dont want to be there when
someone explodes.  

ALPha

--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> I'll agree with you there. Although, I don't own a
> gun and don't plan to
> anytime soon, I think it's a fundamental right to be
> able to defend
> yourself. I participated in a gun control rally in
> downtown Chicago, as the
> opposition, and we were made to stand behind
> barriers, while the gun control
> crowd (a large percentage were elementary school
> kids bussed in) were free
> to roam the plaza. Neverthless, my bullhorn came in
> handy as Mayor Daley got
> up to speak on the evils of guns. I quickly turned
> on the bullhorn and
> yelled - "Even the hypocrite Mayor Daley has armed
> guards, why should he be
> able to defend himself while you cannot..." at that
> point one of Chicago's
> finest tried to get in my face, but instead of
> disuading me, I simply yelled
> in the bullhorn "see all these cops around you. why
> do they carry arms? i'll
> tell you why. because they know that criminals carry
> weapons, and will
> always carry weapons no matter what the laws are.
> that's what makes them
> criminals." I had a cool sign with Adolph Hitler
> doing a sieg hiel that said
> "Raise your hand if you are for gun control." All in
> all, it had to be the
> funnest hour long lunch break i've ever had. and all
> thanks to the Chicago
> Libertarian party...
> 
> Noble
> 
> -no i am not a right winger..
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rvkeller@iupui.edu [mailto:rvkeller@iupui.edu]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:19 PM
> To: Noble Long
> Cc: 'Matt Murphy'; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> 
> 
> I am not talking rural, even in the burbs it's city
> living so to speak.
> The larger the area, the more handouts people want. 
> People are willing to
> scarifice certain rights (in LA and NYC guns
> thinking they are horrible
> killing machines--which their own curropt cops get
> issued).  Many cops in
> the cities are more apt to be anti citizens owning
> guns.  They want to be
> that 'thin blue line'.  I went to the gun show and
> saw rural cops with AKs
> and the like.  However some of the cops I work with
> think they should just
> ban them.  They don't care cause they will always
> have a gun, their duty
> weapon.
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:
> 
> > Maybe, he's saying it's easier to be
> self-sufficient - grow your own food,
> > make your own clothes, roll your own cigars, etc.
> in the country, which I
> > could agree with, although it's not impossible to
> do this in cities.
> Living
> > in a studio flat on the 23rd floor might hamper
> things a bit.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Murphy [mailto:murph@mr.net]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:26 PM
> > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> > 
> > 
> > > This country
> > > needs to come back to _personal responsibility_,
> however as more and
> more
> > > people move to cities, they will foolishly rely
> on the government to
> > > protect them.
> > 
> >     What the hell does moving to cities have
> anything to do with it???
> Lemme
> > guess, you live in the country? (I live in
> Minneapolis proper)
> > 
> > Matt Murphy
> > sound.light.motion
> > murph@mr.net
> > 
> > 
> >
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>  i got to see some mw-heads and
> whatnot...

nuh-UH!

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    No shit, the armory was a great space, and all I ever heard was bitch
bitch bitch about it, do kids not realize there are only so many warehouses,
armories, and ice arenas in a city? Now we don't have any left and where are
we? FUCKED.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> ::deep sigh::  loooooveee...man.  i really miss the armory.  and the east
> bethel ice arena (think how many parties were at either of those two
> locations in the span of a single year).  DAMN YOU FAULTY PROMOTERS!!
DAMN
> YOU TO HELLLLL...aaron.



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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> You can dance if you want to, you can leave your
> friends behind
> 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't
> dance
> Well they're no friends of mine....

We can go when we want to, the night is young and so
am I
And we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet
and surprise 'em with the victory cry
We can act if want to, if we don't nobody will
And you can act real rude and totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile

hm.
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    Now, is it just me, or has white trash been making a comeback like it's
some great thing to aspire to now? Since when do people *want* to be
ignorant ugly bastards? Weren't we trying to head the other direction?

    -- thoroughly confused,

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> Yes, unfortunatly persuing my medical degree has hindered my
pro-cheerleading career. It's tragic...
> I hate to say it, but I think this will probably suck just as much as
regualar NFL football, but it will be set to a Limp Bizket soundtrack with
"edgier" players and more nekkid chicks. *blargh*
> erikka
>   >i just watched my tape of wwf smackdown taped this past week in
chicago, and
> >they debuted the chicago enforcer cheerleaders.
> >
> >one thing had me konfused. NONE of the cheerleaders were chicagaland
> >mw-raves hotties. are you guys just too busy with your day jobs?



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>And you can act real rude and totally removed
>And I can act like an imbecile

The Brady Bunch
[Safety Dance/Men Without Hats/1983]

You can watch Mister Rogers,
You can watch Three's Company,
And you can turn on Fame,
Or the Newlywed Game,
Or the Addams Family.

Say, you can watch Barney Miller,
And you can watch your MTV,
And you can watch
Till your eyes fall out of your head.
That'll be okay with me.
And you can watch (TV)

You can watch Johnny Carson,
You can watch Phil Donahue,
And you can use TV Guide
To help you decide,
With a capsulized review.

Say, you can watch 60 minutes,
Even Captain Kangaroo,
But there's only one set,
So whatever you watch
Well, you know I gotta watch it too.

A-say, give it up,
Give it up,
Television's takin' its toll.
That's enough,
That's enough.
Gimme the remote control.

I've been nice,
I've been good,
Please don't do this to me.
Turn it off,
Turn it off,
I don't wanna have to see
The Brady Bunch.
Not the Brady Bunch.
Well, the Brady Bunch.
Yeah, the Brady Bunch.

It's the story of a lovely lady,
Who was bringing up three very lovely girls.
All of them had hair of gold,
Like their mother,
The youngest one in curls.

It's the story of a man named Brady
Who was busy with three boys of his own.
They were four men living all together,
A-yeah, but they were all alone.

Till then one day,
A-one day,
When the lady met this fellow
And they knew,
And they knew
It was much more than a hunch
That the group,
A-this group
Must somehow form a family.
That's the way,
That's the way,
That's the way they all became the Brady Bunch.

Well, the Brady Bunch,
Yeah, the Brady Bunch,
Well, the Brady Bunch.
Oh, it's the Brady Bu-unch...

"weird" mk


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From mw-raves-return-15129-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 16:37:49 2001
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hey no shit!  that'd be funny to look at a lot of the now-sarcastic 
mw-ravers back at satori.  that was a fucking party and a half.  october 
1995 was the singular best month of raving that has ever been.  satori, the 
metroplex 10th anniversary party in detroit, and jak-olantern...did 
anything happen the *first* weekend?  i know metroplex was the 14th, satori 
was the 21st and jak was the 28th...what was the 7th?  hmm.

running around in his socks?!,
mk

> > Satori
>
>that was one hell of a night.
>
>hoo-wee.
>pixie

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 I understand where you are coming from. I really do. But, knowing the
history of the UN, I know that it's to corrupt to be a fair and unbiased
judicial system. Our judicial system at a local level is already fucked. Put
that kind of corruption on a global scale, with no one to answer to and you
have no chance of getting a fair trial. Have you ever heard of Kurt
Waldheim? He was the UN secretary general from 1973-1983. He was also a high
ranking Nazi SS officer during WWII. Does that kind of UN leader represent
the people of the world?
  In order for the UN to be democratically run, wouldn't all countries
participating have to be democratically run? Do the citizens of Cuba elect
officials to elect a UN rep? Did you know that this international court will
not be trial by jury, by rather a tribunal picked by a UN council? Who's
going to prosecute the UN in cases like this -
  http://www.freedomdomain.com/un/disturbpeace.html#BODY
 
and the NATO led bombing of innocent people in Serbia.
  Perhaps we do need a global body to step in when needed in cases of crimes
against humanity, but that organization would have to be the most fair,
unbiased and reponsible to the individual, group this world has seen. The UN
doesn't even come close. If they did, then why last year at the UN Summit in
NYC, was the security so tight that it practically shut down the city during
the event. What are these world leaders so afraid of if they are truly
acting in our behalf?  Did the founding fathers needed a small army to
protect them during the drafting of the constitution?
  The action of tyrants cannot be counterbalanced other tyrants acting in
the name of "peace".

Noble
 

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    Our elected officials in turn elect UN representatives. It's a
representative democracy, and yes it is a democratically governed UN. Have
you ever done any reading on the ICC? I'll admit the only reason I did was
for a world politics class, but frankly I don't see what the problem is,
like darw_n said, it's to punish people for violating *international* level
laws against war crimes and the like. It allows the UN to punish the leaders
of countries who violate international law rather than having only things
like "economic sanctions" as punishment. It's about fucking time if you ask
me...

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> When was the last time you voted for your UN representative? When was the
> last time you served on an international jury? I don't think Americans are
> exempt from anything. You give me a democratically governed UN, and I'll
be
> happy to go along with it. Until then, all I see is fascism using "peace"
> and "crimes against humanity" to grab more and more control.
>
> Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>
> Noble
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darw_n [mailto:darwin@veriomail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:13 AM
> To: Noble Long; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??
>
>
> dude...
>
> I have to go to school here, but explain to me why you think an
> international court is wrong now??
>
> It's for war crimes and crimes against humanity, and if you think any one,
> including Americans, are exempt from this, then you are...
>
> darw_n
>
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
>
> search for "djdarwin" on napster
> www.sphereproductions.com
> www.mannequinodd.com
> www.mp3.com/darw_n
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noble Long" <nlong@Zethcon.com>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:50 AM
> Subject: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??
>
>
> >
> >
> > Dear friend of liberty,
> >
> > The gavel hits.  Its piercing crack commands the room.  History is made.
> >
> > The International Criminal Court (ICC) is now in session -- and our
> > country will never be the same.
> >
> > "In July of 1998, 120 nations met in Rome and voted to endorse an
> > international criminal court.  According to its own terms, when the
> > treaty is ratified by 60 nations, it will be capable of exerting
> > universal jurisdiction over every human being on the planet.  This type
> > of criminal court has been on the wish list of the United Nations since
> > 1947."  -- Dr. James Hirsen, 1/5/01
> >
> > "Once created, the international court will give the U.N. the mechanism
> > it needs to enforce its global 'laws' against American citizens.  All
> > Americans concerned with our sovereignty as a nation should be very
> > alarmed by this latest development."  -- Congressman Ron Paul, 1/8/01
> >
> > "In short, the treaty gives the ICC the right to try and imprison U.S.
> > citizens, including our military and other government officers, even
> > [if] we have refused to sign it, let alone ratify it."  -- former
> > Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, 7/3/00
> >
> > "On the International Criminal Court treaty, 'the [Defense] Department's
> > position has been clear,' a Pentagon official said.  'We were against
> > signing it and still are.'" -- Washington Post, 1/1/01
> >
> > "Casey [Lee A. Casey, a former Justice Department official who
> > specializes in international law] said he opposes the creation of the
> > permanent International Criminal Court under the auspices of the United
> > Nations because he believes its powers are too extensive, and could
> > subject American citizens to trial without allowing them the rights and
> > protections they are guaranteed by the Constitution."  -- Washington
> > Post, 1/1/01
> >
> > "National sovereignty, which means that Americans are answerable to no
> > one but their own government and their own laws, should never be
> > compromised.  The creation of a permanent, international war-crimes
> > tribunal certainly would compromise the national sovereignty of every
> > country on Earth."  -- Charley Reese, 1/11/01
> >
> > The Liberty Committee is indeed very alarmed by the International
> > Criminal Court.  According to recent press reports, President Bush is
> > alarmed also.  Today, The Liberty Committee is launching a nationwide
> > petition drive asking President Bush to rescind the signature of the
> > United States to the International Criminal Court treaty that former
> > President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000.
> >
> > To complete the on-line petition, go to
> > http://www.thelibertycommittee.org.
<http://www.thelibertycommittee.org.>
> > Please ask family and friends to do
> > the same.  There is a printable version of the petition that we ask you
> > to print, copy and distribute to people who don't use the Internet.  All
> > completed and received petitions, on-line and printed, will be presented
> > to the White House.
> >
> > The International Criminal Court will consider itself to be formally and
> > officially established after only 60 of the world's 161 countries ratify
> > the Rome Statute of the ICC.  As of today, 27 countries have ratified
> > the treaty.   The ICC needs just 33 more ratifying countries, from
> > among the 112 which have signed but not yet ratified, to claim
> > jurisdiction over all 161 countries and their citizens.
> >
> > "It is my fervent hope that ...a large majority of United Nations Member
> > States will have signed and ratified [the ICC treaty], so that the Court
> > will have unquestioned authority and the widest possible jurisdiction."
> > -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, 7/18/98
> >
> > "Only hours before the Dec. 31 [2000] deadline, Bill Clinton gave the
> > United Nations its most significant victory so far in its relentless
> > quest for global governance:  the International Criminal Court."
> > -- Henry Lamb, 1/3/01
> >
> > Supporters of the ICC have worked for years to establish this new world
> > court.  It is now time for us to do our work. Please sign our petition
> > and ask others to do the same.
> >
> > Kent Snyder
> > The Liberty Committee
> > http://www.thelibertycommittee.org <http://www.thelibertycommittee.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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<< that party was so lame I had to get fucked up to live with myself for being
 there. >>

your mom has a shitty line up.  aaron.

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<<     Now, is it just me, or has white trash been making a comeback like it's
 some great thing to aspire to now? Since when do people *want* to be
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  >>

welp, good ol boi george double-ya bush is the president now.  i think that 
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 04:00:27AM -0600, emily wrote:
> that party was so lame I had to get fucked up to live with myself for being
> there.

Yea, plus they promised us that porn room and it never happened.
Dammit.

Didn't I go to that party with you?

That was the one with like Mark Farina, Lion, Danny the Wildchild, etc?

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Ack!  You just mentioned Minot and Hazen.  

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Nuh uh.  Her mom has a fuzzy pink robe.

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In a message dated 1/23/01 10:06:25 AM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net 
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<< No shit, the armory was a great space, and all I ever heard was bitch
 bitch bitch about it, do kids not realize there are only so many warehouses,
 armories, and ice arenas in a city? Now we don't have any left and where are
 we? FUCKED. >>

hey, lets throw a rave in monticello, or duluth, or a minneapolis party...in 
wisconsin!!, or howbout in mankato, or rochester, i mean dear god,    it 
seems parties in minneapolis are everywhere but minneapolis.  and we dont 
even have an anti rave law!  uuughhh...im gonna go take a shit.  aaron.

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how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
Michigan?

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In a message dated 1/23/01 10:06:25 AM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net 
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<< No shit, the armory was a great space, and all I ever heard was bitch
 bitch bitch about it, do kids not realize there are only so many
warehouses,
 armories, and ice arenas in a city? Now we don't have any left and where
are
 we? FUCKED. >>

hey, lets throw a rave in monticello, or duluth, or a minneapolis party...in

wisconsin!!, or howbout in mankato, or rochester, i mean dear god,    it 
seems parties in minneapolis are everywhere but minneapolis.  and we dont 
even have an anti rave law!  uuughhh...im gonna go take a shit.  aaron.

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if you feel safe in a submarine with a few hundred ravers on drugs raise
your hand.

didn't think so,
-t

i'll plant a camera and watch from shore though!

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how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
Michigan?

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    Aside from submarines being rather cramped quarters and I would imagine
rather expensive to rent, Minneapolis is not on lake michigan. We've tried
for airport hangars, but no go on those either.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
> Michigan?



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but, it would be so dope bro, we could all smoke ganj and fill the entire
vessel with smoke - no other drugs would be needed!

it would be like the Cheech and Chong concert from "Up in Smoke"!!

hehe

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if you feel safe in a submarine with a few hundred ravers on drugs raise
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didn't think so,
-t

i'll plant a camera and watch from shore though!

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how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
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To: Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com>
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Subject: RE: [mw] Wishing on a star...

haha, someone has to tell Victors from Two Tigers, I think that would 
be the perfect venue for Submerged 4. :)

plur,

jbrick

At 10:45 AM -0600 1/23/01, Noble Long wrote:
>how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
>Michigan?
>
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>
>
>In a message dated 1/23/01 10:06:25 AM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net
>writes:
>
><< No shit, the armory was a great space, and all I ever heard was bitch
> bitch bitch about it, do kids not realize there are only so many
>warehouses,
> armories, and ice arenas in a city? Now we don't have any left and where
>are
> we? FUCKED. >>
>
>hey, lets throw a rave in monticello, or duluth, or a minneapolis party...in
>
>wisconsin!!, or howbout in mankato, or rochester, i mean dear god,    it
>seems parties in minneapolis are everywhere but minneapolis.  and we dont
>even have an anti rave law!  uuughhh...im gonna go take a shit.  aaron.
>
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How about a large dank, musty cave somewhere?

think! people think...

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    Aside from submarines being rather cramped quarters and I would imagine
rather expensive to rent, Minneapolis is not on lake michigan. We've tried
for airport hangars, but no go on those either.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
> Michigan?



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Subject: [mw] Synchronicity ..SATURDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know i m beating it like a dead fish but sue me.  
if antone wants to start a net meet e mail
Gabe_jmp@hotmail.com


  Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
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 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
 The Other Side.  (513) 671-5999
 Culture 7  (614) 297-0998
 
 Tons of Free give aways. Arrive Early
 
 Guest list is limited. Call (513) 272-2489 by Jan 20th
 
 This event is being held in a 100% Legal,Clean,Heated Venue.
 Do Not bring Drugs.Alcohal,Weapons,Markers or Bad Vibes
 Firm and Friendly Security will be on hand all night
 There will be Food and Drinks for sale all night
 
 Dj Hardware
 Hardware World/1Groove.com/FL
 
 DJ Hardware has started his mission to conquer the world. From spinning at 
remote outdoor raves, and warehouse parties to headlining major events across 
the globe. Hardware is taking his unique style of mixing to the masses. 
Whether it's hard trance, funky breaks or acid-house, he's a force to be 
reckoned with when it comes to energizing a crowd. 
 
 
 AK1200 
 P.A.M/Orlando,FL
 
 A true pioneer in  Drum an Bass in the US and UK.from being the first 
American DJ to play on UK pirate radio.To the '96 release of "you hear me 
talking". a breakthrough DnB tack for the masses. He continues to headline 
clubs and raves Worldwide. Dont miss the Sweet DnB sounds AK1200
 
 Dj Bam Bam
 UC music/Contaminated/Chicago IL
 
 Whether its in the studio making rave anthems and setting new standards in 
producing or dropping the tight blends that make the dancefloor bounce with 
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established himself to be a top DJ not to be missed
 
 Twilight Sleep  Live P.A
 Zeropoint Records/Cincinnati
 
 This 5 piece live drum an bass orchestra is gaining world recognition at 
warp speed.The only thing better than hearing these guys play is watching 
them do it Live!!!
 
 Nathan Profit   Live P.A
 Two Tigers/Columbus
 
 Creating some of the most amazing trance sounds in the Midwest.come watch as 
he opens your mind,body and soul Live!!!
 
 Infinite Grey  Live P.A
 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
back to start off the year.Check the tech house wizard as he brings it back 
Live!!!
 
 Negative Zero  Live P.A
 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
 Columbus's best kept secret. This is a debut performance you dont want to 
miss. as he produces his own unique hybrid of trance and breaks.
 
 React
 Subsonik/Cincinnati
 
 React is the man behind Subsonik and driving force in the underground. come 
check out his funky, pounding techno selections that rock the crowd into a 
frenzy.
 
 Matt Freeman
 Octane/Dayton
 
 Finishing up a new mix cd.Matts versatile House sounds and skills take him 
to Detroit for New Years and Australia in April and then off on a US summer 
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 Main Info Line:
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 e mail: jomamaproductions@cinci.rr.com
 
 Support Lines:
 
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                  (216) 485-7777 -Cleveland
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 Check Out our website
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 madd thanks to anyone who has ever supported us


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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hey everyone!!! my name's kat and although i love ravin and hearin you all 
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hehehe he said dank

nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< How about a large dank, musty cave somewhere? >>


Gabe
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    Actually, being on a river, we do have plenty of caves, and it has been
done here before, but nothing like that could ever happen these days, too
dangerous.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> How about a large dank, musty cave somewhere?



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you should ask stevie t how to throw one of those government sponsored raves
- i'll bet they'd let one of those be in a cave!

-t

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    Actually, being on a river, we do have plenty of caves, and it has been
done here before, but nothing like that could ever happen these days, too
dangerous.

> How about a large dank, musty cave somewhere?


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From mw-raves-return-15149-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 17:25:39 2001
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dangerous?

Well, then I guess i shouldn't suggest passing out peyote at the entrance.

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    Actually, being on a river, we do have plenty of caves, and it has been
done here before, but nothing like that could ever happen these days, too
dangerous.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> How about a large dank, musty cave somewhere?



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>     Actually, being on a river, we do have plenty of caves, and it has been
> done here before, but nothing like that could ever happen these days, too
> dangerous.

i was supposed to go to a rave in a cave once. it was called sacred, the
night before easter '96, st. louis. of course, it ended up being at some
shitty club. sven vath played for four hours and then we drove back to
urbana, still naive enough to bitch about false advertising on a flier.

/j







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>   In order for the UN to be democratically run, wouldn't all countries
> participating have to be democratically run? Do the citizens of Cuba elect
> officials to elect a UN rep?

    No, but cuba is a communist country, and represents one type of
government in a very large planet with hundreds of governments, who make
decisions democratically based on views of countries with all kinds of
systems. Does the federal government tell the states how to pick electors?
No. The UN is democratically run because it operates at the international
level, with countries voting on things of worldwide consequence, muchlike
our senators vote on things of national consequence.

  Did the founding fathers needed a small army to
> protect them during the drafting of the constitution?

    Yeah, actually they did. There were lots of guards outside that
courthouse, what did you study in american history?

    I'm not saying the UN is perfect or that they're going to be perfect in
administering justice on a global level, but having something is a hell of
alot better than what we have now. Like you said, NATO can get away with
bombing all kinds of innocent people and no one is there to tell them they
can't.

Matt Murphy
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http://www.suntimes.com/output/feder/feder23.html

:(

mk
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recorded live at brothers in metal 01/19/01

courtesy of delta...

some of what you missed.

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> >     Actually, being on a river, we do have plenty of caves, and it has been
> > done here before, but nothing like that could ever happen these days, too
> > dangerous.
> 
> i was supposed to go to a rave in a cave once. it was called sacred, the
> night before easter '96, st. louis. of course, it ended up being at some
> shitty club. sven vath played for four hours and then we drove back to
> urbana, still naive enough to bitch about false advertising on a flier.

I went to a rave in a cave.  "Inside the Ride," thrown by everyone's
favorite minneapolis thugs, the JVC.  That must've been 1997?

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> I went to a rave in a cave.  "Inside the Ride," thrown by everyone's
> favorite minneapolis thugs, the JVC.  That must've been 1997?

heh, tom and christine and i debated driving up to mpls for that, but
decided against it based on the fact that jvc was throwing it.

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> i was supposed to go to a rave in a cave once. it was called sacred, the
> night before easter '96, st. louis. of course, it ended up being at some
> shitty club. sven vath played for four hours and then we drove back to
> urbana, still naive enough to bitch about false advertising on a flier.

    They actually advertised the cave on the flyer? No wonder it didn't
happen there! duh. =] Apparently the party in the caves in st paul here was
in like 93, and it was apparently pretty incredible, but I wouldn't know, my
ass was still listening to snow and the beastie boys in 93. =]

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Subject: Re: [mw] cooky the clown RIP

>http://www.suntimes.com/output/feder/feder23.html


awww don't be sad.  You should be all about ouchy the clown these days.

http://www.ouchytheclown.com/


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    Another interesting topic, what were you all into pre-techno?

    I liked industrial music, before that it was whatever generic radio shit
came out, but before techno was industrial music. It was angry. I was angry.
It was a good relationship. Eventually I wasn't so angry anymore. Then I
started listening to that fairy techno crap that was alot of fun to dance
to. Now look at me...

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> > I went to a rave in a cave.  "Inside the Ride," thrown by everyone's
> > favorite minneapolis thugs, the JVC.  That must've been 1997?
>
> heh, tom and christine and i debated driving up to mpls for that, but
> decided against it based on the fact that jvc was throwing it.

    I must have missed that last post somehow, (I think I'm missing lots of
posts) but yes, that's the party I was thinking of, was it really in 1997?
Knowing it was JVC would have turned me off too, but I've been told it was
quite the party.

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I guess we have different definitions of democratically run. I define
democratically run as run directly by the people therefore answerable
directly to them. Even the US is not really democratically run, as we have a
representative government. It works fairly well in this country because
there is only one level of seperation between the senator and his
constituents. Whereas our UN rep actually has 3 levels, the electoral
college picks the president who designates someone to be the UN rep.
  A better system would be a volunteer body of citizens who answer to no one
but their concience who would be the jury in said cases. You could have a
rotating body of say 200 people from around the world and perhaps 20 would
be chosen for each jury. 

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>   In order for the UN to be democratically run, wouldn't all countries
> participating have to be democratically run? Do the citizens of Cuba elect
> officials to elect a UN rep?

    No, but cuba is a communist country, and represents one type of
government in a very large planet with hundreds of governments, who make
decisions democratically based on views of countries with all kinds of
systems. Does the federal government tell the states how to pick electors?
No. The UN is democratically run because it operates at the international
level, with countries voting on things of worldwide consequence, muchlike
our senators vote on things of national consequence.

  Did the founding fathers needed a small army to
> protect them during the drafting of the constitution?

    Yeah, actually they did. There were lots of guards outside that
courthouse, what did you study in american history?

    I'm not saying the UN is perfect or that they're going to be perfect in
administering justice on a global level, but having something is a hell of
alot better than what we have now. Like you said, NATO can get away with
bombing all kinds of innocent people and no one is there to tell them they
can't.

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shit..no one will help you here..you are cursed by the mw raves crew 
forever.....hell ive been trapped on here for over a year

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atomly wrote:

> Yea, plus they promised us that porn room and it never happened.
> Dammit.

wait, wasn't there some sort of half-assed porn room, like with pictures of anime
girls or something?    oooh!!  and that was the party with the nasty black
rolling room with squishy floors, that was waaay too warm and sweaty for
comfort....

>
> Didn't I go to that party with you?

either with me or you met us there...   I have pictures of you with your arm
around jesse, in fact, with his candy necklaces and spiked pacifier.  heh.

>
> That was the one with like Mark Farina, Lion, Danny the Wildchild, etc?
>

yep, and the sound that was so quiet you could carry on normal conversations
anywhere farther than 10 feet from the speakers.


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--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> hey no shit!  that'd be funny to look at a lot of
> the now-sarcastic 
> mw-ravers back at satori.  that was a fucking party
> and a half.  

i'm gonna go out on a limb here. that night was the
first night i ever candy-flipped. i had just moved to
cincy from columbus to go to school, and through some
luck i had managed to meet kristen at that
astro-something party that mary watts (a name that
brings to mind an entire other set of stories) threw
at the old whirly-ball place outside of columbus a
month before. i ended up getting ot help at the door
with wristbands, which to me was akin to being the
raviest diva of them all. i was stylin in my red and
blue baby fila tee-shirt that i bought with college
book money, had just bleached my hair out for the
first time, and was wearing my first-ever laminate
proudly. i remember meeting gypsy, which was an
experience in and of itself, and i remember how i
heard someone say that dj dan wasn't even booked, but
he decided to have a sense of humor and show up since
his name was on the flyer. i remember the owner of the
space, this nice little old man who thought it was
nice that the kids were gonna throw a party at his
indoor soccer arena, kinda like, he said, a "sock
hop." i remember him hours later wandering around in a
daze that looked suspiciously like an acid trip,
pulling a wagon full of drinks and saying in a soft
sing-song voice "...i got my lit-tle wa-gon..." i
remember being in the bathroom for hours, and watching
all of my friends carry out deals or gather to share
favors in the stalls. i remember my best friend dana,
telling me over and over to quit freaking out when i
wasn't the one freaking out. i remember passing out a
bag of blow pops and gum, thinking to myself that i
was glad i didn't bring a bag of about a 1000 plastic
whistles this time, like i did at "faded." i remember
hearing one of the dj's play, i don't remember which,
peaking on my candy flip, and noticing that the
turntable lights were fanning out at eye level, and
when the dj's fingers passed in front of the lights
and the light fanned out between them, i though i was
watching some supperreal being manipulating my brain
with music (far out yo) and as i walked home to my
dorm from a friends house the next morning,
remembering so many other things that happened that
night, i remember thinking that i wanted to rave
forever.

rave new world, yo.
pix-e




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> > your mom has a shitty line up.  aaron.
>
> Nuh uh.  Her mom has a fuzzy pink robe.

ahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahaa

it's true!

and some people don't think her "line up" is so bad, either- just ask
dica.  :P

emily


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ok a completly differnet note i was at work the other day..telemarketing, i 
asked this old guy if he had a 2nd mortgage. he says.."nope just me and the 
dawgg"

stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<<  i remember him hours later wandering around in a
 daze that looked suspiciously like an acid trip,
 pulling a wagon full of drinks and saying in a soft
 sing-song voice "...i got my lit-tle wa-gon..."  >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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Subject: [mw] 2-Step Flavas 1/25 Chicago

heavyweightsound.com presents

2-STEP FLAVAS   
a night of UK underground and breakbeat garage

Thursday January 25

CASPER
REES URBAN
PHIL FREE ART

-No Cover-  21+  9:30pm-2am
Liar's Club  1665 W Fullerton Ave

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Subject: [mw] MORE BROTHERS IN METAL - VIDEO

again courtesy of Delta Nine...

http://www.kidentropy.com/metal2.mpg
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entro
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http://www.kidentropy.com/metal02.mpg
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Sorry

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Subject: [mw] Cincinnati Tonight - GRAVITYBASS - January 23, 2001

Zeropoint Records and the Gravitybass Federation bring you:
Gravitybass. Cincinnati's one and only Drum & Bass Night.

Tomorrow night we have a special 3-man tagteam from some of the original
jungle selectas.

DAISY - Portland, Oregon. Jive-Alive.
MINDCANDY - Columbus, Ohio. Jive-Alive.
TROLL - CBS. Sweat. Gravitybass.

These three will bring you a specail set of some of the oldskool
breakbeat/hardcore sounds!  This set is not to be missed!


Also appearing:
Jim Van Eaton > Live D&B PA
CPV vs MPH > Cincinnati Speed Crew


Admission is only $3.  Open 10pm - 2am.  Gravitybass is held at Top
Cats. 2820 Vine St, Cincinnati ,Ohio

For Directions call: 513.281.2005
For Further info:  513.588.9796

http://www.zeropointrecords.com
mailto:zeropointrecords@hotmail.com



Next Week:  January 30, 2001

K-FREY > Gravitybass. Zeropoint Recordings.
NAUTI-GROOVE > Scrubbing Bubble. Special d&b set.
JOVIAN > Cleveland.

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In a message dated 1/23/01 10:58:52 AM Central Standard Time, 
nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< how about renting a submarine and thowing a party in the middle of lake
 Michigan? >>

can we fill the submarine with crack/cocaine? im going to devise a super 
virus.  aaron.

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i miss JVC actually.  oddly enough.  so much cooler than fusion force or new 
time complex, although new time did bring in ed rush and footloose and craze 
and some others, i forget.  but mpls scene crashed right at the end of all 
that.  mplscannddyy!!  aaron.

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In a message dated 1/23/01 12:28:41 PM Central Standard Time, 
emilybitch@worldnet.att.net writes:

<< either with me or you met us there...   I have pictures of you with your 
arm
 around jesse, in fact, with his candy necklaces and spiked pacifier.  heh.
  >>

ahhh.  hardcore jesse sr.  what the hell happened to him.  one time i saw him 
coming out of a house accross portland ave, the place i was stayin, only to 
find out he lived there, and now i guess he lives somewhere far off??  anyone 
see him at furthur this year?  oh mannnnn...wow.  "ladies n gentlemen, he 
payed to get in, and hes gonna pay to get out".  just you keep that in mind.  
aaron.

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In a message dated 1/23/01 11:57:05 AM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net 
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<< Another interesting topic, what were you all into pre-techno?
 
     I liked industrial music, before that it was whatever generic radio shit
 came out, but before techno was industrial music. It was angry. I was angry.
 It was a good relationship. Eventually I wasn't so angry anymore. Then I
 started listening to that fairy techno crap that was alot of fun to dance
 to. Now look at me... >>

3rd grade-vanilla ice//mc hammer.
4th-6th grade, i dunno what i listened to.  weird al?
6th grade-nirvana, pearl jam, nine inch nails.
7th grade-twin cities hardcore, code 13, state of fear, etc + skinny puppy, 
ministry
n that winds us up to date.  aaron.

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On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 03:26:54PM -0500, OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com wrote:
> ahhh.  hardcore jesse sr.  what the hell happened to him.  one time i saw him 
> coming out of a house accross portland ave, the place i was stayin, only to 
> find out he lived there, and now i guess he lives somewhere far off??  anyone 
> see him at furthur this year?  oh mannnnn...wow.  "ladies n gentlemen, he 
> payed to get in, and hes gonna pay to get out".  just you keep that in mind.  
> aaron.

Haha...  I have a sweet picture of him in his "hardcorest" army helmet
sleeping, drooling and holding onto a copy of my record for dear life
all while being swarmed by flies in the Deviant Nation tent.  It's
beautiful.

-- 
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<< Yea, plus they promised us that porn room and it never happened.
 Dammit. >>


A porn room?????


now *that* would rock.


Lorie

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In a message dated 1/23/01 2:39:17 PM Central Standard Time, 
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<< Haha...  I have a sweet picture of him in his "hardcorest" army helmet
 sleeping, drooling and holding onto a copy of my record for dear life
 all while being swarmed by flies in the Deviant Nation tent.  It's
 beautiful.
  >>

fuck, you should send it this way, yo.  aaron.

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Subject: [mw] usa today article

about these *free* raves put on in CA. 

http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20010123/3008172s.htm

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shit that brings back memories.....

Now, I guess my childhood is officially dead.... Heh, not as long as
Transformers still exists on some celluloid somewhere!!  Huzzah!!



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Subject: [mw] Fwd: Save PBS & NPR!


sorry.  thought some of you might find this important.

>
>On NPR's Morning Edition last week, Nina Tottenberg said that if the 
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>In a message dated 1/23/01 11:57:05 AM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net 
>writes:
>
><< Another interesting topic, what were you all into pre-techno?


Youngster - 6th grade - pop/radio music
Weird Al, Robert Palmer, Heuy Lewis,
Michael Jackson, ZZ Top, J. Geils Band,
anything on "Solid Gold"

7th-8th Grade - Metal / Skater Music
Metallica, Anthrax, Exploited, COC
MOD, some pop like INXS or REM.

8th/9th grade - started the morphing
out of skater music into punk/alternative.
Bad Religion, Black Flag, Rollins Band,
Anthrax, Metallica, Dead Milkmen...

10th grade - fully discovered alternative.
The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Smiths,
etc...

11th / 12th grade - Alternative, Manchester,
Industrial - Cure, Depeche Mode, Smiths,
New Order, Echo & The Bunnymen, Happy 
Mondays, Charlatans, New Fast Automatic 
Daffodils, The Wonderstuff, James, NIN, 
Meat Beat Manifesto, Nitzer Ebb, Consolidated...

Post high school, pre-rave - more of the same 
(alternative/industrial) + new school punk & Ska
Green Day, NoFX, Op Ivy, Citizen Fish...

Then...my first rave...Nov. 14th, 1992 - "Pulse" @ the
now defunct Oak Theatre in Chicago.  You know the rest...

I pretty much listen to all of the same music though,
except for the really old pop stuff.  My tastes haven't
changes as much as they have expanded.

	- Joe




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Well shit, I'd go.... As long as they don't pay 70's rock....

TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
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Here's the l that I forgot....

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In a message dated 1/21/01 8:05:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, gt303@juno.com 
writes:

<< the afterhours was funny.
 200 kids packed into sirens...
 with the b-boys fighting the kandy kids for dancing space. >>

And me sleeping underneath the DJ booth....

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:     Another interesting topic, what were you all into pre-techno?
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i deffinately fell into the punk/gothic catagory...but does that really
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From mw-raves-return-15187-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 22:23:51 2001
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Subject: [mw] ROOT @ LIAR'S CLUB 02-15-01

BACK TO BASICS.  ROOTS AND CULTURE.
COSMIC BREAKS AND SEMICONSCIOUS MEDIA
PRESENT:

R00T @ THE LIAR'S CLUB
1665 W. FULLERTON AVE
CHICAGO, IL 
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5 DOLLARS
9PM TIL 2AM

R00T sports a diverse monthly lineup of drum and bass, hardcore, and uk breaks.  Variety being the spice of life, our goal is to never have the same lineup represented.  R00T transpires every third thursday of every month.

02/15/01 - special 27th b-day party for entro

DJ DELTA NINE - HARDCORE CHICAGO, YOU PUSSY MOTHERFUCKERS!  When not expelling corn from
his esophogus or provoking people with jacks 
to the face on video, Dave likes to spend
his quiet time bashing his audience over the
head with a barrage of 909 bassdrums.  If you
didn't know, now you do, and now would be a 
good time to raise your tolerance to alcohol.

with special guest residents:

KID ENTROPY - SPECIAL DUBPLATE SET 

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coming in 02/01 - SEMI003 - DJ HIDDEN "TSJI-LP/PEOPLE ARE PROGRAMMED" 12 INCH ON semiconscious media.

entro

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||420 in Cleveland, either '95 or '96
||If anyone remembers this party, I'd like to hear your perception of it.

Alkahest fucking ripped it.

"Who?"

Ectomorph was badass, too.

"Ecto.. ?"

Oh, never mind...


                                         -tjw



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From mw-raves-return-15189-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 22:36:39 2001
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i would like to clear something up. neither breakdancing, nor graffiti art, are "hip-hop". hip-hop
came later.. much later, depending on your perspective. this is not meant to detract from any of
the above; it is, however, meant to detract from the attempts of many to associate themselves with
certain popular social trends by conforming to a widely misunderstood stereotype. 

/rant

                                             thank you, carry on.


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agreed :(
when i saw this on the news i realized the only ones left are wizzo and
professor andy..and they were nowhere near as cool as bozo and cooky.
Well, at least i went to see it live once. huge moment. huge.
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From mw-raves-return-15191-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 23 22:39:42 2001
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||I just watched "Ally McBeal"  

 If someone makes a new version of "Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass", I think
Callista Flockhart (sp?) should play the part of the Mock Turtle. 


                                         
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>i deffinately fell into the punk/gothic catagory...but does that really
>suprise anyone ???

don't let her fool you, she was 100% juggalo!!

mk
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while we're on the subject..

> It is my duty to tell everyone bout this so check it
> if you can...
>
> 25th January 2001
> 8.00pm (Pacific Time(? If this is wrong... I'm sorry))
>
> *Titonton Duvante on Betalounge*
>

anyone remember his set at motor for the kit clayton/stewart walker thing ? <cringe>
this might be cool tho.. there's some really nice stuff on betalounge.





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Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
think it's better to remain defenseless?  With that kind of thinking, I am
glad you don't own guns.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, A Grewe wrote:

> I disagree.. from the stand point of a woman who was
> mugged by gun point less than 4 months ago I have
> really ben thinking about guns lately.  Most people
> think that is the time to go buy a gun... No I hate
> them and would freak if I had on in tha
> cercumstance... loosing my gun and my life.  MO voted
> on concealed weapons recently... The idea scared me. 
> I am not willing to carry a gun to protect myself from
> my neighbors who with a gun might flip and go too far
> one day.  Its not just the criminals I fear its the
> everyday Joe who has a stressfull day and tries to
> live out "Falling Down."   Seriously The entire nation
> is going psycho and I dont want to be there when
> someone explodes.  
> 
> ALPha
> 
> --- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> > I'll agree with you there. Although, I don't own a
> > gun and don't plan to
> > anytime soon, I think it's a fundamental right to be
> > able to defend
> > yourself. I participated in a gun control rally in
> > downtown Chicago, as the
> > opposition, and we were made to stand behind
> > barriers, while the gun control
> > crowd (a large percentage were elementary school
> > kids bussed in) were free
> > to roam the plaza. Neverthless, my bullhorn came in
> > handy as Mayor Daley got
> > up to speak on the evils of guns. I quickly turned
> > on the bullhorn and
> > yelled - "Even the hypocrite Mayor Daley has armed
> > guards, why should he be
> > able to defend himself while you cannot..." at that
> > point one of Chicago's
> > finest tried to get in my face, but instead of
> > disuading me, I simply yelled
> > in the bullhorn "see all these cops around you. why
> > do they carry arms? i'll
> > tell you why. because they know that criminals carry
> > weapons, and will
> > always carry weapons no matter what the laws are.
> > that's what makes them
> > criminals." I had a cool sign with Adolph Hitler
> > doing a sieg hiel that said
> > "Raise your hand if you are for gun control." All in
> > all, it had to be the
> > funnest hour long lunch break i've ever had. and all
> > thanks to the Chicago
> > Libertarian party...
> > 
> > Noble
> > 
> > -no i am not a right winger..
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rvkeller@iupui.edu [mailto:rvkeller@iupui.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:19 PM
> > To: Noble Long
> > Cc: 'Matt Murphy'; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> > 
> > 
> > I am not talking rural, even in the burbs it's city
> > living so to speak.
> > The larger the area, the more handouts people want. 
> > People are willing to
> > scarifice certain rights (in LA and NYC guns
> > thinking they are horrible
> > killing machines--which their own curropt cops get
> > issued).  Many cops in
> > the cities are more apt to be anti citizens owning
> > guns.  They want to be
> > that 'thin blue line'.  I went to the gun show and
> > saw rural cops with AKs
> > and the like.  However some of the cops I work with
> > think they should just
> > ban them.  They don't care cause they will always
> > have a gun, their duty
> > weapon.
> > 
> > On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:
> > 
> > > Maybe, he's saying it's easier to be
> > self-sufficient - grow your own food,
> > > make your own clothes, roll your own cigars, etc.
> > in the country, which I
> > > could agree with, although it's not impossible to
> > do this in cities.
> > Living
> > > in a studio flat on the 23rd floor might hamper
> > things a bit.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matt Murphy [mailto:murph@mr.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 1:26 PM
> > > To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > This country
> > > > needs to come back to _personal responsibility_,
> > however as more and
> > more
> > > > people move to cities, they will foolishly rely
> > on the government to
> > > > protect them.
> > > 
> > >     What the hell does moving to cities have
> > anything to do with it???
> > Lemme
> > > guess, you live in the country? (I live in
> > Minneapolis proper)
> > > 
> > > Matt Murphy
> > > sound.light.motion
> > > murph@mr.net
> > > 
> > > 
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> So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
> think it's better to remain defenseless?  With that kind of thinking, I am
> glad you don't own guns.

do they offer logic classes at iupui?
what about english, or maybe grammar?
how about don't take yourself too fucking seriously 101?

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> When was the last time you voted for your UN representative?

The last time was when I voted for all my representitives in congress, which
voted assigned possition for me, representitively, for the US Ambassador to
the UN.  When was the last time you directly voted for anything other than
district representation or executive possition?  Never, because you can't,
we do not live in a direct democracy, nor is a direct democracy possible in
the states...

And the last thing I would want on the jury of Slobidon Milosovich or any
war situation would be ordinary people, ill-educated people...

And, ummm, what definition of facism are you using here?  Because it doesn't
fit....



When was the
> last time you served on an international jury? I don't think Americans are
> exempt from anything. You give me a democratically governed UN, and I'll
be
> happy to go along with it. Until then, all I see is fascism using "peace"
> and "crimes against humanity" to grab more and more control.
>
> Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>
> Noble
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: darw_n [mailto:darwin@veriomail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:13 AM
> To: Noble Long; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??
>
>
> dude...
>
> I have to go to school here, but explain to me why you think an
> international court is wrong now??
>
> It's for war crimes and crimes against humanity, and if you think any one,
> including Americans, are exempt from this, then you are...
>
> darw_n
>
> "create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noble Long" <nlong@Zethcon.com>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 5:50 AM
> Subject: [mw] NRR: Ready for a global fascist state??
>
>
> >
> >
> > Dear friend of liberty,
> >
> > The gavel hits.  Its piercing crack commands the room.  History is made.
> >
> > The International Criminal Court (ICC) is now in session -- and our
> > country will never be the same.
> >
> > "In July of 1998, 120 nations met in Rome and voted to endorse an
> > international criminal court.  According to its own terms, when the
> > treaty is ratified by 60 nations, it will be capable of exerting
> > universal jurisdiction over every human being on the planet.  This type
> > of criminal court has been on the wish list of the United Nations since
> > 1947."  -- Dr. James Hirsen, 1/5/01
> >
> > "Once created, the international court will give the U.N. the mechanism
> > it needs to enforce its global 'laws' against American citizens.  All
> > Americans concerned with our sovereignty as a nation should be very
> > alarmed by this latest development."  -- Congressman Ron Paul, 1/8/01
> >
> > "In short, the treaty gives the ICC the right to try and imprison U.S.
> > citizens, including our military and other government officers, even
> > [if] we have refused to sign it, let alone ratify it."  -- former
> > Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, 7/3/00
> >
> > "On the International Criminal Court treaty, 'the [Defense] Department's
> > position has been clear,' a Pentagon official said.  'We were against
> > signing it and still are.'" -- Washington Post, 1/1/01
> >
> > "Casey [Lee A. Casey, a former Justice Department official who
> > specializes in international law] said he opposes the creation of the
> > permanent International Criminal Court under the auspices of the United
> > Nations because he believes its powers are too extensive, and could
> > subject American citizens to trial without allowing them the rights and
> > protections they are guaranteed by the Constitution."  -- Washington
> > Post, 1/1/01
> >
> > "National sovereignty, which means that Americans are answerable to no
> > one but their own government and their own laws, should never be
> > compromised.  The creation of a permanent, international war-crimes
> > tribunal certainly would compromise the national sovereignty of every
> > country on Earth."  -- Charley Reese, 1/11/01
> >
> > The Liberty Committee is indeed very alarmed by the International
> > Criminal Court.  According to recent press reports, President Bush is
> > alarmed also.  Today, The Liberty Committee is launching a nationwide
> > petition drive asking President Bush to rescind the signature of the
> > United States to the International Criminal Court treaty that former
> > President Clinton authorized on December 31, 2000.
> >
> > To complete the on-line petition, go to
> > http://www.thelibertycommittee.org.
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> > to print, copy and distribute to people who don't use the Internet.  All
> > completed and received petitions, on-line and printed, will be presented
> > to the White House.
> >
> > The International Criminal Court will consider itself to be formally and
> > officially established after only 60 of the world's 161 countries ratify
> > the Rome Statute of the ICC.  As of today, 27 countries have ratified
> > the treaty.   The ICC needs just 33 more ratifying countries, from
> > among the 112 which have signed but not yet ratified, to claim
> > jurisdiction over all 161 countries and their citizens.
> >
> > "It is my fervent hope that ...a large majority of United Nations Member
> > States will have signed and ratified [the ICC treaty], so that the Court
> > will have unquestioned authority and the widest possible jurisdiction."
> > -- U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, 7/18/98
> >
> > "Only hours before the Dec. 31 [2000] deadline, Bill Clinton gave the
> > United Nations its most significant victory so far in its relentless
> > quest for global governance:  the International Criminal Court."
> > -- Henry Lamb, 1/3/01
> >
> > Supporters of the ICC have worked for years to establish this new world
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> > and ask others to do the same.
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    What she's saying is guns are usually a pretty poor defense against guns
because for 1, the person being attacked usually freaks out, and 2, if
you're going to shoot someone, you just shoot them, you either get shot or
you don't, it's not like another form of defense won't have equal results.
It's unfortunate that your paranoia masks your ability to interperate
others' words in a sane way.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
> think it's better to remain defenseless?  With that kind of thinking, I am
> glad you don't own guns.



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> >     Ugh, maybe that's an ohio thing or something, but 
> t'ain't no break
> >circles 'round here! =]

mk-ultra said:
> fucking useless morons, the lot of them.

well, so yeah.
its an ohio thing.
if its composed of fucking useless morons then it is definitely an ohio
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> Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE CLICHES PEOPLE!

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> live out "Falling Down."   Seriously The entire nation
> is going psycho and I dont want to be there when
> someone explodes.  
ME EITHER!

i am giving my complete support to this argument!
people exploding is horrible!
its real messy with all those innards and stuff.


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>Have you ever heard of Kurt
> Waldheim? He was the UN secretary general from 1973-1983. He was also a
high
> ranking Nazi SS officer during WWII.


He was a Nazi Intellegence officer, not an SS...

It was a foolish decision on the UN's half, yes.  But need I remind you of
our own foolish votes?

darw_n

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Yeah well I remember going to that party.... Seeing a certain hardcore dj
cry... watching another certain infamous cincy house dj/promoter play an
amazing of acid/trance (not acid trance, but acid and trance).  I remember
going into the bathroom... and overhearing ?Farqhar? and ?Melkior?
discussing random things and asking if I knew the secret of "cordorouy."  I
remember seeing hundreads of glow sticks rained down upon the crowd (yeah
glowsticks were acceptable back then, I swear I'm not making this up).  I
then ended up baby sitting my friends friend (it was her first or second
party) who had eatten to many of this and too much of that.  A few months
later I got a swell homemade valenting shaped like Heart with alien eyes
thanking me for babysitting... *sigh*  

Rave rave rave,

tad

P.S.  What is/would be sadder? if things never changed... or the way things
are now?
Growing up sucks... but not moving on sucks too.  Which sucks worse
dammnit?  Still I think it would be nice to go back and visit that
feeling/those days... and thats kinda what I thought raving was about in a
sense... 




At 10:33 AM 1/23/01 -0800, pixie wrote:
>
>--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>wrote:
>> hey no shit!  that'd be funny to look at a lot of
>> the now-sarcastic 
>> mw-ravers back at satori.  that was a fucking party
>> and a half.  
>
>i'm gonna go out on a limb here. that night was the
>first night i ever candy-flipped. i had just moved to
>cincy from columbus to go to school, and through some
>luck i had managed to meet kristen at that
>astro-something party that mary watts (a name that
>brings to mind an entire other set of stories) threw
>at the old whirly-ball place outside of columbus a
>month before. i ended up getting ot help at the door
>with wristbands, which to me was akin to being the
>raviest diva of them all. i was stylin in my red and
>blue baby fila tee-shirt that i bought with college
>book money, had just bleached my hair out for the
>first time, and was wearing my first-ever laminate
>proudly. i remember meeting gypsy, which was an
>experience in and of itself, and i remember how i
>heard someone say that dj dan wasn't even booked, but
>he decided to have a sense of humor and show up since
>his name was on the flyer. i remember the owner of the
>space, this nice little old man who thought it was
>nice that the kids were gonna throw a party at his
>indoor soccer arena, kinda like, he said, a "sock
>hop." i remember him hours later wandering around in a
>daze that looked suspiciously like an acid trip,
>pulling a wagon full of drinks and saying in a soft
>sing-song voice "...i got my lit-tle wa-gon..." i
>remember being in the bathroom for hours, and watching
>all of my friends carry out deals or gather to share
>favors in the stalls. i remember my best friend dana,
>telling me over and over to quit freaking out when i
>wasn't the one freaking out. i remember passing out a
>bag of blow pops and gum, thinking to myself that i
>was glad i didn't bring a bag of about a 1000 plastic
>whistles this time, like i did at "faded." i remember
>hearing one of the dj's play, i don't remember which,
>peaking on my candy flip, and noticing that the
>turntable lights were fanning out at eye level, and
>when the dj's fingers passed in front of the lights
>and the light fanned out between them, i though i was
>watching some supperreal being manipulating my brain
>with music (far out yo) and as i walked home to my
>dorm from a friends house the next morning,
>remembering so many other things that happened that
>night, i remember thinking that i wanted to rave
>forever.
>
>rave new world, yo.
>pix-e
>
>
>
>
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At 08:06 AM 1/23/2001 -0800, pixie wrote:

>--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> > You can dance if you want to, you can leave your
> > friends behind
> > 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't
> > dance
> > Well they're no friends of mine....
>
>We can go when we want to, the night is young and so
>am I
>And we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet
>and surprise 'em with the victory cry
>We can act if want to, if we don't nobody will
>And you can act real rude and totally removed
>And I can act like an imbecile
/me has this on 45...:)
Safety dance is what I'm going to have played at my wedding(if I ever get 
married) for the dance with my dad.
Its either that or White Christmas and well, if I had that one played, he'd 
just sing along and noone should ever have to hear that...


Glowworm(Heather)
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me not knowing who the funk professor andy is = i'm old.

-t

-----Original Message-----
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agreed :(
when i saw this on the news i realized the only ones left are wizzo and
professor andy..and they were nowhere near as cool as bozo and cooky.

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----- Original Message ----- 
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> > Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
> CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE CLICHES PEOPLE!


Depends, who are the "cliches people"?


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> Depends, who are the "cliches people"?
apparently just noble and stevie

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atomly wrote:

> Haha...  I have a sweet picture of him in his "hardcorest" army helmet
> sleeping, drooling and holding onto a copy of my record for dear life
> all while being swarmed by flies in the Deviant Nation tent.  It's
> beautiful.
>

damn, I still want a copy of that photo.   in exchange, I could let you sample from
his manic messages on my answering machine...   come on, you know you wanna...
:P   but damn, if only I'd saved his calls to my machine from jail in milwaukee
after DBNYE last year...  that's still my favorite jesse memory, watching him
convulsing on the dance floor and then attacking security as they dragged him out
before it was even 11.


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----- Original Message -----
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> > Depends, who are the "cliches people"?
> apparently just noble and stevie


Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches because they are
true...



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||Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches because they are
||true..

Enough!!


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> Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches 
> because they are
> true...
and all this time i thought things became cliched because an amazingly high
number
of wannabe intellectuals can't form thoughts of their own so they need
neatly phrased
quotes in order to simulate a real opinion.

guess yer right tho

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>Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches because they are
>true...

what!  nobody says that.  stereotypes happen because they are true.  you've 
got your cliches mixed up!  particularly the self-referential ones!

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> ||Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches because they
are
> ||true..
>
> Enough!!

Enough what?



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> > Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches
> > because they are
> > true...
> and all this time i thought things became cliched because an amazingly
high
> number
> of wannabe intellectuals can't form thoughts of their own so they need
> neatly phrased
> quotes in order to simulate a real opinion.


So you were under the impression that only an opinion no one else has ever
held is a "real opinion" (whatever a "real opinion" is)... Hmm... What was
that about wannabe intellectuals?



>
> guess yer right tho


usually.





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>
> >Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches because they
are
> >true...
>
> what!  nobody says that.  stereotypes happen because they are true.
you've
> got your cliches mixed up!  particularly the self-referential ones!
>
> mk



No no no... Stereotypes happen because too many wannbe intellectuals can't
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>I remember going into the bathroom... and overhearing ?Farqhar? and ?Melkior?
>discussing random things and asking if I knew the secret of "cordorouy."

ha!  i totally forgot about those guys!  i was at some party once and 
farqhwar came up to me with a rubber fish and put on this thick indian 
accent and goes "IN MY COUNTRY, IS HONOUR TO BE HIT WITH FISH!" and then he 
hit me with it!  hahahahaha.  those guys were in the air force too.  i hope 
they didn't fly planes.  scarey!

>Growing up sucks... but not moving on sucks too.

ahhhhh.  word.

mk

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opinion: 1a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a
particular matter 
real: 1a : of or relating to fixed, permanent, or immovable things (as lands
or tenements)

to combine, a real opinion is a  fixed, permanent, or immovable view,
judgement or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

using a cliche leads me to believe that that opinion is not actually formed
in the mind but adopted because of popular sway	


 agree or disagree, i dont really care, i've been at work too long and i
havent even gotten lunch(i guess thats what it would be called even working
at night)
grar 

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>Yeah... and Podge too... Do you know where any of those guys are? or what
>they are up to?

fuck if i know, ya fuckin cunt!  hahah.

seriously tho i think they went back to their homes.  for podge that would 
be like rochester?  his bday is this saturday.

mk

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ok, so the other nite i went to steak and shake with doug to one of his lil 
honda net meets......and i have to say that mw-net meets are way more fun.

they didnt even have ANY dildos.
--laura

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mcnerio@hotmail.com writes:

<< you know. its really funny stevie.  everyone warned me what a horrible 
 dancer you were.  then the first time i experienced it, you swung your arm 
 in to me and another girl standing right next to you. nice move.  i'm sure 
 thats one you learned from your "dancing crew". >>

ahhhh...it's michael's e-tard buddy!!

glad you finally sobered up!!

unfortunately, i've never had the oppurtunity to dance
with you...this may be due to the fact that you are usually
in the e-puddles suckin on a pacifier givin other girl
back massages...no wonder dancers have been kickin 
you in the head so much...you've been takin up valuable
dance space, you nit wit!!

so tell me how many pills did michael promise you to
type all that B.S.?!...especially when i don't have a
"dance cru"!?

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In a message dated 1/23/01 11:14:30 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< fuck if i know, ya fuckin cunt!  hahah. >>




hey now..  *cunt* should only be used if...

oh nevermind.


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Yeah... and Podge too... Do you know where any of those guys are? or what
they are up to?


tad


At 09:40 PM 1/23/01 -0600, michael knight wrote:
>
>>I remember going into the bathroom... and overhearing ?Farqhar? and
?Melkior?
>>discussing random things and asking if I knew the secret of "cordorouy."
>
>ha!  i totally forgot about those guys!  i was at some party once and 
>farqhwar came up to me with a rubber fish and put on this thick indian 
>accent and goes "IN MY COUNTRY, IS HONOUR TO BE HIT WITH FISH!" and then he 
>hit me with it!  hahahahaha.  those guys were in the air force too.  i hope 
>they didn't fly planes.  scarey!
>
>>Growing up sucks... but not moving on sucks too.
>
>ahhhhh.  word.
>
>mk
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In a message dated 1/23/01 11:29:03 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Applesawz909@aol.com writes:

<< they didnt even have ANY dildos.
 --laura >>



dildos?


that only brings one name to mind.

s00zi.


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----- Original Message -----
From: Topping, Micah <micah.topping@eds.com>

> opinion: 1a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a
> particular matter
> real: 1a : of or relating to fixed, permanent, or immovable things (as
lands
> or tenements)
>
> to combine, a real opinion is a  fixed, permanent, or immovable view,
> judgement or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
>
> using a cliche leads me to believe that that opinion is not actually
formed
> in the mind but adopted because of popular sway



Kinda like using a dictionary.

>
>
>  agree or disagree, i dont really care, i've been at work too long and i
> havent even gotten lunch(i guess thats what it would be called even
working
> at night)
> grar


Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to lighten up - have fun -
and relax.

Agree or disagree, there's a hell of a lot of evidence that power corrupts
and not much to say that it doesn't. Just a thought, but hell you know my
opinions aren't real, as I often reference the words of others.


http://idropper.iuma.com


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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

+hey now..  *cunt* should only be used if...

lemme guess... if you're telling the bitch to arch her back?
as in the old cliche "arch your back, you dumb cunt"???  

chad

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> Kinda like using a dictionary.
no a dictionary is used to define the terms used after the opinion has been
voiced
to those that don't have a large enough grasp on the english language to
understand

> Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to lighten 
> up - have fun -
> and relax.
i seriously think you are talking to the wrong person here

> Agree or disagree, there's a hell of a lot of evidence that 
> power corrupts
> and not much to say that it doesn't. Just a thought, but hell 
> you know my
> opinions aren't real, as I often reference the words of others.
actually there isnt any evidence to suggest that power corrupts, there
is plenty of evidence that people with power sometimes act in corrupt ways
any inferences as to the cause and effect of that corruption, be it power
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In a message dated 1/23/01 11:51:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< lemme guess... if you're telling the bitch to arch her back?
 as in the old cliche "arch your back, you dumb cunt"???  
 
 chad >>





YOU GUESSED IT RIGHT CHAD!!!!

!sandwiches chad

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*files* that one away...


tad


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>+hey now..  *cunt* should only be used if...
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Subject: Re: [mw] i can't believe

you'd think that in so many years of meaningless blathering on the 
internet, you'd know enough not to cut and paste someone's private reply to 
you back into the public thread.

not only that, but you talked shit about one of the only people on the 
planet i actually care about, and now if i see you out anywhere i'm going 
to seriously fuck you up.  you'll apologize if you have to do it without a 
single tooth left in your head, you worthless bitch.

get the fuck out of my country,
mk

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In a message dated 1/24/01 12:05:31 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< get the fuck out of my country >>


right now... I do believe its gwbush's country.
not yours.


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>right now... I do believe its gwbush's country.
>not yours.

well i'm sure he's got my back.  ;P

mwk

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wruw rave - wruw - cleveland
project x party - smart bar - cleveland
moby live - metropolis - cleveland
tidal rave - tone deaf and color blind - cleveland
emerald forest - ultraworld - baltimore
planet earth - caffeine - long island
biosphere - multiple eargasms - columbus
love bomb - zenith - delaware
imagine - UPS - cleveland
ONE - zap - columbus
family affair - UPS - canton
generator - ele-mental - columbus
interstellar outback 2 - untranslatable - kentucky
420 - spawntaneous - cleveland
april fools - local 13 - philly
metamorphosis - ele/pcp/collective - columbus
tilt - surreal - columbus

gosh, so many...i can't think...my head hurts
from argueing w/ rachel =\

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> > > Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches
> > > because they are
> > > true...
> > and all this time i thought things became cliched because 
> an amazingly
> high
> > number
> > of wannabe intellectuals can't form thoughts of their own 
> so they need
> > neatly phrased
> > quotes in order to simulate a real opinion.
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> So you were under the impression that only an opinion no one 
> else has ever
> held is a "real opinion" (whatever a "real opinion" is)... 
> Hmm... What was
> that about wannabe intellectuals?
well you are obviously a confused individual
i would hold my definition of "real opinion" to anything that
is truly an "opinion" an "opinion" being anything that is
truly felt and if you need cliches to convey your "true feelings"
or your "opinion" then yes you are a wannabe intellectual
because you honestly feel for something and can't
come up with anything intelligent enough on your own
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This is an invitation to check out the recently reworked Twilo.com
And a note to read the interview with me in the
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michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< get the fuck out of my country,
 mk >>

huh?!...this ain't the land of rape and honey, dorothy!!

back to mars you go, you hamster coveting anal glow-stick
beer bellied pregnant with greg kilborne's love child
alien crack fiend!!

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I am just being funny muther phucker.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, jes wrote:

> 
> > So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
> > think it's better to remain defenseless?  With that kind of thinking, I am
> > glad you don't own guns.
> 
> do they offer logic classes at iupui?
> what about english, or maybe grammar?
> how about don't take yourself too fucking seriously 101?
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Well, with the amount of pussy's in the city, she is right.  Most don't
know what to do. They would rather lay there and be raped than fight back.
A sad state of affairs if you ask me.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
>     What she's saying is guns are usually a pretty poor defense against guns
> because for 1, the person being attacked usually freaks out, and 2, if
> you're going to shoot someone, you just shoot them, you either get shot or
> you don't, it's not like another form of defense won't have equal results.
> It's unfortunate that your paranoia masks your ability to interperate
> others' words in a sane way.
> 
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
> 
> > So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
> > think it's better to remain defenseless?  With that kind of thinking, I am
> > glad you don't own guns.
> 
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These are in no particular order. Soon, my new website will be completed and the top 10 will be posted on there every 2 weeks so bookmark it :)

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what the fuck.
is this supposed to be funny too?
you fucking inhuman piece of shit DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING SAY THAT ANYBODY
WOULD EVER FUCKING LAY THERE AND BE RAPED THAN FIGHT BACK FUCK YOU FUCK
YOU FUCK YOU

> Well, with the amount of pussy's in the city, she is right.  Most don't
> know what to do. They would rather lay there and be raped than fight back.
> A sad state of affairs if you ask me.
> 
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:
> 
> > 
> >     What she's saying is guns are usually a pretty poor defense against guns
> > because for 1, the person being attacked usually freaks out, and 2, if
> > you're going to shoot someone, you just shoot them, you either get shot or
> > you don't, it's not like another form of defense won't have equal results.
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> > 
> > Matt Murphy
> > sound.light.motion
> > murph@mr.net
> > 
> > > So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
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> > > glad you don't own guns.
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Ok...
    How about this... instead of trying to put an age limit on those who want 
to have fun and stuff... how about getting rid of all the sick fucks who 
would take advantage of a girl and rape her???
                                        Nick

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does anyone know what city this is gonna be in? i heard rockford... anyways
is there anyone living in chicago who's planning on going and could hook me
up with a ride? i'd contribute gas money of course...
late

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Subject: Re: [mw] favorite parties

>> moby live - metropolis - cleveland


He blew!!!  DX-13 with Charley Lownoise and Mental Theo Live, now THAT was a
show!!

Prodigy at Metropolis was cool too...


>>tidal rave - tone deaf and color blind - cleveland


I hated that one, I felt all like an outsider because I wasn't chillin' with
the "in" crowd *cough*jimmiandcompany*cough*

Spaced Out was my fav from that era...



> >emerald forest - ultraworld - baltimore

Dave Trance playing Transglobal Underground, I literally cried.  (this was
Dee Lites last show, out doors, on a lake, surrounded on all sides by
mountains)


>> love bomb - zenith - delaware

HOLY SHIT!!!  This was the party of the year!!  Amzing vibe, and Scott Henry
played the most *twisted* set I had ever heard!

> >imagine - UPS - cleveland

one guy : BUDDY FISHER, never heard him again after that night =(  He played
the darkest NY/wildpitch House, at like -8 the whole time, chunky as hell...


>> interstellar outback 2 - untranslatable - kentucky

uhh, 1 was better (despite the "issues")


>> 420 - spawntaneous - cleveland

ummm, and spawntaneous AND psychoactive...

>> metamorphosis - ele/pcp/collective - columbus

This is the last time I ever commit a OT crime...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

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>  DX-13 with Charley Lownoise and Mental Theo Live, now THAT was a
>show!!

!@#$%@#$^#$&%#^&

this happened in cleveland?!?!?!?  CL&MT PLAYED LIVE IN CLEVELAND?!

can you please elaborate on this, sir?

mk

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Does any1 know if there are any good raves soon in or around the 
Cincinatti/Dayton Ohio area???
Thanx
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Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
 purchase presale early to avoid waiting in line 
 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
 The Other Side.  (513) 671-5999
 Culture 7  (614) 297-0998
 
 Tons of Free give aways. Arrive Early
 
 Guest list is limited. Call (513) 272-2489 by Jan 20th
 
 This event is being held in a 100% Legal,Clean,Heated Venue.
 Do Not bring Drugs.Alcohal,Weapons,Markers or Bad Vibes
 Firm and Friendly Security will be on hand all night
 There will be Food and Drinks for sale all night
 
 Dj Hardware
 Hardware World/1Groove.com/FL
 
 DJ Hardware has started his mission to conquer the world. From spinning at 
remote outdoor raves, and warehouse parties to headlining major events across 
the globe. Hardware is taking his unique style of mixing to the masses. 
Whether it's hard trance, funky breaks or acid-house, he's a force to be 
reckoned with when it comes to energizing a crowd. 
 
 
 AK1200 
 P.A.M/Orlando,FL
 
 A true pioneer in  Drum an Bass in the US and UK.from being the first 
American DJ to play on UK pirate radio.To the '96 release of "you hear me 
talking". a breakthrough DnB tack for the masses. He continues to headline 
clubs and raves Worldwide. Dont miss the Sweet DnB sounds AK1200
 
 Dj Bam Bam
 UC music/Contaminated/Chicago IL
 
 Whether its in the studio making rave anthems and setting new standards in 
producing or dropping the tight blends that make the dancefloor bounce with 
the  nasty scratching that leaves onlookers' jaws drop, DJ Bam Bam has 
established himself to be a top DJ not to be missed
 
 Twilight Sleep  Live P.A
 Zeropoint Records/Cincinnati
 
 This 5 piece live drum an bass orchestra is gaining world recognition at 
warp speed.The only thing better than hearing these guys play is watching 
them do it Live!!!
 
 Nathan Profit   Live P.A
 Two Tigers/Columbus
 
 Creating some of the most amazing trance sounds in the Midwest.come watch as 
he opens your mind,body and soul Live!!!
 
 Infinite Grey  Live P.A
 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
back to start off the year.Check the tech house wizard as he brings it back 
Live!!!
 
 Negative Zero  Live P.A
 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
 Columbus's best kept secret. This is a debut performance you dont want to 
miss. as he produces his own unique hybrid of trance and breaks.
 
 React
 Subsonik/Cincinnati
 
 React is the man behind Subsonik and driving force in the underground. come 
check out his funky, pounding techno selections that rock the crowd into a 
frenzy.
 
 Matt Freeman
 Octane/Dayton
 
 Finishing up a new mix cd.Matts versatile House sounds and skills take him 
to Detroit for New Years and Australia in April and then off on a US summer 
tour.Come Matt as he brings down the House!
 
 Main Info Line:
 (513) 588 9479
 e mail: jomamaproductions@cinci.rr.com
 
 Support Lines:
 
 Two Tigers (614) 232-6677 -Columbus
                  (216) 485-7777 -Cleveland
 FlashPoint (937) 229-9203 -Dayton
 Subsonik (513) 682-3282 -Cincy
 Digital 54  (216) 556-2969 -Cleveland
 
 Check Out our website
 www.jomamaproductions.homestead.com
 
 www.2tigers.org
 www.hyperreal.org
 subsonik.linenoiz.com
 
 madd thanks to anyone who has ever supported us
ArcAngel4935@aol.com writes:

<< Does any1 know if there are any good raves soon in or around the 
 Cincinatti/Dayton Ohio area???
 Thanx
 Nick >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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>Does any1 know if there are any good raves soon in or around the
>Cincinatti/Dayton Ohio area???

there's two events in the dayton area this saturday.  my crew is doing a 
smaller, more intimate event that is 100% (happy) hardcore...so if you are 
into the hardcore sounds and the family atomosphere, there's that.  peep 
the website for details www.americancheese.org or watch for the e-flyer 
tommorrow.  if you're not into hardcore or you prefer a full-scale rave 
blowout, there's an event called "synchronicity" that people on the list 
can give you details on.  :)

mk

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http://www.eventnation.com/event.html?event_number=316
and
http://www.eventnation.com/event.html?event_number=426

I can't guarantee that they'll be good, though.

Scott


At 01:35 AM 1/24/2001 -0500, you wrote:
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>Cincinatti/Dayton Ohio area???
>Thanx
>Nick
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:46:17 EST TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
>about these *free* raves put on in CA. 
>
>http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20010123/3008172s.htm

</lurk>

there's also a positive [media positivity about raves?? imagine that!] article about the whole SF dotcom-geek scene in the sf chronicle at the following link:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/01/21/BU55962.DTL

[hopefully that link doesn't wrap all funny for y'all]

i'm good friends with sameer from urban wasteland...he's doing some really cool things with his dot com millions....parties out in the old warehouse district in the east bay....free and renegade. damn good music too, hard techno, electro, jungle [and no prog anything thank godz]...awesome locations with stunning views of the bay bridge, SF skyline, and great big crane industrial looking thingies....anyway yeah those cloudfactory/urban wasteland/friends n family cats are all sooper cool peoplez...sometimes their parties are free renegade style and sometimes not....but always good vibez and very little massive lameness.

check out sameers site:

http://www.bpm.ai/

and if yer into the whole linux geek scene just do a websearch on sameer parekh and peruse all his interviews and whatnot....definitely a smart fella.

<lurk>

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Ok, but only once.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, j3s wrote:

> 
> what the fuck.
> is this supposed to be funny too?
> you fucking inhuman piece of shit DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING SAY THAT ANYBODY
> WOULD EVER FUCKING LAY THERE AND BE RAPED THAN FIGHT BACK FUCK YOU FUCK
> YOU FUCK YOU
> 
> > Well, with the amount of pussy's in the city, she is right.  Most don't
> > know what to do. They would rather lay there and be raped than fight back.
> > A sad state of affairs if you ask me.
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > >     What she's saying is guns are usually a pretty poor defense against guns
> > > because for 1, the person being attacked usually freaks out, and 2, if
> > > you're going to shoot someone, you just shoot them, you either get shot or
> > > you don't, it's not like another form of defense won't have equal results.
> > > It's unfortunate that your paranoia masks your ability to interperate
> > > others' words in a sane way.
> > > 
> > > Matt Murphy
> > > sound.light.motion
> > > murph@mr.net
> > > 
> > > > So, you know /think people may go nuts and start attacking others, but you
> > > > think it's better to remain defenseless?  With that kind of thinking, I am
> > > > glad you don't own guns.
> > > 
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Supream court says we cannot kill them.  Sorry.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 ArcAngel4935@aol.com wrote:

> Ok...
>     How about this... instead of trying to put an age limit on those who want 
> to have fun and stuff... how about getting rid of all the sick fucks who 
> would take advantage of a girl and rape her???
>                                         Nick
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On 24 Jan 2001 07:40:02 -0000 "you.eff.owe.t3chno" <dis_c0@disinfo.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:46:17 EST TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
>>about these *free* raves put on in CA. 


i'm gonna be a stevie and reply to myself here but i just wanted to post a quote from sameer's website about free parties:

Free, all-volunteer parties may seem to be at odds with a strong capitalist nature, but Sameer disagrees, "The best way to provide the most value to the partygoer is by involving him or her at a fundamental level with the party and giving them the opportunity to establish a sense of ownership. Similarly, in a corporate setting, giving your customers a sense of ownership and identification with yourselves is an excellent way to preserve consumer loyalty." 


heh it's funny but that's the way he is.  :)

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jes@pubnix.org writes:

<< what the fuck.
 is this supposed to be funny too?
 you fucking inhuman piece of shit DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING SAY THAT ANYBODY
 WOULD EVER FUCKING LAY THERE AND BE RAPED THAN FIGHT BACK FUCK YOU FUCK
 YOU FUCK YOU >>

lol...i got wacked by a spatula & had uncooked pasta
thrown at me tonight for yawning at rachel!!...apparently
she considered it to be very disrespectful when i was
only yawning from having to get up so early to take her 
to her interview...

and then she wouldn't let go off my clothes when i got
up to leave!!

lol, i've been abused by girls before...i used to date a
riotgrrl, now she was hardcore!!...she could kick pixie's 
ass easy!!...she had a shaved except for a devil's lock
...lol, she knew she wanted me and she got me!!...i was
her first guy too...she was a lesbian before she met me
...and she squirted too...she was fun =)

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Subject: Re: [mw] favorite parties

: family affair - UPS - canton
: generator - ele-mental - columbus
: interstellar outback 2 - untranslatable - kentucky
: metamorphosis - ele/pcp/collective - columbus
: tilt - surreal - columbus
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as much as i hate the idea of agreeing with you, these 5 parties certainly
kicked ass, very very very much so...though id add IO 3 and all of the
family affairs

-THE bitch iySyS-

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Sounds like my kind of girl.  Cannot wait till I move back out.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

> jes@pubnix.org writes:
> 
> << what the fuck.
>  is this supposed to be funny too?
>  you fucking inhuman piece of shit DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING SAY THAT ANYBODY
>  WOULD EVER FUCKING LAY THERE AND BE RAPED THAN FIGHT BACK FUCK YOU FUCK
>  YOU FUCK YOU >>
> 
> lol...i got wacked by a spatula & had uncooked pasta
> thrown at me tonight for yawning at rachel!!...apparently
> she considered it to be very disrespectful when i was
> only yawning from having to get up so early to take her 
> to her interview...
> 
> and then she wouldn't let go off my clothes when i got
> up to leave!!
> 
> lol, i've been abused by girls before...i used to date a
> riotgrrl, now she was hardcore!!...she could kick pixie's 
> ass easy!!...she had a shaved except for a devil's lock
> ...lol, she knew she wanted me and she got me!!...i was
> her first guy too...she was a lesbian before she met me
> ...and she squirted too...she was fun =)
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: interstellar outback 2 - untranslatable - kentucky

oh and IO2 was in eolia missouri
IO 1 and 3 were in kentucky

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baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< hough id add IO 3 and all of the
 family affairs
 
 -THE bitch iySyS- >>

you liked all thee family affairs?!...and THEE bitch iysys
agreeing with me...<wimper> <wimper> {wipes tear from eye}

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baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< oh and IO2 was in eolia missouri
 IO 1 and 3 were in kentucky
 
 -THE bitch iySyS- >>

right on...i meant untranslatable is from kentucky, lexington
...but ya i took the 9 hour drive van style from
cleveland to missouri for IO2...it was a very significant
party spiritually, because it happened right around the birth 
of the white buffalo...and gubu charn was there...the one
who did that chant to help resurrect chinagirl...

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This is a freestyle...I really don't care because I can't because I am
really not thinking and that almost feels good...anyway...I am on that cloud
that I find sometimes and it is one of a hedonistic nature...the rock-star
in me...tonite was one of those nights wear everything was everything...I
went out and received tons of love and had many drinks and good
conversations...I saw old friends and got that warm feeling of the days of
old...music was music and the people who felt it felt it...chemistry was in
the air and the boy meets girls episode was airing all around...It's strange
when you can actually see progression...remembering back 4 years and now
seeing some of the people who have their shit together and those who are on
the path to get their shit together...buying shots and drinking to the shit
that back in the day really meant something to you and now you look at it
and all you can do is drink or toast to it...friends letting go of the
bullshit differences that we keep inside because once you really declare a
friend that is what they are no matter what...where am I going with this I
have no clue...it's just science on my mind...

.................................................................
Kenya DuBois
www.mp3.com/kenyadubois
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From mw-raves-return-15262-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 11:49:33 2001
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theres a bunch of stuff going on...synchronicity this weekend, positive 3 in
march, lift happens thursdays with a wide variety of guests, gravity bass, a
drum and bass night runs every tuesday, theres a club night called activ-8
in dayton every wednesday...im sure theres a few more things going on, but
get out to the clubs and im sure you will find flyers...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, oh 45206
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djoracle@onebox.com  www.djoracle.com

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> Does any1 know if there are any good raves soon in or around the
> Cincinatti/Dayton Ohio area???
> Thanx
> Nick
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----- Original Message -----
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> > Kinda like using a dictionary.
> no a dictionary is used to define the terms used after the opinion has
been
> voiced
> to those that don't have a large enough grasp on the english language to
> understand


You're just quibbling trying to justify saying something as dumb as "neener
neener your opinions aren't real." Cumon guy, admit it, it was a dumb thing
to say.



>
> > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to lighten
> > up - have fun -
> > and relax.
> i seriously think you are talking to the wrong person here


You're definately right on that count. I was bored last night so I just
thought I'd toss a few rocks in the pond and watch the ripples. Please don't
take it personally.



>
> > Agree or disagree, there's a hell of a lot of evidence that
> > power corrupts
> > and not much to say that it doesn't. Just a thought, but hell
> > you know my
> > opinions aren't real, as I often reference the words of others.
> actually there isnt any evidence to suggest that power corrupts, there
> is plenty of evidence that people with power sometimes act in corrupt ways
> any inferences as to the cause and effect of that corruption, be it power
> or something else is simply that, an inference



O man, talk about a semantic two step. You'd make a great politician. "I'm
not corrupt, I just sometimes act in corrupt ways and any inference as to
the cause is just that, an inference. NYAH! Now gimme more power!"




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> > > So you were under the impression that only an opinion no one
> > else has ever
> > held is a "real opinion" (whatever a "real opinion" is)...
> > Hmm... What was
> > that about wannabe intellectuals?

> well you are obviously a confused individual


Yeah, "obviously".


> i would hold my definition of "real opinion" to anything that
> is truly an "opinion" an "opinion" being anything that is
> truly felt and if you need cliches to convey your "true feelings"
> or your "opinion" then yes you are a wannabe intellectual
> because you honestly feel for something and can't
> come up with anything intelligent enough on your own
> that you have to constantly pull out cliches
> then yes that makes you a wannabe intellectual


Of course you're right. Anyone who illustrates their point with the words of
others is a wannabe intelectual, far beneath your notice. In fact, I can't
even understand why you bother responding to an idiot like me. Truely, I
can't understand why you don't rule the world, since you're obviously the
only true intellectual with real opinions that ever existed. Tell me, how
did you get to be so smart without ever relying on the knowledge of others?


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--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> >Yeah... and Podge too... Do you know where any of
> those guys are? or what
> >they are up to?

i saw podge about a year and a half ago. i'm also
wondering whatever happened to patsy and poppy

reminisce,
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--- ArcAngel4935@aol.com wrote:
> Ok...
>     How about this... instead of trying to put an
> age limit on those who want 
> to have fun and stuff... how about getting rid of
> all the sick fucks who 
> would take advantage of a girl and rape her???

because, unfortunately, they don't come with "i'm a
sick fuck-i like to rape girls" tattooed on their
forehead.



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  What makes someone a wannabe intellectual and is there such thing as a
not-wannabe-intellectual? I don't want pretend to have superior intellect to
everyone else, I don't, I just enjoy discussing issues with other people
that most people dread talking about. Who says you can't talk about religion
and politics? I don't buy it. 
  Cliches have nothing to do with forming your own opinion. Cliches are
popular because many times the best way to sum up an idea in a simple and
direct manner, has already been thought of by someone else.

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> Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches 
> because they are
> true...
and all this time i thought things became cliched because an amazingly high
number
of wannabe intellectuals can't form thoughts of their own so they need
neatly phrased
quotes in order to simulate a real opinion.

guess yer right tho

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>Well, you know what they say... Things only become cliches because they are
>true...

what!  nobody says that.  stereotypes happen because they are true.  you've 
got your cliches mixed up!  particularly the self-referential ones!

Well, we could open a whole can of worms about what is true and what is
perception. Things become cliches because those ideas are shared by so many.
The same applies to stereotypes.

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opinion: 1a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a
particular matter  - based on past experiences or information heard from or
written by someone else (i.e. through cliches, history books, etc.)

real: 1a : of or relating to fixed, permanent, or immovable things (as lands
or tenements) - one person's perception

to combine, a real opinion is a  fixed, permanent, or immovable view,
judgement or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter

on the contrary, an opinion is not fixed, permanent or immovable it is your
idea on a particular subject at any given time. some opinions change when
other evidence presents itself or when swayed by peer pressure

using a cliche leads me to believe that that opinion is not actually formed
in the mind but adopted because of popular sway	

as i said before a cliche is a good way to express an opinion generally held
by many people, but not necessarily un-original



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From mw-raves-return-15270-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 14:50:15 2001
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actually there isnt any evidence to suggest that power corrupts, there
is plenty of evidence that people with power sometimes act in corrupt ways
any inferences as to the cause and effect of that corruption, be it power
or something else is simply that, an inference


Micah,
   
 Could I suggest go into law? You could make some killer money.

Noble

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From mw-raves-return-15271-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 14:54:08 2001
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Yeah, we could put the machine on all those who like a little bit of the
ultra-violence.....

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Ok...
    How about this... instead of trying to put an age limit on those who
want 
to have fun and stuff... how about getting rid of all the sick fucks who 
would take advantage of a girl and rape her???
                                        Nick

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From mw-raves-return-15272-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 16:04:29 2001
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> << they didnt even have ANY dildos.
>  --laura >>
>
>
>
> dildos?
>
>
> that only brings one name to mind.
>
> s00zi.

    No, a second definitely comes to mind, Jen Sixtybus, although her famous
"plurbat" was given to her by s00zi.

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From mw-raves-return-15273-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 16:26:21 2001
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Yah there is a lot of this going on in SF..Basically it's the only way to go
to a good party anymore out here is to hit a small underground. There's
usually a few UG's going on each weekend and all bring different styles
which is cool. I'll vouch for cloudfactory they are probably one of the best
promoters in the Bay area..if any of you are ever in the bay area I'd try to
check out a smaller party before going to some big massive, they definatly
lack that midwest vibe..

Just my 2 Cents

James





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On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:46:17 EST TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

>about these *free* raves put on in CA. 

>

>http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20010123/3008172s.htm



</lurk>



there's also a positive [media positivity about raves?? imagine that!]
article about the whole SF dotcom-geek scene in the sf chronicle at the
following link:



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/01/21
/BU55962.DTL



[hopefully that link doesn't wrap all funny for y'all]



i'm good friends with sameer from urban wasteland...he's doing some really
cool things with his dot com millions....parties out in the old warehouse
district in the east bay....free and renegade. damn good music too, hard
techno, electro, jungle [and no prog anything thank godz]...awesome
locations with stunning views of the bay bridge, SF skyline, and great big
crane industrial looking thingies....anyway yeah those cloudfactory/urban
wasteland/friends n family cats are all sooper cool peoplez...sometimes
their parties are free renegade style and sometimes not....but always good
vibez and very little massive lameness.



check out sameers site:



http://www.bpm.ai/



and if yer into the whole linux geek scene just do a websearch on sameer
parekh and peruse all his interviews and whatnot....definitely a smart
fella.



<lurk>



dis=c0!

you.eff.owe.t3chno


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... cause I sure am!

not at all sick of the current threads,

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chris,

  i've got an idea. how about you, micah, and any other mw-raver, post a
message every morning with the "Approved" topics of discussion. that way we
could have some conformity on this list. if anyone strays from the
conformity, we all call them a conpiracy theorist, a nutbag, a wannabe
intellectual, a candy raver, or an uncle tom. that should teach people to be
individuals!

i just want to fit in....
noble


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back in the day oldschool cops argument?



... cause I sure am!

not at all sick of the current threads,

chris


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>i was her first guy too...she was a lesbian before she met me

she probably thought you were a woman.

more cheap pops,
mk
________________________________________________________________________
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michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org
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You forgot that there is always Pole Smoking Tuesdays at Gabes house. Theres
Rim Job Thursdays there too but I heard that the response is less than
enthusiastic due to Gabe licking to many unwashed rectums, so thursdays
might get cancelled. From what I hear Tuesdays are $1 or $3 if you want him
to take it on the face $5 if you want him to swallow. Thursdays are $2 if
you want basic licking and $5 if you want you sphincter orally massaged.

glad he doesn't go to either nite
shawne
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> theres a bunch of stuff going on...synchronicity this weekend, positive 3
in
> march, lift happens thursdays with a wide variety of guests, gravity bass,
a
> drum and bass night runs every tuesday, theres a club night called activ-8
> in dayton every wednesday...im sure theres a few more things going on, but
> get out to the clubs and im sure you will find flyers...
>
> dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
> 940-b morris court cincinnati, oh 45206
> booking line: 513.766.2007 x1429
> djoracle@onebox.com  www.djoracle.com
>
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> > Does any1 know if there are any good raves soon in or around the
> > Cincinatti/Dayton Ohio area???
> > Thanx
> > Nick
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-----Original Message-----
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>Have you ever heard of Kurt
> Waldheim? He was the UN secretary general from 1973-1983. He was also a
high
> ranking Nazi SS officer during WWII.


He was a Nazi Intellegence officer, not an SS...

details, details

It was a foolish decision on the UN's half, yes.  But need I remind you of
our own foolish votes?

you don't remind me of america's voting record. all i have to do is turn on
the TV. our government in this country is far, far, far, far, far from
perfect, but that need not mean that we do another foolish thing like
support a corrupt global government.

just my opinion...take it for what it's worth.

Noble

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ok

"CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE CLICHES PEOPLE!"

Noble

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> Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
CAN WE PLEASE STOP THE CLICHES PEOPLE!

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

-->
-->>i was her first guy too...she was a lesbian before she met me
-->
-->she probably thought you were a woman.
-->
-->more cheap pops,
-->mk

that's pretty good.  but in response to "she was a lesbian before she
met me," I probably would have gone with something like - 

and she was probably a lesbian afterwards.

cranky as fuck,
gd


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-----Original Message-----
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> When was the last time you voted for your UN representative?

The last time was when I voted for all my representitives in congress,
which
voted assigned possition for me, representitively, for the US =
Ambassador
to
the UN.  When was the last time you directly voted for anything other
than
district representation or executive possition?  Never, because you
can't,
we do not live in a direct democracy, nor is a direct democracy =
possible
in
the states...

my whole point was the level of seperation between the representative =
and
the represented in this country vs. the UN. I don't want a direct =
democracy
unless it's a trial by a jury of my peers, I just prefer local
representation to a global one.


And the last thing I would want on the jury of Slobidon Milosovich or
any
war situation would be ordinary people, ill-educated people...

even if you could make the assumption that all citizens are =
ill-educated
would
a jury of agenda filled people be better?

And, ummm, what definition of facism are you using here? =20

this one..

fas=B7cism (fshzm)=20
n.=20

Often Fascism=20
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a
dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the =
opposition
through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent
nationalism and racism.=20
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system =
of
government.=20
Oppressive, dictatorial control.=20

Noble

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Subject: [mw] YELLOW 02.24.01

YELLOW
Saturday, February 24th, 2001
Indianapolis, Indiana

YELLOW is the color of gold, butter and ripe bananas.  YELLOW is the taste o=
f=20
sugar, cream and sour lemons.  YELLOW is the feel of skin, sand and old=20
paper.  YELLOW is the smell of saffron, jasmine and summer dandelions. =20
YELLOW is the SOUND of RHYTHM, BASS and brilliant MELODIES.

MAIN STAGE:

THEE-O
(Biohazard/ Til Dawn Entertainment)  Trance
Los Angeles California
Thee-o is best known for his talented mixing and scratching skills that have=
=20
gained him the reputation of being one of L.A.=E2=80=99s most original tranc=
e DJ=E2=80=99s. =20
His talents have landed him residencies at Club Magic and Club Blue in=20
Hollywood, where he has delivered epic DJ sets, always proving that he can=20
take his audience to new heights in music.  We are proud to bring you one of=
=20
America=E2=80=99s most well respected trance DJ=E2=80=99s for his first appe=
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the Circle City!

DJ MINX=20
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Detroit Michigan
We believe it is imperative to seek out the freshest and most promising new=20
talent in our electronic community!  In the beginning, Minx found herself=20
playing powerful house and techno on Deep Space Radio (107.5 FM) with Detroi=
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music pioneers Juan Atkins, Eddie Flashin=E2=80=99 Fowlkes, and Derrick May.=
  Soon=20
after she began her residency at the world famous Motor Club in detroit whic=
h=20
eventually led her to Paris, Madrid, Berlin, and beyond.  Between innovation=
=20
and creation you will hear her sexy minxes.

JONATHAN KEITH=20
(Scarab Records/ WRZX =E2=80=9CPlanet X=E2=80=9D)  Deep House

K-STEP
(House of Babylon/ Missing Link Records)  Drum and Bass

VIBE-RAIDER
(La Mierda/ Missing Link Records)  Drum and Bass

TAYLOR
(Scarab Records)  House

VIRULENT
(PBS)  Techno

STAGE TWO:  Featuring the cultural music of world famous Mariachi bands from=
=20
around the globe.  A unique Scarab twist.

Vibrant Cyber Lighting:  In hues of anilin, Manchester, platinum and gamboge=
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Turbo Driven Concert Sound the likes of which few have yellow heard.

Yellow:  10pm-6am

Violet:  $20 at the door (no pre-sale)

Violet, you=E2=80=99re turning violet, Violet!

FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT SCARAB RECORDS @

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SHINE   -   PRE-FLYER OUT NOW!!!
Saturday, March 31st, 2001
Indianapolis, Indiana

Scarab Records is very proud to present a truly one-of-a-kind event . . . 
SHINE!!!

Featuring:

APHRODITE + More Talent TBA . . . 

APHRODITE is the most well known Drum & Bass DJ and Producer in the world.  
We are proud to bring you this rare and exclusive appearance by the man who 
has been described by Rolling Stone Magazine as, "the pinnacle of jungle, 
majestic and infectious, dark and atmospheric, the very essence of pure drum 
and bass beautifully choreographed into every mix . . . a true pioneer."
Featuring the first appearance of APHRODITE in Indianapolis, SHINE will prove 
to be the biggest electronic music event our city has ever seen!

More headliners to be announced . . . 

Stay tuned!

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>i saw podge about a year and a half ago. i'm also
>wondering whatever happened to patsy and poppy

last time i saw patsy she was working at max & erma's at the city center in 
columbus.  i'm pretty sure she was still living with paul in columbus as 
recently as august.  poppy, i have no idea on that one - ?

mk
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yellow is the color of my piss

Lofiglam@aol.com writes:

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 YELLOW is the color of gold, butter and ripe bananas.  YELLOW is the taste 
of 
 sugar, cream and sour lemons.  YELLOW is the feel of skin, sand and old 
 paper.  YELLOW is the smell of saffron, jasmine and summer dandelions.  
 YELLOW is the SOUND of RHYTHM, BASS and brilliant MELODIES.
  >>


Gabe
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when you've got friends liek this who needs enemies???

shawne@zoomtown.com writes:

<< You forgot that there is always Pole Smoking Tuesdays at Gabes house. 
Theres
 Rim Job Thursdays there too but I heard that the response is less than
 enthusiastic due to Gabe licking to many unwashed rectums, so thursdays
 might get cancelled. From what I hear Tuesdays are $1 or $3 if you want him
 to take it on the face $5 if you want him to swallow. Thursdays are $2 if
 you want basic licking and $5 if you want you sphincter orally massaged.
 
 glad he doesn't go to either nite
 shawne >>


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    And now we see why someone was stealing his flyers...

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> yellow is the color of my piss
>
> Lofiglam@aol.com writes:
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> <<
>  YELLOW is the color of gold, butter and ripe bananas.  YELLOW is the
taste
> of
>  sugar, cream and sour lemons.  YELLOW is the feel of skin, sand and old
>  paper.  YELLOW is the smell of saffron, jasmine and summer dandelions.
>  YELLOW is the SOUND of RHYTHM, BASS and brilliant MELODIES.
>   >>
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yeah but i dont piss on our flyers ;)

murph@mr.net writes:

<<  And now we see why someone was stealing his flyers...
 
 Matt Murphy
 sound.light.motion
 murph@mr.net
 
 > yellow is the color of my piss >>


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<< i was her first guy too...she was a lesbian before she met me >>

my ex girlfriend was a lesbian too...and she still is.  ::sigh:: i was her 
experiment.  didnt ever see the end of that relationship comin...aaron.

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In a message dated 1/24/01 12:31:41 PM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net 
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<<  And now we see why someone was stealing his flyers... >>

was it a clone party or something??  aaron.

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ahhhh.  but what if Tony pissed on your flyers?  

i'm reminded of this picture i saw in the Psychedelic's Encyclopedia
of an invitation to one of Timothy Leary's "parties."  It was a piece
of paper with the relevant info (date, time, place, etc.), but
polybagged with a ominous looking sugar cube inside.

WARNING: your hosts recommend that you do not consume more than two of
our flyers in one sitting.

-g

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:

-->yeah but i dont piss on our flyers ;)
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umm, isn't 16 legal in many Midwest states? heh-heh. 
j - symmetric - feeling like a dirty old man
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> I think 17+ (with valad Id) is reasonable and fare at
> parties!
> NOTHING ELSE YOUNGER
> anyone else agree?



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YELLOW

Yellow is the color of mind -- the intellect and intelligence of man. It is
the color for study and learning. It is brightness, newness, and
open-mindedness. This color inspires creativity and new thought. Yellow is a
stimulant to the nerves and is recommended for cases of paralysis and
strokes. It increases the appetite and aids in nutrition. Yellow stimulates
the heart, liver and gall bladder and is used for stomach disorders. This is
the color most effective in cases of intestinal disorders. It stimulates the
circulatory system. Yellow and the area it controls almost overlaps the
areas of orange, so these colors are generally interchangeable in this
region. In cases of arthritis and neuritis, yellow assists in loosening
calcium deposits. This is also the color to use for diabetes.

Positive values: happiness, artistry, creativity, relaxation, cheerfulness,
open-mindedness, imagination.

Negative values: craftiness, deceptiveness, malice, pessimism, meanness,
treason, vindictiveness, exaggeration, cowardice.

Yellow is the color of the intellect and imagination. If you like yellow,
you are a cheerful happy person who looks forward to the future. You welcome
change and new ideas. You have a nervous drive that seeks fulfillment for
yourself and leads you down many paths of investigation. Books and studies
appeal to you and you are intrigued by the mysterious and unexplained. You
are interested in the occult, and metaphysics holds a great deal of appeal
for you. You value your own image and would hesitate to do anything
unbecoming. You have a good capacity for reasoning and your judgments are
soundly formed. Intellectual ability impresses you and you are apt to become
impatient with the viewpoint of others, especially if you feel they are
unwilling to listen or to learn. You are optimistic about the future, and
believe in man's ability to conquer both inner and outer space. Sometimes
you feel yourself set apart from others as you cannot find others who share
your viewpoint or your capabilities. This does not depress you or change
your thinking in any way, for you remain cheerful and ready to proceed to
new intellectual frontiers regardless of the disbelief of the masses.

The higher the position of yellow in your favorite colors, the more positive
the values it represents. If you dislike yellow you reject newness and
exploration. You are content to let things remain as they are. There is no
need for space travel, or abstract thinking in your estimation. You have no
respect for imagination, and tend to reject new theories and philosophies.
Metaphysics will not appeal to you, and you believe that occult studies are
absolute nonsense. You wish to stick to your narrow little world and have no
understanding of the dreams and goals of others. You are limiting yourself
to a life that is barren of the fancies of imagination -- the path to
progress.

Yellow should be among the first four choices of your selection. If yellow
is listed among the last three choices, you are feeling lonely and
frustrated at times. It would be wise for you to develop new interests and
meet new people. This might help to overcome some of your inner conflicts.
It is unfortunately true that yellow is not one of the most popular colors.
Perhaps this might account for some of our problems in the world today.

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> <<  And now we see why someone was stealing his flyers... >>
> 
> was it a clone party or something??  aaron.

    I love you Aaron. =] 

Matt Murphy
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"when i go,
  to a bordello,
  open up the mouth of each bitch
  and dismiss the liquid that's yellow!"

mk, mark for necro
________________________________________________________________________
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Must be nice........

Distorted Grooves wrote:

> This is a freestyle...I really don't care because I can't because I am
> really not thinking and that almost feels good...anyway...I am on that cloud
> that I find sometimes and it is one of a hedonistic nature...the rock-star
> in me...tonite was one of those nights wear everything was everything...I
> went out and received tons of love and had many drinks and good
> conversations...I saw old friends and got that warm feeling of the days of
> old...music was music and the people who felt it felt it...chemistry was in
> the air and the boy meets girls episode was airing all around...It's strange
> when you can actually see progression...remembering back 4 years and now
> seeing some of the people who have their shit together and those who are on
> the path to get their shit together...buying shots and drinking to the shit
> that back in the day really meant something to you and now you look at it
> and all you can do is drink or toast to it...friends letting go of the
> bullshit differences that we keep inside because once you really declare a
> friend that is what they are no matter what...where am I going with this I
> have no clue...it's just science on my mind...
>
> .................................................................
> Kenya DuBois
> www.mp3.com/kenyadubois
> AOL Instant Messenger - KenyaDuBois
>
> Distorted Grooves
> www.distortedgrooves.com
> deep-downtempo-atmospheric-ambient
> www.mp3.com/stations/distortedgrooves
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From mw-raves-return-15299-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:05:35 2001
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how about we just brick your car and toilet paper your house.
put peanut butter all over ur cat and piss in your fish tank?
be alot cheaper than a lawyer

 Eye-D@dds.nl writes:

<< Sue me. >>


Gabe
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From mw-raves-return-15300-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:09:02 2001
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and it really sucks when ur g/f cheats on you with her x g/f...man that 
sucked.

not liek u can go beat her up!

OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com writes:

<< << i was her first guy too...she was a lesbian before she met me >>
 
 my ex girlfriend was a lesbian too...and she still is.  ::sigh:: i was her 
 experiment.  didnt ever see the end of that relationship comin...aaron. >>


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From mw-raves-return-15301-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:10:53 2001
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Subject: RE: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

yeah 17 is the limit for curfew in alot of states....

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:42 PM
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> 
> 
> umm, isn't 16 legal in many Midwest states? heh-heh. 
> j - symmetric - feeling like a dirty old man
> check out the Noize Boyz mailing list: 
> http://www.egroups.com/group/NoizeBoyz
> NoizeBoyz-subscribe@egroups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> > I think 17+ (with valad Id) is reasonable and fare at
> > parties!
> > NOTHING ELSE YOUNGER
> > anyone else agree?
> 
> 
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From mw-raves-return-15302-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:11:25 2001
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type the following at the command line -

whois microsoft.com

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From mw-raves-return-15303-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:13:04 2001
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Shouldn't that read one of the most talenless DJ' and Producer in the world?
Come on he's a joke. It's easy to take some crappy song and just put the
same bass line and structure over it and do it on every release....

Bored at work
James


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APHRODITE is the most well known Drum & Bass DJ and Producer in the world.  
We are proud to bring you this rare and exclusive appearance by the man who 
has been described by Rolling Stone Magazine as, "the pinnacle of jungle, 
majestic and infectious, dark and atmospheric, the very essence of pure drum

and bass beautifully choreographed into every mix . . . a true pioneer."
Featuring the first appearance of APHRODITE in Indianapolis, SHINE will
prove 
to be the biggest electronic music event our city has ever seen!

James Martin
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> 1-888-438-1221 ext 4014

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From mw-raves-return-15304-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:15:05 2001
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Yup!

.................................................................
Kenya DuBois
www.mp3.com/kenyadubois
AOL Instant Messenger - KenyaDuBois

Distorted Grooves
www.distortedgrooves.com
deep-downtempo-atmospheric-ambient
www.mp3.com/stations/distortedgrooves

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Must be nice........

Distorted Grooves wrote:

> This is a freestyle...I really don't care because I can't because I am
> really not thinking and that almost feels good...anyway...I am on that
cloud
> that I find sometimes and it is one of a hedonistic nature...the rock-star
> in me...tonite was one of those nights wear everything was everything...I
> went out and received tons of love and had many drinks and good
> conversations...I saw old friends and got that warm feeling of the days of
> old...music was music and the people who felt it felt it...chemistry was
in
> the air and the boy meets girls episode was airing all around...It's
strange
> when you can actually see progression...remembering back 4 years and now
> seeing some of the people who have their shit together and those who are
on
> the path to get their shit together...buying shots and drinking to the
shit
> that back in the day really meant something to you and now you look at it
> and all you can do is drink or toast to it...friends letting go of the
> bullshit differences that we keep inside because once you really declare a
> friend that is what they are no matter what...where am I going with this I
> have no clue...it's just science on my mind...
>
> .................................................................
> Kenya DuBois
> www.mp3.com/kenyadubois
> AOL Instant Messenger - KenyaDuBois
>
> Distorted Grooves
> www.distortedgrooves.com
> deep-downtempo-atmospheric-ambient
> www.mp3.com/stations/distortedgrooves
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:03:04PM -0500, Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:
> how about we just brick your car and toilet paper your house.
> put peanut butter all over ur cat and piss in your fish tank?
> be alot cheaper than a lawyer

Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.

And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the way to the
Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)

-- 
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From mw-raves-return-15306-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:19:48 2001
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stunt rock
t

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is there such thing as a
not-wannabe-intellectual? 

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From mw-raves-return-15307-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:22:04 2001
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well thanks for crushing my dreams!

atomly@atomly.com writes:

<< > how about we just brick your car and toilet paper your house.
 > put peanut butter all over ur cat and piss in your fish tank?
 > be alot cheaper than a lawyer
 
 Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.
 
 And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the way to the
 Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :) >>


Gabe
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> 
> chris,
> 
>   i've got an idea. how about you, micah, and any
> other mw-raver, post a
> message every morning with the "Approved" topics of
> discussion. 

that won't be necessary. simply refer to the mw-raves
fa-q, which is delivered to the list weekly and can
also be found on the mw-raves.org page

thank you very much,
the resident whore.




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i've never been asked, but i wouldn't mind.  heck, it might be fun.

"why is this flyer all wet?"

to enhance yr roll,
-t

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ahhhh.  but what if Tony pissed on your flyers?  

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you may not go, but why are you the only person who
ever knows about these "events?"

is there some other mailing list i'm unaware of?
*snicker*
pixie


--- shawne <shawne@zoomtown.com> wrote:
> You forgot that there is always Pole Smoking
> Tuesdays at Gabes house. Theres
> Rim Job Thursdays there too but I heard that the
> response is less than
> enthusiastic due to Gabe licking to many unwashed
> rectums, so thursdays
> might get cancelled. From what I hear Tuesdays are
> $1 or $3 if you want him
> to take it on the face $5 if you want him to
> swallow. Thursdays are $2 if
> you want basic licking and $5 if you want you
> sphincter orally massaged.
> 
> glad he doesn't go to either nite
> shawne


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>   i've got an idea. how about you, micah, and any other mw-raver, post a
> message every morning with the "Approved" topics of discussion. that way we
> could have some conformity on this list. if anyone strays from the
> conformity, we all call them a conpiracy theorist, a nutbag, a wannabe
> intellectual, a candy raver, or an uncle tom. that should teach people to be
> individuals!

approved:

any thread not started or perpetuated by noble long.

go to town,

chris


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> Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.
> 
> And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the
> way to the
> Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)

DUDE YOU ARE SO FUNNY!

DUDE!

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:29:43AM -0800, pixie wrote:
> DUDE YOU ARE SO FUNNY!
> 
> DUDE!

Wait.  What?  

Wait.


What?

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dude am i not funny?


stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< > Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.
 > 
 > And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the
 > way to the
 > Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)
 
 DUDE YOU ARE SO FUNNY!
 
 DUDE!
  >>


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The early and mid 80's: whatever was on the radio. INXS, Madonna, stuff like
that.
In 1987 Guns & Roses came along and whupped everybodies ass! Then Metallica
in 88. From there it was a descent into skate punk and thrash metal. I
started playing bass, and did like 800 Metallica covers in my bands.
But then, someone introduced me to Ministry and it was OVER! Metalli-who? In
92 I ate acid and heard Skinny Puppy...I now own everything they ever
released on CD and several vinyls. Still my favorite band. And they primed
the world to allow NIN a place to hate. Beautiful misery...
So here I am overcome by Industrial, from a metal background, but 91 and 92
were probably two of the best years for rock music, ever! Nirvana, Pearl
Jam, Soundgarden, the unfortunate demise of Jane's Addiction a year earlier,
the first two Smashing Pumpkins albums, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pixies,
Primus...it goes on and on. This was my renaissance period!
In 95 I moved from the cold empty landscapes of Wyoming to Texas, and there
I heard "electronic dance music." At first I didn't know what to think, it
was similiar to Puppy, but repetetive and annoyingly happy. Then more acid,
some house parties, and a few dj friends later and I was intrigued. The
artists that converted me: The Orb. Textures so deep and rhythms so moving I
didn't know if I wanted to, *gasp* dance!! or lay on the floor or
what...From the Orb I got very interested in Ambient, and as I had been
already been hooked on Reggae during my hippy-alternative life of the early
90's, Dub really got me. Then I heard the Prodigy. Holy crap! Dance music,
but with an edge!
I attended my first "real" event in April of 97. The Orb and the Chemical
Brothers at the Bomb Factory in Dallas. Still the best live show I've ever
seen. From there it's a blur of clubs, parties, having the biggest itch I've
ever had in my life...to buy turntables. Now I like hard trance. I'm liking
house more all the time. And if I weren't a trance dj, I'd be a junglist.
But I still play my bass sometimes...and rock&roll will never die!
j - symmetric
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----- Original Message -----
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>
>     Another interesting topic, what were you all into pre-techno?
>
>     I liked industrial music, before that it was whatever generic radio
shit
> came out, but before techno was industrial music. It was angry. I was
angry.
> It was a good relationship. Eventually I wasn't so angry anymore. Then I
> started listening to that fairy techno crap that was alot of fun to dance
> to. Now look at me...
>
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net


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--- Trancedanz@aol.com wrote:
> dude am i not funny?

DUDE!


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anything mocking noble long is encouraged.  thread will be upgraded to top
priority, "or super gold plus global elite" status,  if he gets
incredulous or shocked, and brings up censorship, conformity, or fascism.

thank you,

christian r. ege, king of mw-raves.


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from MW-Raves faq:

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MAN!

stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< DUDE! >>


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> from MW-Raves faq:
> 
> If you wish to send something to the list that you think readers will 
> enjoy/appreciate but is not related to the list topic, please put "NRR" 
> (Not Rave Related) at the beginning of the subject line, so that people
> can identify and ignore this message if they choose to.

this post is not approved.  it will be put on standby.  If you'd like, I
can get you a spot on a thread in pb-cle-raves, but it's got a 6 hour
layover in xenia.




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From mw-raves-return-15321-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:41:58 2001
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--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> from MW-Raves faq:
> 
> If you wish to send something to the list that you
> think readers will 
> enjoy/appreciate but is not related to the list
> topic, please put "NRR" 
> (Not Rave Related) at the beginning of the subject
> line, so that people
> can identify and ignore this message if they choose
to.

ALSO from the mw-raves fa-q:

This is the *midwest raves* mailing list, and the
posts should be 
restricted to this subject. Naturally, over time list
members get familiar
with each other and there is certainly room for an
>>occasional<< off-topic
post now and then. 

*shrug* it's okay. for the most part i started
following chrise's guidelines a long time ago; so, as
usual, i'm not worried about it.

seriously noble, no need to respond. if you really
feel the need to stroke your ego on this one, please
do it privately (i.e. in the bathroom) i'm not
interested, and i'd even venture to say that not many
others are either. of course, you are certainly
welcome to make an ass of yourself and ask.

pixie





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From mw-raves-return-15322-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 19:43:48 2001
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Subject: RE: [mw] an idea

also, i personally would greatly appreciate it if
you'd quit sending your mail both privately and to the
list. when sending mail, check your recipient list. if
it's going to the list, there is NO NEED for it to go
into my private mailbox as well.

that's the only guideline i'd care for you to really
pay attention to.
thanks
pixie

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Subject: [mw] HYBRID AND CARL COX IN ATLANTA

Liquified
Saturday February 17th 2001
'The Tabernacle' Atlanta GA

Join us for a unique celebration at one of the most impressive venues in the
country

Featuring a special interactive DJ set with live keyboards and synth from...

HYBRID
(distinctive records, UK)
Hybrid, are a Swansea-based collective with designs on the future of music.
They have become sought-after remixers, putting their production
skills to use on tracks for artists as varied as Jazzy Jeff, Carl Cox
and Alanis Morissette. Their debut album, Wide Angle, which has
been over a year  in the making - was born of Hybrid's frustration
with the narrow  horizons of British dance music; They wanted to
make the dance  form more melodic, more imaginative, bigger and
deeper than it  had ever been before. They have been featured on
the Northern Exposure series as well as the GU series, get ready
as they drop their hard hitting progressive breaks sound on Atlanta.


A man who needs no introduction, but we'll give him one anyway... one of the
original pioneers, who continues to educate the masses, breaking musical
boundaries and uniting people across the world for over a decade....

CARL COX
(www.djcarlcox.com, UK)

together with

KAZELL
(liquified, global grooves, LA)


Doors open at 9:00 pm - 3:00 AM
** THERE WILL BE AN OFFICIAL AFTER-HOURS EVENT ANNOUNCED ON THE NIGHT WITH
HYBRID DJING
18 and over welcome with ID

Due to venue polices tickets will only be available through Tabernacle box
office or ticketmaster.

Tickets are $25 + $1 booking fee at tabernacle box office 404-659-9022.
Tabernacle Box office hours are 10:00 am - 5:00 pm monday through friday.

Tickets are also Available at all Ticketmaster locations (venues policy)
but service charges are higher.

TICKETS GO ON SALE SATURDAY JANUARY 27TH 2001


The Tabernacle
Centennial Olympic Park
152 LUCKIE STREET
ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30303
WWW.TABERNACLEMUSIC.COM
404-659-9022


>From North of Atlanta:
Take 75/85 Southbound to Exit 99/Williams St.
Follow Williams St. to the end, take right on International
Take International to Techwood, take left
Tabernacle one block up on left.

>From South of Atlanta:
Take 75/85 Northbound to International Blvd. Exit
Follow International Blvd to the very end
Left on Techwood, Tabernacle one block up on left

>From East or West of Atlanta:
Take Interstate 20 toward Downtown Atlanta
Head North on 75/85 from Interstate 20
Take International Blvd Exit, follow International to very end
Left on Techwood, Tabernacle one block up on left

24hour info 404-257-2515 or www.liquified.com



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From mw-raves-return-15324-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 20:45:37 2001
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>super gold plus global elite

the "e" is for "elite" !

it's my job to keep punk rock elite,
mk

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From mw-raves-return-15325-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 20:46:44 2001
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Subject: RE: [mw] an idea

got it.  thanks.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:

-->also, i personally would greatly appreciate it if
-->you'd quit sending your mail both privately and to the
-->list. when sending mail, check your recipient list. if
-->it's going to the list, there is NO NEED for it to go
-->into my private mailbox as well.
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-->pay attention to.
-->thanks
-->pixie
-->
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From mw-raves-return-15326-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 20:52:53 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

Yes.  In Indiana 16 is legal, as long as you don't film it.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Symmetric wrote:

> umm, isn't 16 legal in many Midwest states? heh-heh. 
> j - symmetric - feeling like a dirty old man
> check out the Noize Boyz mailing list: 
> http://www.egroups.com/group/NoizeBoyz
> NoizeBoyz-subscribe@egroups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> > I think 17+ (with valad Id) is reasonable and fare at
> > parties!
> > NOTHING ELSE YOUNGER
> > anyone else agree?
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From mw-raves-return-15327-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 21:09:29 2001
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haha tony, seeing as how professor andy has been around since i was about
5 or six, i can't imagine how old you would have to be to not know who he
is...maybe you're just dumb?
:p
-val
or, maybe you just didnt watch enough bozo?
i have no sig file.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> me not knowing who the funk professor andy is = i'm old.
> 
> -t 


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From mw-raves-return-15328-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 21:11:14 2001
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In a message dated 1/24/01 1:20:48 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Lofiglam@aol.com writes:

<< YELLOW is the color of gold, butter and ripe bananas.  YELLOW is the taste 
of 
 sugar, cream and sour lemons.  YELLOW is the feel of skin, sand and old 
 paper.  YELLOW is the smell of saffron, jasmine and summer dandelions.  
 YELLOW is the SOUND of RHYTHM, BASS and brilliant MELODIES. >>



yellow is also the color of piss, bathroom crank, and the fun fur pants you 
were spotted in last week.


=)

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In a message dated 1/24/01 1:24:01 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< yellow is the color of my piss
  >>



damn.. i should *really* read all emails before replying.

!strikeapose!

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    I don't know who professor andy *or* bozo are, maybe I was too busy
watching the smurfs...

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> haha tony, seeing as how professor andy has been around since i was about
> 5 or six, i can't imagine how old you would have to be to not know who he
> is...maybe you're just dumb?
>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:
>
> > me not knowing who the funk professor andy is = i'm old.



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From mw-raves-return-15331-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 21:14:58 2001
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From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
Cc: mw-raves@hyperreal.org,nlong@Zethcon.com,chrise@pubnix.org,
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did i do it right?

mk

At 03:46 PM 1/24/2001 -0500, Griggles wrote:
>got it.  thanks.
>
>On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:
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>-->pay attention to.
>-->thanks
>-->pixie
>-->
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Subject: [mw] (OT)For sale:vintage roland synth

Sorry for the OT and corssposting, but I thought this might be of interest 
to some of the music-makers out there.
I'm selling my Roland MC 202 Micro Composer. It's a monophonic analog synth 
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Subject: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

gdamiani@umich.edu writes:

<< that's pretty good.  but in response to "she was a lesbian before she
 met me," I probably would have gone with something like - 
 
 and she was probably a lesbian afterwards. >>

lol...actually she went on a mad sex rampage after me
...just like my ex layla did!

speakin o sexy rave girlz, anyone else goin to leidra's li'l
b-day get together tonight?

for ya newbies, she's the one who inspired meeghan into
dancin...dat girls got mad vibe too...

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From mw-raves-return-15334-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 24 22:13:29 2001
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Blah blah blah I have a bunch of new songs on mp3.com blah blah blah.

http://www.mp3.com/atomly

blah blah blah thanks for blah supporting blah I have a whole bunch more
I'm going to upload blah blah blah and other stuff about which you don't
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

-->gdamiani@umich.edu writes:
-->
--><< that's pretty good.  but in response to "she was a lesbian before she
--> met me," I probably would have gone with something like - 
--> 
--> and she was probably a lesbian afterwards. >>
-->
-->lol...actually she went on a mad sex rampage after me
-->...just like my ex layla did!

stevieT - messiah, level 32 (demigod) troll, and clit-tease
extraordinaire.

personally, i'm beginning to wonder why you're still unemployed as
well.  are you 100% sure all this stuff is on your resume?


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ha, also: ha,
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ALSO from the mw-raves fa-q:

This is the *midwest raves* mailing list, and the
posts should be 
restricted to this subject. Naturally, over time list
members get familiar
with each other and there is certainly room for an
>>occasional<< off-topic
post now and then. 

*shrug* it's okay. for the most part i started
following chrise's guidelines a long time ago; so, as
usual, i'm not worried about it.

seriously noble, no need to respond. if you really
feel the need to stroke your ego on this one, please
do it privately (i.e. in the bathroom) i'm not
interested, and i'd even venture to say that not many
others are either. of course, you are certainly
welcome to make an ass of yourself and ask.

pixie

All rave related... supposedly. I can't figure out what half of it means,
much less how it's "rave" related.

Noble



MAN!

stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< DUDE! >>


dude am i not funny?


stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< > Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.
 > 
 > And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the
 > way to the
 > Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)
 
 DUDE YOU ARE SO FUNNY!
 
 DUDE!
  >>

> how about we just brick your car and toilet paper your house.
> put peanut butter all over ur cat and piss in your fish tank?
> be alot cheaper than a lawyer

Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.

And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the way to the
Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)

-- 
:: atomly :: 

my soul is for sale at   http://www.soulXchange.com/soulStats.asp?id=4694

agreed :(
when i saw this on the news i realized the only ones left are wizzo and
professor andy..and they were nowhere near as cool as bozo and cooky.
Well, at least i went to see it live once. huge moment. huge.
-val 

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Actually, if you look up the definition of rave, raved, raver, or raving,
everything is rave related.

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah gobbledygook.

furbloom..

Noble


rave (rv) 
v. raved, rav.ing, raves. 
v. intr. 

To speak wildly, irrationally, or incoherently. 
To roar; rage: The storm raved along the coast. 
To speak with wild enthusiasm: He raved about the new play. 
v. tr. 
To utter in a frenzied manner.
n. 
The act or an instance of raving. 
Informal. An extravagantly enthusiastic opinion or review: The play received
raves. 
adj. Informal 
Relating to or being an extravagantly enthusiastic opinion or review.

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[Middle English raven, from Old North French raver, variant of resver, to
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Copyright C 1996, 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
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rave \Rave\, n. [Prov. E. raves, or rathes, a frame laid on a wagon, for
carrying hay, etc.] One of the upper side pieces of the frame of a wagon
body or a sleigh. 
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rave \Rave\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. Raved; p. pr. & vb. n. Raving.] [F.
r[^e]ver to rave, to be delirious, to dream; perhaps fr. L. rabere to rave,
rage, be mad or furious. Cf. Rage, Reverie.] 1. To wander in mind or
intellect; to be delirious; to talk or act irrationally; to be wild,
furious, or raging, as a madman.

In our madness evermore we rave. --Chaucer.

Have I not cause to rave and beat my breast? --Addison.

The mingled torrent of redcoats and tartans went raving down the valley to
the gorge of Kiliecrankie. --Macaulay.

2. To rush wildly or furiously. --Spencer.

3. To talk with unreasonable enthusiasm or excessive passion or excitement;
-- followed by about, of, or on; as, he raved about her beauty.

The hallowed scene Which others rave on, though they know it not. --Byron. 
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rave \Rave\, v. t. To utter in madness or frenzy; to say wildly; as, to rave
nonsense. --Young. 
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rave n : declaiming wildly [syn: raving] v 1: talk in a noisy, excited, or
declamatory manner [syn: rant, mouth off, jabber, spout, rabbit on] 2:
praise enthusiastically; "She raved about that new restaurant" [syn: gush] 
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rave

[WPI] 1. To persist in discussing a specific subject.

2. To speak authoritatively on a subject about which one knows very little.

3. To complain to a person who is not in a position to correct the
difficulty.

4. To purposely annoy another person verbally.

5. To evangelise. See flame.

6. Also used to describe a less negative form of blather, such as friendly
bullshitting. "Rave" differs slightly from flame in that "rave" implies that
it is the persistence or obliviousness of the person speaking that is
annoying, while flame implies somewhat more strongly that the tone or
content is offensive as well.

[Jargon File]


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rave vi. [WPI] 1. To persist in discussing a specific subject. 2. To speak
authoritatively on a subject about which one knows very little. 3. To
complain to a person who is not in a position to correct the difficulty. 4.
To purposely annoy another person verbally. 5. To evangelize. See flame. 6.
Also used to describe a less negative form of blather, such as friendly
bullshitting. `Rave' differs slightly from flame in that `rave' implies that
it is the persistence or obliviousness of the person speaking that is
annoying, while flame implies somewhat more strongly that the tone or
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that niggie's a GENIUS!

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:52:26PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
> Actually, if you look up the definition of rave, raved, raver, or raving,
> everything is rave related.

And I am a drug.

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In our madness evermore we rave. --Chaucer.

Have I not cause to rave and beat my breast? --Addison.

The mingled torrent of redcoats and tartans went raving down the valley to
the gorge of Kiliecrankie. --Macaulay.

rave or die, maN!!
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as the pimping founding fathers said -

NO TAXATION WITHOUT A RAVE NATION!!

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if video games we play in our childhood,,like pacman,,reflect upon our adult 
lives in any way wed all be sitting around in the dark munching pills 
listening to very repetitive music 

Gabe
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it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you fuckers. blame him if i
make any nasty comments.

oh, and check this link. freaky...narcs can dance.
   http://www.nstend.com/2012/madfam4/generic_poster-lg.jpg

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> if video games we play in our childhood,,like pacman,,reflect 
> upon our adult 
> lives in any way wed all be sitting around in the dark munching pills 
> listening to very repetitive music 
this is beautiful.
it truly is.
this quote started off as a quote, even giving proper dues to the magazine
it came from, then it got passed around
at least 3 times to nearly every mailing list im on
then it got twisted so that it wasn't as fluid twice then it came back to
nearly every mailing list im on
and here we are again.
this damn quote needs to die.

heres the fork.



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[jsn111 <haiku23@mac.com>]
> 
> it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you fuckers. blame him if i
> make any nasty comments.
> 

watch your language bitch.

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if you goto www.groupedia.com, sign on as a member mw-raves there... in
the unsorted posts section you'll find all the posts since like a week
ago and they'll continue to be archived there.

sub categories can be created, and posts can be sorted into these
categories... for reference, or something.... haven't thought much about
using this feature.

but the cool thing is, members can create documents and submit them to be
published... seems like it would make it really easy to collaborate on
stuff like... say... a better faq.  maybe a more current and all inclusive
calendar... you name it.

and if you can think of new features to add, the guys at groupedia want to
hear about it... and i want to hear if you know of something
better or potentially more useful.

check it oot.

chad 

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:

+also, i personally would greatly appreciate it if
+you'd quit sending your mail both privately and to the
+list. when sending mail, check your recipient list. if
+it's going to the list, there is NO NEED for it to go
+into my private mailbox as well.
+
+that's the only guideline i'd care for you to really
+pay attention to.
+thanks
+pixie
+
+--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
+> from MW-Raves faq:
+> 
+> If you wish to send something to the list that you
+> think readers will 
+> enjoy/appreciate but is not related to the list
+> topic, please put "NRR" 
+> (Not Rave Related) at the beginning of the subject
+> line, so that people
+> can identify and ignore this message if they choose
+> to.
+
+
+__________________________________________________
+Do You Yahoo!?
+Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. 
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Subject: [mw] Substance P

Anyone know where to get some of his tracks? Is he still called Substance P?





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In a message dated 1/24/2001 6:35:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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> micah.topping@eds.com (Topping, Micah)
> To:    mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> 

i think it's quite funny and i could hear that said over and over again and 
not get tired of it - this quote's a classic!!!!!!!

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> Actually, if you look up the definition of rave, raved, raver, or raving,
> everything is rave related.

I LOOKED UP DIPSHIT IN THE DICTIONARY AND THERE WAS A PICTURE OF YOU!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA








AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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oh yeah, your right... well it'd be nice huh?

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the question is: did you get off on that, or do you
need to do it again?


--- Noble Long <nlong@Zethcon.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> ALSO from the mw-raves fa-q:
> 
> This is the *midwest raves* mailing list, and the
> posts should be 
> restricted to this subject. Naturally, over time
> list
> members get familiar
> with each other and there is certainly room for an
> >>occasional<< off-topic
> post now and then. 
> 
> *shrug* it's okay. for the most part i started
> following chrise's guidelines a long time ago; so,
> as
> usual, i'm not worried about it.
> 
> seriously noble, no need to respond. if you really
> feel the need to stroke your ego on this one, please
> do it privately (i.e. in the bathroom) i'm not
> interested, and i'd even venture to say that not
> many
> others are either. of course, you are certainly
> welcome to make an ass of yourself and ask.
> 
> pixie
> 
> All rave related... supposedly. I can't figure out
> what half of it means,
> much less how it's "rave" related.
> 
> Noble
> 
> 
> 
> MAN!
> 
> stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:
> 
> << DUDE! >>
> 
> 
> dude am i not funny?
> 
> 
> stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:
> 
> << > Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.
>  > 
>  > And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all
> the
>  > way to the
>  > Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)
>  
>  DUDE YOU ARE SO FUNNY!
>  
>  DUDE!
>   >>
> 
> > how about we just brick your car and toilet paper
> your house.
> > put peanut butter all over ur cat and piss in your
> fish tank?
> > be alot cheaper than a lawyer
> 
> Frank has not a car, cat nor fish.
> 
> And it'd probably be pretty expensive to fly all the
> way to the
> Netherlands to do any of this anyway.  :)
> 
> -- 
> :: atomly :: 
> 
> my soul is for sale at  
> http://www.soulXchange.com/soulStats.asp?id=4694
> 
> agreed :(
> when i saw this on the news i realized the only ones
> left are wizzo and
> professor andy..and they were nowhere near as cool
> as bozo and cooky.
> Well, at least i went to see it live once. huge
> moment. huge.
> -val 
> 
> sorry.  thought some of you might find this
> important.
> 
> >
> >On NPR's Morning Edition last week, Nina Tottenberg
> said that if the 
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--- jsn111 <haiku23@mac.com> wrote:
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> it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you
> fuckers. blame him if i
> make any nasty comments.

blame? oh wait, you're talking about the people who
*won't* like them. nevermind ;]

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> i think it's quite funny and i could hear that said over and 
> over again and 
> not get tired of it - this quote's a classic!!!!!!!
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> > it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you
> > fuckers. blame him if i
> > make any nasty comments.
> 
> blame? oh wait, you're talking about the people who
> *won't* like them. nevermind ;]
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YAY!  i like it when its my fault!

actually, is anyone in the madison area up and around tonight?  i'm bored
and have had a horrible day, i'd love to go somewhere to get a drunk on.

-t

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it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you fuckers. blame him if i
make any nasty comments.

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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:42:10PM -0600, I Dropper wrote:
> Anyone know where to get some of his tracks? Is he still called Substance P?

http://www.tcinternet.net/users/hotf/stock.html

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From mw-raves-return-15358-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 00:20:38 2001
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> YAY!  i like it when its my fault!
> 
> actually, is anyone in the madison area up and around 
> tonight?  i'm bored
> and have had a horrible day, i'd love to go somewhere to get 
> a drunk on.
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From mw-raves-return-15359-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 00:33:11 2001
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thanks for the warm words, i'll let you catch up next time i see you.

-t

-----Original Message-----
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> YAY!  i like it when its my fault!
> 
> actually, is anyone in the madison area up and around 
> tonight?  i'm bored
> and have had a horrible day, i'd love to go somewhere to get 
> a drunk on.

/ME raises hand

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From mw-raves-return-15360-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 00:39:16 2001
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well i am happy now
still no drinking
BUT
good news came through today...my "night" working schedule is put on hold
temporarily!

woot.

which means i may be venturing out this weekend.
at LEAST to see dj spooky in columbus, beyond that who knows...

so..
yay.

micah

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From mw-raves-return-15361-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 00:42:35 2001
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> thanks for the warm words, i'll let you catch up next time i see you.
well tony d. tiger dont get so far ahead that i get some kind of liver
cancer
next time i see ya
but keep a tally for me

1 beer 
2 beer
3 beer
4 beer
uhh...

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From mw-raves-return-15362-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 00:58:56 2001
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no can do. temptation island is on tonight (gotta keep my body
vegitated).

also, anyone that doesn't go out on saturday should tune in to
the sushi battle on iron chef that night.


----- Original Message -----
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> YAY!  i like it when its my fault!
>
> actually, is anyone in the madison area up and around tonight?
i'm bored
> and have had a horrible day, i'd love to go somewhere to get a
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>
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [mw] bitches...
>
>
>
> it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you fuckers.
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From mw-raves-return-15363-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 01:17:24 2001
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I will be in dayton this weekend micah..

maybe I will come stalk you.



In a message dated 1/24/01 7:46:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
micah.topping@eds.com writes:

<< well i am happy now
 still no drinking
 BUT
 good news came through today...my "night" working schedule is put on hold
 temporarily!
 
 woot.
 
 which means i may be venturing out this weekend.
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 so..
 yay.
 
 micah
 
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From mw-raves-return-15364-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 01:22:17 2001
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> I will be in dayton this weekend micah..
> 
> maybe I will come stalk you.
the line forms to the left	


why you be in dayton?

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From mw-raves-return-15365-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 01:36:35 2001
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In a message dated 1/24/01 8:23:52 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< why you be in dayton? >>



to see a nic3 b0y.



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From mw-raves-return-15366-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 01:42:25 2001
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> << why you be in dayton? >>
> 
> 
> 
> to see a nic3 b0y.
b0ys are trouble.

are you saying im not nice?
cos...well...okay

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From mw-raves-return-15367-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 01:45:18 2001
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 08:32:10PM -0500, TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
> to see a nic3 b0y.

Are you going to let him hit it from the back?

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From mw-raves-return-15368-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 01:51:52 2001
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In a message dated 1/24/01 8:46:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< b0ys are trouble.
 
 are you saying im not nice?
 cos...well...okay >>


*most* b0ys are trouble.


and I smell trouble when you are near..


PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YEW.


ok im ending this geigh thread... before someone bitches at us that we should 
take it private.

=P

LOVE YA MICAH l33t hukk3r

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From mw-raves-return-15369-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 02:13:13 2001
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In a message dated 1/24/01 8:52:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< Are you going to let him hit it from the back? >>



hahahahhahahhahahah.


I WILL NOT EAT GREEN EGGS AND HAM.


atomly......
didnt you and arno hit it from the back this past weekend?

it happend so fast I cant remember.

=P

lor





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gdamiani@umich.edu writes:

<< stevieT - messiah, level 32 (demigod) troll, and clit-tease
 extraordinaire.
 
 personally, i'm beginning to wonder why you're still unemployed as
 well.  are you 100% sure all this stuff is on your resume? >>

huh?!...i been workin for some time now!

who supplies you with such bunk info?!...your crack dealer?!
...did you also believe it when tony sold you those capsules
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>  ya newbies, she's the one who inspired meeghan into
> dancin...dat girls got mad vibe too...
>
theres a lie. She didnt' inspire meaghan to start dancing, she hated meaghan
when meaghan started dancing. Come on stevie, argue with me on that one.

meaghans roommate
shawne
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> gdamiani@umich.edu writes:
>
> << that's pretty good.  but in response to "she was a lesbian before she
>  met me," I probably would have gone with something like -
>
>  and she was probably a lesbian afterwards. >>
>
> lol...actually she went on a mad sex rampage after me
> ...just like my ex layla did!
>
> speakin o sexy rave girlz, anyone else goin to leidra's li'l
> b-day get together tonight?
>
>  ya newbies, she's the one who inspired meeghan into
> dancin...dat girls got mad vibe too...
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<< Are you going to let him hit it from the back?
  >>

lol...didn't michael say he lets bush hit him in the back?!

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<< She didnt' inspire meaghan to start dancing, she hated meaghan
 when meaghan started dancing. Come on stevie, argue with me on that one. >>

sorry shawn, not everybody is born a hater like you.

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: 
: watch your language bitch.
: 

do we really need all this cursing ???

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there's plenty going on, but in my opinion the guest talent is too often repeat appearances or
just generally less to my own tastes.. columbus & cleveland seem more advanced to me. 



                              -tjw, who has no idea as to the identity of "Arcangel234235" 



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: also, anyone that doesn't go out on saturday should tune in to
: the sushi battle on iron chef that night.
: 

YES !!! now i have good plans for saturday night !! woo hoo !!! 

iron chef raw !!!!

-THE bitch iySyS-

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: to see a nic3 b0y.
: 

/me runs in a circle chanting 
"lorie's got a boyfriend...lorie's got a boyfriend !!!"

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From mw-raves-return-15378-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 02:53:31 2001
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> and I smell trouble when you are near..

i think that's just his breath.

ps: take it private, you inconsiderate fucks.



> 
> 
> PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YEW.
> 
> 
> ok im ending this geigh thread... before someone bitches at us that we should 
> take it private.
> 
> =P
> 
> LOVE YA MICAH l33t hukk3r
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: >  ya newbies, she's the one who inspired meeghan into
: > dancin...dat girls got mad vibe too...
: >
: theres a lie. She didnt' inspire meaghan to start dancing, she hated
meaghan
: when meaghan started dancing. Come on stevie, argue with me on that one.
:
: meaghans roommate
: shawne

ummm shawnes right on this one...meaghan fuckin hated her...and i guarentee
you wanted to be like her in no way

meaghans best friend since she was 14
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> : watch your language bitch.
> : 
> 
> do we really need all this cursing ???
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

-->gdamiani@umich.edu writes:
-->
--><< stevieT - messiah, level 32 (demigod) troll, and clit-tease
--> extraordinaire.
--> 
--> personally, i'm beginning to wonder why you're still unemployed as
--> well.  are you 100% sure all this stuff is on your resume? >>
-->
-->huh?!...i been workin for some time now!
-->
-->who supplies you with such bunk info?!...your crack dealer?!
-->...did you also believe it when tony sold you those capsules
-->full of his piss that they were pure liquid gold ecstacy?!

haha.  you're funny, steve.


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Me too! 
Oh wait, can you come up with something better? micah?

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Subject: Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

In a message dated 1/24/01 10:03:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Son316east@aol.com writes:

<< sorry shawn, not everybody is born a hater like you.
 
 but keep tryin. >>



I disagree...

I think shawne has one greatbighuge heart..  and there are several factors 
that go into that one..

he's just cynical as fuck.. and I *doubt* he takes mw-raves personally and 
seriously.. for the most part.

nothing wrong with being cynical.

it actually kinna rocks.


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> Me too! 
> Oh wait, can you come up with something better? micah?
how about...if video games we played as a kid truly affected us as adults
we would all be plumbers with mustaches wearing overalls breaking bricks
with our skulls?
guess that wouldn't make it rave related

and i never said the quote wasn't ironic or funny, just that it was
misquoted and quoted a lot

i know for me zelda and mario bros are much more life impacting than pacman


now pong....
maybe pong is the reason we have all the incessant back-and-forth on this
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Subject: Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

Actually stevie, I wasn't hating. I just love to correct you when you try to
name drop.

the cynic
shawne
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> In a message dated 1/24/01 10:03:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> Son316east@aol.com writes:
>
> << sorry shawn, not everybody is born a hater like you.
>
>  but keep tryin. >>
>
>
>
> I disagree...
>
> I think shawne has one greatbighuge heart..  and there are several factors
> that go into that one..
>
> he's just cynical as fuck.. and I *doubt* he takes mw-raves personally and
> seriously.. for the most part.
>
> nothing wrong with being cynical.
>
> it actually kinna rocks.
>
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Subject: [mw] DEEP THURSDAY'S  at MAD BAR

This week, Deep resident's Ron Carroll and Mazi have taken a field trip to 
Paris . . . Deep will be going off at the world famous Respect this Thursday 
night . . .


On the decks, Jan. 25th . . . bringing the deep sexy vibes in their absence, 
are special guest DJ's Nathan Larsen, Rick Garcia, and CZR . . . Last week 
was packed and we are expecting an even bigger turnout this week . . . Hope 
to see you all there!!!

DEEP at Mad Bar  . . . A night strictly for the underset!

Upcoming Guests . . .
Feb. 15th - Tony Senghore/Sweden - Panhandle, UTC, La Cienda Honduras
Feb. 22nd - Murray Richardson/UK - 20/20 Vision, Kickin, Low Pressings

1640 N. Damen
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Subject: Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

Speaking of the title, I wish I had a sexy rave-girly..........

Just a pretty random thought :)

TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/24/01 10:03:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> Son316east@aol.com writes:
>
> << sorry shawn, not everybody is born a hater like you.
>
>  but keep tryin. >>
>
> I disagree...
>
> I think shawne has one greatbighuge heart..  and there are several factors
> that go into that one..
>
> he's just cynical as fuck.. and I *doubt* he takes mw-raves personally and
> seriously.. for the most part.
>
> nothing wrong with being cynical.
>
> it actually kinna rocks.
>
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> > and I smell trouble when you are near..
> 
> i think that's just his breath.
> 
> ps: take it private, you inconsiderate fucks.
look miss non-woo...you...you...suck.

so there

PUBLICALLY NO LESS!

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  DAYTON, OH


>
>           .===============================================.
>            A M E R I C A N   C H E E S E   P R E S E N T S
>           .===============================================.
>                ||      K R A F T Y   B E A T S      ||
>                ||      -----------------------      ||
>                ||          JANUARY 27, 2001         ||
>                ||             DAYTON, OH            ||
>                ||           $10 @ THE DOOR          ||
>                ||        DOORS OPEN AND MUSIC       ||
>                ||           STARTS @ 10PM           ||
>                ||___________________________________||
>  _______________\===================================/_______________
>//                                                                 \\
>||                                                                 ||
>||  In January of 2000, a fledgling rave promotion company known   ||
>||     only as American Cheese Productions brought Columbus a      ||
>||    new kind of event - an event focused on the happy sounds     ||
>||   of hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up jungle.  Unfortunately,    ||
>||      circumstances prevented the planned follow-up events       ||
>||   from ever happening, and central Ohio was left with a void    ||
>||                  where hardcore was concerned.                  ||
>||                                                                 ||
>||     One long year later, American Cheese has been reborn -      ||
>||     not as a rave production company, but as a network of       ||
>||     happy hardcore DJ's and producers throughout the mid-       ||
>||    west and east coast.  To celebrate the launch of our new     ||
>||         website 
>(<http://www.americancheese.org>www.americancheese.org), we present 
>a          ||
>||        showcase of our core members, along with our very        ||
>||    special guest DJ VIRUS, all the way from Toronto, Canada.    ||
>||                                                                 ||
>||    Capacity is extremely limited for this intimate evening of   ||
>||     hard and happy sounds.  If you aren't coming out for the    ||
>||  music, please go somewhere else.  ROAR will be in full effect- ||
>||         shady thugs and drugs are unwanted & unwelcome.         ||
>||                       SMILING FACES ONLY!!                      ||
>||                                                                 ||
><file://\\================================================================= 
>//>\\=================================================================//
>  ||                          L I N E U P                          ||
>  ||===============================================================||
>  ||     DJ VIRUS - (purerave.com - Toronto) - HAPPY HARDCORE      ||
>  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
>  ||                 MICHAEL KNIGHT - HAPPY HARDCORE               ||
>  ||              (American Cheese - Chicago/Columbus)             ||
>  ||                               vs                              ||
>  ||                   AC SLATER - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
>  ||  (American Cheese/WickedStreak - West Virginia/Philadelphia)  ||
>  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
>  ||                      DJ EOR - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
>  ||                  (American Cheese - South Bend)               ||
>  ||                               vs                              ||
>  ||                    JOHNNY P - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
>  ||           (American Cheese/Evil Twin - Indianapolis)          ||
>  ||                               vs                              ||
>  ||                    DJ HOCUS - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
>  ||                  (American Cheese - Columbus)                 ||
>  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
>  ||    D.J. TANNER - (American Cheese - Cincinnati) - HARDCORE    ||
>  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
>  ||DJ KITCHEN SYNC - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE||
>  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
>  ||    DJ NIMBY - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE   ||
> 
><file://\\===============================================================// 
 >>\\===============================================================//
>   ||                           I N F O                           ||
>   ||=============================================================||
>   ||    January 27, 2001 @ Antioch College [near Dayton, OH]     ||
>   ||             I N F O L I N E : (614) 470-2064                ||
>   ||       W E B S I T E: 
> <http://www.americancheese.org>http://www.americancheese.org          ||
>   ||                                                             ||
>   ||         D I R E C T I O N S:  From Interstate 70:           ||
>   ||     Take exit 52 A off Interstate 70 and head south         ||
>   ||    on RT 68 towards Xenia and Yellow Springs. About 6       ||
>   ||    miles down the road you'll enter Yellow Springs. RT      ||
>   ||   68 will then become Xenia Ave, the main street through    ||
>   ||   Yellow Springs. Go through downtown Yellow Springs and    ||
>   ||          at the second traffic light, turn left on          ||
>   ||        East Livermore st. Turn right on President st.       ||
>   ||                                                             ||
>   ||   $10 at the door - NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, MARKERS, SPRAYCANS   ||
>   ||     NO SHADY INDIVIDUALS! YOU COME TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL     ||
>   ||   HARDCORE SCENE, NOT TO GET FUCKED UP! RESPECT THE VENUE   ||
>   ||  AND RESPECT THE TALENT...CENTRAL OHIO DOES NOT GET ENOUGH  ||
>   ||      EVENTS LIKE THIS! PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT US! :)      ||
>   ||                                                             ||
>   ||                Lights and Sound provided by:                ||
>   ||           Sensorium, Columbus, OHIO (614) 451.5601          ||
>   ||                                                             ||
>   ||    Respect to all who are keeping hardcore alive in Ohio    ||
>   ||        Come out and support us! We'll see you there!        ||
>   ||_____________________________________________________________||
> 
><file://\\=============================================================//>\ 
>\=============================================================//


________________________________________________________________________
michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org
michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org
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> << Are you going to let him hit it from the back?
>   >>
> 
> lol...didn't michael say he lets bush hit him in the back?!

hit him in the back does not compute please try again

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Refuse & Resist Tour dates are still available for March & April.
Contact Mike for more info 309.781.6693 - analogbass@home.com


:::Info:::



PLANET RHYTHM UK & FSAM present
REFUSE & RESIST TOUR
HEADROOM & SLOBODAN NORTH AMERICAN TOUR

HEADROOM
6 turntable performance- Sweden
Planet Rhythm, Compound, Shokoy, Evil Deceptions, Native Diffusion, =
Clone, Kazumi
Direct from Sweden performing on 6 turntables, Headroom has rocked the =
masses
around the world with their hard pounding techno.  Only making 2 stops =
into the=20
United States in 2000,  Headroom showed Indianapolis and Austin, Texas =
how Sweden rocks!

SLOBODAN
3 turntable performance - Sweden
Planet Rhythm, Evil Deceptions, Subsounds, Shokoy, Armalyte, Spore
Another Swedish import, Slobodan along with his partners in crime =
Headroom
have numerious amount of production under their belt on todays top =
techno labels.
A world class dj & producer you will find a Slobodan record in any =
techno dj's crate.
He only made two apperances to the US in 2000, Chicago & Iowa.
He is acking to punish the states again,  only for the headstrong!

SUBMERGE 101
3 turntable performance - Chicago
New Breed Recordings, 101 Crew, FSAM, Refuse & Resist
When people think about techno in Chicago only a handful of dj's are =
mentioned, Submerge is one of them.
Concidered Chicago's #1 techno dj, he has played in Europe, Asia and =
countless apperances around the US.
Future Realm magazine quoted "Submerge 101 is concidered to be one of =
the most skilled technoheads out there".

For more info & full roster FS Artist Management


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Resource
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amount of=20
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labels.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dcenter><STRONG><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>A world class =
dj &amp;=20
producer you will find a Slobodan record in any techno dj's=20
crate.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dcenter><STRONG><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>He only made =
two apperances=20
to the US in 2000, Chicago &amp; Iowa.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV align=3Dcenter><STRONG><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>He is acking =
to punish the=20
states again,&nbsp; only for the headstrong!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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101</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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performance -=20
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Recordings,=20
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the=20
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magazine quoted=20
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out=20
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<DIV align=3Dcenter><STRONG><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>For more info =
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roster<A href=3D"http://users.skynet.be/bk234444/djgruve/"> FS Artist=20
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i seem to be the only person in the world that can't fwd something and have 
it stay properly formatted.  ;P  oh well.  the properly formatted e-flyer 
and scans of the regular flyer are on our site.  www.americancheese.org

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Subject: [mw] a very informative guide to electronic music

this site is an invaluable resource, please bookmark it immediately.

http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/guide.html

mk

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rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...........

michael knight wrote:

> this site is an invaluable resource, please bookmark it immediately.
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> http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/guide.html
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> mk
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Subject: Re: [mw] children twiching in a corner

i played in phoenix on halloween, and there were a few younguns, but it was how fucked up EVERYONE at the party was that shocked me.  i was like SHIT!!  its like whoa.  aaron.

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Subject: [mw] VALENTINEs JAM 2-10

http://www.superstarsoflove.com

Superstars of Love's 7 year Valentine Anniversary

LOVETRONIC  
02.10.01  St. Louis
featuring:

Detroit Grand Pu Bahs - Jive Electro Detroit

Ming & FS on four turntables - New York City

DJ Assault - Mo' Wax - Detroit's Ghettotech Master

Tomamerica AKA Tommie Sunshine - Chicago's Bad Boy

All Time High - Live from Uranus

Hypo Vs Astrix - Live Techno PA
Bodaleg - Boogie Knights Bitch
Justin Foster - this kid rocks
Pepe - weird stuff

Lovetronic is all about our love and dedication to
electronic dance music culture over the past 7 years.
As with all of our events, expect an unparalled
production with multiple full colored real Lasers,
expertly programmed intelligent lighting, heart
thumping sound system, inspiring visuals & decoration.

Star-crossed lovers slow dance all night long in the
Unearthly ambient lounge hosted by Cupid played by
performance artist TJ Richter the human comic book.

Come fall in love-  this party will get you laid!
call # 314-994-1114 for FREE PHONE SEX



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and it really sucks when ur g/f cheats on you with her x g/f...man that sucked


---funny you should mention, cause the exact same thing happened to me!!  aaron.

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From mw-raves-return-15398-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 09:40:50 2001
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Subject: [mw] i want you to listen...and i want you to listen good...

first things first...

there will be no third world war, because i will not allow it

bush will not be assasinated because i will not allow it

leidra does not hate meaghan...meaghan does not hate leidra

i do not hate michael or mariah...and they do not hate me

everything in the past is in the past

there was to be a second coming, but things got changed...
sorry i changed it...you will have to settle for me

there are no snakes...there are no rats...there are no
illuminati...there will be hostile take-over...there are no 
spies...there are no terrorists...the pentagon is not the
physical incarnation of the pentagram...prince charles
will not be the anti-christ...we're are ALL in the same boat
...rich poor, white, black, yellow, purple whateva

nothing...nothing...nothing is more important than love
not just for you, but for your fellow man...but also for 
yourselves...or what you can be

if there is a god or a demon that deminishes your belief
on what you can be...than he will cease to be

there is no old school...there is no new school...there is no
scene there is no system...there is no set way on doing things
...there is no wrong way of doing things...nobody hates you...
nobody has cursed you...you are one of many...many in the
same boat...if you are in need, there is no reason why your
fellow man or woman can not help you...if you are in doubt
...it is nothing that has happened before...if you feel there is
something wrong with you...it is not like something no man or
woman has ever felt before

you can say how you feel...you can do what you like to do...
you can go where you like to go...this mailing list is sooooo
insignificant...it is not even funny...

fear is stupid

hate is stupid

regret is stupid

envy is stupid

greed is stupid

deception is stupid

ignore the petty

and ask yourself what you REALLY want

then THINK LOGICALLY what is the best way on achieving that goal

purification of the motive and the rest is easy

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Subject: Re: [mw] i want you to listen...and i want you to listen good...

*cough*bullshit*cough*

-THE bitch iySyS-

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: first things first...
: 
: there will be no third world war, because i will not allow it
: 
: bush will not be assasinated because i will not allow it
: 
: leidra does not hate meaghan...meaghan does not hate leidra
: 
: i do not hate michael or mariah...and they do not hate me
: 
: everything in the past is in the past
: 
: there was to be a second coming, but things got changed...
: sorry i changed it...you will have to settle for me
: 
: there are no snakes...there are no rats...there are no
: illuminati...there will be hostile take-over...there are no
: spies...there are no terrorists...the pentagon is not the
: physical incarnation of the pentagram...prince charles
: will not be the anti-christ...we're are ALL in the same boat
: ...rich poor, white, black, yellow, purple whateva
: 
: nothing...nothing...nothing is more important than love
: not just for you, but for your fellow man...but also for
: yourselves...or what you can be
: 
: if there is a god or a demon that deminishes your belief
: on what you can be...than he will cease to be
: 
: there is no old school...there is no new school...there is no
: scene there is no system...there is no set way on doing things
: ...there is no wrong way of doing things...nobody hates you...
: nobody has cursed you...you are one of many...many in the
: same boat...if you are in need, there is no reason why your
: fellow man or woman can not help you...if you are in doubt
: ...it is nothing that has happened before...if you feel there is
: something wrong with you...it is not like something no man or
: woman has ever felt before
: 
: you can say how you feel...you can do what you like to do...
: you can go where you like to go...this mailing list is sooooo
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: fear is stupid
: 
: hate is stupid
: 
: regret is stupid
: 
: envy is stupid
: 
: greed is stupid
: 
: deception is stupid
: 
: ignore the petty
: 
: and ask yourself what you REALLY want
: 
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: 
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From mw-raves-return-15400-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 11:31:23 2001
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	, etc.

i did not sell any pee-ills to greg, i think he has his own hookup.  humph,
someone is moving in on my territory.

i will smack the ho,
-t

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gdamiani@umich.edu writes:

<< stevieT - messiah, level 32 (demigod) troll, and clit-tease
 extraordinaire.
 
 personally, i'm beginning to wonder why you're still unemployed as
 well.  are you 100% sure all this stuff is on your resume? >>

huh?!...i been workin for some time now!

who supplies you with such bunk info?!...your crack dealer?!
...did you also believe it when tony sold you those capsules
full of his piss that they were pure liquid gold ecstacy?!


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Subject: Re: [mw] i want you to listen...and i want you to listen good...

supposedly every president elected in an '00 year has been asasinated or had 
an attempt.



Son316east@aol.com writes:

<< bush will not be assasinated because i will not allow it >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
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From mw-raves-return-15402-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 13:16:42 2001
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yeah, and all those other years stevie allowed it!

DUH!

-t

this has been your first dose of thursday sarcasm.

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supposedly every president elected in an '00 year has been asasinated or had

an attempt.



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<< bush will not be assasinated because i will not allow it >>



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From mw-raves-return-15403-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 13:25:55 2001
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--- jsn111 <haiku23@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> no can do. temptation island is on tonight (gotta
> keep my body
> vegitated).

aside from the totally tasteless aspect of this show,
i refuse to watch anything that bumps the simpsons,
even if it's just for one night out of the week...

> also, anyone that doesn't go out on saturday should
> tune in to
> the sushi battle on iron chef that night.

that's reason enough to *not* go out.
pixie



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From mw-raves-return-15404-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 15:00:24 2001
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> > no can do. temptation island is on tonight (gotta
> > keep my body
> > vegitated).
>
> aside from the totally tasteless aspect of this show,
> i refuse to watch anything that bumps the simpsons,
> even if it's just for one night out of the week...
--
it _is_ tasteless...and that's why it's entertaining. i delight
in observing just how fucked up those people are in their
relationships, how the two halves of a couple don't really trust
or respect each other, how they're always willing to take pot
shots at their partners by crossing certain lines which should
(obviously) not be crossed. by comparison it makes me seem just a
little more sane in my ways. a truely twisted and evil television
show. i think i'm hooked.

> > also, anyone that doesn't go out on saturday should
> > tune in to
> > the sushi battle on iron chef that night.
>
> that's reason enough to *not* go out.
> pixie
--
EXACTLY.


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From mw-raves-return-15405-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 15:17:23 2001
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waaaaaaaaay out of our region, but i was wondering if
anyone might have any help trying to find information
on this festival. i know they hold it in several
different countries...i'm looking for a website or
information on the one in England, i believe.

thanks a ton,
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From mw-raves-return-15406-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 16:09:00 2001
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Subject: [mw] nrr: something special

you were expecting something maybe rave-related?

i'm trying to be interesting and not just say 

test,
-t

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From mw-raves-return-15407-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 16:36:14 2001
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:

> waaaaaaaaay out of our region, but i was wondering if
> anyone might have any help trying to find information
> on this festival. i know they hold it in several
> different countries...i'm looking for a website or
> information on the one in England, i believe.

here's a little something:

http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13704,00.html


the Orb will be there. ~drool.


wishing I could afford this trip,
-daryl


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From mw-raves-return-15408-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 17:06:46 2001
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At 02:10 PM 2001-01-24, Eliot Stanton wrote:

>yeah 17 is the limit for curfew in alot of states....

curfew is a local (city and/or county) ordinance, not a state law in most 
places.

note: if you're 16, leave your id at home and lie to the cops... it always 
worked for me.

-j


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From mw-raves-return-15409-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 17:11:11 2001
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  good...


>i do not hate michael or mariah...and they do not hate me

wrong.  i hate you and would take great pleasure in causing you physical harm.

>fear is stupid

you are stupid.

>hate is stupid

you are stupid.

>regret is stupid

you are stupid.

>envy is stupid

you are stupid.

>greed is stupid

you are stupid.

>deception is stupid

you are stupid.

mk
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From mw-raves-return-15410-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 17:11:17 2001
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Subject: [mw] FW: [madfam] go to stareyes, or else...

i'm forwarding this to mw for 2 reasons.

first, its a rave-related activity that Joe thinkin' about.  kinda
madison-centric, but so am i.

second, today's been a pretty slow day on mw, i think it might be a whole
new group of people that haven't been a target before.

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Dynamic Groove 
Subject: Re: [madfam] go to stareyes, or else...

>todays main topics:
>Rave Day at the Mountains!  Okay, so I'm not as ill tempered about this
past 
>weekend, and by the time the day comes I'll have my own board, but
>Sun Feb 4th, go to Cascade!!!  Let's all go, or at least a few of us.  All 
>ravers get in for full price and have access to the hill for the duration
of 
>normal business hours.

Actually I suggest that people go to Tyrol Basin on Tuesday nights,
or to Devil's Head on Thursday nights.  Both offer $10 lift ticket
specials for the specified day.

www.tyrolbasin.com 
www.devilsheadresort.com

If you want, we can be more organized, and pick a
specific date or dates.  For what it would cost to go
to Cascade on a weekend, you could go to Tyrol
or Devil's Head on Tue. or Thur. 3 different times !!!

I'm not bashing Cascade - I love it, but the others
have better specials.  However, Cascade does
offer 2 for 1 lift tickets during the day on Tuesdays
and $18 nightime tickets on weekdays (Mon-Thur).


>Afterwards, there will be a huge mega event in the bathtub, sauna, hottub
of 
>your choice, ANYWHERE ...you choose.  Just show them yer ski lift ticket, 
>and tell them you're with the Board Ravers Association (or BRA for short).


Hahaha !  Yeah right ;).  However, if we can actually get
a large group of -organized- snowboarder/skiiers we CAN 
get group rates just about anywhere, and we could plan
an end of season trip up north to the U.P. or any semi-local
resort (Devil's Head, Chestnut, Sundown, Granite Peak).
The problem is how many people would actually be serious ?

So who's up for Tyrol Basin this Tuesday ?

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>it _is_ tasteless...and that's why it's entertaining

there are four good reasons why i won't watch this show:

1) the
2) WB
3) new
4) wednesday

capeside thugz make some noise,
mk
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At 06:25 PM 2001-01-24, Topping, Micah wrote:
> > if video games we play in our childhood,,like pacman,,reflect
> > upon our adult
> > lives in any way wed all be sitting around in the dark munching pills
> > listening to very repetitive music
>this is beautiful.
>it truly is.
>this quote started off as a quote, even giving proper dues to the magazine
>it came from, then it got passed around
>at least 3 times to nearly every mailing list im on
>then it got twisted so that it wasn't as fluid twice then it came back to
>nearly every mailing list im on
>and here we are again.
>this damn quote needs to die.


i was playing counterstrike earlier, a mod for the FPS half-life, probably 
the #1 video game in the world right now.... i joined a server, and there 
it was in the motd (which is displayed for a few seconds when you first 
connect).

Then i check mw mail.

This, all in one day, two weeks after I thought it died.

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:10:40 -0600, Tony Sebion wrote:

>i'm forwarding this to mw for 2 reasons.
>
>first, its a rave-related activity that Joe thinkin' about.  kinda
>madison-centric, but so am i.



To give credit to where credit is due, the following portion
of the post was originally written by Adrian, not me. So he
originated the raver snowboarding trip =)




On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:20:06 -0000, Adrian ......ate21...MOM.......pyftw&m wrote:

>Subject: Re: [madfam] go to stareyes, or else...
>
>>todays main topics:
>>Rave Day at the Mountains!  Okay, so I'm not as ill tempered about this past 
>>weekend, and by the time the day comes I'll have my own board, but
>>Sun Feb 4th, go to Cascade!!!  Let's all go, or at least a few of us.  All 
>>ravers get in for full price and have access to the hill for the duration
>of normal business hours.

>>Afterwards, there will be a huge mega event in the bathtub, sauna, hottub of 
>>your choice, ANYWHERE ...you choose.  Just show them yer ski lift ticket, 
>>and tell them you're with the Board Ravers Association (or BRA for short).


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Subject: Re: [mw] a very informative guide to electronic music

Wow. Where have i been without this info. I'll never listen to techno again
now that I know that Music Sounds Better is TRUE techno. Crap, where am I
going to get a bunch of Goa CD's so I can be a real DJ?????? Do they sell
those at the mall?
j - symmetric
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> http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/guide.html
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Subject: [mw] Century

The preliminary website is launched!!!
We will be updating and contracting
as we find the time...
 
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Nate FX invites you to...
 
The NEXT CENTURY
 
Our 1 year anniversary event....
 
January 26th, 2001
 
Lexington, KY
 
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Venue:
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- DEEP HOUSE SOULDIERS
This is the first all LIVE performance
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- TIGGER
Back from last year, Tigger is definitely
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will have a special SURPRISE during
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- Trevor Lamont and Sammie
These two highly respected DJs will be
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- Nitro and DJ Booth
Solo sets as well as the Disco Deathmatch
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- Nujack with MC ADB
If you remember MC ADB's lyrical control
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- Matt Bandy and Trevor Lamont
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I didnt know cd players came with  so many rpm setttings...

If I play my Astral projection at 110 rpms... does it suddenly become
boring techno?
If I play my Jungel records at 120 rmp does it become gay music?

This is pretty fucking funny,  its very cute who put it together?  
If you want the hottest in today's goa/psy trance please go to the mall and
check the following artists:  Dream (real cutting edge stuff), Brittney
Spears, Christina Aguelera and Mandy moore they rock.   Every time I see
them I cant help but bust my liquid out.


Have a day and a half,


tad


At 12:54 PM 1/25/01 -0500, Symmetric wrote:
>Wow. Where have i been without this info. I'll never listen to techno again
>now that I know that Music Sounds Better is TRUE techno. Crap, where am I
>going to get a bunch of Goa CD's so I can be a real DJ?????? Do they sell
>those at the mall?
>j - symmetric
>check out the Noize Boyz mailing list:
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>NoizeBoyz-subscribe@egroups.com
>
>> this site is an invaluable resource, please bookmark it immediately.
>>
>> http://home4.swipnet.se/~w-46401/DARK/guide.html
>>
>> mk
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Subject: [mw] NRR: Anyone wanna go with me??

All,


  Ok, after some of the best and worst events that could possibly take place 
in 2000, I am hoping for somewhat of a turn around in 2001. I want to take a 
trip somewhere.. maybe ibiza or peru, or hell.. Pretty much I am open 
suggestions.. Male or female.. it doesnt matter...

I am looking for some travel companions.. Anyone down for a trip before 
summer.. towards the end of spring??

Lemme know..

Dan sharp (0_o)
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Subject: RE: [mw] i want you to listen...and i want you to listen good...

> first things first...
usually

> there will be no third world war, because i will not allow it
danke

> bush will not be assasinated because i will not allow it
no-danke

> leidra does not hate meaghan...meaghan does not hate leidra
and i do not care

> i do not hate michael or mariah...and they do not hate me
have you checked your sources?

> everything in the past is in the past
true

> there was to be a second coming, but things got changed...
> sorry i changed it...you will have to settle for me
all anyone ever does with you is settle i hear.

> there are no snakes...there are no rats...there are no
> illuminati...there will be hostile take-over...there are no 
> spies...there are no terrorists...the pentagon is not the
> physical incarnation of the pentagram...prince charles
> will not be the anti-christ...we're are ALL in the same boat
> ...rich poor, white, black, yellow, purple whateva
i don't believe you
there are snakes
there are rats, dead ones even...dead cats too! 
hostile take-over of...?
there ARE spies!  something has to explain that perfectly round hole in my
shower at crotch level(that is a joke..but i'll be sure to check)
the pentagon is a shape with 5 sides, a pentagram is a shape with 5 external
points...neither is a physical incarnation of anything,
they are mathematical constructs silly
prince charles has a big nose
don't rock my boat....i dont want my boat to be rockin'

> nothing...nothing...nothing is more important than love
> not just for you, but for your fellow man...but also for 
> yourselves...or what you can be
stevie is rolling soooo hard.

> if there is a god or a demon that deminishes your belief
> on what you can be...than he will cease to be
this makes no sense.
well my sentence did, so i should say
that makes no sense, referring to your statement...which one?
pick.

> there is no old school...there is no new school...there is no
> scene there is no system...there is no set way on doing things
> ...there is no wrong way of doing things...nobody hates you...
> nobody has cursed you...you are one of many...many in the
> same boat...if you are in need, there is no reason why your
> fellow man or woman can not help you...if you are in doubt
> ...it is nothing that has happened before...if you feel there is
> something wrong with you...it is not like something no man or
> woman has ever felt before
i am old school, or there wouldn't be a list of reasons why floating round
the internet
i am new school cos i haven't been raving since the 70s
there is no scene...thank you!
there is no system...too vague, no available response
there are set ways of doing things all over the place! they aren't the ONLY
way but they are set and accepted
or else my personal method of sitting on my ass at work would be a valid way
of working in my boss' eyes
there is a wrong way of doing things, the wrong way to play basketball is to
play with your feet
nobody hates me? hahahahahahahaahaha
someone had to have cursed me to allow this drivel into my mailbox eh?
i am one of many...nah im one of one, i dont believe in furthering people
seperations from each other
that damn boat again! do you mean www.freedomship.com?
need...help...blahbleh boring
if you are in doubt it is nothing that has happened before? 
do what?
if you feel there is something wrong with you it is not like something no
man or woman has ever felt before
do what?

> you can say how you feel...you can do what you like to do...
> you can go where you like to go...this mailing list is sooooo
> insignificant...it is not even funny...
i feel very coughy..i dont think i like coughing
i like to be a smartass on rave mailing lists
i would like to go to bed
this mailing list is the whole wide world and you know it

> fear is stupid
stupidity is fear

> hate is stupid
stupidity is hate

> regret is stupid
stupidity is regret

> envy is stupid
stupidity is envy

> greed is stupid
stupidity is greed

> deception is stupid
stupidity is NOT deception


oooh

> ignore the petty
i will after ths post

> and ask yourself what you REALLY want
nuffin

> then THINK LOGICALLY what is the best way on achieving that goal
sit on my ass
done

> purification of the motive and the rest is easy
do what?


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> http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13704,00.html

i dunno, i think i'll concentrate my effort on making it to this one,
specially since i still have the plane ticket i bought for the warp
lighthouse party.

http://alltomorrowsparties.co.uk/

autechre isn't mentioned on the lineup, but in my head i am thinking they
are there. derek put that thought in my head, so maybe he can confirm or
deny this. but yeah, i'm so going, and i know a few other on this list are
too. bladow!

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> here's a little something:
> 
>
http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13704,00.html

thanks! =] i'll take a look as soon as i have a little
more free time than it takes to write a thank you
email ;]

> the Orb will be there. ~drool.

as will Orbital ~droolevenmore

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Anyone wanna go with me??

reference my earlier post refering to Homelands 2001
regarding places to go ;]

>   Ok, after some of the best and worst events that
> could possibly take place 
> in 2000, I am hoping for somewhat of a turn around
> in 2001. 

amen to that.
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> you can say how you feel...you can do what you
like to do...
> you can go where you like to go...

you can dance if you want to...

oh nevermind.
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> autechre isn't mentioned on the lineup, but in my
> head i am thinking they
> are there. derek put that thought in my head, so
> maybe he can confirm or
> deny this. but yeah, i'm so going, 

count me in.

it is SO on!
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Subject: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are handing out

The amount of misinformation on these anti-rave propaganda flyers is
laughable!  Check this out for a good laugh and for a true understanding of
how our assbackwards government REALLY works:


http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer.html  front of flyer

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"words used by ravers:

hyperreality."


--- nathan <nhgarlan@artsci.wustl.edu> wrote:
> The amount of misinformation on these anti-rave
> propaganda flyers is
> laughable!  Check this out for a good laugh and for
> a true understanding of
> how our assbackwards government REALLY works:
> 
> 
> http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer.html  front of
> flyer
> 
> http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer2.html  back of
> flyer
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: [mw] i'm very disappointed...

that you all forgot that yellow is the color of sun
rays.

keep on movin,
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really? that didn't upset me in the least.

-t

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that you all forgot that yellow is the color of sun
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Subject: Re: [mw] i want you to listen...and i want you to listen good...

I think I understand to a certain point what you are saying, but really,
I'm not sure that you can or should make a difference.  Just sayin' man,
that the world is too huge, and there's always gonn'a be numbskulls, and
white trash hangin' around.  Besides, if what you're saying is true and
practical, what's the point of being on this list, and actually sending
what you're sending??  Also, if we're to think logically on how to
achieve our goals, then should we REALLY be going wherever we want to,
and doing whatever we like??

Mite not be well advised... :)

Just my 2 cents well ok, a lil' more then that....

Son316east@aol.com wrote:
> 
> first things first...
> 
> there will be no third world war, because i will not allow it
> 
> bush will not be assasinated because i will not allow it
> 
> leidra does not hate meaghan...meaghan does not hate leidra
> 
> i do not hate michael or mariah...and they do not hate me
> 
> everything in the past is in the past
> 
> there was to be a second coming, but things got changed...
> sorry i changed it...you will have to settle for me
> 
> there are no snakes...there are no rats...there are no
> illuminati...there will be hostile take-over...there are no
> spies...there are no terrorists...the pentagon is not the
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:19:55 -0600, nathan wrote:

>The amount of misinformation on these anti-rave propaganda flyers is
>laughable!  Check this out for a good laugh and for a true understanding of
>how our assbackwards government REALLY works:
>
>
>http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer.html  front of flyer
>
>http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer2.html  back of flyer
>


That's probably one of the more accurate govt.
produced pieces of anti-rave propaganda that
I've seen.  Some of the terms are off a little, but
overall it's quite accurate (the biggest flaw is
implying that the promoters supply the drugs - 
that one pissed me off.  Untrue in almost all cases).

Either way, whoever designed the flyer that
they show in the pamphlet should sue them
for copyright infringement. ;)

	- Joe


PS: Maybe we should do something to CHANGE
their perspective of raves, hmmmm.... ?


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:

+"words used by ravers:
+
+hyperreality."

/me is sporting his mad planet t-shirt today.

ravingmad fashunchad

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From mw-raves-return-15433-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 20:43:19 2001
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> "words used by ravers:
> 
> hyperreality."
i think thats a word only used by 80's cyberpunks that wear lots of aluminum
foil

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From mw-raves-return-15434-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 20:45:33 2001
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hi.

i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.

i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with some ravers.

peace,
charles


-----
Shameless promotion:
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KONTRAST
Wednesday, Jan 31st.
@1470s club in Downtown Dayton, Ohio

1st Floor (hip hop):

Scratchmatic Assassins
N/N (nonekned)
1ETCH3
feat. SPEKTER

also a Special Guest beamed in
from a sekret location!


2nd Floor (drum and bass):

whitt
cyan mizu
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jdub
oeb

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From mw-raves-return-15435-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 20:46:55 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are handing out

heh someone posted that to kandie4life like 9283743 years ago.

jungle (room),
m groovy k

At 02:19 PM 1/25/2001 -0600, nathan wrote:
>The amount of misinformation on these anti-rave propaganda flyers is
>laughable!  Check this out for a good laugh and for a true understanding of
>how our assbackwards government REALLY works:
>
>
>http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer.html  front of flyer
>
>http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer2.html  back of flyer
>
>
>
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From mw-raves-return-15436-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 20:48:50 2001
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dood, the essence of zen liquid x (pee pills) i took is causing
an elevation in my euphoria to the point where i'm in a state of
hyperreality. this posivibe is making me feel so
underground...must be the new millenium.

what the fuck is celestrial? ever heard of proofreading?
... jsn


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there are raver's on here? zen liquid x, man!

sorry...i'm a jerk. pleased to meetcha.


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> hi.
>
> i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
>
> i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with
some ravers.
>
> peace,
> charles
>
>
> -----
> Shameless promotion:
> invisible sounds presents:
> KONTRAST
> Wednesday, Jan 31st.
> @1470s club in Downtown Dayton, Ohio
>
> 1st Floor (hip hop):
>
> Scratchmatic Assassins
> N/N (nonekned)
> 1ETCH3
> feat. SPEKTER
>
> also a Special Guest beamed in
> from a sekret location!
>
>
> 2nd Floor (drum and bass):
>
> whitt
> cyan mizu
> hirockem
> jdub
> oeb
>
> email is@invisiblesounds.net for more info.
> http://www.invisiblesounds.net
>
> it's all about the beats.
> -is ) ) )
>
>
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In a message dated 1/25/01 3:31:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< that you all forgot that yellow is the color of sun
 rays.
 
 keep on movin,
 pixie >>


wierd..  to me the sun rays always look 389043890 different colors =P

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and then you go blind.

-t

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In a message dated 1/25/01 3:31:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< that you all forgot that yellow is the color of sun
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wierd..  to me the sun rays always look 389043890 different colors =P

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> hi.
hello charles

> i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
hello charles

> i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with 
> some ravers.
hello charles

> peace,
> charles
plur,
micah

but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is allowed to take
him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"

> Shameless promotion:
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> KONTRAST
> Wednesday, Jan 31st.
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i'll be at this, you should too.


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does anyone know where i could get capsules that might contain a substance
that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?  i think it'd be
fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.

this will be a glorious day for mw-raves.

or not.
-t

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dood, the essence of zen liquid x (pee pills) i took is causing
an elevation in my euphoria to the point where i'm in a state of
hyperreality. this posivibe is making me feel so
underground...must be the new millenium.

what the fuck is celestrial? ever heard of proofreading?
... jsn


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In a message dated 1/25/01 3:53:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< and then you go blind.
 
 -t >>


blind?
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maybe you've already got burn-in, like an old video game screen.

(hums the pac-man song),
-t

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blind?
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muah, that just sounds like an invitation to do it!

how did you warn him about mw-r?

whats the fun of being new if you dont get a little abuse?
-t

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> peace,
> charles
plur,
micah

but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is allowed to take
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> but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is allowed to take
> him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"
too late some jerk already did.

-charles

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> whats the fun of being new if you dont get a little abuse?
yo man i used to lurk back in day of 1999.



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>overall it's quite accurate (the biggest flaw is
>implying that the promoters supply the drugs -
>that one pissed me off.  Untrue in almost all cases).

unless connecticut is like ohio.  ;P

mk


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> does anyone know where i could get capsules that might 
> contain a substance
> that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?  
> i think it'd be
> fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.
im sure somewhere there is a guide to making geltabs at home

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From mw-raves-return-15449-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 21:03:39 2001
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> heh someone posted that to kandie4life like 9283743 years ago.
i want to point out that michael knight is a member of kandie4life

i shouldnt need a witty closing for something like that

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> > but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is 
> allowed to take
> > him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"
> too late some jerk already did.
> 
> -charles
> 
> p.s. <sarcasm> </sarcasm> belongs on probably any of my posts
this is mw-raves
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>but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is allowed to take
>him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"

what am i gonna do with all this k-y jelly?

> > @1470s club in Downtown Dayton, Ohio
>
>i'll be at this,

oh, nevermind that last question!

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Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Anyone wanna go with me??

Have specific dates for that??

Im just too damn lazy to look it up myself.. and speaking from advice... The 
creamfields last year were just average... I hope the Homelands 2001 would 
be much better...

Dan


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>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:54:12 -0800 (PST)
>
>reference my earlier post refering to Homelands 2001
>regarding places to go ;]
>
> >   Ok, after some of the best and worst events that
> > could possibly take place
> > in 2000, I am hoping for somewhat of a turn around
> > in 2001.
>
>amen to that.
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vitamin e liquigels?

m?k

>does anyone know where i could get capsules that might contain a substance
>that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?  i think it'd be
>fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.

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> >but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is 
> allowed to take
> >him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"
> 
> what am i gonna do with all this k-y jelly?
peanut butter, honey wheat bread...

> > > @1470s club in Downtown Dayton, Ohio
> >
> >i'll be at this,
> 
> oh, nevermind that last question!
bring it on baby

is this for the kandie4life comment earlier?

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> muah, that just sounds like an invitation to do it!
shhhh! don't tell!

> how did you warn him about mw-r?
well i didnt
i think he was on in the past
and he knows some of you fuckers
he's pixies favorite...

> whats the fun of being new if you dont get a little abuse?
whats the fun of anything if you dont get a little abuse?
oooh.
baby.
music.
sounds.
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it would work, but i think it'd be too easy.

i still might...

with selenium,
-t

my parents hawked shaklee, junkies!

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vitamin e liquigels?

m?k

>does anyone know where i could get capsules that might contain a substance
>that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?  i think it'd
be
>fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.

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From mw-raves-return-15457-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 21:13:41 2001
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> >overall it's quite accurate (the biggest flaw is
> >implying that the promoters supply the drugs -
> >that one pissed me off.  Untrue in almost all cases).
> 
> unless connecticut is like ohio.  ;P
soo...michael...excited about that party you are PROMOTING IN OHIO THIS
WEEKEND?

oh.
sorry

didn't want to slip the info on your partnering with tony's pee selling
game...

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this is REALLY starting to get to me
and that flier posting earlier reminded me of it
http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer2.html
http://www.projectplur.com/raveflyer.html

so anyway, a designer drug...it even gives an accurate description on the
flyer, then contradicts itself
"Designer drugs created to feed the appetite..."
CREATED as a drug is what a designer drug is
then it lists three drugs that were created for other purposes and perverted
to rave-use

bastards
and ecstasy isnt a designer drug


i really feel like calling up the dea and giving them some accurate
rave-terminology

then i can help fight raves too!

BOOO TOOO RAAAVEESSS

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OH you are michael knight of the darkside kru in sweden! I DIDNT KNOW!


RESPECT!

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:02:55 -0600
> From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> To: oeb <oeb@invisiblesounds.net>, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>
>
> >i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with some ravers.
>
> Rave is not just a way of dressing it are an lifestyle too!
>
> There's a connection between all ravers than cannot be found among any
> other culture. We stick together!
>
> Rave is about tripping and dancing all night long to hard anti-commercial
> music.
>
> Rave are not for the beginners, you have to be into the ravescene for a
> couple of years before you are accepted in the ravegroup.
>
> Rave djs are the most skilled djs, not like the stupid HipHop djs that just
> stand there and try to look cool and scratch a little.
>
> mk
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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>BOOO TOOO RAAAVEESSS


This coming from the boy who was raving so hard this past weekend, I thought 
he was gonna collapse!

-Jen

When they were introduced, he made a witicism, hoping to be liked.  She laughed extremley hard, hoping to be liked.  Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead with the very same twist to their faces.
-David Foster Wallace

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>Thems fightin' words there buddy!!
>
>
>Please exclude Cleveland from your list...

heh, not entirely ;)

actually i thought about the fact that there are plenty of ohio promoters 
that are on the up and up and it's probably no worse there than anywhere 
else.  but then i figured that if i didn't go off half-cocked, i wouldn't 
be me.  ("if i can't play loud, i'm not UFO!")

hey darwin how come you never elaborated on that charly & theo show 
?!?  OUT WITH IT MANG!

wonderful days,
mk
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>i want to point out that michael knight is a member of kandie4life

well not anymore.  that list has 10 times the traffic of mw-raves.  but 
it's all OMG YAYAZ!!!!!!  LOL WOWWWSERS !!!!!!!!!

hehe
mkandie
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> >BOOO TOOO RAAAVEESSS
> 
> 
> This coming from the boy who was raving so hard this past 
> weekend, I thought 
> he was gonna collapse!
NOT TRUE!
that was a house party
that doesnt count

man it smells like ether in here....	


so hush

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YOur not the only one.  A rave girly or skater girly would be nice.
However the ones I know I think would cheat so anything serious I couldn't
have with them. 

I am way too innocent for 23.  I need to start the whore phase like people
do in high school college.   I figure I have 7 years to make up for.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Wheeeeeeee wrote:

> Speaking of the title, I wish I had a sexy rave-girly..........
> 
> Just a pretty random thought :)
> 
> TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 1/24/01 10:03:09 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> > Son316east@aol.com writes:
> >
> > << sorry shawn, not everybody is born a hater like you.
> >
> >  but keep tryin. >>
> >
> > I disagree...
> >
> > I think shawne has one greatbighuge heart..  and there are several factors
> > that go into that one..
> >
> > he's just cynical as fuck.. and I *doubt* he takes mw-raves personally and
> > seriously.. for the most part.
> >
> > nothing wrong with being cynical.
> >
> > it actually kinna rocks.
> >
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Join the few of use who talk bad about homless bums and the like.  I have
pissed off some, but I don't care.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, jsn111 wrote:

> 
> it's all tony's fault i'm back. he made me miss you fuckers. blame him if i
> make any nasty comments.
> 
> oh, and check this link. freaky...narcs can dance.
>    http://www.nstend.com/2012/madfam4/generic_poster-lg.jpg
> 
> --
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> --------------------------------------------
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It only sucks if you trust such sluts.  Never trust girls, EVER.  They can
only be trusted after they fatten up after having kids and it's only
because they will no long be able to get guys.  Personally I used to trust
girls, but so many have lied (as far as I know non cheated but my max
relationship was 2 months) to me it's hard to trust any.  I figure I will
have my whore/slut phase for another 7-10 years then I may get married
around 30-35 to a fresh hottie out of law school or something.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 OmyGODiMaDJ@aol.com wrote:

> and it really sucks when ur g/f cheats on you with her x g/f...man that sucked
> 
> 
> ---funny you should mention, cause the exact same thing happened to me!!  aaron.
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Subject: RE: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves	, etc.

And if the ho is packing she will blast you?  Brings up a good question,
how many dealers are packing at raves?

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

> i did not sell any pee-ills to greg, i think he has his own hookup.  humph,
> someone is moving in on my territory.
> 
> i will smack the ho,
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Son316east@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at
> raves, etc.
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> 
> gdamiani@umich.edu writes:
> 
> << stevieT - messiah, level 32 (demigod) troll, and clit-tease
>  extraordinaire.
>  
>  personally, i'm beginning to wonder why you're still unemployed as
>  well.  are you 100% sure all this stuff is on your resume? >>
> 
> huh?!...i been workin for some time now!
> 
> who supplies you with such bunk info?!...your crack dealer?!
> ...did you also believe it when tony sold you those capsules
> full of his piss that they were pure liquid gold ecstacy?!
> 
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Subject: [mw] a thought or three...(long)

Below is a rant by ME inspired by the Connecticut anti-rave propaganda
flyers.  Read it or don't read it, enjoy or don't enjoy, agree or don't
agree--it's ultimately your choice.  Simply misinformation from my head to
yours:

--------------
This gave me a good laugh today!  I cannot even begin to go into the
blatantly false assumptions that this anti-rave propaganda contains.  This
is the kind of misinformation that the government is choosing to "combat"
the "problem" of raves.  Raves aren't the problem.  Drugs are.  And even
that is up to debate because drugs are only a problem because they are made
into one.  If the governmnent really WANTED to take care of the drug problem
then they would counter the problem at its SOURCE which is manufacturers in
other countries and the drugs coming in through the borders.  Of course that
in of itself is unrealistic considering the volume of people going in and
out of this country everyday, any one of which may have on his person mass
amounts of drugs with the intent to distribute into the country.

The fact that people do drugs at raves or concerts or in their homes or at
school or wherever and whenever is a SYMPTOM of the problem.  You cannot
solve a problem by attacking its symptoms anymore than you can attack the
common cold by trying to erradicate a runny nose.  Well, regardless, this
situation is just starting to heat up, around the country, and here in St.
Louis, and it really comes down to a lack of communication.  Promoters are
all for not having drugs at their events but it is simply impossible to keep
them out without totally disrespecting someone's inalienable rights as a
human being by searching them FULLY.  Cops, and government officials will
not communicate with us about this without bringing in their misinformed
assumptions of morality, judgment calls, etc. about us.  There is no
listening and learning going on, simply bickering with their views being
RIGHT and everyone else being WRONG because they say so.  There is a
movement within the governing of cities to combat raves by labeling them as
potential crackhouses which is WRONG.

There is something so beautiful about this music and this culture that is
producing some of the most enlightened individuals on this planet, and I
personally believe that the infamous THEY are scared of the principles of
FREEDOM which a "rave" connotates.  One goes into a rave and is able to make
CHOCIES without anyone but himself and the people around him to decide if
they are right or wrong, or even if it matters at all what right and wrong
is as long as the music is there and people are happy...

What do you once you realize that you've been living your life in a prison?
What do you do once you have enlightened yourself to the point of realizing
that the system that you have grown up to accept IS NOT WORKING and needs to
be changed?  What do you do when you realize that it is much more than the
system that is the problem, but the moral and ethical judgments and
assumptions that have been hardwired into your brain by social normalization
since the day you were born?  What do you do when you realize that you have
transcended the idea of normal in order to understand and embrace the idea
of uniqueness?  

Do you sit by and watch as people live their lives in circles and cycles,
repeating the same choices over and over again, never getting anywhere but
where they've been the whole time, until they die?

Do you scream out and say, "THIS ISN'T RIGHT!!  I AM A SENTIENT INTELLIGENT
BEING WITH FREE WILL AND THEREFORE THE ABILITY TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS!!!"

Do you wish to move forward or stand still?

I know that I want to move forward.  I know that many others do too.  I know
that the time is fast approaching that this idea will wash up from the
undercurrent and onto the shores of America to be discovered and examined.
But will it fix anything just to KNOW that YOU ARE NOT FREE?

No.

The only way to fix a problem is to actively set out to FIX it.  The problem
is simple and it is a problem of the wholistic big picture which ripples
itself down into all facets of human organization, institutionalization, and
existence.  It is the core of the problem of our
rave/drug/government/bullshit problem and it is the core of the problem of
humanity as a whole.  And it is this simple:

You are not free.

The solution is even simpler.  Become free.  Free of mind, free of spirit,
free of thought, free of body, free of judgments, free of assumptions, free
to be you and me forever in eternity.

But you have got to WANT it.  And you cannot want it until you ACCEPT that
you are the same as me and I am the same as you and we are the same as
everything else because we are all energy which is the basis for all of
everything that exists and doesn't exist in this infinite universe.  Then
once you've accepted this then TEACH it to those around you.  But you cannot
teach by simply telling someone to be one way or another, or by telling them
that they are right or wrong, you must teach by EXAMPLE.  And they will
learn.  How to teach by example?

Smile.
Laugh.
Love.

Do not judge but respect and accept everyone for what they are.  Everyone is
UNIQUE and different although paradoxically made out of the SAME thing,
energy.  Remember that you may not be right or wrong, and they may not be
right or wrong, and I may not be right or wrong, but it does not matter
because we are each and every one of us both UNIQUE in our spirit and the
SAME as each other.  We all have much to teach each other and much to learn
from each other and the only way to break the circles which bind us both
spiritually and physically to this third dimensionally reality known as
earth is to COMMUNICATE with each other in a fully accepting way.


Or whatever...


natonatonatonato

Go and live and love and teach and learn


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Well, not true in Indiana, however the state law was overturned as it
should have been.  If they make it more Bill of RIghts friendly it will go
back into effect in July.  Also, if the cops want to be dicks they could
fuck with you and find your true age.  I hear it's illegal to be 18 and
not have ID on you in Indiana.  I am not sure if this is true or not and I
am a cop.  Even if it was I could careless, the state has no right to make
people carry ID.  

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Jeffrey Paul wrote:

> At 02:10 PM 2001-01-24, Eliot Stanton wrote:
> 
> >yeah 17 is the limit for curfew in alot of states....
> 
> curfew is a local (city and/or county) ordinance, not a state law in most 
> places.
> 
> note: if you're 16, leave your id at home and lie to the cops... it always 
> worked for me.
> 
> -j
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>i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with some ravers.

Rave is not just a way of dressing it are an lifestyle too!

There's a connection between all ravers than cannot be found among any 
other culture. We stick together!

Rave is about tripping and dancing all night long to hard anti-commercial 
music.

Rave are not for the beginners, you have to be into the ravescene for a 
couple of years before you are accepted in the ravegroup.

Rave djs are the most skilled djs, not like the stupid HipHop djs that just 
stand there and try to look cool and scratch a little.

mk


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"..Ravers are usually associated with the following:

- 60's/70's clothing..."

I wondered why my grandfather suddenly began listening to Underworld...

- Nike Emblems.."

Tiger Woods is a RAVER.  Must've picked it up at the British Open.

....Looking for Kandy at the PGA Championship.

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
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Dear twit,
   maybe you can't trust your girly friends because you have that kind of
attitude?
lesson one, don't refer to them as sluts they dont like that
and if they do...they are.
i have been able to trust every girl ive ever been with and never been
cheated on
and blah blah blah
you seriously hang out with the wrong people there ryan.
but hey i guess all you anti-everything shotgun toting republicans stick
together huh?

i love using political affiliation as an insult

girls rule
micah

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> And if the ho is packing she will blast you?  Brings up a 
> good question,
> how many dealers are packing at raves?
actually i don't think tony's post brought up any kind of question like
that..
you did

man i miss the days of pee, poop and making fun of stevie
all this political extremism and theoretical conspiracy bullshit is getting
to me

packin my plur

> > i did not sell any pee-ills to greg, i think he has his own 
> hookup.  humph,
> > someone is moving in on my territory.
> > 
> > i will smack the ho,

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    Thank you micah for saying what I was too busy to. 

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net


> Dear twit,
>    maybe you can't trust your girly friends because you have that kind of
> attitude?
> lesson one, don't refer to them as sluts they dont like that
> and if they do...they are.
> i have been able to trust every girl ive ever been with and never been
> cheated on
> and blah blah blah
> you seriously hang out with the wrong people there ryan.
> but hey i guess all you anti-everything shotgun toting republicans stick
> together huh?
> 
> i love using political affiliation as an insult
> 
> girls rule
> micah



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>soo...michael...excited about that party you are PROMOTING IN OHIO THIS
>WEEKEND?

i'm not a promoter!  ;P

mk
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i still talk about pee...does that mean i'm old...

skool?
-t

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> And if the ho is packing she will blast you?  Brings up a 
> good question,
> how many dealers are packing at raves?
actually i don't think tony's post brought up any kind of question like
that..
you did

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> Rave is not just a way of dressing it are an lifestyle too!
>
> There's a connection between all ravers than cannot be found
among any
> other culture. We stick together!
--
what about the juggalos? ICP! detroit reprazent!

heh...er, um. nice weather we're having.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> you seriously hang out with the wrong people there ryan.
> but hey i guess all you anti-everything shotgun toting republicans stick
> together huh?
> 
> i love using political affiliation as an insult

Anti everything? I am pro abortion, pro gun, pro everything that doesn't
take away or hurt an innocent party or their property.  Oh and I voted
Libertarian liberal Democraphead.  Besides, what's wrong with hanging out
with sluts if all your after is a little fun/ass?  Let me guess, your
anti-slut? Anti-sex?  Anti-hooking up?  If I find a decent girl I can
trsut I will try to keep her, but most have been with too many guys for me
to not want to go out and have my fun.  Besides, instade of spending money
on cloths and stuff for her, I could use it at the Gun Show for ammo,
magazines, and the Glocks I am going to buy.


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> actually i don't think tony's post brought up any kind of question like
> that..
> you did

So since the law says you cannot carry guns your one the sheeple who think
drug dealers don't pack?  The post mentioned drugs, dealing drugs.  Drug
dealers carry guns (yes, some people do violate the law).

> 
> man i miss the days of pee, poop and making fun of stevie
> all this political extremism and theoretical conspiracy bullshit is getting
> to me
> 

Conspiracy bullshit?  Is the DEA busting rave promoters under an
anti-crack house law conspiracy bullshit?  I don't think so.  It happened,
and it will happen more and more and more.  However the government has
sheeple like you thinking it's ok, it's for the greater good and anyone
who is aginst such a think must be a conspiracy nut.

 > packin my plur

packin my HK .40 compact with NightSights.



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> Anti everything? I am pro abortion, pro gun, pro everything 
> that doesn't
> take away or hurt an innocent party or their property.  Oh and I voted
> Libertarian liberal Democraphead.  Besides, what's wrong with 
> hanging out
> with sluts if all your after is a little fun/ass?  Let me guess, your
> anti-slut? Anti-sex?  Anti-hooking up?  If I find a decent girl I can
> trsut I will try to keep her, but most have been with too 
> many guys for me
> to not want to go out and have my fun.  Besides, instade of 
> spending money
> on cloths and stuff for her, I could use it at the Gun Show for ammo,
> magazines, and the Glocks I am going to buy.

yep yer anti-anti-abortion
anti-gun control
anti everything that takes away innocent peoples rights or property
nothing is wrong with hanging out with sluts, im just saying that if you
want
something other than sluts maybe you should stop hanging out with them?
they travel in packs yanno

im anti-slut yes
im not anti-sex, unless its slut-sex
anti-hooking up, not unless its slut-hooking up

i just think the catchall statement that girls are sluts is a bit hasty
but really i dont care, i know lots of non-sluts
as for buying glocks...you keep buying your magazines and guns and i'll keep
buyin my gins and my juices
and together maybe we can go in for a 88 caddy and pimp it in indy sometime

but obviously being a cop is a perfect profession for you
you get a gun and you get to defend the rights of the people based on what
the laws lay those out to be.


neat, its good to see people love what they do

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> hey darwin how come you never elaborated on that charly & theo show
> ?!?  OUT WITH IT MANG!



What do you want to know??  It was 92 or something, maybe 93, and they
banged out crazy shit!!!

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> So since the law says you cannot carry guns your one the 
> sheeple who think
> drug dealers don't pack?  The post mentioned drugs, dealing 
> drugs.  Drug
> dealers carry guns (yes, some people do violate the law).
actually the post mentioned selling pee
as in a joke
and i dont think MANY drug dealers carry guns inside the venue at parties
do you go to parties? or do you just do off-duty security?
i have known many a dealer in my day and many smalltime rave dealers
barely make money much less carry guns

i really think ravedealers are different from your street dealers

that should be a fun topic

> > man i miss the days of pee, poop and making fun of stevie
> > all this political extremism and theoretical conspiracy 
> bullshit is getting
> > to me
> > 
> 

> Conspiracy bullshit?  Is the DEA busting rave promoters under an
> anti-crack house law conspiracy bullshit?  I don't think so.  
no not really
but i dont think that was ever posed as a conspiracy and i am not accusing
you of crying coverup
every other email
thats for noble and stevie to do
yer just more extreme than me

> It happened,
> and it will happen more and more and more.  However the government has
> sheeple like you thinking it's ok, it's for the greater good 
> and anyone
> who is aginst such a think must be a conspiracy nut.
nah
the government doesnt exist

>  > packin my plur
> packin my HK .40 compact with NightSights.
neat
 i hope you shoot lots of people one day

we should all carry out our dreams you nut

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> i still talk about pee...does that mean i'm old...
> skool?
you define oldskool tony.
sellin pee is our roots, we need to all get back to that!

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In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:

<< I am way too innocent for 23. >>



ahhahahahahhahaha


for some reason.. I find that hard to believe.... you being male and all

=P


lorie

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> well not anymore.  that list has 10 times the traffic of 
> mw-raves.  but 
10 times the traffic?

we'll see about that.
remember im back on days..now
so watch yohself

> it's all OMG YAYAZ!!!!!!  LOL WOWWWSERS !!!!!!!!!
like this?

OMG YAYAZ!!!!	

totally

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Subject: [mw] Synchronicity...this weekend!!!!!

anyone planning on going???  

Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
 purchase presale early to avoid waiting in line 
 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
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 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
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 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
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Alcohol won't dissolve normal gel caps (but it will eat through the non-gelatin
veggie ones), so just get some denatured alcohol from Home Depot and some yellow
food coloring and you can spread your PLUR all over the place.


Tom

Tony Sebion wrote:

> does anyone know where i could get capsules that might contain a substance
> that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?  i think it'd be
> fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.
>
> this will be a glorious day for mw-raves.
>
> or not.
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsn111
> Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are handing out
>
> dood, the essence of zen liquid x (pee pills) i took is causing
> an elevation in my euphoria to the point where i'm in a state of
> hyperreality. this posivibe is making me feel so
> underground...must be the new millenium.
>
> what the fuck is celestrial? ever heard of proofreading?
> ... jsn
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>RESPECT!

it's me, i gots a black belt in keepin' it real.  respect.

ali mk
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> OH you are michael knight of the darkside kru in sweden! I DIDNT KNOW!
> 
> 
> RESPECT!
dont respect him, he spins happygoacore

michaels got raveys

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>What do you want to know??  It was 92 or something, maybe 93, and they
>banged out crazy shit!!!

but this happened in CLEVELAND?  you are saying that CL & MT played live in 
CLEVELAND?!

mk
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>packin my plur

micah's trousers turn into a knapsack.

it's true, it's true.

mk, choosing not to go for the obvoius "Fudge-packer" comment


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From mw-raves-return-15492-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Jan 25 22:29:45 2001
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how about just using real pee. I mean what the hell it's only h2o, sodium,
and a few other waste elements. actually i've heard that for some aliments,
drinking pee is a cure.

-----Original Message-----
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Alcohol won't dissolve normal gel caps (but it will eat through the
non-gelatin
veggie ones), so just get some denatured alcohol from Home Depot and some
yellow
food coloring and you can spread your PLUR all over the place.


Tom

Tony Sebion wrote:

> does anyone know where i could get capsules that might contain a substance
> that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?  i think it'd
be
> fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.
>
> this will be a glorious day for mw-raves.
>
> or not.
> -t
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsn111
> Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are handing out
>
> dood, the essence of zen liquid x (pee pills) i took is causing
> an elevation in my euphoria to the point where i'm in a state of
> hyperreality. this posivibe is making me feel so
> underground...must be the new millenium.
>
> what the fuck is celestrial? ever heard of proofreading?
> ... jsn
>
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>Anti everything? I am pro abortion, pro gun, pro everything

whoa you're "pro abortion" ?!  i've heard of pro-choice but never "pro 
abortion".  do you put up billboards encouraging pregnant women to get 
abortions?

>the Glocks I am going to buy

you're such a raver!  buying the cutest little gun you can get!

mk

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>what about the juggalos? ICP! detroit reprazent!

jsn111 tired to put  a weave in his nut hair.

mk
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> >overall it's quite accurate (the biggest flaw is
> >implying that the promoters supply the drugs -
> >that one pissed me off.  Untrue in almost all cases).
> 
> unless connecticut is like ohio.  ;P
> 



Thems fightin' words there buddy!!


Please exclude Cleveland from your list...


darw_n

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mix the pee with powdered gelatin and let it solidify. they break
it up super small and pack capsules with it. or make gummy pee
animals with a candy mold.


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> how about just using real pee. I mean what the hell it's only
h2o, sodium,
> and a few other waste elements. actually i've heard that for
some aliments,
> drinking pee is a cure.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Sprynczynatyk [mailto:spry0004@tc.umn.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 2:19 PM
> To: 100% plur (made from concentrate)
> Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are handing
out
>
>
> Alcohol won't dissolve normal gel caps (but it will eat through
the
> non-gelatin
> veggie ones), so just get some denatured alcohol from Home
Depot and some
> yellow
> food coloring and you can spread your PLUR all over the place.
>
>
> Tom
>
> Tony Sebion wrote:
>
> > does anyone know where i could get capsules that might
contain a substance
> > that would appear to be pee without that substance leaking?
i think it'd
> be
> > fun to have souvenier pee pills to give out.
> >
> > this will be a glorious day for mw-raves.
> >
> > or not.
> > -t
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jsn111
> > Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are
handing out
> >
> > dood, the essence of zen liquid x (pee pills) i took is
causing
> > an elevation in my euphoria to the point where i'm in a state
of
> > hyperreality. this posivibe is making me feel so
> > underground...must be the new millenium.
> >
> > what the fuck is celestrial? ever heard of proofreading?
> > ... jsn
> >
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Maybe he's an abortion doctor. They are pro-abortion. That's how they get
paid.

on a lighter note...
i just farted

but I think it's a conspiracy...Micah snuck some beans into my sushi. I
think he's part of the illuminati..his name backwards is hacim and well, we
all know what that means...

-----Original Message-----
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>Anti everything? I am pro abortion, pro gun, pro everything

whoa you're "pro abortion" ?!  i've heard of pro-choice but never "pro 
abortion".  do you put up billboards encouraging pregnant women to get 
abortions?

>the Glocks I am going to buy

you're such a raver!  buying the cutest little gun you can get!

mk

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yep, same with about every other super star...

those two,  Rob Gee, ummm, DX-13, C-Tank, ummmm, Richie Hawtin as FUSE, We
had a hardcore battle between Lenny Dee, Repeat, Micro (that's right
kiddies, Micro playing HARDcore), Scott Forbush, and my partner, Ian
Mariano...

What else, we had a bunch of Rotterdam Records people...

Then we have had all the other acts, Prodigy, T99, Human Resource, you mom,
Wink a bunch of times, Smart-E's, what else...

Oh hell, I forget...

But every weekend, we all would rush to the news stands, get the cities
Scene Magazine, and see what German terror DJ or live act was coming...

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

www.thedemonstration.com
www.sphereproductions.com
www.mannequinodd.com
www.mp3.com/darw_n
search for "djdarwin" on napster
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>
> >What do you want to know??  It was 92 or something, maybe 93, and they
> >banged out crazy shit!!!
>
> but this happened in CLEVELAND?  you are saying that CL & MT played live
in
> CLEVELAND?!
>
> mk
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/me draws little evil clown faces on the head of his peepee with
white makeup and hands it a microphone...MC DICK IN DA HAUS!


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>
> >what about the juggalos? ICP! detroit reprazent!
>
> jsn111 tired to put  a weave in his nut hair.
>
> mk
>
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YAH HEY WELL YAH HEY WELL HAY I HEARD IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT IS LIKE 
ROLLIN YAH IF YOU DRINK THEIR PISS YO YOU CAN ROLL FOR FREE OFF OF THEIR 
PISS COS THAT IS WHERE IT "GOES".

YAH WELL HEY THAT'S JUST WHAT I HEARD PEACE OUT YO

mskitzo

>how about just using real pee. I mean what the hell it's only h2o, sodium,
>and a few other waste elements. actually i've heard that for some aliments,
>drinking pee is a cure.

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!@#$#@!^%$#%@$#%#@$!

i don't know what i'd do if i saw CL & MT live.  same goes for smart-e's 
and i'm assuming early 90's prodigy...mc ruff?  yow.

mk

At 05:41 PM 1/25/2001 -0800, darw_n wrote:
>yep, same with about every other super star...
>
>those two,  Rob Gee, ummm, DX-13, C-Tank, ummmm, Richie Hawtin as FUSE, We
>had a hardcore battle between Lenny Dee, Repeat, Micro (that's right
>kiddies, Micro playing HARDcore), Scott Forbush, and my partner, Ian
>Mariano...
>
>What else, we had a bunch of Rotterdam Records people...
>
>Then we have had all the other acts, Prodigy, T99, Human Resource, you mom,
>Wink a bunch of times, Smart-E's, what else...
>
>Oh hell, I forget...
>
>But every weekend, we all would rush to the news stands, get the cities
>Scene Magazine, and see what German terror DJ or live act was coming...
>
>darw_n
>
>"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."
>
>www.thedemonstration.com
>www.sphereproductions.com
>www.mannequinodd.com
>www.mp3.com/darw_n
>search for "djdarwin" on napster
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: "darw_n" <darwin@veriomail.com>; "mw-raves" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Cc: <happyusa@topica.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 2:18 PM
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>
>
> >
> > >What do you want to know??  It was 92 or something, maybe 93, and they
> > >banged out crazy shit!!!
> >
> > but this happened in CLEVELAND?  you are saying that CL & MT played live
>in
> > CLEVELAND?!
> >
> > mk
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > michael knight - stateside happy hardcore - www.americancheese.org
> > michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@americancheese.org
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> >
> >

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it may work, it does with peyote and mushrooms. i've tried swapping saliva
with rollers just to see if i could get anything but that don't work. I just
got AIDS instead...

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YAH HEY WELL YAH HEY WELL HAY I HEARD IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT IS LIKE 
ROLLIN YAH IF YOU DRINK THEIR PISS YO YOU CAN ROLL FOR FREE OFF OF THEIR 
PISS COS THAT IS WHERE IT "GOES".

YAH WELL HEY THAT'S JUST WHAT I HEARD PEACE OUT YO

mskitzo

>how about just using real pee. I mean what the hell it's only h2o, sodium,
>and a few other waste elements. actually i've heard that for some aliments,
>drinking pee is a cure.

________________________________________________________________________
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nathan wrote:

> Below is a rant by ME inspired by the Connecticut anti-rave propaganda
> flyers.  Read it or don't read it, enjoy or don't enjoy, agree or don't
> agree--it's ultimately your choice.  Simply misinformation from my head to
> yours:
>
> --------------
> There is something so beautiful about this music and this culture that is
> producing some of the most enlightened individuals on this planet, and I
> personally believe that the infamous THEY are scared of the principles of
> FREEDOM which a "rave" connotates.  One goes into a rave and is able to make
> CHOCIES without anyone but himself and the people around him to decide if
> they are right or wrong, or even if it matters at all what right and wrong
> is as long as the music is there and people are happy...
>
>

You're right, I love the culture, and all that jazz.  Interesting how different
schools of thought, and music have sort of been tied to each other throughout US
history. (the documentary on jazz these past weeks comes to mind) It's not a
counter-culture, or a sub-culture, but people, who just realize what moves them,
what it's like to let loose, and act on that notion. (of course this isn't
absolute, as there's assholes everywhere)

> What do you once you realize that you've been living your life in a prison?
> What do you do once you have enlightened yourself to the point of realizing
> that the system that you have grown up to accept IS NOT WORKING and needs to
> be changed?  What do you do when you realize that it is much more than the
> system that is the problem, but the moral and ethical judgments and
> assumptions that have been hardwired into your brain by social normalization
> since the day you were born?  What do you do when you realize that you have
> transcended the idea of normal in order to understand and embrace the idea
> of uniqueness?

Chill man, we don't live in a police state.  We're quite lucky that we even have
the opportunity to contemplate this subject and our experiences in dealing with
it.  If it weren't for our freedom, and the affluence of our country, we
wouldn't have time to do such things, we'd be stuck wondering where our next
meal is going to come from, or if we're going to be hanged for talking about
freedom to our friend the other day.

>
> Smile.
> Laugh.
> Love.

mmmk......

>
>
> Do not judge but respect and accept everyone for what they are.  Everyone is
> UNIQUE and different although paradoxically made out of the SAME thing,
> energy.  Remember that you may not be right or wrong, and they may not be
> right or wrong, and I may not be right or wrong, but it does not matter
> because we are each and every one of us both UNIQUE in our spirit and the
> SAME as each other.  We all have much to teach each other and much to learn
> from each other and the only way to break the circles which bind us both
> spiritually and physically to this third dimensionally reality known as
> earth is to COMMUNICATE with each other in a fully accepting way.
>

The future of society my friend......  (I hope.....)



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*cough* it happens...........   *cough*  *looks away.....

TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:
>
> << I am way too innocent for 23. >>
>
> ahhahahahahhahaha
>
> for some reason.. I find that hard to believe.... you being male and all
>
> =P
>
> lorie


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> im anti-slut yes
> im not anti-sex, unless its slut-sex
> anti-hooking up, not unless its slut-hooking up

Just to clear things up, define slut?

> but obviously being a cop is a perfect profession for you
> you get a gun and you get to defend the rights of the people based on what
> the laws lay those out to be.

I should be out of this job in afew weeks.


> 
> 
> neat, its good to see people love what they do
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I have only been with one girl not very many times.  It's time to change
that within the next year or so.  I figure one hook-up/months will up the
number to current day standards.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
> rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:
> 
> << I am way too innocent for 23. >>
> 
> 
> 
> ahhahahahahhahaha
> 
> 
> for some reason.. I find that hard to believe.... you being male and all
> 
> =P
> 
> 
> lorie
> 
> 





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> but no really people, this is my friend charles no
> one is allowed to take
> him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"

that would have been a nice gesture, except that now
you've made it proof-positive that he'll be taken out
back and whooped soundly while being forced to listen
to happy hardcore through earbuds jammed into his nose
for being associated with you.

and that's just the nice people.
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--- oeb <oeb@invisiblesounds.net> wrote:
> hi.
> 
> i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
> 
> i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it
> up with some ravers.
> 
> peace,
> charles

LOOK!!! =D

guess who that is, micah!!

C'MON! GUESS!! =D
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In a message dated 1/25/01 7:18:56 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:

<< Yes is does.  It only happened to my shyness which is now gone.  SHift
 into high gear and either go clubbing every weekend for ass or lie to
 decent girls for ass.  I do not support the latter.  No reason for anyone
 to get hurt when there are plenty of girls willing to hook it up. >>



DOOOD.. DONT FORGET YOUR RUBBER...YOU DONT WANNA END UP WITH SOMETHING YOU 
CANT WASH OFF.. LIKE THE CLAPP.. OR..WARTS...  OR.. THE HIV.

*Ihopeyourbeingsarcastic*

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In a message dated 1/25/01 7:30:23 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:

<< No one lives forever.  Die now, die in 50 >>

I beg to differ....

how do you know one cant live forever??

I plan on living forever...  and I plan of finding the fountain of youth... I 
will search the world for it..alone.. or with my love. 

=)

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In a message dated 1/25/01 7:32:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< In case you have never met one there are girls who want
 friendships with benefits. >>  

and what does that spell ??

D to the R to the A to the M to the A



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From mw-raves-return-15512-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 00:55:44 2001
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And with a go get em attitude like that... I'm sure you'll be knee deep in
pussy in no time. Um... actually what you said didnt really make sense...
but I'm gonna try to interpet this one...

You havn't had many one night stands? your new years resolution is to go
and have lots of one night stands  at the rate of at least one a month?
Your need/eagerness to get laid seems to have affected your grammar skills.
 Nothing attracts the women like a lack of commuincation skills, somebody
warn the ladies :P

Its good to have goals I guess.


tad

At 06:44 PM 1/25/01 -0500, rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
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>that within the next year or so.  I figure one hook-up/months will up the
>number to current day standards.
>
>On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
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>> In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
>> rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:
>> 
>> << I am way too innocent for 23. >>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ahhahahahahhahaha
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> =P
>> 
>> 
>> lorie
>> 
>> 
>
>
>
>
>
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

> DOOOD.. DONT FORGET YOUR RUBBER...YOU DONT WANNA END UP WITH SOMETHING YOU 
> CANT WASH OFF.. LIKE THE CLAPP.. OR..WARTS...  OR.. THE HIV.


No one lives forever.  Die now, die in 50



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The infamous grammer attack!!!  My lack of high speed connection makes me
grammer bad.  It's so damn slow at 14.4K.  I need DSL or cable or whatever
to make it go fast.  I am used to typing like a mad man and being able to
correct errors so fast.  This I cannot do at home :(  As for my attitude I
am fun.  In case you have never met one there are girls who want
friendships with benefits.  There are also girls who just want to get
laid without the relationship stuff.  Good girls get cloths, love and what
pleases them from me.  Bad girls gets what they want as well, just not the
gifts the girlfriends get.  Be good to me and have a past I can deal with
get treated like a queen.  Be good to me, but we are both in it for fun,
get treated like Princess.  It's their choice.  In the next tech rally I
should have possibly over $20K, if there is a rally.  If I have no girl to
spend it on, the gun show is where it will get spent.  I am crazy, I think
I have lost it.  The illuminati are right outside.  Me thinks meeting the
wrong kinga girls has not helped my attitude.  ANy girls out there who
have only slept with say 3 guys?  Any at all?  Oh yea, you at least have
to be decent looking, avg to a littl above avg, boobs can be whatever.
ANy girls on the list fit this?  Anyone girls anywhere?  I think echelon
will get a copy of this, then I can expect a visit from the MIBs.  *Knock,
Knock*  They are hear now.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Tad wrote:

> And with a go get em attitude like that... I'm sure you'll be knee deep in
> pussy in no time. Um... actually what you said didnt really make sense...
> but I'm gonna try to interpet this one...
> 
> You havn't had many one night stands? your new years resolution is to go
> and have lots of one night stands  at the rate of at least one a month?
> Your need/eagerness to get laid seems to have affected your grammar skills.
>  Nothing attracts the women like a lack of commuincation skills, somebody
> warn the ladies :P
> 
> Its good to have goals I guess.
> 
> 
> tad
> 
> At 06:44 PM 1/25/01 -0500, rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> >I have only been with one girl not very many times.  It's time to change
> >that within the next year or so.  I figure one hook-up/months will up the
> >number to current day standards.
> >
> >On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
> >> rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:
> >> 
> >> << I am way too innocent for 23. >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ahhahahahahhahaha
> >> 
> >> 
> >> for some reason.. I find that hard to believe.... you being male and all
> >> 
> >> =P
> >> 
> >> 
> >> lorie
> >> 
> >> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> think he's part of the illuminati..his name backwards is hacim and well, we

No Bilderburg Group.  You can hear about us when Art comes back to Radio.


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> 
> >Anti everything? I am pro abortion, pro gun, pro everything
> 
> whoa you're "pro abortion" ?!  i've heard of pro-choice but never "pro 
> abortion".  do you put up billboards encouraging pregnant women to get 
> abortions?

Pro-choice is the PC word.  Fuck it.  If these "pro-choice" were all about
choice they wouldn't care about Bushy Boy pulling funding from planning
clinics that support abortion.  Seems like they get off on abortion or
something.  I am pro-abortion meaning I support the act.  Saying you
support the choice is PC.  I am usually not PC.


> 
> >the Glocks I am going to buy
> 
> you're such a raver!  buying the cutest little gun you can get!
> 
If I put a lazer sight and glow in the dark night sights I should fit in
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > packin my HK .40 compact with NightSights.
> neat
>  i hope you shoot lots of people one day
> 

THe only person I ever had my gun out on was a 15 year old girl who kicked
in my parents back door.  She woke me up (I sleep days usually) and I
foudn her stealing meds from the kitchen.  I didn't shoot her, I know
restraint, but she didn't bold till the gun made it into her line of
sight.  Then she bolted out the frong door.  No one was hurt, 99.5% of my
house was not trashed, she didn't come after me the crowbar she had, the
cops busted her all caues of my gun.  She is bi-polar or psychotic, I
really don't know what she would have done if she didn't see my gun.  For
this reason I got rubber bullets for my shotgun.  Better to keep someone
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> i think he was on in the past
> and he knows some of you fuckers
> he's pixies favorite...

/me nods furiously.

he's way more fun than those other two fuckers he
hangs out with.
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<< No one lives forever.  Die now, die in 50 >>

I beg to differ....

how do you know one cant live forever??

I plan on living forever...  and I plan of finding the fountain of youth...
I 
will search the world for it..alone.. or with my love. 

=)

Well, you can't live forever on this plane, but then why would you want to.
You can live forever as energy.

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Yes is does.  It only happened to my shyness which is now gone.  SHift
into high gear and either go clubbing every weekend for ass or lie to
decent girls for ass.  I do not support the latter.  No reason for anyone
to get hurt when there are plenty of girls willing to hook it up.

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Wheeeeeeee wrote:

> *cough* it happens...........   *cough*  *looks away.....
> 
> TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
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> > In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
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> >
> > << I am way too innocent for 23. >>
> >
> > ahhahahahahhahaha
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> > =P
> >
> > lorie
> 
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--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> >Thems fightin' words there buddy!!
> >
> >
> >Please exclude Cleveland from your list...

i'm sorry, are you referring to "thieveland?"

;]
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In a message dated 1/25/01 8:14:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< Well, you can't live forever on this plane, but then why would you want to.
 You can live forever as energy. >>


I am so not on your plane.

I am on my own jumbo jet..yeahhhhbaby

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> > >Please exclude Cleveland from your list...
> 
> i'm sorry, are you referring to "thieveland?"
> 
> ;]
> pixie
> 



blahblahblah, "thieveland 216-in-that-mix-YO!!!'  blahblah...


that shit is sooooooooooo 97, get with the times!!

;)

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> blahblahblah, "thieveland 216-in-that-mix-YO!!!' 
> blahblah...
> 
> 
> that shit is sooooooooooo 97, get with the times!!

i thought it was more '95, when it was widely known
all over the midwest that all the weird people came
from cleveland.

ALL of them ;]
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Subject: Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves, etc.

Heh, not sure that's gonna happen, not really in my persona to switch from bed
to bed :).

rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:

> Yes is does.  It only happened to my shyness which is now gone.  SHift
> into high gear and either go clubbing every weekend for ass or lie to
> decent girls for ass.  I do not support the latter.  No reason for anyone
> to get hurt when there are plenty of girls willing to hook it up.
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Wheeeeeeee wrote:
>
> > *cough* it happens...........   *cough*  *looks away.....
> >
> > TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 1/25/01 4:34:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> > > rvkeller@iupui.edu writes:
> > >
> > > << I am way too innocent for 23. >>
> > >
> > > ahhahahahahhahaha
> > >
> > > for some reason.. I find that hard to believe.... you being male and all
> > >
> > > =P
> > >
> > > lorie
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Subject: Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers that Cops in CT are handing out


>i'm sorry, are you referring to "thieveland?"

you're gonna offend him pixie!

cleveland is full of reputable promoters!

like element squad!

mk

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>
> i thought it was more '95, when it was widely known
> all over the midwest that all the weird people came
> from cleveland.
>
> ALL of them ;]


nononononono, '95 is before everyone went insane and became weird in '97.
That's when every clevelander drove to baltimore and acted hard with polo
bear sweaters and gold hoop earings...

97 is when everyone returned from baltimore with about 3 hours of real sleep
within that 2 year span.  After that, everyone turned weird and started
skateboarding and painting pentagrams on the turntables...

darw_n

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From mw-raves-return-15529-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 02:10:36 2001
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Subject: [mw] Re: [happyusa] Dieselboy video for "Atlantic State"

i guess it's okay as far as drum n bass videos go.

but it's no "original nuttah" !!

mk

At 03:37 AM 1/25/01 -0800, you wrote:
>(apologies if you've seen this)
>
>Don't know how hardcore related this is, but hey, its a type of hardcore
>anyway.  ;)
>
>broadband: rtsp://mcdelivery.bluetape.com/atlaS200.rm
>
>medium: rtsp://mcdelivery.bluetape.com/atlaS40.rm
>
>low: rtsp://mcdelivery.bluetape.com/atlaS20.rm
>
>I dunno how I feel about the "rave music video"...it just doesn't feel
>right, for some reason.  *shrug*..
>
>-Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>(bhpc, cheesestep recordings, n.e. hardcore, the new sample revolution,
>boston)
>ian@djentropy.com
>http://www.djentropy.com
>http://www.ne-hardcore.com
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>narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine - Genacide II
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From mw-raves-return-15530-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 02:40:19 2001
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what is rave?? is this a new genre??

so out of the loop
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> hi.
> 
> i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
> 
> i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with some ravers.
> 
> peace,
> charles
> 
> 
> -----
> Shameless promotion:
> invisible sounds presents:
> KONTRAST
> Wednesday, Jan 31st.
> @1470s club in Downtown Dayton, Ohio
> 
> 1st Floor (hip hop):
> 
> Scratchmatic Assassins
> N/N (nonekned)
> 1ETCH3
> feat. SPEKTER
> 
> also a Special Guest beamed in
> from a sekret location!
> 
> 
> 2nd Floor (drum and bass):
> 
> whitt
> cyan mizu
> hirockem
> jdub
> oeb
> 
> email is@invisiblesounds.net for more info.
> http://www.invisiblesounds.net
> 
> it's all about the beats.
> -is ) ) )
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From mw-raves-return-15531-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 02:40:46 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] new to list

hey chuck welcome to the list 

-THE bitch iySyS-

: hi.
: 
: i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
: 
: i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with some ravers.
: 
: peace,
: charles
: 
: 
: -----
: Shameless promotion:
: invisible sounds presents:
: KONTRAST
: Wednesday, Jan 31st.
: @1470s club in Downtown Dayton, Ohio
: 
: 1st Floor (hip hop):
: 
: Scratchmatic Assassins
: N/N (nonekned)
: 1ETCH3
: feat. SPEKTER
: 
: also a Special Guest beamed in
: from a sekret location!
: 
: 
: 2nd Floor (drum and bass):
: 
: whitt
: cyan mizu
: hirockem
: jdub
: oeb
: 
: email is@invisiblesounds.net for more info.
: http://www.invisiblesounds.net
: 
: it's all about the beats.
: -is ) ) )
: 
: 
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oh no....not charles....I thought he said he liked drum and bass.

burnin those aphrodite records
shawne


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> > hi.
> hello charles
> 
> > i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
> hello charles
> 
> > i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it up with 
> > some ravers.
> hello charles
> 
> > peace,
> > charles
> plur,
> micah
> 
> but no really people, this is my friend charles no one is allowed to take
> him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"
> 
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> i'll be at this, you should too.
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Subject: Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves	, etc.

: > And if the ho is packing she will blast you?  Brings up a
: > good question,
: > how many dealers are packing at raves?

trust me when i say alot more then you think...at least in these parts

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NO !

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: anyone planning on going???
: 
: Synchronicity
:  January 27th 2001
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: > i think he was on in the past
: > and he knows some of you fuckers
: > he's pixies favorite...
: 
: /me nods furiously.
: 
: he's way more fun than those other two fuckers he
: hangs out with.

for the record he is NOT my favorite....micah is 

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Subject: [mw] CD update!!

Aight, just lettin you know that I've collected all the names of those of 
you that requested CDs from me.  I've got them all ready to be sent out.  I 
sent some out today and the rest are going out tomorrow.  I hope you guys 
enjoy it.  I hope to do a new CD soon.  Just gotta get my ass to the record 
shop and pick up some new jungle.  It'll have the new track ("Myoptic 
Camouflage") on there too!  And maybe soon I can get it pressed to vinyl.  
But that's goin to cost alot.  Anyone wanna send donations?  :)  (don't hold 
my breath, right..hehe) j/k.  That's a ways down tha road.  We'll see.  
Ummmm...that's it!

(reply to djswitch@mail.com)

"Myoptic Camouflage"...remix comin soon!  Hear the original!!

http://www.mp3.com/cause_n_effect

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Subject: [mw] "re:design, re:schedual, postpone..." 

postponed <27 : jan : 2001> postponed

One of the *key* elements of event "signal", as not only a event, but a
showcase, is the environment and the flow of things...

...these elements make memories.

However, one of the last things signal wants is to have the intimate and
utter integrity of the event halted at 1 am, just to have a group come in,
look around, and make sure everything is in place, and all documents are in
hand, and everyone is of age, even if this safety visit is for only a half
hour...

...the integrity would forever be lost, the memories would cease.

Since it was, and still is, our intention to bring cleveland what has not
been heard or seen for nearly a decade, I have decided to postpone "signal"
this saturday, cleveland ohio, for a very *brief* period of time...

...until important matters within cleveland become clearer to us.

Further details will be communicated within the next 48 hours...

...wait for the signal.

Thank you, and for any inconveniences, we apologize deeply.

darw_n

"create, demonstrate, toneshift..."

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Subject: Re: [mw] new to list

chuckie is my daddy, yo..!!




On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:38:22 -0500 "-THE bitch iySyS-"
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> -THE bitch iySyS-
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> : charles
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From mw-raves-return-15539-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 03:25:56 2001
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i thought it was a styling gel or something.


On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, shawne wrote:

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> what is rave?? is this a new genre??
>
> so out of the loop
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it's good feel well received.

HI TARA!

good night.


On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, green tara wrote:

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> chuckie is my daddy, yo..!!
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Subject: [mw] fountain of youth was Re: [mw] sexy rave girlies 

TekkgirIie@aol.com writes:

<< I plan on living forever...  and I plan of finding the fountain of 
youth... I 
 will search the world for it..alone.. or with my love.  >>

i have found the fountain of youth...and if any of you
have seen me...you know i speak truth, since i look
20 but am actually 10 years older...

it is so simple...

John 3

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak
that we do know, and testify that we have 
seen; and ye recieve not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye
believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of
heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven,
but he that came down from heaven, even the
Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the
wilderness, even so must the Son of man be
lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should
not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave 
his only begotten Son, that whosoever believ-
eth in him should not perish, but have ever-
lasting life

t
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Subject: [mw] thieveland 216 was Re: [mw] Anti-rave Flyers 

darwin@veriomail.com writes:

<< blahblahblah, "thieveland 216-in-that-mix-YO!!!'  blahblah... >>

thieveland 216 is (c) copyright SANOizm

SANO was quite the graff artist back in the day...he took the 
1997 IGAC contest (the best of the best for graff artists)

SANO also partnered with my painting professor at CWRU, 
Chris Pekoc to win the Adobe Photoshop Contest out on the 
west coast back in the day...the coveted award for graphic 
designers

here's some of his minor stuff during his graff days...
http://www.graffitiverite.com/igac-entries.htm

and the flyer he did for FA4...
http://www.undergroundpeace.org/page4.html

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stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< i thought it was more '95, when it was widely known
 all over the midwest that all the weird people came
 from cleveland. >>

'91 to '95 was when cleveland was at it's prime as a
source of creation (that's when my hey days were)

* devo sprouted from akron
* lady miss kier became dee-lite from parma
* tracy lords... left her hometown of steubenville and headed 
   west to become the original under-aged porn queen
* michael j. fox filmed "light of day" at the original dive
  bar...the euclid tavern
* trent reznor went to CIM there
* patty dragony designed the metallic costumes for the
  ministry concerts
* project x - the original east coast club kids did their 
  party at smart bar
* when wruw was thee station to listen to for underground 
   sounds
* and when metropolis was thee club to be at on sundays
  when scott forbush hosted "the church"...and alyssa 
   milano and mark decasseo filmed "double dragon" there
   ...mark later went on to do the tv show for "the crow:
   stairway to heaven:
* when every alternative, indie, punk, industrial, grunge,
  hardcore band out there played at either: the empire,
  the phantasy, blossom, the euclid tavern, or the grog
  shop
* when they chose cleveland for the site of the rock and roll
   hall of fame

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:48:10 -0600, jsn111 wrote:


>
>what the fuck is celestrial? ever heard of proofreading?

That's when you go to court on the moon.  ;)

	- joe


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From mw-raves-return-15545-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 05:34:00 2001
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Subject: Re: [mw] cleveland...a source of creation

cleveland gets the gas face.

mk

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Subject: [mw] favorite parties

Don't know if anyone cleared this up yet... but before Advanced Tricknology 
(Aug '98) there was a party in '97 that was simpled called Tricknology (as I 
recall)...  as for AT, that's on my list as one of the best parties I've 
ever been to...  alongside a couple of other Minnesota parties (Nowhere in 
Akeley - Oct '97 and Heavy Mental in Minneapolis - March '97)... also can't 
go wrong with the full-on insanity at WTW IV this past summer... or with God 
Told Me So in wherever the hell that is north of Milwaukee...

Even Furthur in 1996 will always make any list... first Furthur experience 
and because I went into it completely unaware of what it would be like it 
still holds some of my best memories and goes on record as being my first 
full-on Wisconsin experience...  the late summer Furthur in '99 was also 
pretty fabulous... especially the insanity of Meat and the Sunday afternoon 
liquor store hunt with Dica, .com, Plaslaiko and Tommie Sunshine... but you 
can't go wrong with that line-up....
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Subject: [mw] re: yellow

i wish i had the article of the study of the color most
conducive to love and found it to be yellow...i had fwd'ed
it to my private list awhile ago, but no longer have it saved
on my sent box

on a more rave-related note (a rarity on this list nowadaze)
anyone on this list (aside from jesse/darwin, because i know 
he's real) attend the color parties that patrick/phat-o threw
back in the day in the upstate new york area...blue...red
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baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< *cough*bullshit*cough* >>

the whore of babylon still does not believe?

ironic, it was you who did not believe when the seal
for 'aerial' was opened

than you shall have the beast...
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,96791,00.html

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: baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
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: << *cough*bullshit*cough* >>
:
: the whore of babylon still does not believe?
:

first...i am not the whore of babylon...pixie is...cant you at least keep
the titles you give people straight....second...i am about the furthest
thing you are going to find from a whore...trust me on this one

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Subject: [mw] alltomorrowsparties.co.uk (WAS:  [mw] NMWRR: Homelands 2001)


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To: "pixie" <stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com>
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>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:
>
> > waaaaaaaaay out of our region, but i was wondering if
> > anyone might have any help trying to find information
> > on this festival. i know they hold it in several
> > different countries...i'm looking for a website or
> > information on the one in England, i believe.
>
> here's a little something:
>
> http://www.nme.com/NME/External/News/News_Story/0,1004,13704,00.html
>
>
> the Orb will be there. ~drool.
>
>


Blah.... Heres the info on All Tomorrows Parties:

Before i cut and paste, Ill tell you that it is appx $145.00 american (100
GBP), and this includes the festival admission + a chalet. Basicly, you can
book your ticket in groups of either 4,5,6,7, or 8. When you book them, you
get a chalet that fits the size of your group. The chalets have a bed for
each person, your own bathroom/shower/fridge/stove/oven. All I know is even
bed & breakfasts in London cost appx $80 a night. and those BARELY sleep 2,
in the same bed. Also, the festival is about an hour southeast of London. I
cant seem to find flights for less than $450 round trip from Detroit as well
as chicago. That is with me flying out on the 4th, and returning on the
11th. If you find cheaper (and you investigate it!!) then let me know!
Thanks...


Oh.. and there may be a bunch of artists in the lineup whom youve never
heard of, so go HERE (
http://www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk/website/container.cfm?pageid=376 ) to
learn more about them... all are spectacular!

And some of the bands from last year are archived.

/me wishes he knew about this festival LAST year!! DOH!

On with our regularly scheduled paste:

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FOUNDATION AND ATP NEWSLETTER

Welcome to the new Foundation mailing list and we are here to give you
update info on ATP plus in this news letter details of the new TORTOISE LP
and forthcoming Foundation shows.

ATP NEW CONFIRMATIONS

Hey Now listen up because news just in kids is that Lambchop have confirmed
for an exclusive ATP performance.  After doing so well in the end of year
polls with their great album Nixon, they will be appearing for a strictly
one-off show at this years festival.  Other news is that Savath and Savalas
are unable to make it this year but will be replaced by Prefuse 73 who have
just signed to Warp.   Also Femi Kuti is unable to perform because his
schedule is moving to a later period but have no fear as we have replaced
him with Tony Allens Afro Beat who was the drummer with Fela Kuti and will
be equally as good, if not better?
All this  alongside DJ sets from Stereolab and Russell Haswell and a live
show from The Ex who have collaborated with Tortoise on their 'In their
Fishtank' series.

The confirmed line up so far is as follows

Atmosphere,
Autechre,
Boards Of Canada (exclusive) ,
Broadcast,
Calexico,
Cannibal Ox & Company Flow,
Derek Bailey,
ESG,
the Ex,
Lambchop (exclusive),
Mike Ladd,
Prefuse 73,
the Sea and Cake,
Sun Ra Arkestra,
Tara Key + Rick Rizzo,
Television (Exclusive & the original Marquee Moon Line-up)
Tortoise (exclusive),
Yo La Tengo

plus Tony Allens Afro Beat.

DJ sets from Mr Lif, Detroit Bachelor DeeJay Derek Plaslaiko (HEH... dont I
fucking WISH!), Stereolab, Russell Haswell plus more to be announced

MC for the event is Neil Hamburger

Tickets are available through our website along with all festival
information.  http://www.alltomorrowsparties.co.uk

NEWS ON TORTOISE

Also it would be really good to point out that Tortoise despite being
advertised to play at The Barbican on April 9th with Tom Ze are not
appearing as Tortoise they are simply Tom Ze's backing band and will be
performing Tom Ze material and NO tortoise material.  We will be announcing
more Tortoise dates after ATP but its all yet to be confirmed but ATP is
their only confirmed date at this point.  The Tom Ze show will no doubt be
very special but don't expect Djed on April 9th.

TORTOISE NEW LP DETAILS

tortoise - standards
release date  19th February on LP and CD. on Warp/Thrill Jockey Records

Chicago's master sound manipulators return with their fourth full
length album.
musically "standards" is perhaps their most concise statement to
purpose this far, the tunes are direct and immediate yet they maintain
the exploratory edge that has always characterised the group's output.

FORTHCOMING FOUNDATION CONCERTS

Arab Strap - London The Scala - February 26 - Tickets are £11.00 available
from 0207-403-3331
Arab Strap - Manchester - Planet K - February 27 - Tickets are £10.00
available from 0161-832-1111
The Sea and Cake + Pram - London The Underworld - February 28 - Tickets are
£9.00 available from 0207-403-3331


That's it for now

BH








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baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
 
 << .i am about the furthest
  thing you are going to find from a whore >>
 
 well you are the evil one that posted about dealers
 'packin'...you along with haters like shawne and michael 
 and the idiots who posts about 'spot da narc' and 'anti-rave 
 flyers by cops' is what is truly ruining the scene...when idiots 
 like this represent the scene, than new kids go...ohhhh we're 
 supposed to talk mad bullshit and take mad drugs here and 
 become dealers who pack guns!...brilliant!...not!...this is exactly 
 what the media wanted to stereotype upon us to begin with!!...
 and every true head knows this scene was founded by DJ's and 
 NOT drug dealers!!...which are the true POSERS that are killing
 our scene for their selfish and greedy means!!...
 
 so by definition, you represent an anti-christ figure
 to the scene...whore of babylon...not implying that
 you are a whore...but from the abominations that you
 spew from your blasphemous mouth... 

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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: i want you to listen...

first i have spoke nothing that is not the truth...dealers do carry
guns...maybe not a good thing but it is the truth and i dont need your
all-mightly all-knowing ass to tell me what the scene is about...trust me i
am well aware...and i can assure you i in no way represent any sort of an
anti-christ figure...quite far from it actually...dont assume to know me or
what i am about by snide remark filled posts i place here, that is only one
aspect of my truely twisted persona :-)

-THE bitch iySyS-

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thing's can't get any worse." - Perry Farrell



: baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
:
:  << .i am about the furthest
:   thing you are going to find from a whore >>
:
:  well you are the evil one that posted about dealers
:  'packin'...you along with haters like shawne and michael
:  and the idiots who posts about 'spot da narc' and 'anti-rave
:  flyers by cops' is what is truly ruining the scene...when idiots
:  like this represent the scene, than new kids go...ohhhh we're
:  supposed to talk mad bullshit and take mad drugs here and
:  become dealers who pack guns!...brilliant!...not!...this is exactly
:  what the media wanted to stereotype upon us to begin with!!...
:  and every true head knows this scene was founded by DJ's and
:  NOT drug dealers!!...which are the true POSERS that are killing
:  our scene for their selfish and greedy means!!...
:
:  so by definition, you represent an anti-christ figure
:  to the scene...whore of babylon...not implying that
:  you are a whore...but from the abominations that you
:  spew from your blasphemous mouth...
:
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Son316east@aol.com writes:

<< and every true head knows this scene was founded by DJ's and 
  NOT drug dealers!!...which are the true POSERS that are killing
  our scene for their selfish and greedy means!!... >>

i have already posted about how it was the US Army
Chemical Center that was the true source of drugs...
only thing different now is they have foreign labs and
workers so they don't get blown up for a bad mix and
still reap all the profits...

don't believe the posers on here kids...all they're trying
to do is make the scene look bad by implying that we're
all gun packin drug dealers...when the true source of drugs
was the US Government all along!!...who never gave a 
shit about the music or the kids!!

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here check this...

http://www.parascope.com/mx/matrix07.htm

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/me imagines this literally.

thank you :)

-t

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> I have only been with one girl not very many times.  It's 
> time to change
> that within the next year or so.  I figure one hook-up/months 
> will up the
> number to current day standards.
one a month!? ha!
i guess if yer just startin out...
but to be a real player you need to name yoh bitches after the day of the
week just to keep em straight

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> > im anti-slut yes
> > im not anti-sex, unless its slut-sex
> > anti-hooking up, not unless its slut-hooking up
> 
> Just to clear things up, define slut?
someone who is slutty

> I should be out of this job in afew weeks.
well now what are you gonna do?
besides mac hoes and sheeit

any government buildings you plan on blowing up?

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you back on days again?!?

finally, i can send email instead of being stuck working!
-t

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From mw-raves-return-15560-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 13:22:45 2001
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> > > packin my HK .40 compact with NightSights.
> > neat
> >  i hope you shoot lots of people one day
> > 
> 
> THe only person I ever had my gun out on was a 15 year old 
> girl who kicked
> in my parents back door.  She woke me up (I sleep days usually) and I
> foudn her stealing meds from the kitchen.  I didn't shoot her, I know
> restraint, but she didn't bold till the gun made it into her line of
> sight.  Then she bolted out the frong door.  No one was hurt, 
> 99.5% of my
> house was not trashed, she didn't come after me the crowbar 
> she had, the
> cops busted her all caues of my gun.  She is bi-polar or psychotic, I
> really don't know what she would have done if she didn't see 
> my gun.  For
> this reason I got rubber bullets for my shotgun.  Better to 
> keep someone
> at bay than have to shoot them.  Not worth it.


good thing you had a nightsight!

do you keep grenades at your home too?
in case witnesses stop by?
of the jehova kind

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From mw-raves-return-15561-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 13:23:36 2001
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> > but no really people, this is my friend charles no
> > one is allowed to take
> > him through the normal "mw-raves initiation"
> 
> that would have been a nice gesture, except that now
> you've made it proof-positive that he'll be taken out
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> to happy hardcore through earbuds jammed into his nose
> for being associated with you.
duh
thats what i was goin for

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> > hi.
> > 
> > i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself.
> > 
> > i like rave and drum and bass and hope i can chat it
> > up with some ravers.
> > 
> > peace,
> > charles
> 
> LOOK!!! =D
> 
> guess who that is, micah!!
> 
> C'MON! GUESS!! =D
its your favorite pixie
i know
you dont really love me
those letters and pictures and dead animals you leave are all an act

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From mw-raves-return-15563-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 13:24:40 2001
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why is there a happy hardcore version of dueling banjoes?

i wanted a banjo for x-mas,
-t

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> that would have been a nice gesture, except that now
> you've made it proof-positive that he'll be taken out
> back and whooped soundly while being forced to listen
> to happy hardcore through earbuds jammed into his nose
> for being associated with you.
duh
thats what i was goin for

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> but I think it's a conspiracy...Micah snuck some beans into 
> my sushi. I
> think he's part of the illuminati..his name backwards is 
> hacim and well, we
> all know what that means...
i do not exist

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> wrong kinga girls has not helped my attitude.  ANy girls out there who
> have only slept with say 3 guys?  Any at all?  Oh yea, you at 
> least have
> to be decent looking, avg to a littl above avg, boobs can be whatever.
> ANy girls on the list fit this?  Anyone girls anywhere?  I 
girls like this exist
they are too good for you
they are called "selective"
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> > i think he was on in the past
> > and he knows some of you fuckers
> > he's pixies favorite...
> 
> /me nods furiously.
> 
> he's way more fun than those other two fuckers he
> hangs out with.
correction
he's way more fun than that other fucker he hangs out with
if you wanna hear it you can, but privately

but yes charles is cooler than me
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> : > he's pixies favorite...
> : 
> : /me nods furiously.
> : 
> : he's way more fun than those other two fuckers he
> : hangs out with.
> 
> for the record he is NOT my favorite....micah is 
REALLY!?


awww...i feel soo....loved right now...i could....cry.
awesome, that makes my day and stinkie pixie can go to stinkie pixie land
with charles

me and amanda are gonna just be chillin at 200bpm

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Entropy and True Productions present:

LOS DIABLOS II
The second excursion into hardcore, gabber, and jungle and drum n bass
music.

This time we are getting deeper, darker, happier, harder, and more
diverse...be prepared.

with DJs:

Hardcore and Gabber Room:

ROB GEE  - Gabber *First Massachusettes appearance*
(adam recordings, natas, NYC)
Rob is the definition of gabber.  He has brought the hardest dance music to
the most remote corners of the world, and back again.  He has performed at
the Thunderdome parties in Holland, the MIDEM festivals in France, and the
legendary Love Parade in Berlin, where he played to over 1 million people. 
He has released over 50 tunes in the past decade, with his largest track
selling 35,000 copies and holding a #1 spot on Belgian, Dutch, and German
music television.  He'll be sure to be performing tracks from his upcoming
album "Vitamin Gee", so don't sleep! http://www.adamrecordings.com

JUSTRICH - UK Happy Hardcore *First Northeast appearance!!!*
(bonkers records, go mental records, winnipeg, canada)
Justrich is one of Canada's premiere hardcore DJs, and has forthcoming
releases on Go Mental and Bonkers, working alongside names such as Energy,
Sharky, and K-Komplex.  He has played all over Winnipeg and Manitoba, as
well as frequent gigs in Toronto, Nova Scotia, and the Northern Midwest. 
His musical roots partially lie in hip-hop, which shines through in his
mixes and style.  Welcome another hardcore soldier to New England; I'm sure
you will be delighted!  http://www.justrich.com

MUNDO - Old Skool Hardcore *First Northeast appearance!!!*
(valence entertainment, wikiddrama records, dallas, TX)
A 10 year veteran of the decks, Mundo has been following hardcore,
jungle/dnb, and 2-step since each one started.  He'll be taking the reigns
of the old skool tonight and playing a 1990-1993 UK Hardcore set: the music
that started it all.  Don't sleep! 
http://www.valence2000.com/artists/mundo.shtml

ENTROPY - Dark Breakbeat Hardcore
(bhpc, cheesestep recordings, n.e. hardcore, boston)
http://www.djentropy.com

SONIK - Trancecore
(volume, n.e. hardcore, ri)
Evan can usually be heard spreading his happy hardcore vibes thoughout New
England, but tonite we have him doing his other love: trancecore.  A
derivative of UK happy hardcore and hard German trance, trancecore is a
form of hardcore that is way too often overlooked at proper hardcore
events.  Come and be educated on the dark, melodic, and twisting sounds of
this rarely exposed form of music.  
http://www.ne-hardcore.com, http://www.volumeproductions.com

STRIDER - UK Happy Hardcore
(n.e. hardcore, deleteyourself, ma)
Bryan is a member of the next crop of hardcore DJs in New England.  His
talent and love for the music shines through in every set he plays.  His
style is smooth, uplifting, and happy, with plenty of vocals.  Come see
Bryan start his journey as a wonderful DJ. http://www.djstrider.com

MEGRIM - Gabber
(beyond insanity, boston)
A New England gabber up and comer, with a sick and diverse style.


Jungle/DNB room:

RAY KEITH - Jungle/DNB *First New England appearance*
(ufo,dread,movement,metalheadz,vrecordings,penny black, uk)
This oldskool warrior is one of the epitomes of the underground breakbeat
scene... He has been a dedicated leader since the early 90's hardcore days,
and has progressed to become one of today's most acclaimed Drum n' Bass
producers, as well as one of 
the most in-demand DJ's in the World. He has produced tracks on almost of
all 
of the Major UK Dn'B labels, and has just recently remixed "Blue Skies" for
Tori Amos.  He is one of the most respected DJ's in the dnb scene and he'll
be sure to have many plates up his sleeves for us tonight at Los Diablos 2!
Come see a legend at work.

J-SMOOTH - Jungle/DNB
(gfs, f-111 records, philly)
This kid is recognized as one of the most talented Stateside Junglists
around. He has achieved this through hard work and amazing production on
labels such as GFS and F-111; as well as his ability to rock a crowd.
Whether it be Jump up, jazz step, 
hardstep or hiphop; J will be sure to represent the US dnb scene proper
with his 
super selections and nasty cuttin'.. Be sure not to miss this set from a
rising star.

DJ NATTY  - Ragga Jungle/Dancehall DNB *First appearance in the
Northeast!!!*
(cosmic breaks recordings, FiyaWoka records, tin lung klan, chicago)
Timm is one of the few strictly ragga DJ's in the WORLD, and has been at it
since it's inception.  He has been pushing the sound though his crew:
Cosmic Breaks, and his new label: FiyaWoka Records, which is dedicated to
all producers in the ragga vein.  He helps run 3 weeklies in the Chicago
area, as well as expecting his first child on March 4th!  He will also be
turning 30 the night of Los Diablos II, so make sure to give him a warm New
England welcome and Happy Birthday!  http://www.cosmicbreaks.com

J FUSE - Jungle/DNB
(powersurge productions, ma)
Jay is a true purveyor of the jungle/dnb underground, and can be caught
playing warehouse jams and small parties throughout the Boston area.  It is
a pleasure to bring him out to Los Diablos II, and I'm sure you will love
his style of rough, dark, and solid jungle/dnb.

*tag team*

SILENI - Jungle/DNB
(brand nu bass, boston)
Chris is part of a crew known for it's forward-thinking ideas and music,
always staying ahead of the game, while staying true to its roots.  His
music is very diverse, and his skills are rock-solid, and he will be sure
to take you on a journey through the sounds of jungle and drum n bass music.

CAEZAR - Jungle/DNB
(true, digital domain,NY)
You may have caught him at True Luck, if so you know he is one of NYC's
finest and most talented DJ's.  He will be tagging with good ol' Jeff Gil-T
this evening.  :)
*tag team*

GIL-T
(true prod, ma)
Jeff is in a constant state of educating, through any means neccessary, and
behind the tables is no different.  Solid mixing and diverse tunes will
glide you through the end of the party.

9pm-6am
http://www.truecrew.com
http://www.djentropy.com

More info to follow.

-Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
(bhpc, cheesestep recordings, n.e. hardcore, the new sample revolution,
boston)
ian@djentropy.com
http://www.djentropy.com
http://www.ne-hardcore.com
"There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
"Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.  Educate the
narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine - Genacide II




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> why is there a happy hardcore version of dueling banjoes?
why is there happy hardcore?

> i wanted a banjo for x-mas,
i do have dueling banjos on vinyl

its hot

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> you back on days again?!?
ahhh yeah baby you know it
at the moment at least 
those pigfuckers at eds put me back on days for the moment, so im confused
as anyone
not only am i on days and amped for some mailing list shit but...im sleep
deprived

feel the music

> finally, i can send email instead of being stuck working!
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i sorta know how you feel, i woke up tday at 4am and couldn't sleep, i was 3
hours early for "work".

i can't really call it work, ummm, cuz i'm here talking to you (and a cast
of thousands - well, hundreds).

-t

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im confused
as anyone
not only am i on days and amped for some mailing list shit but...im sleep
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> i sorta know how you feel, i woke up tday at 4am and couldn't 
> sleep, i was 3
> hours early for "work".
work is a funny word.
it just SOUNDS boring.
how fitting

> i can't really call it work, ummm, cuz i'm here talking to 
> you (and a cast
> of thousands - well, hundreds).
i got a book mailed to me at work from eds yesterday...
the title should be enough,
 "Action urgency excellence"
seizing leadership in the digital economy

i hate digital economy cos i dont quite know what it is

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From mw-raves-return-15573-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 13:53:57 2001
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the digital economy, i think, has something to do with selling your fingers.
or buying them.  maybe trading them.  the new york finger exchange.

i've got a finger for ya,
-t

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i got a book mailed to me at work from eds yesterday...
the title should be enough,
 "Action urgency excellence"
seizing leadership in the digital economy

i hate digital economy cos i dont quite know what it is

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From mw-raves-return-15574-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 13:55:11 2001
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ok, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  i guess i will be doing some experiments.

-t

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it may work, it does with peyote and mushrooms. i've tried swapping saliva
with rollers just to see if i could get anything but that don't work. I just
got AIDS instead...

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YAH HEY WELL YAH HEY WELL HAY I HEARD IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE THAT IS LIKE 
ROLLIN YAH IF YOU DRINK THEIR PISS YO YOU CAN ROLL FOR FREE OFF OF THEIR 
PISS COS THAT IS WHERE IT "GOES".

YAH WELL HEY THAT'S JUST WHAT I HEARD PEACE OUT YO

mskitzo

>how about just using real pee. I mean what the hell it's only h2o, sodium,
>and a few other waste elements. actually i've heard that for some aliments,
>drinking pee is a cure.

__________

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> ok, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  i guess i will be doing some experiments.
tony.
if you eat peyote and pee in a gelcap i'll be your first test subject
.<--thats a period

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> the digital economy, i think, has something to do with 
> selling your fingers.
> or buying them.  maybe trading them.  the new york finger exchange.
my ass

i think you made that up

> i've got a finger for ya,
my ass

wait.
hmm.

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> for the record he is NOT my favorite....micah is 

yeah but you're so easily amused.

pixie

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> within that 2 year span.  After that, everyone
> turned weird and started
> skateboarding and painting pentagrams on the
> turntables...

that's not weird...

;]
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From mw-raves-return-15579-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 14:26:59 2001
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hmm...if it's postponed far enough into the future, i
may yet be able to go then. i'd love to see some of my
old pb-cle friends.

guess we'll wait and see =]
pixie

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> postponed <27 : jan : 2001> postponed


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> > for the record he is NOT my favorite....micah is 
> 
> yeah but you're so easily amused.
speaking of being easily amused
i am throwing monkey dung at kids at the zoo as we speak...to find out how
go to www.romp.com and play monkeybone the game
its hot

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--- -THE bitch iySyS- <baronessk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> : baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
> :
> : << *cough*bullshit*cough* >>
> :
> : the whore of babylon still does not believe?

stevie.

the one and only, over here.

i mean, i'm almost hurt! we've had this going on now
for almost 2 years??! and you can't even remember your
pet name for me?? are you seeing someone else??

sweetie, darling, i never believed in you. i did
appreciate your attempt at sanity though...your effort
actually lifted this enourmous feeling of pity i have
for you for about 10 seconds. of course, everyone else
had to ruin it for you by replying and thus drawing
out the demon that still eats away at your soul. the
devil! the devil!

oh wait, that's one of my heads. get back here!

toodle (a.k.a. sometimes i even scare myself)
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From mw-raves-return-15582-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 14:36:12 2001
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derek always knows how to turn me on ;]
pixie

> Autechre
> Boards Of Canada (exclusive)
> Yo La Tengo
> Stereolab


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From mw-raves-return-15583-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 14:36:15 2001
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> hmm...if it's postponed far enough into the future, i
> may yet be able to go then. i'd love to see some of my
> old pb-cle friends.
> 
> guess we'll wait and see =]
> pixie
> 
> --- darw_n <darwin@veriomail.com> wrote:
> > postponed <27 : jan : 2001> postponed


i wanna throw a party called postponed
thatd be dope dawg

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From mw-raves-return-15584-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 14:37:37 2001
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persecuted for speaking the truth by the man stevie t.

ain't THAT a bitch ;]
pixie

--- -THE bitch iySyS- <baronessk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> first i have spoke nothing that is not the
> truth...dealers do carry
> guns...maybe not a good thing but it is the truth
> and i dont need your
> all-mightly all-knowing ass to tell me what the
> scene is about...trust me i
> am well aware...and i can assure you i in no way
> represent any sort of an
> anti-christ figure...quite far from it
> actually...dont assume to know me or
> what i am about by snide remark filled posts i place
> here, that is only one
> aspect of my truely twisted persona :-)
> 
> -THE bitch iySyS-
> 
> "There's a kind of freedom in being completely
> screwed up because you know
> thing's can't get any worse." - Perry Farrell
> 
> 
> 
> : baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
> :
> :  << .i am about the furthest
> :   thing you are going to find from a whore >>
> :
> :  well you are the evil one that posted about
> dealers
> :  'packin'...you along with haters like shawne and
> michael
> :  and the idiots who posts about 'spot da narc' and
> 'anti-rave
> :  flyers by cops' is what is truly ruining the
> scene...when idiots
> :  like this represent the scene, than new kids
> go...ohhhh we're
> :  supposed to talk mad bullshit and take mad drugs
> here and
> :  become dealers who pack
> guns!...brilliant!...not!...this is exactly
> :  what the media wanted to stereotype upon us to
> begin with!!...
> :  and every true head knows this scene was founded
> by DJ's and
> :  NOT drug dealers!!...which are the true POSERS
> that are killing
> :  our scene for their selfish and greedy means!!...
> :
> :  so by definition, you represent an anti-christ
> figure
> :  to the scene...whore of babylon...not implying
> that
> :  you are a whore...but from the abominations that
> you
> :  spew from your blasphemous mouth...
> :
> :
>
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> stinkie pixie can go
> to stinkie pixie land

I WASHED MY ASS LAST NIGHT!

IT DOESN"T STINK ANYMORE!



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> > stinkie pixie can go
> > to stinkie pixie land
> 
> I WASHED MY ASS LAST NIGHT!
> 
> IT DOESN"T STINK ANYMORE!
i was gonna say something about how thankful i was that maybe next time
i wouldn't have to loufa my dick after...

but then i realized
im above that

loufa lou


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> i was gonna say something about how thankful i was that maybe next time
> i wouldn't have to loufa my dick after...
> 
> but then i realized
> im above that
> 
> loufa lou

that's "loofah."

chris

at least i think it is!


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From mw-raves-return-15588-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 15:13:15 2001
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> > loufa lou
> 
> that's "loofah."
> 
> chris
> 
> at least i think it is!
sorry 

"loofah." lou


ps i have never done pixie in the butt, that was for shock value so no
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> ps i have never done pixie in the butt, that was for shock value so no
> mw-rumour spreading

that's not what i heard!

couldn't come up with a better response,

chris


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From mw-raves-return-15590-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 15:22:08 2001
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well great, what the hell are we gonna talk about now?

-t

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> > ps i have never done pixie in the butt, that was for shock 
> value so no
> > mw-rumour spreading
> 
> that's not what i heard!
> 
> couldn't come up with a better response,
shhhh!

she did me in the butt!

i feel your pain, that was the best i could do

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    FACP  presents   EAT SWISS  January 27th Columbus, Oh.

                    With Special Guests, from Just Plain Positive
                     from Philadelphia, PA.
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                    Hen Loc
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                        Bringing you the styles of : trace tech, house 
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            Local DJs include: 
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> well great, what the hell are we gonna talk about now?
oh yeah

c'mon micah take one for the team..

i did pixie in the butt and she called me beatrice

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> ps i have never done pixie in the butt, that was for
> shock value so no
> mw-rumour spreading

oh yeah THAT'S gonna work.

micah did my mom in the ear.
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> i did pixie in the butt and she called me beatrice

you guys have no idea just how funny i'm really
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> > i did pixie in the butt and she called me beatrice
> 
> you guys have no idea just how funny i'm really
> finding all this.
> 
> DUDE!
YOU SCOFF AT THE IDEA OF YOUR BUTT BEING INVADED BY CAPTAIN BEATRICE!?

FOOL YOU WILL DIE! DIE DIE DIE!

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From mw-raves-return-15597-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 16:04:04 2001
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You know amanda, since Nathan, Chad, and I are going to be in Columbus the
first weekend of March for the Gracie Family Jiu-Jitsu Championships
(especially since Nathan is competing in it now) maybe we'll have to visit
all the strip-joints that Stevie is supposedly the pimp of and show him why
there is no need for most of us to carry weapons.

the corruptor of the whore of babylon
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> first i have spoke nothing that is not the truth...dealers do carry
> guns...maybe not a good thing but it is the truth and i dont need your
> all-mightly all-knowing ass to tell me what the scene is about...trust me
i
> am well aware...and i can assure you i in no way represent any sort of an
> anti-christ figure...quite far from it actually...dont assume to know me
or
> what i am about by snide remark filled posts i place here, that is only
one
> aspect of my truely twisted persona :-)
>
> -THE bitch iySyS-
>
> "There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed up because you know
> thing's can't get any worse." - Perry Farrell
>
>
>
> : baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
> :
> :  << .i am about the furthest
> :   thing you are going to find from a whore >>
> :
> :  well you are the evil one that posted about dealers
> :  'packin'...you along with haters like shawne and michael
> :  and the idiots who posts about 'spot da narc' and 'anti-rave
> :  flyers by cops' is what is truly ruining the scene...when idiots
> :  like this represent the scene, than new kids go...ohhhh we're
> :  supposed to talk mad bullshit and take mad drugs here and
> :  become dealers who pack guns!...brilliant!...not!...this is exactly
> :  what the media wanted to stereotype upon us to begin with!!...
> :  and every true head knows this scene was founded by DJ's and
> :  NOT drug dealers!!...which are the true POSERS that are killing
> :  our scene for their selfish and greedy means!!...
> :
> :  so by definition, you represent an anti-christ figure
> :  to the scene...whore of babylon...not implying that
> :  you are a whore...but from the abominations that you
> :  spew from your blasphemous mouth...
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> micah did my mom in the ear.
well yanno with size issues and things it was more of doing her AT the ear
or ON the ear
the first time was painful...MAY THE GODS CURSE MIRACLE EAR
after that it was a breeze


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I'll leave that one alone.....toooooo easy of a shot there

zipper mouth
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> > stinkie pixie can go
> > to stinkie pixie land
> 
> I WASHED MY ASS LAST NIGHT!
> 
> IT DOESN"T STINK ANYMORE!
> 
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> the corruptor of the whore of babylon

shawne knows all kindsa new games i never played
before ;D

makin a list of the good strip joints in columbus,
(whether or not i worked at them is not necessarily
criteria)
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From mw-raves-return-15601-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 16:13:32 2001
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Actually...I scoff at the idea. That is unless you want Captain Beatrice
sitting in a jar in my medicine cabinet. Micah, you should meet up with us
in Columbus in March, not only is there the Gracie family Championship but
its supposed to be a huge martial arts expo.

shawne
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> > > i did pixie in the butt and she called me beatrice
> >
> > you guys have no idea just how funny i'm really
> > finding all this.
> >
> > DUDE!
> YOU SCOFF AT THE IDEA OF YOUR BUTT BEING INVADED BY CAPTAIN BEATRICE!?
>
> FOOL YOU WILL DIE! DIE DIE DIE!
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> but yes charles is cooler than me
> fucker

yea but that means you're hotter than me micah.

why you get all the girls and i get all the "friends"

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From mw-raves-return-15603-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 16:23:46 2001
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> Actually...I scoff at the idea. That is unless you want 
> Captain Beatrice
> sitting in a jar in my medicine cabinet. Micah, you should 
> meet up with us
> in Columbus in March, not only is there the Gracie family 
> Championship but
> its supposed to be a huge martial arts expo.
oh really?
well i might do that, it sounds like fun.
keep me informed, especially if its gonna involve harassing stevie

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From mw-raves-return-15604-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 16:25:51 2001
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> > but yes charles is cooler than me
> > fucker
> 
> yea but that means you're hotter than me micah.
its captain beatrice not me...
or its my evil twin mocha

> why you get all the girls and i get all the "friends"
awww jyeah

> bastard.
yeah but yer cooler!
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--- shawne <shawne@zoomtown.com> wrote:
> Actually...I scoff at the idea. That is unless you
> want Captain Beatrice
> sitting in a jar in my medicine cabinet. 

awww! my sweetie loves me so much, he's got my back,
and my "back!"

*snicker* =*~_~*= love you darlin
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At 03:12 AM 1/26/2001 -0500, Son316east@aol.com wrote:
>ruining the scene

>represent the scene

>  killing our scene

what the hell are you talking about?  the rave scene is already dead, for 
all intents and purposes.

mk

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From mw-raves-return-15607-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 16:42:21 2001
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> oh and im ignoring the castration comment.

and doing a very good job, i might add! =D

seriously though, i bet it would be fun to have
micah's penis in a jar in the medicine cabinet. we
could dress it up for holidays, and take it on
vacations with us, show it the sights, you know. let
reba play with it, run around the house with it in her
teeth. it might make a nice cocktail party centerpiece
too! for the obvious reasons, of course.

or just take it to parties and set up a booth that
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then we'd have to deck it out in candy, and that's
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>ever see deliverance?

http://www.squeallikeapig.com/

mk
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From mw-raves-return-15609-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 16:42:40 2001
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hey Dylan  Mr Bob is looking for your addy... here is
his incase you dont have it anymore...
monsieurbob@aol.com   I told him I would have you
contact him !!! 

ALPha "your friendly neighborhood switchboard operator"

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> awww! my sweetie loves me so much, he's got my back,
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    Whoa, dude finally cracked. This is why I don't want people like him
carrying guns! =]

Matt Murphy
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> The infamous grammer attack!!!  My lack of high speed connection makes me
> grammer bad.  It's so damn slow at 14.4K.

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> > oh and im ignoring the castration comment.
> 
> and doing a very good job, i might add! =D
thanks, i've been practicing

> seriously though, i bet it would be fun to have
> micah's penis in a jar in the medicine cabinet. we
> could dress it up for holidays, and take it on
> vacations with us, show it the sights, you know. let
> reba play with it, run around the house with it in her
> teeth. it might make a nice cocktail party centerpiece
> too! for the obvious reasons, of course.
uhh yeah
lots of fun
great fun
can't wait
but REALLY now...wouldn't it be SO MUCH more fun with someone elses penis?
like anyone elses penis but mine?

this does remind me tho, once heather and i were watching some weird
publicaccess chicago thing
about a guy that decorates stuffed turkey heads
like dresses them up as soldiers and nurses and weird stuff like that

> or just take it to parties and set up a booth that
> says "photo op with micah's penis! only 12 cents!" but
> then we'd have to deck it out in candy, and that's
> just wrong.
ah who DOESN'T have a picture with muh penis?

and only 12 cents? c'mon i'd pay a dollar for a photo op with my penis


AND PLEASE NO CANDY ON THE COCK

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From mw-raves-return-15613-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 17:31:49 2001
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c'mon micah, you could post it on my site...

we could make a custom ad banner for you

-t

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> or just take it to parties and set up a booth that
> says "photo op with micah's penis! only 12 cents!" but
> then we'd have to deck it out in candy, and that's
> just wrong.
ah who DOESN'T have a picture with muh penis?

and only 12 cents? c'mon i'd pay a dollar for a photo op with my penis


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> > awww! my sweetie loves me so much, he's got my back,
> > and my...
> 
> i hate you all.
> 
> nimrod

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>micah did my mom in the ear.

aural sex innit?

strap one on and get to work,
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> c'mon micah, you could post it on my site...
> 
> we could make a custom ad banner for you
so what you are telling me here is that
if i deck my penis out in candykid attire i would get a pic on your site AND
a custom ad banner?
i can see it now...
"micahscock.com"
and i could decorate it for all kinds of seasons just like those damn duck
statues people have outside their houses...

the gears are a turnin

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> if i deck my penis out in candykid attire i would get a pic on your site AND
> a custom ad banner?

http://www.atomly.com/random/ben008.jpg what?

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From mw-raves-return-15618-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 17:41:10 2001
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>maybe we'll have to visit
>all the strip-joints that Stevie is supposedly the pimp of and show him why
>there is no need for most of us to carry weapons

i must not have been subbed when he made those claims.  but i'm pretty sure 
that at some point in my columbus daze, i would have seen stevie out at one 
of the strip joints if he was such a pimp of them.  i never did.  maybe he 
goes to the ghetto ones like that one by the airport and the one that's in 
the old storefornt.  ewwwww.

can a nigga get a table dance?
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From mw-raves-return-15619-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 17:43:07 2001
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/me likes just about anything that's in an old store front.

i lived in a store front for a while back in lacrosse!  woot!
-t

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maybe he 
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From mw-raves-return-15620-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 17:43:50 2001
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> aural sex innit?

erg! no matter what i just cant seem to hide from english slang.

eh m 8 sabbatical ellections innit.

easy. <-- see.

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From mw-raves-return-15621-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 17:43:50 2001
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someone else post it, i'm laughing too hard.

no pun,
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 12:39:02PM -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
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> http://www.atomly.com/random/ben008.jpg what?
dear god why do i click links on mw at work?

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From mw-raves-return-15624-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 17:47:41 2001
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> its captain beatrice not me...
> or its my evil twin mocha
now that sounds like a banana split toppping there.

> yeah but yer cooler!
> COOLER!
brrrrr.

> oh well, can't have it all...
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> > http://www.atomly.com/random/ben008.jpg what?
> dear god why do i click links on mw at work?

cos you hate your job and trying to get fired?

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> now that sounds like a banana split toppping there.
i got yer banana split right here buddy

mocha is my evil twin, this is not disputed...he is left handed and
untrustworthy

> > oh well, can't have it all...
> well if we can't have it all may be we can everything instead.
sounds like a brittany spears song to me

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>i can see it now...
>"micahscock.com"

i think the obvious choice is http://come.to/micahscock

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> > > http://www.atomly.com/random/ben008.jpg what?
> > dear god why do i click links on mw at work?
> 
> cos you hate your job and trying to get fired?
> 
> well that's my excuse
works for me too
im really telling myself if i can get fired it will provide the last
necessary
catalyst for me to do something i actually want to be doing
i guess....

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> i got yer banana split right here buddy
well give it to me sundae. (looks even dumber typed out)

> mocha is my evil twin, this is not disputed...he is left handed and
> untrustworthy
left handed? how the hell do you beat off if you're left handed, no wonder
he's untrustworthy.

> > > oh well, can't have it all...
> > well if we can't have it all may be we can everything instead.
> sounds like a brittany spears song to me
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From mw-raves-return-15630-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:12:08 2001
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>i can see it now...
>"micahscock.com"

i think the obvious choice is http://come.to/micahscock

mk
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From mw-raves-return-15631-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:15:51 2001
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> > i got yer banana split right here buddy
> well give it to me sundae. (looks even dumber typed out)
then i wont say it out loud thats for sure!

> > mocha is my evil twin, this is not disputed...he is left handed and
> > untrustworthy
> left handed? how the hell do you beat off if you're left 
> handed, no wonder
> he's untrustworthy.
mocha doesnt need to beat off...unless you mean beating them off with a
stick

> > > > oh well, can't have it all...
> > > well if we can't have it all may be we can everything instead.
> > sounds like a brittany spears song to me
> it is, in fact i have the aphrodite remix!
BWWOOORORWWWOOOOM

thats my jumpup bassline

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From mw-raves-return-15632-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:33:11 2001
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Hi List,

    My name is Gabriel. Right now I live in San Jose CA.
I'll be moving to Duluth Mn in a month or two hopefully
and was wondering if there was any kind of nightclub or rave
scene in the area. I Dj and produce all forms house, but I am
really into tech-house. I hope there will be places for me to
play rekkids and listen to dope beats. Can anybody give me some
input besides don't go to Duluth?

Peace,
Gabriel


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From mw-raves-return-15633-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:34:41 2001
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> i think the obvious choice is http://come.to/micahscock
i'll take care of that...
speaking of cocks
i took tony's suggestion and spent the last 5 minutes making an ad banner
out of 
atomly's lovely raverporn image

soon as i find some damn freeplace to put it up i will do so.

aww yeah its lowtech but it may turn someone on

(sorry the image isn't yet of my own candied-cock...better luck next time
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From mw-raves-return-15634-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:37:45 2001
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    I feel for you, but check out www.mnvibe.com for info on duluth
happenings.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

>     My name is Gabriel. Right now I live in San Jose CA.
> I'll be moving to Duluth Mn in a month or two hopefully
> and was wondering if there was any kind of nightclub or rave
> scene in the area. I Dj and produce all forms house, but I am
> really into tech-house. I hope there will be places for me to
> play rekkids and listen to dope beats. Can anybody give me some
> input besides don't go to Duluth?



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From mw-raves-return-15635-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:38:22 2001
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this is wrong on so many levels.

mk

At 10:32 AM 1/26/2001 -0800, Gabriel Hylander wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>     My name is Gabriel. Right now I live in San Jose CA.
>I'll be moving to Duluth Mn in a month or two hopefully
>and was wondering if there was any kind of nightclub or rave
>scene in the area. I Dj and produce all forms house, but I am
>really into tech-house. I hope there will be places for me to
>play rekkids and listen to dope beats. Can anybody give me some
>input besides don't go to Duluth?
>
>Peace,
>Gabriel
>
>
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From mw-raves-return-15636-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 18:40:34 2001
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Subject: [mw] Cincinnati

Does anyone else notice that there is rarely ever a party in Cincinnati (or
Dayton since most Cincy parties are there)  that is under $20 to get into?
I enjoy some of the bigger parties and all, but there hasn't been a small
(by that I mean 10 or 15 bucks a pop max and a maximum capacity of around
500-750 peeps) party in this city in quite some time.  There was one in
December, but we all know who threw that and well, lets just say, he isn't
too popular amongst the other promoters in the area, that and the fact that
it was busted before 2am.  Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there and
see what everyone else thinks.



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i have so many good ideas i need to get snatched up by a dot-com. - then i
can be poor and live in silicon valley.

lowtech porn, i love it!  when do we get to see it?
-t

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i'll take care of that...
speaking of cocks
i took tony's suggestion and spent the last 5 minutes making an ad banner
out of 
atomly's lovely raverporn image

soon as i find some damn freeplace to put it up i will do so.

aww yeah its lowtech but it may turn someone on

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The NEXT Century
 
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Doors Open at 10:00
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>From the North (Cincy, Dayton, Columbus)
Take I75 south till it joins with I64
Take Exit 115, the Newtown Pike Exit
Off the Exit, make a right towards Lexington
passing the Marriot Hotel
 
>From the East
Take I64 West until it joins with I75
Take Exit 115, the Newtown Pike Exit
Off the Exit, make a left towards Lexington
passing the Marriot Hotel
 
>From the West (Louisville, Evansville, Indy)
Take I64 East until it joins with I75
Take Exit 115, the Newtown Pike Exit
Off the Exit, make a right towards Lexington
passing the Marriot Hotel
 
>From the South
Take I75 North until it joins with I64

Take Exit 115, the Newtown Pike Exit
Off the Exit, make a left towards Lexington
passing the Marriot Hotel
 
>From the South (Bowling Green, Nashville)
Take I65 North to th Bluegrass Parkway
Take the Bluegrass Parkway all the way to the end
Exit the Parkway to the Right towards Lexington
This is Versailles Road.
Take Versailles Road to New Circle Road
Take the 2nd New Circle Exit to the right which
is right after you go under the bridge.
Travel around New Circle to the Newtown Pike Exit
Exit onto Newtown Pike and go right towards Downtown
 
Local Directions
Take Newtown Pike all the way into Downtown Lexington
Make a Left turn at the stoplight onto Main Street
Main Street will vere off to the right and become a one way
called Vine Street. Stay in the Left Lane on vine.
Take vine street about 4 blocks to Limestone.
Make a Left onto Limestone. There will be construction
on your Left. Then, go up one block and make an immediate
Left onto Main Street. The Venue is on your right.
 
The space is the MATRIX formerly the Rockhaven.
We are using multiple floors in the space with a huge main room
with both floors, there is a lot of space.
We are adding Turbo Sound, Lighting, and Visuals as well.
 
For more information on upcoming Lexington Events, check
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Thanks a lot and see you there,
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> i have so many good ideas i need to get snatched up by a 
> dot-com. - then i
> can be poor and live in silicon valley.
> 
> lowtech porn, i love it!  when do we get to see it?
well you'd get to see it right now if either of the two freepages ive tried
worked right!
i tried gurlpages.com(thought it was fitting somehow) but i can't upload a
pic
if i had no firewall at work it'd be up elsewhere at the moment
the bastards
gimme a minute

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oh yeah
thats hot

http://gurlpages.com/micahscock/index.html


click that shit fool

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>===== Original Message From "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com> =====
>oh yeah
>thats hot
>
>http://gurlpages.com/micahscock/index.html

wrong. wrong wrong wrong.

#2

-Jen

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> >oh yeah
> >thats hot
> >
> >http://gurlpages.com/micahscock/index.html
> 
> wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
surprised? surprised? surprised? surprised?	


didn't think so

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www.photopoint.com

mk

>i tried gurlpages.com(thought it was fitting somehow) but i can't upload a
>pic

________________________________________________________________________
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>> >http://gurlpages.com/micahscock/index.html
>>
>> wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
>surprised? surprised? surprised? surprised?
>
>
>didn't think so

Actually, I was.  I haven't paid any attention to this whole thread 
whatsoever.  I accidentally didn't delete that one when checking mail.  Oh 
what luck!

I'd seen that picture before, anyhoo..  but the caption.. wrong wrong wrong 
wrong!

-Jen

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OK, most of my emails I have had to these lists have been simple crap,=20
pointing out jokes, and my sarcasm.=A0 I want to get real for a second and=20
actually vent some shit.=A0 It's gonna ramble, because I'm just writing as I=
=20
think.

I have been really depressed the last few days, because of some things that=20
have been happening to me the last few weeks.=A0 It's driven me to the point=
=20
that I've considered cancelling the weekly we do here in Dayton, and to quit=
=20
DJ'ing all together.=A0 I felt a total lack of support from a lot of people=20
around me.=A0 I'm sort of on the borderline of being fired from my residency=
=20
on fridays, simply because I don't play the ghetto hip-hop that I don't=20
really like (Cash Money, etc.).=A0 I've been having music stolen from me,=20
shelled out every last dime I have into this weekly.=A0 I started it to begi=
n=20
with because I've been doing this club bit for five years, and I wanted to=20
get my name out in the rave scene.=A0 But that's hard to do when you have 30=
=20
people showing up.

The other night I tossed in my breaks CD.=A0 Tonight I listened to the Humpt=
y=20
Vission CD I got at Wishing On A Star.=A0 Between these two, I realized why=20=
I=20
started DJ'ing in the first place.=A0 I love the fucking music.=A0 I used to=
=20
borrow decks from people just so I could sit in my basement and record=20
myself mixing.=A0 I started out spinning hip-hop, ran into some Armand track=
s,=20
and got into house music back in '96.=A0 Now I'm all about house, busting ou=
t=20
some hip-hop when I can.=A0 I love the feeling that house gives me when I=20
listen to it.=A0 I love the energy.=A0 That's why I started this weekly.=A0=20=
That's=20
why I've wanted to get into DJ'ing at parties.=A0 The fucking music.=A0 Hell=
, I=20
remember one night seeing an ex-fiance of mine at a club, dancing with=20
someone else to "our song".=A0 By the time I got home, I was so sick with=20
pain, I couldn't stand.=A0 So I went down and started mixing.=A0 Just tossed=
=20
something together.=A0 Damned if I didn't eventually feel a lot better.=A0 T=
he=20
music has always been there for me.=A0 No matter how many times I've thought=
=20
about giving it up, it pulls me back.=A0 DJ'ing is what I am.

So I've come into this with a new resolve.=A0 I'm gonna keep going as long a=
s=20
there's music being made, and people there to listen to it.=A0 All I ask is=20
that any body out who is willing please support me.=A0 I'm not about the=20
money, I'm not about fame, I'm about making people dance and being heard.=
=A0 I=20
may not be a music god, but if I'm good enough to hold several club=20
residencies, as the only DJ, I must have SOME talent.

So fuck it.=A0 Activ8 is still on.=A0 DJ Soniq Stylz is still on.=A0 I'm gon=
na=20
look around for ways to entertain people.=A0 Bring some people in.=A0 Make s=
ome=20
new contacts, and keep some old ones.=A0 Is anyone with me?

Thanks for hearing me out.

Tim Hayes -- DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH.


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> >> >http://gurlpages.com/micahscock/index.html
> >>
> >> wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
> >surprised? surprised? surprised? surprised?
> >
> >
> >didn't think so
> 
> Actually, I was.  I haven't paid any attention to this whole thread 
> whatsoever.  I accidentally didn't delete that one when 
> checking mail.  Oh 
> what luck!
> 
> I'd seen that picture before, anyhoo..  but the caption.. 
> wrong wrong wrong 
> wrong!
would you believe thats my cock?

its not..

but you really shouldnt be so hasty in deleting mw-mail
i stated yesterday i was tired of the sociopathic political email trend mw
had taken
and gratefully today its been all cocktalk

lovely
im sure it'd be right up yer alley

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>would you believe thats my cock?

Nah, I've seen the face it's attached to..

>and gratefully today its been all cocktalk
>lovely
>im sure it'd be right up yer alley

Can we talk about vaginas on Monday?

-Jen

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> So fuck it.=A0 Activ8 is still on.=A0 DJ Soniq Stylz is still on.=A0
>  I'm gonna=20
> look around for ways to entertain people.=A0 Bring some people=20
> in.=A0 Make some=20
> new contacts, and keep some old ones.=A0 Is anyone with me?
>=20
> Thanks for hearing me out.
there you go!
tim, we've all fuckin been there
its always something different and it may seem unrelated but we've all =
had
moments where it seems
itd be easier just to quit and stop caring all together, but seeing =
your
email shift from
that kind of attitude to using it as a resolve to DO something
thats nice to see
i wish you all the luck, and i haven't been around activ8 much lately =
to
support, but its easy to make excuses
i'll start showin up man, and if you ever need me to play i play techno =
now
so maybe more people will like it than that hardcore from the past

i also have to give tim some props in letting me and a friend at the =
time
play back when we were just doing
whatever we could to not bore ourselves
he let us play some fucked up music in a very non-receptive place and i
appreciate that
cos tim doesn't play anything resembling the shit we did at the time
yet he was into it anyway, and that is fuckin cool
i may not like house or breaks, but yeah i got yer back man.
and anyone else that is worth a fuck of what they preach will too.

and that better be everyone and anyone i talk to on this list.

better recognize

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> >would you believe thats my cock?
> 
> Nah, I've seen the face it's attached to..
ahhhh damn
thats cool
i wouldn't claim it anyway

> >and gratefully today its been all cocktalk
> >lovely
> >im sure it'd be right up yer alley
> 
> Can we talk about vaginas on Monday?
sure, i'll put it on my calendar

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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 02:33:32PM -0500, Topping, Micah wrote:
> > Can we talk about vaginas on Monday?
> sure, i'll put it on my calendar

No, you're supposed to say "I'll pencil you in" so as to say that you
can deal with her, but only in the unlikely event that something more
important doesn't come up.

How do you expect to trick people into thinking you're important unless
you do things like this?

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> oh yeah
> thats hot
> 
> http://gurlpages.com/micahscock/index.html
> 
> 
> click that shit fool

That's just gorgeuous.

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I take it with all this "cock" talk, there isn't much
music related stuff going on in the midwest?

~G

"Topping, Micah" wrote:

> > >would you believe thats my cock?
> >
> > Nah, I've seen the face it's attached to..
> ahhhh damn
> thats cool
> i wouldn't claim it anyway
>
> > >and gratefully today its been all cocktalk
> > >lovely
> > >im sure it'd be right up yer alley
> >
> > Can we talk about vaginas on Monday?
> sure, i'll put it on my calendar
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From mw-raves-return-15653-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 19:38:23 2001
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what do you mean?  cock has everything to do with raves.

-t

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I take it with all this "cock" talk, there isn't much
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> Can we talk about vaginas on Monday?
CAN WE?!?!?


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From mw-raves-return-15655-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 19:40:39 2001
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> > > Can we talk about vaginas on Monday?
> > sure, i'll put it on my calendar
> 
> No, you're supposed to say "I'll pencil you in" so as to say that you
> can deal with her, but only in the unlikely event that something more
> important doesn't come up.
oh come on atomly!
this is the digital age you know that!
i'll put ya in my ubercool computer calendar(i.e. outlook at work)
i can hit delete if it doesnt work out for ya

> How do you expect to trick people into thinking you're 
> important unless
> you do things like this?
by using big words like ubercool of course!

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From mw-raves-return-15656-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 19:42:28 2001
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> by using big words like ubercool of course!

How about Ubermensch?

I've been reading Joyce again.

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From mw-raves-return-15657-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 19:43:10 2001
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> I take it with all this "cock" talk, there isn't much
> music related stuff going on in the midwest?
midwest is the homeland of cockrock...duh

but no we do...but unless someone brings something up worth discussing its
cock for all!

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From mw-raves-return-15658-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 19:44:33 2001
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> > by using big words like ubercool of course!
> 
> How about Ubermensch?

I prefer "uber-deer" as in the one that stole the meat in the stinkymeat
project part 2.
 
> I've been reading Joyce again.

that's my aunt's name.  you can call her uber-joyce if you prefer.

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last I checked music had everything  to do with raves........
of course maybe we are weird out here in california.
maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.
it's too bad people choose to abuse their resources.
By the way, sfraves is now moderated because of this
non related bantor........


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> what do you mean?  cock has everything to do with raves.
>
> -t
>
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> music related stuff going on in the midwest?
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From mw-raves-return-15660-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 19:50:57 2001
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> last I checked music had everything  to do with raves........
> of course maybe we are weird out here in california.

what, people in california don't make music with their cocks?

> maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.

could be.  were you looking for
mw-stuffy-music-discussion-only-raves@hyperreal.org?

> it's too bad people choose to abuse their resources.
> By the way, sfraves is now moderated because of this
> non related bantor........

we have a hell of a lot more fun than the people on sfraves.

chris


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I strongly feel there are lots things to do at raves/with raves... some
people choose cock other music?  others annoying ass banter... so what???


Whee!


tad


At 11:46 AM 1/26/01 -0800, Gabriel Hylander wrote:
>last I checked music had everything  to do with raves........
>of course maybe we are weird out here in california.
>maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.
>it's too bad people choose to abuse their resources.
>By the way, sfraves is now moderated because of this
>non related bantor........
>
>
>Tony Sebion wrote:
>
>> what do you mean?  cock has everything to do with raves.
>>
>> -t
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> I take it with all this "cock" talk, there isn't much
>> music related stuff going on in the midwest?
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> last I checked music had everything  to do with raves........
> of course maybe we are weird out here in california.
> maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.
> it's too bad people choose to abuse their resources.
> By the way, sfraves is now moderated because of this
> non related bantor........
jesus christ man
you ARE gonna have a rough time in the midwest
here in the midwest we are MUCH more laidback
we have what is referred to as a "sense of humour"
we dont take ourselves seriously
we dont live for rave
i STILL think this list should be renamed to mw-ravers
cos thats what it is
people that happen to currently or previously gone raving in the midwest
and we all talk about stuff because we are more than that

fuck that, if this list is ever moderated it wont be mw-raves anymore
join some fucking candy list if you want to talk about rave

COCK COCK COCK


sorry im just extremely tired of people joining and within the hour
complaining about
how we all need to change

what happened to the rule that you sit on the list for at least a week
before posting
to see what the list was about?

fuckina man


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Subject: RE: [mw] sexy rave girlies wuz Re: [mw] age limits, kids at raves	, etc.

I don't want to scare off any girls I may want to marry someday.  20 seems
to be a good number.  I could never mever marry someone wiht like 50
partners unless I had been with close to that many.

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > I have only been with one girl not very many times.  It's 
> > time to change
> > that within the next year or so.  I figure one hook-up/months 
> > will up the
> > number to current day standards.
> one a month!? ha!
> i guess if yer just startin out...
> but to be a real player you need to name yoh bitches after the day of the
> week just to keep em straight
> 
> oh goodie...its friday(and NOT the guy from dragnet)
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Bring on the thought police.

Noble

Fuck martha stewart, martha's polishing doorknobs on the titanic...

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:46 AM
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last I checked music had everything  to do with raves........
of course maybe we are weird out here in california.
maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.
it's too bad people choose to abuse their resources.
By the way, sfraves is now moderated because of this
non related bantor........


Tony Sebion wrote:

> what do you mean?  cock has everything to do with raves.
>
> -t
>
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>
> I take it with all this "cock" talk, there isn't much
> music related stuff going on in the midwest?
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> > by using big words like ubercool of course!
> 
> How about Ubermensch?
that word ALWAYS looks clinically sexual to me
it always reminds me of Uberhymen
and i dont know what THAT means or says about my psychological condition

> I've been reading Joyce again.
good read

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Subject: Re: [mw] Cincinnati

i totally agree!  i'm from cincinnati & i'd like to see some less expensive
parties, too.  some of the best parties here i remember were the free victor
house parties that tanya & her friends put on.  they used christmas lights
for the "light show".  the vibe was thick & the price was right :)  i think
smaller parties create more depth to the culture.  larger parties seem to
promote the commercialism of the scene.  there seems to be more dj's at
clubs now, though & that's cool - like gravitybass & lift.  but there's just
something about a club that makes the whole experience a little less, you
know?

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Does anyone else notice that there is rarely ever a party in Cincinnati (or
Dayton since most Cincy parties are there)  that is under $20 to get into?
I enjoy some of the bigger parties and all, but there hasn't been a small
(by that I mean 10 or 15 bucks a pop max and a maximum capacity of around
500-750 peeps) party in this city in quite some time.  There was one in
December, but we all know who threw that and well, lets just say, he isn't
too popular amongst the other promoters in the area, that and the fact that
it was busted before 2am.  Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there and
see what everyone else thinks.



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> I don't want to scare off any girls I may want to marry 
> someday.  20 seems
> to be a good number.  I could never mever marry someone wiht like 50
> partners unless I had been with close to that many.
well then sleep with that many and im sure you can find a girl with that
many
since all you know are sluts and all...

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> do you keep grenades at your home too?
> in case witnesses stop by?
> of the jehova kind

Nope, just mines and Claymores.



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i must step in here (anyone surprised?)
ive been to this weekly thing of his....and i must say that you people 
(everyone in driving distance of dayton, basicly) have absolutely NO 
appreciation for when someone is trying to do something POSITIVE for your 
local scene. now, im not gonna get all plurry on yall (thats pixie's job), 
but i am going to bitch you out for not at LEAST checking this thing out. ive 
been a few times and i dont even live in ohio yet. GOOD dj's play, a few 
weeks ago kid entropy played, doug played last week, lots of wonderful 
locals, not to mention TIM who  puts this fukker together, runs the shit, and 
still plays. well, i hope its still going on when i get all moved to dayton, 
because i plan to support.....

================================
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fly around your head-this you cannot change
But that they build nests in your hair
That you can prevent"
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> girls like this exist
> they are too good for you
> they are called "selective"
> you want what we call "by the hour" kinda girls

I have already had your ex girlfriends.

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> Bring on the thought police.

can we have you arrested?

> Fuck martha stewart, martha's polishing doorknobs on the titanic...

no... last time i checked, she was hosting a successful tv show.

yours truly,
the chris police.


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I don't want to scare off any girls I may want to marry someday.  20 seems
to be a good number.  I could never mever marry someone wiht like 50
partners unless I had been with close to that many.

Will that be in your pre-nuptual agreement?

Noble

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> ----------
> From: 	Schlough, Bryann
> Sent: 	Friday, January 26, 2001 2:00 PM
> To: 	graphics
> Subject: 	tickle me
> 
> 
> A new employee is hired at the Tickle Me Elmo factory. The
> personnel manager
> explains her duties, and tells her to report to work
> promptly at 8:00 AM.
> The next day at 8:45 AM, there's a knock at the personnel
> manager's door.
> The assembly line foreman comes in and starts ranting about
> this new
> employee. He says she's incredibly slow, and the whole line
> is backing up.
> The foreman takes the personnel manager down to the factory
> floor to show
> him the problem. Sure enough, Elmo's are backed up all over
> the place.
> At the end of the line is the new employee. She has a roll
> of the material
> used for the Elmo's and a big bag of marbles. They both
> watch as she cuts a
> little piece of fabric, wraps it around two marbles, and
> starts sewing the
> little package between Elmo's legs.
> The personnel manager starts laughing hysterically. After
> several minutes,
> he pulls himself together, walks over to the woman, and
> says, "I'm sorry, I
> guess you misunderstood me yesterday. Your job is to give
> Elmo two test
> tickles."
> 
> 
> 


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From mw-raves-return-15674-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 20:02:08 2001
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Bring it on Barney Fife...

Noble

Fuck martha stewart, martha's polishing doorknobs on the titanic...


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> Bring on the thought police.

can we have you arrested?

> Fuck martha stewart, martha's polishing doorknobs on the titanic...

no... last time i checked, she was hosting a successful tv show.

yours truly,
the chris police.

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> 
>     Whoa, dude finally cracked. This is why I don't want people like him
> carrying guns! =]

Move to your homeland of Germany.
(all those that favor gun control always have their right hand raised at
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> I have already had your ex girlfriends.
doubtful
i have taste
and the luck to be selective

and my exgirlfriends number more than 2 so i seriously doubt you've had any

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Matt Murphy wrote:

> 
>     Whoa, dude finally cracked. This is why I don't want people like him
> carrying guns! =]


Yeah, George Washington was a bit of a radical too!

Noble

Fuck martha stewart, martha's polishing doorknobs on the titanic...

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> Will that be in your pre-nuptual agreement?

Shit I forget about all that legal bullship.  I guess it's time to join
whores for life.  Can't let some trick get away with half my earnings now
can I.  Good thing indiana doesn't have domestic partner laws.  This means
I can shack up and not held liable even if we  live together for years.

> 
> Noble
> 
> Fuck martha stewart, martha's polishing doorknobs on the titanic...
> 
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Topping, Micah wrote:

> > I have already had your ex girlfriends.
> doubtful
> i have taste
> and the luck to be selective
> 
> and my exgirlfriends number more than 2 so i seriously doubt you've had any

Relatives don't count.


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> > and my exgirlfriends number more than 2 so i seriously 
> doubt you've had any
> 
> Relatives don't count.
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From mw-raves-return-15681-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 20:14:47 2001
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can something please be done to stop with the preaching of misogyny,
bigotry and hatred? i don't enjoy opening up my inbox to receive messages
with rvkellar's crap. i can filter him but not everyone that replies to
his fear-driven drivel. 

i have spoken to chad privately, and now i am doing this
publically. rvkellar has never once posted anything about music or raves
to this list. not once has he ever posted anything constructive. 
mw-raves is not a forum to exclusively spew political rants and verbal
violence. i'm not saying ban everything nrr, but please be
reasonable. rvkellar, if you feel the need to express your views can you
do it someplace more appropriate, like
gun-toting-militia-potential-rapist-freaks@egroups or something? 

yes i want him banned. fine, institute warning or something first, see if
he can get rid of his perpetual self-righteous hard-on. someone will
probably argue that there is a right to free speech or something like that
and i agree, but mw-raves is not a battleground for the first
amendment. sometimes lines need to be drawn before people get
hurt. sometimes words hurt, and that's easy to forget. no i'm not
preaching plur, just simple humanity, and respect.

i've been on this list for 5 years to interact with a community and
discuss music, not to recieve 30 emails a day throwing misogynistic
garbage around like it's gospel. 

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> Yeah, George Washington was a bit of a radical too!
george washington wasnt radical
he was gnardly...maybe wicked
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> > Yeah, George Washington was a bit of a radical too!
> george washington wasnt radical
> he was gnardly...maybe wicked
> but definitely not radical

when referring to george washington, I prefer "tubular."

when honest abe lincoln was assasinated, i think people said "hairball"

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On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, j3s wrote:
 
> i've been on this list for 5 years to interact with a community and
> discuss music, not to recieve 30 emails a day throwing misogynistic
> garbage around like it's gospel. 

30? try more like 150....

and it's not all rvkeller's fault either. If people didn't reply to his
crap with 1 liners, there would be much less garbage.
But what do I know, I've only been here 3 years.


daryl.








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In a message dated 1/26/01 3:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
planetsite@hotmail.com writes:

<<  i remember were the free victor
 house parties that tanya & her friends put on.  they used christmas lights
 for the "light show".  the vibe was thick & the price was right :)  >>

What's uP fellow victor house kid! haha.. Those were By Far some of the 
highlighted memmories I have about the cincinnati scene!! (( The fresh kids! 
))  I will forever cherish those times and vibes! 
Also, this past summer at the ball fields.. I recall at least three dank 
parties there..all for the sweet price of ten-fifteen dollars with excellent 
talent... <3  too bad commercialism ruins these days..
As for the topcat's scene.. I love it! Less dramatized bullshit.. less 
drugs.. less immature people wandering endlessly in search of something.. 
People there are typically there for the music.. isn't that what it's all 
about? Oh wait.. I forgot to mention the 'ecstacy pillz' yeah.. don't forget 
that.. 
~mph 
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> > maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.
>
> could be.  were you looking for
> mw-stuffy-music-discussion-only-raves@hyperreal.org?

stuffy....hmm, good word, and possible appropriate as well
I guess my only request would be that people tag
their e-mails with
[NRR] non rave related
[SRR] sorta rave related
[VRR] very rave related

so that the people that are on the list for stuffy music discussion
could filter thru the non-related stuff..........instead of having to
read
thru lots of bantor to get to the stuff they find relevant.
That way everybody gets what they want.

of course I'm just some guy from California who really has no idea
what I'm talking about, so you can all ignore me and do whatcha want.
To tell the truth,I really could care less either.......just giving some

constructive critisizm to help make YOUR resource a little bit better.
But if you don't care, then why should I?


>jesus christ man
>you ARE gonna have a rough time in the midwest
>here in the midwest we are MUCH more laidback
>we have what is referred to as a "sense of humour"
>we dont take ourselves seriously
>we dont live for rave

first off, you don't know me, or how laid back I am,
or my sense of humor......and this e-mail just goes
to show how uptight YOU are, to get this huffy in
such a hurry. I was just making some initial observations,
in a polite manner......you don't know where I'm coming
from obviously, so maybe I should take the time to share.
your community and scene are underfire
from the law. How much do you wanna bet there are law
enforcement officers reading every post you make here.
This is a turning point for dance culture as we know it.
I'm sure you all are aware of the 3 promoters in jail
in New Orleans........because of the crack house law.
Yes, Raves and parties are now being compared to crack
houses, and these lists are probably one of the few local/global venues
to be able to try and fight back against the establishment.
To organize and fight back, before even more of our constitutional
rights get taken away.....Imagine being in jail for throwing a party.
Imagine not being able to dance your stress away, or hang out
with other people and listen to dance music, without being scared
of going to jail. Maybe if you stopped talking about your cock
for a second, you might have time to share some decent ideas on
helping our scene get back on track. But hey, since you don't seem to
care, I guess I'm wasting my breath.

Look, if you don't take yourself or this list serious, then I won't
either.
No problem there, And yes,I can be silly and talk about my cock....but I
think
I'd go someplace where people wanted to hear me talk about my cock.
Not someplace that unified the dance community that is so close to
becoming horrifically illegal......it's about responsability. I guess
the people
on SFRAVES might not have as much fun, but they might be responsable
for saving YOUR scene.


(off soapbox)
I'm done, and I WILL be sticking around for a bit........as much as you
probably won't like it.........

~G



>
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> > i've been on this list for 5 years to interact with a community and
> > discuss music, not to recieve 30 emails a day throwing misogynistic
> > garbage around like it's gospel. 
> 
> 30? try more like 150....
> 
> and it's not all rvkeller's fault either. If people didn't 
> reply to his
> crap with 1 liners, there would be much less garbage.
> But what do I know, I've only been here 3 years.
well being a part of the one-liner faction i would have to say
that the levity we bring to the situation helps to offset the serious
twistedness of mister kellrs posts.  also, i dont see anyone
else posting anything misogynistic in any serious manner besides mister
keller
so your issue with the unrelated garbage and bullshit one liners seems a
seperate
point from the issue of mw-raves' recent political-post trend.

im sorry we annoy, but we persist

i love this list because almost everyone on it hates it

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> stuffy....hmm, good word, and possible appropriate as well
> I guess my only request would be that people tag
> their e-mails with
> [NRR] non rave related
> [SRR] sorta rave related
> [VRR] very rave related
and what did you prepend the subject of your emails with when you posted to
the list 
monsieur higher than thou?

> first off, you don't know me, or how laid back I am,
> or my sense of humor......and this e-mail just goes
> to show how uptight YOU are, to get this huffy in
> such a hurry. I was just making some initial observations,
hahaha
listen gabriel, if you think i took your email or my own any more seriously
than i took the prospect of decking my dick out in candy then you are
unfortunately
mistaken
i popped that email off in less than a minute and with less thought behind
it than some of the others
of the day

> in a polite manner......you don't know where I'm coming
> from obviously, so maybe I should take the time to share.
> your community and scene are underfire
> from the law. How much do you wanna bet there are law
> enforcement officers reading every post you make here.
well how much do you wanna bet that i dont care?
how much do you wanna bet that few of us care?
and is it somehow apparent to you that we care about the death
of our scene or the fire from the law by the way we discuss penis?
we are a joke to law enforcement, just as they are to us
who gives a damn?
we are about having fun, and no cop or fed is gonna keep us from
doing that in a mailing list
i dont really see what relevancy that has to our lack of rave-relatedness
if anything it is a great cover

> This is a turning point for dance culture as we know it.
who fucking cares?
i dont need a culture to dance or listen to good music
or hang out with cool people or sip absinthe in the bubble bath either
so fuck the culture, i define me before the culture defines me

> I'm sure you all are aware of the 3 promoters in jail
> in New Orleans........because of the crack house law.
blah blah
blah
so?

> Yes, Raves and parties are now being compared to crack
> houses, and these lists are probably one of the few 
> local/global venues
> to be able to try and fight back against the establishment.
who cares?
if they say we can't throw or attend raves...well then come up with
something new
stop fighting to defend the dead

> To organize and fight back, before even more of our constitutional
> rights get taken away.....Imagine being in jail for throwing a party.
okay im done imagining it
how bout instead i imagine doing something worthwhile?

> Imagine not being able to dance your stress away, or hang out
> with other people and listen to dance music, without being scared
> of going to jail. Maybe if you stopped talking about your cock
> for a second, you might have time to share some decent ideas on
> helping our scene get back on track. But hey, since you don't seem to
> care, I guess I'm wasting my breath.
you are wasting your breath and your time and your energy fella
ive had lots of contributions and ideas and things for those that care about
it
but really truly i dont
people need to stop whining so much, yes the government is cracking down
yeah so what?
you can't rave anymore....boohoo

> Look, if you don't take yourself or this list serious, then I won't
> either.
thanks

> No problem there, And yes,I can be silly and talk about my 
> cock....but I
> think
> I'd go someplace where people wanted to hear me talk about my cock.
how bout mw-raves?
it seems to me 90% of the posts today have been about cocks and a couple
have been about other things
so i would say the majority of posts rules, wouldnt you?

> Not someplace that unified the dance community that is so close to
> becoming horrifically illegal......it's about responsability. I guess
> the people
> on SFRAVES might not have as much fun, but they might be responsable
> for saving YOUR scene.
its not my scene
its your ship, YOU sink with it

> (off soapbox)
> I'm done, and I WILL be sticking around for a bit........as 
> much as you
> probably won't like it.........
as much as i probably won't notice or care

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["Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>]
> well being a part of the one-liner faction i would have to say
> that the levity we bring to the situation helps to offset the serious
> twistedness of mister kellrs posts.  also, i dont see anyone


i disagree. i don't think you bring any levity to the situation to 
begin with, and if you did, i'm not entirely sure that it would help.

that said...
i agree that they are separate issues.

> im sorry we annoy, but we persist

if you know you annoy, and you're sorry, why do you persist?

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there's no way he's getting more that 3 G's for that - they aren't even on 
the cards/in the boxes!!

mk

At 12:18 PM 1/26/2001 -0800, you wrote:
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>
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i agree.  

wait no i agree and disagree.

maybe i just disagree.

blah, is it 5pm yet?
-t

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["Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>]
> well being a part of the one-liner faction i would have to say
> that the levity we bring to the situation helps to offset the serious
> twistedness of mister kellrs posts.  also, i dont see anyone


i disagree. i don't think you bring any levity to the situation to 
begin with, and if you did, i'm not entirely sure that it would help.

that said...
i agree that they are separate issues.

> im sorry we annoy, but we persist

if you know you annoy, and you're sorry, why do you persist?

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[j3s <jes@pubnix.org>]
> 
> can something please be done to stop with the preaching of misogyny,
> bigotry and hatred? i don't enjoy opening up my inbox to receive messages
> with rvkellar's crap. i can filter him but not everyone that replies to
> his fear-driven drivel. 
> 

if i felt that it was my place, i would probably kick him off. 
but it's really up to chad... not to me.

kellar: consider this your first warning... if i ever feel that it's my 
place, i'm probably going to kick you off the list.

m

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Blah Blah....whatever then....just the response I was expecting.
......thanks for basking in your ignorance a bit more for me.
I will assume that the other inhabitants of this list care a bit more
about their personal rights, freedoms and the right to party legally.

"Topping, Micah" wrote:

> > stuffy....hmm, good word, and possible appropriate as well
> > I guess my only request would be that people tag
> > their e-mails with
> > [NRR] non rave related
> > [SRR] sorta rave related
> > [VRR] very rave related
> and what did you prepend the subject of your emails with when you posted to
> the list
> monsieur higher than thou?
>
> > first off, you don't know me, or how laid back I am,
> > or my sense of humor......and this e-mail just goes
> > to show how uptight YOU are, to get this huffy in
> > such a hurry. I was just making some initial observations,
> hahaha
> listen gabriel, if you think i took your email or my own any more seriously
> than i took the prospect of decking my dick out in candy then you are
> unfortunately
> mistaken
> i popped that email off in less than a minute and with less thought behind
> it than some of the others
> of the day
>
> > in a polite manner......you don't know where I'm coming
> > from obviously, so maybe I should take the time to share.
> > your community and scene are underfire
> > from the law. How much do you wanna bet there are law
> > enforcement officers reading every post you make here.
> well how much do you wanna bet that i dont care?
> how much do you wanna bet that few of us care?
> and is it somehow apparent to you that we care about the death
> of our scene or the fire from the law by the way we discuss penis?
> we are a joke to law enforcement, just as they are to us
> who gives a damn?
> we are about having fun, and no cop or fed is gonna keep us from
> doing that in a mailing list
> i dont really see what relevancy that has to our lack of rave-relatedness
> if anything it is a great cover
>
> > This is a turning point for dance culture as we know it.
> who fucking cares?
> i dont need a culture to dance or listen to good music
> or hang out with cool people or sip absinthe in the bubble bath either
> so fuck the culture, i define me before the culture defines me
>
> > I'm sure you all are aware of the 3 promoters in jail
> > in New Orleans........because of the crack house law.
> blah blah
> blah
> so?
>
> > Yes, Raves and parties are now being compared to crack
> > houses, and these lists are probably one of the few
> > local/global venues
> > to be able to try and fight back against the establishment.
> who cares?
> if they say we can't throw or attend raves...well then come up with
> something new
> stop fighting to defend the dead
>
> > To organize and fight back, before even more of our constitutional
> > rights get taken away.....Imagine being in jail for throwing a party.
> okay im done imagining it
> how bout instead i imagine doing something worthwhile?
>
> > Imagine not being able to dance your stress away, or hang out
> > with other people and listen to dance music, without being scared
> > of going to jail. Maybe if you stopped talking about your cock
> > for a second, you might have time to share some decent ideas on
> > helping our scene get back on track. But hey, since you don't seem to
> > care, I guess I'm wasting my breath.
> you are wasting your breath and your time and your energy fella
> ive had lots of contributions and ideas and things for those that care about
> it
> but really truly i dont
> people need to stop whining so much, yes the government is cracking down
> yeah so what?
> you can't rave anymore....boohoo
>
> > Look, if you don't take yourself or this list serious, then I won't
> > either.
> thanks
>
> > No problem there, And yes,I can be silly and talk about my
> > cock....but I
> > think
> > I'd go someplace where people wanted to hear me talk about my cock.
> how bout mw-raves?
> it seems to me 90% of the posts today have been about cocks and a couple
> have been about other things
> so i would say the majority of posts rules, wouldnt you?
>
> > Not someplace that unified the dance community that is so close to
> > becoming horrifically illegal......it's about responsability. I guess
> > the people
> > on SFRAVES might not have as much fun, but they might be responsable
> > for saving YOUR scene.
> its not my scene
> its your ship, YOU sink with it
>
> > (off soapbox)
> > I'm done, and I WILL be sticking around for a bit........as
> > much as you
> > probably won't like it.........
> as much as i probably won't notice or care
>
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>last I checked music had everything  to do with raves........

have you been to a rave lately?

>of course maybe we are weird out here in california.

you are.

>maybe I accidently subscribed to the wrong list.

maybe you needed socal-raves.

>it's too bad people choose to abuse their resources.

better than abusing their dogs.

>By the way, sfraves is now moderated because of this
>non related bantor........

yeah but sf-raves has _always_ sucked.

mk
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> > well being a part of the one-liner faction i would have to say
> > that the levity we bring to the situation helps to offset 
> the serious
> > twistedness of mister kellrs posts.  also, i dont see anyone
> i disagree. i don't think you bring any levity to the situation to 
> begin with, and if you did, i'm not entirely sure that it would help.
well i guess that is what individual taste is for then isn't it?

> that said...
> i agree that they are separate issues.
ahh then we agree on one point

> > im sorry we annoy, but we persist
> if you know you annoy, and you're sorry, why do you persist?
I am sorry for anyone that is annoyed but im not sorry that I post

if you dont like it, you are an admin, ask me to leave
i'll be gone before i can reply

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> of course I'm just some guy from California who really has no idea
> what I'm talking about, so you can all ignore me and do whatcha want.

    You hit it on the head there. As much as I think most of the banter on
this list is stupid, you just joined, you have no place to say anything
about how we should be runnin' tings here. (and yes we've discussed the
crackhouse thing, we do care, just don't make it 80% of our traffic)

> (off soapbox)
> I'm done, and I WILL be sticking around for a bit........as much as you
> probably won't like it.........

    Hahahahaha, you will be broken (in?). That is all.

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    btw I'd like to mention that you remind me of every californian
transplant I've ever met, myself included. Get over yourself, the mw is a
much cooler place.

Matt Murphy
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> Blah Blah....whatever then....just the response I was expecting.
> ......thanks for basking in your ignorance a bit more for me.
> I will assume that the other inhabitants of this list care a bit more
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stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:
 
 << i mean, i'm almost hurt! we've had this going on now
  for almost 2 years??! and you can't even remember your
  pet name for me?? are you seeing someone else??
  
  sweetie, darling, i never believed in you. i did
  appreciate your attempt at sanity though...your effort
  actually lifted this enourmous feeling of pity i have
  for you for about 10 seconds. of course, everyone else
  had to ruin it for you by replying and thus drawing
  out the demon that still eats away at your soul. the
  devil! the devil!
  
  oh wait, that's one of my heads. get back here! >>
 
 are you kidding?!...that bitch iysys IS just another one
 of your heads!!...same with rachel, who coincidentally
 was born the year of the snake...makin her exactly 23,
 the number of the illuminati!...friggin feminine conspiracy!!
 ...and i'm sure hilary clinton, monica lewinsky, and linda
 tripp is a part of it all too!!...i mean c'mon, hilary has never
 even lived in new york and now she heads that state?
  

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>guess it's time to join whores for life.

http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=sluts4life

mk

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Blah Blah....whatever then....just the response I was expecting.
......thanks for basking in your ignorance a bit more for me.
I will assume that the other inhabitants of this list care a bit more
about their personal rights, freedoms and the right to party legally.

Some of us do, and some of us don't. Some of us are jaded and apathetic.
Some are optimistic, involved, or trying to be. Some of us are all of these
things at different times. I think many on here expect everyone on here to
be some kinda raver clone. That ain't going to happen. 

Some important questions are -

What is a rave? Is it more than just a party? Is there now or has there ever
been a scene? Is it our duty to protect this scene? Is raving about freedom?
Where are raves headed? Where is humanity headed?

Personally, I believe mankind has been "raving" since the begginning and
will until the end. What people consider the scene is just a rehash of the
celebration of life with a different soundtrack. I would love to see the
day, when raves are a tribe dancing around a fire to the beat of a drum.

Noble

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From mw-raves-return-15701-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 21:38:40 2001
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right on - i think the people here have a good perspective on what their
part is in the big picture... we go to events we like (no matter where they
are), we skip the ones we don't, and always remain true to ourselves before
any rave bullsheet.  this whole crack-house phenomenon right now is
something that blows past a lot of us, we never wanted to have events that
were that drug infested anyway.  what's to discuss? drugs are bad?  getting
arrested is bad?  hmmm, yup, these are discussions that'll take mw-raves to
that higher level.

-t

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(and yes we've discussed the
crackhouse thing, we do care, just don't make it 80% of our traffic)

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/me wonders how charles feels about his appearance on
the list spawning a discussion about micah's penis

> i can see it now...
> "micahscock.com"
> and i could decorate it for all kinds of seasons
> just like those damn duck
> statues people have outside their houses...

correction: guard geese.


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> Personally, I believe mankind has been "raving" since the begginning and
> will until the end. What people consider the scene is just a rehash of the
> celebration of life with a different soundtrack. I would love to see the
> day, when raves are a tribe dancing around a fire to the beat of a drum.
>

I agree with this as well, it is our "right"...........to rave, club, dance
whatever you want
personally I don't go to raves anymore, but being involved in the music as
I am, I have a
personal interest in making sure gathering and dancing stay legal. But that
wasn't
my point in the first place, it was to start some intelligent discussion.

~G


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Subject: [mw] so...

was there anything important on here today?
I just went delete happy because ive had a *shitty* ass day.

on a lighter note...
WHOS RAVING THIS WEEKEND?

=P

lorie

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Subject: [mw] ya down wit' entropy?!?

you are now down with the discount.

http://www.mchawking.com/songs/entropy.ram

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> >     Whoa, dude finally cracked. This is why I don't want people like him
> > carrying guns! =]
>
> Move to your homeland of Germany.
> (all those that favor gun control always have their right hand raised at
> 45 degrees.)

    Hmm. I seem to remember this little "squabble" some people called dubya
dubya II. Those nazis seemed to like their guns alot, they marched around in
their little hats and shouted a bunch and waved their guns all proudly...
nope, I don't think those guys would like me too much, they'd probably kick
my ass. You might fit in though, they were fighting to make the world safe
for their kind, they were pretty anti-alotofstuff like you are, and well you
both like guns a bunch. Salut!

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From mw-raves-return-15707-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 21:57:38 2001
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> what's to discuss? drugs are bad?  getting
> arrested is bad?  hmmm, yup, these are discussions that'll take mw-raves
to
> that higher level.

    Exactly. Also, as someone smarter than I pointed out the crackhouse law
won't hold much ground in an environment where people are searched
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> /me wonders how charles feels about his appearance on
> the list spawning a discussion about micah's penis
/me wonders if she's calling me a dick or being thoughtful. :)

but seriously, after all the discussions of his penis that i've
witnessed i'm rather desensitized at this point.


> correction: guard geese.
YOU TELL 'EM!


btw,
this damn list is corrupting me. i already bitched someone out
on the arena list for claiming the dnb scene is "divided" after
posting his new trance record stocks.


mind-fucked by mw-ravers,
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Subject: RE: [mw] Cincinnati

There were a few cheap parties at Riverfront West this summer, but have you
seen any since then?  The other thing to consider is that despite some of
those being cheap parties, not all of them were small.


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In a message dated 1/26/01 3:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
planetsite@hotmail.com writes:

<<  i remember were the free victor
 house parties that tanya & her friends put on.  they used christmas lights
 for the "light show".  the vibe was thick & the price was right :)  >>

What's uP fellow victor house kid! haha.. Those were By Far some of the
highlighted memmories I have about the cincinnati scene!! (( The fresh kids!
))  I will forever cherish those times and vibes!
Also, this past summer at the ball fields.. I recall at least three dank
parties there..all for the sweet price of ten-fifteen dollars with excellent
talent... <3  too bad commercialism ruins these days..
As for the topcat's scene.. I love it! Less dramatized bullshit.. less
drugs.. less immature people wandering endlessly in search of something..
People there are typically there for the music.. isn't that what it's all
about? Oh wait.. I forgot to mention the 'ecstacy pillz' yeah.. don't forget
that..
~mph
\/\/\ SubCuLtuRe /\/\/

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Yeah, but the damage is done already.  Those guys will have to spend a bundle
on lawyers to defend them from this frivolous prosecution.  I won't be
surprised if the prosecuters hit them with a lesser charge after the promoters
are cleared.  This will just give DAs in other jurisdictions bad ideas about
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badda bing, we have a chilling effect folks.


Tom

Matt Murphy wrote:

> > what's to discuss? drugs are bad?  getting
> > arrested is bad?  hmmm, yup, these are discussions that'll take mw-raves
> to
> > that higher level.
>
>     Exactly. Also, as someone smarter than I pointed out the crackhouse law
> won't hold much ground in an environment where people are searched
> thoroughly at the door and kicked out if they're caught selling.
>
> Matt Murphy
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>Yes, Raves and parties are now being compared to crack
>houses, and these lists are probably one of the few local/global venues
>to be able to try and fight back against the establishment.

see?!  people on mw-raves were comparing raves and parties to crack houses 
at least 4 years ago.  we're ahead of the trend!

and what's wrong with the establishment?  you live in cali - they tried 
doing something about the establishment there and now they've got no 
electricity!  are things really that bad?

>the people on SFRAVES might not have as much fun, but they might be 
>responsable
>for saving YOUR scene.

yeah, because the parties happening out there are sooooooooooo "true to the 
underground".  dumb.  that's not my scene at all.

mk
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From mw-raves-return-15712-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 26 22:10:47 2001
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i want to start by saying that jes makes a good point inasmuch as rvk has 
never really said anything anywhere close to "on-topic" (whatever that 
is).  while i think that his comments regarding rape victims earlier this 
week were out of line and insensitive, i think they spoke to his stupidity 
and cold-heartedness moreso than his political "agenda".  most of us would 
do well to tread lightly when it comes to topics as sensitive as this, 
especially if the person making the comments is somewhat removed from the 
rest of the "family".

but whatever - the point i wanted to get to, in whatever roundabout way i 
could, is that i don't really want to see further demonization of anyone 
who happens to hold more right-wing political views than the rest of the 
gander.  i see way too many people who are my age that think that just 
because you are into a certain "scene" that you must adopt the requisite 
liberal mindset associated with it.  i think there's room for everyone.  if 
people start getting booted for not wearing the fashionable brand of 
because you are into a certain "scene" that you must adopt the requisite 
liberal mindset associated with it.  i think there's room for everyone.  if 
people start getting booted for not wearing the fashionable brand of 
thought, i'm not gonna be here very much longer myself.

mk, who has never ever posted anything out of line or insensitive - ever!
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    Very true. Lawyers (as family werks found out last winter) are rather
expensive, and I doubt any venue owner would rent out their place if they
thought they'd even be taken to court at all on some crackhouse law
bullshit, even if they weren't convicted. (I sure as hell wouldn't)

Matt Murphy
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> Yeah, but the damage is done already.  Those guys will have to spend a
bundle
> on lawyers to defend them from this frivolous prosecution.  I won't be
> surprised if the prosecuters hit them with a lesser charge after the
promoters
> are cleared.  This will just give DAs in other jurisdictions bad ideas
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> who they can prosecute to stop these evil things called raves.  Badda boom
> badda bing, we have a chilling effect folks.



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Which would mean pushing the "scene" back to the underground.
Where it belongs in the firstplace.........in my opinion, but at least keep
it legal and out of the mainstream.

Matt Murphy wrote:

>     Very true. Lawyers (as family werks found out last winter) are rather
> expensive, and I doubt any venue owner would rent out their place if they
> thought they'd even be taken to court at all on some crackhouse law
> bullshit, even if they weren't convicted. (I sure as hell wouldn't)
>
> Matt Murphy
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>
> > Yeah, but the damage is done already.  Those guys will have to spend a
> bundle
> > on lawyers to defend them from this frivolous prosecution.  I won't be
> > surprised if the prosecuters hit them with a lesser charge after the
> promoters
> > are cleared.  This will just give DAs in other jurisdictions bad ideas
> about
> > who they can prosecute to stop these evil things called raves.  Badda boom
> > badda bing, we have a chilling effect folks.
>
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> on a lighter note...
> WHOS RAVING THIS WEEKEND?

    I'm raving so hard! I'm raving so hard! er, wait, no, Minneapolis dried
up. Seriously, stupid promoters did stupid things to all the good venues and
now we're up shit creek, gone from a big party or two every weekend to one a
month if we're lucky. I'm going dancing at a coffeeshop/bar/club place
tonight featuring guys that run the local record shop. Welcome to the end of
an era, minneapolis.

Matt Murphy
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    The reason anything was ever "underground" is nobody knew about it. Now
that everybody and their mother knows about it you won't be able to get
venues like the "underground" did. Either the clubs take over or you have a
network of house parties like in milwaukee, I don't think the "underground"
will ever re-surface the way it once was.

Matt Murphy
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> Which would mean pushing the "scene" back to the underground.
> Where it belongs in the firstplace.........in my opinion, but at least
keep
> it legal and out of the mainstream.



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Yeah, the clubscene will end up being the rave scene, as they have done in
England already.........then you get the added benefit of the guidos and
plastic people who are there to "look cool" and could care less what they
were listening to. The "underground" will have to adapt like it sounds like
they've done in milwaukee........

Matt Murphy wrote:

>     The reason anything was ever "underground" is nobody knew about it. Now
> that everybody and their mother knows about it you won't be able to get
> venues like the "underground" did. Either the clubs take over or you have a
> network of house parties like in milwaukee, I don't think the "underground"
> will ever re-surface the way it once was.
>
> Matt Murphy
> sound.light.motion
> murph@mr.net
>
> > Which would mean pushing the "scene" back to the underground.
> > Where it belongs in the firstplace.........in my opinion, but at least
> keep
> > it legal and out of the mainstream.
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    Yep, I suspect that's the future... it's a shame the rave thing doesn't
have more longevity to it, but it seems like it's always been kind of a
delicate balance, and too many people tipped the scales too many times...


> Yeah, the clubscene will end up being the rave scene, as they have done in
> England already.........then you get the added benefit of the guidos and
> plastic people who are there to "look cool" and could care less what they
> were listening to. The "underground" will have to adapt like it sounds
like
> they've done in milwaukee........



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> Yeah, the clubscene will end up being the rave scene, as they have done in
> England already.........then you get the added benefit of the guidos and
I cant wait! Like England, e.g. Fabric on Fridays. Never been there myself,
but I've not once heard a bad thing, only that it's ABSOLUTELY ROADBLOCK!


> plastic people who are there to "look cool" and could care less what they
Not as if raves do not have their fair share of plastic people.


> were listening to. The "underground" will have to adapt like it sounds like
> they've done in milwaukee........
Adapt, FOR REAL! What people have been doing since the 60's, we aren't the
first to have to deal w/govt. cracking down on our goodtimes and music. OH
WELL, a new way to "rave" is always on the horizon, just usually we can't
see it. May be instead of wasting our time trying to save rave, we should
concentrate on how to enhance our clubby-looking future.

And you're from SF! You have REAL clubs, why complain?


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On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:54:21PM -0500, oeb wrote:
> I cant wait! Like England, e.g. Fabric on Fridays. Never been there myself,
> but I've not once heard a bad thing, only that it's ABSOLUTELY ROADBLOCK!

I've been to Fabric on a Friday.  It was massive.  Fucking amazing.
Every jungle DJ I could ever want to see, all on AMAZING sound systems.

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>only that it's ABSOLUTELY ROADBLOCK!

belive m8 the place be ramjammed, innit?

mk
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||Does anyone else notice that there is rarely ever a party in Cincinnati (or
||Dayton since most Cincy parties are there)  that is under $20 to get into?

I'd say that's the case in any city. In fact, in most places you'll have a hard time getting into
a club for less than that. 



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In a message dated 1/26/01 9:16:48 AM Central Standard Time, 
micah.topping@eds.com writes:

> ps i have never done pixie in the butt, that was for shock value so no
>  mw-rumour spreading
>  

i HOWEVER, have done pixie in the butt.....spread that on your honey wheat 
with your ky-jelly rumors...
<3laura

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In a message dated 1/26/01 10:14:01 AM Central Standard Time, 
shawne@zoomtown.com writes:

>  That is unless you want Captain Beatrice
>  sitting in a jar in my medicine cabinet.

well, i think we should detatch captain beatrice and use him for a peg leg 
for nirget the three legged wonderkitty.
that would prove more useful than adding to the wide collection of 
detatchable peepees in shawne's medicine cabinet.

-l0r4sauce


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Subject: [mw] Re: {pb-cle} Why I do this shit (vent)

I feel ya.  Music is the one thing in this world that is true to you.  If 
it's your love and your passion then it isn't something you can just "give 
up".  I've seen it many times.  My girlfriend's best friend's fiance plays 
in a band and music is his passion.  They we're playing gigs everywhere in 
phili and maryland.  His bride to be hates the band and the "rock 'n roll" 
lifestyle.  Well he got fired from his band for some reason and things 
between the two of them were getting back together.  He other plans of going 
back to school and staying focused on the marriage.  Well sure enough 
another offer comes along from another band and he jumps right back in it 
despite what his fiance's wishes were.  He just can't leave it alone.  Music 
has a very powerful grasp on the one's who truely love it.  It can put you 
in any mood that you want it too.  I have a hard time walking away from it 
too although I've tried.  I doubt that I ever will.  I'm sure that I'll 
continue making it (whether it's jungle or not)for as long as people want to 
hear it and definitly for as long as I want to hear it.  Fuck it man..keep 
doing what your doing..whether you draw a crowd or not (which i'm sure you 
will in no time).  If you're like me you love it enough to care less.

C-ya


Jon / CAUSE 'N' EFFECT

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>From: OneBadDJ@aol.com
>To: Mw-raves@hyperreal.org, Pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: {pb-cle} Why I do this shit (vent)
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:15:11 EST
>
>OK, most of my emails I have had to these lists have been simple crap,
>pointing out jokes, and my sarcasm.  I want to get real for a second and
>actually vent some shit.  It's gonna ramble, because I'm just writing as I
>think.
>
>I have been really depressed the last few days, because of some things that
>have been happening to me the last few weeks.  It's driven me to the point
>that I've considered cancelling the weekly we do here in Dayton, and to 
>quit
>DJ'ing all together.  I felt a total lack of support from a lot of people
>around me.  I'm sort of on the borderline of being fired from my residency
>on fridays, simply because I don't play the ghetto hip-hop that I don't
>really like (Cash Money, etc.).  I've been having music stolen from me,
>shelled out every last dime I have into this weekly.  I started it to begin
>with because I've been doing this club bit for five years, and I wanted to
>get my name out in the rave scene.  But that's hard to do when you have 30
>people showing up.
>
>The other night I tossed in my breaks CD.  Tonight I listened to the Humpty
>Vission CD I got at Wishing On A Star.  Between these two, I realized why I
>started DJ'ing in the first place.  I love the fucking music.  I used to
>borrow decks from people just so I could sit in my basement and record
>myself mixing.  I started out spinning hip-hop, ran into some Armand 
>tracks,
>and got into house music back in '96.  Now I'm all about house, busting out
>some hip-hop when I can.  I love the feeling that house gives me when I
>listen to it.  I love the energy.  That's why I started this weekly.  
>That's
>why I've wanted to get into DJ'ing at parties.  The fucking music.  Hell, I
>remember one night seeing an ex-fiance of mine at a club, dancing with
>someone else to "our song".  By the time I got home, I was so sick with
>pain, I couldn't stand.  So I went down and started mixing.  Just tossed
>something together.  Damned if I didn't eventually feel a lot better.  The
>music has always been there for me.  No matter how many times I've thought
>about giving it up, it pulls me back.  DJ'ing is what I am.
>
>So I've come into this with a new resolve.  I'm gonna keep going as long as
>there's music being made, and people there to listen to it.  All I ask is
>that any body out who is willing please support me.  I'm not about the
>money, I'm not about fame, I'm about making people dance and being heard.  
>I
>may not be a music god, but if I'm good enough to hold several club
>residencies, as the only DJ, I must have SOME talent.
>
>So fuck it.  Activ8 is still on.  DJ Soniq Stylz is still on.  I'm gonna
>look around for ways to entertain people.  Bring some people in.  Make some
>new contacts, and keep some old ones.  Is anyone with me?
>
>Thanks for hearing me out.
>
>Tim Hayes -- DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH.
>

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shawne@zoomtown.com writes:

<< You know amanda, since Nathan, Chad, and I are going to be in Columbus the
 first weekend of March for the Gracie Family Jiu-Jitsu Championships
 (especially since Nathan is competing in it now) maybe we'll have to visit
 all the strip-joints that Stevie is supposedly the pimp of and show him why
 there is no need for most of us to carry weapons. >>

hehe...i think you'd like to meet my roommate...he's 
6'5" and just got out of jail for fightin...not the first time
either...lol, ironically since he has a shaved head...he
looks like a skinhead...but he's not...he just likes to
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["Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>]
> 
> > > im sorry we annoy, but we persist
> > if you know you annoy, and you're sorry, why do you persist?
> I am sorry for anyone that is annoyed but im not sorry that I post

so you're sorry the same way you'd be sorry if some thug broke my arm,
but not sorry the same way you'd be sorry if YOU broke my arm?
that seems odd in this case, since the situation that you're sorry for
arose as a direct result of your actions... i suppose you could argue
that only i am ultimately responsible for my own state of mind, and thus
explain the distinction between this and the arm-breaking scenario, and
maybe you'd be right... but i don't think this petty argument really warrants 
a philosophical discussion of that magnitude.

> 
> if you dont like it, you are an admin, ask me to leave
> i'll be gone before i can reply
> 

you know as well as i do that that isn't the point at all... but even
so, i don't get it... you'd leave if i asked you to, but you won't slow
down with the inane one-liners if i ask you to? that seems weird.

m

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murph@mr.net writes:

<<     The reason anything was ever "underground" is nobody knew about it. Now
 that everybody and their mother knows about it you won't be able to get
 venues like the "underground" did. Either the clubs take over or you have a
 network of house parties like in milwaukee, I don't think the "underground"
 will ever re-surface the way it once was. >>

no...the reason, why the "underground" was destroyed
was because the media portrayed it as a drug haven...
so joe kid went thinking this was the place to go to get
blitzed at without a clue about what music was playing
not to mention the countless hours the music producers
worked to create just one track!...and of course the greedier
ghetto heads were more than happy to supply the kids
with as much drugs as they can buy up...overdoses
were inevitable...and once that happened...an ambulance
had to be called...parents had to be notified...and it marked
the end of ever using that same venue again...every single
decent venue has been lost in ohio due to this same damn
reason!...thats why the scene here like the west coast has
grown up and moved into clubs...

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ahhh the viktor house.. miss those parties.
and yeah there were quite a few good partys at the ball feilds.

hope to see some of you schmucks at Synchronicity 2morrow!!!
and o yeah.. planetsite...who are you???
Gabe
Jo Mama Pro

Izzitec@aol.com writes:

<<  i remember were the free victor
  house parties that tanya & her friends put on.  they used christmas lights
  for the "light show".  the vibe was thick & the price was right :)  >>
 
 What's uP fellow victor house kid! haha.. Those were By Far some of the 
 highlighted memmories I have about the cincinnati scene!! (( The fresh kids! 
 ))  I will forever cherish those times and vibes! 
 Also, this past summer at the ball fields.. I recall at least three dank 
 parties there..all for the sweet price of ten-fifteen dollars with excellent 
 talent... <3  too bad commercialism ruins these days.. >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
 purchase presale early to avoid waiting in line 
 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
 The Other Side.  (513) 671-5999
 Culture 7  (614) 297-0998
 
 Tons of Free give aways. Arrive Early
 
 Guest list is limited. Call (513) 272-2489 by Jan 20th
 
 This event is being held in a 100% Legal,Clean,Heated Venue.
 Do Not bring Drugs.Alcohal,Weapons,Markers or Bad Vibes
 Firm and Friendly Security will be on hand all night
 There will be Food and Drinks for sale all night
 
 Dj Hardware
 Hardware World/1Groove.com/FL
 
 DJ Hardware has started his mission to conquer the world. From spinning at 
remote outdoor raves, and warehouse parties to headlining major events across 
the globe. Hardware is taking his unique style of mixing to the masses. 
Whether it's hard trance, funky breaks or acid-house, he's a force to be 
reckoned with when it comes to energizing a crowd. 
 
 
 AK1200 
 P.A.M/Orlando,FL
 
 A true pioneer in  Drum an Bass in the US and UK.from being the first 
American DJ to play on UK pirate radio.To the '96 release of "you hear me 
talking". a breakthrough DnB tack for the masses. He continues to headline 
clubs and raves Worldwide. Dont miss the Sweet DnB sounds AK1200
 
 Dj Bam Bam
 UC music/Contaminated/Chicago IL
 
 Whether its in the studio making rave anthems and setting new standards in 
producing or dropping the tight blends that make the dancefloor bounce with 
the  nasty scratching that leaves onlookers' jaws drop, DJ Bam Bam has 
established himself to be a top DJ not to be missed
 
 Twilight Sleep  Live P.A
 Zeropoint Records/Cincinnati
 
 This 5 piece live drum an bass orchestra is gaining world recognition at 
warp speed.The only thing better than hearing these guys play is watching 
them do it Live!!!
 
 Nathan Profit   Live P.A
 Two Tigers/Columbus
 
 Creating some of the most amazing trance sounds in the Midwest.come watch as 
he opens your mind,body and soul Live!!!
 
 Infinite Grey  Live P.A
 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
back to start off the year.Check the tech house wizard as he brings it back 
Live!!!
 
 Negative Zero  Live P.A
 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
 Columbus's best kept secret. This is a debut performance you dont want to 
miss. as he produces his own unique hybrid of trance and breaks.
 
 React
 Subsonik/Cincinnati
 
 React is the man behind Subsonik and driving force in the underground. come 
check out his funky, pounding techno selections that rock the crowd into a 
frenzy.
 
 Matt Freeman
 Octane/Dayton
 
 Finishing up a new mix cd.Matts versatile House sounds and skills take him 
to Detroit for New Years and Australia in April and then off on a US summer 
tour.Come Matt as he brings down the House!
 
 Main Info Line:
 (513) 588 9479
 e mail: jomamaproductions@cinci.rr.com
 
 Support Lines:
 
 Two Tigers (614) 232-6677 -Columbus
                  (216) 485-7777 -Cleveland
 FlashPoint (937) 229-9203 -Dayton
 Subsonik (513) 682-3282 -Cincy
 Digital 54  (216) 556-2969 -Cleveland
 
 Check Out our website
 www.jomamaproductions.homestead.com
 
 www.2tigers.org
 www.hyperreal.org
 subsonik.linenoiz.com
 
 madd thanks to anyone who has ever supported us


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com


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i've been to some nice victor st. basement parties which i guess were (insert name)'s. far better
imo were the patio parties at chris's old place on victor. 

then again, i think rave music rubs. who cares?



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This Saturday: John Stossel TV Report Assails Government.

    Mark your calendars! Tell your neighbors! And get ready for a
    treat.

    "John Stossel Goes to Washington" airs Saturday January 27 at
    10pm EST on ABC. And it sounds like Stossel's most sweeping
    libertarian show ever -- a hard-hitting assault on the worst
    aspects of Big Government. Look for some leading libertarian
    celebrities on the show, too.

    For years, Stossel was a consumer reporter, exposing
    businesses that ripped off consumers. Now, in this hour-long
    special, he does a consumer report on *government,* the
    biggest rip-off artist of them all.

    Stossel exposes programs that squander money, and examines
    insane rules and regulations. Stossel visits the center of
    government, and finds out just how bad the waste,
    incompetence, and abuse of power is.

    (Some government officials aren't eager to talk about the
    problems -- get ready to see then-Secretary of the Interior
    Bruce Babbitt walk out of an interview with Stossel.)

    Stossel will show how, over the past 60 years, under both
    Republicans and Democrats, government has grown so sharply
    that it now costs the average American $10,000 per year in
    taxes to pay for it.

    Stossel talks to tax expert Amity Shlaes, who notes that
    "Americans pay more in taxes than we do in food, clothing and
    shelter combined."

    And libertarian philosophy professor Tibor Machan tells
    Stossel that's not what the framers of the Constitution
    wanted: "The Founders tended to believe that government
    should be restricted. It should be limited to the function of
    securing our rights."

    Compounding the mess, government can't even keep track of
    much of the money, Stossel shows.

    Much of what government does do, it does poorly, finds
    Stossel. The Interior Department spent billions to help
    Native Americans, but Indians are the poorest people in
    America. Billions more have been spent on centrally-planned
    public housing, but instead of safe homes, low-income
    families often end up with dilapidated buildings where
    elevators don't work and security is poor. Charities complain
    that government rules make it tougher to help people. Today
    "if Jesus Christ... wanted to start Christianity, he wouldn't
    be able to do it," says Mimi Silbert, who runs a mutual aid
    network in San Francisco, "because there are too many
    regulations."

    Despite government's failures, Stossel points out that it
    continually seeks more power, whether on a local scale --
    such as seizing homes under the auspices of urban renewal --
    or on an international scale, intervening militarily in over
    a hundred countries.

    What's the alternative? Stossel finds private organizations
    taking over formerly government-run functions and doing the
    job better. Competition -- sorely lacking in government
    monopolies -- gives these private companies an incentive to
    guarantee such necessities as clean water, and flights that
    actually arrive on time.

    Professor. Machan sums up things pretty nicely: "Government
    was intended to have a few, clearly-defined functions such as
    running the courts and the military, and it would do it much
    better if it didn't do all this other stuff that it has
    gotten its nose into."

    Sounds like don't-miss television for libertarians -- and for
    everyone else. Tell your neighbors!

    (Source: ABC News media release)



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Subject: Re: [mw] [VRR] future of the scene?

doubtful. and if so, not for quite sometime of which i'd figure out space
travel by then.

the difference is look at the base that each are built on. parties - some
venue with dodgy security, may be permits, many firehazards awaiting to be
shut down. club - an established venue, with established hours, established
security (dodgy or not), regular attendees and most often a minimum age
(nothing against the young here).

and yet for some reason when people throw a party in a club it gets
shutdown, and each time i see due to max capacity. one things clubs in our
town lack, but oh well. once the next generation of clubbers come along sick
of prince and eminem dance mixes in seek of a newer beat to move by, your
rave music today becomes the accepted dance music. and the clubs will adjust
according to audience size and stability of your "scene".

or something like that



On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Gabriel Hylander wrote:

> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:01:53 -0800
> From: Gabriel Hylander <gabriel.hylander@amd.com>
> To: oeb <oeb@invisiblesounds.net>
> Subject: Re: [mw] [VRR] future of the scene?
>
> >
> >
> > And you're from SF! You have REAL clubs, why complain?
>
> that one is easy.........once we let them take away one right, they
> will take the next and the next..............
>
>


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 >TekkgirIie@aol.com writes:
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 >youth... I
 >will search the world for it..alone.. or with my love. >>

 >Son316east@aol.com wrote:
 >i have found the fountain of youth...

<*cut snip ignore*>

jeeze help me, i'm responding to a stevie t post...
anyway, the fountain of youth is in florida.  i went there over christmas 
break... costs like 5 bucks to get in & if you want to, & you can drink the 
water from the fountain.  i didn't 'cos it's just sulfur water, but hey, 
whatever works.  there's even this planetarium, a big plaque thing that 
explains the history of the fountain of youth, a swamp, & a bunch of random 
peacocks.  uhm... yep.  that's all.
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shawne@zoomtown.com writes:

<< she hated meaghan when meaghan started dancing. ]
Come on stevie, argue with me on that one. >>

i stand correct...i spoke with leidra last night...she
never had a problem with meaghan dancing (which
has got to be the most retarded thing any one can
claim to begin with)...as usual, you're full of shit shawne
...she does however, have a big problem with you
putting words in her mouth...suffice it to say, further
responses from you should only amount to the 
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nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< Stossel exposes programs that squander money, and examines
     insane rules and regulations. Stossel visits the center of
     government, and finds out just how bad the waste,
     incompetence, and abuse of power is.
 
     (Some government officials aren't eager to talk about the
     problems -- get ready to see then-Secretary of the Interior
     Bruce Babbitt walk out of an interview with Stossel.)
 
     Stossel will show how, over the past 60 years, under both
     Republicans and Democrats, government has grown so sharply
     that it now costs the average American $10,000 per year in
     taxes to pay for it. >>

you wanna talk about waste of tax payers money...
do you know how much time, money, and energy
was wasted on that whole monica lewinsky scandal?!
...in the end it just made the US look that much dumber
at the expense of the US taxpayers money!!...or how 
about the $60 billion dollars they're gonna throw down
for that missile defense system (of which, it probably
only costs $30 billion to really build, but you know how
they always jack the prices way up for the government)
...a $60 billion dollar missile defense system that noble
prize winners and world leaders all over have predicted
would re-initiate the Cold War and pull us that much closer 
to nuclear armageddon!!

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I say we take this topic back to what it was intended as.....  Talking
about hot chix. :)

Enuf already!!

Son316east@aol.com wrote:

> shawne@zoomtown.com writes:
>
> << she hated meaghan when meaghan started dancing. ]
> Come on stevie, argue with me on that one. >>
>
> i stand correct...i spoke with leidra last night...she
> never had a problem with meaghan dancing (which
> has got to be the most retarded thing any one can
> claim to begin with)...as usual, you're full of shit shawne
> ...she does however, have a big problem with you
> putting words in her mouth...suffice it to say, further
> responses from you should only amount to the
> increasing pile of dung you already have over your
> head...
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yeah, chicks are kool :)

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At 06:19 PM 1/26/01 -0500, Son316east@aol.com wrote:
>hehe...i think you'd like to get meat from my roommate...he's
>6.5" and just got out of jail for gross sexual imposition...not the first time
>either...lol, ironically since he has a shaved ass...he
>looks like a sailor...but he's not...he just likes to
>lick ass...

wow!  who's your "roommate" ?

mk

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michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< wow!  who's your "roommate" ?
 
 mk >>

i always knew you were gay, michael.

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Son316east@aol.com writes:

<< i always knew you were gay, michael.>>

and hate to break your heart, michael, but
both of us are straight...so we don't go your direction.
 
 

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>and hate to break your heart, michael, but
>both of us are straight...so we don't go your direction.

*yawn*  i chink you were trying to be funny, but i might be wong.

get back to your man, it's friday nite why aren't you payin him proper 
attention?

the stevie t releationship counselor,
mk

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jes's private message was really a wake up call to me... there is too much
shit talking on this list, and countless people are guilty of treating
others terribly disrespectfully (myself not excluded...

this has been going on for awhile, and i havne't said anything because...
well, i feel like i used to talk too much without backing words up with
action. got down on myself, and for quite awhile was in a sort of personal
hell that was only amplified by the circumstances in my personal life.  
to the point where i wouldn't get out of bed at all some days.

mw-raves got so bad over the past months that instead of dealing with the
bullshit that was going on, i simply unsubscribed for periods of time...
this led to me feeling like i didn't even really belong on the list,
that there wasnt' really a place for me in this group i had let become
such a huge part of ME... so that should tell you something about how i
felt about being the admin.

i was very lost.

not too long ago, i had a good talk with mommy about everything that's
going on with me, and i'm doing very well thank you... finally working,
getting a handle on promises i've made, and trying to get my act together
as far as my entire being goes... though i feel like i still have a lot of
work to do.  it can be overwhelming at times.

that said, i'm not sure what to tell you people...  a lot of you
need to adjust your attitudes... yes *CHANGE* as we all tend to do from 
time to time... people who think it's ok to post all day without regard
for content need to keep yourselves in check.  if you can't do that, 
you may have a place in my heart, but not on this list.

abuse will no longer be tolerated.

ALL THESE RESOURCES ARE DONATED BY PEOPLE OTHER THAN
YOU *FOR YOU* AND IT'S EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL TO THINK THAT IT'S YOUR
RIGHT TO ABUSE THIS LIST AND THE PEOPLE ON IT THE WAY YOU DO.

i feel that part of the reason there's so much konfusion is that we all
have different ideas of what mw is and not enough focus on what it
should or could be... why fear having nothing to talk about when you know
you could be out doing?      

all mw-raves is now is a huge group of people wasting time and energy.
change it, or it will soon cease to be.  fact, not threat.

chad 

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Subject: [mw] after focusing on the bad...

i'd like to thank those who stick it out and really do try to make this
list worthwhile for everyone... you know who you are.

we're not worthy.

chad 


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McDonald's has a McVeggie now. I wonder if it is as good as the European one.

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> all mw-raves is now is a huge group of people wasting time and energy.
> change it, or it will soon cease to be.  fact, not threat.

chad... I'm sorry, but just like you were 6 months ago or whenever you
threatened to kill the list before, you're completely out of line
here.  

As far as I'm concerned, you waived any sort of authority you had on this
list when you unsubbed and passed administration duties on to adam and
matt. 

Even if you hadn't left the list for god knows how long, shutting it down
or threatening to shut it down has NEVER been something your position as
admin has given you the right to do.  This is a community list.  You
obviously don't feel a part of the community anymore.  You left.  You
can't just come back and decide that because you don't like what the list
has become you're going to get rid of it. 

If you don't like what's become of things, leave.  No need to worry about
finding a new admin - we already have two.

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From mw-raves-return-15748-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 27 05:32:58 2001
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Subject: [mw] KRAFTY BEATS - 1-27-2001 - TOMORROW!!! - ALL HARDCORE PARTY -
  DAYTON, OHIO - UPDATED DIREX

          .===============================================.
            A M E R I C A N   C H E E S E   P R E S E N T S
           .===============================================.
                ||      K R A F T Y   B E A T S      ||
                ||      -----------------------      ||
                ||          JANUARY 27, 2001         ||
                ||             DAYTON, OH            ||
                ||           $10 @ THE DOOR          ||
                ||        DOORS OPEN AND MUSIC       ||
                ||           STARTS @ 10PM           ||
                ||___________________________________||
  _______________\===================================/_______________
//                                                                 \\
||                                                                 ||
||  In January of 2000, a fledgling rave promotion company known   ||
||     only as American Cheese Productions brought Columbus a      ||
||    new kind of event - an event focused on the happy sounds     ||
||   of hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up jungle.  Unfortunately,    ||
||      circumstances prevented the planned follow-up events       ||
||   from ever happening, and central Ohio was left with a void    ||
||                  where hardcore was concerned.                  ||
||                                                                 ||
||     One long year later, American Cheese has been reborn -      ||
||     not as a rave production company, but as a network of       ||
||     happy hardcore DJ's and producers throughout the mid-       ||
||    west and east coast.  To celebrate the launch of our new     ||
||         website (www.americancheese.org), we present a          ||
||        showcase of our core members, along with our very        ||
||    special guest DJ VIRUS, all the way from Toronto, Canada.    ||
||                                                                 ||
||    Capacity is extremely limited for this intimate evening of   ||
||     hard and happy sounds.  If you aren't coming out for the    ||
||  music, please go somewhere else.  ROAR will be in full effect- ||
||         shady thugs and drugs are unwanted & unwelcome.         ||
||                       SMILING FACES ONLY!!                      ||
||                                                                 ||
\\=================================================================//
  ||                          L I N E U P                          ||
  ||===============================================================||
  ||     DJ VIRUS - (purerave.com - Toronto) - HAPPY HARDCORE      ||
  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
  ||                 MICHAEL KNIGHT - HAPPY HARDCORE               ||
  ||              (American Cheese - Chicago/Columbus)             ||
  ||                               vs                              ||
  ||                   AC SLATER - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
  ||  (American Cheese/WickedStreak - West Virginia/Philadelphia)  ||
  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
  ||                      DJ EOR - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
  ||                  (American Cheese - South Bend)               ||
  ||                               vs                              ||
  ||                    JOHNNY P - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
  ||           (American Cheese/Evil Twin - Indianapolis)          ||
  ||                               vs                              ||
  ||                    DJ HOCUS - HAPPY HARDCORE                  ||
  ||                  (American Cheese - Columbus)                 ||
  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
  ||    D.J. TANNER - (American Cheese - Cincinnati) - HARDCORE    ||
  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
  ||DJ KITCHEN SYNC - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE||
  ||---------------------------------------------------------------||
  ||    DJ NIMBY - (American Cheese - Columbus) - HAPPY HARDCORE   ||
  \\===============================================================//
   ||                           I N F O                           ||
   ||=============================================================||
   ||    January 27, 2001 @ Antioch College [near Dayton, OH]     ||
   ||             I N F O L I N E : (614) 470-2064                ||
   ||       W E B S I T E: http://www.americancheese.org          ||
   ||                                                             ||
   ||                   DIRECTIONS TO THE EVENT                   ||
   ||   The event is taking place at the dance space at Antioch   ||
   ||    College in scenic Yellow Springs, Ohio - just minutes    ||
   ||                 from the Dayton, Ohio area.                 ||
   ||                                                             ||
   || Find INTERSTATE 70 - this is a major east-west highway that ||
   ||runs across the entire country. Please consult your favourite||
   ||     map source and get to I-70, then head towards Ohio!     ||
   ||                                                             ||
   || The exit you need is EXIT 52-A. This is just east of Dayton.||
   || EXIT at EXIT 52-A and head SOUTH on ROUTE 68 - you will be  ||
   || travelling towards xenia and yellow springs. About 6 miles  ||
   ||down the road you will enter Yellow Springs and ROUTE 68 will||
   ||           become XENIA AVE - this is the main street        ||
   ||                    through Yellow Springs.                  ||
   ||                                                             ||
   ||Go through downtown to the 2ND TRAFFIC LITE - turn LEFT onto ||
   || EAST LIVERMORE ST -Turn RIGHT onto PRESIDENT ST - this will ||
   || lead you directly to the venue. The dance space is upstairs ||
   || in the student union at Antioch College. Plese find parking ||
   ||  outside the venue or on the streets in the immediate area. ||
   ||                                                             ||
   ||  Doors open at 10pm - travel safe and get there early!! :)  ||
   ||                                                             ||
   ||   $10 at the door - NO WEAPONS, DRUGS, MARKERS, SPRAYCANS   ||
   ||     NO SHADY INDIVIDUALS! YOU COME TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL     ||
   ||   HARDCORE SCENE, NOT TO GET FUCKED UP! RESPECT THE VENUE   ||
   ||  AND RESPECT THE TALENT...CENTRAL OHIO DOES NOT GET ENOUGH  ||
   ||      EVENTS LIKE THIS! PLEASE DO NOT DISAPPOINT US! :)      ||
   ||                                                             ||
   ||                Lights and Sound provided by:                ||
   ||           Sensorium, Columbus, OHIO (614) 451.5601          ||
   ||                                                             ||
   ||    Respect to all who are keeping hardcore alive in Ohio    ||
   ||        Come out and support us! We'll see you there!        ||
   ||_____________________________________________________________||
   \\=============================================================//

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From mw-raves-return-15749-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 27 05:58:53 2001
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 chrise@pubnix.org wrote:

+chad... I'm sorry, but just like you were 6 months ago or whenever you
+threatened to kill the list before, you're completely out of line
+here.  

i'm not saying i'll kill it... i'm saying it will die. 
i guess, if stevies not allowed to make predictions neither should i. 

+As far as I'm concerned, you waived any sort of authority you had on this
+list when you unsubbed and passed administration duties on to adam and
+matt. 

i'd like to hear other opinions on this... i feel i'm fully capable now 
and more than deserved the week or two total away from the list.  i
couldn't stay away for very long.  forgive me. 

+Even if you hadn't left the list for god knows how long, shutting it down
+or threatening to shut it down has NEVER been something your position as
+admin has given you the right to do.  

we'd have to consult brian on that... but after the hearing your position
the first time it came up, i agree.

+This is a community list.  You
+obviously don't feel a part of the community anymore.  You left.  You
+can't just come back and decide that because you don't like what the list
+has become you're going to get rid of it. 

that's not what i was trying to imply, and i'm sorry if i made it seem
that way.  i realize i left.  call it a vacation, call it waht you want, i
tried to express my frustrations before that and it did no good... it was
really all i could do at the time. 

+If you don't like what's become of things, leave.  No need to worry about
+finding a new admin - we already have two.

... seeing as jes was the only person to give me any feedback on the job i
was doing, i acted on that.

i tend to get a little feisty when people tell me to be a "real fucking
admin".... as i have no idea what that means.  maybe you can tell me,
chris?  before that, as far as i knew i was doing a fine job, then all of
a sudden i'm being blamed for all the hate on the list?  i really don't
think that's fair.

by the way, adam and matt are moderators, not admins... i needed their
help because we were approving subscriptions manually.  but matt would 
certainly be next in line to get the admin job if he wants it.  

as far as i'm concerned, i'd still like be here... if you'll let me.

please keep in mind it's hard not to take these kind of comments
personally.  so go easy .  i love you people for real and just want to see
things work, you know?

help me figure out what's up.

chad
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http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/34.html

This is an interesting little article on the continuing war on 'fringe
movements'
conducted by the U.S. government.  I thought you might find this
interesting
given the recent anti-rave stuff using 'crackhouse laws.'  (I recall a
comment
being made that this is the first time since the 60s that a youth
movement has
been deliberately picked out and targeted by federal authorities.)

One of the things I find interesting is how both the right and the left
are viewed
now as threats to the establishment.  The police quote in this article
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Subject: [mw] mk = m.gay

proof positive that mk is gay from his own mssg board...

from http://www.americancheese.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000019.html...

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THATS IT!!!!!! WE NEED TO CREATE OUR OWN GOVERNMENT!!! WHERE WE CAN BE FREE 
TO EXPLORE THE GOD GIVEN RIGHTS OF LIVE LIBERTY AND THE PURSIUT OF A GOOD 
TIME!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO'S WITH ME?????????
THEY MAY TAKE OUR DRUGS BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!

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chad@hyperreal.org writes:

<< if stevies not allowed to make predictions neither should i. >>

huh?!...who said i'm not allowed to make predictions?!...the
beast doesn't control me yet...i fore-see that chad will get 
laid within a greenspan...eew, that sounded m.gay...okee,
i prophesize that chad will lose all his sorrows right after i
send out this other asian operative, i mean, hottie to jump 
his bone...see, i told ya yellow is the color of love!...hehe,
even michael's party is located by yellow springs... ; )
 
<>

um, i think by "real fucking admin", they meant you weren't
getting the "fucking" part right...have no fear, ole noble em 
double yer head...i gots help comin your way asap...you best 
make a trip to dat bodega and stock up on dem weenie 
beanies!...cuz u got some girls comin to cure your depression
affliction...

you a hater?!...um, no...don't let shawne go over there and 
joe-jitsu your ass for tryin to steal his job!
 
<< as far as i'm concerned, i'd still like be here... if you'll let me.>>

you asking permission to be on here?!...that's almost
as retarded as not letting the president in the white house
or beans at a party...everybody talks mad shit bout em,
but they still end up there anyways...what can i say?..
 
<<help me figure out what's up.>>

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jeez, why is everyone so neg???
what ever happened to PLUR... for those of you out there who forgot what that 
is... Peace Love Unity and Respect.... mellow out guys
peace out
nick

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umm....its called theres barely a legal venue inside of the city limits. And
the problem is that the cops know everything they need to know about a party
around here before it even happens. On New Years Eve day there was a message
on the CBS infoline that was basically someone forgot to hang up the phone
after the directions. It was the cops talking about how its going to be hard
to bust the party without there being a riot so they'll just make arrests
out in the parking lot and at the stores around the venue. When No Foolin
got busted in April, the cops told us that they know about every party that
is going to happen in the area cuz they look on hyperreal.com. So thats why
most of the shit that goes on in this area now happens at clubs or the
Dayton Gym Club, which has become some weird "Rave Safe-Land".

shawne

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> i totally agree!  i'm from cincinnati & i'd like to see some less
expensive
> parties, too.  some of the best parties here i remember were the free
victor
> house parties that tanya & her friends put on.  they used christmas lights
> for the "light show".  the vibe was thick & the price was right :)  i
think
> smaller parties create more depth to the culture.  larger parties seem to
> promote the commercialism of the scene.  there seems to be more dj's at
> clubs now, though & that's cool - like gravitybass & lift.  but there's
just
> something about a club that makes the whole experience a little less, you
> know?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Heather Garver" <hgarver@fuse.net>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:35 PM
> Subject: [mw] Cincinnati
>
>
> Does anyone else notice that there is rarely ever a party in Cincinnati
(or
> Dayton since most Cincy parties are there)  that is under $20 to get into?
> I enjoy some of the bigger parties and all, but there hasn't been a small
> (by that I mean 10 or 15 bucks a pop max and a maximum capacity of around
> 500-750 peeps) party in this city in quite some time.  There was one in
> December, but we all know who threw that and well, lets just say, he isn't
> too popular amongst the other promoters in the area, that and the fact
that
> it was busted before 2am.  Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there
and
> see what everyone else thinks.
>
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let me be scared...okay, I'm done.

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> shawne@zoomtown.com writes:
>
> << You know amanda, since Nathan, Chad, and I are going to be in Columbus
the
>  first weekend of March for the Gracie Family Jiu-Jitsu Championships
>  (especially since Nathan is competing in it now) maybe we'll have to
visit
>  all the strip-joints that Stevie is supposedly the pimp of and show him
why
>  there is no need for most of us to carry weapons. >>
>
> hehe...i think you'd like to meet my roommate...he's
> 6'5" and just got out of jail for fightin...not the first time
> either...lol, ironically since he has a shaved head...he
> looks like a skinhead...but he's not...he just likes to
> kick ass...
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dude, I was at No Foolin... the cops were basically dragging people around by 
their hair if they didnt do what they were told... 

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wow stevie, since those words came from meaghans mouth, I could really care
less. I knew little of Meaghans and Leidras connection until I asked Meaghan
about it, so I guess I got my words from what I consider a reliable source,
half the connection.

sniffin for the dung of mw-raves
shawne
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> shawne@zoomtown.com writes:
>
> << she hated meaghan when meaghan started dancing. ]
> Come on stevie, argue with me on that one. >>
>
> i stand correct...i spoke with leidra last night...she
> never had a problem with meaghan dancing (which
> has got to be the most retarded thing any one can
> claim to begin with)...as usual, you're full of shit shawne
> ...she does however, have a big problem with you
> putting words in her mouth...suffice it to say, further
> responses from you should only amount to the
> increasing pile of dung you already have over your
> head...
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ahhh...you beat me to that one. The Original Victor House. Some of the
people that played there would blow peoples minds now.

shawne
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> i've been to some nice victor st. basement parties which i guess were
(insert name)'s. far better
> imo were the patio parties at chris's old place on victor.
>
> then again, i think rave music rubs. who cares?
>
>
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: > for the record he is NOT my favorite....micah is
:
: yeah but you're so easily amused.
:

yeah true...but a big part of it...aside fromt he music thing...is that
micah is the only guy i have found that will actually fight back with me

-THE bitch iySyS-

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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: i want you to listen...

kick ass shawne...i wannna go to the jui-jitsu championships...can i come
???

-THE bitch iySyS-


"There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed up because you know
thing's can't get any worse." - Perry Farrell

: You know amanda, since Nathan, Chad, and I are going to be in Columbus the
: first weekend of March for the Gracie Family Jiu-Jitsu Championships
: (especially since Nathan is competing in it now) maybe we'll have to visit
: all the strip-joints that Stevie is supposedly the pimp of and show him
why
: there is no need for most of us to carry weapons.
:
: the corruptor of the whore of babylon
: shawne
:
:
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: -THE bitch iySyS- <baronessk@hotmail.com>
: To: <Son316east@aol.com>; <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
: Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:25 AM
: Subject: Re: [mw] Re: i want you to listen...
:
:
: > first i have spoke nothing that is not the truth...dealers do carry
: > guns...maybe not a good thing but it is the truth and i dont need your
: > all-mightly all-knowing ass to tell me what the scene is about...trust
me
: i
: > am well aware...and i can assure you i in no way represent any sort of
an
: > anti-christ figure...quite far from it actually...dont assume to know me
: or
: > what i am about by snide remark filled posts i place here, that is only
: one
: > aspect of my truely twisted persona :-)
: >
: > -THE bitch iySyS-
: >
: > "There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed up because you
know
: > thing's can't get any worse." - Perry Farrell
: >
: >
: >
: > : baronessk@hotmail.com writes:
: > :
: > :  << .i am about the furthest
: > :   thing you are going to find from a whore >>
: > :
: > :  well you are the evil one that posted about dealers
: > :  'packin'...you along with haters like shawne and michael
: > :  and the idiots who posts about 'spot da narc' and 'anti-rave
: > :  flyers by cops' is what is truly ruining the scene...when idiots
: > :  like this represent the scene, than new kids go...ohhhh we're
: > :  supposed to talk mad bullshit and take mad drugs here and
: > :  become dealers who pack guns!...brilliant!...not!...this is exactly
: > :  what the media wanted to stereotype upon us to begin with!!...
: > :  and every true head knows this scene was founded by DJ's and
: > :  NOT drug dealers!!...which are the true POSERS that are killing
: > :  our scene for their selfish and greedy means!!...
: > :
: > :  so by definition, you represent an anti-christ figure
: > :  to the scene...whore of babylon...not implying that
: > :  you are a whore...but from the abominations that you
: > :  spew from your blasphemous mouth...
: > :
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Subject: Re: [mw] Why I do this shit (vent)

for the record tim...i have been up for activ8 and i gotta say its a nice
club nite....not nearly as many peopel as id liek to see in that place but
its a great spot...nice club, cheap drinks, good people as far as i can tell
and the lady at the bar is funny as hell...also i love that firetruck thing
they got goin on...now granted im not a regular...but hell im not even a
regular at the local clubs...i just dont get out enough during the week

-THE bitch iySyS-


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: i must step in here (anyone surprised?)
: ive been to this weekly thing of his....and i must say that you people
: (everyone in driving distance of dayton, basicly) have absolutely NO
: appreciation for when someone is trying to do something POSITIVE for your
: local scene. now, im not gonna get all plurry on yall (thats pixie's job),
: but i am going to bitch you out for not at LEAST checking this thing out.
ive
: been a few times and i dont even live in ohio yet. GOOD dj's play, a few
: weeks ago kid entropy played, doug played last week, lots of wonderful
: locals, not to mention TIM who  puts this fukker together, runs the shit,
and
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: mw-raves is not a forum to exclusively spew political rants and verbal
: violence.

damn take away my vebal violence and ill have to resort to the physical kind

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: I guess my only request would be that people tag
: their e-mails with
: [NRR] non rave related
: [SRR] sorta rave related
: [VRR] very rave related
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NO !!

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i gotta say that this change from raves to small club/bar events is a move
that doesn't upset me in the least.  i would hope that some of the
"traditional" midwest large events (you know what i'm talking about)
continue to happen, but as far as parties where i wouldn't mind if 80% of
the djs booked were in dj funk's trunk and never showed are gone and i
couldn't be happier.

-t

ps - heh, the only downside is that i took a nap and just woke up and its
2:43 and i'm bored and everything is closed!

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Murphy
Subject: Re: [mw] so...


> on a lighter note...
> WHOS RAVING THIS WEEKEND?

    I'm raving so hard! I'm raving so hard! er, wait, no, Minneapolis dried
up. Seriously, stupid promoters did stupid things to all the good venues and
now we're up shit creek, gone from a big party or two every weekend to one a
month if we're lucky. I'm going dancing at a coffeeshop/bar/club place
tonight featuring guys that run the local record shop. Welcome to the end of
an era, minneapolis.

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: i HOWEVER, have done pixie in the butt.....spread that on your honey wheat
: with your ky-jelly rumors...
: <3laura
:

she has !!! i have video !!!

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From mw-raves-return-15767-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 27 09:20:17 2001
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OMGPLURLOL - i think that should be a word.

my statement on all this business - and i'll leave it to just this unless i
feel like i saying more or for some reason this moves things to another
level of discussion.  You will never be able to put this list inside a box
like you can a "german shepherd breeding" list - the "rave experience" (ugh)
is nothing like seeing brooks and dunn at the local amphitheater.  its a
rich environment with lots of elements and kinds of people involved in
different aspects and extents.  Like it or not, shady promoters and the
sleeziest fo drug dealers are just as much a part of "the scene" as the 12
year old first timer and the 28 year old cynic (hey, that's me!).  We all
bring our own experiences to the table, and mw is the result.  There should
be more focus to make the list more what *we* want and less what it *should*
be.

There's a fine line between hate speech and ryled up political ideological
posts. And some people are a little better at expressing email sarcasm than
others.  I realy hope, however these issues are finally resolved, that we
deal with this as a family of people with differences that are OK than with
a guilty/innocent verdict, moving onward with more rules style of judgement.
This is not a courtroom, its thanksgiving dinner, and part of the experience
is that sometimes uncle bob drinks too much and swears at the football game
on TV and grandma gets upset and goes to her room to pray.  

I've said this before, but i like this list because it is challenging.  Its
a 24 hr/365 days a year stand up routine done by the mw-improv group with
rotating membership.  If the list is slow, i *miss* you guys.  Sometimes it
makes me post something dumb, but its comparable to calling a friend and
saying "hi, i was thinking about you (all 600 or so of you) and i just
wanted to, ummm, ask if you were still funny - cause i am."

looking, anyway,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [mw] state of mw-raves


jeez, why is everyone so neg???
what ever happened to PLUR... for those of you out there who forgot what
that 
is... Peace Love Unity and Respect.... mellow out guys

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From mw-raves-return-15768-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Jan 27 09:47:16 2001
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*yawn*  thanks for visiting.

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 NOOOO!! It's been out in NY for awhile now, and it's nowhere as good as the euro one. The patty is mushy and has chunks of corn, peas, and carrots in it. It's like something your mom would have made you eat when you were a little kid.

Why can't someone just team up with Morningstar and make a decent veggieburger? Why, why, why???

erikka


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I am also pro-small venue. It usually means people who are total wieners won't bother to show up, and the music is usally better. 
I went to first avenue tonight, and the music was so....so....rave. It was like all those kids who used to be craked out in the corner rubbing each other up came of age and went out together. Plus, glowsticks were abundant. I need to find someplace else to go, there was some major skeezin' action going on.
erikka, the anti-plur
  Tony Sebion <tony@sebion.com> wrote: 
i gotta say that this change from raves to small club/bar events is a move
that doesn't upset me in the least. i would hope that some of the
"traditional" midwest large events (you know what i'm talking about)
continue to happen, but as far as parties where i wouldn't mind if 80% of
the djs booked were in dj funk's trunk and never showed are gone and i
couldn't be happier.

-t

ps - heh, the only downside is that i took a nap and just woke up and its
2:43 and i'm bored and everything is closed!

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Murphy
Subject: Re: [mw] so...


> on a lighter note...
> WHOS RAVING THIS WEEKEND?

I'm raving so hard! I'm raving so hard! er, wait, no, Minneapolis dried
up. Seriously, stupid promoters did stupid things to all the good venues and
now we're up shit creek, gone from a big party or two every weekend to one a
month if we're lucky. I'm going dancing at a coffeeshop/bar/club place
tonight featuring guys that run the local record shop. Welcome to the end of
an era, minneapolis.

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http://www.geocities.com/xwatchmakerx/headinfries1.gif

mk, bock bock

At 02:40 AM 1/27/01 -0800, you wrote:

>  NOOOO!! It's been out in NY for awhile now, and it's nowhere as good as 
> the euro one. The patty is mushy and has chunks of corn, peas, and 
> carrots in it. It's like something your mom would have made you eat when 
> you were a little kid.
>
>Why can't someone just team up with Morningstar and make a decent 
>veggieburger? Why, why, why???
>
>erikka
>
>
>   atomly@sprintpcs.com wrote:
>McDonald's has a McVeggie now. I wonder if it is as good as the European one.
>
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> > > > im sorry we annoy, but we persist
> > > if you know you annoy, and you're sorry, why do you persist?
> > I am sorry for anyone that is annoyed but im not sorry that I post
> 
> so you're sorry the same way you'd be sorry if some thug broke my arm,
> but not sorry the same way you'd be sorry if YOU broke my arm?
> that seems odd in this case, since the situation that you're sorry for
> arose as a direct result of your actions... i suppose you could argue
> that only i am ultimately responsible for my own state of 
> mind, and thus
> explain the distinction between this and the arm-breaking 
> scenario, and
> maybe you'd be right... but i don't think this petty argument 
> really warrants 
> a philosophical discussion of that magnitude.
i didnt provoke such a discussion.
and its not that I am sorry in that way.
I am happy and proud of breaking your arm because it was doing what i do.
i am sorry that you dont like your new style of bonework.
ie, im happy i post like i do and i dont give a damn if you dont like it
but you dont
so i assume a lot more people dont, and if it took you this long to bring it
up
then i'll see y'all later.
cause if you expect me to post like a "civilized" person, or be serious for
more than 2 minutes
about RAVE issues
then i can't do it.
so later kids.

> > if you dont like it, you are an admin, ask me to leave
> > i'll be gone before i can reply
> > 
> 
> you know as well as i do that that isn't the point at all... but even
> so, i don't get it... you'd leave if i asked you to, but you 
> won't slow
> down with the inane one-liners if i ask you to? that seems weird.
nah matt you are wrong.
i dont know as well as you do that that isn't the point at all.
i'll slow down with my one liners, no problem, but i have to be quick to
point out
that you have yet to ask me to do so.
I have to point out that I didnt post but once yesterday after your last
fatherly advice
type email.
I have to point out that "problems" with me can't and won't be corrected
unless I am made aware.
if i get on your nerves either get over it and yourself or tell me to shut
up
or better yet, wait another 5 minutes and watch my name drop from the
subscriber list.

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Subject: [mw] so thee baroness wants to pack, eh...

so thee baroness wants to pack, eh...

Forwarded Message: 
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 aquitaine1313@home.com writes:
 
 <<       >****************************************************
        >HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BILL CLINTON'S FRIEND?
        >James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an 
apparent
        >heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in 
Ken
        >Starr's investigation.
        >
        >Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at 
a
        >Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after 
she was
        >to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
        >
        >Vince Foster - Former white House councelor, and colleague of Hillary
        >Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to 
the 
        >head,
        >ruled a suicide.
        >
        >Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.  Reported 
to 
        >have
        >died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the 
investigation
        >reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull 
resembling a
        >gunshot wound.  At the time of his death.
        >Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness 
to cut 
        >a
        >deal with prosecutors.
        >
        >C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the
        >Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in 
        >July1992.
        >
        >Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found 
dead 
        >in
        >a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as 
a 
        >"Dear
        >friend and trusted advisor."
        >
        >Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in 
the woods
        >in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a
        >suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey
        >claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White
        >House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising
        >events.
        >
        >Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
        >Rock.  Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
        >Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier
        >on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information.
        >After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
        >
        >James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he 
had a
        >"Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who 
visited
        >prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
        >
        >James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging 
suicide.
        >He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
        >
        >Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was 
found dead
        >in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was 
ruled a
        >suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she 
was 
        >going
        >somewhere.  Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill 
Clinton in 
        >the
        >Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating 
witness 
        >for
        >Paula Jones.
        >
        >Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy
        >Ferguson.  Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was 
found dead
        >in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the 
gravesite of
        >his fiancee.
        >
        >Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater, died by 
jumping out
        >the window of a tall building January,1994. His client was a 
convicted drug
        >distributor.
        >
        >Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was 
related to
        >the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case.  He died of three 
gunshot
        >wounds.
        >
        >Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when she was
        >Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of 
the head,
        >ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
        >
        >Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 
until 
        >her
        >death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
        >
        >Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport 
and
        >Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, in
        >an apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.
        >
        >Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
        >Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet 
June 
        >22,
        >1993 in his Washington D.C. Apartment. Had delivered a report to 
Janet Reno
        >3 weeks before his death.
        >
        >Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
        >Corp.  Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment 
balcony
        >August 15, 1993 He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
        >
        >Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron 
Brown
        >and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996.  Her
        >bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department 
of
        >Commerce.
        >
        >Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John 
Huang
        >special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane 
crash.
        >
        >Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
        >Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small 
plane
        >crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory 
council
        >personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
        >
        >Johnny Lawhorn, Jr., Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill 
Clinton in 
        >the
        >trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his 
car hit
        >a utility pole.
        >
        >Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was
        >a purported suicide and his report was never released.
        >
        >Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994 
when
        >his plane exploded.
        >
        >Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The Boys on the Track" case.
        >Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Ark. operation.
        >A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to 
falling
        >asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been
        >slain before being placed on the tracks.  Many linked to the case
        >died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
        >
        >THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:
        >Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a 
truck,
        >July, 1988
        >Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
        >
        >Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
        >
        >Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash 
dump in
        >April 1989.
        >
        >James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his 
death was
        >due to natural causes.
        >
        >Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
        >pickup truck in June 1990.
        >
        >Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was 
killed in a
        >robbery July 1989
        >
        >THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
        >
        >Major William S. Barkley,  Jr.
        >Captain Scott J. Reynolds
        >Sgt. Brian Hanley
        >Sgt. Tim Sabel
        >Major General William Robertson
        >Col. William Densberger
        >Col. Robert Kelly
        >Spec. Gary Rhodes
        >Steve Willis
        >Robert Williams
        >Conway LeBleu
        >Todd McKeehan >>
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COCK COCK COCK COCK COCK COCK COCK COCK



ps: don't reply to this message, discuss the raves, im not a member
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At 06:10 PM 2001-01-26, matt hellige wrote:
>["Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>]
> >
> > if you dont like it, you are an admin, ask me to leave
> > i'll be gone before i can reply
> >
>
>you know as well as i do that that isn't the point at all... but even
>so, i don't get it... you'd leave if i asked you to, but you won't slow
>down with the inane one-liners if i ask you to? that seems weird.

not to speak for him, but i was in a similar situation in another 
electronic forum not too long ago (I can be a rather inflammatory bastard 
when you get me goin on something i care about), and I was given a choice 
by the administrator of said forum:

a) tone it down
b) leave

So I asked that he delete my account (it was an invite-only bbs) and I 
left.  Having to re-read every post to make sure it's spelling-error-free 
and won't offend anyone isn't what life is about.  It's about being 
yourself and either being loved or hated or somewhere in between for doing so.

-j


PS: i just typed this whole thing out then noticed the reply. that's what i 
get for reading mw a day late and a dollar short.


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tony@sebion.com writes:

<< i gotta say that this change from raves to small club/bar events is a move
 that doesn't upset me in the least.  i would hope that some of the
 "traditional" midwest large events (you know what i'm talking about) >>

um, i believe the change also has alot to do with the
weather and that many ravers also attend school...
once the weather gets better, the parties should start
sproutin again ; )

i think the only one crazy enough to throw a party now
is michael...speakin o which, for any far away travelers
drive carefully tonight...the roads are kinda slick out
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you just answered your own question."if they wernt doing as told"... i dont 
care how much of a thug ass G homeboy you are.. you aint shit but a crack 
head raver to a cop and they will treat u like one.

oneArcAngel4935@aol.com writes:

<<  the cops were basically dragging people around by 
 their hair if they didnt do what they were told...  >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
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Subject: [mw] Synchronicity TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

directions to follow  

Synchronicity
 January 27th 2001
 Dayton,Ohio.Earth
 Jo Mama Productions
 
 $20 pre-sale
 $25 @ door 
 Free if its your Bday. w/ proper ID
 purchase presale early to avoid waiting in line 
 and ensure entrance to the event
 pre sale available at
 
 ClubHead Records. (513) 665-9999
 The Other Side.  (513) 671-5999
 Culture 7  (614) 297-0998
 
 Tons of Free give aways. Arrive Early
 
 Guest list is limited. Call (513) 272-2489 by Jan 20th
 
 This event is being held in a 100% Legal,Clean,Heated Venue.
 Do Not bring Drugs.Alcohal,Weapons,Markers or Bad Vibes
 Firm and Friendly Security will be on hand all night
 There will be Food and Drinks for sale all night
 
 Dj Hardware
 Hardware World/1Groove.com/FL
 
 DJ Hardware has started his mission to conquer the world. From spinning at 
remote outdoor raves, and warehouse parties to headlining major events across 
the globe. Hardware is taking his unique style of mixing to the masses. 
Whether it's hard trance, funky breaks or acid-house, he's a force to be 
reckoned with when it comes to energizing a crowd. 
 
 
 AK1200 
 P.A.M/Orlando,FL
 
 A true pioneer in  Drum an Bass in the US and UK.from being the first 
American DJ to play on UK pirate radio.To the '96 release of "you hear me 
talking". a breakthrough DnB tack for the masses. He continues to headline 
clubs and raves Worldwide. Dont miss the Sweet DnB sounds AK1200
 
 Dj Bam Bam
 UC music/Contaminated/Chicago IL
 
 Whether its in the studio making rave anthems and setting new standards in 
producing or dropping the tight blends that make the dancefloor bounce with 
the  nasty scratching that leaves onlookers' jaws drop, DJ Bam Bam has 
established himself to be a top DJ not to be missed
 
 Twilight Sleep  Live P.A
 Zeropoint Records/Cincinnati
 
 This 5 piece live drum an bass orchestra is gaining world recognition at 
warp speed.The only thing better than hearing these guys play is watching 
them do it Live!!!
 
 Nathan Profit   Live P.A
 Two Tigers/Columbus
 
 Creating some of the most amazing trance sounds in the Midwest.come watch as 
he opens your mind,body and soul Live!!!
 
 Infinite Grey  Live P.A
 Linenoiz.com/Cincinnati
 
 He ripped up Riverfront this summer.Bass Reaction2 this winter and now he's 
back to start off the year.Check the tech house wizard as he brings it back 
Live!!!
 
 Negative Zero  Live P.A
 Jo Moma/Columbus
 
 Columbus's best kept secret. This is a debut performance you dont want to 
miss. as he produces his own unique hybrid of trance and breaks.
 
 React
 Subsonik/Cincinnati
 
 React is the man behind Subsonik and driving force in the underground. come 
check out his funky, pounding techno selections that rock the crowd into a 
frenzy.
 
 Matt Freeman
 Octane/Dayton
 
 Finishing up a new mix cd.Matts versatile House sounds and skills take him 
to Detroit for New Years and Australia in April and then off on a US summer 
tour.Come Matt as he brings down the House!
 
 Main Info Line:
 (513) 588 9479
 e mail: jomamaproductions@cinci.rr.com
 
 Support Lines:
 
 Two Tigers (614) 232-6677 -Columbus
                  (216) 485-7777 -Cleveland
 FlashPoint (937) 229-9203 -Dayton
 Subsonik (513) 682-3282 -Cincy
 Digital 54  (216) 556-2969 -Cleveland
 
 Check Out our website
 www.jomamaproductions.homestead.com
 
 www.2tigers.org
 www.hyperreal.org
 subsonik.linenoiz.com
 
 madd thanks to anyone who has ever supported us

Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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Address of the Venue:  117 Helena Street.
From-
-----Chicago/Indy:  65 South to 465 to 70 East to 75 South to Exit 56 Stanley 
Ave.(West). Turn right and follow to Helena Street.  The venue is on the 
corner of Stanley and Helena.  It is called the Island Roller Dome. 
-----Detroit:  75 South to Exit 56 Stanley Ave.  Turn Right.  Follow to 
Helena, Follow General Directions. 
-----Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Columbus:  70 West to 75 South to Exit 56 Stanley 
Ave.(West). Turn Right.  Follow to Helena.
-----Louisville/Lexington/Cincinnati:  75 North to Exit 56 Stanley 
Ave.(West). Turn Left, Follow to Helena. It is on the corner of Stanley and 
Helena.  
If you live somewhere not mentioned in our directions, go to maps.com and 
make sure to type in the address of the venue:
117 Helena Ave. Dayton, Ohio.

Doors open at 9p.m., if you want to be assured to get in.  Presales go in 
first.  The party starts at 10p.m. Headliners start at midnight.  TRY TO GET 
THERE EARLY! No markers, open containers, drugs, etc.  Don't be stupid! You 
wouldn't want to ruin others fun! ROAR in full effect.  Respect the venue and 
others.  Friendly but firm security.


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com

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At 04:20 AM 2001-01-27, Tony Sebion wrote:
>If the list is slow, i *miss* you guys.  Sometimes it
>makes me post something dumb, but its comparable to calling a friend and
>saying "hi, i was thinking about you (all 600 or so of you) and i just
>wanted to, ummm, ask if you were still funny - cause i am."

GO TONY!@#!@#

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Subject: [mw] for chad...thee tribulation...

here chad, this may help explain things...from earthchangestv.com...

January 27, 2001   
Ring of Fire Lights Up and Its Effects On Us 

by Mitch Battros (ECTV) 

There have now been reports of earthquakes and volcanos active in different 
areas of the world. We also know there have been at least three M-Class 
flares and three rapid fire CME's in the last 72 hours. Is there a 
connection? Research suggest yes! Is there a connection to a vast increase in 
NEA's (near earth asteroids) and meteors? Again research suggest yes! 

What does this all mean? Perhaps we will need to turn towards ancient text to 
find some answers. What several disciplines suggest is we are evolving as a 
species and as a universe. In other words, we are witness to a nature 
unfolding of earth and spirit. The Mayans and Aztecs speak of these very 
times. It has been mentioned we will all be taxed (some may say tested) as to 
our spiritual foundation. Our emotions and feelings may be distorted and 
shifting. How this is likely to manifest will be through whatever our own 
personal defense systems may be. 

For example, if you have used anger as one of your favorite stand byes when 
you are off balance, confused or in some way feeling incompetent, then you 
will likely be challenged to deal with your anger issues or suffer the 
consequences. The same is true if your favorite defense is isolation. As 
events continue to escalate, you may find yourself starting to withdraw from 
your social settings Perhaps demonstrate symptoms of depression. 

We are all unique as individual people and spirits. It will be our personal 
journey to cope and resolve our own personal limitations as this apparent and 
natural unfolding continues. It is very important we choose to deal with 
these obstacles. It is meant for us to do just that. For those who are 
unwilling, or too frightened to walk through this adjustment period, may have 
a very difficult time. I would suggest to at least be open to this idea. Talk 
about it with like minded friends See if others are experiencing similar 
events and emotions as yourself. 

Knowledge will be extremely helpful to many. It dissolves the anxiety of the 
unknown. Helps give direction, balance and understanding. Now remember above 
all...in my most humble opinion, there is no one way. As events speed up, it 
will be more important than ever to follow your truth, not mine or anyone 
else. Seek and you shall find. Find what? Your Truth! 

This is the time many, including popular personalities, will be coming 
forward yelling...follow me, follow me as if they have some special or secret 
information. Be very cautious and discerning. Practice whatever it is that 
helps you remain grounded. Meditation, prayer, ceremonies, dance, yoga, 
exercise. The list goes on and on. Your part is to put your Nike hat on, and 
just do it! Blessings to all, Mitch 

Here are a few of the topics you will see on our breaking news page that 
indicates the ring of fire is indeed awake. 

Indian minister says earthquake toll is 5000 
Earthquake shakes Greece 
Moderate earthquake shudders through southern Mexico 
Mild Quake Shakes Western Japan 
Magnitude 5.2 Quake Hits Indonesia 
Geothermal Eruption Occurs In Rotorua, New Zealand 
Scientists warn of eruption as Philippine volcano puffs gas, ash 
Popo continues to erupt 
Geomagnetic Storms Continue 
Increase solar flare and CME activity 
Continued increase in meteor/asteroid activity 

Equation: 

Sunspots => Solar Flares => Magnetic Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream 
Currents => Extreme Weather

 

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Subject: [mw] afterhours for krafty/synchronocity

everyone who will be in dayton this weekend...dcp and dna labs are hosting
an afterhours at Sirens nightclub from 6am-12pm
even if you don't go to a party, you should go to the afterhours, it's very
cultural. heh.



djs are...
TAD!!!! DJ SLUCK!!! spinning goat ranch...or just trance, i dunno...come and
find out.
digital psykosis-trance
some zeke kid- happycore
soniq stylz- house/breaks
vinny bricks-um, i dunno
me- hardcore and/or ambient

direx are...from dayton raves-
75 s to exit 47, sirens is in the first plaza on the left..carrollton plaza.
from cincinnati- 75N to kettering moraine exit (47?)
from the left lane, make a U turn into west carrollton (it's legal) go under
the highway bridge,carrollton plaza is on the left. 937.866.6699 if you get
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["Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>]
> > you know as well as i do that that isn't the point at all... but even
> > so, i don't get it... you'd leave if i asked you to, but you 
> > won't slow
> > down with the inane one-liners if i ask you to? that seems weird.
> nah matt you are wrong.
> i dont know as well as you do that that isn't the point at all.
> i'll slow down with my one liners, no problem, but i have to be quick to
> point out
> that you have yet to ask me to do so.
> I have to point out that I didnt post but once yesterday after your last
> fatherly advice
> type email.
> I have to point out that "problems" with me can't and won't be corrected
> unless I am made aware.
> if i get on your nerves either get over it and yourself or tell me to shut
> up
> or better yet, wait another 5 minutes and watch my name drop from the
> subscriber list.

you make good points... i was frustrated by a lot of things the other day,
and i took it out on you, which i apologize for. i know how much it sucks
when somebody is irritated with you and they never mention it, and never
mention it, and then finally they're super fuckin pissed and they blow up,
and that's the first time you heard a thing about it... and i think i'm 
guilty of that in this case. it irritates me a LITTLE BIT when you post
a ton of inane shit, but i don't think that means you should unsub and i'm
very sorry that it went this far.

matt

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    You'll be glad you went to first avenue last night, the "event" at
liquid was busted by about 50 psycho cops that basically just assauted
everybody's rights and stamped the place out good. I have a feeling that's
the big shakeup minneapolis has been waiting for, things are gonna go one
direction or another now, but definitely aren't going to be the same.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> I am also pro-small venue. It usually means people who are total wieners
won't bother to show up, and the music is usally better.
> I went to first avenue tonight, and the music was so....so....rave. It was
like all those kids who used to be craked out in the corner rubbing each
other up came of age and went out together. Plus, glowsticks were abundant.
I need to find someplace else to go, there was some major skeezin' action
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Subject: [mw] MW Calendar

I don't know who does the calendar (Chad???)
but could you please correct the date for 
OMEN.

On the calendar it says March 3rd.  The 
correct date is February 3rd.

Thanks.


-Physix

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Invasion Presents: THE YEAR OF THE GOLDEN SNAKE=20
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The Chinese New Year is an important celebration all over the world. Legend=20
tells of a village in China, thousands of years ago, that was ravaged=20
by an evil monster one winter's eve. The following year the monster returned=
=20
and again ravaged the village. Before it could happen a third time,=20
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during which people visited with each other, exchanged gifts, danced, and at=
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tasty comestibles. During the New Year celebrations people do not=20
fight or be mean to each other, as this would bring a bad, unlucky year.=20

Dan Deliverance - Integrated Recordings - KS - Techno=20
This east coast transplant is no stranger to the midwest. =A0=20
With over 5 years of experience, he's spun for such=20
illustrious crews as D.C.'s Ultraworld, New Orleans' Freebass=20
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K-Step - La Mierda Recordings / PhysixBAM@aol.com - IN - vocal dnb=20
This Babylon Collective DJ's first Iowa appearance is sure to show you=20
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regional DMC finals. He's wowed crowds in Detroit, Chicago,=20
Toronto, Ohio and soon... Des Moines=20

Chris Xanthus - RaveAlarm / XcientForce - Boston - Trance=20
Be prepared to be taking on that journey of your dreams.=20
His music will take you to that beautiful place.=20

Justone - On the Floor Productions - IA CTY - Hard Techno/Electro=20
The Alley Cat resident House DJ will be changing it up a bit=20
with a special set of mind twisting hard beats.=20

nnothing - Invasion / EQualeyez / TJL - DSM - Techno=20
Get ready to move to his sick techno beat.=20

SLaPiNFuNK - Invasion / Smokin' Rabbi UK - Boston/DSM - dnb=20
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KERNEL SCURRY - Invasion - DSM - Happy Hardcore=20
Fast, Hard, Happy Beats. =A0Like a Shooting Star.=20

digitalkiller - Invasion - DSM - Trance=20
This resident trancer will take you out and back.=20

Aaron Altar - Iowa City - Techno / Acid trance=20

SOUND N LIGHTS=20
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$13 presale=20
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<< btw I'd like to mention that you remind me of every californian
 transplant I've ever met, myself included. Get over yourself, the mw is a
 much cooler place. >>

"yea, im from california, moving into the sticks.  california's cooler.  yea. 
 i think californias cooler, cause its california, and now im not in 
caifornia which is cooler"....california ravers piss me off a LOT.  slike how 
exactly do you think you're better?  because its a lot more mainstream?  
thats what makes the midwest dope, is its (was) underground, and only cool 
people went  (godspeed, midwest, godspeed).  aaron.

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 In NYC, Guiliani has basically made it illegal to dance in any venue that doens't have a caberet license--so it's sort of driven things back into the underground, more on the outlaw and private party tip. I could totally see Ventura pulling that sort of shit--everything that goes on in this town is about his salary.

I almost went to liquid last night,but now I'm glad I didn't. C'mon Mpls people, let's throw a party here that doesn't suck.

 

erikka


  Matt Murphy <murph@mr.net> wrote: 

You'll be glad you went to first avenue last night, the "event" at
liquid was busted by about 50 psycho cops that basically just assauted
everybody's rights and stamped the place out good. I have a feeling that's
the big shakeup minneapolis has been waiting for, things are gonna go one
direction or another now, but definitely aren't going to be the same.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
murph@mr.net

> I am also pro-small venue. It usually means people who are total wieners
won't bother to show up, and the music is usally better.
> I went to first avenue tonight, and the music was so....so....rave. It was
like all those kids who used to be craked out in the corner rubbing each
other up came of age and went out together. Plus, glowsticks were abundant.
I need to find someplace else to go, there was some major skeezin' action
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-t

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http://british.nerp.net/flyer.jpg

cute, isn't it?

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I think the liquor laws here are even stupider--last night, once again, I had a full drink taken out of my hands at 1 am. Is that supposed to prevent me from driving drunk, becuase it certainly didn't--I was way more wasted when I had to drive after slamming down one drink. So there!

erikka 


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-t

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<<You'll be glad you went to first avenue last night, the "event" at
 liquid was busted by about 50 psycho cops that basically just assauted
 everybody's rights and stamped the place out good. I have a feeling that's
 the big shakeup minneapolis has been waiting for, things are gonna go one
 direction or another now, but definitely aren't going to be the same >>

yea, we pulled up at around 12, which is when it had just got broke up i 
guess.  we were greeted with just a plethora of police cars...like shit, im 
thinkin like 20?  and not to mention 2 city busses clearly marked "police 
bus".  they threw a shitload of people in jail, mostly for being out past 
curfew.  shitty, huh.  its funny, we pulled up...almost started to think 
about parking, and kept driving like we had no intentions of going to it.  la 
le la de da de da...aaron.

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At 03:08 PM 2001-01-27, Tony Sebion wrote:
>yeah, when i was in NYC i was in a few bars that had big signs that said NO
>DANCING ALLOWED.  it was kinda strange, at least now i understand it.

there's this guy, jamie zawinski, who worked for netscape for a long time 
and now has (as it was described to me) 'metric assloads' of money, and he 
bought/is remodelling a club/bar thing in sf.  He's got an interesting 
write-up on all the different permits and such required to do it... an 
intriguing read, especially if your hate of your local government has 
become dim recently.

http://www.dnalounge.com/backstage/permits-index.html

-j


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>we were greeted with just a plethora of police cars...like shit, im
>thinkin like 20?  and not to mention 2 city busses clearly marked "police
>bus".

Where is Liquid now?  Is it still in the same neighborhood?
Why was it busted up so badly?  There had to be something else going on there 
to draw that kind of attention from the cops.  How many people were there?  
Interesting...  I don't know that I ever saw anything like that happen in 
Minneapolis in a club.

-J

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ok look. i didn't mean to start all this crap. i just wanted an end to the
frightening propagation of misogyny and hatred that has populated the list
as of late.

as for one liners: people make up mw. i am usually entertained reading the
conversations that play themselves out between friends of mine. i would be
sad if you guys left. i would be bored if the chatter stopped. i have
never minded sifting through noise to find information. this is when WAB
comes to mind. we are bored is an offshoot of pku specifically for people
who sit at their desks all day and want to exchange conversations, much
like what happens here on mw. perhaps it makes sense to start a sub-list
or something in that vein? everyone could sub to it, but there owuld be no
real moderation and perpetual exchanges would be its raison d'etre. that's
the only thing i can think of for now. it would cut down on the extraneous
mw traffic, and i bet a lot of the same people would be on it. i'd
probably sub, i get bored at work sometimes too. i enjoy reading micah,
tony, michael's and whoever's special insight that makes me laugh or smile
many times through the course of my day. then maybe there wouldn't be
several posts a week on mw from newbies saying they like the list but just
don't have time to keep up. 

as for the admin: chad, it really disappoints me that you unsubbed several
times from the list you were supposed to be adminning. perhaps it is time
for a change of hands. an admin switch every 2-3 years is pretty
standard. you said yourself you burned out. why not pass on the
responsibility to matt and atom, have them co-admin like they've been
doing for a while? they work together, sit right next to each other
actually, it makes sense. and then chad, you may not feel so alienated
from the list anymore. it upsets me that you'll threaten to shut down the
list before you'll offer to pass on the admin duties to someone else. what
does that say?

aight, that's enough from mean. again, i apologize for starting all the
rukus, but things were getting out of hand with the spewing of hate and it
was about time someone said something about it. this list has already
lost a lot of people in the past year, whose contributions i felt were
very valuabl, because they were sick of putting up with bullshit. and now
we are on the verge of losing more. let's do something about it people.

/j




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    The reasons cited were lack of permits and firecode violations, but who
knows... it was pretty brutal...

Matt Murphy
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> Where is Liquid now?  Is it still in the same neighborhood?
> Why was it busted up so badly?  There had to be something else going on
there
> to draw that kind of attention from the cops.  How many people were there?
> Interesting...  I don't know that I ever saw anything like that happen in
> Minneapolis in a club.



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Does anyone know anything about Emotional Joystick?
ie..  Who it is, who created it?

I'm listening to it right now, and it's fucking amazing!!

Thanks,
-Jen


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this got a little long... bear with me if you please.

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Tony Sebion wrote:

+my statement on all this business - and i'll leave it to just this unless i
+feel like i saying more or for some reason this moves things to another
+level of discussion.  You will never be able to put this list inside a box
+like you can a "german shepherd breeding" list - the "rave experience" (ugh)
+is nothing like seeing brooks and dunn at the local amphitheater.  its a
+rich environment with lots of elements and kinds of people involved in
+different aspects and extents.  Like it or not, shady promoters and the
+sleeziest fo drug dealers are just as much a part of "the scene" as the 12
+year old first timer and the 28 year old cynic (hey, that's me!).  We all
+bring our own experiences to the table, and mw is the result. 

good point... but i don't think we're trying to put anything in a box
here.  if anything we're trying to expand on it, but it seems we're
straying away from the rave experience and getting more towards the
attention-starved cynic experience... i mean i haven't seen very many
party reviews as of late aside from the occasional, "i went to party a and
had a b kind of time."  whatever happened to details?

and as far as experiences go... this isn't mw-who'd-u-do.
though that is a pretty happy idea.

+There should
+be more focus to make the list more what *we* want and less what it *should*
+be.

i think people naturally focus on what they want... the problem on here is
they rarely give a fuck if it falls in line with what someone else wants.
for some reason they love getting under each others' skin... that's not
nice.

but, if no one wants to focus on what it should be, they can't be made to.

+There's a fine line between hate speech and ryled up political ideological
+posts. And some people are a little better at expressing email sarcasm than
+others.  I realy hope, however these issues are finally resolved, that we
+deal with this as a family of people with differences that are OK than with
+a guilty/innocent verdict, moving onward with more rules style of judgement.
+This is not a courtroom, its thanksgiving dinner, and part of the experience
+is that sometimes uncle bob drinks too much and swears at the football game
+on TV and grandma gets upset and goes to her room to pray.  

i'd agree with this... but some people are less willing than others to
work at it and some just flat out won't.  sorry for telling 
you to shut the fuck up a few nights ago, btw... drunk.  oh, and stevie
wonder made me do it (blind leading blind?)

there are no rules, and there's no real way they could be
"enforced" anyways... aside from banishment, and we all know i'm extremely
hesitant to do that. so how to reach a common ground?  the faq could
probably give us a clue.

i guess what i'm asking is that people are more receptive when someone
tries to appeal to their human nature... newcomers are instantly squashed
to the ground unless they already happen to know someone in the
vocal clique.  and it doesn't take much for other listmembers who've been
around to recieve this same kind of treatment.

sure, we think it's in jest, but there's real e-motion involved here.
should that be taken lightly?  i mean, what's wrong with at least making
an attempt to keep a level headed discusion going without blasting in
with some irrelavant noise?  perhaps if outbursts were less frequent,
they'd be more tolerable, but there's people who think they need to talk
shit EVERY SINGLE TIME.   
 
it's like if CaNdYcOaTedRaInDROPs@rollinraverdomain.com came in and asked
the time of the raving day, they would never get it simply because the
alternating caps are "annoying" and their domain name is slightly
amusing... this is the petty crap that people pay attention to?  
if taken to extremes, i'd argue this can cause serious damage but, you
know... everyone has an asshole. still, damage is damage.

these people never did anything to hurt us, they simply want a
genuine response to whatever their request is, yet they are consistently
attacked and made fun of.  there's no good reason for it and it's only
fitting that if people can't control their urge to lash out when
asked politely, then that lack of tolerance should be met
with umm...

what can we do about it? 

whisper words of wisdom?
let it be?

let rvkeller shoot them?

i'm at a loss.  simply telling people to have a sense of humor is not
enough, because that means so many different things to so many different
people and some of the things we say are downright nasty.  no one cares.

+I've said this before, but i like this list because it is challenging.  Its
+a 24 hr/365 days a year stand up routine done by the mw-improv group with
+rotating membership. 

not everything needs to be a challenge, and this stand up phenomenon comes
at the expense of other subscribers who would otherwise have something
informative to share... you know, like the ones who were here first?
these "routines" get so tired, so quickly. 

... if we want challenges, maybe it'd better to set up some real
goals as a group and be productive rather than constantly spitting sweet
globules of nothing in each other's ears.  or in each other's general
direction, anyways.  if i'm doing this now, i didn't notice.

not to say i don't enjoy the occasional sweet globule of nothing...
especially microwaved with raisins and maybe even a dash of that pee i've
been hearing too much about... mmmmm mmm.  i noticed it that time.

+If the list is slow, i *miss* you guys.  Sometimes it
+makes me post something dumb, but its comparable to calling a friend and
+saying "hi, i was thinking about you (all 600 or so of you) and i just
+wanted to, ummm, ask if you were still funny - cause i am."

IRC!!  people chilll on irc alll day, and it's reallly not that hard to
use... perfect for the instant online interaction some of you seem to
crave.  internet relay CHAT.  an e-mail list, however, is not set up the
same way... it's more conducive to sending larger chunks of data less
frequently.  http://www.mirc.co.uk... check it oot.  if there's
firewall issues, i bet you could trick your sysadmin into thinking it
would help you with your job.  if not, you shouldn't be chatting online at
work anyways ;)

by the way, there's just over 200 subscribers... and also, by
the way, unless craig still reads this, there are no former admins still
subscribed.  just an interesting tidbit.

i think a big part of the problem is that a lot of people think of
mw-raves as just what goes on on this mailing list, but there's irc, the
website, the calendar, netmeets and parties, the cam portal, of course the
people, and now that iffy groupedia.com archive (that kick ass one at
illuminati.nu doesn't seem to be there anymore :( )... but i'm sure
there's more to come.

i'd like it if these different aspects were tied closer together...maybe
even seamlessly, but at least a little less... umm... disfunctionally.
of course people choose their level of involvement, but certain people
just impose on this e-mail list when they could take their wacky antics  
elsewhere and still be just as involved.

i'd also like to get back to being a bit more concerned with our
signal:noise ratio... not saying we can't have our fun, but this group
generates a lot of content, and not all of it is just on the list. if
we could make it a bit easier to sift through, i bet we could find some
interesting/educational ways to present
it on the website. i'm talking about having some cake while you eat it.

we all complain about the negative image of the scene, and we're all
for the most part (at least imho, and despite my recent rant)
respectable ladies, gentlemenn, and other... why not present our ideas and
experiences as such and be somewhat consistent about it?  maybe find a way
to turn things around?

at any rate, the site's there, and the domain is paid for for another
year (danke steven j)... is there anyone seriously motivated enough to
help build it?  i've let my planned updates go for too long, and i know
now that i don't have the time, energy, and, to some degree, the knowledge 
to do it all myself... and who knows what else a project like this might
lead to?

a change of hands isn't the answer, real teamwork is.  
think about it... 

looking through you,
chad

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chad@hyperreal.org  
http://www.hyperreal.org/~chad

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    FACP  presents   EAT SWISS  January 27th Columbus, Oh.

                    With Special Guests, from Just Plain Positive
                     from Philadelphia, PA.
                      DJs:      
                    Hen Loc
                      Gehad
                    Atma
                        Bringing you the styles of : trace tech, house 
breaks, 
                        and rough drum and bass!

            Local DJs include: 
                                Jam Deuce
                                  Octane
                                spaztech
                                Shaggy Slim 
                                Jesse James
                                Core Roc
                              $5 AT THE DOOR
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Subject: [mw] If you're in Dayton tonight

Just so everyone knows, the afterparty for Synchronicity and Krafty Beats 
will be at Sirens.  Look for flyers, and directions will be on the flyers.

Featuring....

Digital PsyKosis
Green Tara
Vinny Bricks
Prophet Ezekial
DJ Soniq Stylz
DJ Sluck

Starts at 6 am, goes til 12...  $5 cover.  Juice, water, donuts, and more....

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
Denny's Creature Productions
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oops, did i just filter arcangel from my mailbox?

my gosh i think i did!

tell me, how many times must i do this? 4,935?

i'm going to play my hunch about your identitiy and say:

get a life, for the love of anything you still consider holy. whatever contributions you may have
made in the past are completely negated by the constant annoyance you present. 

please read that again until it sinks in. 

i've wasted enough time on you already, and will go back to ignoring you now. consider that this
is the 21st century you're living in here on our poor, blighted, overcrowded planet and nobody but
nobody needs your type of bullshit at this point, if ever. stop fronting; develop a consciousness
worthy of the aliases that you assume, instead of changing your email address more often than your
socks.
i sincerely hope that makes sense to you, although i'm not counting on it. and, on the off chance
you truly have no idea what i'm talking about, my apologies... but i think we all know better.


                                         -tjw




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I just wanted to say thanks real quick to everyone who replied.  My vent 
wasn't directed at anyone in particular, and I realize there are people out 
there who do support us.

I also realize that people work/have school in the morning,...  I'm in the 
same boat.  But if you are in driving distance (cincy/columbus/dayton....   
indy if we have a bigger act), come on out.  You won't find many venues this 
nice, and we always have good local/regional/national talent.

I also wanted to thank Trip (digital psykosis) and Tara, who also put in a 
shit-load of effort on activ8.  Tara's been there from the start, and 
basically got things going with people she knew.  Trip came in full-time when 
Tara was in columbus, and they both have taken some of the pressure off.  
Thanks.

Last, thanks to those who do come out.  I'm gonna regroup, pull in some 
favors, talk to some people, and coming in March you're gonna see some things 
that will make you want to come in.

I just would like to note, for anyone who views promoters in a shady light, I 
don't consider myself a promoter, and I haven't been paid to do this weekly 
since November.   And even then, I only was getting $25 a night.

meep

 - Soniq

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bang the box and take requests!"

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From mw-raves-return-15803-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Jan 28 00:32:22 2001
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Subject: [mw] [micah.topping@eds.com: RE: [mw] rvkeller]

forwarded because he asked me too...

m

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From: "Topping, Micah" <micah.topping@eds.com>
To: "'matt hellige'" <matt@immute.net>
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> you make good points... i was frustrated by a lot of things 
> the other day,
> and i took it out on you, which i apologize for. i know how 
> much it sucks
> when somebody is irritated with you and they never mention 
> it, and never
> mention it, and then finally they're super fuckin pissed and 
> they blow up,
> and that's the first time you heard a thing about it... and i 
> think i'm 
> guilty of that in this case. it irritates me a LITTLE BIT 
> when you post
> a ton of inane shit, but i don't think that means you should 
> unsub and i'm
> very sorry that it went this far.
thanks matt, no hard feelings man.
it is just a list
we are all friends here, there, wherever

im off, and i will be off, its only fair
if you all want to change the list to be something different, 
and if that something different is in fact what has been suggested
i will be in the way
not just from my past but i would intentionally be in the way
i would do everything i could to be as inane and annoying as possible
if i thought this list was going to become a symposium for only rave
related information
if it became an info-list instead of a social-list i would be hurt and upset
and THAT would be the only death of mw-raves that i could see happening

the list has always been my personal fuck you to the plastic-rave culture
while still encouraging and uplifting for the midwest culture
i love the midwest because shit seems more real, but maybe thats just
because
everything here is dirt and not cement and glass
i dont know, but the list to me was a great place, and i would rather stay
away than
see it become sf-raves or something else like that.

but its not my decision, it was only as much my list as anyone elses...but
im not a subscriber
and i dont feel like setting up a list of my own, so its irrelevant what i
think

no reason to apologize, no one has the right to cast yourself as a villian,
yourself included.
i had fun, but i can see that people want that kind of fun to stop and want
the list to change
im not gonna resist that, the fact that my friends are on this list and part
of the echelon of
control is the reason i left
be that ironic as it may
i dont want to get in the way of what people seem to want for mw-raves, and
i would if i stayed

so whatever..its your baby, feed it what you want.

micah

ps- because ps' are cool in email...please forward to the list
theres your closure

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On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, j3s wrote:

+as for the admin: chad, it really disappoints me that you unsubbed several
+times from the list you were supposed to be adminning. perhaps it is time
+for a change of hands. an admin switch every 2-3 years is pretty
+standard. 

jes, do you ever take vacation from work?  do you feel bad for it?  this
isn't even really a "job" i just sit here and read posts every now and
again like everyone else, the only difference is i control the list
software and am the list owner...  i think i've explained that a few times
before.

and no one said anything about any sort of time limits when i initially 
agreed to do this.  

+you said yourself you burned out. why not pass on the
+responsibility to matt and atom, have them co-admin like they've been
+doing for a while? 

like i said, they were moderating for awhile because everyone thought
stevie should be kept off the list.  they are not admins... i'm
not trying to be nitpicky, and i really appreciated their help in that
regard, but let's be clear about what's going on.

i'm no longer burned out, as i said before... i'm doing much better.

now, if people really cna't get passed the fact that i unsubbed for a
TOTAL of 2 weeks in the last few YEARS, well... please get over it.  i
didn't do anything wrong.  not to say i'd take that course of action
again, see what i'm saying?

besides, had there been real problems, i trusted i'd hear about them
anyways... i was on konfused, and at the time, jaimmie was subbed and
living with me.  i just COULDN't get away.

+they work together, sit right next to each other
+actually, it makes sense. and then chad, you may not feel so alienated
+from the list anymore.

i don't feel alienated anymore, unless you guys would like to drive me
away... then that'd be a whole different issue and you should tell me
what's really on your mind.  

we're all upset at this stage, so what's going on?  

do adam and matt want to be admin?  they haven't communicated this to
me... they said they'd do it if need be... do people want them to be?
i'm the last person to hear when people have problems... which is pretty
funny because i feel i'm a good listener.  

+it upsets me that you'll threaten to shut down the
+list before you'll offer to pass on the admin duties to someone else. what
+does that say?

for the last time unless i need to say it again, jes, i'm not going to
shut down the list... it says i'm reasonable and for the most part consult
the list first about things of that nature.

i've been nothing but dedicated to all that is mw, in fact i'd argue that
i'm one of the few who STILL views it ina mostly positive light... sure,
i've had my doubts at times, but i'll know when i really want to go.

you'll need to tell me if i'm supposed to go before that.

chad 

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On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, chad sponholz wrote:

+On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, j3s wrote:

+jes, do you ever take vacation from work?  do you feel bad for it?  this
+isn't even really a "job" i just sit here and read posts every now and
+again like everyone else, the only difference is i control the list
+software and am the list owner...  i think i've explained that a few times
+before.

and to further clarify "list-owner" is just me being technical... i don't
see it that way, but i am the one who'd be responsible for making
decisions in that capacity.  i'd, of course, consult you all before doing
anything rash.

and you know this, man!

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Y'know, I can hardly wait for this to happen.. So I can stop hearing about it every day.


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hey all...i am a bored as hell teen that lives on a gravel road 80 kajill=
ion
miles from nowhere somewhere in the trackless corn fields of the "great l=
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region of northwest iowa.  i am interested in taking on the almost imposs=
ible
task of creating a rave scene in my community of two tiny towns ("village=
s"
would describe them better) and a few small cities, since in every season=
 but
summer there is absolutely nothing to do here, and even during summer it'=
s
pretty dull.  does n e one that has experience w/ raves have some
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in case no one else noted, even the focus at parties is rarely on the music
anymore.  the outside influence is now impossible to distinguish from the
internal ones for the most part.  with the exception of any deeply involved
mw-ravers event, any party i go to is just more of what i expected - i could
easily just stay home and watch rave exposes on dateline with a bowl of
popcorn.  woo hoo! rave on, i guess not only will the revolution will be
televised, but it'l be in news magazine format with attractive hosts!

what's your favorite part about going to parties now?  not club nights, cuz
i've had plenty a good time at those lately, but RAVES.  if it wasn't teh
company you're with, then i gotta go to one of your  parties, because i know
if it wasn't for the people from this list (or people that have been/should
be on this list) the last few parties i've been to would've been no fun at
all.

is this a bit of an us/them attitude? you bet. i don't mean it to be an
"elite" status or anything, but you're either down or your not.  and this
goes way beyond any petty "what's your favorite dj" or "whos a sell out" or
even "trance is great/sucks"... its about "are you fun anymore?"  do you add
to the events that  you go to, or are you a life-sucking-raver, and just
leech off everyone elses vibe? (oh my god someone else would type something
plurry right now but i can't even make myself do that)

its been a few months since anyone has brought up e-burnout on this list,
and i think that the scene as a whole is a victim at this point.  i don't
think any common posters here feel the least bit conected with the average
party-goer anymore, which on one hand you can say is bad, cuz this is
mw-raves.  on the other hand, though, doesn't that say something about what
this is all about?  someone at this point needs to say something smart about
direction, goals, staying positive, or whatever, i dunno, i'm trying to
write this and get dressed to go out at the same time. 

in my mind, mw-raves has less and less to do with the rave scene as a whole
every day.  and i guess i assumed we wanted it that way.  the people from
here that i know ( ithink?) agree with me, and of course i can't tell what
people think that don't post.  frankly, not postig is almost the same thing
as not voting - your concerns are unheard and frankly i don't think it does
anyone any help to concern ourselves with this group of people that don't
want to get involved here anyway.

i dunno, this is really stream of consciousness, my hair is drying funny,
and i'm gonna be late.  

i apologize for making you read this.  unless you liked it.  i dunno.
delete key, will travel.

-t

ps - i figured there was more going on that i didn't know about when you
told me to shut up chad, so no hard feelings.  

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this got a little long... bear with me if you please.
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Greetings from JET SET ARTIST AGENCY!

We're busy, and we know you are too . . . SO . . . we going to cut the intro=
=20
and get to the matter at hand . . .  If anything you see below catches your=20
attention, use the contact details at the bottom to inquire . . .=20
____________________________________________________________
TOURS
  Murray Richardson=20
  Future Sound=20
  Soul Phusion=20
JET SET EVENTS
  Deep Thursday's at Mad Bar
  Winter Music Conference=20
STREAMING AUDIO AVAILABLE
   Mazi/Audio Soul Project
   Ron Carroll
ARTIST NEWS
   SPENCER KINCY aka GEMINI and JON LEMMON added to the Jet Set roster
   New Releases and updates from Hatiras, Jonene, Nathan Larsen, Dan Curtin,=
=20
and CZR
ARTIST PROFILE
    "Lucky Star" RON CARROLL . . . His latest track on Subliminal "The=20
Sermon" (It's about house music . . .) Has quickly reached anthem status . .=
=20
.Check his bio below to see what the buzz is!
JET SET ROSTER 2001
___________________________________________________________

TOURS
- UK DJ/ Producer MURRAY RICHARDSON 20/20 Vision/Kickin'/ Low Pressings will=
=20
be touring the U.S. at the end of February . . . We have open dates the=20
23-26th.=20
- Future Sound Tour Update: Artists CZR, LEGO, MAZI, and RICK GARCIA will be=
=20
heading out in May/June to promote the first in a series of CD compilations=20
titled Future Sound . . . More info will be posted at=20
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- The Soul Phusion Records Tour will kick off sometime in mid June . . . The=
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JET SET EVENTS

- Every Thursday DEEP at Mad Bar  . . .  www.MadBar.com
   Resident DJ's RON CARROLL and MAZI
   Upcoming guests include: Feb.15th - Tony Senghore, Sweden =20
                                           Feb. 22nd - Murray Richardson, UK
- WMC=20
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- ARTIST UPDATES
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 =20
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 =20
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    For streaming Jonene check out www.groovetech.com
  =20
NATHAN LARSEN - "Invisible" hide and seek remix/Cyclo.=20
   "5 minutes of pleasure 2 minutes of pain" and "mirari"/Simple Soul=20
Recordings
   "Classical Civilization ep"/Gourmet Recordings
  =20
DAN CURTIN - "Calling You EP"  Dan Curtin presents Time Undefined /Metamorph=
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   Pregeneis with mixes by Recloose,
   Remixes Common Factor, and Mettle Music/Elypsia=20
   The Juice, Purveyors of Fine Funk/Catalyst=20

CZR - Remix, Hatiras "Spaced Invader"/International House Records      =20
          Remix, Mazi/Donna Blakley  "Could It Be You" /Afterhours
_________________________________________________________________

ARTIST PROFILE

RON CARROLL

2000 has so far proved to be the pinnacle of Ron Carroll's career. He=20
effortlessly wrote and performed the European mega hit 'Lucky Star" with=20
French group Superfunk, which subsequently went on the sell over 2 Million=20
copies and make Ron a full fledged star. He spent the summer touring Europe,=
=20
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to name a few. His most recent release on Subliminal "It's All About House=20
Music" where he appears as the RC Groove Project has quickly become an=20
anthem, rocking dance floors while blowing 20,000 copies of the single off=20
the shelves . . . His eagerly anticipated album "Live In Me" is due out in=20
March and all eyes are on Ron!
He currently holds down a Thursday night residency with partner Mazi=E2=80=
=A6 Deep at=20
Mad Bar in his hometown of Chicago.

Ron's career began back in 1984 as a DJ, where he gained widespread notoriet=
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in his hometown. In 1987 he began to develop his vocal career recording hits=
=20
such as "My Prayer" and "A New Day". In 1994 he collaborated with Little=20
Louie Vega and Barbara Tucker to write the #1 Billboard hit "I Get Lifted".=20
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Byron Stingly. The trio drew clients such as Mousse T., Frankie Knuckles,=20
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______________________________________________________________

JET SET ROSTER 2001=20

ALEXANDER EAST - MINNEAPOLIS
Afterhours / Simple Soul / Viva
Deep House/Tech House

ALEXKID - PARIS, FRANCE
F Communications / Guidance  Ovum
Soulful House without filter

BYRON STINGLY - CHICAGO
Nervous / Ten City
Vocal House Legend

CZR - CHICAGO
Funk Parlor / Moody / Subliminal / Defected
House

DAN CURTIN - CLEVELAND
Metamorphic/Paper Recordings/Nepenta
House/Tech House/Disco House

DAVID DURIEZ - PARIS
Brique Rouge / 20:20 Vision /Jinxx
Deep to Banging House=20

DELANO - CHICAGO
Another Level / Subliminal
Vocalist

FRANKIE VEGA - CHICAGO
SHR / Blueline
Techno

JOHNNY FIASCO - CHICAGO
Tonic / Cajual / Guidance / Viva
Deep House

HATIRAS - TORONTO
Liquid Adrenaline / IHR / Defected
Bangin Filtered House/ Tech House

JASON DUNNE - CHICAGO
Sunrise Recordings / Trancedomain.com
Progressive house/Trance/Intelligent Breaks

LADY D - CHICAGO
Afterhours / Superjane / FSO
Tech House/US & UK Garage

LARS LB. BEHRENROTH - GERMANY
BOC / TOI / Compost / Chez
Deep House & Garage with a touch of Latin, Soul & Jazz

LEGO - CHICAGO
Poontin Muzik/Afterhours/83 West/Moody/Sole Music/Nervous
House

MAZI - CHICAGO
Gourmet / Afterhours / Fluential / Guidance / Yellow / Simple Soul
Dub House/Vocal House/Tech House

MUNDO - DALLAS
Wikiddrama Recordings / Valence
Drum n Bass / 2Step Garage
DJ and Live PA

MURRAY RICHARDSON - UK
20:20 Vision / Low Pressings / Kickin Records / Creative Records=20
Deep Funky House

NATHAN DREW LARSEN - CHICAGO
Gourmet Recordings / Simple Soul / Yellow Productions
Deep Sexy Elemental Tech House

New Artists:
Jon Lemmon
Spencer Kincy aka Gemini
___________________________________________________

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1658 N. Milwaukee Ave.
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I think what some people on here want is some consitency in the way things
get handled. Some people have gotten upset in the past cuz they've gotten
treated differently then other people who they believed Chad had a soft-spot
for. If people are confused as to what I mean, I'm talking about people who
have been banned or chastised for doing something that other persons/people
have done and nothing has happened to them. There needs to be less grey area
in all of the rules and enforcement.

As far as Chad stepping down as admin., I don't know. I don't think Chad has
done a bad job, but several times he as doubted his ability/desire to do the
job. I really think maybe its time to let someone else to do it (like atomly
and matt IF they want to) just so there is a new freshness to the list. Plus
with 2 people making decisions on list policy theres less of a chance of any
favoritism (incidental or otherwise) being played.

The fact that you referred to yourself as the "list owner" is kind of
disturbing also. I thought this list was owned by all the members of this
list. Granted, you've been on this list longer than I, Chad, but I'm pretty
sure you have never in anyway purchased this list. I kinda thought that this
list set its policy by the decision of list members on items in question. No
one person should have the final say-so on what happens on the list, I mean
doesn't the list have a certain say so on who the Admin should be and what
some of the list policies should be. This is why I think the idea of a 2
person administration would be a good idea, this gives more room for debate
on policy.

not that my opinion matters
shawne
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From: chad sponholz <chad@hyperreal.org>
To: j3s <jes@pubnix.org>
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> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, chad sponholz wrote:
>
> +On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, j3s wrote:
>
> +jes, do you ever take vacation from work?  do you feel bad for it?  this
> +isn't even really a "job" i just sit here and read posts every now and
> +again like everyone else, the only difference is i control the list
> +software and am the list owner...  i think i've explained that a few
times
> +before.
>
> and to further clarify "list-owner" is just me being technical... i don't
> see it that way, but i am the one who'd be responsible for making
> decisions in that capacity.  i'd, of course, consult you all before doing
> anything rash.
>
> and you know this, man!
>
> chad
>
>
> _
> chad@hyperreal.org
> http://www.hyperreal.org/~chad
>
> -
>
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Subject: [mw] Track name

Can anyone tell me the name of this track:

It's a slower, disco house track with a female vocalist that sounds like
the chick from Madison Avenue.

All I rememer from the vocals is "All night long" and it repeats.

Okay, so it's a bit ambiguous, but I know someone else has heard it.

Thanx!

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----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Murphy <murph@mr.net>
>     Exactly. Also, as someone smarter than I pointed out the crackhouse
law
> won't hold much ground in an environment where people are searched
> thoroughly at the door and kicked out if they're caught selling.
>




This is something I've been kicking around in my head for awhile. I really
hate the thought that so many people are being persecuted for just throwing
parties, irrespective of the fact that the point is to listen to music not
do drugs. In effect, the prosecutors are saying that promoters are
responsible for the actions of anyone who shows up. This has the possibility
of fucking things up for all of us., so I see why people are into "cleaning
up the scene" but at the same time I have to wonder, 'do we really want to
be fully co-opted by the police?' Are cop-friendly, drug-free, "parties" the
thing we really want to do? Do we really want to cooperate completely with
them to the point that we totally abandon the freedom of even such an
innocuous event as puffing a J? Why? Is it a betrayal of the spirit that
started the whole thing? Is it really JUST about the music, or does the over
used PLUR really mean something too?


I really don't know the answers, but we're being forced to decide....



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Subject: [mw] SESSIONZ



If anyone who put on SESSIONZ at The Metro in Eau Claire last night is on
this list, thanks. I only got to stay till about 11:30 but it sounded great!
Just what I needed.



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Subject: [mw] Every now and again.....

It seems from time to time I have to say hello to the list members.  I do=
n't
say too much just because my box if full of a gazillion messages but that=
's
why i'm on the list..to meet new people and read about everyones  persona=
l
opinion on the "Movement" (i'd like to call it).  Let me just say one thi=
ng
though:

I don't go to  parties like I used to so instead I try to find the same v=
ibe
in the chicago clubs...(bah).  Can't do it man.  I've been to a couple of=

clubs here (i'm not gonna drop any names) that are just full of rude, sno=
bbish
folk that think because they dress fly as hell and work in the loop gives=
 the
right to shove you out of the way when they feel like it, spill drinks al=
l
over you and not say excuse me, instead of a smile  you are greeted with =
a
eyes of "who the fuck are you and why are you looking at me."  It is inde=
ed a
sad state of affairs here in Chicago.  While, I'm not bitter at all, it
saddens me to see these type of folk in an atmosphere with me with the vi=
be
attempting to penetrate my dome and make my feet move.  Oh and I almost
forgot....people don't dance anymore....what's up with that?  Everyone ju=
st
stands around dressed to the nines, looking tooo fly to break a sweat bec=
ause
they are trying to score some ass.  I know the vibe is where you make it,=
 but
how can a person send out vibe from him or herself if the people around a=
re
simply draining it from you with their...bad attitudes.  The solution....=
I
don't go to clubs that often now...the last club/party i went to was the =
one
that was at the metro last month...now that was tight..the vibe was there=
=2E..it
was there indeed...I think I want to start my own promotion/club/party th=
ingy
and go by the motto, "if you ain't got the vibe, get the fuck out."  Resp=
ect
yourself and others. Do unto others as you will have them do unto you.  W=
hy is
it that when people go out (some not all) they lose the manners that mama=
 and
pappa gave them....oh man..where is the VIBE...where is it people...can y=
ou
point me where to go...Chicago is attempting to drain what little I have =
left.
 What happened, where are all the good people...where they?  Don't answer=

that, I'm just making a point...or attempting to anyways.  Well I guess I=
'll
climb back into the realm of idle-dom and continue to read the post and
chuckle to myself about the dj funk jokes....and the flames i see flying =
back
and forth.  I joined this list 4 years ago starting out on vrave...(ahhh =
those
where the days) and I'll have to say.....i'm glad i'm a part of the loud
minority....

peace and blessings 3fold... (^_^)

facade
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sorry it took me an eternity to actually leave, but it
was my b-day so i didnt have time. and i was also very
sick. but its all good now so im going unsubscribe
myslef. so bye peoples!!!!
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You need to go somewhere... where 1. people arent uptight anal about the
music 2. uptight and anal about the way other people dance.  3. aren't too
uptight and anal about dancing themselves (Ie... they arent going to be
overly critical of the music or others dancing or to self concsous to
dance... Ie some place where people are willing to cut loose and have fun).  
Unfortunately your average homo sapien seems incapapble of doing this in
teh presence of strangers (like a rave or club) with out hte benefit of
illicit substances... unfortunately it is to easy to laff at the people
that do 'do this' (chemically assisted or not... ok the chemically assisted
people are often funnier).  Um... if you find that let me know...


tad


At 09:07 AM 1/28/01 MST, Facade Maxwell wrote:
>It seems from time to time I have to say hello to the list members.  I don't
>say too much just because my box if full of a gazillion messages but that's
>why i'm on the list..to meet new people and read about everyones  personal
>opinion on the "Movement" (i'd like to call it).  Let me just say one thing
>though:
>
>I don't go to  parties like I used to so instead I try to find the same vibe
>in the chicago clubs...(bah).  Can't do it man.  I've been to a couple of
>clubs here (i'm not gonna drop any names) that are just full of rude,
snobbish
>folk that think because they dress fly as hell and work in the loop gives the
>right to shove you out of the way when they feel like it, spill drinks all
>over you and not say excuse me, instead of a smile  you are greeted with a
>eyes of "who the fuck are you and why are you looking at me."  It is indeed a
>sad state of affairs here in Chicago.  While, I'm not bitter at all, it
>saddens me to see these type of folk in an atmosphere with me with the vibe
>attempting to penetrate my dome and make my feet move.  Oh and I almost
>forgot....people don't dance anymore....what's up with that?  Everyone just
>stands around dressed to the nines, looking tooo fly to break a sweat because
>they are trying to score some ass.  I know the vibe is where you make it, but
>how can a person send out vibe from him or herself if the people around are
>simply draining it from you with their...bad attitudes.  The solution....I
>don't go to clubs that often now...the last club/party i went to was the one
>that was at the metro last month...now that was tight..the vibe was
there...it
>was there indeed...I think I want to start my own promotion/club/party thingy
>and go by the motto, "if you ain't got the vibe, get the fuck out."  Respect
>yourself and others. Do unto others as you will have them do unto you.
Why is
>it that when people go out (some not all) they lose the manners that mama and
>pappa gave them....oh man..where is the VIBE...where is it people...can you
>point me where to go...Chicago is attempting to drain what little I have
left.
> What happened, where are all the good people...where they?  Don't answer
>that, I'm just making a point...or attempting to anyways.  Well I guess I'll
>climb back into the realm of idle-dom and continue to read the post and
>chuckle to myself about the dj funk jokes....and the flames i see flying back
>and forth.  I joined this list 4 years ago starting out on vrave...(ahhh
those
>where the days) and I'll have to say.....i'm glad i'm a part of the loud
>minority....
>
>peace and blessings 3fold... (^_^)
>
>facade
>facade3.org
>...analog boy with a digital toy...
>
>
>
>
>
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^Right well that's what I'm asking.  IF anyone at all can find such a pla=
ce
please let me know.  A boy can't remain behind his four walls dancing all=
 by
himself for too long you know...the sad thing is sluck, chicago clubs for=
 the
most part possess all those uptight, rich, wanna-be, chickenhead, i have
money, i will not dance, i'll drop a roll, squeeze someones ass, i'm mone=
y and
you better remeber, mentality..makes me long for those ghetto ass ware ho=
use
parties on the west side where people for the most part were real..wear w=
hat
you got and go and dance.....we need a revolution.. (^_^)

facade



Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
You need to go somewhere... where 1. people arent uptight anal about the
music 2. uptight and anal about the way other people dance.  3. aren't to=
o
uptight and anal about dancing themselves (Ie... they arent going to be
overly critical of the music or others dancing or to self concsous to
dance... Ie some place where people are willing to cut loose and have fun=
).  =

Unfortunately your average homo sapien seems incapapble of doing this in
teh presence of strangers (like a rave or club) with out hte benefit of
illicit substances... unfortunately it is to easy to laff at the people
that do 'do this' (chemically assisted or not... ok the chemically assist=
ed
people are often funnier).  Um... if you find that let me know...


tad


At 09:07 AM 1/28/01 MST, Facade Maxwell wrote:
>It seems from time to time I have to say hello to the list members.  I d=
on't
>say too much just because my box if full of a gazillion messages but tha=
t's
>why i'm on the list..to meet new people and read about everyones  person=
al
>opinion on the "Movement" (i'd like to call it).  Let me just say one th=
ing
>though:
>
>I don't go to  parties like I used to so instead I try to find the same =
vibe
>in the chicago clubs...(bah).  Can't do it man.  I've been to a couple o=
f
>clubs here (i'm not gonna drop any names) that are just full of rude,
snobbish
>folk that think because they dress fly as hell and work in the loop give=
s
the
>right to shove you out of the way when they feel like it, spill drinks a=
ll
>over you and not say excuse me, instead of a smile  you are greeted with=
 a
>eyes of "who the fuck are you and why are you looking at me."  It is ind=
eed
a
>sad state of affairs here in Chicago.  While, I'm not bitter at all, it
>saddens me to see these type of folk in an atmosphere with me with the v=
ibe
>attempting to penetrate my dome and make my feet move.  Oh and I almost
>forgot....people don't dance anymore....what's up with that?  Everyone j=
ust
>stands around dressed to the nines, looking tooo fly to break a sweat
because
>they are trying to score some ass.  I know the vibe is where you make it=
,
but
>how can a person send out vibe from him or herself if the people around =
are
>simply draining it from you with their...bad attitudes.  The solution...=
=2EI
>don't go to clubs that often now...the last club/party i went to was the=
 one
>that was at the metro last month...now that was tight..the vibe was
there...it
>was there indeed...I think I want to start my own promotion/club/party
thingy
>and go by the motto, "if you ain't got the vibe, get the fuck out."  Res=
pect
>yourself and others. Do unto others as you will have them do unto you.
Why is
>it that when people go out (some not all) they lose the manners that mam=
a
and
>pappa gave them....oh man..where is the VIBE...where is it people...can =
you
>point me where to go...Chicago is attempting to drain what little I have=

left.
> What happened, where are all the good people...where they?  Don't answe=
r
>that, I'm just making a point...or attempting to anyways.  Well I guess =
I'll
>climb back into the realm of idle-dom and continue to read the post and
>chuckle to myself about the dj funk jokes....and the flames i see flying=

back
>and forth.  I joined this list 4 years ago starting out on vrave...(ahhh=

those
>where the days) and I'll have to say.....i'm glad i'm a part of the loud=

>minority....
>
>peace and blessings 3fold... (^_^)
>
>facade
>facade3.org
>...analog boy with a digital toy...
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Ted Weinberg <te_one@yahoo.com>
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 hey guys, it's a mailing list on the internet. there's no reason for anyone's feelings to get
hurt about this. i don't think chad ever threatened to shut it down, he just said that it seems to
be reaching the limits of its lifespan, within the limits of its original incarnation. at least
that was my interpretation, and i can't say that i don't in some ways agree with him. consider
someone who doesn't know *any* of us joining this list for the first time; they'd probably find it
annoying as hell, getting so many messages a day about things they have no interest in. here
they've joined a mailing list called "midwest raves", and though i don't think that should be some
concrete limit as to the topic of discussion it should at least be an underlying theme, by a very
liberal definition. for all the charges of elitism it's a wonder nobody has considered that a
constant stream of in-jokes relevant to %1 of the people on the list is kind of.. well,
presumptious, to say the least. 

when it's periodic comic relief, it's cool. when it's 50 messages in a row, about nothing, every
day, from the same person or handful of people... i mean, to be honest, i know and like you guys
and i still find it obnoxious as hell lately. getting all offended about it, though, is
ridiculous.
this goes for both sides of the issue. i mean, if we're actually supposed to be friends, as in
here in what passes for consensus reality as opposed to on some mailing list - this shit should be
handled as the trivial misunderstanding that it is. instead, i see some emotional damage being
done to and by people i care about, and i find that pretty disturbing.



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Violence at raves is getting out of hand. I went to this party in Pittsburgh 
this weekend called pulse. The party was great, but the vibe and violence was 
terrible. This 40 year old man grabbed me and my friend and ripped our shirts 
and when we tried to get away he kicked her and punched me. Now I understand 
that he was fucked up, but that was so incredibly scary. I was however very 
impressed by the security at the venue and how they handled the man. They 
calmly and quickly removed him from the venue. But the fact that this 
happened and also another incident at a party in Pittsburgh where a friend of 
mine was punched in the arm for being "too young" for the scene. He is 18? 
This is just frightening to me that this scene has turned so shady and scary 
in the past 5 months. I hope that other scenes don't turn like this or else 
we are all fucked.
Melissa, Intellibass Sounds

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From mw-raves-return-15821-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 01:58:40 2001
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you wanna know very disturbing?!...this is very 
disturbing...

ok, it's bad enough they've intentionally oppressed
me...by forcing me to take a lower paying job (when
every one knows that i deserve a much higher paying
job since i'm an ivy school graduate and have had 6
years experience in my field) and fwding my phone calls 
for a month so i couldn't recieve calls for other job offers
...but they have also been messing with my account...
i've been triple charged by aol (and yes i've tried to get 
on other free-mail accounts, but aol ate my dial up network), 
charged for magazines i did not order, double charged at 
restaurants...and last night my main aol account name was 
broken into...most likely because i made that president 
clinton hit list post...but here's the thing...the only reason, i 
got that e-mail, was because some one had signed me up 
on this mailing list, which i did not subscribe to...absinthe 
off of e-groups...they've also signed me up for a bunch of
other annoying e-group lists also...is this what they plan
on doing with all intelligent minorities?!...intentionally
oppress them...destroy their reputation by making inane
false accusations like espionage and mob involvement
(when in reality it's the pot calling the kettle black, because
everyone knows that the technology secrets had been SOLD
to China all for greed and profit AND the US Government had 
been involved with drug trafficking since VIETNAM when 
they used the sales of LSD to pay for the DDT they were 
spraying over Vietnam!!)...force them into legal slavery by 
intentionally oppressing them into lower level jobs?!...hoping 
they will turn into a life of crime by costantly baiting them?!..so 
they can put us in legal concentration camps, so that Bush 
can give the go ahead to execute us like he did in Texas?!

welcome to AmeriKKKa!!!

and let the record show, when i helped start this scene in Ohio,
it was a scene created by musicians, dj's, and artists AND NOT,
i repeat NOT DRUG DEALERS...who were ALL initially employed
by the US MILITARY...because i saw them all when they first 
came in...they took over our scene with the only intent of using
it as another PROFIT product for their shady and corrupt Military
Operations!!...DO NOT EVER EVER FORGET THAT!!!

and now they are trying like HELL, to make me pay for THEIR
sins!!...well don't believe the HYPE boys and girls...THE BEAST
has and always will be THE US GOVERNMENT!!

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>as for the admin: chad, it really disappoints me that you unsubbed several
>times from the list you were supposed to be adminning. perhaps it is time
>for a change of hands. an admin switch every 2-3 years is pretty
>standard. you said yourself you burned out. why not pass on the
>responsibility to matt and atom, have them co-admin like they've been
>doing for a while? they work together, sit right next to each other
>actually, it makes sense. and then chad, you may not feel so alienated
>from the list anymore. it upsets me that you'll threaten to shut down the
>list before you'll offer to pass on the admin duties to someone else. what
>does that say?

it seems like every few years ppl get fed up with the list and blame anyone 
but themselves. that lucky duck usually ends up being the admin. i havent 
been on the list fer 5 decades er anything. but, when things where getting 
whack a couple years back, jeff was assaulted. people acted with total 
disregard for his feelings. blaming him for the problems rather than taking 
personal responsibility. it seems to be recurring. is this just the 
mw-cycle? if it is, why the hell would anyone WANT to be the new admin? at 
first it seems fun and like a good idea. and, i know when a person gets into 
something like this, they think it wont happen to them. but, it does. thats 
sad.
and as far as the new admin goes. why matt and atom? just becuz they are the 
moderaters? in my opinion, the fact that they work together and live in the 
same neighborhood is NOT plus. i think if the list does get a new admin, it 
should be discussed with everyone. not just given to friends. cliquiness 
should be avoided, not vice versa.
im sure this has been said already. but, when a person clearly states that 
they are not making a threat, then they arent making a threat. and it is 
just plain mean to twist words to make a point. and, im not just talking 
about this post.
instead of continuing to make accusations and air grievances that should 
have been dealt with LONG AGO, why not be friendlly and offer advice. 
tearing a friend apart is not going to make this list better or fix any of 
those grievances. why not get past the namecalling, and move on. before 
irreparable damage is done. in the last couple days friendships have fallen 
apart over petty crap that should have been dealt with earlier. people have 
lashed out on each other, and it shows no signs of stopping. micahs gone. 
many people are trying to make chad go. pretty soon there will be no one 
left. and thats NOT  a threat.

love,
jaimmie
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> it seems like every few years ppl get fed up with the list and blame anyone 
> but themselves. that lucky duck usually ends up being the admin. i havent 
> been on the list fer 5 decades er anything. but, when things where getting 
> whack a couple years back, jeff was assaulted. people acted with total 
> disregard for his feelings. blaming him for the problems rather than taking 
> personal responsibility. it seems to be recurring. is this just the 
> mw-cycle? if it is, why the hell would anyone WANT to be the new admin? at 
> first it seems fun and like a good idea. and, i know when a person gets into 
> something like this, they think it wont happen to them. but, it does. thats 
> sad.

bad example to pick, jaimmie. people got pissed at jeff because he moved
back to california, lost touch with the mw, and thus dropped the ball on
his admin duties. much like what has happened with chad, without the
moving to california part.

/j









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and if you think for a minute the US Government cares
about the people, check AOL News...there has been 
an energy crisis in California for eight months now with
several blackouts and rate increases...rather than 
helping THE PEOPLE out (some of which are freezing
to death) what are they doing?!...they're putting $60 billion
dollars toward a missile defense system that every world
leader has predicted would re-initiate the Cold War!!...
friggin brilliant!!

this along, with the thousands of lay-offs going on from all
the different corporations...i mean THE LAST thing you do
to help people out when there is a recession going on
is lay them off!!...c'mon!!

this scene was created by creators/artists as an escape 
from the INANE system...it started with renegades...no 
permission...no retarded dance permits...no ridiculous
permission to stay out after 2am!!...no set ways on how
you should dress...no one said you had to take drugs or
that you couldn't for that matter...there were no rules!!...it 
WAS ABOUT FREEDOM!!...what this very country was truly 
founded upon!!...LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF 
HAPPINESS!!

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micahs gone.
> many people are trying to make chad go. pretty soon there will be no one
> left. and thats NOT  a threat.>>

then what is it??

shawne

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>
>
>
> >as for the admin: chad, it really disappoints me that you unsubbed
several
> >times from the list you were supposed to be adminning. perhaps it is time
> >for a change of hands. an admin switch every 2-3 years is pretty
> >standard. you said yourself you burned out. why not pass on the
> >responsibility to matt and atom, have them co-admin like they've been
> >doing for a while? they work together, sit right next to each other
> >actually, it makes sense. and then chad, you may not feel so alienated
> >from the list anymore. it upsets me that you'll threaten to shut down the
> >list before you'll offer to pass on the admin duties to someone else.
what
> >does that say?
>
> it seems like every few years ppl get fed up with the list and blame
anyone
> but themselves. that lucky duck usually ends up being the admin. i havent
> been on the list fer 5 decades er anything. but, when things where getting
> whack a couple years back, jeff was assaulted. people acted with total
> disregard for his feelings. blaming him for the problems rather than
taking
> personal responsibility. it seems to be recurring. is this just the
> mw-cycle? if it is, why the hell would anyone WANT to be the new admin? at
> first it seems fun and like a good idea. and, i know when a person gets
into
> something like this, they think it wont happen to them. but, it does.
thats
> sad.
> and as far as the new admin goes. why matt and atom? just becuz they are
the
> moderaters? in my opinion, the fact that they work together and live in
the
> same neighborhood is NOT plus. i think if the list does get a new admin,
it
> should be discussed with everyone. not just given to friends. cliquiness
> should be avoided, not vice versa.
> im sure this has been said already. but, when a person clearly states that
> they are not making a threat, then they arent making a threat. and it is
> just plain mean to twist words to make a point. and, im not just talking
> about this post.
> instead of continuing to make accusations and air grievances that should
> have been dealt with LONG AGO, why not be friendlly and offer advice.
> tearing a friend apart is not going to make this list better or fix any of
> those grievances. why not get past the namecalling, and move on. before
> irreparable damage is done. in the last couple days friendships have
fallen
> apart over petty crap that should have been dealt with earlier. people
have
> lashed out on each other, and it shows no signs of stopping. micahs gone.
> many people are trying to make chad go. pretty soon there will be no one
> left. and thats NOT  a threat.
>
> love,
> jaimmie
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Subject: Re: [mw] very disturbing

U soooooooooooo need to chill out.  If U hate this country so much, then
move away!!  Move to Russia, or move to Vietnam.  Move to Rwanda.  I'll
bet that after 2 months in places such as these, you'd be begging to be
let back into this country that you hate so much.  If you continue to
focus on things that aren't there, and interpret things that you see in
the most negative way possible, then you're never going to have anything
brilliant happen in your life, and for that reason, I feel sorry for you.

Take a chill pill man, and revel in the music.

Son316east@aol.com wrote:

> and if you think for a minute the US Government cares
> about the people, check AOL News...there has been
> an energy crisis in California for eight months now with
> several blackouts and rate increases...rather than
> helping THE PEOPLE out (some of which are freezing
> to death) what are they doing?!...they're putting $60 billion
> dollars toward a missile defense system that every world
> leader has predicted would re-initiate the Cold War!!...
> friggin brilliant!!
>
> this along, with the thousands of lay-offs going on from all
> the different corporations...i mean THE LAST thing you do
> to help people out when there is a recession going on
> is lay them off!!...c'mon!!
>
> this scene was created by creators/artists as an escape
> from the INANE system...it started with renegades...no
> permission...no retarded dance permits...no ridiculous
> permission to stay out after 2am!!...no set ways on how
> you should dress...no one said you had to take drugs or
> that you couldn't for that matter...there were no rules!!...it
> WAS ABOUT FREEDOM!!...what this very country was truly
> founded upon!!...LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF
> HAPPINESS!!
>
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From mw-raves-return-15828-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 03:01:37 2001
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i was driving home from work today thinking about this issue a little...
here's an interesting thought for y'all..

i've been on this list for about a year now.  i didn't know any of you
before i joined.  i did some web searches and found the mailing list lists
on hyperreal, and it led me here.  i don't believe i ever had a problem
knowing how to act here, and i'm not socially inept (don't laugh) so i don't
think i had problems meeting people here, or anywhere else for that matter.

so am i just a unique individual (again,don't laugh) or are the people that
join and leave right away not really mw-raves material?

just a question,
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Subject: Re: [mw] very disturbing

That's what the Republican's theory is, State Rights...

not Federalism...

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> and if you think for a minute the US Government cares
> about the people, check AOL News...there has been 
> an energy crisis in California for eight months now with
> several blackouts and rate increases...rather than 
> helping THE PEOPLE out (some of which are freezing
> to death) what are they doing?!...they're putting $60 billion
> dollars toward a missile defense system that every world
> leader has predicted would re-initiate the Cold War!!...
> friggin brilliant!!
> 
> this along, with the thousands of lay-offs going on from all
> the different corporations...i mean THE LAST thing you do
> to help people out when there is a recession going on
> is lay them off!!...c'mon!!
> 
> this scene was created by creators/artists as an escape 
> from the INANE system...it started with renegades...no 
> permission...no retarded dance permits...no ridiculous
> permission to stay out after 2am!!...no set ways on how
> you should dress...no one said you had to take drugs or
> that you couldn't for that matter...there were no rules!!...it 
> WAS ABOUT FREEDOM!!...what this very country was truly 
> founded upon!!...LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF 
> HAPPINESS!!
> 
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Subject: Re: [mw] very disturbing

The last rave I went to had Indianapolis cops working off-duty in uniform
for security.  Obviously they were turning a blind eye to the drugs.  It
seems to be a good deterent, if promoters can find 'cool' cops.  Also,
what is this about a 40 yr old?  I would never think of seeing someone
that old at a rave.  Next time light the fucker up with a stun gun or a
blast of peper spray!!!

On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 MelloYello1128@aol.com wrote:

> Violence at raves is getting out of hand. I went to this party in Pittsburgh 
> this weekend called pulse. The party was great, but the vibe and violence was 
> terrible. This 40 year old man grabbed me and my friend and ripped our shirts 
> and when we tried to get away he kicked her and punched me. Now I understand 
> that he was fucked up, but that was so incredibly scary. I was however very 
> impressed by the security at the venue and how they handled the man. They 
> calmly and quickly removed him from the venue. But the fact that this 
> happened and also another incident at a party in Pittsburgh where a friend of 
> mine was punched in the arm for being "too young" for the scene. He is 18? 
> This is just frightening to me that this scene has turned so shady and scary 
> in the past 5 months. I hope that other scenes don't turn like this or else 
> we are all fucked.
> Melissa, Intellibass Sounds
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Subject: [mw] hey



let's get all pissed off!

chris


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On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

> welcome to AmeriKKKa!!!
> 
> and now they are trying like HELL, to make me pay for THEIR
> sins!!...well don't believe the HYPE boys and girls...THE BEAST
> has and always will be THE US GOVERNMENT!!

The revolution will start soon.

rvkeller (who seems to notice that the Indy 1500 Gun show keeps getting
bigger and occurs more often--maybe I should stay the hell away from
places the wackos will 'target')


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From mw-raves-return-15833-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 03:12:13 2001
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> let's get all pissed off!

IF SOMEONE WOULD JUST BRING ME SOME CAKE EVERYTHING WOULD BE MUCH BETTER.

/j

ooh! it's just like survivor!!










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On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

> and if you think for a minute the US Government cares
> about the people, check AOL News...there has been 
> an energy crisis in California for eight months now with
> several blackouts and rate increases...rather than 
> helping THE PEOPLE out (some of which are freezing
> to death) what are they doing?!...they're putting $60 billion
> dollars toward a missile defense system that every world
> leader has predicted would re-initiate the Cold War!!...
> friggin brilliant!!

Cry me a fucking river.  These people get what they deserve is you ask me.
Reasons:
The liberal left has blocked the building of all sorts of power plant
facilities.
The liberals have boasted about how KKKalifornia is a great place to live,
thus causing a movement to the state.
The capitalist just had to have their .com or tech company in the valley
so that strains the system.
There are nurmerous other problems as well.  Everyone thinkgs the
government should step right in some more.  Amerikkka is becoming a pitful
welfare state.  How much do you want the government to control YOUR life?

Also, I would rather have the money go to a defense that protects us in
the Midwest (and the other parts of the country) than it go to a bunch of
wasteful people who moved to a crowed as area of the country anyway.
Besides, lets take the $6 Billion we give to Isreal and use that to help
Cali.  Why does one bitch about military spending when there is just as
much waste elsewhere?

  > this along, with the thousands of lay-offs going on from all
> the different corporations...i mean THE LAST thing you do
> to help people out when there is a recession going on
> is lay them off!!...c'mon!!

Not only that, I have heard of those laid off planning on sabatoge (sp?)?


> this scene was created by creators/artists as an escape 
> from the INANE system...it started with renegades...no 
> permission...no retarded dance permits...no ridiculous
> permission to stay out after 2am!!...no set ways on how
> you should dress...no one said you had to take drugs or
> that you couldn't for that matter...there were no rules!!...it 
> WAS ABOUT FREEDOM!!...what this very country was truly 
> founded upon!!...LIFE, LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT OF 
> HAPPINESS!!
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Subject: [mw] looking for old fliers...

Okay, I'm looking for any "rave" fliers that date
prior to '96.  I don't care what city, state, or
country they're coming from...If any of you would be
so kind as to mail them to me, I would definitely
appreciate it...

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From mw-raves-return-15836-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 03:38:10 2001
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Subject: [mw] WHAT'S REALLY DISTURBING IS...

...All the serious scapegoating we as human beings do.
 Rather than working through our problems with a
clear, respectful, honest and thoughtful voice, we
impose our unreasonable wills on others, or try to do
so: for whatever reason.  Is it really the drugs?  The
government?  The right-wing?  The left-wing?  The
newbies?  The jaded ravers?  Your mother?  Your
father?  Are these the culprits.  When will we stop
blaming others for our own wonderful/miserable lives
and escape this silly cycle.  I'm definitely bored of
it.  Most definitely.  No, I don't believe in a
Utopian society (notice the use of the 2 negatives),
but I do believe that we may achieve something quite
close...near infinity, but never quite touching
it....hmmmm....

luis aguilera....now, can someone get me some fliers? 


thanks


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> IF SOMEONE WOULD JUST BRING ME SOME CAKE EVERYTHING WOULD BE MUCH BETTER.


"i forsee cake in your friend jes's near future"


fortune cookies are *always* right.



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http://www.anabug.com
if i could show you..


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Actually tech companies and Californians in general are leaving the state in droves, for Colorado
and Arizona in particular. Then again, I don't know why I'm pointing this out to someone who
refers to "the capitalists" and "the liberals" as some sort of homogenous, identifiable group.
Check it out; some liberals are capitalists! It's true!

Also, that bit about defending the midwest (from what, I don't know) over California is pretty
hilarious. Do you live in an underground bunker? And how does the "KKK" reference in your spelling
"KKKalifornia" work in the context of the state being so liberal? 

Personally, I think those underground bunkers may have some serious ventilation problems. You
might want to look into that...


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>This is just frightening to me that this scene has turned so shady and 
>scary
>in the past 5 months.

At the risk of sounding rather patriarchal, I have to point out that the 
"kissy juggy" vibe died A LOT longer than five months ago, at least in 
Detroit and Chicago.
I noticed a trend toward violence (and incidences of violence) more than 
four years ago.
The scene had changed and continues to change.
As a wise man once said: "change is the only constant."
People like you, me and the countless others on this list who want to get 
their groove on without the threat of thuggish behavior need to start 
somehting new, that the thugs won't catch on to for another five or six 
years.
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From mw-raves-return-15840-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 04:41:57 2001
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first off, there's something ironic about a mw-raves subject of "very
disturbing".  perhaps that subject line should be permanent here.

i'm fueling the fire, but what happened to the "power grid" that was going
to cause all these problems in the switch to y2k because all the power
companies are tied together...  it sounds to me that the blackouts in
california can only be cause by political issues and not actual lack of
energy.

btw, i saw traffic tonight, and i had to laugh anytime they showed a scene
in ohio, no offense to anyone that i know that lives there, but the only
person that came to mind was a certain oppressed messiah.

-t

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Also, that bit about defending the midwest (from what, I don't know) over
California is pretty
hilarious. Do you live in an underground bunker? 
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that thugs won't catch on to for at least 5 or 6 years:

WHIRLYBALL!!














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deejay@charter.net writes:

<< could we please keep this about parties. i mean come on people, if you want
 to complain about the gov't then freakin e mail your damn congress men, what
 good is it going to do to telling us about it, i think we know these things
 already >>

bahahaha!!...what is a rave kid doin with a "charter.net" account?
...talk about facism, telling us what we can or can not talk about
...thats exactly against our first amendment right of free speech!
...isn't that exactly what the system is all about...keepin the 
masses ignorant while they rape em hard from behind?!...and
as previously mentioned raves were created as an escape from
the system...the whole punk scene WAS ABOUT voicing all the
things wrong with the system!!...so the answer is NOOOO, you 
CAN NOT TELL US WHAT TO DO OR SAY ANY MORE...NO 
MATTER HOW DECEPTIVE YOU ARE!!

And as for the American propaganda system, everyone already 
knows how there's been a federal takeover of the major media 
companies especially with Time-Warner, but even with the non-
biaed sources like Drudgereport.com is getting obviously bought 
out!!...with the topics along the lines of..."Saddam Has Two Atomic 
Bombs"...OOOOOh TWO Atomic Bombs!!...when they have ten 
times that many in friggin silicon valley alone!!...doesn't the US have 
something like atleast 3,000 nuclear warheads hidden through out 
this country alone?!...and Iran has TWO?!...talk about SEVERE pot 
calling the kettle black!!

And let the record show that Desert Storm started as a result
of the US renigging on the simple deal of food for oil!!...greedy
America wanted more oil for food!!...Saddam said, what are you
kidding?!...US accused Saddam of being a dictator...and started
bombing them!!...how ridiculous can you get!!?

And to top it off...just now after how many friggin years, the US
Government is finally admitting that Gulf War Veterans were
exposed to chemical warfare and may be suffering from some
strange diseases!!...compensating all those vets is a different
story!!...and guess how some of those vets without limbs are
getting by without government compensation?!...they are 
friggin telemarketing american flags!!

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i'm really enjoying this tonight.  yeah, i can't believe a raver would have
a charter.net account, everyone knows all the true headz have aol (or should
i say aol-time-warner) accounts.

-t

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bahahaha!!...what is a rave kid doin with a "charter.net" account?
<snip>
And as for the American propaganda system, everyone already 
knows how there's been a federal takeover of the major media 
companies especially with Time-Warner, but even with the non-
biaed sources like Drudgereport.com is getting obviously bought 
out!!

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From mw-raves-return-15844-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 05:12:45 2001
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 writes:

<< that thugs won't catch on to for at least 5 or 6 years:
 
 WHIRLYBALL!! >>

lol...whatever happened to Philfart's Bowling get togethers?!
...Phil was real!!...he did a zine like me!...i miss dat ole kat!!

"take the skinheads bowling, take them bowling!..."

Actually, pertaining to the rise in violence and thugs to the
scene, i think it has to do with the gatherings protesting
the World Free Trade in Seattle and the Republican 
convention in Philly...i know a buncha ravah kids that 
were there and were arrested and maced for no apparent
reason other than for being at the wrong place at the 
wrong time...but the worst part was when they stuffed 
em in the paddy wagons...they were slapped with bails
that were intentionally set at twice the amount as usual!!
...i would be pretty pissed when i got out too!!

This also explains the current US Government's cold
heartedness toward the California Utility Problem...
everyone knows that California went Democratic during
the elections...this is the Republican way at getting 
back at them!!

Remember kiddies...the government agenda now is
to keep you ignorant and too broke to leave your house!!
...don't be fooled by the deceptions!!

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From mw-raves-return-15845-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 05:16:29 2001
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

-->Actually, pertaining to the rise in violence and thugs to the
-->scene, i think it has to do with the gatherings protesting
-->the World Free Trade in Seattle and the Republican 
-->convention in Philly...

if stevie ever composed and voiced a rational thought, i think i might
just shit my pants.

where're you going with this messiah-boy?


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At 10:10 PM 2001-01-28, rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
>The revolution will start soon.

Yeah, but will it be itemized on AOL News? :P

spin us another one as we spin down the tube,
-j


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my dormitory neighbour my freshman year of college was a whirlyball ref!

columbus parties used to happen in the whirlyball arena there.

mk, fucking exhausted

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http://www.hahasofunny.com/haha.htm

this is for everyone who didnt go to synchronicity :p

Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
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Subject: [mw] urban disturbance...

my boy ratfink's internet jungle, drum & bass, hardcore, 
and ragga broadcast...

check it...

http://www.urbandisturbance.net

click on radio & enjoy

(must have winamp installed)

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Speak. My only bit in this whole discussion is that I agree with Ted. Where
have you been? I'm from California. Lived there my whole life until I moved
to (laughing) Wisconsin.... ::sigh:: I have met and seen more KKK here in
Madison than I have ever seen in Los Angeles. It upsets me when you think of
my home that way. So get your shit right before you talk. KKK muthafucker...
shit.... ::mumbles bullshit::

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> Actually tech companies and Californians in general are leaving the state
in droves, for Colorado
> and Arizona in particular. Then again, I don't know why I'm pointing this
out to someone who
> refers to "the capitalists" and "the liberals" as some sort of homogenous,
identifiable group.
> Check it out; some liberals are capitalists! It's true!
>
> Also, that bit about defending the midwest (from what, I don't know) over
California is pretty
> hilarious. Do you live in an underground bunker? And how does the "KKK"
reference in your spelling
> "KKKalifornia" work in the context of the state being so liberal?
>
> Personally, I think those underground bunkers may have some serious
ventilation problems. You
> might want to look into that...
>
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Ted Weinberg wrote:

> hilarious. Do you live in an underground bunker? And how does the "KKK" reference in your spelling
> "KKKalifornia" work in the context of the state being so liberal? 

Cali has strict gun control laws.  The south was the first to try gun
control to control the blacks.  Those old laws were overturned, however
today Gun Control laws are being passed to disarm the citizens.
Especially the lower class.  I guess Cali is made up of relatives from the
Klan leaders of the old south.



> Personally, I think those underground bunkers may have some serious ventilation problems. You
> might want to look into that...
> 

Underground bunkers?  What the hell are you talking about?




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On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Hector G. wrote:

> Speak. My only bit in this whole discussion is that I agree with Ted. Where
> have you been? I'm from California. Lived there my whole life until I moved
> to (laughing) Wisconsin.... ::sigh:: I have met and seen more KKK here in
> Madison than I have ever seen in Los Angeles. It upsets me when you think of
> my home that way. So get your shit right before you talk. KKK muthafucker...
> shit.... ::mumbles bullshit::

Your elected politicians are Klan, maybe they don't hate just blacks, but
all of the lay people.  Remember Ice Cube singing "the KKK wears 3 piece
suits."  He is right.  The Klan tried to get gun control laws in the South
past after the civil war to disarm the blacks.  Seems to me that Kali is
doing the same thing.  They some how think that passing a law will make
the welfare mutants disarm.  They are scared of anyone who is lower class
and want to pass gun control and other laws to limit their freedom.  I
mean what if the worst is to happen with the power grid, who do you think
is going to get power?  The haves.  They know this and if it ever came to
that they cannot have middle to lower class people armed ready to fight.
It is a fact that the first carrying out in the open gun law in at least
L.A. was a direct action due to the black panters carrying long guns in
public.  Seems to me that your fellow cali people elected the Klan to the
City council and state congress.  Are you all really that scared of blacks
that you had to pass a law so they couldn't carry their guns?

It should be noted that there are Klan everywhere, but like Ice Cube says,
"the KKK wears 3 piece suits".  He is right.  Major metro areas have more
gun control than rural areas.  Why?  Because the inner city ghettos is
where crime occurs and they don't want stats off the charts.  What do they
do?  They pass gun laws in hopes that the _undersirables_ will follow them
and disarm like good sheeple.  It started in Cali and has made it's way
into other major cities.  It's not just gun laws either.  It's drug laws,
3 strikes and your out laws, etc..  I don't consider a bunch of hill jacks
in robes the Klan anymore, hell at least the minorities of Indiana can go
out and buy a gun for protection.  Those that live in L.A. have to rely on
the LAPD for protection.  No wonder so many of my friends are refusing to
registar their guns in KKKali.  Would YOU trust the LAPD?


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all this CA talk, is this what sf-raves is like?

just kidding, my monday hasn't had anywhere near enough sarcasm in it.  fix
that.

-t

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Subject: Re: [mw] very disturbing

It should be noted that there are Klan everywhere, but like Ice Cube says,
"the KKK wears 3 piece suits".  He is right.  Major metro areas have more
gun control than rural areas.  Why?  Because the inner city ghettos is
where crime occurs and they don't want stats off the charts.  What do they
do?  They pass gun laws in hopes that the _undersirables_ will follow them
and disarm like good sheeple.  It started in Cali and has made it's way
into other major cities.  It's not just gun laws either.  It's drug laws,
3 strikes and your out laws, etc..  I don't consider a bunch of hill jacks
in robes the Klan anymore, hell at least the minorities of Indiana can go
out and buy a gun for protection.  Those that live in L.A. have to rely on
the LAPD for protection.  No wonder so many of my friends are refusing to
registar their guns in KKKali.  Would YOU trust the LAPD?


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i think i went to a rave in the midwest once!

no, nevermind.


On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Hector G. wrote:
> 
> > Speak. My only bit in this whole discussion is that I agree with Ted. Where
> > have you been? I'm from California. Lived there my whole life until I moved
> > to (laughing) Wisconsin.... ::sigh:: I have met and seen more KKK here in
> > Madison than I have ever seen in Los Angeles. It upsets me when you think of
> > my home that way. So get your shit right before you talk. KKK muthafucker...
> > shit.... ::mumbles bullshit::
> 
> Your elected politicians are Klan, maybe they don't hate just blacks, but
> all of the lay people.  Remember Ice Cube singing "the KKK wears 3 piece
> suits."  He is right.  The Klan tried to get gun control laws in the South
> past after the civil war to disarm the blacks.  Seems to me that Kali is
> doing the same thing.  They some how think that passing a law will make
> the welfare mutants disarm.  They are scared of anyone who is lower class
> and want to pass gun control and other laws to limit their freedom.  I
> mean what if the worst is to happen with the power grid, who do you think
> is going to get power?  The haves.  They know this and if it ever came to
> that they cannot have middle to lower class people armed ready to fight.
> It is a fact that the first carrying out in the open gun law in at least
> L.A. was a direct action due to the black panters carrying long guns in
> public.  Seems to me that your fellow cali people elected the Klan to the
> City council and state congress.  Are you all really that scared of blacks
> that you had to pass a law so they couldn't carry their guns?
> 
> It should be noted that there are Klan everywhere, but like Ice Cube says,
> "the KKK wears 3 piece suits".  He is right.  Major metro areas have more
> gun control than rural areas.  Why?  Because the inner city ghettos is
> where crime occurs and they don't want stats off the charts.  What do they
> do?  They pass gun laws in hopes that the _undersirables_ will follow them
> and disarm like good sheeple.  It started in Cali and has made it's way
> into other major cities.  It's not just gun laws either.  It's drug laws,
> 3 strikes and your out laws, etc..  I don't consider a bunch of hill jacks
> in robes the Klan anymore, hell at least the minorities of Indiana can go
> out and buy a gun for protection.  Those that live in L.A. have to rely on
> the LAPD for protection.  No wonder so many of my friends are refusing to
> registar their guns in KKKali.  Would YOU trust the LAPD?
> 
> 
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Subject: [mw] garage days

It all starts at the record store.  You go in and you puruse the racks for something to buy to play.  There is only so much total science, digital, zinc, pascal and hype that comes out in a given week.  So you go to something else, to keep you warm at night.  And right next to the dnb is two step garage... staring at you longingly.

Its not like its a sin, you know.  But the feeling is coming back again.  Back in the day when I used to get up on the decks and spin dnb and have people throw shit at me.  Back when we fought what was called the breakbeat wars.  Nowadays everyone loves their jungle... and in some ways I think its a contributing factor in the death of it... You've heard the rant before... It starts at the distributor... The people who supply the records to the record stores.  Until a new type of distributor exists, one that actually gives a fuck (bigups groove distribution) about the future of music... It will eat itself from the inside... because same sounding records sell... and people hate change... and when the distributor hears something that challenges change... the distributor denies its release.

So at its root, drum and bass is stagnant.  There's only so many dubplates that I can cut at 50 dollars a head.  There's only so much time I have in the studio to make new shit while working a 9-5, running a label and all that it entails, and taking classes.  So I need a break... and retirement is not a fucking answer.

So I'll tell you a story... long before I even heard of GARAGE... I heard 138 trek.  And no I didn't hear it through the grapevine... or in europe... 

I bought a record entitled DJ ZINC "BEATS BY DESIGN EP"  its no fucking secret I worship the man... I could go on for days about his production technique and his musical prowess... but the final track on that 3 pack... was 138 trek... innocently enough... a small joint at the end of an album... a joint that basically stayed playing in our household for months to come... I wrote him a letter after that... essentially that track changed my life... And now of course I never want to hear another remix of it again... but still...

Logical progression folks... evolution... stuff that people usually can't understand... There's stuff in garage that I hate as much as the next cat... cheesy rnb ripoffs... shitty basslines... you name it... you know what though... dnb irks me just as fucking much...

music is goddamn music... There were people that were upset with me playing 20 minutes of dnb and 40 minutes of garage on saturday.  So if tomorrow I lose all my supposed 'fans' for liking a form of fucking music thats a logical progression... then so fucking be it.  Where does it say in the almighty RAVE LAW of dj'ing that a motherfucking artist can't express himself freely.   How closeminded is that... looks like i have to fight the breakbeat wars all fucking over again...

meanwhile in our car, rees urban's garage tape gets the play... with me babbling on in the front seat playing shotgun emcee... and you know what... maybe thats a wake up call to drum and bass... I am your biggest fan... and yet, it sounds to me like you are getting old and tired... sluggish really and i think you'd better change your nasty ways...  I'm not saying I'm going to stop playing the game... I've already stopped supporting the same old shit with a different name... and two step along with dubplates are part of that rebellion.  If you didn't already see that coming.

on a brighter note... pascal and zinc's "director's cut" ep arrives today in the mail along with total science "street level"

hopefully that'll make me proud.

entro
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At 10:05 PM 1/28/01 -0500, chrise@pubnix.org wrote:
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>let's get all pissed off!


Fuck you!  I'm sick of yer shit I refused to get pisssed off you goddamn
whitey SOB mofo##%)&(


um did that suffice? (at least for my part?)

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ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2001
IN LEXINGTON, KY
ENTICE WILL TAKE YOU...


HIGHER!



Line-Up:

.. DJ Spree (minneapolis, mn)  vs.  Valerie Sparks (san francisco, ca) ..
.. Cloudskipper (san francisco, ca)  vs.  Muppetfucker (austin, tx) .. 2X4
.. Matt Positive (chicago, il) ..
.. DJ Entropy (boston, ma) ..
.. Tilzs (minneapolis, mn) ..
.. DJ Resistor (washington, dc) ..
.. DJ Eor (south bend, in) ..


General Information:


.. 9000 sq. feet of clean, virgin, secure space with plenty of parking and bathrooms!
.. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals from our friends at Project 7!
.. Free toys and giveaways to ticket holders!
.. R.O.A.R. in full effect! No alcohol, drugs, firearms, open containers, markers, backpacks or drama. You will be searched at the door by our firm and friendly security staff. Please respect the venue and each other. Please dress warmly. Coat check will be provided.


Ticket Information:

Pre-sales tickets are now on sale until January 31 (JUST 2 MORE DAYS!!). Pre-sale ticket holders will have entry priority and receive a free toy at the door. Those of you travelling 300 miles or more (approx. 5 hours driving time) will get in at pre-sale cost (proof of travel is required). We do, however, everyone to purchase pre-sale tickets as this event will sell out quickly! Only 800 tickets will be sold!
.. Pre-sale tickets: $12.00
.. At the door: $15.00 w/ a new coloring book; $17.00 w/out
Tickets can be purchased at 808 Records on S. Limestone near the UK Campus in Lexington. If not in the Lexington area, tickets can be obtained with a credit card or check via phone - 859.252.9808..

MAIN INFO LINE - 859.288.4599
WEBSITE - HTTP://WWW.ENTICE.NU
E-MAIL - INFO@ENTICE.NU
PRE-SALE TICKETS - 859.252.9808

DIRECTIONS FROM ALL MAJOR HIGHWAYS ARE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. THEY WILL ALSO BE FORWARDED TO MAILING LISTS AND POSTED ON OUR INFO LINE ON WEDNESDAY, JAN 31.


Mikhail Khaimov / DJ Tsar

Entice, Level 9.0
http://djtsar.com
http://www.entice.nu
859.288.4599


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From mw-raves-return-15859-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 16:50:28 2001
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    Hey tsar, is there supposed to be another zero in there somewhere? Maybe
it's just thanks to mile high and woody's wall-o-bass, but I think if anyone
around here advertised that they only had 25,000 watts of sound they'd be
laughed at. Is this a club event? It doesn't sound like it... Now I can't
say I know what an average party around here has wattage-wise, hell I don't
know what we had at my own parties, but I know the biggest systems (mile
high) have around 250,000-300,000 watts of sound, and I'd think average
would hover around 100,000 watts, are we all just completely deaf over here
or what?

PS- I like the lineup, I'd be there if I could.

PPS - Project 7 sounds like a damn cool group, I'm not knocking them, just
trying to figure out if that's a normal amount of sound for a party out
there...

> .. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals
from our friends at Project 7!

Matt Murphy
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...then blame yourself.


you are the creator of your reality


simple.


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From mw-raves-return-15861-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 17:32:53 2001
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> you are the creator of your reality

i had an old boyfriend who used to tell me this all the time. he moved to
california and i think he lives in a tree now.

i'm not going to start one of these ARE THE MOLECULES REAL?? what-is-
reality threads, but i'd say the trick lies more in perception than
creation.

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From mw-raves-return-15862-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 18:11:09 2001
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> > you are the creator of your reality
>
> i had an old boyfriend who used to tell me this all the time. he moved to
> california and i think he lives in a tree now.
>
> i'm not going to start one of these ARE THE MOLECULES REAL?? what-is-
> reality threads, but i'd say the trick lies more in perception than
> creation.

    Ahh, good point jes. Reality is all in perception, and only you control
how you perceive the world. If you perceive the world as hostile and ready
to take advantage of you at any moment, that is what you will experience, if
you perceive the world as a place full of opportunity and friendly faces,
that is what you will experience. I feel for those living in a world stacked
against them, it seems there's a few of them on this list...

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From mw-raves-return-15863-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 18:17:26 2001
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>     Ahh, good point jes. Reality is all in perception, and only you control
> how you perceive the world. If you perceive the world as hostile and ready
> to take advantage of you at any moment, that is what you will experience, if
> you perceive the world as a place full of opportunity and friendly faces,
> that is what you will experience. I feel for those living in a world stacked
> against them, it seems there's a few of them on this list...

...and to make this rave related, the was a party named perception. 

OH IT ALL JUST COMES TOGETHER!!

/j









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Yeah, keep thinking it's a democrat - republican battle and you'll miss the
boat.. fuck the demopublicans or republicrats (whichever you wish). It's
really about freedom vs. slavery.

This also explains the current US Government's cold
heartedness toward the California Utility Problem...
everyone knows that California went Democratic during
the elections...this is the Republican way at getting 
back at them!!

Remember kiddies...the government agenda now is
to keep you ignorant and too broke to leave your house!!
...don't be fooled by the deceptions!!

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From mw-raves-return-15865-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 19:09:42 2001
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wow i've got one of those warm-fuzzy feelings in my stomach

mwraves has reaffirmed my faith once more!

oh wait...i think it's just that chinese i had for lunch...

...um...excuse me...


perceive this!!


> From: j3s <jes@pubnix.org>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:13:47 -0500 (EST)
> To: midwest bullshit <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: [mw] if you wanna blame someone...
> 
> 
>> Ahh, good point jes. Reality is all in perception, and only you control
>> how you perceive the world. If you perceive the world as hostile and ready
>> to take advantage of you at any moment, that is what you will experience, if
>> you perceive the world as a place full of opportunity and friendly faces,
>> that is what you will experience. I feel for those living in a world stacked
>> against them, it seems there's a few of them on this list...
> 
> ...and to make this rave related, the was a party named perception.
> 
> OH IT ALL JUST COMES TOGETHER!!
> 
> /j
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mw-raves-return-15866-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 19:12:05 2001
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> local scene. now, im not gonna get all plurry on
> yall (thats pixie's job), 

excuse me??

oh yeah, the rave reminiscence bits...ya shutup.

tell your friend from memphis that you still rule my
world, and dica YES I STILL LOVE YOU!

i'm catching up...dear lord i still have 200+ emails
and the mw drama of the weekend to get through.
lovins
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> i HOWEVER, have done pixie in the butt.....spread
> that on your honey wheat 
> with your ky-jelly rumors...
> <3laura

it's true.

laura took my ass-virginity.

still catching up...
pixie


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> i'm not saying i'll kill it... i'm saying it will
> die. 
> i guess, if stevies not allowed to make predictions
> neither should i. 

and if stevie is allowed to post whatever he wants,
whenever he wants, then so should everyone else.

you said once chad, that you decided to let stevie
stay and post as much as he wanted because, and i do
paraphrase, you felt he was good for the list, that he
was, in essence, a monster of our own creation for
everyone elses whims on the list.

you said once, after i spoke with you privately about
stevie's private e-mails to me where he threatened my
life and made some pretty psychotic innuendoes that
kept me awake for a few nights that "he didn't really
pose a threat" and refused to unsub him, regardless of
my own concerns for MY SAFETY.

so your decision at that point was that there should
be no moderation to the list. now, suddenly, things
have changed. and in my opinion, that change has come
froma dissatisfaction from the results of your
administration at the time. in other words, by letting
stevie stay and post out of control, you opened it up
for everyone to do the same. 

tell me, why should we care now?

i'm getting deeper into this thread, and more and more
angry each post. will i unsub? doubtful. will i lose
respect and faith for others on this list? that
remains to be seen.

pixie



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From mw-raves-return-15869-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 19:44:45 2001
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>tell me, why should we care now?

VRAVE'S BACK UP SEE YOU THERE!#$%!#%!

mk
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From mw-raves-return-15870-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 19:55:39 2001
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> tell me, why should we care now?
> 
> i'm getting deeper into this thread, and more and
> more
> angry each post. will i unsub? doubtful. will i lose
> respect and faith for others on this list? that
> remains to be seen.

*shrug*

guess i'll wait til in plays itself out.


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you are kidding.

please tell me you are not kidding.

i have no telnet at work =[

pixie (looked)

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> >tell me, why should we care now?
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> VRAVE'S BACK UP SEE YOU THERE!#$%!#%!
> 
> mk


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On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 11:56:33AM -0800, pixie wrote:
> you are kidding.
> 
> please tell me you are not kidding.
> 
> i have no telnet at work =[
> 
> pixie (looked)

[atomly@atomly:atomly]$telnet hyperreal.org 7283
Trying 209.133.83.16...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

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>the government agenda now is
>to keep you ignorant and too broke to leave your >house!!


okay, can we quit with the stupid fucking conspiracy shit, over all??  okay?  i mean jesus, we're all starting to sound as if to have done a lil (well, WAY) too much acid in our day.  have you come up with a reason WHY the government wants to get you, or make it so you cant have a good time?  have you ever thought to yourself "hey...even if there IS a huge government that sits and plots and watches me, they're doing a good fucking job cause a) i have noticed them peering through my window at night, and b)everything works out"  so who cares?!  jesus.  thinking the government, or some "illuminati" like super power watches over everyone, all the time, is in my opinion, no less absurd than the very principal of santa claus existing  (sorry to crack the news.  but santa claus isnt real...i know for some of you, christmas just wont be the same now...).  okay, so thats my 2.5 cents, BITCH!!  im gonna go get stoopid fresh on a smoke before i bite someones head off.  aaron.


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From mw-raves-return-15874-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Jan 29 20:12:24 2001
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Subject: [mw] re: to what kid entro said

(i accidentally mailed this to hyperreal.com, and cut/pasted it from the mailer daemon thingy)...

that sucks that you dont like the shit you loved anymore.  me neither, come
to think of it.  i think most electronic music is becoming pretty shitty,
actually.  i mean house: what has really come out that was new and really
really good that made any sort of impact since basement jaxx?  cause everyone
wants to make that upbeat hard clubbin structured song that gets coke
commerical play.  trance (or at least in mpls):  what's new about trance now
that oakie's as big as he is?  every trance track ive heard as of late has
either been shitty right off the bat, or started out with promise, buuuuuut
the breakdown had unneccesarry(<--- i can never spell that word) vocals, and
waving progressive sounds...people just DONT know how to produce.  its cause
(i think) electronic music is about being the opposite of popular music, and
dealing with creationism, and exploration...but now people just want an easy
one off big selling hit.  god, that really sucks ass a lot.  my 2 cents. 
aaron.

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"i have noticed them"

by have, i meant haven't

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Subject: [mw] ne1 go to synchronicity?

im so shitty that no1 n either of these lists cared to make it out to our 
party. i posted so much shit about it and no1 even responded owell your 
loss!!!!
anyone who did go go ahead and let me know what ya thought

Gabe
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Hi everyone...

I'm new to the list but not to the scene. My husband and I (husband??
yeah most ppl think that means I'm old or something but I'm only 21 and
he is only 26) have been living here for a while. I'm originally from
Chicago and that's where it all started for me. Anyways, recently we
found out that his job is going to be moving us to Florida for 6 months
and then to Kansas City. Does anyone know anything about the FL scene?
Good/Bad? Jungle/House/Techno? Or anything about Kansas City for that
matter. I'm not really looking foward to the move, anything to make it
look better would make me feel better.

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> i'm not going to start one of these ARE THE
> MOLECULES REAL?? 

oh! oh! please??!

either that or a "YOU'RE A COP FERSHURE" or a blast
from the past about how Luke Montiero's head is bigger
than his penis. please?!

nostalgic for some good ol' mw-raves
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> Or anything about
> Kansas City for that
> matter. 

beware of anyone who offers you a dollar to kiss them.
;]
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> beware of anyone who offers you a dollar to kiss them.
> ;]

I GOT A REFUND!!!

/j







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 Heh good question. To give you an example, they used the same exact sound system to power up Interstella Dreamfest's second stage; Technosaurus (where the main room fits about 2000 people), etc. This sound system is actually too big for our venue if anything. We can certainly say that we're using a 200 000 watt sound system to make us sound cool, because hell everybody else does it. But truly there's very few sound systems out there with as much wattage and clarity as Project 7. For example, if a subwoofer can handle around 1,000-1,500 watts of sound (which is like...a lot), we're talking about 20 stacks of sound! Besides, it's really the decibels that matter not the watts. Believe me you'll need ear plugs for this bitch =)

  Matt Murphy <murph@mr.net> wrote: 

Hey tsar, is there supposed to be another zero in there somewhere? Maybe
it's just thanks to mile high and woody's wall-o-bass, but I think if anyone
around here advertised that they only had 25,000 watts of sound they'd be
laughed at. Is this a club event? It doesn't sound like it... Now I can't
say I know what an average party around here has wattage-wise, hell I don't
know what we had at my own parties, but I know the biggest systems (mile
high) have around 250,000-300,000 watts of sound, and I'd think average
would hover around 100,000 watts, are we all just completely deaf over here
or what?

PS- I like the lineup, I'd be there if I could.

PPS - Project 7 sounds like a damn cool group, I'm not knocking them, just
trying to figure out if that's a normal amount of sound for a party out
there...

> .. 25,000 watts of concert quality sound, intelligent lighting and visuals
from our friends at Project 7!

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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Subject: [mw] hrm..perhaps you alreay knew...

im not sure if this has been posted before, but....
not to start another mw-political-flame-war, but have you guys tried going
to http://www.google.com and typing in "dumb motherfucker" as your search?
you probably wont be surprised at the results...
:p
val

valerie valenzo...valerie@uchicago.edu...aim:valeriev304...thatsall.


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Subject: [mw] A Rant for you guys , wasRE: [mw] the next big thing

so i just went out to coffee with one of my oldest and most cynical friends 
who went to his first protest this summer in D.C. and we started talking about 
this whole "conspicarcy " thing. It really isnt that far fetched...or hidden 
though, look at WTO, NAFTA, and the rest of the global agencies that are 
supposed to be helping out the people...we all know they are not doing that 
they are just looking for more ways to make themselves more money and still 
keep the lower classes happy enough so they dont start an all out labor 
strike...but more and more people are noticing and starting to educate 
themselves about the atriocitys of globalization...see the thing stevie t 
doesnt get is that while it might seem that THEY(yes i am using that wonderful 
anyomounous phrase, for simplicity) are just a bunch of racisit fuckheads...it 
is just another way to separte people ,keep them from working together, it is 
a class issue, its a people thang, sepaerate and divide the classes into even 
smaller subsections that fight amongst themselves and they wont have the time 
or energy to fight the system for the rights this country is supposed to stand 
for...i dont know where i am going with this ramble really i am just pissed 
off at all the fuked up shit that is going on in this world and how much time 
and energy is spent trying to deny that nothing is wrong or who is behind it 
when it could be spent on trying to change it...working in your nieghberhood, 
your local community, building something you can be proud of , something that 
actually benifits yourself and your family and friends.

i dont know 
like i said i am scared shitless about all of it
i try to do my part...but it frustrating to see how many people(myself 
included in this sometimes) sit on there ass and bitch when there is stuff 
they can do to change it.

I miss being active aas i have taken a break on alot of shit this winter...i 
guess it is time forme to get reinvolved,for all you in milwaukee.if you have 
some time to volunteer..there is a great food coop that needs help in 
riverwest also a couple pirate radio stations that could use a new influx of 
people and energy... so if any of this moved you to think about shit other 
then riding my ass for an idealist let me know and maybe we can do something 
worthwhile
thats it

whendee

P.S. and if you will notice my bad grammer and spelling thats public schools 
for you...man i cant wait till the whole country gets the voucher 
system...bush is such an idiot




P.S.



>>the government agenda now is
>>to keep you ignorant and too broke to leave your >house!!
>
>
>okay, can we quit with the stupid fucking conspiracy shit, over all??  okay?  
i mean jesus, we're all starting to sound as if to have done a lil (well, WAY) 
too much acid in our day.  have you come up with a reason WHY the government 
wants to get
>you, or make it so you cant have a good time?  have you ever thought to 
yourself "hey...even if there IS a huge government that sits and plots and 
watches me, they're doing a good fucking job cause a) i have noticed them 
peering through my window
>at night, and b)everything works out"  so who cares?!  jesus.  thinking the 
government, or some "illuminati" like super power watches over everyone, all 
the time, is in my opinion, no less absurd than the very principal of santa 
claus existing
>(sorry to crack the news.  but santa claus isnt real...i know for some of 
you, christmas just wont be the same now...).  okay, so thats my 2.5 cents, 
BITCH!!  im gonna go get stoopid fresh on a smoke before i bite someones head 
off.  aaron.
>
>
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I've got a shitload of them... You might want to include your full name
and address... Any particular reason why you need/want them?? I want to
know my babies are going to a good home.


On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Full Spectrum wrote:

> Okay, I'm looking for any "rave" fliers that date
> prior to '96.  I don't care what city, state, or
> country they're coming from...If any of you would be
> so kind as to mail them to me, I would definitely
> appreciate it...
>
> luis/fs
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Subject: [mw] intellifeforms presents:  E A R T H  I N V E R S E  2 . 1 6 . 0 1

intellifeforms proudly presents

EARTH INVERSE
2.16.01
LEXINGTON KY

**the first 50 people through the door will recieve a
free multi media mix cd from trevor lamont and matthew
bandy (this is the first mix release trevor lamont has
put out in 4 years!)**

also a full rig of turbo sound!   and a masage theropy
booth!!

FEATURING:

KEVIN YOST

_Kevin can be summed up in two words: unique
producer. His unique style, a jazz and house fusion,
has given him world reknown recognition. Kevin's
talents have taken him to prestigious labels like i!
Recordings, Distant Music, Guidance and such major
labels as Polygram and Sony. Not only has he put
releases out on such prestigeous labels but Kevin has
done remixes for the likes of Eric Clapton, Every
Thing
But the Girl, Josh Wink, and Japan's Kodo Drumers. As
well as his production skills Kevin has proved to be a
powerful skilled DJ by playing at Venues in Germany,
Japan, Switzerland England, France, Canada, and of
course all over the US. His current production
schedule provides him with little if no time for
anything else. We are honord to welcome Kevin to
Lexington KY for and intimate evening and a very
special 3 hour performance. 

TRAXX

_What can be said about Mel that hasn't been said
before? Amazing? Unique? He holds international fame
with residencies all over the world. We have seen this
DJ do things that no other DJ has ever done. If you
have seen him before you know what we are talking
about. Its been a while since he has visited the
midwest. You dont want to miss this DJ's set cause you
won't know when he will be back

TWILIGHT SLEEP

_America's only live drum and bass act! This group of
five technological pioneers will be working the
circuits and flipping the switches to deliver a
symphony of thump directly to your cerebral cortex.
Don't miss Twilights first Lexington performance so
you can say, "I saw them back when...."

MATT SYNTAX

Coming from chicago Matt has a unique style of deep
techno. His music provokes the mind and warms the
soul. He honestly has an individual style all of his
own. Matt will be making his first Lexington
appearance as well. Dont miss his early morning set!

TSAR

Originally from Russia Tsar now resides in Lexington.
He is one of the Midwest's most talented trance DJ's.
It is amazing to think this DJ has played all over the
country in such cities as LA, Denver, Detroit,
Pittsburgh, and Albequrque and has not yet played in
his home town. His Style ranges from progressive to
hard and dark trance.

DJ KELL

A veteran DJ with over 13 years of experience behind
the decks, he has been mixing records longer than most
of
you kids have been out of your diapers. Kell has
played all over the Midwest since moving from
Baltimore to Lexington in 1989! Stunning crowds with a
unique blend of French House, Disco, and Hard House,
he generates a relentless assault of funky beats
thatleaves dance floors breathless.

Robin Baker

Robin is one of the main forces behind Intellifeforms.
His first Lexington appearence was at one of NateFX's
Late Night parties. When Robin closed the night he had
everyone dancing until his last record. His opening
set tonight will start this party off right!!

$15 before 11:00 $20 after

for more info check the following:
web_www.intellifeforms.com
lan_859.296.7820
ema_deephousesouldier@yahoo.com



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Subject: [mw] March 31st (among other things)

In regards to March 31st (among other things) . . .=20


    I would like to start by interjecting that I am deeply discouraged by=20
some of the postings I=E2=80=99ve been reading on all of these bulletin boar=
ds.  That=20
is not to say I don=E2=80=99t believe that everyone is entitled to their own=
 opinion,=20
but . . . I think we should all back those opinions up with facts before we=20
stand behind them with any confidence.  If you are willing to listen, then I=
=20
am willing to share with you some facts regarding March 31st and other gross=
=20
misunderstandings you might have about Scarab Records.  I know that almost=20
all of you enjoy our events and support our efforts, but there are still som=
e=20
of you out there who =E2=80=9Clove to hate us,=E2=80=9D for reasons we hones=
tly do not=20
understand, so I guess this letter is mostly intended for you.
    Jason and Jon and I have been throwing electronic music events as Scarab=
=20
Records for over 2 years now.  From the beginning, we have done nothing but=20
positive things for this city, bringing first time talent of every caliber,=20
from superstar DJs to the kid next door.  We will always stand up for the=20
music we write and promote, and we will make no excuses for our decisions. =20
Since Jason and I are song writers and we perform our own music we have a=20
deep understanding of how things work, but not only that, a deep love for=20
music in general, including all genres, not just electronic.  So without=20
saying, we do this for our love of music and not for the money, period.
    It saddens me when I see a negative posting about our company, because w=
e=20
work so damn hard at what we do.  We spend enormous amounts of time, energy=20
and money trying to lift and build our community and our culture to the leve=
l=20
of respect that it has long deserved.  As I have said before, sometimes we=20
make money and sometimes we don=E2=80=99t.  I don=E2=80=99t see anything wro=
ng with making a=20
little money when you are doing what you love.  I think all of us can agree=20
with that.  First you have to love what you do, and when that happens the=20
money will follow, money is just a nice bonus but definitely not a necessity=
.=20
 I=E2=80=99m sure a lot of you who attend our events are going to school to=20=
get a=20
degree in order to make money at something you love.  Well, this is our job,=
=20
entertaining you, and we all have to pay the bills, furthermore, if we didn=
=E2=80=99t=20
make any money we would not be able to continue throwing these events as=20
often as we do.  If we didn=E2=80=99t love what we did we wouldn=E2=80=99t t=
hrow these=20
events as often as we do anyway, trust me, it is not easy having an event=20
every month.  We hold these events once a month to keep the scene alive and=20
healthy and constantly growing.  I see it as a good thing, something this=20
city desperately needs, some fucking culture other than sports.  This is als=
o=20
something I think we can all agree on.  We also use everything in our power=20
to keep illegal substances out of our events, and we try to abide by all the=
=20
laws necessary to keep these events safe and fun for everyone.  We are here=20
to entertain and provide an all ages show.  So for those of you who dislike=20
what we do, just remember, we do this for you and for the music.  You can=20
disagree with us if you like, but after all, when you look at it in it=E2=
=80=99s=20
simplest form, we are just a record company holding an all night show for th=
e=20
purpose of entertainment.  I think we could all spend our energy hating=20
something a little more worth while, I mean come on.
    As far as those of you who support us, don=E2=80=99t be afraid to voice=20=
your=20
opinions, nobody is going to think you are =E2=80=9Criding our jock,=E2=80=
=9D that is the=20
most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.  When you enjoy what someone does o=
r=20
what they stand up for, be heard, don=E2=80=99t bury your head in the sand.=20=
 Just=20
because our company throws big events and throws them all the time doesn=E2=
=80=99t=20
mean they are of any less quality, in fact, we strive to make them more=20
original and better every time.  Our goal is to create environments that are=
=20
truly unique experiences, memorable and entertaining.  =E2=80=9CDon=E2=80=
=99t believe the=20
hype,=E2=80=9D some say, I say =E2=80=9CDon=E2=80=99t believe the bullshit,=
=E2=80=9D cause you=E2=80=99re gonna=20
hear a lot of it.  If you want to know the truth don=E2=80=99t be afraid to=20=
write us=20
and ask us what is going on, we=E2=80=99ll tell you the truth.  The truth re=
presents=20
everything we stand for.
    Now, I don=E2=80=99t like to dwell on negative subjects, but I feel this=
 needs to=20
be said, especially in light of recent events.  Please read this carefully=20
and make up your own mind accordingly.  There are some production companies=20
out there who don=E2=80=99t want you to know the truth.  Why you ask?  Becau=
se it=20
would destroy them.  Some of these events you are all going to are run by=20
drug dealers, promoters with nothing but their own self interests in mind. =20
Runners are bought and paid, and even some cops bought and paid.  This is=20
something our scene and our culture must battle against!  Electronic music=20
will never survive in this atmosphere.  We don=E2=80=99t need to hear the ru=
mors, we=20
know the truth.  So without releasing any names, just be careful who you giv=
e=20
your $20 to next time you want to go have some fun.  There is still a lot of=
=20
trash that needs to be cleaned up in this city before we can call what we do=
=20
=E2=80=9Cunity=E2=80=9D.  Respect is a two way street, and we at Scarab will=
 only respect=20
those who respect the music and our scene.  Our events are clean and always=20
have been from day one.  None of us at Scarab use drugs or condone the use o=
f=20
drugs.  We don=E2=80=99t even smoke ;-)  We get our high from the music, and=
 shoot me=20
if I=E2=80=99m wrong, but isn=E2=80=99t that why we are all in this together=
?  You will not=20
find a stronger crew and one more willing to fight for our rights than us,=20
trust me.

Onto March 31st . . .=20

    We are not throwing this event against anyone, this is not a competition=
,=20
you should know us better than that by now.  We are very respectful of=20
peoples dates and ALWAYS have been, just as other promoters have been=20
respectful of ours.  I know the Double e crew declared March 31st about 5=20
years ago (some sarcasm), as promoters we all declare a lot of dates.  BUT,=20
we also move our dates around for each other quite a bit too, it=E2=80=99s v=
ery=20
common practice and it happens all the time.  We know the Double e crew is=20
new and maybe they are not familiar with how we all try to work together, bu=
t=20
this kind of compromise has been going on since the beginning of our scene.=20=
=20
We ourselves moved three of our summer dates around so that they didn=E2=80=
=99t=20
conflict with dates in Louisville, as too did the Louisville promoter move=20
dates for us.  I am just using this as an example in order to let you know=20
that we all move dates around and try to work together, even with=20
out-of-state promoters.
    Here is the dilemma:  We have been trying to book Aphrodite for 2 years.=
 =20
Finally just three weeks ago we got the phone call we had been waiting for.=20=
=20
We asked for March 17th, our original date, but the only date he was=20
available was March 31st.  Immediately we knew we had to contact the Double=20=
e=20
crew to try and flip-flop dates.  We offered them our original date and any=20
assistance they would need in moving their date.  We know AK1200 has a prett=
y=20
open schedule, he plays the midwest all the time, so we knew it wouldn=E2=
=80=99t be a=20
problem for them to juggle their schedule around a little bit (mind you, thi=
s=20
was before they had booked Craze.)  We however had no choice other than that=
=20
date.  And trust me when I say this, Aphrodite only comes to the US on tour=20
about twice a year and only for about 2 weeks at a time, so naturally he wil=
l=20
normally play the larger markets, not Indiana.  This time we got lucky. =20
However, the Double e crew did not see this offer in the same light, and=20
basically, in so many words told us they were not willing to work around eac=
h=20
others schedules.  Like I said before, we offered them our original date and=
=20
really did try to find some way to make it work.
    As we all know Aphrodite is considered by many to be an international=20
superstar, so you can=E2=80=99t just book him whenever you like, you have to=
 take him=20
when he is offered to you, and if you don=E2=80=99t, good luck getting him a=
gain,=20
especially in this town.  Furthermore, he has never played here before. =20
Also, when you get someone like Aphrodite you find out about 6-8 weeks in=20
advance, you don=E2=80=99t book him 6 months in advance, that=E2=80=99s just=
 not the way it=20
works, and any good promoter can tell you that, so again, we didn=E2=80=99t=20=
have much=20
choice.
    We corresponded with both Double e and Evil Twin several times via e-mai=
l=20
and the phone, but to no avail.  Pride and ego and money have no place in=20
this for us, they never have.  We know that in their eyes we are =E2=80=9CTh=
e Evil=20
Egyptian Empire,=E2=80=9D out to crush the scene, but as you all know, or mo=
st of=20
you, we are pretty laid back and that is not our intention at all, in fact,=20
that is the farthest thing from what we want for our scene.  We actually=20
think it=E2=80=99s funny that they try to make us out as the =E2=80=9Cbig ba=
d promoters,=E2=80=9D=20
because for anyone who really knows us, they know that we are a very positiv=
e=20
influence on the scene and that we are all the most dedicated bunch of party=
=20
kids in this city.  I=E2=80=99m sure Double e and Evil Twin will continue to=
 play the=20
hate card for quite some time and continue to ridicule us as well, so be it,=
=20
we can take it, because we know who we are and what we stand for, we won=E2=
=80=99t=20
play that game.  We are dedicated to bringing great talent and that=E2=80=
=99s all. =20
We could have easily worked something out with them and could have both=20
thrown 2 great events on 2 different nights, we could have both come out=20
winners in this situation, it would have been very very easy and most=20
importantly it would have been best for the scene.  Unfortunately, the=20
e-mails we received in return were rude and uncompromising, full of vulgar=20
language and insults.  So, we tried as best we could, what more can I say.
    Let me make this very clear; we wish no ill will toward either Double e=20
or Evil Twin.  Although we may not agree with their ethics and past behavior=
,=20
we will not combat this situation with negative arguments, there is always=20
room for a peaceful resolve.  We will leave this predicament alone, and=20
hopefully, we can both hold two successful events on the same evening.

Finally . . .=20

    I know some of you will probably still find this letter unsatisfying, an=
d=20
that=E2=80=99s unfortunate.  But I want you all to know, music is our life.=20=
=20
Everything we do is for the music, and we strongly believe that when you lov=
e=20
it as much as we do, all else will prevail.  What we represent is the love o=
f=20
music in it=E2=80=99s purest form.  I don=E2=80=99t need to sit here and tel=
l you about how=20
much we do for the scene, about our charity events or about our non-profit=20
organizations that we run, hopefully you see that already and understand why=
=20
we do what we do.  The last thing I feel we need to do is defend ourselves,=20
especially when you consider how long we have been supporting and defending=20
the very scene we all enjoy participating in every weekend.  We are strong a
dvocates of electronic music and we do everything in our power to empower=20
our culture, a culture we are not new to, a culture we have been supporting=20
for a long long time.  This is a culture we consider our family.

    In closing, I would like to thank everyone who has positively supported=20
us over the last four years as a record company and over the last 2 years as=
=20
a promotional company.  We are very encouraged by the progress electronic=20
music has made locally, and we will continue to fight for the freedom of thi=
s=20
form of music and the culture that supports it.


Peace and love,


Kevin M. Ahern
Scarab Records

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What's the cheapest and/or coolest place to get mastering from CD to vinyl
and runs of vinyl? I'm looking for places that already work with the
underground dance labels and artists and do small runs for not too much. I
already have the typical ones you get on search engines, so anyone know any
I might not have already in my faveorites folder?
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> and runs of vinyl? I'm looking for places that already work with the
> underground dance labels and artists and do small runs for not too much. I
> already have the typical ones you get on search engines, so anyone know any
> I might not have already in my faveorites folder?

How big is a small run?

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Subject: [mw] turntable questions

what does the anti-skate wheel do?
what are the differences between the mk2'z and the 3'z?

Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
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Subject: [mw] vacations, ravers in junior high, state of mw-raves

hello you guys... I had to wade through about 2500 emails when I got back.
it took me almost 3 hours.

I'm back from my 2 week vacation in COLD! Florida... Actually the first
week was really nice, weather wise and the second week was freaking
cold... =( I got to meet Mickey Mouse, thus satisfying my fetish for a
while...

This is for Michael Knight... I saw Britney Spears live and in person at a
club in Ybor city on Thursday night...

Anyhow, I'm back... I had fun. My dog needs a haircut in the WORST way.

I wanted to address a couple of things today...

First of all, I know she's already gone, and I plan to email her
personally, but Candice is 14/15 years old. Telling her she can't do
something isn't going to help the situation. Insulting her and blaming the
downfall of the scene on people just like her isn't going to help... She's
14/15! She has a lot of growing-up and learning about life to do. Instead
of playing like Mello-Yello (sorry, but I think you went too far) and
reading her the riot act, you need to deal with her in a different manner.
Do I know what I'm talking about? Yes, I teach junior high... =) My kids
are the same age are she is... I hope I know what I'm talking about. But I
do agree, she's way too young to go to parties, but she's also young
enough that she can't see or understand the danger in it. She sees all her
friends going, and since 14 year old girls are very much about the crowd
mentality and doing what everyone else does, telling her she's too young
isn't going to sit right. She can't see the people at parties who aren't
really her friends, might want to take advantage of her, and only want her
to attend due to the fact that she puts more money in her pocket. Candice
hasn't lived long enough to be able to see the danger in some situations
(at least danger for a 14/15 year old). Don't get me started on her
parents and what she says. (What she says about them can very well be
quite different from the actual realistic home situation.) So in all,
she's gone, she's 15, let's drop it, and in the future try to think about
these things the next time a 15 year old comes along.


The state of mw-raves...

If you want an honest opinion, this list hasn't really been about parties
and party reviews, and all things rave-related in close to 4 years... We
get the occasional good rave-related thread going, but not so often. I've
learned to deal with it. I kind of like it the way it is now, with a
couple of exceptions. I honestly feel closer to the people on here now
than I used to, but maybe that's cause I know practically everyone, or
something, maybe I'm older, who really knows? The insults and sarcasm, I
think tend to be thrown around to people who can deal with it. I know
Micah's gone, but if I called him a pussy, he'd be able to take it like
the bitch he is and not run and cry to his mommy. Trading insults and
zingers is something we tend to do with each other in person, and i can
see how it continues over into the realm of the internet. Maybe we
shouldn't be to quick to insult and scare off the newbies to the list, so
that's something I'm willing to try to work on. I don't know if anyone
else is, but I'll give it my effort... I think saying the the removal of
people who "abuse" others on the list is a bit drastic. We like to abuse
one another, and some of us like to be abused. I don't mind a few well
thought out insults and teasing, most of you know I can deal with it.
MAybe the abuse of people who don't get it, or are really new to the list
and still feeling it and us out (ooohhh getting felt-up), needs to be
taken down a few notches...

I'm also resovling to try to insert more "rave" related things to the list
too, like maybe a review of a club night or party or something, when I've
actually been able to attend.

Okay, that's about all I have to say for now. =)

-- 
-Becky =)

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does any1 know how to contact Will?

Gabe

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||I guess Cali is made up of relatives from the Klan leaders of the old south.

And this startling revelation was based on them not wanting the average person running around with
an AK-47? Fascinating! 

||Underground bunkers?  What the hell are you talking about?

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Subject: Re: [mw] turntable questions

> what does the anti-skate wheel do?

the anti-skate wheel controls/minimises the skating action of a tonearm
horizontally across the record

> what are the differences between the mk2'z and the 3'z?

there are a few differences, the easiest way to list the differences is by
listing how the mk3 compares to the mk2...the tables are identical in size,
motor and composition...the mk3 has  a recessed on/off switch...at times the
switch on a mk2 can be accidentaly knocked off with a stray arm...there is a
hole on top of the deck to accomodate an extra cartridge...there is a pitch
reset button...this brings your pitch to zero instantly after you hit the
button from anywhere on the pitch control...the notch that denotes zero on
the mk2 pitch control is gone...the dust cover is now without hinges and
sits on top of the table...ive heard rumours that the pitch control itself
is a digital unit as opposed to the analog mk2...im not talking about a
digital readout, just the circuitry...this hasnt been verified but i can say
the pitch control does feel a little different than the mk2 besides not
having a notch...aside from those relatively minor differences, they should
be nearly identical...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, oh 45206
booking line: 513.766.2007 x1429
djoracle@onebox.com  www.djoracle.com


>
> Gabe
> Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam
> www.JoMamaProductions.Homestead.com
> Gabe_JMP@hotmail.com
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Subject: [mw] this coming weekend ????

anybody know anything going on in the indiana kentucky ohio area this coming 
weekend ??? i need to fuckin vend so i can make some money...i checked the 
calender and cant really find anything going on except that happycore/trance 
party in lexington friday

anybody ? anybody?

-THE bitch iySyS-

Technos not dead, its just really FUCKING TIRED !!!!!!!
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     while sitting in the back of my 3rd hour class 2day half asleep somehow=
=20
the subject of parties and drugs came up...not too long after i heard my=20
teacher bring up raves and how there's nothing but drugs there.......me bein=
g=20
one to voice my opinion perked up and busted out the metaphors i told her=20
that raves were more than drugs and thats not what they're all about=20
(metaphor time) i told her to think like she was buying a car and if they=20
offered a car with a cd player you would buy that one if you were into cd's=20
and if you weren't buy one with a tape player...just like if your into drugs=
=20
and your at a rave fine do em but if your not thats cool......by this time=20
i'm almost yelling and have been told to sit down and shut up...me refusing=20
to gets her pissed and i am suspended for 2 days!  =20
               freedom of.....what? speech? or did i sleep through that=20
chapter too?

                             BRING ON DAYTIME T.V!!!!!!
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Just had to say...this was beautiful. Just beautiful.
Marie

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> It all starts at the record store.  You go in and you puruse the racks for something to buy to play.  There is only so much total science, digital, zinc, pascal and hype that comes out in a given week.  So you go to something else, to keep you warm at night.  And right next to the dnb is two step garage... staring at you longingly.
> 
> Its not like its a sin, you know.  But the feeling is coming back again.  Back in the day when I used to get up on the decks and spin dnb and have people throw shit at me.  Back when we fought what was called the breakbeat wars.  Nowadays everyone loves their jungle... and in some ways I think its a contributing factor in the death of it... You've heard the rant before... It starts at the distributor... The people who supply the records to the record stores.  Until a new type of distributor exists, one that actually gives a fuck (bigups groove distribution) about the future of music... It will eat itself from the inside... because same sounding records sell... and people hate change... and when the distributor hears something that challenges change... the distributor denies its release.
> 
> So at its root, drum and bass is stagnant.  There's only so many dubplates that I can cut at 50 dollars a head.  There's only so much time I have in the studio to make new shit while working a 9-5, running a label and all that it entails, and taking classes.  So I need a break... and retirement is not a fucking answer.
> 
> So I'll tell you a story... long before I even heard of GARAGE... I heard 138 trek.  And no I didn't hear it through the grapevine... or in europe... 
> 
> I bought a record entitled DJ ZINC "BEATS BY DESIGN EP"  its no fucking secret I worship the man... I could go on for days about his production technique and his musical prowess... but the final track on that 3 pack... was 138 trek... innocently enough... a small joint at the end of an album... a joint that basically stayed playing in our household for months to come... I wrote him a letter after that... essentially that track changed my life... And now of course I never want to hear another remix of it again... but still...
> 
> Logical progression folks... evolution... stuff that people usually can't understand... There's stuff in garage that I hate as much as the next cat... cheesy rnb ripoffs... shitty basslines... you name it... you know what though... dnb irks me just as fucking much...
> 
> music is goddamn music... There were people that were upset with me playing 20 minutes of dnb and 40 minutes of garage on saturday.  So if tomorrow I lose all my supposed 'fans' for liking a form of fucking music thats a logical progression... then so fucking be it.  Where does it say in the almighty RAVE LAW of dj'ing that a motherfucking artist can't express himself freely.   How closeminded is that... looks like i have to fight the breakbeat wars all fucking over again...
> 
> meanwhile in our car, rees urban's garage tape gets the play... with me babbling on in the front seat playing shotgun emcee... and you know what... maybe thats a wake up call to drum and bass... I am your biggest fan... and yet, it sounds to me like you are getting old and tired... sluggish really and i think you'd better change your nasty ways...  I'm not saying I'm going to stop playing the game... I've already stopped supporting the same old shit with a different name... and two step along with dubplates are part of that rebellion.  If you didn't already see that coming.
> 
> on a brighter note... pascal and zinc's "director's cut" ep arrives today in the mail along with total science "street level"
> 
> hopefully that'll make me proud.
> 
> entro
> "its in my nature to piss you off, baby."
> 
> 
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do you know candice?

mk

At 08:24 PM 1/29/01 -0500, O0rainbowbritE1o@aol.com wrote:
>      while sitting in the back of my 3rd hour class 2day half asleep somehow
>the subject of parties and drugs came up...not too long after i heard my
>teacher bring up raves and how there's nothing but drugs there.......me being
>one to voice my opinion perked up and busted out the metaphors i told her
>that raves were more than drugs and thats not what they're all about
>(metaphor time) i told her to think like she was buying a car and if they
>offered a car with a cd player you would buy that one if you were into cd's
>and if you weren't buy one with a tape player...just like if your into drugs
>and your at a rave fine do em but if your not thats cool......by this time
>i'm almost yelling and have been told to sit down and shut up...me refusing
>to gets her pissed and i am suspended for 2 days!
>                freedom of.....what? speech? or did i sleep through that
>chapter too?
>
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no sorry babe i'm old enough to get into rated R movies

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Subject: Re: [mw] March 31st (among other things)

Alright, not to sound like a prick (but, since this IS e-mail, I might), is=
=20
there something happenning on March 31st or what? If so, where?
Marie

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 Lofiglam@aol.com wrote:

> In regards to March 31st (among other things) . . .=20
>=20
>=20
>     I would like to start by interjecting that I am deeply discouraged by=
=20
> some of the postings I=E2=80=99ve been reading on all of these bulletin b=
oards.  That=20
> is not to say I don=E2=80=99t believe that everyone is entitled to their =
own opinion,=20
> but . . . I think we should all back those opinions up with facts before =
we=20
> stand behind them with any confidence.  If you are willing to listen, the=
n I=20
> am willing to share with you some facts regarding March 31st and other gr=
oss=20
> misunderstandings you might have about Scarab Records.  I know that almos=
t=20
> all of you enjoy our events and support our efforts, but there are still =
some=20
> of you out there who =E2=80=9Clove to hate us,=E2=80=9D for reasons we ho=
nestly do not=20
> understand, so I guess this letter is mostly intended for you.
>     Jason and Jon and I have been throwing electronic music events as Sca=
rab=20
> Records for over 2 years now.  From the beginning, we have done nothing b=
ut=20
> positive things for this city, bringing first time talent of every calibe=
r,=20
> from superstar DJs to the kid next door.  We will always stand up for the=
=20
> music we write and promote, and we will make no excuses for our decisions=
=2E =20
> Since Jason and I are song writers and we perform our own music we have a=
=20
> deep understanding of how things work, but not only that, a deep love for=
=20
> music in general, including all genres, not just electronic.  So without=
=20
> saying, we do this for our love of music and not for the money, period.
>     It saddens me when I see a negative posting about our company, becaus=
e we=20
> work so damn hard at what we do.  We spend enormous amounts of time, ener=
gy=20
> and money trying to lift and build our community and our culture to the l=
evel=20
> of respect that it has long deserved.  As I have said before, sometimes w=
e=20
> make money and sometimes we don=E2=80=99t.  I don=E2=80=99t see anything =
wrong with making a=20
> little money when you are doing what you love.  I think all of us can agr=
ee=20
> with that.  First you have to love what you do, and when that happens the=
=20
> money will follow, money is just a nice bonus but definitely not a necess=
ity.=20
>  I=E2=80=99m sure a lot of you who attend our events are going to school =
to get a=20
> degree in order to make money at something you love.  Well, this is our j=
ob,=20
> entertaining you, and we all have to pay the bills, furthermore, if we di=
dn=E2=80=99t=20
> make any money we would not be able to continue throwing these events as=
=20
> often as we do.  If we didn=E2=80=99t love what we did we wouldn=E2=80=99=
t throw these=20
> events as often as we do anyway, trust me, it is not easy having an event=
=20
> every month.  We hold these events once a month to keep the scene alive a=
nd=20
> healthy and constantly growing.  I see it as a good thing, something this=
=20
> city desperately needs, some fucking culture other than sports.  This is =
also=20
> something I think we can all agree on.  We also use everything in our pow=
er=20
> to keep illegal substances out of our events, and we try to abide by all =
the=20
> laws necessary to keep these events safe and fun for everyone.  We are he=
re=20
> to entertain and provide an all ages show.  So for those of you who disli=
ke=20
> what we do, just remember, we do this for you and for the music.  You can=
=20
> disagree with us if you like, but after all, when you look at it in it=E2=
=80=99s=20
> simplest form, we are just a record company holding an all night show for=
 the=20
> purpose of entertainment.  I think we could all spend our energy hating=
=20
> something a little more worth while, I mean come on.
>     As far as those of you who support us, don=E2=80=99t be afraid to voi=
ce your=20
> opinions, nobody is going to think you are =E2=80=9Criding our jock,=E2=
=80=9D that is the=20
> most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.  When you enjoy what someone doe=
s or=20
> what they stand up for, be heard, don=E2=80=99t bury your head in the san=
d.  Just=20
> because our company throws big events and throws them all the time doesn=
=E2=80=99t=20
> mean they are of any less quality, in fact, we strive to make them more=
=20
> original and better every time.  Our goal is to create environments that =
are=20
> truly unique experiences, memorable and entertaining.  =E2=80=9CDon=E2=80=
=99t believe the=20
> hype,=E2=80=9D some say, I say =E2=80=9CDon=E2=80=99t believe the bullshi=
t,=E2=80=9D cause you=E2=80=99re gonna=20
> hear a lot of it.  If you want to know the truth don=E2=80=99t be afraid =
to write us=20
> and ask us what is going on, we=E2=80=99ll tell you the truth.  The truth=
 represents=20
> everything we stand for.
>     Now, I don=E2=80=99t like to dwell on negative subjects, but I feel t=
his needs to=20
> be said, especially in light of recent events.  Please read this carefull=
y=20
> and make up your own mind accordingly.  There are some production compani=
es=20
> out there who don=E2=80=99t want you to know the truth.  Why you ask?  Be=
cause it=20
> would destroy them.  Some of these events you are all going to are run by=
=20
> drug dealers, promoters with nothing but their own self interests in mind=
=2E =20
> Runners are bought and paid, and even some cops bought and paid.  This is=
=20
> something our scene and our culture must battle against!  Electronic musi=
c=20
> will never survive in this atmosphere.  We don=E2=80=99t need to hear the=
 rumors, we=20
> know the truth.  So without releasing any names, just be careful who you =
give=20
> your $20 to next time you want to go have some fun.  There is still a lot=
 of=20
> trash that needs to be cleaned up in this city before we can call what we=
 do=20
> =E2=80=9Cunity=E2=80=9D.  Respect is a two way street, and we at Scarab w=
ill only respect=20
> those who respect the music and our scene.  Our events are clean and alwa=
ys=20
> have been from day one.  None of us at Scarab use drugs or condone the us=
e of=20
> drugs.  We don=E2=80=99t even smoke ;-)  We get our high from the music, =
and shoot me=20
> if I=E2=80=99m wrong, but isn=E2=80=99t that why we are all in this toget=
her?  You will not=20
> find a stronger crew and one more willing to fight for our rights than us=
,=20
> trust me.
>=20
> Onto March 31st . . .=20
>=20
>     We are not throwing this event against anyone, this is not a competit=
ion,=20
> you should know us better than that by now.  We are very respectful of=20
> peoples dates and ALWAYS have been, just as other promoters have been=20
> respectful of ours.  I know the Double e crew declared March 31st about 5=
=20
> years ago (some sarcasm), as promoters we all declare a lot of dates.  BU=
T,=20
> we also move our dates around for each other quite a bit too, it=E2=80=99=
s very=20
> common practice and it happens all the time.  We know the Double e crew i=
s=20
> new and maybe they are not familiar with how we all try to work together,=
 but=20
> this kind of compromise has been going on since the beginning of our scen=
e. =20
> We ourselves moved three of our summer dates around so that they didn=E2=
=80=99t=20
> conflict with dates in Louisville, as too did the Louisville promoter mov=
e=20
> dates for us.  I am just using this as an example in order to let you kno=
w=20
> that we all move dates around and try to work together, even with=20
> out-of-state promoters.
>     Here is the dilemma:  We have been trying to book Aphrodite for 2 yea=
rs. =20
> Finally just three weeks ago we got the phone call we had been waiting fo=
r. =20
> We asked for March 17th, our original date, but the only date he was=20
> available was March 31st.  Immediately we knew we had to contact the Doub=
le e=20
> crew to try and flip-flop dates.  We offered them our original date and a=
ny=20
> assistance they would need in moving their date.  We know AK1200 has a pr=
etty=20
> open schedule, he plays the midwest all the time, so we knew it wouldn=E2=
=80=99t be a=20
> problem for them to juggle their schedule around a little bit (mind you, =
this=20
> was before they had booked Craze.)  We however had no choice other than t=
hat=20
> date.  And trust me when I say this, Aphrodite only comes to the US on to=
ur=20
> about twice a year and only for about 2 weeks at a time, so naturally he =
will=20
> normally play the larger markets, not Indiana.  This time we got lucky. =
=20
> However, the Double e crew did not see this offer in the same light, and=
=20
> basically, in so many words told us they were not willing to work around =
each=20
> others schedules.  Like I said before, we offered them our original date =
and=20
> really did try to find some way to make it work.
>     As we all know Aphrodite is considered by many to be an international=
=20
> superstar, so you can=E2=80=99t just book him whenever you like, you have=
 to take him=20
> when he is offered to you, and if you don=E2=80=99t, good luck getting hi=
m again,=20
> especially in this town.  Furthermore, he has never played here before. =
=20
> Also, when you get someone like Aphrodite you find out about 6-8 weeks in=
=20
> advance, you don=E2=80=99t book him 6 months in advance, that=E2=80=99s j=
ust not the way it=20
> works, and any good promoter can tell you that, so again, we didn=E2=80=
=99t have much=20
> choice.
>     We corresponded with both Double e and Evil Twin several times via e-=
mail=20
> and the phone, but to no avail.  Pride and ego and money have no place in=
=20
> this for us, they never have.  We know that in their eyes we are =E2=80=
=9CThe Evil=20
> Egyptian Empire,=E2=80=9D out to crush the scene, but as you all know, or=
 most of=20
> you, we are pretty laid back and that is not our intention at all, in fac=
t,=20
> that is the farthest thing from what we want for our scene.  We actually=
=20
> think it=E2=80=99s funny that they try to make us out as the =E2=80=9Cbig=
 bad promoters,=E2=80=9D=20
> because for anyone who really knows us, they know that we are a very posi=
tive=20
> influence on the scene and that we are all the most dedicated bunch of pa=
rty=20
> kids in this city.  I=E2=80=99m sure Double e and Evil Twin will continue=
 to play the=20
> hate card for quite some time and continue to ridicule us as well, so be =
it,=20
> we can take it, because we know who we are and what we stand for, we won=
=E2=80=99t=20
> play that game.  We are dedicated to bringing great talent and that=E2=80=
=99s all. =20
> We could have easily worked something out with them and could have both=
=20
> thrown 2 great events on 2 different nights, we could have both come out=
=20
> winners in this situation, it would have been very very easy and most=20
> importantly it would have been best for the scene.  Unfortunately, the=20
> e-mails we received in return were rude and uncompromising, full of vulga=
r=20
> language and insults.  So, we tried as best we could, what more can I say=
=2E
>     Let me make this very clear; we wish no ill will toward either Double=
 e=20
> or Evil Twin.  Although we may not agree with their ethics and past behav=
ior,=20
> we will not combat this situation with negative arguments, there is alway=
s=20
> room for a peaceful resolve.  We will leave this predicament alone, and=
=20
> hopefully, we can both hold two successful events on the same evening.
>=20
> Finally . . .=20
>=20
>     I know some of you will probably still find this letter unsatisfying,=
 and=20
> that=E2=80=99s unfortunate.  But I want you all to know, music is our lif=
e. =20
> Everything we do is for the music, and we strongly believe that when you =
love=20
> it as much as we do, all else will prevail.  What we represent is the lov=
e of=20
> music in it=E2=80=99s purest form.  I don=E2=80=99t need to sit here and =
tell you about how=20
> much we do for the scene, about our charity events or about our non-profi=
t=20
> organizations that we run, hopefully you see that already and understand =
why=20
> we do what we do.  The last thing I feel we need to do is defend ourselve=
s,=20
> especially when you consider how long we have been supporting and defendi=
ng=20
> the very scene we all enjoy participating in every weekend.  We are stron=
g a
> dvocates of electronic music and we do everything in our power to empower=
=20
> our culture, a culture we are not new to, a culture we have been supporti=
ng=20
> for a long long time.  This is a culture we consider our family.
>=20
>     In closing, I would like to thank everyone who has positively support=
ed=20
> us over the last four years as a record company and over the last 2 years=
 as=20
> a promotional company.  We are very encouraged by the progress electronic=
=20
> music has made locally, and we will continue to fight for the freedom of =
this=20
> form of music and the culture that supports it.
>=20
>=20
> Peace and love,
>=20
>=20
> Kevin M. Ahern
> Scarab Records
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Subject: Re: [mw] ohhh this is funny



sorry to break this brighteyes, but there is no freedom of speech in school.  
if they tell you to be quiet, and you yell louder, it doesnt push your point 
anywhere other than proving the other person right in their eyes, too.  
something to think about.  another tip:  2day=today, but out of curiosity, 
what did they suspend you for?  had to been more than that.  swear words?  
what?...aaron


>while sitting in the back of my 3rd hour class 2day half asleep somehow 
the subject of parties and drugs came up...not too long after i heard my 
teacher bring up raves and how there's nothing but drugs there.......me being 
one to voice my opinion perked up and busted out the metaphors i told her 
that raves were more than drugs and thats not what they're all about 
(metaphor time) i told her to think like she was buying a car and if they 
offered a car with a cd player you would buy that one if you were into cd's 
and if you weren't buy one with a tape player...just like if your into drugs 
and your at a rave fine do em but if your not thats cool......by this time 
i'm almost yelling and have been told to sit down and shut up...me refusing 
to gets her pissed and i am suspended for 2 days!   
               freedom of.....what? speech? or did i sleep through that 
chapter too?

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Hey, where can I hear a Scarab Records record?

Also, no offense, but Aphrodite really isn't that big a deal in my opinion. Is he not playing the
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[With Bill Clinton recently departed from the
White House, we thought you might enjoy reading an
article written just after Mr. Clinton entered the
White House. This was published in "Harry Browne's
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Mr. Clinton's Mantra

    by Harry Browne

July 26, 1993

Bill Clinton is without a doubt the most engaging,
persuasive president this country has had in my
lifetime -- which goes back to FDR. Neither Ronald
Reagan nor John F. Kennedy, each widely praised as
a presidential charmer, could hold a candle to
Mr. S. Willie.

In an interview, a news conference, or a prepared
speech, Mr. Clinton comes across as sincere,
down-to-earth, humble, extremely knowledgeable,
and passionate about his beliefs.

But it's also true that, in a profession in which
dishonesty is the first and foremost
qualification, Bill Clinton stands head and
shoulders above the pack when it comes to telling
whoppers. I have never in my life seen a man for
whom lies roll off the tongue with such ease.

And it's simply too much to believe that a man who
seems to have stored so many facts and figures in
his brain -- ready to be trotted out whenever the
appropriate question is asked -- doesn't realize
that what he's saying is completely opposite to
the truth of the matter at hand. Not only that,
too often what he says is completely opposite to
what he said just a few months or days earlier --
or even a few minutes ago.

    Prevarication in Motion

On July 20, I watched him in action on _The Larry
King Show_. In that wonderful, engaging style of
his, the fibs came pouring out one after another.

Of course, all his stock cliches were there --
this is the "first serious effort," "I've spelled
out specific cuts,", "had to make the tough
choices," "gays have served with distinction,"
"ask the rich to pay their fair share," and so on.
Not to mention his #1 cliche -- "the past 12
years" -- which pops up at least every five
minutes.

But beyond these vacuous phrases and the endless
slogans were the misstatements, inconsistencies,
twisted logic, invented facts, and -- to put it
mildly -- barefaced lies.

One minute he said that all the savings from his
economic program were going into a trust fund to
reduce the deficit -- and that was an absolute
promise on his part. The next minute he was saying
there was plenty of money available for the
Mississippi flood victims because, thanks to lower
interest rates, the current year's deficit was
lower than expected.

At five minutes past the hour he was saying we
must encourage American businessmen to create more
jobs. At quarter past, he was saying you don't
have to worry about the tax bill because the rich
(American businessmen, I presume) were going to
pay almost all of it. By the half hour, he was
railing as usual about the rich getting a free
ride for -- you guessed it -- "the last 12 years."
But by quarter of, he was back on their side
again -- saying that deficit reduction would lower
interest rates enough that even the rich would
come out ahead.

A particularly outrageous whopper was his
statement that, because of his courageous efforts
to finally "come to grips with the deficit," the
recent Tokyo summit was the first time in (let's
all say it together now) "12 years" that foreign
leaders had treated an American president with
respect. It seems they had been pleading for
(ready now, 1-2-3) "12 years" for American
presidents to do something to stop "sucking money
from all over the world to pay for our deficits."

I guess at those state dinners Ronald Reagan was
made to sit at the children's table.

Of course, Larry King's audience isn't likely to
be aware that those foreign leaders have budget
deficits of their own that are as bad as -- or
worse than -- ours. And if Larry King were aware
of that, he still wouldn't be likely to call
attention to it and bite the presidential hand
that's feeding him.

    Pushing Down Interest Rates Up

And, of course, Mr. Clinton bragged about having
brought interest rates down. To hear him tell the
story, you'd think that interest rates had been
rising steadily for the past -- well, 144
months -- until they suddenly started plunging
last November when the world realized that
"change" was in the air.

But the downward trend in long-term rates was in
motion long before last November -- and a 12-year
downward trend in short-term rates came to a halt
when it became apparent in October that Mr.
Clinton had the election sewn up.

With his patented abandon, a few minutes later Mr.
Clinton flip-flopped and took credit for the fact
that short-term rates _aren't_ falling. Thanks to
his "serious efforts" to do you-know-what after
you-know-how-long, short-term rates have stopped
falling -- allowing long-term rates to come down
to join them. Apparently, economic Nirvana means
having no gap between short and long rates.

    Figuring out your Tax Increase

And, lastly, in his latest installment in the
continuing evolution of "how little the tax
increase will cost you," he said that you'll pay
only $1 a week in higher gasoline taxes. The rest
will come from soaking the rich. The preceding
week on the same show, a Democratic flack had said
it was $25 a year. In his State of the Union
address, it had been $17 a month. Tomorrow's
figure is likely to be 38-1/2¢ a day.

The current campaign to sell the budget deal is
focused on the idea that those who oppose it have
the crazy idea that a tax increase will cost them
something. Administration spokesmen, starting with
Mr. Bill and supported by journalistic sycophants
like Larry King, run around asking people how much
they earn and then reassuring them that they won't
be touched by the tax increase.

After all, the deficit is going to be reduced
entirely through spending cuts that are guaranteed
to take effect the day after the Messiah returns,
and by taxing the filthy rich retroactively from
the time of the Messiah's first visit.

    Who Are the Rich?

In whatever Mr. Clinton says, the unspoken
assumption is that it's okay to soak the rich
because they don't do anything to deserve what
they have.

And this is perhaps the biggest lie of all.

There are some "idle rich" in this country. But
almost all of them earned the money they have. The
irony is that these "plutocrats" -- as well as the
inherited wealthy -- aren't the ones who will be
taxed to death.

The idle rich live mostly on their investment
income. And investment income is far, far easier
than employment income to shelter from taxes. For
example, you could draw a return from the
Permanent Portfolio Fund's Treasury Bill Portfolio
or the Versatile Bond Portfolio for years while
paying very little in taxes on the interest
earned. Those who are really rich will see
practically no change in their status from the tax
increase.

The people who will be hurt most by the new taxes
are those who are _trying_ to become rich -- those
who are working 12 hours a day providing products,
services, and employment for their fellow men in
the hope of earning a fortune. Current tax rates
already make fortune-building very, very
difficult. But the Clinton program will make it
virtually impossible.

In Bill Clinton's Brave New World, only someone
like Michael Jordan, Bill Gates, or Madonna will
earn so much money that he can still retain a
fortune after taxes. Of those who are working so
hard now, some will continue to do so -- hopeful
that they'll be among the chosen few to make so
much money that the awful tax rates will be
incidental. And some others will continue to work
hard because money isn't the motivation.

But a great many will throw in the towel because
the chance of success will become so remote. And
when they throw in the towel, they will throw out
their innovations, their services, the good jobs
they provide, and the inspiration they offer to
young people.

I figure that, in any society, roughly 10% will
work hard no matter how little they're rewarded,
and another 10% won't work no matter how much
they're offered. But the rest -- 80% or so of the
population -- are very sensitive to rewards. Hold
out enough carrots and you unleash their
creativity and energy. Take away monetary
incentives and they'll use their talents instead
to discover ways to avoid work.

When the Clinton program dampens the incentives of
the prime movers of the economy, the effect could
be devastating.

So is it true that the average person won't be
hurt by the new taxes? Hardly. We are all affected
by high taxes and regulations -- no matter whom
they're aimed at.

The beauty of government programs is that when
someone loses his job -- because his employer can
no longer support both him and his government --
the Clinton crowd can label the event a "failure
of the free market system."

And if the reduced economic activity causes tax
receipts to be much smaller than projected,
they'll be back again for another dip into our
pockets.

    Jekyll & Hyde, Together Again

Meanwhile, back in the present, Bill Clinton
continues to project his unique combination of
apparent dedication and total deceit. He will
speak about some cause as though he's been
fighting for it all his life -- even if it's
completely contrary to what he advocated
passionately two months ago.

But the deceit is catching up with him. To offer a
platitude myself, he who tries to be all things to
all people eventually has the gratitude of none.
He promised the homosexuals he would end the
military ban with "a stroke of the pen," while
assuring Congressional Democrats he wouldn't let
social issues get in the way of raising more money
for them to spend. He spoke as a "New Democrat"
against quotas, while promising Lady McClinton's
friends that Quota-Queen Lani Guinier would get an
important job in the Justice Department.

And on it goes -- whether the topic is tax breaks,
appointments, MIAs, Bosnia, anything. On one thing
after another, he's taken both sides. As the
current joke goes, "They're adding two new faces
to Mount Rushmore -- Bill Clinton's."

Such duplicity is considered essential in a
political campaign. But most politicians drop a
large part of it once they're elected. They may
not believe the stories they tell, but at least
they usually stick to one side of the story. Mr.
Clinton, however, still goes around telling all
people he's on their side. More and more, he has
backed himself into a corner.

    How Does He Do It?

By now he would have been laughed out of office if
it weren't for the press constantly reminding us
how much we need him.

What's that you say? "Everyone knows the press has
been highly critical of the president"?

Think about it. The journalists have criticized
his $200 haircut, his waffling, his poor
management, his foot-dragging on appointments, his
failure to sell his programs, and so forth. _But
the one area they don't criticize is his
policies._ They accept at face value -- and repeat
faithfully -- his every assumption about the
economy; about the free ride of the rich; about
interest rates falling because of his proposals;
about $4 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax
increase or $3 in spending cuts or $2 or $1 or
whatever the line is today; and about (ta-da!)
"the last 12 years."

The press has given legitimacy to the
inconsistencies, the lies, and the absurdities. If
the press truly were against him, if they
questioned even half his sloganeering assumptions,
his approval rating would be zero.

But the amazing thing is that, despite the support
of the press and despite the fact that Mr. Clinton
may be the most persuasive president ever, his
program has practically no public support. While
his arguments go virtually unchallenged by the
press, very few people are buying his ideas.

    The Opposition

Part of the reason may be that this time around
there is an army of people fighting hard against
the Clinton plan, which is good news. But the bad
news is that the army is the Republican Party.

It's nice to see such weak-kneed types as Robert
Dole, [Senator] John Chafee, and [House Minority
Leader] Robert Michel fighting against tax
increases for a change. But I can't help feeling
that a large part of this army is going to go on
furlough before the battle is over.

By the time you read this, the tax plan may have
passed both houses of Congress. But it also may be
delayed because the Democratic leaders weren't
sure they had the votes.

And, Doctor, I keep having this recurring
nightmare. In it, Mr. Clinton realizes he's going
to have to negotiate with the Republicans. The
leaders of both parties meet with the president
and hammer out a compromise -- raising the top
income tax rate to only, say, 36%, instead of
39.6% (from today's 31%), and adding another $100
billion in spending cuts (scheduled for 1997,
meaning they'll never occur). Nearly all the
Democrats and half the Republicans vote for the
bill, putting it over the top, the Republicans
take bows for having saved the country from that
awful "tax and spend" package, and America goes
down the tubes.

Tell me, Doctor, am I paranoid?

---

Harry Browne was the 2000 Libertarian presidential
candidate. More of his articles can be read at
http//www.HarryBrowne.org .


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please ignore unless you want to read this...I clicked the wrong address.

onelove.
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speaking of R rated movies...go see SNATCH now!!

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no sorry babe i'm old enough to get into rated R movies

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In a message dated 1/29/01 7:56:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
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<< "class disruption" >>

damn...school in tha sticks, huh...aaron.

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>no sorry babe i'm old enough to get into rated R movies

can you recognize the, um, metaphors, employed by the filmmakers, tho?  ;P

mk

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will you guys keep it down? i'm trying to rave!

-t

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>no sorry babe i'm old enough to get into rated R movies

can you recognize the, um, metaphors, employed by the filmmakers, tho?  ;P

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>Alright, not to sound like a prick (but, since this IS e-mail, I might), is
>there something happenning on March 31st or what? If so, where?

lousy smarch weather.

mk

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aphrodite's playing or something.

no clue...
noble


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>Alright, not to sound like a prick (but, since this IS e-mail, I might), is
>there something happenning on March 31st or what? If so, where?

lousy smarch weather.

mk

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From mw-raves-return-15911-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 02:23:21 2001
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>Hey, where can I hear a Scarab Records record?

go to any club in never-never land, their shit is getting CANED there.

mk

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you'd think after 2983742 posts on the subject, you'd have gotten the hint 
about posting the URL instead of the whole article.

also, nobody cares.

mk

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stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< "he didn't really
 pose a threat" and refused to unsub him, regardless of
 my own concerns for MY SAFETY. >>

this coming from a girl that just openly admitted to
being anally assaulted by lora/applesawz and has
a notoious reputation for being the queen bitch from 
hell on mw-raves?!

sorry, pixie the validity of your assinine accusations
of me posing a threat to you can only be percieved 
as another source of the deceptions and far from the
solution...

stevie wipes the blade of the slime from choppin
off another head of thee whore of babylon...

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From mw-raves-return-15914-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 02:26:30 2001
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Anyone going to this show? Yes, I know Outkast is pretty mainstream, but
they still the ATL funk....

ain't no thing, but a chicken wing...

onelove.
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From mw-raves-return-15915-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 02:32:38 2001
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fuck mainstream OutKast is the shit..

nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< Anyone going to this show? Yes, I know Outkast is pretty mainstream >>


Gabe
Synchronicity Jan 27th Dayton Ohio. AK1200,Hardware,Bam Bam 
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whendee,

  you are not alone. Everyday i live with the realization that things are
getting worse and when i try to express to other people, i just get flak.
sometimes, i feel it's not even worth it, but I know it really is. you are
exactly right on when you say "THEY" are trying to divide us .... political
parties, religion, race, etc.. are all ways to do this.. why do we get
caught up in all this bullshit. we want to feel as if we are part of
something, right?
   if people can't see (with the WTO riots, and drug check points, and
thumb-scanning for drivers licenses) that we are in a POLICE or perhaps
PLEASE (please can i do this, etc?) STATE, then you are kidding yourself.
Yes, politics is fukked. SO, what do we do? ignore it and hope it gets
better?
  remember, they is us. and they have been in control the whole time.

onelove.
Noble

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so i just went out to coffee with one of my oldest and most cynical friends 
who went to his first protest this summer in D.C. and we started talking
about 
this whole "conspicarcy " thing. It really isnt that far fetched...or hidden

though, look at WTO, NAFTA, and the rest of the global agencies that are 
supposed to be helping out the people...we all know they are not doing that 
they are just looking for more ways to make themselves more money and still 
keep the lower classes happy enough so they dont start an all out labor 
strike...but more and more people are noticing and starting to educate 
themselves about the atriocitys of globalization...see the thing stevie t 
doesnt get is that while it might seem that THEY(yes i am using that
wonderful 
anyomounous phrase, for simplicity) are just a bunch of racisit
fuckheads...it 
is just another way to separte people ,keep them from working together, it
is 
a class issue, its a people thang, sepaerate and divide the classes into
even 
smaller subsections that fight amongst themselves and they wont have the
time 
or energy to fight the system for the rights this country is supposed to
stand 
for...i dont know where i am going with this ramble really i am just pissed 
off at all the fuked up shit that is going on in this world and how much
time 
and energy is spent trying to deny that nothing is wrong or who is behind it

when it could be spent on trying to change it...working in your
nieghberhood, 
your local community, building something you can be proud of , something
that 
actually benifits yourself and your family and friends.

i dont know 
like i said i am scared shitless about all of it
i try to do my part...but it frustrating to see how many people(myself 
included in this sometimes) sit on there ass and bitch when there is stuff 
they can do to change it.

I miss being active aas i have taken a break on alot of shit this winter...i

guess it is time forme to get reinvolved,for all you in milwaukee.if you
have 
some time to volunteer..there is a great food coop that needs help in 
riverwest also a couple pirate radio stations that could use a new influx of

people and energy... so if any of this moved you to think about shit other 
then riding my ass for an idealist let me know and maybe we can do something

worthwhile
thats it

whendee

P.S. and if you will notice my bad grammer and spelling thats public schools

for you...man i cant wait till the whole country gets the voucher 
system...bush is such an idiot




P.S.



>>the government agenda now is
>>to keep you ignorant and too broke to leave your >house!!
>
>
>okay, can we quit with the stupid fucking conspiracy shit, over all??
okay?  
i mean jesus, we're all starting to sound as if to have done a lil (well,
WAY) 
too much acid in our day.  have you come up with a reason WHY the government

wants to get
>you, or make it so you cant have a good time?  have you ever thought to 
yourself "hey...even if there IS a huge government that sits and plots and 
watches me, they're doing a good fucking job cause a) i have noticed them 
peering through my window
>at night, and b)everything works out"  so who cares?!  jesus.  thinking the

government, or some "illuminati" like super power watches over everyone, all

the time, is in my opinion, no less absurd than the very principal of santa 
claus existing
>(sorry to crack the news.  but santa claus isnt real...i know for some of 
you, christmas just wont be the same now...).  okay, so thats my 2.5 cents, 
BITCH!!  im gonna go get stoopid fresh on a smoke before i bite someones
head 
off.  aaron.
>
>
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baronessk@hotmail.com writes:

<< anybody know anything going on in the indiana kentucky ohio area this 
coming 
 weekend ??? i need to fuckin vend so i can make some money...i checked the 
 calender and cant really find anything going on except that happycore/trance 
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 anybody ? anybody?  >>

hmm...do u do clubs?

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At 09:56 PM 1/29/01 -0500, Son316east@aol.com wrote:
>hmm...do u do clubs?

hahah we need a "club stevie" where you pay to get in and you get to club 
stevie.  ha.

mk



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hahah we need a "club stevie" where you pay to get in and you get to club 
stevie.  ha.

mk
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major inferiority complex!!

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Subject: [mw] an interview with two average ravers


http://www.openletters.net/000626/wagner000630.html

chris.


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Subject: Re: [mw] FW: Mr. Clinton's Mantra

nlong@Zethcon.com writes:

<< After all, the deficit is going to be reduced
 entirely through spending cuts that are guaranteed
 to take effect the day after the Messiah returns,
 and by taxing the filthy rich retroactively from
 the time of the Messiah's first visit. >>

i will say this...

i was one of thee creators

i was thee shepherd

i was thee lord of hosts

i was thee messenger

now i am more along the lines of witness (after all,
if you check Revelations, final judgement befalls the
seven churches of ASIA)...

and as to what i have witnessed...i must say, i am a
bit dissapointed...but it is nothing that can't be changed

there have been valiant efforts...

ted turner agreeing to help pay off the nation's debts and
contributing toward nuclear disarmalment

bill gates providing libraries w/ free pc's and contributing 
to AIDS research

clinton going the distance for world peace

bush working on tax cuts, education reform, and faith based
charities

however, what irks me is...

obvious polarization of the haves and have nots, with the 
thousands of lay offs not helping things

choosing to fund a superfolous missile defense system 
rather than helping the energy crisis in california

intentional takeover of the media to hide the facts on all
the pertinent issues specifically the injustices toward the
poor and working class

intentional oppression and defamation of character through
inane false accusations of those like myself who are voicing
these injustices

choosing to fund moles intentionally placed to destroy the
reputation of those seeking justice for the meek rather than
facing the problems 

the nation has not been decieved

everyone still knows the truth

because everyone lives the truth every day

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Subject: Re: [mw] an interview with two average ravers

chrise@pubnix.org writes:

<< http://www.openletters.net/000626/wagner000630.html >>

the interview specifically states...

<<Orleans. Sam and Zak (see photo, below) are members of 
Mysophilia, a death-metal band based in Florida.]>>

NOT RAVERS!!

this is the OBVIOUS intentional smeer campaign that i 
am speaking of!!

when i had already posted the TRUE SOURCE of drugs
as THE US ARMY CHEMICAL CENTER!!

again more deceptions!!

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> this is the OBVIOUS intentional smeer campaign that i 
> am speaking of!!

this is the OBVIOUS sense of humor of which you lack perception!

/commanderobvious

(word of the day kiddies: 
*perception*
now scream every time you hear it!!)






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Subject: [mw] more proof on what is really going on...

http://www.parascope.com/ds/mkultradocs.htm

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there have been valiant efforts...

ted turner agreeing to help pay off the nation's debts and
contributing toward nuclear disarmalment

thanks, mr. ted "army psyops" turner for paying off our debt to the UN. we
wouldn't want them to repossess our country would we? and thanks for talking
about nuclear disarmament, we haven't seen anything yet, but thanks for
caring.

bill gates providing libraries w/ free pc's and contributing 
to AIDS research

Mr. Gates, thanks for giving back a small share (for tax reasons I'm sure)
of your income to help make everyone a windows user and so that we can find
a cure (oh wait, how come no one talks about a cure anymore?) i mean
treatment so that those with the disease can live in relative discomfort
while forking their paychecks over to phizer until their funeral.

clinton going the distance for world peace

and Bill, thanks so much, you talked about it a lot and even bombed a bunch
of innocent people in Bosnia and Africa, maybe that's what you meant by
world peace - "if you don't be peaceful over there, we are going to bomb the
fuck out of you..."

bush working on tax cuts, education reform, and faith based
charities

yes, Mr. Bush thanks for promising to give a little bit of the 43% of our
income we pay, back to us. HOW GENEROUS!! and education reform (don't forget
the children) ... we need policemen in all the classrooms so we don't have
any shenanigans. faith based charities ... WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO
DO WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

however, what irks me is...

obvious polarization of the haves and have nots, with the 
thousands of lay offs not helping things

yes, i agree...see above for examples of the haves

choosing to fund a superfolous missile defense system 
rather than helping the energy crisis in california

ever think that the same people are responsible for both??

intentional takeover of the media to hide the facts on all
the pertinent issues specifically the injustices toward the
poor and working class

see Ted Turner (and his Hollywood Minute) above

intentional oppression and defamation of character through
inane false accusations of those like myself who are voicing
these injustices

nobody likes those who point at reality and say "Hey, were all fucked!!"

choosing to fund moles intentionally placed to destroy the
reputation of those seeking justice for the meek rather than
facing the problems

and to add to this, allowing minor scandals to leak out therefore covering
the major scandals up

the nation has not been decieved

America..the nation of deception

everyone still knows the truth

they just don't know it...

because everyone lives the truth every day

nature cannot lie and therefore mankind being part of nature cannot lie....

you're close Stevie, but you might try to get some perspective other than
CNN

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Check out  http://www.superstarsoflove.com

There is some cool info about Lovetronic artists up
there right now on our home page.

We have some real player videos of the Detriot Grand
Pu Bahs and dj Assault playing live at the Detroit
Electronic Music Festival.
And some music videos by Ming & FS and The Grand Pu
Bahs.
Just Click on the Lovetronic letters to discover it.


Superstars of Love's 7 year Valentine Anniversary

LOVETRONIC  
02.10.01  St. Louis
featuring:

Detroit Grand Pu Bahs - Jive Electro Detroit

Ming & FS on four turntables - New York City

DJ Assault - Mo' Wax - Detroit's Ghettotech Master

Tomamerica AKA Tommie Sunshine - Chicago's Bad Boy

All Time High Experience - Live from Uranus

Hypo Vs Astrix - Live Techno PA
Bodaleg - Boogie Knights Bitch
Justin Foster - this kid rocks
Pepe - weird stuff

Lovetronic is all about our love and dedication to
electronic dance music culture over the past 7 years.
As with all of our events, expect an unparalled
production with multiple full colored real Lasers,
expertly programmed intelligent lighting, heart
thumping sound system, inspiring visuals & decoration.

Star-crossed lovers slow dance all night long in the
Unearthly ambient lounge hosted by Cupid played by
performance artist TJ Richter the human comic book.

Come fall in love-  this party will get you laid!
call # 314-994-1114 for FREE PHONE SEX

This event is recommended for mature audiences only
No one under 17 admitted without parents!

When was the last time you had a really good time at a
party and were glad to be there for all 4, 5, 6 or
more hours without getting bored?  If you go to one
party at all in the next few weeks then make it to
this one in St. Louis cause you will be glad you did.
Come get some...




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    Agreed, EXCELLENT flick. Like "lock, stock, and two smoking barrels",
but not.

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> speaking of R rated movies...go see SNATCH now!!



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hey matt murphy.  i need to get ahold of you to plan our house party which 
will have a title.  im using public forums to do so.  man.  i am so godamm 
RAVE, i LOVE IT!!  aaron.

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    Alright, well gimme a call at work, ok? I'll be sure to get you tha
stuff and we'll chat. Is DJ Namedrop whose real name is bob cuz I know him
so well and all gonna be there? Are you gonna suck my dick on stage (the
living room) or after the party? cuz I really want my dick sucked on stage
where everybody can see it. k? ~*~huggles~*~

Matt "live the rave" Murphy

> hey matt murphy.  i need to get ahold of you to plan our house party which
> will have a title.  im using public forums to do so.  man.  i am so godamm
> RAVE, i LOVE IT!!  aaron.



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Subject: Re: [mw] I Have Pressing Needs


I Dropper

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> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 04:54:42PM -0600, I Dropper wrote:
> > What's the cheapest and/or coolest place to get mastering from CD to
vinyl
> > and runs of vinyl? I'm looking for places that already work with the
> > underground dance labels and artists and do small runs for not too much.
I
> > already have the typical ones you get on search engines, so anyone know
any
> > I might not have already in my faveorites folder?
>
> How big is a small run?



I'd consider 50 to 200 records small...

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Subject: Re: [mw] turntable questions

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:10:55 -0500, DJ ORACLE [DANIEL J. BRITT] wrote:

>ive heard rumours that the pitch control itself is a digital unit as opposed
>to the analog mk2...im not talking about a digital readout, just the circuitry...
>this hasnt been verified 

This is false, because the pitch slider in the MK3 is compatible
with the MK2.  If you already have MK2s, and you'd like to
upgrade to MK3s, don't waste your money - order the MK3
pitch slider replacement part and swap them yourself.  It's
only a $30 part.  The "dead zone" free pitch in the MK3
is the only new feature that really makes it worthwhile.

	- Joe





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Subject: Re: [mw] ohhh this is funny

what the hell matt.  i just want everyone to know, that because of matt there 
is no party.  that is correct.  the reason:  he bought a bag of cheetos, at 
which point gave one to my ex-girlfriend.  how could you give a cheeto to my 
ex-girlfriend matt, how could you!?  you've crossed the line.  im posting on 
public forums once more.  nothing better than settling personal issues in 
public threads.  having that been said, remember raves of our lives?  DJ EFX 
vs. DAN EFEX??  what if there were a .com vs dot.com...oh ho 
hoooooo...ripping on myself again, i guess the shrinks not doing what im 
paying her to do...astro kitty 2k1 for ev-   aaron.



<<   Alright, well gimme a call at work, ok? I'll be sure to get you tha
 stuff and we'll chat. Is DJ Namedrop whose real name is bob cuz I know him
 so well and all gonna be there? Are you gonna suck my dick on stage (the
 living room) or after the party? cuz I really want my dick sucked on stage
 where everybody can see it. k? ~*~huggles~*~
 
 Matt "live the rave" Murphy
 
 > hey matt murphy.  i need to get ahold of you to plan our house party which
 > will have a title.  im using public forums to do so.  man.  i am so godamm
 > RAVE, i LOVE IT!!  aaron.
  >>

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Subject: [mw] dance crew?!...

ohhhhhhhh, you mean this dance cru?!...

http://www.bboyspastic.freeservers.com/photo.html

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Subject: [mw] as you were, i guess.


my recent rants stemmed from an inflammatory message that represented
one person's view of how i've been handling my admin duties.  now that
i've read what you've had to say and thought about it quite a bit more,
the list is as fine as it can be right now, and it was the fact that i
felt put on the defensive that caused me to go off the way i did and say
quite a few things i either didn't mean, or were unclear. 

i'll be happy to send people more of my thoughts and spend more time to
get whatever problems you may have resolved, but on a one to one
basis...privately, unless it warrants public discussion. 

i'll be happy to consider any real suggestions/ courses of action that
people may feel are necessary... but simply telling me to "do something"
without any real input as to what it is you want done is not enough and
those kinds of messages will promptly be ignored.

other than that, thanks for all your thoughts and patience on the mw-raves
jive... if anything happens, i trust it will be for the best.

chad
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Subject: [mw] the lord, mary magdalene, the dance, the true debtor, and power...

from http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~lcrew/joy70.html...

We hear the music of the choir and we join in the singing.  Maybe we dance... 
 Heady stuff, with its element of sexuality, -- all of it good -- if we are 
able to receive it. 
         It is both a pleasure and difficult work for us in the church to 
reach an awareness of the value of sexuality.  For instance, dancing, for me, 
is both sensual and a way of meeting God.  But dancing is alternately 
embraced and rejected by our Church.  In the 1980's some liturgical dancers 
came to Grace Cathedral.  A woman in the congregation had a nervous breakdown 
and began to disrobe at the time of the dance.  The institutional powers that 
be took her away -- and the dancers too, until last year when they started  
bringing dance back to our cathedral...   I thank God that dance in worship 
is now growing in popularity.  I believe that this is a sign that we are 
beginning to value more our sensuality, our sexuality and ourselves. 
         
from http://mcdonald.southern.edu/sermons/98/0207.htm...

 Simon thought, "If this man were a prophet, He would know who and what sort 
of person this woman is who is touching Him, that she is a sinner" Luke 7. 
Jesus read his thoughts and gave him a message tucked away in a parable. It 
was a story of two debtors one who owed ten times as much as the other. By 
the end of the parable, Simon knew that he was the greater debtor, and Mary 
the lesser. Jesus spoke in this parable to every man of power who uses that 
power to cater to his own desire. He speaks to every abuser. He says, your 
victim may go on to become a great sinner,  but you will be ten times as 
guilty because you got them started. Mary was known outwardly as a great 
sinner, but Simon was the more accountable.  

 We can see in the scandal that has made America the laughingstock of the 
world that it is very difficult for men of power not to use that power for 
their own perverted purposes  They abuse their power and rob vulnerable 
people of power in the process. I am so glad to know that the man Christ 
Jesus, who was a Man of power if there ever was One, never misused His power, 
but gave His power away so that we could have power. In Philippians we are 
told that "He emptied Himself" Jesus emptied Himself of power 

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Subject: [mw] Fw: [madfam] more bad news...


forwarding this over from madfam cause i'm not sure who has heard
about it. some fucked up shit going down in the great white
north...


----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Matt Haze
To: madfam@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: [madfam] more bad news...


It seems as though the Minneapolis scene is experiencing some
serious troubles...last Friday, Liquid, a new weekly in its
second installment, was busted in a planned raid by the city's
Police Department...partygoers were harassed and abused, as per
the pigs' norm, and the future of parties in Minneapolis is
sketchy at best...what follows is a message, posted on
mnvibe.com, from Jack Trash regarding the events of this past
friday:

Posted on 01.27.2001 @ 14:37 by Brian: Message from Jack Trash
regarding Liquid last night:

Sound in Motion - I do not even know where to start... The police
were obviously looking for someone to use as a lesson, and it
just happened to be our party at the Liquid venue. I personally
feel horrible about what happened. Everyone from the sound person
to all of you who attended to myself were treated extremely
poorly at times. The police had no real reason for doing what
they did, as evidenced by their lack of arrests. It is too bad
that they chose to attack a group of people more interested in
getting together to dance and be with friends than anything else.
Props out to all of you who remained patient through the mess.
Things could have gotten ugly, but you all helped ensure that the
positive reputation music-lovers have in the underground dance
music community will not be undermined. I would advise everyone
to be careful about what parties they attend in the City of
Minneapolis. The police made it very clear to some of us that
next time things would be different. Similarly, I would advise
anyone interested in throwing a party in the City of Minneapolis
to be pessimistic. There are plenty of suburbs and surrounding
communities to potentially throw parties. Support the promoters
who are throwing good parties, even if it means you have to drive
to get to it. There are many of us in the scene that are into
this scene for one main reason... the love of the music. I am
bummed that I did not get to throw down last night. I had 3
tables, my 909, a sampler, and synth to get into some super
sloppy chaos. I am mostly bummed for all of you who expected to
party until 5 AM. I apologize. I will be giving out free copies
of several mixtapes I made over the past year. Just stop down to
the dance room at Let it Be and talk to me. I want to hear
stories about last night. If anyone was treated in a manner that
they felt was out-of-line, please get in touch with me at Let it
Be or tasc0002@tc.umn.edu. I know there were instances Friday
Night of mistreatment by the police. Friday Night was an
unfortunate occurrence by all standards. Stick together and stay
true to the music, for it will always get us by.
Jack Trash



----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Matt Haze
To: madfam@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:36 PM
Subject: [madfam] A forwarded post regarding police brutality...


at the Liquid event in Minneapolis, which i discussed in my last
message...this is way too fucked up to even make comment on...

from MNVIBE.com General Bulletin Boards:

The following are details describing the beating of a friend
which I had witnessed take place during the shutdown of Liquid on
Friday. There were several people lined up in the hallway at that
time that had also seen the incident. There are already three
witnesses that we are in touch with but any other witnesses
willing to testify would help to make this case just that much
stronger when it goes to court. I specifically am referring to a
group of girls that I had let use my phone who had also seen the
beating. If you were also a witness to the following incident
please contact myself or Sean: dj-twist@mn.rr.com.

My name is Amir Elmasry. I am part of a group of DJ's and
musicians that rent a rehearsal studio in the Taylor Sound
building on 2921 2nd Ave. NE. I'm writing in regards to an
incident of police brutality that took place there on the night
of Friday, 1/26/01. I must warn you of profanity used in the
following where I have qouted some comments by police officers.
On Friday night, myself, two of my roomates, and two friends were
in our private studio space practicing. In this same building
there is a wharehouse space that is rented out to a dance music
venue know as Liquid, which we were not in attendance of nor had
anything to do with. At approximately 11:30pm., I walked out of
our studio to use the restroom facilities. To my surprise there
were several of the attendents of the Liquid event lined along
the hallways sitting on the ground. Two police officers then
aproached me and ordered me to sit down. I then sqautted down,
trying not to dirty my new pants. I asked them what was going on
and tried explaining that we were not affilated with this event
and were simply practicing our private studio. They responded to
me only with profanity, telling me to "shut the fuck up and sit
down!". To which I resonded "I am sitting?", which was answered
with "no, on your fucking ass!". About 30 seconds later my friend
that I share the studio with opened the door to see what was
happening. He had a beer in his hand which should not have been
an issue if they took 2 seconds to listen to him, as we are all
of age (23-24) and we were in our own private studio. My friend
did not even step outside of our room, but for some reason two
officers decided to pull him out of our studio and grab his beer
as if to hold it for evidence. As they pulled him out he tripped
over one of the Liquid attendants that was lined up along the
hallway, blocking the doorway. For this they accused him of
resisting arrest (although they never stated to him that he was
under arrest). They then proceeded to punch him in the face and
chest, pinn him down on the cement ground, and tied his hands
behind his back. They continued hitting him while he was pinned
down and a third officer joined in and proceeded to kicked him
several times in the ribs. During this entire time my friend had
said nothing more to them than "why are you doing this", and
"stop hitting me". I also tried explaining to the officers "what
are you doing? This is our private studio and he is a tenant
here". The officers responded by threatening me that "if you
don't shut the fuck up or we're going kick your fucking ass
next!". I remained seated and watched the three officers continue
to kick and punch my friend and then bring him to another area of
the building. A few minutes later a female officer allowed myself
and another friend that also had attempted to use the restroom to
return to our studio and said just sit and wait about 10-15
minutes until they have the building cleared out. They had two
buses sitting outside waiting outside to haul away all of the
underage attendees, which I find curious since the time of the
bust occured at approxametely 11:30pm. As we waited we continued
to hear the the officers in the hall screaming out profanities
and threatening violence to the attendents of the party. We
allowed about five party attendants that we didn't know into our
studio in an attempt to try to provide some sort of sanctuary
from the type of violence and verbal abuse that we had witnessed
a few minutes earlier. We sat in there approximately 30 minutes
until we heard things quite down and after waiting longer than
the time requested, I assumed it would be alright to make my now
long awaited trip to the restroom. I made it successfully and
upon returning gave my key to two friends who had also been
waiting to use the restroom. Only, they returned escorted by two
of the most rude and arrogant female officers, who entered our
space without warrents and forced everyone to leave, a few
moments later two very badly dressed women entered the other door
to our space that was still locked. They were wearing ripped up
dirty clothes (as if that's how they think raver kids dress). It
was almost too obvious that they were undercover officers. Me and
my roomate told them to get out. They then flashed badges as if
to assume that we were so stupid to think a badge alone provided
justification for their unlawful entry. I asked them to show me a
warrent to which one of them gave yet another completely
unprofessional response "I'm just one of the 50 million other
cops here, I don't know who has the fucking warrent". They
remained in our space and proceeded to search it without ever
showing us the search warrent that we had requested to see. We
were then forced to sit in the hallway ("on your fucking ass!")
once more. I was even threatened for apparrently making a face at
the female officer who was making copies of the party attendents
identification - "you make another face like that and I'll send
your fucking ass to jail". I just shook my head and sat there
listening in disbelief as she continued to scream out more
profanity and threats, almost uncontrollably, at several other
people who approached her with nothing more than fearful looks
and their ID's. A few minutes later they ordered us to leave as
they continued to illegally search through our studio which
contained nothing more than a few beers (remember, we are of age)
and our highly expensive musical equipment and records. About an
hour later my friend was released and given a citation for
something along the lines of disorderly conduct. The police
officers actually had the nerve to say afterwards that he swung
the beer bottle at them when in fact myself and several others
who witnessed the entire ordeal (and plan to testify) saw them
remove the beer from his hand without spilling a single drop and
carry it away for evidence, probably with the hope of fining us
with minor consumption or at least using that as a scare tactic
to keep us from reporting their completely innapropriate and
unprofessional actions and the illegal searching of our room.
Unfortuately, there are no pictures or video taken of the actual
beating we had witnessed but there are pictures of the injuries
which include a busted lip, various bruises, cuts, and three
fractured ribs.

I've heard various other reports of similar incidents of
unneccessary violence and peoples rights being violated that
night but the preceeding contained only the exact description of
the incidents which I had personally witnessed.

Me and my friends were not in attendance of this event but I have
been going to events of this type (raves) for about 7-8 years
now. I've in fact been to several events that have been shut down
but have never seen anything handled this disgustingly
inapropriate, using violence and such. I personally believe the
police screwed up in their timing of the shutdown. They had two
buses to bring in all of the under age individuals for cufiew
violations but then had to keep everyone there for another half
an hour or so since it was only around 11:30pm when they arrived.
I've heard that the reason for shutting down the party was
because of fire code violations and lack of permits by the
promoters who were throwing it. I also read something last week
about two rave promoters sentenced very heavy sentences for
throwing "raves" and using the "anti crack house" law to
succsesfully prosecute them. This article expressed great scare
and concern that this ruling would give justification across the
country for shutting down rave type of events. This seemed so
incredibly ridiculous to me to think that a venue could be shut
down and equated to a "crack-house" based soley upon the genre of
music that was being performed. Now I'm hearing that this
apparently is also a reason behind the shut down of Liquid on
Friday. Wow, I just can't believe how far that law enforcement is
being allowed to go with this. The same people, which I first
handedly witnessed use violence and vulgarity against a gathering
of non-violent youths, are now being given yet even more power in
an area where it isn't needed. If the situation on Friday night
had been handled in the standard way of just telling everyone
that the party is shut down and to leave immediately, the place
would have been cleared out in less than five minutes and
everyone would be fine. They then could have dealt with the event
promoters and other individuals involved regarding their
violations afterwards. Instead they created a chaotic situation
by forcing everyone to stay, all the while using profanity and
violence towards young and non-violent crowd. Now, because of
their dangerous combination of stupidity and arrogance, people,
who would have otherwise been fine, are now left with physical
injuries, bad memories, and a fear to attend events which contain
a performances of a certain type of music that they listen to and
appreciate.

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(ridiculously large number of CCs mercifully deleted)

no, i believe whoever you're talking to  was referring to THIS dance crew:

www.hamsterdance2.com


On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 Son316east@aol.com wrote:

> ohhhhhhhh, you mean this dance cru?!...
> 
> http://www.bboyspastic.freeservers.com/photo.html
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    Dude, seriously, why do you gotta bring that up in front of everybody,
just totally distorting the truth! I mean, she totally stole that cheeto
from me, I wouldn't give that girl the clap! Besides, the shit you pulled in
the lunchroom today was sooooooooooooooo much better, cooking up in the
lunchroom? I mean come on, that's so 9th grade of you. Did you hear about
johnny plurbunny? They found like a pound of coke in his locker, he's
gettin' suspended, I'm so pissed, that shit was for me!

> astro kitty 2k1 for ev-   aaron.

    Yo dude, you don't even know where it's at, it's all about love2k1, dat
shit gonna be phat, yo!

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On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:44:02PM -0600, I Dropper wrote:
> I'd consider 50 to 200 records small...

United Record Pressing is doing a special where you can press 80 records
for fairly cheap including mastering and everything- that might be a
good deal for you (www.urpressing.com).  Outside of that, you'd probably
have to master it for about $300 and press them for around a dollar
a piece, which wouldn't be that cost effective.

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On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:02PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
> Anyone going to this show? Yes, I know Outkast is pretty mainstream, but
> they still the ATL funk....

I'll most likely be there.  Ludicrous is opening, too, which should be
hilarious (they're the ones that do "I wanna lick lick lick you from
your head to your toes.")

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On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 08:12:06AM -0600, jsn111 wrote:
> forwarding this over from madfam cause i'm not sure who has heard
> about it. some fucked up shit going down in the great white
> north...

Yea...  I read a few of the posts on mnvibe about that the other day,
that's insane.  The attached letter was by far the worst of them,
though.

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Subject: [mw] NRR: FW: ****The Vaccine Challenge*****

Any M.D.'s or pharmaceutical company CEO's, on the list want to play guinea
pig for $20,000?

They want to put it in our kids, but I guarantee you no one will volunteer
for this.

Noble

you can't take your vaccine and stick it....



-----Original Message-----
From: spiker [mailto:spiker@ev1.net]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:09 PM
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Subject: ***PRESS RELEASE***


THE FOLLOWING OFFER is made to U.S.-licensed medical doctors who
routinely
administer childhood vaccinations and to pharmaceutical company CEOs
worldwide.

Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc.
http://www.gentlebirth.org/nwnm.org/

Jock Doubleday, president of the California nonprofit corporation
Natural
Woman, Natural Man, Inc., hereby offers $20,000.00 (U.S.) to the first
medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a
mixture
of standard vaccine additive ingredients in the same amount as a
six-year-old child is recommended to receive under the year-2000
guidelines
of the U.S.  Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The mixture will not contain viruses or bacteria dead or alive, but will
contain standard vaccine additive ingredients in their usual forms and
proportions.
The mixture will include, but will not be limited to: thimerosal (a
mercury
derivative), ethylene glycol (antifreeze), phenol (a disinfectant dye),
benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant), formaldehyde (a preservative and
disinfectant), and aluminum.

The mixture will be prepared by Jock Doubleday, three medical
professionals
that he names, and three medical professionals that the participant
names.
The mixture will be body weight calibrated.

The participant agrees, and any and all agents and associates of the
participant agree, to indemnify and hold harmless in perpetuity any and
all
persons, organizations, or entities associated with the event for any
harm
caused, or alleged to be caused, directly or indirectly, to the
participant
or indirectly to the participant's heirs, relations, employers,
employees,
colleagues, associates, or other persons, organizations, or entities
claiming association with, or representation of, the participant, by the
participant's participation in the event.

Because the participant is either a professional caregiver who routinely
administers childhood vaccinations, or a pharmaceutical company CEO
whose
business is, in part, the sale of childhood vaccines, it is understood
by
all parties that the participant considers all vaccine additive
ingredients
to be safe and that the participant considers any mixture containing
these
ingredients to be safe.

The event will be held within six months of the participant's written
agreement to the above and further elaborated terms.  This offer, dated
January 29, 2001, has no expiration date unless superceded by a similar
offer of higher remuneration.

Contact Jock Doubleday at:  Jockdoubleday@aol.com



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> sorry to break this brighteyes, but there is no
> freedom of speech in school.  

someone else would have to get deeper into this,
unless i have time to research it before someone else
does...but i remember being told in high school that
anyone under 18 does not have the same rights as
adults under the constitution. something about being
the property of your parents/legal guardian. please if
anyone knows anything deeper about this, correct me or
elaborate...my brain hurts from work today.

yeah, it sounds full of shit to me too, but i *do*
know that i was told that, misinformation or not.
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> this coming from a girl that just openly admitted to
> being anally assaulted by lora/applesawz and has
> a notoious reputation for being the queen bitch from
> 
> hell on mw-raves?!

is that what you told the qwest ethics department?

oh DAMN! i forgot...you lost your job there because
you were being opressed by the man, not for writing
vulgar and threatening e-mails from your work account.

my bad.
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noble, how many times do people have to ask you to post a URL and not the
whole article for the sake of people on the digest?

will you pay attention if our admin asks you to? does no one else's input
or frustration matter to you?

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> Any M.D.'s or pharmaceutical company CEO's, on the list want to play guinea
> pig for $20,000?
> 
> They want to put it in our kids, but I guarantee you no one will volunteer
> for this.
> 
> Noble
> 
> you can't take your vaccine and stick it....


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don't know about the extent of free speech, but minors do have the right to
an abortion. Good thing if you ask me.

onelove.
Noble

PLUR 'em all and let god sort 'em out!!



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> sorry to break this brighteyes, but there is no
> freedom of speech in school.  

someone else would have to get deeper into this,
unless i have time to research it before someone else
does...but i remember being told in high school that
anyone under 18 does not have the same rights as
adults under the constitution. something about being
the property of your parents/legal guardian. please if
anyone knows anything deeper about this, correct me or
elaborate...my brain hurts from work today.

yeah, it sounds full of shit to me too, but i *do*
know that i was told that, misinformation or not.
pixie




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From mw-raves-return-15947-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 17:19:24 2001
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>I'd consider 50 to 200 records small...

i don't know anyone that's done a run smaller than 300.  i imagine you 
could do any size, but of course it's gonna cost you more per-record.

mk
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From mw-raves-return-15948-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 18:02:30 2001
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chrise@pubnix.org writes:

<< no, i believe whoever you're talking to  was referring to THIS dance crew: 
>>

lol, have you ever considered changing your domain
name to chrise@pubes.org?!

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From mw-raves-return-15949-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 18:06:34 2001
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Subject: [mw] Mazi Chart Return Jan.28th 2001

Mazi (aka Audio Soul Project/Studio Nova/MFO)
Chart Return: January 28th 2001
Telephone: 001-773-539-2285
Fax: 001-773-539-3120
Venue: Mad Bar Chicago (Thursdays), Various across North America
Music: All things house

1.  Marshall Jefferson =E2=80=9CMushrooms=E2=80=9D (Audio Soul Project Remix=
) /Airtight
2.  Fish Go Deep =E2=80=9CHalf Step EP=E2=80=9D /Brique Rouge
3.  Audio Soul Project =E2=80=9CFree Falling=E2=80=9D /Gourmet
4.  Soulfranciscins =E2=80=9CGive It Up=E2=80=9D (Souljazz Excursion) /Chez
5.  Unknown?? =E2=80=9CJest For Me=E2=80=9D /White Label
6.  Natural Rhythm =E2=80=9CPulse Nine=E2=80=9D (Original Dub) /Serious Soun=
ds
7.  Alexander East =E2=80=9CLove Letters=E2=80=9D /Simple Soul
8.  Mazi feat. Donna Blakely =E2=80=9CCould It Be You?=E2=80=9D /Afterhours
9.  Soul Vision =E2=80=9CYou=E2=80=99ve Been On My Mind=E2=80=9D (Audio Soul=
 Revamp) /Fluential
10. Undercover Agency =E2=80=9CFire The Flame=E2=80=9D /Viva
11. Mazi & Chris Udoh =E2=80=9CThis Planet=E2=80=9D /Siesta
12. Dan Curtin =E2=80=9CCalling You=E2=80=9D /Metamorphic
13. RC Connection =E2=80=9CWait=E2=80=9D (Audio Soul Revamp) /Dialogue
14. Chris Lum & Jay J =E2=80=9CSmells Like Moulton Street=E2=80=9D /Afterhou=
rs
15. Jordan Fields =E2=80=9CDance With Me=E2=80=9D /Doubledown
16. Paul Johnson =E2=80=9CGet On My Camel=E2=80=9D (Mazi=E2=80=99s Audio Sou=
l Dub) /Essence
17. Pure Science =E2=80=9CTaste My Vibe=E2=80=9D /B Positive
18. BRS =E2=80=9CIcey=E2=80=9D /Cyclo
19. Willie Digs =E2=80=9C?? TR-003=E2=80=9D /Tonic Recordings
20. David Duriez pres. Circle Theory =E2=80=9CMy Funk EP=E2=80=9D /Ryzms

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Jet Set Artist Agency
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Chicago IL 60647
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From mw-raves-return-15950-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 18:10:42 2001
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> lol, have you ever considered changing your domain
> name to chrise@pubes.org?!

have you considered that not everything is about sex?
that maybe pubnix stands for PUBlic uNIX?

/j









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At 01:01 PM 1/30/2001 -0500, Son316east@aol.com wrote:
>lol, have you ever considered changing your domain
>name to chrise@pubes.org?!

lol, have you ever considered self-immolation?

mk
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Subject: [mw] Re: pixie involvement with thee presidential scandal!

stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< is that what you told the qwest ethics department?
 
 oh DAMN! i forgot...you lost your job there because
 you were being opressed by the man, not for writing
 vulgar and threatening e-mails from your work account. >>

it was you who called my work with the inane false
accusations?!...you evil bitch from hell!!..

i'm putting you on the Bill Clinton hit list (he owes me one,
because it was i who saved him from the assasination
attempt upon him that was to take place on day one of the G8
Meeting in Tokyo)!!...you god damned, whore of babylon!!
...everybody knows you were a part of the monica lewinsky/
linda tripp EVIL feminine plot connection!!...our sources indicate 
that you were the one that originally tipped linda tripp off to 
record the conversations!!...why can't you die already?!...each 
time a head is chopped of...another medussa mug grows in its 
place!!...and don't you dare try bribing Laura Bush or her daughter
with any of your other sinister plots for world domination!!...extra 
MIB's are protecting her from your filthy tentacles!!

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From mw-raves-return-15953-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Jan 30 18:37:38 2001
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pixie has to be making that up.  there's no way stevie had a job!

mk@oh.welfare.gov
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Subject: [mw] mk...true ghetto props!...

michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< mk@oh.welfare.gov >>

Yes, Michael is one of the more successful welfare 
recipients by participating in the CIA/Crack Program, 
he was able to lift himself out of the ghettos and
acquire quite a record collection and has made
quite a name for himself as one of the less flaming
homosexual happy hardcore dj's!!

Unfortunately, on each attempt at party production,
he was unable to suppress his bitterness toward
the world...with his first party failing miserably due to
the vengence of minorities who took offense to all
his biting racial remarks on mw-raves...and his second
party equally as unsucessful due to his own kind 
hating him and throwing a less expensive party on
the same night...of course, the snow storm that hit the
night of his party by opposing the "mw-raves messiah" 
did not help also...

However, by losing in all aspects of life, Michael is the
first caucasian to have earned "true ghetto props"...go
white boy!...go white boy go!...

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Go to this web site and click on the GlobeXplorer Viewer, then type in your 
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Subject: RE: [mw] designer drugs

now jen, he wasn't really RAVING...he was just doing his job as the
official shit starter!

i like posting to emails only if they're at least 4 days old,
h

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Jen Anderson wrote:

> >BOOO TOOO RAAAVEESSS
> 
> 
> This coming from the boy who was raving so hard this past weekend, I thought 
> he was gonna collapse!
> 
> -Jen
> 
> When they were introduced, he made a witicism, hoping to be liked.  She laughed extremley hard, hoping to be liked.  Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead with the very same twist to their faces.
> -David Foster Wallace
> 
> One time, in High School, my friend beat up these two retarded kids for wearing the same shoes as him.
> -Life Sucks Die Magazine
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Subject: [mw] Suggestions for the current state of MW-Raves

Hi all. After reading these posts about the list and what should be I
thought I'd give some suggestions. I've already sent Chad an e-mail about
this and he thought I should share it with the list. 
My suggestion is to moderate the list or maybe even certain people that tend
to cause problems. This would cut down a lot of pointless posts plus all the
posts that are spam and don't even belong on mw-raves (ex, the info of
parties in Maine and New York). It would also cut down on a lot of
one-liners and posts that could be e-mailed to people privately .I know a
lot of you are thinking that moderation is bullshit but it does work. My
girlfriend is the list admin for sf-raves and they were having some of the
same trouble that mw-raves was having but having a lot higher e-mail volume.
So what she did was put the list of moderation. But this didn't mean it was
going to be moderated the whole time. She'll add people one by one to the
allow list and their posts are not moderated. At first the list seem dead
because the posts were not coming in through out the day but as more and
more people are on the allow list the list is back to normal and with better
quality posts. And it's not like every post is thrown out or there are
favorites. Though when e-mails turn into hating on  people ( a couple people
for sure could be on moderation on this list) they are thrown out because
there is no reason for name calling and hating on a list like mw-raves or
SF-raves, and this ends though long flame wars that a lot of people are sick
of. A lot of people really hated it at first but a lot of those people who
were saying it was a horrible idea are now saying the list is a better place
and people who left the list because of what it was turning into have joined
back. For the short time I've been on that list I've seen a big change and
it's for the better. I also see what the list admin goes through each day
and if people actually knew what went on I don't think a lot of people would
be giving Chad such a hard time. With 2 people on the mw-raves list acting
as moderator no one can say that anyone is playing favorites. I know I'm no
longer living in the midwest and a lot of people are going to be saying why
do you care? I've been on this list for about 4 years maybe a little longer.
I've met some wonderful people and a lot of them have been there for me when
i needed the help. So my heart still belongs to this list and that's why
I'll continue to be on the list no matter what part of the country I'm
living in. Well I'm sure they'll will a lot of negative and positive replies
to this..These were just my suggestions and hopefully some of the ideas will
be used to make mw-raves a better list once again.

Just my 2 cents

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Subject: [mw] A post for all those drivers out there

 Hey Everyone!
    Know I know we all may not own or drive cars but we all ride in them and=
=20
we all play the Shotgun game. So I thought I would do a public service and=20
post the official rules to shotgun for the world to know. At least in this=20
crazy world of ours we can have at least one constant thing! The Official=20
shotgun rules are here for you all to use, so please use them wisely. If you=
=20
have any comments please feel free to E mail me privately.
Peace
Odi



The Theory=20
The term Shotgun refers to the front passenger seat of an automobile. Callin=
g=20
"Shotgun" is the act of claiming the position of Shotgun for one's self. As=20
this position is the most coveted of all positions when riding in a car, the=
=20
following list of rules has been created to ensure that Shotgun can be=20
acquired in a fair and equitable manner by any passenger of an automobile.=20

=20

The History=20
The history of calling "Shotgun" goes back to the days of covered wagons and=
=20
the Wild West. On a trip across the plains, the driver of a wagon would hold=
=20
the reins of his horse team and concentrate on driving. This left him and th=
e=20
occupants of his wagon susceptible to sneak attacks from bandits and thieves=
.=20
To avoid this atrocious circumstance it became necessary for one person to=20
sit next to the driver with a shotgun and fend off the enemy.=20
Defending against bandits is no longer the priority of Shotgun however, but=20
it has evolved into a pre-driving ritual that is experienced before almost=20
every car ride across America and even the world. Because of the obvious=20
evolution that has already occurred with Shotgun, we ask you to consider=20
Shotgun as a living entity and be aware that it is always changing for the=20
better good of society.=20

=20

The Rules=20
The following rules have been created through many years of exploring the=20
ritual of Shotgun and are designed with the idea of fairness to all as the=20
main priority. They are also the most complete and comprehensive listing of=20
Shotgun rules available today.=20

=20

You Must Say the Word "Shotgun"=20
You must say the word "Shotgun" to stake your claim on Shotgun. This must be=
=20
done clearly and loud enough so that at least one other to-be occupant of th=
e=20
vehicle can hear you. No variations of this word are acceptable. After you=20
have rightfully called Shotgun, you have exclusive rights to Shotgun for tha=
t=20
ride. However, if no one hears you call Shotgun it is still fair game for=20
everyone.=20

=20

The Deed must be done before Shotgun can be called=20
For these rules to work properly, it is essential for you to understand and=20
accept the concept of the "Deed." Shotgun may only be called after the "deed=
=20
is done." Simply stated, the deed is any activity or objective that directly=
=20
precedes the ride in the automobile. The deed can be anything ranging from a=
=20
visit at a friend's house, to a shopping trip at the mall, to a visit to the=
=20
Grand Canyon. We cannot stress how important this is because this establishe=
s=20
a Shotgun-calling time frame that ensures everyone has an equal chance of=20
recognizing when to call Shotgun.=20
There is no crime greater than calling Shotgun on Monday in reference to the=
=20
ride to the concert on Friday. Some people choose to play this way, and they=
=20
are fools.=20

=20

You must be Outside to call Shotgun=20
The best way to establish exactly when the deed is done is to define this=20
moment as the instance that you have left the building in which the deed too=
k=20
place. All passengers need not to have exited, but someone must hear you cal=
l=20
Shotgun.=20
Some people choose to use a variation of this rule and require that all=20
occupants be out of the building before Shotgun can be called. This does not=
=20
work. It leads to everyone calling Shotgun at the same time and often ends i=
n=20
physical violence.=20

The Barefoot Rule=20
Since you must be outside to call Shotgun, some people will just grab their=20
shoes, jump outside, and call Shotgun before putting their shoes on. This ha=
s=20
been deemed "gaping," and is not a legal procedure. You must have your shoes=
=20
on, if you choose to wear any, before you may call Shotgun.=20

The Re-entry Rule=20
If you call Shotgun and then go back inside for some reason, you must re-cal=
l=20
Shotgun after leaving. After you have re-entered the building, Shotgun is=20
once again fair game to all.=20

=20

When the deed is Outdoors=20
If the deed takes place outdoors, which it often does, the completion of the=
=20
deed must be agreed upon when Shotgun is called. Any major disputes over the=
=20
completion of the deed, as with any discrepancy, can be easily settled with=20=
a=20
quick round of Rock, Paper, Scissors.=20

The Line-of-Sight Rule=20
In the situation of the deed being a hike or other extensive outdoor=20
activity, you may not call Shotgun until the automobile is within your sight=
.=20
This rule needs only to be used when the passengers are outside for a long=20
time and have traveled long distances from the car, as with a day of snow=20
skiing.=20

=20

Miscellaneous=20

Hand on Door=20
Shotgun can no longer be called once someone's hand is holding the shotgun=20
door handle. This officially stakes their claim to Shotgun and calling it at=
=20
this time is just redundant. This is one scenario where a person does not=20
actually have to say Shotgun to get the seat. This rule's importance is that=
=20
no one has to be around for you to stake your claim to Shotgun, whereas=20
usually one other would-be occupant must be present for you to call it.=20

Sit Down=20
If you manage to sit in Shotgun before anyone has called it, you keep the=20
position even if someone else calls shotgun after you sat down. This is very=
=20
similar to the Hand on Door rule, where you do not actually have to say=20
Shotgun nor does anyone else have to be present for you to claim it.=20

The Balk=20
This rule is applied when you have called Shotgun and are waiting for the=20
doors to be unlocked. If you lift the handle while the doors are being=20
unlocked and therefore cause the Shotgun door to remain locked, then you are=
 "
voided" for that ride. At this time Shotgun is available for all of the othe=
r=20
passengers to call.=20

Garages=20
If you are in a small garage, it is considered outside if the garage door is=
=20
open or is opening. If the car is parked in a closed garage, Shotgun can be=20
called as soon as you enter the room, regardless of the position of the=20
garage door. Note: Larger parking garages are always considered outdoors eve=
n=20
if they are underground.=20

Multiple Cars=20
In the situation where a group of people are traveling in multiple cars, you=
=20
must specify which car you are calling Shotgun for. For example: if the two=20
drivers are named "Bob" and "Sue," then someone must say "Shotgun Bob" or=20
"Shotgun Sue" depending on which car they would like to ride in.=20

Shotgun Abandonment=20
If the Shotgun occupant exits the car to accomplish a deed, Shotgun becomes=20
eligible to the remaining passengers in the back seat(s). Once Shotgun is=20
available, you must call Shotgun before the other occupants. Often times=20
there is discrepancy regarding when Shotgun actually becomes available.=20
Several attempts have been made to clearly define this point, yet no truly=20
fair rule can be applied here. For this reason, one game of Rock, Paper,=20
Scissors is usually the easiest way to solve the problem. Exception: If the=20
Shotgun rider abandoned the seat to do a deed for the driver, i.e.,=20
purchasing cigarettes or pumping gas, that person retains Shotgun.=20

Other Seats=20
Once the Shotgun seat has been called by someone, the other less prestigious=
=20
seats in the car may be claimed using the same rules as calling Shotgun. For=
=20
example: you can say "back-right" or "back-center."=20

Remain Seated=20
If you choose to remain in the automobile while the other passengers=20
accomplish their deed, you may retain full rights to Shotgun. Often times no=
t=20
everyone needs to go inside when doing menial deeds so this can be a good=20
rule. It can be abused however when a certain person is willing to wait in=20
the car for extensive periods of time in order to retain the rights to=20
Shotgun. This type of person is considered to be a "Shotgun Gaper."=20

The Shotgun Gaper=20
Gapers (gay-pers) are people who prioritize Shotgun much more than a normal=20
human being. These people will alter their usual behavior and even undermine=
=20
their own ethics in order to gain the rights to Shotgun. They do this throug=
h=20
legal means however, such as sprinting for doors, so they cannot be "voided.=
"=20
The term gaper was originally given to Will Henderson who once rode Shotgun=20
for 2 months straight. The advantage to being a Shotgun Gaper, of course, is=
=20
you always get Shotgun. Being a Shotgun Gaper, however, is frowned upon.=20

=20

Voiding=20
Whenever you break a Shotgun rule as stated in this guide, you may be voided=
=20
from receiving Shotgun privileges for that ride. Although somewhat=20
discretionary, voiding automatically applies if you call Shotgun while=20
indoors, or if you do not have your shoes on and call Shotgun, or if you=20
display any other blatant disregard for Shotgun protocol. In circumstances o=
f=20
minor Shotgun rules infractions, voiding may not need to be exercised. Being=
=20
void only applies for the ride directly after the voiding has occurred and=20
after that ride you may regain full Shotgun privileges. Once someone has bee=
n=20
voided, then all of the other passengers are free to once again call Shotgun=
=20
in the correct manner.=20

=20

Discrepancies=20
If a discrepancy ever occurs, and they commonly do, over who rightfully gets=
=20
Shotgun, it is usually settled with a single game of Rock, Paper, Scissors.=20=
A=20
common application of this procedure takes place after two people call=20
Shotgun at the same time. Click here to play a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors=
=20
against the computer.=20
Special note regarding discrepancies: many people use a "driver override"=20
rule that says the driver of the car settles any discrepancies. The driver=20
override rule also says that a driver has the final say about who gets to=20
ride Shotgun. This version of the rule is very subjective and defeats the=20
purpose of calling Shotgun. Rock, Paper, Scissors is a much more fair and=20
objective way of settling any disputes.=20

=20

New Rules=20
Because Shotgun is a living entity and constantly changing, new rules always=
=20
need to be created. Any group of people is welcome to implement their own=20
rule if the situation arises. A new rule will often be created following a=20
major discrepancy. The important rule regarding this however, is that the ne=
w=20
rule does not take effect until the next car ride.=20

=20

Exceptions=20
Although the Shotgun rules have been created with ultimate fairness in mind,=
=20
there are situations where exceptions need to be implemented.=20

Significant Others=20
This is the most important exception. If a significant other (SO) is include=
d=20
in the group of automobile passengers and this person is the SO or potential=
=20
SO of the driver, then they get automatic Shotgun privileges.=20

Multiple Calls=20
There is a rare exception where more than one person may have rightfully=20
called Shotgun. This happens when multiple groups of people are meeting at a=
=20
car, and both groups had someone claim Shotgun. If it cannot be determined=20
who made the call first, then the only fair way to settle the dispute is wit=
h=20
Rock, Paper, Scissors.=20

Owner-Driver Switch=20
If someone is driving an automobile other than its owner and the owner=20
becomes a passenger, then the owner automatically gets Shotgun. When applied=
,=20
this rule shows respect to the owner of the car.=20
The Long Haul=20
The rules listed above have been designed around the shorter trip (less than=
=20
1 hour). For longer journeys it is best not to use these rules because the=20
incentives to be a gaper are too great. Rather, you should divide Shotgun=20
equally among those who want it.=20

=20

Would you like to have your site featured on the Official Shotgun Rules? Go=20
to this page to find out more.=20

=20

Tell a friend about this site.=20
This entire website was written and created by Hanuman Technologies. Any=20
duplication, redistribution, or other copying of this site is strictly=20
prohibited without written consent from Hanuman Technologies. Send questions=
=20
and comments to the Webmaster. All rights reserved.=20

=A9 1996-2000 Joshua Pearson, Thomas Reuter, William Henderson


Page last modified on Thu Nov 30 20:15:50 2000  =20


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Subject: Re: [mw] mk...true ghetto props!...


>Yes, Michael is one of the more successful welfare
>recipients by participating in the CIA/Crack Program,
>he was able to lift himself out of the ghettos and
>acquire quite a record collection and has made
>quite a name for himself as one of the less flaming
>homosexual happy hardcore dj's!!

yes, that's what appears under my name on flyers.

>Unfortunately, on each attempt at party production,
>he was unable to suppress his bitterness toward
>the world...with his first party failing miserably due to
>the vengence of minorities who took offense to all
>his biting racial remarks on mw-raves...and his second
>party equally as unsucessful due to his own kind
>hating him and throwing a less expensive party on
>the same night...of course, the snow storm that hit the
>night of his party by opposing the "mw-raves messiah"
>did not help also...

since you had to bring this up - my first party was a roaring success.  my 
second was a disaster and didn't even happen.  neither event had anything 
*Rto do with you or my bitterness or my "biting racial remarks on 
mw-raves".  the thing this past w/e turned sour because of the fire alarms 
being set off, and i was only on the periphery of the production on that 
show anyway, as it was a showcase event for my crew.

>However, by losing in all aspects of life, Michael is the
>first caucasian to have earned "true ghetto props"...go
>white boy!...go white boy go!...

what the hell are you talking about?

mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] as you were, i guess.


> i'll be happy to consider any real suggestions/ courses of action that
> people may feel are necessary... but simply telling me to "do something"
> without any real input as to what it is you want done is not enough and
> those kinds of messages will promptly be ignored.

i just fail to understand why complaints/suggestions made to the list go
ignored and seem to be considered invalid by you. from what i've seen, you
only consider complaints personally addressed to you. 

so, ravers, if you have a gripe about the list don't bother telling the
list about it, tell chad@hyperreal.org directly, or else you won't be
heard.

and chad, in terms of "do something" i stated clearly a while back that
certain people with a propensity to cause arguments and post nothing but
nrr bible quotes, gun rants and conspiracy theories should at least be
moderated. but what does my opinion count for? i'm just a list member, one
that's obviously been wasting her breath this whole time. so whatever, i'm
done.

/j











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Subject: Re: [mw] Re: pixie involvement with thee presidential scandal!

HOT DAMN!!

checkmate, bitch.
pixie

> 
> it was you who called my work with the inane false
> accusations?!...you evil bitch from hell!!..
> 
> i'm putting you on the Bill Clinton hit list (he
> owes me one,
> because it was i who saved him from the assasination
> attempt upon him that was to take place on day one
> of the G8
> Meeting in Tokyo)!!...you god damned, whore of
> babylon!!
> ...everybody knows you were a part of the monica
> lewinsky/
> linda tripp EVIL feminine plot connection!!...our
> sources indicate 
> that you were the one that originally tipped linda
> tripp off to 
> record the conversations!!...why can't you die
> already?!...each 
> time a head is chopped of...another medussa mug
> grows in its 
> place!!...and don't you dare try bribing Laura Bush
> or her daughter
> with any of your other sinister plots for world
> domination!!...extra 
> MIB's are protecting her from your filthy
> tentacles!!


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Subject: Re: [mw] mk...true ghetto props!...

This was halfway funny, but Stevie, your still gay as
ever.
As soon as you start to get funny, your hunger for
large objects shoved up your ass takes over and you
wind up taking a giant shit on whatever started out a
halfway decently funny story.
You get all suburb props butt boy!!

--- Son316east@aol.com wrote:
> michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
> 
> << mk@oh.welfare.gov >>
> 
> Yes, Michael is one of the more successful welfare 
> recipients by participating in the CIA/Crack
> Program, 
> he was able to lift himself out of the ghettos and
> acquire quite a record collection and has made
> quite a name for himself as one of the less flaming
> homosexual happy hardcore dj's!!
> 
> Unfortunately, on each attempt at party production,
> he was unable to suppress his bitterness toward
> the world...with his first party failing miserably
> due to
> the vengence of minorities who took offense to all
> his biting racial remarks on mw-raves...and his
> second
> party equally as unsucessful due to his own kind 
> hating him and throwing a less expensive party on
> the same night...of course, the snow storm that hit
> the
> night of his party by opposing the "mw-raves
> messiah" 
> did not help also...
> 
> However, by losing in all aspects of life, Michael
> is the
> first caucasian to have earned "true ghetto
> props"...go
> white boy!...go white boy go!...
> 
>
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Subject: Re: [mw] OUTKAST mar 16 aragon

I wanna go!  =P

anyone have details?


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<< On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:02PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
 > Anyone going to this show? Yes, I know Outkast is pretty mainstream, but
 > they still the ATL funk....
 
 I'll most likely be there.  Ludicrous is opening, too, which should be
 hilarious (they're the ones that do "I wanna lick lick lick you from
 your head to your toes.")
 
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contact ticketmaster...



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I wanna go!  =P

anyone have details?


In a message dated 1/30/01 12:10:16 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:02PM -0600, Noble Long wrote:
 > Anyone going to this show? Yes, I know Outkast is pretty mainstream, but
 > they still the ATL funk....
 
 I'll most likely be there.  Ludicrous is opening, too, which should be
 hilarious (they're the ones that do "I wanna lick lick lick you from
 your head to your toes.")
 
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Subject: RE: [mw] ohhh this is funny

i'm not positive but a minor enjoys all the rights of an adult, but not all
the privledges, since they don't have to deal with as many
responsibilities... i.e. a minor isn't financially liable which is why its
impossible for a minor to get their OWN credit card... unless you get
yourself emancipated i guess...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pixie [mailto:stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:12 AM
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] ohhh this is funny
>
>
> > sorry to break this brighteyes, but there is no
> > freedom of speech in school.
>
> someone else would have to get deeper into this,
> unless i have time to research it before someone else
> does...but i remember being told in high school that
> anyone under 18 does not have the same rights as
> adults under the constitution. something about being
> the property of your parents/legal guardian. please if
> anyone knows anything deeper about this, correct me or
> elaborate...my brain hurts from work today.
>
> yeah, it sounds full of shit to me too, but i *do*
> know that i was told that, misinformation or not.
> pixie
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Subject: Re: [mw] I Have Pressing Needs

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From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>



> On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 09:44:02PM -0600, I Dropper wrote:
> > I'd consider 50 to 200 records small...
> 
> United Record Pressing is doing a special where you can press 80 records
> for fairly cheap including mastering and everything- that might be a
> good deal for you (www.urpressing.com).  Outside of that, you'd probably
> have to master it for about $300 and press them for around a dollar
> a piece, which wouldn't be that cost effective.


Thanks a lot for the info!




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>
> >I'd consider 50 to 200 records small...
>
> i don't know anyone that's done a run smaller than 300.  i imagine you
> could do any size, but of course it's gonna cost you more per-record.


Some places you can't place an order that small, but with some you could
have just one record pressed if you want to pay a big "setup fee".


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but micah's my favorite too! DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING I'M EASILY
AMUSED TOO PIXIE?????

love,
heather

On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, pixie wrote:

> 
> > for the record he is NOT my favorite....micah is 
> 
> yeah but you're so easily amused.
> 
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<snip>
.I know a
> lot of you are thinking that moderation is bullshit but it does work.
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> Just my 2 cents
>
> James


I'd vote for a set of mutually agreed upon rules of ettiquette and
behaviour, and a set mutually agreed upon set of consequences for
infractions up to and including deletion from the list after the fact. I
just find arbitrary top down management style moderation too oppressive. I'm
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even the agitators know how to keep it civil when they know they will
quickly be expelled if they try to dominate the list or break rules.

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On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, I Dropper wrote:

> I'd vote for a set of mutually agreed upon rules of ettiquette and
> behaviour, and a set mutually agreed upon set of consequences for
> infractions up to and including deletion from the list after the fact. I
> just find arbitrary top down management style moderation too oppressive. I'm
> on one activist organising list that uses that system quite well, because
> even the agitators know how to keep it civil when they know they will
> quickly be expelled if they try to dominate the list or break rules.

Some quick opinions.  First off it was I who somehow pissed people off and
they wanted me banned.  In response to that, I must say whoever it was
that said some people/rave party attenders are not going to hold typical
raver beliefs was correct.  I didn't respond to any of the post about me
cause there was no reason too.  I originally signed up mainly to get the
calender which I usually save.  However of the 10% (possibly 20% due to
the last weeks responses) of the post I even OPEN and read, I am going to
respond to those in which I feel it necessary to fight for certain rights.
I say what I believe in and how I vote only to be told by some asshold
that I am somehow anti-everything and that I am a Republican.  However I
see no one, including myself yelling for his removal.  Second, moderation
will never work and certain types on here will think they can do no wrong.
Also, if we were to moderate, the simple rule of "It must be rave related"
sounds good, but at some point in time, someone is going to go on a
tangent.  IF they are no immediately kicked off, then anyone who follows
shouldn't be as well.  The problme is some would scream for my ass to be
booted while if someone else (a friend) went off on a tangent, they would
sit there and say nothing.  So in order to make this work, the moderator
would have to show NO favortism and be able to keep any message not rave
related from being posted.  ANother thing could be we all request
everything not rave related to contain "OT" in the subject line.
Personally I think some on this list want to read what I say.  WHy I will
never know.  Like I said, before the last week or so, I was only OPENING
15% or so of the messages.  


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jonny plurbunny got suspended?  doh SHIT!  i heard that pound of 
crack/cocaine was on its way to blinky's nose.  whatever, how are they gonna 
suspend someone just for having a pound of illegal drugs?  i thought we were 
suposed to have right to assembly and freedom of speech.  welp, theres a cup 
of GHB waiting for me at the dinner table of my enourmous dinig room in my 
enormous brick house with patio and 7 SUV garage.  im out.  aaron.

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Subject: [mw] SUBsequence Fri Feb 9 INDY

coming in less than two weeks...

the first in an ongoing series of biweekly events, SUBterror brings you quality electronic music in an intimate setting...

we invite you to the first  
SUBsequence  Friday February 9, 2001 Indianapolis, IN

featuring (in order of appearance):

J Cross (drum n bass)- Indy/SUBterror
Adam Jay (LIVE techno PA)- Indy/SUBterror; Azure Records
DJ Oracle (deep techno & electro)- Cincy/Databank;djoracle.com
DJ Shiva (techno)- SUBterror/The Goddess Complex

doors open at 11 pm - $5 at the door

Info & directions:
SUBterror/The Goddess Complex 317.335.MIXX
Azure Records 317.767.5962
www.SUBterrorHQ.com

The venue is the Festivilla, located on Massachussetts Ave. just west of Rural Ave.  This venue is safe, secure and heated with fenced in parking and clean restroom.  There is also a snack bar/refreshment stand and two free Playstation games to geek out on.  :)

for a detailed map, go to http://www.subterrorhq.com/substance.html

Some simple directions:

If you're on 70E take the Rural exit and go right at the stop sign.  Go through one light and turn RIGHT at the next light at 
Massachussetts Ave.  Go about a mile and a half and the Festivilla is on your left.

If you're on 70W take the Rural exit and go LEFT at the light.  Go through one light and turn RIGHT at the next light at Massachussetts Ave.  Go about a mile and a half and the Festivilla is on your left.




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Moderation sucks. Plain and Simple. I love one-liners and the small trolls
that lurk in the shadows.... Chaos is good sometimes... you should try it...
Moderate me... just try and do it. I'll be back. I'm always back. SoCalRaves
is the shit!

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From: James-Martin <JMartin4@OfficeDepot.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: [mw] Suggestions for the current state of MW-Raves


> Hi all. After reading these posts about the list and what should be I
> thought I'd give some suggestions. I've already sent Chad an e-mail about
> this and he thought I should share it with the list.
> My suggestion is to moderate the list or maybe even certain people that
tend
> to cause problems. This would cut down a lot of pointless posts plus all
the
> posts that are spam and don't even belong on mw-raves (ex, the info of
> parties in Maine and New York). It would also cut down on a lot of
> one-liners and posts that could be e-mailed to people privately .I know a
> lot of you are thinking that moderation is bullshit but it does work. My
> girlfriend is the list admin for sf-raves and they were having some of the
> same trouble that mw-raves was having but having a lot higher e-mail
volume.
> So what she did was put the list of moderation. But this didn't mean it
was
> going to be moderated the whole time. She'll add people one by one to the
> allow list and their posts are not moderated. At first the list seem dead
> because the posts were not coming in through out the day but as more and
> more people are on the allow list the list is back to normal and with
better
> quality posts. And it's not like every post is thrown out or there are
> favorites. Though when e-mails turn into hating on  people ( a couple
people
> for sure could be on moderation on this list) they are thrown out because
> there is no reason for name calling and hating on a list like mw-raves or
> SF-raves, and this ends though long flame wars that a lot of people are
sick
> of. A lot of people really hated it at first but a lot of those people who
> were saying it was a horrible idea are now saying the list is a better
place
> and people who left the list because of what it was turning into have
joined
> back. For the short time I've been on that list I've seen a big change and
> it's for the better. I also see what the list admin goes through each day
> and if people actually knew what went on I don't think a lot of people
would
> be giving Chad such a hard time. With 2 people on the mw-raves list acting
> as moderator no one can say that anyone is playing favorites. I know I'm
no
> longer living in the midwest and a lot of people are going to be saying
why
> do you care? I've been on this list for about 4 years maybe a little
longer.
> I've met some wonderful people and a lot of them have been there for me
when
> i needed the help. So my heart still belongs to this list and that's why
> I'll continue to be on the list no matter what part of the country I'm
> living in. Well I'm sure they'll will a lot of negative and positive
replies
> to this..These were just my suggestions and hopefully some of the ideas
will
> be used to make mw-raves a better list once again.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
> James
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<rvkeller@iupui.edu> wrote:
> =

> =

> On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, I Dropper wrote:
> =

> > I'd vote for a set of mutually agreed upon rules of ettiquette and
> > behaviour, and a set mutually agreed upon set of consequences for
> > infractions up to and including deletion from the list after the fact=
=2E I
> > just find arbitrary top down management style moderation too oppressi=
ve.
I'm
> > on one activist organising list that uses that system quite well, bec=
ause
> > even the agitators know how to keep it civil when they know they will=

> > quickly be expelled if they try to dominate the list or break rules.
> =

> Some quick opinions.  First off it was I who somehow pissed people off =
and
> they wanted me banned.  In response to that, I must say whoever it was
> that said some people/rave party attenders are not going to hold typica=
l
> raver beliefs was correct.  I didn't respond to any of the post about m=
e
> cause there was no reason too.  I originally signed up mainly to get th=
e
> calender which I usually save.  However of the 10% (possibly 20% due to=

> the last weeks responses) of the post I even OPEN and read, I am going =
to
> respond to those in which I feel it necessary to fight for certain righ=
ts.
> I say what I believe in and how I vote only to be told by some asshold
> that I am somehow anti-everything and that I am a Republican.  However =
I
> see no one, including myself yelling for his removal.  Second, moderati=
on
> will never work and certain types on here will think they can do no wro=
ng.
> Also, if we were to moderate, the simple rule of "It must be rave relat=
ed"
> sounds good, but at some point in time, someone is going to go on a
> tangent.  IF they are no immediately kicked off, then anyone who follow=
s
> shouldn't be as well.  The problme is some would scream for my ass to b=
e
> booted while if someone else (a friend) went off on a tangent, they wou=
ld
> sit there and say nothing.  So in order to make this work, the moderato=
r
> would have to show NO favortism and be able to keep any message not rav=
e
> related from being posted.  ANother thing could be we all request
> everything not rave related to contain "OT" in the subject line.
> Personally I think some on this list want to read what I say.  WHy I wi=
ll
> never know.  Like I said, before the last week or so, I was only OPENIN=
G
> 15% or so of the messages.  =


I've been involved in other lists that have been moderated. The way it wo=
rked
was that as tanget threads began, the poster(s) would be warned via priva=
te
email to either stop the thread or continue the discussion via private em=
ail,
and and there would be a post to the list by the moderator saying that th=
at
thread is an offtopic tangent and is to be stopped, again stating that if=

people wish to continue it via private email they should do so.  It is on=
ly
when people coninue a tangent/offtopic thread that they have been warned =
about
that will be cause for removal from the list.  This sort of policy seems =
to
work well, it gives people a little slack for what they post, it takes ca=
re of
getting rid of people who continually continue off topic threads, but it
requires a lot of work on the part of the moderator(s), as they have to r=
ead
all the messages and keep up with everything before things get out of han=
d.

-Jeff

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ok...  general moderation.  it's so ridiculous I won't even talk about it.  

kicking someone off for continuted abuse and harassment (it happened, and
he's back now for some reason) is a whole other story.

but that's not really what I wanted to bring up...  I mentioned it before
in a somewhat cryptic manner one night when I was irritated with things,
but here it is again:

I'm on another list (webdesign-l, look it up if you want) that, moderation
policies aside, has one policy I really really admire.  I don't know if
it's even possible with ezmlm and I wouldn't have the knowledge to do it
myself, but if there's enough interest I'll dig around and see if i can
find anyone that's using it now.

So yeah, the policy is enforced trimming of replies and forwards. I'm not
even sure what it looks for, maybe a whole bunch of pointless header
information at the top, maybe >>>>>> added from over-replying... i don't
know.  But if your post is filled with reply crap, it'll send it back to
you and tell you to clean it up.

On the surface, it's pretty cool... it's incredibly helpful for digest
subscribers and people on slow connections.  Plus we don't have to look at
that ugly crap.  But I think there's a deeper benefit to it - you actually
have to *THINK* before you post something.  it'd cut out a lot of
pointless one-liners without imposing a no-one-liner rule.  It might be a
step towards a flock of clueless new-to-the-net types getting a
clue.  whatever.  I just think it's really cool... and if it's at all
practical through ezmlm I think we should consider it.

yeah, that's all i've got to say...  anyone here know more about the
arcane inner workings of the mysterious contraptions known as listerv
programs?

blah,

chris


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Subject: [mw] list policy


> So yeah, the policy is enforced trimming of replies and forwards.


i sooo wanted to be the smartass who pasted your whole message into a one
liner reply, but instead, i am showing my support of this idea by taking the
high road.  i agree with that chris feller.

i also wish people would post LINKS to interesting stories and or absolute
bullshit they feel the need to share.

additionally, sig files that are larger than the average message i can do
without.

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the main reason i re-joined this list was for chaos...mad chaos...a little
chaos goes a long way.

i also moderate a forum
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowars    

and have best moderated it by leaving it alone. boy, you should see it when
the fundies and the wiccans (i welcome them all) start going at it.
challenge and discussion and egos and bullshit can be a healthy thing in
moderation, but not necessarily through moderating.


Noble

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From: Hector G. [mailto:Drenarius@netzero.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:42 PM
To: James-Martin; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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Moderation sucks. Plain and Simple. I love one-liners and the small trolls
that lurk in the shadows.... Chaos is good sometimes... you should try it...
Moderate me... just try and do it. I'll be back. I'm always back. SoCalRaves
is the shit!

-Doc
Don't hate the Playa, hate tha Game
608-277-9861

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From mw-raves-return-15981-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 08:32:45 2001
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At 12:37 AM 2001-01-31, Noble Long wrote:

>the main reason i re-joined this list was for chaos...mad chaos...a little
>chaos goes a long way.

For once i'll agree with the dork, mw's value is in it's chaos.


>i also moderate a forum
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowars
>
>and have best moderated it by leaving it alone. boy, you should see it when
>the fundies and the wiccans (i welcome them all) start going at it.
>challenge and discussion and egos and bullshit can be a healthy thing in
>moderation, but not necessarily through moderating.

The idea of moderation or prevention of one-liners or off-topic posts on a 
list like this seems absolutely bozotic... it's the mortar of the list.

I agree with the idea of setting up basic rules and banning people who 
repeatedly (like more than 10 times, warned at each one?) offend.  I'm 
honestly tired of hearing about how the solar flares are bringing about the 
fourteenth coming which signals the shady dealers in cleveland to bring 
about the end of the world by The Man keeping asians out of jobs.

And of course, there's always the idea of client-side mail filters.  I 
doubt anyone here uses a mailreader that can't filter a specific from 
address automagically.  If you have a problem with a certain person, relief 
is usually a few clicks away.

I don't think there needs to be list software to prevent forwards being 
posted.  It could be a rule not to post anything that says 'forward this to 
everyone you know' (or words to that effect) to the list, and another rule 
not to reply to such posts.  The watchers could then notify the offender 
that their offense count had been incremented.

Having the number set at 10 gives even the most slow-learning time to catch 
on to how things work.

"Uhhhh... look! I don't know what your problem is... but I simply cannot 
have students wandering the hallways during class, interrupting other 
classes and giving prophesies of a great plague!"
  --principal mcvicker  (http://www.ummed.edu/pub/d/dmorin2/cornholio.html)


it's just an idea, i don't think the "rules" list would have to be very 
long at all, mabye five or six entries.  just a "if your post matches one 
of these, it's not good and shouldnt be sent" list.


suggestions include:
a) posts that lack any content or value whatsoever once the insults and 
hyperbole have been removed
b) posts prophesying the end of the world
c) posts that rant about political oppression without any rave-relatedness 
whatsoever

rather than trying to limit the list to the purely good (i.e. 
absolutely-on-topic discussion), i think the first step would be to 
eliminate the clearly negative and bad.

talking out my ass,
-j



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I just joined.  Cannot wait for the discussions to start.  First a second
interview for a new job, now this, and next week the return of Art.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Noble Long wrote:

> the main reason i re-joined this list was for chaos...mad chaos...a little
> chaos goes a long way.
> 
> i also moderate a forum
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/infowars    
> 
> and have best moderated it by leaving it alone. boy, you should see it when
> the fundies and the wiccans (i welcome them all) start going at it.
> challenge and discussion and egos and bullshit can be a healthy thing in
> moderation, but not necessarily through moderating.
> 
> 
> Noble
> 
> we spend more in taxes than we spend on food, clothing, and shelter
> combined.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hector G. [mailto:Drenarius@netzero.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 9:42 PM
> To: James-Martin; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [mw] Suggestions for the current state of MW-Raves
> 
> 
> Moderation sucks. Plain and Simple. I love one-liners and the small trolls
> that lurk in the shadows.... Chaos is good sometimes... you should try it...
> Moderate me... just try and do it. I'll be back. I'm always back. SoCalRaves
> is the shit!
> 
> -Doc
> Don't hate the Playa, hate tha Game
> 608-277-9861
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Jeffrey Paul wrote:

>  I'm 
> honestly tired of hearing about how the solar flares are bringing about the 
> fourteenth coming which signals the shady dealers in cleveland to bring 
> about the end of the world by The Man keeping asians out of jobs.


The problem is people wanted me banned due to my polticial beliefs.  Some
smart ass kept saying I was an anti-everything Republican even after I
publically made my views clear.  When he stated that thing about
conspiracy gun nut I figured it was time to just dig in and play along.

Also, could someone re post the rules.  I accidently deleted them.




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+> So yeah, the policy is enforced trimming of replies and forwards.

yeah, i would like to try setting up something like this... but it will
take some research on my part as i'm not a huge scripting wizard or
anything remotely close to it.  what's a script? :)

i'll look more closely into this, though... if anyone else cares to do
the same, please let me know what you find out.  i actually joined that
WD list a bit ago, and found the posts to be very thoughtful... 

also, i talked to trout (the admin of pb-cle) after hearing he had an
interesting way of dealing with off-topic posts.

he created a separate off-topic list that's left unmoderated...
anything's fair game, while the normal list is left for discussion of
parties which, contrary to what some people may think, is why these lists
are here in the first place.

anyone who posts off topic material to the normal list is asked to take
those kinds of posts to the other list and the off topic thread is then
added to a filter so that it can't continue.  

people who repeatedly break the rules of the normal list are unsubbed.

there's also the option that james brought up...  we could add a bunch of
moderators and go through the posts and approve which are to be sent out,
but that could get so tedious, and could bring up certain other issues
that escape me at the moment.  

as it is right now, i think i'd like to try trout's method of creating an
off topic list and sort of having the original mw-raves and a
mw-raves-evil-twin list where anything goes...  thoughts on this?

chad
_          
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evil twins list, LOL
Good idea, but I bet the bad list will be much more popular

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Back once again....   here we go kids....

P R O P H E T   E Z E K I A L (prophecy inc. - cincinnati) - Happycore

D J   P H R E N Z Y (denny's creature - dayton) - Drum n' Bass

D I G I T A L   P S Y K O S I S (cia/dna labs/in the groove - cincinnati) - 
Trance

D A N N O (cia/dna labs - dayton) - Drum n' Bass

D J   S O N I Q   S T Y L Z (denny's creature/substance music usa - dayton) - 
House

ACTIV8 is located at Sirens Niteclub every wednesday night.
1130  E. Central Ave., West Carrolton, OH,   937.866.6699
http://www.worlddjalliance.com/dcp

Directions:
Sirens is located just off Exit 47 West on I-75.  We are in the Roberd's 
Shopping Center on Central Ave., which is also S. Dixie Hwy., and S. 
Patterson Blvd. 

>From Cincy - Take I-75 North to Exit 47.  Make a U-turn at the light, and 
follow back under the highway.  Roberd's shopping center is on the left.

>From Columbus - Take I-70 West to 675 South.  Follow all the way to I-75 
North, and follow main directions.

>From Indy - Take I-70 East to I-75 South.  Take Exit 47, staying to the left. 
 Turn left onto Crossover, and left again into Roberd's Shopping center.

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
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In a message dated 1/31/01 12:15:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com writes:

<< additionally, sig files that are larger than the average message i can do
 without. >>

What's that supposed to mean?

meep

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In a message dated 1/31/01 4:03:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
chad@hyperreal.org writes:

<< off topic list and sort of having the original mw-raves and a
 mw-raves-evil-twin list where anything goes...  thoughts on this? >>

Yeah, on the pb-cle-ot (off topic) list, we talk about boxers v. briefs, 
shaving v. trimmed, and pill reports.  Of course, I don't read mail much 
anymore, since I get 500+ a day, and I'm never online much anymore...    
mmm...  more mail.   

meep

 - Soniq

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well, i've known amanda for something going on 5 or 6
years now, i definitely feel comfortable saying she's
easily amused. 

--- heather <hdehart@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> but micah's my favorite too! DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE
> SAYING I'M EASILY
> AMUSED TOO PIXIE?????

NO!

*shrug*   

well, i don't =]

i think somewhere in there it's wa-ay more twisted
than that ;]
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First of all, sorry for the totally empty email that's coming.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Jeffrey Paul wrote:

> The idea of moderation or prevention of one-liners or off-topic posts on a
> list like this seems absolutely bozotic... it's the mortar of the list.

For one of the first times in my life, I'm going to hav to agree with Mr.
Paul here. It wasn't this way four years ago, but the zingers, insult
trading and one-liners do make up quite a bit of the list's personality
today. If I didn't like reading that stuff, you would have seen me leave a
long time ago. I think that maybe the abuse and insulting of new people
could be cut down a little bit, but that's something we should be mature
enough to moderate ourselves. If it doesn't happen, then maybe it's
responsibility of other list members to step in and say, "Hey bozo! Shut
up and leave the poor newbie alone." I can't really see an older list
member getting offended with something like that.

As far as off-topic posts go, that's why we created NRR, right? I think
that SOME of the off-topic posts are interesting, and are good for some of
us to exercise our intellect and debate ability. I don't think ALL of them
should be continued. If someone posts something off topic, just to get
people pissed off, like the example Jeffrey gave below, then it's a
different story. We need to (in some cases) grow-up, not let others push
our buttons, and use our filters. Every time Mr. Tsang comes on with a new
email address, he automatically goes into my /dev/null folder.

> I agree with the idea of setting up basic rules and banning people who
> repeatedly (like more than 10 times, warned at each one?) offend.  I'm
> honestly tired of hearing about how the solar flares are bringing about the
> fourteenth coming which signals the shady dealers in cleveland to bring
> about the end of the world by The Man keeping asians out of jobs.
>

Again, I agree completely. Some people just need to learn how to do it. If
you don't KNOW how to use or set-up your mail filter, there are a ton of
people on this list who are willing to help you out. Who knows? If they
live in your city, you could get together, set up a mail filter and make a
new friend... (okay off candyass mode)

> And of course, there's always the idea of client-side mail filters.  I
> doubt anyone here uses a mailreader that can't filter a specific from
> address automagically.  If you have a problem with a certain person, relief
> is usually a few clicks away.
>

This is something I don't agree with 100%. Some of those extra long
forwards, spam that is forwarded to EVERY mailing list on hyperreal's
server and stuff shouldn't come through to us. I get some things like
upwards of 5 or 6 times because of this. Even though precautions are taken
to remove a majority of spam, some still leaks through. I mean the
forwards about parties in Maine and New York have really nothing to do
with the Midwest, but are sent to us, se-raves, ne-raves, sf-raves,
mtn-raves, nw-raves and god knows who else. If I need info about parties
in another area I'll ask for it or find it myself. I like the idea of
finding some way to prevent forwards from coming through. Again, it helps
the "think before you post/forward" mentality.

> I don't think there needs to be list software to prevent forwards being
> posted.  It could be a rule not to post anything that says 'forward this to
> everyone you know' (or words to that effect) to the list, and another rule
> not to reply to such posts.  The watchers could then notify the offender
> that their offense count had been incremented.

Actually you need to repeat something at least 30 times before it's
"learned". I think that 10 is too high of a number. If it's someone who's
been on the list for a while, then I think one warning is plenty. In that
case, more than likely, they're doing it on purpose. If it's someone who's
a professed newbie, then maybe 5 times maximum is a better number. I don't
think the admin. is responsible for babysitting people on here, and the
number 10 is just too high. The admin would spend more time warning that
anything else, and I don't think it's his/her/their job to have to babysit
us. Most of us are old enough to be left at home alone by now.
>
> Having the number set at 10 gives even the most slow-learning time to catch
> on to how things work.

That kind of thing is on the FAQ though, isn't it? It's been a while since
I actually READ the FAQ, but there are some posting guidelines on there.
Is there a way we can force everyone new to the list to read the FAQ and
"accept terms of agreement" before being officially subbed to the list? =)
Going even furthur, I like the idea of being able to read but not posting
for some people.. ;) As far as pet peeves go, I have only one. CUT OUT
UNNECESSARY TEXT IN REPLIES. I've done that here, though I've replied to
most of what JEffrey has said. If you're not repyling to a part of a
message, TAKE IT OUT. Also, do like me, and reply close to the thing
you're actually replying to. You don't see my typing something here that
was meant to correlate with something Jeffrey said much earlier. We don't
need to read every reply to the original email, as well as the original
email if you're not replying to each one of them.

> it's just an idea, i don't think the "rules" list would have to be very
> long at all, mabye five or six entries.  just a "if your post matches one
> of these, it's not good and shouldnt be sent" list.
>

limiting the list to purely party-talk is, in my opinion, an unrealistic
goal. it's never been that way, not since the beginning, and it won't ever
be that way. i think that as list members, we can try to make a conscious
effort to bring more rave-related discussion to the list. but to be
honest, if this became purely a party-talk, rave-related list, i'd be gone
faster than you can say "Official Mom of Mw-raves"(tm). It was never that
way, and I hope it never becomes that way.

> rather than trying to limit the list to the purely good (i.e.
> absolutely-on-topic discussion), i think the first step would be to
> eliminate the clearly negative and bad.

-- 
-Becky =)

wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
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    Agreed, this has been very effective on the hardware list, a list of
over 500 people, many of whom are friends, alot like this list. Hehe, I've
seen discussion on cars be argued to be on-topic because cars have computer
hardware built into them. =] Whatever works...

Matt Murphy
sound.light.motion
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> I've been involved in other lists that have been moderated. The way it
worked
> was that as tanget threads began, the poster(s) would be warned via
private
> email to either stop the thread or continue the discussion via private
email,
> and and there would be a post to the list by the moderator saying that
that
> thread is an offtopic tangent and is to be stopped, again stating that if
> people wish to continue it via private email they should do so.  It is
only
> when people coninue a tangent/offtopic thread that they have been warned
about
> that will be cause for removal from the list.  This sort of policy seems
to
> work well, it gives people a little slack for what they post, it takes
care of
> getting rid of people who continually continue off topic threads, but it
> requires a lot of work on the part of the moderator(s), as they have to
read
> all the messages and keep up with everything before things get out of
hand.



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From mw-raves-return-15994-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 15:35:39 2001
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 at the dinner table of my enourmous dinig room in my
> enormous brick house with patio and 7 SUV garage.  im out.  aaron.

    Dude, your garage can only fit 7 SUVs? what do you do when you have
parties? Don't tell me you make your friends park on the street??!!! Don't
tell me they *gasp* carpool, do they???

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If you just signed up for the calander why are you even on this list?
There's a seperate list just to get the calander. And nowhere did i say
anything about moderation getting rid of the NRR topics. This might be a
rave community but there's nothing that states that NRR stuff can be posted
but you do have to draw a line somewhere. With posts from the so called
"Messiah" I think there is some David Koresh wannabe lists for him, and then
some of the things that you post that is just posted to cause shit. I think
there's plenty of politcal lists that you could join instead of bringing it
to mw-raves. Anyway most of mw-raves doesn't need to be moderated just a few
people. That's an alternative to kicking them off the list..

James

Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:53:20 -0500 (EST)
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Some quick opinions.  First off it was I who somehow pissed people off and
they wanted me banned.  In response to that, I must say whoever it was
that said some people/rave party attenders are not going to hold typical
raver beliefs was correct.  I didn't respond to any of the post about me
cause there was no reason too.  I originally signed up mainly to get the
calender which I usually save.  However of the 10% (possibly 20% due to
the last weeks responses) of the post I even OPEN and read, I am going to
respond to those in which I feel it necessary to fight for certain rights.
I say what I believe in and how I vote only to be told by some asshold
that I am somehow anti-everything and that I am a Republican.  However I
see no one, including myself yelling for his removal.  Second, moderation
will never work and certain types on here will think they can do no wrong.
Also, if we were to moderate, the simple rule of "It must be rave related"
sounds good, but at some point in time, someone is going to go on a
tangent.  IF they are no immediately kicked off, then anyone who follows
shouldn't be as well.  The problme is some would scream for my ass to be
booted while if someone else (a friend) went off on a tangent, they would
sit there and say nothing.  So in order to make this work, the moderator
would have to show NO favortism and be able to keep any message not rave
related from being posted.  ANother thing could be we all request
everything not rave related to contain "OT" in the subject line.
Personally I think some on this list want to read what I say.  WHy I will
never know.  Like I said, before the last week or so, I was only OPENING
15% or so of the messages.  


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i, for one, would like to see more messages about moderation policies and
fewer about raves and conspiracies.

maybe we could even change the name of the list to moderationpolicies-raves.

this is sorta turning in to a joke you have to explain and the other person
still doesn't get it.

-t

(this message has been trimmed for your benefit cuz you asked, and because
trimming keeps pubic hair outta yr teeth)

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(no reason this comment was left, only for context)
>the main reason i re-joined this list was for chaos...mad chaos...a little
>chaos goes a long way.


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for those who are in the know, there are many idiots
on this list that have proved to be nothing less than
waste of bandwidths, filter these obvious decievers...

j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com (Jon Gotti) - an obvious joke, since
the real jon gotti is in jail...his only presence on the list is to
suggest that raves have some sort of mob involvement and to
make outlandish false accusations on one's sexuality due to
a male inferiority complex and constant alchohol bins

michael@happy.hardcorps.org - tries hard, but his constant
racist remarks and tirades of complete bullshit have not only 
cost him his reputation within the scene but have made him
enough enemies to have his parties sabotaged or have less
expensive rival parties thrown the same night as his

stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com (pixie) - a gossip mongering
drama queen from hell...remember that bitch in high school
that everyone hated because she was the source of all the
rumors?!...well, guess where she ended up...her evil agenda
has included finding your place of employment and calling
with inane false accusations to get you fired...within the rave 
scene, she is public enemy number one!

wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu - remember that evil 
drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!...yup!!...self 
proclaimed "mw-raves mother"...if you met her, you would 
know how far from the truth this is...once in the while she'll
pop up proclaiming how old school she is and waste 
everyone's bandwidth...




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i'm hurt!  and i wasn't included because??!?!

i know, you just want free pee.

well, lemme tell ya mister, a man's gotta make a living.

-t

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for those who are in the know, there are many idiots
on this list that have proved to be nothing less than
waste of bandwidths, filter these obvious decievers...

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- remember that evil
drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!...yup!!...self
proclaimed "mw-raves mother"...if you met her, you would
know how far from the truth this is...once in the while she'll
pop up proclaiming how old school she is and waste
everyone's bandwidth...


and see...I always thought that personal attacks on list members were rules
for banning. Guess I was wrong

wondering what the current rules are
shawne
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> for those who are in the know, there are many idiots
> on this list that have proved to be nothing less than
> waste of bandwidths, filter these obvious decievers...
>
> j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com (Jon Gotti) - an obvious joke, since
> the real jon gotti is in jail...his only presence on the list is to
> suggest that raves have some sort of mob involvement and to
> make outlandish false accusations on one's sexuality due to
> a male inferiority complex and constant alchohol bins
>
> michael@happy.hardcorps.org - tries hard, but his constant
> racist remarks and tirades of complete bullshit have not only
> cost him his reputation within the scene but have made him
> enough enemies to have his parties sabotaged or have less
> expensive rival parties thrown the same night as his
>
> stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com (pixie) - a gossip mongering
> drama queen from hell...remember that bitch in high school
> that everyone hated because she was the source of all the
> rumors?!...well, guess where she ended up...her evil agenda
> has included finding your place of employment and calling
> with inane false accusations to get you fired...within the rave
> scene, she is public enemy number one!
>
> wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu - remember that evil
> drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!...yup!!...self
> proclaimed "mw-raves mother"...if you met her, you would
> know how far from the truth this is...once in the while she'll
> pop up proclaiming how old school she is and waste
> everyone's bandwidth...
>
>
>
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From mw-raves-return-16001-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 17:40:34 2001
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you shouldn't be so hard on yourself stevie. but if
you really feel, as you so obviously stated, that you
need to be filtered, well, consider it done.

pixie

> From: Son316east@aol.com 
> Subject: Re: [mw] Suggestions for the current state
> of MW-Raves
> 
> 
> for those who are in the know, there are many idiots
> on this list that have proved to be nothing less
> than
> waste of bandwidths, filter these obvious
> decievers...


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From mw-raves-return-16002-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 18:06:47 2001
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Subject: [mw] [LG] THIS SATURDAY IN ATLANTA

LG NEWSLETTER:

Sorry if you are recieving this twice, we are working out a few kinks in our mailer.

First off we would like to thank everyone who attended The doc Martin show this past weekend in Atlanta. Doc stepped up for an amazing 5 and ahalf hour set that was filled with all kinds of suprises.

Now coming up this weekend in Atlanta we have an amazing show with RICHIE HAWTIN and JOHN ACQUAVIVA at a BRAND NEW VENUE. Tickets are on sale at all the stores and online at www.massivetickets.com. Below is the full info.

Then coming up february 17th is CARL COX and HYBRID in ATLANTA @ THE TABERNACLE. Tickets are on sale for that already as well at all ticket master locations. Below is the full info on that as well.

The full info on the LA and Atlanta showings of JOHN DIGWEED will be posted through this e-mail this week.

-------------------------------
Liquid Groove
Saturday February 3rd 2001
Atlanta GA

Join us as we transform a huge new atlanta Location, for a rare appearance from 2 of the worlds finest djs/producers

RICHIE HAWTIN
(Decks, EFX and 909) -
(Plus 8 - M_nus - Platikman)
We are proud to present for the first time at LG, a man who has been globably producing cutting edge music for well over a decade. A special extended set from one of the true pioneers of our scene, the legendary


JOHN ACQUAVIVA
(Definitive Recordings)
Originating from Canada, Johns been djing around the globe since 1980. In 1989 he co-founded the infamous plus 8 records with richie hawtin. Join us as John enlightens our minds with his unique sound.

with additional support from

JEFF JOSEPH
(atlanta)

INFORMATION:
18 and up welcome with ID
doors open at 10:00 pm
MASSIVE SOUNDSYSTEM Intelligent lighting

TICKETS: $20 In advance $22 on the door

TICKET OUTLETS:
Buy tickets only from these stores ($1 surcharge at some locations)
Satellite 404-880-9746
Rewind 404-827-9463
Candy (Athens, GA) 706-549-0191
Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
Alices White Rabbit: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-918-0961
Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
Manifest: (Greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
Smoke: (Gainesville, FL) - 352-379-7670
Vinyl Fever (Tallahassee, FL) --850-580-3480

Online tickets can be purchased at www.massivetickets.com

VENUE:
DEKALB-ATLANTA CENTER
This is a brand new state of the art venue. It consists of one massive room with huge ceilings, fully soundproofed, and the perfect venue for this event.

DIRECTIONS:

>From the North: Go 85 south and get off at the Clairmont Rd Exit. At the first light (Clairmont rd) go right. Go approx 1 mile to Dresden. Make a right on Dresden, venue is 100 feet on right (big blue building)

>From the South: Go 85 North and get off at the Clairmont rd exit. At the first light (clairmont rd) go left. Go approx 1 mile to Dresden. Make a right on Dresden, venue is 100 feet on right (big blue building)

>From Tennesse area: Go 75 south towards atlanta. Go I-285 east. Then go I-85 south and then follow the directions from the north.

>From the West: Go 20 East into downtown atlanta. Go I-75/85 north. When 75 and 85 split head i-85 North and then follow the directions from the south.

>From the East: Go I-20 West into downtown atlanta. Go I75/85 north. When 75 and 85 split head I-85 North and then follow the directions from the south 

-------------------------------------

Liquified
Saturday February 17th 2001
Atlanta GA
'The Tabernacle' 

Join us for a unique celebration at one of the most impressive venues in the country

Featuring a special interactive DJ set with live keyboards and synth from...

HYBRID
(distinctive records, UK)
Hybrid, are a Swansea-based collective with designs on the future of music. They have become sought-after remixers, putting their production skills to use on tracks for artists as varied as Jazzy Jeff, Carl Cox and Alanis Morissette. Their debut album, Wide Angle, which has been over a year in the making - was born of Hybrid's frustrationwith the narrow horizons of British dance music; They wanted to make the dance form more melodic, more imaginative, bigger and deeper than it had ever been before. They have been featured on the Northern Exposure series as well as the GU series, get ready as they drop their hard hitting progressive breaks sound on Atlanta.


A man who needs no introduction, but we'll give him one anyway... one of the original pioneers, who continues to educate the masses, breaking musical boundaries and uniting people across the world for over a decade....

CARL COX
(www.djcarlcox.com, UK)

together with

KAZELL
(liquified, global grooves, LA)


Doors open at 9:00 pm - 3:00 AM
** THERE WILL BE AN OFFICIAL AFTER-HOURS EVENT ANNOUNCED ON THE NIGHT WITH HYBRID DJING
18 and over welcome with ID

Due to venue polices tickets will only be available through Tabernacle box office or ticketmaster.

Tickets are $25 + $1 booking fee at tabernacle box office 404-659-9022. Tabernacle Box office hours are 10:00 am - 5:00 pm monday through friday.

Tickets are also Available at all Ticketmaster locations (venues policy) but service charges are higher.

TICKETS GO ON SALE SATURDAY JANUARY 27TH 2001


The Tabernacle
Centennial Olympic Park
152 LUCKIE STREET
ATLANTA, GEORGIA 30303
WWW.TABERNACLEMUSIC.COM
404-659-9022


>From North of Atlanta:
Take 75/85 Southbound to Exit 99/Williams St.
Follow Williams St. to the end, take right on International
Take International to Techwood, take left
Tabernacle one block up on left.

>From South of Atlanta:
Take 75/85 Northbound to International Blvd. Exit
Follow International Blvd to the very end
Left on Techwood, Tabernacle one block up on left

>From East or West of Atlanta:
Take Interstate 20 toward Downtown Atlanta
Head North on 75/85 from Interstate 20
Take International Blvd Exit, follow International to very end
Left on Techwood, Tabernacle one block up on left

24hour info 404-257-2515 or www.liquified.com



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From mw-raves-return-16003-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 19:09:21 2001
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here's an article about stevie:

http://www.ohio.com/bj/news/ohio/docs/013315.htm

note that it's at ohio.com - it's LEGIT!

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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 3:57 AM
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> The problem is people wanted me banned due to my polticial beliefs.  Some
> smart ass kept saying I was an anti-everything Republican even after I
> publically made my views clear.  When he stated that thing about
> conspiracy gun nut I figured it was time to just dig in and play along.
>


Nope... It seems youve got it wrong. Nobody wanted you banned because of
your beliefs. The people that requested this were only doing it because you
were being a complete tool.  Which, granted, a good amount of us on here
resemble at times too, but never to the extent of your toolness. And at
least they sometimes have topic related posts. I personally have never read
anything that resembles an on topic post from you, and I challenge you to
make one. Id really love to hear about when the last time you went out to
any kind of electronic music related function/event was. Im willing to bet
you havent in a very long time.

So get it out of your head that the ban requests had anything to do with you
being "an anti-everything Republican". People only wanted you banned because
you were being nothing but a flame-baiting tool! And I think the quoted
comments from you above my reply further proove it.

derek.




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From mw-raves-return-16005-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 19:27:25 2001
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>and see...I always thought that personal attacks on list members were rules
>for banning. Guess I was wrong
>


Would there be an exception for personal attacks against stevie (I'm not
innocent of this myself... but with out said exemption we would have to ban
85% of the people who post on a regular basis).

Chad mentioned having two lists... an evil twin... Personally I hated the
idea at first but...

If we recognize the inherent evil of this list, raves and teh midwest and
acknowledge that this list *IS* the evil twin.  Its ok.  we can start a
second list (the good twin) Mw-raves-on-topic (or something equally garish)
moderate that list as much as you want, hell individually approve each
message (the volume is bound to be so miniscule this should be an easy
feat).  Put it in the faq for mw-raves...



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> So get it out of your head that the ban requests had
> anything to do with you
> being "an anti-everything Republican". 

yeah, otherwise we'd have to ban shawne. well, i don't
think he's anti-everything, but he is republican.

> People only
> wanted you banned because
> you were being nothing but a flame-baiting tool! 

ooh, maybe we still have to ban shawne.

oh wait, i thought that said "flaming tool."

nm
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From mw-raves-return-16007-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 19:36:26 2001
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>But I think there's a deeper benefit to it - you actually
>have to *THINK* before you post something.  it'd cut out a lot of
>pointless one-liners without imposing a no-one-liner rule.

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From mw-raves-return-16008-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 19:41:52 2001
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what list?

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:

> >But I think there's a deeper benefit to it - you actually
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> >pointless one-liners without imposing a no-one-liner rule.
> 
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> Would there be an exception for personal attacks
> against stevie (I'm not
> innocent of this myself... but with out said
> exemption we would have to ban
> 85% of the people who post on a regular basis).

i think had stevie been banned in the beginning for
personal attacks, we wouldn't have this problem.
unfortunately, he wasn't banned, and was in fact
encouraged to continue to post by being referred to as
"good for the list." so be it. if stevie is allowed to
post personal attacks, etc, there's no reason why the
rest of us shouldn't be allowed to post right back to
him. granted, some may see this as detrimental to
working toward a solution, and i know that i'm not
worried/concerned anymore about the things that he
posts, though i am still and will always be looking
for legal ways to put walls between us. sorry, but
i've seen way too many made-for-tv-movies about
psychos who really do think that they are the messiah
and feel it is their personal mission to break into
innocent peoples homes and brutally murder them "in
the name of God." (or in this case, the name of
Frankie Bones, i guess). as much shit as he's spewed
here and on other lists, no, i wouldn't put it past
him. he's nuts, he's angry, he thinks he's been denied
his rightful glory, he has an agenda, and he's
persistent. you may think i'm being ridiculous, but
you aren't the one getting these private emails, so
that's pretty darn easy for you to think. back to the
subject, though. i'll stop replying to stevie 100%
when he's either playing nice, or he's no longer on
this list. until then, any policy that removes people
who "attack" stevie, or defend themselves, but doesn't
remove him is completely and utterly
counterproductive.

i know this wasn't directed at me personally, but
since i do reply to his crap on a semi-regular basis,
i thought i'd respond.

but hey, what the hell does my opinion matter.
zilch.
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> That's cool man.

you are a cop, fershure.


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At 03:26 PM 2001-01-31, Tad wrote:

>Chad mentioned having two lists... an evil twin... Personally I hated the
>idea at first but...
>
>If we recognize the inherent evil of this list, raves and teh midwest and
>acknowledge that this list *IS* the evil twin.  Its ok.  we can start a
>second list (the good twin) Mw-raves-on-topic (or something equally garish)
>moderate that list as much as you want, hell individually approve each
>message (the volume is bound to be so miniscule this should be an easy
>feat).  Put it in the faq for mw-raves...

err..... why not just make the calendar list post-able by subscribers for 
the mw-party-discussion-calendar-ravey list?  It seems like it's most of 
the way there...

-j

hmmm, the $300M easypick lotto ticket i got... numbers are:

05 08 16 36 40   -   03

winning numbers:

05 17 22 39 40   -   30

dunno why i typed that.


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Alright here are the timeslots for the Liquid Groove Richie Hawtin event
this weekend in atlanta.....

10-12 - Jeff Joseph

12-close Richie Hawtin and John Acquaviva

John will be playing first then Richie Will take over and play till close (6
or 7).

Tickets are still on sale everywhere and online at www.massivetickets.com

Peace
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>and brutally murder them "in
>the name of God." (or in this case, the name of
>Frankie Bones, i guess).

he'd probably lean more towards the name of scott forbush.  ;P

>  as much shit as he's spewed
>here and on other lists, no, i wouldn't put it past
>him. he's nuts, he's angry, he thinks he's been denied
>his rightful glory, he has an agenda, and he's
>persistent.

bah, he's a pussy.  people who talk a lot of shit on the net tend to be 
pussies in real life.  please don't ask me why i know this to be true.

mk
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From mw-raves-return-16014-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 20:26:04 2001
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> bah, he's a pussy.  people who talk a lot of shit on
> the net tend to be 
> pussies in real life.  please don't ask me why i
> know this to be true.

i agree wholeheartedly. i just don't want to be that
dumb bitch with the bad haircut that should have known
better than to think nothing of the perverted net nerd
who keeps sending her e-mails telling her what he's
gonna do to her.

i mean, c'mon, my hair has ALWAYS looked good.
pixie


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From mw-raves-return-16015-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 21:29:51 2001
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They hated my political beliefs.  Due to my opinions, they got pissed and
wanted me banned.  After being called a nut, etc. I played along.  The
ONLY damn post I saw was to ban my ass and no one else who was 'egging' me
on I guess you could say.  There were at least 2 people in our bitchfest
and NO ONE said anything about banning them.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <rvkeller@iupui.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 3:57 AM
> Subject: RE: [mw] Suggestions for the current state of MW-Raves
> 
> 
> > The problem is people wanted me banned due to my polticial beliefs.  Some
> > smart ass kept saying I was an anti-everything Republican even after I
> > publically made my views clear.  When he stated that thing about
> > conspiracy gun nut I figured it was time to just dig in and play along.
> >
> 
> 
> Nope... It seems youve got it wrong. Nobody wanted you banned because of
> your beliefs. The people that requested this were only doing it because you
> were being a complete tool.  Which, granted, a good amount of us on here
> resemble at times too, but never to the extent of your toolness. And at
> least they sometimes have topic related posts. I personally have never read
> anything that resembles an on topic post from you, and I challenge you to
> make one. Id really love to hear about when the last time you went out to
> any kind of electronic music related function/event was. Im willing to bet
> you havent in a very long time.
> 
> So get it out of your head that the ban requests had anything to do with you
> being "an anti-everything Republican". People only wanted you banned because
> you were being nothing but a flame-baiting tool! And I think the quoted
> comments from you above my reply further proove it.
> 
> derek.
> 
> 
> 
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	f raving scene mailing lists and PLUR stuff

what's the address to subscribe to the list where the people are fun and
send one liners and zingers back and forth.

somehow i got on this other list.  its not very ravey, not even the weird
kind of raving that i do (i dare 20/20 or dateline to follow me around @ a
party, heh, actually THAT SOUNDS KINDA FUN!).

-t

ps - to brighten yr day, here's some pr0n.
http://guyswithglowsticks.com/?ck=7RYD10ONID BOO YA!

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They hated my political beliefs.  Due to my opinions, they got pissed and
wanted me banned.  After being called a nut, etc. I played along.  The
ONLY damn post I saw was to ban my ass and no one else who was 'egging' me
on I guess you could say.  There were at least 2 people in our bitchfest
and NO ONE said anything about banning them.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:
<some other stuff>

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 stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com writes:

<< but hey, what the hell does my opinion matter.
 zilch.
 pixie
  >>

exactly...you've been called out bitch!

private e-mails?...more lies!...why would i send you private
e-mails when i hate you for helping destroy my career?!...
i make sure to post everything publicly so everyone knows
just how truly evil you are...

now all the true heads know who to truly destroy!!

your evil, deceptions, and lies are beyond description and
everyone knows the truth!!

back to hell you go, bitch!!

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> somehow i got on this other list.  its not very ravey, not even the weird
> kind of raving that i do (i dare 20/20 or dateline to follow me around @ a
> party, heh, actually THAT SOUNDS KINDA FUN!).

whenever i see those 20/20 programs i wonder why they never talk to anyone
resembling the people i hang out with at parties: sober, dancing our asses
off, commenting on the music and making fun of stupid fucked up people. oh
yeah, then they'd have nothing to sensationalize.

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i didn't know chartreuse was a color that occurs in
nature.

fun with snot,
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> i didn't know chartreuse was a color that occurs in
> nature.

chartreuse is also an unusual liquor brewed by french monks containing 120
mystery herbs. some of them i swear are opiates. a good time if you're
willing to drop 50 bucks on a fifth of alcohol ;)

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i dunno, when i think of "brothers in metal", i'm pretty sure there's some
sensationalism there somehow...  do you think it would drive people to
raves, or away from them?  maybe we're fighting the wrong battle...

-t

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> somehow i got on this other list.  its not very ravey, not even the weird
> kind of raving that i do (i dare 20/20 or dateline to follow me around @ a
> party, heh, actually THAT SOUNDS KINDA FUN!).

whenever i see those 20/20 programs i wonder why they never talk to anyone
resembling the people i hang out with at parties: sober, dancing our asses
off, commenting on the music and making fun of stupid fucked up people. oh
yeah, then they'd have nothing to sensationalize.

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>now all the true heads know who to truly destroy!!

yep.

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From mw-raves-return-16023-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 22:01:08 2001
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> i dunno, when i think of "brothers in metal", i'm pretty sure there's some
> sensationalism there somehow...  do you think it would drive people to
> raves, or away from them?  maybe we're fighting the wrong battle...

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From mw-raves-return-16024-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 22:05:08 2001
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:49:32 -0500 (EST), j3s wrote:

>
>> i didn't know chartreuse was a color that occurs in
>> nature.
>
>chartreuse is also an unusual liquor brewed by french monks containing 120
>mystery herbs. some of them i swear are opiates. a good time if you're
>willing to drop 50 bucks on a fifth of alcohol ;)


Yes...a strange and potent liquor.
Ask Fishead about that one...

	- Joe


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From mw-raves-return-16025-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 22:10:04 2001
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thanks shawne... =) but he's 30 and acts like he's 13. i deal with enough
of his kind of behavior daily... the best is just to ignore it, because
one can only hope that one day they grow-up. =) besides, if one looks into
the mw-raves archives, they will find that stevie wasn't preaching the
same message about me a few years ago...

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, shawne wrote:

> - remember that evil
> drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!...yup!!...self
> proclaimed "mw-raves mother"...if you met her, you would
> know how far from the truth this is...once in the while she'll
> pop up proclaiming how old school she is and waste
> everyone's bandwidth...
>
>
> and see...I always thought that personal attacks on list members were rules
> for banning. Guess I was wrong
>
> wondering what the current rules are
> shawne

> > wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu - remember that evil
> > drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!...yup!!...self
> > proclaimed "mw-raves mother"...if you met her, you would
> > know how far from the truth this is...once in the while she'll
> > pop up proclaiming how old school she is and waste
> > everyone's bandwidth...

-- 
-Becky =)

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- remember that evil
drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!


hey pixie! did you get your dress yet??? I wanted to ask Marc but I know
he doesn't like to dance. what do you think? should I? wanna share a
limosine? I like the big huge black lincoln navi's, they're rockin... i
wonder if i can get steviet to buy us beer. i wanna get sooo drunk! btw,
did you see amanda today? all i can say is OH MY GAWD! isn't she a bitch?
her friend laura is too. damn! remind me never to get on their bad side. i
remeber one time when amanda wanted to fight lauryn in middle school, but
they didn't after all. that was SO funny. OMG! okay, i gotta go,
mr.sponholz is looking at me. i don't wanna get into trouble and end up
with a DT after school. that would totally suck and I'd have to miss play
practice. btw, are you going to go to that "rave" thingy saturday night
that michael told us about? he, chris, tony, micah and some other hotties
are gonna be there... we should go... alright, i really need ta go now.
mr. sponholz is walking this way.

wbs! bff! STIAMPBFH! STITD!

love la like a sistah,

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-Becky =)

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> hey pixie! did you get your dress yet??? 

omg i still can't decide if i want pink tafetta or if
i'm just gonna go all out and get the black patent
leather betsy johnson. oh, by the way, did you hear
that tiffany is TOTALLY bulemic? yeah, i head her
sticking her finger down her throat in the bathroom
between 3rd and 4th period. it's SO true.

> I wanted to ask Marc but I know he doesn't like to 
> dance. what do you think? should I? wanna share a
> limosine? I like the big huge black lincoln navi's,
> they're rockin... 

oh you should TOTALLY ask him. it's the 90's girl! and
if we're gonna rent a car, lets get a hummer. i know
it isn't a limo, but we'll be SO HIP! don't worry,
i'll just put it on daddy's credit card.

> i wonder if i can get steviet to buy us beer. i
wanna
> get sooo drunk! 

don't even TALK to that loser. i've got a fake id, so
we'll be set, and if we need to, we can go get my
brother to buy us beer.

> btw,
> did you see amanda today? all i can say is OH MY
> GAWD! isn't she a bitch?
> her friend laura is too. damn! remind me never to
> get on their bad side. i
> remeber one time when amanda wanted to fight lauryn
> in middle school, but
> they didn't after all. that was SO funny. 

well amanda's definitely a bitch, but then, she even
tells everyone that. as for laura, well, she's a bitch
too, but she was lookin at my butt the other day, and
i know it's TOTALLY taboo, but i think i liked it!
maybe i'll "experiment" some on the big night after
all!

> OMG! okay,
> i gotta go,
> mr.sponholz is looking at me. i don't wanna get into
> trouble and end up
> with a DT after school. that would totally suck and
> I'd have to miss play
> practice. 

mr. sponholz is so OUT THERE! but then, aren't all
physics teachers? anyway, if you get a DT, don't
worry, cause i got one too for passing notes in math
class today. i know i know, but i couldn't help it!
jes TOTALLY has to know that tiffany is bulemic. this
is MAJOR IMPORTANT GOSSIP.

> btw, are you going to go to that "rave"
> thingy saturday night
> that michael told us about? he, chris, tony, micah
> and some other hotties
> are gonna be there... 

yeah i want to go. my mom and i saw this report on
them the other night, and she thinks they're evil, but
i got the feeling that that's where all the cool
people are now. we so TOTALLY have to go!

> wbs! bff! STIAMPBFH! STITD!
> 
> love la like a sistah,

LYLAS!!!
pixie


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Subject: [mw] For All the Chicago people..Yea for trance!

Everybody around Chi-town, have you heard the new format for 92.5&92.7?  No
more of the KISS shit.  Now they play some good dance/techno.  I'd say that
they play 50/50 good stuff to bad stuff.  Its not great but its better then
anything that we had before.  I didn't think that I'd ever get to hear
Sandstorm during the day.  That stuff is usually not played till midnight on
Sonic Boom on Q101, or B9sux.  But hey, now we got it.  It's a good day for
trance!


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On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 04:29:34PM -0500, rvkeller@iupui.edu wrote:
> They hated my political beliefs.  Due to my opinions, they got pissed and
> wanted me banned. 

I like how you pit yourself as the underdog in every situation.  Nobody
gives a rats ass about your political beliefs- honestly.  Nobody asked
to have you removed from the list because you disagree with their
ideals, they asked to have you removed because of very off topic posts
where you said things that they found very offensive- your post wherein
you indicated that rape victims are too "pussy" to fight back, for
example. 

<snipped>
	Well, with the amount of pussy's in the city, she is right.
	Most don't know what to do. They would rather lay there and be raped
	than fight back.
</snipped>

When dealing with subjects as sensitive as rape, and especially when
talking from a white male standpoint, it is usually best to tread
lightly.  This is not to say that you can not discuss it, but please
show at least some tact and restraint when doing so.

Nothing that you're saying is all that shocking or frankly even that
original, so I don't see why you think that everybody is out to get you.
The only reason that anybody has asked to have you removed is that you
have yet to post anything related to music but have instead chosen to
move every thread with which you interact to an argument about politics,
which is not the purpose of this list.

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> mr. sponholz is so OUT THERE! but then, aren't all
> physics teachers? anyway, if you get a DT, don't
> worry, cause i got one too for passing notes in math
> class today. i know i know, but i couldn't help it!
> jes TOTALLY has to know that tiffany is bulemic. this
> is MAJOR IMPORTANT GOSSIP.

d00d, i saw val in the hall last period who told me she found out during
lunch from doris who talked to bekka who heard from lauryn that tiffany
carries around mouthwash in her backpack. that news is like, so
lunchtime!!

ttyl

/j

[the above note was oragami folded into a tiny ninja star triangle and can
be refolded into a fortune teller]










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>It's a good day for
>trance!
>
>I know I'm gonna take shit for this, but what can I say?  I love the stuff.

It's okay.  Wanna go do a lot of E and go hug a speaker with me?  Maybe we can 
even cry a little?  :)

-Jen

When they were introduced, he made a witicism, hoping to be liked.  She laughed extremley hard, hoping to be liked.  Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead with the very same twist to their faces.
-David Foster Wallace

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> It's okay.  Wanna go do a lot of E and go hug a speaker with me?  Maybe we
can
> even cry a little?  :)

I can't think of anything that I'd rather do. Ahhh,  now they're playing
bullet in the gun.  :)

Ryan


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Subject: [mw] G'day !

G'day guys !
Im DJ Flagrant from Melbourne, Australia.  Im doing a two
week US Tour in the beginning of March.  A promoter told me
I should jump on the mw-raves site.. So I did and now im
here on the list talkin to you cats :-)  I just wanted to
say whats up to you all, and let you know about one of the
gigs I have going on in the Midwest.  On March 9th in
Nashville, TN, I will be performing alongside DJ Babyanne
and DJ Assault.  This performance will be a special one for
me as there will be a lot of shit going on !  I will be
beggining my set with a live drummer and bass player, then
I will play hip-hop by myself for a while, and THEN, I will
be rockin a four turntable drum & bass set with a native
Nashvillian DJ by the name of Dorian.  I will also have Chi
town MC onstage with me throughout my show.
So if you like mad scratchin' and beat juggling and shit,
then come to Nashville on the 9th.  You can go to this
address for more info:
http://www.urban-scene.com/

Oh yeah, I will have HEAPS of free giveaways from my sponsor
Isaiah Clothing.  I will be giving clothes away to the best
b-boys and also to the best all-round dancers.  So make sure
you got your dancin shoes on !

Peace and respect.

Flagrant

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From mw-raves-return-16034-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Jan 31 23:52:32 2001
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lmao, Wish I could get it 1.5 hrs. away from Chi :).  Mebbe I'll just have to move there............

Jen Anderson wrote:

> >It's a good day for
> >trance!
> >
> >I know I'm gonna take shit for this, but what can I say?  I love the stuff.
>
> It's okay.  Wanna go do a lot of E and go hug a speaker with me?  Maybe we can
> even cry a little?  :)
>
> -Jen
>
> When they were introduced, he made a witicism, hoping to be liked.  She laughed extremley hard, hoping to be liked.  Then each drove home alone, staring straight ahead with the very same twist to their faces.
> -David Foster Wallace
>
> One time, in High School, my friend beat up these two retarded kids for wearing the same shoes as him.
> -Life Sucks Die Magazine
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Yo, I got this guy's CD from Laura.  Kid is off the hook, scratchin like he 
got a VD.

Your welcome for the image.

meep

 - Soniq

"Hard house DJ's do it best, because we
bang the box and take requests!"

DJ Soniq Stylz, Dayton, OH
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Pix,

> omg i still can't decide if i want pink tafetta or if
> i'm just gonna go all out and get the black patent
> leather betsy johnson. oh, by the way, did you hear

I'd totally go for the patent leather! Personally, I think I'm gonna wear
something black and satiny... Btw, I asked Shawne to ask Marc if I asked
him to prom if he would go with me. So like hopefully I'll know by the end
of the day.


> that tiffany is TOTALLY bulemic? yeah, i head her
> sticking her finger down her throat in the bathroom
> between 3rd and 4th period. it's SO true.
>

OMG! She so isn't? really? damn, that sure explains a lot. she always eats
like a horse, but she's like to tiny, it pisses me off. i wonder if her bf
knows yet. he's cute... hrmmm...

> oh you should TOTALLY ask him. it's the 90's girl! and
> if we're gonna rent a car, lets get a hummer. i know
> it isn't a limo, but we'll be SO HIP! don't worry,
> i'll just put it on daddy's credit card.

that's cool. wouldn't it be even tighter if they made a hummer-limo? i
think the hummer idea is totally tight! and if we're not paying for it,
then even better!

> don't even TALK to that loser. i've got a fake id, so
> we'll be set, and if we need to, we can go get my
> brother to buy us beer.

the only reason i would talk to the school dork is to see if he could get
us beer. his dad does own a liquor store and all... but that's cool if
you've got a fake, or if your brother will get us shit. did you know
there's a drink called HOT SEX? hahaha OMG. Lauryn saw some once and
almost got her sister to buy it. that's the funniest name for booze i've
ever heard of.

> well amanda's definitely a bitch, but then, she even
> tells everyone that. as for laura, well, she's a bitch
> too, but she was lookin at my butt the other day, and
> i know it's TOTALLY taboo, but i think i liked it!
> maybe i'll "experiment" some on the big night after
> all!

hahaha. word, that rocks. i kinda knew that about laura. btw, she wrote me
this note and gave it to me in the hall. she's such a baby. if you "get it
on" you sould tell everyone in school that she's a lesbo. here's what she
wrote.

im not a bitch, youre a bitch. and im telling.
--laura
ps-stevie said hed totally get us beer. but pixie has to make out with him
in the limo.

can you believe it? making out with stevie in the limo!?! as IF! he's such
a loser. I can't believe he had the gall to run for student body
president. it's like he thinks it makes him GOD or some shit like that.
how gross. i'd totally tell everyone that laura's a lesbo if she's gonna
say shit like that about you...

> mr. sponholz is so OUT THERE! but then, aren't all
> physics teachers? anyway, if you get a DT, don't
> worry, cause i got one too for passing notes in math
> class today. i know i know, but i couldn't help it!
> jes TOTALLY has to know that tiffany is bulemic. this
> is MAJOR IMPORTANT GOSSIP.

jes prolly knows. somehow she like knows everything before it happens
practically. she should like work for the psychic (or is that psycho)
friends network. i ended up getting a DT, so I'll see you after school.
that sucks you got caught passing notes. Did Mr. Hellige bust your ass out
and read it on front of the class. i hope not, that's so embarassing! i
hate it when he does that. oh! hold on a sec. Mr. Lee is looking over my
shoulder to see if i'm keeping data for our chem lab. talk about being an
out there kinda teacher... he's totally wack. but he's cool too i guess.
he could be worse.

> yeah i want to go. my mom and i saw this report on
> them the other night, and she thinks they're evil, but
> i got the feeling that that's where all the cool
> people are now. we so TOTALLY have to go!

alright. i'm lucky and my mom and dad don't watch that shit on tv, so i
totally get to do whatever i want. i think you're right. hasn't val been
to one or two of those things? we should totally ask her and jen. you know
jen goes like every weekend, just look at her. she's like ALWAYS sleeping
in class because she rocks it so hard every weekend.

okay, gotta go. Mr. Lee whispered in my ear to put it away. at least he
doesn't take my notes. =) see you after school!

LYLAS!
-- 
-Becky =)

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In a message dated 1/31/01 9:35:59 AM Central Standard Time, murph@mr.net 
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<<     Dude, your garage can only fit 7 SUVs? what do you do when you have
 parties? Don't tell me you make your friends park on the street??!!! Don't
 tell me they *gasp* carpool, do they???
  >>
ha ha ha!!  okay, im throwin in the towEl.  you win, i losE.  no bad vibEz** 
rytE? (rytE 2 dans).  aaron.

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In a message dated 1/31/01 4:36:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
tony@sebion.com writes:

<< ps - to brighten yr day, here's some pr0n.
 http://guyswithglowsticks.com/?ck=7RYD10ONID BOO YA!
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Id do her... and im not gay.  =P

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 f raving sc...

-->In a message dated 1/31/01 4:36:17 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
-->tony@sebion.com writes:
-->
--><< ps - to brighten yr day, here's some pr0n.
--> http://guyswithglowsticks.com/?ck=7RYD10ONID BOO YA!
-->  >>

there's all sorts of lame jokes one could make here -- something about
"crabbing" the cross fader, a new meaing for "dj ho."  the pun of the
naked dj pics are virtually limitless.  however, for your sake, i'll
exhibit some self restraint and leave it at...

-->On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:
-->
-->Id do her... and im not gay.  =P

... i think you just qualified.

o.l.
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Subject: Re: [mw] Suggestions for the current state of MW-Raves

im hurt....im not on the mw-raves hit list :-(

-THE bitch iySyS-


>From: Son316east@aol.com
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Suggestions for the current state of MW-Raves
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:38:10 EST
>
>for those who are in the know, there are many idiots
>on this list that have proved to be nothing less than
>waste of bandwidths, filter these obvious decievers...
>
>j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com (Jon Gotti) - an obvious joke, since
>the real jon gotti is in jail...his only presence on the list is to
>suggest that raves have some sort of mob involvement and to
>make outlandish false accusations on one's sexuality due to
>a male inferiority complex and constant alchohol bins
>
>michael@happy.hardcorps.org - tries hard, but his constant
>racist remarks and tirades of complete bullshit have not only
>cost him his reputation within the scene but have made him
>enough enemies to have his parties sabotaged or have less
>expensive rival parties thrown the same night as his
>
>stolicranpixieyum@yahoo.com (pixie) - a gossip mongering
>drama queen from hell...remember that bitch in high school
>that everyone hated because she was the source of all the
>rumors?!...well, guess where she ended up...her evil agenda
>has included finding your place of employment and calling
>with inane false accusations to get you fired...within the rave
>scene, she is public enemy number one!
>
>wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu - remember that evil
>drama queens fat ugly friend in high school?!...yup!!...self
>proclaimed "mw-raves mother"...if you met her, you would
>know how far from the truth this is...once in the while she'll
>pop up proclaiming how old school she is and waste
>everyone's bandwidth...
>
>
>
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In a message dated 1/31/01 8:03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu writes:

<<  i think the hummer idea is totally tight! and if we're not paying for it,
 then even better! >>


Wow, that funny... I agree!!!

meep

 - Soniq

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bang the box and take requests!"

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>Everybody around Chi-town, have you heard the new format for 92.5&92.7?  No
>more of the KISS shit.

what's wrong with KISS ?!?!?!

trance sucks,
mking of the nighttime world

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do high school/jr high kids pass notes, still?  or do they all just have 
those cybikos, or aol IM communicators?!

looking at becky for the answer?,
mk

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From mw-raves-return-16045-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 01 02:00:49 2001
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man, all i'm saying is they'd better pull things around for february 
sweeps, cos tonite was quite a letdown...and they didn't play up that 
ending enough.  hmph.

wbmk

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they pass notes. they write notes in class. some of them even keep
"notebooks" with their friends, in which they write each other and pass
them back and forth, so as to look like they're taking notes. boy have i
gotten my hands on a few good notes. =)

they don't have the electronic toys out in class, in most schools, things
like pagers and cell phones, are against school rules. if they have it
out, it becomes mine until the end of the school year or mom and dad come
pick it up. there have actually been cases in other schools where kids
have been caught cheating with the wireless pagers, so they're not allowed
to have them...

my kids hate the fact that i'm as technologically adept as they are, and
in some cases more knowledgable than them. ;) especially when it comes to
internet translators and german...

On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, michael knight wrote:

> do high school/jr high kids pass notes, still?  or do they all just have
> those cybikos, or aol IM communicators?!
>
> looking at becky for the answer?,


-- 
-Becky =)

wangenra@entropy.muc.muohio.edu
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From mw-raves-return-16047-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 01 02:42:28 2001
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Subject: [mw] anyone go to synchronicity? I missed it

I wasn't able to attend this event, but I was wondering if everything went well. Anyone here go?

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I graduated high school last year (class of 2000).  It was always nice to=
 get
notes from my sweetheart as we passed each other in between classes, sinc=
e we
didn't have any classes together.  Of course, note passing still goes on
during classes, in the hallways, relayed between friends to get to the pe=
rson
the note's intended for, or dropped off in the locker of the person who t=
he
note's intended for.  In high school, teachers don't seem to care that mu=
ch
about passing notes.  If their students don't pay attention in class, the=
y
don't pass the test, it's as easy as that.  We still call each other, ema=
il
and Aol IM just add onto the amount of ways we can communicate.

-Jeff

  =

michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org> wrote:
> do high school/jr high kids pass notes, still?  or do they all just hav=
e =

> those cybikos, or aol IM communicators?!
> =

> looking at becky for the answer?,
> mk

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Subject: Re: [mw] G'day !

this guy is amazing. and hes my friend.
if you want to hear his cd, hit me privately and maybe ill hook you up....ESP if youre a promoter, i dont get to see nate dawg enough.
 much love nathan, and welcome to the list, watch your asshole.

laura


In a message dated Wed, 31 Jan 2001  6:34:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, flagrant@hip-hop.com.au writes:

<< G'day guys !
Im DJ Flagrant from Melbourne, Australia.  Im doing a two
week US Tour in the beginning of March.  A promoter told me
I should jump on the mw-raves site.. So I did and now im
here on the list talkin to you cats :-)  I just wanted to
say whats up to you all, and let you know about one of the
gigs I have going on in the Midwest.  On March 9th in
Nashville, TN, I will be performing alongside DJ Babyanne
and DJ Assault.  This performance will be a special one for
me as there will be a lot of shit going on !  I will be
beggining my set with a live drummer and bass player, then
I will play hip-hop by myself for a while, and THEN, I will
be rockin a four turntable drum & bass set with a native
Nashvillian DJ by the name of Dorian.  I will also have Chi
town MC onstage with me throughout my show.
So if you like mad scratchin' and beat juggling and shit,
then come to Nashville on the 9th.  You can go to this
address for more info:
http://www.urban-scene.com/

Oh yeah, I will have HEAPS of free giveaways from my sponsor
Isaiah Clothing.  I will be giving clothes away to the best
b-boys and also to the best all-round dancers.  So make sure
you got your dancin shoes on !

Peace and respect.

Flagrant

---
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http://www.hip-hop.com.au/
goin live in APRIL !

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you know what? fuck you big baby bitches. i experimented with pixie already. (oh yeah, can i ge tmy baby jesus butt plug back?). shes a BIG lesbo. yall are just jealous because you cant get it on with me.

sauce

<<hahaha. word, that rocks. i kinda knew that about laura. btw, she wrote me
this note and gave it to me in the hall. she's such a baby. if you "get it
on" you sould tell everyone in school that she's a lesbo. here's what she
wrote.

im not a bitch, youre a bitch. and im telling.
--laura
ps-stevie said hed totally get us beer. but pixie has to make out with him
in the limo.

can you believe it? making out with stevie in the limo!?! as IF! he's such
a loser. I can't believe he had the gall to run for student body
president. it's like he thinks it makes him GOD or some shit like that.
how gross. i'd totally tell everyone that laura's a lesbo if she's gonna
say shit like that about you...>>




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my sister is a jr in high school and she still writes notes, and leaves them all over the house and shit and my mom finds them and usually grounds her for what they say in them.
ashley is a retard.

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<<do high school/jr high kids pass notes, still?  or do they all just have 
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looking at becky for the answer?,
mk
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> ha ha ha!!  okay, im throwin in the towEl.  you win, i losE.  no bad
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> rytE? (rytE 2 dans).  aaron.

    Way to think of the bEttEr good of all, I'm surE your mothEr would bE
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too busy supporting shady motherfuckers back in columbus eh?

mk

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yeha it was awesome..greeeeat music all night. no deaths.od'z or shutdowns. 
some1s car got stolen

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too busy supporting shady motherfuckers back in columbus eh?

mk

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Coming this Spring from Unique Recordings and Dynamic Groove...

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ooooooo hehehe damn. gotcha


michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< too busy supporting shady motherfuckers back in columbus eh?
 
 mk
 
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nowadays everyone wants to be like me n mathew murph.murph/~murph.  and also, 
nowadays its the sound of the underground.  aaron.

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well, at least week joey and pacey do it......

OR WILL THEY?  FIND OUT ON AN ALL NEW EPISODE OF DAWSONS CREEK

"I'm rocking buffet tables and record labels!"
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> man, all i'm saying is they'd better pull things around for february 
> sweeps, cos tonite was quite a letdown...and they didn't play up that 
> ending enough.  hmph.
> 
> wbmk



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