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Dynamic Groove wrote:

> Speaking of LSD, the History Channel is airing
> "History's Mysteries: The History of LSD" tomorrow
> night (Tuesday).  I think it's on at 7pm CST, but if
> I'm mistaken, watch it at 7 pm anyway, I'm sure
> something good will be on, there always is.

Drat, now I actually have to watch TV.  Just in case I miss this (which I probably
will), I hope someone posts a writeup about it, since I'm really interested in knowing
whether they include at least brief biographies of Bart Huges and/or Michael
Holingshead, who impacted the acid culture in the 60s in several ways, most of which
ultimately had to do with trepanation.  I believe it was these two who were responsible
for encouraging people (including Tim Leary) to supplement their doses with Vitamin C
(this was before the word "anitoxidant" existed) and sugar--hence the sugarcube as an
ingestion medium and cultural element.

big up to the trepan massive,
Todd


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>
>under 18 = jail bait material!! = you can be put in
>jail for screwin a minor!!

where's the justice when you can be jailed for the physical manifestation 
of your love for someone who is not an "adult" in the eyes of the law, yet 
you can be a GAY CHINESE FUCKWIT and still roam free?

>in the future, please check yo self, before you
>wreck yo self...

>ice cube is gonna sue you for not properly crediting your source!  ahahahha!


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>
>
>have you even checked who's spinning at the new clubs in
>columbus lately michael?...boo & glenn just spun axis,
>onionz is spinnin red zone tonight, enigma's got dj amadeus
>& anthony acid from nyc comin up, and justin long's comin
>up @ liberty...and these are not "drek", "shwag", "bunk", or
>"booty"...

axis is the only club in columbus that is getting decent names, and even 
that is only once a week.  enigma, what the fuck i've never even heard of 
those people, plus you have to dress up there and that is wack.  onionz 
sucks and so does justin long, they are just crappy dj's man.  tho i'll 
prolly go check out kevin yost at red zone.  meanwhile, the rock shows here 
look all the more tempting.  can we organize a net.meet for the queensryche 
show?!?!?

>lol, i just took a piss test today, which means....ack, i gotta
>job!!...and of course it's doin something i completely despise
>& gettin paid 60 cents less an hour than my previous job,
>but aint that the american way, skimmin ya for all your
>worth!!!....cuz they know you have no choice but to take the
>job or continue starvin to death!!...


60 cents under minimum wage is ILLEGAL, stevie.  frankly i'm surprised that 
a well-respected institution such as long john silver's would try to pull 
that one over on you.  maybe you should take them on judge mathis, where 
minorities are free to piss and moan all they want.  it's courtroom 
hilarity's finest hour!

btw you DO have a choice, you could go on welfare like the rest of the 
ungrateful losers that take up space in this country.  no piss test then!  woo!


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Point #0
Stevie T you're gay.

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>
>no, id like for you to book Fumiya Tanaka so i can see his ass mix me a
>mindblowing set. but you are not capable of that, cuz you prolly dont even
>know who he is.

how common of a name is "tanaka" in japan?  could fumiya tanaka be related 
to masato tanaka?  would they ever play together?  i'd love to hear the 
"japanese jeff mills" play records whilst the "japanese mick foley" took on 
mike awesome "mullet" for the ECW world heavyweight strap.

booooyakashaaaa!!!



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>
>  *kicks you in the face and shoves that blow pop up your nose and those
>  glowsticks up yer arse*

heheh true story here, when all the glowsticks arrived for HARD DAZE, i 
took one of them, lit it and shoved it about halfway into my rectum, then i 
dropped trou to about my knees, covered me bum with my shirt and walked 
into my friend's living room.  i turned around and bent over, the plan was 
to shoot the glowstick at her from my arse.  but it didn't work.  all i was 
left with was a stinky glowstick and a moderately irritated anus.  hmph.


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In a message dated 00-02-01 00:29:45 EST, you write:

<< so yes...they make angry music. angry CRAP music. 
  >>



yes, and all the poor, ill-researched, politically immature reasons you just 
listed are an excellent way to pass judgement on their MUSIC!  i mean, hey, 
the drummer and bass player are so tite together, but that mexican guy "che" 
on that shirt thing was stupid, so the music is too.  and tom morello comes 
up with some damn creative and just plain rock you outta your socks guitar 
riffs with high energy, but since you think you know more than him about 
politics even though HE graduated from Harvard, his playing sucks.

> read the SPIN
>magazine interview they did in 1998 (?) (cover with them w/gas masks), tom
>morello is quoted saying somethhing to the effect of "we don't know much
>of anything about communism and socialism, we just think che looked cool". 
>

consider your source here?  spin mag is just as bad if not worse than eMpTVy! 
 and i'm sure that was a joke cause tom went to Harvard for real!

yeah this is a problem with music huh?  sometimes music and politics get 
confused like that.  you don't like a band's political stance, whatever, and 
that makes you not like their music.  but if you like their image, then you 
like their music more too.  its unfortunate that we have trouble respecting 
artists for their art, and that we have to let such minor, socially created 
reasons like politics shadow talent and expression.

rage against the machiene -  maybe when they first started the band back in 
the day (actually they started after college) it just sounded like an in your 
face, rock the place, kickin ass at a break-neck pace kinda name, you know?  
thats all, its just a name for a band, not some burden they carry that 
requires them to stand up for midwestern college kids and their parent's 
tuition money. (i too am a midwest college student who uses parent's tuition 
money)

 i grew up on rage, can you tell?

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--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
wrote:
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> >
> >under 18 = jail bait material!! = you can be put in
> >jail for screwin a minor!!

Uhm... Actually, that Statitory Rape <whatever> law
was taken out of the books two years ago in Ohio..
Believe me.. I know..
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> consider your source here?  spin mag is just as bad
> if not worse than eMpTVy! 


Rock on!!  Corporate television suckz~!*~!
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>Does anyone know what effect is used on a lot of Eiffel 65's music. It seems
>like a vocoder but I haven't been able to get a vocoder to do that modulation
>thing as well as them. Any help?

ahaha that video is so badass!  that guy in his little hat, figting all 
those aliens.  what the fuck.  scott brown did a happy hardcore rip of this 
tune.  it's badass.

da ba dee!



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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 Kcaj123@aol.com wrote:

> yes, and all the poor, ill-researched, politically immature reasons you just 
> listed are an excellent way to pass judgement on their MUSIC!  i mean, hey, 
> the drummer and bass player are so tite together, but that mexican guy "che" 
> on that shirt thing was stupid, so the music is too.  and tom morello comes 

i passed judgement on the band as a whole: music, politics, etc. it's
obvious i don't care for their music; i also think they either don't know
what their message is, or don't care. 

i'm i can accept you finding my reasons "poor" and if you think my
referencing SPIN was "poor research" so be it, but i don't know where
you're coming from with the "politically immature" bit. but this isn't
about me, so whatever.

> up with some damn creative and just plain rock you outta your socks guitar 
> riffs with high energy, but since you think you know more than him about 
> politics even though HE graduated from Harvard, his playing sucks.
> 

he could have been alongside che during the revolution, i care fuck all
about that.  i don't claim to know more about politics than anyone, i just
want people who ally themselves with various historical figures to knwo
what those figures are about.  his guitar wankery can go with the socks he
rocked me out of in my hamper.

> consider your source here?  spin mag is just as bad if not worse than eMpTVy! 
>  and i'm sure that was a joke cause tom went to Harvard for real!

SPIN is one of the reasons rage is so big. if they weren't such media
darlings, they'd be another faceless nameless band playing shite metal
music.  and no, it wasn't a joke. i wasn't claming SPIN as a source with
high merit, i'm just restating what a band member said in the interview.

> yeah this is a problem with music huh?  sometimes music and politics get 
> confused like that.  you don't like a band's political stance, whatever, and 
> that makes you not like their music.  but if you like their image, then you 

art and politics are inseperable in the post modern age of the arts. and i
can like groups or artists that have views i disagree with. but this isn't
about me, once again.

> like their music more too.  its unfortunate that we have trouble respecting 
> artists for their art, and that we have to let such minor, socially created 
> reasons like politics shadow talent and expression.
> 

"minor, socially created reasons like politics" are the reasons a great
deal of art is made in the first place. art for art's sake is a rare
occurrence these days.

> rage against the machiene -  maybe when they first started the band back in 
> the day (actually they started after college) it just sounded like an in your 
> face, rock the place, kickin ass at a break-neck pace kinda name, you know?  

as did "whitesnake" and "morbid angel". but the difference is that the 
two afforementioned groups never made asses of themselves in the realm of
politics.

rock on.

dylan

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ok!  after being relegated to the 6am timeslot at the party here on friday, 
i went home and slept a bit, and then brian kidwell and brian kidwell's 
girlfriend showed up and like, we got ready and shit and then we all 
trucked it up to chi-town.

the weather sucked, it made for a scary drive.  especially when brian 
kidwell's girlfriend tried to drive!!  all i have to say is "free fireworks 
with fillup".  no shit.

nice to see someone finally use the photon again.  i missed gruve and 
tronic.  hmph.  mike you gotta tell whomever was doing the patdowns on the 
girls, she had a GUT with a belly button piercing and tattoo, ugh i'm sorry 
but if you are FAT please don't draw extra attention to your tummy and then 
show it to all of us, i nearly puked.  anyway she was totally molesting the 
girls she was searching, dug up into the cup of my girlie's bra and 
confiscated what was obviously only for personal use.  hmm i guess they 
wanted to make everyone spend extra money on the house 
dealers.  dammit.  anyway, that ugly girl needs to be destroyed!

brisk/sy/storm were the reason i went.  honestly, i would have rather seen 
either of them (brisk or sy) by themself.  preferably brisk at this 
point.  they just seemed to hold each other back...truthfully tho, i think 
sy held brisk back a bit more.  even tho sy is one my favourite dj.  he 
just seemed to be lacking on saturday.  brisk played sailaway rmx (!) and 
it's fuckin awesome.  he didn't play cloudy daze rmx and i was sad about 
that :P  i took like a whole roll of film of these three.  oh and brian 
kidwell's girlfriend took a picture of me and brian kidwell with brisk and 
sy and storm so i hope that turns out good!  suitable for framing, 
innit!!!  heh.

jen sixtybus and crew were there.  she thought thee-o ate dick but i 
thought he was rather rocking, and i got to hear some of the originals that 
my HHC records rip off.  heh.  did lion actually play his olskool/ragga 
set?  i missed it if he did.  i met brit but i was kinda fucked up, he 
prolly thinks i'm a crackhead!!  heh my girl that went with me really 
wanted to beat that one girl from minneapolis' ass...good thing she didn't 
go i didn't want to get charged with contributing to the deliquency of a 
minor or some shit.  hahaha.

we stayed late to hear matt bandy.  he was pretty rockin' too.  i never met 
mike/gruve - sorry for that one mate!  nice party tho, quality music and 
production...not your fault that the kids in chicago kinda suck 
nowadays.  heh ;)

oh hey there was no running water and water was 3 bucks a bottle after $30 
admission and $150 worth of shit stolen from us at the door, hey that's 
kinda wack!  doh.

oh someone in the second room played a slo-breaks rmx of "sweet child o' 
mine" buy guns n fucking roses.  that was some good.  heh.  oh yeah people 
sell crack rocks in chicago now, that's pretty funny.  remember when the 
chicago scene was all about rich kids?  i saw one of those kids sat nite, 
from that rich suburban kid era.  heh but chicago is like everywhere else 
now i guess, all white trash at parties!!  dohhhhhh.

okay i think that was about all i wanted to say.  heh, probably.  should i 
be sleeping?

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 Point #0.1
 Stevie T's penis is small.

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> Point #0
> Stevie T you're gay.
> 
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  I just wanted to remind you while you're arguing with people that you're
basing your entire argument on a quote(which you sadly enough couldn't see
the humor in), and what some kids in your high
school said.  If you don't like their music fine, but don't try and act
like they're these clueless idiots jumping on political bandwagons.  They
said recently in an interview that they haven't really gotten along in
years, and if it wasn't for the politics they would have broken up years
ago.  You really don't have any idea what you're talking about.  Try
reading or watching a few more interviews and investigating their views a
bit more before you start trying to attack them from this angle.  Also,
"catchy pop"?  So you're grouping Rage's music with that of the Backstreet
Boys and Jennifer Lopez?  Tom Morello is one of the most respected
guitarists in the industry.  Rage defined the hard rock-rap sound and did
it right years before idiots like Kid Rock mutated it into the pop shit
that you here today.  Rage's albums have never even leaned towards the pop
genre and just because people like them doesn't make them pop.  It puts
them in a league with artists like Nirvana who made underground music
that happened to hit it big with pop fans.

 Kevin 


On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Dylan Bryne wrote:

> 
> rage against the machine, while supplying angst-filled catchy pop for the
> teenage set, is mostly crap. bold statement i know, but oh well- here's a
> few reasons why.
> 
> -they don't even know the politics they seem to espouse. read the SPIN
> magazine interview they did in 1998 (?) (cover with them w/gas masks), tom
> morello is quoted saying somethhing to the effect of "we don't know much
> of anything about communism and socialism, we just think che looked cool". 
> 
> -continuing on the politics bit... they seem to latch onto
> guerilla/terrorist/rebel movements simply for the shock value, never truly
> delving into the issue that surrond them. every time i've seen them
> comment on whatever conflict they support, it has been something along the
> lines of "yeah well we want everyone to know that this isn't right. we
> have to fight the power!" brilliant. a brief description of "the power",
> the resssistance, and the reason for the conflict if you would, mister de
> la rocha.  they're also on the "free tibet" bandwagon, the latest in the
> "i can't locate it on a map, but i sure do feel strongly about the vague
> picture of political situations that i've been
> given!" fads. http://www.antiwar.com/chu/c120399.html  will give you a
> *gasp* opposing view on the whole thing to consider.
> 
> -they are int he major label world. if they really wanted to "rage", they
> might take a cue from people like jello biafra. or anyone else with
> slightly more anti-system merit than Phil Collins.
> 
> -this is a personal one, but i remember asking everyone i saw wearing a
> rage "che" shirt at high school in 95 if they had any clue who the guy on
> the shirt was. answers ranged from identifying him as "the lead singer" to
> "that mexican guy".  again, rage has enlightened the masses.  
> 
> so yes...they make angry music. angry CRAP music. 
> 
> word is bond.
> dylan
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kindy kandy michael sed:

<<60 cents under minimum wage is ILLEGAL, stevie.  frankly i'm surprised that 
a well-respected institution such as long john silver's would try to pull 
that one over on you.  maybe you should take them on judge mathis, where 
minorities are free to piss and moan all they want.  it's courtroom 
hilarity's finest hour!>>

excuse me?...just because you were fired from
long john silver's for actually wearin that pirate's
outfit to parties becuz you were so proud to work 
there...doesn't mean, i had anything to do with you
or your previous place of employemnt...just because
i may have tossed some badly cooked fish chips
at your face when we all went to the restaurant to 
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michael mcpusty wrote:
<<where's the justice when you can be jailed for the physical manifestation 
of your love for someone who is not an "adult" in the eyes of the law, yet 
you can be a GAY CHINESE FUCKWIT and still roam free?>>

prolly the same justice that let's kandy ass jolly
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michael the jolly pirate done wrote:
<<heheh true story here, when all the glowsticks arrived for HARD DAZE, i 
took one of them, lit it and shoved it about halfway into my rectum, then i 
dropped trou to about my knees, covered me bum with my shirt and walked 
into my friend's living room.  i turned around and bent over, the plan was 
to shoot the glowstick at her from my arse.  but it didn't work.  all i was 
left with was a stinky glowstick and a moderately irritated anus.  hmph.>>

omigawd!!!...not only are you *really* a fudge packer,
but you're a *neon fudge packer*!!!...eeeew!!!

i can't believe you believe you beat out gdamiani for
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krobbins sed:
<< Point #0.1
 Stevie T's penis is small.>>

that's because you're used to sucking donkey
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fuck rage.

tool rules.


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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jonathan Voigt wrote:
> fuck rage.
> tool rules.

Word.  :P

I'm trying to stay out of this Rage argument because I know it'd be
another one of those things where I send off a bunch of 10 page e-mails
that nobody cares about...  Hopefully I can continue to exercise
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--- Speaking loudly to the deaf that is mw-raves,
Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 1/31/0 8:51:07 PM, insanityfr
> wrote:
> 
> <<govenment and we all act like it's the
> government's
> fault that things are so screwed up...but's it's not
> their fault, it's your's (as in the citizens of the
> US).  WE elect our leaders.  It's a democracy and if
> you choose not to participate, then you have no
> right
> the bitch about it.
> 
> It's sad that our leaders are choosen by the less
> than
> 40% who actually vote (and I'd bet that less than
> 10%
> of those are impartially informed voters).  YOU
> choose
> the government and, therefore, YOU are responsible
> for
> it's shortcommings.>>
> 
> well, you certainly live up to yur e-mail name at
> times,
> cuz you certainly are the crazy willie!!

hehe...I try...

> are you completely insane or did you like completely
> miss
> that whole thread that i started about how biased
> our
> government is because basically your choices are: a
> rich
> white guy or another rich white guy?...and when
> you're a
> rich white guy, do you really think you'll make
> choices
> that will benefit poor minorities?...hell
> no!!!...and the very
> sad part is that a poor minority will never be able
> to voice
> his opinions because to run president, you have to
> be filthy
> rich...and since the system is set up for the
> preservation
> of white power, that can never be!!!

If you had read the rest of my post (I don't really
blame you if you didn't...it did kind of ramble on),
you'd know my feelings on this.  I have no pity for
people who choose not to participate in the process. 
There would be more minorities in office if either a)
there were more guilt among white voters or b) more
minorities actually voted!  It's your opinions (which
are held by most minorities) that are stopping the
minorities from taking control of the government.  Why
should I bother choosing between "white rich guy A"
and "white rich guy B," you ask?

Well, while A might support welfare, affirmative
action, and giving more money to public schools, B
might want to end welfare, disempower affirmative
action, and introduce a national voucher system for
schools.  Believe it or not most candidates, Pat
Buchanan excluded, don't use race as a platform.  And
some might actually be colorblind (gasp!).  I know
it's unbelievable that a white guy might not be
racist, but it is possible...and politically popular.

OR you could run as an independent candidate...true,
it takes money to do this but there are two ways to
aquire this money.  First, the government will give
you money to spend on your campaign that matches the
amount given for the re-election of incumbents
(currently, a couple million for presidential
candidates).  Second, you fund raise from your base of
supporters.

Even though an independent will probably never hold
the office of the president, he/she does pose a threat
to one of the two big parties.  Look at what Perot did
to the Republicans during the '92 election.  By taking
votes away from Bush, he gave Clinton the election. 
Now when a popular independant runs, the people who
stand to lose votes to him/her will change parts of
their own platforms to emulate their independent
opponent's.

> bottom line, the political system is a complete
> farce based
> on white lies to get as many votes as possibleto
replace ...but
> once in
> office, they hardly ever keep their promises...even
> the ones
> who try to do the right thing are 'swayed' to make
> the decision
> that will benefit the rich corporate powers, because
> they
> have the money to fund organizations that can
> publicly ruin
> any individual that does not carry out all their
> wishes!!

First let me say that any human can be corrupted, not
just whites.  Secondly, the fact that politicians will
sometimes be hypocritical once in office is because
there's no accountability when most of the public is
(seemingly) apathetic.  If, when a politician didn't
live up to his/her promises, we voted him/her out it
would send a message to other politicians reminding
them that they are PUBLIC SERVANTS.  The fact that
Clinton wasn't impeached for lying because the public
was on his side just encourages him to lie again and
again.  It tells other politicians that it's okay to
lie.

With power comes responsibility and, unfortunately,
when given the power to choose our own leaders we
often make uneducated choices or make no choice at
all.

> as long as we worship money, the one with the most
> money
> will always reign supreme and he shall be the beast.

You use capitalism and whitey as a scapegoat for bad
government, but it's you and people like you (as in
the non-voting, apathetic people) who will be the
downfall of the country.  You spout blank rhetoric
trying to use race to enrage those who might be as
insecure as yourself.  Ultimately you only make things
worse by whining if you're not willing to do anything
about the problem.

The only way to win is to play...and play hard!

You can quote me on that.
--Will

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 01 16:48:12 2000
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I agree.  The electorial college, while once necessary
because of the impossibility of counting all the votes
by hand, should be abolished.  In this age of
technology we should take one more step toward a true
democracy.

--Will

--- Biba Gypsychilde <sequin_prism@hotmail.com> wrote:
> u know i do vote. I always do but the idea of a
> thing called the electoral 
> college kinda annoys me when I'm wasting my life in
> the pollers line at the 
> library so's I can make a difference :)
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--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> instead i blame the system, a system whose fate is
> obvious...atleast
> to me...in a cash based society...the greediest,
> shadiest, most evil mother
> fu'ker will always win in the end...and he shall be
> the beast...and every man 
> will have to join the beast or starve as long as
> money reigns supreme...

This would probably be true if we were a totally
capitalist country, but the politics of our government
are anything but lassie fair (did I spell that
right?).  We have the FTC (Federal Trade Commission),
the DOC (Department of Commerce), the Federal Bank,
etc. always looking over the shoulder of big (and
small) business to make sure they're not mistreating
the consumer (to horribly, anyways).  This is both a
good and a bad thing (depending on whether you like
big or small government.  We practice a restrained
capitalism that manipulates interest rates to control
the stock market and doesn't let one company get so
big as to become a monopoly.

--Will

> 
> the key out?...what i've been pushin since day
> one...love is free...
> 
> choose your path...


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Eh, De La Rocha, even though he may not be the freedom
fighter that you all want his ass to be, he still is a
pretty fucking good lead singer, and not bad in the
hip-hop arena eighther.
And where else are you gonna get a Che Gevera T-Shirt
at anyway (yes, I do know who Che is, and he ain't
even Mexican)

--- Dylan Bryne <bryn0017@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
> 
> rage against the machine, while supplying
> angst-filled catchy pop for the
> teenage set, is mostly crap. bold statement i know,
> but oh well- here's a
> few reasons why.
> 
> -they don't even know the politics they seem to
> espouse. read the SPIN
> magazine interview they did in 1998 (?) (cover with
> them w/gas masks), tom
> morello is quoted saying somethhing to the effect of
> "we don't know much
> of anything about communism and socialism, we just
> think che looked cool". 
> 
> -continuing on the politics bit... they seem to
> latch onto
> guerilla/terrorist/rebel movements simply for the
> shock value, never truly
> delving into the issue that surrond them. every time
> i've seen them
> comment on whatever conflict they support, it has
> been something along the
> lines of "yeah well we want everyone to know that
> this isn't right. we
> have to fight the power!" brilliant. a brief
> description of "the power",
> the resssistance, and the reason for the conflict if
> you would, mister de
> la rocha.  they're also on the "free tibet"
> bandwagon, the latest in the
> "i can't locate it on a map, but i sure do feel
> strongly about the vague
> picture of political situations that i've been
> given!" fads.
> http://www.antiwar.com/chu/c120399.html  will give
> you a
> *gasp* opposing view on the whole thing to consider.
> 
> -they are int he major label world. if they really
> wanted to "rage", they
> might take a cue from people like jello biafra. or
> anyone else with
> slightly more anti-system merit than Phil Collins.
> 
> -this is a personal one, but i remember asking
> everyone i saw wearing a
> rage "che" shirt at high school in 95 if they had
> any clue who the guy on
> the shirt was. answers ranged from identifying him
> as "the lead singer" to
> "that mexican guy".  again, rage has enlightened the
> masses.  
> 
> so yes...they make angry music. angry CRAP music. 
> 
> word is bond.
> dylan
> 
> _________________
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In a message dated 2/1/00 9:34:23 AM !!!First Boot!!!, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< >Does anyone know what effect is used on a lot of Eiffel 65's music. It 
seems
 >like a vocoder but I haven't been able to get a vocoder to do that 
modulation
 >thing as well as them. Any help? >>

That song is played 24/7 on WNCI now,Don't Ask me Why I know...My Cd Player 
was broke for a month and I wuz forced to listen to the Radio to entertain 
myself.
This has nothing to do with that question,I just realized that.
Teehee
-Nicci
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Look what the hell I started..
*Keepz Rock bandz to self* I won't bring up another one for you to point out 
and critize. ;(
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, William Adams wrote:

>We practice a restrained  capitalism that manipulates interest rates to
>control the stock market and doesn't let one company get so big as to
>become a monopoly.

Wow, this is some great bullshit.  Ever hear of Microsoft?I heard they're
sort of big.  If they get broken up, do you really think they'll be so
disempowered?  Also, you have to look at the recent mergers going on.  AOL
buying out Time-Warner (the fact that it wasn't Time-Warner buying out AOL
speaks volumes, but that's another story), Disney and CBS, all the banks
merging, it goes on and on...this just goes to show that just because an
entity isn't labeled "a monopoly" doesn't mean it doesn't have as much
power as one.  Internet retailers too, have the potential to become a much
bigger monster than it already is.  They're great for consumers, but
they're killing mom-and-pop stores.  I'm even a great victim of this (for
now).  I own a home-based car stereo retail business.  The only people I
can cater to are the ones that can't find the equipment on the
internet.  I have a really tough time matching their prices, and at times
I can't.  This is not hurting me as much as regular retail stores, but
only because I barely have any capital to lose.  I thought that small
businesses are the essence of this country.  I was really proud of myself
because I got this thing up and going at age 19 late last year.  But the
fact is until I can get all my products straight from the manufacturer,
which often requires a buy-in of about $10000, my profit margins are
slim.  How are small retail businesses supposed to grow now?  If there
were no internet retailers, I think I'd be able to pay for my tuition
myself by now!  Tell me, what is the American way?
Sorry to all about my rambling,
Jerry


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I agree whole hartedly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--- William Adams <insanityfr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "UNLEASH THE BEAST!!!"  --Milwaukee's Best
> 
> It's pretty funny that while Miller, Anheiser Bush,
> et
> all are trying to encourage responsible drinking (or
> at least pretend to encourage it) Milwaukee's Best
> tells you to drink to you lose all your inhibitions.
> 
> Go ahead, unleash the beast!  Because there's
> nothing
> more funny (and nothing more sad) than some loud
> obnoxious drunk trying to pick up chicks or pick a
> fight (usually, these two are related) at a party.
> 
> Unleash the beast!  'Cause drinking is sooper kewl!
> 
> --Will
> 
> On a side thought: Isn't Milwaukee's Best made by
> one
> of the big breweries?  It's kinda like Phillip
> Morris
> having making cigarettes and running anti-tobacco
> ads...
> 
> --- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > In a message dated 1/30/0 7:47:53 PM, te_one
> wrote:
> > 
> > <<       It's disappointing how easy it is to
> profit
> > off of people's
> > insecurities, and how proud this makes you.
> > Regardless, this is a <at
> > least somewhat> rave-related mailing list and I
> > don't appreciate the
> > spam. In other words, I'm not interested. Sod off,
> > poofta! Welcome to
> > my mail filter... :P>>
> > 
> > scarey thing is the most profitable products
> (drugs,
> > alcohol,
> > and cigarettes) all profit on people's
> > weaknesses/insecurities
> > ...in addition the longer, you feel insecure, the
> > longer you'll
> > stay single, the more you'll use these
> > products...imagine that
> > a "beast" that profits from people's
> > weaknesses/insecurities!!
> > ...yup, the battle between destruction and
> creation
> > is really 
> > goin on...
> > 
> > beat the beast...find love!!
> > 
> 
> =====
> #include <stdio.h>
> #include <techno_revolution.h>
> int main()
> {
>   rock_is_dead();
>   return 0;
> }
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> << >Does anyone know what effect is used on a lot of Eiffel 65's music. It 
> seems
>  >like a vocoder but I haven't been able to get a vocoder to do that 
> modulation

> That song is played 24/7 on WNCI now,Don't Ask me Why I know...My Cd Player 
> was broke for a month and I wuz forced to listen to the Radio to entertain 
> myself.

once again, i'd like to restate how much i really love 'blue'. more
importantly, i just picked up the 12" version of it in beautiful
urbana. rock!
 
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 Fuck both of you.
 Rage rules.
 Your turn.

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, atomly wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Jonathan Voigt wrote:
> > fuck rage.
> > tool rules.
> 
> Word.  :P
> 
> I'm trying to stay out of this Rage argument because I know it'd be
> another one of those things where I send off a bunch of 10 page e-mails
> that nobody cares about...  Hopefully I can continue to exercise
> restraint. :)
> 
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In a message dated 2/1/100 11:26:37 AM EST, voigtjr@umich.edu writes:

<< fuck rage.
 
 tool rules.
  >>


yo!  i heard tool's new disc will be out soon.  they keep delaying the 
release date i guess cause they want that shit to be so perfect!  remember 
how rocked you were when aenima came out!  it was so much different than 
undertow!  i can only imagine what this next one will be like!  only God 
knows right know, i can;t even guess what kinda crazy shit will happen!  
(adam jones, guitar and director of the videos, also went to my high school!  
:)  )

trust in me and all is well!

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you can keep that shit matt.  *i'm* gonna order the 2step version
of "finally" today!!!

"finally it's happened to me... right in front of my face..." 

chad

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> once again, i'd like to restate how much i really love 'blue'. more
> importantly, i just picked up the 12" version of it in beautiful
> urbana. rock!
>  
> matt
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In a message dated 2/1/100 3:58:55 AM EST, michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< could fumiya tanaka be related 
 to masato tanaka?  would they ever play together?  i'd love to hear the 
 "japanese jeff mills" play records whilst the "japanese mick foley" took on 
 mike awesome "mullet" for the ECW world heavyweight strap.
  >>


masato could give people the roaring elbow on the dance floor if they got to 
close to fumiya's tables!  then mike awesome would come out and give masato 
an awesome bomb right thru the console!  judge jeff jones would start 
spinning some 80's rock bullshit, and little spike dudley, the giant killer 
himself, would come out and give mike awesome an acid drop off the top 
speaker, while bill alfonso the man who calls it right down the middle would 
beat up jeff jones!  oh icould see it now!  this could be some new thing, you 
know?  like ECW on TNN brings you, "Extreme Raves!"  a blend of loud music, 
loud beer guzzling need-to-cut-my-hair-in-the-back-cause-my-rat 
tail-touches-my-shoulder-blades wrasslers, and party kids all under one roof. 
 the only bad thing is that they would hold it in the Dolton!

yo, ECW is the shit, i know everything bout everything!  :)

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actually... not to nitpick, but there's alot of evidence that they
stole the name from a column that Kent McClard used to write in 
MaximumRocknRoll, back in the days when Zach de la Rocha sang for
a mediocre straightedge band called Inside Out.

chad

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> rage against the machiene -  maybe when they first started the band back in 
> the day (actually they started after college) it just sounded like an in your 
> face, rock the place, kickin ass at a break-neck pace kinda name, you know?  
> thats all, its just a name for a band, not some burden they carry that 
> requires them to stand up for midwestern college kids and their parent's 
> tuition money. (i too am a midwest college student who uses parent's tuition 
> money)
> 
>  i grew up on rage, can you tell?
> 
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In a message dated 2/1/00 6:37:14 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cumby@uiuc.edu writes:

<< actually... not to nitpick, but there's alot of evidence that they
 stole the name from a column that Kent McClard used to write in 
 MaximumRocknRoll, back in the days when Zach de la Rocha sang for
 a mediocre straightedge band called Inside Out. >>

No..Rage Against the Machine was ORGINALLY Suppossed to be the name of the 
first album released by Zack's former band INSIDE OUT.
-Nicci

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:Look what the hell I started..
:*Keepz Rock bandz to self* I won't bring up another one for you to point
out
:and critize. ;(


yeah, it's called a discussion....and granted, some people may have very
passionate views on one side or the other, but then, that's what makes life
so interesting...

think about it..

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[--Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote--]

[>Wow, this is some great bullshit.  Ever hear of Microsoft?I heard they're
[>sort of big.  If they get broken up, do you really think they'll be so
[>disempowered? <snip>

Yes they will... remeber what happened to the bells?!  or the
railroads?!  

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 01 18:59:37 2000
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Semiconscious is proud to announce a new mixtape series celebrating those who wait out late for the next ride.

Over the past nine or so years running through the rave scene, we as a dj system and collective have gone through periods of elevation and reclusion.  This of course being in response to the trends of the ever evolving scene we exist in.  One thing we have always prided ourselves in was our 'backstreets' approach to underground culture and music.  We are the ones who ride the back of the bus for good reason.  We are the ones who are on the long ride home.  No matter, no weather, it has not only been about the music... but about the true inner science that exists within the fabric of life itself.  The hidden paths.

We hope in our introduction of "Owl Service" to bring you the forgotten lines of the transit system known as techno/jungle/hip hop; offering you stops you'd never dream of taking alone.  Your guides along this journey will include fresh faces as well as familiar cats on the prowl.  

Admit to yourself.  You've seen the Loop.  Next stop Logan Square.

Owl Service Volume One featuring on the decks:

Dj Natty - Jungle - Chicago - Cosmic Breaks recordings - a true buffalo soldier always packing a crate of heavy hitting chewns directly inspired by Mr. Selassie himself.  Thirty minutes of the latest ragga beats and chatter to infect your gray matter with the stickiest resin known to man.

Kid Entropy - Jungle - Chicago - Cosmic Breaks, Black Monolith, Fear Recordings - The 4 AM hood affiliated depthstep.  Moody, apocalyptic, deathjazz inspired breakbeats reflecting the heart and soulessness of gentrification... making sun-ra proud.  This ain't your grandma's sippin' tea.

available mid february at local mixshops, tape booths, and online at the our website.  http://beam.to/entro

also...

eye-d vs. kid entropy "sabor naturale de coco e.p." available late february on http://www.blackmonolith.com

kid entropy "hijacked fabric" dj/mc mixtape available through http://www.untranslatable.com 

be on the lookout for the follow-up solo 12 inch on louisville based fear recordings sometime late summer.

NOTE: We are in the process of switching over to the blackmonolith darkstep server... pardon our dust on http://beam.to/entro... 


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granted, good music is good music - i always like to look a little deeper.

hpothetically - would you listen to rage against the machine if they were 
really raging against Jews ?    is their rhythm section _THAT_ tight ?

this discussion is not about music, this discussion is about hipocracy.

-adam jay

In a message dated 2/1/00 4:11:02 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Kcaj123@aol.com writes:

> yes, and all the poor, ill-researched, politically immature reasons you 
just 
>  listed are an excellent way to pass judgement on their MUSIC!  i mean, 
hey, 
>  the drummer and bass player are so tite together, but that mexican guy 
"che" 
> 
>  on that shirt thing was stupid, so the music is too.  and tom morello 
comes 
>  up with some damn creative and just plain rock you outta your socks guitar 
>  riffs with high energy, but since you think you know more than him about 
>  politics even though HE graduated from Harvard, his playing sucks.
>  

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Hey people!

Just got back from the Windy City and f*ck that was a good party!
Great space, great crowd and pretty hefty sound rig..
Respect to all those who turned out, even if the weather was shitty..
I sat in the car park on occasion having a beer on the and there was heaps
of people getting stuck in the snow and on the curb!! Hard to get out of
when your rolling eh? hehe..
Anyway maximum respect to all of you - really enjoyed it!
See ya soon,

Brisk.

Next Generation Records Ltd.
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I agree with you that Microsoft (which has
unofficially been declared a monopoly), AOL-Time
Warner, and all the banks (soon to just be called "the
bank") are getting bigger through mergers but the laws
are on the books.  We just don't have public officials
who will enforce them...in fact, Janet Reno seems to
have a hard time enforcing any laws at all...

--Will

--- "Jerome C. Austriaco II"
<jaustria@students.depaul.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, William Adams wrote:
> 
> >We practice a restrained  capitalism that
> manipulates interest rates to
> >control the stock market and doesn't let one
> company get so big as to
> >become a monopoly.
> 
> Wow, this is some great bullshit.  Ever hear of
> Microsoft?I heard they're
> sort of big.  If they get broken up, do you really
> think they'll be so
> disempowered?  Also, you have to look at the recent
> mergers going on.  AOL
> buying out Time-Warner (the fact that it wasn't
> Time-Warner buying out AOL
> speaks volumes, but that's another story), Disney
> and CBS, all the banks
> merging, it goes on and on...this just goes to show
> that just because an
> entity isn't labeled "a monopoly" doesn't mean it
> doesn't have as much
> power as one.  Internet retailers too, have the
> potential to become a much
> bigger monster than it already is.  They're great
> for consumers, but
> they're killing mom-and-pop stores.  I'm even a
> great victim of this (for
> now).  I own a home-based car stereo retail
> business.  The only people I
> can cater to are the ones that can't find the
> equipment on the
> internet.  I have a really tough time matching their
> prices, and at times
> I can't.  This is not hurting me as much as regular
> retail stores, but
> only because I barely have any capital to lose.  I
> thought that small
> businesses are the essence of this country.  I was
> really proud of myself
> because I got this thing up and going at age 19 late
> last year.  But the
> fact is until I can get all my products straight
> from the manufacturer,
> which often requires a buy-in of about $10000, my
> profit margins are
> slim.  How are small retail businesses supposed to
> grow now?  If there
> were no internet retailers, I think I'd be able to
> pay for my tuition
> myself by now!  Tell me, what is the American way?
> Sorry to all about my rambling,
> Jerry
> 
> 
>
______________________________________________________________________________
> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> 
> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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#include <techno_revolution.h>
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{
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I thought some of you might like to know this...don't get pissed at me 
please...I'm just forwarding info...
>>
>>
>> ><< NO MORE FREE E-MAIL... !!!!!!!!!
>> >
>> >  CNN has reported that within the next two weeks
>>Congress is going to
>> >vote
>> >  on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL
>>FEE for Internet
>> >Access.
>> >
>> >  Translation: Every time we send a long distance
>>e-mail we will
>>receive
>> >a
>> >  Long Distance charge. This will get costly.
>> >
>> >  Please visit the following web site and file a
>>complaint.
>> >
>> >  Complain to your Congressperson. We can't allow
>>this to pass! The
>> >  following address will allow you to send an e-mail
>>on this subject
>> >  DIRECTLY to your Congressperson.
>> >
>> >  http://www.house.gov/writerep
>> >
>> >  Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent. I hope
>>all of you will
>>pass
>> >
>> >  this on to all your friends and family. We should
>>ALL have an
>>interest
>> >in
>> >  this one.
>> >
>> >  THERE'S MORE. IN ADDITION, the last few months have
>>revealed an
>> >alarming
>> >  trend in the Government of the United States
>>attempting to quietly
>>push
>> >
>> >  through legislation that will affect your use of
>>the Internet.
>> >
>> >  Under proposed legislation, the U.S. Postal Service
>>will be
>>attempting
>> >to
>> >  bilk e-mail users out of "alternate postage fees."
>>Bill 602P will
>> >permit
>> >  the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge
>>on every e-mail
>> >  delivered by billing Internet Service Providers at
>>the source. The
>> >  consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
>> >
>> >  Washington D.C. lawyer Richard Stepp is working
>>without pay to
>>prevent
>> >  this legislation from becoming law.
>> >
>> >  The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost
>>revenue due to the
>> >  proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000
>>in revenue per
>> >year.
>> >
>> >  You may have noticed their recent ad campaign
>>"There is nothing like
>>a
>> >  letter." Since the average citizen received about
>>10 pieces of
>>e-mail
>> >per
>> >  day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual
>>would be an
>>additional
>> >50
>> >  cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above
>>and beyond their
>> >  regular Internet costs.
>> >
>> >  Note that this would be money paid directly to the
>>U.S. Postal
>>Service
>> >  for a service they do not even provide. The whole
>>point of the
>>Internet
>> >
>> >  is democracy and non-interference. If the federal
>>government is
>> >permitted
>> >  to tamper with our liberties by adding a surcharge
>>to e-mail, who
>>knows
>> >
>> >  where it will  end. You are already paying an
>>exorbitant  price for
>> >snail
>> >  mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It
>>currently takes up to
>>6
>> >  days for a letter to be delivered from New York to
>>Buffalo. If the
>>U.S.
>> >
>> >  Postal Service is allowed to tinker with e-mail, it
>>will mark the
>>end
>> >of
>> >  the "free" Internet in the United States. One
>>Congressman, Tony
>> >Schnell,
>> >  has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar per
>>month surcharge on
>>all
>> >
>> >  Internet service" above and beyond the government's
>>proposed e-mail
>> >  charges.
>> >
>> >  Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored
>>the story, the
>>only
>> >
>> >  exception being The Washingtonian, which called the
>>idea of e-mail
>> >  surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come"
>>(Editorial, March
>> >  6th,1999).
>> >
>> >  Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away!
>>Send this e-mail to
>> >  EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends
>>and relatives to
>>write
>> >
>> >  to their Congressman and say "NO TO BILL 602P!"
>> >
>> >  It will only take a few moments of your time, and
>>could very well be
>> >  instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.
>> >
>> >  PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES E-MAIL.
>> >
>> >  REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT
>>ALL OF US ONLINE.
>> >
>> >  LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER!!!!!!

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From: "francis palmacci" <fpalmacci@mediaone.net>
To: "Matt Haggerty" <haggz77@yahoo.com>, "Matt Carns" <mcairns@ikon.com>,
        "Mary Galluzzo" <mgalluzzo@colortrieve.com>,
        "Chris Graff" <cgraff@onsite-inc.com>,
        "Flo Dunlap" <fdunlap@harvard.edu>,
        "Frank Marchant" <sewall@netzero.net>,
        "John Dunlap" <jdunlap@town.arlington.ma.us>,
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Subject: Fw: no more free Email!!!!!!!!    really
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Savatski <dino7@se.mediaone.net>
To: Wynsome Betty <wbetty@bellsouth.net>; Sarah <KSarahsue2@aol.com>; Bob
Young <tikibob@fatchicksinpartyhats.com>; Lori Stone <stone3@gate.net>; john
lahti <bigun340@webtv.net>; Veljko007 <Veljko007@cs.com>; francis palmacci
<fpalmacci@mediaone.net>; Lee Kett <lee23@ct.freei.net>; Frankie
<fgaibor@antigenics.com>; LULU <Lulug7@aol.com>; BOOM7 <ninoch7@aol.com>;
<Kano473@aol.com>; Blanki y Galo <marvv3@webtv.net>; Pilar M. Garces
<garcespi@pb.com>; A&J Sanchez <jsanchez03@snet.net>; Eddie & Savina
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<HB0723@aol.com>; Yoelis <diaz77@netzero.net>; Stephany_ <mylenez@hotmail.co
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:21 PM
Subject: FW: no more free Email!!!!!!!! really


>
>
> Dennis Savatski..Dino7
> http://www.pompano.net/~dino7
> ----------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pjrfuller@juno.com [mailto:pjrfuller@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:24 PM
> To: agoglia@prodigy.net; b-rat@mindspring.com; dongail2@juno.com;
> drgerald@juno.com; dsweet-ad4ul@worldnet.att.net; emeryp@juno.com;
> floricchio@aol.com; GIABOCA@aol.com; gilsuarez@aol.com;
> glmanthei@iopener.net; HCordero@compuserve.com;
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> schulman@prodigy.net; triplep@prodigy.net; wfdbud@ibm.net
> Subject: Fwd: no more free Email!!!!!!!! really
>
>
>
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: RBellosi@aol.com
>
> I sent my opposition against Internet taxing of any kind to Wexler who is
> my rep. Hope you write whoever is your's.
>
> Pat
>

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From: "david bellosi" <maestro30@hotmail.com>
To: jaggannath@earthlink.net, alan_caramanica@hotmail.com,
     dawn.keller@prudential.com, dcgeores@aol.com,
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Subject: no more free Email!!!!!!!!    really
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><< NO MORE FREE E-MAIL... !!!!!!!!!
>
>  CNN has reported that within the next two weeks Congress is going to
>vote
>  on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL FEE for Internet
>Access.
>
>  Translation: Every time we send a long distance e-mail we will =
receive
>a
>  Long Distance charge. This will get costly.
>
>  Please visit the following web site and file a complaint.
>
>  Complain to your Congressperson. We can't allow this to pass! The
>  following address will allow you to send an e-mail on this subject
>  DIRECTLY to your Congressperson.
>
>  http://www.house.gov/writerep
>
>  Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent. I hope all of you will =
pass
>
>  this on to all your friends and family. We should ALL have an =
interest
>in
>  this one.
>
>  THERE'S MORE. IN ADDITION, the last few months have revealed an
>alarming
>  trend in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly =
push
>
>  through legislation that will affect your use of the Internet.
>
>  Under proposed legislation, the U.S. Postal Service will be =
attempting
>to
>  bilk e-mail users out of "alternate postage fees." Bill 602P will
>permit
>  the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every e-mail
>  delivered by billing Internet Service Providers at the source. The
>  consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
>
>  Washington D.C. lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to =
prevent
>  this legislation from becoming law.
>
>  The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the
>  proliferation of e-mail costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per
>year.
>
>  You may have noticed their recent ad campaign "There is nothing like =
a
>  letter." Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of e-mail
>per
>  day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an =
additional
>50
>  cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond their
>  regular Internet costs.
>
>  Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal =
Service
>  for a service they do not even provide. The whole point of the =
Internet
>
>  is democracy and non-interference. If the federal government is
>permitted
>  to tamper with our liberties by adding a surcharge to e-mail, who =
knows
>
>  where it will  end. You are already paying an exorbitant  price for
>snail
>  mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It currently takes up to 6
>  days for a letter to be delivered from New York to Buffalo. If the =
U.S.
>
>  Postal Service is allowed to tinker with e-mail, it will mark the end
>of
>  the "free" Internet in the United States. One Congressman, Tony
>Schnell,
>  has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar per month surcharge on =
all
>
>  Internet service" above and beyond the government's proposed e-mail
>  charges.
>
>  Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story, the =
only
>
>  exception being The Washingtonian, which called the idea of e-mail
>  surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come" (Editorial, March
>  6th,1999).
>
>  Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this e-mail to
>  EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to =
write
>
>  to their Congressman and say "NO TO BILL 602P!"
>
>  It will only take a few moments of your time, and could very well be
>  instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.
>
>  PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES E-MAIL.
>
>  REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT EFFECT ALL OF US ONLINE.
>
>  LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER!!!!!!
>   >>
>
>
>
>

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 01 19:44:26 2000
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From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Kevin Michael Robbins wrote:
>  Fuck both of you.
>  Rage rules.
>  Your turn.

I'll say that I like Rage (I still own their first CD), but they've never
done anything revolutionary- neither musically nor politically.  Bad
Brains was making the same music Rage is way earlier, and though they are
of the same political mindset I am, they seem to be hypocrites in many
ways.

(...restraint...lessening...doh...)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 01 19:56:09 2000
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:54:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Laine <junglejunkey@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mw] NRR:New Law Under Perposal..... No More Free Email!!!
To: dylan dorrell <ddorrell@hotmail.com>, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
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This is not true, that email has been going around
FORVER. I work at an ISP, no such charges could be
made by the phone company because you don't dial a
long distance number to get connected, you dial a
local number and then are connected though your ISP.
Your phone company could not charge you for a service
(like email) your ISP provides. 
Laine

--- dylan dorrell <ddorrell@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I thought some of you might like to know
> this...don't get pissed at me 
> please...I'm just forwarding info...
> >>
> >>
> >> ><< NO MORE FREE E-MAIL... !!!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> >  CNN has reported that within the next two
> weeks
> >>Congress is going to
> >> >vote
> >> >  on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A
> TOLL
> >>FEE for Internet
> >> >Access.
> >> >
> >> >  Translation: Every time we send a long
> distance
> >>e-mail we will
> >>receive
> >> >a
> >> >  Long Distance charge. This will get costly.
> >> >
> >> >  Please visit the following web site and file a
> >>complaint.
> >> >
> >> >  Complain to your Congressperson. We can't
> allow
> >>this to pass! The
> >> >  following address will allow you to send an
> e-mail
> >>on this subject
> >> >  DIRECTLY to your Congressperson.
> >> >
> >> >  http://www.house.gov/writerep
> >> >
> >> >  Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent. I
> hope
> >>all of you will
> >>pass
> >> >
> >> >  this on to all your friends and family. We
> should
> >>ALL have an
> >>interest
> >> >in
> >> >  this one.
> >> >
> >> >  THERE'S MORE. IN ADDITION, the last few months
> have
> >>revealed an
> >> >alarming
> >> >  trend in the Government of the United States
> >>attempting to quietly
> >>push
> >> >
> >> >  through legislation that will affect your use
> of
> >>the Internet.
> >> >
> >> >  Under proposed legislation, the U.S. Postal
> Service
> >>will be
> >>attempting
> >> >to
> >> >  bilk e-mail users out of "alternate postage
> fees."
> >>Bill 602P will
> >> >permit
> >> >  the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent
> surcharge
> >>on every e-mail
> >> >  delivered by billing Internet Service
> Providers at
> >>the source. The
> >> >  consumer would then be billed in turn by the
> ISP.
> >> >
> >> >  Washington D.C. lawyer Richard Stepp is
> working
> >>without pay to
> >>prevent
> >> >  this legislation from becoming law.
> >> >
> >> >  The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost
> >>revenue due to the
> >> >  proliferation of e-mail costing nearly
> $230,000,000
> >>in revenue per
> >> >year.
> >> >
> >> >  You may have noticed their recent ad campaign
> >>"There is nothing like
> >>a
> >> >  letter." Since the average citizen received
> about
> >>10 pieces of
> >>e-mail
> >> >per
> >> >  day in 1998, the cost to the typical
> individual
> >>would be an
> >>additional
> >> >50
> >> >  cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year,
> above
> >>and beyond their
> >> >  regular Internet costs.
> >> >
> >> >  Note that this would be money paid directly to
> the
> >>U.S. Postal
> >>Service
> >> >  for a service they do not even provide. The
> whole
> >>point of the
> >>Internet
> >> >
> >> >  is democracy and non-interference. If the
> federal
> >>government is
> >> >permitted
> >> >  to tamper with our liberties by adding a
> surcharge
> >>to e-mail, who
> >>knows
> >> >
> >> >  where it will  end. You are already paying an
> >>exorbitant  price for
> >> >snail
> >> >  mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It
> >>currently takes up to
> >>6
> >> >  days for a letter to be delivered from New
> York to
> >>Buffalo. If the
> >>U.S.
> >> >
> >> >  Postal Service is allowed to tinker with
> e-mail, it
> >>will mark the
> >>end
> >> >of
> >> >  the "free" Internet in the United States. One
> >>Congressman, Tony
> >> >Schnell,
> >> >  has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar
> per
> >>month surcharge on
> >>all
> >> >
> >> >  Internet service" above and beyond the
> government's
> >>proposed e-mail
> >> >  charges.
> >> >
> >> >  Note that most of the major newspapers have
> ignored
> >>the story, the
> >>only
> >> >
> >> >  exception being The Washingtonian, which
> called the
> >>idea of e-mail
> >> >  surcharge "a useful concept who's time has
> come"
> >>(Editorial, March
> >> >  6th,1999).
> >> >
> >> >  Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode
> away!
> >>Send this e-mail to
> >> >  EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your
> friends
> >>and relatives to
> >>write
> >> >
> >> >  to their Congressman and say "NO TO BILL
> 602P!"
> >> >
> >> >  It will only take a few moments of your time,
> and
> >>could very well be
> >> >  instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.
> >> >
> >> >  PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES
> E-MAIL.
> >> >
> >> >  REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT
> EFFECT
> >>ALL OF US ONLINE.
> >> >
> >> >  LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER!!!!!!
> 
>
______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at
> http://www.hotmail.com
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 
> From: "francis palmacci" <fpalmacci@mediaone.net>
> To: "Matt Haggerty" <haggz77@yahoo.com>, "Matt
> Carns" <mcairns@ikon.com>,
>         "Mary Galluzzo" <mgalluzzo@colortrieve.com>,
>         "Chris Graff" <cgraff@onsite-inc.com>,
>         "Flo Dunlap" <fdunlap@harvard.edu>,
>         "Frank Marchant" <sewall@netzero.net>,
>         "John Dunlap"
> <jdunlap@town.arlington.ma.us>,
>         "Jon MacLean" <jcmac2@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Fw: no more free Email!!!!!!!!    really
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:41:01 -0800
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis Savatski <dino7@se.mediaone.net>
> To: Wynsome Betty <wbetty@bellsouth.net>; Sarah
> <KSarahsue2@aol.com>; Bob
> Young <tikibob@fatchicksinpartyhats.com>; Lori Stone
> <stone3@gate.net>; john
> lahti <bigun340@webtv.net>; Veljko007
> <Veljko007@cs.com>; francis palmacci
> <fpalmacci@mediaone.net>; Lee Kett
> <lee23@ct.freei.net>; Frankie
> <fgaibor@antigenics.com>; LULU <Lulug7@aol.com>;
> BOOM7 <ninoch7@aol.com>;
> <Kano473@aol.com>; Blanki y Galo <marvv3@webtv.net>;
> Pilar M. Garces
> <garcespi@pb.com>; A&J Sanchez
> <jsanchez03@snet.net>; Eddie & Savina
> <Zaldum7@aol.com>; Mannix Zaldumbide
> <mzaldumbide@dekker.com>; MAURICE
> MEDINA <MEDINA9@webtv.net>; Nayme <coupe93@aol.com>;
> hector
> <hruiz01@yahoo.com>; Manuel Fernandez
> <manuel17@netzero.net>; Manuel
> Fernandez <manuel17@fl.freei.net>; Many
> <fernandez66@netzero.net>; Hector B
> <HB0723@aol.com>; Yoelis <diaz77@netzero.net>;
> Stephany_ <mylenez@hotmail.co
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 2:21 PM
> Subject: FW: no more free Email!!!!!!!! really
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Dennis Savatski..Dino7
> > http://www.pompano.net/~dino7
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pjrfuller@juno.com
> [mailto:pjrfuller@juno.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 12:24 PM
> > To: agoglia@prodigy.net; b-rat@mindspring.com;
> dongail2@juno.com;
> > drgerald@juno.com; dsweet-ad4ul@worldnet.att.net;
> emeryp@juno.com;
> > floricchio@aol.com; GIABOCA@aol.com;
> gilsuarez@aol.com;
> > glmanthei@iopener.net; HCordero@compuserve.com;
> > herko@FAU.campuscwix.net; hotwacs@juno.com;
> jdb28@flinet.com;
> > jpethia@worldnet.att.net; kenv@traci.net;
> leonls@aol.com;
> > lnielsen@gate.net; louyovin@ibm.net;
> luismuriel@compuserve.com;
> > pavek@us.ibm.com; prc555@juno.com;
> rbellosi@aol.com; rouen@ibm.net;
> > schulman@prodigy.net; triplep@prodigy.net;
> wfdbud@ibm.net
> > Subject: Fwd: no more free Email!!!!!!!! really
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: RBellosi@aol.com
> >
> > I sent my opposition against Internet taxing of
> any kind to Wexler who is
> > my rep. Hope you write whoever is your's.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > From: "david bellosi" <maestro30@hotmail.com>
> To: jaggannath@earthlink.net,
> alan_caramanica@hotmail.com,
>      dawn.keller@prudential.com, dcgeores@aol.com,
>      ghouck@delphi.com, hossalvarez@hotmail.com,
>      jenb@stannesea.org, k_culver@hotmail.com,
> moibear1@aol.com,
>      NJaspr@aol.com, RBellosi@aol.com,
> ROSE91670@aol.com,
>      m_barcia@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:03:43 PST
> Subject: no more free Email!!!!!!!!    really
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> 
> 
> 
> ><< NO MORE FREE E-MAIL... !!!!!!!!!
> >
> >  CNN has reported that within the next two weeks
> Congress is going to
> >vote
> >  on allowing telephone companies to CHARGE A TOLL
> FEE for Internet
> >Access.
> >
> >  Translation: Every time we send a long distance
> e-mail we will receive
> >a
> >  Long Distance charge. This will get costly.
> >
> >  Please visit the following web site and file a
> complaint.
> >
> >  Complain to your Congressperson. We can't allow
> this to pass! The
> >  following address will allow you to send an
> e-mail on this subject
> >  DIRECTLY to your Congressperson.
> >
> >  http://www.house.gov/writerep
> >
> >  Pass this on to your friends. It is urgent. I
> hope all of you will pass
> >
> >  this on to all your friends and family. We should
> ALL have an interest
> >in
> >  this one.
> >
> >  THERE'S MORE. IN ADDITION, the last few months
> have revealed an
> >alarming
> >  trend in the Government of the United States
> attempting to quietly push
> >
> >  through legislation that will affect your use of
> the Internet.
> >
> >  Under proposed legislation, the U.S. Postal
> Service will be attempting
> >to
> >  bilk e-mail users out of "alternate postage
> fees." Bill 602P will
> >permit
> >  the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent
> surcharge on every e-mail
> >  delivered by billing Internet Service Providers
> at the source. The
> >  consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP.
> >
> >  Washington D.C. lawyer Richard Stepp is working
> without pay to prevent
> >  this legislation from becoming law.
> >
> >  The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost
> revenue due to the
> >  proliferation of e-mail costing nearly
> $230,000,000 in revenue per
> >year.
> >
> >  You may have noticed their recent ad campaign
> "There is nothing like a
> >  letter." Since the average citizen received about
> 10 pieces of e-mail
> >per
> >  day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual
> would be an additional
> >50
> >  cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year,
> above and beyond their
> >  regular Internet costs.
> >
> >  Note that this would be money paid directly to
> the U.S. Postal Service
> >  for a service they do not even provide. The whole
> point of the Internet
> >
> >  is democracy and non-interference. If the federal
> government is
> >permitted
> >  to tamper with our liberties by adding a
> surcharge to e-mail, who knows
> >
> >  where it will  end. You are already paying an
> exorbitant  price for
> >snail
> >  mail because of bureaucratic inefficiency. It
> currently takes up to 6
> >  days for a letter to be delivered from New York
> to Buffalo. If the U.S.
> >
> >  Postal Service is allowed to tinker with e-mail,
> it will mark the end
> >of
> >  the "free" Internet in the United States. One
> Congressman, Tony
> >Schnell,
> >  has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar per
> month surcharge on all
> >
> >  Internet service" above and beyond the
> government's proposed e-mail
> >  charges.
> >
> >  Note that most of the major newspapers have
> ignored the story, the only
> >
> >  exception being The Washingtonian, which called
> the idea of e-mail
> >  surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come"
> (Editorial, March
> >  6th,1999).
> >
> >  Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away!
> Send this e-mail to
> >  EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends
> and relatives to write
> >
> >  to their Congressman and say "NO TO BILL 602P!"
> >
> >  It will only take a few moments of your time, and
> could very well be
> >  instrumental in killing a bill we don't want.
> >
> >  PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO USES
> E-MAIL.
> >
> >  REMEMBER THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES THAT
> EFFECT ALL OF US ONLINE.
> >
> >  LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD NOW, NOT AFTER!!!!!!
> >   >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>
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> 
> 

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damn people...shut up already...I fucked up...I'll never try to be helpfull 
again...I hereby five you permission to ream my ass for committing such an 
attrocity the next time you seem me...

fuck hardcore
especially dj tranerek

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From: Luke Rider <zaphod@spacestar.net>
To: Laine <junglejunkey@yahoo.com>
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>>This is not true, that email has been going around
FORVER. I work at an ISP, no such charges could be
made by the phone company because you don't dial a
long distance number to get connected, you dial a
local number and then are connected though your ISP.
Your phone company could not charge you for a service
(like email) your ISP provides. 
Laine<<

I also work at an ISP (not Spacestar, though...), and haven't heard
anything about the proposed surcharge on email for a couple years now.

I have no idea what is going through congress right now - is there website
that you can check that stuff on?

ANYWAYS.  I think the proposal would work something like this: ISPs would
monitor the use of their mailserver by their customers, and then bill them
for email sent - and then give that money to the USPS.

That would really suck, not only for the users, but for the ISPs.  As of
now, we don't monitor use of our mailserver by individials - that would be
completely impractical (there are thousands of accounts for many domains
on that machine).  Not to mention it'd greatly increase the work of our
billing department - something we're not ready to handle.

Anyways.  I haven't heard anything about it for quite a while, and I think
it's bullshit.  If anyone has a link to a website that I could check stuff
that's going before congress, though, I'd be more than willing to look
into it...
--
Luke Rider
ICQ UIN: 3970769
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kindy kandy michael sed:

<<60 cents under minimum wage is ILLEGAL, stevie.  frankly i'm surprised
that
a well-respected institution such as long john silver's would try to pull
that one over on you.  maybe you should take them on judge mathis, where
minorities are free to piss and moan all they want.  it's courtroom
hilarity's finest hour!>>

I think that it depends on whether or not you are full time, or at least how
many hours you work. If you aren't working enough hours they don't have to
pay you minimum wage (in some states, if not all sates?)...

I could be wrong.

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 No, I wouldn't.  Not practicing what you preach and spewing forth racism
are two fairly different things though.  I agree with whoever said
earlier that it's hard for them to like bands who support things that
they disagree with, because I'm the same way.  But for me personally this
only applies to bands that say, for example, preach racism or satanism or
some shit like that, not bands whose political views might be slightly
different from mine. 

 Kevin

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 AzureRecs@aol.com wrote:

> granted, good music is good music - i always like to look a little deeper.
> 
> hpothetically - would you listen to rage against the machine if they were 
> really raging against Jews ?    is their rhythm section _THAT_ tight ?
> 
> this discussion is not about music, this discussion is about hipocracy.
> 
> -adam jay
> 
> In a message dated 2/1/00 4:11:02 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
> Kcaj123@aol.com writes:
> 
> > yes, and all the poor, ill-researched, politically immature reasons you 
> just 
> >  listed are an excellent way to pass judgement on their MUSIC!  i mean, 
> hey, 
> >  the drummer and bass player are so tite together, but that mexican guy 
> "che" 
> > 
> >  on that shirt thing was stupid, so the music is too.  and tom morello 
> comes 
> >  up with some damn creative and just plain rock you outta your socks guitar 
> >  riffs with high energy, but since you think you know more than him about 
> >  politics even though HE graduated from Harvard, his playing sucks.
> >  
> 
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>Anyways.  I haven't heard anything about it for quite a while, and I think
>it's bullshit.  If anyone has a link to a website that I could check stuff
>that's going before congress, though, I'd be more than willing to look
>into it...

all the info you'd ever want on this is at:

http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/emailtax.html

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At 12:35 PM 2/1/00 -0600, XmwravesX wrote:
>actually... not to nitpick, but there's alot of evidence that they
>stole the name from a column that Kent McClard used to write in
>MaximumRocknRoll, back in the days when Zach de la Rocha sang for
>a mediocre straightedge band called Inside Out.

hehe the funny thing about the cover of that inside out EP is that zack is 
wearing that ironman watch and it's the most prevalant thing on the 
cover!  har.

anyone ever hear the downset tune with the alternate lyrics that is just 
dissing RATM for stealing downset's gimmick?  haha it's like "zack's a 
fuckin punk!" etc.  pretty funny stuff!



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RATM appeals to the natural tendency to rebel against the status quo that 
most of us experience when we are about 14-19 years old.  it's 
dial-a-rebellion.  it's hypocritical, yes, and the music rather sucks 
IMNSHO.  _but_ it meets a need.  and who among us can complain if a 
youngster picks up a RATM album and is motivated to start researching 
what's actually going on in the world around him?  98% of the people will 
outgrow "rebellion for rebellion's sake" by their second year out of high 
school.  so just take it with a grain of salt.  your mom said it 
best:  "it's only a phase".  innit.

in an related note, i think propagandhi's politics are fucked heartily in 
the ass, yet they are one of my favourite bands.  go figure!

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For those of you who saw the flyer for this weekend in chi
Cari Lekebusch (yes they spelled it wrong on the flyer) 
was never booked ..
in that case
he will not be there, however alexi and gene will be i guess...
Cari would be the only reason I would be going (i love alexi, but  hes not 
hard enough for me to go to chi for =P)
so if you are the promoter looking at this right now..
you Suck a fat one.
<3lorie

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  What's hypocritical about exposing something that might be an injustice,
and giving people the opportunity to investigate it and make a decision
for themselves?  Or in your perfect little world are all these causes just
propaganda created by record companies to increase sales?  Rebellion for
rebellion's sake?  You sure are selling out Americans.  Maybe you forgot
why we're a country in the first place.  

 Kevin

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> RATM appeals to the natural tendency to rebel against the status quo that 
> most of us experience when we are about 14-19 years old.  it's 
> dial-a-rebellion.  it's hypocritical, yes, and the music rather sucks 
> IMNSHO.  _but_ it meets a need.  and who among us can complain if a 
> youngster picks up a RATM album and is motivated to start researching 
> what's actually going on in the world around him?  98% of the people will 
> outgrow "rebellion for rebellion's sake" by their second year out of high 
> school.  so just take it with a grain of salt.  your mom said it 
> best:  "it's only a phase".  innit.
> 
> in an related note, i think propagandhi's politics are fucked heartily in 
> the ass, yet they are one of my favourite bands.  go figure!
> 
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>tom morello, the lead guitar of the band, graduated with a masters in 
>political science from Harvard. (he attended my high school, too!  :) )  who 
>are any of us to say shit like that?

i am a well-educated, politically active ACTIVIST who pays attention to these issues every day.  i don't just talk the talk; i walk the walk.  and i have every right to comment on hypocrisy when i see it.

i respect all the bandmembers of RITM, i just don't agree with their methodology.  as pixie sez, it's easy to sing about revolution, but it's hard to carry it out when the puppetmaster's hand can yank back the strings when you get too close to the truth.

>
>every band has to sign with someone,

ummm...bullshit...i've already addressed this comment with the discussion of ani difranco, not to mention the thousands of punk bands who've been DIY since the start (umm...Fugazi anyone?)

 and why do you think sony has its dick 
>in their ass?  what actions have RATM taken that make it seems like they are 
>bending over?  producing and writing some of the hardest rock music, and 
>throwing high energy concerts isn't enough for you all to gain their respect 
>as artists?  

nope...

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>
>yes, and all the poor, ill-researched, politically immature reasons you just 
>listed are an excellent way to pass judgement on their MUSIC!  i mean, hey, 
>the drummer and bass player are so tite together, but that mexican guy "che" 
>on that shirt thing was stupid, so the music is too. 

i used to know punks who listened to Skrewdriver (nazi skinhead band) and rationalized it by saying "yeah, i hate their politics, but they fuggin' ROCK!!"   that's some great reasoning there...

 and tom morello comes 
>up with some damn creative and just plain rock you outta your socks guitar 
>riffs with high energy, but since you think you know more than him about 
>politics even though HE graduated from Harvard, 

man...you seem to think that just because someone went to COLLEGE, that means they're smart!  think again...college (especially Ivy League) is one of the most elitist institutions in this country.  the rich go spend mommy's money and learn from books written (mostly) by rich, white men. wow...how well rounded.  i dropped out of college because i SAW RIGHT THROUGH THE LIES that were being shoved down my throat.  i've studied more topics and read more books since i quit school.  but i guess i'm a stupid nobody cuz i didn't graduate with a degree, huh? 

whatever...

>yeah this is a problem with music huh?  sometimes music and politics get 
>confused like that.  you don't like a band's political stance, whatever, and 
>that makes you not like their music.  but if you like their image, then you 
>like their music more too.  its unfortunate that we have trouble respecting 
>artists for their art, and that we have to let such minor, socially created 
>reasons like politics shadow talent and expression.

sorry bub...i believe that true art comes from the gut and from the heart...if i don't feel like the sentiments expressed are coming from there, then NO i don't respect their MUSIC.  music is just SOUND; art is comes from somewhere deeper.

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This Saturday I decide to take a trip to chicago for that party entitled "No 
place like home" but unfortunetly a Storm hit here in Normal so I decide to 
go to the Bang boogie party.

Expecting to see like only 3-500 kids, because of the snow, to my surprise 
there where about 8-1000 people inside, I get in and there is awesome Jungle 
music playing in the main room, so I become excited right away, thinking this 
nigh might not be that bad after all.

It then hits around 11:30 and Frankie Vega starts off with some great house 
music, I was having a great time seeing all my friends boogie away, and just 
everyone with smiles and whistles, and I got to meet all these nice people 
from everywhere.

1:30 Hits and by then im great and chillen, the music slowed me down because 
it became too minimal, but mininal is good because I stilled enjoyed the 
tunes.

So the next Dj comes on Submerge101, He starts off with some great Techno 
everyone just reacted so fast and went off cheering and yelling, everyone was 
just goin off dancing creating this awesome vibe, and the pounding energetic 
music took over my body, I had such a blast. Def the peak of the hour. Does 
anyone know where I can find his tape/CD ?

After that 4-way played in awesome Retro set, I was so hapopy to hear old 
80's tunes, Just the perfect thing to hear after hard banging Techno, We 
where all singing along to memories it was great.

I just want to give props out to CIA AND THE DJ's for making me enjoy a night 
I thought I was going to be ruined. Keep up the good work.

Nicole
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>
>i respect all the bandmembers of RITM, i just don't agree with their 
>methodology.

i know right!  that guy in all the weird costumes is outta here, right 
along with the tori amos ripoff tunes!!!!!!



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"djshiva" <djshiva@maxart.net> said:

>i used to know punks who listened to Skrewdriver (nazi skinhead 
>band) and rationalized it by saying "yeah, i hate their politics, 
>but they fuggin' ROCK!!"   that's some great reasoning there...

Nothing "rocks" unless it ROKKS!!!   Like Dokken.. They FUKKING ROKK!!!!!

Completely unrelated...

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little spike dudley is the most badass wrestler to ever walk the earth.  i 
even gave him props for inspiration in my last tape.  he is the fearless 
acid-dropping giant killer.  and he has AC/DC for his ring entrance music, 
man you can't beat that with a bat wrapped in barbed wire.

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In a message dated 2/1/00 4:11:06 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
krobbins@umich.edu writes:

>   What's hypocritical about exposing something that might be an injustice,
>  and giving people the opportunity to investigate it and make a decision
>  for themselves?  Or in your perfect little world are all these causes just
>  propaganda created by record companies to increase sales?  Rebellion for
>  rebellion's sake?  You sure are selling out Americans.  Maybe you forgot
>  why we're a country in the first place.  

its hipocracy to 'rage against the machine' if its Sony's hand up your crack.

i said from the VERY BEGINING "while i respect rage's views on certain 
humanitarian issues".... and then went on to call them out on packaging 
anti-system beleifs in a consumer EASY-TO-SWALLOW (((let's mock a gap 
commercial 5 minutes before they air a gap commercial)))  tablet.

i'm not going to go in circles on this argument.

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I think Rage Against the Machine is a very serious
band in the sense that their messages are not just a
collection of dumb slimy lyrics. However, there are
other advocates of struggle against the "system" in
the current top 40 charts. Take Christina Aguilera for
example. "what a girl wants, what a girl needs". How
incredibly deep and penetrating! What a great job in
summarizing a constant battle for women's rights in
this male dominated society. How precisely did
Christina pointed out the wrongs of our world.
Excellent work!
Or for example, let's take take LFO's "Summertime
Girls". What an excellent depiction of the sinful
modern society full of materialistic values "New Kids
of the Block had a bunch of hits, chinese food makes
me sick". Amazing work.

What do you all think?
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You all suck, in 5 months everyone on here will be gone and 2,000 new idiots
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> I think Rage Against the Machine is a very serious
> band in the sense that their messages are not just a
> collection of dumb slimy lyrics. However, there are
> other advocates of struggle against the "system" in
> the current top 40 charts. Take Christina Aguilera
> for
> example. "what a girl wants, what a girl needs". How
> incredibly deep and penetrating! What a great job in
> summarizing a constant battle for women's rights in
> this male dominated society. How precisely did
> Christina pointed out the wrongs of our world.
> Excellent work!
> Or for example, let's take take LFO's "Summertime
> Girls". What an excellent depiction of the sinful
> modern society full of materialistic values "New
> Kids
> of the Block had a bunch of hits, chinese food makes
> me sick". Amazing work.
> 
> What do you all think?
> misha


Oh boy... I'm a femnazi.. so you dont even wanna get
me started on the likes of Christa Aguilera lol..
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 01 21:49:58 2000
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keeping it music related, yes...their rhythm section is that tight...i saw
them a few years back and theres not too many live bands nowadays who do it
like that...tool is another btw...and i remember fugazi rocking it that way
too...

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> granted, good music is good music - i always like to look a little deeper.
>
> hpothetically - would you listen to rage against the machine if they were
> really raging against Jews ?    is their rhythm section _THAT_ tight ?
>
> this discussion is not about music, this discussion is about hipocracy.
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> i know right!  that guy in all the weird costumes is
> outta here, right 
> along with the tori amos ripoff tunes!!!!!!

what the hell....?
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:35:40 -0800 (PST), Mikhail Khaimov wrote:

>Take Christina Aguilera for example. "what a girl 
>wants, what a girl needs". How incredibly deep
>and penetrating! What a great job in summarizing
>a constant battle for women's rights in this male 
>dominated society. How precisely did Christina
>pointed out the wrongs of our world.
>Excellent work!
>Or for example, let's take take LFO's "Summertime
>Girls". What an excellent depiction of the sinful
>modern society full of materialistic values "New Kids
>of the Block had a bunch of hits, chinese food makes
>me sick". Amazing work.
>
>What do you all think?


I think you should be embarrased to know the lyrics
to those songs !  ;)

	Joe



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>Take Christina Aguilera for
>example. "what a girl wants, what a girl needs". How
>incredibly deep and penetrating!

i'll show christina aguilera "deep and penetrating".  the only thing that 
girl wants and needs is my dick pounding her mercilessly.  unF.

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Laine wrote:

> This is not true, that email has been going around
> FORVER. I work at an ISP, no such charges could be
> made by the phone company because you don't dial a
> long distance number to get connected, you dial a
> local number and then are connected though your ISP.
> Your phone company could not charge you for a service
> (like email) your ISP provides.
> Laine

Not only that, this would be technically impossible to
implement.  There would be soooo many ways around
anything like this.  The Internet would be almost impossible
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 01 22:39:43 2000
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know what though? the people of chiapas, mexico couldnt give less of a fuck 
what LABEL zack de la rocha is signed under. they dont see sony INK raping 
their land, taking away their natural resources, killing their people, 
denying them the basic HUMAN rights they deserve..the see NAFTA...they see 
the mexican government, they see the u.s. and europe..they see every 
capitalist venture..every cup of coffee we drink...ripping apart their 
country and killing them. yet, de la rocha and countless other brave people 
are fighting for the EZLN. hanging out in the poorest colonies in the 
poorest state in mexico (which says a lot, mind you) is no glamorous 
publicity stunt. now, im addmitting here that i am not too familiar with 
what connections sony inc has with nafta or any actions they may have made 
to promote whats happening to the poor not only in mexico but 
everywhere....so if someone does know..i would be really happy to learn. (in 
which case, i would stand corrected on this whole de la rocha matter) but 
for now all i see is a guy who's fighting with people who are fighting the 
most powerful foe anyone would ever meet. and they couldnt give less of a 
fuck about sony incorporated or white suburban kids wearing che guevara 
t-shirts or blahblhablahblahblah.
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yeah your right val, fuck those mexicans!


>From: "valerie valenzo*" <valerieev@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "valerie valenzo*" <valerieev@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] hi. im contributing to a pointless argument.
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 16:38:20 CST
>
>know what though? the people of chiapas, mexico couldnt give less of a fuck
>what LABEL zack de la rocha is signed under. they dont see sony INK raping
>their land, taking away their natural resources, killing their people,
>denying them the basic HUMAN rights they deserve..the see NAFTA...they see
>the mexican government, they see the u.s. and europe..they see every
>capitalist venture..every cup of coffee we drink...ripping apart their
>country and killing them. yet, de la rocha and countless other brave people
>are fighting for the EZLN. hanging out in the poorest colonies in the
>poorest state in mexico (which says a lot, mind you) is no glamorous
>publicity stunt. now, im addmitting here that i am not too familiar with
>what connections sony inc has with nafta or any actions they may have made
>to promote whats happening to the poor not only in mexico but
>everywhere....so if someone does know..i would be really happy to learn. 
>(in
>which case, i would stand corrected on this whole de la rocha matter) but
>for now all i see is a guy who's fighting with people who are fighting the
>most powerful foe anyone would ever meet. and they couldnt give less of a
>fuck about sony incorporated or white suburban kids wearing che guevara
>t-shirts or blahblhablahblahblah.
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I believe Dr. Thunder and Arno both know all of the
lyrics to all of Kristeen Agulera's songs, they are
huge fans
signed
Jon "im a genie in a bottle, you gotta rub me the
right way" Gotti

> 
> I think you should be embarrased to know the lyrics
> to those songs !  ;)
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 could someone tape the show for me cause i don't have cable anymore.i'm
really interested in what the documentary has to say about one molecule
which has done phenomenal things to our society.
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hey!  the "unrated" version of american pie is gonna be on PPV next 
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with all the previous talk about blue, i have yet to hear this stinking
track. Well matt, you're gonna have to play that thing for me and if i
hate it, you're gonna have to let me break if over your head!
-choppie

On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, matt positive wrote:

> once again, i'd like to restate how much i really love 'blue'. more
> importantly, i just picked up the 12" version of it in beautiful
> urbana. rock!
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"Pedro the Janitor" declared:


>You all suck, in 5 months everyone on here will be gone and 2,000 new
>idiots will be posting lame ass shit to the list, so why don't you all
>go to hell!!
>
>-Pedro the Janitor


 Pardon me, Senor, but aren't you the one who keeps spamming us about
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IT's NOT PUMPS, its a penile exercise manual that has won many awards and
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At 01:18 PM 02/01/2000 -0800, djshiva wrote:
>
>>
>>yes, and all the poor, ill-researched, politically immature reasons you
just 
>>listed are an excellent way to pass judgement on their MUSIC!  i mean, hey, 
>>the drummer and bass player are so tite together, but that mexican guy
"che" 
>>on that shirt thing was stupid, so the music is too. 
>
>i used to know punks who listened to Skrewdriver (nazi skinhead band) and
rationalized it by saying "yeah, i hate their politics, but they fuggin'
ROCK!!"   that's some great reasoning there...


 The person they were originally arguing with was taking shots at Rage's
music, separate from the politics, and that's what they're referring to.
If you choose not to listen to someone because of their poltical views
that's fine, but that doesn't mean that musically what they produce is
shit.  Most of your arguments show that you have either have not been
following this discussion, or have a really short attention span.


> and tom morello comes 
>>up with some damn creative and just plain rock you outta your socks guitar 
>>riffs with high energy, but since you think you know more than him about 
>>politics even though HE graduated from Harvard, 
>
>man...you seem to think that just because someone went to COLLEGE, that
means they're smart!  think again...college (especially Ivy League) is one
of the most elitist institutions in this country.  the rich go spend
mommy's money and learn from books written (mostly) by rich, white men.
wow...how well rounded.  i dropped out of college because i SAW RIGHT
THROUGH THE LIES that were being shoved down my throat.  i've studied more
topics and read more books since i quit school.  but i guess i'm a stupid
nobody cuz i didn't graduate with a degree, huh? 
>

 Did they call you stupid or say any of the things that you're saying, or
are you showing you insecurities by bringing this shit up.  The point they
were making is, someone who graduated from an Ivy League institution isn't
going to say something as stupid as, "we don't know much about communism or
socialism but we thought..."  or whatever the quote mentioned was(which
obviously was a joke).  And for your information, Ivy League schools are
the most liberal institutions on earth.  Try taking classes at one of these
places and not being told as some point how horrible "rich, white men" are
for what we've done to every fucking race on this planet.     


>whatever...

  whatever...


>
>>yeah this is a problem with music huh?  sometimes music and politics get 
>>confused like that.  you don't like a band's political stance, whatever,
and 
>>that makes you not like their music.  but if you like their image, then you 
>>like their music more too.  its unfortunate that we have trouble respecting 
>>artists for their art, and that we have to let such minor, socially created 
>>reasons like politics shadow talent and expression.
>
>sorry bub...i believe that true art comes from the gut and from the
heart...if i don't feel like the sentiments expressed are coming from
there, then NO i don't respect their MUSIC.  music is just SOUND; art is
comes from somewhere deeper.
>
>shiva

 
Since they've made certain decisions(some bad maybe) to get their music and
message to the masses, they're not true artists?  You're blowing off some
of the rawest most innovative music of our generation because of the label
they chose to sign to.  If you really believe that's it's all an act then
that's your right to believe that.  I've read and watched everything I
could get my hands on in the last eight years even semi-related to Rage and
all I've ever heard from them is dedication.  Dedication to their music
simply because it's a means to get across their message.  


  Kevin 


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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Advanced Health and Nutrition wrote:

+IT's NOT PUMPS, its a penile exercise manual that has won many awards and
+has been recommended by many doctors!  It works!

regardless,  mw-raves is not the place to be sending your spam.

please stop?

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In a message dated 2/1/0 7:01:31 AM, lenlindsey wrote:

<<I will refer to as "cut-throat" and go all out to ruin any other party that

is on the same night as one they are throwing.  I hope this is not a common

thing (would really be a shame) ... but I am curious about the Atlanta area.

How are the promoters in that area? A lot of the people on this maillist

seem to be EXTREMELY knowledgeable and I was hoping someone might know!>>

"cut throat" promotors are what killed the san diego scene in the
beginning...here in the midwest, the promotors are alot more chill
...bout as bad as we get is the flame war me & michael are havin...
but i know michael from when he first got in as a candy ravah...he's
still way candy...but our flames are all in good fun!...free entertainment
for the list members @ each other's expense...throwin parties the
same night is pretty much unheard of in the midwest, mostly cuz
there aren't that many parties to begin with now & most of the
promotors post about their party well ahead on the rave lists to
avoid competition...

as for info about atlanta, i would join the se-raves list or you can
ask jarred aka djthrilla@aol.com or bagel aka erban23@aol.com,
both have spent some time in the atlanta scene before...hope that
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In a message dated 2/1/0 11:51:47 PM, pedro wrote:

<<IT's NOT PUMPS, its a penile exercise manual that has won 
many awards and has been recommended by many doctors!  It works!


-Senior grande cocko>>

<stevie yanks the self-incriminating mw-raves idiot of the month
  award from michael's glow in the dark sphinctor and stuffs it in 
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:46:19 -0800 (PST) Tiffanie Hamilton
<keepdamwalive@yahoo.com> writes:
> um you would be the only one left on the list....to think ~happy~
> thoughts....

NO WAY!!!!  You know Derek "Playstation"  loves progressive house
and progressive & morning trance.

Peace and love,

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From: "dylan dorrell" <ddorrell@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [mw] Fwd: [kc] Comming soon... www.kcplurkids.com HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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This makes me laugh so hard....I'm ashamed to be from KC!!!

bwahahahahaha
dylan "tranerek" dorrell

>From: "JayBird" <jaysampson@thinkmore.com>
>To: kc-raves@eGroups.com
>Subject: [kc] Comming soon...  www.kcplurkids.com
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:28:18 -0800
>
>
>Hey Kids,
>I've just registered www.kcplurkids.com. I'm going to start
>construction of a full featured multimedia website for all of us. Real
>time java chat rooms, live, subject oriented message boards (like this
>one), up to the minute calendar of events, promoters section, DJ's
>Section, online vinyl and cd store, sweet ass intertactive photo
>gallery, Party kid games, and all types of ill shit! (~Don't Be A
>Menace)  I want every idea, and every thought you guys have on the
>subject. I'm makin' this for all you kids and want it to be what you
>want. Blow my mail box up with ideas! Tell me what KC kids want. If
>this goes as planned we're gonna start a nationwide network of
>inter-linked plur kids web sites. Also, if anyone is talented in grafic
>design and would like to help also let me know. I'm not makin' a
>fuckin' penny off of this, so any help would be the
>shiznitobamsnipsnapsnappy!. (~Half Baked) This site won't be up
>tomorrow or any crazy shit like that, but soon enough my friends.
>(prolly a month or so) Gimme yer thoughts kids.
>
>Luv Ya's
>P.L.U.R.
>
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:28:35 -0800 (PST) William Adams
<insanityfr@yahoo.com> writes:
> We all bitch and complain about who's running the
> govenment and we all act like it's the government's
> fault that things are so screwed up...but's it's not
> their fault, it's your's (as in the citizens of the
> US).  WE elect our leaders.  

True, but we have no control over the fact that our elected
officials may become corrupted by numerous sources (if they
aren't fronting already) once in office.
This picture is not so black and white as you portray it.

Peace and love,

Mike aka Dr. Bläsé
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In a message dated 2/1/0 5:57:49 PM, jerry wrote:

<<But the
fact is until I can get all my products straight from the manufacturer,
which often requires a buy-in of about $10000, my profit margins are
slim.  How are small retail businesses supposed to grow now?  If there
were no internet retailers, I think I'd be able to pay for my tuition
myself by now!  Tell me, what is the American way?
Sorry to all about my rambling,>>

sell your entire car-stereo inventory to one of the internet
dealers...use that profit as capitol to invest in an internet
based penis pump & anal glo-stick dealing web site featuring
real time video's of pedro manually showing how to use
the pump and how it has dramatically increased the size
of his pecker and a real time video showing how michael's
anal glo-stick are the easiest to project out of one's poop
chute over all the other generic bulky brands!!

in the future everyone will have their 15 minutes of idiocy!!

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History channel now.  The history of LSD.

Check it out (if you have cable)

peace,
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In a message dated 2/1/00 10:09:54 PM !!!First Boot!!!, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< i'll show christina aguilera "deep and penetrating".  the only thing that 
 girl wants and needs is my dick pounding her mercilessly.  unF. >>

I Call dibz on Chino :)
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In a message dated 2/2/0 12:56:17 AM, me sed:

<<sell your entire car-stereo inventory to one of the internet
dealers...use that profit as capitol to invest in an internet
based penis pump & anal glo-stick dealing web site featuring
real time video's of pedro manually showing how to use
the pump and how it has dramatically increased the size
of his pecker and a real time video showing how michael's
anal glo-stick are the easiest to project out of one's poop
chute over all the other generic bulky brands!!>>

oh yah, and since you will have the only web site that
promotes such unusual products, you will soon develop
a monopoly!!...soon no kandy raver dude would even dare
walk outta his house without a 2 foot penis enhanced
by one of pedro's penis pumps and a dj michael 
mcknight glo-stick stickin outta his read end!!!...then
the federal government will intervene & try to break
up yur monopoly, so pedro pretends to just market his
penis pump, michael pretends to just market his "special"
glo-sticks, but you secretly reap all the profit...and
eventually you make enough $$ to buy out AOL, which by
then has a monopoly over all the communication technology
in the world...and with your new found power, you 
subliminally inject all AOL communications with
secret message to worship you...you become the infamous
"beast" described in the bible!!!...and for a short while you
rule the world with your 2 foot penis and glow in the
dark anus, until....


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 01:30:43 2000
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well..it's very repetitive in it's chorus yet very catchy.  You might like 
it you might not like it.  But I for one believe that hearing this song way 
to often could be detrimental to one's equilibrium.


nuff said...
mischief comes...and mischief goes
loki319


>From: chopstiks <mkhemma@orion.it.luc.edu>
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>with all the previous talk about blue, i have yet to hear this stinking
>track. Well matt, you're gonna have to play that thing for me and if i
>hate it, you're gonna have to let me break if over your head!
>-choppie
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> > once again, i'd like to restate how much i really love 'blue'. more
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In a message dated 2/2/0 1:14:17 AM, you wrote:

<<History channel now.  The history of LSD.

Check it out (if you have cable)>>

=~(

wah!!...i don't got no cable!!...i live ghetto style!!

but that will all soon change...

hey zenopiez & darlin nicci, can we get a satellite
disk so we can get all the cable channelz after we
make enough loot from our porn site? 

;P~

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 Steviet069:     yur a goofy butt!
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shoot!...cuz we need it for rent
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like jack tripper....lol
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goofy
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 I Have lssuez:  pretty much lol
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 Steviet069:     cept like jack worked in a restaurant & i dont...i dont 
remember where janet & suzan worked
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In a message dated 2/1/100 2:13:57 PM EST, AzureRecs@aol.com writes:

<< is their rhythm section _THAT_ tight ?
  >>


do you have any experience playing bass guitar or drums in a live band?  

yes their rhythm section IZ that tite!  :)


>this discussion is not about music, this discussion is about hipocracy.

well, somebody gimme a good example of how they are being hypocritical then.  
see, i said before that just cause their name  is "rage against the machiene" 
that does not mean they are responsible for "raging" against the "machiene" 
how a bunch of white suburban kids (all of us) think it should be raged 
against.  what if they played polka music and supported oktoberfest?  would 
you all still think they are responsible for "raging against this so called 
machiene" ? or would you just think its a stupid name?
 
and  you all talk trash even though they do more in one day to help 
suffereing people "rage" than any of us will ever do.  this part gets me the 
most.  its not like they AREN'T helping people.  its not like they AREN'T 
trying hard to make a difference.  its just that you all for some reason 
can't see past this sony label bullshit.

again please take no offense, cuz this one is even more attackable than the 
last  :)

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In a message dated 2/1/100 4:13:55 PM EST, djshiva@maxart.net writes:

<< >every band has to sign with someone,
 
 ummm...bullshit...i've already addressed this comment with the discussion of 
ani difranco, not to mention the thousands of punk bands who've been DIY 
since the start (umm...Fugazi anyone?)
  >>


don't talk to me bout FVGAZI  i know the story.  i could give a shit about 
ani difranco too.  check this out, there is an easy way and a hard way.  
neither one is better or more right or wrong than the other, cause in my 
opinion, the end result is exactly the same.  so if you think you are too 
underground or sumthin to sign with someone big, well, fuck you, don't 
complain about it when you can't sell shit.  if sony came knockin on my door 
offereing me millions to do my thing with their money, fuck the "underground" 
or whatever you call it.  cause all i really want to do is let as many people 
as possible be influenced by my music, so you do the dog and pony show and 
some magazines and tv and shit.  who the fuck cares, its better than sitting 
behind a desk 40 hours a week being a yes man.  call me a sell out, i'll have 
my bikini models send you a christmas card from my private island in jamaica 
or sumthin.   (ha! i have such high hopes!)

please nobody take offense to this crap i type. and when i say "you"  i mean 
no one specific, its just an example.

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In a message dated 2/1/100 7:02:51 PM EST, krobbins@umich.edu writes:

<< The person they were originally arguing with was taking shots at Rage's
 music, separate from the politics, and that's what they're referring to.
 If you choose not to listen to someone because of their poltical views
 that's fine, but that doesn't mean that musically what they produce is
 shit.   >>

thank you kevin for stating the obvious here, cause apparently i didn't do a 
good enough job of it.  right up there what you typed is all i was trying to 
say.

>The point they
>were making is, someone who graduated from an Ivy League institution isn't
>going to say something as stupid as, "we don't know much about communism or
>socialism but we thought..."  or whatever the quote mentioned was(which
>obviously was a joke).  And for your information, Ivy League schools are
>the most liberal institutions on earth. 

again kevin, thank you for that one too.  i know that most of college is 
bullshit, i jus have a hard time believing that mr. morello doesn't know more 
than God about politics and the way they work, i mean, c'mon, Harvard?!?!?   
a masters degree?!?!?  and he's gonna go say sumthing as stupid as"..well, i 
don't know much bout socialism and communisim..."   it was obviously a joke 
or taken out of context or sumthin.

>You're blowing off some
>of the rawest most innovative music of our generation because of the label
>they chose to sign to.  If you really believe that's it's all an act then
>that's your right to believe that.  I've read and watched everything I
>could get my hands on in the last eight years even semi-related to Rage and
>all I've ever heard from them is dedication.  Dedication to their music
>simply because it's a means to get across their message.  


see, i must have communication barriers that i still need to get around or 
sumthin.  this is all i was trying to say.  seriously.  haven't photek and 
source direct and others done work for astralwerks record label?  and aren't 
photek etc. some of the most respected dnb producers today?  well, should we 
not like photek just cause astralwerks has some fat boy slim tracks too?  
seriously fat boy slim, hold on, i gotta go burn my photek records and discs 
real quick.....

dedication to their music while creating it.  dedication to their music while 
playing it.  and then on the side they like to try and spread a positive, 
treat your fellow man with some god damned respect, kinda message.  i can dig 
it.  and i could care less about sony.  fuck sony and fuck the shitty shelf 
system i bought a few years back that broke a year later.  (i do like my 
headphones though)  but fuck sony, they are just a buncha chumps who have 
bank that helped rage pay for mass producing some cds.  i'm not gonna let 
that get in the way of the ART that ratm produces.

blah i think i'm done, this has been very intersting, but very weird.

peace always  :)

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yo i noticed im not the only one having trouble responding to messages!  if 
you just hit respond, it responds to the person who last wrote, not to the 
entire list!   

blah sorry for the confusion all

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oh man that was great, i learned so much and now i am gonna go and trip more 
often. RObotussin works well too my friends.

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hmm..ive seen the unrated version on my friend traci's dvd and it isnt all 
that..sorry to burst your bubble...theres only one difference that i could 
tell..but i wont spoil it for ya :p
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what was the point of this post except to waste bandwith and my time?

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>And where else are you gonna get a Che Gevera T-Shirt
>at anyway (yes, I do know who Che is, and he ain't
>even Mexican)

word. I was wondering when someone was going to mention that.

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What, you haven't noticed that Stevie posts one of his useless dialogs on
AOL on here almost every week?  Stevie, why do you do this?
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In a message dated 2/1/00 9:07:56 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Kcaj123@aol.com writes:

> do you have any experience playing bass guitar or drums in a live band?  

yes... actually i do.

>  yes their rhythm section IZ that tite!  :)
>  
>  
>  >this discussion is not about music, this discussion is about hipocracy.
>  
>  well, somebody gimme a good example of how they are being hypocritical 
then. 

getting paid by the system to commercialize and CONSUMERIZE fucking the 
system.
it aint rocket science - and i have come to the conclusion that this topic is 
above your head.

color me an elitist, color me a dickhead.
its poetic terrorism, aint it? (for all you t.a.z. readerz)

-adam jay (you wont smell corporate semen on my breath, ahem)

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I think the way it works is that if tips are going to be your main source
of income at that job (i.e., waiter, valet), they're allowed to pay you
less than minimum wage.  But then again, I, too, could be mistaken.
Jerry

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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Radianation wrote:

> kindy kandy michael sed:
> 
> <<60 cents under minimum wage is ILLEGAL, stevie.  frankly i'm surprised
> that
> a well-respected institution such as long john silver's would try to pull
> that one over on you.  maybe you should take them on judge mathis, where
> minorities are free to piss and moan all they want.  it's courtroom
> hilarity's finest hour!>>
> 
> I think that it depends on whether or not you are full time, or at least how
> many hours you work. If you aren't working enough hours they don't have to
> pay you minimum wage (in some states, if not all sates?)...
> 
> I could be wrong.
> 
> - Radianation
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In a message dated 2/1/00 7:02:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
krobbins@umich.edu writes:

> 
>   The person they were originally arguing with was taking shots at Rage's
>  music, separate from the politics, and that's what they're referring to.
>  If you choose not to listen to someone because of their poltical views
>  that's fine, but that doesn't mean that musically what they produce is
>  shit.  Most of your arguments show that you have either have not been
>  following this discussion, or have a really short attention span.

actually - i started the discussion and it had jack shit to do with their 
music. i "took shots" at rage's consumer transmission of an anti-consumer 
message.

blah tom morrello is inovative, blah their drummer is decent.    tHIS 
DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT POLITICS mr. SHORT ATTENTION SPAN.

shall i forward the stupid mother fuckers the original message?

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In a message dated 2/1/2000 9:47:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
AzureRecs@aol.com writes:

<< color me an elitist, color me a dickhead.
 its poetic terrorism, aint it? (for all you t.a.z. readerz)
  >>
hmmmmm......where's my flesh colored crayon at???  Now I just need to figure 
out the color of an Elitist......

makin paintings for the King of Candy
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In a message dated 2/1/100 9:48:34 PM EST, AzureRecs@aol.com writes:

<< shall i forward the stupid mother fuckers the original message? >>


yo i'm out of this one now.  as soon as the maturity level dropped to pre 
school i knew there would be trouble, but now that we have gone even lower...

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In a message dated 2/1/100 9:39:55 PM EST, Azure Recs writes:

<< >  well, somebody gimme a good example of how they are being hypocritical 
then. 
 
 getting paid by the system to commercialize and CONSUMERIZE fucking the 
system.
 it aint rocket science - and i have come to the conclusion that this topic 
is above your head. >>



yo brother, its not that easy right?  un fortunately everyone has to sell out 
somehow. right? everyone has to get theirs, right?  its not like they were an 
activist group first, and then they turned into a band, either, right?  and 
its not like they use their political angle to sell that many rekkids,right?  
have you seen a show?  zach doesn;t even say shit on stage.  its not like he 
gets up there and starts giving a speech about how we need to make a 
difference.  they don't use their shows as a way to spread their message or 
nuthin.  they just come on stage and ROCK it out.

yo check it, i ain't even trying to be a jerk about nuthin.  so if for some 
reason you think i don;t understand what you are saying, help me understand.  
i still don't get the hypocritical thing, and trust me friend, it ain;t over 
my head.  why are they hypocritical, cuz you have heard them say that they 
think high school kids should take a stand?  they don't say that.  cuz they 
said that they hate sell outs?  no they didn;t say that either.  i just don't 
understand, its just a name of a band, not a statement or a way of life.

and yo, so you have experience with traditional rock music rhythm 
instruments?  cool then.   i play bass and drums.  have you tried learning 
their shit?  the bass lines are tough.  and listen to the way the bass drum, 
and the bass guitar complement each other on the beat.  it goods, don't you 
think?  

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  First of all, take a deep breath.  We're having a discussion, not a
screaming match.  I'm actually enjoying this more than talking shit about
Stevie, and I don't think there's a need for tears.  Notice I said in my
message, "the person they were originally arguing with", not "the person
who started this thread."  Their response was directed at someone who was
talking shit about their music, not just about their alleged hypocrisy.
I'm sure they could find it in their sent mail folder if they wanted to.
But you can go ahead and send us stupid mother fuckers whatever you like if
it will make you feel better.

  Kevin



At 09:43 PM 02/01/2000 EST, AzureRecs@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 2/1/00 7:02:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
>krobbins@umich.edu writes:
>
>> 
>>   The person they were originally arguing with was taking shots at Rage's
>>  music, separate from the politics, and that's what they're referring to.
>>  If you choose not to listen to someone because of their poltical views
>>  that's fine, but that doesn't mean that musically what they produce is
>>  shit.  Most of your arguments show that you have either have not been
>>  following this discussion, or have a really short attention span.
>
>actually - i started the discussion and it had jack shit to do with their 
>music. i "took shots" at rage's consumer transmission of an anti-consumer 
>message.
>
>blah tom morrello is inovative, blah their drummer is decent.    tHIS 
>DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT POLITICS mr. SHORT ATTENTION SPAN.
>
>shall i forward the stupid mother fuckers the original message?
>


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We are the Indianapolis Alliance - a network of 
promotional companies, DJs, producers, artists,
and record labels.  

Indpls Alliance members include:

House of Babylon Broductions of Indpls
Sista Jade Entertainment
Mystery Mixx Entertainment
DiscoDisciples d'Amour
*.* recordings
SubWarped Records
Mighty Tikki God Records



We apologize for any inconvenience this may bring
but there is a correction to a previous post
regarding the first installment of MiCROCOSM!

Unfortunately, DJ Moda will not be attending the
first installment of MiCROCOSM.  Instead, he has 
cancelled his residency in San Fransisco on 
Friday March 24th to come play with us in the 
second installment of MiCROCOSM.  That date
will also feature OH! Donovan (AKA Sean Patrick)
from Ireland whose banged the progression at
such clubs as Vortex in Berlin, Taboo in 
Montreal, and Ministry of Sound in London and
has played summer festivals in Ibiza!  We are 
very proud to have secured these two very
accomplished trance heads!  

As an apology for agreeing (then re-nigging)
the February MiCROCOSM date (and this is the
good news), it LOOKS like Moda has secured us
a killer deal with JazzE (his partner-in-crime)
and Christopher Lawrence (his childhood friend)
for JUNE 3rd, 2000!  

For those of you who don't know, JazzE is the
west coast equivelent of Terry Mullen and
DJ Dan, and even won the US DMC Championship 
in the early 90s.  Imagine Terry Mullen, 
only more spectacular.  Imagine Terrence
Parker, only more smooth with the tricks.
Imagine DJ Dan, only harder with his track
selections!  We're excited, and we hope
you are, too!

For those of you who don't know Mr. Lawrence...
damn!  Where have you been?

Any questions regarding MiCROCOSM should be 
directed to the DiscoDisciples d'Amour at
discodisciples@netscape.net
The DiscoHotLine is 317 713 7123

Our e-mail office is:
alliance317@aol.com

Again these are the confirmed dates:

Feb 18th
Deeon (Dancemania/Roule - Chicago)
Phil Goode (Taboo Records - Montreal)
DJ Toki (SoundinMotion/Cheetah - St Louis)
Adam Abstrakt (Log2 Sound System - AmishCountry)
and the House of Babylon Hostile Takeover!

March 24th
Moda (Trancefusion - SanFran)
OH! Donovan AKA Sean Patrick (Ireland)
Dementia (Log2 Sound System - Amish Country)
and the House of Babylon Hostile TakeOver

Admission - $10

And June 3rd - TECHNORGANiC
Christopher Lawrence
JazzE
Moda
& More!

------------------------The Indpls Alliance----

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[>what was the point of this post except to waste bandwith and my time?

welcome to mw-raves, my friend.  bandwith and time-wasting made to a
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Almost didn't go.  The weather in Indiana was scary.  Fortunately things
got better the closer we got to Chicago.  Got to the net meet around
7:45...fortunately everyone was still there :)  Wasn't as many people as
the one before Bonkers but it was still a lot of fun :)  Boppity and
Paul...it was great meeting both of you...you guys are awesome :D  Paul,
thanks for buying me and my boyee water at the party :D  Prasad...lookin
sexy as usual ;p

Got to the party and was in the door within 10 minutes.  Thankfully cuz I
left my coat in the car....sacrificed warmth for convenience and cuteness
;p  Security was pretty relaxed when I got there...the woman that searched
me was really nice...she looked like a cop...all she did was grope my
pockets and ask me what everything was...didn't make me take anything out.

Went to go pay for our tickets...and the following took place:

Briank (my guy): *hands ticket guy 3 $20'*
Ticket Guy: You want 3 tickets?
Briank: No, only two
Fergus: Unless they are supposed to be $20 and that's why you think we want
3...since we gave you 3 $20's.
Ticket Guy: *evil look at fergus*  *says nothing*

Bah.  I think it's really shitty that tickets weren't sold out of state.
And don't give me that "you can give yer credit card #" blah blah bullshit.
 I'm not giving my credit card # out over the phone...and for me to send a
mail order and expect my tickets back within 6 days...it wasn't going to
happen.  

But anyways.

The venue was AWESOME.  Altho I'm wondering how many people slipped and
fell on those steep walkways...with all the flyers and stuff lying around
:o  Listened and danced to Brisk's "house" set.  If that's house...the mw
needs more of it.  There was actually a beat ;p

Didn't even know there was a "second" room til about 11:30 when Prasad came
and rescued me and my guy from some god-awful-I-don't-want-to-know-what
that was being played.  Altho since I was sitting on the speaker...the
vibrations did feel pretty good on my ass ;p  Followed Prasad to the other
room...walked in...and didn't leave for the rest of the night.  The set up
was INCREDIBLE.  The speakers kicked ass, the lighting kicked ass, the size
of the room kicked ass.  To me it was exactly the kind of place a party
should be held at.

Delta 9 beat my ass.  If I was a guy I would have had a serious hard-on
throughout his entire set.  I have two hurt knees, a hurt lower back, and a
very sore neck but GODDAMMIT I HAD FUN.  I don't remember the last time I
heard a hardcore set that good...probably when I saw him in Arizona like 3
or 4 years ago.

Hyperactive played way to fucking long.  I was nearly in tears from
boredom.  And what the hell was up with all those backspins?  Geezus at
least make em sound good...not like some horrific screech.

Sy and Brisk.  Ya know...I can bitch about the ticket price all I
want...but when it comes right down to it...I would have paid ANY amount of
money to see my guy as happy as he looked when they started playing.  I
never thought I would cry at a party...but when the person you love with
all your heart...the person who is your soul mate...is standing there
singing "you will always be the love of my life, the love of my life, you
will always be the one that I want" to you...it was kind of hard not to
cry.  God help me I'm in love with a happy hardcore fiend.  *swoon* :D

To be honest...I didn't enjoy their set as much as I enjoyed Sy's at
Bonkers.  It didn't seem to have that "oomph" that I like.  But they still
played quite a few of my favorite songs :)

Left after that.  The drive home wasn't as bad as the drive up.
Fortunately it had stopped snowing.

My throat is sore.  One too many "fuck yeahs!" on my party during D-9 I
guess :P

Michael it was great seeing you again :)  If possible I'd like a copy of
that pic you took of me and brian :)

We took a whole roll of pictures...maybe one of these days I'll post em.  I
think Prasad took a group pic of the net meet...I want a copy of that one
too please :)

Ok I think that's it...overall I had a blast.  I honestly don't think I've
ever had that much fun at a party before.  Being able to hug the speakers
with my guy...it was an amazing experience :D

fergus :D

Oh yeah...I was the girl wearing the blue T-shirt with the hippo on it that
said "hip" under it, and sometimes a black sweatshirt over that...my hair
was in a ponytail.  :P



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Here's a short poem I wrote dedicated to electronic music.
I really poured my heart into it, and I believe that you, as
someone who also loves electronic music, might be able to
appreciate where I'm coming from.  Peace.

"Electronic Beats"
An Ode by Kevin M. Ryan

Electronic beats
I really like the way you sound in my ears when I listen to you
Electronic beats
I think that your phat when you are underground
Electronic beats
I hear you allot at rave partys that are underground
Electronic beats
I really like you're style
Electronic beats
I also like you're smile
Electronic beats
If only you had a face
Electronic beats
But that is not the case
Electronic beats
Sometimes I think you are my best freind but usually I don't
Electronic beats
This here pome that I wrote for you because I think your phat
Electronic beats
I just ate about a hundred Werther's Originals so I feel really fat
Electronic beats
You are with me in the day
Electronic beats
You are by my side during the night
Electronic beats
Your out of sight!!!!
Electronic beats




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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:54:03 -0800 (PST) Laine <junglejunkey@yahoo.com>
writes:

> Your phone company could not charge you for a service
> (like email) your ISP provides. 

Unless your phone company IS your ISP.
USWest offers internet service for one, I'm sure there
are others that do the same.

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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:24:05 -0800 (PST) Jessica Shoaf
<eiectraiux@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > i know right!  that guy in all the weird costumes is
> > outta here, right 
> > along with the tori amos ripoff tunes!!!!!!
> 
> what the hell....?

This is in reference to Shiva mistakenly typing RITM (Rabbit In The Moon)
instead of RATM (Rage Against The Machine)
I was going to post something about that but was beat to the punch.

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>what was the point of this post except to waste bandwith and my time?

haha i think stevie is so proud of himself since he's actually got at least 
one cute girl talking to him now, and he feels the need to share this with 
the list so that we can all be happy for him.  honestly, i'm as surprised 
as you are.

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>   Security was pretty relaxed when I got there...the woman that searched
>me was really nice...she looked like a cop...all she did was grope my
>pockets and ask me what everything was...didn't make me take anything out.

hey that must have been pretty nice!  too bad when the lady (who was 
extremely unattractive) searched the girl i was with she full-on went 
DIGGING INTO THE CUPS OF HER BRA, and that's no shit.  wouldn't want kids 
bringing in their own shit when there's money to be made with the 
"approved" house dealers, i guess.  i about busted that woman's head, i 
swear to god.

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Does anyone have the info line for this party (menashi twa)?? I want to go 
to it and it's gong to be in madison over valentines day weekend.
if you have it please send it to me.

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saturday february 5th muzique boutique presents:
SUCK MY FUNK
DJ JAZZY JOYCE of DIGABLE PLANETS/NYC
BIZZ/TEXAS ASSASSINS/HOUSTON
SLATER HOGAN/GENIUS INSANITY/INDY
STAN DOUBLIN/KINDRED GROOVE/ST.LOUIS
BOB A DOB/CLUBHEAD/CINCI
MUDKIDS/CRUSH/INDY
INDIANA JONES/CRUSH/INDY
NOAH/CRUSH/INDY
this event is $20 AT THE DOOR  DOORS OPEN AT 10:00PM-6:00AM
the venue is THE HOT SPOT in BLOOMINGTON INDIANA about30-40 minutes south of 
indy.
a second room of sound has been added with the following dj's:
DNA/SCARAB RECORDS
J CROSS/SUBTERROR
MAX/MAXART
five djs from the log squared camp
log 2 will also be providing sound and lights for both rooms.
the venue is fully permitted and heated.
see ya all there
call 317.592.9536 for directions
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this is just an urban legend, but makes for a great read anyway!!

>Envelope-to: michael@happy.hardcorps.org
>Date: Tue,  1 Feb 2000 19:34:10 -0500
>From: "Ravin_Richard" <mybrainhurts@andythepooh.com>
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>To: "party people!!!" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org>
>CC: "my love" <pumagirl33@hotmail.com>, "matt dudek" <gotcandy@hotmail.com>,
>   "barto" <hawkamania@hotmail.com>
>Subject: {pb-cle} NRR: VERY GROSS
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>
> >>>This is a sick story...only proceed if ready...if not,
> >>>delete.
> >>>Really I mean it.....it's really sick....
> >>>
> >>>If you read one disgusting story this year . . . LET
> >>>IT BE THIS ONE !
> >>>
> >>>Susy DeLucci and the Miracle of Life.
> >>>
> >>>One morning around 5am 22 year old Susan DeLucci of
> >>>Kittery, Maine, woke up with a painful need to
> >>>urinate. At first she thought she had diarrhoea, but
> >>>when she stood up out of bed, she realised that it was
> >>>urinary pain.
> >>>
> >>>It was very similar to the feeling of having
> >>>diarrhoea, just out the wrong hole. She wobbled to the
> >>>toilet and upon sitting on it, her vagina erupted into
> >>>the most horrific messy farting noise anyone has ever
> >>>heard.
> >>>
> >>>In paralysing pain, Ms. DeLucci for the next few
> >>>minutes continued to push and squirt out of her vagina
> >>>a burning tide of wretch and filth while she gripped
> >>>the sides of the toilet, white-knuckled.
> >>>
> >>>She was screaming wildly, and the neighbours called
> >>>the police. When medics arrived they found Ms. DeNucci
> >>>unconscious lying on the floor of her bathroom wearing
> >>>nothing but her bath robe.
> >>>
> >>>Running down her leg, was a stream of brown and green
> >>>syrup. The medic had to transfer her to a stretcher,
> >>>so he grabbed her left leg which was bent crossing her
> >>>other leg, to straighten her out. She was lying there
> >>>all twisted up. When he lifted her left leg to
> >>>straighten her body out, he exposed her vagina at
> >>>which point a creature, no larger than the tip of  a
> >>>finger wormed its way out of her genitals and landed
> >>>on the floor with a wet popping sound.
> >>>
> >>>Shocked, the medic stared at the creature that was
> >>>lying on the tile bathroom floor in a casing of
> >>>mucous. It was a tiny mud shrimp and it sat there on
> >>>the cold floor gasping for water while flipping itself
> >>>back and forth.
> >>>
> >>>The horrified medic turned to the toilet as he felt
> >>>the nausea setting in. When he put his face down into
> >>>the toilet to puke what he saw was so horrific that to
> >>>this day he cannot look into a toilet without
> >>>convulsing.
> >>>
> >>>The entire toilet bowl was boiling with baby brown mud
> >>>shrimp flipping and splashing at a furious pace.
> >>>
> >>>If you think that is bad - wait until you hear how it
> >>>happened:
> >>>
> >>>Ms. DeLucci's death was the result of a combination of
> >>>shock and severe head trauma. She stood up over the
> >>>toilet in pain and when she saw what she had done, she
> >>>went into shock and fell, smashing her head on the
> >>>toilet and then on the floor. It is believed by police
> >>>that two nights before the accident she had purchased
> >>>a live lobster at a fish market. While lying in a tub,
> >>>she  gently inserted the creature's tail into her
> >>>vagina to derive physical pleasure. At that point, she
> >>>held a lighter under the creature's face causing it to
> >>>flip its tail in a violent snapping motion. The medics
> >>>found a lesbian
> >>>XXX video in the VCR and the TV was positioned on a
> >>>table in front of the tub.
> >>>
> >>>The lobster was found in the kitchen garbage can
> >>>wrapped in a paper bag.
> >>>
> >>>Traces of Ms. DeLucci's DNA were found on the lobster
> >>>along with pubic hairs that had wedged themselves
> >>>between the lobsters' tail joints. The lobster's face
> >>>was lightly burned with the same fuel used in
> >>>lighters.
> >>>
> >>>The lobster's digestive track and colon were found to
> >>>be full of mud shrimp egg casings. Doctors believe
> >>>that the lobster had eaten them (they are common in
> >>>the water at fish markets and are usually harmlessly
> >>>boiled to death) and the lobster had crapped them out
> >>>into Ms. DeLucci's vagina when she was torturing it.
> >>>Maine mud shrimp only take two days to gestate and Ms.
> >>>DeLucci was only four days away from getting her
> >>>period. Doctors believe that at that point of her
> >>>menstrual cycle, her womb was the perfect PH balance
> >>>to grow these mud shrimp, which are a much larger
> >>>version of the popular "Sea Monkey" pets sold
> >>>throughout the US. Overnight the eggs had hatched and
> >>>the mud shrimp began doubling in size every ten
> >>>minutes!!!
> >>>
> >>>You can imagine the pain she was in when she woke up
> >>>that morning and gave birth to well over 1,000 mud
> >>>shrimp in her toilet.........
> >>>
>
>--
>"Roll it up, light it up, smoke it up, inhale, exhale"
>                                     B-Real of Cypress Hill
>--


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if some woman even thought bout diggin in the cups of my bra i'd knock her
ass out!  forrealz  i can't believe she put up with that shit! 

when i got there, no girls were being searched AT ALL.  it was girls here
and boys there. and alla the boyz were being searched.

fun party tho.  thought we were gonna die on the way...but we got there. 
fookin snow.

--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org> wrote:
> 
> >   Security was pretty relaxed when I got there...the woman that
> searched
> >me was really nice...she looked like a cop...all she did was grope my
> >pockets and ask me what everything was...didn't make me take anything
> out.
> 
> hey that must have been pretty nice!  too bad when the lady (who was 
> extremely unattractive) searched the girl i was with she full-on went 
> DIGGING INTO THE CUPS OF HER BRA, and that's no shit.  wouldn't want
> kids 
> bringing in their own shit when there's money to be made with the 
> "approved" house dealers, i guess.  i about busted that woman's head, i 
> swear to god.
> 
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If you missed it, like I did,
"The History of LSD" is
about to start again at 11pm
on the History Channel.

I will be taping it, but I'm lazy
so don't expect a copy ;)

(you can come over and watch
it if you want to though).

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i'm blue..la da de da du da...da da da de..da oo da....la da dee la do
daaa...i'm blue...

fuego:P


IHavelssuez@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 2/1/00 9:34:23 AM !!!First Boot!!!, =

michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< >Does anyone know what effect is used on a lot of Eiffel 65's music. I=
t =

seems
 >like a vocoder but I haven't been able to get a vocoder to do that =

modulation
 >thing as well as them. Any help? >>

That song is played 24/7 on WNCI now,Don't Ask me Why I know...My Cd Play=
er =

was broke for a month and I wuz forced to listen to the Radio to entertai=
n =

myself.
This has nothing to do with that question,I just realized that.
Teehee
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godfoot@juno.com wrote:

>> Your phone company could not charge you for a service
>> (like email) your ISP provides. 
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>USWest offers internet service for one, I'm sure there
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>From my experience, it seems that the departments of large
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I suppose they *could* do it, if they really wanted to. But they'd probably
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Ugh! My roommate sent me that nasty story and I almost threw up. I don't 
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In a message dated 2/2/0 4:22:24 AM, michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< haha i think stevie is so proud of himself since he's actually got at 
least 
one cute girl talking to him now, and he feels the need to share this with 
the list so that we can all be happy for him.  honestly, i'm as surprised 
as you are. >>

lol, if u saw how many girls i talk to at the same time on AOL,
michael, u'd poop that glowstick outta yur arse!!...i only wish
AOL's buddy list could hold more than 100 people!!

plus, i dont know what yur talkin bout michael, since most of
my exes have been models or dancers...and you've met layla and
christa before.

actually i posted that cuz i thought it wuz funny as shit that 
my new roomies are going to be very similar to that cheezy 
sitcom "three's company"...except we're gonna be the millenium 
version...instead of being servers, my roomies are models (one
nude)...and i'll be their 'pimp' =) ...can't beat dat!!




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I watched it and found it very interesting.  They gave it a fair, unbiased 
treatment which I of course expect from a channel claiming to represent 
history as accurately as possible.  Still, I expected more negative input on 
the supposed dangers of the drug...

Watching it got me thinking...

The psychologists that were most directly involved with its testing seemed 
to be very enthusiastic about what it could do.  And yet they admitted that 
it was very difficult to predict its reactions in patients.

Do you think that it is a necessary quality of a powerful psychedelic drug 
to be unpredictable/uncontrollable?  Is that a crucial feature of what makes 
it so potent (that is, if experiences were NOT unpredictable then the drug 
COULD NOT be as potent as a drug like LSD which has the potential for 
negative AND positive effects)?  Perhaps the cerebral crotex's inability to 
control and coordinate the brain whole IS the psychedelic experience.

I think that might be the case.  I have noticed in my own use of marijuana 
that the more control I gain over the "high" experience, the less potent the 
experience becomes.

****Main point made.  Continue reading only if you want to read some akward 
philosophical bumbling***************************************

A similair balance seems to exist between creativity and what I can only 
describe as "cohesion of thought."  When high, I feel an order of magnitude 
more creative (creativity defined here as the ability to formulate novel 
ideas and explanations) but with a NECESSARY trade off in thought cohesion 
(thought cohesion can best be described as the ability to link correct ideas 
logically).  Its almost like light and dark.  A room cant be perfectly light 
and pitch dark at the same time, it would be a contradiction of terms.  Of 
course there can be varying levels of illumination, but the room can only 
get lighter if it gets less dark.

So can one only become more creative if ones thoughts become less cohesive?  
It seems one could argue this pretty convincingly and would be interesting 
if this were true, but I refuse to conclude this on the basis of two mind 
states, sober/marijuana intoxication, both originating from the same 
individual.  My knowledge of other peoples LSD experiences seems to confirm 
the hypothesis; they appear to recieve heightened creativity at the cost of 
being able to construct a logically compatible explanation to unite the 
creative thoughts with reality (ig: "Conciousness is logically necessary 
because it is awareness of anything"  Something i wrote once while high, but 
what does it mean!!  I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of 
religous philosophy in a attempt to show that conciousness MUST exist in 
order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot off 
any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).

But then consider those people who are math geniuses.  They seem to 
simultaneously think creatively AND link their ideas logically and 
coherently.  Maybe they think creatively on M/W/F and then logically 
assmeble their "insights" on T/R/S and then rest on sunday?  Maybe they have 
more control of this ability and are able to switch between "creative" and 
"logical" mode so quickly that the two meld into an indivorcable behavior.  
Like flashing the light switch on and off so quickly that the room is 
absolutely dark and absoultely light simultaneously....

Anyway, I wont take LSD any more becuase I am a skeptic by nature and I 
began asking WAAAAAAAAAY too many questions after the second time I did it 
("how do I KNOW reality is real" type shit ;)...

sorry for the rambling.  I dont care if anyone read this.  I just needed to 
write it.  I am more critical of my ideas this way and while I could simply 
now delete them, I hope some one may criticize them well.

Adam




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Info from: http://www.technoheaven.com/madison-milwaukee.htm

Sat Feb 12 {Madison} Menage A Trois (Equilibrium Entertainment)
Valentines Day Weekend
DJs: Jazzy Jeff (Philadelphia), OS/2 (Toronto - Trance - Destiny, D.A.M.N.,
Boscaland Records, Phoenix Uprising UK), Cyberjive (New Orleans -
TechHouse - BetterDays Records - New Orleans House Project), Czech
(Vancouver - Downtempo/TripHop - Futuristic Flava Records, Dose, Lifeforce),
N2O (Tampa - Trance - Medical Grade, Family Tree), Adeptus (Madison -
Trance - Guardians of Eden), Ryan William (Madison - Trance - Vital Fix),
D-On (Dubs - Madison - Eucalyptus Records, Midwest Bass Syndicate), Jesse
Collins {RealAudio set} (Drum N Bass - Madison - Steele Willy Productions),
Miss Hollie {RealAudio set} (Breaks / House / Trance / Techno - Madison -
Deceptikon Unit, Eucalyptus), Elija, Miracle & MCAIM (Drum N Bass - Door
County - Soldiers of Love, Eucalyptus Records, DCM), Morse Code (Milwaukee -
In House Collective, Dish), Mike Carlson (Madison - Master Beats), General
Jasha (Madison - Pacesetter Sound System, Steelo Records), Nat the Girl
(Drum N Bass - Manchester UK - Equilibrium Entertainment)
Three Rooms. Lighting by Light Fantastic, Sound by Sandman Sound, Interior
Atmosphere by Astrologix Design Team
$25 / Doors open at 10pm / R.O.A.R. / Info: 608.283.3398 or
bassrush@chorus.net

I hope to be there too!

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )

----- Original Message -----
From: Rachelle A. <batwoman_82@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [mw] Menashi twa


> Does anyone have the info line for this party (menashi twa)?? I want to go
> to it and it's gong to be in madison over valentines day weekend.
> if you have it please send it to me.
>
> Thanks,
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i just found it EXTREMELY interesting ANd surprising that one of the main 
Historian of the program (i forgot his name)... at the end of the program 
said..

"in a culture that accepts the manipulation of our consciousness, our psychy 
from so many different agents from prozac to valium to caffeine to chocolate 
to whatever...is there a place for LSD?..............Yea, i think their 
should be."


ya'll kan let that there marinate up 'er in yer nogginz for a lil while!

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Crazy..i got there around 1 something and I got searched once by a gurl and 
az i wuz about to go in 2 of the guyz working there INSISTED they re-search 
me and then had a thing with grabbin my azz...i thought that wuz kinda odd 
-Nicci


In a message dated 2/2/00 4:52:32 AM !!!First Boot!!!, 
keepdamwalive@yahoo.com writes:

<< if some woman even thought bout diggin in the cups of my bra i'd knock her
 ass out!  forrealz  i can't believe she put up with that shit! 
 
 when i got there, no girls were being searched AT ALL.  it was girls here
 and boys there. and alla the boyz were being searched.
 
 fun party tho.  thought we were gonna die on the way...but we got there. 
 fookin snow. >>

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In a message dated 2/2/00 5:35:02 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Steviet069@aol.com 
writes:

<< actually i posted that cuz i thought it wuz funny as shit that 
 my new roomies are going to be very similar to that cheezy 
 sitcom "three's company"...except we're gonna be the millenium 
 version...instead of being servers, my roomies are models (one
 nude)...and i'll be their 'pimp' =) ...can't beat dat!!
  >>

Arugh Stevie..Just becauze I model with my clothez on doez not make a big 
difference! teehee
Besidez..
I Dunt know..
-Nicci

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----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:37 AM
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> I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of
> religous philosophy in a attempt to show that conciousness MUST exist in
> order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot off
> any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).

Check out Descartes. In his philosphical discussions, he questions reality
to such a fundamental level that he must question his own existence.  He
realizes that, simply because of the fact that he is able to ask such
questions and contemplate such thoughts, he must at least be *something*.
Because he is able to have thoughts, he knows that he must exist.  Hence the
phrase, "I think, therefore I am."

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On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 Kcaj123@aol.com wrote:
> don't talk to me bout FVGAZI  i know the story.  i could give a shit about 
> ani difranco too.  check this out, there is an easy way and a hard way.  
> neither one is better or more right or wrong than the other, cause in my 
> opinion, the end result is exactly the same.  

No.  I would say, with very little doubt in my mind, that the "hard" way
is the "better" way for anybody who feels strongly about their art and
their message.  As soon as you sign to a major your ideals and your music
neessarily get polluted.  Majors are only concerned with the bottom line,
and if that means fucking somebody over, including you, then so be it.
They will make you sacrifice the quality of your work so that it sells
more product.  They will screw you out of your own money so that you
actually owe them money after a record comes out.  Check out a great
article by Steve Albini, a major producer (Led Zepellin, Nirvana, PJ
Harvey, Bush, Veruca Salt, tons of great indie bands, etc.) and musician
(Big Black, Rape Man, Shellac) if you don't believe me:
http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

  When you are on a major label, the majority of
the money that kids spend on your music goes to rich old bastards sitting
in their summer homes in the Cayman Islands cheating on their wives or a
board room in New York signing something that will layoff 1,000 workers or
tear down some low-income housing to put up a Tower Records store that
caters to the "black community."  On top of this

> so if you think you are too
> underground or sumthin to sign with someone big, well, fuck you, don't 
> complain about it when you can't sell shit.  

And when you sign to a major, I'll complain that all you are selling is
shit.  


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In a message dated 00-02-02 02:56:08 EST, you write:

<< > so if you think you are too
 > underground or sumthin to sign with someone big, well, fuck you, don't 
 > complain about it when you can't sell shit.  
 
 And when you sign to a major, I'll complain that all you are selling is
 shit.  
  >>


first off, mr. atomoly, you may have read that wrong.  but actually i think i 
typed it wrong.  when i typed the word, "you" i was not referring to you, 
atomoly, as an individual, i was just using the word to set up an example.  i 
hope you understood that cause i would never say that shit cause this is just 
some stupid mail list and not sumthin i gets riled up about enough to start 
bringin insults.    :)

but really, in this case, what exactly defines a major label?  like is 
astralwerks a major?  good looking?  are any of the labels in the rekkid shop 
that sell shit all over the world majors?  or are you jus talkin bout like 
sony virgin tommyboy CASH MONEY !!!  no limit  ....well you know what i mean. 
 cuz isn't a rekkid label jus something you do business with cause you don;'t 
have enough money to press like 5000 records and distribute?  or do they 
really have said 'creative control'  ?

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>
> Check out Descartes. In his philosphical discussions, he questions reality
> to such a fundamental level that he must question his own existence.  He
> realizes that, simply because of the fact that he is able to ask such
> questions and contemplate such thoughts, he must at least be *something*.
> Because he is able to have thoughts, he knows that he must exist.  Hence
the
> phrase, "I think, therefore I am."

ok i'm with descartes
right up until the end...

i think therefore i am...

what does it mean to think?

how about

i relate therefore i am


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 08:14:44 2000
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2000 Kcaj123@aol.com wrote:
> first off, mr. atomoly, you may have read that wrong.  but actually i think i 
> typed it wrong.  when i typed the word, "you" i was not referring to you, 
> atomoly, as an individual, i was just using the word to set up an example.  i 
> hope you understood that cause i would never say that shit cause this is just 
> some stupid mail list and not sumthin i gets riled up about enough to start 
> bringin insults.    :)

Yea, I'm not attacking you personally, but rather this future you on a
major label.  Don't worry about it.  :)

> but really, in this case, what exactly defines a major label?  like is 
> astralwerks a major?  good looking?  are any of the labels in the rekkid shop 
> that sell shit all over the world majors?  or are you jus talkin bout like 
> sony virgin tommyboy CASH MONEY !!!  no limit  ....

Well, most labels, even the ones that you think are indie, are owned by
majors now anyway...  Take for example Astralwerks... They seem small
enough...  But then you realize they're owned by Caroline... Then you
realize that the Smashing Pumpkins came out on Caroline (Lull), they can't
be that small!  Then, with a little more investigation, you can find out
that Caroline is indeed owned by Virgin Records...  Well they're fucking
huge!  But wait, it gets worse, Virgin Records is owned by the Virgin
MegaCorporation...  Same people the run the airlines and hotels...  So the
same people that bring us u-Ziq bring us d'Angelo and Lenny Kravitz,
whether most people know it or not.

> well you know what i mean. 
>  cuz isn't a rekkid label jus something you do business with cause you don;'t 
> have enough money to press like 5000 records and distribute?  or do they 
> really have said 'creative control'  ?

Well, that was the original intent for them, but then record companies
realized that since they're putting up the money, they have a bit of a
say.  And if they make the music sound like what the kids like these days,
they'll make a bigger return on their money...  

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2000 01:37:08 EST, Adam Meadows wrote:

>
>Anyway, I wont take LSD any more becuase I am a skeptic by nature and I 
>began asking WAAAAAAAAAY too many questions after the second time I did it 
>("how do I KNOW reality is real" type shit ;)...
>


Aw, don't stop now.  That's when it gets -really- good ! =)

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Hey, just an FYI!

I'm absolutely FED UP with Netscape and it's slow ass!
So, I have an AOL account up and running!  So, any one
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In a message dated 2/2/0 6:38:18 AM, adam wrote:

<<The psychologists that were most directly involved with its 
testing seemed to be very enthusiastic about what it could do.  
And yet they admitted that it was very difficult to predict its 
reactions in patients.>>

different minds...different reactions...different strokes for
different folks...such is the unpredictability of the mind more
so than the drug itself...since the drug itself is not the variable
...IT IS the mind...alas, this is what makes us individuals...and
after seeing the movie ANTZ (computer graphic children's
movie with adult themes and a multi-faceted cast) one can
easily see the importance of individuality (and even more so
the importance of constantly questioning the status quo)...perhaps
this is why the almighty endowed us with our unique souls, for
individually slowly changing the status quo throughout time for
the benefit of mankind...and perhaps lsd is just a catalyst for a
very select few to spark that fire within...just don't let it get
to the point as displayed in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas...

<<A similair balance seems to exist between creativity and what I can only 
describe as "cohesion of thought."  When high, I feel an order of magnitude 
more creative (creativity defined here as the ability to formulate novel 
ideas and explanations) but with a NECESSARY trade off in thought cohesion 
(thought cohesion can best be described as the ability to link correct ideas 
logically).  Its almost like light and dark.  A room cant be perfectly light 
and pitch dark at the same time, it would be a contradiction of terms.  Of 
course there can be varying levels of illumination, but the room can only 
get lighter if it gets less dark.>>

ergo...yin and yang...the balance between light and darkness...
(good v. evil, truth v. lies, knowledge v. ignorance, creation v.
destruction) the constant "battle" between the two...yet, one can 
not survive without the other...interesting choice of words: varying 
degrees of illumination...varying levels of enlightenment?

<<So can one only become more creative if ones thoughts become less cohesive? 
 
It seems one could argue this pretty convincingly and would be interesting 
if this were true, but I refuse to conclude this on the basis of two mind 
states, sober/marijuana intoxication, both originating from the same 
individual.  My knowledge of other peoples LSD experiences seems to confirm 
the hypothesis; they appear to recieve heightened creativity at the cost of 
being able to construct a logically compatible explanation to unite the 
creative thoughts with reality (ig: "Conciousness is logically necessary 
because it is awareness of anything"  Something i wrote once while high, but 
what does it mean!!  I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of 
religous philosophy in a attempt to show that conciousness MUST exist in 
order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot off 
any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).>>

it's the battle between the left and right side of yur brain
...the creative side vs. the logical side...obviously some
people tend to be more left brained, while others tend to
be more right brained...

<<But then consider those people who are math geniuses.  They seem to 
simultaneously think creatively AND link their ideas logically and 
coherently.  Maybe they think creatively on M/W/F and then logically 
assmeble their "insights" on T/R/S and then rest on sunday?  Maybe they have 
more control of this ability and are able to switch between "creative" and 
"logical" mode so quickly that the two meld into an indivorcable behavior.  
Like flashing the light switch on and off so quickly that the room is 
absolutely dark and absoultely light simultaneously....>>

interesting example, i went to school with a nationally ranked
math genius, who was bumped a rank when the 5th ranked math
pupil blew himself while designing a pipe bomb!!...oh yes, my
friend enjoyed the occasional trip, however ended up being a
very mundane college math professor (he was obviously overly
logic oriented still)...another interesting example: the rapid
flicking of light...a strobe light...and the robotic appearance it
gives to bodies in motion...and the trend of virtual reality
becoming more & more life like...a whole new topic all together...

<<Anyway, I wont take LSD any more becuase I am a skeptic by nature 
and I began asking WAAAAAAAAAY too many questions after the second 
time I did it ("how do I KNOW reality is real" type shit ;)...>>

ahhh, the first step toward questioning "the matrix"...now
tie this in with what we had discussed previously and the
importance of individualism as portrayed in the movie ANTZ
and you're on your way toward the prophesized spiritual 
awakening within...discovering your personal jesus if you will
...steps toward personal enlightenment...welcome back to the light, 
mateee...


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that doesn't change the fact that that column was called "rage against the 
machine" and he might have just as well stolen it for the inside out album.

on a side note... i saw the "no spiritual surrender" 7" on revelation
last weekend at some record store in liverpool....  7 pounds!! no way!

chad

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> << actually... not to nitpick, but there's alot of evidence that they
>  stole the name from a column that Kent McClard used to write in 
>  MaximumRocknRoll, back in the days when Zach de la Rocha sang for
>  a mediocre straightedge band called Inside Out. >>
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In a message dated 2/2/0 8:12:10 AM, adam wrote:

<<ok i'm with descartes

right up until the end...


i think therefore i am...


what does it mean to think?


how about


i relate therefore i am>>

before finalizing any decisions,
also look into kant, jung, redfield,
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--- godfoot@juno.com wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:28:35 -0800 (PST) William
> Adams
> <insanityfr@yahoo.com> writes:
> > We all bitch and complain about who's running the
> > govenment and we all act like it's the
> government's
> > fault that things are so screwed up...but's it's
> not
> > their fault, it's your's (as in the citizens of
> the
> > US).  WE elect our leaders.  
> 
> True, but we have no control over the fact that our
> elected
> officials may become corrupted by numerous sources
> (if they
> aren't fronting already) once in office.
> This picture is not so black and white as you
> portray it.
> 
> Peace and love,
> 
> Mike aka Dr. Bläsé
> http://drop.to/waxmasters
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You're right, alot of government officials have become
corrupt over the years because there's no
accountability.  In a time when our economy is better
than ever, people tend to focus less on what our
governement is doing.  If there were bigger turn outs
at the polls and more people actively involved in
politics there'd be a sense of accountability amoung
electable government officials.

--Will

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But to have the power to think, is to have the power
to realize ones existence, think about it.

--- adam_louis <adam_louis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Check out Descartes. In his philosphical
> discussions, he questions reality
> > to such a fundamental level that he must question
> his own existence.  He
> > realizes that, simply because of the fact that he
> is able to ask such
> > questions and contemplate such thoughts, he must
> at least be *something*.
> > Because he is able to have thoughts, he knows that
> he must exist.  Hence
> the
> > phrase, "I think, therefore I am."
> 
> ok i'm with descartes
> right up until the end...
> 
> i think therefore i am...
> 
> what does it mean to think?
> 
> how about
> 
> i relate therefore i am
> 
> 
> adam
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that was Martin Lee author of "Acid Dreams", which if you're interested in the
complex history of LSD, is THE book to read on the subject.

AzureRecs@aol.com wrote:

> i just found it EXTREMELY interesting ANd surprising that one of the main
> Historian of the program (i forgot his name)... at the end of the program
> said..
>
> "in a culture that accepts the manipulation of our consciousness, our psychy
> from so many different agents from prozac to valium to caffeine to chocolate
> to whatever...is there a place for LSD?..............Yea, i think their
> should be."
>
> ya'll kan let that there marinate up 'er in yer nogginz for a lil while!
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yes, if you grub on Descartes, read Kant; one of the last and most
enlightening classical philosophers...he makes a lot more sense by
throwing out the idea of "intuitive truths".

Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/2/0 8:12:10 AM, adam wrote:
>
> <<ok i'm with descartes
>
> right up until the end...
>
> i think therefore i am...
>
> what does it mean to think?
>
> how about
>
> i relate therefore i am>>
>
> before finalizing any decisions,
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> even einstein are all vital points
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Happy Even Day, everyone.  We havn't had an even day since Dec 28th, 
888.  The last odd day was back in Nov 11th, 1999..

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hehe, just wanted to share, thought it was funny.



> ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822 
> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:44:44 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re:  [mw] NOT PUMPS!
> To: Steviet069@aol.com
> 
> just wondering if im still being filtered.
> thax stevie ol buddy buddy
> 
> --- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > In a message dated 2/1/0 11:51:47 PM, pedro wrote:
> > 
> > <<IT's NOT PUMPS, its a penile exercise manual
> that
> > has won 
> > many awards and has been recommended by many
> > doctors!  It works!
> > 
> > 
> > -Senior grande cocko>>
> > 
> > <stevie yanks the self-incriminating mw-raves
> idiot
> > of the month
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Adam Meadows wrote:

> I watched it and found it very interesting.  They gave it a fair, unbiased
> treatment which I of course expect from a channel claiming to represent
> history as accurately as possible.  Still, I expected more negative input on
> the supposed dangers of the drug...

They skipped a lot, but I was very proud that they didn't focus on Leary and
Kesey (too much).  Too many thoughts on the subject matter end up over-examining
the people involved, and forsake what was actually causing and changing them.  I
was hoping for a little more on results found from testing with mental patients,
writers, artist and great thinkers.

> Watching it got me thinking...
>
> The psychologists that were most directly involved with its testing seemed
> to be very enthusiastic about what it could do.  And yet they admitted that
> it was very difficult to predict its reactions in patients.
>
> Do you think that it is a necessary quality of a powerful psychedelic drug
> to be unpredictable/uncontrollable?

No, the experiences are very controllable, once you understand what's
happening.  There are two driving factors to the hallucinogenic experience,
first you're environment and second, your mind.  Your environment is more
crucial to the effect that it feeds your experience; your mind can only be more
crucial in the event that you have weird psychoses and complexes to overcome.

>  Is that a crucial feature of what makes
> it so potent (that is, if experiences were NOT unpredictable then the drug
> COULD NOT be as potent as a drug like LSD which has the potential for
> negative AND positive effects)?  Perhaps the cerebral crotex's inability to
> control and coordinate the brain whole IS the psychedelic experience.

Somewhat...

In your brainstem, all your sensory impulses make their way thru to be
acknowledged by the brain.  But in the brainstem is a filter which uses
seratonin (acting as a neuro-inhibitor) to stop most of the impulses before
hitting grey matter.  Only about 6-8% of all impulses make it to your brain,
those being the ones deemed necessary for day-to-day functioning.  The matter of
which impulses are inhibited is something decided during your developmental
stages as a baby.

Lsd makes the seratonin in your brainstem unable to do their job for awhile,
allowing upwards of 10-12% of all impulses through.  These are the impulses your
brain has previously deemed unnecessary and distracting to the regular process
of thinking.  That's what's coming thru when you trip, and it's a lot to take
in.

It is important to remember that these impulses are not random firings, but
actual sensory data...the brain is just not sure how to process them.  This
causes confusion, inability to function, mental wandering and heightened
perspective.  But if you realize that you're just feeling a lot more than
normal, then you're more able to control your experience.  Even more so by
optimizing your environment and the people you're with, and of course, with
continued practice with the drug.

Even with realizing this, you cannot logically focus and observe on this
newfound sensorium...trying to do brings about frustration.  You have to be able
to let go, and metaphysically 'shoot from the hip'.

LSD definitely needs to be re-opened for testing, it's an amazing tool that goes
*way* beyond visuals and music...it allows the brain to observe itself, it
allows a peek at a sub-level of reality, and it truly has the potential to
change the world.  I think they (the guvment) know that, and that's why it's
schedule1 and over-demonized.  "It'll make you crazy!!!"

> A similair balance seems to exist between creativity and what I can only
> describe as "cohesion of thought."  When high, I feel an order of magnitude
> more creative (creativity defined here as the ability to formulate novel
> ideas and explanations) but with a NECESSARY trade off in thought cohesion
> (thought cohesion can best be described as the ability to link correct ideas
> logically).  Its almost like light and dark.  A room cant be perfectly light
> and pitch dark at the same time, it would be a contradiction of terms.  Of
> course there can be varying levels of illumination, but the room can only
> get lighter if it gets less dark.
>
> So can one only become more creative if ones thoughts become less cohesive?
> It seems one could argue this pretty convincingly and would be interesting
> if this were true, but I refuse to conclude this on the basis of two mind
> states, sober/marijuana intoxication, both originating from the same
> individual.  My knowledge of other peoples LSD experiences seems to confirm
> the hypothesis; they appear to recieve heightened creativity at the cost of
> being able to construct a logically compatible explanation to unite the
> creative thoughts with reality (ig: "Conciousness is logically necessary
> because it is awareness of anything"  Something i wrote once while high, but
> what does it mean!!  I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of
> religous philosophy in a attempt to show that conciousness MUST exist in
> order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot off
> any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).
>
> But then consider those people who are math geniuses.  They seem to
> simultaneously think creatively AND link their ideas logically and
> coherently.  Maybe they think creatively on M/W/F and then logically
> assmeble their "insights" on T/R/S and then rest on sunday?  Maybe they have
> more control of this ability and are able to switch between "creative" and
> "logical" mode so quickly that the two meld into an indivorcable behavior.
> Like flashing the light switch on and off so quickly that the room is
> absolutely dark and absoultely light simultaneously....
>
> Anyway, I wont take LSD any more becuase I am a skeptic by nature and I
> began asking WAAAAAAAAAY too many questions after the second time I did it
> ("how do I KNOW reality is real" type shit ;)...

That's when you know you're getting somewhere, and actually gaining value from
the process.  It may often feel like an exercise in futility and frustration,
but after awhile you become aware of a new system of logic that does not require
revalations or creative insight to be written down or expressed to others, but
only secretly revered and understood, even if only consciously for but a
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>So the same people that bring us u-Ziq bring us d'Angelo and Lenny 
> >Kravitz,whether most people know it or not.

so, does that mean that all that u-ziq sells is shit?  does Royal Astronomy 
sacrifice the quality of their work?  are mr. paradinas' ideals and music 
now polluted?

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, jon dica! wrote:
> so, does that mean that all that u-ziq sells is shit?  does Royal Astronomy 
> sacrifice the quality of their work?  are mr. paradinas' ideals and music 
> now polluted?

Yep.  Expect his cover of "American Woman" by the end of the year.   :P

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heh my bad.

try emailing m-nus at:

x@m-nus.com

or try:

m-nus.com/bookings


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Hey everyone, Its Wednesday again, time to tell yall
about the linup for this thursday.
This thursday we have the KG man of techno himself 
Hypo here to bring you some of the sickest most
tweeked out techno to grace our speakers.
Also, the jump-up king of St. Louis, Jumpstart with a
selection of bouncy basslines to keep you woooblin all
night.
As always the coffee house starts at 9 and ends at 12,
make sure to bring your id because it is 18 and up.
also, we will be uping the entry fee from $2 to $3,
because we really are in dire need of and upgrade in
our equipment.
I hope to see you all there, 
the directions are as follows
take 44 or 40 to the grand exit
go south on grand, past tower grove park (it will be
on your right)
after you pass the park, it is going to be about 4
more blocks down on the right hand side, between
Connecticut and Wyoming streets
right across from the Amaco.
If you get lost you can call the South Grand Coffee
house at 314-865-2326
Thank you, see you there.

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FROM 0 TO 1
SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2000   8PM - 5AM

RICHIE HAWTIN

CLARK WARNER

THEOREM

VINCE WOOLUMS

SCOTT STONE

MISHUGGAH

Iowa Memorial Union, U of I Campus, Iowa City, Iowa

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 18:25:00 2000
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i don't seem to understand. isn't every other day that is not an odd day
an even day. fuck! my numerology is all fucked up today!so isn't feb 4, 6,
8, 10, 12, etc even days?


On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, JayPee wrote:

> Happy Even Day, everyone.  We havn't had an even day since Dec 28th, 
> 888.  The last odd day was back in Nov 11th, 1999..
> 
> Oh yeah.. It's Groundhog Day, as well.. bleah..
> 
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> But you must become drunk."
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>that was Martin Lee author of "Acid Dreams", which if
you're interested
>in the complex history of LSD, is THE book to read on
the subject.

A couple of other good reads on the topic (or similar
to it) are:

The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley
Storming Heaven, Jay Stevens

The latter is a thick read and rather slow and dry at
spots, but if you're a history buff you'll probably
get into it.  "Doors of Perception" was pretty good,
and let me rethink lots of worldly, um, perceptions. 
It's like reading an erudite diary of someone's
mescalin trip.

Cheers,
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[>I was wondering if anyone has information on how I can contact
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Just kneel down and pray--god is always listening.

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Wendy's.

On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Jonathan Voigt wrote:

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where's the trance?


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where's the beef?

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> where's the trance?

FUCK TRANCE.

bom shankar!
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hey guys, i heard a rumor that dj funk got shot last week in a drug deal...
anyone know if this is true?!?

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LET ME HEAR A T
LET ME HEAR AN R
LET ME HEAR AN A
LET ME HEAR AN N
LET ME HEAR A C
LET ME HEAR AN E

FUCKING BLOWS HORSE DICK

misha :)

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> hey guys, i heard a rumor that dj funk got shot last week in a drug deal...
> anyone know if this is true?!?

hey i called gramaphone and they confirmed.  they said richie had
something to do w/ it???
on a different note:
are the molecules real?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 19:35:51 2000
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where's the rhetoric?


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DUDE!!! NO!!!

but see, I heard he was goin down on some chick and choked on a mud shrimp

can anyone confirm this?


: hey guys, i heard a rumor that dj funk got shot last week in a drug
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where's the rave?



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> > where's the trance?

<VHN> hey mmmichael, trance sucks!



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Right here.

;)


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On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

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wow!!! that was insightful!

spare me...

shiva

>You all suck, in 5 months everyone on here will be gone and 2,000 new idiots
>will be posting lame ass shit to the list, so why don't you all go to hell!!
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>
>>Take Christina Aguilera for
>>example. "what a girl wants, what a girl needs". How
>>incredibly deep and penetrating!
>
>i'll show christina aguilera "deep and penetrating".  the only thing that 
>girl wants and needs is my dick pounding her mercilessly.  unF.
>

further proof that the male mentality hasn't progressed much since we crawled out of the primordial ooze.  

keep yer slobbering testosterone-induced comments to yerself...

shiva

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I know of a lotta kidz goin to this partee. Hopefully I'll be one of em. 

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i don't know about dj funk, but

	JAMES BROWN IS DEAD


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 20:11:18 2000
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hey, last friday someone from miami u gave me a tape of this cat, 
"goodvibe".  i don't normally get into prog house but i must say that this 
tape is totally jammin so far.  i'm only like 3/4 thru the first side, but 
still.  all the tunes are super pretty.  so there, i like some prog house.  ha!

anyway, check this guy out.  good shit!

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>
>keep yer slobbering testosterone-induced comments to yerself...

*sing-songy voice* some-body's jeal-ous!

hahahahahhaha.  please, stop hating on me just cos i have a penis.  thanks!

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tus pantalones es muy muy grande!  donde esta el rave?

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>
> 
>Since they've made certain decisions(some bad maybe) to get their music and
>message to the masses, they're not true artists?  You're blowing off some
>of the rawest most innovative music of our generation because of the label
>they chose to sign to.  If you really believe that's it's all an act then
>that's your right to believe that.  I've read and watched everything I
>could get my hands on in the last eight years even semi-related to Rage and
>all I've ever heard from them is dedication.  Dedication to their music
>simply because it's a means to get across their message.  
>
>
>  Kevin 

actually kevin, i'm not trying to negate what they've done, i just question how deeply the conviction goes when the puppetmaster's hand controls the funds.  it's a valid criticism, especially given the influence that corporate money has over our society today.  

take a deeper look into the issue of campaign finance reform, the WTO and how much corporate money is influencing public policy today, and tell me that the same money isn't going to influence artists (even those with convictions, as i do believe RITM have) if it means their bread and butter could disappear.

i'm not saying that RITM have ever kept their mouths shut by Sony's request (in fact, i admire many of the things they HAVE done).  i'm just saying that when someone gets close to the real truth, the leash WILL get shorter.  the machine is a controlling machine.  and it hates to have its existence threatened, dig?

and, by the way, i have been following this discussion, kevin.  i just happen to have a viewpoint that i decided to share.  ain't free speech a bitch?

shiva

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Fuck you dude...
>
>: hey guys, i heard a rumor that dj funk got shot last week in a drug
>deal...
>: anyone know if this is true?!?
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>: chris


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>don't talk to me bout FVGAZI  i know the story.  i could give a shit about 
>ani difranco too.  check this out, there is an easy way and a hard way.  
>neither one is better or more right or wrong than the other, cause in my 
>opinion, the end result is exactly the same.  so if you think you are too 
>underground or sumthin to sign with someone big, well, fuck you, don't 
>complain about it when you can't sell shit. 

i don't hear ani d. complaining about NOT selling records...hmmm...

 if sony came knockin on my door 
>offereing me millions to do my thing with their money, fuck the "underground" 
>or whatever you call it.  cause all i really want to do is let as many people 
>as possible be influenced by my music, so you do the dog and pony show and 
>some magazines and tv and shit.  who the fuck cares, its better than sitting 
>behind a desk 40 hours a week being a yes man.  

you'll still be a "yes" man...you just won't be wearing a suit...

same difference...

enjoy your slavery...



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 20:36:02 2000
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>and  you all talk trash even though they do more in one day to help 
>suffereing people "rage" than any of us will ever do. 

i work EVERY DAY as an activist, for barely enough to make a living.  i do what i do with little or no recognition or fanfare.  who cares?  i do.

 this part gets me the 
>most.  its not like they AREN'T helping people.  its not like they AREN'T 
>trying hard to make a difference.  its just that you all for some reason 
>can't see past this sony label bullshit.

i do think they've brought a lot of issues to the forefront of young americans' consciousness, but for every new activist born, there's a frat boy rapist yelling "fuck you i won't do what you tell me!".  

my question was, and still is, if you are CONTRIBUTING and/or TAKING MONEY (and subsequently, POWER) FROM/TO THE MACHINE, how can you fight the oppression that is DIRECTLY CONTROLLED BY THE MACHINE?  this is not a take on the name, it is a direct challenge to the politics. 

 all of us, to some extent, contribute to the machine.  we all buy gasoline to fuel our cars, and we spend money on corporate made products every day.  but when you start to realize what you're contributing to, you can make a concerted effort to take your money elsewhere, or at least, not take blood money from the corporate machine.

i worked for mcdonalds.  i've worked for marathon.  once i realized where my money was coming from, i left.  

so if you want to suckle at the corporate teat, be my guest.  just understand where the money comes from; and understand how it truly affects you and the world around you.

shiva

p.s. i will agree that their music is good.  i dig it.  it's fun to scream along to.  ;p

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cant confirm this but it sounds better

tim



DUDE!!! NO!!!

but see, I heard he was goin down on some chick and
choked on a mud shrimp

can anyone confirm this?


: hey guys, i heard a rumor that dj funk got shot last
week in a drug
deal...
: anyone know if this is true?!?
:
: chris



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The Light Fantastik Web site has been updated
with new pictures and additional references.

www.angelfire.com/wi/LightFantastik

Upcoming shows:

Fri Feb 4th - Delta - Madison
Sat Feb 12th - Menage A Trois - Madison
Fri Feb 18th - Frostbite - Minneapolis (tentative)
Sat Mar 11th - Rave Nuts - Milwaukee
Sat Mar 18th - Plantations Event TBA - Madison
Sat April 1st - Eucalyptus Event TBA - Madison
Sat April 8th - Drop Bass/Eucalyptus Event TBA - Madison
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Book your shows now to secure your date !
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 20:43:28 2000
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So, I guess a few of you don't like trance, but for those of you who do...
=)
We at Safari Media have been doing a tour for a few months now called
"Caelum" featuring our DJs/Artists Markus Schulz (Plastik) and Andy Hughes
(Mafddap).  The "Emerald Ball" leg of this tour will be hitting Chicago on
April 29th.  
Everything is still in the planning stages, and I will announce more info
when it comes along.
A little background on me... I am an event coordinator for Safari Media,
which is a multimedia company out of Arizona.  I also operate a business
with my partner Inertia- the Dream Music record label/ booking agency.  On
top of that I manage the AZ-Raves website, and have a slew of other
hobbies like photography, writing, art... and soon I'll be a continuing
college student.
I was born outside of Chicago, and haven't been there since visiting in
1991 or so, but I have family there, and hope to make this April trip a
personal one as well as for business (althought the business will be fun).
=)
So, if any of you have any questions, suggestions (I'm taking requests for
a headliner), etc, feel free to call me.  I'll be on this list until after
our event.

Thanks for listening, and I'm looking forward to your thoughts! =)


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>
>actually kevin, i'm not trying to negate what they've done, i just 
>question how deeply the conviction goes when the puppetmaster's hand 
>controls the funds

my favourite puppet was drillhead.  man the first puppetmaster was wicked, 
even puppetmaster 2 was good but christ someone told me they saw like 
puppetmaster 6 on USA or sommat?  that's crazy, are there really that many?!

>i'm not saying that RITM have ever kept their mouths shut by Sony's request

bahaha you did it again!  coming soon on sony:  "guerrilla radio" (david 
christopher's 'the slo-breaks of los angeles' rmx)



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Subject: [mw] rah rah rah sis boom bah
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gimme a c
C
gimme an h
H
gimme an e
E
gimme another e
E
gimme an s
S
gimme one more e
E
WHATS THAT SPELL!!
TRANCE!!!
WHATS THAT SPELL!!!
TRANCE!!!
WHATS THAT SPELL!!!!
TRANCE!!!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY TRANCE
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Where are my pants?

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>>
>>keep yer slobbering testosterone-induced comments to yerself...
>
>*sing-songy voice* some-body's jeal-ous!
>
>hahahahahhaha.  please, stop hating on me just cos i have a penis.  thanks!
>

honey, i don't hate you cuz you have a penis (i have THREE myself)...

i hate that you think talking about "pounding Christine Aguilera" is interesting enough (or intelligent enough) to pass on to the rest of the class...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 02 21:10:23 2000
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why we patdown at the door -
we try to avoid drugs at our parties and we have to have a patdown, those
were harvey police
we hired for the night.   we don't want to see anyone od or die at one of
our events so we keep
everything as tight as possible.  because we do care about the scene.
i didn't see anyone there off the list except jackie (panked for you aolers)
hyperactive was boring?  i thought he tore shit up   wicked beat juggling
you just cant hang with the minimal/hard techno  :p
sy, brisk & storm were good,  they both were holding back a little bit
and both of them have never played together on 2x4
our next event, end of may, we are bringing them back
which they will have practice, since they both just moved their studios in
together

dj rush set was good, the eq on the photon room mixer wasnt working,  thanks
to andy
for the setup on that one >:)

anyhow i've heard nothing but good responses about it.
look for our next event in may.
it was nice meeting you michael knight.  your a punkass

-gruve

----- Original Message -----
From: Fergus <fergus@primenet.com>

> Almost didn't go.  The weather in Indiana was scary.  Fortunately things
> got better the closer we got to Chicago.  Got to the net meet around
> 7:45...fortunately everyone was still there :)  Wasn't as many people as
> the one before Bonkers but it was still a lot of fun :)  Boppity and
> Paul...it was great meeting both of you...you guys are awesome :D  Paul,
> thanks for buying me and my boyee water at the party :D  Prasad...lookin
> sexy as usual ;p
>
> Got to the party and was in the door within 10 minutes.  Thankfully cuz I
> left my coat in the car....sacrificed warmth for convenience and cuteness
> ;p  Security was pretty relaxed when I got there...the woman that searched
> me was really nice...she looked like a cop...all she did was grope my
> pockets and ask me what everything was...didn't make me take anything out.
>
> Went to go pay for our tickets...and the following took place:
>
> Briank (my guy): *hands ticket guy 3 $20'*
> Ticket Guy: You want 3 tickets?
> Briank: No, only two
> Fergus: Unless they are supposed to be $20 and that's why you think we
want
> 3...since we gave you 3 $20's.
> Ticket Guy: *evil look at fergus*  *says nothing*
>
> Bah.  I think it's really shitty that tickets weren't sold out of state.
> And don't give me that "you can give yer credit card #" blah blah
bullshit.
>  I'm not giving my credit card # out over the phone...and for me to send a
> mail order and expect my tickets back within 6 days...it wasn't going to
> happen.
>
> But anyways.
>
> The venue was AWESOME.  Altho I'm wondering how many people slipped and
> fell on those steep walkways...with all the flyers and stuff lying around
> :o  Listened and danced to Brisk's "house" set.  If that's house...the mw
> needs more of it.  There was actually a beat ;p
>
> Didn't even know there was a "second" room til about 11:30 when Prasad
came
> and rescued me and my guy from some god-awful-I-don't-want-to-know-what
> that was being played.  Altho since I was sitting on the speaker...the
> vibrations did feel pretty good on my ass ;p  Followed Prasad to the other
> room...walked in...and didn't leave for the rest of the night.  The set up
> was INCREDIBLE.  The speakers kicked ass, the lighting kicked ass, the
size
> of the room kicked ass.  To me it was exactly the kind of place a party
> should be held at.
>
> Delta 9 beat my ass.  If I was a guy I would have had a serious hard-on
> throughout his entire set.  I have two hurt knees, a hurt lower back, and
a
> very sore neck but GODDAMMIT I HAD FUN.  I don't remember the last time I
> heard a hardcore set that good...probably when I saw him in Arizona like 3
> or 4 years ago.
>
> Hyperactive played way to fucking long.  I was nearly in tears from
> boredom.  And what the hell was up with all those backspins?  Geezus at
> least make em sound good...not like some horrific screech.
>
> Sy and Brisk.  Ya know...I can bitch about the ticket price all I
> want...but when it comes right down to it...I would have paid ANY amount
of
> money to see my guy as happy as he looked when they started playing.  I
> never thought I would cry at a party...but when the person you love with
> all your heart...the person who is your soul mate...is standing there
> singing "you will always be the love of my life, the love of my life, you
> will always be the one that I want" to you...it was kind of hard not to
> cry.  God help me I'm in love with a happy hardcore fiend.  *swoon* :D
>
> To be honest...I didn't enjoy their set as much as I enjoyed Sy's at
> Bonkers.  It didn't seem to have that "oomph" that I like.  But they still
> played quite a few of my favorite songs :)
>
> Left after that.  The drive home wasn't as bad as the drive up.
> Fortunately it had stopped snowing.
>
> My throat is sore.  One too many "fuck yeahs!" on my party during D-9 I
> guess :P
>
> Michael it was great seeing you again :)  If possible I'd like a copy of
> that pic you took of me and brian :)
>
> We took a whole roll of pictures...maybe one of these days I'll post em.
I
> think Prasad took a group pic of the net meet...I want a copy of that one
> too please :)
>
> Ok I think that's it...overall I had a blast.  I honestly don't think I've
> ever had that much fun at a party before.  Being able to hug the speakers
> with my guy...it was an amazing experience :D
>
> fergus :D
>
> Oh yeah...I was the girl wearing the blue T-shirt with the hippo on it
that
> said "hip" under it, and sometimes a black sweatshirt over that...my hair
> was in a ponytail.  :P
>
>
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In a message dated 2/2/00 9:05:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!, j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com 
writes:

<< gimme a c
 C
 gimme an h
 H
 gimme an e
 E
 gimme another e
 E
 gimme an s
 S
 gimme one more e
 E >>

Cheese?!?!!? YUM! *runz to kitchen and grabz sum string cheese*
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>
>honey, i don't hate you cuz you have a penis (i have THREE myself)...

i'm afraid to ask, and yet strangely curious as to what's going on with 
you, in a genetic sense...


>i hate that you think talking about "pounding Christine Aguilera" is 
>interesting enough (or intelligent enough) to pass on to the rest of the 
>class...

well this _is_ mw-raves-cute-tummies-masturbatory-fantasies-blondes, isn't 
it?!?



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I'm a little confused... I always see these guys with jungle DJs calling
themselves "McThis" and "McThat". Recently I saw "McBrace", and he talked
really fast about smoking bongs n shit (hell yeah bro, smoke bongz in the
'00...2FUTURE4U), like maybe he was scottish n shit. So my question is: do
you have to be scottish in order to "rap" over jungle? What if you are only
partially scottish? What if your last name is Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher spelling* then?

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>>i'm not saying that RITM have ever kept their mouths shut by Sony's request
>
>bahaha you did it again!  coming soon on sony:  "guerrilla radio" (david 
>christopher's 'the slo-breaks of los angeles' rmx)

yeah i know...i'm kinda sleep deprived.  RATM was the acronym i was looking for.  that one crept into my head quite unexpectedly.

i've posted two apologies for this and neither have shown up in my inbox.  i think i'm missing half the posts and i don't know why.

any suggestions?

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Jonathan Voigt wrote:

> i don't know about dj funk, but
>
>         JAMES BROWN IS DEAD

I think someone should re-do that song to say "DJ.. Funk..
is... DEAD..."



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In a message dated 2/2/00 9:32:24 PM !!!First Boot!!!, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< >
 >honey, i don't hate you cuz you have a penis (i have THREE myself)...
 
 i'm afraid to ask, and yet strangely curious as to what's going on with 
 you, in a genetic sense...
 
 
 >i hate that you think talking about "pounding Christine Aguilera" is 
 >interesting enough (or intelligent enough) to pass on to the rest of the 
 >class...
 
 well this _is_ mw-raves-cute-tummies-masturbatory-fantasies-blondes, isn't 
 it?!? >>

hey! if he gets to ramble on about Christina then i should be allowed to 
ramble on about someone too! 
*ponders* forget it..i'm going back to staring at my 311 pictures..i'm such a 
dork
-nicci

-*pixee*-
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-*and if u wanna make sense..wut u looking at me for? i'm no good at MEN!*-


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No disrespect, but are you serious?  MC=move a crowd (i'm sure only mike
mccusty, entro, and a couple others will pick up on that one)...i'm sure
MC Hammer is not Scottish...maybe MC Serch...
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Brandon Ivers wrote:

> I'm a little confused... I always see these guys with jungle DJs calling
> themselves "McThis" and "McThat". Recently I saw "McBrace", and he talked
> really fast about smoking bongs n shit (hell yeah bro, smoke bongz in the
> '00...2FUTURE4U), like maybe he was scottish n shit. So my question is: do
> you have to be scottish in order to "rap" over jungle? What if you are only
> partially scottish? What if your last name is Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
> scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher spelling* then?
> 
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or what if you're scottish and "mc" isn't in your last name at all?

regardless, if it's not scottish, IT'S CRAP!

=]

mcpixie


:What if your last name is Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
: scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher spelling* then?



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hey, i have a question for you lot, especially the pb-cle kids.

it has come to my attention that the element squad will be, in fact, 
throwing transformation FREE on april 15, the same date as our upcoming 
event CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT.  their event is going to be free, and ours 
will be $15.  i don't know yet what their lineup is, but ours will be all 
happy hardcore, hardcore, jump-up and oldskool.

who thinks i should consider changing the date of my party?  it would be a 
bit of a hassle at this point, but since the element squad event is FREE i 
am kind of worried.  music is the key 2 definitely didn't hurt us, but it 
was $30 when our event was $10.

what are people's feelings on element squad? do you support their 
events?  would you support transformation over children of the night?  am i 
worried about nothing?  input?  thoughts?  thanks.

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On Wed,  2 Feb 2000 12:17:27 -0800 "djshiva" <djshiva@maxart.net> writes:
> 
> i'm not saying that RITM have ever kept their mouths shut by Sony's 
> request (in fact, i admire many of the things they HAVE done).  i'm 
> just saying that when someone gets close to the real truth, the 
> leash WILL get shorter.  the machine is a controlling machine.  and 
> it hates to have its existence threatened, dig?
> 
What does Rabbit IN the Moon have to do with this whole conversation
or has Against taken on a new spelling that the rest of the world has
not heard about?

Peace and love,

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yes


>From: "Brandon Ivers" <sluggo@visi.com>
>Reply-To: "Brandon Ivers" <sluggo@visi.com>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [mw] Is McBrace Scottish?
>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:19:50 -0600
>
>I'm a little confused... I always see these guys with jungle DJs calling
>themselves "McThis" and "McThat". Recently I saw "McBrace", and he talked
>really fast about smoking bongs n shit (hell yeah bro, smoke bongz in the
>'00...2FUTURE4U), like maybe he was scottish n shit. So my question is: do
>you have to be scottish in order to "rap" over jungle? What if you are only
>partially scottish? What if your last name is Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
>scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher spelling* then?
>
>Brandon
>
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>why we patdown at the door -
>we try to avoid drugs at our parties and we have to have a patdown, those
>were harvey police
>we hired for the night.   we don't want to see anyone od or die at one of
>our events so we keep
>everything as tight as possible.  because we do care about the scene.

the girl that patted down my friend and scooped into her bra was definitely 
not a cop.  not uniformed at least, and i doubt she was a cop at all.  she 
looked like someone who would listen to phish and get turned away at clubs.

the cops seemed pretty cool, it was funny how they were totally NOT busting 
one group of dealers, and not busting anyone they saw with those particular 
pills.  hehehehe

>i didn't see anyone there off the list except jackie (panked for you aolers)
>hyperactive was boring?  i thought he tore shit up   wicked beat juggling
>you just cant hang with the minimal/hard techno  :p

i'm not even much into techno anymore and hyperactive did tear it up, 
you're right.  he even played the todd sines record on peacefrog, the old 
one that came out in like 95.  i was all hyped, COLUMBUS REPRAZENT OHIO 
PLAYAZ FOOOOOOLLLLLZ.  hahah.  :P


>sy, brisk & storm were good,  they both were holding back a little bit
>and both of them have never played together on 2x4
>our next event, end of may, we are bringing them back
>which they will have practice, since they both just moved their studios in
>together

oh nice one!  hey why not bring the BANG! live PA, talk to paul about that 
eh mike??

>it was nice meeting you michael knight.  your a punkass

eh wot!?  i didn't meet u sir i don't think, i asked someone from your crew 
where u were but he did not know.  :P

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MC D-L-T runnin pon the mic
you know in de place we keep de sound tight
keep de hot side HOT
keep de cool side COOL
rave out with ya mates and act like a fool!

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i'm McClintock...

i rock it john wayne stylee...


> or what if you're scottish and "mc" isn't in your last name at all?
> 
> regardless, if it's not scottish, IT'S CRAP!
> 
> mcpixie
> 
> :What if your last name is Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
> : scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher spelling* then?


bom shankar!
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> i don't seem to understand. isn't every other day that is not an odd day
> an even day. fuck! my numerology is all fucked up today!so isn't feb 4, 6,
> 8, 10, 12, etc even days?

    During even-numbered years it is, but we haven't had an even numbered
year since 888...

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Chris Ege got hit for dissin MC Brace I think, you should watch out...
And stay away from me lucky charms.

At O'Malley

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Are you sure this girl who was patting down your
friend was even a part of Security? Maybe she was just
some raging lesbian who wanted to get a piece of candy
ass =)

mIsha


> the girl that patted down my friend and scooped into
> her bra was definitely 
> not a cop.  not uniformed at least, and i doubt she
> was a cop at all.  she 
> looked like someone who would listen to phish and
> get turned away at clubs.
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>     During even-numbered years it is, but we haven't had an even numbered
> year since 888...

what about 1000? what about 1998? huh? huh? Your dumb, your dumb, na na na
na

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I don't like Scotts.. they live on an island or something like that.


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> i'm sure
> MC Hammer is not Scottish...

I'm pretty sure McHammer is partially scottish actually, considering a name
like "McHammer". See, scottish last names are the titles of clans, like the
clan "McHammer" for instance. I'm minoring in Scottish studies, so I've
learned alot about stuff like that. Colllege rulez

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--- "mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:
> why we patdown at the door -
> we try to avoid drugs at our parties 

Heh.  I bet.  I went to Columbus Alive last weekend
with a prescription bottle full of yummies.  Lady
patted me down - Asked to see teh contents of my
pockets, I said okay.  So she pulled out my
keychain...  My tampon.. my necklace... my jar... 
Looked at it, put it back in my pocket.  Drug free,
it's the way to be!



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I dont know,
but if I knew it was gonna be that kinda party, I
woulda stuck my dick in tha mashed potatoes!!

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>> No disrespect, but are you serious?  MC=move a crowd (i'm sure only mike
mccusty, entro, and a couple others will pick up on that one)...i'm sure
MC Hammer is not Scottish...maybe MC Serch...
Jerry >>

honestly people are thinking mc is shorthand for misconception.

i however like referring to mc = making chumpchange.

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In a message dated 2/2/00 10:26:22 PM !!!First Boot!!!, sluggo@visi.com 
writes:

<< what about 1000? what about 1998? huh? huh? Your dumb, your dumb, na na na
 na
 
 Rage Against the Machine is the best political band EVER
 
 Brandon >>

Amen! hehehe
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    Fuck the scottish, it's all about the Irish!

    - Matt Murphy -
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> I'm a little confused... I always see these guys with jungle DJs calling
> themselves "McThis" and "McThat". Recently I saw "McBrace", and he talked
> really fast about smoking bongs n shit (hell yeah bro, smoke bongz in the
> '00...2FUTURE4U), like maybe he was scottish n shit. So my question is: do
> you have to be scottish in order to "rap" over jungle? What if you are
only
> partially scottish? What if your last name is Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
> scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher spelling* then?
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In a message dated 2/2/00 10:44:58 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Kidentropy@aol.com 
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<< honestly people are thinking mc is shorthand for misconception.
 
 i however like referring to mc = making chumpchange.
 
 entro >>

So thats where the MC in MCdonalds came from! A HA! *giggles*
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> i however like referring to mc = making chumpchange.

yeah scottish people have been notoriously poor throughout history. Quite
sad really.


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> >     During even-numbered years it is, but we haven't had an even
numbered
> > year since 888...
>
> what about 1000? what about 1998? huh? huh? Your dumb, your dumb, na na na
> na

    What about yer MOM? anything with a 1 in it isn't an all-evens year... 1
was even till about 600AD, but then they decided it was gonna be odd. Dunno
why, used to be constantinople, now it's istanbul, not constantinople... Why
did constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the turks...
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> Don't ask me, I don't make the rules, I just follow 'em...

yeah you also eat your own feces and bathe in the filth of rotting flesh.
Hows that for credibility, hmmmmmm?? Plus your dumb times 10 and you can't
correctly end words with "Z" in order to make yourself look more tough.
peace outz


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No, Ah've goat no problem wit ye awl.  Ah wis fuckin' huvin a good shag fore awl this shite.  Ah eywis fuckin' loav ta set the record stright.  And thisn no jist something ye can forget in a couple of yonks.  So i sais te meself, these fuckin' yanks kens nothing.

Mc oot whir ahm froom ees as fir as ah kens, is any dirty cow ah've met at the pub.

shure they kens how ta tae it like it ees.  

they've goat secret powrs ya ken.

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Just call me McOpiey!

Blah.. n/m... I ssound like a fastfood sandwixh...

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Mc Hammer isnt scottish???? wow....  what am i going
to do.. I bet money on that just the other day.. I'm
going to lose... :-(

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you fat bastard

>From: "Brandon Ivers" <sluggo@visi.com>
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>
> > i'm sure
> > MC Hammer is not Scottish...
>
>I'm pretty sure McHammer is partially scottish actually, considering a name
>like "McHammer". See, scottish last names are the titles of clans, like the
>clan "McHammer" for instance. I'm minoring in Scottish studies, so I've
>learned alot about stuff like that. Colllege rulez
>
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Actually the MC stands for Masters of Carnage...

peace.............

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"When I've got the music, I've got a place to go."

>  i however like referring to mc = making chumpchange.
>  
>  entro >>
> 
> So thats where the MC in MCdonalds came from! A HA! *giggles*
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Well brandon,
see, you have it partially right, yes scottish people
have the gift to be able to "rap" over jungle dj's,
but its not just the scots, its also the irish, seeing
as they have the Mc in front of many of their names,
or Mac, which works just as well.
However the Welsh are not allowed to do this, seeing
as they have been inbread with sheep for so long, if
they try to do it, it just comes out as,
"baaaaaaaaaverybody in tha plaaaaaaaaaaaaaccce".
Thank you for your time, and effort
signed
Jon "Glad im part Scot Irish and no part Welsh" Gotti

--- Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com> wrote:
> I'm a little confused... I always see these guys
> with jungle DJs calling
> themselves "McThis" and "McThat". Recently I saw
> "McBrace", and he talked
> really fast about smoking bongs n shit (hell yeah
> bro, smoke bongz in the
> '00...2FUTURE4U), like maybe he was scottish n shit.
> So my question is: do
> you have to be scottish in order to "rap" over
> jungle? What if you are only
> partially scottish? What if your last name is
> Mcsuchandsuch, and your NOT
> scottish? Is that being a poseur *old skool thrasher
> spelling* then?
> 
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Nicci.. Please tell me you did not come up with the
Subject of this email string...
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In a message dated 2/2/00 11:32:56 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Kidentropy@aol.com 
writes:

<< No, Ah've goat no problem wit ye awl.  Ah wis fuckin' huvin a good shag 
fore awl this shite.  Ah eywis fuckin' loav ta set the record stright.  And 
thisn no jist something ye can forget in a couple of yonks.  So i sais te 
meself, these fuckin' yanks kens nothing.
 
 Mc oot whir ahm froom ees as fir as ah kens, is any dirty cow ah've met at 
the pub.
 
 shure they kens how ta tae it like it ees.  
 
 they've goat secret powrs ya ken.
 
 mcirvinewelsh. >>

haha..that whole email brightend my day! teach me how to type like that!  :D
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Thats the Irish damn it!!
Getcher damn celtics right!!!!


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> I don't like Scotts.. they live on an island or
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maybe McHammer is my real last name (it was totally
changed at ellis island when my ancestors came
over)???
BRANDON, HELP ME
p.s. I feel like Alex Haley right now.

--- Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com> wrote:
> > i'm sure
> > MC Hammer is not Scottish...
> 
> I'm pretty sure McHammer is partially scottish
> actually, considering a name
> like "McHammer". See, scottish last names are the
> titles of clans, like the
> clan "McHammer" for instance. I'm minoring in
> Scottish studies, so I've
> learned alot about stuff like that. Colllege rulez
> 
> Brandon
> 
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i thought rush played good tracks...but his programming sucked.  didnt
flow at all.  but he DID play a few good rekkids, a few good swedish
rekkids...not to mention the sound in that room wasn't the best either.

hyperactive was really good...had me jackn'  was nice to let go n let the
music take over.

then came sy n brisk same ol' tracks different deejays droppin'
em...except for a few i haven't ever heard...it was cool to see all the
kids freak though   =)

then Matt Bandy was on....and you know...i don't like house but jeesus
christ boy was gewd!  i mean really...WOW...he had me dancing the whole
time.  and the way he played with that pioneer...  i dunno what to
say...except that you shouldnt pass him up.  check his shit out!  forrealz
yall

then we had to venture back to iowa....so i couldnt stay for his whole
set...but i did stay till the lights came on.  =)

oh and i finally met philfreeart...nice to meet you mr. security ocifer 
:P


--- "mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:
> why we patdown at the door -
> we try to avoid drugs at our parties and we have to have a patdown,
> those
> were harvey police
> we hired for the night.   we don't want to see anyone od or die at one
> of
> our events so we keep
> everything as tight as possible.  because we do care about the scene.
> i didn't see anyone there off the list except jackie (panked for you
> aolers)
> hyperactive was boring?  i thought he tore shit up   wicked beat
> juggling
> you just cant hang with the minimal/hard techno  :p
> sy, brisk & storm were good,  they both were holding back a little bit
> and both of them have never played together on 2x4
> our next event, end of may, we are bringing them back
> which they will have practice, since they both just moved their studios
> in
> together
> 
> dj rush set was good, the eq on the photon room mixer wasnt working, 
> thanks
> to andy
> for the setup on that one >:)
> 
> anyhow i've heard nothing but good responses about it.
> look for our next event in may.
> it was nice meeting you michael knight.  your a punkass
> 
> -gruve
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fergus <fergus@primenet.com>
> 
> > Almost didn't go.  The weather in Indiana was scary.  Fortunately
> things
> > got better the closer we got to Chicago.  Got to the net meet around
> > 7:45...fortunately everyone was still there :)  Wasn't as many people
> as
> > the one before Bonkers but it was still a lot of fun :)  Boppity and
> > Paul...it was great meeting both of you...you guys are awesome :D 
> Paul,
> > thanks for buying me and my boyee water at the party :D 
> Prasad...lookin
> > sexy as usual ;p
> >
> > Got to the party and was in the door within 10 minutes.  Thankfully
> cuz I
> > left my coat in the car....sacrificed warmth for convenience and
> cuteness
> > ;p  Security was pretty relaxed when I got there...the woman that
> searched
> > me was really nice...she looked like a cop...all she did was grope my
> > pockets and ask me what everything was...didn't make me take anything
> out.
> >
> > Went to go pay for our tickets...and the following took place:
> >
> > Briank (my guy): *hands ticket guy 3 $20'*
> > Ticket Guy: You want 3 tickets?
> > Briank: No, only two
> > Fergus: Unless they are supposed to be $20 and that's why you think we
> want
> > 3...since we gave you 3 $20's.
> > Ticket Guy: *evil look at fergus*  *says nothing*
> >
> > Bah.  I think it's really shitty that tickets weren't sold out of
> state.
> > And don't give me that "you can give yer credit card #" blah blah
> bullshit.
> >  I'm not giving my credit card # out over the phone...and for me to
> send a
> > mail order and expect my tickets back within 6 days...it wasn't going
> to
> > happen.
> >
> > But anyways.
> >
> > The venue was AWESOME.  Altho I'm wondering how many people slipped
> and
> > fell on those steep walkways...with all the flyers and stuff lying
> around
> > :o  Listened and danced to Brisk's "house" set.  If that's house...the
> mw
> > needs more of it.  There was actually a beat ;p
> >
> > Didn't even know there was a "second" room til about 11:30 when Prasad
> came
> > and rescued me and my guy from some
> god-awful-I-don't-want-to-know-what
> > that was being played.  Altho since I was sitting on the speaker...the
> > vibrations did feel pretty good on my ass ;p  Followed Prasad to the
> other
> > room...walked in...and didn't leave for the rest of the night.  The
> set up
> > was INCREDIBLE.  The speakers kicked ass, the lighting kicked ass, the
> size
> > of the room kicked ass.  To me it was exactly the kind of place a
> party
> > should be held at.
> >
> > Delta 9 beat my ass.  If I was a guy I would have had a serious
> hard-on
> > throughout his entire set.  I have two hurt knees, a hurt lower back,
> and
> a
> > very sore neck but GODDAMMIT I HAD FUN.  I don't remember the last
> time I
> > heard a hardcore set that good...probably when I saw him in Arizona
> like 3
> > or 4 years ago.
> >
> > Hyperactive played way to fucking long.  I was nearly in tears from
> > boredom.  And what the hell was up with all those backspins?  Geezus
> at
> > least make em sound good...not like some horrific screech.
> >
> > Sy and Brisk.  Ya know...I can bitch about the ticket price all I
> > want...but when it comes right down to it...I would have paid ANY
> amount
> of
> > money to see my guy as happy as he looked when they started playing. 
> I
> > never thought I would cry at a party...but when the person you love
> with
> > all your heart...the person who is your soul mate...is standing there
> > singing "you will always be the love of my life, the love of my life,
> you
> > will always be the one that I want" to you...it was kind of hard not
> to
> > cry.  God help me I'm in love with a happy hardcore fiend.  *swoon* :D
> >
> > To be honest...I didn't enjoy their set as much as I enjoyed Sy's at
> > Bonkers.  It didn't seem to have that "oomph" that I like.  But they
> still
> > played quite a few of my favorite songs :)
> >
> > Left after that.  The drive home wasn't as bad as the drive up.
> > Fortunately it had stopped snowing.
> >
> > My throat is sore.  One too many "fuck yeahs!" on my party during D-9
> I
> > guess :P
> >
> > Michael it was great seeing you again :)  If possible I'd like a copy
> of
> > that pic you took of me and brian :)
> >
> > We took a whole roll of pictures...maybe one of these days I'll post
> em.
> I
> > think Prasad took a group pic of the net meet...I want a copy of that
> one
> > too please :)
> >
> > Ok I think that's it...overall I had a blast.  I honestly don't think
> I've
> > ever had that much fun at a party before.  Being able to hug the
> speakers
> > with my guy...it was an amazing experience :D
> >
> > fergus :D
> >
> > Oh yeah...I was the girl wearing the blue T-shirt with the hippo on it
> that
> > said "hip" under it, and sometimes a black sweatshirt over that...my
> hair
> > was in a ponytail.  :P
> >
> >
> >
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Anyone have an E-flyer or any info for raves in either Milwaukee or Chicago 
the weekend before Valentine's day (that would be February 12th) please hit 
me back....



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At 12:35 PM 02/02/2000 -0800, djshiva wrote:
>
>>and  you all talk trash even though they do more in one day to help 
>>suffereing people "rage" than any of us will ever do. 
>
>i work EVERY DAY as an activist, for barely enough to make a living.  i do
what i do with little or no recognition or fanfare.  who cares?  i do.
>
> this part gets me the 
>>most.  its not like they AREN'T helping people.  its not like they AREN'T 
>>trying hard to make a difference.  its just that you all for some reason 
>>can't see past this sony label bullshit.
>
>i do think they've brought a lot of issues to the forefront of young
americans' consciousness, but for every new activist born, there's a frat
boy rapist yelling "fuck you i won't do what you tell me!".  
>

  Whoa now. Let's watch the feminist outbursts that don't make the least
bit of sense.  Anyways, everything that could possibly have been said has
been and this discussion is getting a bit old.  I see where you're coming
from and agree with you to a certain extent(except for the rape statement).
 By the way, your set at ID was wicked.  Peace y'all.


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happy hardcore sucks.

michael knight wrote:

> hey, i have a question for you lot, especially the pb-cle kids.
>
> it has come to my attention that the element squad will be, in fact,
> throwing transformation FREE on april 15, the same date as our upcoming
> event CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT.  their event is going to be free, and ours
> will be $15.  i don't know yet what their lineup is, but ours will be all
> happy hardcore, hardcore, jump-up and oldskool.
>
> who thinks i should consider changing the date of my party?  it would be a
> bit of a hassle at this point, but since the element squad event is FREE i
> am kind of worried.  music is the key 2 definitely didn't hurt us, but it
> was $30 when our event was $10.
>
> what are people's feelings on element squad? do you support their
> events?  would you support transformation over children of the night?  am i
> worried about nothing?  input?  thoughts?  thanks.
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
> kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
> 24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
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Where's Izzy???





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please don't be a fucking idiot(pardon my french)

but with all do respect,we all have opinions on this list..so i think 
between the diversity..everyone could easily post "fuck house"..."fuck drum 
and bass" every time it came up..but honestly where the fuck would that get 
anyone?

i mean..you have your own opinions..and i respect that...but if your 
critisism is not constructive please do the best you can do shut up.

on a more progressive note,ITS ALL MUSIC..can we leave it at that.

Nujack =)


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>happy hardcore sucks.
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speaking of valentines day parties, can someone supply me with the info for 
getting presales for Hawtin in Louisville?  I seem to have deleted them.

doh,
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I'm looking to book him for the following dates:

FEB	11,19,25,26
MAR	3,10,11,17,24,25
APRIL	OPEN

Some weekday and Sundays available as well.

Reply back to:  syceda_rhythm@hotmail.com

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You must be new here... A few things you need to know before turning on that
flame thrower:

1) I actually dig on happycore

2) it was a joke

3) Michael and I are friends

4) it was a joke

5) This is mw-raves.  I can say 'Richie Hawtin masturbates with flaming
crustaceans' and get away with it.

6) it was a joke

moving on...


one love,
greg

"Winn/Nujack ." wrote:

> please don't be a fucking idiot(pardon my french)
>
> but with all do respect,we all have opinions on this list..so i think
> between the diversity..everyone could easily post "fuck house"..."fuck drum
> and bass" every time it came up..but honestly where the fuck would that get
> anyone?
>
> i mean..you have your own opinions..and i respect that...but if your
> critisism is not constructive please do the best you can do shut up.
>
> on a more progressive note,ITS ALL MUSIC..can we leave it at that.
>
> Nujack =)
>
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> >Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:22:51 -0500
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> >happy hardcore sucks.
> >
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(Probably be one or two more before we're said and done)

Syceda Rhythm presents...

NO MERCY
Valentine's Day Weekend
Saturday February 12, 2000
Kansas City Area
9:30pm - 7am

Carlos [San Francisco] (S.F. House Collective)
DDR [U.K. Live acid-techno PA] (Smitten, Stay-Up Forever)
Roman [Seattle] (Funky Techno Tribe, NativeVision.com)
Ryan Tinsley [Chicago} (tech-house)
My Friend Mike/Nico [Kansas City] (ambient dnb)
DJ Gruve [Chicago]

Infolines:

816.292.2881
816.871.5151
816.920.3578 (messages only)

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----- Original Message -----
From: Tiffanie Hamilton <keepdamwalive@yahoo.com>

>
> i thought rush played good tracks...but his programming sucked.  didnt
> flow at all.  but he DID play a few good rekkids, a few good swedish
> rekkids...not to mention the sound in that room wasn't the best either.

Rush was the shit,  reason he didnt flow..  andy the sound guy hooked the
mixer
up wrong so the EQ's were not working

> hyperactive was really good...had me jackn'  was nice to let go n let the
> music take over.

hyperactive was the shit. he had me just standing there with my mouth
dropped when he was pulling
off that beat juggling

> then came sy n brisk same ol' tracks different deejays droppin'
> em...except for a few i haven't ever heard...it was cool to see all the
> kids freak though   =)

first time for everything

> then Matt Bandy was on....and you know...i don't like house but jeesus
> christ boy was gewd!  i mean really...WOW...he had me dancing the whole
> time.  and the way he played with that pioneer...  i dunno what to
> say...except that you shouldnt pass him up.  check his shit out!  forrealz
> yall

yeah we know matt bandy is god and thee-o rips on matt bandys friends.
that was some funny shit.  admit that one matt!   =)

> then we had to venture back to iowa....so i couldnt stay for his whole
> set...but i did stay till the lights came on.  =)

and the cows came home

> oh and i finally met philfreeart...nice to meet you mr. security ocifer
> :P

i met phil too, we went outside and made snow angels


-gruve


> --- "mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:
> > why we patdown at the door -
> > we try to avoid drugs at our parties and we have to have a patdown,
> > those
> > were harvey police
> > we hired for the night.   we don't want to see anyone od or die at one
> > of
> > our events so we keep
> > everything as tight as possible.  because we do care about the scene.
> > i didn't see anyone there off the list except jackie (panked for you
> > aolers)
> > hyperactive was boring?  i thought he tore shit up   wicked beat
> > juggling
> > you just cant hang with the minimal/hard techno  :p
> > sy, brisk & storm were good,  they both were holding back a little bit
> > and both of them have never played together on 2x4
> > our next event, end of may, we are bringing them back
> > which they will have practice, since they both just moved their studios
> > in
> > together
> >
> > dj rush set was good, the eq on the photon room mixer wasnt working,
> > thanks
> > to andy
> > for the setup on that one >:)
> >
> > anyhow i've heard nothing but good responses about it.
> > look for our next event in may.
> > it was nice meeting you michael knight.  your a punkass
> >
> > -gruve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Fergus <fergus@primenet.com>
> >
> > > Almost didn't go.  The weather in Indiana was scary.  Fortunately
> > things
> > > got better the closer we got to Chicago.  Got to the net meet around
> > > 7:45...fortunately everyone was still there :)  Wasn't as many people
> > as
> > > the one before Bonkers but it was still a lot of fun :)  Boppity and
> > > Paul...it was great meeting both of you...you guys are awesome :D
> > Paul,
> > > thanks for buying me and my boyee water at the party :D
> > Prasad...lookin
> > > sexy as usual ;p
> > >
> > > Got to the party and was in the door within 10 minutes.  Thankfully
> > cuz I
> > > left my coat in the car....sacrificed warmth for convenience and
> > cuteness
> > > ;p  Security was pretty relaxed when I got there...the woman that
> > searched
> > > me was really nice...she looked like a cop...all she did was grope my
> > > pockets and ask me what everything was...didn't make me take anything
> > out.
> > >
> > > Went to go pay for our tickets...and the following took place:
> > >
> > > Briank (my guy): *hands ticket guy 3 $20'*
> > > Ticket Guy: You want 3 tickets?
> > > Briank: No, only two
> > > Fergus: Unless they are supposed to be $20 and that's why you think we
> > want
> > > 3...since we gave you 3 $20's.
> > > Ticket Guy: *evil look at fergus*  *says nothing*
> > >
> > > Bah.  I think it's really shitty that tickets weren't sold out of
> > state.
> > > And don't give me that "you can give yer credit card #" blah blah
> > bullshit.
> > >  I'm not giving my credit card # out over the phone...and for me to
> > send a
> > > mail order and expect my tickets back within 6 days...it wasn't going
> > to
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > But anyways.
> > >
> > > The venue was AWESOME.  Altho I'm wondering how many people slipped
> > and
> > > fell on those steep walkways...with all the flyers and stuff lying
> > around
> > > :o  Listened and danced to Brisk's "house" set.  If that's house...the
> > mw
> > > needs more of it.  There was actually a beat ;p
> > >
> > > Didn't even know there was a "second" room til about 11:30 when Prasad
> > came
> > > and rescued me and my guy from some
> > god-awful-I-don't-want-to-know-what
> > > that was being played.  Altho since I was sitting on the speaker...the
> > > vibrations did feel pretty good on my ass ;p  Followed Prasad to the
> > other
> > > room...walked in...and didn't leave for the rest of the night.  The
> > set up
> > > was INCREDIBLE.  The speakers kicked ass, the lighting kicked ass, the
> > size
> > > of the room kicked ass.  To me it was exactly the kind of place a
> > party
> > > should be held at.
> > >
> > > Delta 9 beat my ass.  If I was a guy I would have had a serious
> > hard-on
> > > throughout his entire set.  I have two hurt knees, a hurt lower back,
> > and
> > a
> > > very sore neck but GODDAMMIT I HAD FUN.  I don't remember the last
> > time I
> > > heard a hardcore set that good...probably when I saw him in Arizona
> > like 3
> > > or 4 years ago.
> > >
> > > Hyperactive played way to fucking long.  I was nearly in tears from
> > > boredom.  And what the hell was up with all those backspins?  Geezus
> > at
> > > least make em sound good...not like some horrific screech.
> > >
> > > Sy and Brisk.  Ya know...I can bitch about the ticket price all I
> > > want...but when it comes right down to it...I would have paid ANY
> > amount
> > of
> > > money to see my guy as happy as he looked when they started playing.
> > I
> > > never thought I would cry at a party...but when the person you love
> > with
> > > all your heart...the person who is your soul mate...is standing there
> > > singing "you will always be the love of my life, the love of my life,
> > you
> > > will always be the one that I want" to you...it was kind of hard not
> > to
> > > cry.  God help me I'm in love with a happy hardcore fiend.  *swoon* :D
> > >
> > > To be honest...I didn't enjoy their set as much as I enjoyed Sy's at
> > > Bonkers.  It didn't seem to have that "oomph" that I like.  But they
> > still
> > > played quite a few of my favorite songs :)
> > >
> > > Left after that.  The drive home wasn't as bad as the drive up.
> > > Fortunately it had stopped snowing.
> > >
> > > My throat is sore.  One too many "fuck yeahs!" on my party during D-9
> > I
> > > guess :P
> > >
> > > Michael it was great seeing you again :)  If possible I'd like a copy
> > of
> > > that pic you took of me and brian :)
> > >
> > > We took a whole roll of pictures...maybe one of these days I'll post
> > em.
> > I
> > > think Prasad took a group pic of the net meet...I want a copy of that
> > one
> > > too please :)
> > >
> > > Ok I think that's it...overall I had a blast.  I honestly don't think
> > I've
> > > ever had that much fun at a party before.  Being able to hug the
> > speakers
> > > with my guy...it was an amazing experience :D
> > >
> > > fergus :D
> > >
> > > Oh yeah...I was the girl wearing the blue T-shirt with the hippo on it
> > that
> > > said "hip" under it, and sometimes a black sweatshirt over that...my
> > hair
> > > was in a ponytail.  :P
> > >
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then why are you posting it on this list.....call his booking agent. I 
personally, and I really doubt anyone on this list know exactly what dates 
James Christian has open.....maybe post it to PB-CLE-raves

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In a message dated 02/02/00 8:00:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< Anyone have an E-flyer or any info for raves in either Milwaukee or 
Chicago 
 the weekend before Valentine's day (that would be February 12th) please hit 
 me back....
  >>


dave clarke and misstress barbra are @ karma in chi
its 21+ thou 
=P
Ill be in Louisville seein richie.. .hopefully not put  in the corner by 
mommy becky  : )
<3lor

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In a message dated 2/2/00 4:34:20 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
djshiva@maxart.net writes:

> 
>  yeah i know...i'm kinda sleep deprived.  RATM was the acronym i was 
looking 
> for.  that one crept into my head quite unexpectedly.
>  
>  i've posted two apologies for this and neither have shown up in my inbox.  
i 
> think i'm missing half the posts and i don't know why.
>  
>  any suggestions?


unsub.

       indybassnet is the drama hub now, like DUH brittney!














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OLeSkL@aol.com wrote:
> 
> then why are you posting it on this list.....call his booking agent. I
> personally, and I really doubt anyone on this list know exactly what dates
> James Christian has open.....maybe post it to PB-CLE-raves
> 
> -


I'm trying to GET him booked for those dates.

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In a message dated 2/2/00 4:50:29 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
IHavelssuez@aol.com writes:

>  >honey, i don't hate you cuz you have a penis (i have THREE myself)...
>   
>   i'm afraid to ask, and yet strangely curious as to what's going on with 
>   you, in a genetic sense...

i've got one attached and one in the glove box,  and shiva is still borrowing 
my 3rd, so she technically has 4!

get it yet?

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In a message dated 2/3/00 12:06:40 AM !!!First Boot!!!, eiectraiux@yahoo.com 
writes:

<< Nicci.. Please tell me you did not come up with the
 Subject of this email string... >>

No Way!...That subject is WAY to intelligent for the likes of something I'd 
think up. hehehe
-Nicci


-*pixee*-
AOL sn: IhaveLssuez
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From: "the Jester" <psy-jester@goatrance.com>
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propagandhi is my messiah

nuff sed


"and we thought nation-states were a bad idea"

jester

>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:47:19 -0600
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>Subject: [mw] keep your politics out of my music
>Reply-To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>
>RATM appeals to the natural tendency to rebel against the status quo that 
>most of us experience when we are about 14-19 years old.  it's 
>dial-a-rebellion.  it's hypocritical, yes, and the music rather sucks 
>IMNSHO.  _but_ it meets a need.  and who among us can complain if a 
>youngster picks up a RATM album and is motivated to start researching 
>what's actually going on in the world around him?  98% of the people will 
>outgrow "rebellion for rebellion's sake" by their second year out of high 
>school.  so just take it with a grain of salt.  your mom said it 
>best:  "it's only a phase".  innit.
>
>in an related note, i think propagandhi's politics are fucked heartily in 
>the ass, yet they are one of my favourite bands.  go figure!
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
>michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
>kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
>24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
>michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
>
>
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I don't see anything special for Milwaukee - but Menage A Trois is in
Madison on Sat Feb 12. Full details are on our Madison-Milwaukee events
list:

http://www.technoheaven.com/madison-milwaukee.htm

Best!

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )

----- Original Message -----
From: <GLoWsTiCkcHiKa@aol.com>

> Anyone have an E-flyer or any info for raves in either Milwaukee or
Chicago
> the weekend before Valentine's day (that would be February 12th) please
hit
> me back....
>
> sarah.



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> Greetings, humans!
>
> Well, if you're like all of us over here in this building, you may not
> have had enough Plastikman lately... so when j-Sun and the rest of the
> gang started saying that we didn't have enough drama in our lives, we
> figured we might as well stress out good and proper with another
> big-ole' shebang.
>
> So coming soon, to Louisville KY, on Valentine's day weekend 2000...
>
> hey, that's two/twelve/00
>
> two 12/00?
>
> oh shit.
>
> oh yeah.
>
> this will be a focused, one-off event with just a few names (4 to be
> exact), but talent that we feel is worth dedicating a whole night to. we
> all know that overblown events with 50 dj names are never what they're
> cracked up to be, so here's our plan for what we're doing and who's
> playing:
>
> 1. open the night with an hour to an hour and a half with NO dj
> whatsoever. take the focus off who's playing and use that time to put
> people in a different world through how we design the environment.
> you'll know more about what we're saying that night.
>
> 2. imperial sound system: if you're from louisville, then you know that
> these guys are the best dj's in town right now. drum&bass ragga with a bag
> o' tricks to go around.
>
> 3. jethrox (drop bass network): kurt's gonna bring a bag full of hard
> schtuff to pummel the crowd with. something that's long overdue in this
> city.
>
> 4. richie hawtin: how about 4-5 hours with some turntables, efx, a 909,
and
> a 101?
>
> 5. strange loop: ends the night some experimental downtempo
>
> we thought that the old run-of-the-mill rave flyer wouldn't be
> appropriate for this type of event, so available now, a special
> four-design set of postcards, to be passed out as valentine's day cards by
> all those who might desire to spread the word. simply reply with your
> address, how many you'd like to get and pass out, and we'll get you a box,
> by New Years if we can.
>
> we can think of no better way to celebrate the commercial holiday about
> love, than to blow out the cerebellums of everyone within a few
> blocks...
>
> enjoy the last of the nine nine
>
> j2 & j-sun



dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@visto.com
fon: (513) 861-6760
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From: "Winn/Nujack ." <nujack@hotmail.com>
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fuck happy hardcore.


>From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
>To: "Winn/Nujack ." <nujack@hotmail.com>
>CC: michael@happy.hardcorps.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] element squad
>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 20:41:48 -0500
>
>You must be new here... A few things you need to know before turning on 
>that
>flame thrower:
>
>1) I actually dig on happycore
>
>2) it was a joke
>
>3) Michael and I are friends
>
>4) it was a joke
>
>5) This is mw-raves.  I can say 'Richie Hawtin masturbates with flaming
>crustaceans' and get away with it.
>
>6) it was a joke
>
>moving on...
>
>
>one love,
>greg
>
>"Winn/Nujack ." wrote:
>
> > please don't be a fucking idiot(pardon my french)
> >
> > but with all do respect,we all have opinions on this list..so i think
> > between the diversity..everyone could easily post "fuck house"..."fuck 
>drum
> > and bass" every time it came up..but honestly where the fuck would that 
>get
> > anyone?
> >
> > i mean..you have your own opinions..and i respect that...but if your
> > critisism is not constructive please do the best you can do shut up.
> >
> > on a more progressive note,ITS ALL MUSIC..can we leave it at that.
> >
> > Nujack =)
> >
> > >From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> > >Reply-To: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> > >To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> > >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] element squad
> > >Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:22:51 -0500
> > >
> > >happy hardcore sucks.
> > >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>

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I will be there with bells on =P
along with 489320482430 other mwravers  YEyEYyYEYyeYEyeYEYy
this is going to be INTENSE im allready feelin it!!!!!!!!!!
who is going from pb-cle ????????? 
n e one? or are all you hukkers going to see venom.. or bbbbbbbbbb... or i 
dono..  some other useless dj

becky dont put me in the corner for that

<3 lor

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Giles, from Chi-town....longer reddish hair....labcoat boy...  You still out
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addy...TIA

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hey everyone...coming up at lift this week is a visit from GRAEME-SF from
the funky teckno tribe http://www.funkytekno.net otherwise known as the crew
that spawned dj dan, donald glaude, barry weaver and othersin case you didnt
know lift has moved from the awful dv8 facility to a roving format utilizing
different clubs around the city ...this weeks installment will be at TOP
CATS on the UC campus...call 513.665.9999 for more info...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@visto.com
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clubhead and lift are proud to welcome back one of the most in-demand techno
djs in the world-DAVE CLARKE-author of the legendary RED series, southside
and also the mastermind behind the electro boogie mix series on K7...last
time in town he devastated a packed room with cutting edge techno, chicago
house and electro for nearly 3 hours...this is the real deal guys...with
hawtin and clarke in a 1 1/2 hour radius over the same weekend, i might
never be the same...call 513.665.9999 for more info and the venue for this
special edition of LIFT...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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Anyone else on this list going to Psychosis?????

Anyone interested in going?  there is a spot (maybe two available in the
car I'm going in)
anyone who lives in between dayton and pittsburgh (or is willing to drive
to some point betwee) is welcome to get a ride.  Email me privately.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 03 06:38:40 2000
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you live to learn to love.

sometimes certain things get in the way & it makes it
harder for you to learn.

but, i guess that's what makes the journey that much 
more worthwhile.

- deep thoughts by jack kandy

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;)

now you're getting it.

one love,
greg

"Winn/Nujack ." wrote:

> fuck happy hardcore.
>
> >From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> >To: "Winn/Nujack ." <nujack@hotmail.com>
> >CC: michael@happy.hardcorps.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] element squad
> >Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 20:41:48 -0500
> >
> >You must be new here... A few things you need to know before turning on
> >that
> >flame thrower:
> >
> >1) I actually dig on happycore
> >
> >2) it was a joke
> >
> >3) Michael and I are friends
> >
> >4) it was a joke
> >
> >5) This is mw-raves.  I can say 'Richie Hawtin masturbates with flaming
> >crustaceans' and get away with it.
> >
> >6) it was a joke
> >
> >moving on...
> >
> >
> >one love,
> >greg
> >
> >"Winn/Nujack ." wrote:
> >
> > > please don't be a fucking idiot(pardon my french)
> > >
> > > but with all do respect,we all have opinions on this list..so i think
> > > between the diversity..everyone could easily post "fuck house"..."fuck
> >drum
> > > and bass" every time it came up..but honestly where the fuck would that
> >get
> > > anyone?
> > >
> > > i mean..you have your own opinions..and i respect that...but if your
> > > critisism is not constructive please do the best you can do shut up.
> > >
> > > on a more progressive note,ITS ALL MUSIC..can we leave it at that.
> > >
> > > Nujack =)
> > >
> > > >From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> > > >Reply-To: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> > > >To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> > > >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [mw] element squad
> > > >Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:22:51 -0500
> > > >
> > > >happy hardcore sucks.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________________________________
> > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
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Are we getting into this again?  Well let me be of some assistance....

Publicly subsidized - privately profitable
that's the anthem upper tier - puppeteer untouchables
focus a moment, nod in approvable
bury your head in the barcodes of these neo-colonials

AND I'M JUST A KID!!!!!

(i can't believe i gotta worry about this kinda shit)

WHAT A STUPID WORLD!!!!

born,hired,disposed,
greg

the Jester wrote:

> propagandhi is my messiah
>
> nuff sed
>
> "and we thought nation-states were a bad idea"
>
> jester
>
> >Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:47:19 -0600
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> >Subject: [mw] keep your politics out of my music
> >Reply-To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> >
> >RATM appeals to the natural tendency to rebel against the status quo that
> >most of us experience when we are about 14-19 years old.  it's
> >dial-a-rebellion.  it's hypocritical, yes, and the music rather sucks
> >IMNSHO.  _but_ it meets a need.  and who among us can complain if a
> >youngster picks up a RATM album and is motivated to start researching
> >what's actually going on in the world around him?  98% of the people will
> >outgrow "rebellion for rebellion's sake" by their second year out of high
> >school.  so just take it with a grain of salt.  your mom said it
> >best:  "it's only a phase".  innit.
> >
> >in an related note, i think propagandhi's politics are fucked heartily in
> >the ass, yet they are one of my favourite bands.  go figure!
> >
> >_____________________________________________________________________
> >michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
> >kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
> >24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
> >michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
> >
> >
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In a message dated 2/3/00 6:39:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Steviet069@aol.com 
writes:

<< you live to learn to love.
 
 sometimes certain things get in the way & it makes it
 harder for you to learn.
 
 but, i guess that's what makes the journey that much 
 more worthwhile. >>

Please excuse this..Stevie was drunk and thought he'd be sneeky and run off 
while me and Opiey we're occuppied watching American Pie!
-Nicci

-*pixee*-
AOL sn: IhaveLssuez
AOL aim: pixee on xtc
ICQ: 58641132

-*and if u wanna make sense..wut u looking at me for? i'm no good at MEN!*-


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 03 10:10:37 2000
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Subject: [mw] Drugs and Last weekend's patdown** READ THIS
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Once again the reason for last weekends patdown.
Last time the photon was used a girl died on a OD.
That was 3 years ago.  We DO NOT want someone to die or get
hurt at our events.  we know its gonna go on but we want to take the
measures at the door to stop it and let the police know that we do
take charge when it comes to that.

Now the freaky part.
As I said, last time photon was used was 3 years ago.
A girl overdosed and died that night.
Her body wasn't found until 2 days later when they were
cleaning up the place and found her in one of the mazes.
Take note again, this girl died exactly 3 years ago of our Jan 29th party
last weekend.
Luis Aguilera was by himself in the building on the friday before the party
cleaning the room.
He was in the maze and sweeping the woodchips off the floor and heard a
girls voice
that was giggling,  luis jetted out of the room as fast as his mexican legs
could run.
I just found out about this tonight, on that friday before that party i was
in the room by
myself just checking around seeing if there were anymore things that needed
to be
brought out to the dumpster and i was in the maze part.  I had this weird
feeling comeover
me, which really freaked me out and I myself got out of that room.

If that doesn't make you think twice, I don't know what would.
It really creeps me.  And  I know it freaks Luis.

-mike



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That story alone gave me goose bumps..I've had simiular encounters or 
somesort with stuff kinda relating to that..Makes you think sometimes..
-Nicci
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In a message dated 2/3/00 10:11:10 AM !!!First Boot!!!, djgruve@home.net 
writes:

<< Once again the reason for last weekends patdown.
 Last time the photon was used a girl died on a OD.
 That was 3 years ago.  We DO NOT want someone to die or get
 hurt at our events.  we know its gonna go on but we want to take the
 measures at the door to stop it and let the police know that we do
 take charge when it comes to that.
 
 Now the freaky part.
 As I said, last time photon was used was 3 years ago.
 A girl overdosed and died that night.
 Her body wasn't found until 2 days later when they were
 cleaning up the place and found her in one of the mazes.
 Take note again, this girl died exactly 3 years ago of our Jan 29th party
 last weekend.
 Luis Aguilera was by himself in the building on the friday before the party
 cleaning the room.
 He was in the maze and sweeping the woodchips off the floor and heard a
 girls voice
 that was giggling,  luis jetted out of the room as fast as his mexican legs
 could run.
 I just found out about this tonight, on that friday before that party i was
 in the room by
 myself just checking around seeing if there were anymore things that needed
 to be
 brought out to the dumpster and i was in the maze part.  I had this weird
 feeling comeover
 me, which really freaked me out and I myself got out of that room.
 
 If that doesn't make you think twice, I don't know what would.
 It really creeps me.  And  I know it freaks Luis.
 
 -mike >>





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>Where's Izzy???

the better question...


where's the ju ju hounds?

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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:22:40 -0600
From: "mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>

> i was in the room by myself just checking around seeing if there were
> anymore things that needed to be brought out to the dumpster and i was
> in the maze part.  I had this weird feeling comeover
> me, which really freaked me out and I myself got out of that room.
> If that doesn't make you think twice, I don't know what would.
> It really creeps me.  And  I know it freaks Luis.

Well hell I didn't know about this until after the party, but it makes
perfect sense.  All I can think about now is if I sat down someplace in
that maze where that poor girl's body was found, and that gives me the
fucking creeps!

As far as the patdowns go, I personally didn't have a problem with them.
>From what I'm told, Harvey is a REALLY bad part of Chicago, and while the
pat-downs were in no ways sufficient to get any drugs off of someone, they
were good enough to find most reasonable sized weapons (I know I know, if
someone wanted to they could have gotten something in...)  I'm of the
opinion that keeping the kids safe from violence should take priority to
safety from chemicals.

Quick party review:

Will and I left Ann Arbor around 3 or 3:30, and the drive out was
really quite nice until we pulled into town when the roads started
sucking.  The turnout at McDonalds was ok. Great meeting Bopp
and Paul, and of course it was great to see fergus and briank again.  I'll
get those pictures developed soon :-)

Where the hell was the dude who was supposed to sell presales at this
net.meet?  I'm a little pissed that I got stiffed paying $30 at the door,
esp since that credit-card/money order over the phone bullshit wouldn't
have worked out for me anyways.  Say whatever you want on how I "could
have" gotten tickets, but I don't see how it would have benefitted me to
wait 6 days for my ticket to arrive in the mail (time to mail out money
order + time to get ticket back).

The *best* policy--which I have only seen in Detroit *so far* is to admit
people with out of state ID's at the presale ticket price.  This is
probably the best thing promoters can do to accomodate people who come
from far distances to fund their parties.  End of story.

The venue was really cool.  I never in a million years would have found
the MAIN room.  Thanks to Jen/Sixtybus for showing me around :p~~  It was
great talking to ya! :-)

Oh yeah, in the smaller room.  I guess I walked in some time during
Brisk's "house" set... which was moving at 215 bpm... ??!?!?!  Eventually
it slowed down a little but jesus christ that was fast!

That main room was really kick ass.  I think Delta-9's set really got the
night going for me.  Sound was super loud and really crisp... it was a
little chilly but that's ok I guess.  Hyperactive was BORING.  Ok I'll
admit that his scratching skills were really good and he's extremely
talented, but it was just too god damn long.  I would have rather heard
him for a 1/2 hour less and heard Sy/Brisk play longer in that time.
Their set was really really good.  I was impressed!  While Sy's scratching
wasn't *anywhere* like what it was at Bonkers, the timing was good and the
track selection was bitchin'.

I thought the moment of the night came when Brisk was about to mix out of
a record and Sy reached over and hit the stop button on the table.  Now
THAT was funny!!!  BTW, Sy needs to remember:  Let the record PLAY before
you rewind!!!!!  I think he did it once last weekend.  I *know* he did it
over 5 times at the Hullabaloo last October and it's annoying as all hell.

Mark Almari'a set sounded nice from what I heard but at that point I was
roaming around everywhere.  Didn't hear Thee-O AGAIN, but that's ok I
guess.  I pointed at some short tubby fellow with yellow hair and a goatee
early on and asked him if he was Thee-O but he said nope :p~~

What the fuck was up with the $3 water???

The drive back sucked.

And on that note, this exam break is over.  Back to the books.

peace,
prasad


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mctwist is a skateboarding maneuver as well as a middle-school hip hop MC.

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james christian is a pretty crappy DJ.  does he really have a coke rider on 
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happy hardcore sux donkey nutz
there you are
and there you be

--- "Winn/Nujack ." <nujack@hotmail.com> wrote:
> please don't be a fucking idiot(pardon my french)
> 
> but with all do respect,we all have opinions on this
> list..so i think 
> between the diversity..everyone could easily post
> "fuck house"..."fuck drum 
> and bass" every time it came up..but honestly where
> the fuck would that get 
> anyone?
> 
> i mean..you have your own opinions..and i respect
> that...but if your 
> critisism is not constructive please do the best you
> can do shut up.
> 
> on a more progressive note,ITS ALL MUSIC..can we
> leave it at that.
> 
> Nujack =)
> 
> 
> >From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> >Reply-To: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> >To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
> >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org
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> >Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 19:22:51 -0500
> >
> >happy hardcore sucks.
> >
> 
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From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
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SHEEP FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--- Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:
> No, Ah've goat no problem wit ye awl.  Ah wis
> fuckin' huvin a good shag fore awl this shite.  Ah
> eywis fuckin' loav ta set the record stright.  And
> thisn no jist something ye can forget in a couple of
> yonks.  So i sais te meself, these fuckin' yanks
> kens nothing.
> 
> Mc oot whir ahm froom ees as fir as ah kens, is any
> dirty cow ah've met at the pub.
> 
> shure they kens how ta tae it like it ees.  
> 
> they've goat secret powrs ya ken.
> 
> mcirvinewelsh.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 03 15:23:16 2000
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just in case you didn't believe me when i said I was
going to make it my trailor for my email group.

--- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:17:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
> To: Assholes <stlahole@egroups.com>
> Reply-to: stlahole@egroups.com
> Subject: [stlassholes] check this one out
> 
> 
> Boyeeeeeeeeeee
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> you know in de place we keep de sound tight
> keep de hot side HOT
> keep de cool side COOL
> rave out with ya mates and act like a fool!
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 03 15:31:13 2000
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--- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:17:48 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: [stlassholes] check this one out

can I join??? Sounds like it would be better then this
MW group haha  Joking  I dont know what I would do
without my mail list.... I would have to work at work
or something like that......
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last one, i promise!

if any of you aren't planning on going to john acquaviva or bad boy bill
or mu-ziq or any of the bazillion parties happening in detroit tomorrow,
there's always little ol' state:awake for your booty-shakin needs.  it's
happening at the michigan league on the university of michigan campus in
ann arbor, runs from 9pm till 1am, and is absolutely free of charge to
anybody that wishes to attend.

dj's this evening will be

*DEREK PLASLAIKO
*CARLOS SOUFFRONT
*CHAD SPONHOLZ

there's no info line, but questions/comments can be directed to
state.awake@umich.edu, and directions to the venue, as well as further
information can be found at http://state.awake.freeservers.com.

please keep in mind that this event is sponsored by a university, so don't
plan to behave in ways or bring anything your mother wouldn't approve of.

hope to see y'all tomorrow night!
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where that job lands, everybody knows, and you can tell by the smile on the ceo, environmental restraints are about to go, you can bet laws will be set, to ensure this benefit of unrestricted labor laws, kept in place by displaced government death squads...


they own us, they own us, produce us, consume us...


hey atomly, wheres that tape with samples of THE GREATEST FUCKING BAND EVER on it??

jester

>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 01:46:12 -0500
>From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
>To: the Jester <psy-jester@goatrance.com>
>CC: michael@happy.hardcorps.org, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] keep your politics out of my music
>
>Are we getting into this again?  Well let me be of some assistance....
>
>Publicly subsidized - privately profitable
>that's the anthem upper tier - puppeteer untouchables
>focus a moment, nod in approvable
>bury your head in the barcodes of these neo-colonials
>
>AND I'M JUST A KID!!!!!
>
>(i can't believe i gotta worry about this kinda shit)
>
>WHAT A STUPID WORLD!!!!
>
>born,hired,disposed,
>greg
>
>the Jester wrote:
>
>> propagandhi is my messiah
>>
>> nuff sed
>>
>> "and we thought nation-states were a bad idea"
>>
>> jester
>>
>> >Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:47:19 -0600
>> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>> >From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>> >Subject: [mw] keep your politics out of my music
>> >Reply-To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>> >
>> >RATM appeals to the natural tendency to rebel against the status quo that
>> >most of us experience when we are about 14-19 years old.  it's
>> >dial-a-rebellion.  it's hypocritical, yes, and the music rather sucks
>> >IMNSHO.  _but_ it meets a need.  and who among us can complain if a
>> >youngster picks up a RATM album and is motivated to start researching
>> >what's actually going on in the world around him?  98% of the people will
>> >outgrow "rebellion for rebellion's sake" by their second year out of high
>> >school.  so just take it with a grain of salt.  your mom said it
>> >best:  "it's only a phase".  innit.
>> >
>> >in an related note, i think propagandhi's politics are fucked heartily in
>> >the ass, yet they are one of my favourite bands.  go figure!
>> >
>> >_____________________________________________________________________
>> >michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
>> >kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
>> >24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
>> >michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
>> >
>> >
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>
>---------- Original Message ------
>From: "Ryan M. Bambao" <rbambao@bw.edu>
>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:43:53 -0500
>
>
>     Oh, and since you had to continue trash-talking me like the little
>cocksucker that you are, I'll tell you this much.  As far as the
>comment that I suck and that I fuck prostitutes, I don't need to suck
>anything. I've got your street-whore mother for that.  She sucks my
>dick all night long, but before I kick the bitch out of my house I
>always take the time to throw her a quarter.  Gets her that much
>closer to getting another crack-rock, which is apparently the only
>thing that takes away the pain of having raised such a little piece of
>shit as yourself.  So it's not like I'm really servicing a prostitute,
>it's more like getting service from a gutter-slut and then giving her
>a charitable donation.
>
>     As for you, since you obviously couldn't possibly get a woman, maybe
>you should stick with the blow-up dolls.  Or put a bag over your head
>and go into business with your mom.  I'm not personally into the gay
>thing, but I'm sure you could find some guy kind enough to give you a
>reach-around while he rails you in the ass.  And make a quick quarter
>for yourself, too.
>
>Ryan
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan M. Bambao [mailto:rbambao@bw.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:34 AM
>> To: 'J6'
>> Cc: 'PB-CLE-RAVES'
>> Subject: RE: Toys for Boys! ((was Re: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: VERY GROSS))
>>
>>
>>
>>      I wasn't arguing.  I was commenting on the fact that
>> they're weird.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: J6 [mailto:xxj6xx@andythepooh.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 12:10 AM
>> > To: Ryan M. Bambao
>> > Cc: 'PB-CLE-RAVES'
>> > Subject: Re: Toys for Boys! ((was Re: Re: {pb-cle} NRR: VERY
>GROSS))
>> >
>> >
>> > WHAT in the fuck are you going off about?!?!
>> > I posted the link, I wasn't ARGUING ANYTHING!
>> >
>> > God-fucking-damn, do you like to make a fight about EVERYTHING?
>> >
>> > Sheesh, go chill, would ya?
>> >
>> > Man, you SUCK.
>> >
>> > J6
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Look, it's made for perverts.  With that price-tag, they might
>be
>> > > well-off perverts, but it doesn't change the fact that they're
>> > > perverts.  And the other thing I'm thinking is that it's
>> like with a
>> > > price tag of $5300+, if you were that hard-up for sex, you
>> > could just
>> > > hire a high-priced call-girl.  Face the facts: if you pay
>> > $5000+ for a
>> > > doll you can have sex with, it's not an investment you're
>> > planning on
>> > > getting rid of.  And it is assured that if under any
>> circumstances a
>> > > real, living, breathing woman comes over and sees that, she
>> > will leave
>> > > your house in 3 seconds flat, never to return again.  At
>> > least with a
>> > > call-girl it's actual sex, and once it's over you can deny it
>ever
>> > > happened.  With your $5000 love-doll on the other hand, the
>> > > incriminating evidence will be found.
>> > >
>> > > Plus, what happens when you die?  Whoever has go go through your
>> > > belongings is going to be scarred by the experience.  Like at
>your
>> > > funeral there's going to be the internal battle over
>> > whether or not to
>> > > let everyone know you were a damn freak who stuck your
>> dick into an
>> > > inanimate object because you couldn't hack it with the real
>women.
>> > >
>> > > I don't think I'm a prude, I like sex.  It's just that I happen
>to
>> > > like sex with real women, and find the fetishizing of
>> > love-dolls to be
>> > > rather uncool.  But to each his own, I suppose...
>> > >
>> > > Ryan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>


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for people that are all about hardcore, you
guys degenerate into talking about pop-punk 
all too often.

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This was like a Cinci site or something ... had some great streaming sets, 
but a corporate takeover!?! what the fuck? Does anybody know when (read: IF) 
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andy's out of Pittsburgh. I know he was doing a lot of work with Wizard's 
Workshop, but to be hoenst, I have been looking for him myself. Andy, if 
you're reading this, get in touch kiddo.

kitten

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>
>This was like a Cinci site or something ... had some great streaming sets,
>but a corporate takeover!?! what the fuck? Does anybody know when (read: 
>IF)
>it will be back??
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pop-punk rules.  it's the guitar-based equivalent of happy hardcore.  so nyeah.

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>Envelope-to: michael@happy.hardcorps.org
>From: "J6" <xxj6xx@andythepooh.com>
>To: "PB-CLE-RAVES" <pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: {pb-cle} NRR: Some cute shit.
>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 22:57:06 -0500
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>X-files: scully!
>
>Slightly amusing things I found, figured I would pass it on.
>If you object, TS.
>
>J6
>-----------------------------------
>If men really ruled the world...
>-----------------------------------------
>Any fake phone number a girl gave you would automatically forward
>your call to her real number.
>
>Nodding and looking at your watch would be deemed an acceptable
>response to "I love you."
>
>Hallmark would make "Sorry, what was your name again?" cards.
>
>When your girlfriend really needed to talk to you during the game,
>she would appear in a little box in the corner of the screen during a
>time-out.
>
>Breaking up would be a lot easier. A smack to the ass and a "Nice
>hustle, you'll get 'em next time" would pretty much do it.
>
>Birth control would come in ale or lager.
>
>You'd be expected to fill your resume with gag names of people you'd
>worked for, like "Heywood J'Blowme."
>
>Each year, your raise would be pegged to the fortunes of the NFL
>team of your choice.
>
>The funniest guy in the office would get to be CEO.
>
>"Sorry I'm late, but I got hammered last night" would be an
>acceptable excuse for tardiness.
>
>At the end of the workday, a whistle would blow and you'd jump out
>your window and slide down the tail of a brontosaurus and right into your
>car.
>
>It'd be considered harmless fun to gather 30 friends, put on horned
>helmets, and go pillage a nearby town.
>
>Lifeguards could remove citizens from beaches for violating the
>"public ugliness" ordinance.
>
>Tanks would be far easier to rent.
>
>Instead of beer belly, you'd get "beer biceps."
>
>Instead of an expensive engagement ring, you could present your
>wife-to-be with a giant foam hand that said, "You're #1!"
>
>Valentine's Day would be moved to February 29th so it would only
>occur in leap years. (AMEN!!!)
>
>On Groundhog Day, if you saw your shadow, you'd get the day off to
>go drinking. Mother's Day, too. St. Patrick's Day, however, would
>remain exactly the same. But it would be celebrated every month.
>
>Cops would be broadcast live, and you could phone in advice to the
>pursuing cops. Or to the crooks.
>
>Two words: ALLY MCNAKED.
>
>Regis and Kathie Lee would be chained to a cement mixer and pushed
>off the Golden Gate Bridge for the most lucrative pay-per-view event in
>world history.
>
>The victors in any athletic competition would get to kill and eat
>the losers.
>
>The only show opposite Monday Night Football would be Monday Night
>Football from a Different Camera Angle.
>
>It would be perfectly legal to steal a sports car, as long as you
>returned it the following day with a full tank of gas.
>
>Every man would get four real Get Out of Jail Free cards per year.
>
>When a cop gave you a ticket, every smart-aleck answer you responded
>with would actually reduce your fine. As in:
>Cop: "You know how fast you were going?"
>You: "All I know is, I was spilling my beer all over the place."
>Cop: "Nice one. That's $10 off."
>
>Faucets would run "Hot," "Cold," and "100 proof."
>
>The Statue of Liberty would get a bright red, 40-foot thong.
>
>People would never talk about how fresh they felt.
>
>Daisy Duke shorts would never again go out of style.
>
>Telephones would automatically cut off after 30 seconds of
>conversation.
>
>-------------------------------
>Sexually slanted Star Wars quotes
>--------------------------------
>{Star Wars}
>
>1. "Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care what you smell!"
>2. "Luke, at that speed do you think you will be able to pull out in time?"
>3. "Put that thing away before you get us all killed."
>4. "You've got something jammed in here real good."
>5. "Aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?"
>6. "You came in that thing? Your braver than I thought."
>7. "Sorry about the mess..."
>8. "Curse my metal body, I wasn't fast enough!"
>9. "Look at the size of that thing!"
>10. "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts, kid."
>
>{Empire Strikes Back}
>
>1. "I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me."
>2. "Size matters not. Judge me by my size, do you?"
>3. "There's an awful lot of moisture in here."
>4. "But now we must eat. Cum, good food, cumm..."
>5. "That's okay, I'd like to keep it on manual control for a while."
>6. "Hurry up, golden-rod..."
>7. "I must've hit it pretty close to the mark to get her all riled up like
>that, huh kid?"
>8. "Possible he came in through the back entrance."
>9. "And I thought they smelled bad on the outside!"
>10. "Control, control! You must learn control!"
>
>{Jedi Strikes Back}
>
>1. "What could possibly have come over Master Luke? Is it something I did?
>He never expressed any unhappiness with my work."
>2. "You're a jittery little thing, aren't you?"
>3. "I never knew I had it in me."
>4. "There is good in him, I've felt it."
>5. "If I told you half the things I've heard about this Jabba the Hutt,
>you'd probably short
>circuit."
>6. "I assure you, Lord Vader, my men are working as fast as they can."
>Reply: "Perhaps I
>can find new ways to motivate them."
>7. Grab me, Chewie. I'm slipping -- hold on. Grab it, almost...you almost
>got it. Gently now,
>all right, easy, easy, holdme, Chewie.Chewie!"
>8. "Short help's better than no help at all."
>9. "Hey, Luke, thanks for coming after me -- now I owe you one."
>10. "Back door, huh? Good idea!"
>
>-----------------------
>5 kinds of sex
>----------------------
>1) The first is Smurf Sex. This happens during the honeymoon period,
>you both keep doing it until you're blue in the face.
>
>2) The second is Kitchen Sex. This is at the beginning of the
>marriage you'll have sex anywhere, anytime, even in the kitchen.
>
>3) The third kind is Bedroom Sex. You've calmed down a bit, perhaps
>have kids, so you gotta do it in the bedroom.
>
>4) The fourth kind is Hallway Sex. This is where you pass each other
>in the hallway and say, "Fuck you!"
>
>5) There is also a fifth kind of sex: Courtroom Sex. This is when
>you get divorced and your wife screws you in front of everyone in the
>courtroom.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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where's the porn?
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>where's the porn?

the youngest girls on the internet!!  -->  www.babyfacemag.com

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:
> mctwist is a skateboarding maneuver as well as a middle-school hip hop MC.

Two of the skaters in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater have a Kickflip McTwist as
their special move, including Tony Hawk himself...  Anybody remember back
when Andy McDonald used to pull McTwists and nobody could believe it?  Of
course this is also back when Christian Hosoi(sp?) was one of the best
vert skaters in the world and Rodney Mullen was on Incredible Sunday, so
we're talking a long time ago.

And isn't McTwist Dylan?

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:
> pop-punk rules.  it's the guitar-based equivalent of happy hardcore.  so nyeah.

No offense, but you'd be cooler if you spun pop-punk.  :P
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michael knight wrote:

> pop-punk rules.  it's the guitar-based equivalent of happy hardcore.  so nyeah.

You know... like Shonin Knife :)


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this is exactly why i left that god damned pb-cle-raves
list, because of this asshole, ryan m. bamboa!!!...i can't
believe, kids actually listen to his bullshit and he isn't
booted yet!!!

everybody on this list should mail bomb this fool!!!

his e-mail addy is below...


In a message dated 2/3/0 3:56:06 PM, you wrote:

<<From: "Ryan M. Bambao" <rbambao@bw.edu>
>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:43:53 -0500
>
>
>     Oh, and since you had to continue trash-talking me like the little
>cocksucker that you are, I'll tell you this much.  As far as the
>comment that I suck and that I fuck prostitutes, I don't need to suck
>anything. I've got your street-whore mother for that.  She sucks my
>dick all night long, but before I kick the bitch out of my house I
>always take the time to throw her a quarter.  Gets her that much
>closer to getting another crack-rock, which is apparently the only
>thing that takes away the pain of having raised such a little piece of
>shit as yourself.  So it's not like I'm really servicing a prostitute,
>it's more like getting service from a gutter-slut and then giving her
>a charitable donation.
>
>     As for you, since you obviously couldn't possibly get a woman, maybe
>you should stick with the blow-up dolls.  Or put a bag over your head
>and go into business with your mom.  I'm not personally into the gay
>thing, but I'm sure you could find some guy kind enough to give you a
>reach-around while he rails you in the ass.  And make a quick quarter
>for yourself, too.
>
>Ryan>>




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nope, he was to have to wear a brace when he was a kid
>
>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 08:49:58 -0600
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>Subject: RE: [mw] Is McBrace Scottish?
>
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actually, you left pb-cle-raves because you were kicked off, just like you 
should be from mw-raves.

besides, you still lurk there with a hotmail account and think that none of 
us know it.  typical dumb chink.

>this is exactly why i left that god damned pb-cle-raves
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>believe, kids actually listen to his bullshit and he isn't
>booted yet!!!


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where in the world is carmen san diego.
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Stevie, it's not like you don't get the same stuff here...so stop your
bitching...as for michael...that would be "atypical", since typical
"chinks" aren't dumb.
Mr. Dinkins would you please be my mayor,
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> actually, you left pb-cle-raves because you were kicked off, just like you 
> should be from mw-raves.
> 
> besides, you still lurk there with a hotmail account and think that none of 
> us know it.  typical dumb chink.
> 
> >this is exactly why i left that god damned pb-cle-raves
> >list, because of this asshole, ryan m. bamboa!!!...i can't
> >believe, kids actually listen to his bullshit and he isn't
> >booted yet!!!
> 
> 
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In a message dated 2/3/100 5:11:11 AM EST, djgruve@home.net writes:

<< He was in the maze and sweeping the woodchips off the floor and heard a
 girls voice
 that was giggling,  luis jetted out of the room as fast as his mexican legs
 could run.
 I just found out about this tonight, on that friday before that party i was
 in the room by
 myself just checking around seeing if there were anymore things that needed
 to be
 brought out to the dumpster and i was in the maze part.  I had this weird
 feeling comeover
 me, which really freaked me out and I myself got out of that room. >>


yo?  thats fucked up !!!  call up fox network and maybe they will do a 
special on the photon !!!   

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james christian is a pretty crappy DJ. 

Everyone is entitled to their opinions.

does he really have a coke rider on his contract?

No.  Why?  Interested in booking him?

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In a message dated 2/3/100 8:19:12 AM EST, varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu 
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<< BE THERE!!!
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year of the dragon or jazzamaazz this weekend?

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Good Question where in TIME??? is carmen san
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There's a whole lot of nothin on your web site.

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Element Squad has done a lot of shady things in the past, but if they can 
have a good line up for a free partee, I'm all about that. Maybe the free 
idea is somethin thought up to regain some respect from a lot of kidz I know 
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I JUST remembered they threw GF4. What a terrible partee that was. Sure, I 
got to see Keoki spin, but the fact that I couldn't move 3inches to the right 
or left kinda hindered my experience. I do, in fact, think that ES owes 
people for that partee alone. I'll be at Transformation!

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In a message dated 2/3/00 5:52:13 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Steviet069@aol.com 
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<< this is exactly why i left that god damned pb-cle-raves
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 booted yet!!!
 
 everybody on this list should mail bomb this fool!!!
 
 his e-mail addy is below...
  >>

Lookz like I've finally met my Match,...Ima email him later and ask him how 
he "tends" his sheep so often *grin*
-Nicci


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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:56:06 EST, Kcaj123@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 2/3/100 8:19:12 AM EST, varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu 
>writes:
>
><< BE THERE!!!
>  >>
>
>year of the dragon or jazzamaazz this weekend?
>


Read more carefully.

It's MARCH 4th.

Personally, I recommend

"Blurred Senseless" in Minneapolis.

Huggie
Stryke
Adeptus
Lil' Arron
DJ Echo
Skyy

$18/$15 with canned food

651-220-9782

But if you are a house freak,
Jazzamatazz looks good.

Shit...wait a second.  I just looked at
the Jazzamatazz flyer and Huggie is
on it too (both being the L.A. Huggie).

I know the Minneapolis promoters and
they are reputable.  I don't know the
Chicago promoters, but have been told
they are cool too.  Hmmm... ???

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On Thu, 03 Feb 2000 13:20:52 -0600, Dynamic Groove wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:56:06 EST, Kcaj123@aol.com wrote:
>
>>In a message dated 2/3/100 8:19:12 AM EST, varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu 
>>writes:
>>
>><< BE THERE!!!
>>  >>
>>
>>year of the dragon or jazzamaazz this weekend?
>>
>Read more carefully.
>
>It's MARCH 4th.


Oh yeah, to prevent further confusion,
Jazzmatazz is on Feb 5th in Chicago
(773-509-5019)

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I'm doing a survey for a paper and I would appreciate it if a few of you
would answer my questions.  This is only for girls though.

1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
3.  Where do you live?
4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living outside the state of Michigan
    need to answer this one)?
5.  Are you bicurious?
6.  Do you have cute friends?
7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental type?

  Thanks for your help.  

    Kevin


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ha hah ha...a paper...right, sure.

Kevin Michael Robbins wrote:

> I'm doing a survey for a paper and I would appreciate it if a few of you
> would answer my questions.  This is only for girls though.
>
> 1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
> 2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
> 3.  Where do you live?
> 4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living outside the state of Michigan
>     need to answer this one)?
> 5.  Are you bicurious?
> 6.  Do you have cute friends?
> 7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental type?
>
>   Thanks for your help.
>
>     Kevin
>
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Peace.  That is funny as heck!

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Kevin Michael Robbins wrote:

> 
> I'm doing a survey for a paper and I would appreciate it if a few of you
> would answer my questions.  This is only for girls though.
> 
> 1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
> 2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
> 3.  Where do you live?
> 4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living outside the state of Michigan
>     need to answer this one)?
> 5.  Are you bicurious?
> 6.  Do you have cute friends?
> 7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental type?
> 
>   Thanks for your help.  
> 
>     Kevin
> 
> 
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Yeah, I was only gone for like a month.   I suck.

I missed you guys, though.  I'm on the digest now, and perhaps that won't 
fill my mailbox and take as much time.  

In the last two months, I somehow managed to run into and meet a bunch of you 
people and really liked it.  This last weekend I was in Chicago for 'No Place 
Like Home' (Where I had the BEST time!)  and recognized three of you just by 
pictures I've seen, and that was really cool.

Anyhow.  I'm back.  On the digest this time.  :)

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If he's anything like that post,
I have just met the Yin to my Yin.
:)

--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> this is exactly why i left that god damned
> pb-cle-raves
> list, because of this asshole, ryan m. bamboa!!!...i
> can't
> believe, kids actually listen to his bullshit and he
> isn't
> booted yet!!!
> 
> everybody on this list should mail bomb this fool!!!
> 
> his e-mail addy is below...
> 
> 
> In a message dated 2/3/0 3:56:06 PM, you wrote:
> 
> <<From: "Ryan M. Bambao" <rbambao@bw.edu>
> >Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 00:43:53 -0500
> >
> >
> >     Oh, and since you had to continue
> trash-talking me like the little
> >cocksucker that you are, I'll tell you this much. 
> As far as the
> >comment that I suck and that I fuck prostitutes, I
> don't need to suck
> >anything. I've got your street-whore mother for
> that.  She sucks my
> >dick all night long, but before I kick the bitch
> out of my house I
> >always take the time to throw her a quarter.  Gets
> her that much
> >closer to getting another crack-rock, which is
> apparently the only
> >thing that takes away the pain of having raised
> such a little piece of
> >shit as yourself.  So it's not like I'm really
> servicing a prostitute,
> >it's more like getting service from a gutter-slut
> and then giving her
> >a charitable donation.
> >
> >     As for you, since you obviously couldn't
> possibly get a woman, maybe
> >you should stick with the blow-up dolls.  Or put a
> bag over your head
> >and go into business with your mom.  I'm not
> personally into the gay
> >thing, but I'm sure you could find some guy kind
> enough to give you a
> >reach-around while he rails you in the ass.  And
> make a quick quarter
> >for yourself, too.
> >
> >Ryan>>
> 
> 
> 
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where's your mom?

--- dylan dorrell <ddorrell@hotmail.com> wrote:
> where's the porn?
>
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next to the beef

Jon Gotti wrote:

> where's your mom?

a poem on my fridge:

exloring my blind sister
make my meat pole wet sausage
she no see me rob her fish flower
milk melon dog fever

<snap> <snap> <snap>


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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:33:41 -0500 (EST), Kevin Michael Robbins wrote:

>
>I'm doing a survey for a paper and I would appreciate it if a few of you
>would answer my questions.  This is only for girls though.
>
>1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
>2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
>3.  Where do you live?
>4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living outside the state of Michigan
>    need to answer this one)?
>5.  Are you bicurious?
>6.  Do you have cute friends?
>7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental type?


You forgot:

8. Are you opposed to nude photography and/or video recording ?

and

9. Are you 18 years of age, or if under 18 will your parents sign this waiver ?

	;)



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Cinci? WHAT? Mr Pooh does indeed originate out of good ol Pittsburgh PA....
his site is merging with Selekta.com

same great content, just now he is working with some friends over at Selekta
to get more exposure, and bring the kids more of what they want...


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>>This was like a Cinci site or something ... had some great streaming sets,
>>but a corporate takeover!?! what the fuck? Does anybody know when (read:
>>IF)
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Anyone know who she was?  What her name was?  She died exactly 3 years ago?  
Was it reported in the news at all?  What is the name of the local Harvey 
community newspaper?  Is Harvey in Cook county?  Any info would be 
appreciated.

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 Can someone plz send me an e-flyer for Jazzmatazz??

 Thanks!

   *Shandi*
 

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:56:06 EST, Kcaj123@aol.com wrote:
> 
> >In a message dated 2/3/100 8:19:12 AM EST, varsha@tritium.ucs.indiana.edu 
> >writes:
> >
> ><< BE THERE!!!
> >  >>
> >
> >year of the dragon or jazzamaazz this weekend?
> >
> 
> 
> Read more carefully.
> 
> It's MARCH 4th.
> 
> Personally, I recommend
> 
> "Blurred Senseless" in Minneapolis.
> 
> Huggie
> Stryke
> Adeptus
> Lil' Arron
> DJ Echo
> Skyy
> 
> $18/$15 with canned food
> 
> 651-220-9782
> 
> But if you are a house freak,
> Jazzamatazz looks good.
> 
> Shit...wait a second.  I just looked at
> the Jazzamatazz flyer and Huggie is
> on it too (both being the L.A. Huggie).
> 
> I know the Minneapolis promoters and
> they are reputable.  I don't know the
> Chicago promoters, but have been told
> they are cool too.  Hmmm... ???
> 
> 	Joe
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>From: "kent christopher" <k.christopher@usa.net>
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>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:47:44 -0600
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:37 AM
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> > I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of
> > religous philosophy in a attempt to show that conciousness MUST exist in
> > order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot 
>off
> > any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).
>
>Check out Descartes. In his philosphical discussions, he questions reality
>to such a fundamental level that he must question his own existence.  He
>realizes that, simply because of the fact that he is able to ask such
>questions and contemplate such thoughts, he must at least be *something*.
>Because he is able to have thoughts, he knows that he must exist.  Hence 
>the
>phrase, "I think, therefore I am."
>
>-kent


yes decartes contributions to philosohpy cannot be understated and although 
I have never directly read any of his works, his influence on modern thought 
is undeniable (I see it every day thanks to Cartessian coordinates).

Still I am looking beyond the simple "I think therefore, I am."  Perhaps he 
himself elaborated further on this point and the above quote is the only 
fragment to make it to the common persons philosophical lexicon.

What did he mean by "I" in the quote? Is the converse true: "I do not think 
therefore I am not" or is it a paradox (the statement itself is a 
contradiction because it would take a thinking creature to say it).

What my ultimate goal is in my "free time" philosophy is to be able to say 
what conciousness is and whether or not it has to exist for anything to 
exist.

The ontological argument that I aluded in my original to is an attempt by 
ancient religous philosophers to prove that god exists because it is in the 
definition of "god" that he exists.

1. God =(def) the greatest possible being
2. God is a logically possible being.
3. Existence is a great making quality

Conclusion:  God must exist.
(It may take you a while to fully appreciate the nuances of this argument 
but it is logically sound, provided premise 2 and 3 are true.  I happen to 
disagree strongly with both premises BTW).

Now




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Ok... I remember there was a discussion about this a while
ago.  Anyway, even though I'm hardly ever on IRC anymore
I think it's kinda dumb to have #mw-raves and #mw.raves
so here's what I propose:

I forget who runs the #mw.raves bot(s) but to whomever
that is:

I propose merging the two channels, allowing all current
masters/ops on both channels to keep their status in the new
merged channel.  I also propose linking both botnets
together with a shared userlist for the new merged channel.

If you want to do this (I suppose everyone should be asked
on IRC when everyone is on) then if you send me the userlist
files to the #mw.raves bots I will merge the user list with
the #mw-raves bots (thus giving everyone the same access)
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Actually, you don't have to grant that God is logically possible, rather
you just state "God is perfect," "That which is perfect must exist,"
(existence is a positive thing, essentialy - anything that doesn't exist
isn't perfect) "therefore God exists."

It's basically Descartes' "I can think of it, it must exist" argument that
he also applied to math (i.e. perfect triangles, etc.)

The real big hole, as far as I've determined, is that what is perfect must
exist.  It's just a bad axiom IMHO.

And though he did a lot of great things for math and philosophy (e.g.
bringing them together to make formal philosophical proofs, etc) I'd say a
lot of his philosophy is quite off the mark.

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hey paul aren't you the guy that used to have "pro-death ravers" in your 
sig?!  is that why you're so interested?!?

At 03:13 PM 2/3/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Anyone know who she was?  What her name was?  She died exactly 3 years ago?
>Was it reported in the news at all?  What is the name of the local Harvey 
>community newspaper?  Is Harvey in Cook county?  Any info would be appreciated.
>
>Thanx
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we've already had this discussion.  i don't understand what the point of
this is?  there are thousands of irc channels so what's the problem?  Why
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same irc channel?

i don't need another 80 msgs in my inbox about this...maybe i'm just dumb...

bekka.

but ----- Original Message -----
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> Ok... I remember there was a discussion about this a while
> ago.  Anyway, even though I'm hardly ever on IRC anymore
> I think it's kinda dumb to have #mw-raves and #mw.raves
> so here's what I propose:
>
> I forget who runs the #mw.raves bot(s) but to whomever
> that is:
>
> I propose merging the two channels, allowing all current
> masters/ops on both channels to keep their status in the new
> merged channel.  I also propose linking both botnets
> together with a shared userlist for the new merged channel.
>
> If you want to do this (I suppose everyone should be asked
> on IRC when everyone is on) then if you send me the userlist
> files to the #mw.raves bots I will merge the user list with
> the #mw-raves bots (thus giving everyone the same access)
> and then the botnets can be safely joined.  As for whether the
> new channel is #mw-raves or #mw.raves, I don't care
> although #mw-raves matches the name of the list exactly so
> it would likely be what people would look for if they got on
> IRC and looked for a channel.
>
> Nobody on my 'side' (whatever that is) has any problem with
> this.
>
>
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oops my last message got sent before I was finished obviously...

I have tried for the last hour to put into words the rest of what I am 
trying to say but it keeps coming out wrong....

I probably would not have even sent that first email if I hadnt accidentally 
done so.

frustrating but maybe I will try again tomorrow.

Briefly though, so that my last email makes SOME sense if you read it, here 
is my still rough attempt to adopt the ontological argument to 
consciousness.

1: Consciousness =(def) awareness of something
2: Anti-consciousness =(def) awareness of nothing
3: All things must be either have some degree consciousness or 
anticonsciousness.
4: Awareness of nothing is a contradiction.
5: No things have anticonsciousness.

conclusion: All things have consciousness.

(Note:  This is a VERY poor proof but it at least shows you the lines I am 
thinking along.  Again I have tried very hard to say what it is I am 
thinking but I find it difficult.  This is really not at all close to what I 
am trying to prove......FUK)

At least I have learned where the weak points are in my ideas so all is not 
for naught.

very sorry,
adam

>From: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>To: k.christopher@usa.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Hist of LSD on again now...
>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 16:25:08 EST
>
>
>
>
>>From: "kent christopher" <k.christopher@usa.net>
>>Reply-To: "kent christopher" <k.christopher@usa.net>
>>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>>Subject: Re: [mw] Hist of LSD on again now...
>>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:47:44 -0600
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:37 AM
>>Subject: Re: [mw] Hist of LSD on again now...
>> > I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of
>> > religious philosophy in a attempt to show that consciousness MUST exist 
>>in
>> > order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot
>>off
>> > any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).
>>
>>Check out Descartes. In his philosphical discussions, he questions reality
>>to such a fundamental level that he must question his own existence.  He
>>realizes that, simply because of the fact that he is able to ask such
>>questions and contemplate such thoughts, he must at least be *something*.
>>Because he is able to have thoughts, he knows that he must exist.  Hence
>>the
>>phrase, "I think, therefore I am."
>>
>>-kent
>
>
>yes decartes contributions to philosophy cannot be understated and although
>I have never directly read any of his works, his influence on modern 
>thought
>is undeniable (I see it every day thanks to Cartesian coordinates).
>
>Still I am looking beyond the simple "I think therefore, I am."  Perhaps he
>himself elaborated further on this point and the above quote is the only
>fragment to make it to the common persons philosophical lexicon.
>
>What did he mean by "I" in the quote? Is the converse true: "I do not think
>therefore I am not" or is it a paradox (the statement itself is a
>contradiction because it would take a thinking creature to say it).
>
>What my ultimate goal is in my "free time" philosophy is to be able to say
>what consciousness is and whether or not it has to exist for anything to
>exist.
>
>The ontological argument that I alluded in my original to is an attempt by
>ancient religious philosophers to prove that god exists because it is in 
>the
>definition of "god" that he exists.
>
>1. God =(def) the greatest possible being
>2. God is a logically possible being.
>3. Existence is a great making quality
>
>Conclusion:  God must exist.
>(It may take you a while to fully appreciate the nuances of this argument
>but it is logically sound, provided premise 2 and 3 are true.  I happen to
>disagree strongly with both premises BTW).
>
>
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Dynamic Groove wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:33:41 -0500 (EST), Kevin Michael Robbins wrote:
>
> >
> >I'm doing a survey for a paper and I would appreciate it if a few of you
> >would answer my questions.  This is only for girls though.
> >
> >1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
> >2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
> >3.  Where do you live?
> >4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living outside the state of Michigan
> >    need to answer this one)?
> >5.  Are you bicurious?
> >6.  Do you have cute friends?
> >7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental type?
>
> You forgot:
>
> 8. Are you opposed to nude photography and/or video recording ?
>
> and
>
> 9. Are you 18 years of age, or if under 18 will your parents sign this waiver ?

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<lisa_bi_fem_17> i was trying to get onto #mwraves but they are mean
<bekka> this isn't #mw-raves
<Tsarrio> i am a trance dj
<VHN> hey Tsarrio, trance sucks!
<lisa_bi_fem_17> so what is this, what's the diff btw #mw-raves, and 
#mw.raves, and #mwraves
<dica> balls in your mouth

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In a message dated 2/3/0 7:32:04 AM, ihaveissuez wrote:

<<Please excuse this..Stevie was drunk and thought he'd be 
sneeky and run off while me and Opiez we're occuppied 
watching American Pie!
-Nicci>>

oh nicci, nicci yur so fine, yur so fine, you blow my mind!!
...hey nicci!!...hey nicci!...

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In a message dated 2/3/0 6:05:48 PM, michael mckrusty wrote:

<<typical dumb chink.>>

i'm dumb?...who's the one tryin to shoot glo-sticks outta
his ass & makin a mess of himself, friggin jolly pirate
flamer!!

it's one thing to joke around,  but now're your racist comments 
are getting way outta hand!!

if you're so white supremist, then how come you were hittin
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Adam Meadows wrote:

> 
> oops my last message got sent before I was finished obviously...
> 
> I have tried for the last hour to put into words the rest of what I am 
> trying to say but it keeps coming out wrong....
> 
> I probably would not have even sent that first email if I hadnt accidentally 
> done so.
> 
> frustrating but maybe I will try again tomorrow.
> 
> Briefly though, so that my last email makes SOME sense if you read it, here 
> is my still rough attempt to adopt the ontological argument to 
> consciousness.
> 
> 1: Consciousness =(def) awareness of something
> 2: Anti-consciousness =(def) awareness of nothing
> 3: All things must be either have some degree consciousness or 
> anticonsciousness.
> 4: Awareness of nothing is a contradiction.
> 5: No things have anticonsciousness.
> 
> conclusion: All things have consciousness.
> 
> (Note:  This is a VERY poor proof but it at least shows you the lines I am 
> thinking along.  Again I have tried very hard to say what it is I am 
> thinking but I find it difficult.  This is really not at all close to what I 
> am trying to prove......FUK)
> 
> At least I have learned where the weak points are in my ideas so all is not 
> for naught.
> 
> very sorry,
> adam
> 
> >From: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
> >To: k.christopher@usa.net, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Hist of LSD on again now...
> >Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 16:25:08 EST
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "kent christopher" <k.christopher@usa.net>
> >>Reply-To: "kent christopher" <k.christopher@usa.net>
> >>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [mw] Hist of LSD on again now...
> >>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:47:44 -0600
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
> >>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 12:37 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [mw] Hist of LSD on again now...
> >> > I am trying to adapt the "Ontological" argument of
> >> > religious philosophy in a attempt to show that consciousness MUST exist 
> >>in
> >> > order for ANYTHING to exist.  A creative thought perhaps but I cannot
> >>off
> >> > any logical proof as of yet.  I am not even sure what I mean...).
> >>
> >>Check out Descartes. In his philosphical discussions, he questions reality
> >>to such a fundamental level that he must question his own existence.  He
> >>realizes that, simply because of the fact that he is able to ask such
> >>questions and contemplate such thoughts, he must at least be *something*.
> >>Because he is able to have thoughts, he knows that he must exist.  Hence
> >>the
> >>phrase, "I think, therefore I am."
> >>
> >>-kent
> >
> >
> >yes decartes contributions to philosophy cannot be understated and although
> >I have never directly read any of his works, his influence on modern 
> >thought
> >is undeniable (I see it every day thanks to Cartesian coordinates).
> >
> >Still I am looking beyond the simple "I think therefore, I am."  Perhaps he
> >himself elaborated further on this point and the above quote is the only
> >fragment to make it to the common persons philosophical lexicon.
> >
> >What did he mean by "I" in the quote? Is the converse true: "I do not think
> >therefore I am not" or is it a paradox (the statement itself is a
> >contradiction because it would take a thinking creature to say it).
> >
> >What my ultimate goal is in my "free time" philosophy is to be able to say
> >what consciousness is and whether or not it has to exist for anything to
> >exist.
> >
> >The ontological argument that I alluded in my original to is an attempt by
> >ancient religious philosophers to prove that god exists because it is in 
> >the
> >definition of "god" that he exists.
> >
> >1. God =(def) the greatest possible being
> >2. God is a logically possible being.
> >3. Existence is a great making quality
> >
> >Conclusion:  God must exist.
> >(It may take you a while to fully appreciate the nuances of this argument
> >but it is logically sound, provided premise 2 and 3 are true.  I happen to
> >disagree strongly with both premises BTW).
> >
> >
> >
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pro-death ravers???  naw, not sure what that was.

I have a thing about dead people...I always try to honor them if I can.  I 
feel if I know them and something about them then they aren't dead because 
the memory of them exist in me.  My first dead body was a couple of years 
ago...a man named Thomas Russell.  He died alone and I felt honored to have 
come across him...like I was able to keep his memory alive.  My most famous 
dead body was Chris Farley.  I'm not religious but if there is another party 
at Photon one of my friends is going to do a small ceremony thing in order 
to release the girl.  If it helps her on her way then great.

Ya know how they have the vietnam memorial wall.  And the names of the dead 
are listed.  I'd like to do a web site, like a virtual wall for party kids 
that have passed on.  So they aren't just a statistic, or a name to be used 
in the war against drugs propaganda machine.  They were people, like all of 
us, with names, and families and friends...hopes and dreams.

Maybe if the girl was educated just a little bit more or was loved just a 
little bit more than maybe she wouldn't be dead.  Come on peeps, take care 
of each other!

PJ


>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>Reply-To: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] dead girl at photon
>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 17:14:04 -0600
>
>hey paul aren't you the guy that used to have "pro-death ravers" in your
>sig?!  is that why you're so interested?!?
>
>At 03:13 PM 2/3/00 -0600, you wrote:
>>Anyone know who she was?  What her name was?  She died exactly 3 years 
>>ago?
>>Was it reported in the news at all?  What is the name of the local Harvey
>>community newspaper?  Is Harvey in Cook county?  Any info would be 
>>appreciated.
>>
>>Thanx
>>
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In a message dated 2/3/0 6:11:37 PM, you wrote:

<<as for michael...that would be "atypical", since typical
"chinks" aren't dumb.>>

i rest my case, on the obvious ignorance of mr. mcrusty.

plus it's not like he's pure white, mcrusty sounds pretty
irish to me...and the irish as well as the italians were
disdained just as equally by pure white americans back 
in the day (i believe the irish were stereotyped  as "micks" 
and the italians were dubbed as "guidos")...this was how 
organized crime was concieved in america...when it was 
obvious they were getting shafted for the jobs, they were 
forced to turn to other means to make ends meet...irony was, 
most of the irish became cops (but it was more for the 
protection of the assets of the rich pure white americans) 
and most of their busts were italians that had been forced 
into organized crime...and most of the organized crime was 
the killing of other italians ala mob hits...

this tradition, continued with the blacks ala gangs and
drive-bys later on...

i just don't understand why they would turn against each other 
instead of their true oppressors, the fat white americans that 
got richer & richer by taking advantage of the various minorities 
throughout the ages...

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Ihey michael..did you go see dj swamp last nite? i was wondering how that 
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In a message dated 2/3/00 11:04:14 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Steviet069@aol.com 
writes:

<< if you're so white supremist, then how come you were hittin
 on my roomie nicci/ihaveissuez on IM?...she's part asian!!! >>

stevie lol..it wasn't him..it was someone else who spins here ;p

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In a message dated 2/3/0 11:42:26 PM, nicci wrote:

<<stevie lol..it wasn't him..it was someone else who spins here ;p>>

nicci, dj michael mcknight and michael mccrusty
are one & the same...he just changed his last name
when he became a dj, he figured it would make him
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 03 23:52:38 2000
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> 
> 1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?

No.

> 2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?

Upside down and backwards.

> 3.  Where do you live?

Urbana.

> 4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living outside the state of Michigan
>     need to answer this one)?

Yes! But I don't have a car!

> 5.  Are you bicurious?

Yup. Are you?

> 6.  Do you have cute friends?

Lots of them!!

> 7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental type?
> 
I love IDM!!

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i think thats a great idea yes yes yes someone should do that.. if i had the 
knowledge id do i. alas i dont. buti can help





 Time, pauljdoyle@hotmail.com writes:

 
 Ya know how they have the vietnam memorial wall.  And the names of the dead 
 are listed.  I'd like to do a web site, like a virtual wall for party kids 
 that have passed on.  So they aren't just a statistic, or a name to be used 
 in the war against drugs propaganda machine.  They were people, like all of 
 us, with names, and families and friends...hopes and dreams.
 
 Maybe if the girl was educated just a little bit more or was loved just a 
 little bit more than maybe she wouldn't be dead.  Come on peeps, take care 
 of each other!
 
 PJ
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HEY!!!  That's greasy wop to you mister!!  

By the way....your explanation for organized crime is ridiculous. 
Obviously, it was clear that making tons o' loot the gangster way was 50
times better than any shitty americana job.  Besides....tommy guns are
cool!!!

Senor Guido



On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:32:56 EST Steviet069@aol.com writes:

> (i believe the irish were stereotyped  as "micks" 
> and the italians were dubbed as "guidos")...this was how 
> organized crime was concieved in america...when it was 
> obvious they were getting shafted for the jobs, they were 
> forced to turn to other means to make ends meet...irony was, 
> most of the irish became cops (but it was more for the 
> protection of the assets of the rich pure white americans) 
> and most of their busts were italians that had been forced 
> into organized crime...and most of the organized crime was 
> the killing of other italians ala mob hits...

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Courts of Chaos
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5.6.00

the lineup so far is:
T-1000
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i need some entertainment...

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I control the ratings on T.V.!!!

So far, I've watched two episodes of MASH on F.X., and I'm now 
watching "The Worlds Deadliest Volcanoes" on T.L.C.  I rule!!  I rule 
the television ratings system!!  I am the bloody entertainment 
future!!!


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They should also note that I'm drunk.  Just think, a DrunkenFool=81 is=20
participating in the system that controls what you watch on T.V.

That is how it should be, in my opinion.

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> please keep in mind that this event is sponsored by a university, so don't
> plan to behave in ways or bring anything your mother wouldn't approve of.

Lemme see if I understand this.  This means that I *can't* bring my 7
jars of rolls, 3 sheets of acid, bottle of GHB, and enough K to last a
vet through the Y3K problem?

What the hell do you expect us to do there!!!  I'd much rather just sit
home and listen to my Happy 2B Hardcore and Ron D. Core cds.
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> Briefly though, so that my last email makes SOME sense if you read it, here
> is my still rough attempt to adopt the ontological argument to
> consciousness.
> 
> 1: Consciousness =(def) awareness of something
> 2: Anti-consciousness =(def) awareness of nothing
> 3: All things must be either have some degree consciousness or
> anticonsciousness.
> 4: Awareness of nothing is a contradiction.
> 5: No things have anticonsciousness.
> 
> conclusion: All things have consciousness.

No, that doesn't work.  Here's what I'd say the problem is.  The
opposite of consciousness isn't awareness of nothing.  Let's first
change something to anything, though, because that makes it clearer.  So
if consciousness is awareness of something, then anti-consciousness
would be not aware of anything.  Which pretty much describes anything
that isn't living.

But then again, what exactly is the opposite of something?  Most people
would say that the opposite of black is white, but then what would be
the opposite of oh let's say a can of Pepsi (Wild Cherry,
motherfuckers)?  The only thing that you can really boil down the
opposite to is just not and then whatever the thing was.  So the
opposite of Pepsi is not-Pepsi.  Or maybe the opposite of something is
it's anti-matter version of it.  Or maybe the opposite of something is
just to take all the protons and replace them with electrons and vice
versa.  Good luck shoving all those electrons into the nucleus of an
atom, though.

-- 

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hey peeps...a  friend of mine needs bookin info for
glaude...any body have any idea?

email me privately plz

thanks
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is anyone going to century that wants to meet up?  i will have on one of 
those reflective silver type shirts...  feel free to stop and say hi.  =)


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HEY!
propagandhi is *not* pop punk. imho.
example. queers=pop punk
         propagandhi= NOT pop punk. maybe just political punk. or            
            somethin.
hmph.
:p
-val



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>guys degenerate into talking about pop-punk
>all too often.


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In a message dated 2/4/0 1:00:18 AM, psy-jester wrote:

<<i need some entertainment...

jester>>

go & mail bomb ryan bimbo!!

how come i alwaze gotta provide all the entertainment
all the time on this list?

i should get paid for this!


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In a message dated 2/3/2000 9:34:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
valerieev@hotmail.com writes:

<< example. queers=pop punk
          propagandhi= NOT pop punk. maybe just political punk. or            
             somethin. >>
it depends on what age of the Queers you're talkin about Val. The Queers 
weren't really to pop when they first started playing, but now, hell yeah 
they're pop as hell. But still not as pop as fukkin Blink 182

waiting for Bikini Kill to play in his living room........
shawne

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oh yeah...i forgot about how old you are shawne....
hahahahaha
;p
-val
btw..yeah i guess you're right..old man



what age of the Queers you're talkin about Val. The Queers
>weren't really to pop when they first started playing, but now, hell yeah
>they're pop as hell.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 02:59:35 2000
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I am looking to book both me and my ass for the following dates:

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In a message dated 2/3/2000 9:53:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
valerieev@hotmail.com writes:

<< oh yeah...i forgot about how old you are shawne....
 hahahahaha
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 btw..yeah i guess you're right..old man
  >>

dont make this old man come lookin for his share of the $10

not scared of the MAP temper
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                     Little Red Raver Girl
                            by
                      Noah "juggler" Lee
              (respect to the original of course)
[ed's note: This evolved from a trip to Albuquerque for the Orbital X
rave. We had to keep ourselves entertained on the four hour drive with
no radio or tape deck. Gotta do something!!]

Once upon a time, cuz, heck, what better time than that, there lived
Little Red Raver Girl. She was a happy little girl who loved to wear
baggy overalls and the grooviest striped shirts. Her red pigtails and
keen shoes could charm the Blow-Pop (tm) out of any raver's mouth.

Well, it seems that Little Red Raver Girls's promoter grandmother was
not feeling so hot cuz an event she was throwing wasn't going so great.
Little Red Raver Girl decided to take a skippity trip over to her
grandma' s house to deliver some lollipops, a new whistle, and a hit of
X. She only wanted Grandma Promoter to feel better. :)

Little Red Raver Girl set out into the scary city with a warning from
her tired out hippy mother, who warned her of the evils of the world. As
usual it went in one ear and out the other. Little Red Raver Girl only
wanted peaz and unity and didn't like to hear about the bad people out
there because they gave off such bad vibes.

Hippity, trippy skipping down the avenue whistling some housy, funky
toon, Little Red Raver Girl hardly noticed the Big Bad Gothic Girl come
out of the shadows of an alley.

"Whoa!" said Little Red Raver Girl, "You put quite a fright into me!"

"Yeah, whats new?" angrily replied the Big Bad Gothic Girl.

"Hey, you wanna sticker? I got heart stickers!! Or how about a
lollipop?" asked Little Red Raver Girl.

"Nah, I don't want no stinking lollipop," gothically replied Big Bad
Gothic Girl. "Where you think you're headed to in this dark, cold,
miserable world of ours??"

"Well," said Little Red Raver Girl, "i'm off to see Grandma Promoter to
deliver some goodies so she can be happy and throw the phattest event
this side of the world."

"Big event eh?" interestingly replied Big Bad Gothic Girl. She thought
to herself, "Hmmmm....you know I bet if I get those goodies I could
throw a dark, scary event the way I want it."

"Well, I best be off now. Peace, love and unity to you Ms. Gothic Girl."


"Uhh...yeah, sure."

And Little Red Raver Girl was off. But so was Big Bad Gothic Girl.
Seeing as how she hung out in dark alleys all night she happened to know
a shortcut to Grandma Promoter's warehouse. She sped ahead to beat
Little Red Raver Girl there.

Little Red Raver Girl continued on her way wondering why someone would
paint their face chalk white and wear all black clothing on such a
beautiful day. Just as she was daytripping this she ran into a funky
phresh young man stepping from a record store.

"Yowza!" exclaimed Little Bloo DJ Guy, "Sorry about the bumping action
there."

"Oh excuse me! I wasn't watching where I was going. Would you like a
sticker? A lollipop?"

"Yeah! Sure! Thanks a lot!"

"Here ya go," said Little Red Raver Girl as she stuck on a groovy frog
sticker onto Little Bloo DJ Guy's chest. She hands him a lollipop and
asks, "Are you a DJ by any chance?"

"I certainly am! In fact i'm supposed to be spinning later at Grandma
Promoters event. You going??"

"Yesssss!!! I'm her granddaughter! I'm Little Red Raver Girl! I bet you
are Little Bloo DJ Guy then!" exclaimed she. Quite a good guess too
seeing as how he had on a bloo hoody shirt with "Bloo DJ" in holographic
type on it. She's quite the quick witted one ya know. :)

"Yep! That's me! I'm sooo happy to meet you! Hey, I gotta run but i'm
going over to Grandma Promoter's Houze of Funky Toons for the Pre-Party,
so I hope I see you there," said Little Bloo DJ Guy.

"You sure will. Be seeing you later!" happily exclaimed Little Red Raver
Girl. And off went Little Bloo Dj Guy. Little Red Raver Girl breathed a
sigh, for Little Bloo DJ Guy was sooo sweet and just the nicest guy she
had met in the longest time. She really wanted to hear him spin and get
to know him better. "Maybe at the pre-show," she excitedly thought.

[Meanwhile...]

Back at Grandma Promoter's Houze of Funky Toons, the bass was bumping as
Grandma prepared for the rave and was stressing hard getting ready for
the show. Then, all of a sudden a "ding, dong, boom boom boom" came from
her specially designed doorbell.

"Who is it??" asked Grandma Promoter.

"Tis me! Little Red Raver Girl" replied a slightly gruff and not quite
happy voice.

"I best let her in to help me and cheer her up. She sounds as bad as I
do!" thought Grandma Promoter to herself and opened the door.

As soon as she had in leaped Big Bad Gothic Girl and she quickly tied up
Grandma Promoter in a extra long pair of fishnet stockings and
handcuffed her to the sink in the bathroom with her handcuff belt.

"You can't do this! It doesn't promote peace and unity!" cried Grandma
Promoter. "Lemme go and i'll hook you up with a hit of X and you can
dance all night with us and feel the groove. I guarantee you'll feel
better."

"Nice try grandma. Stuff it," and Big Bad Gothic Girl promptly crammed a
black candle into Grandma Promoter's mouth to quiet her down. She then
went on to change the music to something much less happy and got into
some of Grandma's clothes. "Ick...these are soooo bright and happy. I
think i'll throw up."

At just about the time she was done there came a sound in the warehouse,
"ding, dong boom boom boom."

"Yeah, who is it??" asked Big Bad Gothic Girl who was now dressed like
Grandma Promoter.

"It's me!! Little Red Raver Girl!!" came the reply. "Let me in Grandma!
We need to change that music and make you feel phresh!"

Big Bad Gothic Girl opened the door and let Little Red Raver Girl in.

"Why Grandma! What a pale, icky, clammy white face you have!" said
Little Red Raver Girl.

"The better to scare you with my dear." came the reply.

"Why Grandma! What morbid, black fingernails you have!" exclaimed Little
Red Raver Girl.

"The better to scratch off your face with you little happy hippie wanna
be!!" yelled Big Bad Gothic Girl and she LEAPED from her baggies and
pounced on Little Red Raver Girl.

Just at that moment the door swung open and in sped Little Bloo DJ Guy
with his patented Bag O' DJ Music. He rapidly threw on the phattest of
toons and started spinning and cutting it up as best as he could.

As he did this, a strange feeling overcame Big Bad Gothic Girl. She felt
a pumping bass shaking her body. She felt a warmth overcome her entire
soul. She wanted to stop almost, but she couldn't help herself from
getting up off of Little Red Raver Girl and dance. She got down. She
boogied. She threw massive moves. Little Red Raver Girl rushed to the
john and freed Grandma Promoter. They went out to the dancefloor right
as a large crowd had gathered at the door. The pre-party was in full
effect and at the heart of it was Big Bad Gothic Girl dancing everyone
into amazement. She gave everyone a hug and some a kiss she felt so
good. The vibe was the best they had ever felt that night. Grandma's
event went off like never before and was of legend promoter proportions.
Little Bloo Dj Guy spun his best set and fell deeply in love with Little
Red Raver Girl to everyones happiness.

And they lived happily ever after.

T h e E n d.

[The people in this story are totally fictional and any relation to
anyone in real life is purely coincidence. Heck, I made it up on a trip
for Christs sake!! :) Hope you liked it. You can reprint it, distribute
it to anywhere you want as long as you don't modify it and keep my name
attached to it as the author. Peace to all of you and keep the vibe
alive. - - - Juggler [Noah Lee - ih23@utep.bitnet]

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I need help.  Here is my situation:

I am the head of a brand new production company in the central Ohio area 
(mainly Columbus) named Sub-Atomik Produktions.  It mainly consists of me, 
an 18 year old kid, just out of high school, my friend Nellie, another 18 
year old just out of high school, and my brother (my best friend who is so 
close he could be considered my brother) Dave, a 17 year old in high school. 
  Our first event was going to be March 18, and it was going to be a benefit 
show to collect canned goods for the Columbus homeless shelter and to raise 
money to pay for surgery for my fiance, who has the possiblility of getting 
cancer and dying if she does not recieve it.  But being generally the three 
of us, and not having very high paying jobs, we have no money to pay for the 
event (this is after 3 different investors had at first told us that they 
would invest money, and then pull out on us) and no way to raise the money.  
I have access to all the elements needed to throw the event, and I already 
have a lineup booked (most of which need deposits), I have the venue 
(deposit needed), I have the flyers designed, and I have the access to all 
the lighting, sound, and visual equipment that I need to throw a small to 
medium sized event.  Asside from this being a benefit event, I was wanting 
to throw this event to give back to the Ohio kids and to get some of the 
underground DJ's out there played and in front of an audience.  This is the 
only way that I can think of to raise money for my fiance's sugery.  If 
there is any promoters/ravers out there that could/would be willing to help 
out with our money situation (or can help with finding DJ's to play for free 
or cheaply), please feel free to email me back, or you can call me at 
614.871.7711, or you can send me some snail mail to the following address:

Nik Zorich
3442 Red Cedar Ct.
Grove City, OH 43123

Like I said, if there would be anyone out there that would be willing to 
help or that could help, it would be more than greatly appreciated, and 
would be considered a godsend.  Please keep it real, and keep the good vibes 
flowing.

*HugZ*
Nik
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> As for whether the
> new channel is #mw-raves or #mw.raves, I don't care
> although #mw-raves matches the name of the list exactly so
> it would likely be what people would look for if they got on
> IRC and looked for a channel.

heh, wouldn't that imply that you'd find list ppl there?  =P


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doris wrote:

> > As for whether the
> > new channel is #mw-raves or #mw.raves, I don't care
> > although #mw-raves matches the name of the list exactly so
> > it would likely be what people would look for if they got on
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>
> heh, wouldn't that imply that you'd find list ppl there?  =P

Oh well.. since there's no interest I'm probably going to kill all the
bots that run that channel soon.  I'm never on IRC that much anyway.



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http://www.seanbaby.com/oldstuff/fiction/rave.htm

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In a message dated 2/4/00 12:03:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Steviet069@aol.com 
writes:

<< nicci, dj michael mcknight and michael mccrusty
 are one & the same...he just changed his last name
 when he became a dj, he figured it would make him
 sound that much more white or somethin'.... >>

that is the one after me!

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HELLO!!  obviously you have AIM.  please don't involve 500 people in your
private conversations.

i can't speak for everybody on this list, but unless i know you and/or
you're cool, i don't care about your private life.


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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 IHavelssuez@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/4/00 12:03:06 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Steviet069@aol.com 
> writes:
> 
> << nicci, dj michael mcknight and michael mccrusty
>  are one & the same...he just changed his last name
>  when he became a dj, he figured it would make him
>  sound that much more white or somethin'.... >>
> 
> that is the one after me!
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you get extra credit if you actually know who noah is... =)
god that story made me feel old as all hell. =)

-Becky =)

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>you get extra credit if you actually know who noah is... =)
>god that story made me feel old as all hell. =)

you and me both, becky.  God it's been what...5...6 years?

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>
>if you're so white supremist, then how come you were hittin
>on my roomie nicci/ihaveissuez on IM?...she's part asian!!!

because, as i've explained before stevie...i only use racist insults when i 
don't like the particular person in question.  just like fat jokes, ugly 
jokes, handicapped jokes, etc etc etc.  and i don't recall hitting on your 
"roomie" (do you actually live together yet?) on ICQ (which is prolly what 
you mean since i don't get on AIM) - for christ's sake i've not even met 
her.  besides, as a general rule asian girls are yummy anyway.  so shut the 
fuck up, four-eyes.

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>From: Jonny Brashear <jbrashear@verio.net>
>Reply-To: Jonny Brashear <jbrashear@verio.net>
>To: txraves@onramp.net
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>
>http://www.interrupt-media.com/
>*drool*
>
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chad sponholz is gay.
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they are totally new school punk ... they have that popy sound for sure .... 
in other words they do sound like NOFX and NOFX is pretty popy if u ask me 
... but who gives a shit .. I LOVE PROPHAGANDI...

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Is'nt Huxley a sci-fic writer;a contemporary of Bradberry? Did he actually 
write a book about the LSD study or is it just kind of a futuristic trippy 
read? Just Curious, (I need a good read) Biba


>From: Doris Woo <amene_wood@yahoo.com>
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>
> >that was Martin Lee author of "Acid Dreams", which if
>you're interested
> >in the complex history of LSD, is THE book to read on
>the subject.
>
>A couple of other good reads on the topic (or similar
>to it) are:
>
>The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley
>Storming Heaven, Jay Stevens
>
>The latter is a thick read and rather slow and dry at
>spots, but if you're a history buff you'll probably
>get into it.  "Doors of Perception" was pretty good,
>and let me rethink lots of worldly, um, perceptions.
>It's like reading an erudite diary of someone's
>mescalin trip.
>
>Cheers,
>Doris
>
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If someone decided to hate you it would be because what you wrote was pretty 
damn skeezy; grow up.


>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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>
>
>>
>>keep yer slobbering testosterone-induced comments to yerself...
>
>*sing-songy voice* some-body's jeal-ous!
>
>hahahahahhaha.  please, stop hating on me just cos i have a penis.  thanks!
>
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did you say chad sponholz is god???

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Can't take any TMBG's references at the moment. Had to sit thru "Birdhouse 
in your soul" and "She's an Angel" like 1 billion times this weekend. 
Please; it's like Cryptonite to me at the moment!

>From: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
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>Subject: Re: [mw] Even Day.
>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:00:09 -0600
>
>
> > >     During even-numbered years it is, but we haven't had an even
>numbered
> > > year since 888...
> >
> > what about 1000? what about 1998? huh? huh? Your dumb, your dumb, na na 
>na
> > na
>
>     What about yer MOM? anything with a 1 in it isn't an all-evens year... 
>1
>was even till about 600AD, but then they decided it was gonna be odd. Dunno
>why, used to be constantinople, now it's istanbul, not constantinople... 
>Why
>did constantinople get the works? That's nobody's business but the turks...
>Don't ask me, I don't make the rules, I just follow 'em...
>
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>
>i should get paid for this!

the sad thing is, you probably really belive this.  DAMN THE FAT RICH WHITE 
MAN, eh stevie?  life's a bitch.


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In a message dated 2/4/00 7:55:02 AM !!!First Boot!!!, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< the sad thing is, you probably really belive this.  DAMN THE FAT RICH 
WHITE 
 MAN, eh stevie?  life's a bitch.
  >>

Do we ever not fight? Please people! I'm trying to order things from 
fredricks of Hollywood!
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it's all about Tony Magnusson's fuckin' HELLCAVE board...
that thing was like a boat with a two inch dip in the middle of it...

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>
>actually, you left pb-cle-raves because you were kicked off, just like you
>should be from mw-raves.
>
>besides, you still lurk there with a hotmail account and think that none of
>us know it.  typical dumb chink.
>

  Dude that is simply wrong, even if you do hate Stevie.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 08:09:38 2000
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2000, Jaimmie Marx wrote:

+chad sponholz is gay.

jaimmie, that was a nice try, but you need to be more convincing.

but, since it's finally out and we're on topic...
would your brother go out with me?  i'd go easy on him.
fine firm rump on that boy.  didn't you ever fantasize about him?
who am i kidding?!? how could you not?!?!

that one was for free.

love,
chad

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would you guys shut up about Propagandhi...

I mean.. fuck...

I'm not on a foreign rave list so I can read about punk bands from my
home town...


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how much credit do you get if you 'helped' him pose for incriminating
photos with stuffed animals in the home-town of DR JOHNNY FEVER in '97??

Just curious.


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anyone else out there play this game?? any1 wanna play  preferably people 
with a fast internet connection and close to me... cincy ohio

im on roadrunner so lets play!!!!!



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I've tired of the real time strategy games (sore wrists) - right now my game
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> anyone else out there play this game?? any1 wanna play  preferably people
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> im on roadrunner so lets play!!!!!
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In a message dated 04/02/00 2:38:00 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< did you say chad sponholz is god???
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no i think she said chad sponholz is good in bed.

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Yes...  Huxley was the author Brave New World, for example...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 13:10:35 2000
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Huxley wrote Brave New World, which is what you may be thinking of when you 
refer to "sci-fi"...it's a fairly decent read. The drug-related type book he 
wrote though, in addition to many others, was "The Doors of Perception" 
which is where Jim Morrison and the boys took their band name. Huxley did 
believe that certain hallucinogenic drugs could help one expend their mind; 
however, he was NOT an advocate of recreationsl drug use, contrary to 
popular belief, and many of his philosophies have been twisted so that many 
people believe him to be the father and advocate of drug abuse. (which is 
untrue)

kitten


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>Is'nt Huxley a sci-fic writer;a contemporary of Bradberry? Did he actually
>write a book about the LSD study or is it just kind of a futuristic trippy
>read? Just Curious, (I need a good read) Biba
>
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>>From: Doris Woo <amene_wood@yahoo.com>
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>>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:19:14 -0800 (PST)
>>
>> >that was Martin Lee author of "Acid Dreams", which if
>>you're interested
>> >in the complex history of LSD, is THE book to read on
>>the subject.
>>
>>A couple of other good reads on the topic (or similar
>>to it) are:
>>
>>The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley
>>Storming Heaven, Jay Stevens
>>
>>The latter is a thick read and rather slow and dry at
>>spots, but if you're a history buff you'll probably
>>get into it.  "Doors of Perception" was pretty good,
>>and let me rethink lots of worldly, um, perceptions.
>>It's like reading an erudite diary of someone's
>>mescalin trip.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Doris
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>From: "Biba Gypsychilde" <sequin_prism@hotmail.com>
>
>Is'nt Huxley a sci-fic writer;a contemporary of Bradberry? Did he actually
>write a book about the LSD study or is it just kind of a futuristic trippy
>read? Just Curious, (I need a good read) Biba
>


I have read Doors of Perception and its not an easy read.  Doesnt mean its 
not good but the language he uses does not make it very accessible.  He 
talks about a single mescaline trip he experienced and its influence on his 
perception of reality (especially relating to his physical senses).  He 
touches on some deep philosophical topics if you pay close enough 
attention...

Funny, in high school my two favorite books I was forced to read were "One 
Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest" (By Ken Kesey who credited his creativity in 
the novel to LSD use BTW) and "Brave New World" (By Huxley. I have always 
felt this book was grossly misinterpreted by most who read it but thats 
another topic).

Thats what we might call foreshadowing class...

maybe not,
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, dj fishead wrote:

you get major extra credit. enough to boost you up an entire letter grade!
especially if you bring them in for show and tell. =)


> how much credit do you get if you 'helped' him pose for incriminating
> photos with stuffed animals in the home-town of DR JOHNNY FEVER in '97??
> 
> Just curious.

-Becky =)

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Its all about Rancid
that will be all

--- Gabberizer@aol.com wrote:
> they are totally new school punk ... they have that
> popy sound for sure .... 
> in other words they do sound like NOFX and NOFX is
> pretty popy if u ask me 
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look out columbus, here i come!


if for anyone reason, someone would like to meet me there at the party lemme 
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and I'm looking for some HARD djs, get in touch (i mean HAARRRRDDDD!)


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At 02:17 AM 2/4/00 -0600, you wrote:
>how much credit do you get if you 'helped' him pose for incriminating
>photos with stuffed animals in the home-town of DR JOHNNY FEVER in '97??
>
>Just curious.


I have those pics!!!!

I have a pic of big bird molesting fisheads crotch!!!

The bidding starts at $500!

muahahaha!

fergus :P


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Madlove presents Delta

featuring

Mystic Bill
Jay C
Eric Rumors
Kid Entropy (on the decks sans mr. microphone)

$8 with canned food / 10pm-dawn / info: 608-849-1188 

located in scenic madison wisconsin.

NOTE:  The flyers originally printed the date as the fifth... which was a 
mistake obviously... it happens tonight feb. 4th... friday night.  The 
reprints were unfortunately not distributed as thoroughly as hoped so make 
sure this operates via word of mouth tenfold.   Chicagoans who need 
directions up to madtown... ring up our Semiconscious voiceline around 5 pm 
at 312-409-4552.  Allow proper drive time with the snow, and get the fuck out 
of chicago =).   Be safe in whatever you do, boo.

entro
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chad sponholz is dead????

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email me back, you chucklehead.

I've got some hot crossed buns for you.

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In a message dated 2/4/2000 9:49:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com writes:

<< Its all about Rancid
 that will be all
  >>
RAncid??????? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i GUESS ITS TIME FOR ME TO SHOW MY AGE: fUK rANCID, IT'S ALL ABOUT oP iVY

uNITY
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> RAncid??????? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
> i GUESS ITS TIME FOR ME TO SHOW MY AGE: fUK rANCID, IT'S ALL ABOUT oP iVY

unity as one step together...


operation ivy is timeless...

their ideas have affected
me everyday after

you are not old...
they are young

adam_louis

ps it's only one album... it's about time you bought it...

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I am looking at April 8, 2000 for a Party.. Does
anyone already have anything planed on this day?? I
dont want to step on anyone's feet.. Just want a good
party and lots of support..



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why do I feel all of these remarks are somehow
directed at me??>?

--- Omega Variant <senorlululalo@juno.com> wrote:
> HEY!!!  That's greasy wop to you mister!!  
> 
> By the way....your explanation for organized crime
> is ridiculous. 
> Obviously, it was clear that making tons o' loot the
> gangster way was 50
> times better than any shitty americana job. 
> Besides....tommy guns are
> cool!!!
> 
> Senor Guido
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:32:56 EST Steviet069@aol.com
> writes:
> 
> > (i believe the irish were stereotyped  as "micks" 
> > and the italians were dubbed as "guidos")...this
> was how 
> > organized crime was concieved in america...when it
> was 
> > obvious they were getting shafted for the jobs,
> they were 
> > forced to turn to other means to make ends
> meet...irony was, 
> > most of the irish became cops (but it was more for
> the 
> > protection of the assets of the rich pure white
> americans) 
> > and most of their busts were italians that had
> been forced 
> > into organized crime...and most of the organized
> crime was 
> > the killing of other italians ala mob hits...
> 
>
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> well this _is_ mw-raves-cute-tummies-masturbatory-fantasies-blondes, isn't 
> it?!?
> 
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> _____________________________________________________________________

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:57:39 -0800 (PST), TIMOTHY FOWLER wrote:

>I am looking at April 8, 2000 for a Party.. Does
>anyone already have anything planed on this day?? I
>dont want to step on anyone's feet.. Just want a good
>party and lots of support..
>

There is a Drop Bass / Eucalyptus even in Madison that
night.  Not to be missed if you are in the Milwaukee,
Madison, Chicago area !

There is also a party in Minneapolis and Lexington, KY.

I'd recommend choosing another date unless you are
in Kansas or something like that.

	Joe



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On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 11:58:30 EST, OLeSkL@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 2/4/2000 9:49:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
>j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com writes:
>
><< Its all about Rancid
> that will be all
>  >>
>RAncid??????? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>i GUESS ITS TIME FOR ME TO SHOW MY AGE: fUK rANCID, IT'S ALL ABOUT oP iVY
>

Op Ivy rocks, but a little too mellow for my tastes.
I prefer Citizen Fish.

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Um ... what city???

There is a rave scheduled for the Madison-Milwaukee area on that day (Drop
Bass is doing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds).

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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> I am looking at April 8, 2000 for a Party.. Does
> anyone already have anything planed on this day?? I
> dont want to step on anyone's feet.. Just want a good
> party and lots of support..
>
>
>
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--- Priced As Advertised <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
wrote:
> > 
> > 1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
> 
> Well, duh!
> 
> > 2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
> 
> any that include my dick and some sort of hole
> 
> > 3.  Where do you live?
> 
> St. Louis/hell
> 
> > 4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living
> outside the state of Michigan
> >     need to answer this one)?
> 
> I'd love to make a road trip to see ya big boy
> 
> > 5.  Are you bicurious?
> 
> no, just gay
> 
> > 6.  Do you have cute friends?
> 
> yes, a dog named cinnamon, and my two cats
> 
> > 7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental
> type?
> > 
> only if its experimenting with you, a tub of pudding
(tapioka please), a hair dryer, large industrial
machinery, pvc pipe, and the dj funk poster in Matt
Demons bathroom
>
signed 
> Matt is gay
and Jon "i got a home video I can send ya too" Gotti
> 
> 
BEANS WOO WOO WOO!!!!!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 18:28:58 2000
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> I have a pic of big bird molesting fisheads crotch!!!
> The bidding starts at $500!

like that could be any more embarrassing than photos of a glowstick up
my ass.

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>like that could be any more embarrassing than photos of a glowstick up
>my ass.
>


But in this one you can see your face and how much you're actually enjoying
it.

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me

--- pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote:
> chad sponholz is dead????
> 
> can anyone confirm this???
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 18:46:06 2000
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Whats up everyone, im not from the m-w area. actally im from the new england 
area and a member of B-R. But my friend is going down to detroit Feb. 21 to 
March 3rd or something like that. She wants to go We Are Twisted on the 
26th. I am just looking to get some info on this event for her like 
directions to where it is, etc... She's really cool and i'll give anyone her 
e-mail address, if they want talk to her or meet up with here in detriot or 
something. Well im out...

Peace, love... and all that good stuff =)
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 18:48:21 2000
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  these people scare me:

The Black Man is God.  Peace.
Divine Ruler Equality Allah
(although the Allah ASCII star thing is neat)

<<typical dumb chink.>>

(i believe the irish were stereotyped  as "micks" 
and the italians were dubbed as "guidos")...

  these people make me giggle:

queers=pop punk

  i'd book this guy because he's wacky:

May 26
May 27
May 28
May 29
May 30
May 31

  honesty award, good luck response award:

I need help.  Here is my situation:

  dumbest email award:

<shit, this is a circular reference, how do I pull
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 18:56:40 2000
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I'm bored, lets see some vinyl top 10s god damnit

My Current Drum'n'bass top ten:

)Stack 2 - Technical Itch - Tech Itch
2)Can't Punish Me - Dom & Roland - Moving Shadow
3)Whiplash (Lemon D Remix) - Future Cut - Renegade Hardware
4)Deja Vu - Lemon D - Valve
5)Something Out There (Twisted Anger rmx) - Ray Keith - UFO
6)Champion Sound (BC rmx) - Q Project & Spinback - CIA
7)Rectangle - DJ SS - Formation
8)Capone - Fusion - Hardleaders
9)Dylan - Landmine - Outbreak
...for old times sake...
10)Give me a dubplate - Rude & Deadly - Smoker's Inc

peace in the middle east,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 19:02:12 2000
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What are people's opinions on external effects processors these days?

Right now, I'm using Direct X plugins over sound clips and then just sending
them to my akai, but is it more intuitive/creative/easy to use an external
midi effects processor? Theres a lot of knob tweaking that I feel im missing
out on using only plug-ins, although perhaps theres a way to control the
"rate" for effects with plug-ins that I don't know about? (Im using
Soundforge mostly).

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 19:13:42 2000
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consider this the end of the RATM discussion.

one love,
greg

p.s.  Op Ivy, Rancid, and NoFX are pop-punk sell outs.  punk rock is
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In a message dated 2/4/00 1:05:32 PM Central Standard Time, 
mw-raves-digest-owner@hyperreal.org writes:

<< Its all about Rancid
 that will be all >>

i love rancid..  where do you think SIXTYBUS came from? 

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Your all tossers, punk rawk is owned by 

Black Flag (pre-Rollins)
The Decendents (before they signed to Epitaph)
The Circle Jerks
and of course,
Swingin' Utters are good for any occasion

Brandon

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 19:34:35 2000
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Anyone found a better price than this for the Pioneer
DJM-600 mixer...

Please let me know. I think it's just a bit steep at
the time, but I'd love to pick one up.

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i miss qib where did he go?

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In a message dated 2/1/00 5:41:50 PM Central Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< hey!  the "unrated" version of american pie is gonna be on PPV next 
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the only difference is when he's fucking the pie
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Fug That....You forgot The Misfits and The Dwarves 

"Brains for breakfast, brains for lunch, brains for dinner, brains for
brunch.
Brains for every fuckin' meal...WHY Can't We Have Some GUTS!!!"



On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 13:36:05 -0600 "Brandon Ivers" <sluggo@visi.com>
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> Your all tossers, punk rawk is owned by 
> 
> Black Flag (pre-Rollins)
> The Decendents (before they signed to Epitaph)
> The Circle Jerks
> and of course,
> Swingin' Utters are good for any occasion
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> Fug That....You forgot The Misfits and The Dwarves

yeah I think your right, I forgot Bad Brains too... Well I'm sure we could
all come up with some master list, but that might get a little too lengthy
and a little too "unrave" now dontcha think? =D

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On 02/04/2000 1:36 PM Brandon Ivers prophesized the following:

> Your all tossers, punk rawk is owned by
> 
> Black Flag (pre-Rollins)

yes yes yes Chavo ruled...my all time fave song is "Police State"

> The Decendents (before they signed to Epitaph)
> The Circle Jerks

lets also add

The Germs   Darby Crash was God
Dead Kennedy's
Youth Brigade
Social Distortion Mommy's Little Monster era Social D
The Subhumans
Exploited
Adolecents
D.I.
The Vandals
G.G. muthafuckin Allin

need i say more...you know the score....this is the REAL HARDKORE!!!!!!!



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>operation ivy is timeless...
>
>ps it's only one album... it's about time you bought it...

It's all about havin the OP IVY on vinyl...expect to hear it next time you 
see me...possibly at Addicted to Love...


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>><< Its all about Rancid
>> that will be all
>>  >>
>>RAncid??????? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>i GUESS ITS TIME FOR ME TO SHOW MY AGE: fUK rANCID, IT'S ALL ABOUT oP iVY

Op Ivy my ass!

Rewind to '80 muthafucka, it's all about CRASS!
Crass was and is the time of day.

The one thing I do find appealing in that Op Ivy
compilation CD, however, is in "Big City" where
the guy sings "It's like a giant mechanical brain"
with a quivering voice.

Let's keep naming lots of phat punk/pop bands
though--I need some ideas for new band patches to
put on my sweatshirt I wear every day.  Right now
I'm working on a Rancid patch that I can pin on
right next to my current patches: "Frankie Bones,"
"Rave Against the Machine," "Child of PLUR," and
"Chad Sponholz has Homosexual Tendencies."


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AS ONE STAND TOGETHER!

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while i *didnt* say they were old school punk...unless you consider 93 old 
school :p.....i do *not* consider them pop punk. maybe its a conglomeration 
of their a little less happy sound (ok, sometimes they sound happy...whatev 
:P)and their strong political views that kind of make them less the candy 
rave of punk than, say, the queers...yeah, Propagandhi is no agnostic 
front...but i have a hard time putting them in the same category as the 
other pop punk bands.
okay. i promise, no more.
-val

p.s. i fuckin love propagandhi

>they are totally new school punk ... they have that popy sound for sure 
>....
>in other words they do sound like NOFX and NOFX is pretty popy if u ask me
>... but who gives a shit .. I LOVE PROPHAGANDI...
>
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Jason H Two wrote:

> i miss qib where did he go?

I'm not sure.. maybe he's out immanentizing the eschaton
or something.  :-)

Actually I think he posted a little while ago that he was
unsubbing due to 'lack of interesting conversation' or
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Quoting Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com>:


EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  swingin utters, fucking lick my 
choad, bow to the EXPLOITED or die!!!!!!!

jester


> Your all tossers, punk rawk is owned by
>
> Black Flag (pre-Rollins)
> The Decendents (before they signed to Epitaph)
> The Circle Jerks
> and of course,
> Swingin' Utters are good for any occasion
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> Brandon
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On 02/04/2000 3:10 PM jester prophesized the following:

> Quoting Brandon Ivers <sluggo@visi.com>:
> 
> 
> EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  swingin utters, fucking lick
> my 
> choad, bow to the EXPLOITED or die!!!!!!!


HORROR EPICS RULEZ



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Everybody is an enemy.  fuck it I hate everybody.
I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
my mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
and my audience is the target!!!

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani
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> The Germs   Darby Crash was God
> Dead Kennedy's
> Youth Brigade
> Social Distortion Mommy's Little Monster era Social D
> The Subhumans
> Exploited
> Adolecents
> D.I.
> The Vandals
> G.G. muthafuckin Allin

ok ok, now I gotta keep going with this =]. Social D, Mommy's little
Monster, now THERE is a wicked album I forgot about! gonna have to take
another listen when I get home :).

anyway, i still highly rate:
MDC
Crass
Subhumans (so good you got to add them twice)
Bad Brains
The Plugz
4-skins
Sham 69
Foo Fighters (kidding... Pat Smear was the only reason I put up with them...
long live the germs)
Man Sized Action
Husker Du (first album)
Replacements (first album)
Cock Sparrer
Richard Hell (small doses??)
U.K. Subs
Minuetemen (before they became all jazz-punk fusion crap)
Disorder
...shit, any good Oi from the early 80s for that matter
and even the Exploited, although I think Wattie is a big fuckin' tard ;)

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Propagandhi is my personnal lord and savior, that is not old/new school, that is 
pop-punk, there are simply:

"Jester's personnal lords and saviors" punk rock

nuff sed

jester



Quoting valerie valenzo* <valerieev@hotmail.com>:

> 
> while i *didnt* say they were old school punk...unless you consider 93
> old
> school :p.....i do *not* consider them pop punk. maybe its a
> conglomeration
> of their a little less happy sound (ok, sometimes they sound
> happy...whatev
> :P)and their strong political views that kind of make them less the
> candy
> rave of punk than, say, the queers...yeah, Propagandhi is no agnostic
> front...but i have a hard time putting them in the same category as the
> other pop punk bands.
> okay. i promise, no more.
> -val
>
> p.s. i fuckin love propagandhi
>
> >they are totally new school punk ... they have that popy sound for sure
>
> >....
> >in other words they do sound like NOFX and NOFX is pretty popy if u ask
> me
> >... but who gives a shit .. I LOVE PROPHAGANDI...
> >
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i know several people who should be placed on this page/"wall" if someone 
actually does it.  if anyone wants to take the definite initiave we can all 
start figuring out who should be enshrined on there...

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what would be needed?  domain name, place to host, web developer, back end 
database?  I would imagine there would be a lot of names going back many 
years and across the world.  Each name could be linked up to a page/picture 
about the person...that could take up a lot of room.  Most free sites give 
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could we get the word out?

any ideas would be mucho appreciated!

PJ


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>start figuring out who should be enshrined on there...
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
>michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
>kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
>24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
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>Envelope-to: happyusa-outgoing@ffwd.com
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>From: "DJ Cloudskipper" <djcloudskipper@hotmail.com>
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>Subject: happyusa: KickinBeats Update is NOW up!
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>Hey!
>
>FINALLY!~!!! The new KickinBeats site (www.kickinbeats.com) is now up. 
>Featuring:
>
>A brand new layout
>New mixes up (with more to be added soon)
>New profiles for each member
>New top 10's for January/February
>New interview up with DJ Frisky from Toronto
>Brand new links section
>
>With soon coming: A Surestream, broadcasting 24/7, KickinBeats mixes in 
>continuous loop!
>
>Enjoy, and throw some feedback at us! Tell us what yo think! :)
>
>Chris
>
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***PLEASE NOTE THE CHANGE IN DATE***
***Due to the fact that april 15 is not only the date of element squad's 
"transformation free" event, but is ALSO the date of the next hullabaloo! 
event, we have changed the date of the next american cheese production to 
MAY 20, 2000.  we do not wish to disrespect hullabaloo! (our inspiration, 
promotion-wise) by doing an event the same nite as one of theirs, this way 
the hardcore family does not have to be split up!  below is the original 
e-teaser info, stay tuned for updates!!***

-----

(this is only a teaser)

"come along and join the scene, live your life like a rave machine!"

  ...the highly anticipated follow-up to HARD DAZE...

saturday, may 20, 2000
columbus, ohio
*CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT*

american cheese productions returns with another special event, keeping it 
100% happy hardcore, hardcore and jump-up jungle all nite long. another 
super-ravey nite with more free whistles, candy, toys, water, and hi-c than 
last time...plus lots of new surprises for you!

$15 admission (no joke!) will get you 9 hours of non-stop fun: world-class 
dj's and mc's from near and far, more of everything that we had at HARD 
DAZE, and a *BIGGER VENUE* so that none of you will be turned away at the 
door! stay tuned for info...pre-flyers will be out soon.

(614) 447-6568



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saturday february 5th muzique boutique presents:
SUCK MY FUNK
DJ JAZZY JOYCE of DIGABLE PLANETS/NYC
BIZZ/TEXAS ASSASSINS/HOUSTON
SLATER HOGAN/GENIUS INSANITY/INDY
STAN DOUBLIN/KINDRED GROOVE/ST.LOUIS
BOB A DOB/CLUBHEAD/CINCI
MUDKIDS/CRUSH/INDY
INDIANA JONES/CRUSH/INDY
NOAH/CRUSH/INDY
this event is $20 AT THE DOOR  DOORS OPEN AT 10:00PM-6:00AM
the venue is THE HOT SPOT in BLOOMINGTON INDIANA about30-40 minutes south of 
indy.
a second room of sound has been added with the following dj's:
DNA/SCARAB RECORDS
J CROSS/SUBTERROR
MAX/MAXART
five djs from the log squared camp
log 2 will also be providing sound and lights for both rooms.
the venue is fully permitted and heated.
see ya all there
call 317.592.9536 for directions
or muziquebou@aol.com

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i always wanted to throw a blowout concert-style HUGE event called "rave 
new world".  heh.

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>
>if for anyone reason, someone would like to meet me there at the party lemme
>know, im totally about meeting some mw kids!!

i'll be "in the house" so keep an eye peeled innit.


>and I'm looking for some HARD djs, get in touch (i mean HAARRRRDDDD!)

gimme some viagra!


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hey folks...

if yer bored tonite from 11PM - 2AM CST and you wanna hear a public
radio station lose it's FCC liscence, then check out 89.7 KIWR the River
for the Warehouse.  Tonight, both myself and Lee of the International
House of Boogie will be spinning over the airwaves.

don't live in Omaha?  Don't fret!

KIWR broadcasts over the web... check out...

http://www.kiwr897.com

or

http://www.webradio.com  call letters kiwr

CALL THE STUDIO!!!  WOOHOO!!  712.323.4100   Say a bunch of swear words
over the air!\

peace...

-pm-

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actually, i can't get on.  

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tsar is doing kari's bday party "underground frequency" in lexington that 
nite.  and the phrase is "step on anyone's toes".  heh ;)

At 08:57 AM 2/4/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I am looking at April 8, 2000 for a Party.. Does
>anyone already have anything planed on this day?? I
>dont want to step on anyone's feet.. Just want a good
>party and lots of support..
>
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when the hell is this coming out.
i saw some local resident nobody last week and 
he had a promo of it...  i have to pick that 
shit up.  

speaking of dubs... i heard the fucking edrush&op
remix of Boymerang's 'still' last week too!!!
Has anyone else heard this tune!!!!!  
Is anyone else crying themselves to sleep because 
it's not coming out!!!!??!!??!!!!

chad

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> 3)Whiplash (Lemon D Remix) - Future Cut - Renegade Hardware
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what about the Fugs?!

that's the shit.

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> Fug That....You forgot The Misfits and The Dwarves 

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you guys are all crusty gutter-punks...
let's talk about some stylish hardcore

san diego anyone?


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> lets also add
> 
> The Germs   Darby Crash was God
> Dead Kennedy's
> Youth Brigade
> Social Distortion Mommy's Little Monster era Social D
> The Subhumans
> Exploited
> Adolecents
> D.I.
> The Vandals
> G.G. muthafuckin Allin
> 
> need i say more...you know the score....this is the REAL HARDKORE!!!!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Everybody is an enemy.  fuck it I hate everybody.
> I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
> my mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
> and my audience is the target!!!
> 
> I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
> and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
> your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
> I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.
> 
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>I'm bored, lets see some vinyl top 10s god damnit

10.  anonymous - "sun always shines" - smiley choons
9.  anonymous - "VGT #3" - VGT
8.  elevate - "the love" - the world of obsession
7.  new wave - "whores" - HP
6.  anonymous - "silk cuts 11" - silk cuts (ltd)
5.  bang! - "shooting star" (brisk & ham rmx) - next generation / blatant 
beats (ltd)
4.  interstate - "second element" - evolution
3.  double dutch - "cubic 99" - blatant beats
2.  dj demo & digital illusion - "the way" - vital element
1.  sy & demo - "stay with me" - vital element (promo)

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im going to redzone...anyone in columbus know if anythings going on there 
tonite?
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fucking shit... how can you name all this uk stuff and
not add LEATHERFACE?

On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 03:18:19PM -0600, Brandon Ivers wrote:
> 
> ok ok, now I gotta keep going with this =]. Social D, Mommy's little
> Monster, now THERE is a wicked album I forgot about! gonna have to take
> another listen when I get home :).
> 
> anyway, i still highly rate:
> MDC
> Crass
> Subhumans (so good you got to add them twice)
> Bad Brains
> The Plugz
> 4-skins
> Sham 69
> Foo Fighters (kidding... Pat Smear was the only reason I put up with them...
> long live the germs)
> Man Sized Action
> Husker Du (first album)
> Replacements (first album)
> Cock Sparrer
> Richard Hell (small doses??)
> U.K. Subs
> Minuetemen (before they became all jazz-punk fusion crap)
> Disorder
> ...shit, any good Oi from the early 80s for that matter
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> 
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the best ever "ate my balls" page is "the hindenburg ate my balls".  it has 
a wav of the guy going "OH THE HUMANITY!!" bwahahhahaha

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Chicago is taken on April 8th....

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>
>...for old times sake...
>10)Give me a dubplate - Rude & Deadly - Smoker's Inc

GIMME A DUBPLATE MASH DEM DOWN
GIMME A DUBPLATE MASH DEM DOWN
GIMME A DUBPLATE MASH DEM DOWN
GIMME A DUB PLATE MA MA MA MA MASH DEM MASH DEM DOWN!!!@#$#!@$!#!

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Hi  :)
Usually, I'm not a huge house fan, but lately at clubs and various coffee 
shops I've been hearing this record that drives me crazy, but in a good way!  
 It's really bouncy and there are a lot of vocals.   A lot of which I can't 
remember (but I can sing along with it when I hear it!  =P)  *Some* of the 
lines are:  "Bring it back..  Sing it...________" or "Come to my sweet 
melodies"  I'm gonna go record shopping this weekend and would like to find 
it.
Thanks!

Jen Sixtybus
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Get on da bus!

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At 01:43 PM 2/4/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Fug That....You forgot The Misfits and The Dwarves
>
>"Brains for breakfast, brains for lunch, brains for dinner, brains for
>brunch.
>Brains for every fuckin' meal...WHY Can't We Have Some GUTS!!!"


i have the video for "braineaters" on tape, it's fucking hilarious.

ps the dwarves suck


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gutter punk is what it's all about...lotz of alcohol, robbing another for
your first pair of docs, dirty ass rundown clubs with no rulz, wearing a
white shirt into a pit and coming out with it red makes my cock scream,
split lips and noses at the end of the night better than a straight up
fight, sittin on Hollywood Boulevard making more panhandling in one day that
a lot of Burger King jocks make in a week

WHAT THE FUCK IS STYLISH HARDCORE...is that like Green Day or Rancid...FUCK
THAT THERES NOTHING STYLISH ABOUT HARdCORE....or maybe that pussy ass HAPPY
HARDCORE genre that spouted with the techno scene is what your speaking of

On 02/04/2000 4:24 PM chad cumby prophesized the following:

> you guys are all crusty gutter-punks...
> let's talk about some stylish hardcore
> 
> san diego anyone?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 01:52:26PM -0600, Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani wrote:
>> 
>> lets also add
>> 
>> The Germs   Darby Crash was God
>> Dead Kennedy's
>> Youth Brigade
>> Social Distortion Mommy's Little Monster era Social D
>> The Subhumans
>> Exploited
>> Adolecents
>> D.I.
>> The Vandals
>> G.G. muthafuckin Allin
>> 
>> need i say more...you know the score....this is the REAL HARDKORE!!!!!!!


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I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani
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>im going to redzone...anyone in columbus know if anythings going on there
>tonite?

cornfield house music sensation kevin yost, rockin ya socks.



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I'm looking at going to Frostbite in minneapolis 2-18-00, does anyone have 
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In a message dated 2/4/00 11:09:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< cornfield house music sensation kevin yost, rockin ya socks. >>

and i bet im the only one going! teehee
-nicci


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From: adam <meadowsa@ecn.purdue.edu>
To: Midwest Raves <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Subject: [mw] <update>  What the hell else you gonna do on a Friday? <Feb.. 4th>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:00:14 -0500
From: Derek Lacy <lacyd@purdue.edu>
To: PBS <puraves@ecn.purdue.edu>,
     "HouseBabylon@aol. com" <HouseBabylon@aol.com>,
     "Indpls-Alliance@Egroups. Com" <indpls-alliance@egroups.com>,
     "Indybassnet@Egroups. Com" <indybassnet@egroups.com>,
     iu-ravers@egroups.com
Subject: [pur] <update>  What the hell else you gonna do on a Friday? <Feb..
    4th>

Here's a little update.  There is going to be a second room at the party and
it will include a special guest from Detroit.  Also some ambient sounds at
the end of the night.

256 inc. party

What the hell else you gonna do on a Friday?
Friday, Feb 4th 2000
12 (midnight)-9 or later!
$15

Larry Tee
Love Machine..TeknoMafia
NYC House
<Grammy Nominee>

3D
Canvas Recordings
Chicago Jungle
<boomshakalaka>

NSA
256..Skrubby
Lafayette House
<Echelon Disco>

Max
Sin..Maxart
Indy Techno
<Who is Elvis?>

Diode
TeknoMafia
Indy Techno
<Live P.A.>

Matt Porter
Stellar Awareness..Univibe.net
Indy House
<Booyah>

EPROM
Chicago Techno

Melville Jenkins
Ft. Wayne Jungle

Dreadnaught
Chicago Tech-House
Live P.A.

Directions:  317.767.4759




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 23:16:59 2000
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p.s. It was just a joke 
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 17:10:30 CST, Dave Kuczenski wrote:

>I'm looking at going to Frostbite in minneapolis 2-18-00, does anyone have 
>any info or directions they could pass along to moi.  Merci beaucoup.

Too much info to type out.

Basically,

Christopher Lawrence
Tech Itch & Decoder
Alexi Delano
E-Sassin
Glyde
Plus several good Minneapolis DJs.

$15 presale - $20 at the door.

www.alliedsubstructure.com
612-909-6827

I highly recommend it.  This promoter
throws great events.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 23:25:45 2000
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Oh that one,I know what you are talking about..thats a classic

"ooooo" etc

hey,i have a tune id for all you hardcore junglists,

anyone know that tune(i think its on a 12' record put out last year)

it goes

boom clap boom clap,2 step beat for a while..and then has a growly bassline 
that goes..woob woob woob..you know that one?its on some helter skelter tape 
pack I have.


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>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:47:17 EST
>
>Hi  :)
>Usually, I'm not a huge house fan, but lately at clubs and various coffee
>shops I've been hearing this record that drives me crazy, but in a good 
>way!
>  It's really bouncy and there are a lot of vocals.   A lot of which I 
>can't
>remember (but I can sing along with it when I hear it!  =P)  *Some* of the
>lines are:  "Bring it back..  Sing it...________" or "Come to my sweet
>melodies"  I'm gonna go record shopping this weekend and would like to find
>it.
>Thanks!
>
>Jen Sixtybus
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 23:40:19 2000
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does anyone have pictures scanned from no place like home?

if so get back to me


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 23:49:17 2000
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Subject: Re: [mw] Vinyl Top 10's
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Hey Michael, ya ever wonder why most of those HH
producers are listed at anonymous.
heheheheh
still love ya dood.

--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
wrote:
> 
> >I'm bored, lets see some vinyl top 10s god damnit
> 
> 10.  anonymous - "sun always shines" - smiley choons
> 9.  anonymous - "VGT #3" - VGT
> 8.  elevate - "the love" - the world of obsession
> 7.  new wave - "whores" - HP
> 6.  anonymous - "silk cuts 11" - silk cuts (ltd)
> 5.  bang! - "shooting star" (brisk & ham rmx) - next
> generation / blatant 
> beats (ltd)
> 4.  interstate - "second element" - evolution
> 3.  double dutch - "cubic 99" - blatant beats
> 2.  dj demo & digital illusion - "the way" - vital
> element
> 1.  sy & demo - "stay with me" - vital element
> (promo)
> 
>
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> columbus, ohio, usa
> 24-hour information: 614.447.6568 -
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> michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
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Lemon D remix of Wiplash comes out later this month (supposedly).. there
was a limited run promo of it going around for a while and i just missed
it... talked to the guys at compound about 10 minutes after they sold
their last one :(

chad cumby wrote:

> when the hell is this coming out.
> i saw some local resident nobody last week and
> he had a promo of it...  i have to pick that
> shit up.
>
> speaking of dubs... i heard the fucking edrush&op
> remix of Boymerang's 'still' last week too!!!
> Has anyone else heard this tune!!!!!
> Is anyone else crying themselves to sleep because
> it's not coming out!!!!??!!??!!!!
>
> chad
>
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 12:57:56PM -0600, Brandon Ivers wrote:
> >
> > 3)Whiplash (Lemon D Remix) - Future Cut - Renegade Hardware
> >
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                  SOMA 
 featuring:
          DJ Casper .....+
                  - the chicago legend dropping an 
                    extended set of 2-step garage.
 with u-c's finest:
   Anagram Daydream ...+..
                  - sunshine ministry. electro.
             Syntax ....+.
                  - rural amerika. drum'n'bass.
          DJ Impact ..+...
                  - organic grooves. house.
            Mission .+....
                  - gro family. tekno.
     Pepper Jackson +.....
                  - up-and-coming urban(a) junglist.
 
 this saturday: 02.05.2000
 
 only 5 dollars! 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 04 23:53:39 2000
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all I have to say is Boymerang
its sorta like sayin STELLLLAAAAAA!!!!

--- chad cumby <cumby@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> when the hell is this coming out.
> i saw some local resident nobody last week and 
> he had a promo of it...  i have to pick that 
> shit up.  
> 
> speaking of dubs... i heard the fucking edrush&op
> remix of Boymerang's 'still' last week too!!!
> Has anyone else heard this tune!!!!!  
> Is anyone else crying themselves to sleep because 
> it's not coming out!!!!??!!??!!!!
> 
> chad
> 
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 12:57:56PM -0600, Brandon
> Ivers wrote:
> > 
> > 3)Whiplash (Lemon D Remix) - Future Cut - Renegade
> Hardware
> > 
> > -
> 
> -- 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 05 00:02:58 2000
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Subject: [mw] INFO?-Frostbite 2-18-00
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Here's the lowdown on Frostbite...

The Headliners Are:
CHRISTOPHER LAWRENCE
TECHNICAL ITCH & DECODER
ALEXI DELANO
E-SASSIN
GLYDE

The local crew is:
SPREE
MADKID
FLEAK
MR SCIENCE
HOOVERPROJECT (DJ Scam, Arjay Khetamine, and MC ADB)
E-TONES
KEN EARLY
CISKO
CATALYST

More Info?
www.alliedsubstructure.com
or call
612.909.6827

Some people have asked me what the fuck "Hooverproject" is, so heres a
little FYI. Me and Arjay are doing a 3 turntable set with live PA. I'm
working the sampler and scratching, Arjay is mixing , and ADB is obviously
MCing =D. This is something we've been working on for friggin months, so if
you go, you have to check it.

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> Lemon D remix of Wiplash comes out later this month (supposedly).. there
> was a limited run promo of it going around

Yeah, it's the Future Cut EP. The Lemon D remix of Whiplash is GOOD. You
will think it sucks the first time you hear it though, but listen to it a
few more times. Lemon D being the master of the Amen that he is did some
cool subtle things to the breaks. I think I still like the original a bit
better, but you know how if a track is older than 3 weeks, its no good ;)

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i've already heard it several times... i found a couple of mixes from loxy and
kamal and they dropped it... the remix RAWKS!!!  i still wanna get my hands on
the vip remix of beckoning tho :)

>
> Yeah, it's the Future Cut EP. The Lemon D remix of Whiplash is GOOD. You
> will think it sucks the first time you hear it though, but listen to it a
> few more times. Lemon D being the master of the Amen that he is did some
> cool subtle things to the breaks. I think I still like the original a bit
> better, but you know how if a track is older than 3 weeks, its no good ;)
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Actually, I need all of this information as well so if
any of you girls want this info to go to somethin more
than a just a paper, then fill out this here survey
and gets it back to me!                     - Ruby
baby

--- Dynamic Groove <events@dynamicgroove.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 14:33:41 -0500 (EST), Kevin
> Michael Robbins wrote:
> 
> >
> >I'm doing a survey for a paper and I would
> appreciate it if a few of you
> >would answer my questions.  This is only for girls
> though.
> >
> >1.  Are you sexually promiscuous?
> >2.  What are your favorite sexual positions?
> >3.  Where do you live?
> >4.  Do you like road trips(only girls living
> outside the state of Michigan
> >    need to answer this one)?
> >5.  Are you bicurious?
> >6.  Do you have cute friends?
> >7.  Would you consider yourself the experimental
> type?
> 
> 
> You forgot:
> 
> 8. Are you opposed to nude photography and/or video
> recording ?
> 
> and
> 
> 9. Are you 18 years of age, or if under 18 will your
> parents sign this waiver ?
> 
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St. Louis gots it goin on Saturday Feb 12th with the 
Supastars of Love's 6 year Valentine Anniversary party
"Addicted to Love" with Space Girl, Tommie Sunshine,
Dan Deliverance, Stan Doublin, AC, All Time Hi, and
mo'
TJ Richter as Cupid, and lots of people loose in the
pants and ready to dance.  This party will kick ass.
http://www.superstarsoflove.com     #314-994-1114






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In a message dated 2/4/100 5:51:22 PM EST, Sixtybus@aol.com writes:

<< *Some* of the 
 lines are:  "Bring it back..  Sing it...________" or "Come to my sweet 
 melodies"  I'm gonna go record shopping this weekend and would like to find 
 it. >>



Moloko, Sing it back remixes.  saw it a gramaphone.  its got like two or 
three records in it.   sumthin like that

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TIMOTHY FOWLER wrote:
> 
> I am looking at April 8, 2000 for a Party.. Does
> anyone already have anything planed on this day?? I
> dont want to step on anyone's feet.. Just want a good
> party and lots of support..
> 
> =====
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There's a Drop Bass party with a line-up WAY worthy of travelling to,
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>From: "Devon" <devon@igi.com>
>To: "604" <goa@party.net>
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>FW: Have a Heart
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>  Memo:   Please Help Little Billy Whatshisface 
>
>
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>  Won't you please help... 
>
>
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>
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>  I am a very sick little boy.  My mother is typing this for me, because 
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>  Mommy is always sad, but she says it's not my fault.  I asked her if it 
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sick.
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>  I was born without a body.  It doesn't hurt, except when I go to sleep. 
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>  Mommy doesn't work because she said employers don't hire crying people. 
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>  her real bad.  I hope you will help me. 
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>   You can help me if you forward this e-mail.  Dr. Johansen said if you 
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>  with 
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>  Then the astronauts will collect prayers from school children all over 
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>  Thank You, 
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Already been done SEVERAL times, on the west coast at least.

Peace and love,

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2000 17:05:41 -0600 michael knight
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In a message dated 2/4/0 7:55:04 AM, michael mccrusty wrote:

<<the sad thing is, you probably really belive this.  DAMN THE FAT 
RICH WHITE MAN, eh stevie?  life's a bitch.>>

lol, who needs fat rich white men, when you've got supa fly
porn star cutties supportin ya...

everybody check out my roomy zenopiez (stormy) on
www.stargazerlilly.com and help us make rent!!...my other
roomie ihaveissuez (nicci) might be on there later....

...playa hatas, can't get no play cuz they were too busy hatin,
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what the fuck.  breaking is a hip hop thing.  watering down part of hip hop 
culture and co-opting it for the rave scene is just as disrespectful to hip 
hop culture as it is to rave culture...so you can take that argument about 
"the original elements of hip hop" and cram it firmly into your 17-year 
old, suburban, clueless rectum.

i don't play music conducive to breaking, but if i did and a break circle 
ever formed during one of my sets, i'd quit playing til it was broken 
up.  the rave scene was never meant as a place for insecure assholes to 
placate each other's egos, especially when their dancing isn't even worth a 
shit.

next time you see a break circle at a RAVE (unless a hip hop dj/act is on), 
i encourage you to go into the middle of the circle and start raving out 
like never before.  be as silly as possible, spread baby powder around, 
shower the breakers in glitter and stickers, wave your glowsticks proudly 
and look as foolish as you possibly can.

and here's a big "fuck you" to all the half-raver kids who think they are 
hardasses down for the real hip hop.  guess what, you aren't.  going to 
avalon and spending 60 bucks on a rawkus hoodie doesn't make you "down for 
the real hip hop".  you're trying to be something that you're just not, and 
you look like an idiot.  FUCK YOU.

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In a message dated 2/5/0 1:54:28 AM, me wrote:

<<everybody check out my roomy zenopiez (stormy) on
www.stargazerlilly.com and help us make rent!!...my other
roomie ihaveissuez (nicci) might be on there later....>>

oops, make dat...

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Honestly.. I dislike break circles too...
HOwever if there is room for one... and tehy aren't taking up prime real
estate on the dance floor.  Who gives a fuck if they break dance to HH,
trance, gabber or house or jungle or whatever the fuck.....  I think they
look stupid doing... b/c they're most likely not actually dancing ot the
music. but hey.. to each his own right?

I always thought break dancing was more in line with say electro or breaks
(not really fast breaks or really slow breaks)  however... if someone
enjoys it and theyre not impinging on anyone elses dancing... or fun (just
b/c you dont find aesthetically pleasing doesnt count).



tad

At 09:05 PM 2/4/00 -0600, michael knight wrote:
>what the fuck.  breaking is a hip hop thing.  watering down part of hip hop 
>culture and co-opting it for the rave scene is just as disrespectful to hip 
>hop culture as it is to rave culture...so you can take that argument about 
>"the original elements of hip hop" and cram it firmly into your 17-year 
>old, suburban, clueless rectum.
>
>i don't play music conducive to breaking, but if i did and a break circle 
>ever formed during one of my sets, i'd quit playing til it was broken 
>up.  the rave scene was never meant as a place for insecure assholes to 
>placate each other's egos, especially when their dancing isn't even worth a 
>shit.
>
>next time you see a break circle at a RAVE (unless a hip hop dj/act is on), 
>i encourage you to go into the middle of the circle and start raving out 
>like never before.  be as silly as possible, spread baby powder around, 
>shower the breakers in glitter and stickers, wave your glowsticks proudly 
>and look as foolish as you possibly can.
>
>and here's a big "fuck you" to all the half-raver kids who think they are 
>hardasses down for the real hip hop.  guess what, you aren't.  going to 
>avalon and spending 60 bucks on a rawkus hoodie doesn't make you "down for 
>the real hip hop".  you're trying to be something that you're just not, and 
>you look like an idiot.  FUCK YOU.
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
>michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
>kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
>24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
>michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
>
>
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2 words:

banana pepper.

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I'd love to see Sally Struthers turn that into a commercial.

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>Rewind to '80 muthafucka, it's all about CRASS!
>Crass was and is the time of day.

Crass did rock. That chick singer was fantastic. I can't resist putting my 
vote in for punk bands though, and I know many of you will disagree with 
this completely, but I am sticking to my guns: Bad Religion tops my list far 
beyond all others. I am a huge Social D fan too, but that could have 
something to do with a more personal level....Mike Ness is hot. Any man who 
can wear black eyeliner better than me and still look that viciously 
delicious gets a plus vote in my book. I find it really amusing how many 
current ravers were past punkers.

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I enjoy break circles........just because it has roots in hip hop or 
something like that, doesn't mean that they can't dance to something else.  
It's just dancing.  And isn't that the best thing to do at a rave?  I think 
it is.  So hell, if you're breakdancing, "raving out", or waltzing around the 
dance floor, go for it!  If you get in my way, I'll just dance somewhere 
else, it's cool.  Some people just need more space!   I mean, don't go out of 
control, slamming into people hardcore.......keep the hockey scene outta the 
rave scene.  : )

D.A.R.Y.L.

Oh yeah, I'm new to the MW Raves list.  I've been on the stlraves list 
awhile, and thought I'd jump over and check this one out.  My name's Daryl, 
what's up to all the party people on the list.

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 Thank you so much, Mr. Hard-Ass Rave Promoter, for schooling us all as
to what "the real hip-hop" is and isn't. Assuming ignorance on the part
of your audience is generally a bad idea, but even more so on a mailing
list comprised of 100's of people you don't know, many of whom were
here long before your "American Cheese" company started catering to the
"17-year old (more like 15), suburban, clueless" types that seem to
populate the kind of event you take such pride in promoting. Talk about
alienating your demographic.. But that's mostly a matter of personal
opinion and taste... To continue..

 "watering down part of hip-hop culture and co-opting it for the rave
scene.." 
 
 Just like jazz was co-opted for funk and funk co-opted for hip-hop,
and hip-hop co-opted for electro, and so on, back, forth, &
sideways.... This is how we evolve, man. Don't knock it. However, I
agree with you up to a point, in that it sucks when people don't know
from whence they came. Now give back the tr-808 and those baggie pants,
ok? While you're at it, I think you've missed a few too many payments
on those breakbeats, but I wouldn't be so arrogant & presumptuous as to
designate myself the repo man. Hint, hint.

"..insecure assholes to placate each other's egos."
 
 Yeah, raves aren't about that! Now pardon me while I spend all of my
(parent's) money on mainstream designer clothes so I can go trash them
in one night in a filthy warehouse... I'd love to discuss this, but
I've got to placate that ego of mine with another bump of Crystal
Drain-O and kitty litter. 
 The best b-boy I know personally calls himself "Nobody"; does this
sound like an insecure, egotistical asshole? You don't seem to have a
very deep understanding of B-boy culture. This may not be your fault,
obviously it's not your thing.  Look, I've really got no beef with you
personally, but you can't expect to just climb on top of your little
pedestal and start spouting off shit unchecked into a public forum like
you're some ultimate authority on the topic. (Before I come off like a
hypocrite, let me admit right now to you, the reader, that the closest
I ever came to being a b-boy was when I skipped school in 6th grade in
a misguided attempt to perfect my 1990, or whatever that move was
called in 1984. I'm sure my dance moves are akin to the gyrations of an
epileptic freak, but I'm getting to that.. 1984?! Holy shit; just chop
me in half and count the rings.. ).   

"Next time you see a break circle at a RAVE (unless a hip hop dj/act is
on)" <you then go on to suggest disrupting it, for some fucked-up
reason. Fear? Jealousy? What gives?>

Yes, because heaven forbid two cultures with some pretty common roots
might blend back together a bit. That would be pretty terrible,
wouldn't it? We must be sure and act like good little stereotypes!
Jungle started to act as just such a strange attractor, good thing most
of the producers got lazy and are now stuck in that 2-step rut or we
might have had a bunch of undesirables coming around.. They don't look
like us! 
 
 Is a 20' circle really such an imposition? Why do you feel so
threatened by it, is it because it draws attention away from the DJ?
Granted, I've only seen a few "breakers" at raves that had skills..
But, the last time I checked, this wasn't a contest. Maybe I should
check more often? I take it as a given that I look like a dork when I'm
flailing around on the dancefloor.. Who gives a shit? It's about me &
the music, period. Self-expression, ya dig? Luckily for me, your
opinion of my abilities isn't neccessary for me to enjoy dancing. Must
be those insecurities you were talkin about.. I'll try not to step on
your toes. ;p
  Have you ever seen a serious B-boy battle? (Sorry I'm not into using
the gender-neutral "breakers", but the ones I know don't call
themselves that. I know there are B-girls, and I'm damn glad of it.)
The few I've seen first hand were just fun.. The last one I saw was
totally hilarious, at the height of it everyone watching mobbed the
dancefloor and started clownin each other.. No insecurities there,
believe me. Laughing at yourself is good medicine. It's not combat,
it's an art form. Call-and-response styles of dance are much older than
hip-hop music, and for you to dismiss it as an egotistical display is
pretty ignorant. Then again, you could probably say the same of me
bothering to respond to a post on mw-raves in a halfway serious
manner.. ;p
 But hey, I've already typed all this out so I might as well send it on
its way. I think I may have had a point back there somewhere but who
knows.. At any rate, Hyperactive is playing uptown and I think I could
get into that right about now. Electronic beats, indeed.




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  in COLUMBUS - ***I PROMISE***
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okay.  first allow me to say a few words.

to make a long story short:  i am new to the promoting game and do not wish 
to step on anyone's toes.  i refuse to do an event on a nite when someone 
else is doing an event in my own town - columbus is much too small & tight 
to have to deal with that.  also, i do not wish to go up against anyone who 
is promoting happy hardcore within a reasonable drive time of columbus.  as 
supporters of the last remaining bastion of true underground rave music, it 
is imperative that the hardcore family remain UNIFIED.

i do not wish the several changed dates to reflect poorly on me as a 
promoter.  i assure you my date changes are not due to wishy-washiness, i 
want only to plan my events on dates which will be beneficial to the 
scene's greater good.  this is absolutely the last date change i will 
make.  i am informing everyone of my intentions tonite.  if someone wants 
to go against me, that is now their cross to bear.  the following dates are 
set in STONE.

that said...

CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT is now being split into two smaller events, 
"CHILDREN", which will take place on FRIDAY, APRIL 7; and "THE NIGHT", 
which will take place on FRIDAY, MAY 5.  these will both be $10 events 
featuring the dj's and mc's who were originally going to play on april 
15;  in preparation for our first full-scale, off-the-hinges, $20 saturday 
nite BLOWOUT event which will take place on SATURDAY, JULY 8, 2000 - 
"SHOOTING STAR".

please accept my apologies for the past few days of confusion.  below you 
will find the information about the events, which is suitable for posting 
to the online calendars and such.  feel free to email me here with any 
questions anyone may have.  thankyou for your time.

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coming friday, april 7, 2000 to columbus, ohio
the next hardcore jam from american cheese productions
continuing to push music for the real underground family

*CHILDREN*

retreat to that youthful place in your heart, and join us for a night of 
bouncy, happy, ravey fun.  just like last time, we bring you a 
high-quality, low-cost ($10!) event with the finest in happy hardcore, 
hardcore, jump-up jungle, and oldskool.  your favourite dj's and mc's from 
both near and far will guide you through the true underground dance 
sounds.  plenty of free goodies for you - whistles, toys, candy, water, 
hi-C, everything to make you smile.   stay tuned for detailed information.

AMERICAN CHEESE PRODUCTIONS: (614) 447-6568

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coming friday, may 5, 2000 to columbus, ohio
american cheese follows up on "CHILDREN"
with another friday nite event for the hardcore family

*THE NIGHT*

you know the score by now, hardcore ravers.  real rave music, all night 
long.  dj's and mc's guaranteed to turn the party out.  $10 admission - no 
joke and no shorts.  the third low-cost event to bring columbus the real 
underground sounds of happy hardcore, hardcore, jump-up jungle, and 
oldskool.  free goodies as always!  stay tuned...

AMERICAN CHEESE PRODUCTIONS: (614) 447-6568

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-----------
july 8, 2000 in columbus, ohio
american cheese finally pulls out all the stops and brings you ohio's first 
FULL-SCALE event dedicated 100% to the real underground rave sounds.

*SHOOTING STAR*

our previous three events have led us here...our first major 
production.  this will be an international lineup of the finest dj's and 
mc's on the planet - and of course, it's gonna be all happy hardcore, 
hardcore, jump-up jungle, and oldskool!!  (you know how we do by now!!)

full-scale concert sound to get you moving.  lighting and visuals the likes 
of which you have never experienced.  more free goodies for the ravers than 
you can imagine.  THIS will be the defining moment of 2000 for the the 
midwest hardcore family, believe.

more information soon.

AMERICAN CHEESE PRODUCTIONS: (614) 447-6568

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te -

the climate where you live (cincinnati?  geez it's not that far away) is 
obviously different than it is here.  anyone who has been to events in 
columbus in the past couple of years should be able to tell you - the 
circles here take up the bulk of main rooms sometimes, they are totally out 
of hand and the breakers are all about themselves.  i can literally feel 
the egocentrism leaking out of that horrible circle.  i'm sorry but that is 
just not what raves were supposed to be about (THIS IS ME COMING ACROSS AS 
A KNOW-IT-ALL AND RUBBING TE THE WRONG WAY - i don't mean to, but i have a 
tendency to sound a bit more condescending than i intend)

break circles and stupid drugs (G, K, H etc) are my biggest bones of 
contention when it comes to the rave scene.  so i speak rather passionately 
on either topic.  i do not think of joe or jane average raver as an 
idiot.  i just have a problem with kids telling me they are "down for the 
real hip hop" when they don't really understand where it came from.  *i* 
don't make such claims and i've been listening to hip hop since my first 
UTFO and kurtis blow tapes in 3rd grade.  i think that if the break circle 
fad in columbus was more like, say, milwaukee (where i saw smallish circles 
near the rear of the room, bothering no-one)... i might not be so fired up 
about this.

still hating break circles at raves...

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:St. Louis gots it goin on Saturday Feb 12th with the 
:Supastars of Love's 6 year Valentine Anniversary party
<snip>
:pants and ready to dance.  This party will kick ass.


not as much as the party in louisville. NEENER!

:U suck, we rock.

we've got spirit, yes we do, we've got spirit how 'bout you???

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Digital Perceptions and Karma Productions are also
planning a BIG event here in Iowa on the 8th (or so
they say, they've been pushing the date back for months)
so Kansas might be out of the question, too... :-)

Dave


> There is a Drop Bass / Eucalyptus even in Madison that
> night.  Not to be missed if you are in the Milwaukee,
> Madison, Chicago area !
> 
> There is also a party in Minneapolis and Lexington, KY.
> 
> I'd recommend choosing another date unless you are
> in Kansas or something like that.
> 
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yeah, what iggy-natius said.

although i also agree that break circles can get annoying, it boils down to 
an issue of respecting space.  if there's not space for a break circle, one 
should not break out.  if there is, i definitely encourage it, because i too 
see breaking as an art form.

yes, there are a lot of "fake" hip hop acting-hard types.  but, there's a 
lot of fake everybodies.  plastic people, the lot of them!  there are some 
that know, and most that don't.

i don't see a problem with crossing over of scenes.  if we're talking about 
roots here... both musical styles come from a lot of the same roots, 
depending on to what extent you trace them.  this is a stupid thread.  it's 
something that happened like 9 months ago... "SHOULD HIP HOP BE ALLOWED AT 
RAVES?"  read the archives if you want to see your future.

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I saw John Dica breaking when we went up to Wisconsin..so don't let him fool 
you with this "Break talk"

I think the thread of "should rap be aloud at raves"..is pointless,i 
mean...i think different raves call for different stuff...I definately think 
its called for in some cases.

I think the question here is should trance be allowed at raves(jk obviosly)




>From: "jon dica!" <dica666@hotmail.com>
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>
>yeah, what iggy-natius said.
>
>although i also agree that break circles can get annoying, it boils down to
>an issue of respecting space.  if there's not space for a break circle, one
>should not break out.  if there is, i definitely encourage it, because i 
>too
>see breaking as an art form.
>
>yes, there are a lot of "fake" hip hop acting-hard types.  but, there's a
>lot of fake everybodies.  plastic people, the lot of them!  there are some
>that know, and most that don't.
>
>i don't see a problem with crossing over of scenes.  if we're talking about
>roots here... both musical styles come from a lot of the same roots,
>depending on to what extent you trace them.  this is a stupid thread.  it's
>something that happened like 9 months ago... "SHOULD HIP HOP BE ALLOWED AT
>RAVES?"  read the archives if you want to see your future.
>
>...........................................................
>.......  jon/dica - massive honky - angel of death  .......
>...........................................................
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The circles are small in Madison too - and there is plenty of space left so
they are not infringing on everyone here - and they usually only last a
short time. Fun to watch if you want - ignore if not interested. I'm happy
it works well in Madison.

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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> i think that if the break circle
> fad in columbus was more like, say, milwaukee (where i saw smallish
circles
> near the rear of the room, bothering no-one)... i might not be so fired up
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In a message dated 2/5/00 2:15:31 AM Central Standard Time, 
LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com writes:

<< The circles are small in Madison too - and there is plenty of space left so
 they are not infringing on everyone here - and they usually only last a
 short time. Fun to watch if you want - ignore if not interested. I'm happy
 it works well in Madison >>

Yeah, same with Minneapolis.  I don't recall seeing many break circles at 
parties, actually.  In clubs they're horrible though.  There's this one big 
group of Asian guys who dominate the break circles at First Avenue and 
they're all kind of jerky about it.  A lot of times, they don't even actually 
break.  They just do gymnastics and various flips off eachothers shoulders.  
That, or they just get that start up where it looks as though they're running 
in place but then chicken out once they get in the middle and realize 
everyone is watching them.   

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hey, this was posted to another mailing list, check it out, it's kinda
neat!!

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Hey,

 Just for fun go to http://www.hamsterdance.com and make sure that the
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one of my very close friends is a big cure fan (i know, i tried telling her 
how badly they suck, but to no avail.  ah well).  apparently, they are 
playing a show at the vic in chicago the nite before live on the decks 
III.  there is nothing on ticketmaster's site about it.  if anyone has any 
hookups or ideas, please let me know as she would be the happiest kid in 
the world if i could get her tix to this show.

thanks!

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Michael, you still don't warrant a gas face just yet since it's always 
been obvious (to me, at least) that you know your hip-hop, but for real,
why hate on two different scenes (both sharing common roots) evolving and
coming together?  It's about progress... I esp. don't get why you dislike
b-boys breaking in jungle sets.  JUNGLE IS HIP-HOP.  Ain't no other
truth.  I'd much rather see b-boys on the floor having a good time than
the hundreds of people sitting on their asses along the wall doing
lord knows what.  Fuck them.  Michael, which one of these groups do you
like better?  People feel the music how they feel it.  Let them feel it
the way they want to.  BTW, I offer a cash reward to anyone that can teach
me flairs to 90's...
You be actin' Amazon, when the camera's on, but when the camera's off, you
be actin soft (Lootpack, for the unenlightened)
You know what, who knows, the "rave scene" may not have been here if
Kraftwerk had never sampled Afrika Bambaataa...nah, just playin...
Jerry

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Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!

On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> te -
> 
> the climate where you live (cincinnati?  geez it's not that far away) is 
> obviously different than it is here.  anyone who has been to events in 
> columbus in the past couple of years should be able to tell you - the 
> circles here take up the bulk of main rooms sometimes, they are totally out 
> of hand and the breakers are all about themselves.  i can literally feel 
> the egocentrism leaking out of that horrible circle.  i'm sorry but that is 
> just not what raves were supposed to be about (THIS IS ME COMING ACROSS AS 
> A KNOW-IT-ALL AND RUBBING TE THE WRONG WAY - i don't mean to, but i have a 
> tendency to sound a bit more condescending than i intend)
> 
> break circles and stupid drugs (G, K, H etc) are my biggest bones of 
> contention when it comes to the rave scene.  so i speak rather passionately 
> on either topic.  i do not think of joe or jane average raver as an 
> idiot.  i just have a problem with kids telling me they are "down for the 
> real hip hop" when they don't really understand where it came from.  *i* 
> don't make such claims and i've been listening to hip hop since my first 
> UTFO and kurtis blow tapes in 3rd grade.  i think that if the break circle 
> fad in columbus was more like, say, milwaukee (where i saw smallish circles 
> near the rear of the room, bothering no-one)... i might not be so fired up 
> about this.
> 
> still hating break circles at raves...
> 
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>It's about progress... I esp. don't get why you dislike
>b-boys breaking in jungle sets.  JUNGLE IS HIP-HOP.  Ain't no other
>truth.

!!  i was going to tear into this, and then i figured that any number of 
the junglists on this list would have a lot more fun with it...so i'm not 
gonna touch it.  :D


>  I'd much rather see b-boys on the floor having a good time than
>the hundreds of people sitting on their asses along the wall doing
>lord knows what.  Fuck them.  Michael, which one of these groups do you
>like better?  People feel the music how they feel it.  Let them feel it
>the way they want to.

i'll give you this one, tho.  fucked up k-kids lounging about aren't doing 
much for the whole rave experience.  innit.



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bahahahahaha

ECW is doing a show at "the rave" !!!!!!

this on the heels of a pharoah monch show there to i hear....woooooooot!

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michael go to bed or suffer and get on icq again and talk to me before i 
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Tonite, Feb 5, 2000 in Columbus, Ohio
Malfunction Production brings you RADIATE

MAIN info line - Malfunction - (614) 470-2752

(directions follow event information)


*ROOM 1*

Robert Hood - M-Planet/Axis/Duet - Detroit

Titonton - LIVE P.A. (incl strings & vocals) - Residual/*BB/Malfunction - 
Columbus

Freaky Flow with MC Flipside - Placebo/Stickmen/FDCO 416/Obscene 
Underground/Liquid Adrenaline - Toronto

Freddy Boom Boom (a.k.a. MC Flipside) - Placebo/Energy Radio 
107.9/Stickman/Aquarius/Jinxx/Snugg/Kappa - Toronto

Divine - Malfunction - Dayton

Ben Kenobi - Malfunction/Sphere/Fame - Columbus

Thomas James - Residual/Down Deep - Columbus

MAGICIANS: Eric McDonald & Chris Smith

*ROOM 2*

Watdafuk - Tri-Quad - Columbus
Delcina - Malfunction/Ele-Mental - Columbus
Srvo - Malfunction - Columbus
Prizm - Detroit/Columbus
Ronin - Malfunction - Columbus
Alias - Malfunction - Columbus
Charles Bronson - Malfunction - Columbus
Ricochet - Malfunction - Dayton
Suspence - Malfunction/Clubhead - Boston/Columbus

(Blast back to your past in old school video game room.  Private Collection 
of Tony Ramos.)

*ROOM 3* (Hosted by Collective Intelligence)

Trevor Lamont - Teamsters/Soul Bros./Alien Squad - Lexington
Zona - C.I.A./Midwest Funk Factory - Columbus
Aria - C.I.A./Skunkwerks - Columbus
Moah Deep - C.I.A. - Columbus
Dano - C.I.A. - Dayton
Derek Johnson - On The Floor - Columbus

SOUND - Thundersound/Tri-Quad
LIGHTS - Project 7, KY
VENUE - Enormous, clean, and virgin.  Please wear soft-soled shoes to 
protect the floor.
VENDING - Untranslatable, Higher Ground

**DIRECTIONS**

-from the EAST - take 70 W to 71 N
-from the WEST - take 70 E to 71 N
-from the NORTH - take 71 S
-from the SOUTH - take 71 N

-from I-71, get onto 670 EAST (Airport)
-EXIT at 5TH AVE
-turn RIGHT off the exit

-proceed 2-3 miles down the road
-the venue will be on your RIGHT

-the venue is "THE HOOPS" BASKETBALL CLUB.  it is clearly marked out front, 
with a sign that says (you guessed it) "'THE HOOPS'  BASKETBALL CLUB".

Admission at the door is $20.00 plus 2 canned goods.
Please drive safely, especially if you are coming from out of town.  (Leave 
early and take your time, it's winter!)

R.O.A.R. in full effect.
Full afterhours brought to you by: STRIKEFORCE




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ok this is pretty nasty, but i am still gonna have seafood tonight

----- Original Message -----
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>
> Nice to know that it's not just us boys who get up to things like this!
>  >One morning around 5am 22 year old Susan DeLucci of Kittery, Maine, woke
>  >up with a painful need to urinate. At first she thought she had
diarrhea,
>  >but  when she stood up out of bed, she realized that it was urinary
pain.
>  >It was very similar to the feeling of having diarrhea,just out the wrong
>  >hole. She wobbled to the toilet and upon sitting on it, her vagina
erupted
>  >into the most horrific messy farting noise anyone has ever heard. In
>  >paralyzing
>  >pain, Ms. DeLucci for the next few minutes continued to push  and
squirt
>  >out of
>  >   her vagina a burning tide of wretch and filth while she gripped  the
>  >sides
>  >of the toilet, white-knuckled. She was screaming wildly, and the
neighbors
>  >called the police. When  medics  arrived they found Ms. DeNucci
unconscious
>  >lying on the floor of her bathroom wearing nothing but her bath robe.
>  >Running down her leg, was a stream of brown and green syrup. The medic
had
>  >to transfer her to a stretcher, so he grabbed her left leg which was
bent
>  >crossing her other leg, to straighten her out. She was lying there all
>  >twisted up.
>  >When he lifted her left leg to straighten her body out, he exposed her
>  >vagina
>  >at which point a creature, no larger than the tip of a finger wormed its
>  >way
>  >   out of her genitals and landed on the floor with a wet popping sound.
>  >Shocked, the medic stared
>  >at the creature that was lying on the tile bathroom floor in a casing of
>  >mucous.
>  >It was a tiny mud shrimp and it sat there  on the cold floor gasping for
>  >water while flipping itself back and forth. The horrified medic turned
to
>  >the toilet as he felt the
>  >nausea setting in.
>  >When he put his face down into the toilet to puke what he saw was so
>  >horrific that
>  >to this day he cannot look into a toilet without convulsing. The entire
>  >toilet bowl was boiling with baby brown mud shrimp flipping and
splashing
>  >at
>  >a furious pace. If you think that is bad - wait until you hear how it
>  >happened:  Ms. DeLucci's death was the result of a combination of shock
and
>  >severe head trauma. She  stood up over the toilet in pain and when she
saw
>  >what she had done, she went into shock and fell, smashing her head on
the
>  >toilet and
>  >then on the floor. it is believed by police that two nights before the
>  >accident she had
>  >purchased a live lobster at a fish market. While lying in a tub, she
gently
>  >inserted the creature's tail into her vagina to derive physical
pleasure.
>  >At that point, she held a lighter under the creature's face causing it
to
>  >flip  its tail in a violent snapping motion. The medics found a lesbian
XXX
>  >video in the VCR and the TV was positioned on a table in front of the
tub.
>  >The lobster was found in the kitchen garbage can wrapped in a paper bag.
>  >Traces of Ms. DeLucci's DNA were found on the lobster along with pubic
>  >hairs that had wedged themselves between the lobsters' tail joints. The
>  >lobster's
>  >face was lightly burned with the same fuel used in lighters. The
lobster's
>  >digestive track and colon were found to be full of mud shrimp egg
casings.
>  >Doctors believe that the lobster had eaten them (they are common in the
>  >water at fish markets and are usually harmlessly boiled to death)and the
>  >lobster had crapped them out into Ms. DeLucci's vagina when she was
>  >torturing it. Maine mud shrimp only take two days to gestate and Ms.
>  >DeLucci
>  >was only
>  >four days away from getting her period. Doctors believe that at that
point
>  >of her  menstrual cycle, her womb was the perfect PH balance to grow
these
>  >mud shrimp which are a much larger version of the popular "Sea Monkey"
pets
>  >sold throughout the US.  Overnight the eggs had hatched and the mud
shrimp
>  >began doubling in size every ten minutes!!!
>  >You can imagine the pain she was in when she woke up that morning and
>  >gave birth to well over 1,000 mud shrimp in her toilet.........
>  >
>
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 I keep thinking about "Muddy the Mud-Skipper" from Ren & Stimpy.



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In a message dated 2/5/0 8:33:41 AM, michael wrote:

<<one of my very close friends is a big cure fan (i know, i tried 
telling her  how badly they suck, but to no avail.  ah well).>>

speakin o which, Lords of Acid is coming to Columbus
again @ the Newport on Feb. 12th...with DJ Genocide
and Praga Khan...woo hoo!!

but i kinda have a feelin i can't go cuz i'm so broke and
don't get paid 'til the 18th!...cuz the beast still owns the
banks...speakin o which, this is how wack they are...
apparently MBNA America my credit card company 
took out $80, when i specifically wrote $30 on my 
check...i even friggin donated plasma to make sure 
that i would have enough money in the bank so that
my electricity bill check wouldnt bounce...for some
unknown fees...it made my account 55 cents short so
that it did bounce, so they could charge me a $26 bounce 
check fee...and pay AEP a $6 bounce check fee!!...

thank God for my new roommates or else i would not be makin
rent!!...what's even more ridiculous is that my roommates, 
who have never even attended college, make as much money in 
one 3 hour shoot as i do for working one week, since my new job
pays 60 cents less than my previous job...what's worse, the job
wants me to drop my class to work full time for them...so 
basically, i am being forced to give up my dreams to become a 
slave to the beast!!...my current job that i was forced to take
because i was so broke?...collections!!...talk about literally
being forced to help the rich get richer & the poor get poorer!!




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In a message dated 2/5/0 4:53:16 AM, michael wrote:

<<still hating break circles at raves...>>

uh, are you sure this has nothing to with your previous white
supremist attitude?

and would like to rid the rave scene of having any black
conotations also?

when the very music you spin came from those roots!!

how typical, overtake a scene that was started by minorities
with hate and lies and was started out of love and acceptance 
and turn it into another selfish greedy white capitalist venture!!

and there's nothing we can do to stop it, because they have all the
money...and if you stand up & say anything, like me, you'll be
dubbed a "gay chink"...and have your income taken away!!



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Just out of curiousity, StevieT...do you EVER make a post that you don't
turn around to relate to your own life in some boring, pathetic way?

And regarding Lords of Acid...my guy bought me I Sit On Acid on vinyl...so
*NYAH* too all of you! ;p

o/~darling come here...fuck me up the... o/~

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michael knight wrote:

> i always wanted to throw a blowout concert-style HUGE event called "rave
> new world".  heh.

Heh... that's funny.  I remember circa '93 - '94, Newsweek ran a huge
article with that same name all about the burgeoning Long Island rave
scene.  I even remember what the front page looked like - some freakish
raver girl with gawdawful red ponytails looking Pippy Longstocking...  She
was covered in crap and you could see behind her what was left of the field
the kids had been partying on all night...

Ahhh... the memories.

one love,
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Subject: [mw] EVERYTHING YOU NEED ON 'NO MERCY'
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NO MERCY
Valentine's Day Weekend
Saturday February 12, 2000
Kansas City Area
9:30pm - 7am

We're setting up the sound in the afternoon, so everything WILL BE ready
to go at 9:30pm.  If we have a line like we did at Natural Disaster, we
will open the doors a little early (with a dj on-hand, and ready to
play).

COST:

$16.00  (Yes, this includes professional lighting)
 
LINE-UP

Carlos [San Francisco] (S.F. House Collective)  
DDR [U.K. Live acid-techno PA] (Smitten, Stay-Up Forever)
Roman [Seattle] (Funky Techno Tribe, NativeVision.com)
Ryan Tinsley [Chicago} (tech-house)
My Friend Mike/Nico [Kansas City] (ambient dnb)
Offtrack [Kansas]
DJ Gruve [Chicago]
 
INFOLINES:
 
816.292.2881
816.871.5151
816.920.3578 (messages only)

SAME PLACE AS NATURAL DISASTER - GUARANTEED NOT TO GET SHUT-DOWN

DIRECTIONS (A LITTLE MORE COMPLETE THAN IN THE PAST):

[] indicates road/street name

>From east (downtown KC):

I-70W
To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

>From west:

TOLL
I-70E
To Bonner Springs Exit 
Through tollgate, turn left onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

TOLLFREE 
K-10 E (LEAVING LAWRENCE)
TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
Follow north (eventually you'll see the tollbooths that are off I70)
just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

>From north:
I-35S
To I-70W
To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].


>From south:

TOLL
I-35N
To I-70W
To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

TOLLFREE
I-435W
K-10 (WEST)
TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
Follow north (eventually you'll see the tollbooths that are off I70)
just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

Venue is named:  Racer's 2  [Big lit sign in the sky]

*Please note:

Highway 7 is a divided highway with a posted speed limit of 65 mph.  Get
in the left lane as you approach the second 4-way stoplight.  You will
have to turn left abruptly from the fast lane of the highway.  I suggest
not picking up too much speed once you leave the light because its a
sharp left turn without a turn lane and poorly lit.  It's REALLY easy to
miss.

www.syquil.com

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i knew there was a hostile take-over going into effect,
the first sign was when Nicole and I started Navigate 
(Malfunction's first party last year), i was the one who 
brought Ryan & Nicole over to Walt's House in the beginning...
near the end, both Nicole and I (the party's true conceivers)
were almost competely pushed out of it...

the second sign was when i set up that massive promotor's 
meeting in Ohio right before Family Affair 5...

15 crus showed up to debate on whether we should allow
corporate sponsors...everybody focused on me & brian...i gave
brian the final say, because it was his party...he decided
against it...because he wanted FA5 to remain underground 
and for it to be free...but obviously there was much bitterness
and hostility as a result of his decision near the end of the
meeting...

from that time on, i watched from the background as things
got progressively worse...everything from destroying my and
brian's reputation and careers with their hate and lies to 
converting the underground into the over-priced drugfest that
it is today!!...all for what?!...for the preservation of white power
and their greedy and selfish means!!...disgusting!!

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if your dick catches on fire, does that make you a flamer??

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Subject: [mw] b-boy circles/radiate/malfunction...true roots...
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oh yes, one final thing...

if you go to radiate...ask for ryan nickel, he's the head of 
malfunction & ask him how navigate and malfunction was 
started and if he doesn't lie, he should tell you through nicole 
hassoun (his ex-girlfriend, my ex roommate)...because it was 
her who acquired their first space, the otterbein college gym 
in westerville for free...

and how was that space suggested as a possible party venue?
...when nicole invited me to practice breakdancing in that gym
and after an extensive practice session, i told nicole how
perfect the gym would be for a rave...the next day, she consulted
her school's activities counselor & the party blew up from there
...so, yes, believe it or not, navigate, malfunction's first party 
was truly started by break dancers...rec shop, specifically...
(definitly not by white supremist trash talkin playa haters!)...

...just givin props where props are due...

...of course there are those who don't want you to hear the truth,
   but atleast now you know why...

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stevie, marge simpson said it best:  "you don't even know what you're 
afraid of anymore".  honestly, you are ten times more paranoid than any 
garden-variety crank addict.  i outlined why i do not like break circles at 
raves on more than one occasion.  never did i say "THEM DAMN NIGGERS IS 
RUININ IT FOR US DECENT WHITE FOLK WHO JUST WANNA RAVE".  everything in the 
world is not a racial issue, as much as you might like it to be.

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what the fuck.  malfunction production has done 10 times more for the ohio 
rave scene in 14 months than steven y. tsang has done for it in 6+ 
years.  and stevie has the nerve to accuse people of playa-hating.  what's 
that they say, about casting the first stone?  hmm...

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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D TEXTURES  * www.textures.org * UPDATE =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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"What we need is... satisfaction..."

In this update:

o - Show reminder
o - New mixes online
o - Party info - Ultravibe - Feb 12, 2000 - Columbia, SC

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Tonight's show will feature some of the deeper, abstract, more=20
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hopefully have a special guest appearance [gotta listen to find out=20
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going to the following link [http://wusc.sc.edu/wusc.ram], or by checking=20
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Showtime is 8-10 PM, Eastern Standard Time.

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*o* - Scott Findley - "A House Mix" ... deep, chunky, late night basix...

... ALSO, if you have sent us a tape or CD, please be patient.  We are=20
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FeedBack Productions Presents...

ULTRAVIBE

Sat. Feb. 12, 2000
Columbia, SC

Featuring...

*o* - PRESTON CRAIG//.mOD Recordings, Atlanta, GA
We are proud th bring you the live PA action from this ATL. house and=20
jungle pioneer!!

*o* - DJ MET//The Passengers//Phunkodelic

*o* - DJ solidst8//wusc 90.5fm// http://www.textures.org

*o* - RYAN//2Deep

*o* - DJ SoulShaker & Greg Sparks//FeedBack

$10 @ the door...no re-entry fee!!
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The Grog Shoppe, 746 Sunset Blvd., W.Cola., SC
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Thanks for reading!

- Peter / Solidst8 - ICQ: 3157482

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Out of consideration to the world electronic music festival and unity 2000 (they decided on July 15th even though we posted that date late october 99), we have moved tha date for Future Teknology 2.

Future Teknology 2 will take place in Cincinnati on
Saturday July 29th, 2000. This will be our largest and most expensive production to date. The line-up will consist of world renowned techno, house, trance, breakbeat, and hip-hop performers from around the globe.

Please help us network so that another crew near us does not plan anything for this date.

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In a message dated 2/5/00 11:21:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
psy-jester@goatrance.com writes:

<< if your dick catches on fire, does that make you a flamer?? >>
uh huh

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 05 21:25:21 2000
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i thinx you've been smokin too much a dat bluegrass on
dat ass ho!       <snip this>       +=] -Bagonia baby

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> :St. Louis gots it goin on Saturday Feb 12th with
> the 
> :Supastars of Love's 6 year Valentine Anniversary
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> :pants and ready to dance.  This party will kick
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> not as much as the party in louisville. NEENER!
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> :U suck, we rock.
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2000 20:13:57 -0800 (PST) "Ignatius J. Reilly"
<te_one@yahoo.com> writes:
>  
>  Is a 20' circle really such an imposition? 

When in a large venue, no.  More often than not (at least in my
experience) though, the circles seem to happen more often at
small venues where this 20' circle takes up half or more of the
dance floor in a particular room.  I have seen people clear the
dance floors because there is no more room to dance.  The
problem, as I see it, stems not from the "breakers" themselves,
but the crowd (3-4 rings deep) that inevitably gathers around
to effectively suffocate the rest of the dance floor.
Keep in mind that I have nothing against break circles personally
UNLESS they are crowding the floor.  I even like to watch some
of the better b-boys and b-girls on occasion.
As far as people looking goofy while dancing, I don't think anyone
on this list can look goofier than "The Guy" in LA whose feet
are backwards.  Yes, I do mean backwards, as in his toes face
the same direction as his ass.  Try and imagine what he looks like
dancing.  He is a helluva nice guy though, just kinda freaked me
out the first time I saw him 'cause I was trippin so hard.

Peace and love,

Mike aka Dr. Bläsé
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if anyone knows the kid who died.... his name was ryan..  please e amil me 
back!!


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+Your dumb, your dumb+

hehe
umm
you're


fucking consolidated rocked

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I think I have these sudden bursts of energy every six months or so... when 
the planets collide just right or something... but the last month was an 
affirmation of sorts.  I had been skimming the whole thread discussion this 
afternoon (all 257 messages) and I saw this little thread about hip hop and 
the like.  It solified more in me of what was demonstrated at the pinnacle of 
the evening last night.

I am a motherfucking raver.

The main incident started around 2 am last night at Delta in Madison.  I got 
up on the decks and started to go through plates and what not... I decided at 
the request of a couple of cats that wanted me to mc... to get on the mic and 
bump a familiar lyric thats become a fucking mantra in my head... it just 
feels good to say it over and over again... "skin deep but how deep is skin 
especially when the soul's the thing your getting in."  It'd been the first 
time in a while I'd gotten to take my girl to a nice gig that wasn't all 
jenky.  Roadtrips always spark up weird convo's and inspiration.  So I was 
amped off the whole situation.  Not to mention the booth setup, needles, 
mixers, soundsystem, and space were just fucking a-class.  The fucking 
monitors (dual... one high, one low with variable loudness) combined with 
everything else gave me this tranquil, giddy feeling in the booth... It was 
fucking boss.  i dip into my bag, play the music that I listen to over and 
over in my shitty apartment keeping me sane, and everyone is just smiling and 
screaming... felt good, as usual.  it was a mother fucking party.

then this kid comes up to the booth, threatening the whole concept.

"Yo, my friend wants to battle you on the mic right now, yo."
"Now?"
"Yeah, man, are you DOWN?"
"I'm like dj'ing right now."
"Yeah, don't you wanna battle my boy?"

I'm sitting here perplexed... I'm lost in self expression... something I've 
fought really fucking hard for in this thing... something I get maybe once 
every six months when I meet a string of promoters like Michael from American 
cheese, the kids from stratus, and Dave from Madlove to name a few.  

and this mother fucker is invading my sanity asking to fucking battle... 

battle battle battle.  fight fight fight.  ego ego ego.

If the rave scene was founded on and thrived on a concept of peace love unity 
and respect... no matter how abused the concept.  WE HAVE SURVIVED.  I've 
been raving for close to fucking eight or so years.

so shoot me for what I'm about to say.

Where is the hip hop scene right now, and why are you 'so-called' b-boys 
attending something that threatens the aesthetic of your craft.  The simple 
fact is the hip hop scene that these kids think they are down with... doesn't 
welcome them... or they can't suck it dry and make cash from it.  Or maybe 
truer indeed... they are AFRAID to prove themselves on that turf and 
territory.

I'm getting off track.

i discovered for maybe the thousandth time why I stay involved in this.  It 
supports me... it satiates me.  like it does to many others.. regardless of 
if they admit it or not.

I think its about fucking time we give praise where praise is fucking due.

and thats in front of the mother fucking speakers, concerned with nothing 
else except whats coming out of it.

and the next person who wants to battle... be careful what you wish for... 
you wanna be all hip hop about it... we can be all 'hip hop' about it... and 
take it outside the venue where it belongs.  Nobody said I was going to use 
my mouth... 

I like to speak in sign language most of the time... watch the hands, mother 
fucker.

entro

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Dude, I've felt the same way for a damn long time. I'm glad you put in those 
words, well-spoken. It's like If Peace Love Unity and Respect can't be heald 
highest in a Rave, if people can't get a feeling similar to Lucid Dreaming 
when they're at a rave, why go to a rave? The whole point is that feeling of 
happiness, clerity, and stability. It's all about feeling fulfilled. Why do 
people try to be assholes about it? They just don't imderstand.

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not having eq nnothing to do with not flowing
hyperactive fucked up a lot when he was beat juggling
n what the fuck was that cow comment?
u live in fucking moline
same fucking thing

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"Mad Lion, hold tight....."
Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or Original?  I can C
how peoples with weaker skills would try to battle at a "rave", but
won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you look at the
anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is meant to replace
PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no knowledge of self, or no
love for self, fighting and killing each other.  There for the
battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.  I understand U
was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy wanted to battle, he
should wait for the appropriate venue.  However, mc battling is not
intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and sport, if done
responsibly that is.  Peace.


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On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> I think I have these sudden bursts of energy every six months or so... when 
> the planets collide just right or something... but the last month was an 
> affirmation of sorts.  I had been skimming the whole thread discussion this 
> afternoon (all 257 messages) and I saw this little thread about hip hop and 
> the like.  It solified more in me of what was demonstrated at the pinnacle of 
> the evening last night.
> 
> I am a motherfucking raver.
> 
> The main incident started around 2 am last night at Delta in Madison.  I got 
> up on the decks and started to go through plates and what not... I decided at 
> the request of a couple of cats that wanted me to mc... to get on the mic and 
> bump a familiar lyric thats become a fucking mantra in my head... it just 
> feels good to say it over and over again... "skin deep but how deep is skin 
> especially when the soul's the thing your getting in."  It'd been the first 
> time in a while I'd gotten to take my girl to a nice gig that wasn't all 
> jenky.  Roadtrips always spark up weird convo's and inspiration.  So I was 
> amped off the whole situation.  Not to mention the booth setup, needles, 
> mixers, soundsystem, and space were just fucking a-class.  The fucking 
> monitors (dual... one high, one low with variable loudness) combined with 
> everything else gave me this tranquil, giddy feeling in the booth... It was 
> fucking boss.  i dip into my bag, play the music that I listen to over and 
> over in my shitty apartment keeping me sane, and everyone is just smiling and 
> screaming... felt good, as usual.  it was a mother fucking party.
> 
> then this kid comes up to the booth, threatening the whole concept.
> 
> "Yo, my friend wants to battle you on the mic right now, yo."
> "Now?"
> "Yeah, man, are you DOWN?"
> "I'm like dj'ing right now."
> "Yeah, don't you wanna battle my boy?"
> 
> I'm sitting here perplexed... I'm lost in self expression... something I've 
> fought really fucking hard for in this thing... something I get maybe once 
> every six months when I meet a string of promoters like Michael from American 
> cheese, the kids from stratus, and Dave from Madlove to name a few.  
> 
> and this mother fucker is invading my sanity asking to fucking battle... 
> 
> battle battle battle.  fight fight fight.  ego ego ego.
> 
> If the rave scene was founded on and thrived on a concept of peace love unity 
> and respect... no matter how abused the concept.  WE HAVE SURVIVED.  I've 
> been raving for close to fucking eight or so years.
> 
> so shoot me for what I'm about to say.
> 
> Where is the hip hop scene right now, and why are you 'so-called' b-boys 
> attending something that threatens the aesthetic of your craft.  The simple 
> fact is the hip hop scene that these kids think they are down with... doesn't 
> welcome them... or they can't suck it dry and make cash from it.  Or maybe 
> truer indeed... they are AFRAID to prove themselves on that turf and 
> territory.
> 
> I'm getting off track.
> 
> i discovered for maybe the thousandth time why I stay involved in this.  It 
> supports me... it satiates me.  like it does to many others.. regardless of 
> if they admit it or not.
> 
> I think its about fucking time we give praise where praise is fucking due.
> 
> and thats in front of the mother fucking speakers, concerned with nothing 
> else except whats coming out of it.
> 
> and the next person who wants to battle... be careful what you wish for... 
> you wanna be all hip hop about it... we can be all 'hip hop' about it... and 
> take it outside the venue where it belongs.  Nobody said I was going to use 
> my mouth... 
> 
> I like to speak in sign language most of the time... watch the hands, mother 
> fucker.
> 
> entro
> 
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anyone... bueller...  im looking for info about happyhardcore- history, 
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Caucasian or original,what would this matter just out of curiousity?

easy,Nujack



>From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>Reply-To: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>To: Kidentropy@aol.com
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] i am a raver.
>Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:37:23 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>"Mad Lion, hold tight....."
>Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or Original?  I can C
>how peoples with weaker skills would try to battle at a "rave", but
>won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you look at the
>anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is meant to replace
>PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no knowledge of self, or no
>love for self, fighting and killing each other.  There for the
>battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.  I understand U
>was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy wanted to battle, he
>should wait for the appropriate venue.  However, mc battling is not
>intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and sport, if done
>responsibly that is.  Peace.
>
>
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>allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
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>
>On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I think I have these sudden bursts of energy every six months or so... 
>when
> > the planets collide just right or something... but the last month was an
> > affirmation of sorts.  I had been skimming the whole thread discussion 
>this
> > afternoon (all 257 messages) and I saw this little thread about hip hop 
>and
> > the like.  It solified more in me of what was demonstrated at the 
>pinnacle of
> > the evening last night.
> >
> > I am a motherfucking raver.
> >
> > The main incident started around 2 am last night at Delta in Madison.  I 
>got
> > up on the decks and started to go through plates and what not... I 
>decided at
> > the request of a couple of cats that wanted me to mc... to get on the 
>mic and
> > bump a familiar lyric thats become a fucking mantra in my head... it 
>just
> > feels good to say it over and over again... "skin deep but how deep is 
>skin
> > especially when the soul's the thing your getting in."  It'd been the 
>first
> > time in a while I'd gotten to take my girl to a nice gig that wasn't all
> > jenky.  Roadtrips always spark up weird convo's and inspiration.  So I 
>was
> > amped off the whole situation.  Not to mention the booth setup, needles,
> > mixers, soundsystem, and space were just fucking a-class.  The fucking
> > monitors (dual... one high, one low with variable loudness) combined 
>with
> > everything else gave me this tranquil, giddy feeling in the booth... It 
>was
> > fucking boss.  i dip into my bag, play the music that I listen to over 
>and
> > over in my shitty apartment keeping me sane, and everyone is just 
>smiling and
> > screaming... felt good, as usual.  it was a mother fucking party.
> >
> > then this kid comes up to the booth, threatening the whole concept.
> >
> > "Yo, my friend wants to battle you on the mic right now, yo."
> > "Now?"
> > "Yeah, man, are you DOWN?"
> > "I'm like dj'ing right now."
> > "Yeah, don't you wanna battle my boy?"
> >
> > I'm sitting here perplexed... I'm lost in self expression... something 
>I've
> > fought really fucking hard for in this thing... something I get maybe 
>once
> > every six months when I meet a string of promoters like Michael from 
>American
> > cheese, the kids from stratus, and Dave from Madlove to name a few.
> >
> > and this mother fucker is invading my sanity asking to fucking battle...
> >
> > battle battle battle.  fight fight fight.  ego ego ego.
> >
> > If the rave scene was founded on and thrived on a concept of peace love 
>unity
> > and respect... no matter how abused the concept.  WE HAVE SURVIVED.  
>I've
> > been raving for close to fucking eight or so years.
> >
> > so shoot me for what I'm about to say.
> >
> > Where is the hip hop scene right now, and why are you 'so-called' b-boys
> > attending something that threatens the aesthetic of your craft.  The 
>simple
> > fact is the hip hop scene that these kids think they are down with... 
>doesn't
> > welcome them... or they can't suck it dry and make cash from it.  Or 
>maybe
> > truer indeed... they are AFRAID to prove themselves on that turf and
> > territory.
> >
> > I'm getting off track.
> >
> > i discovered for maybe the thousandth time why I stay involved in this.  
>It
> > supports me... it satiates me.  like it does to many others.. regardless 
>of
> > if they admit it or not.
> >
> > I think its about fucking time we give praise where praise is fucking 
>due.
> >
> > and thats in front of the mother fucking speakers, concerned with 
>nothing
> > else except whats coming out of it.
> >
> > and the next person who wants to battle... be careful what you wish 
>for...
> > you wanna be all hip hop about it... we can be all 'hip hop' about it... 
>and
> > take it outside the venue where it belongs.  Nobody said I was going to 
>use
> > my mouth...
> >
> > I like to speak in sign language most of the time... watch the hands, 
>mother
> > fucker.
> >
> > entro
> >
> > -
> > questions about this mailing list?
> > http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html
> >
> >
>
>
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In a message dated 2/5/00 12:06:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< what the fuck.  malfunction production has done 10 times more for the ohio 
 rave scene in 14 months than steven y. tsang has done for it in 6+ 
 years.  and stevie has the nerve to accuse people of playa-hating.  what's 
 that they say, about casting the first stone?  hmm... >>

excuse me, i never said i had anything against malfunction!
why would i be against something i helped start?...

i just gave props where props are due...

i specifically addressed your problem with break circles, but i do
like how you tried twisting things around.



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Peace.  Because its rare I see two caucasians battle lyrically, except for
Sole vs. El P on seperate records.  Peace.


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On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, Winn/Nujack . wrote:

> 
> Caucasian or original,what would this matter just out of curiousity?
> 
> easy,Nujack
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >Reply-To: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >To: Kidentropy@aol.com
> >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: [mw] i am a raver.
> >Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:37:23 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >
> >"Mad Lion, hold tight....."
> >Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or Original?  I can C
> >how peoples with weaker skills would try to battle at a "rave", but
> >won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you look at the
> >anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is meant to replace
> >PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no knowledge of self, or no
> >love for self, fighting and killing each other.  There for the
> >battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.  I understand U
> >was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy wanted to battle, he
> >should wait for the appropriate venue.  However, mc battling is not
> >intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and sport, if done
> >responsibly that is.  Peace.
> >
> >
> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
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> >
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> >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I think I have these sudden bursts of energy every six months or so... 
> >when
> > > the planets collide just right or something... but the last month was an
> > > affirmation of sorts.  I had been skimming the whole thread discussion 
> >this
> > > afternoon (all 257 messages) and I saw this little thread about hip hop 
> >and
> > > the like.  It solified more in me of what was demonstrated at the 
> >pinnacle of
> > > the evening last night.
> > >
> > > I am a motherfucking raver.
> > >
> > > The main incident started around 2 am last night at Delta in Madison.  I 
> >got
> > > up on the decks and started to go through plates and what not... I 
> >decided at
> > > the request of a couple of cats that wanted me to mc... to get on the 
> >mic and
> > > bump a familiar lyric thats become a fucking mantra in my head... it 
> >just
> > > feels good to say it over and over again... "skin deep but how deep is 
> >skin
> > > especially when the soul's the thing your getting in."  It'd been the 
> >first
> > > time in a while I'd gotten to take my girl to a nice gig that wasn't all
> > > jenky.  Roadtrips always spark up weird convo's and inspiration.  So I 
> >was
> > > amped off the whole situation.  Not to mention the booth setup, needles,
> > > mixers, soundsystem, and space were just fucking a-class.  The fucking
> > > monitors (dual... one high, one low with variable loudness) combined 
> >with
> > > everything else gave me this tranquil, giddy feeling in the booth... It 
> >was
> > > fucking boss.  i dip into my bag, play the music that I listen to over 
> >and
> > > over in my shitty apartment keeping me sane, and everyone is just 
> >smiling and
> > > screaming... felt good, as usual.  it was a mother fucking party.
> > >
> > > then this kid comes up to the booth, threatening the whole concept.
> > >
> > > "Yo, my friend wants to battle you on the mic right now, yo."
> > > "Now?"
> > > "Yeah, man, are you DOWN?"
> > > "I'm like dj'ing right now."
> > > "Yeah, don't you wanna battle my boy?"
> > >
> > > I'm sitting here perplexed... I'm lost in self expression... something 
> >I've
> > > fought really fucking hard for in this thing... something I get maybe 
> >once
> > > every six months when I meet a string of promoters like Michael from 
> >American
> > > cheese, the kids from stratus, and Dave from Madlove to name a few.
> > >
> > > and this mother fucker is invading my sanity asking to fucking battle...
> > >
> > > battle battle battle.  fight fight fight.  ego ego ego.
> > >
> > > If the rave scene was founded on and thrived on a concept of peace love 
> >unity
> > > and respect... no matter how abused the concept.  WE HAVE SURVIVED.  
> >I've
> > > been raving for close to fucking eight or so years.
> > >
> > > so shoot me for what I'm about to say.
> > >
> > > Where is the hip hop scene right now, and why are you 'so-called' b-boys
> > > attending something that threatens the aesthetic of your craft.  The 
> >simple
> > > fact is the hip hop scene that these kids think they are down with... 
> >doesn't
> > > welcome them... or they can't suck it dry and make cash from it.  Or 
> >maybe
> > > truer indeed... they are AFRAID to prove themselves on that turf and
> > > territory.
> > >
> > > I'm getting off track.
> > >
> > > i discovered for maybe the thousandth time why I stay involved in this.  
> >It
> > > supports me... it satiates me.  like it does to many others.. regardless 
> >of
> > > if they admit it or not.
> > >
> > > I think its about fucking time we give praise where praise is fucking 
> >due.
> > >
> > > and thats in front of the mother fucking speakers, concerned with 
> >nothing
> > > else except whats coming out of it.
> > >
> > > and the next person who wants to battle... be careful what you wish 
> >for...
> > > you wanna be all hip hop about it... we can be all 'hip hop' about it... 
> >and
> > > take it outside the venue where it belongs.  Nobody said I was going to 
> >use
> > > my mouth...
> > >
> > > I like to speak in sign language most of the time... watch the hands, 
> >mother
> > > fucker.
> > >
> > > entro
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In a message dated 2/5/00 2:03:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:

<< Peace God, what city U in?
 
 11 >>

....in the heart of the new nation
....in the heart of the new city named after the first of many white who could
    come & overtake the land of the native american indians, but legend has is
    it that a band of rainbow warriors would bring back the great spirit...
....i am the ultimate martyr, i am the final test of faith, and i am paying 
for man's
    sins....

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I definately thought the partE last nite was arranged and held together very 
well. As soon as I walked in the door I knew I was gonna have a good time. 
The lighting was tremendous, the kidz were kool, and the overall layout was 
welcoming. Props to my kidz there last nite & Shouts to the DJz. 

Sean

p.s. I'm still lookin 4 some1 to go to NYC with me later this month. 

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In a message dated 2/5/00 4:45:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Steviet069 writes:
 In a message dated 2/5/00 4:27:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:
 
 <<  ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
      ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
  ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++>>
 
 free wen ho 
lee!...http://cbsnews.cbs.com/now/story/0,1597,156124-412,00.shtml 

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Peace.  The link points to something about former CIA cointelpro director
John Deutch.  I didn't seen anything about wen ho lee.  I will just do a
net search.  Peace.

On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/5/00 4:45:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Steviet069 writes:
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http://www.crazyshit.com/pics/jenny_craig.html

check this out.  it's hardcore.  we all like hardcore.

seafooooodd?



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At 18:17 5-2-00 -0500, you wrote:

>I think I have these sudden bursts of energy every six months or so... when
>the planets collide just right or something... but the last month was an
>affirmation of sorts.

You see... This man is the reason I stay subscribed to this list. Wouldn't 
wanna miss it. Now go buy the album.

Eye-D

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http://www.crazyshit.com/pics/mrbean.html

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im back and i hate you
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didn't we already go over this earlier this week??
happy hardcore sucks!!!!


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yeh now *that* is annoying, and i think maybe the source of mr.
knight's problem. (just fyi, i've been to columbus many many times over
the past few years, usually for ele_mental events.. i even left the
state once when i got to go with pa to pick up a new john deere
thresher in indianapolis. heheh.. don't assume so much, man.) "hate" is
a strong word, and in this case (as in most)i'd say a waste of energy
as well.. who doesn't like seeing someone spin around on their head
like a top? that's entertaining, and gets the crowd hyped.. the problem
starts when some herb feels they need to prove themselves. this is
insecurity, no doubt.. MC's can pass the mic around without it having
to be a battle.. once again, it should be about self-expression, not
jealousy over someone else getting their chance to shine.. i've had
idiots come up to me when i'm dancing and try to start shit.. standing
there laughing usually does the trick, as these people are deathly
afraid of being made to look foolish.. besides which, it's usually some
kid tryin to flex their "dope likwid" (learned at the knee of Lord of
the Rave StevieT no doubt)..   

but.. it sounds like you were going off, the crowd was feelin it.. that
threatens some people.. those sort need counseling, or to just fuck
off, whichever.. 



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1) Mike 303 - Sound of Music - BlackJack
2) Cassius - La Mouche (Dj Falcon Mix) - Astralwerks
3) Dealers De Funk - New Jersey (Olav Basoski Mix) - Clubstar
4) Paul Johnson - Get Down (Angel Alanis Mix) - Moody test
5) Madison Avenue - Don't Call Me Baby (12" Mix) - Vicious Grooves
6) Jess & Crabbe - Big Booya (Yard Rock Mix) - Fiat Lux
7) Raw Instinct - Grande De Folie (Prassay Dub) - Peppermint Jam
8) Purveyors of Fine Funk - All You Need - Nepenta
9) Paul Johnson - Take a Little Chance - Dust Traxx
10) Deaf N Dumb Crew - Une Fois De Plus - Dust Traxx
11) Busta Funk - Funkyllenium - Funky Tone
12) Green Lite - Go - Jinxx
13) Paul Johnson - Disco Traxx vol. 2 - Confidential
14) Dj Jes & Sysco - Feels Like The First Time - Fresca
15) Studio 45 - Freak It - Nervous
16) Gene Hunt - Venus - Medusa
17) Crew 69 - Dub Cross - Medusa
18) Richie Hawtin - Decks Efxs & 909 - Minus
19) Dj Rush - Motherfuckin Bass (Original) - Mental Groove
20) Detroit Grand Pubas - Sandwiches - Throw
21) Mike Dearborn - Battle (Advent Mix) - Majesty
22) Pressure Funk - Pressure Theme (Adam Carola Full Force Remix) - Soma
23) Dj Rush - Be Afraid (Remix) - Basic Beat
24) User 07 - A - User 
25) 16C+ - Fruit Punch - Low Sense
26) DJ Rush - 1 2 3 - White Label
27) Thomas Krome - Lord of Darkness - Corb 002 white label
28) Jeff Mills - Skin Deep - Purpose Maker
29) Underworld - King of Snake (Dave Clarke Remix) - Junior Boys Own
30) Dj Rush - Lesson 2 - Force Inc


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In a message dated 2/5/00 6:39:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, te_one@yahoo.com 
writes:

<< besides which, it's usually some
 kid tryin to flex their "dope likwid" (learned at the knee of Lord of
 the Rave StevieT no doubt)..    >>

altho, i am a liquid master, my teachers were: colleen from pittsburgh, lisa 
lee
in new york, yoshi in seattle, and kurt aka dj release in cleveland...y'see 
true
dancers are not cocky and will always respect their teachers and give props
where props are due...it's just like martial arts (from which breakdancing was
inspired from...i should post my interview of frosty freeze from rock steady 
crew)
...the wack ones are the ones that go: oh, nobody inspired me i created all my
moves myself...wrong, everybody starts as a poser and develops their own 
style 
from there...

the new prodigy is kool-aid in indy...which shall also be the next rave 
mekka...

i find your "flex dope liquid" story very unbelievable since most liquid 
masters
don't really show off that much...i know i don't...liquid is not "battle 
based"...it 
is based in the heart in tune with the mind and the soul and the rhythym...i 
know 
i've only shown my moves to a selected few...that i have hand chosen...and 
they 
in turn have passed it on to others...it is a very underground thing...

lol, i even showed michael knight one move a long time ago...the peanut jar...

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adam carola?   oops marco
been watching too much loveline or something

> 1) Mike 303 - Sound of Music - BlackJack
> 2) Cassius - La Mouche (Dj Falcon Mix) - Astralwerks
> 3) Dealers De Funk - New Jersey (Olav Basoski Mix) - Clubstar
> 4) Paul Johnson - Get Down (Angel Alanis Mix) - Moody test
> 5) Madison Avenue - Don't Call Me Baby (12" Mix) - Vicious Grooves
> 6) Jess & Crabbe - Big Booya (Yard Rock Mix) - Fiat Lux
> 7) Raw Instinct - Grande De Folie (Prassay Dub) - Peppermint Jam
> 8) Purveyors of Fine Funk - All You Need - Nepenta
> 9) Paul Johnson - Take a Little Chance - Dust Traxx
> 10) Deaf N Dumb Crew - Une Fois De Plus - Dust Traxx
> 11) Busta Funk - Funkyllenium - Funky Tone
> 12) Green Lite - Go - Jinxx
> 13) Paul Johnson - Disco Traxx vol. 2 - Confidential
> 14) Dj Jes & Sysco - Feels Like The First Time - Fresca
> 15) Studio 45 - Freak It - Nervous
> 16) Gene Hunt - Venus - Medusa
> 17) Crew 69 - Dub Cross - Medusa
> 18) Richie Hawtin - Decks Efxs & 909 - Minus
> 19) Dj Rush - Motherfuckin Bass (Original) - Mental Groove
> 20) Detroit Grand Pubas - Sandwiches - Throw
> 21) Mike Dearborn - Battle (Advent Mix) - Majesty
> 22) Pressure Funk - Pressure Theme (Adam Carola Full Force Remix) - Soma
> 23) Dj Rush - Be Afraid (Remix) - Basic Beat
> 24) User 07 - A - User 
> 25) 16C+ - Fruit Punch - Low Sense
> 26) DJ Rush - 1 2 3 - White Label
> 27) Thomas Krome - Lord of Darkness - Corb 002 white label
> 28) Jeff Mills - Skin Deep - Purpose Maker
> 29) Underworld - King of Snake (Dave Clarke Remix) - Junior Boys Own
> 30) Dj Rush - Lesson 2 - Force Inc
> 
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Subject: Re: [mw] propaghandi and eating children
From: Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani <blitz666@uswest.net>
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gutter punk is what it's all about...lotz of alcohol, robbing another for
your first pair of docs, dirty ass rundown clubs with no rulz, wearing a
white shirt into a pit and coming out with it red makes my cock scream,
split lips and noses at the end of the night better than a straight up
fight, sittin on Hollywood Boulevard making more panhandling in one day that
a lot of Burger King jocks make in a week

WHAT THE FUCK IS STYLISH HARDCORE...is that like Green Day or Rancid...FUCK
THAT THERES NOTHING STYLISH ABOUT HARdCORE....or maybe that pussy ass HAPPY
HARDCORE genre that spouted with the techno scene is what your speaking of

On 02/04/2000 4:24 PM chad cumby prophesized the following:

> you guys are all crusty gutter-punks...
> let's talk about some stylish hardcore
> 
> san diego anyone?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 01:52:26PM -0600, Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani wrote:
>> 
>> lets also add
>> 
>> The Germs   Darby Crash was God
>> Dead Kennedy's
>> Youth Brigade
>> Social Distortion Mommy's Little Monster era Social D
>> The Subhumans
>> Exploited
>> Adolecents
>> D.I.
>> The Vandals
>> G.G. muthafuckin Allin
>> 
>> need i say more...you know the score....this is the REAL HARDKORE!!!!!!!


-----------------------------------------------------------
Everybody is an enemy.  fuck it I hate everybody.
I'm not a part of any scene, I do my own thing.
my mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
and my audience is the target!!!

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani
The Mighty FreeBass Collective & Conspiracy unINC.
http://bounce.to/blitz666
AOL IM: blitzgrafx
ICQ# 23795954
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http://members.tripod.com/~punkskaterchick/0f5bd850.jpg

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hey people :)

I'm trying to get a .ram file burned onto a CD, but it's proving to be a
little difficult.  I downloaded an application that *claims* to load all
real formats, but really only works for .rm and .ra (not .ram like i
need).

If you know anything about how I can do this, please e-mail me back
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Does anyone know if Two Twelve Hundred in Louisville with Richie Hawtin
on the 12th is an all ages event or is it 18&up?

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Any one know who to attribute this quote to?

Work like you don't need the money
Love like you've never been hurt
And Dance like no one's watching!

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theres no tellin.. ive seen it on the list... numerous other pepoles sig 
files.. ive even seen it in a coffee shop in miami.

anyone who claims fame to it is a big fat joe momma LIAR!!!!!!!!!

suck me beautiful
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In a message dated 05/02/00 10:51:18 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< altho, i am a liquid master, >>


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ooh, almost missed this one...

In a message dated 2/5/0 7:58:53 PM, michael wrote:

<<stevie, marge simpson said it best:  "you don't even know what you're 
afraid of anymore".  honestly, you are ten times more paranoid than any 
garden-variety crank addict.  i outlined why i do not like break circles at 
raves on more than one occasion.  never did i say "THEM DAMN NIGGERS IS 
RUININ IT FOR US DECENT WHITE FOLK WHO JUST WANNA RAVE".>>

paranoid?...well atleast you didn't call me a "dumb chink" this time
...gee thanks.

uh, i think you mean "crack" since "crank" is that MTV game on AOL.
in addition i believe it's meth or crystal that makes you paranoid.
crack makes you into a professional fiend or just flat out kills you
(the number one profit product designed by the CIA/Caucasian 
Intelligence Agency to eliminate the minorities while making them-
selves some tremendous cash flow)...

well, i do believe you were quoted as saying how you would rather
just kill & eat the poor or castrate them as well as all the single mom's
and since you already called me a "chink", you know one really can
not put "THEM DAMN NIGGERS IS RUININ IT FOR US DECENT WHITE FOLK 
WHO JUST WANNA RAVE" as something that you are really thinking
but when you say it, you just lie by saying it's something else...when
the truth is because you've gained 65lbs (as you've already admitted)
and can no longer dance anymore, because you were able to milk the 
poor just that much more so you can make yourself that much fatter or 
buy more records to spin, because you're too fat to dance now...

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In a message dated 2/6/0 6:42:54 AM, you wrote:

<<Work like you don't need the money

Love like you've never been hurt

And Dance like no one's watching!>>

yah, real easy when you're broke as a joke,
have had yur heart brocken way too many times,
and you've got fat white guys makin fun of you because they can't dance.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 06 08:57:17 2000
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I've posted much or replied to much lately
because I haven't been interested in much
of anything said in the list lately.

I'm looking for a release that was done in
1995 or so... I know its a long shot but it
is a must have.  I've been dying to get my
hands on it because of its sentimental 
value to me.  So here it is for those who
care...

Soletech Solewaves Detrechno

I believe the name of the artist is Soletech
The song is called Solewaves
and the record is Detrechno
I have no idea though... I've searched high
and low for a copy in any format of this track
and have turned up squat that is usable.

I know there is a short part of it in the archives
at MTV's Amp and there is a reference to it in a
hyperreal 1995 post...

Anyone looking to make a person smile pass this
track my way and you will be rewarded.

Thanks
Zak Mayer
mayerzd13@mail.uww.edu

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I called my congressman's office and asked about this surcharge.  They
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At 07:23 PM 2/5/00 -0500, stevie t, blight of the White Man, wrote:
>....i am the ultimate martyr, i am the final test of faith, and i am paying
>for man's
>     sins....

you are an idiot, you are an idiot, and you are an idiot.

ps you're gay

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entro -

well said, sir.

no need for me to comment further...once again the kid entropy comes 
through and sums it all up perfectly in one fell post.  big up.

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>i
>know
>i've only shown my moves to a selected few...that i have hand chosen...and
>they
>in turn have passed it on to others...it is a very underground thing...

then how come you always used to talk about how much people in baltimore 
liked to watch you "throw down" in the dance circles?


>lol, i even showed michael knight one move a long time ago...the peanut jar...

lol indeed sir.  as i remember it, you told me i looked like i was opening 
a jar of peanut butter when i was dancing at some old columbus house 
party.  you then took the "joke" about 98374 steps too far (in typical 
stevie t fashion) and acted like you were making PB&J sandwiches.  and now 
you know...the rest of the story.


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everybody else can just piss off.


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Haha, almost everyone starts out a little Candy!


----- Original Message ----- 
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: you get extra credit if you actually know who noah is... =)
: god that story made me feel old as all hell. =)
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Just because you're wack doesn't mean you need to mock me...
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/5/00 4:45:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Steviet069 writes:
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>  <<  ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
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Nobody said it was easy.  Try it anyway.

    -treat it like a window, not a door
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>
> In a message dated 2/6/0 6:42:54 AM, you wrote:
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> <<Work like you don't need the money
>
> Love like you've never been hurt
>
> And Dance like no one's watching!>>
>
> yah, real easy when you're broke as a joke,
> have had yur heart brocken way too many times,
> and you've got fat white guys makin fun of you because they can't dance.
>



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I hate what you hate.
And I hate you too.
(Milk and Cheese Forever!!!!)

    -treat it like a window, not a door
    -bill
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Laura D. <applesauce909@hotmail.com>
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> im back and i hate you
> laura



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In a message dated 2/6/0 3:49:49 PM, michael wrote:

<<then how come you always used to talk about how much 
people in baltimore liked to watch you "throw down" in the 
dance circles?>>

what a pile of bullshit, because anybody that knows me knows
i hardly ever dance in circles...usually i'm off dancin in some
far off corner...like i said, "liquid" is not battle dancin...we vibe
off each other & the music...

secondly, if anything i would be the one *watching* the circle
especially in baltimore, since they have like the best dancers
in the world aside from new york!!

i'm really sick of you resorting to lies in a vain attempt to 
destroy my reputation, however by now from all your previous 
posts everybody pretty much has figured out your full of shit 
now anyways.

<<you then took the "joke" about 98374 steps too far (in typical 
stevie t fashion) and acted like you were making PB&J sandwiches>>

lol, yup...open the jar...scoop out the peanut butter...slap it on
some bread...stuff it in yur face...yummy how it goes down...
oops, bad peanut butter...barf it up...smash it up into a cube
...feed it to yur dance buddy...dance buddy takes the barfed up
peanut butter sandwich cube...looks at it funny...eats it anyways
...rubs belly as it goes down...oops, not feelin too well...has the
bad peanut butter sandwich shitz...poops it out...catches it in a
cup...passes it on to the next dance buddy...and so on...(c) stevie t
1996

...now dats some ingenious quality comical liquid dancin...takes 
some real skillz to come up with shit like that, especially on
the fly and to the beat...

only difference is michael, took it a li'l too far & went home & 
really ate too many PB&J sandwiches, so now he's too fat to dance
and has to resort to shit talkin...

don't be a hater...lose the weight...and be the positive lean mean 
ravin machine again!!

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In a message dated 2/6/0 5:25:35 PM, jerry wrote:

<<Just because you're wack doesn't mean you need to 
mock me...>>

huh are you talkin to michael or me?...if you were refering
to mw, i wasn't mockin you!...i was serious, i really do
think they should free wen ho lee & had posted about it
previously...he's just another minority being used as a
political scapegoat...he like me is literally paying for
the sins of others...

http://cbsnews.cbs.com/now/story/0,1597,156124-412,00.shtml 


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In a message dated 2/6/0 5:36:45 PM, thee princess applesauce wrote:

<<> im back and i hate you

> laura>>

lol, put cheese in the chalupa...or else...

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as always.. this is one of the only reasons i stay on the list to read his 
posts.

Gabe


michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< no need for me to comment further...once again the kid entropy comes 
 through and sums it all up perfectly in one fell post.  big up. >>

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i can die a happy woman now!! i got to hear hard love on a big system!

/j

ps vibert and cole were pretty tight as well, true musicians. i missed
half their set but what i heard was fairly mellow, and appropriately bass
heavy. paradinas played a few older songs, then a buncha tracks off royal
astronomy, and then hard love (a single released as kid spatula, split
with jega's unity gain). that's when i started jumping up and down like a
fool and yelled at dica that he had to get this song. i think i freaked
out some of the idm wankers that were too busy standing around stroking
their....chins to get into the music but hey, it was a great show. ;P


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Jay is back in Dayton 
Just wanted to say was up to every one....

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for anyone who is interested, we need more people asap!  this
is an event not to be missed!

-steve

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    we are in search of serious people
    only who would be interested in a
    bus trip from pittsburgh with a stop
    in cleveland to chicago for live on
    the decks III.

    the bus will leave pittsburgh saturday
    morning, have about an hour stop in
    cleveland in the morning as well and
    arrive in chicago 10pm saturday. the
    bus is scheduled to leave chicago after
    the party, and get back into pittsburgh
    in the evening after stopping in cleveland
    for the drop off.

    the cost would be $80 if we fill the
    bus [or close to that], as of now, we
    need up to another 25 people to join
    us on february 26th and 27th.

    of the $80 cost, $30 goes to the ticket
    and the additional $50 towards the
    chartered bus.

    i will need all $80 by the 14th.

    please reply to jenn@futureconsortium.com
    only if you are serious and interested in
    joining us.

    live on the decks III info:
    Boogie Tribe presents

    "Live On The Decks III"

    Chicago, IL

    Saturday February 26th

    With Exclusive Worldwide Performances By:

    -+8 Room
    Richie Hawtin     Decks, Efx & 909 3 1/2 hour set
    John Acquaviva     Definitive Records , 2 1/2 Hour Set

    Live Room
    Hardfloor Live   Germany
    Farley "Jackmaster" Funk    Chicago
    Paul Johnson & Paul Anthony  Four Turntables    Chicago
    Nigel Richards                     Philadelphia
    Christopher Lawrence: Moonshine CD Release Party     Los Angeles
    Micheal Myers                     Philadelphia
    Marcus Watkins & DJ Niko  Four Turntables         Chicago

    Drum "N" Bass Room
    Phantom 45 & Danny The Wildchild Four Turntables      Chicago
    3D                 Chicago
    Dieselboy & MC Dub Squared   Philadelphia
    RP Smack     Chicago
    Fonz De La Mota   Chicago
    
    Saturday February 26th: "Live On The Decks III"
    For Information, Hotels, Directions, and everything else
    www.boogietribe.com
    boogietribe@hotmail.com
    773-509-5050



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In a message dated 2/5/00 5:37:35 PM Central Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:

<< "Mad Lion, hold tight....."
 Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or Original?  I can C
 how peoples with weaker skills would try to battle at a "rave", but
 won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you look at the
 anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is meant to replace
 PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no knowledge of self, or no
 love for self, fighting and killing each other.  There for the
 battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.  I understand U
 was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy wanted to battle, he
 should wait for the appropriate venue.  However, mc battling is not
 intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and sport, if done
 responsibly that is.  Peace.  >>

He was caucasian, but I don't neccessarily think thats the point in the whole 
matter.  

I understand its use as a device to replace physical violence... but violence 
is violence... fuck replacing it with the same entity... cancel it out 
completely.  Intent and motive are 9 tenths of the law.  just my opinion.  
what was that "He who sins in his heart..." something like that.

As for battling being 'evil'.  It all depends on what you ultimate goal is.  
If you enter in this arena trying to become the proverbial king and rule... 
then get ready for battles by the dozen.  If you are a 'TEACHER' which I 
regardless how little or how much schooling I have I try to classify myself 
as... I feel bullshit like this gets in the way of the real battle I'm trying 
to fight... that is mental slavery.   My caucasian ass has jumped in a good 
amount of ciphers filled with the united colors of benneton.  and its pretty 
damned interesting that every hip hop cipher I've been in has usually had 
less of a focus on 'battling' and more of a focus on 'relating'  I'm sure if 
any one of the mc's walked in there talking shit for the sake of being the 
'shit,' he would leave the cipher... alone... and pretty much battling and 
losing the war.  I've met good people, learned good things, and had alot of 
fun in ciphers.  But a cipher is a circle and remains one for a good half 
hour or more if the mc's are of the right calibur.  Its where crews form.  A 
support group for people who can't shut up like myself.

There is only one battle and that battle is within the mind.  I battle myself 
everyday.  And if someone wants to 'STOP' me from doing what I do... it takes 
more than a fucking few lines... seriously.  Those who want to 'battle' can 
lift up there hands... turn their thoughts into device and face the holy 
wrath of god... Cos I ain't here to get laid, get paid, and get stupid... KRS 
on a later album stated a good point... Mc's that want to battle established 
due paying teachers to break a piece of the hard work.  They haven't even 
earned the right to stand next to him.  And he knows that, cos when an mc 
steps to the plate like that... the established mc loses a portion of the 
blood that he used to get to where he was.  

These cats want spotlight... let them display their wares in the proper 
setting... and instead of picking fights... maybe they should 'share' their 
concepts with another mc who might be able to help them establish 
themselves... cos in the end... you act shitty to me... I return the favor... 
I battle karmically... invisibly... and make damn sure those egos never creep 
out the cellar.  won the battle lost the war.

in the case of the sole vs. el p... el p's true colors shine through.   and 
why sole has done way more for me as a listener than el p's ultimate fighting 
championship tactics.

as for a mental rite of passage... I'm 26 as of february 15th, 2000... I've 
seen people die, seen people multiply, lost money, found money, seen blood, 
shed blood... lord knows.  I've almost died, almost lived, almost left, 
almost came...  the only opponent  I have time to fight... is God himself.  
And thats my official sparring partner.

I understand the concept, believe me... lived the concept of battling... 

let other people kill each other... I'm trying to express life you know.  

thats the only point i'm saying.  real heads already know who's winning and 
who's losing.  Let nothing stand in the way of positivity.  Its time for next 
level shit... 
 
To sum it all up... people need to lighten the fuck up and hug each other.

entro
respect.  inshallah.

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the moral of this story is that if you nag atomly enough, he might just do
what you want him to.

yes that's right, the quote list is up. rather than sending an attachment
to the list and getting bitched at, i put it online, in two formats
nonetheless.

to view: http://www.pubnix.org/~jes/quotes.html
to download: http://www.pubnix.org/~jes/quotes.doc

there. now there is proof of how pathetic we are. oh, joy!

/j


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Hmm...wasn't it only a few months ago you declared yourself to be hip-hop
and not a "raver"?  Now you flip-flop more than Al Gore.  Not that it's a
bad thing, I'm sure you have your reasons, so I'd like to hear them.  I
don't understand why one punk ass trying to catch some attention is
leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth about hip-hop.  As for you
saying that most ciphers you've been part of are about relating and not
battling...that's the whole point of a cipher.  No ciphers I've ever been
in or witnessed have ever had people dissing on each other, that's what
battles are for.  They have two completely different purposes.  So, after
all has been said and done, what's your point?  I don't get what you're
trying to say.  Maybe it does stand for misconception in this case.
An aspiring Porn Theater Usher,
Jerry

_______________________________________________________________________________
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/5/00 5:37:35 PM Central Standard Time, 
> allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:
> 
> << "Mad Lion, hold tight....."
>  Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or Original?  I can C
>  how peoples with weaker skills would try to battle at a "rave", but
>  won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you look at the
>  anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is meant to replace
>  PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no knowledge of self, or no
>  love for self, fighting and killing each other.  There for the
>  battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.  I understand U
>  was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy wanted to battle, he
>  should wait for the appropriate venue.  However, mc battling is not
>  intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and sport, if done
>  responsibly that is.  Peace.  >>
> 
> He was caucasian, but I don't neccessarily think thats the point in the whole 
> matter.  
> 
> I understand its use as a device to replace physical violence... but violence 
> is violence... fuck replacing it with the same entity... cancel it out 
> completely.  Intent and motive are 9 tenths of the law.  just my opinion.  
> what was that "He who sins in his heart..." something like that.
> 
> As for battling being 'evil'.  It all depends on what you ultimate goal is.  
> If you enter in this arena trying to become the proverbial king and rule... 
> then get ready for battles by the dozen.  If you are a 'TEACHER' which I 
> regardless how little or how much schooling I have I try to classify myself 
> as... I feel bullshit like this gets in the way of the real battle I'm trying 
> to fight... that is mental slavery.   My caucasian ass has jumped in a good 
> amount of ciphers filled with the united colors of benneton.  and its pretty 
> damned interesting that every hip hop cipher I've been in has usually had 
> less of a focus on 'battling' and more of a focus on 'relating'  I'm sure if 
> any one of the mc's walked in there talking shit for the sake of being the 
> 'shit,' he would leave the cipher... alone... and pretty much battling and 
> losing the war.  I've met good people, learned good things, and had alot of 
> fun in ciphers.  But a cipher is a circle and remains one for a good half 
> hour or more if the mc's are of the right calibur.  Its where crews form.  A 
> support group for people who can't shut up like myself.
> 
> There is only one battle and that battle is within the mind.  I battle myself 
> everyday.  And if someone wants to 'STOP' me from doing what I do... it takes 
> more than a fucking few lines... seriously.  Those who want to 'battle' can 
> lift up there hands... turn their thoughts into device and face the holy 
> wrath of god... Cos I ain't here to get laid, get paid, and get stupid... KRS 
> on a later album stated a good point... Mc's that want to battle established 
> due paying teachers to break a piece of the hard work.  They haven't even 
> earned the right to stand next to him.  And he knows that, cos when an mc 
> steps to the plate like that... the established mc loses a portion of the 
> blood that he used to get to where he was.  
> 
> These cats want spotlight... let them display their wares in the proper 
> setting... and instead of picking fights... maybe they should 'share' their 
> concepts with another mc who might be able to help them establish 
> themselves... cos in the end... you act shitty to me... I return the favor... 
> I battle karmically... invisibly... and make damn sure those egos never creep 
> out the cellar.  won the battle lost the war.
> 
> in the case of the sole vs. el p... el p's true colors shine through.   and 
> why sole has done way more for me as a listener than el p's ultimate fighting 
> championship tactics.
> 
> as for a mental rite of passage... I'm 26 as of february 15th, 2000... I've 
> seen people die, seen people multiply, lost money, found money, seen blood, 
> shed blood... lord knows.  I've almost died, almost lived, almost left, 
> almost came...  the only opponent  I have time to fight... is God himself.  
> And thats my official sparring partner.
> 
> I understand the concept, believe me... lived the concept of battling... 
> 
> let other people kill each other... I'm trying to express life you know.  
> 
> thats the only point i'm saying.  real heads already know who's winning and 
> who's losing.  Let nothing stand in the way of positivity.  Its time for next 
> level shit... 
>  
> To sum it all up... people need to lighten the fuck up and hug each other.
> 
> entro
> respect.  inshallah.
> 
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<karen> I want all the Midwest dick!!! [Date: 2 Dec 1999]

LOL    YEOW

----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> the moral of this story is that if you nag atomly enough, he might just do
> what you want him to.
>
> yes that's right, the quote list is up. rather than sending an attachment
> to the list and getting bitched at, i put it online, in two formats
> nonetheless.
>
> to view: http://www.pubnix.org/~jes/quotes.html
> to download: http://www.pubnix.org/~jes/quotes.doc
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> there. now there is proof of how pathetic we are. oh, joy!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 06 22:17:43 2000
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i took the time to check out radiate in columbus...to make the point short,
the party was excellent...i give the venue a b+...it was exceptionally nice
and mostly pleasant throughout, but the alternate rooms could have (and
should have) been bigger, the doorway in was crowded all night (looked like
it kept the lines long) and my fiancee said the bathrooms and portapotties
were out of tp all night...it was comfortable though and i hope nobody
fucked it up...it deserves to be used again...titonton's live pa fucking
rocked it..ive always heard about it, but it was always interesting and at
some points stunningly wonderful...rob hood was solid and for the most part
entertaining...he never seemed to blow the roof off at any point but he kept
the floor moving and seemed to interject doses of energy whenever things
seemed to sag a bit...freaky flow and his brand of tech-step/ragga lite
didnt really do it for me, but i thought mc flipside was excellent...ive
never had the real mc experience live and i dont know where flipside places
worldwide but he kept the crowd hyped, went freestyle often, he was clear,
eloquent, kept up with the beat  and wasnt jabbering the same thing over and
over...trevor lamont and tag team partner samm-e were excellent in the
packed side room...im not sure how this was structured as the room seemed to
be set up by another promoter, but they should have been on the main
stage...ive seen them both play together and separately for almost 5-6 years
now, and they are still getting better every time i see them...im not saying
the main room wasnt set up well because it was, but these guys deserve prime
time and i can only imagine the devastation to the room if they were in
there banging it...none the less, we had a great time (a rarity nowadays it
seems)...big ups to malfunction for a: the dope space, and b: for putting
quality techno artists in prime-time slots and c: for not booking the same
boring shit...like brian from sphere was saying, im tired of seeing the same
old shit too...theres so many choices to make for top-shelf and local talent
in most areas nowadays that theres no excuse for the same tired lineups and
djs in an area more than once per year...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@visto.com
fon: (513) 861-6760
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Peace.  Why fight me (God)?  Otherwise "good teaching....."  Peace Son.


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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/5/00 5:37:35 PM Central Standard Time, 
> allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:
> 
> << "Mad Lion, hold tight....."
>  Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or Original?  I can C
>  how peoples with weaker skills would try to battle at a "rave", but
>  won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you look at the
>  anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is meant to replace
>  PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no knowledge of self, or no
>  love for self, fighting and killing each other.  There for the
>  battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.  I understand U
>  was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy wanted to battle, he
>  should wait for the appropriate venue.  However, mc battling is not
>  intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and sport, if done
>  responsibly that is.  Peace.  >>
> 
> He was caucasian, but I don't neccessarily think thats the point in the whole 
> matter.  
> 
> I understand its use as a device to replace physical violence... but violence 
> is violence... fuck replacing it with the same entity... cancel it out 
> completely.  Intent and motive are 9 tenths of the law.  just my opinion.  
> what was that "He who sins in his heart..." something like that.
> 
> As for battling being 'evil'.  It all depends on what you ultimate goal is.  
> If you enter in this arena trying to become the proverbial king and rule... 
> then get ready for battles by the dozen.  If you are a 'TEACHER' which I 
> regardless how little or how much schooling I have I try to classify myself 
> as... I feel bullshit like this gets in the way of the real battle I'm trying 
> to fight... that is mental slavery.   My caucasian ass has jumped in a good 
> amount of ciphers filled with the united colors of benneton.  and its pretty 
> damned interesting that every hip hop cipher I've been in has usually had 
> less of a focus on 'battling' and more of a focus on 'relating'  I'm sure if 
> any one of the mc's walked in there talking shit for the sake of being the 
> 'shit,' he would leave the cipher... alone... and pretty much battling and 
> losing the war.  I've met good people, learned good things, and had alot of 
> fun in ciphers.  But a cipher is a circle and remains one for a good half 
> hour or more if the mc's are of the right calibur.  Its where crews form.  A 
> support group for people who can't shut up like myself.
> 
> There is only one battle and that battle is within the mind.  I battle myself 
> everyday.  And if someone wants to 'STOP' me from doing what I do... it takes 
> more than a fucking few lines... seriously.  Those who want to 'battle' can 
> lift up there hands... turn their thoughts into device and face the holy 
> wrath of god... Cos I ain't here to get laid, get paid, and get stupid... KRS 
> on a later album stated a good point... Mc's that want to battle established 
> due paying teachers to break a piece of the hard work.  They haven't even 
> earned the right to stand next to him.  And he knows that, cos when an mc 
> steps to the plate like that... the established mc loses a portion of the 
> blood that he used to get to where he was.  
> 
> These cats want spotlight... let them display their wares in the proper 
> setting... and instead of picking fights... maybe they should 'share' their 
> concepts with another mc who might be able to help them establish 
> themselves... cos in the end... you act shitty to me... I return the favor... 
> I battle karmically... invisibly... and make damn sure those egos never creep 
> out the cellar.  won the battle lost the war.
> 
> in the case of the sole vs. el p... el p's true colors shine through.   and 
> why sole has done way more for me as a listener than el p's ultimate fighting 
> championship tactics.
> 
> as for a mental rite of passage... I'm 26 as of february 15th, 2000... I've 
> seen people die, seen people multiply, lost money, found money, seen blood, 
> shed blood... lord knows.  I've almost died, almost lived, almost left, 
> almost came...  the only opponent  I have time to fight... is God himself.  
> And thats my official sparring partner.
> 
> I understand the concept, believe me... lived the concept of battling... 
> 
> let other people kill each other... I'm trying to express life you know.  
> 
> thats the only point i'm saying.  real heads already know who's winning and 
> who's losing.  Let nothing stand in the way of positivity.  Its time for next 
> level shit... 
>  
> To sum it all up... people need to lighten the fuck up and hug each other.
> 
> entro
> respect.  inshallah.
> 


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In a message dated 2/6/00 4:50:11 PM Central Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:

<< Peace.  Why fight me (God)?  Otherwise "good teaching....."  Peace Son. >>

the concept of fighting God as the 'ultimate particle,' highest existance, or 
transcendance... thats human nature... being the imperfect, semiconscious 
being that I am... I ain't gonna say that I get along with my 'spirituality' 
everyday of the week.  I question it alot to define it and its boundaries.  
Thats what I mean by fighting God.  plus... it makes me seriously aware of my 
mortality/immortality.

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Peace, this is Divine Ruler Equality Allah.
The key is not fighting Us, but Knowledging Us.  That means look listen
observe and respect the abilities and resources that WE give to our
creations and manufacturings.  We are not a mystery god.  Peace.


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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/6/00 4:50:11 PM Central Standard Time, 
> allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:
> 
> << Peace.  Why fight me (God)?  Otherwise "good teaching....."  Peace Son. >>
> 
> the concept of fighting God as the 'ultimate particle,' highest existance, or 
> transcendance... thats human nature... being the imperfect, semiconscious 
> being that I am... I ain't gonna say that I get along with my 'spirituality' 
> everyday of the week.  I question it alot to define it and its boundaries.  
> Thats what I mean by fighting God.  plus... it makes me seriously aware of my 
> mortality/immortality.
> 
> entro
> 


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michael should of played *gnarl*
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In a message dated 2/6/00 10:18:09 PM !!!First Boot!!!, djoracle@fuse.net 
writes:

<< i took the time to check out radiate in columbus...to make the point short,
 the party was excellent...i give the venue a b+...it was exceptionally nice
 and mostly pleasant throughout, but the alternate rooms could have (and
 should have) been bigger, the doorway in was crowded all night (looked like
 it kept the lines long) and my fiancee said the bathrooms and portapotties
 were out of tp all night...it was comfortable though and i hope nobody
 fucked it up...it deserves to be used again...titonton's live pa fucking
 rocked it..ive always heard about it, but it was always interesting and at
 some points stunningly wonderful...rob hood was solid and for the most part
 entertaining...he never seemed to blow the roof off at any point but he kept
 the floor moving and seemed to interject doses of energy whenever things
 seemed to sag a bit...freaky flow and his brand of tech-step/ragga lite
 didnt really do it for me, but i thought mc flipside was excellent...ive
 never had the real mc experience live and i dont know where flipside places
 worldwide but he kept the crowd hyped, went freestyle often, he was clear,
 eloquent, kept up with the beat  and wasnt jabbering the same thing over and
 over...trevor lamont and tag team partner samm-e were excellent in the
 packed side room...im not sure how this was structured as the room seemed to
 be set up by another promoter, but they should have been on the main
 stage...ive seen them both play together and separately for almost 5-6 years
 now, and they are still getting better every time i see them...im not saying
 the main room wasnt set up well because it was, but these guys deserve prime
 time and i can only imagine the devastation to the room if they were in
 there banging it...none the less, we had a great time (a rarity nowadays it
 seems)...big ups to malfunction for a: the dope space, and b: for putting
 quality techno artists in prime-time slots and c: for not booking the same
 boring shit...like brian from sphere was saying, im tired of seeing the same
 old shit too...theres so many choices to make for top-shelf and local talent
 in most areas nowadays that theres no excuse for the same tired lineups and
 djs in an area more than once per year...
 
 dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
 940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
 techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@visto.com
 fon: (513) 861-6760
 new website: http://zap.to/djoracle >>




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 00:52:33 2000
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thats right folks....

after a bit of a hiatus...  KYND returns to the net-air waves tonight
for yet another evening of entertaining your sorry ass!  thats right...
yer stuck at home... nuthin better to do.... yer still not sure what in
the hell was in that pill you took last night.  Forget your worries,
slip on a pair of headphones and check out the return of Cracked Out
Sunday.

tonite... from 11PM - 2AM CST tune those Real Players to
pnm://www.0wned.org/ihob.ra

featuring:

.com
international house of boogie

Lee
international house of boogie

dlux
not-so-massive massive

as always... we'll be irc chatting in #mw.raves and #mw-raves  stop in
and say hi.  We'll also be taking calls tonite during the show. 
WOOHOO!!!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 01:14:07 2000
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Hey people...for those of you who are bored and have
nothing to do, check out my new set on my site. Point
your browsers to www.djtsar.com, then click on Sets
and Real Audio...the new set is #5 =) It came out
sorta darker and harder than usual so hope you like it
=) As always, feedback is greatly appreciated.

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In a message dated 2/6/00 3:33:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
jaustria@students.depaul.edu writes:

<< Hmm...wasn't it only a few months ago you declared yourself to be hip-hop
 and not a "raver"?  Now you flip-flop more than Al Gore.  Not that it's a
 bad thing, I'm sure you have your reasons, so I'd like to hear them. >>

i think i just gave the reasoning...  every six months... my opinion changes 
due to experience.... the hip hop scene over the past six months has really 
been giving me the gout.  I don't have fun in the hip hop scene at all.  I 
don't like the attitude.  One event (the event I had mentioned in particular) 
had changed my faith in how things could be in the rave scene.  Identity is a 
tricky thing, evolution being the process... and anyways I ain't running for 
a mother fucking political office.  I'm about the hip hop aesthetic of 
production... circa 86'... this whole bullshit about the four pillars and all 
that crap... and all the ideology all these pseudo underground magazines are 
throwing in my face... I'm not with.   In fact, the more and more I 'think' 
and evolve as a person... the more I'm sick of all organized shit.  Fuck it 
all man... fuck it all.   I liken it to this... I try living my life one 
way... and if it 'falls to disorder' I throw it away and start anew... thus 
is the nature of my entropy.  six months from now who fucking knows...  and 
by the way fuck al gore.

<< I don't understand why one punk ass trying to catch some attention is
leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth about hip-hop. >>

its a symptom of an ever growing problem in the last six months.  You want a 
list of fucking examples... look on the racks of your local hip hop store.  
Everything is in stasis again.  stagnant egoist shit is fucking boring...  
bravado gets boring.... that incident is the fucking pinnacle of idiocy that 
TYPIFIES what i've been seeing as of late.

<< As for you saying that most ciphers you've been part of are about relating 
and not
battling...that's the whole point of a cipher.  No ciphers I've ever been
in or witnessed have ever had people dissing on each other, that's what
battles are for.  They have two completely different purposes.  So, after
all has been said and done, what's your point?  >>

ciphers of recent may have been about relating... round robin battling is not 
a new concept tho... fuck stand in a triangle for all i care.   Most of the 
ciphers i had been in had a definate battle tone to the whole thing, standing 
around at the back of a loft with people you didn't know... throwing out 
lines that directly insulting and attacked the lines that came out of the 
previous mc's mouth... and then someone jumping in and following suit.  Kind 
of a demonstration in xenophobia.  When I first started battle at 16... the 
setup was six or seven people who didn't know each other... standing around 
in a fucking circle... kicking shit back and forth at each other.  if that is 
old school... fine and fucking dandy.  but you had your break circle... and 
somewhere off at the back of the venue you had your little fight club.  maybe 
its a sign of me getting old... believe me i know the nuevo version enhanced 
by the 'passing of the blunt' syndrome.  I didn't smoke pot until I was 21.  
back when I was sixteen I knew what it was... but never saw it at jams.  the 
point of the circle/cipher... was a group of people gathering around and 
proving themselves... and it got nasty. 
my second point is i guess... what generation of the word cipher are you 
referring to?

entro

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Peace, this is Divine Ruler Equality Allah.  I am in the Nation of Gods
and Earths, which is associated, but not the same, as the muslims of the
Nation of Islam (although we have peaceful relations).  When we use the
term "Cipher" we are refering to a principle of Supreme Mathematics
dealing with a person, place, or thing, complete in itself, and that has
no beginning nor ending in form.  The word cipher, which in english means
"zero", or "circle", is from the arabic/aramaic langauges, and was
developed late in Arabia as a place holder for the concept of
"nothing" but in reality, on deeper level, is the COMPLETION, of a cycle
of counting withing arithmetic, when expressing powers of numbers.  So in
Supreme Mathematics, we use it to illustrate the Completeness of our
Universal Laws.  Within hip-hop, people have taken this word and
"re-approriated" it to freestyle "ciphers".  When Gods and Earths for
ciphers, its not just to "freestyle" or compete against each other.  Its
to Build on Civilization and Destroy devilishment.  So I
understand your frustration with the "re" or rather "mis-approriation" of
Cipher.  A cipher has no beginning nor ending as a geometrical shape, and
this shape is supposed to mentally illustrate the continuity of Allah
(My) mathematical laws in bringing about and expanding life.  Although I
don't know your particular hip-hop palette, I would suggest digesting some
Self Scientific, Medina Green, J-Live, Solar Panel, Micranots, etc. if you
are missing some old-fashion RESPECTFUL self-esteem, comedy, and feel good
hip-hop.  Peace.

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/6/00 3:33:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
> jaustria@students.depaul.edu writes:
> 
> << Hmm...wasn't it only a few months ago you declared yourself to be hip-hop
>  and not a "raver"?  Now you flip-flop more than Al Gore.  Not that it's a
>  bad thing, I'm sure you have your reasons, so I'd like to hear them. >>
> 
> i think i just gave the reasoning...  every six months... my opinion changes 
> due to experience.... the hip hop scene over the past six months has really 
> been giving me the gout.  I don't have fun in the hip hop scene at all.  I 
> don't like the attitude.  One event (the event I had mentioned in particular) 
> had changed my faith in how things could be in the rave scene.  Identity is a 
> tricky thing, evolution being the process... and anyways I ain't running for 
> a mother fucking political office.  I'm about the hip hop aesthetic of 
> production... circa 86'... this whole bullshit about the four pillars and all 
> that crap... and all the ideology all these pseudo underground magazines are 
> throwing in my face... I'm not with.   In fact, the more and more I 'think' 
> and evolve as a person... the more I'm sick of all organized shit.  Fuck it 
> all man... fuck it all.   I liken it to this... I try living my life one 
> way... and if it 'falls to disorder' I throw it away and start anew... thus 
> is the nature of my entropy.  six months from now who fucking knows...  and 
> by the way fuck al gore.
> 
> << I don't understand why one punk ass trying to catch some attention is
> leaving you with a bad taste in your mouth about hip-hop. >>
> 
> its a symptom of an ever growing problem in the last six months.  You want a 
> list of fucking examples... look on the racks of your local hip hop store.  
> Everything is in stasis again.  stagnant egoist shit is fucking boring...  
> bravado gets boring.... that incident is the fucking pinnacle of idiocy that 
> TYPIFIES what i've been seeing as of late.
> 
> << As for you saying that most ciphers you've been part of are about relating 
> and not
> battling...that's the whole point of a cipher.  No ciphers I've ever been
> in or witnessed have ever had people dissing on each other, that's what
> battles are for.  They have two completely different purposes.  So, after
> all has been said and done, what's your point?  >>
> 
> ciphers of recent may have been about relating... round robin battling is not 
> a new concept tho... fuck stand in a triangle for all i care.   Most of the 
> ciphers i had been in had a definate battle tone to the whole thing, standing 
> around at the back of a loft with people you didn't know... throwing out 
> lines that directly insulting and attacked the lines that came out of the 
> previous mc's mouth... and then someone jumping in and following suit.  Kind 
> of a demonstration in xenophobia.  When I first started battle at 16... the 
> setup was six or seven people who didn't know each other... standing around 
> in a fucking circle... kicking shit back and forth at each other.  if that is 
> old school... fine and fucking dandy.  but you had your break circle... and 
> somewhere off at the back of the venue you had your little fight club.  maybe 
> its a sign of me getting old... believe me i know the nuevo version enhanced 
> by the 'passing of the blunt' syndrome.  I didn't smoke pot until I was 21.  
> back when I was sixteen I knew what it was... but never saw it at jams.  the 
> point of the circle/cipher... was a group of people gathering around and 
> proving themselves... and it got nasty. 
> my second point is i guess... what generation of the word cipher are you 
> referring to?
> 
> entro
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You people are WEIRD.


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In a message dated 2/6/00 5:38:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu writes:

<< The word cipher, which in english means
 "zero", or "circle", is from the arabic/aramaic langauges, and was
 developed late in Arabia as a place holder for the concept of
 "nothing" but in reality, on deeper level, is the COMPLETION, of a cycle
 of counting withing arithmetic, when expressing powers of numbers.  So in
 Supreme Mathematics, we use it to illustrate the Completeness of our
 Universal Laws.   >>

celestine, while i was at half price book store today selling some of my
comic books for rent $...i flipped through a book entitled: THE BIBLICAL
CODES by Michael Drosnin...has anybody read this book?...definitly
a must read for anyone interested in biblical research and armageddon
prophecy such as myself...

much like the movie PI, the book is based on the cracking of the bible
code through mathematics and computer programs utilizing the original
untranslated version of the Bible on the Dead Sea Scrolls...

the part that i was interested in was Armageddon...the codes ironically,
gave two years: 2000 and 2006...i knew that myself and key members of 
the family of light worked extensively to prevent the 2000 date from igniting.
...however, i know that the battle has taken its toll on all of us (especially
on my end) and the 2006 date may be truly unavoidable...the beast is
stronger than ever...and as the final test of faith, i find it more and more
difficult to hold the fort...

the book further reveals that the site of the initial nuclear attack shall be
Jerusalem...the key figure involved in that attack: Hatez Asad from Syria
...and the city that final battle shall take place?...Mogog, which actually
means "Armageddon" in arabic i believe...

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"Kevin M. Ryan" wrote:

> You people are WEIRD.

.DRIEW era elpoep uoY



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 03:18:39 2000
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> the part that i was interested in was Armageddon...the codes ironically,
> gave two years: 2000 and 2006...i knew that myself and key members of
> the family of light worked extensively to prevent the 2000 date from igniting.
> ...however, i know that the battle has taken its toll on all of us (especially
> on my end) and the 2006 date may be truly unavoidable...the beast is
> stronger than ever...and as the final test of faith, i find it more and more
> difficult to hold the fort...

Hmm... either you really do think you're Jesus or you're doing a better
job trolling this list than 'The DJ' ever did...  :)

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Hi everyone, my name is Brett and I'm from Chicago (Lincoln Park).  I used 
to be on this list a long time ago so I thought it would be appropriate to 
reintroduce myself.  I'm 19, a Robinson's Ribs employee, and a DePaul 
student.  I like a lot of different kinds of music ranging from most types 
of House to Minimal to more techy stuff.  Other than that I enjoy lifting 
weights, producing some of my own tracks, and going out to have a brew when 
I'm not working.  Anyways I was just curious if anyone in the Chi area was 
planning any trips to different locales for parties...I'd like to check it 
out.  No, I don't drive but I got money, some mixtapes/cds, and a halfway 
decent sense of humor.  If anyone is planning a trip, or just wants to say 
whats up, drop me a line at shizzit45@hotmail.com


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knowledge born wisdom = understanding =) 1,2,3.

gotcha on that.

look what they did to the word 'yo' over the years.

as for the hip hop i'm into... Scaramanga, old marley marl shit, lord digga, UMC's, Anticon and Dose, Big Jus, Breeze, heroine and bms (and yes el p too.) and alot of other stuff... Not exactly all feel good myself... I just like honestly disallusioned stuff.  I mean I love medina green and j5 and all that... just doesn't fit my moodiness all the time.

as for 'building' or 'destroying' in the 'cipher' i.e. friendly freestyle circles or competitive circles... end story:  i guess its your past experience in 'em... I never had alot of friends who rhymed at all.  so when I jumped into circles it was dry and pretty much filled with people who didn't know each other.  Maybe like I said, that encourages some xenophobic tendencies... but I get really tired, really quick of the prototypical "acting hhaaaaard" stuff.  as Godfather Don points out "I hate it when mc's get me in this mode..."

and there are alot of mc's that want to get people in that mode... fact of life... everyone wants to be on top... and squabble for little pieces of cheese.

to think that all circles-battles, 'ciphers, or whatever you want to call em... are happy little excursions with no animosity... I dunno... I've never seen that before... unless its with someone I know and we don't stand in a circle... we just sit on a couch and just talk shit off in the corner somewhere away from people.

which getting back to the original thread...

thats what break circles should be about too.  somewhere off in the corner in an unassuming manner.

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anyone have any info on this or planz on going?
-nicci
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<<it's just like martial arts (from which breakdancing was
inspired from>>

ehh hemm...but i don't think its inspired from martial arts...its from the 
african fighting dance called capoeria.   I don't know which area of africa 
but it is also very popular in the northeastern parts of brazil........it is 
as beautiful and eventful to watch and listen to the music as is 
breakdancing.....also certian steps and moves are of that was originated by 
capoeria.....


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1.Knock knock
2.who's there?
1.a ghost
2.A gho-
1.BOOO!

HAHAHA

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don't even make me tell the interrupting cow joke. don't go there. ;)

On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 ZombieRacr@aol.com wrote:

> 1.Knock knock
> 2.who's there?
> 1.a ghost
> 2.A gho-
> 1.BOOO!
> 
> HAHAHA
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but my joke is better than that one. It scares you and makes you laugh. Then 
you think about it some more and you see that it goes so much deeper than i 
am a ghost and BOOO! It goes so much further and i love this joke more than i 
love my newborn child. Heed this joke and it's underlying story of impending 
doom and the apocolypse. When has a joke been able to give us all this, and 
only demand a laugh? So ask not what you can do for this joke, ask what this 
joke can do for you.

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what's it mean to be the poor man's doris payer???

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000, jes wrote:

> 
> 
> the moral of this story is that if you nag atomly enough, he might just do
> what you want him to.
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> yes that's right, the quote list is up. rather than sending an attachment
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> there. now there is proof of how pathetic we are. oh, joy!
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"knock, knock"
"who's there?"
"interrupting cow"
"interrupt-"
"MOOOOO"

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In a message dated 2/7/2000 12:14:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dpayer@umich.edu writes:

<< what's it mean to be the poor man's doris payer??? >>
cuz everyone knows it takes too much money to be you....I mean hell, havin to 
buy clothes and the Tall and Barney Store all the time isn't cheap

I love you, You love m.........

shawne

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Why did the guy cross the road?
He heard the chicken was a slut!


Ahahhahah!!!

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like the subject line says...
hit me back please.

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Um, is Capoeria a MARTIAL ART????????????  Most martial arts in the
Continent of Asia (Africa and Asia are one continent) arise in the Nile
Valley initially.  For incite, look for kupigana ngumi.  Peace.


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On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 CASIELN@aol.com wrote:

> <<it's just like martial arts (from which breakdancing was
> inspired from>>
> 
> ehh hemm...but i don't think its inspired from martial arts...its from the 
> african fighting dance called capoeria.   I don't know which area of africa 
> but it is also very popular in the northeastern parts of brazil........it is 
> as beautiful and eventful to watch and listen to the music as is 
> breakdancing.....also certian steps and moves are of that was originated by 
> capoeria.....
> 
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Rather ISN'T CAPOERIA A MARTIAL ART (Fight = Martial, Dance = Art?)
That is what I meant. Peace.

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> 
> Um, is Capoeria a MARTIAL ART????????????  Most martial arts in the
> Continent of Asia (Africa and Asia are one continent) arise in the Nile
> Valley initially.  For incite, look for kupigana ngumi.  Peace.
> 
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> On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 CASIELN@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > <<it's just like martial arts (from which breakdancing was
> > inspired from>>
> > 
> > ehh hemm...but i don't think its inspired from martial arts...its from the 
> > african fighting dance called capoeria.   I don't know which area of africa 
> > but it is also very popular in the northeastern parts of brazil........it is 
> > as beautiful and eventful to watch and listen to the music as is 
> > breakdancing.....also certian steps and moves are of that was originated by 
> > capoeria.....
> > 
> > 
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In a message dated 2/7/0 4:33:31 AM, casiel wrote:

<<ehh hemm...but i don't think its inspired from martial arts...
its from the african fighting dance called capoeria. >>

incorrect, it really was old hop chop movies that inspired
breakdancing...i even have the interview of frosty freeze,
the co-founder of rock steady crew when he said it...it was
a form of fighting without fighting for gangs to peacefully
settle disputes...ask any brutha what "capoeria" is and the
most likely response will be: "huh"?...ask a brutha what the
original breaker cru was and they will give props to rock
steady crew...ask them who started rock steady and they
will say: frosty freeze, ken swift, and crazy legs...ask frosty
freeze who is the grandmaster...and he will say: bruce lee...
yes folks, it truly is the year of the dragon (officially started
this past weekend actually)....

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Yeah, that book is something all right.  I call it a big joke.  The fact is, 
the "biblical code" can be done with any book.  Just another weak attempt to 
explain the supernatural.

Can we all say "the scientific method"?

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I just got a review for my music that went like this...

"Unusual down-tempo tracks grow on you like a skin rash. Odd sound blips and 
bizarre vocals sit uncomfortably over sluggish, manipulated rhythms."

My music sounds diseased but it's catchy, I guess. Would you call that a good 
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There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
REAL.  Peace.


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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 SunoftheWu@aol.com wrote:

> Yeah, that book is something all right.  I call it a big joke.  The fact is, 
> the "biblical code" can be done with any book.  Just another weak attempt to 
> explain the supernatural.
> 
> Can we all say "the scientific method"?
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In a message dated 2/7/0 6:22:20 AM, sonofwu wrote:

<<Yeah, that book is something all right.  I call it a big joke.  
The fact is, the "biblical code" can be done with any book.  
Just another weak attempt to explain the supernatural.>>

uh, have you even read the book?

it's almost as lame as saying "wu tang sucks" without even
truly listening to any of their albums.

obviously, the author believed heavily in it, after spending
years of research and the time and effort into writing it into
a book.

in addition it is not like any other book, since it is based on
scientific, computer, mathematical, and biblical research.

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please reply to:  htek@execpc.com

>WANTED!!!!
>I'm looking for the following records;
>DJ ESP: The Earthworm Sings- Experimental Records.
>DJ ESP: Natural Glow- Experimental Records
>X-Crash (Adam-X?): Urban Bass (10 Minutes of Madness) Injection Records
>V.A.: Expand your Mind- Adam & Eve Records
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>the hip hop scene over the past six months has really
>been giving me the gout.

actually tim... that was me.  sorry about that.  i was just getting back at 
you for that bout of genital herpes you gave me 6 months back.


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Most definately I have read it.

I wouldn't make a comment about it publicly if I hadn't read it.

And I didn't say it was like any other book, I'm saying, that the same thing 
can be done with any other book, it doesn't have to be just the bible.

And mathematics and science can be used by religion to try and prove 
something, but that's just like saying that Jesus is supposed to return in 
the year 2000.  It's just not going to happen.  Don't attack me people, it's 
just my opinion based on the facts of science!  

www.aynrand.com

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>what's it mean to be the poor man's doris payer???

i think you know _exactly_ what it means.

and if you do, tell me.  :P

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There IS such thing as Supernatural...he rips it up in his Wake-Up show
battle against Juice...
Jerry

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:

> 
> There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> REAL.  Peace.
> 
> 
> Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
>                                                     / \
> 5% Network                                         L   L
> http://www.nge.org
> http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> 
>     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> 
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 SunoftheWu@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, that book is something all right.  I call it a big joke.  The fact is, 
> > the "biblical code" can be done with any book.  Just another weak attempt to 
> > explain the supernatural.
> > 
> > Can we all say "the scientific method"?
> > 
> > D.A.R.Y.L.
> > 
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>
>uh, i think you mean "crack" since "crank" is that MTV game on AOL.
>in addition i believe it's meth or crystal that makes you paranoid.
>crack makes you into a professional fiend or just flat out kills you

"crank" = low-grade crystal meth.
(also)
"crank" = the direct object in this sentence: "Stevie T can bite my crank!"

>(the number one profit product designed by the CIA/Caucasian
>Intelligence Agency to eliminate the minorities while making them-
>selves some tremendous cash flow)...

oh, you're right, my previous comment about you being paranoid must have 
been TOTALLY unfounded!



>the truth is because you've gained 65lbs (as you've already admitted)
>and can no longer dance anymore, because you were able to milk the
>poor just that much more so you can make yourself that much fatter or
>buy more records to spin, because you're too fat to dance now...

i can dance just fine, even if i do have a belly.  :P  and milking the poor 
has nothing to do with it, you moron.  i gained weight because i stopped 
blowing several bags of speed every week.  that tends to happen.

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Come On! I know about Super Nat from Gary.  I mean there is no phenomena
that is not natural, even "Supernatural".  Peace.

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:

> There IS such thing as Supernatural...he rips it up in his Wake-Up show
> battle against Juice...
> Jerry
> 
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> 
> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> 
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > 
> > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > REAL.  Peace.
> > 
> > 
> > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> > allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                     / \
> > 5% Network                                         L   L
> > http://www.nge.org
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > 
> >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> > ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > 
> > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 SunoftheWu@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Yeah, that book is something all right.  I call it a big joke.  The fact is, 
> > > the "biblical code" can be done with any book.  Just another weak attempt to 
> > > explain the supernatural.
> > > 
> > > Can we all say "the scientific method"?
> > > 
> > > D.A.R.Y.L.
> > > 
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At 01:04 AM 2/7/00 -0600, you wrote:
>There IS such thing as Supernatural...he rips it up in his Wake-Up show
>battle against Juice...

is the wake-up show syndicated?  is there a place i can listen to it in RA 
on the web?


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AM I THE ONLY ONE ON THIS LIST FROM BELOIT?????  BELOIT, WI THAT 
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good lord, if you are going to degrade yourself to the point of being a 
COVER BAND, why not at least cover a band that is worth covering.  grateful 
fucking dead, jesus christ don't get me fucking started.  the world would 
smell so much better if it were hippie-free...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 07:43:51 2000
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Michael, you're part of too many lists!  You posted to the wrong one...but
I agree, I'm not down with hippies...or cover bands, for that matter.
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> good lord, if you are going to degrade yourself to the point of being a 
> COVER BAND, why not at least cover a band that is worth covering.  grateful 
> fucking dead, jesus christ don't get me fucking started.  the world would 
> smell so much better if it were hippie-free...
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
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my bad!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 08:57:00 2000
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Jahzid Allah wrote:

> There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> REAL.  Peace.

Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
discussions, but I do find this interesting.  I have heard something
similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
Muslim of some sort) in the past.

Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
means...

Does this mean:

a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
other religions personify him/her/it)

or

b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)

or

c) Something totally different that I don't know...



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Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious person.  I am Allah.  Peace.


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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:

> Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > REAL.  Peace.
> 
> Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
> discussions, but I do find this interesting.  I have heard something
> similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
> Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> 
> Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
> in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
> means...
> 
> Does this mean:
> 
> a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
> an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
> other religions personify him/her/it)
> 
> or
> 
> b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
> synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
> a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
> could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
> interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
> 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
> the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
> that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)
> 
> or
> 
> c) Something totally different that I don't know...
> 
> 
> 
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>
>Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious person.  I am Allah.  Peace.

as long as you are allah, and stevie is jesus, i guess i'll go ahead and be 
odin!



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 13:20:53 2000
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What's up people, This is Paul Johnson. I'd like to make you an offer. Please 
take this seriously, for I'm curious to know the outcome. For the few who 
follow my carreer, I'd like to offer anyone who can show me that they have 
all of my records 58 in total $1,000 and I'll also pay for them plus a friend 
into the next 10 Chicago parties. I've been thinking about how much the lord 
has blessed me and I'd like to do the same for you. If you don't tend to 
participate in this, Please don't respond. I'd like to pay my friends who 
support me back. Thank you for your time and you have all week to do this. I 
really love you guys and appreciate all the things that you do for our lives 
as party people....Peace & Love......Paul J....

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WHAT'S UP PEOPLE.  i own a record label.  i would like to pay you $5,000 
for one good tune, and 7 crap filler tunes for us to release as a double 
pack.  good luck!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 13:44:32 2000
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UN-CALLED-FOR!!!


Michael, I really think that Paul here has made a VERY generous offer, which
HARDLY warrants this type of attack on his releases. I mean, can you name
another producer who has this many records out that would do this???  Or
even HALF the amount?????  I know *I* can't!!!


Besides, if thats how you feel about his records, blame the labels!!  Theyre
the ones who took the tracks to begin with, and marketed them they way THEY
chose to.

I love ya man, but lay off the guy for a minute!


derek.



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>WHAT'S UP PEOPLE.  i own a record label.  i would like to pay you $5,000
>for one good tune, and 7 crap filler tunes for us to release as a double
>pack.  good luck!
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
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blah, well yeah i guess i reacted kinda pissily (is that a word?) to what 
was a generous offer, but i guess i was very jaded by those records that 
were coming out in 96 full of crap tracks, but one tune that you had to buy 
the release for because it rocked.  plus i've been up all nite.  grr!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 14:21:31 2000
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What ever happened to Guns and Roses anyway?

Oh well, good morning from Faderwars.

Listening to that same old tape on the way to work...has it got you a little 
down...

Well then point your browser to www.faderwars.com and check out this weeks 
jungle mixes.  They will wake you up for sure! We have Kia and Xylok 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 14:39:32 2000
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Did anyone catch last night's AMP? I hear Richie
Hawtin was there along with my beloved John Digweed =)
I think all big trance and techno dj's are selling
out. Fuck them all, let's listen to polka.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 15:19:47 2000
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Yeah, I saw it... and I was gonna post right after about how the world
was coming to an end... but I went to bed instead - to sleep,
perchance to dream...

I don't know about the two artists actually being ON the show, but I
caught a bit of some Paul Van Dyk video (FuckTrance)... and tuned out.
A minute later, I was flipping back through and I caught the tail end
of Richie's Orange video.  If any of you went to Epok, or scammed
yourself a copy of the mini-CD distributed that night, it's the same
video.  The end is nigh...

It brings up an important discussion.  I won't deny Richie the chance
to make money on what he does.  I won't even deny him the chance to
make MILLIONS... the techno-faithful out there will agree with me when
I say the man deserves it - Consider Britney and Christina... making
bank and capitalizing on the schoolgirl lover in you.  And these girls
are probably rolling in the dough (coke n' hoes, coke n' hoes).  Even
though their music blows big balls.  What a girl wants is a
happycore dj... 'nuff said ;)

So on one level, it really doesn't anger me that Richie's on MTV.  It
was only AMP after all, and no one really watches that show.  But
consider this:  We are all part of something collectively larger than
ourselves, called RAVE.  To qoute Hemingway, who quoted/pimped John
Donne, "No man is an island entire of itself.  Every man is a piece of the
continent.  A part of the main.  Any man's death diminishes me, 
because I am involved in mankind.  And therefore never send to
know for whom the bell tolls.  It tolls for thee."

Now that I'm done impressing you all with my (pseudo) intelligence ;)
- let me explain.  Doesn't Richie (and Sasha, and PVD, and Daft Punk,
and you, and you, and YOU), as a part of this (gawd I hate this word)
SCENE have a responsibility to everyone else in it?  When you go to a
party and dose and dose until your central nervous system says 'ha!
... whatever buddy' and you collapse into a sweaty, drooling heap on
the floor can you really justify your actions within the realm of
personal responsibility?  Freedom of choice, sure.  But when your o.d.
leads to the party getting shut down, police crackdown on (so-called)
'RAVE' drugs in you area, the subsequent unavailability of that
night's venue, mom 'n dad outrage, yellow journalism, and a host of
other knee-jerk, concerned parent/society, brand fuck-off legislation,
aren't you hurting not only yourself, but everyone around you and the
scene as a whole?

Bringing this back to something relavent (say tangent?), doesn't
Richie have a responsibility to keep his fucking video to himself, to
the techno faithful, to the prescribed modes of distribution - the
parties, the mixtapes, the net, etc?  All these institutions serve one
purpose: to keep the music real, to keep it alive, to keep it from
falling into the wrong hands.  Consider it a weapon, a mode of change.
Mass distribution can lead to only one thing (besides lining pockets):
the dilution of our scene.  When Richie's on MTV, the net result is
more cracked-out, know-nothing ravers coming out to the warehouse next
weekend to roll face and sit on the dance floor.  I make a vast
generalization here... perhaps I'm neglecting the fact that maybe,
just maybe someone will watch that video and enjoy it for the music,
not just the form it represents (i.e. raving's cool!!! I bet we can
find drugs there!!!).  But that aside, doesn't Richie have a
responsibility to the rest of us, as a leader (as the messiah :), as
one on whom so much depends?

This post is getting long and pointless... I thank you for reading
this far and ask for your opinions.  To put it all into simpler terms,
was it always about the hedonism and self-gratification?  What ever
happened to a collective transcending the societal norm?  What ever
happened to giving the finger to this narco-fascist, capitalist
syndicate?  What ever happened to the kids?

one love,
greg

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:

-->Did anyone catch last night's AMP? I hear Richie
-->Hawtin was there along with my beloved John Digweed =)
-->I think all big trance and techno dj's are selling
-->out. Fuck them all, let's listen to polka.
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look for my new video on mtv next week, my collaboration with juvenile and 
lil wayne of the hot boyz.  it's called "da block is happy!"

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michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org> said:

>look for my new video on mtv next week, my collaboration with 
>juvenile and lil wayne of the hot boyz.  it's called "da block is 
>happy!"



Yeah!!  Juvenile rokks!  BLING BLING!!!

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Actually, I don't wanna start a long long discussion
about this, but I think that if Richie or anybody else
wants to have his videos up on MTV why the fuck not?
It doesn't change anything for us. More people will
hear that music, so what? Why do we have to keep it to
ourselves anyway? If the person who made a song, track
or whatever wants it to be seen/heard what right do we
have to hold 'em responsible for what they do?

As far as the whole commercialization issue, who
cares? I think it's no secret that the SCENE that we
consider ourselves a part of is no longer UNDERGROUND.
Hell just the fact alone that we use huge full color
fliers to advertise parties already makes them
commercial events. There's always some controversy
between what's right and what isn't when it comes to
exposing UNDERGROUND music of any sort to larger TV
and Radio stations, but what the hell are you gonna
do. I am sure in most cases (and I say MOST not ALL)
if you are offered this opportunity, you would take it
without even thinking about it.

As for Christina Aguilera and 98 Degrees and all those
idiots, I don't think we should be comparing them with
someone like Richie or Digweed. First of all, Hawtin,
Digweed, PVD or whoever else use their original
material that they have created using their talent and
knowledge. It doesn't take much talent (with all the
training they go through) to dance around and lip
sync. Secondly, those people are fucking puppets. They
appear that they make a lot of money and they swim in
it, but when it comes down to it, all their money is
usually taken by the people who promote them. In any
record deal, before singers get paid, all the cost is
subtracted from their salary, leaving them practically
with nothing. Which is why all those people are so
goddamn broke when their 6-month careers are over. 

Anyway, I think I will be featured on MTV's the Grind.
I will be tag teaming with DJ Skribble. Pussy trance
with cheesy scratching. Here we come America.

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In a message dated 2/7/0 7:17:04 AM, michael wrote:

<<has nothing to do with it, you moron.  i gained weight 
because i stopped blowing several bags of speed every week.  
that tends to happen.>>

uh, congrats on not blowin all yur $ on speed, i guess...

sheesh, michael, eventho you are currently quite annoying
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In a message dated 2/7/0 11:04:50 AM, michael wrote:

<<as long as you are allah, and stevie is jesus, i guess i'll go 
ahead and be odin!>>

um, jesus was the name of the first coming...he had already
passed on for our sins...

atleast you didn't declare yourself as "odie", i guess...

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>From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>Reply-To: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
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>Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>

Are we all Allah?

Or are you simply saying you got crazy skills on the 1's and 2's?

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> sheesh, michael, eventho you are currently quite annoying
> ...i really do think you should quit callin yourself out so
> much.

You are just as much, if not far more annoying than Michael on his worst
day. You contribute more garbage mail and shit talk to this list than ANYONE
else. Your mails have the uncanny ability to take what WAS a good mood and
make it shitty for me. I can be having a good day, check mw-raves and read 8
messages in a row from you that are just so unbelievably pathetic that it a)
makes me feel sorry for you and b) makes me angry that you actually think we
care.

You are seriously the prime example of what happens when you let negative
energy run your life. Despite the fact that you believe you have attained
some sort of religious enlightenment, I would have to say that you are one
of the most emotionally immature people that I've ever dealt with, on or
offline.

Anyway, do us a favor and end this thread.

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Yes Capoeria is a martial art, it originated out of
brazil, but has its roots in africa and asia, just
because it is not directly from africa or asia, does
not mean that it is not a martial art.

--- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> 
> Um, is Capoeria a MARTIAL ART????????????  Most
> martial arts in the
> Continent of Asia (Africa and Asia are one
> continent) arise in the Nile
> Valley initially.  For incite, look for kupigana
> ngumi.  Peace.
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> On Sun, 6 Feb 2000 CASIELN@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > <<it's just like martial arts (from which
> breakdancing was
> > inspired from>>
> > 
> > ehh hemm...but i don't think its inspired from
> martial arts...its from the 
> > african fighting dance called capoeria.   I don't
> know which area of africa 
> > but it is also very popular in the northeastern
> parts of brazil........it is 
> > as beautiful and eventful to watch and listen to
> the music as is 
> > breakdancing.....also certian steps and moves are
> of that was originated by 
> > capoeria.....
> > 
> > 
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"As Seen On [TV]" wrote:

> PAUL JOHNSON EMAILED US!!!

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> atleast you didn't declare yourself as "odie", i guess...

Yea, otherwise I'd have to lure him over to the edge of the table so that
I could kick him off.

I hate mondays!  Where's my lasagna?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 18:12:18 2000
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god has been on amp for about 1 yr...
where have you peoples been ?



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>From: Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>
>Reply-To: Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
>Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 03:56:30 -0500
>
>Jahzid Allah wrote:
>
> > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > REAL.  Peace.
>

I agree with you jahzid.  The definition supernatural does not make any 
sense to me either.

>Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
>discussions, but I do find this interesting.

FUCK THAT!!!  After getting bombarded with weekly crap about RATM and punk 
rock I am going to use this mailing list for whatever the fuck I feel like 
discussing.  Granted only 5 other people may actually read what I type, its 
enough to keep me entertained.  Sorry, in the past I at least TRIED to keep 
things RR but I realized its very hard to persuade people by example on a 
mailing list.

I am looking for a more properly suited mailing list to discuss openly 
issues relating to philosophy, science, math, psychology, drugs, music 
theory, evolution, etc. but I cant seem to find anything that even talks of 
one of these.  Anyone know of a good forum where these topics are discussed?

  I have heard something
>similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
>Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>
>Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
>in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
>means...
>
>Does this mean:
>
>a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
>an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
>other religions personify him/her/it)
>

Is this the way most religions view him?  This is something thats been 
bugging me for a while.  Does it make sense to say "yes god exists but he 
doesnt exist in this universe.  He exists in some higher 'meta-Universe' 
along with a bunch of other beings."  If you believe that, then you are 
widening your definition of REAL so much so that it loses all meaning...

Thank god I am not compelled by childhood conditioning to believe in such 
things or I would have much difficulty sleeping at night.

>or
>
>b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
>synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
>a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
>could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
>interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
>'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
>the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
>that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)

Now this is interesting.  I have never encountered such a theory although I 
guess I could say its a view close to what I believe.  I believe people 
deduce the presence of a "devil" from a sequence of percieved "bad" events, 
but that no "devil" actually exists.  But this theory appears to be an 
attempt to blend the two opposite views into some sort of "semi-existent" 
beings, possesing some purpose or will.

Interesting.

Could you offer some clarification of the terms you used.  "Metaprograms", 
"semi-sentient", "culture-space", and "brain-space" are all foreign words to 
me.  Not that I expect these words are easily definable but any attempt at 
definition would help my understanding.

>
>or
>
>c) Something totally different that I don't know...
>

oh no!  Say it aint so!

;)
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 18:14:30 2000
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

+god has been on amp for about 1 yr...
+where have you peoples been ?
+

hootie is making electronica now?

wierd.

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In a message dated 07/02/00 1:14:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
chad@hyperreal.org writes:

<< hootie is making electronica now? >>



actually i meant MADONNA
i forgot the ess  on the god
oops
forgive

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Adam Meadows wrote:

> >From: Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>
> >Reply-To: Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>
> >To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
> >Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 03:56:30 -0500
> >
> >Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> > > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > > REAL.  Peace.
> >
>
> I agree with you jahzid.  The definition supernatural does not make any
> sense to me either.
>
> >Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
> >discussions, but I do find this interesting.
>
> FUCK THAT!!!  After getting bombarded with weekly crap about RATM and punk
> rock I am going to use this mailing list for whatever the fuck I feel like
> discussing.  Granted only 5 other people may actually read what I type, its
> enough to keep me entertained.  Sorry, in the past I at least TRIED to keep
> things RR but I realized its very hard to persuade people by example on a
> mailing list.

Yeah that's true.. at least it's more interesting than most of the crap on
here.

> I am looking for a more properly suited mailing list to discuss openly
> issues relating to philosophy, science, math, psychology, drugs, music
> theory, evolution, etc. but I cant seem to find anything that even talks of
> one of these.  Anyone know of a good forum where these topics are discussed?

Nope...

>   I have heard something
> >similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
> >Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >
> >Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
> >in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
> >means...
> >
> >Does this mean:
> >
> >a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
> >an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
> >other religions personify him/her/it)
> >
>
> Is this the way most religions view him?  This is something thats been
> bugging me for a while.  Does it make sense to say "yes god exists but he
> doesnt exist in this universe.  He exists in some higher 'meta-Universe'
> along with a bunch of other beings."  If you believe that, then you are
> widening your definition of REAL so much so that it loses all meaning...
>
> Thank god I am not compelled by childhood conditioning to believe in such
> things or I would have much difficulty sleeping at night.

Well, you'd just have to admit the existence of 'real, level 1', 'real, level
2', etc.

I also think this belief is rather absurd and old fashioned, given the modern
info-theory alternatives that explain virtually every aspect of religion.. see
below...

> >or
> >
> >b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
> >synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
> >a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
> >could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
> >interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
> >'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
> >the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
> >that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)
>
> Now this is interesting.  I have never encountered such a theory although I
> guess I could say its a view close to what I believe.  I believe people
> deduce the presence of a "devil" from a sequence of percieved "bad" events,
> but that no "devil" actually exists.  But this theory appears to be an
> attempt to blend the two opposite views into some sort of "semi-existent"
> beings, possesing some purpose or will.

Perhaps this is just from me reading cyberpunk and occult books at
the same time... but here's the hypothesis as I understand it.  I believe (I
may be wrong however) that it was first advanced by Israel Regardie.  A
similar concept in more modern language was advanced by Richard
Dawkins (of Selfish Gene fame)...

Basically it goes something like this.

Human beings function as neurons themselves in the social matrix, which
is itself a neural network.  If that is true, then why can't actual sentient
(at
least in some sense) *beings* live in culture-space?  Thus, the battle
between various Gods, Angels, Demons, etc. is in fact info-warfare.
Armageddon could be going on right now, just not on the 'battlefield' that
we are accustomed to seeing.  As the world is connected together, more and
more of humanity becomes part of one collective mind, and the battle is
raging over which patterns will 'rule' humanity in the future.  Those that
are most successful in 'infecting' the minds of more human beings and thus
propagating themselves will win, whereas those less able to win converts
will either lose or find niche environments within secret societies and
isolated cultures/subcultures.  <cue Pi soundtrack... :)>

Memes may be more than just simple repeating patterns.. they may in fact
be sentient beings of some sort.

For instance, demonic posession, angelic revelation, etc. may occur and a
'prophet' or some other such person may be born, when some such
individual finds themselves at a position in the social matrix at which they
become a 'nexus' for certain key patterns of a particular current.  They
then either become a babbling lunatic or a viscious monster if the current
they've tapped is 'demonic'.. e.g. Hitler and his Thule Society buddies, or
they become 'charged by God' to bring a new revelation to mankind.

It is interesting, for example, that almost all major Western religions came
out of the middle-east.  The middle-east was a major trading and travel
nexus of the ancient world, a place where many people from diverse lands
would come into contact with one another.  A perfect fertile breeding ground
for new memetic patterns and cultural metaprograms.

In modern times, the Internet is creating a firestorm of new patterns.  Like
I said above, perhaps this is armageddon... when all the patterns are being
drawn together within one network as the world is linked together and must
battle to see which patterns will become the core of the human cultural
metaprogram.

> Interesting.

I'll say...  This is one of the most interesting ideas I've ever come across.
Trippy, too.  :)

> Could you offer some clarification of the terms you used.  "Metaprograms",
> "semi-sentient", "culture-space", and "brain-space" are all foreign words to
> me.  Not that I expect these words are easily definable but any attempt at
> definition would help my understanding.

semi-sentient: possessing of some consciousness, perhaps on a different level
than that human consciousness we are accustomed to (maybe just 'alien' would
be a better word)

culture-space: the neural network formed between people as a result of human
communication

brain-space: the neural network within the head formed by the interconnection
of nerve cells

metaprograms: subconscious cultural imperatives, more or less



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>Michael, I really think that Paul here has made a VERY generous offer, 
>which
>HARDLY warrants this type of attack on his releases. I mean, can you name
>another producer who has this many records out that would do this???  Or
>even HALF the amount?????  I know *I* can't!!!

I agree 100%...I have sat back and listened to you insult nearly every race, 
creed, and religion aside from your own Micheal, but you are hitting too 
close to home here. I personally know that Paul is a wonderful man with a 
great heart and a genuine respect for the people who support him. If you 
can't respect that in another person then piss off you bitter little man.

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Quoting legend420@collegeclub.com:

> Would you guys shut the fuck up about Propagandhi??!!!
> 
> Laetor,
>                       -=MaTT=-
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never.  bitch.

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: I agree 100%...I have sat back and listened to you insult nearly every
race,
: creed, and religion aside from your own Micheal

i've been here a little longer, and i've seen michael make fun of white
catholics a hundred zillion times

completely unrelated

sorry paul ;]

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need em, if you are one, contact me, please =Ð

thank you
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 I am only 56 records short.. 


    Maybe I can get a free bottle of water or
something..
                     (0_o)

 I am also thinking.. Hell... 1000.00 I am sure I
could get all that vinyl and still make some loot..

 plus entry to 10 parties.. Woo hoo...

          Ebay, here i come..
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>
>atleast you didn't declare yourself as "odie", i guess...

dj odi looks like gregroy hines!


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yes, we have a reservation.  the name is "allah dat."

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>I am looking for a more properly suited mailing list to discuss openly 
>issues relating to philosophy, science, math, psychology, drugs, music 
>theory, evolution, etc. but I cant seem to find anything that even talks 
>of one of these.  Anyone know of a good forum where these topics are discussed?

rageatmlist@umich.edu

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>Or, make sure you NEVER play the same records

easy for you to say, guy.  try spinning a genre where a BIG release week 
sees about 7 12"s hit the streets.  :/


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Well, we dont have to argue this point back and orth or anything...But,
seeing as how you chose to cut out the part of the message that could be
construed as anger towards Michael, Im going to defend Him as well as me on
this one.

Michael already apologized for what he said.

That pretty much sums it up.

Now, lets all cut MICHAEL some slack, eh???

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>>Michael, I really think that Paul here has made a VERY generous offer,
>>which
>>HARDLY warrants this type of attack on his releases. I mean, can you name
>>another producer who has this many records out that would do this???  Or
>>even HALF the amount?????  I know *I* can't!!!
>
>I agree 100%...I have sat back and listened to you insult nearly every
race,
>creed, and religion aside from your own Micheal, but you are hitting too
>close to home here. I personally know that Paul is a wonderful man with a
>great heart and a genuine respect for the people who support him. If you
>can't respect that in another person then piss off you bitter little man.
>
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religion, eh?
nnnnn..... so, this is a conversation rich with impossibility.
thank goodness we decided to pose it on the almighty mw-rave list where it surely shall be solved.
No one should be so tied up in the "flaws" of another's reason for living, regardless if it is to honor a god, honor ourselves, or what have you. We are all trying to conclude our lives with meaning.... it is purely a difference in method and belief. No one reilgion or world view is better or more correct than another. Theories. Equal theories. And if you have  found something that makes you feel a little more comfortable living  a life unsure of what is written on that last profound page, great. And if you have not, hey that's fine, too. It's surprising, the number of people who turn out to be just as scared as you may be once you put it out on the table instead of bottling up and becoming angry. I know this sounds cliched but,If you have a hard time handling another person's ideals, try to see things from their view. Empathy is the most amazing clarifier.  Behind every seemingly wrong idea is a motive, and behind that a determined and hopeful mind that creates perfect reasoning. It is all a matter of perception. 
but then again, what can i really say? i am just another blind creature.
***blissfathom***
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:00:03    chopstiks wrote:
>
>i understand what you said about your views about christians but
>everything we "put stock in " comes from what another human wrote or tried
>to convey. some are more grounded on empirical evidence than others and to
>put all ideas would not make anything any better.
>sorry i'm being too pickey with your words.
>choppie:)
>
>On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Ms. Applesauce wrote:
>
>> i think christians are weak....its very easy to believe ina  *religion* that 
>> says all you have to do is ask for forgiveness from *god* and you dont have 
>> to suffer any consequences for whatever it is you did....and how can you put 
>> any stock in somthing a man(im not reffering to a person with a penis, but a 
>> HUMAN BEING) wrote...people
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i say we stone him and burn him at the stake.


On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Derek Plaslaiko wrote:

> Michael already apologized for what he said.
> 
> That pretty much sums it up.
> 
> Now, lets all cut MICHAEL some slack, eh???
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oops, sorry, i didn't mean to send that message to you, i was going through old junk in my account and accidentally sent this, sorry !!
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religion, eh?
nnnnn..... so, this is a conversation rich with impossibility.
thank goodness we decided to pose it on the almighty mw-rave list where it surely shall be solved.
No one should be so tied up in the "flaws" of another's reason for living, regardless if it is to honor a god, honor ourselves, or what have you. We are all trying to conclude our lives with meaning.... it is purely a difference in method and belief. No one reilgion or world view is better or more correct than another. Theories. Equal theories. And if you have  found something that makes you feel a little more comfortable living  a life unsure of what is written on that last profound page, great. And if you have not, hey that's fine, too. It's surprising, the number of people who turn out to be just as scared as you may be once you put it out on the table instead of bottling up and becoming angry. I know this sounds cliched but,If you have a hard time handling another person's ideals, try to see things from their view. Empathy is the most amazing clarifier.  Behind every seemingly wrong idea is a motive, and behind that a determined and hopeful mind that creates perfect reasoning. It is all a matter of perception. 
but then again, what can i really say? i am just another blind creature.
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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:00:03    chopstiks wrote:
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>i understand what you said about your views about christians but
>everything we "put stock in " comes from what another human wrote or tried
>to convey. some are more grounded on empirical evidence than others and to
>put all ideas would not make anything any better.
>sorry i'm being too pickey with your words.
>choppie:)
>
>On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Ms. Applesauce wrote:
>
>> i think christians are weak....its very easy to believe ina  *religion* that 
>> says all you have to do is ask for forgiveness from *god* and you dont have 
>> to suffer any consequences for whatever it is you did....and how can you put 
>> any stock in somthing a man(im not reffering to a person with a penis, but a 
>> HUMAN BEING) wrote...people
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 no way. dj funk got shot like monthes ago. lol. ;P

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:

> "As Seen On [TV]" wrote:
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> > PAUL JOHNSON EMAILED US!!!
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> OMG!!! DJ Funk touched me!#$!!$!#!
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Yeah people, Leave michael alone. He has the right to say whatever he feels. 
Don't get offended by someones opinion. It's his own. He's right about one 
thing too. The record labels that I used to put shit out on tried to make us 
stay in the bullshit era, telling us to do this and that to your tracks and 
most of them did suck after that so, I respect you for  noticing the fuck 
ups. But you got one thing wrong Michael. I got fucked out of more then half 
of those releases. That's why I left them alone and started my own thing. 
It's a life style that I think you would agree we couldn't do without so, 
Once again thank you for your comment...P.J...

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>If you can't respect that in another person
>then piss off you bitter little man.
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anyone here used morning glory seeds as a psychoactive?
can someone please describe to me any positive and negative effects you
experienced?
and yeah, i've read erowid's & lycaeum's stuff on it.
i'm lookin' for a personal experience.

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I LOVE THE INTERRUPTING COW JOKE!!!!!
-val

jes said:
>
>don't even make me tell the interrupting cow joke. don't go there. ;)
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, valerie valenzo* wrote:

> I LOVE THE INTERRUPTING COW JOKE!!!!!
> -val
> 
> jes said:
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> >don't even make me tell the interrupting cow joke. don't go there. ;)

the interrupting cow joke sucks. come on val....get with it!

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: Full Spectrum <fspectrum@yahoo.com>

> 
> Not enufff security considering that 3 kids broke into
> the room where they were doing construction...They
> fucked up a good deal of the electrical equipment,
> broke a few of the new walls that were up in there,
> and somehow managed to break into the photon room from
> that side :(  not very cool-and then people wonder why
> we're not allowed to have our shindigs in Chicago and
> why we're not welcomed in too many other places...oh
> well-if the scene doesn't get any smarter-you can kiss
> it goodbye-it's a shame, we (fs and blink) brought the
> space back 'cause we wanted to see the chicago scene
> the way it was in '94-'95 (total) but if things like
> this keep happening (along with the heavy drug
> use)-like I said-kiss it all goodbye...
> 
> luis-'nuff said...
>
> --- Tom Bankowski <trancetrippin@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > JAZZAMATAZZ was str8, but way too much sercurity,
> > don't u think??? Plus, 
> > they didn't open up that HUGE room like they did at
> > NO PLACE LIKE HOME. Oh 
> > well, still a phat partE - luv tha venue!!!
> > 
> > P*L*U*R
> > 
> > tOm
> > 
> > 
> > >From: Shady00187@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: fullspectrumchicago@egroups.com
> > >To: fullspectrumchicago@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [fullspectrumchicago] Re: february
> > playlist
> > >Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:32:17 EST
> > >
> > >don't know much bout jazzmataz......... got lost
> > trying to get there and
> > >ended up at year of the dragon which really really
> > sucked.................
> > >
> >
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DAMN!

I opened this look'n for sum good reading..... instead I get seed talk!

hmmph!
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At 03:12 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote:

>i say we stone him and burn him at the stake.


"did you say steak?"

doris i luv gettin stoned with you maaaaan


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In a message dated 2/7/00 2:25:19 PM Central Standard Time, 
kevinryan@students.wisc.edu writes:

<< [me/Makes claws with hands and swipes in
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Kevin Ryan is one sassy little man

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> 
> doris i luv gettin stoned with you maaaaan
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 22:22:24 2000
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Are you still on MW Raves?

If not, could someone please give me an e mail address?

Thank you kindly.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 22:25:23 2000
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He's still here, and I'm sure he'll reply, and I should reply privately,
but I feel it's worth noting that his e-mail address is, indeed,
chrisege@fatchicksinpartyhats.com

That is all- move along, there's nothing to see here.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 07 22:40:48 2000
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What's the info for Smitty out in Cali who dupes
tapes? Anybody know? Also...do you peeps have any
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Please hit me back privately =)
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astroglide, beano, dental floss and dog food.  SOUNDS LIKE A PARTY!!

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On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, chad clary wrote:
> > >   6.        1-800-CARE-002  Free pregnancy test
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Now there's a party in a nutshell, eh?

> > >   6.        1-800-585-1300 Free karate book ("100 Action Principals of 
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Holy shit!  I'm totally going to order this!

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1800MIXTAPE

or i think it is

1888MIXTAPE

on of those 2

----- Original Message ----- 
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> What's the info for Smitty out in Cali who dupes
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BOM!!! =)
trouble getting directions - the lexington # for info was not working (nate 
fx #) and living on campus and not having ready access to long distance made 
this a slight problem...)

after an initial bad impression waiting in line (there were some serious 
thuglife around) made it inside, purchased my hawtin ticket (WOOOO 
HOOOO!!!!!) and wandered for a while.  trevor lamont & cory were up at the 
time on the lower floor.  while it was a great set i could never find a 
dancing groove (that moloko track kicks ass!).  wandered up stairs... not 
quite as many people dancing there... altho the mirrors on the wall opposite 
the stairs made the room look huge.  lots of people just standing around.. 
not dancing.  marv-c was on the decks at the time... found a more danceable 
groove there...  waiting for the set of the nite... DJ SPREE...  aside from 
some sound issues he and MC ADB shook me for 2 hours.  great track selection 
along w/ adb pushing the crowd i found a groove to dance to...  (god bless 
happyhardcore) the inflatable smiley faces that were being past around  
added that extra little bit of smile to my face.. (it still makes me smile 
=)  after spree i went back upstairs to have my eardrums pierced by 
Amalgamm.. the siren effect he had going at the time killed me.  that pretty 
much completed the headache that had been hanging around since about noon 
thursday.. so i decided to split at that point and attempt to sleep off the 
headache -which didnt work.  overall a good venue which i would like to see 
again...  minus the sound issues a good party.
best part of the nite (aside from spree) the police showed up and made all 
the under 18's leave - no offense to anyone on the list but that masses of 
minor types are retarded (i would (hope)presume anyone on here does not fall 
into that category)
btw - lexington cops suck -




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how about 1-800-877-tape??? that was my last contact  # for him...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@visto.com
fon: (513) 861-6760
new website: http://zap.to/djoracle

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> 1800MIXTAPE
> 
> or i think it is
> 
> 1888MIXTAPE
> 
> on of those 2
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
> 
> > What's the info for Smitty out in Cali who dupes
> > tapes? Anybody know? Also...do you peeps have any
> > other names or contacts for tape duplication?
> > 
> > Please hit me back privately =)
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Friday Feb. 11th in Cincinnati

Subsonik presents Floorplan 03

featuring:

Dan Curtin - Metamorphic, Sublime, Cleveland.
Titonton - Metamorphic, Residual, Columbus.
Spirit - one of the finest techno dj's in Ohio.
Subgenious - Yellow Hyptnotic, Cincinnati.
Adam Jensen - Subsonik, Cincinnati
React - Subsonik, Cincinnati
Headstrong, Ruffdrapht, Subsonik, Cincinnati

This event will go from 10pm - 6am.
Bangin' sound by: C & D, lights by Galactic Illumination
Admission is $10 before midnight, $12 after. 

For info and directions call 513.682.3282
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definately a bom biggitdy party.  yes, sound was shitty but spree and adb 
were beautiful!  danced the entire set except for the first 10 minutes cause 
i was evtering the party.  yes, lpd does suck a phatty but all you have to do 
is ask them to come dance with you and they're just like nevermind have fun.  
had never seen tigger before but had fun.  troll got pissed of or sumthin 
cause he was only on for like 20 minutes.  it was nice hearing booth for the 
last time.  hadn't seen him in a while cause it's almost the same set but was 
a fun set.  all in all, i love lexington parties!!!!  missy marie

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ege is dead
i hate mw-raves
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In a message dated 07/02/00 7:10:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
applesauce909@hotmail.com writes:

<< i hate mw-raves
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I LOVE YOU LAURA !
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On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 22:09:05 -0500 Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>
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> > You people are WEIRD.
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> .DRIEW era elpoep uoY

Heh, heh, heh!  Ouyay irsay aray unnyfay!

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[disclaimer] 
........................................................................
"Different semantic funnels for different reality tunnels." -R.A.W.

The most important things are often the hardest to say; that which is
clear and timeless in my mind can become almost shamefully mundane when
translated into words. I don't claim to have the answers; "all I have
to offer is my own confusion."  But, there are things being discussed
here that mean something (or everything) to me, and so I offer up my
thoughts. What you do with them is up to you. 
........................................................................


 Cryptographers, Sufis, Numerologists, Ravers, Hippies, etc-

 These are labels. Though we may choose to identify with them, they
obviously are not the sum of who we are.  To say that I am *this*, and
not *that* is a self-imposed limitation that only serves to cut me off
from the wealth of experience various cultures provide. At different
times I can be any, all, or none of these things.  In any "scene" there
are those who make me cringe at the thought of being associated with
them. I may need take a step back at times, but I refuse to abandon
that which I love in the care of such people. 

 That's it for me, for now.


"If there are 20 amongst you, patient and persevering, they will 
overcome two hundred."  

                                  -The Koran



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learn to use a mail filter, people. It'll add years to your life.




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 01:04:08 2000
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i love columbus, it makes me feel like a raver!! 

  i have been there only twice, but every visit was perfect!! 

  Well, after watching 25+ people bust their ass on the same stretch of ice in 
five minutes of time, we went in.  The venue was phat, very undergroundy 
feeling, kinda like the crane, only better!!  composed of like 9 basketball 
courts, or something close, nicely decorated.  The sound was a little louder 
than I have recently been used to, but my ears withstood the constant buzzing, 
its the price you have to pay sometimes.  This may offend some people, but 
TITONTON was a huge disappointment!!  Flipside/Freaky flow, IMPRESSIVE, wish 
pgh brought more MCs.  Fire was my second fav. track of the night!!  Most 
Rad!!!   But the joy of the night was my indulgence in hardcore!!  Yes, that 
was me in the red, dancing and thrashing about infront of the speakers when 
Watdafuk came on.  First time seeing him!!  Pure energy for me, I loved it.  My 
first words when I entered the party (Michael will atest to this) was: "Is 
there going to be any hardcore tonight?"  Indeed there was, and it was fucking 
hard...  fav. track of the night was, well I don't know the name, but it has 
samples of "chainsaw fingers and bones" and "chairs made of human..."  Deadly 
Buda spun it at Chaotic Transdimension... is it his???
well, I love you columbus, I will return soon, I promise... 


Jester 

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From: Rachel Martz <rachelm@swbell.net>
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NO MERCY
Valentine's Day Weekend
Saturday February 12, 2000
Kansas City Area
9:30pm - 7am

We're setting up the sound in the afternoon, so everything WILL BE ready
to go at 9:30pm.  If we have a line like we did at Natural Disaster, we
will open the doors early (with a dj on-hand, and ready to
play).

COST:

$16.00  (Yes, this includes professional lighting)
PLEASE BRING EXACT CHANGE 


LINE-UP

Carlos [San Francisco] (S.F. House Collective)  
DDR [U.K. Live acid-techno PA] (Smitten, Stay-Up Forever)
Roman [Seattle] (Funky Techno Tribe, NativeVision.com)
Ryan Tinsley [Chicago} (tech-house)
My Friend Mike/Nico [Kansas City] (ambient dnb)
Offtrack [Kansas]
DJ Gruve [Chicago]
 
INFOLINES:
 
816.292.2881
816.871.5151
816.920.3578 (messages only)

SAME PLACE AS NATURAL DISASTER - GUARANTEED NOT TO GET SHUT-DOWN

DIRECTIONS (A LITTLE MORE COMPLETE THAN IN THE PAST):

[] indicates road/street name

>From east (downtown KC):

I-70W
To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

>From west:

TOLL
I-70E
To Bonner Springs Exit 
Through tollgate, turn left onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

TOLLFREE 
K-10 E (LEAVING LAWRENCE)
TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
Follow north (eventually you'll see the tollbooths that are off I70)
just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

>From north:
I-35S
To I-70W
To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].


>From south:

TOLL
I-35N
To I-70W
To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7 (Northbound).
Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

TOLLFREE
I-435W
K-10 (WEST)
TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
Follow north (eventually you'll see the tollbooths that are off I70)
just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.  
After stop, take second left (not very far from light) onto [Mitchel].

Venue is named:  Racer's 2  [Big lit sign in the sky]

*Please note:

Highway 7 is a divided highway with a posted speed limit of 65 mph.  Get
in the left lane as you approach the second 4-way stoplight.  You will
have to turn left abruptly from the fast lane of the highway.  I suggest
not picking up too much speed once you leave the light because its a
sharp left turn without a turn lane and poorly lit.  It's REALLY easy to
miss.

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halfway through the b side of ben kenobis "seduced by the darkside"
mixtape....male vocals:  "no i dont.....wanna be alone....no more"

sounds as though its a popular track/rmx, but i dont follow garage.

thanx in advance
jim

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Damn, and all this time I thought it was Impatient Cow.

: On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, valerie valenzo* wrote:
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: > I LOVE THE INTERRUPTING COW JOKE!!!!!
: > -val
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: > jes said:
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: > >don't even make me tell the interrupting cow joke. don't go there. ;)
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: the interrupting cow joke sucks. come on val....get with it!
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now's as good a time as any.

peace,
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use a filter

peace,
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KEVIN YOU'RE MY FAVORITE TRANCEDOG.

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:

> >If you can't respect that in another person
> >then piss off you bitter little man.
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Hello, folks!

I'm RaverBoyy2000 -- AKA by my 'rents as Blair Donovan.
I currently residing in Chi-Town but I heard about the
PURaves list, STLouis list, and other Indy lists from
a friend of mine going to Purdue (hey, Cheryl, girlie-
baby!!!)  Anyways, my interests right now is music,
house and techno, raving, and, alas, school.  And I
dare say in that order.

I'm a firm believer that techno/house and moderate drug
use go hand-in-hand, so if you're looking for warriors
in an army of anti-drug users, find someone else.  If
you need a warrior in the anti-drug ABUSERS... sign me up!
I believe there is a difference between drug use and
drug ABUSE!  So there!

Anyway.  Alittle about myself (because it kinda' correlates
to my review).  My first party was ALL THAT JAZZ back in
September of 1999.  I had heard from Cheryl about the
rave scene.  She, herself, goes only sparatically.  But,
she took me there and I HAD A BLAST!  Tip #1:  If you take
a newbie to a party -- DO NOT LET THEM DO DRUGS!!!!  If
they do, and they "get hooked on parties" chances are its
because of the drugs.  Cheryl wouldn't let me "roll" that
night.  She didn't let me roll until New School Science in
indy back in December.

Anyway, ALL THAT JAZZ was amazing!  I know alot of people
bitch about the Dolton Expo Center, but, I'm new so I like
it.  It's hot, sweaty, and dirty!

So, when I heard that A.T.J was a 3-part "series" and JAZZA
MATAZZ was the 2nd installment, well, I HAD TO GO!!!  With DJs
like Halo, Cari Lekenbush (sp??), Boo Williams, Paul Anthony,
and (IMO) the coolest name in the MidWest (Chocolate The
Freaky Afronaut), Iknew I was in for a treat. And
I did.  Here's my experience:

First, I show up about 9PM.  I just KNEW that it would be
packed and I didn't want to wait in a long line!  Esp.
in this cold!  To my surprise, there werent' many people
there.  In fact, a line didn't start forming until about
11PM or so.  Hmmm...   I was kinda' worried.  I didn't
want to roll until 3AM or so, that way I got a good feel
for the music (I'm still learning).

The security was groovy.  Not too mean.  Not too nice.  Just
right.  I swear they saw some of my friends bumping up a
couple of times and didn't do anything about it.  Hmmm....
I don't know if that's cool or not.

Anyway, the venue (an oldschool space I guess) was the PHOTON,
an old lazertag place where some girl died 3 years earlier,
I heard.  Spooky.  No acid tonight, that's for sure.  Lots
of places to run and hide and make-out.  Not enough room
to dance.  Too many slanted ramps.  Couldn't really see the
DJ, unless you were on the second level across from the
DJ booth.

Now, the music....

The first DJ in the main room played some cool, jazzy
melodic house.  Nothing to "jackin'" or hard.  In fact,
me and my boy Mikey were naming off tapes that we heard
each song on.   "Oooh, that's on NEED ANOTHER PLAN!  Oooh,
that;s Ian Pooley's Live @ TRAXX!"  It was fun, but I
was hoping to be educated, not caterred to.

My excitement was getting unbearable as midnight approached.
Halo (one of my favorites) was supposed to play.  But,
alas, he was a no-show (bastard!).  Who was to play, then???
The cat with the coolest name got on the decks!!!  He
started with some hard, funky up-front house, some more
commercial stuff, you know, nothing too underground.  But
it was fun (he, too, played a song off of Ian Pooley's
LIE @ TRAXX tape "Electronic Funk" I think).  Lots of
cuts and tricks.  Shit was dope!  then, he started getting
harder and harder.  "Techno with a dab of progression",
Mikey tells me.  Man, Chocolate is tha' SHIT!  BOOK THIS
BITCH MORE OFTEN!!! I managed to talk to him later and
gave him my addy for a tape.  I heard he's on this list
so if he is PLEASE SEND A TAPE!!!   ;-)

But, no matter how bad-ass Chocolate was, when Boo came on,
all hell broke loose!  Man, THAT IS SOME HOUSE MUSIC!!!!
Smooth, deep, funky, melodic...  You name it, that fat
bastard's GOT it!  I was in a sweaty heep by the end of
his set.  Education has never been sweeter!  But, by
this time, the second room was up-n-running and Frankie
Vega was giving it to us HARD!  The sound was amazing
in the second room but that's probably because the room
was TOO DAMNED SMALL!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't like getting
bumped into every other minute, but with Frankie's
"tech-house" and techno, it was well worth it!  Promoters,
BOOK THIS MAN MORE OFTEN!!!!!!

Well, I won't go into the rest of the ordeal, because it's
drug-related.  Took a roll.  Gave a seabreeze.  Rubbed a
back or three.  Made new "rave Friends", etc..

All-in-all, well worththe $20 price tag!  My next
party will probably be DeepLove in Indy.  I hear
Mark Farina is THA BOMB!  This two little Indy kids
(Chad and Gang Related (???)) kept handing me
DEEP LOVE fliers.  If they're on this list...
WASSUP?!  you've convinced me.  ;-)

Well, I didn't realize that the e-mail was THIS long.
I better go, now.  Peace and Rave On!

-RaverBoyy2000
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I am trying hella hard to get there...if everything works out according to 
plan, you'll see the kitten in the saintly city. At any rate, can someone 
please send me the info for this party? I would really appreciate it. Muchas 
gracias.

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Syceda Rhythm presents...

BACK TO MORTEVILLE
Saturday March 11, 2000
Kansas City Missouri Area

Dan Efex
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.. i'm in need of some dj agent phone numbers for upcoming shows, so any
numbers anyone could hook me up with would be much appreciated .. (you know,
the good stuff .. house, trance, jungle, techno, etc.) ..

thanks! ;)

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As many of you may or mayn't know, Feb 12 is Love 2000, the biggest rave in 
MN. Well here's my little nugget about it.

***Tonight***
Me, three other DJ friends of mine, two of their girlfriends and some others 
were sitting at Perkins. I was relaxing and enjoying my french fries when my 
friends older sister pulled me aside.
"There's someone that wants to meet you." Said Theresa.
"Me?"
"Yeah, come on."
So Theresa and I walk to another corner of the restaurant where her fiance 
Dave and some other guy, mid-to-late 30s, are sitting.
"Chris, it's good to meet, you." He holds out his hand, and I shake it.
"Me? Really?"
"Yeah, I hear you have a CD out..." we continued to talk and I got set up 
with an opporunity to DJ at this club called "Backstage." Then he told me 
about a place I could play at to promote my CD. Down in Minneapolis, this 
Saturday.
So I'm thinkin' LOVE RAVE 2000!!!!!
Now my only problem is finding a ride to Minneapolis this Saturday. Think 
it's gonna happen?

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Skelechairs... Doormouse madness at its best!
>samples of "chainsaw fingers and bones" and "chairs made of human..."  
>Deadly
>Buda spun it at Chaotic Transdimension... is it his???
>well, I love you columbus, I will return soon, I promise...
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See what happens when a girl and 40 lbs. of ground beef become friends. Don't ask me how i find this shit, the vault is endless fellas.

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sit back,
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as mw-raves takes you on a fonky ride.

or, umm...
welcome :)

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HEY GARAGE HEY

ISN'T THAT THE RIP OFF OF THAT ONE GIRL R&B GROUP YEAH LIKE TLC

YEAH!!  EN VOGUE!!!!!!!?@#$

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yeah but where's the hardcore?!

At 11:26 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote:
>.. i'm in need of some dj agent phone numbers for upcoming shows, so any
>numbers anyone could hook me up with would be much appreciated .. (you know,
>the good stuff .. house, trance, jungle, techno, etc.) ..
>
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What is jesus does not exist.
 
Maybe the devil was so pissed at god that he wanted to get even.

So what would be the best way to piss off god.

Create a son for god that every one adores and worships.

God cant come forth and say, hey there is really no jesus, its just the
devil's sick mind fuck.

No, god has to sit there and take it.

Something that the devil just would love to spend for all time doing.

Sitting back and having a good joke on God.


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hey guns n roses just came out with a double disc it is a live album  i 
haven't heard it yet but you know it has to be good


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In a message dated 2/7/0 5:52:36 PM, sluggo wrote:

<<You are seriously the prime example of what happens 
when you let negative energy run your life. Despite the fact 
that you believe you have attained some sort of religious 
enlightenment>>

daaaaaag!!!...last time i ever cyber with one of sluggo's
sisters again!!!

seriously dude, i didn't know...she IM'ed me!!...i din't figure
it out til she told me that her brother was the dj that
who had the strange affinity of "pokin" his pokemon doll!!

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In a message dated 2/7/0 5:57:21 PM, atomly wrote:

<<> atleast you didn't declare yourself as "odie", i guess...

Yea, otherwise I'd have to lure him over to the edge of the 
table so that I could kick him off.

I hate mondays!  Where's my lasagna?

--
:: atomly :: >>

no diggity doubt. i think i've had my worst monday ever
today!!

thank God for my porn*star roomies: zenopiez, nicci, and 
oh yah, the newest one: bri!!...or my broke ass would've been
evicted!!

lol, nicci has already managed to devirginize the bathroom as 
well as their bedroom now within a 48 hour period!!


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In a message dated 2/8/0 5:37:54 AM, rick wrote:

<<Create a son for god that every one adores and worships.>>

right on...cuz y'know if God is truly the God of love,
his son would hafta be da pimp mastah!...

that's why he wuz so gung ho over Mary Magdalene
...that girl was a playa!!...no diggity doubt!...





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At 12:18 AM 2/8/00 -0600, michael knight wrote:
>yeah but where's the hardcore?!
>
>At 11:26 PM 2/7/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>.. i'm in need of some dj agent phone numbers for upcoming shows, so any
>>numbers anyone could hook me up with would be much appreciated .. (you know,
>>the good stuff .. house, trance, jungle, techno, etc.) ..
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^
C'mon mike read the post... he said GOOD STUFF duh.   I thought you were
smarter than that ;)


tad


>>
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Boogie Knights Invite you to our First Birthday Party
----------------------------------
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March 25 2000
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To be held at a 100% clean legal virgin venue 
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Only $15!

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i have to write a paper about this act and i am inquiring what your opinions 
are about it.  it basically states that: "a state does not have to recognize 
a same-sex marriage from another state or any resulting rights or claims."  
it also defines marriage as: "the union between one man and one woman."  
this is a federal law that was passed by a 342-67 vote in 1996.  the paper 
is about the justness, or fairness and validity of this law and whether or 
not it should be allowed to stand.

thanks in advance

peace-
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In a message dated 2/7/00 9:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< thank God for my porn*star roomies: zenopiez, nicci, and 
 oh yah, the newest one: bri!!...or my broke ass would've been
 evicted!!
 
 lol, nicci has already managed to devirginize the bathroom as 
 well as their bedroom now within a 48 hour period!! >>

i have NO idea what yer talking about! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 10:15:07 2000
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FYI

The DiscoDisciples d'Amour's
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Please refer all inquiries to them.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 12:12:46 2000
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ALL NIGHT

In the spring of 1994, they took away our right to dance.  To-night we turn 
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 "the wealthy man's dica" <dpayer@umich.edu> writes:
> > 
> > doris i luv gettin stoned with you maaaaan
> > 
> 
> it's not doris.  it's sunflower.   

Love the new title, is that self-proclaimed or were you
dubbed? (pardon the pun)

Peace and love,

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woo hoo, i dont hafta go in til noon today, so i get to
stuff y'allz mailboxes w/ more of my "negative" banter...

In a message dated 2/8/0 6:48:53 AM, nhgarlan wrote:

<<Boogie Knights Invite you to our First Birthday Party>>

funny, we just watched "boogie nights" a bit ago...and wuz
thinkin bout doin a "porn party" here...

i tell you what, nicci is definitly roller girl, she's even got
the baby t for it...btw, she wuz liein when she said she didn't
know anything about devirginizin the bathroom, you can ask
zenopiez or bree..i think the only room that hasn't been 
devirginized is the mop closet...

anybody got connects to a cheap digital cam?



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----Original Message Follows----
From: "nathan" <nhgarlan@artsci.wustl.edu>
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 00:54:04 -0600

Boogie Knights Invite you to our First Birthday Party
----------------------------------
COSMIC BOOGIE JAM
----------------------------------
March 25 2000
St. Louis, MO
To be held at a 100% clean legal virgin venue
Info: 314-567-2041 & www.boogieknights.net
Only $15!

MODA - First St. Louis appearance EVER!
        Trancefusion, San Francisco - Trance.  www.trancefusion.com
Mr. Mistykiss - Rewind, Atlanta - House
Matt Positive - Happy League, Chicago - Happy Hardcore
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Boy Wonder - Kansas City - Happy Hardcore/Jungle
Dino - Boogie Knights, Chicago - Tech House

Is this the same Dino that used to throw parties as U and Me Productions in 
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and does anyone have contact info for him?  He's an old friend and I haven't 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 15:37:34 2000
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> i have to write a paper about this act and i am inquiring what your
opinions
> are about it.  it basically states that: "a state does not have to
recognize
> a same-sex marriage from another state or any resulting rights or claims."
> it also defines marriage as: "the union between one man and one woman."
> this is a federal law that was passed by a 342-67 vote in 1996.  the paper
> is about the justness, or fairness and validity of this law and whether or
> not it should be allowed to stand.

    Dude, that's a pretty no-brainer paper, I'm still consistently amazed
that congress, people who are supposed to be rationally-minded people of
good judgement actually passed this bill, and it wasn't even close! To tell
two people who love each other that they can't get married even though
they'll probably be alot happier than 80% of "proper" married couples is
totally ridiculous. Hmm, we have gay-bashers who beat up gays, I'd love to
see a group of braincandy-style femme boys beating the crap out of some old
republican dude... =] Now my question, what the hell is up with the massive
conservatism of the 90's? All the old folks have decided the world's going
to hell so instead of trying to fix some problems they just clam up and try
to protect "traditional family values" in all its evil forms, at the expense
of the happiness and sometimes sanity of the people. It's so screwy... I
just don't understand... Maybe it's because the baby boomers are rich right
now, they say the more you have to lose the more conservative you get, who
knows...

    - Matt Murphy -
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 15:42:25 2000
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There is a very old belief (non-christian) that I found to be very
interesting and somewhat related...

the story:
------------------------------------------------- - - - -  -  -   -
-      -
Long ago before anything was, two beings sit atop a roof smoking hashish
and pondering the vast empty universe around them.  They decide to play a
game of self-deception where one creates a world and perceives it, and the
other acts upon it.  The object of the game is one to see through the
deception and be entirely aware of the game's workings.  At each point the
object is not met, the game becomes more and more complex...more vehicles
of perception and therefore more elements to act upon, ensuring them both
of a long-lasting and challenging game.
------------------------------------------------- - - - -  -  -   -
-      -

the gist:

Existence is an illusion created by the interplay of two minds.  The
creative mind (call him god) created the universe (as we know it) and
perceives it through all of us.  We are all a piece of god, and he is the
sum of all of us.  The active force (call him devil) is the trickster,
forever in disguise and rarely having his work noticed.  He is continually
trying to throw us off with miracles, visions, prophets, jesus and the
like, until the time at which he has all of us at his control.  And it's an
open book, so we'll see...so goes the interpretation.

This is not my necessary belief or anything, just a perspective I found to
be interesting...take it for what it's worth.

peace...gregori


Rick Thompson / Maxart wrote:

> What is jesus does not exist.
>
> Maybe the devil was so pissed at god that he wanted to get even.
>
> So what would be the best way to piss off god.
>
> Create a son for god that every one adores and worships.
>
> God cant come forth and say, hey there is really no jesus, its just the
> devil's sick mind fuck.
>
> No, god has to sit there and take it.
>
> Something that the devil just would love to spend for all time doing.
>
> Sitting back and having a good joke on God.
>
> Just an Idea, but if I was the devil that what I would do.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 15:44:17 2000
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my computer is fubar...  any one know what to do?
the problem:  it started out w/ just being slow.  then it got really slow.  
then i got error messages about not having enough virtual memory, including 
when scandisk attempted to run.  then my office 97 worked fine on my comp 
but when i went to save to a disk i would receive one of several error 
messages - primarily about closing the disk door.  now nothing works.  it is 
kind of important that i get it fixed or at least backup the majority of 
data on it if i need to reformat... i am to the point of throwing it out a 
window...  and i didnt get my paper turned in this morning because of 
this...

peace-
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>
>  PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THE TROUBLED FEMALE TEEN
>Author - Seth McGann
>Date - 5/25/98
>
>1. OVERVIEW
>
>In this report I will attempt to quantify the personality traits of
>the troubled teen with
>  the intent of creating a psychological profile (or signature).  The
>techniques used to
>arrive at these conclusions are the same used by the FBI to profile
>unknown serial killers
>to facilitate their capture.  All the conclusions are based on
>real-life interviews, long
>exposure to several people possessing the target personality, as well
>as some behavioral
>psychology.  This report is divided into a theory and a practice
>section as well as a small
>section on exploitation.  At the end of this report you should have
>all the information you
>need to identify the personality type defined in this report and with
>practice should be
>able to exploit the female for your enjoyment.
>
>2.  THEORY
>
>The personality we are defining is that of a troubled teen.
>Specifically, we seek female
>teens from 12 to 18 years of age (possibly older) with severe unipolar
>depression.  The
>reason for this will become evident later.  We also seek a highly
>extroverted personality
>with little or no inhibitions.  A side effect of this will be mild to
>severe hyperactivity,
>which we must also look for.  So, we desire a depressed, extroverted,
>hyperactive female.
>Luckily, these traits go hand in hand.  Additionally, the behavior
>associated with them is
>easy to identify, even from a distance.  In the next section, a
>behavioral profile will be
>provided that can be used a template for this personality.
>
>3.  PRACTICE
>
>We begin our profile with an examination of the subject.  This can be
>broken into several
>pieces.  As with any profile, not everything will be the same for
>every subject.  The more
>parts that fit, the better the chance of a match.
>
>HEAD:
>Examine the subjects head.  Is her hair dyed?  Does it show evidence
>of being dyed
>multiple times?  The more times the better.  Next look at her ears.
>Multiple self-inflicted
>piercings with strange studs should be evident.  Also look for
>make-up.  We want a purple
>color scheme, though this may, or may not be evident.  Also look for
>scarring, (white or red
>lines).  The more scarring the better.
>
>ARMS and LEGS:
>Look closely at the subjects wrists and forearms.  Search for evidence
>of scarring in these
>locations.  Heavy scarring on the wrists is an indication of attempted
>suicide (a plus for
>us).  Also look for names that have been carved into her skin.  She
>may chose to hide her
>names by carving them in hard to see places, so don't be discouraged
>just yet.  Another good
>sign is burn marks.  Be careful though, severe physical or sexual
>abuse will produce the
>wrong type of personality, we want all the damage to be
>self-inflicted.
>
>BODY:
>The overall female should be very thin most of the time, although
>obesity is a possibility
>too.  She will have used starvation as a means to attempt suicide in
>the past.  We seek a
>physically attractive female, so feel free to discard females that are
>disturbing to look
>at.
>
>Now that we have screened for a female with the above physical
>characteristics we have to
>take a look at her mind.  Even here, observation is key.  It will be
>easier to inventory her
>mind if you try to start a conversation.  The proper type will
>undoubtedly start the
>conversation for you, and begin telling her life story, given a little
>prodding.  Watch her
>body language as she talks.  She will subconsciously emphasize certain
>points, which we want
>to know about.  Here is what we are looking for:
>
>BEHAVIOR:
>The female will try to always be at the center of attention.  Given
>the proper setting (a
>house party, for instance) she will not hesitate to run around
>completely naked.  This is a
>very good sign as it requires a VERY uninhibited personality (even
>with large amounts of
>alcohol).  She will begin to talk to whoever is near her, and will
>continually steer the
>conversation back to her.  She will complain about her life, how bad
>her day was, and given
>enough time she will drop important details.  This release of
>information will happen
>whether the subject is inebriated or not, the hallmark of this
>personality.  Areas to
>question the subject on are as follows:
>
>DRUG and ALCOHOL USE:
>The subject should use drugs heavily, if not now, in the past.  She
>may have convictions and
>be on probation for use and sale of marijuana.  Generally, she will
>not use harder drugs
>than pot, if anything else it will usually be "shrooms" or LSD.  She
>will also use alcohol
>heavily, generally in a social setting.  All this drug use will
>generally take place with
>her friends in a closed setting.  Don't expect to see this at bar or
>other open gathering.
>
>MEDICAL HISTORY:
>Here is the most important section.  If you've gotten this far
>everything here should fit
>perfectly.  She will have been treated for "depression" in the past,
>most likely with an
>in-patient stay at a mental facility.  The reason for her stay will be
>attempted suicide or
>suicidal ideations (thinking about ending it).  The methods she will
>use will not be
>effective (like a shotgun blast to the head) but will be designed to
>attract attention.
>Horizontal wrist slashing will bleed a lot, but is generally not fatal
>and can be repaired.
>  Overdosing on over the counter drugs, and consuming household
>cleaning products are also
>popular.  While these methods can work, the subject will call her
>friend and tell the friend
>that she just tried to commit suicide.  This leads to the hospital, a
>suicide watch, and
>in-patient commitment.  The subject will also be seeing a therapist.
>The reason for this is
>that the medication she is taking requires monitoring by a
>psychiatrist.  Popular brand
>names are Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, but they all are anti-depressants.
>Specifically they are
>selective seritonin reuptake inhibitors, in other words they work by
>increasing the pool of
>seritonin in the brain, thus reducing depression.  She will most
>likely not be taking the
>old school anti-depressants.  These so called MAO inhibitors have so
>many side effects that
>is usually prescribed when nothing else will work.  She will also need
>something for that
>hyperactivity, Ritalin being the drug of choice.  To summarize: she is
>currently on
>anti-depressants and is seeing a therapist due to depression and
>attempted suicide.  If you
>can come to this conclusion from your conversation, then you are in
>good shape.
>
>FAMILY HISTORY and CHILDHOOD:
>The subject will have had a relatively sheltered childhood with in a
>small town.  This can
>vary actually, she may in fact live in a city and may have one or both
>parents, who can have
>a varying amount of financial security.  Obviously, you want to find a
>female with rich
>parents.  Something goes horribly wrong.  The female will be rejected
>by her mother, who
>will continually disapprove of everything she does.  This will lead to
>continuos feelings of
>rejection and anxiety.  In an attempt to get attention she will latch
>on to anyone who
>approves of her and soothes the pain in her mind.  This is where the
>promiscuous sex comes
>in.  She uses sex as a tool to ease her mental pain, but this will not
>work.  No matter how
>much sex she has, how many boyfriends she gets, no matter how much she
>drinks, or smokes,
>the underlying pain always comes back.  She will do a good job
>covering it up, but she
>overcompensates, leading to exaggerated reactions.  If you spend
>enough time with the female
>you will see that she does not deal well with change.  Her personality
>will "break" for
>awhile, during which you will be treated to fits of screaming and
>crying.  During these
>episodes the female will be feeling completely alone.  If the episode
>last long enough she
>will try to commit suicide.  To her, physical pain is nothing compared
>to the mental torture
>she has to endure.  This also explains the need to carve her body, and
>do her own piercings.
>  The control she exerts on her body, and the pain she inflicts, gives
>her an escape.  To
>find out how closely the female fits in here requires good
>conversation skills.  Watch her
>body language and try to see what you can pick up.  Chances are, all
>this will hit dead on.
>
>FRIENDS:
>She will have many friends and acquaintances.  Her best friend will
>usually be fairly
>normal, so it would be good for you to question her alone.  Not to
>much in this area, take
>mental notes about who she likes and dislikes, it will be useful in
>the future if you try to
>start any sort of "relationship".
>
>SEXUAL ORIENTATION:
>The subject will almost always be bi-sexual.  Depending on how much
>she likes you, she will
>be willing to have a sex with you and two or more girls.  In fact,
>your best bet for group
>sex is with this personality type.  The other partners will usually be
>her friends, or
>someone she feels comfortable with.  Due to the sensitive nature of
>this topic, you should
>find a way to figure it out without direct questioning or until you've
>known the subject for
>awhile.
>
>After you've done a satisfactory interview you will know whether you
>have found the right
>person or not.  If you are sure you have a proper personality fix you
>can move on to the
>next section.  Otherwise, try somebody else, in the next section we
>talk about ways to
>increase your success.
>
>3.  EXPLOITATION
>
>To actually exploit this type of personality you must first find some
>candidate girls.  Here
>are some excellent locations:
>
>Boarding Schools for Girls: Basically these are psychiatric facilities
>for rich girls.  Try
>and find a party near the school, chances are some of the most
>lucrative finds will show up.
>If possible, through your own party (this is kind of extreme though).
>
>Rural High Schools:  Everyone knows people out in a rural setting have
>nothing to do.  Use
>this to your advantage by infiltrating the party scene.  You will
>undoubtedly find several
>targets.
>
>Colleges:  Less likely, due to the fact that someone as mentally
>disturbed as we want would
>most likely not make it to college (though there are exceptions).
>Worth a try any ways.
>Get into the party scene, go to bars around the college, frat parties
>are great, IF you can
>get in.
>
>Clubs and Bars:  Everyone who goes to these are underage.  Use this to
>your advantage.
>Profiling is harder in this setting, but if your good you should have
>no problem.
>
>What you do once you have found your target?  Well, I'm sure you can
>figure it out.
>Capitalize on the person for sex, money and drugs.  The more involved
>you get with the one
>girl, chances are you can get her friends too.  One thing to keep in
>mind though, you will
>either get a positive or negative reaction.  Discard the person if she
>responds negatively.
>  If you really want a particular girl, you can try, but with this
>personality, there is an
>immediate reaction.  If the reaction is positive, your in with about 5
>minutes effort.
>Otherwise, it will take much, much longer.  Don't bother, find another
>one.
>
>4.  CONCLUSION
>
>If you have completed this report you have all the necessary
>information to identify this
>personality.  Now all you need is practice, and lots of it.  A
>disregard for ethics is also
>helpful.  In no time you should be getting more sex than you know what
>to do with.


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>Envelope-to: happyusa-outgoing@ffwd.com
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>http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0200/rave.html
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>ummm *LOL*
>


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In a message dated 2/8/00 5:59:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< i tell you what, nicci is definitly roller girl, she's even got
 the baby t for it...btw, she wuz liein when she said she didn't
 know anything about devirginizin the bathroom, you can ask
 zenopiez or bree..i think the only room that hasn't been 
 devirginized is the mop closet... >>

I took a friggin shower dammut! thaz what the towel on my head wuz for!

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> i tell you what, nicci is definitly roller girl,
> she's even got
> the baby t for it...btw, she wuz liein when she said
> she didn't
> know anything about devirginizin the bathroom, you
> can ask
> zenopiez or bree..i think the only room that hasn't
> been 
> devirginized is the mop closet...

Uhm... Stevie... Dunno what house yer livin in.. Me
and Bri don't know shit that happened...

-Opez and Bri

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my computer officially blows goats.  i lost my bookmark file... anyone know 
how to get that back?  there were somewhere around 100-150 various useless 
things that i would really like to have back.

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>>http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0200/rave.html
>>
>>ummm *LOL*

cracke out old bat...  im still rolling in laughter =)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251789217

Note the hands behind the boy.. THE HANDS I TELL YOU!!  THE HANDS!


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In a message dated 2/8/00 12:20:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
cellophane_808@hotmail.com writes:

<< 
 >>http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0200/rave.html
 >>
 >>ummm *LOL*
 
 cracke out old bat...  im still rolling in laughter =) >>

Daaamn!  I wish my bible-thumpin Aunt Joyce (and the rest of my relatives!) 
were more like Sister Taffy.  That'd make those holidays and family 
get-togethers a lot more fun.  =)

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chad clary wrote:

> >>http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0200/rave.html
> >>
> >>ummm *LOL*
>
> cracke out old bat...  im still rolling in laughter =)

If you look around a bit more, you'll notice that landoverbaptist.org
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 20:10:20 2000
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I think the governemnt needs to get out of the marriage business.  Really, 
what does it matter if people are getting married or not?  It's not like the 
government needs to promote "family" values so that this country can grow 
and tame the wild west.  It's not like we need to promote population 
growth...we actually need to do the opposite.

And if I were to get married I wouldn't look to have my marriage validated 
by a governmental agency.  The marriage is between myself and the person I'm 
marrying...and that's it.  And if you are getting married for any other 
reason outside of love then you shouldn't be.

Being gay myself I'm not so much bothered that our federal government has 
decided that my love for someone is less valid than a guy and a girl.  What 
bothers me is that they are sticking their nose into this arena at all.  
Yeah, politicians as moral leaders, that's a great fucking idea.

PJ


>From: "chad clary" <cellophane_808@hotmail.com>
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>Subject: [mw] NRR: defense of marriage act
>Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 02:04:33 EST
>
>
>i have to write a paper about this act and i am inquiring what your 
>opinions
>are about it.  it basically states that: "a state does not have to 
>recognize
>a same-sex marriage from another state or any resulting rights or claims."
>it also defines marriage as: "the union between one man and one woman."
>this is a federal law that was passed by a 342-67 vote in 1996.  the paper
>is about the justness, or fairness and validity of this law and whether or
>not it should be allowed to stand.
>
>thanks in advance
>
>peace-
>chad
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 20:21:00 2000
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heh,

You know whats interesting is that my room mate found this URL (I am sure he 
wasnt the first ever to find the site but he did start this current 
spreading) last night and posted it to puraves.  Kaser is on puraves and 
forwarded it to happyusa.  Then Michael forwards it here to mw (and maybe to 
pb-cle too?), right as I was going to share the humor with you all.

I wonder how many of you have already forwarded it to other mailing lists or 
simply emailed it to a friend.  Anyway it just surprised me how fast 
something like this can spread. I would guess over 1,000 people have already 
been affected by it in a non-trivial way...  And this stemming all from the 
simple whim of one person...


(I wonder how this email will affect its continuation if at all)

Adam I's point yesterday about viewing behaviors and patterns and 
information as jostling for survival (and trying to reproduce) within a 
"culture-space" is a little more understandable to me for some reason...

cybertastic!
adam


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>>
>>http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0200/rave.html
>>
>>ummm *LOL*
>>
>
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forgive me if anyone has already posted this url..

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0200/rave.html

they threw a party called GET YOUR ASS TO CHURCH

"""One of the young people, Skylar Mayes, stood and said with a gleam in her 
eye, "Let's have a rave!" (Well, I knew that "rave" meant,  "to declaim 
loudly and act with extreme enthusiasm," but I had know idea that these young 
folk were already accustomed to speaking in tongues!) These Angels brought 
tears of joy to my eyes. "A RAVE FOR JESUS!" we all yelled in unison."""


oh gawd
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http://www.upherbutt.com

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 21:08:11 2000
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gemini, pisces, and sagittarius...

although, jaimmie and heather are sagittarius


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i'm stupid.

just gemini and pisces are missing, i guess.

chad


On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, the man who fears change wrote:

+gemini, pisces, and sagittarius...
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+sunshine when i'm gone."
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>
>If you look around a bit more, you'll notice that landoverbaptist.org
>is not a serious site.  :)


OH MY GOD SAY IT ISN'T SO.  thos NRA banners didn't tip me off ;P


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I'm about 10 feet away from you, heard the conversation that probably
spawned this post, and i still don't get it.
huh?

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> gemini, pisces, and sagittarius...
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michael knight wrote:

> http://www.upherbutt.com

I dunno... the best porn site idea I've ever had is not even
registered yet!

www.angelporn.com
"The Closest you'll ever Get to Heaven!"

You could even have a special edition 'fallen angels' issue!



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Caught the 'teaser' listening to my daily dose of afternoon talk.

Channel 7 news report tonight on 'Afterhours clubs' filled with ecstacy... Is your teenager safe?

If this is related towards chicago... where are they?  When do they happen besides afterhours bars in wicker park like borderline... and which ones admit teenagers... or is it one of those 'one-two' punch media blitz gauged at stomping out raves in general... Prepare yourself for some 'credible journalism.' and Tim Wiegel murdering the sports cast as usual.

check your local listings and be amused i guess.

entro - I be aquarius and I got big jugs.


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best entertainment in chicago would have to be karma seeing all the jocks &
ginos on E
dancing wobbling around like sloths with no shirts on.  it's kinda funny
until they wobble into you
and you get all their slime and who knows what on you.

-m

----- Original Message -----
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> Caught the 'teaser' listening to my daily dose of afternoon talk.
>
> Channel 7 news report tonight on 'Afterhours clubs' filled with ecstacy...
Is your teenager safe?
>
> If this is related towards chicago... where are they?  When do they happen
besides afterhours bars in wicker park like borderline... and which ones
admit teenagers... or is it one of those 'one-two' punch media blitz gauged
at stomping out raves in general... Prepare yourself for some 'credible
journalism.' and Tim Wiegel murdering the sports cast as usual.
>
> check your local listings and be amused i guess.
>
> entro - I be aquarius and I got big jugs.
>
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[>best entertainment in chicago would have to be karma seeing all
[>the jocks & ginos on E dancing wobbling around like sloths with no
[>shirts on.  it's kinda funny until they wobble into you and you
[>get all their slime and who knows what on you.

god damnit!  when i went to montreal last may, i went to swirl 5... it
was gigantic... like, no less than 3-4 thousand people, and at least 2
thousand were gino/jock types with their shirts off, "wobbling around
like sloths" as you so accurately described, bumping into people...
jumping on stage and stripping..

i mean, come on!  why don't the girls take their shirts off and wobble
around when they are on e???!?  and jump on stage and strip!?!?

-jonathan

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In a message dated 02/08/1970, 3:42:07 PM, djgruve@home.net writes:
<<best entertainment in chicago would have to be karma seeing all the jocks &
ginos on E
dancing wobbling around like sloths with no shirts on.  it's kinda funny
until they wobble into you
and you get all their slime and who knows what on you.>>


It's kinda amuzing to watch "tough guys" with silver glittery shirts and glow 
sticks. No way bro...you guys don't look cool. But who am I to stop one from 
having fun...right?

Next week @ Exit club...sexy school girl unoform night!! Awww yeah! Bondage 
and freaks galore!!

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Y'know.. 

I think it's kinda strange that MTV was actually showing videos! I rarely 
seee videos on that station anymore. I can see a Real Road Rules marathon....

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you can turn it to BET for the finer things in life and watch reruns of the
jeffersons

-that skinny white guy from that wack full scrotum crew

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> Y'know..
>
> I think it's kinda strange that MTV was actually showing videos! I rarely
> seee videos on that station anymore. I can see a Real Road Rules
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Whats up everyone, my friend wont be in detroit till March 2nd till the 7th. 
So If anyone has info on freak hall on the 3rd.. like directions to where it 
is and stuff.. My friend's e-mail adress is Moongirlie21@cs.com So if u have 
anything on it e-mail it to her or post it and i'll send it to her.. well 
peace..

Pete (DJ Strike)

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>Whats up everyone, im not from the m-w area. actally im from the new 
>england
>area and a member of B-R. But my friend is going down to detroit Feb. 21 to
>March 3rd or something like that. She wants to go We Are Twisted on the
>26th. I am just looking to get some info on this event for her like
>directions to where it is, etc... She's really cool and i'll give anyone 
>her
>e-mail address, if they want talk to her or meet up with here in detriot or
>something. Well im out...
>
>Peace, love... and all that good stuff =)
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I liked this sooooo much that I had to post it to the
rest o my friends.
especially stevie t, cuz he's sexy

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> From: MonsieurBob@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 18:40:54 EST
> To: stl-raves@egroups.com
> Subject: [stl] Re: this upcoming weekend - what
> youre doing
> 
> 
> AND JON GOTTIS GONNA BE THERE TO DROP SOME HARDK0RE
> JUNGLE ON YOUR ASS!  YOU 
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> GUNNA MAKE YOU HIS BITCH!
> 
> jon gotti will be spinning jungle music at Addicted
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> wanna get the fuck down, 
> check out gotti.
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and the novel continues...........

--- RaverBoyy 2000 <raverboyy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, folks!
> 
> I'm RaverBoyy2000 -- AKA by my 'rents as Blair
> Donovan.
> I currently residing in Chi-Town but I heard about
> the
> PURaves list, STLouis list, and other Indy lists
> from
> a friend of mine going to Purdue (hey, Cheryl,
> girlie-
> baby!!!)  Anyways, my interests right now is music,
> house and techno, raving, and, alas, school.  And I
> dare say in that order.
> 
> I'm a firm believer that techno/house and moderate
> drug
> use go hand-in-hand, so if you're looking for
> warriors
> in an army of anti-drug users, find someone else. 
> If
> you need a warrior in the anti-drug ABUSERS... sign
> me up!
> I believe there is a difference between drug use and
> drug ABUSE!  So there!
> 
> Anyway.  Alittle about myself (because it kinda'
> correlates
> to my review).  My first party was ALL THAT JAZZ
> back in
> September of 1999.  I had heard from Cheryl about
> the
> rave scene.  She, herself, goes only sparatically. 
> But,
> she took me there and I HAD A BLAST!  Tip #1:  If
> you take
> a newbie to a party -- DO NOT LET THEM DO DRUGS!!!! 
> If
> they do, and they "get hooked on parties" chances
> are its
> because of the drugs.  Cheryl wouldn't let me "roll"
> that
> night.  She didn't let me roll until New School
> Science in
> indy back in December.
> 
> Anyway, ALL THAT JAZZ was amazing!  I know alot of
> people
> bitch about the Dolton Expo Center, but, I'm new so
> I like
> it.  It's hot, sweaty, and dirty!
> 
> So, when I heard that A.T.J was a 3-part "series"
> and JAZZA
> MATAZZ was the 2nd installment, well, I HAD TO GO!!!
>  With DJs
> like Halo, Cari Lekenbush (sp??), Boo Williams, Paul
> Anthony,
> and (IMO) the coolest name in the MidWest (Chocolate
> The
> Freaky Afronaut), Iknew I was in for a treat. And
> I did.  Here's my experience:
> 
> First, I show up about 9PM.  I just KNEW that it
> would be
> packed and I didn't want to wait in a long line! 
> Esp.
> in this cold!  To my surprise, there werent' many
> people
> there.  In fact, a line didn't start forming until
> about
> 11PM or so.  Hmmm...   I was kinda' worried.  I
> didn't
> want to roll until 3AM or so, that way I got a good
> feel
> for the music (I'm still learning).
> 
> The security was groovy.  Not too mean.  Not too
> nice.  Just
> right.  I swear they saw some of my friends bumping
> up a
> couple of times and didn't do anything about it. 
> Hmmm....
> I don't know if that's cool or not.
> 
> Anyway, the venue (an oldschool space I guess) was
> the PHOTON,
> an old lazertag place where some girl died 3 years
> earlier,
> I heard.  Spooky.  No acid tonight, that's for sure.
>  Lots
> of places to run and hide and make-out.  Not enough
> room
> to dance.  Too many slanted ramps.  Couldn't really
> see the
> DJ, unless you were on the second level across from
> the
> DJ booth.
> 
> Now, the music....
> 
> The first DJ in the main room played some cool,
> jazzy
> melodic house.  Nothing to "jackin'" or hard.  In
> fact,
> me and my boy Mikey were naming off tapes that we
> heard
> each song on.   "Oooh, that's on NEED ANOTHER PLAN! 
> Oooh,
> that;s Ian Pooley's Live @ TRAXX!"  It was fun, but
> I
> was hoping to be educated, not caterred to.
> 
> My excitement was getting unbearable as midnight
> approached.
> Halo (one of my favorites) was supposed to play. 
> But,
> alas, he was a no-show (bastard!).  Who was to play,
> then???
> The cat with the coolest name got on the decks!!! 
> He
> started with some hard, funky up-front house, some
> more
> commercial stuff, you know, nothing too underground.
>  But
> it was fun (he, too, played a song off of Ian
> Pooley's
> LIE @ TRAXX tape "Electronic Funk" I think).  Lots
> of
> cuts and tricks.  Shit was dope!  then, he started
> getting
> harder and harder.  "Techno with a dab of
> progression",
> Mikey tells me.  Man, Chocolate is tha' SHIT!  BOOK
> THIS
> BITCH MORE OFTEN!!! I managed to talk to him later
> and
> gave him my addy for a tape.  I heard he's on this
> list
> so if he is PLEASE SEND A TAPE!!!   ;-)
> 
> But, no matter how bad-ass Chocolate was, when Boo
> came on,
> all hell broke loose!  Man, THAT IS SOME HOUSE
> MUSIC!!!!
> Smooth, deep, funky, melodic...  You name it, that
> fat
> bastard's GOT it!  I was in a sweaty heep by the end
> of
> his set.  Education has never been sweeter!  But, by
> this time, the second room was up-n-running and
> Frankie
> Vega was giving it to us HARD!  The sound was
> amazing
> in the second room but that's probably because the
> room
> was TOO DAMNED SMALL!!!!!!!!!!!  I don't like
> getting
> bumped into every other minute, but with Frankie's
> "tech-house" and techno, it was well worth it! 
> Promoters,
> BOOK THIS MAN MORE OFTEN!!!!!!
> 
> Well, I won't go into the rest of the ordeal,
> because it's
> drug-related.  Took a roll.  Gave a seabreeze. 
> Rubbed a
> back or three.  Made new "rave Friends", etc..
> 
> All-in-all, well worththe $20 price tag!  My next
> party will probably be DeepLove in Indy.  I hear
> Mark Farina is THA BOMB!  This two little Indy kids
> (Chad and Gang Related (???)) kept handing me
> DEEP LOVE fliers.  If they're on this list...
> WASSUP?!  you've convinced me.  ;-)
> 
> Well, I didn't realize that the e-mail was THIS
> long.
> I better go, now.  Peace and Rave On!
> 
> -RaverBoyy2000
> Raving for the 21st Century!
>
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If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white men
and women, or Asian men and women?  
Jerry

_______________________________________________________________________________
Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!

Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:

> 
> Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> 
> 
> Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
>                                                     / \
> 5% Network                                         L   L
> http://www.nge.org
> http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> 
>     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> 
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> 
> > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > 
> > > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > > REAL.  Peace.
> > 
> > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
> > discussions, but I do find this interesting.  I have heard something
> > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
> > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > 
> > Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
> > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
> > means...
> > 
> > Does this mean:
> > 
> > a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
> > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
> > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
> > synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
> > a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
> > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
> > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
> > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
> > the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
> > that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > c) Something totally different that I don't know...
> > 
> > 
> > 
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honkey lips.
slantey eyes.

At 05:02 PM 2/8/00 -0600, you wrote:
>If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white men
>and women, or Asian men and women?
>Jerry
>
>___________________________________________________________________________ 
>____
>Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>
>Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>
>On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>
> >
> > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >
> >
> > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> > allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                     / \
> > 5% Network                                         L   L
> > http://www.nge.org
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> > ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> >
> > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > >
> > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
> > > discussions, but I do find this interesting.  I have heard something
> > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
> > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > >
> > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
> > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
> > > means...
> > >
> > > Does this mean:
> > >
> > > a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
> > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
> > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
> > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
> > > a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
> > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
> > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
> > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
> > > the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
> > > that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > c) Something totally different that I don't know...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -
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Hey Jim, if you're there, this is Will from No Place Like Home. I don't
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Asian men and women are Original(Black) People.  White people are made
from Original People.  Check Anthropology and Genetics.  Peace.


Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
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    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:

> If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white men
> and women, or Asian men and women?  
> Jerry
> 
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> 
> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> 
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > 
> > 
> > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> > allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                     / \
> > 5% Network                                         L   L
> > http://www.nge.org
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > 
> >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> > ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > 
> > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> > 
> > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > 
> > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural".  Everything real is
> > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > > 
> > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email with religious
> > > discussions, but I do find this interesting.  I have heard something
> > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I assume you're a
> > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > > 
> > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost every religious current
> > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask exactly what this
> > > means...
> > > 
> > > Does this mean:
> > > 
> > > a) That God is an active principle of the universe as opposed to
> > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the universe (the way many
> > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > > 
> > > or
> > > 
> > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply 'patterns' in the world...
> > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will.  This view seems to be
> > > a bit too modern to be part of something as old as Islam, but I
> > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern information-theory
> > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc... that these things are
> > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient patterns that live in
> > > the space between people as opposed to within them.. entities
> > > that live in culture-space instead of brain-space.)
> > > 
> > > or
> > > 
> > > c) Something totally different that I don't know...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -
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My question is why does it always have to be about
race.
Personally I'm a person who has both white and brown
heritage, and I hate it when people try to pin things
on color.
The thing is, yes a persons ancestry and culture
should be explored and learned personally, but why
should anyone else give two shits.
bottom line
IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER SO DONT POINT IT OUT!!!!

--- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> 
> Peace.  Because its rare I see two caucasians battle
> lyrically, except for
> Sole vs. El P on seperate records.  Peace.
> 
> 
> Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
> H
> allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
> |
> http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
> A--.--A
>                                                    
> / \
> 5% Network                                         L
>   L
> http://www.nge.org
> http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> 
>     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
> ++++
> ++++ see
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> 
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, Winn/Nujack . wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Caucasian or original,what would this matter just
> out of curiousity?
> > 
> > easy,Nujack
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> > >Reply-To: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> > >To: Kidentropy@aol.com
> > >CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] i am a raver.
> > >Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:37:23 -0500 (EST)
> > >
> > >
> > >"Mad Lion, hold tight....."
> > >Was the guy who wanted to battle caucasian or
> Original?  I can C
> > >how peoples with weaker skills would try to
> battle at a "rave", but
> > >won't battle at a bonified hip-hop venue.  If you
> look at the
> > >anatomy of "battling", it is a device that is
> meant to replace
> > >PHYSICAL BATTLES because of people with no
> knowledge of self, or no
> > >love for self, fighting and killing each other. 
> There for the
> > >battle is supposed to be MENTAL RITES OF PASSAGE.
>  I understand U
> > >was giggin' at the time, and that if the guy
> wanted to battle, he
> > >should wait for the appropriate venue.  However,
> mc battling is not
> > >intrinsically "evil".  Its just training and
> sport, if done
> > >responsibly that is.  Peace.
> > >
> > >
> > >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                      
>    H
> > >allah@metalab.unc.edu                            
>    |
> > >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
> A--.--A
> > >                                                 
>    / \
> > >5% Network                                       
>  L   L
> > >http://www.nge.org
> > >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > >
> > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> ++++
> > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
> sig ++++
> > >++++ see
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > >
> > >On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think I have these sudden bursts of energy
> every six months or so... 
> > >when
> > > > the planets collide just right or something...
> but the last month was an
> > > > affirmation of sorts.  I had been skimming the
> whole thread discussion 
> > >this
> > > > afternoon (all 257 messages) and I saw this
> little thread about hip hop 
> > >and
> > > > the like.  It solified more in me of what was
> demonstrated at the 
> > >pinnacle of
> > > > the evening last night.
> > > >
> > > > I am a motherfucking raver.
> > > >
> > > > The main incident started around 2 am last
> night at Delta in Madison.  I 
> > >got
> > > > up on the decks and started to go through
> plates and what not... I 
> > >decided at
> > > > the request of a couple of cats that wanted me
> to mc... to get on the 
> > >mic and
> > > > bump a familiar lyric thats become a fucking
> mantra in my head... it 
> > >just
> > > > feels good to say it over and over again...
> "skin deep but how deep is 
> > >skin
> > > > especially when the soul's the thing your
> getting in."  It'd been the 
> > >first
> > > > time in a while I'd gotten to take my girl to
> a nice gig that wasn't all
> > > > jenky.  Roadtrips always spark up weird
> convo's and inspiration.  So I 
> > >was
> > > > amped off the whole situation.  Not to mention
> the booth setup, needles,
> > > > mixers, soundsystem, and space were just
> fucking a-class.  The fucking
> > > > monitors (dual... one high, one low with
> variable loudness) combined 
> > >with
> > > > everything else gave me this tranquil, giddy
> feeling in the booth... It 
> > >was
> > > > fucking boss.  i dip into my bag, play the
> music that I listen to over 
> > >and
> > > > over in my shitty apartment keeping me sane,
> and everyone is just 
> > >smiling and
> > > > screaming... felt good, as usual.  it was a
> mother fucking party.
> > > >
> > > > then this kid comes up to the booth,
> threatening the whole concept.
> > > >
> > > > "Yo, my friend wants to battle you on the mic
> right now, yo."
> > > > "Now?"
> > > > "Yeah, man, are you DOWN?"
> > > > "I'm like dj'ing right now."
> > > > "Yeah, don't you wanna battle my boy?"
> > > >
> > > > I'm sitting here perplexed... I'm lost in self
> expression... something 
> > >I've
> > > > fought really fucking hard for in this
> thing... something I get maybe 
> > >once
> > > > every six months when I meet a string of
> promoters like Michael from 
> > >American
> > > > cheese, the kids from stratus, and Dave from
> Madlove to name a few.
> > > >
> > > > and this mother fucker is invading my sanity
> asking to fucking battle...
> > > >
> > > > battle battle battle.  fight fight fight.  ego
> ego ego.
> > > >
> > > > If the rave scene was founded on and thrived
> on a concept of peace love 
> > >unity
> > > > and respect... no matter how abused the
> concept.  WE HAVE SURVIVED.  
> > >I've
> > > > been raving for close to fucking eight or so
> years.
> > > >
> > > > so shoot me for what I'm about to say.
> > > >
> > > > Where is the hip hop scene right now, and why
> are you 'so-called' b-boys
> > > > attending something that threatens the
> aesthetic of your craft.  The 
> > >simple
> > > > fact is the hip hop scene that these kids
> think they are down with... 
> > >doesn't
> > > > welcome them... or they can't suck it dry and
> make cash from it.  Or 
> > >maybe
> 
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"Jerome C. Austriaco II" wrote:

> If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white men
> and women, or Asian men and women?
> Jerry

Human beings were all originally dark-skinned.  White, asian,
red, etc. "races" (race is a rather stupid term since the actual
DNA difference is *very* small.. of course we share something
like 50% of our genes with trees so...) all were local variations
that occurred when dark-skinned people migrated out of
Africa.  At least this is the view currently supported by most
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>If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white
>men and women, or Asian men and women? 

    Why, The Devil of course.. Where have you been? 


                                Smash the honkey oppressor!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 23:37:42 2000
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Ok, lets see if that is true jes
ATOMLY, SHAVE THE TOP OFF, GET SOME BUSINESS
KICKEN!!!!!
MULET
MULET
MULET
MULET


--- jes <jes@pubnix.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> the moral of this story is that if you nag atomly
> enough, he might just do
> what you want him to.
> 
> yes that's right, the quote list is up. rather than
> sending an attachment
> to the list and getting bitched at, i put it online,
> in two formats
> nonetheless.
> 
> to view: http://www.pubnix.org/~jes/quotes.html
> to download: http://www.pubnix.org/~jes/quotes.doc
> 
> there. now there is proof of how pathetic we are.
> oh, joy!
> 
> /j
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 08 23:41:09 2000
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 all newscasters are punkass mother fuckers! 
--

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:32:51    Kidentropy wrote:
>Caught the 'teaser' listening to my daily dose of afternoon talk.
>
>Channel 7 news report tonight on 'Afterhours clubs' filled with ecstacy... Is your teenager safe?
>
>If this is related towards chicago... where are they?  When do they happen besides afterhours bars in wicker park like borderline... and which ones admit teenagers... or is it one of those 'one-two' punch media blitz gauged at stomping out raves in general... Prepare yourself for some 'credible journalism.' and Tim Wiegel murdering the sports cast as usual.
>
>check your local listings and be amused i guess.
>
>entro - I be aquarius and I got big jugs.
>
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no one cares stevie
but I guess your not gonna get this anyway

--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/5/00 6:39:50 PM Pacific
> Standard Time, te_one@yahoo.com 
> writes:
> 
> << besides which, it's usually some
>  kid tryin to flex their "dope likwid" (learned at
> the knee of Lord of
>  the Rave StevieT no doubt)..    >>
> 
> altho, i am a liquid master, my teachers were:
> colleen from pittsburgh, lisa 
> lee
> in new york, yoshi in seattle, and kurt aka dj
> release in cleveland...y'see 
> true
> dancers are not cocky and will always respect their
> teachers and give props
> where props are due...it's just like martial arts
> (from which breakdancing was
> inspired from...i should post my interview of frosty
> freeze from rock steady 
> crew)
> ...the wack ones are the ones that go: oh, nobody
> inspired me i created all my
> moves myself...wrong, everybody starts as a poser
> and develops their own 
> style 
> from there...
> 
> the new prodigy is kool-aid in indy...which shall
> also be the next rave 
> mekka...
> 
> i find your "flex dope liquid" story very
> unbelievable since most liquid 
> masters
> don't really show off that much...i know i
> don't...liquid is not "battle 
> based"...it 
> is based in the heart in tune with the mind and the
> soul and the rhythym...i 
> know 
> i've only shown my moves to a selected few...that i
> have hand chosen...and 
> they 
> in turn have passed it on to others...it is a very
> underground thing...
> 
> lol, i even showed michael knight one move a long
> time ago...the peanut jar...
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 00:04:32 2000
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 um, what the fuck did this mean? 
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 08:58:20    Steviet069 wrote:
>woo hoo, i dont hafta go in til noon today, so i get to
>stuff y'allz mailboxes w/ more of my "negative" banter...
>
>In a message dated 2/8/0 6:48:53 AM, nhgarlan wrote:
>
><<Boogie Knights Invite you to our First Birthday Party>>
>
>funny, we just watched "boogie nights" a bit ago...and wuz
>thinkin bout doin a "porn party" here...
>
>i tell you what, nicci is definitly roller girl, she's even got
>the baby t for it...btw, she wuz liein when she said she didn't
>know anything about devirginizin the bathroom, you can ask
>zenopiez or bree..i think the only room that hasn't been 
>devirginized is the mop closet...
>
>anybody got connects to a cheap digital cam?
>
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AND IM PLAYIN TOO GAWD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--- Ruby Bagonia <rubybuby@yahoo.com> wrote:
> St. Louis gots it goin on Saturday Feb 12th with the
> 
> Supastars of Love's 6 year Valentine Anniversary
> party
> "Addicted to Love" with Space Girl, Tommie Sunshine,
> Dan Deliverance, Stan Doublin, AC, All Time Hi, and
> mo'
> TJ Richter as Cupid, and lots of people loose in the
> pants and ready to dance.  This party will kick ass.
> http://www.superstarsoflove.com     #314-994-1114
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> U suck, we rock.
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"i'm tellin you, man..my mother's mother's mother-"
"yo motha's motha's motha?!?!  man this ain't ROOTS mothafucka!"

i for one, don't know what the fuck my heritage is.  cos if people ask me, 
fuck i was born in brockton, ma and that is when the Life Of Michael 
started.  i love my family and all, but for fuck's sake the only relatives 
i have that influenced how i turned out were the old p&m.

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allow me to replay for you that missed it, the greatest one-line post in 
the history of mw-raves.

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So were all related right?

--- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> 
> Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
> White people are made
> from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
> Genetics.  Peace.
> 
> 
> Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
> H
> allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
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> A--.--A
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> 
>     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
> ++++
> ++++ see
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> 
> > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
> does that make white men
> > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> > Jerry
> > 
> >
>
_______________________________________________________________________________
> > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > 
> > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> > 
> > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
> person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
>     H
> > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
>     |
> > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
>  A--.--A
> > >                                                 
>    / \
> > > 5% Network                                      
>   L   L
> > > http://www.nge.org
> > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > 
> > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> ++++
> > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
> sig ++++
> > > ++++ see
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
> Everything real is
> > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
> with religious
> > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
> I have heard something
> > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
> assume you're a
> > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > > > 
> > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
> every religious current
> > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
> exactly what this
> > > > means...
> > > > 
> > > > Does this mean:
> > > > 
> > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
> universe as opposed to
> > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
> universe (the way many
> > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > > > 
> > > > or
> > > > 
> > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> 'patterns' in the world...
> > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
> This view seems to be
> > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
> old as Islam, but I
> > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
> information-theory
> > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
> that these things are
> > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
> patterns that live in
> > > > the space between people as opposed to within
> them.. entities
> > > > that live in culture-space instead of
> brain-space.)
> > > > 
> > > > or
> > > > 
> > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
> know...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 00:19:22 2000
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 It's really none of my business, but it seems that stevie must be having some sexual frustration. Who the hell cares where someone decides to fuck? It should really be none of anyone elses business besides the consenting parties. To post this in public is a shame.
 Reading this also generated a bad vision in my head of a slimy troll (stevie) trying to listen to bedroom doors at night. Get a fucking life slimy troll.
 p.s.
why would anyone decide to live with stevie? well, whoever it is, they must hate themselves quite a bit.  
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:11:20    IHavelssuez wrote:
>In a message dated 2/7/00 9:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
>Steviet069@aol.com writes:
>
><< thank God for my porn*star roomies: zenopiez, nicci, and 
> oh yah, the newest one: bri!!...or my broke ass would've been
> evicted!!
> 
> lol, nicci has already managed to devirginize the bathroom as 
> well as their bedroom now within a 48 hour period!! >>
>
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> Asian men and women are Original(Black) People.  White people are made
> from Original People.  Check Anthropology and Genetics.  Peace.

Peace.  You are funny.  Peace.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 00:59:45 2000
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 Actually, the migration out of Africa theroy is not the current view, unless you've just steped out of a time machine from the 1950's. There is now quite a bit of new evidence suggesting that our ancestors evolved from not one origin, but many. Anthropology is an (forgive the pun) evloving science.
 Oh and by the way, we share more like 90% of our DNA with trees.  
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:30:27   Adam Ierymenko wrote:
>"Jerome C. Austriaco II" wrote:
>
>> If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white men
>> and women, or Asian men and women?
>> Jerry
>
>Human beings were all originally dark-skinned.  White, asian,
>red, etc. "races" (race is a rather stupid term since the actual
>DNA difference is *very* small.. of course we share something
>like 50% of our genes with trees so...) all were local variations
>that occurred when dark-skinned people migrated out of
>Africa.  At least this is the view currently supported by most
>of the anthropological evidence.
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does spring depress everyone as much as it does me...now I know, it's still 
winter but spring is just too fuckin close and already I am feeling the 
efects start to wear on me...it's always this time of year I wanna kill 
people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone hate valentines day as much 
as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark holidays with no real point 
except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate it...why did my mom have 
to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I wanna go drink som whiskey but 
I have no money and I have to goto play rehearsal...did I mention being a 
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We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
the other is made from the Original.  Peace.

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> So were all related right?
> 
> --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
> > White people are made
> > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
> > Genetics.  Peace.
> > 
> > 
> > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
> > H
> > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
> > |
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
> > A--.--A
> >                                                    
> > / \
> > 5% Network                                         L
> >   L
> > http://www.nge.org
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > 
> >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
> > ++++
> > ++++ see
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > 
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> > 
> > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
> > does that make white men
> > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> > > Jerry
> > > 
> > >
> >
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > > 
> > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
> > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
> >     H
> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
> >     |
> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
> >  A--.--A
> > > >                                                 
> >    / \
> > > > 5% Network                                      
> >   L   L
> > > > http://www.nge.org
> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > > 
> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> > ++++
> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
> > sig ++++
> > > > ++++ see
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
> > Everything real is
> > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
> > with religious
> > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
> > I have heard something
> > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
> > assume you're a
> > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
> > every religious current
> > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
> > exactly what this
> > > > > means...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does this mean:
> > > > > 
> > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
> > universe as opposed to
> > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
> > universe (the way many
> > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > > > > 
> > > > > or
> > > > > 
> > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> > 'patterns' in the world...
> > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
> > This view seems to be
> > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
> > old as Islam, but I
> > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
> > information-theory
> > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
> > that these things are
> > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
> > patterns that live in
> > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
> > them.. entities
> > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
> > brain-space.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > or
> > > > > 
> > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
> > know...
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Jahzid Allah wrote:

> We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> the other is made from the Original.  Peace.

So you're saying your genes are more oldskool than mine?
:-)

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I didn't say Africa in any of my messages.  Black does not mean
"Africa".  In fact, Africa, Asia, and Europe are really one continent.  I
said Black People or the Original People made the Caucasians.  It was not
a "natural" occurence, it was Eugenics.  If it was "natural" like some
people advocate, then Asiatics in Alaska would be caucasian, which they
are not.  I am not Leonard Jeffries nor Michael Bradley.  Peace.

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  Actually, the migration out of Africa theroy is not the current view, unless you've just steped out of a time machine from the 1950's. There is now quite a bit of new evidence suggesting that our ancestors evolved from not one origin, but many. Anthropology is an (forgive the pun) evloving science.
>  Oh and by the way, we share more like 90% of our DNA with trees.  
> --
> 
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2000 18:30:27   Adam Ierymenko wrote:
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> >
> >> If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what does that make white men
> >> and women, or Asian men and women?
> >> Jerry
> >
> >Human beings were all originally dark-skinned.  White, asian,
> >red, etc. "races" (race is a rather stupid term since the actual
> >DNA difference is *very* small.. of course we share something
> >like 50% of our genes with trees so...) all were local variations
> >that occurred when dark-skinned people migrated out of
> >Africa.  At least this is the view currently supported by most
> >of the anthropological evidence.
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have you guys ever seen the video for "original nuttah", my friend used to 
see it on the box but i never did cos we only had mtv.  he said shy fx and 
uk apache dance around in black tank tops and it is hilarious.  is there 
like an mpeg of this somewhere?


>We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
>the other is made from the Original.  Peace.


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----- Original Message -----
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> In a message dated 02/08/1970, 3:42:07 PM, djgruve@home.net writes:
> <<best entertainment in chicago would have to be karma seeing all the
jocks &
> ginos on E
> dancing wobbling around like sloths with no shirts on.  it's kinda funny
> until they wobble into you
> and you get all their slime and who knows what on you.>>
>
>
> It's kinda amuzing to watch "tough guys" with silver glittery shirts and
glow
> sticks. No way bro...you guys don't look cool. But who am I to stop one
from
> having fun...right?
>
> Next week @ Exit club...sexy school girl unoform night!! Awww yeah!
Bondage
> and freaks galore!!

phil we are there!  maybe you can dress up in your lil skirt and have some
beefy momma
spank that ass around.  i would pay to see that!



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[--Adam Ierymenko wrote--]
[>New-skewl genome reprezent!$#!%!!

to whom it may concern:

please add that to the mw-raves quote list.  thank you.

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At 08:13 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
>the other is made from the Original.  Peace.

are you implying that white people are better because they're the new and
improved version? 

or are you implying that white people are inferior, because they "weren't
around first?"

are you just trolling for flames or are you really that narrow-minded?

I guess I don't care either way.  nor should anyone else on the list.

end of thread.

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Not only my genes, but my mentality.  Peace.

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:

> Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> 
> So you're saying your genes are more oldskool than mine?
> :-)
> 
> New-skewl genome reprezent!$#!%!!
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you speak the truth brother...most of them are from the burbs...and they =
think
driving all the way to the city..getting fucked up on rolls at Karma, et =
al.
is the best fuckin' thing in the world....till they have to drive their a=
ss
all the way back out to park forest and orland park and shit....i speak f=
rom
experience..i'm a south burbie...i know how they are....

peace n cheers

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ginos on E
dancing wobbling around like sloths with no shirts on.  it's kinda funny
until they wobble into you
and you get all their slime and who knows what on you.

-m

----- Original Message -----
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> Caught the 'teaser' listening to my daily dose of afternoon talk.
>
> Channel 7 news report tonight on 'Afterhours clubs' filled with ecstacy=
=2E..
Is your teenager safe?
>
> If this is related towards chicago... where are they?  When do they hap=
pen
besides afterhours bars in wicker park like borderline... and which ones
admit teenagers... or is it one of those 'one-two' punch media blitz gaug=
ed
at stomping out raves in general... Prepare yourself for some 'credible
journalism.' and Tim Wiegel murdering the sports cast as usual.
>
> check your local listings and be amused i guess.
>
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Peace.  No I have personally knowledged that yet.  Which version of the
Original Nuttah is it, the Original or the darker versions?  I have the
original repress on vinyl.  Peace.

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> have you guys ever seen the video for "original nuttah", my friend used to 
> see it on the box but i never did cos we only had mtv.  he said shy fx and 
> uk apache dance around in black tank tops and it is hilarious.  is there 
> like an mpeg of this somewhere?
> 
> 
> >We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> >the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
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> kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
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Peace.  They ask me questions about what I teach, so I told them.  If you
consider that trolling, so be it.  It doesn't matter to me, just as long
as I am not misrepresented.  I am here to discuss
jungle/drum+bass/hip-hop/breakbeat and civilization if any wants to
discuss that also.  Peace.


Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

> At 08:13 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> >the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> 
> are you implying that white people are better because they're the new and
> improved version? 
> 
> or are you implying that white people are inferior, because they "weren't
> around first?"
> 
> are you just trolling for flames or are you really that narrow-minded?
> 
> I guess I don't care either way.  nor should anyone else on the list.
> 
> end of thread.
> 
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werd
last time i was at karma was for the moody records release night.
i was on the guestlist and i am good friends with 3/4 of the people
playing that night.  they wouldnt let me in cause i was wearing
'tennis shoes'   when i arrived angel alanis was outside waiting for
the valet to bring him his car, he was gonna go back inside for something
and the bouncer at the door wouldnt let him back in cause he was wearing
'tennis shoes' they wont let there own talent in??? WTF  KARMA IS SHADY
i thought there was gonna be a showdown between the bouncer and angle
uranus.
that would have been some shit since he was like 6'4 and angel is a lil shit
charles needs to get his shit together before he expects people to come
wearing
doc martins to dance in.  get better 'what they call' security bouncers
and ok. 'go play some basketball and comeback next week'

fuck karma

-gruve

----- Original Message -----
From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>

you speak the truth brother...most of them are from the burbs...and they
think
driving all the way to the city..getting fucked up on rolls at Karma, et al.
is the best fuckin' thing in the world....till they have to drive their ass
all the way back out to park forest and orland park and shit....i speak from
experience..i'm a south burbie...i know how they are....

peace n cheers

Fuego :P





"mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:
best entertainment in chicago would have to be karma seeing all the jocks &
ginos on E
dancing wobbling around like sloths with no shirts on.  it's kinda funny
until they wobble into you
and you get all their slime and who knows what on you.

-m

----- Original Message -----
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> Caught the 'teaser' listening to my daily dose of afternoon talk.
>
> Channel 7 news report tonight on 'Afterhours clubs' filled with ecstacy...
Is your teenager safe?
>
> If this is related towards chicago... where are they?  When do they happen
besides afterhours bars in wicker park like borderline... and which ones
admit teenagers... or is it one of those 'one-two' punch media blitz gauged
at stomping out raves in general... Prepare yourself for some 'credible
journalism.' and Tim Wiegel murdering the sports cast as usual.
>
> check your local listings and be amused i guess.
>
> entro - I be aquarius and I got big jugs.
>
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First off, I most definitely understand the difference between race and
ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the 5%er...why then do you refer
to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?  Why do you not just
refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths since we are all
related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know much about that culture,
but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers and Micranots are pretty
dope.
Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
Jerry

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:

> 
> We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> 
> > So were all related right?
> > 
> > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
> > > White people are made
> > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
> > > Genetics.  Peace.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
> > > H
> > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
> > > |
> > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
> > > A--.--A
> > >                                                    
> > > / \
> > > 5% Network                                         L
> > >   L
> > > http://www.nge.org
> > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > 
> > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
> > > ++++
> > > ++++ see
> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> > > 
> > > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
> > > does that make white men
> > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> > > > Jerry
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________________________________________
> > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > > > 
> > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
> > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
> > >     H
> > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
> > >     |
> > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
> > >  A--.--A
> > > > >                                                 
> > >    / \
> > > > > 5% Network                                      
> > >   L   L
> > > > > http://www.nge.org
> > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > > > 
> > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> > > ++++
> > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
> > > sig ++++
> > > > > ++++ see
> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
> > > Everything real is
> > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
> > > with religious
> > > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
> > > I have heard something
> > > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
> > > assume you're a
> > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
> > > every religious current
> > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
> > > exactly what this
> > > > > > means...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Does this mean:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
> > > universe as opposed to
> > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
> > > universe (the way many
> > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> > > 'patterns' in the world...
> > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
> > > This view seems to be
> > > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
> > > old as Islam, but I
> > > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
> > > information-theory
> > > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
> > > that these things are
> > > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
> > > patterns that live in
> > > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
> > > them.. entities
> > > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
> > > brain-space.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
> > > know...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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With all due respect, I think that you're the one being narrow-minded in
this case.  I hope this thread does not end anytime soon.  This is
educational.  This is a group where rational people can learn about other
cultures and subcultures.  Why does he sound like he's trolling for
flames?  Is it just because his point of view and way of thinking
radically differs from yours and you're not ready to hear it?
Jerry

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

> At 08:13 PM 2/8/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> >We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> >the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> 
> are you implying that white people are better because they're the new and
> improved version? 
> 
> or are you implying that white people are inferior, because they "weren't
> around first?"
> 
> are you just trolling for flames or are you really that narrow-minded?
> 
> I guess I don't care either way.  nor should anyone else on the list.
> 
> end of thread.
> 
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So are you saying the white man is superior, Allah?  Or did we (white 
people) evolve backwards and by coincidence happen to be the major source of 
intellectual thought for the last thousand years?  I dont see a lot of 
science or math being done is Africa these days.

Of course I havent seen a white sprinter place above 4th at the 
International level for the last couple of decades either...

BTW, I dont think evolution occured quite the way you claim it did (black 
and Asian=original, white=derivative) but I am sure we are reading different 
journals...

adam

PS:(you like to stir up controversy dont you andre ;)  I know, its fun!)

>From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>Reply-To: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>To: "Jerome C. Austriaco II" <jaustria@students.depaul.edu>
>CC: Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:20:53 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>Asian men and women are Original(Black) People.  White people are made
>from Original People.  Check Anthropology and Genetics.  Peace.
>
>
>Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
>allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
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 Hi.. I was wondering if anyone else had ever had problems trying
 to order clothes from Auraze? I normally used to buy them when 
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Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:

> First off, I most definitely understand the difference between race and
> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the 5%er...why then do you refer
> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?  Why do you not just
> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths since we are all
> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know much about that culture,
> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers and Micranots are pretty
> dope.
> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> Jerry
> 
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> 
> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > 
> > We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is Original,
> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> > 
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> > 
> > > So were all related right?
> > > 
> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
> > > > White people are made
> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
> > > > H
> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
> > > > |
> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
> > > > A--.--A
> > > >                                                    
> > > > / \
> > > > 5% Network                                         L
> > > >   L
> > > > http://www.nge.org
> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > > 
> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
> > > > ++++
> > > > ++++ see
> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
> > > > does that make white men
> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> > > > > Jerry
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________________________________________
> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
> > > >     H
> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
> > > >     |
> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
> > > >  A--.--A
> > > > > >                                                 
> > > >    / \
> > > > > > 5% Network                                      
> > > >   L   L
> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> > > > ++++
> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
> > > > sig ++++
> > > > > > ++++ see
> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
> > > > Everything real is
> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
> > > > with religious
> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
> > > > I have heard something
> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
> > > > assume you're a
> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
> > > > every religious current
> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
> > > > exactly what this
> > > > > > > means...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
> > > > universe as opposed to
> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
> > > > universe (the way many
> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
> > > > This view seems to be
> > > > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
> > > > old as Islam, but I
> > > > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
> > > > information-theory
> > > > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
> > > > that these things are
> > > > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
> > > > patterns that live in
> > > > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
> > > > them.. entities
> > > > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
> > > > brain-space.)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
> > > > know...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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> > > > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 03:07:32 2000
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Hey.... I don't know about what's up with Auraze, but you would probably have 
more luck ordering from the Univibe web site that is still up. Go to 
www.univibe.net....

*bryn*

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news about radiate.  i swear to god, i don't understand how ravers can be 
such fucking morons.  IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU HARDCORE to represent all over a 
gymnasium floor at a rave.  what the fuck, another perfect example of the 
rediculous wanna-be-hip-hop ravers.  christ.  i don't know if you've ever 
tried to scrub marker off of a parquet gymnasium floor with pine sol or 
whatever the fuck else we were using but it doesn't work that well.

rory & ryan did a phenomenal job with this party, it was a great time at a 
relatively low cost, especially by today's standards.  and ravers thank 
them by getting them sued!  ace move there, kids.  honestly, some people 
should be shot on sight.

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>
>rory and ryan from malfunction asked for me to thank everyone who came out
>for radiate.  over 2400 people came out and had a great time.
>
>regrettably, a few toys took it upon themselves to tag the venue in six
>different places and stuff the toilets with flyers.  this incredible venue
>(55,000 sq feet) can never be used again and legal action is pending againt
>malfunction.
>
>damn ravers.
>
>michael
>


_____________________________________________________________________
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Ignatius J. Reilly wrote:

> ........................................................................
>
> Free Dave "Blundar" now!! Vote Daffy Duck for Supreme Epopt!

I don't make light of any issue you consider to be important to you, and
I'd appreciate the same.  I found this to be very disrespectful.
Jerry

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>
>.......................................................................
>
> Free Dave "Blundar" now!! Vote Daffy Duck for Supreme Epopt!
>
>I don't make light of any issue you consider to be important to you,
>and I'd appreciate the same.  I found this to be very disrespectful.
>Jerry

>_______________________________________________________________________>________
>Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>
>Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!


 Dave is a real person, who is in jail & that I know and miss, not some
"issue" or "cause" I have <at best> only shaky 2nd hand info about.  As
for your political candidate of choice, but like most politicians, I
have more respect for Daffy. Sorry if that bothers you, but politics is
not an area in which it pays to be easily offended. 

 Has Carrie contacted you about that spare sense of humour yet?



                           what's with people today..

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What, indeed, is with people today?  I hope your friend serves the amount
of time he deserves and gets served in the ass many times over.  Do you
like when I disrespect you?  I'd appreciate it if you did not do so to me.
Jerry

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Ignatius J. Reilly wrote:

> >
> >.......................................................................
> >
> > Free Dave "Blundar" now!! Vote Daffy Duck for Supreme Epopt!
> >
> >I don't make light of any issue you consider to be important to you,
> >and I'd appreciate the same.  I found this to be very disrespectful.
> >Jerry
> 
> >_______________________________________________________________________>________
> >Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >
> >Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> 
> 
>  Dave is a real person, who is in jail & that I know and miss, not some
> "issue" or "cause" I have <at best> only shaky 2nd hand info about.  As
> for your political candidate of choice, but like most politicians, I
> have more respect for Daffy. Sorry if that bothers you, but politics is
> not an area in which it pays to be easily offended. 
> 
>  Has Carrie contacted you about that spare sense of humour yet?
> 
> 
> 
>                            what's with people today..
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 03:43:42 2000
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you could email aura @

Auraze212@aol.com

i remember her being on dateline.. . a while back..
wOOpiEe
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	Wow, um I think spring is pretty much a universally loved time of year... I
think you need to find a happy lamp or somethin...

        -- Matt Murphy --

> does spring depress everyone as much as it does me...now I
> know, it's still
> winter but spring is just too fuckin close and already I am
> feeling the
> efects start to wear on me...it's always this time of year I
> wanna kill
> people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone hate
> valentines day as much
> as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark holidays with no
> real point
> except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate it...why
> did my mom have
> to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I wanna go drink
> som whiskey but
> I have no money and I have to goto play rehearsal...did I
> mention being a
> theatre major gets old...anyway, enough of my bitching...


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	Hey folks, if you're looking for something to do for St Patty's day, come
check out this party, it's gonna be an 'avey good time! $10 presale at cafe
fusion will get ya into a small, FUN party, we're looking to bring the fun
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Here's the lineup:

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At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>
>Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
>the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
>Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.
>

So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest Orignal People'  & "not
Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that mean? were not allowed
into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort of 'negative'
connotations here... although I'm willing to admit those might not be
justified.  So please explain yourself.


tad



>On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>
>> First off, I most definitely understand the difference between race and
>> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the 5%er...why then do you refer
>> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?  Why do you not just
>> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths since we are all
>> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know much about that culture,
>> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers and Micranots are pretty
>> dope.
>> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
>> Jerry
>> 
>>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
>> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> 
>> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> 
>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is
Original,
>> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
>> > 
>> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> > 
>> > > So were all related right?
>> > > 
>> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
>> > > > White people are made
>> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
>> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
>> > > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
>> > > > H
>> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
>> > > > |
>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
>> > > > A--.--A
>> > > >                                                    
>> > > > / \
>> > > > 5% Network                                         L
>> > > >   L
>> > > > http://www.nge.org
>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> > > > 
>> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
>> > > > ++++
>> > > > ++++ see
>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> > > > 
>> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
>> > > > does that make white men
>> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
>> > > > > Jerry
>> > > > > 
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
____________________________________________________________________________
___
>> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
>> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
>> > > >     H
>> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
>> > > >     |
>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
>> > > >  A--.--A
>> > > > > >                                                 
>> > > >    / \
>> > > > > > 5% Network                                      
>> > > >   L   L
>> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
>> > > > ++++
>> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
>> > > > sig ++++
>> > > > > > ++++ see
>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
>> > > > Everything real is
>> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
>> > > > with religious
>> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
>> > > > I have heard something
>> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
>> > > > assume you're a
>> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
>> > > > every religious current
>> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
>> > > > exactly what this
>> > > > > > > means...
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Does this mean:
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
>> > > > universe as opposed to
>> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
>> > > > universe (the way many
>> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
>> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
>> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
>> > > > This view seems to be
>> > > > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
>> > > > old as Islam, but I
>> > > > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
>> > > > information-theory
>> > > > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
>> > > > that these things are
>> > > > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
>> > > > patterns that live in
>> > > > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
>> > > > them.. entities
>> > > > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
>> > > > brain-space.)
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > or
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
>> > > > know...
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > 
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"I'm gonna go drink some whisky,did I mention how much being a theater major 
sucks"...man its weird your like the third person to way that exact thing 
today...

Spring,come on man...it sounds like you are clinically depressed(thats not a 
bad or good thing mind you)....spring is a wicked time of year...its when 
everything blooms...and everything is all ripe....spring brings back good 
memories not to sound like suzy homemaker but its true

now winter,that being depressing is understandable all that buildup


ahh well


>From: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
>Reply-To: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
>To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [mw] just wondering...
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 21:48:08 -0600
>
>
>	Wow, um I think spring is pretty much a universally loved time of year... 
>I
>think you need to find a happy lamp or somethin...
>
>         -- Matt Murphy --
>
> > does spring depress everyone as much as it does me...now I
> > know, it's still
> > winter but spring is just too fuckin close and already I am
> > feeling the
> > efects start to wear on me...it's always this time of year I
> > wanna kill
> > people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone hate
> > valentines day as much
> > as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark holidays with no
> > real point
> > except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate it...why
> > did my mom have
> > to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I wanna go drink
> > som whiskey but
> > I have no money and I have to goto play rehearsal...did I
> > mention being a
> > theatre major gets old...anyway, enough of my bitching...
>
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i dont think you are alone with this at all.  one of my best friends, a guy
named mike, slips into deep depression every spring, and he has the
unfortunate luck to be born on feb 14.  in all the time i've known him (11
years, yeah i'm old) he has yet to actually have a girlfriend on valentines
day/his birthday.  i gots mad whiskey here, come over to milwacky for a shot
or 20.

    -bill
    - wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

----- Original Message -----
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> does spring depress everyone as much as it does me...now I know, it's
still
> winter but spring is just too fuckin close and already I am feeling the
> efects start to wear on me...it's always this time of year I wanna kill
> people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone hate valentines day as much
> as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark holidays with no real point
> except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate it...why did my mom have
> to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I wanna go drink som whiskey
but
> I have no money and I have to goto play rehearsal...did I mention being a
> theatre major gets old...anyway, enough of my bitching...
>
> dylan "tranerek" dorrell
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> >>>>>>                      "Fuck Valentines Day"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              Hearts and roses and kisses galore...
>>>>>>>              What the hell is all that shit for?
>>>>>>>              People get mushy and start acting queer
>>>>
>>>>>>>              It is definitely the most annoying day
>>>>                  of the year
>>>>>>>              This day needs to get the hell over
>>>>                  with and pass
>>>>>>>              Before I shove a dozen roses up
>>>>                  Cupid's ass
>>>>>>>              I'll spend the day so drunk I can't
>>>>                  speak
>>>>>>>              And wear all black for the rest of the
>>>>                  week
>>>>>>>              Guys act all sweet, but it will soon
>>>>                  fade
>>>>>>>              For all they are doing is trying to
>>>>                  get laid
>>>>>>>              The arrow Cupid shot at me must not
>>>>                  have hit
>>>>>>>              Because I think love is a crock of
>>>>                  shit
>>>>>>>              So here's my story...what else can I
>>>>                  say?
>>>>>>>              Love bites my ass...Fuck Valentines
>>>>                  Day!
>>>
>>> 


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so your 'burb' is more oldskool than mine?

    -bill
    - wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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you speak the truth brother...most of them are from the burbs...and they
think
driving all the way to the city..getting fucked up on rolls at Karma, et al.
is the best fuckin' thing in the world....till they have to drive their ass
all the way back out to park forest and orland park and shit....i speak from
experience..i'm a south burbie...i know how they are....

peace n cheers

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i personnaly am a big fan of winter and fall... i dont know why.  the only 
redeeming part of spring is that my house is right on the way to classes... 
when it gets warm - the short shorts and small tops come out and i get to 
sit on my patio and watch them walk by =)  aahh yes... such happy thoughts. 
...
and hallmark holidays suck.
oh- and happy b-day... whenever it is.  =)


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>From: "dylan dorrell" <ddorrell@hotmail.com>
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] just wondering...
>Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 16:58:05 PST
>
>does spring depress everyone as much as it does me...now I know, it's still
>winter but spring is just too fuckin close and already I am feeling the
>efects start to wear on me...it's always this time of year I wanna kill
>people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone hate valentines day as much
>as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark holidays with no real point
>except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate it...why did my mom have
>to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I wanna go drink som whiskey 
>but
>I have no money and I have to goto play rehearsal...did I mention being a
>theatre major gets old...anyway, enough of my bitching...
>
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ok, i may be losing it......i probably am losing it....but where did this
turn in this tread come from.  i just re-read the posts in this thread and i
don't get it.  was this private shit that was posted to the list?  i don't
get any of the free dave posts.  as important as it is to cut unneeded parts
of messages from your posts, it is also important to put pertainant (sp?)
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like "i disagree with you!!!" without qouting the original message, or
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thread.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerome C. Austriaco II <jaustria@students.depaul.edu>
To: Ignatius J. Reilly <te_one@yahoo.com>
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> What, indeed, is with people today?  I hope your friend serves the amount
> of time he deserves and gets served in the ass many times over.  Do you
> like when I disrespect you?  I'd appreciate it if you did not do so to me.
> Jerry
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
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> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>
> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Ignatius J. Reilly wrote:
>
> > >
> > >.......................................................................
> > >
> > > Free Dave "Blundar" now!! Vote Daffy Duck for Supreme Epopt!
> > >
> > >I don't make light of any issue you consider to be important to you,
> > >and I'd appreciate the same.  I found this to be very disrespectful.
> > >Jerry
> >
> >
>_______________________________________________________________________>___
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> > >Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > >
> > >Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >
> >
> >  Dave is a real person, who is in jail & that I know and miss, not some
> > "issue" or "cause" I have <at best> only shaky 2nd hand info about.  As
> > for your political candidate of choice, but like most politicians, I
> > have more respect for Daffy. Sorry if that bothers you, but politics is
> > not an area in which it pays to be easily offended.
> >
> >  Has Carrie contacted you about that spare sense of humour yet?
> >
> >
> >
> >                            what's with people today..
> >
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yep. that's me. drugs, dirty dancing, and techno music....


sarah, pondering the life of the after hours club....


damn channel seven news....

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In a message dated 2/8/2000 11:23:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com writes:

<<  i am gettnig sick of people posting generic things
 like "i disagree with you!!!" without qouting the original message, or
 stating who they are talking to when 10 or more people are active in a
 thread.
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welcome to midwest raves!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 04:32:32 2000
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and they're ripping on hyperreal! hehehehehe damn. i guess i'm part of some 
cult now. go me.

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what's this "blue" song everyone is talking about?  I've never heard it!
how does it go!  someone sing it for me.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 05:01:10 2000
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okay. so i got bored. and i resubbed. woohoo.

the first email i got when i resubbed was cbris talking about that damn
blue song. hahahahahah. oh my god. 

my hiatus from the list was funfilled and educational. yada yada.

i'm back to raise hell.  and im taking no prisoners.  say something. i
dare ya. hahahah. <giggles>

i cant wait to see all of you wonderful peoples on saturday.  

la la la
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HA!...whatta dumb ass.  The producers are not at fault...it's that damn kid. 
  Didn't he check the fuckin' temp. of the pie first.

heh

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<< what's this "blue" song everyone is talking about?  I've never heard it!
 how does it go!  someone sing it for me.>>

Here's some lyrics "Yo listen up, here's a story, about a little guy who 
lives in a blue world. And all day and all night and everything he sees is 
just blue like him, inside and outisde. Blue, his house, with a blue little 
window, and a blue corvette and everything is blue for him. And his-self, and 
everybody around cuz he ain't got no body to listen.
**Chorus**
I'm blue da ba dee da ba dye, da ba dee da ba dye, da ba dee da ba dye. Da ba 
dee da ba dye, da ba dee da ba dye da ba dee da ba dye. (Repeat)
I have a blue house with a blue window. Blue is the color of all that I wear. 
Blue are the streets and all the trees are too, I have a girlfriend, and she 
is so blue.
Blue are the people here that walk around. Blue like my corvette, it's 
standing outside. Blue are the words I say and what I think. Blue are the 
feelings, that live inside me. (Chorus)"

This song has a huge synth-line, its's EXTREMELY catchy but I'd say today 
it's officially time for me to put it away, I heard it on the radio today and 
now it's getting all popular with that Abercrombie and Fitch crowd so I'll 
hafta be moving on.

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NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chad, I beg you as a representative of all 
of MW-Raves, remove this person from the list. If you don't, The Apocalypse 
will be forthcoming.

breakin out the Holy Water, Garlic, Silver Bullets, and the 7 foot Cross
shawne

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Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 23:19:35 -0600
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>This song has a huge synth-line, its's EXTREMELY catchy but I'd say today 
>it's officially time for me to put it away, I heard it on the radio today
and 
>now it's getting all popular with that Abercrombie and Fitch crowd so I'll 
>hafta be moving on.

oh you mean they play it on the radio?  well forget it then.  radio music
sucks.

i still want someone to sing it for me.  i mean record yourself, make an
mp3 of it, and send it to me.

PLLLLEEEASE?!

chris

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 05:19:04 2000
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From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
To: "Tad Ghostal" <wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com>,
  "Storm Fuego" <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>,
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I don't know about my burb being oldskool...i don't even live there anymo=
re. =

I live in Chicago.  I was just giving an example from my own experience o=
f
seeing this cycle perpetuate.


Fuego ON!!!

:P

cheers


"Tad Ghostal" <wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com> wrote:
so your 'burb' is more oldskool than mine?

    -bill
    - wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
To: mike @ full spectrum <djgruve@home.net>; <Kidentropy@aol.com>;
<mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: [mw] chicago: tonight on channel 7 news ]


you speak the truth brother...most of them are from the burbs...and they
think
driving all the way to the city..getting fucked up on rolls at Karma, et =
al.
is the best fuckin' thing in the world....till they have to drive their a=
ss
all the way back out to park forest and orland park and shit....i speak f=
rom
experience..i'm a south burbie...i know how they are....

peace n cheers

Fuego :P








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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 05:19:54 2000
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I don't think you can sing it.  I mean it has words, but you can't really=
 make
em out, then the chorus is all skat man like....the video itself is kinda=

goofy... and the name of the group is Effiel (somebody help me if i'm wro=
ng)
76 or some 2 digit number.....


Fuego Terremoto!!

<<I AM THE ONE AND ONLY MOJO JOJO!!>>
cheers :P



chris ege <crege@students.wisc.edu> wrote:

what's this "blue" song everyone is talking about?  I've never heard it!
how does it go!  someone sing it for me.

chris

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Eiffel 65, I have the CD, it's pretty good. I know most radio music sucks, 
that's why I was devestated when I heard it on the radio today.

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In a message dated 2/8/00 11:18:37 PM Central Standard Time, 
crege@students.wisc.edu writes:

<< i still want someone to sing it for me.  i mean record yourself, make an
 mp3 of it, and send it to me. >>

It's a catchy-poppy song.  I got to hear the Happy Hardcore version the other 
day at a friends house.  It was just as catchy.
whatever.
Chris, It sounds as though I'll see you this weekend.  I'll sing it nice and 
loud for you if you can wait till then.  

Jen  :)

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On 8 Feb 2000, Storm Fuego wrote:

> I don't think you can sing it.  I mean it has words, but you can't really make
> em out, then the chorus is all skat man like....the video itself is kinda
> goofy... and the name of the group is Effiel (somebody help me if i'm wrong)
> 76 or some 2 digit number.....

it's Effiel 65, it's hit number one in just about every european
country, and best of all.....there's a WICKED happy hardcore mix of
it by Scott Brown. look out!

matt+

p.s.
and i bet the dubious Mr Ege has nefarious purposes for a mw-raves
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At 12:25 AM -0500 2/9/00, Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
> It's a catchy-poppy song.  I got to hear the Happy Hardcore version the
>other
> day at a friends house.  It was just as catchy.

Could you make an mp3 of it and let the rest of us hear it?



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Jahzid Allah wrote:

> Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
> the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
> Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.

So what?  I am made from the first bacterium that ever occurred in the
primordial sea, yet if I have a child a bacterium doesn't come out.  I can't
manifest what I came from.

There are 'white power' groups that claim that whites are God's "chosen
ones" and all other races are there to serve whites.  Racist philosophy is
racist philosophy and comes from the same fundamental error of thinking
regardless of which race it exalts.  That error is the same error made by
collectivists of every variety.  Human beings are individuals and should
be judged and considered as such.

There are great people and there is 'trash' among people of every color.
There are people who posess tremendous strength of will and spirit,
who posess tremendous depth and sensitivity, and who could very easily
have been the 'fathers and mothers of civilization' if they were around
at that time among every race.



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I am mainly of caucasian heritage but my background spans the almost the 
whole globe. I may not be a Father of Civilization but I love the fact that I 
am a Child of Civilization. And which race do you consider to be Original? 
Was it brown, red, white, what? We could trace this back to Genesis and all 
other sources of creation but I don't really care what color a person is. I 
have friends of all different colors in all different areas of the USA, some 
in Europe, some traveling all over the world. To me, trying to say that I 
represent the model of an Original Person is like saying I can't let go of 
the past. I'm proud of my heritage, but it's not because I like that I'm a 
white guy. It's because I've traced in my family tree, numerous martyrs, and 
people considered heritics because they wouldn't surrender to the government 
conrtolled churches. Many of my ancestors were jailed, tortured, and murdered 
by their own people. But I'm proud of the steadfast love that my ancestors 
showed for their beliefs. Anyways, that's all stuff that happened a couple 
hundred years ago. So to deside which race is better than another is 
completely ignorant. All races have had some great people in them and all 
races have commited some injustices towards others. So that's why I consider 
all men and women to be equal. I only judge on the actions of the individual.
Bless you all,
Menning
 
<< > Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
 > the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
 > Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace. >>

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Distorted Grooves Internet Radio

216.23.19.91:8000

If you have WinAmp...press (Ctrl+L) and enter 216.23.19.91:8000 to listen to
Distorted Grooves Internet Radio...

Schedule for 02.08.00   -  11pm - 4am

*Please note the IP Address will change nightly*

Be sure to check the MW-Raves list for IP Address updates


Peace

Atmospheric - Downtempo - Ambient
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say goodbye to the packard plant partykidz


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>
>what's this "blue" song everyone is talking about?  I've never heard it!
>how does it go!  someone sing it for me.
>
>chris


lyrics to "blue(da ba dee)" by eiffel 65:

I wanna lock Betty Crocker in the kitchen
And knock her upper during supper
Clutter up her butter gutter
Hostess Ding Dong wrapped an egg roll around my wong
While Dolly Madison proceeded to ping my pong
Your Milky Way is M 'n' M in your britches
And I'll tell you, Baby Ruth, it looks mighty delicious
Keep blowing my gum, cuz here I come
I'm gonna get you all sticky with my Bubble Yum

Knick knack paddywhack and give your dog a bone, baby

I was givin' head to some French bread
It was a four course orgy on the spread of my bed
French kissin' French fries in my Froot of the Looms
I get deeper penetration with a fork and a spoon

I got yogurt meat loaf smeared all over my ass
I stick my weiner in two buns and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
I'm gonna bust the seams with my refried beans

Ronald McDonald just loves to be fondled
With Big Mac he'll fuck it like a Chicken McNugget
Colonel Sanders wants to goose Granny's loose caboose
He's gonna give her a boost with that Kentucky fried juice
Sooper doop poop scoop, loop de loop, chicken coop
Shoot some hoop, top sirloin from the groin
Topped with dick cheese, sneeze, wheeze,
 From the skeez disease, wooi.

Take a dump, baby, squirt some gravy
Pour some sugar on me, honey, make it brown & runny
Give it a little Flavor Flav, back from the grave
Gonna burn some toast, pump some humpin' rump roast

Knick knack paddywhack, jump in the sack, in fact
Jerk the smack and crack jack from the back
Bananarama or ramabanana
Fuckin' Barry Manilow on the Copa Cabana.

Squeeze me macaroni, slop your face with my bologna

You gotta syphon the spinach, you gotta cream the corn
Sperm scrambles the eggs and a meal is born
Cookin' like a beginner but I'm goin' up in her
I had Fritos for lunch I'm havin' bush for dinner
Chef Boyardee and The Three Muskateers
Shove Charleston Chews in their rears like queers
"Holy moly, Guacamole!" said my Chips Ahoy
I'm gonna pinch a ravioli on the Pillsbury dough...Tall man

We came to pottie


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>  and the name of the group is Effiel (somebody help me if i'm wrong)
>76 or some 2 digit number.....

yeah i think they are actually called the 69 BOYZ


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for all you party freaks who wanna kickass:

> > >>Superstars of Love in association with Strung
> Out Productions present
> > >>Our six year valentine anniversary
> > >>Addicted to Love
> > >>
> > >>After 6 years, its time to stop- take a deep
> breath, drop your
> > >>pants, look in the mirror, close your eyes, and
> ask yourself just
> > >>who, what, why, when, and where are we? 
> Superstars of Love?  To
> > >>unravel the mystery via the brains own internal
> network of chemical
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> central nervous system
> > >>& triggers powerful changes in the body.  But
> things dont end there.
> > >>The rise and fall and rise of Superstars of
> FutureLove in the 21st 
> >century-
> > >>Nothing can stop us- then and now.  The
> experiences we continue to 
> >create
> > >>are
> > >>beyond a pleasurable pastime or a  mere
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> > >>driving
> > >>compulsion that pursues us thru our days and
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> >feel
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> > >>All Love You you are not you- you are a
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> > >>
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> > >>The Queen of Acid Trance is finally here! - And
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> >this
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> > >>Girl.
> > >>
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> > >>Tommie is one hot stick of dancefloor dynamite.
> This man now resides in 
> >two
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> >last
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> >and
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> > >>Really, feel his love.
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> >to
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> > >>His techno wizardry has made him a hometown hero
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> > >>
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> >Groove
> > >>style
> > >>
> > >>JON GOTTI - The Original Jungle Gangsta gets
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> > >>
> > >>MARK CHURHILL - Solid Union -  a reMARKable rise
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> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>EHCO -  Disco Pimps gonna take you deeper Disco
> Pimps gonna take you 
> >deeper
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Slow Dance in the Unearthly Ambient Love Lounge
> > >>w/ the ALL TIME HIGH sexperience playing the
> greatest love songs of the
> > >>century.Along with multi media performance
> artist TJ Ricter as cupid,
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> >by
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> > >>Witness a clean, legal, liscensed venue
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> > >>a wild world filled with lights, lasers, and
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> > >>
> > >>We would like to thank all our contacts &
> supporters who believe in us,
> > >>Dan
> > >>Friedman,
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> > >>
> > >>Admission
> > >>Only $20  At the door.
> > >>
> > >>Call for Location information 314.994.1114  
> >http://www.superstarsoflove.com
> > >>Strung Out Productions/KC  # 785.242.5200 ext.
> 8270
> 
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Peace.  You are not made "from bacterium".  You are made from the Original
Man.  Peace.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:

> Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
> > the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
> > Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.
> 
> So what?  I am made from the first bacterium that ever occurred in the
> primordial sea, yet if I have a child a bacterium doesn't come out.  I can't
> manifest what I came from.
> 
> There are 'white power' groups that claim that whites are God's "chosen
> ones" and all other races are there to serve whites.  Racist philosophy is
> racist philosophy and comes from the same fundamental error of thinking
> regardless of which race it exalts.  That error is the same error made by
> collectivists of every variety.  Human beings are individuals and should
> be judged and considered as such.
> 
> There are great people and there is 'trash' among people of every color.
> There are people who posess tremendous strength of will and spirit,
> who posess tremendous depth and sensitivity, and who could very easily
> have been the 'fathers and mothers of civilization' if they were around
> at that time among every race.
> 
> 
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my girlfriend is blue.  My dog is too.

what will i do.

entro - honkey by nature, cracker by design.

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The past present and future are connected.  There is no beginning nor
endig to Allah's Universe, but there is a beginning and and to
others'.  Peace.


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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:

> I am mainly of caucasian heritage but my background spans the almost the 
> whole globe. I may not be a Father of Civilization but I love the fact that I 
> am a Child of Civilization. And which race do you consider to be Original? 
> Was it brown, red, white, what? We could trace this back to Genesis and all 
> other sources of creation but I don't really care what color a person is. I 
> have friends of all different colors in all different areas of the USA, some 
> in Europe, some traveling all over the world. To me, trying to say that I 
> represent the model of an Original Person is like saying I can't let go of 
> the past. I'm proud of my heritage, but it's not because I like that I'm a 
> white guy. It's because I've traced in my family tree, numerous martyrs, and 
> people considered heritics because they wouldn't surrender to the government 
> conrtolled churches. Many of my ancestors were jailed, tortured, and murdered 
> by their own people. But I'm proud of the steadfast love that my ancestors 
> showed for their beliefs. Anyways, that's all stuff that happened a couple 
> hundred years ago. So to deside which race is better than another is 
> completely ignorant. All races have had some great people in them and all 
> races have commited some injustices towards others. So that's why I consider 
> all men and women to be equal. I only judge on the actions of the individual.
> Bless you all,
> Menning
>  
> << > Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
>  > the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
>  > Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace. >>
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speaking of auraze... my girlfriend ordering some clothes from them like 
close to three or four months ago... and they still haven't sent or 'charged' 
her credit card...

every email that she sends to them... she gets no response... even from the 
webmaster... 

I was going to order some pants through them... but their service leaves much 
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---begin transmissions------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
House of Babylon BROductions of Indpls &
Sista Jade Entertainment are once again 
proud to join forces to bring you the 
ultimatepleasure eXperience!

T H E
P L E A S U R E 
D O M E

Saturday, March 18th, 2000
Indianapolis, IN

Featuring:

A-TRAK (Allies - Monteal)
At the ripe age of 15, A-Trak shocked the world as he
won the 1997 WORLD DMC CHAMPIONSHIP!  3 years later, 
his skills have only improved!  For those of you who
thought their was a limit to what turntablism could
do, you're sure to be blown away!

SCOTT HENRY (Buzz/Fever - Washington DC)
It's been awhile since Scott has set foot in Indy.
But, he returns on this fretful night with a bag
full of progressive treats for your tricks!  Trance
with a hint of techno and a dash of house, you
won't be unmoved!

NIGEL RICHARDS (611 Records - Philly)
Proprietor of 611 Records, one of the more prominent
east coast record stores in the US, Nigel is also
a top-notch disc jockey, able to beat the funk outta
anyone with his techno-laden house cuts!  Another
one that hasn't been here in awhile!

PRODUCT 19 (House of Styles - Pittsburg)
One of the founders of the House of Styles crew
in Pitts, PA, Product 19 is responsible for some
of that city's more heavy-attended parties ever!
And, he bangs some hard-ass techno to boot! Come
see why Pitts is quickly becoming synonymous with
techno talent!

And featuring the House of Babylon HOSTiLE TAKEOVER-

CHOCOLATE: The Freaky AfroNaut
The Virgin Surgeon, himself returns homeward from a
deep Sexploration voyage in Uranus!  He returns with
tech-house rekkids that make young boys squeel 
and 18 yr old girls cream!  Aww, yeah... He's 
Tha Daddy!

K-STEP 
Opening up for A-Trak and priming the audience!  Steve
K-Step will show you undoubtedly that Indy can hang.
And, like an African Tribesman with elephantitis, he'll
hang long and solid... and alittle to the left!

danDAVE
For those who like their jungle alittle on the darker
side of thangs, danDAVE is for you!  Dark Step and 
Tech Step have never sounded so sweet!

BLAIR BROWN
Our new resident from Chi-Town has been making waves
in the underground scene, taking names and breaking
hearts.  With a smile that'll melt your heart and 
rekkids that'll jack yo' body, you can't resist his
house -- Jackin' all to be damned!!!!

THE PLEASURE DOME!
Saturday, March 18th, 2000
Doors open @ 9PM
Music starts @ 10PM
$20 all night long!

Sound provided by our trusted friends Log2 Sound System
Lights provided by Project 7

3 masseuse tables will be available from 1-3 for
free massages for those dancers who jack too hard!

THE PLEASURE DOME will also include a 
pre-party entitled PANTY RAiD! on
Friday, March 17th, 2000.


Featured acts include:

Frankie Vega (Mushgroove - Chicago)
Deeon (DanceMania/Roule - Chicago)
Mazi (Afterhours/Moody - Chicago)
3Jay (UndaGround Elements - Chicago)
Jaede (Sista Jade Entertainment)
Charles Paul (Sista Jade Entertainment)

$5 before midnight
$10 after

For more information, please contact:

House of Babylon Broductions
317 592 9236
housebabylon@aol.com

Sista Jade Entertainment
317 704 1462
sistajade@email.com

All guest list requests must be filed 
by March 12th either by e-mailing your
request or calling the voicemail. If
you do not receive a confirmation, then
you were not accepted.  THERE ARE NO
EXCEPTIONS AND NO WALK-UPS!  For the
sake of respect, please follow our 
wishes!  Thank you!

If you would like to beon our e-mail
based mailinglist, where you will 
receive personalized e-mail messages
periodically with concise, correct, and
consistent information regarding all
Indpls Alliance events, incld 
HofB, Sista Jade, Mystery Mixx, 
Organized Chaos, et al. please e-mail:

housebabylon@aol.com

There will be a free after hours 
presented by House of Babylon 
featuring the House of Babylon
HOSTiLE TAKE-OVER, but you must 
be on the mailing list as this
is an invite-only reception!

March 18th, 2000
Saturday, Indpls - IN

THE******
PLEASURE**
DOME*****

Also, coming from the Indpls Alliance-

May 27th - Sista Jade Entertainment's 1 yr Anniversary party
June 3rd - House of Babylon presents - WET DREAMz!
           feat. DJ Moda, Christopher Lawrence, JazzE & More!
July 22nd - COCOA AMORE - Chocolate's B-Day BJ!
-------------------------------------------end transmissions---
-------------------------------------------------------------------

--------The Indianapolis Alliance---------
               317 413 6153 (office)
HofB           SistaJade    MysteryMixx
           DiscoDisciplesD'Amour
SubWarped Rec     Mighty Tikki God Rec
                *.* recordings
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yawn, after a-trak i think i'd kill myself.

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>yawn, after a-trak i think i'd kill myself.

Makes two of us...only thing that would make this party even worse is a 2
hour set by Hyperactive...maybe he could play his same set from NPLH ;p

I'll still be there tho.  Since...as you ALL know now...(my secret is
out)...I'm in love with Scott Henry.

In case anyone cares my birthday is March 22nd.  For my birthday I want
Britney Spears.  In my bed.  Naked.  So if you can help me out...  ;p

fergus :)


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There is a beginning and end to others' universes?  I thought there is no
such thing as the supernatural.  What are these other universes?  Would
you be able go give some examples of some?  
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:

> 
> The past present and future are connected.  There is no beginning nor
> endig to Allah's Universe, but there is a beginning and and to
> others'.  Peace.
> 
> 
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>     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I am mainly of caucasian heritage but my background spans the almost the 
> > whole globe. I may not be a Father of Civilization but I love the fact that I 
> > am a Child of Civilization. And which race do you consider to be Original? 
> > Was it brown, red, white, what? We could trace this back to Genesis and all 
> > other sources of creation but I don't really care what color a person is. I 
> > have friends of all different colors in all different areas of the USA, some 
> > in Europe, some traveling all over the world. To me, trying to say that I 
> > represent the model of an Original Person is like saying I can't let go of 
> > the past. I'm proud of my heritage, but it's not because I like that I'm a 
> > white guy. It's because I've traced in my family tree, numerous martyrs, and 
> > people considered heritics because they wouldn't surrender to the government 
> > conrtolled churches. Many of my ancestors were jailed, tortured, and murdered 
> > by their own people. But I'm proud of the steadfast love that my ancestors 
> > showed for their beliefs. Anyways, that's all stuff that happened a couple 
> > hundred years ago. So to deside which race is better than another is 
> > completely ignorant. All races have had some great people in them and all 
> > races have commited some injustices towards others. So that's why I consider 
> > all men and women to be equal. I only judge on the actions of the individual.
> > Bless you all,
> > Menning
> >  
> > << > Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
> >  > the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
> >  > Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace. >>
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> A-TRAK
who?


> SCOTT HENRY

awww, shit!

> NIGEL RICHARDS

awww, hell yeah!


> $20 all nite long


Hmmm...  anyone else in the MidWest 
would probably have charged $25. 
Big props to HofB and SJE!

I'll be there!

-BoyMusique

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(((Looking))) for a new aesthetic @
         Inter-face(New Musics | Regressive Cultures)

Somewhere between a rave and a Bill Viola 25-year
    Retrospective...  Degas' ballerina still spins on a
    certain stage in Paris.  But can one find the right stage?

One must begin by looking...

Thus to enumerate the aesthetic in question:

(1) Abstract sounds of the human voice instrument,

(2) Tonality and meter in non-human denominations,

(3) To be alone in an alien world,

(4) Surrounded by a strange language,

(5) A large dark room with dirty windows,

(6) There is a chair,

(7) Amid stacks of books that talk in algebras,

(8) (There sits a woman.),

(9) The late Michael Hedges once sung at Shank Hall:
      "And here is the wonder that's keeping the stars apart:
       I carry your heart,"

(10) Or Joni Mitchell in a former existence:
    "So the years spin by and now the boy is twenty
     Though his dreams have lost some grandeur coming true
     There'll be new dreams, maybe better dreams and plenty
     Before the last revolving year is through,"

(11) The aesthetic in question,

(12) To estrange the homely rhymes of the former lives,

(13) To be a foreigner...

(13) To be a foreigner...

(13) To be a foreigner...


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In a message dated 2/9/00 2:07:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
musique_69@yahoo.com writes:

> 
>  > A-TRAK
>  who?

if ya gotta ask - you don't deserve to know.

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In a message dated 2/9/00 1:02:57 AM Central Standard Time, 
fergcore@earthlink.net writes:

<< In case anyone cares my birthday is March 22nd.  For my birthday I want
 Britney Spears.  In my bed.  Naked.  So if you can help me out...  ;p
  >>

Ah yes, have you seen the  picture of her on the People Magazine cover?  The 
title is "Too Sexy Too Fast?"  
I wanted to pick it up at the grocery store tonight, but I didn't have the 
$3.oo.  Just enough for dinner.  It was discussing breast implants, prince 
whats-his-name and older guys.  
I was in teeny bopper heaven.

Anyone have $3.oo to spare?

Jen Sixtybus

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>Anyone have $3.oo to spare?

I have a subscription...you can have my copy.  I didn't like any of the
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Is there anyone out there in the Central Ohio area, or that would be going 
through the Central Ohio area that is going to Whistle 3 that would be able 
to give me a ride?  I would be more than happy to pitch in for 
gas/food/other expenses.  Please let me know.

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Good ole Channel 7 news....

and how about the Hyperreal.org page......

*shakes his head*

They ain't got nothing else to do..


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"mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: <PHILFART@aol.com>
To: <djgruve@home.net>; <Kidentropy@aol.com>; <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [mw] chicago: tonight on channel 7 news


> In a message dated 02/08/1970, 3:42:07 PM, djgruve@home.net writes:
> <<best entertainment in chicago would have to be karma seeing all the
jocks &
> ginos on E
> dancing wobbling around like sloths with no shirts on.  it's kinda funn=
y
> until they wobble into you
> and you get all their slime and who knows what on you.>>
>
>
> It's kinda amuzing to watch "tough guys" with silver glittery shirts an=
d
glow
> sticks. No way bro...you guys don't look cool. But who am I to stop one=

from
> having fun...right?
>
> Next week @ Exit club...sexy school girl unoform night!! Awww yeah!
Bondage
> and freaks galore!!

phil we are there!  maybe you can dress up in your lil skirt and have som=
e
beefy momma
spank that ass around.  i would pay to see that!



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 08:30:30 2000
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Anyone notice that there have been a lot of deaths of famous people
lately?  Derrick Thomas of the Chiefs(one of the best linebackers EVER), 
Big Punisher, Bob Collins of WGN, and the famous magician guy...I know it
probably means nothing, but damn...also following the Carolina Panthers'
Rae Carruth planning the murder of his girlfriend and the 
hopefully-innocent Ray Lewis of the Ravens...
Jerry
(Sorry, it's 2:30, this probably sounds like one of Stevie's annoying
coincidence posts)
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Peace, I am speaking mentally which is real.  Families are Universes.
There is no such thing as the Original Man's Universe having a beginning
nor ending.  Some of the ethnolinguistic groups amongst the Original Man
have beginnings and endings.  Peace.


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    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:

> There is a beginning and end to others' universes?  I thought there is no
> such thing as the supernatural.  What are these other universes?  Would
> you be able go give some examples of some?  
> J---y
> 
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> 
> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The past present and future are connected.  There is no beginning nor
> > endig to Allah's Universe, but there is a beginning and and to
> > others'.  Peace.
> > 
> > 
> > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> > allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
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> > http://www.nge.org
> > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > 
> >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> > ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > 
> > On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > I am mainly of caucasian heritage but my background spans the almost the 
> > > whole globe. I may not be a Father of Civilization but I love the fact that I 
> > > am a Child of Civilization. And which race do you consider to be Original? 
> > > Was it brown, red, white, what? We could trace this back to Genesis and all 
> > > other sources of creation but I don't really care what color a person is. I 
> > > have friends of all different colors in all different areas of the USA, some 
> > > in Europe, some traveling all over the world. To me, trying to say that I 
> > > represent the model of an Original Person is like saying I can't let go of 
> > > the past. I'm proud of my heritage, but it's not because I like that I'm a 
> > > white guy. It's because I've traced in my family tree, numerous martyrs, and 
> > > people considered heritics because they wouldn't surrender to the government 
> > > conrtolled churches. Many of my ancestors were jailed, tortured, and murdered 
> > > by their own people. But I'm proud of the steadfast love that my ancestors 
> > > showed for their beliefs. Anyways, that's all stuff that happened a couple 
> > > hundred years ago. So to deside which race is better than another is 
> > > completely ignorant. All races have had some great people in them and all 
> > > races have commited some injustices towards others. So that's why I consider 
> > > all men and women to be equal. I only judge on the actions of the individual.
> > > Bless you all,
> > > Menning
> > >  
> > > << > Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
> > >  > the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
> > >  > Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace. >>
> > > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 09:38:48 2000
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we alway bitch that the radio sucks.

And finaly when a cool song makes it on the radio and the abercrombie crowd
listens to it we declare that it is played out.

In europe much of what in the states we call underground, is pop music.

I love the underground, but I would rather live where cool music was
considered cool and pop.

You know when you drive cross country to that phat rave.  YOu are driving
thru BFE and the only radio stations you can pick up is 4 kinds of country
and some Jesus saves talk show.

Id rather have bad ass music on the radio.  We as a scene should support any
trax that crosses over to pop.

Blue is a cool trax.


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i saw doug henning perform live once!!!

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whats the line up for whistle 3?

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whats the line up for whistle 3?

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At 01:40 9-2-00 -0500, Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:

>I was going to order some pants through them... but their service leaves 
>much to be desired... i'll go elsewhere

Dooooood!!! You mean those pants you showed me that look like that 
spaceship Buck Rogers flew in the 10th episode of the second season?!

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i still wanna hear the hhc version of blue, yo!

jester

>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:20:57 -0600
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>Subject: The REAL words to DA BA DEE (was Re: [mw] "blue")
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>
>
>>
>>what's this "blue" song everyone is talking about?  I've never heard it!
>>how does it go!  someone sing it for me.
>>
>>chris
>
>
>lyrics to "blue(da ba dee)" by eiffel 65:
>
>I wanna lock Betty Crocker in the kitchen
>And knock her upper during supper
>Clutter up her butter gutter
>Hostess Ding Dong wrapped an egg roll around my wong
>While Dolly Madison proceeded to ping my pong
>Your Milky Way is M 'n' M in your britches
>And I'll tell you, Baby Ruth, it looks mighty delicious
>Keep blowing my gum, cuz here I come
>I'm gonna get you all sticky with my Bubble Yum
>
>Knick knack paddywhack and give your dog a bone, baby
>
>I was givin' head to some French bread
>It was a four course orgy on the spread of my bed
>French kissin' French fries in my Froot of the Looms
>I get deeper penetration with a fork and a spoon
>
>I got yogurt meat loaf smeared all over my ass
>I stick my weiner in two buns and then give it the gas
>Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
>I'm gonna bust the seams with my refried beans
>
>Ronald McDonald just loves to be fondled
>With Big Mac he'll fuck it like a Chicken McNugget
>Colonel Sanders wants to goose Granny's loose caboose
>He's gonna give her a boost with that Kentucky fried juice
>Sooper doop poop scoop, loop de loop, chicken coop
>Shoot some hoop, top sirloin from the groin
>Topped with dick cheese, sneeze, wheeze,
> From the skeez disease, wooi.
>
>Take a dump, baby, squirt some gravy
>Pour some sugar on me, honey, make it brown & runny
>Give it a little Flavor Flav, back from the grave
>Gonna burn some toast, pump some humpin' rump roast
>
>Knick knack paddywhack, jump in the sack, in fact
>Jerk the smack and crack jack from the back
>Bananarama or ramabanana
>Fuckin' Barry Manilow on the Copa Cabana.
>
>Squeeze me macaroni, slop your face with my bologna
>
>You gotta syphon the spinach, you gotta cream the corn
>Sperm scrambles the eggs and a meal is born
>Cookin' like a beginner but I'm goin' up in her
>I had Fritos for lunch I'm havin' bush for dinner
>Chef Boyardee and The Three Muskateers
>Shove Charleston Chews in their rears like queers
>"Holy moly, Guacamole!" said my Chips Ahoy
>I'm gonna pinch a ravioli on the Pillsbury dough...Tall man
>
>We came to pottie
>
>
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well i think that auraze as of a few months ago was having problems...i
remember talking to the girl who was the original designer of the pants
and she was about to go to court with the guy who was doing most of the
business work of it because she got cut out of ALL the money.  i dont know
exactly what happened.  all i remember was it was her actual designs and
she started it all...she just was a younger person who got overtaken by
someone who thought they could take advantage of that fact.  

=P
exploitation. blah.
lauryn


dammit im late for italian again.

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In a message dated 2/9/00 7:34:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, eye-d@gmx.net 
writes:

<< >I was going to order some pants through them... but their service leaves 
 >much to be desired... i'll go elsewhere
 
 Dooooood!!! You mean those pants you showed me that look like that 
 spaceship Buck Rogers flew in the 10th episode of the second season?!
  >>

werd the very same, yo.

i can dance liquid all night long in those and there's even a hidden pocket 
for my vials of k, yo.

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:
> i saw doug henning perform live once!!!

I saw Curt Henning, AKA Mr. Perfect, wrestle once.

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In a message dated 2/9/00 8:02:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
lgoller@indiana.edu writes:

<< well i think that auraze as of a few months ago was having problems...i
 remember talking to the girl who was the original designer of the pants
 and she was about to go to court with the guy who was doing most of the
 business work of it because she got cut out of ALL the money.  i dont know
 exactly what happened.  all i remember was it was her actual designs and
 she started it all...she just was a younger person who got overtaken by
 someone who thought they could take advantage of that fact.  
  >>

i understand that... but we waited forever for a new catalog... and they 
finally send one out to us... and we order like the next week... and now 
this...

whats the point of offering new merchandise if you can't send it... plus... i 
mean we gave out her credit card number... kind of worries me if 'customer 
service' is sitting there with her cc number

entro

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 16:47:59 2000
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For anyone that watched the thing on Channel seven last night, could you
let me know what afterhour clubs they did, because I am from Chicago, but
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 09 17:12:46 2000
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Screw all of those football players or whatever- Lonesome Dave, the lead
singer of Foghat, died today.  

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what does this mean????

 Some of the ethnolinguistic groups
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SHUT UP DYLAN I'VE GOT A MOHAWK AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S SPRING.

See the seasons change my hair.

Matt

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, dylan dorrell wrote:

> does spring depress everyone as much as it does me...now I know, it's still 
> winter but spring is just too fuckin close and already I am feeling the 
> efects start to wear on me...it's always this time of year I wanna kill 
> people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone hate valentines day as much 
> as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark holidays with no real point 
> except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate it...why did my mom have 
> to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I wanna go drink som whiskey but 
> I have no money and I have to goto play rehearsal...did I mention being a 
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Same as whistle 2.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 Panked@aol.com wrote:

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I vote "danDAVE" as the official best DJ name ever on the entire mw-raves
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anyone know of any friday night parties (non-club) near cincinnati in the
next couple of months?

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YES!  everyone check this site out.  one of the best parodies(did you catch 
that adam jay?) of the pathetic mutant known as the "christian right" that i 
have seen.  their criticisms are actually based on something rather than 
empty mockery of organised religion in general.
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Are you talking about Dan vs. Dave from the Olympics a few years ago?

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and Whistle 1. :)


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Same as whistle 2.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 Panked@aol.com wrote:

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>Screw all of those football players or whatever- Lonesome Dave, the lead
>singer of Foghat, died today.

It was even more disappointing when the
Madison band "Faghat" officially broke up
last August.  There were many tears.

In case somebody actually knows what I'm
talking about: Did Miles end up moving to
San Fransisco?

Um yeah... HOUSE MUSIC ALL NIGHT LONG.

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I'm sending this again b/c you didn't bother to reply or you missed it... 

Really I would appreciate an answer to my question.. or an explanation,  if
that is beyond your abilities  to explain what you mean... dont bother
talking about it or pretending to be so erudite.  Really I have yet to seen
anything 'negatively Racist' from you but its obvious that it is 1. right
below the surface  or 2. your just trying to start shit.   So please put up
or shut up.

What does that following mean?  pretty big sounding words but really if you
cant or wont quantify  them.  You might as well just tell everyone your the
grand poobah of shamballa.

Peace,

tad

>>Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
>>the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
>>Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.
>>
>
>So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest Orignal People'  &
"not Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that mean? were not
allowed into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort of 'negative'
connotations here... although I'm willing to admit those might not be
justified.  So please explain yourself.
>
>
>tad
>
>
>
>>On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>>
>>> First off, I most definitely understand the difference between race and
>>> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the 5%er...why then do you refer
>>> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?  Why do you not just
>>> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths since we are all
>>> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know much about that culture,
>>> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers and Micranots are pretty
>>> dope.
>>> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>>
____________________________________________________________________________
___
>>> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>>> 
>>> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is
Original,
>>> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
>>> > 
>>> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > > So were all related right?
>>> > > 
>>> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
>>> > > > White people are made
>>> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
>>> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
>>> > > > H
>>> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
>>> > > > A--.--A
>>> > > >                                                    
>>> > > > / \
>>> > > > 5% Network                                         L
>>> > > >   L
>>> > > > http://www.nge.org
>>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>>> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>>> > > > 
>>> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>>> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
>>> > > > ++++
>>> > > > ++++ see
>>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>>> > > > 
>>> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
>>> > > > does that make white men
>>> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
>>> > > > > Jerry
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
____________________________________________________________________________
___
>>> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>>> > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
>>> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
>>> > > >     H
>>> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
>>> > > >     |
>>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
>>> > > >  A--.--A
>>> > > > > >                                                 
>>> > > >    / \
>>> > > > > > 5% Network                                      
>>> > > >   L   L
>>> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
>>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>>> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
>>> > > > ++++
>>> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
>>> > > > sig ++++
>>> > > > > > ++++ see
>>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
>>> > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
>>> > > > Everything real is
>>> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
>>> > > > with religious
>>> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
>>> > > > I have heard something
>>> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
>>> > > > assume you're a
>>> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
>>> > > > every religious current
>>> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
>>> > > > exactly what this
>>> > > > > > > means...
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > Does this mean:
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
>>> > > > universe as opposed to
>>> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
>>> > > > universe (the way many
>>> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > or
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
>>> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
>>> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
>>> > > > This view seems to be
>>> > > > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
>>> > > > old as Islam, but I
>>> > > > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
>>> > > > information-theory
>>> > > > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
>>> > > > that these things are
>>> > > > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
>>> > > > patterns that live in
>>> > > > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
>>> > > > them.. entities
>>> > > > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
>>> > > > brain-space.)
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > or
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
>>> > > > know...
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > 
>>> > > > > > > 
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In a message dated 02/09/1970, 10:48:14 AM, shakes_07@yahoo.com writes:
<<For anyone that watched the thing on Channel seven last night, could you
let me know what afterhour clubs they did, because I am from Chicago, but
am living in CHampaign, so I couldn't watch it.>>

It was some club in Greektown. It was in no way a "rave" type of 
place...mainly because people were dancing. Honestly, do you think people go 
to raves to dance?!?

Personally, I think its propaganda on the part of a mayor who wants to be 
reelected. Why do you think there's a "rave-task force" in Chicago now. 

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this sums it up in a nut shell


>  Racist philosophy is
> racist philosophy and comes from the same
> fundamental error of thinking
> regardless of which race it exalts.  
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If Allah is truely the highest being, everything would
be contained in his universe, therefore everything
would have no end and no begining (which I believe is
true).
Muslems believe this as well, but the Nation of Islam
likes to put a racist tint to this saying that only
the Black Man is included in this.
Dont be shaded from the truth.
(btw, I do support what the Nation of Islam does for
the African American comunity physically, but
spiritually I question their motives)

--- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> 
> The past present and future are connected.  There is
> no beginning nor
> endig to Allah's Universe, but there is a beginning
> and and to
> others'.  Peace.
> 
> 
> Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
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> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:
> 
> > I am mainly of caucasian heritage but my
> background spans the almost the 
> > whole globe. I may not be a Father of Civilization
> but I love the fact that I 
> > am a Child of Civilization. And which race do you
> consider to be Original? 
> > Was it brown, red, white, what? We could trace
> this back to Genesis and all 
> > other sources of creation but I don't really care
> what color a person is. I 
> > have friends of all different colors in all
> different areas of the USA, some 
> > in Europe, some traveling all over the world. To
> me, trying to say that I 
> > represent the model of an Original Person is like
> saying I can't let go of 
> > the past. I'm proud of my heritage, but it's not
> because I like that I'm a 
> > white guy. It's because I've traced in my family
> tree, numerous martyrs, and 
> > people considered heritics because they wouldn't
> surrender to the government 
> > conrtolled churches. Many of my ancestors were
> jailed, tortured, and murdered 
> > by their own people. But I'm proud of the
> steadfast love that my ancestors 
> > showed for their beliefs. Anyways, that's all
> stuff that happened a couple 
> > hundred years ago. So to deside which race is
> better than another is 
> > completely ignorant. All races have had some great
> people in them and all 
> > races have commited some injustices towards
> others. So that's why I consider 
> > all men and women to be equal. I only judge on the
> actions of the individual.
> > Bless you all,
> > Menning
> >  
> > << > Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> Original People, nor are they
> >  > the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They
> are made from the Original
> >  > Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> Peace. >>
> > 
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> >okay its so damn cute I had to email it to you guys......
> >its just funny funny funny.  :)
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Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Re: police searches @ parties
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It does not matter if it a two bit crack house or a
$20,000 venue and it don't matter who is spining...its
still a rave.

Toby

--- adam_louis <adam_louis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> why do you compare my rave
> to a crackhouse
> 
> i don't know what kinda
> party you thought lazurus was
> but i sure didn't think
> it was a crackhouse
> 
> i agree with you though...
> this may go for an 
> unattended crack house
> 
> it doesn't go for a 20,000$ 
> event with superstar djs
> 
> 
> adam_louis
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Curtis 
>   To: adam_louis ; stl-raves@egroups.com ;
> mo-raves@hyperreal.org 
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:29 AM
>   Subject: [stl] Re: police searches @ parties
> 
> 
> the police do not necessarily need a search warrant
> to search you, your car,
> or your house.  they will do it, say they had a
> reason and then it doesn't
> matter if they had a search warrant or not.  as far
> as events, it probably
> depends on whether or not they think you'll sue
> them.
> 
> as long as the police are acting in "good faith"
> that there are illegal
> activities or that you agree to a search, then their
> search is legal.
> 
> a sheriff and a deputy go to a house they suspect of
> being a crackhouse, the
> deputy goes to the back of the house, the sheriff
> knocks and says "can we
> search your house?" the deputy in the back yells,
> "yes" and the sheriff
> enters the house in "good faith" that what he is
> doing is an agreed to
> search.  a situation very similar to this has held
> up in court when evidence
> was questioned whether or not it was legally
> obtained.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adam_louis" <adam_louis@hotmail.com>
> To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>;
> <stl-raves@egroups.com>;
> <mo-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:32 AM
> Subject: re: police searches @ parties
> 
> 
> i agree with you laine,
> the police want to enter parties...
> and the police do everything they
> can to get in parties...
> 
> it's interesting that you mention a space owner
> consenting to a search, because
> 
> if i ever throw a party
> there will be a
> clause in the contract
> that voids the contract
> if the owner consents to
> a search of the premises
> without my approval
> 
> 
> the police have no right
> to enter someone's property without
> a search warrant or reasonable cause...
> 
> if promoters would consult lawers
> (not necessarily hire them)
> the promoters would find that the police
> rarely have reasonable cause (in a legal sense),
> and seldom have a search warrant
> when they enter parties
> 
> promoters or space owners LET them in
> 
> police over the years have developed methods
> for pressuring their way into searches...
> if you watch cops for one hour you will
> see at least one cop 'leverage' his way into a
> search
> 
> this is legal
> 
> when a cop begins 'leveraging'
> that is your cue to get eye contact
> and let him know that you know your rights
> 'i do not consent to a search of
> my person or property.  do you have
> search warrant?'
> 
> it is a common misconception is that
> you cannot refuse a search...
> 
> if you refuses a search
> the police have to get a search warrant
> this goes for your car
> this goes for your house
> this goes for your party
> 
> another common misconception is that
> refusing a search can incriminate
> 
> refusing a search is not an admission of guilt
> 
> if you refuse a search from an officer
> he has to go get a search warrant
> he cannot get the search warrant based
> on you refusing the search
> he has to prove to the judge that he
> has enough evidence to deserve a warrant
> 
> i've seen and heard of promoters
> keeping the police out of a party all night
> 
> i remember recently hearing about a party
> where the fire marshall was outside all night
> looking in windows trying to get reasonable
> cause for entry into the building
> 
> the police do not have a right to enter our parties
> 
> we LET them
> 
> 
> adam_louis
> 
> 
> I don't want to get into a flame war, i'm just
> saying
> that there have been instances where parties being
> thrown by some very good promoters have been shut
> down
> because of other illegal activities going on inside
> the party. When you get 3000 people in one place at
> one time it's hard to make sure that everyone stays
> out of trouble.
> If you are throwing a party, and a cop wants to come
> in, you let them in, if you don't you're asking to
> be
> shut down.
> The cops don't have to prove anything to the
> promoters
> to enter the building. I, as well as a friend of
> mine,
> hav been in the situation where the cops showed up
> at
> our parties and wanted to shut them down, there was
> not shit we could have done about it, especially if
> the cops have the consent of the venue owner and it
> involved drugs. I'm just speaking from my personal
> experience.
> Laine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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i've been poppin for a bout a year but here at school
it's unheard of so i have nobody to learn from     is
there any place on the net i can order a video of
people breakin and poppin
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What the fuck has happened to Kansas City Lately???  I don't even want to go
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hey there, thought this might be the quickest way to
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From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
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I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
that white people cant have black children.
We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
children, or Native American children, or whatever.
And when a black person has a child that has a skin
problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
child is not caucasian.
Now caucasian might have come from such things as
genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
us today.
Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
point out racial diferences, the more they are going
to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
whole.
If we all want equality, then we better damn well
respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!

--- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> Original People, nor are they
> >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> made from the Original
> >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> Peace.
> >
> 
> So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> Orignal People'  & "not
> Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> mean? were not allowed
> into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> of 'negative'
> connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> those might not be
> justified.  So please explain yourself.
> 
> 
> tad
> 
> 
> 
> >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >
> >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> difference between race and
> >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> Why do you not just
> >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> since we are all
> >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> much about that culture,
> >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> and Micranots are pretty
> >> dope.
> >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> Jerry
> >> 
> >>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> 
> >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> 
> >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> the same.  One is
> Original,
> >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> > 
> >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > So were all related right?
> >> > > 
> >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> People. 
> >> > > > White people are made
> >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> and
> >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
>         
> >> > > > H
> >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
>         
> >> > > > |
> >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
>      
> >> > > > A--.--A
> >> > > >                                            
>        
> >> > > > / \
> >> > > > 5% Network                                 
>        L
> >> > > >   L
> >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> > > > 
> >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> your sig
> >> > > > ++++
> >> > > > ++++ see
> >> > > >
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> wrote:
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> Earths, what
> >> > > > does that make white men
> >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> > > > > Jerry
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> Primaries!
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> religious
> >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
>         
> >> > > >     H
> >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
>         
> >> > > >     |
> >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
>         
> >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> > > > > >                                        
>         
> >> > > >    / \
> >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
>         
> >> > > >   L   L
> >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> Abu-Jamal
> >> > > > ++++
> >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> to your
> >> > > > sig ++++
> >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> > > >
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> wrote:
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> "supernatural". 
> >> > > > Everything real is
> >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> everyone's email
> >> > > > with religious
> >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> interesting. 
> >> > > > I have heard something
> >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> Muslims (I
> >> > > > assume you're a
> >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> almost
> >> > > > every religious current
> >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> have to ask
> >> > > > exactly what this
> >> > > > > > > means...
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> the
> >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> the
> >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > or
> >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> will. 
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I hate spring, nothing but muck and alergic reactions,
I'll take summer or fall anytime

--- Matt Murphy <murph@mr.net> wrote:
> 
> 	Wow, um I think spring is pretty much a universally
> loved time of year... I
> think you need to find a happy lamp or somethin...
> 
>         -- Matt Murphy --
> 
> > does spring depress everyone as much as it does
> me...now I
> > know, it's still
> > winter but spring is just too fuckin close and
> already I am
> > feeling the
> > efects start to wear on me...it's always this time
> of year I
> > wanna kill
> > people for saying hi to me...also, does anyone
> hate
> > valentines day as much
> > as me??? one of those stupid fucking halmark
> holidays with no
> > real point
> > except to ruin my fuckin birthday... GRRRR I hate
> it...why
> > did my mom have
> > to torture me like this??? it sucks...well, I
> wanna go drink
> > som whiskey but
> > I have no money and I have to goto play
> rehearsal...did I
> > mention being a
> > theatre major gets old...anyway, enough of my
> bitching...
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BRES wrote:

> i've been poppin for a bout a year but here at school
> it's unheard of so i have nobody to learn from     is
> there any place on the net i can order a video of
> people breakin and poppin
> bres

Eww!! You want a video of people pushing pills up their
ass???

Hehe.. sorry.. had to do it.  :-P  (Remembering the 'drugs up
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Yeah, just ask Michael McCusty, I'm sure he'd be more than happy to help,
right Michael?
Jerry

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, BRES wrote:

> i've been poppin for a bout a year but here at school
> it's unheard of so i have nobody to learn from     is
> there any place on the net i can order a video of
> people breakin and poppin
> bres
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In St. Louis:

Spree will be here March 4th.
Matt Positive will be here on the 25th
Wonder Boy will be here on the 25th.

Check out www.kickenbeats.com for TONS of real audio
and info on Happy Hardcore.


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I'm interested to know what "poppin"...a dance style...(that what it soun=
ds
like to me)  So, somebody answer this question so I can be edumacated....=
and
oh by the way.....


Dj Funk allegedly drowned to death in the water main break that occured
downtown Chicago on Monday.  Apparently, a woman asked him to let here se=
e his
"dick work" and he slipped and fell, cloggin' up the water main causeing =
the
water main to burst and the Brown Line EL to stop running on Wells.  Stay=
 to
for another breaking story on Channel 7 tonight..DJ. Funk, the legend.


heh

I am the one and only MoJo JO JO
and There is no other Mojooooo JOJO!

Fuego :P




BRES <bres311@yahoo.com> wrote:
i've been poppin for a bout a year but here at school
it's unheard of so i have nobody to learn from     is
there any place on the net i can order a video of
people breakin and poppin
bres

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Bekka wrote:
> > >  http://www.undergroundlondon.com/bunny/

OK.  That ruled a whole lot.  Call me a weiner, but I thought it was funny
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Wonder Boy? I thought he fell off this planet.

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>
>I saw Curt Henning, AKA Mr. Perfect, wrestle once.

yeah but he is from mnpls!  did you ever see his dad larry "the axe" 
henning wrestle???  did he do the "spit out the gum and smack it" thing?!?


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There is an old compilation (ragga) that I am trying to figure out the name
of. The comp. contains these tracks...

"Sound Murdered"  Remarc
"Wheel Up" DJ Gunshot
"Jungle Warriors" Darkenator
"Goog Good Sensi" Bay B Kane
"Licked" DJ NKS

Anybody know what the name of the comp. was??

Anyone remember these compilations from a few years back. I think there were 
like 3 or 4 of them - each with a different style of d&b. I am trying to 
track down the "ragga" style set from this label.....any help would be 
appreciated.


later
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Yeah, I must say the bunny was funny.  Good wholesome fun.  The entire Fa=
mily
can indeed enjoy.  I give it 5 thumbs up and I'm Fuego signing off. =



:)



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> > >  http://www.undergroundlondon.com/bunny/

OK.  That ruled a whole lot.  Call me a weiner, but I thought it was funn=
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ok, i got yall's *tasty pastry* right here...
i hate all of you....mw-raves can eat it...
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i think all the floorplan parties (subsonik) are on friday nites, maybe 
every other week i think?

At 12:30 PM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
>anyone know of any friday night parties (non-club) near cincinnati in the
>next couple of months?
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There is an old compilation (ragga) that I am trying to figure out the name
of. The comp. contains these tracks...

"Sound Murdered"  Remarc
"Wheel Up" DJ Gunshot
"Jungle Warriors" Darkenator
"Goog Good Sensi" Bay B Kane
"Licked" DJ NKS

Anybody know what the name of the comp. was??

Anyone remember these compilations from a few years back. I think there were 
like 3 or 4 of them - each with a different style of d&b. I am trying to 
track down the "ragga" style set from this label.....any help would be 
appreciated.


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> Wonder Boy? I thought he fell off this planet.

it can't be the same one, and if it is, he owes me a FUCKLOAD of money

watch you back, son!

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 same here. I waited almost a year for a catalog then I ordered and
 never received anything or heard anything. I got one email response
 and the guy said he was going to check on my order and get back to
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http://sd.plushie.org/zrnet/plush.htm

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>Envelope-to: michael@happy.hardcorps.org
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>6. This is my eight child. What are you going to do about it.
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>7. Please find for certain if my husband is dead. The man I am living with 
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>8. I am very much annoyed to find that you have branded my son illiterate. 
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>13. You have changed my little boy into a girl. Will this make any
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>17. Bill Smith worked for us for six months and when he left we were 
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Subsonik Productions Presents....

Floorplan 03 (Fri.2.11.2000)

Dan Curtin. Metamorphic, Sublime. Cleveland.
Titonton. Residual, Metamorphic. Columbus.
Spirit. Technologist. Cincy.
Subgenius. Yellow Hypnotic. Cincy.
Bob-A-Dob. Stillfresh, Clubhead. Cincy.
Adam Jensen. Subsonik. Cincy.
React . Subsonik. Cincy.
Headstrong. Ruffdrapht, Subsonik. Cincy.

513.682.3282
http://subsonik.linenoiz.com
sonikbass@alloymail.com

Floorplan 01-05 is a series of high quality, low cost events featuring DJ
talent from
around the US. Each event will be held in a legal, clean, secure venue, with
bangin' sound and intelligent lighting.

michael knight wrote:

> i think all the floorplan parties (subsonik) are on friday nites, maybe
> every other week i think?
>
> At 12:30 PM 2/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >anyone know of any friday night parties (non-club) near cincinnati in the
> >next couple of months?
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Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Happy Hardcore Info--Whats the hype about?
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I think that was a typo, Wonder boy will NOT be in st.
louis, however BOY WONDER will
Laine

--- Loki <raverboy666@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Spree will be here March 4th.
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> Check out www.kickenbeats.com for TONS of real audio
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i'm sure if you ask matt positive to sing it, he'll more than happily do
it for you and it won't be to different from the atonal original too!:)
hehe!
-choppie

On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

> i still want someone to sing it for me.  i mean record yourself, make an
> mp3 of it, and send it to me.
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if anyone from lexington is going on saturday i am driving and have 2 seats 
if you want a ride.  all i ask is that you pitch in for gas.  hit me back 
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I heard Blue for the first time last Saturday.

It's total shit, plain and simple.

(and I actually like some "pop-electronica").

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hey michael or someone else, if anyone did find a
video I'd love to see it, I didn't even know they had
one.
signed
Jon "a ning nign wooooy zinga ninga nana nonono" Gotti

--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> have you guys ever seen the video for "original
> nuttah", my friend used to 
> see it on the box but i never did cos we only had
> mtv.  he said shy fx and 
> uk apache dance around in black tank tops and it is
> hilarious.  is there 
> like an mpeg of this somewhere?
> 
> 
> >We think so we are related, but we are not all the
> same.  One is Original,
> >the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> 
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In a message dated 2/9/00 7:03:02 AM !!!First Boot!!!, fergcore@earthlink.net 
writes:

<<  mw-raves@hyperreal.org >>
I have all the banners from whistle 2 
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shit talk Bad Company all you want, but I finally gave a listen to the
tracks on the forthcoming "Inside the Machine" LP, and all I can say
is...DAMN! (www.neurofunk.com if you haven't listened yet).

tracks like Hunted, Forgotten, and all the others with that super trebled
out hover... Fucking excellent!!! It's like hardcore rave all over again =D.

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i'm a 14 thousand pound man with an obviously low metabolism. i only have
three eyes and six different types of genatalia. i have other appearances
similar to people with bar body syndrome. my mother told me that i evolved
from 6 different races by cold fusion rather than pregnancy. she figured
having me the "normal" way would ruin her complexion so she became a
serial killer for a while back in the 60's and  by the time the late 70's
rolled around, my tiny mom was able to acquire all the parts needed to put
me together. however i did not gain any element of consciousness until the
mid 90's--later bloomer.oh well, all is what i have to say is that i'm the
true derivative, baby:)

i know this is a dying thread but. .

but on a serious note, carrie has it there that anthropology is an
evolving science in the sense that current theories of who we are are
changing due to new evidence provided by artifacts found (obviously from
then past). and as of this moment there is evidence that there are
multiple nodes of "origin" of homo sapiens. people have pointed to
australia, as well. i'm not an anthropologist by trade that, so don't take
that as absolute fact.

it is quite possible that the mean population of hominids could
have been around the equatorial area (south america, africa, asia). i mean
in general, quantity of live decreases as ambient tempurature decreases,
well maybe. well lets just narrow that declaration to moderate-large
terestiral mammals. 
hominids may have radiated out to colder regions, possibly in search for
food, better conditions, or maybe for religious purposes, i dunno. but as
they were able to use tools in a systematic level, moving to really cold
areas became, finally, a possibility. well i think i'm side tracking. 
i guess what i'm trying to say is that ones color is simply a trait that
is "governed" by natural selection. clothing yourself more and more
prevents the sun from attacking your skin, making melanins and other skin
pigments to be less and less useful. (at least for me in the winter my
skin gets lighter and i'm from a dark skinned asian heritage mind you). 
so ones skin complexion is governed by the environment or region one
inhabits. as for this trait getting past through generation to generation.
. i'd like to give an explanation but it would seem to Lamarkian so . i
won't.



i'll stop with this rambling. . . for now
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Hello!  My name is Yiannis.  I had heard there was a WavPhorm party on Sat, 
Feb 12, but now none of the places that were supposed to have tickets know 
anything about it.  Has anyone heard whether it's still going on?  Or is 
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Wtf...i clicked on this at work and I could not beleive what the hell "ca=
me"
(no pun intended) on my screen.  Luckily, lightning fast reflexes saved m=
e
from the humilation of my co-workers asking me...."Uh...what are you look=
ing
at"  Plushies...I have honestly never heard of such in my life.  Poor Mr.=

Teddy...being penetrated.  He doesn't even have the power to yell out for=

help......I'll have to look at this at home..where it's safe... :)

Fuego :P


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I don't think this response is waranted, trying to
prove race is of no matter by bringing up racial
issues is just stupid.
And fyi, as far as scientists and historians can prove
man began somewhere in eastern africa (one of the
oldest known pieces of man were found in Ethiopia I
know), and civilization began somewhere in the
crescent vally.

--- Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So are you saying the white man is superior, Allah? 
> Or did we (white 
> people) evolve backwards and by coincidence happen
> to be the major source of 
> intellectual thought for the last thousand years?  I
> dont see a lot of 
> science or math being done is Africa these days.
> 
> Of course I havent seen a white sprinter place above
> 4th at the 
> International level for the last couple of decades
> either...
> 
> BTW, I dont think evolution occured quite the way
> you claim it did (black 
> and Asian=original, white=derivative) but I am sure
> we are reading different 
> journals...
> 
> adam
> 
> PS:(you like to stir up controversy dont you andre
> ;)  I know, its fun!)
> 
> >From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >Reply-To: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >To: "Jerome C. Austriaco II"
> <jaustria@students.depaul.edu>
> >CC: Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net>,
> mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher:
> generation gaps
> >Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:20:53 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >
> >Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
> White people are made
> >from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
> Genetics.  Peace.
> >
> >
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Loki wrote:

> Check out www.kickenbeats.com for TONS of real audio
> and info on Happy Hardcore.

um.  for those of you who were planning on actually checking it out, the
url is www.kickinbeats.com.  with an i.

not that it matters, cause we all know happy hardcore sucks, right?  =P



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i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
my fingers is evil:)
-choppie

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> that white people cant have black children.
> We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> child is not caucasian.
> Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> us today.
> Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> whole.
> If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> 
> --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > >
> > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> > Original People, nor are they
> > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> > made from the Original
> > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> > Peace.
> > >
> > 
> > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> > Orignal People'  & "not
> > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> > mean? were not allowed
> > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> > of 'negative'
> > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> > those might not be
> > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> > 
> > 
> > tad
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> > >
> > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> > difference between race and
> > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> > 5%er...why then do you refer
> > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> > Why do you not just
> > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> > since we are all
> > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> > much about that culture,
> > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> > and Micranots are pretty
> > >> dope.
> > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> > >> Jerry
> > >> 
> > >>
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> > ___
> > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > >> 
> > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> > >> 
> > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > 
> > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> > the same.  One is
> > Original,
> > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> > >> > 
> > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> > >> > 
> > >> > > So were all related right?
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> > People. 
> > >> > > > White people are made
> > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> > and
> > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >         
> > >> > > > H
> > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >         
> > >> > > > |
> > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >      
> > >> > > > A--.--A
> > >> > > >                                            
> >        
> > >> > > > / \
> > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >        L
> > >> > > >   L
> > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> > Abu-Jamal ++++
> > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> > your sig
> > >> > > > ++++
> > >> > > > ++++ see
> > >> > > >
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> > wrote:
> > >> > > > 
> > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> > Earths, what
> > >> > > > does that make white men
> > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> > >> > > > > Jerry
> > >> > > > > 
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> > ___
> > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > >> > > > > 
> > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> > Primaries!
> > >> > > > > 
> > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > >> > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> > religious
> > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >         
> > >> > > >     H
> > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >         
> > >> > > >     |
> > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >         
> > >> > > >  A--.--A
> > >> > > > > >                                        
> >         
> > >> > > >    / \
> > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >         
> > >> > > >   L   L
> > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> > Abu-Jamal
> > >> > > > ++++
> > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> > to your
> > >> > > > sig ++++
> > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> > >> > > >
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> > "supernatural". 
> > >> > > > Everything real is
> > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> > everyone's email
> > >> > > > with religious
> > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> > interesting. 
> > >> > > > I have heard something
> > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> > Muslims (I
> > >> > > > assume you're a
> > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> > almost
> > >> > > > every religious current
> > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> > have to ask
> > >> > > > exactly what this
> > >> > > > > > > means...
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> > the
> > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> > the
> > >> > > > universe (the way many
> > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > or
> > >> > > > > > > 
> > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> > will. 
> === message truncated ===
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>Good ole Channel 7 news....
>
>and how about the Hyperreal.org page......
>
>*shakes his head*
>
>They ain't got nothing else to do..

if it isnt too much trouble, would someone fill me on this "news"cast. i 
dont live in chicago, but am very curious about this. what's all this 
hyperreal jazz?

thanks.

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i found that earlier today too... any idea when its supposed to come out?

Brandon Ivers wrote:

> shit talk Bad Company all you want, but I finally gave a listen to the
> tracks on the forthcoming "Inside the Machine" LP, and all I can say
> is...DAMN! (www.neurofunk.com if you haven't listened yet).
>
> tracks like Hunted, Forgotten, and all the others with that super trebled
> out hover... Fucking excellent!!! It's like hardcore rave all over again =D.
>
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE-- DETROIT LEGEND ALAN OLDHAM =93RETURNS=94 TO THE MOTO=
R=20
LOUNGE, 3/31/00



DETROIT-- Alan Oldham has been called =93Detroit=92s Renaissance Man=94 (Muz=
ik,=20
UK). Gaining local notoriety first as a self-published comic book=20
writer/artist (Johnny Gambit, 1987), then as late-night radio=92s most=20
notorious personality as the longtime host of WDET-FM=92s first electronic=20
dance music program =93Fast Forward=94 (1987-1992), breaking the first music=
=20
(much of it on cassette and reel-to-reel !) of such now-familiar names as=20
Underground Resistance, Derrick May, Richie Hawtin, Carl Craig, Kenny Larkin=
=20
and many others. Oldham ditched the thankless radio gig and went worldwide i=
n=20
1992 first as Underground Resistance tour DJ (taking on the psuedonym DJ=20
T-1000 at the behest of UR=92s Mad Mike), then as solo international DJ, and=
=20
finally as owner of one of Detroit=92s most consistent techno labels, Genera=
tor=20
(1992-1996).

After ending the artist-driven Generator and replacing it with his own solo=20=
Pu
re Sonik label, Oldham continued to produce records and travel the globe as=20
Detroit=92s only hard techno ambassador. While mostly all of Detroit=92s mus=
ical=20
talent turned to Europe, Oldham blazed a trail through America=92s own thriv=
ing=20
Midwest rave scene of the early-to-mid 90s, honing his live show in the USA=20
and making his name domestically before going on to rock such massive=20
European events as Mayday (Berlin) and Tribal Gathering (London), all the=20
while producing distinctive artwork for the Netherlands-based Djax Records=20
label.

In October, 1999, the talented Mr. Oldham released his first proper album as=
=20
DJ T-1000 on the Berlin-based Tresor label: =93Progress=94. A World Tour=20
followed, beginning with a one-month stand in Germany and winding its way=20
through Spain, Portugal, The Netherlands and Canada before culminating on Ne=
w=20
Year=92s Eve 2000 in Los Angeles.

During this time, however, Oldham has not played a major Detroit rave or clu=
b=20
date in over a year.

It=92s to this end that DJ T-1000 comes home to the Motor Lounge for =93The=20
Return=94, Friday, March 31, 2000 to properly celebrate the American release=
 of=20
=93Progress=94. Rocking three decks and Alesis Microverb, Oldham will spin a=
n=20
extended techno symphony that will include a few musical surprises from the=20
old days.

Accompanying him on this dizzying musical journey is good friend, Chicago=20
hard techno icon and international playboy Mike Dearborn. Known globally for=
=20
his recordings for Djax and for producing legendary Midwest parties like=20
=93Planet Djax=94 and =93Countdown=94, Dearborn now runs his own Majesty lab=
el and=20
rocks decks around the world.

Opening ambience will be provided by Liz Copeland (WDET-FM, Channel 56=92s=20
=93Backstage Pass=94) in her main-room debut.

=93The Return=94 will be broadcast LIVE on 89X.

Oldham will guest on 89X=92s =93X2K=94 program in advance of =93The Return=
=94; date TBA.

DJ T-1000 "Progress" 2x12"/CD is available now on Tresor Records Berlin.

A limited-edition DJ T-1000 mix CD to commemorate =93The Return=94 will be=20
available FREE to the first 500 in attendance. This CD will never be made=20
commercially available or re-pressed.

=93The Return=93 is sponsored by Pure Sonik Records Detroit. Motor Detroit.=20
Tresor Berlin.

For more info: 313-369-0080
www.motordetroit.com
www.puresonikrecords.net (underconstruction)
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My post was self explanatory, take it or leave it alone.  Peace.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Tad wrote:

> I'm sending this again b/c you didn't bother to reply or you missed it... 
> 
> Really I would appreciate an answer to my question.. or an explanation,  if
> that is beyond your abilities  to explain what you mean... dont bother
> talking about it or pretending to be so erudite.  Really I have yet to seen
> anything 'negatively Racist' from you but its obvious that it is 1. right
> below the surface  or 2. your just trying to start shit.   So please put up
> or shut up.
> 
> What does that following mean?  pretty big sounding words but really if you
> cant or wont quantify  them.  You might as well just tell everyone your the
> grand poobah of shamballa.
> 
> Peace,
> 
> tad
> 
> >>Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
> >>the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
> >>Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.
> >>
> >
> >So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest Orignal People'  &
> "not Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that mean? were not
> allowed into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort of 'negative'
> connotations here... although I'm willing to admit those might not be
> justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >
> >
> >tad
> >
> >
> >
> >>On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >>
> >>> First off, I most definitely understand the difference between race and
> >>> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the 5%er...why then do you refer
> >>> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?  Why do you not just
> >>> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths since we are all
> >>> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know much about that culture,
> >>> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers and Micranots are pretty
> >>> dope.
> >>> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >>> Jerry
> >>> 
> >>>
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >>> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >>> 
> >>> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > 
> >>> > We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is
> Original,
> >>> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >>> > 
> >>> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>> > > So were all related right?
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
> >>> > > > White people are made
> >>> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
> >>> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
> >>> > > > H
> >>> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
> >>> > > > |
> >>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
> >>> > > > A--.--A
> >>> > > >                                                    
> >>> > > > / \
> >>> > > > 5% Network                                         L
> >>> > > >   L
> >>> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >>> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >>> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
> >>> > > > ++++
> >>> > > > ++++ see
> >>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
> >>> > > > does that make white men
> >>> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >>> > > > > Jerry
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> ___
> >>> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >>> > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
> >>> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
> >>> > > >     H
> >>> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
> >>> > > >     |
> >>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
> >>> > > >  A--.--A
> >>> > > > > >                                                 
> >>> > > >    / \
> >>> > > > > > 5% Network                                      
> >>> > > >   L   L
> >>> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >>> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
> >>> > > > ++++
> >>> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
> >>> > > > sig ++++
> >>> > > > > > ++++ see
> >>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
> >>> > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
> >>> > > > Everything real is
> >>> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
> >>> > > > with religious
> >>> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
> >>> > > > I have heard something
> >>> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
> >>> > > > assume you're a
> >>> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
> >>> > > > every religious current
> >>> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
> >>> > > > exactly what this
> >>> > > > > > > means...
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
> >>> > > > universe as opposed to
> >>> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
> >>> > > > universe (the way many
> >>> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > or
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >>> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >>> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
> >>> > > > This view seems to be
> >>> > > > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
> >>> > > > old as Islam, but I
> >>> > > > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
> >>> > > > information-theory
> >>> > > > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
> >>> > > > that these things are
> >>> > > > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
> >>> > > > patterns that live in
> >>> > > > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
> >>> > > > them.. entities
> >>> > > > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
> >>> > > > brain-space.)
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > or
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
> >>> > > > know...
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > 
> >>> > > > > > > -
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> >>> > > > 
> >>> > > __________________________________________________
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Wavphorm has been cacelled for a while now... The guy that was going to throw
it was my roomate, but the first weekend of this year, he picked up and left
town with all of his investors' money, and without telling anyone including
myself... someone is trying to throw it still, but the guy has no idea what
he's doing... he's attempting to throw it on Sunday, Feb 13th... he's barely
given out any flyers for it AND its on a sunday... this is the same guy that
wants to throw a "Rave" in Riverfront Statdium here in cincinnati with the
Beastie Boys and Wu-Tang Clan...  dont waset your money on this lil party he's
throwing on sunday....

peace,
Grant

Yiannis Kanellopoulos wrote:

> Hello!  My name is Yiannis.  I had heard there was a WavPhorm party on Sat,
> Feb 12, but now none of the places that were supposed to have tickets know
> anything about it.  Has anyone heard whether it's still going on?  Or is
> anything else going on Saturday?!?  Thanks :)))
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, doris wrote:
> not that it matters, cause we all know happy hardcore sucks, right?  =P

Word.

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No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
Peace.

Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
                                                    / \
5% Network                                         L   L
http://www.nge.org
http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)

    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:

> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
> my fingers is evil:)
> -choppie
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> 
> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> > that white people cant have black children.
> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> > child is not caucasian.
> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> > us today.
> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> > whole.
> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> > 
> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> > > Original People, nor are they
> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> > > made from the Original
> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> > > Peace.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> > > mean? were not allowed
> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> > > of 'negative'
> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> > > those might not be
> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > tad
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> > > difference between race and
> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> > > Why do you not just
> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> > > since we are all
> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> > > much about that culture,
> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> > > and Micranots are pretty
> > > >> dope.
> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> > > >> Jerry
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> > > ___
> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > > >> 
> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> > > >> 
> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> > > the same.  One is
> > > Original,
> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> > > People. 
> > > >> > > > White people are made
> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> > > and
> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> > >         
> > > >> > > > H
> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> > >         
> > > >> > > > |
> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> > >      
> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> > > >> > > >                                            
> > >        
> > > >> > > > / \
> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> > >        L
> > > >> > > >   L
> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> > > your sig
> > > >> > > > ++++
> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> > > >> > > >
> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> > > Earths, what
> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> > > >> > > > > 
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > >
> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> > > ___
> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> > > >> > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> > > Primaries!
> > > >> > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > >> > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> > > religious
> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> > > >> > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> > >         
> > > >> > > >     H
> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> > >         
> > > >> > > >     |
> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> > >         
> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> > >         
> > > >> > > >    / \
> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> > >         
> > > >> > > >   L   L
> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> > > >> > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> > > Abu-Jamal
> > > >> > > > ++++
> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> > > to your
> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> > > >> > > >
> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> > > >> > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> > > "supernatural". 
> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> > > everyone's email
> > > >> > > > with religious
> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> > > interesting. 
> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> > > Muslims (I
> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> > > almost
> > > >> > > > every religious current
> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> > > have to ask
> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> > > the
> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> > > the
> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > or
> > > >> > > > > > > 
> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> > > will. 
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I was just reading the newspaper, getting up to date info on what's happening 
in the world around me when I came across an article on TV stations.  It 
seems as though the UPN is in the works of creating a new series titled:  

"Monster Truck 2000:  The New Thrillennium"

Wow.  Someday I'll post my monster truck show poem I wrote out of boredom at 
work if you like.  Just let me know  :)  haha

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and every other eastern seaboard mega-rave...

Trevor Lamont wrote:

> and Whistle 1. :)
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Mr. Mistykiss" <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
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> Same as whistle 2.
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> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 Panked@aol.com wrote:
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I'm sure it's a very nice poem Ms. Bus.  However, we are not currently 
accepting submissions at this time.

Have a nice day!  :)


>From: Sixtybus@aol.com
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>Subject: [Midwest-Trance] NRR:  Monster Trucks
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:41:04 EST
>
>
>I was just reading the newspaper, getting up to date info on what's 
>happening
>in the world around me when I came across an article on TV stations.  It
>seems as though the UPN is in the works of creating a new series titled:
>
>"Monster Truck 2000:  The New Thrillennium"
>
>Wow.  Someday I'll post my monster truck show poem I wrote out of boredom 
>at
>work if you like.  Just let me know  :)  haha
>
>Jen Sixtybus
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Liquid Groove presents...

LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE

Saturday April 1st 2000
Atlanta GA
North Atlanta Trade Center

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


- RABBIT IN THE MOON
  (hallucination, fl)


- SASHA
  (twilo, northern exsposure, UK)


- JOHN DIGWEED
  (twilo, bedrock, UK)


- JIM MASTERS
  (ultimate base, UK)


- GROOVERIDER
  (metalheadz, UK)


- FABIO
  (metalheadz, UK)


- GARTH
  (wicked crew, san fran)

+ a ton of local and regional djs to be added on the MAIN FLIER!

we may be adding more headliners to this when the main flier comes out as
well.
Be on the lookout for Full color teasers out this weekend.

for more info call
404-2572515

Peace
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Yiannis Kanellopoulos wrote:

Umm coming from a Cincinnati native, I would rather stay home and stick
pins under my fingernails then attend anything other than 2/1200 in
Louisville on Sat, Feb 12th. I suggest that, no offense to Cincy parties,
but ummm given the reputation of this town, and the fact that we have
something going on that's awesome _once in a while_ (ahem, Dave Clarke on
Thursday night at LIFT), I'd venture to say nothing anyone does on
Saturday night here can compare to what you'll experience in Louisville.

If you wanna party here on Friday night, check out the Subsonik party, but
I'd ditch Cincinnati and Saturday and drive the hour and a half to
Louisville if I were you.

> Hello!  My name is Yiannis.  I had heard there was a WavPhorm party on Sat, 
> Feb 12, but now none of the places that were supposed to have tickets know 
> anything about it.  Has anyone heard whether it's still going on?  Or is 
> anything else going on Saturday?!?  Thanks :)))

-Becky =)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 00:15:13 2000
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Subject: [mw] Re: [stl] Happy Hardcore Info--Whats the hype about?
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Oops my bad!

BOY WONDER it is....



hell maybe we can get Spider Man and Wonder Woman to
come down as well....?
--- Laine <junglejunkey@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think that was a typo, Wonder boy will NOT be in
> st.
> louis, however BOY WONDER will
> Laine
> 
> --- Loki <raverboy666@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > In St. Louis:
> > 
> > Spree will be here March 4th.
> > Matt Positive will be here on the 25th
> > Wonder Boy will be here on the 25th.
> > 
> > Check out www.kickenbeats.com for TONS of real
> audio
> > and info on Happy Hardcore.
> > 
> > 
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becky wrote:

Umm coming from a Cincinnati native, I would rather stay home and stick
pins under my fingernails then attend anything other than 2/1200 in
Louisville on Sat, Feb 12th. I suggest that, no offense to Cincy parties,
but ummm given the reputation of this town, and the fact that we have
something going on that's awesome _once in a while_ (ahem, Dave Clarke on
Thursday night at LIFT), I'd venture to say nothing anyone does on
Saturday night here can compare to what you'll experience in Louisville.

If you wanna party here on Friday night, check out the Subsonik party, but
I'd ditch Cincinnati and Saturday and drive the hour and a half to
Louisville if I were you.


-Becky =)


Don't forget that Friday is the Mark Farina tour in Indy too if you wanna 
travel. I'm not sure who is throwing it but it's Mark Farina!!!!

Saturday, I agree with Becky.  Louisville WILL be the place to be.  
Unfortunately I will miss this one because I'm in Dallas.  I had to get on 
JJ for not telling me about his party before I took the booking in Dallas.  
Damn!!!!! I'm gonna miss Richie again.

See everyone at Lift tommorrow...Dave mother f**king Clarke
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O.k.

Because I had no knowledge of what "Poppin'" was I took the liberty to se=
arch
it out. I found that I already knew the answer, I was just unfamiliar wit=
h the
the terminology used.

So to Bres, here are a couple of Popper Sites :)

Now that I remember..didn't Re Run from  What's Happening

here ya go

http://www.uic.edu/~williams

http://www.msu.edu/user/okumarak

http://www.actor.force9.co.uk/bodypop.htm


take it easy...


Fuego :P

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 >Who is going?
 >
 >        ~T

Me, DJ Storm, Heather Heiman, and Scott Collins
are making the trek out to Pittsburgh for this from
Wisconsin.  We're taking off tomorrow night, staying
over in Indiana, and getting there EARLY (for a change)
on Saturday.  Which would be good, considering Glen
is spinning before midnight.

I'll probably be dorkin' it full-on in a "Wisconsin"
shirt or something.

Oh yeah...and um...Richie Hawtin can do something.


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 >i've been poppin for a bout a year but here at school
 >it's unheard of so i have nobody to learn from is
 >there any place on the net i can order a video of
 >people breakin and poppin
 >bres

Bres, I can't help you in the video department, but
I can tell you this: Everything I know about popping
I learned from the excellent 1982? book,

"Breakdancing: Mr. Fresh and the Supreme
Rockers Show You How"

But it's not easy to find.  I found it in the Milwaukee
Public Libraries originally, but there doesn't seem to
be a copy anywhere in Madison (one of the largest
libraries in the midwest my butt).

If nothing else, there's a big list of movies in it that
feature breakdancing/popping/locking whatever.

R3praz3nt.


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 >"Monster Truck 2000:  The New Thrillennium"

Radical!  Be there be there be there!

 >Wow.  Someday I'll post my monster truck show poem I wrote out of boredom at
 >work if you like.  Just let me know  :)  haha

Being familiar with many of Jen's literary works,
including the aforementioned poem, I think if we
make her post something, we should definitely
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The old persons zine is solid gold.


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 maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
>
>No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
>him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
>Peace.
>
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>
>On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
>
>> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
>> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
>> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
>> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
>> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
>> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
>> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
>> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
>> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
>> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
>> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
>> my fingers is evil:)
>> -choppie
>> 
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> 
>> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
>> > that white people cant have black children.
>> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
>> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
>> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
>> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
>> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
>> > child is not caucasian.
>> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
>> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
>> > us today.
>> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
>> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
>> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
>> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
>> > whole.
>> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
>> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
>> > 
>> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
>> > > Original People, nor are they
>> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
>> > > made from the Original
>> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
>> > > Peace.
>> > > >
>> > > 
>> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
>> > > Orignal People'  & "not
>> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
>> > > mean? were not allowed
>> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
>> > > of 'negative'
>> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
>> > > those might not be
>> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > tad
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
>> > > difference between race and
>> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
>> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
>> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
>> > > Why do you not just
>> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
>> > > since we are all
>> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
>> > > much about that culture,
>> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
>> > > and Micranots are pretty
>> > > >> dope.
>> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
>> > > >> Jerry
>> > > >> 
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > ____________________________________________________________________________
>> > > ___
>> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> > > >> 
>> > > >> > 
>> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
>> > > the same.  One is
>> > > Original,
>> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
>> > > >> > 
>> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> > > >> > 
>> > > >> > > So were all related right?
>> > > >> > > 
>> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > 
>> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
>> > > People. 
>> > > >> > > > White people are made
>> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
>> > > and
>> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
>> > > >> > > > 
>> > > >> > > > 
>> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
>> > >         
>> > > >> > > > H
>> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
>> > >         
>> > > >> > > > |
>> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
>> > >      
>> > > >> > > > A--.--A
>> > > >> > > >                                            
>> > >        
>> > > >> > > > / \
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>> > >        L
>> > > >> > > >   L
>> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
>> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> > > >> > > > 
>> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
>> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
>> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
>> > > your sig
>> > > >> > > > ++++
>> > > >> > > > ++++ see
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> > > >> > > > 
>> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
>> > > Earths, what
>> > > >> > > > does that make white men
>> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
>> > > >> > > > > Jerry
>> > > >> > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > >
>> > ____________________________________________________________________________
>> > > ___
>> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> > > >> > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
>> > > Primaries!
>> > > >> > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
>> > > religious
>> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>> > > >> > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
>> > >         
>> > > >> > > >     H
>> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
>> > >         
>> > > >> > > >     |
>> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
>> > >         
>> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
>> > > >> > > > > >                                        
>> > >         
>> > > >> > > >    / \
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>> > >         
>> > > >> > > >   L   L
>> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
>> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> > > >> > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
>> > > Abu-Jamal
>> > > >> > > > ++++
>> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
>> > > to your
>> > > >> > > > sig ++++
>> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> > > >> > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
>> > > "supernatural". 
>> > > >> > > > Everything real is
>> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
>> > > everyone's email
>> > > >> > > > with religious
>> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
>> > > interesting. 
>> > > >> > > > I have heard something
>> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
>> > > Muslims (I
>> > > >> > > > assume you're a
>> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
>> > > almost
>> > > >> > > > every religious current
>> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
>> > > have to ask
>> > > >> > > > exactly what this
>> > > >> > > > > > > means...
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
>> > > the
>> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
>> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
>> > > the
>> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
>> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > or
>> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
>> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
>> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
>> > > will. 
>> > === message truncated ===
>> > __________________________________________________
>> > Do You Yahoo!?
>> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
>> > http://im.yahoo.com
>> > 
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The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
parents who did not take on their responsibility.
There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
Peace.


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++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++


On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> --
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
> >Peace.
> >
> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                    / \
> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >http://www.nge.org
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >
> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> -choppie
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> > us today.
> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> > whole.
> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> > 
> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> > > made from the Original
> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> >> > > Peace.
> >> > > >
> >> > > 
> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> > > those might not be
> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > tad
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> > > difference between race and
> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> > > since we are all
> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> > > >> dope.
> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >>
> >> > >
> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> > > ___
> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> > > >> 
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> > > Original,
> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> > > >> > 
> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> > > >> > > 
> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> > > People. 
> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> > > and
> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >> > >      
> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> > > >> > > >                                            
> >> > >        
> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >> > >        L
> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> > > your sig
> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> > > Earths, what
> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> > > ___
> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> > > Primaries!
> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> > > religious
> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >> > >         
> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> > > to your
> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> > > "supernatural". 
> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> > > everyone's email
> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> > > interesting. 
> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> > > almost
> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> > > have to ask
> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> > > will. 
> >> > === message truncated ===
> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> > Do You Yahoo!?
> >> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> >> > http://im.yahoo.com
> >> > 
> >> > -
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> >> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >
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me i think, unless i get a ride to columbus for the hc show!

jester

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>Who is going?
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 01:45:30 2000
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Subject: [mw] One more thing about LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE
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sorry i forgot to put this in my first post.

This is in regards to the LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE party in atlanta.

If you attended Liquid Grooves 5 year anniversary on halloween where sasha
didn't make it and you still have your ticket stub then you will get in ALOT
cheaper the actual door cover. I will explain it in the next e-mail with all
the party info.

Peace
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 01:50:03 2000
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these guys fucking rule, hehehehe

www.mp3.com/celticanarchy

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i need to get a hold of dan doormouse.


im also looking for people that can mc to dark jungle as well as happy hardcore.

and if anyone wants to try to mc to hardcore, wait i can scream, nevermind.

jester

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 02:01:31 2000
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i also need to get a hold of Troll...


that is all for tonight, if you havent been paged, rest not, for the jester will be calling for you soon enough!!

tired, hungry, naked.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 02:41:28 2000
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Subject: [mw] Re: [kc] Re: sat 12
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and BEER

----- Original Message ----- 
From: S. Freshnock. mr offtrack <sfreshnock@yahoo.com>

> I think alot of people will be attending No Mercy. Can
> you blame them? Its a fantastic night of music.
> 
> peace,
> Offtrack
> 
> 
> --- gabriel peper <biggubby@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Is anyone hitting mercy
> > 
> > >From: Rachel Martz <rachelm@swbell.net>
> > >Reply-To: rachelm@swbell.net
> > >To: kc-raves@egroups.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> > stl-raves@egroups.com
> > >Subject: [kc] KC EVENT SAT FEB 12
> > >Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:41:35 -0500
> > >
> > >NO MERCY
> > >Valentine's Day Weekend
> > >Saturday February 12, 2000
> > >Kansas City Area
> > >9:30pm - 7am
> > >
> > >We're setting up the sound in the afternoon, so
> > everything WILL BE ready
> > >to go at 9:30pm.  If we have a line like we did at
> > Natural Disaster, we
> > >will open the doors early (with a dj on-hand, and
> > ready to
> > >play).
> > >
> > >COST:
> > >
> > >$16.00  (Yes, this includes professional lighting)
> > >PLEASE BRING EXACT CHANGE
> > >
> > >
> > >LINE-UP
> > >
> > >Carlos [San Francisco] (S.F. House Collective)
> > >DDR [U.K. Live acid-techno PA] (Smitten, Stay-Up
> > Forever)
> > >Roman [Seattle] (Funky Techno Tribe,
> > NativeVision.com)
> > >Ryan Tinsley [Chicago} (tech-house)
> > >My Friend Mike/Nico [Kansas City] (ambient dnb)
> > >Offtrack [Kansas]
> > >DJ Gruve [Chicago]
> > >
> > >INFOLINES:
> > >
> > >816.292.2881
> > >816.871.5151
> > >816.920.3578 (messages only)
> > >
> > >SAME PLACE AS NATURAL DISASTER - GUARANTEED NOT TO
> > GET SHUT-DOWN
> > >
> > >DIRECTIONS (A LITTLE MORE COMPLETE THAN IN THE
> > PAST):
> > >
> > >[] indicates road/street name
> > >
> > > >From east (downtown KC):
> > >
> > >I-70W
> > >To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
> > >Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7
> > (Northbound).
> > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > [Parallel Parkway].
> > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > >
> > > >From west:
> > >
> > >TOLL
> > >I-70E
> > >To Bonner Springs Exit
> > >Through tollgate, turn left onto Highway 7
> > (Northbound).
> > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > [Parallel Parkway].
> > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > >
> > >TOLLFREE
> > >K-10 E (LEAVING LAWRENCE)
> > >TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
> > >Follow north (eventually you'll see the tollbooths
> > that are off I70)
> > >just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
> > >To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
> > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > >
> > > >From north:
> > >I-35S
> > >To I-70W
> > >To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
> > >Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7
> > (Northbound).
> > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > [Parallel Parkway].
> > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > >
> > >
> > > >From south:
> > >
> > >TOLL
> > >I-35N
> > >To I-70W
> > >To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
> > >Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7
> > (Northbound).
> > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > [Parallel Parkway].
> > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > >
> > >TOLLFREE
> > >I-435W
> > >K-10 (WEST)
> > >TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
> > >Follow north (eventually you'll see the tollbooths
> > that are off I70)
> > >just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
> > >To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
> > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > >
> > >Venue is named:  Racer's 2  [Big lit sign in the
> > sky]
> > >
> > >*Please note:
> > >
> > >Highway 7 is a divided highway with a posted speed
> > limit of 65 mph.  Get
> > >in the left lane as you approach the second 4-way
> > stoplight.  You will
> > >have to turn left abruptly from the fast lane of
> > the highway.  I suggest
> > >not picking up too much speed once you leave the
> > light because its a
> > >sharp left turn without a turn lane and poorly lit.
> >  It's REALLY easy to
> > >miss.
> > >
> > >www.syquil.com
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >Valentine's Day Shopping Made Simple.
> >
> >http://click.egroups.com/1/1158/3/_/4270/_/949972946/
> > >
> > >-- Talk to your group with your own voice!
> > >--
> >
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> > >
> > >
> > 
> >
> ______________________________________________________
> > 
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
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> > --
> >
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> > 
> > 
> 
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> 3. Fenton & Thomas "Audio 23" [Audio] 
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is there anyone from St. Louis that can do one of the two...or even two. I 
would *heart* you!

1) Tell me of any parties going on April First....

2) offer me and one or two people a ride, or a hookup for a ride..

i'm coming to st. louis for a stupid fucking choir trip, i'm missing showdown 
II also. damnit...

please hit me back. it would mean a lot!

sarah.

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>From: "Carrie Lynn McDonough" <carrienegative@angelfire.com>
>Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 19:33:29 -0600
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>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a 
>proper scentence.

irony.  gotta love it.

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At 06:00 PM 2/9/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>
>My post was self explanatory, take it or leave it alone.  Peace.

I'll take it that you dont really know what your talking about, if you are
incapable of putting it into any other words.  Your are just repeating
random drivel that obviously has no meaning to you.  Your post is rather
engimatic and not self-explanatory in the least.  

peace,

tad

>
>On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Tad wrote:
>
>> I'm sending this again b/c you didn't bother to reply or you missed it... 
>> 
>> Really I would appreciate an answer to my question.. or an explanation,  if
>> that is beyond your abilities  to explain what you mean... dont bother
>> talking about it or pretending to be so erudite.  Really I have yet to seen
>> anything 'negatively Racist' from you but its obvious that it is 1. right
>> below the surface  or 2. your just trying to start shit.   So please put up
>> or shut up.
>> 
>> What does that following mean?  pretty big sounding words but really if you
>> cant or wont quantify  them.  You might as well just tell everyone your the
>> grand poobah of shamballa.
>> 
>> Peace,
>> 
>> tad
>> 
>> >>Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest Original People, nor are they
>> >>the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are made from the Original
>> >>Man, and so is the root of their civilization.  Peace.
>> >>
>> >
>> >So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest Orignal People'  &
>> "not Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that mean? were not
>> allowed into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort of 'negative'
>> connotations here... although I'm willing to admit those might not be
>> justified.  So please explain yourself.
>> >
>> >
>> >tad
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> First off, I most definitely understand the difference between race and
>> >>> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the 5%er...why then do you
refer
>> >>> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?  Why do you not just
>> >>> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths since we are all
>> >>> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know much about that culture,
>> >>> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers and Micranots are pretty
>> >>> dope.
>> >>> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
>> >>> Jerry
>> >>> 
>> >>>
>>
____________________________________________________________________________
>> ___
>> >>> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> >>> 
>> >>> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > We think so we are related, but we are not all the same.  One is
>> Original,
>> >>> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > > So were all related right?
>> >>> > > 
>> >>> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu> wrote:
>> >>> > > > 
>> >>> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black) People. 
>> >>> > > > White people are made
>> >>> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology and
>> >>> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
>> >>> > > > 
>> >>> > > > 
>> >>> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                         
>> >>> > > > H
>> >>> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                               
>> >>> > > > |
>> >>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html             
>> >>> > > > A--.--A
>> >>> > > >                                                    
>> >>> > > > / \
>> >>> > > > 5% Network                                         L
>> >>> > > >   L
>> >>> > > > http://www.nge.org
>> >>> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >>> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >>> > > > 
>> >>> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>> >>> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig
>> >>> > > > ++++
>> >>> > > > ++++ see
>> >>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >>> > > > 
>> >>> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>> >>> > > > 
>> >>> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and Earths, what
>> >>> > > > does that make white men
>> >>> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
>> >>> > > > > Jerry
>> >>> > > > > 
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > >
>>
____________________________________________________________________________
>> ___
>> >>> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> >>> > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> >>> > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >>> > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a religious
>> >>> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>> >>> > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                     
>> >>> > > >     H
>> >>> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                           
>> >>> > > >     |
>> >>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html            
>> >>> > > >  A--.--A
>> >>> > > > > >                                                 
>> >>> > > >    / \
>> >>> > > > > > 5% Network                                      
>> >>> > > >   L   L
>> >>> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
>> >>> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >>> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >>> > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal
>> >>> > > > ++++
>> >>> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your
>> >>> > > > sig ++++
>> >>> > > > > > ++++ see
>> >>> > > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >>> > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as "supernatural". 
>> >>> > > > Everything real is
>> >>> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood everyone's email
>> >>> > > > with religious
>> >>> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this interesting. 
>> >>> > > > I have heard something
>> >>> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other Muslims (I
>> >>> > > > assume you're a
>> >>> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about almost
>> >>> > > > every religious current
>> >>> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I have to ask
>> >>> > > > exactly what this
>> >>> > > > > > > means...
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > Does this mean:
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of the
>> >>> > > > universe as opposed to
>> >>> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from the
>> >>> > > > universe (the way many
>> >>> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > or
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
>> >>> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
>> >>> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you will. 
>> >>> > > > This view seems to be
>> >>> > > > > > > a bit too modern to be part of something as
>> >>> > > > old as Islam, but I
>> >>> > > > > > > could be mistaken.  (This is the modern
>> >>> > > > information-theory
>> >>> > > > > > > interpretation of 'angels', 'demons', etc...
>> >>> > > > that these things are
>> >>> > > > > > > 'cultural metaprograms'... semi-sentient
>> >>> > > > patterns that live in
>> >>> > > > > > > the space between people as opposed to within
>> >>> > > > them.. entities
>> >>> > > > > > > that live in culture-space instead of
>> >>> > > > brain-space.)
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > or
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > c) Something totally different that I don't
>> >>> > > > know...
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > 
>> >>> > > > > > > 
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At 07:22 PM 2/9/00 -0600, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:
> >Who is going?
> >
> >        ~T
>
>Me, DJ Storm, Heather Heiman, and Scott Collins
>are making the trek out to Pittsburgh for this from
>Wisconsin.  We're taking off tomorrow night, staying
>over in Indiana, and getting there EARLY (for a change)
>on Saturday.  Which would be good, considering Glen
>is spinning before midnight.

If your arriving on saturday... your going to be really late... not early :P
And I too will be there :)


tad

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>I'll probably be dorkin' it full-on in a "Wisconsin"
>shirt or something.
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>Oh yeah...and um...Richie Hawtin can do something.
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Sista' Jade Entertainment Spring Schedule:

Friday March 17, 2000
Sista' Jade Entertainment and the House of Babylon bring you

Panty Raid (the Pleasure Dome pre-party)

Frankie Vega
Mazi
Three Jay
Jaede
Charles Paul

$5 before Midnight $10 after
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Saturday March 18, 2000

Sista' Jade Entertainment and the House of Babylon join forces once again to 
bring you

"The Pleasure Dome"

featuring:

A-Track
Scott Henry
Nigel Richards
Product 19
Chocolate the freaky afro-naut
Blair Brown
Jaede

$20 before Midnight $25 after
doors open at 9:00 p.m. so get there early!

Keep your eyes open for both fliers!

______________________________________________________________________

Friday May 26  pre-party
Saturday May 27   main party
Sunday May 28   after party

Sista' Jade Entertainment brings you

"Absolute Undaground"

The Sista' Jade Entertainment 1 year anniversary party.

Line up will be announced in the next week or so.

Keep eyes open for the pre-fliers

Info lines

Sista' Jade Entertainment 317-704-1642   sistajade@email.com
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Okay, I don't even remember where this letter originally started or what the 
point is but what I've drawn from it are these key factors...

There's some dude who claims not to be religious but still claims to be the 
supreme being "Allah" who is showing some very racist ideas that I'm sure not 
many of us are happy about.

I've lost what the main point of the whole debate was, so I have this to 
say...
I am proud of the strength of my ancestors, and what they went through to 
stay true to their beliefs. I believe that will always be a part of me and 
was planned out since the beginning and will always be a part of everyone in 
my bloodline as long as our heritage is taught to the younger generations.
I am proud of being a son of civilization. I am glad to live in a world where 
we are commonly in the mental state of equal rights for all and have a sense 
of common morality and correctness.
I am proud to be a son of the earth. This is a wonderful place, bad things 
happen, good things happen, it's motion. We keep on going.
I am proud to be a descendant of the original man, Adam. The human race is a 
fascinating race.
I am proud of being a son of my God. I love him, trust him, and believe him 
to be all-knowing. He cares for me and guides me in the right direction. When 
I follow him I am going the right way for good things to happen to me.
I am proud of being open-minded. I am glad I can easily-debate the 
differences in peoples and still come out with a general idea that the human 
race is still going more better than worse.
I am proud.
Thank you for reading.
~Chris Menning

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What city?

Thanks.

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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----- Original Message -----
From: rhiannon thomas <sistajade@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:18 PM
Subject: [mw] Sista' Jade Entertainment Spring Schedule


> Sista' Jade Entertainment Spring Schedule:
>
> Friday March 17, 2000
> Sista' Jade Entertainment and the House of Babylon bring you
>
> Panty Raid (the Pleasure Dome pre-party)
>
> Frankie Vega
> Mazi
> Three Jay
> Jaede
> Charles Paul
>
> $5 before Midnight $10 after
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
>
> Saturday March 18, 2000
>
> Sista' Jade Entertainment and the House of Babylon join forces once again
to
> bring you
>
> "The Pleasure Dome"
>
> featuring:
>
> A-Track
> Scott Henry
> Nigel Richards
> Product 19
> Chocolate the freaky afro-naut
> Blair Brown
> Jaede
>
> $20 before Midnight $25 after
> doors open at 9:00 p.m. so get there early!
>
> Keep your eyes open for both fliers!
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Friday May 26  pre-party
> Saturday May 27   main party
> Sunday May 28   after party
>
> Sista' Jade Entertainment brings you
>
> "Absolute Undaground"
>
> The Sista' Jade Entertainment 1 year anniversary party.
>
> Line up will be announced in the next week or so.
>
> Keep eyes open for the pre-fliers
>
> Info lines
>
> Sista' Jade Entertainment 317-704-1642   sistajade@email.com
> House of Babylon  317-592-9236    houseofbabylon@netscape.net
>
> Peace!!!



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>From: DJDolorem@aol.com
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] Cypher whatever religious whootchamajig
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:27:25 EST
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>Okay, I don't even remember where this letter originally started or what 
>the
>point is but what I've drawn from it are these key factors...
>
[cut]
>
>I am proud to be a descendant of the original man, Adam.

I prefer to be known as "Original Jam Master Flex" but whatever works.

Thanks for the praise though!

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His name is Jay Day ..
He is from Dayton ohio im tryen to find out what happened to him..
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I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are assholes like you around.
 If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country taken from them.
Eat shit!

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
>
>The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
>saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
>people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
>parents who did not take on their responsibility.
>There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
>Peace.
>
>
>Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
>allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
>http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
>                                                    / \
>5% Network                                         L   L
>http://www.nge.org
>http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>
>    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
>++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>
>
>On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
>
>>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
>> --
>> 
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >
>> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
>> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
>> >Peace.
>> >
>> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
>> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
>> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
>> >                                                    / \
>> >5% Network                                         L   L
>> >http://www.nge.org
>> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >
>> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
>> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >
>> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
>> >
>> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
>> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
>> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
>> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
>> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
>> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
>> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
>> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
>> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
>> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
>> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
>> >> my fingers is evil:)
>> >> -choppie
>> >> 
>> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
>> >> > that white people cant have black children.
>> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
>> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
>> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
>> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
>> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
>> >> > child is not caucasian.
>> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
>> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
>> >> > us today.
>> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
>> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
>> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
>> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
>> >> > whole.
>> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
>> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
>> >> > 
>> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
>> >> > > Original People, nor are they
>> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
>> >> > > made from the Original
>> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
>> >> > > Peace.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
>> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
>> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
>> >> > > mean? were not allowed
>> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
>> >> > > of 'negative'
>> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
>> >> > > those might not be
>> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > tad
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
>> >> > > difference between race and
>> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
>> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
>> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
>> >> > > Why do you not just
>> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
>> >> > > since we are all
>> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
>> >> > > much about that culture,
>> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
>> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
>> >> > > >> dope.
>> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
>> >> > > >> Jerry
>> >> > > >> 
>> >> > > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
>> >> > > ___
>> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> >> > > >> 
>> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> >> > > >> 
>> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> > > >> 
>> >> > > >> > 
>> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
>> >> > > the same.  One is
>> >> > > Original,
>> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
>> >> > > >> > 
>> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> >> > > >> > 
>> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
>> >> > > >> > > 
>> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
>> >> > > People. 
>> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
>> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
>> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > > H
>> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > > |
>> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
>> >> > >      
>> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
>> >> > > >> > > >                                            
>> >> > >        
>> >> > > >> > > > / \
>> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
>> >> > >        L
>> >> > > >> > > >   L
>> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
>> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
>> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
>> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
>> >> > > your sig
>> >> > > >> > > > ++++
>> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
>> >> > > Earths, what
>> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
>> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
>> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
>> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
>> >> > > ___
>> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
>> >> > > Primaries!
>> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
>> >> > > religious
>> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > >     H
>> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > >     |
>> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
>> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > >    / \
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
>> >> > >         
>> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
>> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
>> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
>> >> > > Abu-Jamal
>> >> > > >> > > > ++++
>> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
>> >> > > to your
>> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
>> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
>> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
>> >> > > "supernatural". 
>> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
>> >> > > everyone's email
>> >> > > >> > > > with religious
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
>> >> > > interesting. 
>> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
>> >> > > Muslims (I
>> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
>> >> > > almost
>> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
>> >> > > have to ask
>> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
>> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
>> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
>> >> > > will. 
>> >> > === message truncated ===
>> >> > __________________________________________________
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>> >> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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In a message dated 2/9/00 11:15:10 PM Central Standard Time, 
carrienegative@angelfire.com writes:

<<  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not 
only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, 
subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country 
taken from them. >>
The same has happened to all kinds of people in the past. We always condemn 
Columbus and Cortes but what about Alexander the Great? Was he any different?

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 That's what I said! 
Ilove you Mark!!!!
OXOXOXOX
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:15:05    chopstiks wrote:
>i'm a 14 thousand pound man with an obviously low metabolism. i only have
>three eyes and six different types of genatalia. i have other appearances
>similar to people with bar body syndrome. my mother told me that i evolved
>from 6 different races by cold fusion rather than pregnancy. she figured
>having me the "normal" way would ruin her complexion so she became a
>serial killer for a while back in the 60's and  by the time the late 70's
>rolled around, my tiny mom was able to acquire all the parts needed to put
>me together. however i did not gain any element of consciousness until the
>mid 90's--later bloomer.oh well, all is what i have to say is that i'm the
>true derivative, baby:)
>
>i know this is a dying thread but. .
>
>but on a serious note, carrie has it there that anthropology is an
>evolving science in the sense that current theories of who we are are
>changing due to new evidence provided by artifacts found (obviously from
>then past). and as of this moment there is evidence that there are
>multiple nodes of "origin" of homo sapiens. people have pointed to
>australia, as well. i'm not an anthropologist by trade that, so don't take
>that as absolute fact.
>
>it is quite possible that the mean population of hominids could
>have been around the equatorial area (south america, africa, asia). i mean
>in general, quantity of live decreases as ambient tempurature decreases,
>well maybe. well lets just narrow that declaration to moderate-large
>terestiral mammals. 
>hominids may have radiated out to colder regions, possibly in search for
>food, better conditions, or maybe for religious purposes, i dunno. but as
>they were able to use tools in a systematic level, moving to really cold
>areas became, finally, a possibility. well i think i'm side tracking. 
>i guess what i'm trying to say is that ones color is simply a trait that
>is "governed" by natural selection. clothing yourself more and more
>prevents the sun from attacking your skin, making melanins and other skin
>pigments to be less and less useful. (at least for me in the winter my
>skin gets lighter and i'm from a dark skinned asian heritage mind you). 
>so ones skin complexion is governed by the environment or region one
>inhabits. as for this trait getting past through generation to generation.
>. i'd like to give an explanation but it would seem to Lamarkian so . i
>won't.
>
>
>
>i'll stop with this rambling. . . for now
>-choppie
>
>
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This letter shows how intelligent you are.  How about some substance to
your words?  "Eat shit"...what, are you in middle school, or just have the
intellect of a person in one?
Jerry

_______________________________________________________________________________
Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!

Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  ok-
> I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are assholes like you around.
>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country taken from them.
> Eat shit!
> 
> --
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> >Peace.
> >
> >
> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                    / \
> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >http://www.nge.org
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >
> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> >> --
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
> >> >Peace.
> >> >
> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >
> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> >> -choppie
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> >> > us today.
> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> >> > whole.
> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> >> > > made from the Original
> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> >> >> > > Peace.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> >> > > those might not be
> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > tad
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> >> > > difference between race and
> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> >> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> >> > > since we are all
> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> >> > > >> dope.
> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> >> > > Original,
> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> >> > > >> > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> >> > > People. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >> >> > >      
> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > >                                            
> >> >> > >        
> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >> >> > >        L
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> >> > > your sig
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> >> > > Earths, what
> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> >> > > Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> >> > > religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> >> > > to your
> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> >> > > "supernatural". 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> >> > > everyone's email
> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> >> > > interesting. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> >> > > almost
> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> >> > > have to ask
> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> >> > > will. 
> >> >> > === message truncated ===
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> > Do You Yahoo!?
> >> >> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> >> >> > http://im.yahoo.com
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Man, I just saw your "i hate plur" page. I just gotta say that I am totally 
for Peace Love Unity and Respect but I agree it's a dumb catch-phrase when 
over-used. I use it, but sparingly. And I wear the candy-necklaces so chicks 
suck on my neck. And I wear the bright-colored beads cuz I just think they 
look cool. As far as glitter and stuffed animals, eeew. That's just retarded. 
But the beads and glowsticks, hell yeah.

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 >i'd like to give an explanation but it would
 >seem to Lamarkian so . i won't.

A couple fun facts about Lamarckism:

(1) Charles Darwin was a Lamarckian.

(2) Lamarckian inheritance does in fact occur,
although it's not the primary mode of inheritance.


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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Tad wrote:

+At 06:00 PM 2/9/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
+>
+>My post was self explanatory, take it or leave it alone.  Peace.
+
+I'll take it that you dont really know what your talking about, if you are
+incapable of putting it into any other words.  Your are just repeating
+random drivel that obviously has no meaning to you.  Your post is rather
+engimatic and not self-explanatory in the least.  

actually, i thought quite the opposite... i felt the post was concise and
pretty accurate, and i think if what he said bothers you, before you
understood it, you have prejudice and race clouding your judgement.

perhaps when you stop playing this "you're not going to reply, so you must
know you're wrong!" game with him, he might like to satisfy your
curiousity.

i'll save the "quoting entire threads in your replys" lecture for the next
time it happens.

sorry i'm in such a "cut to the shit while using quotes" mood, but hey
"that's the way it is"

:)

peace,
chad


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that's got nothing on "rock n bowl"

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 06:05:01 2000
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wow, that event must be the biggest disproportion of budget to talent in 
history.  sasha and digweed are what, $15,000 apiece?  and RITM, another 
$10,000 at least i am sure.

see you at showdown 2, where DJ PHIL will be playing!  i heard a couple of 
big name house and d-n-b guys too, but more importantly DJ PHIL!!!

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>
>actually, i thought quite the opposite... i felt the post was concise and
>pretty accurate, and i think if what he said bothers you, before you
>understood it, you have prejudice and race clouding your judgement.

Really, please then you explain what it meant?  What does he mean by
original man and manifesting origina man??  I have prejudic and race
clouding my judgement? hm... why do you say that? I think your making some
assumptions here and being prejudiced yourself.  (What race am I? what is
my upbringing? I think its highly unlikely you know.. so dont assume or
pressume).

>
>perhaps when you stop playing this "you're not going to reply, so you must
>know you're wrong!" game with him, he might like to satisfy your
>curiousity.

I never once said he was wrong,  I asked a question, one I thought was
completely legitimate, he didnt reply, yet he chose to reply to the more
'inflamatory' posts.  That struck me as odd.
I ask a simple sincere question get no reply or a flippant 'non-anwer.'  

>i'll save the "quoting entire threads in your replys" lecture for the next
>time it happens.

I think its useful.  helps people know what the hell your respoding too...
especially for people who might be jumping in the middle of the thread....
just as long as you dont quote an entire message... and post yoru reply at
the very end.

>
>sorry i'm in such a "cut to the shit while using quotes" mood, but hey
>"that's the way it is"
>

whatever works for you... and whatever works for me.


PEACE,

tad


>:)
>
>peace,
>chad
>
>
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"Techno Heaven Len" <LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com> wrote:

>What city?

Sista' Jade is in Indianapolis.

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At 01:02 10-2-00 -0500, you wrote:

>Dutchmaster (Intrinsic Design)
>Amsterdam, Holland
>House, Techno, Trip Hop
>(star of new Heineken commercials)

He is from Goes in the Netherlands... Same city I live in. He even cuts his 
hair like I do, and I now host the radio show he used to host...

Mmmm... Herwin...

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Live
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If you have WinAmp...press (Ctrl+L) and enter 209.50.99.244:8000 to listen
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 oh, is that all you could find wrong with my post? If you're such an intellectual why not challenge my views of the plight of the native americans, or weather or not you feel my view of allah being a fascist is accurate. Oh wait, maybe the words "fascist" and "acurate" are too elaborate for you. It seems that all you are able to comprehend are the ones most commonly written on the public bathroom wall.
 Maybe I was wrong for using vocabulary that only a fifth grader can understand. Sorry. From now on I'll try to protect your virgin eyes. Maybe from now on you shouldn't pick a fight with such a bitch (oops! There I go again. I promise to wash my mouth out).

Love,
 your valentine  
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:43:01    Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>This letter shows how intelligent you are.  How about some substance to
>your words?  "Eat shit"...what, are you in middle school, or just have the
>intellect of a person in one?
>Jerry
>
>_______________________________________________________________________________
>Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>
>Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>
>On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
>
>>  ok-
>> I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are assholes like you around.
>>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country taken from them.
>> Eat shit!
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >
>> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
>> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
>> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
>> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
>> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
>> >Peace.
>> >
>> >
>> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
>> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
>> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
>> >                                                    / \
>> >5% Network                                         L   L
>> >http://www.nge.org
>> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >
>> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
>> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >
>> >
>> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
>> >
>> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
>> >> --
>> >> 
>> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
>> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
>> >> >Peace.
>> >> >
>> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
>> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
>> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
>> >> >                                                    / \
>> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
>> >> >http://www.nge.org
>> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >> >
>> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
>> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
>> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >> >
>> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
>> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
>> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
>> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
>> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
>> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
>> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
>> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
>> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
>> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
>> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
>> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
>> >> >> -choppie
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
>> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
>> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
>> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
>> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
>> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
>> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
>> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
>> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
>> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
>> >> >> > us today.
>> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
>> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
>> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
>> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
>> >> >> > whole.
>> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
>> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
>> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
>> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
>> >> >> > > made from the Original
>> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
>> >> >> > > Peace.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
>> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
>> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
>> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
>> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
>> >> >> > > of 'negative'
>> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
>> >> >> > > those might not be
>> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > tad
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
>> >> >> > > difference between race and
>> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
>> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
>> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
>> >> >> > > Why do you not just
>> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
>> >> >> > > since we are all
>> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
>> >> >> > > much about that culture,
>> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
>> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
>> >> >> > > >> dope.
>> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
>> >> >> > > >> Jerry
>> >> >> > > >> 
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
>> >> >> > > ___
>> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> >> >> > > >> 
>> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
>> >> >> > > >> 
>> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> 
>> >> >> > > >> > 
>> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
>> >> >> > > the same.  One is
>> >> >> > > Original,
>> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
>> >> >> > > >> > 
>> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
>> >> >> > > >> > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
>> >> >> > > People. 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
>> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
>> >> >> > > and
>> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > > H
>> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > > |
>> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
>> >> >> > >      
>> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
>> >> >> > > >> > > >                                            
>> >> >> > >        
>> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
>> >> >> > >        L
>> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
>> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
>> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
>> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
>> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
>> >> >> > > your sig
>> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
>> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
>> >> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
>> >> >> > > Earths, what
>> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
>> >> >> > > ___
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
>> >> >> > > Primaries!
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
>> >> >> > > religious
>> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
>> >> >> > >         
>> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
>> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
>> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
>> >> >> > > to your
>> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
>> >> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
>> >> >> > > "supernatural". 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
>> >> >> > > everyone's email
>> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
>> >> >> > > interesting. 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
>> >> >> > > Muslims (I
>> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
>> >> >> > > almost
>> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
>> >> >> > > have to ask
>> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
>> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
>> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
>> >> >> > > will. 
>> >> >> > === message truncated ===
>> >> >> > __________________________________________________
>> >> >> > Do You Yahoo!?
>> >> >> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
>> >> >> > http://im.yahoo.com
>> >> >> > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 06:46:12 2000
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May I suggest some of you listen to Blumchen. 

She's kinda like the Britney Spears/ Christina Agularia(sp) of Germany.  I 
have to say is that she's been around since 1996, she has 4 albums in German 
and 2 in English. She's waaaay better than Britney & Christina. She's kinda 
like the queen of happy hardcore..in German. Did I mention she's a cutie??

Boom boom!!


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not meant to dis the original poster at all.

i _love_ pop music.  it really is funny that we have such a double standard
here in the states...if we have friend who is successful, it's all good.  if
we don't know the person they are a sellout.  bah.  this is why i grew tired
of indie rock and ended up in the electronic areas o' music.  but with
'electronica' exploding, now the same shit enters this scene as well.  i'm
so sick of the term 'oldschool,' i could puke.  puke buckets.  buckets o'
puke.  i don't like the music industry any more than the rest of you but
really, how many units of decks efx and 909 do you think ritchie sold?  now
compare that to b. spears.  the ratio you get will probably blow your mind.
so what.  music for the masses is just that.  for the masses.  these artists
are people, just like you or i.  maybe they are more likely to be invited
into  fergus's bed than you or i, but that's just because they are more
well-known.  this doesn't automatically mean their music is shite.  alot of
you recently posted you don't feel your political vote matters because of
the electoral college, (sp?) but you will be upset when people choose to buy
records you personally don't like?  and these people go on to be successful?
yes.  because it was mandated for the people, by the people.  you may say
that a rich few decide what we will even see as comercially available music,
and that is true, but we do have the power to change that.  look at the
"total request live" joke requests that have resulted in videos airing on
mtv, that otherwise would not have aired.  looking to my indie rock past, i
am reminded of liz phair, who took the indie community by storm, giving the
girlysound tapes to friends who were so excited they dubbed them and passed
them on, even though several of the songs were derogatory to the very
community they were distributed in.  she was signed to matador....then to
capitol.  i don't think she has sold out at all.

sell out is an "old school" and thus a dumb school concept.

    -billb
    -treat it like window, not a door
    - wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com

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> we alway bitch that the radio sucks.
>
> And finaly when a cool song makes it on the radio and the abercrombie
crowd
> listens to it we declare that it is played out.
>
> In europe much of what in the states we call underground, is pop music.
>
> I love the underground, but I would rather live where cool music was
> considered cool and pop.
>
> You know when you drive cross country to that phat rave.  YOu are driving
> thru BFE and the only radio stations you can pick up is 4 kinds of country
> and some Jesus saves talk show.
>
> Id rather have bad ass music on the radio.  We as a scene should support
any
> trax that crosses over to pop.
>
> Blue is a cool trax.
>
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+Really, please then you explain what it meant?  What does he mean by
+original man and manifesting origina man??

i took it literally.

+I have prejudic and race
+clouding my judgement? hm... why do you say that? I think your making some
+assumptions here and being prejudiced yourself.  (What race am I? what is
+my upbringing? I think its highly unlikely you know.. so dont assume or
+pressume).

i'm not making any assumptions or presumptions...i'm observing and telling
you what i think based on those observations.

regardless, i think the last half of this paragraph proves my point.
i don't really care what race you are unless you have some particularly
interesting new information to tell me about it.

conversations about the color of one's skin or physical appearance in
general can be great, but when you attatch baggage to it, and think it
means more than was intended, that's when you know you've gone a little
off the deep end.

+I ask a simple sincere question get no reply or a flippant 'non-anwer.'  

i don't think it's polite to always expect a reply... much less to demand
one publicly.  although you did say please, it didn't sound very sincere.
but then, when's the last time anyone was polite on mw-raves?

and i'm being real picky, now, too.

+I think its useful.  helps people know what the hell your respoding too...
+especially for people who might be jumping in the middle of the thread....
+just as long as you dont quote an entire message... and post yoru reply at
+the very end.

i can understand that, but a good portion of mw-raves subscribers are on
the digest version... this means that they can't simply hit delete and get
rid of the message (that they could go back and read anyways) and have to
scroll past it each time...  threads can get quite long.  in fact, your
posts have taken up a greater portion of the last one.

this is not very efficient, imho... nor does it make the digest reader's
experience any more pleasant (if anyone's ever pleased by reading a
mw-raves digest)

i'd appreciate if everyone would take the time to visit the link that's
attached to the end of each and every single post.  it really does have
some helpful information.

if anyone's missed it, the link is 
http://www.mw-raves.org/what/mw-faq.html


+whatever works for you... and whatever works for me.

i don't think it worked...

peace,
chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 06:59:55 2000
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as much as this guy gets on my nerves (IN ADDITION TO NOT KNOWING HOW TO 
PROPERLY QUOTE... dumb cunts)..

>There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.

this line holds a lot more to it then any of you are reading.  them 
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Jon Dica, you hit it right on the head.  It was a great point that should
have gotten positive responses.  The only reason I did not was
because...I don't know how my quoting system works...if anyone knows how
to quote in Pine, please let me know.
Thanks,
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, jon dica! wrote:

> as much as this guy gets on my nerves (IN ADDITION TO NOT KNOWING HOW TO 
> PROPERLY QUOTE... dumb cunts)..
> 
> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> 
> this line holds a lot more to it then any of you are reading.  them 
> quotation marks are important.  especially around the word "races".
> 
> ...........................................................
> .......  jon/dica - massive honky - angel of death  .......
> ...........................................................
> "The suspect still had the weapon in his hand when police
> arrived. The weapon at that point was emptied," he added.
> ...........................................................
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You want me to respond on an intellectual level, therefore I will.  Let me
first qualify myself to speak about anthropology.  I attended this year's
American Anthropological Association convention, which was held in
Chicago.  I spoke with some of the foremost anthropologists from around
the world after their panels were over.  Now, I must disagree with your
former point that humans first appeared on the Earth in many places.  I
think you may have confused that with cultural hearths, of which there are
a few.  If following the theory of evolution (which anthropologists do),
it takes over 150,000 phenomena for just the human EYE to evolve into what
it has.  Imagine how many it would take for the whole body.  Are you
prepared to tell me that this occurrence happened in the same time period
in more than one place in the world?  I think not.  Getting to your point
about Native Americans, I agree that they have been wronged, but on EVERY
single wrongdoing you mentioned, Blacks have indeed been victims of as
well.  You know what.  That does not even matter.  It is irrelevant to
point out who should be "complaining more" in this discussion.  Jahzid is
not complaining.  He is stating what he believes to be the reality.
The ball's in your court, asshole
Jerry

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  oh, is that all you could find wrong with my post? If you're such an intellectual why not challenge my views of the plight of the native americans, or weather or not you feel my view of allah being a fascist is accurate. Oh wait, maybe the words "fascist" and "acurate" are too elaborate for you. It seems that all you are able to comprehend are the ones most commonly written on the public bathroom wall.
>  Maybe I was wrong for using vocabulary that only a fifth grader can understand. Sorry. From now on I'll try to protect your virgin eyes. Maybe from now on you shouldn't pick a fight with such a bitch (oops! There I go again. I promise to wash my mouth out).
> 
> Love,
>  your valentine  
> --
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:43:01    Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >This letter shows how intelligent you are.  How about some substance to
> >your words?  "Eat shit"...what, are you in middle school, or just have the
> >intellect of a person in one?
> >Jerry
> >
> >_______________________________________________________________________________
> >Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >
> >Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >
> >>  ok-
> >> I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are assholes like you around.
> >>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country taken from them.
> >> Eat shit!
> >> 
> >> --
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
> >> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
> >> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
> >> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
> >> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> >> >Peace.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >
> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> >> >> --
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
> >> >> >Peace.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
> >> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
> >> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
> >> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
> >> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
> >> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> >> >> -choppie
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> >> >> > us today.
> >> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> >> >> > whole.
> >> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> >> >> > > made from the Original
> >> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> >> >> >> > > Peace.
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> >> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> >> >> > > those might not be
> >> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > tad
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> >> >> > > difference between race and
> >> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> >> >> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> >> >> > > since we are all
> >> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> >> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> >> >> > > >> dope.
> >> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> >> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> >> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> >> >> > > Original,
> >> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> >> >> > > >> > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> >> >> > > People. 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> >> >> > > and
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >> >> >> > >      
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >                                            
> >> >> >> > >        
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >> >> >> > >        L
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> >> >> > > your sig
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> >> >> > > Earths, what
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> >> >> > > Primaries!
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> >> >> > > religious
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >> >> >> > >         
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> >> >> > > to your
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> >> >> > > "supernatural". 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> >> >> > > everyone's email
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> >> >> > > interesting. 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> >> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> >> >> > > almost
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> >> >> > > have to ask
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> >> >> > > the
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> >> >> > > will. 
> >> >> >> > === message truncated ===
> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> >> > Do You Yahoo!?
> >> >> >> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> >> >> >> > http://im.yahoo.com
> >> >> >> > 
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At 10:57 PM 2/9/00 -0800, the man who fears change wrote:
>+Really, please then you explain what it meant?  What does he mean by
>+original man and manifesting origina man??
>
>i took it literally.

Hm... I dont think he meant it quite that way... but I could be wrong.     

>
>i'm not making any assumptions or presumptions...i'm observing and telling
>you what i think based on those observations.
>
What is your observation that led you to believe I was being 'racist'??


>
>conversations about the color of one's skin or physical appearance in
>general can be great, but when you attatch baggage to it, and think it
>means more than was intended, that's when you know you've gone a little
>off the deep end.
>

I think I went out of my way to avoid doing that, I wanted an
explanation... b/c its obvious everyone else felt he was doing that.. some
how insinuating that white people were inferior.  I merely wanted to pin
him down and get a direct answer.  Is there anythign wrong with that? I
never once accused him of saying white people (or anyone was inferior).



>i don't think it's polite to always expect a reply... much less to demand

Well I think its odd,  That he says he's here to 'educate' but wont answer
my simple/honest/direct question but is willing to reply to flames.  And
worse yet I think its odd your getting nitt picky with my posts but you
dont comment on the "eat shit and die posts."

>one publicly.  although you did say please, it didn't sound very sincere.
>but then, when's the last time anyone was polite on mw-raves?
>

Well, it was sincere.  




>this is not very efficient, imho... nor does it make the digest reader's
>experience any more pleasant (if anyone's ever pleased by reading a
>mw-raves digest)

anyone who gets the diges has to know what they are getting into.
>

>i don't think it worked...

hmmm... it works just fine for me.  Maybe the problem lies elsewhere then??

Peace,
tad




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>We're taking off tomorrow night, staying
>over in Indiana, and getting there EARLY (for a change)
>on Saturday.  Which would be good, considering Glen
>is spinning before midnight.

not that good, since he's playing on FRIDAY NITE!!!


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On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
> "Monster Truck 2000:  The New Thrillennium"

Two questions:

1- Does this have anything to do with Will 2k: Willenium?

2- If I paid for the whole seat, would I only need the edge?

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At 06:00 PM 2/9/00 -0800, you wrote:
>i also need to get a hold of Troll...

squad513@aol.com ?



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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:
> that's got nothing on "rock n bowl"

Rock and Bowl for Your Soul was a series of rockabilly concerts at All
Star Bowl in Moorhead, MN, how's that for beautiful?

Now they're throwing "Technobowls" at the same venue!
(http://www.redriverrising.com)

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we should ask MC GQ for his input, man i've heard him call about 293874 
different jungle dj's the "original" !!

>>I am proud to be a descendant of the original man, Adam.
>
>I prefer to be known as "Original Jam Master Flex" but whatever works.


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>what about Alexander the Great?

yeah what about ALEXANDER THE GRAPE.  or are you just a LEMON HEAD?!?!?


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i met a girl in cleveland a few weeks ago that i talked to on the phone a 
few times the following week.  it was around MLK day and she said, in the 
course of conversation, one of the funniest things i've ever heard come out 
of a candy raver's mouth:

         "i'm all for peace, love, unity, and respect...but not for the 
niggers!"

At 12:41 AM 2/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Man, I just saw your "i hate plur" page. I just gotta say that I am totally
>for Peace Love Unity and Respect but I agree it's a dumb catch-phrase when
>over-used. I use it, but sparingly.


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>
>Bazooka  (Shockwave, Fukem)
>Germany
>Hardcore Techno

this guy's a  BADASS!!!

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BLUMCHEN is my GODESS.  unfortunately, it's hard to find merchandise, i.e. 
posters, shirts, stickers, watches etc for her.  christ, it's even a chore 
to mailorder her records off the net.

but i've watched her home video about 298734 times.  michael luvs blumchen 
4-ever.

At 01:45 AM 2/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>May I suggest some of you listen to Blumchen.
>
>She's kinda like the Britney Spears/ Christina Agularia(sp) of Germany.  I
>have to say is that she's been around since 1996, she has 4 albums in German
>and 2 in English. She's waaaay better than Britney & Christina. She's kinda
>like the queen of happy hardcore..in German. Did I mention she's a cutie??
>
>Boom boom!!
>
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In a message dated 2/10/00 12:22:34 AM, eye-d@gmx.net writes:

<<
>Dutchmaster (Intrinsic Design)
>Amsterdam, Holland
>House, Techno, Trip Hop
>(star of new Heineken commercials)

He is from Goes in the Netherlands... Same city I live in. He even cuts his 
hair like I do, and I now host the radio show he used to host...

Mmmm... Herwin...

Eye-D>>

OK, well, sorry all of our artists can't be more like you.  :)  I'm sure he 
keeps things lively for u all over there considering he is, like all great 
artists, completely mad.  

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In a message dated 2/10/2000 2:30:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< >i also need to get a hold of Troll...
 
 squad513@aol.com ?
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But make sure you attention it to Meaghan:Booking Info  cuz 3 people share 
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:47:07 EST, OLeSkL@aol.com wrote:


>michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
>
><< >i also need to get a hold of Troll...
> 
> squad513@aol.com ?
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>
>But make sure you attention it to Meaghan:Booking Info  cuz 3 people share 
>that account.


Try this too:

troll_dj@yahoo.com


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In a message dated 10/02/00 12:44:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
DJDolorem@aol.com writes:

<< Man, I just saw your "i hate plur" page >>


adam
you rock!
see ya in two days 
woOoOohOOoooOO
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have you heard the bad co remix of some apollo440
track that came out some time last month???  i bought
it just to see what it was like and it was like a $5
doublepack.  the track is basically oldskool hardcore.
it's got some similar production to their other stuff 
but it's slower, has totally different breaks...
AND IT'S FUCKIN HARDCORE.

ps... does anyone know which tracks are on the album 
sampler??  i think mine is coming in today.

chad

On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 04:13:51PM -0600, Brandon Ivers wrote:
> shit talk Bad Company all you want, but I finally gave a listen to the
> tracks on the forthcoming "Inside the Machine" LP, and all I can say
> is...DAMN! (www.neurofunk.com if you haven't listened yet).
> 
> tracks like Hunted, Forgotten, and all the others with that super trebled
> out hover... Fucking excellent!!! It's like hardcore rave all over again =D.
> 
> Brandon
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:02:16 GMT
From: Craig Spree <xotis@hotmail.com>
Subject: New Spree mix - New Spree Site!

Hi everyone!

I just completely overhauled the layout of my site:

http://www.kickinbeats.com/spree

In addition, I just uploaded an 90 MP3 of my set in Rapid City, SD on 
October 23rd, 1999. MC ADB is on the set as well. It was recorded live at 
Escape Velocity. So, go to my site, download it and listen!

Please forward this email on to anyone you think might be interested (lists, 
etc...) thanks!

-Craig/Spree
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(Sung to the tune of Beck's Loser)

Wowww.
Wow wow wow wow wow wow...I'm a raver baby....
...so why don't  you kill me....

I lurve that track!!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 15:52:34 2000
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Well I'm officially insane then, for I think it's crap.  Over produced
and extreme.  The tunes makes me yawn for the first 2minutes, then I
have do the 'running man' to amuse myself for the rest of the time.
Allow me to break it down...

----------------------------
"colonies" is crap...16 yawns, no running man.

"silicon" is crap...alot of prepackaged energy, just like the 1000 other
tunes that came out last month.

"brain scan" is allright...but I already own this tune, only mine's
called "turbulence".

"trick of the light" is allright...I'm sure it's a wonderfull
breakthrough tune if you like the taste of all this crap.

"forgotton" has sample appeal...ready to start dnb sets all over the
world.

"oxygen" is crap...more canned energy, only a couple of yawns and plenty
of running man.

"dead side" at least starts with some emotion, but then it drops and I'm
stick doing the 'running man' again, albeit a little more
enthusiastically...but it's a complete dupe off another song i can't
recall at the moment...it's a union jack song I think.

"sentient" robotic crap...bionic snorkels everywhere.

"nitrous" is a tune!  its bassline has much more depth than anything
I've heard for awhile, and the repititious amens put me into a
trance...what's this doing on the album?  Hey wait!  they use more than
one break too!  isn't that illegal or summin?  I'm going to have to get
ahold of this, sans the rest of the album of course.

"the flood" is a-okay...kinda smooth, yet loads of texture; I could dig
this thrown into a set for contrast.

"hunted"...ahhh crap, make it stop.

"outbreak" gives me headaches...way too much.
----------------------------

rooting for diversity...gregori


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Brandon Ivers wrote:

> shit talk Bad Company all you want, but I finally gave a listen to the
> tracks on the forthcoming "Inside the Machine" LP, and all I can say
> is...DAMN! (www.neurofunk.com if you haven't listened yet).
>
> tracks like Hunted, Forgotten, and all the others with that super trebled
> out hover... Fucking excellent!!! It's like hardcore rave all over again =D.

no no no, I can't even parallel them...one's a rushin vibe with all kinds of
diverstity, fun music for fun people...the other brings visions of drones and
hives; way too serious, like borg fight songs or sumthin.  sorry for the
disagree, but I'm just not havin it.

Just blink and it'll all be gone...gregori


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>From: "Carrie Lynn McDonough" <carrienegative@angelfire.com>
>Reply-To: "Carrie Lynn McDonough" <carrienegative@angelfire.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, "Jahzid Allah" <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
>Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
>Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:12:06 -0600
>
>  ok-
>I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not 
>black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to 
>any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are 
>assholes like you around.
>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not 
>only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, 
>subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire 
>country taken from them.
>Eat shit!
>

Since I may be the only one on the list that knows Jahzid as more than an 
email address let me say a few things.

Jahzid is not a facist nor is he a racist.  He may have opinions about the 
differences between races and how/when/where they evolved but this does not 
constitute racism in my book.  His ideas are at least some what based in 
fact and he has never used them to support some black power agenda in my 
experiences with him.

If he was a racist at heart, I doubt he would be able to tolerate being part 
of an orginization (PBS) that is 90% white and he probably wouldnt take the 
time to help with our events and dj for free (he is a talented jungle dj).  
However, he does all of these things and therefore does not meet my 
definition of a racist.  A racist is some one who "HATES" other races and 
wishes them nothing but harm.

Jahzid is "black" by physical appearance but may have some other heritage 
within him as I am sure many of us do.  I am "white" by physical appearance, 
and yet we still manage to get along well.  As pointed out by dica, you have 
completely misconstrued his "as long as there are races there will not be 
racial unity" statement to something that you WANT to read it as, so you can 
jump to the podium and quickly decry it as "racism."  I do not like that.  I 
do not like people that immediately and unthinkingly try to supress any 
discussion of race and potential differences (that may or may not be 
present), simply because "it must be racism."  If you will reread the posts 
of the thread carefully, I am sure you will find nothing blatantly racist 
that Jahzid has said beyond, "Blacks and Asians are original people and the 
caucasion genes and culture came from theirs."  If you disagree with this 
statement (as I do) please cite evidence or logic against it but dont shout 
"YOU RACIST PIG!"

thanks,
adam
>--
>
>On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> >Peace.
> >
> >
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> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >
> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a 
>proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> >> --
> >>
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both 
>caucasian.
> >> >Peace.
> >> >
> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >
> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that 
>both
> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had 
>curly
> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers 
>children
> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there 
>may be
> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing 
>through
> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> >> -choppie
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> >> > us today.
> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> >> > whole.
> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> >> > > made from the Original
> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization.
> >> >> > > Peace.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> >> > > those might not be
> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > tad
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> >> > > difference between race and
> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths?
> >> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> >> > > since we are all
> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> >> > > >> dope.
> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > 
>____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> >> > > Original,
> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> >> > > People.
> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network
> >> >> > >        L
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> >> > > your sig
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> >> > > Earths, what
> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > 
>____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> >> > > Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> >> > > religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> >> > > to your
> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> >> > > "supernatural".
> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> >> > > everyone's email
> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> >> > > interesting.
> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> >> > > almost
> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> >> > > have to ask
> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> >> > > will.
> >> >> > === message truncated ===
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--- Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com> wrote:
> definition of a racist.  A racist is some one who
> "HATES" other races and 
> wishes them nothing but harm.

Nope.  A racist is someone who makes generalizations
about another based on their skin color such as:
"Chang's Asian so he must be good at math" or
"Reggie's black so he must like Colt 45."

Most southern slave owners probably didn't hate their
slaves and wish them harm, but they were still racists
as they believed that dark skinned people were less
intelligent savages who could never be as civilized as
the white man.  Some people of the old world felt
sorry for them simply because they were black.  That's
also racism.

Basically, when you start to believe that one person
is, in any way, better than another simply because
they have different ethnicities, you're a racist.
 
> Jahzid is "black" by physical appearance but may
> have some other heritage 
> within him as I am sure many of us do.  I am "white"
> by physical appearance, 
> and yet we still manage to get along well.  As

I've met lots of <white> people who make racist
statements that usually end with, "don't get me wrong,
I'm not a racist. I have alot of friends who are
<insert race here>."

> pointed out by dica, you have 
> completely misconstrued his "as long as there are
> races there will not be 
> racial unity" statement to something that you WANT
> to read it as, so you can 
> jump to the podium and quickly decry it as "racism."
>  I do not like that.  I
> do not like people that immediately and unthinkingly
> try to supress any 
> discussion of race and potential differences (that
> may or may not be 
> present), simply because "it must be racism."  If

I agree, there's to many instances where the race card
is played without cause.

True, there are alot of statistical information that
one can use to back up feelings of racial
discrimination.  One of the more recent examples is
that of standardized testing.  Some called it racist
because whites were statistically more likely to score
better than minorities.  Does this mean that the tests
are racially discriminatory?  Does this mean that
whites are more intelligent than minorities (remember
The Bell Curve)?  Does this mean that, on average,
minorities aren't getting the same level of education
that is given to whites?  I think it's the latter, but
it's easier to simply call the tests racist and get
rid of them than to reform the education system so
that all children are equally educated.

> you will reread the posts 
> of the thread carefully, I am sure you will find
> nothing blatantly racist 
> that Jahzid has said beyond, "Blacks and Asians are
> original people and the 
> caucasion genes and culture came from theirs."  If
> you disagree with this 
> statement (as I do) please cite evidence or logic
> against it but dont shout 
> "YOU RACIST PIG!"

I agree, Adam, that alot of Allahs posts were too
vague to be racist and the others stated scientific
THEORY although I have a hard time believing that
these are serious posts.  They have the St*v*eT troll
feel to them.

Whatever.
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> thanks,
> adam

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Peace.  Two points.

1.  I am not a racist i.e. I do not use my genetic make-up to oppress and
terrorize caucasians.
2.  "Equal Rights" is not really a reality world wide, as can be shown in
many instances in the so called first, second and third world territories.
Rich Slave Makers of the poor make sure of that, also cause the people to
fight and kill one another, based on ethnolinguistic differences, so they
can make themselves rich from their labor, misery, and war.

Peace.


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allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
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++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++


On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:

> Okay, I don't even remember where this letter originally started or what the 
> point is but what I've drawn from it are these key factors...
> 
> There's some dude who claims not to be religious but still claims to be the 
> supreme being "Allah" who is showing some very racist ideas that I'm sure not 
> many of us are happy about.
> 
> I've lost what the main point of the whole debate was, so I have this to 
> say...
> I am proud of the strength of my ancestors, and what they went through to 
> stay true to their beliefs. I believe that will always be a part of me and 
> was planned out since the beginning and will always be a part of everyone in 
> my bloodline as long as our heritage is taught to the younger generations.
> I am proud of being a son of civilization. I am glad to live in a world where 
> we are commonly in the mental state of equal rights for all and have a sense 
> of common morality and correctness.
> I am proud to be a son of the earth. This is a wonderful place, bad things 
> happen, good things happen, it's motion. We keep on going.
> I am proud to be a descendant of the original man, Adam. The human race is a 
> fascinating race.
> I am proud of being a son of my God. I love him, trust him, and believe him 
> to be all-knowing. He cares for me and guides me in the right direction. When 
> I follow him I am going the right way for good things to happen to me.
> I am proud of being open-minded. I am glad I can easily-debate the 
> differences in peoples and still come out with a general idea that the human 
> race is still going more better than worse.
> I am proud.
> Thank you for reading.
> ~Chris Menning
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"Native Americans" are Original (Black People) too.  Peace.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  ok-
> I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are assholes like you around.
>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country taken from them.
> Eat shit!
> 
> --
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> >Peace.
> >
> >
> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                    / \
> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >http://www.nge.org
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >
> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> >> --
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
> >> >Peace.
> >> >
> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >
> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> >> -choppie
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> >> > us today.
> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> >> > whole.
> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> >> > > made from the Original
> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> >> >> > > Peace.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> >> > > those might not be
> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > tad
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> >> > > difference between race and
> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> >> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> >> > > since we are all
> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> >> > > >> dope.
> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> >> > > Original,
> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> >> > > >> > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> >> > > People. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >> >> > >      
> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > >                                            
> >> >> > >        
> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >> >> > >        L
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> >> > > your sig
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> >> > > Earths, what
> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> >> > > Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> >> > > religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> >> > > to your
> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> >> > > "supernatural". 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> >> > > everyone's email
> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> >> > > interesting. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> >> > > almost
> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> >> > > have to ask
> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> >> > > will. 
> >> >> > === message truncated ===
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
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Hey people....being completely ignorant in the area of
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I really hate to post (flame) about stuff like this, but I
just need to get this out of my system:

As Tad once asked,

So what?

What are you trying to prove?

What's the agenda?

What's the point?

Why are these opinions filling up my mailbox for a rave list?

Let's assume for a minute your analysis is correct about
Caucasians being "derived" (or something) and just about
everyone else (Africans, Asians, American Indians) being
"original."

Where does that leave us?

What's your point?

Are you trying to make some kind of moral claim here,
or a scientific one, or just a "fun facts about the origin
of humanity" type thing, or what?  I wouldn't normally
care, but a lot of people are struggling to figure out what
you're saying because your hitting on some touchy issues.

So what's the agenda?

Do you have advice for us?

Are you complaining about something?

Or are you just trying to be poetic and enigmatic?

If you're trying to incite a reaction, you're succeeding.

If you're trying to confuse everyone, good job.

Who the fuck cares about skin color and why do you
keep bringing it up?

Okay.  I'm finished now.  Sorry about that everyone.


At 01:39 PM 2/10/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:

>"Native Americans" are Original (Black People) too.  Peace.


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Peace.  The "race" and "ethnic" discussion started when I asked Kid
Entropy if the guy that challenged him to a lyrical duel was caucasian.
The reason I asked is because it is RARE to see caucasians battling each
other lyrically (RARE, not non-existent), because overall, within the
Wilderness of North America, there is not a DEMAND for this type of
"therapy" amongst caucasians, as compared to other people, especially
so-called "minorities", who, as a whole, have identity problems with
respect to the other human families of the planet earth (perming,
consumption of meat, make-up, blond wigs, extensions, name-brand apparel,
automobiles, jewelry, etc.)  This is where people started to see
"caucasian" and become upset, interested, you name
it.  Since hip-hop CULTURALLY speaking (not industry speaking) is
dominated by black people, I had to wonder what were the dynamics that
caused this caucasian to want to battle, at, of all places, a "rave"?
Kid Entropy pointed out that people who tried to be "down" but are not as
skilled, will try to pick so-called "easy targets".
Peace.


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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:

> I really hate to post (flame) about stuff like this, but I
> just need to get this out of my system:
> 
> As Tad once asked,
> 
> So what?
> 
> What are you trying to prove?
> 
> What's the agenda?
> 
> What's the point?
> 
> Why are these opinions filling up my mailbox for a rave list?
> 
> Let's assume for a minute your analysis is correct about
> Caucasians being "derived" (or something) and just about
> everyone else (Africans, Asians, American Indians) being
> "original."
> 
> Where does that leave us?
> 
> What's your point?
> 
> Are you trying to make some kind of moral claim here,
> or a scientific one, or just a "fun facts about the origin
> of humanity" type thing, or what?  I wouldn't normally
> care, but a lot of people are struggling to figure out what
> you're saying because your hitting on some touchy issues.
> 
> So what's the agenda?
> 
> Do you have advice for us?
> 
> Are you complaining about something?
> 
> Or are you just trying to be poetic and enigmatic?
> 
> If you're trying to incite a reaction, you're succeeding.
> 
> If you're trying to confuse everyone, good job.
> 
> Who the fuck cares about skin color and why do you
> keep bringing it up?
> 
> Okay.  I'm finished now.  Sorry about that everyone.
> 
> 
> At 01:39 PM 2/10/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> 
> >"Native Americans" are Original (Black People) too.  Peace.
> 
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:39:53 -0500 (EST)
From: Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps

"Native Americans" are Original (Black People) too.  Peace.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  ok-
> I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not 
black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any 
race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are 
assholes like you around.
>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not 
only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, 
subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country 
taken from them.
> Eat shit!
> 
> --
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> >Peace.
> >
> >
> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                    / \
> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >http://www.nge.org
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >
> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a 
proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> >> --
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
> >> >Peace.
> >> >
> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >
> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that 
both
> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had 
curly
> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers 
children
> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may 
be
> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing 
through
> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> >> -choppie
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> >> > us today.
> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> >> > whole.
> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> >> > > made from the Original
> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> >> >> > > Peace.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> >> > > those might not be
> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > tad
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> >> > > difference between race and
> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> >> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> >> > > since we are all
> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> >> > > >> dope.
> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > 
____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> >> > > Original,
> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> >> > > >> > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> >> > > People. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >> >> > >      
> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > >                                            
> >> >> > >        
> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >> >> > >        L
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> >> > > your sig
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> >> > > Earths, what
> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > 
____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> >> > > Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> >> > > religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> >> > > to your
> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> >> > > "supernatural". 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> >> > > everyone's email
> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> >> > > interesting. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> >> > > almost
> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> >> > > have to ask
> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> >> > > will. 
> >> >> > === message truncated ===
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
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Is anybody in the Minneapolis area going to check out Affect tonight at
Liquid?  It's supposed to be a new IDM/experimental/whatever weekly event
they're having.  The line-up for tonight is Brad Kraft, Moss, Mr.
Projectile and Cisko, as far as I know.  

Just thought I'd let people know, since I think an experimental night is
definitely a good thing to support, especially in a city so flooded with
bad dance music.  :)

Oh, and Liquid's address is 417 1st Ave.

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From: "mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net>
To: "S. Freshnock. mr offtrack" <sfreshnock@yahoo.com>,
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Subject: [mw] Re: [kc] Re: sat 12
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:09:07 -0600
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i dont think so

-gruve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: S. Freshnock. mr offtrack <sfreshnock@yahoo.com>

> 
> Have we met? We think alot alike. B E E R.
> 
> peace,
> Offtrack
> 
> --- "mike @ full spectrum" <djgruve@home.net> wrote:
> > 
> > and BEER
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: S. Freshnock. mr offtrack
> > <sfreshnock@yahoo.com>
> > 
> > > I think alot of people will be attending No Mercy.
> > Can
> > > you blame them? Its a fantastic night of music.
> > > 
> > > peace,
> > > Offtrack
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- gabriel peper <biggubby@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is anyone hitting mercy
> > > > 
> > > > >From: Rachel Martz <rachelm@swbell.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: rachelm@swbell.net
> > > > >To: kc-raves@egroups.com,
> > mw-raves@hyperreal.org,
> > > > stl-raves@egroups.com
> > > > >Subject: [kc] KC EVENT SAT FEB 12
> > > > >Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 18:41:35 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >NO MERCY
> > > > >Valentine's Day Weekend
> > > > >Saturday February 12, 2000
> > > > >Kansas City Area
> > > > >9:30pm - 7am
> > > > >
> > > > >We're setting up the sound in the afternoon, so
> > > > everything WILL BE ready
> > > > >to go at 9:30pm.  If we have a line like we did
> > at
> > > > Natural Disaster, we
> > > > >will open the doors early (with a dj on-hand,
> > and
> > > > ready to
> > > > >play).
> > > > >
> > > > >COST:
> > > > >
> > > > >$16.00  (Yes, this includes professional
> > lighting)
> > > > >PLEASE BRING EXACT CHANGE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >LINE-UP
> > > > >
> > > > >Carlos [San Francisco] (S.F. House Collective)
> > > > >DDR [U.K. Live acid-techno PA] (Smitten,
> > Stay-Up
> > > > Forever)
> > > > >Roman [Seattle] (Funky Techno Tribe,
> > > > NativeVision.com)
> > > > >Ryan Tinsley [Chicago} (tech-house)
> > > > >My Friend Mike/Nico [Kansas City] (ambient dnb)
> > > > >Offtrack [Kansas]
> > > > >DJ Gruve [Chicago]
> > > > >
> > > > >INFOLINES:
> > > > >
> > > > >816.292.2881
> > > > >816.871.5151
> > > > >816.920.3578 (messages only)
> > > > >
> > > > >SAME PLACE AS NATURAL DISASTER - GUARANTEED NOT
> > TO
> > > > GET SHUT-DOWN
> > > > >
> > > > >DIRECTIONS (A LITTLE MORE COMPLETE THAN IN THE
> > > > PAST):
> > > > >
> > > > >[] indicates road/street name
> > > > >
> > > > > >From east (downtown KC):
> > > > >
> > > > >I-70W
> > > > >To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
> > > > >Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7
> > > > (Northbound).
> > > > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > > > [Parallel Parkway].
> > > > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > > > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > > > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > > > >
> > > > > >From west:
> > > > >
> > > > >TOLL
> > > > >I-70E
> > > > >To Bonner Springs Exit
> > > > >Through tollgate, turn left onto Highway 7
> > > > (Northbound).
> > > > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > > > [Parallel Parkway].
> > > > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > > > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > > > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > > > >
> > > > >TOLLFREE
> > > > >K-10 E (LEAVING LAWRENCE)
> > > > >TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
> > > > >Follow north (eventually you'll see the
> > tollbooths
> > > > that are off I70)
> > > > >just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
> > > > >To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
> > > > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > > > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > > > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > > > >
> > > > > >From north:
> > > > >I-35S
> > > > >To I-70W
> > > > >To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
> > > > >Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7
> > > > (Northbound).
> > > > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > > > [Parallel Parkway].
> > > > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > > > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > > > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From south:
> > > > >
> > > > >TOLL
> > > > >I-35N
> > > > >To I-70W
> > > > >To Bonner Springs Exit (#224).
> > > > >Through tollgate, turn right onto Highway 7
> > > > (Northbound).
> > > > >Follow (about 5 minutes) to 4-way stoplight
> > > > [Parallel Parkway].
> > > > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > > > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > > > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > > > >
> > > > >TOLLFREE
> > > > >I-435W
> > > > >K-10 (WEST)
> > > > >TO HIGHWAY 7 NORTH
> > > > >Follow north (eventually you'll see the
> > tollbooths
> > > > that are off I70)
> > > > >just continue forward (north) on 7 highway.
> > > > >To 4-way stoplight [Parallel Parkway].
> > > > >Go through and follow to next 4-way stoplight.
> > > > >After stop, take second left (not very far from
> > > > light) onto [Mitchel].
> > > > >
> > > > >Venue is named:  Racer's 2  [Big lit sign in
> > the
> > > > sky]
> > > > >
> > > > >*Please note:
> > > > >
> > > > >Highway 7 is a divided highway with a posted
> > speed
> > > > limit of 65 mph.  Get
> > > > >in the left lane as you approach the second
> > 4-way
> > > > stoplight.  You will
> > > > >have to turn left abruptly from the fast lane
> > of
> > > > the highway.  I suggest
> > > > >not picking up too much speed once you leave
> > the
> > > > light because its a
> > > > >sharp left turn without a turn lane and poorly
> > lit.
> > > >  It's REALLY easy to
> > > > >miss.
> > > > >
> > > > >www.syquil.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >Valentine's Day Shopping Made Simple.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://click.egroups.com/1/1158/3/_/4270/_/949972946/
> > > > >
> > > > >-- Talk to your group with your own voice!
> > > > >--
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.egroups.com/VoiceChatPage?listName=kc-raves&m=1
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ______________________________________________________
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Valentine's Day Shopping Made Simple.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://click.egroups.com/1/1158/3/_/4270/_/950126952/
> > > > 
> > > > -- Talk to your group with your own voice!
> > > > --
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.egroups.com/VoiceChatPage?listName=kc-raves&m=1
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > =====
> > > Offtracks Top 5 Techno Jamz. 
> > > 1. Bryan Zentz "Kingdom of the Selfish" [PRIMATE]
> > > 2. Chris McCormick "Undercover Darkness" *Space Dj
> > rmxs
> > > 3. Fenton & Thomas "Audio 23" [Audio] 
> > > 4. Angel Allanis "The Darkness" [Turtle Traxx]
> > > 5. Gaetek "Art 5" [ART] <-- Total Techno Disorder
> > > ** Techno.Justice.League /*\ Allergic Entertaiment
> > **
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > > http://im.yahoo.com
> > > 
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > eLerts!
> > > It's easy. It's fun. Best of all, it's free.
> > >
> >
> http://click.egroups.com/1/1234/3/_/4270/_/950144478/
> > > 
> > > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document
> > Vault
> > > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/kc-raves/?m=1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Join eLerts to Save!
> > Sign up for one or two today!
> >
> http://click.egroups.com/1/1238/3/_/4270/_/950150517/
> > 
> > eGroups.com Home:
> > http://www.egroups.com/group/kc-raves/
> > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group
> > communications
> > 
> > 
> 
> =====
> Offtracks Top 5 Techno Jamz. 
> 1. Bryan Zentz "Kingdom of the Selfish" [PRIMATE]
> 2. Chris McCormick "Undercover Darkness" *Space Dj rmxs
> 3. Fenton & Thomas "Audio 23" [Audio] 
> 4. Angel Allanis "The Darkness" [Turtle Traxx]
> 5. Gaetek "Art 5" [ART] <-- Total Techno Disorder
> ** Techno.Justice.League /*\ Allergic Entertaiment **
> __________________________________________________
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got this message, i don't do drugs so i don't know if its true or not, better 
safe than sorry though

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:09:39 EST
Subject: Fwd: pLeasE rEad & B carEfuL :)~!~
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From: BRiTE312@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:13:26 EST
Subject: pLeasE rEad & B carEfuL :)~!~
To: SLaMMinKanDyGirL@aol.com, Slick18cam@aol.com, Spookydead@aol.com,
	StarrieWishez@aol.com, Toadstooln@aol.com, TRANCEtrippin420@aol.com,
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Return-path: IIIADIDASGIRLIII@aol.com
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Full-name: IIIADIDASGIRLIII
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 16:51:04 EST
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WARNING! 
[Unable to display image]

White clovers contain DXM ! ( <A HREF="http://www.dancesafe.org/dxm.html">DXM<
/A> )<----- more info click link
((SERIOUSLY DEADLY WHEN COMBINED WITH MDMA))

PLEASE HELP US ERADICATE THESE PILLS! Our laboratory has identified the 
above-pictured "shamrock" or "white clover" as a high-dose DXM pill. These 
pills do NOT contain ecstasy     (<A 
HREF="http://www.dancesafe.org/ehealth.html">Ecstasy Health and Safety</A>). 
Like the "green triangles" last summer, we are receiving emails from users 
across the entire country reporting adverse reactions relating to these pills.
These reactions have included seizure, serotonin syndrome, and a number of 
hospitalizations. For some, illness and disorientation has lasted many days.

Due to their wide prevelance, we are launching a nation-wide early warning 
campaign against these pills, and we are requesting your help.

What can you do?

Tell everyone you know who uses ecstasy about these pills. 
Post warnings on your local rave email list. 
Distribute warning flyers at your local events. 
Announce it over the sound system (especially DJs). 
Tell anyone selling them to stop, and to demand their money back from their 
supplier. 
Last summer we succeeded in eradicating the green triangles. We can do it 
again with these clovers if everybody works together. Whether or not you, 
yourself, use ecstasy, remember that this is our community and we need to 
take care of each other. Thanks!


   

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 22:31:08 2000
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Subject: [mw] NRR:  FS/FT Yamaha QY700
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I bought this less than a year ago and it's just not
for me. It's the big brother to both the QY70 and the
RM1X. Every mag review I've read on this thing says
it's the best hardware sequencer ever made!

Here's a list of features:

sequencer:
*110,000 note capacity
*20 songs
*480ppq resolution
*tempo 25-300, resolution 0.1
*32-track sequencer (plus 16 pattern tracks)
*320 x 240 dot graphic LCD (CFL backlight)!!!
*2 midi ins / 2 midi outs
*floppy drive for sequence backup

onboard AWM2 synth:
*32 polyphoy / 32 multitimbral
*480 voices / 11 drum kits
*a whole crapload of onboard effects (reverb, chorus,
delay, flanger, phaser, auto-pan, auto-wah, EQ, etc.)

This piece of gear still retails at around $1200 new.
I'm selling mine for $900 w/ power supply, manual, and
factory disk. It is imacculate. Looks like it just
came out of the box.

For an image, look at
http://www.yamaha.com/images/qy700.gif

You don't usually see these for sale used, so cease
the opportunity to own one for $300 less than you'd
pay at a store (online or otherwise). Trust me, you
wont regret it.

I'm also open to interesting trades. Make me an offer.

--Will


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 22:49:44 2000
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yes yes yes my friends... dxm is the greatest drug ever created. You can trip 
very well off of this. It is a lot like special k in a way. The best way to 
get dxm is through robotussin. Drink a bottle or two of robotussin max 
strength cough (anything else will make you sick) and you will be trippin 
balls for the next few hours. good tripping and i will see you on the other 
side of the matrix!

~ANTISTAR

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 23:06:00 2000
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That hardcore track rocks ass!!!!!!!!!!!!1
herd it first on a Nicky Fingers tape (RIP) along with
that core track thats got the guitar riff from
Metalicas One.
RAWK!!!!!!!!!!

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> 
> Wowww.
> Wow wow wow wow wow wow...I'm a raver baby....
> ...so why don't  you kill me....
> 
> I lurve that track!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 10 23:10:23 2000
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> Well I'm officially insane then, for I think it's crap.  Over produced
> and extreme.

I understand where your coming from. I go through periods all the time where
I absolutely hate everything coming out. It just so happens that the BC
album sounds a bit better than what I was expecting. Don't get me wrong
either, it is NOTHING like hardcore rave in it's vibe... just the samples
that it uses (ie the hovers and stabs). Either way, the obvious concensus is
that the sound is stale, so im sure we'll be hearing more Mr Finger's
ripoffs in the future if thats where the sound is moving (ugh)

All I want is a return to mash up breaks anyway

Brandon


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before you try that, 
read up, buttercup.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/dxm.shtml

peace,
chad

On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 ZombieRacr@aol.com wrote:

+yes yes yes my friends... dxm is the greatest drug ever created. You can trip 
+very well off of this. It is a lot like special k in a way. The best way to 
+get dxm is through robotussin. Drink a bottle or two of robotussin max 
+strength cough (anything else will make you sick) and you will be trippin 
+balls for the next few hours. good tripping and i will see you on the other 
+side of the matrix!
+
+~ANTISTAR
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ccchiiilll!

there is no need to use your shot gun. civilians my get gangreen!
drink some tea
-choppie

On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:

>  ok-
> I think I've had quite enough of your racist babbel. Fuck you. You're not black, white, etc.. You're just some retarded fascist, and a disgrace to any race. Of corse there will never be racial unity, as long as there are assholes like you around.
>  If anyone has any cause to gripe, it should be the Native Americans. Not only were they enslaveed, killed off, poisened by disese and pollution, subjects of experimental testing, but they also have had their entire country taken from them.
> Eat shit!
> 
> --
> 
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:40:33    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >
> >The sentence was grammatically correct.  If you didn't understand, I was
> >saying that there is no such thing as an illegitimate child.  The only
> >people that can be called illegitimate are the physical or otherwise
> >parents who did not take on their responsibility.
> >There can be no such thing as "racial unity" as long a "races" exist.
> >Peace.
> >
> >
> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >                                                    / \
> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >http://www.nge.org
> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >
> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Carrie Lynn McDonough wrote:
> >
> >>  maybe you should go back to first grade and learn how to construct a proper scentence. Then go back to pre-school and learn about racial unity.
> >> --
> >> 
> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:31:13    Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >
> >> >No children are illegitamate, only the parents that don't take care of
> >> >him.  If he was a black man, his PHYSICAL parents aren't both caucasian.
> >> >Peace.
> >> >
> >> >Divine Ruler Equality Allah                          H
> >> >allah@metalab.unc.edu                                |
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html              A--.--A
> >> >                                                    / \
> >> >5% Network                                         L   L
> >> >http://www.nge.org
> >> >http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >
> >> >    ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >    ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
> >> >++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >
> >> >On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, chopstiks wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> i had a friend who appeared to be of african nature but he says that both
> >> >> his parents were caucasian (at least one of them was irish). he had curly
> >> >> hair almost like an afro. either he is telling the truth or he is an
> >> >> illegitamate child. but assuming truth, could that mean that, to an
> >> >> extant, complexion determination is a mutually exclusive trait to a
> >> >> certain? (somewhat sidenote. if you change the ambient tempurature
> >> >> of, i'd like to say, cat (carrie help me out here) the mothers children
> >> >> will either be black dominant or white dominant--could that be the
> >> >> darwinistic answer?). i think though that skin complexion has many
> >> >> factors. although it appears as a single trait, genetically there may be
> >> >> many genes involved. gawd all this biological information rushing through
> >> >> my fingers is evil:)
> >> >> -choppie
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > I think what he's saying, in a round about way, is
> >> >> > that white people cant have black children.
> >> >> > We'll my answer is, SO WHAT!
> >> >> > White people cant have Asian babies, or Hispanic
> >> >> > children, or Native American children, or whatever.
> >> >> > And when a black person has a child that has a skin
> >> >> > problem (ie something wrong with their melanin) that
> >> >> > child is not caucasian.
> >> >> > Now caucasian might have come from such things as
> >> >> > genetic defects, but that really has no relevance to
> >> >> > us today.
> >> >> > Bottom line, people are people (so why should it be,
> >> >> > sorry had to do it) and the more that individuals
> >> >> > point out racial diferences, the more they are going
> >> >> > to let that hinder themselves and the world as a
> >> >> > whole.
> >> >> > If we all want equality, then we better damn well
> >> >> > respect the fact that we are all racially equal first!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >> >> > > At 09:42 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >Peace.  Because caucasians can not manifest
> >> >> > > Original People, nor are they
> >> >> > > >the Fathers and Mothers of Civilization.  They are
> >> >> > > made from the Original
> >> >> > > >Man, and so is the root of their civilization. 
> >> >> > > Peace.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > So what exactly does that mean?   'can not manifest
> >> >> > > Orignal People'  & "not
> >> >> > > Fathers and Mothers of civilization"  what does that
> >> >> > > mean? were not allowed
> >> >> > > into disney world or? b/c I'm just getting some sort
> >> >> > > of 'negative'
> >> >> > > connotations here... although I'm willing to admit
> >> >> > > those might not be
> >> >> > > justified.  So please explain yourself.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > tad
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > >On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> First off, I most definitely understand the
> >> >> > > difference between race and
> >> >> > > >> ethnicity.  That aside, this goes out to the
> >> >> > > 5%er...why then do you refer
> >> >> > > >> to Black men and women as being Gods and Earths? 
> >> >> > > Why do you not just
> >> >> > > >> refer to all men as Gods and all women as Earths
> >> >> > > since we are all
> >> >> > > >> related?  BTW...speaking of 5%er's, don't know
> >> >> > > much about that culture,
> >> >> > > >> but I do know that the Poor Righteous Teachers
> >> >> > > and Micranots are pretty
> >> >> > > >> dope.
> >> >> > > >> Word is Life (I'm assuming?)
> >> >> > > >> Jerry
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> 
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > We think so we are related, but we are not all
> >> >> > > the same.  One is
> >> >> > > Original,
> >> >> > > >> > the other is made from the Original.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > 
> >> >> > > >> > > So were all related right?
> >> >> > > >> > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > --- Jahzid Allah <allah@metalab.unc.edu>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Asian men and women are Original(Black)
> >> >> > > People. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > White people are made
> >> >> > > >> > > > from Original People.  Check Anthropology
> >> >> > > and
> >> >> > > >> > > > Genetics.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah                
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > H
> >> >> > > >> > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                      
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > > |
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html       
> >> >> > >      
> >> >> > > >> > > > A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > >                                            
> >> >> > >        
> >> >> > > >> > > > / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > 5% Network                                 
> >> >> > >        L
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines to
> >> >> > > your sig
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jerome C. Austriaco II
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > If Black men and women are Gods and
> >> >> > > Earths, what
> >> >> > > >> > > > does that make white men
> >> >> > > >> > > > > and women, or Asian men and women?  
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Jerry
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> > > ___
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Free Mumia Abu-Jamal and Wen Ho Lee Now!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > Vote for Alan Keyes in the Republican
> >> >> > > Primaries!
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Peace.  I am not a muslim, nor a
> >> >> > > religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > person.  I am Allah.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > Divine Ruler Equality Allah            
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     H
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > allah@metalab.unc.edu                  
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >     |
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/jahz.html   
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >  A--.--A
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >                                        
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >    / \
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 5% Network                             
> >> >> > >         
> >> >> > > >> > > >   L   L
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.nge.org
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://metalab.unc.edu/nge
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > http://www.7cipher.com/~NGE/ (mirror)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ stop the execution of Mumia
> >> >> > > Abu-Jamal
> >> >> > > >> > > > ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > >     ++++ if you agree copy these lines
> >> >> > > to your
> >> >> > > >> > > > sig ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > ++++ see
> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/mumia002.htm ++++
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Adam Ierymenko
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Jahzid Allah wrote:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > There is no such thing as
> >> >> > > "supernatural". 
> >> >> > > >> > > > Everything real is
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > > REAL.  Peace.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Hmm.. I don't want to flood
> >> >> > > everyone's email
> >> >> > > >> > > > with religious
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > discussions, but I do find this
> >> >> > > interesting. 
> >> >> > > >> > > > I have heard something
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > similar to this espoused by other
> >> >> > > Muslims (I
> >> >> > > >> > > > assume you're a
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Muslim of some sort) in the past.
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Given that I know quite a bit about
> >> >> > > almost
> >> >> > > >> > > > every religious current
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > in the world today except Islam, I
> >> >> > > have to ask
> >> >> > > >> > > > exactly what this
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > means...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > Does this mean:
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > a) That God is an active principle of
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe as opposed to
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > an 'old man in the sky' apart from
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > >> > > > universe (the way many
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > other religions personify him/her/it)
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > or
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > 
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > b) That Gods, devils, etc. are simply
> >> >> > > >> > > > 'patterns' in the world...
> >> >> > > >> > > > > > > synchronicities or archetypes if you
> >> >> > > will. 
> >> >> > === message truncated ===
> >> >> > __________________________________________________
> >> >> > Do You Yahoo!?
> >> >> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> >> >> > http://im.yahoo.com
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Where I live I realize that not everyone is treated fairly in the world. What 
I meant to say was that where I live right now, I'm glad to see that the 
majority of people are entitled to equal rights. Believe me, I'm aware of the 
problems going on in many countries right now and I usually try to do what I 
can to make things better where possible. But I just think that calling 
people of different ethnic backrounds "Original" and some not original and 
acting like it's a big deal sounds really snobby. It's like you're saying 
that you're better than me because your skin is darker than mine. That is a 
racist idea, plain and simple. My complexion is a pasty white, but I have 
blood from many different races in me, and to try to be "Original" to me 
seems like you have something against white people. Tell me, why exactly are 
people with darker skin better? What's so great about being "Original"?

<< 1.  I am not a racist i.e. I do not use my genetic make-up to oppress and
 terrorize caucasians.
 2.  "Equal Rights" is not really a reality world wide, as can be shown in
 many instances in the so called first, second and third world territories.
 Rich Slave Makers of the poor make sure of that, also cause the people to
 fight and kill one another, based on ethnolinguistic differences, so they
 can make themselves rich from their labor, misery, and war.
 
 Peace. >>

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Peace.  Lets talk about where you live, such as people uniformally or
unilaterally have the "rights" you speak of.  What city or community is
this?  Peace.


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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000 DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:

> Where I live I realize that not everyone is treated fairly in the world. What 
> I meant to say was that where I live right now, I'm glad to see that the 
> majority of people are entitled to equal rights. Believe me, I'm aware of the 
> problems going on in many countries right now and I usually try to do what I 
> can to make things better where possible. But I just think that calling 
> people of different ethnic backrounds "Original" and some not original and 
> acting like it's a big deal sounds really snobby. It's like you're saying 
> that you're better than me because your skin is darker than mine. That is a 
> racist idea, plain and simple. My complexion is a pasty white, but I have 
> blood from many different races in me, and to try to be "Original" to me 
> seems like you have something against white people. Tell me, why exactly are 
> people with darker skin better? What's so great about being "Original"?
> 
> << 1.  I am not a racist i.e. I do not use my genetic make-up to oppress and
>  terrorize caucasians.
>  2.  "Equal Rights" is not really a reality world wide, as can be shown in
>  many instances in the so called first, second and third world territories.
>  Rich Slave Makers of the poor make sure of that, also cause the people to
>  fight and kill one another, based on ethnolinguistic differences, so they
>  can make themselves rich from their labor, misery, and war.
>  
>  Peace. >>
> 


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anybody have any??? anone know what date it's gonna be so I can start 
plannin the long haul from KC?!?!

I need to know damnit.

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Subsonik presents…

Floorplan  [series 01-05]  Cincinnati  



Floorplan 03 (Fri.2.11.2000)
Dan Curtin. Metamorphic, Sublime. Cleveland.
Titonton. Residual, Metamorphic. Columbus.
Spirit. Technologist. Cincy.
Subgenius. Yellow Hypnotic. Cincy.
Bob-A-Dob. Stillfresh, Clubhead. Cincy.
Adam Jensen. Subsonik. Cincy.
React . Subsonik. Cincy.
Headstrong. Ruffdrapht, Subsonik. Cincy.

This event will go from 10pm - 6am
admission is only $10. 
for directions and info
call 513.682.3282 
or visit us online at:  http://subsonik.linenoiz.com


and upcoming Floorplan events...

Floorpaln 04 (Fri.3.10.2000)
Jay Goodwill. Plastic City, Soul Society. New Jersey
Derrick Thompson. Soiree. XPLOR, Dirty Loop. Detroit
Robert Curcio. Dirty Loop, 3 to 5, Night Life Collective, Soiree. NYC.
Troll & Firecat. Sweat, CBS, DV8. Cincy.
Shiva. The Goddess Complex. Indy.
Spirit. The Technologist. Cincy.
Brian Drabant. Subsonik. Cincy.
Spahn. Transistor, Subsonik. Cincy.


Floorpaln 05 (Fri.3.24.2000)
Kikoman. Deep Fried, Missle, Power Music. Grand Rapids.
Robert Curcio. Dirty Loop, 3 to 5, Night Life Collective, Soiree. NYC.
Perry 'Paris' Ellis. Dirty Loop, 3 to 5, Soiree, Subsonik. Cincy.
Matt Bandy. Alien Squad, Subterror. Lexington.
Derek Plaslaiko. Bachelor Dj's. Detroit.
Adam Jensen. Subsonik. Cincy.
React. Subsonik. Cincy.
Headstrong. Ruffdrapht, Subsonik. Cincy.


And the next full scale subsonik event:

Future Teknology 2   Saturday July 15th, Cincinnati Ohio
An all headliner event featuring talent from Europe and North America.
More info T.B.A.


main info and directions:

513.682.3282
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Power Computing PowerCurve 120 - $125
+
PowerLogix G3 266 upgrade card - $150
(overclocked to 321 mhz)
+
64 meg DIMM - $120
+
2 Gig HD - $65
+
OS 9 upgrade - free
+
Tons of software - free

=  Nice Mac G3 for under $500

Not bad !  =)

Win9x / Win2k ?  Fuck off !!! =)
Finally, I have a computer I can rely on !

For. all you PC freaks out there...I still own & use 3
different PCs.  I hate them all (for the most part).
G3s are 2x faster then Pentium II class and
Mac OS has always been better than Win9x !
As for Win2k ?  Just wait for Mac OS X, then
you'll see what a joke Microsoft really is.

Unfortunately, I can't upgrade this motherboard
to a G4 (which stomps PIII & Athlon to bits),
but I figure within a year or so I can do the
same thing I did with this computer - buy used
for cheap, and upgrade !

(by the way - if you already own a G3, there is
a dual G4 processor card available for $1100.
Why buy a new G4 when you can upgrade to a
dual processor for less ?!?!)

Anyhow...enough PC bashing...the real reason
I wrote this is to ask what e-mail program
you other Mac users prefer.

I'm using Eudora Pro 3.1 for the time being,
but I haven't decided if I like it yet.  I need
something that can handle at least 3 different
e-mail accounts from one program, preferably
within one window as well.

	Joe


PS: Let's not start a PC vs. Mac war
(I know...I suppose I already did).  You'll
never get a Mac user to prefer PCs, but
chances are, you -can- get a PC user to
prefer a Mac, as long as they are open
to taking the time to learn a different OS.



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-----Original Message-----
kim@ www.geniusinsanity.com 773.506.1864
she handles colette,justin long,angel alanis,electric indiago,lego,etc.
--------------------------

.. yeah, kim's real cool to work with .. their web site is nice too ..
photos, bios, real audio, etc .. she helped us put together a show we've got
coming up on the 26th ;) ..


SAT FEB 26th, LANSING, MI

p616.com & groove junkies present: A Party for the Party People


LEGO
-Hard House -UC / Afterhours -Chicago

MUMTAZ
-ripping it up on 3 turntables
-Techno -e-legal underground -Chicago

MATTY
-Tech-Hous -iHR / UC -Chicago


also featuring:


LEX LOCO vs. NANO
4 tables -Groove Junkies -Lansing

RIC H.
-Jack House -groove junkies / p616.com -Grand Rapids

KATALIST
-Jungle -Protostar / KMG / Eidetic -Lansing


$10 w/ 2 cans of food
call day of event for directions: 616/752-8202
check: http://p616.com


see ya! ;)

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Subject: [mw] ALL NIGHT 04-07-00  DES MOINES IOWA
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Des Moines City Code

6-71.01.  Hours of Operation.

No person shall permit any public dance to remain open, nor permit any
public dancing between the hours of 2:00 A.M. and 7:00 A.M., Monday
throughSaturday, and between the hours of 1:00 A.M. and 7:00 A.M.
Sunday.


This is the law as you will find it in the Des Moines City Code.  What
crews in the past years failed to realize is that the Des Moines City
has boundaries/limits.  To get around this law, you simply go beyond
the limits of Des Moines.  This is exactly what the Invasion has done. 
We've gone beyond the city limits of Des Moines to bring you the first
ALL NIGHT party that the Des Moines area has seen in years.

The venue is right off the interstate, it has ample parking, and is
100% fully secured and legal.  The township that the venue is located
in, is supporting us 100%.  The Invasion invites you to come celebrate
with us the rebirth of the once vibrant scene in the Des Moines area. 
We believe in bringing you cheap prices and exceptional talent because
you deserve it.

ALL NIGHT

Invasion Party series 01
featuring the dj talents of:

BARBARELLA - Boulder CO - trance
DOUBLE X - St Louis MO - techno
JON GOTTI - St Louis MO - drum n bass
STORM - Milwaukee WI - goa
.COM - Omaha NE - booty house
NNOTHING - Iowa City/St. Louis - techno
JETHRO - Iowa City - house
RORSACHE - Iowa City - techno

$7 with canned food donation to benefit the Food Bank of Iowa
$9 without

please respect that there is NO SMOKING inside the venue, however,
there will be an OUTSIDE SMOKING AREA.
be sure to come early as space is limited

MAIN INFO LINE: 
The Invasion     515.830.1893 
                (515.ve0.1uze)

SUPPORT LINES: 
Rotation--Iowa City                800.805.7597
Needul Junkeez--Omaha              402.827.9802
Cha Cha Cha--Kansas City           816.545.4402
Allied Substructure--Minneapolis   612.909.6827

ONLINE: www.syquil.com 
E-MAIL: theinvasion@hotmail.com

DRIVING TIMES: 
Iowa City:    1.5 hrs
Omaha:        2.0 hrs
Kansas City:  3.0 hrs
Minneapolis:  4.0 hrs 
St. Louis:    6.0 hrs 


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damn.


i have to go see hallucinogen tomorrow and turn down a hardcore show.  

i liked not having to party in pgh for a second there!

but alas, back to promoter duties, EEECCCKKKKK!!

if anyone is going to be there and you want to meet me, i'll be handing out 
Courts of Chaos flyers or working the door or some shit.

storm - if you get there in time for the party, i'll be setting up around 6 
with them.  i want to meet you.

i fucking hate retarded email accounts!


jester

p.s.  anyone going to the hc show in columbus, be good to reliant and cutup and 
army of angst, they are all crazy fucks and retarded good!!

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to auction myself off on eBay?  I don't want to do it if someone can get
out of buying me because of a legal technicality, since eBay takes a
slice of the closing bid (which would ideally be in excess of $30,000).


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Dynamic Groove <events@dynamicgroove.com> said:

>Power Computing PowerCurve 120 - $125

Nice, crank that bus speed up to 52 MHz!  One question, is the 
processor on a card or is it soldered on the motherboard?

>PowerLogix G3 266 upgrade card - $150
>(overclocked to 321 mhz)

Sweet.  I boosted my G3/350 at work to 500MHz!

>Not bad !  =)

Indeed.  Congrats.

>Win9x / Win2k ?  Fuck off !!! =)
>Finally, I have a computer I can rely on !

Yes.  Thank god, I'm an Apple tech.. I get to play with Macs.. for 
punishment, my supervisor makes me set up Wintel machines.. bleah.

>Unfortunately, I can't upgrade this motherboard
>to a G4 (which stomps PIII & Athlon to bits),
>but I figure within a year or so I can do the
>same thing I did with this computer - buy used
>for cheap, and upgrade !

Are you sure?  If your processor is on a daughtercard, you could 
install a G4.  If it's soldered onto the motherboard, then no, you 
can't.  I want a dual G4 for my 8500.  The Athlon is a pretty cool 
chip for a Windows machine, however.  They can't help it, AMD and 
Motorolla are almost partners!

>I'm using Eudora Pro 3.1 for the time being,
>but I haven't decided if I like it yet.  I need
>something that can handle at least 3 different
>e-mail accounts from one program, preferably
>within one window as well.

I use Eudora Pro.  With OS 9, you can use the keychain access feature 
to easily use one password for all of your e-mail accounts.  I've got 
three of them, and when I check my e-mail, OS9 just asks me for one 
password to check them all..it's cool.  Yes, I'm an unrepentant Mac 
freak...





Justin Pitts
MacOS-centric world view
University of WI-Stout Telecom and Net.
 

 
 

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Todd Moody wrote:
> to auction myself off on eBay?  I don't want to do it if someone can get
> out of buying me because of a legal technicality, since eBay takes a
> slice of the closing bid (which would ideally be in excess of $30,000).

Unfortunatly, eBay has opted that such things as ownership of oneself,
souls,  


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In a message dated 2/10/0 5:43:33 PM, insanityfr wrote:

<<They have the St*v*eT troll
feel to them.>>

The entity known as "Stevie T" has ceased to exist.

As a non-caucasian potential threat to our system,
we have eliminated him from normal society.

We have succesfully drained his financial status
to bankrupcy and completely destroyed his credit
rating.   He will have to work at one of our federally 
controlled facilities for the remainder of his life.  
Ironically, he will be collecting funds from other poor 
yet potentially threatening individuals within our 
matrix.  This will diminish other potentially
threatening minorities and insure our financial power.

Operations "no friends" and "dorkboy" have also
been succesfully implemented insuring what
little reputation he had previously possesed will
be destroyed to the point that no one will ever
believe a single word he says.

We implore all individuals on this list to perpetrate
this campaign until the entity formerly known as 
"Stevie T" has learned to never voice his opinion again
and take his proper place of being a humble public
servant. 

All individuals that refuse to partake in this campaign
will be dealt with in the same fashion as operation
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OK, I'm having a hard time figuring out which section to put myself in
on eBay.
After ruling out several possibilities, I have it narrowed down to these
categories:

Wedding: Accessories
Equestrian Equipment
Tools: Power
Services: General
Educational
Art: Nude
Adult: Toys
Rock/Fossil/Mineral: Shells
Metaphysical
Household: General
Household: Safety, Security
Home Furnishings: Appliances
Home Furnishings: Bedroom
Home Furnishings: Floral
Garden Items: Tools, Equipment


I don't want to sell myself short by implying that I'm only good for
gardening, but then again some rich ladies might be turned on by that
kinda thing.  Input is appreciated.

todd


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Dammit... nevermind.  Stupid ol' eBay. <:p

Maybe Yahoo or C|net hasn't written those kinda restrictions into their
bylaws yet...


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> <<They have the St*v*eT troll
> feel to them.>>
> 
> The entity known as "Stevie T" has ceased to exist.
> 
> As a non-caucasian potential threat to our system,
> we have eliminated him from normal society.
> 
> We have succesfully drained his financial status
> to bankrupcy and completely destroyed his credit
> rating.   He will have to work at one of our
> federally 
> controlled facilities for the remainder of his life.
>  
> Ironically, he will be collecting funds from other
> poor 
> yet potentially threatening individuals within our 
> matrix.  This will diminish other potentially
> threatening minorities and insure our financial
> power.
> 
> Operations "no friends" and "dorkboy" have also
> been succesfully implemented insuring what
> little reputation he had previously possesed will
> be destroyed to the point that no one will ever
> believe a single word he says.
> 
> We implore all individuals on this list to
> perpetrate
> this campaign until the entity formerly known as 
> "Stevie T" has learned to never voice his opinion
> again
> and take his proper place of being a humble public
> servant. 


ANYWAY.. who's week is it to go grocery shopping...?

-Nicci, Opiey n Bri 






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I'm going to take the plunge and say that I heard a nasty rumor it will be
the weekend of may 12/13th.

Matt

On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, dylan dorrell wrote:

> anybody have any??? anone know what date it's gonna be so I can start 
> plannin the long haul from KC?!?!
> 
> I need to know damnit.
> 
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Subject: [mw] SEX!!!!!
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made you look =P


Sorry if you have seen this before, but I think its funny and I like it. Its 
the goods. So there.
<3lor

The "How Sexy Are Your Sounds" article by Sara Finlayson reads:

Music Style--HOUSE
Audience: Platinum American Express cocaine crowd.
Attire: Sophisticated gals in tight-fitting black lycra and open-shirted
fellows sporting gold medallions. Also big among the gay community
where shirts are usually off. 
Motions: Bumping and grinding. Always sweaty.
Sex Status: Everyone likes to "do it" here. A veritable meat market.
Get Laid?: 10 outta 10

Music Style--JUNGLE/D&B
Audience: Fed-up ex-ravers and hyperactive Hip-Hop heads. Relatively
young, more popular with girls than most forms of electronic music.
Attire: Hip-Hop meets rave goes for a skate and then joins the Army.
Motions: Flipper-like motions of the hands with a few moves collected
from watching Beat Street. Circle dancer meets MC Hammer.
Sex Status: Jungle, like other forms of bass-heavy music, is very>>sexy.
Get Laid?: 6 outta 10

Music Style--TECHNO
Audience: Dudes who've been in the rave scene way too long.
Attire: What I came in.
Motions: Leaning against the wall discussing why Techno is superior to
every other form of music on the planet.
Sex Status: Too busy talking about Techno to notice.
Get Laid?: 3 otta 10

Music Style--HARDCORE/GABBER
Audience: Tweeked out teens. Predominantly frustrated males. Also
popular with serial killers.
Attire: Multiple piercings, wife-beater shirts, baggy trousers, and
short hair.
Motions: Vigorous jumping up and down, pogo'ing, and speaker fucking.
Sex Staus: Stuck midway through adolescent masturbatory phase.
Anxious and feverish dance style suggests an urgent need to get laid.
Get Laid?: 0 outta 10 (only a mother could love these guys)

Music Style--GOA/PSYCH TRANCE
Audience: Crusties and anti-establishment trust fund babies
Attire: Matted dreadlocks, tie dye, and sandals remain popular. A
faint whiff of Nag Champa is usually evident.
Motions: Hippie dance style reminiscent of '60s exploitation movies.
Crazy arms motions and rubbery legs usually point to excessive LSD intake.
Sex Status: Attractive to each other. Hose down before use.
Get Laid?: Depends on the phase of the Moon.

Music Style--PROGRESSIVE HOUSE/TRANCE
Audience: University students and candy ravers.
Attire: 'E' friendly apparel, including fluffy backpacks, glitter,
pacifiers, and anything resembling a Dr.Suess character.
Motions: Hands in the air. Eyes rolling back. Occasionally slumped
against the wall.
Sex Status: No thanks...we're in it for the music. Hugs welcome.
Get Laid?: Males: 2 outta 10 (too busy trainspotting), Females: 6 outta
10 (they look great...to dirty old men)


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***Aphrodite CD's (very limited quantity made!)
2 CD set now available at Atlanta locations:  Wish, Satellite, Rewind
or order them on our site today:   www.pleazure.net/aphrodite

please note there were VERY FEW of these CD's made and half of them have
already sold out in the stores.  We estimate the remainder of the CD's to
sell out in the next 2 weeks so do not wait to secure your own piece of
Aphrodite!

We will be running a few Aphrodite promotions/contests so stay tuned for
copies of the new Aphrodite 12" "Woman That Rolls EP" set to release on
March
14th in stores!
_______________________________________________________
Connected North America:
ATLANTA
Saturday, March 25, 2000
Pleazure welcomes you to join the celebration as we once again become
"Connected" across North America and to some of our favorite talent we have
hosted throughout the years.

T-1000 (Pure Sonik-Detroit/Tresor-Berlin) TECHNO
1:30-3:30am [Club Arena]
He blew our minds at "First Episode", now come experience a techno
revolution
as T-1000 uses Atlanta as his battleground armed with a sick display of
decks
and EFX.  www.puresonik.net

APHRODITE (Aphrodite/Urban Takeover/V2/UK) JUNGLE
3:30-6am [Warehouse Arena]
The Official Atlanta "Connected" resident 3 years running.  This junglist
needs no introduction to one of his favorite crowds in the world.
www.aphroditerecordings.co.uk

FREAKY FLOW (Placebo/MWE/Fiction/Stickman/Toronto, Canada) JUNGLE
1:30-3:30am [Warehouse Arena]
Not many can compete with the cutting and scratching skills of this renowned
hip hop/dnb DJ hailing from the Drum N' Bass capital of the world.
www.djfreakyflow.com

FLIPSIDE (Stickmen/Placebo/MWE/Energy Radio/Toronto, Canada) HOUSE
12-1:30am [Club Arena]
On top of his MC set beside partner Freaky Flow, Flipside blends a mix of
hard and soulful tech-house with the smooth lyrical style of which Atlanta
has never seen. Check his electro-tech radio show at www.1groove.com

SEAN O'HARA (Playskool/Florida) TRANCE
10-12am [Club Arena]
Lots of hype about this DJ who debuted at our NYE millennium event.

JAGURUNDI (Rydim Ryderz/Legion/Pleazure) DNB
12-1:30am [Warehouse Arena]

ISIS & BOMBAZI (Rydim Ryderz/Legion/Atlanta) DNB
6-close [Warehouse Arena]

DARK 1 (Satellite/Freakforce/WAR/Atlanta) New School Electro
4:30-close [Club Arena]

PROFESSOR ZERO *LIVE*  (Independent/Atlanta)
3:30-4:30am [Club Arena]

ROC (Dubplate Special/Toronto) DNB
10-12am [Warehouse Arena]

Contact Pleazure  (770) 492-0912
pleazure@pleazure.net
www.pleazure.net

Admission:  18 + welcome
Doors open at 10pm
$20 presale until 3/16
$23 presale until 3/25
$25 night of event
It is advised that you purchase presales and arrive early!
Get your presales online at www.pleazure.net
Or pick them up at these locations:
Satellite (404) 880-9746
Rewind (404) 827-9463
Wish Gwinnett (770) 814-0940
Wish L5P (404) 880-0402
RPM 912-234-0093
Knee Deep 704-335-0442
Bad Seed 205-933-7333
Faith Records 615-726-3700
Big Apple Music 803-798-7790

Venue:  Studio Central: Downtown Atlanta, GA
Come see the all the changes we have made:  larger walkways between rooms,
new stage, platforms and hardwood floor in the club room!
2 spacious rooms totaling over 20,000 sq. ft.
150 Central Avenue on the corner of Central Ave & Memorial Dr.

Directions from the North:
I-75/85 South into downtown.  Take exit # 93 (Martin Luther King Dr), go
straight off the exit.  Turn left on Washington then a right onto Memorial
Dr. Venue is one block down on the right.

Directions from the South:
I-75/85 North into downtown.  Take exit # 91 (Fulton/Central) and follow the
signs to Central Ave.  After 2nd light, venue is on left.

Directions from the East/West:
Take I-285 to I-75 or I-85 and follow the directions above.

Aphrodite CD's available at the vendor's table (if they don't sell out
first)
Show your Pleazure card at the door for tons of FREE giveaways!

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I have found Audio Depot and Nice Musique (conveniently right next to each
other on Johnson St) to be a great place in Madison to pick up fliers for
area raves & events.

I am not that familiar with Milwaukee though. Where are the best places to
find rave fliers in the Milwaukee area?

Yes, I know it is easy to find out about the events on the web or via this
maillist (when msgs are actually about raves) - but lots of people like the
real fliers and I'd like to recommend good places to find them (adding a
section for that on my Madison-Milwaukee Events page).

Thanks.  Maybe I'll see you at Menage A Trois in Madison this Saturday
night! (and remember ... it's not the PANTS ... its the shoes!)

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 11 03:47:51 2000
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So we covered hardware... 

Yes, screw Microsoft...

Now start running LinuxPPC and watch the performace increase some more. :)



On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Dynamic Groove wrote:

> 
> 
> Power Computing PowerCurve 120 - $125
> +
> PowerLogix G3 266 upgrade card - $150
> (overclocked to 321 mhz)
> +
> 64 meg DIMM - $120
> +
> 2 Gig HD - $65
> +
> OS 9 upgrade - free
> +
> Tons of software - free
> 
> =  Nice Mac G3 for under $500
> 
> Not bad !  =)
> 
> Win9x / Win2k ?  Fuck off !!! =)
> Finally, I have a computer I can rely on !
> 
> For. all you PC freaks out there...I still own & use 3
> different PCs.  I hate them all (for the most part).
> G3s are 2x faster then Pentium II class and
> Mac OS has always been better than Win9x !
> As for Win2k ?  Just wait for Mac OS X, then
> you'll see what a joke Microsoft really is.
> 
> Unfortunately, I can't upgrade this motherboard
> to a G4 (which stomps PIII & Athlon to bits),
> but I figure within a year or so I can do the
> same thing I did with this computer - buy used
> for cheap, and upgrade !
> 
> (by the way - if you already own a G3, there is
> a dual G4 processor card available for $1100.
> Why buy a new G4 when you can upgrade to a
> dual processor for less ?!?!)
> 
> Anyhow...enough PC bashing...the real reason
> I wrote this is to ask what e-mail program
> you other Mac users prefer.
> 
> I'm using Eudora Pro 3.1 for the time being,
> but I haven't decided if I like it yet.  I need
> something that can handle at least 3 different
> e-mail accounts from one program, preferably
> within one window as well.
> 
> 	Joe
> 
> 
> PS: Let's not start a PC vs. Mac war
> (I know...I suppose I already did).  You'll
> never get a Mac user to prefer PCs, but
> chances are, you -can- get a PC user to
> prefer a Mac, as long as they are open
> to taking the time to learn a different OS.
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Please click on the following link ...it's VERY
important:


http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/


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<< Music Style--HARDCORE/GABBER
 Audience: Tweeked out teens. Predominantly frustrated males. Also
 popular with serial killers.
 Attire: Multiple piercings, wife-beater shirts, baggy trousers, and
 short hair.
 Motions: Vigorous jumping up and down, pogo'ing, and speaker fucking.
 Sex Staus: Stuck midway through adolescent masturbatory phase.
 Anxious and feverish dance style suggests an urgent need to get laid.
 Get Laid?: 0 outta 10 (only a mother could love these guys)>>

THat would explain why I haven't gotten any since Christmas break. 
Note to self: Grow back hair, learn to dance, drop the hardcore.


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>From: "Kevin M. Ryan" <kevinryan@students.wisc.edu>
>Subject: Re: math & biblical codes wuz [mw] cipher: generation gaps
>
>I really hate to post (flame) about stuff like this, but I
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Friday, February 11th, 2000
Indianapolis, Indiana


Scarab Records and Muzique Boutique would like to welcome you to their 
Palace
of Love, their House of Sin, their Den of Decadence.  Cum with us and
discover how we induce hot love juices running down your leg, penetrating
beats putting out yo' back, and vibrating melodies crawling up in them guts.
Go deep, deeper, the deepest . . . with Deep Love.


OM Records San Francisco Sessions World Tour 2000


MARK FARINA {OM Records}
This house legend is considered one of the 5 best house DJs in the world.
For his first appearance in Indianapolis Mark will be celebrating the 
release
of his new CD "San Francisco Sessions:  Volume One".  Mark Farina redefined
house music in the 90s and spread the love of acid jazz throughout the
underground with his critically acclaimed Mushroom Jazz CDs.  We promise you
won't go home broken hearted, but you may have a heart attack!

DJ HEATHER {OM Records}
What is there to say that has not already been said before.  What in the 
world
could we possibly think of that has not already been thought of before.
What else is there that has not already been there before.  DJ Heather is 
the
Queen of all DJs, the Mother of all Music, the Goddess of all that Glitters.
We actually saw her play once in Texas.  Sometimes the messenger is more
important than the message.  Kowtow to Cupid, 'cus your ass is about to fall
in love!

DJ SKIP (Pushpac) Chicago

TRANSLUCENT (Transparent) Chicago

SLATER HOGAN vs. CYBERJIVE on a 4 turntable tagteam
(Muzique Boutique/Genius Insanity)


Kissing Booth opens at 10pm

$20 the night of show
No pre-sale

Hard ass sound and big balls of light spanked and splattered all over your
eyes and ears by The Log Boys.


For more information contact Scarab Records @

Scarab Records
317.767.5103
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happy2bhardcore v.4

Expected Release Date: February 22,
                    2000


wooohooo=)

peace-
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"Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad."  (unattributed)

Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.
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At 12:25 AM 2/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>happy2bhardcore v.4

*yawn*

great!  another slow-ass mix of played out anthems so that anabolic frolic 
can charge more than he's worth for dj bookings!

you should be more concerned about HARDCORE THURSDAY on feb 17, when 
acclaim releases the long awaited video game "ECW:  THE HARDCORE REVOLUTION" !!


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In a message dated 2/11/0 1:45:18 AM, todd wrote:

<<I don't want to sell myself short by implying that I'm only good for
gardening, but then again some rich ladies might be turned on by that
kinda thing.  Input is appreciated.

todd>>

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>Music Style--HOUSE
>Audience: Platinum American Express cocaine crowd.
>Attire: Sophisticated gals in tight-fitting black lycra and open-shirted
>fellows sporting gold medallions. Also big among the gay community
>where shirts are usually off.
>Motions: Bumping and grinding. Always sweaty.
>Sex Status: Everyone likes to "do it" here. A veritable meat market.
>Get Laid?: 10 outta 10

ya know... when you put it that way, i guess house isn't all THAT bad.... :)

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This is a test to see if Outlook Express will filter my mail to the correct
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This is a test to see if Outlook Express will filter any mail from or 
containing "Steviet" (or variations thereof) to the trash folder.

Goodbye.

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MW-Raves filter test.

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Here we go again...

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You know, if more people were posting right now, I wouldn't have to do all
these tests !

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FRIDAY MARCH 10TH MUZIQUE BOUTIQUE PRESENTS
FOOLS GOLD with
COLETTE/GENIUS INSANITY/CHICAGO
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CHOCOLATE THE FREAKY AFRONAUT/H.O.B./INDY
and others to be announced.
it will be at the hot spot in bloomington,in
$10 at the door,or $5 with an I.U. college i.d.
doors open at 10pm-6am
call 317.592.9536 for info or write muziquebou@aol.com

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>Envelope-to: michael@happy.hardcorps.org
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feb 21-feb 26 at columbus gold!

*SERENITY*

no doubt Mr. B Showers and I will mash up de place unnnnnnfffhfhfh serenity 
is sooooOOOOooo hot!  UNF

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*CHILDREN OF THE NIGHT*
 From American Cheese Productions

A Rave in Two Acts
Columbus, Ohio, USA

24-HOUR INFO:  (614) 447-6568

act one - "CHILDREN" - Friday, April 7, 2000
act two - "THE NIGHT" - Friday, May 5, 2000

100% TRUE RAVE SOUNDS!
happy hardcore, hardcore, oldskool, and jump-up jungle, all nite long!

American Cheese Productions follows up on "Hard Daze" with two more events 
for the hardcore family!!

*CHILDREN* - FRIDAY, APRIL 7, 2000
featuring the talents of:

	*Muppetfucker (happy hardcore - austin, tx)
	*Kevy Kev (91-92 UK hardcore - columbus, oh)
	*Matt Bandy (oldskool acid house - lexington, ky)
	*Michael Knight (happy hardcore - columbus, oh)
	*Watdafuk (hard ass shit! - columbus, oh)
	*DJ Hawstyle (ragga jungle & drum-n-bass - columbus, oh)
	*D.J. Tanner (happy hardcore - cincinnati, oh)
	*Tha Rumble MC (dallas, tx)
	*Kid Entropy (chicago, il)
	*More MC's TBA

*THE NIGHT* - FRIDAY, MAY 5, 2000
featuring the talents of:

	*Cloudskipper (happy hardcore - los angeles, ca)
	*Dreamgirl (happy hardcore - phoenix, az)
	*DJ Tronic (jump-up jungle - los angeles, ca)
	*Michael Knight (happy hardcore - columbus, oh)
	*D.J. Tanner (happy hardcore - cincinnati, oh)
	*MC Jumper (rochester, ny)
	*MC ADB (united kingdom)
	*Heavy (columbus, oh)
	*More DJ's and MC's TBA

---
You know how we do it!!  Plenty of free toys, whistles, candy, water, Hi-C, 
glowsticks, and whatever else we surprise you with!  Admission to each of 
these eents will be only $10 before midnite!!  Leave the negativity at 
home, put on a smile, and get ready to go nuts!!  And just like the tune 
says...
"Come along and join the scene, live your life like a rave machine!!"

**24-HOUR INFORMATION:  (614) 447-6568  |  www.kickinbeats.com**

**LOOK OUT FOR "SHOOTING STAR" - COMING JULY 8, 2000!!**

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In a message dated 02/11/1970, 6:06:50 AM, michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
<<feb 21-feb 26 at columbus gold!

*SERENITY>>

 Are we on the pornstar tip agagin?!? Well..I'm not sure who I'm into 
anymore. I was into Silvia Saint. She's still a sexual dynamo....

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In a message dated 02/10/2000 5:38:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
BubbIeGirI@aol.com writes:

> mw-raves@hyperreal.org
Ok, i've seen both types of clovers in ohio. The one that has been show to 
contain DXM has squared off leaves more like a + cross than a clover. There 
are some clovers that have a very nice pressed clover shape and are pure 
MDMA. If you are goin to buy these pills find someone who has seen the real 
deal. Take some advice from an ex-user, DON'T buy pills from people you don't 
know, by knowing a person I don't mean you've bought pills from them before 
and they were good 8) 

Get High on Beats
Steve

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 11 14:57:37 2000
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Now if Macintosh could fucking make a decent oporating
system for servers maybe theyd go somewhere.
I had to work on some OS/2 machines at my old job,
what a pain in the ass!!!
Worse than fucking NT

--- Jå¥Péé <pittsj@post.uwstout.edu> wrote:
> Dynamic Groove <events@dynamicgroove.com> said:
> 
> >Power Computing PowerCurve 120 - $125
> 
> Nice, crank that bus speed up to 52 MHz!  One
> question, is the 
> processor on a card or is it soldered on the
> motherboard?
> 
> >PowerLogix G3 266 upgrade card - $150
> >(overclocked to 321 mhz)
> 
> Sweet.  I boosted my G3/350 at work to 500MHz!
> 
> >Not bad !  =)
> 
> Indeed.  Congrats.
> 
> >Win9x / Win2k ?  Fuck off !!! =)
> >Finally, I have a computer I can rely on !
> 
> Yes.  Thank god, I'm an Apple tech.. I get to play
> with Macs.. for 
> punishment, my supervisor makes me set up Wintel
> machines.. bleah.
> 
> >Unfortunately, I can't upgrade this motherboard
> >to a G4 (which stomps PIII & Athlon to bits),
> >but I figure within a year or so I can do the
> >same thing I did with this computer - buy used
> >for cheap, and upgrade !
> 
> Are you sure?  If your processor is on a
> daughtercard, you could 
> install a G4.  If it's soldered onto the
> motherboard, then no, you 
> can't.  I want a dual G4 for my 8500.  The Athlon is
> a pretty cool 
> chip for a Windows machine, however.  They can't
> help it, AMD and 
> Motorolla are almost partners!
> 
> >I'm using Eudora Pro 3.1 for the time being,
> >but I haven't decided if I like it yet.  I need
> >something that can handle at least 3 different
> >e-mail accounts from one program, preferably
> >within one window as well.
> 
> I use Eudora Pro.  With OS 9, you can use the
> keychain access feature 
> to easily use one password for all of your e-mail
> accounts.  I've got 
> three of them, and when I check my e-mail, OS9 just
> asks me for one 
> password to check them all..it's cool.  Yes, I'm an
> unrepentant Mac 
> freak...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Justin Pitts
> MacOS-centric world view
> University of WI-Stout Telecom and Net.
>  
> 
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Ross Wolinsky wrote:

> ya know... when you put it that way, i guess house isn't all THAT bad.... :)
> 
> =-riotnerd

yes, . . yes it is.:p
but so is Ross:)



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Phil, your a sexual dynamo. . .
(send me that link to all the neat flash files could ya? please!!!. i'll
be your sexual dynamo if you do. dynamo! dynamo! dynamo! dynamo! i love
how that roles off the tongue!:)
-choppie

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 PHILFART@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 02/11/1970, 6:06:50 AM, michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:
> <<feb 21-feb 26 at columbus gold!
> 
> *SERENITY>>
> 
>  Are we on the pornstar tip agagin?!? Well..I'm not sure who I'm into 
> anymore. I was into Silvia Saint. She's still a sexual dynamo....
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ya know if i was a little richer, i'd have every os possible. the more you
know the better right? so if someone can find me a decent Mac for around
400 dollars, i'd be more than willing to learn! $400 for a g3? i know i'm
pushing it.
broke ass bitch
-choppie
 


On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> Now if Macintosh could fucking make a decent oporating
> system for servers maybe theyd go somewhere.
> I had to work on some OS/2 machines at my old job,
> what a pain in the ass!!!
> Worse than fucking NT
> 


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WTW4: Even Drunker.  Some time in May.  That's all the info there is now.

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Nope, eBay made it illegal to auction humans or human parts some time
early last year.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 11 16:45:24 2000
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Just to let you all know... in case you hadn't already noticed... I added
this event to the calendar...

Please also read my text after this event description... :)

<snip>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
								       |
REALLY FAKE EVENT!!!	     tue jul 4 . ann arbor, mi . COCKSUCKERS 2 |

On July 4th, 2000 --  Krackhead Kandy Kids on Ketamine are proud to
present the second installment in the Cocksucker series.

Featuring - 

Luke M. --  Cocksukers On Wax - Fort Worth

The most feared man in the midwest will dazzle you with
his skills and uncanny ability to mix slamming country and western tunes
with the hardest edged sweedish techno all while talking out of his ass.


StevieT --  I'm Gay Recordings - Columbus

A midwest favorite, he never fails to impress with his
booty\trance\florida breaks\happy hardcore mixes that leave crowds with
their dick in their hands and their wads on his face.  Watch Stevie
scratch with his penis as he performs his always entertaining "my penis
is the size of a stylus" trick.

Dirk Dreyer --  A&R frontman for Sony Records, and the man responsible for
the release of the remake of Rolando's "Knights of the Jaguar", this
cocksucker spews major lable bullshit better than anyone in the industry.

Ron "The Hedgehog" Jeremy --  No stranger to the rave scene, prepare for a
verbal ass-fuck by the man who has slept with an estimated 1700 women.  

Sound - 120 watt Sony Boombox.

Lighting - Kids with flashlights, burning cigarettes, and watch the 
self-proclaimed "oldskooler" StevieT bust out madd phat liquid
with glowsticks.  Newbie Boobies beware.

Feel free to bring drugs, weapons, and bad additudes as we will not have
be having any security!

No feeding the dog please.

Presale tickets are now onsale at Mojo, Spin Cycle, Dubplate Pressure, and
Recordtime.  Only 50 tickets available at $.50

First 20 guests will be able to witness Stevie and Luke 
"tea bag" each other during our ceremonial pre-party ritual.   
<snip>

Should we make this event real?  
I would be willing to have this event at my house.
Of course there are some details we would have to take out that aren't
true... or would we?  with details of a party like this, who has to be
accurate!  let me know what y'all think... :)

Love,
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In a message dated 2/11/2000 9:08:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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<<  WOMEN'S ENGLISH
 > > >
 > > > "Yes" = No
 > > >
 > > > "No" = Yes
 > > >
 > > > "Maybe" = No
 > > >
 > > > "It's your decision" = The correct decision should
 > > be obvious
 > > >
 > > > by now
 > > >
 > > > "Do what you want" = You'll pay for this later.
 > > >
 > > > "We need to talk" = I need to complain.
 > > >
 > > > "Sure....... ... go ahead" = I don't want you to.
 > > >
 > > > "I'm not upset" = Of course I'm upset, you moron!
 > > >
 > > > "Be romantic, turn out the lights" = I have flabby
 > > thighs.
 > > >
 > > > "This kitchen is so inconvenient" = I want a new
 > > house.
 > > >
 > > > "I want new curtains" = and carpeting, and
 > > furniture, and
 > > > wallpaper...
 > > >
 > > > "I heard a noise" =I noticed you were almost asleep.
 > > >
 > > > "Do you love me?" = I'm going to ask for something
 > > > expensive
 > > >
 > > > "How much do you love me?" = I did something today
 > > you're
 > > > not going to really like me
 > > >
 > > > "Is my butt fat?" = Tell me I'm beautiful.
 > > >
 > > > "You have to learn to communicate" = Just agree with
 > > me.
 > > >
 > > > "Are you listening to me?" = [Too late, you're
 > > dead.]
 > > >
 > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
 > > * * * * *
 > > >
 > > > MEN'S ENGLISH:
 > > >
 > > > "I'm hungry" = I'm hungry.
 > > >
 > > > "I'm sleepy" = I'm sleepy.
 > > >
 > > > "I'm tired" = I'm tired.
 > > >
 > > > "Do you want to go to a movie?" = I'd eventually
 > > like to have
 > > > sex with you
 > > >
 > > > "Can I take you out to dinner?" = I'd eventually
 > > like to have
 > > > sex with you
 > > >
 > > > "Can I call you sometime?" = I'd eventually like to
 > > have sex
 > > > with you
 > > >
 > > > "May I have this dance?" = I'd eventually like to
 > > have sex with
 > > >  you
 > > >
 > > > "Nice dress!" = Nice cleavage!
 > > >
 > > > "You look tense, let me give you a massage" = I want
 > > to
 > > > fondle you
 > > >
 > > > "What's wrong?" = What meaningless self-inflicted
 > >    psychological
 > > >  trauma
 > > > are you going through now?
 > > >
 > > > "What's wrong?" = I guess sex tonight is out of the
 > > question.
 > > >
 > > > "I'm bored" = Do you want to have sex?
 > > >
 > > > "I love you" = Let's have sex now.
 > > >
 > > > "I love you too" = Okay, I said it...we'd better
 > > have sex now!
 > > >
 > > > "Let's talk" = I am trying to impress you by showing
 > > that I am a deep
 > > > person
 > > > and maybe then you'd like to have sex with me.
 > > >
 > > > "Will you marry me?" = I want to make it illegal for
 > > you to have  sex
 > > > with
 > > > other guys. >>


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>From: lilprincess14@alloymail.com
>To: devil_chic6969@hotmail.com
>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:56:03 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>
>
>  ---- you wrote:
> > WOMEN'S ENGLISH
> > >
> > > "Yes" = No
> > >
> > > "No" = Yes
> > >
> > > "Maybe" = No
> > >
> > > "It's your decision" = The correct decision should
> > be obvious
> > >
> > > by now
> > >
> > > "Do what you want" = You'll pay for this later.
> > >
> > > "We need to talk" = I need to complain.
> > >
> > > "Sure....... ... go ahead" = I don't want you to.
> > >
> > > "I'm not upset" = Of course I'm upset, you moron!
> > >
> > > "Be romantic, turn out the lights" = I have flabby
> > thighs.
> > >
> > > "This kitchen is so inconvenient" = I want a new
> > house.
> > >
> > > "I want new curtains" = and carpeting, and
> > furniture, and
> > > wallpaper...
> > >
> > > "I heard a noise" =I noticed you were almost asleep.
> > >
> > > "Do you love me?" = I'm going to ask for something
> > > expensive
> > >
> > > "How much do you love me?" = I did something today
> > you're
> > > not going to really like me
> > >
> > > "Is my butt fat?" = Tell me I'm beautiful.
> > >
> > > "You have to learn to communicate" = Just agree with
> > me.
> > >
> > > "Are you listening to me?" = [Too late, you're
> > dead.]
> > >
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > * * * * *
> > >
> > > MEN'S ENGLISH:
> > >
> > > "I'm hungry" = I'm hungry.
> > >
> > > "I'm sleepy" = I'm sleepy.
> > >
> > > "I'm tired" = I'm tired.
> > >
> > > "Do you want to go to a movie?" = I'd eventually
> > like to have
> > > sex with you
> > >
> > > "Can I take you out to dinner?" = I'd eventually
> > like to have
> > > sex with you
> > >
> > > "Can I call you sometime?" = I'd eventually like to
> > have sex
> > > with you
> > >
> > > "May I have this dance?" = I'd eventually like to
> > have sex with
> > >  you
> > >
> > > "Nice dress!" = Nice cleavage!
> > >
> > > "You look tense, let me give you a massage" = I want
> > to
> > > fondle you
> > >
> > > "What's wrong?" = What meaningless self-inflicted
> >    psychological
> > >  trauma
> > > are you going through now?
> > >
> > > "What's wrong?" = I guess sex tonight is out of the
> > question.
> > >
> > > "I'm bored" = Do you want to have sex?
> > >
> > > "I love you" = Let's have sex now.
> > >
> > > "I love you too" = Okay, I said it...we'd better
> > have sex now!
> > >
> > > "Let's talk" = I am trying to impress you by showing
> > that I am a deep
> > > person
> > > and maybe then you'd like to have sex with me.
> > >
> > > "Will you marry me?" = I want to make it illegal for
> > you to have  sex
> > > with
> > > other guys.
> > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > Now here's the deal, If u wanna have a great love
> > life
> > > Send this to atleast 10 people!
> > > HURRY UP B4 ITS 2 LATE
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > http://im.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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It's not really going to go down.... DAMN IT! I plan the whole month
around this!!! Saved all those wad session for this one night, I'm about
to explode! AHH!!

:)

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
signed 
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Just to add to the fire, Columbus and Cortes, most
definitely, but dont forget the good ol Government of
the United States of America who forced people off
their own soil, looked the other way when train
companies were killing people to make way for the
railroad, doing the job themselves sometimes, and also
enslaving people and making it official that they were
not a whole human being.


> The same has happened to all kinds of people in the
> past. We always condemn 
> Columbus and Cortes but what about Alexander the
> Great? Was he any different?

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> salami@queerair.org writes:
> 
> << CALLING ALL CARS.........
>  WTW 4 MAY 13th
>  you know
>
where..................................................
>   >>
> 
> hell fuckin yeah.  anyone wanna be thrown in the
> mud?  <grin>

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In a message dated 2/10/00 11:41:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu 

<< Peace.  The "race" and "ethnic" discussion started when I asked Kid
 Entropy if the guy that challenged him to a lyrical duel was caucasian.
 The reason I asked is because it is RARE to see caucasians battling each
 other lyrically (RARE, not non-existent), because overall, within the
 Wilderness of North America, there is not a DEMAND for this type of
 "therapy" amongst caucasians, as compared to other people, especially
 so-called "minorities", who, as a whole, have identity problems with
 respect to the other human families of the planet earth (perming,
 consumption of meat, make-up, blond wigs, extensions, name-brand apparel,
 automobiles, jewelry, etc.)  This is where people started to see
 "caucasian" and become upset, interested, you name
 it.  Since hip-hop CULTURALLY speaking (not industry speaking) is
 dominated by black people, I had to wonder what were the dynamics that
 caused this caucasian to want to battle, at, of all places, a "rave"?
 Kid Entropy pointed out that people who tried to be "down" but are not as
 skilled, will try to pick so-called "easy targets".
 Peace.   >>

as much as I've been following or not following this whole thing past that 
statement... I've got a couple of small points to make.

The philosophy of the 'original' man, factions of the 5% nation, Garvey, 
Elijah, you name it, were at base level for 'original' culture.  Original 
culture by definition by these sects and people were people of African 
descent... people with melanin... Its very purpose as a 
philosophy/religion/what have you was in some ways to give back what was 
stolen from Africans by America, the dutch and others.  Whether that be 
pride, spirit, or a sense of fucking self... no matter what it is... Radical 
groups, as we would call them, exist by design... because of certain 'radical 
ideas' that existed in the past at the founding of this country whether or 
not we try to bury that.  and here's a strong statement.. but... when they 
speak of democracy lending itself to hitler's rise and the genocide of the 
jews... its a fucking direct parralel in the minds of african americans... 
because democracy lended itself to america's own genocide.  These are things 
that are present in every black man and woman's mind... Things that white men 
and women won't understand... (i've heard the argument... the likelihood of a 
white person's great great grandmother being beat to death by a wooden club 
for insubordination and having to deal with that degree of separation... is 
0%)   Now to bring it back into the context of this list... The black culture 
and struggle like i've said before... is permanently ingrained not only in 
hip hop culture... but beyond... No one gets on Underground Resistance for 
having opinions that resemble that support the 'empowerment of black culture' 
  Moodyman has made some BLATANT statements about white people who produce 
(which personally in some ways I understand...)  

Black culture is still being systematically stolen, prepackaged, and sold off 
to everyone and stripped of its 'original' status.  It happened with rock n' 
roll and it will happen with hip hop.  It already has happened... if you look 
at the actual business of it.  How can a white head of a certain music 
company... come off with a straight face asking suburban black youth to 'add 
more guns and pimps' into their music because thats 'what sells.'   Blacks 
are still under fire, still at war, and still in danger whether we as whites 
want to pay attention to it or not.

What I'm getting at in a roundabout way is this... It is a fundamental 
purpose of the previously mentioned sects to preserve the integrity and 
structure of its 'history.'   African Empowerment is a reality... as is 
Hispanic Empowerment... and hold the phone here for a second... in some ways 
'Caucasian Empowerment'... Empowerment is a good thing... its making an 
organization solid.  Black organizations like the above have empowered their 
race by their own methods and means... focusing on areas that need 
empowerment... identity, equality, etcera... things that have been horribly 
deficient for a long time... the difference with 'caucasian empowerment' is 
that certain sects involved in empowering 'caucasians' focus on areas that DO 
NOT need empowerment... instead of empowering our acknowledgement of other 
cultures outside our melanin perspective... they limit themselves... turning 
aspects of white 'power' or 'empowerment' into white 'weakness'

now catch yourself... when I said the words white power or white 
empowerment... you flinched.  You felt the reactionary inside of yourself 
ready to snap... same with if I say black power.  same if I ask a question 
like "Was the mc original or caucasian?"

I admit the phrasing and the set up... might not have helped matters much... 
(fuck even i reacted with "I don't know what thats got to do with it.")  but 
knowing the backstory of 'original' and its relation in this case to hip hop 
culture... i get it.  I get Jahzid's usage of the word 'Allah'... I get 
120... I get 5%, 10%, 85% nation... clap clap for me.  Alot of people on this 
list for whatever reasons don't.  and therein, lies the problem.   Its a very 
and i hate using the word 'militant' philosophy to white people.  Militant in 
the perspective in that maybe black people are still at war in this society.. 
struggling to keep their cultural identity sacred.  and before i hear the 
"its not as bad as it seems... argument."  who knows how bad it is unless 
they're in the skin.  

someone made the point that the fact that Jahzid is involved in the rave 
scene with white people and 'perhaps' even on this list in my opinion... is 
proof positive that jahzid doesn't 'hate' white people... I don't know if 
thats even been stated... but 'racist' as we're throwing around the term... 
the threat of that word is hate.  and therefore, hatred of white people in 
some sense.

racist by definition i've heard out of many black leaders mouths is 
'uplifting the race.'  going back to our 'empowerment' discussion... Bringing 
things back in balance.  overstepping the boundaries of equality with 
empowerment... is dangerous... uplifting the race by 'killing another' is 
obviously overstepping... same with spreading "hate"

Jahzid's posting of his perspective... one of which has its place in the rave 
scene... by design... because naturally arguably... a good portion (varying 
in opinion) of 'rave music' has the root of black music as its backbone... is 
one that some of us may not 'understand'   but is it that hard to understand 
anyways from a historical perspective?  You didn't see him say "Fuck whitey," 
after all did you?  

I don't want to post anymore... I'm tired.  Fucking realize everyone's point 
of origin and perspective, respect it,  fucking hug and make up.

entro = cracker 

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> 
> ya know if i was a little richer, i'd have every os possible. the more you
> know the better right? so if someone can find me a decent Mac for around
> 400 dollars, i'd be more than willing to learn! $400 for a g3? i know i'm
> pushing it.
> broke ass bitch
> -choppie
>


Look on eBay for a first or 2nd generation PowerPC.
Buy it cheap, and upgrade to a G3 or G4.

That's what I did.  It was under $500 total.  =)

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In a message dated 2/10/00 11:41:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
allah@metalab.unc.edu 

<< Peace.  The "race" and "ethnic" discussion started when I asked Kid
 Entropy if the guy that challenged him to a lyrical duel was caucasian.
 The reason I asked is because it is RARE to see caucasians battling each
 other lyrically (RARE, not non-existent), because overall, within the
 Wilderness of North America, there is not a DEMAND for this type of
 "therapy" amongst caucasians, as compared to other people, especially
 so-called "minorities", who, as a whole, have identity problems with
 respect to the other human families of the planet earth (perming,
 consumption of meat, make-up, blond wigs, extensions, name-brand apparel,
 automobiles, jewelry, etc.)  This is where people started to see
 "caucasian" and become upset, interested, you name
 it.  Since hip-hop CULTURALLY speaking (not industry speaking) is
 dominated by black people, I had to wonder what were the dynamics that
 caused this caucasian to want to battle, at, of all places, a "rave"?
 Kid Entropy pointed out that people who tried to be "down" but are not as
 skilled, will try to pick so-called "easy targets".
 Peace.   >>

as much as I've been following or not following this whole thing past that 
statement... I've got a couple of small points to make.

The philosophy of the 'original' man, factions of the 5% nation, Garvey, 
Elijah, you name it, were at base level for 'original' culture.  Original 
culture by definition by these sects and people were people of African 
descent... people with melanin... Its very purpose as a 
philosophy/religion/what have you was in some ways to give back what was 
stolen from Africans by America, the dutch and others.  Whether that be 
pride, spirit, or a sense of fucking self... no matter what it is... Radical 
groups, as we would call them, exist by design... because of certain 'radical 
ideas' that existed in the past at the founding of this country whether or 
not we try to bury that.  and here's a strong statement.. but... when they 
speak of democracy lending itself to hitler's rise and the genocide of the 
jews... its a fucking direct parralel in the minds of african americans... 
because democracy lended itself to america's own genocide.  These are things 
that are present in every black man and woman's mind... Things that white men 
and women won't understand... (i've heard the argument... the likelihood of a 
white person's great great grandmother being beat to death by a wooden club 
for insubordination and having to deal with that degree of separation... is 
0%)   Now to bring it back into the context of this list... The black culture 
and struggle like i've said before... is permanently ingrained not only in 
hip hop culture... but beyond... No one gets on Underground Resistance for 
having opinions that resemble that support the 'empowerment of black culture' 
  Moodyman has made some BLATANT statements about white people who produce 
(which personally in some ways I understand...)  

Black culture is still being systematically stolen, prepackaged, and sold off 
to everyone and stripped of its 'original' status.  It happened with rock n' 
roll and it will happen with hip hop.  It already has happened... if you look 
at the actual business of it.  How can a white head of a certain music 
company... come off with a straight face asking suburban black youth to 'add 
more guns and pimps' into their music because thats 'what sells.'   Blacks 
are still under fire, still at war, and still in danger whether we as whites 
want to pay attention to it or not.

What I'm getting at in a roundabout way is this... It is a fundamental 
purpose of the previously mentioned sects to preserve the integrity and 
structure of its 'history.'   African Empowerment is a reality... as is 
Hispanic Empowerment... and hold the phone here for a second... in some ways 
'Caucasian Empowerment'... Empowerment is a good thing... its making an 
organization solid.  Black organizations like the above have empowered their 
race by their own methods and means... focusing on areas that need 
empowerment... identity, equality, etcera... things that have been horribly 
deficient for a long time... the difference with 'caucasian empowerment' is 
that certain sects involved in empowering 'caucasians' focus on areas that DO 
NOT need empowerment... instead of empowering our acknowledgement of other 
cultures outside our melanin perspective... they limit themselves... turning 
aspects of white 'power' or 'empowerment' into white 'weakness'

now catch yourself... when I said the words white power or white 
empowerment... you flinched.  You felt the reactionary inside of yourself 
ready to snap... same with if I say black power.  same if I ask a question 
like "Was the mc original or caucasian?"

I admit the phrasing and the set up... might not have helped matters much... 
(fuck even i reacted with "I don't know what thats got to do with it.")  but 
knowing the backstory of 'original' and its relation in this case to hip hop 
culture... i get it.  I get Jahzid's usage of the word 'Allah'... I get 
120... I get 5%, 10%, 85% nation... clap clap for me.  Alot of people on this 
list for whatever reasons don't.  and therein, lies the problem.   Its a very 
and i hate using the word 'militant' philosophy to white people.  Militant in 
the perspective in that maybe black people are still at war in this society.. 
struggling to keep their cultural identity sacred.  and before i hear the 
"its not as bad as it seems... argument."  who knows how bad it is unless 
they're in the skin.  

someone made the point that the fact that Jahzid is involved in the rave 
scene with white people and 'perhaps' even on this list in my opinion... is 
proof positive that jahzid doesn't 'hate' white people... I don't know if 
thats even been stated... but 'racist' as we're throwing around the term... 
the threat of that word is hate.  and therefore, hatred of white people in 
some sense.

racist by definition i've heard out of many black leaders mouths is 
'uplifting the race.'  going back to our 'empowerment' discussion... Bringing 
things back in balance.  overstepping the boundaries of equality with 
empowerment... is dangerous... uplifting the race by 'killing another' is 
obviously overstepping... same with spreading "hate"

Jahzid's posting of his perspective... one of which has its place in the rave 
scene... by design... because naturally arguably... a good portion (varying 
in opinion) of 'rave music' has the root of black music as its backbone... is 
one that some of us may not 'understand'   but is it that hard to understand 
anyways from a historical perspective?  You didn't see him say "Fuck whitey," 
after all did you?  

I don't want to post anymore... I'm tired.  Fucking realize everyone's point 
of origin and perspective, respect it,  fucking hug and make up.

entro = cracker 

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On 02/11/2000 8:56 AM Jon Gotti prophesized the following:

> Now if Macintosh could fucking make a decent oporating
> system for servers maybe theyd go somewhere.
> I had to work on some OS/2 machines at my old job,
> what a pain in the ass!!!
> Worse than fucking NT


evidently you havent used the new OS X server...or have you


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my mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
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I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
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your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

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> 
> ya know if i was a little richer, i'd have every os possible. the more you
> know the better right? so if someone can find me a decent Mac for around
> 400 dollars, i'd be more than willing to learn! $400 for a g3? i know i'm
> pushing it.
> broke ass bitch
> -choppie
>


Look on eBay for a 2nd or 3rd generation PowerPC.
Buy it cheap, and upgrade to a G3 or G4.

That's what I did.  It was under $500 total.  =)

Don't get a first generation PPC (6100, 7100, 8100)
They use NuBus slots for cards and are very limited
as far as upgradibility.  Some clones may be difficult
to upgrade too...but most are ok.

Go to www.everymac.com for detailed info on every
Macintosh product ever produced.  www.xlr8yourmac.com
is also an excellent site, dealing with upgrades.


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> Now if Macintosh could fucking make a decent oporating
> system for servers maybe theyd go somewhere.
> I had to work on some OS/2 machines at my old job,
> what a pain in the ass!!!
> Worse than fucking NT
>


They do.  It's called OS X Server.  Just came out.
I haven't used it, but I've heard nothing but good
tihings about it.

By the way.  OS/2 was NOT an Apple/Mac product.
OS/2 was made by IBM for PCs.  Anything that's
an alternitive to Windows, get's -some- respect,
but yes, I agree, it pretty much sucked.

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> > Now if Macintosh could fucking make a decent oporating
> > system for servers maybe theyd go somewhere.
> > I had to work on some OS/2 machines at my old job,
> > what a pain in the ass!!!
> > Worse than fucking NT
> 
> They do.  It's called OS X Server.  Just came out.
> I haven't used it, but I've heard nothing but good
> tihings about it.

Being one of the resident Mac support people around here...

OS X Server is good. 

OS X is better. Wait till next year kiddies. You'll all be drooling over
yourself to get yur hands on OS X. 

trust me. i got to play with it recently. and it's so swanky and powerful,
you'll love it.

bom shankar!
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>	*Muppetfucker (happy hardcore - austin, tx)

>	*Tha Rumble MC (dallas, tx)



muppetfucker & rumble... looks like i need to start selling my plasma... ;-) 
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> >	*Muppetfucker (happy hardcore - austin, tx)
>
> >	*Tha Rumble MC (dallas, tx)
>
	Yeah the lineup on these two parties makes me wish I lived in columbus...
but then I remember that'd require living in columbus... =] no way!


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--- Kidentropy@aol.com wrote:
> as much as I've been following or not following this
> whole thing past that 
> statement... I've got a couple of small points to
> make.

And I, a couple of small counterpoints.
 
> The philosophy of the 'original' man, factions of
> the 5% nation, Garvey, 
> Elijah, you name it, were at base level for
> 'original' culture.  Original 
> culture by definition by these sects and people were
> people of African 
> descent... people with melanin... Its very purpose
> as a 
> philosophy/religion/what have you was in some ways
> to give back what was 
> stolen from Africans by America, the dutch and
> others.  Whether that be 
> pride, spirit, or a sense of fucking self... no
> matter what it is... Radical 

When you design a philisophy or religion for the
explicit purpose of manipulating or controlling a
group, it's foundation is inherently flawed.  How
could one truly BELEIVE in a religion and also know
that it's just a false pretense to unite a group of
people?

> groups, as we would call them, exist by design...
> because of certain 'radical 
> ideas' that existed in the past at the founding of
> this country whether or 
> not we try to bury that.  and here's a strong

but in this country, radical ideas are not government
persecuted (unless those ideas become harmful in
actions).  We are allowed to say, think, and feel
whatever we want (although democrats would like to
change that), which is more than I can say for what
certain radical groups impose on their members.

> statement.. but... when they 
> speak of democracy lending itself to hitler's rise
> and the genocide of the 
> jews... its a fucking direct parralel in the minds
> of african americans... 
> because democracy lended itself to america's own
> genocide.  These are things 
> that are present in every black man and woman's
> mind... Things that white men 
> and women won't understand... (i've heard the
> argument... the likelihood of a 
> white person's great great grandmother being beat to
> death by a wooden club 
> for insubordination and having to deal with that
> degree of separation... is 
> 0%)

So are you saying that blacks are permanantly mentally
ill?  That they are (and always will be) stuck with
the image of they're great great grandmother being
beaten to death?

>   Now to bring it back into the context of this
> list... The black culture 
> and struggle like i've said before... is permanently
> ingrained not only in 
> hip hop culture... but beyond... No one gets on

Oh come on now!  If the black culture and struggle is
about making lots of money, selling drugs, being
promiscious, and advocating voilence, then I guess hip
hop is representitive of blacks.  I know this is a
generalization...but not a big one.

It's like me saying that country is representitive of
white culture because 99.9% of it's listeners,
performers, and producers are white.  Yup.  We all
drive beat up pick-up trucks, drink lots of moonshine,
and have a gun rack.

> Underground Resistance for 
> having opinions that resemble that support the
> 'empowerment of black culture' 
>   Moodyman has made some BLATANT statements about
> white people who produce 
> (which personally in some ways I understand...)  
> 
> Black culture is still being systematically stolen,
> prepackaged, and sold off 
> to everyone and stripped of its 'original' status. 

Yeah, I mean, look how big Vanilla Ice is!

> It happened with rock n' 
> roll and it will happen with hip hop.  It already
> has happened... if you look 
> at the actual business of it. 

Why is it bad that other people want to make hip-hop? 
Rock went from being a small "radical" movement in
music to being one of the top selling genres in
America (and the world).

I think it's sad that an elitist attitude is taken
everytime new people are introduced to art that only a
few used to enjoy.

> How can a white head
> of a certain music 
> company... come off with a straight face asking
> suburban black youth to 'add 
> more guns and pimps' into their music because thats
> 'what sells.'  

It's not the white guys fault that the music with
"more guns and pimps" sells alot of rekkids!  If there
were no demand, the supply would disappear.  This is
the first time I've heard someone trying to blame
whitey for the sex and violence in hip-hop.

> Blacks 
> are still under fire, still at war, and still in
> danger whether we as whites 
> want to pay attention to it or not.

Who are they at war with?  Who are they in danger
from?  Themselves.  You've already said that they're
mentally unstable.  There's more black on black
violence than white on black violence.  There's also
more black on white violence than vice versa.  Of
course, this is acceptable as our great great
grandfathers were assholes we have to pay for it.
 
> What I'm getting at in a roundabout way is this...
> It is a fundamental 
> purpose of the previously mentioned sects to
> preserve the integrity and 
> structure of its 'history.'   African Empowerment is
> a reality... as is 
> Hispanic Empowerment... and hold the phone here for
> a second... in some ways 
> 'Caucasian Empowerment'... Empowerment is a good
> thing... its making an 
> organization solid.  Black organizations like the
> above have empowered their 
> race by their own methods and means... focusing on
> areas that need 
> empowerment... identity, equality, etcera... things
> that have been horribly 
> deficient for a long time...

Empowerment has you focus on differences instead of on
likenesses.  Some black orginizations (ahem, Nation of
Islam) promote racism as means of empowerment.  Others
promote violence.  I don't know how you can argue this
is a progressive and reformative thing.

> the difference with
> 'caucasian empowerment' is 
> that certain sects involved in empowering
> 'caucasians' focus on areas that DO 
> NOT need empowerment... instead of empowering our
> acknowledgement of other 
> cultures outside our melanin perspective... they
> limit themselves... turning 
> aspects of white 'power' or 'empowerment' into white
> 'weakness'

Yes, whites (being part of the human race) have
radical groups who are racist and violent also, but
this is true of any race.  Despite popular believe, we
weren't the Originals when it came to racism.

> now catch yourself... when I said the words white
> power or white 
> empowerment... you flinched.  You felt the
> reactionary inside of yourself 
> ready to snap... same with if I say black power. 
> same if I ask a question 
> like "Was the mc original or caucasian?"
> I admit the phrasing and the set up... might not
> have helped matters much... 
> (fuck even i reacted with "I don't know what thats
> got to do with it.")  but 
> knowing the backstory of 'original' and its relation
> in this case to hip hop 
> culture... i get it.  I get Jahzid's usage of the
> word 'Allah'... I get 
> 120... I get 5%, 10%, 85% nation... clap clap for
> me.  Alot of people on this 
> list for whatever reasons don't.  and therein, lies
> the problem.   Its a very 

Okay, I have to agree with you here.  Ignorance and
misinformation can cause frustration, fear, and anger.

> and i hate using the word 'militant' philosophy to
> white people.  Militant in 
> the perspective in that maybe black people are still
> at war in this society.. 

In the case of this example, the true Muslim religion
is founded on the belief that if you can't convert
them, then kill them.  Kind of a Spanish inquisition
of the middle east.  It's not a white perception that
Muslims are militant, it's the truth.

> struggling to keep their cultural identity sacred. 
> and before i hear the 
> "its not as bad as it seems... argument."  who knows
> how bad it is unless 
> they're in the skin.  

So how exactly are we supposed to do anything about
it?  Seriously.  If we can never understand how
horrible it is to be black in this country (your
words, not mine), the how can you expect us to give a
solution?

> someone made the point that the fact that Jahzid is
> involved in the rave 
> scene with white people and 'perhaps' even on this
> list in my opinion... is 
> proof positive that jahzid doesn't 'hate' white
> people... I don't know if 
> thats even been stated... but 'racist' as we're
> throwing around the term... 
> the threat of that word is hate.  and therefore,
> hatred of white people in 
> some sense.

It's not necessary to hate to be racist.  It's just a
matter of seeing the world in terms of black and
white.

> racist by definition i've heard out of many black
> leaders mouths is 
> 'uplifting the race.'  going back to our

Wow!  So I guess whites were justified in slavey...and
(to use your example) Hilter was justified in killing
the Jews.  After all, he was just trying to "uplift
his race."  Right?

> 'empowerment' discussion... Bringing 
> things back in balance.  overstepping the boundaries
> of equality with 
> empowerment... is dangerous... uplifting the race by
> 'killing another' is 
> obviously overstepping... same with spreading "hate"

Agreed.
 
> Jahzid's posting of his perspective... one of which
> has its place in the rave 
> scene... by design... because naturally arguably...
> a good portion (varying 
> in opinion) of 'rave music' has the root of black
> music as its backbone... is 
> one that some of us may not 'understand'   but is it
> that hard to understand 
> anyways from a historical perspective?  You didn't
> see him say "Fuck whitey," 
> after all did you?  

David Duke never says "Fuck 'dem negros" but will
anyone argue that he's not racist?

> I don't want to post anymore... I'm tired.  Fucking
> realize everyone's point 
> of origin and perspective, respect it,  fucking hug
> and make up.

I can't respect a point of view that defines people by
their race.  Everyone has the right to their opinion
and we all have the right to criticize it.

--Will

Judge yourself not by the color of your skin, but by
the merit of your accomplishments, by the strength of
your morals, and by your beliefs in the freedoms humanity.

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say hello to employee #1

jobless again.

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anybody who can put a bigger smile on my face than happy hardcore, my
birthday, a bathtub full of ice cream, and newborn puppies combined, is a
god in my eyes, and i would gladly carry his offspring. 
i can't even remember the last time i had as much fun as i did last night.  
it must have been a long time ago.  i also can't remember the last time i
broke a sweat at a party, the last time i didn't give a fuck whether or
not ppl were making fun of my dancing, the last time random ppl talked to
me just because it was appropriate after spending the past hour on the
dancefloor together, or the last time every single beat of the entire
night brought a smile to my face.  musically, i enjoyed every second,
starting with michael geiger when we walked in, to heather, to finally
mark farina.  sure, there wasn't a lot of variety (house, house, and 
house), but i don't think anybody there really cared, that's what they had
come for after all.  
and the people were GREAT!!!  EVERYBODY in that place was there to dance
and to enjoy themselves and NOTHING ELSE, and it showed.  no crackhead
e-babies melting into puddles in the corner, no smell of vick's (motor,
anybody?), no bullshit attitudes, no stupid 'more rave than you' politics,
just a bunch of house heads that had come out to shake their asses.  it
was wonderful!!  the entire night i didn't find a thing to complain about,
except maybe my lack of stamina b/c my smokerlungs wouldn't allow me to
dance for extended periods of time :/

well, there were a WHOLE bunch of things i wanted to say last night, but
i've since forgotten, so i guess i'll leave it at that.  this event WILL,
however, go down in my rave-history as being one of the best i've had the
privilege of attending. 

it's nights like these that make me remember while i still put up w/ all
the bullshit surrounding "raves" and "the scene."  i go to party after
party after party, hoping for a *moment* that will make it worthwhile, and
when i happen upon an entire *night* of such moments (like last night), i
look back on the months of worthless events and say *this* is why i
haven't stopped yet.

in conclusion, mark farina is god, my muscles are sore, and
house music will take over the world.
-doris


ps:  thanks chris and becca for the "fuckin rave bitch" bracelet, i think
it RAWKS and i will wear it with pride.  =)


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>it's nights like these that make me remember while i still put up w/ all
>the bullshit surrounding "raves" and "the scene."  i go to party after
>party after party, hoping for a *moment* that will make it worthwhile, and
>when i happen upon an entire *night* of such moments (like last night), i
>look back on the months of worthless events and say *this* is why i
>haven't stopped yet.


This is exactly how I felt after No Place Like Home.  I was just standing
in my kitchen earlier thinking about how bitter and ornery I've become
towards the scene in the last 2 or 3 years...and then I went to NPLH...got
my ass kicked by Delta 9...danced like I had never danced before...broke a
sweat for the first time since god knows when...and didn't give a FUCK what
people thought of me or my speaker fucking.  It was awesome...and it's why
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[>in conclusion, mark farina is god, my muscles are sore, and
[>house music will take over the world.
[>-doris

i couldn't have said it better myself.

i luff mark.
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http://www.wackycrackheads.com

make sure you click on the center link..."freshcrack"

bom shankar!
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hahah i love mark farina....gonna go see him indy tonight.  =)  woohoo.
anyone on da list up for da drive to naptown better come find
meeeeee...ill be the girlie passin out flyers for No Foolin'...

hahah and yeah im getting glammed out...all fear. heheh.

yus*
lauryn

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 I;ll be there tonight..but not for very long. I have things
 to do early tomorrow. I'll definately be there for Mark
 Farina's set. Anyone know what time he goes on? I live in
 indy so the drive doesn't matter. Just curious.

    *Shandi*


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On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, lauryn g. wrote:

> 
> hahah i love mark farina....gonna go see him indy tonight.  =)  woohoo.
> anyone on da list up for da drive to naptown better come find
> meeeeee...ill be the girlie passin out flyers for No Foolin'...
> 
> hahah and yeah im getting glammed out...all fear. heheh.
> 
> yus*
> lauryn
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OH NO!!

ARNO FIRED CHAD!!

Matt

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We'll be expecting you in Michigan by the end of the week... that is
all.

one love,
greg

p.s. I don't mean to make light of your situation ;)  Getting
poo-canned really sux

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>
>great!  another slow-ass mix of played out anthems so that anabolic frolic
>can charge more than he's worth for dj bookings!
>
>you should be more concerned about HARDCORE THURSDAY on feb 17, when
>acclaim releases the long awaited video game "ECW:  THE HARDCORE 
>REVOLUTION" !!

=)  hahahahah... thats funny.  *sigh*, ecw... the only wrestling where 
tables are standard tools of the trade.  and if it makes you feelbetter i 
only have the 1st ed. of the hppy2b series.  and it is kinda slow.  that 
bastard.

peace-
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"Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad."  (unattributed)

Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.
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i think i am officially now addicted to raving.  ;-)

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 Oh ye of little faith, fear not, the party is still on.  We recently
secured a legal venue and we've almost sold out all the tickets.  I spoke
with Stevie's booking agent last night and he said that Stevie and Luke
have a little something special up their sleeves, or should I say asses.  I
can't say what it is but you won't want to miss it.  See ya on the 4th.

  KKKK

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>It's not really going to go down.... DAMN IT! I plan the whole month
>around this!!! Saved all those wad session for this one night, I'm about
>to explode! AHH!!
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ok, you're a weiner

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: On Wed, 9 Feb 2000, Bekka wrote:
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due to the overwhelming blandness of mw-raves spearheaded
by joe "lemme see how much worthless bandwidth i can
waste while i try and figure out my filter" and kevin "cock
suckers" robbins, i have decided to briefly escape the matrix
to inject a li'l soul back into the list...

first off true porn starz check...http://pixee.hypermart.net/....
dats my roomie, nicci...now tell me she doesn't know how
to play...

my other roomie, opiez/stormy can still be seen at http://www.
stargazerlily.com...

my boy jarred is doin his party Total Eclipse out in lexington, 
kentucky this summer...check out the new Entice productions 
web site http://www.entice.nu/...the pre-party line up is as follows:
Charles Cromer (Iconoclast Productions)  (Lexington)  tagging 
with (not yet confirm on Simpleton), Simpleton  (Dallas, Tx.)
DJ Tsar  (Entice Productions)  (Lexington/Russia), RICA  (Detroit)  
<~~~High NRG Trance, Julian Ross (Strictly Live, Iconoclast) 
(Lexington) and maybe one other DJ 

should be hookin up w/ julie jewels for a li'l v.i.p. red zone
excitement tonight...da man known as KGB shall be infiltratin
the space with his killer ruskie tekhouse skillz...

Lords of Acid is gracing the heart of Ohio, tomorrow unfortunately
da man is still keepin me down, so i dunno if i can make an outtin
...anybody with any quick money schemes e-mail me...

...oops papa john's is here...til then keep it real & keep it underground!



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For those of you that haven't heard it...I just saw an ad on NBC for their
Saturday night "thrillogy" bull...and it was playing in the background.

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In a message dated 2/11/00 12:21:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
chad@hyperreal.org writes:

<< say hello to employee #1
 
 jobless again.
 
 chad >>

ahhh, i see they're out to get you now too!

i feel ya man. you know i do....

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> ...oops papa john's is here...til then keep it real
> & keep it underground!

Wanna try keeping Nicci and I's sight underground...? 
There were people on here we didnt want to see it, you
know.. Thats why we didnt give out the address :)
 
-Opiey n Nicci
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I've been sitting here just lurking on this list and I figured that 
it's about time for a drama buster. We need an old fashion top whatever list.

Lets see if everyone can list their top 10 house, techno, jungle, 
and trance D.J.'s.  List them in seperate lists.  All house together, all techno together...etc. 

ALSO

List your top 5 most UNDERRATED D.J.'s in each style also. 

That should keep everyone busy for a little while :)




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 02:33:10 2000
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we will be broadcasting LIVE from PSYCHOSIS in
pittsburgh, pa tonight with HALLUCINOGEN and
SHAPESHIFTERS!!

check out http://chemlab.org for more info.

show starts in about 45mins [10pm est]

-steve ;>

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Top 3 drum and bass dj's(in no order):

Dieselboy,Kaoss,Daniel/Sileni...(coin toss between these 2)

Top happy hardcore dj's(in no order):
Cloudskipper,Spree,Bezerker

Most underrated dj's:

Dj Musk
Dj Glemenex
Dj Handsome Dan
Dj Ruthless Ruth
Dj Pitchshift pirate
Dj Wilson P

how come no one books these guys?

Top ten Jelly Belly flavours(I have a few promos and some of them are on 
dubplate)(in no specific order):

Blackbelt jones Blackberry flavour

Beatdown flavour(tastes like Blood and teeth)

yardsale flavour

hmm,what else....

those are my top tens for now I guess...

p.s. I almost forgot the best one!

Best Ups delivery people in my neighnorhood:

Kent

Graham

Byron

(Does anyone else think top tens are overrated?)









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>I've been sitting here just lurking on this list and I figured that
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>list.
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but chad i thought ARNO WAS YOUR BOSS?!?  how did this come to pass?!  ARNO 
WE WANT ANSWERS SIR@#$#@$@#%#$^$#@

At 12:21 PM 2/11/00 -0800, you wrote:
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 03:35:58 2000
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yeah but WHERE'S THE HARDCORE?!

DICK!


>Lets see if everyone can list their top 10 house, techno, jungle,
>and trance D.J.'s.  List them in seperate lists.  All house together, all 
>techno together...etc.



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top ten REASONS YOU SUCK, DICK:

10)  you suck
   9)  you suck
   8)  you suck
   7)  you suck
   6)  you suck
   5)  potatoes
   4)  you suck
   3)  you suck
   2)  you suck
   1)  you suck!

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top ten reasons STEVIE T IS GAY:

10)  dumb chink
   9)  what the fuck
   8)  he snores
   7)  what the fuck!
   6)  dude you are like 30
   5)  very gay
   4)  like shit, what the fuck YO
   3)  big thick glasses
   2)  welfare
   1)  dumb chink!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 04:36:40 2000
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> due to the overwhelming blandness of mw-raves spearheaded
> by joe "lemme see how much worthless bandwidth i can
> waste while i try and figure out my filter"


Oh sure...a handful of messages in the middle of the night
each containing only a few words.  That's -sooooooooo- much
bandwidth !  >=/

    Joe

Stevie T - I won't call you gay.  It would be insulting to
to any gay people I know.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 04:58:31 2000
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Here are my limited lists.....
House: 
1. Derrick Carter - Chicago
2. Terry Mullan - California
3. Donald Glaude - Seattle
4. Lil' Louie Vega - NYC
5. Onionz - NYC
6. Mark Farina - San Francisco
7. King Britt - Philly
8. Halo - Chicago
9. Scott Henry - DC
10. Doc Martin - LA

Underrated House:
1. Eastcoast Boogiemen - Richmond
2. Samm-E - Nashville
3. RC Project - Atlanta
4. Trevor Lamont - Lexington
5. D.J. True - Kansas City
6. Tigger - Cleveland

Techno:
1. Richie Hawtin - Detroit/ Windsor
2. Claude Young - Detroit
3. T-1000 - Detroit
4. Ken Iishi - Japan
5. Dave Clarke - ? somewhere overseas
6. Kenny Larkin - Detroit
7. D.J. Rush - Chicago
8. Adam X - Brooklyn
9. Dylan Drazen - NYC
10. Angel Alanis - Chicago ...he's kinda borderline house/techno

Underrated Techno:
1. Bryan Zentz aka Barada - Virginia
2. Dan Deliverence - Kansas City
3. Dean Coleman - Atlanta
4. Matt Bandy - Lexington 

Jungle:
1. Andy C - UK 
2. Ed Rush - UK 
3. Dieselboy - Philly
4. Sniper - Toronto
5. Phantom 45 - Chicago
6. Dara - NYC
7. AK1200 - Orlando
8. Aphrodite - UK
9. J. Majik - UK
10. Method One - San Francisco ?

Underrated Jungle:
1. Troll - Cincinnati
2. Lary Breaks - Nashville
3. Hazeus - Atlanta

Trance, I don't know as well so I can only list 2 underrated D.J.'s.
1. Ashley Powers - Nashville
2. Tsar - Lexington

I don't know hardcore at all so I'm not listing any.

There you go.... :)


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According to DanceSafe, the white clover "e" pills
contain DXM (commonly found in Robotussin).  This
has been posted a couple of times to the list already.

What I want to know is has anyone on this list
actually taken one of these pills ?

The pill is "plus" (+) shaped with an outward
embossed clover on both sides.  It is white in
color with off-white speckles.

A friend of mine has one.  I told him about
the DXM, but he says his dealer told him it
was a different batch that were bad (yeah,
likely story).

He is planning on taking it tomorrow night.
I'm trying to persuade him not to.

Also...I know there are testing kits available.
Does anyone in the Milwaukee-Madison area have
one ?  Or is there some place you can get one
without having to wait for it to be shipped ?

Last summer, there were green triangles which
were also supposedly DXM.  Myself & some friends
each took one one (before we knew about it) and
All of us agreed that it felt like real E.

So although I respect DanceSafe for what they
are doing, and it's more than likely they are
correct about the content of the clovers, I'd
like to hear a first hand report from someone
or have my friend test it himself.

A quick reply would be appreciated.

Thanks,
        Joe

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Top twelve reasons why this list sucks:

12 - quantifiers like 'epic', 'progressive', and 'journey' in front of the
word trance

11 - not enough n0rp

10 - StevieT w/ no mail filters

9 - happy hardcore

8 - not enough n0rp

7 - newbie boobies

6 - silly discussions about who's a 'real' person, what's a 'real'
religion, how 'real' my butt crack really is...define real

5 - recent invasion of candyraver, know-nothing, crackhead, post-happy
dumbasses

4 - 284 messages in one day, and not a single fucking one worth reading
(57 channels and nothing on...)

3 - Ohio

2 - pretenders to the "Queen of Net-Rave" throne

AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON WHY THIS LIST SUX....

<<<< drum roll please >>>>

1 - your mom

sorry, I couldn't think of a better one

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hey u...email me damn it!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 05:48:28 2000
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> A friend of mine has one.  I told him about
> the DXM, but he says his dealer told him it
> was a different batch that were bad (yeah,
> likely story).
>
> He is planning on taking it tomorrow night.
> I'm trying to persuade him not to.

I couldn't imagine *why* he wouldn't want to... (note: sarcasm)


> Also...I know there are testing kits available.
> Does anyone in the Milwaukee-Madison area have
> one ?  Or is there some place you can get one without

> having to wait for it to be shipped ?

I know this is probably useless information, but a testing kit only
consists of a little dropper of acid (no, not that kind crackhead).
Sulphuric, hydrochloric, I'm not sure.  The directions are simple: take
a little shaving of the pill, add testing liquid, watch it turn pretty
colors.

If someone out there has a testing kit, perhaps they'd be kind enough to
post a little info:  what kind of acid, and what colors the various
substances turn.  Then you wouldn't have to shell out 10 bucks for what
is essentially a 30 cent product in a pretty package.


> Last summer, there were green triangles which
> were also supposedly DXM.  Myself & some friends
> each took one one (before we knew about it) and
> All of us agreed that it felt like real E.

The effects of mindset in action.  Your reality (christ, I can't believe
I'm getting into this - what a fucking cliche) is the one you create.
You thought you were taking e.  You ingested something that made your
mind and body get a little fuzzy.  YOU, not the drug, filled in
everything in between.  (read: I'M ROLLING SOOOO HARD!!!!)

Also, weren't those triangles last summer supposed to be E and dxm mixed
together?  In my experience, a lot of people don't trip DXM the first
time they try it.  Either that, or things go a little haywire with their
perception of what is happening and some wierd experience takes place.
Perhaps you felt the E in it and the DXM passed out of your system with
little effect.


> So although I respect DanceSafe for what they
> are doing, and it's more than likely they are
> correct about the content of the clovers, I'd
> like to hear a first hand report from someone
> or have my friend test it himself.

The information does not flow:  LEGALIZE IT BITCH!!!!  Yet another
reason why I try and keep away from the crack these days....

one love,
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Reply-To: "Techno Heaven Len" <LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com>

I know that DanceSafe can ship you a test kit ... and that they now will
test any pill sent to the labs FREE - but neither will help you by tomorrow.

Though I can add my backing to your advice to your friend ... don't take it!
Fool!

Better yet ... don't take it AND send it in to DanceSafe for the FREE lab
test!  Then when the results are posted you can see who is right!

:)

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dynamic Groove <events@dynamicgroove.com>
To: mw <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 11:36 PM
Subject: [mw] DXM/white clovers


>
> According to DanceSafe, the white clover "e" pills
> contain DXM (commonly found in Robotussin).  This
> has been posted a couple of times to the list already.
>
> What I want to know is has anyone on this list
> actually taken one of these pills ?
>
> The pill is "plus" (+) shaped with an outward
> embossed clover on both sides.  It is white in
> color with off-white speckles.
>
> A friend of mine has one.  I told him about
> the DXM, but he says his dealer told him it
> was a different batch that were bad (yeah,
> likely story).
>
> He is planning on taking it tomorrow night.
> I'm trying to persuade him not to.
>
> Also...I know there are testing kits available.
> Does anyone in the Milwaukee-Madison area have
> one ?  Or is there some place you can get one
> without having to wait for it to be shipped ?
>
> Last summer, there were green triangles which
> were also supposedly DXM.  Myself & some friends
> each took one one (before we knew about it) and
> All of us agreed that it felt like real E.
>
> So although I respect DanceSafe for what they
> are doing, and it's more than likely they are
> correct about the content of the clovers, I'd
> like to hear a first hand report from someone
> or have my friend test it himself.
>
> A quick reply would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>         Joe
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 06:27:10 2000
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Subject: Re: [mw] DXM/white clovers
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OK ... since you asked ... this is the page at DanceSafe that explains the
colors that the test can produce:

http://www.dancesafe.org/ekits.html

The chemical is "Marquis reagent"

Orange = speed
yellow & green = 2CB

DXM smokes at first then turns black (after 10 seconds)
Ecstasy starts changing purple/black right away (1 second)

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----- Original Message -----
From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
> I know this is probably useless information, but a testing kit only
> consists of a little dropper of acid (no, not that kind crackhead).
> Sulphuric, hydrochloric, I'm not sure.  The directions are simple: take
> a little shaving of the pill, add testing liquid, watch it turn pretty
> colors.
>
> If someone out there has a testing kit, perhaps they'd be kind enough to
> post a little info:  what kind of acid, and what colors the various
> substances turn.  Then you wouldn't have to shell out 10 bucks for what
> is essentially a 30 cent product in a pretty package.



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 08:27:33 2000
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Marquis reagent:
90% sulphuric acid
10% formaldehyde (37%)

The EZ-Test kits are a little different.
90% sulphuric acid
5% formaldehyde (37%)
5% methanol

Shouldn't be a problem if you've got a lab.  Too bad the average human
being will have a tough time getting their hot little hands on
formaldehyde.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 11:00:22 2000
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>Ahhh yes!
>
>The DiscoLiciousNess is about to invade your senses!

>B U M P A S A U R U S
>        F L E x X x
>
>Bumpasaurus FlexXx will provide an alternate outlet
>for the Geriatric Ravers, those 21+

Or those fake Geriatric IDs!!!


Awww, yeah!  I knew my brother's ID
would come in handy!!!  OFF THA' HOOK!



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funkroyale@aol.com wrote:


>    FRIDAY MARCH 10TH MUZIQUE BOUTIQUE PRESENTS


Isn't there another party in Indy
on that date???

Yeah, I saw the flyer!  Like,
fuckin' Josh Holmes is the
headliner! Whatevah!

>    FOOLS GOLD with COLETTE/GENIUS INSANITY/CHICAGO SLATER HOGAN/GENIUS 
>INSANITY/INDY CHOCOLATE THE FREAKY AFRONAUT/H.O.B./INDY



Awwww....  Shit yeah!!!

Add Shiva to that fuckin' list and
I'm fuckin' there, yo!  That shit's
OFF THA' HOOK!!!


>    call 317.592.9536


Am I the ONLY one who noticed that
Musique Boutique and HofB's # are
almost IDENTICAL!!!!???  How's THAT
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funkroyale@aol.com wrote:


>    FRIDAY MARCH 10TH MUZIQUE BOUTIQUE PRESENTS


Isn't there another party in Indy
on that date???

Yeah, I saw the flyer!  Like,
fuckin' Josh Holmes is the
headliner! Whatevah!

>    FOOLS GOLD with COLETTE/GENIUS INSANITY/CHICAGO SLATER HOGAN/GENIUS 
>INSANITY/INDY CHOCOLATE THE FREAKY AFRONAUT/H.O.B./INDY



Awwww....  Shit yeah!!!

Add Shiva to that fuckin' list and
I'm fuckin' there, yo!  That shit's
OFF THA' HOOK!!!


>    call 317.592.9536


Am I the ONLY one who noticed that
Musique Boutique and HofB's # are
almost IDENTICAL!!!!???  How's THAT
shit happen, yo??!!??



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 12:25:58 2000
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I have to agree about Brian Zentz.   He's VERY talented but he never plays
out ever... Ehhh....
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>Here are my limited lists.....
>House:
>1. Derrick Carter - Chicago
>2. Terry Mullan - California
>3. Donald Glaude - Seattle
>4. Lil' Louie Vega - NYC
>5. Onionz - NYC
>6. Mark Farina - San Francisco
>7. King Britt - Philly
>8. Halo - Chicago
>9. Scott Henry - DC
>10. Doc Martin - LA
>
>Underrated House:
>1. Eastcoast Boogiemen - Richmond
>2. Samm-E - Nashville
>3. RC Project - Atlanta
>4. Trevor Lamont - Lexington
>5. D.J. True - Kansas City
>6. Tigger - Cleveland
>
>Techno:
>1. Richie Hawtin - Detroit/ Windsor
>2. Claude Young - Detroit
>3. T-1000 - Detroit
>4. Ken Iishi - Japan
>5. Dave Clarke - ? somewhere overseas
>6. Kenny Larkin - Detroit
>7. D.J. Rush - Chicago
>8. Adam X - Brooklyn
>9. Dylan Drazen - NYC
>10. Angel Alanis - Chicago ...he's kinda borderline house/techno
>
>Underrated Techno:
>1. Bryan Zentz aka Barada - Virginia
>2. Dan Deliverence - Kansas City
>3. Dean Coleman - Atlanta
>4. Matt Bandy - Lexington
>
>Jungle:
>1. Andy C - UK
>2. Ed Rush - UK
>3. Dieselboy - Philly
>4. Sniper - Toronto
>5. Phantom 45 - Chicago
>6. Dara - NYC
>7. AK1200 - Orlando
>8. Aphrodite - UK
>9. J. Majik - UK
>10. Method One - San Francisco ?
>
>Underrated Jungle:
>1. Troll - Cincinnati
>2. Lary Breaks - Nashville
>3. Hazeus - Atlanta
>
>Trance, I don't know as well so I can only list 2 underrated D.J.'s.
>1. Ashley Powers - Nashville
>2. Tsar - Lexington
>
>I don't know hardcore at all so I'm not listing any.
>
>There you go.... :)
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 13:58:20 2000
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In a message dated 2/12/00 12:26:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, djtoki@primary.net 
writes:

> I have to agree about Brian Zentz.   He's VERY talented but he never plays
>  out ever... Ehhh....

The 411 on Bryan was that he was sick of the promoter
bullshit -  not having someone pick him up on time, 
not having ahotel for him, not paying him beacuse
the promoter didn't have his shit together and the
party got busted, etc..  

He'll still play out, but only irregularly and usually
for friends.  Also, I heard that he's focusing on his
graphic design or something like that (tho' I could
be thinking of some OTHER underatted techno DJ/
producer).


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 17:20:57 2000
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If anyone's going to 2.1200 in Louisville tonight, I'll be there with
green hair (as usual), wearing a grey Boxfresh shirt and black pants
with reflective stripes on them. I should also have a pair of glowstix
with me, if that helps.

Hope to see some of you there, I'm looking forward to it.

Have a great weekend everyone,
-Ben . elroy

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DiscoHotLine@aol.com wrote:

> Ahhh yes!
>
> The DiscoLiciousNess is about to invade your senses!
>
> The DiscoDisciples d'Amour
> and Organized Chaos are
> proud to bring you
>
> B U M P A S A U R U S
>        F L E x X x
>
> Bumpasaurus FlexXx will provide an alternate outlet
> for the Geriatric Ravers, those 21+ who have nothing
> to do on a Thursday night, yet still has that techno/
> house/D&B beat track going full throttle in your ears!

So "geriatric" is now 21+?  I thought it was 25.  I guess
given that the crowd has gotten so much younger lately
it could be 21.  When I'm at a party these days I feel like
I'm at a high school prom with a lot of drugs.



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What makes this any differnet from any other lil raver cat?
heh
ravethefuckoncuzimravingtonightwoOhOOooyiPpPpiE




In a message dated Sat, 12 Feb 2000 12:21:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ben Mautner <weasel3@dot-net.net> writes:

> If anyone's going to 2.1200 in Louisville tonight, I'll be there with
> green hair (as usual), wearing a grey Boxfresh shirt and black pants
> with reflective stripes on them. I should also have a pair of glowstix
> with me, if that helps.
> 
> Hope to see some of you there, I'm looking forward to it.
> 
> Have a great weekend everyone,
> -Ben . elroy
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The promoters for Menage a Trois, tonight in Madison,
have lost their original venue.  However, a new venue
has been located - THE EVENT IS STILL HAPPENING.  =)

However, the new venue is smaller than the original
venue and may have a limited capacity.  This does not
mean that you should not attend - it just means that if
you are traveling from far away, that you should consider
arriving early so that you can guarantee entery.

To the best of my knowledge, all of the headlining DJs
will still be appearing as well as most of the smaller
DJs (there was supposed to be 2 rooms, but now there is
only one).  These DJs include:

Headliners:

Jazzy Jeff (yes, the original from Philly)
OS/2 (wicked trance from Toronto)
Cyberjive (a Midwest favorite, now in New Orleans - House)
Czech (Breaks/Trip Hop - Vancouver)
N2O (Trance - Tampa, FL)

Plus locals:

Adeptus
Ryan Williams
D-On
Miss Hollie
Jessie Collins

and more...

Lighting will still be provided
by Light Fantastik, although on
a slightly smaller scale (but still intense !
Due only to the size of the new venue).

Sound by Sandman. featuring their all
new JBL/Mcally sound system.

And of course, all the beautiful decorations
you come to expect @ Madison events from Astrologix.

The smaller venue should not make the party any
less exciting.  If anything, it should intensify
the vibe.  Fewer people will be sitting down, and
the people there will be the people who came to
have a good time rather than just lounge around.

So, once again - the party is ON, but arrive early.

608.283.3398
608.258.7551

www.eqentertainment.com

----------------------------

I will be leaving for Madison to
set up the lightshow at noon today
so please do not reply to this message,
as I will be unable to respond.

See you tonight...and wherever you
go, have a safe and fun time.

Happy Valentines Day ! =)

    Joe

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Subject: Everything Matters


The Power of Your Actions

One day, when I was a freshman in high school, I saw a kid from my
class was walking home from school. His name was Kyle. It looked like he was 
carrying all of his books. I thought to myself, "Why would anyone bring home 
all his books on a Friday? He must really be a nerd." I had quite a weekend 
planned (parties and a football game with my friend tomorrow afternoon), so 
I shrugged my shoulders and went on. As I was walking, I saw a bunch of kids 
running toward him. They ran at him, knocking all his books out of his arms 
and tripping him so he landed in the dirt. His glasses went flying, and I 
saw them land in the grass about ten feet from him. He looked up and I saw 
this terrible sadness in his eyes. My heart went out to him. So, I jogged 
over to him and as he crawled around looking for his glasses, and I saw a 
tear in his eye. As I handed him his glasses, I said, "Those guys are jerks. 
They really should get lives." He looked at me and said, "Hey thanks!" There 
was a big smile on his face. It was one of those smiles that showed real 
gratitude. I helped him pick up his books, and asked him where he lived. As 
it turned out, he lived near me, so I asked him why I had never seen him 
before.

He said he had gone to private school before now.  I would have never
hung out with a private school kid before. We talked all the way home,
and I carried his books. He turned out to be a pretty cool kid. I
asked him if he wanted to play football on Saturday with me and my friends. 
He said yes. We hung all weekend and the more I got to know Kyle, the more I 
liked him. And my friends thought the same of him. Monday morning came, and 
there was Kyle with the huge stack of books again. I stopped him and said, 
"Damn boy, you are gonna really build some serious muscles with this pile of 
books everyday!" He just laughed and handed me half the books.

Over the next four years, Kyle and I became best friends. When we were
seniors, began to think about college. Kyle decided on Georgetown,
and I was going to Duke.  knew that we would always be friends, that the 
miles would never be a problem. He was going to be a doctor, and I was going 
for business on a football scholarship. Kyle was valedictorian of our class. 
I teased him all the time about being a nerd. He had to prepare a speech for 
graduation. I was so glad it wasn't me having to get up there and speak. 
Graduation day, I saw Kyle. He looked great. He was one of those guys that 
really found himself during high school. He filled out and actually looked 
good in glasses. He had more dates than me and all the girls loved him!  
Boy, sometimes I was jealous. Today was one of those days. I could see that 
he was nervous about his speech. So, I smacked him on the back and said, 
"Hey, big guy, you'll be great!" He looked at me with one of those looks 
(the really grateful one) and smiled. "Thanks," he said. As he started his 
speech, he cleared his throat, and began.

"Graduation is a time to thank those who helped you make it through
those tough years. Your parents, your teachers, your siblings, maybe a
coach... but mostly your friends. I am here to tell all of you that being a 
friend to someone is the best gift you can give them. I am going to tell you 
a story." I just looked at my friend with disbelief as he told the story of 
the first day we met. He had planned to kill himself over the weekend. He 
talked of how he had cleaned out his locker so his Mom wouldn't have to do 
it later and was carrying his stuff home. He looked hard at me and gave me a 
little smile. "Thankfully, I was saved. My friend saved me from doing the 
unspeakable." I heard the gasp go through the crowd as this
handsome, popular boy told us all about his weakest moment. I saw his
Mom and dad looking at me and smiling  that same grateful smile.

Not until that moment did I realize it's depth. Never underestimate
the power of your actions. With one small gesture you can change a
person's life. For better or for worse. God puts us all in each other's 
lives to impact one another in some way. Look for God in others.

You now have two choices, you can:  1) Pass this on to your friends;? or 2) 
Delete it and act like it didn't touch your heart.
As you can see, I took choice number 1.
"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have
trouble remembering how to fly."
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shit damn holy fuck...mark farina rocked mah sox.  ohmahgawd. 

okay so i danced til i about fell over.  

i got there around ummmm 12:30ish...passed out flyers. went to the bar.
and then started dancin. dj heather was on and she was the start of the
torture inflicted on my poor lil legs last night.  she played some nice
pumpin house.  that girl rawkt.  then came MARK FARINA.  damn. he did it
again to me.  every time i hear him spin he never disappoints.  loved the
track selection.  translucent did some trumpet over the top...very nice.

venue:  ive been to it before so i knew it was gonna be good.  big nice
spacious dancefloor...and a BAR...ahhhjeah (gadda luv dat).  it was a wee
bit hot but damn when you got that many kiddos dancin like crazy, its a
given that its gonna be that hot.  the only thing i didnt like: $3 for
water...so i just went to the bar instead. heheh same price for a gin and
tonic. hahah.  (okay so maybe it isnt as GOOD for you but eh...it does
taste good.)  

overall:  the party was good.  the kids were friendly.  the music was
fantastic.  danced my ass off.  props to jason and slater for pullin off
what would have to be one of my favorite indy parties.  =) haven't had
that much fun AND heard that good of music there in a while. 

tonight: see some of you guys in louisville.  i will be one of many in the
fuck trance shirts.  heheh. 

peeeeeeeeSh
lauryn g.

lemmeseeyagetdown.

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i'll be the guy wearing the big pants!

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In a message dated 2/12/2000 2:23:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< i'll be the guy wearing the big pants!
  >>

I'll be the guy giving everyone Plury kisses on the cheek and handing out 
candy necklaces and glowstix dipped in Vicks....

whooo hooo
shawne

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In a message dated 2/12/00 5:28:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, api@relaymail.net 
writes:

> When I'm at a party these days I feel like
>  I'm at a high school prom with a lot of drugs.

There WERE alot a drugs at my high school prom!!!

-Chocolate
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In a message dated 2/12/00 8:58:37 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
HouseBabylon@aol.com writes:

> The 411 on Bryan was that he was sick of the promoter
>  bullshit -  not having someone pick him up on time, 
>  not having ahotel for him, not paying him beacuse
>  the promoter didn't have his shit together and the
>  party got busted, etc..  
>  
>  He'll still play out, but only irregularly and usually
>  for friends.  Also, I heard that he's focusing on his
>  graphic design or something like that (tho' I could
>  be thinking of some OTHER underatted techno DJ/
>  producer).

nope you got the right guy Chocolate.  Bryan planned on focusing on graphic 
design, but actually his recent Jericho and Primate releases took off so well 
that he's been in the studio most of the time.  We were going to have him as 
the mystery DJ for Shiva's b-day party 4/14/00 - indy.  but that conflicted 
with the INTEC world tour (dARN!).   so that means whoever picks up the intec 
tour can probably get Bryan Zentz.

also, as far as playing live... imagine having to haul: an mpc2000, nord 
lead, TR909, Waldorf Microwave XT, and another massive ensoniq keyboard.  Ok, 
after doing all of that... you show up at the venue and *Ooops the promoter 
forgot to rent you a mixer, or *Ooops the promoter had to cut your time slot 
down to 45 minutes, or *Ooops the party got shutdown before you even arrived. 
   now, assuming you actually get to play.. *Ooops the soundguy wired the 
stage entirely wrong and all of your gear just crashed because of it.   
Fortunately you had room in your flight cases for a surge protector because 
if you hadn't of brought one, do you think the promoter would have ?   
mmmmNooo.
    and so goes a day in the life of Exceptional LIVE PA artists. i beleive 
these are the same reasons Steve Stoll quit doing live p.a.'s all together.

it's really sad that promoters with their heads up their asses and the money 
to bring in great talent... end up screwing that talent over so that the 
People that REALLY respect them and will TREAT THEM RIGHT cannot use their 
services in the future.

grrr
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In a message dated 2/12/00 9:25:24 PM !!!First Boot!!!, AzureRecs@aol.com 
writes:

> also, as far as playing live... imagine having to haul: an mpc2000, nord 
>  lead, TR909, Waldorf Microwave XT, and another massive ensoniq keyboard.  
Ok,
>  
>  after doing all of that... you show up at the venue and *Ooops the 
promoter 
>  forgot to rent you a mixer, or *Ooops the promoter had to cut your time 
slot 
> 
>  down to 45 minutes, or *Ooops the party got shutdown before you even 
arrived.
>  
>     now, assuming you actually get to play.. *Ooops the soundguy wired the 
>  stage entirely wrong and all of your gear just crashed because of it.   
>  Fortunately you had room in your flight cases for a surge protector 
because 
>  if you hadn't of brought one, do you think the promoter would have ?  

That all sucks!  

And those Ensoniq boards ARE fucking heavy as all to be damned!!!!
But they ROCK!!!

Soon as I get my ASR sampler...

ooohhh.. shit is ON!

-Chocolate
House of Babylon Broductions of Indpls
"Music for the 21st Century!"
317 413 6153 (office)
317 592 9236 (vm)

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On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote:

a lot, cause I actually know him! =P~ nyeah nyeah nyeah

dude, I'm totally going all out tonite baybee... bring on the crack!


> What makes this any differnet from any other lil raver cat?
> heh
> ravethefuckoncuzimravingtonightwoOhOOooyiPpPpiE
> 
> > If anyone's going to 2.1200 in Louisville tonight, I'll be there with
> > green hair (as usual), wearing a grey Boxfresh shirt and black pants
> > with reflective stripes on them. I should also have a pair of glowstix
> > with me, if that helps.
> > 

-Becky =)

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It would be frickin awesome if it was the weekend of the 12th cause my bday 
is that monday...so i would have one more excuse to be in my birthday 
suit..hehehe


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In a message dated 2/12/0 4:36:37 AM, joe wrote:

<<Oh sure...a handful of messages in the middle of the night
each containing only a few words.  That's -sooooooooo- much
bandwidth !  >=/>>

all that time & bandwidth, yet you still didn't manage to 
filter me?

too bad, joe.  i used to respect you.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 12 23:44:59 2000
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is there ANYthing going on around the cities tonight besides love?


a lil raver who's stumbled onto a predicament that has left her cashless 
would like to do SOMEthing tonight.


parties.. anything.. anyone??

<biting her fingernails>

thank ya much
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they probably wont let you in if they find you with glowsticks :P

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
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fon: (513) 861-6760
new website: http://zap.to/djoracle

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ben Mautner <weasel3@dot-net.net>
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> If anyone's going to 2.1200 in Louisville tonight, I'll be there with
> green hair (as usual), wearing a grey Boxfresh shirt and black pants
> with reflective stripes on them. I should also have a pair of glowstix
> with me, if that helps.
> 
> Hope to see some of you there, I'm looking forward to it.
> 
> Have a great weekend everyone,
> -Ben . elroy
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heh, it's almost like bein in a real band!! good thing electronic drums fit
in that little box!
j

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: In a message dated 2/12/00 9:25:24 PM !!!First Boot!!!, AzureRecs@aol.com
: writes:
:
: > also, as far as playing live... imagine having to haul: an mpc2000, nord
: >  lead, TR909, Waldorf Microwave XT, and another massive ensoniq
keyboard.
: Ok,
: >
: >  after doing all of that... you show up at the venue and *Ooops the
: promoter
: >  forgot to rent you a mixer, or *Ooops the promoter had to cut your time
: slot
: >
: >  down to 45 minutes, or *Ooops the party got shutdown before you even
: arrived.
: >
: >     now, assuming you actually get to play.. *Ooops the soundguy wired
the
: >  stage entirely wrong and all of your gear just crashed because of it.
: >  Fortunately you had room in your flight cases for a surge protector
: because
: >  if you hadn't of brought one, do you think the promoter would have ?
:
: That all sucks!
:
: And those Ensoniq boards ARE fucking heavy as all to be damned!!!!
: But they ROCK!!!
:
: Soon as I get my ASR sampler...
:
: ooohhh.. shit is ON!
:
: -Chocolate
: House of Babylon Broductions of Indpls
: "Music for the 21st Century!"
: 317 413 6153 (office)
: 317 592 9236 (vm)
:
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 13 00:57:50 2000
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this is for you serious recording types...like the subject says...the mixer
is in good condition, rarely used...is just taking up space...seller is
asking $1500 OBO and is looking to sell asap...contact me privately for more
information

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 13 00:58:39 2000
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I'm headin to NYC next weekend for Heaven (Funk, Micro, J-Smooth, etc.) and I 
have an extra seat if anyone's interested in goin. I live on tha east burbs 
of Cleveland, so tryin to find people around here somewhere. Hit me up if ya 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 13 01:52:38 2000
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i finally got off my sorry butt and got to the latest in the floorplan
series...for those who werent there, it was held in a nice warehouse space
in the downtown cincinnati ghetto...seems to be an artists community or
something but there was plenty of room...i didnt stay too long, but titonton
was playing some drum and bass with a bit of techno style mixing and
sounds...not techstep...detroit style...the vibe and sound was both
good...there was plenty of room to chill or dance...i thought the crowd was
pretty young but they were into the music (among other things ; ) and
everyone seemed well-behaved...i would have liked to have heard dan curtin,
but with my schedule the past 3 days i havent gotten much sleep...respect to
subsonik for providing another local outlet to hear good music and for
supporting the techno (and drum and bass) sound in a main arena and not
gouging the public to do it...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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Well last nite we had a nice little incident involving drinking too much...
Which links this to the reason I had to drive 2 blocks to use a public 
bathroom in Jolly Slapnuts!
Right now I'm awaken thanx to the nice aroma that has seem to lurk from the 
bathroom to the entire apartment complex.
I have to pee again and yet again I have to hold it in till I fill the need 
to go visit the lady with a mustache and goatee.
There's a lesson here kiddies....STEVIE CLEAN UP YOUR PUKE AFTER YOU DO IT!

"YOuR PORNSTAR RoOmaTes"

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so.. playstation.. thanks for the shot of bourbon there, pal..

i found my camera..

i'm gonna take a shower now and lay on the couch. 

thank u all. good to see u again, or meet u as the case may be. 
way to make the most of it, and then some.

i think i'll be in detroit next weekend.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 13 20:19:57 2000
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i must sayu that was one of the most insane happpenings i have ever
witnessed. heheh. 

we got to the party around 1130ish...the place was paaaaaacked. felt like
a sardine.  the cops came. we sat around. we went to a bar and got rowdy.
it was fun.  =)  a crazy collision of about fifty million worlds of mine.
friends from all over in one place. one city.  wow. beautiful. i think
that writing much more tho would kinda destroy the majik of it all.  so
ill just leave it at that. you kinda had to be there to understand i
guess. heheh. i would pay mor ethan twenty bucks to relive it all. 

props to jj and j-sun for constructing thestart of a wonderful
night...even tho the cops busted it...it turned out to be fantastic. all
of you "konfuzzled" people...you guys rock.  we must do this again
sometime...but not within the next month...cuz i need to recover. damn.

lates*
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 13 21:50:17 2000
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where the hell did you come from?

actually, i think you did spawn from hell come to think of it.

your first few posts on the lists i've read are probably
the most negative posts i've ever read on the list...you
certainly live up to your nickname.

when i think of you i get a vision of girl who hasn't been
loved and has decided to take your frustration out on others.
nobody appreciates a party pooper...and you certainly live up
to that moniker...do the list a favor and unsubscribe, because
nobody here wants to be pulled down to your level aka HELL!

--- Carrie Lynn McDonough <carrienegative@angelfire.com> wrote:
>  It's really none of my business, but it seems that stevie must be having some sexual
> frustration. Who the hell cares where someone decides to fuck? It should really be none of
> anyone elses business besides the consenting parties. To post this in public is a shame.
>  Reading this also generated a bad vision in my head of a slimy troll (stevie) trying to listen
> to bedroom doors at night. Get a fucking life slimy troll.
>  p.s.
> why would anyone decide to live with stevie? well, whoever it is, they must hate themselves
> quite a bit.  
> --
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:11:20    IHavelssuez wrote:
> >In a message dated 2/7/00 9:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> >Steviet069@aol.com writes:
> >
> ><< thank God for my porn*star roomies: zenopiez, nicci, and 
> > oh yah, the newest one: bri!!...or my broke ass would've been
> > evicted!!
> > 
> > lol, nicci has already managed to devirginize the bathroom as 
> > well as their bedroom now within a 48 hour period!! >>
> >
> >i have NO idea what yer talking about! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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This WEBSITE sums up my experiences and life in Wisconsin. In fact, Make 
sure you check out Chapter 12, on Vibration. It is easier to describe what 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 13 22:53:22 2000
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Well, a more complete review will come later, but here's a quick
briefing:

The space sucked. 1000 person capacity my ass. There was absolutely no
room to dance, and people were shoving the whole time, just to try to
walk around. I think 500 people might have been able to be comfortable
in there. Also, the party got shut down at 1am. Richie Hawtin never went
on. We drove for hours, paid $20 a piece, and saw two DJs and couldn't
dance. When everyone finally got out of the club at 1, there were a
whole bunch of ravers in the street shouting "fuck Louisville." I know
I'm never going to a party in that damn city again, everything seemed
really shady.

I saw Becky there (hey Becky!) but that was it as far as people I knew.
I came with two of my friends, and we had more fun watching and
commentating on the figure skating on TV in our hotel room than actually
at the fucking rave. The only good thing: it wasn't hot. They kept it at
a good temperature. The sound wasn't real good, the space was hella
crowded, and it got busted before Hawtin went on. Sound like a good
deal? Oh, of course.

Anyway, I guess I'm waiting for some sort of apology from Strange Loop
Productions, because in this day and age, there are things you really
have to check on like permits, fire codes, and safety. When you book
Plastikman and don't know how to throw a proper party, it's really shady
and your fellow ravers get pissed as hell. 

Anyway, that's enough outta me for now. 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 00:09:36 2000
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:Anyway, I guess I'm waiting for some sort of apology from Strange Loop
:Productions, because in this day and age, there are things you really
:have to check on like permits, fire codes, and safety. When you book
:Plastikman and don't know how to throw a proper party, it's really shady
:and your fellow ravers get pissed as hell.

hmm. apparently you weren't aware of interstellar dreamfest, which was
thrown by the same collaboration as last night party was, also included
richie hawtin, and is remembered, by myself at least, as the hands down best
party i have ever had the priveledge of attending. don't get me wrong, i
completely understand your anger, but it is generally a good idea to try a
rational approach first. i'm quite positive that if you took a bit of time
to ask, you would get an explanation, perhaps not one your satisfied with,
but you'd get one, nonetheless (a good place to start might be
www.strangeloop.nu )

keep in mind also, when you buy a ticket, you buy a risk. we're all smart
enough to know that what we do isn't exactly encouraged by the authorities,
and sometimes (more and more so lately when irresponsible ravers get
themselves and drugs on the local news) bad things happen to good people. we
ourselves choose to put ourselves in an environment where illegal activities
take place, to associate ourselves with a group of people who,
unfortunately, don't care have enough presence of mind to realise that they
are doing things that will ruin this for everyone else.

:We drove for hours, paid $20 a piece, and saw two DJs and couldn't
:dance.

would you have rather been told that you couldn't come in without presales?
it's not a challenge, just a question. i'm curious as to which in the long
run you would have preferred (i'm assuming by what you wrote that you didn't
have presales, if i'm wrong, nevermind)

there's something i can assure you of, and you may not believe me, but i
know it's true. the promoters are not greedy people, and they are not new to
throwing parties by any possible standards. i think if you checked around
(researching your promoters is always a good idea....remember that
ticket/risk thing) you would find that the number of successful parties
they've thrown far far outnumbers the unsuccessful (last night is the only
that i am aware of)... they do this for the love of the music and the
gathering, and i know that there is no one right now more disappointed than
they are....and not for themselves, but for you, and everyone else that was
let down last night.

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> i'm quite positive that if you took a bit of time
> to ask, you would get an explanation, perhaps not one your satisfied with,
> but you'd get one, nonetheless (a good place to start might be
> www.strangeloop.nu )

I do plan to email someone from Strange Loop to find out exactly what
happened. I don't really really blame them for what happened, I just
think the event should have been organized better.

> :We drove for hours, paid $20 a piece, and saw two DJs and couldn't
> :dance.
> 
> would you have rather been told that you couldn't come in without presales?
> it's not a challenge, just a question. i'm curious as to which in the long
> run you would have preferred (i'm assuming by what you wrote that you didn't
> have presales, if i'm wrong, nevermind)

Actually, we did have presales, but many who didn't were told that they
weren't allowed in. If you were from Louisville and didn't have a
presale, you weren't allowed into the event, no matter how early you got
there (so I heard from people there).

> there's something i can assure you of, and you may not believe me, but i
> know it's true. the promoters are not greedy people, and they are not new to
> throwing parties by any possible standards. 

I know Strange Loop is a good team and that's why I attended the event.
If someone booked Richie Hawtin and they didn't have a good reputation
for throwing good parties, I don't think I'd go, but I know Strange Loop
is good. I'm not trying to be an ass about this, because I know you
weren't attempting to with your post (and I definitely appreciate that),
I'm just trying to say what I didn't say in my other email. Someone
asked me if I thought it was a scam by the promoters to get money, and I
know that wasn't the case, not only because I believe it, but because
Richie was there, it wasn't some bullshit thing -- I wouldn't expect
bullshit from these promoters, I'm just pointing that out. 

Anyway, I guess I just want to know what happened, because the party
really wasn't that good. 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 00:54:03 2000
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In a message dated 2/13/2000 7:46:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
weasel3@dot-net.net writes:

<< I do plan to email someone from Strange Loop to find out exactly what
 happened. I don't really really blame them for what happened, I just
 think the event should have been organized better.
  >>

from what we were told, they were told that the space was permitted for 1300 
people. Of course with everything thats been going on in Louisville with the 
police lately, that doesn't mean anything. Especially when the fire marshall 
comes in and tries to say that the capacity wasn't 1300, but 300. Now I don't 
think it takes a brain surgeon to figure out that Club X holds more than 300 
people. 

Of course none of this came directly from Jason or JJ's mouths to my ears, so 
we'll see, but thats what 3 people involved with the party's operations told 
me.

still got way more than his $20 worth...whooohhooooo =)
shawne

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If anyone's interested in doing a drum & bass night at Fuse (738 N. Clark) - 
e-mail me.  It would be Tuesdays - 9:00 to 2:00am.  Thanx!

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In a message dated 2/14/00 12:54:25 AM !!!First Boot!!!, OLeSkL@aol.com 
writes:

> Now I don't 
>  think it takes a brain surgeon to figure out that Club X holds more than 
300 
> 
>  people. 
Unfortunately, in the case of fire coding, you'd be amazed at
how restricting it can be! For instance, I just got finished 
checkingon an old abanndoned TARGET here in Indy. 

You know how big the average Target store is.  And THIS 
was a SuperTarget Store!  The fire marshall quotes me
at 800 people.  

WAIT!?!

Yeah, because of the # of exits, the ease of finding and 
getting through the exits, and some other building 
codes, it all takes away from the fact that the space is
a BIG OPEN SPACE with no columns, obstacles to impede
trafic flow, etc..  

800!

Next time you go to a Target store, imagine it without 
all the shit in it and tell me how many people YOU would
think the place could REASONABLY hold.  

So, yeah, while you may be able to cram 1000 kids 
at Club X, doing so is probably illegal.

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> > Now I don't
> >  think it takes a brain surgeon to figure out that Club X holds more than
> 300
> 
> Yeah, because of the # of exits, the ease of finding and
> getting through the exits, and some other building
> codes, it all takes away from the fact that the space is
> a BIG OPEN SPACE with no columns, obstacles to impede
> trafic flow, etc..

Yeah, Club X only had two exits and they were small. If there were a
fire in there or something, barely anyone would be able to get out.
Probably Club X could hold about 600-700 people fairly comfortably, but
to get all those people out in the event of an emergency would be quite
a feat. 

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So.

1. When I talked to JJ a week or 2 prior to the event,
he told me that due to the TV special they had in
Louisville about some kids who had gotten busted in a
hotel in the Louisville area either dealing or doing
drugs, they had problems locking down a secure and
safe venue that would have all necessary permits. They
had a few places in mind, but they were sort of
sketched out by the whole "rave" thing. Not surprising
at all, knowing what the general public thinks about
"raves". That would probably explain why JJ and Jason
chose Club X, seeing as how it had had that kind of
events there before.

2. What I don't understand is the following:
JJ and Jason are not new to this promoting thing. They
have thrown plenty of successful events. If they get a
venue smaller than what was originally anticipated,
why did they not ask the owners to show them their
fire code permits or why did they not contact the fire
marshall to make sure that Club X was up to code and
what the capacity was. Knowing for sure what the
capacity of the venue is, then you can sell that many
pre-sales. True, they could have lost their ass by not
selling enough pre-sales to cover their cost, but
losing money is always better than losing face or
reputation (at least I think so anyway). When I talked
to someone the night of the event, I was told the
promoters had sold over 1000 tickets. 

3. I am sure there's a reasonable explanation to
everything and I am sure we will hear it soon;
therefore I urge everybody to not make any conclusions
without knowing all the facts. However some questions
do remain unanswered, and there's a lot of people out
there who will never go to a Louisville party again
who have no access to this mailing list and may never
find out the truth.

It was nice seeing a lot of people. I hope we'll all
party again soon and under better circumstances. To me
there were a few things I loved about the party:

- even though the space was small, JJ and Jason tried
to make the best out of it with decorations and the
general setup
- sound downstairs was absolutely badass - massive
props to Project 7 for all the hard work they put into
it. Whoever thinks that sound downstairs sucked needs
to shut the fuck up and get their ears checked. It was
loud and clear.
- the ambience was very nice. I liked the lasers and
the projections. Not every party has to have fucking
30493049 trackspots and a 250 megawatt multicolor
laser to make it worth while. 
- getting butt humped by Playstation was simply out of
this world
- Richie needs to lay off Sobe ;)
- i saw boobs when richie was on the stage - AGAIN
- plur.


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by the way everyone... my ass was asleep in the car outside pandamonium when 
all the naked-drunken plastik lake ho / hawtin playin air hockey yadda yadda 
yadda went down (man i didn't even get to meet luke monteiro!!!!)  but i 
heard alllllllll about it.
so now i must ask..



      i get no tits?







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I..i...i..i ii love the way..i love the way..ii i..i love the way..

u make me feel.. =



i know this site is old...but i must find out what the names of those tra=
cks
are....some deadly ass tunes on there.



i  i  i ii  ii love the way u make me feel -the green album


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PLAYSTATION SHOWED HIS DICK AT THE AFTERHOURS AND I
DIDN"T GET TO SEE IT!?!?!

OMG!

=(


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In a message dated 2/13/0 2:04:06 PM, nicci wrote:

<<Well last nite we had a nice little incident involving drinking too much...
Which links this to the reason I had to drive 2 blocks to use a public 
bathroom in Jolly Slapnuts!
Right now I'm awaken thanx to the nice aroma that has seem to lurk from the 
bathroom to the entire apartment complex.
I have to pee again and yet again I have to hold it in till I fill the need 
to go visit the lady with a mustache and goatee.
There's a lesson here kiddies....STEVIE CLEAN UP YOUR PUKE AFTER YOU DO IT!

"YOuR PORNSTAR RoOmaTes">>

'tis true...next porn party, no tequila for me!!...actually,
tequila + lotsa coronas + bud dry + cold medicine +
left over pizza = bad party combination!!...

atleast i got to catch reegan's honky dance before i crashed ;P~
hellz, i even crashed on the couch in the v.i.p. room @ red zone 
in the middle of KGB's set the night before cuz i've been so tired 
from havin to get up @ 7am every mornin for work!!

fo rilly...all work & no play makes jack a dull boy!!!...
flee the matrix as long as you can kiddies, for it will 
suck away your soul!!...




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there's a lot of people out
>there who will never go to a Louisville party again
>who have no access to this mailing list and may never
>find out the truth.

i have been to several parties in louisville and have never had a fantastic 
experience.  not to say i didnt have fun but i have yet to have a great 
time.  and i will probablly go back in the future and try it again...

peace-
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Stevie, I love her. quite honestly, i think she is more pure in heart than
many people i have met. granted she has hostile tendencies, but they out
weight the rambling, epic monologues that you provide us 7, if not more,
times a day. quite honestly i think that you need to unsub. you seem to
cause just as much hostility on this list.
-choppie


On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, stevie t wrote:

> when i think of you i get a vision of girl who hasn't been
> loved and has decided to take your frustration out on others.
> nobody appreciates a party pooper...and you certainly live up
> to that moniker...do the list a favor and unsubscribe, because
> nobody here wants to be pulled down to your level aka HELL!
> 
> --- Carrie Lynn McDonough <carrienegative@angelfire.com> wrote:
> >  It's really none of my business, but it seems that stevie must be having some sexual
> > frustration. Who the hell cares where someone decides to fuck? It should really be none of
> > anyone elses business besides the consenting parties. To post this in public is a shame.
> >  Reading this also generated a bad vision in my head of a slimy troll (stevie) trying to listen
> > to bedroom doors at night. Get a fucking life slimy troll.
> >  p.s.
> > why would anyone decide to live with stevie? well, whoever it is, they must hate themselves
> > quite a bit.  
> > --
> > 
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2000 02:11:20    IHavelssuez wrote:
> > >In a message dated 2/7/00 9:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
> > >Steviet069@aol.com writes:
> > >
> > ><< thank God for my porn*star roomies: zenopiez, nicci, and 
> > > oh yah, the newest one: bri!!...or my broke ass would've been
> > > evicted!!
> > > 
> > > lol, nicci has already managed to devirginize the bathroom as 
> > > well as their bedroom now within a 48 hour period!! >>
> > >
> > >i have NO idea what yer talking about! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> > >
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In a message dated 2/14/0 3:08:39 AM, choppie wrote:

<<but they out weight the rambling, epic monologues that 
you provide us 7, if not more, times a day.>>

huh?..i only posted once yesterday, twice the day before,
and not at all the two days before!!

and the only reason i had to post wuz to reply to personal
attacks!

but the pattern is always the same: i would post something
atleast some what enlightening as portrayed in the original
title of this thread about math & biblical codes...then evil
mysterious flame idiots pop up & rather having an intelligent
discussion of the topic at hand (mostly because they lack the
intellect to formulate a semi-intelligent response) turn it into 
another personal attack flame war...

in addition, i am one of the oldest heads on this list, the day
i leave this list will be the day the list has officially lost
one of its original great spirits...don't buy into the hate folks
...for that is what will truly destroy us...


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 03:40:34 2000
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I think shawne said it perfectly.

<<still got way more than his $20 worth...whooohhooooo >>

this is stuff we are gonna love and cherish and laugh our asses off until we die !

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

as one of the older heads on the list, i can say with certainty that when
you left, (tail between legs mind you) last time, noone really missed you.
In fact, I would bet to guess, that most of us missed Jong more when he
moved to NYC, than when you unsubbed.

Spirit or no, Stevie, please shut the fuck up. I don't want to hear about
your business anymore than I'm sure you want to hear about what goes on
inside my apartment with Marc behind closed doors. That stuff is priate,
and should stay between you and your roommates, as I'm sure they'd even
agree with me on this point.


> in addition, i am one of the oldest heads on this list, the day
> i leave this list will be the day the list has officially lost
> one of its original great spirits...don't buy into the hate folks
> ...for that is what will truly destroy us...

Thank you and have a nice evening.

-Becky =)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 04:12:41 2000
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In a message dated 2/14/0 3:54:22 AM, becky wrote:

<<as one of the older heads on the list, >>

excuse me?...i started doin parties in '91, along with
helpin dozens of crus throughout the midwest during the
golden age of raves, as well as publishing a free rave zine 
for over a year...the most i recall of 'becky wangera' is the 
mw-raves queen bitch when she first popped on around '95...
obviously that hasn't changed much...

trust me folks, you don't want to be known as the mw-raves
queen bitch...start something positive...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 04:36:55 2000
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I'm surprised that you of all people would tell
someone to unsub from the list.  She has as much right
to post what she wants as you or I.

--Will

--- stevie t <steviet069@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ...do the list a favor and
> unsubscribe, because
> nobody here wants to be pulled down to your level
> aka HELL!
 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 04:39:33 2000
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I bought a ticket to Love 2000 a little while ago for $25.
s00zi came to Minneapolis for the weekend to hang out.
Late Saturday night I was pretty excited about it.  I wanted to be raving.

I went to dinner Saturday evening with s00zie, Luke Rider and Chris Ege.   
That was a lot of fun.  There was good conversation, a free throw and dunking 
contest on the TV, and a big plate of nachos.  We played car party  and I ran 
a red light that I didn't know what red.  

We ran around to everyone's houses so we could change and went to the party.  
We got there around 1 am and saw that we had a very long wait in line in 
front of us, so I sold my ticket (that party sold out) for more than what I 
paid for it, and we all left.  Hung out at Perkins and at my house.

That was my Love 2000.  I bet I had a much better time than those who 
actually went.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 04:41:38 2000
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Actually, I've seen alot of intellectual responses to
almost all of your postings (sans the Jon Gotti
replies).

Usually the pattern is:

- You post something long, conspiritorial, and
paranoid.
- Someone replys with a counter argument
- You reply to them with accusations of racism or
satanism.

So which will I be...a bigot or a demon?

--Will

--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> and the only reason i had to post wuz to reply to
> personal
> attacks!
> 
> but the pattern is always the same: i would post
> something
> atleast some what enlightening as portrayed in the
> original
> title of this thread about math & biblical
> codes...then evil
> mysterious flame idiots pop up & rather having an
> intelligent
> discussion of the topic at hand (mostly because they
> lack the
> intellect to formulate a semi-intelligent response)
> turn it into 
> another personal attack flame war...

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>From: Three Jay <undagroundelements@yahoo.com>
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In a message dated 2/14/2000 12:04:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
sistajade@hotmail.com writes:

<< DJ SKULL-LIVE
 MISS. HONEY DIJON
 FELIX THE HOUSE CAT
 DAJAE - PERFORMING LIVE
 DJ FUNK >>

I thought DJ Funk was dead??? Is this more false billing by promoters or 
something??

wearin black in mourning
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yep. he showed it all. 

sorry you missed it, but i'm sure you'll
have other opportunities...

matt

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 05:14:45 2000
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Are you kidding?  I havent slept in 48 hours so my sense of humor is a bit 
distorted.  Dj Funk will not be dead until after the next Ghetto party in 
Indy.


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>In a message dated 2/14/2000 12:04:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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><< DJ SKULL-LIVE
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>  DJ FUNK >>
>
>I thought DJ Funk was dead??? Is this more false billing by promoters or
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I know womeone who has taken the clovers....she said
that they were pretty good  she said that they were a
tad trippy but what she described didn't sound
anything like how DXM feels
She got them in ohio if that helps which i doubt it
does
--- Tom Sprynczynatyk <spry0004@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
> Marquis reagent:
> 90% sulphuric acid
> 10% formaldehyde (37%)
> 
> The EZ-Test kits are a little different.
> 90% sulphuric acid
> 5% formaldehyde (37%)
> 5% methanol
> 
> Shouldn't be a problem if you've got a lab.  Too bad
> the average human
> being will have a tough time getting their hot
> little hands on
> formaldehyde.
> 
> 
> The Alchemist
> 
> --
> Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
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Excuse me decent people for this but, Will all of you ignorant mother fuckers 
who keep spreading rumors of D.J. funk being dead stop. This is really 
beginning to make him think someones to kill him. The shit ain't cute nor is 
it funny. His style of music does not reflect his life outside of raves. Grow 
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>I went to dinner Saturday evening with s00zie, Luke Rider and Chris Ege.


no FAIR! you got to eat dinner with superstar dj CHRISTPOR E!?! hes one of 
my best friends and i dont get to eat dinner with him....
i miss (the people in) wis-fukkin-consin!
i still hate mw.raves, even tho im being nice to one of you doesnt mean i am 
going to do it for all of you....i hate you all!
laura
---throwing away all of her trance records and hanging herself...
ps-my richie/derek commentary will be coming soon...as you can see im not 
doing to well completing thoughts right now as i am still in shock from 
seeing derek's junk and richie's sausage....ill recover and come back 
soon...RICHIE touched my pussy! yAy

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RICHIE

that is all

i still hate you

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maybe people should think about what they are posting and how what they say
may really affect somebody's life!  this is a perfect example of this.  i'm
proud to say i've never taken part in the "dj funk is dead" threads of the
past.


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| Excuse me decent people for this but, Will all of you ignorant mother
fuckers
| who keep spreading rumors of D.J. funk being dead stop. This is really
| beginning to make him think someones to kill him. The shit ain't cute nor
is
| it funny. His style of music does not reflect his life outside of raves.
Grow
| up please...Paul Johnson...


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 05:39:09 2000
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oh YEAH

do you know what the odds are of a fire ever ACTUALLY happening?!?

A MILLION TO ONE!!!

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:Actually, we did have presales, but many who didn't were told that they
:weren't allowed in. If you were from Louisville and didn't have a
:presale, you weren't allowed into the event, no matter how early you got
:there (so I heard from people there).


i don't know that it was cut and dried "you can't get in, period" but i do
know that preference for those without tickets was given to anyone out of
city or out of state. makes sense if you think about how many people would
make the drive here for someone like richie hawtin, but not be able to get
presales, if only because they aren't local. but people who live here, the
only excuse any one of them could have had was that they didn't have money
in time for presales (this is just my personal opinion) it makes sense to
me...if someone locally is told they can't come in, they'll be disappointed,
then make the 10-20 minute drive home...but if someone is from out of town
and is told they can't get in, they've made a much longer, much more costly
trip for nothing...

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damn, stevie.  shut the fuck up you puking snoring chinese 
thirty-five-year-old son of a bitch!

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ha!

threejay and jay three are both throwing parties on march 4!  innit.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 05:48:58 2000
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> Yeah, Club X only had two exits and they were small. If there were a
> fire in there or something, barely anyone would be able to get out.
> Probably Club X could hold about 600-700 people fairly comfortably, but
> to get all those people out in the event of an emergency would be quite
> a feat.

It took over 1/2 hour for everyone to get out, and not to mention the
fact that they had the place decorated with plastic and stuff which
is really bad in a fire.

I was at Interstellar Dreamfest and I give Strange Loop mad props
for that, but 2/12/00 had some major problems.  That venue was
*way* too small for who they booked.  (Yeah, I want to book Paul
Oakenfold at DV8 in Cincinnati...)  They are obviously a great crew,
but someone just wasn't thinking about some important things with
that party.. like checking on city ordinances and getting a venue big
enough...

They needed a venue about 2 to 3 times that size.  I would have been
willing to pay a bit more for the ticket to have room to move around
and not get the party shut down.

Other than the size of the venue and the fact that they didn't check
beforehand about the curfew ordinance, it was a *great* production
and would have been a great party with 1/2 the number of people.
Sound and decoration and lighting was good or decent at least,
and the crowd was pretty nice... but no room to move... I hate
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I was supposed to be promoting my unknown CD at LOVE 2000 this weekend, I was 
all psyched about it, but my ride failed. So instead I ended up going to 
PROGRESS, a little pseudo-rave in Esko, MN. Well my night went like this...

6:45PM: Arrive at Progress, talk to the DJs and other workers, put up a booth 
to sell CDs.

7:00PM: Give a free copy to 103.3 FM KUMD. Some more people show up. I talk 
to DJs Xaq, Elektrik Messiah, Ian and some more for a while.

7:30PM: Getting really frustrated in not selling any CDs I packed up the 
booth. More people came inside.

8:00PM: Not a huge turnout yet. Met a girl who just moved here from Chicago, 
she wanted to trade for some Gel Tabs but I didn't have anything she wanted. 
Danced.

Sometime PM: I met some friends of mine and was introduced to some new ones. 
I contemplated whether or not I wanted to stay sober. Still not a huge 
turnout. Danced with some random girls. Met a girl whose name I don't 
remember, she ate the candy off my candy necklaces :)

10ish PM: Suddenly got packed. DJ Neko was playing, I believe. I was still 
contemplating sobriety, I had been sober since Christmas Break. That chick 
whose name I don't remember shared her Welbutrin with me. I've never taken 
Welbutrin before so I didn't know what to expect. I got dizzy, tired, and not 
very coherant. I sat around and watched the patterns forming on the backs of 
my eyelids. When I was more awake I was flirting with this girl and we had 
some good conversation but that's really all the farther it went.

Around 12:00 AM: Party, or what I could see of it, was filled to the brim. I 
started to remember why I prefered sobriety. I was having more fun when I 
wasn't on any drugs.

1-somthing AM: I found myself sitting in the chill-out room. The Elektrik 
Messiah was playing some nice slow, down-beat, hard-bass type stuff. I was 
sitting on a little padded bench with my friend Cody. We were both coming 
down off the Welbutrin. I felt myself gaining a really clear state of mind. I 
thought about everything I want to do with the rest of my life. My friend 
Cody looked over at me and said "I just figured out what I'm going to do with 
the rest of my life. Absoloutly nothing." I was really disgusted with that so 
I looked at him and said "I just figured out what I'm going to do with the 
rest of my life. I'm gonna go out and make a name for myself.." I continued 
on with a long philisophical speach about how I hated that stuff was 
happening to me with the drugs and I how I want to be the one to do stuff. I 
want to create. I want to perform. As I went on, my words slowly started to 
go to the rythm of the slow, down-beat, hard-bass music. Then I just started 
a string of free-style rhyming and kept going on for a good couple of 
minutes. A couple people took notice.  It was almost 2:00AM by now and I was 
feeling really inspired. Everyone was leaving which shows that the Duluth 
night-life sucks.

1:45 AM: The DJs were packing up, me, Cody, and Ray were waiting for our 
rides home. I started to talk to DJ Ian again about my CD and he thought it 
was really cool. I talked to Xaq and he said that he'll try to let my play at 
the next Progress and some-time during the Elektrik Messiah's next 
performance he wants me to come up and do a little MCing.

2:05 AM: My ride showed up. I went over to my friend Tim's house, he wasn't 
doing anything that night anyway. So I told him about my night and just 
crashed there.

So that was my night and my replacement for LOVE. Not the best story but it 
was better than sitting around watching TV.

-Menning-

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 05:58:10 2000
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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/14/0 3:54:22 AM, becky wrote:
>
> <<as one of the older heads on the list, >>
>
> excuse me?...i started doin parties in '91, along with
> helpin dozens of crus throughout the midwest during the
> golden age of raves, as well as publishing a free rave zine
> for over a year...the most i recall of 'becky wangera' is the
> mw-raves queen bitch when she first popped on around '95...
> obviously that hasn't changed much...
>
> trust me folks, you don't want to be known as the mw-raves
> queen bitch...start something positive...

Someone needs to feel important... someone needs to feel
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 05:58:33 2000
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>i don't know that it was cut and dried "you can't get in, period" but i do
>know that preference for those without tickets was given to anyone out of


I really think all things considered.. that *no one* w/o a presale ticket
should have been let in.




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 06:40:53 2000
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wellbutrin!!!!???

why on earth did you take wellbutrin?  feeling depressed?  trying to quit
smoking?

people who take anti-depressants recreationally make it pretty hard to
defend the rave scene as not being solely about drugs.

    -bill

in case you were curious:
http://www.glaxowellcome.com/pi/wellbusr.pdf
or
http://www.glaxowellcome.com/pi/zyban.pdf

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<snip>
> 10ish PM: Suddenly got packed. DJ Neko was playing, I believe. I was still
> contemplating sobriety, I had been sober since Christmas Break. That chick
> whose name I don't remember shared her Welbutrin with me. I've never taken
> Welbutrin before so I didn't know what to expect. I got dizzy, tired, and
not
> very coherant. I sat around and watched the patterns forming on the backs
of
> my eyelids. When I was more awake I was flirting with this girl and we had
> some good conversation but that's really all the farther it went.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 06:41:06 2000
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i am listening to this mix as i type... female vocals: "its a fine day, 
people of the winter.."

it is the dj spyhunter melodic trance set on hyperreal:

djsets.hyperreal.org/listen.cgi?listen_to=19990000!SPYHUNTER!02.rm



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 06:43:34 2000
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please hit me back.  (whack!)

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In a message dated 2/14/00 12:41:08 AM Central Standard Time, 
wbunyan@milwaukeepc.com writes:

<< wellbutrin!!!!???
 
 why on earth did you take wellbutrin?  feeling depressed?  trying to quit
 smoking?
 
 people who take anti-depressants recreationally make it pretty hard to
 defend the rave scene as not being solely about drugs. >>


She claimed it would "fuck you up pretty good".  Cody claimed to be seeing 
shit crawling all over stuff. I was just tired and dizzy and not really able 
to make much sense. I didn't even know what Welbutrin was for in the first 
place. Anyway, in the end I realized that I'm not going to do drugs much any 
more. The whole thing is getting really old and boring. When the pills wore 
off I had a lot more fun.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 07:05:11 2000
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If your going to do drugs do something usefull..say for instance LSD

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 07:07:10 2000
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-those people that wear their hats sideways
-people that ask you if it bothers you if they spark up - you say yes and 
they do it anyway
-being packed like a sardine and not being able to dance
-venues that allow smoking inside
-$5 bottles of water
-"tech vests"
-that guy next to me that keeps stepping on my toes as he jumps madly to 
hardcore (and not happyhardcore)
-ecko
-people that dont dress up in wild fashions...
-people making out on the dance floor
-e-tards/e-puddles

and now i have a project to finish... the real list will come later

peace-
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:44:08 EST, Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

>
>In a message dated 2/12/0 4:36:37 AM, joe wrote:
>
><<Oh sure...a handful of messages in the middle of the night
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>
>all that time & bandwidth, yet you still didn't manage to 
>filter me?
>
>too bad, joe.  i used to respect you.
>

No.  It filtered you, it was the first message that my new
e-mail program filtered.  I was looking through the trash
folder to see it the filters were working properly.

As for this message, sometimes I read the mail in the
trash because from time time, someone else has
something interesting to say, yet the message
has your name in it.  I'll even admit that sometimes
you have something interesting to say too.  It's just
the ratio between your good and bad posts is skewed
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February 15, 2000 and every Tuesday is Eternal Beats Internet Radio live
from Long Island, NewYork, USA 10PM till 1AM Eastern
Standard Time.

Go to www.eternalbeats.cjb.net anytime from 10PM till 1AM
Click on live broadcast.

Talk to the DJs & listeners in the Eternal Beats Chat room

If you're on America Online or AOL Instant Messenger, you can Instant
Message us at:

DJ Lord V
DJ KAZ 1NY

You will need at least a 28K modem to view the presentation.

February 15, 2000

10PM till 12:00AM
Lord V (Eternal Beats, NY)
Breakbeat, electro, battle breaks, house & more

12:00AM till 1:00AM
Kaz (Generation X'd/United We Stand)
Hardcore

Guests DJs coming soon:
Usul, Magic, Narotic & Xeno, Odi, Vicious Vic, Bobby Skills & Space
Monk-E & many more.

If you are a DJ interested in spinning on the show, e-mail me your
contact information.  If you want promotional support for your
partys,bookings for any of the DJs heard on the show, e-mail me your
contact info.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 07:36:04 2000
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hi!  that was me in the big pants, i was all fucked up!  :P

mw-raves-posse seemed to both arrive and depart en masse.  fuck you, for 
not saying goodbye!

ps you are lucky if you got out early and didn't hear me get on the mic :P

WE BUBBLE WE BUBBLE WE BUBBLE UP THE RIDE

"hey, you're on the wrong side of the road!"

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I SAW YOU THERE MR MCCUSTY.
I GOT YOU MARKED MAN. 


[michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>]
> hi!  that was me in the big pants, i was all fucked up!  :P
> 
> mw-raves-posse seemed to both arrive and depart en masse.  fuck you, for 
> not saying goodbye!
> 
> ps you are lucky if you got out early and didn't hear me get on the mic :P
> 
> WE BUBBLE WE BUBBLE WE BUBBLE UP THE RIDE
> 
> "hey, you're on the wrong side of the road!"
> 
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is there anyone up that way that would be willing to let me crash on their 
couch for a few hours afterwards...  i need to start figuring out how i am 
going to work this little trip on my zero budget.


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At 02:46 AM 2/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
>is there anyone up that way that would be willing to let me crash on their 
>couch for a few hours afterwards...  i need to start figuring out how i am 
>going to work this little trip on my zero budget.

if there are a lot of people in the same situation let me know and i'll try 
to organise some sort of mass-crash-pad.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 08:13:03 2000
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I know I was hyped to go to Menage A Trois (Equilibrium Entertainment)
Saturday - 15 DJs listed on the flier including some big names. Plus their
flier said they would have a Casino Room ... an Oxygen Bar ... Video Game
room ... Gaian Juice Bar!

Their flier said doors open at 10pm.

But when I called and the announcement was finally updated with venue
directions ... it said doors open at 11pm (yet their website still said
10pm) ... and they said they had to move the event to a smaller venue ...
and from the directions I knew they were in the WYOU building.  You can fit
maybe 300 people in there (borrowing from a message posted on the Midwest
Rave Team Message Board).  I would imagine they had sold far more than 300
presale tickets! Plus where did they put the casino, video games and oxygen
and gaian juice bar?

And how did they plan to have 15 DJs performing in that small space in just
8 hours?

Then I heard that others in Madison also realized right away that the WYOU
space would never accommodate the crowd that was going to show up!  So with
just 6 hours planning time - a second event was put together for another
venue in Madison called Run Off.  The nice thing was that they did not start
advertising this second event UNTIL MENAGE A TROIS began to refuse
admittance to people in line.

Even with this second venue up and going ... there still were people who
could not get into EITHER event!!!

The clincher from a message on the Midwest Rave Team message board was that
Equilibrium (Menage A Trois promoter) then went over to the Run Off venue
and complained that they (Run Off) was taking away their (Menage) business!
How in the world can that be true if they were turning away people and
refusing admittance to a HUGE LINE waiting to get in???  Apparently the Run
Off group had to pay Equilibrium $650 ... for what, I have no clue.

Read the whole message from the board here:
http://www.hostedscripts.com/boards/jfmphtmn/messages/1533.html

So ... does anyone have the real story on what went down with Menage A
Trois?

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 08:40:34 2000
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I just realized something tonight...  I haven't been going to parties
much
lately because I've gotten so sickened by the fact that the midwest
scene, especially around my area (Cincinnati) has become such a
drama/ego fest and I don't feel like I have (or want) any place in it...

But... I realized something at 2/12/00, despite the fact that the party
got shut down... I had a chance while I was there to do something I have

not done much lately.  I found a spot away from everyone that I knew,
upstairs in front of the little projection screen they had up there, and

busted out dancing.  I danced for a good hour or so.. at least it seemed

like that long.. and I remembered how much I miss what that feels
like.

There is nothing else like it.  For me it is mind altering.. I don't
need
any drugs.. just the act of moving freely like that awakens and
heightens
parts of my mind that normally lie only partially awake.   It is
freedom,
the most absolute feeling of freedom that can possibly exist.  It is the

nearest any human being can come to experiencing heaven on Earth.
For days after just an hour or so of dancing I feel more alive than
normal.. the energy flows through my mind.. my intuition is heightened
and my feelings are elevated...

Why am I the only person who feels this way?  Why is it that this is
what I consider important and not all the stupid egos or who is more
'rave' than who or who has higher status in the 'scene' than who?  I
could care less about the 'scene'.  To me the scene only existed as a
place where people could gather to experience something.  Now
nobody cares about the experience anymore... they are only focused
on all the stupid drama surrounding it.

Wake up people!  If you want drama.. if you want popularity contests...
if you want ego-fests or a place to show how cool you are, these things
can be found in normal average everyday life!  That's what normal life
is!  It is the drama and the egos and the popularity contests that make
life on Earth suck so bad!  Raves, like ceremonies and festivals and
religions and all the other methods of creating 'Temporary Autonomous
Zones' that people have created, exist in order to liberate us from all
that stupid monotony and negativity.  So to all those who don't know
or care what I am talking about in the above paragraph about how it
feels to dance, why the hell are you here?!?!?  Why not go elsewhere
to have your stupid goddamn ego contest?  Why not go elsewhere to
show off?  Join a college frat, join the club and bar scene, or if you
are
younger go to high school.  These are all places where you can play
your stupid goddamn drama/popularity/ego games.. that's what they
are for!

Lately I've felt like I'm not welcome here because all I care about is
the
experience and the people I meet.  I don't care and never cared about
the 'scene'.

Folks, the scene is what is killing the scene!  Stop having a scene and
you will be able to have fun again!  Scenes are for normal everyday
reality where you aren't allowed to dance free because it's not socially

acceptable... where you have to walk and talk and dress and move like
everyone else expects you to.

So.. in remembering what freedom feels like.. FUCK YOU!  Fuck your
styles!  Fuck your popularity contest!  Fuck your 'scene'!  Fuck your
stupid cultural terminology!  Fuck your drama!  Fuck your value systems!

Fuck your buzz-words!  Fuck your gossip!  Fuck your judgements!
Fuck you!  I don't want your 'props' or your 'culture' or your 'scene'.
The
way I feel when I am free and the knowledge that I am alive and that I
am loved and that I have the opportunity to love and participate in life

is the only fucking status I need.  The Earth and the Sun and the Stars
are my 'scene'.

... oh and to all the cynics laughing right now... did I mention fuck
you?
did I mention how little I care about you?  just a reminder...

P.S... and yes I was perfectly sober when I wrote this... more sober
than
normal acutally...



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dj funk died sometime last year after richie hawtin killed him.  richie
got sick and tired of mr. funk calling him a "bald headed bitch".  (better
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werd, yo.  mad props to you, you are keeping it real.  that's fuckin 
tight.  need any k?  that girl has herpes.  yo my dude, what time does 
jamalski get on the mic?

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:20:33 -0600, Techno Heaven Len wrote:

>I know I was hyped to go to Menage A Trois (Equilibrium Entertainment)
>Saturday - 15 DJs listed on the flier including some big names. Plus their
>flier said they would have a Casino Room ... an Oxygen Bar ... Video Game
>room ... Gaian Juice Bar!

Believe it or not, they actually pulled it off quite well.


>Their flier said doors open at 10pm.

The new venue is a television studio.  The were shooting
a program live between 8 & 9:30.  The remaining time was
required to tear down the television show's set, and to put
the finishing touches on the party.


>But when I called and the announcement was finally updated with venue
>directions ... it said doors open at 11pm (yet their website still said
>10pm) ...

Who is gonna think about changing their website when they have
to try to put together an event at the last minute ?  Also, I do not
believe the promoters do the maintenance for the web site themselves
(not everyone is as computer savy as some of us).  It's likely something
that couldn't have been done at a moments notice, and they really had
bigger things to worry about.



>and they said they had to move the event to a smaller venue ...
>and from the directions I knew they were in the WYOU building.  You can fit
>maybe 300 people in there (borrowing from a message posted on the Midwest
>Rave Team Message Board).  I would imagine they had sold far more than 300
>presale tickets! Plus where did they put the casino, video games and oxygen
>and gaian juice bar?

I have fit 300+ people into a small loft-style apartment.  WYOU holds much
more than 300 people.  Obviously, not enough to support this kind of event,
but it was the -only- space available.  I would say that there were over 1000
people there.  Probably not many more though.  It was hot, but not unbearable.
It was crowded, but you could still move around with a few "excuse me"s.
All in all - it was packed...but I've been in worse situations - much, much worse.
It didn't really bother me too much.

As for the "extras" - they did have the oxygen bar and the juice bar.  The video
games were supposed to be set up, and they did have a projector for them.
With all the other stuff that needed to be done, the video games were neglected
to be set up until the last minute.  Then I think they just gave up because it
wasn't worth it.  Besides, when you have so little space to work with, you don't
need people standing in the hall playing video games.  I know nothing about
the "casino", but I thought that was kind of a dumb idea anyway.


>And how did they plan to have 15 DJs performing in that small space in just
>8 hours?

Nearly every DJ performed.  Several tag-teamed with other DJs (Miss Hollie/D-On,
Jessie Collins/Elijah).  Some played shorter sets (General Jasha).  The promoters
themselves were supposed to play, and they gave up their slots for the others.
ALL OF THE HEADLINERS PLAYED, including Jazzy Jeff.  This is a fact,
do not believe any rumors (apparently, people at the smaller party were saying
that Jazzy Jeff was a no-show, but this is false).

I thought all of the DJs had excellent sets.  Jazzy Jeff played mostly modern,
commercial Hip-Hop, but he was technically amazing.  Scratching, juggling,
and other tricks...most of the time -without- headphones.  Nearly flawless.
I would have prefered to hear old school Hip-Hop, but for what it was he
is a master of his art.

OS/2 played a wonderful set of trance.  Not exactly "hard", but not progressive.
Just plain "Trance" I suppose.  N20 was also very good.  A little more progressive,
and -very- smooth mixes.  Both of these DJs need to be booked in the midwest
more often. 

Czech played one of the best breaks sets I have heard in a long while.  Funky
at times, acidic at others & great throughout.  You don't get to hear breaks too
much in this area, which I understand, because it can get bland if it's overdone,
(Florida, anyone ?) but his set was a notch above the rest.

Cyberjive had some technical difficulties including skipping needles and someone
unplugging the sound system.  I think it threw him a little.  Overall, not bad, but
not perfect.  Considering the situation it was pretty good.  He played a lot of older
tracks, a few too many for my tastes, but I'm sure it brought back pleasant memories
for many.

All of the local DJs who played were pretty tight.  Hollie & D-On with breaks, Trance
and House...Jessie & Elijah (drum & bass) w/ Adrian & friends on the m.i.c. were n.i.c.e.

General Jasha started out a little rough, but ended up playing a nice 1/2 hour of
old school Hip-Hop after Jazzy Jeff. 

Morse Code finished out the night with some very smooth House.

I'm not sure if Mike Carlson or Adeptus played.  Both were in attendance
and Mike was listed on the time sheet.  It was early in the night and I
was busy programming and running the light show.  With the tight schedule,
I didn't bother to pay attention to who was playing then.

The sound system was clear and sounded great the whole night.
I expected it to be a little louder, based on it's massive size, but it was
still loud enough.

I was very happy with my job on the lighting, but someone else may be
better qualified to comment.  Obviously, we didn't get to do as big of a
show as was intended, considering the reduced size of the venue, but
it was still pretty extensive.  4 Roboscans, 4 moving heads & 4 lasers.
I had some problems with one of the lasers late in the night and ended
up turning it off, and I had 2 strobes that were missing a cable which
I never got to hook up.  Over all it was still the biggest light show
that has ever been done for this venue and worked out really well.

If you were there, what did you think ? =)

Decorations were minimal, I believe due to time constraints, but
were still nice.

Despite being crowded, despite a couple of local DJs that
didn't get to play, and despite the fact that many people
who wanted to attend didn't get to - it was still an awesome
party !  Yes, I know that is a lot of "despite...blah, blah", but
considering the situation they were in, I think they did an
excellent job.  Throwing parties is a lot of work, and as
mentioned in someone's review of "2/12/00", you often
have a lot of things working against you.  You can't always
deliver 100% no matter how hard you try.  Menage A Trois
still delivered 90% (in my opinion).  I think that's acceptable
considering the circumstances.

So...now on to "the circumstances".  What happened ?

Well, as many you you know already, finding a venue is the
hardest part of throwing an event.  The promoters supposedly
had 3 different venues they were considering.  Their first choice
was a dual airplane hanger at the airport.  Offices attached to the
hangers were leased to the promoter, and permission was given
to use the hangers for an event.  At the last minute (actually a 
few days before), the airport decided that an event such as this
was to big of a security risk.  Therefore, they could not use the
venue.  I am not sure what the other 2 venues were or why they
could not be used.  Other venues which typically could be used
were not available due to other scheduled events (Dane Co. Expo, 
Luma Theatre, etc) .  Non-traditional venues which were explored 
either had a lower capacity than the television studio or could
only run until 2:00 am.  Even the television studio didn't want to
do the event !  As of Friday night, there was no venue.  It didn't
look like it would even happen.  Saturday morning, they spoke
with the television studio again, consulted one of the members
of the board of directors (who is rave-friendly) and offered them
a large sum of money.  Although not ideal, at last a venue had
been secured.  The party was on ! =)

The 2nd venue, with the smaller party was arranged Saturday
afternoon so the people who didn't get in could still have something
to do.  It was reasonably priced, and featured talented, although
local DJs.  From what I understand, it was pretty fun (I wasn't there,
so I can't say).  I am unaware any conflict or tension between the people
organizing the smaller event and the promoters of Menage A Trois (as
mentioned in Len's original post).  I believe it was mostly organized
by the guys at Audio Depot, and Ken (the owner) was at Menage A
Trois in the morning helping clean up.  If there was a problem between
the two events, I think I would have heard about it, and I doubt he
would have been there "doing the dirty work".

(by the way, this is the story as I was told.  I can not promise
that it is fact, but it sounds plausible and I believe it.)

One more thing in support of the promoters.  They have been planning
this event for a -very- long time.  I'm not sure exactly how long, but since
November at least.  Everything was running pretty smoothly until the last
week.  Also, they wanted all of the technical crew to set up on Friday
afternoon.  In fact, it was mandated in my contract with them (I have to
struggle with most promoters to get a reasonable amount of time to set
up).  So they do care very much about the production quality of their
events.  They worked hard for months to put this together, almost see it
crumble before their eyes.  They lost a shitload of money too.  Over all, 
they delivered what they promised. Maybe not as grand as hoped, and
maybe a little uncomfortable for some, but their hearts were in the right 
place, and they did what they could.

I think they deserve respect for that.

Over and out...

	Joe


PS: I think this is the longest post I have ever written in 6 years of
MW-Raves history.  Whew ! ;)



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I have resubscribed to hear what people are saying, make contact with
everyone, express our apologies, and drop a little information.

First off :: save your tickets. If you paid but did not have a ticket,
please email me pronto.
We are compiling a list of all who came out so that information may be
mailed out to everyone.

more soon.

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Greets,
	First an introduction:  I have just recently subscribed to
mw-raves for info on the 2.12.00 event.  My name is Chuck and I'm
currently living in Memphis, TN.  I also love the midwest and the vibe I
have felt from it. (more so than here down south ways)  Having said that,
I brought two friends from Memphis with me this last weekend who had never
been blessed with seeing richie perform his magic.  After a long long
drive we finally made it to the venue (late due to the time zone change we
forgot about)  But we did make it in.  We got to hear Jethrox's fantastic
set and were hyped for richie, despite the elbows in my
eyes/ears/ribs.  Anyone who was there knows the rest.  Being
out-of-towners that we were, we ended up wandering aimlessly around in my
car after the break-up and (broke) we thought the after-hours location
would help us.  No such deal, they were herding people out of the club
when we arrived there saying they were going to charge everyone on their
way back inside.  Dejected and in low spirits we made our way to the motel
6 on the other side of the river to lick our wounds.  Sunday we made the
drive back to Memphis in simply horrid driving weather.
	Now here are my questions.  What caused the party to be busted?
(not the minor issue I hope)  We aren't from the area, so I doubt if we'll
be able to easily make it back for a make-up. (if had)  If anyone has info
on these issues please let me know.  Also, I could use the digest editions
for Sunday if anyone hasn't deleted them.  
	
love and respect,
		chuck from memphis

ps  If anyone knows how I can get in touch with Wendy who was involved in
   the promotions at 2.12.00 please let me know.  She was a sweetheart to
   me and my friends.
				


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>Everything was running pretty smoothly until the last
>week.

hey, _that_ doesn't sound familiar!!!  who wants to gather round for a nice 
ole game of FILET THE SPACE OWNER?!?!   :P


>I think they deserve respect for that.

yeah!  except that...where's the hardcore?

>PS: I think this is the longest post I have ever written in 6 years of
>MW-Raves history.  Whew ! ;)

yeah, have a drink mate :P



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in the context of jungle music, this is an oxymoron. 

On Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 10:46:30AM -0500, gregori wrote:
>  Over produced

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louisville.

i flashed rich.

first two toasts of the night were "fuck kentucky" and "huh?!?"

fuck yeah. i dare say i had more fun after this party was busted with all
the mayhem and nekked and drunken tomfoolery than i had being a sardine.
jason and jj, we know your heart was in the right place, sometimes shit
just happens.

thanks for all those who made my night one of konfusion and laughing till
my face fell off. i kiss you!

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Dylan posted something a lil while back about Valentine's Day.. I posted a reply last week but it
never got through.. Here are my revised thoughts..


1. Two of the biggest drinking holidays after NYE follow directly in its wake: Mardi Gras, and St.
Patrick's day. I don't believe in coincidence. Where's my bleedin' Guinness?

2. A comedian I saw once suggested calling it "Nobody Could Possibly Love You day"

3. See also; St. Valentine's Day Massacre. 




                                           thank you, carry on.


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ya know...

on the off-chance that someone will understand this ( i know none of you will 
), i am taking pleasure being single b/c i know that one day i won't be... 
and you have to enjoy it while it allows you to...

or something like that.  i ...have good things to think about.

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 Yay! I'm not the oldest one on the list anymore!

 Shit happens. We've both been doing this long enough to know that. I think you guys knew to take
every reasonable precaution and I'm going to asume you did so. 

 I had one of the best nights I've had in a long time.. One of the best nights I'm likely to have
for a long time to come.. This was the catalyst, and as fucked up as it was, as hard as the
repurcussions are hitting me on a personal level in the aftermath, I wouldn't trade it for the
world. So you're going to make it up to us, that's cool and all but I just wanted to say that I
for one think things happen for a reason. That afterhours was on fire.. Just absolutely aglow, and
it had shit-all to do with a rave, other than the the people. I learned so much this weekend, saw
so much beauty, felt so much good from so many people. Of course I'm saving my ticket, and it's
not because I feel ripped off and want a refund.

It was one of the best parties I never went to. I hope you all can understand that.

I wish i could feel that right now.. These moments are so ephemeral, and so rare. On this (grade A
40-weight concentrated pisser) of a Monday morning, I wish I could reach back and hold onto that
for a moment but right now it feels like I dreamed it all.. Magic is like that.



                                            Thank you,


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Happy Valentines day to all!!

Just wanted to drop a line to all those tuning in to the site...
http://www.faderwars.com
Well as you know the mixes this week are drum and bass and the voting has 
been a little slow, but really close again. As of right now Kia is in the 
lead with 58% of the votes, and Xylok is not too far behind.

Go check out these tight mixes and keep the votes coming!!

I am in the process of updating the interface on the site and therefore, the 
new mixes this week will be postponed a few days, sorry, but you will enjoy 
the site much more when it is done.

later
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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 19:03:16 -0500
From: "Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
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:Anyway, I guess I'm waiting for some sort of apology from Strange Loop
:Productions, because in this day and age, there are things you really
:have to check on like permits, fire codes, and safety. When you book
:Plastikman and don't know how to throw a proper party, it's really shady
:and your fellow ravers get pissed as hell.

hmm. apparently you weren't aware of interstellar dreamfest, which was
thrown by the same collaboration as last night party was, also included
richie hawtin, and is remembered, by myself at least, as the hands down best
party i have ever had the priveledge of attending. don't get me wrong, i
completely understand your anger, but it is generally a good idea to try a
rational approach first. i'm quite positive that if you took a bit of time
to ask, you would get an explanation, perhaps not one your satisfied with,
but you'd get one, nonetheless (a good place to start might be
www.strangeloop.nu )

----------------------------

and ID wasn't shadey? How come 90% of the performers didn't get paid? How
come at 2x1200 they made the same mistakes that they made at Frozen with the
black plastic on the walls, knowing that is what almost got them shutdown
before? How come they couldn't have had Richie play sooner, knowing there
was talk that they might get shut down?

No excuses for this IMO. Give the kids at least a partial refund. That's the
fair thing to do. Why should the entire city of Louisville suffer because of
2 promoters mistakes?

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Well IMO the reason why ID wasn't considered as
"shady" as say previous attempts to throw large
outdoor events like Family Affair was because the
promoters for ID had good intentions and people were
willing to help out no matter what. But a lot of
people were very unhappy when it came down to it
because of how they were treated...which is something
that you probably can't avoid when throwing a large
scale outdoor event. 
HOWEVER...what happened in Louisville was rather
shitty in my opinion. I hope we hear something soon
because I am dying to ask 302930 questions to the
promoters. 

Misha

> and ID wasn't shadey? How come 90% of the performers
> didn't get paid? How
> come at 2x1200 they made the same mistakes that they
> made at Frozen with the
> black plastic on the walls, knowing that is what
> almost got them shutdown
> before? How come they couldn't have had Richie play
> sooner, knowing there
> was talk that they might get shut down?
> 
> No excuses for this IMO. Give the kids at least a
> partial refund. That's the
> fair thing to do. Why should the entire city of
> Louisville suffer because of
> 2 promoters mistakes?
> 
> - Radianation
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> and ID wasn't shadey? How come 90% of the performers didn't get paid? How
> come at 2x1200 they made the same mistakes that they made at Frozen with the
> black plastic on the walls, knowing that is what almost got them shutdown
> before? How come they couldn't have had Richie play sooner, knowing there
> was talk that they might get shut down?

Acutally I do remember that.. Frozen..  I was surprised when I saw the black
plastic at 2/12/00 because of what happened there.  Plastic is one of the
worst things to have in a fire, which is undoubtedly going to piss off the fire

martial to have lots of thin, easily ignitable plastic film everywhere in an
overcrowded building... :P



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>From: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
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>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:24:55 -0800 (PST)

>HOWEVER...what happened in Louisville was rather
>shitty in my opinion. I hope we hear something soon
>because I am dying to ask 302930 questions to the
>promoters.

Well, I have three things to say.

1) If JJ and J-sun ever do an event like this again, I will certainly be 
there again.  Even the best make mistakes and are unlucky.  I repsect them 
and their goals more than any other promoter in the midwest.

2) The only thing I didnt like at the event was when they were getting 
everyone to leave by flat out lying to them... Telling people they would get 
back in, they just had to check everyones IDs.  Why was this neccessary?

3) It was nice seeing a few of the familair faces although Im sorry we didnt 
get much of a chance to chat.  But what would we have talked about 
anyways... :P

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Hi there!  I'm cleaning out my studio and have a few
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>This is really
>beginning to make him think someones to kill him. The shit ain't cute nor 
>is
>it funny. His style of music does not reflect his life outside of raves. 
>Grow up please

ok, if dj funk cant write his own email (which you could forward to us) then 
could you pass this along to him? and i think im prolly the only person who 
will say this to you, but i have a feeling everyone thinks it....
dj funk is flattering himself if he thinks someone wants to kill him, and 
why? only because he is dj funk, spins a very HUMOROUS style of music, 
leading people to believe that he can take a joke...
yeah, it is a JOKE...he has no reason to be alarmed by mw-raves, we may be 
mean sometimes, but generally we are a harmless bunch...
we only do it out of pure love for the fool...
give him a hug and tell him to stop smokin that nasty weed thats making him 
so paranoid! do it for me...
thank you paul!
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>oh YEAH
>
>do you know what the odds are of a fire ever ACTUALLY happening?!?
>
>A MILLION TO ONE!!!

oh yeah, well, except for all the fukked up ravers smoking (various things)
hell, if anyone remembers a party back in i think 96 in bloomington called 
fusion, they may even remember me, actually getting set on fire by one of 
these creatures...a cigarette was halfheartedly tossed to the ground and 
landed in the fold of the bottom of my non ravey pants...sure it was outside 
and i knew to stop drop and roll, but it was dangerous nonetheless, and it 
could easily happen inside of a venue and so on and so on....there are fire 
marshalls for a reason...so the firemen dont have to come out and save our 
asses (or miss a few god forbid)
and, btw, mikey i love you, but were you even there? NO...the place was 
CROWDED, there was no way that the promoters of this weekend's event were 
informed of the correct capacity, they are responsible people in and outside 
the scene, and i have no reason to believe that they would put us or the 
party in danger for the sake of a greasy buck or for any other reason, so 
could everyone PLEASE stop talking about this until a post comes from one of 
them explaining exactly what happened and exactly why the party got shut 
down? i am sure it will be coming shortly...now, i am finishing reading all 
yall's crappy posts and going home...i have a 7 hour drive thank you very 
much...and it was worth every penny, YES i am still in louisville..
fukkerheads...
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ok, first, hi ted! =)

>world. So you're going to make it up to us, that's cool and all but I just 
>wanted to say that I
>for one think things happen for a reason.

now, im quoting micah (satori) and i hope i get it right: not everything 
happens for a reason, but everything has a specific result..

>It was one of the best parties I never went to. I hope you all can 
>understand that.
>

yes, i too feel lucky that i got to see/feel/smell & experience the things i 
did this weekend, and when i get home and gather my thoughts there will be a 
full commentary/review...thank you guys, REALLY...
party at playstation's? im down...
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i'm only 39% bitch?!?  i think it's broken.  =P


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In a message dated 2/14/2000 12:49:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
api@relaymail.net writes:

<< or that, but 2/12/00 had some major problems.  That venue was
 *way* too small for who they booked.  (Yeah, I want to book Paul
 Oakenfold at DV8 in Cincinnati...)  They are obviously a great crew,
 but someone just wasn't thinking about some important things with
 that party.. like checking on city ordinances and getting a venue big
 enough... >>

the space was used because it was their only option at the time. It wasn't 
their first or last choice, but their only choice. Thanks to the big bust 
that was all over the news in Louisville, no space owners wanted to take the 
risk with throwin a rave in their building. Luckily Club X let them do it 
there or there wouldn't have been a party at all. And from what I understood, 
they still looked for other spaces after Club X gave them the okay. So can't 
really blame it on production, cuz you can only play with the cards you were 
dealt, and thanks to some fukkin stupid crackhead ravers, the louisville 
scene is hurt, and now the reputation of louisville is hurt even worse.

still got about 2000 worth of fun out of the party
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In a message dated 2/14/00 12:38:01 PM Central Standard Time, 
dpayer@umich.edu writes:

<< i'm only 39% bitch?!?  i think it's broken.  =P >>


Hey now..  that's better than my 36%...


Jen

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 18:53:18 2000
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i dunno on overall comments of the weekend
ill agree it was the best party i never went to
i had a fuckin wonderful time after the party was over many many interesting 
things aoccured
i love you derek !!!! and i love you too richie !!! (derek tell him thanks 
for the shits and giggles)
and thanks to micah and such for the burritos, lead to many interesting 
experiences later in the evening
was really nice meetin and hangin out with all you guys, matt, jes, jen ted, 
becky, greg, bekka, tim (dont think hes ont he list but still great meeting 
him tell him hi for me mikey and give him my email and loras to)anybosy else 
im sorry just brain not rememeber names right now
now onto weirder things
this morning i wokeup at about 5:00 to the sound of lora gettin in the 
shower, now i dunno what thje girl was doin in there but i do know before i 
fell asleep i could clearly hear her scream "OOOH dot.com!!!"
dunno what that was all about

-that bitch iySyS-

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hahahahaha.......I got a 61%, but I guess that goes without saying...

waiting for my house guest...haha
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 19:12:11 2000
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wierd... im 49% bitch and im a guy

god help me

Brandon

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 19:12:34 2000
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Fire code prohibits the use of black plastic (brand name visqueen) from
being used in any occupied building.

This is national fire code.  If the plastic sheets do catch on fire, they
produce a deadly smoke.

Any rave using this black plastic sheets (visqueen) can be shut down.

It looks cool, but it is deadly and illegal.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 19:14:43 2000
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>oh YEAH
>
>do you know what the odds are of a fire ever ACTUALLY happening?!?
>
>A MILLION TO ONE!!!

maybe so, but the fact of the matter is that if a fire HAD happened at 2x1200, we'd have all been toast.

there were OBVIOUSLY waaaay too many people in that place, and if anything had happend...shit...just look how long it took to get everyone out of the building.

not to mention the fact that the black plastic (commonly known as visqueen) hanging up as decoration releases HIGHLY toxic, thick smoke when burned, and is illegal to hang from the walls (at least in indiana, prolly in ky too).  as much as i love jason & jj, and as much as i admire them for trying to be creative and make the space interesting,  both of them should know better about putting up visqueen (the cops made jason take the stuff down at "frozen" last year).  

i know that jason and jj both are good people, throwing events for the love of the music, but that space was WAAAAy overcrowded, and very obviously over-capacity, no matter WHAT the space owner told them.  i almost didn't leave indy when i heard where the space was going to be.

these guys have thrown amazing events in the past, and i will continue to support them wholeheartedly (and i did have fun, despite...or possibly because of...the chaos), but the fact still remains that the space was a poor choice from the get-go.  sorry guys...you know i still love you!

shiva (who maintains that the hawtin/plaslaiko vodka-soaked naked air hockey match was worth the 2 hour drive)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 19:32:47 2000
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>This is national fire code.  If the plastic sheets do catch on fire, they
>produce a deadly smoke.


I know it isn't rave related, but I just thought you would all like 
to know that my arse occasionally produces a "deadly smoke".

Sorry, work is dull today.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 19:37:07 2000
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63% baby...only 3% of the people that took the test are bitchier than
me...and I bet they are ALL on this list ;p

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 19:41:17 2000
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Wow, I'm a sissy...  Only 21%

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 20:02:22 2000
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HAHA
Old boy fired him
sorry chad

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44%?!?!

There is NO WAY i'm more bitchy then doris ;)~

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 20:30:16 2000
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1.
when the party gets busted and we getta getta get trashed at a hick bar with 
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In a message dated 14/02/00 9:57:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< louisville.
 
 i flashed rich.
  >>
i saw them titties not once
not twice
BUT 3 x
ahahhahah
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Man i wanna see some tities ... people better flash richie in chicago ....
im bringing a camera and extra underwearr fro sure ....
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>
>>oh YEAH
>>
>>do you know what the odds are of a fire ever ACTUALLY happening?!?
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>>A MILLION TO ONE!!!
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oops, i guessthe party was addicted to Love, my bad.
Anyway, the party had its obvious flaws, not enough
room at the space, not enough ventilation and fans (it
was fucking HOT).  And to all the poor saps that had
to wait in line outside, that must have been freekin
nutz, I feel ya pain y0 (or cold whatever the case may
be).
Anyway, played at 11:30 (sorry if ya missed it
anyone), set went alright I guess save the fact that
some girl decided to freeking lean on the turntable,
not the table that was underneath the 1200s mind you,
BUT ON THE FUCKING TABLE ITSELF, now kids I apreciate
the fact that you all are really interested in what I
do, and or want to say hi, or just need to chill and
check the dj or whatever, BUT DONT LEAN ON THE
TABLES!!!!!!!, first of all the obvious reprocussion
is you stoped the set and pissed off the dj, but the
less obvious is...1. you could have scratched the
record (which in this case was detroit blues, and I
woulda been extremely pissed if it woulda gotten
fucked up) 2. could have broken the needle which would
have stoped the entire music in that room if their was
no replacement at the party and 3. could have fucked
up the tone arm which the only thing to do would have
been to find another table.
To the girl who did it, I'm sorry I scared the shit
outa you, I know you were just their to see me play
which i apreciate, but PLEASE BE CAREFULL.
Anyway, also the sound in the first room really bled
into the second room badly which made one track that I
played kinda worthless, oh well enough bitching.
The rest of the party was kinda fun.
Hung out with Dan Xanthos behind the Massive stand and
had a fucking hoot with him.
Had AC peg/hump me a few times.
RAWKED out to Nanos, and A "hit me with it one more
time"C
saw Dyllon again, which btw has a striking resemblence
to dimebag daryll of pantera with that cowboy hat on.
Didn't hear anyone in the main room, sorry, I aint
gonna push through a crowd of sweaty nasty ravers
ewwww.
Anyway, all in all, it was good, it sucked, all in one
little ball.
signed
Jon "Sorry, I didn't bring any house" Gotti

and now for the moment you all been waiting for...




the quotes

real raver said this one
"I'm soooo messed up, I just took 5 rolls, and 3
dicas, and so I can go to sleep when I get home I got
me some K"
my response
"holy fucking shit!!!"
"CARLO!!"
"everyone one in tha place say FUCK HOUSE MUSIC!!!"
"here ya go buddy, you'll like this one", as I hand a
Mark N tape to some kid who just bought a whole stack
of trance/house tapes.
OK, thats it for now
peace
happy aniversary SOL, not bad.
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Yep, i had dica three times the other day. wait! was i supposed to say
that in public? sorry dica, the kids gotta know!
-choppie
what the hell are dicas? for real. maybe the kid meant "pizza" and got his
p's and z's all screwy. "I'm sooo messed up, I just took 5 rolls (bread?)
and three pizzas. . " i guess in this perspective, the kid probably just
had a really bad stomach flu. 
 

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> the quotes
> 
> real raver said this one
> "I'm soooo messed up, I just took 5 rolls, and 3
> dicas, and so I can go to sleep when I get home I got
> me some K"
> my response
> "holy fucking shit!!!"
> "CARLO!!"
> "everyone one in tha place say FUCK HOUSE MUSIC!!!"
> "here ya go buddy, you'll like this one", as I hand a
> Mark N tape to some kid who just bought a whole stack
> of trance/house tapes.
> OK, thats it for now
> peace
> happy aniversary SOL, not bad.
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some crackhead: Dood.  Where's the bathroom at? I need to go take care
of some business.
Randy (subsonik): I dont know and I dont wanna know about it!
Crackhead: Dood! You dont understand!  I've gotta go beat off!!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 14 22:47:20 2000
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Grant wrote:

> some crackhead: Dood.  Where's the bathroom at? I need to go take care
> of some business.
> Randy (subsonik): I dont know and I dont wanna know about it!
> Crackhead: Dood! You dont understand!  I've gotta go beat off!!

That's almost as bad as this party I was at in Dayton a long
time ago called The Basement.

There was this kid in the bathroom who looked like he was
on tons of meth and acid and who knows what else... he was
running around yelling "Git yer pants down!!!"  "Come on!!!
I need somethin' ta fuck!!!"  and of course the best one...
"Gimme a coochie or gimme a hoe!!!"  Then he pulls his
pants down and runs around with this little tiny shriveled up
penis flopping up and down, running up to people and flopping
his little penis in their faces.. he runs up to this kid who's just
sitting there by himself and flops his penis in his face and yells
"Git yer pants down!!!"  The kid starts yelling "Oh my god!!!
I'm having a bad trip!!!  Everyone's out to get me!!!"  The
security comes in and drags off the crazy kid (the one with his
pants down) and he yells "Y'all are a bunch of breeders!!!"

Those wacky crachkeads!  :)

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(see message below mine)

This may seem negative but it is concerning the much talked of event.  I do 
trust that Club X was the best venue in Louisville available but still...a 
very difficult situation.

(and I wont second guess jj and j-sun's decision.  I am sure it is as good 
as any I would have made).

And on another note, I am glad so many of you had a rocking good time with 
mister hawtin.  Just realize that you are in the minority.  Most of us were 
dejected after not having heard the dj we travelled 3+ hours to see and 
instead had to be content with an early sleep.

maybe a little jealous,
adam

>From: XXXXXXX <XXXXXX@XXXX.XXX.purdue.edu>
>To: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [pur] Fwd: [mw] re-hi from j2 (one of those responsible for 
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>
>
>Adam Meadows wrote:
>
> > this concerns a few of you...
>
>Hmmm...thanks.  Interesting bit for you:  I called the Louisville Fire
>Marshall, Lt. Col. Donald Cummins his own damn se'f.  Guess what the max.
>cap of Club X is according to him.  212.  Yep, they oversold the venue by
>almost 400%.  They were begging to have their own party shut down.  That
>bullshit about making the minors go home would never have solved the
>problem anyway.  We were done as soon as the fire marshall showed up.  The
>consolation prize better be good.
>
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true
(cus if I said false, I'd have to write the reason why
its false)
signed 
Jon "use 5th grade logic" Gotti

--- chopstiks <mkhemma@orion.it.luc.edu> wrote:
> Yep, i had dica three times the other day. wait! was
> i supposed to say
> that in public? sorry dica, the kids gotta know!
> -choppie
> what the hell are dicas? for real. maybe the kid
> meant "pizza" and got his
> p's and z's all screwy. "I'm sooo messed up, I just
> took 5 rolls (bread?)
> and three pizzas. . " i guess in this perspective,
> the kid probably just
> had a really bad stomach flu. 
>  
> 
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> 
> > the quotes
> > 
> > real raver said this one
> > "I'm soooo messed up, I just took 5 rolls, and 3
> > dicas, and so I can go to sleep when I get home I
> got
> > me some K"
> > my response
> > "holy fucking shit!!!"
> > "CARLO!!"
> > "everyone one in tha place say FUCK HOUSE
> MUSIC!!!"
> > "here ya go buddy, you'll like this one", as I
> hand a
> > Mark N tape to some kid who just bought a whole
> stack
> > of trance/house tapes.
> > OK, thats it for now
> > peace
> > happy aniversary SOL, not bad.
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> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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> 
> Hey now..  that's better than my 36%...
> 

47% bitch.  awwwjeah*

peace
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Theorem vs. Swayzak, "A Day From Hell" b/w "Interstate"

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friday 2.18.00 in Cincinnati
Sequence Ver. 1.0  

only $5  --- 10pm-6am!!! 

Sequence is an underground dance music event featuring:

-Perry 'Paris' Ellis.
In a bangin' house performance.
Dirty Loop, Soiree, 3 to 5, Subsonik, Skydata - Cincinnati. Perry is a veteran of the techs and will bang out any floor with a range of sound from the finest house to most upfront techno. And as a producer, Perry's records are blowing up floors world wide. Check out his new e.p. on 3 to 5 called "Nighttime People."

-Naugtigroove
Scrubbing Bubbles - Cincinnati. Jason continues to be a midwest favorite. Over the past two years, following his return from Europe, Nautigroove developed a cult-like following. Jason continues to move crowds with his blissfull mix of trance and breaks.

-Spirit
The technoligist - Cincinnati. A.J. is by far one of the most talented techno dj's in the midwest. His abiltiy to mix and control soundscapes and techno patterns is not to be overlooked. Come see why we are so bold in saying that he is one of the most impressive dj's around.

-Adam Jensen
Subsonik - Cincinnati/Chicago. originally from Chicago, now residing in the 513, Adam is gaining a lot of attention at our events. Come see his slamming blend of techno and funk.

-Brian Drabant
Xminus1 - Cincinnati. Brian spent 6 months playing in Germany at techno clubs and one off raves throughout the country. His style is infiltrated with everything from old school tracks to chicago house and hard techno.

-React
Subsonik Productions CEO - Cincinnati. React is a techno advocate dedicated to promoting the sound within our scene. His sets are intense and structure for the dancefloor. Come hear the finest sounds that techno has to offer.

-Headstrong
Ruffdrapht, Subsonik - Cincinnati. Headstrong is gaining a huge amount of attention for his skills. His new mix tape, "the program" is getting him numberous bookings as each week goes by. Come witness the current state of drum & bass as seen from texas to new york city.

-Spahn
The latest subsonik addition and damn fine one at that. This drum & bass dj's smooth mixing a dark track selection will step up any floor and rock the party.

Clean, legal space that is ours do as we wish. Please treat this space as if it were our home or yours.

Sound: Cerwin Vega bass bins and high packs. Minimal lighting in an underground atmosphere. Music starts at 10pm and stops at 6am... and only a $5 admission. So please, come out and support our underground while we still have one.

For directions call 513.682.3282 or 513.956.9600

Sequence is brought to you by Subsonik Productions
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and remember, 

the next Floorplan (04) is on Friday March 10th. Featuring Jay Goodwill, Derrick Thompson, Robert Curcio, Troll & MC Firecat, Shiva, Spirt, Brian Drabant, and Spahn. 

Floorplan 05 is on Friday March 24th with
Kikoman, Perry Ellis, Derek Plaslaiko, Matt Bandy, Robert Curcio, Adam Jensen, React, and Headstrong.


**and Future Teknology 2! Saturday July 29th Cincinnati.
A full scale, all headliner event featuring talent from Europe and North America. More in T.B.A.

check with the web site and info-line for more info.


















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are there tickets still available for the party on the 19th?

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I just realized something tonight...  I haven't been going to parties
much lately because I've gotten so sickened by the fact that the midwest
scene, especially around my area (Cincinnati) has become such a
drama/ego fest and I don't feel like I have (or want) any place in it...


      Amen.  I haven't gone to a party since the Pimp party at the Rainbo=
w
Rink on Clark Street...in the summer of 99.  I to have grown sick of the =
egos'
and insignificance.  It's almost as if people have forgotten why they "Ra=
ve"
to use a really played out word.  I remember at that party, I was waiting=
 for
my friends outside at like 8 in the morn and this chick slams into me wit=
h her
boyfriend and didn't even say excuse me.  I just turned around and looked=
 at
her cause she caught me off guard.  I said excuse me to her, but she said=

something, "God Why don't you fuckin' Move!"  Right then and there I knew=
 shit
would never be the same.  Your right the Egos, the attitudes all suck and=
 it
seems Chicago's reputation for "live ass music" and a good scene  has gon=
e
down.  People loath Chicago parties....i'm sure you heard about D-Day...o=
n
Halloween, what a fuckin' disgrace that was...I almost went to until I go=
t a
gut feeling to stay home.


I danced for a good hour or so.. at least it seemed like that long.. and =
I
remembered how much I miss what that feels like. There is nothing else li=
ke
it.  For me it is mind altering.. I don't need
any drugs.. just the act of moving freely like that awakens and
heightens parts of my mind that normally lie only partially awake.   It i=
s
freedom, the most absolute feeling of freedom that can possibly exist.  I=
t is
the nearest any human being can come to experiencing heaven on Earth.

    Amen again Brotha!  I dance in my house if i'm playing around with my=

tables or in the elevator at work.  Dancing is the best feeling in the en=
tire
world.  And yes, I agree, you tap into parts of your mind body and soul t=
hat
you normally don't use in everyday life.  Just like the songs says...it's=
 a
spirtual thang..a body thang..a soul thang...a soul thang.  The one thing=
 I
did notice though with Chicago parties, is that the vibe has been drained=
=2E  No
one dances anymore.  It seems the only thing to do is go and get fucked u=
p and
sit on the floor all fucked up.  That is not fun and it blows my vibe whe=
n i
see such.  I like to feed off of the people around me.  If the party is
kickin' and everyone is paying the DJ the highest Respect by dancing then=
=2E...I
go off.  But as your subject says, "I  MISS DANCING", I MEAN REALLy miss =
it. =

And when i say dancing i mean at a party just having a good time..feeling=
 the
bass of that speaker tear down the barriers of stress that work, school a=
nd
everyday life seem to build around us.  Dood..i want to go to a party
soon..and dance till my cloths are soppin' wet and every muscle in my bod=
y
feels like jello.  I remember feeling like that fresh, soph, and junior y=
ear
in college..but I haven't felt that in a long time.


Why am I the only person who feels this way?  Why is it that this is
what I consider important and not all the stupid egos or who is more
'rave' than who or who has higher status in the 'scene' than who?  I
could care less about the 'scene'.  To me the scene only existed as a
place where people could gather to experience something.  Now
nobody cares about the experience anymore... they are only focused
on all the stupid drama surrounding it.

  Preach on...Prech on...That's what i'm talking about.  When i say the s=
cene
i mean the vibe though.  Not the insignificance of status et. al.  I used=
 to
feel at home when i went to parties, but one day it seemed...to get all
phucked up.  I know things change..i know this, but it seems not only has=
 it
changed, but the building blocks that founded it have been thrown out.


Wake up people!  If you want drama.. if you want popularity contests...
if you want ego-fests or a place to show how cool you are, these things
can be found in normal average everyday life!  That's what normal life
is!  It is the drama and the egos and the popularity contests that make
life on Earth suck so bad!  Raves, like ceremonies and festivals and
religions and all the other methods of creating 'Temporary Autonomous
Zones' =


   WERD...i did a field Research study and I'm all about the TAZ....a pla=
ce of
no outside authority.  It is self-governing and usually...raves are the
epitomy of a TAZ...until recently.




Lately I've felt like I'm not welcome here because all I care about is
the experience and the people I meet.  I don't care and never cared about=

the 'scene'.   =



WERD..to that to.  We shouldn't feel unwelcomed in our own homes.  You kn=
ow? =

Just goes to show you all that PLUR shit was fucked up to begin with.  I =
think
if everyone respected one another like we're suppose to, none of this shi=
t
would even be being discussed right now.  We need to learn to respect  ea=
ch
other as well as our selves.  And your right..enough of the judgmental b.=
s,
enough of bad attitudes, enough of all the negative shit....it's time for=
 a
change....make a change fantanstic--"Nearly God-TrickY"



Folks, the scene is what is killing the scene!  Stop having a scene and
you will be able to have fun again!  Scenes are for normal everyday
reality where you aren't allowed to dance free because it's not socially
acceptable... where you have to walk and talk and dress and move like
everyone else expects you to.

Yup..just look at the kids how are gettin'g waaaay to fucked up..and seri=
ously
injuring themselves.  No respect for themselves..and then the media gets =
a
hold of it...and blames it on parties...come on people...RESPECT YO SELF =
:p
AND FROM THERE YOU'LL RESPECT OTHERS





=2E. FUCK YOU!  Fuck your styles!  Fuck your popularity contest!  Fuck yo=
ur
'scene'!  Fuck your stupid cultural terminology!  Fuck your drama!  Fuck =
your
value systems! Fuck your buzz-words!  Fuck your gossip!  Fuck your judgem=
ents!
Fuck you!  I don't want your 'props' or your 'culture' or your 'scene'.  =
=2E..
oh and to all the cynics laughing right now... did I mention fuck you? di=
d I
mention how little I care about you?  just a reminder...

            Whoa. down boy..FIRE N BRIMSTONE..FIRE N BRIMSTONE....hahaaa
   I realize you are pissed, but we must remember RESPECT IS key...in
everything...even to the  "cynics" you speak of.  I feel your pain kiddo.=
=2EI
think your just pissed is all. :)


Theway I feel when I am free and the knowledge that I am alive and that I=

am loved and that I have the opportunity to love and participate in life
is the only fucking status I need.  The Earth and the Sun and the Stars
are my 'scene'.

    AMEN BROTHA...SHIT..you have convinced me to get my ass back out ther=
e and
dance...and I think the party with DJ Funk....will be my debut of the
Millennium....  Again, i agree with what you said and the opinions that I=

voiced are just my opinions.  I don't have answers as to how to make
everything cool, or change the scene, all I do know is that Shit ain't
right.....but I sense a stage of Rebirth coming on.

o.k...I'm done...this is the most I have ever said in a looooong time..


Fuego
:P

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>Yep, i had dica three times the other day. wait! was i supposed to say
>that in public? sorry dica, the kids gotta know!

damn, that was quite a night.  i still can't believe you fit the WHOLE 
garden hose in there!

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Subject: Re: [[mw] Re: fwd: bitch test]
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yeah...well..i'm 35% bitch...oh well

Fuego :P


doris <dpayer@umich.edu> wrote:

i'm only 39% bitch?!?  i think it's broken.  =3DP


> > http://test3.thespark.com/bitchtest/


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Hmm... Now, that wouldn't be Opus 3's "A Fine Day", would it? That one goes
like this...

<lyrics>
It's a fine day
people @ their windows / people of the winter (Not sure which one)
They leave their (arms / hope) there
just for a short while

<chorus>
It's going to be a fine night tonight
It's going to be a fine day tomorrow
</chorus>
</lyrics>

Ahh, Kristy Hackshaw, such beautiful vocals... If this song sounds familiar,
it's because Orbital used the vocals from this song to create Halcyon. God I
love the song...

-Luminescent

>i am listening to this mix as i type... female vocals: "its a fine day,
>people of the winter.."
>
>it is the dj spyhunter melodic trance set on hyperreal:
>
>djsets.hyperreal.org/listen.cgi?listen_to=19990000!SPYHUNTER!02.rm
>
>
>
>peace-
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TITTIES!


>From: jes <jes@pubnix.org>
>Reply-To: jes <jes@pubnix.org>
>To: midwest bullshit <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: [mw] ass and titties
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:57:10 -0500 (EST)
>
>
>
>louisville.
>
>i flashed rich.
>
>first two toasts of the night were "fuck kentucky" and "huh?!?"
>
>fuck yeah. i dare say i had more fun after this party was busted with all
>the mayhem and nekked and drunken tomfoolery than i had being a sardine.
>jason and jj, we know your heart was in the right place, sometimes shit
>just happens.
>
>thanks for all those who made my night one of konfusion and laughing till
>my face fell off. i kiss you!
>
>/j
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and i am PSYCHED, cuz thx1 was SO DAMN AWESOME.

m

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>From JJ

>>>>>>>>

we put it in that club because it is the only legal,
permitted venue in
the city that would have
us. it has had 1500 people regularly, at various
parties throughout the
past year. because of
media coverage about 'drugs and ravers' no non-club
venue was possible -
the story
headlined the news in louisville two weeks ago , and
no other venue
would have survived
even starting  up.

we did our best in a shitty situation. we are not
shady motherfuckers
who are going to run
off with everyone's money.

please tell everyone who wishes to directly contact us
to please do so.

please tell everyone with tickets to save them, and
either email or
snailmail us their full
names, addresses, emails, and to spread the word to
others to do the
same.

please tell those who paid cash at the door but did
not get a ticket to
email this address, or
write to:

untranslatable co.
960 B Baxter Ave
louisville KY 40204

we will contact everyone
when scheduling allows richie and us and you to
accomplish what we all
set out to do. I do know that whatever
happens, I will try my damnedest to make things right.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 02:54:39 2000
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ok sorry now i realize i hadnt

OK EVERYONE IT WAS ALSO NICE MEETING DORIS !!!! EVERYONE HEAR THAT ??

happy doris ?? :-)

love ya grrrl

-that bitch iySyS-

>From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
>To: - iySyS- <baronessk@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [mw] re-hi from j2 (one of those responsible for 2x12.00)
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:21:00 -0500 (EST)
>
> > hey i had already met yo ass hadnt i ???
>
>when??
>
>
>
> > i was only sayin the people i had never met before
> > its ok though i did forget chad and he was still here
> >
> > -bitch-
> >
> >
> > >From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
> > >To: - iySyS- <baronessk@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] re-hi from j2 (one of those responsible for 2x12.00)
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> > >
> > > > was really nice meetin and hangin out with all you guys, matt, jes, 
>jen
> > >ted,
> > > > becky, greg, bekka, tim (dont think hes ont he list but still great
> > >meeting
> > > > him tell him hi for me mikey and give him my email and loras 
>to)anybosy
> > >else
> > > > im sorry just brain not rememeber names right now
> > > > now onto weirder things
> > >
> > >
> > >!!!!
> > >
> > >you bitch!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 02:56:34 2000
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damn...thats really fucking nice...the smooth get smoother...

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
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In a message dated 2/14/0 5:43:44 AM, michael wrote:

<<damn, stevie.  shut the fuck up you puking snoring chinese 
thirty-five-year-old son of a bitch!>>

hey, you forgot farting, burpin, & nose pickin...you neon
anal american cheese 15 year old mac'in flamer!!!

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oh shiiiiit, looks like we got some contenders to
oust becky for mw-raves queen bitch!!...

hey, where's the dick test for me, jon gotti, & michael?






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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 03:24:30 2000
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 Someone made my day today and I want you all to meet him/it.

 His name is Applebear.



 http://www.morningnargle.com/jerf/applebear.html




 See the sadness and determination in his eyes. Feel the weight of his struggle.

 What is he running from? Where is he running to? 

 We may never know. I only hope he makes it.. Because I know he will never give up.

 Keep runnin, little guy! You miserable pink fucker! You tragi-comic farce of a thing! KEEP
RUNNING APPLE BEAR! GODSPEED TO YOU!
 
"he had a big adventure.. amidst the grass, clean air at last."
   
no, i haven't been drinking. heartless bastards. ;p



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 05:02:16 2000
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my question is what happened to his nose ????
why doesnt he have one ????

-that bitch iySyS-



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 05:17:34 2000
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I don't know if I was the only one thinking this, but black 
plastic......vinyl....records.  DAMNIT now I have to switch to cd's!!!!!!  I 
could see a cop pulling that on someone "Um excuse me your going to have to 
get that black plastic out of this party or I'll shut it down"  haha

Casey

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damnit... why do i always miss all the fun.


>>louisville.
>>
>>i flashed rich.
>>
>>first two toasts of the night were "fuck kentucky" and "huh?!?"
>>
>>fuck yeah. i dare say i had more fun after this party was busted with all
>>the mayhem and nekked and drunken tomfoolery than i had being a sardine.
>>jason and jj, we know your heart was in the right place, sometimes shit
>>just happens.
>>
>>thanks for all those who made my night one of konfusion and laughing till
>>my face fell off. i kiss you!

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Storm Fuego wrote:

> .. FUCK YOU!  Fuck your styles!  Fuck your popularity contest!  Fuck your
> 'scene'!  Fuck your stupid cultural terminology!  Fuck your drama!  Fuck your
> value systems! Fuck your buzz-words!  Fuck your gossip!  Fuck your judgements!
> Fuck you!  I don't want your 'props' or your 'culture' or your 'scene'.  ...
> oh and to all the cynics laughing right now... did I mention fuck you? did I
> mention how little I care about you?  just a reminder...
>
>             Whoa. down boy..FIRE N BRIMSTONE..FIRE N BRIMSTONE....hahaaa
>    I realize you are pissed, but we must remember RESPECT IS key...in
> everything...even to the  "cynics" you speak of.  I feel your pain kiddo..I
> think your just pissed is all. :)

Hehe.. I tend to rant when I'm sleep deprived, that's all...

(That message was posted at 3am after I'd been awake since 10am)

I also have a tendancy towards what some might call 'moralistic' rants
and tend to feel very strongly about certain things.  People like me
start wars and revolutions and crusades and uprisings and stuff... we're
dangerous!  I'm actually very nice in person though... just don't give me
an opportunity or I'll try to re-engineer the entire universe.  :-)



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ok i'll spare you guys the effort.

"i know you are but what am i!"

"oh yeah well my dad can beat up yours!"

"oh yeah well i'll graduate 4th grade before you!"

"don't make me tell the teacher!  she'll put you in a time-out!"

"hey let's make up and play the cooties game with the girls."


there.

both of you can shut up now. 


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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 2/14/0 5:43:44 AM, michael wrote:
> 
> <<damn, stevie.  shut the fuck up you puking snoring chinese 
> thirty-five-year-old son of a bitch!>>
> 
> hey, you forgot farting, burpin, & nose pickin...you neon
> anal american cheese 15 year old mac'in flamer!!!
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Who on this list is from Minnesota other than myself?

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Wow - Thanks Joe for your record setting long EMail on Menage A Trois! (and
thanks to all the others who sent me their views on it privately, I
appreciate it - and note that someone else is going to write up a full
review of Run Off which I will put up in TechnoHeaven - maybe Joe will let
us include his review as well ... if anyone else has comments or views on
Menage A Trois or Run Off feel free to send a private EMail to me).

It is good to get several viewpoints on these kind of situations - and find
out that they might not be as bad as first impression might lead you to
believe!

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
Madison-Milwaukee Events, Clubs, Stores, Resources:
http://www.technoheaven.com/madison-milwaukee.htm

----- Original Message -----
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> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:20:33 -0600, Techno Heaven Len wrote:
>
> >I know I was hyped to go to Menage A Trois (Equilibrium Entertainment)
> >Saturday - 15 DJs listed on the flier including some big names. Plus
their
> >flier said they would have a Casino Room ... an Oxygen Bar ... Video Game
> >room ... Gaian Juice Bar!
>
> Believe it or not, they actually pulled it off quite well.

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friday 2.18.00 in Cincinnati 
Sequence Ver. 1.0 

only $5  --- 10pm-6am!!! 

Sequence is an underground dance music event featuring: 

-Perry 'Paris' Ellis. 
In a bangin' house performance. 
Dirty Loop, Soiree, 3 to 5, Subsonik, Skydata - Cincinnati. Perry is a veteran of the techs and will bang out
any floor with a range of sound from the finest house to most upfront techno. And as a producer, Perry's
records are blowing up floors world wide. Check out his new e.p. on 3 to 5 called "Nighttime People." 

-Naugtigroove 
Scrubbing Bubbles - Cincinnati. Jason continues to be a midwest favorite. Over the past two years, following
his return from Europe, Nautigroove developed a cult-like following. Jason continues to move crowds with his
blissfull mix of trance and breaks. 

-Spirit 
The technoligist - Cincinnati. A.J. is by far one of the most talented techno dj's in the midwest. His abiltiy to
mix and control soundscapes and techno patterns is not to be overlooked. Come see why we are so bold in
saying that he is one of the most impressive dj's around. 

-Adam Jensen 
Subsonik - Cincinnati/Chicago. originally from Chicago, now residing in the 513, Adam is gaining a lot of
attention at our events. Come see his slamming blend of techno and funk. 

-Brian Drabant 
Xminus1 - Cincinnati. Brian spent 6 months playing in Germany at techno clubs and one off raves throughout
the country. His style is infiltrated with everything from old school tracks to chicago house and hard techno. 

-React 
Subsonik Productions CEO - Cincinnati. React is a techno advocate dedicated to promoting the sound within
our scene. His sets are intense and structure for the dancefloor. Come hear the finest sounds that techno has to offer. 

-Headstrong 
Ruffdrapht, Subsonik - Cincinnati. Headstrong is gaining a huge amount of attention for his skills. His new mix
tape, "the program" is getting him numberous bookings as each week goes by. Come witness the current state
of drum & bass as seen from texas to new york city. 

-Spahn 
The latest subsonik addition and damn fine one at that. This drum & bass dj's smooth mixing a dark track
selection will step up any floor and rock the party. 

Clean, legal space that is ours do as we wish. Please treat this space as if it were our home or yours. 

Sound: Cerwin Vega bass bins and high packs. Minimal lighting in an underground atmosphere. Music starts at
10pm and stops at 6am... and only a $5 admission. So please, come out and support our underground while we
still have it. 

For directions call 513.682.3282 or 513.956.9600 

Sequence is brought to you by Subsonik Productions 
for more information on subsonik events, please visit us at http://subsonik.linenoiz.com or call our info line at
513.682.3282 

****************************** 

and remember, 

the next Floorplan (04) is on Friday March 10th. Featuring Jay Goodwill, Derrick Thompson, Robert Curcio,
Troll & MC Firecat, Shiva, Spirt, Brian Drabant, and Spahn. 

Floorplan 05 is on Friday March 24th with 
Kikoman, Perry Ellis, Derek Plaslaiko, Matt Bandy, Robert Curcio, Adam Jensen, React, and Headstrong. 
  

**and Future Teknology 2! Saturday July 29th Cincinnati. 
A full scale, all headliner event featuring talent from Europe and North America. More in T.B.A. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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friday 2.18.00 in Cincinnati 
Sequence Ver. 1.0 

only $5  --- 10pm-6am!!! 

Sequence is an underground dance music event featuring: 

-Perry 'Paris' Ellis. 
In a bangin' house performance. 
Dirty Loop, Soiree, 3 to 5, Subsonik, Skydata - Cincinnati. Perry is a veteran of the techs and will bang out
any floor with a range of sound from the finest house to most upfront techno. And as a producer, Perry's
records are blowing up floors world wide. Check out his new e.p. on 3 to 5 called "Nighttime People." 

-Naugtigroove 
Scrubbing Bubbles - Cincinnati. Jason continues to be a midwest favorite. Over the past two years, following
his return from Europe, Nautigroove developed a cult-like following. Jason continues to move crowds with his
blissfull mix of trance and breaks. 

-Spirit 
The technoligist - Cincinnati. A.J. is by far one of the most talented techno dj's in the midwest. His abiltiy to
mix and control soundscapes and techno patterns is not to be overlooked. Come see why we are so bold in
saying that he is one of the most impressive dj's around. 

-Adam Jensen 
Subsonik - Cincinnati/Chicago. originally from Chicago, now residing in the 513, Adam is gaining a lot of
attention at our events. Come see his slamming blend of techno and funk. 

-Brian Drabant 
Xminus1 - Cincinnati. Brian spent 6 months playing in Germany at techno clubs and one off raves throughout
the country. His style is infiltrated with everything from old school tracks to chicago house and hard techno. 

-React 
Subsonik Productions CEO - Cincinnati. React is a techno advocate dedicated to promoting the sound within
our scene. His sets are intense and structure for the dancefloor. Come hear the finest sounds that techno has to
offer. 

-Headstrong 
Ruffdrapht, Subsonik - Cincinnati. Headstrong is gaining a huge amount of attention for his skills. His new mix
tape, "the program" is getting him numberous bookings as each week goes by. Come witness the current state
of drum & bass as seen from texas to new york city. 

-Spahn 
The latest subsonik addition and damn fine one at that. This drum & bass dj's smooth mixing a dark track
selection will step up any floor and rock the party. 

Clean, legal space that is ours do as we wish. Please treat this space as if it were our home or yours. 

Sound: Cerwin Vega bass bins and high packs. Minimal lighting in an underground atmosphere. Music starts at
10pm and stops at 6am... and only a $5 admission. So please, come out and support our underground while we
still have it. 

For directions call 513.682.3282 or 513.956.9600 

Sequence is brought to you by Subsonik Productions 
for more information on subsonik events, please visit us at http://subsonik.linenoiz.com or call our info line at
513.682.3282 

****************************** 

and remember, 

the next Floorplan (04) is on Friday March 10th. Featuring Jay Goodwill, Derrick Thompson, Robert Curcio,
Troll & MC Firecat, Shiva, Spirt, Brian Drabant, and Spahn. 

Floorplan 05 is on Friday March 24th with 
Kikoman, Perry Ellis, Derek Plaslaiko, Matt Bandy, Robert Curcio, Adam Jensen, React, and Headstrong. 
  

**and Future Teknology 2! Saturday July 29th Cincinnati. 
A full scale, all headliner event featuring talent from Europe and North America. More in T.B.A. 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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Damn, the PC-200mkII, PG-1000 and Monitor Ones are
already sold!  Here's what's left:

Mackie CR-1604 16-channel mixer
Very good condition. Comes with power cord.
Rack ears attached.
$400 + $25 shipping

Kawai XD-5 Drum Synth
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Samson 260 Watt Servo Amp
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paperwork!
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Buyer prepays. Ship to US only.

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i'm sick of hearing all these people on this message shit bitching about 
everything. ok i can see ya bitching about how lame a party was but can't we 
all just suck it up and party on??? I WANT TO PARTY IN PEACE!!!

beijos

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In a message dated 2/15/00 12:10:59 AM Central Standard Time, 
DJDolorem@aol.com writes:

<< Who on this list is from Minnesota other than myself? >>

I'm in the sticks..  but I'm in Minnesota.

(Aspiring a move very soon though!)

Jen

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Speaking of the whole dancing thing... I heard a ~beautiful~ quote on the
way back from 2 1200.
A kid who works with me said this:  "Everyone wants to be a dj, I dont want
to be a dj.  I just want to be the best dancer, I can be"





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why do eighties songs always manage to make it to the happyhardcore remix 
section?

its approaching late and i have a paper to write...and i am procrastinating

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>now onto weirder things
>this morning i wokeup at about 5:00 to the sound of lora gettin in the 
>shower, now i dunno what thje girl was doin in there but i do know before i 
>fell asleep i could clearly hear her scream "OOOH dot.com!!!"
>dunno what that was all about

ok, so i think its time i tell you all....i am madly in lust with super star 
trance dj .com
he IS my daddy...
snoochie boochies!
laura
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I'm from this god forsaken place too. (Minnesota)


>From: DJDolorem@aol.com
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>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 00:39:57 EST
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>Who on this list is from Minnesota other than myself?
>
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Ignatius J. Reilly wrote:
>  Someone made my day today and I want you all to meet him/it.
>  His name is Applebear.
>  http://www.morningnargle.com/jerf/applebear.html

But Jeff makes even better animations!  For example:

http://www.morningnargle.com/jerf/dangles
http://www.morningnargle.com/jerf/planet

Or check out his electro side project (he normally does IDM), Mantenna:

http://www.morningnargle.com/mantenna

Damn I love that guy!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 06:33:09 2000
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i a sure it is all a crock but i rather like # 3...  just a thought

> >>A few thoughts to get 2000 started.
> >>
> >>THE FOLLOWING IS TAKEN FROM A NEPALESE GOOD
> >>LUCK MANTRA.
> >>
> >>YOU'LL FIND IT TO BE WORTH READING AND WORTH
> >>SHARING:
> >>
> >>Do not keep this message.
> >>The mantra must leave your hands within 96 hours.
> >>You
> >>will get a very pleasant surprise.  This is true,
> >>even
> >>if you are not superstitious.
> >>
> >>I N S T R U C T I O N S  F O R  L I F E
> >>
> >> 1. Take into account that great love and great
> >> achievements involve  great risk.
> >>
> >> 2. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
> >>
> >> 3. Follow the three R's:
> >>    Respect for self
> >>    Respect for others and
> >>    Responsibility for all your actions.
> >>
> >> 4. Remember that not getting what you want is
> >> sometimes a wonderful stroke of luck.
> >>
> >> 5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them
> >> properly.
> >>
> >> 6. Don't let a little dispute injure a great
> >> friendship.
> >>
> >> 7. When you realize you've made a mistake, take
> >> immediate steps to correct it.
> >>
> >> 8. Spend some time alone.
> >>
> >> 9. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of
> >> your values.
> >>
> >> 10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best
> >> answer.
> >>
> >> 11. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get
> >> older and  think back, you'll be able to enjoy it a
> >> second time.
> >>
> >> 12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the
> >> foundation for your life.  Do all you can to create a
> >> tranquil, harmonious home.
> >>
> >> 13. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with
> >> the current situation. Don't bring up the past.
> >>
> >> 14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve
> >> immortality.
> >>
> >> 15. Be gentle with the earth.
> >>
> >> 16. Once a year, go someplace you've never been
> >> before.
> >>
> >> 17. Remember that the best relationship is one in
> >> which your love for each other exceeds your need for
> >> each other.
> >>
> >> 18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in
> >> order to get it.
> >>
> >> 19. Call your mother.
> >>
> >> 20. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon.
> >>
> >> SEND THIS MANTRA E-MAIL TO AT LEAST 5 PEOPLE AND YOUR
> >> LIFE WILL IMPROVE.
> >>
> >> 0-4 people: Your life will improve  lightly.
> >>
> >> 5-9 people: Your life will improve to your liking.
> >>
> >> 9-14 people: You will have at least 5 surprises in
> >> the next 3 weeks.
> >>
> >> 15 people and above: Your life will improve
> >> drastically and everything you ever dreamed of will
> >> begin to take shape.
> >>
> >>Have fun,
> >>Autumn
> >>__________________________________________________
> >>Do You Yahoo!?
> >>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> >>http://im.yahoo.com
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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>i'm sick of hearing all these people on this message shit bitching about 
>everything. ok i can see ya bitching about how lame a party was but can't we 
>all just suck it up and party on??? I WANT TO PARTY IN PEACE!!!


This main purpose of this list is to suck and bitch, YO.  None of us
actually go to parties, YO.

And you can add the e-mail you write to the bitch message count, YO.

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hi.

in case you weren't aware, this is a discussion list relating to raves.
discussions aren't limited to happy stuff.....bad stuff happens, and [here's
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thanks for your post, your contribution has added so very much to the
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goodnite,
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:i'm sick of hearing all these people on this message shit bitching about
:everything. ok i can see ya bitching about how lame a party was but can't
we
:all just suck it up and party on??? I WANT TO PARTY IN PEACE!!!
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>why do eighties songs always manage to make it to the happyhardcore remix 
>section?

Because they are worthy. :P

I'm still waiting for a remix of that "I like big butts" song by Sir
Mix-A-Lot ;p

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Tad wrote:

> Speaking of the whole dancing thing... I heard a ~beautiful~ quote on the
> way back from 2 1200.
> A kid who works with me said this:  "Everyone wants to be a dj, I dont want
> to be a dj.  I just want to be the best dancer, I can be"

Yeah, but have you ever seen how much candy ass DJs get?
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 08:25:50 2000
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"i can't turn around any more without bumping my record bag into someone 
else's"  - crow from columbus

>Speaking of the whole dancing thing... I heard a ~beautiful~ quote on the
>way back from 2 1200.
>A kid who works with me said this:  "Everyone wants to be a dj, I dont want
>to be a dj.  I just want to be the best dancer, I can be"


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>why do eighties songs always manage to make it to the happyhardcore remix 
>section?
'
actually, the 80's rips are pretty much over, it would seem.  rips now 
consist of (1) current pop/alternarock tunes; and (2) old uk hardcore and 
jungle tunes

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in the past, i have (on several occasions) made derogatory comments 
regarding the general intelligence level (or lack therof) on mw-raves.  i 
would like to apologize.

after spending a few painful weeks subbed to pb-cle-raves, i have learned 
that things can be worse.  much worse.

the grass is greener west of cleveland,
mk

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>>
>> The 2nd venue, with the smaller party was arranged Saturday
>> afternoon so the people who didn't get in could still have something
>> to do.  It was reasonably priced, and featured talented, although
>> local DJs.  From what I understand, it was pretty fun (I wasn't there,
>> so I can't say).  I am unaware any conflict or tension between the people
>> organizing the smaller event and the promoters of Menage A Trois (as
>> mentioned in Len's original post).  I believe it was mostly organized
>> by the guys at Audio Depot, and Ken (the owner) was at Menage A
>> Trois in the morning helping clean up.  If there was a problem between
>> the two events, I think I would have heard about it, and I doubt he
>> would have been there "doing the dirty work".
>>


I have to correct myself here.  I guess there was a conflict
between some of the organizers of the smaller event and the
promoter of Menage A Trois after all.  I'm not sure exactly
what happened, but apparantly things cooled off eventually
and they resolved the situation.

    Joe

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> now, im quoting micah (satori) and i hope i get it right: not everything 
> happens for a reason, but everything has a specific result..

i like to think of it more in terms of: if it's happening, it must be
necessary. i know that's a bit fatalistic, but hey, it gets me through the
day.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 16:18:24 2000
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February 15, 2000 and every Tuesday is Eternal Beats Internet Radio live 
from Long Island, NewYork, USA 10PM till 1AM Eastern 
Standard Time. 

Go to www.eternalbeats.cjb.net anytime from 10PM till 1AM 
Click on live broadcast. 

Talk to the DJs & listeners in the Eternal Beats Chat room 

If you're on America Online or AOL Instant Messenger, you can Instant 
Message us at: 

DJ Lord V 
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You will need at least a 28K modem to view the presentation. 

February 15, 2000 

10PM till 12:00AM 
Lord V (Eternal Beats, NY) 
Breakbeat, electro, battle breaks, house & more 

12:00AM till 1:00AM 
Kaz (Generation X'd/United We Stand) 
Hardcore 

Guests DJs coming soon: 
2/22 Usul & Magic
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WOW! JENSIXTYBUS IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yay! heh now i should read all this "rave" shit again!
oh yeah.. Well im from Minnesota too...... and i live halfway between Jen 
(the stix?) and Downtown mpls. 

Heres a thought: People from Minneapolis, POST STUFF. As fun as reading all 
of Stevie's posts are, it's just not working...

Anyhoo, heres my Love2000 review... i saw 60 kids from my highschool 59 of 
them rolling... The venue was big and nice, the music was..... hiphop; west 
siiiiiiiiide!
but Craze was O.K. Colette was good :) Oh well, i guess just being with my 
"Other" was enough to make it memorable.

Yeah if your new on the list, and from MN... talk to me! 

*PS.. JEN IS AN ETARD*

-Raver1420!
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why do jazz riffs manage to be in drum and bass tracks?
-choppie

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, chad clary wrote:

> why do eighties songs always manage to make it to the happyhardcore remix 
> section?
> 
> its approaching late and i have a paper to write...and i am procrastinating
> 
> peace-
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> 
> "Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad."  (unattributed)
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This will be your last reminder, if you haven't already, go to the
website or call the info line and support your favorite DJ's.  Remember
you can vote for up to 5 DJ's.  Thank you to all those who have already
voted, we've really gotten a great response.  The winning DJ's should be
released after 2/18 (this Friday).  Look for new flyers coming out as
well after the 18th.  A new vote with an updated voting system will be
released in a few weeks, be sure to check back for that.

Pre sale tickets (glowsticks) are available at Groovy Train in Ferndale,
they will be available at Record Time in Ferndale and Roseville soon.
Unfortunately Record Time in Roseville has decided to start charging for
each ticket sold.  I guess it had to happen sooner or later.  The
Ferndale Record Time is sure to follow.  This change will NOT effect the
cost of pre sale tickets, they will remain at $15.00, save money,
tickets at the door will be $20.00.

Peace,
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 unfortunatley, not many people realize who or what "SKL" is or are...
that is unfortunate because then people would realize that we have
done our live circus act on 4 other occasions AT club x.....to which
there was plastic hung (more than once)......there were over 1000
people in attendence (more than once).......there were plenty of "kiddies" (more than once, and quit messed up....infact, one kid ((17))
swears he ate a laced carrot....dont ask me).......BUT WAIT, there is more!!  i dont recall anyone being busted across the river from louisville..in a certaint hotel room..with lots of bad things and more money than i have made in the past 2 years (well then again...one doesn't make much when they are in an apprentianceship)....i don't recall any bad "pr" in the news or anything.....
 oh well......maybe i am just stupid (but i still had a great time,
thanx guys...we'll play for you all anytime!!!)

spiritualkracklab
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> Who on this list is from Minnesota other than myself?

    I'm not from Minnesota, I'm from Minneapolis. Two different worlds! =]
 
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anyone going to this?  anybody know if there are any presale tix
available? if i'm not mistaken, i think ticketmaster be affiliated in some
way, but i'm not too sure. time for research.
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Yep- I'm going and I'm hauling at least Chris Ege, Mark Lancaster and my
roommate Rob with, possibly more.

Presales are available (we got some yesterday), but I'd recommend you find
a U of I student to get them for you since they get them half price.

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In a message dated 2/15/00 10:51:06 AM Central Standard Time, 
RaVeR1420@aol.com writes:

<< *PS.. JEN IS AN ETARD* >>

HAHAHAHA!!!   =D

What Joe, you don't wanna roll around in the grass with me or something?

Jen Sixtybus

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From: Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani <blitz666@uswest.net>
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On 02/15/2000 2:01 PM atomly prophesized the following:

> Yep- I'm going and I'm hauling at least Chris Ege, Mark Lancaster and my
> roommate Rob with, possibly more.
> 
> Presales are available (we got some yesterday), but I'd recommend you find
> a U of I student to get them for you since they get them half price.
> 

the only problem witht his is that when you show up at the door with a
student discounbt ticket you still have to show your U of I student ID to be
admitted as i was told


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my mind is the machine gun, my body is the bullets,
and my audience is the target!!!

I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

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You do have a point.  Everyone and there mother's cousin is a dj now,
(including myself..hehe) but one things for sure, I always try to take ti=
me
out to dance.  But as I said before, I miss it.  I miss going out to a pa=
rty
and dancing.  I must reclaim my rightful place again.

we used to dance...all night.....all night

what track is that by the way...i wanna say mr. Farina..but you know






Adam Ierymenko <api@relaymail.net> wrote:
Tad wrote:

> Speaking of the whole dancing thing... I heard a ~beautiful~ quote on t=
he
> way back from 2 1200.
> A kid who works with me said this:  "Everyone wants to be a dj, I dont =
want
> to be a dj.  I just want to be the best dancer, I can be"

Yeah, but have you ever seen how much candy ass DJs get?
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can it sell out? i'm hauling about 6 people down from mpls and would hate
to get there and find out we can't get in....i don't spose any presale tix
are available up here? especially cause it seems more along the lines of
performance art conceptualization than just a party.......

anyone? should I just plan on getting down to the U early?

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here's the answer to all your questions:

>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Vince Woolums <junglist@ia.net>
>
>FROM 0 to 1 TICKET INFO UPDATE
>
>**IMMEDIATE RELEASE**
>
>If you're planning to attend From 0 to 1 and are from outside Iowa and the
>Iowa City area, you'll most likely want to buy a presale ticket to guarantee
>your admission.  It has been confirmed that these tickets were made
>available today.  Already there have been several tickets sold.  Our
>capacity for the event is only 1000 people, and we do expect to sell out.
>
>In the interest of making things clear you'll need to know a couple of
>things.  To purchase tickets over the phone:
>
>1.  Non UI students are $15 with a $0.50 handling charge PER TICKET.
>Pre-sale (U of I ONLY) student tickets are $7 with a $0.50 handling charge.
>These tickets may NOT be purchased with your University ID/University Bill.
>Pre-sale student tickets will only be sold with a valid Student ID at the
>Union Box Office, located on the 1st floor of the IMU.  Students may pay
>with cash or by charge.  Please note that tickets sold the night of the
>event are NOT subject to the $0.50 handling charge.  Tickets sold the night
>of the event will be on a CASH ONLY basis.
>
>2.  Tickets are sold on the "Will Call" basis - this means you'll pick the
>tickets up the night of the show, not at any time before Feb. 19th.  On the
>night of Feb. 19th, proceed to the Union Box Office, located on the 1st
>floor of the Iowa Memorial Union, or to the front gate of the event.  The
>box office and IMU maps are available at the From 0 to 1 website - please
>see the following: http://www.nodal.com/from0to1
>
>3.  Phone sales are with a credit card only.  There are no check-by-phone or
>other services available.  I'm told that the box office accepts nearly all
>major credit cards.
>
>4.  You may purchase up to 20 tickets per order.  However, you must bear in
>mind that the purchaser will be required to present the credit card which
>they used to purchase the tickets AND a VALID piece of identification, like
>a drivers license.  Example:  John wants to buy 20 tickets for his friends
>in St. Louis.  He pays with his credit card, and buys all 20 tickets.  On
>Feb 19th, he arrives at the IMU Box Office, and presents his credit card and
>ID.  He then receives the 20 tickets, which he distributes to his friends.
>ON THE OTHER HAND, if John buys the tickets and does NOT plan on attending
>the show himself, as the purchaser he MUST designate a PRIMARY TICKET-HOLDER 
>to pick up tickets on his behalf.  That ticket holder is also responsible
>for presenting ID to receive their ticket.
>
>5.  A limited number of pre-sale tickets will be sold until Feb 18th.
>
>6.  Tickets are not refundable or transferable.  If you have questions about
>ticketing, please ask the service people.
>
>7.  Recognized art contributors and performers are not required to buy
>tickets.
>
>Finally, to buy tickets please call 800-346-4401 or 319-335-3041.  The Union
>Box Office is open till 9pm Monday thru Friday.
>
>
>Feel free to forward this message to those interested.
>
>We'd like to thank everyone who's already purchased a ticket - we'll see you
>in February!
>
>The From 0 to 1 Staff
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Well, they claim it will most likely sell out- they only have capacity for
1000 there.  Just call the box office (the number's on the website) and
you can buy with a credit card over the phone.

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From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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Furthermore, I would just like to add----i find it ironic that you say yo=
ur
tired of the bitching on this list...yet..you have just bitched...heh
I'm not jumping on you.  I'm just pointing out the obvious.  This message=
 is
for the Beijos character


Bitch on.. :P

Fuego







"Pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote:
hi.

in case you weren't aware, this is a discussion list relating to raves.
discussions aren't limited to happy stuff.....bad stuff happens, and [her=
e's
a concept] people *discuss* it. considering that it's *right on topic* fo=
r
this list, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

thanks for your post, your contribution has added so very much to the
conversation.

goodnite,
pixie




:i'm sick of hearing all these people on this message shit bitching about=

:everything. ok i can see ya bitching about how lame a party was but can'=
t
we
:all just suck it up and party on??? I WANT TO PARTY IN PEACE!!!
:
:beijos
:
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O.k...I'm looking for a mixtape by Ron d. Core called Acid Test 2....i fo=
und
acid test 3, but i'm looking for 2.  Can you help a brotha out


and also i need a track i.d.  On the wackycrackheads.com site what is the=
 name
of the track that goes...

i ii ii i love..the way ...i i love the way you make me feeel

any help would be much abliged heh....err..Thanx YO!


Fuego!

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sarcasm bud - can you spell that... do you know how to recognize it?  ;-p 
...
candy kids rock!! =)  and its not that people spark up next to me.. its that 
they ask if it bothers me and do it anyway


>Why the hell is this guy even on the list... its one thing to hate on lil 
>candy kids but its another when it bothers you to have some one spark up 
>next to you ... what a simp!
>
>>
>>>-those people that wear their hats sideways
>>>-people that ask you if it bothers you if they spark up - you say yes and
>>>they do it anyway
>>>-being packed like a sardine and not being able to dance
>>>-venues that allow smoking inside
>>>-$5 bottles of water
>>>-"tech vests"
>>>-that guy next to me that keeps stepping on my toes as he jumps madly to
>>>hardcore (and not happyhardcore)
>>>-ecko
>>>-people that dont dress up in wild fashions...
>>>-people making out on the dance floor
>>>-e-tards/e-puddles
>>>
>>>and now i have a project to finish... the real list will come later
>>>
>>>peace-
>>>chad
>>>
>>>"Those who hear not the music think the dancers mad."  (unattributed)
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Think you're a good writer? Prove it. Send in an article or review for
publication in NSMM Magazine, the biggest pile of horse shit ever to
be put into print. Tapes, Vinyl, Parties, whatever, send them in. What
will
you get for being selected? Your name in a magazine, you conceited fucker,
what else do you want?

Shit talking and lies are encouraged, articles will be selected based on
the quality of the writing and disregard for your peers emotions.

Now is your chance!

The Deadline is this friday. They will be printed on the 25th of february
and circulated around the midwest. There will be an initial circulation of
4000. If you are interested in advertising, prices are cheap, but the ads
have to be in by the middle of next week. 

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Subject: [mw] Love review--mpls
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don't know if anyone has written a review of this party yet (or lack
thereof) cuz i just got my email account set back up after a few week
hiatus so if I'm just repeating bitching then forgive me.....

FAMILY WERKS IS THE FUCKING SKETCHIEST SLIMIEST SLEAZEIEST PRODUCTION CREW
EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I swore I would never go to another party of theirs but I buckled just
because of the lineup of this one and what am I rewarded with for the
hassle of buying presale tickets at cafe fusion and then getting directions
from there---

#1 ass long lines at the door. this is bullshit. if you sell all your
tickets presale there should be NO fucking reason to have people waiting
for 2-3 hours in subzero temps. TURNING PEOPLE AWAY SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION
IF YOU ARE SELLING PRESALE!!!! I talked to plenty of kids who waited for
hours only to be told that they couldn't get in until people left. YOU KNEW
HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE AT THE PARTY

#2 ONE portalet?!?!?! what the fuck??? 5000 people + 1 portolet= 2 hour
long lines to take a piss...once again, a little fucking common sense and
CARE FOR YOUR PARTIERS goes a helluva long way

#3) fans????? it was climbing to over 100 degrees easy in that space and
you couldn't even prop doors open?

#4) uhhh....busted at 1:30?? enuff said

so the lights were rather rocking, the sound system was great, the lineup
was fantastic and the few sets I heard were excellent. Craze alone was
almost worth the admission price just to watch.....but the extreme lack of
respect for the kids that jumped through numerous hoops to get tickets is
BULLSHIT. I have friends that got there at 11 and were still waiting in
line when the cops busted it. 

mile high parties are big and homogenous and generally pretty mediocre but
at least they know how to take care of things like securing a decent space,
setting up that space to at least minimum comfort (ONE portolet?!?!?! and
way sketchy security guards?!?!?!), getting people in the door.....

i was actually excited to get back to the mpls scene after 6 months across
the sea, but no longer.....thanks family werks. happy valentine's day kids.
never again.

grrrrrrrrr......
eric

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Subject: Re: [mw] Ron d. Core & track i.d Please
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Try his site... http://www.drfreeclouds.com in the mixtapes section.
Not sure they have this exact one but there are several available.

Rob


----- Original Message -----
From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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Subject: [mw] Ron d. Core & track i.d Please


O.k...I'm looking for a mixtape by Ron d. Core called Acid Test 2....i found
acid test 3, but i'm looking for 2.  Can you help a brotha out


and also i need a track i.d.  On the wackycrackheads.com site what is the
name
of the track that goes...

i ii ii i love..the way ...i i love the way you make me feeel

any help would be much abliged heh....err..Thanx YO!


Fuego!

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ya, were the hell is that shit fuckers!!!!!!!!
good call stevie
(did I just say that??)

--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> oh shiiiiit, looks like we got some contenders to
> oust becky for mw-raves queen bitch!!...
> 
> hey, where's the dick test for me, jon gotti, &
> michael?
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Does anyone have a flier for the indy party this Saturday? (It has sleepy C 
on it but I cant remember who else)

Could you please email ME the email adresses listed on the flier?

thank you
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 estiens@macalester.edu wrote:
> FAMILY WERKS IS THE FUCKING SKETCHIEST SLIMIEST SLEAZEIEST PRODUCTION CREW
> EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> I swore I would never go to another party of theirs but I buckled just
> because of the lineup of this one and what am I rewarded with for the
> hassle of buying presale tickets at cafe fusion and then getting directions
> from there---

Yea, same here- after that fiasco at last year's Love (I ended up swearing
at one of the promoters and leaving before I even got in because of how
shady they were being) I swore I'd never go to one of the parties again.
I only went to help Dica and Val vend, and even that was a stretch for me.
I fucking hate that production company!

> #1 ass long lines at the door. this is bullshit. if you sell all your
> tickets presale there should be NO fucking reason to have people waiting
> for 2-3 hours in subzero temps. TURNING PEOPLE AWAY SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION
> IF YOU ARE SELLING PRESALE!!!! I talked to plenty of kids who waited for
> hours only to be told that they couldn't get in until people left. YOU KNEW
> HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE AT THE PARTY

Yea, they even promised MULTIPLE times that the people with presales would
have a seperate line.  This is exactly the reason I got so mad at them
last year too!  Last year they had that thing where if you got there
before 11 tickets were way cheaper.  So we got there at 10:30 and stood in
line, and then some dickhead came out and told us that from then on all
tickets were full price, even though all of us had been standing outside
in the fucking freezing cold!

> #2 ONE portalet?!?!?! what the fuck??? 5000 people + 1 portolet= 2 hour
> long lines to take a piss...once again, a little fucking common sense and
> CARE FOR YOUR PARTIERS goes a helluva long way

Yea, that line was fucking ridiculous, and in the middle of the second
"room."

> #3) fans????? it was climbing to over 100 degrees easy in that space and
> you couldn't even prop doors open?

Yea, I was also a big fan of the running out of water by midnight.  At
least it was free.

> #4) uhhh....busted at 1:30?? enuff said

Yea, and to be truthful, it's probably a good thing they got busted.  I'm
guessing things would've gotten ugly if they had let everybody in.
Overcrowded, really hot, no water, no bathrooms and drugs aren't a good
combination.

Plus did you see how long it took for them to get people out those doors?
If there had been a fire there would've been a LOT of dead people between
the fire and the trampling.

> so the lights were rather rocking, the sound system was great, the lineup
> was fantastic and the few sets I heard were excellent. Craze alone was
> almost worth the admission price just to watch.....but the extreme lack of
> respect for the kids that jumped through numerous hoops to get tickets is
> BULLSHIT. I have friends that got there at 11 and were still waiting in
> line when the cops busted it. 

Well, the lighting was pretty good, I'd say, but the they must've had a
third grader doing their sound design.  I swore my head was going to
explode when I got within twenty feet of the speakers, but if you were in
front of the stage it sounded like a Fisher Price "My First Boombox" or
something.  And that bleeding into the second room was beautiful!  From
the vending table it just sounded like a big trainwreck all night because
of the two sound systems and all of the echoing.

Fuck Family Werks, Soul Theology and all of the other shitty Minneapolis
promoters.  They all suck ass in my book until they prove otherwise, and I
don't think Family Werks is ever going to get another chance at that.

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coming soon the todd moody action figure...
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cuz sometimes they sound nice......
duh

--- chopstiks <mkhemma@orion.it.luc.edu> wrote:
> why do jazz riffs manage to be in drum and bass
> tracks?
> -choppie
> 
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, chad clary wrote:
> 
> > why do eighties songs always manage to make it to
> the happyhardcore remix 
> > section?
> > 
> > its approaching late and i have a paper to
> write...and i am procrastinating
> > 
> > peace-
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> > 
> > "Those who hear not the music think the dancers
> mad."  (unattributed)
> > 
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> > ICQ: 34417787
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Lies of the 90's
I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
The light was yellow. 
I've never been to a porn site.
Nicotine is not addictive. 
I didn't inhale.
Your table will be ready soon. 
I'll devote my life to finding her killers.
I don't play PC games 
I buy it for the articles.
I never go to chat rooms. 
I invented the internet. 
I don't play video games.
Richie Hawtin is god.
 



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 21:06:26 2000
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> Richie Hawtin is god.

Richie Hawtin sucks... I could take him any day... :)

Love,
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I didn't inhale... Who would say something stupid like
that???? Its a waste of good weed...

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Please report questions & problems to mw-raves-owner@hyperreal.org
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The Midwest Raves mailing-list is distributed in two ways. You should
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Clearly, midwest raves is about many things, and many related topics can
be of interest; e.g. the origin of various music styles, turntables and 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 21:31:06 2000
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>sarcasm bud - can you spell that... do you know how to recognize it?

didnt we come up with an *oficial* mw-raves sarcasm indicator a while back? 
maybe since there are so many new people on the list we should bring it 
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<<mw-raves rocks me>>  those(<<>>) would be the sarcasm indicators...
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Music is the lowest and most fabulous common
denominator. When the art is not the latest thing and
the drugs aren't too good, there remains dancing. If
you are looking for a place to express
yourself physically then this high-tech boogie-woogie,
this post-millenial disco, is truly the best way to do
your thing. 

The free-trade, new-world, global marketplace will
resemble a rave. We will be living out of backpacks,
paying for water, and every once in a while a cute,
fashionable person will walk by with a
plate of fruit. Anonomous machine-made music will be
piped in everywhere. We will consume and create while
we dance to aerobic muzak. This truth will be apparent
to all at the year 2000
Olympics in Sydney, Australia. The arenas will have
BIG sound and DJ's pumping dance music to a croud who
has gotten off their asses and recognized that many
cultures can groove to the
same beat, even as new records are being set on the
field below. 

At home we listen to seventies disco on 8-track. At
night we rave to deep house, techno, ambient, acid
jazz... And we carry around a mirrored globe on the
end of a stick and shine flashlights at
its glittering, glamouring faceted faces. 

Life,
a waterfall of emotion
c
a 
s
c
a
d
i 
n
g
       to shimmering pools......
       swing a broomstick @ the moon
       out of reach
Sounds of HUMANITY
colours and lights
puppets in the endless carnival show......

~ anonymous

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 21:33:50 2000
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everytime i try to delete a post from mikey knight, my hotmail yells at 
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???? Never heard of that one.. Ya think he sent a bug
in his letter?? He could have ya never know..


--- "Laura D." <applesauce909@hotmail.com> wrote:
> everytime i try to delete a post from mikey knight,
> my hotmail yells at 
> me...i am very frightened...
> laura
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<<I think you smell nice.>>

See, it works well, but all of the beauty of good sarcasm is in the
subtelty.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 15 21:38:54 2000
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>From: TIMOTHY FOWLER <tfo321@yahoo.com>
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>
>I didn't inhale... Who would say something stupid like
>that???? Its a waste of good weed...
>

or dust cleaner...

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...do those little plastic stars in the bills of ravers' hats actually 
'mean' anything (like how many times theyve candy flipped, etc) or are they 
just for looks....

If they are for just looks, well, then thats depressing.

tellme,
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ok, now that i am (almost) fully recovered from this weekend, i dont really 
feel the need to write a review or a commentary...im just gonna say some 
stuff....
this weekend was rad, there were definite ups and downs, as everyone who 
attended and had the privlege of hanging at pix & tres's know... but the 
good times far outweighed the bad...
i enjoyed getting to meet for the first time/see again after far too long 
the following people: bekka (wheres my kinder egg?), mikey, doris, matt 
&jen, jes, DEREK (who i think we all saw too much of, if ya know what i 
mean), greg, micah, bryon, charles, amanda, lauryn, shawne, sean &krew, i 
cant remember anyone else, sorry, yell at me or something...i really missed 
ege & atomly & laffey (i have karl's collar) & maybe ken a lil...
my favorite part of the evening was following around the three amigos (micah 
and bryon and charles) and taking pictures of them handing out 
burritos...richie was scared i think....my close second part of the whole 
thing was when derek yelled at me for wanting to pee, it was adorable to say 
the least...
an interesting moment: when i got up to go to the bathroom at pix's and 
there were like 8 people there chillin, talkin about takin naps even, and 
when i came out ofthe bathroom there were like 50 people and richie was 
there chasing my cat *princess pretty kitty*....
anyhow, thank you people for sharing a wonderful weekend with me, and i hope 
to see you all again soon...
POP QUIZ: derek playstation + vodka + a large summer sausage + richie hawtin 
+ derek's junk + air hockey= ?????
whoever has the best answer there will win a special secret prize!
im tired, and i may have more to say later....fukk you for asking...
laura
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 >FAMILY WERKS IS THE FUCKING SKETCHIEST SLIMIEST SLEAZEIEST PRODUCTION CREW
 >EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Basically, charging 25.00/person w/ about 3000-4000 presales (oversold, the 
venue probably couldn't even hold that many) == somewhere around 100 grand 
for family werks. So even IF they did pay all the dj's (which is doubtful), 
they made a good 75 large there. Lovely...

So everyone that went got to see two of the family werks djs trainwreck 
several times, a punk rock band (???), Craze, Colette, and a whole 5-10 
minutes of Bob Sinclair...

To tell the truth, I didn't even dance for more than a few minutes, I was 
saving my energy for Mike Dearborn. : (

Another thing, I spoke to one of the cops before they busted the party and 
they said they were going to bust it at 10:00 but didn't to "avoid starting 
a riot."

 >i was actually excited to get back to the mpls scene after 6 months across
 >the sea, but no longer.....thanks family werks. happy valentine's day kids.
 >never again.

I don't blame you, I was thinking the same thing...

peace,
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to my friends and family, i hope you understand. if you have any
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Yeah Love sucked, no doubt... I didn't have a jacket with long sleeves, so
while we sat out in the cold for 1 1/2 hours, I became "numb" so to speak
of the whole experience.  Once we got in, I went to check out IG-88 and
Brace, but the sound was so unbelievable terrible that I left right away
(save the Brace comments for another time BTW =]). Colette was doing her
thing in the main room, and I must say that she is certainly a unique act.
I had no idea that she sang while she DJed, so I was pretty impressed. 30
mins later the party was busted.. .yippe. ...  However, for some reason I
had a lot of fun showering people with flyers for Matt Murphy's upcoming
thing "Murphy's Law"...

but seriously, its all about Frostbite anyway. I had 0 expectations for
Love, and I got almost 0 out of it anyway. 

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Here's the set times for Mpls's FROSTBITE on Friday, if anyone is
curious. Freaker... Katie... are you still on the list? 

any and all other info is at www.alliedsubstructure.com 

Main Room: 
Cisko 9:00 pm 
Spree 10:00 pm
E-sassin 11:00 pm
Christopher Lawrence 12:00 am
Tech Itch and Decoder 1:30 am
Alexi Delano 3:00 am
Tyler Science and Fleak 4:30 am. 

Second Room: 
Catalyst 9:00 pm
Ken Earley 10:00 pm
Skyy 11:00 pm
Glyde 12:00 pm
Mr. E-tones 1:30 am
Hoverproject 3:00 am
Madkid 4:00 am
Freakboy 5:00 am. 

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maybe they were just waiting for their share of the $$$ right???    :P

> Another thing, I spoke to one of the cops before they busted the party and
> they said they were going to bust it at 10:00 but didn't to "avoid
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When I first stared seeing them, it was just kids using then like "hey, 
you're my friend, here" like braclets... although now, the candy world has 
changed so much, I have NO clue, nor do I really really want to find out.

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saturday in chicago was jazzamataz 2 well i think that
was the name i heard about it through word of mouth. 
transparent threw it.  it was at the laser and photon
expo center in harvey so you all know how shitty the
venue is as far as how small it is.  i like it though
it looks all tech.  anyways the line up was tim
harper,glenn underground, craig alexander,
chocalate,traxx, mazi so as far as i was concerned the
line up was dope.  it was announced that paul johnson
was gonna be there so im like hell yea well five
oclock rolls around and paul johnson on the dancefloor
i talked to him a bit and wondered to myself why he
wasnt spinning.  well cool points was it was 15bones i
didnt wait too long in the cold.  all in all it was
tight.  HOUSE AINT GIVIN UP!!!SHORTY
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oh my goodness...I'm 59% bitch? that can't be right....
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> I swore I would never go to another party of theirs but I buckled just
> because of the lineup of this one

	Ditto.
>
> #1 ass long lines at the door. this is bullshit. if you sell all your
> tickets presale there should be NO fucking reason to have
> people waiting
> for 2-3 hours in subzero temps. TURNING PEOPLE AWAY SHOULD
> NOT BE AN OPTION
> IF YOU ARE SELLING PRESALE!!!! I talked to plenty of kids who
> waited for
> hours only to be told that they couldn't get in until people
> left. YOU KNEW
> HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE AT THE PARTY

	Yeah I'm still trying to figure that one out. I guess they lost their space
at the last minute, but then why were they still selling a buttload of
presales the night of? That space was huge granted, but not that huge.


> #3) fans????? it was climbing to over 100 degrees easy in
> that space and
> you couldn't even prop doors open?

	Really? I didn't really notice the heat, maybe I was just enjoying it as a
change from the wait in line...

>> so the lights were rather rocking, the sound system was
> great,

	I really didn't think the sound system was that great at all. The main
system looked like it could have put out alot more if they'd put some more
power behind it, and the "second room" was just a joke, you could hear spots
in IG-88's set where you knew there was just a killer bassline but all you
could hear was the mid to high's in the sound, there was no bass at all!

	My biggest complaint of the night was the shortage of water. They were out
at like 12:00! You gotta figure, as a promoter, the average partygoer will
most likely consume two bottles of water in a night. so, if you sell 4,000
presale tickets, be ready with 8,000 bottles of water. This isn't exactly
"new math" here... It's not like if you undersell them you're gonna lose
money! At the prices water goes for at some of these parties (ridiculous)
you could probably pay for the whole 8,000 bottles with the first 2,000 you
sell. (that's conservative) Anyway, yeah I think it'd be safe to say that
party blew, but I agree with brandon, flyering for Murphy's Law was kinda
fun. See you all at Frostbite!!!

Matt Murphy
Next Step Productions
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 00:45:03 2000
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damn happy hardcore dj's 
damn them to hell!!!!!!!!

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there is a happy hardcore tune called John gotti's revenge,you should peep 
it john...you fiesty fuck =P

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>damn happy hardcore dj's
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>
>...do those little plastic stars in the bills of ravers' hats actually 
>'mean' anything (like how many times theyve candy flipped, etc) or are 
>they just for looks....

originally they were meant to signify how many candy raver girls you'd 
shagged.  now kids just swap 'em and  give 'em away like nothing!  doh, is 
nothing sacred?


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Who anyone happen to know the name of that guy that dictates his philosophy
and advice about life over trip-hop music?  He's very well known and he's
even had a video on MTV and he's also done a few commercials.  I have to
know the name of that guy!!!


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That's interesting..because I've never noticed them....

hmmm

Fuego :P

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=2E..do those little plastic stars in the bills of ravers' hats actually =

'mean' anything (like how many times theyve candy flipped, etc) or are th=
ey =

just for looks....

If they are for just looks, well, then thats depressing.

tellme,
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jason and jj -

everyone knows you are both down for the Real Shit.  lesser men would have 
just said "fuck it" and skipped town with the presale money.  you will set 
things right, when you don't even really have to.  busted parties have 
always been a part of the game.

looking forward to your future events,
mk

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>From: michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
>
>>
>>...do those little plastic stars in the bills of ravers' hats actually
>>'mean' anything (like how many times theyve candy flipped, etc) or are
>>they just for looks....
>
>originally they were meant to signify how many candy raver girls you'd 
>shagged.


Are you pulling my you know what?  Or are you serious????

But it seems I can recall a few GIRLS with those plastic stars in their hat 
bills but that doesnt make any....

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

How very rave like!

cool,
adam

PS: I have started to make fun of stupid ravers when vending.  Does this 
mean I am immoral person?  I dont think they realize it so it doesnt really 
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At 08:03 PM 2/15/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Who anyone happen to know the name of that guy that dictates his philosophy
>and advice about life over trip-hop music?  He's very well known and he's
>even had a video on MTV and he's also done a few commercials.  I have to
>know the name of that guy!!!

chris rock.


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>
>How very rave like!

>PS: I have started to make fun of stupid ravers when vending.  Does this 
>mean I am immoral person?  I dont think they realize it so it doesnt really 
>hurt anyone...


Ok... now I'm going to say something I have noticed from ~ravers~ it seems
every raver I know claims not to be a raver they area all 'djs' or
'promoters' or .... or aspiring to be aformentioned (I'm not saying I'm not
guilty of this just... well)  all these same people seem to have nothing
but contempt for ravers.  Constantly talking down about ravers etc... my
question is who are these djs planning on playing music for? (and why?)
who are these promoters expecting to show up at their parties?? (and why
are tehy throwing parties?)  If its so fucking un-cool to be 'ravey' why do
any of these people have anything to do with the scene? Sometimes I just
get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
people who have been involved in the scene for so long.


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Subject: [mw] DJ Funk Resurrected From the Dead This Friday
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So

Is DJ Funk gonna be @ the Metro in Chicago this Friday???  I live around =
the
corner from the place, I guess I should go.  But I'm wondering if this is=
 true
or not...let me know...let meeee knooooooww :P


Fuego!

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>Sometimes I just
>get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
>people who have been involved in the scene for so long.

compare the ravers of today to the ravers of yore, and you'll see why we 
have such contempt for them sometimes.

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At 12:09 PM 2/15/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm going to Toledo/Ann Arbor/Flint this weekend for a little trip... Does 
>anyone know of any record stores in those areas?  ...Or even anything else 
>cool I should stop and check out????  :)

there is a chik-fil-a at the franklin park mall in toledo, and the 
undisputed Queen of Rave lives in ann arbor...good luck getting an 
appointment with her on this short notice tho, i hear she's booked like 6 
years in advance right now.


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From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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You have a point.  All the "ravers" I come in contact to, aren't 'ravers'=
=2E =

They loath the term.  But if you eat, shit, live and breath in this atmos=
phere
or the "rave" are you not a raver, forget the drugs and all the stupid
shit...you go to raves.  As simple as that.  And again, the attitudes and=
 egos
that were meantioned earlier are indeed sour.  Like it or not folks...you=

might be a raver if you pay 20 bucks to get inot a dirty ass factory and
listen and dance to some Acetate all night.

you might be a raver..if you can't help but to bust a move and "shake wha=
t yo
mama gave you" when DJ Funk get's up on the tables.....

hell you ass might be a raver if the first thing you do once the party is=
 over
is to get ready for the after party.....

Let's face it...I'm gonna quote something this old guy down south used to=

say..with a little variation on words...

WE HAVE A HERITAGE A VERY RICH HERITAGE....BE  PROUUUUUUD...OF YO RAVYNES=
S

But...but...again...It's all about RESPECT...RESPect YO SELVES....AND RES=
PECT
EACH OTHER.


again..this is just my opinion not meant to offend...just to voice what I=

feel...


"Ain't nothing goin' on but History"

Fuego :)





Ok... now I'm going to say something I have noticed from ~ravers~ it seem=
s
every raver I know claims not to be a raver they area all 'djs' or
'promoters' or .... or aspiring to be aformentioned (I'm not saying I'm n=
ot
guilty of this just... well)  all these same people seem to have nothing
but contempt for ravers.  Constantly talking down about ravers etc... my
question is who are these djs planning on playing music for? (and why?)
who are these promoters expecting to show up at their parties?? (and why
are tehy throwing parties?)  If its so fucking un-cool to be 'ravey' why =
do
any of these people have anything to do with the scene? Sometimes I just
get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
people who have been involved in the scene for so long.


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At 10:08 PM 2/15/00 -0600, michael knight wrote:
>
>>Sometimes I just
>>get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
>>people who have been involved in the scene for so long.
>
>compare the ravers of today to the ravers of yore, and you'll see why we 
>have such contempt for them sometimes.


Its nearly impossible to do that with out being 'subjective'  sometimes I
wonder if they really are that different?  sometimes I dont think so... but
still if you have contempt for today's ravers... why bother
djing/promoting???  (this is not directed to you michael)

You love the music??? well teh same arugment aplies here as does to those
who love the drugs... find your connections and set them up outside the party.

You want to 'educate' the current crop of ravers? well I think that would
be easier to do with out an attitude that would seem to alienate them
(looking down on people tends to do that).

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>might be a raver if you pay 20 bucks to get inot a dirty ass factory and
>listen and dance to some Acetate all

YOur still a raver if you happen to know the dj/promoter and get in for
free. Face it your a raver if your there *period*  (ok maybe not all djs
are ravers but... a lot are).


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>YOur still a raver if you happen to know the dj/promoter and get in for
>free. Face it your a raver if your there *period*  (ok maybe not all djs
>are ravers but... a lot are).

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If its so fucking un-cool to be 'ravey' why do
>any of these people have anything to do with the scene? Sometimes I just
>get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
>people who have been involved in the scene for so long.

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Both of us are still on the list. I just barely ever comment because I'm too busy catching up on Stevie's sex status, and all the women he "gets". 

It's all about Frostbite, I'm so pumped!

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>
>still if you have contempt for today's ravers... why bother
>djing/promoting???  (this is not directed to you michael)


HEY IS THAT DIRECTED AT ME?F~!?!!?#!@#  doh ;P

seriously tho, that's why i say i only hate ravers "sometimes".  i hate 
them when they sell k to people at parties.  i hate them when they get my 
friends hooked on heroin.  i hate them when they bring guns and knives into 
parties.  i hate them when they tag spaces.  i hate them when they act 
sketchy.  i hate them when they start physical altercations at events.

on the other hand...

i love them when they run around giving people things:  hugs, stickers, 
candy, bracelets, whatever.  i love them when i look out and see them 
waving their hands around and going wild for these records i brought.  i 
love them when they stay to help clean up even tho they payed to get in and 
don't even know you.  etc.

it just seems that these days, i'm doing too much hating and not enough 
loving.  and it's not that i need to just "do more loving"...the ravers 
need to do more to make me love them. :P

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:


+when i go to a rave, i prefer to think of myself as "chris."

hi , chris...

where are you from?

i'm CHAD, are you rolling or tripping or anything?
cuz i'm trying to find some drugs.

hey we should hang out, i give great backrubs.

want some water? i'm not sick or anything.

so, you're from minnesota, hey?  i hear people there are really nice...

dj funks really great, isn't he?  i was supporting him back in january.

sure, have some more water, i know you're tired from dancing.

...more dancing, more dancing....

you ok, there chris?   you look like you're about to pass out...
come with me, i'll take care of you...

*blackout*

*evil chuckle*

kisses and loves,
chad



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Greets all, (delurk)

> Is DJ Funk gonna be @ the Metro in Chicago this Friday???  I live around the
> corner from the place, I guess I should go.  But I'm wondering if this is true
> or not...let me know...let meeee knooooooww :P

Is this the same DJ Funk "responsible for "Pussy Ride", "Hoes in Da
House 99" and many other booty anthems"?  He was at the Orbit Room's
weekly Revolution night in Grand Rapids this past Friday.  That was the
first time I'd seen him spin, but he's been there 3 or 4 times since
September.

That quote comes from the flyer for Liquid Vision coming up 03/18 in
Kalamazoo.  Any of yall gonna be there?


So, it sounds like he's still around.  I wasn't too impressed with him,
actually.  I don't think ghetto/booty house is my thing..  His "dancers"
didn't look like they were having any fun either :)

"And if that ain't enough...he's got dancers, dog!  And they bout it!"


> Fuego!
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Ok, Chrise did already post the listed information below, however, this has
the phone number you need to call to get tickets.  I was talking w/ one of
the girls who is organizing this tonight, and she was told by the box office
that this event is 30-50% sold out already.  She also asked me to let you
know that once this place reaches capacity, there is no going over it, it's
going to be closely monitored by the University since they are the ones
basically putting up the funding for it, and they're real bastards about
following the rules sometimes.  So, if you're planning on coming, you need
to get a presale ticket, there aren't going to be that many available at the
door, and this is not going to be the kind of thing where you can show your
out-of-state id and know that the door guy is going to let you in...this
isn't going to happen.  Just so you know......

Please also note (as I think someone maybe mentioned before), the student
price is for University of IOWA students only (yes, the University likes to
make rules about this too), so unless you have a UI id, don't bother trying
to pay the lower price (see more info below)

****************
Tickets are on sale as we speak at the Iowa Memorial Union
Box Office.  You can reach them by calling Campus Information at
319-335-3500 and asking for the Union Box Office.

For clarification, each non-UI student ticket is $15 plus a $0.50 handling
charge.  You may purchase up to 20 tickets for yourself and friends per
order.  Orders over the phone are only sold via credit card.  However, it is
EXTREMELY important to note that tickets are sold on a "will call" basis,
which means everyone has to give a full name and be prepared to show proper
photo ID.

Will call" tickets and your ID are all you when you come to the event.  The
door staff will simply ask for your name and ID and verify that you did
indeed purchase a ticket. Please avoid the "I'm a student routine" because
student rate tickets will require you to show your valid Univeristy ID, and
if you're not a student you'll have to pay the full price, even though you
bought a reduced rate ticket.

There will be tickets sold at the door as well.

UI student price is a shockingly low $7, an additional $0.50 if you buy a
student ticket.

Any more questions regarding tickets or the From 0 to 1 event can be
directed privately to me.

See you all in February!

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Is anyone goin to the Rave this weekend? Cuz me and my friend want to become 
ravers, do a bunch of drugs and dance around to crazy music. If you're going, 
can you give us a ride and help us find some cute girls to have sex with 
after eating X?? Cuz I heard once the X is handed out at a Rave, its orgy 
time.

packin the condoms now
shawne

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> Well, again the debate continues...
> 
> This email is being posted to both the MW-Raves and YUM-Records Mailing
> Lists.
> 
> About a year ago a similar thread surfaced on the now defunct p-raves
> mailing list.  I knew that it would surface again.
> We always talk about P.L.U.R. but do we really live by it?!  We are so
> quick to judge!  Why???  We are all there for the
> same reason.   The people, and the music.  The rave scene would not be
> what it is without some diversity.  The following
> is a clipping from the MW-Raves list earlier today:
> 
> You have a point.  All the "ravers" I come in contact to, aren't 'ravers'.
> 
> They loath the term.  But if you eat, shit, live and breath in this
> atmosphere
> or the "rave" are you not a raver, forget the drugs and all the stupid
> shit...you go to raves.  As simple as that.  And again, the attitudes and
> egos
> that were meantioned earlier are indeed sour.  Like it or not folks...you
> might be a raver if you pay 20 bucks to get in to a dirty ass factory and
> listen and dance to some Acetate all night.
> 
> you might be a raver..if you can't help but to bust a move and "shake what
> yo
> mama gave you" when DJ Funk get's up on the tables.....
> 
> hell you ass might be a raver if the first thing you do once the party is
> over
> is to get ready for the after party.....
> 
> Let's face it...I'm gonna quote something this old guy down south used to
> say..with a little variation on words...
> 
> WE HAVE A HERITAGE A VERY RICH HERITAGE....BE  PROUUUUUUD...OF YO RAVYNESS
> 
> But...but...again...It's all about RESPECT...RESPect YO SELVES....AND
> RESPECT
> EACH OTHER.
> 
> again..this is just my opinion not meant to offend...just to voice what I
> feel...
> 
> "Ain't nothing goin' on but History"
> 
> Fuego :)
> 
> Ok... now I'm going to say something I have noticed from ~ravers~ it seems
> every raver I know claims not to be a raver they are all 'djs' or
> 'promoters' or .... or aspiring to be aformentioned (I'm not saying I'm
> not
> guilty of this just... well)  all these same people seem to have nothing
> but contempt for ravers.  Constantly talking down about ravers etc... my
> question is who are these djs planning on playing music for? (and why?)
> who are these promoters expecting to show up at their parties?? (and why
> are tehy throwing parties?)  If its so fucking un-cool to be 'ravey' why
> do
> any of these people have anything to do with the scene? Sometimes I just
> get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
> people who have been involved in the scene for so long.
> 
> tad  
> 
> compare the ravers of today to the ravers of yore, and you'll see why we 
> have such contempt for them sometimes.
> 
> michael knight
> 
> ...do those little plastic stars in the bills of ravers' hats actually 
> 'mean' anything (like how many times theyve candy flipped, etc) or are
> they 
> just for looks....
> 
> If they are for just looks, well, then thats depressing.
> 
> tellme,
> adam
> 
> originally they were meant to signify how many candy raver girls you'd 
> shagged.  now kids just swap 'em and  give 'em away like nothing!  doh, is
> 
> nothing sacred?
> 
> michael knight
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Now, the reason I'm posting this is simple.  I attended my first party in
> 1992 in Montreal, PQ.
> I have seen a lot of changes in the scene in the past 8 years.  But some
> things have remained constant!
> I don't know about everyone else, but I got into the scene for the love of
> music.  The fat funky beats!
> I have met some of the best people ever at parties.  All of the people I
> call friends are from the
> "rave" scene.  I have always enjoyed meeting new people, and looking at my
> photo's afterwards and
> remembering the roadtrips, and the great people I met, and the great DJ's
> I got to listen to!  I never went
> home and thought "those damn candy ravers" or "those damn old-skoolers"!
> I went home and thought "Wow, what
> a great night" and on occassion I even thought "wow, I was really f'd!".
> But I never judged people due to
> how they dressed, danced, how old they were, or what they ate at the party
> - i.e. "candy".
> 
> I read the postings on the mailing lists that I belong to, and I just
> think that a lot of have forgotten
> why we got into it.  Shall I say "we forgot our roots".  Ask yourself why
> you got into the scene when you did,
> and then ask yourself if you still go for that reason...
> DO YOU STILL BELIEVE?
> 
> Keep it real - P.L.U.R.
> 
> Marcus
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>From: Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net>
>Reply-To: Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net>
>To: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] what I want to know is...
>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:56:35 -0600
>
> >
> >How very rave like!
>
> >PS: I have started to make fun of stupid ravers when vending.  Does this
> >mean I am immoral person?  I dont think they realize it so it doesnt 
>really
> >hurt anyone...
>
>
>Ok... now I'm going to say something I have noticed from ~ravers~ it seems
>every raver I know claims not to be a raver they area all 'djs' or
>'promoters' or .... or aspiring to be aformentioned (I'm not saying I'm not
>guilty of this just... well)  all these same people seem to have nothing
>but contempt for ravers.  Constantly talking down about ravers etc... my
>question is who are these djs planning on playing music for? (and why?)
>who are these promoters expecting to show up at their parties?? (and why
>are tehy throwing parties?)  If its so fucking un-cool to be 'ravey' why do
>any of these people have anything to do with the scene? Sometimes I just
>get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
>people who have been involved in the scene for so long.
>
>

Hey I said stupid ravers!  If that means ALL ravers to *you* then so be it!

I just get annoyed when the same mother fucker asks me for a pen 3 times in 
one night.  Guess what?  I still dont have one buddy!

I think its humorous when a girl who knows to put plastic stars in her hat 
doesnt know the difference between jungle and house.  Its alright if you are 
new to the music and scene like we all were once.  But why so quick with 
fashion and slow with the music?  So I will tease her and say, "You know, I 
really have no idea what the difference is either!  Electronic music sounds 
all the same to me."  Is that so wrong!

I chuckle when I see a 16 year old kid wearing a shirt that says "PIMP" on 
it is sucking on a pacifer.  Surely you can see the humor in that!

I also think its sorta of funny when I see people blowing through tubes on 
each others faces.  Sometimes one of them will shake the others head 
VIGOROUSLY while doing this!  Its a sight!

And then sometimes I will get mad.  Like the 18 year old kid who took his 13 
(!!!) year old brother to his first rave and gives him a roll of extacy (all 
of these stories are true by the way).   The 13 year old spends the entire 
night sitting next to me waving glow sticks in front of his face (which I 
probably sold him) while his brother is out raving!

I am in a serious moral dilema here folks.  I dont know whether to keep 
selling masks with vicks, pacifers, and shirts that say "burn out" on them 
(hey look at me!  I use so many drugs I have forgotten that Burn Out isnt a 
compliment!) while simultaneously decrying drug abuse or say fuck it and 
find another way to earn spending money.  I only go to a handful of raves 
each year where my sole intention is personal enjoyment.  I wont blame the 
scene for this change.  I dont care whether "its" changed or "I" have 
changed.  Things are different.

Regardless, my days in the "rave scene" are coming to a close.  Ten years 
ago I found the music.  Five years ago I began to rave.  2 years ago I got 
into vending. 2 years ago I djed at a rave.  1 year ago I threw my own rave. 
  (Hell I have even sold drugs at a rave before!) The metamorphisis is 
complete.

Time to move on soon...

Until then, I will make fun of stupid ravers.

adam

PS: Start going to Indy parties and you will get cynical REAL fast.  The 
scene there has more drugs in it then I have seen in any other city at any 
time in the past.

>tad
>
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To quote my father, my grandfather, my great
grandfather, my great great grandfather, and so on,
and so forth:  "ARGH!  Kids today..."

Let's face it, when you start to have contempt towards
the kids, it's a sign you're growing up / getting old.

Too old,
Will

--- michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org>
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> >Sometimes I just
> >get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around
> particularly by the
> >people who have been involved in the scene for so
> long.
> 
> compare the ravers of today to the ravers of yore,
> and you'll see why we 
> have such contempt for them sometimes.
> 
>
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>Hey I said stupid ravers!  If that means ALL ravers to *you* then so be it!

Ok.... I did notice you qualified your statement... I wasnt really
addressing your post. Its just I've had these thoughts for awhile.. and
replying to yours seemed like a good jumping off point (so to speak).


>I think its humorous when a girl who knows to put plastic stars in her hat 
>doesnt know the difference between jungle and house.  Its alright if you are 
>new to the music and scene like we all were once.  But why so quick with 
>fashion and slow with the music?  So I will tease her and say, "You know, I 
>really have no idea what the difference is either!  Electronic music sounds 
>all the same to me."  Is that so wrong!

To some people fashion is easier than music... I dunno.  Maybe know one
bothered to ever take her seriously enuff to discuss music with her?  but
its easy enuff for her to look at someone and figure out what to wear...
(if she's wearing plastic stars in her hat does that mean she's quick with
fashion?_



>
>I chuckle when I see a 16 year old kid wearing a shirt that says "PIMP" on 
>it is sucking on a pacifer.  Surely you can see the humor in that!
>

Yes I agree.... I absolutely HATE pacifiers... (but thats just me).
I used to hand out blow pops at parties all the time and if I saw a kid
sucking on a pacifier I immediately gave them a blow pop (in the hopes
they'd take the pacifier out)  Does that make me candy??????

>I also think its sorta of funny when I see people blowing through tubes on 
>each others faces.  Sometimes one of them will shake the others head 
>VIGOROUSLY while doing this!  Its a sight!

yeah it is strange.... have you ever witnessed this first hand?  *shrug*
the first time I saw it it wierded me out... *shrug*   I dunno.


>
>And then sometimes I will get mad.  Like the 18 year old kid who took his 13 
>(!!!) year old brother to his first rave and gives him a roll of extacy (all 
>of these stories are true by the way).   The 13 year old spends the entire 
>night sitting next to me waving glow sticks in front of his face (which I 
>probably sold him) while his brother is out raving!
>

Thats wrong and fucking stupid, I agree.



>I am in a serious moral dilema here folks.  I dont know whether to keep 
>selling masks with vicks, pacifers, and shirts that say "burn out" on them 
>(hey look at me!  I use so many drugs I have forgotten that Burn Out isnt a 
>compliment!) while simultaneously decrying drug abuse or say fuck it and 
>find another way to earn spending money.  I only go to a handful of raves 
>each year where my sole intention is personal enjoyment.  I wont blame the 
>scene for this change.  I dont care whether "its" changed or "I" have 
>changed.  Things are different.
 
Yous should be in a serious moral dilema.





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my friend krista recorded this off of the radio.  

you should have a listen -- it's only just over a minute long.

(93.1 wdrq, detroit)

http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~voigtjr/drq.ram

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In a message dated 2/15/0 8:49:09 AM, michael wrote:

<<"i can't turn around any more without bumping my record bag into someone 
else's"  - crow from columbus

>Speaking of the whole dancing thing... I heard a ~beautiful~ quote on the
>way back from 2 1200.
>A kid who works with me said this:  "Everyone wants to be a dj, I dont want
>to be a dj.  I just want to be the best dancer, I can be">>

word!...everybody & their mother is a dj here in columbus!!
...and everybody & their mother spins jungle!!...make me
nauseous...the only thing left that's underground here are
the liquid dancers!!...


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In a message dated 2/15/0 9:18:27 AM, michael wrote:

<<in the past, i have (on several occasions) made derogatory comments 
regarding the general intelligence level (or lack therof) on mw-raves.  i 
would like to apologize.

after spending a few painful weeks subbed to pb-cle-raves, i have learned 
that things can be worse.  much worse.>>

word em up...i think the IQ level dropped about 100 points
after i left pb-cle...with most of the posts ending in a
flame war between ryan bimbo & tom cox over who's got
the bigger prick!!...but then again that's how most of your
flames end up with, michael...but i guess, you do it with
some ingenuity working in some offbeat racist remark
along with your glo-stick shooting poop chute...it's
obvious you're a flamer, but atleast you flame with some
pizzaz...omigawd, did i just compliment michael?...i must
still be feelin woozey after my surprise valentine's day
nookie last night!...too many porn gatherings in a row!


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Well..the Funkster is suppose to be at South Side 4 in Chicago on the 4th=
 of
march (or is it the 5th)...but I heard he's suppose to be at the Metro th=
is
Friday....

and as far as ghetto/booty house goes...it's fun...it has it's place...an=
d i
think it's time to shake what my mamma and daddy gave me this friday @ th=
e
metro.....so if this is true...somebody..let me knooooow

and about the party in Kalamazoo...i wouldn't mind going back....just got=
ta
score a ride.  last time I was there was for Sector 616.....and for some
strange reason...people thought i was Green Velvet...hmmmm..besides that.=
=2EI
Had a blast..







Is this the same DJ Funk "responsible for "Pussy Ride", "Hoes in Da
House 99" and many other booty anthems"?  He was at the Orbit Room's
weekly Revolution night in Grand Rapids this past Friday.  That was the
first time I'd seen him spin, but he's been there 3 or 4 times since
September.



So, it sounds like he's still around.  I wasn't too impressed with him,
actually.  I don't think ghetto/booty house is my thing..  His "dancers"
didn't look like they were having any fun either :)

"And if that ain't enough...he's got dancers, dog!  And they bout it!"


> Fuego!
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> Who anyone happen to know the name of that guy that dictates his
philosophy
> and advice about life over trip-hop music?

DJ Spooky perhaps??

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anyone have any info on a short story by WG ('The Gernsback
Continuum') that was made into a short TV film in the UK called
'Tomorrow Calling' in 1995? if someone has a copy of it, please e-mail
me privately. thanks.

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naw adam just means you and i need to spend more time hangin out :-)

-that bitch iySyS-

>PS: I have started to make fun of stupid ravers when vending.  Does this
>mean I am immoral person?  I dont think they realize it so it doesnt really
>hurt anyone...

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A B C D E F G H I gotta' gal wears her toenails long
Drives a red Barracuda, singin' meat packer songs
And she ain't from Kalamazoo 

A B C D E F G H I gotta' friend lived in a
Mercedes-Benz
Then a 55 Chrysler where the trunk never ends
And the plates say Kalamazoo 

He had a steady job and watched what he spent
He'd say I don't believe in payin' no goddamn rent
I'll squirrel away every goddamn cent
And buy my own damn house in Kalamazoo 

I knew a guy that mangled his hand
And he went from pipe fittin' to a hot dog stand
They say last year he cleared fifty grand
Selling dogs round Kalamazoo 

She turned to the world with a bastard child
Said, "I just can't handle him he's too damn wild"
But the years and the liquor have made him mild
And he lays around Kalamazoo 

--- Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 06:30:17 2000
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From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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o.k..o.k..that was funny...but this is the last post of the night..i'm
practically delirious right..think i'll listen to that live feed on
winamp...and crash....but yea..kalamazoo rocked....when i last went....th=
e
site for sector 616 was off the hook....and the people there were cool as=
 =

hell...and I didn't know a soul there, but hey...i'm
gone...tired...very....sleeeeepy....

any word on Dj Funk on friday in chicago @ the Metro...let me know...

nighty night....
Respect yo self...and Respect others yo...it's the way

Fuego :)



William Adams <insanityfr@yahoo.com> wrote:
A B C D E F G H I gotta' gal wears her toenails long
Drives a red Barracuda, singin' meat packer songs
And she ain't from Kalamazoo =


A B C D E F G H I gotta' friend lived in a
Mercedes-Benz
Then a 55 Chrysler where the trunk never ends
And the plates say Kalamazoo =


He had a steady job and watched what he spent
He'd say I don't believe in payin' no goddamn rent
I'll squirrel away every goddamn cent
And buy my own damn house in Kalamazoo =


I knew a guy that mangled his hand
And he went from pipe fittin' to a hot dog stand
They say last year he cleared fifty grand
Selling dogs round Kalamazoo =


She turned to the world with a bastard child
Said, "I just can't handle him he's too damn wild"
But the years and the liquor have made him mild
And he lays around Kalamazoo =


--- Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
> and about the party in Kalamazoo...i wouldn't mind


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> >A kid who works with me said this:  "Everyone wants to be a dj, I dont
want
> >to be a dj.  I just want to be the best dancer, I can be">>
>
> word!...everybody & their mother is a dj here in columbus!!
> ...and everybody & their mother spins jungle!!...make me
> nauseous...the only thing left that's underground here are
> the liquid dancers!!...

    Man what's the big deal with "liquid"? Who cares? so someone trained you
to dance just like them, where's the personal expression in that? Whatever
happened to just feeling your own groove and going with it... I dunno, maybe
I'm missing something here, but personally when I get funky I like to really
get funky, if I wanted to dance like everybody else I'd be into country...
=]

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THERE'S A BUSH VIDEO ON ON MTV RIGHT NOW!!!!

chad


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In a message dated 2/16/0 6:39:00 AM, matt wrote:

<<Man what's the big deal with "liquid"? Who cares? so someone trained you

to dance just like them, where's the personal expression in that? Whatever

happened to just feeling your own groove and going with it... I dunno, maybe

I'm missing something here, but personally when I get funky I like to really

get funky, if I wanted to dance like everybody else I'd be into country...

=]>>

um, obviously you are quite clueless about liquid dancing, since
no liquid dancer dances exactly like another one...it's what makes 
liquid so unique, everbody has their own style...i know for a fact that 
nobody has my liquid style...because it has taken over 8 years to
perfect my own style...takes some real skill to move all of your body
perfectly in tune with the beat of the music...so that you can actually 
see the music flowing thru your body... the best liquid dancers make it 
look so easy, but trust me it takes years to perfect to the point of 
flawlessness...i'm still pushing the limit myself...but at the same 
time i realize i'm way out of practice now, since i'm too busy working
now...

but hands down, i would definitly choose watching a bad ass liquid
dancer movin to the beat than trainspottin the dj the whole night
...on the east coast, you can actually see the dancers vibin off each
other, but for the most part, the midwest still hasn't quite evolved
from its dj staring mentality...

but as previously mentioned in order to truly appreciate an art, 
one must first learn to love and move away from the jealous hater 
mentality (which unfortunately seems to dwell quite heavily on
this list, infamous for its shit talkers & player haters)...


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>THERE'S A BUSH VIDEO ON ON MTV RIGHT NOW!!!!

There's bush on mtv?  what?

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>i know for a fact that
>nobody has my liquid style...because it has taken over 8 years to
>perfect my own style...

nobody has your liquid "style" because you look like you are chasing a 
fucking hamster through your clothes, people are afraid to get near you.

>...on the east coast, you can actually see the dancers vibin off each
>other

yeah "HOLY FUCK I'M DUSTED OUT OF MY MIND ARE YOU AN ALIEN" "FUCK ME I WILL 
VIBE OFF YOU LET'S GO KILL!!!!!!!"  "YOU CAN FLY!"  "YOU ARE RIGHT 
ARRGHGHGHGHGH!!"

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>...takes some real skill to move all of your body
>perfectly in tune with the beat of the music...so that you can actually 
>see the music flowing thru your body... 


Give me a speaker to fuck anyday baby.

oomph oomph oomph oomph

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>Ok... now I'm going to say something I have noticed from ~ravers~ it seems
>every raver I know claims not to be a raver they area all 'djs' or
>'promoters' or .... or aspiring to be aformentioned (I'm not saying I'm not
>guilty of this just... well)  all these same people seem to have nothing
>but contempt for ravers.  Constantly talking down about ravers etc... my
>question is who are these djs planning on playing music for? (and why?)
>who are these promoters expecting to show up at their parties?? (and why
>are tehy throwing parties?)  If its so fucking un-cool to be 'ravey' why do
>any of these people have anything to do with the scene? Sometimes I just
>get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around particularly by the
>people who have been involved in the scene for so long.

some of us care about the music above anything else.  i play music for my 
own enjoyment, and if someone else happens to like it, that's great.  also, 
if someone else happens to be playing music that i like, that's great too.  
this has pretty much become a rare occasion for me, because promoters don't 
like to take chances, and rave has become business as usual.

and honestly, i could give a fuck less about a bunch of 15 year old "rebels" 
latching onto the next big trend, defying their "stupid parents" and doing a 
bunch of drugs in the hopes of "fitting in".  escaping their terrible 
suburban lives.  i really feel for them, let me tell you.

i am a judgmental chap.  i am a pessimist.  i have a lot of anger.  sue me.  
i'm not going to harp more on what else i hate about the rave scene, because 
that would fill up a book and a half.  maybe when i give it all up, you'll 
get that from me.

i agree with adam meadows a lot, and i think we come from pretty much the 
same boat.  i too only go out for personal enjoyment a handful of times a 
year.  usually i'm vending, or djing, or doing something else.  sometimes i 
wish i wasn't so involved.  but if i wasn't involved, i would have been gone 
a LONG time ago.

so, the reasons i still go out at all:

+ i enjoy listening to music, and there's no under 21 music scene in madison 
anymore, besides raves.  (translation:  there's nothing else to do)
+ i enjoy checking out the hot raver chicks.
+ i enjoy hanging out with friends and seeing acquaintances.
+ the money i make off of it helps pay my bills.
+ it's a good place to make connections.
+ i have, in the past, met a lot of wonderful people and made some great 
friends through this scene.
+ i enjoy the memories that i have accrued.
+ once in a while, something renews my faith in these events that i've been 
attending for quite a spell.

usually, i don't have to renew my faith because i have learned how to pick 
and choose events that i know i'm going to have a great time at, that i know 
aren't going to suck.  and, i know how to make the most of a situation if it 
warrants me doing so.  whether that be ignoring everyone and doing my own 
thing, or making fun of ravers for my own personal amusement.

that's my post.

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the psychosis archives are up!
check it out:

http://chemlab.org


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> >THERE'S A BUSH VIDEO ON ON MTV RIGHT NOW!!!!
>  
>  There's bush on mtv?  what?
>  

if you like bad nirvana rip-offs with no talent clap your hands!



(not clapping)
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Peace.

Physical Science Productions presents

"JUNGAHOLICS"

Friday, Feb. 18, 2000
Floyd's PHA Masonic Lodge #23
817 N. 12th Street (near corner of 12th and Union)
Lafayette, IN.

6 hours of the slickest Drum and Bass, Jungle, and broken beats 
brought to you to the "junga-holics" of Purdue University, and
special guests.

Admission, 5 dollars
Doors open at 10 pm EST until...........

Line Up:

Tone Def's Atari Logic and Junior Varsity
featuring Frankenstyles, B-sides, and Melvin Lester
(http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/~matternj/media/newsnd.html)
hip-hop, break beats, skratchin', mc-ing

Misfit - (Parallel Research, http://www.parallelresearch.com)
Purdue Alumn, and heavy hitter in the Chicago/Mid-West jungle scence. 
Drum+Bass potpourri at its finest

Melville Jenkins (PBS, http://expert.cc.purdue.edu/~puraves)
The Jump Up Master

Dayglo (PBS)
Sweet and Sour Jungle, from Dark to Jazzy

Divine Ruler - (Physical Science, http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/physical )
Old Skool and Ragga bidness, lots of amen ra ka breaks.

Dj Shotokan (PBS)
The marriage of hip-hop and jungle.

For information and directions, contact
allah@metalab.unc.edu
http://metalab.unc.edu/nge/physical
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 10:06:48 2000
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I've set up a new webpage and wanted to share the address with all you
fine folks.
http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/fishead

currently on-line:
 - cd, cassette and 12" reviews sections.
 - comprehensive list of gigs pending and played 
   (with links to flyers and promoter websites)
 - interviews with Unit, Kid 606, La Peste and
   Dr. Butcher MD

coming soon:
 - archives of old columns for Massive Magazine
 - more reviews
 - world wide fishead - columns with links to the
   strangest pages I can find.


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actually my answer "chris rock" was just a piss-take, but i'll include your 
answer in this post to the list so whomever asked originally can see 
it.  to post, just send mail to dpayer@umich.edu !  err wait i mean 
mw-raves@hyperreal.org  :P

At 04:01 AM 2/16/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Dunno if this has been answered or not, and I'm not quite sure how to post 
>to the whole mailing list yet. Anyway... The guy you may be thinking of is 
>Baz Luhrman. He did a song called "Everybodys Free (To Wear Sunscreen)" 
>where he quoted the graduation speech from the 1997 class at MIT (me 
>thinks). Hope this helps...
>John
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 10:25:11 2000
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Adam Meadows wrote:

> ...do those little plastic stars in the bills of ravers' hats actually
> 'mean' anything (like how many times theyve candy flipped, etc) or are they
> just for looks....
>
> If they are for just looks, well, then thats depressing.

Good question!

I think for every piece of candy ass you get you get a star or
something...  Or maybe for every year you've been raving,
or for every time a party has been shut down because you
did too much acid and ran around naked screaming that
the devil was after you...  They must signify something.. I
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 10:45:26 2000
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Hey... just thought I'd intro myself... My name is John, I live in Des 
Moines, IA... SUX!!! This "no dance law" in Iowa has kept me from raves for 
sooooo long. I have recently started buckling down and driving 1 1/2-4 hours 
to go to parties... Really makes you raise your expectations. My most recent 
endeavors have been Canned Beats in Omaha, NE; and whatever it was at the KC 
Soccer dome like 1 1/2 weeks ago (didn't get a flyer, word of mouth.) Anyone 
know of any upcoming events a little closer than KC or Mpls??? Also, are 
there any certain promoters to watch out for, due to bad experiences in the 
past??? Kinda new to the scene, but have loved every minute of it (exept 
waiting 2 hours in the cold after driveing 3 1/2 for the party in KC, only 
to get shut down an hour later.) Anyway... this post is long enough!

Later,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 13:55:30 2000
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hey y'all...

support the UR folks in their fight against the corporate plagiarization of
"the jaguar"

get the ORIGINAL artist's version (plus a bunch more---remixes, from j.
mills, Octave One and others + nu trax) at the link below

>--- Dj Bliss <bliss@RenegadeRhythms.com> wrote:
>>
>> The resistance has begun....
>>
>>
>> http://www.submerge.com/CompactDiscs/4WCD-4049.html



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 14:20:42 2000
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>Basically, charging 25.00/person w/ about 3000-4000 presales (oversold, the
>venue probably couldn't even hold that many) == somewhere around 100 grand
>for family werks. So even IF they did pay all the dj's (which is doubtful),
>they made a good 75 large there. Lovely...
>
I'm not trying to defend FW in any way, but I think you've underestimated 
the cost of the party considerably.  Bob Sinclair alone consisted of four 
first class tickets from Paris in addition to their fee.  It adds up quick.  
FW claims that the party cost 60,000, but I'd guess that it was around 40, 
45.  Still they make a sick amount of money and they failed to take care of 
the people giving it to them. I refused to go to the party, and I'm glad I 
stayed home.  It's all about Frostbite anyway.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 14:58:43 2000
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Hey Brandon Im still on the list, I'm just stalking it. Well I have to shime 
in hear for everyone who thought love sucked and went last year....you 
fucking idiots!!!!!  I totally knew that it would be a shitty experience and 
I have figured out the key to happiness is learning from my mistakes which I 
did, so instead of wasting my time getting "frostbite" (hehehe thats funny) 
like i did last year, I actually made a useable recording for a tape, maybe 
I'll actually put one out now.  anyway--everyone can come say hi to me this 
weekend at Frostbite if you're going to be there--I'll be doing coat check 
and talking about dungeons and dragons with one of my gamer friends.

Adam Sjogren
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"My 909 has a picture of Chris Liberator on it"
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Trilogy alwayz checks Id'z. At least everytime I've been there.

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I know that I'll be in NYC to see Funk spin this Sunday night. I dunno bout 
Friday though, sorry kidd.

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today is bekka's birthday!!!!  

she's an old fart.

send her a card or something.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GIRL!!  =)


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  {{{Well..I've seen liquid dancers and yeah, they look tight as hell in =
their
style, but me myself personally...I've got my own style of dancing.  I ju=
st
get up on the floor....and twitch a little..you know just trying to disco=
ver
the pattern of the melodic tunes....and then...i go off....I do my own
thing..and that's what it should be about (side note..this independent fi=
lm
i'm watching this moring is fucked up..it's called Mahler on IFC)  any
wayz....you should dance to the beat of your own internal drum...not beca=
use
you see other liquid dancers....if your gonna liquid..then create your ow=
n
style as such.....peace


"WE ARE APART OF THE LOUD MINORITY AND AS SUCH WE ARE APART OF A MINORTY
THAT'S FULL OF CHANGE....AND FREEDOM!!"

Respect yo self YO!  REspect others :P

Fuego


<<Man what's the big deal with "liquid"? Who cares? so someone trained yo=
u

to dance just like them, where's the personal expression in that? Whateve=
r

happened to just feeling your own groove and going with it... I dunno, ma=
ybe
I'm missing something here, but personally when I get funky I like to rea=
lly
get funky, if I wanted to dance like everybody else I'd be into country..=
=2E

=3D]>>

um, obviously you are quite clueless about liquid dancing, since
no liquid dancer dances exactly like another one...it's what makes =

liquid so unique, everbody has their own style...i know for a fact that =

nobody has my liquid style...because it has taken over 8 years to
perfect my own style...takes some real skill to move all of your body
perfectly in tune with the beat of the music...so that you can actually =

see the music flowing thru your body... the best liquid dancers make it =

look so easy, but trust me it takes years to perfect to the point of =

flawlessness...i'm still pushing the limit myself...but at the same =

time i realize i'm way out of practice now, since i'm too busy working
now...

but hands down, i would definitly choose watching a bad ass liquid
dancer movin to the beat than trainspottin the dj the whole night
=2E..on the east coast, you can actually see the dancers vibin off each
other, but for the most part, the midwest still hasn't quite evolved
from its dj staring mentality...

but as previously mentioned in order to truly appreciate an art, =

one must first learn to love and move away from the jealous hater =

mentality (which unfortunately seems to dwell quite heavily on
this list, infamous for its shit talkers & player haters)...



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HI, i'm EN, gimme a back rub!

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yeah, either that or Tricky.

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John its your lucky day.. April 7th Des Moines Iowa..
The invasion presents.. ALL NIGHT.. its just outside
of Des Moines City Limits.. 

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The only prerequisite for being a raver (in my most
humble opinion), is going to raves.  
Whether your a dj, a promoter, a dancer, a whatever,
if you go to raves by choice, you are a raver.
Now there are different kinds of ravers, but we are
all ravers.



> Ok... now I'm going to say something I have noticed
> from ~ravers~ it seems
> every raver I know claims not to be a raver they
> area all 'djs' or
> 'promoters' or .... or aspiring to be aformentioned
> (I'm not saying I'm not
> guilty of this just... well)  all these same people
> seem to have nothing
> but contempt for ravers.  Constantly talking down
> about ravers etc... my
> question is who are these djs planning on playing
> music for? (and why?)
> who are these promoters expecting to show up at
> their parties?? (and why
> are tehy throwing parties?)  If its so fucking
> un-cool to be 'ravey' why do
> any of these people have anything to do with the
> scene? Sometimes I just
> get really exasperated at the 'tudes thrown around
> particularly by the
> people who have been involved in the scene for so
> long.
> 
> 
> tad  
> 
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Hi, I took my 13 year old brother to a rave a couple of weeks ago gave him
some drugs and haven't seen him since.  If anyone has seen a short skinny
blond kid that looks a little lost can you hit me back on the list?  He
should hopefully respond to 'Timmy' if those drugs I have him didn't fuck
with his mind too much.. :)

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	Hehe, luke and I are the official "raver freaks" of our office, even though
I know there's a few others that go to parties occasionally... =]

        -- Matt Murphy --

> The only prerequisite for being a raver (in my most
> humble opinion), is going to raves.
> Whether your a dj, a promoter, a dancer, a whatever,
> if you go to raves by choice, you are a raver.
> Now there are different kinds of ravers, but we are
> all ravers.




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reminds me of something the i heard at id...
"if you're riding a tractor to a rave, you might be a redneck."

love,
a redneck

>you might be a raver..if you can't help but to bust a move and "shake what 
>yo
>mama gave you" when DJ Funk get's up on the tables.....
>
>hell you ass might be a raver if the first thing you do once the party is 
>over
>is to get ready for the after party.....

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Boogie Knights & Kindred Groove present
VIBALICIOUS 2
The Stickmen - Tag Team - Toronto
Thomas - Wicked Crew - NYC
DJ 3D - Chicago
DJ Skip - Chicago
Exorcist - New Jersey
Jethrox - Milwaukee
n.9 - Kansas City
Frankie Vega - Chicago

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*more talent to be announced*






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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 18:18:40 2000
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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:20:42 -0600
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I just heard this tune and I love it... this is a rare occasion.

http://www.planetxusa.com/audio/20000211/51293.ram

It's a new DJ Kalm tune on CIA... I really like the 2nd tune on that clip
"Violet". Sounds like an indie rock riff or something :).

BTW, anyone get a chance to hear the new Chronic EP? It's a Trinity thing
(Dillinja), and one of the tracks uses that funky guitar that Dillinja was
working on in the Metalheadz video. I think theres some sound clips of it at
www.vinyl-net.com if your interested. You really can't go wrong with an EP
when theres a track called "Supa Niggas" on it though =P

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when you gettin into KC??? we'll have to practice some responsible 
drinking...

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEKKA !!!!!
mines tomorrow :-)

-that bitch iySyS-


>From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
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>Subject: [mw] hey everybody!!
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:27:18 -0500 (EST)
>
>today is bekka's birthday!!!!
>
>she's an old fart.
>
>send her a card or something.
>
>HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GIRL!!  =)
>
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--- Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The only prerequisite for being a raver (in my most
> humble opinion), is going to raves.  
> Whether your a dj, a promoter, a dancer, a whatever,
> if you go to raves by choice, you are a raver.
> Now there are different kinds of ravers, but we are
> all ravers.

Tell it how it is Jon... 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 18:38:23 2000
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Hey I go to raves on occasion and I have the word "freak" tattooed on my 
body, does that make me a raver freak?

>
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:10:23 -0600
>From: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
>Subject: RE: [mw] what I want to know is...
>
>	Hehe, luke and I are the official "raver freaks" of our office, even 
>though
>I know there's a few others that go to parties occasionally... =]
>
>         -- Matt Murphy --
>
> > The only prerequisite for being a raver (in my most
> > humble opinion), is going to raves.
> > Whether your a dj, a promoter, a dancer, a whatever,
> > if you go to raves by choice, you are a raver.
> > Now there are different kinds of ravers, but we are
> > all ravers.
>
>
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 18:41:43 2000
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hey adam j.  put *this* on your page.  that'll learn ya!

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/8405/plur.html


and remember:
PLUR is one of the most important qualities of a rave. PLUR is the key to
preserving and ensuring a good vibe. If you see someone who is ruining the
vibe, please talk to hem in a respectful way. Let them know instead of
looking at the person in disgust. Try to help others who do not know to
understand the ravers social code of ethics. Preach PLUR to those who
don't know. Spread the good vibe throughout all that you do. Bring PLUR
out of the rave as well, take it with you in your heart to school and
work. With PLUR nothing else matters. I have PLUR for myself and for you.
That's all anybody needs. The four simple ways to solve the problems of
the world. Peace. Love. Unity. Respect.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 18:43:15 2000
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Timmy, my name is Timmy.. but I dont think I am your
brother.. but someone did give me drugs.. but i dont
think i'm 13  hmmmm..  I think the drugs could have
messed with my mind.. hmmm.. 

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DESTRUCTION THREE: GODS OF BEER AND ASS.

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> Hey I go to raves on occasion and I have the word "freak" tattooed on my 
> body, does that make me a raver freak?

no it makes your a big fricken dork =]

bwhahahahahahahaha

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responsible 
drinking...

Could ya teach me cowboy.. Oh ya good set at ATL...
 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 18:53:00 2000
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i'm still "en", can i be a "raver"?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 18:53:33 2000
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I am afraid...I am very afraid...more long drives to urbana to get wasted 
with a bunch of web geeks...look out caus me and gotti will have dirt cheap 
beer and I'll have whiskey...fuck me.

dylan "tranerek" dorrell


>From: mattdemon <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
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D-licious presents

*--- D-licious ---*

Saturday April 1, 2000

@ Nebraska National Guard Armory 6929 Mercy Road Omaha, Nebraska
D-licious 24 hr. info line: 402-733-2743

7 pm - 6 am


--+++º Come join us in a moment of history where the present meets the 
future in a night of music, dance, and love.º+++--

--+++º D - L I C I O U S º+++--

CARL CRAIG ( DETROIT _ PLANET E COMMUNICATIONS )
Dancefloor experimentalist and top Detroit techno producer Carl Craig has 
few equals in terms of the artistry, influence, and diversity of his 
recordings. Carl has recorded some of the most sublime Detroit techno since 
godfathers Juan Atkins and Derrick May were at their peak. Carl is a true 
living legend.

SUPER STAR DJ KEOKI ( LOS ANGELES _ MOONSHINE RECORDS )
One of the must influential djs in the underground scene. From his early 
days at New York's Disco 2000 and the legendary Limelight. Keoki has played 
all over the US and has been steadily playing throughout the world for the 
last year. This is a rare oppurunity to see " The Bad Boy of Techno"

DANNY THE WILDCHILD :::: ( CHICAGO _ Canvas Records +/ Strength Recordings)
Everything you heard about Danny the Wilchild is only a portion of what you 
will hear this night from this favorite. You wanted him and asked for him. 
His sets are moving and his tapes are amazing. His HIP HOP influenced JUNGLE 
hits hard and fast and always keeps the party
jumpin.***LISTED IN URB'S NEXT 100

STARBABY :::: ( New Orleans _ Freebass Society )
Highly admired. Starbaby has been one of the top progessive djs in the south 
east for years. He is known for his epic mixes which have been heard from 
the infamous Freebass parties including Zoolo to clubs all over the US.

DAN DELIVERANCE :::: ( Kansas _ Intergrated Recrdings )

Zak C. :::: ( Lincoln, NE _ Phul Phunk )

G Spot :::: ( Lincoln, NE _ Till Dawn )

DJ Kennedy :::: (Houston, TX _ D-licious )

Kaos ::: ( Omaha, NE _ Not so Massive Massive )

Lee ::: ( Omaha, NE _ Not so Massive Massive )

Gabriel Star ::: ( Lincoln, NE _ 360 Productions +/ Syquil )

Professor Goat :::: (Orlando, FL _ Priority +/Urban Wax )

DJ Snafu :::: ( Orlando, FL _ Dreamtech +/ D-licious )

Glenn Okada ( Orlando, FL _ D-licious +/ 3Rythms )

$19 presale $23 day of show
only limited amount of presale tickets

directions to d-licios:

venue: National Guard Armory
       6929 Mercy Road
       Omaha, Nebraska

coming from the west:
      take I-80, eastbound, into omaha. stay on I-80 and look for the 72nd
St. exit.  Turn off the 72nd Street ramp and turn left(northbound) at the
traffic light.  Continue northbound until you reach Mercy Road.  Turn right
onto Mercy Road.  The National Guard Armory will be on the right hand side.

coming from the east
      take I-80, westbound, into omaha. stay on I-80 and look for the 72nd
St. exit.  Turn off the 72nd Street ramp and turn right(northbound) at the
traffic light.  Continue northbound until you reach Mercy Road.  Turn right
onto Mercy Road.  The National Guard Armory will be on the right hand side.

coming from the south:
      take I-29, northbound, into Council Bluffs, Iowa.  I-29 will connect
with I-80 in Council Bluffs.  Take I-80, westbound, into Omaha.  From here,
follow directions for "Coming from the East"

coming from the north:
      take I-29, southbound, into Council Bluffs, Iowa.  I-29 will connect
with I-80 in Council Bluffs.  Take I-80, westbound, into Omaha.  From here,
follow directions for "Coming from the East"


-Plenty of Free Secure parking
-Many free give-aways

Prices:
$19 presale
$23 Day of Show

Info Line: 402-733-2743
E-mail: info@d-licious.cc
Website: www.d-licious.cc



" All DJs and Acts listed have been selected by D-licious for their own 
individual style and
  music versatility.  We try hard to please each and evryone of you.  And in 
doing so, we hope
  you will enjoy the musical content of all D-lcious events. "



For info on presale tickets, party and directions please call the infoline.
Info #: 402-733-2743

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Aw, shit!  May's going to be insane!

D3
WTW4
Pandemonium
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GOD DAMN!

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I am sorry to say that the drugs DID fuk with his mind a bit.  He keeps 
asking me to loosen the straps on his arms but they really aren't that tight. 
 I will return him as soon as we are finished filming although we may be 
contacting you again when the promotional tour for the video starts in 
Singapore.
PS: He has been well fed.
-t

In a message dated 2/16/00 12:10:22 PM, ks@mocker.org writes:

<<Hi, I took my 13 year old brother to a rave a couple of weeks ago gave him
some drugs and haven't seen him since.  If anyone has seen a short skinny
blond kid that looks a little lost can you hit me back on the list?  He
should hopefully respond to 'Timmy' if those drugs I have him didn't fuck
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

> when i go to a rave, i prefer to think of myself as "chris."
> 

When I see "chris", I like to think to myself "    ".


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only if you give me a "seabreeze."


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On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, theChef wrote:

> i'm still "en", can i be a "raver"?
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I MISSED IT DO YOU THINK IT WILL BE ON AGAIN>?!>!>?!


On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, -*SpArklBoi*- wrote:

> THERE'S A BUSH VIDEO ON ON MTV RIGHT NOW!!!!
> 
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responsible drinking=happy hardcore=vegan mullets
that will be all

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> when you gettin into KC??? we'll have to practice
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> drinking...
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Laine wrote:

> Boogie Knights & Kindred Groove present
> VIBALICIOUS 2
> The Stickmen - Tag Team - Toronto
> Thomas - Wicked Crew - NYC
> DJ 3D - Chicago
> DJ Skip - Chicago
> Exorcist - New Jersey
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> Boogie Knights           Kindred Groove 
> 314-995-9215             314-567-2041
> boogieknights.net        kindredgroove.com
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> *more talent to be announced*
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"more dates to be announced"


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exactly where does the whole "candy raver" fashion come from?

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i have changed my e-mail address, pending a move to another job...

from now on, please send all dj/production/"rave" shit here:

varsha@mac.com

thanks & bom shankar!
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who do i have to do for one of those "artistically crooked" fucktrance t's?

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    so,like,if one of those little candy kids gives me one of those little hat clip doohickies....does it mean:
  a) lets shag
  b) hi...are you candy,too?
  c) or...does it make me a default raver

anyway....where the hell would i put it?   in my hair?

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and fuck
what happened to the fuck?????

--- mattdemon <demmon@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
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- iySyS- wrote:

> HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEKKA !!!!!
> mines tomorrow :-)

So is mine!



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Happ-E ravers of the MidWest, after spending 6 years in the City of 
Cincinnati (yeah it sounds corny enought), its time for me to move.
I am very glad and kinda sorry leaving this place. I had very good times, 
and very bad times here, but life goes on.
I am unsubscribing from the mailing list today since I am moving to San Fran 
in 2 days.
I know I havent been writing a lot, (almost not at all) but I was always 
reading all the discussions.
Well, I dont wanna make it a film noir; PEOPLE HAVE FUN, and be carefull. 
PLUR (outdated or not it doesn't matter I mean it).
And if you ever visit the city by the Bay, drop me an email :)
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chad clary wrote:

> exactly where does the whole "candy raver" fashion come from?

I think it originally came from E dealers who would dress very
brightly, etc. in order to signify that they were the ones with the
E.  I could be mistaken though.  (I've still seen this... e.g. in some
areas kids with the blinking read lights are 'vectors' for dealers
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>- iySyS- wrote:
>
> > HAPPY BIRTHDAY BEKKA !!!!!
> > mines tomorrow :-)
>
>So is mine!

mine was monday...bah...I HATE evil love day...



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>nobody has your liquid "style" because you look like you are chasing a
>fucking hamster through your clothes, people are afraid to get near you.

Okay, Stevie I love you but this comment is absolutely fucking 
hysterical...just the mental image was enough to send me into fits. Maybe 
your sense of humor isn't so bad all of the time Micheal...Touche!

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  Hey ya'll!  Coming home for a visit from San Fran  ( eek I'm scared of the cold, but I miss the snow)  Wondering if there's anything going on in Madison this weekend, I know Ritchie and John are playing in Chicago, but I want to kick it in my home town...

  Kent?  God who else is on this list?? Help me out, I want to shake my booty a bit while I'm home..

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Yeah I hear Paul, John, Chrisopher, Jason, James, Pete
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I believe England, but I taint sure.

--- chad clary <cellophane_808@hotmail.com> wrote:
> exactly where does the whole "candy raver" fashion
> come from?
> 
> peace-
> chad
> 
> "Those who hear not the music think the dancers
> mad."  (unattributed)
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yes

--- Adam Sjogren <kasjogren@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey I go to raves on occasion and I have the word
> "freak" tattooed on my 
> body, does that make me a raver freak?
> 
> >
> >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 12:10:23 -0600
> >From: "Matt Murphy" <murph@mr.net>
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> >
> >	Hehe, luke and I are the official "raver freaks"
> of our office, even 
> >though
> >I know there's a few others that go to parties
> occasionally... =]
> >
> >         -- Matt Murphy --
> >
> > > The only prerequisite for being a raver (in my
> most
> > > humble opinion), is going to raves.
> > > Whether your a dj, a promoter, a dancer, a
> whatever,
> > > if you go to raves by choice, you are a raver.
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> exactly where does the whole "candy raver" fashion
> come from?

UK Rave. It grew out of the crazy hat, smiley face wearing, white gloved,
brightly colored clothing style that was popular with the hardcore kids in
'91-'92. The "crusties", as they are still called in the UK were the nomadic
raver/squater types who popularized the big pants, as they were trying to
rip off the rasta's loose style of clothing. What we have in the US today is
some kind of bizarre adaptation of all this, with an added touch of "back to
my early youth" schmaltz on the side.

Little fun fact for you: e-masks got popularized by Altern-8, who used to
wear them when they did LIve PAs. Frequency.... Frequency.....

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>Anyway... The guy you may be thinking of is 
>Baz Luhrman. He did a song called "Everybodys Free (To Wear Sunscreen)" 
>where he quoted the graduation speech from the 1997 class at MIT (me 
>thinks).

Actually, the words came from a Chicago Sun-Times column a few years back.
It wasn't an MIT graduation speech, nor was it written by Kurt Vonnegut (as
rumored).

Chris Rock performed a parody of the song, entitled "No Sex in the
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he's supposed to be...the lineup is Joey Beltram, Funk, Paul Anthony, Danny 
the Wild Child...18+, 21 to drink...9pm to 4am, 15 doll hairs

PJ


>From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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>Date: 15 Feb 00 18:55:40 MST
>
>So
>
>Is DJ Funk gonna be @ the Metro in Chicago this Friday???  I live around 
>the
>corner from the place, I guess I should go.  But I'm wondering if this is 
>true
>or not...let me know...let meeee knooooooww :P
>
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Subject: [mw] [Digitalhell] FA: Mackie 1604, Kawai XD-5, PG-1000, and OC Celeron
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Here's a few auctions I have running on Ebay for those
who are interested:

PG-1000 w/ mod chip
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262498929

Kawai XD-5 drum synth
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262512410

Mackie CR-1604 16 channel mixer
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262525145

and

Intel Celeron 366 stable at 100Mhz, 103Mhz (for
[over]clock speeds of 550, 567, respectively).  Also
includes a PPGA to slot-1 adapter and a heatsink/fan
combo.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=262533152

All bids start at $1 with reserves far lower than fair
market price.  I need the cash for a some new gear
investments.

--Will

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me.

pixie



: who do i have to do for one of those "artistically crooked" fucktrance
t's?
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 22:10:32 2000
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I have had several people ask about bus trips for Liquid Grooves April 1st
event, Liquified Universe, with Sasha, Digweed, RITM, grooverider, fabio,
jim masters, garth and Monk.

Well if there is anyone who is intrested in putting together a bus trip from
your area please get back to me ASAP.

The Main fliers will be going to press in a week and in the booklet there
will be a section for bus trips that will have where the bus trip is coming
from and the phone number of the person coordinating the bus trip. If you
want to do a bus trip and get your info listed you must get back to me very
soon.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 22:24:55 2000
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Cook me dinner...thats all it takes.

lookin for crab cakes and stuffed mushrooms and whatever entree you want
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In a message dated 2/15/00 10:04:12 PM Central Standard Time, 
michael@happy.hardcorps.org writes:

<< i love them when they run around giving people things:  hugs, stickers, 
 candy, bracelets, whatever.  i love them when i look out and see them 
 waving their hands around and going wild for these records i brought.  i 
 love them when they stay to help clean up even tho they payed to get in and 
 don't even know you.  etc. >>

I'm loved. I feel special.
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In a message dated 16/02/00 5:25:05 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
OLeSkL@aol.com writes:

<< Cook me dinner...thats all it takes.
 
 lookin for crab cakes and stuffed mushrooms and whatever entree you want
  >>

Richie cooked me some itilian lastnight
you all missed it..

lorie

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 22:59:24 2000
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Yeah I hear that misha spins pussy trance!  Does anybody have any news
about that?

peace
tiffanie  :P


--- Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yeah I hear Paul, John, Chrisopher, Jason, James, Pete
> and Keith are also spinning. Does anybody have any
> news about that?
> 
> Misha
> 
> 
> 
> > this weekend, I know Ritchie and John are playing in
> > Chicago, but I want to kick it in my home town...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 23:04:12 2000
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yeah and I hear tiffanie likes it up the butt from
pussy ass trance dj's

:P
MIsha

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 16 23:14:19 2000
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for those who maybe cofussed:

 richie - plastik,hawtin,ect
 
 ritchie - you don't want to know

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Storm Fuego wrote:

>  (side note..this independent film
> i'm watching this moring is fucked up..it's called Mahler on IFC)  any
> wayz...

On the subject of cable still worth watching, does anybody know if Bravo is still
airing their nod to erotic film ;) ?


> "WE ARE APART OF THE LOUD MINORITY AND AS SUCH WE ARE APART OF A MINORTY
> THAT'S FULL OF CHANGE....AND FREEDOM!!"

"As these styles began to unravel within popular culture, pop's linear time was
shattered forever: there would be no more unified 'movements,' but tribes, as pop
time became forever multiple.  Postmodern."

random ass fuck,
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i know none of you here do e, buuuuut.....


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:55:34 -0800
From: Emanuel Sferios <eman@tsoft.com>
Subject: [dsafe] YOUR lab testing program is ready.

From: Emanuel Sferios <eman@tsoft.com>

Hi everyone!

We didn't win the lottery, but we came close. A millionaire Microsoft 
employee has agreed to pay ALL the laboratory expenses for our 
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What does this mean? Other than it being WONDERFUL, FANTASTIC, 
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1. It means we can now afford to test as many pills as we get sent in !!!

and

2. It means we need to promote the program so people start sending in 
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I'd like to ask ask everyone here to help by posting emails to rave 
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to help spread the word about the program?  We've been holding back 
on promoting the program because we didn't have enough money. 
However, now that we have the money, we should really let users know.

I'd like us to set a goal--if you all are into this--of trying to get 
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We should tell them that the program is FREE and that it is 100% 
legal. All they have to do is follow the instructions on the website 
and remember to send the pill in anonymously. Some people still worry 
that we're not legitimate. Remind them that they can call the 
national office anytime if they want to ask us any questions. Remind 
them that sending in a pill helps others as well as themselves. If a 
$20 pill is too much money for them to lose, suggest that they go in 
with three friends and each pay $5. And remind them its worth it if 
it helps them (and others) avoid fake and adulterated pills.

Remind them that the more people send in pills, the more we can get 
the DXM and other fake stuff off the market.

Seriously everyone, this is YOUR program. It belongs to ALL of us. 
All I did was get it started. But the program now belongs to 
everyone. It's about educating ourselves and making the community 
safer. To be successful, we need to all work together on it. And 
remember, it only works when people send in pills!

So let's all go out and promote the thing. Let's make it so that as 
soon as a new DXM pill is released, EVERYBODY finds out about it 
immediately and NOBODY buys them. We can have an impact on the 
national market here.  Let's go to it!

Hurray Harm Reduction!  HURRAY POPULAR EDUCATION! :-)

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At 02:03 PM 2/16/00 -0500, you wrote:
>exactly where does the whole "candy raver" fashion come from?

milwaukee.  and ann arbor.


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hahaha dude sfraves is like 923874 messages a day, like 29834 times as many 
as mw-raves man, you are so fucked!!!

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Well if I were him and I was on sf-raves, I'd just
delete all the messages without reading 'em - saves a
lot of time. Wait...i already do it here :)

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> like 29834 times as many 
> as mw-raves man, you are so fucked!!!
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I encourage everyone to read this weeks Riverfront Times, the alternative 
read of St. Louis.  It features a good sized article on you guessed it,  the 
Ian
Daily News.  I had no idea about it!  I'm  freakin' out!  I give a big, big 
thanks to Randall Roberts for giving me one of the biggest suprises of my 
life.  You are too kind to me.  I would also like to thank all the people 
that have supported me,  especially my staff and writers.  I couldn't do it 
with out my troops.  I'm the luckiest person alive.
I'm Ian Hard
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michael sed:
<<nobody has your liquid "style" because you look like you are chasing a 
fucking hamster through your clothes, people are afraid to get near you.>>

puhhh-leaze, lets not confuse my dancing style with your
last bed buddy (you've expanded since the glo-sticks and
have learned a few tricks from yur idol richard gere) 
and your latest meal after the poor thang served its
purpose!!!

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housekitten sed:
<<Okay, Stevie I love you but this comment is absolutely fucking 
hysterical...just the mental image was enough to send me into fits. Maybe 
your sense of humor isn't so bad all of the time Micheal>>

lol, i taught michael "the peanut butter jar" and he
gained about 60 pounds!!!

you can only imagine what happened when i taught michael
"the hamster"...poor li'l critters!!!...but atleast now
y'know where that annoyin hamster dance web site came
from...all of michael's past play pets tormented souls
chanting vengence on their tormentor!!!

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which, eerily enough, figures out to be about 40 messages a day....which, on
average, is about right...

scary...
pixie

(oh yeah? yer mom.)


:hahaha dude sfraves is like 923874 messages a day, like 29834 times as many
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:Well if I were him and I was on sf-raves, I'd just
:delete all the messages without reading 'em - saves a
:lot of time. Wait...i already do it here :)


and yet you still somehow manage to reply to them...that's pretty
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Not sure Griggles, I don't watch Bravo that much..just Sundance and IFC. =
 but
I did find out recently that old episodes of Twin Peaks is airing again 9=
:00
Pm...central standard time..i have yet to see this, but that's what i hea=
rd

:)

Fuego


On the subject of cable still worth watching, does anybody know if Bravo =
is
still
airing their nod to erotic film ;) ?


> "WE ARE APART OF THE LOUD MINORITY AND AS SUCH WE ARE APART OF A MINORT=
Y
> THAT'S FULL OF CHANGE....AND FREEDOM!!"

"As these styles began to unravel within popular culture, pop's linear ti=
me
was
shattered forever: there would be no more unified 'movements,' but tribes=
, as
pop
time became forever multiple.  Postmodern."

random ass fuck,
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O.k. after asking the list..i finally decided to take my ass to The Metro=
's
site and here's the info I got....


Friday, February 18

Viebeonauts & Supreme Present

JOEY BELTRAM
DJ FUNK / PAUL ANTHONY
TERRI BRISTOL / NOSMO
DANNY THE WILDCHILD
Hosted by MOJO from Sonic Boom


Tickets: $15
18 & Over
Doors: 9:00

=2E..i'm so there....or at least better be....

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Actually that GAY ASS PUSSY TRANCE

aint that right misha

>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:10:44 -0800 (PST)
>From: Tiffanie Hamilton <keepdamwalive@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [mw] Madison Feb-23-27th
>
>Yeah I hear that misha spins pussy trance!  Does anybody have any news
>about that?
>
>peace
>tiffanie  :P
>

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No way... I"ll tell you where candy raver fashion came from.  One day, I got 
SOOO messed up on drugs, like 30 different kinds, my friends all dressed me 
up like a clown, and tried to make me look as funny as I could.  Other kids 
on drugs KNEW i was a cool cat, so they tried to dress like me.  This was at 
my first rave, back in November of 1999.  Its true.  For real, im not kidding.

-josh

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For those of you running out of ideas I present: 
http://www.jackinworld.com

Gotta love the internet.

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Only to ones posted by yourself and Michael Knight :)

Misha

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Yes, you heard it correct...  If I wanted to watch a bunch of idiots on meth
hop around like rabbits with their fingers pointed out, I'd become a
southern baptist preacher...........  What happened to real music and
culture?  If this is it, I'm done......


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 03:35:29 2000
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I wrote some new songs.  They're weird.  Please tell me what you think of
them, if you feel so inclined.

I made them in realaudio, even though it sounds like ass and it's only
mono, becuase it takes up a lot less bandwidth.

You can check them out at
http://www.atomly.com/music/#songs 

Or:

http://www.atomly.com/music/humanResource.ram
http://www.atomly.com/music/humanResource_hi.ram (hi-quality version)
crazy drums and some bass.

http://www.atomly.com/music/11253978.ram
http://www.atomly.com/music/11253978_hi.ram (hi-quality version)
disjointed beats

http://www.atomly.com/music/struggle.ram
http://www.atomly.com/music/struggle_hi.ram (hi-quality version)
the hardest song i've ever written, i think.  distorted and fast.

http://www.atomly.com/music/drill.ram
http://www.atomly.com/music/drill_hi.ram (hi-quality version)
more crazy drums, more bass.  

Thanks, and sorry for the spam.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:48:39 EST
From: Drum 'n' Bass Kid <pooruglyhappy@hotmail.com>
Subject: [PKU] Chicago Beat CLinic

From: "Drum 'n' Bass Kid" <pooruglyhappy@hotmail.com>

Ok I'm looking for any information, info lines, anything, for a party called 
Chicago Beat Clinic this Saturday. Technical Itch and Decoder are headlining 
I believe. Anyone who can direct me to this info, please get in touch. 
Peace.

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This is the E-Newsletter for the House of Babylon BROductions
of Indpls weeking beginning 2/14/2000

------------------------PLEASURE DOME UPDATE----------------
Everything's still a go with our up-coming full-scale
event THE PLEASURE DOME, featuring Scott Henry, Nigel
Richards, A-Trak and more!  The party will now also
incld a pre-party on Friday March 17th entitled 
PANTY RAID pt1.  PANTY RAiD will feature such talent 
as DJ DEEON (Dancemania/Roule - Chicago), FRANKIE
VEGA (Mushgroove - Chicago), THREEJAY (UndaGround
Elements - Chicago), SHiVA (SUBterror - Indy), and 
JAEDE and CHARLES PAUL (Sista Jade Ent. - Indy) and
will be $5 before midnight and $10 after!  

AFTERHOURS - A free after hours will precede THE 
PLEASURE DOME.  This after hours is BY INVITE ONLY!
To receive an OFFICIAL INVITE, YOU MUST be on our 
e-mail based mailing list!  If you're receiving this
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anyone who would want to be on the mailing list,
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We'll process their request immediately!  The free
afterhours will feature HUGGY from the UK!  It's
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------------------------BUMPASAURUS FLExXx------------
It's official! The DiscoDisciples d'Amour and our 
friends at Organized Chaos haev secured a Thursday 
night event at an up-scale 21+ Indy club!  Each 
Thursday night will feature the HofB HOSTiLE TAKEOVER,
which includes danDAVE, K-STEP, CHOCOLATE, and BLAIR
BROWN!  Once a month, DJs from across the country will
touch down at BF -- so be prepared!  For more info,
incld. info on special guest DJs, official start date
and the location of the venue, please stay tuned or
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organizedchaos@mad.scientist.com
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------------------------MiCROCOSM---------------------
DiscoDisciples d'Amour hasn't forgotten about the 
under 21 folks, either!  MiCROCOSM version 1.0 will 
touch down Friday, March 24th, featuring trance mogals
DJ MODA (SanFran) and OH! DONOVAN (AKA Sean Patrick)
from Ireland!  It will also feature DJ Toki from 
St Louis and some of the Log2 Sound System DJs, incld
Dementia, Adam Abstract, and more!  This event will be
a mere $10 all night long!  Stay tuned for further
details incld. any line-up changes and venue location!
Or, please contact the following e-mail addy:

discohotline@aol.com
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If you would like to book the House of Babylon HOSTILE
TAKEOVER (Chocolate, K-Step, danDave, Blair Brown), 
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housebabylon@aol.com

Please make sure your e-mail contains all pertinent 
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possible.  But hurry!  Dates are going fast!  Peace!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 04:28:56 2000
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or Chicago? i saw some ravers at the show... maybe you were there? Jace in 
Milwaukee (not that OTHER Jace)

"one day you will miss my scream
booming through the universe
questioning your self-esteem
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 04:44:33 2000
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Hello everyone be on the look out for my first story
on Ian Hard Daily News...

Thats   www.ianhardrecoreds.com

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Subject: Re: [mw] Madison Feb-23-27th
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:05:33 -0600
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Madison Events Feb 23-27 based on our Event List:

Wed Feb 23  {Madison} G.I.V.E.
Cardinal Bar, 418 E Wilson St
DJs: Drum N Bass / Jungle Night with Michelle Sainte-Bioforce (NY), Philly
B-ready and Hedzhi (Champion Systems - Milwaukee), Nathan (Jungle -
Madison - Nice Musique), MC's Abel (Milwaukee) and Super Irie
(Kingston/Madison)
18+ / starts at 9pm / Info: 608.251.0080

Wed Feb 23  {Madison} A/Live Wednesday
Inferno Danceclub, 1718 Commercial Ave
DJ: Reason For Leaving, Groovulous Glove
21+ / 9pm-2:00am Info: 608.245.9583

Thu Feb 24  {Madison} Octopussy (Solidstate & Nice Musique)
Cardinal Bar, 418 E Wilson St
DJs: John Aquaviva (Definitive, Canada), Synergy (SolidState, Milwaukee)
18+ / starts at 8:30pm / Info: 608.251.0080

Thu Feb 24  {Madison} Retro 80's Explosion
Inferno Danceclub, 1718 Commercial Ave
DJ: Teeny-Tiny Grover
$3 after 10 (free before) / 21+ / 9pm-2am Info: 608.245.9583

Fri Feb 25  {Madison} Luma Theatre of Light Dancers
Luma Theatre of Light, 4535 Helgesen Dr
NOTE: This is not a rave - this is a show that you sit and watch ... and
boy, I was impressed! (you can go to the Inferno afterwards!) I've invited
these dancers to come to DELTA March 17!
All ages / 8pm-10pm / $12 students $15 adults / info: 222-0077

Fri Feb 25  {Madison} Sweet Ass Sweet (Chaotic Media)
Inferno Danceclub, 1718 Commercial Ave
DJ: Code, Nim & Cyberius present: Kook, Whiteknuckle Trip, The Monos, Fornix
$5 / 21+ / 9pm-2:30am Info: 608.245.9583

Sat Feb 25  {Madison} Luma Theatre of Light Dancers
Luma Theatre of Light, 4535 Helgesen Dr
NOTE: This is not a rave - this is a show that you sit and watch ... and
boy, I was impressed! (You can go to the Inferno afterwards) I've invited
these dancers to come to DELTA March 17!
All ages / 8pm-10pm / $12 students $15 adults / info: 222-0077

Sat Feb 26  {Madison} Chrome
Inferno Danceclub, 1718 Commercial Ave
DJ: Tommy Matthews (Aggressive Dance Beats)
21+ / 9pm-2:30am Info: 608.245.9583

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
Free Email Reminders of Madison-Milwaukee Events:
http://www.technoheaven.com/calendar.htm
Madison-Milwaukee Events, Clubs, Stores, Resources:
http://www.technoheaven.com/madison-milwaukee.htm


----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Moodie <booty333@ihateclowns.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 1:57 PM
Subject: [mw] Madison Feb-23-27th


>   Hey ya'll!  Coming home for a visit from San Fran  ( eek I'm scared of
the cold, but I miss the snow)  Wondering if there's anything going on in
Madison this weekend, I know Ritchie and John are playing in Chicago, but I
want to kick it in my home town...
>
>   Kent?  God who else is on this list?? Help me out, I want to shake my
booty a bit while I'm home..
>
> ~Marianne



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> Hello everyone be on the look out for my first story
> on Ian Hard Daily News...
> 
> Thats   www.ianhardrecoreds.com

    Usually helps if the link is good... www.ianhardrecords.com

 
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You can all Type... I'm new at this Writer thing 
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Full Spectrum presents on 05.13.2000
                Chicago Illinois

          Samsara - the rebirth
Yes we are bringing samsara back to chicago
after last aprils samsara in indy.  

                   lineup TBA


        also be on the lookout for 
                     
                 Bonkers Dos
            November 11th 2000
                Chicago Illinois


check out the website for more info

http://members.home.net/djgruve - Full Spectrum

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I am looking for mixed tapes of all different styles. If any dj's here have 
any copies to send out, please email me.



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>I have had several people ask about bus trips for Liquid Grooves >April 1st 
>event, Liquified Universe, with Sasha, Digweed, RITM, >grooverider, fabio, 
>jim masters, garth and Monk.

WOAH!!!
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while just surfin' around i discovered an excellent web page on the techno 
scene in Slovenia

LOTS of real audio samples of a LOT of music that is coming out of Slovenia 
that i had no idea about. (i'm an Umek fan, but i had no idea about labels 
like Absense or Consumer Recreation)

http://megaklik.si/sol/index.html

i highly recomend it for people who dig the music of Umek, Indigo Kennedy, 
Space DJz, and in general: hard edgy techno.


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I have the lyrics somewhere if anyone cares
enough to be interested.

Peace and love,

Mike aka Dr. Bläsé
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:59:00 -0500 Matt Conrad
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> 
> Actually, the words came from a Chicago Sun-Times column a few years 
> back.
> It wasn't an MIT graduation speech, nor was it written by Kurt 
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In a message dated 17/02/00 3:56:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
AzureRecs@aol.com writes:

<< i highly recomend it for people who dig the music of Umek, Indigo Kennedy, 
 Space DJz, and in general: hard edgy techno.
  >>


adam, have I told you lately that YOU FUCKING RULE  ?

cuzzz yaaaaa do :)

<3you
lor

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funny, sunscreem was one of the first bands we interviewed
when i used to work as photographer for unique magazine in
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i will have some demos done shortly. If anyone knows of any small labels i can send them to, it would be cool to let me know!

p.s.  atomly, i'll trade you mine for your fucking tape!

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Yes, his next mix tape is going to be called
THE NOTORIOUS P.A.T.:
EXPERIMENTING WITH MEN

--- Adam Sjogren <kasjogren@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Actually that GAY ASS PUSSY TRANCE
> 
> aint that right misha
> 
> >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:10:44 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Tiffanie Hamilton <keepdamwalive@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [mw] Madison Feb-23-27th
> >
> >Yeah I hear that misha spins pussy trance!  Does
> anybody have any news
> >about that?
> >
> >peace
> >tiffanie  :P
> >
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> >
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YES kick ass, I want one

>From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
>To: Adam Sjogren <kasjogren@hotmail.com>, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Re: MW-Raves-Digest V1 #2973
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>
>Yes, his next mix tape is going to be called
>THE NOTORIOUS P.A.T.:
>EXPERIMENTING WITH MEN
>
>--- Adam Sjogren <kasjogren@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Actually that GAY ASS PUSSY TRANCE
> >
> > aint that right misha
> >
> > >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:10:44 -0800 (PST)
> > >From: Tiffanie Hamilton <keepdamwalive@yahoo.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [mw] Madison Feb-23-27th
> > >
> > >Yeah I hear that misha spins pussy trance!  Does
> > anybody have any news
> > >about that?
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> > >
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stevie you idiot.  they were talking about sunscreen, that stupid spoken 
word top 40 thing.  not the band sunscreem who dj paul liked to rip off!

BUT U KNOW U COULD NEVER MAKE ME LUV U MORE!

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i just realized i don't think this is on any of the online calendars?  heh 
mebbe that's why no-one seems to know it's going on, even tho it's in 2 
days.  btw if anyone wonders, u can come to town early and see raekwon at 
the alrosa villa!

BB Gun Productions invites you to feel the
*IMPACT*

*****

concussion waves by:

BAGEL - jungle
	starbase 23/TFC - pittsburgh

PRIZM with 3 MAN STRUCTURE - hip hop
	surprise/surprise - nmk/bb gun - detroit/columbus

MICHAEL KNIGHT - happy hardcore
	kickinbeats/american cheese - columbus

BOB SFERO - house
	pitch control/love thang - columbus

BEN KENOBI & HAZY - the rebel alliance
	sphere/malfunction/fame/house of styles/happy head - columbus/pittsburgh

DIDI - house
	pittsburgh

J.R. GUATTIERI - old & bitter
	lofty heights/ele mental/p. productions

*****

since this is a non-smoking venue, a 2nd smoking room will be hosted by the 
bb gun crew:
	n-8 sure
	jay
	funklotropic
	dan springer

this event will not be held @ the lab!!

no drugs, weapons, or markers

admission:  $15 or $10 w/2 canned goods
R.O.A.R. in effect

MAIN INFO - 614.470.2719

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 16:53:16 2000
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VESTAX TAKES DJING TO NEXT LEVEL WITH THE VRX-2000 VINYL RECORDER

You're going to want to sit down for this. Vestax has developed a
device, not much larger than a standard DJ turntable, which records to
vinyl. The company hasn't released the specs yet, but the VRX-2000 uses
a special piece of vinyl (not acetate,mind you) to allow you to record
anything you want--CDs, MP3's,tapes, field recordings--onto the holiest
of musical mediums. The vinyl is heavy duty, ensuring it will withstand
constant stylus abuse. And as the Vestax website points out, recordable
vinyl means DJ battles will involve less searching for and grabbing of
records by performers--all their beats, loops, and sound effects can be
arranged
on one slab. Vestax says more information will be released soon, and the
product itself will be available by summer.

More Info at http://www.vestax.co.uk/

Coming up this Tuesday night is Eternal Beats Internet Radio live from
Long Island, New York USA from 10PM-1AM Eastern Time at
http://www.eternalbeats.cjb.net  Join us in the Eternal Beast Chat Room,
talk to the DJs and listeners.  If you have aol or aol instant messenger
my name is DJ Lord V

DJs for 2/22

Lord V (Eternal Beats, NY)
Usul & Magic (Space Kadets Collective, NY)

DJs for 2/29

Lord V (Eternal Beats, NY)
Narotic & Xeno (http://www.gabber.org/stf/)

DJs to look out for in the weeks to come:

Odi, Vicious Vic, Johnny Harcore & many more.

Have a great weekend whatever you do, wherever you go, be safe.  Cya's
Tuesday night.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 17:17:55 2000
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hey did anyone in madison watch fox 47 news at 9. They did a story on E.
Basically they said that E was at clubs and at "rave" parties. But the story
didn't really say the E is bad for you. They just showed where E comes from
and how its smuggled into the united states. They pretty much said if you
deal E you can make alot of cash. It was kind of strange.

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We, the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help
everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more
riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the
blessings of debt-free liberty to our great-great-great-grandchildren,
and ourselves, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some
common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden, deluded,
and other mentally weak folk who surround us.

We hold these truths to be self-evident:  that a whole lot of people are
confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of
No Rights.

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any
other form of wealth.  More power to you if you can legally acquire them,
but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended.  This nation
is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone - not just you!
You may leave the room, change the channel, express a different opinion,
etc., but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
Accept it.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm.  If you
stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect
the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently
wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing.
Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly
help anyone truly in need, but we are quickly growing weary of
subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes
who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of
professional couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care.  That would be
nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in
public health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people.
If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be
surprised if the rest of us try to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others.  If
you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens,
don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a
place where you still won't have the right to a car, a big screen color
TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII: You don't have the right to demand that our children risk
their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience.  We hate
oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to
fight if you want to.  However, we are not required to parent the entire
world and do not want to spend so much of our blood and money battling
each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

ARTICLE IX: You don't have the right to a job.  All of us sure want you
to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect
you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational
training laid before you to make yourself useful.

ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness.  Being an American
means that you have the right to freely pursue happiness - which, by the
way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of
idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of
Rights.


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Does anyone know of any raves during the week of feb 25 through march 5th=
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It's time for a new computer, and I'm thinking about an Imac laptop.
Do any of you have an Imac?  Would any of you really recommend or not 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 19:11:57 2000
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FOR PICTURES OF CHRIS EGE AKA "E-BUNNY" STICKING A BROKEN-OFF BOTTLE OF
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In a message dated 2/17/00 7:32:29 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
TekkgirIie@aol.com writes:

> PS  Does painting mean rolling?
>  hahahah

HAHAHHHA LMFAO.
stupid fuckin' indy kids.

Lorie say: "are you painting?"
indy raver say: "what do you mean?"
Lorie say: "you know, PAINTING, like paint!"
indy raver say: "does that mean rolling?"
Lorie say: "nevermind, i figured with the dust masks you were...."
indy raver say: "ummmm, huh?"
adam say: "hahAHahahAhaHaHHahaHahahHaHaahaHHaHa"








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http://www.emotioneric.com

laugh.
cry.
kill your mother.

bom shankar!
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Yes, the post volume is immense.  But people on the bwgen list still
post "me toos" and stupid questions en masse.  I didn't realize just how
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me too

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>me too

I totally agree.


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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Fergus wrote:
> I totally agree.

Peace. I created you. Peace.

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But see that doesn't count 'cause you had the decency to quote the
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yeah, I agree.

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At 03:07 PM 2/17/00 -0600, you wrote:
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>>me too
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>I totally agree.

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well well well
It seems there is a lot of talk about Vibalicious 2-tropically Twisted! A 
lot of talk from me, my friends, KG, BK,party kids and a few mad scientists. 
Why all the talk?
Well, we have an event that we want to change the scene with. We know where 
st. louis was 2 years ago. We were down and out. No dj wanted to play this 
city. Nobody wanted to throw parties. Boy, have we come a long way!
Today, djs leave st. louis wanting to come back asap. Promoters from other 
cities want to throw parties here. Kids from other cities drive endless 
hours to come here when they could party in their home city. New promoters 
are springing up everywhere.
Our parties have gotten bigger and bigger. They have gotten better and 
better. The price of parties in other cities range anywhere from 20 for a 
normal party to 35 for the "mega raves". Meanwhile st louis gets an out 
rave-o-rama for 15 or 20 on a regular basis. And for 25 dollars we are 
getting great events that rival anything i've paid 35 or more for.
The people that attend our events are amazing. They dance till seven in the 
morning and then, left with no more energy rise up for one last scream, one 
last cheer and then make their way to their car only to find the afterhours 
bumpin till the afternoon! St Louis kids don't quit. They keep going and 
going and going! The vibe is #1 in st louis. No promoter can control that it 
is up to you!
This is the Boogie Knights and Kindred Grooves chance to give you something 
special. An all out extravaganza! We need your help though! You know that 
person who took you to your first party? How about that hippie who likes to 
dance to wierd drum beats? And that drag queen who tears up the dance floor? 
Let us gather the greatest group of people on May 13th to make this 
something special. No drugs are needed! On this night we will be high on 
life. Dream of a perfect party with a perfect group of friends and family! 
It can be yours! It's all up to you! Lets show the world that we can have a 
huge party with a great vibe. Chicago can't do it. I think we can! Thank you 
for all that have supported us in the past! We love you and hope to see you 
MArch 25th at The cosmic boogie JAM! taking place in a virgin venue!


may 13th vibalicious 2 hits the st louis area. taking place in a 4000 person 
capacity venue with plenty of free parking and air conditioning! The 
Stickmen-direct from Toronto performing a 4 turntable tag team! 
Thomas-wicked crew-NYC/SF! 3D-chicago junglist dj&producer! Jethrox-prepare 
to be twisted by the drop bass bomber!
Exorcist-from russia with love!SKIP-pushpac for life!-HOST&DJ-double duty 
for the skip man! N.9-midwest acid techno sensation!-k.c. Dorian-nashville 
junglist! plus more more more more & a little bit more! 2 rooms done the 
only way we know how-tropically twisted!
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you are a complete fucking moron


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YEAH!

(oh, was that directed at moi?!)

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>you are a complete fucking moron

I totally agree.


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[>>you are a complete fucking moron
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[>I totally agree.

right on, man!


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Oh hell since everyone else is.
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Fergus wrote:
> I totally agree.

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> Oh hell since everyone else is.

you couldn't resist, couldja jon?

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http://come.to/detroitraves


On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Ira M. Bargon III wrote:

> Does anyone know of any raves during the week of feb 25 through march
> 5th in Michigan.


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bad?!?  -ha!  we're worse!!!  we kick the shit out of other pussy
mailing-lists!  afterall, we've got steviet...the ultimate
scene-creator, dance-master and super frequent nookie-receiver.

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>and this is what will always ensure our greatness.

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, jes wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
> > Oh hell since everyone else is.
> you couldn't resist, couldja jon?

I was hoping for an:

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yewesh!  mess wida midwes, an yoo die like tha rest!!!

we need gang signs

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> 
> > Oh hell since everyone else is.
> 
> you couldn't resist, couldja jon?

No, I sure couldn't
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> atomly your gay

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 20:59:54 2000
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In a message dated 2/17/00 3:56:16 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
gsparker@parkerresearch.com writes:

> we need gang signs

3 fingers up with both hands...
right hand pointing down
left hand pointing up

I\/I \/\/

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gregori wrote:

> yewesh!  mess wida midwes, an yoo die like tha rest!!!
>
> we need gang signs

I've got it: two westside "Ws": one rightside-up, one upside down.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 21:02:38 2000
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no no no
middle and ring finger on both hands crossed, 
thumb down
right hand down
left hand up

--- AzureRecs@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 2/17/00 3:56:16 PM US Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> gsparker@parkerresearch.com writes:
> 
> > we need gang signs
> 
> 3 fingers up with both hands...
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AzureRecs@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/17/00 3:56:16 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> gsparker@parkerresearch.com writes:
>
> > we need gang signs
>
> 3 fingers up with both hands...
> right hand pointing down
> left hand pointing up
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> I\/I \/\/
>
> midwesh WEPWEZENTZ!!!

goddammit!!  I can't believe someone beat me to the punch with almost
the exact same post.
Fuck y'all, I'm going home!


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>  no no no
>  middle and ring finger on both hands crossed, 
>  thumb down
>  right hand down
>  left hand up

shhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeet mah bayud

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    YOU ARE



but i love my konfussssed crackbabies

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 21:07:44 2000
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In a message dated 2/17/00 4:05:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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> >  no no no
>  >  middle and ring finger on both hands crossed, 
>  >  thumb down
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>  

wait hold up... my dexterity is all kinds of fucked up...  do i HAVE to cross 
the middle and ring finger?

as soon as i do that my nose itches and i get athlete's foot and it becomes a 
real pain in the ass

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Peace.  Mw-raves is life.  The rest is just details.  Peace.

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In a message dated 17/02/00 4:09:56 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
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<< Peace.  Mw-raves is life.  The rest is just details.  Peace. >>


you ARE kidding ..  right?

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--TekkgirIie@aol.com wrote--
[>you ARE kidding ..  right?

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whats a rave?

;)

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do i HAVE to cross 
> the middle and ring finger?

yes
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What list?

> as you can see...
> when the title of BULLSHITIEST mailing list is threatened. MW-RAVES rises to 
> the occasion.
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me too

On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

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macs are EVIL........ unless you're doing graphics

--- Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
> It's time for a new computer, and I'm thinking about
> an Imac laptop.
> Do any of you have an Imac?  Would any of you really
> recommend or not 
> recommend them?
> Thank you kindly,
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 21:37:43 2000
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Article I

You have the right to an opinion.  You have the right to ANY opinion you
deem worthy of voicing.  You also have  the right to have that opinion
stuffed down your throat in the most unceremonious manner we can find -
usually in ALL CAPS WITH LOTS OF EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!

Article II

You have the right to post 'DJ Keoki Rulez!'  But if Doris brings the
smack-down, that's your big problem.


Article III

You have the right to TypE iN aLtErnATiNg CaPs... But don't come crying
to us if you start recieving highly combustible pieces of mail


Article IV

You have the right to listen to pussy trance.  You also have the right
to hump Misha... Neither course of action comes recommended.


Article V

You have the right to have your intelligence, sexuality, sanity,
'aveyness, personal hygiene, ancestry and genealogy, self-worth, taste
in music, and penis size called into question at every juncture -
especially if your name is StevieT.


Article VI

You have the right to madness... in any direction.... at any hour


Article VII

You have the right to a nick.  It should be cryptic.  An 'inside' joke.
However, if it's something like RavinGrrrrl or
CareBareSparkleVicksCandyAss we reserve the right to filter 'dat ass.


Article VIII

You have the right to a doman.  Of course, if it happens to be aol.com,
we probably won't take you seriously.


Article IX

You have the right to get as non-rave related as you like... with no
pretense of adding [NRR] to the subject line.


Article X

You have the right to drive 6 hours to see a half-man, half-god of
techno.  But that's no guarantee that he'll actually make music at any
point in the night.


and finally, Article XI

your mom...

had to be said;)



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ok


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  Laine <junglejunkey@yahoo.com> said:

>macs are EVIL........ unless you're doing graphics

Yeah, man.. you are SO RIGHT!!  GODDAMN, and to think that I was 
going to go through life continuing to use this TWO FACED piece of 
hardware, not knowing that by NOT doing graphics on it, I was somehow 
letting some evil power or force into it.  My god, what kind of 
Jeckle and Hyde machine do I have?  One minute nice, the other NOT? 
Just from using or not using GRAPHICS SOFTWARE?  SWEET JESUS, MAN.. 
WHAT IF THIS SORT OF THING IS SPREADING?  WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE GOING 
TO DO?  I MEAN, MY T.V. COULD BE LIKE THIS AS WELL, DEPENDING ON IF I 
WATCH DISCOVERY CHANNEL, OR MTV, OR FOX, OR WHATEVER!!!  FUCK!!! 
WHAT ABOUT MY GODDAMN TOASTER?!!?  I MEAN, I LIKE WHEAT BREAD 
SOMETIMES, AND OTHER TIMES,  BAGELS.. COULD IT BE SOME SORT OF 
MONSTER AS WELL?  FUCK!!!!  WE HAVE TO TELL THE WORLD OF THIS!!  WE 
HAVE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!

WORLD!!  THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!  MACS ARE EVIL UNLESS YOU'RE DOING 
GRAPHICS!!!

AIEEEEEEE!!!!  HELP US ALL, OH SWEET JESUS!!! DELIVER US FROM THIS 
JECKLE AND HYDE BEAST, THIS LEVIATHAN, THIS LUCIFER OF DUPLICITY!!! 
JESUS CHRIST, HELP US!!  HELP US O LORD!!!!!!!!  PLEASE SHOWER US 
WITH WINTEL MACHINES OR LINUX BOXEN TO HELP DESTROY THIS MEANACE!! 
ANYTHING TO STOP IT!!!  ANYTHING!!
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anyone not have any kind of important plans for march 29-april 5?

wanna come with me to london? (yeah, as in england)

you gotta buy your own stuff...i just don't feel like travelling completely
alone...

if you think you could swing it, drop me a line, i'll give you the details

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Griggles wrote:
> You have the right to post 'DJ Keoki Rulez!'  But if Doris brings the
> smack-down, that's your big problem.

I thought she stopped bringing the smack-down, and instead will from now
on only be "checking people into smack-down hotel."

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 23:09:33 2000
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OK.  No giving me crap on how gay my site is.  I only put it up so I could
scan these pics ;p  Also, I'm very pissed that I took two rolls of film
only to have 5 pics really turn out...goddamn fog machines! Two of the ones
on my page aren't even from the party...they're from the net meet...

soooo... here ya go:

home.earthlink.net/~fergcore

click on "nplh" at the bottom of the page.

I wish more had turned out.  poopy.

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In a message dated 2/17/00 11:10:30 PM !!!First Boot!!!, atomly@atomly.com 
writes:

> > You have the right to post 'DJ Keoki Rulez!'  But if Doris brings the
>  > smack-down, that's your big problem.
>  
>  I thought she stopped bringing the smack-down, and instead will from now
>  on only be "checking people into smack-down hotel."

HeeEEEEeeeey!!!!

What's wrong with Keoki???

-Chocolate

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Let's just say he goes through more gasoline in a week than my car. :)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 17 23:34:26 2000
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like.... .what's gay? i dont get this list...... *twirles hair* 



<< ok
 
 
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>like.... .what's gay? i dont get this list...... *twirles hair* 


Incredibly happy.  Atomly is our resident happy glitter queen ;p

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THE SELEKTA :  update february.2000
www.selekta.com


The Selekta brings you another batch of the best
electronic music content that this scene has to offer.
> Interviews with Mark Farina, Bryan Zents (Barada), Frankie Bones, and Ann=
e Savage to over 120 FUll sets in RealAudio, The Selekta Crew promises that=
 you will find something that will make you smile, think, and move your bod=
y to the beat.

for information, please send email to info@selekta.com

THE LATEST UPDATES

- Interview with Mark Reeder
- Interview with Mark Farina
- Interview with Huda-Hudia
- Interview with Jask
- Video Interviews: Frankie Bones, Anne Savage, and more!
- Review: Cyberfest '99
- Interview with Bryan Zents (Barada)
- Sunburn Recordings Music Reviews
- Interview with Lonnie Fisher from Ultraworld





***The Selekta Interview with Germany's Mark Reeder
--- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/markreeder.asp

Mark Reeder, the man behind Mastermind for Success talks to The Selekta abo=
ut his vision as MFS finds itself in existance for a full 10 years. While t=
he office, on the bottom floor of a nondescript Berlin building, is a far c=
ry from the Emerald City, there is nonetheless a man behind the curtain. Th=
at man is Mark Reeder, the visionary founder of MFS Records in Berlin. Woul=
d you believe that Mark even shares his kitchen recipe for "Reeder's Digest=
ives?" Fun! 

-----------------------------------------------------
***DJ Dennis Interviews the one and only Mark Farina

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/markfarina.asp

..."For our special opening night, our guest would be the man himself, Mark=
 Farina. That night I got to prep the packed house in MY flavor of House an=
d hand over the frenzied, 600 club heads to the man who would be educating =
each and every person with his building music. Throughout his slammin=92 2 =
=BD hour set, Mark bumped the funkiest and most colorful array of vocals wi=
th blissful peak rhythms..." < more > 

-----------------------------------------------------
***Huda Hudia - Talk to one of the premiere influences behind Florida Break=
s

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/hudahudia.asp

The Selekta's Dave Meeker meets up with Florida's totally original Huda Hud=
ia to talk about his label, Kaleidoscope Records, and what the future has i=
n store for this master of Electronica. From Trance to Breaks, Huda Hudia h=
as made his lasting impression on all that have heard his recordings and se=
en him perform live. Get a closer look at the man behind the name. 


-----------------------------------------------------
***Florida's Jask - The Selekta Interview

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/jask.asp

The Selekta Crew is keeping busy! Take a moment to get behind the decks wit=
h Florida's Jask. This much talked about DJ sheds some light on his view of=
 the scene and the music that makes it all possible. Includes a full set in=
 RealAudio and recommended tracks! 


-----------------------------------------------------
***Video Interviews: 

http://www.selekta.com/multimedia/video.asp

The Selekta flips the camera on and talks about "selling out" and the origi=
ns of the term "PLUR" with Frankie Bones. We get up close and personal with=
 the dynamic Anne Savage. And Nigel Mihell lets us in on the man behind the=
 music.  


-----------------------------------------------------
***Cyberfest '99 - Ringing in the New Year with The Selekta's Tak Herrera

-- http://www.selekta.com/reviews/party/cyberfest.asp

It started as our "Millenium" trip. 5 friends in a ford minivan, over 20 ta=
pes, a cooler full of food, a 606 Roland Drum machine, headphones and a 15 =
hour drive infront of us." 


-----------------------------------------------------
***The Selekta Interview with Bryan Zents

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/barada.asp

You may recall him as the infamous Barada. The Selekta's Heather Muse sites=
 down with this influential music maker to get the inside track on what he =
is doing now.  


-----------------------------------------------------
***Sunburn Recordings Music Reviews

-- http://www.selekta.com/reviews/recording/

DJ Mikkel reviews music from 5 different artists off of a label that he can=
 only describe as "THE BOMB." San Francisco=92s Sunburn Recordings is one o=
f the most eclectic electronic music labels in the business. Includes mater=
ial from The Baroness, Universal Machine, and Rebel Crew. Also, Check out w=
ww.sunburn.org and www.groovetech.com 


-----------------------------------------------------

***The Selekta Interviews Lonnie Fisher from Ultraworld

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/lonniefisher.asp

Perhaps one of the most recognizable Dance Event organizers on the East Coa=
st, Lonnie Fisher talks to The Selekta about his history and future with Ul=
traworld. He has been the organizer of some of the most infamous and enjoya=
ble events to ever go down on the East coast. Get inside with Lonnie.  


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THE SELEKTA :  update february.2000
www.selekta.com


The Selekta brings you another batch of the best
electronic music content that this scene has to offer.
> Interviews with Mark Farina, Bryan Zents (Barada), Frankie Bones, and Ann=
e Savage to over 120 FUll sets in RealAudio, The Selekta Crew promises that=
 you will find something that will make you smile, think, and move your bod=
y to the beat.

for information, please send email to info@selekta.com

THE LATEST UPDATES

- Interview with Mark Reeder
- Interview with Mark Farina
- Interview with Huda-Hudia
- Interview with Jask
- Video Interviews: Frankie Bones, Anne Savage, and more!
- Review: Cyberfest '99
- Interview with Bryan Zents (Barada)
- Sunburn Recordings Music Reviews
- Interview with Lonnie Fisher from Ultraworld





***The Selekta Interview with Germany's Mark Reeder
--- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/markreeder.asp

Mark Reeder, the man behind Mastermind for Success talks to The Selekta abo=
ut his vision as MFS finds itself in existance for a full 10 years. While t=
he office, on the bottom floor of a nondescript Berlin building, is a far c=
ry from the Emerald City, there is nonetheless a man behind the curtain. Th=
at man is Mark Reeder, the visionary founder of MFS Records in Berlin. Woul=
d you believe that Mark even shares his kitchen recipe for "Reeder's Digest=
ives?" Fun! 

-----------------------------------------------------
***DJ Dennis Interviews the one and only Mark Farina

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/markfarina.asp

..."For our special opening night, our guest would be the man himself, Mark=
 Farina. That night I got to prep the packed house in MY flavor of House an=
d hand over the frenzied, 600 club heads to the man who would be educating =
each and every person with his building music. Throughout his slammin=92 2 =
=BD hour set, Mark bumped the funkiest and most colorful array of vocals wi=
th blissful peak rhythms..." < more > 

-----------------------------------------------------
***Huda Hudia - Talk to one of the premiere influences behind Florida Break=
s

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/hudahudia.asp

The Selekta's Dave Meeker meets up with Florida's totally original Huda Hud=
ia to talk about his label, Kaleidoscope Records, and what the future has i=
n store for this master of Electronica. From Trance to Breaks, Huda Hudia h=
as made his lasting impression on all that have heard his recordings and se=
en him perform live. Get a closer look at the man behind the name. 


-----------------------------------------------------
***Florida's Jask - The Selekta Interview

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/jask.asp

The Selekta Crew is keeping busy! Take a moment to get behind the decks wit=
h Florida's Jask. This much talked about DJ sheds some light on his view of=
 the scene and the music that makes it all possible. Includes a full set in=
 RealAudio and recommended tracks! 


-----------------------------------------------------
***Video Interviews: 

http://www.selekta.com/multimedia/video.asp

The Selekta flips the camera on and talks about "selling out" and the origi=
ns of the term "PLUR" with Frankie Bones. We get up close and personal with=
 the dynamic Anne Savage. And Nigel Mihell lets us in on the man behind the=
 music.  


-----------------------------------------------------
***Cyberfest '99 - Ringing in the New Year with The Selekta's Tak Herrera

-- http://www.selekta.com/reviews/party/cyberfest.asp

It started as our "Millenium" trip. 5 friends in a ford minivan, over 20 ta=
pes, a cooler full of food, a 606 Roland Drum machine, headphones and a 15 =
hour drive infront of us." 


-----------------------------------------------------
***The Selekta Interview with Bryan Zents

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/barada.asp

You may recall him as the infamous Barada. The Selekta's Heather Muse sites=
 down with this influential music maker to get the inside track on what he =
is doing now.  


-----------------------------------------------------
***Sunburn Recordings Music Reviews

-- http://www.selekta.com/reviews/recording/

DJ Mikkel reviews music from 5 different artists off of a label that he can=
 only describe as "THE BOMB." San Francisco=92s Sunburn Recordings is one o=
f the most eclectic electronic music labels in the business. Includes mater=
ial from The Baroness, Universal Machine, and Rebel Crew. Also, Check out w=
ww.sunburn.org and www.groovetech.com 


-----------------------------------------------------

***The Selekta Interviews Lonnie Fisher from Ultraworld

-- http://www.selekta.com/interviews/lonniefisher.asp

Perhaps one of the most recognizable Dance Event organizers on the East Coa=
st, Lonnie Fisher talks to The Selekta about his history and future with Ul=
traworld. He has been the organizer of some of the most infamous and enjoya=
ble events to ever go down on the East coast. Get inside with Lonnie.  


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 00:03:44 2000
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Fergus wrote:
> Incredibly happy.  Atomly is our resident happy glitter queen ;p

:: curtsies ::

Wanna seabreeze?

*PLuR!*

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 00:13:39 2000
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:38:12 -0500
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To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, kc-raves@egroups.com, stl-raves@egroups.com
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I attempted to attach the URL where our flyer can be viewed...when I
checked my message in the my 'SENT' file, it actually attached the
images of the flyer (cringing).

I'd be cursing if someone sent it to me. 

Won't ever try that again. Promise.

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I guess I can anounce this now, so everyone gets 
stoked:

Courts Of Chaos
(Jester's B-day Celebration)

a night of pure adrenaline, basking in the harder, 
darker, faster side of our music.

Hard Techno, Dark Jungle, Hardcore, and HappyHardcore..


line up

Adam Beyer
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djmoose
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more headliners and fav. locals to be announced.

Pittsburgh, PA

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 00:34:33 2000
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pass the vicks over here! you dance pretty... liquid some more!


PLUR forever.

*sarahhhhhhh*

<< > Incredibly happy.  Atomly is our resident happy glitter queen ;p
 
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1.  I'm prolly gonna need some help promoting wise, 
who wants me to send them flyers for Courts of Chaos?
Give me your infoline number as well, if you want it 
to appear on the flyer for promo support.

2.  I just got a new batch of dj Avatar tapes for 
promoters interested.  Also djmoose tapes are for sale 
on the iv website (please excuse the condition of it, 
john is mad lazy!) http://fly.to/infinitevelocity

thanks
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what list??


> like.... .what's gay? i dont get this list...... 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 00:51:29 2000
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Tiffanie Hamilton wrote:

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+> like.... .what's gay? i dont get this list...... 

oh, come on now.....  we've been over this a few times.

as for me,  i'm still trying to figure out atomly's dj keoki/gasoline
joke.

peace,
chad
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i'm not as drunk as you think i am.
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> Let's just say he goes through more gasoline in a week than my car. :)
	
	And that ain't no small amount of gasoline in adam's '68 chevy... 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 01:28:04 2000
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somebody help me. the midwest raves admin is beating the ever living fuck 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 02:42:51 2000
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Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to 
introduce myself. My name is June. I live in Wi. My first rave was in 
Illinois a few years ago. My music of choice is hard tekno. Some events that 
I'll never forget are Teenage Wasteland in Milwaukee and Rave 'm' And Baily. 
Well, that's all for now. I'm looking forward to hearing from all of you.

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Watch out for the new movie I'm directing. "The Firming of Adam Lee"

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>Watch out for the new movie I'm directing. "The Firming of Adam Lee"


I think I'll stick with "The Bare Wench Project".

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"june l." <teknosista@hotmail.com> said:

>Hi everyone.

Hi June, I'm drunk.  Welcome to the list.. welcome to the circus.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 02:51:07 2000
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I am directing a movie called:

"Ketamine,a problem or a solution"

Siskel and Ebert have it on dubplate..



>From: mattdemon <demmon@students.uiuc.edu>
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In a message dated 2/17/0 8:45:42 PM, gsparker wrote:

<<bad?!?  -ha!  we're worse!!!  we kick the shit out of other pussy
mailing-lists!  afterall, we've got steviet...the ultimate
scene-creator, dance-master and super frequent nookie-receiver.

I quiver with pride>>

um, what does this have to do with the sunscreen that
michael uses to create the farmer's tan "hamsters rule!" 
tattoo on his beer belly?


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WhAt iN gOd's NaMe rU tAlkiNg aBoUT?

atomly wrote:

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> 
> um, what does this have to do with the sunscreen that
> michael uses to create the farmer's tan "hamsters rule!" 
> tattoo on his beer belly?
> 

hi.

can you try to be funny next time?




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> > You have the right to post 'DJ Keoki Rulez!'  But if Doris brings the
> > smack-down, that's your big problem.
> 
> I thought she stopped bringing the smack-down, and instead will from now
> on only be "checking people into smack-down hotel."
> 

i'm sorry, but due to an overabundance of dumbfucks in my immediate
vicinity, the smackdown motel is currently overbooked.  we have been 
forced to resort to "bringing the smack-down" until idiocy in my  
surrounding subsides and more rooms become available.  thank you.  we also
ask stevie t to please vacate the luxury suite, as occupancy is only 
allowed for several days at a time, at which point it will be necessary to
find housing elsewhere.  thanks again.
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innit.

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In a message dated 2/18/0 3:10:02 AM, doris wrote:

<<hi.

can you try to be funny next time?>>

sorry.

i can never be as funny as when you were rollin so hard
you tripped over your own shadow & landed smack on 
yur forehead & had this strange bruise between your 
eyes...but you tried covering it up the next day by saying
the strange purple spot between your eyes was your
declaration into hinduism...but the truly funny part was
when all the indian ravahs still made fun of you because
they knew you were full of shit, because they were all
there when you tripped on your own shadow & fell on
yur face!!



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please try harder next time.



> <<hi.
> 
> can you try to be funny next time?>>
> 
> sorry.
> 
> i can never be as funny as when you were rollin so hard
> you tripped over your own shadow & landed smack on 
> yur forehead & had this strange bruise between your 
> eyes...but you tried covering it up the next day by saying
> the strange purple spot between your eyes was your
> declaration into hinduism...but the truly funny part was
> when all the indian ravahs still made fun of you because
> they knew you were full of shit, because they were all
> there when you tripped on your own shadow & fell on
> yur face!!
> 


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haha brian kidwell might get to CHAPERONE his 8th grade sister's class trip 
to london...UNF

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At 06:33 PM 2/17/00 -0500, you wrote:
>like.... .what's gay? i dont get this list...... *twirles hair*

what list?

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In a message dated 2/17/0 9:51:39 PM, pixie wrote:

<<wanna come with me to london? (yeah, as in england)


you gotta buy your own stuff...i just don't feel like travelling completely

alone...


if you think you could swing it, drop me a line, i'll give you the details


pixie>>

um, is that where they have that really big clock
& call it ben?

oh yah, no matter what you do...don't go on the bridge!
...i hear it's falling down!!

i'll go if the beatles are playing!!

i want to party with austin powers & the spice girls
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>oh yah, no matter what you do...don't go on the bridge!
>...i hear it's falling down!!


The London Bridge isn't in London you ass...it's in Lake Havasu, Arizona.

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>
>i'm not as drunk as you think i am.

CHAD it goes "i'm not as think as you drunk i am" !!!  geez

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In a message dated 2/18/0 12:35:38 AM, glowstickchica wrote:

<<pass the vicks over here! you dance pretty... liquid some more!


PLUR forever.

*sarahhhhhhh*>>

i think a candy ravah girlee asked jon gotti if she
could see his liquid...so he peed on her.



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>oh, come on now.....  we've been over this a few times.
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>as for me,  i'm still trying to figure out atomly's dj keoki/gasoline
>joke.
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>chad
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>i'm not as drunk as you think i am.
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could somebody PLEASE tell me how to
get off this fucking list?????

i'm really sick of my mailbox filling up with
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>could somebody PLEASE tell me how to
>get off this fucking list?????


Well...you have to fuck every list member to get off the fucking list.

duh.


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To delete StevieT's posts.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 04:38:38 2000
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In a message dated 2/18/0 2:44:07 AM, you wrote:

<<Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to 
introduce myself. My name is June. I live in Wi. My first rave was in 
Illinois a few years ago. My music of choice is hard tekno. Some events that 
I'll never forget are Teenage Wasteland in Milwaukee and Rave 'm' And Baily. 
Well, that's all for now. I'm looking forward to hearing from all of you.

Peace-
June>>

hi june.

welcome to the list.

wisconsin smells like cheese.

i'm sorry your first party was in illinois, that must've sucked!

you are a newbie, so show us your boobies!!!



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but I filter him automatically...

so i have no purpose?

darn
apam


>From: Fergus <fergcore@earthlink.net>
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>but I filter him automatically...
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>so i have no purpose?


well...you're subbed to mw...so I guess you have a little purpose ;p


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>
>could somebody PLEASE tell me how to
>get off this fucking list?????

send mail to <dpayer@umich.edu>
in the subject put "PLUR"
in the body of the message put "UNSCRIBE"

for best results, CC: StevieT069@aol.com
if you aren't unsubbed in 5 minutes, repeat the process every 30 seconds 
for a week.


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In a message dated 2/18/0 4:29:52 AM, fergity wrote:

<<The London Bridge isn't in London you ass...it's in Lake Havasu, Arizona.>>

no, no, i think you're having flashbacks from when 
you had that bad trip & thought about jumping off
that bridge because some kid beamed you in the
head with that can of arizona iced tea, because you
were screaming about the aliens coming to steal
all the earth's hamsters cuz for some reason the
first message they decrypted was the message on
the beer belly of the first humanoid they abducted
to hypnotize with their plans to take over the world
thru really bad cheesy techno...


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what in the hell are you doing on ths list?
fucking Yunzer....


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jester Distortion <insubordinate@zworg.com>
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 7:38 PM
Subject: [mw] promo support/ and iv tapes


>1.  I'm prolly gonna need some help promoting wise, 
>who wants me to send them flyers for Courts of Chaos?
>Give me your infoline number as well, if you want it 
>to appear on the flyer for promo support.
>
>2.  I just got a new batch of dj Avatar tapes for 
>promoters interested.  Also djmoose tapes are for sale 
>on the iv website (please excuse the condition of it, 
>john is mad lazy!) http://fly.to/infinitevelocity
>
>thanks
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><<The London Bridge isn't in London you ass...it's in Lake Havasu, Arizona.>>
>
>no, no, i think you're having flashbacks from when 
>you had that bad trip & thought about jumping off
>that bridge because some kid beamed you in the
>head with that can of arizona iced tea, because you
>were screaming about the aliens coming to steal
>all the earth's hamsters cuz for some reason the
>first message they decrypted was the message on
>the beer belly of the first humanoid they abducted
>to hypnotize with their plans to take over the world
>thru really bad cheesy techno...


I was dead serious Stevie.  The London Bridge is in Lake Havasu City,
Arizona.  I suggest you know what you are talking about before you type
such lame shit to me.

fergus


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In a message dated 2/18/0 4:51:08 AM, ameddle wrote:

<<but I filter him automatically...

so i have no purpose?

darn
apam>>

nope, you lost your purpose after the aliens asked you
to take them to your leader & in your drunken stupor,
you took em to a cracked out michael knight pulling
strange fury creatures outta his behind

and thanx to you nothing has been the same ever since!


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>
>well...you're subbed to mw...so I guess you have a little purpose ;p


"what's happening to my special purpose???!?!?!?!?!?"


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mmmichael, it's on, your bitchass is going down.


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> << > >> Gentleman's Glossary
>>>> 
>>>> Anal Boot [n]
>>>> An anal boot is when you take a pitcher of beer, everyone spits
>>>> in it, someone stirs it with their cock and then the mixture is
>>>> poured through the crack of a man's ass into the waiting mouth of the
>>>> loser of a bet or drinking game.
>>>> 
>>>> Australian Death Grip[n]
>>>> The act of grabbing a woman by the haunches/crotch and staring
>>>> deeply into her eyes until you're slapped or kissed. A recommended
>>>> tactic for very crowded bars. Another great opportunity for wagering
>>>> among friends.
>>>> 
>>>> Beef Curtain [n]
>>>> The shanked out remains of the labia after being stretched like
>>>> Play-doh from an hour or so of jimmy-jam (aka Beef Drapes, Meat Tarp,
>>>> Piss Flappers, Quim Nuts, Vertical Bacon Sandwich).
>>>> 
>>>> Blocking the Box [n]
>>>> When you and your pal are double-teaming a chick - he's got her
>>>> from behind, you've got her mouth. Selfishly, he drops his load
>>>> in her, thus preventing you from using that input later (aka Access
>>>> Denied Error, Road Closed Due to Bad Conditions).
>>>> 
>>>> Chocolate Cha-Cha [n]
>>>> Anal Sex. Used in a sentence: "John and George danced the chocolate
>>> cha-cha
>>>> all night." (aka Driving the Hershey Highway, Riding the DirtTrail,
>>>> Utilizing the Third Input, Poking the Brown Eye)
>>>> 
>>>> Consolation Prize [n]
>>>> When you take a girl home from the bar, thinking you're going to
>>>> get laid, and from all of the drinks you've been feeding her all night
>>>> long, she passes out on the bed right before you get your pants off. To
>>> get
>>>> revenge, you jerk off and spray your load all over her back. Even
>> though
>>>> you lost and didn't get laid, the satisfaction you got is almost as
>> good,
>>>> hence the term consolation prize.
>>>> 
>>>> Cum Dumpster [n]
>>>> Refers to a girl who has been around the block quite a few times, hence
>>> she
>>>> is full of cum.
>>>> 
>>>> Fumilingus [v, n]
>>>> When a man (or woman) performs cunnilingus on a woman and she farts
>>> directly
>>>> in his face.
>>>> 
>>>> Game of Smiles [n]
>>>> This games involves men sitting around a circular table and a
>>>> woman giving random blowjobs underneath the table. Anyone who "smiles"
>> has
>>>> to buy a round of beer for the rest.
>>>> 
>>>> Going to the Bullpen [v]
>>>> The act of fingering a the anus prior to having anal sex. It
>>>> kind of "paves the way".
>>>> 
>>>> Goobin [n]
>>>> One of the many wives had by an old-style Mormon who is not the
>>>> main wife. The setup usually involves having your one
>>>> "main" wife and the rest of your other wives who are strictly
>>>> used for procreation. Hence "Goobin" - a bin for his goo. Used in a
>>>> sentence: "Mary's one of John's goobins".
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Henson [v]
>>>> When you fist someone and physically lift them off the ground.
>>>> (aka The Muppett, Ass Puppet, Meat Puppet)
>>>> 
>>>> Kennebunkport Surprise [n]
>>>> The act of covertly filling your cheeks with chunky-style New
>>>> England Chowder, and screaming in disgust as you hurl it between
>>>> your partners legs while chewing box.
>>>> 
>>>> Leave-in Conditioner [n]
>>>> Dollops of semen strategically left in a woman's hairdo at a
>>>> public gathering following fellatio. A good lesson for those who
>>>> refuse swallow the evidence
>>>> 
>>>> Matching Drapes [n]
>>>> Reference to whether or not a woman's pubic hair color matches
>>>> the hair on her head. Used in a sentence: "Wow what a
>>>> hot looking redhead, but I wonder do the curtains match the
>>>> drapes?".
>>>> 
>>>> Mung [n, v]
>>>> Two people dig up the corpse of the recently deceased. One
>>>> undresses the mungee and places his mouth over the labia. The other
>>>> backs up and does a running jump onto the corpses chest. The second
>>>> person has to eat everything that enters his mouth. Insult, seen
>>>> here in context: "I'm going to mung your grandmother!"
>>>> 
>>>> Paying the Rent [n]
>>>> A position in which the woman is folded in half, knees above shoulders,
>>>> while the man holds the back of her calves and bangs her
>>>> ferociously.
>>>> 
>>>> Pencil Sharpener [n]
>>>> A chick who gives a rough and toothy blowjob that scrapes your willy up
>>>> something awful.
>>>> 
>>>> Reading the Defense [n]
>>>> The concept of a guy making a split second decision when in a
>>>> situation to score with some chick when out without his
>> girlfriend/wife.
>>>> "Reading the Defense" refers to making all of the
>>>> proper "game time adjustments" as to not get caught cheating later on a
>>> some
>>>> point. Having Beer Goggles on makes it very hard to Read the Defense.
>>>> 
>>>> Rusty Trombone [n]
>>>> The process by which one person is tossing a guy's salad, and
>>>> then reaches around and gives them a hand job.
>>>> 
>>>> San Diego Surprise [n]
>>>> The act of bringing a girl home and while fucking her, having a
>>>> friend in waiting enter the room naked in hopes of a consensual
>>>> threesome. Named by Navy guys stationed in San Diego. Rumored to work
>>> about
>>>> one third of the time.
>>>> 
>>>> The Southern Trespass[n, v]
>>>> The Southern Trespass most frequently occurs when an over
>>>> zealous (drunk) man is involved in intercourse with his lady
>>>> friend. Through lack of concentration, lack of coordination, or
>>>> simply because he wants to do it, the man quickly switches from
>>>> the woman's vagina to the corn hole, without missing a beat.
>>>> If executed properly, this act catches the female by complete
>>>> surprise,stunning her like a cattle prod to the ass in a rain storm. No
>>>> matter how long the man reaps the benefits of his efforts, he can now
>> be
>>>> content with the fact that he has committed the coveted Southern
>> Trespass.
>>>> 
>>>> Throwing A Pickle Down A Hallway [v]
>>>> An expression for when you've just laid the pipe to some chick (usually
>>>> fat)who has a big loose box. Used in a sentence: I may as well have
>> just
>>>> thrown a pickle down the hallway instead of fucking Fat Fanny's loose
>>> gash.
>>>> 
>>>> Twinkler [n, v]
>>>> When you are 69-ing with a honey and she gags on your member and
>>>> you can see her bung-hole pucker up.
>>>> 
>>>> Tupperware Party [n]
>>>> When three guys are triple-teaming a chick...one with his penis
>>>> in her mouth, another in her vagina, and the third in her anus. So
>>>> named because she is sealed air-tight.
>>>> 
>>>> Times Square Shuttle [n]
>>>> You have two girls with you and they are in the 69 position with
>>>> each other.You then alternately fuck each of them while they chow
>>>> each other. You go from the missionary position on one
>>>> and run to the other side and work in doggie style on the other
>>>> one. Repeat as many times as necessary/possible.
>>>> (aka Burning the Candle at Both Ends, Playing Ping Pong, The GungaDin)
>>>> 
>>>> Valsalva [n]
>>>> The act of pinching shut (with thumb and forefinger) a woman's
>>>> nose while receiving fellatio; most effective when employed just
>>>> prior to the release point due to the gag reflex and
>>>> ensuing swallow that the woman is forced to do to continue
>>>> breathing. A great first date ploy, as it sets the stage for what the
>>>> rules of engagement will be going forward.
>>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> From: BirdieGM@aol.com
> Date: February 17, 2000 7:55 PM
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Subject: Sex glossary
> 
> Hmmmm  Thanks WAh for sending lol
> Alright gang, this outdoes anything I have ever sent. If you are easily
> offended, please delete......
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hmmmmmm.....didn't delete yet? LMAO
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> seriously, this is not for the faint of heart.....and I am distancing myself
> from anybody that thinks is gross. Don;t shoot the messenger.
> 
> 
>>>> Gentleman's Glossary
>>>> 
>>>> Anal Boot [n]
>>>> An anal boot is when you take a pitcher of beer, everyone spits
>>>> in it, someone stirs it with their cock and then the mixture is
>>>> poured through the crack of a man's ass into the waiting mouth of the
>>>> loser of a bet or drinking game.
>>>> 
>>>> Australian Death Grip[n]
>>>> The act of grabbing a woman by the haunches/crotch and staring
>>>> deeply into her eyes until you're slapped or kissed. A recommended
>>>> tactic for very crowded bars. Another great opportunity for wagering
>>>> among friends.
>>>> 
>>>> Beef Curtain [n]
>>>> The shanked out remains of the labia after being stretched like
>>>> Play-doh from an hour or so of jimmy-jam (aka Beef Drapes, Meat Tarp,
>>>> Piss Flappers, Quim Nuts, Vertical Bacon Sandwich).
>>>> 
>>>> Blocking the Box [n]
>>>> When you and your pal are double-teaming a chick - he's got her
>>>> from behind, you've got her mouth. Selfishly, he drops his load
>>>> in her, thus preventing you from using that input later (aka Access
>>>> Denied Error, Road Closed Due to Bad Conditions).
>>>> 
>>>> Chocolate Cha-Cha [n]
>>>> Anal Sex. Used in a sentence: "John and George danced the chocolate
>>> cha-cha
>>>> all night." (aka Driving the Hershey Highway, Riding the DirtTrail,
>>>> Utilizing the Third Input, Poking the Brown Eye)
>>>> 
>>>> Consolation Prize [n]
>>>> When you take a girl home from the bar, thinking you're going to
>>>> get laid, and from all of the drinks you've been feeding her all night
>>>> long, she passes out on the bed right before you get your pants off. To
>>> get
>>>> revenge, you jerk off and spray your load all over her back. Even
>> though
>>>> you lost and didn't get laid, the satisfaction you got is almost as
>> good,
>>>> hence the term consolation prize.
>>>> 
>>>> Cum Dumpster [n]
>>>> Refers to a girl who has been around the block quite a few times, hence
>>> she
>>>> is full of cum.
>>>> 
>>>> Fumilingus [v, n]
>>>> When a man (or woman) performs cunnilingus on a woman and she farts
>>> directly
>>>> in his face.
>>>> 
>>>> Game of Smiles [n]
>>>> This games involves men sitting around a circular table and a
>>>> woman giving random blowjobs underneath the table. Anyone who "smiles"
>> has
>>>> to buy a round of beer for the rest.
>>>> 
>>>> Going to the Bullpen [v]
>>>> The act of fingering a the anus prior to having anal sex. It
>>>> kind of "paves the way".
>>>> 
>>>> Goobin [n]
>>>> One of the many wives had by an old-style Mormon who is not the
>>>> main wife. The setup usually involves having your one
>>>> "main" wife and the rest of your other wives who are strictly
>>>> used for procreation. Hence "Goobin" - a bin for his goo. Used in a
>>>> sentence: "Mary's one of John's goobins".
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Henson [v]
>>>> When you fist someone and physically lift them off the ground.
>>>> (aka The Muppett, Ass Puppet, Meat Puppet)
>>>> 
>>>> Kennebunkport Surprise [n]
>>>> The act of covertly filling your cheeks with chunky-style New
>>>> England Chowder, and screaming in disgust as you hurl it between
>>>> your partners legs while chewing box.
>>>> 
>>>> Leave-in Conditioner [n]
>>>> Dollops of semen strategically left in a woman's hairdo at a
>>>> public gathering following fellatio. A good lesson for those who
>>>> refuse swallow the evidence
>>>> 
>>>> Matching Drapes [n]
>>>> Reference to whether or not a woman's pubic hair color matches
>>>> the hair on her head. Used in a sentence: "Wow what a
>>>> hot looking redhead, but I wonder do the curtains match the
>>>> drapes?".
>>>> 
>>>> Mung [n, v]
>>>> Two people dig up the corpse of the recently deceased. One
>>>> undresses the mungee and places his mouth over the labia. The other
>>>> backs up and does a running jump onto the corpses chest. The second
>>>> person has to eat everything that enters his mouth. Insult, seen
>>>> here in context: "I'm going to mung your grandmother!"
>>>> 
>>>> Paying the Rent [n]
>>>> A position in which the woman is folded in half, knees above shoulders,
>>>> while the man holds the back of her calves and bangs her
>>>> ferociously.
>>>> 
>>>> Pencil Sharpener [n]
>>>> A chick who gives a rough and toothy blowjob that scrapes your willy up
>>>> something awful.
>>>> 
>>>> Reading the Defense [n]
>>>> The concept of a guy making a split second decision when in a
>>>> situation to score with some chick when out without his
>> girlfriend/wife.
>>>> "Reading the Defense" refers to making all of the
>>>> proper "game time adjustments" as to not get caught cheating later on a
>>> some
>>>> point. Having Beer Goggles on makes it very hard to Read the Defense.
>>>> 
>>>> Rusty Trombone [n]
>>>> The process by which one person is tossing a guy's salad, and
>>>> then reaches around and gives them a hand job.
>>>> 
>>>> San Diego Surprise [n]
>>>> The act of bringing a girl home and while fucking her, having a
>>>> friend in waiting enter the room naked in hopes of a consensual
>>>> threesome. Named by Navy guys stationed in San Diego. Rumored to work
>>> about
>>>> one third of the time.
>>>> 
>>>> The Southern Trespass[n, v]
>>>> The Southern Trespass most frequently occurs when an over
>>>> zealous (drunk) man is involved in intercourse with his lady
>>>> friend. Through lack of concentration, lack of coordination, or
>>>> simply because he wants to do it, the man quickly switches from
>>>> the woman's vagina to the corn hole, without missing a beat.
>>>> If executed properly, this act catches the female by complete
>>>> surprise,stunning her like a cattle prod to the ass in a rain storm. No
>>>> matter how long the man reaps the benefits of his efforts, he can now
>> be
>>>> content with the fact that he has committed the coveted Southern
>> Trespass.
>>>> 
>>>> Throwing A Pickle Down A Hallway [v]
>>>> An expression for when you've just laid the pipe to some chick (usually
>>>> fat)who has a big loose box. Used in a sentence: I may as well have
>> just
>>>> thrown a pickle down the hallway instead of fucking Fat Fanny's loose
>>> gash.
>>>> 
>>>> Twinkler [n, v]
>>>> When you are 69-ing with a honey and she gags on your member and
>>>> you can see her bung-hole pucker up.
>>>> 
>>>> Tupperware Party [n]
>>>> When three guys are triple-teaming a chick...one with his penis
>>>> in her mouth, another in her vagina, and the third in her anus. So
>>>> named because she is sealed air-tight.
>>>> 
>>>> Times Square Shuttle [n]
>>>> You have two girls with you and they are in the 69 position with
>>>> each other.You then alternately fuck each of them while they chow
>>>> each other. You go from the missionary position on one
>>>> and run to the other side and work in doggie style on the other
>>>> one. Repeat as many times as necessary/possible.
>>>> (aka Burning the Candle at Both Ends, Playing Ping Pong, The GungaDin)
>>>> 
>>>> Valsalva [n]
>>>> The act of pinching shut (with thumb and forefinger) a woman's
>>>> nose while receiving fellatio; most effective when employed just
>>>> prior to the release point due to the gag reflex and
>>>> ensuing swallow that the woman is forced to do to continue
>>>> breathing. A great first date ploy, as it sets the stage for what the
>>>> rules of engagement will be going forward.
>>>> 
> 


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At 12:21 AM 2/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>mmmichael, it's on, your bitchass is going down.

anything to keep you happy!!  *waggles tongue suggestively*



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Subject: Re: [mw] FW: NRR Sex glossary
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:57:42 PST
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this shit is great!!! reminiscient of the donkey punch and cleveland 
steamer, but a bit more twisted. yah-oo!

-marauder


>From: Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani <blitz666@uswest.net>
>Reply-To: Shannon 'bLiTz' Magnani <blitz666@uswest.net>
>To: Gary Curtis <partisan@pe.net>
>CC: Gretchen Stasey <gstasey@hotmail.com>, Mike Compo <godfoot@juno.com>,  
>Aaron Johnson <kbjohnson2@juno.com>, Aaron <NothingARN@aol.com>,  Arno 
><arnoarr4@milwpc.com>, Dave Copeland <dcopeland@uswest.net>,  Dan Efex 
><cykowar@hotmail.com>, Joe Carroll <dgroove@juno.com>,  Jebb Filz 
><jebb@athenet.net>, Lyndsey Jones <lynseynicole@hotmail.com>,  The Shit 
>List <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>, Noel Short <leon0023@mindspring.com>
>Subject: [mw] FW: NRR Sex glossary
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:22:33 -0600
>
>
> > << > >> Gentleman's Glossary
> >>>>
> >>>> Anal Boot [n]
> >>>> An anal boot is when you take a pitcher of beer, everyone spits
> >>>> in it, someone stirs it with their cock and then the mixture is
> >>>> poured through the crack of a man's ass into the waiting mouth of the
> >>>> loser of a bet or drinking game.
> >>>>
> >>>> Australian Death Grip[n]
> >>>> The act of grabbing a woman by the haunches/crotch and staring
> >>>> deeply into her eyes until you're slapped or kissed. A recommended
> >>>> tactic for very crowded bars. Another great opportunity for wagering
> >>>> among friends.
> >>>>
> >>>> Beef Curtain [n]
> >>>> The shanked out remains of the labia after being stretched like
> >>>> Play-doh from an hour or so of jimmy-jam (aka Beef Drapes, Meat Tarp,
> >>>> Piss Flappers, Quim Nuts, Vertical Bacon Sandwich).
> >>>>
> >>>> Blocking the Box [n]
> >>>> When you and your pal are double-teaming a chick - he's got her
> >>>> from behind, you've got her mouth. Selfishly, he drops his load
> >>>> in her, thus preventing you from using that input later (aka Access
> >>>> Denied Error, Road Closed Due to Bad Conditions).
> >>>>
> >>>> Chocolate Cha-Cha [n]
> >>>> Anal Sex. Used in a sentence: "John and George danced the chocolate
> >>> cha-cha
> >>>> all night." (aka Driving the Hershey Highway, Riding the DirtTrail,
> >>>> Utilizing the Third Input, Poking the Brown Eye)
> >>>>
> >>>> Consolation Prize [n]
> >>>> When you take a girl home from the bar, thinking you're going to
> >>>> get laid, and from all of the drinks you've been feeding her all 
>night
> >>>> long, she passes out on the bed right before you get your pants off. 
>To
> >>> get
> >>>> revenge, you jerk off and spray your load all over her back. Even
> >> though
> >>>> you lost and didn't get laid, the satisfaction you got is almost as
> >> good,
> >>>> hence the term consolation prize.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cum Dumpster [n]
> >>>> Refers to a girl who has been around the block quite a few times, 
>hence
> >>> she
> >>>> is full of cum.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fumilingus [v, n]
> >>>> When a man (or woman) performs cunnilingus on a woman and she farts
> >>> directly
> >>>> in his face.
> >>>>
> >>>> Game of Smiles [n]
> >>>> This games involves men sitting around a circular table and a
> >>>> woman giving random blowjobs underneath the table. Anyone who 
>"smiles"
> >> has
> >>>> to buy a round of beer for the rest.
> >>>>
> >>>> Going to the Bullpen [v]
> >>>> The act of fingering a the anus prior to having anal sex. It
> >>>> kind of "paves the way".
> >>>>
> >>>> Goobin [n]
> >>>> One of the many wives had by an old-style Mormon who is not the
> >>>> main wife. The setup usually involves having your one
> >>>> "main" wife and the rest of your other wives who are strictly
> >>>> used for procreation. Hence "Goobin" - a bin for his goo. Used in a
> >>>> sentence: "Mary's one of John's goobins".
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Henson [v]
> >>>> When you fist someone and physically lift them off the ground.
> >>>> (aka The Muppett, Ass Puppet, Meat Puppet)
> >>>>
> >>>> Kennebunkport Surprise [n]
> >>>> The act of covertly filling your cheeks with chunky-style New
> >>>> England Chowder, and screaming in disgust as you hurl it between
> >>>> your partners legs while chewing box.
> >>>>
> >>>> Leave-in Conditioner [n]
> >>>> Dollops of semen strategically left in a woman's hairdo at a
> >>>> public gathering following fellatio. A good lesson for those who
> >>>> refuse swallow the evidence
> >>>>
> >>>> Matching Drapes [n]
> >>>> Reference to whether or not a woman's pubic hair color matches
> >>>> the hair on her head. Used in a sentence: "Wow what a
> >>>> hot looking redhead, but I wonder do the curtains match the
> >>>> drapes?".
> >>>>
> >>>> Mung [n, v]
> >>>> Two people dig up the corpse of the recently deceased. One
> >>>> undresses the mungee and places his mouth over the labia. The other
> >>>> backs up and does a running jump onto the corpses chest. The second
> >>>> person has to eat everything that enters his mouth. Insult, seen
> >>>> here in context: "I'm going to mung your grandmother!"
> >>>>
> >>>> Paying the Rent [n]
> >>>> A position in which the woman is folded in half, knees above 
>shoulders,
> >>>> while the man holds the back of her calves and bangs her
> >>>> ferociously.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pencil Sharpener [n]
> >>>> A chick who gives a rough and toothy blowjob that scrapes your willy 
>up
> >>>> something awful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Reading the Defense [n]
> >>>> The concept of a guy making a split second decision when in a
> >>>> situation to score with some chick when out without his
> >> girlfriend/wife.
> >>>> "Reading the Defense" refers to making all of the
> >>>> proper "game time adjustments" as to not get caught cheating later on 
>a
> >>> some
> >>>> point. Having Beer Goggles on makes it very hard to Read the Defense.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rusty Trombone [n]
> >>>> The process by which one person is tossing a guy's salad, and
> >>>> then reaches around and gives them a hand job.
> >>>>
> >>>> San Diego Surprise [n]
> >>>> The act of bringing a girl home and while fucking her, having a
> >>>> friend in waiting enter the room naked in hopes of a consensual
> >>>> threesome. Named by Navy guys stationed in San Diego. Rumored to work
> >>> about
> >>>> one third of the time.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Southern Trespass[n, v]
> >>>> The Southern Trespass most frequently occurs when an over
> >>>> zealous (drunk) man is involved in intercourse with his lady
> >>>> friend. Through lack of concentration, lack of coordination, or
> >>>> simply because he wants to do it, the man quickly switches from
> >>>> the woman's vagina to the corn hole, without missing a beat.
> >>>> If executed properly, this act catches the female by complete
> >>>> surprise,stunning her like a cattle prod to the ass in a rain storm. 
>No
> >>>> matter how long the man reaps the benefits of his efforts, he can now
> >> be
> >>>> content with the fact that he has committed the coveted Southern
> >> Trespass.
> >>>>
> >>>> Throwing A Pickle Down A Hallway [v]
> >>>> An expression for when you've just laid the pipe to some chick 
>(usually
> >>>> fat)who has a big loose box. Used in a sentence: I may as well have
> >> just
> >>>> thrown a pickle down the hallway instead of fucking Fat Fanny's loose
> >>> gash.
> >>>>
> >>>> Twinkler [n, v]
> >>>> When you are 69-ing with a honey and she gags on your member and
> >>>> you can see her bung-hole pucker up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tupperware Party [n]
> >>>> When three guys are triple-teaming a chick...one with his penis
> >>>> in her mouth, another in her vagina, and the third in her anus. So
> >>>> named because she is sealed air-tight.
> >>>>
> >>>> Times Square Shuttle [n]
> >>>> You have two girls with you and they are in the 69 position with
> >>>> each other.You then alternately fuck each of them while they chow
> >>>> each other. You go from the missionary position on one
> >>>> and run to the other side and work in doggie style on the other
> >>>> one. Repeat as many times as necessary/possible.
> >>>> (aka Burning the Candle at Both Ends, Playing Ping Pong, The 
>GungaDin)
> >>>>
> >>>> Valsalva [n]
> >>>> The act of pinching shut (with thumb and forefinger) a woman's
> >>>> nose while receiving fellatio; most effective when employed just
> >>>> prior to the release point due to the gag reflex and
> >>>> ensuing swallow that the woman is forced to do to continue
> >>>> breathing. A great first date ploy, as it sets the stage for what the
> >>>> rules of engagement will be going forward.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> > From: BirdieGM@aol.com
> > Date: February 17, 2000 7:55 PM
> > To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> > Subject: Sex glossary
> >
> > Hmmmm  Thanks WAh for sending lol
> > Alright gang, this outdoes anything I have ever sent. If you are easily
> > offended, please delete......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hmmmmmm.....didn't delete yet? LMAO
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > seriously, this is not for the faint of heart.....and I am distancing 
>myself
> > from anybody that thinks is gross. Don;t shoot the messenger.
> >
> >
> >>>> Gentleman's Glossary
> >>>>
> >>>> Anal Boot [n]
> >>>> An anal boot is when you take a pitcher of beer, everyone spits
> >>>> in it, someone stirs it with their cock and then the mixture is
> >>>> poured through the crack of a man's ass into the waiting mouth of the
> >>>> loser of a bet or drinking game.
> >>>>
> >>>> Australian Death Grip[n]
> >>>> The act of grabbing a woman by the haunches/crotch and staring
> >>>> deeply into her eyes until you're slapped or kissed. A recommended
> >>>> tactic for very crowded bars. Another great opportunity for wagering
> >>>> among friends.
> >>>>
> >>>> Beef Curtain [n]
> >>>> The shanked out remains of the labia after being stretched like
> >>>> Play-doh from an hour or so of jimmy-jam (aka Beef Drapes, Meat Tarp,
> >>>> Piss Flappers, Quim Nuts, Vertical Bacon Sandwich).
> >>>>
> >>>> Blocking the Box [n]
> >>>> When you and your pal are double-teaming a chick - he's got her
> >>>> from behind, you've got her mouth. Selfishly, he drops his load
> >>>> in her, thus preventing you from using that input later (aka Access
> >>>> Denied Error, Road Closed Due to Bad Conditions).
> >>>>
> >>>> Chocolate Cha-Cha [n]
> >>>> Anal Sex. Used in a sentence: "John and George danced the chocolate
> >>> cha-cha
> >>>> all night." (aka Driving the Hershey Highway, Riding the DirtTrail,
> >>>> Utilizing the Third Input, Poking the Brown Eye)
> >>>>
> >>>> Consolation Prize [n]
> >>>> When you take a girl home from the bar, thinking you're going to
> >>>> get laid, and from all of the drinks you've been feeding her all 
>night
> >>>> long, she passes out on the bed right before you get your pants off. 
>To
> >>> get
> >>>> revenge, you jerk off and spray your load all over her back. Even
> >> though
> >>>> you lost and didn't get laid, the satisfaction you got is almost as
> >> good,
> >>>> hence the term consolation prize.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cum Dumpster [n]
> >>>> Refers to a girl who has been around the block quite a few times, 
>hence
> >>> she
> >>>> is full of cum.
> >>>>
> >>>> Fumilingus [v, n]
> >>>> When a man (or woman) performs cunnilingus on a woman and she farts
> >>> directly
> >>>> in his face.
> >>>>
> >>>> Game of Smiles [n]
> >>>> This games involves men sitting around a circular table and a
> >>>> woman giving random blowjobs underneath the table. Anyone who 
>"smiles"
> >> has
> >>>> to buy a round of beer for the rest.
> >>>>
> >>>> Going to the Bullpen [v]
> >>>> The act of fingering a the anus prior to having anal sex. It
> >>>> kind of "paves the way".
> >>>>
> >>>> Goobin [n]
> >>>> One of the many wives had by an old-style Mormon who is not the
> >>>> main wife. The setup usually involves having your one
> >>>> "main" wife and the rest of your other wives who are strictly
> >>>> used for procreation. Hence "Goobin" - a bin for his goo. Used in a
> >>>> sentence: "Mary's one of John's goobins".
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Henson [v]
> >>>> When you fist someone and physically lift them off the ground.
> >>>> (aka The Muppett, Ass Puppet, Meat Puppet)
> >>>>
> >>>> Kennebunkport Surprise [n]
> >>>> The act of covertly filling your cheeks with chunky-style New
> >>>> England Chowder, and screaming in disgust as you hurl it between
> >>>> your partners legs while chewing box.
> >>>>
> >>>> Leave-in Conditioner [n]
> >>>> Dollops of semen strategically left in a woman's hairdo at a
> >>>> public gathering following fellatio. A good lesson for those who
> >>>> refuse swallow the evidence
> >>>>
> >>>> Matching Drapes [n]
> >>>> Reference to whether or not a woman's pubic hair color matches
> >>>> the hair on her head. Used in a sentence: "Wow what a
> >>>> hot looking redhead, but I wonder do the curtains match the
> >>>> drapes?".
> >>>>
> >>>> Mung [n, v]
> >>>> Two people dig up the corpse of the recently deceased. One
> >>>> undresses the mungee and places his mouth over the labia. The other
> >>>> backs up and does a running jump onto the corpses chest. The second
> >>>> person has to eat everything that enters his mouth. Insult, seen
> >>>> here in context: "I'm going to mung your grandmother!"
> >>>>
> >>>> Paying the Rent [n]
> >>>> A position in which the woman is folded in half, knees above 
>shoulders,
> >>>> while the man holds the back of her calves and bangs her
> >>>> ferociously.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pencil Sharpener [n]
> >>>> A chick who gives a rough and toothy blowjob that scrapes your willy 
>up
> >>>> something awful.
> >>>>
> >>>> Reading the Defense [n]
> >>>> The concept of a guy making a split second decision when in a
> >>>> situation to score with some chick when out without his
> >> girlfriend/wife.
> >>>> "Reading the Defense" refers to making all of the
> >>>> proper "game time adjustments" as to not get caught cheating later on 
>a
> >>> some
> >>>> point. Having Beer Goggles on makes it very hard to Read the Defense.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rusty Trombone [n]
> >>>> The process by which one person is tossing a guy's salad, and
> >>>> then reaches around and gives them a hand job.
> >>>>
> >>>> San Diego Surprise [n]
> >>>> The act of bringing a girl home and while fucking her, having a
> >>>> friend in waiting enter the room naked in hopes of a consensual
> >>>> threesome. Named by Navy guys stationed in San Diego. Rumored to work
> >>> about
> >>>> one third of the time.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Southern Trespass[n, v]
> >>>> The Southern Trespass most frequently occurs when an over
> >>>> zealous (drunk) man is involved in intercourse with his lady
> >>>> friend. Through lack of concentration, lack of coordination, or
> >>>> simply because he wants to do it, the man quickly switches from
> >>>> the woman's vagina to the corn hole, without missing a beat.
> >>>> If executed properly, this act catches the female by complete
> >>>> surprise,stunning her like a cattle prod to the ass in a rain storm. 
>No
> >>>> matter how long the man reaps the benefits of his efforts, he can now
> >> be
> >>>> content with the fact that he has committed the coveted Southern
> >> Trespass.
> >>>>
> >>>> Throwing A Pickle Down A Hallway [v]
> >>>> An expression for when you've just laid the pipe to some chick 
>(usually
> >>>> fat)who has a big loose box. Used in a sentence: I may as well have
> >> just
> >>>> thrown a pickle down the hallway instead of fucking Fat Fanny's loose
> >>> gash.
> >>>>
> >>>> Twinkler [n, v]
> >>>> When you are 69-ing with a honey and she gags on your member and
> >>>> you can see her bung-hole pucker up.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tupperware Party [n]
> >>>> When three guys are triple-teaming a chick...one with his penis
> >>>> in her mouth, another in her vagina, and the third in her anus. So
> >>>> named because she is sealed air-tight.
> >>>>
> >>>> Times Square Shuttle [n]
> >>>> You have two girls with you and they are in the 69 position with
> >>>> each other.You then alternately fuck each of them while they chow
> >>>> each other. You go from the missionary position on one
> >>>> and run to the other side and work in doggie style on the other
> >>>> one. Repeat as many times as necessary/possible.
> >>>> (aka Burning the Candle at Both Ends, Playing Ping Pong, The 
>GungaDin)
> >>>>
> >>>> Valsalva [n]
> >>>> The act of pinching shut (with thumb and forefinger) a woman's
> >>>> nose while receiving fellatio; most effective when employed just
> >>>> prior to the release point due to the gag reflex and
> >>>> ensuing swallow that the woman is forced to do to continue
> >>>> breathing. A great first date ploy, as it sets the stage for what the
> >>>> rules of engagement will be going forward.
> >>>>
> >
>
>
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Wake up, eat some Pop Tarts.
Do whatever you do with your day.
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Go out to a rave.
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Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to 
           introduce myself. My name is **fcku**. I live in **a box**. My first rave was **at your mom's** a few years ago. My music of choice is **country thrash punk**. Some events that 
           I'll never forget were, **your mom 1**, **your mom again** and **the bitch is back for more**.
           Well, that's all for now. I'm looking forward to hearing from all of you. 

         
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>My music of choice is **country thrash punk**. 

Is that anything like ambient jungle?

I'm a big down-tempo ambient fan myself 

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welcome to the list, x. We'll all look forward to taking advantage of **your 
mom** for allowing you to join this list. Please make sure to keep **your 
mom** clean for all of us.

thank you and we greatly appreciate **your mom** for joining
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ukmjinubhgtrnvfaero;,mcgof

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At 03:16 AM 2/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>ukmjinubhgtrnvfaero;,mcgof

easy for you to say!

(what list?)


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We have driven Paul Johnson to the point of insanity.  :)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 08:55:51 2000
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In a message dated 2/17/00 9:07:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< 
 nope, you lost your purpose after the aliens asked you
 to take them to your leader & in your drunken stupor,
 you took em to a cracked out michael knight pulling
 strange fury creatures outta his behind
 
 and thanx to you nothing has been the same ever since! >>

Wtf? And He isn't EVEN drunk...

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Friday February 18th, 2000
Cleveland, OH
MindLabz Productions Presents
MIND PHUCKED
DJs for the Nite are:
Ian Mariano
Deepblue
Dj Zona
Dj Nocturnal
Dj Wizdom
Spaz
Det-N-8r
and more TBA
This is my b-day party and a reflection on how I feel (MindPhucked)
This event will be $10 before midnite and $15 after
NO drugs, alcohol, bottles, weapons, or bad vibes!
Please do bring friends, smiles, and your dancing shoes!
Call the info line for directions to the event
and..............................
Hope to see you there!!!
INFO LINE------1(440) 954-4078

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 10:32:36 2000
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+anyone?

good damn question.

what do you mean by "life"?

chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 12:14:37 2000
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http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/mw/calendar/cal

for those who didn't know it existed, there is a mw-raves calendar you can
get by e-mail each week.

to s*bscribe, send a message to majordomo@hyperreal.org and put

s*bscribe mw-raves-calendar  in the body of the message (filling in the
stars with the appropriate letter :) ).

if you know of any events that aren't on the calendar, mail
nick@hyperreal.org...  he does a really good job of maintaining the
thing.
:)

me love you long time.

chad
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 12:51:50 2000
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if anyone from the list really DOES want to run for public office, 
i'm sure something can be arranged to "alter somewhat" the way the
archives appear on the web.

perhaps, for a small fee, we could tweek it to your advantage...
nothing big, just little stories of saving drug addicts from destroying
themselves through inspirational speeches... stories of being known to be
the only person sober at rave parties (because face it...it's gonna come
out that you did go to parties anyways).

then you could use that as part of your campaign!

i could also advertise...not in the usual sense, but in a more DIRECT
sense.  drop product names here and there that don't necessarily grab your
attention, but do cross the mind.

and next time your shopping you see the product, and instead of passing it
up, you go "oh hell, why not?"

i'm not talking about radio commercials, or tv commercials, i'm
talking about agents who are paid simply to influence the average joe
through everyday interaction. 

a company who's been around for awhile, and has been running the program
for a while (if done to its fullest potential) may eventually see songs
written about their product without having to pay the artists... may see
presidents speak of their product, may see RELIGEOUS LEADERS claim that
this product is "better" than another.  even news storys... to generate
that sense of "hype" your product needs to stay well ahead of the game.

this could really be a lucrative business!

what's really scary, is that this is probably not a new idea :/

peace,
chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 13:01:27 2000
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Sorry it took me so long to respond to my friends but, Here it is.          
My name is Paul Johnson And when I was 16 all of this shit happened to me. I 
was accidentally shot by one of my friends. He was unloading his gun and it 
went off and hit me in the chest. It felt like someone dropped a car on me. I 
couldn't move or breathe. I didn't know that I was shot because I didn't feel 
it and I didn't bleed. So I kept trying to get up and realized that I was 
paralized. I then thought that my life was over, I thought that I would never 
be able to do anything again. I was an athelete. I played 
baseball-football-swam-wrestled-and was a very fast runner. It was in my 
blood. And I was D.Jing as a hobbie. A few months after my accident I was 
able to come home. It took me one year to get used to the fact that I was 
paralized and I had to move on with my life. I was blessed to be able to have 
feeling in half of my body. So I went on.                                       
                                                                                
                                                                              
  After everything that I loved to do was taken away from me, I decided to 
make D.Jing my life and started doing parties in my home and making tracks to 
play of my own. Word spread of my parties and I met some people who could get 
me a job at a radio station. I loved that idea and went for it. I had to 
audition in front of all of the staff and I killed it. I was added to the 
station immediately, and Then word spread of my skills on the tables. I then 
met someone who could get me a job at a club. I was hesitant at first because 
I didn't know how people would react but, I'm very strong and said fuck it. 
To my surprise it shocked everyone to see someone with a wheelchair D.Jing 
and I was instantly respected and told I was an inspiration. I was doing 
things that most D.J's couldn't do walking and that Made me shoot to the top 
of the club game. At the same time I decided to take a chance and join a 
record label. the owner of the label loved my music and signed me. I was 
still going through the pain of my accident but, I kept on. I was afriad to 
talk to girls because of the situation but, to my surprise they didn't seem 
to care about anything.The chair didn't stop shit. I found out quickly that 
women were amazingly limber and creative. (My My My). I kept up my hard work 
and word started traveling about me. I started getting requests to go to 
other clubs and play-then other Cities-then other Countries. In 1991 I was 
Recognized around the world as an up coming D.J. and producer When I got up 
to doing three nights a week I knew I needed something different in my life, 
Then in 1994 I did my first rave. Soon after I started traveling more and 
more until I was in other Countries more then I was home.    My productions 
Had been creating new styles of house music each time I made a record. Case 
in point. (1990-Overload started the basement style that's become 
underground). ( 1992-Feel my mother fuckin bass in your face & Fuckin Suckin 
Satrted the style currently known as Ghetto house). ( 1993-Weak/I feel good/& 
Rescue me started the trend of sampling R&B songs and bringing them up to 
house tempo). It became obviuos that I was not joking with my position. And 
As I got older I got wiser to the game labels played with their artists.After 
getting fucked several times by so called labels, I decided to do shit for 
myself.  I own two record labels here in Chicago. I now get $5,000 to play at 
parties and I'm one of the most requested D.J's in America. I now have 58 
records out to date and last year all of my hard work paid off. I went #1 in 
seven Countries with my single Get Get down. I had a video for it running on 
MTV  and The BOX world wide. I won awards and Did live performances on T.V. 
shows. I Just bought a house and got a $150,000 studio built in down town 
Chicago which me and all of my rave friends are going to party in all the 
time. I am very considerate and understanding as a person and I respect 
people's lives. Now for some reason, I seem to be a sex magnet. I don't know 
what it is but, I know that I got it. Right now I'm being asked to join 
Virgin records, this will be my biggest contract yet, So for those of you who 
have faith in me, keep your fingers crossed my Sisters and Brothers. Their 
offering me $0,000,000 So I'm just waiting for the final word. Through all of 
this surprisingly, I'm single. I know you don't believe me but, I get so much 
attention Producing and D.Jing that I never think about it until I go to 
sleep at night by my damn self. (LOL) It's hard to know who want's your money 
or just wants you so, I just do what I do and Hope she introduces herself to 
me one night. If I bored any of you with this, Forgive me but, Several people 
have been asking me what I did to get here. Thank you for taking the time out 
to read this. I love all who party and get wild. Peace & love 4 life.....Paul 
J.......     P.S. I don't mind private emails...        Be safe everybody and 
don't stop partying!!!!!!

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In a message dated 2/18/2000 8:01:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Cufilifi@aol.com writes:

<< Through all of 
 this surprisingly, I'm single. I know you don't believe me but, I get so 
much 
 attention Producing and D.Jing that I never think about it until I go to 
 sleep at night by my damn self. (LOL) It's hard to know who want's your 
money 
 or just wants you so, I just do what I do and Hope she introduces herself to 
 me one night.  >>

Paul, your life and music have definitley been an inspiration to all of us, 
even those of us who aren't necessarily house fans. As far as you being 
single, I know a certain girl named MARY (in Nashville), and I know you know 
her too, who would love to take care of that for you....

sorry for the mary shots
shawne

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In a message dated 02/17/1970, 6:39:58 PM, TekkgirIie@aol.com writes:
<<chadisahardcoretechnosnob>>


FUCK TECHNO
















Thank God for Wendy's Hamburgers.













Bwhaaahaaa!

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We have spent countless hours on our info line and our email counting
votes and the results are in!  We still need to confirm the DJ's, but
the results will be released very soon.  Just a reminder presale
glowsticks are available at both Record Time Ferndale and Roseville, and
Groovy Train in Ferndale.  Presale ticket sales will be cut off on
February 29, 2000 for the March 3rd Event.  SAVE MONEY, BUY PRESALE!!!
Please have your tickets glowing when you arrive at the door.  Also have
your eye out for the new flyers featuring the 5 most wanted DJ's.

Stay tuned for more info,
Goose

Coming Soon..... with a new and improved voting system.
Detroit's Most Wanted II
Chicago's Most Wanted

--
DJ's Most Wanted

Phone: 313.438.1767
Email: info@djsmostwanted.com
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What:  Detroit's Most Wanted
When:  March 3, 2000 10pm - ?
Who:   You decide!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 15:10:54 2000
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Following up Chad's message about the calendar.
Someone forwarded to me that this information is missing.

Does anybody know the promoters of these parties?
Does anyone have a flier that they want to take 5 minutes of time to
write up a little text flier for me?

As always, help is appreciated.  :)  And your contributions MAKE the
calendar what it is.

Love,
  Nick


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:32:29 EST
From: HouseBabylon@aol.com
To: nick@hyperreal.org
Subject: Entries on the Calendar

Just some Indy dates that I saw missing from the calendar:

FEB 25th - Friday - BURN! @ The HotSpot

FEB 26th - Saturday - DiRTY LiTTLE SECRET

MARCH 17th - Friday - PANTY RAiD _Pleasure Dome PreParty_

MARCH 24th - Friday - MiCROCOSM version 1.0

MARCH 31st - Friday - (3rd Degree)BURN! @ The HotSpot

Thank you!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 15:16:21 2000
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Amen to that!  Techno sucks.  And so does Richie Hawtin.

Love and kises,
  Nick

P.S. - Look at the content of this post and then look at the subject of
the email.  Does it REALLY make sense to you?

On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 PHILFART@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 02/17/1970, 6:39:58 PM, TekkgirIie@aol.com writes:
> <<chadisahardcoretechnosnob>>
> 
> 
> FUCK TECHNO


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He's right, it is in Lake Havasu, they disasembled it,
and reconstructed it their.

--- Fergus <fergcore@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> ><<The London Bridge isn't in London you ass...it's
> in Lake Havasu, Arizona.>>
> >
> >no, no, i think you're having flashbacks from when 
> >you had that bad trip & thought about jumping off
> >that bridge because some kid beamed you in the
> >head with that can of arizona iced tea, because you
> >were screaming about the aliens coming to steal
> >all the earth's hamsters cuz for some reason the
> >first message they decrypted was the message on
> >the beer belly of the first humanoid they abducted
> >to hypnotize with their plans to take over the
> world
> >thru really bad cheesy techno...
> 
> 
> I was dead serious Stevie.  The London Bridge is in
> Lake Havasu City,
> Arizona.  I suggest you know what you are talking
> about before you type
> such lame shit to me.
> 
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At 07:31 AM 2/18/00 -0800, you wrote:
>He's right, it is in Lake Havasu, they disasembled it,
>and reconstructed it their.


SHE is right :)


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On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, pixie wrote:

> From: "pixie" <pixie@bluegrass.net>
> 
> anyone not have any kind of important plans for march 29-april 5?
> 

nothing but my BIRTHDAY on the 30th... *hint hint*


> wanna come with me to london? (yeah, as in england)
> 

Fuck yeah, I'll go!

> you gotta buy your own stuff...i just don't feel like travelling
> completely alone...
> 

oh fuck, there's the catch... make it a birthday present??? ;) damn...
I've not been to london before either. =(


> if you think you could swing it, drop me a line, i'll give you the details

oh well. one can dream.

-Becky =)

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ferreal...you're not being a very good mascot, steviet.
you have 30 seconds to get your shit together

doris wrote:

> > um, what does this have to do with the sunscreen that
> > michael uses to create the farmer's tan "hamsters rule!"
> > tattoo on his beer belly?
>
> hi.
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wow...I own only one house record, and it's yours.  thanks for being.

Cufilifi@aol.com wrote:

> Sorry it took me so long to respond to my friends but, Here it is.
> My name is Paul Johnson And when I was 16 all of this shit happened to me. I
> was accidentally shot by one of my friends. He was unloading his gun and it
> went off and hit me in the chest. It felt like someone dropped a car on me. I
> couldn't move or breathe. I didn't know that I was shot because I didn't feel
> it and I didn't bleed. So I kept trying to get up and realized that I was
> paralized. I then thought that my life was over, I thought that I would never
> be able to do anything again. I was an athelete. I played
> baseball-football-swam-wrestled-and was a very fast runner. It was in my
> blood. And I was D.Jing as a hobbie. A few months after my accident I was
> able to come home. It took me one year to get used to the fact that I was
> paralized and I had to move on with my life. I was blessed to be able to have
> feeling in half of my body. So I went on.
>
>
>   After everything that I loved to do was taken away from me, I decided to
> make D.Jing my life and started doing parties in my home and making tracks to
> play of my own. Word spread of my parties and I met some people who could get
> me a job at a radio station. I loved that idea and went for it. I had to
> audition in front of all of the staff and I killed it. I was added to the
> station immediately, and Then word spread of my skills on the tables. I then
> met someone who could get me a job at a club. I was hesitant at first because
> I didn't know how people would react but, I'm very strong and said fuck it.
> To my surprise it shocked everyone to see someone with a wheelchair D.Jing
> and I was instantly respected and told I was an inspiration. I was doing
> things that most D.J's couldn't do walking and that Made me shoot to the top
> of the club game. At the same time I decided to take a chance and join a
> record label. the owner of the label loved my music and signed me. I was
> still going through the pain of my accident but, I kept on. I was afriad to
> talk to girls because of the situation but, to my surprise they didn't seem
> to care about anything.The chair didn't stop shit. I found out quickly that
> women were amazingly limber and creative. (My My My). I kept up my hard work
> and word started traveling about me. I started getting requests to go to
> other clubs and play-then other Cities-then other Countries. In 1991 I was
> Recognized around the world as an up coming D.J. and producer When I got up
> to doing three nights a week I knew I needed something different in my life,
> Then in 1994 I did my first rave. Soon after I started traveling more and
> more until I was in other Countries more then I was home.    My productions
> Had been creating new styles of house music each time I made a record. Case
> in point. (1990-Overload started the basement style that's become
> underground). ( 1992-Feel my mother fuckin bass in your face & Fuckin Suckin
> Satrted the style currently known as Ghetto house). ( 1993-Weak/I feel good/&
> Rescue me started the trend of sampling R&B songs and bringing them up to
> house tempo). It became obviuos that I was not joking with my position. And
> As I got older I got wiser to the game labels played with their artists.After
> getting fucked several times by so called labels, I decided to do shit for
> myself.  I own two record labels here in Chicago. I now get $5,000 to play at
> parties and I'm one of the most requested D.J's in America. I now have 58
> records out to date and last year all of my hard work paid off. I went #1 in
> seven Countries with my single Get Get down. I had a video for it running on
> MTV  and The BOX world wide. I won awards and Did live performances on T.V.
> shows. I Just bought a house and got a $150,000 studio built in down town
> Chicago which me and all of my rave friends are going to party in all the
> time. I am very considerate and understanding as a person and I respect
> people's lives. Now for some reason, I seem to be a sex magnet. I don't know
> what it is but, I know that I got it. Right now I'm being asked to join
> Virgin records, this will be my biggest contract yet, So for those of you who
> have faith in me, keep your fingers crossed my Sisters and Brothers. Their
> offering me $0,000,000 So I'm just waiting for the final word. Through all of
> this surprisingly, I'm single. I know you don't believe me but, I get so much
> attention Producing and D.Jing that I never think about it until I go to
> sleep at night by my damn self. (LOL) It's hard to know who want's your money
> or just wants you so, I just do what I do and Hope she introduces herself to
> me one night. If I bored any of you with this, Forgive me but, Several people
> have been asking me what I did to get here. Thank you for taking the time out
> to read this. I love all who party and get wild. Peace & love 4 life.....Paul
> J.......     P.S. I don't mind private emails...        Be safe everybody and
> don't stop partying!!!!!!
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testeeng


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> i think a candy ravah girlee asked jon gotti if she
> could see his liquid...so he peed on her.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 16:27:36 2000
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/* It appears the list is filtering out any message of mine that
includes html...why?  I can't even post a link!!!
here goes again (reiteration #4) */

Well, it looks like you side-swiped a message of mine from ever showing
up...shame on you!
oh well...I was *really* bored at work yesterday afternoon, and to amuse
myself I scanned the mw- gangsign.  I put it online and posted the link,
but some foo foo head cut the post off.

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peace...gregori


Rachel Martz wrote:

>>>  I attempted to attach the URL where our flyer can be viewed...when
I
>>>  checked my message in the my 'SENT' file, it actually attached the
>>>  images of the flyer (cringing).
>>>
>>>  I'd be cursing if someone sent it to me.
>>>
>>>  Won't ever try that again. Promise.


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now that's screwy

http://www.testing.com/


gregori wrote:

> /* It appears the list is filtering out any message of mine that
> includes html...why?  I can't even post a link!!!
> here goes again (reiteration #4) */
>
> Well, it looks like you side-swiped a message of mine from ever showing
> up...shame on you!
> oh well...I was *really* bored at work yesterday afternoon, and to amuse
> myself I scanned the mw- gangsign.  I put it online and posted the link,
> but some foo foo head cut the post off.
>
> /* because of unknown limitations, you'll have to copy and paste this
> into your browser */
> http://thunder.prohosting.com/~covert/temp/mwrvz.html
>
> peace...gregori
>
> Rachel Martz wrote:
>
> >>>  I attempted to attach the URL where our flyer can be viewed...when
> I
> >>>  checked my message in the my 'SENT' file, it actually attached the
> >>>  images of the flyer (cringing).
> >>>
> >>>  I'd be cursing if someone sent it to me.
> >>>
> >>>  Won't ever try that again. Promise.
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 17:03:44 2000
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Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to 
introduce myself. My name is **steve**. I live in **a computer**. My first
rave was **at your grandpa's** a few years ago. My music of choice is 
**hardcore synthpop**. Some events that I'll never forget were, **your
cousin 1**, **your cousin too** and **bangin' the cousin all night**.
Well, that's all for now. I'm looking forward to hearing from all of you. 


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me too



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 17:06:00 2000
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what list?

(i want to play)

-----Original Message-----
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Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to 
introduce myself. My name is **steve**. I live in **a computer**. My first
rave was **at your grandpa's** a few years ago. My music of choice is 
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> Is that anything like ambient jungle?

dolphin jungle!

> I'm a big down-tempo ambient fan myself 

i've been all about two-step deathcore ambiant lately myself.

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--- mattdemon <demmon@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd
> take a moment to 
> introduce myself. My name is **Jon**. I live in
> **box**. My first
> rave was **last night** a few years ago. My
> music of choice is 
> **progressive house**. Some events that I'll never
> forget were, **your
> box**, **your cousin box** and **bangin' the
box all night**.
> Well, that's all for now. I'm looking forward to
> hearing from all of you. 
> 
> 
> I LOVE Mattlibs!!!
> 
> Jon aka scruffy, the feline wonder snake
> 
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>i've been all about two-step deathcore ambiant lately myself.
>
YOU TOO?!?!

damn...and I thought I was the only one on the list who liked that stuff...

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, jes wrote:
> i've been all about two-step deathcore ambiant lately myself.

Whoa, two step ambientcore!  That was my "genre" for a while.  Or at least
what I told people.  

Yesterday Bombardier was telling me about when he used to live in San
Francisco and people were trying to start a "gambient" movement- ambient
gabber.  Basically ambient with a quiet, fast bass drum.  Weird, eh?

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Jon Gotti your gay


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hehehehehe


you guys are all funny


i wonder if the london bridge in AZ looks like the Tower Bridge....none of
them ever actually look like London Bridge

bah
pixie



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>Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to
>introduce myself. My name is **not a real person**. I live in **someones 
>head**. My first
>rave was **no where** a few years ago. My music of choice is
>**none**. Some events that I'll never forget were, **my unbirthday**, 
>**opposite day** and **nothing**.
>Well, that's all for now. I'm not looking forward to hearing from all of 
>you.
>
>
>"I LOVE M"ocking fake newbies.


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: Hi everyone. I'm new to this list, and thought I'd take a moment to
:            introduce myself. My name is **null**. I live in **null**. My
first rave was **null** a few years ago. : My music of choice is **null**.
Some events that
:            I'll never forget were, **null**, **null** and **null**.
:            Well, that's all for now. I'm looking forward to hearing from
all of you.
:
:
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From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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Subject: [mw] Do It Again
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12 Am...i'm up in da club

1 Am  i'm nookin' pa nub

2 Am I'm lookin' ta dance

3 Am...I get my chance....

4 Am...can't get enough

5 Am it's gettin' rough

6 Am gotta leave the scene
  my ride  pulls up.....it's a limosine

7 Am...let my dreams begin...cause @

12 Am..i'm gonna do it again... :P


heh..just my little rendition of Jay-Z's Do it Again track..which i might=

add..is the shit....

Peace n Blessin's
Respect Yo Self...One Love

Fuego :)


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>  By Robert Ward
>
>LOUD music stimulates a part of the ear connected to the brain'spleasure
>centre which controls the body's cravings for sex and food, scientists
>report today.
>
>People's response to the thumping beat of pop music is controlled by a
>tiny organ in the inner ear, called the sacculus, that is not thought to
>have any hearing function. The sacculus, which sends messages to the
>hypothalamus, normally controls our sense of balance, but is also
>sensitive to noises above 90 decibels, say the researchers at Manchester
>University.
>
>When the volume of a sound is turned up, it generates vibrations that
>are picked up by the sacculus, said Neill Todd, who led the research
>team. The sacculus is probably inherited from a fish-like ancestor.
>
>Dr Todd told New Scientist: "The distribution of frequencies that are
>typical in rock concerts and at dance clubs almost seem designed to
>stimulate the sacculus. They are absolutely smack bang in this range of
>sensitivity."
>
>According to Dr Todd, whose research will be published later this year
>in the journal Hearing Research, loud sounds may create the same
>sensations people feel when they sit on a swing or bungee-jump. The
>connection of the sacculus to the pleasure centre in the brain means
>that people gain a pleasurable buzz when they listen to loud music, and
>may explain its popularity.
>
>Fish are the only animals known to use the sacculus for hearing, and
>appear to be sensitive to the same range of frequencies as people. This
>suggests the organ evolved from a common ancestor.
>
>Dr Neill's team tested 11 students who listened to tone pips of varying
>frequencies. The experiments showed that the sacculus was sensitive to
>sounds having a frequency of 50 hertz to 1,000 hertz, with a peak
>between 300 and 350 hertz. Male voices can reach up to 200 hertz, while
>women can hit 400 hertz.
>
>As the sacculus lies deep inside the ear, the researchers were unable to
>measure directly its reaction to sound. However, the sacculus sends
>electrical signals through the neck to regulate the balance of the
>head.The researchers used electrodes to measure the extra signals
>produced in response to sound while the students tensed their necks to
>keep their heads still.
>
>**************************************************************************************************
>
>cavil:  "Male voices can reach up to 200 hertz, while women can hit 400
>hertz." ?????
>
>
>

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Sounds like fun kiddo.  Unfortunately, my Prof. thought it was a "good" i=
dea
to schedule an astronomy lecture tomorrow morning at 8:45 at the Alder
Planetarium *fat sloppy santa clause lookin' bastard ass bitch*
ahem...ahem...pardon me.  So yeah, my Sat. looks like i'll be getting my
"learn on" instead, which may not be such an awful thing.  :P


One Love...Respect yo self.

Fuego!



"theChef" <ionicsix@mail.UNTRANSLATABLE.COM> wrote:
HEY =

if any one will be in chicago this coming sat morn.......
  SKL is joining Peoples Republic Of Delicuois Food, in a parade
down the length of michigan ave.

it will start at 8 am by the "watertower building" downtown

theChef will be chasing people in giant food costumes with a 5ft knife!

skl or die!!

x

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 18:39:04 2000
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a very interesting story, i must admit.

but i don't think you can claim to have started ghetto house with "Feel My 
MF Bass" and "Fuckin Suckin".... cuz frankly, paul, ghetto was around long 
before that.

also, i want to get paid $5000 for a gig.

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just a friendly reminder for those who may have missed it...

thursday february 24th

solidstate and nice musique welcome you to the first installment of

OCTOPUSSY

john acquaviva
synergy

cardinal - 418 east wilson street madison wisconsin
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i wish i lived in San Diego  

Febuary 16, 2000 (Wednesday) - @ E. St. Alley FIRST SD appearance: RICHIE 
HAWTIN, Barry Weaver, Sotero, Phil Aye 9pm-4am 300 presales available for $10 
at Mileage in PB $15 at the door. Info Line: 619.969.7285 

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and here's another reminder...

wednesday 3/23/00

solidstate presents...

PHONO

John Acquaviva
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dish 235 south second street milwaukee
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 18 19:11:25 2000
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> Jon Gotti your gay

and, you point being??
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i'm not sure how i feel about this, but i think a few of you can appreciate
it...

http://hatred.humpin.org/ckmisc/quotes.html

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Does the x in the toipc mean ecstasy?  Because I'm rolling SOOOO hard!

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[>Does the x in the toipc mean ecstasy?  Because I'm rolling SOOOO
[>hard!

do you want a backrub?

how about a blow-pop?

you should smoke up when your roll comes down.  it feels SO good.

oh, shit!  i _did_ bring my inhaler!  do you want a seabreeze?

it looks like you're grinding pretty hard, maybe you should take this
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In a message dated 2/18/00 8:09:08 PM !!!First Boot!!!, atomly@atomly.com 
writes:

> Does the x in the toipc mean ecstasy?  Because I'm rolling SOOOO hard!

Hey, wanna SeaBreeze...

turn around...

I'll give you a back rub,..

yeah.. feels nice?

Your lowerback is so tense...

Let me.... yeah, feel better...?

Cool?

Let's undue your pants, so I can hit that lower back some more...

Yeah...


Oh...
what's this....


(And that is the story of how the straight raver got turn out 
 by some common fag at a party.  All you ladies, when you
 ask your raver boyfriend if he ever did it with a guy and he
 said "yes".... chances are, it was this scenerio.  NOW maybe
 bitches willcalm down on the E intake.)

-Chocolate
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being a poser


what are YOU doing on this list?
fucking goatraping hermaphrodite....

zone <zone@stargate.net> wrote: 

what in the hell are you doing on ths list?
fucking Yunzer....


zone

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>1.  I'm prolly gonna need some help promoting wise, 
>who wants me to send them flyers for Courts of Chaos?
>Give me your infoline number as well, if you want it 
>to appear on the flyer for promo support.
>
>2.  I just got a new batch of dj Avatar tapes for 
>promoters interested.  Also djmoose tapes are for 
sale 
>on the iv website (please excuse the condition of it, 
>john is mad lazy!) http://fly.to/infinitevelocity
>
>thanks
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>
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zone <zone@stargate.net> wrote: 
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> what in the hell are you doing on ths list?
> fucking Yunzer....
> 
> 
> zone
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jester Distortion <insubordinate@zworg.com>
> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 7:38 PM
> Subject: [mw] promo support/ and iv tapes
> 
> 
> >1.  I'm prolly gonna need some help promoting wise, 
> >who wants me to send them flyers for Courts of 
Chaos?
> >Give me your infoline number as well, if you want 
it 
> >to appear on the flyer for promo support.
> >
> >2.  I just got a new batch of dj Avatar tapes for 
> >promoters interested.  Also djmoose tapes are for 
sale 
> >on the iv website (please excuse the condition of 
it, 
> >john is mad lazy!) http://fly.to/infinitevelocity
> >
> >thanks
> >--
> >Jester
> >
> >*********************************************
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> >412.734.5425
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>From: the falls chevy savings guy <chad@hyperreal.org>
>To: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] Whats the purpose of life?
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:32:34 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>+anyone?
>
>good damn question.
>
>what do you mean by "life"?

At first I thought you were being cute (and I was going to respond with 
"what do you mean by 'mean'") but I think I did fail to completely clarify 
my meaning.

I do ask it in the classic sense of the question:  "What should my personal 
behaviors be in the time I am alive?  What goals should I strive for?"  [I 
am not looking for the purpose of "life" in the general sense (animals and 
dna and all that stuff).]

When put like this though, the question seems less like it has any answer 
that would satisfy me...

Maybe though I mean this: "The purpose of my life is to be happy.  What 
should I do to maximize my happiness."

But then how would you know?

phoqt,
adam



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So is that why I get all hot and bothered when someone breathes in my ear
at 325hz above 90db?

Matt

On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, that Paul guy wrote:

> 
> >  By Robert Ward
> >
> >LOUD music stimulates a part of the ear connected to the brain'spleasure
> >centre which controls the body's cravings for sex and food, scientists
> >report today.
> >
> >People's response to the thumping beat of pop music is controlled by a
> >tiny organ in the inner ear, called the sacculus, that is not thought to
> >have any hearing function. The sacculus, which sends messages to the
> >hypothalamus, normally controls our sense of balance, but is also
> >sensitive to noises above 90 decibels, say the researchers at Manchester
> >University.
> >
> >When the volume of a sound is turned up, it generates vibrations that
> >are picked up by the sacculus, said Neill Todd, who led the research
> >team. The sacculus is probably inherited from a fish-like ancestor.
> >
> >Dr Todd told New Scientist: "The distribution of frequencies that are
> >typical in rock concerts and at dance clubs almost seem designed to
> >stimulate the sacculus. They are absolutely smack bang in this range of
> >sensitivity."
> >
> >According to Dr Todd, whose research will be published later this year
> >in the journal Hearing Research, loud sounds may create the same
> >sensations people feel when they sit on a swing or bungee-jump. The
> >connection of the sacculus to the pleasure centre in the brain means
> >that people gain a pleasurable buzz when they listen to loud music, and
> >may explain its popularity.
> >
> >Fish are the only animals known to use the sacculus for hearing, and
> >appear to be sensitive to the same range of frequencies as people. This
> >suggests the organ evolved from a common ancestor.
> >
> >Dr Neill's team tested 11 students who listened to tone pips of varying
> >frequencies. The experiments showed that the sacculus was sensitive to
> >sounds having a frequency of 50 hertz to 1,000 hertz, with a peak
> >between 300 and 350 hertz. Male voices can reach up to 200 hertz, while
> >women can hit 400 hertz.
> >
> >As the sacculus lies deep inside the ear, the researchers were unable to
> >measure directly its reaction to sound. However, the sacculus sends
> >electrical signals through the neck to regulate the balance of the
> >head.The researchers used electrodes to measure the extra signals
> >produced in response to sound while the students tensed their necks to
> >keep their heads still.
> >
> >**************************************************************************************************
> >
> >cavil:  "Male voices can reach up to 200 hertz, while women can hit 400
> >hertz." ?????
> >
> >
> >
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me too

On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:

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Adam Meadows wrote:

> Maybe though I mean this: "The purpose of my life is to be happy.  What
> should I do to maximize my happiness."

Don't make the purpose of your life to maximize your happiness.  Contentment is
better than happiness, per se.

Make no goal too definite.

Have as few expectations as possible (this is not the same as lowering
expectations).

Make intuitive decisions, but beware of desire conflicting with your innate
sensibilities.

Neither accept nor deny; appreciate.

Express yourself.

Appreciate and reflect on everything that brings you joy.

Try to see things from the perspective of others as much as possible.  Try to
understand others based on your self-understanding.

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If any one still has the responces from my last post of (my life as it is). 
Will you please forward them to me. For some reason I can't recieve them. I 
know their there because someone recieved them but, He erased them already. 
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life is meaningless, and it's meaningless that it's meaningless






now go and create

PJ


>From: Todd Moody <x97moody2@wmich.edu>
>Reply-To: Todd Moody <x97moody2@wmich.edu>
>To: Adam Meadows <adameadows@hotmail.com>,  microcosmic celebrities 
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>Subject: Re: [mw] Whats the purpose of life?
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:26:30 -0500
>
>Adam Meadows wrote:
>
> > Maybe though I mean this: "The purpose of my life is to be happy.  What
> > should I do to maximize my happiness."
>
>Don't make the purpose of your life to maximize your happiness.  
>Contentment is
>better than happiness, per se.
>
>Make no goal too definite.
>
>Have as few expectations as possible (this is not the same as lowering
>expectations).
>
>Make intuitive decisions, but beware of desire conflicting with your innate
>sensibilities.
>
>Neither accept nor deny; appreciate.
>
>Express yourself.
>
>Appreciate and reflect on everything that brings you joy.
>
>Try to see things from the perspective of others as much as possible.  Try 
>to
>understand others based on your self-understanding.
>
>Open yourself to the beauty and perfection that surrounds you constantly.
>
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In a message dated 02/18/1970, 11:31:31 AM, jes@pubnix.org writes:
<<i've been all about two-step deathcore ambiant lately myself.
>>

Fuck that...

it's all about 5.3 step hardbag progresso waltz-step illbient garage

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:In a message dated 02/18/1970, 11:31:31 AM, jes@pubnix.org writes:
:<<i've been all about two-step deathcore ambiant lately myself.
:>>
:
:Fuck that...
:
:it's all about 5.3 step hardbag progresso waltz-step illbient garage


tres asked me to tell you all that it's all about the polkacore

suckabitches ;]

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>From: PHILFART@aol.com
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>In a message dated 02/18/1970, 11:31:31 AM, jes@pubnix.org writes:
><<i've been all about two-step deathcore ambiant lately myself.
> >>
>
>Fuck that...
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Progressive translucent Rotund Hydrochloric acid mushroom jazzcore



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John Berman wrote:

> After a two -year long study, The National Science
> Foundation announced the following results on Corporate
> America's recreational preferences:
>
> 1. The sport of choice for male unemployed or incarcerated
>    individuals is BASKETBALL
> 2. The sport of choice for male maintenance level employees
>    is BOWLING
> 3. The sport of choice for male front-line workers is FOOTBALL
> 4. The sport of choice for male supervisors is BASEBALL
> 5. The sport of choice for male middle management is TENNIS
> 6. The sport of choice for male corporate officers is GOLF.
>
> Conclusion: The higher you are in the corporate structure, the
>     smaller your balls become.





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Yeah.... ill be there, all alone =(
but yeah Ill be wearing a yellow Polo shirt, dark blue pants.... blue 
messanger bag... 
i really wouldnt mind meeting some of the 'newer' minneapolis mw-raves 
listees.. I also cant wait to see Nadine! "Of which that i love more than 
like, most stuff"! 
Hah!
Ok yeah im here and ready... WOO 17 hours of sleep bayyyyyybay!

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The purpose of life is achieve peace and  tranquility within your soul.  =
>From
there transfer it to other individuals.  I seek peace and tranquility eve=
ryday
in all that I do.  It is what I do, It is what my lifes energy is spent o=
n. =

Through each person and experience I have I get one more step closer to m=
y
goal...and that to me what the purpose of life is.  Love is life and life=
 is
living.



Fuego!

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so this is why i always end-up with a raging hard-on at parties!



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>Subject: [mw] Fwd: Loud music stimulates sex centre in the brain
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:35:59 CST
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>
>>  By Robert Ward
>>
>>LOUD music stimulates a part of the ear connected to the brain'spleasure
>>centre which controls the body's cravings for sex and food, scientists
>>report today.
>>
>>People's response to the thumping beat of pop music is controlled by a
>>tiny organ in the inner ear, called the sacculus, that is not thought to
>>have any hearing function. The sacculus, which sends messages to the
>>hypothalamus, normally controls our sense of balance, but is also
>>sensitive to noises above 90 decibels, say the researchers at Manchester
>>University.
>>
>>When the volume of a sound is turned up, it generates vibrations that
>>are picked up by the sacculus, said Neill Todd, who led the research
>>team. The sacculus is probably inherited from a fish-like ancestor.
>>
>>Dr Todd told New Scientist: "The distribution of frequencies that are
>>typical in rock concerts and at dance clubs almost seem designed to
>>stimulate the sacculus. They are absolutely smack bang in this range of
>>sensitivity."
>>
>>According to Dr Todd, whose research will be published later this year
>>in the journal Hearing Research, loud sounds may create the same
>>sensations people feel when they sit on a swing or bungee-jump. The
>>connection of the sacculus to the pleasure centre in the brain means
>>that people gain a pleasurable buzz when they listen to loud music, and
>>may explain its popularity.
>>
>>Fish are the only animals known to use the sacculus for hearing, and
>>appear to be sensitive to the same range of frequencies as people. This
>>suggests the organ evolved from a common ancestor.
>>
>>Dr Neill's team tested 11 students who listened to tone pips of varying
>>frequencies. The experiments showed that the sacculus was sensitive to
>>sounds having a frequency of 50 hertz to 1,000 hertz, with a peak
>>between 300 and 350 hertz. Male voices can reach up to 200 hertz, while
>>women can hit 400 hertz.
>>
>>As the sacculus lies deep inside the ear, the researchers were unable to
>>measure directly its reaction to sound. However, the sacculus sends
>>electrical signals through the neck to regulate the balance of the
>>head.The researchers used electrodes to measure the extra signals
>>produced in response to sound while the students tensed their necks to
>>keep their heads still.
>>
>>**************************************************************************************************
>>
>>cavil:  "Male voices can reach up to 200 hertz, while women can hit 400
>>hertz." ?????
>>
>>
>>
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anyone know if the event at the U of Iowa is sold out yet? 
eric
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i just wanted to get a few things off my chest and change the subject a bit
on these lists that may see this...heres some of the tracks ive been banging
lately...hopefully ill get some of these recorded over the next couple weeks
as part of my new tape...this is coming publically and privately so some
people on my selected techno friendly private bcc list may see this twice

transit 01/transit 02 myungho choi-these came highly recommended and now im
highly recommending them to you...checking their website, these have both
been out for awhile (last summer) but seemingly have only gotten on the
stock lists recently...if you are into detroitish techno with a bit of thump
and drive these will be up your alley...add a couple doses of experimental
electronics and you have a nice domestic package of techno with an ultra
clean and durable press...they also sport nice auto related labels...did i
mention that they (transit records) were from columbus, oh making this
locally relevant and essential those techno lovers in the region???

azure 01-vjek ep
heres another local wonder via indianapolis and dayton...vjek from dayton
has dropped a nice ep of landstrummesque meets chicago techno on adam jays
new azure imprint...if you dig peacefrog era stuff from 1995-1996 this is up
your crank hole...again...more local guys getting it done with quality and
effort...and it shows...these are selling quick so get your orders in @ your
local record shop...

shawn rudiman-evidence of life (7th city)
hello...do the techno lovers in this area need another fucking wakeup
call??? heres one of the more stunning eps ive heard this year...bleepy tech
house and smooth detroit style groovers via dan bells 7th city label...i
love it and have been banging it lately...come to think of it i dig his (2)
TR GENERATION eps on hypervinyl (local pitt label) a lot too...

aubrey hoermann-002 (odic force)
just got this on promo, im not sure if its seen a proper release or not yet
but after a listen and playing with it, i like it...its deep spacey acid
house...the kind you dont hear much anymore with acid used as an actual
bassline and not as a noisy distraction from the grooves...this is deep
stuff and it isnt for everyone, but with low lights and a small room and
some creativity this may do the trick for you...aubreys a little more
visible than the other guys listed but hes kicking it indie style with
apparently his own label direct from detroit...

moving to some larger labels and names...

dj valium-deep frozen technology (intl. deejay gigolos)
more weirdness from dj hells label, but this is deep chilled techno with an
edge...the broken beats stand out within a seemingly endless arctic
wasteland of sound...it works and the textures are excellent...the press is
a little crunchy which ruins it a tad, but maybe i just have shitty needles
and need to buy new ones...maybe this is where i should beg for bookings so
i can afford them huh???

diskordia-mala mazza (tresor)
this is kind of weird...someone is trying to innovate in techno...lots of
textures and sounds...ill have a hard time describing them so i wont...it is
nice production though and theres lots of different sounds and
grooves...well worth a check if you are into trying something new once in a
while...

esbo electric-neighborhood (hotshot)
this is a new one from leo laker, probably more well known for his tracks on
tresor...this is nice banging techno with muted acid lines and deftly
programmed drums...if you dig the thomas heckmann/oliver leib stuff
recently, i think you will like this too...

rok-key external (muller)
this is a damn fine tech-house ep...theres a few disco overtones for the
househeads, but clean production, melodies and effects abound for the techno
lovers...i cant say too much more aside from if you see it buy it...prime
time main room stuff with banging beats and charisma...

V/A-versatile virus 2 (fieber)
a nice double pack from one of my favorite labels...they were off the mark
for the past couple eps in my eyes...its nice to see them back where i like
them...techno with a twist on current themes...standout tracks are from
leandro gamez with his take on the ben sims/killabyte sound, the mhonolink
track is excellent (esp. considering hes done nothing for me lately) and a
nice chris mccormack track -ascended which is a whole side of smooth
tech-house on the spacey driving tip that keeps you engaged the whole
time...

last but not least is adam beyer
adam beyer-conform 12
ive been picking on him forever, but finally, ive seen something to talk
about...these tracks dont stray too far from his other stuff, but theres
just enough juice to keep me interested and enthusiastic...this is chock
full of his trademark banging beats but theres movement in the basslines
that exhibit a seemingly new found appreciation for the groove propulsion of
a good record...theres beats and grooves (and clarity to everything) all
over rather than just effects and beats with basslines buried in the wash of
effects that has undermined my appreciation of mr beyer in the past couple
years...this is worth checking out...hopefully this is an indicator of
things to come from beyer (and sweden)

dj oracle aka daniel j. britt
940-b morris court cincinnati, ohio 45206
techno/electro dj bookings: djoracle@visto.com
fon: (513) 861-6760
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here is a clue for the intellectually humorous inept:

the beatles don't play live out anymore (it doesn't
help when a member of yur band is dead)

i don't really like austin powers or the spice girls!

fergie was never hit in the head with a can of arizona
iced tea when he had a bad trip @ a party & was blaring
sumpin about the aliens comin...

this my overly intoxicated friends is called sarcasm aka 
a joke aka comedy...

hoy ve, when will y'all catch up...

In a message dated 2/18/0 3:31:36 PM, you wrote:

<<He's right, it is in Lake Havasu, they disasembled it,
and reconstructed it their.

--- Fergus <fergcore@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> ><<The London Bridge isn't in London you ass...it's
> in Lake Havasu, Arizona.>>>>


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>fergie was never hit in the head with a can of arizona
>iced tea when he had a bad trip @ a party & was blaring
>sumpin about the aliens comin...


SHE you fucknut!! SHE!!! ;p

fergus :P


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fo rilly...i like to spread the love, what can i say...

r u kiddin, my shit is tweaked perfectly imperfectly...

In a message dated 2/18/0 3:52:23 PM, you wrote:

<<ferreal...you're not being a very good mascot, steviet.
you have 30 seconds to get your shit together

doris wrote:

> > um, what does this have to do with the sunscreen that
> > michael uses to create the farmer's tan "hamsters rule!"
> > tattoo on his beer belly?>>


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In a message dated 2/18/0 4:13:17 PM, you wrote:

<<> i think a candy ravah girlee asked jon gotti if she
> could see his liquid...so he peed on her.


how did you know that??>>

haven't u figured it out by now?...

...i'm omnipresent.


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>haven't u figured it out by now?...
>
>...i'm omnipresent.


more like telePATHETIC

;p


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In a message dated 2/19/0 2:19:34 AM, you wrote:

<<>fergie was never hit in the head with a can of arizona
>iced tea when he had a bad trip @ a party & was blaring
>sumpin about the aliens comin...


SHE you fucknut!! SHE!!! ;p

fergus :P>>

i ain't callin you a she 'til u send pics of yur boobies, newbie!




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>i ain't callin you a she 'til u send pics of yur boobies, newbie!

I've been on this list longer than you baby.  And I haven't seen a pic of
yer dick yet...then again...that's probably because I have more balls than
you.  Wouldn't want to make you look any worse than you already do.

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har har ;p

What's a rave?



>Why Star Wars and a rave wouldn't mix:
>
>1. Jedi would probably decide to use their light sabers as lighsticks. It 
>would be only a matter of time before they inadvertently cut somebody's arm 
>off while dancing.
>
>2. Chewbacca would probably snap and go on a rampage when one raver too many 
>decided to give him a hug.
>
>3.  It would just be too freaky seeing yoda waddling around going 
>"mmm...rolling hard I am."
>
>4.  Jedi would would use their mind control powers to score free drugs and 
>water.
>
>5.  Storm troopers would be way too intense as security guards. If they 
>caught someone dealing or trying to sneak in they would just disintegrate 
>them.
>
>7.  The Emperor would walk around going " This party is proceeding exactly 
>as I have foreseen." And then he would laugh evilly to himself for a few 
>minutes.
>
>8.  All the lint on Darth Vaders cape would show up way to well underneath 
>the black lights.
>
>9.  Whenever a DJ would start to train wreck Obi Wan's voice would come in 
>to their headsets and say " train wrecking leads to the darkside, the force 
>will be with you."
>
>10.  Somebody would steal R2-D2 to put in their room or apartment.
>______________________________________________________



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iowa hunnies please watch out.  chad is on the prowl.


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At 12:02 AM 2/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>iowa hunnies please watch out.  chad is on the prowl.

also, any guys in gymnastics, chad would love it if you hit on him.

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:
> >iowa hunnies please watch out.  chad is on the prowl.
> also, any guys in gymnastics, chad would love it if you hit on him.

As long as you're clean shaven.

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what list?

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if anybody is bored in Mpls, we're having a houseparty tonight.

3846 Granada Way North
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My nerdy roommates even put up a website for directions, since nobody
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Thank you, that's all.

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i have your goods.  i just need to email them to you.  please hit me back so 
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> iowa hunnies please watch out.  chad is on the prowl.

   Iowa Hunnie here ---and I'm watching out Doris!

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>From: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
>To: sluck@frontiernet.net, adameadows@hotmail.com, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] what I want to know is...
>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:50:52 EST
>I think its humorous when a girl who knows to put plastic stars in her hat
>doesnt know the difference between jungle and house.  Its alright if you 
>are
>new to the music and scene like we all were once.  But why so quick with
>fashion and slow with the music?  So I will tease her and say, "You know, I
>really have no idea what the difference is either!  Electronic music sounds
>all the same to me."  Is that so wrong!


It's not what I would go as far to call wrong but if ms.star hat was 
actually asking a basic easy-to-answer question, would it have been a big 
deal to just explain to her the basic difference between the two?  It's not 
like a really tough question.I mean, when I started to get into techno music 
and parties, I asked a lot of questions too. My boyfriend, friends and 
people I met would  not get mad at me for my ignorance, I just didn't know 
because I was new then. When they answered my question I gained knowlege, 
which led to more questions and experience also helped too. Anyway, i don't 
think you are a dick for putting off what's her fuck, but it wouldv'e been 
really cool if you would have helped her out instead of dismissing her 
because of her clothes. That just seems kinda shallow. Think about it she 
COULD have walked away a little more informed, but she did not.

>I chuckle when I see a 16 year old kid wearing a shirt that says "PIMP" on
>it is sucking on a pacifer.  Surely you can see the humor in that!

Ok you got me. I try not to judge people by thier appearance, but that 
"PIMP" clothing,keychain,stickeretc. line is way stupid. I'm really not a 
big pacifier fan either, but they don't bother me as much as the dorky 
PIMP-wear. Love, Biba



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remembering you have missle 25.

then listening to it.

chad

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>>>may 13th vibalicious 2 hits the st louis area. taking place in a 4000 
>>>person
capacity venue with plenty of free parking and air conditioning!>>>

This is definatley gonna kick the first Vibalicious' ass venue-wise. It's 
probably gonna be in the armory I'm guessing. Hmmm, Vibealicious 1 ~ aloha 
skate rink  (good party but....a roller rink.  Vibealicious 2 ~ the armory; 
which would kick ASS; one of the best parties I have ever been to was there 
and I haven't heard of any there for QUITE some time. Halleighleiah! I'm 
venue-happy; this roller rink trend is starting to piss me off.  (savin my 
nickels now) Biba
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Atomly is gayer than a 6-headed llama. No need to thank me.


>I was hoping for an:
>
>atomly your gay
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 19 12:09:15 2000
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i just got a great idea for a book....

any ideas on how i'd go about getting it published?

i'm dead serious.

chad

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On 02/19/2000 6:09 AM the falls chevy savings guy prophesized the following:

> i just got a great idea for a book....
> 
> any ideas on how i'd go about getting it published?
> 
> i'm dead serious.


write the manucript and forward it to as many publishers as you
can...hopefully it piques some publishers interest


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I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 19 15:49:19 2000
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Biba Gypsychilde wrote:
> Atomly is gayer than a 6-headed llama. No need to thank me.

But am I more gay or less gay then Marvin Gaye's gay son Gaylord Gaye?

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>Right now I'm being asked to join
>Virgin records, this will be my biggest contract yet, So for those of you who
>have faith in me, keep your fingers crossed my Sisters and Brothers. Their
>offering me $0,000,000 So I'm just waiting for the final word.

!  you should hold out for more loot!!  ;)



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Ok, here's a little update for ya...we worked on the space last night, and
I'm just getting ready to head over there today...things are coming together
and looking good!  I'm excited.

A little update for you....there are a LIMITED number of tickets left that
will be sold at the door.  Tickets go on sale at 7.30pm and the event starts
at 8pm.  They expect the line to start to form well before that though, so
if you still don't have a ticket, be warned....get there early.

As many of you probably know, we got quite a bit of snow here the past
couple of days.  However, there is no snow in the forecast for the next
couple days.  The winter storm warning is over here, and I just checked the
road conditions.....all roads in Iowa are normal winter driving except for
I80 between about DesMoines and Davenport, which are partly to mostly
(whatever that means) snow and ice covered.  The plows have been out in
numbers though, so hopefully things will be back to normal soon.  For roads
in your area you'll have to do some checking yourselves.  I would suggest
allowing some extra travel time though, as I would hope I wouldn't have to
tell you (no party is worth dying for!).  Be safe, take care, and I'll see
you guys there!

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>> i just got a great idea for a book....
>> any ideas on how i'd go about getting it published?
>> i'm dead serious.
>
>write the manucript and forward it to as many publishers as you
>can...hopefully it piques some publishers interest
>

Failing that I'm sure you could find a "vanity publishing place" which
basically will publish anything you want as long as you pay the production
costs.... but really if your going to do that just go to kinkos'  and do it
yourself.  If you dont want anything to fancy it really would not be that
difficult.  Or if you really wanted to be cheap...  You could use this
fancy new technology I've been hearing so much about... its Call the World
Wide Web.  You could 'publish' your book electronically and save a bunch of
trees (be a techno hippy and you'll be listengin to goa in no time :P).


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my friend, DJ Legal Alien, and myself are in search of promoters(rave or
club) looking to book up-and-coming drum n bass djs.  we spin similar
styles of drum n bass-funky, hardjazz, jazzstep, afrofunk, atmospheric,
etc...Legal Alien tends to spin tracks with a slightly harder/jump up
edge, while i keep it a little on the smoother side.  basically, i wont
spin it unless it has the funk to move your butt!  :)

Legal Alien lives in Detroit, and i live in Richmond, Indiana.  we can
both provide our own transportation, within reason.  and we are even
available for tagteam sets, such as the one we will be doing on 3/24/00
at I Survived;Y2K in Detroit.

for more info, including real audio, you can check our web pages:  Legal
Alien:  http://go.to/djLegalAlien  and DJ Sterling:
http://www.angelfire.com/oh/tonology/sterling.html 

if interested, please reply privately with your address and we will get
you a tape and/or cd as soon as possible.

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Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid trendy clothes with
flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why is
this?  Just giving another observation...

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what they said, though i think if you just wrote the first chapter or so that would be enough to
send around to publishers.. at least i think that this is a common practice..

y'know chances are all this has already occured to you. i don't know what the hell i'm talking
about in the first place. good luck, though.

:]


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Well..I'm only speaking for myself here.  I have never smelled like armpi=
ts. =

And if someone happens to smell a little "ripe" maybe it's because they'v=
e
been dancing their ass off all night and you just happen to come up to th=
em
when their right guard made a left or their secret told on them.  Me
personally, I prepare before I go to a party and if I sweat and smell kin=
da
sweaty...so what.  It's not like I'm hookin' up at a party anyways....


Respect yo self :P

Fuego!




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flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why i=
s
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mmmm i love the smell of stale ravers in the mornings.
 gotta love those "rave boogers" too.  seriously, i
keep myself clean, but if i'm out partyin all night i
don't expect to be fresh as a daisy by 5 am....who the
hell is, and if they are, they haven't been havin
FUN!!!
as far as "trendy" goes, i just wear what i can
get....i don't spend $100's on jncos and
shit....thrift shop baby, i'm poor.

--- Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
> Well..I'm only speaking for myself here.  I have
> never smelled like armpits. 
> And if someone happens to smell a little "ripe"
> maybe it's because they've
> been dancing their ass off all night and you just
> happen to come up to them
> when their right guard made a left or their secret
> told on them.  Me
> personally, I prepare before I go to a party and if
> I sweat and smell kinda
> sweaty...so what.  It's not like I'm hookin' up at a
> party anyways....
> 
> 
> Respect yo self :P
> 
> Fuego!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Advanced Health and Nutrition" <juno@ccp.com>
> wrote:
> Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid
> trendy clothes with
> flashing lights, and smell like a cross between
> candy and armpits?  Why is
> this?  Just giving another observation...
> 
> -Loco Grande PeePee
> 
> 
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ok so who else noticed that superstars of love are
getting too commercial with advertising parties on the radio?!?
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werd yo!  Thrift shop all the way.  Why buy Tommy Hil..and all those othe=
r
lables just to get them all fucked up and smelly. And right if your not
walking out of the party at the end of the night with a "sweaty ass" you =
must
have been standing against  a wall or something all night...



Fuego :)
Respect yo self




jonathon givens <rollin_ecstacy@yahoo.com> wrote:
mmmm i love the smell of stale ravers in the mornings.
 gotta love those "rave boogers" too.  seriously, i
keep myself clean, but if i'm out partyin all night i
don't expect to be fresh as a daisy by 5 am....who the
hell is, and if they are, they haven't been havin
FUN!!!
as far as "trendy" goes, i just wear what i can
get....i don't spend $100's on jncos and
shit....thrift shop baby, i'm poor.

--- Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
> Well..I'm only speaking for myself here.  I have
> never smelled like armpits. =

> And if someone happens to smell a little "ripe"
> maybe it's because they've
> been dancing their ass off all night and you just
> happen to come up to them
> when their right guard made a left or their secret
> told on them.  Me
> personally, I prepare before I go to a party and if
> I sweat and smell kinda
> sweaty...so what.  It's not like I'm hookin' up at a
> party anyways....
> =

> =

> Respect yo self :P
> =

> Fuego!
> =

> =

> =

> =

> "Advanced Health and Nutrition" <juno@ccp.com>
> wrote:
> Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid
> trendy clothes with
> flashing lights, and smell like a cross between
> candy and armpits?  Why is
> this?  Just giving another observation...
> =

> -Loco Grande PeePee
> =

> =

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> 
> 
> > Jon Gotti your gay
> 
> and, you point being??

jon is gay.  just like that damn misha.  no wonder you
guys get along so well.....  i think jon proves it in
that damn coffeehouse.  =D  keep our music spinnin
baby and keep starco's kickin!!  laz sez hi
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hey! anyone comin to kenosha tonight fer the party???

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Congradulations to Sherry Porter from Kentucky, Kevin Minor from New York, 
And James Render from Chicago. They came the closest to getting all of my 
records. Sherry/39. kevin/46. James/51. for thier love and following, I'm 
giving them all the 1,000 and paying thier way into the next ten Chicago 
parties. If you know any of them, you should congradulate them. They deserve 
it. I'm going to do something else next week for you all but, I need to plan 
it first. Peace & Love.....Paul J.

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alright. i know that it is customary to review an event a day or maybe even 
a week after the fact. but, i failed at being customary. so, here's my long 
overdue review of state:awake (feb.4th).
i'll do this the most sensicle way i can.

sights.
well, i'd never been to this before and was suprised at the space. for some 
reason i pictured a big gymansium or something of the sort.
this was a very neat and homey setting. kinda reminded me of a big 
coffeehouse or something. the cow decor made me feel at home:)
the visuals were subtle and very nice. (a neat disco ball and a big screen 
tv in the background). very neat.

taste.
mmm. all i have to say is that the punch was deliscious.

touch.
i wasnt rolling hard, per se. so, i wasnt getting any kinds of backrubs. ah, 
well.

smell.
all right. this is my only gripe. the crowd was very weird and odd, too. 
but, these kids smelled really bad. even before they started doing their 
weird jump around and whip your glowsticks to and fro dance. i think instead 
of handing out blowpops, i'm gonna hand out deodorant. me and the toothbrush 
kid at the net party can be the hygeine ravers.

sound.
i could not have requested a better lineup. my favorite djs under one roof 
making beautiful music.=) i wish i could have heard carlos suffront go solo 
as i have never heard the guy spin before. i enjoyed the exstensive tagteam 
sets. next time maybe we can have more than 4 turntables, doris? chad and 
derek... i love you guys.
oh yeah. one teeny thing. the sound was not bad. but, it could have been 
better, i think.

overall, it rocked. the "promoters" super hospitable. and my stay in ann 
arbor was ideal. state:awake was definitly a good way to kick it off. thanks 
to everyone involved, even the smelly kids.


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i'm from Chicago originally, but in Columbus now, and some people i know 
here went to their first Chicago party not too long ago... they came back 
and one of the first things they said about chicago was "THEY ALL SMELLED 
BAD!!!" Personally, i've never known of a rave smelling GOOD... maybe its a 
regional thing.

-marauder


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>Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid trendy clothes with
>flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why is
>this?  Just giving another observation...
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mmm. maybe it's just Dolton they were at..... heh. That place is known to get 
damn narsty.


purrrrrrr
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<< i'm from Chicago originally, but in Columbus now, and some people i know 
 here went to their first Chicago party not too long ago... they came back 
 and one of the first things they said about chicago was "THEY ALL SMELLED 
 BAD!!!" Personally, i've never known of a rave smelling GOOD... maybe its a 
 regional thing.
 
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In a message dated 2/19/00 11:29:09 AM Central Standard Time, juno@ccp.com 
writes:

<< Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid trendy clothes with
 flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why is
 this?  Just giving another observation... >>


Oh no, it's not just you...
At 6 am I was still wide awake and volunteered to help clean up after 
Frostbite.   I Found all kinds of cool stuff.  Also found lots of stuff that 
make you say "What do people do with this???"  My rubber gloves smelled like 
poop and armpits.  (Not that I smelled them or anything...) I can't say I was 
smellin' fresh as a daisy, I was cleaning the rave-boogers off my nose ring 
for a good 15 minutes this morning and literally had to peel off my t-shirt 
and pants of phatness.  

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oh yah! Dolton Expo center is foul..i forgot all about that place...

werd..



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I smell like candy cuz I usually wear 6 candy necklaces: 2 on my neck, 2 on 
each arm. I don't usually smell like armpits but when I'm at a rave I'm not 
usually tryin to mac on a chick, I'm just dancing my ass off. If I do happen 
to hook up with some girl then she's usually kinda sweaty too. I mean, I 
still use deodorant but Right Guard only goes so far, y'know? And as far as 
trendy, lemme see...(looking at labels on clothes)...Quant Hombre, Club YMLA, 
D'amonte, Positano, Caffiene(slightly trendy), I don't really dress trendy at 
all.

<< Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid trendy clothes with
 flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why is
 this?  Just giving another observation.. >>

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Damn, if there was a "commercial" radio station that played nothing but the 
dance music I listen to, and talked about parties, I think it would be a 
radio station actually worth listening to.  I understand the whole thing 
about "keeping it underground", but that only works to an extent.  I don't 
think guys like Christopher Lawrence, or whoever all you peeps fav DJ or 
whatever is, is going to go commercial anytime soon.  If they do, hey, why 
not?  Richie Hawtin is still underground, despite having a video on MTV.  
(Which, might I add, is on only once during the week, maybe, at one hour of 
the night, sunday, and even then AMP isn't always on.  Some other show has 
been taking it's place lately.)

If we go commercial, maybe we can take this world over.

If not, other dance music masters like Ricky Martin and the Backstreet Boys 
will continue to reign.

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In a message dated 2/19/00 6:14:24 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
SunoftheWu@aol.com writes:

> If we go commercial, maybe we can take this world over.
>  
>  If not, other dance music masters like Ricky Martin and the Backstreet 
Boys 
>  will continue to reign.

yea, there's an idea...  lets shove our music down the mainstream's throats 
just because we think its COOL and will SELL and is BETTER than the other 
shit...

that's called CONSUMERISM... and that's what makes top40 shit sound like ass.
do you want to FORCE FEED good music to people that will devour anything you 
tell them is a "HIT" ? hell no... if they wanna hear good music - they can 
look for it themselves, like we do.

besides, i like the weather on the bottom.   sure, theres alot of shitty 
music up on top, but that's why god put tape decks in our cars.

keep that shit underground
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To me a raver is someone who goes to raves,if anyone tells you different 
they are a raver.



Personally,I Ussually Smell like new car scent,cause right before I go into 
a rave...I ussually stop and 'smack a ho' and get some of those nifty little 
car fresheners and rub them all over myself..all over..and then put them 
inside my shoes.

As far as Fashion...I wear Pants(sorta trendy)...and a 
shirt(over-rated)....and sometimes a hooded sweatshirt when its colder(these 
are the best kept secret in the fashion industry)


I try to go more for the Tom Cruise or Kelly Mcgillis look,Cause no one else 
sports the Top Gun look in the midwest...I'm bringing something new,with the 
Top gun look.

Winn. Dj Nujack


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>
>I smell like candy cuz I usually wear 6 candy necklaces: 2 on my neck, 2 on
>each arm. I don't usually smell like armpits but when I'm at a rave I'm not
>usually tryin to mac on a chick, I'm just dancing my ass off. If I do 
>happen
>to hook up with some girl then she's usually kinda sweaty too. I mean, I
>still use deodorant but Right Guard only goes so far, y'know? And as far as
>trendy, lemme see...(looking at labels on clothes)...Quant Hombre, Club 
>YMLA,
>D'amonte, Positano, Caffiene(slightly trendy), I don't really dress trendy 
>at
>all.
>
><< Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid trendy clothes with
>  flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why 
>is
>  this?  Just giving another observation.. >>
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I don't think that if you announce that Frankie Bones is gonna spin some 
records over the airwaves, that a ton of top 40 lovers are gonna head on over 
and rave it up.  

And no, I don't want to force feed good music.

But I would like to feed good music.

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if ya want Richie Hawtin to take the place of Ricki Martin... you are going 
to HAVE to force feed music.   that is what commercialism/consumerism is all 
about.

i prefer the ani difranco method.

-a


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> I don't think that if you announce that Frankie Bones is gonna spin some 
>  records over the airwaves, that a ton of top 40 lovers are gonna head on 
> over 
>  and rave it up.  
>  
>  And no, I don't want to force feed good music.
>  
>  But I would like to feed good music.
>  
>  D.A.R.Y.L.

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And besides, I don't think that it will sell, and never claimed that it 
would.  I also never claimed that my music was "better" then anybody elses.  
But if it did sell, major players in the music industry would have already 
picked it up and exploited it.  But they haven't, because it doesn't sell.  

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t's not that I have to have Hawtin be number 1.  That's fine that Ricky 
Martin is number one, and tons of people are paying money to see him and 
listen to his one song, that's great.  But advertising on the radio about a 
rave isn't going to commercialize anything.  If I was throwing a party, I'd 
stick flyers and advertise everywhere, and if an individual saw it and was 
like,"wow, that looks (or sounds) really interesting, I'd like to check it 
out", then maybe I'd have reached another top 40 person and pulled them down 
to the underground......and there's nothing wrong with that.  

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 woohoo...ani rules =)

 figure my stayin at home while you're all in iowa has earned me the right
to
 post a one liner.

 bekka.

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> >
> > if ya want Richie Hawtin to take the place of Ricki Martin... you are
> going
> > to HAVE to force feed music.   that is what commercialism/consumerism is
> all
> > about.
> >
> > i prefer the ani difranco method.
> >
> > -a
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/19/00 7:28:44 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
> > SunoftheWu@aol.com writes:
> >
> > > I don't think that if you announce that Frankie Bones is gonna spin
some
> > >  records over the airwaves, that a ton of top 40 lovers are gonna head
> on
> > > over
> > >  and rave it up.
> > >
> > >  And no, I don't want to force feed good music.
> > >
> > >  But I would like to feed good music.
> > >
> > >  D.A.R.Y.L.
> >
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 01:39:32 2000
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Was the shit.

Who was spinning the old school in the second room anywhere between 1am and 
4am? I need a watch.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 02:36:05 2000
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well, if you don't have previous published material it will be pretty hard 
to get funding prior to writing the book (which will be a possibility if 
your book is successful and you intend to write other books in the future). 
The best thing to do is write some of it, not necessarily all of it per se, 
but then send drafts off to various publishers. If you know any English 
professors (don't know if you're in school or not) or other published 
writers it would make your life easier if they could refer you...

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> Who was spinning the old school in the second room anywhere between 1am
and
> 4am? I need a watch.

That was me and Ryan O'Keefe (arjay khetamine) doing a DJ set/Live PA as
"Hovereproject". If you liked that stuff, we're hopefully doing a tape here
soon, but if you want any more details let me know :)

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In a message dated 2/18/00 6:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
fergcore@earthlink.net writes:

<< I've been on this list longer than you baby.  And I haven't seen a pic of
 yer dick yet...then again...that's probably because I have more balls than
 you.  Wouldn't want to make you look any worse than you already do.
 
 fergus >>

huh? i first got on the list in '93...eeeew, a chick with nuts!
...stay away from me!...you can keep yur boobie pics!

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>Damn, if there was a "commercial" radio station that played nothing but the
>dance music I listen to, and talked about parties, I think it would be a
>radio station actually worth listening to.

you ought to go to Europe...it's unreal how widely accepted techno music is 
there. They play techno everywhere....on the radio (multiple stations too), 
in grocery stores, you name it. I was in a bank in London and honest to god 
I heard one of my favorite house tracks playing over the intercom of this 
super-snooty bank. It was wild.

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> > > if ya want Richie Hawtin to take the place of Ricki Martin...

everyone's dissing Ricky, but I tell you what, if you mute his videos they 
are some of the most entertaining things on television. I have yet to see a 
man look so good in leather pants....well, maybe Mike Ness, but I 
digress.......

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my bare ass was all over the aol candy-lists for a while... am i cool???


>From: Steviet069@aol.com
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>In a message dated 2/18/00 6:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>fergcore@earthlink.net writes:
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><< I've been on this list longer than you baby.  And I haven't seen a pic 
>of
>  yer dick yet...then again...that's probably because I have more balls 
>than
>  you.  Wouldn't want to make you look any worse than you already do.
>
>  fergus >>
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>huh? i first got on the list in '93...eeeew, a chick with nuts!
>...stay away from me!...you can keep yur boobie pics!
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In a message dated 2/19/00 7:22:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
riotnerd28@hotmail.com writes:

<< my bare ass was all over the aol candy-lists for a while... am i cool??? >>

um...no.

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>...eeeew, a chick with nuts!


So you *DO* admit that I'm a girl.

That's what I thought.

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i got called 'sir' twice today  :(




On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Fergus wrote:

> >...eeeew, a chick with nuts!
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> 
> So you *DO* admit that I'm a girl.
> 
> That's what I thought.
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> fergus ;p
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> But advertising on the radio about a 
> rave isn't going to commercialize anything.  If I was throwing a party, I'd 
> stick flyers and advertise everywhere, and if an individual saw it and was 
> like,"wow, that looks (or sounds) really interesting, I'd like to check it 
> out", then maybe I'd have reached another top 40 person and pulled them down 
> to the underground......and there's nothing wrong with that.  


uh, right, until some mallrat picks up a flyer at mr. rag's, or better
yet, gets handed one in high school (it's happened), and goes "hey, i
heard on channel 7 that you can score lots of ecstasy and ass at those
raves, i think i'll check this out."

i'm all about the music being played on the radio or on tv, being from
europe i'm used to hearing "sweet like chocolate" at the bookstore or
having paul van dyk play in the background during a tv commercial for the
lottery.  but i do *not* think advertising parties through those media is
the way to go.  if someone hears the music on the radio and likes it and
figures out that it's played at raves and goes to one for that reason,
fine, cool, glad to have ya.  but considering the media attention
raves have been getting, and the false stereotypes imposed on all that
attend them, and the assumptions made about what goes on at them (which,
sadly enough, are becoming more and more true), that top40 kid who
hears about the mega super underground electronica rave party event on the
radio will be sure to act on his/her "knowledge" about raves and take
his/her friends there to try that "X" stuff and complain about that
annoying techno shit in the background while they're trying to roll face.
and why not?!  for all they know, that's all that goes on at parties.  the
way the media have made it look, raves are just a suitable place for
deviant badasses to go and melt into puddles in the corner during the wee 
hours of the morning, so someone that heard an ad on the top40 station
will have nothing but this information to go on and act accordingly.

so, my point is that until the popular image of a 'rave' changes, i don't
think it's a good idea to present the masses w/ advertisement for it.
playing the music for the public though?  *shrug*  sure, why not.



ps:  your name wouldn't be carl bychance, would it?  =)




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you got called sir???? I find that hard to believe.... except for guys under 
6 foot tall....

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> oh yeah. one teeny thing. the sound was not bad. but, it could have been 
> better, i think.

i wholeheartedly agree.  however, we're stuck with the jenky-assed
university sound system.  we spent money to rent a decent system once, but
every time we turned it more than 1/3 of the way up, the ppl upstairs
started complaining (we're not the only ones holding events at the league
on friday nights, and i think there's a hotel upstairs too...).  so since
we have to keep things at relatively low volumes anyway, the system that
the university provides us with will do.  sorry if you were able to have a
conversation within 10 feet of a speaker, i know it's *so* not in the
spirit of rave, but it's out of our hands :(  

while we're on the subject though, allow me to shamelessly promote the
next installment of state:awake (vol. 7), happening on march 10th.

>>>> STATE:AWAKE VOL. 7, MARCH 10 <<<<

flyers and e-flyers with the superstar lineup should be out by the end of
the week.  you may jump with joy now, and quiver with anticipation.

we'll also try, at some point, to bring back derek and carlos and maybe a
few more of their rockstar friends to make up for subjecting them to such
a bunk turnout last time and to give YOU, the party-goer, a chance to see
them on a night where there aren't a bazillion other parties to choose
from.  even though you should have chosen state:awake last time already.
but you didn't.  did you.  you bastard. 



this cold medicine is making me delirious.
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Question:
If you are dancing all night in a hot,, busy venue just how the the hell are
you supposed to ultra-squeeky clean anyway? I sweat my balls off just
spinning records let alone raving!!
Who cares if you get dirty anyway - as long as people are having a good time
:)
Just my 2cents (to coin a stateside phrase!)
Brisk.

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> In a message dated 2/19/00 11:29:09 AM Central Standard Time, juno@ccp.com
> writes:
>
> << Is it just me, or are all ravers dirty, wear stupid trendy clothes with
>  flashing lights, and smell like a cross between candy and armpits?  Why
is
>  this?  Just giving another observation... >>
>
>
> Oh no, it's not just you...
> At 6 am I was still wide awake and volunteered to help clean up after
> Frostbite.   I Found all kinds of cool stuff.  Also found lots of stuff
that
> make you say "What do people do with this???"  My rubber gloves smelled
like
> poop and armpits.  (Not that I smelled them or anything...) I can't say I
was
> smellin' fresh as a daisy, I was cleaning the rave-boogers off my nose
ring
> for a good 15 minutes this morning and literally had to peel off my
t-shirt
> and pants of phatness.
>
> Jen Sixtybus
>
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But the thing is, mallrats and kids are gonna find out about these parties no 
matter what.  If they have any desire to try X, or whatever, they're gonna 
find out.  Annoying techno or not.  They're gonna eat X, and find their way 
to a rave, through the people they meet.  The scene is already being filled 
with those that just go to curl up in a corner, etc.  

But you do bring up an interesting point, about the popular image of a rave.  
How should we change the popular image?  Or should we even try?  I mean, if 
we try to explain to everybody that it's not all about drugs, then there's 
the threat of the scene surfacing into somewhat of a mainstream.  (Although I 
think it's kinda there in a way)

Or, we can try to hide it from the media, etc., let them think what they want 
to think, about how everybody at a rave is on drugs, and that's what it's all 
there for....drugs.  Then you have parents telling kids that they can't go, 
because that's the parents' image of a rave, and then the kids go and do 
drugs.  Cause that's how kids are.

I think if we try to educate the masses, as opposed to hiding the truth from 
them, then things may be better.  But maybe not, who knows.  I'm a pessimist 
in this sense.....I don't think the media will ever understand, but I don't 
know if that means that we shouldn't try.

And actually, my name is........

D.A.R.Y.L.

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Nothing like working a They Might Be Giants reference
in, eh?

I tried to do the same with Primus' "Kalamazoo", but I
don't think anyone understood...

--Will

=====
#include <stdio.h>
#include <techno_revolution.h>
int main()
{
  rock_is_dead();
  return 0;
}
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I'm all about electronica on the radio.  Luckily, here
in Milwaukee we have 91.7 WMSE which plays all kinds
of electronic music at various times of the day.

Also, I think you have your head in the sand if you
think that electro isn't already becoming a part of
pop culture...hell, when is that last time you've
heard a car commercial without some breakbeats in the
background.  Everyone I know (and almost everyone I
meet) listens to techno, or at least knows of it's
existance.

I think everyone needs to wake up and see that WE'RE
NOT UNDERGROUND.  Just because there's not a whole lot
of corporate sponsership doesn't mean that we're off
the mainstream radar screen.

And corporate sponsership isn't all that bad anyhow. 
Like someone said in a previous post, in Europe
electro is king.  All the major labels there have
electro artists signed and we here in the USofA eat up
their music.

So next time you listen that brand new rave anthem
rekkid from Europe, just remember that the big bad
multimillion dollar labels in Britain, France,
Germany, etc. brought it to your ass.

--Will

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My first Minneapolis party in months.  It was great!  Allied Substructure is 
the one group of promoters that has yet to let me down.

Around midnight Christopher Lawrence took to the decks and kicked my ass.  I 
danced straight through the hour and a half he had.  When he first started I 
was towards the back and said  "I've been waiting to see him play for over 2 
months now, and I don't even get a speaker??"  Then Joe (raver 1420) took my 
hand, pushed people out of the way (plur!) and said "This speaker is yours 
girl!"   During his set, as I was dancing, some random kid who was dancing 
next to me asks "Hey!  Are you rolling?!"  I chose not to answer him, and he 
started rubbing the back of my neck for a minute or two.  Being the sweet and 
polite raver child that I am, I returned the favor for like 30 seconds.  
After which, he took the liberty of getting behind me and groping me up my 
backside, then up my front.  That was NOT cool.  So I  removed myself from 
the speaker and found my own little corner to groove in.
Other sets I really enjoyed were Hoverproject (DJ Scam, Arjay Khetamine and 
MC ADB), Madkid, and Tilzs and Freakboy did a 3 table/2 mixer acid trance tag 
team that got the kids jumping, and whoever that was spinning jungle in the 
mainroom.

The space was my favorite in this state, the St. Paul East Armory.  They had 
it decorated very differently, and I wasn't sure how much I liked it at 
first, but I got used to it, and ended up digging it.  Especially the 
gigantic snowflakes and the 80-billion foot snowman.  The visuals on the 
projector screens were fun.

I stayed to the end and helped clean up.  Lots of shirts, mushrooms and masks 
were found.  My friend Katie found a little blinky light that was from an 
article of clothing, but was still blinking and started crooning the HHC 
track Love of my Life.  Brandon (Scam) and Andre (Madkid) were talking and 
singing about being "extreme."  Funny funny shit.

There was a good vibe.  Friendly kids indeed.  Other than the mysterious 
groper, I enjoyed myself thoroughly.  Props n shit to Allied for making my 
week

Jen Sixtybus
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LOL!!!  This is some funny shit!  Sorry, to laugh at
your misery, but you've got to admit this is
hilarious!
And no, it wasn't me who groped you (unfortunately for
me).

--Will (a big perv)

--- Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
> girl!"   During his set, as I was dancing, some
> random kid who was dancing 
> next to me asks "Hey!  Are you rolling?!"  I chose
> not to answer him, and he 
> started rubbing the back of my neck for a minute or
> two.  Being the sweet and 
> polite raver child that I am, I returned the favor
> for like 30 seconds.  
> After which, he took the liberty of getting behind
> me and groping me up my 
> backside, then up my front.  That was NOT cool.  So

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{
  rock_is_dead();
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 09:30:47 2000
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Okay...so it's not funny...Sorry, Jen

Will

--- William Adams <insanityfr@yahoo.com> wrote:
> LOL!!!  This is some funny shit!  Sorry, to laugh at
> your misery, but you've got to admit this is
> hilarious!
> And no, it wasn't me who groped you (unfortunately
> for
> me).
> 
> --Will (a big perv)
> 
> --- Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
> > girl!"   During his set, as I was dancing, some
> > random kid who was dancing 
> > next to me asks "Hey!  Are you rolling?!"  I chose
> > not to answer him, and he 
> > started rubbing the back of my neck for a minute
> or
> > two.  Being the sweet and 
> > polite raver child that I am, I returned the favor
> > for like 30 seconds.  
> > After which, he took the liberty of getting behind
> > me and groping me up my 
> > backside, then up my front.  That was NOT cool. 
> So
> 
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> #include <techno_revolution.h>
> int main()
> {
>   rock_is_dead();
>   return 0;
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Welp...I just wanted to let y'all know that I FINALLY
saw Deepsky tonight in Louisville. Before I mention
their performance, a couple words about the party:

1. Venue was very good...some convention center about
15 mi south of Louisville.
2. Sound and lights in all 3 rooms were very good.
Massive props to Project 7 for their professionalism
when it comes to setting up sound/lights. Those guys
know their shit.
3. The party had a low turnout (or at least I thought
so). I think that could have been caused by flyering
problem and also the fact that Louisville is not the
best place to party at right now, and maybe some kids
are disappointed or feel like taking a break. Can't
blame 'em. 
4. Flyering sucks when you have to flyer with buncha
rudeasses around ya ... but oh well =)

Now on to Deepsky. I have to say I was VERY looking
forward to hearing their set and I was very very
impressed. I don't think they were 100% live, actually
I am pretty sure they weren't, but their show was
excellent overall. Both guys knew their shit, they got
into it and played an hour of awesome beautiful music.
I wish I could have seen 'em during sunrise at some
huge outdoor festival on a larger sound system. What I
like the most about Deepsky is that they incorporate
live instruments into their sets and sometimes have a
singer with them and such. This time they were doing a
smaller show so they only had a drum set in addition
to their synths.
Anyway..these guys will be blowing up all over very
soon. THey are very talented and deserve the credit
they get. Make sure you check 'em out if you like
trance.

Anyway...enough blabbing for one night, I am off to
bed =)


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When I was living in AZ I got to see Deepsky quite a few times. I'm
defintely not much of a trance fan, but I did enjoy they're stuff.

I'd recommend them too.

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thought I'd throw in my review of frostbite, mainly because it's so rare
that I enjoy a minneapolis party anymore...  I may as well mark such an
unusual event with a post to mw-raves.  :P

the decorations kicked ass...   I've never seen the armory look so
good.  damn.  where does allied substructure keep coming up with these
huge inflatable things?!  and why are they the only people who can put
on a decent party in this whole stupid city?  my only complaint was that
the setup was kind of shitty for sound...  the two walls of speakers on
each end of the huge snowman were echoing off the walls and making
everything sound mushy and distorted, especially along the backside of
the room.

spree kicked my ass, though I probably spent as much time wandering
around trying to find out where the sound was best as I did dancing...
anyway, glad we got there early enough to see him.

I can't say much about e-sassin...  pretty low-key for the first half,
only a little more interesting for the second...  eh...  whatever.

christopher lawrence...  these girls over to the left of me kept
screaming his name, and every time he looked over at them, they'd start
shrieking and freaking out...  probably one of the funniest things I saw
all night...

technical itch and decoder were awesome, though I don't really get into
jungle as much as I used to...  oh well.  still good stuff.  I ended up
wandering off and talking to people though...

alexi delano was probably the best thing I heard all night.  he had me
dancing my ass off, even though I thought I was going to fall over by
that point... my friend was sleeping on the floor, but I woke him up and
then he was dancing too...  good, good stuff.   then we wussed out and
left.  I feel old or something.

I barely made it into the second room, which was too bad, but the other
room was keeping me pretty well occupied...  it was some housey sounding
stuff when I wandered in and bought the best sno-cone of my life...
yum...  sno-cones...

 I met lots of cool people, all night long...  and I kept seeing jen
sixtybus, always halfway across the room...  every time I turned around,
there she was, off in the distance...   anyway, it was weird...   either
the candy presence in mpls has decreased, or they just stayed away from
this party.  (or they all threw themselves directly into the e-tard pile
amassing in the back and by the bathrooms...  do not pass go, do not
dance, go directly to the dirty floor.)   it was really fun watching
people come up to my friend jim, too, to touch his elmer's glue
hairstyle, and overhearing questions like "have you ever had sex with
your hair like that? dude!  did you poke her eyes out?"

did I mention sno-cones?

mmmm....  sno-cones.

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Hold on a second, sport..

Rave anthem from Europe? Right.. And the next time *you* hear that record, realize that it may
very well be a shitty cover version of a track released practically next door, on a label you
never heard of, by an artist you never heard of. Realize that if all seems so commercial maybe you
should "dig a little deeper".

 As for the media.. It's simple, rolling kids are a story. They wouldn't think we were all
crackheads if we didn't all act like crackheads.. Not saying you specifically do, but some people
certainly are.. They don't make this stuff up, you know? They just exaggerate it; once again, for
the sake of a story. They don't understand the music, or why we're there. Drugs, they understand.
Music is not news; Drugs are. A bunch of people dancing and hanging out is not a story. Some
obviously wasted 15 year old girl falling out of her clothes & sucking on a pacifier is (you don't
really find that attractive, do you?). It doesn't matter that for that one kid, there are 100
others there sober. (Well.. maybe not.) Point being that even if there was only *one* fucked-up
kiddie, that is who the cameras are going to find. Trying to provide them with a more positive
image is useless, that's not what they want to see. 

 All we can do is make sure we don't perpetuate these stereotypes. Media attention is nothing new.
For that matter, neither are raves. This rave stuff is a good 15 years old now.. Older than some
of the people going, even.. I've heard people worry about it becoming "too commercial" since I
started going about ten years ago.. Yet, here we are. Which leads me to believe that we will
continue to evolve, and the maintream media will continue to come nosing around every once in a
while when they have a slow newsday.. Don't give them a story, and eventually they'll leave us
alone again.


                   "skateboarding IS a crime, & I like it that way."

                                                    -anonymous sticker

                                                              -t

PS: You may wish to consider how biased the usual report on raving is while watching the *other*
news.. 


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From: "Ignatius J. Reilly" <te_one@yahoo.com>
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No, that isn't funny.

What I think *would* be funny, is if you <Cartman voice> "kicked him squa in the nutz", and then
said:

"Are you rolling?"


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 19:32:19 2000
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> During his set, as I was dancing, some random kid who was dancing 
> next to me asks "Hey!  Are you rolling?!"  I chose not to answer him, and he
> started rubbing the back of my neck for a minute or two.  Being the sweet and
> polite raver child that I am, I returned the favor for like 30 seconds.
> After which, he took the liberty of getting behind me and groping me up my
> backside, then up my front.  That was NOT cool.  So I  removed myself from
> the speaker and found my own little corner to groove in.


Next time, try an elbow to the nose.

I know it's not very "plury" but it
get's the message across and it's likely that
if every girl did this to him that he'd stop
being such an ass.

    Joe

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> Question:
> If you are dancing all night in a hot,, busy venue just how the the hell are
> you supposed to ultra-squeeky clean anyway? I sweat my balls off just
> spinning records let alone raving!!
> Who cares if you get dirty anyway - as long as people are having a good time
> :)


Exactly.

It's always been my theroy that if
you come home from a party clean,
it wasn't a good party.

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"[Joey Beltram] has paved the road of the electronica musical revolution
which is now being championed by the likes of artist like CHEMICAL BROTHERS
and THE ORB."

and no, this isn't from TIME magazine.. =)



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rtsp://209.67.139.253:554/wwmt/packages/raves.rm

just in case you haven't seen iti, sorry if it's already been posted...


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 19:54:41 2000
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hahahaha,Thats ridiculous.

"a rave party",jesus...someone needs to set those people straight!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 19:58:47 2000
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haha
i haven't seen that
gotta watch out for those water bottles
they arent just used for water you know

-gruve

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 20:07:52 2000
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If you know anyone in the crew of Boogie Knights or
Kindred Groove here in St. Louis, or partied at one of
our parites...we have just got up like 50+ pics.  So
all you kiddies enjoy.

www.boogieknights.net

Peace,

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 20:24:18 2000
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BAH...

this page isn't working for me...anyone else?  got the page up.. the pics 
link is just a lil dot at the top.. but.. more importantly will not load.


(sigh)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 20:48:35 2000
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Ok what *are* they used for? Someone help me out..

Thinking of illicit and immoral uses for Evian,

      
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 20:53:43 2000
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Maybe they meant that these people were using water
bottles for anal stimulation? If so, then how come it
never happens at parties that I go to? =( I feel left
out.
That's it. On April 8th we'll have a chill-out/anal
foreplay room.

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--- OLeSkL@aol.com wrote:
> you got called sir???? I find that hard to
> believe.... except for guys under 
> 6 foot tall....
> 
i get called sir a lot and i'm 6'1 with large
breasts...i get quite offended, actually, as they are
usually visible and i do like to think i have a
feminine face.....=p  unperceptive people
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----- Original Message -----
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> Ok what *are* they used for? Someone help me out..
>
> Thinking of illicit and immoral uses for Evian,


i am sure macgiver could use a clothes pin, water bottle, duct tape & some
salt
and make a helicopter or something.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 20 21:14:29 2000
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nah dude, bongs, man, BONGS!!!!!! =p



> i am sure macgiver could use a clothes pin, water
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http://www.sexpenguin.com/pics/turn/turtabalist0051.jpg



how many of you would like to see her play ?

hahahahhahaha
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----- Original Message ----- 
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> http://www.sexpenguin.com/pics/turn/turtabalist0051.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> how many of you would like to see her play ?
> 
> hahahahhahaha
> <3lorie

if i seen her play i would be like umm hey guys i'll be back in 5 mins 
i gotta use the restroom!      


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NEW WALLPAPER!!! YUSHA!


>From: TekkgirIie@aol.com
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>http://www.sexpenguin.com/pics/turn/turtabalist0051.jpg
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>how many of you would like to see her play ?
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>hahahahhahaha
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remember the "x-men"

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>Subject: MUTANT PROBLEM -You May Not Be Safe
>Date: 18 Feb 00 17:10:26 -0500
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>Dear concerned citizen:
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>Many of you are aware that there is a danger living among us. Many of
>you have experienced this danger first hand -- in your neighborhoods, in
>your schools, maybe even within your close circle of friends. This
>danger is easy to overlook because it hides in plain sight.
>
>But make no mistake -- this danger is very real. And it is growing.
>
>Citizens, it is time to take action against the rising MUTANT PROBLEM.
>Please aid us in our nation-wide efforts to preserve the traditions of
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Dunno if I'm qualified to do a review yet, since I've only been on the list 
a few weeks, but I must say that this party ROCKED!!! Richie threw down shit 
that kept my ass movin for 3 1/2 hours (w/ short breaks for water.) Really 
kinda nice goin to a party only an hour and a half away (From Des Moines) 
'stead of the normal 2-4 hours to Omaha, KC or Mpls. Lotsa dealers there 
selling crap to stupid college students at their first rave. This was the 
one thing I was worried about going in... How would U of I students handle a 
real, publicized, SCHOOL SPONSORED??? party? Fortunately, I was very 
pleasantly surprised, either those who didn't know didn't show, or they just 
got absorbed into it and really made it a good time for all. Cops were kinda 
pricks, but they kept things safe, and didn't interfere with the party too 
much. It was really weird groovin at the Memorial Union... Dunno, guess you 
have to be there during a normal time to understand the weirdness. BIG 
THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED PUT THIS ON, AND TO THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA... Night 
of my life (recent memories anyway...)
Cant wait for ALL NIGHT!!!

Til next time,
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>Adam Meadows wrote:
>
> > Maybe though I mean this: "The purpose of my life is to be happy.  What
> > should I do to maximize my happiness."


in the paralinear words of the most bodacious and non-bogus
Bill S. Preston esq. and Ted "Theodore" Logan
"Be Excellent to each other and PARTY ON DUDES(dudettes as well)"

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DiscoDisciples d'Amour 
proudly presents

  M i C R O C O S M 
A little Sum'in Sum'in
        version 1.0

Featuring 

DJ MODA - Trancefussion - SanFran
Having grown up with Christopher Lawrence, Moda
and Chris became a part of the trance legion as 
early as 1991.  Since then, MODA has continued 
to influence the West Coast Trance scene with his
mix CDs, productions, and events!  Tonight, he 
comes to his first appearance in Indianapolis to 
warp perceptions and bend wills!  

OH! DONOVAN (AKA Sean Patrick) - Ireland -
How sweet it is!  Sean Patrick has devest8ed 
dancefloors throughout Great Brittain with his
harder-than-mosttrance sets.  Another first
for Indy, Sean will top the night off correct!

XiAN (The X-Man) - CBS - Cincy
A mixture of house and techno, Xian has been 
DJing for years!  This jock knows jack... and so 
will you!

2 x 4 marathon

BLAIR BROWN / CHOCOLATE (The Freaky AfroNaut)
Playing CONTINUOUSLY on 4 turntables, Chocolate
and Blair "Eclair" Brown will be debutting this techno
assault of the senses!  You won't want to miss this!

K-STEP / danDAVE
Also continuously on 4 turntables, K-Step will be
accentuating danDave'sdark tech-step with his own
step/jump-up!  Plus, add both of these kids' amazing
technical proficiency in tricknology, and you'll have
a jungle eXperience to DIE for!

Also featuring the Log2 Sound System DJs:
ADAM ABSTRAKT  &  DEMENTIA
Adam's hard-house ala BAM BAM, DJ IRENE, and
TONY B!, is making waves throughout Indy, 
Chicago, and Detroit.  March 24th will be another
example of him tearing shit up!  Dementia
played originally for The Indpls Alliance at
NuSkoolScience and set the mood for a killer
night!  Trance of the highest order, Demenia's
set will mesmerize you!  

   M i C R O C O S M 
A Little Sum'in Sum'in
         version 1.0

You'll love this high-vibed party!  Dress up
in Disco Gear (tm) and receive a discount 
at the door.  DiscoGear (tm) includes 
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$10
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Please contact the DiscoHotLine 

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Your guest list (or vendor requests) will be 
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MiCROCOSM (version 2.0) is set for 
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Please contact the DiscoHotLine 

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ALSO, DON"T FORGET!!!!

The PLEASURE DOME is March 18th
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Brought-to-you by Sista Jade Entertainment
and the House of Babylon BROductions of 
Indpls!

Disco Rules!

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>Now on to Deepsky. I have to say I was VERY looking
>forward to hearing their set and I was very very
>impressed. I don't think they were 100% live, actually
>I am pretty sure they weren't, but their show was
>excellent overall. Both guys knew their shit, they got
>into it and played an hour of awesome beautiful music.
>I wish I could have seen 'em during sunrise at some
>huge outdoor festival on a larger sound system. What I
>like the most about Deepsky is that they incorporate
>live instruments into their sets and sometimes have a
>singer with them and such. This time they were doing a
>smaller show so they only had a drum set in addition
>to their synths.
>Anyway..these guys will be blowing up all over very
>soon. THey are very talented and deserve the credit
>they get. Make sure you check 'em out if you like
>trance.

Amen to this! Deepsky is da shit!! 8) MODA



























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In a message dated 20/02/00 8:11:40 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
gdamiani@umich.edu writes:

<< what list? >>


/me grabs left tit

"This list baby, wanna fight about it?" 

hehe
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 01:31:38 2000
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Subject: [mw] *Junglodium -  this saturday! feb 26 - Cleveland
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_just a reminder*

                                          A Sphere and Baseheads Production
                                                        *Junglodium
                                                  Two rooms all DnB!
                                                  Feb 26th, Cleveland
                                                     10 PM - 7 AM
                                          216.556.2982 - 216.556.5081

Directions to this event will be posted on friday, February 25th.

We have a lot in store for you, expect to be amazed!

KRUST- V Recordings - Bristol, England
'Warhead': http://www.jungle.spb.ru/ram/warhead.ram
'Warhead 2000':
http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/jungle/real/december99/warhead2000.ram
'Coded Language':  http://209.237.157.45/ram/49662.RAM
Reprazent (Roni Size, Krust, DJ Die, Suv, Dynamite MC, Onallee),
 'Brown Paper Bag':
http://www.fly.co.uk/realaudio/ram/brown.ram

       performing w/ MORGAN & DYNAMITE MC

UFO!- Phunckateck / Pneuma Recordings / Green Label / Thermal - San
Francisco
'Rollcage': http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/real/january2000/rollcage.ram
'Science Fact':
http://www.thermalrecordings.com/tracks/real/enemy_infiltration.ram
'Divination': http://209.235.13.38/audio/pc47.ram
Report of performance at Eklektic in SF:
http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/event-27jan2000.html

SNIPER- Vinyl Syndicate / Syrous / Champion Sound - Toronto
'Dub-plate Pressure' (feat. MC GQ):
http://www.vinyl-net.com/audio/syn01.ram

MYSTICAL INFLUENCE- Vinyl Syndicate / Syrous / Champion Sound - Toronto
'Man of Steel': http://www.jungle.spb.ru/ram/man_of_steel.ram

  performing w/ MC RECCA - Vinyl Syndicate / Syrous / Champion Sound -
Toronto

KEVIN CUNNINGHAM- Supreme Records / Baseheads / Psychoactive / Sphere -
Chicago
'Synthetik': http://cosmicbreaks.com/funk/kevone.ram
'The Power of Ex remix [Angel Alanis]':
http://cosmicbreaks.com/funk/kevrmx.ram
more at: http://cosmicbreaks.com/funk/tracks.html

TIK TAK - Baseheads / Sphere - Cleveland
BAGEL - Erban Abbariginals / TFC - Pittsburgh
HAZEY - House of Styles / Sphere - Cleveland
ROB RIDDUM - Element Squad - Cleveland
DJ RELEASE - Baseheads / Psychoactive - Cleveland
LSDiaz - Sphere- Youngstown
AKSHUN & CONSPIRACY- TSK - Akron

With Master of Ceremonies:
     MC JAMALSKI - Boogie Down Productions - San Francisco
http://www.selekta.com/multimedia/video/freaknation/freaknation2.ram


2 rooms of TURBOSOUND provided by Steve Sound / Eighth Day
Intelligent Lighting by Electrolyte FX
 + much visual pleasure

Bring your whistles and lighters! Crews reprazent!

Admission:
$20 presale
$25 if dressed in Camouflage!
$27 @ door
Presales are out and selling fast! Get your ticket to ensure admission and
save money.

Ticket Outlets
Cleveland
  Grand Poo Ba's - 216.521.9177
Akron
  Fame Records - 330.434.1354
Columbus
  Culture 7 - 614.848.6499
Cincinnati
  Kowtow - 513.221.1777
Pittsburgh
  Avalon - 412.621.1211
Detroit
  Detroit Threads - 313.872.1777

You can also send a Money Order made out to "Sphere Productions, Inc." to
   13938A Cedar Road #364
   University Heights, OH 44118-3204
$20 for each presale
(be sure to include your return address and telephone number or email)

Distances to Cleveland: [based on avg. speed of 65 mph ]

Pittsburgh - 2 hours [ 130 miles ]
Columbus - 2 hours  [ 136 miles ]
Detroit - 2.5 hours [ 150 miles ]
Dayton - 3 hours [ 205 miles ]
Buffalo - 3.25 hours [ 197 miles ]
Cincinnati - 3.75 hours [ 256 miles ]
Rochester - 4.25 hours [ 262 miles ]
Indianapolis - 4.75 hours [ 315 miles ]
Toronto - 5 hours [ 320 miles ]
Louisville - 5.25 hours [ 340 miles ]
Chicago - 5.5 hours [ 350 miles ]

Please respect the venue! R.O.A.R. and R.O.D. in full effect.

Smile, it's good for ya!
;þ

send questions to: sphere@sphereproductions.com
for local hotels: hotelinfo@sphereproductions.com
get all your personalized directions from www.mapblast.com

Sphere 2000 events; listed, but not limited to...:
March 19: Mix Master Mike and Rahzel; Taking place at the Agora
                Theater in Cleveland; $17.50 adv, $20 day of; avail.
through
                all ticketmaster locations and Sphere.
April 7: Bass Invaders (all DnB); Sphere-Baseheads
July 22: Tonka2; Bigger and better! The truck is coming!!
October 14: Barely Legal 3;
http://www.hyperreal.org/raves/pb-cle/rom/events/00-10-14-barely.legal.html
December 23: Be Squared - 3rd edition

www.sphereproductions.com
www.ravetildawn.com (coming soon...)

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Peace.  I will B there.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 01:39:41 2000
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Is this for real...come on..next think i know i'm gonna see Storms Fly as=
s
outside my window talking about, "Artic winds BLOW!"


SHIT..i hope i'm a mutant..so i can blast these mofo's.

Fuego :)

Respect yo self....



"crack head" <angylduzt@hotmail.com> wrote:

remember the "x-men"

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>Subject: MUTANT PROBLEM -You May Not Be Safe
>Date: 18 Feb 00 17:10:26 -0500
>
>Dear concerned citizen:
>
>Many of you are aware that there is a danger living among us. Many of
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 01:46:27 2000
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>Is this for real...come on..next think i know i'm gonna see Storms Fly ass
>outside my window talking about, "Artic winds BLOW!"
--
naw. not real but pretty convincing. if you have quicktime, check out 
http://www.x-men-the-movie.com

kickass trailer.
: 111


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 01:46:30 2000
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>From: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
>Reply-To: Griggles <gdamiani@umich.edu>
>To: keep it to yourself next time <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 20:08:28 -0500
>
>what list?
>


hmmmm,

nope still not funny.

Maybe if someone posts this in two years I might smile, otherwise, its right 
there with "I heard Dj Funk got shot" psuedo-humor.

me opinion,
adam

And no, replying to this email with "what list" will still not be funny.  I 
swear.  Dont do it.  I will kill you.

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I'll start this post by just saying that the partee last nite was good, but 
not great. DiggaBeatz spun a tight set, and I was runnin around pretty much 
the rest of the night so I couldn't pay attention to much. Deepblue spun a 
phat set as well. Lighting for this one was good, and overall I think the 
kidz there were kool. The lighting in the basement was terrible though, and I 
almost tripped over three people and two backpacks when I went down there. 
Propz to everyone who came out, and hope 2 see everyone at Jungalodium next 
weekend.

Sean

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 01:56:58 2000
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Subject: [mw] Mach 2 - March 11 - Toronto
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  *in case you didn't already know...

Renegades and Daybreaks
Mach 2
Saturday, March 11
Toronto
416.760.3305
416.280.6499
$25 advance
/available through all ticketmaster locations


JEFF MILLS
   axis; purposemaker - Detroit

HARM>ON>E
   trance budda; daybreaks - Amsterdam

LEMON D + DILLINJA
   test; valve; metalheadz; v recordings;remixed something out there;
   bambaata - London UK

DJ SNEAK
  all world; djsneak.com - Chicago

also:
Clayton Steele
D-monic
Eternal
Everfresh
Jelo
Kinetic
Lush
Marcus
MC Caddy Cad
MC L. Natural
Myka
Mystical Influence
Paul Walker
Righ Bailey
Sniper
Stretch & Hooker
Tim Patrick
Unknown Souljah








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Syceda Rhythm presents...

ANDELAY
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Nitro [Kansas City] (Better Days Records/Blown Away)
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Offtrack [Kansas] (Techno-Justice League, midwest/TNT for your head)
AC [Kansas] (Massive Mag, Topeka KS 666Zipcodetown) rekkids goa!

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how much for this one?

just outta curiosity..

suzi/s00zi

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Lincoln001@aol.com wrote:
> 
> how much for this one?
> 
> just outta curiosity..
 
$17.00

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So did anyone see Fox 32...a "rave party" was busted at 9 this morn..
what party are they talking about???

oh and if that doesn't get you....a pet monkey mauled this woman almost t=
o
death.
Here ass got bit twice and almost killed her ass this time..but she won't=
 let
the bastard go...hmmm..i think she's fuckin' around with the monkey


Fuego :)



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 03:12:53 2000
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Just curious... is there a Midwest web message board?

I'm only wondering because I'm about to move to the Midwest and I have an 
addiction to the Northwest Tekno Board.  Just in case there isn't one, I 
went ahead and made one.  I'd rather go to a bulletin board that's already 
established however.

-Dante
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 03:19:33 2000
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Hey all,

   Just thought I'd take a second to point out that..Double Zero number one 
Promos out now,its a new side label of Emotif(drum and bass label in 
london).Its more Dancefloor oriented Drum and bass,Which leaves Emotif for 
the expirimental stuff.

This Record isn't really getting the credit it deserves...

I recomend Everyone to check this release,its super dope...its by 'Ill 
Figure' and the Tunes are A.)Nimrod and B.)Dupe

-Winn/Nujack =)

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:i am sure macgiver could use a clothes pin, water bottle, duct tape & some


excuse me...

what is a "clothes pin"  ??

;]

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 03:35:44 2000
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but considering the media attention
>raves have been getting, and the false stereotypes imposed on all that
>attend them, and the assumptions made about what goes on at them (which,
>sadly enough, are becoming more and more true),

does this have anything to do w/ the media coverage that raves/raving is 
getting... i mean with out the blanket coverage given your average mallrat 
would probably never figure out what goes on (for real and assumed)at a 
rave... they would never figure out that x can be easily obtained there...

complain about that
>annoying techno shit in the background while they're trying to roll face.

hahahahahahahah!!!! =)  that is funny...


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mister dante wrote:

> Just curious... is there a Midwest web message board?
>
> I'm only wondering because I'm about to move to the Midwest and I have an
> addiction to the Northwest Tekno Board.  Just in case there isn't one, I
> went ahead and made one.  I'd rather go to a bulletin board that's already
> established however.

You're moving from the NW to the MW?  I'm sorry...  from what
I have heard the scene in the NW is quite a bit better than it is
here (of course I could be mistaken.. never been there).



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review on the mega-rave in chicago this weekend?  anyone?



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>Maybe if someone posts this in two years I might smile, otherwise, its 
>right
>there with "I heard Dj Funk got shot"

OMG!!! Dj Funk was shot????  ;-)
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[>>Maybe if someone posts this in two years I might smile, otherwise, its 
[>>right
[>>there with "I heard Dj Funk got shot"
[>
[>OMG!!! Dj Funk was shot????  ;-)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 03:58:25 2000
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YOU GOT PEGGED BIAAAAAAATCH!

at furthur this year it is on....imma bring a big ass fuckin bag of
pegs and pixie is gonna be covered in them. heheh.  rockstar tits of death
beware! 

>what's a "clothes pin"?

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At 22:41 20-2-00 -0500, you wrote:

>You're moving from the NW to the MW?  I'm sorry...  from what
>I have heard the scene in the NW is quite a bit better than it is
>here (of course I could be mistaken.. never been there).

I heard from a *very* reliable source that grass is actually a lot greener 
on the other side of the fence.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 04:05:18 2000
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for some reason i have been on a jungle kick the last few days... i know 
almost nothing about it and was wonder if anyone could point me in the right 
direction?  artists, labels, audio links anything like that...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 04:07:56 2000
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okay...who is going to live on the decks? i should be going up there on
saturday afternoon with miss lorie...woohoo. 

and jes..if you get this and can hit me back and lemme know whats goin on
beforehand...please email meeeeeee.

danke. 
that is all.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 04:08:58 2000
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i know this has already made the rounds but this was just re-released and i 
saw it for the first time (at the kentucky theatre no less) and i must say 
that it is one of my alltime fav movies.  a movie that makes me think... 
what a novel concept.  and the visual imagry... OMG... i must change my 
pants now ;-P

still thinking about it...

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Eye-D wrote:

> At 22:41 20-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >You're moving from the NW to the MW?  I'm sorry...  from what
> >I have heard the scene in the NW is quite a bit better than it is
> >here (of course I could be mistaken.. never been there).
>
> I heard from a *very* reliable source that grass is actually a lot greener
> on the other side of the fence.

True enough.  It's probably about the same almost everywhere...

The MW has a lot of color and variety, but the people at least
in my neighborhood tend to be snobby and jaded.

BTW, there's a new acronym... PLUR has been used a lot lately
to refer not to 'Peace Love Unity and Respect' but to 'Pretty
Little Underage Ravers' or 'Pill Loving Unemployed Ravers',
etc.  :)  Well, try this:

BOAR:

Bored
Over
Age
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 04:29:35 2000
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Griggles wrote:
> what list?

me too.  peace.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 04:42:14 2000
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If you ever run into one of us, just slowly back away....

While I sit here, waiting for my laundry to finish (FINALLY), i've been 
thinking.
Why do the strong attract the weak?  Does it give some stability to them?  
Don't they know that their weakness is hard for even us to handle?  Even the 
strongest being will falter with enough pressure...

We talk about 'carrying' the role of teacher to the younger ravers.. teach 
them the way, teach them what 'raving' is about.. teach them, teach them, 
teach them!  teach this!  So we talk about 'doing' something about our 
'scenes' (i hate that word still!) and helping our 'young' learn to do things 
the 'right way'... what is the right way?  Is it the PLURry way?  Is it the 
'about the music' way?  Is it 'do drugs until you pop but be happy while you 
do them' way?  Who are you to know?  Someone who is 'within' the evolution 
cannot possibly recognize the way.. we can only see what we were taught.  Who 
says that what we were taught is the right way?  I'm sure that the primitive 
man didn't all of a sudden notice that his skull was getting thinner.. he 
only noticed the change in his young.  

You teach what you know until it becomes appearant that there have been so 
many changes that ..your way is no longer 'the' way.

I wonder to how many people this actually occurred.  It didn't really get to 
me until tonight...

listening to my hand-washables dripping onto a towel.

yeah... so teach this, fuckers.  i'm right for my state of mind, my 
familiars, my place.. and i could be right for yours... it's all a matter of 
preference.

SO.. don't write me with your useless meanderings.. don't tell me what you 
think.. just.. think on this.  I"m tired.  I"m still a puppy - a rave puppy.. 
i'm not old skool, i'm not better than you, and i most certainly am NOT more 
rave than you.. i've been around for a while..and i've watched...(period)

I dont' know what this letter was supposed to do..  it hasn't alleviated any 
of my pissed-off feelings..just...maybe will help explain.  If I ever thought 
that mw-raves was ... a pain at times..i know that kcraves is no better... 
likewise with stlraves...etc.  There are no better.

As we sit here..we are amidst some sad little group we call mw-raves.  does 
the world revolve around us?  no..definately not.. do we think the world 
revolves aroudn us?  ..yeah..tha's obvious..  and maybe it does.. but most 
likely it doesn't

yeah..i'm pissed off.  i've been pissed off and jaded or disillusioned for a 
while...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 05:37:15 2000
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u call that pissed off?

nawww, dis is pissed off...

so i finally get my first pay check after waitin 3 weeks
...and they only pay me for 1 of the 3 weeks i've worked
there...they claim they alwaze pay 2 weeks behind, what 
a pile of bullshit!...as if it ain't bad enough they hadn't
paid me in 3 weeks!...and i got mad bills to pay!...of course 
when i get off from work, it's 5pm, so it's too late to get 
my check cashed...so i take it to krogers & of course when
u get yur check cashed at krogers, u get a $4 krogers 
certificate as part of the payment (i don't mind, but the
real wack part is you hafta spend over $10 @ krogers to
use the certificate)...so i got this big wad of loot that is
s'posed to last me the next 2 weeks w/ mad bills to pay
cuz i've been unemployed all this time...and of course, i
go to redzone & buy mad drinks there (even bought a round
of shotz for mike g, essence, & viktor cuz they've been
hookin me up pretty good w/ the v.i.p treatment)...and of
course i go to the afterhours...and of course i lose my 
leather jacket @ the afterhours (if anybody see's someone
wearin my black leather jacket that i alwaze wear to the
clubs, sucker punch dat thief & get me back my jacket &
i'll give u reward money!)...i get back @ 9am in the mornin
and my boss calls & asks me why i ain't at work...i'm like:
"huh?"...so i go straight to work w/o a wink of sleep & work
til 11am...i almost fall asleep @ the wheel on my drive back
...after catchin up on some mad sleep, i wake up w/ a cold...
and of course my roomies have a couple people over...i don't
mind 'cept they leave they this huge mess in the apartment 
& they took the liberty of eatin some of my food!...and if all
this wasn't bad enough, i find out i'm missin about $75 that
most prolly fell outta my pockets when i wuz dancin in the
circle @ the afterhours!!...i'd bitch more, but i gotta go to
bed so i can be @ work @ 8am in the mornin...go damn, i hate
my job!!...all part of the white supremist conspiracy, god 
damn "da man"!!!...

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I saw it on the news.

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Let me get this straight...you have mad bills to pay...so you go clubbing
and buy everyone drinks...and then you can't wake up and go to this job
that you need to survive...the only one that should be bitching is your
boss...  Of all the things you bitch and complain about, don't you think
you should take responsibility on this one?
I still am,
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> u call that pissed off?
> 
> nawww, dis is pissed off...
> 
> so i finally get my first pay check after waitin 3 weeks
> ...and they only pay me for 1 of the 3 weeks i've worked
> there...they claim they alwaze pay 2 weeks behind, what 
> a pile of bullshit!...as if it ain't bad enough they hadn't
> paid me in 3 weeks!...and i got mad bills to pay!...of course 
> when i get off from work, it's 5pm, so it's too late to get 
> my check cashed...so i take it to krogers & of course when
> u get yur check cashed at krogers, u get a $4 krogers 
> certificate as part of the payment (i don't mind, but the
> real wack part is you hafta spend over $10 @ krogers to
> use the certificate)...so i got this big wad of loot that is
> s'posed to last me the next 2 weeks w/ mad bills to pay
> cuz i've been unemployed all this time...and of course, i
> go to redzone & buy mad drinks there (even bought a round
> of shotz for mike g, essence, & viktor cuz they've been
> hookin me up pretty good w/ the v.i.p treatment)...and of
> course i go to the afterhours...and of course i lose my 
> leather jacket @ the afterhours (if anybody see's someone
> wearin my black leather jacket that i alwaze wear to the
> clubs, sucker punch dat thief & get me back my jacket &
> i'll give u reward money!)...i get back @ 9am in the mornin
> and my boss calls & asks me why i ain't at work...i'm like:
> "huh?"...so i go straight to work w/o a wink of sleep & work
> til 11am...i almost fall asleep @ the wheel on my drive back
> ...after catchin up on some mad sleep, i wake up w/ a cold...
> and of course my roomies have a couple people over...i don't
> mind 'cept they leave they this huge mess in the apartment 
> & they took the liberty of eatin some of my food!...and if all
> this wasn't bad enough, i find out i'm missin about $75 that
> most prolly fell outta my pockets when i wuz dancin in the
> circle @ the afterhours!!...i'd bitch more, but i gotta go to
> bed so i can be @ work @ 8am in the mornin...go damn, i hate
> my job!!...all part of the white supremist conspiracy, god 
> damn "da man"!!!...
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>u call that pissed off?
>
>nawww, dis is pissed off...

i heard from a reliable source that the grass is always browner and deader 
on the other side.

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bahahaha..hellz yeah!

suzi/s00zi

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>i heard from a reliable source that the grass is always browner and deader 
>on the other side.

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so did I.  they referred to it as the "rave party"  found some K, some pi=
lls
and a little pot...said the party got busted at 9 am. this morn....

must have been another after hours.....little by little shit is
crumbling...but things change...


Fuego:)

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So it's 12:30 A.M. i'm tired, i'm pissed, i'm bored, i'm confused at to w=
hat
all this means..i mean purpose to what we do.

Tired--tired of school for one..i graduate in June and it seems as if It =
can't
come quick enough.  Teachers piling up work like it's going out of style.=
 =

Teachers claiming to care for students, but telling them "I don't think y=
our
gonna pass."  I mean, what type of shit is that.  I work full time at an
investment baking firm (woah), have a full load of classes, trying to man=
age
an Internship which is all over the place, i get sick with the flu (heave=
n
forbid) and I'm not gonna pass? Whatever man...it tell you one damn thing=

DePaul will not get anymore more of my funds..helll no.

Pissed....

you work so hard and no one appreciates you for what you can do.  Not eve=
ryone
can cry to mommy and daddy for money...some of us have to work hard befor=
e
it's really time for us to.  I just wish some people would take the time =
to
realize that we are all human...i'm not superman...i can't give 300% all
time...i wear down...i want to slack...you know...and more importantly i =
want
to sleep....

Confused...

what the hell is going on lately with parties and people within the "scen=
e". =

So many complex issues..so little time.  I truely beleive if we respect
ourselves (referring to the people who don't) and others around us...thin=
gs
would run smoother.  But I guess there is no clean cut solution after all=
 but
at least it's a start.  But what am i saying..it's like we've beat this
subject to a pulp and shit still isn't right...so what can you do.  I say=
 just
make sure your shit is together and if everyone did that maybe change wou=
ld
come.


Purpose

why do we have to do the things we do...like work at 8 am in the morning.=
=2E.get
straight A's, fit in...do what is expected of us.  I sometimes wonder why=
 I do
all the things that I do and most of the time I can't figure out why.  Ma=
ybe
it has to do with the cards we were all dealt in the beginning of time...=
maybe
it's our influences like our parents our friends...society as a whole.  W=
hat
is the right answer..what are we doing...how will the story end....and fo=
r
that matter how did the story begin.....so many questions..so little time=
=2E...


Anywayz..i've wasted enough time here..it's 12:40 now...i have to study f=
or
astronomy and knock this web page out...and leave the house at like 7:40 =
int
morn..to catch CTA to make it to class on time....*bleh* why the fuck do =
i get
work off on presidents day..but depaul is so hard up they won't let us
off....man i could really use tomorrow off....sigh


well...i'm done..kids.  Everything I have said has basically been a brain=

burp.  I purpose was not to offend but to relieve a bit of this psyhic
pollution that had filled my dome....i'll see you in when i'm not as
slappy....


Fuego!

peace n blessin' manifest with every lesson learned
if your knowledge were your wealth then it would be well earned
if we remain in his image than call us by our names...
most intellects do not believe in god but they fear us just the same...

our cipher keeps movin' like a rollin' stone-Badu

Respect..yo self

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There are FIVE message boards for the Midwest listed in the Message Boards
section of our Madison-Milwaukee webpages:

http://www.technoheaven.com/madison-milwaukee2.htm#messageboards

Midwest Rave Team is my favorite.

Len Lindsay ( LenLindsay@TechnoHeaven.com )
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----- Original Message -----
From: mister dante <olyraver@hotmail.com>
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> Just curious... is there a Midwest web message board?
>
> I'm only wondering because I'm about to move to the Midwest and I have an
> addiction to the Northwest Tekno Board.  Just in case there isn't one, I
> went ahead and made one.  I'd rather go to a bulletin board that's already
> established however.
>
> -Dante
> Olympia, WA soon to be Omaha, NE...



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It was fuckin' annoying! Just shows how stupid the authorities are. If they 
really wanted to clamp down on raves..all they have to do is go to any store 
with rave flyers and bust them that way. STUPID! STUPID!! STUPID COPS!!!

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This sucks.

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All Australians who read this shoud be prepared for the media onslaught this
week due to the drug-induced death of a 25 year old 2 days ago at the HAPPY
VALLEY festival (where Geoff Da Chef and I spun at also). On top of this,
there was a 20 year old girl who went into a coma just after this death. The
media beat ups have started already....

fun fun fun...!

MARK N
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Yea, most of the raves while I was in high school got flyered for at the
high school.  As soon as they started doing that, the make-up of the crowd
really changed.  Admittedly, they got more people, which was their desire,
but the quality of the crowd went seriously down hill.  Not a good thing
at all, if you ask me.  Way too many people there for the wrong reasons.

And if I had to hear Paul van Dyk on a daily basis I'd go crazier.  :)

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What the hell kind of name is rainbow butterfly for this?  That sounds
like a character from my little pony!  

They should call it like the Anti-Camel Toe 2000 or Decamelpawizer.  :)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 08:11:55 2000
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Actually, the more I think about this movie, the less I like it.  I came
out of it raving about it, calling it the best movie of the year, and I
went to it twice more in the next two days.

But the more that I think about it, the more I realize how off it was.
Sure, its intentions were good, and it really had some good 'philosophy'
behind it, but I can't help but question a movie with a moral like this
where the only two characters who achieve "enlightenment" are very
wealthy, and through very unrealistic means.

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February 22, 2000 and every Tuesday is Eternal Beats Internet Radio live
from Long Island, NewYork, USA 10PM till 1AM Eastern
Standard Time. 

Go to www.eternalbeats.cjb.net Click on live broadcast.  

Talk to the DJs & listeners in the Eternal Beats Chat room

If you're on America Online or AOL Instant Messenger, you can Instant
Message me at:

DJ Lord V

You will need at least a 28K modem to view the presentation.

February 22, 2000

10PM till 11:00PM
Lord V (Eternal Beats, NY)
Breakbeat, electro, battle breaks, house & more

11:00PM till 12:00AM
Usul (Genesis Projekt/Space Kadets Collective, NY)
House/Techno

12:00AM till 1AM
Magic (Genesis Projekt/Space Kadets Collective, NY)
Trance

2/29
Narotic & Xeno (www.gabber.org/stf)

Guests DJs coming soon:
Odi, Vicious Vic, Bobby Skills & Space Monk-E,  Johnny Hardcore & many
more. 

If you are a DJ interested in spinning on the show, e-mail me your
contact information.  If you want promotional support for your
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it was phuckin dope yo!!  dj funk tore it up!  shoutz to all my peepz!!


On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, jonathan wrote:

> review on the mega-rave in chicago this weekend?  anyone?
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i know this is sort of short notice.....
anyways, i have a few friends coming here to chicago this weekend to hang out 
and see richie play on saturday.
they are coming in thursday night and will be here till monday probably
both of them are pretty well known djs in the southeast
dj camry and dj fotizo
camry is known for bringing hardcore to the scene out there
fotizo is known for techno
if any of you know of anywhere that they can maybe play just let me know
its no big deal.... they would just like to have a chance to play the 
midwest.  
just get back to me privately

jackie

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atomly wrote:

> On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Griggles wrote:
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> me too.  peace.

We're on a list???  I thought I just had a whole bunch of friends
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 Oh god, that sounds exactly like it is at my high school right now. I'm
 a senior..been goin to parties for 3 years in March. Anyways, a senior
 last year happened about flyers for Pillow Talk in Indy over the  summer,
 and he took about 200 and gave them to the football team to passout to
 everyone. Sure enough, about 150 kids from my school showed up for
 the party! I was in shock. I was glad that most of them didn't end up
 getting in because of the little problems the poromoters were having, 
 atleast I did..had an alright time. But he continued to do this..and now
 we have all these kids from my school that walk around with candy jewelry
 on all candied out after going to one or two parties.. and at each
 party one of em goes to, they come up to me and say, "Hey are you
 ROOOOLLIN?!" and everything and lay around in an e-pile made almost
 entirely from kids from my school. It fuckin pisses me off. I talked to
 the guy responsible for all this this past weekend at his work
 (Blockbuster) and he said he doesn't go anymore.. He said Oh I can just
 listen to that music in my room, blah blah blah.. and he's tired of
 all the little kids from our school goin to do drugs since they think
 that's the only point of a party. He's the one that fuckin started trying
 to make it a big trend at our school! I'm so damn tired of it.. all these
 ghetto thug kids at my school are always comin up to me and saying Hey
 you go to those rave things are there lots of drugs there? Can you hook
 me up? I wanna go to one sooo fuckin bad! and all these kids that have
 never seen the affects of drug abuse at all.. sitting in class saying
 OH I'VE HEARD X IS THE BEST..like you can run into a wall and it's the
 best feeling in the world. And the damn kids of never even experienced
 what it does (nor know at all what it does to your body) at all! 

 I go to a relatively small school in Westfield, IN and so when trends
 start, they spread fast.. everyone wants to be a part of them. I'm just
 tired of seeing all these kids that didn't give a shit before..suddenly
 showing up and thinking the only reason behind a party is to get as
 fucked up as possible and wear as much candy as possible to school the
 next week. Anyways, enough of my rant! ;P Anyone else have to deal with
 problems like this? I know most of the people on this list are older..
 but still thought I'd ask.

     Peace,

        *Shandi*


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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, atomly wrote:

> Yea, most of the raves while I was in high school got flyered for at the
> high school.  As soon as they started doing that, the make-up of the crowd
> really changed.  Admittedly, they got more people, which was their desire,
> but the quality of the crowd went seriously down hill.  Not a good thing
> at all, if you ask me.  Way too many people there for the wrong reasons.
> 
> And if I had to hear Paul van Dyk on a daily basis I'd go crazier.  :)
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god damn I love electronic music. just wanted to share, adam
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>From: "Adam Meadows" <adameadows@hotmail.com>
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>god damn I love electronic music. just wanted to share, adam









































































me too,
adam
dont waste my time,
adam
and I wont waste yours,
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whats electronic music??

rockin out to some acoustic deathmetal
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after reading this, i thought i'd sare my experience with parties and people
i've met and see what kind of discussion this sparks.

my experience short of a few months ago with raves was just what i head from
friends, seen on the news, and read on hyperreal.  when i wanted to go
somewhere to have fun, i was more interested in the punk/alternative scene
or gay bars than going to a rave.  also, i wasn't much for the drugs, as i
had had my share in the past and wasn't that interested in re-visiting that
part of my life...

i'm 27, and have noticed a big change in the punk scene, not unlike the
changes you're seeing in this arena...the people are meaner, typical
behaviors are dumbed down from "unity and respect" to "drug taking and
acting weird"...back when i was 14 and saw black flag, a guy i ddin't know
accidently head butted me and picked me up and gave me a hug and
apologized...at the last punk concert i went to i was nearly trampled
because some people behind me wanted to get 2 inches closer to the stage -
i'm not a small guy, but i could barely move enough to expand my chest to
breate.  not fun.

the thing i DID like about these events, however, was that you could
guarantee that there wasn't anyone there that wasn't 100% committed to
having fun - you just had to hope that their fun didn't turn out to be
anti-fun for you.

this is the element that has really attracted me to the rave scene - you
can't necessarily guess what tpyes of people will show up to a party, but
you can be sure that there won't be anyone there that isn't looking to have
as much fun as they can possibly have.  if there happened to be a few people
there that didn't get "it"...you could be sure that they would soon
disappear from your surroundings, either sulking in the corner or leaving
altogether.  hell, the first rave i went to i did exactly that...didn't "get
it"...and left...good for me, i think...i won't make that mistake again
though :)

i don't think y'all need to worry about the scane changing so much.  you
reap what you sow, keep the positive attitude and things will work out fine.
that's the big difference between the origins fo the punk scene and the
origins of the rave scene...you can't write/sing songs about hate for too
long without bringing that influence into your crowd...just stay on the high
road and this will pass.

ps - if ya ever see me in a black t-shirt that says "counter narcotics,
special operations" on the back in yellow letters, its a joke...come up and
say hi :)  more people are scared off by that one than anything else i could
wear...

-tony
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saw it 3 times- and it still didn't get old.    Girl Interrupted is a great 
movie as well.  i wanted to see it because of angelina jolie of course 
::drool:: but it was MUCH better than i expected.   (saw it twice)   a very 
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> movie as well.  i wanted to see it because of angelina jolie of course 
> ::drool:: but it was MUCH better than i expected.   (saw it twice)   a very 
> good movie


*hell yes* to that.  that woman is a fucking goddess.
but did anybody see her at that award show after??  she looked....old.
ew.
nonetheless, good movie, go see it, but read the book first.  things will
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Let's take this conversation on over to mw-boxchompers, mmmkay?



  i wanted to see it because of angelina jolie of course
> > ::drool:: but it was MUCH better than i expected.   (saw it twice)   a 
>very
> > good movie
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>*hell yes* to that.  that woman is a fucking goddess.
>but did anybody see her at that award show after??  she looked....old.
>ew.



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hey guys..
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hey everybody

i'm moving to san fran tomorrow so i wanted to say bye.  it's been 
entertaining:):)  

for anyone who needs to get a hold of me for bookings or to say hi, my voice 
mail will be up for another month and by then, there will be new contact info 
on it....

i hope you all have a lovely one

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 19:45:33 2000
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
> Let's take this conversation on over to mw-boxchompers, mmmkay?

Dammit, Ken!  I told you not to tell people about our private list, now
it's just going to be a bunch of "me too" and "what list" posts!

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atomly wrote:

> But the more that I think about it, the more I realize how off it was.
> Sure, its intentions were good, and it really had some good 'philosophy'
> behind it, but I can't help but question a movie with a moral like this
> where the only two characters who achieve "enlightenment" are very
> wealthy, and through very unrealistic means.

I finally managed to see it, and I have mixed feelings about it.  It's the
first time I've seen such a blatant protrayal of archetypes in American film
in a while.  I wouldn't say that Lester had achieved enlightenment--in a
Taoist sense or otherwise.  The route he took was similar to Watanabe in
Kurosawa's _Ikiru_, but then we find his wantonness checked when he declines
to have sex with Angela.  Anyone else notice that Angela's last name is
Hayes?  Probably not coincidentally, the surname of Nabokov's Lolita is
'Haze'.  But as far as Lester is concerned, he reflects what I suspect is a
widespread sentiment about how many people in modern society wish they could
live their lives.  If he hadn't been killed, then both he and Ricky would
have gotten the "sunset ending" treatment.  And like you said, both of them
were only able to enjoy their lifestyles because they were wealthy.  I don't
think either of the characters were quintessentially Taoist, but Ricky was
the closest, IMHO, especially due to his "bag" film, and soliloquy (for lack
of a better word) in the same scene--of course, some people in the theater
laughed at the bag (don't diss the bag!!).  People also laughed when Carolyn
screamed while she was alone in the house she was trying to sell: the only
moment of real self-honesty she exhibited in the entire film, unless you
count her sorrow when she found Lester shot.  No one laughed when Colonel
Fitts kissed Lester, though (his one moment of self-honesty), and I think
this distinction says a lot about what is has been designated culturally
acceptable and what hasn't in the US: outting oneself as homosexual is
officially OK now, thanks to gay rights, whereas expressing frustration when
the unnatural modern American lifestyle pushes you to the brink of nervous
breakdown is considered abnormal.  (Now go back to your desk, cog.)

I was surprised to hear some of the things Ricky said in the film, and to
see the look in his eyes as he gazed (without longing, but with awe and
wonder) at the beauty around him.  It was strange to hear and see someone
else echo myself in that way...  The seemingly dualistic appreciation of
aesthetics that Ricky momentarily exemplifies (or maybe just in my eyes) is
something that I remember trying for a long time to express in words; until
finally the very first passage of Tao te Ching became clear to me on a
re-reading; and I found that Lao Tsu perfectly, eloquently, beautifully
expressed the very sentiment I had spent pages trying to convey:

"Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
 Ever desiring, one can see the manifestations."

still makes me teary to read it.


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couldn't the retainers be allegorical?  maybe, their mouths are the 
metaphor for the once-proud chicago rave scene.

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Todd Moody wrote:
> I don't think either of the characters were quintessentially Taoist,
> but Ricky was the closest, IMHO, especially due to his "bag" film, and
> soliloquy (for lack of a better word) in the same scene--of course,
> some people in the theater laughed at the bag (don't diss the bag!!).  

Yea, I really loved that scene.  Ricky came the closest to Taoist if any
character I've seen in a major Hollywood movie, I think that's why I liked
it so much the first time.  He really struck a chord with me, I guess.
> outting oneself as homosexual is officially OK now, thanks to gay
> rights, whereas expressing frustration when the unnatural modern
> American lifestyle pushes you to the brink of nervous

I don't know if it's this, or that neither was really "funny."  Tough
call.

> (Now go back to your desk, cog.)

Yes sir, right away.  I'll have that report for you by five. :)

> "Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
>  Ever desiring, one can see the manifestations."

Hmm, slightly different from the translation I use
(http://www.atomly.com/tao.txt) but still the same point.

"Free from desire, you realize the mystery.
Caught in desire, you see only the manifestations."

Anyway, I suppose that we should take this off list from now on, since
most people don't want to hear us ramble about the greatness of the Tao.

/me practices the art of "non-raving."

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in reply to "whats right/wrong with the scene..and where is it going ,next 
time you ask yourself this queston..ask yourself the same question...and the 
answer is not far from there..

-winn/nujack


>From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>CC: 'Shandi' <tankgirl@indy.net>, atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
>Subject: [mw] what's wrong/right with the scene
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:22:45 -0600
>
>after reading this, i thought i'd sare my experience with parties and 
>people
>i've met and see what kind of discussion this sparks.
>
>my experience short of a few months ago with raves was just what i head 
>from
>friends, seen on the news, and read on hyperreal.  when i wanted to go
>somewhere to have fun, i was more interested in the punk/alternative scene
>or gay bars than going to a rave.  also, i wasn't much for the drugs, as i
>had had my share in the past and wasn't that interested in re-visiting that
>part of my life...
>
>i'm 27, and have noticed a big change in the punk scene, not unlike the
>changes you're seeing in this arena...the people are meaner, typical
>behaviors are dumbed down from "unity and respect" to "drug taking and
>acting weird"...back when i was 14 and saw black flag, a guy i ddin't know
>accidently head butted me and picked me up and gave me a hug and
>apologized...at the last punk concert i went to i was nearly trampled
>because some people behind me wanted to get 2 inches closer to the stage -
>i'm not a small guy, but i could barely move enough to expand my chest to
>breate.  not fun.
>
>the thing i DID like about these events, however, was that you could
>guarantee that there wasn't anyone there that wasn't 100% committed to
>having fun - you just had to hope that their fun didn't turn out to be
>anti-fun for you.
>
>this is the element that has really attracted me to the rave scene - you
>can't necessarily guess what tpyes of people will show up to a party, but
>you can be sure that there won't be anyone there that isn't looking to have
>as much fun as they can possibly have.  if there happened to be a few 
>people
>there that didn't get "it"...you could be sure that they would soon
>disappear from your surroundings, either sulking in the corner or leaving
>altogether.  hell, the first rave i went to i did exactly that...didn't 
>"get
>it"...and left...good for me, i think...i won't make that mistake again
>though :)
>
>i don't think y'all need to worry about the scane changing so much.  you
>reap what you sow, keep the positive attitude and things will work out 
>fine.
>that's the big difference between the origins fo the punk scene and the
>origins of the rave scene...you can't write/sing songs about hate for too
>long without bringing that influence into your crowd...just stay on the 
>high
>road and this will pass.
>
>ps - if ya ever see me in a black t-shirt that says "counter narcotics,
>special operations" on the back in yellow letters, its a joke...come up and
>say hi :)  more people are scared off by that one than anything else i 
>could
>wear...
>
>-tony
>http://tensionboy.com
>
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heh, i used to have "x-men" #9, the first appearance of the sentinels!  one 
of the cornerstones of my comic book collection, which has now all been 
sold.  :(

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Winn/Nujack . wrote:
> in reply to "whats right/wrong with the scene..and where is it going ,next 
> time you ask yourself this queston..ask yourself the same question...and the 
> answer is not far from there..

What scene?

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>
>Here ass got bit twice and almost killed her ass this time..but she won't let
>the bastard go...hmmm..i think she's fuckin' around with the monkey

haha, this girl i know...her sister or something was working in an 
emergency room in like grove city, and this woman came in with a dog stuck 
INSIDE HER!!!  heh, i guess that male dogs "expand post-penetration" to 
keep themselves from falling out.  they don't "deflate" until after they 
come, and i guess she wasn't wild enough to get her dog off.  ha!

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>Anyone else have to deal with  problems like this? I know most of the 
>people on this list are older.. but still thought I'd ask.

i, too, had a BIG problem with the "jocks" or whatever going to parties when 
i was in high school. i even told them blatant lies to prevent them from 
partying when they expressed interest in doing so.
(i.e. oh you dont wanna go to that drop bass party, drop bass is just a 
front for the police dept. you'll get arrested as soon as you buy a 
ticket...)
anyways, i was really harsh in high school. i have since invited both my 
brothers (Yuppy Boy and Ghetto Thug) to party with me, and the experience 
was great for them (and me too). they learned a lot about themselves and 
others. and i have really noticed a positive change in both of them. not 
saying that raving made them better people or anything. they just got 
exposed to something very unlike their norm. and, they really got into it. 
my older brother ended up partying for a couple years, and my younger is 
showing a lot of interest in being more involved with raves, the music, etc. 
sure, drugs come into play when they party, but that isnt neccisarilly a 
negative thing.
i guess what i'm trying to say is give these kids the benefit of the doubt. 
they are just looking for something that they like...love. it can be a great 
learning experience for them. and they dont really need to be judged or feel 
alienated. and as far as the drugs issue goes, i really feel that even if 
they do seem to be mostly interested in rolling or doing crack or whatnot, 
there is more to it than that. it's not really my place to judge someone's 
drug experience. but, speaking from personal experience, its much deeper 
than being fucked up.
help them along the way. or don't. either way you are bound to learn 
something from them and vice versa.

love,
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oh you shouldn't have done that...i still have 1200 of my comics..i think=

about selling mine once in a shile....but i'm not sure....



michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org> wrote:
heh, i used to have "x-men" #9, the first appearance of the sentinels!  o=
ne =

of the cornerstones of my comic book collection, which has now all been =

sold.  :(

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Twine: next performance:


*****Wednesday Feb. 23rd Europe Gyro, Kent.:   9:30pm*****


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>
>haha, this girl i know...her sister or something was working in an 
>emergency room in like grove city, and this woman came in with a dog stuck 
>INSIDE HER!!!  heh, i guess that male dogs "expand post-penetration" to 
>keep themselves from falling out.  they don't "deflate" until after they 
>come, and i guess she wasn't wild enough to get her dog off.  ha!


It's true...when dogs mate they get stuck together.  I was helping cocker
spaniels mate at work not to long ago...it was really interesting.  Once
there is penetration there's not really any "humping" action.  We turned
the dogs around so that they were butt to butt to keep the female from
biting the male...

And that concludes the mw-raves veterinary medicine lesson of the day.

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i was @ tale of two cities in kenosha on saturday and a group of people were
taping interviews with people attending the party for a documentary (if
anyone knows the name of the documentary or the name of the group producing
it, i'd love to know it, 'cuz i dont' remember)

many of their questions centered on the same issues that have been discussed
here as of late (and i'm guesssing, as of forever)...is the scene
"underground"?  are drugs a problem @ parties?  why do you personally show
up at these events?

i thought the drug question was very interesting, i mean, drugs at parties
is really not very different to me than the drugs that are taken at other
gatherings, whether that be in a college-type bar, a crack house, or a smoky
bingo hall (albeit, the drugs are quite a bit different).

i'd be interested if anyone else on this list was there, or if anyone has
talked w/ these folks there or somewhere else...and what kinds of responses
they had to their questions.

-t

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in reply to "whats right/wrong with the scene..and where is it going ,next 
time you ask yourself this queston..ask yourself the same question...and the

answer is not far from there..

-winn/nujack


>From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>CC: 'Shandi' <tankgirl@indy.net>, atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
>Subject: [mw] what's wrong/right with the scene
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:22:45 -0600
>
>after reading this, i thought i'd sare my experience with parties and 
>people
>i've met and see what kind of discussion this sparks.
>
>my experience short of a few months ago with raves was just what i head 
>from
>friends, seen on the news, and read on hyperreal.  when i wanted to go
>somewhere to have fun, i was more interested in the punk/alternative scene
>or gay bars than going to a rave.  also, i wasn't much for the drugs, as i
>had had my share in the past and wasn't that interested in re-visiting that
>part of my life...
>
>i'm 27, and have noticed a big change in the punk scene, not unlike the
>changes you're seeing in this arena...the people are meaner, typical
>behaviors are dumbed down from "unity and respect" to "drug taking and
>acting weird"...back when i was 14 and saw black flag, a guy i ddin't know
>accidently head butted me and picked me up and gave me a hug and
>apologized...at the last punk concert i went to i was nearly trampled
>because some people behind me wanted to get 2 inches closer to the stage -
>i'm not a small guy, but i could barely move enough to expand my chest to
>breate.  not fun.
>
>the thing i DID like about these events, however, was that you could
>guarantee that there wasn't anyone there that wasn't 100% committed to
>having fun - you just had to hope that their fun didn't turn out to be
>anti-fun for you.
>
>this is the element that has really attracted me to the rave scene - you
>can't necessarily guess what tpyes of people will show up to a party, but
>you can be sure that there won't be anyone there that isn't looking to have
>as much fun as they can possibly have.  if there happened to be a few 
>people
>there that didn't get "it"...you could be sure that they would soon
>disappear from your surroundings, either sulking in the corner or leaving
>altogether.  hell, the first rave i went to i did exactly that...didn't 
>"get
>it"...and left...good for me, i think...i won't make that mistake again
>though :)
>
>i don't think y'all need to worry about the scane changing so much.  you
>reap what you sow, keep the positive attitude and things will work out 
>fine.
>that's the big difference between the origins fo the punk scene and the
>origins of the rave scene...you can't write/sing songs about hate for too
>long without bringing that influence into your crowd...just stay on the 
>high
>road and this will pass.
>
>ps - if ya ever see me in a black t-shirt that says "counter narcotics,
>special operations" on the back in yellow letters, its a joke...come up and
>say hi :)  more people are scared off by that one than anything else i 
>could
>wear...
>
>-tony
>http://tensionboy.com
>
>
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did i miss something? what rave?


<< review on the mega-rave in chicago this weekend?  anyone? >>

or what list? your call.
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>  I go to a relatively small school in Westfield, IN and so when >trends 
>start, they spread fast.. everyone wants to be a part of them. >I'm just 
>tired of seeing all these kids that didn't give a shit >before..suddenly 
>showing up and thinking the only reason behind a >party is to get as fucked 
>up as possible and wear as much candy as >possible to school the next week.


since trends get started so fast and catch on so easily... get them to think 
that something else is now the "cool thing to do".  those that actually go 
to raves for the (for lack of a better word) correct reasons - that is to 
dance, to hear music that you cant hear at more conventional venues, to 
socialize - not to get fucked up and lay on the floor - will still go.  it 
has been my experience that high school aged people tend to follow trends 
and herd like nothing else so you should not have too much trouble.

just my very opinionated .02






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[>did i miss something? what rave?
[>
[><< review on the mega-rave in chicago this weekend?  anyone? >>

i was referring to the party that happened on feb 26th with hawtin,
acquaviva, farley 'jackmaster' funk, etc.

unfortunately, the 26th hasn't happened yet.  (i didn't look at the
date on the flyer until after i posted about it)

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>Kurosawa's _Ikiru_
>Tao te Ching
>Nabokov's Lolita


>"Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
>  Ever desiring, one can see the manifestations."

i need to start reading more... i feel dumb. =)

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EQual-Eyez Productions-- St. Louis/ Iowa City
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GUMMI BEATS 2000
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HUGE lineup TBA... techno, trance, house, drum n bass.. 
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>HUGE lineup TBA... techno, trance, house, drum n bass.. 
>everything you've been waiting for in a party...stay tuned

Can't be everything if I don't see the word "hardcore" mentioned :P

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>i, too, had a BIG problem with the "jocks" or whatever going to parties 
>when
>i was in high school. (Yuppy Boy and Ghetto Thug)

i seem to notice these types of people more than the people that dress up in 
full "candy regalia" for some reason.  and there seem to be a lot around 
lexington, i guess they would fit the stereotype "fraternity guy" or your 
basic abercrombie(costly) ad model.  as for my liking of them... i think 
this thred has certainly made me feel slightly more accepting of them, at 
least in the sense of them going to parties.  i guess my dislike of them 
comes from the fact that i see them at parties here on campus, i have to 
deal with them and their anti-rave sentiment, and i live w/ them. i am greek 
and i have no problem admitting to this or of being proud of this.  i am 
also a raver and have no problems admiting or being proud of this.  maybe 
that is just part of the whole growning up experience - learning how to 
accept people, what they do, why they do it and learning from these thing.
maybe i am just rambling... i dont know

btw-the jocks at my high school (dallas tx) were for the most part goons and 
abercrombie ads as well... hmmm...



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Full Spectrum is now open for bookings for Spring, Summer & Fall 2000

Dj's include

Angel Alanis
Luis Aguilera
Dj Gruve
Joshua Grant
Barbarella

extended 

Speed Demon
Bryan Zentz
Dj Sy
MC Storm
Dj Brisk
Marty McFly

for info email  djgruve@home.net



mike  / gruve
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:19:57 2000
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I started going to raves after college. I found them kinda kool. Of course 
the average age was about 20. 

Just thought you might care.

You probably don't...
... oh well.

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----- Original Message -----
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> I started going to raves after college. I found them kinda kool. Of course
> the average age was about 20.
>
> Just thought you might care.
>
> You probably don't...
> ... oh well.

phil your old skool
check phil out he's hardcore

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:26:38 2000
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In a message dated 02/21/1970, 3:47:03 PM, fergcore@earthlink.net writes:
<<Can't be everything if I don't see the word "hardcore" mentioned :P>>

Really...do you think the kids want to hear hardcore?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:29:03 2000
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Saturday, February 26th, 2000
       Indianapolis, Indiana

Organized Chaos proudly presents
     their first full-on one-off:

 D i R T Y 
L i T T L E 
S E C R E T 

We have a little secret to share with you!

And, we guarantee it's dirty!

Featuring-

GREG HAUS - Berlin/Chicago - Genius Insanity
    *   progressive house/trance
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ALEXi - Soviet Union - Mother Russia Records
    *   hard techno/acid techno
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SLATER HOGAN - Indy - Musique Boutique/Genius Insanity
    *   funky house/french house/deep house
CHOCOLATE: The Freaky AfroNaut - Earth - House of Babylon BROductions/The 
Pros (Chicago)
    *   tech-house/techno
K-STEP vs danDAVE - Indy - SubWarped Records/House of Babylon BROductions
    *   turntablism/tricknology/jump up/step-up/dark-step/tech-step
TAYLOR - Indy - Musique Boutique
    *   house
ISAMU - Indy - Free Agent
    *   dark-step/tech-step

$15 before midnight
$20 after midnight

The party will include a second room of tomorrow's up-and-coming DJ talent!

Sound - Log2
Lights - Project 7

For more information, please contact-
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The party will feature an after-hours 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:29:04 2000
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><<Can't be everything if I don't see the word "hardcore" mentioned :P>>
>
>Really...do you think the kids want to hear hardcore?


Who cares about "the kids"...I was talking about everything *I* want.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:38:33 2000
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I beginning to think that this was just a propaganda story to bring more attention to "rave" parties Daley is trying to stop in Chicago. But I could be wrong.

THE ABC News article
http://abcnews.go.com/local/wls/news/33350_2202000.html

Daley
http://w4.ci.chi.il.us./CAPS/AboutCPD/PressReleases/PressReleases99/PR991215.html


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:40:37 2000
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Hey guys,

I'm trying to get HEADROOM in to the States!

For those of you who know who they are,
please continue to read ahead.

Obviously, since this is an over-seas gig 
for them, Headroom is interested in 
doing a little mini-tour.

I'm trying to get as many promoters 
involved in their first appearance 
here as possible.  

If you are a promoter and you're interested
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HouseBabylon@aol.com

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:47:22 2000
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<snip>
with the drug "ecstasy" or other date rape drugs.

i never knew x was a "date rape" drug... but then again i dont use it so...

peace-
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:48:08 2000
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Im uns*bscribing (for good this time) but will still be at this address if 
any one wants to keep in touch.
thats all,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:48:32 2000
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, atomly wrote:

+What scene?

intentions

- nobility of
- humility of
- credibility of

regardless of the intent, realize that posts like this will be percieved
anyway they possibly can be... case and point, my "what do you mean by
"life"" post was percieved as me trying to be cute when, in fact, i was
being dead serious.

so once the point (if there really is one) has been made, each subsequent
time it's brought up becomes less effective... maybe even a little
annoying after awhile, as the rest of us are either used to it or tired of
it or need time to let this profound "what [fill in the blank]?" wisdom
sink in.  i think that also sums up what irks me about the DE9 tour.

is there really nothing else left to say?

variation helps a little but, in short posts like this,
there's not much to work with.

peace,
chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 22:52:25 2000
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From: "Ross Wolinsky" <riotnerd28@hotmail.com>
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i ended up at a frat party (unfortunately) a few months ago... several of 
them were dancing with glowsticks, and/or rolling. the times they are a 
changin...

-marauder


>From: "chad clary" <cellophane_808@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "chad clary" <cellophane_808@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [mw] high school "ravers" was superstars are to commercial
>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:54:09 EST
>
>
>>i, too, had a BIG problem with the "jocks" or whatever going to parties
>>when
>>i was in high school. (Yuppy Boy and Ghetto Thug)
>
>i seem to notice these types of people more than the people that dress up 
>in
>full "candy regalia" for some reason.  and there seem to be a lot around
>lexington, i guess they would fit the stereotype "fraternity guy" or your
>basic abercrombie(costly) ad model.  as for my liking of them... i think
>this thred has certainly made me feel slightly more accepting of them, at
>least in the sense of them going to parties.  i guess my dislike of them
>comes from the fact that i see them at parties here on campus, i have to
>deal with them and their anti-rave sentiment, and i live w/ them. i am 
>greek
>and i have no problem admitting to this or of being proud of this.  i am
>also a raver and have no problems admiting or being proud of this.  maybe
>that is just part of the whole growning up experience - learning how to
>accept people, what they do, why they do it and learning from these thing.
>maybe i am just rambling... i dont know
>
>btw-the jocks at my high school (dallas tx) were for the most part goons 
>and
>abercrombie ads as well... hmmm...
>
>
>
>peace-
>chad
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:16:30 2000
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ABC CHANNEL 7 NEWS
CHICAGO

Police Break Up Rave Party
Police break up a rave party early Sunday morning on the northwest side. It
happened at a nightclub in the 2000 block of West Belmont.

     Police took 62 teens into custody. They also recovered two tanks of
nitrous oxide, cocaine and marijuana, along with $2,000 in cash.

Correction

    During Sunday's 5 and 11 p.m. newscasts, ABC 7 incorrectly reported that
the raid took place at a nightclub called "XL." Police say the party
actually took place inside a building in the 2000 block of West Belmont. XL
was not involved. ABC 7 apologizes for the error.



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:16:47 2000
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jerry sed:
<<Let me get this straight...you have mad bills to pay...so you go clubbing
and buy everyone drinks...and then you can't wake up and go to this job
that you need to survive...the only one that should be bitching is your
boss...  Of all the things you bitch and complain about, don't you think
you should take responsibility on this one?
I still am,
Jerry>>

hulloooo? i wuz never told i had to work on saturday!
plus i only bought shotz for 3 people, the 3 people
responsible for hookin me up w/ free drinks @ red zone
previously (people that i owed)...plus, of all people,
jerry how did you miss the most important part...my
job ripped me off...they only paid me for 1 of the 3
weeks i worked!!...and what's really odd is that the
other person who was in my training class (who 
coincidentally is white & male), i just found out today
was paid the right amount, in addition he is getting
paid 60 cents more than me!!...like i said racial
inequality is very alive today in corporate amerikkka!
..go damn "da man"!!!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:20:18 2000
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:41:33 2000
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E isnt a date rape drug, i thought that the only real date rape drug was GHB 
or maybe some valium slipped into some vodka.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:42:44 2000
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At 17:25 21-2-00 -0500, you wrote:

>Really...do you think the kids want to hear hardcore?

Phil... Honestly... I have seldom met a crowd that was as enthusiastic 
about hardcore as when I played St. Louis last year.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:44:10 2000
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In a message dated 2/21/00 3:42:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, eye-d@gmx.net 
writes:

<< Phil... Honestly... I have seldom met a crowd that was as enthusiastic 
 about hardcore as when I played St. Louis last year. >>

 this kid is open minded to all ;p
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:48:34 2000
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Anything inebriating can be misused to weaken someone's perceptions and defenses. The emphasis
should be on "rape", not "drug".
As such, isn't it odd how they never mention alcohol?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 21 23:55:45 2000
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I'm BACK!

Mwahahahahahahahahaha.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 00:08:42 2000
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Fuck tha scene.. It's all about shitty expensive party's and drugs now, and
less about the music and the love behind the dance.  As far as I'm
concerened, the scene's DEAD.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 00:17:00 2000
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 00:23:21 2000
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Sheesh... for a group of people who preach about Peace, Love, Unity and 
Respect, you sure don't seem very accepting of new people at parties.

Talk about hypocrytical.

Instead of being angry that they're there, try and tell them what it's all 
about. Don't give up anyone for a lost cause until all routes have been 
attempted. If everyone gave up as easily as some of the people posting to 
this list do, we wouldn't have much of a "scene" at all.

   Zinc,
   Brennen

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SUPERSTARS of LOVE havent advertised EVER on the radio
for a RAVE in ST LOUIS!  The only time they have ever
had anything on the radio was for the Chemical Bros
show and a nightclub called Quazar back in '97.  They
did advertise for their Halloween show in Columbia on
a small radio station and got covered in the campus
newspaper although if you play the commercial
backwards you will hear subliminal messages
encouraging folks to freak out on acid.  Also,  Dr.
Lovestar and Mr. Pee Pee of the All Time High say the
best way to advertise is to give a girl with a big
mouth a good time in bed, so she'll tell all her
friends about it.  This message was brought to you by
a real raver who sold his soul to rock n roll and
thinks you should take your teddy bear and your stupid
e-tard address and stick it straight up your candy
ass.   - Ruby Bagonia onya   4-22-00 Stl

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you always see flyers advising us to bring our "dancin shoes" (i pack them 
next to my hugs and good vibes!).  that bird even sings about "dancin 
shoes" on VGT002.  so i was just wondering...

WHO THE HELL HAS FUCKING "DANCIN SHOES"?

i mean christ, does anyone really have shoes that were obtained for the 
sole (!) purpose of DANCING IN?!?!?  maybe i'm just being dumb.  hmph.

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>As soon as they started doing that, the make-up of the crowd
>really changed.

well dance in a 150 degree warehouse for a couple of hours, and tell me 
YOUR mascara doesn't run, honey!?!


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WOW.  who is within reasonable driving distance of suzi.  this woman needs 
oral sex, STAT!

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what's even more disturbing, is that thousands of young australians are 
attending these parties each week-end...

At 02:44 AM 2/21/00 -0600, you wrote:
>This sucks.
>
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>Subject: (GABBER) XTC
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>
>All Australians who read this shoud be prepared for the media onslaught this
>week due to the drug-induced death of a 25 year old 2 days ago at the HAPPY
>VALLEY festival (where Geoff Da Chef and I spun at also). On top of this,
>there was a 20 year old girl who went into a coma just after this death. The
>media beat ups have started already....
>
>fun fun fun...!
>
>MARK N
>Bloody Fist...
>
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where's the hardcore


>HUGE lineup TBA... techno, trance, house, drum n bass..
>everything you've been waiting for in a party...stay tuned


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ha!  "west virginia:  it's not just for ICP and NASCAR any more."

;)

At 06:37 PM 2/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Full Time Machine & LoveLab Present
>Gateway2: The Other Side
>Friday April 14th, 2000
>Morgantown, WV
>
>25,000sqft inside & 33,000sqft outside area with tent & plenty of
>parking
>
>
>THE LINE UP:
>
>John Acquaviva
>(Definitive Recordings, Canada)
>
>Ed Rush
>(Virus Recordings, UK)
>
>Gavin Hardkiss
>(Columbia Music, Sunburn, Planet Groove, SF)
>
>Robbie Hardkiss
>(Columbia Music, PB4CH, Sunburn, Planet Groove, SF)
>
>Future Cut
>(Renegade Hardware, UK)
>
>Kelly Reverb
>(Southside Reverb/ Loanstar / ESP-SUN,   Dallas)
>
>Panacea
>(Position Chrome / Planet Groove,  Germany)
>
>Danny Tha Wildchild
>(WildChild (Canvas / Strength / MCM , Chicago)
>
>East Coast Boogiemen
>(Splendid Production / Sol Brotherz / Full Time Machine, Richmond )
>
>Sine
>(Platinum, Bullet Proof, PA ­ Elite recordings, SF)
>
>Sage
>(Phunckateck Communications / Green Label  / Bulletproof,  SF)
>
>Product 19
>(House of Styles, Atomic, Pittsburgh)
>
>Bagel
>(Starbass23, TFC, Spun, Pittsburgh)
>
>Alaska
>(BulletProof, Spun, Pittsburgh)
>
>F8 & Psykofly
>(Efficient Productions, WV) & (Mantis Soundsystem, DC)
>
>&
>
>Art Penndragon, Michael & Teak
>(Full Time Machine & LoveLab, WV)
>
>(official After hours @ 123 Pleasant st, hosted by Efficient
>Productions)
>
>information ports:
>
>(304) 983-1900
>http://www.lovelab.com or
>http://www.lovelab.com/events/gateway2/index.html
>
>main flyers will be out by 2-26-00
>
>....hope to see ya there......


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what midget?

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Apparently the grass you've been smokin' :)


On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:10:10 -0600 chris ege <crege@students.wisc.edu>
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It's not my place to tell anyone why they're here/there/wherever. Can you imagine someone coming
up to you at your first rave and trying to preach to you about why you should be there? I may
have, no - probably would have, never gone back. I don't care for evangelists. Let them find their
own way, and ask questions as they see fit. 

Yes, it's been a long time. I mention this sometimes as a means of providing perspective, not for
glory or because it's even something to be proud of, at that. Just the facts, m'am. Old school or
new, I'm still *in* school and likely to remain there.
I have plenty to learn from these here whippersnappers, things I may have lost. Like enthusiasm.
It helps sometimes to see things through new eyes and softer lighting. 
Things go in cycles, and for all the worrying and bitching and gnashing-of-teeth, we move..
Sometimes forward, sometimes back.. Often laterally, I think. By fits & starts, surely. But this
*is* a movement. Of course it is not the only one. I just feel comfortable here.

About greener pastures; For innovation in electronic music, I don't think there is any place in
the world like Midwest North America.  This works to my advantage because "I like the techno sound
(hey!)". There are other places worth mentioning, but... Sorry, I'm not going to. ;p 
As for other regions, check out the average line-up on the other calendars. 

"It's dark, in here.. It's hot, in here.. I *like* it, here."


Well, sirs & madams, that is all for me, for now.

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Listen up Dickhead,

A, I DON'T SELL PUMPS!!!!  I sell an all Natural safe penile exercise
program that's being recommended by many doctors worldwide AND I'm going to
be soon featured in MensHealth Magazine, Mens Fitness, and Playboy, so you
can just go FUCK your self.  AND B, if it wasn't for my "stupid" penis
enlargement site, there would have been no Lazarus Project, the only fucking
decent party in this poor area in the past 2 years.  All I commented on was
how poor things have become and you have no right to attack me personally or
my business.  I am doing FAR more thing at the age of 21 then you EVER will,
so you can take that and shove it straight up your raver ASS!  Go take some
E and listen to some bad boy bill fruitcake.

-Infanz


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> >Fuck tha scene.. It's all about shitty expensive party's and drugs now,
and
> >less about the music and the love behind the dance.  As far as I'm
> >concerened, the scene's DEAD.
> >
> >-Loco Grande PeePee
>
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Who the fuck is screamin' that, G?

>Sheesh... for a group of people who preach about Peace, Love, Unity and
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Ok everyone.. here is another date check.. Aug. 12th..
Let me know.. in the Midwest area.. not cal or ny... 

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TIMOTHY FOWLER wrote:
> 
> Ok everyone.. here is another date check.. Aug. 12th..
> Let me know.. in the Midwest area.. not cal or ny...
> 
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We're doing our Migration 3 party.  Check www.syquil.com, it's already
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Sorry about the 12th.. everyone make shure to go to
Migration 3 on Aug 12th.. Let me know about the 3rd of
aug.. That could work...

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>>>It's not my place to tell anyone why they're here/there/wherever. Can you 
imagine someone coming
up to you at your first rave and trying to preach to you about why you should 
be there? I may
have, no - probably would have, never gone back. I don't care for 
evangelists. Let them find their
own way, and ask questions as they see fit.<<<


You misunderstood me, my friend... instead of cursing the newcomers for 
'invading the scene,' welcome them and show them what it's about. NOT "preach 
to [them] about why [they] should be there.." What I want to know is, what 
did all these ravers (who now rag on the newcomers) feel at their first rave? 
Everyone's had a first time. I remember the first party I went to... some 
girl came up to me and gave me a little pendant she had made, told me to have 
a nice night, and left me feeling pretty good. To this very day that's part 
of why I attend. If raves should be anything, they should be an event of 
acceptance. (aside from pounding orgies of movement!)

    Tilch,
     Brennen

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Seeing all this talk from Timothy about trying to pick a party date made me
realize that we need to get our ravey butts in gear and pick a date for
this thing.  I've already talked to someone and we have a pretty good place
for the after-party...we just need to pick a date to go to KI.  Opening day
for them is April 15th.

SO.  Ideas?  It would be nice if it could be done on a Tuesday, or
Wednesday, or Thursday...cuz when I would go to the park those days last
summer there would literally be hardly anyone there.  But I understand if
this isn't feasible.

July 22nd is a definite no no weekend cuz I'm moving that weekend. :P

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It's house party time again.

Friday, Feb. 25th, 9PM

The Sunshine Ministry
814 W. Clark St.
Urbana, IL 61801

Ken Meier-techno
Matt Positive-happy hardcore, UK hardcore
DJ Impact-house w/ scratching
Mark Nagel-deep house
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Personally, I hate DJing hardcore outside of my bedroom, because I'm
nervous and think everyone will hate it. But last time I played a house
party full of drunken non-ravers, they just kept on dancing when the beat
went from 140 to 170 and even up to about 210. After that the crowd
started to thin.

But they weren't scared of the noise.

Matt

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Eye-D wrote:

> At 17:25 21-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >Really...do you think the kids want to hear hardcore?
> 
> Phil... Honestly... I have seldom met a crowd that was as enthusiastic 
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i think the exercise made you move alot of that blood away from your
brain. 
-choppie, the small brown penis boyee!:) i fear having an enormous penis.
i wouldn't want my eye poked out!


On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Advanced Health and Nutrition wrote:

> Listen up Dickhead,
> 
> A, I DON'T SELL PUMPS!!!!  I sell an all Natural safe penile exercise
> program that's being recommended by many doctors worldwide AND I'm going to
> be soon featured in MensHealth Magazine, Mens Fitness, and Playboy, so you
> can just go FUCK your self.  AND B, if it wasn't for my "stupid" penis
> enlargement site, there would have been no Lazarus Project, the only fucking
> decent party in this poor area in the past 2 years.  All I commented on was
> how poor things have become and you have no right to attack me personally or
> my business.  I am doing FAR more thing at the age of 21 then you EVER will,
> so you can take that and shove it straight up your raver ASS!  Go take some
> E and listen to some bad boy bill fruitcake.
> 
> -Infanz
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Schvenig <skatter@zombieworld.com>
> To: Insecure About My Schlong <juno@ccp.com>
> Cc: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [mw] the scene bla bla
> 
> 
> > >Fuck tha scene.. It's all about shitty expensive party's and drugs now,
> and
> > >less about the music and the love behind the dance.  As far as I'm
> > >concerened, the scene's DEAD.
> > >
> > >-Loco Grande PeePee
> >
> >
> > Okay, then unsub from the list.  I'm sure you can occupy yourself quite
> nicely with your faulty, dangerous penis-pump things.
> >
> > *note to all:  for those w/ short memories, or those who just subbed, this
> is the guy who was peddling crazy dick enlargers a few weeks ago.  he is a
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Ha ha!  Yeah, me too,...............  ummmm.......  I do a lot of
MAINTENANCE exercises though..  =P

godislove
-Infanz


----- Original Message -----
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>
> i think the exercise made you move alot of that blood away from your
> brain.
> -choppie, the small brown penis boyee!:) i fear having an enormous penis.
> i wouldn't want my eye poked out!
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Advanced Health and Nutrition wrote:
>
> > Listen up Dickhead,
> >
> > A, I DON'T SELL PUMPS!!!!  I sell an all Natural safe penile exercise
> > program that's being recommended by many doctors worldwide AND I'm going
to
> > be soon featured in MensHealth Magazine, Mens Fitness, and Playboy, so
you
> > can just go FUCK your self.  AND B, if it wasn't for my "stupid" penis
> > enlargement site, there would have been no Lazarus Project, the only
fucking
> > decent party in this poor area in the past 2 years.  All I commented on
was
> > how poor things have become and you have no right to attack me
personally or
> > my business.  I am doing FAR more thing at the age of 21 then you EVER
will,
> > so you can take that and shove it straight up your raver ASS!  Go take
some
> > E and listen to some bad boy bill fruitcake.
> >
> > -Infanz
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Eric Schvenig <skatter@zombieworld.com>
> > To: Insecure About My Schlong <juno@ccp.com>
> > Cc: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [mw] the scene bla bla
> >
> >
> > > >Fuck tha scene.. It's all about shitty expensive party's and drugs
now,
> > and
> > > >less about the music and the love behind the dance.  As far as I'm
> > > >concerened, the scene's DEAD.
> > > >
> > > >-Loco Grande PeePee
> > >
> > >
> > > Okay, then unsub from the list.  I'm sure you can occupy yourself
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> > >
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I don't really know that many people who are "scared" of hardcore

jester


mattdemon <demmon@students.uiuc.edu> wrote: 

Personally, I hate DJing hardcore outside of my bedroom, because I'm
nervous and think everyone will hate it. But last time I played a house
party full of drunken non-ravers, they just kept on dancing when the beat
went from 140 to 170 and even up to about 210. After that the crowd
started to thin.

But they weren't scared of the noise.

Matt

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Eye-D wrote:

> At 17:25 21-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >Really...do you think the kids want to hear hardcore?
> 
> Phil... Honestly... I have seldom met a crowd that was as enthusiastic 
> about hardcore as when I played St. Louis last year.
> 
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> 
> Personally, I hate DJing hardcore outside of my bedroom, because I'm
> nervous and think everyone will hate it. But last time I played a house
> party full of drunken non-ravers, they just kept on dancing when the beat
> went from 140 to 170 and even up to about 210. After that the crowd
> started to thin.
> 
> But they weren't scared of the noise.
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Eye-D wrote:
> 
> > At 17:25 21-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
> > 
> > >Really...do you think the kids want to hear hardcore?
> > 
> > Phil... Honestly... I have seldom met a crowd that was as enthusiastic 
> > about hardcore as when I played St. Louis last year.
> > 
> > /Eye-D - St. Louis Hardcore Mafia
> > 
> > ---
> > http://www.gabber.org/eye-d/
> > 
> > Currently available:
> > * Eye-D - Evil Eye / Enemies [Def Wish #3]
> > * Eye-D - Down From the Waist Up [Ghetto Safari #6]
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you haven't seen a room full of rolling crack ravers empty in under 60
seconds, have you?

i swear, even the words "the cops are here" doesn't clear out a room that
fast....but i watched jethrox do it with hardcore at ICM

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no i just don't know any rolling crack ravers, =Ð 

your fav. trance dj
jester

Pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote: 
> 
> you haven't seen a room full of rolling crack ravers empty in under 60
> seconds, have you?
> 
> i swear, even the words "the cops are here" doesn't clear out a room that
> fast....but i watched jethrox do it with hardcore at ICM
> 
> pixie
> 
> 
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 03:37:01 2000
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btw, im no fucking trance dj!
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This one sure does. And I don't mean "happy", either.

Yep, Kurt's set at ICM was fun.. He played Aphex Twin - Isopropanol.. Sounded so. damn. good.
loud.
Then he played "Quoth" in Louisville. Good man. Little did I know it was to be the highlight of
the night, musically. *Musically*. In NO other possible way. Heh.  

(Moment of silence)

Woo, child.




/me takes a deep breath..

"TRANCE . . . ..."

aw, never mind. 

                                                     Good night,


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In a message dated 2/21/00 7:23:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
Digitlstalin@aol.com writes:

> 
>  Sheesh... for a group of people who preach about Peace, Love, Unity and 
>  Respect, you sure don't seem very accepting of new people at parties.
>  

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From: Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net>
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Respect yo self and others..there is not need to call people dick heads a=
round
here man...respect is burning.....


Fuego :)

no disrespect at all...





chopstiks <mkhemma@orion.it.luc.edu> wrote:

i think the exercise made you move alot of that blood away from your
brain. =

-choppie, the small brown penis boyee!:) i fear having an enormous penis.=

i wouldn't want my eye poked out!


On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Advanced Health and Nutrition wrote:

> Listen up Dickhead,
> =

> A, I DON'T SELL PUMPS!!!!  I sell an all Natural safe penile exercise
> program that's being recommended by many doctors worldwide AND I'm goin=
g to
> be soon featured in MensHealth Magazine, Mens Fitness, and Playboy, so =
you
> can just go FUCK your self.  AND B, if it wasn't for my "stupid" penis
> enlargement site, there would have been no Lazarus Project, the only
fucking
> decent party in this poor area in the past 2 years.  All I commented on=
 was
> how poor things have become and you have no right to attack me personal=
ly
or
> my business.  I am doing FAR more thing at the age of 21 then you EVER
will,
> so you can take that and shove it straight up your raver ASS!  Go take =
some
> E and listen to some bad boy bill fruitcake.
> =

> -Infanz
> =

> =

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Schvenig <skatter@zombieworld.com>
> To: Insecure About My Schlong <juno@ccp.com>
> Cc: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [mw] the scene bla bla
> =

> =

> > >Fuck tha scene.. It's all about shitty expensive party's and drugs n=
ow,
> and
> > >less about the music and the love behind the dance.  As far as I'm
> > >concerened, the scene's DEAD.
> > >
> > >-Loco Grande PeePee
> >
> >
> > Okay, then unsub from the list.  I'm sure you can occupy yourself qui=
te
> nicely with your faulty, dangerous penis-pump things.
> >
> > *note to all:  for those w/ short memories, or those who just subbed,=

this
> is the guy who was peddling crazy dick enlargers a few weeks ago.  he i=
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> pathetic moron.  that is all.
> >
> >
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the whole idea of what a rave is, is really beyond me at this point. I mean, 
I know its a bunch of people dancing to a DJ in a big hot sweaty building but 
the culture is in a rut right now.
For so long I was this happy-bouncy candykid, completely electropop. But 
that's not who I am anymore. I still like the candy, I like the beads, but 
the whole overboard with pacifiers and that seems like bullshit. And what's 
more is that it's become so much about the fashion. Maybe I'm just in a mood 
right now but I think I might have something here.
I think the rave culture should take lessons from the punk culture. Rave 
culture needs to have a cause. "What about PLUR?" you may ask. Well PLUR can 
kiss my ass. Peace Love Unity and Respect are great ideas but it started out 
as more of a suggestion for ediquette than a way of life. The kindergarten 
ideas are making me feel like the idea of PLUR is a really shallow notion. 
The world has its problems, running around shouting PLUR isn't going to make 
them get better. People need to do something about it. See, punks have 
anarchy as their cause. But it's really not much better for them because 
anarchy has become a catch phrase today too. What the hell, it's been one 
since the 80s.

What's my main point? Activism. Why? I dunno, I'm in a mood. Nevermind. 
disregard this letter. I'm just uptight and wanna get laid.

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BO!

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THING.  pass it on to at least 50 other nerds or my boy that lives on your 
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where do you buy that JOHNNY BLAZE shit at?  fuckin BIG DADDY's in columbus 
doesn't have it, and man if they don't, i don't know who 
would!  :P  anyway, don't ask...my gf wants this hoodie she saw in some 
other town...doh...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 06:21:39 2000
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i gotta point out events like Delta put on by MadLove ( http://i.am/madlove
), bi-weekly asking for food donations for a food bank.  Very cool.  Also,
i've only been to a few events, but people who attend Delta events don't
trash it like attendees to other parties.  It always looks more or less like
it did when it started - i for one was impressed.  It made me think "wow,
people that go to parties really know where 'home' is...and know how to take
care of it."  But i wonder if they really know why they act the way they do.

PLUR starts at home, and it starts treating YOURSELF with the Peace Love
Unity and Respect that you deserve.  Azure, i can agree with you that it can
be taken out of hand, but as long as one of the people you're PLURing is
YOU, i think it works out fine.  PLUR has nothing to do with being passive,
its all about taking what you and your friends deserve from life without
taking anything AWAY FROM anyone.  The goal is to end up with more than the
sum of the parts, and you KNOW that sometimes... IT WORKS!  It works
everytime you meet someone and trade #'s 'cuz they're cool...and everytime
you crack a smile when you see someone doing something you did for the first
time.

Somewhat related, i read a book on Zen Driving (
http://search.borders.com/fcgi-bin/db2www/search/search.d2w/Details?&mediaTy
pe=Book&prodID=2611464 ) several years ago.  One of the most meaningful
things mentioned in the book (IMHO) was something said about other drivers
and what to do if you encounter someone that just seems intent on fucking
you up (in this book, like a drunk driver, or someone experiencing road
rage).  I wish i could find my copy to get this exactly, but basically, it
said that you should think of yourself as a red blood cell among millions of
other red blood cells, and one red blood cell doesn't let another get it off
course...they just keep moving forward, calmly moving away from the
disturbance, keeping the path it chose.  SO if someone if screwing with your
scene or making it hard for you to do what you want to do, be the red blood
cell...and continue on your quest, like you know you should be.

good discussion so far,
-t

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 11:24 PM
To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject: [mw] Rut


the whole idea of what a rave is, is really beyond me at this point. I mean,

I know its a bunch of people dancing to a DJ in a big hot sweaty building
but 
the culture is in a rut right now.
For so long I was this happy-bouncy candykid, completely electropop. But 
that's not who I am anymore. I still like the candy, I like the beads, but 
the whole overboard with pacifiers and that seems like bullshit. And what's 
more is that it's become so much about the fashion. Maybe I'm just in a mood

right now but I think I might have something here.
I think the rave culture should take lessons from the punk culture. Rave 
culture needs to have a cause. "What about PLUR?" you may ask. Well PLUR can

kiss my ass. Peace Love Unity and Respect are great ideas but it started out

as more of a suggestion for ediquette than a way of life. The kindergarten 
ideas are making me feel like the idea of PLUR is a really shallow notion. 
The world has its problems, running around shouting PLUR isn't going to make

them get better. People need to do something about it. See, punks have 
anarchy as their cause. But it's really not much better for them because 
anarchy has become a catch phrase today too. What the hell, it's been one 
since the 80s.

What's my main point? Activism. Why? I dunno, I'm in a mood. Nevermind. 
disregard this letter. I'm just uptight and wanna get laid.

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The Chicago Police Department is issuing an alert to community residents to 
be aware of the dangers of DJ-GRUVE, a new, powerful, yet popular drug 
found at young adult parties known as "Rave" parties. This drug can cause 
serious injury and even death when ingested. DJ-GRUVE should not be 
confused with the drug "ecstasy" or other date rape drugs.



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----- Original Message -----
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> The Chicago Police Department is issuing an alert to community residents
to
> be aware of the dangers of DJ-GRUVE, a new, powerful, yet popular drug
> found at young adult parties known as "Rave" parties. This drug can cause
> serious injury and even death when ingested. DJ-GRUVE should not be
> confused with the drug "ecstasy" or other date rape drugs.

i heard it crushes  you with it's mechanical butt checks of doom


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>i swear, even the words "the cops are here" doesn't clear out a room that
>fast....but i watched jethrox do it with hardcore at ICM

but at 2.1200 they seemed to swarm... and that one guy kept stepping on my 
toes.

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> i mean christ, does anyone really have shoes that were obtained for the
> sole (!) purpose of DANCING IN?!?!?  maybe i'm just being dumb.  hmph.

    Yes, as a matter of fact I purchase "skater" shoes because I think
they're the easiest to dance in. I could care less what I walk in, I have a
car and work in a cubicle, so I don't do much walking, but when I'm dancing
those damn shoes better be up to the task... (michael you've seen me dance,
at further, so have a few others on here.) I used to wear steel toed boots
because they were good in the winter, gave me an excuse to wear pants in the
summer and provided bodily protection for my skinny ass all year long. Then
I got into dancing, and while dancing in steel toed boots is good for
getting your legs in shape, you suddenly find you can move like the wind
without 'em... =] So yeah, my shoes are dancing shoes, but no I don't know
too many people who have shoes which are used exclusively for dancing...

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just need to be brought up again

i bring you:

http://www.bluegrass.net/~pixie/puretrunkass.jpg

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My sites not a scam, and next time I'm at a party I'll make it a point to
pull you aside and "show you" personally what my exercises can do....  Keep
throwing your shit at me and you won't get in at our next party.....  =)
And I stand behind EVERYTHING I've said that you've just listed.  Whatever
you think I do for a living, you are obviously mistaken.  I have gotten more
thank you letters in the past month then you have teeth without cavities, so
I could give a rat's ass what you think.  It's not easy running a
multi-million dollar business (yes, I said MULTI-MILLION), but it IS fun,
and part of that fun is putting little punk fuck's like yourself in your
place who obviously don't know who they are talking to.  Spirit Productions
threw The Lazarus Project which set the scene bigger than it could have EVER
been on it;s own, and we WILL do it again MANY more times.  We've done more
for this puke scene then you or anyone else EVER will, so back the fuck off
me and my business, the only one you're putting down is yourself.  Your
ignorance shows..  Bad Boy Bill....., HA!  What a j-j-j-j-j-j-j-joke....
Pfffffffffffffffff....

-Infanz




----- Original Message -----
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To: Advanced Health and Nutrition <juno@ccp.com>
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> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Advanced Health and Nutrition" <juno@ccp.com>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:08:56 -0600
>
> >I am doing FAR more thing at the age of 21 then you EVER will,
> >so you can take that and shove it straight up your raver ASS!  Go >take
some
> >E and listen to some bad boy bill fruitcake.
> >
> >-Infanz
>
> OK, I'll admit it.  You've now officially pissed me off.  I was listening
to bad boy bill at the time I read your post, so I already took care of that
one.  As far as "doing more thing[s] at the age of 21" than I am?  That's up
for contention.  Since I was pissed with nothing better to do, I decided to
root through my trash and see exactly what you've been up to.
>
> So, without any further wait, here is the sad, pathetic saga of the
"Advanced Health and Nutrition" guy, a.k.a Brandon Reece:
>
> Date:  8 January
> Subject: [none]
>
> This was brandon's first post to mw-raves.  In it, he announced he was
looking for people to run banners advertising his "Penile Fitness" site, and
it's mirror "Penile Enlargement."  Evidently, Brandon didn't understand the
concept of not spamming a raves mailing list with useless bullshit.  This
post was largely ignored.
>
> Date:  29 January
> Subject: [mw] free
>
> Brandon's second post, it would also be his last as a serious
penile-enlargement pitch man.  He tried to pawn his $39.95 "Advanced Health
Manual" by using a fake testimonial from "a very happy guy in MN."  The guy
in MN cited a "lack of confidence problems with [his] 'tool.'"
>
> This post had one reply, which was from Ignatius J. Reilly.  Reilly acted
as the lone voice of reason, asking the spammer to politely shut the fuck
up.
>
> Date: 1 February
> Subject: [mw] Fuck raves, ravers, E, K, Acid, and Kansas City!!!!!
>
> This is the first of what later would be known as the "bitter" posts.
Pathetically trying to incite a flame war, Reece informed the list of this:
>
> >You all suck, in 5 months everyone on here will be gone and 2,000 >new
idiots will be posting lame ass shit, so why don't you all go >to hell!!
>
> Coincidentally, this was also the beginning of his "sneaky" stage:  he
signed the message "Pedro the Janitor."  Not surprisingly, his email address
remained the same... :)
>
> Date:  4 February
> Subject:  [mw] Extacy shrank my Dick!! Help!
>
> Again Reece decides to pitch his dick enlargement scam.  This time he
moves away from hispanic pseudonyms, choosing instead to call himself "Druid
the Fornicator."  I'm pretty sure no one on the list bought anything from
him.
>
> Date:  9 February
> Subject:  [mw] KC KIDS: Raves suck, Candy Kids suck, and Janky Parties
Suck!!!
>
> Apparently angered at the lukewarm response to his "natural penile
enlargement,"  Reece again resorts to simple flaming.  This time, he
announces that "the dirty-ass scene SUCKS!!!"  He signs the post "raver
destructo-bot."
>
> Date:  16 February
> Subject:  [mw] Kansas City Raves SUCK! $15 for bullsh!t
>
> Whew, another beautifully written piece of prose!  Uh-oh, he announces
that "If this is it, I'm done..."  Sadly, we aren't even close to seeing him
leave. Also, this is the first post he signs "Loco Grande Cocko."
>
> Date:  19 February
> Subject:  [mw] Why are all ravers dirty???
>
> As "Loco Grande PeePee" (i guess "cocko" just didn't have that ring to
it...), Reece declares that "all ravers smell like a cross between candy and
armpits."
>
> Thus concludes the sprawling tapestry of bullshit that Mr. Reece has so
intricately woven.  I, for one, would like to congratulate him on being a
thoroughly useless addition to the human race.
>
> Keep reaching for that rainbow, Brandon!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 07:13:29 2000
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i have a question.  how do you legally search people at the door to an 
event.  there was a big stink last year here at school about being students 
being searched prior to entering football games.  what happened was a former 
state trooper wrote the paper stating that this was not legal... the 
searches stopped.
the reason i ask this is some friends of mine threw a party last weekend 
(kegger, not rave) and some goons showed up sporting the latest in firearm 
technology.  they want to throw another party but are worried about this 
happening again... something about people and their house being shot up - i 
dont know...

peace-
chad

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 07:20:48 2000
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does anyone else have this problem:
while i am reading my mail from the list(s) and deleting posts that i dont 
want/need, hotmail randomly decides to not show any of my mail.  the 
inbox/folder count suddenly reads at zero.  this has happened several times 
and i have contacted support and they have fixed it, but it get really 
annoying really fast.  all the messages i have saved dont show up so i cant 
even reference them.   grrr....

ps - pat "i like to answer jungle questions" hit me back plz

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heh . . . some funny shit from the Spike & Mike realm
    http://www.beyondgrandpa.com/lounge/cartoons.htm
    http://www.ifilm.com/main.taf?function=spike&

out!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 07:32:13 2000
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>A, I DON'T SELL PUMPS!!!!  I sell an all Natural safe penile exercise
>program that's being recommended by many doctors worldwide AND I'm going to
>be soon featured in MensHealth Magazine, Mens Fitness, and Playboy, so you
>can just go FUCK your self.  AND B, if it wasn't for my "stupid" penis
>enlargement site, there would have been no Lazarus Project, the only 
>fucking
>decent party in this poor area in the past 2 years.  All I commented on was
>how poor things have become and you have no right to attack me personally 
>or
>my business.  I am doing FAR more thing at the age of 21 then you EVER 
>will,
>so you can take that and shove it straight up your raver ASS!  Go take some
>E and listen to some bad boy bill fruitcake.

hey, even >I< like bad boy bill.

basically, what i'm trying to say is:  fuck off, you whiny, insecure, yet so 
full-of-yourself, name-dropping corporate whore.  see if you can grow 
yourself a little self-esteem along your superb road to success as well.

RAVE ON!  PLUR!

...........................................................
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...........................................................
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arrived. The weapon at that point was emptied," he added.
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anyone got a URL for any site that has info on the party in chicago 
this coming saturday?

cheers
: jsn

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 07:33:20 2000
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http://members.home.net/djgruve/lit.htm

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 07:41:02 2000
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what is the song in the VW commercial that came out last year where 
everything is moving in time w/ the music until the water splashes on the 
windshield?  for some reason that is stuck in my head.

peace-
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Man, Chicago is just going down in flames....
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Subject: [mw] Good ol XL


>ABC CHANNEL 7 NEWS
>CHICAGO
>
>Police Break Up Rave Party
>Police break up a rave party early Sunday morning on the northwest side. It
>happened at a nightclub in the 2000 block of West Belmont.
>
>     Police took 62 teens into custody. They also recovered two tanks of
>nitrous oxide, cocaine and marijuana, along with $2,000 in cash.
>
>Correction
>
>    During Sunday's 5 and 11 p.m. newscasts, ABC 7 incorrectly reported
that
>the raid took place at a nightclub called "XL." Police say the party
>actually took place inside a building in the 2000 block of West Belmont. XL
>was not involved. ABC 7 apologizes for the error.
>
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haha, Mo Gear in PB has it!
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Subject: [mw] for all you thug-wannabe half-raver types


>where do you buy that JOHNNY BLAZE shit at?  fuckin BIG DADDY's in columbus
>doesn't have it, and man if they don't, i don't know who
>would!  :P  anyway, don't ask...my gf wants this hoodie she saw in some
>other town...doh...
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
>michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
>kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
>24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
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K... just my 2 cents here, bein newer to the scene and whatnot... I would 
like you all to know that not everyone is like these candy kids. My two best 
friends and I have been driving many hours just to go to parties, and yes, I 
admit, we rolled at the first two, but now we are much more comfortable with 
the scene and whatnot... Our first party together was Canned beats in Omaha 
(I had been to a couple Omaha parties before, where I had been sober and 
still had massive fun.) We all rolled, cuz they were a bit uncomfortable, 
and hadn't experience what PLUR really means. They were self conscience 
(SP?) and weren't havin a lot of fun. Adam, (yes its really his name, led to 
confusion at first :]) is a really shy guy who thinks he cannot dance, once 
he was rollin, he found that he could, and now he does it without the kick 
of a little E. We all found that it doesn't really matter what you look like 
when you are dancing, as long as you are havin fun, who cares. Also, no 
matter how good you look when you're dancin, theres always someone who looks 
better, somewhere. Haley got a bracelet and a backrub from a really nice 
candy girl, which made her feel really special, and enhanced her night 
incredibly. After going sober at Richie Hawtin last saturday, we decided 
together that we were sober from now on. Not everyone is comfortable with 
their body and dancing in front of people, for some, E is what helps them 
get over their fears and really have fun. Not sayin its required for a good 
time at all, just helps smooth the edges for a first timer. I also have 
friends that refuse to roll at parties, but always go just to pick up E, 
they aren't even into the music or anything, and it really pisses me off. 
I'm tryin to get them to accept certain things, but they are really closed 
minded. Oh well, just though I'd get this off my chest, I've been readin all 
these rants and keepin my mouth shut, but I feel it needed to be said. Feel 
free to agree, disagree or flame me if you want to, I believe in everyones 
right to an opinion, including mine. Peace all and hope we can just get 
along and have fun, isn't that the original reason and the deep down heart 
of why we rave?!?!?!?!?

Thanks for readin this far if you still are...
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in my opinion, it's about time for an all out net party.

nick, our beloved calendar admin is willing to hold the function at his
home. we're gonna talk a bit, and let you know more details.

then i'm going to lick him up and down till he says stop.

*smooches*,
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I will soon NEVER leave my house.



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>>DJ-GRUVE should not be confused with the drug "ecstasy" or other date rape 
>>drugs.

Since when has MDMA been considered a date-rape drug?!?!?  Obviously, 
whoever termed this phrase never tried having sex while rolling.  :)

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Hrm, I'm a little surprised that there's been only one post about this party
as I saw so many of you folks out in Iowa City this Sat.  I guess I don't
feel that I can give a real unbiased account of this party since I was
working at it, but hey, we'll give it a go.

Every set I heard (or heard thru the walls as I got to work the door for
several hours) was great....Missugah, Clark Warner, Theorum, Scott Stone,
and of course Richie Hawtin.  I hope you guys liked all the various displays
that were up....the artwork and the other multi-media displays....it took
quite a long time to set all this up, and it was something that I had never
seen at a party before.  In case you didn't know, all the video projections
on the big screen were being mixed live....they had like 7 VCR's hooked up
on the balcony plus cameras on the crowd and the dj's all running thru
different channels that they were mixing together.

Working the door was the job from hell since we were allowing in and outs.
Constant flows from everywhere, massive chaos, and the University was
requiring that we check everyone's bags each time they left and came
back....they're real strict about the no alcohol/weapons thing, and told us
not to allow any open containers back in, a few people ruin it all for the
rest of us I guess.  Yeah, the water was expensive and some of the rules
sucked, but when the University pays for the whole damn thing (almost) and
you get to see Richie for $15 I guess you have to follow their rules.

Overall I thought the party went off well...the place was a little trashed
and people were sneaking around to areas they weren't supposed to be in
("Richie, will you sign my shirt?"  *gags* I get so sick of that shit, I
mean, hey, he's a person, not a rockstar), but I still had a good time.  I
was completely exhausted by the end though as by 5 I had been there non-stop
for almost 18 hours, but hey, we all survive.

I would be interested to hear you guys' thoughts on the whole thing.

Koog ~~ Tracy
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http://www.boogietribe.com/index2.html

jsn111 wrote:

> anyone got a URL for any site that has info on the party in chicago
> this coming saturday?
>
> cheers
> : jsn
>
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I hear that...we live in a beautiful time to be a gear
geek...We're at the dawn of the computer revolution
and with it, soft synths, samplers, and drum machines
are becoming bigger better and faster.  On the harware
front, we have the Alesis Andromedia and the Korg
MS-2000 coming out this year.  Also, FM synths are
ultra cheap and becoming cheaper (Example:  FS1R's
selling for $400!!!).  Smaller companies like Waldorf,
Technosaurus, Doepfer, and FutureRetro are making many
innovations and sending a wake-up call to all the big
manufacturers as to what we want in our synths! 
WooHoo!

It's good to be a gearhead...

--Will

"Now you just press a button and you're the Chemical
Bros."  --Someone on Analogue Heaven (forgot the
source...Kultbox, maybe?)

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> I will soon NEVER leave my house.
> 
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> http://www.propellerheads.se/reason/index.htm
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> what's even more disturbing, is that thousands of young australians are 
> attending these parties each week-end...

...two of them are now dead.


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Good day from the faderwars.com camp.

                  http://www.faderwars.com

The last two weeks were filled with many, many votes......and in the end, 
Kia came out on top.  He won over Xylok by a total of 17 votes.
Good job to both DJ's and Faderwars thanks you.

THIS WEEK!!
This week we have another little battle for you...
The Syndicate out of VA are up against DJ Mind Mechanic.

Their styles are a little different, but the mixes are both tight as all 
hell and that is what we are really voting on here anyways right?

So check both of them out and vote on your favorite.

**********Featured Selectors********
We still have Daniels mix, "Payback" which is full of the freshest runnin' 
tracks......and added this week we have the ragga selection by Jeremy 
(me)...Check both of them out and you will not be disappointed!

later
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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> hulloooo? i wuz never told i had to work on saturday!
> plus i only bought shotz for 3 people, the 3 people
> responsible for hookin me up w/ free drinks @ red zone
> previously (people that i owed)

well then quit bitching about your money situation!  when duckets aren't
plentiful, I spend a lot of time brown bagging, biking and *not going out*.
Bars are the absolute worst place to go.

> ...plus, of all people,
> jerry how did you miss the most important part...my
> job ripped me off...they only paid me for 1 of the 3
> weeks i worked!!

that's a normal practice to have a two-week pay lag...it's so designed for when
you leave that place, you'll still have two weeks of pay to help you
transition.  Ask about that kind of shit when you get the job so that we don't
have to hear you whine.

> ...and what's really odd is that the
> other person who was in my training class (who
> coincidentally is white & male), i just found out today
> was paid the right amount, in addition he is getting
> paid 60 cents more than me!!...like i said racial
> inequality is very alive today in corporate amerikkka!
> ..go damn "da man"!!!

perhaps he's more qualified than you, or perhaps he had higher previous
salaries coming in...99% of the time, that's the reason for wage
discrepencies.  It's happened to me, and I'm white and male.  Matter of fact,
one time it was this hare-lipped retarded looking asian who was getting $1.50
more an hour than I, and I found out it was because of what I said...plus he
was a hard-ball negotiator.  I didn't sweat it though, I just outperformed him
and then I had nothing to bitch about.

I'm sick of this line of reasoning anyways...it's tough for all of us, but it's
rarely a matter of race.  It's have and have-nots issue; people with the money
exploit and degrade the people without the money...that's life.

But in your case, I think that your attitude might be what's fucking you up, if
you just decided that you would out perform your coworkers, eventually
management would see you as more valuable and treat you as such.  If you're
always looking for evidence of mistreatment, then you're going to find it
because that's the way the mind works.

But if you're absolutely sure it's a race thing, then get a lawyer and sue for
discrimination...otherwise beg your moms for pity, cause we frankly don't
care.  We're just a mail-list, get it in perspective and scrape yourself up
some dignity.  No respectable person begs a mail-list for pity.

...gregori


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>No respectable person begs a mail-list for pity.

Let alone make sure he turns around EVERY SINGLE POST he replies to into
some boring, non-related bullshit regarding his own life.

*yawn*


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 16:19:59 2000
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Uh-oh... yer all in for it now...

>>but the culture is in a rut right now.<<

I couldn't agree with this more. But if we look at what fueled the first 
raves, we see the basic ideas for how today's parties can be reworked. When I 
dream of raves, I dream of fierce, tribal, foot-stomping movement where it 
doesn't matter who or what the fuck you are to anyone. I'd like to see raves 
become the ultimate level playing field, a place where you can find *anyone* 
who just needs to expend energy to music that quickens the pace of your 
heart, squeezes your soul. The focus should move away from some kind of 
shallow idea of who's cool and who's not, and move towards the ideals of 
acceptance and a passion to know all kinds of people. All bullshit can be 
checked at the door, please. Furthermore, this message should be made clear 
and defended completely. For a night, this party should be anarchic territory 
where anything goes so long as one doesn't try to force anything on anyone 
else. The promoters who are just doing this for the money or for the fame of 
it can kiss my ass, cause it comes through in the party. The "cause," or 
ultimate goal, if you need one, is to eliminate the prejudgement of others. 
How is this accomplished? Through setting the example. Wouldn't it be nice if 
raves for once were portrayed by journalists as the stage for a 
forward-thinking World and people *hell bent* on peace? The hippies had it 
all wrong: you don't attain world harmony by sitting together in a field. You 
attain it by making the world uncomfortable for those who seek to disturb 
that harmony. 

I have much more to say, but that's enough... 

    Qache',
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this is SO right with what i'm thinking...does anyone disagree?
-t

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Uh-oh... yer all in for it now...

>>but the culture is in a rut right now.<<

I couldn't agree with this more. But if we look at what fueled the first 
raves, we see the basic ideas for how today's parties can be reworked. When
I 
dream of raves, I dream of fierce, tribal, foot-stomping movement where it 
doesn't matter who or what the fuck you are to anyone. I'd like to see raves

become the ultimate level playing field, a place where you can find *anyone*

who just needs to expend energy to music that quickens the pace of your 
heart, squeezes your soul. The focus should move away from some kind of 
shallow idea of who's cool and who's not, and move towards the ideals of 
acceptance and a passion to know all kinds of people. All bullshit can be 
checked at the door, please. Furthermore, this message should be made clear 
and defended completely. For a night, this party should be anarchic
territory 
where anything goes so long as one doesn't try to force anything on anyone 
else. The promoters who are just doing this for the money or for the fame of

it can kiss my ass, cause it comes through in the party. The "cause," or 
ultimate goal, if you need one, is to eliminate the prejudgement of others. 
How is this accomplished? Through setting the example. Wouldn't it be nice
if 
raves for once were portrayed by journalists as the stage for a 
forward-thinking World and people *hell bent* on peace? The hippies had it 
all wrong: you don't attain world harmony by sitting together in a field.
You 
attain it by making the world uncomfortable for those who seek to disturb 
that harmony. 

I have much more to say, but that's enough... 

    Qache',
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>you haven't seen a room full of rolling crack ravers empty in under >60 
>seconds, have you?
>i swear, even the words "the cops are here" doesn't clear out a room >that 
>fast....but i watched jethrox do it with hardcore at ICM


WOW...thats my dream come true...my goal is to clear out a room when I 
play...fuck em if they can't take the hardcore...the thing is tho...it just 
keeps getting harder to clear a room...too many sick fucks out there are 
gettin a taste for hardcore...

dylan "if I can't clear them out with J.C. Superstar, Help, and some drop 
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$35+1 for a presale ticket.. . .i think i'm gonna go biking instead.
cashmoneyless
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>WOW...thats my dream come true...my goal is to clear out a room when I 
>play...fuck em if they can't take the hardcore...the thing is tho...it just 
>keeps getting harder to clear a room...too many sick fucks out there are 
>gettin a taste for hardcore...

I remember when Dica played at Bonkers he dropped a Spice Girl track...took
about 4 seconds for everyone to run to a different room, myself included.
I was scared.  But then again for some reason when I played at the net
party last March, everyone stuck around when I played my burlesque record.
I was disappointed that no one started stripping.

fergus the queen of stripcore ;p


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> I remember when Dica played at Bonkers he dropped a Spice Girl track...took
> about 4 seconds for everyone to run to a different room, myself included.
> I was scared.


you pussy.  i stuck around and I DANCED TO IT!!!!   



ok so i didn't dance.  but i still found it highly amusing.
am i hardcore now?


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>I, for one, would like to congratulate him on being a thoroughly useless 
>addition to the human race.

I don't think he's useless...but then again of course I know him and I don't 
bace my oppinion of him on his posts...

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www.shiva-space-technology.de/


A taste of what trance is like in the rest of the world... Spent a summer in 
India, which made me fall in love with the genre, and this guy is from there. 
Interesting point of view.


Lakein,
Brennen

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 17:03:41 2000
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>ok so i didn't dance.  but i still found it highly amusing.
>am i hardcore now?

wow...if listening to the spice girls makes you hardcore...whoa, I'm not so 
sure I wanna be hardcore anymore...but then again if dica played it...It 
must have been the bomb as shit cause everybody know'd he's a superstar 
DJ...

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rave culture is not in a rut...
midwest is not in a rut...
technology is not in a rut...
music is not in a rut...
art is not in a rut...
fashion is not in a rut...

everyone is not in a rut...

i am not in a rut

you guys aparently are in ruts...
i encourage you to liberate yourselves...

because i've experienced parties like
you 'dream' of below brennen...

you acurately describe
why i go to parties

you should come
visit st louis
sometime...


adam_louis

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> Uh-oh... yer all in for it now...
>
> >>but the culture is in a rut right now.<<
>
> I couldn't agree with this more. But if we look at what fueled the first
> raves, we see the basic ideas for how today's parties can be reworked.
When I
> dream of raves, I dream of fierce, tribal, foot-stomping movement where it
> doesn't matter who or what the fuck you are to anyone. I'd like to see
raves
> become the ultimate level playing field, a place where you can find
*anyone*
> who just needs to expend energy to music that quickens the pace of your
> heart, squeezes your soul. The focus should move away from some kind of
> shallow idea of who's cool and who's not, and move towards the ideals of
> acceptance and a passion to know all kinds of people. All bullshit can be
> checked at the door, please. Furthermore, this message should be made
clear
> and defended completely. For a night, this party should be anarchic
territory
> where anything goes so long as one doesn't try to force anything on anyone
> else. The promoters who are just doing this for the money or for the fame
of
> it can kiss my ass, cause it comes through in the party. The "cause," or
> ultimate goal, if you need one, is to eliminate the prejudgement of
others.
> How is this accomplished? Through setting the example. Wouldn't it be nice
if
> raves for once were portrayed by journalists as the stage for a
> forward-thinking World and people *hell bent* on peace? The hippies had it
> all wrong: you don't attain world harmony by sitting together in a field.
You
> attain it by making the world uncomfortable for those who seek to disturb
> that harmony.
>
> I have much more to say, but that's enough...
>
>     Qache',
>      Brennen
>
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Just give me the time and place. St. Louis is quite a drive from Mpls.


In a message dated 2/22/00 11:05:07 AM Central Standard Time, 
adam_louis@hotmail.com writes:

<< you acurately describe
 why i go to parties
 
 you should come
 visit st louis
 sometime...
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Thanks Dylan!  Yeah, I can be a real prick on the list, but if you talk to
me in person I'm a fucking pussycat..  And I'm not really a
multi-millionaire YET..  *CACKLES!!!!!*  I will be someday though!!!  HA!
The stuff I say on the list MUST be said by someone doesn't it??  =P


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> >I, for one, would like to congratulate him on being a thoroughly useless
> >addition to the human race.
>
> I don't think he's useless...but then again of course I know him and I
don't
> bace my oppinion of him on his posts...
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Since when has MDMA been considered a date-rape drug?!?!?  Obviously, =

whoever termed this phrase never tried having sex while rolling.  :)

Jim




Not only that, but after reading the Channel 7 news report on line the ot=
her
day, i noticed how they referred to GHB as a "new" and  deadly drug done =
at
young adult "rave parties" (gotta love that...rave parties")  Since when =
is G
new.....shit..i remember that waaaaaaaaaaay on back in 95-96.  Futhur mor=
e,
Channel 7 mistaken the party that got broken  up on Sunday as being the C=
lub
XL again (located in Greek Town) but to their dismay they were mistaken a=
nd
had to apologize.  If you ask me, I think chicago is just trying to start=

shit.  I don't even think a party got busted on Sunday.  I don't know any=
one
that went.  I think they are just making shit up...but i could be wrong


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In a message dated 2/22/2000 11:54:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dpayer@umich.edu writes:

<< I remember when Dica played at Bonkers he dropped a Spice Girl track...took
 > about 4 seconds for everyone to run to a different room, myself included.
 > I was scared.
 
 
 you pussy.  i stuck around and I DANCED TO IT!!!!   
 
 
 
 ok so i didn't dance.  but i still found it highly amusing.
 am i hardcore now? >>

no...cuz you actually like the spice girls, it was the highlight of your nite 
there Barney

awaiting the smackethdown
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  What can I say...

I went.. I heckled the MAN himself into playing a bit harder, I danced, I 
heckled the MAN some more(got the.. IT DOESNT GO ANY LOUDER signals)... 
DANCED HARD... DANCED SOME MORE.. Heckled the MAN some more.. The whole 
event was nice.. The water issue was strange, but understandable.. I got 
shook down in the bathroom by the local police(due to my RAVER-LICIOUS) 
clothing.. but its all good. What can I say, There were other DJ's there,, 
they played, there were some interesting visuals, the crowd was peaceful..
  For those in the KNOW... HAWTIN did what HAWTIN came to do.. and did it 
well.. There were the usual fuck-ups that make it that much better.. Without 
them, you would think that he wasnt really doing anything but faking it.. 
With the fuck-ups, it becomes real, it adds depth to it.. I was pleased as 
usual.. Til this saturday..

                  Love to all,
                         Dan Sharp (0_o)
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 18:04:18 2000
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If I'm not mistaken, GHB was first used by weight trainers looking to bulk 
up- similar to steroids. GHB helps the muscles heal faster after a work out. 
As far as I'm concerned (in regards to the media) they need to get their shit 
together and maybe to a little research before spouting loads of bullshit... 
but then again, that's probably asking the impossible.

Naen,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 19:40:03 2000
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At 01:19 PM 2/22/2000 -0000, "chad clary" <cellophane_808@hotmail.com> wrote:

>i have a question.  how do you legally search people at the door to an 
>event. 

Check out the book "The Straight Dope" by Cecil Adams. In a nutshell, his
answer is this:

1) The Fourth Amendment restrictions on searches apply to the government,
not private parties (e.g., promoters).

2) You can refuse a search, but the promoter may then refuse to admit you.

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At 11:55 AM 2/22/00 EST, you wrote:
>www.shiva-space-technology.de/
>
>
>A taste of what trance is like in the rest of the world... Spent a summer in 
>India, which made me fall in love with the genre, and this guy is from
there. 
>Interesting point of view.

here's another interesting page reporting on the worldwide trance scene.  I
found it to be very informative.

http://homepages.tig.com.au/~mcgarry/paul/pukegrea.htm

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>http://homepages.tig.com.au/~mcgarry/paul/pukegrea.htm
>
>chris
>

I think you have that confused with hardcore.  Only people who listen to
hardcore are brain damaged enuff to  try that 10+ times in a row (however
many times it took to get the picture right)


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From:
http://www.urel.berkeley.edu/urel_1/CampusNews/PressReleases/releases/01-27-2000b.html

NEWS RELEASE, 1/27/00

Patent filed on energy discovery: UC Berkeley and Colorado scientists
find valuable new source of fuel

By Kathleen Scalise, Public Affairs


BERKELEY-- A metabolic switch that triggers algae to turn sunlight into
large quantities of hydrogen gas, a valuable fuel, is the subject of a
new discovery reported for the first time by University of California,
Berkeley, scientists and their Colorado colleagues.  The news appears in

this month's issue of the journal "Plant Physiology."

"I guess it's the equivalent of striking oil," said UC Berkeley plant
and microbial biology professor Tasios Melis. "It was enormously
exciting, it was unbelievable."

Melis and postdoctoral associate Liping Zhang of UC Berkeley made the
discovery - funded by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) Hydrogen
Program - with Dr. Michael Seibert, Dr. Maria Ghirardi and postdoctoral
associate Marc Forestier of the National Renewable Energy Laboratory
(NREL) in Golden, Colorado.

Currently, hydrogen fuel is extracted from natural gas, a non-renewable
energy source. The new discovery makes it possible to harness nature's
own tool, photosynthesis, to produce the promising alternative fuel from

sunlight and water. A joint patent on this new technique for capturing
solar energy has been taken out by the two institutions.

So far, only small-scale cultures of the microscopic green alga
Chlamydomonas reinhardtii have been examined in the laboratory for their

hydrogen production capabilities, Melis said.

"In the future, both small-scale industrial and commercial operations
and larger utility photobioreactor complexes can be envisioned using
this process," Melis said.

While current production rates are not high enough to make the process
immediately viable commercially, the researchers believe that yields
could rise by at least 10 fold with further research, someday making the

technique an attractive fuel-producing option.

Preliminary rough estimates, for instance, suggest it is conceivable
that a single, small commercial pond could produce enough hydrogen gas
to meet the weekly fuel needs of a dozen or so automobiles, Melis said.

The scientific team is just beginning to test ways to maximize hydrogen
production, including varying the particular type of microalga used and
its growth conditions.

Many energy experts believe hydrogen gas one day could become the
world's best renewable source of energy and an environmentally friendly
replacement for fossil fuels.

"Hydrogen is so clean burning that what comes out of the exhaust pipe is

pure water," Melis said. "You can drink it."

Engineering advances for hydrogen storage, transportation and
utilization, many sponsored by the U.S. DOE Hydrogen Program, are
beginning to make the fuel feasible to power automobiles and buses and
to generate electricity in this country, Seibert said.

"What has been lacking is a renewable source of hydrogen," he said.

For nearly 60 years, scientists have known that certain types of algae
can produce the gas in this way, but only in trace amounts. Despite
tinkering with the process, no one has been able to make the yield rise
significantly without elaborate and costly procedures until the UC
Berkeley and NREL teams made this discovery.

The breakthrough, Melis said, was discovering what he calls a "molecular

switch." This is a process by which the cell's usual photosynthetic
apparatus can be turned off at will and the cell can be directed to use
stored energy with hydrogen as the byproduct.

"The switch is actually very simple to activate," Melis said. "It
depends on the absence of an essential element, sulfur, from the
microalga growth medium."

The absence of sulfur stops photosynthesis and thus halts the cell's
internal production of oxygen. Without oxygen from any source, the
anaerobic cells are not able to burn stored fuel in the usual way,
through metabolic respiration. In order to survive, they are forced to
activate the alternative metabolic pathway, which generates the hydrogen

and may be universal in many types of algae.

"They're utilizing stored compounds and bleeding hydrogen just to
survive," Melis said. "It's probably an ancient strategy that the
organism developed to live in sulfur-poor anaerobic conditions."

He said the alga culture cannot live forever when it is switched over to

hydrogen production, but that it can manage for a considerable period of

time without negative effects.

The researchers first grow the alga "photosynthetically like every other

plant on Earth," Melis said. This allows the green-colored
microorganisms to collect sunlight and accumulate a generous supply of
carbohydrates and other fuels.

When enough energy has been banked in this manner, the researchers tap
it and turn it into hydrogen. To do this, they transfer the liquid alga
culture, which resembles a lime-green soft drink, to stoppered one-liter

glass bottles with no sulfur present. Then the culture is allowed to
consume away all oxygen.

After about 24 hours, photosynthesis and normal metabolic respiration
stop, and hydrogen begins to bubble to the top of the bottles and bleed
off into tall, hydrogen-collection glass tubes.

"It was actually a surprise when we detected significant amounts of
hydrogen coming out of the culture," Melis said. "We thought we would
get trace amounts, but we got bulk amounts."

After up to four days of generating an hourly average of about three
milliliters of hydrogen per liter of culture, the culture is depleted of

stored fuel and must be allowed to return to photosynthesis. Then, two
or three days later, it again can be tapped for hydrogen, Melis said.

"The cell culture can go back and forth like this many times," Ghirardi
said.


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----- Original Message -----
From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>

> > I remember when Dica played at Bonkers he dropped a Spice Girl
track...took
> > about 4 seconds for everyone to run to a different room, myself
included.
> > I was scared.
>
>
> you pussy.  i stuck around and I DANCED TO IT!!!!
>
>
>
> ok so i didn't dance.  but i still found it highly amusing.
> am i hardcore now?


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we will see after this weekend

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> Man, Chicago is just going down in flames....

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> >ABC CHANNEL 7 NEWS
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> >
> >Police Break Up Rave Party
> >Police break up a rave party early Sunday morning on the northwest side.
It
> >happened at a nightclub in the 2000 block of West Belmont.
> >
> >     Police took 62 teens into custody. They also recovered two tanks of
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> >the raid took place at a nightclub called "XL." Police say the party
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If anybody from the Minneapolis area is bored on March 3rd, I'll be
playing a show at the Cave at Carleton College, and doing my best to clear
the floor, since I'm playing between two house DJs. :) 

Anyway, here's the line-up:

some trip-hop band
The Commissioner (house DJ)
atomly (hard/experimental/breaks/noise live PA)
Mumra (house/breaks live PA with vocals)

I'm pretty sure it's all ages, and you can drink of you're 21+ (e-mail me
later if you want to make sure)

Directions: http://www.student.carleton.edu/orgs/cave/directions.html

More info:	http://www.atomly.com/music/shows
		http://www.metrowax.com/
		http://www.mp3.com/mumra/
		http://www.mp3.com/atomly/

Anyway, sorry for the spam.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

> here's another interesting page reporting on the worldwide trance scene.  I
> found it to be very informative.
> 
> http://homepages.tig.com.au/~mcgarry/paul/pukegrea.htm
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I love trance! And so does this guy!

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That picture totally reminds me of when I saw Oaky and PvD!

I *HEART* TRANCE!

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You know I try ignoring stupid remarks such as that,
but I guess people don't understand the idea of trying
to keep their stupid pointless one liner shit to
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>what is the song in the VW commercial that came out last year where 
>everything is moving in time w/ the music until the water splashes 
>on the windshield?  for some reason that is stuck in my head.
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i dunno what it is but i have an mp3 of it. it just says "Jetta 
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Uh...why is it that some DJ's WANT to clear out a room. 

I hope they're joking. I would rather play to a room full of people bugging 
out to the music. The best thing is when a DJ can work the crowd to a point 
where one can drop something totally uncalled for.

Then again..the best way to clear a room is to turn down the sound and 
continually bump into the turntable.

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hey man hit me back...i got a question :)


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the song is called "synchronicity". its part of a larger piece of music
and that is only one movement of the music.  ill get back to you if i find
out the name of the whole work and the artist. i remembered last year but
ive slept since then.

ciao.
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Good day from the faderwars.com camp.

                  http://www.faderwars.com

The last two weeks were filled with many, many votes......and in the end, 
Kia came out on top.  He won over Xylok by a total of 17 votes.
Good job to both DJ's and Faderwars thanks you.

THIS WEEK!!
This week we have another little battle for you...
The Syndicate out of VA are up against DJ Mind Mechanic.

Their styles are a little different, but the mixes are both tight as all 
hell and that is what we are really voting on here anyways right?

So check both of them out and vote on your favorite.

**********Featured Selectors********
We still have Daniels mix, "Payback" which is full of the freshest runnin' 
tracks......and added this week we have the ragga selection by Jeremy 
(me)...Check both of them out and you will not be disappointed!

later
jeremy

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EMAIL: dbhead@faderwars.com

Good day from the faderwars.com camp.

                  http://www.faderwars.com

The last two weeks were filled with many, many votes......and in the end, 
Kia came out on top.  He won over Xylok by a total of 17 votes.
Good job to both DJ's and Faderwars thanks you.

THIS WEEK!!
This week we have another little battle for you...
The Syndicate out of VA are up against DJ Mind Mechanic.

Their styles are a little different, but the mixes are both tight as all 
hell and that is what we are really voting on here anyways right?

So check both of them out and vote on your favorite.

**********Featured Selectors********
We still have Daniels mix, "Payback" which is full of the freshest runnin' 
tracks......and added this week we have the ragga selection by Jeremy 
(me)...Check both of them out and you will not be disappointed!

later
jeremy

http://www.faderwars.com
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 22:30:49 2000
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a quick web search let me to this...

http://nebulus.com/nebzine/nebnews/nn_1999/nn_990129.html

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 23:00:31 2000
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hey all~ just thought some of you might like to know
about the "in depth report" that kmbc 9 news has came
up with. might be worth watching and giving some
feedback to whomever. whatever. anyways, thats all.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 22 23:54:44 2000
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From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
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Your missing the whole point of many hardcore DJ's in
the US.  They are trying to go against the grain, to
shock their audiences sometimes, and to not have to
yield to what "the kids want to hear".
I think that many DJ's sell short the musical
expression part of DJing for the sake of "keeping the
kids happy".  True it is better to have a room full of
people dancing than to have an empty room, but if you
are not expressing yourself through the music you are
playing to that crowd, then whats the point.
Of course this holds true to all types of Dj's, but I
think many times this is expressed most often from the
hardcore and experimental Dj's out their.

--- PHILFART@aol.com wrote:
> Uh...why is it that some DJ's WANT to clear out a
> room. 
> 
> I hope they're joking. I would rather play to a room
> full of people bugging 
> out to the music. The best thing is when a DJ can
> work the crowd to a point 
> where one can drop something totally uncalled for.
> 
> Then again..the best way to clear a room is to turn
> down the sound and 
> continually bump into the turntable.
> 
> P
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 00:04:14 2000
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since the need for information concerning the things ppl put in their 
bodies at parties seems to be on the rise, jeff and i decided
that it was time to get our shit together and actually *do* something with
the ravesafe chapter we formed last summer.  so far we've only been
answering questions over email (detroit_ravesafe@hotmail.com), but we'd
now like to start handing out some of the flyers we've been working on.

one major problem though:  funding.  we're a bunch of broke-ass college
students who can't afford to just swing by kinko's and have a few hundred
pamphlets printed up, so this is where YOU come in.

if you are a dj and support the goals of ravesafe (outlined at
www.ravesafe.org) -- which are NOT to condone drug use, but rather to help
those that choose to take them, or those that are curious about them, make
more informed decisions -- would you be interested in putting together a
60 minute mix to be sold at our ravesafe booth to help fund the basics?
we wouldn't be likely to come out with a profit, the money we'd make would
be used to cover the initial investment put into the tapes (blank tapes, j
cards, etc.), to print up flyers/info sheets, and maybe to make a nice
banner. (the flyer/info sheet part is the most important one, if we can't
print flyers, there's not much of a point in setting up a booth)

if you think this is a foolish idea, please email us at
detroit_ravesafe@hotmail.com and tell us why.

if you think this is a good idea, and would like to help harmreduction
along by using your skills for a good cause, please email
detroit_ravesafe@hotmail.com as well and let us know.

thanks,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 00:08:28 2000
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It's not nececarilly that I want to clear a room...it's more like this...I'm 
not a DJ cause I wanna make money...I'mn a dj cause not a whole lot of 
people out there play what I wanna hear...and it sure isn't played much at 
parties...I don't care if I get rich or famous doing this...I do it for 
me...and if a promoter wants to book me... GREAT...but I'm gonna play what I 
play...not something I think the kids will like...so if all of them 
leave...GOOD...that way I don't have to hear them bitching...I'd rather have 
5 people in the room who love the music than 5000 who are just gonna bitch 
about how bad that "hardcore shit" is...

dylan "tranerek" dorrell

>Uh...why is it that some DJ's WANT to clear out a room.
>
>I hope they're joking. I would rather play to a room full of people bugging
>out to the music. The best thing is when a DJ can work the crowd to a point
>where one can drop something totally uncalled for.
>
>Then again..the best way to clear a room is to turn down the sound and
>continually bump into the turntable.
>
>P
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 00:21:16 2000
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Raving has never had a common cause except for just
going out and listening to music (and even this is
sometimes not common with all atendees).
Therefore raving is not a movement.
I think the saving grace though with the whole thing
is the fact that their are more than just the most
prevelent faction of raving (you know the silly
looking kids with all the plastic crap on high off
their asses screaming plur at everyone), their are
other emerging factions like the hardcore
headz(wtw,destruction, etc.), the junglists (all of
the strictly dnb events), and others.  Now in these
factions the only goal is to have a good time and
listen to some sort of music as well, but when in
these settings the atendees sort of have the same
mindstate going on.
I think in order to keep some hint of underground
going on in this "scene" we need to encourage these
subfactions.

--- DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:
> the whole idea of what a rave is, is really beyond
> me at this point. I mean, 
> I know its a bunch of people dancing to a DJ in a
> big hot sweaty building but 
> the culture is in a rut right now.
> For so long I was this happy-bouncy candykid,
> completely electropop. But 
> that's not who I am anymore. I still like the candy,
> I like the beads, but 
> the whole overboard with pacifiers and that seems
> like bullshit. And what's 
> more is that it's become so much about the fashion.
> Maybe I'm just in a mood 
> right now but I think I might have something here.
> I think the rave culture should take lessons from
> the punk culture. Rave 
> culture needs to have a cause. "What about PLUR?"
> you may ask. Well PLUR can 
> kiss my ass. Peace Love Unity and Respect are great
> ideas but it started out 
> as more of a suggestion for ediquette than a way of
> life. The kindergarten 
> ideas are making me feel like the idea of PLUR is a
> really shallow notion. 
> The world has its problems, running around shouting
> PLUR isn't going to make 
> them get better. People need to do something about
> it. See, punks have 
> anarchy as their cause. But it's really not much
> better for them because 
> anarchy has become a catch phrase today too. What
> the hell, it's been one 
> since the 80s.
> 
> What's my main point? Activism. Why? I dunno, I'm in
> a mood. Nevermind. 
> disregard this letter. I'm just uptight and wanna
> get laid.
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 00:32:24 2000
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>>I remember when Dica played at Bonkers he dropped a Spice Girl 
>>track...took
>>about 4 seconds for everyone to run to a different room, myself included.
>>I was scared.
>
>
>you pussy.  i stuck around and I DANCED TO IT!!!!
>
>
>ok so i didn't dance.  but i still found it highly amusing.

spice girls is for dancin, take note from the poor man's dica, ravers!

btw, i can answer this question in one word:

NO.  kids don't want to hear hardcore.  but you know what?  fuck 'em.  cuz 
that's what they're going to get.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 00:35:55 2000
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>me...and if a promoter wants to book me... GREAT...but I'm gonna play what I 
>play...not something I think the kids will like...so if all of them 
>leave...GOOD...that way I don't have to hear them bitching...I'd rather have 
>5 people in the room who love the music than 5000 who are just gonna bitch 
>about how bad that "hardcore shit" is...

Then why ever bother leaving your 'bedroom'??  I mean... really most of the
djs I know, dj for love of the music *and* because they want to share the
music with people who love it.  (but hey most the djs I know are pussy-ass
trance djs).   If you just want to play music that you love... and thats
the only part of the equation so what?  if you want to share it with others
(who love it, or might be shown it) then yeah dj, or promote... or do
both...  Why would you want to bother playing at a party where no one is
going to like your music?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 00:47:40 2000
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attetion djs.
if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.

love,
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:Why would you want to bother playing at a party where no one is
:going to like your music?


that doesn't make sense thought....how many dj's ask the promoter "well,
will there be any kids there who like my music?"

i, for one, will and have travelled many many miles for quality noise and
hardcore, whereas i wouldn't if said quality shite wasn't on the flyer...

i really wish that there were more promoters who booked talent based on
quality rather than crowd pull. i would have to agree with dylan, jon, and
the others who have expressed this opinion...i'd rather be in a room with 5
people who love what's being played than 2000 people of which the majority
are there because that bangin bass really kicks in their roll...and i'd also
rather be in that same big room with a great big system and 5 people
listening to good music than in my living room listening to it on 50 watt
speakers. why should the minority be denied 20,000 watts of sound because
it's not "popular with the ravers"

again, just food for thought =]
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>>what is the song in the VW commercial that came out last year where
>>everything is moving in time w/ the music until the water splashes
>>on the windshield?  for some reason that is stuck in my head.


Ok, here's the weird thing.  I have the Ed Rush and Optical album called
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Rush and Optical.  Anyone ever heard of this tune?

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At 07:48 PM 2/22/00 -0500, Pixie wrote:
>
>:Why would you want to bother playing at a party where no one is
>:going to like your music?
>
>


>that doesn't make sense thought....how many dj's ask the promoter "well,

 is that supposed to  read does? or doesnt?

>will there be any kids there who like my music?"

No, but there are other ways of getting an Idea or a feel for it.  

>i, for one, will and have travelled many many miles for quality noise and
>hardcore, whereas i wouldn't if said quality shite wasn't on the flyer...

Thats nice, if there were more kids that felt the same way  you could do an
entire hardcore/noise party.  Theres a thought... I'd be willing to bet you
everyone there would "love" the music.  Unless of course what you really
want is to piss off 2000+ ravers and have the entire soundsystem just for
you and your 5 friends.  

>the others who have expressed this opinion...i'd rather be in a room with 5
>people who love what's being played than 2000 people of which the majority
>are there because that bangin bass really kicks in their roll...and i'd also

yeah but wouldnt be ideal if you were in a room with 2000 kids who were
there b/c they wanted to hear the music/loved the music too?

>rather be in that same big room with a great big system and 5 people
>listening to good music than in my living room listening to it on 50 watt
>speakers. why should the minority be denied 20,000 watts of sound because
>it's not "popular with the ravers"

why? simple reason $$$  it may suck but thats what it comes down to...
right or wrong.


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>what is the song in the VW commercial that came out last year where
>everything is moving in time w/ the music until the water splashes
>on the windshield?  for some reason that is stuck in my head.

not that the titles of mp3s are ever accurate, but mine says its
Signal II Noise - Jung at Heart (Jetta remix)

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At 16:07 22-2-00 -0800, dylan dorrell wrote:

>I do it for me...and if a promoter wants to book me... GREAT...but I'm 
>gonna play what I play...not something I think the kids will like...so if 
>all of them leave...GOOD...that way I don't have to hear them 
>bitching...I'd rather have 5 people in the room who love the music than 
>5000 who are just gonna bitch about how bad that "hardcore shit" is...

Mmm... There are many styles of hardcore that are in my crate, though. To 
me being a DJ still means having a responsibility to the dancefloor. I like 
to cover a lot of genres and different speeds within the hardcore spectrum 
to keep people interested at all times. EVEN people who are normally not 
into hardcore. It's still a neat trick to make someone new like what they hear.

Of course I also grew up seeing people DANCE to hardcore all night long, so 
I will usually remain in the danceable tempo range.

That is all from my softcare ass today.

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:>that doesn't make sense thought....how many dj's ask the promoter "well,
:
: is that supposed to  read does? or doesnt?


it's supposed to read "though."

:>will there be any kids there who like my music?"
:
:No, but there are other ways of getting an Idea or a feel for it.

perhaps, but people generally go to parties to hear the music there, not the
other way around.

:>i, for one, will and have travelled many many miles for quality noise and
:>hardcore, whereas i wouldn't if said quality shite wasn't on the flyer...
:
:Thats nice, if there were more kids that felt the same way  you could do an
:entire hardcore/noise party.

that's what i was talking about...except it was thrown by PBS in Pittsburgh
a few months back.

:Theres a thought... I'd be willing to bet you
:everyone there would "love" the music.  Unless of course what you really
:want is to piss off 2000+ ravers and have the entire soundsystem just for
:you and your 5 friends.

actually, everyone there didn't...sadly because of the inability of a large
number of the attendees to understand what "all hardcore, noise, and jungle
party" meant...hysterically, some of them even asked for their money back
because, and i quote "no house music was played." no house music was
promised...in fact it was guaranteed there would be none there...but there
were quite a few people from all areas who were more than impressed with the
talent, and got a chance to hear stuff that a few told me they'd never heard
anything like before...and they loved it....i'm pretty sure ravers can read,
most of us anyway, and i'm pretty sure that most mature people will agree
that hearing a form of music you don't like is no grounds to get pissed off,
especially when most flyers warn you of who's playing what these
days...ignorance of the existence of different styles of music is no excuse.

:>the others who have expressed this opinion...i'd rather be in a room with
5
:>people who love what's being played than 2000 people of which the majority
:>are there because that bangin bass really kicks in their roll...and i'd
also
:
:yeah but wouldnt be ideal if you were in a room with 2000 kids who were
:there b/c they wanted to hear the music/loved the music too?

absolutely

:>rather be in that same big room with a great big system and 5 people
:>listening to good music than in my living room listening to it on 50 watt
:>speakers. why should the minority be denied 20,000 watts of sound because
:>it's not "popular with the ravers"
:
:why? simple reason $$$  it may suck but thats what it comes down to...
:right or wrong.

no it comes down to people not being willing to take a chance and step away
from the same old formulas...people will pay money to hear this
music....i've got money in my pocket that says so, and i know i'm not alone

peace.
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people will pay money to hear this
> music....i've got money in my pocket that says so, 
and i know i'm not alone
> 
> peace.
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:>perhaps, but people generally go to parties to hear the music there, not
the
:>other way around.
:
:thats a shame. IMHO   I think it would be really nice if djs went to
:parties to entertain kids.

You seem to be having a hard time understanding the context of what i'm
saying. I'm not refering in any way to dj's who aren't interested in
entertaining the crowd. you're getting away from the point. your question
was why do people want to play music that could potentially piss people
off...and my response was that people have plenty of warning as to what type
of music they are going to hear...it's generally the deciding factor in why
they go, who's name is on the flyer...so what excuse would someone going to
a party to hear the music have for being pissed off by hearing a particular
style...and why doesn't a dj have a right to hold the opinion that if
someone doesn't like his or her music they should probably leave? I
certainly wouldn't want someone who wasn't enjoying what i was playing to
stay in the room.


:Thats kinda interesting a few weeks ago I went to pittsburgh for an all
:Psychedelic/goa trance party :)  loved it... everyone there seemed into the
:music it was a lot of fun.  Sure there was few 'surly' people there but for
:the most part it reminded me of why I love going ot parties :)

cool. so a limited-style party worked for you...guess what, it works for
others too =] that's all i'm trying to say

:>no it comes down to people not being willing to take a chance and step
away
:>from the same old formulas...people will pay money to hear this
:>music....i've got money in my pocket that says so, and i know i'm not
alone
:
:I dunno I think if that were the case someone would be throwing all
:hardcore parties...  maybe its time has come I dunno... (talk to michael
:he's throwing parties sure its "happy" though).

RIght, and they're working. And although they are two entirely different
feeling music forms, the point you seem to be missing is that there is no
"time has come" here...it has already been done in the past, and it will be
done again, and people will go to hear it. If it's not your particular
taste, you don't have too...so why bother with giving a hard time to those
people who would?

:But really, why dont you
:trhow a party if you have the money in your pocket and know your not alone
:(sure 5 grand or however much initial investment its going to take is a lot
:more than 20 bucks but if your certain and you love the music I'm sure you
:can beg/borrow the money somehow).

No need to, but I also don't feel that I have enough experience and
knowledge to take on such a task...throwing parties these days is serious
business, and i'd rather help the efforts of established promoters than
throw another hand into the pot...does that automatically take away my right
to voice my opinion that i think hardcore should be showcased more? I'm not
making demands here, just enjoying my freedom to defend what i like and why
i think it's valid. there are plenty of other promoters who are already
taking on the task, and until i feel comfortable in that arena, if ever,
then there are promoters whose efforts i follow and support to keep me
sated. i just don't think it hurts to let a few more aware of what other
styles some of us like.

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ok, I need to see DJ Bone play live again. Furthermore, I need to get ahold 
of a DJ Bone tape. Can anyone help me out with this mission? I am having NO 
luck down here in the seventh den of hell. Thanks~

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what hardcore?





mmm. i'm such a brat.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 03:32:04 2000
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Just a quick question to any Wisconsin head out there willing to
answer...I was watching the Democratic debate at the Apollo and one of
them mentioned that there was some type of voucher program in Milwaukee
for school choice.  Just wanted to know how that program works up there.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 03:47:19 2000
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::hiss:: I think someone is a little miffed more about big bad atomly 
insulting their genre than they are about "idiotic one-liners." Let's come 
to terms with the fact that there are many "pointless" posts on this list 
and if we should try to eliminate them, mw-raves would struggle to exist. If 
you want to "discuss" you should be big enough to allow someone else to 
express dislike for *your* personal taste. Touche Misha, don't talk trash 
unless you can take it...and atomly can spread his garbage anywhere he 
wants. Personally, I find him amusing. Let's not bear claws and cat fight 
over it ;)

kitten

i *heart* atomly

>From: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>
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>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:05:18 -0800 (PST)
>
>You know I try ignoring stupid remarks such as that,
>but I guess people don't understand the idea of trying
>to keep their stupid pointless one liner shit to
>themselves. This list is for discussion, not idiotic
>one liners. You have IRC for that. Keep your trash to
>yourself.
>
>Thanks
>Misha
>
>--- atomly <atomly@atomly.com> wrote:
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> > and PvD!
> >
> > I *HEART* TRANCE!
> >
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, ::MeOw:: HoUsKiTteN wrote:

> i *heart* atomly
> 

me too


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>you want to "discuss" you should be big enough to allow someone else to 
>express dislike for *your* personal taste. Touche Misha, don't talk trash 
>unless you can take it...and atomly can spread his garbage anywhere he 

And misha is free to voice his opinion on it.  so what?  (just as free as
you are to voice your opinion on misha's and I'm to voice mine on yours...
whee!)


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Uh oh, you've engaged my curiosity. Please do tell, what's it like trying
to have sex while rolling? :)

At 8:14 AM -0500 22/2/00, Boppity wrote:
>Since when has MDMA been considered a date-rape drug?!?!?  Obviously,
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Is there a sub-genre of electronic music that incorporates punk into it? I 
don't mean just hardcore with a little punk influence but something with more 
of an mxpx feel. You think it would work?

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At 11:12 PM 2/22/00 EST, DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:
>Is there a sub-genre of electronic music that incorporates punk into it? I 
>don't mean just hardcore with a little punk influence but something with
more 
>of an mxpx feel. You think it would work?
>

I think your more likely to find electro-influenced punk music...  there
was a dayton band "Braniac" that kinda fit that category...  They were
really really good.. unfortunatley the lead singer (I think he also
programmed most of the synths and waht not) drove his car into a telephone
pole and died :(  

Look for an album called 'Smack Bunny baby' or is it 'Smack Baby Bunny'  I
cant quite recall.. its really good though.

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time to get on yahoo...works faster w/ less problems
...best web based e-mail program out there hands down
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At 11:21 PM 2/22/00 EST, Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
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What???? he's not being held back or opressed by the man????? are you sure
he's not white?


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Yes i am miffed about the fact that atomly insulted
the genre of music I like. Why? Because it's fucking
stupid, pointless, immature and childish. We each
like our own thing and I am tired of explaining the
concept of open-mindness to the people in here.
Whether it's a joke or not. And just think...if there
were no
pointless posts in here then maybe we could use this
list for music-related discussions which don't diss
each other's favorite genre or maybe party info and so
on. What would happen to the world if we used this
list
for what it was originally meant for? Could that
lower the number of people who keep unsubbing you
think? 
And what point are you trying to make by saying that I
shouldn't talk trash unless I can take it? You don't
see me flooding this list with idiotic one liner gay
insults such as "hardcore blows ass" or "i *heart*
richie". I am not talking trash, simply making a
point that insulting one liners don't and shouldn't
belong in here. We have IRC for that which, BELIEVE
ME, is heavily used for that kinda thing anyway. 

Misha
 
P.S. I *heart* Doormouse.


>  
> > ::hiss:: I think someone is a little miffed more
> > about big bad atomly 
> > insulting their genre than they are about "idiotic
> > one-liners." Let's come 
> > to terms with the fact that there are many
> > "pointless" posts on this list 
> > and if we should try to eliminate them, mw-raves
> > would struggle to exist. If 
> > you want to "discuss" you should be big enough to
> > allow someone else to 
> > express dislike for *your* personal taste. Touche
> > Misha, don't talk trash 
> > unless you can take it...and atomly can spread his
> > garbage anywhere he 
> > wants. Personally, I find him amusing. Let's not
> > bear claws and cat fight 
> > over it ;)
> > 
> > kitten
> > 
> > i *heart* atomly
> > 
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:time to get on yahoo...works faster w/ less problems
:...best web based e-mail program out there hands down
:...plus jerry yang is another one of those prodigy asian
:types...


so why haven't you just been using that then, instead of supporting da og
white man billy gates??

*grin* sorry, had to ask

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Well, I know you said not hardcore with a punk influence, but there is
some "hardcore" out there with punk in it.   Bombardier has a track that
uses a Minor Threat riff, and one that uses Nirvana's cover of Return of
the Rat, I did a few Propagandhi, Minor Threat and such mixes, most of
which didn't turn out quite right, and I'm sure there are many more out
there.

If you want more info on Bombardier, go to http://www.c8.com/bomb/ or
http://www.lowres.com/

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We all could bicker back and fourth...the truth is that all the kids want to 
do is...










FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Simple as that. You can't deny that rave kids (and people in general) just 
want to fuck. Horny people want to fuck someone. Those who do the chemical 
thing want to get fucked up. DJ's want to fuck some shit up. Promoters want 
to get the FUCK out when thier event gets busted. Promoters want to fuck 
people outta thier money. People who have to deal with shadey fuckers and 
gangstaravertrashrepresentingthahood want to fuck someone up (What the FUCK 
are you looking at!?!) ! Hardcore DJ's want people to say, WHAT THE 
FUCK!?!?!? It's all about FUCK! Fuck! 

Phil "FUCK"

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In a message dated 2/23/0 4:28:57 AM, sluck wrote:

<<What???? he's not being held back or opressed by the man????? 
are you sure he's not white?>>

lol, that's because he owns his own company,
well partial owner now...pfft, he'll prolly be
even less of an owner in the future too, cuz
i'm sure he'll get bought out by some even
larger company that'll force their way in...
it's the american way...it makes me sick...

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Misha 
I really don't think it's that big of a deal.  I too am a trance fanatic, I 
love it.  Every genre.  Especially wussy-progressive trance.  On more than 
one occasion, trance sets have brought me to tears.  I've been collecting 
trance records for about 2-3 years now.  I LOVE TRANCE AND I DON'T GIVE A 
FUCK WHO KNOWS.  Burn me at the stake, MW-Raves.
But just because a large amount of people on this list don't like it and 
don't have a lot of good things to say about it, doesn't mean I'm going to 
get bent out of shape.  To each their own.  or some shit like that.
It is *SO* not worth getting upset over.

Jen Sixtybus
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 05:29:22 2000
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I am not upset over the fact that people diss TRANCE.
I am just upset that people are dissing a music genre
in a public forum period. It's fucking stupid and
silly. Yeah sure it makes it worse for ME because I am
a trance head and most people in here seem to hate
trance the most, but that's not the main issue. The
main issue is, people should leave it the fuck alone
and talk about things that matter..or not talk about
anything at all =)

Misha...riding that sixtybus =)



--- Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:
> Misha 
> I really don't think it's that big of a deal.  I too
> am a trance fanatic, I 
> love it.  Every genre.  Especially wussy-progressive
> trance.  On more than 
> one occasion, trance sets have brought me to tears. 
> I've been collecting 
> trance records for about 2-3 years now.  I LOVE
> TRANCE AND I DON'T GIVE A 
> FUCK WHO KNOWS.  Burn me at the stake, MW-Raves.
> But just because a large amount of people on this
> list don't like it and 
> don't have a lot of good things to say about it,
> doesn't mean I'm going to 
> get bent out of shape.  To each their own.  or some
> shit like that.
> It is *SO* not worth getting upset over.
> 
> Jen Sixtybus
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I am in absolute agreeance with this theory,that..and also the in depth all 
people on this list wanna do is "shit" theory,definately some in depth 
stuff.

hahaha
-winn.djnujack


>From: PHILFART@aol.com
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] What? The kids want to hear hardcore?
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:57:15 EST
>
>We all could bicker back and fourth...the truth is that all the kids want 
>to
>do is...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>Simple as that. You can't deny that rave kids (and people in general) just
>want to fuck. Horny people want to fuck someone. Those who do the chemical
>thing want to get fucked up. DJ's want to fuck some shit up. Promoters want
>to get the FUCK out when thier event gets busted. Promoters want to fuck
>people outta thier money. People who have to deal with shadey fuckers and
>gangstaravertrashrepresentingthahood want to fuck someone up (What the FUCK
>are you looking at!?!) ! Hardcore DJ's want people to say, WHAT THE
>FUCK!?!?!? It's all about FUCK! Fuck!
>
>Phil "FUCK"
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i don't know what you are talking about,but regardless your solution..is 
happy hardcore...now go pick up the 2 into the millenium records on next 
generation and see of that doesn't cool you off a bit.

-winn/nujack


>From: DJDolorem@aol.com
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>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] electro-punk
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:12:17 EST
>
>Is there a sub-genre of electronic music that incorporates punk into it? I
>don't mean just hardcore with a little punk influence but something with 
>more
>of an mxpx feel. You think it would work?
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In a message dated 2/22/0 3:11:06 PM, you wrote:

<<Matter of fact, one time it was this hare-lipped 
retarded looking asian who was getting $1.50
more an hour than I, and I found out it was because of 
what I said...plus he was a hard-ball negotiator.  I didn't 
sweat it though, I just outperformed him
and then I had nothing to bitch about.>>

what the fuk's a hare-lipped asian?...you mean he had a
rabbit attached to his lips?...i think you mean hairy lipped
asian!...and even then your story is still full of holes!...
because asians for the most part are not hairy!!...a hard
balled negotiator?...i've never met a hard balled asian in
my entire life!...and i'm asian!...i can see an asian being
overly passive and lettin da white man walk all the fuk
over them, but hard balled?...god damn, why do white people
have to come up with such far-fetched bull shit stories to
try to cover up their shadiness all the time?...the truth was
you were paid $1.50 more than him & he outperformed the
fuk outta you & you became a jealous hater & made up bull
shit stories about him to get him fired, which is exactly
what happened at my last jobs...white people hate gettin 
beat, so they always resort to cheating or lieing to compensate
for their insecurities...just like after jesse owens took the
olympics during WWII by storm & womped the fuk outta hitler's
master race...hitler started talkin all this bullshit...whateva...
everybody saw what really happened...just as everybody is seein
what's goin on here now...



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yea, but misha... trance like SUCKS!

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In a message dated 2/22/00 11:34:24 PM Central Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< i've never met a hard balled asian in
 my entire life!... >>

you obviously have never met me.

and i'm obviously asian.

suzi

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>And misha is free to voice his opinion on it.  so what?  (just as free as
>you are to voice your opinion on misha's and I'm to voice mine on yours...
>whee!)
>
>
>tad

I agree completely; however, I believe it was Misha who was telling atomly 
to "keep his trash to himself." I'm with you on this one Tad, I hope you can 
see my point that people should be able to post their opinions and spark 
discussions irrespective of other people's tastes and opinions, and other 
listmembers should be welcomed to counter those points. I think we can do 
without petty insults, though, and remarks such as that.

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
 lol, that's because he owns his own company,
> well partial owner now...pfft, he'll prolly be
> even less of an owner in the future too, cuz
> i'm sure he'll get bought out by some even
> larger company that'll force their way in...
> it's the american way...it makes me sick... 

Stevie, Yahoo won't be bought out anytime soon...they ARE the larger
force.  Do you know News Corp.?  Rupert Murdoch, Fox, etc?  Well, on
FoxNews he even admitted that they couldn't afford to buy out
Yahoo.  Yahoo will be the ones acquiring other companies, just like how
AOL bought out Time-Warner.  Stevie, let's say Yahoo DOES get bought
out.  Yang surely won't be sick like you.  Trust me, he'd LOVE the
American way and already does.
Jerry

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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 2/23/0 4:28:57 AM, sluck wrote:
> 
> <<What???? he's not being held back or opressed by the man????? 
> are you sure he's not white?>>
> 
> lol, that's because he owns his own company,
> well partial owner now...pfft, he'll prolly be
> even less of an owner in the future too, cuz
> i'm sure he'll get bought out by some even
> larger company that'll force their way in...
> it's the american way...it makes me sick...
> 
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You dissin' trance, punk?

Let me tell you something, bitch.

You step to trance, you step to Kevin Ryan.

And Kevin Ryan is one bad mutha you don't
wanna mess with.

First, Mr. Ryan will say nasty things about your
mother.  Second, Mr. Ryan will proceed to fuck
shit up.  Third, Mr. Ryan will rip off your expensive
sneakers and coolly vacate the scene.  Lastly, Mr.
Ryan will contact Ms. Payer and make
arrangements for you at the Smackdown Hotel.

That's right, fool.

It's time to pay the bills.

So who wants a piece of this?

I assure you, there's plenty to go around.

Atomly, Chrise, Mattdemmon...Who wants to go first?

You gonna knock the international trance scene?

Aw haw haw, bitch, now it's personal.

Why don't you come over here and say that to my face?

That's what I thought.

Bam!

Like that, muthafucka.

I *own* your sorry ass.


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>Uh oh, you've engaged my curiosity. Please do tell, what's it like trying
>to have sex while rolling? :)

there is one thing I have always, and will continue to avoid. I worry that 
experiencing sex while rolling would make sex without narcotics paler in 
comparison. I don't think I want to jeopardize that...

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I think that if you are going to make a comment on any genre of music, or 
anything for that matter, you should at least have and list some points that 
back up your opinions, instead of just saying "TRANCE SUCKS" and then sending 
it to the group.  

D.A.R.Y.L.

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misha, please refrain from posting until you're off the rag.

ok what's next?  happy hardcore you say?  yeah happy hardcore sucks!!

what list?


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mikhail-

just because atomly may not like trance doesn't necessarily mean that he was
dissing trance, per se. i think he was making a joke, a funny, a ha-ha...

lighten up =] don't take everything so seriously.

sheezus
pixie

<Hey Tsar, trance sucks!>


:I am not upset over the fact that people diss TRANCE.
:I am just upset that people are dissing a music genre
:in a public forum period. It's fucking stupid and
:silly. Yeah sure it makes it worse for ME because I am
:a trance head and most people in here seem to hate
:trance the most, but that's not the main issue. The
:main issue is, people should leave it the fuck alone
:and talk about things that matter..or not talk about
:anything at all =)
:
:Misha...riding that sixtybus =)



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> because asians for the most part are not hairy!!...a hard
> balled negotiator?...i've never met a hard balled asian in
> my entire life!


and i've never met a racist asian prejudiced against his own race in my
entire life!
coincidence?  i think not.
it's all party of the conspiracy.




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At 11:43 PM 2/22/00 -0600, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:
>You dissin' trance, punk?
>
>Let me tell you something, bitch.
>
>You step to trance, you step to Kevin Ryan.
>
>And Kevin Ryan is one bad mutha you don't
>wanna mess with.
>
>First, Mr. Ryan will say nasty things about your
>mother.  Second, Mr. Ryan will proceed to fuck
>shit up.  Third, Mr. Ryan will rip off your expensive
>sneakers and coolly vacate the scene.  Lastly, Mr.
>Ryan will contact Ms. Payer and make
>arrangements for you at the Smackdown Hotel.
>
>That's right, fool.
>
>It's time to pay the bills.
>
>So who wants a piece of this?
>
>I assure you, there's plenty to go around.
>
>Atomly, Chrise, Mattdemmon...Who wants to go first?
>
>You gonna knock the international trance scene?
>
>Aw haw haw, bitch, now it's personal.
>
>Why don't you come over here and say that to my face?
>
>That's what I thought.
>
>Bam!
>
>Like that, muthafucka.
>
>I *own* your sorry ass.
>
>
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I need the DL on some good labels.
I just bought some 12's and i have all of Wes' records
but i only like some of his shit.

Curent Favs:

Code Red
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Axis and PurposeMaker(of course)
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 07:13:17 2000
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maybe i just missed it but who was i supposed to contact about the tickets 
and the whole debacle that happened in louisville?

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why doesn't my irc work?!





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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 08:14:07 2000
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HI I AM HORTENCE. SORRY I AM TYPING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, I USED TOTYPE IN 
ALTERNATING UPPER AND LOWER CASES, UNTIL I DROPPED A BLOW POP ON MY KEYBOARD 
AND GOT BLOW POP GIZZ ON MY SHIFT KEY AND NOW I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPITAL 
LETTERS.
I LIKE RAVES. I AM A GIRL. I LIKE BOYS. I LIVE IN CANADA. I KNOW BEKKA. SHE 
IS MY FRIEND. I SWEEP THE STREET I LIVE ON WHEN I AM NOT WORKING AS A 
MOUNTIE (THE ONLY ONE IN CANADA WITH A GUN). IF YOU ARE BAD I WILL SHOOT 
YOU.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 08:24:40 2000
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Hey tsarrio, trance sucks!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 08:34:08 2000
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>Just a quick question to any Wisconsin head out there willing to
>answer...I was watching the Democratic debate at the Apollo and one of
>them mentioned that there was some type of voucher program in Milwaukee
>for school choice.  Just wanted to know how that program works up there.

well, jerry, i'm not going to say that i know everything about the milwaukee 
school voucher system.  but, from what i do know, it allows low-income 
students the chance to attend private schools (including religious schools, 
hence much of the controversy) through state-funded tuition credit.  it was 
instituted about 2 years ago, if i recall correctly, and has been getting a 
lot of flak since its establishment.  it has only been used in the milwaukee 
school district.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 08:42:18 2000
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Hey Horty.......what list?

konfuzzled
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 09:30:40 2000
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I thought everything was very well done. I had friends who knew the guys 
doing the big screen visuals, so I got to go up to their booth/balcony and 
be on screen for a few seconds... First time seein Richie, what a treat. 
Overall, everything was a whole shitload of fun, thanx for throwin it, and 
keep it up!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 09:31:12 2000
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I thought everything was very well done. I had friends who knew the guys 
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be on screen for a few seconds... First time seein Richie, what a treat. 
Overall, everything was a whole shitload of fun, thanx for throwin it, and 
keep it up!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 10:29:07 2000
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i agree there brother, when i don't get stuck in line
for 3 hours to be told that no one else will be let in
because there was too much hype and a small venue....i
mean the oasis was a great size for got vibe, but a
"special occasion" party like addicted was way too big
for that venue, tho i understand that shit comes up at
the last minute with change of venue.  i just feel
really sorry for the people that drove so far and
didn't get in, only the promise that "hey, the oz
would be cool," where there were 25 us marshals in on
busts. *sigh*  ah well i guess we'll just look forward
to the next one and hope we can all fit. =/


--- adam_louis <adam_louis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> rave culture is not in a rut...
> midwest is not in a rut...
> technology is not in a rut...
> music is not in a rut...
> art is not in a rut...
> fashion is not in a rut...
> 
> everyone is not in a rut...
> 
> i am not in a rut
> 
> you guys aparently are in ruts...
> i encourage you to liberate yourselves...
> 
> because i've experienced parties like
> you 'dream' of below brennen...
> 
> you acurately describe
> why i go to parties
> 
> you should come
> visit st louis
> sometime...
> 
> 
> adam_louis

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 10:39:03 2000
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also correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe the program allows a public
student to choose which public school they attend in their school district.
Also, the credit that can be used at a private school is only a "partial"
credit, not a blank check.

-t

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>Just a quick question to any Wisconsin head out there willing to
>answer...I was watching the Democratic debate at the Apollo and one of
>them mentioned that there was some type of voucher program in Milwaukee
>for school choice.  Just wanted to know how that program works up there.

well, jerry, i'm not going to say that i know everything about the milwaukee

school voucher system.  but, from what i do know, it allows low-income 
students the chance to attend private schools (including religious schools, 
hence much of the controversy) through state-funded tuition credit.  it was 
instituted about 2 years ago, if i recall correctly, and has been getting a 
lot of flak since its establishment.  it has only been used in the milwaukee

school district.

...........................................................
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...........................................................
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 10:47:25 2000
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it's not to impressive.

--- : MeOw: : HoUsKiTteN Tue Feb 22 20: 43:
37@rocketmail.com,
UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS_IN_GROUP@.SYNTAX-ERROR.;;;;;,
"::MeOw:: HoUsKiTteN" <houskitten@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Uh oh, you've engaged my curiosity. Please do tell,
> what's it like trying
> >to have sex while rolling? :)
> 
> there is one thing I have always, and will continue
> to avoid. I worry that 
> experiencing sex while rolling would make sex
> without narcotics paler in 
> comparison. I don't think I want to jeopardize
> that...
> 
> kitten
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 14:01:52 2000
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you should try fucking after taking 10 rails of crystal.

talk about messy....

hehehe, 
jester the raver molester



teddy bear <rollin_ecstacy@yahoo.com> wrote: 

it's not to impressive.

--- : MeOw: : HoUsKiTteN Tue Feb 22 20: 43:
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> >Uh oh, you've engaged my curiosity. Please do tell,
> what's it like trying
> >to have sex while rolling? :)
> 
> there is one thing I have always, and will continue
> to avoid. I worry that 
> experiencing sex while rolling would make sex
> without narcotics paler in 
> comparison. I don't think I want to jeopardize
> that...
> 
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> 
> it's not to impressive.
> 
> --- : MeOw: : HoUsKiTteN Tue Feb 22 20: 43:
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> > >Uh oh, you've engaged my curiosity. Please do tell,
> > what's it like trying
> > >to have sex while rolling? :)
> > 
> > there is one thing I have always, and will continue
> > to avoid. I worry that 
> > experiencing sex while rolling would make sex
> > without narcotics paler in 
> > comparison. I don't think I want to jeopardize
> > that...
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>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:46:54 GMT
>From: "the girl who fears chad" <yellowgirl69@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [mw] fyi

>attetion djs.
>if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.

>love,
>jaimmie

Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you 
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I'm surprised noone is talking about this party...Yeah its 36 bucks for 
presale, but its hawtin - plus the rest of the lineup is huge.  
dieselboy, acquaviva, nigel richards, hardfloor, etc...

I was initially concerned with the fact that this is Chicago, and the 
fact that they are expecting 6000 kids - where to put all those 
raverbabies in chitown?  But now the website (www.boogietribe.com) has 
the venue info posted - its at an Expo center in a suburb outside of 
Chicago.  The fact that the venue info was posted by the beginning of 
this week makes it seem safer - I'm sure it wouldn't be posted on the www 
if it wasn't completely legit.  

So, anyone planning on going, besides me?  Looks like you want to get 
presales, or at least go to Untitled on Saturday, early, to make sure you 
get tickets.

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okay so i was watching the news a few weeks ago and they had a story about a 
nerd boy in indy i think who was in counciling for almost going columbine on 
his school and when they pointed out the violent music he listened to they 
showed a clip of Weird AL Yankovic at a concert accordian in hand screeching 
"we're all gonna diiiiiiieee!"
my question
WTF?
>As far as I'm concerned (in regards to the media) they need to get their 
>shit
>together and maybe to a little research before spouting loads of 
>bullshit...
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>>I'm surprised noone is talking about this party...

Blah blah blah.

>>Yeah its 36 bucks for presale, but its hawtin

OMG!!!  Let me take off all my clothes and run around naked and jump up and 
down in front of my boss's office screaming "It's Hawtin for God's Sake!"

>>dieselboy, acquaviva,

Damien and John are MUCH MORE worthy of praise than Richie...

>>its at an Expo center in a suburb outside of Chicago.

Photon is a great venue for parties.

>>...this week makes it seem safer

It's never safe...trust nobody.

>>I'm sure it wouldn't be posted on the www if it wasn't completely legit.

Are you sure you're sure?

Jim

PS - The above is called sarcasm.  Just relax, go boogie down, I'll be at a 
better party that night.  :)  Yes folks, there are BETTER parties without 
Richie.  Mwuahahahaah.
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 14:36:36 2000
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>So, anyone planning on going, besides me?

Well, I'm sure there are PLENTY of folks
going.  But I'm not.

I'm done with Chicago and its promises of
glitter and gold!!!  FALSE GOLD, I tell ya!
FOOLS GOLD!!!!

No, really, I think this party is way too
big and has been publicized WAY TOO MUCH
for my tastes!  And yeah, I'm referring
to Mayor Daley's (hopefully idle) threats
on the Chicago rave community!

This will be the test though.  Jazzamatazz
went off without a hitch!  So did the
following week's JAZZAMATAZZ, AGAIN.
But those parties weren't promoted NEAR
as hard and heavily as LOTD3.  If Daley makes
an example out of ANY party, it'll be this
one.

If this goes off well, I think I'll be
pretty Chicago-Bound again.  But, I'm
not risking dealing with the lines,
the crowd, the shitty and mean security,
and all the other shit associated with
an event expectation of about 6000+.

No...

I'm hoping AREA 51 is doing something.

Or Maybe I'll go to that Indy Party?

But I don'thave any info on that.

Anybody got a flier or something from that
party????

Anyway, no disrespect to the promoters.
But, I just don't trust what the law
enforcement agency will do to this event!

I hope nothing!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 14:59:20 2000
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> Message written by RaverBoyy@hotmail.com

> Or Maybe I'll go to that Indy Party?

> But I don'thave any info on that.

> Anybody got a flier or something from that
> party????

Yeah, it's called "Dirty Little Secret"

The info line is 317 375 7975
$15 before Midnight
$20 after


It has David Hollands, Ben Man, Greg Haus (who plays
at BERLIN in Chi-Town), Chocolate The Freaky Afronaut
(you're fave!) and K-Step (WHO IS BAD-THE-FUCK-ASS!!!)

I'm going!  Though, admittedly I want to go to 
Chicago.  But I, too am pretty scared of what might
happen.  I'm paranoid, though, and I'm scared shit'll
go down and 4000+ kids will riot and that's how I'll
die!  18, still a virgin, and not a penny to my name!

;-)

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I spin almost exclusively in the dining room, have so for over 5 years now.  But
that's not because I don't want to share, or that my music isn't popular, it's
because I don't frequent social circles and I've never liked the taste of dick.
Plus, whenever I tried to self-promote, I felt adrift in a sea of jungle djs...so
I would give up and remain a dining room dj.  That's okay with me though, I'm not
*too* bitter.

Say...If anyone wants to book a very well-skilled old-school mashup jungle dj
from Cincinnati, get in touch.

peace...gregori

Tad wrote:

> Then why ever bother leaving your 'bedroom'??  I mean... really most of the
> djs I know, dj for love of the music *and* because they want to share the
> music with people who love it.  (but hey most the djs I know are pussy-ass
> trance djs).   If you just want to play music that you love... and thats
> the only part of the equation so what?  if you want to share it with others
> (who love it, or might be shown it) then yeah dj, or promote... or do
> both...  Why would you want to bother playing at a party where no one is
> going to like your music?


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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> what the fuk's a hare-lipped asian?

I guess you don't know what a hare-lip is.  It's when there is a split
in the upper lip, resembling a cat or a hare (rabbit).  Known to be a
common deformality among asians...now that's not racism, that's just
truth.

> ...you mean he had a
> rabbit attached to his lips?...i think you mean hairy lipped
> asian!...and even then your story is still full of holes!...
> because asians for the most part are not hairy!!

wow, you're absolutely right!!!  too bad you're way off point

> ...a hard
> balled negotiator?...i've never met a hard balled asian in
> my entire life!...and i'm asian!

*scoff*  Maybe if you were more in touch with anything real, you'd be
aware that there are all kinds.  Just because you're a fucking pansy
dosn't mean the rest of your people are too.  I've met very few asians
that weren't matter-of-fact and to the point.  Especially japanese
business men, they are far from being soft-balled teddy bears.

> ...i can see an asian being
> overly passive and lettin da white man walk all the fuk
> over them, but hard balled?...god damn, why do white people
> have to come up with such far-fetched bull shit stories to
> try to cover up their shadiness all the time?

I dunno, why don't you tell me how it *really* happened, clue-master...

> ...the truth was
> you were paid $1.50 more than him & he outperformed the
> fuk outta you & you became a jealous hater & made up bull
> shit stories about him to get him fired, which is exactly
> what happened at my last jobs...white people hate gettin
> beat, so they always resort to cheating or lieing to compensate
> for their insecurities...just like after jesse owens took the
> olympics during WWII by storm & womped the fuk outta hitler's
> master race...hitler started talkin all this bullshit...whateva...
> everybody saw what really happened...just as everybody is seein
> what's goin on here now...

good argument, you've convinced the socks off me.  I take it all back,
it's not your attitude, it's your fucking stupidity.  Teamed with your
cunning ability to relate meaningless and trivial thoughts into
absolutely no point whatsoever, you are a pathetic force to be reckoned
with.  I laugh in your general direction.

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> Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you
> rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.

    Aren't most of the twin cities hardcore events punk-hardcore stuff? I've
only heard of one all-hardcore event, which wasn't all-hardcore, and it
flopped miserably. Maybe I'm completely clueless on a big subculture here in
the twin cities, but I sincerely doubt it...

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"Father H. J. O'Blivion, Dkr." <jr_bob_dobbs@hotmail.com> wrote: 

>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:46:54 GMT
>From: "the girl who fears chad" <yellowgirl69@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [mw] fyi

>attetion djs.
>if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.

>love,
>jaimmie

Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you 
rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.

...Zion??...  is it?? could it be??   MILWAUKEE is the PROMISED LAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!....

YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Im going to milwaukee this summer, anyone got any floor space for me and me moll??

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"Father H. J. O'Blivion, Dkr." <jr_bob_dobbs@hotmail.com> wrote: 

>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:46:54 GMT
>From: "the girl who fears chad" <yellowgirl69@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [mw] fyi

>attetion djs.
>if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.

>love,
>jaimmie

Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you 
rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.

...Zion??...  is it?? could it be??   MILWAUKEE is the PROMISED LAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!....

YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Im going to milwaukee this summer, anyone got any floor space for me and me moll??

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"Father H. J. O'Blivion, Dkr." <jr_bob_dobbs@hotmail.com> wrote: 

>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:46:54 GMT
>From: "the girl who fears chad" <yellowgirl69@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [mw] fyi

>attetion djs.
>if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.

>love,
>jaimmie

Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you 
rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.

...Zion??...  is it?? could it be??   MILWAUKEE is the PROMISED LAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!....

YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Im going to milwaukee this summer, anyone got any floor space for me and me moll??

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"Father H. J. O'Blivion, Dkr." <jr_bob_dobbs@hotmail.com> wrote: 

>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:46:54 GMT
>From: "the girl who fears chad" <yellowgirl69@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [mw] fyi

>attetion djs.
>if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.

>love,
>jaimmie

Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you 
rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.

...Zion??...  is it?? could it be??   MILWAUKEE is the PROMISED LAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!....

YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Im going to milwaukee this summer, anyone got any floor space for me and me moll??

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oops. my mail fuckered up, sorry bout that!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 15:31:43 2000
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In Chicago or not, I don't think there's a better party going on 
anywhere.......hawtin, acquaviva, 3d, lawrence, danny the wild child, 
dieselboy, paul johnson, and everybody else everybody else has already 
mentioned........it's worth the risk, it's only money.  I'm poor as hell, but 
oh well.  I'll give it a shot.

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Hey guy, quit sending me that email! I got it like 5 or 6 times.


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> >Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:46:54 GMT
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> >Subject: [mw] fyi
>
> >attetion djs.
> >if you want your hardcore to be appreciated, come to milwaukee.
>
> >love,
> >jaimmie
>
>Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you
>rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.
>
>...Zion??...  is it?? could it be??   MILWAUKEE is the PROMISED 
>LAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!....
>
>YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
>
>Im going to milwaukee this summer, anyone got any floor space for me and me 
>moll??
>
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>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 16:40:40 2000
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You think that's bad, you should see me on the IDM list sometimes.  And I
WRITE IDM!  

Nothing is sacred, dammit.  And nothing should be accepted without
questioning.  As soon as we have complacency, things start to suck.  That
is my problem with trance- it has reached a complete formula and I have
heard little innovation in it in a long time.  This is the same problem I
have with gabber (ooh, a distorted 909 and a sample that says "fuck"), IDM
(clicky drums and happy synths, wank wank wank), jungle (please tell me
the last jungle song that surprised you at all.  especially tech step),
techno (i don't even need to say anything here) and any other genre which
I didn't mention.

I think that as soon as it is a genre, it's probably not worth writing
anymore if you're looking to be at all innovative.  This is much like my
theory that as soon as you have a "scene," it's probably time to move on
because that means it's just going to be a bunch of people who are there
for the wrong reasons.

This is the same reason that a lot of DJs "like" to clear the floor- if
you're trying to be experimental, then the fact that a good portion of the
people don't like you would be a good sign that you're not sticking to the
standard formula.  I remember when jungle used to clear a room, and now
it's one of the most played out genres around.

As Jon Gotti said, raving didn't start out as anything more than people
wanting to dance all night.  People came into this a few years later and
decided that they wanted to be part of something bigger- a common desire
of people, particularly young and/or insecure people (dare I cite
"Industrial Society and Its Future?").   So they started trying to
attribute values to music whose only purpose was to make people shake
their asses all night long, admittedly a therapeutic thing.  Raving is an
escape from real life, it's the perfect thing to do on a weekend to forget
about your stressful week.  That's why there is such a focus on
psychedelic drugs and atmosphere- people want to ease the crushing pain of
modern life (a dollar to anybody that catches that reference).

But people came along and decided that it should mean something more- they
started throwing parties called "Right to Dance" and declared that they
were being put down by the man.  They started saying things like "raving
is not a crime" and talking about how underground they were.  Hell, I'd
say raving is the perfect answer to the superstructure's problem- it keeps
anybody who would be doing anything productive busy doing drugs, listening
to bad music and not actually doing anything about the real problems they
are facing.

This is why I love things like c8 (http://www.c8.com/), they actually
recognize that music used to be a political thing- and they're trying to
bring that back.  Sure, people who write trance might have some strong
political views, but they certainly aren't expressing them through that
drum roll.  Especially not when it's being spun by a DJ making a few
thousand dollars to play at a venue packed full of thousands of kids who
stole their parents' money or sold bunk drugs to their best friends so
that they could sit around all weekend melting in a corner talking about
"PLUR." 

I know we've all taken psychedelic drugs and thought we had everything
figured out- thought we had found our own little utopia.  But it's really
easy to believe that when you couldn't even walk 50 feet if you had to.
Raving is not a catalyst at all- if nothing else it just inspires
complacency and conformity.  And it certainly does not promote peace,
love, unity or respect.  

This is why I am such an asshole- this is why I'm constantly making fun of
genres and making fun of PLUR.  Sure you say these things now, but
tomorrow morning when the rave is over you'll probably be making fun of
somebody who isn't wearing pants that are as fat as yours, or screwing
over somebody you love in order to make money.  You certainly won't be
upholding the values that you claim you do, because the rave scene is just
full of assholes looking out for themselves, just like the majority of
society. 

Certainly there are idealists who honestly believe in and uphold these
values, but they are few and far between- the rest just say it a lot
because they heard that's what you're supposed to do when you're "ROLLING
SO HARD" and walking around with your pacifier and tigger doll.

Anyway, it's way too early for me to be awake, so this post was probably
mostly incoherent- I apologize.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 16:46:34 2000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
> Yes i am miffed about the fact that atomly insulted the genre of music
> I like. Why? Because it's fucking stupid, pointless, immature and
> childish. We each like our own thing and I am tired of explaining the
> concept of open-mindness to the people in here.

Please don't try to preach open-mindedness to me.  I don't mean to come
off as an arrogant asshole, but I know I am much more open minded-
musically and otherwise- than almost anybody you know.  That is the entire
reason that I make fun of genres, as I said in my last post.

Genres simply provide a means for record companies to move records and
ignorant people to be able to listen to music without having to think too
hard about whether they like it or not ("Ooh, this is trance!  I like
trance, right guys?  Trance is still cool, isn't it?  OK, then I really
like this track!)

> And what point are you trying to make by saying that I shouldn't talk
> trash unless I can take it? You don't see me flooding this list with
> idiotic one liner gay insults such as "hardcore blows ass" or "i
> *heart* richie". 

Hell, you should be- most hardcore does blow ass!  And I make more fun of
Richie than anybody I know.  :)

> P.S. I *heart* Doormouse.

I don't even want to go into what I think of Doormouse, but let's just say
you can read his webpage and figure out what I think of him, and a good
portion of the "hardcore" scene, based off of what you know of my
philosophical opinions. 

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> 
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
> > Yes i am miffed about the fact that atomly insulted the genre of music
> > I like. Why? Because it's fucking stupid, pointless, immature and
> > childish. We each like our own thing and I am tired of explaining the
> > concept of open-mindness to the people in here.
> 
> Please don't try to preach open-mindedness to me.  I don't mean to come
> off as an arrogant asshole, but I know I am much more open minded-
> musically and otherwise- than almost anybody you know.  That is the entire
> reason that I make fun of genres, as I said in my last post.

How can you know shit about htis other guy.  You just did come off as
arrogent egocentric asshole.  Sorry.  And learn to write, dont' appolagize
for your opinions.  And if you're so open minded why are you so quick to
judge and classify people? 
 
> Genres simply provide a means for record companies to move records and
> ignorant people to be able to listen to music without having to think too
> hard about whether they like it or not ("Ooh, this is trance!  I like
> trance, right guys?  Trance is still cool, isn't it?  OK, then I really
> like this track!)
> 

Huh?  I listen to music because of the feeling it gives me.  I don't
listen to listen to trance or techno or whatever because it's what my
friends are listening too.  I apolagize that I don't have time to look for
new inovative music out there all day I have a carear, friends, a
boyfriend.  I love music, but I cannot commit my life to it.  The right
build, or the right sounds put togehter can give me a feeling better than
rolling - better than any drug.  It makes me happy.  I know alot of trance
will do that for me.  On the same note Funk can give me a ton of energy if
I'm in the right mood.  To say a musical genre is a bad thing because
someone may listen to it because their friends do is bullshit.  

My impression here is that you're so wrapped up in being unique and the
idealogy behind music that you've lost the entire point of music - to make
on feel good and have fun.  I can see more simularities with you and the
kid who listen to trance cause it's cool then the guy defending his love
of trance.  There are leaders, and there are followors, and not all of us
can lead.  But we can give to hte common goal of getting where we're going
to reach something better.  I haven't seen a hint of a suggestion of
acomplishing this sacred goal of yours to create new inovative music.
You're not throwing out suggestions on how to make things better in the
scene today.  YOu're just bitching.  And if it's one thing I've learned in
life it's surround yourself with unique, motivated individuals, and not
people who are constatnly complaining, unhappy and think they're of a
better class than everyone else.  If you stop and look around you'll
realise that crack whore on teh street, or that raver dancing, or that
soccer mom driving her kids to school are alot more like you.  We're all
human.  Accept people for indivduals, not memebers of a group.
 
> > And what point are you trying to make by saying that I shouldn't talk
> > trash unless I can take it? You don't see me flooding this list with
> > idiotic one liner gay insults such as "hardcore blows ass" or "i
> > *heart* richie". 
> 
> Hell, you should be- most hardcore does blow ass!  And I make more fun of
> Richie than anybody I know.  :)

Why?  Do you have anything constructive to say at all or you looking ofr
attention?
 
> > P.S. I *heart* Doormouse.
> 
> I don't even want to go into what I think of Doormouse, but let's just say
> you can read his webpage and figure out what I think of him, and a good
> portion of the "hardcore" scene, based off of what you know of my
> philosophical opinions. 
> 
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> Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make you
> rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.

Unless your talking about the punk scene, 1000+ is a gross overstatement. I
have never been to an all electronic hardcore party here with more than 200
people. 1000+ is what highly advertised raves get around here, not poorly
advertised hardcore events!

but if your talking about the hardcore straight edge scene then thats a
different story entirely...

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Ok everyone just wanted to give everyone the line up..

Stillwind          San Francisco
Eric Holland       San Francisco
Z-Trip             Albuquerque, NM
DJ P               Springfield, MO
Hardkor            Albuquerque, NM
PMS                KC
Stormy             KC
MC Scenario        KC
Cynik              OKC
Dj Rob Lee         Springfield, MO
Johnny Scott       KC
Gee Sko            KC
Chris Bobbit       KC

7000 person venue... Email me for presale tickets $15

or you can email Kat at skat@hotmail.com

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REMINDER:  Twine performance tonight at the Europe Gyro in Kent.  Show 
begins at 10:00ish.

ALso: Check out the new issue of  THE FREE TIMES, Twine is interviewed:  
http://freetimes.com/issues/823/music-locals.php3


UPCOMING PERFORMANCES:
Feb. 23rd Europe Gyro, Kent
Feb. 26 Pat's in the Flats, Cleveland
March 17th Funky Charms chill room, info line:330.677.6495


twine . . .
                             ..
                              _

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In a message dated 2/23/00 1:13:27 AM, cellophane_808@hotmail.com writes:

<<maybe i just missed it but who was i supposed to contact about the tickets 
and the whole debacle that happened in louisville?

peace-
chad>>

OK, here is a message I received from JJ Haws.  in case any of you don't know 
him from back in the day, he is one of the promoters who threw the event in 
Louisville last weekend.  He also holds the Dreamfest weekend every year 
which developed from Interstellar Outback.

Speaking from personal experience, I can say that JJ is a man of his word & 
truly has an interest in what is best for the midwest electronic music scene.

-trev

<<pass this along to anyone you think should know if you would...

we did our best in a shitty situation. we are not shady motherfuckers
who are going to run
off with everyone's money.

please tell everyone who wishes to directly contact us to please do so.

please tell everyone with tickets to save them, and either email or
snailmail us their full
names, addresses, emails, and to spread the word to others to do the
same.

please tell those who paid cash at the door but did not get a ticket to
email this address, or
write to:

untranslatable co.
960 B Baxter Ave
louisville KY 40204

we will contact everyone
when scheduling allows richie and us and you to accomplish what we all
set out to do. I do know that whatever
happens, I will try my damnedest to make things right.>>

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Adam F Metropolis
P.S.- I don't always want music to make me think, sometimes I just want it 
to rock.

>jungle (please tell me the last jungle song that surprised you at all.  
> >especially tech step),


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Not in Detroit.

>I remember when jungle used to clear a room, and now
>it's one of the most played out genres around.

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Liquid Groove presents...

LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE:
The Festival of Sound

Saturday April 1st 2000
Atlanta GA
North Atlanta Trade Center

For many years now Liquid Groove have consistently organized top quality
events on a  regular basis, bringing together some of the finest musical
minds from all over the world. LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE will be the pinnacle of
our existence so far. We have spared no expense in putting together a
production and a line-up to take it to the next level. Welcome to the
future.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


- RABBIT IN THE MOON
  (hallucination, fl)


- SASHA
 (twilo, northern exposure, UK)


- JOHN DIGWEED
  (twilo, bedrock, UK)


- GROOVERIDER
  (metalheadz, UK)


- FABIO
  (metalheadz, Uk)


- JIM MASTERS
  (ultimate base, UK)


- GARTH
  (greyhound, wicked crew, san fran)


- MONK
  (hallucination, tampa)


- J-LUV
  (rewind, outerlimits, atlanta)


- BOBBLE
  (20 hz cartel, rewind, atlanta)


- CHRISTIAN MICHAEL
  (protoculture, ATA, atlanta)


- ULISES
  (columbia cartel, atlanta)


SOUND:
The main arena will be filled with the largest Turbosound system ever
assembled in the southeast. 168 Cabinets of pure unadulterated Turbosound.
In addition to this the second room will also feature full Turbosound.


LASERS:
PAWN LASERS:
PAWN will be stopping in Atlanta on there way home from
the winter music conference with 3 vans full of an arsenal of laser systems.
Your experience will include multiple laser projections, some never seen
before in the US. The latest in laser  technology, color, and computer
controlled artificial intelligent laser systems that our government will
allow. Based out of Philadelphia ... they travel far and wide supplying 3d
animated interactive laser shows. This weekend using 4 separate laser
systems, PAWN will elevate your subconscious state and open the gate of your
reality to creatively stimulate  your senses. Check them out at
WWW.PAWNLASERS.COM


VISUALS:
O.V.T. of Chicago will be enlightening our minds with a massive display
of twisted, morphing video projections. As well as a full intelligent
lighting system designed and installed by ACTIVE LIGHTING, Atlanta.


DECORATIONS:
Arranged by Liquid Groove


LOCATION:
NORTH ATLANTA TRADE CENTER
North atlantas premier exhibit facility and one of the largest exposition
facilities in the southeast, offering 120,000 sq feet of exhibit space, all
indoors, in climate control comfort and split up into 2 Massive rooms. Well
lighted,
FREE parking is steps from the main entrance. The facility offers handicap
accessibility, Tons and Tons of clean restrooms,  an public telephones. More
then 5000 hotel rooms are within a 7 mile radius of the North Atlanta Trade
center. A wide range of accommodations available from budget motels to
luxury hotels. check out www.liquified.com for hotel information.


MAIN ROOM:
9:00 -10:00 -  Ulises
10:00 -12:00 - Monk
12:00 -2:00 -  Rabbit in the Moon
2:00 -8:00 -  Sasha and John Digweed

ROOM 2:

9:00 - 10:00 - Bobble
10:00 - 11:00 - Christian Michael
11:00 - 12:00 - J-Luv
12:00 - 2:00 - Garth
2:00 - 6:00 - Grooverider and Fabio
6:00 - 8:00 - Jim Masters

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TICKETS:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tickets go on sale february 28th

$25 unitl March 15th
$30 after
$15 if you turn in your ticket stub from 5.1 at your nearest ticket outlet.

BEWARE OF FORGERIES
Buy tickets ONLY from these stores -
$1 surcharge at some ticket locations

Wish L5P  404-880-0402
Wish  770-814-0940
Rewind  404-827-9463
Satellite 404-880-9746
Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
Bad Seed: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-933-7333
Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
R.P.M.: (Savannah, GA) - 912-234-0093
Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
Manifest: (greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
Smoke: (Gainsville, FL) - 352-379-7670
Vinyl Frontier: (Orlando, FL) - 407-872-1844



**NOTE THE WEBSITE WILL BE UP AND RUNNING BY FEBUARY 26TH!

Or you can purchase tickets online by going to www.liquified.com and
following the link for online ticket sales.

Mail order ticket requests must be recieved by 3/15/00. For info call
404-257-2515 or log on to www.liquified.com

If you are interested in organizing a bus trip or if you want to find out if
a bus trip is being planned in a city near you log onto www.liquified.com

Anyone interested in Vending you can e-mail us at
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-18 and over welcome with proper ID

- Doors open at 9:00 pm - ARRIVE EARLY

- We will have multiple entry lines with Over 30 security guards to ensure
quick and safe entry into the event.

- No bags or Markers: PLEASE RESPECT THIS VENUE


NORTH ATLANTA TRADE CENTER
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FROM THE SOUTH: Take I-75/85 north into downtown atlanta. I-75/85 merge in
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I-85 north towards greenville. Go up I-85 and get off at the Indian Trail
exit (the exit numbers are changing so the exit number will be either 38 or
101). At your first light (indian trail) go right. Go to Oakbrook pkwy and
make a right. Go 1/2 mile to Jeurgens court and make a right. Venue is right
in front of you.


FROM THE NORTH EAST: Take I-85 south toward atlanta. Get off at Indian Trail
exit (exit numbers are changing so the exit number will be either 38 or 101)
At the first light you come to go left onto indian trail. Cross over hwy and
go to Oakbrook pkwy and turn right. Go 1/2 mile to jeurgens court and turn
right. Venue is straight in front of you.


FROM THE EAST: Take I-20 west towards atlanta. Before you get to atlanta you
will get onto I-285 north. Take I-285 north till you get to the exit for
I-85 north. Go I-85 north to Indian Trail exit. (exit numbers are changing
so the exit number will be either 38 or 101) At your first light (indian
trail) go right. Go to Oakbrook pkwy and make a right. Go 1/2 mile to
Jeurgens court and make a right. Venue is right in front of you.


FROM THE WEST: Take I-20 east into downtown atlanta. Get onto I-75/85 north
and then follow the directions from the south.


FROM THE MIDWEST AREA: Get to I-75 south. Go I-75 south towards atlanta.
Before you get to atlanta Take I-285 east. Take I-285 east to I-85 North. Go
up I-85 and get off at the Indian Trail exit (the exit numbers are changing
so the exit number will be either 38 or 101). At your first light (indian
trail) go right. Go to Oakbrook pkwy and make a right. Go 1/2 mile to
Jeurgens court and make a right. Venue is right in front of you.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 18:34:16 2000
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In what fucking city, I wanna go their.
signed
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> >I remember when jungle used to clear a room, and
> now
> >it's one of the most played out genres around.
> 
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> <Hey Tsar, trance sucks!>

up your ass comie!!!!!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 19:15:12 2000
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>If I'm not mistaken, GHB was first used by weight trainers looking to 
bulk 
>up- similar to steroids. GHB helps the muscles heal faster after a work 
out. 
>As far as I'm concerned (in regards to the media) they need to get 
their shit 
>together and maybe to a little research before spouting loads of 
bullshit... 
>but then again, that's probably asking the impossible.
>
>Naen,
>Brennen

that may be so, but the difference between bodybuilders and hedonistic 
raverdorks is obvious.  bodybuilders take it for health reasons; ravers 
take it to intentionally get stupid...and usually do.

it can be lethal when mixed with alcohol, and too many times lately i've 
seen people dosed with GHB without their knowledge.  that's fucked up.

the media may get their facts twisted a lot of times, but the fact is, 
GHB is fucked up and people keep getting off the hook on the shit.

i'm tired of people defending the shit.

shiva

p.s. not jumping your case...just sick

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They have lots of albums. The most electronic is Electroshock for
President. IT FUCKING ROCKS MY ASS OUT.

matt

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Tad wrote:

> At 11:12 PM 2/22/00 EST, DJDolorem@aol.com wrote:
> >Is there a sub-genre of electronic music that incorporates punk into it? I 
> >don't mean just hardcore with a little punk influence but something with
> more 
> >of an mxpx feel. You think it would work?
> >
> 
> I think your more likely to find electro-influenced punk music...  there
> was a dayton band "Braniac" that kinda fit that category...  They were
> really really good.. unfortunatley the lead singer (I think he also
> programmed most of the synths and waht not) drove his car into a telephone
> pole and died :(  
> 
> Look for an album called 'Smack Bunny baby' or is it 'Smack Baby Bunny'  I
> cant quite recall.. its really good though.
> 
> tad
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What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in Chicago?




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 19:36:53 2000
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this sunday, chemlab.org brings you:

i m b a l a n c e 2

the second in a series of homegrown online events.

featuring the talents of :

smoov [downlow]
doc cutups [pbs]
count zEro [pbs]
superstar dj ike jones [pbs]
ava mystik [infinite velocity]

the show will start around 6:00pm EST and will go until the colt 45 runs
out.

more info?

http://chemlab.org

later,
-steve ;>

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1. Paul Okenfold
2. Sasha and Digweed
3. Huggie

> 
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> What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in Chicago?
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what the fuck is goin on memorial day weekend...there had BETTER be a 
campout of some sort...come on people...WHATS GOIN ON?!?!?!?!

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>>up your ass comie!!!!!!

Oooh...talk dirty to me baby!  *wink wink*  :)

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>> What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in Chicago?
>> 
>> 

DJ TSAR BABAY!!!!!!

nothing but the best to reprezent in fuckin chi-town!!!!!!!

fuck all those other djs.....none of them can come close to DJ TSAR!!!!!!!

WERD to y0 moms

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> > Ditto twin cities. You can find $5 all hardcore parties that wont make 
>you
> > rich, but you'll have 1000+ hardcore fans bugging.
>
>Unless your talking about the punk scene, 1000+ is a gross overstatement. I
>have never been to an all electronic hardcore party here with more than 200
>people. 1000+ is what highly advertised raves get around here, not poorly
>advertised hardcore events!
>
>but if your talking about the hardcore straight edge scene then thats a
>different story entirely...
>
>Brandon
>

sorry, extra zero in there...
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I would like to add that I do not know who this "ricA"
person is, nor is he in any way affiliated with the
"Superstar DJ Tsar for President in 2000" campaign.
My lawyers are currently getting in contact with his
lawyers to star the process of a lawsuit for using my
DJ name without my written consent. 

Misha
DJ Tsar =)

--- ricA <ricasha@netzero.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> >> What progressive and/or trance artist would you
> like to see in Chicago?
> >> 
> >> 
> 
> DJ TSAR BABAY!!!!!!
> 
> nothing but the best to reprezent in fuckin
> chi-town!!!!!!!
> 
> fuck all those other djs.....none of them can come
> close to DJ TSAR!!!!!!!
> 
> WERD to y0 moms
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On 02/23/2000 1:13 PM djshiva prophesized the following:


> i'm tired of people defending the shit.
> 
> shiva
> 
> p.s. not jumping your case...just sick
> 

i am fukkin sick and tired of hearing you talk shit about...i think pretty
much everyone on this list knows your opionion on it by now....so drop it
already, if someone is going to do it with the way most of these people
think and act they are going to do it and nothing you say will stop
them...you have your opinions and others have theirs



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I am chaos.  I am the substance from which your artists
and scientists build rhythms.  I am the spirit from which
your children and clowns laugh in happy anarchy.
I am chaos.  I am alive and tell you that you are free.

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I claim no affiliation to this so called hortence whatsoever.  Hortence is
an imposter i tell u!

bekka.


----- Original Message -----
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> HI I AM HORTENCE. SORRY I AM TYPING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS, I USED TOTYPE
IN
> ALTERNATING UPPER AND LOWER CASES, UNTIL I DROPPED A BLOW POP ON MY
KEYBOARD
> AND GOT BLOW POP GIZZ ON MY SHIFT KEY AND NOW I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPITAL
> LETTERS.
> I LIKE RAVES. I AM A GIRL. I LIKE BOYS. I LIVE IN CANADA. I KNOW BEKKA.
SHE
> IS MY FRIEND. I SWEEP THE STREET I LIVE ON WHEN I AM NOT WORKING AS A
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I like the shit...



*tranerek is hardcore*

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Hey all, 
   Lil' Diva productions is back w/ its next event:
		JUNGLE WARFARE!!
Come see some of the best regional junglists teach you
a little JUNGLE WARFARE!
March 31st, 2000 @ The Electric Groove Box in Nashville, TN!
Doors open at 10pm! ID required! $TBA Info lines:(615)201-2423 &
(615)400-3815!
	Room 1				     	    Room 2
10pm-12am     HAVOK		10PM-12:30AM	 B-PLUS & MENACE	
             Nashville  		          High Society	   	
12am-1:30am   BLONDIE		12:30AM-2AM	 LARY BREAKS 
	     King Funk				  Assembly Required
             THE 20 HrTz CARTEL		         WORLD CONSPIRACY
1:30AM-3AM       BOBBLE		2AM-3AM		      MISS K
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4:30AM-6AM    DORIAN		4:30AM-6AM	 MK2
	    Goodfellaz				 Nashville
Directions from I-24, I-40, & I65N: Take I-65 South to Wedgewood Exit!
turn right! Turn left at first trafic light! The Electric Groove Box is
on the right, next to the Captian D's Seafood!
Directions from I-65S: Take I-65 North to Wedgewood Exit! Turn left!
Turn left at first traffic light! The Electric Groove Box is on the
right, next to Captain D's!
Also watch for DIVAS OF THE DANCEFLOOR 2(april 28th), SUPAFLY 2(May,
11th)
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I am.  I am at Purdue University.  What time you going to be in town
(Cleveland)?  Peace.


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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> In what fucking city, I wanna go their.

Minneapolis- home of the NTC, formerly JVC (Jungle Vibe Collective).  More
played out jungle than you can shake a stick at.

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to respond to this.... i have to say that everyone is entitled to his or her 
own opinion. such a negative reaction to ones own opinion is kinda imature. 
to tell you the truth i really dont like trance to much either. but that is 
also my opinion...


>From: Bak*Edit <dani2@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: Bak*Edit <dani2@mindspring.com>
>To: "Kevin M. Ryan" <kevinryan@students.wisc.edu>, mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] TRANCE GOES TRAILERPARK ON YO ASS
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:04:36 -0800
>
>At 11:43 PM 2/22/00 -0600, Kevin M. Ryan wrote:
> >You dissin' trance, punk?
> >
> >Let me tell you something, bitch.
> >
> >You step to trance, you step to Kevin Ryan.
> >
> >And Kevin Ryan is one bad mutha you don't
> >wanna mess with.
> >
> >First, Mr. Ryan will say nasty things about your
> >mother.  Second, Mr. Ryan will proceed to fuck
> >shit up.  Third, Mr. Ryan will rip off your expensive
> >sneakers and coolly vacate the scene.  Lastly, Mr.
> >Ryan will contact Ms. Payer and make
> >arrangements for you at the Smackdown Hotel.
> >
> >That's right, fool.
> >
> >It's time to pay the bills.
> >
> >So who wants a piece of this?
> >
> >I assure you, there's plenty to go around.
> >
> >Atomly, Chrise, Mattdemmon...Who wants to go first?
> >
> >You gonna knock the international trance scene?
> >
> >Aw haw haw, bitch, now it's personal.
> >
> >Why don't you come over here and say that to my face?
> >
> >That's what I thought.
> >
> >Bam!
> >
> >Like that, muthafucka.
> >
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ok. i know this isnt exactly the right forum for this, but i really need to 
know cause its drivin me fuckin crazy and this is presently the only forum i 
have. so just reply privately and such.
ok.
theres a song..on a kill rock stars comp..but im not sure which comp it is 
..one of the 3 starskillrock/killrockstars/rockstarskill comps...its called 
(i think) 'only straight girls wear dresses'....if it isnt called that, then 
all i know is that that's the chorus. if ya know the song..or who does 
it..or even which krs comp it's on. lemme know. thank you. ;)
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The track is by CWA (bet you can't guess what that stands for!) and is on
Stars Kill Rock.

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i heard it on the radio today and i think there was someone asking about
it awhile back..  anyway the tix go on sale tonight at 7:00 
They will not be sold online or over the phone!!  they are playing at the
vic and tix will be sold there and at the tower record stores in
schaumburg and bloomindale and the one on clark street which is where ill
get mine tonight.


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All i have to say..is that Ron D. Core is the shit, Yo! If you didn' know=
 you
betta ask..somebody....


Fuego! :D

Acid Test 2...hmmmmmmmm


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So Check it....

I'm going to Phoenix again for Spring Break (march 17-26) for some partie=
s and
Tempe excitement as well as a little hiking and meditation in Sedona on t=
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it az-raves@hyperreal.org?  I signed on a while back, but I'm a crackhead=
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forgot.  =


help a traveling brotha out...need the info... :D



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Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
So Check it....

I'm going to Phoenix again for Spring Break (march 17-26) for some partie=
s
and
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Red Rox.  I'm wondering if Phoenix has a mailing list much like our own. =
 Is
it az-raves@hyperreal.org?  I signed on a while back, but I'm a crackhead=
 so
I
forgot.  =


help a traveling brotha out...need the info... :D



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>I'm going to Phoenix again for Spring Break (march 17-26) for some parties
and
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>Red Rox.  I'm wondering if Phoenix has a mailing list much like our own.  Is
>it az-raves@hyperreal.org?  I signed on a while back, but I'm a crackhead
so I
>forgot.  


Az-raves moved to egroups a little while ago.  The addy to sub is:

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>What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in >Chicago?

DJ DICA!

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Thanx Fergi *wink*  see you on a talker or something..chica


Fuego....

A facade is a facade..but with out imagination it's just a mask

:P




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and
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the
>Red Rox.  I'm wondering if Phoenix has a mailing list much like our own.=
  Is
>it az-raves@hyperreal.org?  I signed on a while back, but I'm a crackhea=
d
so I
>forgot.  =



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From: "Brett J" <shizzit45@hotmail.com>
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Raverboy:
<No, really, I think this party is way too
big and has been publicized WAY TOO MUCH
for my tastes!  And yeah, I'm referring
to Mayor Daley's (hopefully idle) threats
on the Chicago rave community!

If Daley makes
an example out of ANY party, it'll be this
one.>


Damn man its not even in Chicago!!  What is freakin' Daley gonna do, send 
Chicago cops to another town?  HAHAHAHA!!!  Outta his jurisdiction my man.  
Of course the party's been publicized, its a bigass party!  Hawtin and all 
the others aren't cheap; Boogie Tribe and Mushgroove would also like to make 
what is know as profit off of this little shindig.  But everyone must band 
together and place a collective ban on Dolton!  Yes, that's right, we should 
all boycott Dolton Expo for life!  I decided this about 9 months ago and 
it's doing wonders for my psyche.  Face it, everyone whom has raved a while 
in Chicago has been to Dolton about 5 times or so.  Fuck that!  I hate that 
place!!  Don't go; send a message to the promoters that new spots are needed 
to hear "our music".  We deserve it!
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At 11:35 23-2-00 -0600, you wrote:

>Nothing is sacred, dammit.  And nothing should be accepted without
>questioning.

Can I get some love inside the venue for this man, please?

Eye-D

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So do you want the music to just make you dance, and just go there to dance, 
like it used to be, or do you want the music to have a bold political 
statement?  Fuck that, the purpose of dance music is to make you dance, and 
that's what I'm there for.  I don't pay attention to genres either, but 
they're there, and just because I like trance and dislike jungle, if there's 
some jungle that's making my legs move, whether it's socialist driven or 
capitalist driven, I'm gonna dance.   

D.A.R.Y.L.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 23:18:22 2000
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...WOW!!!!

thank you guys SO much for the overwhelming response!!!  i never would
have expected anything like it.
we're gonna try to get back to everybody personally, just give us some
time.  in the meantime, i'd like to thank everybody that responded for
their offers and contributions, they're much appreciated.

it'll be a few days before we come to any conclusions about anything so
there's still time to reply (if you're a dj or if you want to join), BUT
PLEASE! should you choose to do so, email detroit_ravesafe@hotmail.com,
NOT this account.  i'm not talented enough to figure out how to put up
mail filters in pine, and with a slew of mailing-list-spam along with all
my personal mail, your email is much more likely to get deleted by
accident at this account (<---dpayer@umich.edu), whereas at the ravesafe
address it'll be sure to be preserved.

thanks, and keep the emails comin =)
-doris


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 23:20:14 2000
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Eye-D wrote:

> >Nothing is sacred, dammit.  And nothing should be accepted without
> >questioning.
> 
> Can I get some love inside the venue for this man, please?
> 



i *heart* atomly!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 23:21:29 2000
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NONE OF THEM!!!! ha ha ha wasn't that a funny one-liner?

Matt

On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 sarah@shell.safari-media.com wrote:

> 
> What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in Chicago?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Sarah Gianetto: Safari Media: Event Coordination
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, doris wrote:
> 
> i *heart* atomly!
> 

me too


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 23 23:26:21 2000
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CAPTAIN ROBBIE KNIEVEL JUMPS OVER A SPEEDING TRAIN HEAD-ON!

FOX AT 7!

BE THERE OR BE SQUARE!

UH, AND SOMETHING ABOUT TRANCE!

CHRIS!

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Anyone thinking about going to this party...  I really wana see Rabit in the Moon
again, they put on a fuckin awesome show at Turned On, like nothing i've seen
before.
I just remember it being really late in the night (their keyboard crashed and
another had ot be shipped in) and several thousand fucked up and sober kids just
staring forward in awe....  I wish everyone could expierence something like that.
Turned On was the best party I've been too.  I wish there were more parties like
that.  I hope "Live on the Decks II" is a good party. I'm starting to get burnt
out on bunk parties full of promises.

> 
> Liquid Groove presents...
> 
> LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE:
> The Festival of Sound
> 
> Saturday April 1st 2000
> Atlanta GA
> North Atlanta Trade Center
> 
> For many years now Liquid Groove have consistently organized top quality
> events on a  regular basis, bringing together some of the finest musical
> minds from all over the world. LIQUIFIED UNIVERSE will be the pinnacle of
> our existence so far. We have spared no expense in putting together a
> production and a line-up to take it to the next level. Welcome to the
> future.
> 
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> 
> - RABBIT IN THE MOON
>   (hallucination, fl)
> 
> 
> - SASHA
>  (twilo, northern exposure, UK)
> 
> 
> - JOHN DIGWEED
>   (twilo, bedrock, UK)
> 
> 
> - GROOVERIDER
>   (metalheadz, UK)
> 
> 
> - FABIO
>   (metalheadz, Uk)
> 
> 
> - JIM MASTERS
>   (ultimate base, UK)
> 
> 
> - GARTH
>   (greyhound, wicked crew, san fran)
> 
> 
> - MONK
>   (hallucination, tampa)
> 
> 
> - J-LUV
>   (rewind, outerlimits, atlanta)
> 
> 
> - BOBBLE
>   (20 hz cartel, rewind, atlanta)
> 
> 
> - CHRISTIAN MICHAEL
>   (protoculture, ATA, atlanta)
> 
> 
> - ULISES
>   (columbia cartel, atlanta)
> 
> 
> SOUND:
> The main arena will be filled with the largest Turbosound system ever
> assembled in the southeast. 168 Cabinets of pure unadulterated Turbosound.
> In addition to this the second room will also feature full Turbosound.
> 
> 
> LASERS:
> PAWN LASERS:
> PAWN will be stopping in Atlanta on there way home from
> the winter music conference with 3 vans full of an arsenal of laser systems.
> Your experience will include multiple laser projections, some never seen
> before in the US. The latest in laser  technology, color, and computer
> controlled artificial intelligent laser systems that our government will
> allow. Based out of Philadelphia ... they travel far and wide supplying 3d
> animated interactive laser shows. This weekend using 4 separate laser
> systems, PAWN will elevate your subconscious state and open the gate of your
> reality to creatively stimulate  your senses. Check them out at
> WWW.PAWNLASERS.COM
> 
> 
> VISUALS:
> O.V.T. of Chicago will be enlightening our minds with a massive display
> of twisted, morphing video projections. As well as a full intelligent
> lighting system designed and installed by ACTIVE LIGHTING, Atlanta.
> 
> 
> DECORATIONS:
> Arranged by Liquid Groove
> 
> 
> LOCATION:
> NORTH ATLANTA TRADE CENTER
> North atlantas premier exhibit facility and one of the largest exposition
> facilities in the southeast, offering 120,000 sq feet of exhibit space, all
> indoors, in climate control comfort and split up into 2 Massive rooms. Well
> lighted,
> FREE parking is steps from the main entrance. The facility offers handicap
> accessibility, Tons and Tons of clean restrooms,  an public telephones. More
> then 5000 hotel rooms are within a 7 mile radius of the North Atlanta Trade
> center. A wide range of accommodations available from budget motels to
> luxury hotels. check out www.liquified.com for hotel information.
> 
> 
> MAIN ROOM:
> 9:00 -10:00 -  Ulises
> 10:00 -12:00 - Monk
> 12:00 -2:00 -  Rabbit in the Moon
> 2:00 -8:00 -  Sasha and John Digweed
> 
> ROOM 2:
> 
> 9:00 - 10:00 - Bobble
> 10:00 - 11:00 - Christian Michael
> 11:00 - 12:00 - J-Luv
> 12:00 - 2:00 - Garth
> 2:00 - 6:00 - Grooverider and Fabio
> 6:00 - 8:00 - Jim Masters
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TICKETS:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Tickets go on sale february 28th
> 
> $25 unitl March 15th
> $30 after
> $15 if you turn in your ticket stub from 5.1 at your nearest ticket outlet.
> 
> BEWARE OF FORGERIES
> Buy tickets ONLY from these stores -
> $1 surcharge at some ticket locations
> 
> Wish L5P  404-880-0402
> Wish  770-814-0940
> Rewind  404-827-9463
> Satellite 404-880-9746
> Spins: (Greensboro, NC) - 336-274-8530
> Faith Records: (Nashville, TN) - 615-726-3700
> Bad Seed: (Birmingham, AL) - 205-933-7333
> Big Apple Music: (Columbia, SC) - 803-798-7790
> World Conspiracy: (Huntsville, AL) - 256-534-3198
> R.P.M.: (Savannah, GA) - 912-234-0093
> Knee Deep: (Charlotte, NC) - 704-335-0442
> Manifest: (greenville, SC) - 864-232-1623
> Smoke: (Gainsville, FL) - 352-379-7670
> Vinyl Frontier: (Orlando, FL) - 407-872-1844
> 
> 
> 
> **NOTE THE WEBSITE WILL BE UP AND RUNNING BY FEBUARY 26TH!
> 
> Or you can purchase tickets online by going to www.liquified.com and
> following the link for online ticket sales.
> 
> Mail order ticket requests must be recieved by 3/15/00. For info call
> 404-257-2515 or log on to www.liquified.com
> 
> If you are interested in organizing a bus trip or if you want to find out if
> a bus trip is being planned in a city near you log onto www.liquified.com
> 
> Anyone interested in Vending you can e-mail us at
> liquidgroove@mindspring.com (vendors must be licensed)
> 
> -18 and over welcome with proper ID
> 
> - Doors open at 9:00 pm - ARRIVE EARLY
> 
> - We will have multiple entry lines with Over 30 security guards to ensure
> quick and safe entry into the event.
> 
> - No bags or Markers: PLEASE RESPECT THIS VENUE
> 
> 
> NORTH ATLANTA TRADE CENTER
> North atlantas premier exhibit facility and one of the largest exposition
> facilities in the southeast, offering 120,000 sq feet of exhibit space, all
> indoors, in climate control comfort and split up into 2 Massive rooms. Well
> lighted,
> FREE parking is steps from the main entrance. The facility offers handicap
> accessibility, Tons and Tons of clean restrooms,  an public telephones. More
> then 5000 hotel rooms are within a 7 mile radius of the North Atlanta Trade
> center. A wide range of accommodations available from budget motels to
> luxury hotels. check out www.liquified.com for hotel information.
> 
> 
> DIRECTIONS:
> 
> FROM THE SOUTH: Take I-75/85 north into downtown atlanta. I-75/85 merge in
> downtown atlanta. Stay towards the left lane. when I-75 and I-85 split take
> I-85 north towards greenville. Go up I-85 and get off at the Indian Trail
> exit (the exit numbers are changing so the exit number will be either 38 or
> 101). At your first light (indian trail) go right. Go to Oakbrook pkwy and
> make a right. Go 1/2 mile to Jeurgens court and make a right. Venue is right
> in front of you.
> 
> 
> FROM THE NORTH EAST: Take I-85 south toward atlanta. Get off at Indian Trail
> exit (exit numbers are changing so the exit number will be either 38 or 101)
> At the first light you come to go left onto indian trail. Cross over hwy and
> go to Oakbrook pkwy and turn right. Go 1/2 mile to jeurgens court and turn
> right. Venue is straight in front of you.
> 
> 
> FROM THE EAST: Take I-20 west towards atlanta. Before you get to atlanta you
> will get onto I-285 north. Take I-285 north till you get to the exit for
> I-85 north. Go I-85 north to Indian Trail exit. (exit numbers are changing
> so the exit number will be either 38 or 101) At your first light (indian
> trail) go right. Go to Oakbrook pkwy and make a right. Go 1/2 mile to
> Jeurgens court and make a right. Venue is right in front of you.
> 
> 
> FROM THE WEST: Take I-20 east into downtown atlanta. Get onto I-75/85 north
> and then follow the directions from the south.
> 
> 
> FROM THE MIDWEST AREA: Get to I-75 south. Go I-75 south towards atlanta.
> Before you get to atlanta Take I-285 east. Take I-285 east to I-85 North. Go
> up I-85 and get off at the Indian Trail exit (the exit numbers are changing
> so the exit number will be either 38 or 101). At your first light (indian
> trail) go right. Go to Oakbrook pkwy and make a right. Go 1/2 mile to
> Jeurgens court and make a right. Venue is right in front of you.
> 
> 
> 24 hour info
> 404-257-2515
> liquidgroove@mindspring.com
> liquified@mindspring.com
> www.liquified.com
> 
> 
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No it sucked dick.

--- mattdemon <demmon@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> NONE OF THEM!!!! ha ha ha wasn't that a funny
> one-liner?
> 
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At 03:29 PM 2/23/00 -0800, you wrote:
>No it sucked dick.

MISHA I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF YOUR ONE-LINERS! TAKE THEM OUT OF THIS PUBLIC
FORUM AND DO THEM ON IRC WHERE THEY BELONG!

FUCKING FUCK!



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quit typing in caps moron

Misha

P.S. Jungle is for crackwhores

--- chris ege <crege@students.wisc.edu> wrote:
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> 
> MISHA I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF YOUR ONE-LINERS! TAKE
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> FUCKING FUCK!
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The queen of az-raves happens to be right here =P

Go here: http://www.egroups.com/group/arizona-raves/info.html

And our website is www.azraves.org


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On 23 Feb 2000, Storm Fuego wrote:

> Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
> Storm Fuego <fuddyduddyjudge@usa.net> wrote:
> So Check it....
> 
> I'm going to Phoenix again for Spring Break (march 17-26) for some parties
> and
> Tempe excitement as well as a little hiking and meditation in Sedona on the
> Red Rox.  I'm wondering if Phoenix has a mailing list much like our own.  Is
> it az-raves@hyperreal.org?  I signed on a while back, but I'm a crackhead so
> I
> forgot.  
> 
> help a traveling brotha out...need the info... :D
> 
> 
> 
> Fuego :)
> 
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could someone please let me know the cost of this event??please???me love 
you long time....


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can some body please send me all the info for live on the deacks three....
i need a main info linre and the rest of that junk. will somebody please 
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This is why this is going to be a beautiful party. Daley *can't* bust the 
party. The non-rave deal applies only to Chicago... not Chicago and all 
surrounding areas. It's not in his realm of control to bust the party... 
break out the glowsticks....

sarah.

<< Damn man its not even in Chicago!!  What is freakin' Daley gonna do, send 
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www.boogietribe.com

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> can some body please send me all the info for live on the deacks three....
> i need a main info linre and the rest of that junk. will somebody please
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I have the first acid test and i thought it blew

that is all

ricA
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All i have to say..is that Ron D. Core is the shit, Yo! If you didn' know
you
betta ask..somebody....


Fuego! :D

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hmmm...well..i don't know what to say really...

right on right on


Fuego..:)




"ricA" <ricasha@netzero.net> wrote:
I have the first acid test and i thought it blew

that is all

ricA
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All i have to say..is that Ron D. Core is the shit, Yo! If you didn' know=

you
betta ask..somebody....


Fuego! :D

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>hmmm...well..i don't know what to say really...

what list?





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At 12:31 PM 2/23/00 -0700, sarah@shell.safari-media.com wrote:
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>What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in Chicago?
>

Hallucingoen,  Quirk,   Synchro,  Process, Tristan, Green Nuns of the
Revolution, Slinky wizard, Psychopod.



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Tad <sluck@frontiernet.net> wrote: 

At 12:31 PM 2/23/00 -0700, sarah@shell.safari-
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>What progressive and/or trance artist would you like 
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dan doormouse, nuff sed

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Year of the Dragon
Saturday, March 4th, 2000
Indianapolis, Indiana



Scarab Records is proud to present one of the greatest shows Indianapolis 
will ever see - Year of the Dragon.  From the ones who brought you Invasion, 
Ghetto Fabulous, Raising Milk Goats The Modern Way, The Aqua Centre, The 
Body Snatchers, Back To The Ghetto, Jungle Bells and Deep Love, comes an 
event like none other.  Scarab Records has worked diligently all year long 
to inspire and entertain you with some of the greatest electronic performers 
in the world.  To make it clear, this show will simply astound you.  We will 
be bringing the best talent, the brightest lights, the biggest sound and the 
most bad ass lasers this city has ever seen.  Fortune Cookie says - Prepare 
for a whole new experience, a whole new vision and a whole new year in 
music.  Prepare for the Year of the Dragon.



HARDFLOOR - Harthouse/Jackpot/No Respect - Live from Germany

Hardfloor IS Techno.  Hardfloor IS Acid House.  Hardfloor IS one of the 
greatest electronic bands on the planet.  Come join us for their first ever 
appearance in Indianapolis and see why they are respected throughout the 
world.  DJ Oliver Bondzio and producer Ramon Zenker formed this legendary 
techno band in Germany in 1991.  Hardfloor, with their signature dance-floor 
anthems, helped to solidify the acid-house trend that was circulating 
through Germany via Sven Vath, Pete Namlook and David Moufang.  It wasn't 
until after the release of the 11-minute, beat-tantalizer "Hardtrance 
Acperience" that the duo became a hot commodity in Germany for production 
and mixing.  Numerous recordings on the Harthouse label (owned by Sven Vath) 
ensued, including Respect (1995) and Home Run (1996).  Their sound soon 
became more advanced and more recognizable when the team incorporated 
trip-hop, electro and breakbeats into their repertoire.  On Saturday, March 
4th, you are going to receive a deep education in electronic music.  
Confucius say, "He who hear Hardfloor listens to the world."


MISSTRESS BARBARA - Energia Productions/Relentless - Montreal

Mix some drummy, funky, pumpin' techno with a jazzy shuffle and some 
repetitive Latin grooves and what do ya got?  Misstress Barbara bangin’ the 
box and doin' it like you've never seen before!  This hot and spicy Szechuan 
Princess is gonna rock it out for you for her first time ever in 
Indianapolis!  In just three years she's headlined shows with some of the 
most talented performers in the world including Carl Cox, Masters at Work, 
Cari Lekebusch, Adam Beyer and Frankie Bones.  Keep your eyes open for her 
first release "Endless Passion EP" on Relentless Records and keep your ears 
protected from the damage she will cause.  Confucius say, "She who rock the 
tables owns the spirit." - I say, "Hell ya!"


REVOLUTION 9 - Scarab Records - Live from Indianapolis

Our revolution has just begun.  It is one of intensity, one of mystery, and 
inevitably one of new visions.  Music will change the world again, but this 
time with an entirely new sound . . . the sound of Revolution 9.  Kevin 
Ahern and Jason Beatty formed this group in 1999 with one objective in mind: 
  to change the music we hear now and what we will hear in the future.  
Putting a strong emphasis on melody fused with unique and irresistible 
four-on-the-floor beats, this dynamic duo has truly made a name for 
themselves.  Expect to hear nothing but greatness coming out of their new 
studio this summer with their first full length CD, “Cities are for People”. 
  Confucius say, “Number 9, number 9, number 9 . . .”


SLATER HOGAN - Muzique Boutique/Genius Insanity - Indianapolis

You will soon find this mans name in the history books of house music.  
Slater Hogan has not only reinvented the house DJ but he has redefined what 
it means to play house music.  Borrowing from all genres and all continents 
Slater can create a mix of beautiful music and flowing rhythms able to pack 
dance floors all over the country, and he does.  Confucius say, “A man with 
gentle hand can mold the land.”


IMPERIAL SOUND SYSTEM - Hook and Pull Team - Louisville

Order ISS to take out or eat in, either way, their Mandarin style jungle and 
Hunan flavored drum and bass will keep you coming back for more.  Ain’t no 
Kung Pao Chickens here, put on your bib and prepare for a double delight of  
Moo Goo Gai Jungle from two of the most seasoned producers in their field.  
Trust us, unlike most Chinese food, after feasting on their set you won’t go 
home hungry.  Confucius say, “Warrior of jungle has no enemy, only harmony.”


ALI OBVIOUS - Bounce Theory - Dayton

Bamboo shoots, waterchestnuts and snow peas in hot garlic sauce ain’t got 
nothin’ on this man.  He is a Poo Poo Platter of original house and Shrimp 
Fried Techno.  Confucius say, “Man who beat house, beat all time.”


VARSHA - SUBterror/PTLF - Indianapolis

Goa Trance is morning bliss.  This SUBterrorist will not only make you crap 
in your Crab Rangoon, but he will also take you for a ride on the scaly 
serpent of surrealism.  Confucius say, “Light of man is birth of day.”


DJ PHASE - Scarab Records - Indianapolis

This Five-Star Mongolian Stir-fried Junglist will beat the Chow Mein outta 
your pretty face and shake the Chop Suey outta your tofu ass.   Confucius 
say, “Man who drum, can see future, man who bass, can control it.”


Chinese Palace opens at 10pm

Tickets to Paradise sold at the door
$20 the night of show - no pre-sale

Sound of thunder, sound of boom by Log
Light like lightening, light like firework by Project 7
Laser in mind, laser in spirit by Log

For more information contact Scarab Records @

Scarab Records
317.767.5103
Scarabsong@aol.com
Scarabrecords@aol.com
www.scarabrecords.com

If you would like to be on our mailing list please e-mail us at the address 
above or call our information line.

Thank You

Kevin
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At 05:37 PM 2/23/00 -0600, partykid@ravernet.org wrote:
>Anyone thinking about going to this party...  I really wana see Rabit in
the Moon
>again, they put on a fuckin awesome show at Turned On, like nothing i've seen
>before.
>I just remember it being really late in the night (their keyboard crashed and
>another had ot be shipped in) and several thousand fucked up and sober
kids just
>staring forward in awe....  I wish everyone could expierence something
like that.
>Turned On was the best party I've been too.  I wish there were more
parties like
>that.  I hope "Live on the Decks II" is a good party. I'm starting to get
burnt
>out on bunk parties full of promises.
>


I'm tentatively planning on going... I'm looking for a ride or people who
are willing to share costs on a rental car... (I'm located in Southern
Ohio).  If I rent a car I'd be willing to pick up people in between here
and atlanta or take anyone along who is willing to drive here.


tad


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i know whats going on and you dont.....hahahahahaha

lets just say something like............

SPIRITUAL KRACK LABORATORY..........HAHAHAHAHA

oh, i just escaped by the way.....fucking banannas...dont trust them!!!





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HEY

anyone going to order more fucktrance shirts???
i am cleaning up "theshop" and reclaiming screens.
 ((for those who dont know....i printed your t's and I made them 
crooked....and reclaiming means taking the "stencile" out to reuse the screen.......kinda like recycling))

so...fucktrance.....trance that no one likes or trance to get "down" to??

theMeanassChef

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partykid@ravernet.org wrote:

> 1. Paul Okenfold
> 2. Sasha and Digweed
> 3. Huggie

Personally I think Paul Van Dyk is a better DJ.  He spins
harder stuff too.. not just pussy trance.  :-)



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I AM SORRY

let me correct my self......

if you need to order a fucktrance t......

email pixie!!!!

sorry for any inconveince!!!

theChef

((i still want to see your midis'))

.......BUT...if you would like one of those cool ass MIDI t's floating around..email me!!!

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On 02/23/2000 6:40 PM Werwierd@aol.com prophesized the following:

> can some body please send me all the info for live on the deacks three....
> i need a main info linre and the rest of that junk. will somebody please
> e-mail me all the information. please...


ever thought about taking yourself to the  mw-raves website and accessing
the mw-raves calendar and looking up the info for yourself...in not there ya
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Hey all,
Just a brief note on the Grammy front (which doesn't really mean
anything, but ya know, at least it's music-related info), the remixer of
the year is Club 69 for his remixes of Cher, Madonna, Whitney Houston,
Everything But the Girl, Funky Green Dogs, and Donna Summer. Last year's
I believe was Frankie Knuckles.

That is all.

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remixer of the year-Brisk from next generation

and

Dom-from moving shadow

the day that shit happens,is the day i quite pushing the music..and 
spinning.....and just start telling stories about how it used to be.

-winn.nujack


>From: Ben Mautner <weasel3@dot-net.net>
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>Hey all,
>Just a brief note on the Grammy front (which doesn't really mean
>anything, but ya know, at least it's music-related info), the remixer of
>the year is Club 69 for his remixes of Cher, Madonna, Whitney Houston,
>Everything But the Girl, Funky Green Dogs, and Donna Summer. Last year's
>I believe was Frankie Knuckles.
>
>That is all.
>
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And Skylab 2000,
Thomas Michael,
Jason Blakemore,
Astral Projection,
Taylor,
Kimball Collins,
Eric Davenport.
Electric Sheep. etc.

On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:02:02 EST Sixtybus@aol.com writes:
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> I like them.  =)
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>Astral Projection,


They will be in Pittsburgh on teh 21st of April.  (and so will I)


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I would drive just about anywhere to see K90!!

: And Skylab 2000,
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> Kimball Collins,

He's gonna be at the Orbit Room in GR this friday with (residents)
Shannon Williams and Prime Minister.

http://www.orbitroom.com/revolution/


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these is a question for everyone.

who would you like to see here in the midwest?

dj/live act



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Best Dance Recording of 1999
Believe -- Cher

deffinitely much better than anything i've heard in at least the past three 
years.   wouldn't you say?

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>Best Dance Recording of 1999
>Believe -- Cher


I'm still all about Britney.  Altho she needs to realize that she can't
dance.  She just needs to come strip for me and get on with it.

*waves a dollar*

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shirley manson needs to come over to my house wearing that schoolgirl
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A L I E N S Q U A D: presents

Sat May 6 . Lexington, KY . TRANSMISSION 01:01 |

First in a new series from the crew that brought you a new perspective on
events with the abduction parties in 99.  Details forthcoming.

This party will feature 5 D.J.'s all headliners.  Each will spin an extended 
set. Headliners spin from the time the doors open till the last record 
plays.  So......MAKE SURE YOU COME EARLY.  THE LINE-UP WILL BE RELEASED MID 
MARCH.  Keep your ears to pavement for the details or just check the 
following sources.

internet: www.aliensquad.com
voice mail: 606.296.7800

PS - And of course in typical Aliensquad style the bottle water and the 
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>shirley manson needs to come over to my house wearing that schoolgirl
>outfit.


OMG she looked so hot.

Too bad Moby looked like a total boob.

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>who would you like to see here in the midwest?
>

BuzzFuzz, Hixxy, Force and Styles (they were excellent when I saw them),
Neophyte, Mark N, Hellfish, Prooducer, Fischkopf (I can dream, right?),
Omar Santana if he plays hardcore, Lenny Dee if he ever comes out of
hiding, Delta-9 as a live PA, Stunned Guys, Ron D Core doing a hard acid
set with records from like 93/94, and I still have yet to see Eye-D.  Maybe
Charley Lownoise & Mental Theo but only if they play "The Ultimate Sex Track".

I'm sure I could think of more but my mind is currently filled with
polynomials instead of music.

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ricky martin is fine!!!


that will be all.


On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Fergus wrote:

> 
> >shirley manson needs to come over to my house wearing that schoolgirl
> >outfit.
> 
> 
> OMG she looked so hot.
> 
> Too bad Moby looked like a total boob.
> 
> fergus
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be prepared  =)

----- Original Message -----
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> >who would you like to see here in the midwest?
> >
>
> BuzzFuzz, Hixxy, Force and Styles (they were excellent when I saw them),
> Neophyte, Mark N, Hellfish, Prooducer, Fischkopf (I can dream, right?),
> Omar Santana if he plays hardcore, Lenny Dee if he ever comes out of
> hiding, Delta-9 as a live PA, Stunned Guys, Ron D Core doing a hard acid
> set with records from like 93/94, and I still have yet to see Eye-D.
Maybe
> Charley Lownoise & Mental Theo but only if they play "The Ultimate Sex
Track".
>
> I'm sure I could think of more but my mind is currently filled with
> polynomials instead of music.
>
> fergus
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At 22:49 23-2-00 -0600, you wrote:

>who would you like to see here in the midwest?

Eye-D and The Schaumburg Hardcoren Force

Somebody stop me!

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>there is one thing I have always, and will continue to avoid. I worry that 
>experiencing sex while rolling would make sex without narcotics paler in 
>comparison. I don't think I want to jeopardize that...

I've heard that argument b4... its bullshit... sex is sex is sex is fun..
sure sex on e is more fun... but it isnt going to ruin normal sex.  Most
people find it to difficult to have actual sex while rolling anyways...  

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>who would you like to see here in the midwest?

*disclaimer* i would prefer these folks make to lexington/louisville/cinci 
since those are closest but...

muppetfucker (4.07 in columbus) but somewhere closer to lexington would rock

mc rumble - see above

coy west

angel alanis

genaside II

brisk

ahman

gobot/twist-1

Dionysos

mad wax

tray stylz




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At 00:06 24-2-00 -0600, you wrote:

>Mark N,
>Hellfish,
>Prooducer,

Gotta back you up on those boys. I just picked up Deathchant by Hellfish. 
Ack, ack!

>Maybe Charley Lownoise & Mental Theo but only if they play "The Ultimate 
>Sex Track".

That can be arranged. Those boys do anything for money.

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>shirley manson needs to come over to my house wearing that schoolgirl
>outfit.

feel free to stop by my place with her ;-)

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well not really, but check it out anyway.

http://not-so-massive.com/dlux.ram

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In a message dated 2/23/00 10:58:43 PM Central Standard Time, 
pixie@bluegrass.net writes:

<< shirley manson needs to come over to my house wearing that schoolgirl
 outfit. >>


OMG!!!!
If I could have anyone in the world, I'd be all about Shirley Manson!!  
<drool>

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:OMG she looked so hot.
:
:Too bad Moby looked like a total boob.


hey...i think moby is sexy. ;]

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At 00:39 24-2-00 -0500, you wrote:

>Dave Clark  Cari Lekebusch  Marco Corola  Sven Vath  Dave Angel  Surgeon 
>Claude Young Darren Price  Steve Stoll  Robert Hood   Fumiya Tanaka  Ben 
>Simms Oliver  Ho Luke Slater Bryan Zentz  Umek  Joel Mull  Oliver 
>Lieb  Advent  Misstress Barbra  Adam Beyer Vapourspace Shufflemaster 
>Laurent  Garnier  Marco Bailey Chris Liebing Ben Long John Selway 
>Gaetek  Joey Beltram

Yeah... But where is the techno?

Eye-D

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That party was one of the best nights of my life..  Duno if that sad or
not.. <grin>  Anyway, please please please if at all possible bring Kode
IV back to Madison or surroudning area.  I love Goa trance!!

> 
> i'm glad that you enjoyed turned on.
> we will be doing another event of the same caliber in conjunction with mile high
> on may 20th...rabbit in the moon won't be playing...but we are working on an
> equally impressive lineup.
> thx for your support.
> brad synergy
> solidstate milwaukee
> 
> Tad wrote:
> 
> > At 05:37 PM 2/23/00 -0600, partykid@ravernet.org wrote:
> > >Anyone thinking about going to this party...  I really wana see Rabit in
> > the Moon
> > >again, they put on a fuckin awesome show at Turned On, like nothing i've seen
> > >before.
> > >I just remember it being really late in the night (their keyboard crashed and
> > >another had ot be shipped in) and several thousand fucked up and sober
> > kids just
> > >staring forward in awe....  I wish everyone could expierence something
> > like that.
> > >Turned On was the best party I've been too.  I wish there were more
> > parties like
> > >that.  I hope "Live on the Decks II" is a good party. I'm starting to get
> > burnt
> > >out on bunk parties full of promises.
> > >
> >
> > I'm tentatively planning on going... I'm looking for a ride or people who
> > are willing to share costs on a rental car... (I'm located in Southern
> > Ohio).  If I rent a car I'd be willing to pick up people in between here
> > and atlanta or take anyone along who is willing to drive here.
> >
> > tad
> >
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> --
> solidstate usa
> milwaukee, wisconsin
> 414.256.1396
> 
> fine house music and beyond
> 
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i would like to now express my disgust for Azure 1201 not being up for a 
grammy.





what the fuck kinda world is this!?!?!?

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>From: doris <dpayer@umich.edu>
te: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:09:43 -0500 (EST)
>
>ricky martin is fine!!!
>
>
>that will be all.

*haha* I knew I liked doris for a reason....

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> http://not-so-massive.com/dlux.ram
> Then e-mail dlux@not-so-massive.com to book me after you get done
> listening.

whats up with all the trainwrecks? I mean that's cool and all that your
putting your mix out there, but that part where you stop everything and get
on the mic and apologize is probably a little overboard, eh? Although I
gotta give you props for dropping "Rave On" by DJ Paul Elstak... Thats a
pretty fitting tune to throw into a DNB set.

Oh, before I forget, scratching with Beavis and Butthead samples is also
officially "out" =P

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People I want to see that haven't been here recently...

Jumpin' Jack Frost
Dillinja 
DJ SS
Krust
Andy C (never hurts to bring him again)
Souljah (aka Prizna, congo natty operator)
Mark N
Altern-8 Live PA 
Ratpack
Hoverproject
Foo Fighters
Ricky Martin
DJ Paul "Fuck You Maniac" Elstak tag team with Mark N

Brandon
 

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>But everyone must band
>together and place a collective ban on Dolton!  Yes, that's right, we 
>should
>all boycott Dolton Expo for life!  I decided this about 9 months ago and
>it's doing wonders for my psyche.  Face it, everyone whom has raved a while
>in Chicago has been to Dolton about 5 times or so.  Fuck that!  I hate that
>place!!  Don't go; send a message to the promoters that new spots are 
>needed
>to hear "our music".  We deserve it!


guess what?









you don't deserve shit.


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In a message dated 2/23/0 5:09:57 AM, pixie wrote:

<<so why haven't you just been using that then, instead of supporting da og

white man billy gates??


*grin* sorry, had to ask


playa hatin'

pixie>>

um, i think u mean steve case...he runs aol, case is jewish
i believe...bill gates runs microsoft, but i think he just
recently stepped down...early retirement, the truth is
he'll still be the richest man in the world, just from his
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In a message dated 2/23/0 5:43:31 AM, jerry wrote:

<<Stevie, let's say Yahoo DOES get bought out.  Yang surely 
won't be sick like you.  Trust me, he'd LOVE the American 
way and already does.
Jerry>>

what's sick is pseudo-intellectuals that can not
understand, *NOBODY* likes getting their own
company getting bought out from under them, it's
called a 'hostile takeover', and has to do with how
much stock one holds in the company

so, trust me, if jerry had his company bought out
from under him - a company he started from scratch
while attending stanford, he would *definitly not*
love the american way...but that's the way the system
works, the one with the most money always wins,
regardless of what is truly partial or morally correct.

many, many inventors have lost control of their creations 
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>>who would you like to see here in the midwest?
>
>*disclaimer* i would prefer these folks make to lexington/louisville/cinci
>since those are closest but...

>mad wax
>

he might be playin KC soon......

peter cottontail fuckin rocked
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 >i would like to now express my disgust for
  Azure 1201 not being up for a grammy. \

i second that....that is such bullshit......and ricky martin is GAY anyway!



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In a message dated 2/24/2000 2:31:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< many, many inventors have lost control of their creations 
 this way. >>

maybe then they shouldn't get money or expansion hungry and take their 
company public. No company is forced to make itself a public company, and 
normally only do so when 1) they want more money (greed) or 2) want to expand 
their company and need the money from the initial stock purchases to do so.

Basically, if you're sooooooooooo paranoid of a hostile take-over..don't go 
public

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In a message dated 2/24/00 7:45:29 AM !!!First Boot!!!, 
ionicsix@mail.UNTRANSLATABLE.COM writes:

> .and ricky martin is GAY anyway!

Good!

Finally someone cute to representthe gay community.

-Chocolate
How dull it 
must be to be 
straight in a 
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In a message dated 2/24/2000 2:45:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
ionicsix@mail.UNTRANSLATABLE.COM writes:

<< >i would like to now express my disgust for
   Azure 1201 not being up for a grammy. \ >>

Azure 1201 loses to Cher????? Come on now!!!! Where is the Justice in this 
world??? Maybe if Brittney danced in the video, then it might have won.

jammin to Christina
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Feel free to stop by my place to see her.  ;-)

Tom

chad clary wrote:

> >shirley manson needs to come over to my house wearing that schoolgirl
> >outfit.
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d&b: seba, blame, blu mar ten, future engineers

uk garage: dj luck & mc neat, ez, ramsey & fen, mike ruffcut lloyd,
norris da boss windross, spoony, mc's psg and ranking  <<are there any
promoters who want to bring some new music over here?? :) >>

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In a message dated 2/23/0 3:18:34 PM, greg wrote:

<<I guess you don't know what a hare-lip is.  It's when there 
is a split in the upper lip, resembling a cat or a hare (rabbit).  
Known to be a common deformality among asians...now that's 
not racism>>

a common deformality among asians?...sometimes i wonder if
you even believe your own bullshit!

<<I've met very few asians that weren't matter-of-fact and to 
the point.  Especially japanese business men, they are far from 
being soft-balled teddy bears.>>

matter of fact & to the point is a world of difference from
being hard balled...in additition, japanese business men are
cunning soft spoken and creative masters of marketing, 
*not* hard-balled...you were better off using sumo wrestlers
as an example, but even that analogy falls short, since once
they've achieved their goal of shoving their opponent out of
the ring they stop...respect is shown before & after the match
and the code of honor always takes precedence above all...a 
far cry from ruthless cut throat hard balled american business
men who wouldn't give a second thought about buying out that
competitor at the first available chance and continual mud
slinging even after the elections are over...

<<good argument, you've convinced the socks off me.  I take it all 
back, it's not your attitude, it's your fucking stupidity.  Teamed 
with your cunning ability to relate meaningless and trivial thoughts 
into absolutely no point whatsoever>>

i'm sorry my attempt to explain things in layman's terms
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aka  sex on 'e', or while "rollin'"...

enquiring minds want to know... what IS it like?

I got some pure shit in Toronto recently, so I wanna be ready.

I would think a person might get pretty distracted on a pill, tho, so maybe 
recreating a rave in one's love-den wouldn't be such a hot idea... (e.g. 
putting on some good tunes might lead to more dancing than sex). Help a 
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In a message dated 24/02/00 5:27:06 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
agentofchaos@hotmail.com writes:

<< aka  sex on 'e', or while "rollin'"...
 
 enquiring minds want to know... what IS it like?
 
 I got some pure shit in Toronto recently, so I wanna be ready. >>


try sex on the beach
quite a sweet drink
and the man can still get hard


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all things techno

umek, mhonolink, cari lekebush, christian smith, adam beyer, oliver ho,
joel mull, thomas krome, etc....

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> > .and ricky martin is GAY anyway!
> 
> Good!
> 
> Finally someone cute to representthe gay community.


dammit NO!!
that is SO unfair!!
now who's gonna represent the 'doris's hot latin lover' community?!?


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Well, take it from someone that has been there. DON'T!  Sex with that person
will pale in comparison afterwards!
I had the opportunity and took it.  I stopped "movin'" and looked at my
watch.  I realized We had been goin'
for way to long (it was 2pm - we crawled into bed at 3:30am).  Mind you I
was on 3 caps of pure.  Anyways, she
complained for a week that the sex was the best she's had, but she was
incredibly sore.  After the fact - the
sex with her never quite measured up to that night.....

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aka  sex on 'e', or while "rollin'"...

enquiring minds want to know... what IS it like?

I got some pure shit in Toronto recently, so I wanna be ready.

I would think a person might get pretty distracted on a pill, tho, so maybe
recreating a rave in one's love-den wouldn't be such a hot idea... (e.g.
putting on some good tunes might lead to more dancing than sex). Help a
midwest mug out here, Jace
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 14:05:04 2000
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I was hoping someone in the Chicagoland area could help me out....

I need to get two tickets for the Cure in Chicago tomorrow! Tickets
aren't available by phone, they are only on sale at the Vic and at Tower
Records. If anyone could pick up a couple and hold them for me until
tomorrow, I would be very very grateful and would shower you with love
and praise.

someone please email back if you can do this for me. i'll pay you back
for the tickets as soon as i got up to Chicago, no doubt.

thanks!

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live acts: 

adult
aphex twin (ha,ha)
autechre
roy ayers/RAMP
bolzbolz
kit clayton
cube & sphere
dakar & grinser
drexciya (heh.)
g.d. luxxe
human league (no, really.)
innerzone orchestra
kraftwerk
le car
tim von leijden / lik-a-tim
monolake
perspects
plastikman 
porter ricks
sync
amon tobin
uplink

some dj's:

*matthew* hawtin
hyperactive
murat
hoschi
hell
jeff mills
thomas brinkman
rob hood
fumiya tanaka
kym serrano
marco zaffarano
surgeon 
rolando

that's all for now


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*uncontrollable sobbing*
yeah well, that would be nice if they didnt sell out already.
:(
i had some friends who went to get them and while they were waiting in line, 
the tickets sold out. sucks to be us.
*sill sobbing*
-val


>I was hoping someone in the Chicagoland area could help me out....
>
>I need to get two tickets for the Cure in Chicago tomorrow! Tickets
>aren't available by phone, they are only on sale at the Vic and at Tower
>Records. If anyone could pick up a couple and hold them for me until
>tomorrow, I would be very very grateful and would shower you with love
>and praise.
>
>someone please email back if you can do this for me. i'll pay you back
>for the tickets as soon as i got up to Chicago, no doubt.
>
>thanks!
>
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In a message dated 02/23/1970, 11:16:35 PM, eye-d@gmx.net writes:
<<>Maybe Charley Lownoise & Mental Theo but only if they play "The Ultimate 
>Sex Track".

That can be arranged. Those boys do anything for money.
>>


Shit...are they still around?

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Anyone worried about getting tickets for this event?  I'm from Madison and
can't get down to Chciago until 7:30 or 8 and am thinking that I might not
get in to get tickets.  I don't want to make another trip down to Chicago
ot stand in line and not get in a party.  Anyone wana picket up a couple
of tickets and hangout for a wlie before the party.. <Grin>  I'm always up
for making some new friends, espiecialy in CHicagoland, cause I aint got
none down there..  

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>ever thought about taking yourself to the  mw-raves website and accessing
>the mw-raves calendar and looking up the info for yourself...in not there 
>ya
>go

well, buddy. i did think of that yesterday. but, it's not on the dang 
calendar. so, be nice, dang it!
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yeah but where's the hardcore?

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>
>What progressive and/or trance artist would you like to see in Chicago?

matt positive!

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CWA - "only straight girls wear dresses" - available on the second comp on 
KRS, "stars kill rock".

At 03:08 PM 2/23/00 -0600, you wrote:
>ok. i know this isnt exactly the right forum for this, but i really need 
>to know cause its drivin me fuckin crazy and this is presently the only 
>forum i have. so just reply privately and such.
>ok.
>theres a song..on a kill rock stars comp..but im not sure which comp it is 
>..one of the 3 starskillrock/killrockstars/rockstarskill comps...its 
>called (i think) 'only straight girls wear dresses'....if it isnt called 
>that, then all i know is that that's the chorus. if ya know the song..or 
>who does it..or even which krs comp it's on. lemme know. thank you. ;)
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gay

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>
>who would you like to see here in the midwest?

***BANG!  live PA***

also:  force & styles
         invisible skratch picklz
         carl cox
         slipmatt



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attention everybooby:
chad sponholz has announced today that he will be joing the ranks of the 
Mystical Trance Artists.
"the music is so deep. i feel like i have to devote myself to studying the 
comlexities of this trancendant music. so, hence, i have quit djing techno. 
my relatonship with techno was puppylove. this is the 'real thing'."

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attention everybooby:
chad sponholz has announced today that he will be joing the ranks of the 
Mystical Trance Artists.
"the music is so deep. i feel like i have to devote myself to studying the 
comlexities of this trancendant music. so, hence, i have quit djing techno. 
my relatonship with techno was puppylove. this is the 'real thing'."

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, doris wrote:
> ricky martin is fine!!!
> 
> 
> that will be all.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 15:48:30 2000
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i forgot charley lownoise & mental theo (luckily others out there did not!)

also, how's about bringing over BLUMCHEN?!?!?!  i think tommy hilfiger 
sponsored her last european tour...


At 10:29 AM 2/24/00 -0600, you wrote:


>>who would you like to see here in the midwest?
>
>***BANG!  live PA***
>
>also:  force & styles
>         invisible skratch picklz
>         carl cox
>         slipmatt
>
>
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
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>kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
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> >who would you like to see here in the midwest?
> 
> ***BANG!  live PA***


hehe, maybe they'll actually try to be *live* next time they play here
instead of only looking badass behind their keyboards and having a
strung-out looking chick do a really bad job lip synching =P

(disclaimer: i do enjoy their tracks so don't think i'm ripping on the
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oh yeah, and michael's mom...



michael knight <michael@happy.hardcorps.org> wrote: 
> 
> i forgot charley lownoise & mental theo (luckily others out there did not!)
> 
> also, how's about bringing over BLUMCHEN?!?!?!  i think tommy hilfiger 
> sponsored her last european tour...
> 
> 
> At 10:29 AM 2/24/00 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >>who would you like to see here in the midwest?
> >
> >***BANG!  live PA***
> >
> >also:  force & styles
> >         invisible skratch picklz
> >         carl cox
> >         slipmatt
> >
> >
> >
> >_____________________________________________________________________
> >michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
> >kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
> >24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
> >michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
> >
> >
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> kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
> 24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
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> On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, doris wrote:
> > ricky martin is fine!!!
> > 
> > 
> > that will be all.
> 
> * stares at doris, dumbfounded. *


what!!

did you *see* him shake that bon bon?!?!?!?

*faint*


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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 SunoftheWu@aol.com wrote:
> So do you want the music to just make you dance, and just go there to dance, 
> like it used to be, or do you want the music to have a bold political 
> statement?  Fuck that, the purpose of dance music is to make you dance, and 
> that's what I'm there for.  I don't pay attention to genres either, but 
> they're there, and just because I like trance and dislike jungle, if there's 
> some jungle that's making my legs move, whether it's socialist driven or 
> capitalist driven, I'm gonna dance.   

But I know people who use this same line of reasoning to justify listening
to Skrewdriver, a very very hardcore punk band that is also very very
Nazi.  Whenever I question them about it, they say, "Yea, it sucks that
they're so racist, but they're just so good."

That, to me, is complete bullshit.  By buying one of their records, you're
giving money to a fucking neo-Nazi, and that's just something I could
never do.

I know that this is an extreme example, but I'm just making a point.

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silly doris, BANG! has never played here before.  you are thinking of sy & 
demo.

At 10:50 AM 2/24/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > >who would you like to see here in the midwest?
> >
> > ***BANG!  live PA***
>
>
>hehe, maybe they'll actually try to be *live* next time they play here
>instead of only looking badass behind their keyboards and having a
>strung-out looking chick do a really bad job lip synching =P
>
>(disclaimer: i do enjoy their tracks so don't think i'm ripping on the
>two... i just thought their last live pa was a joke)


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well shit.  color me happy hardcore inept.  looks like i'm losing my
touch.


On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, michael knight wrote:

> silly doris, BANG! has never played here before.  you are thinking of sy & 
> demo.
> 
> At 10:50 AM 2/24/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >who would you like to see here in the midwest?
> > >
> > > ***BANG!  live PA***
> >
> >
> >hehe, maybe they'll actually try to be *live* next time they play here
> >instead of only looking badass behind their keyboards and having a
> >strung-out looking chick do a really bad job lip synching =P
> >
> >(disclaimer: i do enjoy their tracks so don't think i'm ripping on the
> >two... i just thought their last live pa was a joke)
> 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> michael knight - happy hardcore dj/producer - promoter/event organizer
> kickinbeats - american cheese productions - columbus, ohio, usa
> 24-hour information: 614.447.6568 - www.kickinbeats.com
> michael@happy.hardcorps.org - michael@kickinbeats.com - ICQ #27890270
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ian pooley is a fat black german.

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, doris wrote:
> what!!
> 
> did you *see* him shake that bon bon?!?!?!?
> 
> *faint*

I witnessed no bon bon shaking.

I have seen Chris Ege work his tootsie roll, though.

Er.  Um.

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hey man i found out some info for ya

hit me back

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hey man i found out some info for ya

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steviet wrote:

> a common deformality among asians?...sometimes i wonder if
> you even believe your own bullshit!

we all wonder the same about you, you pathetic self-absorbed loser

> matter of fact & to the point is a world of difference from
> being hard balled...in additition, japanese business men are
> cunning soft spoken and creative masters of marketing,
> *not* hard-balled...you were better off using sumo wrestlers
> as an example, but even that analogy falls short, since once
> they've achieved their goal of shoving their opponent out of
> the ring they stop...respect is shown before & after the match
> and the code of honor always takes precedence above all...a
> far cry from ruthless cut throat hard balled american business
> men who wouldn't give a second thought about buying out that
> competitor at the first available chance and continual mud
> slinging even after the elections are over...

okay, we've sunk to arguing semantics.  A hard-balled person to me means
a tough negotiator, precise and firm, often getting what they're after
because they fight for it.  Hard-balled does not mean a rude yelling
swaggart of a person, and it is not to be confused with the term
"ruthless" which means a person who will use any means necessary to get
what they're after, regardless of how vicious that makes them.

It's still quite obvious to even first-year psychology students that you
have an extreme problem...you refuse to look at your own problems in
terms of solutions, but only in causes, which you can only see to be
from external sources.  The fact remains that most of the problems are
caused or at least fed by yourself, and your inability to change your
attitude or even persue solutions feed them even more.  Momma musta
raised you all sorts of wrong.

> i'm sorry my attempt to explain things in layman's terms
> have failed to register in that li'l noggin of yours.

layman's terms?  try crackman terms.  Nothing you said had anything to
do with what I said.  Is that layman enough for you?  you chunky pile of
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it's okay, it feels really good but you're always a bit distracted.  It's
almost impossible to orgasm, especially if you're rolling hard.  Best not to do
it until you're comin down...even then it's only good for laughs.

J AC wrote:

> aka  sex on 'e', or while "rollin'"...
>
> enquiring minds want to know... what IS it like?
>
> I got some pure shit in Toronto recently, so I wanna be ready.
>
> I would think a person might get pretty distracted on a pill, tho, so maybe
> recreating a rave in one's love-den wouldn't be such a hot idea... (e.g.
> putting on some good tunes might lead to more dancing than sex). Help a
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jack dangers (mbm)
oliver lieb
bill laswell
amon tobin
ninja tune posse
kenny ken
souljah
dj ss
praxis

mike @ full spectrum wrote:

> who would you like to see here in the midwest?


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>I witnessed no bon bon shaking.
>
>I have seen Chris Ege work his tootsie roll, though.

hey!  i thought that was our little secret!

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> 
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 partykid@ravernet.org wrote:
> > How can you know shit about htis other guy.  You just did come off as
> > arrogent egocentric asshole.  Sorry.  And learn to write, dont' appolagize
> > for your opinions.  And if you're so open minded why are you so quick to
> > judge and classify people? 
> 
> I talk to Misha pretty much daily, I'd say we know each other was well as
> is possible over the Internet.  Also, I believe I know how to write, but
> thanks for the tip, sport.  (Yes, that was meant to be as condescending as
> you were)

Alright, I apolagize...  I just joined this list yeterday, and your post
wasa one of the first I read...  I kind of pissed me off..  <grin>  But
you made some good points this time...  And i was a little condescending.
Sorry.
 
> I am not quick to judge and classify people.  I don't know where I was
> quick to judge or classify anybody, and if I was, I am sorry (oops, there
> I go again, apologizing).
> 
> > My impression here is that you're so wrapped up in being unique and the
> > idealogy behind music that you've lost the entire point of music - to make
> > on feel good and have fun.
> 
> I must say I don't believe that this is the point of music.  This is the
> point of modern, commercial, pop music.  I'm sure Christina Aguilera makes
> many people feel good and I see lots of people having fun at frat parties
> dancing to her songs, but she is in no way a musician, as far as I am
> concerned. 

In my mind the point of music is to invoke emmotion - electronic music
does that.  I don't listen to pop music or radio much because in my mind
it all kind of blurs together.  I have a bunch of friends who are into
punk and I cna't stand it - I have trouble telling what band is what
because it kind of blurs together in my mind.. (not trashing punk,
there's some good punk out there and there are other reasons behind me not
liking aot of punk - so maybe I don't pay attention enuff to tell the
differenece).  Techno, Trance, House - it's still very new to me.  But
maybe that's becuase I've only been exposed ot it for a couple of years.
I remember the first time I heard jungle, how strange it was.  

> > I haven't seen a hint of a suggestion of acomplishing this sacred goal
> > of yours to create new inovative music. You're not throwing out
> > suggestions on how to make things better in the scene today.  YOu're
> > just bitching.  And if it's one thing I've learned in life it's
> > surround yourself with unique, motivated individuals, and not people
> > who are constatnly complaining, unhappy and think they're of a better
> > class than everyone else.  If you stop and look around you'll realise
> > that crack whore on teh street, or that raver dancing, or that soccer
> > mom driving her kids to school are alot more like you.  We're all
> > human.  Accept people for indivduals, not memebers of a group.
> 
> I'm sorry, but to use your own point against you, how do you even know me?
> I do surround myself with unique motivated individuals.  I would say I
> have some of the most interesting friends in the world (anybody who has
> met my roommates can't disagree with this one).  And I would like to think
> that I am doing something towards making this world a better place.  As I
> said in my first reply to Misha, I don't think that the "scene" is worth
> saving- the rave scene is nothing more than excuse to party and get
> loaded.  Sure those are valid things if all you want to do is achieve the
> esapism I mentioned before.  But raving as a vehicle for social change is
> nothing more than a joke, if you ask me.  

I tried not to say you don't surround yourself with unique people,  but my
impression was you where sick of the rave seen because it was full of
people who have no perosnality..  I disagree with that.  I've met some of
the most unique, intelegent people at parties thatn I have anywhere else.
yah there are alot of peole with personality, yah there are some asshole
but that's life.  You can't help that.  and I'm not sure raving was ever
about social change.  I know here in Madison you dont' hear people
preaching about PLUR, or any of that shit.  Everyone is there to have a
goodtime.  It's more about having a huge family than anything else.  And
that's why I love it so - it's a vehicle to escape for a world where you
always have to be ongard.  I know there are going to be hundreds or people
that have simular ideas and morals as me.  I can go to a party and talk
about my boyfriend to people and not worry about getting my assed kicked
because I'm gay.  
.   
> And if people want to be treated as individuals instead of members of a
> group, then they should act like it.  But if you think that dressing like
> everybody else, acting like everybody else and doing what everybody else
> is in any way individual then you're just plain wrong.  This isn't to say
> that I won't give them a chance- I give everybody a chance.  I have a very
> diverse group of friends, many of whom I disagree with on many things (I'd
> say the vast majority of my friends would rather stab their own eyes out
> than listen to three of my songs in succession, for example. :P)

I don't think most people go to parties or listen to the music because
there friends are.  My impresion of raves and ravers before I started
going was their all drug addicts.  I wasn't very much for it, and the only
reason I went to my first party was because an old friend from high school
was going and I was trying to score some acid.  But when I walked in the
door I was blown away - by the visuals, the enviroment, the music..  And
what really did me in was when a girl came up to me, gave me a sucker and
sat down next to me.  We must have talked for 15 minutes or so.  This was
a change from the normal cold attitude I was used to.  So that is why I go
to parties and I think most people do - to escape and be in an
unbelievable enviroment.  Not to change the world.  And I don't think that
qualifies it to be forgotten.  Art doesn't have to make a political
statement.  Most art doesn't.  To me a party is a form of art - cause it
sure as hell invoke emmotion in me.
 
> If all you're interested in is music that makes you happy and makes you
> dance, you could just as well be doing the Charleston or going to a sock
> hop, but I presume you're not, most likely because you recognize that
> those are outdated.  This is the same way I feel about the majority of
> modern music.  Sure innovation isn't the only important quality in music,
> but it is one that must not be forgotten. 

I don't go to sock hops becuase they pail slightly to a rave in scope.
Raves push everything - the visual, the music, the feeling..  A rave is a
different world than outside.
 
> I would say most music is as much art as the print hanging over my mom's
> couch is.  It expresses no real emotion and it was in no way innovative,
> but it certainly goes well with her flowers and the colors of her living
> room.

It invokes emmotion.  Not everyone is an art expert, and not everyone is a
music expert.  As long as someone appreciates it then it's art to a
degree.  I personaly like a little more diversity than pop or Terry
Redlin.  That's my choice.
 
> This doesn't mean that I don't think my mom should've bought this print,
> certainly some avant garde piece wouldn't fill the position properly, but
> I don't think she should try to pawn it off as art.
> 
> I guess this means that trance is the Terry Redlin of electronic music. :)
> Hell, I was thumbing through Muzak at Let It Be yesterday, and there was a
> quote from Digweed himself saying that trance had gone as far as it could
> go and would just be repeating itself from here on out.

Well I've only been listening to the stuff for a year or two now.  But you
never know what could be a take off of trance.  Or Jungle.  Or anything.
Right now I'm happy with the music.  But I understand what you're saying
because I hit the same point with guitar driven music.

> > Why?  Do you have anything constructive to say at all or you looking ofr
> > attention?
> 
> Please re-read my first reply to Misha- as I said nothing must be accepted
> without question.  I recognize, for example, that Richie produced some
> amazing tracks as Plastikman, but to raise him to a deity level is a
> dangerous thing if you're interested in the music. 

Agreed...Sorry to go off on you...  You're making more sense now.  

-Shane
 
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I agree..it's cool..it feels good but you should DEEEFINATELY until you c=
ome
down. We made the mistake of getting a hold of a really really smacky  pi=
ll
and we were basically nodding off on top of each other. It sucked.....but=
=2E.it
felt good...and orgasm took a really loooong time...I don't know if I wou=
ld
ever roll and coitus again...shit..i'd rather dance :)


Fuego :)








gregori <gsparker@parkerresearch.com> wrote:
it's okay, it feels really good but you're always a bit distracted.  It's=

almost impossible to orgasm, especially if you're rolling hard.  Best not=
 to
do
it until you're comin down...even then it's only good for laughs.

J AC wrote:

> aka  sex on 'e', or while "rollin'"...
>
> enquiring minds want to know... what IS it like?
>
> I got some pure shit in Toronto recently, so I wanna be ready.
>
> I would think a person might get pretty distracted on a pill, tho, so m=
aybe
> recreating a rave in one's love-den wouldn't be such a hot idea... (e.g=
=2E
> putting on some good tunes might lead to more dancing than sex). Help a=

> midwest mug out here, Jace
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 17:31:32 2000
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Ok, you ARE a moron.  It's pretty convenient to take my hypothetical
situation and spin it the way you want to.  Why don't you respond to the
first part of my response?  READ IT.  You left that out for some
reason.  Yahoo is not in a position where they can even be bought out by
Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.  Yahoo is the one buying others out.  I don't
know why I've defended you, you're pretty stupid.
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 2/23/0 5:43:31 AM, jerry wrote:
> 
> <<Stevie, let's say Yahoo DOES get bought out.  Yang surely 
> won't be sick like you.  Trust me, he'd LOVE the American 
> way and already does.
> Jerry>>
> 
> what's sick is pseudo-intellectuals that can not
> understand, *NOBODY* likes getting their own
> company getting bought out from under them, it's
> called a 'hostile takeover', and has to do with how
> much stock one holds in the company
> 
> so, trust me, if jerry had his company bought out
> from under him - a company he started from scratch
> while attending stanford, he would *definitly not*
> love the american way...but that's the way the system
> works, the one with the most money always wins,
> regardless of what is truly partial or morally correct.
> 
> many, many inventors have lost control of their creations 
> this way.
> 
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O.k.  you know me, respect all the way.  Which is why I"m not going to go=
 off,
but could someone tell Mr. John Bianchi how to unsubsribe.  He keeps send=
ing
me messages contain nothing in the body but "unsubcribe"  I think he's tr=
ying
to tell me something, but I don't think he understands how to express his=
 t
hought fully and thoroughly to ask for help.  I've got enough mail from h=
im,
so I'm not helping him.  Besides I gotta go to work soon.. :)

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same here, poor helpless guy.  I tried telling him how, but I think I scared him
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: In a message dated 2/23/0 5:09:57 AM, pixie wrote:
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: <<so why haven't you just been using that then, instead of supporting da
og
:
: white man billy gates??>>
:
: um, i think u mean steve case...he runs aol, case is jewish
: i believe...bill gates runs microsoft

which in turn owns hotmail, which was the subject of your e-mail

pfft...lol...sheesh steve, pay attention

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>same here, poor helpless guy.  I tried telling him how, but I think I
scared him
>off.


i believe he does this to everyone..........chris ahs gotten them and i have
gotten quite a few and i've only been resubbed for a day now.

i say help him make his dreams come true.........Chad?

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but wouldn't it just be easier for him if we all just stopped sending
messages to the list?

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>same here, poor helpless guy.  I tried telling him how, but I think I
scared him
>off.


i believe he does this to everyone..........chris ahs gotten them and i have
gotten quite a few and i've only been resubbed for a day now.

i say help him make his dreams come true.........Chad?

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:
> >I have seen Chris Ege work his tootsie roll, though.
> hey!  i thought that was our little secret!

It was little, but I didn't know it was a secret!  :)

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I just thought i'd share with you all the fun you can have when you talk to
a sunday school teacher and you find out she has sex with someone she met on
the internet.

well....i was on IRC last night when i got a random ICQ message from
"Gracie". so
before i said anything back i checked out her profile.

Info/About:
Im a sunday school teacher at grace community church would like to talk to
talk to men between 20-29 but will talk to anyone.
Personal Interests:
Culture & Literature: Religion
Fitness: Aerobics
Religion: Spirituality
Organization, Affiliation, Group:
Spiritual/Religious Org.: Grace Community Church

That's about all the info i had on her. i asked her for a photo right
away......i wanted to see if it was worth trying to seduce a sunday school
teacher into some cybersex. well....she came back with a fat nasty pic and i
was repulsed.....so i decided to fuck with her a little.

enjoy
ricA

--------------------------------------
     ICQ History Log For:
            64666###  gracie
Started on Wed Feb 23 23:28:20 2000
--------------------------------------
ricA       2/23/00  9:57 PM  ok

ricA       2/23/00  10:06 PM sorry.....my computer crashed

gracie     2/23/00  10:06 PM thats ok did you get my pic

ricA       2/23/00  10:07 PM no i didn't
                                  did you get mine?

gracie     2/23/00  10:07 PM no

gracie     2/23/00  10:11 PM nice pic

ricA       2/23/00  10:12 PM so do you like to have sex?

gracie     2/23/00  10:13 PM well i only did it once and it was with that
                                  guy

ricA       2/23/00  10:13 PM you've only had sex once?

gracie     2/23/00  10:14 PM yep

ricA       2/23/00  10:14 PM sex is great....you should have sex more

gracie     2/23/00  10:15 PM ok
                                  it is not that easy for me to just do

ricA       2/23/00  10:15 PM why not?

                                  you should just go out and find a guy (or
two)
                                  and fuck their brains out!!

                                  it's great


gracie     2/23/00  10:16 PM well i tend to take sex more seriously because
                                  i dont want my reputation compromised

ricA       2/23/00  10:17 PM and what reputation is that?

gracie     2/23/00  10:17 PM well im a christian for one thing and i felt
                                  really bad after i did it with him cause i
                                  didnt care about him


ricA       2/23/00  10:18 PM but did you enjoy it?

gracie     2/23/00  10:18 PM no

ricA       2/23/00  10:19 PM you didn't enjoy it?

                                  prolly cuz it was your first time!

                                  the first time sucks.....even for
guys....cuz
                                  they don't know what feels good and such
                                  but after you bang a few people....then it
                                  gets real good. I try and have sex as much
as
                                  i can

gracie     2/23/00  10:19 PM yes and it hurt alot

ricA       2/23/00  10:21 PM yeah....you have to do it again.....that's
                                  when it gets good!!!

                                  and i mean GOOD....then you'll enjoy it
and it
                                  becomes like a drug. you'll want it more
and
                                  more....and then you'll be a dignified
slut
                                  (of course no one will know that though)

                                  would you ever have sex with the
pastor/preist
                                  of your church?

gracie     2/23/00  10:22 PM no way that is sick not my pastor

ricA       2/23/00  10:23 PM i take it you're not attracted to him....

                                  are you attracted to me?

gracie     2/23/00  10:23 PM so if a guy gets it from a girl once will he
                                  want it again?

gracie     2/23/00  10:24 PM not my pastor

ricA       2/23/00  10:24 PM oh defnitely!!!!

                                  guys want sex all the time

                                  i can attest to that

gracie     2/23/00  10:25 PM i asked him if he wanted to see me again and
                                  he said yep
                                  but he dont call me anymore he talks to me
a
                                  little on the computer

ricA       2/23/00  10:25 PM but you find me attractive right?

                                  you do don't you?

                                  i'd have sex with you........i'd be
                                  responsible for you turning into a slut
(but
                                  you'd love it)

gracie     2/23/00  10:25 PM yes

ricA       2/23/00  10:26 PM if you want to see him again, tell him you'll
                                  do anything he wants!!!

                                  he'll like that alot

gracie     2/23/00  10:26 PM really how do i keep my feelings out of it?

ricA       2/23/00  10:28 PM feelings schmeelings....trust me....the sex
                                  will be 100X better. think about your
feelings
                                  later.....right now, you have to learn the
art
                                  of sex....then there are two more classes
                                  after that....the art of making love and
the
                                  art of fucking.

                                  you need to graduate from these 3 classes
                                  before you are able to be happy

gracie     2/23/00  10:30 PM lol
                                  first i was on bottom then on top then on
                                  bottom and then on my knees we went for an
                                  hour

ricA       2/23/00  10:32 PM did you suck his dick?

gracie     2/23/00  10:32 PM no i got to play with it though

ricA       2/23/00  10:33 PM did he eat you out (lick your pussy)?

gracie     2/23/00  10:34 PM no he didnt he fingered me

ricA       2/23/00  10:35 PM did you like being fingered? did he play with
                                  your clit too?
                                  that's another art form....but that comes
                                  later........

                                  right now you have to focus on turning
                                  yourself into a slut
                                  (of course, without anyone knowing)

gracie     2/23/00  10:35 PM we were kinda in his room at his dad's house
                                  so we couldnt get too loud

ricA       2/23/00  10:35 PM how old was this guy?

gracie     2/23/00  10:36 PM 23

ricA       2/23/00  10:36 PM did he have a big cock?

gracie     2/23/00  10:36 PM yes

ricA       2/23/00  10:37 PM about how big was it.....was it bigger than a
                                  baby's arm?

gracie     2/23/00  10:38 PM about 6.5 or 7 inches

gracie     2/23/00  10:38 PM and round as a babys arm

ricA       2/23/00  10:39 PM did you take it all? i mean you said you were
                                  on top....did you ride him good and
                                  hard....did you grind it in? did you take
his
                                  big hard 7" cock all the way into your
cunt?

gracie     2/23/00  10:40 PM it was kinda hard at first to keep it in but
                                  yes i did

ricA       2/23/00  10:41 PM did you bounce up and down? did he "hit it
                                  from the back"
                                  did he fuck your asshole?

gracie     2/23/00  10:41 PM yes

ricA       2/23/00  10:42 PM he fucked you in the ass?

                                  i bet that hurt....being that he has a 7"
                                  cock!!!!

gracie     2/23/00  10:42 PM yes

ricA       2/23/00  10:43 PM did you like feeling his hard cock in your
                                  asshole?

                                  did he pull your hair while he fucked you
in
                                  the ass?

gracie     2/23/00  10:43 PM no he didnt pull my hair

ricA       2/23/00  10:44 PM did he call you a dirty nasty (insert
                                  derogitory female name here)?

gracie     2/23/00  10:45 PM no not really

gracie     2/23/00  10:46 PM i keep asking him when im gonna see him again
                                  and he says i dont know

ricA       2/23/00  10:46 PM not really?
                                  that means he must ahve called you
                                  something......sounds like you had a
pretty
                                  hot night of FUCKING.....that's not making
                                  love or sex....it's FUCKING!!!!!

                                  i think you want to do him again....but
you
                                  want to learn more....you want to know
what it
                                  feels like to be a slut and to enjoy sex
to
                                  the fullest extent.....don't you

gracie     2/23/00  10:47 PM he keeps saying he doesnt know when he is
                                  going to see me again

ricA       2/23/00  10:48 PM but you definitely want to see him again
                                  is that true?
                                  you want to fuck him again?

gracie     2/23/00  10:49 PM right

ricA       2/23/00  10:50 PM it sounds like he might not be interested in
                                  you anymore.....but that's ok....you can
go
                                  out and find someone else to teach you.

gracie     2/23/00  10:51 PM i am moving in a few months anyway so it
                                  doesnt really make a difference

ricA       2/23/00  10:51 PM where are you moving?

gracie     2/23/00  10:52 PM dayton ohio

ricA       2/23/00  10:54 PM i know some people in dayton......you want me
                                  to set you up with them? I bet they can
teach
                                  positions like you can't even imagine.

                                  they will make you scream for more....i
                                  guarentee it!!!


gracie     2/23/00  10:54 PM i think i can find my own way
                                  but thanks anyway

ricA       2/23/00  10:55 PM you sure?

                                  well tell me more about this guy

gracie     2/23/00  10:56 PM he is a scrub
                                  im looking for a long-term relationship
not
                                  just sex

ricA       2/23/00  10:57 PM that's what i'm telling you.....you can't have
                                  a long term relationship without
                                  sex.........therefore, you have to
practice
                                  it!!!!!!

gracie     2/23/00  10:57 PM but that cheapens things

ricA       2/23/00  10:59 PM no....it gets you ready for a long teerm
                                  relationship

                                  see....a man looks for a girl who wants to
                                  have sex ALL THE TIME.....but if you can't
                                  hang, he's gonna ditch you.

                                  trust me, the better you are at sex, the
more
                                  chance your relationship will last!

gracie     2/23/00  11:00 PM but how do they know if they dont hang around
                                  long enough to get good

ricA       2/23/00  11:02 PM you have to fuck alot of people not just one
                                  person. see, there are many styles, and if
                                  wanna be good at it, you have to learn all
the
                                  styles....and everyone has their own style
of
                                  fucking

gracie     2/23/00  11:03 PM so where does love fit in this equation?
                                  or is that a new concept?

ricA       2/23/00  11:06 PM you have to think about the sex as a tool to
                                  achieve love

                                  when sex comes as second nature to you,
then
                                  you can focus more on love.

                                  but sex is the #1 priority!!!

                                  so if you're good at sex....you'll keep
your
                                  man happy and he will keep you happy in
                                  return!

gracie     2/23/00  11:07 PM and then you have to watch who you have sex
                                  with cause there is aids and crabs and all
                                  kinds of lovely stuff

ricA       2/23/00  11:09 PM protection mah girl....you have to be careful.
                                  use condoms and get on the pill. us
                                  eeveryhting.....you can even use saran
wrap!!!

                                  make sure you're safe.......it's like me
and
                                  my friends say....there's nothing like
fucking
                                  a safe slut. you can always trust a safe
slut.

gracie     2/23/00  11:10 PM but you can still get diseases from testicles
                                  too

gracie     2/23/00  11:11 PM im getting on the pill next wednesday

ricA       2/23/00  11:11 PM liek i said.....saran wrap

                                  but i'll tell you this.....i'm not saying
just
                                  start fucking any guy in your path.....of
                                  course you want to observe the guys nuts
and
                                  see if there are any warts or defects of
any
                                  kind.....like i said....be a safe slut

ricA       2/23/00  11:12 PM so you are planning on having alot more sexual
                                  relations then?

gracie     2/23/00  11:12 PM no im saying it is better to be safe than
                                  sorry

ricA       2/23/00  11:13 PM i'm proud of you!!!! you have taken your first
                                  step into the necessities of safe
promiscuous
                                  sex!!!!

gracie     2/23/00  11:14 PM yeah whatever

gracie     2/23/00  11:14 PM he was shaved down there

ricA       2/23/00  11:15 PM he was shaved?

gracie     2/23/00  11:15 PM or maybe waxed

ricA       2/23/00  11:15 PM DAMN!!!

                                  was it smooth? did you like it shaved?

gracie     2/23/00  11:16 PM it was smooth as a babys butt

ricA       2/23/00  11:17 PM so tell me what you want to do to him nect
                                  time you fuck him

gracie     2/23/00  11:18 PM if i get too again i dont know what do you
                                  suggest

ricA       2/23/00  11:20 PM you tell me!!

                                  i'm not a girl

gracie     2/23/00  11:20 PM i dont know im new at this

ricA       2/23/00  11:21 PM you have to know what you want!!

                                  do you masturbate?

gracie     2/23/00  11:23 PM not latetly the week before last i had sex and
                                  was to sore to even walk almost then this
past
                                  week ive had my cycle so i havent since
                                  sometime in january

ricA       2/23/00  11:25 PM gracie.....i've been online a long time. i'm
                                  tired and i want to go to bed.....but this
is
                                  what i want you to do.

                                  i want you to take a bath....and make sure
you
                                  have a removable shower head with the
                                  "massage" option. and i want you to spend
time
                                  in the tub thinking about what you want to
do
                                  to somebody or what you want to be done to
                                  you. and then report back to me
                                  tomorrow.......ok?

gracie     2/23/00  11:26 PM ok goodnight

ricA       2/23/00  11:27 PM remember....you have to think like a slut to
                                  accomplish this

                                  ok?
                                  good night



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 18:46:18 2000
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what list?

<smack!>
sorry

--- Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com> wrote:
> but wouldn't it just be easier for him if we all
> just stopped sending
> messages to the list?
> 
> -t
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> >same here, poor helpless guy.  I tried telling him
> how, but I think I
> scared him
> >off.
> 
> 
> i believe he does this to everyone..........chris
> ahs gotten them and i have
> gotten quite a few and i've only been resubbed for a
> day now.
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> i say help him make his dreams come
> true.........Chad?
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:09:33 +0000, jason.clark wrote:

>I was hoping someone in the Chicagoland area could help me out....
>
>I need to get two tickets for the Cure in Chicago tomorrow! Tickets
>aren't available by phone, they are only on sale at the Vic and at Tower
>Records. If anyone could pick up a couple and hold them for me until
>tomorrow, I would be very very grateful and would shower you with love
>and praise.
>
>someone please email back if you can do this for me. i'll pay you back
>for the tickets as soon as i got up to Chicago, no doubt.
>

I drove down to Chicago last night to get tickets.
The Vic Theatre holds about 1500 people (approx.).
At the Tower Records downtown, there were 2000
people waiting.  At the Vic, there were another 1500.
I was at one of the suburban Tower Records and there
were about 800 people waiting.  We got about 1/2
way through the line there and it sold out =(

I did pick up the new album while I was there.
If you haven't heard it, it's incredible.  I would
describe it as a cross between Disintegration
and Wish, leaning more towards Disintegration.

I'm listening to it right now, actually =)

Anyway, the only chance of getting tickets now
is from a scalper, ticket broker or someone who
has extras.  I emailed 4 ticket brokers last night
and haven't heard back from any of them yet.

IF SOMEONE READING THIS HAS ANY EXTRA
TICKETS, I WILL PAY VERY NICELY FOR THEM !  =)

You also may be able to win tickets from Q101, obviously,
your chances are slim, but possible.  If you are not in the
Chicago area, you can listen to Q101 online by going
to www.q101.com.

Once again, if you have extra tickets for the Cure show
on Friday in Chicago, I'll buy them - top dollar ! 

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there isnt enough mail today...  my gpa isnt suffering enough.

tunes/albums i have been rocking to lately:

coy west-soulular sounds  -my one and only house tape
ahman-emotions -prog trance ... ahhh so nice
genaside II-ad finite - dark, intelligent jungle stuff from the uk
dj spree- rollercoaster -happyhardcore
rent
pantera-cowboys from hell - a blast from the past... makes me smile
grooverider-mysteries of funk - one hell of an album
the orb-orblivion
richie hawtin-decks,efx,909 - =)
orbital-halcyon on on ... omg ... one of the most beautiful tracks ever
massive attack-mezzanine  -... wow...:-)...

peace-
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Oh hell if she moves to Dayton, she has several
options:

- michael knight in Columbus
- sean in Dayton
- micah somewhere in Dayton (i think)
- shawne in Cincinnati
- myself in Lexington

OR

let's all get together and bang that ass!

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ricA

you are one sick twisted fuck but that HAS to be the funniest fucking post I 
have ever read...if you have not read this post...do it...you will laugh out 
loud.

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What's up everyonE,

    Well, herE I am just letting everyonE know that I'm new to the list (A 
whole two dayz now!) and thE area (been herE almost 4 weeks...  wow..  LoL), 
I don't know anyonE, anything blah blah and etc etc.  giggl*   I camE up herE 
from the DC RavE scenE, (I mish it!  *PoUt*) and I'm looking forward to 
checking out what you guys got up herE.  :)~*  
    I livE just north of Chicago right around Waukegan.  I'm surE somE of you 
know wherE that is.  If anyonE is near mE or in the general area, drop mE a 
linE sometimE or whatever.  I'd lovE to get to know somE peopLE around herE.
    I'm hoping to go to LivE on the Decks 3 on Saturday, if I get my car 
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for real, though?


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hEy, it is nicE to mEEt you! i hopE EvErything is
going wEll...

but seriously do we really have be this fucking
stupid?
God then people wonder why everybody in here hates
trance...change your alias at least ;)

misha

--- TRnCeGrLe@aol.com wrote:
> What's up everyonE,
> 
>     Well, herE I am just letting everyonE know that
> I'm new to the list (A 
> whole two dayz now!) and thE area (been herE almost
> 4 weeks...  wow..  LoL), 
> I don't know anyonE, anything blah blah and etc etc.
>  giggl*   I camE up herE 
> from the DC RavE scenE, (I mish it!  *PoUt*) and I'm
> looking forward to 
> checking out what you guys got up herE.  :)~*  
>     I livE just north of Chicago right around
> Waukegan.  I'm surE somE of you 
> know wherE that is.  If anyonE is near mE or in the
> general area, drop mE a 
> linE sometimE or whatever.  I'd lovE to get to know
> somE peopLE around herE.
>     I'm hoping to go to LivE on the Decks 3 on
> Saturday, if I get my car 
> fixed...  keep your fingers crossed, SO...  maybE I
> can meet up with somE 
> peopLE. SOOOooooooooo  I hopE I hear from
> someonE/anyone LoL.  :)
>             Aim:  TRnCeGrLe     ICQ:  32445448
> 
> ~MuAh~  ~PLUR~
> 
>         ~Tilt~
> 
> *It's nicE to bE important, but it's morE important
> to bE nicE*
> 
>
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: God then people wonder why everybody in here hates
: trance

i *heart* fucktrance!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 19:13:12 2000
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aw, shit i feel bad for the bugger, i started calling him names and shit!!  it appears that he replys to 
every post you send, but that has already been addressed, eh??

i thought the bastard was telling me to unsub,  hahahahaha

- john, i owe you one mate, but still fuck off for satan's sake!!

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what list?

<smack!>
sorry

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> just stopped sending
> messages to the list?
> 
> -t
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> how, but I think I
> scared him
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> 
> 
> i believe he does this to everyone..........chris
> ahs gotten them and i have
> gotten quite a few and i've only been resubbed for a
> day now.
> 
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> true.........Chad?
> 
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> what list?
> 
> <smack!>
> sorry
> 
> --- Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com> wrote:
> > but wouldn't it just be easier for him if we all
> > just stopped sending
> > messages to the list?
> > 
> > -t
> > 
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> > Subject: Re: [mw] NRR: Someone Help Mr. John Bianchi
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > how, but I think I
> > scared him
> > >off.
> > 
> > 
> > i believe he does this to everyone..........chris
> > ahs gotten them and i have
> > gotten quite a few and i've only been resubbed for a
> > day now.
> > 
> > i say help him make his dreams come
> > true.........Chad?
> > 
> > ricA
> > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 19:14:21 2000
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damn, that's a little harsh don't ya think?  sure, its annoying when people
type all 3133t and 5h1t, but come on...

-t

-----Original Message-----
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hEy, it is nicE to mEEt you! i hopE EvErything is
going wEll...

but seriously do we really have be this fucking
stupid?
God then people wonder why everybody in here hates
trance...change your alias at least ;)

misha

--- TRnCeGrLe@aol.com wrote:
> What's up everyonE,
> 
>     Well, herE I am just letting everyonE know that
> I'm new to the list (A 
> whole two dayz now!) and thE area (been herE almost
> 4 weeks...  wow..  LoL), 
> I don't know anyonE, anything blah blah and etc etc.
>  giggl*   I camE up herE 
> from the DC RavE scenE, (I mish it!  *PoUt*) and I'm
> looking forward to 
> checking out what you guys got up herE.  :)~*  
>     I livE just north of Chicago right around
> Waukegan.  I'm surE somE of you 
> know wherE that is.  If anyonE is near mE or in the
> general area, drop mE a 
> linE sometimE or whatever.  I'd lovE to get to know
> somE peopLE around herE.
>     I'm hoping to go to LivE on the Decks 3 on
> Saturday, if I get my car 
> fixed...  keep your fingers crossed, SO...  maybE I
> can meet up with somE 
> peopLE. SOOOooooooooo  I hopE I hear from
> someonE/anyone LoL.  :)
>             Aim:  TRnCeGrLe     ICQ:  32445448
> 
> ~MuAh~  ~PLUR~
> 
>         ~Tilt~
> 
> *It's nicE to bE important, but it's morE important
> to bE nicE*
> 
>
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The fuckers been emailing me too.
Not leavinshit
been sending him some nice emails back.
he dont apreciate shit like that I think
bye now.

--- ricA <ricasha@netzero.net> wrote:
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> 
> 
> >same here, poor helpless guy.  I tried telling him
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trance issues.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 19:16:53 2000
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God... I feel SOOOoOoOoOo WELCOMED...  Thanx!  :)

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PS - I hate trance, I'm a junglist...  L O N G story....

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 19:17:54 2000
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yeah i actually like Russian Folk music myself but
spin trance because it's just as gay and cheesy, plus
you can't find that much Russian Folk music out there
in the States and on vinyl that I could spin at
parties.

yeah i am sure there's a very long and interesting
story behind your handle and why you actually like
jungle and not trance. i am sure it involves chases,
cops, drugs, sex and a lot of violence.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 19:20:06 2000
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i think i saw that movie, oh wait, that's a lot of movies...

-t

-----Original Message-----
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yeah i actually like Russian Folk music myself but
spin trance because it's just as gay and cheesy, plus
you can't find that much Russian Folk music out there
in the States and on vinyl that I could spin at
parties.

yeah i am sure there's a very long and interesting
story behind your handle and why you actually like
jungle and not trance. i am sure it involves chases,
cops, drugs, sex and a lot of violence.

Misha
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huh?
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more like
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if it involves all that, let's hear it.

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*scared because she lives in Dayton*

That was a like a really bad alt.sex.story.  Sadly it was better than any
that have been posted to the newsgroup lately.

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It's not that interesting...  trust me..

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Some of you may have already heard a little about this but in case you
didn't know I am passing this on and urge you to spread this widely to see
that the person(s) responsible for this are quickly brought to justice and
that justice in this case is really carried out. I have spoken briefly with
Jordana by telephone to confirm most of what took place.

On the night of February 22, 2000 following a performance by Jordana (some
of you probably only know her as 1.8.7) at an event called Ephiphany at club
known as the Robin Hood in Kent Ohio, Jordana was brutally assaulted while
leaving the club to go to her hotel. She was punched directly in the face,
with a force so hard that it knocked her to the ground and she savagely
beaten by an unknown man in front of several witnesses including club staff,
and the promoter to the point where she blacked out.  When the man tried to
stomp on her the promoter and another guy chased him up the street where
they were then told to back off by a truckload of four or five guys who
claimed to have weapons. These guys were waiting for her near the parking
lot for her hotel and apperantly this guy who hit her did so prematurely and
probably ruined whatever plan was in place to attack her near the hotel.
According to several people the person who attacked Jordana and the group
waiting in the truck  were all regular partygoers in the Drum and Bass/Rave
scene in Ohio. A person who wants to remain anonymous who knows one of the
group in the truck claims that the group had planned kill "him" and leave
"him" there in the street for everyone to see. This leads me to believe that
the group's motive was not simply a random act of violence but a
premeditated hate crime not too different from what happened to Matthew
Sheppard.


Jordana had only blacked out for a minute but her nose and jaw were
fractured. This was only found out today when she went to her doctor
complaining of intense pain still in her face. The promoter did not take her
to the hospital he did however take her to the City of Kent police
department to file a report. When the police checked the computer for the
name that was given to them by an anonymous partygoer they found a man named
Matthew W. Gostlen who lived at 356 Spicer Street, Akron Ohio, 44310. This
guy had been in trouble with the law in the past. When Jordana asked the
police if they would arrest him she was told because this was at least a
misdemeanor assault the police officer told her they would not be arresting
him but would instead serve him a summons to appear in court and only if he
ignored the summons would a warrant for his arrest be issued. She told me
the victim's right's form she filled out and signedhad the arrest portion
crossed out with a "N/A" and summons written below it. Obviously this was
different from their normal police proceedure. Jordana who was in intense
pain and still bleeding did not argue with the officer about this but
instead accepted it has part of the justice process.

Now to me this sounds really WRONG. If someone assaults someone (it was a
first degree misdemeanor assualt) then they are obviously a threat to the
community and if the police knew where to find this guy then why didn't they
bother arresting him? Someone I know in Cleveland raised the issue that Kent
is a small conservative town and Jordana is black and the fellow who
attacked her is white and had it been the other way around (a black guy who
attacked a white girl) the police most likely would have reacted alot
different. This has to be stressed that this is ONLY speculation on this
other witnesses part but I do find it strange. I urge you to call the Kent,
Ohio Police department at 330-673-7732 and *respectfully* express your
concern about the handling of case number 00-2825, an assualt on Jordana
LeSesne.

When Jordana asked what else she could do the officer told her she could
file a civil suit against him. I asked Jordana if she planned to do this and
she said she might but it will involve alot of traveling from her place in
Philadelphia to Kent to do and right now she was most concerned with the
criminal case. It would be hard because most of the witnesses ran off and
only the promoter and the other guy who chased the man up the street went
with her to the police. Other witnesses who had told her they'd go and file
a report never showed up and likely went home or to an afterparty.

We did not talk long since she was still in great pain from the doctor
trying to reset her jawbone but she mentioned that she is cancelling most of
the tour dates but she may still be playing in Washington DC on Saturday if
she feels up to it. She said it's doubtful because her spirit is broken and
she has had the last straw after what has been two years of escalating hate
emails, nasty postings about her on the internet and death threats left on
her voicemail. She said she is probably going to quit DJing because she no
longer feels safe or protected and the only thing that could have stopped
the attack that was planned for her was an armed bodyguard who traveled with
her, something no one has the money for. She also said that it might be time
for her to just leave music altogether and  she is considering that so that
she can get on with a "normal" life. Her doctor told her she should feel a
little better in a couple of days and she was prescribed pain killers.

Lets all hope that when she fully recovers that she jumps right back in and
fights on. It would be a shame to lose such a great talent because of a
group of barbarians. I am really upset at this and the fact that the DnB
scene has come to this kind of hatred but at the same time I think we should
all thank the promoter, Chris Graves, and the other guy who chased this
"strong man" down because they prevented a far worse attack which would have
probably have killed Jordana.

The last person who believes in plur...
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atomly hit me with an email

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Your E key seems to be having troubles. 

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
> i *heart* atomly

You really know how to make a guy all warm and fuzzy!  :)

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yEah, aftEr four hours it wEars off, bro.

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At 09:32 24-2-00 -0500, you wrote:

> >>That can be arranged. Those boys do anything for money.

>Shit...are they still around?

Yes, sir. They're hosting a house/club music show on a Dutch music station 
right now.

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* Up-coming Boogie Tribe events:
* questions and comments can be directed to boogietribe@hotmail.com
__________________________________________________________
Friday Free Pre-Party: Grand Opening of Club Eden
Meet Live On The Decks 3 Artists @
Club Eden
3407 N. Clark Street
21 & Over
Two Levels
Level 1: Chill Drum "n" Bass by Underground Sol Jazz
Level 2:
Live performance by System X-Matt & Dash Michaels Unique Music Recordings
Along with Boogie Tribe Residents:
Paul Anthony    Roger De Luna   Eddie De Soto   Frankie Vega
Cocktail Reception 9-11
Complimentary Admission All Night Long

PreSale/Advanced Tickets
Presale tickets are sold out. This does not mean our event is sold out.
4000 tickets remain and can be purchased for $35 at "Untitled Clothing".
Tickets will be on sale from 11AM to 9PM every day until Saturday February=20
26th.  Get your tickets as early as possible! We believe that there is a=20
chance by 9PM on Saturday we will be sold out. If it looks like we'll sell=20
out we will reserve the final couple hundred tickets for out of state=20
people.

Untitled Clothing
2705 N. Clark Street
1-773-404-9225

Directions to Untitled Clothing for the Marathon Sale:
>From the North into Chicago,
1) take 90/94 into Chicago
2) exit on Fullerton
3) make a LEFT onto Fullerton,

>From the South into Chicago
1) take 90/94 into Chicago
2) exit on Fullerton
3) make RIGHT onto Fullerton

>From the West into Chicago
1) either 290 East into downtown Chicago or I55 North into downtown Chicago
2) exit 90/94 Wisconsin, pass downtown Chicago going north
3)   exit on Fullerton
4)   make a right onto Fullerton

Now, we are all heading in the same direction (going east on Fullerton)
4) Proceed East on Fullerton to Halsted Street
5) Make a left onto Halsted Street
6) Proceed north on Halsted Street to Diversey
7) Make a right onto Diversey,
8) Proceed east on Diversey to Clark Street
9) Make a right onto Clark Street
10) Go a half block on Clark, on your left hand side is Untitled Clothing
11) Please have your money organized. Have one person in your car come into=20
the store to purchase tickets for everyone.  This will help alleviate=20
congestion in the store.

Ticket Availability
1. Untitled Clothing will close doors at 9PM on Saturday Feb. 26th.
2. If the event sells out, only ticket holders will be allowed into the=20
event.
3. If we do not sell out by 9PM, we will direct people to the venue. We will=
=20
accept payment at the venue until we reach our capacity of 6000.

Venue
Harvey Expo Center & Photon
17100 S. Halsted
Harvey, IL
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From: Jon Gotti <j_gotti_dnb@yahoo.com>
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I dont know if this was recieved here yet, but here ya
go just in case.
This is really fucked up.

--- PunXieS@aol.com wrote:
> From: PunXieS@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:00:58 EST
> To: kc-raves@egroups.com, stl-raves@egroups.com
> Subject: [stl] Jordana aka 187
> 
> 
> DATE: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:32:54
> From: Brad Johnson <brad_p_johnson@email.com>
> 
> Some of you may have already heard a little about
> this but in case you
> didn't know I am passing this on and urge you to
> spread this widely to see
> that the person(s) responsible for this are quickly
> brought to justice and
> that justice in this case is really carried out. I
> have spoken briefly with
> Jordana by telephone to confirm most of what took
> place.
> 
> On the night of February 22, 2000 following a
> performance by Jordana (some
> of you probably only know her as 1.8.7) at an event
> called Ephiphany at club
> known as the Robin Hood in Kent Ohio, Jordana was
> brutally assaulted while
> leaving the club to go to her hotel. She was punched
> directly in the face,
> with a force so hard that it knocked her to the
> ground and she savagely
> beaten by an unknown man in front of several
> witnesses including club staff,
> and the promoter to the point where she blacked out.
>  When the man tried to
> stomp on her the promoter and another guy chased him
> up the street where
> they were then told to back off by a truckload of
> four or five guys who
> claimed to have weapons. These guys were waiting for
> her near the parking
> lot for her hotel and apperantly this guy who hit
> her did so prematurely and
> probably ruined whatever plan was in place to attack
> her near the hotel.
> According to several people the person who attacked
> Jordana and the group
> waiting in the truck  were all regular partygoers in
> the Drum and Bass/Rave
> scene in Ohio. A person who wants to remain
> anonymous who knows one of the
> group in the truck claims that the group had planned
> kill "him" and leave
> "him" there in the street for everyone to see. This
> leads me to believe that
> the group's motive was not simply a random act of
> violence but a
> premeditated hate crime not too different from what
> happened to Matthew
> Sheppard.
> 
> 
> Jordana had only blacked out for a minute but her
> nose and jaw were
> fractured. This was only found out today when she
> went to her doctor
> complaining of intense pain still in her face. The
> promoter did not take her
> to the hospital he did however take her to the City
> of Kent police
> department to file a report. When the police checked
> the computer for the
> name that was given to them by an anonymous
> partygoer they found a man named
> Matthew W. Gostlen who lived at 356 Spicer Street,
> Akron Ohio, 44310. This
> guy had been in trouble with the law in the past.
> When Jordana asked the
> police if they would arrest him she was told because
> this was at least a
> misdemeanor assault the police officer told her they
> would not be arresting
> him but would instead serve him a summons to appear
> in court and only if he
> ignored the summons would a warrant for his arrest
> be issued. She told me
> the victim's right's form she filled out and
> signedhad the arrest portion
> crossed out with a "N/A" and summons written below
> it. Obviously this was
> different from their normal police proceedure.
> Jordana who was in intense
> pain and still bleeding did not argue with the
> officer about this but
> instead accepted it has part of the justice process.
> 
> Now to me this sounds really WRONG. If someone
> assaults someone (it was a
> first degree misdemeanor assualt) then they are
> obviously a threat to the
> community and if the police knew where to find this
> guy then why didn't they
> bother arresting him? Someone I know in Cleveland
> raised the issue that Kent
> is a small conservative town and Jordana is black
> and the fellow who
> attacked her is white and had it been the other way
> around (a black guy who
> attacked a white girl) the police most likely would
> have reacted alot
> different. This has to be stressed that this is ONLY
> speculation on this
> other witnesses part but I do find it strange. I
> urge you to call the Kent,
> Ohio Police department at 330-673-7732 and
> *respectfully* express your
> concern about the handling of case number 00-2825,
> an assualt on Jordana
> LeSesne.
> 
> When Jordana asked what else she could do the
> officer told her she could
> file a civil suit against him. I asked Jordana if
> she planned to do this and
> she said she might but it will involve alot of
> traveling from her place in
> Philadelphia to Kent to do and right now she was
> most concerned with the
> criminal case. It would be hard because most of the
> witnesses ran off and
> only the promoter and the other guy who chased the
> man up the street went
> with her to the police. Other witnesses who had told
> her they'd go and file
> a report never showed up and likely went home or to
> an afterparty.
> 
> We did not talk long since she was still in great
> pain from the doctor
> trying to reset her jawbone but she mentioned that
> she is cancelling most of
> the tour dates but she may still be playing in
> Washington DC on Saturday if
> she feels up to it. She said it's doubtful because
> her spirit is broken and
> she has had the last straw after what has been two
> years of escalating hate
> emails, nasty postings about her on the internet and
> death threats left on
> her voicemail. She said she is probably going to
> quit DJing because she no
> longer feels safe or protected and the only thing
> that could have stopped
> the attack that was planned for her was an armed
> bodyguard who traveled with
> her, something no one has the money for. She also
> said that it might be time
> for her to just leave music altogether and  she is
> considering that so that
> she can get on with a "normal" life. Her doctor told
> her she should feel a
> little better in a couple of days and she was
> prescribed pain killers.
> 
> Lets all hope that when she fully recovers that she
> jumps right back in and
> fights on. It would be a shame to lose such a great
> talent because of a
> group of barbarians. I am really upset at this and
> the fact that the DnB
> scene has come to this kind of hatred but at the
> same time I think we should
> all thank the promoter, Chris Graves, and the other
> guy who chased this
> "strong man" down because they prevented a far worse
> attack which would have
> probably have killed Jordana.
> 
> The last person who believes in plur...
> brad
> 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 24 21:37:06 2000
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This is fucking Ridiculous,Jordana is a Buddy of mine...and has sent me 
music in the past...everytime I have chatted with her..she seems like a 
great person,i don't know why anyone would fucking do this...this is really 
upsetting to me.

I hope whoever did this is Picked up by the police.

best regards :(
-winn./nujack


>From: Brad Johnson <brad_p_johnson@email.com>
>Reply-To: Brad Johnson <brad_p_johnson@email.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org,  
>nw-raves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, scr@socal-raves.org,  
>txraves@onramp.net, dcraves@hyperreal.org, boston-raves@ravedata.org,  
>fl-raves@ravedata.org, se-raves@ravedata.org
>Subject: [mw] Jordana (187) Brutally beaten in Ohio
>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:32:54 -0500 (EST)
>
>Some of you may have already heard a little about this but in case you
>didn't know I am passing this on and urge you to spread this widely to see
>that the person(s) responsible for this are quickly brought to justice and
>that justice in this case is really carried out. I have spoken briefly with
>Jordana by telephone to confirm most of what took place.
>
>On the night of February 22, 2000 following a performance by Jordana (some
>of you probably only know her as 1.8.7) at an event called Ephiphany at 
>club
>known as the Robin Hood in Kent Ohio, Jordana was brutally assaulted while
>leaving the club to go to her hotel. She was punched directly in the face,
>with a force so hard that it knocked her to the ground and she savagely
>beaten by an unknown man in front of several witnesses including club 
>staff,
>and the promoter to the point where she blacked out.  When the man tried to
>stomp on her the promoter and another guy chased him up the street where
>they were then told to back off by a truckload of four or five guys who
>claimed to have weapons. These guys were waiting for her near the parking
>lot for her hotel and apperantly this guy who hit her did so prematurely 
>and
>probably ruined whatever plan was in place to attack her near the hotel.
>According to several people the person who attacked Jordana and the group
>waiting in the truck  were all regular partygoers in the Drum and Bass/Rave
>scene in Ohio. A person who wants to remain anonymous who knows one of the
>group in the truck claims that the group had planned kill "him" and leave
>"him" there in the street for everyone to see. This leads me to believe 
>that
>the group's motive was not simply a random act of violence but a
>premeditated hate crime not too different from what happened to Matthew
>Sheppard.
>
>
>Jordana had only blacked out for a minute but her nose and jaw were
>fractured. This was only found out today when she went to her doctor
>complaining of intense pain still in her face. The promoter did not take 
>her
>to the hospital he did however take her to the City of Kent police
>department to file a report. When the police checked the computer for the
>name that was given to them by an anonymous partygoer they found a man 
>named
>Matthew W. Gostlen who lived at 356 Spicer Street, Akron Ohio, 44310. This
>guy had been in trouble with the law in the past. When Jordana asked the
>police if they would arrest him she was told because this was at least a
>misdemeanor assault the police officer told her they would not be arresting
>him but would instead serve him a summons to appear in court and only if he
>ignored the summons would a warrant for his arrest be issued. She told me
>the victim's right's form she filled out and signedhad the arrest portion
>crossed out with a "N/A" and summons written below it. Obviously this was
>different from their normal police proceedure. Jordana who was in intense
>pain and still bleeding did not argue with the officer about this but
>instead accepted it has part of the justice process.
>
>Now to me this sounds really WRONG. If someone assaults someone (it was a
>first degree misdemeanor assualt) then they are obviously a threat to the
>community and if the police knew where to find this guy then why didn't 
>they
>bother arresting him? Someone I know in Cleveland raised the issue that 
>Kent
>is a small conservative town and Jordana is black and the fellow who
>attacked her is white and had it been the other way around (a black guy who
>attacked a white girl) the police most likely would have reacted alot
>different. This has to be stressed that this is ONLY speculation on this
>other witnesses part but I do find it strange. I urge you to call the Kent,
>Ohio Police department at 330-673-7732 and *respectfully* express your
>concern about the handling of case number 00-2825, an assualt on Jordana
>LeSesne.
>
>When Jordana asked what else she could do the officer told her she could
>file a civil suit against him. I asked Jordana if she planned to do this 
>and
>she said she might but it will involve alot of traveling from her place in
>Philadelphia to Kent to do and right now she was most concerned with the
>criminal case. It would be hard because most of the witnesses ran off and
>only the promoter and the other guy who chased the man up the street went
>with her to the police. Other witnesses who had told her they'd go and file
>a report never showed up and likely went home or to an afterparty.
>
>We did not talk long since she was still in great pain from the doctor
>trying to reset her jawbone but she mentioned that she is cancelling most 
>of
>the tour dates but she may still be playing in Washington DC on Saturday if
>she feels up to it. She said it's doubtful because her spirit is broken and
>she has had the last straw after what has been two years of escalating hate
>emails, nasty postings about her on the internet and death threats left on
>her voicemail. She said she is probably going to quit DJing because she no
>longer feels safe or protected and the only thing that could have stopped
>the attack that was planned for her was an armed bodyguard who traveled 
>with
>her, something no one has the money for. She also said that it might be 
>time
>for her to just leave music altogether and  she is considering that so that
>she can get on with a "normal" life. Her doctor told her she should feel a
>little better in a couple of days and she was prescribed pain killers.
>
>Lets all hope that when she fully recovers that she jumps right back in and
>fights on. It would be a shame to lose such a great talent because of a
>group of barbarians. I am really upset at this and the fact that the DnB
>scene has come to this kind of hatred but at the same time I think we 
>should
>all thank the promoter, Chris Graves, and the other guy who chased this
>"strong man" down because they prevented a far worse attack which would 
>have
>probably have killed Jordana.
>
>The last person who believes in plur...
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>>she seems like a great person,i don't know why anyone would fucking do 
>>this...this is really upsetting to me.

Why?  Ok...I don't know about 1.8.7 all that well, but if I'm not mistaken, 
she's a post-op transexual, right?  There's a lot of tension in "the scene" 
all over the country towards the gay/lesbian community within, but tv/ts 
people have it even worse (mostly because people think tv/ts has anything to 
do with sexual orientation and it doesn't).  That should be an obvious 
reason for prejudice against someone (in our present culture).  I'm very 
appauled by this news...but not surprised...not in the least.

Is there an email address or address we can send cards/flowers to her at?

Jim
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In a message dated 2/24/00 9:37:48 PM !!!First Boot!!!, nujack@hotmail.com 
writes:

<< This is fucking Ridiculous,Jordana is a Buddy of mine...and has sent me 
 music in the past...everytime I have chatted with her..she seems like a 
 great person,i don't know why anyone would fucking do this...this is really 
 upsetting to me.
  >>
The prevailing problem is intolerance.

That much is true.


But, above that is indifference.  

For instance, in the story, for whatever reason,
the guy who said he would go to the police station
and help identify the attackers didn't.

Chances are, those kids won't get picked up, they 
won't get prosecuted, and they won't learn their 
lesson.  It's mainly because we will sit and say
"how awful" but very few of us will act.  

For instance, how many of us jotted down the #
to call the Kent Police???  How many of us even
considered that an option???  Every little bit helps.
But when you sit and do nothing, you're basically 
promoting this kind of behavior.

It's the same theory that if you don't vote, you
voted for the winner.  If you do nothing, you might
as well be shaking the perpetrator's hand and 
congradulating him on a job well done!

-House of Babylon

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I'm not sure on the exact details,as far as post op etc...
But,who the fuck really cares...this could have well been reasoning which i 
don't doubt,but i don't see why anyone would want to fucking do that...i 
mean in a reasonable mind set...I see that as reasonable as shooting a girl 
because they won't go to a highschool senior prom with you.

-winn.nujack

there is an address for f
>From: "Boppity" <boppity@hotmail.com>
>To: nujack@hotmail.com
>CC: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: Jordana (187) Brutally beaten in Ohio
>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:45:37 EST
>
>>>she seems like a great person,i don't know why anyone would fucking do 
>>>this...this is really upsetting to me.
>
>Why?  Ok...I don't know about 1.8.7 all that well, but if I'm not mistaken, 
>she's a post-op transexual, right?  There's a lot of tension in "the scene" 
>all over the country towards the gay/lesbian community within, but tv/ts 
>people have it even worse (mostly because people think tv/ts has anything 
>to do with sexual orientation and it doesn't).  That should be an obvious 
>reason for prejudice against someone (in our present culture).  I'm very 
>appauled by this news...but not surprised...not in the least.
>
>Is there an email address or address we can send cards/flowers to her at?
>
>Jim
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I'm not sure on the exact details,as far as post op etc...
But,who the fuck really cares...this could have well been reasoning which i 
don't doubt,but i don't see why anyone would want to fucking do that...i 
mean in a reasonable mind set...I see that as reasonable as shooting a girl 
because they won't go to a highschool senior prom with you.

-winn.nujack

there is an address for f
>From: "Boppity" <boppity@hotmail.com>
>To: nujack@hotmail.com
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>Subject: Re: Jordana (187) Brutally beaten in Ohio
>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:45:37 EST
>
>>>she seems like a great person,i don't know why anyone would fucking do 
>>>this...this is really upsetting to me.
>
>Why?  Ok...I don't know about 1.8.7 all that well, but if I'm not mistaken, 
>she's a post-op transexual, right?  There's a lot of tension in "the scene" 
>all over the country towards the gay/lesbian community within, but tv/ts 
>people have it even worse (mostly because people think tv/ts has anything 
>to do with sexual orientation and it doesn't).  That should be an obvious 
>reason for prejudice against someone (in our present culture).  I'm very 
>appauled by this news...but not surprised...not in the least.
>
>Is there an email address or address we can send cards/flowers to her at?
>
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In a message dated 2/24/00 3:15:55 PM Central Standard Time, 
XxAeOn99xX@aol.com writes:

<< PreSale/Advanced Tickets
 Presale tickets are sold out. This does not mean our event is sold out.
 4000 tickets remain and can be purchased for $35 at "Untitled Clothing".
 Tickets will be on sale from 11AM to 9PM every day until Saturday February 
 26th.  Get your tickets as early as possible! We believe that there is a 
 chance by 9PM on Saturday we will be sold out. If it looks like we'll sell 
 out we will reserve the final couple hundred tickets for out of state 
 people. >>
wtf what do u mean presales are sold out but u can still get them at untitled 
clothing.  why dont u guys "boggie tribe" go back to what u guys use to do 
"selling drugs".  if anyone was gong to get tickets i would make sure u call 
frist cuz my frind got some and there were more then 35.  there is no way i 
think this party is worth this much. 



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presale tickets were $25 I think, they are selling "advanced tickets" for $35.
the total comes to $36 because there is a $1 service charge.

- Goose

RaVeRaPuNK@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/24/00 3:15:55 PM Central Standard Time,
> XxAeOn99xX@aol.com writes:
>
> << PreSale/Advanced Tickets
>  Presale tickets are sold out. This does not mean our event is sold out.
>  4000 tickets remain and can be purchased for $35 at "Untitled Clothing".
>  Tickets will be on sale from 11AM to 9PM every day until Saturday February
>  26th.  Get your tickets as early as possible! We believe that there is a
>  chance by 9PM on Saturday we will be sold out. If it looks like we'll sell
>  out we will reserve the final couple hundred tickets for out of state
>  people. >>
> wtf what do u mean presales are sold out but u can still get them at untitled
> clothing.  why dont u guys "boggie tribe" go back to what u guys use to do
> "selling drugs".  if anyone was gong to get tickets i would make sure u call
> frist cuz my frind got some and there were more then 35.  there is no way i
> think this party is worth this much.
>
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presales = cheaper tix..those are all out....

advance purchase is still available...

they should be 35 plus a dollar for untitled's service charge. but by all 
means please call ahead to make sure


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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Hugh G. Blaze wrote:
> yEah, aftEr four hours it wEars off, bro.

Will you give me a Cleveland Seabreeze?

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EZ-ROLLERS!!!!!, peshay, london elektricity, dillinja, adam f,
carlito/guardians of dalliance, flytronix, fabio, fellowship, sdf-one,
autechre, aphex twin, amon tobin, squarepusher, underworld, morgan
geist, and last but certainly not least XTC(the band kiddies)

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 I hadn't heard this. Damn.. Though I readily admit that this sort of violence is nothing new, to
say it doesn't come as a surprise *every* time would in my opinion be a very callous response. I
hope that such disgusting behaviour on the part of anyone, especially people involved (no,
obviously not involved but.. present) in whatever way in the "scene" (a word that, in this
context, leaves a very bad aftertaste) will always come as a shock to me. I will never accept this
as a part of my reality, no matter how prevalent it becomes. Not to attack you personally Winn;
I'm just stating my opinion.

 Do I understand correctly that the promoters, venue owners, and possibly others stood by and let
this happen? This is simply pathetic and only reinforces my opinion of the vacuous nature of the
typical PLURry feel-good rave crap I see sound blithely espoused. When confronted with all the
things we claim to stand against, this is the reaction? "We speak the way we breathe."

 The most tragic part of this to me is the possibility of her leaving music behind. I admit that I
am incapable of understanding the hardships leading up to this decision and will therefore refrain
from offering any arguments against it, other than to say that I think for her to quit now would
be exactly what these.. beings.. were trying to accomplish. When you speak to her again, please
urge her to reconsider and let her know that there are those of us who support her right to live
the life she chooses. I hope someone who knows the identity of these cretins will come forward..
Until then, I can't stop feeling as though we are all guilty.




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well then that means there would be no Mw-raves, because we couldn't resp=
ond
because Mr. Bianchi wouldn't allow that.  =


Chad do something about this kid please, he's still doing it.  I'm all ab=
out
being nice and what not, but I'm starting to reach my pissed off levels.


heh :P =

Fuego!





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but wouldn't it just be easier for him if we all just stopped sending
messages to the list?

-t

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>same here, poor helpless guy.  I tried telling him how, but I think I
scared him
>off.


i believe he does this to everyone..........chris ahs gotten them and i h=
ave
gotten quite a few and i've only been resubbed for a day now.

i say help him make his dreams come true.........Chad?

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--- anthony taylor <anthonytaylor85@hotmail.com> wrote:
> From: "anthony taylor" <anthonytaylor85@hotmail.com>
> To: te_one@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [mw] Jordana (187) Brutally beaten in Ohio
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> please take me off the mailing list.
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 Seriously though.. Scroll down the next message you get.. See that link for the FAQ? Go read it,
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>>whee!)
>without petty insults, though, and remarks such as that.


I believe that waas misha's gripe... that was a petty insult.  and I agree
with misha... and if he wants to say whomever is a fucknut or dumbass or
whatever for posting sumfn as banal as what was posted... so what????
bannality begets bannality.  *shrug*


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>Chad do something about this kid please, he's still doing it.  I'm all about
>being nice and what not, but I'm starting to reach my pissed off levels.


I sent him a scathing e-mail first thing this morning and he hasn't written
me since.  Maybe you should stop being nice.  I think he likes it when
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john unsubbed earlier today.  the world should return to normal soon.

chad



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>questioning.  As soon as we have complacency, things start to suck.  That
>is my problem with trance- it has reached a complete formula and I have
>heard little innovation in it in a long time.  This is the same problem I

Really do you listen to much trance at all?? b/c from what your saying hear
I'd honestly have to say you dont know what the fuck your talking about.
Have you checked out anything coming out of Australia? they are  truly sick
and twisted people.  Still there is a lot of formulaic music out there  but
really 95% (maybe more) of the music played at raves is *DANCE* music which
really is a formula in and of itself, if it werent it would be fucking hard
to dance too.

>
>I think that as soon as it is a genre, it's probably not worth writing
>anymore if you're looking to be at all innovative.  This is much like my

I think thats a whacked line of reasoning... just b/c sumfn has a 'name'
doesnt mean it has to be pigeon holed.... genre's at most are just a ball
park description more of an adjective of a song rahter than a definition... 

>bring that back.  Sure, people who write trance might have some strong
>political views, but they certainly aren't expressing them through that
>drum roll. 

I'm going to quote you to answer this: 

>As Jon Gotti said, raving didn't start out as anything more than people
>wanting to dance all night.  People came into this a few years later and

I'd say the above is pretty much the "right" reason for going to a party...
 (maybe not the only one but the major big one).

Really raving isnt about politics... its not about idealism.. it really
isnt about anything... its not a "movement" we dont have any common
ideals.. other than to "party."  Are you losing sight of that???  half your
post seems to point to that yet you seem to dis on trance music for not
being political??  I wasnt aware that there were any particular beliefs or
views necessary to be held to go to a rave.

>theory that as soon as you have a "scene," it's probably time to move on
>because that means it's just going to be a bunch of people who are there
>for the wrong reasons.


> Especially not when it's being spun by a DJ making a few
>thousand dollars to play at a venue packed full of thousands of kids who
>stole their parents' money or sold bunk drugs to their best friends so
>that they could sit around all weekend melting in a corner talking about
>"PLUR." 

This has absolutely nothing to do with trance... anymore than say hardcore
or jungle or minimal techno or house or even experimental.  None of which
really seem any more or less political than trance  (to me).






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>But I know people who use this same line of reasoning to justify listening
>to Skrewdriver, a very very hardcore punk band that is also very very
>Nazi.  Whenever I question them about it, they say, "Yea, it sucks that
>they're so racist, but they're just so good."

How in the hell does that compare to listening to music that *does not*
have a message?

How does music filled with neo-nazi rhetoric compare to trance?? at all... if
you wanted to make that argument about ghetto house and how is
'subjectifies women' you be
on your way to making a valid point (still far from it IMO).


>
>I know that this is an extreme example, but I'm just making a point.
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I dont think your making a pointless.

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i saw darren emerson spin a couple of weeks ago kinda
expecting to be disappointed for some reason.  but he
was pretty good.  good tech-house.  no underworld tunes.


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>On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 06:52:42PM -0500, Sterling wrote:
>> underworld


I saw Underworld live in 96.  Incredible.

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>>
>>I know that this is an extreme example, but I'm just making a point.
>>
>I dont think your making a pointless.
>
>tad

okay.

WHAT?

maybe this is me not comprehending..very possible.. but.. aah. my brain is
bubbling.

the response to 'i'm just making a point' is not, in any possible way, 'i
dont think your making a pointless.'
(a) you're and your are two different words. methinks you meant the former.
(b) two negatives = positive. if pointless is supposed to be contrary to
point, then 'i think you're making a pointless' or even 'i don't think
you're making a point' would be opposite. 'i don't think you're making a
pointless' would essentially be the same as 'you're making a point.'

thats all.
please ignore..

karolyn

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(i love shameless self promotion!)

hey check out my new shit on www.mp3.com/celticanarchy
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>>>>I believe that waas misha's gripe... that was a petty insult.  and I agree
with misha... and if he wants to say whomever is a fucknut or dumbass or
whatever for posting sumfn as banal as what was posted... so what????
bannality begets bannality.  *shrug*<<<<


I had two fucknuts and a beget with butter for lunch today.

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Acid Junkies
Aphex Twin
Lenny Dee
Laurient Ho
Miss DJax
Deadly Bhudda
Taylor
Steve Loria
Mixmaster Morris
Spiral Tribe-do their tour thing again
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[Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com>]
> yeah i actually like Russian Folk music myself but
> spin trance because it's just as gay and cheesy, plus
> you can't find that much Russian Folk music out there
> in the States and on vinyl that I could spin at
> parties.
> 

i *heart* misha.


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i would like to see pretty much everyone lorie listed and then some...

lemme see 
(i could go on for days...trust me)
hawtin (again...dammit i wanna hear him this time...dont get me wrong
drunken revelry was great...but I WANT SOME TEKKNO GAWDDAMIT)

mills
marco corola (ken and lorie and everyone have sparked my interest)
mull
kenny larkin
misstress barbara (march fourth baby..indy)
sven vath 
dumb type (oooooh those mp3s kick my fuckin ass)
wagon christ (yummy.)
aphex twin 
squarepusher 
kraftwerk
unit
AUTECHRE (mmmmmmm)
todd terry (i can dream can't i?)
buzz fuzz
mark n (dammit i miss him every time he is around)
roy davis jr (again and again and again)
trevor lamont and samme (okay...they are here all the time. dont mean i
dont want to see them again...=)...)
prototype 909 (i know..i know...but i miss em)
mark farina (another one of those people i dig that around but i cant get
enough of)
lil louis vega (cincy really soon...woohoo)
dave clarke (mmmm)
rush (mmm)
ed rush
optical
esassin
ufo
SS
derrick carter 
derrick may
tyoshi suzuki (i dont like goa trance but dammit this guy rocks my socks)
carl craig
james pennington (again...)
feelgood (i love this man!)
armand van helden (the only guy i would ever be a dj whore for.)
kenny ken (without mc fearless)
eye-d 
rabbit in the moon (i havent seen them in years...gimme a break)
adult
perspects
flooresesence and freakquincy (the right way to do breaks.)
hyst (another good atl breaks dj)
oakey (yes i like pussy ass trance)
pvd (more p.a.t.)
dan efex 
johannes heil
laurent ho
ollie ho
sean od (memphis represent)
doormouse (HAWDKOR!)
anonymous
unibomber
fishead
dj pierre
donald glaude
matt bandy/shiva/adam jay tag or separate..all badassssss
lego
romanthony (mmm i love "the wanderer" still)
larry breaks
zach (freebass nola)
jarrell (new orleans house...mmm)
tony humphries
hardkiss brothers (all of em together)
chemical brothers (heard a liva pa tape of theres from england several
years ago...schweeeeeeet)
commander tom
acid scout
dj hell
stacey pullen (mmmm konfused...)
dave angel
roland casper
steve stoll (i know he just was in indy but i had to miss it =(

and of course DJ KEOKI cuz he ROCKS MY SOCKS CUZ HE CAN SNORT COKE OFF
TURNTABLES SPIN SHITTY MIXES AND THEN PASS OUT ON THE TABLES

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Tad wrote:
> How in the hell does that compare to listening to music that *does not*

Because, as I said before, you're giving money to a neo-Nazi!  Not
something I really like to do, personally.

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In a message dated 24/02/00 9:41:21 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
lgoller@indiana.edu writes:

<< steve stoll (i know he just was in indy but i had to miss it =( >>


NO SHOW GODDAMNIT

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, matt hellige wrote:

> i *heart* misha.
> 

me too


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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, matt hellige wrote:
> i *heart* misha.

SO WHY DON'T YOU MARRY HIM?

The INS would love that.

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shhh...we cannot talk of such things in public forum

misha

--- atomly <atomly@atomly.com> wrote:
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> > i *heart* misha.
> 
> SO WHY DON'T YOU MARRY HIM?
> 
> The INS would love that.
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[>i *heart* misha.

i *heart* *heart*.




<sorry, chad>


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don't ask don't tell you stupid fairy.

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    Hey folks, just a little note to tell you that
www.nextstepproductions.net is up and working. Unfortunately working is
about all it is, I know it need alot of work (not to mention a few pages),
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Oh My Fucking God Who Changed The Web Page?

I've never been so stunned in my life. WHERE'S THE BIG CONFUSING DOTTED
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>I saw Underworld live in 96.  Incredible.


oh yeah? I saw someone's mom (i'm not saying whose) fuck 3 guys, a horse,
and the family dog all at the same time online netcast last week.

It was quite the spectacular "site".

nothing short than amazing

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>>I saw Underworld live in 96.  Incredible.
>
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>oh yeah? I saw someone's mom (i'm not saying whose) fuck 3 guys, a horse,
>and the family dog all at the same time online netcast last week.
>

When I saw the Underworld I saw them with Meat Beat Manifesto, Chemical
Brothers, Orb, and Orbital.  woohoo

I also saw myself tying StevieT to the floor and pissing all over his head.
 That was much more fun.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 03:51:57 2000
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Hey all,

check out Obis Cygma's mp3s on www.mp3.com at:

http://www.mp3.com/obiscygma

Only for the head-strong!

There are about 13 tracks available there, spanning many years, and several 
genre's, so check it out. One of his latest tracks "re-Calculor 3.0", which 
will be featured on the upcoming N.E.W. 12", is unique in that no two 
measures repeat throughout this spastic and heady four-minute track. 
Definately worth a listen.


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Rica...my mom told you to keep your mouth shut about that....oh and she wants 
the video tape back, okay?

countin my moms hoe money
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 04:15:11 2000
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ah Sarah Michelle Gellar would be hot to see in person!  i love Buffy!  =)
*this week two days in a row they had Buffy on!*  woooo hoooo!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 04:47:20 2000
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Her co-star is much better though... 
I forgot her name... 

But I do remember from American Pie...

"One time at Band Camp..."

You know the rest... 

God I want to fuck her.

Love,
  Nick

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> ah Sarah Michelle Gellar would be hot to see in person!  i love Buffy!  =)
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In a message dated 2/24/00 6:55:26 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
te_one@yahoo.com writes:

>  Do I understand correctly that the promoters, venue owners, and possibly 
> others stood by and let
>  this happen? This is simply pathetic and only reinforces my opinion of the 
> vacuous nature of the
>  typical PLURry feel-good rave crap I see sound blithely espoused. When 
> confronted with all the
>  things we claim to stand against, this is the reaction? "We speak the way 
we 
> breathe."
>  

dont jump the gun there... most of us have heard 2nd hand accounts on what 
EXACTLY happened.      i've heard other things.... like Jordana was hit ONCE 
in the face, and was knocked out (i heard this from a reliable source).    i 
am assuming that the violence that took place was sudden, and abrupt - and 
when it came to the attention of the promoters/venue owners - they responded 
as quickly as they could.

now,
what REALLLLLLLLLY frustrates the shit out of me is all the mother fuckers 
that talked shit about Jordana's situation, and when confronted - responded 
with "these are just words, words don't hurt".. well, BULLSHIT!!!  an 
ignorant mindset COUPLED with hostile words about a person you don't even 
know! creates a hostile environment.. one of which can create violent acts 
such as this one.    This assault on Jordana was not only the fault of the 
person who carried it out - but more largely the fault of ever mutherfucker 
that has the mindset that she is a 'freak' or that what they say about HER 
isn't going to make a difference.

and honestly .... i dont blame her for probably giving up music.    if i had 
to deal with stupidity on a daily basis like she does - i probably would too! 
  in fact, knowing that people have to deal with it lessens my faith in how 
far we have really come.

in closing..
SOCIETY:     please GROW THE FUCK UP!

-Adam Jay

P.S. - please dont bring PLUR into this discussion... be fucking PROACTIVE 
and stop using childish acronyms.    the fact is THIS WORLD IS A FUCKED UP 
PLACE - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

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In a message dated 2/24/0 5:31:24 PM, jerry wrote:

<<Yahoo is not in a position where they can even be bought 
out by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.  Yahoo is the one buying 
others out>>

um, i think you mean "Yahoo IS in a position where they can
NOT EVEN be bought out by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp"...
your lack of grammatical verbose has not only rendered your 
claim of my lack of intellect null and void, but seems to have
knocked a few points off of any astuteness on your end.

but the fact that you used all encompassing statements such
as Yahoo can not be bought out and Yahoo is the one doing all
the buying, pretty much threw your arguement out the window
since who's to say that Yahoo may not be bought out in the
future?...or that there are other large internet companys that
are also doing all the buying...AOL being the best example.


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ok, let's clarify things here for pixie...

you originally wrote....

<<so why haven't you just been using that then, instead of 
supporting da og white man billy gates??>>

check my e-mail...

it reads "Steviet069@aol.com"

that means i use...AOL!!!!

and who owns AOL?

i'll give you a clue....not bill gates!...he owns microsoft!

that's right steve case own AOL!!!.....ooooooh!

i hate how i gotta break things down for the severly
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we all wonder the same about you, you pathetic self-absorbed loser>>

we?...pfft, 'me, myself, and i'?!...you're so full of yourself!
...kind of like last time when you tried speaking for the list
admin, chad also!...your pathetic, no wonder you've resorted
to name calling since straight out lieing has already failed
you!...but seriously did you think people on this list were stupid
enough to really believe any thing you had to say when you 
mentioned that a split lip is a common deformailty amongst 
asians!...it's obvious who the true self absorbed loser is in this 
case...

<<The fact remains that most of the problems are caused or at 
least fed by yourself, and your inability to change your attitude or 
even persue solutions feed them even more.  Momma musta raised 
you all sorts of wrong.>>

what does my mom have anything to do with your compulsive 
lieing, ego problem, and immature name calling to make up for
your insecurities?...i can't even begin to blame your mother
because some people are just natural born losers.

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:i hate how i gotta break things down for the severly
:inept ones....


lemme break things down for you, steve. you said "time to get a yahoo
account, hotmail's been fuckin up" <roughly>

which tells me

you've been using hotmail

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Yeah that would be great to have cure tickets I waited in line for two hours 
and they were sold out right when I got inside to get them.  It was insanity 
there was a line with like 1500 people in it at the tower on Clark and the 
vic was swamped with people only one person I know got tickets.  I was at the 
tower in Schaumburg and there were probably 500 people at least and only like 
the first 60 people got tickets.  The New Album is the trilogy for 
disintegration and pornography and it is awesome.

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In a message dated 2/24/00 7:26:43 PM Central Standard Time, 
blitz666@uswest.net writes:

<< Brooklyn Riot Squad >>


I don't think they exist. 

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a combination of fear, unacceptance, and good ol' fashioned moonshine is 
what it sounds like to me...

-marauder
>great person,i don't know why anyone would fucking do this...this is really
>upsetting to me.
>
>I hope whoever did this is Picked up by the police.
>
>best regards :(
>-winn./nujack
>
>
>>From: Brad Johnson <brad_p_johnson@email.com>
>>Reply-To: Brad Johnson <brad_p_johnson@email.com>
>>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org, pb-cle-raves@hyperreal.org,
>>nw-raves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org, scr@socal-raves.org,
>>txraves@onramp.net, dcraves@hyperreal.org, boston-raves@ravedata.org,
>>fl-raves@ravedata.org, se-raves@ravedata.org
>>Subject: [mw] Jordana (187) Brutally beaten in Ohio
>>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:32:54 -0500 (EST)
>>
>>Some of you may have already heard a little about this but in case you
>>didn't know I am passing this on and urge you to spread this widely to see
>>that the person(s) responsible for this are quickly brought to justice and
>>that justice in this case is really carried out. I have spoken briefly 
>>with
>>Jordana by telephone to confirm most of what took place.
>>
>>On the night of February 22, 2000 following a performance by Jordana (some
>>of you probably only know her as 1.8.7) at an event called Ephiphany at
>>club
>>known as the Robin Hood in Kent Ohio, Jordana was brutally assaulted while
>>leaving the club to go to her hotel. She was punched directly in the face,
>>with a force so hard that it knocked her to the ground and she savagely
>>beaten by an unknown man in front of several witnesses including club
>>staff,
>>and the promoter to the point where she blacked out.  When the man tried 
>>to
>>stomp on her the promoter and another guy chased him up the street where
>>they were then told to back off by a truckload of four or five guys who
>>claimed to have weapons. These guys were waiting for her near the parking
>>lot for her hotel and apperantly this guy who hit her did so prematurely
>>and
>>probably ruined whatever plan was in place to attack her near the hotel.
>>According to several people the person who attacked Jordana and the group
>>waiting in the truck  were all regular partygoers in the Drum and 
>>Bass/Rave
>>scene in Ohio. A person who wants to remain anonymous who knows one of the
>>group in the truck claims that the group had planned kill "him" and leave
>>"him" there in the street for everyone to see. This leads me to believe
>>that
>>the group's motive was not simply a random act of violence but a
>>premeditated hate crime not too different from what happened to Matthew
>>Sheppard.
>>
>>
>>Jordana had only blacked out for a minute but her nose and jaw were
>>fractured. This was only found out today when she went to her doctor
>>complaining of intense pain still in her face. The promoter did not take
>>her
>>to the hospital he did however take her to the City of Kent police
>>department to file a report. When the police checked the computer for the
>>name that was given to them by an anonymous partygoer they found a man
>>named
>>Matthew W. Gostlen who lived at 356 Spicer Street, Akron Ohio, 44310. This
>>guy had been in trouble with the law in the past. When Jordana asked the
>>police if they would arrest him she was told because this was at least a
>>misdemeanor assault the police officer told her they would not be 
>>arresting
>>him but would instead serve him a summons to appear in court and only if 
>>he
>>ignored the summons would a warrant for his arrest be issued. She told me
>>the victim's right's form she filled out and signedhad the arrest portion
>>crossed out with a "N/A" and summons written below it. Obviously this was
>>different from their normal police proceedure. Jordana who was in intense
>>pain and still bleeding did not argue with the officer about this but
>>instead accepted it has part of the justice process.
>>
>>Now to me this sounds really WRONG. If someone assaults someone (it was a
>>first degree misdemeanor assualt) then they are obviously a threat to the
>>community and if the police knew where to find this guy then why didn't
>>they
>>bother arresting him? Someone I know in Cleveland raised the issue that
>>Kent
>>is a small conservative town and Jordana is black and the fellow who
>>attacked her is white and had it been the other way around (a black guy 
>>who
>>attacked a white girl) the police most likely would have reacted alot
>>different. This has to be stressed that this is ONLY speculation on this
>>other witnesses part but I do find it strange. I urge you to call the 
>>Kent,
>>Ohio Police department at 330-673-7732 and *respectfully* express your
>>concern about the handling of case number 00-2825, an assualt on Jordana
>>LeSesne.
>>
>>When Jordana asked what else she could do the officer told her she could
>>file a civil suit against him. I asked Jordana if she planned to do this
>>and
>>she said she might but it will involve alot of traveling from her place in
>>Philadelphia to Kent to do and right now she was most concerned with the
>>criminal case. It would be hard because most of the witnesses ran off and
>>only the promoter and the other guy who chased the man up the street went
>>with her to the police. Other witnesses who had told her they'd go and 
>>file
>>a report never showed up and likely went home or to an afterparty.
>>
>>We did not talk long since she was still in great pain from the doctor
>>trying to reset her jawbone but she mentioned that she is cancelling most
>>of
>>the tour dates but she may still be playing in Washington DC on Saturday 
>>if
>>she feels up to it. She said it's doubtful because her spirit is broken 
>>and
>>she has had the last straw after what has been two years of escalating 
>>hate
>>emails, nasty postings about her on the internet and death threats left on
>>her voicemail. She said she is probably going to quit DJing because she no
>>longer feels safe or protected and the only thing that could have stopped
>>the attack that was planned for her was an armed bodyguard who traveled
>>with
>>her, something no one has the money for. She also said that it might be
>>time
>>for her to just leave music altogether and  she is considering that so 
>>that
>>she can get on with a "normal" life. Her doctor told her she should feel a
>>little better in a couple of days and she was prescribed pain killers.
>>
>>Lets all hope that when she fully recovers that she jumps right back in 
>>and
>>fights on. It would be a shame to lose such a great talent because of a
>>group of barbarians. I am really upset at this and the fact that the DnB
>>scene has come to this kind of hatred but at the same time I think we
>>should
>>all thank the promoter, Chris Graves, and the other guy who chased this
>>"strong man" down because they prevented a far worse attack which would
>>have
>>probably have killed Jordana.
>>
>>The last person who believes in plur...
>>brad
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sounds like www.strangeland.com to me... never fails to amaze me 
personally...
-marauder
>
>oh yeah? I saw someone's mom (i'm not saying whose) fuck 3 guys, a horse,
>and the family dog all at the same time online netcast last week.
>
>It was quite the spectacular "site".
>
>nothing short than amazing
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did somebody say... HOT KARL????

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Hmm, let's see here...

Marco Carola - first and foremost. 
Gaetano Parisio
Thomas Crome
James Ruskin
Ben Simms
Adam Beyer (again)
Cari Lekebusch (again)
Jeff Mills (LIVE, yeah right)
Joel Mull (again)
The Advent (again, even if it's only Cisko)
Rob Hood LIVE

Claude is always a treat.

DJ Sneak would be cool. 

Ed Rush, Andy C, Technical Itch... Chris Liberator

loved having Dave Angel and Stacey Pullen at Future Tek 1...

and so on...


 ---- you wrote: 
> i would like to see pretty much everyone lorie listed and then some...
> 
> lemme see 
> (i could go on for days...trust me)
> hawtin (again...dammit i wanna hear him this time...dont get me wrong
> drunken revelry was great...but I WANT SOME TEKKNO GAWDDAMIT)
> 
> mills
> marco corola (ken and lorie and everyone have sparked my interest)
> mull
> kenny larkin
> misstress barbara (march fourth baby..indy)
> sven vath 
> dumb type (oooooh those mp3s kick my fuckin ass)
> wagon christ (yummy.)
> aphex twin 
> squarepusher 
> kraftwerk
> unit
> AUTECHRE (mmmmmmm)
> todd terry (i can dream can't i?)
> buzz fuzz
> mark n (dammit i miss him every time he is around)
> roy davis jr (again and again and again)
> trevor lamont and samme (okay...they are here all the time. dont mean i
> dont want to see them again...=)...)
> prototype 909 (i know..i know...but i miss em)
> mark farina (another one of those people i dig that around but i cant get
> enough of)
> lil louis vega (cincy really soon...woohoo)
> dave clarke (mmmm)
> rush (mmm)
> ed rush
> optical
> esassin
> ufo
> SS
> derrick carter 
> derrick may
> tyoshi suzuki (i dont like goa trance but dammit this guy rocks my socks)
> carl craig
> james pennington (again...)
> feelgood (i love this man!)
> armand van helden (the only guy i would ever be a dj whore for.)
> kenny ken (without mc fearless)
> eye-d 
> rabbit in the moon (i havent seen them in years...gimme a break)
> adult
> perspects
> flooresesence and freakquincy (the right way to do breaks.)
> hyst (another good atl breaks dj)
> oakey (yes i like pussy ass trance)
> pvd (more p.a.t.)
> dan efex 
> johannes heil
> laurent ho
> ollie ho
> sean od (memphis represent)
> doormouse (HAWDKOR!)
> anonymous
> unibomber
> fishead
> dj pierre
> donald glaude
> matt bandy/shiva/adam jay tag or separate..all badassssss
> lego
> romanthony (mmm i love "the wanderer" still)
> larry breaks
> zach (freebass nola)
> jarrell (new orleans house...mmm)
> tony humphries
> hardkiss brothers (all of em together)
> chemical brothers (heard a liva pa tape of theres from england several
> years ago...schweeeeeeet)
> commander tom
> acid scout
> dj hell
> stacey pullen (mmmm konfused...)
> dave angel
> roland casper
> steve stoll (i know he just was in indy but i had to miss it =(
> 
> and of course DJ KEOKI cuz he ROCKS MY SOCKS CUZ HE CAN SNORT COKE OFF
> TURNTABLES SPIN SHITTY MIXES AND THEN PASS OUT ON THE TABLES
> 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Lauren Goller
> "Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."-Franz Kafka
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
>                 
> 
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and...

FUMIYA TINAKA
STEVE BICKNELL

AND RICHIE HAWTIN (again)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 12:34:07 2000
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Thomas Chrome
     &
Fumiya Tanaka






 ---- you wrote: 
> Hmm, let's see here...
> 
> Marco Carola - first and foremost. 
> Gaetano Parisio
> Thomas Crome
> James Ruskin
> Ben Simms
> Adam Beyer (again)
> Cari Lekebusch (again)
> Jeff Mills (LIVE, yeah right)
> Joel Mull (again)
> The Advent (again, even if it's only Cisko)
> Rob Hood LIVE
> 
> Claude is always a treat.
> 
> DJ Sneak would be cool. 
> 
> Ed Rush, Andy C, Technical Itch... Chris Liberator
> 
> loved having Dave Angel and Stacey Pullen at Future Tek 1...
> 
> and so on...
> 
> 
>  ---- you wrote: 
> > i would like to see pretty much everyone lorie listed and then some...
> > 
> > lemme see 
> > (i could go on for days...trust me)
> > hawtin (again...dammit i wanna hear him this time...dont get me wrong
> > drunken revelry was great...but I WANT SOME TEKKNO GAWDDAMIT)
> > 
> > mills
> > marco corola (ken and lorie and everyone have sparked my interest)
> > mull
> > kenny larkin
> > misstress barbara (march fourth baby..indy)
> > sven vath 
> > dumb type (oooooh those mp3s kick my fuckin ass)
> > wagon christ (yummy.)
> > aphex twin 
> > squarepusher 
> > kraftwerk
> > unit
> > AUTECHRE (mmmmmmm)
> > todd terry (i can dream can't i?)
> > buzz fuzz
> > mark n (dammit i miss him every time he is around)
> > roy davis jr (again and again and again)
> > trevor lamont and samme (okay...they are here all the time. dont mean i
> > dont want to see them again...=)...)
> > prototype 909 (i know..i know...but i miss em)
> > mark farina (another one of those people i dig that around but i cant get
> > enough of)
> > lil louis vega (cincy really soon...woohoo)
> > dave clarke (mmmm)
> > rush (mmm)
> > ed rush
> > optical
> > esassin
> > ufo
> > SS
> > derrick carter 
> > derrick may
> > tyoshi suzuki (i dont like goa trance but dammit this guy rocks my socks)
> > carl craig
> > james pennington (again...)
> > feelgood (i love this man!)
> > armand van helden (the only guy i would ever be a dj whore for.)
> > kenny ken (without mc fearless)
> > eye-d 
> > rabbit in the moon (i havent seen them in years...gimme a break)
> > adult
> > perspects
> > flooresesence and freakquincy (the right way to do breaks.)
> > hyst (another good atl breaks dj)
> > oakey (yes i like pussy ass trance)
> > pvd (more p.a.t.)
> > dan efex 
> > johannes heil
> > laurent ho
> > ollie ho
> > sean od (memphis represent)
> > doormouse (HAWDKOR!)
> > anonymous
> > unibomber
> > fishead
> > dj pierre
> > donald glaude
> > matt bandy/shiva/adam jay tag or separate..all badassssss
> > lego
> > romanthony (mmm i love "the wanderer" still)
> > larry breaks
> > zach (freebass nola)
> > jarrell (new orleans house...mmm)
> > tony humphries
> > hardkiss brothers (all of em together)
> > chemical brothers (heard a liva pa tape of theres from england several
> > years ago...schweeeeeeet)
> > commander tom
> > acid scout
> > dj hell
> > stacey pullen (mmmm konfused...)
> > dave angel
> > roland casper
> > steve stoll (i know he just was in indy but i had to miss it =(
> > 
> > and of course DJ KEOKI cuz he ROCKS MY SOCKS CUZ HE CAN SNORT COKE OFF
> > TURNTABLES SPIN SHITTY MIXES AND THEN PASS OUT ON THE TABLES
> > 
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Lauren Goller
> > "Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old."-Franz Kafka
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
> >                 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 13:46:00 2000
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One of my favorite things about Yahoo mail; next to every email address in the "From:" field -

 Block address.


 Though "Check All" / "Delete all checked mail" runs a close second.


 wondering why our new domain's mail server is misbehaving..



                                -t


hey neat i can register with ebay now! <uh-oh>

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> i *heart* *heart*.

dude heart sux ass
wtf!!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 15:57:30 2000
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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> we all wonder the same about you, you pathetic self-absorbed loser>>
>
> we?...pfft, 'me, myself, and i'?!...you're so full of yourself!

full of myself?  this all started because you're constantly either
pleading for pity or bragging your ass off, to a fucking *MAIL LIST* for
crissake.  Talk about being full of oneself contrasted with being a
loser...do the math fuck-hole: [full of oneself] + [loser] = [pathetic
self-absorbed loser]

> ...kind of like last time when you tried speaking for the list
> admin, chad also!

I don't have to speak for the list, they speak for themselves.  Anyone
who has ever defended you on this list has retracted it in one form or
another later on.  Nobody sees you as the rave-creator you claim to be.
Nobody sees you as the stud you seem to think you are.  I've read more
posts about people wanting to pee on you than I have in support for you.

And I don't recall ever speaking for chad, so whatever the hell you're
talking about, I have no idea.

> ...your pathetic, no wonder you've resorted
> to name calling since straight out lieing has already failed
> you!...but seriously did you think people on this list were stupid
> enough to really believe any thing you had to say when you
> mentioned that a split lip is a common deformailty amongst
> asians!...it's obvious who the true self absorbed loser is in this
> case...

okay, whatever you say.  But it still remains that you have no idea what
a hare-lip is, you haven't even tried to find out.  So until you quench
your own ignorance on something, you should refrain from calling someone
a liar about it.

> <<The fact remains that most of the problems are caused or at
> least fed by yourself, and your inability to change your attitude or
> even persue solutions feed them even more.  Momma musta raised
> you all sorts of wrong.>>
>
> what does my mom have anything to do with your compulsive
> lieing, ego problem, and immature name calling to make up for
> your insecurities?...i can't even begin to blame your mother
> because some people are just natural born losers.

reversal of a statement doesn't work that easily.  Just because I call
you egocentric doesn't make me an egocentric person and a liar as well.
I called you that because you seem to think that the world is out to
treat you unfairly.  See?  there's evidence for my statement....where's
yours?  Plus it was obvious that it is my opinion that you are all the
things I said, and that's no lie.  Get your shit straight before you
just start typing...you're just proving to all of us how much of an
asshole you are.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 16:10:31 2000
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hey gayness hit me back plz =)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 16:46:34 2000
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kinda quiet today...should i go out and grab some random people to get on
the mailing list so they can write to it and complain to everyone to get off
again?  everyone out of one liners?  no one in the mood to argue?

what list?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 16:48:26 2000
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whats a one liner?

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looks like a one liner could be over 10 lines once you add a signature and
the mailing list footer...eh, who knew? :)

-t

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>
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>- michael knight in Columbus

no sir i am very taken nowadays :P


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>kinda quiet today...should i go out and grab some random people to get on
>the mailing list so they can write to it and complain to everyone to get off
>again?  everyone out of one liners?  no one in the mood to argue?
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thank the maker for today's lack of one-liners. praise alah!


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Anyone know where I can find any MP3's of this German groovegod? 
Can't seem to find any.

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>thank the maker for today's lack of one-liners. praise alah!
oh no.. praise be given to the almighty vacuum for CREATING oneliners!

-karo
<who is now sadly aware that sig files and other unnecessary things destroy
the beauty of oneliners.. sniffle>

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In a message dated 2/25/00 5:36:46 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Digitlstalin@aol.com 
writes:

> Anyone know where I can find any MP3's of this German groovegod?

German GrooveGod????

I thought he was Chicago and living in LA????


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 17:51:58 2000
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"Ignatius J. Reilly" wrote:

> One of my favorite things about Yahoo mail; next to every email address in the "From:" field -
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>  Block address.
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>  Though "Check All" / "Delete all checked mail" runs a close second.
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>  wondering why our new domain's mail server is misbehaving..
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> hey neat i can register with ebay now! <uh-oh>
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>okay.
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>WHAT?
>

thats called a grumpy tad with a headache.... not proof reading.. :P

get rid of one of the negatives... you make the call I dont care which one. :)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 18:14:37 2000
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>okay.
>
>WHAT?
>

thats called a grumpy tad with a headache.... not proof reading.. :P

get rid of one of the negatives... you make the call I dont care which one. :)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 18:20:54 2000
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Maybe, but I'm pretty sure he's from Germany. First time I saw him was in 
Berlin many years ago, but I've seen him since quite a bit in NY and such.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 18:23:54 2000
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>>okay.
>>
>>WHAT?
>
>thats called a grumpy tad with a headache.... not proof reading.. :P
>
>get rid of one of the negatives... you make the call I dont care which
one. :)

it's all good.. although, given the option, i'm going to go with getting
rid of the don't ... leaving "i think you're making a pointless." now that
it's clear ;) ... so there stevie! or, um, atomly. or misha. or.. who the
fuck *was* that message to anyway?
ah well.. regardless, whoever you are.. tad thinks you're making a
pointless! so neener!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 18:32:42 2000
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You are correct sir.....

Unless there is another DJ Hyperactive he IS from Chicago and he currently 
resides in LA.


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In a message dated 2/25/00 5:36:46 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Digitlstalin@aol.com
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 > Anyone know where I can find any MP3's of this German groovegod?

German GrooveGod????

I thought he was Chicago and living in LA????


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:I thought he was Chicago 

dayum

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(what list?)
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There's two.  One goes by Hyperactive and the other goes by DJ
Hyperactive.


On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Trevor Lamont wrote:

> You are correct sir.....
> 
> Unless there is another DJ Hyperactive he IS from Chicago and he currently 
> resides in LA.
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: HouseBabylon@aol.com
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> To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [mw] Re: Hyperactive???
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:44:47 EST
> 
> In a message dated 2/25/00 5:36:46 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Digitlstalin@aol.com
> writes:
> 
>  > Anyone know where I can find any MP3's of this German groovegod?
> 
> German GrooveGod????
> 
> I thought he was Chicago and living in LA????
> 
> 
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Caught his set at lift... Wow.  I've heard him before and never really been
moved to dance.. I danced through his entire set :)  maybe I've just never
heard him at a club w/acess to beer before? maybe it was 4 coronas, but I
dont think so.

Electra is 1000x better venue than DV8.


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He's originally from Chicago and now lives in L.A.  I am very impressed by 
him and we are trying to book him in Detroit for the future.

Ed


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>
>Maybe, but I'm pretty sure he's from Germany. First time I saw him was in
>Berlin many years ago, but I've seen him since quite a bit in NY and such.
>
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this has got to be the most fucked up email i've read in a long time.

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From: DRuMBoi1@aol.com
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Subject: [PKU] KANDIEKIDZ tell no talez............

From: DRuMBoi1@aol.com

one day in the fine city of detroit a few freinds were walkin down the 
street....when all of a sudden *whAMo*.here comes the UN-kandie,UN-plur 
patrol.........."what the fukk are you kandiekidz doin walkin around this 
late at night in MY city"?"Oh,sir....were tryin to find the party"."what 
party"?"the one FATT BASTARD is spinnin at"......"oh,you mean the rave 
party"."why,yes we do sir"...."well,lemme see if i can help you out,you go 
three blocks this way and turn left and go up another four blocks and turn 
right"....now,we all know that these ruffians arent tellin the truth,so one 
kandiekid getts a little enraged...we'll just call her Loo-Loo for 
short(bwahahah)."but sir,we know yer not tellin us the truth so you can fukk 
right off"...."oh?I can fukk off huh"?"well,i think you kandiekidz are gonna 
EAT THIS">and all of a sudden he pulls a tech-9 automatic and blows poor lil 
Loo-Loo out of her shorts.all the other kandiekidz,feeling a little 
inadiquite,run for their lives and a volley of gunshots are 
heard."OOOOO....Uhhhhhhhhh......OH MY GOD"theres another down an one to go. 
as soon as the bullet hits the only standing kandikid,itz all 
over."Loo-Loo,im sorry i couldnt help you.....im 
So-R-Ryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"and then the death rattle of the last 
kandiekid.this is a sad little story but we all know that kandiekidz are too 
innocent for their own good....so next time you hang around a kandiekid,make 
sure he/she doesnt have a little kandi-chip on their shoulders......BROUGHT 
TO YOU BY THE SOCIETY TO PRESERVE KANDIEKID KULTURE.......

fictitious account by...Aaron and Gemini!!!!!and if you kandiekidz cant find 
humor in thsi,please DO NOT send me mail bitchin about this story.after 
all,it IS fictitous.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 19:49:32 2000
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hahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahahaha

Finally someone has the right idea ;p

*ducks*

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 19:56:04 2000
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HEY!!!

There's nothing funny about bad grammer, spelling, and
punctuation!

--Will

--- doris <dpayer@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> this has got to be the most fucked up email i've
> read in a long time.
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:22:55 EST
> From: DRuMBoi1@aol.com
> To: partykids@onelist.com
> Subject: [PKU] KANDIEKIDZ tell no talez............
> 
> From: DRuMBoi1@aol.com
> 
> one day in the fine city of detroit a few freinds
> were walkin down the 
> street....when all of a sudden *whAMo*.here comes
> the UN-kandie,UN-plur 
> patrol.........."what the fukk are you kandiekidz
> doin walkin around this 
> late at night in MY city"?"Oh,sir....were tryin to
> find the party"."what 
> party"?"the one FATT BASTARD is spinnin
> at"......"oh,you mean the rave 
> party"."why,yes we do sir"...."well,lemme see if i
> can help you out,you go 
> three blocks this way and turn left and go up
> another four blocks and turn 
> right"....now,we all know that these ruffians arent
> tellin the truth,so one 
> kandiekid getts a little enraged...we'll just call
> her Loo-Loo for 
> short(bwahahah)."but sir,we know yer not tellin us
> the truth so you can fukk 
> right off"...."oh?I can fukk off huh"?"well,i think
> you kandiekidz are gonna 
> EAT THIS">and all of a sudden he pulls a tech-9
> automatic and blows poor lil 
> Loo-Loo out of her shorts.all the other
> kandiekidz,feeling a little 
> inadiquite,run for their lives and a volley of
> gunshots are 
> heard."OOOOO....Uhhhhhhhhh......OH MY GOD"theres
> another down an one to go. 
> as soon as the bullet hits the only standing
> kandikid,itz all 
> over."Loo-Loo,im sorry i couldnt help you.....im 
> So-R-Ryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"and then the death rattle
> of the last 
> kandiekid.this is a sad little story but we all know
> that kandiekidz are too 
> innocent for their own good....so next time you hang
> around a kandiekid,make 
> sure he/she doesnt have a little kandi-chip on their
> shoulders......BROUGHT 
> TO YOU BY THE SOCIETY TO PRESERVE KANDIEKID
> KULTURE.......
> 
> fictitious account by...Aaron and Gemini!!!!!and if
> you kandiekidz cant find 
> humor in thsi,please DO NOT send me mail bitchin
> about this story.after 
> all,it IS fictitous.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
> 
> 
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If you are bored and you want to come to Central Illinois, here's THE
party to be at. Yo.

Matt


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Subject: [UC-RAVES] 'Czech Yo'Self'!!!Tonight!!!


Address: 814 W. Clark St.

To everyone who plans on coming out tonight, thank-you in advance.

This party starts at 7:30pm!  Please show up early-

Line-Up to entertain and maintain the party:

8pm: Mark Nagle- Deep House
9pm: Matt Hellige- Atmospheric Deep Techno
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 21:10:36 2000
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What the hell was that?

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You should all be so proud of Doris.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 04:08:02 -0500
From: Sally <sally@net-data.com>
To: partykids@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [PKU] 02.24.00 : Derek Plaslaiko (Emerald Nights)

From: "Sally" <sally@net-data.com>

Amazing night--although me and many of my friends were extremely
dissapointed about the cancellation of 'the works'--we decided that we could
grace Emerald Nights with our presence....(lol, you know i'm playin Dusty
Poo)...

But anyway--to all you lame asses that stayed home, or went somewhere
else--you missed out.....Derek Plaslaiko was AMAZING, kept every one smiling
and moving--he spoiled us with lots of house, and even played a straight up
disco track!  we even had to clear off the top level so that we could
dance....everyone was friendly--i strongly suggest going every week--no
excuses!! Anyway, the only valid excuse would have been missing out on 'the
works', but its on Wednesdays now.....oh and doris (yes....*THE* queen of
rave) got naked and danced on tables---she promised to do it again next
week, so everyone be sure and make it out--

word to your mother

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[>What the hell was that?

.... maybe something trying to force its way into our world....


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right. i did the unthinkable and resubbed. 

anyway, i just got some new cd's, so if you are up for some
semi-upfront 2 step choons mixed by the award-winning dj ez
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http://www.atomly.com/jumper.jpg

Reason enough not to jump out of the 15th story window.

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Pretty smurfy...

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> HEY!!!
> 
> There's nothing funny about bad grammer, spelling, and
> punctuation!
> 
> --Will
> 

yeah there is when you spell grammar like that after commenting on someone
else's shit.

put the crackpipe down.

this is not a grammar/spellcheck list. please advise.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 21:44:00 2000
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that's alyson hanigan.  her character "willow" is turning lesbo!!


>Her co-star is much better though...
>I forgot her name...
>
>But I do remember from American Pie...
>
>"One time at Band Camp..."
>
>You know the rest...
>
>God I want to fuck her.
>
>Love,
>   Nick
>
>On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 CLubKidMN@aol.com wrote:
>
> > ah Sarah Michelle Gellar would be hot to see in person!  i love Buffy!  =)
> > *this week two days in a row they had Buffy on!*  woooo hoooo!
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i WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree. correct grammar, spelling and punctuation are 
ESSENTIAL to conveying effectively one's ideas. also, bad grmmr and spelling 
is for gayrods.
thank you.
-mw.raves spelling bee champ-
-val

>
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>punctuation!
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i *heart* lauryn
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 21:48:30 2000
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>-mw.raves spelling bee champ-
>-val

NOT!

we never even had the spelling bee... and if we did, i would've won it.

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I'll hold the spelling bee. Since my typing the word list would result in you 
all already knowing the answers, you just have to read my mind. OK, begin!


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>>i *heart* *heart*.
>
>dude heart sux ass
>wtf!!

totally.

it's ALL about fleetwood mac.

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>HEY!!!
>
>There's nothing funny about bad grammer, spelling, and
>punctuation!

that's "grammAr", billy boy!  :P

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man, i would so kick ass in mw-raves spelling bie.

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    I've seen him several times in Virginia.  He definatly packs the house 
and gets everyone moving.  I've never really heard anything of his that I 
didn't like.

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YES!!

THE BLUE PEOPLE OF EASTERN KENTUCKY!!

hahaha gawd... /me wipes tear from eye

redneck reprazent!

pixie



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>http://www.atomly.com/jumper.jpg
>
>Reason enough not to jump out of the 15th story window.


Just out of curiousity did you get that off of sexzilla.com/~bizarre?

Very interesting page if you can get a crack to it.

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>>dude heart sux ass
>>wtf!!
>
>totally.
>
>it's ALL about fleetwood mac.

*gasp*  weak! not to disparage fleetwood mac, but "never" kicked much ass.
the people from heart looked like the "barbie and the rockers" line of
barbies.. all with big hair.. a blonde and a brunette.. plus "barbie and
the rockers" ken was one of the first kens to have *real* hair as opposed
to painted plastic.

thus, heart was entirely cool and my sister and i knew all the words to
never and danced in front of the tv.

um, yeah.

karolyn



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Feb 25 22:52:21 2000
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Barracuda?
Magic Man?

What the hell are you talking about?

I *HEART* HEART

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, atomly wrote:

> You should all be so proud of Doris.


*curtsies*


and not to forget the follow-ups, please:

> I was there....doris was Butt Nekey on the balcony on top of a table
> twirling 
> her shirt over her head....definetly a night that many of you will
> regret 
> missing.

> and Katie was awesome for moving the tables upstairs so we could 
> dance (except for doris's table)

> and, i will have the video of doris from last night, naked and
> prancing around on top of a little table, on the internet in streaming
> real media within a couple of hours... stay tuned.


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> Subject: Fw: The Gas Out - Protest
>
>
> > > Subject: gas out/don't buy gas 4/7 to 4/9
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Last year on April 30, 1999, a gas out was staged across Canada
and
> > >> the
> > >> > > U.S.
> > >> > > to bring the price of gas down, and it worked. It's time to do
> > >> > > something
> > >> > > about it again.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Only this time lets make it for three days instead of just one.
The
> > >> > > so-called oil cartel
> > >> > > decided to slow production to drive up gasoline prices. Lets see
> how
> > >>
> > >> > > many
> > >> > > Canadian-American people we can get to ban together for a three
day
> > >> > > period
> > >> > > in April, NOT TO BUY ANY GASOLINE, during those three days.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > LETS HAVE A GAS OUT. Do not buy any gasoline from APRIL 7, 2000,
> > >> > > THROUGH
> > >> > > APRIL 9, 2000. Buy what you need before the dates listed above,
or
> > >> > > after,
> > >> > > but try not to buy any during the GAS OUT.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If you want to help, just send this to everyone you know and ask
> > >> them
> > >> > > to do
> > >> > > the same.
> > >> > > We brought the prices down once before, and we can do it again.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Even if you receive this 100 times keep passing it around, this
way
> > >> > > you know
> > >> > > everyone is
> > >> > > being informed and no one will forget!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>


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And each time you forward it, make sure that you wrap the last word from
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Kenya DuBois wrote:

> 
> > Subject: Fw: The Gas Out - Protest
> >
> >
> > > > Subject: gas out/don't buy gas 4/7 to 4/9
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Last year on April 30, 1999, a gas out was staged across Canada
> and
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > U.S.
> > > >> > > to bring the price of gas down, and it worked. It's time to do
> > > >> > > something
> > > >> > > about it again.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Only this time lets make it for three days instead of just one.
> The
> > > >> > > so-called oil cartel
> > > >> > > decided to slow production to drive up gasoline prices. Lets see
> > how
> > > >>
> > > >> > > many
> > > >> > > Canadian-American people we can get to ban together for a three
> day
> > > >> > > period
> > > >> > > in April, NOT TO BUY ANY GASOLINE, during those three days.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > LETS HAVE A GAS OUT. Do not buy any gasoline from APRIL 7, 2000,
> > > >> > > THROUGH
> > > >> > > APRIL 9, 2000. Buy what you need before the dates listed above,
> or
> > > >> > > after,
> > > >> > > but try not to buy any during the GAS OUT.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > If you want to help, just send this to everyone you know and ask
> > > >> them
> > > >> > > to do
> > > >> > > the same.
> > > >> > > We brought the prices down once before, and we can do it again.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Even if you receive this 100 times keep passing it around, this
> way
> > > >> > > you know
> > > >> > > everyone is
> > > >> > > being informed and no one will forget!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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nick@hyperreal.org writes:

> Her co-star is much better though... 
>  I forgot her name... 

*Willow( Alyson  Hannigan)  yeah she's cute but i still like Buffy  =)

*hil

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please stop emailing me. 

i did not get naked.


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OOH barracuda.

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just outta curiousity, who on the list is makin their way out to chicago for 
LOTD3??? And if so, is there any kind of semi-organized netmeet goin on??? 
just curious, i'm lame. :) hehehehe

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In a message dated 2/25/0 5:59:45 AM, you wrote:

<<lemme break things down for you, steve. you said "time to get a yahoo

account, hotmail's been fuckin up" <roughly>


which tells me


you've been using hotmail


sucker>>

hoy ve, you are truly clueless sometimes pixie...

i was not the one who made the initial post stating
that i had problems with hotmail...i was however the
one who suggested yahoo as an alternative...but the 
biggest clue should've been my e-mail addy which
clearly reads 'steviet069@aol.com'...why would i use
hotmail when i already have an aol account?

i can't believe i had to explain this twice to you already,
pixie!...time to chill on the drugs a bit girl....


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In a message dated 2/25/0 3:57:46 PM, gsparker wrote:

<<do the math fuck-hole: [full of oneself] + [loser] = [pathetic
self-absorbed loser]>>

actually, full of oneself + loser = full of oneself + loser  OR
loser + full of oneself, HOWEVER full of oneself + loser DOES
NOT always = pathetic self absorbed loser...common freshman
high school logic, another subject you obviously failed at

<< Anyone who has ever defended you on this list has retracted 
it in one form or another later on.  Nobody sees you as the rave-
creator you claim to be. Nobody sees you as the stud you seem to 
think you are.  I've read more posts about people wanting to pee 
on you than I have in support for you.>>

wrong, the only person who posted that he regretted defending
me at one point was Jerry (but this was only after being influenced
by one of your highly falsified posts which you are now infamous
for)...again, you are attempting to speak for the entire list attesting
to your super inflated ego problem....I never claimed to be the rave
creator...however, this is a perfect example of how you have to
resort to out right lies to cover for your insecurities..."nobody
sees you as the stud as you see you are"...Another example of
you trying to speak for the entire list and your over inflated
ego...even giving yourself godlike qualities as to tell exactly
what i am thinking..."i've read more posts about people wanting 
to pee on you"...Another lie, there has never been a post about
any one wanting to pee on me, however i did joke that a rave 
girl once asked jon gotti if she could see his liquid and he peed
on her...however seeing your flaws with logic and your overly
evident colossaly inflated ego i can see how some one with so
many mental problems can easily misconscrue this...alas, there
are paid professionals that can assist you with these problems
...just refrain in spreading your disease to the rest of the list,
but i'm sure any listee in the right frame of my mind would
clearly avoid being anything like some one who calls himself
"the great gregori"...puhleeeease!!!...the only thing great about
you is your ego.

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i sgned off this damn list a few weeks ago b4 i went on vacation. and ya know 
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>i sgned off this damn list a few weeks ago b4 i went on vacation. and ya
know
>what you were talking shit then and your still talking it. shut up

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 26 06:02:59 2000
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> Her co-star is much better though...
> I forgot her name...

Alyson Hannigan in real life, Willow in the show.

I am a Buffy freak, I've got somewhere around 50 or 60 episodes on tape.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 26 06:11:27 2000
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My Life w/ the Thrill Kill Kult
Psychic TV
Throbbing Gristle
Skinny Puppy
David Bowie
Bauhaus (Anybody else see any of their '98 Resurrection tour shows?)
Devo
Talking Heads
Revolting Cocks
Hahaha, and even Burzum if Varg goes back to music after his jail time
is up (And if they'd come to America of course)
Plus about a million other bands...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 26 07:26:40 2000
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--- Nick Christianson <panam@mail.execpc.com> wrote:
> My Life w/ the Thrill Kill Kult
> Psychic TV
> Throbbing Gristle
> Skinny Puppy
> David Bowie
> Bauhaus (Anybody else see any of their '98
> Resurrection tour shows?)
> Devo
> Talking Heads
> Revolting Cocks
> Hahaha, and even Burzum if Varg goes back to music
> after his jail time
> is up (And if they'd come to America of course)
> Plus about a million other bands...


Nick... I just gotta say.. You have EXCELLENT taste in
music!  I LOVE Bauhaus... Skinny Puppy... Thrill
Kill... Revolting Cocks... ! ! 
   -Opiey

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 Not superiority.."
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He's from hawaii. He used to live in Chicago. And now he lives in L.A. if you 
want his booking info Email me Privately...Paul J.......

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Saturday February 26th, 2000
Sphere & Baseheads
Junglodium
10pm - 7am
216.556.2982 - 216.556.5081

   Ok, sorry for the delay.. Here are the directions to Junglodium!! Taking
place in Cleveland, Feb. 26th... We highly suggest arriving early, the
response has been tremendous!

   Sphere and Baseheads are hooking you up with a great DnB lineup and
great weather (because we've got the hookup ;)

   Junglodium will be taking place at the Cotton Club, and we have opened
up 5000 extra sq ft of virgin space including an extra stairwell...And we
have professional decoraters in to jazz up the place!

from points SOUTH::
71N or 77N to 480E to the Broadway exit... then follow the common direx...

WEST (Detroit, Chicago)::
90E to 77S to 480E to the Broadway exit, then follow common direx..

WEST (Indiana, etc.)::
70E to 71N to 480E to the Broadway exit, then follow the common direx...

EAST (The Burgh/Y-town)::
76W to 80W (Ohio Turnpike) to 77N to 480E get off at the Broadway exit,
then follow the common direx...

NORTHEAST (Toronto, Buffalo, etc.)::
90W to 77S to 480E to the Broadway ext, then follow the common direx...

COMMON DIREX::
-Once you get off on the Broadway exit, follow the exit to the light, then
make RIGHT onto Broadway.
-Go to the first light, make RIGHT (E.131st).
-Follow E.131st for 1.7 miles until you cross over the railroad tracks.
-Make a RIGHT at the flashing lights, (Marston Rd.)
-Parking for the Cotton Club is on the RIGHT.

If you are coming from an area not listed, go to www.mapblast.com,
Starting point: wherever you're at
Ending point: Cotton Club, 13199 Miles Rd., Cleveland, Ohio.


 *Unfortunately, we regret to inform you that Morgan will not be performing
with Krust and Dynamite MC. She has a sore throat and has lost her voice.

Doors open at 9:30, show starts at 10.

Main

10-11 Kevin Cunningham with MC Jamalski
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2-4 Krust & Dynamite MC
4-5:30 UFO! with MC Jamalski
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10-11 LSDiaz
11-12 DJ Release
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4-5 Bagel with MC Alaska
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, doris wrote:
> please stop emailing me. 
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> i did not get naked.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 26 09:32:52 2000
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I *heart* David Bowie. Heart makes me barf. But David Bowie.....ahhh..am I 
the only one who's seen Labriynth 70,000 times? Yowza. I'm still trying to 
learn how to hand juggle those lucite crystal ball things. One day I'll be 
as cool as David Bowie...maybe.


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>My Life w/ the Thrill Kill Kult
>Psychic TV
>Throbbing Gristle
>Skinny Puppy
>David Bowie
>Bauhaus (Anybody else see any of their '98 Resurrection tour shows?)
>Devo
>Talking Heads
>Revolting Cocks
>Hahaha, and even Burzum if Varg goes back to music after his jail time
>is up (And if they'd come to America of course)
>Plus about a million other bands...
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Ok, I've had my fix for now, but everytime I realize that I'm just deleting
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okay...someone who is a really good source told me that the afterhours
for live on the decks is cancelled. (err the official one listed on the
flyer anyway.) there might be some other ones..but the main one is no
longer. 

grrrOar.
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hey stevie, does this sound familiar:

"...my influence in the midwest can still be seen in the fashion,
dance, even lyrical verbose of the kids today... do you think i
was kidding when i said 'i am one of the scenes creators'..."

you wanna retract the statement below?

    -bill

----- Original Message -----
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>
> wrong, the only person who posted that he regretted defending
> me at one point was Jerry (but this was only after being influenced
> by one of your highly falsified posts which you are now infamous
> for)...again, you are attempting to speak for the entire list attesting
> to your super inflated ego problem....I never claimed to be the rave
> creator...however, this is a perfect example of how you have to
> resort to out right lies to cover for your insecurities


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In a message dated 2/26/0 4:07:54 PM, bill wrote:

<<"...my influence in the midwest can still be seen in the fashion,

dance, even lyrical verbose of the kids today... do you think i

was kidding when i said 'i am one of the scenes creators'..."


you wanna retract the statement below?>>

it is true, i am ONE OF the scene's creators in Ohio, since i
was involved with several of the  earliest parties in Ohio 
circa 1990-1995 and it is true my influence in the midwest 
scene can still be seen in the fashion and lyrical verbose of 
the midwest kids today (it's just most of them don't know 
where it all truly came from since there is like a 5 year 
generation gap now).

however, i never claimed to be THE ONE and ONLY creator for
the rave scene...there are multiple creators throughout the
nation...even frankie bones was not the first, since he was 
originally influenced by ron d. core's parties in LA before he
started the STORM raves...and ron d. core, i'm sure was influenced
by others as well...altho, i do like the fact that his record 
store has a porn section to it ;) (insider joke)...

i stand correct still.

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you are so gay.  die.

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In a message dated 2/26/0 5:44:31 PM, michael wrote:

<<you are so gay.  die.>>

michael sharing the same attitude as the one who attacked
jordana lesesne aka 187...another one of the scene's creators
that has to put up with constant bullshit from ignorant newbie
boobies...

hate is the quickest insurance for this scene's self destruction.

if you choose hate, especially those that have previously done 
much for the scene, then you are an enemy of the scene.


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you are an enemy of good taste.  piss off.

At 12:53 PM 2/26/00 -0500, you wrote:

>In a message dated 2/26/0 5:44:31 PM, michael wrote:
>
><<you are so gay.  die.>>
>
>michael sharing the same attitude as the one who attacked
>jordana lesesne aka 187...another one of the scene's creators
>that has to put up with constant bullshit from ignorant newbie
>boobies...
>
>hate is the quickest insurance for this scene's self destruction.
>
>if you choose hate, especially those that have previously done
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IT'S NOT A CRACK PIPE!!!

I'M A DAMNED BLUE COLLAR TWEAKER!!!!!!!!

ARRGH!

Well that was embarrassing.

--Will

--- "lauryn g." <lgoller@indiana.edu> wrote:
> 
> > HEY!!!
> > 
> > There's nothing funny about bad grammer, spelling,
> and
> > punctuation!
> > 
> > --Will
> > 
> 
> yeah there is when you spell grammar like that after
> commenting on someone
> else's shit.
> 
> put the crackpipe down.
> 
> this is not a grammar/spellcheck list. please
> advise.
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I prefer Willy Boy, thanks.

--Willy Boy

--- jon dica! <dica666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >HEY!!!
> >
> >There's nothing funny about bad grammer, spelling,
> and
> >punctuation!
> 
> that's "grammAr", billy boy!  :P


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  return 0;
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Feb 26 19:13:31 2000
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stevie you suck.. weve heard so many times how you helped form our scene.. 
thanks man.. appreciate it.. now SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!  

youve told this tory so many times.. its doesnt make you cooler. you cancell 
that with your assholeizm.

go tell some newbie girls and put somethign in there drink... theres your fan 
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dont have all the info for this party yet but, my friend is throwing it so  
its gonna be awesome.. call the info line


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any1 have there email addy?

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Entice Productions brings you...

                          UNDERGROUND FREQUENCY
                      April 8, 2000     Lexington, KY
 
Thee-O ..... (trance)
Biohazard / Los Angeles, CA

Charles Cromer ..... (jungle)
Entice / Lexington, KY

Spahn ..... (jungle)
Subsonik, Transistor / Cincinnati, OH

4-Deck Techno Duel
Adam Jay
SUBterror, Azure Records / Indianapolis, IN
Matt Bandy
SUBterror, Aliensquad / Lexington, KY
Shiva
SUBterror, The Goddess Complex / Indianapolis, IN

4-Deck House Duel
Trevor Lamont
Aliensquad / Lexington, KY
Samm-e
Teamsters, Fresh / Nashville, TN

Happycore Tag Team
Michael Knight
Kickin' Beats / Columbus, OH
Spree
Kickin' Beats / Minneapolis, MN



...100% legal and secure venue...
...concert sound, intelligent lighting and laser show
by Project 7...
...tickets are $12 at the door w/a canned food item,
$15 w/out, sorry no guest list...
...all canned goods to benefit God's Pantry in
Lexington, KY... 
...capacity limited to 600 people so please arrive
early...
...absolutely no alcohol, drugs, markers, drama or
other bullshit, R.O.A.R. in full effect...
...web...http://www.entice.nu/...
...info line...606.288.4599...
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dylan dorrell wrote:
> 
> what the fuck is goin on memorial day weekend...there had BETTER be a
> campout of some sort...come on people...WHATS GOIN ON?!?!?!?!
> 
> dylan "gettin anxious about the summer" dorrell



I believe there's a three day Detroit Techno party in Detroit that
weekend.  I've been getting bits and pieces of the line-up from
different sources, but sounds pretty damn amazing so far.

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Hey...I'm in Colorado on mtn-raves, and just found out Jordana (aka 187) was 
attacked at a show in Kent, Ohio...

Anybody have any news or posts??

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allright!  
we feel like we've let the suspense mount long enough, so we're now ready
to take you out of your misery and FINALLY do the thing you've been
waiting for for so long:  announce the lineup for STATE:AWAKE vol. 7!!!!

allright calm down.  get a hold of yourself and read on.

on friday, march 10, state:awake in association with michigan league
programming proudly brings you:

*KID ENTROPY (vs. KEVIN CUNNINGHAM?)   [jungle - chicago, il]
*ZUPERMAN vs. RONIN   [jungle - detroit/ann arbor, mi]
*DJ SLY   [jungle (you seeing a trend here?) - ann arbor, mi]
*VIPAT   [jungle - ann arbor, mi]

price: one smile and two shaking buttcheeks.  and we've got free water,
       punch, and snacks to boot.

location: the michigan league underground, 911 north university, ann arbor

duration: 9pm-1am  (so get there early!)

maps, directions, and general info can be found at 
http://state.awake.freeservers.com

questions/comments/greeting cards always welcome at state.awake@umich.edu.


please keep in mind that this event is held on university property, so
don't plan to act like a dumbass, and leave any substances that a 
university wouldn't approve of at home.  do come and shake dat ass and
support the sorely underrepresented detroit junglist massif.


and, if you don't feel like going home or to detroit afterwards, there
will be a free afterparty (house party style) featuring more of ann
arbor's finest.


sleep is for the weak.
state:awake.



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In a message dated 2/26/0 7:38:32 PM, trancedanz wrote:

<<any1 have there email addy?>>

yeah, i do...but i sure as hell am not givin it to you...i just did 
shots w/ victor @ red zone last week actually...plus i'm sure
he would want nothing to do with you when you were promoting
putting drugs in girls drinks on mw-raves...

are we seeing how it works yet kiddies?...you talk shit bout the
old skoolahs you get shut out.

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Saturday, May 20th, 2000 - Minneapolis, MN

Madness Industries - 651-649-4MAD

Gives you:

  P.A.N.D.E.M.O.N.I.U.M

>>>  An ALL Hardcore & Jungle event!  <<<

with...

CASPER - - - - - 3-4am
Chicago, IL
Special Oldschool Happy Hardcore Set
You've known him as a Junglist and a 2-stepper,
but did you know that he got his start with
Happy Hardcore? He'll be dusting off his vintage
vinyl to bring us an EXCLUSIVE breakbeat oldschool
Happy Hardcore treat!

Fishead - - - - - 12-1am
Winnipeg, CN
Hardcore
After traveling North America, tearing up dancefloors
with his insane style, DJ Fishead is here to bash your
head in! If you like Hardcore, you're gonna love this...

Venetian Snares - - - - - 9-10pm
Winnipeg, CN
Hardcore LIVE PA
After being recomended to us as a SICK Live HARDCORE PA
we decided to bring Venetian Snares in from the frozen
North. Be sure to get there early so you wont have to
hear people talk about the crazy set you missed.

Madkid - - - - - 2-3am
Minneapolis, MN
Special Jungle Anthems Set
Madkid will be searching through his crate of gems to
bring you the most requested Jungle and Drum&Bass tracks
from the past 6 years. Don't forget your lighter for this
anthem filled set. Who wants the rewind?!

Spree - - - - - 1-2am
Minneapolis, MN
Happy Hardcore
After spreading the happy vibe from coast to coast, Spree
brings the Happy Hardcore home for Minneapolis crew. Blow
your whistles if you want to hear the Neverending Story!

Arjay Khetamine - - - - - 4-5am
Minneapolis, MN
Hardcore
Arjay >will< kill you...

Tilzs - - - - - 11-12am
Minneapolis, MN
Freeform/Trancecore
We're very lucky to have one of the top Freeform/Trancecore
DJ's in North America, right in our backyard. Thousands of
screaming kids can't be wrong.

Hover Project - - - - - 10-11pm
Minneapolis, MN
Oldschool UK Hardcore LIVE PAIf you were at Frostbite, you know what to=20
expect. Be sure
not to forget your whistles and white gloves for this one.
MC ADB from the U.K. will be lending his vocal talent to these
guys for a performance that can't be missed!

MC ADB
United Kingdom
A veteran to the Hardcore scene, both in the UK and North
America. This guy has been a part of it all from the begining.
He'll be on the mic from dusk till dawn and all night long.
>From the mouth of ADB, Peace, Love, Unity.... Rrrrrrrrespect!

$10  PRESALE TICKETS ONLY!

Tickets available May 1st - May 20th

For Ticket and other Information
651-649-4MAD - http://www.madnessindustries.com
(651-649-4623)

=E2=80=98ardcore, you know the score. If Happy Hardcore/Hardcore/Jungle
isn=E2=80=99t your thing, then don=E2=80=99t come. There _will_ be plenty of=
 free
giveaways (mixtapes, whistles, etc!). Our venue is limited to 400
capacity, and we will not over crowd it, so please
buy your tickets early.

No drugs, no thugs, no alcohol.
R.O.A.R. "In Effect".

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In a message dated 2/26/2000 6:58:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< .i just did 
 shots w/ victor @ red zone last week actually >>

geez.....does name dropping really make you feel cool or something stevie?? 
couldn't you have just said that even tho you have his number, you don't feel 
like giving it out. But I'm sure Victor will be real happy with you if you're 
pissy attitude costs him some money.

shawne

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Saturday, May 20th, 2000 - Minneapolis, MN

Madness Industries - 651-649-4MAD
gives you

****>>>  P.A.N.D.E.M.O.N.I.U.M

>>>  An ALL Hardcore & Jungle event!  <<<

with...

CASPER - - - - - 3-4am
Chicago, IL
Special Oldschool Happy Hardcore Set
You've known him as a Junglist and a 2-stepper,
but did you know that he got his start with
Happy Hardcore? He'll be dusting off his vintage
vinyl to bring us an EXCLUSIVE breakbeat oldschool
Happy Hardcore treat!

Fishead - - - - - 12-1am
Winnipeg, CN
Hardcore
After traveling North America, tearing up dancefloors
with his insane style, DJ Fishead is here to bash your
head in! If you like Hardcore, you're gonna love this...

Venetian Snares - - - - - 9-10pm
Winnipeg, CN
Hardcore LIVE PA
After being recomended to us as a SICK Live HARDCORE PA
we decided to bring Venetian Snares in from the frozen
North. Be sure to get there early so you wont have to
hear people talk about the crazy set you missed.

Madkid - - - - - 2-3am
Minneapolis, MN
Special Jungle Anthems Set
Madkid will be searching through his crate of gems to
bring you the most requested Jungle and Drum&Bass tracks
from the past 6 years. Don't forget your lighter for this
anthem filled set. Who wants the rewind?!

Spree - - - - - 1-2am
Minneapolis, MN
Happy Hardcore
After spreading the happy vibe from coast to coast, Spree
brings the Happy Hardcore home for Minneapolis crew. Blow
your whistles if you want to hear the Neverending Story!

Arjay Khetamine - - - - - 4-5am
Minneapolis, MN
Hardcore
Arjay >will< kill you...

Tilzs - - - - - 11-12am
Minneapolis, MN
Freeform/Trancecore
We're very lucky to have one of the top Freeform/Trancecore
DJ's in North America, right in our backyard. Thousands of
screaming kids can't be wrong.

Hover Project - - - - - 10-11pm
Minneapolis, MN
Oldschool UK Hardcore LIVE PAIf you were at Frostbite, you know what to 
expect. Be sure
not to forget your whistles and white gloves for this one.
MC ADB from the U.K. will be lending his vocal talent to these
guys for a performance that can't be missed!

MC ADB
United Kingdom
A veteran to the Hardcore scene, both in the UK and North
America. This guy has been a part of it all from the begining.
He'll be on the mic from dusk till dawn and all night long.
>From the mouth of ADB, Peace, Love, Unity.... Rrrrrrrrespect!

$10  PRESALE TICKETS ONLY!

Tickets available May 1st - May 20th

For Ticket and other Information
651-649-4MAD - http://www.madnessindustries.com
(651-649-4623)

‘ardcore, you know the score. If Happy Hardcore/Hardcore/Jungle
isn’t your thing, then don’t come. There _will_ be plenty of free
giveaways (mixtapes, whistles, etc!). Our venue is limited to 400
capacity, and we will not over crowd it, so please
buy your tickets early.

No drugs, no thugs, no alcohol.
R.O.A.R. "In Effect".

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i laugh at you...

you suck



Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< <<any1 have there email addy?>>
 
 yeah, i do...but i sure as hell am not givin it to you...i just did 
 shots w/ victor @ red zone last week actually...plus i'm sure
 he would want nothing to do with you when you were promoting
 putting drugs in girls drinks on mw-raves...
 
 are we seeing how it works yet kiddies?...you talk shit bout the
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Subject: [mw] (fwd) Letter from Jordana (187)
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Got this from alt.rave....

fergus



>This is taken from the message board of Jordana's website
>(http://www.jordana.co.uk/ ) - it's a letter she posted in response to =
the
>events that took place this past week in Kent, Ohio.
>
>------------
>
>Open letter to everyone=20
>Posted by jordana on 2/25/2000, 6:13 pm=20
>
>
>
>
>      first off i want to thank everyone who emailed, called or posted =
here to
>express their concern for me. i am slowly getting around to returning =
the calls
>and i should have answered most of the emails and posts to me by next =
week. the
>prevailing sentiment seems to be one of great saddness that this =
happened and
>that i shouldn't let this stop me from living, djing, making music, =
whatever.=20
>      here is the problem. i have over the last two years kept a secret.=
 i kept
>it because i always wanted to keep a good attitude and keep things =
positive.
>that is that i have been receiving an slowly escalating amount of hate =
email,
>voicemail/phone calls, even a strange package sent to my address and a =
few
>outright death threats. i've been told i was blacklisted from philly and=
 a few
>other places and that "these people owned me".=20
>
>      i have been fearing something of this nature for some time and had
>recuring nightmares of being shot outside a club/rave while sitting in a=
 car
>lot. this incident came damn close and while i would love to go on and =
show
>them they can't win, they already have won. the scene i am apart of now =
bears
>little resemblance to the one of years ago. the attitude and the music =
has
>changed from a thing of beauty to an aggression driven nightmare. =
because of
>the attacks i am now psychologically and emotionally scarred for life. i=
 cannot
>sleep at night now and haven't been able to since the attack. to even dj
>somewhere again seems unreal to me without an armed guard. i am still =
shaking
>thinking about what happened and what COULD have happened. the fact =
remains
>that my life outside of the scene, where no one knows my past, is =
relatively
>normal. the scene as it exists here in america, while full of people =
like
>yourselves who offer nothing but love is also filled with a small but =
virulent
>pocket of hatred and utter ignorance and intolerance no doubt fueled by =
too
>much jerry springer/chris rock/howard stern/dr laura and other such =
rubbish. i
>thought that by ignoring the haters within the scene and just proceeding
>without giving in to them would make it all go away. instead what has =
happened
>is that they decided to make it so i couldn't ignore them. many people =
have
>said i have come to damn far to go out like this but at the same time i =
know
>that the only one that can protect me is me. i have no one else in the =
world to
>do that and this was illustrated both in the incident which you do not =
know
>about where i was mugged randomly on the way to catching a taxi to the =
gig, BY
>MYSELF BECAUSE DOUG AT LIQUID SKY who was PROMOTING the party in this =
case DID
>NOT follow PROPER PROCEEDURE as outlined in my contract which =
ironically, he
>sent out to dozens of promoters which states that I am to be escorted at=
 all
>times between hotel and venue. it also didn't help tht my (ex)bofriend =
roderick
>decided not to meet me or even show up at the club that night...so i was
>mugged, for a $100. i thought this would be the worst thing that would =
happen
>on the tour and then the attack happened on tuesday. all this drove home=
 the
>fact that i have no one to protect me but me.=20
>
>      there have been many things which happened in the last two years =
both
>good and bad but there is a consistent thing in the scene that seems to =
be
>prevalent and that is that many people could not get the head fully =
around the
>fact that my reality and how i am seen in society at large is very =
different
>from my past.=20
>
>      this is why Doug probably thought it would be fine for me to just =
get
>taxi by myself late at night in new york city. which is why i have been =
put
>into countless other dangerous situations that no other woman would be =
put
>into. DJing is a crazy lifestyle. Once late last year while in chicago I=
 was
>picked up by these three shady guys who were the promoters for the =
party. i was
>taken to a room which already looked as if someone had been in it and I =
when i
>called Doug at Liquid Sky and I asked, "what do you know about these =
guys, are
>they safe?" i was told "yeah they're safe." well they ran off in the =
middle of
>the night. i never played any party and they never paid for the hotel =
room so
>the hotel called the police when i went to check out. When the police =
came it
>was found that these guys were LATIN KINGS GANGSTERS. They called the =
police on
>their own event and then fled town, apperantly going to New York. I felt=
 VERY
>stupid when the police said, "Let me get this straight, you fly around =
the
>country alone, your booking agent doesn't investigate these people who =
then
>pick you up at the airport, you get into a car with strange guys and =
ride off
>to god knows where. You're unfamiliar with the area and you stay in =
hotels
>alone. Miss, you're lucky nothing worse has happened to you." well now =
it has.
>it is now time to move on. to make a clean break, to REALLY start a new =
life
>and make a clean break. i tried to have the best of both world but could=
 not.
>god i couldn't even get people to stop using "1.8.7" . the reality is my=
 life
>outside of the scene is on page 57. the people in the scene mostly are =
on page
>10 or maybe 20. the neanderthal piece of rubbish who assualted me =
obviously
>never left page 2. i can never expect everyone to be on the same page =
and well
>rather than pretend that everyone is and be suprised on occassion when i=
 find
>out that they aren't i'd rather just start over and live where everyone =
only
>knows from page 30 on. i know this doesn't much sense and i am reluctant=
 to say
>what i am going to do right now since i am still processing everything =
that has
>occured in the last week or so. one tuesday or wenesday i will issue a =
very
>concise statement which sums up what i plan to do. right now i just need=
 more
>time to think about things and talk to a few people. i do not want to =
make any
>rash, irrational decisions just now. i have fought hard up until now. =
first to
>survive, then to thrive and succeed.=20
>
>      within the scne i have fought ignorance, intolerance, outright =
hatred
>directed towards me because of who i am and what i've come to represent.=
 i've
>fought for respect amongst my peers. i've fought to keep music free and =
to keep
>a spirit of mutual participation and helping one another be productive =
in the
>face of crass consumerism. i've fought those that would want me dead =
because i
>survived. i've done most of this just by going about my buisness as i =
saw fit.
>lest you think i am being dramatic here trust me, you don't know the =
half of
>the stuff i've had to put up with INSIDE THE SCENE. it is very =
idealistic to
>say, "keep your head up, don't let them win jordana" and the idealist in=
 me
>says to just keep going. unfortunately the pragmatist in me says that =
i've
>fought hard enough and nothing, no music, no "scene" is worth loosing =
your life
>over. i came damn close the other night and i do not wish to be a =
martyr. i've
>done alot that i didn't have to and if i had it to do all over again i =
have to
>say i probably would have done things quite differently. i'd have left =
music
>for a time and maybe come back later from the beginning again as the new=
 person
>i'd have become with no excess baggage. the fact is this attack happened
>because i chose to be completely open and honest to my fans and public.
>unfortunately the world isn't ready for that kind of honesty. i'm not =
sure
>where to go from here but i do know that the cities tour is now =
cancelled, and
>i've got to seriously think if i can ever go and dj again. my brain is
>scrambled right now. maybe in the long term i may leave music but in the=
 short
>term i have a half finished album that i'd like to complete even if it =
remains
>unsigned. (i'll just release it as free mp3s if i have to). the music =
isn't
>going to stop anytime really soon but things are now very different. i =
believe
>the two incidents, the mugging in new york city last friday and the
>premeditated attack in kent on tuesday, while unrelated, happened so =
close
>together for a reason. to tell me, "jordana, it's time you began living =
a
>normal life and leave this crazy world behind. you've done your part and=
 given
>enough. it is time to take care of yourself and your needs." when i am =
ready i
>will let you all know what i plan to do.=20
>
>      still recovering, still hurting inside and out but slowly forming =
a
>plan...please pray or meditate or concentrate whatever energy you've got=
 to see
>that he assailant(s) are brought to justice. it doesn't look good right =
now.=20
>
>      jordana=20
>    =20
>
>                              =20
>.oOo. In our madness evermore we rave...Chaucer .oOo.
>
>                            ICQ # 50026651


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THE BASEMENT......WHERE IS IT AT????????????????????
AND IS IT TONITE???????
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Fergus wrote:

> >http://www.atomly.com/jumper.jpg
> >
> >Reason enough not to jump out of the 15th story window.
>
> Just out of curiousity did you get that off of sexzilla.com/~bizarre?
>
> Very interesting page if you can get a crack to it.

Nope.. I have never been to sexzilla.com thank you very much.  :-)



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ello...

I thought some of you lassies and lads would find this interesting.... :D=


http://www.den.net/shows/directdrive/00017

Direct Drive only on Den Tv...check it out


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In a message dated 2/27/0 12:58:36 AM, oleskl wrote:

<<geez.....does name dropping really make you feel cool or something stevie?? 
couldn't you have just said that even tho you have his number, you don't feel 
like giving it out. But I'm sure Victor will be real happy>>

wtf?!...who the hell started this retarded no name dropping
thing?...jealous newbies that don't know anybody?...when i see 
victor i refer to him as victor, because when i first met him, 
he was introduced as "victor"...when someone speaks about two 
tigers i instantly think "victor & amy"...so like according to your 
rule, the next time i see him i can't go "hey victor, how's it goin?"
...i would hafta go: "hey mr. two tigers, how's it goin?" or else i'd
be name dropping?...how retarded...

in addition, didn't you already break your own rule by also
dropping victor's name in your own post?

there's nothing more annoying than people who try to tell
you what you can or can't say.


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stevie:

you talk shit and get laughed at.. 

eat my filter. :]


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 07:19:52 2000
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bwahahaha!!!  i was digging through my mail folders, and happened upon
this post that i saved from mw-raves a looong time ago...  i think that
instead of trying to argue w/ stevie, we could just send this, and save
ourselves a whole lot of time.


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 08:24:06 2000
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Syceda Rhythm presents...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 08:43:02 2000
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In a message dated 2/27/0 6:24:11 AM, te_one wrote:

<<stevie:

you talk shit and get laughed at.. 

eat my filter. :]>>

te_one:

your a poser, that's why you think i talk shit & laugh.

if you were real, you would know i'm one of the few heads
that truly knows whats up.

however your lame e-mail name gave you away (like any
one would actually give much credibility to some one
named 'te_one' anyways).

but atleast you're one less idiot we would have to deal with
at our parties...thank god!



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 09:11:11 2000
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 09:11:48 2000
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Eternal Beats Internet Radio live from Long Island, New York USA
presents a special hardcore edition on Tuesday Feb. 29, 2000.  Go to
www.eternalbeats.cjb.net   click on live broadcast and join the DJs and
listeners in the chat room.

9PM till 11:00PM
Xeno & Narotic (www.gabber.org/stf)
Live Hardcore PA and turntable tagteam

11:00PM till ????
Lord V (Eternal Beats, NY)
breaks, electro, house, big beat

Coming up next week on March 7, Special Guest
Johnny Hardcore (NYWO/Hardcore Power Force/Brooklyn NY)
Hardcore

Guests DJs coming soon:
Odi, Vicious Vic, Bobby Skills & Space Monk-E & more.  

Thanks goes out to all the listeners & the DJs who spin on the show. 
Your support is appreciated very much.  Coming soon is the next Lord V
demo release, I'm gonna give some away on the show, more info coming
soon. If you are a DJ interested in spinning on the show, e-mail me your
contact information.  If you want promotional support for your
partys,bookings for any of the DJs heard on the show, e-mail me your
contact info.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 09:28:19 2000
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for web based mail go here instead:

http://www.yourmom.com 

it's basically a yahoo clone, but better.

If not here's a lovely parting gift:

http://www.comedycentral.com/southpark/playset/

sorry if this is old news to you.

no.. you're right i guess i'm not. 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 09:42:45 2000
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NRR - http://www.imandi.com/go/run.dll?Rewards&ref=aftab

Check it out, this website pays you $5 for each person you refer that
activates an account. To activate your account, you register then after
two weeks type in the pin # that's sent to you on a postcard. The
potential for loot if H-U-G-E! And it's OK to post this to mailing
lists, according to the website. 

Plus, this makes online shopping a little easier, but fe real, we's all
just in it fo tha money, now isn't we?


Dat's what I thought. 


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 09:42:55 2000
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NRR - http://www.imandi.com/go/run.dll?Rewards&ref=aftab

Check it out, this website pays you $5 for each person you refer that
activates an account. To activate your account, you register then after
two weeks type in the pin # that's sent to you on a postcard. The
potential for loot if H-U-G-E! And it's OK to post this to mailing
lists, according to the website. 

Plus, this makes online shopping a little easier, but fe real, we's all
just in it fo tha money, now isn't we?


Dat's what I thought. 


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 10:43:12 2000
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Aftab Hasnain wrote:

> And it's OK to post this to mailing lists, according to the website.

no it's not... troll




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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 16:18:36 2000
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On 02/27/2000 3:40 AM Aftab Hasnain prophesized the following:

> NRR - http://www.imandi.com/go/run.dll?Rewards&ref=aftab
> 
> Check it out, this website pays you $5 for each person you refer that
> activates an account. To activate your account, you register then after
> two weeks type in the pin # that's sent to you on a postcard. The
> potential for loot if H-U-G-E! And it's OK to post this to mailing
> lists, according to the website.
> 
> Plus, this makes online shopping a little easier, but fe real, we's all
> just in it fo tha money, now isn't we?


look you commercialized money hungry gold digging bitch this is SPAM and
this is a mailing list and the people that make up the rules for this
mailing list do not reside at the above URL you posted, they reside at the
MW-Raves FAQ, which can be found below, which states your SPAM is
UNWELCOME!!!!!!!



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so, who wants to tell their story first?

I wanna hear everyone's everything about the no backpacks, cameras, candy,
vicks, masks, etc...no regular bathrooms, just port-a-cans, no running
water...waiting for 5+ hours just to get in the door when you bought
pre-sales tickets...and the riot that ensued because it was taking so long.

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spam is the best kids.....go to hawii they make gourmet dinners with that 
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took a much need break from rooting through volatile mail... was nagging at 
my blood pressure.

got a job - assisting in information management at the art insitute of chicago

have t1, will travel.

see you all in detroit AND ann arbor march 10th.

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1.  The line - 45 minutes to get into the parking lot... another 30 minutes 
to figure out how to get into the v.i.p. line.  From what we heard, kids 
later tried to bumrush the door... and hearsay was that someone was chasing 
someone with a baseball bat... Further add to the melee that we learned there 
was an Narcotics Anon. Convention happening right across from the venue at 
the ramada inn.

2.  The space - Interesting use of both the Harvey Expo and Photon.  The old 
school entrance to the expo was used as a V.I.P. and a potential fire hazard 
turned corridor led into the main hallway of photon which was the jungle 
room.  Ritchie and John occupied a sparsely decorated Photon arena.  I like 
the expo arena alot tho... reminds me of fulton markets.

3.  The sound - who am I fooling... standing near the back of the harvey 
expo... My bowels shook horribly.  Rock n' Roll.  The reverb in the jungle 
room towards the booth was terrible... System needed clearer highs.  
Ritchie's playpen... the sound was clean and concise.

4.  Talent :
    A.  Marcus Watkins and Niko - A very welcome change to see two chicago 
d.j.'s  jack things on the harder techno side of things.  Alot of energy and 
attitude. 
    B.  Paul Anthony minus Paul Johnson - I think the man can do well enough 
by  
    himself.  Enjoyed the freeform selection of him solo much better. 
    C.  Michael Myers - If you are into that sort of thing... next.
    D.  Paul Anthony plus Paul Johnson - Keep Pushing.  Was good up until 
then.
    E.  Dieselboy - Clean mixing, nice plates, v.i.p.'s from marc and the 
boys, but it 
    suffered on the ill fated system.  Promoters need to stop putting that 
boy in 
    closet space.
    F.  Phantom and Danny - As usual breakneck mixing styles and scratching 
is  
    what we've come to expect... but the plates were not hitting as well as 
they 
    should of on the bassheavy system... not enough treble to give make 
distinction.
    G.  John Aquaviva - As people have said, it seemed that they were playing 
up to
    a Chicago crowd.  And after hearing a horrible Bob Marley house track, I 
decided
    to give up being adventurous and go back to the other rooms.
    H.  Hardfloor - Truly the standout highlight of the evening.  If you've 
seen hardfloor
    you know they are a traditional p.a. Stopping between songs which 
thankfully it
    looked like the crowd was getting the deal.  But its always fun to watch 
them
    and the nostalgia factor of the performance seemed nonexistant.  The 
parts that
    I did get to hear didn't take cheap shots... although I would have liked 
to hear 
    "drug overlord."  if they played it before we left, i'll kick myself, 
lightly.
    I.  Plastikman - Didn't get to snap photos of him or aquaviva for urb, 
due to an   edict laid down by the crew themselves... NO PHOTOS... even if 
you have an all     access press pass.  Kind of blew the whole point of 
going, so we lost interest  and abandoned the idea of seeing him.

5.  Odd Sights - 
    A.  Was that Puppet?
    B.  Girl sleeping on the floor at around 11:45 p.m. in one of the 
upstairs photon
    rooms.  40 dollar catnap.
    C.  Guy wearing a "Pansy Divison" shirt, rolling, sitting in the lap of a 
girl, rolling.      Guy starts to kiss girl in a very heterosexual way.  
    D.  The image in my head of the port o' johns after 4 am.
    E.   An obvious heat stroke candidate, dressed in a 60 inch kikwears, 
hat, and 
    winter Marc Ecko jacket, zipped up for added effect.  Style before 
substance.
    F.  Either a jawa or the real deal Gorgon of the Sorgons, in ceremonial 
shiny gold
    robe with matching hood.
    G.  Someone chasing someone with a louisville slugger.  
    H.  Yet another Mom and Dad seemingly looking for their son or daughter.

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well. what can i say? i went from completely thinking boogie tribe to be 
shady to being quite impressed.

+Lines and items...

No backpacks, no cameras, no binkys. Awww. However, the line situation was 
very.. interesting. After waiting about a half hour by the tent, I was 
informed that there was a much faster moving line over in the entrance to the 
Photon. Got in at around 12:30. Last I had heard, right around when I got in, 
the angry ravers over by the tent decided to bumrush it. Muah. 

+Location...

I definitely love the Photon. I haven't been there before, but wow. The Expo 
center itself had a pretty nice light setup and was definitely spacious. The 
Jungle room... eh. Think fire hazard... too many people! But the Photon. Wow. 
That maze thing was definately fun. When the dance floor got way too crowded, 
I found an empty part of the maze and danced. Mmmm. However, I think the 
venue was way crowded. I don't know if the capacity is really 6000. Because I 
know there were points in the Jungle room where things were just a 
standstill. Good thing I'm not a huge junglist, because there wasn't any room 
to dance in.

+Music.

Hardfloor was worth the $36. Before the party, I was saying that Hawtin would 
be worth the $36. mmm. I only caught about five minutes of Hawtin.... um, 
whoever was spinning around 1 a.m. in the Photon was amazing. I was 
impressed. I don't think I've danced that much ever. Danny and Phantom.... 
well. hm. I've seen Danny spin much better (think Kick It 2), but it was 
still worth a visit to the Jungle room. Grandmaster Funk... um. No. I wasn't 
particularly in the mood for disco house at that point. But anyway. I forget 
who was on after him, but it was trance (oh no, evil trance) but it was 
realllllly good trance. Perfect for 5am :)


+Quotes of the Evening

"It's all about the PLUR, bitch! PLUR PLUR PLUR! Why can't I get any fucking 
PLUR tonight?" --> angry raver yelling at security.

"You think this binky enhances the evening? Try sucking on my glowsticks." 
--> Two people rolling that I ran into in the maze.

"This isn't a motherfucking babysitter's club." --> security to some chik 
when he ripped the binky out of her mouth.


+speaking of security, am I the only one that thought they were kind of being 
assholes? I was wandering through the maze, peeking to find a hallway, and 
some security guy grabbed me (my arm still has a little mark where his nails 
scratched me), shown a flashlight in my face and said "What the fuck are you 
looking for? What drugs are you on?" and i was completely sober. I told him 
so, and that I was just looking for a way through the maze and he said 
"Stupid ravers..." and walked away. I also encountered other security guards 
just flashing their lights in people that were sitting down. One guy had his 
drugs confiscated and they also made him take out his wallet. When he refused 
the first time, they kicked him until he did. They then took all his 
money..... I'm not huge on this PLUR idea, but that's not PLUR thought 
process... that's just being an asshole.....

But other than that... mmmmm. I was very satisfied with my LOTD3...

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In a message dated 02/27/2000 2:38:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
GLoWsTiCkcHiKa@aol.com writes:

<<  but it was trance (oh no, evil trance) but it was 
 realllllly good trance. Perfect for 5am :)
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    Was that Mr. Lawrence by chance?

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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/27/0 6:24:11 AM, te_one wrote:
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> <<stevie:
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> you talk shit and get laughed at..
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> eat my filter. :]>>
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> te_one:
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> your a poser, that's why you think i talk shit & laugh.
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> if you were real, you would know i'm one of the few heads
> that truly knows whats up.

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In a message dated 2/27/0 7:20:14 AM, dpayer wrote:

<<Begin flame:
Dear:
[ ] Clueless Newbie [X] Lamer [X] AOLer
[ ] Me too er [ ] Pervert [X] Loser>>

this prejudice you have against AOL'ers is very unbecoming
doris...being on AOL does not automatically equate lamer or
loser...do you realize how many people are on AOL?...including:
paul johnson, scott henry, terry mullan, many many more 
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I'd like to first say that I had a fabulous,
fabulous time at LotD3, with a few exceptions.
We arrived very early at the venue, and due to
BoogieTribe's poor planning, the crowd control was virtually nonexistant.
They had to use the rent-a-cops to subdue a wet, cold,
ANGRY crowd that really should have been inside the venue as soon as
possible.
Many of us paid a lot of money and came from far away.
Severaly people in line with my group was from as far away as Idaho.
When the cops started beating up the guy in front of the crowd,
it immediately started bad vibes that were
very difficult to recover from the rest of the night.
Next time, some crowd control fences and more
"pat-down people" were needed. Fuck, i was in line for 4 hours.
Also, what the fuck was with the pat-down people
not letting in people with pacifiers and binkies?
Cameras I can understand....

Once inside, I had a fabulous time!

Hey, somebody email me at mailto:mtiern1@uic.edu
That should work if you have netscape or msOutlook.
mtiern1@uic.edu

thanks ravers!
*mwah*

Matthew


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In a message dated 2/27/00 3:18:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
name drop name drop name drop


Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< this prejudice you have against AOL'ers is very unbecoming
 doris...being on AOL does not automatically equate lamer or
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 paul johnson, scott henry, terry mullan, many many more 
 that are from being lame or a loser just for using AOL.
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not like i'm in this at all, but maybe she is saying that aol harbors idi=
ots
except for a few which you named below.  To be honest I think aol is evil=
 and
that is because the lamers who are on it fuck it up for the cool people w=
ho
use it.  So, I think that's what the aol reference refers to.  *shrug*  J=
ust
my 3 dollars and six dimes... :o



Respect...yo!

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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 2/27/0 7:20:14 AM, dpayer wrote:

<<Begin flame:
Dear:
[ ] Clueless Newbie [X] Lamer [X] AOLer
[ ] Me too er [ ] Pervert [X] Loser>>

this prejudice you have against AOL'ers is very unbecoming
doris...being on AOL does not automatically equate lamer or
loser...do you realize how many people are on AOL?...including:
paul johnson, scott henry, terry mullan, many many more =

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I came, I was shoved, I somehow got in. I'm hurting today because of the push 
in the tent crap. Ow! Ow! Ow! Maybe I shouldn't have drank before going. All 
I know is that when I got in..I lost it and started to run around and grab 
asses and or hug unsuspecting raverfolk. Either way I had a (fill in the 
blank) time. Secruity? Totally needed more me thinks. I hear that the Harvey 
police didn't help much either. Took about 45minutes for my ass to be shoved 
in, stayed for ruffly 2 hours. 

One thing that made me kinda laugh...Paul (I don't know which one) said that 
he was going to play some rekkids that he played 4 years ago. I looked around 
and wondered how many people were actually around from 4 years ago.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 21:33:05 2000
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okay....i got in fine. didnt even get searched. was in the door in ten
minutes if i even had that long of a wait. there were bathrooms with
running water...you just had to hunt for them. some kids who did not have
tickets who came thinking they could get in bumrushed the tent and that
was why the riot broke out from what i heard.  it was quite
packed...sardine much? but richie was playin some nice stuff...hawd...but
it was too hot in that room so i couldnt stay in there for too
long...still managed to dance quite a bit...john acquaviva was goooood
too.  played "i feel love"...awesome. =) caught a bit of christopher
lawrences set too...good...albeit not the kinda trance i like...other than
the heat factor, the party wasnt bad. i was surprised. pleasantly so.
although i wont say it was one of the best parties i had ever been too, it
was by far the best chi party i had been to (only have been there like
five times tho)...

well...thats about it. not bad...good music...didnt witness as much cracky
shit as i do normally in chi...thank god. so it was aiight. the price
still sucked...=P 

peace
lauryn

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In a message dated 2/27/00 2:18:41 PM Central Standard Time, 
Steviet069@aol.com writes:

<< do you realize how many people are on AOL?...including:
 paul johnson, scott henry, terry mullan, many many more 
 that are from being lame or a loser just for using AOL. >>

Don't forget about The Crystal Method. crystlmthd@aol.com

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 21:51:11 2000
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ok
ok


People, this is getting ridiculous!

Last night in Indy @ Organized Chaos' first ever event, Indy
faced the 2nd OD from G in 2 weeks that resulted in death!

Again, I repeat:

2 weeks
2 ODs
BOTH from GHB
BOTH DEAD!

Now, when are kids gonna learn that G is SUPER dangerous?!?!
Honestly, IMO, like heroine, GHB just shouldn't be fucked with 
PERIOD!  So why were there 6 pass-outs 2 weekends ago and
3 pass-outs just last night???  Why have there been 2 deaths
in as many months?!?!  Why is our scene being threatened
from within, yet again!?!?!

Guys, this has GOT to end!!

GHB needs to be stopped!

Period!

Not just for the community and thescene, but for yourself
as well!  PLEASE STOP F*CKING WITH GHB!!!!

So, because of irresponsibility, a party that was supposed
to go on until 7am could only go until 6am!  Now, a young
man who could've been somebody is now gone... forever.

Doesn't that mean anything to you?

I hope so.

Think.

GHB kills!

-Chocolate

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In a message dated 27/02/00 11:39:29 AM US Eastern Standard Time, 
tonysebion@tensionboy.com writes:

<< I wanna hear everyone's everything about the no backpacks, cameras, candy,
 vicks, masks, etc.. >>


BOUT GODDAMN TIME

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In a message dated 27/02/00 5:09:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, 
HouseBabylon@aol.com writes:

<< 2 weeks
 2 ODs
 BOTH from GHB
 BOTH DEAD! >>


yea, I saw about 500+ (not exaggerating) ods on ghb in tampa when I lived 
there.. 
caused the antirave law. It was on the news at least 3x a week.
nasty shit.
to me, its in the same category as H and crack.
nasty nasty shit, 1st of all NOT made for girls...
its a hormone for men..(BODYBUILDERS) these 100lb girls and boys drinking it
cant be good.

ok
im gonna go rave in my room to my new codered cd
<3lorie

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Feb 27 22:49:36 2000
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AOL is geared to target people who do not have the
desire and/or mental capacity to learn how to
configure an email, create a dialer, etc. Basically
it's made for idiots, which is why it's so popular.
But the one good thing about aol is that it's a good
place to network, hence why some people such as dj's,
promoter. etc. use it on occasion.
Laine

--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 2/27/0 7:20:14 AM, dpayer wrote:
> 
> <<Begin flame:
> Dear:
> [ ] Clueless Newbie [X] Lamer [X] AOLer
> [ ] Me too er [ ] Pervert [X] Loser>>
> 
> this prejudice you have against AOL'ers is very
> unbecoming
> doris...being on AOL does not automatically equate
> lamer or
> loser...do you realize how many people are on
> AOL?...including:
> paul johnson, scott henry, terry mullan, many many
> more 
> that are from being lame or a loser just for using
> AOL.
> 
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    Is it just me, or does this sound like the shittiest party ever? You pay
a ridiculous amount of money just to stand in line up to four hours to get
in and hear a couple megastar DJs that aren't necassarily all that anyway,
the security are assholes, the place is packed, and it's tough to find water
or bathrooms? And yet every review I've seen says it was a good party??? How
does this work? Maybe there's a reason they call it shitcago...

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In a message dated 2/27/00 4:50:11 PM Central Standard Time, 
junglejunkey@yahoo.com writes:

<< AOL is geared to target people who do not have the
 desire and/or mental capacity to learn how to
 configure an email, create a dialer, etc. Basically
 it's made for idiots, which is why it's so popular.
 But the one good thing about aol is that it's a good
 place to network, hence why some people such as dj's,
 promoter. etc. use it on occasion. >>

I scraped my free user account from my dad originally... when I was too poor 
to afford an real dialup service... Whereever I've been whether it be in the 
subs, in the city, or even out of state in a hotel on a gig... I've found a 
dialup pretty damned easily in the vicinity... and its an easy, brainless way 
of receiving 250 messages in a period of five hours which is what I average 
on this.  Plus, whenever someone asks me for a number at a gig and I don't 
have cards or promotional shit on me... its much easier for them to remember 
KIDENTROPY@aol.com rather than give them an address that isn't ingrained in 
their psyche.  I'll admit aol mail doesn't really give you many options like 
filtering or the like... but the ease of being able to be found when one 
needs to get a hold of you... is worth its weight in gold. 

not to mention my facilities at home and my facilities at work differ more 
than a slight amount.  Different strokes for different folks... I like to 
keep my options open.

as for networking with aol... i.e. finding promoters on AOL and getting into 
chatrooms and the like.  forget it.

90% of bookings in the past done through AOL always result in some expectable 
bullshit.  Rule of thumb: if you are broke as fuck and using an AOL 
account... another person on the same token is probably equally as broke.   

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yeah...I've got my own server, know a fuckload more about computers than her, 
 and get free AOL.

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Hey entro.... did u ever get to MC?

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I don't htink I'm ever going back to Chicago again.  AFter waiting in line
for three hours with out really moving me and my friends decided to go
home (a 3 hour drive).  Oh, we had presales too.  Nice, huh.  I've never
had a good expierence in Chicago, and I don't think I'm going to try
again.  I'm sticking with Madison parties from now on - much better venues
for the crowds, even if we don't have the Richie Hawtons of the DJ world.
It's not worth it to pay $36, drive that far and not get in.  And I'm
doubting there's any chance boogie Tribe will refund my money..  Fuck
Chicago.  do I just pick the bad parties?  Cause 2/3's of the time I drive
down ther eI don't get in.  Maybe I'm just picking the wrong parties..


> 
> 
>     Is it just me, or does this sound like the shittiest party ever? You pay
> a ridiculous amount of money just to stand in line up to four hours to get
> in and hear a couple megastar DJs that aren't necassarily all that anyway,
> the security are assholes, the place is packed, and it's tough to find water
> or bathrooms? And yet every review I've seen says it was a good party??? How
> does this work? Maybe there's a reason they call it shitcago...
> 
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In a message dated 2/27/00 6:36:44 PM Central Standard Time, Panked@aol.com 
writes:

<< Hey entro.... did u ever get to MC? >>

I mc'd like 10 or fifteen minutes for danny and phantom then left.  Too much 
reverb, not enough space up in the booth, the fact I really wasn't supposed 
to be on the bill and the fact I was there to review the party for urb... 
were all factors... 

but I did kick a couple of bits.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 01:38:50 2000
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imbalance2 is finally starting.  for you people still at home/work, there
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tune in NOW$#!#!@#!

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In a message dated 2/25/00 9:56:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
femina1976@yahoo.com writes:

<< If you copy and paste this message as opposed to
 forwarding it, you will eliminate all those nasty
 arrows that accumulate with multiple forwards.
 
 Afghanistan Petition
 > > > Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 3:24:21
 > > >
 > > > The Government of Afghanistan is waging a war
 upon women. Since
 > > > the Taleban took power in 1996, women have had
 to wear burqua
 > > > and have been beaten and stoned in public for
 not having the
 proper
 > > > attire, even if this means simply not having the
 mesh covering in
 > > > front of their eyes.
 > > >
 > > > One woman was beaten to DEATH by an angry mob of
 fundamentalists
 > > > for accidentally exposing her arm while she was
 driving. Another
 > > > was stoned to death for trying to leave the
 country with a man
 that
 > > was not a relative. Women are not allowed to work
 or even go out in
 > > public without a male relative; professionals have
 been forced from
 > > their jobs and stuffed into their homes, so women
 such as
 professors,
 > > translators, doctors, lawyers, artists and writers
 > > > that depression is becoming so widespread that
 it has reached
 > > > emergency levels.
 > > >
 > > > There is no way in such an extreme Islamic
 society to know the
 > > > suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers
 are estimating
 that
 > >
 > > the suicide rate among women, who cannot find
 proper medication
 > > > and treatment for severe depression and would
 rather take their
 > > > lives than live in such conditions, has
 increased significantly.
 > > >
 > > > Homes where a woman is present must have their
 windows painted
 > > > so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They
 must wear silent
 > > > shoes so that they are never heard. Women live
 in fear of their
 > > > lives for the slightest misbehaviour. Because
 they cannot work,
 those
 > > > without male relatives or husbands are either
 starving to death
 or
 > > > begging on the street, even if they hold Ph.D.s.
 > > >
 > > > There are almost no medical facilities available
 for women, and
 > > > relief workers, in protest, have mostly left the
 country, taking
 > >
 > > medicine and psychologists and other things
 necessary to treat the
 > >
 > > skyrocketing level of depression among women. At
 one of the rare
 > >
 > > hospitals for women, a reporter found still,
 nearly lifeless bodies
 > > lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their
 burqua, unwilling
 > > to speak, eat, or do anything, but slowly wasting
 away. Others have
 > > gone mad and were seen crouched in corners,
 perpetually rocking
 > > > or crying, most of them in fear. One doctor is
 considering, when
 > > > what little medication that is left finally runs
 out, leaving
 these
 > > > women in front of the President's residence as a
 form of peaceful
 > > > protest.
 > > >
 > > > It is at the point where the term 'human rights
 violations' has
 > > > become an understatement. Husbands have the
 power of life and
 death
 > > > over their women relatives, especially their
 wives, but an angry
 > > > mob has just as much right to stone or beat a
 woman, often to
 death,
 > > > for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them
 in the slightest
 way.
 > > >
 > > > Women enjoyed relative freedom, to work, dress
 generally as they
 > > > wanted, and drive and appear in public alone
 until only 1996. The
 > > > rapidity of this transition is the main reason
 for the depression
 > > > and suicide; women who were once educators or
 doctors or simply
 used
 > > > to basic human freedoms are now severely
 restricted and treated
 as
 > > > subhuman in the name of right-wing
 fundamentalist Islam. It is
 not
 > > > their tradition or 'culture,' but is alien to
 them, and it is
 > > > extreme even for those cultures where
 fundamentalism is the rule.
 > > > Everyone has a right to a tolerable human
 existence, even if they
 > > > are women in a Muslim country. If we can
 threaten military force
 in
 > > > Kosovo in the name of human rights for the sake
 of ethnic
 Albanians,
 > > > citizens of the world can certainly express
 peaceful outrage at
 the
 > > > oppression, murder and injustice committed
 against women by the
 > > > Taleban.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > In signing this, we agree that the current
 treatment of women in
 > > > Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and
 deserves support
 > > > and action by the United Nations and that the
 current situation
 > > > overseas will not be tolerated. Women's Rights
 is not a small
 issue
 > > > anywhere and it is UNACCEPTABLE for women in
 1999 to be
 > > > treated as subhuman and so much as property.
 Equality and human
 > > > decency is a RIGHT not a freedom, whether one
 lives in
 Afghanistan
 > > > or elsewhere.
 > > >
 > > > 1) Suzanne Dathe, Grenoble, France
 > > > 2) Laurence COMPARAT, Grenoble, France
 > > > 3) Philippe MOTTE, Grenoble, France
 > > > 4) Jok FERRAND, Mont St Martin, France
 > > > 5) Emmanuelle PIGNOL, St Martin d'Heres, FRANCE
 > > > 6) Marie GAUTHIER, Grenoble, FRANCE
 > > > 7) Laurent VESCALO, Grenoble,FRANCE
 > > > 8) Mathieu MOY, St Egreve, FRANCE
 > > > 9) Bernard BLANCHET, Mont St Martin, FRANCE
 > > > 10) Tassadite FAVRIE, Grenoble, FRANCE
 > > > 11) Loic GODARD, St Ismier, FRANCE
 > > > 12) Benedicte PASCAL, Grenoble, FRANCE
 > > > 13) Khedaidja BENATIA, Grenoble, FRANCE
 > > > 14) Marie-Therese LLORET, Grenoble, FRANCE
 > > > 15) Benoit THEAU, Poitiers, FRANCE
 > > > 16) Bruno CONSTANTIN, Poitiers, FRANCE
 > > > 17) Christian COGNARD, Poitiers, FRANCE
 > > > 18) Robert GARDETTE, Paris, FRANCE
 > > > 19) Claude CHEVILLARD, Montpellier, FRANCE
 > > > 20) Gilles FREISS, Montpellier, FRANCE
 > > > 21) Patrick AUGEREAU, Montpellier, FRANCE.
 > > > 22) Jean IMBERT, Marseille, FRANCE
 > > > 23) Jean-Claude MURAT, Toulouse, France
 > > > 24) Anna BASSOLS, Barcelona, Spain
 > > > 25) Mireia DUNACH, Barcelona, Spain
 > > > 26) Michel VILLAZ, Grenoble, France
 > > > 27) Pages Frederique, Dijon, France
 > > > 28) Rodolphe FISCHMEISTER,
 Chatenay-Malabry,France
 > > > 29) Francois BOUTEAU, Paris, France
 > > > 30) Patrick PETER, Paris, France
 > > > 31) Lorenza RADICI, Paris, France
 > > > 32) Monika Siegenthaler, Bern, Switzerland
 > > > 33) Mark Philp, Glasgow, Scotland
 > > > 34) Tomas Andersson, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 35) Jonas Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 36) Karin Eriksson, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 37) Ake Ljung, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 38) Carina Sedlmayer, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 39) Rebecca Uddman, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 40) Lena Skog, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 41) Micael Folke, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 42) Britt-Marie Folke, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 43) Birgitta Schuberth, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 44) Lena Dahl, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 45) Ebba Karlsson, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 46) Jessica Carlsson, Vaxjo, Sweden
 > > > 47) Sara Blomquist, Vaxjo, Sweden
 > > > 48) Magdalena Fosseus, Vaxjo, Sweden
 > > > 49) Charlotta Langner, Goteborg, Sweden
 > > > 50) Andrea Egedal, Goteborg, Sweden
 > > > 51) Lena Persson, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 52) Magnus Linder, Umea ,Sweden
 > > > 53) Petra Olofsson, Umea, Sweden
 > > > 54) Caroline Evenbom, Vaxjo, Sweden
 > > > 55) Asa Pettersson, Grimsas, Sweden
 > > > 56) Jessica Bjork, Grimsas, Sweden
 > > > 57) Linda Ahlbom Goteborg, Sweden
 > > > 58) Jenny Forsman, Boras, Sweden
 > > > 59) Nina Gunnarson, Kinna, Sweden
 > > > 60) Andrew Harrison, New Zealand
 > > > 61) Bryre Murphy, New Zealand
 > > > 62) Claire Lugton, New Zealand
 > > > 63) Sarah Thornton, New Zealand
 > > > 64) Rachel Eade, New Zealand
 > > > 65) Magnus Hjert, London, UK
 > > > 67) Madeleine Stamvik, Hurley, UK
 > > > 68) Susanne Nowlan, Vermont, USA
 > > > 69) Lotta Svenby, Malmoe, Sweden
 > > > 70) Adina Giselsson, Malmoe, Sweden
 > > > 71) Anders Kullman, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 72) Rebecka Swane, Stockholm,Sweden
 > > > 73) Jens Venge, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 74) Catharina Ekdahl, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 75) Nina Fylkegard, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 76) Therese Stedman, Malmoe, Sweden
 > > > 77) Jannica Lund, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 78) Douglas Bratt
 > > > 79) Mats Lofstrom, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 80) Li Lindstrom, Sweden
 > > > 81) Ursula Mueller, Sweden
 > > > 82) Marianne Komstadius, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 83) Peter Thyselius, Stockholm, Sweden
 > > > 84) Gonzalo Oviedo, Quito, Ecuador
 > > > 85) Amalia Romeo, Gland, Switzerland
 > > > 86) Margarita Restrepo, Gland, Switzerland
 > > > 87) Eliane Ruster, Crans p.C., Switzerland
 > > > 88) Jennifer Bischoff-Elder, Hong Kong
 > > > 89) Azita Lashgari, Beirut, Lebanon
 > > > 90) Khashayar Ostovany, New York, USA
 > > > 91) Lisa L Miller, Reno NV
 > > > 92) Danielle Avazian, Los Angeles, CA
 > > > 93) Sara Risher, Los Angeles, Ca.
 > > > 94) Melanie London, New York, NY
 > > > 95) Susan Brownstein , Los Angeles, CA
 > > > 96) Steven Raspa, San Francisco, CA
 > > > 97) Margot Duane, Ross, CA
 > > > 98) Natasha Darnall, Los Angeles, CA
 > > > 99) Candace Brower, Evanston, IL
 > > > 100) James Kjelland, Evanston, IL
 > > > 101) Michael Jampole, Beach Park, IL, USA
 > > > 102) Diane Willis, Wilmette, IL, USA
 > > > 103) Sharri Russell, Roanoke, VA, USA
 > > > 104) Faye Cooley, Roanoke, VA, USA
 > > > 105) Natalie Edwards, Charlottesville VA USA
 > > > 106) Cyndy Williams, Charlottesville, VA USA
 > > > 107) Donna Hall, Lynchburg, Va USA
 > > > 108) Robin Hinkle, Lynchburg, VA USA
 > > > 109) George Vass Venice, FL USA
 > > > 110) Martha Ferris, Moncks Corner, SC USA
 > > > 111) Teresa Smith, Charleston, SC, USA
 > > > 112) Terry Longo, Orlando, FL, USA
 > > > 113) Charlotte Downs, Orlando, FL, USA
 > > > 114) Laura M. Connaughton, Orlando, FL USA
 > > > 115) Ronit Doran, Tel Aviv, Israel
 > > > 116) Iris Berenstein, Johannesburg, South Africa
 > > > 117) Lynne Jeffreys, Johannesburg, South Africa
 > > > 118) Sharon van Heerden, Johannesburg, South
 Africa
 > > > 119) Lizelle Mc Mahon, Johannesburg, South
 Africa
 > > > 120) Frik du Toit Suid Afrika
 > > > 121) Glenda Warrin, Cape Town, South Africa
 > > > 122) Andrew le Roux, Cape Town, South Africa
 > > > 123) Nathea Beukes, Cape Town, South Africa
 > > > 124) Johan Wiesner, Toowoomba, Australia
 > > > 125) Retha Wiesner, Toowoomba, Australia
 > > > 126) Leon de Villiers, Toowoomba, Australia
 > > > 127) Leslie Willmers, Cape Town, South Africa
 > > > 128) Wayne Jacobs, Cape Town, South Africa
 > > > 129) Davlynne Lidbetter, Cape Town, South Africa
 > > > 130) Gunnar Blondal, Oslo, Norway
 > > > 131) Magns Blndal, Reykjavik, Iceland
 > > > 132) Alan Hughes, Manston,England
 > > > 133) Claire Page, Rochester, England
 > > > 134) Cathy Smith, London, England
 > > > 135) Joy Ogden, London, England
 > > > 136) Joanne Casemore, London, England
 > > > 137) Natalie Wilkie, London, England
 > > > 138) Sarah Farmer, London, England
 > > > 139) Tiffany Brown, London, England
 > > > 140) Melody Brown, Surrey, England
 > > > 141) Tim Balmford, Oxon, England
 > > > 142) Liz Balmford, Oxon, England
 > > > 143) .Martin Haines, Nottingham, England
 > > > 144) .Peter Tanner, Colchester, England
 > > > 145) .Jamie Tanner, Colchester, England
 > > > 146) .Monika Platek, Polish Ass. of Legal
 Education, POLAND
 > > > 147) .Sam Welham, Children & Armed Conflict
 Unit, Essex Uni, UK
 > > > 148) .Marleen Temmerman, ICRH,Ghent, Belgium
 > > > 149) .Mavhteld Gheysen, kortrijk, Belgium
 > > > 150) .Peter Vranken, Gaborone, Botswana
 > > > 151) .Carol Brown, Gaborone, Botswana
 > > > 152) .Sandi Carlile, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
 > > > 153) Margaret Hayman, NewZealand
 > > > 154) John Hayman, New Zealand
 > > > 155) Jan Arnold, New Zealand
 > > > 156) Yvonne Oomen, New Zealand
 > > > 157) Bridget McDonnell, Melbourne, Australia
 > > > 158) Carolyn Bray, Providence, RI, USA
 > > > 159) Carol Pentleton, Glocester, RI, USA
 > > > 160) Sara Wye, Warwick, RI, USA
 > > > 161) Pam Brightman, Wakefield, RI, USA
 > > > 162) Kathy Swink, Wakefield, RI, USA
 > > > 163) Linda Watts Jackim, Wakefield, RI, USA
 > > > 164) Patricia Newport Hart, Providence, RI, USA
 > > > 165) Elissa Leone, Chicago, IL, USA
 > > > 166) Jane Sherman, Westport, CT USA
 > > > 167) Kate Washton, Hastings-on-Hudson, USA
 > > > 168) Mary Mazzotta, Newton, MA
 > > > 169) Angela Gora, Providence, RI, USA
 > > > 170) Sr. Faye Medina, Providence, RI, USA
 > > > 171) Sr. Marta In?s Toro, OP Providence, RI, USA
 > > > 172) Fr. Michael DE TEMPLE, OP, Zanesville,
 Ohio, USA
 > > 173) Mary M. Reichley
 > > > 174) James V. Marchionda, Oak Park, IL, USA
 >175)Mary M. Howrey, Ann Arbor, MI
 >176)Catherine Davey, Ann Arbor, MI
 >177) Kathleen Cross, Tarrytown, New York
 >178) Mary Ann Cassidy, White Plains, NY
 >179) Josseline Martin, Paris, France
 >180) Hannelore Partaix, Paris, France
 >181) Marsha Baumert, OH, USA
 >182) Kripa Shah, Coventry, UK
 >183) BulBul Kaul, Boston, USA
 >183) Lakshmi Sarma, Harrisburg, PA, USA
 >184) Alice-Anne Krishnan, Brooklyn, NY, USA
 >185) Gina Szwarcbart, Brooklyn, NY, USA
 >186) Elizabeth Passmore, Storrs, CT, USA
 >187) Ronald R. Ferrucci, Jr., North Haven, CT, USA
 >188) Ronald Ferrucci, Sr., North Haven, CT, USA
 >189) Ralph Ferrucci, North Haven, CT, USA
 >190) JoAnn Ferrucci, North Haven, CT, USA
 >191) Barbara Ferrucci, North Haven, CT, USA
 192) Sterling J. Harris, Louisville, KY, USA
 193) Leah R Ottersbach, Louisvill, KY  USA  
 194) Jared Seymour, Lexington, Ky. USA

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    That's been my experience as well, last haloween I went against the good
advice of many to stay away from Chicago, and went to the huge Halloween
party down there. Despite managing to get on the guest list me and a couple
friends had to stand in line for hours, with a gigantic mob outside, only to
be let into a venue that was so insanely overcrowded and hot that I expected
it to start raining any minute. The sound was smaller than any of the
smallest parties I've ever been to in Mpls and the party got shut down at
3am. As we were coming in I saw what the promoters were using to hold the
cash, a 40 gallon drum! I heard several of the DJs didn't even show (if they
were ever booked to begin with) and I'm sure the promoters called the cops
on themselves, as the cops had been there for the whole party, doing
security if I remember correctly... shitcago.

     - Matt Murphy -
     murph@mr.net
     ICQ # 4383740

> I don't htink I'm ever going back to Chicago again.  AFter waiting in line
> for three hours with out really moving me and my friends decided to go
> home (a 3 hour drive).  Oh, we had presales too.  Nice, huh.  I've never
> had a good expierence in Chicago, and I don't think I'm going to try
> again.  I'm sticking with Madison parties from now on - much better venues
> for the crowds, even if we don't have the Richie Hawtons of the DJ world.
> It's not worth it to pay $36, drive that far and not get in.  And I'm
> doubting there's any chance boogie Tribe will refund my money..  Fuck
> Chicago.  do I just pick the bad parties?  Cause 2/3's of the time I drive
> down ther eI don't get in.  Maybe I'm just picking the wrong parties..



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I've added a new mix to my site. Real audio and MP3 formats. It's a live 
trancecore/freeform mix from Happy Again in Minneapolis this past saturday. 
It's 32 minutes because I didn't realize that I had to erase the minidisk 
before I recored :) (first time using it).

http://members.xoom.com/tilzs

Thanks to DJ Spree for lending me the minidisk recorder to try out for the 
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please take me off your mail list.  thanx
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Peace.  Its because of this lackadaisakal, carefree, apathetic attitude
that drugs are "okay" and if you say something about it, they are being
"disrespectful".  Drug Use IS Drug Abuse.  Peace.


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On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 HouseBabylon@aol.com wrote:

> ok
> ok
> 
> 
> People, this is getting ridiculous!
> 
> Last night in Indy @ Organized Chaos' first ever event, Indy
> faced the 2nd OD from G in 2 weeks that resulted in death!
> 
> Again, I repeat:
> 
> 2 weeks
> 2 ODs
> BOTH from GHB
> BOTH DEAD!
> 
> Now, when are kids gonna learn that G is SUPER dangerous?!?!
> Honestly, IMO, like heroine, GHB just shouldn't be fucked with 
> PERIOD!  So why were there 6 pass-outs 2 weekends ago and
> 3 pass-outs just last night???  Why have there been 2 deaths
> in as many months?!?!  Why is our scene being threatened
> from within, yet again!?!?!
> 
> Guys, this has GOT to end!!
> 
> GHB needs to be stopped!
> 
> Period!
> 
> Not just for the community and thescene, but for yourself
> as well!  PLEASE STOP F*CKING WITH GHB!!!!
> 
> So, because of irresponsibility, a party that was supposed
> to go on until 7am could only go until 6am!  Now, a young
> man who could've been somebody is now gone... forever.
> 
> Doesn't that mean anything to you?
> 
> I hope so.
> 
> Think.
> 
> GHB kills!
> 
> -Chocolate
> 


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 04:07:45 2000
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... I can back to Chicago from Columbus to go to this party... we show up 
and end up right SMACK in the middle of the tent riot... as soon as the 
lights go out everyone goes into hysterics. We were pushed up against the 
wall of the tent and all of the sudden it tears down, and everyone goes 
flooding out... but MOST noteworthy outside of the venue was the BEATINGS 
that I hope some of you saw.  These cops FLOORED a bunch of CaNdYKydZ, 
laughin while they were jamming nightsticks into their stomachs... that was 
some fucked up shit.  Other than that, after i finally got in i had a 
ball... Richie played a good set (until it got all housey towards the end, 
imho)... ahh well. rave on.
-marauder

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> > > > Subject: gas out/don't buy gas 4/7 to 4/9

damnit!! i have to drive to columbus that day... i cant make it there and 
back on one tank... they will have to reschedule  ;-)

peace-
chad

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frankly i agree theres nothing at all funny for to about being grammar 
ungood, spileng. or punctuation,

> > There's nothing funny about bad grammer, spelling, and
> > punctuation!
> >
> > --Will
> >
>

>put the crackpipe down.
>
>this is not a grammar/spellcheck list. please advise.
>
>lauryn
>
pick up the crystal


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I went and saw Kids in the Hall in Rosemont, IL.  Fucking amazing.  I
was laughing very hard through the entire show.

Anyone in Detroit should be seeing this show tonight or definately go
tomorrow.  Unless it's sold out, in which case you're fucked.

-- 

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if anyone could help me out plz e-mail me privately

thanks =)
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Subject: ICONOCLAST Presents:  LOST SIGHT  Friday April 7, 2000  Lexington
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ICONOCLAST Productions brings forth:
LOST SIGHT       April 7, 2000      Lexington, Kentucky

Many of us have lost sight of the reason we go to "raves!" How fitting to 
name a rave "LOST SIGHT." Today we go to huge “raves” that are so far 
removed from the original “raves” so many of us remember. The goal of 
ICONOCLAST is to bring these intimate gatherings of a few hundred people to 
the surface once again. A place where different individuals can safely enjoy 
the music we all love, and at the same time avoid illegal substances, while 
meeting new individuals like you. Let these DJs take you on a natural high 
and make it possible for you to regain and realize the reason we all started 
going to raves in the first place... THE MUSIC!

DJS:
Simpleton                                 (Dallas, TX)      Jungle
-tagging with-
Charles Cromer       ICONOCLAST           (LEX)             Jungle
DJ Tsar              Entice/K Krew        (LEX/Russia)      Trance
Julian Ross     Strictly Live/ICONOCLAST  (CHICAGO/LEX)     Ghetto
Jason Shelton        FUNKWAGON            (LEX)        Hard/Ghetto
Brandon Robinette    ICONOCLAST           (LEX)              House

***Plus a surprise DJ or tag team to be announced the night of the event!***

Tickets:   only $5 @ the door
Info:  1-877-660-3960   -ICONOCLAST Productions
This is a 21+ event and only a 200-person limit due to the intimate nature 
of the event so arrive early or earlier then normal. There will be no 
tagging the venue, drugs, disrespect, or any type of illegal behavior 
tolerated.  Come and enjoy the music and meet some new people at the same 
time in a safe environment.

Much thanks and respect to everyone, especially our families and friends, 
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  Arriving around 10:00, parked around back. Walked up to the entry tent and 
after being there about 15 minutes, was sucked into a mass of people 
entering some ill begotten hole in the tent. Spent another 15 minutes in a 
holding tank while some individual standing on a table was trying to get 
people to yell things and do the wave or some shit(who can say in this day 
and age what really is happening).. anyhow, got into the venue.. I have been 
here many many times and always have had good experiences so, My review on 
this venue might be biased.. Outside of the firehazards between the rooms, I 
was quite content, even in the miNus room where the heat was tropical like.. 
I thought it all went together fine..As for police brutality and riots.. I 
really didnt experience anything too off the wall(so quit telling me about 
it, cause you are tainting my image of a perfect night for me)..
   Anyhow, listened to the pauls tag it out, and then proceeded to the miNus 
room, to prepare for my night.. John started off with an odd selection, and 
played some seriously over clubby records before landing into his groove and 
grabbing the minds of all the kids.. Mesmorizing.. Thought provoking.. the 
last 20 minutes were what its all about... then the whole reason I went to 
LOTD3 started working.. What can I say.. RELENTLESS...He pounded on us, and 
when I heckled for more, he delivered.. This is when I noticed the loss of 
innocence.. When you first start going to parties, esp. if you start with 
house parties.. you really dont pay as much attention to the music as you 
dancing to the music.. You don't really think about it as much.. You just 
dance with purity and innocence.. Then you experience Hawtin or Juan atkins, 
or John, and it opens your mind.. when you go.. you think, it provokes 
thought.. You lose that innocence, you notice every beat, and every sound 
creates deeper thought..I goto see hawtin and see him work, to watch him.. 
he is always moving, always busy, pushing his art.. pushing us to think, not 
to just dance and hear sounds, but to inspire..
  I look at parties and see how people merge into it, and then merge out, 
and then again.. People complain that parties that are underground and 
better, but I say let every come.. When we are all in one room, and there 
are jocks who are drunk, and whatever else.. They
will listen to hawtin, but they wont ever have what I/We have when hear it..
   Sounds all emotional and shit, but i know what I like, and when you enjoy 
something, you grow attached to it, and want to learn more..
I am sure some people understand..
  For those that don't.. Ritchie Hawtin is unbelievable..

             My night was excellent, thought about these strange number 
occurences that have been happening to me, I thought about being 6 years old 
again, and hearing the ringing of an ice cream truck in the distance. I 
thought about the people in my life, and I thought about people I wish were 
in my life. I counted faces, and painted pictures in my mind, and forgot 
about everything that wasnt important...
                      Love to all,
                          Dan Sharp (0_o)
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Sorry for bothering you Mr.Johnson but, I want to just say that You always 
amaze us here in Chicago. You and Derek Carter are our golden boys, That's 
very obvious But, I need to say that all of the people from out of town who 
couldn't get in and had such a horrible time and had to stand in line for 
hours needed to remember that they were coming to one of the biggest party 
cities in the country with a mountain of famous D.J.'s and a thousands of 
Chicagoans who will be there reguardless of the line up, Not to mention It's 
a beautiful Saturday night and you know how the weather affects people's 
decision to go out. Why would they even attempt to come here? Why would they 
even think they would get in? And even if they did, Why the hell do they have 
to talk shit about the City it self. The fucking City didn't do anything to 
them. Next time they should put two and two together and Stay the fuck home 
IDIOTS--.JACKASSES--.STUPID FUCKS. I'm sorry Paul, I know you don't know me 
but, I needed to vent to someone. I love you Man. Keep Chicago world wide for 
us as you do so well.                                                           
                                        BANGMANW

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 07:24:02 2000
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I have no opinions about such things, Though I am sorry for the people who 
prepaid and couldn't get in. Damn that's fucked up.....Paul J.....

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 08:13:50 2000
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Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/27/0 7:20:14 AM, dpayer wrote:
>
> <<Begin flame:
> Dear:
> [ ] Clueless Newbie [X] Lamer [X] AOLer
> [ ] Me too er [ ] Pervert [X] Loser>>
>
> this prejudice you have against AOL'ers is very unbecoming
> doris...being on AOL does not automatically equate lamer or
> loser...do you realize how many people are on AOL?...including:
> paul johnson, scott henry, terry mullan, many many more
> that are from being lame or a loser just for using AOL.

Not everyone on AOL is an idiot, but the average intelligence
on AOL is quite a bit lower than the rest of the net.  I remember
being online back in 94 or 95 when AOL users first got access
to the main Internet.  The average intelligence level of the entire
net, including both chat areas and message boards and Usenet
dropped significantly and visibly as soon as the 'net was flooded
by AOL users.  This led to AOL being dubbed 'Army of Lamers',
etc.



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 13:57:13 2000
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In a message dated 2/28/00 3:42:21 AM !!!First Boot!!!, allah@metalab.unc.edu 
writes:

> Peace.  Its because of this lackadaisakal, carefree, apathetic attitude
>  that drugs are "okay" and if you say something about it, they are being
>  "disrespectful".  

Yeah....

Whatev....


Peace.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 14:38:44 2000
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Well I mainly thought I'd get in cause I HAD FUCKIN PRESALES..  And when I
said "fuck chicago", it was aimed at the parties, not the city..  i love
the city, just not hte wasteing $36+ dollars to drive that far and waitn
in line.  BUt from talking to people in line it sounds like I've had some
bad luck pciking out parties to attend.  Maybe I'll try a smaller party
next..  I just really wanted to see hawton...  I guess there's next time.

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> Sorry for bothering you Mr.Johnson but, I want to just say that You always 
> amaze us here in Chicago. You and Derek Carter are our golden boys, That's 
> very obvious But, I need to say that all of the people from out of town who 
> couldn't get in and had such a horrible time and had to stand in line for 
> hours needed to remember that they were coming to one of the biggest party 
> cities in the country with a mountain of famous D.J.'s and a thousands of 
> Chicagoans who will be there reguardless of the line up, Not to mention It's 
> a beautiful Saturday night and you know how the weather affects people's 
> decision to go out. Why would they even attempt to come here? Why would they 
> even think they would get in? And even if they did, Why the hell do they have 
> to talk shit about the City it self. The fucking City didn't do anything to 
> them. Next time they should put two and two together and Stay the fuck home 
> IDIOTS--.JACKASSES--.STUPID FUCKS. I'm sorry Paul, I know you don't know me 
> but, I needed to vent to someone. I love you Man. Keep Chicago world wide for 
> us as you do so well.                                                           
>                                         BANGMANW
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 14:39:41 2000
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Taking a 2nd look @ the Boogie Tribe web site
(http://www.boogietribe.com/main/main.htm) , I find it ironic that a portion
of the proceeds of LOTD3 will go to the "Hugs n Kisses Foundation for Child
Abuse Awareness", considering the lack of that "hugs and kisses" feeling
that surrounded the event.  I don't think anyone that witnessed the
brutality going on just outside the front door as anything other than
abusive.

I hope the foundation reconsiders accepting this donation, considering the
lack of respect given to at least some of the people in attendance (if you
consider standing in line attendance).

Does anyone have contact information for this foundation?  They have no
internet presence, at least not one that I was able to find.

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><< I wanna hear everyone's everything about the no backpacks, cameras,
candy,
> vicks, masks, etc.. >>
>
>BOUT GODDAMN TIME
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and this just rocks:

"This isn't a motherfucking babysitter's club." --> security to some 
chik 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 15:58:51 2000
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The kids will never learn. 

As long as they survive each and everytime ...they will keep using GHB or 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 16:35:31 2000
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whatever you crack-smoking asshole, you're still trying to dodge responding
to the fact that:

***YOU BEG FOR PITY & BRAG FOR EGO TO A FUCKING MAIL LIST***

so, whichever way you'd like to interpret the logic, you remain a sad
fucker...a la pathetic self-absorbed loser.  Plus, word is goin 'round that
you're gay.

..."the great" gregori


Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/25/0 3:57:46 PM, gsparker wrote:
>
> <<do the math fuck-hole: [full of oneself] + [loser] = [pathetic
> self-absorbed loser]>>
>
> actually, full of oneself + loser = full of oneself + loser  OR
> loser + full of oneself, HOWEVER full of oneself + loser DOES
> NOT always = pathetic self absorbed loser...common freshman
> high school logic, another subject you obviously failed at
>
> << Anyone who has ever defended you on this list has retracted
> it in one form or another later on.  Nobody sees you as the rave-
> creator you claim to be. Nobody sees you as the stud you seem to
> think you are.  I've read more posts about people wanting to pee
> on you than I have in support for you.>>
>
> wrong, the only person who posted that he regretted defending
> me at one point was Jerry (but this was only after being influenced
> by one of your highly falsified posts which you are now infamous
> for)...again, you are attempting to speak for the entire list attesting
> to your super inflated ego problem....I never claimed to be the rave
> creator...however, this is a perfect example of how you have to
> resort to out right lies to cover for your insecurities..."nobody
> sees you as the stud as you see you are"...Another example of
> you trying to speak for the entire list and your over inflated
> ego...even giving yourself godlike qualities as to tell exactly
> what i am thinking..."i've read more posts about people wanting
> to pee on you"...Another lie, there has never been a post about
> any one wanting to pee on me, however i did joke that a rave
> girl once asked jon gotti if she could see his liquid and he peed
> on her...however seeing your flaws with logic and your overly
> evident colossaly inflated ego i can see how some one with so
> many mental problems can easily misconscrue this...alas, there
> are paid professionals that can assist you with these problems
> ...just refrain in spreading your disease to the rest of the list,
> but i'm sure any listee in the right frame of my mind would
> clearly avoid being anything like some one who calls himself
> "the great gregori"...puhleeeease!!!...the only thing great about
> you is your ego.
>
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In a message dated 2/27/0 1:46:19 AM, trancedanz wrote:

<<i laugh at you...

you suck>>

no man, i laugh at you cuz you suck.

if victor really wanted you to call him,
he would have given you the proper contact
info.

but seein as how you came on promoting
putting drugs in unsuspecting girls drinks,
i would avoid you like a fiend too...


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In a message dated 2/28/0 4:35:44 PM, the geek gregori wrote:

<<so, whichever way you'd like to interpret the logic, you remain a sad
fucker...a la pathetic self-absorbed loser.  Plus, word is goin 'round that
you're gay.

..."the great" gregori>>

you truly are pathetic and a waste of my time.

yeah, the gay rumor was probably started by you as a sorry
attempt to make yourself feel better cuz you're such a sorry
gimp...too bad everybody knows it & you are complete bullshit.

perhaps in the next life, you'll fair better...


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 17:39:08 2000
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kay. maybe i'm wrong here, but i don't think so.

>if victor really wanted you to call him,
>he would have given you the proper contact
>info.
so, the point of you replying to his original mail at all is nonexistant,
right? the only reason you did so was to name drop, right? right.

>but seein as how you came on promoting
>putting drugs in unsuspecting girls drinks,
>i would avoid you like a fiend too...
and, now, this is the second time you've brought this up.. hopefully it
will be the second time it is disregarded..  maybe there should be a
campaign... ignore steviet and hope he goes away.. whats an extra line in
your sig, right?

--
ignore steviet!  help save the youth of america!
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 19:12:16 2000
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you are completely full to the brim with shit.  how do you breathe???
seriously; you can blather what you wish, but you're not fooling anybody.

And you cannot call me a waste of your time.  You have enough time to whine
about how the white man is out to get you and how the fbi has your phone line
tapped and how radicals are burning down dorm rooms around you because of what
you post to the list...not to mention time to respond to single line posts
about how you know all, and somebody else knows nothing...not to mention time
to post your irc 'conversations' with 'girls', trying to act like a little
mac...not to mention time to compose the 100 line posts where you claim to be
the oldest schooliest midwest rave creator...not to mention time to infer that
you have attained secret enlightenment and are a tool of god, holding destiny's
secrets to which the rest of us can only feebly guess at.  As a matter of fact
steviet, it seems all you have is time...and nothing, not even I, could waste
that for ya.

...gregori


Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> yeah, the gay rumor was probably started by you as a sorry
> attempt to make yourself feel better cuz you're such a sorry
> gimp...too bad everybody knows it & you are complete bullshit


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Saturday - March 4

Central Illinois Alliance presents...

"Absinthe"

10 p.m. - 5 a.m.

$5 at the door
18 to enter
21 to drink
(ID Required)

Featuring DJ's...

Matt Positive
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York
Web
Zeek

Located @ The Gallery
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Hope to see you there!

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 20:16:38 2000
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ya know, if i wanted to hear a couple of clowns blowin bullshite out of 
their asses i would have subscribed to presidentialdebates@hotair.org.

take yer grandstanding to a chatroom, or just kiss and make up.  it's 
obvious that your feelings for each other run a little deeper than some of 
the people on this list are interested in knowing about.  now, now *points 
finger* you boys be nice




>From: gregori <gsparker@parkerresearch.com>
>Reply-To: gregori <gsparker@parkerresearch.com>
>To: mwrvz <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] I pity da foo (wuz: Pissed Off Asian Dude / Pissed off 
>	Asian Grrrl)
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:11:22 -0500
>
>you are completely full to the brim with shit.  how do you breathe???
>seriously; you can blather what you wish, but you're not fooling anybody.
>
>And you cannot call me a waste of your time.  You have enough time to whine
>about how the white man is out to get you and how the fbi has your phone 
>line
>tapped and how radicals are burning down dorm rooms around you because of 
>what
>you post to the list...not to mention time to respond to single line posts
>about how you know all, and somebody else knows nothing...not to mention 
>time
>to post your irc 'conversations' with 'girls', trying to act like a little
>mac...not to mention time to compose the 100 line posts where you claim to 
>be
>the oldest schooliest midwest rave creator...not to mention time to infer 
>that
>you have attained secret enlightenment and are a tool of god, holding 
>destiny's
>secrets to which the rest of us can only feebly guess at.  As a matter of 
>fact
>steviet, it seems all you have is time...and nothing, not even I, could 
>waste
>that for ya.
>
>...gregori
>
>
>Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
>
> > yeah, the gay rumor was probably started by you as a sorry
> > attempt to make yourself feel better cuz you're such a sorry
> > gimp...too bad everybody knows it & you are complete bullshit
>
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 20:30:18 2000
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dude... what the hell do you want??? Boogie Tribe to hug every one of the 
6000 attendees on their way in??? Security to pass out lollipops to the kids 
about to start rioting in a dark tent??? When you're dealing with a 
crowd/party of that size, hugs and kisses go out the window, and you have to 
keep the party UNDER CONTROL... worrying about if the ravers feel LOVED by 
the promoters is a second (or maybe fifth) priority...

-ross

>Abuse Awareness", considering the lack of that "hugs and kisses" feeling
>that surrounded the event.  I don't think anyone that witnessed the
>brutality going on just outside the front door as anything other than
>abusive.
>
>I hope the foundation reconsiders accepting this donation, considering the
>lack of respect given to at least some of the people in attendance (if you
>consider standing in line attendance).
>
>Does anyone have contact information for this foundation?  They have no
>internet presence, at least not one that I was able to find.
>
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I expect them to own up to the responsibility that they took on when
throwing a party...that doesn't have anything to do with giving anyone
lollipops but it does have a lot to do with keeping flashlights out of
people's teeth and insides.

I was in line from shortly after 8pm until just before midnight when I was
let in.  The wet crowd tried its best to keep in good spirits, giving out
the candy they brought that they were told they couldn't bring in and
sharing plastic bags to keep many people for he most part dry.  PLUR was
very much alive.  But a responsible oragaization would have noticed that
leaving a crowd of people outside for up to 7 hours (i spoke with someone
that was let injust ahead of me that was in line, got to the front, had a
camera, didn't know they weren't letting cameras in, and had to join the END
of the line) and giving no explanation to the delays was just asking for
trouble.

-t

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Wolinsky [mailto:riotnerd28@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:30 PM
To: tonysebion@tensionboy.com; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [mw] more LOTD3


dude... what the hell do you want??? Boogie Tribe to hug every one of the 
6000 attendees on their way in??? Security to pass out lollipops to the kids

about to start rioting in a dark tent??? When you're dealing with a 
crowd/party of that size, hugs and kisses go out the window, and you have to

keep the party UNDER CONTROL... worrying about if the ravers feel LOVED by 
the promoters is a second (or maybe fifth) priority...

-ross

>Abuse Awareness", considering the lack of that "hugs and kisses" feeling
>that surrounded the event.  I don't think anyone that witnessed the
>brutality going on just outside the front door as anything other than
>abusive.
>
>I hope the foundation reconsiders accepting this donation, considering the
>lack of respect given to at least some of the people in attendance (if you
>consider standing in line attendance).
>
>Does anyone have contact information for this foundation?  They have no
>internet presence, at least not one that I was able to find.
>
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Boogie Knights Invite you to our First Birthday Party
COSMIC BOOGIE JAM
March 25 2000
St. Louis, MO
To be held at a 100% clean legal virgin venue 
Info: 314-567-2041 
URL: www.boogieknights.net
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Only $15!

MODA - First St. Louis appearance EVER!
       Trancefusion, San Fran. Trance. 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 20:49:29 2000
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For those of you who remember me, or care, I am coming back.

I got fed up with everything for mostly stupid reasons back this summer,
and quit going to parties, dropped the list, tried to start the DIY thing,
got fed up with my own lack of resources and time, and decided to leave
civilization for the wilderness of college parties and bars. 

However, after months of sitting in my apartment breaking to various
shades of jungle, and then going to parties and waiting for an hour to
hear a single song that I dont even like but had a beat structure
compatible with my style, I decided that this was all a fairly poor
excursion.

Actually, this all proved to be a really really dumb idea. 

So if anyone wants to help me get back on the floor, I have a few
questions:

-What has happened in general to the MW scene since about June? Please be
blunt and honest

-What do you think about the Year of the Dragon in Indy, or The
Abstraktions party in Cinci this weekend, the promoters, the expected
vibe, atmosphere, etcetra (be honest)

I am planning to go to the Year of the Dragon, the idea of the lines kind
of scares me, I am a small party guy...but Harfloor and ISS I find hard to
argue with. Looks fun overall.

Finally, I guess the point of all this is dont be negative, enjoy life, if
you dont like things be vocal but dont constantly whine, and above all, if
you like to dance DO NOT give up on the scene, because you will realize
how good you actually had it. I made a mistake and was sentenced to 6
months of having to dance by myself for it.

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Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
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 Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears.. You
goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some heat
and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt yer
mother ever tell you something about if you cant say
something nice, not to say it at all??

  This party went off, it went off rather well.. Take
this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
there either than just shut up, and be happy that you
are alive unscathed... 
   
   I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
shit happens.. 

   I guess my final word for all those that didnt get
in, is this..

    I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!

                        Much love,
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After reading many reviews (both here and elsewhere) of Live on the Decks
3, I'm aware of several allegations, including:

1) Security and/or police beating attendees

2) Security using force to rob someone of their money

3) An innocent partygoer getting bitten by a police dog

4) Security verbally abusing and harassing innocent attendees

5) A truck, supposedly connected in some way to the promoters, being driven
straight into a crowd of people

Many of the reviews essentially read like this:

"Well, a bunch of people got beat up, and security was abusive, but other
than that I had a good time."

I don't get it... how can anyone have a good time under those conditions?
Why aren't more people taking a stand and saying, "This is unacceptable"?
Doesn't anybody care?

*If* these allegations are true (I'm not making any accusations), I hope
the people responsible are hauled into court and held accountable. And if
anything similar happens here in Indianapolis, no more raves for me. 

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 21:13:33 2000
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There's no wimpering here - there was definitely some worth to the lineup
and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't separated from your friends due
to some of them not being able to get in because the lines were ridiculous
or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel unfeeling person probably
could block most of that uglyness out of their mind.

If this is the kind of party you'd consider a success, IMHO, your standards
are very low.

-t
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 Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears.. You
goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some heat
and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt yer
mother ever tell you something about if you cant say
something nice, not to say it at all??

  This party went off, it went off rather well.. Take
this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
there either than just shut up, and be happy that you
are alive unscathed... 
   
   I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
shit happens.. 

   I guess my final word for all those that didnt get
in, is this..

    I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!

                        Much love,
                            Dan Sharp (0_o)
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>Saturday - March 4
>
>Central Illinois Alliance presents...
>
>"Absinthe"
>
>10 p.m. - 5 a.m.
>
>$5 at the door
>18 to enter
>21 to drink
>(ID Required)
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okay, so will the green liquor of the gods be served. i bet not...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 21:16:54 2000
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My roommate just bought a 3000GT in Dallas and now I'm flying with him on
Saturday morning to drive it back to Minneapolis.  This means I'll be
somewhere in the middle of the Midwest (Kansas City? Omaha? Des Moines?)
on Saturday night.

So, of course, I'm looking for something fun and exciting to do on
Saturday night, and I'm wondering if any of you could help me out.

That is all.  Thanks.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 22:08:09 2000
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went to see elliott smith play a sold out show at he empty bottle with
derek....it was awesome!! emo's not usually my thing but i totally dug
it, just elliott with his guitar on stage, singin away...he played angelus
and say yes and rose parade and happiness and last call and son of sam.
and some others i'm forgetting. i drank a vanilla stoli and coke and an
amaretto stone sour (we did a couple mind erasers before we left the
house). it was a great saturday night!

oh yeah, i got to see hawtin play for a little while too. photon was
hotter than i remembered it being. i had to tie up my tank top all white
trash knotted on the side stylee. jason111 gave me a slug off his flask of
whiskey. i saw lots of poeple, and then i went home and went to sleep.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 23:18:19 2000
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, jes wrote:
> emo's not usually my thing but i totally dug it

Haha!  We'll slowly convert you to the dark side!  You'll be listening to
Jawbreaker, Promise Ring and Texas is the Reason before you know what hit
you!

> jason111 gave me a slug off his flask of whiskey.

But alcohol and raving don't mix!  :P

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> From: "Chuck S" <STEINER138@webtv.net>
> 
>     Just somethin I noticed in todays DETROIT NEWS(page 7A) Thought ya
> might want ta read it.  HAVE A NICE DAY =)  CHUCK



if any of you are curious as to what the article said (which was nothing
new, sounded to me like *yet another* rehash of any other rave story that
has appeared in any other newspaper), it can be found at
http://www.detroitnews.com/specialreports/2000/dare/28raves/28raves.htm

rave on guys, and remember, you're safe, the police doesn't find it worth
their time.  


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my standards are high, and i thought this party went off splendidly... once 
actually getting INSIDE, despite high temperatures and a crowded venue, the 
majority of the place was dancing all night... the fact is that when you go 
to a rave, there are NEVER GUARANTEES.  Take Louisville a few weeks ago... i 
came out from Columbus to attend that event and didn't get to see richie 
play... shit happens... its a rave, the police don't like us, and there is 
never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee.  If you attended LOTD2 
last year, you should have known what to expect, and if you don't like what 
you should have expected, then you shouldn't have attended the event... 
simple as that.

-ross


>From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:12:49 -0600
>
>There's no wimpering here - there was definitely some worth to the lineup
>and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't separated from your friends due
>to some of them not being able to get in because the lines were ridiculous
>or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel unfeeling person 
>probably
>could block most of that uglyness out of their mind.
>
>If this is the kind of party you'd consider a success, IMHO, your standards
>are very low.
>
>-t
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM
>To: Tony Sebion; 'Ross Wolinsky'
>Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
>Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>
>
>
>  Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears.. You
>goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some heat
>and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt yer
>mother ever tell you something about if you cant say
>something nice, not to say it at all??
>
>   This party went off, it went off rather well.. Take
>this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
>there either than just shut up, and be happy that you
>are alive unscathed...
>
>    I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
>shit happens..
>
>    I guess my final word for all those that didnt get
>in, is this..
>
>     I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!
>
>                         Much love,
>                             Dan Sharp (0_o)
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JAWBREAKER!!! I just got an mp3 copy of Dear You after looking for it for 
ages... its out of print and impossible to find because nobody in their 
RIGHT MIND would sell their copy... thank god for napster. :)

-ross


>From: atomly <atomly@atomly.com>
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>To: midwest bullshit <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [mw] saturday night cr/action
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:13:01 -0600 (CST)
>
>On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, jes wrote:
> > emo's not usually my thing but i totally dug it
>
>Haha!  We'll slowly convert you to the dark side!  You'll be listening to
>Jawbreaker, Promise Ring and Texas is the Reason before you know what hit
>you!
>
> > jason111 gave me a slug off his flask of whiskey.
>
>But alcohol and raving don't mix!  :P
>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 28 23:44:32 2000
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this is my opinion on aol. i have aol because *a* i'm too cheap to pay for my 
own internet source because *b* my parents pay for aol. my parents are 
negative computer intelligence level. yep. i'm a stupid kid who uses aol.

sarah.

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hey gabe

twotigers_prod@hotmail.com

hey steve, you're number one, buddy.

pixie


:<<any1 have there email addy?>>
:
:yeah, i do...but i sure as hell am not givin it to you...i just did 
:shots w/ victor @ red zone last week actually...plus i'm sure
:he would want nothing to do with you when you were promoting
:putting drugs in girls drinks on mw-raves...
:
:are we seeing how it works yet kiddies?...you talk shit bout the
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 00:09:03 2000
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when a party gets shut down, the people putting it on may or may not have
had control over the situation and without studying the circumstances, its
hard to put the blame on anyone automatically.  however, i think getting
your ass kicked by a security guard just because you're an unwilling
participant in a mob is on a whole other level than not getting to see a
certian DJ play.

you're right - i wasn't at LOTD2, but after my experience saturday evening
that's probably the last boogie tribe event i go to, and its definitely the
last boogie tribe event i buy presales for.  without a doubt, "buyer beware"

we absolutely do have different standards.  how about we agree to disagree
and drop this thread?

-t

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP


my standards are high, and i thought this party went off splendidly... once 
actually getting INSIDE, despite high temperatures and a crowded venue, the 
majority of the place was dancing all night... the fact is that when you go 
to a rave, there are NEVER GUARANTEES.  Take Louisville a few weeks ago... i

came out from Columbus to attend that event and didn't get to see richie 
play... shit happens... its a rave, the police don't like us, and there is 
never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee.  If you attended LOTD2 
last year, you should have known what to expect, and if you don't like what 
you should have expected, then you shouldn't have attended the event... 
simple as that.

-ross


>From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:12:49 -0600
>
>There's no wimpering here - there was definitely some worth to the lineup
>and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't separated from your friends due
>to some of them not being able to get in because the lines were ridiculous
>or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel unfeeling person 
>probably
>could block most of that uglyness out of their mind.
>
>If this is the kind of party you'd consider a success, IMHO, your standards
>are very low.
>
>-t
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM
>To: Tony Sebion; 'Ross Wolinsky'
>Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
>Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>
>
>
>  Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears.. You
>goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some heat
>and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt yer
>mother ever tell you something about if you cant say
>something nice, not to say it at all??
>
>   This party went off, it went off rather well.. Take
>this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
>there either than just shut up, and be happy that you
>are alive unscathed...
>
>    I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
>shit happens..
>
>    I guess my final word for all those that didnt get
>in, is this..
>
>     I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!
>
>                         Much love,
>                             Dan Sharp (0_o)
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Just grabbed this one from KC-Raves...

I dunno...  I think i did it last year....

I didn't think it worked but I guess it did, according to my mom.

Here ya go!

-Chocolate
-----------------------------------------------
Subject: Gas out 2000

Last year on April 30,1999, a gas out was staged across America to bring the 
price of gas down, and it worked.  It's time to do something about it again. 
  Only this time lets make it for three days instead of
just one.

The so-called oil cartel decided to slow production to drive up gasoline 
prices.  Lets see how many American people we can get to ban together for a 
three day period in April, NOT TO BUY ANY GASOLINE, during those three days.

LETS HAVE A GAS OUT.  Do not buy any gasoline from APRIL 7, 2000, THROUGH 
APRIL 9, 2000.  Buy what you need before the dates listed above, or after, 
but try not to buy any during the GAS OUT.

If you want to help, just send this to everyone you know and ask them to do 
the same.  We brought the prices down once before, and we can do it again.  
Come on America lets stand together.  WE CAN MAKE A 
DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Heretic!!!

The streets shall flow with the blood of the unbelievers!!!!!

    -bill

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> But alcohol and raving don't mix!  :P
> 
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Boogie Knights & Kindred Groove present

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"Shit Happens" is no excuse for abusiveness and I
think that there is a guarantee (in the minds of those
attending, at least) that they aren't going to get the
shit kicked out of them at a rave for no reason.  If
you're just going to excuse irresponsible behavior on
the part of the promoters, then you'll have no reason
to be upset if security kicks your ass and steals your
wallet at the next party you attend.

--Will

--- Ross Wolinsky <riotnerd28@hotmail.com> wrote:
> my standards are high, and i thought this party went
> off splendidly... once 
> actually getting INSIDE, despite high temperatures
> and a crowded venue, the 
> majority of the place was dancing all night... the
> fact is that when you go 
> to a rave, there are NEVER GUARANTEES.  Take
> Louisville a few weeks ago... i 
> came out from Columbus to attend that event and
> didn't get to see richie 
> play... shit happens... its a rave, the police don't
> like us, and there is 
> never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee. 
> If you attended LOTD2 
> last year, you should have known what to expect, and
> if you don't like what 
> you should have expected, then you shouldn't have
> attended the event... 
> simple as that.
> 
> -ross
> 
> 
> >From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> >Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> >To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'"
> <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:12:49 -0600
> >
> >There's no wimpering here - there was definitely
> some worth to the lineup
> >and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't
> separated from your friends due
> >to some of them not being able to get in because
> the lines were ridiculous
> >or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel
> unfeeling person 
> >probably
> >could block most of that uglyness out of their
> mind.
> >
> >If this is the kind of party you'd consider a
> success, IMHO, your standards
> >are very low.
> >
> >-t
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@yahoo.com]
> >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM
> >To: Tony Sebion; 'Ross Wolinsky'
> >Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
> >Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> >
> >
> >
> >  Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears..
> You
> >goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some
> heat
> >and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt
> yer
> >mother ever tell you something about if you cant
> say
> >something nice, not to say it at all??
> >
> >   This party went off, it went off rather well..
> Take
> >this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
> >there either than just shut up, and be happy that
> you
> >are alive unscathed...
> >
> >    I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
> >shit happens..
> >
> >    I guess my final word for all those that didnt
> get
> >in, is this..
> >
> >     I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!
> >
> >                         Much love,
> >                             Dan Sharp (0_o)
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: Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears.. You
:goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some heat
:and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt yer
:mother ever tell you something about if you cant say
:something nice, not to say it at all??
:
:  This party went off, it went off rather well..

I don't think a party goes off well when the party is successful but people
with presales couldn't get in. Just my opinion...but that really doesn't
seem right.

I gotta wonder for those kids...will they get their money back? How about
travel expenses? Going without a ticket is one thing, but when you buy a
presale, and the party, as you said "went off, it went off rather well" then
those kids deserve some compensation for that. One would hope that Boogie
Tribe would feel obligated to do something for them...the question is, will
they?

Anyway, I'd be raising my voice pretty loudly if that happened to moi,
although not at a city, but at the promoters themselves.

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AOL bashing is how you put someone down if you can't
come up with a legitimate critism.

Keeping in mind that most see the internet as the
final frontier of unregulated freedom, I'm always
surprised that people think that that freedom doesn't
apply to those who don't meet certain criteria.  AOL
provides a service to those who want to use the net
but could care less about learning to deal with a *nix
shell.

I used to used AOL, and while I don't claim to be some
ultra 3133t h@x0r, I'm certainly not clueless with
regards to computing.  I was young and couldn't afford
to pay for an ISP.  My parents had AOL and so I used
it.

Forever labeled a "lamer,"
Will

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> this is my opinion on aol. i have aol because *a*
> i'm too cheap to pay for my 
> own internet source because *b* my parents pay for
> aol. my parents are 
> negative computer intelligence level. yep. i'm a
> stupid kid who uses aol.
> 
> sarah.
> 
> << Not everyone on AOL is an idiot, but the average
> intelligence
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DiscoDisciples d'Amour 
proudly presents

  M i C R O C O S M 
A little Sum'in Sum'in
        version 1.0

Featuring 

DJ MODA - Trancefussion - SanFran
Having grown up with Christopher Lawrence, Moda
and Chris became a part of the trance legion as 
early as 1991.  Since then, MODA has continued 
to influence the West Coast Trance scene with his
mix CDs, productions, and events!  Tonight, he 
comes to his first appearance in Indianapolis to 
warp perceptions and bend wills!  

OH! DONOVAN (AKA Sean Patrick) - Ireland -
How sweet it is!  Sean Patrick has devest8ed 
dancefloors throughout Great Brittain with his
harder-than-mosttrance sets.  Another first
for Indy, Sean will top the night off correct!

XiAN (The X-Man) - CBS - Cincy
A mixture of house and techno, Xian has been 
DJing for years!  This jock knows jack... and so 
will you!

2 x 4 marathon

BLAIR BROWN / CHOCOLATE (The Freaky AfroNaut)
Playing CONTINUOUSLY on 4 turntables, Chocolate
and Blair "Eclair" Brown will be debutting this techno
assault of the senses!  You won't want to miss this!

K-STEP / danDAVE
Also continuously on 4 turntables, K-Step will be
accentuating danDave'sdark tech-step with his own
step/jump-up!  Plus, add both of these kids' amazing
technical proficiency in tricknology, and you'll have
a jungle eXperience to DIE for!

Also featuring the Log2 Sound System DJs:
ADAM ABSTRAKT  &  DEMENTIA
Adam's hard-house ala BAM BAM, DJ IRENE, and
TONY B!, is making waves throughout Indy, 
Chicago, and Detroit.  March 24th will be another
example of him tearing shit up!  Dementia
played originally for The Indpls Alliance at
NuSkoolScience and set the mood for a killer
night!  Trance of the highest order, Demenia's
set will mesmerize you!  

   M i C R O C O S M 
A Little Sum'in Sum'in
         version 1.0

You'll love this high-vibed party!  Dress up
in Disco Gear (tm) and receive a discount 
at the door.  DiscoGear (tm) includes 
bell bottoms (not Pacific Sunwear flares, ladies),
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$10
$5 with DiscoGear (tm)

Please contact the DiscoHotLine 

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Your guest list (or vendor requests) will be 
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confirmation from us for vending or guest
list, then your request was denied!  But,
damn, yaw'll -- It's only $5 with DiscoGear(tm)!!!

MiCROCOSM (version 2.0) is set for 
Friday, April 14th, with UNDERGROUND
CONSTRUCTION's hard house legend
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Please contact the DiscoHotLine 

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ALSO, DON"T FORGET!!!!

The PLEASURE DOME is March 18th
with the PANTY RAID pre-party March 17th!

Brought-to-you by Sista Jade Entertainment
and the House of Babylon BROductions of 
Indpls!

Disco Rules!

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> Jawbreaker, Promise Ring and Texas is the Reason before you know what hit

ewwwwww. emo = morrisey trying to do punk music. whine whine whine.

gag me with a spoon.
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i paste here an article from "the detroit news" (& web-site). very 
superficial, short, alarmist (but realistic) cover. nothing compared to the 
british press feast though. apparently, there is a wave of od's and deaths 
related to ghb in the us.

at "live on the decks 3" (last saturday, chicago), i had to help a kid who 
was convulsing. he would repeat in acute despair "i am so fucked up... help 
me...". he had mixed lsd, vodka, and coke... a friend showed up when saw me 
carrying the guy. he was "fucked up" as well, though not as much. geezas...

i recently asked a german researcher on the berlin rave scene why he didn't 
mention the mdma-experience in one of his basic articles. he told me his 
choice was strategic, although empirically oriented. mdma is not exclusive 
to the rave scene but crosses different youth subcultures.
moreover, he wanted to avoid the german polemics on the matter, which reads 
the rise of mdma as a sign of "decadence" of a rave scene. i dont subscribe 
this view, but makes me wonder...

roszak's words could be purposeful here. from "the making of a 
counterculture", he said in 1968, again repeating in 1995:


"Perhaps the drug experience bears significant fruit when rooted in the 
soil of a mature and cultivated mind. But there are minds too small and too 
young for such psychic adventures - and the failure to recognize this fact 
is the beginning of disaster." (Roszak)



love yourself,

techno tony


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http://www.detroitnews.com/specialreports/2000/dare/28raves/28raves.htm
Teens at a recent rave in a warehouse on Detroit's east side, where drugs
are easily dispensed, said they had gone through the DARE program, but it
didn't make a difference in their decisions to use drugs.
Raves thrive as teen drug havens
Secret, all-night parties draw hundreds with easy access to alcohol,
Ecstasy, pot
By Jodi Upton / The Detroit News
DETROIT - The music seeps out of the massive brick building and can be
heard a block away - the pounding, wordless base of industrial music that
is a Detroit specialty.
It's the only real indication there's any life at all down the dark,
snowy side street in one of Detroit's abandoned warehouse districts. But
inside, more than 500 people brave the $20 admission, the body search for
weapons, the lack of heat and suspicious portable toilets, all to have a
place where, until dawn, they can experience LSD, Ecstasy, pot or nitrous 
oxide.
It's called a rave: the 90's house party redux, a blind pig for kids. And
there's little chance the police will burst in and call everyone's
parents, mainly because the staff it would require to bust a party of 500
kids is hardly worth the payoff.
"What you usually end up with is a pile of dope in the middle of a
table," Melvindale Police Chief John DiFatta said. "You have little to
connect it to anyone."
Alcohol and marijuana leave a tell-tale smell, and breathalyzers can
check blood-alcohol levels. But it takes a warrant to get a blood test to
check for drugs such as acid, Ecstasy or GHB, making it nearly impossible
to catch a teen-ager in the act.
"That makes it very hard to investigate," DiFatta said.
So raves continue to thrive nationwide, advertising on the Internet but
keeping the location secret till the last minute. Party-goers get
directions a few hours in advance, through a recorded telephone message.
It's not just teen-agers. A recent Detroit rave attracted construction
workers in their 20s; another was a master's student with a degree in
criminal justice. They come from all over: Ann Arbor, Algonac, Monroe,
Walled Lake. A home-schooled kid from Westland.
Some come to watch, others come to see the laser light show. But most
come for the drugs.
"Some do. I don't anymore," said Randi Pocs, 17, of Waterford. "You don't
have to do drugs to be happy."
It's easy to spot the ones on acid or Ecstasy, by their zombie-like
stares as friends blow air in their faces or flash lights in their eyes,
increasing sensory input. Others sit on the sidelines, touching each
other. Balloons passed around the room are filled with nitrous; others
openly smoke pot.
The party chic: faux innocence.
Four girls helped each other attach pink mesh butterfly wings to their
backs, babyish enough to want to dress like fairies but worldly enough to
know better than to tell a reporter, on the record, about their drug
experiences. Several sucked on pacifiers; others carried their belongings
in Teletubbies backpacks.
Other than the music and light show, there's not much offered at this
rave, except water bottles and paper breathing masks, which are rubbed
with Vick's VapoRub to intensify the high.
Not all party
Not all kids party at raves, and many teens say you can have a squeaky
clean image without being dismissed as a geek.
"There's quite a few parties that are clean. But even if it's not,
there's no pressure," said Eric Vollbach, 18, a senior at Brandon High
School in Oakland County. "It's there if you want it. I've never had a
problem."
A football guard, Boy Scout, mountain bike racer and "Snowcoming King" at
the winter prom, Vollbach has also been a DARE role model for the
district's 5th graders, even though he never went through the program.
"I think some kids do it out of boredom, something to do or to fit in. I
tried it, but I didn't think it was anything special."

--- end of article ---




"Perhaps the drug experience bears significant fruit when rooted in the
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too young for such psychic adventures - and the failure to recognize this
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:roszak's words could be purposeful here. from "the making of a
:counterculture", he said in 1968, again repeating in 1995:
:
:
:"Perhaps the drug experience bears significant fruit when rooted in the
:soil of a mature and cultivated mind. But there are minds too small and too
:young for such psychic adventures - and the failure to recognize this fact
:is the beginning of disaster." (Roszak)


amen to that.

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i'm lazy, so i don't feel like looking for a good place to find good mp3's.. 
.so i ask of you people.. any suggestions? napster.com just isn't working out 
for me right now... mmm.


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i just wanted to say i warned all of u about booige tribe



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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 02:49:48 2000
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well u can try going on irc and looking for them on there  www.mirc.com

look for them in these channels #mp3jungle #mp3rave #mp3gabber #mp3techno 
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How/what do you guys think of Dave Ralph?




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and
>there is
>never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee

i believe it was force mass motion that had precisly that.

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>Haha!  We'll slowly convert you to the dark side!  You'll be listening to
>Jawbreaker
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>  > jason111 gave me a slug off his flask of whiskey.
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 He spins trance, therefore he sucks.  Hasn't this been covered already? 


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agree to disagree sounds like a plan. i lost interest a post ago anyway.. :) 
jk...

-ross


>From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:08:15 -0600
>
>when a party gets shut down, the people putting it on may or may not have
>had control over the situation and without studying the circumstances, its
>hard to put the blame on anyone automatically.  however, i think getting
>your ass kicked by a security guard just because you're an unwilling
>participant in a mob is on a whole other level than not getting to see a
>certian DJ play.
>
>you're right - i wasn't at LOTD2, but after my experience saturday evening
>that's probably the last boogie tribe event i go to, and its definitely the
>last boogie tribe event i buy presales for.  without a doubt, "buyer 
>beware"
>
>we absolutely do have different standards.  how about we agree to disagree
>and drop this thread?
>
>-t
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ross Wolinsky [mailto:riotnerd28@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 5:31 PM
>To: tonysebion@tensionboy.com; mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>
>
>my standards are high, and i thought this party went off splendidly... once
>actually getting INSIDE, despite high temperatures and a crowded venue, the
>majority of the place was dancing all night... the fact is that when you go
>to a rave, there are NEVER GUARANTEES.  Take Louisville a few weeks ago... 
>i
>
>came out from Columbus to attend that event and didn't get to see richie
>play... shit happens... its a rave, the police don't like us, and there is
>never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee.  If you attended LOTD2
>last year, you should have known what to expect, and if you don't like what
>you should have expected, then you shouldn't have attended the event...
>simple as that.
>
>-ross
>
>
> >From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> >Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> >To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'" <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:12:49 -0600
> >
> >There's no wimpering here - there was definitely some worth to the lineup
> >and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't separated from your friends 
>due
> >to some of them not being able to get in because the lines were 
>ridiculous
> >or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel unfeeling person
> >probably
> >could block most of that uglyness out of their mind.
> >
> >If this is the kind of party you'd consider a success, IMHO, your 
>standards
> >are very low.
> >
> >-t
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@yahoo.com]
> >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM
> >To: Tony Sebion; 'Ross Wolinsky'
> >Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
> >Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> >
> >
> >
> >  Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears.. You
> >goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some heat
> >and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt yer
> >mother ever tell you something about if you cant say
> >something nice, not to say it at all??
> >
> >   This party went off, it went off rather well.. Take
> >this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
> >there either than just shut up, and be happy that you
> >are alive unscathed...
> >
> >    I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
> >shit happens..
> >
> >    I guess my final word for all those that didnt get
> >in, is this..
> >
> >     I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!
> >
> >                         Much love,
> >                             Dan Sharp (0_o)
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yeah, well... there should be a guarantee of that much, but instead of 
blaming the promoters... blame the police.  they were the ones doing a 
beating in the first place... anyway, heres an official statement from the 
Boogie Tribe guys that MAY end this damn thread... hopefully at least:

Since our board is down I decided to come on this board and see what 
everyone had to say. There are several valid points I would like to 
counter-point. (The reason I'm posting is because some respectful people on 
this board have posted critical (not disrespectful) comments.

First off, the line was badly organized, agreed. The week before we at 
Boogie Tribe got together for a meeting. We had a two-hour discussion on how 
we were going to get everybody in. We had planned to use our CPD to cover 
the main door, forming six lines. One for blue ticks and guest list, 4 for 
orange ticks, and one for money till we sold out. The Harvey cops basically 
told us to f--- ourselves and said "We are keeping you open, we're doing 
whatever the f--- we want". We had to agree. Just b-4 the mob action we 
opened the Photon door and had perfectly organized lines with our 
experienced CPD in charge. They did an excellent job. Our head of security 
was actually about to fight with the head of Harvey security because of 
this, but that's a whole other story. To those who were trampled, my honest 
apologies. Several of my workers and I were also trampled.

To those who started pushing, I hope you understand that you put lives at 
risk. There IS NO JUSTIFICATION for that! You can not blame us at Boogie 
Tribe. I accept responsibility for the poorly designed line because we 
should have chanced our party getting shut down by pissing off the Harvey 
cops, well maybe not.

The party went all night. ALL DJ's SHOWED. Arguably the best DJ in the world 
came to play in Chicago for the first time since Dee Day one six years ago. 
For this I am proud of. The lights, visuals and sound, were arguably the 
best Chicago has ever offered. The space was originally decorated. No one 
has ever done what we did with that space, basically making a jungle room 
out of a hall way. Imagein the lines if that was not done. We did our best! 
NO ONE CAN TAKE THIS AWAY FROM US.

Anyone who has comments about this direct them to our email addy.

Mike-BT




>From: William Adams <insanityfr@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>CC: riotnerd28@hotmail.com
>Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:25:12 -0800 (PST)
>
>"Shit Happens" is no excuse for abusiveness and I
>think that there is a guarantee (in the minds of those
>attending, at least) that they aren't going to get the
>shit kicked out of them at a rave for no reason.  If
>you're just going to excuse irresponsible behavior on
>the part of the promoters, then you'll have no reason
>to be upset if security kicks your ass and steals your
>wallet at the next party you attend.
>
>--Will
>
>--- Ross Wolinsky <riotnerd28@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > my standards are high, and i thought this party went
> > off splendidly... once
> > actually getting INSIDE, despite high temperatures
> > and a crowded venue, the
> > majority of the place was dancing all night... the
> > fact is that when you go
> > to a rave, there are NEVER GUARANTEES.  Take
> > Louisville a few weeks ago... i
> > came out from Columbus to attend that event and
> > didn't get to see richie
> > play... shit happens... its a rave, the police don't
> > like us, and there is
> > never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee.
> > If you attended LOTD2
> > last year, you should have known what to expect, and
> > if you don't like what
> > you should have expected, then you shouldn't have
> > attended the event...
> > simple as that.
> >
> > -ross
> >
> >
> > >From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> > >Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> > >To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'"
> > <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> > >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:12:49 -0600
> > >
> > >There's no wimpering here - there was definitely
> > some worth to the lineup
> > >and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't
> > separated from your friends due
> > >to some of them not being able to get in because
> > the lines were ridiculous
> > >or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel
> > unfeeling person
> > >probably
> > >could block most of that uglyness out of their
> > mind.
> > >
> > >If this is the kind of party you'd consider a
> > success, IMHO, your standards
> > >are very low.
> > >
> > >-t
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@yahoo.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM
> > >To: Tony Sebion; 'Ross Wolinsky'
> > >Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
> > >Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears..
> > You
> > >goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some
> > heat
> > >and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt
> > yer
> > >mother ever tell you something about if you cant
> > say
> > >something nice, not to say it at all??
> > >
> > >   This party went off, it went off rather well..
> > Take
> > >this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
> > >there either than just shut up, and be happy that
> > you
> > >are alive unscathed...
> > >
> > >    I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
> > >shit happens..
> > >
> > >    I guess my final word for all those that didnt
> > get
> > >in, is this..
> > >
> > >     I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!
> > >
> > >                         Much love,
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I like him better than Oakenfold; I think he is more
versatile, smoother and holds his mixes longer.


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you are correct jaimmie, and  although that party unfortunately started a
little late, (about 1 to 1.5 hrs late) joe had everbody workin shuffle
people in the venue as fast as humanly possible, and the only people i saw
try to take advantage of the policy had not read the (very reasonable) terms
which did state you couldn't stay all damn night and claim you wanted your
money back.  i think most people left that night happy and feeling they got
their money worth.

    -bill

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>
>
>
> and
> >there is
> >never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee
>
> i believe it was force mass motion that had precisly that.
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In a message dated 2/28/0 7:12:44 PM, gsparker wrote:

<<not to mention time to infer that
you have attained secret enlightenment and are a tool of god, 
holding destiny's secrets to which the rest of us can only feebly 
guess at.  As a matter of fact steviet, it seems all you have is 
time...and nothing, not even I, could waste that for ya.>>

did it ever occur to you that if you spent half the time
bettering your own life than makin bullshit up about
people, you probably wouldn't feel so insecure?...you're
like that kid in high school that was like the gossip 
king...always talkin shit for attention...well, this time
you got called out...but i mean most of the shit was obvious,
minorities DO NOT get paid as much as whites (which was
what this post was originally about before you turned it
into another personal attack war), asians DO NOT usually
have "hare-lips" (nor is that reason enough for a decrease
in wages),  and i AM NOT gay (nor is that reason enough to
constantly berate some one with inane high school rumors).





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I like him if he's better than Symmetric   :p



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WHAT!?

DID YOU JUST COMPARE JAWBREAKER TO HAPPY HARDCORE? 

HOLY SHIT.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 04:18:54 2000
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, jsn111 wrote:
> atomly gets 20 punk points for digging jawbreaker. HUZZAH!

Hell yea- Jawbreaker is possibly my favorite band ever!  I was brought up
on Jawbreaker, dammit...  My brother even has the 4F's tattoo on his
forearm.

> sex, booze, and techno, baby! . . . and big fucking campfires.

Sex, Drugs and Gabbahouse?

Damn I can't wait for WTW4: Even Drunker.  (Drunkur?  :P)

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 04:22:32 2000
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Perhaps you should take your own advice.

--Will

--- Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
> did it ever occur to you that if you spent half the
> time
> bettering your own life than makin bullshit up about
> people, you probably wouldn't feel so
> insecure?

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 04:39:22 2000
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Hey, this is just an annoying reminder that if you're in the Minneapolis
area and bored this Friday, I'll be playing a show at the Cave at Carleton
College in Northfield, MN.

When I asked the guy throwing the party the specifics, his quote was "free
all ages beer," which sounds like a party to me.  :P

Anyway, here's the line-up:

some downtempo band (downtempo, duh) (9.00 - 10.00)
The Commissioner (house DJ) (house/breaks DJ) (10.00 - 11.00)
atomly (hard/experimental/breaks/noise live PA) (11.00 - 12.00)
Mumra (house/breaks live PA with vocals) (12.00 - 1.00)


Directions:	http://www.student.carleton.edu/orgs/cave/directions.html

More info:	http://www.atomly.com/music/shows
		http://www.metrowax.com/
		http://www.mp3.com/mumra/
		http://www.mp3.com/atomly/

Anyway, sorry for the spam.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 04:42:44 2000
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al alright, enough of this shit i hear on this list about GHB.  I'll be 
honest.  Me and my friends drink the shit about 2-3 times a week and none of 
us have been stupid enough to misuse it and die.  Its not even  like ghb is 
the deadliest drug.  What about shit like herion which to many of our 
knowledge  has claimed the lives of at least 2 mid-westerners recently and 
doubtlessly many more.  Why are all these people freaking out about 
G....H.....B...  come on all drugs are dangerous and if you are gonna  play 
in the fire someone is deffinitely gonna get burnt.  ghb i mean come on its 
kinda silly to hear all this shit about GHB and not about serious drug 
addictions. "HAVE YOU EVER SUCKED DICK FOR GHB"  half-baked     come on 

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i believe the original message 17 years ago said the hare-lipped asian made
more money than the original poster..thus you trying to cite that as an
unjust reason why they made less money is moot, and asinine.  here's a
little
secret: whites are also not usually "hare-lipped."  it is a (minor) birth
defect.  i also think
if you spent half the time bettering yourself as you spend bitching about
how the white man keeps you down you would be in a better place.  i don't
think you're gay, and i wouldn't hold it against you if you were.
i believe that you stated a long time ago that you couldn't get a job in the
field of your choice (in which you are college educated) because you were
not trained in some form of cad software.  can i help you?  i will get you a
easily installable, non-cracky warez copy of whatever software it is you
need to learn.  i will mail it to you.  i will pay the postage.  on one
condition;  instead of going out to the clubs and hanging out with the elite
ohio rave founders and buying them drinks you can't afford, or getting so
drunk at home your roomates post about your puking escapades to the list,
that you sit your ass at home and learn whatever software it is you need to
propell you through the glass ceiling.  i honestly want you to be able to
empower yourself to succeed. there are plenty of successful asians, and you
could be one, the man be damned.

do we have a deal?

    -bill
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>
> In a message dated 2/28/0 7:12:44 PM, gsparker wrote:
>
> <<not to mention time to infer that
> you have attained secret enlightenment and are a tool of god,
> holding destiny's secrets to which the rest of us can only feebly
> guess at.  As a matter of fact steviet, it seems all you have is
> time...and nothing, not even I, could waste that for ya.>>
>
> did it ever occur to you that if you spent half the time
> bettering your own life than makin bullshit up about
> people, you probably wouldn't feel so insecure?...you're
> like that kid in high school that was like the gossip
> king...always talkin shit for attention...well, this time
> you got called out...but i mean most of the shit was obvious,
> minorities DO NOT get paid as much as whites (which was
> what this post was originally about before you turned it
> into another personal attack war), asians DO NOT usually
> have "hare-lips" (nor is that reason enough for a decrease
> in wages),  and i AM NOT gay (nor is that reason enough to
> constantly berate some one with inane high school rumors).
>
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i definately agree...i've played with both guys and I definately enjoyed 
Dave Ralph more.


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I like him better than Oakenfold; I think he is more
versatile, smoother and holds his mixes longer.


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people need to open their mother fuckin' minds....all i hear in the 
midwest...trance sucks this..trance sucks that

Everyone knows I'm a true house Nigga...that isn't in question.....

i've played with Dave Ralph twice and both times he fucked my shit up.  He 
is a very talented D.J. and yes he plays trance.

People can like what they want, I have no problem with that but you 
shouldn't condemn a D.J. till you actually hear them


----Original Message Follows----
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Subject: Re: [mw] dave ralph
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:15:14 -0500



  He spins trance, therefore he sucks.  Hasn't this been covered already?


At 07:52 PM 02/28/2000 -0700, sarah@shell.safari-media.com wrote:
 >
 >How/what do you guys think of Dave Ralph?
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i don't know....i heard the first sign of ghb abuse was loss of the ability
to spell heroin.  i won't fuck with that shit.
i just try to avoid the even deadlier herion derived from rotting herring
and alewives that wash up on the wisconsin shores of lake michigan.  by the
way, all sarcasm aside, i apolgize for any future mispellings to the list,
as my employer has decided we only need 3 copies of office here, and i don't
get one of em.  mind you, our whole business revolves around an access
database.  you got out just in time, chad.  in case you didn't know, ms
outlook express relies on offices spellchecker, as it is a shitty ass
product and does not have its own.  the man is bringing me down.  it must be
because i am white.

    -bill
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Subject: [mw] ghb bullshit


> al alright, enough of this shit i hear on this list about GHB.  I'll be
> honest.  Me and my friends drink the shit about 2-3 times a week and none
of
> us have been stupid enough to misuse it and die.  Its not even  like ghb
is
> the deadliest drug.  What about shit like herion which to many of our
> knowledge  has claimed the lives of at least 2 mid-westerners recently and
> doubtlessly many more.  Why are all these people freaking out about
> G....H.....B...  come on all drugs are dangerous and if you are gonna
play
> in the fire someone is deffinitely gonna get burnt.  ghb i mean come on
its
> kinda silly to hear all this shit about GHB and not about serious drug
> addictions. "HAVE YOU EVER SUCKED DICK FOR GHB"  half-baked     come on
>
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Dave Ralph is the shizznit!  Oaky hand picked him to do tranceport II, and 
he tours with oaky to open/set the vibe. Definently worth it.

Sug-R


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>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:52:25 -0700 (MST)
>
>
>How/what do you guys think of Dave Ralph?
>
>
>
>
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For one im not your friend pluco......Mind you own damn buisness. All ya had 
to ever say was yeah i have there info but no i dont like you so i wont give 
it to you. im pretty sure he didnt want me calling him since he doesnt know 
me from bologna.

get off your horse


<< no man, i laugh at you cuz you suck.
 
 if victor really wanted you to call him,
 he would have given you the proper contact
 info.
 
 but seein as how you came on promoting
 putting drugs in unsuspecting girls drinks,
 i would avoid you like a fiend too...
 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 05:46:35 2000
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Your sensitivity in this matter is duly noted.

I have a good friend who had to move to the middle of nowhere to get away
from drugs (predominantly GHB) - and suffers every day now.  She lost her
friends ... lost her job ... lost her chance to enjoy the music and the
dancing ... and now finally has acknowledged that she needs drug rehab
treatment.  And just today I checked into how much it costs.  Send me a
private EMail and I can go over some of the costs with you, but let's just
say it is not chump change!  And that is the cost to her.  What about the
cost to her family and friends who have LOST HER!  You think it's funny to
watch this happen to a good friend?

I have seen people say (possibly on another maillist) that they have never
seen or talked to anyone with a drug problem. Well, either they don't know
how to recognize it when they see it  ... or look at it this way.  The
people they know doing drugs are likely not going to admit that they have a
drug problem (until it's too late).  Or maybe they have acknowledged the
fact TO THEMSELVES - but aren't going to admit it to OTHERS.  Or maybe it's
gone so far that they leave (to get away from the scene, to go to rehab, or
worse to a hospital or cemetery).

I don't find this funny ... and am sorry that you do.  Right now I am
thinking about how to raise the money to help my friend get the rehab
treatment she needs ... and wishing I knew someone with some money they'd
like to put to a good cause.  Or maybe our Drug Free Music and Drug Free
Dancing T-Shirts can be sold with all profits going to the drug rehab
center.

http://www.technoheaven.com/drugs.htm
http://www.technoheaven.com/heartfilledwithsadness.htm

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----- Original Message -----
From: <AlienSoulthief@aol.com>

> al alright, enough of this shit i hear on this list about GHB.  I'll be
> honest.  Me and my friends drink the shit about 2-3 times a week and none
of
> us have been stupid enough to misuse it and die.  Its not even  like ghb
is
> the deadliest drug.  What about shit like herion which to many of our
> knowledge  has claimed the lives of at least 2 mid-westerners recently and
> doubtlessly many more.  Why are all these people freaking out about
> G....H.....B...  come on all drugs are dangerous and if you are gonna
play
> in the fire someone is deffinitely gonna get burnt.  ghb i mean come on
its
> kinda silly to hear all this shit about GHB and not about serious drug
> addictions. "HAVE YOU EVER SUCKED DICK FOR GHB"  half-baked     come on



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There ARE those of us who were once fooled
into trying G. I was told that it was liquid =

X and tried it on top of a few glasses of wine.
The effects of this drug are definetly NO FUN..


The recipe is readily available via your computer and
the problem is likely to only get worse.......

I personally knew one of the girls who went out =

at Hoosier Daddy. She was given the drug by =

"some guy" via a water bottle and then robbed
of $800 and her head stash....

The BIG problem with G is that it's not yet
illegal in most states......Indiana included.
Even if our lawmakers do pass legislation to outlaw
it, most of the ingredients are readily available...

"Drugs are BAD" has been beat into most =

of the younger kids heads all their lives....

So, when we try to tell them about G, they =

don't take it seriously...... =


Maybe a few dead kids will make people believe:

GHB is a DEATH WISH!!!!!!!!!!


PLUR,

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In a message dated 2/28/00 7:03:12 PM, DiscoHotLine@aol.com writes:

<<You'll love this high-vibed party!  Dress up
in Disco Gear (tm) and receive a discount 
at the door.  DiscoGear (tm) includes 
bell bottoms>>
***
Can u really Trademark the word "DiscoGear", & why the fuk would u want to?

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any events going on this date??


peace
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Pixie wrote:

> :roszak's words could be purposeful here. from "the making of a
> :counterculture", he said in 1968, again repeating in 1995:
> :
> :
> :"Perhaps the drug experience bears significant fruit when rooted in the
> :soil of a mature and cultivated mind. But there are minds too small and too
> :young for such psychic adventures - and the failure to recognize this fact
> :is the beginning of disaster." (Roszak)
>
> amen to that.

Also consider this one:

"Psychedelics have a powerful message to give, but once you get the
message you should hang up the phone."
   - Timothy Leary (I think.. I could be mistaken)



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(insert angry opinion about GHB here)

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In a message dated 2/29/00 6:10:59 AM !!!First Boot!!!, TeknoMafia writes:

> Can u really Trademark the word "DiscoGear", 

Sure!

> & why the fuk would u want to?

Because we can...

Flawless*Johnny*Lawless
PR Exec - DiscoDisciples d'Amour
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In a message dated 2/28/00 10:44:34 PM, AlienSoulthief@aol.com writes:

<<al alright, enough of this shit i hear on this list about GHB.  I'll be 
honest.  Me and my friends drink the shit about 2-3 times a week and none of 
us have been stupid enough to misuse it and die.  Its not even  like ghb is 
the deadliest drug.  What about shit like herion which to many of our 
knowledge  has claimed the lives of at least 2 mid-westerners recently and 
doubtlessly many more.  Why are all these people freaking out about 
G....H.....B...  come on all drugs are dangerous and if you are gonna  play 
in the fire someone is deffinitely gonna get burnt.  ghb i mean come on its 
kinda silly to hear all this shit about GHB and not about serious drug 
addictions. "HAVE YOU EVER SUCKED DICK FOR GHB"  half-baked     come on >>

OK, well guess what...dealers don't sell heroin to newbie ravers as "liquid 
ecstasy" in a vile attempt to peddle their shit.  When you were 17 wouldn't 
you have fallen for that ploy too?  I would have.  Heroin users make a 
conscious choice to do heroin, many G users ignorantly make the choice to do 
"E" but get G instead.  I think the biggest issues people have with G is in 
the instances where some kid is uneducated about the use/misuse of the 
substance & do too much, mix it with alcohol, etc.
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Awww...... fudge!

Forgiveness is in order!

We mis-printed our guest-list/vending request e-mail addy in 
our previous promotional banter!   Please note the following:


ALL GUEST LIST AND VENDOR REQUESTS MUST BE MADE
OUT TO THE FOLLOWING E*MAIL ADDRESS:

MicroMonthlyInfo@aol.com

Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience!

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Now grantid, I'm not even a drinker myself.  But, there is nothing wrong with 
being drunk at a rave, as long as you're not a sloppy drunk.  Sloppy drunks 
suck....but if people can run around frying there minds out on acid, and 
doing buttloads of K, theres nothing wrong with having a few drinks while 
partyin! (:


yous truely
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000 01:16:42 EST, NothingARN@aol.com wrote:

>any events going on this date??
>
>

"American Cheese Prod." in Columbus, OH
is planning something that night I believe.

Wanna confirm Mr. Knight ?


	Joe



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At 09:52 PM 2/28/2000 PST, Papa Bear <papabear1112@netscape.net> wrote:

>The recipe is readily available via your computer and
>the problem is likely to only get worse.......

And not only is the recipe readily available, but it looks pretty simple.
No need for a chemistry degree or anything.

>The BIG problem with G is that it's not yet
>illegal in most states......Indiana included.

GHB is illegal in Indiana... it's a schedule II controlled substance (see
Indiana Code 35-48-2-6(e)). Apparently GHB will be placed in the federal
schedule I within 60 days.

>Even if our lawmakers do pass legislation to outlaw
>it, most of the ingredients are readily available...

This, I think, is the big problem. And in any event, merely outlawing GHB
won't cause it to go away.

MWC


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In a message dated 2/29/0 4:43:47 AM, wbunyan wrote:

<<condition;  instead of going out to the clubs and hanging out 
with the elite ohio rave founders and buying them drinks you 
can't afford>>

actually, i usually get free drinks (the elite membership
has its priveledges)...like i said, i bought the round this time 
cuz i got paid...i'm really not that bad off financially anymore
...landed another account executive type job...might pursue that 
career instead of architecture since it seems more viable at this 
point in time...

lol, people really underestimate me on this list...if they only
had an incling...

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Peace.  Junglodium was OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!.  This is the biggest party I went
to besides rave em and bailey 3, that I throroughly enjoyed.  I am sure
there was several thousand people there.  I went to Cleveland before for
LTJ Bukem and Slipmaster J last year, but this definitely topped that
as far as scale, sound, and lighting.  Initially the space was damp and 
stinky (I went earlier, while they was setting up) but it was tolerable by
10 pm. and the smoke was covering up the smell (and I don't like smoke).
The second room, downstairs, it smelled like paint, and the sound system was 
not put together well.  You couldn't hardly hear anything near the speakers,
but the superposition of the low ends made it sound louder THE FURTHER YOU GOT
AWAY FROM THE SPEAKERS, which is kinda dumb, but oh well.  Plus they had this
dance floor, and it felt like it was re-emitting sound, so it was loudest in
the center of the room.  Overall the lighting and atmosphere was cool.  In
the main room they had nets and stuffed parachute guys with camoflage on,
hanging from the ceiling, and vines and stuff up front at the tables and
sound system, plus this chill area off to the sides of the right speakers.
Downstairs was dark, they had perhaps one tech light, but that was probably
cool if you just wanted to chill harder.
What I like the most is that this was a special OLD SKOOL APPRECIATION event, 
even though it didn't say so on the flyers.  Plus I only payed 15 dollars for 
the internet presales, and this event was definitely worth the twenty dollars 
for the regular presales.  First up was Kenny Cunningham and rude boy 
Jamalaski MC'ing, a dark tech step affair, but good none the less, however, 
I concentrated on the second room, where LSDias was playing an old skool / 
ragga set.  The mixing wasn't all that good, and they was having sound system 
problems (it look more like the guy didn't have the low end levels on the 
equalizer on the mixer turned up, also didn't have monitor, so he was trying
to beat match from the sound echoing from the back wall, so he was always off) 
but I liked the records he was playing.  Next in the
main room was Mystical Influence and MC Rekkah.  A WICKED SET, old skool,
ragga bidness, lots of rewinds, new anthems, lighter calls etc. plus the 
mixing was tight.  Arguably the best set of the night.  
Now we get into DJ Krust and MC Dynamite.  Oh gosh!!! this man dropped some of 
hardest tracks and new stuff too, not even on "Coded Language", plus it
had lots of AMEN BREAKS (yes, thank you, mmmmm) pleaders, soul prides, etc.,
instead of all that two step monotony.  He started off with this 
bass/vibraphone line that had a 3/3 pattern, and then then this 4/4 breakbeat
came in over that, then some wicked mashed up amens came in and was
blowing spit up.. These breaks and bass lines was so
hard, it was blowing fuses and stuff, and causing the records to skip, but
we understood though.  Definitely the loudest set of the night, and the most
illuminating, although perhaps not the best mixing, because of the technical
problems.  Krust was just putting a hurt on the system, but if you would
heard the choons, you would have understood.  He even had this remix dubplate
of some song, can't remember what the name is and producer, but they seem
to play it at Direct Drive or Physics every week, has lots of amens in it,
and a really hard dark bass line, with these skrunchy horns.  Anyway,
his remix had the bass line chopped up in a different format, like 
interchanging the first notes for the seconds. When
I get the track id for the original, I will let you know, then you will
see, if you heard the tune, what I am talking about.
Next was UFO and Jamalski.  Ufo dropped that one track with the intro to
Dune, and then we are off !!!  Some spacey and techy stuff going on here!
Phunkateck cru represent.  Jamalski was representing the yardie to the fullest
as usual.  Those people that say that Jamalski is not that good need their
genitals cut off.  The REAL ROOTS and RAGGA toasters need to be showcased more
(Jamalski, Rekkah, Dynamite, etc.)  I had to leave in the middle of the UFO 
set (about 5:00) to get back to Chicago for the bidness.  Jamalski is supposed 
to send me some promotional stuff so I will tell y'all what's up when I get
it.  Respect to Sphere Productions ( http://www.sphereproductions.com).  Peace.

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there both good but their no paul van dyk


--- "SuG-R ." <e_licous22@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dave Ralph is the shizznit!  Oaky hand picked him to
> do tranceport II, and 
> he tours with oaky to open/set the vibe. Definently
> worth it.
> 
> Sug-R
> 
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> >
> >How/what do you guys think of Dave Ralph?
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First off, 

This Thursday at LIFT, is Little Louie Vega...

513.665.9999 or 513.648.9647 for info

Louie Vega = world renowned house legend...
don't miss it!


As for Subsonik:

Floorplan 04 is on Friday March 10th w/ Jay Goodwill, Derrick Thompson (a.k.a Drivetrain), Robert Curcio, Shiva, Troll & MC Firecat, Spirit, Brian Drabant, and Spahn. For more info and directions: 513.682.3282 

Floorplan 05 is on Friday March 24th w/ Kikoman, Perry Ellis, Derek Plaslaiko, Robert Curcio, Matt Bandy, Adam Jensen, React, and Headstrong. 

Floorplan 05 is the last scheduled installement. Future installments are to be announced. 

Also, watch for Sequence 2.0 on Friday March 17th... only $5... more info t.b.a this week.

and on Saturday July 29th is Future Teknology 2. This will be an all headliner event, with Techno, House, Trance, Drum & Bass, and Breakbeat talent from around the globe. Future Tek 2 will feature the best there is to offer in sight and sound. 

More info t.b.a soon!!!

For more info on Subsonik and other midwest events call
513.682.3282 or visit http://subsonik.linenoiz.com

and this Saturday is Tri-Quad's two year anniversary
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YUMMY!!!!!!!!! I'll be there with bells on !
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Saturday, May 6, 2000  ----    Court of Chaos    
Infinite Velocity Productions with support from pHryL International present:

Adam Beyer
[drumcode, code red - stockholm, sweden]  3 turn tables
www.drumcode.se

The young prodigy that took on the rest of the techno world, and by 
dethroning Detroit and the UK, established Sweden as the pre-eminent techno 
country in the late 90's. Since then, Beyer has become one of the world's 
most sought after and most appreciated techno producers and DJs. His 
releases on Drumcode and Code Red are constantly pushing the barriers into 
new unchartered territories of rich sound, deep bass and drum beat. The Adam 
Beyer signature sound is already legendary, and there is no real techno DJ 
that doesn't have at least several of his records in constant rotation. 
Experience his flawless style and a flood of yet to be released white labels 
as he makes his Pittsburgh debut, and a long awaited return to the entire
area.


Misstress Barbara
[tronic, primate, relentless - montreal, canada]  3 turn tables
www.tronicmusic.com

Step down Miss Djax, Monika Kruse or Electric Indigo. The Misstress is the 
new queen of techno worldwide. Her releases on some of the most respected 
techno labels during '99 have reinforced the notion of how deep her talent 
is. Barbara's relentless and signiture sound and great impeccable DJ
skills have landed her gigs all over Europe, the Far East and South
America. Making her first appearance 
in the Pittsburgh and the surrounding area, it should be a threat for 
everyone to see and hear the Misstress at work. She will certainly change
your perception of techno.


DJ T-1000
[pure sonik, tresor - detroit]  3 turn tables
www.tresorberlin.de

Even the most casual partygoer has doubtlessly at sometime in their life
heard the music suddenly go dead and be replaced by a booming voice
announcing some of the greatest talent on tables. This is the voice of DJ
T-1000: Alan D. Oldham.  With influences ranging from Massive Attack and
Timbaland to Juan Atkins and Regis, Oldham's output has taken down the
borders, combined the concepts and blended the elements into
autobiographical narrative. The releases on Pure Sonik and Tresor are the
testament of his meticulous work. His DJing all over the World is the
testament that he's welcome and embraced passionately by the audiences
everywhere. Wish him a happy b-day too ;-)


Nigel Richards
[611 records - philadephia]
www.611records.com

The man behind one of the best known electronic music and clothing 
stores in America. Since he started DJing almost 10 years ago, he has been 
the crowd's favorite. As one of the bussiest DJ's on the circuit, he's all
over the place several nights a week rocking the crowds. He has also
started producing recently, so look out for some of his new work coming out
soon. With his unique style, blending house and techno, he will always be
the one to get you up on your feet dancing.

Kaos
[Atlantiq/Good Looking Records/Elite Recordings, SF]
www.eliterecordings.com

An original east coast DnB pioneer will be back to Pittsburgh to show us all 
what it's really about.  Originally from Philly, now residing in San 
Fransisco he is showing the west coast what real DnB is.

>>Eye-D
   Eye-D is one of the stars behind the Roterdam scene.  This is definately a 
set not to be missed.  This will be his first PA appearance.  Welcome this 
international man of mystery while he shows us what Fusion of hardcore and 
gabber really are.

Also you'll be hearing some or our talented locals throughout the evening.
Red Commi Bastard
Dj Darwin
Reliant & Ratana   *special tag team set
Dj Moose
Michael Knight
Army of Angst

For more information contact: 412-734-5425  I_v_crew@wizardworkshop.com

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I will admit that when I got dragged to Motor by a few friends to watch
Oakenfold(who was shit), I did somewhat enjoy Dave Ralph.  He totally
upstaged Oakenfold.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Trevor Lamont wrote:

> people need to open their mother fuckin' minds....all i hear in the 
> midwest...trance sucks this..trance sucks that
> 
> Everyone knows I'm a true house Nigga...that isn't in question.....
> 
> i've played with Dave Ralph twice and both times he fucked my shit up.  He 
> is a very talented D.J. and yes he plays trance.
> 
> People can like what they want, I have no problem with that but you 
> shouldn't condemn a D.J. till you actually hear them
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Kevin Robbins <krobbins@umich.edu>
> Reply-To: Kevin Robbins <krobbins@umich.edu>
> To: <sarah@shell.safari-media.com>, MW Raves List <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: Re: [mw] dave ralph
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:15:14 -0500
> 
> 
> 
>   He spins trance, therefore he sucks.  Hasn't this been covered already?
> 
> 
> At 07:52 PM 02/28/2000 -0700, sarah@shell.safari-media.com wrote:
>  >
>  >How/what do you guys think of Dave Ralph?
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Good point Chris.  I never really thought about it that way.

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, chris ege wrote:

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After reading the rubbish below I have decided to drop the PLUR shit and say 
whats really on my fucking mind..

   Basically, from what I believe, and what I have read below. SHUT THE FUCK 
UP you pussy little bastard.. A.. you didnt get your wallet stolen, nor do 
you know anyone who has.. At least not at this party.. You are one of the 
little annoyances that regularly spreads shit cause your life has too little 
meaning so you rain on everyone elses parade. If you got your ass kicked, go 
eat some wheaties and snorting crystal meth.. If you did get your ass 
kicked, take them to court.. The basic point is.. You didn't.. You are just 
perpetuating someone elses attempt at skewing the facts of the night.. I had 
friends who arrived from ohio, and didnt get let in..I know what its like.. 
Been there, done it.. All the crying.. I HAD PRESALES AND DIDNT get in.. 
Well fucking everyone had presales.. Its the idiots who showed up with cash 
in hand that made the situation worse.. You people ruin it for yourselves 
more and more everytime.. Let me guess, the raver-boi who got hit by the 
police.. Lets see, I bet he didnt say anything and just stood there.. The 
truth is. is that both sides are wrong..You just dont know the facts, but 
wanna feel important by making up your own little stories.. Thats the 
problem though, they are stories.. Stories made up in your mind... Enough of 
this thread.. Enough of your insignificant crying...
         Usually, Im all PLUR this and PLUR that... You kids just fucking 
cry too much.. I have had my fill of it..

                             Now go play in traffic,
                                Much love,
                                   Dan Sharp


>From: William Adams <insanityfr@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: William Adams <insanityfr@yahoo.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>CC: riotnerd28@hotmail.com
>Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:25:12 -0800 (PST)
>
>"Shit Happens" is no excuse for abusiveness and I
>think that there is a guarantee (in the minds of those
>attending, at least) that they aren't going to get the
>shit kicked out of them at a rave for no reason.  If
>you're just going to excuse irresponsible behavior on
>the part of the promoters, then you'll have no reason
>to be upset if security kicks your ass and steals your
>wallet at the next party you attend.
>
>--Will
>
>--- Ross Wolinsky <riotnerd28@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > my standards are high, and i thought this party went
> > off splendidly... once
> > actually getting INSIDE, despite high temperatures
> > and a crowded venue, the
> > majority of the place was dancing all night... the
> > fact is that when you go
> > to a rave, there are NEVER GUARANTEES.  Take
> > Louisville a few weeks ago... i
> > came out from Columbus to attend that event and
> > didn't get to see richie
> > play... shit happens... its a rave, the police don't
> > like us, and there is
> > never a satisfaction-or-your-money-back guarantee.
> > If you attended LOTD2
> > last year, you should have known what to expect, and
> > if you don't like what
> > you should have expected, then you shouldn't have
> > attended the event...
> > simple as that.
> >
> > -ross
> >
> >
> > >From: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> > >Reply-To: Tony Sebion <tonysebion@tensionboy.com>
> > >To: "'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'"
> > <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> > >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:12:49 -0600
> > >
> > >There's no wimpering here - there was definitely
> > some worth to the lineup
> > >and presentation.  In fact, if you weren't
> > separated from your friends due
> > >to some of them not being able to get in because
> > the lines were ridiculous
> > >or because they needed to be hospitalized, a cruel
> > unfeeling person
> > >probably
> > >could block most of that uglyness out of their
> > mind.
> > >
> > >If this is the kind of party you'd consider a
> > success, IMHO, your standards
> > >are very low.
> > >
> > >-t
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: dan sharp [mailto:kode_@yahoo.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 2:55 PM
> > >To: Tony Sebion; 'Ross Wolinsky'
> > >Cc: 'mw-raves@hyperreal.org'
> > >Subject: [mw] LOTD3 DAMN KIDS..SHUTUP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Quit all the whimpering, it falls on deaf ears..
> > You
> > >goto chicago for a party, you need to expect some
> > heat
> > >and the regular hazards of partying there. Didnt
> > yer
> > >mother ever tell you something about if you cant
> > say
> > >something nice, not to say it at all??
> > >
> > >   This party went off, it went off rather well..
> > Take
> > >this party and compare it to D-DAY4.. if you werent
> > >there either than just shut up, and be happy that
> > you
> > >are alive unscathed...
> > >
> > >    I admit the crowd control was a bit sloppy, but
> > >shit happens..
> > >
> > >    I guess my final word for all those that didnt
> > get
> > >in, is this..
> > >
> > >     I got to see hawtin!!! I got to see hawtin!!!!
> > >
> > >                         Much love,
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 14:07:40 2000
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Is Tim Ramsey still on this list???  I faintly recalll he had rather strong
opinions about ghb and what not... (that were contraire to the prevailing
ones here but he seemed to be able to back up his opinion with scientific
study).   My personal opinion is ghb is substance with potential for use/
misuse/ and abuse.  No mere thing is inherently bad mayb how it is used...


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At 05:15 AM 2/29/00 -0500, dj_react@alloymail.com wrote:
>First off, 
>
>This Thursday at LIFT, is Little Louie Vega...
>
>513.665.9999 or 513.648.9647 for info
>
>Louie Vega = world renowned house legend...
>don't miss it!
>

Does anyone know how much this is going to be?


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 14:58:02 2000
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Happy Leap year kiddos....yeeeeeehawwwwwww.  Hmm this is a powerful day, =
I can
fee my body surging with energy....mwhwhwhwhwahahahahahhahahahah...

Ahem....Well Have a good day, Yo! :)


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 15:16:31 2000
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well, at least you're tenacious.

I never said you were gay...I said word going 'round has it you're gay;
personally, I could care less.  The statement was a reference to how
impossible you are to logically communicate with (~4 months back, the
best way one could reason with your posts was to reply "steviet, you're
gay", and watch you get all pissy).  But I can see how you would like to
focus on the minor statements and blow them out of proportion rather
than address the core of what I've been saying.

Don't act like you were selflessly addressing the plight of the
minorities.  You were whining about yourself and how hard you have it,
and at the same time, how cool you are.  My point remains: ***You beg
for pity and brag for ego to a mail list***  Not a high-school rumor,
but an empirical observation whose status is practically intuitive to
all.

Furthermore, you are an asshole for trying to turn it around on me.  All
I was trying to say in the first place was that it's not like you say
everywhere else, and that we all have our reasons to bitch...you're not
special, so why do you have to act like it?  Primarily I was just sick
of your whining.  So knock it off.


end of discussion, do not reply.

...gregori


Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/28/0 7:12:44 PM, gsparker wrote:
>
> <<not to mention time to infer that
> you have attained secret enlightenment and are a tool of god,
> holding destiny's secrets to which the rest of us can only feebly
> guess at.  As a matter of fact steviet, it seems all you have is
> time...and nothing, not even I, could waste that for ya.>>
>
> did it ever occur to you that if you spent half the time
> bettering your own life than makin bullshit up about
> people, you probably wouldn't feel so insecure?...you're
> like that kid in high school that was like the gossip
> king...always talkin shit for attention...well, this time
> you got called out...but i mean most of the shit was obvious,
> minorities DO NOT get paid as much as whites (which was
> what this post was originally about before you turned it
> into another personal attack war), asians DO NOT usually
> have "hare-lips" (nor is that reason enough for a decrease
> in wages),  and i AM NOT gay (nor is that reason enough to
> constantly berate some one with inane high school rumors).
>
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In a message dated 2/29/0 3:17:03 PM, gsparker writes:

<< I said word going 'round has it you're gay; personally, I could care 
less.  The statement was a reference to how impossible you are to 
logically communicate with >>

so now you are implying that gay people are impossible to logically
communicate?...not that this statement is that surprising coming 
from an ignorant racist such as yourself, but to even use the word
'logically' when i had previously proved your flaws in even common
grade school logic previously...

<<Don't act like you were selflessly addressing the plight of the
minorities.  You were whining about yourself and how hard you have it,
and at the same time, how cool you are. >>

uh hello?...did you like not read the title of the thread?...what did you
think i was going to bitch about?...and what better way to address the
plight of minorities THAN from first hand observations?...again your
logic is flawed...

<<Furthermore, you are an asshole for trying to turn it around on me.  
All I was trying to say in the first place was that it's not like you say
everywhere else, and that we all have our reasons to bitch>>

excuse me?...i'm the asshole?...who's the asshole who instead of
listening to anything i said about the plight of minorities, started
off with racist remarks, than turned it into a personal attack war
by throwing out false accusation after false accusation coupled
with your superiority complex to the point that you think you can
speak for the entire list, you can tell me what i think, to even what
sexual orientation i choose...the only reason this thread went on 
this long was because, i was defending myself from your onslaught
of lies in a sorry attempt to boost your superiority complex...you are 
beyond asshole...you are like the high school bully that everyone 
wished would get hit by a mac truck.


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> << I said word going 'round has it you're gay; personally, I could care 
> less.  The statement was a reference to how impossible you are to 
> logically communicate with >>
> 
> so now you are implying that gay people are impossible to logically
> communicate?...

hahaha oy....  i can see poor gregori banging his head on his desk right
about now.  stay strong, we're with ya brotha!!  =)

stevie you're worse than those women who take *everything* *anybody* says
to mean they're fat. 
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YOU BEG FOR PITY AND BRAG FOR EGO TO A MAIL LIST

end of discussion, do not reply.

...gregori


Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/29/0 3:17:03 PM, gsparker writes:
>
> << I said word going 'round has it you're gay; personally, I could care
> less.  The statement was a reference to how impossible you are to
> logically communicate with >>
>
> so now you are implying that gay people are impossible to logically
> communicate?...not that this statement is that surprising coming
> from an ignorant racist such as yourself, but to even use the word
> 'logically' when i had previously proved your flaws in even common
> grade school logic previously...
>
> <<Don't act like you were selflessly addressing the plight of the
> minorities.  You were whining about yourself and how hard you have it,
> and at the same time, how cool you are. >>
>
> uh hello?...did you like not read the title of the thread?...what did you
> think i was going to bitch about?...and what better way to address the
> plight of minorities THAN from first hand observations?...again your
> logic is flawed...
>
> <<Furthermore, you are an asshole for trying to turn it around on me.
> All I was trying to say in the first place was that it's not like you say
> everywhere else, and that we all have our reasons to bitch>>
>
> excuse me?...i'm the asshole?...who's the asshole who instead of
> listening to anything i said about the plight of minorities, started
> off with racist remarks, than turned it into a personal attack war
> by throwing out false accusation after false accusation coupled
> with your superiority complex to the point that you think you can
> speak for the entire list, you can tell me what i think, to even what
> sexual orientation i choose...the only reason this thread went on
> this long was because, i was defending myself from your onslaught
> of lies in a sorry attempt to boost your superiority complex...you are
> beyond asshole...you are like the high school bully that everyone
> wished would get hit by a mac truck.
>
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hey, HUGE! is looking to put some 'zines into stores around here, could
somebody please send me the addresses of some rave-related stores
(records, clothes, etc.) in detroit and chicago?
thanks.


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From: "Abstrakt Ent." <abstrakt@alloymail.com>
Subject: Abstraktion 3... The saga continues/Artist Management/Tours
  2000
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Whats up everyone, Its time for another update from Abstrakt Entertainment!

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Abstrakt Entertainment presents...

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ABSTRAKTION 3                        Friday March 3rd, 2000
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

in Cincinnati, OH

featuring:

PHANTOM 45 (SubBase. Chicago.)=20
Phantom is on the forefront of our rising jungle scene and=20
has been since the begining of the Chicago Jungle takeover.=20
Come witness his fine American Jungle.

DWYNN (KMS Records. Detroit.)=20
Dwynn is one of the originators of the Detroit techno scene next to
superstars=20
such as Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and Carl Craig. Spending most of his=
=20
time playing out overseas at top-notch clubs and mega-raves, it is an honor
to=20
have Dwynn here in Cincinnati mixing his flawless style of techno and house.

BOB-A-DOB (Cluhead Records, Lift, Jackin' House.)
House + Beer =3D Bob-A-Dob, A Cincinnati Legend.

DJ SPIRIT (Abstrakt Entertainment.)
Cincinnati's best kept secret, performing on three turntables and a 303.

BRIAN DRABANT (X Minuse One.)
Techno at its finest.

Doors open @ 10PM -- 18 & UP W/ID

Large capacity venue with a bangin' sound=20
system and intelligent lighting.=20

Check main info line for admission/directions.
Main Info Line: 513.588.6220=20

Thanks for everyone's continued support!

www.abstraktentertainment.com

Support Lines:
Yum-Yum: 513.648.9647
C.B.S.: 513.665.6572
Stillfresh: 513.956.0570
Loco-line: 513.736.1881=20

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Abstrakt Entertainment Artist Management 2000 Roster:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Please check out our website, the newly renovated site with
online bookings and mp3's will be up in early march.

Please call our info line or email to book any of the following artists:

We have only three dates left for the Troublemen Tour from Paris:
Wednesday April, 26 / Thursday April, 27 / Sun April 30 2000.
This tour features "The Troublemen" direct from Paris,
Dj Skip (Pushpac-Chicago) & Aaron Ochoa (King funk/Pushpac-Nashville).
Serious inquiries only--flight share from paris will be split up.

Dj 3D - drum & bass
Forte and Canvas Records

Aaron Ochoa =96 house
Pushpac/Kingfunk=20

Kid Entropy - jungle (dj & mc)
Cosmic Breaks & Semiconscious

JSpeed - hip-hop / jungle / turntablist
Abstrakt Entertainment

Mr. Dibbs - turntablist / hip-hop / tricknologist
1200 Hobos/A.P.S.O./4 Ways 2 Rock

Spirit - techno
Abstrakt Entertainment

Topspeed - hip hop
Crush Entertainment

Translucent - house
Strictly Jazz Unit

Uplink [Live] - techno
Abstrakt Entertainment,=20
Clavitronics and y2k Records

More artists to be added soon=85

Contact Abstrakt Entertainment:

PH: 513.588.6220
FX: 513.558.5936

Email: abstrakt@alloymail.com

Web: www.abstraktentertainment.com

Abstrakt Entertainment
P.O. Box 19798
Cincinnati, OH 45219
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<b>Whats up everyone, Its time for another update from Abstrakt
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be interested.<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
<br>
in <b>Cincinnati, OH<br>
<br>
</b>featuring:<br>
<br>
<b>PHANTOM 45</b> (SubBase. Chicago.) <br>
Phantom is on the forefront of our rising jungle scene and <br>
has been since the begining of the Chicago Jungle takeover. <br>
Come witness his fine American Jungle.<br>
<br>
<b>DWYNN</b> (KMS Records. Detroit.) <br>
Dwynn is one of the originators of the Detroit techno scene next to
superstars <br>
such as Derrick May, Kevin Saunderson, and Carl Craig. Spending most of
his <br>
time playing out overseas at top-notch clubs and mega-raves, it is an
honor to <br>
have Dwynn here in Cincinnati mixing his flawless style of techno and
house.<br>
<br>
<b>BOB-A-DOB</b> (Cluhead Records, Lift, Jackin' House.)<br>
House + Beer =3D Bob-A-Dob, A Cincinnati Legend.<br>
<br>
<b>DJ SPIRIT</b> (Abstrakt Entertainment.)<br>
Cincinnati's best kept secret, performing on three turntables and a
303.<br>
<br>
<b>BRIAN DRABANT</b> (X Minuse One.)<br>
Techno at its finest.<br>
<br>
Doors open @ 10PM -- 18 &amp; UP W/ID<br>
<br>
Large capacity venue with a bangin' sound <br>
system and intelligent lighting. <br>
<br>
Check main info line for admission/directions.<br>
<b>Main Info Line: 513.588.6220 <br>
<br>
</b>Thanks for everyone's continued support!<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.abstraktentertainment.com/" eudora=3D"autourl"><font=
 color=3D"#0000FF"><u>www.abstraktentertainment.com</a><br>
<br>
</font></u><font color=3D"#000000">Support Lines:<br>
Yum-Yum: 513.648.9647<br>
C.B.S.: 513.665.6572<br>
Stillfresh: 513.956.0570<br>
Loco-line: 513.736.1881 <br>
<br>
&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;=
&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
<b>Abstrakt Entertainment Artist Management 2000 Roster:<br>
</b>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;=
&lt;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
<br>
Please check out our website, the newly renovated site with<br>
online bookings and mp3's will be up in early march.<br>
<br>
Please call our info line or email to book any of the following
artists:<br>
<br>
We have only three dates left for the <b>Troublemen Tour from
Paris</b>:<br>
Wednesday April, 26 / Thursday April, 27 / Sun April 30 2000.<br>
This tour features &quot;<b>The Troublemen</b>&quot; direct from
Paris,<br>
<b>Dj Skip</b> (Pushpac-Chicago) &amp; <b>Aaron Ochoa </b>(King
funk/Pushpac-Nashville).<br>
Serious inquiries only--flight share from paris will be split up.<br>
<br>
<b>Dj 3D</b> - drum &amp; bass<br>
Forte and Canvas Records<br>
<br>
<b>Aaron Ochoa</b> =96 house<br>
Pushpac/Kingfunk <br>
<br>
<b>Kid Entropy</b> - jungle (dj &amp; mc)<br>
Cosmic Breaks &amp; Semiconscious<br>
<br>
<b>JSpeed</b> - hip-hop / jungle / turntablist<br>
Abstrakt Entertainment<br>
<br>
<b>Mr. Dibbs</b> - turntablist / hip-hop / tricknologist<br>
1200 Hobos/A.P.S.O./4 Ways 2 Rock<br>
<br>
<b>Spirit</b> - techno<br>
Abstrakt Entertainment<br>
<br>
<b>Topspeed</b> - hip hop<br>
Crush Entertainment<br>
<br>
<b>Translucent</b> - house<br>
Strictly Jazz Unit<br>
<br>
<b>Uplink</b> [Live] - techno<br>
Abstrakt Entertainment, <br>
Clavitronics and y2k Records<br>
<br>
<b>More artists to be added soon=85<br>
<br>
</b>Contact Abstrakt Entertainment:<br>
<br>
PH: 513.588.6220<br>
FX: 513.558.5936<br>
<br>
Email: </font><font color=3D"#0000FF">abstrakt@alloymail.com<br>
<br>
</font><font color=3D"#000000">Web:
</font><a href=3D"http://www.abstraktentertainment.com/"=
 eudora=3D"autourl"><font=
 color=3D"#0000FF"><u>www.abstraktentertainment.com</a><br>
<br>
</font></u><font color=3D"#000000">Abstrakt Entertainment<br>
P.O. Box 19798<br>
Cincinnati, OH 45219<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 16:45:40 2000
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[atomly <atomly@atomly.com>]
> 
> My brother even has the 4F's tattoo on his
> forearm.
> 

NOW THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 16:48:27 2000
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apples and oranges

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 17:07:38 2000
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This is all I am saying about this thread:
  Stevie, do you even get the hint; when everyone is
making fun of you and no one is defending you..?  That
maybe you aren't exactly doing something right?  Can
you not tell that your a game on here?
 
 -The girls

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 17:29:08 2000
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HUGE!?   ARE YOU SAYING IT MAKES MY ASS LOOK BIG!?!

    -sorry
    -bill


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> hey, HUGE! is looking to put some 'zines into stores around here, could
> somebody please send me the addresses of some rave-related stores
> (records, clothes, etc.) in detroit and chicago?
> thanks.
>
>
> --
> the subliminal thought for the day is:
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I'm telling you, StevieT = Luke Monteiro.  They've GOT to be the same guy!


> This is all I am saying about this thread:
>   Stevie, do you even get the hint; when everyone is
> making fun of you and no one is defending you..?  That
> maybe you aren't exactly doing something right?  Can
> you not tell that your a game on here?
>  
>  -The girls
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> But alcohol and raving don't mix!  :P

WHHHAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT???????????!!!!!!!!!!!
ATOMLY SAY IT AINT SO!!!!

dont make me find another sean puffy colms!!!!
signed
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 17:38:03 2000
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> > But alcohol and raving don't mix!  :P
> 
> WHHHAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT???????????!!!!!!!!!!!
> ATOMLY SAY IT AINT SO!!!!

yeah atomly! i mean come on, have you ever seen *anything* more rave than
mc gotti drunk as shit on dirt cheap beer at destruction?? i dare you to
get more rave than that without mentioning doris! I DARE YOU!!

/j



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>> My brother even has the 4F's tattoo on his
>> forearm.
>> 
>
>NOW THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR...
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 19:03:10 2000
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Mmmmm...meth and wheaties...

Anyway, I'm sorry you have no humanistic morals and
ethics regarding the mistreatment of people. 
"Survival of the fittest" applies only to the animal
(or your) world.  Maybe you should seek help for you
testosterone imbalance.

To respond more directly to your points...
I never claimed to be there.  My reply was to the guy
who, like you, found it perfectly acceptable for other
people to suffer.  He never tried to discredit any
stories of abuse.  Instead he excused them.

If you don't like reading this (or anything else I
post) I suggest you make use of whatever filters are
available.

--Will

--- daniel sharp <kode_@hotmail.com> wrote:
> After reading the rubbish below I have decided to
> drop the PLUR shit and say 
> whats really on my fucking mind..
> 
>    Basically, from what I believe, and what I have
> read below. SHUT THE FUCK 
> UP you pussy little bastard.. A.. you didnt get your
> wallet stolen, nor do 
> you know anyone who has.. At least not at this
> party.. You are one of the 
> little annoyances that regularly spreads shit cause
> your life has too little 
> meaning so you rain on everyone elses parade. If you
> got your ass kicked, go 
> eat some wheaties and snorting crystal meth.. If you
> did get your ass 
> kicked, take them to court.. The basic point is..
> You didn't.. You are just 
> perpetuating someone elses attempt at skewing the
> facts of the night.. I had 
> friends who arrived from ohio, and didnt get let
> in..I know what its like.. 
> Been there, done it.. All the crying.. I HAD
> PRESALES AND DIDNT get in.. 
> Well fucking everyone had presales.. Its the idiots
> who showed up with cash 
> in hand that made the situation worse.. You people
> ruin it for yourselves 
> more and more everytime.. Let me guess, the
> raver-boi who got hit by the 
> police.. Lets see, I bet he didnt say anything and
> just stood there.. The 
> truth is. is that both sides are wrong..You just
> dont know the facts, but 
> wanna feel important by making up your own little
> stories.. Thats the 
> problem though, they are stories.. Stories made up
> in your mind... Enough of 
> this thread.. Enough of your insignificant crying...
>          Usually, Im all PLUR this and PLUR that...
> You kids just fucking 
> cry too much.. I have had my fill of it..
> 
>                              Now go play in traffic,
>                                 Much love,
>                                    Dan Sharp


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just a quick reminder for all of you in the area...

TOMORROW NIGHT!

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>
>An e-mail has been going around lately calling for the Great America
>Gas Out, it states, naively that Americans are sick of paying high prices
>for gasoline, and that we are victims of "oil cartels" that unfairly jack
>up the prices and force us to pay these outrageous prices.
>The simple truth of the matter is this: Americans don't mind paying for
>the price of gasoline. They may gripe and moan, but no grassroots
>effort to boycott gasoline purchases on a single day is going to make
>any damn difference. Consider these facts:
>
>                   -- Americans have moved farther and farther away from 
>smaller,
>more
>                    gasoline efficient vehicles. Currently, the best 
>selling
>vehicles are
>                    trucks and sport utility vehicles, despite the fact 
>that the
>Chevy
>                    Suburban, GMC Yukon and the soon to be released Ford 
>(the
>biggest
>                    of them all) get horrible gas mileage. (12 miles to the
>gallon and less.)
>
>                    -- There is a effort going on to reclaim the diamond 
>car pool
>lanes from
>                    highways because, big surprise, they are hardly used. 
>Studies
>have
>                    shown that carpool lanes simply take up space that 
>could be
>used by all
>                    the lone drivers in their SUVs. There are several 
>groups in
>the Los
>                    Angeles/Orange County areas who have found that the 
>diamond
>lanes
>                    have no effect on traffic, that carpooling is down and 
>that
>the best use
>                    of the would be as a fast lane, which they feel would 
>improve
>traffic.
>                    They are taking their case to the state transportation 
>board.
>
>                    -- General Motors forced roll-out of the EV1 electric 
>car was
>met with
>                    a cold shoulder by the typical American consumer. 
>Despite a
>massive
>                    advertising campaign a few years ago, the car sold less 
>than
>200
>                    vehicles in its first few months of release. Most of 
>the
>buyers were
>                    admitted environmental enthusiasts, like Ed Begley, 
>Jr., who
>wanted to
>                    make a statement with their green-conscious vehicles. 
>The
>rest of
>                    America was buying Explorers and Grand Cherokees.
>
>                    -- Despite years of trying to put up a much needed
>mass-transit system
>                    in and around L.A. and Orange County, the Metro-link 
>project
>has been
>                    plagued with problems and low ridership.
>
>                    -- Natural gas vehicles have been available for years, 
>but
>they are only
>                    widely used in government and private corporation 
>fleets,
>usually as
>                    service vehicles. (Mailtrucks and the like.)
>
>                    The whole thing breaks down to this: there is no secret
>cartel keeping
>                    the price of gasoline up. Economics are always driven 
>by one
>thing:
>                    market demand. Why is there no cheaper alternative fuel
>source? Some
>                    would say because the evil oil giants keep it from 
>happening.
>In truth,
>                    it's because consumers haven't demanded it. Pure and 
>simple.
>
>                    Some would say the technology for a more fuel-efficient
>vehicle is not
>                    there. Really? Twenty years ago the technology was 
>barely
>there for
>                    wireless phones, high-speed computers and a world wide
>computer
>                    network, yet all of these things are available today, 
>many of
>them
>                    extremely affordable. The basic gasoline-driven 
>combustion
>engine has
>                    remained relatively unchanged for almost a hundred 
>years.
>Sure they go
>                    faster, they work longer and put out more power, but 
>they
>still require a
>                    small explosion to drive the pistons and turn the 
>crank. For
>nearly a
>                    century we've relied on gasoline, and it doesn't seem 
>that
>we're in any
>                    hurry to stop, no matter what the prices are.
>
>                    Cars are idolized. They display our vanity and 
>personality.
>They are an
>                    integral part of our culture. I'm sure that someone out 
>there
>has tried to
>                    find a way to make their fuel more affordable, but the
>American
>                    consumer just isn't biting. Perhaps its because we're 
>very
>content just to
>                    pump the gas and not even look at the price.
>
>                    Greg Newcomb
>                    docnuke@aol.com
>
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In a message dated 2/29/00 8:07:54 AM Central Standard Time, 
sluck@frontiernet.net writes:

<<My personal opinion is ghb is substance with potential for use/
 misuse/ and abuse.  No mere thing is inherently bad mayb how it is used.. >>

This weekend, I did G for the first time, and I liked it...  a lot.  If it 
had lasted longer than an hour, I really think it would have been better than 
any pill I've ever taken.   Should I chose to do it again, it won't be for a 
while, as I can see how that stuff can really get addicting.  I think you 
just have to be responsible with your drug use.   Have someone there with you 
who knows what and howmuch you're doing.  The girl I was with made sure I 
knew everything she'd taken, and she knew about mine.


Jen Sixtybus
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I have some records for sale on e-Bay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=272687398


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In a message dated 2/29/00 2:08:07 PM !!!First Boot!!!, sluck@frontiernet.net 
writes:

>  My personal opinion is ghb is substance with potential for use/
>  misuse/ and abuse.  No mere thing is inherently bad mayb how it is used...
>  

I feel the same way.  

Actually, there was a point in E's history where people were uneducated 
and dropping like flies (maybe not dying, but a cop sees a 15 yr old pass
out and immediately wants to crash the party!)  Now, I guess it's Gs, turn.

Except this has a much serious problem.

With E, you do too much -- you pass out (or at least that was the history
that *WE* had in Indy).  With G, in two weeks two older ravers possibly
DIED from doing too much.  As promoters and concerned party kids, we
HAVE to stand hard against G, because the general public's lack of
education is alittle TOO LETHAL to allow to continue.  Local authorities
definitely won't allow G-related ODs (possible deaths) and the rave
scene to co-exist, why should we?


Yeah, G is no dif't from E, IMO -- save for the fact that our individual 
ignorance
on G is killing us.  The problem (and the fact) is that the public andlocal 
authorities
don't wanna hear "well, they just don't know how much to do and not do".  No, 
they
wanna simply hear that it's done.  And if that means shutting down each and 
every rave,
I'm sure they have no problem with that.

-Chocolate

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is that the guy from sunny day??  i forget...

chad

On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 05:07:30PM -0500, jes wrote:
> 
> went to see elliott smith play a sold out show at he empty bottle with
> derek....it was awesome!! emo's not usually my thing but i totally dug
> it, just elliott with his guitar on stage, singin away...he played angelus
> and say yes and rose parade and happiness and last call and son of sam.
> and some others i'm forgetting. i drank a vanilla stoli and coke and an
> amaretto stone sour (we did a couple mind erasers before we left the
> house). it was a great saturday night!
> 
> oh yeah, i got to see hawtin play for a little while too. photon was
> hotter than i remembered it being. i had to tie up my tank top all white
> trash knotted on the side stylee. jason111 gave me a slug off his flask of
> whiskey. i saw lots of poeple, and then i went home and went to sleep.
> 
> /j
> 
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sorry..  texas is the reason don't get to be called
emo.  

next thing you know people are gonna say ltj bukem 
is an emo band.


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> > emo's not usually my thing but i totally dug it
> 
> Haha!  We'll slowly convert you to the dark side!  You'll be listening to
> Jawbreaker, Promise Ring and Texas is the Reason before you know what hit
> you!
> 
> > jason111 gave me a slug off his flask of whiskey.
> 
> But alcohol and raving don't mix!  :P
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< Haha!  We'll slowly convert you to the dark side!  You'll be listening to
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It's a disease.. Especially the Promise Ring..  I like Jimmy Eat World a 
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there may not be any secret "oil cartel "but,speaking as a relatively 
working middle class male,i am personally sick of paying the rediculous 
price of gas nowadays and if there was any reasonable way i or any one else 
for that matter could do about it im sure it would be done .untill more of a 
majority openly express their annoyance with the prices there is really 
nothing i or anyone else can do about it.


>From: "dylan dorrell" <ddorrell@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "dylan dorrell" <ddorrell@hotmail.com>
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [mw] re: Gas Out-2000
>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:34:45 PST
>
>
>>
>>An e-mail has been going around lately calling for the Great America
>>Gas Out, it states, naively that Americans are sick of paying high prices
>>for gasoline, and that we are victims of "oil cartels" that unfairly jack
>>up the prices and force us to pay these outrageous prices.
>>The simple truth of the matter is this: Americans don't mind paying for
>>the price of gasoline. They may gripe and moan, but no grassroots
>>effort to boycott gasoline purchases on a single day is going to make
>>any damn difference. Consider these facts:
>>
>>                   -- Americans have moved farther and farther away from
>>smaller,
>>more
>>                    gasoline efficient vehicles. Currently, the best
>>selling
>>vehicles are
>>                    trucks and sport utility vehicles, despite the fact
>>that the
>>Chevy
>>                    Suburban, GMC Yukon and the soon to be released Ford
>>(the
>>biggest
>>                    of them all) get horrible gas mileage. (12 miles to 
>>the
>>gallon and less.)
>>
>>                    -- There is a effort going on to reclaim the diamond
>>car pool
>>lanes from
>>                    highways because, big surprise, they are hardly used.
>>Studies
>>have
>>                    shown that carpool lanes simply take up space that
>>could be
>>used by all
>>                    the lone drivers in their SUVs. There are several
>>groups in
>>the Los
>>                    Angeles/Orange County areas who have found that the
>>diamond
>>lanes
>>                    have no effect on traffic, that carpooling is down and
>>that
>>the best use
>>                    of the would be as a fast lane, which they feel would
>>improve
>>traffic.
>>                    They are taking their case to the state transportation
>>board.
>>
>>                    -- General Motors forced roll-out of the EV1 electric
>>car was
>>met with
>>                    a cold shoulder by the typical American consumer.
>>Despite a
>>massive
>>                    advertising campaign a few years ago, the car sold 
>>less
>>than
>>200
>>                    vehicles in its first few months of release. Most of
>>the
>>buyers were
>>                    admitted environmental enthusiasts, like Ed Begley,
>>Jr., who
>>wanted to
>>                    make a statement with their green-conscious vehicles.
>>The
>>rest of
>>                    America was buying Explorers and Grand Cherokees.
>>
>>                    -- Despite years of trying to put up a much needed
>>mass-transit system
>>                    in and around L.A. and Orange County, the Metro-link
>>project
>>has been
>>                    plagued with problems and low ridership.
>>
>>                    -- Natural gas vehicles have been available for years,
>>but
>>they are only
>>                    widely used in government and private corporation
>>fleets,
>>usually as
>>                    service vehicles. (Mailtrucks and the like.)
>>
>>                    The whole thing breaks down to this: there is no 
>>secret
>>cartel keeping
>>                    the price of gasoline up. Economics are always driven
>>by one
>>thing:
>>                    market demand. Why is there no cheaper alternative 
>>fuel
>>source? Some
>>                    would say because the evil oil giants keep it from
>>happening.
>>In truth,
>>                    it's because consumers haven't demanded it. Pure and
>>simple.
>>
>>                    Some would say the technology for a more 
>>fuel-efficient
>>vehicle is not
>>                    there. Really? Twenty years ago the technology was
>>barely
>>there for
>>                    wireless phones, high-speed computers and a world wide
>>computer
>>                    network, yet all of these things are available today,
>>many of
>>them
>>                    extremely affordable. The basic gasoline-driven
>>combustion
>>engine has
>>                    remained relatively unchanged for almost a hundred
>>years.
>>Sure they go
>>                    faster, they work longer and put out more power, but
>>they
>>still require a
>>                    small explosion to drive the pistons and turn the
>>crank. For
>>nearly a
>>                    century we've relied on gasoline, and it doesn't seem
>>that
>>we're in any
>>                    hurry to stop, no matter what the prices are.
>>
>>                    Cars are idolized. They display our vanity and
>>personality.
>>They are an
>>                    integral part of our culture. I'm sure that someone 
>>out
>>there
>>has tried to
>>                    find a way to make their fuel more affordable, but the
>>American
>>                    consumer just isn't biting. Perhaps its because we're
>>very
>>content just to
>>                    pump the gas and not even look at the price.
>>
>>                    Greg Newcomb
>>                    docnuke@aol.com
>>
>>
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as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like paying a lot for gas,
there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase in prices lately. call
me crazy, but it might make a few people think about the fact that oil is
a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of how easily we waste it.
also, the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices in the world as a result
of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no condition to complain,
middle class white male. ;P

dag!! i thought i stopped being political years ago!

/me goes back to being apathetic

/j

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, j.c. teeter wrote:

> there may not be any secret "oil cartel "but,speaking as a relatively 
> working middle class male,i am personally sick of paying the rediculous 
> price of gas nowadays and if there was any reasonable way i or any one else 
> for that matter could do about it im sure it would be done .untill more of a 
> majority openly express their annoyance with the prices there is really 
> nothing i or anyone else can do about it.




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Sure it would be nice if people started to finally use
gasoline sensibly and not buy gas guzzler cars that
eat a galon of gas every 12 miles, etc. However, in
the current situation, the rising prices bring OPEC
countries huge ass profit while increasing cost of
business in the States which is always passed on to
the end customer, you.
Call me a republican =)

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: as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like paying a lot for gas,
: there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase in prices lately. call
: me crazy, but it might make a few people think about the fact that oil is
: a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of how easily we waste it.

hear hear

sorry, i just keep seeing stuff that people say that i heartily agree
with...one liner posts be damned!

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Heaven for bid...  god no...  that americans...  WHITE MALE
AMERICANS...  may someday be forced to use...

MASS TRANSIT!

Those disgusting busses, intolerable trains, and other miscellaenous
abominations make me nauseous.  The thought of not having my very own
personal gas guzzler makes me want to cry.

I may as well just kill myself now, before I'm exposed to the ridiculous
price of gas (I don't own a car) or have to use that ridiculous silly
little thing referred to as "mass transit" (I live in a cave and never go
anywhere).
--
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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, jes wrote:

> 
> as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like paying a lot for gas,
> there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase in prices lately. call
> me crazy, but it might make a few people think about the fact that oil is
> a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of how easily we waste it.
> also, the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices in the world as a result
> of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no condition to complain,
> middle class white male. ;P
> 
> dag!! i thought i stopped being political years ago!
> 
> /me goes back to being apathetic
> 
> /j
> 
> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, j.c. teeter wrote:
> 
> > there may not be any secret "oil cartel "but,speaking as a relatively 
> > working middle class male,i am personally sick of paying the rediculous 
> > price of gas nowadays and if there was any reasonable way i or any one else 
> > for that matter could do about it im sure it would be done .untill more of a 
> > majority openly express their annoyance with the prices there is really 
> > nothing i or anyone else can do about it.
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In a message dated 2/29/0 4:16:46 PM, gregori wrote:

<<YOU BEG FOR PITY AND BRAG FOR EGO TO A MAIL LIST>>

YOU'RE A RACIST WITH A SUPERIORITY COMPLEX THAT
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actually, there have been studies on depleted oil wells recently and they've found
that the oil is already being replentished in them.  this is in wells that have
gone dry just in the last 50 years or so.. i'll have to try and find where i heard
that lil tid-bit o information and post it up here, but alas i'm at work right now
and have some more programming to do at the moment.


jes wrote:

> as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like paying a lot for gas,
> there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase in prices lately. call
> me crazy, but it might make a few people think about the fact that oil is
> a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of how easily we waste it.
> also, the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices in the world as a result
> of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no condition to complain,
> middle class white male. ;P
>
> dag!! i thought i stopped being political years ago!
>
> /me goes back to being apathetic
>
> /j
>
> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, j.c. teeter wrote:
>
> > there may not be any secret "oil cartel "but,speaking as a relatively
> > working middle class male,i am personally sick of paying the rediculous
> > price of gas nowadays and if there was any reasonable way i or any one else
> > for that matter could do about it im sure it would be done .untill more of a
> > majority openly express their annoyance with the prices there is really
> > nothing i or anyone else can do about it.
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and not a bit of any of that matters when it runs out. not trying to argue,
just saying.

you dirty republican russian commie pussy ass trance dj

you really need to cut back some there...it's starting to get a little out
of hand...can't you quit spinning trance or something? ;]

pixie


: Sure it would be nice if people started to finally use
: gasoline sensibly and not buy gas guzzler cars that
: eat a galon of gas every 12 miles, etc. However, in
: the current situation, the rising prices bring OPEC
: countries huge ass profit while increasing cost of
: business in the States which is always passed on to
: the end customer, you.
: Call me a republican =)
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In a message dated 2/29/0 5:07:58 PM, you wrote:

<<when everyone is making fun of you and no one is 
defending you..?  That maybe you aren't exactly doing 
something right?  Can you not tell that your a game on 
here?>>

no one is defending me but myself because the false
accusations were against me!...duh!

i hope some day you get mistreated & instead of people
helping you, they jump on the bandwagon & kick you
while your down...

karma is a killer, you'll get yours...


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In a message dated 2/29/0 5:33:35 PM, nhgarlan wrote:

<<'m telling you, StevieT = Luke Monteiro.  They've GOT to 
be the same guy>>

i'm telling you nhgarlan = elmer fudd...they've got to be the
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> i hope some day you get mistreated & instead of people
> helping you, they jump on the bandwagon & kick you
> while your down...
> 
> karma is a killer, you'll get yours...


hey now.  that's no way to talk to your porn*star roomiez!


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True...when you run out of shit, shit gets wack =)
I *heart* gasoline =)
BUT!
I think the only reason we're not seeing much of
alternative fuel out there is because we have shitpot
of oil. Trust me, if large corporations saw a direct
threat to their business because they would run out of
natural resources, they'd be pumping billions of
dollars into alternative fuel engines and such.
Then again, who gives a shit. And didn't you know that
I spin disco house now?

DJ
Russiancommiepussytrancedjbitchwhonowspinsdiscohouse

P.S. Did I mention that I like horses?

--- pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote:
> and not a bit of any of that matters when it runs
> out. not trying to argue,
> just saying.
> 
> you dirty republican russian commie pussy ass trance
> dj
> 
> you really need to cut back some there...it's
> starting to get a little out
> of hand...can't you quit spinning trance or
> something? ;]
> 
> pixie
> 
> 

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typical self centered white male attitude...did you
graduate from the gregori school of ignorance?

um, did it ever occur to you that truck drivers and
other workers that have to drive for a living may
not share the same sentiment as you, since they
are getting the same wages...yet, they have to pay 
more out of their pocket now...in fact, there was
just a big news story about how alot of truckers
are going out of business because of this...

and this just doesn't effect truckers, it effects:
taxi drivers, pizza deliverers, driving salesmen,
anybody that has to drive a good distance to work!

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> no one is defending me but myself because the false
> accusations were against me!...duh!
> 
> i hope some day you get mistreated & instead of
> people
> helping you, they jump on the bandwagon & kick you
> while your down...
> 
> karma is a killer, you'll get yours...


You reap what you sow, hunnycat.. You wouldnt be
having to defend yourself if you didnt start stupid
shit.  And we're not railing you at all..  As much as
you piss us off sometimes, we're not going to sit here
and get in a flame war with you.. when we could walk
in the other room :)  I just think... there should
come a time when you OPEN YOUR EYES.

Your "pornstar" roomiez 
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on this note...gas on canada is almost twice as much as in the u.s. at the
moment.

ponder that thought.

bekka.

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> > the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices in the world as a result
> of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no condition to complain,
> middle class white male. ;P
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 29 21:54:01 2000
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I rode the bus fer years, and I think its kinda cool.
Every day you see examples of what not to do.
And on your way to work or school thats really motivating.

Try it

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You have a point, and Jawbreaker = negative emo, they have no 
charecteristics which would allow them to be classified this way. Try 
hardcore. So many people misuse this term "emo". I could compare it to 
someone who is unfamiliar with house music labels it jungle when they hear 
it.

>-----------------------e: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:04:53 -0600
>From: chad cumby <cumby@uiuc.edu>
>Subject: Re: [mw] saturday night cr/action
>
>sorry..  texas is the reason don't get to be called
>emo.
>
>next thing you know people are gonna say ltj bukem
>is an emo band.



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I ride a short yellow bus.

It's short and yellow.


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denied & overruled...

YOU STILL BEG FOR PITY AND BRAG FOR EGO TO A MAIL LIST

end of discussion...do not reply, you pathetic jackass.


Steviet069@aol.com wrote:

> <<YOU BEG FOR PITY AND BRAG FOR EGO TO A MAIL LIST>>
>
> YOU'RE A RACIST WITH A SUPERIORITY COMPLEX THAT
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>CC: ball-st8-ravers@egroups.com
>Subject: Fwd: [iu-ravers] SATURDAY MARCH 18, PLEASURE 
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>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 17:37:10 EST
>
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At Tuesday, 29 February 2000, Sixtybus@aol.com wrote:

>< Haha!  We'll slowly convert you to the dark side!  You'll be listening 
to
> > Jawbreaker, Promise Ring and Texas is the Reason before you know 
what hit
> > you! >>
>
>It's a disease.. Especially the Promise Ring..  I like Jimmy Eat 
World a 
>whole lot too.  
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is a great fucking album.
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You know, on Sunday and Saturday night I was pretty pissed off at Boogie
Tribe, but after reading up on it, hearing other friends expierences in my
mind it's not so bad.  Boogie Tribe has my respect for owning up to what
happened and giving us an explanation.  It sounds like sercurity was
pretty much out of their hands and in the hands of the Harvey Police
department, and that's exactly why things got fucked up.  And things get
fucked up.  I will go back to Chicago in the future even though I've had
two really bad parties in a row.  So I've said my piece.  Enough about the
LOTD3 shit, it's depressing me.  I'm just looking forward to the future
parties coming up..  It looks like March is going to be a great month,
atleast around Madison.  

-Shane 


> For those left outside, there was no excuse for the disgraceful events that 
> occurred.  What can we do?  People hate us, and rightfully so.
> We told security WE are paying them, and they said, "you want your party to 
> end"?  We hired a private security firm that never got to do the job they do 
> best, ....that is to search people quickly, and respectfully.  The most 
> we're doing is giving people their money back and providing guest list for 
> our events.  People are calling us
> thieves, crooks, heartless, liars, money-hungry and everything else in the 
> book.
> You know what, there is nothing we can do about it.  Only time will dictate 
> how we can prove people wrong.  We're not out to hurt people, and we're not 
> out to rip people off.  Do you think we set up a show of such magnitude, 
> just to make our customers not want to come to our events again.  If so, we 
> are the dumbest promoters the world has ever known.  Those who know us 
> personally know we are good human beings.
> We never meant for things to get out of control.  We are not your
> fly-by-night rave promoter, but obviously, that is what people will take us 
> for.
> Pretty soon we will have a letter on our web site dedicated to everyone who 
> was harassed and outraged by the circumstances that occurred at the event.
> We will gladly refund your money:
> 1) Send your tickets to the following address
> Jose Rodriguez/Boogie Tribe
> P.O. Box 23542
> Chicago, IL 60623
> 2) Send a return address along with the tickets
> 3) We will verify security markers on the ticket
> 4) We will then send your money back
> 5) You'll also receive a letter explaining the circumstances
> 
> Once again we apologize. We were just as outraged as anyone else.  Give us 
> an opportunity to show justice to you and your friends. You supported our 
> event, and we were not their for you!  We are willing to take a huge loss 
> because although we couldn't control security, it was ultimately our event.
> Thank you for giving us hell, just as many others are!  This will only make 
> us better promoters.  We are guaranteed to lose thousands of customers 
> forever, but we won't quit.  We'll continue to bring the best the world has 
> to offer, and hopefully one day, people we'll see that we are one of the 
> first promoters to take a stand and do what is right.
> -Peace & Respect,
> Boogie Tribe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Shane Mook <smook@ravernet.org>
> >To: info@boogietribe.com
> >Subject: LOTD3 Presales
> >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:17:16 -0600 (CST)
> >
> >Hey,
> >
> >I have three tickets for LOTD3 that I was unable to use cause I couldn't
> >get into the venue - Me and my friends sat in line from 9:30 up until the
> >tent was rushed and without really moving.  After the riot our will was
> >broken and we decided to head back to Madison.  Is there any way we can
> >atleast get some compensation for these tickets?  I guess getting our
> >money back would be nice, but even just admittance to a future party of
> >yours or something.  It just really sucks that what happened happened, and
> >that we all lost 36$ in the process.  Thanks for taking time to read this,
> >hope to hear from you....
> >
> >-Shane
> >
> 
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><<YOU BEG FOR PITY AND BRAG FOR EGO TO A MAIL LIST>>
>
>YOU'RE A RACIST WITH A SUPERIORITY COMPLEX THAT
>HAS TO MAKE UP LIES TO HIDE YOUR INSECURITIES!
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In my opinion it is probably because the oil companies
are some of the biggest companies out their and have a
pretty big lobby.
Our economy would have a big change if alternative
fuels were put into major affect, therefore we keep
raping the earth in the usuall attempt to make dollars
and bills.
Kind of sad, seeing as a change to alternative fuels
has got to be inevitable since oil is not a renewable
resource.  Hell we already have the capability to
change to various other sources of fuel that are
renewable, but that would threaten those oil companies
and we cant have that can we.
Anyway, I guess im kind of a hipocrite though, seeing
as I own a car that runs on petrolium based gas, and I
do like to drive that fucker all over the place.  So
in the long run I guess I'm just as guilty as those
oil companies.  
signed 
Jon "waiting for the car of my dreams that runs off of
alchohol (beer or rum preferebly)" Gotti

--- Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> True...when you run out of shit, shit gets wack =)
> I *heart* gasoline =)
> BUT!
> I think the only reason we're not seeing much of
> alternative fuel out there is because we have
> shitpot
> of oil. Trust me, if large corporations saw a direct
> threat to their business because they would run out
> of
> natural resources, they'd be pumping billions of
> dollars into alternative fuel engines and such.
> Then again, who gives a shit. And didn't you know
> that
> I spin disco house now?
> 
> DJ
> Russiancommiepussytrancedjbitchwhonowspinsdiscohouse
> 
> P.S. Did I mention that I like horses?
> 
> --- pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote:
> > and not a bit of any of that matters when it runs
> > out. not trying to argue,
> > just saying.
> > 
> > you dirty republican russian commie pussy ass
> trance
> > dj
> > 
> > you really need to cut back some there...it's
> > starting to get a little out
> > of hand...can't you quit spinning trance or
> > something? ;]
> > 
> > pixie
> > 
> > 
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Well, at least one of the car manufacturers (I forgot which one) is coming
out with a gas/electric hybrid car that gets about 80 miles per gallon.  
OPEC sucks,
Jerry

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On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> In my opinion it is probably because the oil companies
> are some of the biggest companies out their and have a
> pretty big lobby.
> Our economy would have a big change if alternative
> fuels were put into major affect, therefore we keep
> raping the earth in the usuall attempt to make dollars
> and bills.
> Kind of sad, seeing as a change to alternative fuels
> has got to be inevitable since oil is not a renewable
> resource.  Hell we already have the capability to
> change to various other sources of fuel that are
> renewable, but that would threaten those oil companies
> and we cant have that can we.
> Anyway, I guess im kind of a hipocrite though, seeing
> as I own a car that runs on petrolium based gas, and I
> do like to drive that fucker all over the place.  So
> in the long run I guess I'm just as guilty as those
> oil companies.  
> signed 
> Jon "waiting for the car of my dreams that runs off of
> alchohol (beer or rum preferebly)" Gotti
> 
> --- Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > True...when you run out of shit, shit gets wack =)
> > I *heart* gasoline =)
> > BUT!
> > I think the only reason we're not seeing much of
> > alternative fuel out there is because we have
> > shitpot
> > of oil. Trust me, if large corporations saw a direct
> > threat to their business because they would run out
> > of
> > natural resources, they'd be pumping billions of
> > dollars into alternative fuel engines and such.
> > Then again, who gives a shit. And didn't you know
> > that
> > I spin disco house now?
> > 
> > DJ
> > Russiancommiepussytrancedjbitchwhonowspinsdiscohouse
> > 
> > P.S. Did I mention that I like horses?
> > 
> > --- pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote:
> > > and not a bit of any of that matters when it runs
> > > out. not trying to argue,
> > > just saying.
> > > 
> > > you dirty republican russian commie pussy ass
> > trance
> > > dj
> > > 
> > > you really need to cut back some there...it's
> > > starting to get a little out
> > > of hand...can't you quit spinning trance or
> > > something? ;]
> > > 
> > > pixie
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
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I think your reply, Stevie, is how some of us view
you.

--Will

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> In a message dated 2/29/0 4:16:46 PM, gregori wrote:
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> <<YOU BEG FOR PITY AND BRAG FOR EGO TO A MAIL LIST>>
> 
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That doesn't make sence, it may be true, but that
still dont make no sence.
Oil is a substance that is usually created from dead
organic materials over the course of thousands of
years, or at least that is what I was taught.
New oil being produced in just 50 years would
completely fuck that thinking up.
But, somehow, I just dont believe that is possible, I
would really like to see that report, and also see who
the report was done by, and possibly if this is some
strange phenominon.


--- Grant <grant@techgallery.com> wrote:
> actually, there have been studies on depleted oil
> wells recently and they've found
> that the oil is already being replentished in them. 
> this is in wells that have
> gone dry just in the last 50 years or so.. i'll have
> to try and find where i heard
> that lil tid-bit o information and post it up here,
> but alas i'm at work right now
> and have some more programming to do at the moment.
> 
> 
> jes wrote:
> 
> > as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like
> paying a lot for gas,
> > there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase
> in prices lately. call
> > me crazy, but it might make a few people think
> about the fact that oil is
> > a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of
> how easily we waste it.
> > also, the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices
> in the world as a result
> > of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no
> condition to complain,
> > middle class white male. ;P
> >
> > dag!! i thought i stopped being political years
> ago!
> >
> > /me goes back to being apathetic
> >
> > /j
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, j.c. teeter wrote:
> >
> > > there may not be any secret "oil cartel
> "but,speaking as a relatively
> > > working middle class male,i am personally sick
> of paying the rediculous
> > > price of gas nowadays and if there was any
> reasonable way i or any one else
> > > for that matter could do about it im sure it
> would be done .untill more of a
> > > majority openly express their annoyance with the
> prices there is really
> > > nothing i or anyone else can do about it.
> >
> > -
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At 05:52 PM 2/29/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Well, at least one of the car manufacturers (I forgot which one) is coming
>out with a gas/electric hybrid car that gets about 80 miles per gallon.  
>OPEC sucks,

honda.

and it's already available.  i saw one on the road yesterday.

pretty nice looking if you're looking for a hatchback too.

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HOUSE MUSIC ALL NIGHT LONG!!

On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:

> That doesn't make sence, it may be true, but that
> still dont make no sence.
> Oil is a substance that is usually created from dead
> organic materials over the course of thousands of
> years, or at least that is what I was taught.
> New oil being produced in just 50 years would
> completely fuck that thinking up.
> But, somehow, I just dont believe that is possible, I
> would really like to see that report, and also see who
> the report was done by, and possibly if this is some
> strange phenominon.
> 
> 
> --- Grant <grant@techgallery.com> wrote:
> > actually, there have been studies on depleted oil
> > wells recently and they've found
> > that the oil is already being replentished in them. 
> > this is in wells that have
> > gone dry just in the last 50 years or so.. i'll have
> > to try and find where i heard
> > that lil tid-bit o information and post it up here,
> > but alas i'm at work right now
> > and have some more programming to do at the moment.
> > 
> > 
> > jes wrote:
> > 
> > > as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like
> > paying a lot for gas,
> > > there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase
> > in prices lately. call
> > > me crazy, but it might make a few people think
> > about the fact that oil is
> > > a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of
> > how easily we waste it.
> > > also, the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices
> > in the world as a result
> > > of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no
> > condition to complain,
> > > middle class white male. ;P
> > >
> > > dag!! i thought i stopped being political years
> > ago!
> > >
> > > /me goes back to being apathetic
> > >
> > > /j
> > >
> > > On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, j.c. teeter wrote:
> > >
> > > > there may not be any secret "oil cartel
> > "but,speaking as a relatively
> > > > working middle class male,i am personally sick
> > of paying the rediculous
> > > > price of gas nowadays and if there was any
> > reasonable way i or any one else
> > > > for that matter could do about it im sure it
> > would be done .untill more of a
> > > > majority openly express their annoyance with the
> > prices there is really
> > > > nothing i or anyone else can do about it.
> > >
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anyone who's familiar with the club scene in cincinnati help me out here.
if you were gonna bring a live band to cincy that would draw 300-400 ppl,
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> Well, at least one of the car manufacturers (I forgot which one) is coming
> out with a gas/electric hybrid car that gets about 80 miles per gallon.
> OPEC sucks,
> Jerry

    Honda's Insight is out right now, looks like kind of a CRX for the new
millenium... it's $20,000, and in limited production, and they're losing
money on it right now. I agree, OPEC sucks, oil companies should be the
first people to be researching alternative fuels, not the largest force
against it. If they don't do it, someone else will be rich in their place in
50 years.

        -- Matt Murphy --



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    I would be willing to bet it's not that new oil is being created, but
that the oil near that oil field is just seeping into the big hole in the
ground where there used to be a bunch of oil.

        -- Matt Murphy --

> That doesn't make sence, it may be true, but that
> still dont make no sence.
> Oil is a substance that is usually created from dead
> organic materials over the course of thousands of
> years, or at least that is what I was taught.
> New oil being produced in just 50 years would
> completely fuck that thinking up.
> But, somehow, I just dont believe that is possible, I
> would really like to see that report, and also see who
> the report was done by, and possibly if this is some
> strange phenominon.



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It must suck to be you Stevie.  I really mean that, it must suck so fucking
bad.  Your anti-social and you spend most of your existence arguing with
people, complaining, and trying to prove your worth to people who really
don't give a fuck.  Lighten up a little.  Try not to be so confrontational.
 Express your opinions in a nicer manner and quit saying things that you
know will provoke people.  You'll probably find that's it's a little more
fun to discuss than argue.
Hope some of this sinks in, even though I doubt it will.



At 04:17 PM 02/29/2000 EST, Steviet069@aol.com wrote:
>
>In a message dated 2/29/0 5:07:58 PM, you wrote:
>
><<when everyone is making fun of you and no one is 
>defending you..?  That maybe you aren't exactly doing 
>something right?  Can you not tell that your a game on 
>here?>>
>
>no one is defending me but myself because the false
>accusations were against me!...duh!
>
>i hope some day you get mistreated & instead of people
>helping you, they jump on the bandwagon & kick you
>while your down...
>
>karma is a killer, you'll get yours...
>
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Its all about Fuel Cell Technology

Check this shit out:


http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=FUEL+CELL+plug+fcl+bld+ava+dte+gpu+utc+mhtx+satc+
pke+eil+utxltnx+splh+gm+bne&d=t

If you have any money put it here.


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Luke Rider <zaphod@spacestar.net> wrote:

>Heaven for bid...  god no...  that americans...  WHITE MALE
>AMERICANS...  may someday be forced to use...
>
>MASS TRANSIT!
>
>Those disgusting busses, intolerable trains, and other miscellaenous
>abominations make me nauseous.  The thought of not having my very own
>personal gas guzzler makes me want to cry.

I'll ride transit if it's done right (Boston's T is a good example). But
the Indianapolis bus system is a joke, and I'd waste too much time if I
relied on it for my transportation needs. When my lease is up, I think I'm
going to move downtown so I can *walk* to school.

As for the high gas prices... they're still low compared to what you'll pay
in Europe, and my small car is pretty fuel-efficient. Heh, it serves the
SUVers right. ;-P

MWC 


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Participate in this and let's see what happens.
They say that we are only separated from each other by six degrees.
Where do e-mails go?

This is an experiment.  It started in 1998. I hope it will seem interesting 
enough to you to make you want to participate.

Email messages fly to and fro, all over the world.  Lots of jokes, cute 
sayings, etc., seem to take on a life of their own as they get forwarded to 
more and more Email addresses.

I've often thought that it is too bad we can't see where these well-traveled
messages have been. I'll bet we'd be amazed at the list of addresses some 
have visited. There is a way to find out.

Just add your first name, location, date and maybe a very short comment
(1 line only) to the bottom of this message and send it out to your list of 
Email friends.  Eventually it may return to you. If it does, you'll be able 
to see all the places it has been since it first left your computer.

 (Cut and paste, DON'T FWD - keep it tidy.This means removing the footers and 
addresses, too!)

1.  Allen, Buckinghamshire, England, 29 Jun 1998, (originator of this 
message.)
2.  LuJane, Palouse Washington (and Potlatch Idaho)
3.  Lynne, Newark, California, 30 June 1998
4.  Judi, Lillington, NC - 7-1-98
5.  Tammy, Washington, The state (6-30-98)
6.  Marie, Manteca, california
7.  Carla, Kent, Washington (state), 6-30-98
8.  Dedri, Washington, 6-30-98
9.  Joni, Dayton, Ohio 6/2/98
10.  Johnny Boy, Cleveland, Ohio 1998.07.02
11.  Ciara, Suffern, New York 7-4-98
12.  Carol, Reno, Nevada 7-4-98
13.  Anne, Oregon 7/4/98 Happy 4th of July
14.  Docia, Tampa, FL 7-4-98
15.  Theresa, Millbrae, CA 7-4
16.  Verna, San Diego,CA.  7/4/98
17.  Lois, Littlefield, Tx.  7/4/98
18.  Pattie, Albany, NY 7/4/98
19.  Sharon, Kent,WA 7/4/98
20.  Arnoldo, Poughkeepsie, NY 7/5/98
21.  Patricia, NJ 7/5/98
22.  Kate: Sydney, Australia.  7/5/98
23.  Pat, Virginia Beach, Va.  7/5/98
24.  Peg, Akron, Ohio 7/6/98
25.  Barbara, Bornheim, Germany 07-06-98, Nice idea...
26.  Dorothy, Long Island New York
27.  Rita, Holyoke, Massachusetts 07/06/98 Keep it going!
28.  Millie, Northern California 7/6/98
29.  Gloria, Stone Mountain, GA.  Keep it going!  7/6/98
30.  Kathleen, Seattle Washington USA 7/6/98
31.  Papai (John Legge), Pikeville, KY USA 7/7/98 (cute idea!)
32.  Scarlet (Robin), Tampa, FL 7/7/98 (hope someone keeps track!)
33.  Tina, NJ, 7-7-98.  Too cool!
34.  Lisa, El Paso, Texas 7/7/98.  Sheesh, I get to sign on my age
35.  Andrea, Lampertheim, Germany, 7/7/98
36.  Dave, Zanesville, OH, 7/8/98
37.  Erik, Zanesville, OH 7/9/98
38.  Karen, Bloomsbury, NJ 7/9/98
39.  Rowen, Haddonfield, NJ, USA 7/10/1998
40.  Shivaun, Haddonfield, NJ 7/13/98 May nice weather follow you...
41.  Marcus, Toronto, ON Canada 7/13/98 God Speed
42.  Len & Silke Lovett, Toronto,On, Canada 7/14/98 Cool!
43.  Mark and Chrissi, Bradord, On, Canada 7/19/98 wooo hooooo!!
44.  Carmen Thompson, Victoria, BC, Canada 7/20/98 Very cool idea!!
45.  Jon and Michelle, Kitchener, Ont, Canada
46.  Brande, Nebraska,USA 7-21-98
47.  Carol, Illinois USA 7-21-98
48.  Scott, Edmonds Washington 7-21-98..wouldn't it be cool if this came back 
to you in 6 months with hundreds of names
49.  Edward, Naval Vessel off Coast of Hawaii, 7-21-98
50.  Jimmy "K", Silverdale, Washington (USA), 21JULY1998
51.  Bart and Barnie, Manila, Philippines/Singapore,98-7-22
52.  Humphrey and Chester - NJ 98-7-23
53.  Baby D., New York, New York - 07/23/1998
54.  Gene Paul P., Manila, Phils.  - 7/24/98 - Go with the flow!!!!
55.  Alejandro J.  Dizon, Singapore - 3:20 - 7/24/98 - like to travel
56.  Phen, Singapore, 24-07-1998 -- hope this comes back to me!
57.  Bhan, Charlotte, NC, 07/24/1998 -- sigh...
58.  Aileen C.  F.  - Charlotte, N.C.,7/24/98 -- this is great!!!...
59.  Jenny T.  Ayroso, Philippines, 7/28/98, -- this is cool!!!
60.  Dennis M.  Ofiaza, Philippines, 7/28/98, --
61.  Myla F.  Rapadas, Philippines, 7/29/98, -- GODSPEED!!!
62.  Elisa Lee, Philippines, 7/30/98 -- GOD BLESS YOU!!!
63.  Jonas M.  (S_A_P), Washington DC, 08/03/98 - take care!
64.  Ellen B.  Arellano, Philippines, 08/03/98 - keep it going!!
65.  Noel G., Chicago, IL 1998-08-04(Y2K Compliant) -
66 Maris, Philippines 08/07/98 - God bless!
67.  Lian / Ning, Philippines, 08/07/98
68.  Ceny/Vicky, San Jose, California, 08/06/98 (would love to see this again)
69.  Carlos Sicat, Santa Ana, California,08/07/98 (best place to be..)
70.  Christina, San Antonio, Texas, 8-8-98
71.  Lynnette Aaron, San Antonio, Tx, 8-9-98
72.  Meg Johnson, San Antonio, Tx, 8/9/98
73.  Ben Revell, Helotes, TX, 8/9/98 :op
74.  Kim Branson, San Antonio, TX, 8/9/98 :-)
75.  Aaron, San Antonio, TX, 8/10/98 (#150...plz snd toFordPrfct5@aol.com)
76.  Trent, San Antonio TX, 8/10/98 ( and to mee too !)
77.  Woody, San Antonio, TX (Dick's Last Resort!!!!)
78.  BJ, *Woody's Mom, Edwardsburg, Mi, Love these things.
79.  Charline, Tampa, Fl.  8/11/98
80.  Ruth, St.  Louis, MO (wonderful idea.) 8/11/98
81.  Rita, Willowbrook, IL (Lets do it) 8/11/98
82.  Kitty, Naples, FL 8/12/98
83.  Suzie, Naples, FL 8/12/98
84.  Wendy Wald, Naples,Fl.  8/12/98 (great idea!Thanks!)
85.  Peppa, North Carolina 8/12/98 (keep it going!)
86.  Glenn C, Houston,TX 8/12/98
87.  Andy C (Glenn's son) Seattle, WA.  8/17/98.
88.  Keli V., Houston, TX 8/18/98 (Happy Trails)
89.  Blaine KH, Amsterdam, Netherlands 08/24/98 like to get this around the 
world)
90.  Graham & Mina Northcott, Manila, Philippines (we will wait & see.)
91.  Jean Batac (DU1-JAN ) Manila, Philippines
92.  Cecile Ventura, Makati, Philippines (This is fun!)
93.  Mie Carpio, ANU, Canberra,Australia Don't break it, keep it going!)
94.  Lourdes Ojeda, Peking, China, 29 Aug.  1998 (Go for it!)
95.  Cora L.  Sta.  Ana, Peking, China, 30 Aug.  1998 go around the world 
with it
96.  Jenny Yong, Singapore, August 31, 1998
97.  SBee, Singapore, August 31,1998 (When will I see you again?)
98.  Jimmy Oh, Singapore, August 31, 1998.  By Choice We Became Friends
99.  Sharon Lim, Singapore, August 31, 1998 'Truly, Madly,Deeply'...
100.  Eric Tan , Singapore ,03 sep ,1998 "HelloWorld.Just Do it!!!:P
101.  Ong Beng Tiong, Singapore, 04 Sep 1998
102.  Louis Tan, Singapore, 04 Sep 1998 (Let's see how it goes)
103.  Angeline Ng, Singapore, 04 September 1998 (GOD BLESSYOU!)
104.  Rebecca Ng, Singapore, 09 September 1998 (Let it flow)
105.  Lim Swee Ling, Singapore, 09 September 1998
106.  Lee Yan Chin, Singapore,10 Sep 98 - Seize the day!
107.  Koh Kah Kiong, Singapore, 10 Sep 98 - see you:
108.  Meng Huei, Singapore, 11 Sep 1998 - :)
109.  Wai Fun, Singapore, 11 Sep 1998 - Hello, World !
110.  Katherine, Singapore, 11 Sep 1998 - hmmmm...this is interesting!
111.  Adam J.C.  Lok, Singapore, 11 Sep'98 It's a Small World Afterall...
112.  Sandy C, Singapore, 14 Sep 98 - This is get connected to the world now
113.  Veronica Kusnadi, Indonesia, 14 Sep 98 - Cool.wait for you to come back
114.  Honny Kandany, Jakarta, Indonesia, 14/9/98 - Keep this going..and going.
115.  Rosalina, Surabaya, Indonesia, Sep 14, 98 - Yeah, why not! thanks,Hon!
116.  Hendy, Bandung, Indonesia, Sep 15, 98 - this is cool !
117.  Lien, Twin City, Minnesota, USA,Sep.14,98-roundand round we go.
118.  Josephine, Arcadia, CA.  USA, Sept.14, 1998 -Round the world in--days?
119.  Diane, San Diego, CA, USA, Oct 5, 1998 - well, I did my part!
120.  jp, Alexandria VA, USofA, Oct 6,1998 - Hotpotatoe!!
121.  Shelby, Richmond, Va.  USA, 10-6-98 (At last, Good wishes to all!
122.  Shannon, Blacksburg, VA USA, 10-7-98 (Hey everyone!!)
123.  Suzanne, Salisbury, MD (and Lorton, VA) 10-7-98
124.  Ashena, Salisbury, MD (Baltimore County, MD)10-7-98 T
125.  Meghann, Reisterstown, MD 10-7-98
126.  Christy Nicole Keen, MO, USA, 10-7-98 WOW!!  this is kewl
127.  Tracy, Burbank, IL 10-7-98
128.  Debbie, River Forest IL 10-8-98
129.  Chris, Milwaukee, WI 10-8-98
130.  Katie Northenscold, Milwaukee, WI, USA 10-8-98
131.  Stacey Allbee, St.  Paul, Minnesota: Keep this messege going.
132.  David Yeiter, Ft.  Hood, Texas, USA 10-13-98: Have fun with this 
everyone.
133.  Patrick H.  Riggs; U.S.  SouthCom Miami, FL; 14 October 98;
134.  Shannon Kurlytis; Reno NV 14 October 1998....
135.  Gina Worswick;Reno, NV Pretty cool Plz keep it going everyone!
136.  Nancy, Piscataway, NJ October26, 1998 ; )
137.  Bette Jo, South Plainfield,NJ October 27,1998 -Let this fly on Angels 
wings
138.  Scott M.  Piscataway, NJ 10/28/98 Pretty cool!!!
139.  Lisa Mt.  Laurel, NJ 29 Oct 1998.
140.  Gregg, Linden, NJ 10/29/98-
141.  Rick W.Fairless Hills Pa.  Oct.30,1998 -
142.  Alma, San Jose, CA, Oct 30, 1998.....it's fantastic!  Keep it going
143.  Jared, Ukiah, Ca...Oct.  30, 1998
144.  Naomi, Syracuse NY, Oct 31 ..  Im The 1st on HALOWEEN!!  :o)
145.  Michelle, Poughkeepsie, N.Y...Sent on Oct.31st...
146.  Howard, Lake Carmel, NY..near the end of Halloween night :)
147.  Donna, Brewster,NY Nov 1st..  I'm the first in November...
148.  Sue, Parsippany, NJ Nov.1st...
149.  Debbie, Harrisonville, Mo.  Nov 1 1998.......May God Bless all
151.  Bill, Bryan Texas, Nov 1st,1998.......
152.  Jack, Bryan Texas, Nov 1st,1998.........
153.  Susie, Bryan Texas, Nov 1st, 1998.......Pretty cool...peace all
154.  Tiffany Bell, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nov 1, 1998.
155.  Kris Bell, Dallas, TX November 2, 1998...
156.  Holly Lopez, Dallas, Tx, Nov.  3, 1998...
157.  Nicci A., Dallas, TX, Nov.  6, 1998...
158.  Megan Eads Richardson, TX 11/6/98-
159.  Jacque Y.  Abilene TX 11/6/98-
160.  Wendy Daniel Abilene TX 11/7/98- SMILE :)
161.  Damon Berry Abilene TX 11/8/98 (Available)
162.  Kelli Berry:-) Keller, TX 11/8/98 (hey...)
163.  Becky Middleton, Abilene, TX 11/9/98---
164.  Roger Garland, Texas 11/10/98
165.  Aaron DeSoto, Texas 11/10/98
166.  Paul, Dallas, TX USA 11/10/98
167.  Laura, Southlake, TX 11/11/98
168.  Janie, Plano, TX 11/11/98
169, Harold, Mesquite, TX 11/14/98
170, Martha, Rowlett, TX 11/14/98 Go with God.
171.  Robert, Nashport, OH 11/14/98
172.  Scott Nicodemus, Covington, Ohio,
173.  Glen Foutz, Piqua , Ohio - GO BROWNS IN !!
174.  Debbie, Sheffield Village Ohio ,11/15,98.  This has been
175.  Pam Bless Whiteland, IN 11/15/98 Too neat!!!!
176.  Jean - Phoenix, Arizona 11/15/98 Chilly?  C'Mon down!!!  80degrees 
today!
177.  Kathy Shea - Gilbert, Arizona, 11/16/98 --
178.  Mary Lynn D'Aubin...Scottsdale AZ...12/1/98 where do we go from here?!
179.  Bonnie & the Labradors, Binghamton, NY 12-1-98...
180.  Barb, Snohomish, WA, USA, 12/1/98
182.  Gayle, Renton, WA 12/3/98
183.  Laurel, Vancouver,WA 12/3/98 -
184.  Beccy and Shawn, Seoul, Korea (formerly Kent, Wa), 12/4/98
185.  Thomas Amador, Kent, WA 12/4/98
186.  Jeff "Jefe" Turner, Capitol Hill, Seattle 12/4/98
187.  Pip, Darwin, Australia, 5 December 1998.
188.  Janette, Sydney, Australia, 5/12/98
189.  Jim, Blue Springs,Mo.  12/6/98
190.  Rhonda, Denver Colorado, 12/6/98 Happy Holidays everyone, and GO 
BRONCOS!!
191 Mick Gadd Canterbury, England, United Kingdom
192.  Sue C, Devon, England
193.  Betty Fitz.  Springfield, Massachusetts, USA
194.  Jess Hafer - Longmeadow MA USA
195.  Timothea, Florence, South Carolina
196.  Al, White Rock, South Carolina 12/9/98
197.  Christine, Columbia, South Carolina 12/9/98
198.  DJ3 - Florence, SC 12-13-98
199.  Jenn-Florence, South Carolina GO Gamecocks and Go Buffalo Bills
200.  Tom, Brussels Belgium Merry Christmas !  !  !  !  !  !  !  !  !
201.  Blithe and Bill, Henniker, NH and
202.  Wanda Wood, Keene, New Hampshire
203.  Alex Galbraith, Inverkip, Scotland 27/12/98
204.  Peter Wilson, Greenock, Scotland 27/12/98
205.  Stuart Edwards Nr Newport in good old South Wales.  U.K
206.  Clive Billson.  28th December, Nottingham UK.  Happy New Year!
207 George - Happy New Year to all!  Long Beach, NY USA 28Dec98
208 The Carter Family-Count down to the new Millenium!  LB,NY 12-28-98
209.  Ellen :), Long Beach, NY - 28 December 1998 - Happy New Year!!!
210.  Sharon, Jeff & Spacey, Brooklyn, NY - 29 Dec 1998 - HaPpY nEw YeAr!!
211.  Jen Crivello - Milwaukee, WI - January 4, 1999
212.  Lesa - Milwaukee, WI - January 4, 1999
213.  T.J.  - Baltimore, MD - 1/4/99 "that's my old dorm # at Penn St!"
214.  Lynda & Steve, Pittsburgh, PA - January 8, 1999
215.  Ernie/Tuna/Skunk/Bat/Brillo/C & B, Pittsburgh, PA - Jan16,1999
216.  Stephanie, North Hollywood, CA - January 16, 1999
217.  Mark, Nancy, Rebeccah, Hannah, and Benjamin- Newburgh, IN 
-January23,1999
218.  Rob , Pittsburg, CA - 01/24/99 (Go Niners in 99!!!)
219.  Michelle, Pittsburgh, Pa.  01/25/99
220.  Michael & Sole, WA 01/25/99 Hopes it comes back to US
221.  Mike & Sue, Syracuse NY 01/25/99
222.  Joan ~ Long Island, NY ~ 01/25/99
223.  Alene; Grandview, MO; Jan.  27, 1999 (Wow!  This list's been around)
224.  RICHARD--- WHITELAKE, MI----1-27-98
225.  Shari - Waterford, MI - 01/27/99
226.  Brett - Clinton Township, Detroit, MI - 01/28/99
227.  Theresa, Hamtramck, MI- 01/28/99
228.  Barbara Kamin and Family, Suisun City, California 01/29/99 (GO 49rs)
229.  Jen and Ray Prentice& family, Ft Worth, TX (Go Broncos)1-30-99
230.  Steve Helms and family, Lake Dallas TX 1/31/99
231.  Kim and Family, Ft.  Worth, TX (Nascar Rules) 1/31/99
232.  Mike - Broken Arrow, OK01/31/1999
233.  Peter-Ft.Lauderdale,Fl.  2/4/99
244.  Tracy- Lebanon, Pa.  2/4/99 (near Hershey, i.e.  chocolate!)
255.  Wendy Wiggins, Madera, CA 2/4/99 (Acts 2:38)
256.  Shelley, Viola, IL 2/4/99
257.  Jenn, Madison WI 2/5/99
258.  Dirk, Chicago IL 2/6/99
259.  Mike S.  D.  C.  New Jersey 2/8/99
260.  Joyce, East Moline, IL 2/9/99
261.  LoraLe W., RockIsland, IL, QCA, USA 2/10/99 To a new year!
262.  Bonita - St.  Louis, MO 02/22/99
263.  Sylvie - KC, MO 2/22/99
264.  Karen Ward - Grandview, MO 2/22/99: Holy Cow, this is great!  Send it 
on everybody!  I love you guys!
265.  Jon Waynick - Kansas City, MO 2/22/99 Go Jayhawks!
266.  John K.  - Kansas City 2/22/99 It is snowing here right now!!!
267.  Jason Holmes - Kansas City, KS Feb.  22, 1999.  Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
268.  Shannyn Wilcoxson - Mission, KS 2/22/99.  Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
269.  Jessica Burton-This thing has been everywhere!-Groveland, MA 2/25/99
270.  Amanda C.  ---- Topsfield, MA --- 2/25/99 ---- i'm number 270!! Go me!
271.  Earl S ~ Pittsburgh, PA ~ 2/25/99~ I can't believe this e-mail!
272.  Adrienne L.  ---Pittsburgh, PA---2/25/99---
273.  Carol Lafferty - Tillotson, Pukalani, Maui, Hawaii ALOHA:)
274.  Clee, Sewickley,PA 2/27/99 | : )Wonder where it will be by 1/1/2000?
275.  Valerie, Wesel, Germany 3/15/99 pretty cool where this mail has been. I 
think it needs to go around Europe some more!
276.  Meike, Aachen, Germany, 16 May 1999 -- it's my birthday in a month!!!
277.  Rosa, Braunschweig, Germany, 3/17/99 - this really is pretty cool...
278.  Ruth, Braunschweig, Germany, 3/17/1999 - wow - I like this idea
279.  Sandra Julia, Braunschweig, Germany, March 17.  1999
280.  Bondi Mac Farlane, Cleveland, Ohio.  3/17/99
281.  Zoe-Joy, Munich, Germany.  3/19/99 Greeting to everyone
282.  Rochelle Hagenah, Minneapolis,MN 3/19/99- wish I could travel with this
283.  Maryann, Rochester, MN 3/19/99
284.  Kevin Lepard, Kalamazoo, MI 19-March-1999 2
285.  David Paul, Sturgis, MI 3/19/99.
286.  David and Sarah Bainbridge, LaGrange, IN, U.S.A.  3/26/99.
287.  Lady 'Kelly' Cro, Someplace Golden, U.S.A.  - March 27, 1999 -
288.  Alessandro Concas - Tampa, Florida, ma sono ITALIANO!  CIAO,MONDO!
289.  Sirenna Brown - Lake Forest, CA via TEXAS 3/27/99
290.  Freddie C-Laguna Hills, CA 3/29/99 (Forever a Texan)
291.  Joan M Dayton OH 3/29/99 Go Browns!!!!
292.  Sue Johnson, Huntington Beach, CA 3/29/99 (A Connecticut Yankee)
293.  Lydia, Huntington Bch, Ca.  4/8/99 over & out, roger wilco
294.  Karen, Laguna Hills, CA 4/8/99 ^..^
295.  Jeff - Rancho Santa Margarita, CA - 4/9/99
296.  Patty- Long Beach, CA 4/9/99
297.  Jim Knell-Sunnyvale -Northern CA.  9-Apr-99
298.  Lauren Wong-San Francisco, CA.  4-9-99 Temporarily living in Portland OR
299.  Jenny Egger: Portland, OR 4-9-99 GO COUGS!!!!!  :)
300.  Wendy Crum: Portland, OR 4-12-99 GO HUSKIES!!!!!
301.  Linda - Spokane, WA, 12, April, 1999: HAPPY SPRING!  We are proud
302.  Chris & Jim - cheney WA, 13, April 1999.
303.  Lloyd & Pam, Aztec, NM but full time RV's so we are all over.
304.  Vickie & David Robinson, Aztec NM 5-7-99 Looked at my email late
305.  Karen Rosano, Uvalde, Texas 5-8-99
306.  Melinda Weaver, Shelbyville, Indiana 5/9/99 Happy Mother's Day!
307.  Mary Buhler - Rushville, Indiana
308.  Doug Williamson Rapid City, SD
309.  Corinna Carlson - Rapid City, SD
310.  Bora Ban- COFC- go Cougars!!!!  Charleston, SC
311.  Elizabeth Boyette-Augusta, Georgia, USA ....  14 May 1999
312.  Shaun and Shaza-Lowestoft, England ,UK...15 May Are we There YET???
313.  Sarah-Bloomington, IN 15 May, 1999
314.  Stacie-Indianapolis, IN 16 May, 1999
315.  Laura-Indianapolis, IN, May 16, 1999, This is pretty cool.
316.  Beth-Indianapolis, IN May 16, 1999.  i hope it gets back to me!!!!
317.  Joy S.
318.  Nicholas P.  Durante/Knoxville TN.
319.  B Mathis / Knoxville, Tn
320.  Terry, Gatlinburg-Pigeon Forge TN.
321.  carrie.richards@cardhealth.com / May 21, 1999 / Maryville, TN
322.  Lisa - Knoxville, TN, May 21, 1999/ Gyplr@aol.com
323.  Martha - Tampa, FL
324.  Hilarie - Seattle, Washington, USA / June 3, 1999 / HELLO WORLD!!!
325.  Andi - Seattle, Washington USA 6/4/99Go Cougs!  Go Mariners!
326.  Jennifer-Long Beach, California USA 6/4/99
327.  Jaime Antrobus and Chris Alexander- Sacramento, CA USA 6/9/99.
328.  Mary - Sanford, NC 6/10/99
329.  Tammy - Wilmington, NC 6/10/99
330.  Shannon - Pittsboro, NC 6/10/99
331.  Candi - Hillsboro, NC 6/10/99
333.  Schlabach, burlington, nc, usa 6-14-99 - got milk?
334.  libby, Chapel Hill, NC 06/15/99
335.  Rebecca, Raleigh NC 06/15/99 On your mark, get set, GO!
336.  James - Raleigh NC, USA, 06/15/99
337.  Tracy-N.  Bonneville, WA, USA, Western Hempisphere, Earth,
338.  Jason - Lorain, OH, USA 08-04-1999
339.Jackie-Star City, WV, USA Aug.4th, 1999 Hope to see ya soon!!!!340.
Donna - Morgantown, WV
341.  Amanda- Morgantown, WV -
342.  Crystal ~Morgantown, WV~Aug.7th, 1999 BD~ 12/3/83~Keep it going people!~
343.  Ginny - Columbus, Ohio 8/8/99
344.  Sharon - Lehigh Acres, FL 8/8/99
345.  Paula, Lehigh Acres Fl 8/10/99 This is COOL Pass it.....
346.  Bonnie, Clearfield, PA (gee, do I have to admit that?) 8/10/99
347.  Von , Philipsburg, PA ( lets see how fast we can get this thing back)
348.  April, Pa.  Keep it going.  Enjoy life!  8-12-99 :-)
349.  Victor, Los Angeles, CA ( Have a nice day!  )vlider417@hotmail.com 
8/12/99
350.  Maria, Varberg, Sweden, mblyh@hotmail.com, 990816
351.  Annika, Knivsta, Sweden 17/8/99
352.  Paula, Buenos Aires, Argentina 18/8/99
353.  Natalia Maidana,Argentina, naelma@yahoo.com 08/19/99.
354.  Linn=E9a Hult=E9n, Haninge, Sweden 08/20/1999 - hey!  cool to be a
355.  Katy Blay, Basingstoke, England 23/8/99
356.  Sonia , Huddersfield, England 23/08/99
357.  Belinda ~ Huddersfield ~ England 23/08/99 =20
358.  Nicky ~ Surrey ~ England ~ 23/08/99 ~ all this has taken 1 year
359.  Rich ~ sussex ~ england 23/08/99 ~ Hey!
360.  Andrew Henderson ~ Philadelphia Pennsylavnia USA ~ 08-23-99
370.  Pam-Quakertown, PA, USA 8/23/99
371.  Don - Bluefield WV ( Natures air condition city)
372.  Bob - Princeton, WV - 08/23/1999
373.  Bobby - Macedonia, OH - 08/24/99 GO BROWNS
374.  Fred - Wichita Falls, Tx - 8/24/99- A Cowboy Fan
375.  Cindy,Chuck,Christine,Cherilyn, Cincinnati, OH - 8/24/99...NASCAR 
Rules!!
376.  Debbie and Kacie, Cincinnati, OH - 8/24/99
377.  Theresa,Patrick, and Emma Indian Lake,Ohio-8/24/99
378.  Anastasia, Nathan, and Sierra Howe ~ 8/24/99 Springvale, Maine,USA I 
think we're the first in Maine!!!
379.  Marnie Ogden Utah USA 8-24-99
380.  Janet, Hill Air Force Base, Utah USA 8-24-99 ~ 'round & 'round it goes, 
where it'll stop, no one knows!  :-)
381.  Sonya, Atherton, QLD, Australia
382.  Ginny, Ramsbottom ;0), England, 28th August, 1999.
383.  Mary Kay, Lake Charles, Louisiana August 28, 1999
384.  Chris, Sun Prairie, WI 9/2/99
385.  Slickersam, Peoria, Illinois 9/7/99
386.  Tony, Berwyn(Chicago suburb),Illinois 09/07/99
387.  Annette, Oak Park, Illinois, 9/8/99; we're all connected, including the 
animals!  White light to all!
388.  Pat,Bandera, TX 9/8/99 - fascinating - unbelievable how many people get 
these messages!!
389.  Lisa, Park Ridge, IL 9/9/99 - E-mail tag!!  You're it!!
390.  Joyce, Chicago, IL 9/14/99
391.  Ann, Chicago, Illinois 9/14/99 -- Fun to be a part of this!  Carry on!
392.  Sherry, Bellevue, WA 9/15/99 - Only chain I've never broken!  Over a 
year of e-mail!
393.  Zeltar, Bothell WA 9/16/99 - Fun - Go Mariners' 2000!
394.  Susan, Spokane, WA.  9/21/99 Amazing
395.  Vance and Mabel Spokane, Washington, USA.  10/7/99
396.  Sereta, Escondido, California, USA 10/12/99 Wonderfully amazing! 
97.Jeff,San Diego, Ca 10/12/99
398.  Mike El Cajon, Ca 10/12/99
399.  Kara, San Marcos, Ca 10/12/99
400.  MATT, ESCONDIDO, CA 10/12/99 YEAH BABY...  # 400 WOOHOO
401.  Fei, Escondido, CA 10/13/99 All I have to say is WOW!!!
402.  Quynh-An, Escondido, CA 10/13/99 "This is SO freakin awesome!"
403.  Adelle, La Jolla, CA 10/14/99, cute cute :)
404.  Michelle, La Jolla, CA October 14,1999
405.  Cari, Berkeley, CA October 14, 1999- #405 very impressive!!!! Ja!Ja!Ja! 
:)
406.  Ken & Rendy, Bakersfield, CA, 10/15/99
407.  Noe, Sonja & Sara, Bakersfield, CA 10/16/99
408.  Greg, Nori, Rachel & Hannah --- Bakersfield, CA October 18,1999(They 
say what goes around comes around!)
409.  Bruce, Cynthia & Nicole Ward--- Bakersfield, Ca10/19/99
410.  Linda Rowe, Lebec, Ca.  10/19/99 Opossums have feelings too.
411.  Madi, Arlington, VA.  10/20/99 Keep the faith!
412.  Carmie, Falls Church, VA 10/20/99
413.  Gail, McLean, VA 10/20/99 - Should be interesting.
414.  Keri, Kansas City, MO, 10/20/99
415.  Joni, Kansas City, KS, 0/20/99
416.  Deb, Hoyt, KS 10/21/99.  Go Hawks!!
417.  JoAnne, Rossville, KS 10-21-99.  KSU CATS!!!!
418.  Nancy, Washington, MO 10/22/99 MISSOURAH!
419.  Carol, Birmingham, AL 11/08/99
420.  Pat, Birmingham AL 10 Nov 99 ---------- Roll Tide!!!
421.  Henry (BigH), Birmingham, AL 10 Nov 99 +++ Grace and Peace to you in 
the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!
422.  Terri & Randy, Hurricane, WV 11/11/99 The Prince of Peace is Near!!!
423.Yolanda, Calif.11/11/99 THANK YOU VETERANS.GOOD JOB!!!  -NEXT-
424.  Mark & Wezi.11/11/99 Waterville, Maine.Great idea.  I guess we're 
Maine's 2nd.
425.Teresa 11/11/99 Waterville ME Hey! A chain that, if broken, won't result 
in eternal damnation in the fires of hellWay cool!
426.  Paula 11/13/99 Norridgewock, Me.  USA Greetings and salutations!!
427.  Nancy 11/13/99 Lehigh Acres, Fl.  Hello From Sunny Florida!!
428 Judy 11/13/99 LaBelle, Fl.  Warm up, where ever you are!  :-)
429.  Brian (ReRun) 11/14/99 Fort Wayne, Indiana..Every New AdditionPlease 
add brianmwood@netzero.net to your list of cc:
430.  John 11/16/99 West Lafayette, IN USA
431.  David and Jennifer Koopmans, Travis Afb/Fairfield, Ca 11/16/99
432.  Shelly K., Fairfield, CA ll/16/99
433.  Bob and Carole--Garden Valley Ca.  lets keep it going
434.  Charli B, Danville, CA -11/17/99 Happy Holidays!
435.  Kellie & Jason Workman, Omaha, Nebraska-11/18/99
436.  Kristi, Vallejo, CA, 11/19/99 God bless you this holiday season and 
always!
437.  Alix, Vallejo, CA, 11/22/99 I wonder if any of us are related.
436.  Dolly, Vallejo,CA,11/23/99 Wow i'm # 436!!!!!!!!!!  Hi alix
439.  Danielle.  Vallejo, CA, 11/25/99 Hi Dolly!  Happy Thanksgiving!!
440.  Jason, Vallejo, CA 11-25-99 Hey Danielle.  Everyone stay safe.
441.  Kevin, Vallejo,CA 11-26-99 Happy Thanksgiving...Hi April : )
442. April, Vallejo, CA 11-27-99 Hey Kevin, 
diane,nina,mommy,alison,Shayla,Trang,Mylene,Geneve,Daila and Gina.buh-bye
443.  yo MoMmiE!!!...  hi ApRiL and everyone blablabla...  laate (fr3eklykme)
444. MyLeNe...  VaLlEjO cAli...  11/27/99...  SuP aPiE!!  uMmM...  aNd 
CaCa...  CGs...  LX...  mOoNkEe
445.  cAt cAt benicia cA...11/29/99....sup sup to all them cOOl people
446.  Mel Mel...  Vallejo, California...  11-29-99...  God Bless & I Love 
Keilan
447.  KeLLy...SaN FRaNCiScO CA...  11-29-99.....
448.  EL...Vallejo, California 12/2/99
449.  Abby T-Vallejo, Ca 12/04/99..
450.  Kayla D-Vallejo, Ca 12/04/99 "I'm in 1st grade!!"
451.  Matt D-Vallejo, Ca 12/04/99 "GO, GO POWER RANGERS."
452.  MANNY-Fairfield, CALIFORNIA 12/5/99 "To Serve and Protect"
453.  Frank, Benicia, Ca 94510, 12/05/99, "Live long and prosper"
454 .  rudy, san jose, ca 95131, 7 Dec 99 'courage and drive'
455.Peter,in 
Hollister,CA.BeOpenToAllOfYourPotentialsPotentialscanbeMiraclesAlwaysBelieveIn
Miracles. 12/08/99
456.  Dave in Aptos CA 12/08/99 Be bold enough to ask for what you want. God 
Bless all
457 Steve, Boulder Creek CA 12/09/99 ...  have a great new millenium...... 
keep it going.....
458 Stacy Johnson Mestre, Dutch Harbor, Alaska ...
459 Jade Brink, Vail CO 15 December 1999 and closing...
460.  Holly S., Lafayette, IN 8 Feb 2000 Enjoy life to it's fullest! Please 
cc: me every 100 or so to L8butworthit@hotmail.com
461.  Rhonda and Steve Crombie.  Ohio.  09 Feb 00.  God bless you all!!
462.  Joey and Cheryl Klepacz from PA.  February 9, 2000.....  Amen !!!
463.  Kasha Mulhollan, Harrisburg, PA.  02/10/2000 ...
464.  Dave Mulhollan, Etters, PA.  .......Amazing 02/12/2000
465.  Leany Baer, York, Pa........02/14/2000
466.  Herm503, Etters.........02/15/2000
467.  Marg....Florida.........02/14/2000
468. Samantha....Florida.......02/15/2000
469.  Gloria...Sioux Falls, So. Dak.....02/18/2000
470. Dave...Tampa, Florida....02/19/2000*** Wow this has been all over,keep 
it up. (SDakota45@aol.com)
471.  Layne...Pukwana, South Dakota...02/19/00  (Good times, fun)
472.  Elaine, Lake Norden, South Dakota  2/19/00then therewas email. _
473. Chris, Garden City, South DakotaThis is wonderfulKeep it going please
474. Peggy, Garden City, South Dakota 2/21/00
475. Brooke, Triangle, Virginia, 2/21/00 
476. Erin Leckie, Minnesota... 
477. Tina Allen, Boynton Beach, FL and MN... 2/27/00
478. HilaryA.C,Mntka,Mn2/29/00~Learn what you can & teach what you know,dance 
hard & rave on! RESPECT! (djboobwack)

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> As for the high gas prices... they're still low compared to what you'll
pay
> in Europe, and my small car is pretty fuel-efficient. Heh, it serves the
> SUVers right. ;-P

    Hehe, yeah my Accord does well, and when I replace it with a Civic it'll
do better, but my dad in his AWD Mountaineer is really feeling the pinch...
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  They've discovered that in areas of intense pressure and great heat that
processes like oil formation and fossilization can take place in a matter
of a few hundred years, not hundreds of thousands like they've always said.
 Have you ever heard that we're in danger of running out of oil?  No you
haven't, because we're not.  OPEC pulled this shit in the late 70's and had
to stop due to the lessening of demand as well as economic sanctions
imposed against them by other countries.  This will happen again.  The rise
in prices has nothing to do with a lack of oil, it has to do with some rick
fuckers in the middle east that decided it's time to get richer.  But it is
somewhat temporary.  Regardless, the U.S., especially the midwest, does
have the cheapest gas in the world. 


At 04:16 PM 02/29/2000 -0500, Grant wrote:
>actually, there have been studies on depleted oil wells recently and
they've found
>that the oil is already being replentished in them.  this is in wells that
have
>gone dry just in the last 50 years or so.. i'll have to try and find where
i heard
>that lil tid-bit o information and post it up here, but alas i'm at work
right now
>and have some more programming to do at the moment.
>
>
>jes wrote:
>
>> as much as i am a broke ass that doesn't like paying a lot for gas,
>> there's part of me that doesn't mind the increase in prices lately. call
>> me crazy, but it might make a few people think about the fact that oil is
>> a nonrenewable resource, and we should be aware of how easily we waste it.
>> also, the usa has some of the cheapest gas prices in the world as a result
>> of rampant exploitation...i feel that we are in no condition to complain,
>> middle class white male. ;P
>>
>> dag!! i thought i stopped being political years ago!
>>
>> /me goes back to being apathetic
>>
>> /j
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, j.c. teeter wrote:
>>
>> > there may not be any secret "oil cartel "but,speaking as a relatively
>> > working middle class male,i am personally sick of paying the rediculous
>> > price of gas nowadays and if there was any reasonable way i or any one
else
>> > for that matter could do about it im sure it would be done .untill
more of a
>> > majority openly express their annoyance with the prices there is really
>> > nothing i or anyone else can do about it.
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It was GM and they discontinued production this year due to a lack of
demand.  It wasn't practical since a full charge only got you a hundred
miles max.




At 05:52 PM 02/29/2000 -0600, Jerome C. Austriaco II wrote:
>Well, at least one of the car manufacturers (I forgot which one) is coming
>out with a gas/electric hybrid car that gets about 80 miles per gallon.  
>OPEC sucks,
>Jerry
>
>___________________________________________________________________________
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>On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jon Gotti wrote:
>
>> In my opinion it is probably because the oil companies
>> are some of the biggest companies out their and have a
>> pretty big lobby.
>> Our economy would have a big change if alternative
>> fuels were put into major affect, therefore we keep
>> raping the earth in the usuall attempt to make dollars
>> and bills.
>> Kind of sad, seeing as a change to alternative fuels
>> has got to be inevitable since oil is not a renewable
>> resource.  Hell we already have the capability to
>> change to various other sources of fuel that are
>> renewable, but that would threaten those oil companies
>> and we cant have that can we.
>> Anyway, I guess im kind of a hipocrite though, seeing
>> as I own a car that runs on petrolium based gas, and I
>> do like to drive that fucker all over the place.  So
>> in the long run I guess I'm just as guilty as those
>> oil companies.  
>> signed 
>> Jon "waiting for the car of my dreams that runs off of
>> alchohol (beer or rum preferebly)" Gotti
>> 
>> --- Mikhail Khaimov <dj_tsar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > True...when you run out of shit, shit gets wack =)
>> > I *heart* gasoline =)
>> > BUT!
>> > I think the only reason we're not seeing much of
>> > alternative fuel out there is because we have
>> > shitpot
>> > of oil. Trust me, if large corporations saw a direct
>> > threat to their business because they would run out
>> > of
>> > natural resources, they'd be pumping billions of
>> > dollars into alternative fuel engines and such.
>> > Then again, who gives a shit. And didn't you know
>> > that
>> > I spin disco house now?
>> > 
>> > DJ
>> > Russiancommiepussytrancedjbitchwhonowspinsdiscohouse
>> > 
>> > P.S. Did I mention that I like horses?
>> > 
>> > --- pixie <pixie@bluegrass.net> wrote:
>> > > and not a bit of any of that matters when it runs
>> > > out. not trying to argue,
>> > > just saying.
>> > > 
>> > > you dirty republican russian commie pussy ass
>> > trance
>> > > dj
>> > > 
>> > > you really need to cut back some there...it's
>> > > starting to get a little out
>> > > of hand...can't you quit spinning trance or
>> > > something? ;]
>> > > 
>> > > pixie
>> > > 
>> > > 
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 00:35:56 2000
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Actually right now both Toyota and Honda produce
hybrid vehicles (Prius and Insight respectively). Well
technically, the Prius is not out yet (not until the
summer), but the fucker will be 66 mpg and can run 850
miles. *insert a toyota commercial here*

:)
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Ladies and gentlemen,

www.puresonikrecords.net is ready for your kind consideration.

Feedback is appreciated. This is just the beginning; more features to come.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 01:15:55 2000
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At Tuesday, 29 February 2000, you wrote:

>Participate in this and let's see what happens.
--
i'll tell you what happens: it fucking irritates me.

it's in very poor taste and bad protocol to post email chain letters 
to a public mailing list. send this shit to your personnal friends.
better yet, don't perpetuate chain letters because they contribute 
to needless data transmission and waste bandwidth which is scarce 
in the first place. use the internet, don't abuse it.

grrrr
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 01:31:04 2000
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::MeOW!:: this kitten has found a light at the end of the tunnel...I will be 
returning to my beloved Cincinnati for the summer. Once I graduate, it's out 
of Lexington and back to the 'Nati until moving to Madison in August. Thank 
heavens.

By the way, I know it's crazy early, but does anyone have any information on 
fourth of July celebrations? The fourth is on a Tuesday this year, so it's a 
good year to travel.

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okay i didn't realize you people would get soo pissed off....i just sent it 
to the list bcasue i thought soem people would be interested in seeing if 
they knew a few people on there....it's been around the world soomany times 
in the past 2 years....an i thought it was different..never gotten anything 
like this before an i wanted to share it with everyone else that was around 
me...hopeing they would find people the know... i am sorry if i screwed up 
but you shouldn't post on the list how pissed you are for me doin this...you 
shold have privatly emailed me...i think thats kind of 
ignorant...personally...i mean it was a honest mistake an i know not to do it 
again...an i am unsub cause you guys rather talk aobut drama an read one word 
emails that fill up someones inboxes about a certain subject...an then get 
mad for something someone did cause they were being nice to share with 
others....if you have any other problems please email me privately.....people 
don't want to read shit about other poeple..

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What do you mean by hybrid?  850 miles, no shit.  What does it cost?


At 04:35 PM 02/29/2000 -0800, Mikhail Khaimov wrote:
>
>Actually right now both Toyota and Honda produce
>hybrid vehicles (Prius and Insight respectively). Well
>technically, the Prius is not out yet (not until the
>summer), but the fucker will be 66 mpg and can run 850
>miles. *insert a toyota commercial here*
>
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>i am sorry if i screwed up
>but you shouldn't post on the list how pissed you are for me doin this...you
>shold have privatly emailed me...i think thats kind of
>ignorant...personally...i mean it was a honest mistake an i know not to do it
>again...an i am unsub cause you guys rather talk aobut drama an read one word
>emails that fill up someones inboxes about a certain subject...an then get
>mad for something someone did cause they were being nice to share with
>others....
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screwing up is fine. it teaches you things. don't sweat it. that 
which does not kill you should make you stronger.

i posted to the list to reiterate what the general view of chain 
letters is in case there were any more on the way.

works like this:

   A: they see your post, they see no reply, they decide to post a 
chain letter as well.
    or
   B: they see your post, they read my reply, they learn at the same 
time you do.

as you can see, B makes more sense. sorry for being harsh. i'm just a 
jerk in the first place.

and actually, i'd rather not read one-liner posts or drama posts. 
there alot of others on here that feel the same way. so, it's not 
really fair to us to say that we condone or enjoy such material. then 
again, it's not a fair world, so fuck it.

if you want to unsub, so be it. god knows i have like 6 times in the 
past year. you'll be back though...no one can stay away from the list 
for very long. ***evil laugh***

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> What do you mean by hybrid?  850 miles, no shit.  What does it cost?

    Electric with a 1L gasoline engine to give it a little boost when it
needs it. Regenerative braking, lithium-ion-nickel-hydride-cadmium battery,
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>anyone who's familiar with the club scene in cincinnati help me out here.
>if you were gonna bring a live band to cincy that would draw 300-400 ppl,
>what club would you use?

 Preferably one in another city. Outside Ohio, if possible.

Sorry couldn't resist.

  Top Cat's is a dive & serves shitty drinks, but may be your best bet. Too bad Ripley's is gone..
Anyone know what's goin in there?  I heard a rumour it was turning into a Deveroe's..

<some thuggish clothing store for any non-cinci ppl bored enough to read  this. get your tommy
hil, get your fubu.>

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In a message dated 2/29/2000 9:52:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
te_one@yahoo.com writes:

<< Ripley's is gone..
 Anyone know what's goin in there?  I heard a rumour it was turning into a 
Deveroe's..
  >>

actually.....I'm 95% sure that its a Starbucks...a friend of mine works at 
one and said that her boss said thats what's going in there....which backs up 
the our theory that some day, AOL and Starbucks will control the world.....

Big Brother Keppin Ya Caffeinated
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In a message dated 2/29/0 10:12:31 PM, gsparker wrote:

<<denied & overruled...>>

lol, going along with his typical superiority complex,
the great gregori deems himself judge & jury...how
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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 03:21:58 2000
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Well I've learned a lot. Next car I get is gonna be a hybrid of one kind or 
another. 

As far as the new oil thing, we just gotta look back to the scientific 
revoloution. Back then everyone thought they were so smart and knew so much 
about the universe because "Aristotle said this." Well we have to quit 
believing the 70s statistics. Galileo said that "any man with an open mind 
can be his own guide to the universe" so we just need to study the facts from 
TODAY. Believe me, in the 70s they said that the world would be overpopulated 
to the point that each human being would have three-feet of elbow-room. Well 
AIDs and cancer and all the other diseases that increased decreased our 
population. If we've learned anything its that the earth is one tough bitch. 
But I do agree that we should take care of it. And the oil companies should 
start to switch their production from oil to some other resource.

Now someone said that the midwest has the lowest gas prices. It's $1.75 per 
gallon here last time I checked. What's it like everywhere else?

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<< By the way, I know it's crazy early, but does anyone have any information 
on 
fourth of July celebrations? The fourth is on a Tuesday this year, so it's a 
good year to travel. >>

jason translucent is planning some three day festival the second or third 
weekend of july in indy...

thats about all i know within range for right now

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 03:24:00 2000
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Hmm... anyone else planning on going to see lil louie vega thursday? at
electra?? (which is by far the best club in cincy (that I have been to).


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At 09:55 PM 2/29/00 EST, OLeSkL@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 2/29/2000 9:52:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>te_one@yahoo.com writes:
>
><< Ripley's is gone..
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>Deveroe's..
>  >>
>
>actually.....I'm 95% sure that its a Starbucks...a friend of mine works at 
>one and said that her boss said thats what's going in there....which backs
up 
>the our theory that some day, AOL and Starbucks will control the world.....
>
>Big Brother Keppin Ya Caffeinated
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Okay, I always thought that G just had alcohol-like effects, why is everyone 
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In a message dated 3/1/0 12:09:55 AM, krobbins wrote:

<<Your anti-social and you spend most of your existence 
arguing with people, complaining, and trying to prove your 
worth to people who really don't give a fuck.  Lighten up a little>>

excuse me?...you have no idea how i live...and i do not
spend most of my existence arguing with people...your
conception of me is so far off it's not even funny, for
the most part i'm a very silent guy in real life...i've
taken alot of shit in my life, but now i'm getting used
to it...i fully realize that we live in a very unfair world
and for the most part people don't give a shit...but when
that apathy & that ignorance spreads into the scene i
helped created for the very reason of transcending race,
sexual orientation, and financial barriers...it truly irks me

and until kids see what's really going on, i'll continue 
skoolin 'em...

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I know you are, but what am I??


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Anyone ever considered riding a bike? It is an economically superior and 
healthier alternative to driving your lazy ass around. Another factor to 
place in mind, is that all of this driving creates burning fuel. This 
pollution goes on all the live long day and is destroying our environment. 
When we all cannot breathe there will no one left to bitch about high gas 
prices.
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In a message dated 2/29/0 9:23:35 PM, doris wrote:

<<hey now.  that's no way to talk to your porn*star roomiez!>>

hey you think it's easy to live with porn*starz?

i gotta work all day, while they get to f*k all day!


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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 04:20:25 2000
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> Anyone ever considered riding a bike? It is an economically superior and 
> healthier alternative to driving your lazy ass around. Another factor to 


<drives her bike to the next konfused meet>

right. i walk all week and leave my car parked for the most part or ride
the bus around campus. but i go far. fuck a bike. if you are still worried
about the environment, think about all the rusty bikes and tires that go
into landfills or something. whatever. i dont care. gas prices suck when
you dont have a lot of money. the people making the gas prices higher can
afford to spend the money.  i cant exactly ride my bike to chicago or
detroit or even to indianapolis. well i guess i would have to get a bike
to ride one anywhere.  walking rocks. (except here cuz you will get run
over by idiots on bicycles who insist on driving on the
sidewalks...scary).

save the world. kill yourself.
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In a message dated 3/1/0 3:49:10 AM, man_in_black00 wrote:

<<I know you are, but what am I??>>

oh sheesh, did gregori and doris get new accounts?...how childish.

...i am...you are me...until you understand...

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 04:38:47 2000
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Oi.  Some people just don't get it.  *EVERY GODDAMN POST* on this list has a
link to the FAQ at the bottom of it.

Some morons quote 4 posts worth of text without ever snipping in their
replies...  in those messages, there are 4 links to the damn thing.

It specifically states, and I quote: "Please DO NOT post virus warnings, chain
letters, or requests for
copywrited software to the list."

But.  So much for that.  Anyways.  One contextual note below...


----- Original Message -----
From: <CLubKidMN@aol.com>
To: <mw-raves@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 8:06 PM
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> but you shouldn't post on the list how pissed you are for me doin this...you
> shold have privatly emailed me...i think thats kind of

No.  He should have made ever attempt to humiliate you on the list, so all the
other listmembers will realize what happens when you send crap like this to a
list full of cynical jaded ravers.
*snip*
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Luke Rider
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> ignorant...personally...i mean it was a honest mistake an i know not to do
it
> again...an i am unsub cause you guys rather talk aobut drama an read one
word
> emails that fill up someones inboxes about a certain subject...an then get
> mad for something someone did cause they were being nice to share with
> others....if you have any other problems please email me
privately.....people
> don't want to read shit about other poeple..
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In a message dated 2/29/00 10:39:15 PM Central Standard Time, 
zaphod@spacestar.net writes:

<< 
 No.  He should have made ever attempt to humiliate you on the list, 
EVERY?  (Grin)

so all the
 other listmembers will realize what happens when you send crap like this to a
crap to crap...funny how that works, eh?

 list full of cynical jaded ravers.
isn't that quite the redundant statement?  (evil grin)


 *snip*
 Luke Rider >>

I love the list.  It makes my face glow.
suzi/s00zi

yeah...that means you too buddy!


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ClubKidMN, do you live in MN? obviously.. he hee. whre in MN?

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"lauryn g." wrote:

> > Anyone ever considered riding a bike? It is an economically superior and
> > healthier alternative to driving your lazy ass around. Another factor to
>
> <drives her bike to the next konfused meet>

why don't we all strap bombs to our chests and ride our bikes to the next G7
picnic?
seems easier with every clock tick...

one love

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what nrr?

;]
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>From: Steviet069@aol.com
>Reply-To: Steviet069@aol.com
>To: mw-raves@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:35:46 EST
>
>
>In a message dated 3/1/0 3:49:10 AM, man_in_black00 wrote:
>
><<I know you are, but what am I??>>
>
>oh sheesh, did gregori and doris get new accounts?...how childish.
>
>...i am...you are me...until you understand...
>
>"through him all things were made; without him nothing was
>made that has been made...in him was life...and that life was
>the light of men...the light shines in the darkness, but the
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sorry Mr. Tsang, but you've got it all wrong. I'm just here to prove your 
paranoia. As our files fill up with all of your transactions, moves, mail, 
and email, we will soon repress you even further than you can ever imagine.

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 06:27:48 2000
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>I rode the bus fer years, and I think its kinda cool.
>Every day you see examples of what not to do.
>And on your way to work or school thats really motivating.
>
>Try it
>
>  O  U  T  .  . . . ....  ......

i agree!  i have a bus pass!  the BUS cums every 60 minutes around here!  i 
know others who have also ridden the bus.

GET ON THE BUS!

the twin cities invasion continues....

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From mw-raves-owner-mw-raves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 01 06:30:43 2000
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many people say "man, OPEC sucks."

without OPEC, where would you get your oil?  drill your own, i suppose?

or buy from private tycoons, who would be involved in price wars jacking 
prices up much higher than you ever imagined?

it's easy to jump on the bandwagon, and just as easy to fall off.

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In a message dated 3/1/00 12:29:43 AM Central Standard Time, 
dica666@hotmail.com writes:

<< i agree!  i have a bus pass!  the BUS cums every 60 minutes around here!  
i 
 know others who have also ridden the bus.

Who?  Who do you know that has ridden the bus?  This weekend I saw 2 bus 
passes, but 0 drivers and passengers.    ;)
 
 GET ON THE BUS!

Hey!  That's my line!
 
 the twin cities invasion continues.... >>

oh boy.  i can't wait to move to Milwaukee.

Jen Sixtybus
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ICQ  45435450

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Subject: [mw] This Thrusday.. AURA
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AURA

Come hear the sounds of DJ BLACK SAUSAGE plus
a special guest every Thursday night at AURA.
AURA is a new club that has just opened in Lafayette,
Indiana.  It is an excellent venue, with a large dance
floor, pool tables, and a lounge.  The doors open at 10pm
and stay open until everyone is partyed out.  DJ
BLACK SAUSAGE is a very skilled classic house DJ that 
has recently moved from New York.  Each thursday will
contain BLACK SAUSAGE spinning house as well as many
other talented mid-west djs coming in to do trance and
jungle sets.  I will be there often to do some of my 
own trance sets.  To hear demos of my sets and more
information check out:

http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/~cphillip/chrisp.html

To get there..

Take I-65 to the US26 lafayette exit.
>From there take US26 west to downtown lafayette.
Take a right on N. 6th st.  It is at the club
'Mixerz.'  It is a few blocks down on the left.

Don't miss out on it. 

peace
dj chrisp






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    Did it occur to you that this is exactly the problem? All the cars you
just named account for a buttload of pollution and wasted gas, if the oil
companies wanted to they could invest some of their petty cash and make a
decent fuel cell or hybrid technology that would save us money, save the
earth some resources, save the air some pollution, and make it a heck of
alot cheaper to ship stevieT's dead body cross-country... UPS could afford
to hire alot more people if they didn't waste so much money on gas every
year. Stevie you know this officially makes you a biggot don't you? Quit
trying to keep the white man down. =]

    - Matt Murphy -
     murph@mr.net
     ICQ # 4383740

> typical self centered white male attitude...did you
> graduate from the gregori school of ignorance?
>
> um, did it ever occur to you that truck drivers and
> other workers that have to drive for a living may
> not share the same sentiment as you, since they
> are getting the same wages...yet, they have to pay
> more out of their pocket now...in fact, there was
> just a big news story about how alot of truckers
> are going out of business because of this...
>
> and this just doesn't effect truckers, it effects:
> taxi drivers, pizza deliverers, driving salesmen,
> anybody that has to drive a good distance to work!



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